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I talked to Evgeny earlier today, it was like talking to Leo Tolstoy.
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Well done.
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And so, Karam, thank you for helping Stephen organise Evgeny.
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So well done, good job.
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Alright everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for Covid Ethics International.
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In today's discussion, this group was founded by Dr Stephen Frost over three years ago with
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a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.
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His medical specialty is radiology.
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I'm Charles Covess, the moderator of this group.
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I've practiced law for 20 years before changing career 31 years ago.
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We comprise lots of professions here and we're for all around the world.
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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.
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Now many of us proudly say yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers.
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And feel free to introduce yourself in the chat and where you're from.
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a book, put the links into the chat so we can follow you, promote you and find you.
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debate is only one of [privacy contact redaction] World War.
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There's no time to be tired.
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I assess we're four years into a seven year war.
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So we've got plenty of work to do.
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Some of us believe that viruses are a hoax and some of us are on the fence.
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And many of us consider that having a debate on that topic is a misleading one in the context
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of the threats that we face.
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This meeting runs for two and a half hours afterwards.
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For those with the time, Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting.
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Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join.
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There's a free speech environment with appropriate moderating.
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Free speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human freedoms.
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If you're offended by anything, be offended.
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Fear is the opposite of love.
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Fear squashes you.
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Love, on the other hand, expands you.
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attendees in these meetings.
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details into the chat.
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And we're now delighted to welcome our guest presenter today, Evgeny Legodin.
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And let me tell you a little bit about him.
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Evgeny can tell me that.
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Now called Yekaterinburg.
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It's the same city where Boris Yeltsin came from.
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He was in the Soviet army for a year, studied medical school for six further years and after
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graduating, specialised for one year in infectious disease unit and then worked for 10 years
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for a pharmaceutical company.
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Since the Second Chechen War, he's been in opposition to the government organising protests
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in support of human rights.
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In 2011, he left Russia due to criminal prosecution and arrived in the UK.
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He had a basic knowledge of English, but learnt in an intensive way for one year, passing
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In 2015, he moved to Scotland to work as a junior doctor.
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He chose Scotland under the influence of two novels by Walter Scott.
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He was re-reading them prior to his application.
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He worked in Elgin where Macbeth killed King Duncan.
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In Inverness, the location of some Walter Scott's novels.
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Now he's in Glasgow, the most Soviet town in the UK, according to Evgeny.
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Evgeny has been training in psychiatry in the UK where he discovered a tremendous amount
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Evgeny is passionate about reading and you can almost always find him relaxing with a
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book.
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He has compiled an ever-evolving list of the [privacy contact redaction] read and re-read.
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Today he would like to talk about one of them.
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We welcome you Evgeny and we thank you again Stephen Frost for creating this group and
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for organizing Evgeny to be with us today and Karam for the help that you've given
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Stephen in organizing Evgeny.
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Evgeny, we are in your hands.
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You muted Evgeny.
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Is it Evgeny or Yevgeny?
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Like yes, Evgeny.
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There is a Y, yeah, okay, very good.
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different even continents.
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Nothing to add to my career and all the time I am contemplating about actually can art,
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can books, can good literature influence your life?
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In psychiatry I am on the psychological side of psychiatry.
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One of them we call them biological who think that, oh, something wrong with our brains,
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it's chemical imbalance, let's give this chemical and everyone will be happy.
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Psychiatric Network where we think that all severe, all extreme psychological distress
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which can present with voices or change in mood, down mood or manner, it's actually
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a result of life adversities, especially childhood adversities.
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between the parents, what were relationship with the siblings, what was going on in nursery,
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in school, etc., etc.
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Because I believe that the person is a product of the environment and family.
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And that's why I am always thinking in what extent the books we read influence our life
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decisions.
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And in my own experience I think that it happened several times.
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So, there was already mention in this thing where I was in 2014 making a decision where
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to continue my medical training in the UK.
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At this time I was living in County Durham and I was going to apply for training program
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But at the same time for some coincidence I was reading these two novels and one of
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I've never been in Scotland before.
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So, I wasn't keen to go to Scotland, maybe apart from city Glasgow where I was keen to
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see houses designed by Charles-René Macintosh who I believe influenced modern architecture.
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And the landscape I was thinking I got in Russia the same as well because I am from
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Ural mountain and it's also mountainous area with lochs.
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The only difference that we got more snow than in Scotland.
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But when I read these two novels...
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So, back to these novels.
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And when I read these Walter Scott novels I just saw a similarity between the characters
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I thought like they are more open-hearted.
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oh wow I will move from England and I will never return.
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placement.
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And then I was looking for...
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I was choosing between different cities.
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So the choice was between south of Scotland, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Elgin.
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small hospital there.
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And also it's a historic place where real Macbeth killed real King Duncan.
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So it's like sort of literary place.
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And I've never regretted.
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So and there I meet my friend Karam Sassam.
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All the time...
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Sorry Karam for speaking out that.
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And I say that the knowledge or things they don't come from Twitter.
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They come from books, from reading books.
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All the time when he is telling me something I'm asking him Karam if it's not a scientific
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Where this idea comes from.
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Because again I don't think that we can build our knowledge just on short messages in Twitter.
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So we need to read the books and because the books allow us to create some sort of picture
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of this world in the head.
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in our head our perception and different angles and etc.
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So and I was pushing Karam to push him like all the time that Karam you need to read some
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great books.
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And Karam told me I think it was 2015 or [privacy contact redaction]
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How many books Karam do you want?
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Like 5, 10?
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I think he said like 50.
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I said no.
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Okay let's do it 100.
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100.
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Maybe I will remove one title and add another one.
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texts.
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Because so many great books written in the last like 4,000 years in different continents
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The life is very short.
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We cannot we cannot like read everything so we need to choose.
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It's like for example with the with the Emile Zalat the French writer who is in my list
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and I left there only two novels.
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Germinal and Thérèse Racane.
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Thérèse Racane by the way was one of the first book Karam read from this list.
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But Emile Zalat he wrote a lot of great novels.
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But again we cannot read all of them.
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So and all the time I am like tempted not to go beyond this list.
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But do you know what has happened recently at my work?
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So with my colleague we were discussing literature and I asked like what you are reading now?
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And she said oh I am reading Emile Zalat I am reading Asanfar.
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In English translation it's called The Trap.
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So the novel that I never encountered and she said oh this lady doctor she said like
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oh I hate this book it's like horrible you can't get like into the head of the people
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So but I was intrigued because in my experience from other novels by this writer I was thinking
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that it's impossible because Zalat he was one of the best writers in 19th century
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and how they were feeling.
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And this is like the favorite bit of psychiatry.
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And on my return home I took the I found the copy on the internet of this novel
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and I read it and I thought oh my god it's another masterpiece of Zalat.
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What to do?
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Because I knew that I will definitely read it.
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And all the time again with Karam I am saying Karam apart from carefully choosing the books
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for reading we also need to reread them.
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I don't believe just in reading.
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Why I'm thinking that?
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because of your life experience.
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You're sort of drawing slightly different picture.
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It's in a way it's like Hamlet where you got the piece by Shakespeare
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but different theaters they present their adaptations and their movies.
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So it can happen as well with a book.
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And I recall with Walter Scott whom I mentioned today that 10 years ago I reread I Wenhol
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which I read when I was like 12.
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to read this thick book with a serious topics and a lot of historical background.
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What was the name of the book?
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I Wenhol.
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I Wenhol.
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Ivan Ho.
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Ivan Ho.
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Yes so we'll have to help you with the pronunciation Evgeny.
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So and then I thought that no it's not a child book it's an adult book
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and as a professional reader I can see a lot of stuff
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and sometimes it could be amusing where Walter Scott describes
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the garment or armory on some person in totally dark room
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and you're thinking like but on earth how can you see what was the color of his like I don't know
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of his shirt etc etc.
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And then some of the books in the reading again you appreciate that actually they are adult
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and Three Musketeers I think which I read around like 10 or 11
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it was the book that where I learned what is love
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what is loyalty what is friendship
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and I think it's one of the greatest book in this respect
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and all the time if I'm thinking about something doing something
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I'm thinking about myself and comparing them with the characters from this book
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or from other books so it's sort of I have some sort of moral code
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which comes from these books I won't slightly deviating from the topic of this list
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So I think it was some sort of pandemic or epidemic which started after October revolution in 1917
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because before Bolsheviks before Lenin before Trotsky before Stalin
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so and when revolution happened during the civil war when the country was just surviving
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the Russian writer Gorky met Lenin and he said that the main thing revolution should do is
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and the second one we need to translate the best literature of the world into Russian language
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we need to translate it and to commission it to the great Russian writers and poets like Pasternak or Akhmatova
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and we need to publish them
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wait who is the second one in?
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Akhmatova, Akhmatova
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so she was a lady poet and
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was she in India?
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no no no she was a Russian poet
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sorry yes
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so when you enter the main entrance of national gallery there is a mosaics there
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mosaics made maybe like in late 20s and 30s and there are allegorical figures on the floor
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so one of them I think it's called compassion or passion
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she was one of the we can say four main poets although we have hundreds of them great poets
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Hamlet, Hinley, Romeo and Juliet, Anthony and Cleopatra, Othello, Henry IV, two parts
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before revolution after revolution here's translations how to come what to say about them
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it's like Shakespeare speaking in Russian
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it's a poet who speaks in Russian and it's like a live Shakespeare
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because for modern British the text and the verses of Shakespeare slightly outdated
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and it's a language of Russian golden age of poetry
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and so that was his contribution into world culture that he sort of opened the door
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for Russian, for Soviet citizens for great achievements in literature, fiction and poetry
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and the same heroic deed was done by other poets
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it's just some sort of black and white copy from the original
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they cannot recreate like the spirit, the spirit of the work
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and with their literal translation they actually destroys the poetry
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what's published in like in France
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so they were reading that and trying to find the pearls in all these things that are published
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where they carefully choose 200 to publish in 200 volumes
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so we got epic of Gilgamesh, some pieces of Bible, ancient Indian poetry
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ancient Chinese poetry, ancient even there are pieces there from ancient
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I think Babylon, Shumer from these countries
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and it goes chronologically through different continents to our time to 20th century
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and they compiled that in 200 volumes
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where you got ancient times, ancient Rome, ancient Greece, ancient China
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then we go to middle ages Europe and Japan, India, Vietnam, Korea
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and through the middle ages they go to Renaissance period
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in Europe, Italy, Spain, Britain, also ancient Russian literature
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and then 17th century, 18th century, 19th century, 20th century
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so apart from Russian classics which we already know
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there is no need to translate them
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apart maybe from the old songs composed like 1000 years ago
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so we got the world literature
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and since then I think
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and this was like in the blood of our families in school
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so in school there was a compulsory program for my grandparents
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and for my parents and for myself
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we got foreign literature
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so there was foreign literature, Russian literature
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it's year by year
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so you need to read them during summer holidays
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so you got three months
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and before your summer vacations you got a list
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it's just in the end of your textbook
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that for the next year you need to read
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and when I was I think 13
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you need to read Donkey Hot
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to volumes
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and you need to read Crime and Punishment
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so the next year when I was 13
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and that's in Russian
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it's published in two separate volumes
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it's like a huge book
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that when I was even in the nursery
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so I was 5 or 6
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which is an adult book
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they took two episodes about Little Girl Gazette
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or Gavros
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so I read it already at this age
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they spend a lot of money
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not a lot of money
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they make a lot of effort to create home libraries
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where they got books
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and also there was a thing where
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we were borrowing books from the neighbors
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or they were borrowing books from us
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and essentially we were reading the same books
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I was reading the same books at school
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as my parents were reading
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and as my grandparents
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and it goes to the level
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to such extent in Russia
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that quite often
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and Eugene Anabas
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or Eugene Anagen or Eugene Anagen by Pushkin
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they are some sort of members of your family
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and sometimes as a joke
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the members of your family
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they give you different names
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or in a school you give nicknames
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or you got nicknames
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it's like very funny
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because the family and the schools
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they correspond to some
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so it's like a fun where
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my father he was calling me
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Pierre Bezouhov
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so this like person from War and Peace
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who is like in glasses
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Pierre Bezouhov
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and at school
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although I was Yevgeny
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but some called me
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with the name Pichorin
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and I think Anagen is like misanthropic character
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sort of romantic hero from Lermontov novel
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A Hero of Our Time
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I've read that
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and it shows that there are no boundaries
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because Lermontov himself
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he is of Scottish origin
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like to serve Russian tsars
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and in some of his novels
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when you read now
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you can see the influence of Walter Scott
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German Romantics
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writers
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it was sort of a small sis between liturgies
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today when I will talk about Don Quixote before that
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I want to mention this thing
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how the things go through the time
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and that's the importance of reading
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especially old classics
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and I'm talking about this like standard list
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Yevgeny
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we talked today
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and what really impressed me
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you said that
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that society was atomised
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but everywhere
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and it was deliberately done
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but the point was that you said
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if you read the great classics
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so you said now
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as their grandparents
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that meant they had something to talk about
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going on the internet
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and then going into rabbit holes
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and getting into cults
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and echo chambers
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but in Russia it seems that somebody
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if you like
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was to kind of get everybody to read the classics
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and the grandparents
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as happens in
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they've taken it away from us
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and that's what we need to reverse
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I think
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I think
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but I think it's just a byproduct of classical education
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it was in France
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maybe in Britain
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so it's not only like Russian experience
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but it's like in Russia
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gave money
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to poets
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and great Russian writers
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created in Europe
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created in India
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created in Japan
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in China
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or writers they suffer
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how much money they will earn from selling their books
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for doing this job
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by Dante into Russian
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was done by the poet
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so he was a poet himself
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and he spent I think
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and he finished the work
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and published it in 1950
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to translate this piece of work
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he obviously read and knew everything
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that Dante could read and touch
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he looked into all the commentaries
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and he recreated this thing
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in a poetry
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so in Russian it's not a Prasek translation
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it's something like Dante reciting his tussens
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in Russian
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so going back to this thing
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this thing we see now
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with the internet
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and also with the appearance of popular culture
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when the society is atomized
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it's like a by-product
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and this thing when we are reading the same book in Russia
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oh, Stephen disappeared
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so it was a by-product
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it wasn't a purpose
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why Gorky went to Lenin
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because I believe Gorky like myself
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if they know these treasures well literature
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I think that was the purpose
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and he was a writer himself
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so he knew that
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it's a pity that these treasures are sort of hidden
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so it was some sort of
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enlightening thing
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because from great books we can learn a lot of things
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and they hope that in our age
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where everyone
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again the society became atomized
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where we create
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they create sort of niches
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the novels for ladies
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so everything is atomized
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they read them to the point that
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actually when they meet somebody
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they find out that nobody read that
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nobody
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and they discuss things like Game of Thrones
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I mean TV series
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not even the book Game of Thrones
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I read War and Peace when I was 18
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I've only met about
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in my life
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yeah so that's the point
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all the population of the Soviet Union
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in all these republics
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it was compulsory reading in their school
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but at the same time
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apart from War and Peace
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there was a great medieval poem
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so he was a Georgian poet
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I think in 13th century
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and he wrote something in verse
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which is no worse
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and this thing in the Soviet Union
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it was translated from Georgian to Russian
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so it was translated into all languages
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in the Soviet Union
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so it was some sort of enrichment of the culture
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I think John Lukacs who's a podcaster
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he was asking me
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why I read War and Peace
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can you tell him why everyone should read War and Peace?
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I think it's
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I'm struggling to answer this question
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because there are personal reasons why I read
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and I'm thinking like what should I tell you
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why you should read
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why I read and reread it
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so for me it's like rewatching a movie
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it's like a DVD I put in my head
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so I'm just rewatching and seeing the same things
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0:37:04 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction] to some other writers
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he managed, of all the writers I think
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0:37:16 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction]ure the flow of the time
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0:37:19 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction]s and the description in the scenes
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it's just exactly like a script
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where it's in a normal temp of tempering of our life
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0:37:30 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction]oevsky
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where quite often the scenes are in sort of accelerated
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0:37:38 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction]erical movement
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0:37:40 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction] accelerated
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0:37:42 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction]
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who slowed the time
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0:37:48 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction] chased the train of the thoughts
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going from him, recalling his summer vacation
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with his aunt or grandmother
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so there are opposites
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0:38:01 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction]oy I think
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0:38:03 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction]
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he didn't like Shakespeare by the way
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0:38:10 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction]erics
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stuff unnatural
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it's like very weird theater or opera
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but he didn't like it
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but he wanted some sort of to represent reality
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the reality of time
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and relationships in literature
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there is another thing
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0:38:30 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction]ers are
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they are like human
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0:38:34 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction] their flaws
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0:38:36 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction] parts
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and also there is an element
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like Hitchcockian element
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0:38:42 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction]ova
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0:38:44 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction]ers
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so she got a fiancé
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who is a decent person
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and she wants to marry him
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but he wants to check your feelings
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0:38:54 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction] you like one year
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0:38:57 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction] free
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and in this one year
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0:39:01 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]el
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with whom she abscondes from the house
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0:39:06 --> 0:39:07
so she elopes from the house with this guy
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0:39:08 --> 0:39:09
and you're thinking
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oh my god
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0:39:12 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]upid lady
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0:39:14 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]upid girl
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0:39:16 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction] done
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you ruined everything
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but it shows that this is life
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nothing is ideal
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this is like real life
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0:39:26 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]rong moments there
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in the book
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which
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like a mixture of everything
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it's like anecdote about Russian
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how it was in our school
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in the school we need to read totally
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in totality
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both books
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but there is like a joke, an anecdote
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that the teacher in the school
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say like
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okay boys you read war parts
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but it's a joke
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because in this book
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you cannot separate them
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yeah surely you can find
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the description of the battles
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of philosophy about Napoleon
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0:40:07 --> 0:40:08
and it comprises like a whole universe
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do you know
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there are books that comprise the universe
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Brother Karamazov's
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0:40:15 --> 0:40:16
War and Peace like that
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0:40:17 --> 0:40:18
and again these books
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they are not for reading
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0:40:21 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ot
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they are to enjoy the scene
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it's like the favorite song
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or the favorite poem
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0:40:29 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]
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0:40:31 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction] these feelings
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0:40:33 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]op
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0:40:35 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ova
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0:40:37 --> 0:40:38
but you cannot
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because she is doing that
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yeah
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0:40:44 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]er Natasha
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yeah
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yeah
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I was 18
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yeah
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so
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if you allow me to
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0:41:00 --> 0:41:01
I need to turn the light
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0:41:02 --> 0:41:03
because it's already slightly dark
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0:41:04 --> 0:41:05
in Glasgow BISEC
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0:41:06 --> 0:41:07
yeah sure
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0:41:14 --> 0:41:15
so and now
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0:41:16 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction] want to
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to go to the book
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0:41:20 --> 0:41:21
that I wanted like sort of to sell you
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0:41:22 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction]n't read it
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0:41:24 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction] a chat in this Zoom meeting
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0:41:28 --> 0:41:29
and
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I was thinking today
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for the audience
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0:41:36 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction]e write their sort of
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five top books they take on an inhabited island
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0:41:42 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction] imagine this is the end of civilization
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0:41:44 --> 0:41:47
this is something like 451 Fahrenheit
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0:41:48 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction]royed
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0:41:50 --> 0:41:51
all books are banned
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0:41:52 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction] only like five books somehow
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0:41:54 --> 0:41:55
like you preserved them
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0:41:56 --> 0:41:57
and you want to preserve them for humanity for yourself
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0:41:58 --> 0:41:59
so
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you'd like people to put that in the chat would you
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0:42:02 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction] of their five books
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0:42:04 --> 0:42:05
that they will reread
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0:42:06 --> 0:42:07
reread and like preserve
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0:42:08 --> 0:42:11
so and I want to bring into discussion this book
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0:42:12 --> 0:42:14
so this is one of the English translations
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0:42:15 --> 0:42:16
Don Quixote
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0:42:17 --> 0:42:19
the book that celebrated
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0:42:20 --> 0:42:21
wait a minute
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0:42:22 --> 0:42:23
let's just make sure everybody heard that
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0:42:24 --> 0:42:25
so everybody on the call
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0:42:26 --> 0:42:27
well obviously not everybody is going to do it
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0:42:28 --> 0:42:29
because they're all rebels
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0:42:30 --> 0:42:31
which is good
733
0:42:32 --> 0:42:35
but if you could put your favorite five books in the chat
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0:42:36 --> 0:42:37
those who wish to do so
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0:42:38 --> 0:42:39
no compulsion
736
0:42:41 --> 0:42:44
oh we've got an eminent publisher here
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0:42:45 --> 0:42:46
I'd like to see his choices
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0:42:47 --> 0:42:48
yeah
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0:42:49 --> 0:42:51
and again
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0:42:52 --> 0:42:55
when I'm talking about the list of the books
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0:42:56 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction]s say like is it culturally important
742
0:42:59 --> 0:43:01
because some books influence other books
743
0:43:02 --> 0:43:05
it means that to appreciate some books
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0:43:06 --> 0:43:07
you need to know other books
745
0:43:08 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]e of Don Quixote
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0:43:10 --> 0:43:11
how I go from this book to another book
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0:43:12 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]ion
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0:43:15 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]s I want to
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and why I chose Don Quixote apart from
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0:43:21 --> 0:43:22
from my opinions
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0:43:23 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction] books
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0:43:25 --> 0:43:26
and as you know also it's a bestseller
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0:43:27 --> 0:43:28
apart from Bible
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0:43:29 --> 0:43:30
I think they counted that
755
0:43:31 --> 0:43:32
it was published in different countries
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0:43:33 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction] 400 years
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0:43:35 --> 0:43:36
more than
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0:43:37 --> 0:43:38
so it's the second place after Bible
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0:43:40 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]s about the writer
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0:43:44 --> 0:43:46
and this is obviously
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0:43:47 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]a
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0:43:50 --> 0:43:55
so we don't know too much about his life
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0:43:56 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]e didn't bother
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0:44:00 --> 0:44:03
and if we find something in the archives
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0:44:04 --> 0:44:07
it could be some notary notice
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0:44:08 --> 0:44:10
or information about somebody
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0:44:11 --> 0:44:12
it could relate to our
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0:44:12 --> 0:44:13
Miguel Cervantes
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0:44:14 --> 0:44:15
or it can relate to another one
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0:44:16 --> 0:44:17
who is Miguel Cervantes
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0:44:18 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]e in Spain they found a note
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0:44:21 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]id
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0:44:25 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]id at the age of 23
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0:44:29 --> 0:44:30
after Duel after killing somebody on Duel
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0:44:31 --> 0:44:32
so we don't know
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0:44:33 --> 0:44:34
was it our Cervantes or was it somebody else
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0:44:35 --> 0:44:38
but we know definitely that our Cervantes
778
0:44:39 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction] probably was born in the middle
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0:44:41 --> 0:44:42
of 16th century
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0:44:43 --> 0:44:45
not too much information about his parents
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0:44:46 --> 0:44:48
but possibly his father was a surgeon
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0:44:49 --> 0:44:50
possibly
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0:44:51 --> 0:44:54
and Cervantes he got good education
784
0:44:55 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]udied in the university
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0:44:57 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]id
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0:44:59 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction] where he was born
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0:45:01 --> 0:45:04
and then at certain age
788
0:45:05 --> 0:45:07
he went into the army
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0:45:08 --> 0:45:09
so he decided
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0:45:10 --> 0:45:11
to be a soldier of fortune
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0:45:12 --> 0:45:13
and at this time
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0:45:15 --> 0:45:18
in Europe there was a huge war
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0:45:19 --> 0:45:22
between Turkish Empire, Ottoman Empire and Europe
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0:45:23 --> 0:45:26
so if you Google in internet
795
0:45:27 --> 0:45:29
Ottoman Empire in different years
796
0:45:30 --> 0:45:31
you can see a map where in different colors
797
0:45:32 --> 0:45:33
they show how it grew
798
0:45:34 --> 0:45:35
so it grew to the point that
799
0:45:36 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction] beside Vienna
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0:45:40 --> 0:45:43
so and at this point
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0:45:44 --> 0:45:45
in the middle of 16th century
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0:45:46 --> 0:45:49
some European countries were so worried
803
0:45:50 --> 0:45:52
that they organized like a mutual campaign
804
0:45:53 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]ed Campaign
805
0:45:55 --> 0:46:00
Pope in Rome, Spanish King, money from Genoa
806
0:46:01 --> 0:46:04
and Cervantes joined them
807
0:46:05 --> 0:46:07
and he was serving on one of the ships
808
0:46:08 --> 0:46:10
that participated in the famous battle
809
0:46:11 --> 0:46:12
this one
810
0:46:15 --> 0:46:18
and this battle happened off shore Greece
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0:46:20 --> 0:46:21
Lepanto
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0:46:23 --> 0:46:25
so and in this battle
813
0:46:26 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]ed forces of Europe
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0:46:30 --> 0:46:31
so they defeated Turks
815
0:46:32 --> 0:46:35
but Cervantes he got severe injuries
816
0:46:36 --> 0:46:37
he got three gunshot wounds
817
0:46:39 --> 0:46:42
and to the extent that
818
0:46:43 --> 0:46:46
the nerve was damaged in his left arm
819
0:46:47 --> 0:46:49
and it was paralyzed since then
820
0:46:50 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction] of his life
821
0:46:53 --> 0:46:56
in some somewhere Cervantes wrote
822
0:46:57 --> 0:46:58
in one of his books
823
0:46:59 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ions
824
0:47:02 --> 0:47:05
the loss of his left arm was compensated
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0:47:06 --> 0:47:07
with his right hand
826
0:47:08 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction] that he was a writer
827
0:47:11 --> 0:47:13
so after these troubles
828
0:47:14 --> 0:47:16
after his recovery which took a lot of time
829
0:47:17 --> 0:47:19
he was doing some small jobs
830
0:47:20 --> 0:47:23
and at some point he went from Italy
831
0:47:24 --> 0:47:26
to Barcelona on a ship
832
0:47:27 --> 0:47:28
and at this time
833
0:47:29 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction] in Mediterranean Sea
834
0:47:35 --> 0:47:36
there were a lot of pirates
835
0:47:37 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ly of them
836
0:47:39 --> 0:47:41
they were from Northern Africa
837
0:47:42 --> 0:47:43
from Algeria
838
0:47:44 --> 0:47:45
from this area
839
0:47:46 --> 0:47:48
not necessary that there were Arabs
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0:47:49 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]
841
0:47:51 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ians or Europeans
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0:47:54 --> 0:47:55
who converted Islam
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0:47:56 --> 0:47:57
because that was the spread
844
0:47:58 --> 0:47:59
initial of caliphates
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0:48:00 --> 0:48:01
and then of Turkish Empire
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0:48:02 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]uring
847
0:48:04 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]lers in the Mediterranean
848
0:48:07 --> 0:48:08
and then they were demanding ransom
849
0:48:09 --> 0:48:10
from their relatives
850
0:48:11 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ured Cervantes
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0:48:15 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]igo
852
0:48:17 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] for five years
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0:48:20 --> 0:48:24
in the North Africa
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0:48:25 --> 0:48:29
so and there are like lucky coincidences always
855
0:48:30 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] of all he is lucky that he hasn't been killed
856
0:48:33 --> 0:48:34
in this battle
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0:48:35 --> 0:48:36
that he survived
858
0:48:37 --> 0:48:38
it's a great luck
859
0:48:39 --> 0:48:40
another one when he was on this ship
860
0:48:41 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ured
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0:48:43 --> 0:48:44
there were recommendation letters
862
0:48:45 --> 0:48:48
I think from the Vice King of Napoli
863
0:48:49 --> 0:48:50
something like that
864
0:48:51 --> 0:48:53
and these pirates they thought that
865
0:48:53 --> 0:48:54
he is an important figure
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0:48:55 --> 0:48:56
that they need to get from him
867
0:48:57 --> 0:48:58
like huge ransom
868
0:48:59 --> 0:49:02
and they didn't touch him
869
0:49:03 --> 0:49:04
tried to preserve him
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0:49:05 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] them
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0:49:07 --> 0:49:08
a lot of money they will get from him
872
0:49:09 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] to other prisoners who were easily
873
0:49:12 --> 0:49:14
executed, impaled, tortured
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0:49:15 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ay five years in prison
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0:49:19 --> 0:49:21
it wasn't actually a prison
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0:49:21 --> 0:49:22
you can find on the internet
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0:49:23 --> 0:49:24
how this prison looks like
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0:49:25 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] or a pit
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0:49:28 --> 0:49:29
where they were kept
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0:49:30 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] his state
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0:49:33 --> 0:49:34
his health you know
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0:49:35 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ayed there
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0:49:38 --> 0:49:43
and he organized four attempts to abscond
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0:49:44 --> 0:49:45
to escape four attempts
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0:49:47 --> 0:49:50
I know about one of these escapes
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0:49:51 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] participated
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0:49:55 --> 0:49:56
because he was an organizer
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0:49:57 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]e
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0:49:59 --> 0:50:01
who ruled this area they knew that he is an organizer
890
0:50:02 --> 0:50:03
he is a leader
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0:50:04 --> 0:50:06
actually they executed all these guys
892
0:50:07 --> 0:50:09
but they let Cervantes alive
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0:50:10 --> 0:50:14
eventually his family managed to get all this money
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0:50:15 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ivity
895
0:50:17 --> 0:50:18
so he returned back to Spain
896
0:50:18 --> 0:50:22
and at some time he was working as a tax collector
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0:50:23 --> 0:50:24
and again misfortune
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0:50:25 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] that potentially somebody
899
0:50:29 --> 0:50:31
harassed him and accused him of something
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0:50:32 --> 0:50:35
so and when there was this suspicion that he stole
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0:50:36 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ion
902
0:50:38 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]id several months
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0:50:43 --> 0:50:47
so and there he began to write a book
904
0:50:48 --> 0:50:49
Don Quixote
905
0:50:50 --> 0:50:51
so prior to that
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0:50:52 --> 0:50:54
prior to that he already wrote one small novel
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0:50:55 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]oral novel
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0:50:57 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ays
909
0:51:01 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ays which didn't survive
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0:51:04 --> 0:51:07
at this time it's like Shakespeare
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0:51:08 --> 0:51:09
Shakespeare he never like
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0:51:10 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ays
913
0:51:13 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] things he wrote
914
0:51:16 --> 0:51:17
they performed several times
915
0:51:18 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ay
916
0:51:20 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] from Shakespeare
917
0:51:23 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]afts of his colleagues
918
0:51:26 --> 0:51:27
who kept these sort of things
919
0:51:28 --> 0:51:29
which they recalled or put down
920
0:51:30 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ays of Cervantes survived
921
0:51:35 --> 0:51:38
he was very good in writing poetry
922
0:51:39 --> 0:51:44
when the wife of the Spanish king died
923
0:51:44 --> 0:51:47
Philip II, the second was the king at this time
924
0:51:48 --> 0:51:49
so there was a competition
925
0:51:50 --> 0:51:52
poetical competition to write
926
0:51:53 --> 0:51:54
The Beautiful Sonnets on Her Death
927
0:51:55 --> 0:51:56
so he got the prize for that
928
0:51:57 --> 0:51:58
so he was a poet
929
0:51:59 --> 0:52:01
so he tried himself in different genres
930
0:52:02 --> 0:52:05
he tried himself to write poetry, drama
931
0:52:06 --> 0:52:10
but there are other great guys who were working at this time
932
0:52:11 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction] show maybe several books and mention that
933
0:52:14 --> 0:52:17
so in theater at this time
934
0:52:18 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ay writers like Lope de Vega
935
0:52:22 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ays
936
0:52:25 --> 0:52:26
400 survived
937
0:52:27 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction] called Tifso de Molina
938
0:52:31 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ama about Don Juan or Don Juan
939
0:52:37 --> 0:52:39
so that's the origin of this thing
940
0:52:40 --> 0:52:42
which went later into European literature
941
0:52:42 --> 0:52:44
Don Juan, this character
942
0:52:45 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]o Calderon
943
0:52:47 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction] was a philosopher and a play writer and a poet
944
0:52:52 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction] time
945
0:52:55 --> 0:52:56
and if you manage to find
946
0:52:57 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ay by Calderon
947
0:52:59 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]eam
948
0:53:03 --> 0:53:08
it's fantastic, it's something on the level of Hamlet, of Shakespeare
949
0:53:08 --> 0:53:11
poetical, philosophical at the same time
950
0:53:12 --> 0:53:15
it's some sort of drama about matrix
951
0:53:16 --> 0:53:18
where we live, do we live in reality, do we live in dream
952
0:53:19 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ing funny plot there
953
0:53:22 --> 0:53:24
so then there were
954
0:53:25 --> 0:53:27
Evgeny, what was the name of that one?
