meted and greeted everyone in the surgery.
I went to the corridor where there were seven people
and I just sat down, introduced myself
and was listening to their conversation
and they were waiting to have a COVID jab,
a flu jab or both.
So I struck up a conversation to understand
if they knew about the risks.
And it was a very interesting conversation.
Number one is not one of them knew about any risks.
Number two, they didn't know about informed consent.
Number three, they didn't know about the yellow card system.
Number four, they didn't know if they got a vaccine injury
they would not receive any more than 120 pounds,
120,000 if they were 60% injured.
And then we had people were unsure
that anyone had been injured.
So I showed them the amputation that Alec Mitchell had had
that kind of like raised some concerns
but I was then challenged that is that from the vaccine?
When I was able to prove it was,
what happened was the next person was called.
They obviously went in to see the person
administering the vaccination
and then the vaccinator came out
and asked me to remove myself.
I didn't, I challenged them on the informed consent.
I challenged them if they told everyone
about the lipid nanoparticles going throughout the body
and they walked away.
So I will be going down again this coming week
and I'll do it again.
Yeah, wonderful Mark, that is brilliant.
Can I ask Mark, what was the vaccinated?
What was the reason that the vaccinated was the vaccinated?
She was just working for the pharmacy.
It's obviously for money.
The GP is not doing it.
So yeah, so does she think it's right
that she's giving vaccinations
when she doesn't even know?
Well, we weren't able to have that conversation
Steven, right, she walked off, right?
But, and I didn't think that someone
was gonna come towards me and ask.
So what I've decided is when I go down next time,
I'll be more prepared and I will tackle it head on.
But before that, I will go and see the GP
and the practice manager to have a word with them first.
Yeah.
Well, don't take any guns.
Well done, Mark, that is a wonderful inspiring story
and it ties into the conversation
we've been having about the tipping point
that the Trump election is a tipping point
that inspires and encourages.
It doesn't matter what Trump does,
the cat is out of the bag.
That's the point about tipping points.
It doesn't require us to rely on Trump or Kennedy
or anybody, we go, wow, each one of us
can do what Mark is doing, what Jerry is doing.
And it gives us its encouragement.
It's an external source of courage to go,
no, these steps that we take have an impact
and you've just had an impact on a number of people's lives,
Mark, it's wonderful.
Sebastian.
Well, hopefully, one person, there was one person
that was there and they didn't really know
why they were there.
So obviously, they may have not gone in, right?
I hope so.
Yes.
Sebastian, then Glenn, then Anders.
Okay, thank you, Charles.
I'd like to say thanks to Tom Robbman
for just posting this, that Biden actually has just allowed
the US arms to fire into deep Russia.
So Reuters, he posted it here on the chat,
in the chat box.
And it is, if this is true, I mean, Reuters
is not the onion, but this is exactly what I was speaking
about last week with some of the folks from the Durand.
If this is true, this is going to escalate
the whole situation.
Now Russia, now that Zelensky has actually said
that he does have the capability of building
a Fat Man type nuclear weapon.
That's all the Russians need to hear.
I mean, when January, 2022, when he says that Ukraine
wanted to achieve nuclear power, weapons power,
Russia actually went in on a couple of days later.
So this was the Munich Security Conference
and Russia just went in, I think it was on the 24th
of February, sorry, of January.
And now that he has said he's gonna build
a Fat Man type of bomb, and they do have the material
to do it, and every nuclear facility does have
the possibility to do that.
And that Joe Biden has now released long range weapons,
so attack weapons, which are not really, thank goodness,
that long range, but 190 miles.
We can gather and we can bet our bottom dollar
that Russia is going to start using significant force.
Now, yesterday they did a tremendous strike within Ukraine.
It has been the largest strike that we have seen
since the beginning of the SMO.
This could mean literally the full invasion of Ukraine
all the way to the Western border.
Let us pray that poorer heads prevail.
Thank you.
Thank you, Sebastian.
Glenn.
You wonder where Biden gets the mandate
from to do something like that.
No, he doesn't get the mandate.
He gets the instructions from Barrett.
Not the mandate, the authority.
Yes, exactly, you wouldn't think he's got any authority
at the moment.
No.
Glenn.
Hi, I want to speak to a variety of things
relative to positions that the Trump administration
is taking and some of the other people associated with them
in particular, R.F.K. Jr.
You've probably heard that he is certainly not going
to prevent people from getting vaccines
and it's more around giving awareness
of their own decisions.
However, don't feel that that means they're going
to allow the COVID vaccine to continue.
The COVID vaccine is much different
because there's a mountain in wealth of accurate scientific
and medical data to indicate it is not at all safe
and never has been.
And so you should expect that soon as his administration
takes over authority in the end of January,
that there will be steps taken to institute a premier team
to review it and I don't think it'll take very many weeks
to go through a review and therefore completely suspend
the COVID vaccine.
Now, the evil elites certainly don't want that to happen
and so they're doing everything they can
to fight back against it and they're sponsoring
all kinds of people to put out crazy messages
around not only R.F.K. Jr. but Elon Musk.
These are all great, righteous, wonderful patriots
and so people that are hearing some of these fear stories,
you got to ignore them, you got to recognize
that that is being pushed from the evil elite side.
They will do anything to try to prevent this wave
from being fully effective.
But there was a couple things that are natural
and occurring and again, at every opportunity,
people need to be thinking around how do I join in
in this wave of success and movement back toward humanity
and away from the evil elite and the slavery
they've been putting us through, thank you.
Glenn, is it true that R.F.K. Jr. has told the CDC
and the FDA and others that they need
to preserve their documents
and they also need to pack their bags?
What he's building as part of a position paper
is not anything he has authority to do right now.
So he cannot direct any individuals.
Trump is not the president, he is not the head
of HHS yet and so there may be things you heard
that they're creating as position papers
but from a directing note that has not happened,
that would be violating the current laws within the US.
So Glenn, everyone knows now that Trump's won this election
and so the CDC people, the bureaucrats,
the FDA people, they might think
that they can destroy documents now.
So what I'm saying is, do you think there's any way that,
so I have heard that R.F.K. Jr. has done just that,
not through official channels presumably
but just in interviews and saying that they need
to preserve their records because it's a criminal offense
to destroy documents which may be relevant in the future.
But also that they need to pack their bags.
In other words, they're coming for them.
Is that, it would be nice if you had, sorry?
That is accurate.
You're talking about a president that's not afraid
to say you're fired for cause.
Sure.
And they believe there's plenty of cause to show
and they're not gonna be afraid to use those.
And the notion, if you've heard that the head
of the FBI who gets a 10-year appointment
is intending to stay through the administration,
that is completely foolish bunk.
First week he will be asked for his resignation
and he won't have any other option.
There's no mechanism in the U.S. Constitution
that allows an appointment from the administration
to stay in place because they wanna leave.
Okay, let's keep moving.
Before we get to Anders, Stephen,
I hosted a webinar on Thursday with Larry Pilevsky.
Oh yes, I've heard his name.
I can't remember.
He's presented to us.
Oh sorry, that's bad.
Well, you're allowed to forget from time to time,
but Larry, he's a spectacular, well-informed,
holistic pediatrician.
Oh yes, now it's coming back, yeah.
Yeah, and he presented everybody
on a platform called Inform Me.
Now this is a new educational platform
to teach people about vaccines,
so they're making informed decisions.
And Larry's, that was a Q&A that I was moderating
of three presenters talking on the history of vaccines.
And Larry went brilliantly through,
I'll put the link into the chat, it's free.
And what he said, here's the false belief,
six false beliefs about vaccines.
He goes through it beautifully, but it's worth,
I'll put this into the chat.
Here's the false beliefs, the underlying myths,
the fraud about children's vaccines,
so Bobby Kennedy's just being careful.
Number one, vaccines are safe, false.
Number two, vaccine injuries are rare, false.
Number three, unvaxxed kids cause outbreaks of disease,
false.
Number four, if you are vaxxed,
you can't transmit disease, false.
Number five, that if you are vaxxed,
it helps your autoimmune system.
False, number six, if you're vaxxed,
you are being exposed to a quote new, end quote germ, false.
So the six big, big lies.
Larry is profoundly important on this.
And then Ted Kuntz, I haven't heard of,
unfortunate name, but K-U-N-T-Z,
I don't know if any of you have heard of Ted Kuntz.
Yeah, I've heard of him, but I can't remember what he's
He's famous on the dangers of vaccines as well.
And he's, great quote everybody.
The benefits of vaccination are theoretical.
However, the risks are real.
Great quote.
The benefits of vaccination are theoretical.
The risks are real.
Larry Polewski, you want anyone, the website,
I'll put it in the chat is informme.org.
It's a wonderful source to send people to,
in an unthreatening way.
So just have a look at that website.
It's an opportunity, a bit like what Anders is doing.
We're going to do Anders now on 5G, warning people,
hey, here's the information.
Don't listen to government.
And the other big benefit of what we've been through
in the Australian inquiry into the COVID response came out
and people say, we're gonna rebuild trust in government.
No, and John Rappaport says it beautifully, Stephen,
and you are like this as well.
Never trust government again.
No, exactly.
Never trust government again.
That's got to be our mantra and hold them to account
each time.
Give us the evidence for that proposition.
We don't trust you.
Any politician, we don't trust you,
except for Jerry Waters, of course,
if he becomes a politician.
Yeah, so it seems to me that any government is,
so power corrupts and absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
So, and any government, obviously,
to be the government has to have power.
And so that means, given the failings of human beings,
it's inevitable always that government is going to tend
towards tyranny and bad stuff.
Yeah, so, but the Swedes,
the Swedes are very impressed with their government.
Yeah.
Which is why they need the lockdowns, of course.
Yes, correct, yes, correct.
Very good, Anders.
So Sweden is a pilot study,
it seems to me, Charles, for totalitarianism.
Yeah.
Sorry to be so harsh on Sweden,
but they shouldn't have volunteered to be the pilot study,
but there we go.
Yeah, I agree.
Anders.
Yes, thank you, Charles.
I would like to add that I was a bit hot in the morning,
so I sent also a second email about Breggen.
And this is an essay, or it's an attack on
Matthias Dasmott and...
Still going on about that.
They're stuck in that rabbit hole still,
but anyway, carry on, Anders.
Yeah, yeah.
But I don't want to go too deep in that.
I'll just mention it.
There is a big attack on Matthias Dasmott and...
Yeah.
Others.
Yeah, there is a name, number of people there.
So I refer to that.
It is a big story because it is...
We are all, even in this group, Charles and Steven,
we are probably subject to the same type of infiltration
which my good friend, Ryan of Fumich, had in his group.
And in this email I referred to,
they are referring to the attacks and who did it.
And this is, let's say, Vivian Fisher.
I know her.
I've been having some email exchange with her.
I don't want to go there.
This was including Naomi Wolf.
It was including Mike Jeden.
It was including...
Wardarg.
I don't want to go there, okay?
This is another story.
What I would like to say is that there is another story.
And the story is that we need to look into...
Let me see now if I can...
No, maybe I don't want to go there.
I don't have time, but maybe I can share, Charles?
Yep, okay.
Just one second.
I'm not allowed at the moment, but let's say...
You can share now.
I am preparing.
I'm preparing.
I've been working a little bit close
with the Children's Healthy Funds lately
with Astrid Stuckelberger, with others.
And what I will say, it's a huge challenge.
It's a huge challenge because it is...
Let me see now if I'm going into it.
By the way, Anders, Astrid Stuckelberger is speaking
to us, I think, on Tuesday.
I know, I know that.
So I've been preparing something for next Thursday,
a presentation to Children's Healthy Funds.
And let's say, what I will say to you guys is that
it is one thing to see the problems,
which we saw with this email I shared with Charles
about the problems.
What is more important or equally important
to see the problems is to look at the solutions
to the problems.
And I don't want to have a single...
I don't want to promote any single product.
I want to go into the different types of protocols,
including the radiation, the detox,
the problem with the water.
With that, we are exposed to these chemicals
and radiation which have big problems for our minerals
and vitamins.
And also to the pH, we have a situation with the smart cities
which Mark, Steele, and me have talked about.
We have a talk about the situation outside the cities,
the propaganda, the financial stories about the money.
And we need to educate our closest friends.
And this is, let's say, a story which is wide.
One is to know about the problem.
A second story is to know about
how do we deal with the problems.
And I'm happy to work on that.
And I work with a team.
And yeah, I'm happy to work with Astrid and many others.
This is the main story.
We can say we have a problem.
And that is causing frustration and headache
and different types of, let's say, psychological issues.
We need to get deeper and understand the nature
of the problem and how we deal with it.
And this is my message to you.
We need to go there, but okay.
Okay, and as we've got Ahmed,
Ahmed has arrived, which is great.
Very good, very good.
And that listing is excellent, all right?
It's, that's what we need to understand,
that there are steps that we can take
and that work you're doing
with Children's Health Defence is wonderful.
