1 0:00:00 --> 0:00:08 the narrative. I think Charles we're very guilty of being lazy when it comes to offering the public 2 0:00:09 --> 0:00:15 an alternative narrative. Well that's we're giving it James Rogowski's here offering a different 3 0:00:15 --> 0:00:21 narrative as is Jim Thorpe and James is doing great work and you're right we have to and 4 0:00:21 --> 0:00:27 Gerry Waters wasn't shy and Vera Sharow hasn't been shy so let's keep we come to these meetings 5 0:00:27 --> 0:00:35 so we get encouraged Stephen. Encouragement is an external source of courage quite interesting. 6 0:00:35 --> 0:00:40 But the point I was trying to make Charles was that people are only too ready to be distracted 7 0:00:40 --> 0:00:46 and they have great difficulty in summing up what has happened in the last five years 8 0:00:46 --> 0:00:51 you know in the broad terms. That's the mob we need we're talking to the people who aren't 9 0:00:51 --> 0:00:57 asleep but most people yes okay everybody welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics 10 0:00:57 --> 0:01:02 International. In today's discussion this group was founded four years ago by Dr Stephen Frost 11 0:01:02 --> 0:01:07 a British trained medical doctor with a passion for truth ethics justice freedom and health. I'm 12 0:01:07 --> 0:01:15 Charles Covessi in Australia I'm Australasias passion provocateur this is a group of professionals 13 0:01:15 --> 0:01:20 different professions from all around the world not just doctors and as I say we are from all 14 0:01:20 --> 0:01:28 around the world many of us now realize that vaccines of all descriptions are not safe nor 15 0:01:28 --> 0:01:37 effective and that no vaccines have ever been proven via any gold standard to be safe or 16 0:01:37 --> 0:01:44 effective. First time is a warmly welcome to introduce yourself in the chat we are in the 17 0:01:44 --> 0:01:50 midst of World War III and then we have 12 battlefronts one of them is the Medical 18 0:01:51 --> 0:01:58 Science Battlefront there's 11 others including a spiritual battlefront and if you're watching this 19 0:01:58 --> 0:02:03 for the first time this is the place for you to be encouraged to stand up for what you believe 20 0:02:03 --> 0:02:13 is right. These two and a half hour sessions are followed by Tom Rodman running a optional telegram 21 0:02:13 --> 0:02:22 video chat we'll hear from our guest presenter Dr James Thorpe called Jim from US of A whose 22 0:02:22 --> 0:02:26 great talents come from his wife Maggie he'll tell you that later but Maggie's the one that's 23 0:02:26 --> 0:02:32 really keeping making Jim Thorpe famous she's a she's a lawyer behind every great man is a lawyer 24 0:02:32 --> 0:02:39 woman. So we will listen to Jim Jim has spoken to us I think three times previously and we're 25 0:02:39 --> 0:02:44 grateful that him I will introduce him in a moment and we're grateful Jim that you can join us 26 0:02:46 --> 0:02:52 and after Jim presents from whatever he wishes to present we have Q&A and Stephen Frost will have 27 0:02:52 --> 0:02:59 the first set of questions for 15 minutes this is a free speech environment appropriately moderated 28 0:02:59 --> 0:03:05 and if you're offended be offended we're not interested we're lovingly not interested. We 29 0:03:05 --> 0:03:14 choose love over fear fear binds and sickens and love liberates heals and inspires these twice 30 0:03:14 --> 0:03:22 weekly gatherings are far from mere talk they've birthed real world actions and alliances. A key 31 0:03:22 --> 0:03:28 tactic in our fight is exposing medical crimes on social media rallying behind John Rappaport's 32 0:03:28 --> 0:03:34 crafted mantra of medical truth now that's what we want medical truth now. 33 0:03:36 --> 0:03:41 Share any solutions or products in the chat and Jim we're welcome we're delighted to welcome you 34 0:03:41 --> 0:03:47 again and for the purposes of the recording let me then do the magic trick of 35 0:03:50 --> 0:03:53 telling people a little bit about your amazing 36 0:03:54 --> 0:04:01 journey you're a board certified obstetrician gynaecologist and maternal fetal medicine physician 37 0:04:01 --> 0:04:07 with 46 years of experience in obstetrics you remain active in clinical practice and you've 38 0:04:07 --> 0:04:13 dedicated your career to both patient care and clinical research throughout this career you've 39 0:04:13 --> 0:04:18 cared for a high volume of high risk pregnant patients while maintaining a strong presence in 40 0:04:18 --> 0:04:24 academic medicine you've authored 224 scientific publications including approximately 40 focused on 41 0:04:26 --> 0:04:32 COVID-19 you've served as a peer reviewer for major medical journals and you were a member of 42 0:04:32 --> 0:04:37 the board of directors for the society of a maternal fetal medicine for three years you've also served 43 0:04:37 --> 0:04:44 as an examiner for the American board of obstetrics and gynaecology you served in the US Air Force 44 0:04:44 --> 0:04:48 where you're awarded a health profession scholarship for your medical education 45 0:04:48 --> 0:04:53 in 2003 you testified before the US Senate under the Bush administration on the topic of trusting 46 0:04:53 --> 0:05:02 the fetus as a patient highlighting advancements in in utero therapies you later returned to testify 47 0:05:02 --> 0:05:10 before the Senate in December 2022 and again earlier this year on May the 21st the anniversary 48 0:05:10 --> 0:05:17 of my first marriage Jim and I'm an expert in marriage and on in May 2025 you address concerns 49 0:05:17 --> 0:05:23 about the corruption of science and government agencies recently you've also concentrated your 50 0:05:23 --> 0:05:29 research on the COVID-19 pandemic resulting in the publication of 32 scientific articles your 51 0:05:29 --> 0:05:36 latest book Sacrifice how the deadliest vaccine in history targeted the most vulnerable and that was 52 0:05:36 --> 0:05:41 released in February this year you've also appeared in several documentary films including 53 0:05:41 --> 0:05:48 Shot Dead and Died Suddenly you currently practice as a maternal fetal medicine specialist in a major 54 0:05:48 --> 0:05:53 hospital you you serve as chief of maternal and prenatal health at the wellness company 55 0:05:54 --> 0:06:00 the website of that is twc.health and you're a founding member of the advanced biological 56 0:06:00 --> 0:06:10 research group abrg.org in the show notes are the links to your Senate testimony of this year which 57 0:06:10 --> 0:06:18 is very powerful and you appeared there and there's also a YouTube link of you with Senator Ron 58 0:06:18 --> 0:06:24 Johnson and with your very clever wife Maggie so Jim thank you again for being with us thank you 59 0:06:24 --> 0:06:30 Stephen for us for starting this group and Jim we are in your hands you can share your screen 60 0:06:30 --> 0:06:40 if you wish over to you. Thank you so much Charles this is such an honor and privilege to be with 61 0:06:41 --> 0:06:49 really with my favorite group to be with it really is just an honor and privilege 62 0:06:49 --> 0:06:56 I want to start off by this is real live stuff just got done seeing a patient and no unique 63 0:06:56 --> 0:07:04 identifiers you don't know where she is or I should say they are because I see patients from 64 0:07:04 --> 0:07:13 all over the world but this is real live and accurate to the detail a very young beautiful 65 0:07:13 --> 0:07:21 couple set up a consultation with me and they have a daughter who's 15 years old 66 0:07:22 --> 0:07:32 and they are distraught because their 15 year old went to see an obstetrician gynecologist 67 0:07:33 --> 0:07:39 at one of the major medical centers in that city which this family live 68 0:07:40 --> 0:07:46 which this family live beautiful family just a beautiful family 69 0:07:48 --> 0:07:58 very devout Catholic family and the main reason that the family had contacted me 70 0:08:00 --> 0:08:06 was they were actually given my name by somebody who I won't mention was actually another physician 71 0:08:07 --> 0:08:15 and she had menorrhagia chief complaint of menorrhagia for those of you who don't know 72 0:08:15 --> 0:08:22 what that medical term is that means that this is a young lady that has extraordinarily heavily 73 0:08:23 --> 0:08:31 heavy menstrual periods so she's 15 she started menstruating normally at age 12 74 0:08:32 --> 0:08:41 and she had been extensively worked up appropriately so and so I delved into the 75 0:08:41 --> 0:08:48 history the main concern that the doctor had and actually the couple had was their ob-gyn doctor 76 0:08:48 --> 0:09:00 recommended an iud in this 15 year old adolescent and I must admit that that sounded very 77 0:09:02 --> 0:09:11 odd to me to to put it politely but I'd be happy to see them and so I delve into the history 78 0:09:12 --> 0:09:19 a little bit more and I find out that she's also on some other medications 79 0:09:20 --> 0:09:27 that were perplexing to me lamyctal was one of them another antidepressant was another one of them 80 0:09:28 --> 0:09:37 and some some other medications and when I the adolescent wasn't there the mother and father were 81 0:09:37 --> 0:09:45 there and I said well does she have any other history and she said well she's had three 82 0:09:45 --> 0:09:54 concussions over the last three years and what what do you mean she's had three concussions that 83 0:09:54 --> 0:10:00 had three concussions that's what what's happened here oh well we don't know she's just been 84 0:10:00 --> 0:10:07 a little off balance and been falling around oh and have you seen a neurologist 85 0:10:09 --> 0:10:18 well we did and they sent our daughter to a vertigo vertigo means spinning medical word for 86 0:10:18 --> 0:10:25 spinning to a vertigo physical therapist and they did a ct scan couldn't find anything wrong 87 0:10:27 --> 0:10:35 interesting I said very interesting so uh is there anything else that I should know 88 0:10:36 --> 0:10:44 any other concerning history well she's quite depressed okay and she described the periods the 89 0:10:44 --> 0:10:51 periods menstrual periods were really not that they were they were quite heavy but her hemoglobin 90 0:10:51 --> 0:11:00 was normal the usual workup that we would do was normal oftentimes hereditary bleeding disorders 91 0:11:00 --> 0:11:07 occur and cause this not uncommonly whether it's von willebrand's disease or hemophilia a or 92 0:11:07 --> 0:11:14 hemophilia b or ray or platelet disorder but nobody seemed to of all the doctors she's seen 93 0:11:14 --> 0:11:21 which was um close to a dozen do you think that anybody connected the dots did anybody say 94 0:11:23 --> 0:11:26 did your daughter receive a covid 19 vaccine none of them did 95 0:11:27 --> 0:11:32 and she received a covid 19 vaccine after all this started 96 0:11:32 --> 0:11:42 and I said your daughter is vaccine injured this is classic this is absolutely classic she has very 97 0:11:42 --> 0:11:49 abnormal menstrual periods um she has lost her balance she's fallen and had three concussions 98 0:11:50 --> 0:11:57 and she's depressed and anxious and has had suicidal ideation 99 0:11:57 --> 0:12:02 and anxious and has had suicidal ideation 100 0:12:04 --> 0:12:11 so I shared with her um this was a very long visit I like to spend as much time as I can 101 0:12:11 --> 0:12:16 with with my patients and by the way I don't charge them either I don't charge them a dime 102 0:12:17 --> 0:12:26 um I do I do make them sign a paper uh that documents that I'm not entering into a physician 103 0:12:26 --> 0:12:34 patient relationship and that you know my wife's an attorney come on right so I've been in this 104 0:12:34 --> 0:12:41 situation long enough where I know that fraudsters will come after me and try to report me to the 105 0:12:41 --> 0:12:47 medical boards and all this other nonsense so I get all my ducks in a row legally and have them 106 0:12:47 --> 0:12:54 sign the appropriate paperwork but I don't take a dime if they want to contribute to the um my 107 0:12:54 --> 0:13:00 vaccine injured fund through the wellness company or they want to uh make a donation to the advanced 108 0:13:00 --> 0:13:05 biological research group which is also a 501c3 they're fine to do that but I don't care about 109 0:13:05 --> 0:13:12 money I'm interested in helping people the couple the mom and dad were shocked but they 110 0:13:12 --> 0:13:20 received it and said this makes a lot of sense and then I I reviewed with them and I know that 111 0:13:20 --> 0:13:28 Maggie wouldn't mind me sharing this but I said you know um Dick and Jane that's not their real 112 0:13:28 --> 0:13:39 name said I want to share a story with you Maggie is from one of four there's she has three siblings 113 0:13:39 --> 0:13:48 she's the youngest of four daughters and all three of Maggie's older sisters and Maggie came this 114 0:13:48 --> 0:13:56 close to having the vaccine all three of her sisters had it all three of them had severe 115 0:13:56 --> 0:14:01 vaccine injuries including interestingly all three of them falling down 116 0:14:03 --> 0:14:09 two of them having massive facial trauma from planting their face on cement I mean really the 117 0:14:09 --> 0:14:17 exact same thing this 15 year old girl had and then I also shared with her you know 118 0:14:17 --> 0:14:27 our recent publication and and I shared this with Charles and I think Dr. Steven and we'll put a 119 0:14:27 --> 0:14:33 link in the chat but I think just six or eight weeks ago this is after two weeks of work 120 0:14:35 --> 0:14:44 I have been following psychiatric symptoms and also cognitive symptoms in the VAERS database for 121 0:14:45 --> 0:14:54 two years every quarter I've been updating it and every single quarter the safety signal grew 122 0:14:54 --> 0:15:00 louder and louder and louder and finally I said enough's enough we're going to publish this put 123 0:15:00 --> 0:15:06 it in print we put it in pre-print and it's been in pre-print for probably six months it was 124 0:15:06 --> 0:15:14 published in a peer-reviewed medical journal oh six or eight weeks ago and basically the I have 125 0:15:15 --> 0:15:23 several co-authors who are really notable co-authors Claire Rogers and Kirsten Cosgrove who 126 0:15:23 --> 0:15:33 are both McCullough Foundation scholars also Dr. Peter Bregan is is on this paper for those of 127 0:15:33 --> 0:15:40 you who know him he's a world-renowned psychiatrist also Dr. Drew Pinsky is on this paper 128 0:15:40 --> 0:15:48 and Dr. Peter McCullough on this paper so not a group of authors that just fell off the turnip 129 0:15:48 --> 0:15:55 truck I guess is my point I was very honored to have these co-authors but what we looked at was 130 0:15:55 --> 0:16:05 86 different adverse events and from the VAERS database again just to review 131 0:16:06 --> 0:16:12 some of you who may not be familiar with the United States of America the vaccine injury 132 0:16:12 --> 0:16:22 surveillance system is called VAERS VAERS vaccine adverse event reporting system 133 0:16:23 --> 0:16:29 and interestingly that comes straight pretty much straight from the UK 134 0:16:31 --> 0:16:40 Sandwich UK Pfizer facility which is our main research so there's thousands I would say 5,000 135 0:16:41 --> 0:16:48 lower level symptoms so we looked at we picked out say 86 of those symptoms that were relevant 136 0:16:49 --> 0:16:57 most of which 47 were related to loss of cognitive function the second grouping was 137 0:16:57 --> 0:17:05 neuropsychiatric diseases psychiatric illnesses and the last group was a severe form of psychiatric 138 0:17:05 --> 0:17:18 illness and that is suicide homicide or suicidal or homicidal ideation out to the chase every 139 0:17:18 --> 0:17:26 single one of those categories had a profound safety signal so I shared that with with this 140 0:17:26 --> 0:17:36 couple is that yes not not not only not only does the COVID-19 vaccine kill and injure but it does 141 0:17:36 --> 0:17:45 so in every single organ system you could imagine so she she has my cell phone number 142 0:17:46 --> 0:17:53 you know she can text me and get more information what did I recommend first thing was 143 0:17:55 --> 0:18:03 bone up on the literature you know get the books don't believe Dr. Jim Thorpe don't believe any of 144 0:18:03 --> 0:18:08 your other doctors because we've all been bribed it's a it's a matter of whether or not they've 145 0:18:08 --> 0:18:13 taken the bribe and and your doctors can't be truthful with you don't believe doctors or nurses 146 0:18:13 --> 0:18:23 you are your own best advocate nobody will advocate better for you than you and I'm speaking 147 0:18:23 --> 0:18:30 to everybody listening to this you don't need to be a doctor or a nurse or a health care profession 148 0:18:32 --> 0:18:39 there are available publications all over the world for you that you could look at 149 0:18:39 --> 0:18:46 you could look at and you can determine the best route to go if you're contemplating any 150 0:18:46 --> 0:18:55 particular therapy so I would advocate be your own advocate be aware of the corruption so I just 151 0:18:55 --> 0:19:05 wanted to make a a real live venue there that that I got just done with before coming on this show 152 0:19:06 --> 0:19:15 I wanted to just run through 10 of the studies