955
0:53:28 --> 0:53:29
so that was Calderon
956
0:53:30 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction] a second I will show you the book
957
0:53:32 --> 0:53:33
a second
958
0:53:38 --> 0:53:46
I can't find it now
959
0:53:47 --> 0:53:48
sorry
960
0:53:57 --> 0:53:58
yeah
961
0:53:59 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]rated as well?
962
0:54:01 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]rations there
963
0:54:05 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] you got Evgeny?
964
0:54:08 --> 0:54:11
less than [privacy contact redaction]ion
965
0:54:12 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]icates like the same play by Shakespeare in different translations
966
0:54:17 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]ays of Calderon like in different translations
967
0:54:21 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] you read all those 2000 books?
968
0:54:25 --> 0:54:26
not all of them
969
0:54:27 --> 0:54:28
have you read them all?
970
0:54:29 --> 0:54:30
not all of them
971
0:54:31 --> 0:54:33
I read this 2000
972
0:54:34 --> 0:54:37
the one which is like in the Soviet Union, this 2000
973
0:54:38 --> 0:54:40
but then you go like aside
974
0:54:41 --> 0:54:42
like to different things
975
0:54:43 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]
976
0:54:45 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]e 2000
977
0:54:47 --> 0:54:49
which 2000? the Soviet Union produced a list of books?
978
0:54:50 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction], the publishing project where they published 2000 volumes of
979
0:54:56 --> 0:55:02
it was called like the library of the world literature
980
0:55:03 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]?
981
0:55:05 --> 0:55:11
I think potentially there will be English articles about that
982
0:55:12 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] there
983
0:55:14 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] every volume in this 200 was published 300,000 copies
984
0:55:21 --> 0:55:22
300,000 copies
985
0:55:23 --> 0:55:24
wow
986
0:55:25 --> 0:55:29
so some writers they don't have these copies apart from this translation
987
0:55:30 --> 0:55:32
so then there were writers
988
0:55:32 --> 0:55:35
then there were writers who wrote
989
0:55:36 --> 0:55:37
I don't know
990
0:55:38 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] about picaresque novels?
991
0:55:42 --> 0:55:43
picaresque?
992
0:55:44 --> 0:55:45
sorry how do you spell that?
993
0:55:46 --> 0:55:53
it's like p-i-q-u-a-r-s-q-u-e
994
0:55:54 --> 0:55:55
picaresque
995
0:55:56 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]n't heard of those novels
996
0:56:00 --> 0:56:08
so that's the specific genre which appeared in Spanish literature at the turn of 16th 17th century
997
0:56:09 --> 0:56:17
it's a short novel about the life of some scoundrel or the person who is from the bottom of the society
998
0:56:18 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]el
999
0:56:22 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]el like or the thief
1000
0:56:24 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]e, educated people in Spain at this time
1001
0:56:31 --> 0:56:38
they were writing novels about this we can say people who are like at the bottom of society prostitutes or the thieves
1002
0:56:39 --> 0:56:40
they were writing books from their point of view
1003
0:56:41 --> 0:56:44
and there were three or four influential novels
1004
0:56:45 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction] about these novels
1005
0:56:49 --> 0:56:55
because I included one of these novels in my list 100 it's by Francisco Quivado
1006
0:56:56 --> 0:57:00
so El Buscon it's about the life of one of these scoundrels
1007
0:57:01 --> 0:57:06
and the funny thing is that it's written by the person who is not a scoundrel
1008
0:57:07 --> 0:57:15
it's written by educated person who knows apart from French, English, Italian, Latin and Greek
1009
0:57:15 --> 0:57:19
he knows Arabic, he knows Iverit
1010
0:57:20 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]er in the time of the skins
1011
0:57:24 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]omatic missions to Italy back and forth
1012
0:57:29 --> 0:57:32
so this person from the high society is writing a novel
1013
0:57:33 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]el from the bottom of the society
1014
0:57:37 --> 0:57:38
and there were several novels like that
1015
0:57:39 --> 0:57:44
in some extent they influenced the appearance of the European literature as a genre
1016
0:57:45 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction] they influenced the appearance of Don Quixote as well
1017
0:57:49 --> 0:57:54
and many books since then they could be seen as sort of variations of these picaresque novels
1018
0:57:55 --> 0:57:58
where you got somebody who is a thief or prostitute
1019
0:57:59 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ually they make the book and write it in the way that you have a sympathy for this person, for this outcast
1020
0:58:05 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]e argue for example that Thomas Mann he wrote the book called An Affair of Thomas Krull
1021
0:58:12 --> 0:58:17
it's also sort of education novel, it's called like education novel
1022
0:58:18 --> 0:58:20
where we see the development of the characters since his birth
1023
0:58:21 --> 0:58:24
but it's like with negative, like with a minus
1024
0:58:25 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ing thing
1025
0:58:28 --> 0:58:32
then we need to read some poets from this time and the famous one is Gengora
1026
0:58:33 --> 0:58:34
and in this time in Spain
1027
0:58:35 --> 0:58:37
so that's why when I'm reading Don Quixote
1028
0:58:37 --> 0:58:42
at the same time I'm reading dramas of the play writers of this time
1029
0:58:43 --> 0:58:46
and the poets of this time because every one of them got unique style
1030
0:58:47 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]yle
1031
0:58:49 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ep what happens
1032
0:58:53 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ory of the peninsula we see how it developed
1033
0:58:58 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e populated it in different times
1034
0:59:02 --> 0:59:03
so initially there were Iberians
1035
0:59:04 --> 0:59:06
so that's why Romans called it Iberia
1036
0:59:07 --> 0:59:08
they were Celts
1037
0:59:09 --> 0:59:10
hence Celtibers
1038
0:59:11 --> 0:59:13
then Romans came, conquered Spain
1039
0:59:14 --> 0:59:16
and they founded their colonies in their cities
1040
0:59:17 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e from ancient Roman came from Spain
1041
0:59:21 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e Seneca the philosopher and writer
1042
0:59:24 --> 0:59:25
who was a tutor for Nero
1043
0:59:26 --> 0:59:30
or Macas Aurelius this philosopher emperor
1044
0:59:31 --> 0:59:32
he was born in Spain and he grew up in Spain
1045
0:59:33 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]ian the emperor who left
1046
0:59:35 --> 0:59:42
Adrian wall and also in his time they I think completed Pantheon in Rome
1047
0:59:43 --> 0:59:47
so and then after Rome what happens?
1048
0:59:48 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] and then this huge movement migration of nations in Europe
1049
0:59:54 --> 0:59:55
fourth, fifth, sixth century
1050
0:59:56 --> 0:59:59
and Germanic tribes called Goths or Visigoths
1051
1:00:00 --> 1:00:04
they come and they come to Spain and they found these first kingdoms in Spain
1052
1:00:05 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]ay in Spain and they were by the way they later turned to Christianity
1053
1:00:12 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction] they were using they were converted not converted
1054
1:00:16 --> 1:00:20
they were preaching or how could their confession was like Christianity
1055
1:00:21 --> 1:00:22
but like heretical one heretical
1056
1:00:23 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]ianity
1057
1:00:26 --> 1:00:29
and they were living in Spain without issues
1058
1:00:30 --> 1:00:31
but then what happened?
1059
1:00:31 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]ated sort of his book
1060
1:00:38 --> 1:00:39
so the Allah speak to him
1061
1:00:40 --> 1:00:46
and we see this movement of Arabic tribes which unite into first Arab caliphates
1062
1:00:47 --> 1:00:49
which begin to spread spread spread
1063
1:00:50 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]y of this Arabian caliphate is overthrown in Damascus
1064
1:00:56 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]y they assassinated all the members of this family
1065
1:00:59 --> 1:01:01
only one survived
1066
1:01:02 --> 1:01:06
so and this member of the family he runs from Damascus to northern Africa
1067
1:01:07 --> 1:01:15
and from northern Africa with his followers and tribes from the north of Africa
1068
1:01:16 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction] cross Gibraltar it's like small distance
1069
1:01:22 --> 1:01:25
and they go and conquer Spain without issues
1070
1:01:26 --> 1:01:27
it happened like that
1071
1:01:27 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ance
1072
1:01:30 --> 1:01:32
so and what Arabs do?
1073
1:01:33 --> 1:01:41
they bring the culture and they bring irrigation techniques from the from the from the east from Egypt to Arab
1074
1:01:42 --> 1:01:45
so along the rivers they create this irrigation canals
1075
1:01:46 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ant I think sugar cane if I'm not mistaken
1076
1:01:53 --> 1:01:56
cotton vignettes and everything
1077
1:01:57 --> 1:02:00
and the cities which were already there they begin to flourish
1078
1:02:01 --> 1:02:06
so they create huge and beautiful mosques and palaces
1079
1:02:07 --> 1:02:12
and also they invite one of these caliphs in Cordova
1080
1:02:13 --> 1:02:17
he invites translators he invites scholars
1081
1:02:18 --> 1:02:19
and what they do?
1082
1:02:20 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]eries
1083
1:02:22 --> 1:02:26
they are seeking for all manuscripts in the 9th and 10th century
1084
1:02:27 --> 1:02:29
and they begin to translate them into Arabic
1085
1:02:30 --> 1:02:36
and as a result of it some of the works by Plato or Aristotle we know from Arabic translation
1086
1:02:37 --> 1:02:39
they didn't survive in original Greek
1087
1:02:40 --> 1:02:44
and that's because these guys in Cordova translated them in their time
1088
1:02:45 --> 1:02:47
so this is a rather cruel
1089
1:02:47 --> 1:02:52
but then although it was a time of tolerance in Spain
1090
1:02:53 --> 1:02:59
where Muslims lived together with Jews and also together with Christians
1091
1:03:00 --> 1:03:05
at some point these northern kingdoms which were still Catholic Aragon Castile Leon
1092
1:03:06 --> 1:03:08
they begin to conquer back Spain
1093
1:03:09 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]ed of years to conquer to the south to conquer to the south
1094
1:03:15 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]rife within this caliphate
1095
1:03:20 --> 1:03:25
when these emirs, these caliphs, Islam caliphs they were weakened
1096
1:03:26 --> 1:03:27
so they used it to conquer back
1097
1:03:28 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]ory but the thing is that
1098
1:03:32 --> 1:03:34
these scholars I mentioned
1099
1:03:35 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]ova caliphate who ran from Damascus
1100
1:03:41 --> 1:03:44
who ran from Damascus, the survivor from the family, he's a poet himself
1101
1:03:45 --> 1:03:50
so in this case when I'm reading these poets of Spain who are Catholics from 15th century
1102
1:03:51 --> 1:03:55
I go because they were influenced by this guy who were before them
1103
1:03:56 --> 1:04:00
and I'm looking into Arabic poetry which was written in the courts of this Cordova
1104
1:04:01 --> 1:04:08
and I'm going to the south even to further Arabic poetry in Egypt, in Syria
1105
1:04:08 --> 1:04:12
and I go to the Islamic Arabic poetry which I discovered
1106
1:04:13 --> 1:04:16
so I'm looking how they influence it, how the poetic form develops
1107
1:04:17 --> 1:04:22
and how this poetry in 11th century, in 10th, 11th century from Spain
1108
1:04:23 --> 1:04:30
from this Islamic emirate influenced the poetry of poets in the southern France, in Provence
1109
1:04:31 --> 1:04:34
who in their turn influenced Dante
1110
1:04:34 --> 1:04:38
so it's like the spread of literary influences
1111
1:04:39 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]a, the process when the Spanish kingdoms got the territory back
1112
1:04:46 --> 1:04:50
where they expelled all Muslims from their territory
1113
1:04:51 --> 1:04:57
so 1492, the fall of the last emirate of Muslim states in Granada
1114
1:04:58 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]art his journey to the new
1115
1:05:01 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] wanted to spread Christianity to everywhere
1116
1:05:08 --> 1:05:12
so that's why they didn't stop in the south of Spain
1117
1:05:13 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] moved further to the northern Africa, to America
1118
1:05:17 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]led there, 1492, that was the year when the first chivalric novels appeared
1119
1:05:25 --> 1:05:27
and I will show one of them
1120
1:05:27 --> 1:05:30
so this is the title
1121
1:05:33 --> 1:05:34
this one
1122
1:05:35 --> 1:05:37
so it's called Amadis the Gaul
1123
1:05:39 --> 1:05:46
it's sort of fairy tale in the spirit of king Arthur and the knights of his table
1124
1:05:47 --> 1:05:50
it's like very simple stories, I got the Russian translations of them
1125
1:05:51 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]e, there is like supernatural element there
1126
1:05:54 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]e like Merlin, Enchanters and everything
1127
1:05:59 --> 1:06:05
so that literature was very popular in Spain at the beginning of 16th century
1128
1:06:06 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]adors that went to America
1129
1:06:11 --> 1:06:13
they took this novel to read
1130
1:06:14 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]e believe that these conquistadors, they were thinking that there was these knights from these books
1131
1:06:21 --> 1:06:28
that they need to go to discover new countries to fight like, I don't know, some sort of strange creatures
1132
1:06:29 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ianity everywhere
1133
1:06:32 --> 1:06:35
and they truly believe that it was like a feeling of them
1134
1:06:36 --> 1:06:39
because they are discovering things that nobody, no one saw in the world
1135
1:06:40 --> 1:06:44
so that was very popular literature at the time
1136
1:06:45 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] that Cervantes, when he was in prison, he was reading one of his novels
1137
1:06:49 --> 1:06:57
and I think maybe he was annoyed with this unnatural situations, simple stuff
1138
1:06:58 --> 1:07:03
it was like very childhood and he thought like, I need to write some parody, satire on that
1139
1:07:04 --> 1:07:06
so that's why he started to write Don Quixote in this way
1140
1:07:09 --> 1:07:10
as a parody
1141
1:07:11 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]arted to write in it, actually it grew from this initial idea
1142
1:07:19 --> 1:07:20
and it grew into something else
1143
1:07:21 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction] European novel of our time, I think
1144
1:07:27 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ers who are developing through the novel
1145
1:07:32 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]orical background
1146
1:07:35 --> 1:07:37
because again, it's like a movie
1147
1:07:38 --> 1:07:41
when you read Don Quixote, it's like a movie where you see everything
1148
1:07:42 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]e lived, how they were working in the fields, what they were doing in the villages
1149
1:07:47 --> 1:07:51
what was going on in the palaces, in the markets
1150
1:07:52 --> 1:07:54
and you meet all layers of society
1151
1:07:55 --> 1:07:56
it's like a fantastic thing
1152
1:07:57 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ation of this book
1153
1:08:00 --> 1:08:02
so many things are, it's like war and peace
1154
1:08:03 --> 1:08:04
a lot of things comprise there
1155
1:08:05 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]e, I don't want to offend people
1156
1:08:10 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]e know what's the main plot
1157
1:08:14 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]ers of Don Quixote
1158
1:08:18 --> 1:08:21
so that's by the way the first page of the first edition
1159
1:08:22 --> 1:08:23
Don Quixote
1160
1:08:24 --> 1:08:30
it's like 1905, so it was published 1905
1161
1:08:31 --> 1:08:34
you've got first edition at home
1162
1:08:35 --> 1:08:36
no, no, no
1163
1:08:37 --> 1:08:40
it's a huge treasure, it's like a folio of Shakespeare, it cost millions
1164
1:08:41 --> 1:08:43
oh I see, that was a phone scruff
1165
1:08:44 --> 1:08:48
so yeah, and that's the first page where in the first chapter
1166
1:08:49 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]arts something like that
1167
1:08:51 --> 1:08:53
in the village in La Mancha
1168
1:08:54 --> 1:08:56
and it doesn't matter what's the name of this village
1169
1:08:57 --> 1:08:58
there was an old Hidalgo
1170
1:08:59 --> 1:09:00
Hidalgo is like impoverished knight
1171
1:09:01 --> 1:09:05
who had a spear and an old shield
1172
1:09:06 --> 1:09:08
he had a horse and a dog
1173
1:09:09 --> 1:09:10
and then they describe that
1174
1:09:10 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]er
1175
1:09:12 --> 1:09:15
this impoverished knight who is around like age of 50
1176
1:09:16 --> 1:09:18
he read a lot of chivalric novels
1177
1:09:19 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]uff like Amadis de Gaulle
1178
1:09:21 --> 1:09:23
because this novel was so popular
1179
1:09:24 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]e make money writing sort of imitations or continuations of this book
1180
1:09:28 --> 1:09:30
there were like a lot of 20 sequels
1181
1:09:31 --> 1:09:32
I think it's called Sequel
1182
1:09:33 --> 1:09:34
Yo, Kenny, did you say La Mancha?
1183
1:09:35 --> 1:09:36
La Mancha, yeah, La Mancha
1184
1:09:37 --> 1:09:38
that's in southern Spain, isn't it?
1185
1:09:38 --> 1:09:39
Yeah, in the middle Spain
1186
1:09:40 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction], I will say like
1187
1:09:43 --> 1:09:44
it's almost like Russian steppe
1188
1:09:45 --> 1:09:46
with only difference there is no snow there
1189
1:09:47 --> 1:09:51
Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that Spain is the most mountainous country in Europe
1190
1:09:52 --> 1:09:53
and that includes Switzerland
1191
1:09:54 --> 1:09:55
but La Mancha
1192
1:09:56 --> 1:09:58
so La Mancha now, Yo, Kenny, isn't it known for
1193
1:09:59 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] a tennis school there
1194
1:10:04 --> 1:10:05
thanks to Don Quixote
1195
1:10:06 --> 1:10:07
crazy
1196
1:10:08 --> 1:10:10
I mean that Don Quixote I think is a brand of Spain
1197
1:10:11 --> 1:10:12
you say Spain you think Don Quixote
1198
1:10:13 --> 1:10:14
you say Don Quixote you think Spain
1199
1:10:15 --> 1:10:16
he is associated with Spain
1200
1:10:19 --> 1:10:22
and he read these chivalric novels
1201
1:10:23 --> 1:10:24
and then
1202
1:10:25 --> 1:10:26
I don't want to interrupt you now
1203
1:10:27 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] very briefly
1204
1:10:29 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] wonder whether you can find time
1205
1:10:31 --> 1:10:34
in space of 15 minutes or 20 minutes later maybe
1206
1:10:35 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]
1207
1:10:36 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]s about every book in your [privacy contact redaction]
1208
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you mean but not today
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1:10:44 --> 1:10:46
well I was thinking today if you could do it
1210
1:10:47 --> 1:10:52
but when you finished whatever it is that you're planning to say now
1211
1:10:53 --> 1:10:54
okay
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1:10:55 --> 1:10:58
so and this night he goes sort of like mad
1213
1:10:59 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] that he imagines that he is like this night errand
1214
1:11:03 --> 1:11:06
that he needs to go out and to do these heroic deeds
1215
1:11:07 --> 1:11:11
so he takes his old horse he puts on this old armory
1216
1:11:12 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]l
1217
1:11:14 --> 1:11:15
and then he finds this sidekick
1218
1:11:16 --> 1:11:18
so that's Don Quixote himself
1219
1:11:19 --> 1:11:22
and then that's his sidekick Sancho Panza
1220
1:11:23 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ers sort of
1221
1:11:26 --> 1:11:27
at the beginning of the book they are quite opposite
1222
1:11:28 --> 1:11:30
so one of them is like in the sky in the books
1223
1:11:30 --> 1:11:31
so he's thinking about ideals
1224
1:11:32 --> 1:11:35
and another one down to earth thinking all the time
1225
1:11:36 --> 1:11:37
where to eat where to sleep
1226
1:11:38 --> 1:11:39
like how to survive
1227
1:11:40 --> 1:11:44
yeah and it's interesting how conversations between them
1228
1:11:45 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ions like influence each other
1229
1:11:48 --> 1:11:51
because when the Cervantes published the second part of Don Quixote
1230
1:11:52 --> 1:11:55
you can see that Don Quixote picked up some stuff from Sancho Panza
1231
1:11:56 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ed
1232
1:11:57 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ed by Don Quixote ideas
1233
1:12:01 --> 1:12:04
I don't want to go into the famous episode with windmills
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1:12:05 --> 1:12:06
because everybody knows what has happened
1235
1:12:07 --> 1:12:08
there were windmills in La Mancha
1236
1:12:09 --> 1:12:11
and Don Quixote he was thinking these giants like
1237
1:12:12 --> 1:12:15
waving their hands so he attacked windmills
1238
1:12:16 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ually one of the sails
1239
1:12:20 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] knocked them down
1240
1:12:23 --> 1:12:25
although Sancho Panza wanted that windmills
1241
1:12:25 --> 1:12:27
although Sancho Panza wanted that
1242
1:12:28 --> 1:12:31
senor senor it's not like it's like windmills windmills
1243
1:12:32 --> 1:12:34
I want to touch one episode
1244
1:12:35 --> 1:12:38
it's in the first part of Don Quixote and it's book 22
1245
1:12:39 --> 1:12:40
so he's with Sancho Panza
1246
1:12:41 --> 1:12:45
they are somewhere in this like area
1247
1:12:46 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] stones
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1:12:48 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]s going somewhere
1249
1:12:52 --> 1:12:55
so they go to the port because these are criminals
1250
1:12:56 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ions
1251
1:12:58 --> 1:13:02
and they will be sent on galleys to row the fleet
1252
1:13:03 --> 1:13:07
Don Quixote asks some of these criminals what they have done
1253
1:13:08 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ole linen, another was a pin
1254
1:13:12 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]uff
1255
1:13:15 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]al and saying like
1256
1:13:18 --> 1:13:19
oh do you know in the prison I'm writing a book now
1257
1:13:19 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction] you finished the book
1258
1:13:23 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]al is like how can I finish I'm still alive
1259
1:13:26 --> 1:13:27
so like that
1260
1:13:28 --> 1:13:31
but then there is a lot of fun in these dialogues and everything
1261
1:13:32 --> 1:13:36
it's so humane and a lot of humor and a lot of observation of the life
1262
1:13:37 --> 1:13:39
and then Don Quixote
1263
1:13:40 --> 1:13:41
so if we look from our point of view
1264
1:13:42 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]art
1265
1:13:44 --> 1:13:46
is any heroic deed there to do?