And I'm letting everyone know that on the weekend,
there was a weekend conference,
Saturday and Sunday, Stephen,
of the Australians for Science and Freedom.
And some of the speakers have spoken to us here,
including Ian Brighthope, including Julian Gillespie,
lots of conversation around the corruption
of the legal system.
And Anders, Robin Cosford, who is an Ian Brighthope,
both talked about those holistic steps that we can deal,
we can take, which included numerous ones
that you've taken.
And your work on that with Children's Health Defence
is gonna be wonderful as well.
Well, good job.
Okay, here's our...
Charles, I just wanna say that Ian McDermott,
who's a British medical doctor,
he was asking whether Ahmed is speaking tonight.
Well, he is and he's here now.
Yeah, of course he is.
If people read the chat,
they'll see that I'll be putting warnings in there
that Ahmed is coming and da-da-da-da, he has arrived.
So, all right, everybody,
we will get this show on the road.
Doc Malik is famous.
Welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID.
Doctor Malik is here.
Doctor Malik is there.
Someone who is just a second.
We've got some background noise, Tom can handle it.
So welcome, we've had a chat for the last half hour.
Some of that has been usefully recorded.
There's some useful information there,
but welcome to today's discussion.
This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost
over three years ago.
And Stephen, his medical specialty is radiology.
I'm Charles Covess, I'm in Australia.
I'm a former lawyer.
And for 14 years, I've helped parents and lawyers
to strategize remedies for vaccine damage
and damage from bad medical advice.
I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company.
At this time, we remember Rainer Fulmick,
who is unlawfully incarcerated in a German jail,
undergoing an unlawful show trial
by the German court system.
And anything that we can do to shine a light
on what's happening to Rainer is of value.
We comprise lots of professions here.
We're from all around the world.
If this is your first time here,
please introduce yourself in the chat.
The many of us understand
we're in the middle of World War III.
I consider we're four and a half years into a seven year war,
but this morning we heard earlier
that perhaps we're in a six year war
with one and a half years to go.
And I do consider personally that the election of Trump
is a crucial tipping point for humanity.
Doesn't matter what Trump does.
Trump's re-election has galvanized freedom groups,
freedom fighters, truth seekers around the world.
I can feel it, I can see it.
And the cat is even more out of the bag
and that's Sebastian's cat.
Most of us understand the development of science
and the science is never settled.
The meeting runs for two and a half hours,
after which for those with the time,
Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting.
We will listen to Doc Malik, Ahmad Malik,
for as long as Ahmad wishes to speak.
Now we're gonna be careful here
because Ahmad can speak for the next two and a half hours,
but that's another issue.
And then Stephen Frost, by long established tradition,
will ask the first series of questions for 15 minutes.
This is a free speech environment.
If you are offended by anything, be offended.
We are lovingly not interested.
We reject the offence industry that requires nobody
to say anything that may offend another.
That's wonderful to see some of President Trump's
selections for key positions who are responding
to journalists who say that's offensive
and the person says, I don't care.
It's a great response to someone who says, I'm offended.
I don't care.
You also reject the triggering industry.
However, we come with an attitude
and perspective of love, not fear.
Fear is not gonna take us where we want humanity to go.
Fear is the opposite of love.
Fear squashes you and enslaves you.
Love, on the other hand, liberates you and expands you.
These twice weekly meetings are not just talkfests.
They're an extraordinary range of actions
and initiatives have been generated
from linkages made by attendees in these meetings.
If you have a solution or a product, put it in the chat.
Daria has put into the chat,
the G Edward Griffin Red Pill Expo that's online now.
And there's been some wonderful speakers over the weekend,
but because I've been into a live conference for two days,
I've paid to have full access to the recordings
from Edward Griffin's conference.
Some of you here may well have spoken,
may well have spoken at that conference.
The meeting is recorded, is uploaded on the Rumble channel.
And then welcome to our guest presenter,
Dr. Ahmad Malik from the UK.
We thank you Ahmad for giving us your time.
He's famous as the Doc Malik.
He was a surgeon, the hospitals canceled him
and clearly he's been canceled
because he's a friend of Stephen Frost's.
That's enough intro because everyone knows
who Doc Malik is.
Ahmad, we are in your hands,
Stephen, you want to say anything to Ahmad?
Yeah, so Ahmad, we discussed last night
and I just kind of passed it on to Ahmad that,
yeah, there was no pandemic.
This was a cultural revolution on the lines
of Mao Tse-Tung's cultural revolution in China.
And so Ahmad was going to go away
and diligently research it for 24 hours and come back
and tell us all about China's cultural revolution
and see if we can identify any parallels.
It doesn't matter, we're not gonna hold you to account.
If you haven't done your homework, we don't mind.
All right, okay.
First of all, I just want to say the guy,
Ken McKenzie driving in Canada.
I love the fact he's driving and he's driving so long
that you can listen to this episode.
Ken McKenzie in Canada, I love you, man.
Just to let you know, today I had a waffle
with maple syrup and remembrance of the Canadian truckers
because I identify as a trucker, honk, honk, right?
I mean, do you remember in the middle of the pandemic
when we were like the bleakest of bleakest moments
and then suddenly there was a resistance.
These truckers in these massive, massive trucks
were like, no, we've had enough of this bullshit.
God bless them and I love them very much.
All right, okay.
In minus 40, Ahmad, in minus 40 degrees centigrade.
Exactly, exactly.
Anyway, what I wanted to just quickly tell everybody
is I'm sorry to keep you waiting.
It's just my wife is working on call this week.
She doesn't get home for another hour and a half.
And I've got three kids and I had to put them to sleep
and bedtime stories and all that kind of stuff.
And I also didn't have very much time to prepare for today
because last night I was talking to Stephen.
We talked quite a lot and he was struggling to get a guest
at the last minute.
I tried to find someone for him and he's gonna come on
in a couple of weeks time, so he can't make it today.
So I'm filling in.
That was Minotti by the way.
Exactly, Robin Minotti will come on.
So I'm sorry if I'm not exactly polished.
I just wanna take this moment to show off my new LED light.
What do you think of that?
Isn't that nice, that Doc Malek sign?
I'm very happy with that.
It looks like something out of Twin Peaks.
Yeah, I love it, I love it.
Jerry Waters, just wanna say you look just as ugly
as usual by the way.
You're looking great there.
Anyway, let's move on.
Listen.
You should know that Jerry is metamorphosing
into a politician.
Yeah, I know, I know.
He's got a jacket on, he had a tie on before.
I know, he's been wanting to do this for years.
Everybody's used the pandemic for their own ends.
Some people wanted to get famous,
some wanted to get rich.
He wants to become a politician, God knows why.
Anyway, let's move on.
Listen, Charles.
You're such a horrible person.
You really are, Achmed.
Honestly, you're such a horrible person.
I can't imagine that I could still be your friend.
Yeah, well, feel on you then.
I'll be your friend, Jerry, I can assure you.
He's disgusting and insulting to me every time.
Every time I tried to comfort him in his misery,
he's insulting to me.
I tried to lift him up, I tried to drag him up by the ears.
I'm sure you told me that was your love language though.
Were you interviewed by him, Jerry?
By, I wouldn't bother going on his show.
Do you think I'm going to lower myself
now that I started wearing a tie?
Don't be silly.
Anyway, moving on, moving on.
Charles, Charles, your introductions are so smooth
and so fantastic every single time.
I mean, it's just so polished, honestly, amazing.
But you talked about Trump,
and I really want to talk about Trump for a minute
before we get into the Cultural Revolution.
One, because I didn't really do my homework very long.
I only watched about an hour of this podcast
about the Cultural Revolution.
So I'm not really 100% up to scratch on that.
But let's talk about Trump.
I want to talk about two scenarios, right?
I can envision in my head right now.
One, let's paint this scenario.
Okay, back in the 2010s,
Trump was a celebrity, successful businessman.
He's a billionaire, but he's one of us.
He's just on TV.
He's got a few billion.
I mean, who doesn't?
But he's a true outsider.
He's a true outsider, and he's a patriot.
And for some absolute freak,
this novice, never been involved in politics before,
he gets into the 2016 election.
And it was very unexpected,
and it was shocking to the establishment.
It shook them to the core,
because remember, Trump was not an insider,
and he was a newbie to politics.
And because he was a newbie to politics,
he wasn't really prepared for the machinery
of the government and especially the deep state.
And the federal bureaucracy,
all these 10,000 appointments and everything.
To be honest, he was a bit naive and a bit gullible.
He took advice from Republicans
who he thought was his friends,
but they ended up turning out to stab him in the back,
and they were basically rhinos, Republican in name only.
And then despite, he's a very intelligent man,
very skillful negotiator.
He's a successful businessman.
He's a master of the art of the deal.
He made a number of errors when it came to appointments
and team selection and the people that he had around him,
the neocons, the Boltons and all that kind of stuff.
And he basically got really bad advice from bad people,
and they let him down.
And everyone around him undermined Trump
from the civil service to the military.
He was attacked by the security agencies,
and the media, members of his own party.
There was disinformation campaigns, misinformation campaigns.
They talk about Russian interference, Russian collusion,
bogged down in legal issues.
I mean, the guy was really suffering.
People were out to get him,
and his presidency was bogged down,
and he couldn't clear the swamp, the DC swamp.
And then he had COVID to contend with.
I mean, the poor fella, all this stuff going on,
and now he's got COVID.
But do you know what?
It's okay, because he came up with Operation Warp Speed.
And with Operation Warp Speed,
the brightest minds of America and all the scientists,
you know what?
They were able to get this amazing vaccine out,
and they saved millions of lives,
and they got America out of the pandemic.
So he did a great job.
But he was lied to, even during COVID, he was lied to,
and he was let down and misled by key figures
in the federal bureaucracy, such as Fauci, et cetera.
But it's okay, it's okay.
They got out of the pandemic,
and he saved millions of lives.
But the problem is, you know,
by the time it came round to the re-election,
while in the first two years,
he was doing a great job with the economy, it was booming.
Jobs were coming home from abroad.
You then suddenly got the lockdowns, the pandemic,
and the costs that extolled in the economy,
in the global economy, and everything crashed.
It wasn't his fault.
He was a victim.
So his election was really hampered by that.
But it was also hampered by the lies
about the Russian collusion,
and the interference from the media,
and the fact that they lied about the Hunter Biden laptop,
Hunter Biden's corrupt ties with Ukraine,
and all the gas, and companies, and whatnot.
And the US three-letter agencies also conspired against Trump.
Voting machines were rigged,
and Biden, for some reason,
suddenly got an extra 10 to 20 million votes
compared to any other president.
It was quite amazing.
I mean, there was serious voter fraud on an industrial scale,
and it handed over the presidency to Biden,
who was rarely ever at a rally,
while Trump was drawing crowds
normally expected of a rock star.
You know, it was shocking.
It was like, what?
So, I mean, it really did feel like the election was stolen,
whether you believe it or not.
Something was not right.
And then, in contrast to Trump,
the last four years have seen the media
basically give a free pass to Biden, you know,
a president clearly suffering from dementia,
shaking hands with people who aren't even there, you know,
falling down stairs, non-existent stairs.
I mean, it's just absolutely incredible.
Falling off a bike when he's stationary.
I mean, I don't even know how you can do that.
I mean, the hypocrisy and the double standards
are plain to see.
And the new Biden administration, I mean, what did it do?
It appointed, you know, really fat, unhealthy people
as health secretaries, trans people,
and, you know, just tokenism.
You know, it was all superficial,
diversity quota, wokeism.
You know, that's what they're promoting.
Promoting woke ideology, you know, full steam ahead,
ahead, defund the police, all that kind of stuff.
And the fact that, you know,
you didn't have a strong leader like Trump
who had kept Putin in check.
Now with Biden, you know, Putin invaded Ukraine,
and, you know, Putin's now gonna take over Europe.
You know, everybody's now, you know, causing trouble
because, you know, you don't have a strong man
at the helm anymore.
You know, so Biden was a threat to global peace.
And, you know, the withdrawal from Afghanistan,
I mean, it made the withdrawal of the US troops
from Vietnam look like an orderly withdrawal.
I mean, what happened in Afghanistan was just shocking,
you know, but that was Biden for you, wasn't it?
And another four years under Biden and the Democrats
would have essentially ushered in a communist era
in the US.
I mean, it was just crazy.
I mean, it was insanity, you know, the Democrat party,
the corruption there, and the buffoonery, you know,
that was their politicians.
And thankfully, for some reason,
the doubly incontinent Biden was suddenly
not fit and healthy anymore,
and just withdrew from the race.
You know, after winning the primaries,
he just suddenly wasn't a candidate anymore.
And now you had Kamala, cackling Kamala,
who hasn't won a single vote,
is now lined up against Trump.
And to say that it was a fair race
is like comparing a third, you know,
pedigree against a donkey, you know,
and a lame donkey at that, maybe even a dead donkey.
