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That's a very good idea. Let's just say, oh, poor Joe, clearly turbo cancer. That's the line we should take.
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Ignore all of the doubles, the masks and all of that, because that supports the truth.
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See, that way there's no incrimination other than the vaccine. It goes back to why.
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So whether it's true or not doesn't matter. Let's face it, they never got tied up with truth prior to this.
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There was no truth about the virus, the pathogenicity, the PCR test, anything.
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That didn't require any proof or any peer review testing.
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So what I would say is that that is what, well, that's what I'm pushing anyway.
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So now I'm getting a small amount of kickback, a pushback on the grounds that I'm a heartless bastard.
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But I accept that. That's been part of my life.
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We knew, that's right. So finally, the truth about Gerry Waters comes out.
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He's a heartless bastard, except when he's got patients who are paying for his services.
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Oh, absolutely. That changes everything. Yeah, that changes everything. Yeah. Okay.
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Thank you. So I had a, so I really liked that line.
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We'll just say to everybody, oh, that's turbo cancer at work and let them argue off, blah, blah.
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See, they both end in E-double-S, which is very appropriate.
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And today we've got Curtis Cost with Stephen Frost.
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When you meet Charles Covess face to face, you realize what a good looking, impressive man he is.
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I said that to Charles when I met you. I said you're much more impressive in the flesh than you are in a postage stamp.
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You're very kind, Gerry. Thank you. It was wonderful to be with you.
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I'm also a liar. I'm also a liar. Psychopathic liar.
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But many, in my experience, many women, when you give them a compliment, they go, no, I'm not. No, I'm not.
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I say, yes, you are. And I'm going to Berlin, Sebastian, unfortunately, on the 11th of June for the three day European Industrial Hemp Association Conference.
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So Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. So I'm flying there that day coming back on Saturday, the 14th of June.
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So quick. But there's the all of the all of the key people in hemp will be in Berlin.
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That also rhymes. Guys, I'm being a bit poetic today. All right, let's get this show on the road. Curtis, I will introduce you now.
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It's great to see you as usual. And I will do my intro. Just one second.
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And I've lost my my intro bit. This is a bit embarrassing. Just one second. Here it is. Beautiful.
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All right, everybody. Welcome to Medical Doctors for Covid Ethics International.
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In today's meeting, this community was ignited nearly four years ago by Dr. Stephen Frost, a Welsh radiologist with a passion for truth.
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I'm Charles Kovace, your moderator, and I'm Australasia's passionate provocateur in my red jacket, the color of passion to spark your passion and enthusiasm.
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After 20 years as a lawyer, I shifted gears 32 years ago.
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Today's guest, Curtis Cost, is a very, very early starter. He's just a second, [privacy contact redaction]e about the dangers of vaccines.
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So, Curtis, I'll come out in your thing, but that you are very enlightened amongst many people.
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And everyone, please read what you can about hemp. I've got something very important to share with you.
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after James Cook allegedly discovered it in 1770. And you will not believe that there are 34 references to hemp.
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This book absolutely confirms it. Original sources.
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England said we need a source of hemp because where was England getting its hemp, which was the basis on which it ran its whole navy.
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Where was the source of hemp coming from? Who knows?
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So I'll tell you more about that. But very exciting. So hemp is you play. Mark my words, everybody.
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At this time, we remember Ryan Ofulmik, German US lawyer who is languishing in jail from a political show trial.
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Anything that you can do to shine a light on the plight of Ryan Ofulmik, please do so.
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Our group is a dynamic blend of voices heading from corners of the globe, united in pursuit of truth.
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Many of us once viewed vaccines as benign.
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Now many wear the badges of passionate anti-vaxxers with pride, awakened to the new realities and the true realities.
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And let's connect. If you've got a podcast, book, newsletter or show, drop your links in the chat so we can amplify your work and stay connected.
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We're in the thick of a global struggle. We call it World War Three with medical and science battles among 12 battle fronts.
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Another battle front is the spiritual war in which we find ourselves.
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Five years into this fight with more to come, there's no room for wearyness. Stay strong, stay healthy.
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You come to this group to get clues on health.
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Science, we know, is never done. It thrives on challenge and inquiry.
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Some here believe in viruses, others see them as fiction and many are still exploring.
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We'll hear from our guest presenter today, Curtis Cost, who's now speaking to us for the third time, followed by Q&A.
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Per tradition, Stephen Frost opens the questioning for the first 15 minutes.
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If something offends you, own it.
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We choose love over fear.
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Fear binds and sickens. Love liberates, heals and inspires.
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These twice weekly gatherings are far from mere talk. They've birthed real world actions and alliances.
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Everybody, please use that term medical truth now.
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John Rappaport recommended it. We're using it in this group.
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Please use it. The more of us that talk about medical truth now, the better.
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Share solutions, products or resources in the chat to empower our community.
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We're thrilled to welcome our guest presenter, Curtis Cost, and we value his insights deeply for the purposes of the recording.
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I will now give a quick intro.
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The full intro is in the notes to the recording if you're watching the recording.
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So, Curtis, as I said for the third time, is speaking to us.
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We're most grateful.
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He's a BA from Vassar College as well as an MBA from Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern Uni.
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He's the author of the book Vaccines are Dangerous, a Warning to the Global Community.
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Well done. 34 years ago.
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Of course, we should be aware that in 1895, and somebody might have it ready, in 1895, there was an Anti-Vaccination League in America.
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Somewhere in my computer, I've got saved the fly that says, don't get vaccinated.
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The second edition was published in 2010.
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For over 30 years, Curtis Cost has been warning the public about the dangers of and ineffectiveness of vaccines.
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Curtis has been interviewed on national and local television and radio programs, including Tony Brown's journal, The Gary Bird Show, The Gary Null Show, and others.
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the COVID vaccine on trial, and COVID crisis National Town Hall Forum.
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Curtis is also one of the producers of the film Medical Racism, The New Apartheid.
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He sees quarantine camps as a threat not only to New York, but also the rest of America.
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and ultimately the country and medical freedoms, including your absolute right to bodily autonomy.
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Curtis will also put that in the chat.
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And today's topic, I won't go through the bits and the pieces.
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He's going to tell us about that, but it's about China's dramatic population decline.
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So, Curtis, welcome to Stephen Frost.
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Thank you for creating this group.
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I'd love to thank you. Delighted to see you in your red top, Stephen.
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It's very appropriate.
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And and Curtis, have you got Curtis's link?
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Say that again.
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Have you got the link to his video?
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I sent it to you.
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You didn't read the invitation that I said?
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Yes, I have. It's in the it's in the it's in the
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I'm ready.
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The that was in the invite and Curtis, I am a subscriber to your sub stack.
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I recommend everybody.
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And I did watch that that amazing video.
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So over to you, Curtis.
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Go Curtis.
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Thank you very much. It's an honor to be here.
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And the topic about the declining population trend in China is something I literally accidentally stumbled upon.
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I mean, major cities like Shanghai, Beijing were places that normally would be crowded with people on the streets and traffic and subways and buses empty.
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And it's a trend all over China.
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And then there was a theory that, well, maybe a lot of people decide to move into the countryside because it's less hectic, less expensive.
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But in the countryside, we see the exact same thing all over China.
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We see empty villages, towns, and only are they empty.
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Well, when I was looking at this, I knew that there was a missing piece and that missing piece is the potential deliberate murdering of the Chinese people by their own government.
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And as you'll see from the video, it's not my opinion.
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It's all documented and you draw your own conclusions.
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And even more shocking at the end of the presentation is a Chinese woman, background in finance and other things.
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I mean, I think it took me about a week to calm myself down and calm the grips because we're talking about the potential mass murder of [privacy contact redaction]e.
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If it's true, and everybody draws their own conclusions, it represents one of, if not the greatest, mass killing or mass genocide in human history.
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And so I think the whole world needs to look at this because this has implications, not just morally, but for us, since we have become very dependent on China for pharmaceutical products.
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I mean, it's a really good idea to be getting our pharmaceutical products from a country that may have engaged in this, especially the vaccines and their food.
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Is that what you now want to do? Play the video?
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Talking about all things, it reminds me of a wonderful limerick about Roger.
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And it goes like this.
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It goes like this.
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There once was a girl from Cape Cod who thought that all things came from God, but it wasn't the Almighty that lifted his nightie.
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I wasn't expecting to do this, Curtis, but I'm sure it will work because I've got the link here.
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I've got the link.
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As I say in the classics, we are in a good shape.
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We've got the share sound.
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As Curtis says, do your own thinking and let's do some collaborative learning on this video.
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it's a population collapse.
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One said,
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The desolation extends nationwide.
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Videos show abandoned homes fully furnished with TVs,
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clothes, and flashlights, yet untouched for years.
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In Hunan, travelers find pristine housing blocks
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filled with belongings but no residents.
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A local said,
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Everyone else has left.
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driven by years of lockdowns, economic hardship,
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and underreported deaths.
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and a rise in sudden deaths.
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A Luoyang resident said,
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Cemeteries are full of young names.
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A Beijing resident added,
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Kids keep getting sick.
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In Hebei, they stopped cremating.
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There are too many bodies.
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The eerie silence in its cities and villages
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one that's sparking concern about a hidden crisis.
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China's official claim of 1.[privacy contact redaction]e is under scrutiny.
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The eerie silence in its cities and villages
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one that's sparking concern about a hidden crisis.
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The eerie silence in its cities and villages
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one that's sparking concern about a hidden crisis.
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one that's sparking concern about a hidden crisis.
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one that's sparking concern about a hidden crisis.
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is under scrutiny.
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is under scrutiny.
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In Shanghai, China, the world's third largest city
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remains in lockdown.
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They're using bicycle locks and padlocks just to keep people in.
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CNN's David Culver says government workers
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sealed his front door to prevent him from leaving.
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He's using his front door to prevent him from leaving.
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keeping you from exiting, going to the food market?
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I can't go outside that door. There's a seal.
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If I do, physically I could do it, but I would break the seal
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and there's repercussions for that.
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known as big whites.
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Some citizens in the authoritarian nation are losing it,
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It's straight out of a dystopian sci-fi movie.
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We're starving.
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We're starving.
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We're starving.
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Let me go home.
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Let me go home.
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Let me go home.
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Let me go home.
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Screaming
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You can't go in.
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Police!
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Police!
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You better not fight, I'm going to record this.
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in Orumqi, which is in the Xinjiang region,
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There was footage that emerged from that which showed
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in Xinjiang.
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Whose child are you? Whose father are you?
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Don't you understand?
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which then spread to other cities around China.
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In Shanghai, in Beijing, in Nanjing, all over China really.
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They've been calling for an end to Covid policy,
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which seems to be their main gripe at the moment, their main demand.
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As well as more outrageous calls, which we haven't heard
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since 1989 back in Tiananmen Square.
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This is really, you know, incredible to see
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in an atmosphere like this.
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a country that once made use for setting up a Covid hospital
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in a few days, eight days to be precise in 2020,
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is now in use for developing makeshift cams
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and quarantine centers at lightning speed.
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And this too after three years of the outbreak.
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Take a look at how China is bracing for a Covid search,
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quarantine centers and site toilets, people being made to pay
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for these quarantine centers.
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If you think the Covid crackdown measures are brutal,
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then what do you feel about this?
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being treated worse than prisoners.
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in human living conditions in quarantine cams.
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in the capital city of Beijing.
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However, makeshift cams are coming up here as well.
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digitally through Covid passports.
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I want to go out! I want to go out!
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China has accelerated its free vaccination campaign
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since late March.
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It took only six days for total Japs to climb
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from 1.2 billion to 1.3 billion.
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The deputy head of China's National Health Commission
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has said by the end of this year,
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Surgeon hospital overcrowding and Sun Yan deaths
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linked to vaccine sequelae in China.
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Surgeon hospital overcrowding and Sun Yan deaths
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linked to vaccine sequelae in China.
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raising concerns among citizens about the long-term effects
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of the mandatory Covid-19 vaccination program
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many of which residents attribute to side effects
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from the vaccines enforced by the CCP.
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The current date, April 7, 2025,
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marks a critical moment as these claims gain traction,
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though official media and government sources remain silent on the issue.
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alarming accounts with NTD reporters,
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describing a pattern of deteriorating health following vaccination.
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Mr. Wang, a resident of Shuzhou in Jiangsu province,
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recounted the sudden deaths of colleagues, some as young as 50,
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attributing these conditions to the vaccine's side effects.
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Mr. Wang, who reluctantly took one shot under pressure
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the worse their health seemed to become.
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He also described long queues at funeral homes,
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a phenomenon he observed both at the height of the epidemic
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and again this winter, alongside a resurgence of what he believes
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is misdiagnosed COVID-19, often labeled as influenza by doctors.
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Similar sentiments echoed from Mr. Lu in Wuxi, Jiangsu,
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a severe lung condition, and heart disease among people
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in their 20s, 30s and 40s.
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he said, pointing to a media blackout
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In Inner Mongolia's Douluin County, Mr. Zhao highlighted
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to the mandatory vaccination campaign that spanned from early 2020
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to late 2022.
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After the shots, many couldn't handle heavy work anymore,
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he said, noting that acute, unusual diseases were striking
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the younger population.
