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Erickson, thank you.

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Shasta, you're a superstar.

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Well done.

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Thank you, James, and thank you, Curtis.

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Is Curtis here?

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Yes, I'm here.

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Thank you, Curtis.

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My pleasure.

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I'll do my usual trick, everybody.

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And that is Charles.

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Charles, Michelle, the whistleblower is here, too.

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She's here for only half an hour.

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Thank you.

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The nurse.

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She's the nurse in shape.

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Hello, Michelle.

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Hi.

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Thank you for having me.

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There you are.

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Beautiful.

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Hey, sweet Michelle.

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How you doing?

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Good.

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I'm fine.

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Thank you.

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Michelle, I noticed that we're gaining some ground

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on our fundraising goal.

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Yeah, I love it.

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Wonderful.

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James, I'd be very interested, James, in so you're

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a proper doctor, from what you said.

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I'd be very interested if you do have any thoughts about how

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we re-educate doctors worldwide.

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I'd be very interested.

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But maybe you haven't formulated those thoughts.

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I have formulated those thoughts quite a bit.

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And my message has undergone a tremendous amount

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of revision with time.

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I've tried to study how to better move the movable middle.

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What I found is that when I lovingly present the facts

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to my 98% of physician colleagues that

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have been vaccinated, it's often returned

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with immediate pain and shame.

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injured themselves and others.

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is flashing out and attacking where that shame is coming from.

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I get the same reaction.

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faith, hope, and love.

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Now, two or three days ago, Dr. Peter McCullough

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came out with a substack.

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He proclaimed that COVID-19 vaccines in pregnancy

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are category X. They are contraindicated in pregnancy.

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And they have a black box warning.

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And that's coming from Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Jim Thorpe.

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And we are proclaiming that to be the rule of the globe,

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because the CDC, the FDA, the American Board

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of Episectrics and Gynecology, the American College of OB-GYN,

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and the Society of Maternal Fetal Medicine have gone AWOL.

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a moratorium on the use of these investigational gene

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therapies in pregnancy.

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And let the world know that Dr. Jim Thorpe, myself,

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will testify in criminal charges and civil charges

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for any physician against any physician or entity in this world

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that is pushing this dangerous, lethal gene technology therapy

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in my pregnant woman.

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So bono.

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Let the world be known that the world experts have proclaimed

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a moratorium of black box warning, category X warning.

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to see me in court if you injure one of my patients.

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Stephen, I get this show on the road.

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Everybody, welcome to today's discussion.

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Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International.

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This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost of Wales in mid-2021,

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nearly two years ago, during the darkest days of the COVID

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scam responses, with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice,

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freedom, and health.

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Stephen has stood up against government and power

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over the years and has been a whistleblower and activist.

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His medical specialty is radiology,

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so he clearly sees through most things.

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Sadly, the need for this group is increasing, not decreasing.

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The forces of evil globally are not disappearing.

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I'm Charles Covess, the moderator of this group.

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I'm Australasian passion provocateur,

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and my jacket is red because red is the color of passion.

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I practiced law for 20 years before changing career

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30 years ago.

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And over the last 11 years, I've helped parents and lawyers

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to strategize remedies for vaccine,

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damage, and damage from bad medical advice.

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The people who attend this group are indeed passionate

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about the aims of this group.

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We comprise lots of professions, doctors, lawyers, naturopaths,

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homeopaths, healers, journalists, engineers, writers,

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researchers, scientists, filmmakers, dentists, nurses.

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a whistleblower, investors.

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Historian, you're a great writer.

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primate experts, thinkers, peacemakers, and troublemakers.

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Czech Republic, Germany, Austria, and from other places.

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If you're from elsewhere, put it in the chat.

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If this is your first time here, welcome and feel free

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to introduce yourself in the chat.

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We ask that you show your name on the screen

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so we know who you are.

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If you are here to troll us,

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I have one message for you, get stuffed.

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If you publish a newsletter or a podcast,

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or you have a radio or TV show, or you've written a book,

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put the links into the chat so we can follow you,

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promote you, and find you.

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Curtis Cost has a sub stack.

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Jim, do you have a sub stack?

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I think you do.

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I'm on Twitter.

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Excellent, Jim's on Twitter.

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This group meets at least twice weekly

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in a true spirit of exploration and discovery

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to increase our understanding of what's going on

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and how to more effectively preserve and fight

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for truth, ethics, justice, freedom, and health.

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Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III

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and there are various battle lines as part of this war.

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Some of us would believe we're in a continuation

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of World War II.

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Most of us understand the development of science.

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The wonderful author Michael Crichton wrote,

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"'When someone tells you the science is settled,

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reach for your wallet.'

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to all ideas.'

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and uncompromising skepticism.'

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This meeting runs for two and a half hours

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after which for those with the time,

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Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting.

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Tom puts the links into the chat if you are able to join.

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Jim Thorpe and Curtis Cost for as long as they wish to speak

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and from Michelle, our whistleblower.

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raise your hand using the reactions tab

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on the bottom of your screen.

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Stephen Frost, by long established tradition,

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There's no censorship in this meeting

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as a free speech environment,

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but we have proper, efficient and effective moderation.

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Be patient with the process of the meeting.

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Different people have totally different views

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about what is important, what is relevant,

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what is nonsense.

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Free speech is crucially important in our fight

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to preserve our human freedoms.

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The tragedy these days is that the majority of people

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would choose security ahead of freedom

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and then end up with neither,

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as Thomas Jefferson famously said.

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This group can help you to identify your beliefs

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and perhaps to help you change those

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that no longer serve you.

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This group can help you raise your self-awareness,

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the crucial factor in your enjoyment

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and experience of your life.

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look inside yourself, that's where your upset originates

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and Jim's already touched on that complex

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psychological process of people being upset, being shamed.

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If you're offended by anything, be offended.

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We're genuinely not interested.

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We reject the offense industry that requires nobody

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to say anything that may offend anyone.

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to someone who claims to be offended

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by something that I said.

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If you want a copy, I'm happy to share it.

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I urge you never to apologize to someone

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who claims to be offended.

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Decide to have an open mind.

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It's the fastest way to learn.

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I used to have an open mind, but my brain kept falling out.

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We come with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear.

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Fear squashes you, suppresses you, depresses you.

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energizes you, enhances you.

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Loving those with different views to your own

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is a challenge, and we encourage you

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to embrace that challenge.

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put the details into the chat.

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If you have links and resources that will be helpful,

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put them into the chat.

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The meeting is recorded and is uploaded within a few days

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on the Rumble channel.

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And now welcome to Jim Thorpe and Curtis Cost

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Gersh Mann, Gersh Mann.

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wisdom and insights.

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for creating this group

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and for organizing the presenters today.

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So Jim, Curtis, over to you guys.

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if that's okay.

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You're in charge, Jim, you're in charge.

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I'm a maternal fetal medicine specialist,

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board certified, also board certified,

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There's about 25,000 practicing OB-GYN docs in the country.

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and brutally attacked this horrific lie

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that has been perpetrated on my patients globally,

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a greachous violation of the sacrosanct

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golden rule of pregnancy.

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Curtis is a dear friend of mine.

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He's from CHD, Children's Health Defense.

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a publisher of a bestseller book on vaccines.

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that will remain unnamed.

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and expose from a hospital in central California,

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straight from the administrative supervisor

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of all of women's services,

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exposing a massive surge in fetal death,

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fetal death and stillbirth at her institution

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that began not with COVID-19,

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with the rollout of the vaccine.

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if it's okay, I know that Michelle, you have to go.

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to just talk about your journey

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and I want you to talk about the data

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that was given to you by your hospital administration.

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Thank you, Dr. Thor.

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So my name is Michelle Gershman

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and I'm an RN in central California.

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to do no harm.

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that work alongside with me,

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they all took an oath to do no harm.

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I quickly realized after working in the hospital

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that do no harm means nothing

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if it means that they're getting paid.

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that it doesn't matter how much you're getting paid,

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you really shouldn't hurt somebody else.

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You should not cause harm to another human being.

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And so I've been a nurse for five years.

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and right when the pandemic happened,

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I transferred the postpartum and right away,

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I felt like it was such a blessing

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because I was so happy to finally work with newborns.

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They're healthy and they're a blessing.

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and we're all wearing these masks

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and everything was just really depressing.

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that a lot of people poke babies to do these different tests

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and check their blood sugars and give them shots

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and all these things, it didn't feel right.

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And so I started speaking up then

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before these vaccines ever even came out, the COVID vaccines.

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And so right away, I already started to feel

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like I didn't fit in there on postpartum

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because I didn't like poking babies.

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And then, so anyway, I just kind of stayed quiet

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besides the times that I was talked to from my boss.

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And I noticed that these moms and babies

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were generally healthy and I would send them home.

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And then once these shots came out,

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these COVID shots came out around March,

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I noticed that babies were,

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there was an increased number of babies

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that were passing away in utero.

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So before the shots ever came out,

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there would be maybe one per month in the hospital.

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And then once these shots started coming out,

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it was becoming more frequent like once per week.

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And I started really asking a lot of questions

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like why are these babies dying?

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And all the people around me were like,

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oh, I think it's the pesticides or something in the water.

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Nobody wanted to put it together

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that these shots are harming people.

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And so I was just like really frustrated with work

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because it's just wrong, it's evil, what's happening.

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And then in September of 2022,

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I received an email that went out to over 200 nurses.

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And the first part of the email said, as you all know,

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there's been an increase in fetal demises.

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And in the month of August, there were 22 of them.

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And that's a record number for the hospital

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that we've never had 22 before.

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And this number is projected to increase.

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And so I just felt so disgusted.

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I'm like, I cannot believe there's not an outrage about this.

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Why are people not talking about this?

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And so right away I copy and pasted that email

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and I sent it to somebody

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who works for Children's Health Defense.

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And from there, that email sort of went viral.

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But, and at first I wanted to be anonymous

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because I was embarrassed that I was exposing this email.

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But then after thinking about it enough,

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I was like, no, God put me in this position

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and I'm not backing down.

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Also, my mom was murdered in November, 2021

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by the hospital protocols.

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She was given remdesivir and they treated her so badly

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for being unvaccinated.

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And they treated me also equally just as badly.

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They lied to me and wouldn't let me in to see her.

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And I knew she was dying and they wouldn't let me save her.

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And so that lit a fire in me.

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And so when I got this email in August or September,

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I couldn't not stay quiet.

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I had to send it, I had to expose it.

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And so I did and I have no regrets.

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My work did withhold a $5,000 retention bonus from me.

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And when I asked why I didn't receive that bonus,

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because I'm still employed,

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they said it's because I broke the rules,

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because I exposed that email.

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And so that's where we're at today,

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but I am still employed.

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And I just want people to,

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I think that we need to go back to informed consent

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and people need to stop harming people, especially babies.

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Thank you very much, Michelle.

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I got to tell you that Michelle is the bravest

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and most courageous nurse I've ever met in my life.

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And I love what this woman stands for

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and what her heart stands for.

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And courage is contagious.

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And because of what she did, we have amplified.

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I no longer am the only OBGYN standing by myself.

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We have others, many more now coming out

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because Michelle has been courageous.

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And now I have two other OBGYN whistleblowers in Florida.

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And I'm gonna name them out

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because they're out of the closet and they're strong.

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And they have seen the exact same things Michelle

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and I have seen, which I will vouch

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for the veracity is going on and I will stake my life.

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And I'm honored to announce here too,

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that our publication, which has been in pre-print

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for six months now, will be officially published

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in a major peer reviewed medical journal.

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And not only will it be published,

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it is going to be featured as a lead article.

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And so this is God willing going to make a huge impression

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on the global obstetrical community.

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I don't have high hopes of that

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because they've ignored everything else.

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But I do wanna state that this is

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the most important publication of my career

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and it's irrefutable and undeniable.

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Having said that, I really wanna listen

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and my dear friend, Curtis Cost, whom I love dearly

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and does an amazing job and he's a brother.

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And I would like for him to give us his story

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and his knowledge of his vaccine and his experiences.

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Take it away.

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Thank you that's just so obvious.

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It's always an honor to be in your presence

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and I greatly appreciate you and your courage.

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Same thing, Michelle.

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Just brief background on who I am

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for those who may not know.

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I wrote a book entitled, Vaccines Are Dangerous.

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The first edition of which came out in 1991.

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So I've been at this for over 30 years,

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warning people the vaccines are extremely dangerous

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and they don't work.

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And so when this whole COVID thing came around,

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it was no surprise that I was even before

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it was on the market, I was saying,

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this was gonna be the deadliest vaccine ever.

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And I did an interview with Dr. David Rasnik

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and in the interview, I said on the air

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that I felt that this vaccine had the potential

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to kill billions of people.

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And he immediately corrected me,

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he said, Curtis, maybe not billions,

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maybe hundreds of millions,

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but it could have been more than a month or less

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that he got back.

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He said, Curtis, I think you're right.

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We don't do something, this vaccine has the potential

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to kill billions of people.

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And so I was not surprised,

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even though I wasn't aware of the situation

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with the giving of these COVID shots to pregnant women

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until Dr. Shasta Erickson put me in contact with Dr. Thorpe

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because I've been to so many angles to this whole issue.

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That was one that I really explored.

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And when I did my first interview with Dr. Thorpe

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and Michelle Gershwin, I was blown away.

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I mean, I've seen lots of evil,

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many bad things over the years

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because of the research that I do.

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And I developed a very thick skin,

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pretty much like doctors have to do.

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I mean, in order for them to be effective,

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they can't be squeamish, obviously.

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But this one really got to me

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because they're harming, they are poisoning,

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they are attacking pregnant women.

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And that's like a sacred violation.

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That you're not supposed to harm women

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or pregnant women especially, pregnant women in the baby.

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It really profoundly shook me up

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that there are people out there,

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I'm not even sure if they qualify

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as being a part of the human race anymore,

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that are so evil that for profit and other agendas,

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they will put known poisons into the body

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of innocent, trusting pregnant women

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and their fetuses, their babies to be.

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It shook me up so bad that I made a commitment

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to try and do what I can.

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And so I did do a, I did publish the interview

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I did with Dr. Thorpe and Michelle on my Substack

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and I put it out to my networks to get out there

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and the feedback has been overwhelming.

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And I then followed up with a forum

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which I had Dr. Thorpe, Michelle Gershwin

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and several other doctors that Dr. Thorpe brought to me,

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Dr. Biss, Dr. Rutherford and Dr. Dan,

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I can't remember his last name.

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McDyer.

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McDyer, right.

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And we did this forum that's monumental.

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I mean, as much as Dr. Thorpe and Michelle had conveyed

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in the first interview, this will just

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blew it out of the water.

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The information, I mean, the fact is 80% increase

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in miscarriages and all the adverse reactions

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that pregnant women are having, excess bleeding,

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changes in the average growth rate

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among the pregnant women who got the vaccine

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and all the other details that Michelle

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and all the others put out was just mind boggling.

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I know Dr. Thorpe, Michelle will go into more

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of those details today, but it was just

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absolutely mind boggling.

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So I've been pushing the forum,

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the feedback has been overwhelming.

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And I wrote an article for the publication,

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the final call newspaper.

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That's the official paper of the nation of Islam.

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Nation of Islam has been around for many years

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and they're very popular in the black community,

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their publication, the final call.

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And I was sitting with my fingers crossed

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because I spent a lot of things in publications

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that don't get published.

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It's frustrating, it's been hours, days,

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researching, writing something that doesn't get published,

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but they did publish it this past Thursday.

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And their publication is one of the few

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national black newspapers across the country.

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And they have massive following within their own community,

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but also in the general African-American community

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and other groups that read it

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because they do great research.

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And so now I understand the circulation is like

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over 625,000 nationwide.

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That's not even counting the carry along

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that is other people reading the same paper

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in the same household.

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So the word is out now, especially in the black community,

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they know that these vaccines are dangerous

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and this is gonna be a hot topic in the black community.

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I'm very grateful to Shasta Erickson

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for making all this possible,

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Dr. Thorpe and the others, but I still wanna go further.

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This really needs a number one issue

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for us across the country

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that this is an attack on fertility.

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They are attacking the women,

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they are attacking unborn babies.

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And Michelle was saying 20 at her hospital a month or more.

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Now how many hospitals deliver babies across the country?

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And you multiply 20 or whatever that number might be.

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I don't know what that number is,

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I'm sure it's a big number on a monthly basis.

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This is genocide.

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This is horrendous.

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You can correct me for wrong,

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but I would venture to speculate

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that it would be safer to give rat poison

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to a pregnant woman than this COVID shot.

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Cause at least we know what rat poison is

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and we would know what to do to try and reverse it.

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We don't know what's in these COVID shots.

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All we have really is some doctors have access

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to some vials and have uncovered some horrifying things,

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but we don't have a official list of everything

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in these vaccines.

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And you get each company, I don't wanna name the name,

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but you know the companies,

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each one has their own formulation.

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We don't know what these things will do.

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We don't know what's in all of them.

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And of what we do know from reliable sources is terrifying.

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In fact, I spoke with Dr. Pilevsky recently,

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and I was asking for an assessment

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of just how bad this COVID shot is.

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I mean, what is the long-reaching implication of this?

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And he told me point blank, and I forget,

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he said, Curtis, we will not be able to assess

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the full damage these COVID shots are doing in our lifetime.

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So in our lifetime, we will not know.

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That's how bad.

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Dr. Pilevsky, anybody knows who he is.

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He's brilliant.

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He testifies before political groups all the time.

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He does lots of interviews.

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He's absolutely brilliant.

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And he's a classmate of mine,

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we both went to Vassar College for what it's worth,

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but I was shaken up by his revelation.

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So they're giving experimental dangerous vaccines.

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This vaccine's already killed more people

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than all the other vaccines combined

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over the past 30 years.

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And this is right, you can get it right out of their research.

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So it's the deadliest vaccine ever,

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and they wanna give it to pregnant women.

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In fact, in my interview with Dr. Thorpe,

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he said something else that really shook me up.

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He said that the documents that have been revealed

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from Pfizer's submissions to the FDA

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showed that they had already done experiments

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on rats and mice, on pregnant rats and mice.

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And they were coming out with the fetuses were deformed,

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being born with no eyes, I believe no brain and all.

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Who on earth could possibly think of doing something,

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giving something like that to a pregnant woman?

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That's the level of evil

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that I think the average person cannot comprehend.

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Are these people, they should be prosecuted.

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I mean, these are criminals.

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And even if they didn't invent the vaccine,

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anyone who's given these vaccines with this knowledge,

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they need to be prosecuted as accomplices

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to attempted murder.

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I'm sorry, I'm not a lawyer, but that's my view

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based on what I've learned from Dr. Thorpe,

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Michelle and all the others.

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This is genocide, this is murder,

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and they all should be prosecuted.

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I mean, heads of hospitals need to be put on trial.

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Some of these hospitals maybe should be shut down.

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And these doctors and scientists and nurses

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who are going along with, they all should be prosecuted.

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I'm sorry, that's my view.

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0:29:20 --> 0:29:22
I must take your hand on behalf of any organization.

608
0:29:22 --> 0:29:24
That's my view.

609
0:29:24 --> 0:29:26
And so this is a wake-up call.