1266
1:13:46 --> 1:13:47
we got criminals
1267
1:13:48 --> 1:13:50
they got their like sentences
1268
1:13:51 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ice is served
1269
1:13:53 --> 1:13:54
nothing to do there
1270
1:13:55 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]e got their punishment like according to the law
1271
1:13:59 --> 1:14:00
but Don Quixote what he is doing he is saying
1272
1:14:01 --> 1:14:03
although they committed crimes, although they are sentenced
1273
1:14:04 --> 1:14:06
we need to treat them with compassion
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1:14:07 --> 1:14:10
so and he frees them from these chains
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1:14:11 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]
1276
1:14:13 --> 1:14:14
and these criminals are set free
1277
1:14:14 --> 1:14:15
do you know?
1278
1:14:16 --> 1:14:18
so what this episode is all about
1279
1:14:19 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] time I was thinking this is absurd
1280
1:14:23 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] the law
1281
1:14:25 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] the crown
1282
1:14:27 --> 1:14:30
Sancho Panse is saying that senior senior we need to save ourselves
1283
1:14:31 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]s will run to the city and tell Inquisition that we freed the prisoners
1284
1:14:36 --> 1:14:38
but Don Quixote gives his argumentation
1285
1:14:39 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]e are unfortunate
1286
1:14:41 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]e don't know what pulls to and whom to bribe
1287
1:14:48 --> 1:14:50
in some cases the judge wasn't
1288
1:14:51 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]oring social justice
1289
1:14:55 --> 1:14:56
so that's the character
1290
1:14:57 --> 1:15:01
yeah and there were 40 heroic deeds like that
1291
1:15:02 --> 1:15:04
heroic deeds by Don Quixote
1292
1:15:05 --> 1:15:06
they are quite different
1293
1:15:07 --> 1:15:10
but then when Cervantes published the second book
1294
1:15:11 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]er he transforms
1295
1:15:16 --> 1:15:18
he transforms he turns totally different
1296
1:15:19 --> 1:15:21
in the middle of the book he is not Don Quixote which was before
1297
1:15:22 --> 1:15:24
he is like more hesitant
1298
1:15:25 --> 1:15:28
if with these prisoners he didn't have any hesitation to free them
1299
1:15:29 --> 1:15:31
now in the second book we see his doubts
1300
1:15:32 --> 1:15:33
what I want to say
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1:15:34 --> 1:15:36
yeah it's the book like to read and reread
1302
1:15:37 --> 1:15:38
because every of these heroic deeds
1303
1:15:38 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction] about one chapter
1304
1:15:42 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ers
1305
1:15:44 --> 1:15:47
it's some sort of literary game
1306
1:15:48 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]
1307
1:15:54 --> 1:15:56
make a joke when we are reading it
1308
1:15:57 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ers
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1:15:59 --> 1:16:00
we say
1310
1:16:02 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]er where he frees prisoners
1311
1:16:04 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]er 22 about Don Quixote freed many wretches
1312
1:16:10 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] their will
1313
1:16:12 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] preferred not to go
1314
1:16:15 --> 1:16:17
it's like instead of saying they are prisoners
1315
1:16:18 --> 1:16:19
that should be sent to this galaxy
1316
1:16:20 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]er 20
1317
1:16:22 --> 1:16:27
about the unprecedented and unique adventure undertaken by the villain Don Quixote de la Mancha
1318
1:16:28 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] danger was ever brought to a happy conclusion
1319
1:16:34 --> 1:16:35
the only famous knight in the world
1320
1:16:36 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ually no notion of that
1321
1:16:38 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]er if you read
1322
1:16:40 --> 1:16:41
the episode is like that
1323
1:16:42 --> 1:16:43
it's a knight
1324
1:16:44 --> 1:16:45
Sancho Panza he got diarrhea
1325
1:16:46 --> 1:16:47
sorry
1326
1:16:48 --> 1:16:49
and he relieves himself
1327
1:16:50 --> 1:16:51
and Don Quixote hears that
1328
1:16:52 --> 1:16:54
and he smells it
1329
1:16:55 --> 1:16:56
and he says
1330
1:16:57 --> 1:16:58
oh Sancho you are afraid of the next heroic deed
1331
1:16:59 --> 1:17:00
because we hear these sounds
1332
1:17:01 --> 1:17:02
and there are sounds in the air
1333
1:17:02 --> 1:17:03
like boom boom boom
1334
1:17:04 --> 1:17:05
and when they are approaching to this boom boom
1335
1:17:06 --> 1:17:07
there are huge hammers
1336
1:17:08 --> 1:17:09
automatic hammers that work there
1337
1:17:10 --> 1:17:13
but at this point Don Quixote is sober
1338
1:17:14 --> 1:17:15
and he is telling to Sancho Panza
1339
1:17:16 --> 1:17:17
Sancho they are not giants
1340
1:17:18 --> 1:17:19
they are like hammers
1341
1:17:20 --> 1:17:21
so and he is saying like
1342
1:17:22 --> 1:17:26
if there was a magician who turned these hammers into giants
1343
1:17:27 --> 1:17:29
that will be the moment when they will like fight with them
1344
1:17:29 --> 1:17:30
okay
1345
1:17:31 --> 1:17:32
let's go to the next one
1346
1:17:33 --> 1:17:34
that's brilliant Nick
1347
1:17:35 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]oryteller Yavgeny for children
1348
1:17:38 --> 1:17:39
seriously
1349
1:17:40 --> 1:17:41
give them back on track
1350
1:17:42 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]ronic devices
1351
1:17:48 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]
1352
1:17:50 --> 1:17:51
of course
1353
1:17:52 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] humanity this atomization is like
1354
1:17:55 --> 1:17:56
although it's like paradox
1355
1:17:57 --> 1:17:58
when we got mobile devices
1356
1:17:59 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ed
1357
1:18:01 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ed
1358
1:18:03 --> 1:18:04
it's like a paradox
1359
1:18:05 --> 1:18:08
so can you expand on that Yavgeny
1360
1:18:09 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]n't you thought about it really
1361
1:18:11 --> 1:18:13
so I think that's really important lesson
1362
1:18:14 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] four years
1363
1:18:16 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ed to their phones
1364
1:18:18 --> 1:18:19
and to their computers
1365
1:18:20 --> 1:18:21
and what's more they don't realize
1366
1:18:22 --> 1:18:24
that yes you can use computers wisely
1367
1:18:25 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] self-discipline
1368
1:18:27 --> 1:18:28
they don't even know what self-discipline is
1369
1:18:29 --> 1:18:30
so
1370
1:18:31 --> 1:18:32
could you talk about things like that
1371
1:18:33 --> 1:18:36
and also if you don't have people having the same conversation
1372
1:18:37 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]en
1373
1:18:39 --> 1:18:40
and great grandparents and parents
1374
1:18:41 --> 1:18:44
then it's very difficult to build up values
1375
1:18:45 --> 1:18:47
and if you don't have values in the society
1376
1:18:48 --> 1:18:49
that society won't survive
1377
1:18:50 --> 1:18:51
and that's exactly where we are now
1378
1:18:52 --> 1:18:53
yeah I would say
1379
1:18:54 --> 1:18:55
I share this notion
1380
1:18:56 --> 1:18:57
and they think that
1381
1:18:57 --> 1:18:58
what happens
1382
1:18:59 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]e psychology we can say
1383
1:19:04 --> 1:19:05
or how the brain is working
1384
1:19:06 --> 1:19:10
that the brain wants something easy
1385
1:19:11 --> 1:19:12
you know
1386
1:19:13 --> 1:19:14
because we need to think
1387
1:19:15 --> 1:19:16
to read
1388
1:19:17 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ate
1389
1:19:19 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction] a meaningful discussion
1390
1:19:21 --> 1:19:22
we need energy, glucose
1391
1:19:23 --> 1:19:24
and the brain is limited in that
1392
1:19:25 --> 1:19:26
so the brain prefers lazy mode to relax
1393
1:19:27 --> 1:19:28
to gather food
1394
1:19:29 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]uff yourself and to lay down
1395
1:19:31 --> 1:19:32
like Sancho Panza
1396
1:19:33 --> 1:19:34
so
1397
1:19:35 --> 1:19:36
we need, I agree with you
1398
1:19:37 --> 1:19:39
so we need will and effort
1399
1:19:40 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction] in our head
1400
1:19:44 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]en classical music
1401
1:19:47 --> 1:19:48
or read books like that
1402
1:19:49 --> 1:19:51
or doing mathematics, physics
1403
1:19:52 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]uff
1404
1:19:54 --> 1:19:56
which doesn't include scrolling Twitter
1405
1:19:57 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ures
1406
1:19:59 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction] in our head
1407
1:20:04 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]s say that we need for that to read books
1408
1:20:07 --> 1:20:08
in the topics
1409
1:20:09 --> 1:20:10
so we need to suffer essentially
1410
1:20:11 --> 1:20:12
we need to suffer to grow
1411
1:20:13 --> 1:20:14
if we don't suffer
1412
1:20:15 --> 1:20:16
if we're always looking for something
1413
1:20:17 --> 1:20:18
if we're always living a comfortable life
1414
1:20:19 --> 1:20:20
we're gonna remain like infants
1415
1:20:21 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]en
1416
1:20:23 --> 1:20:24
yeah there is a painting by Bregel
1417
1:20:25 --> 1:20:26
I think it's called something like
1418
1:20:27 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]e, it's like the famous allegorical painting
1419
1:20:30 --> 1:20:31
15th or 16th century
1420
1:20:32 --> 1:20:33
where is a tree
1421
1:20:34 --> 1:20:35
and on the tree
1422
1:20:36 --> 1:20:37
I think the food or the bread is like falling down
1423
1:20:38 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]e
1424
1:20:41 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]e under this tree
1425
1:20:43 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction] open the mouth
1426
1:20:45 --> 1:20:46
and everything is going into their like
1427
1:20:47 --> 1:20:48
into their like mouth
1428
1:20:49 --> 1:20:50
yeah
1429
1:20:51 --> 1:20:52
like McDonald's hamburgers
1430
1:20:53 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]ly
1431
1:20:55 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]
1432
1:20:57 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]agram
1433
1:20:59 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]e
1434
1:21:01 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]easure
1435
1:21:03 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]easure
1436
1:21:05 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ly
1437
1:21:07 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]easure from
1438
1:21:09 --> 1:21:10
and you can see the behavior
1439
1:21:11 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ures
1440
1:21:13 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]op on one of them
1441
1:21:15 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]uff is not interesting
1442
1:21:17 --> 1:21:18
but they're interested in something
1443
1:21:19 --> 1:21:20
and they're like
1444
1:21:21 --> 1:21:22
they're sort of informational
1445
1:21:23 --> 1:21:24
diabetes I will call it
1446
1:21:25 --> 1:21:26
it's just all the time supported by this
1447
1:21:27 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]agram or things
1448
1:21:29 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] I want to mention that
1449
1:21:31 --> 1:21:32
that's their cult
1450
1:21:33 --> 1:21:34
that's their cult Yergeny
1451
1:21:35 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]op at something which supports their cult
1452
1:21:37 --> 1:21:38
so it seems to me that human beings
1453
1:21:39 --> 1:21:41
everybody wants to get everybody else into their cult
1454
1:21:42 --> 1:21:45
and some are more successful than others in getting them
1455
1:21:46 --> 1:21:49
so I'm trying to get you into the cult of
1456
1:21:50 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ion
1457
1:21:53 --> 1:21:54
yeah
1458
1:21:55 --> 1:21:56
this cult
1459
1:21:57 --> 1:21:58
I think
1460
1:21:59 --> 1:22:01
everybody recalls how internet appeared
1461
1:22:02 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]e were writing in internet blogs
1462
1:22:06 --> 1:22:07
huge articles
1463
1:22:08 --> 1:22:09
two, three pages or even more
1464
1:22:10 --> 1:22:11
and then we went to Twitter
1465
1:22:12 --> 1:22:14
where everything is like short
1466
1:22:15 --> 1:22:16
I don't recall how many
1467
1:22:17 --> 1:22:18
124 signs or whatever
1468
1:22:19 --> 1:22:20
everything is short
1469
1:22:21 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]agram
1470
1:22:23 --> 1:22:24
we don't need to write anything
1471
1:22:25 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ure and publish it
1472
1:22:27 --> 1:22:28
I invented coined the terms
1473
1:22:29 --> 1:22:30
something like
1474
1:22:31 --> 1:22:32
digital imbecility
1475
1:22:33 --> 1:22:34
digital imbecility
1476
1:22:35 --> 1:22:36
or social media
1477
1:22:37 --> 1:22:38
quasi-dementia
1478
1:22:39 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]e if they are grown up in this way
1479
1:22:43 --> 1:22:44
when they are unable
1480
1:22:45 --> 1:22:46
to process and to create
1481
1:22:47 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]s
1482
1:22:49 --> 1:22:50
you can easily manipulate with them
1483
1:22:51 --> 1:22:52
absolutely
1484
1:22:53 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]op a slogan
1485
1:22:55 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] lose total ability
1486
1:22:57 --> 1:23:00
because the propaganda these days is very sophisticated
1487
1:23:01 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ive
1488
1:23:03 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ive
1489
1:23:05 --> 1:23:08
and they all go along and show their left arm to whomever
1490
1:23:09 --> 1:23:10
yeah
1491
1:23:11 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] that
1492
1:23:13 --> 1:23:15
the methods of propaganda now are very sophisticated
1493
1:23:16 --> 1:23:19
it's like how you choose the news to present on BBC
1494
1:23:20 --> 1:23:22
how you frame this news
1495
1:23:23 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ay or two days ago BBC reported
1496
1:23:25 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]inians killed in explosions
1497
1:23:31 --> 1:23:32
in the tent camp
1498
1:23:33 --> 1:23:34
something like that in Rafa
1499
1:23:35 --> 1:23:37
so that's how it's framed
1500
1:23:38 --> 1:23:39
sort of passive form
1501
1:23:40 --> 1:23:41
you don't understand who is perpetrator
1502
1:23:42 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]
1503
1:23:45 --> 1:23:48
Israeli army bombed and killed and wounded
1504
1:23:49 --> 1:23:52
this amount of peaceful population
1505
1:23:52 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]e swallow it
1506
1:23:54 --> 1:23:55
they swallow
1507
1:23:56 --> 1:23:57
they don't just realize that
1508
1:23:58 --> 1:24:01
like they swallow this so called antidepressants
1509
1:24:02 --> 1:24:03
which are not antidepressants
1510
1:24:04 --> 1:24:05
which are doing more harm
1511
1:24:06 --> 1:24:07
because of these things
1512
1:24:08 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]?
1513
1:24:10 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ease yeah
1514
1:24:12 --> 1:24:13
so
1515
1:24:14 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] point of view
1516
1:24:16 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] described
1517
1:24:18 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] go along with things
1518
1:24:20 --> 1:24:23
and do things which are harmful to themselves
1519
1:24:24 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]anation for that?
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1:24:27 --> 1:24:30
have they been psychologically tortured into a state of Stockholm syndrome?
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1:24:31 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] four years
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1:24:35 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]e to lose their heads
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1:24:39 --> 1:24:40
lose their brains
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1:24:41 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ill
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1:24:43 --> 1:24:46
in my opinion they're still behaving like children
1526
1:24:47 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] in the UK
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1:24:48 --> 1:24:49
I'm not like
1528
1:24:50 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] or the person like that
1529
1:24:54 --> 1:24:56
but I think it was a process in time
1530
1:24:57 --> 1:24:59
and it didn't start like four years or even five years ago
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1:25:00 --> 1:25:01
it's like a long process
1532
1:25:02 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]itution
1533
1:25:06 --> 1:25:08
was working as a propaganda tool
1534
1:25:09 --> 1:25:11
and I'm using the word propaganda in negative connotation
1535
1:25:12 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] that to hide the truth
1536
1:25:14 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]s
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1:25:15 --> 1:25:18
since its foundation in 28 or 29
1538
1:25:19 --> 1:25:22
or you can go through the periods, through the years
1539
1:25:23 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] in country and outside was spinned
1540
1:25:28 --> 1:25:32
it was spinned by BBC who pretends to be like objective things
1541
1:25:33 --> 1:25:35
and they are selling this image through byproducts
1542
1:25:36 --> 1:25:37
through their soap operas
1543
1:25:38 --> 1:25:39
documentaries of Attenborough
1544
1:25:40 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] telling their weather
1545
1:25:42 --> 1:25:46
or sort of so they are selling this
1546
1:25:47 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] country
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1:25:52 --> 1:25:53
and I'm thinking there is apart from that
1548
1:25:54 --> 1:25:56
there is an element of mass culture
1549
1:25:57 --> 1:25:59
which I think appeared with the capitalism
1550
1:26:00 --> 1:26:02
where it's like a paradox
1551
1:26:03 --> 1:26:05
this Don Quixote was published
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1:26:06 --> 1:26:08
I don't know [privacy contact redaction] folio of Shakespeare
1553
1:26:09 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] folio
1554
1:26:12 --> 1:26:14
1626 or whatever
1555
1:26:15 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]e read that
1556
1:26:17 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]uff in millions
1557
1:26:22 --> 1:26:25
we don't need to rewrite these manuscripts in monasteries
1558
1:26:26 --> 1:26:30
we don't need manually to print it like Gutenberg
1559
1:26:31 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]am, in Madrid like on this primitive machines
1560
1:26:35 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]uff in millions
1561
1:26:38 --> 1:26:41
and then with this thing
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1:26:42 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]ry, capitalist industry
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1:26:46 --> 1:26:48
they don't want to employ genius
1564
1:26:49 --> 1:26:51
they want something which will be like fast food
1565
1:26:52 --> 1:26:54
like Fifty Shades of Grey
1566
1:26:55 --> 1:26:57
Fifty Shades of Grey, bestseller, British bestseller
1567
1:26:58 --> 1:27:00
which is like from literary point of view
1568
1:27:01 --> 1:27:02
from my point of view is rubbish
1569
1:27:03 --> 1:27:05
we can analyze it as sociological
1570
1:27:05 --> 1:27:07
cultural logical thing
1571
1:27:08 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]e of mass culture
1572
1:27:11 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]ify everything to the point that anyone can consume it
1573
1:27:17 --> 1:27:19
even the idiot and you sell it
1574
1:27:20 --> 1:27:25
and you add there certain elements which could sell the product
1575
1:27:26 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]en or images of animals
1576
1:27:32 --> 1:27:34
so like that
1577
1:27:35 --> 1:27:37
Can I ask you again, you probably understand this
1578
1:27:38 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] of world literature
1579
1:27:41 --> 1:27:42
that fascinates me
1580
1:27:43 --> 1:27:45
Gorky goes along to Lenin
1581
1:27:46 --> 1:27:48
and Lenin takes Gorky's advice
1582
1:27:49 --> 1:27:51
presumably Gorky has huge influence over Lenin
1583
1:27:52 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]e
1584
1:27:55 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] of the Soviet states
1585
1:27:59 --> 1:28:03
to kind of expose
1586
1:28:04 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]uff translated
1587
1:28:07 --> 1:28:09
because of Gorky's intervention as far as I understand
1588
1:28:10 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]ually they printed a huge number of books
1589
1:28:13 --> 1:28:17
which reversed the previous culture of Tolstoy's books
1590
1:28:18 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]e
1591
1:28:20 --> 1:28:22
maybe 20,[privacy contact redaction]e in the whole of Russia
1592
1:28:23 --> 1:28:24
is that right? In Tsarist Russia?
1593
1:28:25 --> 1:28:26
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly
1594
1:28:26 --> 1:28:28
So why did they do that?
1595
1:28:29 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]atorship
1596
1:28:32 --> 1:28:33
arguably the Bolshevik revolution
1597
1:28:34 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]atorship
1598
1:28:36 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]ate it became in the end
1599
1:28:39 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] in educating the people?
1600
1:28:45 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] of the world?
1601
1:28:50 --> 1:28:54
It's like a huge discussion maybe for a separate meeting
1602
1:28:54 --> 1:28:59
Karam maybe knows a lot of things that I think
1603
1:29:00 --> 1:29:02
it could be a lot of discussion
1604
1:29:03 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]atorship, what is totalitarian
1605
1:29:06 --> 1:29:08
but my point of view is like that
1606
1:29:09 --> 1:29:14
since maybe 17th, 18th century
1607
1:29:15 --> 1:29:20
since France, absolute is France of Louis XIV
1608
1:29:20 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]ates
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1:29:24 --> 1:29:26
if we're talking about states in Europe and in the world
1610
1:29:27 --> 1:29:28
they are totalitarian in their nature
1611
1:29:29 --> 1:29:30
when I say totalitarian it means
1612
1:29:31 --> 1:29:36
the ruling class in any country controls what people think
1613
1:29:37 --> 1:29:39
they control and they impose the ideas of the ruling class
1614
1:29:40 --> 1:29:41
imposed on middle class
1615
1:29:42 --> 1:29:44
and they put in the submission lower classes
1616
1:29:45 --> 1:29:47
so everything is about this
1617
1:29:48 --> 1:29:49
everything serves this purpose
1618
1:29:50 --> 1:29:51
laws of the country
1619
1:29:52 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]em
1620
1:29:54 --> 1:29:56
literature, fiction, cinema, music
1621
1:29:57 --> 1:29:58
everything, everything
1622
1:29:59 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]s of Hollywood
1623
1:30:03 --> 1:30:04
they bear propaganda
1624
1:30:05 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]e
1625
1:30:08 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]ion movie about
1626
1:30:11 --> 1:30:12
Batman and Joker
1627
1:30:13 --> 1:30:15
but there is a deep message there
1628
1:30:16 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]
1629
1:30:18 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]er
1630
1:30:20 --> 1:30:22
he lives in a palace
1631
1:30:23 --> 1:30:27
he's on the side of a police
1632
1:30:28 --> 1:30:29
sort of, and law
1633
1:30:30 --> 1:30:33
and he's defending this Gotham which is like New York
1634
1:30:34 --> 1:30:41
so they show the role model for your generation
1635
1:30:42 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]rive for
1636
1:30:44 --> 1:30:45
to be a Batman
1637
1:30:46 --> 1:30:47
like a lone wolf who is fighting
1638
1:30:48 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]em
1639
1:30:50 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]ion movie
1640
1:30:54 --> 1:30:57
so what was going through Lenin's head then?
1641
1:30:58 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ion
1642
1:31:01 --> 1:31:03
so I think
1643
1:31:04 --> 1:31:08
I don't want to say that there were some sort of revolutionary idealists
1644
1:31:09 --> 1:31:10
no, they were very pragmatic people
1645
1:31:11 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]e to be sort of enlightened
1646
1:31:15 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] that
1647
1:31:17 --> 1:31:19
we should bring these treasures to the people
1648
1:31:20 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ually his revolution wouldn't survive
1649
1:31:26 --> 1:31:29
if they didn't try to get some semblance of truth
1650
1:31:30 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] to get the truth was to look at world literature
1651
1:31:34 --> 1:31:37
it was a brilliant idea, Gorky's idea was unbelievably brilliant
1652
1:31:38 --> 1:31:39
I didn't know that though
1653
1:31:40 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] thank you so much
1654
1:31:42 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ease
1655
1:31:44 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] with Iliad and Odyssey
1656
1:31:50 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] there are books we can say from the west and from the east
1657
1:31:56 --> 1:31:57
at some point they are like separated
1658
1:31:58 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction] like Bible
1659
1:32:01 --> 1:32:02
I didn't include the Bible in this list
1660
1:32:03 --> 1:32:04
but it should be there
1661
1:32:05 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]e
1662
1:32:07 --> 1:32:08
so we didn't study Bible in school
1663
1:32:09 --> 1:32:10
but in our recommendation literature to read
1664
1:32:11 --> 1:32:12
was this like small thin book
1665
1:32:13 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ed rendering of New Testament and Old Testament
1666
1:32:20 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ers all the books of Bible
1667
1:32:24 --> 1:32:26
also it's accompanied with the like illustrations
1668
1:32:27 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction] that you know what these books about
1669
1:32:31 --> 1:32:34
because without this book you cannot read Dostoevsky
1670
1:32:35 --> 1:32:36
you cannot read other writers
1671
1:32:37 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]and that at some points he's like Christ
1672
1:32:42 --> 1:32:47
there is an episode where by Mischief he's suspended by his hand after
1673
1:32:47 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction] supper
1674
1:32:51 --> 1:32:52
where he was sitting at the table
1675
1:32:53 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]e
1676
1:32:58 --> 1:32:59
and he was in the middle
1677
1:33:00 --> 1:33:01
and he was preaching something about kindness
1678
1:33:02 --> 1:33:04
and after that he's like suspended by his wrist
1679
1:33:05 --> 1:33:07
so it's referring like to Christ
1680
1:33:08 --> 1:33:09
it's a sort of Spanish Christ figure
1681
1:33:10 --> 1:33:13
yeah so that was the book important for reading
1682
1:33:14 --> 1:33:16
so was that a reference to the crucifixion?