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In Wuxi province, Mr. Zhang from Nanyang reported a consensus
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among neighbors and colleagues that the vaccine was to blame
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for the rising death toll, though hospital staff remained tight-lipped,
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Meanwhile, Mr. Minnan from Shenzhen described a cycle
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of worsening symptoms after each successive shot,
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leaving the professor in charging the school board
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as a matter of tid nggak,
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Hospitals are full, top-tier ones especially, with patients showing cold-like symptoms,
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white lungs, and nodules," he said.
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Mr. Gao linked the Sinovac vaccine to cases of myocardial and cerebral infarctions among
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his neighbors, expressing frustration at the lack of transparency surrounding these deaths.
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Well, I've discussed China's population in several programs and consistently said that
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it's absolutely not the official 1.4 billion and is no more than 100 million.
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And also, I don't want to come across as sensational by making unsubstantiated claims.
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That said, a number of viewers have written to me sharing their thoughts and information
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on the matter.
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China's real population is not anywhere near 100 million either.
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It's somewhere between 300 and 400 million.
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Yes, you heard that right.
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China's actual population may be only a fraction of the official 1.4 billion.
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I believe we need a two-step approach to estimate China's real population.
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In 2018, the Russian...
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There's no video.
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Hang on.
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...that China's actual population may be between 500 million and 800 million.
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A Russian expert noted that China's population in [privacy contact redaction] rule was 490
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Stop it.
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Curtis, start again.
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Yeah, I guess, I mean, not from the beginning, but wherever you...
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I don't know what's causing it.
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Whatever you can try, feel free.
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Okay, there it is.
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Right.
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...followed by decades under the one-child policy, it's impossible that China's population
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surged to 1.4 billion.
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Other Russian experts added up the publicly available urban population of every Chinese
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city and county and got only [privacy contact redaction]e.
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And based on the traditional urban-rural population ratio of one to one, they estimated China's
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actual population being around 560 million.
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Even considering China's unique circumstances, they say that the population should not exceed
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800 million.
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land and international grain purchases and concluded that China's real population was
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between 800 and 900 million.
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In my December 14th, 2024 program, which was cut based on my October 8th live stream,
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I showed you China's real population before the pandemic was between 695 million to 890
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million.
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It is that, well, 35 years ago, China and India's population was only [privacy contact redaction]e
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apart.
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In 1990, India had [privacy contact redaction]e while China had a population of 1.1 billion.
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In the next 30 years, India's fertility rate averaged three.
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Therefore, mathematically, it's impossible that India, a much younger country with a
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double the fertility, still has a smaller population than China does in a span of 30
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years.
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So using AI and official CCP fertility rate, I came up with 890 million Chinese population
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for the year 2020.
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However, if I use Dr. Yi Fu-hsien, a renowned expert on Chinese demographics, if I used
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his fertility rates, China's population in 2020 before the pandemic was only 695 million.
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So you see my calculation, the studies conducted by the Russians and the Japanese overwhelmingly
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point China's population before the pandemic at somewhere between 600 million and 800 million
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or 900 million.
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But it's around 800 million.
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And there's another expert who agrees with our number.
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A Chinese YouTuber by the name of Li Mu-yang, who has one million subscribers, disclosed
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0:44:33 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction] and March 8th programs information he received from one of his fans.
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This fan has been working for the WHO for decades and does data collection and analytic
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work.
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0:44:47 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]udying China's population for a while.
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And in 2020-2021, this fan of Mr. Li tried to repeat the Russian study by adding up all
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official population data at local levels.
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But he wasn't able to do so because many of the local governments had stopped releasing
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demographic data and some even fabricated the information.
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So he wasn't able to finish his study.
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But he concluded that China's population before the pandemic was 750 million.
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Do I agree with this number?
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Well, I think it's logical.
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0:45:24 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]imation of China's population before the pandemic, according to my AI model, was
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0:45:30 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction] 900 million.
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So I like to be conservative.
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I would say China's population before the pandemic was 800 million.
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All right.
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0:45:44 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]ion.
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0:45:46 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]e died from COVID?
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Now the person who works for WHO also did his estimates.
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And he said, and this is what he wrote, as of now, China's population is between 310
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to 320 million.
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He derived at this number based on his calculation of a 430 million COVID death toll.
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And how did he get his calculation?
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Okay, let me tell you.
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This is his math.
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He said, before the pandemic, Chinese Ministry of Civil Affairs said that on average 10 million
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0:46:23 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]e die every year with the winter months serving the highest fatalities at about 1
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million per month.
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0:46:32 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]e who work in the Chinese funeral industry, their workload grew 8 to
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10 times during COVID.
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Now this growth, however, does not include people who died in the countryside and were
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buried by their family locally.
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So this 8 to 10 times 10-fold growth does not include the spillover death that were
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absorbed in the countryside through the local burials.
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Based on his calculation, now considering all facts, he said China's monthly deaths
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0:47:06 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]rage [privacy contact redaction] three years from early
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2020 to the end of 2022 before zero COVID abruptly ended.
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So if you do the math, that's [privacy contact redaction] three years of
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COVID.
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And then after the lockdown ended at the end of 2022, China experienced an upsurge in COVID-related
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fatalities from the end of 2022 to early months of 2023.
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0:47:42 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]imated another 120 million Chinese died during that period.
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And his number is based on some internal data from Beijing's police department.
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So in January of 2023, at least 8,000 to 10,[privacy contact redaction]e died daily in hospitals in Beijing.
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And this didn't include people who died at home, in hotels, schools, or other dormitories.
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You know, a lot of Chinese live in work-provided dormitories.
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And the same number in Tianjin was 5,000 deaths daily in hospitals.
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Now, China has over 2,000 cities and counties of various sizes.
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So he calculated 120 million total fatalities across China in those months.
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And then on top of that, he said an additional 50 million deaths should be added to the early
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months of COVID in 2020 to account for the initial surge in death.
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So if you add them up, that's 222 million total deaths from the beginning of 2020 to
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the end of the surge in 2023.
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0:48:56 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] the 422 million from the 750 million, that's his number, that's
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0:49:01 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]imate of China's population being at a little over 300 million right now.
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Now, this is the first time that someone actually attempted to calculate total COVID death in
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recent years.
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I cannot dispute his numbers, but I think there's a piece that he missed.
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That is, his death, his 422 million deaths only covers from the beginning of the pandemic
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to the early months of 2023.
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As of now, or in 2024 and 2025, people are still dying.
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So the total number of casualties may be more than his 422 million and may even reach 500 million.
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Now, this 500 million matches with what the founder of the spiritual practice, Falun Gong,
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who said in early 2023 that 400 million Chinese had died in the pandemic and another 100 million
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would die until the end of the pandemic.
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0:50:02 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]imation?
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0:50:05 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]imate of Chinese population right now is somewhere between 300 million and 400 million.
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400 million is on the conservative side and [privacy contact redaction]imate.
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It's based on China having [privacy contact redaction]e before the pandemic and having lost between
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0:50:21 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]e so far.
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Now, yesterday, one of my long-term viewers wrote to me, he said one of his connections
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from Japan told him something very interesting that he wants to share with me.
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0:50:35 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] in Japan is a man of honorable character and is well connected to Japanese
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0:50:41 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ry.
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0:50:44 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] told my viewer that on the whole, Japan is now selling only one
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half of the salt to China that it did only a few years ago.
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0:50:57 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]y about the real Chinese population?
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0:51:02 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ly confirms that China's population is about half of what it was before the pandemic.
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0:51:09 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]imate that the population was 800 million before the pandemic
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and is now somewhere around 400 million.
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It's cutting half.
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Well, how about that everybody?
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Great job, Curtis, putting that together.
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Shocking scenes in it.
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It was great to see the second time.
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It's quite mind-numbing the first time.
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So I got some further insights from it.
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Great work, lots of work.
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All right.
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Anything you want to add before we go to Stephen for his questions?
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We've got two hands up already, but Stephen starts with the questions.
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Curtis, any thoughts?
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No, we can go into the questions.
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That's fine.
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Well done.
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All right, Chris, Stephen, are you there?
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Yeah, I'm here.
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So Curtis, I've got a pretty good understanding of figures, as I told you on the call last
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night.
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And I don't think you can lose [privacy contact redaction]e in China, which is about the size of
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0:52:32 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ates.
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So it's a big country and it's got a massive population, allegedly.
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But also I wasn't very impressed with Lei at the end.
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0:52:43 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]e are not only claiming that [privacy contact redaction]
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died during the Covid years, three years, as I understand it, but also they claim that
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the population figures were wrong originally.
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So they claim two things and they're mixing it all up.
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And I didn't like the way she was talking there and the way she was kind of using her
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logic.
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It sounded like Chinese logic to me.
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0:53:12 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction], that's my opinion.
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And I would look, the thing that interests me is that I think anything's possible in
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China.
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You know, we've got three genocides, massive genocides that we know about.
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The Great March of Mao in 1949, I think it was.
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0:53:34 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction] 1958 to 1962, I think it was, when 55 million died, the
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0:53:42 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ory of the world, allegedly.
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0:53:46 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction] when you read about it.
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And then you've got the Great Cultural Revolution from 1966 to 1976.
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0:53:53 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]ory of three huge genocides and so of their own people.
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So they're capable of anything.
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And the lockdowns in Shanghai and Peking, Beijing were very disturbing.
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Those white hazmat suits, you know, this is a weird country, in my opinion.
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I think China is the obvious enemy at the moment.
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It's got a totalitarian regime.
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They've got totalitarianism there.
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0:54:26 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]e say, oh, yeah, but, you know, kind of apologists for China, Western apologists
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who've done business there, they say that, you know, it's much better when you go there,
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much better than you think.
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No, I don't think I haven't been there.
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I know I should go there, but I don't want to go there because.
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But having said that, I have seen a film of a very seasoned traveler on YouTube videos,
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you know, going around India and then he crosses the border into China and clearly doesn't
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know what the heck's going on with all the tech and all the, you know, booking of hotels
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and he making he's making excuses for it, too.
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0:55:06 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]n't actually followed up.
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I would like to look at his videos within China, but it looked very, very dystopian
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to me at the beginning.
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So I don't know whether you've got any comments on that, Curtis.
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I'm not saying that you're wrong.
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I think you're right to raise questions.
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What the heck's going on here?
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0:55:23 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]uff that was spraying everywhere?
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Well, we don't know it was everywhere.
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0:55:27 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] been in a Chinese film set for all we know.
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OK. Well, I will say this.
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0:55:37 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] important is not that we agree right now with the correct number
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is, but the videos alone show that people were being poisoned and placed in situations
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0:55:50 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]e.
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I mean, they were supposedly spraying disinfectants.
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0:55:56 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ants, those are poisons.
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They should never be breathed in.
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0:56:01 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]ied to the skin.
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0:56:03 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]e everywhere.
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That's what that section was.
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I know it was long, but I want to drive home the fact that they were spraying people
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again and again and again with these disinfectants.
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We don't know what the chemicals really were.
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It could be far worse.
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0:56:20 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]ants like that, that's enough to kill you.
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It's enough to have all types of lung damage and other things.
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0:56:29 --> 0:56:31
So we don't know.
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We don't know they were spraying them again and again.
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0:56:33 --> 0:56:37
We know that they were spraying them on those videos we've seen.
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0:56:38 --> 0:56:43
Well, what I read, they was they would be spraying the same area multiple times.
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It wasn't like one time the trucks are gone.
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From what I've read, it was multiple sprayings.
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And so, I mean, if you come up with research saying something different, that's great.
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But that's what I've read.
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0:56:57 --> 0:57:01
And, yeah, they they were they were doing this,
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0:57:01 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]less of whether they were spraying pregnant women, babies
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0:57:06 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]e, respiratory problems, they did not care.
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0:57:10 --> 0:57:12
It was clearly designed.
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0:57:12 --> 0:57:14
Well, I would say to kill.
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0:57:14 --> 0:57:15
I'm not sure what else you could say.
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0:57:15 --> 0:57:19
So I points a gun at your head and pulls the trigger.
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0:57:19 --> 0:57:21
I mean, what do you say?
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0:57:22 --> 0:57:25
I mean, it's pretty obvious, but everybody has their own conclusions.
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On top of that, the crematoriums were overrun.
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I mean, they the crematoriums at one point were running,
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operating on like an eight hour a day.
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0:57:38 --> 0:57:44
But during this time period, that increased up to 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
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0:57:44 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]e dying.
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And even then, they couldn't keep up.
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0:57:48 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]arted building more and more crematoriums, thousands.
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0:57:52 --> 0:57:56
And the government, Chinese government, they started
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0:57:57 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] numbers of how many of these crematoriums.
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I saw one researcher, the analysis of the crematoriums that we know of,
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0:58:08 --> 0:58:09
thousands of them.
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0:58:09 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]imated, you know, if you're these things are running
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24 a day, seven days a week.
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0:58:17 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]
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cremating one body at a time.
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0:58:21 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]e bodies.
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They were doing yes.
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Yeah, we could arrive at a number like [privacy contact redaction]e,
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given the level of which they were incinerating people.
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Let's not even to include all the families who just buried their
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deceased family member on their own.
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0:58:43 --> 0:58:48
I mean, many could not afford funerals and the funeral homes are all overrun.