610
0:29:26 --> 0:29:28
I hope everyone here will take the time

611
0:29:28 --> 0:29:32
and go to my Substack, CurtisCost.substack.com

612
0:29:32 --> 0:29:34
and watch the forum that I did with Dr. Thorpe

613
0:29:34 --> 0:29:36
and Michelle and all the others.

614
0:29:36 --> 0:29:37
It's fantastic.

615
0:29:40 --> 0:29:43
Mind boggling, it's emotionally challenging.

616
0:29:43 --> 0:29:45
It's something everybody needs to watch.

617
0:29:45 --> 0:29:48
You can watch it for free on my Substack.

618
0:29:48 --> 0:29:52
And I'm gonna continue to push this out there to the public

619
0:29:52 --> 0:29:53
as hard as I can.

620
0:29:53 --> 0:29:56
I think we need to reach out to all the colleges

621
0:29:56 --> 0:29:58
and get them involved, let them know what's happening.

622
0:29:58 --> 0:29:59
Colleges have newspapers.

623
0:29:59 --> 0:30:02
I mean, I published books.

624
0:30:02 --> 0:30:04
One of the easiest ways to get things out there

625
0:30:04 --> 0:30:06
is through college newspapers, college radio shows.

626
0:30:06 --> 0:30:08
And all these colleges are interconnected

627
0:30:08 --> 0:30:09
with all the others.

628
0:30:09 --> 0:30:10
We need to reach them.

629
0:30:10 --> 0:30:13
And all these women's health groups,

630
0:30:13 --> 0:30:14
we need to reach out to all of them

631
0:30:14 --> 0:30:16
and let them know what's going on.

632
0:30:16 --> 0:30:17
They need to hear this information.

633
0:30:17 --> 0:30:19
Thank you.

634
0:30:19 --> 0:30:20
Thanks, Curtis.

635
0:30:20 --> 0:30:21
That was awesome.

636
0:30:21 --> 0:30:25
And now I think the panel members in the audience

637
0:30:25 --> 0:30:29
realize why Curtis Koss is my hero

638
0:30:29 --> 0:30:32
and why I love the man as a brother.

639
0:30:32 --> 0:30:35
I will also say this, Curtis,

640
0:30:35 --> 0:30:38
you mentioned something that just came into my mind.

641
0:30:38 --> 0:30:41
You said, this is more dangerous than rat poison.

642
0:30:42 --> 0:30:45
And we use rat poison in pregnancy.

643
0:30:45 --> 0:30:47
It's called Coumadin.

644
0:30:47 --> 0:30:51
Coumadin was the original anticoagulant

645
0:30:51 --> 0:30:55
and it was called warfarin initially

646
0:30:55 --> 0:30:59
because it was actually developed by funding

647
0:30:59 --> 0:31:03
from the Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation.

648
0:31:03 --> 0:31:06
And thus they named it warfarin.

649
0:31:06 --> 0:31:08
Coumadin, it is rat poison.

650
0:31:08 --> 0:31:10
We use rat poison.

651
0:31:11 --> 0:31:16
Occasionally we use Coumadin in pregnancy in cases,

652
0:31:16 --> 0:31:18
but it is dangerous.

653
0:31:18 --> 0:31:21
But you're absolutely 1000% correct.

654
0:31:21 --> 0:31:22
I love that analogy.

655
0:31:22 --> 0:31:26
This vaccine is much worse than Coumadin, much worse.

656
0:31:26 --> 0:31:28
I've used Coumadin in pregnancy,

657
0:31:28 --> 0:31:30
especially patients who are pregnant

658
0:31:30 --> 0:31:34
that are very high risk for blood clots

659
0:31:34 --> 0:31:37
with artificial valves in pregnancy.

660
0:31:37 --> 0:31:40
The other thing that I would just ask

661
0:31:40 --> 0:31:45
and we can back channel on this is that I want to speak.

662
0:31:46 --> 0:31:51
I wanna speak to the nation of Islam.

663
0:31:52 --> 0:31:57
I met Dr. Christina Parks who you probably know well.

664
0:31:59 --> 0:32:00
I hope you know her.

665
0:32:00 --> 0:32:05
And we met at the Mississippi State Senate earlier this week.

666
0:32:05 --> 0:32:07
And we met at the, I believe we met at the

667
0:32:11 --> 0:32:13
Washington DC Senate as well.

668
0:32:13 --> 0:32:16
I think she was there, but anyways, she invited me

669
0:32:16 --> 0:32:18
to speak at the nation of Islam.

670
0:32:18 --> 0:32:23
And I really want to speak and present our data

671
0:32:23 --> 0:32:27
to my brothers and sisters at the nation of Islam.

672
0:32:28 --> 0:32:31
So anyways, thank you for that incredible overview.

673
0:32:31 --> 0:32:35
And I also wanna, one third thing about Curtis,

674
0:32:35 --> 0:32:40
I put him in a category with Dr. Andrew Wakefield.

675
0:32:40 --> 0:32:44
Okay, these guys aren't slouches like me,

676
0:32:44 --> 0:32:48
Johnny come lately whose eyes have only been opened

677
0:32:50 --> 0:32:55
recently like 2010, my eyes were opened.

678
0:32:57 --> 0:32:59
And I made a lot of mistakes with vaccines.

679
0:32:59 --> 0:33:04
I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I was pushing vaccines

680
0:33:04 --> 0:33:07
before 2010, I pushed them in,

681
0:33:07 --> 0:33:12
even the influenza vaccine in pregnancy.

682
0:33:12 --> 0:33:13
And I deeply regret that.

683
0:33:14 --> 0:33:15
I know now I've made a mistake.

684
0:33:15 --> 0:33:17
I pushed vaccines in my kids.

685
0:33:17 --> 0:33:21
And so, I'm a human being, I'm allowed to make mistakes,

686
0:33:21 --> 0:33:26
but Curtis cost, Dr. Andy Wakefield,

687
0:33:28 --> 0:33:31
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Attorney, Esquire,

688
0:33:31 --> 0:33:36
these guys had their eyes opened up long before I did.

689
0:33:37 --> 0:33:42
And with that being said, Charles, Stephen,

690
0:33:42 --> 0:33:44
where would you like to go from here?

691
0:33:46 --> 0:33:50
So thank you, Jim and Curtis and Michelle,

692
0:33:50 --> 0:33:52
who had to go, Michelle Gershman.

693
0:33:53 --> 0:33:55
Stephen traditionally asked the first question,

694
0:33:55 --> 0:33:57
so Stephen to you and then we've got hands up already.

695
0:33:57 --> 0:33:59
So Stephen.

696
0:34:01 --> 0:34:06
So James, you remember that I was asking you

697
0:34:06 --> 0:34:08
about what we need to do with education,

698
0:34:08 --> 0:34:11
not just with doctors, but with the public?

699
0:34:12 --> 0:34:14
They need to understand what has happened to them.

700
0:34:14 --> 0:34:18
In my opinion, everybody has been severely,

701
0:34:18 --> 0:34:22
everybody on the planet has been severely

702
0:34:22 --> 0:34:25
psychologically tortured into a state of Stockholm syndrome

703
0:34:25 --> 0:34:26
by their own government.

704
0:34:26 --> 0:34:30
Now, if that isn't going to make people ill,

705
0:34:30 --> 0:34:32
I don't know what will.

706
0:34:32 --> 0:34:34
So we need to explain this to them

707
0:34:35 --> 0:34:37
in language that is understandable

708
0:34:37 --> 0:34:42
and also in language which makes them want to understand.

709
0:34:43 --> 0:34:46
In other words, not written in civil service speak.

710
0:34:47 --> 0:34:50
So I wonder whether you've had any thoughts about that.

711
0:34:50 --> 0:34:54
There's just, there are so many aspects to this, as you know,

712
0:34:54 --> 0:34:56
that's just on the medical side,

713
0:34:56 --> 0:34:59
but then all the other things, it's not just medical.

714
0:35:00 --> 0:35:04
So I just want, you may not have had time

715
0:35:04 --> 0:35:06
to even consider it, but if you haven't,

716
0:35:06 --> 0:35:10
then please, maybe you have some ideas in your head.

717
0:35:10 --> 0:35:12
Yeah, yeah, I do.

718
0:35:12 --> 0:35:15
I think that the point I was trying to make earlier

719
0:35:15 --> 0:35:18
to your question was probably too long-winded,

720
0:35:18 --> 0:35:21
but you're doing exactly what we need to do.

721
0:35:21 --> 0:35:23
This is fifth generation warfare.

722
0:35:25 --> 0:35:27
This has never gone on before.

723
0:35:27 --> 0:35:32
I mean, just go back to Germany in the 1930s and the 1940s.

724
0:35:33 --> 0:35:36
You don't look at, that was the Third Reich

725
0:35:36 --> 0:35:39
and they were very evil people

726
0:35:39 --> 0:35:41
and everybody knew they were evil

727
0:35:41 --> 0:35:44
and they were killing not on a global basis,

728
0:35:44 --> 0:35:46
they were killing on a regional basis.

729
0:35:47 --> 0:35:48
And everybody in the world knew

730
0:35:48 --> 0:35:50
that the Third Reich was evil

731
0:35:50 --> 0:35:53
and knew that they needed to be destroyed.

732
0:35:53 --> 0:35:56
Now compare that with what's going on now.

733
0:35:57 --> 0:36:00
This is global, it's mass killing.

734
0:36:01 --> 0:36:03
The evidence was clearly there,

735
0:36:03 --> 0:36:05
but the people don't know they're being killed.

736
0:36:05 --> 0:36:06
Exactly.

737
0:36:06 --> 0:36:10
The only way we can address,

738
0:36:10 --> 0:36:12
this is classic fifth generation warfare,

739
0:36:12 --> 0:36:15
there's never been anything else like it in the world.

740
0:36:15 --> 0:36:20
Just my government spent over $13 billion of my tax money,

741
0:36:21 --> 0:36:26
our tax money to dispel this lethal misinformation

742
0:36:26 --> 0:36:28
all over the world and kill people all over the world

743
0:36:28 --> 0:36:30
and they have no safety data.

744
0:36:31 --> 0:36:32
In fact, they have the opposite.

745
0:36:32 --> 0:36:35
So what you're doing, Stephen,

746
0:36:37 --> 0:36:42
is this is what you're doing every week, twice a week,

747
0:36:43 --> 0:36:45
you're fighting fifth generation,

748
0:36:45 --> 0:36:48
you are giving real information

749
0:36:48 --> 0:36:50
instead of misinformation to the masses.

750
0:36:50 --> 0:36:52
That's the only way I can see to fight this

751
0:36:52 --> 0:36:55
and then for me to reach out,

752
0:36:55 --> 0:36:57
which I've been attempting to do,

753
0:36:57 --> 0:37:02
the clear problems that I have with my OBGYN colleagues,

754
0:37:05 --> 0:37:08
why are we so diluted?

755
0:37:08 --> 0:37:10
I made a bunch of texts yesterday,

756
0:37:10 --> 0:37:12
there's been a standing joke,

757
0:37:14 --> 0:37:16
in many, many decades gone past

758
0:37:16 --> 0:37:19
that only the morons went into OBGYN

759
0:37:19 --> 0:37:22
in order to qualify for an OBGYN residency,

760
0:37:22 --> 0:37:24
you had to be in the bottom 10%

761
0:37:24 --> 0:37:27
of the medical school of class, yuck, yuck, yuck,

762
0:37:27 --> 0:37:28
that was a joke.

763
0:37:28 --> 0:37:31
And so I kind of expanded on that yesterday

764
0:37:31 --> 0:37:33
in several public tweets

765
0:37:34 --> 0:37:37
that have been replicated quite a few times.

766
0:37:37 --> 0:37:39
It's like, the standard joke

767
0:37:39 --> 0:37:41
with the lower 10% of the class,

768
0:37:42 --> 0:37:44
in order to go into OBGYN,

769
0:37:44 --> 0:37:49
I mean, are we really that stupid collectively

770
0:37:49 --> 0:37:52
as OBGYN docs that we would fall

771
0:37:52 --> 0:37:56
for pushing a completely novel experimental drug

772
0:37:56 --> 0:37:59
in pregnancy that was never necessary,

773
0:37:59 --> 0:38:01
never effective and never safe.

774
0:38:02 --> 0:38:04
In the whole history of humanity,

775
0:38:04 --> 0:38:09
we've never breached the sacrosanct golden rule of pregnancy

776
0:38:09 --> 0:38:13
and now all of a sudden, 99% of you are pushing this,

777
0:38:13 --> 0:38:15
have you gone mad?

778
0:38:15 --> 0:38:18
Did you learn nothing from Ignaz Phillips-Somowicz

779
0:38:18 --> 0:38:21
or from thalidomide or DES?

780
0:38:21 --> 0:38:23
Let's rethink this.

781
0:38:25 --> 0:38:26
Sure.

782
0:38:27 --> 0:38:30
And so James, you'll understand this.

783
0:38:30 --> 0:38:33
So you went to medical school and I did too.

784
0:38:33 --> 0:38:37
We were taught about ethics when I was at medical ethics.

785
0:38:37 --> 0:38:40
It was really big, the medical school I went to.

786
0:38:41 --> 0:38:43
And I remembered what we were taught,

787
0:38:45 --> 0:38:49
but I was shocked when there was a reunion for our year,

788
0:38:49 --> 0:38:54
the year that I graduated, decided to have a reunion.

789
0:38:54 --> 0:38:57
And they were passing emails around the world

790
0:38:57 --> 0:39:02
and I wrote to them in 2020, 2021, 2022,

791
0:39:03 --> 0:39:08
Christmas email from Stephen Frost to all these doctors

792
0:39:08 --> 0:39:11
who qualified with me, went to the same lectures

793
0:39:11 --> 0:39:14
about medical ethics and all the other things

794
0:39:14 --> 0:39:15
that have gone wrong with medicine.

795
0:39:15 --> 0:39:20
And not one of the people in my year replied to me,

796
0:39:22 --> 0:39:26
even privately, nevermind to the whole.

797
0:39:26 --> 0:39:29
So I was absolutely stunned.

798
0:39:29 --> 0:39:31
I thought that, so some of my friends were there

799
0:39:31 --> 0:39:34
from medical school, quiet.

800
0:39:34 --> 0:39:38
None of them wrote to me privately, nevermind to the group.

801
0:39:39 --> 0:39:41
Three years in succession.

802
0:39:41 --> 0:39:46
And the last was Christmas 2022, just two months ago,

803
0:39:49 --> 0:39:51
just over two months.

804
0:39:51 --> 0:39:54
They're in a cult, James, they're in a cult.

805
0:39:54 --> 0:39:58
These doctors are in a deadly cult.

806
0:39:58 --> 0:40:00
Cults are usually often deadly.

807
0:40:00 --> 0:40:02
This one's very deadly.

808
0:40:03 --> 0:40:05
I just wonder what you think of that,

809
0:40:05 --> 0:40:08
about my colleagues from, sorry,

810
0:40:08 --> 0:40:11
my fellow students from medical school,

811
0:40:12 --> 0:40:14
terrified of even engaging with me.

812
0:40:14 --> 0:40:17
So, they could have said I was wrong.

813
0:40:17 --> 0:40:18
They didn't do that.

814
0:40:18 --> 0:40:19
They didn't dare to do it.

815
0:40:19 --> 0:40:21
They wanted to carry on doing what they were doing.

816
0:40:21 --> 0:40:23
I don't know what they're thinking.

817
0:40:23 --> 0:40:25
Doing what they were doing and not take responsibility

818
0:40:25 --> 0:40:30
for anything, not reply to me, just extraordinary.

819
0:40:31 --> 0:40:33
So what do you think of that?

820
0:40:33 --> 0:40:35
I think it's absolutely horrible.

821
0:40:35 --> 0:40:37
And I don't want you to feel alone, brother.

822
0:40:37 --> 0:40:40
You're in the midst of a new family,

823
0:40:40 --> 0:40:44
including admirers, including myself

824
0:40:44 --> 0:40:47
and probably everybody else in the world, our new family.

825
0:40:47 --> 0:40:50
I've suffered the exact same thing.

826
0:40:50 --> 0:40:53
I'm a laughing stock of the world.

827
0:40:53 --> 0:40:54
I'm a joke.

828
0:40:54 --> 0:40:55
I'm mocked, I'm scoffed.

829
0:40:55 --> 0:40:56
I'm really-

830
0:40:56 --> 0:40:57
Yes, James, they mock you,

831
0:40:57 --> 0:41:00
but they're terrified of you.

832
0:41:00 --> 0:41:01
That's the reality.

833
0:41:01 --> 0:41:04
They're absolutely terrified of coming near you

834
0:41:04 --> 0:41:08
in case you ask them a question that they can't answer.

835
0:41:08 --> 0:41:09
What do you think?

836
0:41:09 --> 0:41:12
I think that you're right.

837
0:41:12 --> 0:41:13
They're really afraid.

838
0:41:13 --> 0:41:15
And the only way they can deal with me

839
0:41:15 --> 0:41:17
is by laughing and mocking me.

840
0:41:17 --> 0:41:18
Correct.

841
0:41:18 --> 0:41:19
Correct.

842
0:41:19 --> 0:41:23
But I take that as a badge of courage.

843
0:41:23 --> 0:41:25
My skin has really fit because

844
0:41:27 --> 0:41:31
God has given me so many blessings and so many gifts.

845
0:41:31 --> 0:41:36
And one of the most important gifts that he's given me

846
0:41:37 --> 0:41:39
besides the intimate knowledge of my savior

847
0:41:40 --> 0:41:42
is really, he's given me a huge truth

848
0:41:42 --> 0:41:45
like he's given everybody else on this panel.

849
0:41:45 --> 0:41:47
And I wanna point out to you that

850
0:41:51 --> 0:41:53
that is a huge gift.

851
0:41:53 --> 0:41:57
And if you have the truth, everything else be damned,

852
0:41:57 --> 0:41:59
including what other people,

853
0:41:59 --> 0:42:01
including family members think of you.

854
0:42:01 --> 0:42:05
You have a valuable gift and to whom much is given,

855
0:42:05 --> 0:42:07
much is expected.

856
0:42:08 --> 0:42:13
Dr. Steven Truss is doing what he's been asked to do

857
0:42:14 --> 0:42:19
by his creator by doing and disseminating truth.

858
0:42:20 --> 0:42:22
And I don't wanna get too deep.

859
0:42:22 --> 0:42:26
James, so I never kind of planned this.

860
0:42:26 --> 0:42:29
It was the only way in my mind that I could survive

861
0:42:29 --> 0:42:31
in extraordinary circumstances in my country.

862
0:42:34 --> 0:42:36
So I don't really,

863
0:42:36 --> 0:42:40
I just had to do what I didn't even realize

864
0:42:40 --> 0:42:43
that it was in any way important.

865
0:42:43 --> 0:42:46
I just, it was a survival mechanism for me

866
0:42:46 --> 0:42:48
to connect with people around the world.

867
0:42:49 --> 0:42:50
Sorry.

868
0:42:50 --> 0:42:53
It's exactly what you're commanded to do.

869
0:42:53 --> 0:42:56
And I don't wanna get too deeply spiritual here,

870
0:42:56 --> 0:42:58
but I do wanna point out that this is a battle

871
0:42:58 --> 0:43:00
against good versus evil.

872
0:43:01 --> 0:43:05
It's a pure spiritual battle right out of Ephesians 6.