very quickly and we'll get links in the chat 153 0:19:17 --> 0:19:26 10 studies that essentially in my opinion irrefutably document the adverse effects of 154 0:19:26 --> 0:19:33 the COVID-19 vaccine in pregnancy you know the first one number one is Pfizer's 5.3.6 post 155 0:19:33 --> 0:19:42 marketing data I'll drop a link to that right in the chat right now as I'm talking 156 0:19:47 --> 0:19:52 or maybe I won't because that'll slow me up and I can't find it quite here it goes 157 0:19:53 --> 0:20:01 yeah so there's that reference right there you can look at that and if you go to page seven 158 0:20:02 --> 0:20:07 on that document that I just sent you you see a couple of interesting things 159 0:20:08 --> 0:20:15 in just 10 weeks of the first marketing there were 42,086 casualties including 1,223 dead 160 0:20:17 --> 0:20:24 just in 10 weeks not from Moderna just from Pfizer deadliest vaccine deadliest medicine 161 0:20:25 --> 0:20:34 in the history of humanity deadliest medical product so there's some interesting things 162 0:20:34 --> 0:20:41 about it though that you can discern and the first one is that from this page seven you can 163 0:20:41 --> 0:20:47 you can see that I'm not making that up that's definitely true so the numbers that I'm telling 164 0:20:47 --> 0:20:55 you but isn't it interesting that in all of these adverse events there's a female to male 165 0:20:55 --> 0:21:04 preponderance of over I think 3.3 to one in other words for every male that was injured or killed 166 0:21:05 --> 0:21:11 multiply that times 3.3 to get the number of females now there could be a lot of bias in there 167 0:21:11 --> 0:21:17 but it's not all bias it's interesting I think to contrast because if you look at the sudden death 168 0:21:17 --> 0:21:25 and cardiac complications it's completely the opposite right it's totally the opposite it's 169 0:21:25 --> 0:21:32 predominantly male not female although of course there's some overlap but on page 12 of that 170 0:21:32 --> 0:21:42 document is the pregnancy outcomes now you know we had an incredible guest on on this show before 171 0:21:43 --> 0:21:52 I'm not sure if he was a guest or or a commenter an Israeli researcher Dr Josh Getzko who by the 172 0:21:52 --> 0:22:03 way out a brilliant young investigator who who is actually I hosted him on my weekly hour show called 173 0:22:03 --> 0:22:11 two docs pwo2 as in two doctors docs it's dr renny moon and myself we've been doing a weekly show 174 0:22:12 --> 0:22:21 last over a year and a half and he was on and and he he made some really he just is he's a lead 175 0:22:21 --> 0:22:30 author of the last study that I'll review but but he's a brilliant chap and and so he he made the 176 0:22:30 --> 0:22:36 comment well you know you really can't you can look at the raw data but you can't really make 177 0:22:36 --> 0:22:42 absolutes with regard to fetal death rates and to miscarriage rates and and that's true 178 0:22:43 --> 0:22:49 clearly they're increased but you you can't this is just reported data from Pfizer but it is 179 0:22:49 --> 0:22:55 interesting to see that at least from their data the miscarriage rate is extraordinarily high 180 0:22:57 --> 0:23:06 and the fetal death rate and neonatal death rates are extraordinarily high so that's that's a that's 181 0:23:06 --> 0:23:15 the Pfizer studies the the third study that was published and that I'm doing these in 182 0:23:15 --> 0:23:22 chronological order so you know really you could look at that as just one study but there's two 183 0:23:22 --> 0:23:29 pages of that study that are relevant page seven and page 12 the third study is the study 184 0:23:29 --> 0:23:37 that Thorpe and colleagues published I'm sorry not Thorpe and colleagues it was Thorpe alone 185 0:23:38 --> 0:23:44 and this was a letter an open letter to the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology that 186 0:23:44 --> 0:23:52 was published globally this was published January 12 2022 it was actually a 98 page letter 187 0:23:53 --> 0:23:59 and this was after the organizations that have honored me my entire career threatened to 188 0:23:59 --> 0:24:05 destroy me take away my medical licenses in every state and take away my board certifications 189 0:24:05 --> 0:24:17 despite my exemplary professional career that they honored me with so basically I exposed them 190 0:24:17 --> 0:24:24 anybody can read that letter and this was the first publication of the governmental data and by the 191 0:24:24 --> 0:24:32 way it included 1019 peer-reviewed publications in just 12 months from peer-reviewed medical 192 0:24:32 --> 0:24:36 journals documenting death and injury from the COVID-19 vaccines can you imagine that 193 0:24:37 --> 0:24:44 1019 in just 12 months and now there's well over 4 000 so so that was the second publication and 194 0:24:44 --> 0:24:53 that also documented a huge huge safety signal breach for pregnant vaccine and pregnant women 195 0:24:53 --> 0:25:03 so I published that went globally and crickets never heard another word from them they they knew 196 0:25:03 --> 0:25:08 they were dead wrong they knew I was right they knew they didn't want to screw with me 197 0:25:09 --> 0:25:15 they knew that or they'd be in big trouble because I would go after them and there would 198 0:25:15 --> 0:25:21 be this process called discovery and they knew what they were doing was immoral and unethical 199 0:25:22 --> 0:25:30 so the next publication would be about a year later and this was a more formal analysis this 200 0:25:30 --> 0:25:38 was by um forb and colleagues also including uh clara rogers michael duskovich a phd dod 201 0:25:40 --> 0:25:48 in in math and modeling steward tankers lee and and and peter mccullough and others and we looked 202 0:25:48 --> 0:25:57 at 18 different adverse events um for about um this was about 20 months of the COVID-19 vaccine 203 0:25:58 --> 0:26:08 and all of those 18 adverse events in pregnancy were breached the safety signal by far and away 204 0:26:09 --> 0:26:15 now when we're comparing these safety signals I'll make this I won't get too deep into mathematics 205 0:26:15 --> 0:26:25 there's a lot of different ways to statistically measure disproportionality many many different 206 0:26:25 --> 0:26:33 ways in this particular article we used now now many will say well these are um these are 207 0:26:34 --> 0:26:40 proportional risk ratios are well that's kind of a broad term some people use that term very 208 0:26:40 --> 0:26:48 specifically others use it more broadly but in this particular paper what we did was we took the 209 0:26:48 --> 0:26:58 number of adverse events per inoculation per person vaccinated and per time massive amount 210 0:26:58 --> 0:27:07 of mathematical modeling they were all about the same so by no matter which method we used um we 211 0:27:09 --> 0:27:17 it was very significant breach of safety signals now the next study the the fourth study if you will 212 0:27:18 --> 0:27:25 is actually Pfizer's own study and very little attention is given to Pfizer's own study 213 0:27:26 --> 0:27:32 can you believe that Pfizer actually did a randomized double-blinded placebo control trial 214 0:27:32 --> 0:27:40 in pregnant women they did um it was completed in 2022 in the summer of 2022 215 0:27:41 --> 0:27:46 up here north of the hemisphere I guess that would be the winner for you child 216 0:27:47 --> 0:27:55 um but um that would be in July of 2022 and it was published in July of 2023 well wouldn't you know 217 0:27:55 --> 0:28:02 it um this was purposefully stopped and it was purposefully underpowered why would they do that 218 0:28:03 --> 0:28:08 well I'll tell you why they would do that because if they carried on and got an appropriate sample 219 0:28:08 --> 0:28:18 size there would have been very damaging results to their narrative so with just 300 patients 220 0:28:18 --> 0:28:24 by the way just 300 patients about 150 in the placebo 150 in the vaccinated group 221 0:28:26 --> 0:28:34 here's what they found there was there was greater than a two-fold increased risk of 222 0:28:34 --> 0:28:42 depressed babies at birth there was a significant increased risk of meconium aspiration syndrome 223 0:28:42 --> 0:28:48 when I say there were I can't give you an odds ratio because there were zero in the placebo group 224 0:28:50 --> 0:29:02 neonatal jaundice was increased 1.8 fold you know and genital malformations were increased 1.7 fold 225 0:29:02 --> 0:29:07 these are atrial septal defect a specific defect of the fetal heart was increased 226 0:29:08 --> 0:29:18 1.7 fold growth restricted babies abnormal nutrients and oxygen to the to the pre-born 227 0:29:18 --> 0:29:27 baby through the placenta was increased there were none in the placebo group and there were three 228 0:29:28 --> 0:29:36 in the vaccine group so growth restricted congenital nevi which is a skin classic skin 229 0:29:36 --> 0:29:44 lesion that's associated with herald for vaccine injury and also broncholitis now I want to ask you 230 0:29:45 --> 0:29:52 just they there were only 300 patients so this did not achieve statistical significance 231 0:29:53 --> 0:30:00 it comes close but if the patient number was appropriate you'd have odds of one in a million 232 0:30:01 --> 0:30:07 or certainly one in 10 000 just to give you an idea how many patients did they need 233 0:30:08 --> 0:30:14 well I can tell you how many was needed for the study that that I a randomized double blinded 234 0:30:14 --> 0:30:24 placebo control trial that I devised and I did spent the summer of 2020 developing defining 235 0:30:24 --> 0:30:33 a study you know how many patients are required 70 000 70 000 patients so so clearly this this was 236 0:30:33 --> 0:30:37 underpowered and then it was buried in their data but I want to ask you a question 237 0:30:37 --> 0:30:45 I just mentioned seven of these adverse outcomes if any pregnant woman were counseled by their 238 0:30:45 --> 0:30:50 obstetrician gynecologist at their first prenatal visit and said and gave really true informed 239 0:30:50 --> 0:30:58 consent said this is Pfizer's data you can take the vaccine but in in this in their clinical trial 240 0:30:59 --> 0:31:03 trial you had all these seven 241 0:31:05 --> 0:31:11 significant complications were associated with the COVID vaccine would any pregnant woman take it 242 0:31:11 --> 0:31:18 unfortunately no nobody would but were they given true informed consent of course they were not so 243 0:31:19 --> 0:31:22 then the the sixth study 244 0:31:28 --> 0:31:39 I had I would is the study that was just published earlier I should say it was both studies the next 245 0:31:39 --> 0:31:49 studies were published in reprint a year ago over a year ago and the part one was study was published 246 0:31:49 --> 0:31:58 in a peer-reviewed medical journal in January of this year and I was lead author on that 247 0:31:58 --> 0:32:02 Albert Benavides was a co-author on that he was a second author 248 0:32:05 --> 0:32:12 attorney Thorpe was third authored a couple of other obstetricians Dr. Dan McDyer Dr. Kim Bess 249 0:32:12 --> 0:32:19 Julie Threed a vaccine injured spokeswoman from northern California and Peter McCullough were 250 0:32:19 --> 0:32:27 co-authors on that and in that particular paper we looked at 38 different adverse events over 40 251 0:32:27 --> 0:32:35 months just in pregnancy and again there was a significant breach of safety signals in all 252 0:32:35 --> 0:32:42 38 adverse events I won't bore you with all those but there were 38 of them 28 of them were before 253 0:32:42 --> 0:32:52 birth and 10 of them were in the newborns after birth including newborn death and and also of 254 0:32:52 --> 0:33:01 course the complications before occurred also in also included a massive increase in malformations 255 0:33:01 --> 0:33:08 of every organ system you could imagine also massive increase in miscarriage and what we call 256 0:33:08 --> 0:33:14 a massive increase in fetal death or stillbirth which is really a pregnancy loss at or after 20 257 0:33:14 --> 0:33:23 weeks which is much more rare than a miscarriage in real life now there's a part two of that study 258 0:33:23 --> 0:33:32 which is also published a year ago in pre-print and that is an accepted for publication of peer 259 0:33:32 --> 0:33:41 reviewed medical journal but I haven't gotten around to resubmitting that yet Mea Copa Mea Copa 260 0:33:41 --> 0:33:50 Mea Maxima Copa the next study is a fascinating study and of all places this was published in 261 0:33:50 --> 0:34:00 2022 of all places where did it come from it came from Egypt interestingly you know isn't it 262 0:34:00 --> 0:34:05 interesting that I find this very interesting that some of the landmark studies this year 263 0:34:05 --> 0:34:12 for example the study by Caraman and colleagues where did that come from Turkey why didn't we do 264 0:34:12 --> 0:34:18 this in United States of America or why didn't you do it in the UK or why didn't you do it in 265 0:34:18 --> 0:34:26 Australia or New Zealand okay well I think you all know the answer to that but Caraman and colleagues 266 0:34:26 --> 0:34:33 found that one vaccine in we stopped rats caused a 60 reduction 267 0:34:35 --> 0:34:42 in ovarian reserve in other words it killed off 60 percent of the eggs 268 0:34:44 --> 0:34:50 ladies and gentlemen that's our future generation it does the same thing in human beings the exact 269 0:34:50 --> 0:34:56 same thing and that's exactly what the advanced biological research group my research group with 270 0:34:56 --> 0:35:03 Dr. Stephen Hadfield and also Dr. Ryan Cole and others myself founding members that's what we're 271 0:35:03 --> 0:35:08 doing but do you think the government's giving us any money to do that or do you think the NIH is 272 0:35:08 --> 0:35:13 or do you think anybody else's no not a dime you think the pharmaceutical companies are 273 0:35:14 --> 0:35:22 no not a dime every virtually every dime has come from our own pockets and all the labor 274 0:35:22 --> 0:35:28 have come from ourselves which has been a massive amount so this is why these studies 275 0:35:28 --> 0:35:36 aren't done in the United States there's another reason why the studies are falsified in the United 276 0:35:36 --> 0:35:44 States of America and I'll talk to you about that later but with after I talk about the last day 277 0:35:44 --> 0:35:50 this study if you can believe it found a significantly higher rate of miscarriages 278 0:35:50 --> 0:35:56 fetal deaths oligohydranios which means the placenta is not working there's not enough 279 0:35:56 --> 0:36:03 amniotic fluid or fluid around this the baby inside mom's uterus abnormal placentas well you've 280 0:36:03 --> 0:36:09 heard me talk about that a lot abnormal fetal growth we you know the baby doesn't get any 281 0:36:09 --> 0:36:18 nutrition enough nutrition and oxygen from the placenta breastfeeding problems hypertension high 282 0:36:18 --> 0:36:25 blood pressure problems and a whole litany of others including malaise chest pain headaches 283 0:36:26 --> 0:36:33 breathing problems sleeping problems and many others so that's a mayor am er and colleagues 284 0:36:33 --> 0:36:40 published in peer-reviewed medical journal and lastly but certainly not least is my friend 285 0:36:40 --> 0:36:50 Gutskow who was on this brilliant Israeli researcher and what Josh found 286 0:36:51 --> 0:36:58 he's a PhD and Josh and his colleagues attacked this from a different angle they basically 287 0:36:58 --> 0:37:05 decided let's look at expected versus observed ratios in all these abnormalities 288 0:37:06 --> 0:37:12 well they came out with essentially the exact same findings that the previous studies have 289 0:37:12 --> 0:37:21 documented in other words and it was a massive cohort of patients in Israel Israel from an 290 0:37:21 --> 0:37:29 insurance database so what they used as backward looking data to get an expected ratio for various 291 0:37:29 --> 0:37:36 vaccines and then they used a study period and they got in essence significant increases one of 292 0:37:36 --> 0:37:46 the very fascinating findings of Josh Gutskow Dr Josh Gutskow is that and what they postulate 293 0:37:46 --> 0:37:52 why you know other people have missed it was if they got a vaccine in early pregnancy 294 0:37:53 --> 0:37:58 oftentimes these complications weren't picked up until later in pregnancy isn't that interesting 295 0:37:59 --> 0:38:06 and and I can assure you that in my clinical experience not only is it in the same pregnancy 296 0:38:06 --> 0:38:12 but I'm seeing patients in my practice now that haven't been vaccinated for two or three years 297 0:38:12 --> 0:38:18 they're having these classic devastating complications from their first shot years ago 298 0:38:19 --> 0:38:26 and why is that in my opinion I can't prove this it's because they have extraordinarily high titers 299 0:38:26 --> 0:38:35 of what the bio weapon spike protein right so um switching gears just a little bit and 300 0:38:36 --> 0:38:42 I'm sorry to ramble on here and please interrupt me if anybody has any questions here I want to 301 0:38:42 --> 0:38:49 go and say why are there so many articles and there aren't many articles from the United States 302 0:38:49 --> 0:38:58 suggesting you know Dr Thorpe you're full of it look at all