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0:58:48 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] burying them wherever they could.
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It's hard to know exactly what the right number is.
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But the approach of this researcher, I think she was doing the best she can.
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And the other researchers in China, I'm sorry, in Russia and Japan.
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0:59:07 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] the CCP,
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I think it's well established by looking at this.
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You can't trust the information coming from the CCP.
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0:59:16 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] methods like the Chinese.
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Researchers looked at salt consumption.
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I mean, if you know how much a group of people normally consume,
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0:59:28 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e there are.
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And the salt consumption numbers showed that there was
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a massive decrease in the population.
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Others looked at the Russians, looked at the
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at the various cities and counties that when the numbers were
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public and added up the numbers and they came up with these
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frightening numbers showing that there was a dramatic decrease in the population
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in in China.
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0:59:56 --> 0:59:59
And all the sources he cited
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1:00:00 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction] that prior to
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the advent of COVID, like in 2019,
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that we're looking at somewhere between six hundred million to
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1:00:12 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]e.
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If you round it off, I mean, well,
765
1:00:16 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]raged it out, came out to around eight hundred million.
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That's why she stuck with that number.
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1:00:22 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction] they can with the information that's available.
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This is not like fully available information
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with an open government. There's nothing to hide.
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I mean, they're doing their best to cover things up.
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So they're doing the best they can with the numbers that they do have.
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1:00:39 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction] number?
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1:00:43 --> 1:00:45
I mean, I don't know, but I have confirmed
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several other sources.
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1:00:48 --> 1:00:50
I'm going to put out a second video
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sources that go to even greater detail, far greater detail than what she did
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on each of the points that she made.
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1:00:58 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ed million.
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1:01:01 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]art looking enough for yourself, and I'm going to put out a video.
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1:01:04 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]awn a conclusion that, yes,
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1:01:08 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction] died.
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Now, I'm not tied to any particular number.
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And my whole point of putting this out there is to encourage people
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like those in this in this audience to do their own research,
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1:01:23 --> 1:01:24
draw their own conclusion.
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1:01:24 --> 1:01:27
But I think we can agree that something really bad
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that's happened in China in the past few years with the poisoning of the people,
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1:01:32 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]e, locking people in their building,
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literally were welding buildings, giant buildings with hundreds
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1:01:39 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]e as the welding the doors shut
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so they could not get out for food or water.
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1:01:46 --> 1:01:51
Now, that does sound like a caring government who wants people to thrive.
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That's how I might say, right? Yeah.
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The intention seems that they were meant to die.
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And that's why you saw all those.
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And I harp on that a little bit.
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1:02:02 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]e in Shanghai screaming.
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I mean, what would we do if we're locked in our building?
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Can't go to to get for a fact.
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1:02:11 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]ually closed.
801
1:02:13 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]e were trapped.
802
1:02:14 --> 1:02:18
And you imagine the psychological trauma of being raised
803
1:02:18 --> 1:02:21
to believe in your government, the CCP.
804
1:02:22 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]arving you.
805
1:02:25 --> 1:02:28
No supermarkets are closed and you can't leave your building.
806
1:02:28 --> 1:02:30
Doesn't matter if you want water, food, too bad.
807
1:02:31 --> 1:02:32
He imagined a trauma.
808
1:02:32 --> 1:02:33
That's what he said.
809
1:02:33 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]e were going insane and suicide.
810
1:02:36 --> 1:02:39
We're taking place and show you how bad it is.
811
1:02:39 --> 1:02:44
It makes you wonder about the motivation of the government is that buildings on fire.
812
1:02:45 --> 1:02:50
Well, the fire, the fire people could not go inside the building,
813
1:02:51 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]e who are in this burning building leave because of the COVID restrictions.
814
1:02:55 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]e burn and let them out of the building.
815
1:03:01 --> 1:03:04
And they said they encountered a few like 10 deaths.
816
1:03:05 --> 1:03:08
The reporter mentioned that doesn't like a government that's really caring.
817
1:03:08 --> 1:03:13
That's something like a government that, you know, you have to wonder about the motivations
818
1:03:14 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]ion to you.
819
1:03:18 --> 1:03:22
The four million. OK, maybe that's that's not the right number.
820
1:03:22 --> 1:03:27
Based on what you've seen so far or whatever other research you may have had time to do,
821
1:03:27 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] or more correct number of how many people may have died?
822
1:03:35 --> 1:03:40
Well, so I said last night, if only a million people had died, that would be a big story.
823
1:03:40 --> 1:03:47
So the million is possible, you know, with those dreadful lockdowns in Shanghai and Beijing.
824
1:03:47 --> 1:03:52
But I don't think that's that video, the clips you've assembled there.
825
1:03:53 --> 1:03:55
I don't think that really proves anything.
826
1:03:55 --> 1:03:58
So but but, you know, the stories, if that.
827
1:03:59 --> 1:04:02
Yeah, so we kind of operate on stories.
828
1:04:02 --> 1:04:05
I mean, the press, you know, if it's telling the truth, tell stories.
829
1:04:05 --> 1:04:08
That's how human beings like to learn.
830
1:04:08 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]ories are important because they are kind of, how shall I say, testimony from
831
1:04:15 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction] human beings and who want to tell the truth.
832
1:04:20 --> 1:04:23
And and so I think those are important.
833
1:04:23 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]n't seen all this. But, you know, I was very disturbed.
834
1:04:26 --> 1:04:31
But, you know, there was talk that they were the people who were the people who were
835
1:04:32 --> 1:04:36
the videos weren't authentic of what was happening in China.
836
1:04:36 --> 1:04:38
You know, the screaming from the buildings.
837
1:04:38 --> 1:04:41
We could see that in 2022, I think it was.
838
1:04:42 --> 1:04:45
And I wondered what were they putting that out?
839
1:04:45 --> 1:04:49
You know, what was China's role in the last five years?
840
1:04:49 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]e, you know, human beings around the world that, you know,
841
1:04:54 --> 1:04:57
you may be scared now, but this is what's coming in the future.
842
1:04:57 --> 1:05:00
You know, the Chinese style lockdown.
843
1:05:01 --> 1:05:03
With with the crazy.
844
1:05:05 --> 1:05:07
Camps, you know.
845
1:05:07 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction], because it's.
846
1:05:10 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ions from Mandish and Zahriyeel, Sebastian and Ellen,
847
1:05:16 --> 1:05:18
I think it is, but just.
848
1:05:18 --> 1:05:21
Yep. We we can talk about
849
1:05:21 --> 1:05:27
how R.F.K. Junior is getting on in the American administration after the questions, obviously.
850
1:05:28 --> 1:05:29
Very good. Thank you, Stephen.
851
1:05:29 --> 1:05:31
All right, Sebastian.
852
1:05:32 --> 1:05:34
You're first, buddy.
853
1:05:39 --> 1:05:40
He's gone to.
854
1:05:41 --> 1:05:43
OK, we'll go to we'll go to Anders.
855
1:05:45 --> 1:05:46
Anders, you're up.
856
1:05:47 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ing presentation.
857
1:05:52 --> 1:05:57
I cannot validate more than I can.
858
1:05:57 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ually know or do myself.
859
1:06:02 --> 1:06:07
So I want you to know that I've been about 15 times in China,
860
1:06:08 --> 1:06:16
starting in 2007, Shandong, Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong, Guangzhou.
861
1:06:18 --> 1:06:21
And I've been about seven times in India
862
1:06:22 --> 1:06:26
and I can see these big cities in China.
863
1:06:26 --> 1:06:30
And I can see it in India and I can kind of see,
864
1:06:31 --> 1:06:34
let's say, how much more people I see in India.
865
1:06:36 --> 1:06:39
But let's say if you go to my first big visit,
866
1:06:39 --> 1:06:43
which was Shandong, Qingdao in 2007,
867
1:06:45 --> 1:06:48
it was a really big population area.
868
1:06:48 --> 1:06:54
And I don't recall exactly, but let's say 110, [privacy contact redaction]e
869
1:06:55 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] one county, Shandong.
870
1:07:00 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]e there.
871
1:07:03 --> 1:07:09
And so and obviously Shanghai and Beijing had a lot more
872
1:07:10 --> 1:07:11
Shenzhen.
873
1:07:12 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]s are really densely populated.
874
1:07:16 --> 1:07:21
You know, I may know maybe two, three hundred Chinese people.
875
1:07:21 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ern friends there.
876
1:07:26 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction],
877
1:07:33 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction] because I've been traveling so much.
878
1:07:37 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]e I know there and they live there.
879
1:07:47 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ors.
880
1:07:49 --> 1:07:54
These are, let's say, different types of people and
881
1:07:55 --> 1:07:56
they're businessmen.
882
1:07:56 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]e.
883
1:07:58 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]ruggled
884
1:08:04 --> 1:08:08
with this data out of my,
885
1:08:08 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]ion of what I've seen, but also what people have told me
886
1:08:15 --> 1:08:18
in recent weeks, months.
887
1:08:19 --> 1:08:23
And I know it was a really terrible situation there.
888
1:08:24 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]e died.
889
1:08:28 --> 1:08:31
But I,
890
1:08:33 --> 1:08:35
I'm not able to believe
891
1:08:36 --> 1:08:38
that the population has declined.
892
1:08:38 --> 1:08:41
Let's say it was
893
1:08:41 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]e in 1980.
894
1:08:46 --> 1:08:49
And then they introduced the one child policy.
895
1:08:51 --> 1:08:59
And obviously, that caused a reduction in the new born.
896
1:09:00 --> 1:09:02
But it was corruption.
897
1:09:02 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]e could have two or three or organize somehow.
898
1:09:09 --> 1:09:14
But I think maybe it didn't pass a billion.
899
1:09:14 --> 1:09:15
I don't know.
900
1:09:15 --> 1:09:16
But I would say
901
1:09:19 --> 1:09:23
this movie you presented looks very alarming.
902
1:09:23 --> 1:09:27
And it is a lot of it linked to the lockdowns.
903
1:09:27 --> 1:09:29
And it was quite bad.
904
1:09:29 --> 1:09:36
And I can tell how I, my last two, three trips in Shenzhen and Guangzhou,
905
1:09:37 --> 1:09:39
about 2017, 18.
906
1:09:40 --> 1:09:42
About 2017, 18.
907
1:09:44 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]arted 2015, 16, 17.
908
1:09:52 --> 1:09:56
And they were doing it rather massively.
909
1:09:56 --> 1:10:01
And I was concerned because I couldn't see insects.
910
1:10:01 --> 1:10:02
I couldn't see birds.
911
1:10:02 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]e, I had a driver who was taking me around.
912
1:10:07 --> 1:10:11
And I asked him, so so so what about the birds, James?
913
1:10:11 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]s?
914
1:10:11 --> 1:10:12
He was from Hong Kong.
915
1:10:14 --> 1:10:18
And he said to me, smiling, oh, we like birds, meaning they were eating them.
916
1:10:18 --> 1:10:28
But I mean, the birds and insect, they were dying because of the spraying already in 2016, 17, 18.
917
1:10:29 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] for you, let's say nature was going on.
918
1:10:36 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] likely they did it very bad.
919
1:10:41 --> 1:10:49
But the type of apocalyptic scenario you presented here.
920
1:10:50 --> 1:10:58
And, you know, I, I have friends living in China and these are Norwegian and these are British.
921
1:10:58 --> 1:11:00
These are others.
922
1:11:00 --> 1:11:06
And I, I don't think they would keep that a secret.
923
1:11:08 --> 1:11:15
And I don't think also that, let's say it was a reduction of and people died.
924
1:11:16 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]arted to die a lot in Wuhan and other places.
925
1:11:20 --> 1:11:23
If you really followed what happened in China.
926
1:11:24 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ober, November in Wuhan when they put on 10,000 5G antennas.
927
1:11:30 --> 1:11:31
Hang on, hang on.
928
1:11:33 --> 1:11:34
This is Q&A.
929
1:11:34 --> 1:11:37
This is not this is not a speech.
930
1:11:37 --> 1:11:42
So so I would ask, are you aware of that?
931
1:11:43 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ion or claim covid was correlated to the timing of the launch of 5G
932
1:11:54 --> 1:12:05
throughout the country and the lockdowns were mostly severe in Shanghai, linked to political differences
933
1:12:05 --> 1:12:15
between the Qi and the business oligarchs in Shanghai who really opposed Qi.
934
1:12:15 --> 1:12:20
So there is a political fight, part of the process which you need to consider.
935
1:12:22 --> 1:12:29
Yeah, I'm aware of the heavy use of 5G, especially in Wuhan.
936
1:12:29 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] more 5G towers than anyplace else in the world concentrated.
937
1:12:34 --> 1:12:37
And obviously that was not going to be good for the people there.
938
1:12:37 --> 1:12:39
And yes, there was a lot of protests and everything else.
939
1:12:40 --> 1:12:45
But amazingly, shortly thereafter, all the protests ended.
940
1:12:46 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] quiet.
941
1:12:47 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]e died as a result.
942
1:12:52 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction], I read one report online.
943
1:12:55 --> 1:12:56
This was a while ago.
944
1:12:56 --> 1:13:07
And they were talking about radar imaging and showing that there was this cloud of funny looking gas over Wuhan.