873
0:43:07 --> 0:43:12
And so I think that there's so much deception going on

874
0:43:15 --> 0:43:20
and we need to just expose the truth

875
0:43:20 --> 0:43:23
and keep doing what you're doing.

876
0:43:25 --> 0:43:27
James, you're a wonderful human being,

877
0:43:27 --> 0:43:29
but you're a great doctor.

878
0:43:29 --> 0:43:31
I can tell that.

879
0:43:31 --> 0:43:34
You couldn't tell a lie if you tried, I'm sure.

880
0:43:34 --> 0:43:38
Well, you could tell a white lie maybe like us all,

881
0:43:38 --> 0:43:39
but nothing major.

882
0:43:39 --> 0:43:43
And so, but you have accepted,

883
0:43:43 --> 0:43:47
your humanity shines through when you speak.

884
0:43:47 --> 0:43:49
People will listen to you.

885
0:43:49 --> 0:43:51
And I wonder whether,

886
0:43:51 --> 0:43:54
so you have, when you speak, you sound authentic.

887
0:43:54 --> 0:43:56
And I think that's what people look for,

888
0:43:56 --> 0:43:58
what human beings look for.

889
0:43:58 --> 0:44:02
They look for authenticity in other human beings.

890
0:44:02 --> 0:44:06
And if they have authenticity, they listen to them.

891
0:44:06 --> 0:44:08
And I think that you and I maybe should work,

892
0:44:08 --> 0:44:09
so we're both doctors.

893
0:44:09 --> 0:44:13
We could, okay, you're in America and I'm in the UK,

894
0:44:13 --> 0:44:15
but maybe we could work on messaging,

895
0:44:16 --> 0:44:20
the kind of messaging that we'll get through to people

896
0:44:20 --> 0:44:21
at different levels.

897
0:44:21 --> 0:44:24
We're not kind of, we can't really work out

898
0:44:24 --> 0:44:27
where people are, but maybe we can have five

899
0:44:27 --> 0:44:32
or 10 different levels and put out our own propaganda.

900
0:44:32 --> 0:44:33
So we don't have to prove anything,

901
0:44:33 --> 0:44:35
everything beyond reasonable doubt.

902
0:44:35 --> 0:44:36
This is my opinion.

903
0:44:36 --> 0:44:38
I'm just asking you whether you think

904
0:44:38 --> 0:44:40
there's anything in it.

905
0:44:40 --> 0:44:42
We need to put out our own version

906
0:44:42 --> 0:44:45
of what's happened in the last three years.

907
0:44:45 --> 0:44:47
And it's been absolutely extraordinary

908
0:44:47 --> 0:44:49
what's happened in the last three years

909
0:44:49 --> 0:44:51
with everyone in the world, as I said earlier,

910
0:44:51 --> 0:44:54
tortured into it by their own governments

911
0:44:54 --> 0:44:56
into a state of Stockholm syndrome.

912
0:44:56 --> 0:44:59
I cannot think of anything worse.

913
0:44:59 --> 0:45:03
So they don't even realize that they've been tortured

914
0:45:03 --> 0:45:04
by their own governments

915
0:45:04 --> 0:45:06
because they've got Stockholm syndrome

916
0:45:07 --> 0:45:10
and it's been done deliberately worldwide.

917
0:45:12 --> 0:45:17
Well, sir, I have many Brit heroes and you're one of them,

918
0:45:17 --> 0:45:22
but the other Brit hero that I have is Sir Karl Popper.

919
0:45:22 --> 0:45:24
And I think you're well aware of him.

920
0:45:24 --> 0:45:25
Yeah, I know.

921
0:45:25 --> 0:45:28
But very famous philosopher and scientist

922
0:45:29 --> 0:45:31
of the century gone past.

923
0:45:31 --> 0:45:33
But Sir Karl Popper said,

924
0:45:33 --> 0:45:38
you know that theories are never proven.

925
0:45:40 --> 0:45:42
They can really only be disproven

926
0:45:42 --> 0:45:45
and they're disproven in only one of two ways.

927
0:45:46 --> 0:45:50
Basically, you can buy falsification

928
0:45:50 --> 0:45:54
and refutation of this words from.

929
0:45:54 --> 0:45:59
And all of us here, we have falsified,

930
0:45:59 --> 0:46:03
we have literally shattered the false narrative

931
0:46:03 --> 0:46:05
of COVID-19 on the vaccine.

932
0:46:05 --> 0:46:08
I mean, we've completely falsified it.

933
0:46:08 --> 0:46:13
So now it's incumbent upon your people

934
0:46:13 --> 0:46:17
that are critical of our theory or our viewpoint

935
0:46:17 --> 0:46:21
to falsify ours and they can't do it with real data.

936
0:46:21 --> 0:46:24
So they can't do it.

937
0:46:24 --> 0:46:29
Science progresses one funeral at a time.

938
0:46:29 --> 0:46:32
And there's a lot more of them dying than there are us.

939
0:46:32 --> 0:46:35
Unfortunately, I don't say that gleefully.

940
0:46:35 --> 0:46:39
Not to get back, and I don't wanna harp too much

941
0:46:39 --> 0:46:41
on the spiritual basis for this,

942
0:46:41 --> 0:46:44
but I do have an important analogy

943
0:46:44 --> 0:46:46
because I was just reading my good book this morning

944
0:46:46 --> 0:46:49
and going through some trauma and some attacks here

945
0:46:49 --> 0:46:54
and there, and I was reading Daniel.

946
0:46:57 --> 0:47:00
In Daniel chapter 12, it says,

947
0:47:00 --> 0:47:03
Daniel, 2,500 years ago,

948
0:47:03 --> 0:47:04
God spoke through his prophet Daniel.

949
0:47:04 --> 0:47:07
He said, in the end, there's gonna be the worst times

950
0:47:07 --> 0:47:09
that this world has ever seen.

951
0:47:09 --> 0:47:14
Check, that sounds like something we could be in.

952
0:47:14 --> 0:47:16
And the next thing that we'll see,

953
0:47:16 --> 0:47:20
it basically says is that most will be deluded,

954
0:47:20 --> 0:47:24
but in that time, there will be those who shine

955
0:47:24 --> 0:47:26
with the light of the stars.

956
0:47:27 --> 0:47:29
And I'm thinking to myself,

957
0:47:32 --> 0:47:36
who are those people that in the end,

958
0:47:36 --> 0:47:41
with mass deception, will be shining light like the stars,

959
0:47:42 --> 0:47:44
just for everybody to think about?

960
0:47:44 --> 0:47:46
And 2,800 years ago,

961
0:47:46 --> 0:47:49
God spoke through his prophet Hosea,

962
0:47:49 --> 0:47:52
and he said 2,800 years ago,

963
0:47:52 --> 0:47:56
Hosea chapter four, verse six,

964
0:47:58 --> 0:48:02
God speaking to all of his creation, all us human beings,

965
0:48:02 --> 0:48:05
my people die for lack of knowledge.

966
0:48:05 --> 0:48:09
And I would ask the audience and ask the panelists,

967
0:48:09 --> 0:48:11
in the last 2,800 years,

968
0:48:11 --> 0:48:16
when has that prophecy been most solidly fulfilled?

969
0:48:20 --> 0:48:22
Yes, very well spoken.

970
0:48:24 --> 0:48:27
James, shall we see what questions,

971
0:48:27 --> 0:48:29
so Pascal Najadi.

972
0:48:29 --> 0:48:31
Yeah, Pascal's, okay.

973
0:48:31 --> 0:48:33
He had his hand up first.

974
0:48:33 --> 0:48:34
Pascal's next.

975
0:48:34 --> 0:48:34
So he's in Switzerland,

976
0:48:34 --> 0:48:37
I don't know whether you know Pascal James,

977
0:48:37 --> 0:48:40
but he's in Switzerland, he's a Swiss citizen.

978
0:48:40 --> 0:48:43
His father was assassinated,

979
0:48:43 --> 0:48:48
unfortunately in 2010, is that right, Pascal?

980
0:48:48 --> 0:48:50
In Kuala Lumpur.

981
0:48:50 --> 0:48:52
His father was an international banker,

982
0:48:52 --> 0:48:55
as is Pascal Najadi.

983
0:48:55 --> 0:48:59
And Pascal has used Swiss law,

984
0:48:59 --> 0:49:01
hopefully it's still there,

985
0:49:01 --> 0:49:02
Alex Brinkley.

986
0:49:02 --> 0:49:07
To lodge a criminal complaint against the Swiss president

987
0:49:07 --> 0:49:11
for his part in what's happened in the last three years

988
0:49:11 --> 0:49:14
as the health minister, I think that's true.

989
0:49:14 --> 0:49:16
So he's the current,

990
0:49:16 --> 0:49:18
he's a sitting president of Switzerland

991
0:49:18 --> 0:49:20
and Switzerland is an important country

992
0:49:20 --> 0:49:21
because as you know,

993
0:49:21 --> 0:49:24
many of the agencies who we don't like

994
0:49:24 --> 0:49:28
are the Bank of International Settlements, for example,

995
0:49:28 --> 0:49:30
the World Health Organization

996
0:49:30 --> 0:49:34
and many others as I understand it, are in Geneva.

997
0:49:34 --> 0:49:38
And of course the World Economic Forum meets in Switzerland too.

998
0:49:39 --> 0:49:43
So he has lodged this criminal complaint

999
0:49:43 --> 0:49:46
and it's now with the Swiss attorney general,

1000
0:49:46 --> 0:49:49
not a state as in the United States,

1001
0:49:49 --> 0:49:53
so the Swiss state's attorney general, as it were,

1002
0:49:53 --> 0:49:56
you know, the highest attorney general in Switzerland.

1003
0:49:56 --> 0:49:58
So Pascal, do you want to go ahead?

1004
0:49:58 --> 0:49:59
Yes, please.

1005
0:50:00 --> 0:50:01
Good morning, good evening, everybody.

1006
0:50:01 --> 0:50:03
And God bless all those souls

1007
0:50:03 --> 0:50:05
that we lost in this process.

1008
0:50:06 --> 0:50:09
What I'm going to say now is very tough.

1009
0:50:09 --> 0:50:11
I'm a military man, I'm a Swiss citizen.

1010
0:50:11 --> 0:50:14
My father was a co-founder of the WEF,

1011
0:50:14 --> 0:50:15
this devilish organization

1012
0:50:15 --> 0:50:20
and he left Klaus Schwab in disgust in 1982

1013
0:50:20 --> 0:50:23
because he realized that Klaus Schwab was gone

1014
0:50:23 --> 0:50:25
down a path of evil.

1015
0:50:25 --> 0:50:28
We had banks all over the world, but that's history.

1016
0:50:29 --> 0:50:34
I have indeed launched criminal proceedings

1017
0:50:34 --> 0:50:38
and progressing against the Swiss president, Alain Berset.

1018
0:50:38 --> 0:50:40
On this note, I would like to add,

1019
0:50:40 --> 0:50:43
for everybody to understand,

1020
0:50:43 --> 0:50:46
the presumption of innocence applies to him at all times.

1021
0:50:46 --> 0:50:49
This is a criminal procedure running

1022
0:50:49 --> 0:50:52
at the highest office of our Justice Department,

1023
0:50:52 --> 0:50:53
the Swiss Confederation.

1024
0:50:53 --> 0:50:57
And I'm dealing with the federal prosecutor

1025
0:50:57 --> 0:51:00
of the Swiss Confederation in this case.

1026
0:51:00 --> 0:51:02
And I have exchanged numerous letters,

1027
0:51:02 --> 0:51:03
registered mail with him.

1028
0:51:03 --> 0:51:07
I have a very good report and I must say,

1029
0:51:07 --> 0:51:11
I can tell you that with certainty today, up to date,

1030
0:51:11 --> 0:51:14
since the 2nd of December when I launched it last year,

1031
0:51:14 --> 0:51:17
this process is crystal clear.

1032
0:51:17 --> 0:51:19
Justice in Switzerland is autark

1033
0:51:19 --> 0:51:23
and up to now functions like a Swiss clock.

1034
0:51:23 --> 0:51:28
Okay, now I'm in the middle of evils then.

1035
0:51:31 --> 0:51:32
Please listen carefully.

1036
0:51:32 --> 0:51:33
I've sent you all a chart.

1037
0:51:33 --> 0:51:35
Did you get it?

1038
0:51:35 --> 0:51:40
Can you please put it up in the chat?

1039
0:51:42 --> 0:51:45
You mean, do you want us to share it, Pascal?

1040
0:51:45 --> 0:51:46
No, yeah, if you can.

1041
0:51:46 --> 0:51:47
I don't know how to do this.

1042
0:51:47 --> 0:51:48
I can do it, sorry.

1043
0:51:48 --> 0:51:50
I'm very sorry.

1044
0:51:50 --> 0:51:54
I'll make you a co-host, Pascal, so you can share it.

1045
0:51:54 --> 0:51:56
Very good, thank you, sir.

1046
0:51:56 --> 0:51:58
I'll do that right now.

1047
0:51:58 --> 0:51:59
How do I do this now?

1048
0:51:59 --> 0:52:02
Just go to share the screen.

1049
0:52:02 --> 0:52:04
Okay, can you see this?

1050
0:52:04 --> 0:52:05
Yep.

1051
0:52:05 --> 0:52:10
Okay, I've spent $10,000 in producing this page

1052
0:52:11 --> 0:52:13
with two lawyers and one engineer.

1053
0:52:14 --> 0:52:19
This is the exact one-to-one translation

1054
0:52:20 --> 0:52:24
of all the legal clauses that are stipulated

1055
0:52:24 --> 0:52:28
in the agreement that has been voted last Friday

1056
0:52:28 --> 0:52:29
without objection.

1057
0:52:29 --> 0:52:34
I repeat, 194 nations have adopted this draft.

1058
0:52:35 --> 0:52:40
It's called the WHO, W-H-O, sorry, CA plus agreement,

1059
0:52:41 --> 0:52:43
which they are now discussing in high speed

1060
0:52:43 --> 0:52:46
because it, I call it it, I don't call it Satan

1061
0:52:46 --> 0:52:49
because it doesn't deserve even that name.

1062
0:52:49 --> 0:52:50
For me, it's it.

1063
0:52:51 --> 0:52:56
It is scared of me and us because we know the truth.

1064
0:52:56 --> 0:52:58
We have to cut through the bush here, guys,

1065
0:52:58 --> 0:53:03
because, and ladies, this is no, we have no time left

1066
0:53:03 --> 0:53:07
to deliberate about mRNA, nanolipids, nanobots

1067
0:53:08 --> 0:53:11
or graphenoxidin, I have in my body.

1068
0:53:11 --> 0:53:13
I have three shots, my wife and my mother too.

1069
0:53:14 --> 0:53:18
I'm doing concrete things to stop this machine.

1070
0:53:18 --> 0:53:23
Now, the criminal case against my president is ongoing.

1071
0:53:23 --> 0:53:25
It has four criminal charges.

1072
0:53:25 --> 0:53:27
I'm now for the first time revealing

1073
0:53:27 --> 0:53:29
those four charges for you.

1074
0:53:29 --> 0:53:32
Please don't spread them on Twitter.

1075
0:53:32 --> 0:53:34
First, abuse of office.

1076
0:53:34 --> 0:53:38
Second, severe bodily harm.

1077
0:53:38 --> 0:53:40
It's a crime, all are crimes.

1078
0:53:40 --> 0:53:43
Third, election fraud.

1079
0:53:43 --> 0:53:46
Third, fourth, bringing in circulation

1080
0:53:46 --> 0:53:49
a potentially deadly virus.

1081
0:53:49 --> 0:53:51
Okay, that is running.

1082
0:53:51 --> 0:53:53
Justice is on her own.

1083
0:53:53 --> 0:53:54
I will not pressure her.

1084
0:53:54 --> 0:53:56
I will not do any press statements to pressure justice.

1085
0:53:56 --> 0:53:58
There's no need for that.

1086
0:53:58 --> 0:54:02
She's doing her job at her space and in her space

1087
0:54:02 --> 0:54:06
and at her pace.

1088
0:54:07 --> 0:54:09
This is an autopilot.

1089
0:54:09 --> 0:54:13
Now, this chart, does everybody understand

1090
0:54:13 --> 0:54:15
the consequences what this chart says?

1091
0:54:15 --> 0:54:17
Or may I ask different questions?

1092
0:54:17 --> 0:54:20
Does anybody not understand what this means?

1093
0:54:24 --> 0:54:26
And please pick up, don't only to put up the hand.

1094
0:54:26 --> 0:54:27
Let's have a discussion.

1095
0:54:27 --> 0:54:28
It's horrible.

1096
0:54:33 --> 0:54:34
Tom, you're-

1097
0:54:34 --> 0:54:35
We all understand Pascal.

1098
0:54:35 --> 0:54:36
We all understand Pascal.

1099
0:54:36 --> 0:54:40
No, there's some confusion about the treaty

1100
0:54:40 --> 0:54:43
versus the amendments.

1101
0:54:43 --> 0:54:45
Could you explain?

1102
0:54:45 --> 0:54:46
There's no confusion.

1103
0:54:46 --> 0:54:50
The confusion is done by WHO purpose.

1104
0:54:50 --> 0:54:53
They have three avenues of attack on humanity.

1105
0:54:53 --> 0:54:58
One, the IHR agreement, okay.

1106
0:54:58 --> 0:55:00
Two, this one, which is now the one

1107
0:55:00 --> 0:55:03
they have been speeding up around IHR,

1108
0:55:03 --> 0:55:05
which is even more drastic.

1109
0:55:05 --> 0:55:10
And the third measure is they are amending the constitution,

1110
0:55:11 --> 0:55:14
which is illegal by the way of WHO.

1111
0:55:14 --> 0:55:15
They call it constitution.

1112
0:55:15 --> 0:55:17
It's total nonsense.

1113
0:55:17 --> 0:55:19
It's a privately financed criminal NGO,

1114
0:55:19 --> 0:55:21
but okay, they have a constitution.

1115
0:55:21 --> 0:55:25
They are now changing the 1946 signed constitution,

1116
0:55:25 --> 0:55:27
articles 19 to 22.

1117
0:55:27 --> 0:55:30
In other words, they're adopting a language

1118
0:55:30 --> 0:55:35
as a backup of this plan to vote three quarters

1119
0:55:35 --> 0:55:37
and the whole world has to then execute.

1120
0:55:38 --> 0:55:40
This is the plan they have in mind.

1121
0:55:40 --> 0:55:42
And this is what they want to rush through

1122
0:55:42 --> 0:55:45
as fast as possible if needed

1123
0:55:45 --> 0:55:50
with a crazy shock therapy that could come anytime

1124
0:55:50 --> 0:55:55
on some crazy fake virus, 5G induced Marburg

1125
0:55:55 --> 0:55:58
or a virus that is supposedly killing children

1126
0:55:58 --> 0:56:00
where people will panic.

1127
0:56:00 --> 0:56:04
And then the parliamentarians will say,

1128
0:56:04 --> 0:56:05
oh, please rush this through.

1129
0:56:05 --> 0:56:07
We need WHO to take control.

1130
0:56:07 --> 0:56:12
Now, this is going to be realized if we don't act now

1131
0:56:12 --> 0:56:17
in about two months from now.

1132
0:56:17 --> 0:56:20
They are saying that they will give us

1133
0:56:20 --> 0:56:25
a so-called ratification period to the governments

1134
0:56:25 --> 0:56:28
until 2024, June.