1683
1:33:17 --> 1:33:19
in Don Quixote
1684
1:33:20 --> 1:33:22
the one where the scene where he's going
1685
1:33:23 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]ory is like that
1686
1:33:27 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] in Don Quixote they go to the village
1687
1:33:30 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]ay at some how say it like hotel all the time
1688
1:33:35 --> 1:33:37
and somebody brings the table
1689
1:33:38 --> 1:33:40
and Cervantes says there was no round table
1690
1:33:41 --> 1:33:42
and there was no square table
1691
1:33:43 --> 1:33:44
but there was like elongated table
1692
1:33:44 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] in Don Quixote
1693
1:33:49 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]e at this table
1694
1:33:52 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]e
1695
1:33:55 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] and Don Quixote he is like 13
1696
1:33:59 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]les
1697
1:34:02 --> 1:34:04
and Don Quixote begins to speak something about
1698
1:34:05 --> 1:34:08
doing good about these heroic deeds
1699
1:34:09 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction] is telling them
1700
1:34:10 --> 1:34:12
senior senior you need to eat you need to eat
1701
1:34:13 --> 1:34:14
and he's like abstaining from food
1702
1:34:15 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction] supper
1703
1:34:17 --> 1:34:19
and then when everybody goes to sleep
1704
1:34:20 --> 1:34:21
Don Quixote because he's a knight
1705
1:34:22 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]le
1706
1:34:24 --> 1:34:26
because he's thinking that this poor hotel is a castle
1707
1:34:27 --> 1:34:28
and he has to defend them
1708
1:34:29 --> 1:34:31
so he goes on vigilance with a spear
1709
1:34:32 --> 1:34:35
sitting on the horse outside this like hotel
1710
1:34:36 --> 1:34:37
where the gates are closed
1711
1:34:37 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]ay a joke
1712
1:34:41 --> 1:34:43
so they go into high window and they shout him
1713
1:34:44 --> 1:34:45
Oh Don Quixote Don Quixote
1714
1:34:46 --> 1:34:48
can we touch your hand because you are a great person
1715
1:34:49 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction] want to touch the hand of the great man
1716
1:34:52 --> 1:34:53
so he's sitting on the horse
1717
1:34:54 --> 1:34:55
the window is high
1718
1:34:56 --> 1:34:57
he's putting hand like that and what they do
1719
1:34:58 --> 1:35:00
they take the bridle I think it's called bridle
1720
1:35:01 --> 1:35:03
bridle bridle bridle
1721
1:35:04 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]ually the bridle from the donkey
1722
1:35:07 --> 1:35:08
they take a bridle
1723
1:35:09 --> 1:35:10
make a loop like make a noose
1724
1:35:11 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction] of his arm
1725
1:35:16 --> 1:35:21
and the other like end of this bridle
1726
1:35:22 --> 1:35:27
they tie it to the noose
1727
1:35:28 --> 1:35:29
the noose
1728
1:35:30 --> 1:35:32
so they tie to something
1729
1:35:33 --> 1:35:34
so he's fixed and he cannot escape
1730
1:35:35 --> 1:35:36
his hand is up he's sitting on the horse
1731
1:35:37 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]ood on the horse
1732
1:35:39 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]ood to get to this window
1733
1:35:42 --> 1:35:43
he's standing on this horse
1734
1:35:44 --> 1:35:48
and he's barely breathing because he's afraid that the horse will run away
1735
1:35:49 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction] cannot
1736
1:35:51 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]
1737
1:35:53 --> 1:35:54
and he is experiencing a crusading pain
1738
1:35:55 --> 1:35:56
and he's on this wrist
1739
1:35:57 --> 1:35:58
eventually somebody took him down
1740
1:35:59 --> 1:36:00
but for me it's some sort of
1741
1:36:01 --> 1:36:02
I don't know how to describe it
1742
1:36:03 --> 1:36:05
is it a parody or is it a referral to the Last Supper
1743
1:36:05 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]?
1744
1:36:07 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ly
1745
1:36:09 --> 1:36:10
well the latter probably
1746
1:36:11 --> 1:36:13
but the thing is that with Don Quixote
1747
1:36:14 --> 1:36:18
many episodes they could be interpreted in different ways
1748
1:36:19 --> 1:36:20
ambiguous
1749
1:36:21 --> 1:36:22
it's not something like
1750
1:36:23 --> 1:36:24
it's not something like Steven Spielberg movies
1751
1:36:25 --> 1:36:26
where everything is chewed up
1752
1:36:27 --> 1:36:28
there is no ambiguity
1753
1:36:29 --> 1:36:30
you know definitely what's going on
1754
1:36:31 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ery
1755
1:36:33 --> 1:36:34
like in Kubrick's movies we are puzzling
1756
1:36:35 --> 1:36:36
we are not going to go on there
1757
1:36:37 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ers of Don Quixote is like that
1758
1:36:39 --> 1:36:41
we are trying to get into his head
1759
1:36:42 --> 1:36:43
it's not always described
1760
1:36:44 --> 1:36:45
and we are trying
1761
1:36:46 --> 1:36:47
and there are like do you know these sort of associations
1762
1:36:48 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]e
1763
1:36:50 --> 1:36:52
he's encountering people who are
1764
1:36:53 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]e who are in this desert
1765
1:36:56 --> 1:36:57
have a carriage with lions
1766
1:36:58 --> 1:36:59
I think with two lions
1767
1:37:00 --> 1:37:01
he's approaching them
1768
1:37:02 --> 1:37:03
he's with Sanchez Panza
1769
1:37:03 --> 1:37:04
and he's saying oh another heroic dance
1770
1:37:05 --> 1:37:06
can you open the
1771
1:37:07 --> 1:37:09
door of this cage so I can fight these lions
1772
1:37:10 --> 1:37:11
everybody is afraid
1773
1:37:12 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ease
1774
1:37:14 --> 1:37:15
they will eat us
1775
1:37:16 --> 1:37:18
the guys who are carrying this lion saying that
1776
1:37:19 --> 1:37:20
is he crazy
1777
1:37:21 --> 1:37:22
Sanchez Panza is saying no he's not crazy
1778
1:37:23 --> 1:37:24
but he is audacious
1779
1:37:25 --> 1:37:26
he's a hero
1780
1:37:27 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]
1781
1:37:29 --> 1:37:30
they open the door
1782
1:37:31 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]retching itself
1783
1:37:33 --> 1:37:34
Don Quixote is saying something
1784
1:37:35 --> 1:37:36
but the lion goes back
1785
1:37:37 --> 1:37:38
so that's all heroic did
1786
1:37:39 --> 1:37:40
but what it shows
1787
1:37:41 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ually
1788
1:37:43 --> 1:37:44
there are
1789
1:37:45 --> 1:37:46
I will say associations with something
1790
1:37:47 --> 1:37:48
which happened in the old Spanish epic song
1791
1:37:49 --> 1:37:50
about El Cid
1792
1:37:51 --> 1:37:52
national hero of Spain
1793
1:37:53 --> 1:37:54
where this hero El Cid
1794
1:37:55 --> 1:37:57
again there was a lion who went out of the cage
1795
1:37:58 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]
1796
1:38:00 --> 1:38:01
but this El Cid
1797
1:38:01 --> 1:38:02
he shouted at the lion
1798
1:38:03 --> 1:38:04
took the lion by
1799
1:38:05 --> 1:38:06
how say it
1800
1:38:07 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]
1801
1:38:09 --> 1:38:10
by the scruff of the neck
1802
1:38:11 --> 1:38:12
and I'm thinking
1803
1:38:13 --> 1:38:14
is it a referral to this episode
1804
1:38:15 --> 1:38:16
maybe it's the same lion
1805
1:38:17 --> 1:38:18
because he already knew that
1806
1:38:19 --> 1:38:20
you don't play
1807
1:38:21 --> 1:38:23
jokes with national heroes of Spain
1808
1:38:24 --> 1:38:26
like this El Cid or Don Quixote
1809
1:38:27 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] retired
1810
1:38:29 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] shows that
1811
1:38:31 --> 1:38:33
Don Quixote changes his title
1812
1:38:34 --> 1:38:35
so it's like important again moment
1813
1:38:36 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]s
1814
1:38:38 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] shows that
1815
1:38:40 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]ion like why the lion retreated
1816
1:38:42 --> 1:38:44
was it interference of God or Providence
1817
1:38:45 --> 1:38:46
or was it a fate
1818
1:38:49 --> 1:38:50
Yeah
1819
1:38:51 --> 1:38:52
So Yevgeny
1820
1:38:53 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] very quickly
1821
1:38:55 --> 1:38:56
you're from the Soviet Russia
1822
1:38:57 --> 1:38:58
and
1823
1:38:59 --> 1:39:00
and
1824
1:39:01 --> 1:39:02
I think you
1825
1:39:04 --> 1:39:05
you're from the kind of
1826
1:39:06 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]
1827
1:39:08 --> 1:39:09
that's about the time you were
1828
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you came to life as it were
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Yeah
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So there was quite a bit of the Soviet Union still to run
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but so there's a massively rich culture
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in Soviet Russia
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and then of course in Germany
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and
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and then of course you've got
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Spain and Italy
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and which Greece as well
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but which of these cultures
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you seem to be an admirer of the Spanish culture
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is that right
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1:39:43 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction] culture in your opinion or not
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Ah
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I would say like that
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all world
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all world
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because there are treasures
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which are spreaded everywhere
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everywhere
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you take the continent and you will find something there
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1:40:02 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]e African continent
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and I got anthology from this [privacy contact redaction] books
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1:40:09 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction] poets
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of 20th century in Africa
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in every single African country
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Sure
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1:40:19 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]uff which is
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we can see is like sort of political
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and also like audacious what they wrote
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Yeah
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1:40:27 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]uff experimental
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and there is a variety of that
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and the same with Latin America
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Hmm
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So we can't ignore any of it
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essentially because the genius might come from
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the genius might come from anywhere
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Yeah
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It can't be predicted
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Is that right?
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Yeah because the treasures
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the treasures like they are spreaded everywhere
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but there are certain books I would say
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that are very influential
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they appear at certain time
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and they are like these things
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like I will say that
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Russian culture is close
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1:41:04 --> 1:41:05
we can say in spirit to European cultures
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1:41:06 --> 1:41:07
in great extent
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Hmm
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Don Quixote is we can say
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1:41:12 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]er as well
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1:41:14 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] Spain at some point
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I think it was in 60s and 70s
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they give a present a copy of the monument
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1:41:20 --> 1:41:21
to Cervantes
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so it's in Moscow in one of the parks
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1:41:24 --> 1:41:25
and the thing is that
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again because of our writers and poets
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1:41:28 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ernak
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these writers they are like part of our
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sort of cultural background
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they are like in our
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in a head
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1:41:40 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] where my parents can tell me that
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or you are fighting with windmills
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like with this your psychiatry things
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1:41:47 --> 1:41:48
what you are trying to do
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1:41:49 --> 1:41:50
it's like
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sort of crazy behavior where you are jumping on
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these lines
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and you don't know what are the consequences
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but the main point is to be audacious
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so that's the thing that you learn
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Yeah we like danger don't we
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1:42:03 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ice
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so that's like
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that's the idea in Don Quixote
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Yeah
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1:42:11 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]e will be very interested in your list
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and I wonder whether
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how you organized it
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1:42:18 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]arted
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1:42:20 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] books
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1:42:22 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] important in your view
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1:42:23 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] you thought of
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1:42:26 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]er
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1:42:29 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] of these 200 volumes
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and I look at them
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200 not 100
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1:42:36 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ain that
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these 200 volumes
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1:42:40 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]
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some of the books they included
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1:42:44 --> 1:42:45
books so in one
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under one cover
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1:42:48 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]e under this cover
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there are
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1:42:51 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]s
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1:42:53 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ays
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so they are under one cover
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so I counted them one volume
1933
1:42:59 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]and
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1:43:01 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]e the Picaresque novels
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1:43:03 --> 1:43:04
there are six novels there
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1:43:05 --> 1:43:06
five of them are Spanish
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1:43:07 --> 1:43:08
and the sixth one is by Thomas Nash
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1:43:09 --> 1:43:10
actually who was a contemporary of Shakespeare
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1:43:11 --> 1:43:12
so there are six of them
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1:43:13 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] it's like very
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compromised thing
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I tried to pick up something like
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1:43:19 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] in chronological order
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1:43:21 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] to
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talk about these books so that we mention
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1:43:25 --> 1:43:26
each one of them
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1:43:32 --> 1:43:34
So what I'm essentially trying to do is
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so it's not just the people on the call
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1:43:37 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]s
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you know and it may be that
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1:43:41 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] interview ever
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1:43:43 --> 1:43:45
well if it's an interview I can't interview
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1:43:46 --> 1:43:47
but I'm trying my best
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1:43:48 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]e
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1:43:49 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]
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1:43:51 --> 1:43:52
and I'm trying to sell the list
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1:43:53 --> 1:43:55
and the reason why they need to look at the list
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which you've explained
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1:43:58 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] missed it
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1:44:00 --> 1:44:01
you know you've got limited time now
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1:44:02 --> 1:44:04
when you're a teen you think you've got all the time in the world
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1:44:05 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ually
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1:44:07 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]n't got much time to read
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1:44:10 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]
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1:44:12 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]e like you make time
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1:44:14 --> 1:44:15
So I would say that
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1:44:17 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ed in the
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1:44:19 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] is arranged in chronological order
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1:44:23 --> 1:44:25
it's chronological order starting from the ancient times to the
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1:44:26 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] century
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1:44:28 --> 1:44:29
so and
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1:44:30 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] cultural importance
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1:44:34 --> 1:44:36
because it's influenced more literature that followed it
1974
1:44:37 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]e Don Quixote was influenced by books which
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1:44:40 --> 1:44:42
appeared before that and Don Quixote influenced literature
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1:44:43 --> 1:44:44
which came after that
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1:44:45 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]art with the first
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1:44:47 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]
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1:44:49 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] for example
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number 11 is Dante Divine Comedy
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1:44:54 --> 1:44:56
to appreciate it you need to know
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1:44:57 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] like by heart
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1:45:00 --> 1:45:02
Virgil's Aeneid number four
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1:45:03 --> 1:45:04
it's about what has happened after
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1:45:05 --> 1:45:06
the sack of Troy
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1:45:07 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]l
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1:45:09 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]uff Dante
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1:45:12 --> 1:45:14
putting in Divine Comedy is taken from
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1:45:15 --> 1:45:16
Virgil's Aeneid
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1:45:16 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction] is
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1:45:19 --> 1:45:20
Aeneid and Odyssey
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1:45:21 --> 1:45:23
and European culture like in my opinion is based upon
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1:45:24 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ly
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1:45:27 --> 1:45:29
because even I mentioned Dante
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1:45:30 --> 1:45:31
is influenced by Virgil
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1:45:32 --> 1:45:34
but Virgil is influenced by Aeneas
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1:45:35 --> 1:45:36
and Odyssey
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1:45:37 --> 1:45:39
because if there was no Homer there would be no poem Aeneid
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1:45:41 --> 1:45:43
a lot of even episodes in Aeneid
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1:45:43 --> 1:45:44
they rhymes with a
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1:45:45 --> 1:45:47
like Homer the sort of homage
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1:45:48 --> 1:45:49
but in the by another poet
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1:45:50 --> 1:45:52
so he's doing something on the same topic
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1:45:53 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]
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1:45:55 --> 1:45:56
so that's why maybe from the top of the list
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then Ramayana it's an ancient epic poem
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from India it's important
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1:46:02 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]
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1:46:05 --> 1:46:07
India Sri Lanka Vietnam Cambodia
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1:46:08 --> 1:46:10
Thailand a lot of imagery there in the temples
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1:46:10 --> 1:46:11
music as theater
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1:46:12 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]ory
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1:46:14 --> 1:46:15
because for this agent
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it wasn't the Bible
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1:46:18 --> 1:46:19
it was Ramayana
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one of the ancient epic poems from India
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1:46:23 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] Apuleos the Golden Ass
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1:46:26 --> 1:46:27
it's a fantastic thing
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1:46:28 --> 1:46:29
it's the novel from the ancient Rome
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I think it's the start of the second century
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1:46:33 --> 1:46:34
which survived totally
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1:46:35 --> 1:46:37
and the influenced European literature
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1:46:38 --> 1:46:39
it influenced the
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1:46:40 --> 1:46:42
it influenced European right like
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1:46:43 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]e number 12
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1:46:46 --> 1:46:48
several of his novels are based upon this writer
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1:46:49 --> 1:46:51
in Don Quixote there are several episodes
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1:46:52 --> 1:46:54
which are sort of homage or remake
2029
1:46:55 --> 1:46:56
of some things from Golden Ass
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1:46:57 --> 1:46:58
and it's written in a fantastic way
2031
1:46:59 --> 1:47:01
it's the story of the man who by mistake
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1:47:02 --> 1:47:04
was turned from the human being into donkey
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1:47:05 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]l and what's going on
2034
1:47:07 --> 1:47:08
it's a fantastic book
2035
1:47:08 --> 1:47:10
then number five I put
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1:47:11 --> 1:47:13
Icelandic sagas there are a lot of them
2037
1:47:14 --> 1:47:15
but these are family sagas
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1:47:16 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]amatic
2039
1:47:18 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] one Gisli saga
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1:47:20 --> 1:47:21
is how one brother
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1:47:22 --> 1:47:23
saved another brother
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1:47:24 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]d betrayed him
2043
1:47:27 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]er
2044
1:47:30 --> 1:47:32
because of the betrayal he need to go to exile
2045
1:47:33 --> 1:47:34
he need to hide himself
2046
1:47:35 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] himself from the foes
2047
1:47:36 --> 1:47:37
it's very dramatic
2048
1:47:38 --> 1:47:40
and the thing is that it's based upon real story
2049
1:47:41 --> 1:47:42
but it's written in a literary way
2050
1:47:43 --> 1:47:44
10,000 years ago it's unimaginable
2051
1:47:45 --> 1:47:46
and Jalsaga again
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1:47:47 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]ory how the
2053
1:47:49 --> 1:47:50
the young girl
2054
1:47:51 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]er
2055
1:47:53 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]royed her three husbands
2056
1:47:55 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]ion to all her family
2057
1:47:58 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]e in this family
2058
1:48:00 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]ory
2059
1:48:02 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]
2060
1:48:04 --> 1:48:05
and you're just amazed
2061
1:48:06 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]e
2062
1:48:08 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]ories
2063
1:48:10 --> 1:48:12
which are based upon real events
2064
1:48:13 --> 1:48:14
in real locations
2065
1:48:15 --> 1:48:16
in Iceland
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1:48:17 --> 1:48:19
how they are written from a literary point of view
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1:48:20 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]e
2068
1:48:22 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]art of European literature
2069
1:48:24 --> 1:48:25
it's Beowulf
2070
1:48:26 --> 1:48:27
a poetic athetis
2071
1:48:28 --> 1:48:29
Icelandic sagas about the gods
2072
1:48:30 --> 1:48:31
the Song of Nibelungs
2073
1:48:32 --> 1:48:35
some of these things they are based again upon real stories
2074
1:48:36 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]agons
2075
1:48:38 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]agons
2076
1:48:40 --> 1:48:44
and it's interesting how the poets of the time transformed everything into some sort of legendary events and heroic deeds
2077
1:48:45 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]agons
2078
1:48:47 --> 1:48:48
number eight Kalivala
2079
1:48:49 --> 1:48:50
which was influenced by
2080
1:48:51 --> 1:48:52
which influenced Tolkien
2081
1:48:54 --> 1:48:56
this is an old Finnish epic song
2082
1:48:58 --> 1:48:59
if we look at them
2083
1:49:00 --> 1:49:02
we can say social relations
2084
1:49:03 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]e
2085
1:49:04 --> 1:49:07
and Kalivala it predates even Homed, Iliad and Odyssey
2086
1:49:08 --> 1:49:09
it's more archaic in this way
2087
1:49:10 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ate of the mind of people
2088
1:49:14 --> 1:49:15
even before kings appeared
2089
1:49:16 --> 1:49:18
and it's a fantastic piece
2090
1:49:19 --> 1:49:20
number nine Arabian Nights
2091
1:49:21 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]e know what is that
2092
1:49:23 --> 1:49:24
there are different anthologies of this
2093
1:49:25 --> 1:49:28
I will recommend the translation of Richard Burton
2094
1:49:29 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]orian England
2095
1:49:32 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]
2096
1:49:34 --> 1:49:36
entered Mecca in disguise
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1:49:37 --> 1:49:38
as an infidel
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1:49:39 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]
2099
1:49:41 --> 1:49:44
how he translated Arabian Nights is like Odyssey
2100
1:49:45 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ls
2101
1:49:48 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ic thing
2102
1:49:50 --> 1:49:52
then number ten Shahnameh
2103
1:49:53 --> 1:49:55
it's an epic poem from Persia, Iran
2104
1:49:56 --> 1:49:57
number eleven Dante
2105
1:49:58 --> 1:49:59
it's a separate story we can make a program about this
2106
1:50:00 --> 1:50:02
we can talk about Divine Comedy like thousands
2107
1:50:02 --> 1:50:05
it's the work of the genius
2108
1:50:06 --> 1:50:11
who was going through middle ages to renaissance period
2109
1:50:12 --> 1:50:14
and this is like a whole universe
2110
1:50:15 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] he describes
2111
1:50:17 --> 1:50:18
so he created universe which we see now about
2112
1:50:19 --> 1:50:21
Inferno, Purgatoria and Paradise
2113
1:50:22 --> 1:50:23
great piece
2114
1:50:24 --> 1:50:25
the next one Bacaccio
2115
1:50:26 --> 1:50:27
it's a collection of the novels
2116
1:50:28 --> 1:50:31
the same city as Dante, Florence
2117
1:50:32 --> 1:50:35
again a huge influence on European literature
2118
1:50:36 --> 1:50:37
Chossa
2119
1:50:38 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]e of sentences on each
2120
1:50:43 --> 1:50:44
that's brilliant again
2121
1:50:45 --> 1:50:46
then the next one 14
2122
1:50:47 --> 1:50:49
14 and 15 it's two utopias
2123
1:50:50 --> 1:50:52
there were several utopias written in 16th, 17th century
2124
1:50:53 --> 1:50:56
we know Thomas More who wrote utopia about ideal communist state
2125
1:50:57 --> 1:50:58
and number 15
2126
1:50:59 --> 1:51:01
there was a writer
2127
1:51:02 --> 1:51:03
called Cyrano de Bergerac
2128
1:51:04 --> 1:51:06
it's like some sort of musketeer
2129
1:51:07 --> 1:51:08
it's like almost D'Artagnan he was a real person
2130
1:51:09 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]l to the moon
2131
1:51:12 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ate
2132
1:51:14 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ed how you can go into the space travel
2133
1:51:19 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]age rockets on the sides of your spaceship
2134
1:51:24 --> 1:51:28
he describes how he felt that the gravity of the earth leaves him
2135
1:51:29 --> 1:51:30
and he feels the gravity of the moon
2136
1:51:30 --> 1:51:33
and that's written in 1640
2137
1:51:34 --> 1:51:38
so that's just the middle of 17th century
2138
1:51:39 --> 1:51:42
the time of musketeers, the time of civil war in the UK
2139
1:51:43 --> 1:51:45
and in this book he describes how in this planet
2140
1:51:46 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ate in the moon
2141
1:51:48 --> 1:51:49
there are no libraries
2142
1:51:50 --> 1:51:51
I mean like there are no books like in humans
2143
1:51:52 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] mechanical devices that are winded up
2144
1:51:55 --> 1:51:58
they put them as an ear into their earlobes
2145
1:51:58 --> 1:52:00
and the mechanical voice tells them the book
2146
1:52:01 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]udy better
2147
1:52:06 --> 1:52:08
because all the time they are wearing these things and they are studying
2148
1:52:09 --> 1:52:11
and this is guys again the middle of 17th century
2149
1:52:12 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]ions and they are a lot of fun
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so this is Cyrano de Bergerac
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the next one Francois Rabelais
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this is like the funny book to read
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1:52:22 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]or and he described a lot of
2154
1:52:24 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]ers
2155
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I cannot even describe this book
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1:52:33 --> 1:52:34
but it's just something
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1:52:35 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]e know Shakespeare
2158
1:52:38 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]s
2159
1:52:40 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]ays
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I believe that we need to read again
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because there are referrals to them all the time
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1:52:47 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction] a talk
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19th I already mentioned Queveda and Buscon
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it's like one of the picaresque novels by this minister of king of Spain
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where he describes a scandal
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the next one Pascal the philosopher
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1:53:04 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]
2168
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again it's a great poem
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which it's not a coincidence that appeared during the huge social upheaval in England
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when there was a civil war
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1:53:19 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]oric parallels in this retelling of the bible
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great piece
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22 Grimmelshausen
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1:53:30 --> 1:53:36
so this is 17th century and this writer described the life of the person during I think 7 year world war
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7 year war
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huge piece
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23 Robert Burns Scottish poet and ballad
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although he's from Scotland he doesn't belong to Scotland
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but in this century it's something
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it's about humanity it's about justice
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1:53:53 --> 1:53:55
it's about that it doesn't matter what rank you are
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and how much gold you are
2183
1:53:58 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]ill be a fool if you are a fool
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everything in a human person is his brain and his honor
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so this is Robert Burns
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1:54:07 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]
2187
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that's really important isn't it
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yeah go ahead
2189
1:54:13 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction] influential text
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1:54:16 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]ions
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should we sell our soul to the devil for the best in this world for immortality
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and there are a lot of variations of this topic in the literature before Goethe and after that
2193
1:54:28 --> 1:54:30
Daniel Defoe Robinson Crusoe
2194
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an experiment can the person survive in an uninhabited island
2195
1:54:36 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction] it's interesting how in this book when he met the first human being he turned him into slave into his servant
2196
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it's funny
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yeah but also Defoe teaches us that when everything is bad in your life
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you need to look at the bright sides of the life and you see also positives
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it's like Robinson Crusoe making a list
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1:54:57 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]d that's good
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1:54:59 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] five grains of wheat it's good
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1:55:01 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] a dog that's good
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1:55:03 --> 1:55:07
so to balance the bads and goods evils and goods in our life
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then the next two writers this is 18th century France
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1:55:12 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] before evolution
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this shows one of the book the dangerous liaison
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1:55:19 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] shows there what was the moral codex of the aristocracy
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how they were betraying each other
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framing each other
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but it's fantastic pics and the first one Manon Lusco
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1:55:32 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] psychological French novel published maybe like 1740
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and it describes what I like the psychology of the people
2213
1:55:41 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction]er the young man he describes his love
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the lady who abandons him and then comes him back saying that he loves him
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and then he abandoned so he does that like several times in the book
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1:55:54 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] time I was just tortured
2217
1:55:57 --> 1:55:58
you know tortured
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I was thinking oh my god
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and the thing is that he goes into the head of the characters
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so he describes like what he thinks and what he feels it's fantastic
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1:56:08 --> 1:56:09
it's very short
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and there are two operas
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one of them is by Puccini and another by Masnet
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1:56:22 --> 1:56:27
so French composers created both of them are masterpieces
2225
1:56:28 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]re's travels
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it's not a book for the children
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actually it's a satire if you reread it you will see the same
2228
1:56:39 --> 1:56:44
you know the same thing about the parliament about the judges about science about academy
2229
1:56:45 --> 1:56:52
it's the book which just shows that nothing has changed since the time of Anne of Stuart
2230
1:56:53 --> 1:56:56
early 18th century England
2231
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the corruption of the power and the hypocrisy and the bribe elections
2232
1:57:04 --> 1:57:05
everything is the same
2233
1:57:05 --> 1:57:08
the next one Goldsmith the Wicker Wakefield
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1:57:09 --> 1:57:13
I think it's one of the we can say proper realistic novels in 18th century
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1:57:14 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]oy adored it
2236
1:57:16 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]oy liked Wicker Wakefield
2237
1:57:18 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]ern the life and the penis of Tristan Chandler
2238
1:57:21 --> 1:57:22
that's a funny book
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1:57:23 --> 1:57:24
it's sort of literary experiment
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forget about what's his name
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1:57:28 --> 1:57:30
Marokami the Japanese writer
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1:57:31 --> 1:57:32
forget about him
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1:57:32 --> 1:57:35
all these experiments were already done in the past and one of them by Stern
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1:57:36 --> 1:57:39
so this book which promises to show the life and the penis
2245
1:57:40 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] the whole book is spent for the pregnancy of his mother
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1:57:44 --> 1:57:47
and his early like years when he's just barely working and speaking
2247
1:57:48 --> 1:57:52
like age of two and all the time the writer is just annoying and teasing us
2248
1:57:53 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] a black page there is no text there
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1:57:57 --> 1:57:58
it's a huge huge fun
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the next one 31 Schiller
2251
1:58:00 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]uart
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Tilly Oll...