945
1:13:08 --> 1:13:15
And the research was arguing that that was the massive cremation of people that was causing that.
946
1:13:15 --> 1:13:19
And so, yeah, 5G, yes, is bad.
947
1:13:19 --> 1:13:24
And yes, they did use it and it probably did cause a great deal of deaths.
948
1:13:24 --> 1:13:33
But at the same time, all that pesticide disinfectants that they were spraying on people, you saw it.
949
1:13:33 --> 1:13:39
I mean, people locked in their apartment, they can't breathe other than all that stuff coming into their apartments and their homes.
950
1:13:40 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction] horrific.
951
1:13:43 --> 1:13:50
And I'm very much aware of this, not just because of my research recently on China.
952
1:13:50 --> 1:13:57
I was involved in the whole movement in New York to stop the pesticides spraying in New York City.
953
1:13:58 --> 1:14:08
Back in the 90s, they were spraying people with malathion and other pesticides, supposedly to kill some West Nile virus.
954
1:14:08 --> 1:14:10
But you do the research.
955
1:14:11 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] Nile was very minor condition.
956
1:14:14 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]e would not get it.
957
1:14:16 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] mosquitoes would bite squirrels and other things.
958
1:14:20 --> 1:14:25
The risk of anybody even noticing that they had any kind of symptoms was very little.
959
1:14:25 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]ify spraying people massively.
960
1:14:32 --> 1:14:36
And this wasn't just in poor black, volunteer neighbors.
961
1:14:36 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]icides up and down the streets of Fifth Avenue, Park Avenue, all the affluent sections of Manhattan and New York.
962
1:14:44 --> 1:14:45
They did not care.
963
1:14:46 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]s.
964
1:14:49 --> 1:14:54
And so we ended up, I came up with a name for the group too, the No Spray Coalition.
965
1:14:54 --> 1:15:00
We got a lawyer funding and we sued New York City.
966
1:15:00 --> 1:15:06
It took years, but we won the lawsuit and the city had to stop the spraying.
967
1:15:07 --> 1:15:09
But years later, they're still doing it.
968
1:15:10 --> 1:15:18
So there's like an overarching power that I think is global nature that treats large numbers of people like we're insects.
969
1:15:18 --> 1:15:24
And so there wasn't the massive spraying like you saw in China, but it was still bad.
970
1:15:24 --> 1:15:28
And I think we got to be mindful of the effects.
971
1:15:28 --> 1:15:32
I mean, we should be banning all of these pesticides spraying in New York.
972
1:15:33 --> 1:15:40
And I think that the video clip should hopefully will cause some outrage to make sure that something like this doesn't happen in China or any place else.
973
1:15:40 --> 1:15:44
It's very, very dangerous to see nothing of the horrific lockdown.
974
1:15:44 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]e can find a little tiny cubicles forced to take whatever vaccines they're told to take, forced to eat whatever they're given.
975
1:15:52 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]uff.
976
1:15:54 --> 1:15:59
And if you die inside one of those facilities, well, they'll just be written up as a COVID death.
977
1:15:59 --> 1:16:10
Won't be written up as you died because you were given forced to take some COVID shot or other experimental drug or other experimental things that may have been placed in your food.
978
1:16:11 --> 1:16:17
Because it's such a closed society, they can get away with an awful lot.
979
1:16:17 --> 1:16:19
I mean, I don't know. It shocked me.
980
1:16:19 --> 1:16:25
I knew from the very beginning of lockdowns and stuff that a lot of people were going to die.
981
1:16:25 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] they were given the COVID shots, I knew there were a lot of people going to die.
982
1:16:29 --> 1:16:31
I didn't imagine these types of numbers.
983
1:16:32 --> 1:16:39
But the researcher that you saw there and others, which I have in my second video, they lay their facts on the table.
984
1:16:39 --> 1:16:41
They lay their sources on the table.
985
1:16:41 --> 1:16:54
And it's up to people like you and the others here and beyond to double check their references and do your own analysis, draw whatever number you think is most appropriate.
986
1:16:54 --> 1:16:55
So.
987
1:16:57 --> 1:17:05
Let's say what we see, the Chinese, they are the factory of the world.
988
1:17:06 --> 1:17:19
And if, if, let's say hundreds of millions of people should have died and they are not producing anymore, we would also have seen it on the supply side.
989
1:17:19 --> 1:17:26
And on the other side, we see that there are massive unemployment now.
990
1:17:26 --> 1:17:32
They're shutting down factories because of the trade policies by Trump.
991
1:17:33 --> 1:17:46
And if, if you had so many people taken out of the economy and there would be a shortage of capacity, it doesn't make sense to me.
992
1:17:47 --> 1:17:48
Good. Thank you, Anders.
993
1:17:48 --> 1:17:48
That's a comment.
994
1:17:48 --> 1:17:50
I'll take that as a comment and we'll move on.
995
1:17:51 --> 1:17:51
Ellen.
996
1:18:00 --> 1:18:02
Okay, here's Sebastian.
997
1:18:02 --> 1:18:03
Good.
998
1:18:05 --> 1:18:06
Hi Curtis.
999
1:18:06 --> 1:18:07
Good evening.
1000
1:18:07 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ion.
1001
1:18:10 --> 1:18:21
During the lockdown in China, was 5G in any way or means implicated or initiated, turned on, utilized during that time?
1002
1:18:21 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] quite a few members here that focus on this specific topic.
1003
1:18:29 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ually being used or is supposed to be used as a phased array weapon, etc.
1004
1:18:38 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] any information on this, on this point?
1005
1:18:41 --> 1:18:53
Well, yes, I mentioned earlier that, yeah, the Chinese government was accused of turning on 5G and that probably contributed to a lot of the deaths that took place in Wuhan specifically.
1006
1:18:53 --> 1:18:58
There's probably more going on, but we need to be concerned about that here.
1007
1:18:58 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction] through your typical city, you get 5G towers everywhere.
1008
1:19:03 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ate and I saw this what looked at first like a giant pine tree or something.
1009
1:19:11 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction], it was 5G antennas.
1010
1:19:14 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction] companies out there that disguise 5G towers.
1011
1:19:22 --> 1:19:27
I mean, they make it look like water towers and things and they attach them to light poles.
1012
1:19:27 --> 1:19:34
Now, they only do that if they know what as people wake up, they'll recognize these things as dangerous.
1013
1:19:34 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction] done some interviews with the woman, Daphna, I can't remember her last name, but she was the head of technology for the Israeli military.
1014
1:19:48 --> 1:19:59
And she's left and began working with Mr. Kennedy and children's self-defense warning about the dangers of 5G and wireless radiation in general.
1015
1:19:59 --> 1:20:05
And I tell you, listening to her scared the daylights out of me.
1016
1:20:05 --> 1:20:09
I mean, absolutely terrifying the things she said.
1017
1:20:09 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction], I took out any 5G, anything like that in my apartment and went to Ethernet, which is much safer.
1018
1:20:20 --> 1:20:24
So 5G, yes, I take very seriously as a very dangerous weapon.
1019
1:20:25 --> 1:20:31
And we need to be worried about that over here because we're surrounded by 5G towers and they keep building more.
1020
1:20:32 --> 1:20:36
And so, yes, yes, they did do it.
1021
1:20:36 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]ications are scary.
1022
1:20:39 --> 1:20:40
Thank you.
1023
1:20:40 --> 1:20:41
Thank you, Sebastian.
1024
1:20:41 --> 1:20:42
Ellen is next.
1025
1:20:43 --> 1:20:44
Yes, thank you.
1026
1:20:45 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction] at the part where the woman was talking about population decline and it was interesting.
1027
1:20:56 --> 1:21:05
I, you know, Googled it quickly too that because, you know, the statistics were given that it's like 1.6 billion.
1028
1:21:06 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] that, you know, China had the largest population.
1029
1:21:11 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ications of her research is that, you know, what's the fertility rate is?
1030
1:21:22 --> 1:21:25
I mean, we know Burkhardt.
1031
1:21:26 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] saw this Burkitt, you know, showed how the vaccines get into the testes and basically the spike protein replaces the sperm.
1032
1:21:39 --> 1:21:51
And, you know, Naomi Wolf's research came up with this, that it was basically going to cause a decline in, you know, the population.
1033
1:21:51 --> 1:21:56
That was really the form of bio warfare that that was going on.
1034
1:21:56 --> 1:22:19
And I would I wish you would, you know, you may have done this before, but we need is more of a, you know, inferential statistical research where you say, you know, this what vaccines were given, you know, when I know in America are they started putting MRNA platform in by Pfizer in 2016.
1035
1:22:21 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]e think, well, it couldn't be related because I didn't get it till 2021 or two.
1036
1:22:27 --> 1:22:30
And so, you know, it's like, what is driving this?
1037
1:22:30 --> 1:22:34
And it could well be, you know, we also saw a lot of research.
1038
1:22:34 --> 1:22:47
That's that's really what I my job has been is to kind of put together secondary research with primary research and figure out exactly, you know, what the trends are and what's going on and what's driving it.
1039
1:22:47 --> 1:23:01
And I wouldn't be kind of surprised at Stephen Frost, you know, just kind of saying, I don't like China, you know, I think the same globalist population control measures have been put in.
1040
1:23:01 --> 1:23:10
It's hard to accept. But by, you know, the World Economic Forum, World Health Organization, you know, really stated goals.
1041
1:23:11 --> 1:23:16
Microsoft's or Bill Gates goal of reducing the population by seven eights.
1042
1:23:16 --> 1:23:18
That's that's known.
1043
1:23:18 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] was looking for a document by Michael Ruppert from the wilderness where he was documenting this biological warfare back in the, you know, 2006 or something.
1044
1:23:31 --> 1:23:34
But they've now disappeared his whole website.
1045
1:23:34 --> 1:23:37
But it is on archive.org.
1046
1:23:38 --> 1:23:47
You know, the the details of this have microbiologists were being killed off, you know, suspiciously.
1047
1:23:47 --> 1:24:03
Those who were daring to speak out about these kind of plans, we know they're, you know, this whole thing came out of Fort Detrick or, you know, Fort Detrick by a warfare CRISPR labs were funded funding vaccine countermeasures.
1048
1:24:03 --> 1:24:12
You know, but they, you know, it's it's not repeated in the news here, just like and it's definitely we get misinformation about China.
1049
1:24:12 --> 1:24:15
And so I think this is important research.
1050
1:24:15 --> 1:24:20
And, you know, but I particularly also appreciate that you're bringing it up.
1051
1:24:20 --> 1:24:30
But the the five G we we've seen now research showing that five G was designed to work with this kind of electric.
1052
1:24:30 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] research on this, right?
1053
1:24:32 --> 1:24:42
This, you know, the electric kind of fad, mRNA, you know, something in the the vaccines.
1054
1:24:42 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]e should watch this movie, Agent People versus Agent Orange, showing how they our country was spraying dioxin Agent Orange all over California and Oregon and then killing off the people that were blowing the whistle on it.
1055
1:24:59 --> 1:25:05
You know, so this we big the big paradigm shift is we have to say it's not just them.
1056
1:25:05 --> 1:25:08
It's it's us. And who is the us?
1057
1:25:08 --> 1:25:24
It seems to be the the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, the King Charles and and mainly us, you know, our our the CIA and, you know, the the kind of deep state has been colluding.
1058
1:25:24 --> 1:25:33
And I've done a lot of research with the promise software that it was given by Israel to China and Osama bin Laden and Russia and the US.
1059
1:25:33 --> 1:25:43
And so we're all being fooled. It's being used to to, you know, dumb us all down and kill us all off really by seven, eight.
1060
1:25:43 --> 1:25:47
And the fertility rate is something we should track in America as well.
1061
1:25:47 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] to figure out what what statistics are true and which aren't true.
1062
1:25:53 --> 1:25:56
Anyhow, it's a long comment, but thank you.
1063
1:25:56 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] been saying there's too many people in the world for many decades.
1064
1:26:03 --> 1:26:12
And I majored in political science when I was in college, Custard's International, with a special focus on world hunger issues.
1065
1:26:12 --> 1:26:17
And I learned from that that the claim that there's too many people was all bogus.
1066
1:26:17 --> 1:26:21
There's more than enough people and not enough land to feed everybody.
1067
1:26:21 --> 1:26:29
You can fit every man, woman and child on the planet into the state of Texas, and they could each have a small piece of land.
1068
1:26:29 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]e is the same thing.
1069
1:26:31 --> 1:26:34
I said, there's too many ants in the world is bogus.
1070
1:26:34 --> 1:26:39
But what they really mean is that they want to have absolute control over resources.
1071
1:26:39 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]e become more educated and more enlightened through the Internet and things, they're going to demand more of the resources.
1072
1:26:47 --> 1:26:50
And that's not what the ultra elites want.
1073
1:26:50 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]e becoming too much aware.
1074
1:26:53 --> 1:27:03
I mean, it wasn't like many years ago when the only source of information people had was like books or maybe some newspapers.
1075
1:27:03 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]e can get all that information instantaneously on Google and other platforms, and especially with this AI technology, which is blowing my mind.
1076
1:27:12 --> 1:27:14
So they don't want that.