1135
0:56:28 --> 0:56:31
I don't trust the WHO.

1136
0:56:31 --> 0:56:33
I am with Astrid Stuckelberger.

1137
0:56:33 --> 0:56:34
You met Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger.

1138
0:56:34 --> 0:56:35
She's my friend.

1139
0:56:35 --> 0:56:36
We are very close.

1140
0:56:36 --> 0:56:38
We talk daily.

1141
0:56:38 --> 0:56:39
She's in Geneva.

1142
0:56:39 --> 0:56:40
I'm in Lucerne.

1143
0:56:40 --> 0:56:42
We are 300 kilometers apart.

1144
0:56:42 --> 0:56:46
And we meet often and we do meetings in Switzerland

1145
0:56:46 --> 0:56:49
with the military as well at the moment.

1146
0:56:49 --> 0:56:52
We are in a constitutional crisis.

1147
0:56:52 --> 0:56:55
The USA is in a constitutional crisis.

1148
0:56:55 --> 0:56:58
Australia is in a constitutional crisis.

1149
0:56:58 --> 0:57:01
Switzerland is now in a constitutional crisis.

1150
0:57:03 --> 0:57:08
Biden has sold the constitution 10 days ago to Tedros,

1151
0:57:09 --> 0:57:12
this fake doctor who is from Ethiopia

1152
0:57:12 --> 0:57:14
who is sought for war crimes.

1153
0:57:14 --> 0:57:16
This is reality.

1154
0:57:16 --> 0:57:21
Now, what this means is under the pandemic law

1155
0:57:21 --> 0:57:25
which they can claim at will at any minute, at any time,

1156
0:57:25 --> 0:57:27
as often as they want,

1157
0:57:27 --> 0:57:32
they declare a virus without clinical tests, okay?

1158
0:57:32 --> 0:57:34
They then come and say, this is the vaccine,

1159
0:57:34 --> 0:57:39
the bio weapon to be injected, force vaccinated 70.

1160
0:57:40 --> 0:57:44
They can strip me naked in my 600 year old house here

1161
0:57:44 --> 0:57:47
in front of my wife and they can force it in my body.

1162
0:57:48 --> 0:57:53
If this is signed or the children or the family,

1163
0:57:53 --> 0:57:58
then this agreement will have power over legislative offices

1164
0:58:02 --> 0:58:04
of your nation.

1165
0:58:04 --> 0:58:08
And it gets worse, the executive branch,

1166
0:58:08 --> 0:58:12
that means intelligence, police, security forces

1167
0:58:12 --> 0:58:14
and military.

1168
0:58:15 --> 0:58:18
And then you will say, okay, we don't comply.

1169
0:58:18 --> 0:58:19
I'm of the same nature.

1170
0:58:19 --> 0:58:20
I will say, you know what?

1171
0:58:20 --> 0:58:21
I don't comply.

1172
0:58:21 --> 0:58:22
I know it's fake virus.

1173
0:58:22 --> 0:58:23
They wanna scare us.

1174
0:58:23 --> 0:58:25
And I go out to the streets, I go to the restaurant

1175
0:58:25 --> 0:58:28
and then come the police with some machine guns

1176
0:58:28 --> 0:58:30
and say, look, this is loaded.

1177
0:58:30 --> 0:58:31
You better go home.

1178
0:58:33 --> 0:58:35
They shoot a few, maybe five or 10 or 20.

1179
0:58:36 --> 0:58:38
Everybody will go back to the apartments.

1180
0:58:38 --> 0:58:39
That's it, it's the end.

1181
0:58:39 --> 0:58:40
It's over.

1182
0:58:40 --> 0:58:41
They want to kill us.

1183
0:58:41 --> 0:58:42
You smelled it right.

1184
0:58:42 --> 0:58:44
I was listening for one hour now.

1185
0:58:44 --> 0:58:46
There is no ambiguity.

1186
0:58:46 --> 0:58:51
They want to depopulate the planet and I call it it

1187
0:58:51 --> 0:58:53
because the gentleman was talking,

1188
0:58:53 --> 0:58:56
speaking before me about the poor women

1189
0:58:56 --> 0:58:58
who got infertile and stuff.

1190
0:59:01 --> 0:59:02
It exists.

1191
0:59:02 --> 0:59:04
You got to realize that.

1192
0:59:04 --> 0:59:05
And this is a spiritual battle

1193
0:59:05 --> 0:59:10
and a constitutional legal slash court battle.

1194
0:59:12 --> 0:59:13
On all levels.

1195
0:59:13 --> 0:59:15
They have also a manual in place.

1196
0:59:15 --> 0:59:16
I have seen it.

1197
0:59:16 --> 0:59:17
I have it here.

1198
0:59:17 --> 0:59:18
I can send it later.

1199
0:59:18 --> 0:59:22
Where they already talk how to cut communications

1200
0:59:22 --> 0:59:25
of the population, how to disconnect us,

1201
0:59:25 --> 0:59:27
not only physically through lockdowns,

1202
0:59:27 --> 0:59:31
but to kill our WhatsApp, to kill our telegram.

1203
0:59:31 --> 0:59:36
They killed 10 days ago, my Yahoo account in Switzerland,

1204
0:59:36 --> 0:59:39
WHO, can you imagine, did this to me.

1205
0:59:39 --> 0:59:42
In my country, Switzerland.

1206
0:59:42 --> 0:59:43
All right.

1207
0:59:43 --> 0:59:44
So why did they do this?

1208
0:59:44 --> 0:59:46
Because with Anne Van der Steele

1209
0:59:46 --> 0:59:48
and I think she's here with us,

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0:59:48 --> 0:59:50
we made the news report 12 days ago

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0:59:50 --> 0:59:53
that the Americans, Dr. Martin and folks

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0:59:53 --> 0:59:58
are going after Dr. Fauci through doing Canada Barrage

1213
0:59:58 --> 1:00:02
and all those people who have funded

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1:00:02 --> 1:00:04
bio weapon development, gain of function,

1215
1:00:04 --> 1:00:06
spike protein proteins at the Wuhan laboratory

1216
1:00:06 --> 1:00:09
during a bio weapon moratorium,

1217
1:00:09 --> 1:00:10
get a function moratorium,

1218
1:00:11 --> 1:00:13
which was on the US and Canada.

1219
1:00:13 --> 1:00:14
We have all the evidence.

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1:00:16 --> 1:00:20
So now what do I do?

1221
1:00:20 --> 1:00:22
I go one step further.

1222
1:00:22 --> 1:00:24
I am also a British citizen

1223
1:00:24 --> 1:00:26
and that gives me special power, why?

1224
1:00:27 --> 1:00:30
I have filed with a Supreme Court

1225
1:00:30 --> 1:00:33
in the United States of America on Friday afternoon,

1226
1:00:34 --> 1:00:36
a temporary restraining order.

1227
1:00:37 --> 1:00:38
The judge has accepted it

1228
1:00:38 --> 1:00:41
and we're filing the papers, not electronically,

1229
1:00:41 --> 1:00:44
the papers, my legal advisor is going to court

1230
1:00:44 --> 1:00:47
on Monday morning at nine o'clock to meet the judge.

1231
1:00:47 --> 1:00:50
It will be stamped, rubber stamped.

1232
1:00:50 --> 1:00:51
The fee will be paid.

1233
1:00:52 --> 1:00:55
The lawyers, the law firm of Pfizer

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1:00:55 --> 1:00:58
has been notified duly on Friday.

1235
1:00:58 --> 1:01:03
I'm taking the devil front head on

1236
1:01:03 --> 1:01:06
and this machine will be stopped.

1237
1:01:06 --> 1:01:07
And not only the...

1238
1:01:07 --> 1:01:10
Okay, Pascal, Pascal, stop.

1239
1:01:10 --> 1:01:11
Thank you.

1240
1:01:11 --> 1:01:13
This is Q&A.

1241
1:01:14 --> 1:01:16
People want to see that chart,

1242
1:01:16 --> 1:01:18
if you can put that into the chat.

1243
1:01:18 --> 1:01:20
We have to go on with the other questions.

1244
1:01:20 --> 1:01:23
We understand, everyone here understands the threat of who

1245
1:01:23 --> 1:01:24
and you are doing great work.

1246
1:01:24 --> 1:01:26
We have to get to the other questions.

1247
1:01:26 --> 1:01:27
We have to...

1248
1:01:27 --> 1:01:28
Okay.

1249
1:01:28 --> 1:01:29
I gave you a bit more latitude

1250
1:01:29 --> 1:01:31
because of the importance of what you're doing,

1251
1:01:31 --> 1:01:33
but we have to move on.

1252
1:01:35 --> 1:01:35
So can you put...

1253
1:01:36 --> 1:01:40
If you want to come on to speak to us as a guest,

1254
1:01:41 --> 1:01:43
we can talk, okay?

1255
1:01:44 --> 1:01:45
Now Pascal's quite...

1256
1:01:45 --> 1:01:49
Pascal spoke, the recording, excellent recording of Pascal,

1257
1:01:49 --> 1:01:54
but in terms of further strategies, absolutely important.

1258
1:01:56 --> 1:01:58
Okay, thank you.

1259
1:01:58 --> 1:02:01
Gary Fink, Gary the Fink.

1260
1:02:01 --> 1:02:03
The Fink, he's the Fink.

1261
1:02:03 --> 1:02:05
Hi there.

1262
1:02:05 --> 1:02:06
Yes, Gary Fink, I'm from London.

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1:02:06 --> 1:02:09
I'm an actory and statistician.

1264
1:02:09 --> 1:02:12
I just wanted to ask Dr. Thorpe, I was good,

1265
1:02:12 --> 1:02:16
the question was aimed at Dr. Thorpe and Michelle,

1266
1:02:16 --> 1:02:17
but unfortunately Michelle's there,

1267
1:02:17 --> 1:02:21
but maybe Dr. Thorpe will be able to answer.

1268
1:02:21 --> 1:02:23
When she mentioned the 20 something,

1269
1:02:25 --> 1:02:28
it sounds like stillbirths, I think it was that she said,

1270
1:02:28 --> 1:02:32
in a period of time, I think it was one month, I'm not sure.

1271
1:02:32 --> 1:02:34
24.

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1:02:34 --> 1:02:35
Sorry?

1273
1:02:35 --> 1:02:36
24, Gary.

1274
1:02:36 --> 1:02:39
Okay, my question is,

1275
1:02:41 --> 1:02:44
did you, Dr. Thorpe or Michelle,

1276
1:02:44 --> 1:02:49
were actually looking to the proportions of the mothers

1277
1:02:50 --> 1:02:52
that had been vaccinated?

1278
1:02:52 --> 1:02:56
I mean, what is the statistic there on...

1279
1:02:58 --> 1:03:01
I can provide that for you, can you hear me?

1280
1:03:01 --> 1:03:02
Yeah, thank you.

1281
1:03:02 --> 1:03:07
Let me, can I, is it okay, Charles, if I could show us?

1282
1:03:07 --> 1:03:09
Yeah, share your screen.

1283
1:03:09 --> 1:03:10
Okay.

1284
1:03:10 --> 1:03:13
James, your microphone's a little bit low.

1285
1:03:13 --> 1:03:16
I don't know whether it's, but you may have

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1:03:16 --> 1:03:18
a very soft voice.

1287
1:03:18 --> 1:03:21
All right, I'll try to speak up, is that any better?

1288
1:03:22 --> 1:03:24
I think it might be the microphone.

1289
1:03:24 --> 1:03:26
No, that would be no better.

1290
1:03:26 --> 1:03:27
Yeah, I have the same problem with mine.

1291
1:03:27 --> 1:03:29
Let's see, any better?

1292
1:03:30 --> 1:03:31
Yes.

1293
1:03:32 --> 1:03:35
It's a little bit, but it's okay, we can hear quite clearly.

1294
1:03:36 --> 1:03:38
Let's see what I can do here.

1295
1:03:42 --> 1:03:46
Okay, so, I'm gonna share my screen here.

1296
1:03:46 --> 1:03:48
That was a great question. Thank you.

1297
1:03:51 --> 1:03:52
Let's see here.

1298
1:04:02 --> 1:04:04
There's no sharing yet, James.

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1:04:05 --> 1:04:06
Oh, now, yeah.

1300
1:04:08 --> 1:04:09
Not sure if that's...

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1:04:12 --> 1:04:13
Let me try to redo this.

1302
1:04:22 --> 1:04:25
All right, bear with me, bear with me.

1303
1:04:25 --> 1:04:26
Let's see here.

1304
1:04:26 --> 1:04:31
I'm gonna show you a picture that's worth a thousand words.

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1:04:32 --> 1:04:33
And I wanna show you this,

1306
1:04:33 --> 1:04:37
because I plotted all of Nerschel's data out.

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1:04:37 --> 1:04:39
You are correct in that,

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1:04:44 --> 1:04:47
this was data directly from the administration

1309
1:04:47 --> 1:04:49
in the hospital, so it's irrefutable.

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1:04:49 --> 1:04:53
And to answer your question, we're not allowed to go in

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1:04:53 --> 1:04:56
and look at that other data,

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1:04:56 --> 1:04:58
because we don't have privilege to it.

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1:04:58 --> 1:05:03
We were censored for, she was censored and reprimanded,

1314
1:05:04 --> 1:05:08
nearly fired for just elucidating the email.

1315
1:05:08 --> 1:05:11
I'm having troubles getting that slide

1316
1:05:11 --> 1:05:14
that I wanted to show you, but let me go with the data.

1317
1:05:14 --> 1:05:17
So, Jim, if you go to your screen

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1:05:17 --> 1:05:21
and you click on your own screen and then share

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1:05:21 --> 1:05:24
after you've got it up on your screen first.

1320
1:05:24 --> 1:05:26
Yeah, I'll give that a try.

1321
1:05:26 --> 1:05:30
Yeah, I think, yeah, here we go.

1322
1:05:32 --> 1:05:33
I'm in a mobile unit.

1323
1:05:33 --> 1:05:35
I have a mobile workstation,

1324
1:05:35 --> 1:05:37
because I'm over here in,

1325
1:05:37 --> 1:05:39
I'm actually over here in Fort Worth,

1326
1:05:40 --> 1:05:42
away from my mobile.

1327
1:05:42 --> 1:05:45
And let's see here if I can, there we go, yeah.

1328
1:05:46 --> 1:05:47
Okay.

1329
1:05:50 --> 1:05:54
So the data that we have that Michelle was sharing with you,

1330
1:05:54 --> 1:05:57
we can't go in and look at all the baseline rates,

1331
1:05:57 --> 1:05:59
but I've calculated all those numbers.

1332
1:06:01 --> 1:06:04
And here we are, this will do it.

1333
1:06:04 --> 1:06:04
This is great.

1334
1:06:05 --> 1:06:10
And I'll turn that into a, there we go.

1335
1:06:10 --> 1:06:11
All right.

1336
1:06:11 --> 1:06:16
And off screen share.

1337
1:06:20 --> 1:06:23
Yeah, you should be able to see that, right?

1338
1:06:23 --> 1:06:26
COVID-19 vaccines, it's your background again,

1339
1:06:26 --> 1:06:28
the blue, the yellow and blue.

1340
1:06:32 --> 1:06:34
Can you see that slide?

1341
1:06:34 --> 1:06:35
Yes.

1342
1:06:35 --> 1:06:36
Okay, great.

1343
1:06:36 --> 1:06:38
So yeah, I'll go down.

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1:06:39 --> 1:06:41
Yeah, we can, quite clearly.

1345
1:06:41 --> 1:06:46
Okay, so this is Michelle Gershman's whistleblower data.

1346
1:06:47 --> 1:06:51
And what you'll see here is,

1347
1:06:51 --> 1:06:53
first of all, a couple of things

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1:06:53 --> 1:06:56
that this came from an email.

1349
1:06:57 --> 1:07:00
This is directly from the head administrator

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1:07:00 --> 1:07:01
of women's services.

1351
1:07:01 --> 1:07:04
There's no disputing email.

1352
1:07:04 --> 1:07:06
And in the email, it was a page and a half,

1353
1:07:06 --> 1:07:09
and it was a very, very horrible email.

1354
1:07:09 --> 1:07:13
It was horrible detail, horrible insensitivity,

1355
1:07:13 --> 1:07:15
but the numbers are accurate.

1356
1:07:15 --> 1:07:17
There were 22 stillbirths,

1357
1:07:17 --> 1:07:22
which occurred in July of 2021.

1358
1:07:22 --> 1:07:27
And there was another record set in August of 2022.

1359
1:07:27 --> 1:07:29
Those are the only months

1360
1:07:29 --> 1:07:32
that we have absolutely irrefutable data for,

1361
1:07:32 --> 1:07:35
and we can't go in and get the rest of the data.

1362
1:07:35 --> 1:07:38
But by Michelle Gershman's testimony,

1363
1:07:39 --> 1:07:44
there was massive increase that began not in 2020,

1364
1:07:44 --> 1:07:48
but after the vaccine rollout in 2021.

1365
1:07:48 --> 1:07:51
And what I wanna show in this slide here,

1366
1:07:51 --> 1:07:56
and on the X-axis, you see the US stillbirth rate, okay?

1367
1:07:56 --> 1:07:58
And you'll see that blue line,

1368
1:07:58 --> 1:08:01
5.89, 5.89, 5.70.

1369
1:08:01 --> 1:08:05
Those are fetal deaths defined

1370
1:08:06 --> 1:08:10
as a fetal death after or after 20 weeks,

1371
1:08:10 --> 1:08:13
but before birth, whenever that birth took place.

1372
1:08:13 --> 1:08:14
In other words, birth of a dead baby.

1373
1:08:14 --> 1:08:19
So 5.89 per thousand births

1374
1:08:19 --> 1:08:20
in the United States of America.

1375
1:08:20 --> 1:08:22
That number is very tight.

1376
1:08:22 --> 1:08:23
It's very solid.

1377
1:08:23 --> 1:08:28
You can see that 2017, 5.89, 2018, 5.89, 2019.

1378
1:08:30 --> 1:08:34
Now, when you aggregate those three years

1379
1:08:34 --> 1:08:39
and you compare the birth rate to 2020, what do you see?

1380
1:08:39 --> 1:08:41
The horrible pandemic of COVID-19

1381
1:08:41 --> 1:08:46
did not increase stillbirths, actually decreased stillbirths.

1382
1:08:46 --> 1:08:48
The increase in stillbirths didn't occur

1383
1:08:48 --> 1:08:51
until after rollout of the vaccine.

1384
1:08:51 --> 1:08:53
And you'll see that if you take up here

1385
1:08:53 --> 1:08:55
at the first red triangle,

1386
1:08:55 --> 1:08:59
if you see my little arrow pointing that out,

1387
1:08:59 --> 1:09:02
that death rate went from 5.8,

1388
1:09:02 --> 1:09:07
whatever you wanna choose as a baseline up to 29.3.

1389
1:09:09 --> 1:09:13
That is a massive unprecedented one in a million year event.

1390
1:09:13 --> 1:09:17
Okay, that doesn't occur without a cause.

1391
1:09:17 --> 1:09:20
And as the administrator said in the email,

1392
1:09:20 --> 1:09:22
22 was definitely an underestimate.

1393
1:09:22 --> 1:09:24
That only captured the stillbirths

1394
1:09:24 --> 1:09:26
that came straight to labor and delivery.