these articles that show that it's 303 0:38:58 --> 0:39:06 safe effective and necessary in pregnancy well there are but here's the problem there's not one 304 0:39:06 --> 0:39:12 hospital in the United States of America and there's not one group of researchers in the 305 0:39:12 --> 0:39:19 United States of America there's not one chairwoman or chairperson in a department 306 0:39:19 --> 0:39:24 of obstetrics and gynecology whether it's in an academic institution or a private hospital 307 0:39:25 --> 0:39:36 that will allow any investigator to put that manuscript or that data out they're not allowed 308 0:39:36 --> 0:39:40 because that's their protocol they could not publish something against their protocol 309 0:39:41 --> 0:39:48 they cannot do that or they would be showing themselves the other reason they can't do that 310 0:39:48 --> 0:39:52 is because that hospital would have to pay same reason why I was fired from one of the largest 311 0:39:52 --> 0:39:58 Catholic institutions in the country they had to fire me because I testified in front of the Senate 312 0:39:59 --> 0:40:07 because I was on Tucker Carlson I was on this platform many others and they heralded me as a 313 0:40:07 --> 0:40:12 model exemplary physician of their system one of the largest Catholic healthcare systems in the 314 0:40:12 --> 0:40:21 United States of America out of St. Louis in Missouri they fired me because if they didn't 315 0:40:21 --> 0:40:27 they took 306.9 million dollars and if they didn't fire me they'd have to pay that back 316 0:40:28 --> 0:40:36 so that's he who pays the pipe calls a tune you know as we were talking pre-show and here we 317 0:40:36 --> 0:40:43 talked about it's not just the hospital yes attorney Maggie Thorpe and I had published 318 0:40:43 --> 0:40:50 15 or 20 articles on the America Outlaw platform you know you look at every single thread of the 319 0:40:50 --> 0:40:56 fabric of our society have received money from HHS with strings attached what are those strings 320 0:40:56 --> 0:41:03 you don't have to pay the money back if you stick with our draconian COVID narratives it was all 321 0:41:03 --> 0:41:12 the religious leaders it was the AP press and all the mainstream media it was individuals it was the 322 0:41:13 --> 0:41:22 all of the NGOs it was all of the pharmacy pharmacies the major pharmacies I could go on 323 0:41:22 --> 0:41:30 and on and on so there's a reason why there's publication bias I would like to at this time 324 0:41:30 --> 0:41:38 interject an incredible substack that that you know I didn't come across this substack I was 325 0:41:38 --> 0:41:45 familiar with all these articles but I'm going to put it in the chat right now 326 0:41:45 --> 0:42:01 um this is a substack entitled this is dr Wojak's substack um and I put the link in there 327 0:42:02 --> 0:42:09 and the title of his substack is most of what your doctor practices is based on fraud 328 0:42:09 --> 0:42:21 um that's absolutely true um you know I we spoke of the David Dan Wim article when last name 329 0:42:21 --> 0:42:31 spelled N-G-U-Y-E-M published on October 10th 2024 just what 10 months ago nine months ago 330 0:42:32 --> 0:42:38 um oh gosh 10 or 11 months ago we're getting close to the final quarter of 331 0:42:39 --> 0:42:47 this year my how time flies but Dr. Winn and colleagues did a phenomenal study that just 332 0:42:47 --> 0:42:49 it blew my mind when I read it 333 0:42:51 --> 0:42:57 brilliant far beyond my skills I don't have these IT skills but they took four major medical 334 0:42:57 --> 0:43:04 journals New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA of all journals a journal that published their 335 0:43:04 --> 0:43:10 article British Medical Journal and the Lancet those are the four most influential journals in 336 0:43:10 --> 0:43:16 the world and they took the review and this was just in the United States of America 337 0:43:17 --> 0:43:23 not not any other country just focus on United States of America just focus on these four journals 338 0:43:24 --> 0:43:28 and we'll get the list of reviewers that are published in those journals from the United 339 0:43:28 --> 0:43:35 States of America now we're going to link that up with a private pay database that covers payments 340 0:43:36 --> 0:43:39 isn't that interesting they connected to the dots 341 0:43:42 --> 0:43:49 it's unbelievable just in the United States of America just from those four journals just in 342 0:43:49 --> 0:44:00 those three years 20 21 and 22 1.06 billion dollars from pharmaceutical companies or 343 0:44:00 --> 0:44:10 medical device manufacturers so not only were the journals corrupted and paid off but the reviewers 344 0:44:10 --> 0:44:20 like me took money remember 95 percent of researchers will always isn't it interesting 345 0:44:20 --> 0:44:28 find the exact same bias and results that their funding source wanted isn't that interesting 346 0:44:29 --> 0:44:40 that's true from from this substack you know we we all know Marcia Engel who was I believe the first 347 0:44:40 --> 0:44:45 female editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine at the turn of the century called out 348 0:44:45 --> 0:44:54 the New England Journal of Medicine for being totally terminally corrupted and entangled with 349 0:44:54 --> 0:45:00 the pharmaceutical and drug manufacturers ladies and gentlemen that was 25 years ago 350 0:45:01 --> 0:45:04 Richard Horton editor-in-chief of the Lancet 351 0:45:07 --> 0:45:15 quote much of the scientific literature perhaps half maybe simply untrue and he goes on 352 0:45:16 --> 0:45:20 Arnold Redmond former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine 353 0:45:21 --> 0:45:26 the medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry and he goes on and on 354 0:45:27 --> 0:45:34 Fiona Godley my colleagues over there in the UK I think you're very familiar with her former editor 355 0:45:34 --> 0:45:41 and chief of the British Medical Journal that I just quoted from the WEN study 356 0:45:43 --> 0:45:49 she points out I think we have to call it what it is it's a corruption of the scientific process 357 0:45:51 --> 0:45:57 we look at Richard Smith also a former editor-in-chief of the British Medical Journal 358 0:45:58 --> 0:46:05 again the WEN study calls that out that I just talked about medical journals are an extension 359 0:46:05 --> 0:46:12 of the marketing arm of pharmaceutical companies can you imagine that and finally and I know there's 360 0:46:12 --> 0:46:19 many more Doug Altman chief statistical advisor of the British Medical Journal the BMJ 361 0:46:20 --> 0:46:25 says the same thing so there you have it not not from Jim Thorpe 362 0:46:28 --> 0:46:31 you have it from former editors-in-chief 363 0:46:35 --> 0:46:44 the there's a 2017 study published in the BMJ and I'll link that also that found that over half 364 0:46:44 --> 0:46:51 actually 50.6 percent of editors at the world's most influential medical journals 365 0:46:51 --> 0:46:58 were receiving money directly from the pharmaceutical and medical device I'm going to put that 366 0:47:01 --> 0:47:10 in the chat so that you guys can see it sounds like I'm making this stuff up it's so 367 0:47:10 --> 0:47:20 it's just so awful there it is so in 20 you know in 2014 alone the average editor received 368 0:47:20 --> 0:47:31 over $27,000 in personal payments plus additional monies for research funds this is so not only are 369 0:47:31 --> 0:47:35 the reviewers getting money but the editors are getting money 370 0:47:35 --> 0:47:43 science is getting screwed every which way to Sunday by fraudulent payments 371 0:47:45 --> 0:47:52 of course in one of our recent publications attorney Maggie Thorpe traced direct payments 372 0:47:53 --> 0:48:02 from Rochelle Walensky at the CDC then chief director of the CDC directly to the 373 0:48:03 --> 0:48:08 New England Journal of Medicine it's called money laundering it was done through the Massachusetts 374 0:48:08 --> 0:48:17 Department of Health and speaking of departments of health you know every single department of 375 0:48:17 --> 0:48:25 health in the United States of America all 50 have received massive amounts of money from the HHS 376 0:48:25 --> 0:48:35 how much a lot Florida 1.8 billion dollars and it was awarded for COVID-19 377 0:48:36 --> 0:48:46 six months before the outbreak that's right ladies and gentlemen August 1st 2019 378 0:48:47 --> 0:49:00 August 1st 2019 and it was awarded for eight years up until July 31st 2027 and that same contract is 379 0:49:00 --> 0:49:10 in Texas for 2.2 billion dollars and every other state so why doesn't why don't things change why 380 0:49:10 --> 0:49:17 can't Bobby Kennedy come in there and pull the trigger it's a swamp it's a cesspool 381 0:49:18 --> 0:49:21 why weren't the state citizens informed 382 0:49:23 --> 0:49:29 that they had to walk lockstep or lose that money why didn't the hospitals inform 383 0:49:31 --> 0:49:38 their own doctors and their own patients that they had to walk lockstep or they'd lose millions of 384 0:49:38 --> 0:49:49 dollars you know I think I've made my point here I'd like to stop and you all have been very 385 0:49:49 --> 0:49:58 patient and I love this group it's such an honor and a privilege to be with you all and 386 0:49:59 --> 0:50:06 look forward to answering all the questions I can thank you Jim wonderful wonderful 387 0:50:06 --> 0:50:14 overview of the corruption and fraud and I hope I'd like to extract the three minutes from the five 388 0:50:15 --> 0:50:21 from the 50-minute mark where you articulated that beautifully of the of the 389 0:50:23 --> 0:50:31 quotes by editors that almost more almost half of what we publish is is simply fraudulent 390 0:50:32 --> 0:50:38 I've put into the chat an article by John Abramson of Harvard Medical School in published in Hillsdale 391 0:50:38 --> 0:50:46 College it's a wonderful article on America's Broken Health Care System gives you it all of us 392 0:50:47 --> 0:50:56 very useful hard data on what you've been talking about Jim and and we it's a very clear pathway 393 0:50:56 --> 0:51:02 that you've given to us to be able to quote so that people can't go hey here's the here is the 394 0:51:02 --> 0:51:10 research congratulations on your courageous stance and the help that you give it's a the story at the 395 0:51:10 --> 0:51:18 start of what we heard you know I think it's I think I was with a filmmaker yesterday and story 396 0:51:18 --> 0:51:24 stick because data each one of us can interpret data but you tell a story it's a powerful story 397 0:51:24 --> 0:51:30 of a 15 year old and you know having menstrual bleeding and then concussions and you go wow that 398 0:51:30 --> 0:51:37 really highlights what these jabs do and the fact that no one asked about the jabs which which also 399 0:51:37 --> 0:51:42 happens at many funerals here in Australia where people die suddenly no one's saying how shocking 400 0:51:42 --> 0:51:50 the jab must be so it's been a wonderful psychological operation by the forces of evil 401 0:51:50 --> 0:51:54 and darkness Jim and you're highlighting a light on it and we honor you for doing so and thank you 402 0:51:54 --> 0:52:03 for speaking to us and the next 15 minutes are yours young Stephen yeah so um James I'll try my 403 0:52:03 --> 0:52:12 best to um kind of uh get the uh you know to highlight what you said um um I noticed you 404 0:52:12 --> 0:52:19 being very careful I can understand why um and um I just wanted to tell you something interesting 405 0:52:19 --> 0:52:26 about Richard Horton so he's I think he's still the chief editor of the Lancet in the UK so for 406 0:52:26 --> 0:52:33 those who don't know the Lancet is one of the premier medical journals in the whole wide world 407 0:52:33 --> 0:52:41 including America and so uh James after my case after I withdrew my appeal on access to justice 408 0:52:41 --> 0:52:48 grounds against the British government and the British uh uh Ministry of Defense the British 409 0:52:48 --> 0:52:54 military essentially uh I was a whistleblower on um class a controlled drugs in the military 410 0:52:55 --> 0:53:01 and I blew the whistle in 2013 and they took me out with first of all by sacking me by text with 411 0:53:01 --> 0:53:07 no reason given uh while I was on a family holiday three weeks to the day after I told them 412 0:53:08 --> 0:53:15 that a police investigation was absolutely unavoidable in view of what they told me about 413 0:53:15 --> 0:53:21 um an incident involving class a controlled drugs on an isolated military camp at which I was the 414 0:53:21 --> 0:53:28 only doctor so to get better from that extraordinary case five and a half years of fighting the British 415 0:53:28 --> 0:53:36 government with them deliberately draining me of resources by using every trick in the book 416 0:53:37 --> 0:53:44 I had to think of ways to get better from the PTSD which was diagnosed so I decided I looked around 417 0:53:44 --> 0:53:50 and I thought well I think the best thing I can do is use the information which had been provided 418 0:53:50 --> 0:54:02 by Niels Meltzer the um UN special rapporteur on torture so we managed to get two huge letters 419 0:54:02 --> 0:54:08 published in the Lancet about the psychological torture but so I formed a group called doctors 420 0:54:08 --> 0:54:16 for Assange I didn't plan it I just did it because that's what I knew about how to form a group 421 0:54:17 --> 0:54:25 how to make contacts and we ended up with about 260 psycho psychiatrists from all over the world 422 0:54:26 --> 0:54:30 opining on the psychological torture of Julian Assange so we pulled a letter together 423 0:54:31 --> 0:54:35 I thought well let's go for the the big one the Lancer you know let's get this in the Lancet 424 0:54:35 --> 0:54:42 and I became a kind of friend if you like of Richard Horton and he got the first one published 425 0:54:42 --> 0:54:52 in February of 2020 the second one both were huge letters with appendices uh one was a long letter 426 0:54:52 --> 0:55:00 with a short appendix or short appendices and the other was a short letter with long appendices so 427 0:55:01 --> 0:55:06 they're both about 30 pages long I couldn't believe it in the Lancet about Julian Assange 428 0:55:07 --> 0:55:12 and so we were accusing four states of psychological torture of one human being 429 0:55:12 --> 0:55:22 Julian Assange and those states were um Sweden terrible we highlighted Sweden because they 430 0:55:22 --> 0:55:27 they were playing the dirtiest game of all you know you in a way I'm sorry about to say this 431 0:55:27 --> 0:55:32 about the United States but you couldn't expect any better from the United States 432 0:55:33 --> 0:55:36 so they were there of course and of course the United Kingdom was there 433 0:55:37 --> 0:55:42 and um and the other state was Australia we highlighted Australia hiding in the background 434 0:55:43 --> 0:55:51 with an Australian citizen the reason I mentioned this is because from June 2020 when we together 435 0:55:51 --> 0:55:58 with one of my sons we who's now a lawyer at Lee Day which is a famous human rights firm in London 436 0:55:58 --> 0:56:06 they only take plaintiffs they don't have any corporates or government um sponsors as it were 437 0:56:06 --> 0:56:13 or customers or clients I should say um so my second son helped me of second of three sons 438 0:56:15 --> 0:56:20 and I don't think he understands to this day well I do think he it was very important for me 439 0:56:21 --> 0:56:28 it was important for him because we proved how much you can achieve if you have a good strategy 440 0:56:29 --> 0:56:35 if you if you so we got these letters published I like to think that we actually helped Julian 441 0:56:35 --> 0:56:40 Assange because we documented the psychological torture of Julian Assange and we were signing it 442 0:56:40 --> 0:56:46 with all these psychiatrists from all over the world um and anyway point I mentioned out so from 443 0:56:46 --> 0:56:54 June to December I put a letter together about Covid-19 my developing understanding of what was 444 0:56:54 --> 0:57:00 going on and my aim the whole time was to present it to Peter Horton at the Lancet 445 0:57:02 --> 0:57:05 so eventually I put it together as best I could because I 446 0:57:07 --> 0:57:14 you know it's a tough time that five and a half years and it takes time to recover and um and so 447 0:57:15 --> 0:57:22 I did as best I could I was uh you know I couldn't carry some people they were they wanted to do this 448 0:57:22 --> 0:57:29 and that you know and I thought I must trust myself here because I think I know what I need to do um 449 0:57:29 --> 0:57:39 because of the the case but also in 2003 I'd had a a massive case with David Kelly so we essentially 450 0:57:39 --> 0:57:45 changed public opinion in the United Kingdom from suicide to murder using medicine and our 451 0:57:45 --> 0:57:53 knowledge of medical law so I had good feelings and I knew that even with the PTSD so I knew what we 452 0:57:53 --> 0:57:58 had to do I dropped the ones that we needed to drop if you understand me because they were holding 453 0:57:58 --> 0:58:08 us back so but we had a lot of people still on board and I created this draft of a of a 454 0:58:08 --> 0:58:17 letter essentially for the Lancet