1077
1:27:14 --> 1:27:16
And they're very concerned.
1078
1:27:16 --> 1:27:20
And they want, you know, really powerful people say something.
1079
1:27:20 --> 1:27:22
You need to pay attention.
1080
1:27:22 --> 1:27:28
When they say they want to reduce the world's population by 90 percent, you need to take them very, very seriously.
1081
1:27:28 --> 1:27:42
And so I will say in terms of some more concrete data, I saw a report about the BCG vaccine being used in China.
1082
1:27:42 --> 1:27:48
This is the vaccine for preventing TB, which is bogus and they're poisoning their kids.
1083
1:27:48 --> 1:27:59
But China has been charged, arguments have been made that they are lying about on the fertility rate, how many children are born each year.
1084
1:27:59 --> 1:28:11
Well, when this information is publicly available, the number of newborns who receive the vaccine and think that they have to be vaccinated day one within 24 hours.
1085
1:28:11 --> 1:28:14
So that becomes a reliable number.
1086
1:28:14 --> 1:28:26
And what the research showed was that the Chinese government overestimated the number of births by something like 178 million from 1980.
1087
1:28:26 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] been grossly inflated in terms of the number of babies actually being born.
1088
1:28:32 --> 1:28:38
And so there's all kinds of anomalies and things, what they say and question marks.
1089
1:28:38 --> 1:28:42
And I'll go into more details in the second video I put out on this.
1090
1:28:42 --> 1:28:55
But yes, I mean, I think the numbers that we're talking about potentially in China and the deaths that could be tied to the overpopulation agenda or reducing the population.
1091
1:28:55 --> 1:28:58
And they're doing the same thing to a lesser degree over here.
1092
1:28:58 --> 1:29:03
I mean, I've been fighting for years against quarantine camps here in New York State.
1093
1:29:03 --> 1:29:13
I mean, we actually have a governor, Governor Kathy Kolko and Leticia James, I'm sure you all know about the media now, have been pushing for quarantine camps.
1094
1:29:13 --> 1:29:19
And they've been fighting vigorously. I mean, we have great attorney Bobbie Cox, and she's fought back.
1095
1:29:19 --> 1:29:25
But, you know, their control over the judges is pretty intense.
1096
1:29:25 --> 1:29:33
I mean, one of the appeals that Bobbie and Cox made was that, I mean, was brilliant.
1097
1:29:33 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]anding ovation. And we thought for sure that the judges was going to rule in our favor.
1098
1:29:39 --> 1:29:45
But no, the judges actually had the audacity to say that they didn't have standing.
1099
1:29:45 --> 1:29:51
We didn't have standing. How can we representing elected officials, senators, six senators and assembly people,
1100
1:29:51 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]anding over a bill that infringes on their rights?
1101
1:29:56 --> 1:30:04
They're trying to pass a regulation when in fact what they were trying to do was really to undermine the New York State Legislature,
1102
1:30:04 --> 1:30:08
which is the one who's supposed to make decisions about quarantine camps.
1103
1:30:08 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction] legislation in New York for those issues. Somebody is a health threat.
1104
1:30:14 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]uff very seriously and look at the big picture because it's definitely an agenda at foot.
1105
1:30:23 --> 1:30:28
Thank you, Alan. We're going to move. We're going to keep moving. If we have time, we'll come back later.
1106
1:30:28 --> 1:30:33
But Anders made that good point, Curtis, in terms of the production from China.
1107
1:30:33 --> 1:30:40
Who knows what the truth is? But you raised some excellent questions.
1108
1:30:40 --> 1:30:44
Now, Gary Hawkins is next and then Masha.
1109
1:30:44 --> 1:30:54
Yeah, having no standing translated means if your rights are being violated, you don't have any business complaining about it.
1110
1:30:54 --> 1:31:05
That really annoys me. Thank you for bringing this up, Curtis. And thank you, Stephen, for inviting him here again.
1111
1:31:05 --> 1:31:12
Thank you. Some YouTube videos. A few things were kind of just jumping out at me.
1112
1:31:12 --> 1:31:20
I know it's kind of, you know, skimming over things. But do you do you see the chat here in this session?
1113
1:31:20 --> 1:31:28
I'm going to paste into the chat some possibilities of what's happening with these people.
1114
1:31:28 --> 1:31:45
There was one video where Xi, the leader of China, was claiming that people are criminals and they're being arrested and the platitude of they will be given representation sometime, somewhere in the future.
1115
1:31:45 --> 1:31:52
Number two, I don't know about the Sinovac vaccine, COVID vaccine, what the protocol was.
1116
1:31:52 --> 1:32:00
I don't know if it was like J&J and AstraZeneca, which were so deadly they had to be pulled from the market, which was a single initial shot.
1117
1:32:00 --> 1:32:05
Or whether there are two initial shots like Pfizer and Moderna.
1118
1:32:05 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ing the possibility of organ harvesting.
1119
1:32:10 --> 1:32:22
And oh my God, what a horror that is. If that many people, that would mean the cost of getting an organ transplant would go way down, right? Worldwide.
1120
1:32:22 --> 1:32:32
I myself thought if I'm the leader of China, I might like the idea of exporting my people to all over the place.
1121
1:32:32 --> 1:32:43
Like, for example, in the Panama Canal and China trying to take over the Panama Canal, we just put a whole bunch of our people there and they act as eyes and ears for us.
1122
1:32:43 --> 1:32:59
That type of thing. Number five, somebody was suggesting the Chinese people are fleeing, escaping to the wilder rural China, which they said is vast.
1123
1:32:59 --> 1:33:04
I didn't watch that video yet, but yeah, kind of believable, I guess.
1124
1:33:04 --> 1:33:09
And then number six, the sprain and killing their own citizens either accidentally or on purpose.
1125
1:33:09 --> 1:33:16
And I think that's probably your I want to know what your OK, what's your best guess?
1126
1:33:16 --> 1:33:21
It could be a combination of things. Thanks again, Kurtz.
1127
1:33:21 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] guess about what? I'm not sure.
1128
1:33:27 --> 1:33:31
As to what's happening to those people.
1129
1:33:31 --> 1:33:34
Well, I think they're dead.
1130
1:33:34 --> 1:33:37
Sure.
1131
1:33:37 --> 1:33:39
What killed them?
1132
1:33:39 --> 1:33:42
What did you want?
1133
1:33:42 --> 1:33:44
Yeah.
1134
1:33:44 --> 1:33:47
What they cease to be.
1135
1:33:47 --> 1:33:52
Yeah, but many things could have killed them. So what do you suppose is most likely?
1136
1:33:52 --> 1:34:04
Well, some of the topics that I covered in the video was the massive spring of what we were told were disinfectants, which are toxic, even thought supposed to breathe that stuff in, that's pure skin.
1137
1:34:04 --> 1:34:17
And they were spraying them again and again. And in the video, I also mentioned the locking people in buildings, no food, no water, basically left to die.
1138
1:34:17 --> 1:34:31
And I also in the video mentioned the quarantine camps where people were literally rounded up whole communities rounded up at midnight or and taken to these quarantine camp facilities.
1139
1:34:31 --> 1:34:41
And these quarantine camps were all over China. They built thousands of them. And some of these facilities could hold as many as 50,[privacy contact redaction]e at a time.
1140
1:34:41 --> 1:34:55
And I think the combination of these things plus the forced vaccination with the COVID shot, which I think is the deadliest vaccine ever created, I think a combination of these things contributed to massive deaths in China.
1141
1:34:55 --> 1:35:00
Yeah. Okay. And then I'll just offer one more thing. I have one Chinese friend.
1142
1:35:00 --> 1:35:08
You alluded earlier to the difficulty of getting believable information out of China.
1143
1:35:08 --> 1:35:18
So they had this one child policy and she told me that her dad who would her parents live in the Bay Area, she has a slight accent, by the way.
1144
1:35:18 --> 1:35:28
Her dad told her that in the in the area that they came from, it had become a four child policy there.
1145
1:35:28 --> 1:35:33
Isn't that weird? It's like, yeah, I agree with you.
1146
1:35:33 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction] to figure out what's going on in China, right?
1147
1:35:38 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]icated situation.
1148
1:35:42 --> 1:35:46
So, have you finished, Gary? Thank you for the question.
1149
1:35:46 --> 1:35:52
Masha, you're in Germany, aren't you Masha? I think.
1150
1:35:52 --> 1:35:53
Yes.
1151
1:35:53 --> 1:35:56
Very good.
1152
1:35:56 --> 1:36:02
For some reason I used to think you were in Israel, but I don't know why that was.
1153
1:36:02 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction] known this because we've been discussing it.
1154
1:36:07 --> 1:36:08
All right.
1155
1:36:08 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]
1156
1:36:11 --> 1:36:12
Yeah.
1157
1:36:12 --> 1:36:14
I'm in Germany.
1158
1:36:14 --> 1:36:15
Okay. Hi Curtis.
1159
1:36:15 --> 1:36:18
Hello.
1160
1:36:18 --> 1:36:22
Talking of reliable numbers.
1161
1:36:22 --> 1:36:29
In person, percentage of decline in China. What are we talking about in percentage?
1162
1:36:29 --> 1:36:36
Well, we talked about over the past few years, something like fifth percent drop in the population.
1163
1:36:36 --> 1:36:46
If we use the number 800 million at the beginning of COVID, and they're talking about [privacy contact redaction]op.
1164
1:36:46 --> 1:36:49
Well, that means half of the population may have declined.
1165
1:36:49 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction], as you saw in the presentation, a woman said that that's it's probably worse than that.
1166
1:36:55 --> 1:37:00
That's probably closer to 500 million because those numbers go up through the early 2023.
1167
1:37:00 --> 1:37:15
And if we go beyond that up until 2024, 2025, the number of people dead could be reached could reach 500 million, which would mean the population of China would be around 300 million.
1168
1:37:15 --> 1:37:24
So we're talking about half or more than half of the population gone in the past few years.
1169
1:37:24 --> 1:37:32
The reason I am asking was 17 millions officially acknowledge vaccination death.
1170
1:37:32 --> 1:37:39
I do not believe it's true, but I know a tiny island in the middle of the Atlantic.
1171
1:37:39 --> 1:37:48
And on this island, the island of themselves are talking about [privacy contact redaction] two years.
1172
1:37:48 --> 1:38:05
And with this knowledge, I do believe that 20 percent decline in every country is realistic because the only difference between this tiny island and say Germany or US that you cannot die here anonymously.
1173
1:38:05 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]e know each other. So if someone dies, it might be someone from family or friend or neighbor or something.
1174
1:38:12 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]ic numbers I know, which are really reliable because the people are not dying anonymously.
1175
1:38:20 --> 1:38:26
So I think 20 percent, from my point of view, is a realistic decline in every country.
1176
1:38:26 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] wanted to come in. Well, yeah, if I actually listen that I would think if you're talking about just vaccine related deaths, but we're talking about mass poisoning, people being sprayed with toxic chemicals and people being locked in to their buildings to literally starve and dehydrate.
1177
1:38:47 --> 1:38:54
We're talking about something way beyond just vaccine related deaths.
1178
1:38:55 --> 1:38:59
Thank you, Curtis. My pleasure. Thank you.
1179
1:38:59 --> 1:39:13
So it is true, Curtis. I think if you look at the history of those great genocides in China, that no one knew what was happening or lots of people in China didn't know what was happening until afterwards.
1180
1:39:13 --> 1:39:19
I think that was the common thing. So you'd think it's a huge country.
1181
1:39:19 --> 1:39:27
Of course, China is the size of the United States, approximately mainland United States without Alaska, I think from memory.
1182
1:39:27 --> 1:39:31
But maybe the whole I'll look it up in a second.
1183
1:39:31 --> 1:39:43
But yeah, so the the thing about China is that they have a history of killing their own people rather like Stalin.
1184
1:39:43 --> 1:39:47
You know, he was killing the Russian people as well.
1185
1:39:47 --> 1:39:50
I guess. Yes.
1186
1:39:50 --> 1:39:54
Go ahead. No, no, I saw a report.
1187
1:39:54 --> 1:39:57
I mean, I've done a lot of reading and there's a lot of reports on China.
1188
1:39:57 --> 1:40:10
And one of them was pointing out that even Mao Zedong said that, you know, if we lose, you know, [privacy contact redaction]e or more, that's OK if it's for the revolution.
1189
1:40:10 --> 1:40:22
And he made similar quotes several times, according to this report, which may reflect the mentality of what we're seeing there today.
1190
1:40:22 --> 1:40:34
I mean, it's yeah, the public perception is China's thriving economy and everybody's into high tech making lots of money.
1191
1:40:34 --> 1:40:41
Now, there's massive, massive poverty all across China, even the people who are doing well.
1192
1:40:41 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction] Americans make in terms of monthly income.
1193
1:40:46 --> 1:41:03
So, unfortunately, if these numbers are correct, are anywhere close to being correct, we're talking about one of the greatest acts of genocide of this century, if not world history.
1194
1:41:03 --> 1:41:14
And, you know, I really hope this can be proven wrong, because I really I'd rather not believe that human beings are capable of such mass murder, especially of their own kind.
1195
1:41:14 --> 1:41:17
You normally think of the Chinese as, you know, close knit people.