1395
1:09:26 --> 1:09:30
The stillbirths that went to the operating room,

1396
1:09:30 --> 1:09:32
the emergency room, delivered at home,

1397
1:09:32 --> 1:09:35
the emergency room delivered at another facility.

1398
1:09:35 --> 1:09:37
They didn't even count.

1399
1:09:37 --> 1:09:39
So she said there were more than this.

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1:09:39 --> 1:09:43
But this is the data, it speaks for itself.

1401
1:09:43 --> 1:09:48
The enormity of that rise cannot be overestimated.

1402
1:09:49 --> 1:09:52
You're looking at one standard deviation

1403
1:09:52 --> 1:09:57
is about 0.5 fetal depth per 1,000 births, 0.5.

1404
1:09:57 --> 1:10:02
Do the math, that's 40 standard deviation surge.

1405
1:10:02 --> 1:10:04
And if that weren't bad enough,

1406
1:10:04 --> 1:10:09
look at this data from Lionsgate Hospital

1407
1:10:09 --> 1:10:14
in Vancouver, British Columbia.

1408
1:10:14 --> 1:10:15
This occurred last year.

1409
1:10:15 --> 1:10:20
There were 13 dead babies in one 24 hour period.

1410
1:10:20 --> 1:10:24
So this is a catastrophic rise.

1411
1:10:24 --> 1:10:28
I'll unshare my screen,

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1:10:28 --> 1:10:31
but those are the main points I wanted to emphasize.

1413
1:10:31 --> 1:10:33
And I hope I answered your question.

1414
1:10:34 --> 1:10:37
So, I mean, I think that's clear

1415
1:10:37 --> 1:10:41
that there's an increase in stillbirths

1416
1:10:41 --> 1:10:46
and it's way beyond statistical randomness that is caused.

1417
1:10:46 --> 1:10:51
Obviously, if the increase is manifesting times

1418
1:10:52 --> 1:10:54
with the vaccine rollout,

1419
1:10:54 --> 1:10:59
then that is gotta be a suspect cause.

1420
1:10:59 --> 1:11:02
But I mean, the question really boils down to

1421
1:11:02 --> 1:11:06
if the data on the excess stillbirths

1422
1:11:06 --> 1:11:07
in that particular center,

1423
1:11:09 --> 1:11:10
if it's known whether those mothers

1424
1:11:10 --> 1:11:14
were vaccinated or not, or what proportion.

1425
1:11:14 --> 1:11:15
I'm sorry to interrupt.

1426
1:11:15 --> 1:11:16
My name is Gail McCrae.

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1:11:16 --> 1:11:19
I'm a fellow nurse whistleblower.

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1:11:19 --> 1:11:19
And I'm-

1429
1:11:20 --> 1:11:21
Hang on.

1430
1:11:21 --> 1:11:23
Gail, send me a message,

1431
1:11:23 --> 1:11:24
part of the message in chat

1432
1:11:24 --> 1:11:27
and we'll let's decide whether you interrupt, please.

1433
1:11:27 --> 1:11:28
Put your hand up.

1434
1:11:28 --> 1:11:30
Love to hear from you.

1435
1:11:31 --> 1:11:32
Just send me a note.

1436
1:11:32 --> 1:11:34
Maybe you know how to do it, Charles.

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1:11:34 --> 1:11:35
She does.

1438
1:11:35 --> 1:11:37
Just send me a message.

1439
1:11:37 --> 1:11:38
Keep going, Gary.

1440
1:11:39 --> 1:11:40
So that's it.

1441
1:11:42 --> 1:11:45
I guess I wanna just finish off my question.

1442
1:11:45 --> 1:11:47
I'm not sure if what you said,

1443
1:11:47 --> 1:11:50
because you didn't have full access to the data,

1444
1:11:50 --> 1:11:53
whether it's known what proportion of the excess stillbirths

1445
1:11:53 --> 1:11:57
in that center were from vaccinated mothers or not.

1446
1:11:59 --> 1:12:01
Because that could help roll out

1447
1:12:01 --> 1:12:03
some other confounding cause.

1448
1:12:04 --> 1:12:07
I can respond to that if I may.

1449
1:12:07 --> 1:12:08
Can you hear me?

1450
1:12:08 --> 1:12:08
Yeah, sure, please.

1451
1:12:08 --> 1:12:10
Yeah, yes.

1452
1:12:10 --> 1:12:14
These are very, very highly vaccinated areas.

1453
1:12:14 --> 1:12:17
So the vast majority of these,

1454
1:12:17 --> 1:12:19
if not all of them were vaccinated.

1455
1:12:19 --> 1:12:22
Again, I can't prove that,

1456
1:12:22 --> 1:12:25
but you're looking at Michelle Gershman's testimony

1457
1:12:25 --> 1:12:28
that basically almost all of the pregnant women

1458
1:12:28 --> 1:12:31
were not only pushed the vaccine,

1459
1:12:31 --> 1:12:33
but almost literally forced.

1460
1:12:33 --> 1:12:35
She talked about several obstetricians

1461
1:12:35 --> 1:12:37
that would browbeat the patients

1462
1:12:37 --> 1:12:39
personally into getting the vaccine.

1463
1:12:39 --> 1:12:43
So listen, I practice out of,

1464
1:12:43 --> 1:12:45
of course the whole world I take calls from,

1465
1:12:45 --> 1:12:49
but my private practice, or if you will,

1466
1:12:49 --> 1:12:53
my employed practice is in Missouri and Illinois.

1467
1:12:53 --> 1:12:56
And I've definitely seen an increase in stillbirth

1468
1:12:56 --> 1:12:59
in my practice, but it's nowhere near the increase.

1469
1:13:00 --> 1:13:01
I'm sorry.

1470
1:13:02 --> 1:13:06
Let me, let me move that.

1471
1:13:13 --> 1:13:16
Okay, James had to go off to answer a call.

1472
1:13:16 --> 1:13:21
Now, Gail McCrae for 30 seconds,

1473
1:13:21 --> 1:13:24
your friend of Michelle, please unmute

1474
1:13:24 --> 1:13:25
and answer Gary's question.

1475
1:13:28 --> 1:13:31
Yeah, so I know Michelle very well,

1476
1:13:31 --> 1:13:35
and I also am a nurse from California

1477
1:13:35 --> 1:13:40
where we had extraordinary high rates of COVID-19.

1478
1:13:40 --> 1:13:44
California where we had extraordinary high rates

1479
1:13:44 --> 1:13:48
of injections in our hospitals and communities.

1480
1:13:48 --> 1:13:52
Michelle informed me that there are two OBGYNs

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1:13:52 --> 1:13:53
working in her community.

1482
1:13:53 --> 1:13:56
Both of them made it mandatory for their pregnant women

1483
1:13:56 --> 1:14:00
to all receive the jobs during that time period.

1484
1:14:00 --> 1:14:03
So if they refused, if those pay,

1485
1:14:03 --> 1:14:06
if the pregnant women refused the injections,

1486
1:14:06 --> 1:14:10
they were dropped from those OBGYN care.

1487
1:14:10 --> 1:14:14
And there were no other OBGYNs in that community

1488
1:14:14 --> 1:14:16
to overtake their care.

1489
1:14:16 --> 1:14:18
So if they chose not to get the injections,

1490
1:14:18 --> 1:14:21
they were led into either another community

1491
1:14:21 --> 1:14:23
or into the care of midwives.

1492
1:14:24 --> 1:14:25
Gail, Millie, thanks.

1493
1:14:25 --> 1:14:28
Gary is- And I can confirm in my community,

1494
1:14:29 --> 1:14:31
my community as well,

1495
1:14:32 --> 1:14:35
we saw a threefold increase in hospitalizations

1496
1:14:35 --> 1:14:37
directly related to the onset of the injections.

1497
1:14:37 --> 1:14:42
In my community, we had about a 90% injection rate

1498
1:14:42 --> 1:14:47
and there was in the exact same scenarios,

1499
1:14:47 --> 1:14:50
a direct correlation with the onset of injection

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1:14:50 --> 1:14:52
after hospitals being empty for the-

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1:14:56 --> 1:14:57
You're at mute, Gail.

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1:14:59 --> 1:15:01
Can I make a comment on this question?

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1:15:01 --> 1:15:02
Yes, please, Curtis.

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1:15:02 --> 1:15:04
I think was also really critical.

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1:15:05 --> 1:15:08
I think it was just looking at the timeframes.

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1:15:08 --> 1:15:13
All-cause mortality, we looked at statistics for 2019,

1507
1:15:14 --> 1:15:17
2020 was lower.

1508
1:15:17 --> 1:15:21
2020, that's where the virus supposedly escaped

1509
1:15:21 --> 1:15:23
from some laboratory, if you believe that,

1510
1:15:23 --> 1:15:25
and did all this hard.

1511
1:15:25 --> 1:15:28
But the overall death count went down.

1512
1:15:28 --> 1:15:31
And Albert, his thing, Albert is on the call, I believe,

1513
1:15:31 --> 1:15:34
his thing is analyzing various data.

1514
1:15:34 --> 1:15:36
A lot of his reports that there was definitely

1515
1:15:36 --> 1:15:40
a dramatic increase in reports to VAERS

1516
1:15:40 --> 1:15:41
of vaccine injuries and deaths

1517
1:15:41 --> 1:15:43
after the vaccine came on the market.

1518
1:15:43 --> 1:15:46
So I believe all four of the insurance companies

1519
1:15:46 --> 1:15:49
are talking about all-cause mortality deaths

1520
1:15:49 --> 1:15:53
actually increased like 40% in 2021

1521
1:15:53 --> 1:15:54
once the vaccine came on the market.

1522
1:15:54 --> 1:15:57
So we're not looking at an isolated situation

1523
1:15:57 --> 1:16:01
when we're talking about increases in infant mortality.

1524
1:16:01 --> 1:16:02
It's across the board.

1525
1:16:02 --> 1:16:07
And so we got to ask what happened between 2020 and 2021

1526
1:16:07 --> 1:16:10
that all these deaths from a lot of different levels

1527
1:16:10 --> 1:16:13
and all these injuries, that's the thing was critical.

1528
1:16:13 --> 1:16:16
See nothing of all these sudden deaths,

1529
1:16:16 --> 1:16:19
all these athletes suddenly dying.

1530
1:16:19 --> 1:16:22
When in our history have we seen all these athletes

1531
1:16:22 --> 1:16:25
around the world just dropping dead on the football field,

1532
1:16:25 --> 1:16:26
the basketball field?

1533
1:16:26 --> 1:16:30
It didn't happen until 2021 when the COVID shot came out.

1534
1:16:30 --> 1:16:34
So I think it's good to have a broad view

1535
1:16:34 --> 1:16:35
of what's going on.

1536
1:16:36 --> 1:16:37
Thank you.

1537
1:16:37 --> 1:16:38
Excellent point, Curtis.

1538
1:16:38 --> 1:16:43
And that's the strategy that it to quote Pascal is using

1539
1:16:43 --> 1:16:46
to say there's no causation link.

1540
1:16:46 --> 1:16:48
We know that's bullshit.

1541
1:16:48 --> 1:16:49
Thank you, Gary.

1542
1:16:49 --> 1:16:51
We got to keep going with questions.

1543
1:16:52 --> 1:16:53
Shasta.

1544
1:16:55 --> 1:16:56
All right.

1545
1:16:56 --> 1:17:01
Well, I guess for me, I'm here to speak for my moms

1546
1:17:01 --> 1:17:02
and their babies that they lost

1547
1:17:02 --> 1:17:05
and that I witnessed over the last two years

1548
1:17:05 --> 1:17:08
and the trauma that they've experienced

1549
1:17:08 --> 1:17:11
where at three months the baby just dissolved

1550
1:17:11 --> 1:17:14
because it lost blood flow.

1551
1:17:14 --> 1:17:18
At five months cervical incompetence.

1552
1:17:18 --> 1:17:22
So it just the cervix fell apart and the baby died

1553
1:17:22 --> 1:17:25
and 30 year olds with no follicles.

1554
1:17:25 --> 1:17:28
And completely barren.

1555
1:17:28 --> 1:17:33
Young men having erectile dysfunction and no good sperm.

1556
1:17:33 --> 1:17:37
And seeing the look on these moms' faces

1557
1:17:37 --> 1:17:40
and holding their hands through their miscarriages,

1558
1:17:40 --> 1:17:43
it's insane.

1559
1:17:43 --> 1:17:47
And all of the doctors told me this was safe and effective

1560
1:17:47 --> 1:17:50
and better than if they got COVID.

1561
1:17:50 --> 1:17:52
And I'm thinking based on what?

1562
1:17:52 --> 1:17:55
There is no long-term safety data.

1563
1:17:56 --> 1:17:59
And that is a sales pitch for Big Pharma Harma.

1564
1:17:59 --> 1:18:03
So my question is this because I'm very grateful

1565
1:18:03 --> 1:18:07
to be a part of the solution is how do we have

1566
1:18:07 --> 1:18:12
allopathic medicine be re-inspected

1567
1:18:12 --> 1:18:16
starting with this COVID with the tests,

1568
1:18:16 --> 1:18:20
the diagnosis and the treatments such that it's logical,

1569
1:18:20 --> 1:18:24
that it's not harmful, that it's first do no harm.

1570
1:18:24 --> 1:18:27
How do we get ourselves back to a safe medicine?

1571
1:18:27 --> 1:18:31
Number two, how do we do it for all of the vaccines?

1572
1:18:31 --> 1:18:34
Because this is what these little kids all over the world

1573
1:18:34 --> 1:18:37
are dealing with this and this.

1574
1:18:37 --> 1:18:40
This is madness and insanity.

1575
1:18:40 --> 1:18:42
And I'm standing for these children.

1576
1:18:42 --> 1:18:44
I love them, they're angels.

1577
1:18:44 --> 1:18:48
So my prayer is that we can find a way forward

1578
1:18:48 --> 1:18:53
to re-inspect our medicine and have healthy medicine

1579
1:18:53 --> 1:18:54
that isn't poisonous.

1580
1:18:54 --> 1:18:57
And I would love to know what the panel thinks,

1581
1:18:57 --> 1:18:58
how we can go about doing that.

1582
1:19:00 --> 1:19:02
I mean, I'll take a stab at that.

1583
1:19:02 --> 1:19:04
Thank you very much for your really brilliant

1584
1:19:04 --> 1:19:05
and eloquent comments.

1585
1:19:09 --> 1:19:13
In my opinion, this cannot be fixed.

1586
1:19:13 --> 1:19:17
It cannot be fixed without completely taking down

1587
1:19:17 --> 1:19:22
the entire medical and military industrial complex

1588
1:19:23 --> 1:19:24
we need to finish.

1589
1:19:24 --> 1:19:27
My president's job, John Fitzgerald Kennedy

1590
1:19:27 --> 1:19:30
and Eisenhower that stated that this complex

1591
1:19:30 --> 1:19:33
was the greatest threat to the United States of America.

1592
1:19:33 --> 1:19:35
Kennedy said he was gonna disassemble it.

1593
1:19:35 --> 1:19:38
He was murdered in a coup d'etat from my government.

1594
1:19:38 --> 1:19:42
It's only gotten stronger unless we finish JFK's job

1595
1:19:42 --> 1:19:46
and utterly destroy the medical industrial complex,

1596
1:19:46 --> 1:19:49
which is now the military medical industrial complex,

1597
1:19:49 --> 1:19:52
will not win because they've grown powerful

1598
1:19:53 --> 1:19:56
and wealthy and it needs to be taken down.

1599
1:19:56 --> 1:20:00
And it needs to be replaced with ethical people

1600
1:20:00 --> 1:20:02
that have ethics.

1601
1:20:02 --> 1:20:04
I jokingly, it's not a joke,

1602
1:20:04 --> 1:20:07
but you take somebody like Peter McCullough,

1603
1:20:07 --> 1:20:11
who I say is the five-star general,

1604
1:20:11 --> 1:20:14
Peter Patton McCullough, MD, MPH,

1605
1:20:14 --> 1:20:19
I think the world, the global medical freedom force,

1606
1:20:20 --> 1:20:24
that's what he is, people like him.

1607
1:20:24 --> 1:20:27
I don't know of anybody more credentialed in the world

1608
1:20:27 --> 1:20:28
to lead that.

1609
1:20:28 --> 1:20:30
He's all over the world speaking truth.

1610
1:20:30 --> 1:20:32
We need to line up behind,

1611
1:20:32 --> 1:20:35
I will line up behind somebody like him

1612
1:20:35 --> 1:20:39
and completely destroy the CDC, the FDA, the HHS,

1613
1:20:39 --> 1:20:41
all of the boards because they failed

1614
1:20:41 --> 1:20:45
and they're killing my patients and they know it.

1615
1:20:45 --> 1:20:46
They refuse to look at the data.

1616
1:20:46 --> 1:20:50
And that's exactly what Dr. McCullough on Friday

1617
1:20:50 --> 1:20:55
and at Substack called out a pregnancy category X

1618
1:20:55 --> 1:20:56
for the vaccine.

1619
1:20:56 --> 1:20:58
It should be pregnancy category X.

1620
1:20:58 --> 1:21:00
It should be removed from the market.

1621
1:21:00 --> 1:21:02
So there's a black box warning on it now

1622
1:21:02 --> 1:21:04
by Peter McCullough and by myself,

1623
1:21:04 --> 1:21:07
and it needs to be banned throughout the world.

1624
1:21:07 --> 1:21:11
And we need to disassemble the CDC and the FDA.

1625
1:21:11 --> 1:21:12
They're corrupt to the core.

1626
1:21:12 --> 1:21:14
They cannot be fixed.

1627
1:21:14 --> 1:21:16
They're offended by vaccine profits.

1628
1:21:16 --> 1:21:17
Over.

1629
1:21:17 --> 1:21:19
If I could add to that, I think another element,

1630
1:21:19 --> 1:21:24
I completely agree with Dr. Thorpe is public awareness.

1631
1:21:24 --> 1:21:27
I mean, one of the greatest challenges I've had

1632
1:21:27 --> 1:21:31
over 30 years, it's just trying to wake up people

1633
1:21:31 --> 1:21:33
who are just mesmerized.

1634
1:21:33 --> 1:21:38
I mean, literally people view doctors as ministers

1635
1:21:38 --> 1:21:41
and priests and rabbis, and they view hospitals

1636
1:21:41 --> 1:21:44
as temples and churches and synagogues.

1637
1:21:44 --> 1:21:48
Nobody wants to question their rabbi or their minister

1638
1:21:48 --> 1:21:49
or their church.

1639
1:21:49 --> 1:21:53
And by the same token, nobody really wants to question

1640
1:21:53 --> 1:21:55
their hospitals or their doctors.

1641
1:21:55 --> 1:21:57
Those are sacred in the minds of many people.

1642
1:21:57 --> 1:21:59
We've been programmed from childhood

1643
1:21:59 --> 1:22:02
to have absolute faith in what they say.

1644
1:22:02 --> 1:22:06
Plus the fact medical, I mean, the school system and things,

1645
1:22:06 --> 1:22:09
they train us in such a way that most of the people

1646
1:22:09 --> 1:22:11
are afraid of anything scientific, anything medical,

1647
1:22:11 --> 1:22:12
anything technical.

1648
1:22:13 --> 1:22:17
I was a political science major and MBA in business.