so I presented it to Peter Horton and uh he was on you know in 455 0:58:17 --> 0:58:24 June of 2020 I think he was um he was uh by the way Charles I'm not going to ask any more questions 456 0:58:24 --> 0:58:32 after this but it's an important point um uh in June of 2020 Horton I think it was June of 2020 457 0:58:33 --> 0:58:39 May or June he was on question time which is a BBC flagship program you know where they have the 458 0:58:39 --> 0:58:46 audience there kind of I think it's selected they say it isn't um and um and Richard Horton was one 459 0:58:46 --> 0:58:53 of the panelists and so uh and and the public can ask questions of the panelists you see 460 0:58:54 --> 0:59:02 so anyway I remember Richard Horton remonstrating on the stage I think he was standing up I was 461 0:59:02 --> 0:59:07 simply remember him standing and he was saying it was an absolute disgrace the response of the 462 0:59:07 --> 0:59:13 British government to COVID-19 I wasn't sure what he meant by that whether he meant it was you know 463 0:59:14 --> 0:59:19 a disgrace that they were psychologically torturing the British public with uh the 464 0:59:19 --> 0:59:25 nudge units and all this you know so anyway point is I prepared the the article for him because I 465 0:59:25 --> 0:59:31 knew that he I thought like to think he was a good guy you know because he had helped me with June 466 0:59:31 --> 0:59:39 Assange um so I thought he would help me when I kind of presented what we had it wasn't doctors 467 0:59:39 --> 0:59:46 for Assange obviously it was kind of the precursors of this group but I thought he would you know say 468 0:59:46 --> 0:59:52 well frost's got history you know we published those two letters so I need to have a look at this 469 0:59:53 --> 1:00:00 so I sent it to him the draft in December of 2020 I finally pulled it together at least 470 1:00:00 --> 1:00:07 partly to my satisfaction I knew it wasn't fully there um but it was pretty good and um 471 1:00:09 --> 1:00:16 and I sent it to Lord Sumption as well um he didn't even thank me for it he'd asked for a copy 472 1:00:16 --> 1:00:21 when I when I completed it but he didn't thank and I pulled it I told him off for not thanking me 473 1:00:22 --> 1:00:29 so anyway um Richard Horton was very polite he said Stephen I think you know this but I can't 474 1:00:29 --> 1:00:39 publish this about COVID-19 so if you would like to write with me James to Richard Horton 475 1:00:39 --> 1:00:46 we can do a kind of or if you know anybody a doctor who would like to write to Richard Horton and 476 1:00:47 --> 1:00:54 ask him why he didn't publish I'll send it to you if you like and I think that might be something 477 1:00:54 --> 1:01:02 good to do and expose Richard Horton he can't be saying that was it 60 percent of the literature 478 1:01:02 --> 1:01:11 which he publishes is fake and retain his job that should be pointed out anyway thank you so 479 1:01:11 --> 1:01:20 much James well thank you so much Dr Stephen I didn't realize that um you are a veteran and 480 1:01:20 --> 1:01:29 thank you um for your service um and um I didn't realize you know that yeah I've got skin in the 481 1:01:29 --> 1:01:37 game I'm sorry to say it's sad PTSD I think a lot of us have it I know from what I've been through 482 1:01:37 --> 1:01:44 and I agree with you James it's very under underdiagnosed I need to understand it I found 483 1:01:45 --> 1:01:55 a book that was um um that somebody sent me and and I was on one of these large um talks and a 484 1:01:55 --> 1:02:03 former military officer and former I think a senator his name is Tim Murphy PhD and he sent 485 1:02:03 --> 1:02:08 me this book The Christ Cured and I've been kind of going through it it's a good book I think it's 486 1:02:08 --> 1:02:14 kind of me but you might check it out but there's so much in this world that's making everybody crazy 487 1:02:15 --> 1:02:22 um yes I agree so one of my questions for you James when you were talking I just trying to think 488 1:02:22 --> 1:02:30 of the broad picture you know um so um do you think that they deliberately um attempted to 489 1:02:30 --> 1:02:38 destabilize human beings in 2020 was it deliberate were they deliberately trying to instead of 490 1:02:38 --> 1:02:44 curing them from a so-called pandemic which in my opinion was this pandemic was they was the whole 491 1:02:44 --> 1:02:49 thing about destabilizing human beings so they could control human beings in the future and that 492 1:02:49 --> 1:02:57 was 2020 was if that's the case then we really need to expose these bastards I think that absolutely 493 1:02:57 --> 1:03:05 is the case yeah so you know as I've thought James I think huge numbers of human beings now 494 1:03:05 --> 1:03:15 are suffering from Stockholm syndrome they have not recovered from 2020 2021 2022 even people in 495 1:03:15 --> 1:03:23 this group that's exactly right and and I go back to prophet Isaiah in the Torah you know Isaiah 496 1:03:24 --> 1:03:31 is it chapter 5 verse 20 woe to those who call put evil for good and good for evil darkness for 497 1:03:31 --> 1:03:38 light and life for darkness and bitterness for food and food for bitterness there's you know 498 1:03:38 --> 1:03:45 too many people are just Greta Thornburgs they're just ignorant fools and they don't know their 499 1:03:45 --> 1:03:54 history they they don't know Jewish history they don't know world history they're just stupid they 500 1:03:54 --> 1:04:02 just listen to the masses you know and I'm sorry to ramble on this but my friend 501 1:04:04 --> 1:04:12 from Israel his name is Amir Sarfati I don't know him personally but I followed him he posted 502 1:04:12 --> 1:04:19 something the other day that profoundly affected me and I and I'll read it there's something this 503 1:04:19 --> 1:04:27 is the kind of shenanigans that are leading up to just cataclysmic end I think of this world 504 1:04:27 --> 1:04:32 that's actually prophesied but Amir said this there's something about Israel that makes people 505 1:04:32 --> 1:04:40 uncomfortable and it's not what they say it is they'll point to politics settlements borders 506 1:04:40 --> 1:04:47 and wars but scratch beneath the outrage you'll find something deeper a discomfort not with what 507 1:04:47 --> 1:04:56 Israel does but with what Israel is a nation this small should not be this strong period 508 1:04:57 --> 1:05:05 it has no oil no special natural resources a population barely the size of the mid-sized 509 1:05:05 --> 1:05:12 American city they're surrounded by enemies hated by the United Nations targeted for terror 510 1:05:12 --> 1:05:18 condemned by celebrities boycotted slandered and attacked and still they thrive like there's no 511 1:05:18 --> 1:05:26 tomorrow in military in medicine in security in technology in agriculture in intelligence 512 1:05:26 --> 1:05:36 in morality in sheer unbreakable will they turn desert into farmland they make water from the air 513 1:05:36 --> 1:05:44 they intercept rockets midair they rescue hostages under the nose of the world's worst regimes 514 1:05:44 --> 1:05:51 they survive wars that were supposed to wipe them out and win the world watches and this 515 1:05:51 --> 1:05:57 they can't make sense of it so they do what people do when they witness strength they can't 516 1:05:57 --> 1:06:04 understand they assume it must be cheating it must be American aid it must be foreign lobbying it 517 1:06:04 --> 1:06:11 must be oppression it must be theft it must be some dark trick that gave the Jews this kind of 518 1:06:11 --> 1:06:19 power it must be blackmail because heaven forbid if it's something else heaven forbid it's real 519 1:06:19 --> 1:06:26 heaven forbid it's earned or worse destined the Jewish people were supposed to disappear long 520 1:06:26 --> 1:06:34 long time ago that's how the story of exiled enslaved hated minorities is supposed to end 521 1:06:34 --> 1:06:41 but the Jews didn't disappear they actually came back home rebuilt the land 2000 years later 522 1:06:41 --> 1:06:50 revived their language and brought their dead back to life in memory in identity and in strength 523 1:06:50 --> 1:06:58 that's not normal that's not political it's biblical there's a whole cheat code that explains 524 1:06:58 --> 1:07:06 how a group of people returned to their homeland after 2000 years there's no rational path from 525 1:07:06 --> 1:07:12 gas chambers to global influence and there's no historical precedent for surviving Babylonians 526 1:07:12 --> 1:07:19 the Romans the crusaders the inquisition the pogroms and the holocaustians still showing up 527 1:07:19 --> 1:07:27 to work on Monday and Tel Aviv Israel doesn't make sense unless you believe in something beyond 528 1:07:27 --> 1:07:35 math this is what drives the world crazy because if Israel is real if this improbable ancient 529 1:07:35 --> 1:07:42 hated nation is somehow still chosen protected and thriving then maybe God isn't a myth after all 530 1:07:42 --> 1:07:49 maybe he's still the story maybe history isn't random maybe evil doesn't get the last word 531 1:07:50 --> 1:07:54 maybe the Jews are not just people but a testimony 532 1:07:56 --> 1:08:03 who wrote that yeah but this is the world we live in every nation now almost every nation 533 1:08:04 --> 1:08:11 as prophesied in Zechariah will be against Israel who wrote that the quote that that's 534 1:08:12 --> 1:08:22 that is written by an incredible former Israeli defense officer his name is Amir Sarfati 535 1:08:25 --> 1:08:32 and he lives near Jerusalem and so James I think it's gaslighting I think it's gaslighting the same 536 1:08:32 --> 1:08:40 with the Ukraine the ridiculous notion that Ukraine could ever beat Russia in a war and 537 1:08:40 --> 1:08:44 and you know everyone in the United Kingdom was invited to believe that within a week of the war 538 1:08:44 --> 1:08:50 starting Ukrainian flags were being flown in British gardens the first flag I've ever seen 539 1:08:50 --> 1:08:56 flown of any nationality the Ukrainian flag flying in British gardens within a week of the 540 1:08:56 --> 1:09:02 announcement of the start of that war in 22 and it's just ridiculous you know it was always 541 1:09:02 --> 1:09:09 ridiculous it's still ridiculous but Trump doesn't say what you've just said which this doesn't make 542 1:09:09 --> 1:09:17 sense about Israel it didn't make sense about Russia and Ukraine and it still doesn't anyway 543 1:09:17 --> 1:09:22 brilliant James thank you so much thank you for sharing thank you for sharing that James and 544 1:09:22 --> 1:09:30 Stephen thank you for the questions and amazing food for thought everybody what makes the world 545 1:09:30 --> 1:09:39 tick all right we've got lots of hands up Jim so we will go with one thing I wanted to bring to 546 1:09:39 --> 1:09:47 your attention in terms of our future and it relates to Jerome Corsi last week he announced to 547 1:09:47 --> 1:09:53 us that his next book would be on transhumanism and Avery Brinkley who was a regular attendee here 548 1:09:54 --> 1:10:02 he shared a piece and Paul Alexander published it this morning on the thread of AI and one of the 549 1:10:02 --> 1:10:11 geniuses behind AI says you know we're in serious danger from this so I'll put the link into it it's 550 1:10:11 --> 1:10:18 a very interesting proposition I've been saying it for 10 years and the question you know it's 551 1:10:18 --> 1:10:22 might be something that we talk about but Jerome was going to be talking about transhumanism 552 1:10:23 --> 1:10:30 in his next book those books three of his trilogy so I urge all of you to think about what 553 1:10:30 --> 1:10:39 the dangers of AI are and its self-assembling machinery capabilities which is certainly happening 554 1:10:40 --> 1:10:41 thank you Sebastian 555 1:10:44 --> 1:10:50 Dr Thorpe good evening again and thank you for your dissertation on the whole COVID experience 556 1:10:50 --> 1:10:56 which I think we do have to continually repeat because if we don't we're going to lose track of 557 1:10:56 --> 1:11:01 this but I would like to ask you if you've if you've ever gone on to other studies 558 1:11:01 --> 1:11:07 specifically I would like to refer to the this is not okay Charles Charles 559 1:11:10 --> 1:11:16 it is the the Robert Koch Institute which had a study of the of the influenza in Germany 560 1:11:16 --> 1:11:21 and it was strange because when COVID broke out I actually went into the data into the 561 1:11:21 --> 1:11:26 Robert Koch Institute I also read a lot of information that they were giving out 562 1:11:26 --> 1:11:33 and some of it you can't attain anymore and specifically the year 2017 to 2018 Germany did 563 1:11:33 --> 1:11:42 have an extreme influenza outbreak and we had all in all we had three hundred and thirty three 564 1:11:42 --> 1:11:49 thousand plus cases of which the death rate was within I'd like to emphasize this within three 565 1:11:49 --> 1:11:59 months 1665 deaths where I'm now looking at the data that we're seeing for 2022 2023 as well as 566 1:11:59 --> 1:12:12 from 2019 to 2020 etc etc just 22 to 23 we had 292 300 plus and only 1026 deaths so I do have to 567 1:12:12 --> 1:12:18 ask myself when did this really start is it really COVID I don't think so and if so it I 568 1:12:18 --> 1:12:23 believe personally that it's a biological weapon but were you able to get gather data from other 569 1:12:23 --> 1:12:31 countries considering that Germany is 83 million plus so roughly a quarter of the U.S. population 570 1:12:31 --> 1:12:35 a significant amount of data right there considering the size of the country also 571 1:12:35 --> 1:12:36 So 572 1:12:38 --> 1:12:44 great question Dr. Sebastian. No not doctor thank you but not doctor. 573 1:12:45 --> 1:12:54 Well it's a great question nonetheless and we we have published on the metrics of around the world 574 1:12:54 --> 1:13:01 of many different countries and and we looked at many different outcomes including 575 1:13:02 --> 1:13:12 the tests per capita the deaths per capita the diagnosis of COVID-19 576 1:13:14 --> 1:13:24 viral illness per capita and you know I can I can drop that into the chat but it's very interesting 577 1:13:24 --> 1:13:36 because it does I believe maybe support your hypothesis in that what we found was that 578 1:13:37 --> 1:13:45 the more you tested the more cases of COVID you have the more you tested the more people 579 1:13:45 --> 1:13:51 have done so I think that from that study and I'll put that in the chart 580 1:13:53 --> 1:14:01 and my research group published that in 2022 I think it was 2022 but you know you bring up 581 1:14:02 --> 1:14:09 a very interesting point I try to study as much as read as much as I can but remember I'm an OBG 582 1:14:09 --> 1:14:16 high-risk OBGYN doctor and and I do you know this is my area of expertise I'm I'm still 583 1:14:16 --> 1:14:24 practicing now for 46 years so I feel very qualified to talk about stuff in my wheelhouse 584 1:14:25 --> 1:14:32 you know um yes I publish outside of my wheelhouse and I study outside of my wheelhouse but 585 1:14:32 --> 1:14:39 I don't think that I have your expertise I will say that I I followed a lot of people 586 1:14:39 --> 1:14:45 in the world that I have tremendous amount of respect for I'll name some of them off I think 587 1:14:45 --> 1:14:55 some of them have presented here Dr. Anna Mihalsha MD PhD you know Denis Van Kloet many that take a 588 1:14:55 --> 1:15:04 viewpoint of you know the respiratory virus was not real or even further extreme there's no such 589 1:15:04 --> 1:15:12 thing as viruses and you know I respect people on both sides of that argument my own bias is that 590 1:15:12 --> 1:15:17 it's hard for me to get away from the fact that in my reality in my world there are viruses 591 1:15:19 --> 1:15:26 and I I won't go into all the details but it's a it's a really really great question and 592 1:15:26 --> 1:15:33 unfortunately I don't have the answer to it and the same can be said by the way for this 593 1:15:34 --> 1:15:48 self-replicating um um I'll say units of computer devices at the basic level within your blood after 594 1:15:48 --> 1:15:59 the vaccine I respect several who will stake their life on it and several who say it's all 595 1:16:00 --> 1:16:05 made up and it's all artifact you know and and both people have been on this program 596 1:16:06 --> 1:16:09 I I can't make a decision where I lie because I don't know 597 1:16:09 --> 1:16:12 um 598 1:16:12 --> 1:16:20 okay well thank you very much James so Sebastian or Zahriel is from the Durand and he can arrange 599 1:16:20 --> 1:16:25 for you to be interviewed if you wish by the Durand it's very influential it's I don't think 600 1:16:25 --> 1:16:31 it's big in numbers but they've got the brilliant Alexander Mercouris there um 601 1:16:32 --> 1:16:36 well I that's just one of them isn't it Sebastian but anyway maybe you can 602 1:16:36 --> 1:16:43 uh send an email to me uh Sebastian I'll pass it to James sure okay thank you all right thank 603 1:16:43 --> 1:16:53 you Sebastian okay Albert baby our vares man uh thank you gosh we got we got the A team here 604 1:16:54 --> 1:17:02 and I apologize to the audience up front but uh uh Dr Thorpe is is like my big brother 605 1:17:02 --> 1:17:09 my big brother so I call him Jimbo so how you