I mean, it wasn't really a race, was it?
So anyway, Kamala, she didn't win.
I mean, and it's quite incredible,
because despite the voter fraud,
the celebrity endorsements,
the collusion of the security apparatus,
the media propaganda,
and the power of the evil ruling cabal,
Trump and his cool team won a thumping election.
Yay!
It's actually quite incredible.
It's just absolutely amazing.
You know, good can conquer evil.
We won.
We won, folks.
Job's done.
Everybody can go home now and just relax.
We should all be so happy.
You know, you just need to look
at all the people having a tantrum,
all the libs and all the Democrats, you know,
showing how they're disgusted at Trump's election
to know that that's it.
We have won, fait complete.
But this time around, folks, don't worry.
Trump is wiser.
He's got a better team around him.
And you know, this time,
he's not gonna make the same mistakes, right?
He's not gonna be fooled.
And not only will he make America great again,
he's actually gonna make it healthier.
He's gonna make it healthier.
And he's only appointed the Zionist war hawks
because, you know, don't you know,
he plays 5D chess, guys?
I mean, he plays 5D chess.
He's a smart guy, right?
So he's smarter than them all.
So don't worry about that.
He's gonna, you know the saying,
you know, keep your enemies close.
No, no, no, forget that.
Keep your enemies close
and your real enemies even closer, right?
He's got it all under control.
He knows what he's doing.
And the medical freedom movement,
it doesn't need to worry.
RFK Junior's now in the house.
Everything's gonna be fixed.
It's gonna be all right, folks.
Jay Baticherry might get a role.
Asim Mahotra, all these amazing people.
It's our side, our team.
We're winning.
We've actually got no reason to exist anymore, folks.
Like, seriously, we're gonna usher in a golden era.
And then, look guys, we've got Elon Musk, right?
I mean, he's just a superhero without a cape.
I mean, he's just incredible, right?
He's a genius.
He's running all these companies.
He's got such an amazing personality and sense of humor.
He goes on Joe Rogan's podcast.
I mean, next to Trump, that duo, they're invincible, right?
And what with Elon always going on about the woke madness,
we can see an end to that.
And, you know, we've got much better days ahead of us.
And then, look, I mean, look at the dream team.
You've got Tosie Gabbard with her great hair
and a little, you know, gray streak going on there.
You've got Joe Rogan endorsing.
You've got the young JD Vance.
You've got Peter Thiel, another cool tech, biotech,
AI, Palantir, drone killing, facial recognition,
billionaire, friendly billionaire, you know,
democracy friendly, people friendly billionaire.
We've got nothing to worry about, folks.
And all those billions of, you know,
so all of those billionaire Zionist donors,
like behind Trump as well, I mean, it's great, you know.
Israel first, no, no, I meant America first.
America first is all gonna be wonderful.
It's all gonna be great, right?
And now America, and by default,
the world is gonna enter a new golden era.
So I would say Keir Starmer, Justin Trudeau, Bill Gates,
Fauci, Klaus Schwab, and the rest.
There's no point even running, because you know what?
It doesn't matter where you hide,
Trump's long arm of justice is gonna come and get you,
and we're gonna see justice served.
Now guys, does that not sound fantastic, that scenario,
right, I mean, I don't know about you, but like, come on.
And you just need to go on Twitter,
and if you criticize Trump, you know,
you just get all these comments coming up saying,
oh no, but you know what?
Who else are we gonna believe in?
Then what hope have we got?
Don't be such a party pooper.
Trump is amazing, you're such a, you know,
you're just such a windbag, just be quiet,
just stop criticizing him, for God's sake,
he hasn't even got into power yet,
give him a chance, give him a chance, right?
So that's all the comments that you'll hear
from MAGA supporters, you know?
Give the man a chance, for God's sake, he's one of us,
right, forget his billions, forget his friends,
forget the fact he's been to Epstein Island,
forget all that, he's one of us.
He's got a sense of humor.
He talks to Joe Rogan about MMA, for God's sake,
don't you understand?
He's one of us.
Right, now let's see the flip side of the scenario, right?
How could we spin this the other way, right?
So well, we could spin this in that maybe Trump
isn't actually a newbie to politics,
he actually ran in 2000 for the president,
he was part of the Reform Party,
he was actually in the Democrat Party,
then the Reform Party, so politics isn't actually new to him.
He knows all the players, he's not,
maybe he's outside to politics per se,
but he's not naive, he's not an idiot.
Was it a shock to the establishment?
Maybe, if you believe that the establishment is like that.
But some people argue that actually,
all the parties are controlled by the same people,
and that what we're given is an illusion of choice.
Blue, red, left, right,
these are all just artificial constructs
to keep us, the little servants and the slaves,
entertained and believing in the fact
that actually we have got a choice.
And if you doubt that,
why don't you just go and watch Jones' plantation?
Jones' plantation makes it very clear
how we, the slaves, are fooled into thinking
we actually have choice.
We can vote out of tyranny.
Don't you understand that?
Why don't you vote out of tyranny?
No, maybe, maybe, maybe not, right?
So let's take a look about what did he do.
So he came on, he is very intelligent,
he keeps telling everybody how intelligent he is
and how smart he is, and he was attacked.
He was definitely attacked by a lot of people.
And maybe those people genuinely were attacking him,
but they didn't even know that they were in on an act.
Maybe they were fooled into attacking him
because the puppet masters at the top,
the puppets don't actually realize
that they're being controlled.
And what happened with COVID?
The funny thing is, if a democratic leader had won,
I doubt the Republican Party would have allowed
the lockdowns and all that kind of stuff.
It was only by having a populist leader in Trump
that he could convince the masses that actually,
guys, you need to trust me, we need to do,
this is serious, you need to listen to me,
we need to listen to Fauci and all the experts.
So in some respects, having a populist leader right wing
like Boris Johnson and Trump actually enabled
the pandemic to go ahead.
It was therefore because there was no opposition.
The only thing the Democrats did in the Labour Party
was actually cheer on for more.
And then what about Warp Speed?
I mean, even to this day, he brags and boasts
about Warp Speed and says that what an amazing thing it was
and how he saved millions of lives
and got people out of the pandemic.
And he actually, in an interview with Candice Owen said,
the vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind.
I came up with a vaccine with three vaccines.
All are very, very good, he said in an interview,
referring to the Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson shots.
And then he also went on to say,
the ones that get very sick and go to hospital,
the ones that don't do the vaccine,
but it's still their choice, he said.
And if you take the vaccine, you're protected.
The results of the vaccine are good.
And he even boasted about being boosted.
So his take on vaccines is quite unusual,
considering how much of us in the freedom movement
challenge what vaccines are all about
and how we can see the many flaws in vaccines.
On his recent interview on Joe Rogan,
it was very telling that he insinuated to Joe
that Joe had certain views on the COVID vaccine.
But then he went, but you know, polio,
polio, polio was a great vaccine.
It was a great vaccine, great vaccine.
You saved so many lives.
And all those poor people in Gaza,
those children in Gaza getting polio
because they can't get the vaccine.
So not only did he not talk about the vaccine harms
and the injuries with the mRNA tech,
not only did he not raise the issue of the mandates
and the problems with that,
he went on to endorse the polio vaccine
and by therefore most of the other vaccines.
And when he mentioned Gaza and the ongoing genocide there,
his only complaint was the fact that the poor children
couldn't get a vaccine.
The man clearly still believes in vaccines
and he isn't willing to criticize them.
Now some people say he was playing seven D chess
because if he came out and criticized vaccines
at that stage, then basically, you know,
no one would vote for him because he's an anti-vaxxer.
Well, he's in power now.
And I don't see why he can't comment on the vaccines now.
You know, he's won the election.
What's the issue now?
But he's not, he's not.
And then he talked about, again, very tellingly
on Joe Rogan about the fact that Hillary Clinton
was a crook and he had lots of evidence.
I've got so much evidence, so much evidence,
evidence, so much evidence.
Hillary was a criminal.
We could have locked her up.
And then he said he didn't.
He didn't because she was married to an ex-president.
So what he was saying was it didn't matter
that someone had committed multiple criminal acts
and there was evidence to prove it.
Because she was married to someone important,
justice wasn't gonna be served in her case.
She was above the law.
What does that say?
You know, I thought the last thing you would want
as a president would be to recommend that kind of language.
I would have said no one is above the law
and justice needs to be served and everyone is equal.
But according to Trump, he doesn't think so.
If you're rich and famous and married to important people,
you can get away with shit and it doesn't matter.
So that again was very, very interesting.
So let's go back on to other things.
Let's go on to Biden and Kamala.
You could argue that it was so badly rigged, the election,
that there was absolutely no chance
that the Democrats could win.
The establishment pulled the plug.
They made the lame duck, lame donkey so bad
that it would have been impossible for her to win.
They cleared the way.
And by the way, I'm watching the participant count
as dropping, dropping from the 70s now to 68.
And I'll tell you why, I'll tell you why it's dropping.
Because people don't like what I'm saying.
I'm just gonna stop for a second and say,
as a surgeon, I realized-
No, there's people who often have the chance
because it's now 4 p.m. in New York,
they'll go to another meeting.
Okay, okay, no, but I know, I know, I know,
but I'm also seeing some of the comments come up.
I'm gonna just quickly say something
and this is very, very important.
Two things that I realized as a doctor,
forget COVID, as a doctor,
I would have patients who saw another doctor,
who saw someone who wasn't even a doctor.
They would see someone who was pretending to be a doctor.
They were a healthcare assistant, whatever.
And they had just, you know, wore a suit and a tie
and they treated a patient.
And then when I said to the patient,
well, look, the reason why you got a complication
and everything's wrong
is because you didn't actually even see an MD.
That's not an MD you saw.
I don't know who you saw, but they've done.
They would get angry and upset at that.
Because what I was suggesting was that that person
was fooled and was gullible and was an idiot
by going to see the wrong person.
And another thing that people don't like
is being given bad news.
They shoot the messenger.
The saying shoot the messenger comes there for a reason.
Because if you deliver bad news to someone,
the natural reaction is to despise the person
who delivered the news,
even though they never created the bad news or the problem
and had nothing to do with it.
So people don't like being fooled and admitting to it
and being gullible.
And people do not like being delivered bad news.
So if anyone criticizes Trump at this stage,
it's like the people during COVID
who fell for the COVID pandemic.
If we try and tell them that, by the way,
you're a bit silly for falling for that
and you took an experimental shot, that's dangerous.
Rather than say, oh shit, they get angry with you
because you're making them look out to be stupid.
And then when you tell them the bad news and the data,
they wanna shoot the messenger.
So dealing with the COVID people
is very much dealing like people with MAGA, MAGA Trump,
because if you are challenging their belief system
and saying that maybe your belief in Trump is misplaced,
he isn't your savior and actually could be really bad for us
just like all of them, all of them.
And that we need to have our wits about us.
We need to make sure we don't get fooled
or tricked or complacent.
People don't like that.
They're gonna shoot the messenger.
So anyway, I just wanted to quickly say that.
So anyway, I feel like this time around,
we didn't really have a choice.
It wasn't really an election.
It was an appointment.
Kamala was never gonna win, never.
It was just ridiculous.
The cool team was behind Trump.
And more importantly, one could argue the second scenario,
that the establishment was behind Trump.
They flayed the woke ideology, the trans ideology.
People are sick and tired of that.
Time to change the narrative.
Flip the switch, get everybody on board
with the new guy on the block.
And you know what?
This time through populism and fixing
and everyone's frustration,
we are all gonna vote and select for our own imprisonment.
So I'll give an example.
Why did everybody take an experimental shot?
Because their lives were made absolutely miserable.
They were locked down, social distancing,
masking, mandating.
Life was terrible.
I remember they kept saying,
you won't get back to normal until we get a vaccine.
So you create a situation that's so insufferable
and intolerable that we will beg our oppressors
for a solution and accept whatever they offer,
including in an experimental shot.
And maybe scenario two, under Biden,
under a demented doubling continent leader
and a Kamala and communist era,
potentially just around the corner,
we, the populists, would beg for the alternative.
Now the question is, what is Trump going to usher in?
Is he going to usher in the golden era
that I talked about in the beginning, or is he not?
Now what a second option would be,
we need to be careful and wary
because who is he surrounding himself by?
Look at his appointments.
They're all Zionist war hawks.
They all want a war with Iran.
They all want to continue pumping arms to Israel.
And you've got someone who wants to put chips
in people's brains.
You've got people who want, you've got Trump,
who would be keen to bring in things like digital ID.
Maybe there'll be some false flag event.
Maybe there'll be some crisis with the migrants.
And you know what?
These goddamn pesky migrants and this invasion,
everybody needs to get a digital ID.
Maybe it'll be digital currency.
I don't know, but what will happen is
because we all think he is our savior,
if it comes from him, if the solution comes from him,
most people will accept it and go, you know what?
He's one of us.