1649
1:22:17 --> 1:22:20
I was not really eager to dig through a lot

1650
1:22:20 --> 1:22:24
of technical medical jargon, but I realized the issue

1651
1:22:24 --> 1:22:26
that I was trying to uncover was critical.

1652
1:22:26 --> 1:22:28
So when I was in the library with stacks

1653
1:22:28 --> 1:22:30
of medical journals all around me,

1654
1:22:30 --> 1:22:34
I had my medical dictionaries and psychopedias right there

1655
1:22:34 --> 1:22:37
to help me understand what the heck they were talking about.

1656
1:22:37 --> 1:22:40
We have to get people to overcome their fear

1657
1:22:40 --> 1:22:43
of asking questions and looking things up

1658
1:22:43 --> 1:22:46
and starting to question things.

1659
1:22:46 --> 1:22:49
And now things are much easier than when I was doing

1660
1:22:49 --> 1:22:51
this kind of research because I mean,

1661
1:22:51 --> 1:22:53
I was brought up the old fashioned way.

1662
1:22:53 --> 1:22:55
You go to the library and you find books

1663
1:22:55 --> 1:22:57
and medical journals, you do that.

1664
1:22:57 --> 1:23:01
Now they just go to Google, not really Google as much,

1665
1:23:01 --> 1:23:03
but you go online and you can search up for anything you want.

1666
1:23:03 --> 1:23:07
Just type in any name of any vaccine, type in side effect,

1667
1:23:07 --> 1:23:08
adverse reactions.

1668
1:23:08 --> 1:23:13
We have to find creative ways to get more of the public aware.

1669
1:23:14 --> 1:23:15
I will say on the positive side,

1670
1:23:15 --> 1:23:18
there are forces of good out there.

1671
1:23:18 --> 1:23:21
Like of course, Dr. Thorpe and Michelle,

1672
1:23:21 --> 1:23:25
Bobby Kennedy and many others who are very powerful people

1673
1:23:25 --> 1:23:26
in the background, I can tell you,

1674
1:23:26 --> 1:23:29
they are out there who don't like what's going on.

1675
1:23:29 --> 1:23:32
We have to wake up more people like that

1676
1:23:32 --> 1:23:34
and wake up more of the general public.

1677
1:23:34 --> 1:23:36
Because once the public understands

1678
1:23:36 --> 1:23:38
what I think most people here understand,

1679
1:23:38 --> 1:23:39
they will become outraged.

1680
1:23:39 --> 1:23:41
And then they will start putting pressure

1681
1:23:41 --> 1:23:44
to make the type of changes that Dr. Thorpe mentioned.

1682
1:23:44 --> 1:23:47
So I think we have to be creative with the good marketers.

1683
1:23:47 --> 1:23:49
Like one of the things that I have done

1684
1:23:49 --> 1:23:52
is I've created some animations, some cartoons,

1685
1:23:52 --> 1:23:55
essentially that deal with some of these issues,

1686
1:23:55 --> 1:23:57
but it does it very briefly,

1687
1:23:57 --> 1:23:59
in a very funny, cute, entertaining way,

1688
1:23:59 --> 1:24:01
but it gets the message across.

1689
1:24:01 --> 1:24:03
Everybody who watched those animations I've created

1690
1:24:04 --> 1:24:06
understand the issues a lot better.

1691
1:24:06 --> 1:24:08
So I think we need to be very creative

1692
1:24:08 --> 1:24:10
at marketing this information

1693
1:24:10 --> 1:24:13
so the average person, grassroots level, understand this.

1694
1:24:13 --> 1:24:16
And we need to push this out there as much as possible.

1695
1:24:16 --> 1:24:17
Because once the public understands,

1696
1:24:17 --> 1:24:19
I mean, I've seen it many times,

1697
1:24:19 --> 1:24:20
when people understand some of these issues,

1698
1:24:20 --> 1:24:22
they become outraged.

1699
1:24:22 --> 1:24:24
They become like raving fanatics.

1700
1:24:24 --> 1:24:25
I know I went through that stage.

1701
1:24:25 --> 1:24:26
We have to get more of the public.

1702
1:24:26 --> 1:24:29
And I will say over the past 30 years,

1703
1:24:29 --> 1:24:33
we have grown more in the past three years

1704
1:24:33 --> 1:24:35
in terms of people being aware of the dangers

1705
1:24:35 --> 1:24:38
of vaccines and the corruption of medical establishment.

1706
1:24:38 --> 1:24:41
We are now millions across the country and around the world,

1707
1:24:41 --> 1:24:43
and that's phenomenal, but we need a lot more.

1708
1:24:43 --> 1:24:45
So public awareness, I think,

1709
1:24:45 --> 1:24:47
is one of the critical elements

1710
1:24:47 --> 1:24:49
in bringing down this corrupt system

1711
1:24:49 --> 1:24:52
and placing something that does what it's really supposed to,

1712
1:24:52 --> 1:24:55
which is save lives and do the right thing.

1713
1:24:56 --> 1:24:58
So James, I agree with you

1714
1:24:58 --> 1:25:00
and with what you've been saying as well, Curtis,

1715
1:25:00 --> 1:25:05
but I think that what we've seen in the last three years

1716
1:25:05 --> 1:25:08
is a totally broken medical system

1717
1:25:09 --> 1:25:11
and we can't reform this.

1718
1:25:11 --> 1:25:13
We have to start again.

1719
1:25:13 --> 1:25:15
We have to start again.

1720
1:25:15 --> 1:25:19
And yeah, you know, I possibly was trained

1721
1:25:19 --> 1:25:24
under the shadow of this medical industrial complex,

1722
1:25:24 --> 1:25:29
which was kind of, but at least we knew about ethics.

1723
1:25:31 --> 1:25:33
So once, when I look back,

1724
1:25:34 --> 1:25:37
so I think, well, actually all those drugs,

1725
1:25:37 --> 1:25:42
you know, I was shocked by the big pharma representatives

1726
1:25:42 --> 1:25:46
who came around, you know, trying to encourage doctors

1727
1:25:46 --> 1:25:48
to prescribe their medicine.

1728
1:25:48 --> 1:25:51
Well, first of all, I thought that was improper.

1729
1:25:51 --> 1:25:53
And then I used to ask them,

1730
1:25:53 --> 1:25:56
I used to say, these studies look pretty shaky.

1731
1:25:56 --> 1:26:00
You know, the numbers are too small to draw any conclusions

1732
1:26:00 --> 1:26:02
and they just batted away, you know,

1733
1:26:02 --> 1:26:06
and but nobody else was asking any questions.

1734
1:26:06 --> 1:26:10
So doctors, I mean, so the drugs reps,

1735
1:26:10 --> 1:26:13
they wanted to see the doctors

1736
1:26:13 --> 1:26:14
and then they would take us out to dinner

1737
1:26:14 --> 1:26:16
and goodness knows what else, you know.

1738
1:26:19 --> 1:26:22
Yeah, initially you could, I didn't go,

1739
1:26:22 --> 1:26:25
but doctors did go on holiday

1740
1:26:25 --> 1:26:28
at the expense of these big pharma companies.

1741
1:26:28 --> 1:26:31
But to be fair, I don't think, you know,

1742
1:26:32 --> 1:26:35
I'm not sure, but I don't think that many of them

1743
1:26:35 --> 1:26:36
understood what was going on,

1744
1:26:36 --> 1:26:39
that they were being bribed essentially.

1745
1:26:40 --> 1:26:44
What I think now, James, is that not only do we have

1746
1:26:44 --> 1:26:48
to start again, but we have to look at all the drugs.

1747
1:26:48 --> 1:26:52
We can't, clearly have been massively misled

1748
1:26:52 --> 1:26:53
with these injections.

1749
1:26:53 --> 1:26:57
So we have to look at all vaccinations in inverted commas.

1750
1:26:58 --> 1:27:01
We have to also consider, you know,

1751
1:27:01 --> 1:27:03
the people who are shouting out about no viruses

1752
1:27:03 --> 1:27:05
and getting very frustrated.

1753
1:27:05 --> 1:27:07
I personally think there was no pandemic

1754
1:27:07 --> 1:27:11
and there was no disease called COVID-19.

1755
1:27:11 --> 1:27:12
That's the no virus thing.

1756
1:27:12 --> 1:27:15
We haven't got time for that in my opinion.

1757
1:27:16 --> 1:27:19
We need to look at that later,

1758
1:27:19 --> 1:27:22
but we're never gonna get the people

1759
1:27:22 --> 1:27:27
to understand that at the moment in time.

1760
1:27:27 --> 1:27:29
We have limited time to get,

1761
1:27:29 --> 1:27:32
but we can get them to understand

1762
1:27:32 --> 1:27:33
that there was no pandemic.

1763
1:27:33 --> 1:27:35
I think that's possible.

1764
1:27:35 --> 1:27:37
And we may be able to, you know,

1765
1:27:37 --> 1:27:40
if doctors explain the process of diagnosis,

1766
1:27:40 --> 1:27:45
it seems to me that the diagnosis of COVID-19

1767
1:27:45 --> 1:27:46
was never properly done.

1768
1:27:46 --> 1:27:49
They used a test which should never have been used,

1769
1:27:49 --> 1:27:53
was fraudulent, to diagnose a viral illness.

1770
1:27:53 --> 1:27:55
We've never used a test before

1771
1:27:55 --> 1:27:56
to diagnose a viral illness.

1772
1:27:56 --> 1:27:59
So why is it that I was one of the few doctors

1773
1:28:00 --> 1:28:02
pointing that out in 2020?

1774
1:28:02 --> 1:28:05
And I was kind of half disbelieving what I was saying

1775
1:28:05 --> 1:28:08
because I couldn't understand why there's so much silence.

1776
1:28:08 --> 1:28:11
And so the other thing was that I noticed

1777
1:28:11 --> 1:28:13
that there was no symptom

1778
1:28:13 --> 1:28:16
which was pathognomonic for COVID-19.

1779
1:28:16 --> 1:28:20
All the symptoms could be due to flu, pneumonia,

1780
1:28:20 --> 1:28:22
respiratory syncytial virus,

1781
1:28:22 --> 1:28:24
the common cold which disappeared.

1782
1:28:24 --> 1:28:25
It was just nonsense.

1783
1:28:25 --> 1:28:27
And I think that the fraud was so big

1784
1:28:27 --> 1:28:29
that there was no pandemic

1785
1:28:30 --> 1:28:31
and there was no COVID-19.

1786
1:28:31 --> 1:28:33
It's possible that there's no virus

1787
1:28:33 --> 1:28:34
and there never was any virus.

1788
1:28:34 --> 1:28:35
And the whole world.

1789
1:28:35 --> 1:28:36
Come on, come on, come on.

1790
1:28:36 --> 1:28:37
No, hang on.

1791
1:28:37 --> 1:28:41
The whole world of virology was constructed

1792
1:28:41 --> 1:28:45
so that these perverts could do what they've been doing

1793
1:28:45 --> 1:28:46
for the last three years.

1794
1:28:46 --> 1:28:51
And not only virology, but genomics, epidemiology.

1795
1:28:53 --> 1:28:56
I don't reckon on epidemiology.

1796
1:28:56 --> 1:28:58
Most epidemiologists are not doctors,

1797
1:28:58 --> 1:29:00
although a secret fact he is.

1798
1:29:01 --> 1:29:05
And the other thing that I'm very suspicious about, James,

1799
1:29:05 --> 1:29:08
is evidence-based medicine in inverted commas

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because it's a tyranny.

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It's a tyranny to get doctors to do all the same thing.

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That's not how doctors work.

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We were taught that at medical school.

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Anyway.

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Enough.

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Come on.

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Okay.

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1:29:22 --> 1:29:23
No.

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Okay, I'm sorry.

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Can I just comment on what you were saying?

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I'm sorry, Curtis, yes.

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I thought it was someone else.

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Yes, Chris, you should.

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1:29:29 --> 1:29:31
Steven, I completely agree.

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1:29:31 --> 1:29:33
In my book, Vaccines Are Dangerous,

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I have two chapters that I think you might find interesting.

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One chapter is entitled, Don't Trust Doctors.

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1:29:39 --> 1:29:41
And I have a whole list of books and articles

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talking about how doctors, according to their own literature,

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1:29:44 --> 1:29:48
it's the third leading cause of death in this country,

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1:29:48 --> 1:29:49
saying nothing about what around the world.

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1:29:49 --> 1:29:52
Gary Knowles' team estimates that doctors are responsible

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for like a million deaths annually.

1824
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That's Gary Knowles' team.

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1:29:55 --> 1:29:57
But I think it was a Harvard study

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1:29:57 --> 1:30:00
that showed that it was like, I think 250,000 deaths,

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one third of all the deaths in this country.

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There are a lot of problems with a lot of doctors.

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I don't want to go into too many details,

1830
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but we need to look at the big picture.

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This is something that was created for profit

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1:30:13 --> 1:30:15
by very notorious people.

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And I encourage you to read Rockefeller Medicine

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1:30:18 --> 1:30:22
and Medical Mafia, many other books that I document

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in that chapter, Don't Trust Doctors.

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So yes, we need to look at the big picture.

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I will say there are good doctors like Dr. Thorpe

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and others out there, and others who are quiet,

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that do the right thing and do save lives.

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So I do want to acknowledge those.

1841
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But unfortunately, there's too many of those

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who just go along with what's happening

1843
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and people suffer and die as a consequence.

1844
1:30:42 --> 1:30:45
Another chapter in my book, Vaccines are Dangerous,

1845
1:30:45 --> 1:30:48
is a chapter called Exaggerating Diseases,

1846
1:30:48 --> 1:30:51
in which I look at a whole list of common diseases

1847
1:30:51 --> 1:30:53
which vaccines have been created.

1848
1:30:53 --> 1:30:55
And I show it each and every case,

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1:30:55 --> 1:30:57
the diseases were minor.

1850
1:30:57 --> 1:30:58
It wasn't an automatic death sentence.

1851
1:30:58 --> 1:31:01
Measles, for example, is not a death sentence.

1852
1:31:01 --> 1:31:03
The average kid will get a fever and a rash

1853
1:31:03 --> 1:31:06
for a couple of days, a week or so, and they recover.

1854
1:31:06 --> 1:31:08
Now that's true in America, but you know,

1855
1:31:08 --> 1:31:10
third world countries where health problems, yeah,

1856
1:31:10 --> 1:31:12
well, they can get sick from anything.

1857
1:31:12 --> 1:31:14
But in America, those diseases are minor.

1858
1:31:14 --> 1:31:17
Polio, you look at the action statistics,

1859
1:31:17 --> 1:31:21
the uptick of polio was in the 50s, around 50,000 cases.

1860
1:31:21 --> 1:31:24
Well, if you look at the FDA's own standards,

1861
1:31:24 --> 1:31:28
CDC's own standards for what constitutes a rare disease,

1862
1:31:28 --> 1:31:29
here's the number everybody should remember

1863
1:31:29 --> 1:31:32
if you don't know it already, 200,000.

1864
1:31:32 --> 1:31:35
Okay, so remember that, write it down, 200,000.

1865
1:31:35 --> 1:31:37
According to our own government's agencies,

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any disease that affects fewer than 200,000 people

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is considered a rare disease.

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1:31:43 --> 1:31:46
So if you look at polio at its height, 50,000.

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1:31:46 --> 1:31:49
Well, if 50,000 cases is here,

1870
1:31:49 --> 1:31:52
and the standard is 200,000, where's the emergency?

1871
1:31:52 --> 1:31:53
There was no emergency.

1872
1:31:53 --> 1:31:54
There threw people into a panic.

1873
1:31:54 --> 1:31:58
Right, there was never an emergency, and there still isn't.

1874
1:31:58 --> 1:32:02
So why on earth is USA currently, at the moment,

1875
1:32:02 --> 1:32:05
I cannot enter the USA because I'm not vaccinated.

1876
1:32:05 --> 1:32:07
That's medical apartheid.

1877
1:32:07 --> 1:32:10
So if there's no emergency, why is the United States

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1:32:10 --> 1:32:15
of all countries in the world operating medical apartheid?

1879
1:32:15 --> 1:32:17
It just doesn't make sense, does it?

1880
1:32:17 --> 1:32:18
Well, it does make sense if you realize,

1881
1:32:18 --> 1:32:20
I mean, the- Of course, yes.

1882
1:32:20 --> 1:32:22
that created this system.

1883
1:32:22 --> 1:32:26
It's a for-profit system where profits come before people.

1884
1:32:26 --> 1:32:27
And they already make plenty of money,

1885
1:32:27 --> 1:32:29
but they're not satisfied with that,

1886
1:32:29 --> 1:32:31
so they want more, plus their other political agendas,

1887
1:32:31 --> 1:32:32
you know, population control.

1888
1:32:32 --> 1:32:37
So Curtis, and James, so I think that it's not surprising

1889
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at all that doctors have been targeted,

1890
1:32:40 --> 1:32:41
because if you think about it, you know,

1891
1:32:41 --> 1:32:44
doctors don't realize it because they're very young

1892
1:32:44 --> 1:32:45
when they qualify usually,

1893
1:32:46 --> 1:32:49
and so, but they have enormous power

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1:32:49 --> 1:32:53
over people's lives and hopes, you know, ill.

1895
1:32:53 --> 1:32:56
So if people are ill, the first thing they look for,

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1:32:56 --> 1:32:58
and we would probably do, well, actually,

1897
1:32:58 --> 1:33:00
I don't know whether I would at the moment,

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1:33:00 --> 1:33:02
I'd turn to a doctor, I was gonna say.

1899
1:33:02 --> 1:33:03
No, I wouldn't actually.

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1:33:03 --> 1:33:06
I wouldn't go to the nearest hospital, certainly.

1901
1:33:06 --> 1:33:09
But anyway, point is that you turn to,

1902
1:33:09 --> 1:33:14
so, and everyone wants, needs a good doctor at some stage.

1903
1:33:14 --> 1:33:16
So it's in our interest to sort this out,

1904
1:33:16 --> 1:33:19
not just for humanity's sake,

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1:33:19 --> 1:33:21
but also for every individual human being

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1:33:21 --> 1:33:23
who wants to complete their lives

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1:33:23 --> 1:33:26
as much as they possibly can.

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1:33:26 --> 1:33:30
So, and so I think that it's not surprising

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1:33:30 --> 1:33:33
that doctors have been targeted by Big Pharma.

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1:33:33 --> 1:33:37
We should have been taught about that at medical school,

1911
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the danger of being coerced by Big Pharma,

1912
1:33:40 --> 1:33:44
and this kind of event, this has to be told.

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1:33:44 --> 1:33:46
Come on, come on, come on.

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1:33:46 --> 1:33:47
We got questions.

1915
1:33:47 --> 1:33:49
I was thinking of a response to that,

1916
1:33:49 --> 1:33:51
I would say that from what I've read,

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1:33:51 --> 1:33:52
I'm not a doctor, but you guys are doctors,

1918
1:33:52 --> 1:33:55
so you can confirm this or not.

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1:33:55 --> 1:33:56
When they're recruiting

1920
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who's gonna get into medical school,

1921
1:33:58 --> 1:34:01
they're not looking for independent thinkers

1922
1:34:01 --> 1:34:03
of the creative type, the ones who are gonna rock the boat.

1923
1:34:03 --> 1:34:05
They want conformists.