doing Jimbo I'm doing great Albert thank you 606 1:17:10 --> 1:17:17 so my question my first uh quick question was I put a couple of images in the um in the comments 607 1:17:17 --> 1:17:23 section and it had to do with uh PRR and I know you're familiar with it uh these images and I 608 1:17:23 --> 1:17:32 know that I showed you a one time working um um with uh Stephen Rubin the creator of medalerts.org 609 1:17:32 --> 1:17:41 who came out with a PRR tool uh that was um got a lot of help from Wayne at varesanalysis.info 610 1:17:41 --> 1:17:50 for that and but I bring all that up because as you know the medra codes aka the symptoms which 611 1:17:50 --> 1:18:00 aren't technically ICD-10 codes um we always talk about the lowest level of medra codes aka symptoms 612 1:18:00 --> 1:18:07 but it there's actually five levels that rolls all the way up to organ class and when you do 613 1:18:07 --> 1:18:16 analysis at organ class you can clearly see that the reproductive system and breast disorders 614 1:18:16 --> 1:18:27 organ class jumps up to number one by far um beyond endocrine and cardiac whatever they have 615 1:18:27 --> 1:18:33 defined as all these different uh organ classes what organ class was it that stood out again that 616 1:18:34 --> 1:18:40 which reproductive system and breast disorders was the number one organ class 617 1:18:40 --> 1:18:47 male and female male and female wow I was not aware of that yeah so the question was 618 1:18:49 --> 1:18:54 would you be interested somewhere down the line to put out a paper kind of like what you're doing 619 1:18:54 --> 1:19:04 already with these PRRs but to show the PRRs at at every level especially the highest level organ 620 1:19:04 --> 1:19:12 class because what's happening at least in the VAERS data is that these miscarriages and fetal 621 1:19:12 --> 1:19:20 demises are so discounted by the definition of what VAERS says is considered a serious adverse 622 1:19:20 --> 1:19:29 event which is basically hospitalization and above so a lot of these demises like miscarriage they 623 1:19:29 --> 1:19:34 don't rise to that level and they get discounted because they're they're considered not serious so 624 1:19:34 --> 1:19:41 not serious miscarriage and that's why you can't really see it but when you do it at the PRR 625 1:19:42 --> 1:19:49 fifth level organ class all of it it just jumps out and sticks out like a sore thumb 626 1:19:50 --> 1:19:58 I'd be fascinated to work with you on that um I'd be you know you're way above my area of expertise 627 1:19:58 --> 1:20:08 in VAERS as you are the rest of the world not not real not really I will say this with regard to the 628 1:20:08 --> 1:20:16 PRR you know I've started relabeling in our most current paper remember in the paper that you and I 629 1:20:17 --> 1:20:26 first um in 2003 with Mike Descovich the PhD DOD right you won't mind me calling him out now 630 1:20:26 --> 1:20:34 but remember we went through this incredibly sophisticated process using Monte Carlo simulations 631 1:20:34 --> 1:20:41 we used the Poisson e distribution to compare disproportionality but we called it a PRR 632 1:20:41 --> 1:20:47 and in many experts eyes that's fine it's one in the same but in other experts eyes it's not so 633 1:20:47 --> 1:20:54 remember in that paper we did it we did the Poisson regression and the Poisson e test of 634 1:20:54 --> 1:21:01 disproportionality although we followed it a PRR it was the same whether we did an adverse event 635 1:21:01 --> 1:21:08 per shot adverse event per person vaccinated or adverse event per time so in the paper subsequent 636 1:21:08 --> 1:21:15 to that that by the way you have been an author on I think Julie Threat was an author on it 637 1:21:15 --> 1:21:27 um God bless her I hope she's doing well um but we um we only use the PRR or um we only use the 638 1:21:27 --> 1:21:36 distribution per time because if you do it per shot and per person vaccinated it was so thousands 639 1:21:36 --> 1:21:43 of hours so that's a proxy but I've spoken to a lot of experts so many different opinions I spoke 640 1:21:43 --> 1:21:49 with Martin Koldorf now that's on ASAP and he goes you know Jim it's probably best to call that 641 1:21:50 --> 1:21:56 an odds ratio per time rather than PRR which I think that's good so that's what we've done on 642 1:21:58 --> 1:22:02 on our paper um subsequent papers but I'd love to work on this project with you 643 1:22:04 --> 1:22:12 and so with the PRR if you remember it was Zach Stibert the journalist from the Epoch Times who 644 1:22:12 --> 1:22:20 got that FOIA of the PRR information from the CDC and then when he got it he somehow worked with 645 1:22:20 --> 1:22:27 Josh Getscow and Josh Getscow through Substack and his social media presence got that information 646 1:22:27 --> 1:22:38 out and um with that uh I like Josh Getscow myself uh I do too found him in the beginning and um 647 1:22:39 --> 1:22:45 might be too much information but he's he's also a San Jose kid and his father still practices 648 1:22:45 --> 1:22:51 still practices here in San Jose so I knew that he was he was on our show you shared that with me 649 1:22:52 --> 1:22:58 yeah good so I hope to I hope to meet him next time he's in he's in town um and I actually pulled 650 1:22:58 --> 1:23:04 out this this book here which you can't really see this is my advertisement this is the Santa 651 1:23:04 --> 1:23:10 Clara County Medical Association physician directory back in 2002 I'm getting long in the 652 1:23:10 --> 1:23:18 tooth when I had a billing company and Josh's dad's picture is in is in this book oh wow 653 1:23:19 --> 1:23:25 anyways that's all I got Jimbo God bless you all right thanks Albert good job 654 1:23:26 --> 1:23:33 okay Julie you've been unwell yep went into the hospital hey there hi Jim hi my 655 1:23:33 --> 1:23:38 best friend in the plant he's the most amazing guy you you know God bless you I'm so uh sorry 656 1:23:38 --> 1:23:43 to hear all the travesty you've been through yeah I tell you these uh these vaccines just keep on 657 1:23:43 --> 1:23:49 giving and um you know this anemia that I suffered major blood loss my my hemoglobin was 2.4 they 658 1:23:49 --> 1:23:54 said I should have been dead so thank God for a strong heart but um I appreciate your support 659 1:23:55 --> 1:24:01 got me off the road so I'm not on the road with Ron today but I am fighting the pharmacy industrial 660 1:24:01 --> 1:24:07 complex as you know because CVS here in Chico after I got out of the hospital decided to 661 1:24:07 --> 1:24:14 withhold my two medications the hospital prescribed because I was anti-vaccine I literally 662 1:24:14 --> 1:24:19 read that to my face yeah and you should sue them yeah so I'm going to the California State 663 1:24:19 --> 1:24:24 Border Pharmacy and I filed a complaint there but anyway enough about me um I two questions for you 664 1:24:24 --> 1:24:31 so you know my daughter um who's of childbearing age her menstrual problems really started back in 665 1:24:31 --> 1:24:37 eighth grade with the HPV shot the Gardasil shot which again did so much damage not only to her 666 1:24:37 --> 1:24:43 ovaries but her entire eighth grade soccer team she was an elite athlete all came down with 667 1:24:43 --> 1:24:50 exercise-induced asthma right after that you know required HPV shot for eighth grade entry so my 668 1:24:50 --> 1:24:55 question for you and again I was pro-vaccine until these two shots of Moderna destroyed me 669 1:24:55 --> 1:25:01 and four shots killed my mother and then once I got fired for refusing a booster I started 670 1:25:01 --> 1:25:07 researching everything and now I'm a vaccine abolitionist so um I'm finding that these poor 671 1:25:07 --> 1:25:12 young people these these women and and pregnant women they're still under assault by other 672 1:25:12 --> 1:25:16 vaccines can you just confirm that there's just not a one that any pregnant woman should take 673 1:25:17 --> 1:25:25 1000% no pregnant women should take any vaccines not a one I mean they're pushing the Tdap on the 674 1:25:25 --> 1:25:31 third trimester it's just absurd it's just so upsetting but um you're absolutely right I I you 675 1:25:31 --> 1:25:38 know maybe one possible exception you know I could even think of but still it's not proven safe or 676 1:25:38 --> 1:25:46 effective and that would be if a woman became pregnant and had a baby and had a baby and had 677 1:25:46 --> 1:25:55 pregnant and she didn't have a spleen one could make an argument that she is at risk for dying 678 1:25:55 --> 1:26:02 from pneumococcal pneumonia and should get the pneumobacteria that's that's the only exception 679 1:26:02 --> 1:26:08 there's there's no doubt us to say it's safe or effective in that regard yeah it's just absurd I 680 1:26:08 --> 1:26:14 just you know I um you know recently Dr. Mulholland came out and said that I guess Trump and RFK Jr. 681 1:26:14 --> 1:26:18 are close to pulling the COVID vaccine off the market we're all skeptical right and we're all 682 1:26:18 --> 1:26:24 like yeah really seriously close every single day people are dying from this shot it should be pulled 683 1:26:24 --> 1:26:31 day you know today but my second question is your your association of ob-gyn's right who are just 684 1:26:32 --> 1:26:38 defying all logic and continuing to push these shots as is the as the pediatricians how do you 685 1:26:38 --> 1:26:45 tackle taking that association either down on who's in charge of it how do we get that group 686 1:26:45 --> 1:26:48 you know basically disbanded if at all possible and thank you for your time today 687 1:26:49 --> 1:26:55 well thank you so much and I'm praying for you Julie you're an incredible warrior with all these 688 1:26:55 --> 1:27:03 health departments you're showing up to with um you know I just keep speaking the truth and um I 689 1:27:03 --> 1:27:13 got to give Maggie my wife the credit um for um really slapping ACOG silly with her freedom of 690 1:27:13 --> 1:27:19 information and at request because she proved they were corrupt she proved we proved I helped her 691 1:27:19 --> 1:27:25 craft that request they didn't know who we were back then they should have done their homework 692 1:27:25 --> 1:27:30 they certainly should have done their homework with Maggie figuring out she was an attorney that had 693 1:27:30 --> 1:27:38 busted some very large global companies for fraud um and and so but they didn't and they spilled 694 1:27:38 --> 1:27:47 the beans um the only way we can take them down you know they're defying uh RFK J. Bhattacharya 695 1:27:47 --> 1:27:54 and Marty Macri declaration you know that we no longer recommend COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy 696 1:27:54 --> 1:28:02 thank you Jesus you know six days after I testified in the synod as to such I don't know 697 1:28:02 --> 1:28:07 if it was related to that but I was elated to hear it but you know the American Academy of 698 1:28:07 --> 1:28:13 Pediatrics the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology the American College of Ob Obstetricians 699 1:28:13 --> 1:28:19 in Gynecology and the Society of Maternal-Fetal Medicine are basically giving their middle finger 700 1:28:20 --> 1:28:28 to RFK Junior uh Macri Marty Macri and J. Bhattacharya and you know they didn't even put it up on their 701 1:28:28 --> 1:28:36 website so all their underlings this is why it's hard to clean the swamp up you know um Dan Bacino 702 1:28:36 --> 1:28:40 he can't go in there and clean everybody out because he's got everybody all the underlings 703 1:28:40 --> 1:28:46 that were put in by the last administration that are blind and spiritually deaf they can't see 704 1:28:46 --> 1:28:52 they can't see truth God has put scales over their eyes you know they they they still 705 1:28:53 --> 1:28:59 think that there's your whatever gender you want to be these organizations my organizations won't 706 1:28:59 --> 1:29:06 allow us to publish pregnant woman it has to be pregnant person I mean this is their level of 707 1:29:06 --> 1:29:10 delusion and it's like right out of Romans one 708 1:29:12 --> 1:29:18 thanks Julie yes it's a pregnant person hey there we go Jim 709 1:29:21 --> 1:29:22 and then Vera 710 1:29:29 --> 1:29:33 hey Jim Jim take your time 711 1:29:36 --> 1:29:43 my 712 1:29:47 --> 1:29:58 uh is that better let's try that better let's try okay um so uh Jim I put in I sent you a text and 713 1:29:58 --> 1:30:05 I put it in the chat a article written up from Israel about increasing fertility are you familiar 714 1:30:05 --> 1:30:14 with that article I am not familiar with the article I plead ignorance okay take a look at 715 1:30:14 --> 1:30:20 it I texted it to you in case you can't find it in the chat um it's a it's a study showing 716 1:30:20 --> 1:30:28 increasing relative fertility in Israel and um understanding Albert Borla is a veterinarian 717 1:30:29 --> 1:30:34 who specializes in immunocastration castrating with a series of vaccines 718 1:30:35 --> 1:30:45 is um yeah could the could this infertility as seems to be uh well fertility seems to be increasing 719 1:30:45 --> 1:30:51 among certain groups in Israel and decreasing among others is there a Jim Jim I'm sorry to 720 1:30:51 --> 1:30:58 interrupt yet because I'm not hearing really well are are you are you saying that infertility is 721 1:30:58 --> 1:31:06 increasing no I'm saying fertility is increasing in certain groups and decreasing in others 722 1:31:07 --> 1:31:12 that's interesting I mean you're familiar with you're familiar with the study from 723 1:31:13 --> 1:31:23 Czechoslovakia right by right by Menas if you could send to me I'd appreciate it because you 724 1:31:23 --> 1:31:27 know there's so many studies and I don't know that I recognize one from Czechoslovakia I just 725 1:31:28 --> 1:31:34 so I hopefully will be a little more accurate but I'll but I want you to take a look at that article 726 1:31:34 --> 1:31:39 because it shows increasing fertility among certain people and my question is about ACE2 727 1:31:39 --> 1:31:48 receptor mediated infertility ACE2 receptor mediated infertility um the ACE2 receptors are 728 1:31:48 --> 1:31:57 highest per square centimeter in men's testicles and there are high ACE2 receptors I believe 729 1:31:57 --> 1:32:03 in women's ovaries and this made me the and the ACE2 receptors are on the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein 730 1:32:03 --> 1:32:13 is this the is the ACE2 receptor the mediated uh position from which the spike protein attacks 731 1:32:13 --> 1:32:22 fertility Jim that is such an incredible question but nobody knows other than God 732 1:32:23 --> 1:32:29 this is exactly the kind of stuff we're trying to focus on in the advanced biological research 733 1:32:29 --> 1:32:35 group abrg.org such an incredible question but nobody has the answer to it and nobody 734 1:32:35 --> 1:32:41 I think the research on I think they have and I think the people who invented the SARS-CoV-2 spike 735 1:32:41 --> 1:32:49 protein know and because you run these tests on supercomputers beforehand protein synthesis and 736 1:32:49 --> 1:32:57 things like that I'll talk to you offline about uh about that and maybe I can suggest some questions 737 1:32:57 --> 1:33:03 with you and Dr. Hatfield about how you could find out and how you can possibly inquire 738 1:33:04 --> 1:33:09 to the intelligence agencies who may know more than they are letting on 739 1:33:11 --> 1:33:18 my um and I have if I may I will ask another question no is this is this Jim Thomas 740 1:33:19 --> 1:33:27 yes ah okay gotcha it's a great question Jim and and then the other question is about 741 1:33:28 --> 1:33:34 alternatives to vaccines we're telling these women that we shouldn't they they possibly 742 1:33:34 --> 1:33:39 shouldn't get vaccinated because the dangers of these vaccines I agree with that but we need to 743 1:33:39 --> 1:33:46 give them alternatives and I'm suggesting as you have heard me before nitrizoxinide 744 1:33:47 --> 1:33:56 as a medication that clears hepatitis b and hepatitis c it's an anti-parasitic that is also 745 1:33:56 --> 1:34:03 a broad spectrum antiviral stops the replication of measles stops the replication of Ebola stops 746 1:34:03 --> 1:34:10 the replication of chikunga virus shouldn't we be off and is safe and by the way is safe 747 1:34:11 --> 1:34:20 not only in pregnant women but in infants shouldn't we be offering nitrizoxinide as a 748 1:34:20 --> 1:34:30 possible alternative to these vaccines even before people test positive for infections even before 749 1:34:30 --> 1:34:36 they test positive for Ebola if they have symptoms treat it first while you're testing or while you're 750 1:34:36 --> 1:34:42 waiting for the test to get back what are your thoughts on nitrizoxinide as a early treatment 751 1:34:42 --> 1:34:50 and prophylaxis I'd never be comfortable with using it in pregnancy but I think some um if you 752 1:34:50 --> 1:34:57 can show me safety data in pregnancy there's none that I could find and I'm really I won't even use 753 1:34:57 --> 1:35:04 natural substances in pregnancy because you know the fetus going from you know the flash of light 754 1:35:04 --> 1:35:13 at the time of conception to the 64 cell stage the morilla and you know and then you start