We need to accept what he's saying.
Forget about the fact that Peter Thiel has got,
security contracts with all the military industrial complex.
Forget the fact that they're all deep in biotech.
I mean, look at Vivek's, whatever his name is.
He's in biotech.
Elon Musk, I mean, you can go on Twitter
on Jane Ruby's Twitter feed.
You can see him tweeting, we're gonna be developing,
Tesla's gonna be developing mRNA tech.
These guys were all involved in the mRNA tech
and biotech and gene therapies.
And they still are, many of them still are.
Are they really gonna criticize mRNA technology?
Why is Moderna, which is an arm of the DoD,
still producing thousands of,
hundreds of factories across the world?
They feel pretty confident in their contracts.
So the question is, can we blindly trust Trump
or is he just another side of the establishment deep state?
And what I would say is,
I don't know if it's scenario A or scenario B.
There might be a scenario three, like, you know, C.
And a third scenario that we don't even know.
It might be even Trump is being played.
Who knows?
What I'm worried about though,
is many in the dissident and freedom,
so-called freedom movement,
are just looking for a savior
and putting everything behind Trump,
as if, you know what, everything's done now.
We can all relax.
And my take on things is, over the last four years,
I am mistrustful of any government.
No government is a friend of the people.
And the only people that won in this election is the state.
The state would have won if it was the Democrat party.
The state would have won if it's the Republican party.
You know, the governments, generally,
are never the friends of the people.
And that is the message that I would say
to everyone listening, keep your wits about you.
By all means, be hopeful.
Absolutely.
Kamala would have been a disaster.
But if we're swimming in a sea of despair
and depression and apathy and helplessness,
you know what, and we're treading water
and barely drowning, you know,
we're just keeping our head above the water.
Being offered, Kamala Harris,
was like being offered a lead balloon.
Only an idiot would have taken that.
Trump, he's like a bit of driftwood, right?
He's not gonna save us.
I think really what we need to do is swim for the shore,
which is only 20 meters away, and save ourselves.
I mean, the other option is, you know,
Kamala was a vegan burger, Trump is a Big Mac,
and I just want a steak.
Grass-fed, regenerative farmed, medium rare.
And if you think, you know, I'm laughing about McDonald's,
there's a picture of him on a plane right now,
with his son, with RFK Junior and Elon Musk,
tucking into Big Macs.
You know, how is that making America healthy again?
And RFK Junior has talked about checking
about the vaccines are safe.
I'm in, I, having looked into it,
there is no safe vaccine.
There's no such thing as a safe vaccine.
And I don't think we need vaccines, right?
So doing studies and doing things to, you know,
to keep that vaccine industry going,
I think is really concerning and worrying.
I think what needs to be done is the CDC needs
to be broken up.
The FDA actually again, needs to pretty much be demolished.
You need to just look at the inception of the FDA
and look at how money, fraud, corruption,
prices, the price of healthcare,
and the health epidemic has risen in America.
You can chart the graph.
When the FDA came into power and, you know,
started doing the thing, everything went pear shape, right?
So these agencies, these three letter agencies
are not serving the interests of the people.
It's not about downsizing them or reforming them.
They are broken.
And you know, what you need,
the answer is the smallest government possible,
the smallest.
You need localism, you need decentralization.
That's the solution.
Not a token, oh, Elon Musk came in and through Dodge,
you know, sacked 5% or 10%.
How about 95%?
That's what it needs to be.
And that's what people need to understand, I believe,
that you know what, get away from the idea
that the government is your friend,
that it's your paternal figure out there to look after you.
Government has become a religion taught in schools
by the priests that are the teachers
and indoctrinated into everyone
so that it can never be challenged or questioned.
Anyway, so that's where I'm coming at.
Now, with regards to the cultural revolution, Steven,
that we were talking about,
if you look at the cultural revolution,
it was just a series of madness,
madness, one madness after another, you know,
all driven by a man at the cult of the man
and, you know, Chairman Mao.
No one can question him.
Everyone adored him at the beginning.
Anyone who criticized him was basically eliminated.
And policies were instituted
from a centralized top-down thing
that just didn't make sense.
Like kill all the sparrows and birds.
You know, everyone had to kill the sparrows.
You know, you had to kill the sparrows.
So what happened when you killed all the sparrows?
The insects, no one ate the insects.
So what happened then?
The insects ate half the harvest.
So everybody, you know, went into famine.
I mean, it was just ludicrous.
What happened?
You kill all the landowners,
and now you've got bureaucrats and politicians,
political appointments telling the farmers how to farm.
And they didn't know anything about farming.
And basically they screwed it up.
And again, you had more famine and more hunger.
And then you had weird pronouncements
of what a great job we've done and look how amazing it is.
And we're producing so much wheat,
which was all based on lies.
Everybody went along.
It was the emperor wears no clothes.
And no one was the child to speak up and say,
this is all bullshit and it's not happening.
Everyone went along because no one wanted to get into trouble.
No one wants to be the kid to say,
this isn't making sense.
Because if you did, there's a good chance
you're going to lose your head.
Correct.
So the world descended into madness.
Everybody went along, even the serfs and the peasants.
They all started making steel in their villages,
which was of no good to anyone.
It was useless steel that could never be used,
but it doesn't matter.
You know what?
Because Chairman Mao could say,
we are producing so many millions of tons of steel.
It doesn't matter if it's useless steel.
We made the steel.
It doesn't matter if we made an experimental bio weapon,
disease maiming, herbal cancer causing fracking bullshit jab.
You know what?
We made billions of them in record time.
Aren't we amazing?
We did it in warp speed.
The madness of the cultural revolution was just insane.
You got rid of all the people
who could actually do anything
and you replaced it with blind ideology.
And what the cultural revolution showed is
not only was the top tier deluded and insane,
the masses all went along.
Either knowingly, knowing that it was madness,
but in many cases, they actually genuinely believed
what their leader told them and they went along with it.
And even if it meant going hungry
or killing your teacher or your lecturer or your neighbor
or dobing in on your family member, they did it.
Like one of the marks dealers said,
they're all cult members.
I mean, and that's the thing.
I keep talking about it.
In this day and age, we're in the age of cults
and false idols and Messiah figures.
And as long as people are constantly looking
for other people to save them,
then you're gonna be falling into that trap.
My one message today, tonight, would be,
for God's sake, stop looking for someone to save you,
to be your hero, to get us out of this mess.
You know, I hate that apathy.
Oh, well, if it's not gonna be Trump, then who?
What, would you vote for Kamala?
Don't give me that crap.
You sound like someone who's had a ninth booster.
Oh, so you don't wanna take the jab?
So you wanna wear a mask forever?
It's just a stupid argument.
No, I don't want Kamala.
I don't want Kamala.
But no, I don't want Trump either.
I want a true patriot.
I want someone who genuinely cares about their people,
who hasn't made mistakes in the past,
who we aren't gonna make excuses for.
You know, this is what we need, but we don't have any.
So if we don't have any, we need to step up.
Every single one of us needs to step up
and be our own leaders and hold these politicians to account.
So, you know, that's where I wanna finish up, by the way,
Stephen, so if you wanna ask me any questions
or discuss like how we chat on the phone, I'm happy to.
Yeah, we've got plenty of questions.
Plenty of questions.
Okay, Stephen.
So, John, before we forget,
so I just wanna ask one question.
So I think that what made me think
about the Cultural Revolution in China
was that actually two years ago,
I was starting to home in on China, you know,
and then looked at the history
that you've got the great March of Mao.
Lots of people died and were killed in that.
And then you had the great leap forward
and then you had the great Cultural Revolution
from 1966 to 1976.
And as far as I can understand,
we're not Chinese citizens,
so we don't really understand.
I've never been to China,
but it seems to me that the great Cultural Revolution
was necessary in Mao Tse-tung's eyes
to kind of make sure that China
went along the communism route.
And so, but the thing was that the parallels, I think,
are that nothing makes sense these days in the UK,
in the US.
And I think that's the point.
I think that they are manipulating things
so that nothing makes sense.
So if you remember, we had all kinds of threats we had,
and then we had the energy price rise, you know,
and it was allegedly Russia's, you know,
the Russia war with Ukraine
that was causing the energy price rise in the UK.
And I just did a simple Google search
and established that only 2% of Britain's energy
came from Russia.
So that's a bit weird that we had to,
price rises like three times, as I remember,
and then all of a sudden they've come down
and nobody knows why they went up
and why they've come down.
Exactly.
They haven't come.
So the whole thing, in my opinion,
there is someone who has realized
that the best way to torture human beings
is to create, to destabilize them
by constantly bombarding them with stuff
from many different angles,
which doesn't make sense.
Yeah, well, can I interject for a second?
So, you know, I've actually spoken to someone from China
and he goes, actually, it's really hilarious
because you make China out to be this boogeyman
and actually the West and Britain
is far worse than China is.
So I would love to go to China
and see for myself what it's like,
but apparently, you know, who are we to call
the kettle black, you know,
this pot is pretty black itself.
You know, we just wanna pretend
that it's all the boogeymen out there,
Russia and China.
Yeah, but if you...
So I was persuaded by exactly that argument,
people who actually had lived in China,
which more than I've done,
and who had done business there,
that they said, oh, China's not all that bad,
including, you know, good friends of mine
and people I respect.
So I couldn't find anyone who was prepared
to criticize China, which was...
Yeah, but you know, I would say China is communism
in name only, there is crony capitalism,
there is this, you know, fascist kind of like overlay
to it all, you've got the industrialists
and the companies working with the politicians
and they're in bed with each other, okay?
And so this is what we've actually got.
We've got this, like one of your previous guests said,
we've got this techno-communist-fascist-hybrid blob
out there, you know, who was it?
Jeff Richard, what was his name?
Richard, Jeff, or I can't remember.
Oh, Richard Jeff, yeah.
Yeah, so, you know, that is what we're dealing with.
And the reality is it comes in all shapes and sizes.
And I don't think, you know,
the one world government is going to be coming into place.
I think we already live under a one world government
and it's just not transparent
and it's not been officially declared.
But in, you know, in all intents and purposes,
that's what we have now, okay?
And you talk about the confusion, yes,
because we live in an age of inversions.
So, you know, I'm going to talk about the age of inversion
and it's deliberate, everything is flipped upside down.
Why do we all feel confused?
Why do we all feel disorientated?
Why do we feel like the upside is down and the down is up?
Yeah, but the problem is, Ahmed,
so it seems to me that nobody wants communism
because communism seems to be anti-human to me.
It's kind of at a basic level, you know?
So, you know, why would you want to be-
But we're not being sold communism old version 1.0.
We're being offered something like,
which is communism 2.0, which is an upgraded version.
But it's not labeled as communism, for God's sake.
There's much better branding and marketing.
This time it's for our own good, you know?
This time it's to make our lives more comfortable,
to take the pain out of decision-making and responsibility.
So anyway, I mean, and let me just talk
about the inversions, right?
Like medicine isn't about healing anymore.
It's about sickness, okay?
You know, a patient cured is a customer lost.
It's all about managing diseases for pure naked profit.
Look at the justice system.
It's not about, you know, protecting the innocent.
The system is now shielding-
Oh, you're muted, damn it.
Someone muted me.
So I was saying-
But someone muted me before.
I thought you could hear me, but you couldn't.
So anyway-
No, it wasn't me.
Someone else did it.
So I was saying the justice system
doesn't protect the innocent, okay?
It shields the guilty and punishes the whistleblowers
for doing the right thing.
Politicians don't represent the public.
They serve the interests of corporations
and powerful lobbies, okay?
They're selected, they're not elected.
What about regulatory bodies?
They don't protect the public interest.
They protect the corporate interest.
They're enablers.
They're not safeguarding us.
They do the bidding of the industries
that they're meant to regulate.
And what about the police?
They don't protect us from criminals.
They're entrapped into the innocent, okay?
They're all there at the marches,
videoing us and recording us and, you know, tagging us.
And the news, it doesn't report to the police.
It doesn't report to the police.
And the news, it doesn't report the news.
It propagandizes and brainwashes us, you know?
It manipulates us.
It crafts the narrative
and to control your public perception.
And just when you think, do you know what?
I can't be brainwashed.
I can't be manipulated.
That's when you're at your greatest risk
of being manipulated.
Absolutely.
The biggest war is on our mind.
And I'm gonna come back to that in a second.
Okay, yeah, so.
Just one second.
So education, right, isn't about learning anymore.
It's about indoctrination.
It's spoonfeeding what the government wants you to think.
It's telling you, you know, what to think,
not how to think.
And what about science?
It's not tolerating any questioning anymore.
It's about dogma.
It's not an open field of inquiry anymore.
Hell no.
If you question the official narrative,
you get punished, you get censored, you get canceled,
you know?
And what about our military?
It's not defending our nation anymore.
It's not protecting our borders.