1924
1:34:05 --> 1:34:06
People are gonna do what they're told.

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1:34:06 --> 1:34:08
That's what I've read, that's what I've heard from doctors.

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And so you have a group of people

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1:34:10 --> 1:34:12
that are good at what they do,

1928
1:34:12 --> 1:34:15
but their personality type, they were chosen

1929
1:34:15 --> 1:34:17
because they're not the kind of people

1930
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who are gonna rock the boat.

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1:34:18 --> 1:34:20
In fact, one of the reasons I chose not to become a doctor

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is because I've been underpaid.

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1:34:22 --> 1:34:26
They're very good at school, very good at passing exams.

1934
1:34:26 --> 1:34:29
They're very good at complying at school,

1935
1:34:29 --> 1:34:31
being a good student,

1936
1:34:31 --> 1:34:33
and they're very good at doing the right thing

1937
1:34:33 --> 1:34:37
in a so-called pandemic, which was never a pandemic.

1938
1:34:37 --> 1:34:39
Well, that's one of the reasons I chose not to be a doctor

1939
1:34:39 --> 1:34:40
because I knew that I was gonna rock the boat

1940
1:34:40 --> 1:34:42
and had to lose my license.

1941
1:34:42 --> 1:34:43
I just knew that about myself.

1942
1:34:43 --> 1:34:47
So I do wanna say that in the chapter on exaggerating disease,

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1:34:47 --> 1:34:49
I go through a whole list of different diseases

1944
1:34:49 --> 1:34:51
and I show the statistics

1945
1:34:51 --> 1:34:52
and the medical science own literature,

1946
1:34:52 --> 1:34:54
these things are all minor,

1947
1:34:54 --> 1:34:57
including up to the COVID situation.

1948
1:34:57 --> 1:34:59
I mean, most of the people were dying in 2020,

1949
1:34:59 --> 1:35:02
even though the overall death rate stayed about the same,

1950
1:35:02 --> 1:35:05
or declined depending what statistics you look at.

1951
1:35:05 --> 1:35:08
Most of the deaths were among elderly people,

1952
1:35:08 --> 1:35:11
people in their 80s or so who already had cancer

1953
1:35:11 --> 1:35:13
or diabetes or whatever.

1954
1:35:13 --> 1:35:15
And when they died, they just called it COVID.

1955
1:35:15 --> 1:35:18
What the people who were 20 and 30 years old

1956
1:35:18 --> 1:35:21
and average health, they were not dying of COVID.

1957
1:35:21 --> 1:35:23
The whole thing was blown out of proportion,

1958
1:35:23 --> 1:35:25
exactly gross lies.

1959
1:35:25 --> 1:35:28
In fact, there was one report that said that

1960
1:35:28 --> 1:35:31
there were cases of people who died of gunshot wounds

1961
1:35:31 --> 1:35:33
still listed as COVID deaths

1962
1:35:33 --> 1:35:34
because through the CARES Act,

1963
1:35:34 --> 1:35:37
these hospitals get money from declaring somebody

1964
1:35:37 --> 1:35:40
having COVID, testing positive or die from COVID.

1965
1:35:40 --> 1:35:42
They literally get money for that.

1966
1:35:42 --> 1:35:43
Just look up the CARES Act.

1967
1:35:43 --> 1:35:44
Yes, we know about that, Curtis.

1968
1:35:44 --> 1:35:46
Right, so I'm just saying.

1969
1:35:46 --> 1:35:48
So it was a total failure of diagnosis,

1970
1:35:48 --> 1:35:49
but why did it happen?

1971
1:35:49 --> 1:35:52
It was necessary to drive the pandemic,

1972
1:35:52 --> 1:35:56
which wasn't a pandemic, through fear and shame.

1973
1:35:56 --> 1:35:58
And this is the tactic,

1974
1:35:58 --> 1:36:00
you know, the last time I was on your program,

1975
1:36:00 --> 1:36:04
I talked about my presentation I gave in Tennessee,

1976
1:36:04 --> 1:36:06
and that was the whole focus.

1977
1:36:06 --> 1:36:08
They've taken the same script going back 100 years

1978
1:36:08 --> 1:36:13
to Spanish flu and used the same script again and again,

1979
1:36:13 --> 1:36:15
throwing people into a panic for a disease

1980
1:36:15 --> 1:36:17
that does not exist,

1981
1:36:17 --> 1:36:20
causing people to run out to get tests with face masks

1982
1:36:20 --> 1:36:21
and especially get the vaccines.

1983
1:36:21 --> 1:36:22
And when they get the vaccines,

1984
1:36:22 --> 1:36:25
that's when they start getting sick and start dying.

1985
1:36:25 --> 1:36:28
It was true 100 years ago, it was true with H1N1,

1986
1:36:28 --> 1:36:31
it was true with swine flu, and it's true now with COVID.

1987
1:36:31 --> 1:36:34
The ones who are dying are the ones who take the shot.

1988
1:36:34 --> 1:36:36
So we've got to get the public,

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1:36:36 --> 1:36:39
do more to wake up the public to understand the lies

1990
1:36:39 --> 1:36:42
that they've been told and start thinking for themselves.

1991
1:36:42 --> 1:36:43
All right, come on.

1992
1:36:43 --> 1:36:44
On we go.

1993
1:36:44 --> 1:36:46
We seem to have lost hope, Charles.

1994
1:36:46 --> 1:36:48
Well, come on, stop talking, Stephen.

1995
1:36:48 --> 1:36:49
Shasta, thank you.

1996
1:36:49 --> 1:36:50
Have we done your question?

1997
1:36:51 --> 1:36:54
Yes, I think this is a really good inquiry

1998
1:36:54 --> 1:36:58
is because we're not all gonna agree on anything,

1999
1:36:58 --> 1:37:01
but if we could all agree that we want safe medicine,

2000
1:37:02 --> 1:37:03
I think we can get somewhere.

2001
1:37:03 --> 1:37:04
Sure.

2002
1:37:04 --> 1:37:05
Absolutely.

2003
1:37:05 --> 1:37:06
Thank you, Shasta.

2004
1:37:06 --> 1:37:07
Will.

2005
1:37:14 --> 1:37:15
You're muted, Will.

2006
1:37:19 --> 1:37:22
No, he's not muted.

2007
1:37:22 --> 1:37:24
His microphone's not working as happened before.

2008
1:37:24 --> 1:37:25
Well, he thinks that.

2009
1:37:25 --> 1:37:27
Mariah, you go next.

2010
1:37:29 --> 1:37:31
Thank you very much.

2011
1:37:31 --> 1:37:34
My question is for Curtis.

2012
1:37:34 --> 1:37:38
Curtis, you've been involved with the issue

2013
1:37:38 --> 1:37:42
of dangers of vaccines for a long time.

2014
1:37:42 --> 1:37:45
And I wonder if you have anything you could tell us

2015
1:37:45 --> 1:37:50
about the overuse of injection given to our...

2016
1:37:55 --> 1:37:57
Wait, there's an echo.

2017
1:37:59 --> 1:38:00
William, why don't you...

2018
1:38:01 --> 1:38:03
Your microphone and your camera out.

2019
1:38:04 --> 1:38:06
Yeah, anyway.

2020
1:38:06 --> 1:38:08
Okay, Mariah, did you finish your question?

2021
1:38:08 --> 1:38:09
No, I'm sorry.

2022
1:38:09 --> 1:38:09
Can you hear me now?

2023
1:38:09 --> 1:38:10
Yeah, I can hear you.

2024
1:38:10 --> 1:38:11
Oh, I'm sorry, okay.

2025
1:38:11 --> 1:38:14
So I wonder if you can say anything

2026
1:38:14 --> 1:38:16
about the overuse of the injections

2027
1:38:16 --> 1:38:20
where we're encouraged and often required

2028
1:38:20 --> 1:38:24
to give our dogs and cats, our pets,

2029
1:38:24 --> 1:38:29
and we often don't get informed consent about those either.

2030
1:38:30 --> 1:38:31
Thank you.

2031
1:38:31 --> 1:38:34
Sure, I mean, I've been thinking about writing a book on that.

2032
1:38:34 --> 1:38:38
Now, if you realize that they have no qualms

2033
1:38:38 --> 1:38:42
about poisoning human babies, pregnant mothers.

2034
1:38:42 --> 1:38:45
Now, you can just imagine the horrendous stuff

2035
1:38:45 --> 1:38:47
they're putting in the vaccines for the dogs and the cats.

2036
1:38:50 --> 1:38:52
It's just frightening to think about it

2037
1:38:52 --> 1:38:54
because people love their animals.

2038
1:38:54 --> 1:38:59
In fact, when I got my dog and cat from a shelter,

2039
1:38:59 --> 1:39:01
I was supposed to have it vaccinated,

2040
1:39:01 --> 1:39:03
but I never did, there's no way.

2041
1:39:03 --> 1:39:05
I knew I don't trust vaccines for humans.

2042
1:39:05 --> 1:39:08
How the heck am I gonna trust vaccines for animals?

2043
1:39:09 --> 1:39:10
I never did.

2044
1:39:10 --> 1:39:14
And my dog, I estimated he had to be at least 18 human years,

2045
1:39:14 --> 1:39:16
lived a very long, happy life.

2046
1:39:16 --> 1:39:17
Same thing with my cat.

2047
1:39:17 --> 1:39:18
Neither one of them vaccinated.

2048
1:39:18 --> 1:39:20
They were very healthy and strong,

2049
1:39:20 --> 1:39:22
lived way beyond what dogs and cats normally use.

2050
1:39:22 --> 1:39:24
And I meant human years.

2051
1:39:24 --> 1:39:28
And so I haven't delved into the specifics,

2052
1:39:28 --> 1:39:30
but I can already imagine.

2053
1:39:30 --> 1:39:32
And that's the book that I think I should write,

2054
1:39:32 --> 1:39:32
would like to write,

2055
1:39:32 --> 1:39:36
because most pet owners, they just do what they're told

2056
1:39:36 --> 1:39:37
and vaccinate their kids.

2057
1:39:37 --> 1:39:41
But I do have reports of dogs getting sick

2058
1:39:41 --> 1:39:43
and having all kinds of other problems,

2059
1:39:43 --> 1:39:45
but I'll talk about that more detailed

2060
1:39:45 --> 1:39:47
when I actually get around to writing that book.

2061
1:39:47 --> 1:39:48
But it's something that needs to be done

2062
1:39:48 --> 1:39:51
because most pet owners, they know nothing about this issue.

2063
1:39:52 --> 1:39:54
Thank you very much.

2064
1:39:54 --> 1:39:57
Thank you, Mariah.

2065
1:39:57 --> 1:39:57
Thank you, Curtis.

2066
1:39:57 --> 1:40:00
Will, is your microphone fixed?

2067
1:40:01 --> 1:40:02
Check, check, check.

2068
1:40:02 --> 1:40:03
Can you hear me now?

2069
1:40:03 --> 1:40:04
Yes, we can.

2070
1:40:05 --> 1:40:06
Great, thank you.

2071
1:40:06 --> 1:40:07
Sorry about that.

2072
1:40:09 --> 1:40:11
Okay, so this is for Curtis.

2073
1:40:11 --> 1:40:11
Hi, Curtis.

2074
1:40:13 --> 1:40:15
Doing good.

2075
1:40:15 --> 1:40:18
This is, I want to remind you of a conversation

2076
1:40:18 --> 1:40:20
that we had on your sub stack.

2077
1:40:20 --> 1:40:23
And the title of the post was,

2078
1:40:23 --> 1:40:27
and it was a video that was part of the post.

2079
1:40:27 --> 1:40:28
It was an animation.

2080
1:40:28 --> 1:40:32
It was called Crash Course on the COVID PCR.

2081
1:40:32 --> 1:40:35
And it was published on January 6th.

2082
1:40:36 --> 1:40:38
And my first question is,

2083
1:40:38 --> 1:40:42
was that video written and or funded

2084
1:40:42 --> 1:40:44
by Children's Health Defense?

2085
1:40:44 --> 1:40:45
No, no, it wasn't.

2086
1:40:45 --> 1:40:49
It was funded by Music is Medical mandates

2087
1:40:49 --> 1:40:52
and I wrote and directed the script.

2088
1:40:52 --> 1:40:56
Okay, I just thought that millions against medical mandates

2089
1:40:56 --> 1:40:58
might've been a program.

2090
1:40:58 --> 1:41:00
Sometimes they have physical sponsors.

2091
1:41:00 --> 1:41:01
I just thought the physical sponsor

2092
1:41:01 --> 1:41:04
might've been Children's Health Defense.

2093
1:41:04 --> 1:41:05
Yeah, we had a sponsor,

2094
1:41:05 --> 1:41:09
but they paid for the first three that I did,

2095
1:41:09 --> 1:41:11
but couldn't get other sponsorship for others.

2096
1:41:11 --> 1:41:14
So that project got halted.

2097
1:41:14 --> 1:41:16
But we'd like to have it started up again,

2098
1:41:16 --> 1:41:18
because that was a great mechanism

2099
1:41:18 --> 1:41:20
for communicating information to people

2100
1:41:20 --> 1:41:24
in a non-threatening way that's entertaining and very brief.

2101
1:41:24 --> 1:41:24
Yeah.

2102
1:41:24 --> 1:41:26
But what was the question?

2103
1:41:26 --> 1:41:26
Oh yeah, thank you.

2104
1:41:26 --> 1:41:31
Will, reduce your microphone in for it's far too loud.

2105
1:41:32 --> 1:41:33
Okay, sorry about that.

2106
1:41:33 --> 1:41:34
How about now?

2107
1:41:34 --> 1:41:35
That's better. Better?

2108
1:41:35 --> 1:41:36
Yep.

2109
1:41:36 --> 1:41:38
I'm sorry about that.

2110
1:41:38 --> 1:41:43
Yeah, Curtis, so my question is that about this video

2111
1:41:43 --> 1:41:47
and the accompanying text of the article contains,

2112
1:41:47 --> 1:41:50
I would say confusing information, contradictory,

2113
1:41:50 --> 1:41:52
and some of it is, I would say, false information.

2114
1:41:52 --> 1:41:55
Hang on, hang on, hang on, Will.

2115
1:41:55 --> 1:41:59
This is not a, what the F are you doing?

2116
1:41:59 --> 1:42:02
I'm gonna ask, Charles, this is a very-

2117
1:42:02 --> 1:42:04
Ask the question.

2118
1:42:04 --> 1:42:07
I have to do a set of, this is gonna take me two minutes.

2119
1:42:07 --> 1:42:10
If you allow me to express myself,

2120
1:42:10 --> 1:42:11
I'm gonna be able to get to the question.

2121
1:42:11 --> 1:42:12
Be relevant, listen.

2122
1:42:12 --> 1:42:13
The deal-

2123
1:42:13 --> 1:42:14
Is relevant?

2124
1:42:14 --> 1:42:16
Good, keep going.

2125
1:42:16 --> 1:42:17
Okay, thank you.

2126
1:42:17 --> 1:42:21
So Curtis, we all wanna get to the bottom of this thing.

2127
1:42:21 --> 1:42:24
Everybody wants to get to the bottom of this thing, okay?

2128
1:42:24 --> 1:42:29
So my question is that this video,

2129
1:42:29 --> 1:42:31
I mean, in the comment section,

2130
1:42:31 --> 1:42:33
you and I were discussing in the comments

2131
1:42:33 --> 1:42:35
and in the comment section, you admitted,

2132
1:42:35 --> 1:42:36
here's what you said.

2133
1:42:36 --> 1:42:41
Yes, I know that no COVID virus has ever been purified

2134
1:42:41 --> 1:42:42
and proven to exist.

2135
1:42:42 --> 1:42:45
Therefore, there's nothing for the PCR test to be based on.

2136
1:42:45 --> 1:42:48
You also said this test has also been proven

2137
1:42:48 --> 1:42:49
to be worthless.

2138
1:42:49 --> 1:42:54
Yet in the video, the video makes the statement

2139
1:42:54 --> 1:42:59
that the COVID PCR can produce 90% false positives.

2140
1:42:59 --> 1:43:02
This is implying that the COVID PCR is meaningful

2141
1:43:02 --> 1:43:05
in perhaps 10% of the cases,

2142
1:43:05 --> 1:43:09
which is by your own admission, and that's not true.

2143
1:43:09 --> 1:43:12
And then the other statement is that the video says

2144
1:43:12 --> 1:43:15
that casual transmission from healthy people

2145
1:43:16 --> 1:43:16
is virtually zero.

2146
1:43:16 --> 1:43:19
And I would say transmission of what?

2147
1:43:19 --> 1:43:23
The text confirms that,

2148
1:43:23 --> 1:43:27
says people infected with COVID-19 who are asymptomatic,

2149
1:43:27 --> 1:43:30
which is most people, do not spread COVID-19

2150
1:43:30 --> 1:43:32
and you cite children's health defense.

2151
1:43:32 --> 1:43:36
So my question is, why would you create a video

2152
1:43:36 --> 1:43:41
that by your own admission contains false information?

2153
1:43:41 --> 1:43:43
Well, good question.

2154
1:43:44 --> 1:43:48
The thing is, when you start talking about viruses,

2155
1:43:48 --> 1:43:51
it's a very tricky thing because it's not something

2156
1:43:51 --> 1:43:55
you can explain to the general public in 30 seconds.

2157
1:43:56 --> 1:43:58
That video is like five minutes.

2158
1:43:58 --> 1:44:00
If I would have gone to the details of all of that

2159
1:44:00 --> 1:44:02
that you're talking to,

2160
1:44:02 --> 1:44:03
it'll be a lot more than five minutes.

2161
1:44:03 --> 1:44:05
It will lose a lot of people.

2162
1:44:05 --> 1:44:10
Yes, the claim about being the 90% false positive,

2163
1:44:11 --> 1:44:14
I know it's bogus because the test is 100% false positive.

2164
1:44:14 --> 1:44:19
But if I were to say that in a five-minute presentation,

2165
1:44:19 --> 1:44:21
there open a whole lot of other questions

2166
1:44:21 --> 1:44:23
that you wouldn't have time to go into.

2167
1:44:23 --> 1:44:25
But that's the mainstream information

2168
1:44:25 --> 1:44:28
about the accuracy of PCR.

2169
1:44:28 --> 1:44:30
So I took what was generally out there

2170
1:44:30 --> 1:44:32
and put that out there, which is damn near of itself,

2171
1:44:32 --> 1:44:34
but there's no time to go into all of that

2172
1:44:34 --> 1:44:36
in a five-minute video.

2173
1:44:36 --> 1:44:40
And yes, about the transmission, again,

2174
1:44:41 --> 1:44:43
if I were to go into the details behind that,

2175
1:44:43 --> 1:44:45
that'd be a much longer presentation.

2176
1:44:45 --> 1:44:50
I mean, you look at the works of Dr. Dave Rasnik,

2177
1:44:51 --> 1:44:56
Tom Cowan, many others out there,

2178
1:44:56 --> 1:45:00
they give great detailed presentations on the whole issue

2179
1:45:00 --> 1:45:02
of whether this COVID virus exists

2180
1:45:02 --> 1:45:04
or where the virus is exist.

2181
1:45:04 --> 1:45:07
Those are very long, detailed, complicated discussions.

2182
1:45:07 --> 1:45:10
Can we simplify, but you can't do all that

2183
1:45:10 --> 1:45:11
plus other things in a five-minute video.