dividing 755 1:35:13 --> 1:35:22 off into the three germ lines you know the ectoderm mesoderm endoderm and on you go this is the most 756 1:35:22 --> 1:35:31 fragile the most delicate the most vulnerable artwork of God and it's the most vulnerable to 757 1:35:31 --> 1:35:37 any substances and this is why we don't let pregnant women eat sushi or drink alcohol 758 1:35:38 --> 1:35:47 so I'm not comfortable even with dandelion root there's no studies showing me safety listen I can 759 1:35:47 --> 1:35:55 tell you I can show you a lot of natural substances that that are allegedly safe in general population 760 1:35:55 --> 1:36:00 but are very dangerous for pregnant women so you know it's the same thing with natokinase 761 1:36:01 --> 1:36:07 I'm not comfortable God forbid it might be helpful but I'm not comfortable with natokinase 762 1:36:08 --> 1:36:14 or even large doses of bromelain in pregnancy thank you and I'll give you the doc I don't have 763 1:36:14 --> 1:36:20 the documentation on pregnancy I if I said that I misspoke I had the documentation on 764 1:36:20 --> 1:36:28 inf use of nitrozoxin and infants and and the use of nitrozoxin and of course we have the 765 1:36:28 --> 1:36:37 documented use of hydroxychloroquine in pregnancy and that is proved to be very stable and and they 766 1:36:37 --> 1:36:45 say not enough of a good thing so see I could pick out your last name not having it written on 767 1:36:45 --> 1:36:51 the screen because I know your brilliant questions Jim you're very kind and so thank you very much 768 1:36:51 --> 1:36:58 for answering and I'll get you some more documentation thanks thanks Jim Vera 769 1:36:59 --> 1:37:06 haven't seen you for a while lovely to see you very nice I'm really glad that I attended this 770 1:37:06 --> 1:37:13 particular presentation because it was very very reassuring in a certain way in particular I I like 771 1:37:13 --> 1:37:20 the way you described how you spoke to the family the parents of this 15 year old this is terribly 772 1:37:20 --> 1:37:28 important because it's one thing for scientists and doctors to talk to each other and to argue 773 1:37:28 --> 1:37:38 about details finesse and develop their theories however what we really need is to assure the public 774 1:37:39 --> 1:37:50 that they can make decisions life changing decisions life protecting decisions and that 775 1:37:50 --> 1:37:58 you don't need experts they have been told over and over listen to the experts and who were the 776 1:37:58 --> 1:38:07 experts well you delineated the the various establishment experts none of them are to be 777 1:38:07 --> 1:38:15 trusted none now when I first and I'm not a scientist I'm not a lawyer I'm a survivor 778 1:38:15 --> 1:38:23 which gives me tremendous antenna and I know history and when COVID was first announced and 779 1:38:23 --> 1:38:33 declared you know this great pandemic and I looked at what they were actually doing I recognized T4 780 1:38:34 --> 1:38:41 and sure enough and I live in New York City early on what Governor Cuomo did 781 1:38:41 --> 1:38:49 was issue a mass murder order yep okay and you have no idea how people within the so-called 782 1:38:49 --> 1:38:55 freedom movement oh no Vera you can't say that how can you say that they they didn't know they 783 1:38:55 --> 1:39:00 didn't oh yes they did and now this is what I really want to emphasize and you have a bit too 784 1:39:01 --> 1:39:10 which is everything that's been done and the organs targeted are bio weapons and they're 785 1:39:10 --> 1:39:20 bio weapon let's just it's never been anything but bio weapon the point is that they realize that 786 1:39:20 --> 1:39:27 they've gotten to the point in their plan and there is a they it's an international and they've 787 1:39:27 --> 1:39:33 told us I mean actually Klaus Schwab told us you know we need to get rid of populations Bill Gates 788 1:39:33 --> 1:39:42 says it all the time and has been doing it in Africa yes vaccines as bio weapon we really need 789 1:39:42 --> 1:39:49 to understand that you know and and you've stressed it quite a bit and I'm really glad especially the 790 1:39:49 --> 1:39:59 OBGN because you're at the very heart of does the you know do we the population the human population 791 1:39:59 --> 1:40:06 do we survive what they plan is not for us to survive and this is the hardest thing for most 792 1:40:07 --> 1:40:15 good people to accept people cannot believe in evil that other people can really plan evil well 793 1:40:15 --> 1:40:23 yes they can and the reason that they've gotten so far it is because nobody is held accountable 794 1:40:24 --> 1:40:35 there were show trials in Germany after World War II but no those were not the major World War II 795 1:40:35 --> 1:40:46 financiers and profiteers and none of them were even mentioned and the same clan the same people 796 1:40:47 --> 1:40:53 with all those German scientists that were snuck into the United States and taught 797 1:40:54 --> 1:41:00 the doctors and scientists at the highest level institutions Harvard Yale the whole bit 798 1:41:01 --> 1:41:08 how to do it the Nazi way operation paperclip right correct that's right but it's more than that 799 1:41:08 --> 1:41:17 it really because nobody has ever been punished for what they do that's right that is the problem 800 1:41:17 --> 1:41:23 and you know really for a while everybody was only the pharmaceuticals but no the 801 1:41:23 --> 1:41:29 pharmaceuticals could not have gotten the entire western world to go along with the COVID 802 1:41:30 --> 1:41:38 lockdown or anything else it's the doctors people are you know they it's more than instinct 803 1:41:38 --> 1:41:45 it's been led to believe always doctor knows best listen to your doctor and as you have 804 1:41:45 --> 1:41:51 yourself suffered by this by standing up and and steadying your mind 805 1:41:53 --> 1:41:58 this is what if more doctors would have done it the whole thing would have been dead like that 806 1:42:00 --> 1:42:07 all it needed you know now it's it's interesting because I've been dealing with this for a very 807 1:42:07 --> 1:42:13 long time initially when I first got involved and I heard the term clinical trial controlled 808 1:42:13 --> 1:42:19 clinical trials and I said oh yeah whoever pays for it controls it and I was told no theory you 809 1:42:19 --> 1:42:23 don't understand and I got a whole you know lecture about what are controlled clinical trials well 810 1:42:23 --> 1:42:32 here we are 25 years later and guess what exactly he who pays for them controls it and controls the 811 1:42:32 --> 1:42:38 literature completely and not only that you might also mention that the literature the way that 812 1:42:38 --> 1:42:45 works it's a scam the people who are the peer reviewers are the ones who have similar articles 813 1:42:45 --> 1:42:54 in you know ready to also be so each one is working the field for the other because they're 814 1:42:54 --> 1:43:02 all in it together and it's I once gave a talk at a conference where Marcia Angel was there this was 815 1:43:02 --> 1:43:11 before she came out with her very famous editorial and at that time when she heard what I told about 816 1:43:11 --> 1:43:18 what was being done to children in psychiatric research she was so horrified she said that's so 817 1:43:18 --> 1:43:26 ugly that's so ugly she couldn't believe it just ask Peter Bregan I know I mean I'm right yes but 818 1:43:26 --> 1:43:35 you see psychiatry led it in Germany Nazi Germany that was the lead lead medical people and they've 819 1:43:35 --> 1:43:44 you know their ethos has spread now to even pediatricians what could be what could be a worse 820 1:43:45 --> 1:43:53 betrayal of that doctor trust part of it has to do with public health I think that we really need to 821 1:43:54 --> 1:44:00 rethink what the heck is public health that's right all that money all that power 822 1:44:02 --> 1:44:09 public health who does it trump does it trump does it is it more important than a physician 823 1:44:09 --> 1:44:15 patient relationship no it should never trump a physician patient relationship ever that's but 824 1:44:15 --> 1:44:21 that's what they told you don't listen to right listen to the experts your doctor is not an expert 825 1:44:21 --> 1:44:28 doctors essentially though if truth be told and I you know I happen to have been in a profession 826 1:44:28 --> 1:44:35 that no longer exists so I have a degree in librarian library science that doesn't exist 827 1:44:35 --> 1:44:40 anymore since everyone does things on their own on the internet you know and so it meant that all 828 1:44:40 --> 1:44:49 the faculties had to learn to type before that they didn't it's kind of cute but really this is 829 1:44:49 --> 1:44:56 you know this is a whole profession going down doctors have gone along with government edicts 830 1:44:56 --> 1:45:03 and those electronic records are now and you know this is no more doctor patient 831 1:45:03 --> 1:45:09 relationship at all there's no that's right no more confidentiality none of it 832 1:45:11 --> 1:45:17 that changed everything really and the fact that doctors can no longer afford to be in their own 833 1:45:17 --> 1:45:26 practice and they're all being swept into hospitals that's right Vera then it is the lawyer at the 834 1:45:26 --> 1:45:33 hospital who dictates what you do not no more professional judgment that's right totally 835 1:45:33 --> 1:45:40 eliminated and so you know nurse practitioners are at least 10 times less costly 836 1:45:43 --> 1:45:51 end of story you don't need doctors and doctors are embracing medicine through the internet 837 1:45:51 --> 1:46:02 I mean you don't even want to be near a patient it's it's going in other words the shots are a 838 1:46:02 --> 1:46:09 major weapon which they worked on very you know methodically but it's but the the mindset the 839 1:46:09 --> 1:46:16 fact that they've controlled people's way of thinking not to question not to question just 840 1:46:16 --> 1:46:20 to accept if government tells you to do just do it don't ask questions 841 1:46:23 --> 1:46:31 yep well said Vera and the same thing in Australia in 1975 when Medicare was introduced I was a tax 842 1:46:31 --> 1:46:36 lawyer at the time income of doctors went through the roof they all had tax problems so I was helping 843 1:46:36 --> 1:46:43 them minimize their tax but that's when medicine ceased to be medicine and became a menage à trois 844 1:46:43 --> 1:46:50 between between the drug dealer called a doctor the patient and the government and you know 845 1:46:50 --> 1:46:57 and that's the doctor that generation so it's 1975 so we're talking 50 years ago this year that that 846 1:46:57 --> 1:47:03 system came in in Australia so absolutely correct follow the protocol follow the system as we've 847 1:47:03 --> 1:47:08 often talked about here and the lawyers get involved as Jim knows with Maggie his wife being a 848 1:47:08 --> 1:47:13 lawyer you know you don't follow the protocol if the hospital doesn't follow the protocol bang the 849 1:47:13 --> 1:47:18 lawyers are in big time Jim just one question can I get in touch with you directly do you have 850 1:47:19 --> 1:47:28 are you putting your contact I'd love to talk to you I'll I'll I'll write you right now in the 851 1:47:28 --> 1:47:33 chat and give you my cell phone number okay thank you very much thank you James you know that Vera 852 1:47:33 --> 1:47:43 is a Holocaust survivor don't you um I I didn't remember that yeah she was in a concentration 853 1:47:43 --> 1:47:49 camp at the age of seven isn't that right Vera three and a half three and a half sorry 854 1:47:51 --> 1:47:57 it's a whole story but yes so she knows about medical ethics going wrong and she knows about 855 1:47:57 --> 1:48:03 the Nuremberg code she knows about the the doctor's trial in Nuremberg and and as a result of that 856 1:48:03 --> 1:48:11 and they were American prosecutors James they're um rightly so uh I'm glad they but they seem to 857 1:48:11 --> 1:48:20 have forgotten so seven doctors were hanged on the second of June 1948 for human medical experimentation 858 1:48:22 --> 1:48:27 and the Nuremberg code came out of that and everybody is saying briefing against the Nuremberg 859 1:48:27 --> 1:48:33 code because guess what there are 10 points there about medical ethics including most importantly 860 1:48:34 --> 1:48:40 informed consent which it goes on about at length but then they came in with the Helsinki 861 1:48:40 --> 1:48:46 declarations they watered it down and then everybody said oh doesn't matter but the Nuremberg 862 1:48:46 --> 1:48:54 code was indirigible as far as any doctor was concerned that was the intention Nuremberg code 863 1:48:54 --> 1:48:59 is like the 10 commandments essentially you can't change a word it's part absolutely legal 864 1:48:59 --> 1:49:06 decision and nobody ever questioned it so that's that and Helsinki you can change any time of the 865 1:49:06 --> 1:49:11 day absolutely yeah but the Nuremberg code is always the Nuremberg code you can't amend the 866 1:49:11 --> 1:49:20 Nuremberg code that was the intention yeah thank you so much Vera thank you thank you Vera we'll 867 1:49:20 --> 1:49:24 make sure and Jim I'll send you through Vera's two presentations to this group I'll send you 868 1:49:24 --> 1:49:30 the links Jim so you can thank you what's Vera in action Vera I just sent you my cell phone number 869 1:49:30 --> 1:49:38 on the chat thank you all right Mark and Stephen I've got to go onto a radio I'm being interviewed 870 1:49:38 --> 1:49:45 on radio in about two minutes so sure I'll take over Charles it's okay Mark over to you good luck 871 1:49:45 --> 1:49:52 to you thank you thank you Jim thank you very much for a wonderful presentation 872 1:49:53 --> 1:50:02 great story what I'd like to ask is you mentioned and I'd like to have it on record you you mentioned 873 1:50:02 --> 1:50:10 that pregnant women should not be having anything my daughter was pressurized and unfortunately she 874 1:50:10 --> 1:50:18 agreed to have the whooping cough vaccine not once but twice each each time she became pregnant 875 1:50:18 --> 1:50:25 she had the whooping cough vaccine what I'd like to know or first of all is confirmation that 876 1:50:25 --> 1:50:35 nobody that should not have actually happened and secondly what symptoms could she actually 877 1:50:36 --> 1:50:43 be suffering from because she does seem to be getting ill more often she's not COVID 878 1:50:43 --> 1:50:53 vaccine you know she sorry it's not a vaccine she didn't take the COVID jabs but this she it seems 879 1:50:53 --> 1:51:04 to be having problems after having these whooping cough jabs she I've reviewed all the literature 880 1:51:04 --> 1:51:13 in pregnancy on the whooping cough that is pertussis in the United States it can only be given 881 1:51:13 --> 1:51:20 what a great bonanza for the unscrupulous pharmaceutical companies it can't be separated 882 1:51:20 --> 1:51:30 in the United States America from dpt from diphtheria in tetanus it's given three and 883 1:51:30 --> 1:51:38 it's an abomination it the science is fake it was all jerry-rigged pharmaceutical publications 884 1:51:38 --> 1:51:45 there's no long-term follow-up and by the way there's there is no credible data suggesting 885 1:51:46 --> 1:51:54 even outside of pregnancy that the pertussis vaccine reduced the number of deaths from whooping 886 1:51:54 --> 1:52:02 cough that I'm aware of you know I look at turtles all the way down vaccine science and myth so now 887 1:52:04 --> 1:52:11 I think the second question you have it it's really impossible for me to tell you what myriad 888 1:52:11 --> 1:52:18 thousands of potential symptoms she could have suffered from taking the dpt I just know that 889 1:52:18 --> 1:52:19 it's pseudoscience 890 1:52:23 --> 1:52:30 right thank you very much great question thank you very much jim thanks so james it looks as I 891 1:52:30 --> 1:52:37 need to find some questions for you so um uh but I do encourage people to ask questions because 892 1:52:37 --> 1:52:42 you come from uh different places you have different perceptions we all have different 893 1:52:42 --> 1:52:49 perceptions and um and much of the time we don't realize this and we need to trust ourselves so 894 1:52:49 --> 1:52:56 if you have questions and you're curious you've got someone you've got a leader here to ask on 895 1:52:56 --> 1:53:02 he's on the right side of 50 I think um you know anyone who uh is going to be followed by the public 896 1:53:03 --> 1:53:12 is going to be on the right side of 50 uh ie older because that's the way in all functioning 897 1:53:12 --> 1:53:20 societies things work um and and we know that james is authentic we know that he's uh trustworthy so 898 1:53:20 --> 1:53:24 yes that doesn't mean he's going to be right about everything so jim I don't think you're 899 1:53:24 --> 1:53:31 you would claim to be right about everything all the time but yeah people are as I said to you on 900 1:53:31 --> 1:53:39 the phone yesterday james I noticed that people are completely lost they have no values they don't 901 1:53:39 --> 1:53:45 go to church in the united kingdom they don't know the 10 commandments they don't know anything they 902 1:53:45 --> 1:53:53 don't know their history they don't know the world