No, it's basically a mercantile force
working on the behalf of the industrial complexes
and waging war abroad to cause mayhem,
to create the refugees, to steal resources,
to install their tin pot dictators
who'll do the bidding of the American empire
and become a vassal state.
Our religious leaders don't worship God.
They worship the holy vaccine.
You know, churches that should be sanctuaries
for the faithful, you know,
now they promote pharmaceutical,
the latest pharmaceutical savior.
Men aren't women, women aren't men.
Didn't you know that?
Come on.
And the gas of life is now a poison.
It's called carbon dioxide, you know?
It's now vilified as a deadly pollutant.
Freedom is control.
Censorship is free speech.
Tolerance is intolerance.
Equality is inequality.
Diversity is uniformity, you know?
You can't have diversity of thought.
You need uniformity superficially.
So uniformity of thought and diversity superficially.
That's what they want.
And war is peace.
The more weapons we give, the more peace we will get.
Don't you understand how it works?
Yeah, but Ahmed, without going into the detail,
the theme here is to put about propaganda and censorship
to convince people that nothing makes sense
to break the human spirit.
Exactly, and I'm gonna come to that, right?
So this is what I wanna say.
There are many wars against humanity.
So many, right?
And this is why I say never ever be a single ticket issue.
Never nail your mast to one cause or one issue or one hero.
There are, look, we are facing a multi-pronged,
multi-directional war against humanity spread across time.
Okay?
We are poisoned in the womb, at birth, throughout our lives
through injections, medications, the food we eat,
the air we breathe and the water we drink
with visible poisons and invisible ones
like EMF as well and other toxins.
But you know what?
The war on the mind is the most dangerous of all.
Absolutely.
All right, by the way, I don't know why.
Everything just turned off.
You can't start your video because the host has stopped it.
So someone stopped my video, by the way, just FYI.
Charles, did you stop my video?
It's disappeared.
I think he's accidentally.
That's strange.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Well, can't you switch it on, Amid?
No, I'm not doing it.
I'm a cohost.
I'm not doing any of this.
All right, it's fine.
It's fine.
If someone muted me, it was either Charles or you, Tom.
And then Amid.
It doesn't matter.
It's certainly not me.
Amid was muted.
No, no, it doesn't matter.
I'm back.
It does matter actually.
We need to know who.
So Amid was muted and he didn't know why either.
So it was either Charles or you, Tom.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Well, don't mute us.
No, I'm not.
Participants is an entirely separate window.
I'm just saying I don't think I did it.
So, okay.
It doesn't matter.
You're the new kid on the block.
So, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Hands off the keyboard.
That's all I'm saying.
It does matter actually.
But anyway, it interferes with the discussion
because I was talking.
I thought you could hear me,
but I was mystified as to why.
Okay, can I just quickly finish on this?
So I want to talk about why the war on the mind
is the most dangerous of all.
And I'm telling you right now,
I'm being subjected to it.
I am somehow, I'm sure even right now,
without knowing it, a victim of this war on our minds.
Every single one of us is.
And the moment we think we are immune to this war
on our minds, that's it.
We're gone.
We need to be always thinking, how have they got us?
How have I been manipulated?
How have I been tricked into thinking like this?
Okay.
And yes, it can be a bit scary
and you can start second guessing everything,
but just be wary that this attack is nonstop incessant.
And why?
Because through the indoctrination,
through the intense bombardment of propaganda,
through the behavioral manipulation,
and most importantly, through the use of fear.
Oh God, if Kamala comes into power,
things are going to get bad.
It's fear.
Our capacity to think critically and appraise
what is happening around us is completely disabled.
When you're in a fearful state,
you are putty in their hands to be shaped as they want.
So we then get programmed to accept their poisons as cures.
We accept our slavery as a gift.
We get down on our knees and say, thank you.
Thank you for this.
We welcome our tormentors as heroes.
We love our slave masters.
And not only do we become passive and compliant,
we actually end up becoming foot soldiers for the enemy.
That's why the war on the mind
is the most dangerous of them all.
And the enemy has, as we know,
in the last four years, five years,
captured the hearts and minds of our families
and our friends and our coworkers.
There's a reason why it feels like we're living
in a world of body snatchers,
where the Borg has assimilated people,
where Agent Smith could be anywhere around the corner.
It's because the enemy has convinced good people
that they are doing good when in fact they're doing evil.
More to the evil done in this world today
is done by good people thinking that they're doing good.
Most of the evil is not actually done by the evil people.
They're sitting back, feet up on the desk,
smoking a cigar and laughing as they've manipulated,
cajoled, divided us, made us fight amongst each other.
Blame it on the Muslims, blame it on the Jews.
It's the goddamn Democrats, it's the goddamn...
Guess what, folks?
Spoiler alert, it's none of that above.
We're all victims.
We're all victims to those who are pulling the string.
It's none of those that I've just mentioned.
All right, so just like the pandemic demonstrated
that the enemy could weaponize people's good nature
and desire to do good against themselves
and their loved ones,
people took the shot to save the NHS
and stop a deadly virus.
People desire to save the planet means that, you know what?
They buy into the climate hoax,
they pay the extra carbon tax,
they put the solar panels on their roof,
they buy the electric vehicle cars, all that crap.
They'll accept the 15-minute cities, you know?
And because of their tolerance and charity,
they accept the migrants.
They'll get the Ukraine person
to live in their house with them.
This is what happens.
And why would they not weaponize also our disgust
with what's happened in the last four years
and provide us a savior, provide us a solution,
a ready-made package solution
that we can all jump on top of?
Be wary, folks.
Just have some discernment is what I would say.
Because...
Yes.
Fool on me.
So shame on you first time, shame on me second time.
I don't want a shame on me second time, okay?
Because evil, this is how evil works, man.
It's through inversions, tricks, the mockery of the truth
and getting us to comply and consent.
I mean, I'm sure I read somewhere these satanic people,
they actually put out their plans
and they want us to consent.
They want us to say, yes, we accept this.
So just be careful what it is that they offer to us.
Yeah, so in many instances, people have been convinced
that they don't wanna live anymore
because they're living in a state of Stockholm syndrome.
That's what I see.
Yeah.
I really think, put another way of putting what you've said,
we need to listen to our instincts,
not be relying on everybody else for our opinions.
We need to listen to what we feel.
What do I feel about this?
Is this right or is it wrong?
It's just a simple thing quite often.
And most people haven't answered to that question,
but they don't listen to their own instincts.
They go to join a group and groups are very dangerous
in the present circumstances.
Well, always actually, I think.
So...
Absolutely.
Mahamad Ali said, most people see safety
when they see a group, most people see safety.
He said, when I see a group, I see danger.
I think he was quoting someone else,
but that's a brilliant quote.
That's a brilliant quote.
And what I would say is,
if you ever feel yourself getting into a state of fear,
resist the fear.
Get out of the state of being fearful.
Well, actually...
Whenever you feel yourself getting angry,
especially angry at a group of people,
resist the urge to fall into anger.
Yeah.
Well, I would say also, get out of the cults
because you're likely in a cult.
Yes.
But the problem is, and I know this, having been in a cult,
that most cult members do not know that they are in a cult.
Correct.
But that's how human beings operate.
Yeah.
Within cults.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So anyone who is telling you, I'm going to save you,
I've got all the solutions, I'm going to fix the problem,
not you, that I'm not going to empower you,
that I'm not going to raise you up,
that I'm not going to make you a leader,
I would say, I'm not going to listen to them.
I don't want to follow them.
I don't want to follow anyone.
You know, it always comes back to look in the mirror
and there is your leader.
Correct.
Too many people are fearful of being their own leader.
Exactly.
Don't love themselves, don't trust themselves,
are too lazy, and then therefore abdicate that responsibility
to their chosen cult figure.
And Amit, I think that if people, you know,
all human beings are capable of asking themselves the question,
you know, is this right or is it wrong?
And they have a feeling as to what the answer to that is,
and they need to have the, you know,
learn to respect their instincts.
It's extremely important.
Yeah, yeah.
So to wrap up, to wrap up on the Trump thing,
what I would say is, look, back in 2016,
I was a member of the Brexit party,
and I was full on maga-maga, like you have no idea.
And even to this day, I actually love Trump
because he is one funny fucker.
I mean, he is actually hilarious, right?
I would love to have him at the dinner table.
Yes, exactly.
With his tiny hands, you know, and I wouldn't give him a burger.
I would give him some proper meat, steak.
You know, I'd fire up the barbecue, the Kamado Joe.
You know, I'd make sure he's happy,
and I would tell him how wonderful he is
and how great his hair is, you know,
because I know he likes that kind of stuff.
But, you know, Trump is funny. I like him.
I actually genuinely like him.
Yeah.
Would I want to invite Kamala to dinner?
Do I want to vomit? Of course not.
Of course not.
No, I don't want to vomit over my steak.
No, I would always invite Trump.
And I know I would have a laugh and a giggle.
Absolutely.
I might even fucking drink a beer with him,
even though I've never drunk beer in my life, right?
That's how much I think I like him, right?
But do I trust him?
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha.
It's like saying, do I trust the girl
that I asked out on a date who stood me up?
No, not until she turns up and gets into bed with me.
No, I'm just joking.
No, I mean, basically, you know, no, you know,
she let me down first time around.
She stood me up, right?
Do I still want to go out with her?
Yeah, she's hot.
Trump's funny.
Trump says all the right things.
He's part of the cool gang.
Yeah, of course I want him to be the good guy.
So I'm going to want that.
I want him to be a good guy.
I want him to lock up the evil people.
You know, of course I'll be rooting for him,
but I'm going to be watching him.
And I am not going to take my eye off the ball.
Absolutely.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Okay, so Stephen, that's 20 minutes.
What?
20 minutes you've been, you're questioning.
Oh, sorry.
I didn't even know I was questioning, but I go.
Okay, Charles, you go ahead.
So I have some very good.
Thank you.
Brilliant, brilliant presentation.
Thank you.
Agree, agree, agree.
So Anders, we've got hands up and we've got 55 minutes to go.
So excellent, got time. Anders.
And I'm trying to get on.
Let me see.
Yeah, we can hear you, Anders.
Yeah, very good.
So, you know, I am not against what you said, Ahmad.
I hear a but coming.
No, no, no, no.
I would try to say nothing like that.
You know, I would say.
You have your opinions and I think that's great.
And I don't want to go into that.
I would just want to say that there are other opinions about Trump.
And you may not want to see that because you are looking it into one story.
I am not quite sure how I will say this, but.
Are you aware that you are biased?
Yeah, so I said right at the beginning, there's option A, option B.
And actually, there might even be an option C that I don't know about.
And everyone, everyone, you are aware that you have a bias.
You're biased to this.
OK, everyone is a bias.
Yes.
Me too.
Everyone.
But you know, we have to be aware of that.
Me too.
Everyone.
But you know, you started initially to say a story where your bias was maybe not so strong.
I would say your bias was increasing during your presentation.
Would you agree on that?
Yeah, I think so.
So I'm not saying that I'm not unbiased, but you know, but to have a presentation, you know,
you have a story to tell, you know, and OK, this is the world.
But you have basically, I would say, a negative story to tell.
You don't like Trump, do you?
I just told you I'd invite him to the barbecue.
I think he's great.
He's funny.
I like a lot of what he says.
No, no, no.
You know, this is, do you like him?
Do you really like him or not?
I don't know how to answer that question.
If he could trust him, yes, Anders.
If I could trust him, yes.
I like him, but I don't trust him.
There's the answer.
I like him.
I don't trust him.
You know, I don't want to go really down this road, but you know, but you have started.
There's no point saying you don't want to go down this road because you are.
You are going down this road.
You might as well just be confident.
I'm going down this road.
Take it.
Yes.
Say it.
I would.
I might want to go down this road.
I would tell you, you know, you have projected a negative opinion based on many aspects, and I don't want to tell you you're a bad person, but you know, we are seeing you at you.
You don't like you don't like from.
Okay, and just listen, listen, listen.
Tell me what it is that I said about Trump that was factually incorrect and not right.
It is your opinion.
Your opinion is negative.
You have a negative opinion.
No, I don't think you understand.
I don't understand.
So I recognize Ahmed talking in a British kind of way with irony and sarcasm, and you're from Norway and maybe you don't quite get that.
So I think what I've got it all.
You know, you know, I can tell you, Stephen, I fully understood what I was told.
It's just that I feel there is a very negative attitude.
That's amazing.
So listen, I'm not interested in your views.
Come on, just ask a question.
We don't know.
We don't need opinions around whether I'm positive.
Just ask a question.
And I'm really sorry that you didn't like what I said.
But you know what?
I'm not saying I didn't like what you're saying.
I'm just saying that I can read between the lines of your opinion.
Ask the question.
Can I just say something?
That's fantastic.
You're really skillful for reading between the lines.
And I think that's great for you.
Good for you.
That's great.
By the way, sorry, Charles, can I ask you a favor?
Is there a way of sharing a screen?
I just want to share something.