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1:58:06 --> 1:58:07
what's his name?
2254
1:58:08 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]
2255
1:58:10 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction] influence Don Carlos
2256
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they influence political thinking in Europe
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1:58:15 --> 1:58:16
they are very influential
2258
1:58:17 --> 1:58:20
and it's not a surprise that one of the poems
2259
1:58:21 --> 1:58:25
by Schiller is the text lyric of Ninth Symphony by Beethoven
2260
1:58:26 --> 1:58:27
Schiller is something
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1:58:28 --> 1:58:29
very influential
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1:58:30 --> 1:58:32
the next one Anderson fairy tales
2263
1:58:33 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]en
2264
1:58:36 --> 1:58:39
it's the tales about adults in disguise of fairy tales
2265
1:58:40 --> 1:58:44
it's like the swing head and the porcelain like ballerina
2266
1:58:45 --> 1:58:47
when this swing head
2267
1:58:48 --> 1:58:49
they sit on a mantelpiece I think
2268
1:58:50 --> 1:58:51
and he said let's see the huge world
2269
1:58:52 --> 1:58:54
so she follows him to the roof but then she's afraid and says
2270
1:58:55 --> 1:58:56
oh we should return back like to the flat
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1:58:57 --> 1:58:59
for me it reminds like the husband who is restrained by his wife sort of
2272
1:59:00 --> 1:59:02
and some of the things he describes in the tales
2273
1:59:03 --> 1:59:04
it's about again it's sort of
2274
1:59:05 --> 1:59:07
isopoph tail language
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1:59:08 --> 1:59:09
isopos
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1:59:10 --> 1:59:11
isopos
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the next one Balzac
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1:59:14 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction] Illusions
2279
1:59:16 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]uff
2280
1:59:18 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction] Illusion
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1:59:20 --> 1:59:24
that's his huge novels just two or three short novels
2282
1:59:25 --> 1:59:28
Colonel Chabret which I recently reread and Per Gorio
2283
1:59:28 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]ories
2284
1:59:32 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]y Tess the Abbeville
2285
1:59:34 --> 1:59:38
so in 19th century in the literature there are three great female characters from my opinion
2286
1:59:39 --> 1:59:41
Madame Bovary by Flaubert
2287
1:59:42 --> 1:59:44
Anna Karenina and this one
2288
1:59:45 --> 1:59:46
Tess of the Abbeville
2289
1:59:47 --> 1:59:49
the next one Nikolai Gogol
2290
1:59:50 --> 1:59:51
the Russian writer Dead Souls
2291
1:59:52 --> 1:59:55
this is sort of Russian Divine Comedy where he travels through the villages
2292
1:59:55 --> 1:59:57
and he shows like the life in the country
2293
1:59:58 --> 2:00:04
unfortunately this book is untranslatable because of their a lot of juicy like Russian rich language
2294
2:00:05 --> 2:00:08
but from cultural point it's important it's very influential in Russia
2295
2:00:09 --> 2:00:12
in Russia I will say that it's maybe one of the favorite novels people read
2296
2:00:13 --> 2:00:18
so you've got your email address includes a reference to Nikolai Gogol
2297
2:00:19 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ess is like that Nikolai Gogol yeah exactly
2298
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so is he a hero of yours?
2299
2:00:25 --> 2:00:26
yeah the next one Hoffman
2300
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so this German romantic writer who was a poet and artist
2301
2:00:33 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]uff
2302
2:00:35 --> 2:00:39
short novels one of them influenced not Krakow by Tchaikovsky
2303
2:00:40 --> 2:00:43
but he wrote a funny novel called The Life and Opinion of Tom Cat Moore
2304
2:00:44 --> 2:00:46
so the book written from the point of view of Cat
2305
2:00:46 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction] pages it's like description how he recalls his time spent in the tummy of his mom when she was pregnant
2306
2:00:54 --> 2:00:57
his mother cat and when he was taken out he's still blind
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2:00:58 --> 2:01:01
how he scratched somebody and got like kicked and how he gave him a milk
2308
2:01:02 --> 2:01:09
but the fun is that in this book Hoffman I think he was possibly a disciple of Hegel in the university
2309
2:01:09 --> 2:01:14
so there are a lot of this cat learns how to speak in German
2310
2:01:15 --> 2:01:21
and quite often he makes comments in the language of philosophers of these times
2311
2:01:22 --> 2:01:26
and funny episodes are like combined with this sort of philosophy
2312
2:01:27 --> 2:01:30
it's a great book and fun just a huge and it's amazing
2313
2:01:31 --> 2:01:34
it's amazing how he again is some sort of satire at the same time
2314
2:01:34 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]e of humankind seen from the point of view of the cat
2315
2:01:40 --> 2:01:43
it's like you go into the side of the cat and you try to think like a cat
2316
2:01:44 --> 2:01:45
it's fantastic
2317
2:01:46 --> 2:01:47
so the next one Hugo
2318
2:01:48 --> 2:01:49
and could you think like a cat Yevgeny?
2319
2:01:50 --> 2:01:53
no I don't think so I need to observe the behavior of the cat
2320
2:01:54 --> 2:01:57
so I can figure out sort of what the cat is thinking I need to observe
2321
2:01:58 --> 2:02:00
the next writer I put only one book
2322
2:02:00 --> 2:02:04
I put only one book but that was my favorite writer when I was a child
2323
2:02:05 --> 2:02:08
because in my grandparents there was a library of all his works
2324
2:02:09 --> 2:02:10
because he wrote several great novels
2325
2:02:11 --> 2:02:17
Les Miserables, The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Ninety-three
2326
2:02:18 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]ache
2327
2:02:21 --> 2:02:28
because it gives a description of the seismic events like revolution close to our time
2328
2:02:28 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]aw parallels what's going now with this like social shift like huge events
2329
2:02:35 --> 2:02:38
because I think we are living in some sort of great events these days
2330
2:02:39 --> 2:02:45
the next one Dickens again a huge prolific writer a lot of stuff but they leave just only Oliver Twist
2331
2:02:46 --> 2:02:47
you cannot read everything yeah
2332
2:02:48 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]oevsky It's Must
2333
2:02:52 --> 2:02:57
Brother Karamazov I will put it on the same level as Don Quixote
2334
2:02:58 --> 2:03:04
so it comprises universe and again it's very so it book which have all the humanity there
2335
2:03:05 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]ers a lot of philosophy a lot of thoughts which are relevant
2336
2:03:09 --> 2:03:12
a lot of prophetic moments a lot of prophetic moments
2337
2:03:13 --> 2:03:16
so and again these books they grow bigger
2338
2:03:16 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction] is some sort of version of Don Quixote
2339
2:03:19 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]er is some sort of Christ figure who is like sort of sort of sacred idiot
2340
2:03:25 --> 2:03:28
the next one I mentioned today already Emile Zoliat, Therese Raken
2341
2:03:29 --> 2:03:33
so this possibly one of the books you can start reading even today
2342
2:03:34 --> 2:03:35
you don't need to read other books for this one
2343
2:03:36 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction] three main characters
2344
2:03:41 --> 2:03:43
and it follows them from their birth to their death
2345
2:03:43 --> 2:03:48
and it's fantastic again in psychology getting into it's like love triangle
2346
2:03:49 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]er which is unsolved and the writer gets into the head of the people
2347
2:03:54 --> 2:03:57
and we can see their evolution Zoliat is amazing writer
2348
2:03:58 --> 2:04:03
Germinal it's about the strike on the mine again it's some sort of realism
2349
2:04:04 --> 2:04:09
where by some magic you go inside of the life of these people how they work what they were doing
2350
2:04:09 --> 2:04:13
and the end of the book when the mine is flooded resembles just Titanic
2351
2:04:14 --> 2:04:16
love triangle and somebody has to survive
2352
2:04:17 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction] read again it's psychology and also we're trying to figure out why people do what they do
2353
2:04:28 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]ays I think it's Dollhouse the main character the lady
2354
2:04:32 --> 2:04:37
so she realized that because of the owner because of her past crime
2355
2:04:38 --> 2:04:41
she can't stay with her husband and her child and she abandons the family
2356
2:04:42 --> 2:04:45
so it's very paradoxical like decision of this lady
2357
2:04:46 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction] forget about this crime stay with the family
2358
2:04:50 --> 2:04:56
but this one some sort of yeah you're we need to look like why she's doing that it's fantastic
2359
2:04:56 --> 2:05:02
the next one Pondklais so that was a romantic playwright and poet
2360
2:05:03 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]ays are good and the novel Michael Callas it was by the way there was adaptation of this play recently
2361
2:05:14 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]el so this is the writer from France sorry from Belgium but he's French writing
2362
2:05:19 --> 2:05:24
and this is the legend of Thierry Lundenspiegel so this is the national character of Netherlands
2363
2:05:24 --> 2:05:33
of these areas when they are fighting with the Spanish because Netherlands were the colony in 15th 16th century of Spain
2364
2:05:34 --> 2:05:39
because of Habsburgs and the guys who tried to control this Protestant territories and eventually there was a revolution
2365
2:05:40 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction] after 40 years this Spanish rule and the book of Belgian writer who is writing in French
2366
2:05:48 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]er and description of these events sort of folklore figure must read
2367
2:05:56 --> 2:06:07
the next one Melville Moby Dick it's like Jaws spillback we got a captain who is following somebody you know to his death
2368
2:06:08 --> 2:06:17
but this is intermingled with the description of this whale trade what the how they hunt and also a lot of sort of allusions to Bible
2369
2:06:18 --> 2:06:28
and a lot of philosophy and a lot of great like episodes it's good the next one Mary Mayer this is the French
2370
2:06:29 --> 2:06:36
writer of 19th century he wrote psychological novels and also Chronicles of Rain of Charles the Ninth this is novel very short one
2371
2:06:37 --> 2:06:46
I think it's like 50 pages it's the description of the religious war in France in the end of 16th century when during the marriage
2372
2:06:46 --> 2:06:55
there was a wedding of King de Navarre and the daughter of the sister of the French King so Catholics invited Huguenots for this wedding
2373
2:06:56 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction] Bartholomew night they assassinated everyone if you recall like most of them so it's something
2374
2:07:05 --> 2:07:12
and the book describes two brothers who belongs one of them is Catholic another Protestant it's about civil strife and about this
2375
2:07:12 --> 2:07:21
again like huge seismic events in the France the next one psychological writer from France who was in some way
2376
2:07:22 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]e of Russian writer Turgenev Mopassan so his two novels Bellamy about the journalist and Unvie like The Life of the Lady from her childhood
2377
2:07:33 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]ories which are very concise like two three pages they're just masterpieces the next one
2378
2:07:42 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]yle the psychology the development the ending Guido Mopassan the next one 47 Edgar Allan Pooh so this is American romantic writer and poet
2379
2:07:56 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]ories I think are unsurpassable Gothic novels forget about Stephen King people read like Stephen King
2380
2:08:04 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]n't read Edgar Allan Pooh this is something and this is real when you read them you just believe what he's writing although he can write about Macabre and Gothic
2381
2:08:15 --> 2:08:26
the next one Walter Scott again this is important writer in Europe he wrote first important historical novels which influence the historical genre in Europe in the world
2382
2:08:26 --> 2:08:36
without Walter Scott there will be no other writers like he because he was for the first time showing that you can do simple thing take historic events huge historical canvas
2383
2:08:37 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]e on the front of this canvas and these people they speak in different genres so in the regional novels you can see the difference
2384
2:08:47 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]e from the bottom speak servants how aristocracy speaks it's like amazing and it's like a clockwork mechanism the action is just developing developing and you're all the
2385
2:09:00 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]and all the French writer the red and black realistic novel from France then the next one Mark Twain the adventures of Huckleberry Finn
2386
2:09:10 --> 2:09:24
I will say like epic thing this personal story of this boy who travels with African American who absconded or like run away from these plantations and they're joining on Mississippi
2387
2:09:25 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction] encounter many situations historical background when there was still slavery in the US then we go with Leo Tolstoy Leo Tolstoy and Karen and Elisabeth
2388
2:09:40 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]ion so this is a novel about the young aristocrat who is summoned to be a jury in a court over the prostitute who poisoned her customer
2389
2:09:53 --> 2:10:04
and when he goes to jury he recognizes that these prostitutes is a girl whom he seduced and just abandoned years ago and the story how he redeemed himself
2390
2:10:04 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]ocrat and the count I think he was a count or Duke he just left his family and went with this girl into exile into Siberia
2391
2:10:14 --> 2:10:23
it's like a huge piece from for this book the Russian Orthodox Church they I'll say like they expelled from Russian Church Tolstoy for this book
2392
2:10:23 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction] with his fathers and sons on the even sportsman sketches many writers in Europe they learned how to write from Turgenev Oscar Wilde the picture of Dorian Gray
2393
2:10:38 --> 2:10:55
the profoundness about his experience in prison [privacy contact redaction]erpieces in short stories Radit Kipling who was born British and Indian in the subcontinent
2394
2:10:55 --> 2:11:10
but eventually turned to be one of the great although he was a sinner of imperialism in Soviet writer all the time he was translating because there was a great literary qualities in all his writings
2395
2:11:11 --> 2:11:21
take up the white man's burden take forth the best you breathe yeah with the comments obviously the next one Walt Whitman the great poet from the United States Flaubert
2396
2:11:21 --> 2:11:38
I already mentioned Madame Bovary and then sentimental education two novels must read Anton Chekhov so this is we can say antipode for Ibsen if Ibsen something extraordinary happens with the people in Chekhov is just description of boring life in Russia just
2397
2:11:38 --> 2:12:03
and between that there is something else and all his plays about dignity and the values what's important and again the place about people who are between the times going from one era to another one it's interesting like to see how the whole system of their ideas collapses how the new appears it's like interesting to see like the shifting moments
2398
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it's not it's not a surprise that many great books appeared just at the time of the seismic movements the next one Akutagawa Rinoseke so this is I think master number one Japanese writer who wrote novels and short stories some of them are influenced by European literature but they are like in Japanese disguise
2399
2:12:24 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction] seen Kurosawa movies he made several adaptations of Shakespeare so he took Shakespeare's place but they're in like Japanese disguise so the same was with Rinoseke Eva Andreech so he described in these two books the beach on Drina Chronicles of Trabnik so he describes area in former Yugoslavia in the time where it was still under Ottoman Empire and how the indigenous people lived in the region
2400
2:12:54 --> 2:13:23
and in this area a lot of influences a lot of strains were like in the cauldron you know Turks Arabs Jews Christians you know Russia Austria France and it's interesting to see how complex is it how complex is it so yeah he got Nobel Prize for these books the next one Louis Aragon so the French writer this is the book published in the same year as Dr. Zhivago
2401
2:13:24 --> 2:13:52
Holy Week it's a historical novel with the elements of stream of consciousness which goes to the time when Napoleon returned from his first exile during his like 100 days so and what was happening in Paris and around Paris at this time in this novel again the writer goes into the head of the people and a lot of like historic shows like a huge canvas of history and also personal history of the people
2402
2:13:52 --> 2:14:19
Holy Week 63 Henry Barbus I will say Under Fire is the best book about the First World War is the best there are other great books like Nothing Has Changed on the Western Front or for example Hemingway his Farewell to the Arms we can say also about the First World War but the way how the trenches are described and also how people get into this madness the best one is this one is something that I think is very interesting
2403
2:14:22 --> 2:14:44
and what was the name of that book? Under Fire. Oh right. Okay. Henry Barbus Under Fire and that's his personal experience. So who is the author? Henry Barbus. It's like the way how you pronounce in French yeah?
2404
2:14:44 --> 2:15:11
And from his personal experience he delivers this experience and again from we can say realistic point of view we can see everything we can smell everything we can feel everything and also there is a humanistic touch in this even when he's describing like bodies which are mutilated or something horrible happens something like going down in Palestine he is using sort of
2405
2:15:11 --> 2:15:33
of poetical things even to describe like the way of this of these bodies with a static thing he trying to relieve us from this torture like witnessing and traumatized by what he's describing actually where people blown like into pieces or he described like somebody's body on this wire above the wire.
2406
2:15:33 --> 2:15:[privacy contact redaction] say that the rest of the book the rest of the list it will be 20th century and the principle is just from every country or every continent for one to writers.
2407
2:15:53 --> 2:16:07
So the Russian writer will be Ivan Bunin he got Nobel Prize for his short stories. Yaroslav Khashak this is another good book about this first world war and it's not about atrocities it's about fun.
2408
2:16:07 --> 2:16:18
How the guy volunteered to go he's like he did from the village here how he goes to the trenches. So and it's like fun a lot of fun in this book it's like a comical book.
2409
2:16:18 --> 2:16:38
Then the British saga goes worthy the Russian writer Maxim Gorky then drives an American tragedy it's about how the guy killed his fiance just to get into another marriage and how he was found like and trialed Icelandic writer how the Luxus.
2410
2:16:38 --> 2:16:47
So these two books it's great to see how these books are connected to the great Icelandic literature which I mentioned before the sagas and their poetry.
2411
2:16:47 --> 2:17:[privacy contact redaction]ories apart from the novel Martin in Martin is in some sort of biography but it shows how the person suffers to get to be acknowledged writer nobody wants them to publish and how the things destroys him like to suicide.
2412
2:17:06 --> 2:17:16
Lucy this is the Chinese classics of 20th century famous for short stories and then we got two brothers man one of them professor on the right.
2413
2:17:16 --> 2:17:28
And another one Thomas man who is philosophic he liked the German Tolstoy will say like Tolstoy plus the staff ski but on the German soil buddenbrocks Joseph and his brothers magic mountain.
2414
2:17:28 --> 2:17:43
Vladimir Mike Oski although he's a poet his point was influenced in the 20th century poetry in Italy in France in Spain so and the path from the point he describes a lot of again seismic events around the Russian Revolution.
2415
2:17:43 --> 2:18:00
Oh my God I'm on 76 so through the countries Danish writer Martin others and exit so this is about childhood in Denmark and how it how it was in the end of 19th century beginning of 20th.
2416
2:18:00 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]ophe it's the life of the composer who resembles slightly bithoven good realistic novel and psychological as well stained back the grapes of wrath.
2417
2:18:12 --> 2:18:18
So this is I think the time of depression the states are being drawn out the gore who was a prize.
2418
2:18:18 --> 2:18:36
Who was a prize the Nobel Prize laureate his poems and short stories again great humanist some of his stories is just amazing there is a story called Kabul eval about the little girl if you find it it should be on the Internet free of charge just three four pages just read it.
2419
2:18:36 --> 2:18:50
Because there is like a pearl in the novel in the short story genre polkner light in August dimension like the great writer no need to like to do to do some Hemingway.
2420
2:18:50 --> 2:18:58
Yeah so this is something different to 19th century how to write without adjectives without other just nouns and verbs.
2421
2:18:58 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction]e but describe what they think and what they feel with the small touches with the description of environment yeah in the way they behave behave so that's that's amazing.
2422
2:19:11 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction] the same effect where we know what the character is feeling and farewell to us I don't think it's a book and the war book or a book about the first world war I think it's the greatest love story.
2423
2:19:24 --> 2:19:33
That's from my point of view of a well terms is the next one Michael Sherlock of it's a great epic novel about the Civil War in Russia.
2424
2:19:33 --> 2:19:36
The Civil War in Russia.
2425
2:19:36 --> 2:19:42
Gabriel Garcia Marcus 100 years of solitude it's something like Don Quixote like Bible.
2426
2:19:42 --> 2:19:50
Where the book where magical things they are portrayed as natural and natural things portrayed as magical.
2427
2:19:50 --> 2:19:57
I think it's some sort of poetry poetry in prose the next one 84 the name of the Rose ball the Lena.
2428
2:19:57 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction]uff there and these books survive multiple readings multiple readings some people say that it's difficult to read them.
2429
2:20:06 --> 2:20:14
I for some time I refused to read one of his books I was convinced by my colleague I read it once twice but then I appreciated that.
2430
2:20:14 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction]ories Christopher Nolan's movies will be impossible without his short stories this paradoxes and referrals to everything.
2431
2:20:24 --> 2:20:39
Pablo Neruda I think he was one of the greatest poets in the 20th century he got Nobel Prize in 1972 and 73 when the coup d'etat by Pinochet happened in September several days.
2432
2:20:39 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction]e by the way he thought that he was poisoned so this great poet and was the name of him Losa was that sorry.
2433
2:20:49 --> 2:21:00
Was that the proven sorry he was Chilean he was he was he was from Chilean okay who is the Peruvian who is the Peruvian writer Losa was it.
2434
2:21:00 --> 2:21:05
He's in my list he's number 89 Mario Mario Vargas Losa.
2435
2:21:05 --> 2:21:10
He became president of Peru was it.
2436
2:21:10 --> 2:21:20
I don't think so maybe he was a minister but the thing is with Marco Vargas Losa he started as a left person but then he ended like as a pro-American right wing guy.
2437
2:21:20 --> 2:21:23
I don't know if he's a regalia.
2438
2:21:23 --> 2:21:26
I think he's good for president but he didn't win that's right.
2439
2:21:26 --> 2:21:33
Maybe but possibly you're talking about somebody else but I don't recall that Vargas Losa was the president maybe you're talking about.
2440
2:21:33 --> 2:21:37
He wasn't the president but he stood for president I think.
2441
2:21:37 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction] didn't follow his career as a right wing politician he is not interested to me but he's.
2442
2:21:43 --> 2:21:45
Didn't he win the Nobel Prize.
2443
2:21:45 --> 2:21:47
I think yes I think yes.
2444
2:21:47 --> 2:21:49
Yeah.
2445
2:21:49 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction]anislav Lem he's from Poland and his greatest novel Solaris.
2446
2:21:55 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction]ations on this book on this book which have multiple like layers which is mystical beside like this just space space space travel and he wrote.
2447
2:22:09 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction]ed in Lem he wrote other fantastic short science fiction novels in different genres some of them are satire like Galvest travels.
2448
2:22:18 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction]ives but this is the greatest it's like philosophy and sort of prediction about the future.
2449
2:22:26 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction] we already discussed him today the guy who looked under we can say with a slow motion every moment in his life yeah.
2450
2:22:34 --> 2:22:40
His books you will not appreciate them if you don't read them all but you don't have time to read and read them all.
2451
2:22:40 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction] I put I think four in the list.
2452
2:22:46 --> 2:22:53
The next one French writer who was a pilot and died during the Second World War Santok Zipary.
2453
2:22:53 --> 2:22:59
So he wrote this thing Southern Mail Night Flight and everyone know the Little Prince.
2454
2:22:59 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]ic writer he was a dog in Soviet Union although he wasn't a communist he was a dog for his humanism.
2455
2:23:07 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]t look after your planet save it.
2456
2:23:13 --> 2:23:20
Yeah the next one couldn't call us and that it so this is Latin America.
2457
2:23:20 --> 2:23:22
The next one to it will be from Latin America.
2458
2:23:22 --> 2:23:31
So that's the best writers from this part of the world together with the whole he Louis Borgeson public in the next one.
2459
2:23:31 --> 2:23:40
Heinrich Böhl so that was a German writer who was in sort of immigration spiritual immigration in Ireland.
2460
2:23:40 --> 2:23:50
And his book his novel and the famous short novel Katharina Bloom which got like movie adaptation and Irish Journal is like worth to read.
2461
2:23:50 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction] Italian writer I will call him it's like Italian the state of ski Italian the state of ski.
2462
2:23:59 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction] two books they were even adapted into the movies again get into the head of the characters.
2463
2:24:05 --> 2:24:15
Showing social background and show how the environment the family and the social events influence decisions of the people and to their demise.
2464
2:24:15 --> 2:24:17
Yeah.
2465
2:24:17 --> 2:24:18
Ninety five.
2466
2:24:18 --> 2:24:21
So this is the 60s and 70s.
2467
2:24:21 --> 2:24:23
The Japanese writer.
2468
2:24:23 --> 2:24:25
So the next will be Camila has a salad.
2469
2:24:25 --> 2:24:27
This is the Spanish writer Carlos Fuentes.
2470
2:24:27 --> 2:24:29
This is the writer from Mexico.