map they don't know how many states are in america 903 1:53:53 --> 1:54:00 but when I was at school I think most of the people I was at school with I did know um the 904 1:54:00 --> 1:54:05 50 states in america and how it could make a good shot at naming them all I can name them all in 905 1:54:05 --> 1:54:14 about or write them down in about um five minutes but it's easy to forget one but even yeah it's 906 1:54:14 --> 1:54:18 possible to do it but anyway the point is you know what I mean people are badly read they don't think 907 1:54:18 --> 1:54:25 it's necessary to read uh they don't have any books in the house it's just crazy and and they're there 908 1:54:25 --> 1:54:31 to protect their own children they don't even understand that so generation of Greta Thunberg's 909 1:54:33 --> 1:54:40 correct well of course she comes from one of the problem countries Sweden yes so people used to 910 1:54:40 --> 1:54:46 say to me oh because my wife is Swedish I lived in Sweden I worked in Sweden as a doctor I trained 911 1:54:46 --> 1:54:55 there as a radiologist actually in london and um but the point is that uh people said to me 912 1:54:55 --> 1:55:01 oh Sweden didn't need a lockdown you know so Sweden's not got lockdowns I said they didn't 913 1:55:01 --> 1:55:06 need it and they said why not because the government already believed that sorry the 914 1:55:06 --> 1:55:15 public already believed the government anyway so the totalitarianism had already made inroads there 915 1:55:15 --> 1:55:22 that's what I'm saying so James I just want to ask you um I think in order to hold people to 916 1:55:22 --> 1:55:28 account we have to kind of understand what has gone on in the last five years do you think that 917 1:55:28 --> 1:55:35 there was a pandemic we were told in 2020 that there was a pandemic pandemic was declared so we 918 1:55:35 --> 1:55:42 know that lots of lives were told why would we believe that there was a pandemic because I think 919 1:55:42 --> 1:55:48 that was just another lie and if you explain that to the public they're very interested 920 1:55:48 --> 1:55:54 because of course they suffered um with the measures in the UK and around the world 921 1:55:55 --> 1:56:01 because of the pandemic which never occurred in my opinion I don't think the COVID-19 was properly 922 1:56:01 --> 1:56:08 diagnosed PCR test you know that was a pile of rubbish but clinically it wasn't properly 923 1:56:08 --> 1:56:15 diagnosed people were saying oh loss of taste and loss of smell but in my opinion as a medical 924 1:56:15 --> 1:56:22 doctor there was no symptom which was pathognomonic for COVID-19 so if we don't explain this to the 925 1:56:22 --> 1:56:28 public they're never going to understand it they're always going to be in a state of Stockholm 926 1:56:28 --> 1:56:36 syndrome wondering what the heck happened in 2020 2021 2022 and they're still not well 927 1:56:37 --> 1:56:45 so James what do you think well I think you're right it's kind of like 9-eleven um you know it 928 1:56:45 --> 1:56:53 was uh the Patriot you know the Patriot Act well it sounded really good right but it was devastating 929 1:56:53 --> 1:57:03 it wasn't a patriot patriotic thing to do at all it was anti-patriot absolutely you know once the 930 1:57:03 --> 1:57:12 you know once the government takes power they never yield it back they never relinquish it 931 1:57:12 --> 1:57:20 I mean if we've learned anything from Adam up until you know the 2000 years before Abraham 932 1:57:21 --> 1:57:29 and 2000 years between Abraham and Christ and 2000 years since Christ if we've learned one thing 933 1:57:29 --> 1:57:38 that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely 934 1:57:41 --> 1:57:49 yeah I can't remember who that whose quote that was power corrupts and absolute power 935 1:57:49 --> 1:57:57 corrupts absolutely is it Aldous Hesley I don't um was it uh I don't know was it Burke 936 1:57:59 --> 1:58:03 maybe Burke Edmund uh was it Edmund Burke I can't quite remember Kirk Moore will know 937 1:58:04 --> 1:58:09 I'm going to go to the questioners they've got their hands up now so Mark um go ahead Mark 938 1:58:09 --> 1:58:21 Thank you um uh Jim uh what we've got over here in the UK is currently anybody that is let's say 60 939 1:58:23 --> 1:58:30 uh plus right they are being advised to have statins they're advised to have a flu jab 940 1:58:30 --> 1:58:39 have a flu jab they're advised to go for a booster covid jab and they're advised to um have now a 941 1:58:39 --> 1:58:52 pneumonia uh vaccine jab um this seems to be uh a protocol which is driven by the government 942 1:58:52 --> 1:59:00 not necessarily by the actual doctor because um I recently have been asked to come for 943 1:59:00 --> 1:59:09 the flu the covid and pneumonia right now I'm almost 70 I don't take any medication whatsoever 944 1:59:10 --> 1:59:17 and I'm pretty fit and I'm sure my doctor would say I was pretty fit but I keep getting texts 945 1:59:17 --> 1:59:26 asking me to come along for these jabs so is it a question of the let's say the government 946 1:59:27 --> 1:59:36 wanting people over a certain age to have these or is it a question that the medical profession 947 1:59:36 --> 1:59:42 wants you to have them because they will earn money on providing this service particularly 948 1:59:42 --> 1:59:50 with statins because you'll be taking them for life I think your question is brilliant remember 949 1:59:50 --> 2:00:00 Edward Jenner in he said 1898 right um or 1798 what am I saying I think it was 1798 Edward Jenner 950 2:00:00 --> 2:00:07 somebody fact check me on that the father of vaccines right and and it was he that that was 951 2:00:07 --> 2:00:16 trying to treat smallpox and back then and I believe that what they called it back then was 952 2:00:18 --> 2:00:21 varicella vaccina 953 2:00:23 --> 2:00:36 latin vaccini is cow so that's cowpox that's latin varicella vaccine is cowpox and isn't it 954 2:00:36 --> 2:00:42 ironic as John Leake would say and Peter McCullough in their new book isn't it ironic 955 2:00:45 --> 2:00:52 that vaccines are named after a cow right because they've been the biggest cash cow ever to mankind 956 2:00:54 --> 2:01:05 I mean it's all based on really on embezzlement on money and power on pseudoscience 957 2:01:07 --> 2:01:15 self-enrichment and non there's nothing academic it's an ideology it's like a it's like a religion 958 2:01:16 --> 2:01:18 it's an ideology 959 2:01:20 --> 2:01:27 um so Mark I know about this so people tell me about those texts and various other means of 960 2:01:27 --> 2:01:34 communication it's crazy so the people the very people who shouldn't be having these shots 961 2:01:35 --> 2:01:41 are having the shots the most exposed people are the the old and the vulnerable they shouldn't be 962 2:01:41 --> 2:01:45 having these shots but did you notice the British government and governments around the world were 963 2:01:45 --> 2:01:51 saying oh we can't let the 20 year olds have the covid shots you know they weren't saying it like 964 2:01:51 --> 2:01:58 that that essentially was the message but we can give it to the old people to protect them but in 965 2:01:58 --> 2:02:02 fact they want to get rid of the old people because they don't want to pay them their pensions in fact 966 2:02:02 --> 2:02:09 they haven't got any money to pay them their pensions so that's right very true mark you know 967 2:02:09 --> 2:02:15 what I'm saying the latest literature on the influenza vaccine it's a failed strategy from 968 2:02:15 --> 2:02:22 beginning because it's again it's a rapidly dividing RNA virus forget about a vaccine 969 2:02:22 --> 2:02:30 ever working in a rapidly dividing RNA virus number one so it's all based upon computer models 970 2:02:30 --> 2:02:37 and number two the most recent study suggests that it doesn't prevent influenza it increases 971 2:02:37 --> 2:02:47 the risk of influenza and it increases the risk of para other viral illnesses so it's it's totally 972 2:02:47 --> 2:02:54 ridiculous and James wouldn't you agree that if you've got a dangerous vaccine or a possibly 973 2:02:54 --> 2:03:02 dangerous vaccine the last person you give it to is the oldest people and the and the disabled 974 2:03:02 --> 2:03:07 it's just yes that sounds like they want to get rid of these people I think they do 975 2:03:08 --> 2:03:14 there's no respect for them like do like uh it's exactly like Vera was talking about New York 976 2:03:14 --> 2:03:21 City's you know but all the stuff all the people and all the sick people in the in the homes for 977 2:03:22 --> 2:03:28 the gypsies they went up to the gypsies you know one thing that I've noticed is that 978 2:03:29 --> 2:03:36 the big push in the pharmacy they've got a huge poster up asking people if they want ozempic 979 2:03:37 --> 2:03:44 and it's kind of like well hang on a minute uh these are these are not people that have been 980 2:03:44 --> 2:03:50 recommended it is if you want to pay for it yourself you can come in for ozempic but 981 2:03:51 --> 2:03:58 I've actually explained to people that it could lead to serious complications including blindness 982 2:04:00 --> 2:04:03 right but they don't seem to be they don't seem to care 983 2:04:04 --> 2:04:10 well it's like they if they can get away with it and it doesn't make sense all the better because 984 2:04:10 --> 2:04:16 if it doesn't make sense and they get people to believe them and they go along meekly and 985 2:04:16 --> 2:04:21 take their vaccine when it's really dangerous for them um that's they've won haven't they because 986 2:04:21 --> 2:04:28 they've psychologically they they've taken this person's mind out of existence they've cancelled 987 2:04:28 --> 2:04:36 a human being that's what they want to do they want everything to to not make sense so that they 988 2:04:36 --> 2:04:42 get people to believe things which they know they shouldn't believe and go and take a vaccine 989 2:04:42 --> 2:04:47 which they know to be dangerous so they can go on holiday but what's the use of going on holiday 990 2:04:47 --> 2:04:56 if you're not well anyway so don't try to make sense of what they say mark just yeah say oh yet 991 2:04:56 --> 2:05:05 another lie another misleading thing that they're telling the public outrageous anyway um so i'd like 992 2:05:05 --> 2:05:11 to hear from kirk more um first and then we'll come to you tom and jessica 993 2:05:15 --> 2:05:17 oh you muted kirk 994 2:05:21 --> 2:05:28 uh i'll be very brief sorry for um i i guess my hand came down for some reason sir kirk 995 2:05:28 --> 2:05:34 sure jim good to see you it did i don't know that the audience was aware that you were knighted 996 2:05:36 --> 2:05:43 when was i knighted during during your presentation uh you were knighted the first time you and i met 997 2:05:43 --> 2:05:48 on a space three years ago or so oh that's right that's right i was knighted i got the Nobel peace 998 2:05:48 --> 2:05:56 prize and the congressional i get the congressional medal of freedom yeah you got it yeah amen bro 999 2:05:57 --> 2:06:04 maybe now you're beginning to understand that you are really ironclad now because you know you've 1000 2:06:04 --> 2:06:13 been let out of jail by the u.s government and nobody can touch you now no no not not anymore 1001 2:06:13 --> 2:06:18 um hey listen very don't drive that ferrari too fast uh yeah well that's the only way they 1002 2:06:18 --> 2:06:27 that's why they can't touch me um uh um jim i just wanted to bring up and you i think you and steven 1003 2:06:27 --> 2:06:35 we're talking about this um in terms of you know um history and uh and and kind of um making sure 1004 2:06:35 --> 2:06:42 that we don't repeat it um the struggle that i have is um you still don't really know what we 1005 2:06:42 --> 2:06:48 still don't really know what happened with the spanish flu 100 years ago um it's still a very 1006 2:06:48 --> 2:06:53 mine you know it's still very much in the minority that this was really not an influenza or i mean a 1007 2:06:53 --> 2:06:58 pandemic um and you still have to search really hard to kind of find out what the truth is behind 1008 2:06:58 --> 2:07:04 it um and you know overdoses on aspirin the meningococcal vaccine that was being used and 1009 2:07:04 --> 2:07:11 experimented with um and you know unless we can do a better job of crafting the narrative to the 1010 2:07:11 --> 2:07:17 victor you know the victor writes the history books and 100 years from now covid is going to be 1011 2:07:17 --> 2:07:22 you know kind of memory hold or at least the truth behind covid is going to be memory hold 1012 2:07:22 --> 2:07:27 with you know the same thing that happened with the spanish flu so that's just my single 1013 2:07:27 --> 2:07:32 contribution right now i got in really late i was um on another conference call so i missed 1014 2:07:32 --> 2:07:38 your presentation jim i apologize about that not at all i that's scary to think about what 1015 2:07:38 --> 2:07:46 the statement that you just made it's a um it's a scary thought well i personally think it's 1016 2:07:46 --> 2:07:52 incredibly important kirk um what you're saying because essentially what you're saying is 1017 2:07:53 --> 2:07:59 we have to develop an understanding for this which is sufficiently good to change public 1018 2:07:59 --> 2:08:04 opinion about what happened in 2020 because at the moment they haven't got a clue what happened 1019 2:08:04 --> 2:08:09 they know it was wrong but they can't articulate what was wrong and that's not going to be good 1020 2:08:09 --> 2:08:14 enough for the history books so we have to change public opinion somehow to understand to get them 1021 2:08:14 --> 2:08:20 to understand you know our version which i think you and you agree that well i don't want to coerce 1022 2:08:20 --> 2:08:26 you into agreeing with me but i don't think there was a pandemic i don't think covid 19 existed 1023 2:08:26 --> 2:08:33 it was all a pack of lies everything they said there was no emergency and by the way james and 1024 2:08:33 --> 2:08:39 kirk because you're both american the american government extended the state of emergency 1025 2:08:39 --> 2:08:49 re-covid on the tw- on in december at the end of december 2024 after trump had been elected 1026 2:08:49 --> 2:08:57 but before he became president and that extension is there for another five years now i think trump 1027 2:08:57 --> 2:09:03 can't have it both ways he can't be saying to the people i'm working for the people i think he's 1028 2:09:03 --> 2:09:10 doing a lot of good things for america and for the american people but he can't at the same time 1029 2:09:11 --> 2:09:17 hide the fact because it looks as though it's being hidden that the um state of emergency in 1030 2:09:17 --> 2:09:25 the united states of america the prep act was extended um in december of 2024 and at the same 1031 2:09:25 --> 2:09:31 time continue to claim that he's working for the american people he has to someone has to get close 1032 2:09:31 --> 2:09:37 to trump and tell him what's going on personally so it doesn't get diluted by some advisor who 1033 2:09:37 --> 2:09:44 doesn't understand and then trump has to take action so he essentially we could write an open 1034 2:09:44 --> 2:09:48 letter to him so then everybody in the world knows that he's received that letter 1035 2:09:51 --> 2:09:55 jim or you want me to answer that yeah well either of you either of you so i think 1036 2:09:56 --> 2:10:02 that's that's been one of my major um that's been one of my major pushes this whole 1037 2:10:02 --> 2:10:07 you know this whole time the not not only was it extended in december it was extended for five 1038 2:10:07 --> 2:10:12 years yes prior to that the extensions were six months or 12 months at a time the only reason 1039 2:10:12 --> 2:10:17 that's extended to you know for the for what it is is so that the emergency use authorization 1040 2:10:17 --> 2:10:24 part of the prep act can still kind of be um used and is is still in place and it protects 1041 2:10:24 --> 2:10:30 all of the pharmaceutical companies from being sued and i've said this over and over and over 1042 2:10:30 --> 2:10:36 again this could end and it should end and it should end immediately and our and our junior 1043 2:10:36 --> 2:10:42 is the single person that can actually end the state of emergency emergency he is the hhs secretary 1044 2:10:42 --> 2:10:46 which under the prep act allows him to end it he doesn't have to mention covid he doesn't have to 1045 2:10:46 --> 2:10:51 mention vaccines he doesn't have to mention anything at all he just says you know we are 1046 2:10:51 --> 2:10:57 no longer in a state of emergency and i'll tell you what the overnight all of these mrna vaccines 1047 2:10:57 --> 2:11:03 all of this uh stuff will go away will be completely gone because the pharmaceutical companies will not 1048 2:11:03 --> 2:11:09 be able to withstand the liability lawsuits that they would be hit with absolutely so in the united 1049 2:11:09 --> 2:11:16 kingdom in the united kingdom we have um the coronavirus act had it and it was very difficult 1050 2:11:16 --> 2:11:21 to know what was happening to the coronavirus act and i still don't know because someone 1051 2:11:21 --> 2:11:28 told me today that in his opinion the coronavirus act is still in