Yeah, you can share your screen.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to asking the question, Charles.
OK, well, ask the question.
Sorry, can I share the screen now?
Yes, you can.
So, so I'm Ed, I'm odd.
Yes, I have this question to you.
Yes.
What is the basis of your hatred to Trump?
Oh, geez, that's a bit heavy, man.
Listen, I don't hate Trump, right?
So this is what I mean.
I think you can just stop for a second.
I think you have your own biases.
I think you've read between the lines.
You think I'm here.
I hate Trump.
Maybe then I could turn around and say you belong to the Trump or the cult of Trump.
Right.
Because I criticize your Trump leader.
Maybe I don't.
Now you've been triggered.
Now you've been triggered because I criticize Trump and now you're getting really upset.
Listen, I never said I hate him.
I do not hate him.
I made it very clear.
I like him.
I want to trust him.
I just don't trust him now.
Yeah, there's not a difference.
Right.
Anyway, listen, moving on.
I just want to show you something very important.
Give me your best.
So this is what I mean by we need to be careful.
All right, folks.
So in 2021, to be clear, I don't hate Trump.
I don't hate him.
So in 2021, to be clear, I do support vaccines in general.
Recently again on Joe Rogan's show, just this last month, he said the same thing.
In general, COVID vaccines specifically, the science is unequivocal.
Remember, this is meant to be one of the smartest people in the world.
Such a smart guy.
And there we were.
Amit, are you just being facetious there?
I'm being facetious.
I'm being sarcastic.
OK.
So what I'm trying to say is these people are not meant to be making mistakes.
And if you look, Tesla teams up with CureVac to make RNA micro-factories.
I know Jane Ruby.
I know her.
Right.
This is fake.
Listen, listen.
Don't go after the name.
Right?
I know Jane Ruby.
All right.
Let's look at this.
I mean, what are they doing eating McDonald's?
Guys, this is not how you make America healthy again.
Well, yeah, they want to be seen as the lads, don't they?
You know, we're one of you kind of thing.
I know.
But they're not one of us, guys.
They're in a private plane.
Come on.
They're not one of us.
Right.
This is what I mean.
People need to stop falling for this.
This idea that they're one of us and we're one of them.
I mean, seriously, Anders, have you got billions of pounds in your bank account?
Have you?
You got private jet?
You ever gone to Epstein Island?
You know, maybe.
Well, maybe you have.
I don't know.
But I mean, like, you know, they're not one of us.
Right.
They're not one of us.
Now, I don't hate him.
I do not hate Trump.
I'd say it again.
I like him.
I think he's hilarious.
Just don't trust him.
But I want to trust him.
But I don't.
Good.
Pretty much like every politician.
That's very clear.
Let's move on.
Yeah.
Kathleen.
So, Charles, in my opinion, I made trying to get people to think for themselves by employing irony and sarcasm about something.
And remember, every one of us is a weirdo.
Whatever I said, each one of us interprets differently.
So you're entitled to interpret it however you want.
And I don't have to justify what he says.
If he wants to question, he does.
He doesn't want to answer a question.
He doesn't have to.
Yeah, I justify my position.
Look, just look at my name.
A-H-A-MAD.
M-A-D.
Right?
It's in the name.
The clue's in the name.
Right?
Just accept it.
This is what you're going to get with me.
Yep.
Correct.
Kathleen.
Hi.
Hi, Ahmad.
Hello.
First of all, I want to let you know that my husband and I have been listening to your
podcast every week and we are paid subscribers to your podcast.
And Ahmad, dental hygienist.
He's a dentist and we're always in the car and we're always listening.
And I absolutely love your view on things.
And even today, I feel that you hit the nail on the head with Trump.
I actually do like Trump.
I think he's really funny.
He is not going to be our savior.
I'm sorry.
You know, and there's only one savior and we all know that is God.
So, you're totally right.
We have to get up every day and we cannot relax in these next, probably next seven years.
We can't relax.
We have to continue our battles.
And so, anyway, I just want to let you know that the question I have,
actually, is there is somebody in the UK and this has to do with whether you have ever
interviewed this person or if you are going to interview this person.
And I think you would like what he says.
Have you ever heard of a Dr. David Hughes?
Yes.
And have you interviewed him?
This is a sad story.
Oh, this is a sad story.
Well, first of all, thank you so much for your comments.
And I'm surprised to hear that you're supporting me.
This is lovely.
You're one of a very special few.
So, thank you so much for that.
I really appreciate that.
So, David Hughes is a sad story.
So, I heard about David Hughes and the fact that he was being made redundant by his university.
So, I reached out to him earlier on this year and I said,
I'm really sorry what's happened to you.
I've been in your shoes.
I want to highlight your plight and talk about your book and get you as much coverage as possible.
And he said, thank you so much.
I'm really worried about I don't know what I'm going to do, blah, blah, blah.
And we spent half an hour.
I remember waiting outside my school to pick up my kids and half an hour I sat on a bench.
It was sunny.
It was in the summer.
And I gave him advice.
I told him how to set up a sub stack.
I told him how to monetize it.
I told him, forget your second book.
You know, put it on on sub stack.
Serialize it.
Because he was complaining how he was making no money from his first book.
He spent so much time making it.
I said, I'll get you on my podcast next week.
Even though I've got a three month wait, I'm going to get you on.
I'm going to introduce you to other people like Herroy Morridge, geopolitics and empire.
I'll speak to James Dellingpole, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it's all great.
And then over the weekend, I got an email from him saying, I've changed my mind.
I'm not coming on your podcast.
Never, ever get in touch with me ever again.
Oh, no.
Oh, yes.
And every week, I have no idea.
I even wrote back saying, wow, I would have thought that you of all people would have explained yourself or if you have heard something about me, would have given me an opportunity to, you know, say whatever, respond.
I mean, I just just can you even tell me why you can't know.
So I don't know.
And it's really sad because the truth is probably once a week, sometimes twice a week, a listener will email me and say, oh, Doc Malik, there's this amazing guy called David Hughes.
And he's got a great sub stack and he's given this interview and you should get him on your show and blah, blah, blah.
And every single time I sigh and I go, what little you know, even before he was on the circuit, I was giving him advice.
I was going to get on my show.
I helped him get his first gig, the one that geopolitics and empire.
And he doesn't, you know, he's yeah, doesn't want to talk to me.
So go figure, go figure.
This is the world.
And and this is one of many such stories that one day I'll write and release when I'm dead, because in the last year and a half, I have experienced the strangest shit you could ever fucking imagine.
I swear to God, I was a very happy orthopedic surgeon.
I was at the peak of my career.
I didn't need money.
I didn't need fame.
I needed fame like a hole in the head.
I just I was under the radar and I had a good life.
I did not ask this.
You know, I I love my neon sign.
As you can tell, I keep showing you.
I love my neon sign, but I didn't want this.
I did not want this.
Right.
But the last year, the strangest shit has happened.
You know, I'm in the trench and I'm thinking that's the enemy there.
Right.
Right in front of me.
But the people around me, I've realized, aren't necessarily.
And it for the right reason.
Some people are there for ego.
Some there are for self promotion.
Some people are there for money.
Some people are there.
But God knows what some people might be chaos agents.
Some people might be controlled opposition.
Some people might just be narcissists and psychopaths.
I don't know.
One thing I realized is just because there's people on this side speaking out against the other side, don't automatically assume they're one of us.
It's like, nah, nah, it's weird.
Anyway, that's a sad story about that.
Let's move on.
So, Kathleen Brown, I can't remember which province you are in in Australia.
So in Canada, I'm in Nova Scotia.
Yes, you did a lot of work on newspaper cuttings.
Is that correct about deaths?
Yes.
Early on in the pandemic, in 2021 to 2022, I was keeping track of all the sudden, untimely, unexpected and after a brief illness deaths in Nova Scotia.
I was going to all the funeral homes and keeping track of it.
And I use this as evidence to the chief coroner and all that kind of stuff.
But anyway, I still feel that I have evidence that maybe somewhere down the road that someone gets brought to a court that it may be used.
And so I actually there was only 72 people who died of COVID in Nova Scotia for one year.
And in the year from May 11th, from 2021 to May 11 to 2022, I actually tracked 330 people who died suddenly, unexpectedly, untimely.
And the average age was 49.
I would not put anybody above the age 65 in my list.
It was always 64 and below.
And anyway, the reason why I started this sort of thing was because I had a mother in a nursing home and my family, which I have a very large family, and I was the POA to my mother.
And my mother at the time was 91.
And so anyway, they all wanted not all of them.
Half of my family, which is there's 12 of us in the family.
Half of them wanted to jab her and the other half didn't.
And I actually reached out to Dr. Pena McCullough in February of 2021.
And he responded to me personally.
And he put me on this C-19 list.
And this is how I got to be part of this C-19 and then Stephen Frost's thing here.
So my mother actually, she lived in this nursing home and she only passed away in 2023.
And when she passed away, she basically passed away after she decided that she wasn't going to eat or drink.
And the doctor who've never seen her for two years, and he actually had non Hodgkin's lymphoma and told me afterwards, put it on her death certificate that she died of COVID.
And she didn't die of COVID, you know.
And so I still have half of my family thinks that I'm the bad person because I wouldn't let them inject her.
And in her home, I feel that there was 100% of the residents died from 2021 to 2022.
There was complete 100% turnover.
And my mom was probably the only person who didn't get injected.
And so because she didn't get injected, she lived for another two and a half years, you know, almost three years.
And she was almost 94.
And she was a person, obviously a very Catholic person who lived her life serving God.
That's what she said. I'm serving God.
And, you know, she had actually 14 pregnancies, but 12 live births.
And all 12 of us are still alive.
And so that was her job.
I asked her that when I was like 13, why did you have so many children?
And she goes, I'm doing God's work.
And she was a person who basically told us when I in the 70s, don't watch TV.
It's only there to brainwash you.
I love it.
Nothing. Yeah.
Nothing but Satan's work.
And so she's yeah, I was gonna say, can you please come on my support to stories and talk about, you know, you collecting those newspaper clips?
I'm being serious.
You know, I, you know, I do that support.
So reach out to me afterwards.
You know, my email address, get in touch with me because I'd love to have you on board.
And about having the babies, I want to quickly say something.
I keep telling people everywhere I go, if you want to fight the evil, one of the best things you can do is make as many freedom loving babies as possible.
And the great news is it involves having lots of sex.
So just have lots of babies and fight back because, look, they're not having babies.
They're not making babies.
You know, they're trans or they're woke or they think that overpopulation is killing the planet.
You know, so they don't they don't even want to have babies.
So guess what?
Make as many babies as possible.
Educate them, teach them.
And you know what?
The world will be theirs.
It's just a time game.
Think multi-generational.
Think long time frame.
And you know what?
One of the best things I had this guest that I wanted to get on my podcast, he canceled two months ago.
He had to rearrange because of child care.
I rang him and booked a date for next year.
He said, guess what, doc?
After our last conversation where he said, have lots of babies.
My wife is pregnant.
I played the video to her and she's pregnant now.
So thank you.
It's a freedom loving baby courtesy of Doc Malek.
So I was so happy.
Yeah.
And that's exactly right.
And actually, my mother, who basically the day that she just basically decided not to eat or drink, she actually on like kind of like Facebook Messenger, she she actually got to see my my son and his son through, you know, Facebook Messenger.
And it was like a light went off and she kept on saying, who is that?
And I said, that's your grandson and your great grandson.
And it was like a light went off and the light was off.
My work is done.
So she passed away with 12 of her own children, 22 grandchildren and 11 great grandchildren.
And that's what she left with.
And she was her work was done.
So, yes, I totally believe that.
Yeah.
Satan doesn't like people having children.
And that's how you fight it.
That is how you fight against Satan.
And I'm beginning to think as well, Kathleen and Amit, that the way to really fight these people is to go to church in large numbers.
They really hate that.
Yeah.
And and you're always talking about God and really, really deserve to be called a saint.
I really, really dislike that.
I you'll know, you know, Kathleen, I did a sub stack on this, that the war is against God, country and family.
And that's what it's all about.
You know, it's God, family and country.
And then all these internal like, oh, it's them.
It's the Muslims.
It's the Jews.
It's the Christians.
It's the blacks.
It's the whites.
No, it's not.
It's none of them.
You know, everyone is the war is against God, family and country.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
All right.
I'll defend all those.
Can I just so Kathleen's work was very important.
Can you just very quickly in one sentence, Kathleen, explain why it was that you started to collect the newspaper clippings?
I seem to remember that you didn't trust the official statistics and you proved actually that the official statistics, the official figures were fraudulent, at least in Canada.
Is that correct?
Or in Nova Scotia?
Yeah.
And I just wanted and I mean, it all stemmed from basically that I actually had to prove that these injections were going to basically kill many, many people.
And with my family wanting to inject my mother and I just said, no, she's not going to be injected because you're not taking her soul.
And she her whole life would not get flu shots.