1196
1:41:17 --> 1:41:26
It's hard to imagine an invading army of China doing worse to the Chinese people than what's being done right now with the current government.
1197
1:41:26 --> 1:41:31
But hopefully that's wrong. Maybe it's all miscalculation, misunderstanding.
1198
1:41:31 --> 1:41:40
Nobody's being sprayed with poisons. Nobody's locked in quarantine, cancer, nobody's being forced to take part of the deadly vaccine.
1199
1:41:40 --> 1:41:43
Maybe all that's wrong. And it'd be great if somebody could prove that.
1200
1:41:43 --> 1:41:50
Hmm. Well, it's great news that Trump has sorted out Panama and China.
1201
1:41:50 --> 1:41:58
And now he's sorted out the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and what's the other one?
1202
1:41:58 --> 1:42:06
The second one he went to, I forgot the name, not too bad.
1203
1:42:06 --> 1:42:12
What's the second state that Trump went to last week?
1204
1:42:12 --> 1:42:14
Saudi Arabia?
1205
1:42:14 --> 1:42:16
Saudi Arabia, yes, the second one.
1206
1:42:16 --> 1:42:18
What was the second one?
1207
1:42:18 --> 1:42:22
I can't remember.
1208
1:42:22 --> 1:42:26
I think it was the Emirates.
1209
1:42:26 --> 1:42:30
No, that was the United Arab Emirates. But what was the other one? The third one?
1210
1:42:30 --> 1:42:32
Qatar, Qatar.
1211
1:42:32 --> 1:42:34
Yeah.
1212
1:42:34 --> 1:42:43
So, oh, and so Trump's story about last week was that he's taken the trade.
1213
1:42:43 --> 1:42:52
He's got seven trillion dollars worth of orders, you know, for America coming back from the Middle East.
1214
1:42:52 --> 1:42:57
And he's taken those orders because they were going to give them to China.
1215
1:42:57 --> 1:42:59
I don't know whether that's true.
1216
1:42:59 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction], so Trump is quietly sorting out China, it looks like.
1217
1:43:06 --> 1:43:14
Well, yeah, well, Trump has said when he was running for president that his focus is America first.
1218
1:43:14 --> 1:43:24
And I think it's nothing less than treason what the Democrats did by shifting manufacturing over to China and other places.
1219
1:43:24 --> 1:43:29
Nothing less than treason. And Trump is he's fighting against that.
1220
1:43:29 --> 1:43:34
And so the tariffs don't know how long those really going to last.
1221
1:43:34 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction], it's going to motivate more manufacturers to start producing those products that would normally be coming in from China.
1222
1:43:41 --> 1:43:46
I mean, America can make things and can make things as good and better than others.
1223
1:43:46 --> 1:43:52
And I think it's time for that to take place. And Trump is the is the man to get the job done.
1224
1:43:53 --> 1:43:56
So, Ellen, do you want to ask another question?
1225
1:43:56 --> 1:44:08
Yeah, I just before before and jumps in, I just want to make a quick correction, Charles Curtis, the statement that Maaston said, what about 100 million Chinese?
1226
1:44:08 --> 1:44:12
He really didn't care about that. That was actually in.
1227
1:44:13 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]s to the nuclear weapon that he wanted from Russia back in those days, so you asked Russia, he asked Stalin to give them, give him the technology to build a nuclear device and started and said, you know, you can you can kill a lot of people with this.
1228
1:44:28 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]alin after about that, concerning that.
1229
1:44:32 --> 1:44:35
Yeah, well, I saw several quotes. I remember the details and exact context.
1230
1:44:35 --> 1:44:42
But the main point was that he's expressed a willingness to sacrifice large numbers of his people.
1231
1:44:42 --> 1:44:44
So there were several quotes, as I said.
1232
1:44:44 --> 1:44:46
So thank you.
1233
1:44:46 --> 1:44:48
Yeah.
1234
1:44:48 --> 1:44:53
So, Ellen, I think you're going to have to go back to the beginning of the conversation.
1235
1:44:53 --> 1:45:03
Yeah, I just, yeah, I think that we've got a huge misinformation campaign about China and Russia.
1236
1:45:03 --> 1:45:05
And I think that's a good point.
1237
1:45:05 --> 1:45:07
I think that's a good point.
1238
1:45:07 --> 1:45:09
I think that's a good point.
1239
1:45:09 --> 1:45:23
Okay, yeah, I just, yeah, I think that we've got a huge misinformation campaign about China and Russia.
1240
1:45:23 --> 1:45:28
And I, you know, Trump seems to get Russia and but but not China or Iran.
1241
1:45:28 --> 1:45:48
But I think, you know, the key question is, my hypothesis would be that it was America that has poisoned China or, you know, helping the CCP poison China, you know, just like we're doing to the world.
1242
1:45:48 --> 1:45:55
You know, so and covering it up, I mean, you know, it just frustrates me.
1243
1:45:55 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction] a debate.
1244
1:45:57 --> 1:46:04
But I know there's some really great Chinese, accurate Chinese sources, Ben Norton.
1245
1:46:04 --> 1:46:30
And, you know, people are working overtime to try to help America see that China is not an enemy, whereas, you know, it seems we've known for the last ever since the war on, you know, Russia's attack on Ukraine, which was really Russia just, you know, telling NATO not to point missiles at at Russia.
1246
1:46:30 --> 1:46:45
And, you know, and so America and the Western powers that petro dollar states have been orchestrating this propaganda campaign to misinform the Americans and the world about China.
1247
1:46:45 --> 1:47:03
You know, John Pilger, you know, wrote about this or did great documentaries on it, you know, that, you know, we're we're just and I know a Chinese girl in my free speech forum, which is a great thing people should check out college of complexes.org.
1248
1:47:03 --> 1:47:11
But she said that, you know, Taiwan, there's always been a policy if Taiwan attacks China, you know, it's going to be World War.
1249
1:47:11 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] doing everything to provoke that.
1250
1:47:16 --> 1:47:20
And it's it really is a classic deep state.
1251
1:47:20 --> 1:47:31
You know, we have to understand that this date deep state plan was put in, you know, the New World Order, [privacy contact redaction], England, America, Israel.
1252
1:47:31 --> 1:47:41
You know, this plot to take over the world, you know, but primarily waging a Cold War on communism.
1253
1:47:41 --> 1:47:49
And we've used that, like he said, to go and take the resources, put in torture camp, put in puppets, you know.
1254
1:47:49 --> 1:48:01
You know, and so it's I think it's up to us to see, you know, that the same thing that we we assassinated Kennedy and, you know, 9-11 and now covid.
1255
1:48:01 --> 1:48:09
This is all, you know, a deep state operation that, you know, it seems what definitely is the deep state.
1256
1:48:09 --> 1:48:19
You read Peter, Dale, Scott and, you know, the this whole body of revisionist history is showing that we are, you know, we've just been lied to.
1257
1:48:19 --> 1:48:24
And so that's why people should come to our truth action project on Tuesday night.
1258
1:48:24 --> 1:48:36
Well, tonight from seven to nine central time where we're discussing and trying to get Trump aware of these three, you know, to open up the records and have a presidential commission to get the records.
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1:48:36 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]ly who, you know, who is causing these deaths?
1260
1:48:40 --> 1:48:42
You know, I think that's the key thing.
1261
1:48:42 --> 1:48:45
And the thing we're not looking at is ourselves.
1262
1:48:45 --> 1:48:49
You know, it's that Adam Curtis, you know, power of nightmares.
1263
1:48:49 --> 1:48:54
It's always the enemy that we create China, Russia, Iran.
1264
1:48:54 --> 1:49:02
And the truth is, they're the only ones that have resisted being captured by our our global banking.
1265
1:49:03 --> 1:49:07
Banking of international settlement, Luciferian takeover.
1266
1:49:07 --> 1:49:10
Right. So anyhow, that's what I want to say.
1267
1:49:10 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]anding, I really gets me because we have to figure out a way to get it into courts, international courts with the power to to hold America to a truth and reconciliation process that a denazification process.
1268
1:49:22 --> 1:49:24
So thank you.
1269
1:49:24 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ications, I think, of this information overall is that we've got to think about the implications in terms of our own self-interest.
1270
1:49:36 --> 1:49:40
A lot of our pharmaceuticals are coming from China.
1271
1:49:40 --> 1:49:47
Now, if these things are true, these numbers are anywhere close to what they seem to be.
1272
1:49:47 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]eps that we've been following.
1273
1:49:50 --> 1:49:52
And the vaccine, in fact, Mr.
1274
1:49:52 --> 1:50:02
Kennedy has said that there needs to be a shift because it's not in our best interest to have our pharmaceutical products coming in from China, which is not like our warmest friend.
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1:50:02 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]ies to food.
1276
1:50:05 --> 1:50:08
Chinese food is very, very toxic.
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1:50:08 --> 1:50:11
And I think that's a very important point.
1278
1:50:11 --> 1:50:21
I mean, I saw a video of which they were dipping fruits like strawberries and pesticides 24 different times.
1279
1:50:21 --> 1:50:24
I saw a video of a conveyor belt.
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1:50:24 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]oded.
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1:50:28 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]e get very, very sick.
1282
1:50:31 --> 1:50:36
These very limited regulations is outright all-in-all corruption in China.
1283
1:50:36 --> 1:50:48
And consequently, the regulations to protect the health of the public from dangerous food products and toxic food products, and all of that, and I think that's a very important point.
1284
1:51:19 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ocked with a lot of food products from China.
1285
1:51:23 --> 1:51:34
And we need to ask them if they are doing certain things like this to their own people, what do you think they're capable of doing to us with their food products and their medicines?
1286
1:51:34 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ion to be considered.
1287
1:51:38 --> 1:51:47
Do you think the FDA should be more reliable at evaluating what food and drugs are poisoning us?
1288
1:51:47 --> 1:51:48
Without a doubt.
1289
1:51:48 --> 1:51:53
I mean, I've said for many years that the FDA is a joke.
1290
1:51:53 --> 1:51:57
I mean, they routinely put dangerous products on market.
1291
1:51:57 --> 1:52:06
That's why myself and many others are so happy when Mr. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was appointed to be Secretary of HHS.
1292
1:52:06 --> 1:52:14
We think this will be a major overhaul, and I think the health of Americans are going to improve because Mr. Kennedy is in that position.
1293
1:52:16 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction] there, just speaking of Trump, that they just announced, I think that they're not going to require mandated vaccines to be given to children.
1294
1:52:27 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction] was announced, right?
1295
1:52:30 --> 1:52:32
Yeah. And to pregnant women.
1296
1:52:32 --> 1:52:40
I think they were focused on the COVID shot specifically that is no longer going to be required, which is a huge victory.
1297
1:52:40 --> 1:52:49
Dr. James Thorpe, he had been leading the fight because he's an OGBYN, and I've had him on as a guest on my substack many times.
1298
1:52:49 --> 1:52:57
And he's been outraged over the idea of giving these COVID shots to pregnant women.
1299
1:52:57 --> 1:53:03
He's seen all the adverse reactions that they were having, the fetuses and the deaths and everything.
1300
1:53:03 --> 1:53:13
Horrific. And he was talking to me on the phone at one point while he was working on a book, but he was very busy and time consuming.
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1:53:13 --> 1:53:20
And he didn't know what to do. And I recommended that he speak with Celia Farber.
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1:53:20 --> 1:53:28
She's a famous writer. I know her from years ago because we were part of the whole Expose and HIV AIDS hoax.
1303
1:53:28 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction] her book here, right? Serious adverse events.
1304
1:53:32 --> 1:53:33
Yes.
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1:53:33 --> 1:53:38
She's a member of this group. She's off and on, but I don't think she's on tonight.
1306
1:53:38 --> 1:53:43
Okay. Okay. Well, I put her in contact with Dr. Thorpe and they hit it off.
1307
1:53:43 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]writer, she became a co-author on the book.
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1:53:48 --> 1:53:59
And I think that book has helped with the decision to end the recommendation of the COVID shot be given to pregnant women and children.
1309
1:53:59 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction] Thorpe and Celia and my little part may have had a role in what's happened now. It's a huge victory.
1310
1:54:08 --> 1:54:12
Was that Trump who announced that? Was it HHS?
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1:54:12 --> 1:54:15
I believe it was coming from HHS.
1312
1:54:15 --> 1:54:26
Yeah. Trump announced today that he had progress with, you know, his conversation with Putin and bringing about peace.
1313
1:54:26 --> 1:54:32
And they're going to have a meeting in the Vatican with the Pope, the American Pope.
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1:54:32 --> 1:54:34
Yeah.
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1:54:34 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]
1316
1:54:38 --> 1:54:50
Oh, before I go, I should mention that it was Dr. Shasta Erickson who asked me to speak to Dr. Thorpe because he was having troubles writing his book.
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1:54:50 --> 1:54:57
So she's been behind the scenes making a lot of things happen most people don't know, including with myself and many others.
1318
1:54:57 --> 1:55:03
So she's a true warrior like I know all of you are. So big shout out to Dr. Shasta Erickson.
1319
1:55:03 --> 1:55:08
Yeah, I think she's on the call tonight. But, um, and I do want to ask a question.