operation in the united kingdom 1052 2:11:28 --> 2:11:34 so i'm going to go and see my mp and ask for this mp to ask a parliamentary question uh 1053 2:11:35 --> 2:11:41 and they have to tell the truth is there or is there not is the coronavirus act still in 1054 2:11:41 --> 2:11:47 force in the united kingdom the same thing as in the united states you've got something in force 1055 2:11:47 --> 2:11:54 which dictates everyone knows that they have to jump when it comes to this including trump it looks 1056 2:11:54 --> 2:12:01 like so we need to get to the bottom of this because once we've got that out of the way in 1057 2:12:01 --> 2:12:06 both countries and in other countries then we can make progress but i don't think we can make 1058 2:12:06 --> 2:12:15 progress until we've got rid of them so sorry about that james um i think it's a very important 1059 2:12:15 --> 2:12:21 point and i think you know what vera was saying we need to hold people to account otherwise and 1060 2:12:21 --> 2:12:27 kirk is saying that history will record that we don't know what happened in 2020 if we don't speak 1061 2:12:27 --> 2:12:33 out we are medical doctors the three of us and we should together i think work to get the the 1062 2:12:33 --> 2:12:39 message out to the public it's not just about the the vaccinations which were dangerous and not 1063 2:12:39 --> 2:12:48 effective the lie about that it's about treason this is treason no less anyway 1064 2:12:51 --> 2:12:53 so kirk do you have any comments or james 1065 2:12:53 --> 2:12:58 no i think your points are really well taken there's there's a lot of controversy you know i 1066 2:12:58 --> 2:13:06 i don't um i i voted for trump three times i think you know one one could try to 1067 2:13:08 --> 2:13:13 paint him as possibly one of the best presidents in the history of the united states of america 1068 2:13:13 --> 2:13:18 i don't agree with a lot of stuff he's done and i'm i'm really disturbed by a lot of 1069 2:13:18 --> 2:13:24 including you know putting together all these ai packages and all these bills and yeah just 1070 2:13:24 --> 2:13:31 it's and not but then there's i have to open up my mind you know there's these famous people 1071 2:13:31 --> 2:13:38 this artist i'm blocking on his name viva out there in california that was saying that the 1072 2:13:38 --> 2:13:46 pandemic was planned since the early 2000s and and he claims that had trump been elected president 1073 2:13:46 --> 2:13:53 he claims that had trump not done what he did all of us would be in concentration camps right now 1074 2:13:53 --> 2:14:01 fema camps and you know that fena camp threat i mean that was real i mean several investigators 1075 2:14:01 --> 2:14:05 have looked at fema camps all over the united states of america in every state including 1076 2:14:05 --> 2:14:11 multiple in florida my own state those were real and what they're saying is that trump had to do 1077 2:14:11 --> 2:14:20 what he did and put it in or we would all be in concentration camps if we dissented i don't know 1078 2:14:20 --> 2:14:27 what the truth is well i think trump is extremely talented so i think i know liars when i see liars 1079 2:14:27 --> 2:14:32 after my ridiculous case you know the whistleblowing case five and a half years of that nonsense 1080 2:14:34 --> 2:14:39 i know liars when i see them and in 2020 i knew straight away i was being lied to by all the 1081 2:14:39 --> 2:14:46 governments in the world and nobody else around me in north wales could see it and um but um i 1082 2:14:46 --> 2:14:54 think that a trump i see i've been looking at him very carefully looking at all his um uh press 1083 2:14:54 --> 2:15:00 conferences you know in in the oval office caroline levers as well and i see someone who's 1084 2:15:00 --> 2:15:08 incredibly talented he may you know fear for his life on certain issues he's also extremely 1085 2:15:08 --> 2:15:15 courageous um and um and he has a remarkable ability to connect with other human beings 1086 2:15:16 --> 2:15:22 i have never seen anything like it and he works like a dog he is an extraordinary uh guy whatever 1087 2:15:22 --> 2:15:29 you think of him you know he's not perfect obviously as a human being but he's extraordinary um i think 1088 2:15:29 --> 2:15:36 we have to assume that he's working doing what he loves his family and he loves america i think he 1089 2:15:36 --> 2:15:43 does love his family and he loves america he's a bit full of himself to say the least but you know 1090 2:15:43 --> 2:15:51 it takes all types i he gives me hope i don't see anyone in the whole world apart from you james and 1091 2:15:51 --> 2:15:59 kirk and a few others jerome um who give and vera who give me hope and um so all the people 1092 2:15:59 --> 2:16:05 who are attacking trump and they can't name anyone who they prefer to see as the president 1093 2:16:05 --> 2:16:12 in the united states of america so um i think we have to work with who we've got and i think we 1094 2:16:12 --> 2:16:18 have to assume my personal opinion is we assume that he's a force for good and we try to get 1095 2:16:18 --> 2:16:24 close to him and get our message undiluted to him and we are medical doctors so we have 1096 2:16:24 --> 2:16:32 responsibility to do this amen hey steven i have another show that i gotta jump on too sure and 1097 2:16:32 --> 2:16:38 i feel really bad because i see a hand up oh what should we quickly do a one minute 1098 2:16:38 --> 2:16:43 question and one minute answer for the two people with their hands up i can do that 1099 2:16:47 --> 2:16:52 tom you have your hand up oh sure i can i have a bunch of questions about i'll just ask one 1100 2:16:52 --> 2:17:00 then and thank you for showing up on the short notice dr paul thomas is suing the cdc he's a 1101 2:17:00 --> 2:17:07 pediatrician yes i heard uh tom rance who's a lawyer saying that he might actually have standing 1102 2:17:08 --> 2:17:15 um is there anything we can do to help that along are you aware of that case i i've heard of it and 1103 2:17:15 --> 2:17:24 i love paul thomas um you know i i that's exactly what needs to be done and you know i'm also aware 1104 2:17:24 --> 2:17:32 and i'm involved with the case against the fresno hospital that um went after the whistleblower 1105 2:17:32 --> 2:17:43 chd is behind that case and i'm also being um asked to sue the hospital for the same thing 1106 2:17:44 --> 2:17:53 that the nurse was suing fresno hospital for so yeah um you know i think we need to stand behind 1107 2:17:53 --> 2:18:00 this we need we just like dr steven mentioned and vera mentioned and kurt mentioned i think 1108 2:18:00 --> 2:18:09 everybody's in agreement it's not just forget about it move on cast it no people have to be punished 1109 2:18:09 --> 2:18:18 or this will happen again absolutely thank you um so jessica richards um uh one minute for a 1110 2:18:18 --> 2:18:24 question jessica and um we'll try to hold you to a minute for the answer but you know you might 1111 2:18:24 --> 2:18:31 want to go on thank you um excuse me not having the camera on and thank you dr james so much for 1112 2:18:31 --> 2:18:36 your time very quick question and it's along the same lines that people do need to be held 1113 2:18:36 --> 2:18:47 accountable but what about the doctors who took the jabs themselves injected other people they've 1114 2:18:47 --> 2:18:52 also been injured but some of them and i know some of them still believe it all what happens 1115 2:18:52 --> 2:18:59 to those what category would they fit into when it comes to being people being held accountable 1116 2:19:01 --> 2:19:11 wow i don't have a great answer for that but that's a incredible question jenny and um so you 1117 2:19:11 --> 2:19:18 actually know somebody that they themselves know they were injured by the vaccine they 1118 2:19:18 --> 2:19:24 oh necessarily know they were injured they are clearly injured by the vaccine because they 1119 2:19:24 --> 2:19:30 become ill with a non-stop cough except but they themselves don't know they were injured they write 1120 2:19:30 --> 2:19:36 it off to something else yes okay it's just a nasal drip or it's this it's that or the other 1121 2:19:36 --> 2:19:42 and even someone not a warned the beginning this is breaking the nurenberg code because it's 1122 2:19:42 --> 2:19:50 experimental you know so no one can possibly give informed consent for an experiment i mean 1123 2:19:50 --> 2:19:59 that one cancels out the other but there are still doctors out there who will be held to account but 1124 2:19:59 --> 2:20:06 they are genuinely in the belief and they've taken they've taken the jabs themselves some of 1125 2:20:06 --> 2:20:13 them aren't injured by it and they have injected other people they just they are just believing 1126 2:20:13 --> 2:20:25 it what happens to those it's a really difficult situation yeah it's a very difficult question to 1127 2:20:25 --> 2:20:31 ask there's so much cognitive dissonance and there's so much shame and guilt um you don't 1128 2:20:32 --> 2:20:37 think about it jenny not only have they injected themselves which they can never undo 1129 2:20:38 --> 2:20:43 no your body may be making the bio weapon for the rest of their life and their life's going to be 1130 2:20:43 --> 2:20:50 attenuated if they really got the jab um yeah not the placebo but not only it gets worse they push 1131 2:20:50 --> 2:20:57 on their wives their children or their spouses and patients their extended family and then all 1132 2:20:57 --> 2:21:04 their patients they can never admit to all the carnage death and destruction it's you know i 1133 2:21:04 --> 2:21:11 i think one of the things that i try to teach my three daughters is to and i try to model this for 1134 2:21:11 --> 2:21:18 them and say you know call my daughters by name and say hey i'm really sorry i made a mistake i 1135 2:21:18 --> 2:21:25 screwed up please forgive me and you know i i've tried to do that publicly i've done it before 1136 2:21:25 --> 2:21:31 publicly i think on this platform you know i guess you haven't ever been an anti-vaxxer okay i'm a 1137 2:21:31 --> 2:21:38 disabled veteran i've pushed the vaccines um i've taken more vaccines than most of you all i'm an 1138 2:21:38 --> 2:21:45 old fart right and and yet i didn't come to my full knowledge and clarity that everybody shares on 1139 2:21:45 --> 2:21:51 this panel until after the turn of the century so i've probably done a great deal of harm and i've 1140 2:21:51 --> 2:21:57 publicly apologized for that i've repented and asked for forgiveness and moved on but you know 1141 2:21:57 --> 2:22:06 unfortunately most doctors and nurses don't have the capability the integrity emotionally or 1142 2:22:06 --> 2:22:15 spiritually or cognitively to do that unfortunately but it's a really liberating thing try it 1143 2:22:15 --> 2:22:20 get on a public platform and say may i cope a man copa may i ask my copa i screwed up i made a 1144 2:22:20 --> 2:22:29 mistake i trusted these people i agree but but i do think it's across the board even with ordinary 1145 2:22:29 --> 2:22:38 people the cognitive dissonance because the enormity of what may be the truth is too much for the 1146 2:22:38 --> 2:22:44 average person to process and i think some medics it's even worse because it means because i know a 1147 2:22:44 --> 2:22:50 couple of retired ones that came out of retirement to do it and took the jabs themselves they the 1148 2:22:50 --> 2:23:00 enormity of accepting or even considering that their whole career has been possibly harming people 1149 2:23:01 --> 2:23:08 i suppose is too much to process and then to think of well what do you do then have they got to be 1150 2:23:08 --> 2:23:12 held to account have they got to be punished 1151 2:23:14 --> 2:23:21 they're already in hell i think at some point good point i'll wait for god yeah when does it get 1152 2:23:21 --> 2:23:30 go from being held accountable to being vengeful yes good point it's a moral maze jessica but 1153 2:23:30 --> 2:23:35 we'll sort it out eventually um i just want to ask you one more question james if you've got time 1154 2:23:35 --> 2:23:42 it's really important thank you since thank you so much jessica for very thoughtful question 1155 2:23:42 --> 2:23:48 thank you jessica so uh since 2020 james until now five years of this 1156 2:23:50 --> 2:23:54 terrible times these are dreadful times well they're amazing in other ways because i think 1157 2:23:54 --> 2:24:02 you've formed new friendships with better people than before but um i mean it's hard not to judge 1158 2:24:02 --> 2:24:08 our former friends um because it feels like betrayal unfortunately but the point is i wanted 1159 2:24:08 --> 2:24:14 to ask you in the last um since 2020 the beginning of 2020 what is the most shocking thing to you 1160 2:24:16 --> 2:24:22 james um you know what did you find the most difficult to cope with the most shocking thing 1161 2:24:22 --> 2:24:28 in my so i'll give you an example in my case i think i thought human beings were better than 1162 2:24:28 --> 2:24:33 this i think the best way to describe it you know i really thought that human beings were better 1163 2:24:33 --> 2:24:41 than this and and so and the other thing i wanted to ask you was you know about the bible um 1164 2:24:42 --> 2:24:48 and i just wondered whether you could give uh people like me um your best quote from the 1165 2:24:48 --> 2:24:52 bible for these dreadful times we've been through since 2020 1166 2:24:52 --> 2:24:54 um 1167 2:24:54 --> 2:25:05 well that's a great one really putting me on the spot here i um i would i would say that um isaiah 1168 2:25:05 --> 2:25:16 chapter 40 um you know is is just so so powerful and it's for all of us uh 1169 2:25:16 --> 2:25:25 you know and and isaiah chapter 43 you know um can you give us an idea of what it says or is it 1170 2:25:25 --> 2:25:33 difficult to you know why do you say oh jacob why do you say israel you have not known me 1171 2:25:33 --> 2:25:41 i have disheartened you do you not know have you not heard i am the everlasting god the creator 1172 2:25:42 --> 2:25:52 of the heaven and earth and i will not grow weary um and it goes on from there 1173 2:25:53 --> 2:25:58 do you not know have you not heard i'm the everlasting god 1174 2:26:01 --> 2:26:08 maybe you can come back and give us the app of the the definitive quote read it i mean um and in 1175 2:26:09 --> 2:26:16 isaiah chapter 3 where he says i i know you you are mine i have engraved you on the palm of my hand 1176 2:26:17 --> 2:26:26 um joshua chapter 1 three times god commands us through joshua be strong and courageous 1177 2:26:27 --> 2:26:33 be strong and courageous be strong and courageous three times in joshua chapter 1 and then it's on 1178 2:26:33 --> 2:26:45 139 where god states that he knew you before conception he had your whole life planned for him 1179 2:26:46 --> 2:26:52 and um you know i created you in your innermost you know in your mother's womb i knew you 1180 2:26:55 --> 2:27:02 about the sanctity of life yes and the notion that human beings mere human beings 1181 2:27:02 --> 2:27:07 who don't even understand the universe they live in it's absolutely huge the universe as far as i 1182 2:27:07 --> 2:27:13 can understand um and um and the complexity of it they think they can set themselves up 1183 2:27:14 --> 2:27:21 to other human beings and say your child in order to to live to the age of five in the united 1184 2:27:21 --> 2:27:30 states of america needs 72 vaccinations i think it is this is just human hubris apparently god 1185 2:27:30 --> 2:27:37 didn't make us perfectly as he said in psalm 139 we're we're born with a vaccine deficiency apparently 1186 2:27:39 --> 2:27:47 so essentially this amazing universe um and god man comes along a mere species within that universe 1187 2:27:47 --> 2:27:55 the last in a long line of dominant species will one day be replaced no doubt um uh he comes along 1188 2:27:55 --> 2:28:04 and says well actually i know better than god or whoever the creator is um i so the the human 1189 2:28:04 --> 2:28:09 immune system is not good enough and and i want you to take these shots but i'm not going to tell 1190 2:28:09 --> 2:28:17 you what's in them and he gets public health which is actually just tyranny it's a tyranny 1191 2:28:17 --> 2:28:24 we were warned about it in medical school you know so it's public health and who suffers well 1192 2:28:24 --> 2:28:29 the individual but who's more important the public or the individual i think the individual 1193 2:28:30 --> 2:28:35 that's right i agree with you and that's the difference between a medical physician and public 1194 2:28:35 --> 2:28:43 health yes legislator so public health is communism i think taking care of the individual takes care 1195 2:28:43 --> 2:28:49 of the public by itself absolutely yes thank you kirk thank you so anyway thank you so much james 1196 2:28:49 --> 2:28:56 a brilliant presentation and we managed to get some um uh kind of philosophy out of you 1197 2:28:57 --> 2:29:05 towards the end thank you for having me steven thank you everybody mark kirk uh tom you're so 1198 2:29:05 --> 2:29:09 modest james you stick to you you stick to your lane and you're so modest 1199 2:29:11 --> 2:29:14 thank you very much for having me god bless you thank you so much yeah