I mean, even the last little bit in the home, they tried to give her, you know, her blood pressure medication, the she just spit it out.
She literally spit it out.
And then she also they put it in a jam.
She wouldn't eat the food like all the children.
The children were divided.
You there were 12 children and you were divided over.
But you had power of attorney.
Wasn't that right?
That's right.
I had the power of attorney and and and it was only until like she was in the home for nine years.
She was the longest living resident in that home ever, I think.
And then she went seven years without any flu shot.
Every time they call me and ask me to give her the flu shot, I said no.
Kathy, why do you think you were chosen to have power of attorney out of 12 children?
Well, I actually do think God picked me.
I do.
And and I've I've always been what they call the anchor to the family.
I would everyone always came to me and and I was the anchor to the family.
And I mean, I even have family members who basically read the Bible for two hours in the morning and whatever and goes to church all the time.
And yet they can't wait to get their next injection.
They can't wait.
We've got to we've got to keep moving.
Thank you.
But good job.
I should be able to get your email there, Ahmad.
But anyway, just send it.
Just send it.
I'll find it.
Don't worry.
Maybe you can think about whether you want to insert that into your introduction.
God, family and country.
I think it's really important.
Yes.
Thanks, Kathleen.
Al Bayer.
Thank you.
Bye.
Hi, Doc.
Malik.
How are you doing, my man?
I'm good.
Hello, Albert.
Yes.
There's a where dot com.
Thank you for reaching out to me previously for wanting to chit chat about bears and data
and stuff.
And I hope to have the opportunity to get in front of your camera and discuss some some
bears aware.
Some bears data.
It's going to happen.
God bless you, Dr. Malik.
I appreciate you.
I appreciate your mojo.
You know, we don't agree on everything, but I appreciate I appreciate you.
You got balls.
I like that.
And you speak your mind.
And, you know, that's the most I can ask for.
Albert, don't don't worry about disagreeing with me.
I disagree with myself from last week.
So how the hell can I expect you to agree with me?
Right.
It's impossible.
Very weird.
You know, I know this fight against the cabal is kind of like a kind of like a all star
game in the sense where we're all we are all on different teams playing throughout the
season.
But then we get together for this this all star game where we take off our individual
uniform, put on an all star uniform and fight against the cabal, win, beat the cabal, and
then we can go back to our regular regular uniforms, you know, after the all star game.
So I appreciate that.
I just, you know, wanted to bring up, you know, my two litmus tests.
And I think you I think you will say yes to my first one.
As far as do you think that this is a a bio weapon, a COVID-19 shot, or was it just hubris
and bad manufacturing?
I actually don't know the answer.
But OK, I just don't know.
But my gut wants to go down the route of what Sasha Latopova talks about that it is a bio
weapon.
They've designed it.
They're not idiots.
They're quite smart.
No worries.
Do you, you know, you don't have to answer, but do you profess Jesus as your Lord and
Savior?
You know what?
I just believe in God.
I have given up on organized religion.
I value a lot of what the religions and the message is.
You know, I follow a lot of Christ teachings.
I've just got my own copy of the Bible, and I think there's a lot of wisdom in it.
But I think I think religion is being co-opted and captured by man.
Religion is now about guilt, shame and control of the masses.
And you just need to look at the priesthood class.
And I think if Jesus was real and I think he was, was he the kind of person who was a
dissident in the heretic and said you don't need the priestly class or was he the one
that was defending the priestly class?
And it also comes down to, you know, when God came down to man, you know, what did he
say?
Did he say here is a whole ton of books that I want your best scholars to pour through
and figure out and decipher and then educate the masses?
Or did he simply say, don't be a dick?
And I think, you know what?
More likely the latter.
OK, so that's the question.
OK, so that's my step.
But, you know, we are in a spiritual war and I think true faith, true faith and people
of God are the best tools and weapons against what we're seeing.
So I don't want no faith.
I don't want people to not believe in God.
I just I've turned away from Islam.
I have issues with Islam.
I have issues with a lot of what is written in many of the major religions.
So I just keep it simple.
I take the wisdom that each religion comes with.
I recognize there are great people in those religions, but I have a direct conduit with
God, who I pray to every day and I ask him to guide me.
And what is his name?
I have no idea.
I just call him God.
God bless you, Ahmad.
Thank you for your genuine answer.
My last question quickly.
And this has to.
Are you familiar with the batch dependent hot lot placebo lot study from Denmark?
Yes, I had I had Vibikki on my podcast.
She was great.
It was amazing.
Right. Because she was here in the audience and then she disappeared as soon as I put
my hand up.
But I just want to, you know, get a chance to also discuss with you on your channel about
that in addition to that, because that ties into bears.
But, you know, I asked her for the raw data and she basically refused.
I asked her a few times in a few different ways.
And then I and then I sent an email to all three authors asking, you know, to, you know,
if they could share the raw data.
And I did that only because I heard her on Dr.
McCullough's podcast saying how basically she wanted, you know, she wanted to share
the data with anybody, you know, something like that.
Anybody who's interested.
Her premise was that I was not a scientist.
And, you know, I wrote a sub stack about that, put her email on there.
And I just I thought, man, that is so disingenuous.
And it's actually kind of like like an insult to me.
But OK, so so Albert, I think the question is actually directed at her.
But what I will do is I will message her and say, hey, what the hell are you doing?
Just give him the data.
Yeah.
It's just that, you know, I've been calling out, you know, any she to me and my and it's just my opinion.
She's making every scientist and every doctor, every good doctor and good scientist look at.
So, you know, I posted while you were talking, I'm sure you didn't see it, but I posted in the car.
But she was posted and Albert will raise it.
So that's right.
What she thinks of you is none of your business.
What I'm at what anyone thinks of anybody is none of your business.
Let it go. OK, on we go.
We're tied for time. Thank you, Albert. Great work you're doing.
Thank you.
Yeah, Mark's here.
OK, yeah.
I'm it's.
That was fantastic.
That's one of the best.
So I'm sure Stephen and agree that was absolutely fantastic.
Well done.
Just a bit of caution about your monochromatic right there.
Is it an LED?
The fluorescent light is it is it LEDs?
No, it's a neon light.
It's a neon light.
Oh, that's not too bad.
I'm just worried about you.
I know I've got my blue blockers.
And I try not to do any podcasts in the evening.
This is very rare.
I mean, normally it's during the daytime and I've got windows and the windows are open and everything.
It's very nice.
I mean, it's just on the I'm pretty sure we'll agree eventually.
It was via bio weapon.
You know, mistake about the ingredients in it.
It's hooked up with the 5G wireless poly area network because I plan on being that inside it.
I'm not going to damage that pan and a mass kill.
So I can actually attest to the fact that it is a bio weapon.
It was a weapon developed by the DLD for tracking wet well in the battlefield.
So basically you'll exterminate them if if they lost the war.
You know, you can't say recovering troops on a battlefield is a bit of an issue.
If you've got a way of actually exterminate them on a battlefield, if you don't lose one,
then you don't have to expend people to go and never cover them.
So that's where that's where that technology actually came from.
And that's exactly what's in the cover.
Nightly injects really by way.
And fantastic.
The issue about Trump and others, what I would just like to elucidate here is the fact that this is all scripted.
It's all it'll just play out the way it's going to play out.
That doesn't mean to say that we've got a stand back.
Trump is part of the jigsaw puzzle.
And that jigsaw puzzle is going to pan out as states in Revelation.
And we're going to see these statements down the road of how it came from.
So I'd like to just, you know, put that point and what's your thoughts on that?
On the scripture and revelation?
Yeah, I don't know enough.
I don't know about that.
You know, I just know that there's a lot of biblical things going on.
They want to build a third temple.
A lot of things in Revelation seem to be coming true to life.
But the reality is, is this just a cycle of humanity?
And the people who wrote those scriptures just have seen it all before that there's a cycle of humanity.
And we just keep repeating the shit again and again.
And they're warning us.
They're warning us.
This is what happens because I think man has been on this planet a lot longer than they tell us.
I don't think we just came out the cave 10,000 years ago.
I think this is this has been going on for a very long time and it cycles and people know.
And we're you know, humanity will not transcend until we get out of this loop.
And this loop is because we don't believe in ourselves.
We don't love ourselves.
We don't lead ourselves.
We keep wanting the hero.
We keep wanting to be saved.
We keep hating each other.
Even though we are all alike and we all we're all the same inside.
Trust me as a surgeon for 25 years, every single one of you black, white, yellow, you're all the same inside.
All the same inside.
And, you know, people think that certain groups of people are smarter than others.
Certain groups of people have a monopoly of violence.
Some people have got a monopoly of ingenuity and this and that's not everyone's the same.
Just every everyone's the same.
You know, the Egyptians were black.
You know, they had the greatest civilization for thousands of years.
You know, the Chinese were great.
They had a great civilization for a thousand years.
Then we had, you know, white people now, you know, all the way to China.
Everything comes and goes.
So I think I think all these things that we see in scriptures are words of wisdom, warnings to man of what's already happened.
So maybe it's not prophecy is such as unlike that.
You know, we are now in the midst of a hundred years ago, 200 years ago, things were, you know, just then, you know, this is just the world we live in now.
You know, I'm sure if you ask someone during the Second World War, you know, some Jewish person being rounded up in the ghetto, that was pretty bleak times and times then for them.
You know, there's so many crazy times in humanity.
Yep.
And and one of the great sayings that we learned in these meetings some time ago is that the desire for utopia is insanity.
The desire for utopia and I'm right, you know, we're fighting the fight.
Mark, you're doing a great job fighting the fight.
Many of us here fighting the fight and we'll win this fight.
We will humanity will win and there'll be the next fight.
And that's the way life goes.
And if there is nothing to fight for, then we would be bored shitless and we would create conflict.
So correct.
We've got three more questions over to Stephen.
I'm going to finish it.
The two and a half hour mark.
We're going to get armored to bed because he doesn't do evening podcast last.
Who's in Sweden.
I am.
Thank you very much for your fantastic podcast and interviews.
My favorite was probably Malone versus Sasha.
It was absolutely fantastic.
You had a way of bringing out the key points in a way by asking many questions and pedagogically bring out the points.
There is one person who I think is probably a better thinker than many others.
And that is JJ Cooey.
And I think he has a lot of points that people need to understand.
And I think you would be one of the best to follow him.
I know you have had him on, I think, twice.
But his thinking is developing.
And I think you should be his interpreter and bring out to the best.
OK, stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Lars. Lars. I love you.
I love you. I've got family in Sweden.
My sister lives in Sweden. Very close to me.
Yeah, I love Sweden.
So basically, yeah, remember that book that I told you about?
I'm going to publish when I'm dead.
I can't offend anyone.
JJ is going to have a whole chapter in there.
I've messaged him so many times.
He's a funny guy.
He's fighting his own demons.
He's accused me of so many things.
Then he apologizes to me.
Then he accuses me of things.
Then he apologizes to me.
Then he talks to me.
Then he doesn't talk to me.
He's a funny one.
I think he's a good guy.
I've had him on twice for a reason.
I think he needs to be heard.
I think he's got important things to say.
I think his method of delivery isn't great.
He's got this basement.
You are needed.
He's got this basement gamer weird thing going on,
which is very difficult to translate to the masses.
You know, he talks in a way that can be quite cryptic and it's very confusing.
You need to add a little bit of a sense of humor.
He's got the very thing going on.
He's got a very cryptic and it's very confusing.
You need to untangle his thought processes.
I think he's a good guy,
but he's got issues.
You know, he went on one of his podcasts and said,
I am in my Doc Malik after mentioning Malone, by the way,
and Sasha, let's see what he said.
And Doc Malik, let me get this right,
American meddler money grabbing grifter or something like that.
Okay, I take back everything I've said.
And I just and my somewhat one of my listeners sent me this short clip and I looked up on my signal and I was this.
Oh, yeah, I'll play this and it's like a Doc Malik is a globalist there and I was on my jaw dropped.
I was like, is this a joke or something?
I was like, so I think but it was real.
I just tried to overlook people's weaknesses because your skills together with his skills are fantastic.
Thanks. That's just a suggestion.
I agree because I am not an investigative journalist.
I am. I'm not a scientist.
I am now no longer an orthopedic surgeon.
I am a podcaster and I give a platform to people whose voices need to be heard.
I do a supporter stories podcast, which is I think unique where I get my supporters who are nobodies.
But somebody's to give their stories and everyone and it's not just about Colvin.
All of them have got something important to say.
Many of my supporters end up having their own podcasts episode dedicated just for themselves.
So my job is to host people, to give a platform and a voice to people and to quiz them and question them and push them and to hear what they have to say and to so that I learn and that my audience learns.
I think JJ's not good at that.
I think he's not good at conveying the message, but he has a genius mind.
I think he's got a great heart and I think he's a good soul.
Yes.
Okay.
But he's not very good at selling himself.