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1:55:08 --> 1:55:09
Finished it, Ellen.
1321
1:55:09 --> 1:55:11
Okay. Yeah. Thanks.
1322
1:55:11 --> 1:55:13
Okay. Thank you.
1323
1:55:13 --> 1:55:16
And is.
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1:55:16 --> 1:55:17
Oh, yes.
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1:55:17 --> 1:55:31
So I'm not sure how to say this, but let's say most people who listen to the media believe that Fethanil is the main, let's say, killer in the USA.
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1:55:31 --> 1:55:41
But if you add graphene oxide and carbon nanotubes and link to 5G, there would be several times more lethal.
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1:55:41 --> 1:55:52
And I made this kind of analysis today, yesterday into the so-called freedom movement.
1328
1:55:52 --> 1:55:57
And it's an extreme sensor going on there.
1329
1:55:57 --> 1:56:01
So are you Curtis aware of that?
1330
1:56:01 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]ually the main cause of death connected to COVID, which is the 5G and the nanotechnology, which is interfering in cellular death, which is then 5G and nanotechnology.
1331
1:56:21 --> 1:56:23
Are you aware of that?
1332
1:56:23 --> 1:56:28
Yeah, I organized an event and Dr.
1333
1:56:28 --> 1:56:39
Pilepsky was on and he was raising that very point about the link between 5G radiation and some of the components of the COVID shot.
1334
1:56:39 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction] so frightening.
1335
1:56:43 --> 1:56:50
And I've not done the in-depth research, but if Dr. Pilepsky says it, I take it as virtually gospel truth.
1336
1:56:50 --> 1:56:54
He's a brilliant researcher. So yes, there's a lot of literature out there.
1337
1:56:54 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]rage person is very naive about this topic.
1338
1:57:00 --> 1:57:06
I mean, it's like frightening to see so many people walking around with these earpieces on wireless technology.
1339
1:57:06 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]ing to Daphna, the woman who is an expert on radiation things, she said that that's far worse using the wireless headset than it would be if they use the wire.
1340
1:57:19 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]e, they don't know. They get in themselves brain cancers and tumors and other things they have no idea.
1341
1:57:25 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] don't know about 5G, even though at Children's Health Conference, we managed to win a victory, I guess, with the SEC, where they no longer claim that wireless radiation is safe.
1342
1:57:40 --> 1:57:46
So, yeah, I'm familiar with it. I'm not an expert. I haven't done in-depth research on it.
1343
1:57:46 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] Pilepsky and others take it very, very seriously.
1344
1:57:51 --> 1:58:17
I'll just add another question. So according to my research, I find that inside the Freedom Movement, if you go into the wellness company and affiliated units, you will find that a lot of these people who are connected, nobody is talking about it.
1345
1:58:17 --> 1:58:20
What, 5G?
1346
1:58:20 --> 1:58:41
So, let's say, the nanotechnology, the synthetic technology in the graphene oxide, graphene nanotubes, all of this technology which was put into the JABs, they are interacting with 5G or 4G.
1347
1:58:41 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction] of them. Let's say if you go to Robert Malone, Peter McCullough, all of them, nobody's talking about it.
1348
1:58:54 --> 1:59:16
I remember doing research on that earlier on about the graphene oxide. And there was a doctor or scientist who said that one of the things that that stuff was doing was actually cutting up making microscopic razor-like incisions in people's organs and blood vessels.
1349
1:59:16 --> 1:59:34
And he was contributing to all the sudden deaths and things. And that particular scientist, he ended up being, well, he died shortly thereafter. There's literature out there. There's so many issues that are competing with each other.
1350
1:59:34 --> 1:59:42
But I think it's very valid to bring that issue to the forefront of public attention again.
1351
1:59:42 --> 1:59:45
Yes. Thank you for saying that.
1352
1:59:45 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]easure.
1353
1:59:48 --> 1:59:50
Ellen, do you want to ask another question?
1354
1:59:50 --> 1:59:51
Okay.
1355
1:59:51 --> 2:00:02
You know, unless someone else wants to go. But yeah, I wanted to just suggest that people see this Dr. David Martin.
1356
2:00:02 --> 2:00:19
Ivan, are you all familiar with Ivan? A really smart guy, thinking of his last name, but he posted a, and I'll try to post it here, a David Martin's talk at the.
1357
2:00:19 --> 2:00:21
Yeah, we know David Martin.
1358
2:00:21 --> 2:00:41
Okay, right. You know, well, he maybe this is from before, but just, you know, the statistics that he named on the World Health Organization that, you know, as a criminal cabal going back, you know, to 1913 and this, you know, this idea, the eugenics idea.
1359
2:00:41 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ains probably the influence behind this China genocide and, you know, Israeli genocide.
1360
2:00:49 --> 2:00:56
And, you know, they're they're all part of a plan, you know, but David Martin really knocks it out of the court.
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2:00:56 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]ed that in a comment to real Donald Trump on Twitter or X, you know, thinking, please look at this and Ivan Cummins, if you y'all should bring him on because he Ivan Cummins science.
1362
2:01:11 --> 2:01:18
He's so clear about, you know, the analyze in this phenomena and we've had either Cummins as a guest.
1363
2:01:18 --> 2:01:19
Okay.
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2:01:19 --> 2:01:20
All right.
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2:01:20 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]
1366
2:01:21 --> 2:01:22
Okay.
1367
2:01:23 --> 2:01:35
You know, I just think we have to keep bringing these people up because I know even I suggested Russell Russell somebody you know you forget we know.
1368
2:01:35 --> 2:01:39
No, not Russell. Have you had him on? He's good to know.
1369
2:01:39 --> 2:01:49
No, right. But no, Russell, the doctor, I think you said that you that he had spoken out the beginning of the pandemic 2022.
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That, you know, I'll think of his name and that, you know, this is an operation. This was a military biological warfare operation and that you know that's the, the truth suppression that there, we got to fight against is this, you know,
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2:02:08 --> 2:02:22
Department of Defense, US Army Special Forces, NIAID, Fauci, you know, Fort Detrick, Wuhan, you know, biological warfare operation.
1372
2:02:22 --> 2:02:24
Have you had Meryl Nass? I know, right.
1373
2:02:24 --> 2:02:25
Yes.
1374
2:02:25 --> 2:02:34
Right. You know, so it, but the world doesn't know this. This is, I'm glad to know now about you, Curtis, because I'll, you know, this and this show is so important.
1375
2:02:34 --> 2:02:55
You know, we need to get the whole world with one version of truth about, you know, who's poisoning us, which is, you know, the globalists and we're doing it to ourselves and people say only Donald Trump can, but you know, if he may be influenced, I think by the deep state.
1376
2:02:55 --> 2:03:04
This is really rude of me, but what does all that have to do in honoring the guest in his topic today?
1377
2:03:04 --> 2:03:10
Well, we were just discussing Gary, so we're not kind of rigid. Yeah.
1378
2:03:10 --> 2:03:12
Okay.
1379
2:03:12 --> 2:03:16
Well, yeah, you can go ahead if you like, Gary.
1380
2:03:16 --> 2:03:20
Oh, well, actually, we've got two people waiting, but anyway, go ahead if you want.
1381
2:03:20 --> 2:03:24
Well, thank you, Curtis.
1382
2:03:24 --> 2:03:31
Okay, this is a chance for me to say, did you have other things you wanted to add before we go to those two other hands up?
1383
2:03:31 --> 2:03:53
Well, I will say that I hope people will visit my Substack, CurtisCosts.substack.com. You can join for free or you can become a paid subscriber. It helps me and I put a lot of time in the materials I put out and it takes a week, two weeks sometimes to compile the material and then put it together for the videos and others.
1384
2:03:53 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction] this information can flow. So if you can join my Substack, I'd be really appreciated.
1385
2:04:00 --> 2:04:16
Sorry to interrupt you. I got here early and I mentioned, I think before you arrived that I just remember the last time you were here, whatever it was you were talking about, it struck me so much that I went to find you on Substack and subscribed.
1386
2:04:16 --> 2:04:18
Oh, fantastic. Thank you.
1387
2:04:18 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction], what was it you were talking about the last time?
1388
2:04:22 --> 2:04:27
I don't remember off the top of my head.
1389
2:04:27 --> 2:04:35
Yeah, and it's just that at a certain point, I started unsubscribing from everything online.
1390
2:04:35 --> 2:04:38
But I think you're doing great work and thank you again.
1391
2:04:38 --> 2:04:50
Thank you. And the other thing is my book, Vaccines Are Dangerous. I can guarantee you, no matter how much you think you know about vaccines, you're going to find new and valuable information and even information that might save your life.
1392
2:04:50 --> 2:05:00
So it's vaccines. www.vaccinesardangerous.blogspot.com has great statistics, graphs, and references.
1393
2:05:00 --> 2:05:08
And it's also a great book to hand to friends and family who they're just very resistant that you can't really convince them.
1394
2:05:08 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction] convinced. Nobody reads my book and walks away thinking they're going to, they want to go out and get a vaccine.
1395
2:05:16 --> 2:05:20
So for what it's worth.
1396
2:05:20 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]ian, otherwise known as Zahriyel, you have three names.
1397
2:05:27 --> 2:05:49
Again, just wanted to give that name. That was Dr. Andreas Nowak, who was researching the graphene oxide or graphene hydroxide and was during one of his live streams that he was actually raided in Germany and the police went in and arrested him, etc.
1398
2:05:49 --> 2:05:54
That was not, however, the reason that everyone thought it was.
1399
2:05:54 --> 2:06:09
But incidentally or not, he was, he actually did die a couple of weeks later after a second life stream, which he did do on graphene hydroxide and that it was a microscopic or a nanoscopic razor blade that went through the system and sliced people up.
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2:06:09 --> 2:06:17
And he died. He died of a heart attack and he had no health issues whatsoever before this incident.
1401
2:06:17 --> 2:06:25
So, yeah, we can all say conspiracy theory, but also say that it is a that he was uncomfortable.
1402
2:06:25 --> 2:06:38
I had a personal friend who also was absolutely healthy and had a wonderful life ahead of him and got turbo cancer and he was not vaxed.
1403
2:06:38 --> 2:06:44
So he was also removed because he became very uncomfortable to the truth during that time.
1404
2:06:44 --> 2:06:49
Didn't Nowak's girlfriend say that he'd been murdered?
1405
2:06:49 --> 2:06:57
Yes, she did. And she thinks it was some form of weapon of directed energy weapon.
1406
2:06:57 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]ly. Yes, I remember that now. So wasn't she present when he was arrested in that?
1407
2:07:04 --> 2:07:07
Am I imagining that? So out of feeling.
1408
2:07:07 --> 2:07:18
I don't know if she was present. I do remember that he was live streaming. It was during the time of of Ryan Fulmey's, you know, his investigative committee also.
1409
2:07:18 --> 2:07:27
So being a German, I was also watching that. So I did see the live stream was on the live stream when he was arrested and it was kind of like, wow.
1410
2:07:28 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]ug issue or a substance abuse issue in the building in which he was living.
1411
2:07:35 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]ory we were told. However, in retrospect, nowadays you really have to question everything.
1412
2:07:41 --> 2:07:43
Absolutely. Yeah.
1413
2:07:43 --> 2:07:51
Charles, we almost wrap you up because I got to be dashing shortly. It's I think over two hours.
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2:07:51 --> 2:07:57
So I think Charles is a bit early in the morning in Melbourne, Australia, Curtis.
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2:07:57 --> 2:08:07
So Charles gets up dutifully at well earlier than five o'clock, but it's five o'clock starts these meetings in Melbourne.
1416
2:08:07 --> 2:08:12
And so I think he falls asleep sometimes. Well, falling asleep now.
1417
2:08:12 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction] of the time, can can you take a question from Jeremy?
1418
2:08:18 --> 2:08:22
Sure. Yeah, two, three quick ones.
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2:08:22 --> 2:08:32
One is what are your views on the use of RNA in veterinary practice, you know, in animals?
1420
2:08:32 --> 2:08:37
And that that seems to be another very worrying developments.
1421
2:08:37 --> 2:08:41
And then two, I heard today talking to a friend.
1422
2:08:42 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]n't seen this, but apparently they're developing some ticks which can affect people and make them effectively allergic to meat.
1423
2:08:53 --> 2:09:05
And apparently Gates has developed a pig which has a has a protein which isn't doesn't prevent doesn't doesn't produce an allergic reaction.
1424
2:09:05 --> 2:09:10
I don't know how true that is. And three, any comment on chemtrails?
1425
2:09:10 --> 2:09:15
I know we're going up. We're going off. I mean, I was out this morning. I'm over in Jersey.
1426
2:09:15 --> 2:09:23
We've had clear blue skies for ages and suddenly, literally, our skies are being crisscrossed at five thirty in the morning.
1427
2:09:23 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction] up early and now we've you know, we've had a cloudy day and the whole lot.
1428
2:09:27 --> 2:09:32
We've just got haze up there and we've it's been noticeable since USI ID was shut down.
1429
2:09:32 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]n't had any we've had clear blue skies throughout the past month, but that could just be hearsay.
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2:09:38 --> 2:09:41
OK, well, aren't our animals that's the main.