2471
2:24:29 --> 2:24:36
So again the writers to read because we need to know what the great achievements in this part of the world.
2472
2:24:36 --> 2:24:41
Although there are more Mexican writers but again for shortness I just put the best one.
2473
2:24:41 --> 2:24:45
Lausanne the Chinese another Chinese classic.
2474
2:24:45 --> 2:24:50
So cat country it's like anti utopia which he wrote in the early 30s.
2475
2:24:50 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction] like Cyrano de Bergerac.
2476
2:24:54 --> 2:25:[privacy contact redaction]er goes not to the moon but the character the Chinese astronaut goes to the to the Mars and there is a top and cat country where countries ruled by cat civilization.
2477
2:25:05 --> 2:25:08
And there are many prophetic moments.
2478
2:25:08 --> 2:25:15
The book is written in early 30s but he describes there something which looks like cultural revolution in China in the in 60s.
2479
2:25:15 --> 2:25:17
It's amazing.
2480
2:25:17 --> 2:25:[privacy contact redaction]ually he was people believe beaten to death.
2481
2:25:22 --> 2:25:29
He was he already retired but he was perceived as a like enemy of state and which were like writer.
2482
2:25:29 --> 2:25:40
So either he was beaten to death by this red gods this like crazy youths or he committed suicide after that.
2483
2:25:40 --> 2:25:43
And cat country it's translated into English.
2484
2:25:43 --> 2:25:55
I think it's if people know 1984 or this wonderful world or animal farm they definitely should read like Thomas More Cyrano de Bergerac and this guy this guy.
2485
2:25:55 --> 2:26:00
It's a fantastic how you how you predict cultural revolution that will happen in 30 years.
2486
2:26:00 --> 2:26:02
It's it's an unimaginable.
2487
2:26:02 --> 2:26:06
The next one the Japanese writer again.
2488
2:26:06 --> 2:26:09
So this is Japan.
2489
2:26:09 --> 2:26:[privacy contact redaction]l to Japan don't travel unless you read Rino se care I could have gotten a sicker or and this writer must read must read.
2490
2:26:21 --> 2:26:28
I didn't include me Shama in the list because everybody know Osama Mishima who wrote The Golden Temple.
2491
2:26:28 --> 2:26:[privacy contact redaction] one is who like our to sell a great experiment in Latin American writing again just to show that.
2492
2:26:37 --> 2:26:44
Not nothing new under the world and in Latin America there is literally process and the people they also can play with words.
2493
2:26:44 --> 2:26:45
Yeah.
2494
2:26:45 --> 2:26:46
OK.
2495
2:26:46 --> 2:26:49
So that's brilliant.
2496
2:26:49 --> 2:26:51
Again.
2497
2:26:51 --> 2:27:00
So I never I didn't think you'd complete it but you have done and you're very passionate and also you're very determined.
2498
2:27:00 --> 2:27:[privacy contact redaction] four years you you're very wise through reading all these books.
2499
2:27:09 --> 2:27:13
And so thank you so much for coming on.
2500
2:27:13 --> 2:27:[privacy contact redaction]ions if anybody wants to put their hands up.
2501
2:27:16 --> 2:27:20
John Lukacs or you've gone what you want.
2502
2:27:20 --> 2:27:[privacy contact redaction]ions please put your hands up.
2503
2:27:23 --> 2:27:28
Sorry about the format today.
2504
2:27:28 --> 2:27:32
Again a very impressive.
2505
2:27:32 --> 2:27:40
I was wondering if you were going to give some of your opinions on current events but I guess I'll have to wait for a second round.
2506
2:27:40 --> 2:27:44
But I'm very curious when are we going to see a book written by you.
2507
2:27:44 --> 2:27:46
Sure.
2508
2:27:46 --> 2:27:[privacy contact redaction]ion.
2509
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OK.
2510
2:27:49 --> 2:27:54
I think I doubt that there will be some sort of great fiction.
2511
2:27:54 --> 2:27:59
Because I should be sort of sort of humble.
2512
2:27:59 --> 2:28:07
I believe that great books they come from the people who get great life experience.
2513
2:28:07 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction] made this conclusion upon two books.
2514
2:28:11 --> 2:28:23
Don Quixote with his Cervantes Miguel who survived the battle wounded survive the capture in the Saljea.
2515
2:28:23 --> 2:28:29
Then and execution and then he survived this imprisonment in Spain.
2516
2:28:29 --> 2:28:33
So there is something in life where you see a lot of stuff.
2517
2:28:33 --> 2:28:40
And the same with the same with the same with the same with the same.
2518
2:28:40 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction] Kenny.
2519
2:28:42 --> 2:28:52
He's asking you that because you have all these characters in your head and you've got an amazing memory with instant recall of just about everything you want to get hold of.
2520
2:28:52 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction]en to you.
2521
2:28:55 --> 2:28:58
And I don't think you realize how wonderful this is.
2522
2:28:58 --> 2:29:20
I mean, I think what I would like you to do is write a book on what you've just told us now with a little bit more thought maybe and and just guide people through why they should read the classics and the classics you like most and and why they're important, you know, for people to read that kind of thing.
2523
2:29:21 --> 2:29:[privacy contact redaction] to mull over because I could tell he's not really enthused by this idea.
2524
2:29:26 --> 2:29:37
But, you know, when I when I write myself because I put out a couple of books and trust me, they're nowhere near as good as the ones you're picking out.
2525
2:29:37 --> 2:29:40
They're more complaints than anything else.
2526
2:29:40 --> 2:29:42
But there's a lot of information there.
2527
2:29:42 --> 2:29:48
But I take my cues when I'm being creative for my blog from all the books that I've read.
2528
2:29:48 --> 2:29:51
And I'm always pulling on examples.
2529
2:29:51 --> 2:29:55
And I've mastered the colorful analogy.
2530
2:29:55 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction]e, I think, respond a good bit when you touch on something that they're familiar with and tie it to something that's going on.
2531
2:30:10 --> 2:30:15
It's a great way to make a point delicately when you have to.
2532
2:30:15 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction] think you'd be wonderful at that.
2533
2:30:18 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction]ephen put out said you're a bit of a whistleblower.
2534
2:30:22 --> 2:30:25
You got tagged. We all did here.
2535
2:30:25 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction] think that your insights would be good professionally.
2536
2:30:29 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction]ically coming from a man like you is so well read.
2537
2:30:36 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction]ly.
2538
2:30:39 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction] should be unique, I believe, in sort of maybe topic potentially and also in a way like innovative technique and breakthrough.
2539
2:30:51 --> 2:30:57
And the thing is that there is a lot of already informational noise, we can say.
2540
2:30:57 --> 2:31:[privacy contact redaction]uff written through the centuries that we don't have life even to read this.
2541
2:31:05 --> 2:31:[privacy contact redaction] humanity to increase this informational noise to something else.
2542
2:31:13 --> 2:31:[privacy contact redaction] to return quickly again to Dostoevsky.
2543
2:31:16 --> 2:31:22
So I said that Cervantes, yeah, a soldier who survived captivity and injury and prison.
2544
2:31:22 --> 2:31:[privacy contact redaction]oevsky, who was a revolutionary.
2545
2:31:24 --> 2:31:[privacy contact redaction]oevsky, it was like that.
2546
2:31:27 --> 2:31:33
In his revolutionary cycle, he was captured with his friends and they were sentenced to execution by a firing squad.
2547
2:31:33 --> 2:31:44
So they're standing in front of this firing squad and with the sex on their heads, he's thinking, what would be my last words I tell to my comrade?
2548
2:31:44 --> 2:31:52
And then the next moment, the messenger from the palace, winter palace arrives and say, oh, the Tsar pardoned you.
2549
2:31:52 --> 2:31:55
You go to exile in Siberia, help yourself.
2550
2:31:55 --> 2:32:09
And then he go to Siberia where he describes this excruciating experience to be with the thieves or whoever like all the and also different people in this hard labor placement.
2551
2:32:09 --> 2:32:18
So and I was thinking that's not a surprise that after that Dostoevsky is writing like his version of Christianity, what to say?
2552
2:32:18 --> 2:32:24
Yeah, somebody asked me in the in the chat, I see how I find the time to read.
2553
2:32:24 --> 2:32:36
I also find myself, ask myself and I recall that for some time ago I found the list what I was reading when I was in medical school in the Soviet Union.
2554
2:32:36 --> 2:32:[privacy contact redaction]udy.
2555
2:32:38 --> 2:32:[privacy contact redaction]
2556
2:32:41 --> 2:32:[privacy contact redaction] to the UK, for example, we study six years.
2557
2:32:44 --> 2:32:54
And in addition to anatomy, surgery, physiology, biochemistry, we have we had additional subjects in the medical school.
2558
2:32:54 --> 2:32:56
It was proper Latin.
2559
2:32:56 --> 2:33:05
It was proper ancient Greek, not to the level of philologists, but to the level that you can at least read, understand like simple texts.
2560
2:33:05 --> 2:33:12
There was psychology, history of medicine, history of the of the communist party of the Soviet Union and sociology.
2561
2:33:12 --> 2:33:15
So and I mean, I looked on the list.
2562
2:33:15 --> 2:33:[privacy contact redaction], by the way, I read them like Thomas Mann, huge novels, philosophical.
2563
2:33:20 --> 2:33:25
I read during the university, almost all important.
2564
2:33:25 --> 2:33:33
Ancient Rome and Greece literature I read in the university and in this list, just some pieces of it.
2565
2:33:33 --> 2:33:44
But it includes, you know, pre-Homeric hymns, Homer, ancient lyrics, ancient Rome lyrics and the lyrics of ancient Rome,
2566
2:33:44 --> 2:34:00
because there were a lot of great guys there, Catullus, Avidius with his metamorphosis, the great Greek historians, Herodotus, Themostoclus, you know, Xenophon, Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, Plutarchus.
2567
2:34:00 --> 2:34:04
Oh my God. And so this is during university.
2568
2:34:04 --> 2:34:12
And because I was all the time put down like how the time is spent and I knew how many pages I can read of this and that.
2569
2:34:12 --> 2:34:[privacy contact redaction]anning that.
2570
2:34:14 --> 2:34:[privacy contact redaction] one book at the time.
2571
2:34:17 --> 2:34:26
But since then, I am using sort of the method, how say it, it's like umbrella, umbrella, not umbrella.
2572
2:34:26 --> 2:34:33
In Chinese seconds, there's like a trick where they put like the saucers like to rotate on the poles and they run like together.
2573
2:34:33 --> 2:34:39
So I'm reading mostly at the same time several things by small pieces.
2574
2:34:39 --> 2:34:43
I'm not Russian. When I'm reading, I'm like reading aloud in my head.
2575
2:34:43 --> 2:34:[privacy contact redaction]ure, I don't rush. It's not for the tick box.
2576
2:34:47 --> 2:34:[privacy contact redaction]and what they're writing.
2577
2:34:49 --> 2:34:52
So I'm reading and it's like from the same period.
2578
2:34:52 --> 2:35:03
If I'm if, for example, we had a discussion about Don Quixote with Karam in April and then I begin to read at this point Don Quixote.
2579
2:35:03 --> 2:35:10
So at the same moment in parallel, I'm reading plays at the same day.
2580
2:35:10 --> 2:35:19
So like 20 pages, for example, of this play of Calderon at the same day, like Arabic poetry from Andalusia.
2581
2:35:19 --> 2:35:23
10 pages or 15 pages from the Quivada.
2582
2:35:23 --> 2:35:33
So it's like that in parallel, several things from to have the sort of three dimensional thing and a lot of things like they associate with each other and resonates.
2583
2:35:33 --> 2:35:39
So that's my method. And the way I'm trying to avoid digital devices.
2584
2:35:39 --> 2:35:57
So I'm checking my I'm aiming like to check my notifications, like messages like at nine, for example, at 12, you know, like every three hours and sometimes like even making bigger period not to check like from three to nine because it will be a destruction.
2585
2:35:57 --> 2:36:05
You're restating something I threw in the chat response to someone else earlier.
2586
2:36:05 --> 2:36:18
You know, we since all this digital stuff has invaded our lives, there's a tremendous advantage to be able to just simply press a button and talk to anyone in the world.
2587
2:36:18 --> 2:36:24
But there's also an information overload. We didn't get more hours in the day.
2588
2:36:24 --> 2:36:[privacy contact redaction] got more things to do. And this is a drawback. This has a very insidious nature.
2589
2:36:32 --> 2:36:[privacy contact redaction] say, you know, you have to.
2590
2:36:35 --> 2:36:41
What all that is, it replaced other things of value.
2591
2:36:41 --> 2:36:[privacy contact redaction]ill live in both worlds.
2592
2:36:47 --> 2:36:[privacy contact redaction] say, you know, to anybody who cares that we need to pull back from this one a little bit. We have more than enough.
2593
2:36:56 --> 2:37:[privacy contact redaction]ress again that, yeah, I always say that reading a fiction a day and it should include all genres, novel, short stories, poetry and drama, all genres, because there is a beauty in every genre and the poetry as well.
2594
2:37:17 --> 2:37:28
So, guys, you just don't imagine how much great stuff is left in poetry in the East, in India, Korea, Vietnam, I mean, the Middle Ages.
2595
2:37:28 --> 2:37:44
I don't mention even Chinese poetry where there's a long tradition, where it's fun to see how they take the same topic, observing moon like at night and how they try to create that and how it's some sort of interaction and dialogue through the centuries between different poets.
2596
2:37:44 --> 2:37:52
So I think it's important to allocate the time for reading every day at certain time to make it a habit.
2597
2:37:52 --> 2:37:54
It's like going to work regularly.
2598
2:37:54 --> 2:37:57
You know, it's like the work.
2599
2:37:57 --> 2:38:[privacy contact redaction]em when I read several things.
2600
2:38:02 --> 2:38:15
If I sort of like bored or like tired with this text, do you know, like with the play when I'm losing concentration, I am putting it aside and I'm changing sort of activity.
2601
2:38:15 --> 2:38:19
I'm like reboosted and I'm trying to read like with renewed interest.
2602
2:38:19 --> 2:38:[privacy contact redaction]n't finished yesterday, there is an element there of 1001 night because you want to read further like what's going in this play, like what's the intrigue as well.
2603
2:38:30 --> 2:38:37
And apart from that, with some of the texts, it's not sort of necessary to read the whole thing.
2604
2:38:37 --> 2:38:56
It's necessary at least, for example, Divine Comedy of Dante, you know, it's better to know the most important bits of it and to read the sentence on context like Cantos several, several times to the point that all the images, the way how they are developed just retain in your brain.
2605
2:38:56 --> 2:39:08
So in parallel with my sort of Spanish period now, because it will change when I will satiate myself, I will go like to sort of French period or some other.
2606
2:39:08 --> 2:39:20
But at the same point, because these guys in Baroque Spanish Golden Period, they were under the influence of Latin literature, especially Ovid and Virgil.
2607
2:39:20 --> 2:39:35
So at the same time, I'm reading important bits of Virgil and it's very slow reading guys very slow because every like line there's like mythological creature or geographical thing or whatever.
2608
2:39:35 --> 2:39:[privacy contact redaction]ually what he's describing and he's describing.
2609
2:39:39 --> 2:39:42
OK, this is the start of Sec of Troy.
2610
2:39:42 --> 2:39:47
This is the guy deceived them that the horse is OK.
2611
2:39:47 --> 2:39:[privacy contact redaction] who said like, oh, this is a dangerous animal we need to destroy.
2612
2:39:53 --> 2:40:[privacy contact redaction]and like what he's describing in the verse at this point and how every and again, a lot of referrals, a lot of references.
2613
2:40:02 --> 2:40:04
And if you read it several times.
2614
2:40:04 --> 2:40:13
So in this case, if I don't sort of keep in my head structure of this versus from in it or from Dante the next day, I will not read the next like lines.
2615
2:40:13 --> 2:40:[privacy contact redaction]ay on this thing unless it's like totally clear because these texts when I say like Homer Virgil Ovid very influential.
2616
2:40:25 --> 2:40:31
So they influence Latin literature, not to mention like Roman and ancient Greece, but also like Renaissance and the stuff.
2617
2:40:31 --> 2:40:36
Do you know all the roots are there? All the roots are there.
2618
2:40:36 --> 2:40:40
Oh, thank you. You can have a brilliant answer.
2619
2:40:40 --> 2:40:46
And Caram to whom I'm indebted for telling me about you.
2620
2:40:46 --> 2:40:49
And I said, oh, that sounds interesting.
2621
2:40:49 --> 2:40:53
And that's when I asked him whether he could help me get you on.
2622
2:40:53 --> 2:40:58
So I'm glad I got you on. Great. Thank you so much.
2623
2:40:58 --> 2:41:03
You're going to go ahead, Karen. Yeah, that was amazing, wasn't it, guys?
2624
2:41:03 --> 2:41:18
I think we can all agree that if Kenny is an authentic force of nature, which who I had the pleasure of meeting in my first year of clinical medicine when I was 24 years old in the north of Scotland.
2625
2:41:18 --> 2:41:26
And I don't think anybody in that area had met somebody as unique as my friend here.
2626
2:41:26 --> 2:41:[privacy contact redaction]arted obviously that part of his career. He started a lot later than the rest of us.
2627
2:41:31 --> 2:41:[privacy contact redaction]ood out like a sore thumb and he did his best to stand out even even more than that.
2628
2:41:39 --> 2:42:[privacy contact redaction] to say that, you know, I grew up in the UK following, let's call it the dumbed down curriculum that we have now and where I hear speeches by, you know, Robert Kennedy, the elder who's passed away talking about certain poems.
2629
2:42:02 --> 2:42:08
And I think God, I've never even heard of that author, let alone the poem, never mind the line.
2630
2:42:08 --> 2:42:[privacy contact redaction] been robbed. And if Kenny's been, you know, a really important part of my personal development and he through his difficulties in psychiatry, which he stumbled on quite innocently when he realized that none of his patients were getting any better.
2631
2:42:23 --> 2:42:[privacy contact redaction] like coming back to clinic and having all number of issues started to do his own reading to try and solve the problem.
2632
2:42:33 --> 2:42:44
And then he worked out that, you know, there was this tremendous fraud and abuse in that in that industry, which is very much an industry.
2633
2:42:44 --> 2:43:07
So he is he's he's had some incredibly significant challenges over the last few years, including and we have all the paperwork and again, you have again, he's never signed any non disclosure agreements and the dirt we have on some people that are working day in day out to allegedly take care of patients.
2634
2:43:07 --> 2:43:21
Is a disgrace. And I'm talking about black and white lies, people presenting a topic X in writing and then changing it retrospectively and thinking they're going to get away with it.
2635
2:43:21 --> 2:43:[privacy contact redaction]s, inversion of the truth and all of the worst things that you could imagine. But he's even I mean, you can imagine a guy like you have getting so educated, so knowledgeable for about a year and a half.
2636
2:43:39 --> 2:43:42
He was he was on benefits in the UK.
2637
2:43:42 --> 2:43:[privacy contact redaction] suspended by his hospital.
2638
2:43:47 --> 2:43:[privacy contact redaction] a patient from emergency tranquilization that that patient didn't need because they couldn't handle the behavior.
2639
2:43:56 --> 2:44:03
You know, we're in a we're in a crisis of doctor shortage in the UK and.
2640
2:44:03 --> 2:44:13
If Kenny was on benefits when when he could have been working with working for patients and to help them. So he's been through a lot.
2641
2:44:13 --> 2:44:27
Unfortunately, I think someone like you have Kenny, he shows people up. He's so incredibly well read and well educated that unfortunately the reaction of many people is jealousy.
2642
2:44:27 --> 2:44:34
I don't personally feel jealousy, but I had to kind of reeducate myself that a lot of people do.
2643
2:44:34 --> 2:44:47
They're driven by jealousy and they will attack people like you have Kenny and anyone who stands out and does the right thing because they're showing those people are showing those bastards up.
2644
2:44:47 --> 2:44:49
That's that's correct. Yes.
2645
2:44:49 --> 2:44:[privacy contact redaction] respond to several there in the chat.
2646
2:44:54 --> 2:44:59
There are several remarks, for example, that people don't see Camus in my list.
2647
2:44:59 --> 2:45:02
So, yeah, we can say there are books.
2648
2:45:02 --> 2:45:[privacy contact redaction]
2649
2:45:04 --> 2:45:[privacy contact redaction]
2650
2:45:06 --> 2:45:08
Camus.
2651
2:45:08 --> 2:45:12
I think Camus should come after this one hundred.
2652
2:45:12 --> 2:45:15
I think I like Camus all the time.
2653
2:45:15 --> 2:45:20
If I want to update my French, I'm just reading his stanger.
2654
2:45:20 --> 2:45:21
Yeah.
2655
2:45:21 --> 2:45:25
So I'm trying to get to see this like phenomenon of this like alienated person.
2656
2:45:25 --> 2:45:30
And at the same time, I'm just revising French Camus definitely.
2657
2:45:30 --> 2:45:[privacy contact redaction]ephensweig.
2658
2:45:33 --> 2:45:38
I will say that his huge novels like huge novels, they're not great.
2659
2:45:38 --> 2:45:[privacy contact redaction]er in short novels, although there are like around 40, like 40 or 50 of short novels.
2660
2:45:45 --> 2:45:52
There are pearls there, just fantastic pearls like Leporello, for example, or the letter of unknown lady.
2661
2:45:52 --> 2:45:54
Again, it's like beyond the list.
2662
2:45:54 --> 2:46:04
But guys, it's like if we go to the country, to Austria, we'll see several great writers there at the same time, at the time of Freud.
2663
2:46:04 --> 2:46:08
Hoffman's style with his plays and short stories.
2664
2:46:08 --> 2:46:10
Stephensweig.
2665
2:46:10 --> 2:46:11
Robert Musil.
2666
2:46:11 --> 2:46:21
You can't say Robert Musil in my list, but again, it's sort of essential because the great literature is beyond this like very concise list.
2667
2:46:21 --> 2:46:25
I will not agree with the Atlas, Chuck, the shoulders.
2668
2:46:25 --> 2:46:[privacy contact redaction]e admire this book, but I think this book is flawed from the point of view of topic, the idea, and also as a literary product.
2669
2:46:39 --> 2:46:52
Do you know there are certain books in my list which are not perfect from a literary point of view, for example, Cyrano de Bergerac, but it's listed great in this prophetic and great ideas of utopia in the moon.
2670
2:46:52 --> 2:46:53
I'm just looking.
2671
2:46:53 --> 2:46:56
I'm just looking through the things.
2672
2:46:56 --> 2:47:02
So, again, what I like about your list is you cast the net very wide indeed.
2673
2:47:02 --> 2:47:08
And there's no room for people like George Orwell and Aldous Huxley.
2674
2:47:08 --> 2:47:14
And I can't believe it, but I can't remember the author's name of Lolita.
2675
2:47:14 --> 2:47:15
Who was that?
2676
2:47:15 --> 2:47:16
Nabokov.
2677
2:47:16 --> 2:47:17
Nabokov.
2678
2:47:17 --> 2:47:18
Nabokov, yes, of course.
2679
2:47:18 --> 2:47:[privacy contact redaction] comment quickly.
2680
2:47:20 --> 2:47:24
I didn't put it in the list because it's in the compulsory reading.
2681
2:47:24 --> 2:47:[privacy contact redaction] the propaganda of the Western democracies.
2682
2:47:29 --> 2:47:32
So everybody like Riddho know them.
2683
2:47:32 --> 2:47:34
They are culturally important.
2684
2:47:34 --> 2:47:[privacy contact redaction], you need to read the novel that influenced this and to utopias.
2685
2:47:41 --> 2:47:52
And it's the novel by Evgeny Zemmetin-We, where he described like the things which we already see in 1984, some sort of this totalitarian state.
2686
2:47:52 --> 2:47:56
There is a comment, Wuthering Heights is a fantastic read.
2687
2:47:56 --> 2:48:05
Yeah, I agree that Wuthering Heights is a marvelous piece.
2688
2:48:05 --> 2:48:07
It's beautifully constructed, I will say.
2689
2:48:07 --> 2:48:[privacy contact redaction] amazing like this, the composition of the novels.
2690
2:48:13 --> 2:48:16
And it's good, guys.
2691
2:48:16 --> 2:48:18
You know, it's like the meat.
2692
2:48:18 --> 2:48:20
Yeah, you can't put everything.
2693
2:48:20 --> 2:48:21
Wuthering Heights, I agree.
2694
2:48:21 --> 2:48:23
Yeah. But do you see my...
2695
2:48:23 --> 2:48:[privacy contact redaction], I put the writers maybe whom you never heard even the names of, yeah, from different continents.
2696
2:48:33 --> 2:48:37
So don't forget that great literature doesn't exist only in the UK.
2697
2:48:37 --> 2:48:43
In my opinion, by the way, all great English literature ended up in the past.
2698
2:48:43 --> 2:48:45
It's Shakespeare.
2699
2:48:45 --> 2:48:47
It's 18th century.
2700
2:48:47 --> 2:48:48
Fielding.
2701
2:48:48 --> 2:48:49
Stern.
2702
2:48:49 --> 2:48:51
Goldsmith.
2703
2:48:51 --> 2:48:53
19th century.
2704
2:48:53 --> 2:48:55
Dickens.
2705
2:48:55 --> 2:48:58
You know, Wuthering Heights, Thomas Hardy.
2706
2:48:58 --> 2:49:[privacy contact redaction]
2707
2:49:00 --> 2:49:[privacy contact redaction]
2708
2:49:02 --> 2:49:11
I will add maybe that at some point I thought that William Golding, his greatest novel is, I thought, The Spire.
2709
2:49:11 --> 2:49:13
I think it's called Spy or The Spire.
2710
2:49:13 --> 2:49:18
Everybody knows William Golding by his A Lot of the Flies.
2711
2:49:18 --> 2:49:22
These boys on the uninhabited islands who turn into some sort of barbaric state.
2712
2:49:22 --> 2:49:24
But The Spire is very good.
2713
2:49:24 --> 2:49:26
It's very poetical, I think.
2714
2:49:26 --> 2:49:28
It's like a stream of consciousness.
2715
2:49:28 --> 2:49:35
And it requires several readings so you can see this vision of this main character and what's going on.
2716
2:49:35 --> 2:49:36
It's very good.
2717
2:49:36 --> 2:49:47
I will say that maybe from my point of view, maybe The Spire or Spire is the best English novel in 20th century by William Golding.
2718
2:49:47 --> 2:49:49
This, I think, must be.
2719
2:49:49 --> 2:49:59
It's like poetry, imagery and again like innovative modernistic technique of Virginia Woolf or James Joyce.