And I think some of the bitterness and resentment that he has had with certain people, he has lashed out on me because maybe he sees all he's so successful and blah, blah, blah.
Although I don't feel it.
And he's just upset.
And this is what I mean.
We're you know, we're all human and we've all got frailties and you know, I'm tired, man.
I'm tired of all of this.
You know, I just want to deal with the enemy.
But like people are messy.
People are sticky and messy.
And that's the reality of life, you know.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you, Lars.
Okay.
Next.
Now be tight, everybody.
No long speeches.
We've got 15 minutes to go.
And Stephen gets the last five minutes.
Daria, then Anders.
And then Jeremy.
Oh, hi.
And of course, oh my God.
Go ahead and go to Anders because my dog just saw three deer.
Okay.
And they're just staring at us across the street.
All right.
We'll come back to you, Daria.
Anders.
Wake up, Anders.
It's you.
You muted, Anders.
God bless Anders.
He's been holding out.
Oh, he's gone.
No, he hasn't.
He's coming back.
Oh, he's back.
Anders, you're muted still.
No, you're muted, Anders.
You've got to unmute yourself.
He's talking.
I don't understand this.
Anders, you're still muted.
He's still talking.
He'll work it out.
No one else can unmute him except him.
Go to Jeremy then, Charles and then Gary.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Just a quick one.
Loved what you said.
I think the idea of talking about questioning everything is so sensible.
I think you did a great summary on that.
I had a friend of mine over today who's a medical legal expert, and I just wondered whether you'd come across the Lucy Letbe case and whether you've ever heard of John Sweeney,
because he's got a very interesting series of podcasts on there.
It's completely separate.
But I felt after listening to my friend today, who specializes in medical legal cases, he's completely convinced of her innocence and the fact that the hospital are covering up a terrible crime.
Yeah, that's dead right.
So, so in answer to that, Jeremy, thank you so much for your kind words.
And I had Kate Shimerani talk about Lucy Letbe on the podcast, and she was of the opinion, the same opinion.
That was a cover up and that she was a victim.
And that was a while ago.
Yeah, I was I was very upset.
The system, the system in the NHS is so corrupt.
It's unbelievable.
It punishes good doctors and nurses who do the right thing.
And it covers up, you know, the bad doctors and nurses.
And, you know, you never hear of it.
You never hear of it.
And that's the reality of what we're dealing with now.
Now, if your medical legal expert wants to break down the points and thinks he can explain it all on a podcast, you know, get him in touch with me.
I won't be covering it again because I don't know much of it.
Like I said, I can't be an expert on 9-11 geopolitics, geoengineering, vaccines.
I'm here to host people.
So if people have got.
Yeah, I just wanted to ask you, you know, if you've got time, so I will reach out to them and then maybe you'll reach to John Sweeney and then maybe John could reach out to you.
Because they're the people who really, really know it.
You see, you've even got a police chief, a police inspector on there.
It's on the video, which I've only just been made aware of it today.
Really, I haven't really heard much.
And I thought, God, I've got to do something about this.
It's worthwhile reaching out to a group like this to see if there's anyone who might be able to help because it seems like a very, very serious miscarriage of justice.
It's in with everything else.
That's my bit for today.
Great. Love what you're doing.
And I love making people question everything they hear despite.
And indeed, Jeremy is a dentist in the Channel Islands, who I think you should have on your podcast to discuss his investment strategies.
I think that would be useful.
Jeremy thinks quite interestingly about investments and no rush for it.
But I think Jeremy's got lots to teach your listeners.
But he also knows about COVID as well because he was really suffering.
No, it's plenty of COVID.
Come on.
Investment, Stephen, I reckon.
Armand, you would get real benefit from having a conversation with Jeremy.
Wow.
Charles and Stephen, you've both got my details.
You can do an introduction on WhatsApp.
I posted Armstrong's comments today just about them suggesting that they're going to leave long range weapons to the Ukrainians because this is exactly what the neocons want in Russia.
Yeah, we won't go there.
Jeremy, could you email me about the Latvian case?
I'd be very grateful.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that's a good point, Stephen.
Kate talked about the Latvian case, I thought.
And it's an outrage what's happening there.
I really would.
And the other proposal that we've had is that we should have a roundtable on Ryan or Fulmik.
But let's just take that Latvian and Fulmik as topics.
One last thing, maybe Gary's going to come back is whether you can reach out to Michael Yohn and get Michael Yohn on here.
He's an amazing speaker.
Well, Daria has been putting that suggestion.
So let's go to Dorset Lippie.
Jeremy, can you tell me about both those things because it's difficult to keep track of.
Can I quickly say something before we end?
I just want to say I love Martina Wessels' background.
The real conspiracy theorists believe that the government cares about them.
Martina's like hiding now so I can see more of the...
The real conspiracy theorists believe that the government cares about them.
The media would never mislead them or lie to them.
And whatever pharmaceuticals, whatever makes them better.
Yeah, I mean, that's the main one, the top one, that the government cares.
And it doesn't matter which government, which party.
Like, that's... Listen, folks, don't drop the ball now.
We've come so far.
Don't drop the ball. Governments are not our friends.
We do not trust them. We do not trust them. That's the mantra.
All right. Let's go to...
Keep knitting, Martina. God bless you.
Daria, is your dog's... Have your dog's clock leaving any interesting statement?
Yeah, we walked away from the deer.
They decided they were going to stay put and have dinner on the lawn across the street.
So I just turned around and started coming home.
But yeah, Akhmet, it's great to see you again, fellow surgeon.
What you were saying about the spiritual war is spot on.
As far as what's going on, that's what I put in there.
I said, I think we're in the last book of the Bible, New Testament, Revelation.
We're like, is our You Are Here map right now?
Seems like everything's happening that's described.
And what I really appreciated was your contemplation about possibly...
This not being our first rodeo as far as creation goes.
And that it sure seems like when you study things like astrophysics and cosmology
and you see the cyclical nature of disaster cycles,
that the things that are written that are divinely inspired in the holy books
do parallel quite a bit with what appears to be the Holy Spirit.
And I just wondered if you'd looked into that at all and looked into the solar cycles
and the cataclysms that have happened in the past on the 6,000 and 12,000 year cycles,
because I think we just have to take that in stride and keep it as a data point
as we contemplate all these things.
None of us are going to be here forever, that's for sure.
But thank you again. It was a wonderful presentation.
I appreciate it very much.
And Daria, tell us about why Michael, because you've been watching Michael Yon
at the Red Pill Expo, why do you say that Stephen should invite him?
Oh my God, this guy had so many truth bombs talking.
Well, see, you know, he's been going to all the hot spots around the world
and looking at things like the migration disaster and how it's going to affect the planet.
He's been going to all the hot spots around the world and looking at things like the migration disaster
and how organized it is on a global scale and how the US and the UN are jointly involved
in creating the whole thing.
And he's got all kinds of intel about what's been going on south of the border.
Oh shit, she's going after a squirrel now.
But anyway, you definitely want to get him on.
Oh, I see the squirrel, he's up in the tree.
Anyway, sorry, this is a 40 pound dog.
Thanks, Daria.
Daria, you're reminding me of the scene in Up, the cartoon where the dog goes, squirrel!
That's exactly what's happening.
Squirrel!
That's a branch just laughing at us, so stupid human with those basset hands.
I know.
Listen, to answer your question, I have heard things, I've read one or two substacks about this.
I'm not an expert on it.
I've watched the documentaries by Graham Hancock, you know, the Apocalypse, Ancient Apocalypse.
There does seem some kind of cyclical thing going on, like almost like the game gets wiped and then we start again.
You know, I don't believe in evolution.
I think we're products of design.
We have been created.
I just do not believe this whole evolution and the timeframes that we're given.
I just don't believe that.
I think that's all a lot of garbage.
And I think there's a lot of our history that has been hidden from us purposefully and maybe even has just been lost.
Something strange has gone on in our history and we just don't know about it.
And maybe that would explain about a lot of what we're seeing today that the people in the power are aware of stuff that we don't know, you know, and that's why we're always at a disadvantage because knowledge is power.
I don't know.
Well said.
Thank you, Daria.
Thank you so much.
God bless you.
Thank you.
And as David.
He's still muted, Andrush.
I don't know.
He's got a problem with his mute.
He managed to unmute.
I saw.
And then.
He's not there now.
Andrush, are you there?
Mystifying.
OK.
Stephen, you go.
We're getting close to the end and we need to put Ahmed to bed so he can do his proper podcast tomorrow.
So, Ahmed, you just said knowledge is power and you've got three young children, I think.
Is that right?
Two or three?
I can't remember.
Three.
So you have an interest in educating your children.
I would have thought.
So my question to you is a very broad one.
So I think essentially what you would get in your presentation, it seemed to me, maybe I'm wrong, but you were trying to get people to think for themselves.
And you were kind of using your powers to, you know, some people might say, confuse people, but I think you weren't doing that.
But you were using humor and sarcasm and irony.
And anyway, so I just wanted to know what what do you think we know for certain?
And if we don't know very much, but think we do, that seems to be a pretty dangerous situation.
How do we organize to produce a reliable education system?
Because it seems to me if we're all having lots of children, then we need to educate our children otherwise.
OK, I think what I know for certain is I know my neighbors, I know my my friends that I meet.
I know my community.
I know my family.
I know where I get my food from.
I know that I don't need any government or the latest policy or any latest legislation to save me.
I don't need anyone to revamp an organization to make sure that I'm healthy.
I'm doing all that for myself.
What I do know is you do not need the state to look after you.
What I do know is that taxation is a way that the state keeps you in a weak position.
They can print money.
We see them printing money all the time.
Taxation is just a simple way of keeping the slave down so that you can't lift your head.
You can't look past a week in the future and you cannot see who's holding the whip and take it off them.
These are the things I know.
In terms of governments and policies and administrations, I have no idea.
There's a game being played.
And you know, what does it say?
You never win against the house.
So what about science?
Do we believe the science and do we believe that they're capable of determining how far it is to what science?
What's the nearest to the nearest planetary system, solar system other than next to ours?
You know, four light years away.
That's a long way away, isn't it?
Do we, you know, have they got any?
So do we understand the universe?
Do we know that it's 93 million miles to the sun and 250,000 miles to the moon?
That kind of thing.
Is that is anything certain or?
All right.
Listen, listen, listen.
I've heard very lots of very intelligent people and very religious people.
And I say to me the air is flat.
There's a firmament.
Space is a lot like look, look, look.
I don't want to get lost in this.
You know, what is it that matters to me today is my freedom and my health, children, my family.
And you know what?
That's what I'm going to focus on.
What I know.
And when someone takes my freedoms away and someone takes my rights away, not my human rights, not something that's been designated and decided by some group, no, my inalienable rights.
I know them.
No one is allowed to take them away from me.
And if they try to, then I'm going to fight it and I'm going to resist.
But these are the things I know.
I don't know about I don't want to go into space.
I still believe the world is round.
I still believe there is space.
I love sci fi.
I love reading sci fi.
I want to hold on to that.
Don't take it away from me.
But they did take your profession away from me as they did from me.
Yeah, they did.
They did.
But listen, for a while, I thought they did that to me.
Now I've come to the position where I thank them for doing it for me.
So, you know, I am very happy.
I have purpose in my life.
I'm living an authentic life.
And now that I know what I know of the medical system, I would not want to be part of it.
It's too corrupt.
So, correct.
But the point is they did do evil to you.
Will you hold them to account in the future?
Will you explain to people what happened?
Yeah, of course.
Okay, good.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
I mean, I carry this.
I carry that in my plastic folder.
Oh, nice.
When I show people, I'll email it to you and you can have this because it's one people read it and it really has an impact.
So you're quite right.
So Martina and I are in heated agreement on this wonderful person, whoever she is.
We should make her famous.
I'm a say.
Who is this woman?
Okay.
I don't know who Danny is.
Can Danny speak up?
I love Danny's comments throughout.
And I love this one.
This session has revealed the participants personal biases very clearly.
Danny has a lot of views in particular about me.
Not very complimentary.
But if he thinks he can do a better job than we're doing, then he can.
That's expressing his anyway.
Steven, what other people think of us is none of our business.
It's a good quote, Charles.
Yep.
Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.
That was young.
Yeah.
You want another one?
Yep.
Wait a minute.
Oh, damn it.
How to get back.
There we are.
Next one.
There's some great ones here.
So Aldous Huxley said it's embarrassing that after 45 years of research and study, the best advice I can give to people is to be a little kinder to each other.
I think we'll finish with that one.
It's a great one.
Let's be kinder to each other.
Agreed.
All right, everybody.
Thank you, Ahmed.
Go to bed.
Thank you, Steven.
Thanks, everyone, for the contributions for being here.
On we go in a collaborative learning journey.
God bless everyone.
God bless.
And see you next time.
Bye, everybody.
Night.
Bye bye.
Thank you, Ahmed.
Bye bye.
Thanks so much.