1431
2:09:41 --> 2:09:45
Yeah, I appreciate it. These very simple and brief questions to answer.
1432
2:09:45 --> 2:09:49
Yeah, I think our age of chemtrails.
1433
2:09:49 --> 2:09:59
OK, well, I'm really eager to do a book on the vaccines being given to people's pets because it's terrific.
1434
2:09:59 --> 2:10:06
It's terrific. And just on a common sense level, you look at the poisons that they're putting in the vaccines being given to humans.
1435
2:10:06 --> 2:10:13
You can only imagine the harm being done and what's going in the shots for animals.
1436
2:10:13 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]y. Obviously, that's the most.
1437
2:10:16 --> 2:10:26
Yeah, yeah. I was watching just recently some video clips on YouTube of animals afraid of going to the vet.
1438
2:10:26 --> 2:10:32
Literally, they don't want to get in a car. They want to go inside and they're terrified of the needles and things.
1439
2:10:32 --> 2:10:35
And, you know, at first I was like, it's funny.
1440
2:10:35 --> 2:10:41
But then I thought about it. What if these animals sense that what they're being given is poison?
1441
2:10:41 --> 2:10:46
And it is the vaccines from what I've read.
1442
2:10:46 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]n't ended up the research on it yet, but the rates of cancer and other adverse reaction to a person's pet cat or dog, whatever,
1443
2:10:55 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]amatically higher than it was many years ago before they had all these vaccines.
1444
2:10:59 --> 2:11:07
So my advice to pet owners is the same I would give to parents and adults who are considering vaccines.
1445
2:11:07 --> 2:11:12
Don't do it. At the very minimum, do the research and know what's in there.
1446
2:11:12 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]op taking these blind leaps of faith when it comes to medicines.
1447
2:11:18 --> 2:11:21
I mean, this is not a religion. You got to know the facts.
1448
2:11:21 --> 2:11:26
And it's so easy now. When I was doing this research, I had to go to the stacks in the libraries,
1449
2:11:26 --> 2:11:30
the science libraries, and go through all those technical medical journals and things.
1450
2:11:30 --> 2:11:33
Now all you got to do is go to Google and pull it up.
1451
2:11:33 --> 2:11:40
If you want to know what the ingredients of a particular vaccine being given to cats or dogs, just look it up.
1452
2:11:40 --> 2:11:43
Get the name. You can look up the ingredients.
1453
2:11:43 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]ions and then you can make an intelligent decision.
1454
2:11:49 --> 2:11:52
But we could no longer take these blind leaps of faith.
1455
2:11:52 --> 2:11:58
And there's so many parents who took that blind leaps of faith with their own children.
1456
2:11:58 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]ic and suffer all kinds of horrible things.
1457
2:12:03 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]op the blind leaps of faith and do the research.
1458
2:12:08 --> 2:12:14
And I think if you do the research, you're going to walk away not wanting to give any vaccines to your pets.
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2:12:14 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction] been able to do fine for many, many years without vaccines.
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I mean, no other creature needs a vaccine other than humans and domesticated animals.
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I mean, pigeons don't need vaccines. Monkeys, squirrels, sharks, they all can do just fine without vaccines.
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Absolutely. Yeah. So far as...
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Curtis, can I ask, so someone who's having a couple who's having their first baby these days,
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would you say that they shouldn't have any shots whatsoever?
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It's very important, I think, because we all know someone who's having a first child, you know.
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2:12:51 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction] to... Sorry? Sure.
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Based on the research I've done, I'll say no.
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2:12:56 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction], I recommend parents getting a midwife and having the babies at home.
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Because these hospitals are sneaking in and injecting babies and things without the parents' knowledge.
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2:13:10 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]or. You got doctors assigned to it,
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2:13:14 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]ors and nurses around you say, oh, the baby needs this for the survival, da-da-da-da-da.
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It's easy to give in to that kind of pressure.
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2:13:23 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] thing you can do is have your baby at home.
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2:13:27 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction], the way humans have been doing since ever since humans have been on the planet.
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Because there's too many poisons being given.
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2:13:35 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]uffing the baby with those baby formulas, which is bad.
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2:13:40 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] milk should be given to a newborn baby.
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So I think this is my opinion. Everybody's free to do their own research.
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That's what it's really all about. Doing your own research.
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I'm raising issues for people to decide for themselves whether or not they want to vaccinate their child.
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If you want my opinion, look at the title of my book, Vaccines are Dangerous. That's just say it all.
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Chemtrails. Yeah, I remember a number of years ago I was doing a radio interview.
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2:14:07 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction]ion where it was opened up to questions from the general public.
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And a woman came on and asked me about the stuff they're spraying on people in the sky.
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I said, what are you talking about? I thought she was crazy.
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And then I asked her to get her off the line.
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And then, lo and behold, a few weeks later, I started noticing the things she was talking about.
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And it wasn't like contrails. It was contrails of water vapors.
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2:14:35 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction] immediately as the plane goes by at the other tip of the day.
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Chemtrails, the thick lines of clouds, chemical clouds that linger in the sky long periods of time.
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And then they slowly disperse creating a haze in the sky that most people think,
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you confuse with thinking that's natural cloud formations, but it's not.
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What I've read about the contents of the chemtrails is just frightening.
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The heavy metals and things are in there. They've even found human blood cells in the right.
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That's exactly it. I got tons of photos of that. And they're doing it right in front of us. They don't care.
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It was really noticeable today. It was just a grid pattern across the whole sky, five o'clock in the morning.
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Oh, yeah. They do Xs and circles and squares and all kinds of things. They don't care.
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The elite think they were so dumbed down that we'll just tolerate it. And to a degree, they're right.
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I mean, people have been writing about it, but there's been massive protests because this stuff would breathe you in.
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It's getting into our reservoirs. We're drinking it. It's getting into our food supply.
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And it's really frightening to think about the implications of that alone.
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But yeah, in a nutshell, those are my thoughts on your three questions.
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It's too big a question. I do apologize.
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But the RNA in animals, I don't think should be ignored. I think that's really worrying.
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You know, contamination of the food supply as well.
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Yes, yes, definitely.
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Well, Jeremy, despite the fact that they were rather broad, the questions, well, they were quick questions,
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but covering larger areas of knowledge. But someone in the chat thought your questions were brilliant.
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Thank you. Thank you, Curtis.
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Curtis, can I just ask you quickly, do you think there was a pandemic and was there a reliable diagnosis of COVID-19?
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Well, there was a public display of a pandemic, but I think it was a hoax.
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As you know from my previous presentations here, the research that I've done and the various scientists,
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those material I've reviewed indicate that viruses are nonsense.
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There are no viruses. Nobody's ever collected a purified sample of any virus.
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I did an interview with Cheryl Macy, and she actually reached out to over 200 medical facilities, hospitals,
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universities in this country and other countries, asking them if they have a sample of the COVID virus or evidence.
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The answer was no. None of them had it, and none of them could refer her to a medical institution that did have a sample of a COVID virus.
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2:17:17 --> 2:17:[privacy contact redaction] of COVID is just some computer generated nonsense. It's a hoax. It's a scam.
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I've known this for decades because the first person to tell me this literally was an African American woman who was a university professor.
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She told me point blank that viruses were bullshit and that you cannot grow them in a laboratory.
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She was absolutely right. Over the years, I've encountered more and more doctors and scientists who have the courage to publicly step forward and say the same thing.
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There were a number of them who in very small groups or private conversations would admit that viruses was a hoax. It's all a scam.
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They wouldn't do it publicly. They wouldn't risk their careers.
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2:18:03 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]ors and scientists who are coming forward for saying exactly the same thing.
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It's time of a great awakening. I'm thinking about organizing an actual debate on the virus issue.
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The only problem with the debate is we can easily get the people who say viruses don't exist. They're ready to go.
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But the ones who are defending the medical establishment's notion of viruses, they don't want to debate.
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Same thing with vaccines. The ones who defend vaccines, they never want to debate.
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2:18:36 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction] confidence in their positions, they want to debate. They want people to know what they've uncovered.
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The ones who know what they're saying is wrong or suspect is wrong, they never want to debate.
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And I think it's a shame.
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It's a little bit obscured because the people who propagate the no virus, I'm prepared to accept that there's no such thing as a virus.
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2:19:03 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction] That immunology, which kind of knew about the amazing immune system, not just of humans but of all animals,
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and that God didn't need God, if you like, didn't need any help from these stupid vaccines which are created by humans.
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You know, the immunology was replaced by virology and virology was all about creating a construct that's going to be threatened by us human beings by endless deadly pandemics.
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You know, I think the whole thing was a construct.
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2:19:37 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction]ion thing is a construct because we learned at medical school that a deadly virus, if one believes in viruses, kills its host.
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2:19:46 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction]s, it can't spread the COVID-19. You know, if it's deadly or dangerous, it can't spread because...
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Yes. Yeah. And on top of that, basically off of this virus mythology, they've managed to create a multi-trillion dollar global industry from the vaccines, from the antibiotics, from the tests, all these things center around the existence of a mythical virus, which when you look at the data that's out there,
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they falsified laboratory results that claim to have isolated something, which was going to isolate something. Last thing we'll do is start mixing other things with it, which is exactly what they would do when they put these things into the petri dishes.
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2:20:39 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction]arve the material that's there. So the material that's left over, that's what they call it viruses, instead of just dead, stale material, which is what it was.
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Yeah, they've created a multi-trillion dollar industry off of this myth. And the only reason it continues is that, you know, you don't hear the mainstream media talking about it.
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2:21:02 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction]ed to groups like this and others that are out there, they're not going to get this information. But it has nothing to do with the lack of science.
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I mean, we have plenty of scientists and plenty of hardcore data showing that there are no viruses. And you can explain somebody getting sick by, you know, their diet, their exercise routine, how much sunlight they're getting, simple things.
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And we also, I also documented in my book, Vaccines are Dangerous, that these vaccines did not save the world from viruses. I mean, from measles and things, because all of these diseases from which vaccines were later developed had declined in some cases as much as 90% in the early 1900s to 60 before the vaccine came on the market.
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And that's right. Nothing to do with any virus or any vaccines. And everything to do with improvements in sanitation and nutrition. You know, as they did a better job with sanitation, you know, sanitation systems, you remove trash from the streets, sewer systems, things of that nature, water filtration systems.
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Well, the environment naturally became cleaner. And as they built more roads and highways and things, more fresh fruits and vegetables and getting to the cities. So people's immune system became stronger.
1548
2:22:23 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction]e variables, improvements in sanitation and improvements in nutrition accounted for the declines of these various diseases forced to develop vaccines by as much as 90% or more before the vaccine came on the market.
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But there's no money in that. There's no money in people keeping the environment clean and eating apples and things. All kinds of money made from people taking toxic injections.
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2:22:49 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction] money comes from the adverse reactions you'll suffer from the vaccine. It's like five, 10 times greater amount of money that they make from treating the adverse reactions they do from the initial vaccine.
1551
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So, no, I don't believe in viruses or COVID or anything like that.
1552
2:23:07 --> 2:23:15
So, Curtis, you know about AIDS and HIV. Was AIDS, in your opinion, was AIDS a false diagnosis?
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Well, yes. I mean, it's not been well documented. They were what they were defining as AIDS initially was two conditions that were affecting homosexual males, promiscuous homosexual males.
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One was pneumocytosis, queen pneumonia, and the other was the skin cancer called carposalcoma.
1555
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Yes, that's right. And those that's where was the definition of AIDS. But what most people didn't know at that time was that it wasn't just homosexual males.
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It was very promiscuous homosexual males who were having multiple partners in a given week, and that caused a lot of trauma to the colon area.
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And to alleviate that trauma, they were taking a drug called poppers.
1558
2:24:02 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction] so happens, among the symptoms of poppers was pneumocytosis, we need pneumonia and carposalcoma. The exact same two symptoms that define AIDS.
1559
2:24:13 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction]ug related condition, there's no money in that.
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But there's plenty of money to say, well, this is not just limited to gays, gay men. It's a heterosexual disease that can be transmitted by a virus.
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And they came up with a bogus, Dr. Gallo with a bogus test, claiming that it could show somebody had a virus and had this virus, which was all bogus and disproven.
1562
2:24:42 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction] that they eventually started using a PCR test, Dr. Kerry Mullis, a Nobel Prize winner for his invention of PCR.
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He's probably come out and stated multiple times on camera that his invention was never meant to be used as a test for a viral infection.
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2:25:03 --> 2:25:[privacy contact redaction]ess.
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Right. Right. And so he's the one that's why, you know, people suspect he was killed shortly before the COVID outbreak, because if he was alive, he would have been all over the air wasting.
1566
2:25:17 --> 2:25:20
No, no, no, you can't be using my PCR.
1567
2:25:20 --> 2:25:25
Yeah. So, Curtis, I think he had to be dead by January 2020.
1568
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Yes. Yes. Yeah. Ultimately.
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So I think there's a strong possibility. I think that that's one death that needs to be investigated now.
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Yes. Yes, definitely.
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Very good. Thank you so much for talking to us, Curtis.
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2:25:39 --> 2:25:[privacy contact redaction]easure. Thank you. And it's always an honor. And have a good evening.