2720
2:49:59 --> 2:50:05
Yeah. And he had a very good hold on cults, which was what...
2721
2:50:05 --> 2:50:09
Yeah. I'm trying to look through the list.
2722
2:50:09 --> 2:50:15
And again, I always say don't forget the literature is a well thing.
2723
2:50:15 --> 2:50:[privacy contact redaction]e.
2724
2:50:18 --> 2:50:25
Several years ago in one anthology, I discovered the Pillow Book.
2725
2:50:25 --> 2:50:30
It's called The Pillow Book and it's written by the lady in medieval Japan.
2726
2:50:30 --> 2:50:32
It's, I think, the ninth century.
2727
2:50:32 --> 2:50:40
She is a lady at the emperor's court and her name was Say Shonagon.
2728
2:50:40 --> 2:50:43
Say Shonagon, The Pillow Book.
2729
2:50:43 --> 2:50:47
It's not about some plot or adventure.
2730
2:50:47 --> 2:50:58
It's just the personal diary of a person who was writing for herself, her observations about the nature, events in the courts, relationship with people.
2731
2:50:58 --> 2:51:[privacy contact redaction]e compose some poetry, she like put it down.
2732
2:51:02 --> 2:51:09
But this is, I think, the first example in the world literature where we got personal sort of diary.
2733
2:51:10 --> 2:51:15
We got something like that in Marcus Aurelius in his reflections.
2734
2:51:15 --> 2:51:23
I don't know how you translate Marcus Aurelius' book where he wrote these things for himself.
2735
2:51:23 --> 2:51:28
But her account, her diary is more personal.
2736
2:51:28 --> 2:51:[privacy contact redaction] believe that after her death, somebody found that and they saw that this is of great literary quality and they rewrote that.
2737
2:51:34 --> 2:51:43
And that after this, it influenced the whole strain of certain books in Japanese literature where Buddhist monks were trying to write like this self.
2738
2:51:43 --> 2:51:[privacy contact redaction]s say if you want to learn how to meditate and to go into this Zen thing, start to read Say Shonagon.
2739
2:51:51 --> 2:51:55
She was translated into English and Penguin published this Pillow Book.
2740
2:51:55 --> 2:51:56
It's not very thick.
2741
2:51:56 --> 2:52:02
And again, it's very slow meditative reading where there are sort of days or events.
2742
2:52:03 --> 2:52:08
And it's like interacting with the person who is just alive beside you.
2743
2:52:08 --> 2:52:09
It's amazing.
2744
2:52:09 --> 2:52:10
It's like immediate emotion.
2745
2:52:10 --> 2:52:12
And it's amazing.
2746
2:52:12 --> 2:52:18
Evgeny, can we take a question from Hans Benjamin Braun?
2747
2:52:18 --> 2:52:21
So he's in Switzerland and he's a professor of theoretical physics.
2748
2:52:21 --> 2:52:[privacy contact redaction]s, I think it is, that the Nord Stream pipeline explosions were thermonuclear explosions.
2749
2:52:31 --> 2:52:32
Secret.
2750
2:52:34 --> 2:52:38
Yeah, my question is not exactly related to that.
2751
2:52:38 --> 2:52:39
Can you hear me?
2752
2:52:40 --> 2:52:41
Yeah, yeah.
2753
2:52:41 --> 2:52:42
Can you hear me?
2754
2:52:42 --> 2:52:43
Okay.
2755
2:52:43 --> 2:52:47
Yeah, that's unrelated, but it may be a subject to another time discussion.
2756
2:52:48 --> 2:52:51
No, that was a wonderful overview.
2757
2:52:51 --> 2:52:58
And I think what also, I mean, A, I want to join Stephen in the suggestion that you would write something.
2758
2:52:58 --> 2:53:[privacy contact redaction]ained it to us, because I think it's wonderful to see a personal opinion.
2759
2:53:05 --> 2:53:[privacy contact redaction]uff which you can, which essentially agrees with everybody else, but actually an individual opinion on these literary works.
2760
2:53:18 --> 2:53:19
That would be wonderful.
2761
2:53:19 --> 2:53:28
And then, of course, also thank you for your, you know, apparently I've heard that you had your difficulties relating your career.
2762
2:53:28 --> 2:53:31
And I've witnessed similar things.
2763
2:53:31 --> 2:53:37
So maybe we could exchange privately, you know, or even.
2764
2:53:37 --> 2:53:39
But now back to the scene.
2765
2:53:39 --> 2:53:[privacy contact redaction] is that it encompasses essentially all cultures.
2766
2:53:46 --> 2:54:00
And I think in these times, that's very, very important where there are forces which try to drive and to divide and, you know, and single out one thing over another thing.
2767
2:54:00 --> 2:54:08
And in this context, actually, what did strike me when you were talking, I also learned Greek and Latin at school.
2768
2:54:08 --> 2:54:13
Even though I try to pursue physics.
2769
2:54:13 --> 2:54:[privacy contact redaction]ually Homer original and we read Virgil and his original.
2770
2:54:21 --> 2:54:32
And then, but in recent times in schools, at least here in Europe, there has been this push to eliminate classics from from the curriculum.
2771
2:54:33 --> 2:54:[privacy contact redaction]ually, if you see, there is practically nobody doing this and, you know, at school anymore.
2772
2:54:38 --> 2:54:56
And that takes us maybe to the topic of these conversations, you know, over the past few years organized by Stephen is, you know, how exactly and why exactly did the Roman Empire collapse?
2773
2:54:56 --> 2:55:12
And I think some of the Roman and Latin texts, and even if you actually look at it, so, you know, legal stuff, I mean, now, apparently, even in discussions, even in blogs, you know, one of the most frequent snippets in Latin is Cui Bono.
2774
2:55:12 --> 2:55:16
Right. And that is Cicero's phrase.
2775
2:55:16 --> 2:55:24
And I mean, another thing is which comes to my mind is part of the elder right.
2776
2:55:24 --> 2:55:35
Parking in a set of end, which is, you know, somehow this obsession of powers to eliminate their competitor, no matter what.
2777
2:55:35 --> 2:55:52
So, but I think even functionally, the decline of the Roman Empire, I mean, some voices say that it was a detached elite, which essentially, you know, was enriching themselves and leaving the great mass on their own.
2778
2:55:54 --> 2:56:02
It's, of course, hard to see because, you know, the average people didn't write books, you know, maybe you find some paintings in Pompeii.
2779
2:56:02 --> 2:56:16
But I think it's a very, very, very important thing and aspect which we should not realize in, you know, in these times, in these current times, which are indeed very challenging.
2780
2:56:16 --> 2:56:18
So thank you very much.
2781
2:56:20 --> 2:56:[privacy contact redaction] quick. Thank you for your contribution.
2782
2:56:22 --> 2:56:34
I think I believe Seymour Hersh who published his version of events in regards to Nordic pub pipeline.
2783
2:56:34 --> 2:56:39
The thing is, it doesn't even matter how they did it because they're...
2784
2:56:39 --> 2:56:42
Well, I think it did. Just a second, because you came back.
2785
2:56:42 --> 2:56:46
Actually, Seymour Hersh was via contact of mine at MIT.
2786
2:56:46 --> 2:56:49
He was in possession of my analysis.
2787
2:56:49 --> 2:57:01
So about a month before mid-January, he got what I wrote and I just, I didn't, you know, it was not contact or rumors.
2788
2:57:01 --> 2:57:[privacy contact redaction]us many other signature, you know, satellite data.
2789
2:57:10 --> 2:57:[privacy contact redaction]ually in the next few weeks, perhaps there will be kind of an update of a talk which I gave also based on this English synchronization, maybe online.
2790
2:57:22 --> 2:57:31
So we can then look at it, I think, as a, you know, scientifically educated person, you can follow.
2791
2:57:31 --> 2:57:36
I mean, in the audience there were actually lots of physicists and engineers and captains.
2792
2:57:37 --> 2:57:44
So I didn't get any kind of valid objections to what I presented.
2793
2:57:44 --> 2:57:48
And I mean, this has been going around since a year.
2794
2:57:48 --> 2:57:53
I mean, it went up to White House, Kremlin, Ben Hark.
2795
2:57:53 --> 2:57:57
So no, just to reply to your remark.
2796
2:57:57 --> 2:58:02
No, no, indeed it's how one did it is indeed it matters.
2797
2:58:02 --> 2:58:14
Because if you look at all the, you know, now the tenor and accusing, oh, they are threatening with nuclear weapons.
2798
2:58:14 --> 2:58:[privacy contact redaction] say, wait a minute, this is long gone.
2799
2:58:17 --> 2:58:28
You know, this ship has sailed and probably never actually stopped sailing ever since this, you know, really thing started.
2800
2:58:28 --> 2:58:31
And that's what people just do not understand.
2801
2:58:31 --> 2:58:34
They don't want to see it because they have been brainwashed.
2802
2:58:34 --> 2:58:38
And it's actually a very, very, very important thing.
2803
2:58:38 --> 2:58:41
And if we are not doing something, we're doomed.
2804
2:58:41 --> 2:58:52
Really. I mean, that's my that's now my personal opinion, but it comes from a really strict scientific analysis.
2805
2:58:52 --> 2:58:53
And I mean, all all.
2806
2:58:53 --> 2:59:[privacy contact redaction]ually, in the meantime, I've heard of cases people have been working on this along similar lines than myself.
2807
2:59:04 --> 2:59:12
And I've been told they are not allowed to pursue their research in this direction.
2808
2:59:12 --> 2:59:[privacy contact redaction]ually make your own, you know, you can make your own story, your own conclusion about that.
2809
2:59:19 --> 2:59:[privacy contact redaction] silenced.
2810
2:59:23 --> 2:59:28
I mean, it's just kept on the cover and it keeps on increasing.
2811
2:59:28 --> 2:59:38
I mean, every every couple of weeks I come up with another package, which is even more outrageous in its in its implications.
2812
2:59:38 --> 2:59:[privacy contact redaction], you know, to whoever is still here at the time.
2813
2:59:44 --> 2:59:48
I'd have like to give an update on that matter.
2814
2:59:48 --> 2:59:49
Thank you.
2815
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So, Evgeny, I can put you in touch with Stans Benjamin if you want.
2816
2:59:53 --> 2:59:[privacy contact redaction] quick comments to the chats.
2817
2:59:57 --> 3:00:[privacy contact redaction]e asking about translation into into English, I don't know, to be honest.
2818
3:00:03 --> 3:00:08
I can say about Russian translations, maybe Penguin Classics.
2819
3:00:08 --> 3:00:[privacy contact redaction]s say that maybe it's worth to read with two translations.
2820
3:00:15 --> 3:00:20
I think there is another translation in Oxford University Press like Oxford Classics.
2821
3:00:20 --> 3:00:26
So when you read them in two different translations, maybe then.
2822
3:00:26 --> 3:00:30
But again, I'm not a specialist. You need to read certain reviews.
2823
3:00:30 --> 3:00:38
And also, it's difficult to see honest reviews from they're just publishing enterprises when they want to sell something.
2824
3:00:38 --> 3:00:46
But I noticed, for example, when I was preparing today, this scene with the prisoners, which were going like through the desert,
2825
3:00:46 --> 3:00:50
which Don Quixote like freed from all the crimes and let them free.
2826
3:00:50 --> 3:00:[privacy contact redaction], after this heroic deed, they stoned him.
2827
3:00:55 --> 3:01:[privacy contact redaction]er, they write that Don Quixote put down his eyes.
2828
3:01:04 --> 3:01:[privacy contact redaction]e who were connected by the iron chain on their necks like beads.
2829
3:01:13 --> 3:01:19
So in the original Spanish, there is a word, this word like Quentus, it's beads.
2830
3:01:19 --> 3:01:30
But the thing is that if I'm a translator and because when he's writing beads, I see the Rosary.
2831
3:01:30 --> 3:01:38
So we are living in the modern world. It means like in the times of Cervantes, this metaphor was obvious.
2832
3:01:38 --> 3:01:[privacy contact redaction]e, they are like the beads in the Rosary in this line connected like to the necks.
2833
3:01:45 --> 3:01:[privacy contact redaction] he writes it for the modern English reader, I will translate them that were like beads in the Rosary.
2834
3:01:54 --> 3:02:01
If I was a translator, you know, sort of chew up this thing, because I doubt that you will notice this thing.
2835
3:02:01 --> 3:02:10
Do you know? Borges, he wrote a book, like a very short story about like the guy who is trying to translate, I think, Don Quixote,
2836
3:02:10 --> 3:02:[privacy contact redaction]ually he writes it again because you need to go back into this context.
2837
3:02:16 --> 3:02:[privacy contact redaction] Yes, Shakespeare.
2838
3:02:20 --> 3:02:[privacy contact redaction]e, you need to read it.
2839
3:02:24 --> 3:02:33
For English speaking, you need to read it in a bilingual translations where there is a literal translation of all these archaic words,
2840
3:02:33 --> 3:02:[privacy contact redaction]uff and the decipherment of his metaphors.
2841
3:02:38 --> 3:02:46
Otherwise, what's the point? Yeah, it's a beautiful music to recite against the winds and fortune of outrageous fortune.
2842
3:02:46 --> 3:02:52
But the thing is like, what's the point if you don't understand what actually he's trying to say?
2843
3:02:52 --> 3:02:57
Yeah, because the good literature is about two things.
2844
3:02:57 --> 3:03:03
It's about emotion, which could be because of the beautiful consonants and rhythm, which is on subconscious level.
2845
3:03:03 --> 3:03:05
But there is also some idea there.
2846
3:03:05 --> 3:03:11
OK, then people write about Epictetus. I totally agree. Like Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus.
2847
3:03:11 --> 3:03:14
But again, it's like beyond the list. It's like further reading. Yeah.
2848
3:03:14 --> 3:03:17
But I think it's essential reading, actually.
2849
3:03:17 --> 3:03:21
The death of Socrates or the trial of Socrates.
2850
3:03:21 --> 3:03:[privacy contact redaction]e mean the account by Xenophon or Xenophon, definitely.
2851
3:03:27 --> 3:03:[privacy contact redaction]ate dialogues where there is a description, because I think both pupils of Socrates give this
2852
3:03:34 --> 3:03:[privacy contact redaction]e my time for that, to be honest.
2853
3:03:40 --> 3:03:43
And I'm honest and I will explain why.
2854
3:03:43 --> 3:03:53
So from one hand, Solzhenitsyn, he got a great literary talent like Tolstoy.
2855
3:03:53 --> 3:03:[privacy contact redaction] how to put the sentences on the page.
2856
3:03:58 --> 3:04:09
Here in Glasgow, he created a dictionary of Russian root words, which used in different villages.
2857
3:04:09 --> 3:04:[privacy contact redaction], it's like the thing with the Russian language where we got the word, but with different variations.
2858
3:04:15 --> 3:04:17
So it's fun to read it.
2859
3:04:17 --> 3:04:23
But another thing, it's a huge, huge novel.
2860
3:04:23 --> 3:04:26
I recall it like five, six pages at times.
2861
3:04:26 --> 3:04:[privacy contact redaction]e think it's some sort of documentary thing.
2862
3:04:29 --> 3:04:32
This is not a documentary account.
2863
3:04:32 --> 3:04:35
This is like literary work with a certain purpose.
2864
3:04:35 --> 3:04:37
So it bears certain purpose.
2865
3:04:37 --> 3:04:41
Part of it, I will say it's like mostly it's propaganda.
2866
3:04:41 --> 3:04:45
So certain things contain truth where he called something or says something.
2867
3:04:45 --> 3:04:52
But some of this, it's like sort of myths or legends he's like putting down to appreciate the fact that
2868
3:04:52 --> 3:05:00
to appreciate sort of the thing about Gulag, it's worth to read just one short novel by Solzhenitsyn,
2869
3:05:00 --> 3:05:03
One Day Over Van Denisevich, I think it's called.
2870
3:05:03 --> 3:05:[privacy contact redaction], I don't know, I don't recall exactly.
2871
3:05:06 --> 3:05:14
I think maybe it's [privacy contact redaction] your life because there is no need to reread this tedious accounts from the trials,
2872
3:05:14 --> 3:05:[privacy contact redaction] took from newspaper.
2873
3:05:16 --> 3:05:22
So for me, it's some sort of raw material combined with this sort of myths.
2874
3:05:22 --> 3:05:27
If he published separately the myths about Gulag, it's one thing.
2875
3:05:27 --> 3:05:35
But again, if you want to know about Gulag, I will recommend another writer who wrote short stories and in five, six short stories
2876
3:05:35 --> 3:05:39
from his personal experience and of great literary merit,
2877
3:05:39 --> 3:05:45
you will get more from this like six or seven volumes of Archipelago Gulag.
2878
3:05:45 --> 3:05:47
And this is, I think, just the time waste.
2879
3:05:47 --> 3:05:57
We should be more like sort of concise in the way that we can get the same, but like in a shorter text, which has more literary qualities there.
2880
3:05:57 --> 3:06:00
Then Tomas Snesh.
2881
3:06:00 --> 3:06:09
Yeah. So the Picaresque novel, which is in my anthology of Picaresque novels is Tomas Snesh, this writer from...
2882
3:06:09 --> 3:06:[privacy contact redaction] Voltaire, so I should admit, because I was in April, I was telling Karam, Karam, have you read Candide?
2883
3:06:18 --> 3:06:20
You know, read it immediately.
2884
3:06:20 --> 3:06:30
You know, in the time of these conflicts in Palestine and this like strife, just look at this text about tolerance, Candide and his philosophical place by Voltaire.
2885
3:06:30 --> 3:06:37
Yeah, Voltaire, philosophical novels, I should include in my list, but I need to remove somebody from this list.
2886
3:06:37 --> 3:06:38
Yeah.
2887
3:06:38 --> 3:06:40
Kafka.
2888
3:06:40 --> 3:06:46
What I will say, everybody knows Kafka, you know, everybody knows.
2889
3:06:46 --> 3:06:57
I will say that maybe it's worth to reread his Metamorphoses, just from time to time to reread the same short novel and not to go into the huge, because the theme is the same.
2890
3:06:57 --> 3:06:59
The theme is the same.
2891
3:06:59 --> 3:07:04
But before Kafka, guys, I will suggest to read Metamorphoses by Ovid.
2892
3:07:04 --> 3:07:12
Yeah, just to go to this image, to see what Metamorphoses was in Ovid, because it's more culturally important than Kafka Metamorphoses.
2893
3:07:12 --> 3:07:17
Images of Ovid, they go everywhere in literature, in poetry, in music.
2894
3:07:17 --> 3:07:23
They're like ballets, operas, you know, suites and also paintings like everywhere.
2895
3:07:23 --> 3:07:27
So what's the point to see the painting if you don't understand that that's the subject?
2896
3:07:27 --> 3:07:33
And the descriptions of these transformations in Ovid, they are quite innovative.
2897
3:07:33 --> 3:07:[privacy contact redaction]e in Ovid, where he describes how centaurs like destroys each other and what traumas they sustained.
2898
3:07:40 --> 3:07:43
It's like almost reading an orthopedic textbook.
2899
3:07:43 --> 3:07:47
It's like disgusting, but it's in poetry.
2900
3:07:47 --> 3:07:57
And then Metamorphoses by Apuleos, this great novel where there are certain erotic scenes there, but they are described.
2901
3:07:57 --> 3:08:[privacy contact redaction]s, which are sort of detached in some sort of Hemingway way.
2902
3:08:07 --> 3:08:16
He describes like the atmosphere, how this servant girl was preparing like something in the pot and there was something boiling and it was like a pathos in smell.
2903
3:08:16 --> 3:08:24
And she was moving with her thighs. So he creates sort of atmosphere, erotic atmosphere without actually describing a sex scene.
2904
3:08:24 --> 3:08:32
But it's like very erotic. I don't know. This is maybe unique experience like in the world literature, how you write about like sort of forbidden things,
2905
3:08:32 --> 3:08:[privacy contact redaction]ine language, because the fathers of church, all the St. Augustine and the guys like St. Thomas, they adored like the Golden Ass Metamorphoses by Apuleos.
2906
3:08:44 --> 3:08:50
This forbidden literature, they adored it. They adored it to the point that they copied the style of Apuleos.
2907
3:08:50 --> 3:09:00
If you manage to read it in Latin or in good English translation, you will see how beautifully he constructs the sentence and everything apart from the topic itself.
2908
3:09:00 --> 3:09:05
So it's a great book. So Kafka. I don't know who was the writer for Kafka.
2909
3:09:05 --> 3:09:[privacy contact redaction]ruggles in this bureaucracy like in Austria.
2910
3:09:11 --> 3:09:16
You know, OK. But if you read Kafka, Metamorphoses, that's enough. That's enough.
2911
3:09:16 --> 3:09:[privacy contact redaction]ually it's very important to write about bureaucracy. So Kafka is the master of that's my opinion anyway.
2912
3:09:24 --> 3:09:34
But the thing is that if you take some of the plays by Gogol, Nikolai Gogol, some of the stuff, that's Kafka or Hoffman.
2913
3:09:34 --> 3:09:39
Do you know this sort of thing? Do you know there is like a spirit of that?
2914
3:09:39 --> 3:09:54
Yeah, Kafka just went on to this level where somebody is going to approach this castle or somebody is like falsely accused and this like thing with a person is transformed to something or panel calling like a very short story like two or three pages.
2915
3:09:54 --> 3:10:00
Yeah, I will say that Kafka is good for when you revise in your German.
2916
3:10:00 --> 3:10:10
So then the next one, Polish writers. I will say that I don't know the writer which was mentioned in the chat.
2917
3:10:10 --> 3:10:25
I know better Polish poets. Obviously, they are classic poet of 19th century Adam Mickiewicz, who was just a genius, I think, and wrote a beautiful poem Pan to Deusz.
2918
3:10:25 --> 3:10:39
Then I write classical like Polish writers like Sienkiewicz, Boleslaw Proust-Ferrow and from 20th century Jerzy Anzijewski, The Gates of Paradise and I think it's called Ash and Diamond.
2919
3:10:39 --> 3:10:49
But again, and there is a great writer, by the way, in Poland who wrote, we can say, the first proper Polish novel, although he wrote it in French.
2920
3:10:49 --> 3:11:01
Jan Potocki, the manuscript found in Saragossa. This is for Kanaswas. This is for people who like sort of literary game.
2921
3:11:01 --> 3:11:11
He uses the technique of Thousand and One Nights, Russian doll, where one story is inside another story and another one story. It's just mind blowing.
2922
3:11:11 --> 3:11:22
I read it several times and it's fantastic. The action, by the way, takes in Spain, but he goes like inside of the story, he goes into another one and they link together.
2923
3:11:22 --> 3:11:33
You cannot describe it in this book. The manuscript found in Saragossa. Yeah, this is I think that will be on the maybe Lem is possibly the greatest.
2924
3:11:33 --> 3:11:[privacy contact redaction] I will put this one manuscript found in Saragossa. Tolkien. Yeah, Tolkien, I think is great.
2925
3:11:42 --> 3:11:54
But you will appreciate him if you read Beowulf, if you read Kaliwala, if you read Son of Nibelungen, if you read all these all Germanic and Finnish epic poems and Icelandic sagas,
2926
3:11:54 --> 3:12:01
because we will appreciate how Tolkien managed to recreate the poetry and the style of these old guys.
2927
3:12:01 --> 3:12:08
Because when you read in it, it's not just the thing which he's doing for money. He's doing it from the heart.
2928
3:12:08 --> 3:12:16
It's like Umberto Eco writing The Name of the Rose. He's specialist in this in medieval ages. He lives in them.
2929
3:12:16 --> 3:12:22
He knows all the literature of the time. He can recreate the thinking. So that's what Tolkien, I think he has achieved.
2930
3:12:22 --> 3:12:31
It's like this ancient poet who is composing Beowulf when he believes that Beowulf is a real dragon.
2931
3:12:31 --> 3:12:38
That's the fun in Beowulf. You know, apart from these alliterations and the descriptions and the economical rhymes,
2932
3:12:38 --> 3:12:49
you can also amaze that potentially these peoples, although they were on the brink of Christianity and they adopted Christianity and he's Christian, still there are pagan elements there.
2933
3:12:49 --> 3:12:[privacy contact redaction] they're hidden there and they believe that he believes that they were dragons because they believed in that.
2934
3:12:55 --> 3:13:05
They believed in that till I don't know 13th, 14th century. Bodleir, yes. But again, the poetry, it's like huge continents.
2935
3:13:05 --> 3:13:10
I've already mentioned Africa or Latin America. So and you take it by periods.
2936
3:13:10 --> 3:13:[privacy contact redaction]e, we take separately the Renaissance poetry and it goes country by country, not only Germany, not only Germany.
2937
3:13:20 --> 3:13:25
I mean, like all these duketems, not only France or England or Spain or Italy.
2938
3:13:25 --> 3:13:32
There was great poets in Dalmatia or in Iceland or in Hungary or in Poland.
2939
3:13:32 --> 3:13:[privacy contact redaction] poets in these countries at this period.
2940
3:13:37 --> 3:13:45
18th century, the same principle, country by country, 19th century, country by country like that.
2941
3:13:45 --> 3:13:55
So otherwise, we'll just miss some poets who just wrote one poem, which is like great.
2942
3:13:55 --> 3:14:02
When I'm reading this Spanish poets, I found one guy and in Russian anthology, there is just one poem to his father.
2943
3:14:02 --> 3:14:09
And it's like that that our life is some sort of Johnny. Our life is like a river.
2944
3:14:09 --> 3:14:15
Our life is like a river that goes into the stream of the ocean. It was sort of infinity.
2945
3:14:15 --> 3:14:22
Oh, my God. And the thing is that the images, they repeat another poet as well, because, you know,
2946
3:14:22 --> 3:14:29
it's like they don't exist in a vacuum. Somebody is writing almost like similar to that.
2947
3:14:29 --> 3:14:39
And again, it's interesting like how when you mentioned Badler, I recall in one of his poems, I think it's Badler, if I'm not mistaken.
2948
3:14:39 --> 3:14:44
So he's writing about the character that the character looked at them at despise.
2949
3:14:44 --> 3:14:56
At this point, I'm thinking, is he referring to the Divine Comedy to Inferno, where in one of the cycles there is Bertrand de Bourgh.
2950
3:14:56 --> 3:15:05
And he was a poet, a real poet, whom Dante placed in Inferno. And this poet, so he keeps in front of his head.
2951
3:15:05 --> 3:15:[privacy contact redaction] and he's keeping his head in front of him like a like a torch, like showing the way like in the darkness of Inferno.
2952
3:15:15 --> 3:15:26
And Dante is describing that in this like sort of statue, this poet, he sort of defied the even Inferno.
2953
3:15:26 --> 3:15:33
He defied everything, you know, in his punishment. And when I'm reading Badler, I'm just like, and it's not obvious.
2954
3:15:33 --> 3:15:44
And I'm thinking, is it some sort of quotation from Dante? Because Dante or Don Quixote, they influenced 19th century like romantics, definitely, like Shakespeare.
2955
3:15:44 --> 3:15:51
So there are a lot of these hidden sort of connections and we don't see them at the first time as like as a quotation.
2956
3:15:51 --> 3:15:57
Candide, Thomas Nash. Yeah.
2957
3:15:58 --> 3:16:03
That's if you're coming to an end or you're feeling a bit tired.
2958
3:16:03 --> 3:16:07
I think I think we should come to the end. I think people are just overloaded.
2959
3:16:07 --> 3:16:14
The thing is that the only advice will be don't rush like allocate the time for every day.
2960
3:16:14 --> 3:16:19
It's like food, the food for your brain. Do you know the food for your intellect?
2961
3:16:19 --> 3:16:22
You're taking food every day, right? I don't know.
2962
3:16:22 --> 3:16:27
Every day. It's like it should be like a habit.
2963
3:16:27 --> 3:16:[privacy contact redaction]op it unless you are in coma or dead.
2964
3:16:32 --> 3:16:36
Allocate the time. I think it's.
2965
3:16:36 --> 3:16:39
Can you really come back to talk to us?
2966
3:16:39 --> 3:16:41
Yeah, certainly.
2967
3:16:41 --> 3:16:48
The thing, it will be lovely at some point if we read the same text to reconvene and discuss it.
2968
3:16:48 --> 3:16:57
Yes, one of the greatest thing is Russia, which maybe I hinted at that we discuss the same thing in the same circle.
2969
3:16:57 --> 3:17:[privacy contact redaction] topic for discussion and I want to mention another thing in my funny thing in my school.
2970
3:17:02 --> 3:17:07
There was a hooligan hooligan who was like he got bad marks in all subjects,
2971
3:17:07 --> 3:17:15
but he got his parents got like the largest library like in our class where we borrowed his books and he was reading certain books.
2972
3:17:15 --> 3:17:22
Even we read before them. We read not only what it was compulsory, but not also compulsory like Gorky,
2973
3:17:22 --> 3:17:29
which wasn't some of his novels were not compulsory, but we learned about from this novels about like what is love, what is sex.
2974
3:17:29 --> 3:17:34
And we were like as adolescents. It was I will not say that this is a pornography.
2975
3:17:34 --> 3:17:42
It's not exciting, but do you know it's the knowledge about the life I will say introduction into adult life through the great books.
2976
3:17:42 --> 3:17:[privacy contact redaction]
2977
3:17:45 --> 3:17:53
Well, if everybody is like you in Evgeny, if everybody is well educated as you in Russia, then the West has got a big problem.
2978
3:17:53 --> 3:18:02
Because apparently the UK is at war with Russia now and Rishi Sunak said that he didn't want to be a wartime prime minister.
2979
3:18:02 --> 3:18:05
I don't know whether that was a joke, but that's what I heard this week.
2980
3:18:05 --> 3:18:10
We're living in very frightening times.
2981
3:18:10 --> 3:18:15
Actually, I think the danger of nuclear inhalation is real.
2982
3:18:15 --> 3:18:21
Although some in this group, they think that or there are no jokes that this is like a bluff and whatever.
2983
3:18:21 --> 3:18:24
I don't think so. It's real.
2984
3:18:24 --> 3:18:46
And the danger is that there are some people in military on both sides that believe that if they destroy the systems of early like recognition that missiles are going, you know, this system systems, they can destroy the country without like retaliation.
2985
3:18:46 --> 3:18:[privacy contact redaction]e on both sides who believe in that.
2986
3:18:49 --> 3:18:[privacy contact redaction]e are dangerous because all their actions, not just the words actions, they're dangerous.
2987
3:18:56 --> 3:19:09
Yeah, because this this moment, if the F-[privacy contact redaction] who can carry nuclear weapons will go from Poland or Romania or Germany, I think Russia will respond to that.
2988
3:19:09 --> 3:19:[privacy contact redaction]roy it on the territory of Poland or Germany or Romania.
2989
3:19:12 --> 3:19:14
There will be no hesitation in that.
2990
3:19:14 --> 3:19:[privacy contact redaction] to the third world.
2991
3:19:19 --> 3:19:33
Well, of all the countries in the world, if you look at the size of Russia, even now, I mean, the Soviet Union was, I think, two million square miles more than it is currently, which currently is just over six million, I think, square miles.
2992
3:19:33 --> 3:19:36
It's the biggest country in the world.
2993
3:19:36 --> 3:19:40
So it's going to take a heck of a lot of invading to take over Russia.
2994
3:19:40 --> 3:19:45
And the notion that you can somehow beat Russia seems incredibly stupid to me.
2995
3:19:45 --> 3:19:[privacy contact redaction], and and we've seen Napoleon fail and we saw Hitler fail if we can believe any history at all.
2996
3:19:53 --> 3:19:[privacy contact redaction], you're going to thank you so much.
2997
3:19:55 --> 3:20:00
So you're incredibly well read, Evgeny, and you're incredibly wise, I imagine.
2998
3:20:00 --> 3:20:08
And how long did it take you to work out what was going on in 2020?
2999
3:20:08 --> 3:20:12
In the COVID-19.
3000
3:20:12 --> 3:20:19
How long did it take you to work out the COVID-19 pandemic, so-called, was a fraud?
3001
3:20:19 --> 3:20:21
Oh, I don't recall.
3002
3:20:21 --> 3:20:29
But at some point, I don't recall at some point I was thinking because there were several still there are several sort of versions in my head.
3003
3:20:29 --> 3:20:[privacy contact redaction] of all, I've seen the movie called Contagion.
3004
3:20:34 --> 3:20:39
And I was thinking that what is that?
3005
3:20:39 --> 3:20:48
And I thought that the main thing which I noticed, I thought was like the dressage of the population.
3006
3:20:48 --> 3:20:[privacy contact redaction]essage, there is a French word dressage.
3007
3:20:52 --> 3:21:03
It's like when you take the horse and to take the horse like in a circus, you train the horse to do different movements, galoping or whatever.
3008
3:21:03 --> 3:21:05
I think it's called dressage.
3009
3:21:05 --> 3:21:[privacy contact redaction]essage of population.
3010
3:21:09 --> 3:21:22
Because I was thinking like, how did they manage at the same time in most of the countries to install some sort of martial law and people abdicated from all their rights?
3011
3:21:22 --> 3:21:[privacy contact redaction] a pure coincidence that they were afraid of COVID or were they checking whether the population can deliberately do what the government told them?
3012
3:21:33 --> 3:21:36
Sit at home, don't do anything, don't work.
3013
3:21:36 --> 3:21:51
And then I said like after it finished and it showed that almost in all countries, the population is compliant because we live all, I believe, in all totalitarian states, not only like in China, in Russia.
3014
3:21:51 --> 3:21:56
Or Lukashenko, I think the UK.
3015
3:21:56 --> 3:22:02
It's the question how everything is masqueraded and how you just deal with your political opponents.
3016
3:22:02 --> 3:22:03
Sure. That's the question.
3017
3:22:03 --> 3:22:[privacy contact redaction] in disguise?
3018
3:22:07 --> 3:22:20
And then I thought that potentially that if some social upheaval will start in the United States and if there will be a lot of protests there,
3019
3:22:20 --> 3:22:[privacy contact redaction] put army on the streets and will say that, oh, these are enemies of the country, we need to destroy them.
3020
3:22:27 --> 3:22:[privacy contact redaction] believe the government will listen to that because they already have done all these things and showed they can submit to the power during the COVID pandemic.
3021
3:22:40 --> 3:22:41
Yeah.
3022
3:22:41 --> 3:22:45
And now we can do everything.
3023
3:22:45 --> 3:22:48
Yeah, it was a stunning time to be alive, wasn't it?
3024
3:22:48 --> 3:22:[privacy contact redaction]ill is, actually.
3025
3:22:50 --> 3:22:52
But I agree with you, Yevgeny.
3026
3:22:52 --> 3:23:[privacy contact redaction] problems is the public's, people's addiction to mobile phones and computers and their absolute inability to control their wishes or their wants, you know, and no wisdom at all.
3027
3:23:09 --> 3:23:12
And no wonder because nobody reads.
3028
3:23:12 --> 3:23:28
And I think you're absolutely right that societies have become atomized and that's extremely dangerous when you've got no conversation taking place between generations, between husbands and wives, because of feminism and all the rest of it.
3029
3:23:28 --> 3:23:33
You know, they've sought to divide us and they've succeeded and we need to reverse this.
3030
3:23:33 --> 3:23:40
And I see you as providing the solution.
3031
3:23:40 --> 3:23:42
It's difficult to say what we can do.
3032
3:23:42 --> 3:23:43
We can think.
3033
3:23:43 --> 3:23:56
The thing is that it's like a huge question whether what kind of regime we're living in, like what kind of regime, like what regime is doing with the people, with the population, what's the purpose of it?
3034
3:23:56 --> 3:23:58
I see it in some sort of my Russian.
3035
3:23:58 --> 3:24:01
Psychopaths are in control, in my opinion.
3036
3:24:01 --> 3:24:23
Yeah, so I think I think I think like in the in the terms or in the categories of like Marxist sort of theory, if we look at the from the point of view of like capitalism, what for me it's obvious that capitalism as a system or regime, certain regime is just need modernization all the time.
3037
3:24:23 --> 3:24:[privacy contact redaction]er to survive it as a regime, when a few people will get an access to everything and will responsible for distributing of the goods in the society, you need to reinvent the system.
3038
3:24:38 --> 3:24:[privacy contact redaction]orian labor factory where even the kids doing the jobs like 24 hours per day and there are no hospitals, nothing.
3039
3:24:50 --> 3:25:[privacy contact redaction]e are allowed to have eight hours work, to have rest that Saturday and Sunday, kids not to work, NHS.
3040
3:25:00 --> 3:25:04
So and all the time there's like reinvention of capitalism.
3041
3:25:04 --> 3:25:[privacy contact redaction] to reinvent sort of capitalism where you remove people from working places to put on androids robots like in their place where every many industries like state controlled and also to put everybody back on the public transport to reduce using private cars.
3042
3:25:30 --> 3:25:[privacy contact redaction]uff and to switch consumption from meat to vegetables or I don't know to insects.
3043
3:25:39 --> 3:25:46
Yeah. So but the thing is that I believe that there is no I believe there is no universal government.
3044
3:25:46 --> 3:25:54
Even so there are corporations and there are different like groups of interest in every country.
3045
3:25:54 --> 3:26:[privacy contact redaction]ates, there are certain like I don't know how many groups which are competing with each other.
3046
3:26:02 --> 3:26:[privacy contact redaction]rial complex.
3047
3:26:05 --> 3:26:10
Some of them could be a financial financial like circles.
3048
3:26:10 --> 3:26:35
One center of power now is emerging looks like is this digital power with the social media where people who owns Twitter, Instagram and this stuff, they got their capitals just selling us as like the base for the marketing to the companies who like produce the stuff which appears like in advertising.
3049
3:26:35 --> 3:26:39
So there and also there are old elites, especially in Europe.
3050
3:26:39 --> 3:26:[privacy contact redaction]ed to the royal families in the UK royal family in the UK and associated banks with it and the aristocracy.
3051
3:26:50 --> 3:26:[privacy contact redaction]ocratic families. And I think there is a competition with them at certain points.
3052
3:26:55 --> 3:26:59
They go together, but at some points there are like a fight with them.
3053
3:26:59 --> 3:27:18
I think some of the groups of these groups, they actually sabotage in this plan, you know, of how call it of restart or like reinvention of capitalism because they know that everything will end with social revolution.
3054
3:27:18 --> 3:27:20
So they need to do something.
3055
3:27:20 --> 3:27:[privacy contact redaction]ate regulation in all spheres.
3056
3:27:26 --> 3:27:30
In this group, you're going to were incurable rebels.
3057
3:27:30 --> 3:27:[privacy contact redaction] cars, the faster the better and the bigger the better and caramels to say something now.
3058
3:27:39 --> 3:27:45
Yeah, I just wanted to kind of maybe agree with you a little bit on some of those points and challenge.
3059
3:27:45 --> 3:27:59
I think that I can agree with you that those those, you know, those different groups might have disagreements from time to time where they their their goals or their their desires go against each other.
3060
3:27:59 --> 3:28:19
I think for me, a great example of that was when you saw, I think a lot of people think that the the revelation of Prince Andrew with Virginia Guifa and and Jeffrey Epstein was like, like some sort of like white knight campaign to out him as a as a as a sex
3061
3:28:19 --> 3:28:[privacy contact redaction] or, you know, inappropriate guy.
3062
3:28:22 --> 3:28:27
For me, I know I have a feeling for how the media work in the West.
3063
3:28:27 --> 3:28:44
And I think that when all of the different channels were and I'm going to use this word were in lockstep with each other on this on this this bit of news, I my first thought wasn't, oh, Prince Andrew's done this.
3064
3:28:44 --> 3:28:50
It's what else is Prince Andrew done that they're holding back on that they're now using hangouts?
3065
3:28:50 --> 3:28:51
Yeah, exactly.
3066
3:28:51 --> 3:28:59
Well, actually, for me, I said, what do these people need from the royal family that they're willing to blackmail them on the international stage and disgrace them?
3067
3:28:59 --> 3:29:04
So I said to myself, this is this is actually the royal family being blackmailed.
3068
3:29:04 --> 3:29:10
And then we found out about, you know, Epstein's honey pot operation and whether Mossad is involved.
3069
3:29:10 --> 3:29:11
I don't know.
3070
3:29:11 --> 3:29:19
But so what I would say is that, yes, they do probably have their own, you know, their own interests in it.
3071
3:29:19 --> 3:29:23
And maybe they're not all completely, you know, on song all the time.
3072
3:29:23 --> 3:29:[privacy contact redaction]ate where is Kate Middleton?
3073
3:29:27 --> 3:29:28
Someone's written.
3074
3:29:28 --> 3:29:33
I think that she may be dying.
3075
3:29:33 --> 3:29:35
Yeah, she may already be gone.
3076
3:29:35 --> 3:29:36
Who knows?
3077
3:29:36 --> 3:29:[privacy contact redaction] like I feel a bit foolish after Covid because I feel like you look back in history on things that came before and you think, oh, how did I miss that?
3078
3:29:48 --> 3:29:56
Because I think Covid was the great revealer because you saw every single one of these countries marching lockstep with each other.
3079
3:29:56 --> 3:30:02
And that's that's Russia, Ukraine, roughly the same policy, Texas, roughly the same policy.
3080
3:30:02 --> 3:30:10
All of these different nations who are allegedly enemies somehow managed to come up with exactly the same policies and potentially barring China.
3081
3:30:10 --> 3:30:[privacy contact redaction]ly what was happening there?
3082
3:30:12 --> 3:30:27
But even Iran, allegedly the enemy of the West, managed to pull off the fanciest, swankiest vaccine passport that linked to payment systems.
3083
3:30:27 --> 3:30:32
So are they our enemies?
3084
3:30:32 --> 3:30:35
I'm not so sure.
3085
3:30:36 --> 3:30:41
And Yevgeny was making a cheeky remark about me not believing in nukes.
3086
3:30:41 --> 3:30:[privacy contact redaction]e in this chat don't believe in this.
3087
3:30:45 --> 3:30:47
Thank you for that, mate.
3088
3:30:47 --> 3:30:50
It's not that I don't believe in nukes.
3089
3:30:50 --> 3:30:51
I don't believe in nukes.
3090
3:30:51 --> 3:31:06
It's just that I don't believe that people that are going to such extent to organize things are about to detonate the switch on all of their hard work over the last 100, 200.
3091
3:31:06 --> 3:31:07
Yeah, I agree.
3092
3:31:07 --> 3:31:12
Well, so you mean that it's a big play.
3093
3:31:12 --> 3:31:16
Who was it who said all the world's a stage?
3094
3:31:16 --> 3:31:17
Yeah, yeah.
3095
3:31:17 --> 3:31:26
You know, I personally I think that I need to be careful what I say here because I haven't outed myself from my profession yet, Stephen.
3096
3:31:26 --> 3:31:[privacy contact redaction] that the European Union had eight eight slots on their vaccine passport digital app.
3097
3:31:35 --> 3:31:[privacy contact redaction]n't come anywhere near eight.
3098
3:31:40 --> 3:31:45
And that means that we had an operation that was incomplete.
3099
3:31:45 --> 3:31:[privacy contact redaction] loose ends that need tying up and whether that means that this is a distraction for the cancers that are happening or the other issues that are taking place.
3100
3:31:57 --> 3:32:03
I mean, this is just an exercise in imagination.
3101
3:32:03 --> 3:32:[privacy contact redaction] a lot of people that need to be hushed and that a war between the biggest powers would achieve that?
3102
3:32:13 --> 3:32:15
I don't know.
3103
3:32:15 --> 3:32:18
But I get the impression that we're being pushed into war.
3104
3:32:18 --> 3:32:21
So from that point of view, yeah, destruction is coming.
3105
3:32:21 --> 3:32:26
But I don't think it's going to be with with and I don't know much about nukes, but I think of nukes.
3106
3:32:26 --> 3:32:31
I think of, you know, big fucking bombs.
3107
3:32:31 --> 3:32:37
I don't think it's going to be that it should be more tactical because lots of effort has gone in before this.
3108
3:32:37 --> 3:32:40
So but yeah, what do you think about that?
3109
3:32:40 --> 3:32:43
Again, because I think I think that covid was the great revealer.
3110
3:32:43 --> 3:32:49
And I don't think you can I don't think you can like absolutely say they're not all working together.
3111
3:32:49 --> 3:32:50
There isn't one world government.
3112
3:32:50 --> 3:33:00
There isn't one one guy pulling the string on everything because actually we've got a great deal of evidence that says there is somebody that there is a whip for every single country.
3113
3:33:00 --> 3:33:02
And you saw it happen.
3114
3:33:02 --> 3:33:04
And you can't rule out.
3115
3:33:04 --> 3:33:[privacy contact redaction]ory, all the nations in the world agreed with each other or damn nearly all the nations.
3116
3:33:09 --> 3:33:14
Yeah, just just quick reply to the comment in the in the chat.
3117
3:33:14 --> 3:33:18
Somebody mentions, I think, and if mentions their time.
3118
3:33:18 --> 3:33:22
Tamil poet, medieval poet, T. R. Kural.
3119
3:33:22 --> 3:33:30
I will say, yes, I got it at home here in in the anthology of the medieval Indian poetry in Russia.
3120
3:33:30 --> 3:33:[privacy contact redaction], this poet, he was there was a separate book of all his poems.
3121
3:33:35 --> 3:33:49
But again, there were so many points that, you know, it's only like a Babylonian library or Alexandria Library can like have like all all these books like all these translations.
3122
3:33:49 --> 3:33:52
Yeah.
3123
3:33:52 --> 3:33:58
But again, you can find the you can find the like masterpieces and the pills like everywhere, everywhere.
3124
3:33:58 --> 3:34:06
And quite often apart from the poems, we need to know the historical and cultural ground.
3125
3:34:06 --> 3:34:08
What was going on there?
3126
3:34:08 --> 3:34:11
Because again, like it's a huge ocean.
3127
3:34:11 --> 3:34:20
I didn't mention that in India, apart from the medieval drama by Kalidasa and the rest, there were I think in 12th, 13th century,
3128
3:34:20 --> 3:34:31
there were several anthologies of tales like we can say similar in the similar to in certain way 2001 nights composed by some endeavor.
3129
3:34:31 --> 3:34:33
And this is something, guys.
3130
3:34:33 --> 3:34:40
I mean, like the world the world treasure is just full of like of pearls.
3131
3:34:40 --> 3:34:[privacy contact redaction]e your time for a plan.
3132
3:34:44 --> 3:34:[privacy contact redaction]an shrug the shoulders, you know.
3133
3:34:47 --> 3:34:48
Yeah.
3134
3:34:48 --> 3:34:59
And there and there is so much wisdom like in all these guys from the past that, you know, what else?
3135
3:34:59 --> 3:35:00
What else?
3136
3:35:00 --> 3:35:01
Yeah.
3137
3:35:01 --> 3:35:05
There's certainly not much wisdom in the in the in the people these days.
3138
3:35:05 --> 3:35:06
Yeah.
3139
3:35:06 --> 3:35:[privacy contact redaction]e are purporting to lead us.
3140
3:35:08 --> 3:35:09
Yeah.
3141
3:35:09 --> 3:35:19
The thing is that we're dealing with this when we're analyzing certain like events, it's difficult to get it because there's so much informational noise.
3142
3:35:19 --> 3:35:20
Yeah.
3143
3:35:20 --> 3:35:28
And as we know, the same fact could be like shown like in different ways, like manipulated or whatever.
3144
3:35:28 --> 3:35:40
But the certain crucial information and I always say it will be interesting like to search and to look into power.
3145
3:35:40 --> 3:35:[privacy contact redaction]e in charge or how call them today ruling class, which is in shadow.
3146
3:35:50 --> 3:35:57
Whom we see on the surface is like the king and his family or certain people like in the parliament or whoever.
3147
3:35:57 --> 3:36:01
But we don't see people in shadow because they are in shadow.
3148
3:36:01 --> 3:36:03
All these guys like in every country.
3149
3:36:03 --> 3:36:08
So we don't we see Putin, but he's like on the surface, just a symbol of the system.
3150
3:36:08 --> 3:36:15
But there are definitely several competing like, I don't know, seven, eight groups with the different people.
3151
3:36:15 --> 3:36:22
So and I know that in Russia, in Russia, it's impossible to predict what does it mean.
3152
3:36:22 --> 3:36:[privacy contact redaction]e, the former Minister of Defense, Sho Yigo, he's now promoted or fired, whatever, to the position of the secretary of this defense committee.
3153
3:36:34 --> 3:36:36
So what does it mean?
3154
3:36:36 --> 3:36:[privacy contact redaction]?
3155
3:36:39 --> 3:36:[privacy contact redaction]e, they try to make some sort of predictions or make any conclusions.
3156
3:36:42 --> 3:36:52
It's impossible in this sort of Byzantine system, which I believe exists almost in every country where there are a lot of actors with whom we don't see.
3157
3:36:52 --> 3:36:58
Yeah. So you're getting that's a good place, maybe to end.
3158
3:36:58 --> 3:37:02
And well, not least because I think you need a rest.
3159
3:37:02 --> 3:37:06
You've been going for three hours and [privacy contact redaction]
3160
3:37:06 --> 3:37:07
That's pretty good.
3161
3:37:07 --> 3:37:14
I feel I feel guilt and shame because I thought that we will do everything we should do everything like in two hours, 15 minutes.
3162
3:37:14 --> 3:37:[privacy contact redaction] on gentle for everything.
3163
3:37:18 --> 3:37:22
Yeah. Well, we were encouraging you, Yevgeny.
3164
3:37:22 --> 3:37:27
So all I hope and I'm not a very good interviewer.
3165
3:37:27 --> 3:37:29
I never thought I'd be doing.
3166
3:37:29 --> 3:37:31
Well, it wasn't an interview, was it?
3167
3:37:31 --> 3:37:[privacy contact redaction] tried to create an atmosphere in which you felt comfortable because I thought that you well, I was convinced before you even started that this was going to be a special call.
3168
3:37:44 --> 3:37:[privacy contact redaction], you haven't had the letters down.
3169
3:37:47 --> 3:37:49
Thank you so much.
3170
3:37:49 --> 3:37:52
Don't mention it.
3171
3:37:52 --> 3:37:53
Okay. Thank you so much.
3172
3:37:53 --> 3:37:59
You'll get to all the invitations for future meetings now, Yevgeny, as a past guest.
3173
3:37:59 --> 3:38:[privacy contact redaction] check with Hans Benjamin.
3174
3:38:01 --> 3:38:10
Hans Benjamin, do you get the all the invitations still?
3175
3:38:10 --> 3:38:16
You muted Hans.
3176
3:38:16 --> 3:38:21
Yeah, I think I get most of them.
3177
3:38:21 --> 3:38:22
Sometimes I wonder.
3178
3:38:22 --> 3:38:25
So you'll get all the future invitation.
3179
3:38:25 --> 3:38:[privacy contact redaction] meetings twice a week, Yevgeny.
3180
3:38:28 --> 3:38:31
You don't have to come, but you're very welcome if you do come.
3181
3:38:31 --> 3:38:36
And especially if you like asking good questions.
3182
3:38:36 --> 3:38:38
Okay.
3183
3:38:38 --> 3:38:39
Thanks so much.
3184
3:38:39 --> 3:38:[privacy contact redaction]ayed.
3185
3:38:41 --> 3:38:42
Thank you.
3186
3:38:42 --> 3:38:44
Yes.
3187
3:38:44 --> 3:38:47
Oh, by the way, we'll send you the chat.
3188
3:38:47 --> 3:38:49
Oh, maybe I should save that.
3189
3:38:49 --> 3:38:55
And we will send you the link to this video, which is recorded.
3190
3:38:55 --> 3:38:[privacy contact redaction] noticed, somebody asked the question in the last moment.
3191
3:38:58 --> 3:38:59
Do you read in the original languages?
3192
3:38:59 --> 3:39:07
I will say that, first of all, and I am getting everything in my head in Russian translations, in good Russian translations.
3193
3:39:07 --> 3:39:16
I read in the original languages only in the case if I want to revise the language, if I want to revise like Spanish or French or Italian or German.
3194
3:39:16 --> 3:39:17
So in this case, all Latin.
3195
3:39:17 --> 3:39:26
So that will be like the month or two months where I will read the same extracts, the books I'm reading, like in parallel.
3196
3:39:26 --> 3:39:34
I enjoy reading in Russian because Russian, they have more associations with my like what I read.
3197
3:39:34 --> 3:39:[privacy contact redaction], we should be able to find at least in English, shouldn't we?
3198
3:39:38 --> 3:39:41
All of them.
3199
3:39:41 --> 3:39:43
But of course, the translations may not be as good.
3200
3:39:43 --> 3:39:[privacy contact redaction], we'll try to wade through all those books.
3201
3:39:49 --> 3:39:51
Thank you so much.
3202
3:39:51 --> 3:39:52
OK, bye for now.
3203
3:39:52 --> 3:39:53
Brilliant presentation.
3204
3:39:53 --> 3:39:54
Thank you.