2184
1:45:11 --> 1:45:14
So I appreciate what your concern is,

2185
1:45:14 --> 1:45:17
hope I clarified and that's a great question.

2186
1:45:17 --> 1:45:18
Thank you, Curtis.

2187
1:45:18 --> 1:45:21
I just, you know, it's just a super important point

2188
1:45:21 --> 1:45:22
to get right.

2189
1:45:22 --> 1:45:25
And it's hard for me to understand

2190
1:45:25 --> 1:45:27
how somebody who knows the truth

2191
1:45:27 --> 1:45:30
would promote this fiction that viruses exist,

2192
1:45:30 --> 1:45:32
that COVID was a real phenomenon.

2193
1:45:32 --> 1:45:34
Well, now- That's all I have.

2194
1:45:34 --> 1:45:35
Thank you.

2195
1:45:35 --> 1:45:37
Very, and that is an interesting point

2196
1:45:37 --> 1:45:41
in terms of getting a message across in five minutes.

2197
1:45:41 --> 1:45:42
Thank you, Will.

2198
1:45:42 --> 1:45:44
Thanks, Curtis, for the answer.

2199
1:45:44 --> 1:45:47
Kirk, more MD, more what?

2200
1:45:47 --> 1:45:51
More, now here we are, being playful.

2201
1:45:51 --> 1:45:52
Kirk?

2202
1:45:53 --> 1:45:55
I think Dr. Thorpe had his hand up.

2203
1:45:55 --> 1:45:58
He wanted to answer that real quickly before I started.

2204
1:45:58 --> 1:46:00
Oh yes, sorry, go ahead, James.

2205
1:46:00 --> 1:46:01
Sorry.

2206
1:46:01 --> 1:46:03
Oh yeah, I just wanted to,

2207
1:46:03 --> 1:46:05
with regard to the prior discussion,

2208
1:46:05 --> 1:46:10
I respect all points of view,

2209
1:46:10 --> 1:46:15
but this is exactly why I stay in my lane, okay?

2210
1:46:16 --> 1:46:20
I don't really wanna get involved with

2211
1:46:22 --> 1:46:25
issues that separate us.

2212
1:46:25 --> 1:46:27
I respect all opinions

2213
1:46:27 --> 1:46:30
and I've read on both sides extensively,

2214
1:46:30 --> 1:46:32
but I choose not to comment on them.

2215
1:46:32 --> 1:46:36
And here's why, it's devices.

2216
1:46:36 --> 1:46:39
And number one, I'm in my lane

2217
1:46:39 --> 1:46:42
and I am endowed,

2218
1:46:42 --> 1:46:45
I speak only what my commander in chief,

2219
1:46:45 --> 1:46:47
my creator tells me to talk about.

2220
1:46:48 --> 1:46:50
I talk about only what I know

2221
1:46:50 --> 1:46:53
to be absolutely for certain to be true.

2222
1:46:54 --> 1:46:58
The COVID-19 vaccines are killing my patients,

2223
1:46:58 --> 1:47:00
women of reproductive age, pregnant women,

2224
1:47:00 --> 1:47:02
pre-borns and newborns.

2225
1:47:02 --> 1:47:06
I don't really give a rat's anus

2226
1:47:06 --> 1:47:09
about what the exact mechanism is

2227
1:47:09 --> 1:47:11
or whether all of the other,

2228
1:47:11 --> 1:47:16
the bottom line is the shot is killing my patients.

2229
1:47:16 --> 1:47:20
That's all we need to know, stop the shots.

2230
1:47:21 --> 1:47:23
There's a black box warning,

2231
1:47:23 --> 1:47:26
no pregnant woman in this world

2232
1:47:26 --> 1:47:28
should ever be subjected

2233
1:47:28 --> 1:47:33
to an investigational gene shot, period, over.

2234
1:47:33 --> 1:47:36
Excellent, stop the shots everybody.

2235
1:47:36 --> 1:47:39
Thank you Jim, well expressed, Kirk.

2236
1:47:41 --> 1:47:43
I'm pleasure to be here.

2237
1:47:43 --> 1:47:45
Jim, nice to finally meet you face to face.

2238
1:47:47 --> 1:47:51
And I just have a couple of comments and then I'll get off.

2239
1:47:52 --> 1:47:55
I am total agreement with the whole medical, military,

2240
1:47:55 --> 1:47:58
industrial complex that we are warned about

2241
1:47:58 --> 1:47:59
when Eisenhower left office.

2242
1:48:01 --> 1:48:03
My question to you, Jim, is,

2243
1:48:03 --> 1:48:05
have you had any direct conversations?

2244
1:48:05 --> 1:48:07
And I'll finish up and then listen.

2245
1:48:07 --> 1:48:09
Have you had any direct conversations

2246
1:48:09 --> 1:48:13
with the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology

2247
1:48:13 --> 1:48:14
about what's going on?

2248
1:48:14 --> 1:48:18
Have they ever responded to any of these inquiries

2249
1:48:18 --> 1:48:21
regarding the increase in fetal demise?

2250
1:48:21 --> 1:48:23
Have they had any official statements

2251
1:48:23 --> 1:48:24
or anything going from there?

2252
1:48:25 --> 1:48:28
Second thing is along the lines with Pascal,

2253
1:48:28 --> 1:48:30
and I think he's already gotten off,

2254
1:48:30 --> 1:48:32
it's certainly late in Switzerland right now,

2255
1:48:32 --> 1:48:35
but I think that's something that we should have a big,

2256
1:48:35 --> 1:48:37
longer further discussion about,

2257
1:48:37 --> 1:48:41
because how do we combat this whole WHO, UN,

2258
1:48:41 --> 1:48:43
quote unquote, treaty?

2259
1:48:43 --> 1:48:45
And I think we need to have a much bigger discussion

2260
1:48:45 --> 1:48:48
along those lines, because this is way beyond

2261
1:48:48 --> 1:48:51
even just the medical industrial complex.

2262
1:48:51 --> 1:48:54
Individually, what can we do specifically

2263
1:48:55 --> 1:48:58
as individuals, both as physicians,

2264
1:48:58 --> 1:49:02
as practitioners, as politicians,

2265
1:49:02 --> 1:49:04
as influencers or whatever,

2266
1:49:04 --> 1:49:07
we kind of need to figure out a plan.

2267
1:49:07 --> 1:49:09
Some people talk about contacting our county governments,

2268
1:49:09 --> 1:49:10
our sheriff's departments.

2269
1:49:11 --> 1:49:13
I was on a Twitter space yesterday

2270
1:49:13 --> 1:49:16
where a guy mentioned that we have the opportunity,

2271
1:49:16 --> 1:49:20
or we actually have the legal right to form grand juries,

2272
1:49:20 --> 1:49:22
to go after people.

2273
1:49:22 --> 1:49:24
And then that way, when they show up in your county,

2274
1:49:25 --> 1:49:27
the means kind of very similar to what Pascal has done

2275
1:49:27 --> 1:49:32
when he started with his grand jury

2276
1:49:32 --> 1:49:35
and his complaint that he filed in his canton.

2277
1:49:36 --> 1:49:38
It was brought up earlier, I don't remember who it was,

2278
1:49:38 --> 1:49:40
vaccines are going into all mammals.

2279
1:49:40 --> 1:49:43
And so in one way or another, we are gonna get it.

2280
1:49:43 --> 1:49:46
They are forcing it into us by injecting our pigs

2281
1:49:46 --> 1:49:49
and injecting our cows.

2282
1:49:49 --> 1:49:52
They might even be spraying it in some capacity

2283
1:49:52 --> 1:49:57
on all of our fruit and vegetables that we get to.

2284
1:49:57 --> 1:50:00
The whole system is corrupted,

2285
1:50:00 --> 1:50:04
not just the medical system, not just the HHS,

2286
1:50:04 --> 1:50:06
the whole system is.

2287
1:50:06 --> 1:50:08
In this whole COVID thing,

2288
1:50:08 --> 1:50:12
we have not been able to get any case past a judge.

2289
1:50:12 --> 1:50:14
Everything has been thrown out

2290
1:50:14 --> 1:50:17
before it even gets to discovery.

2291
1:50:17 --> 1:50:19
Even the case that Brooke Jackson has right now,

2292
1:50:19 --> 1:50:22
which should be an easy slam dunk case

2293
1:50:22 --> 1:50:27
has still might not survive the motion to dismiss.

2294
1:50:27 --> 1:50:30
And if you watch what Jackie Breger

2295
1:50:31 --> 1:50:34
and what John Thaler presented to the conference

2296
1:50:34 --> 1:50:37
in Arizona just last week,

2297
1:50:37 --> 1:50:40
it was an amazing, amazing discussion

2298
1:50:40 --> 1:50:43
that needs further discussion.

2299
1:50:43 --> 1:50:45
And then I think Curtis, you brought up,

2300
1:50:45 --> 1:50:47
or somebody brought up something about

2301
1:50:47 --> 1:50:49
being able to educate ourselves.

2302
1:50:49 --> 1:50:50
The struggle with educating is,

2303
1:50:50 --> 1:50:53
and it was as mentioned earlier in the text,

2304
1:50:53 --> 1:50:54
in the thread here,

2305
1:50:54 --> 1:50:58
is that we didn't know that each one of us was out there.

2306
1:50:58 --> 1:51:00
Yes, some people managed to get on TV,

2307
1:51:00 --> 1:51:01
some people managed to be,

2308
1:51:03 --> 1:51:05
kind of get out there and get on TV and everything else

2309
1:51:05 --> 1:51:06
and get on the radio.

2310
1:51:06 --> 1:51:10
And we were able to kind of listen to what they had to say,

2311
1:51:10 --> 1:51:11
but everything is censored.

2312
1:51:11 --> 1:51:14
Google is now censoring and shutting down websites

2313
1:51:14 --> 1:51:18
of anybody and everybody who claims that this is a lab leak

2314
1:51:19 --> 1:51:22
that the virus came out of a lab.

2315
1:51:22 --> 1:51:24
They're shutting people down.

2316
1:51:24 --> 1:51:28
So it's, even the people that may wanna educate themselves

2317
1:51:28 --> 1:51:29
have to find another way.

2318
1:51:29 --> 1:51:32
And so for the average person who just goes to Google,

2319
1:51:32 --> 1:51:35
which is 72% of the population,

2320
1:51:35 --> 1:51:37
and they're trying to look up lab leak theory,

2321
1:51:37 --> 1:51:40
they're not gonna see anything from the other side.

2322
1:51:40 --> 1:51:42
So, and then Curtis, one last thing,

2323
1:51:42 --> 1:51:45
you mentioned cartoons and you mentioned humor.

2324
1:51:46 --> 1:51:48
I think it's, I don't know the guy's name,

2325
1:51:48 --> 1:51:50
but I think it's Bob something or other out of England.

2326
1:51:50 --> 1:51:52
And he has a great series of cartoons

2327
1:51:52 --> 1:51:54
that he's done on this and he's made a career doing it.

2328
1:51:54 --> 1:51:59
So I think humor is a great way to try to address people.

2329
1:51:59 --> 1:52:00
So anyway, thank you.

2330
1:52:01 --> 1:52:04
And I appreciate the forum to,

2331
1:52:05 --> 1:52:07
to kind of speak my mind.

2332
1:52:07 --> 1:52:09
And I plan on getting on here a lot more frequently.

2333
1:52:09 --> 1:52:10
Thanks guys.

2334
1:52:10 --> 1:52:12
Kirk, can I respond to Kirk for a second?

2335
1:52:14 --> 1:52:15
Hello.

2336
1:52:15 --> 1:52:16
Let's.

2337
1:52:16 --> 1:52:17
Okay.

2338
1:52:19 --> 1:52:20
So where is Dr. Thorpe?

2339
1:52:20 --> 1:52:23
No, no, so Curtis go, Jim's doing something else.

2340
1:52:23 --> 1:52:26
First, I would like to agree with Kirk

2341
1:52:26 --> 1:52:31
about the need to give people other alternatives

2342
1:52:31 --> 1:52:33
for getting information.

2343
1:52:33 --> 1:52:36
You're right, he's right, you can't rely on Google,

2344
1:52:36 --> 1:52:38
but you can go to Children's Health Defense website,

2345
1:52:38 --> 1:52:43
you can go to Rumble or listen to Medical Dias of COVID Ethic.

2346
1:52:43 --> 1:52:47
We have to start directing people to the sources

2347
1:52:47 --> 1:52:48
where things aren't censored.

2348
1:52:48 --> 1:52:50
I mean, most of the things on Rumble and Bidshoe

2349
1:52:50 --> 1:52:52
are not censored.

2350
1:52:52 --> 1:52:54
And that's been one of my greatest efforts

2351
1:52:54 --> 1:52:56
to get things out to the average person,

2352
1:52:56 --> 1:52:58
let them know where they can go,

2353
1:52:58 --> 1:53:01
they get high quality, well-researched information,

2354
1:53:01 --> 1:53:04
which they're not gonna get in the mainstream,

2355
1:53:04 --> 1:53:05
social media or mainstream newspapers.

2356
1:53:05 --> 1:53:08
So that's why a lot of the events that I do

2357
1:53:08 --> 1:53:10
are on the streets, in the communities,

2358
1:53:10 --> 1:53:12
handing out flyers, talking to people,

2359
1:53:12 --> 1:53:14
doing local cable shows with people,

2360
1:53:14 --> 1:53:17
get the average person who's not already plugged in.

2361
1:53:17 --> 1:53:19
We got millions of people plugged into our networks,

2362
1:53:19 --> 1:53:21
but we need a lot more.

2363
1:53:21 --> 1:53:23
We need a lot more people on the grassroots,

2364
1:53:23 --> 1:53:25
including people who are Latino.

2365
1:53:25 --> 1:53:28
As bad as things are for a lot of us with our media,

2366
1:53:28 --> 1:53:29
it's worse for the Latino community

2367
1:53:29 --> 1:53:32
because they don't have any alternative sources

2368
1:53:32 --> 1:53:33
of information.

2369
1:53:33 --> 1:53:35
There's nobody else out there hardly

2370
1:53:35 --> 1:53:37
telling them this type of information.

2371
1:53:37 --> 1:53:40
So I think part of the challenge and opportunity

2372
1:53:40 --> 1:53:44
is to get more things to the average person

2373
1:53:44 --> 1:53:45
so they can know where to go.

2374
1:53:45 --> 1:53:47
I'm working on an initiative right now

2375
1:53:47 --> 1:53:51
with some cable channels that can help us do this.

2376
1:53:51 --> 1:53:53
And the other thing, whoever that person, Bob, is,

2377
1:53:53 --> 1:53:54
that Kirk was mentioning,

2378
1:53:54 --> 1:53:56
I'd love to get his full day of the website

2379
1:53:56 --> 1:53:58
and I'd love to see the type of animations

2380
1:53:58 --> 1:54:00
that he's doing on this topic.

2381
1:54:02 --> 1:54:04
Thank you, Curtis.

2382
1:54:05 --> 1:54:07
All right, Jim, did you get,

2383
1:54:07 --> 1:54:09
then I know you've been doing other things

2384
1:54:09 --> 1:54:10
just in terms of Kirk.

2385
1:54:10 --> 1:54:12
The question is, what can we do?

2386
1:54:12 --> 1:54:13
And Curtis has answered that question.

2387
1:54:13 --> 1:54:15
We've got to keep talking to people.

2388
1:54:15 --> 1:54:18
Our messaging, and Curtis made a crucial point,

2389
1:54:18 --> 1:54:21
the marketing of information is the crucial step.

2390
1:54:21 --> 1:54:23
That's up to all of us.

2391
1:54:23 --> 1:54:24
Absolutely. Jim?

2392
1:54:24 --> 1:54:27
And Jim, that is what you're doing.

2393
1:54:27 --> 1:54:28
So we need writers, yeah.

2394
1:54:28 --> 1:54:29
We need writers.

2395
1:54:31 --> 1:54:33
Messagers, people who are experts on messaging.

2396
1:54:34 --> 1:54:36
Sorry, James, you go ahead.

2397
1:54:37 --> 1:54:38
Well, I was just going to ask,

2398
1:54:38 --> 1:54:41
answer the question of Dr. Kirk Moore,

2399
1:54:41 --> 1:54:44
which is, yes, I've aggressively attacked

2400
1:54:44 --> 1:54:46
the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology,

2401
1:54:46 --> 1:54:50
aggressively, all the time, multiple times a week.

2402
1:54:50 --> 1:54:53
And I have communicated with them for over 18 months.

2403
1:54:53 --> 1:54:55
I've been slamming them.

2404
1:54:55 --> 1:54:57
And all they've done is threaten me.

2405
1:54:59 --> 1:55:01
Steve Kirsch, just a week ago,

2406
1:55:01 --> 1:55:05
published my letter to the American Board,

2407
1:55:05 --> 1:55:08
which was probably six months ago.

2408
1:55:08 --> 1:55:10
I've written several letters to them

2409
1:55:10 --> 1:55:12
and they failed to respond.

2410
1:55:12 --> 1:55:13
They don't have any answer.

2411
1:55:13 --> 1:55:15
They don't have any safety data.

2412
1:55:15 --> 1:55:16
Over.

2413
1:55:17 --> 1:55:18
Thank you, Jim.

2414
1:55:18 --> 1:55:22
So Charles, Bob Moran is the cartoonist, apparently.

2415
1:55:22 --> 1:55:25
I can't remember who it was.

2416
1:55:25 --> 1:55:26
Just put it in the chat.

2417
1:55:26 --> 1:55:27
Yep, very good.

2418
1:55:27 --> 1:55:28
Thank you.

2419
1:55:29 --> 1:55:30
Thanks for that.

2420
1:55:30 --> 1:55:32
Bob Moran, look him up, Curtis.

2421
1:55:32 --> 1:55:34
He's hilarious.

2422
1:55:34 --> 1:55:35
Fantastic, thank you.

2423
1:55:36 --> 1:55:37
Thank you, Kirk.

2424
1:55:37 --> 1:55:38
Yes, Elbit.

2425
1:55:40 --> 1:55:44
Yeah, Jim, how are you doing, my man?

2426
1:55:44 --> 1:55:46
I love you, God bless you.

2427
1:55:46 --> 1:55:48
I don't know why you like me so much,

2428
1:55:48 --> 1:55:52
but man, may God continue his hedge protection

2429
1:55:52 --> 1:55:54
around you and your family.

2430
1:55:54 --> 1:55:57
So sorry you got to make that quick trip out to,

2431
1:55:58 --> 1:56:01
you know, out to Texas, I guess,

2432
1:56:01 --> 1:56:03
but maybe I shouldn't have said that.

2433
1:56:03 --> 1:56:05
But anyways, God bless you, Jim.

2434
1:56:05 --> 1:56:09
I don't get to see you in person so much,

2435
1:56:09 --> 1:56:11
but I just wanted to throw out that

2436
1:56:11 --> 1:56:12
I didn't really have a question,

2437
1:56:12 --> 1:56:14
but I put up on the chat a download

2438
1:56:14 --> 1:56:17
for those little business cards that we made for you.

2439
1:56:17 --> 1:56:20
Not business cards, but it had, you know,

2440
1:56:21 --> 1:56:25
your picture on there and to say that these jabs aren't good

2441
1:56:25 --> 1:56:29
and, you know, the fertility stuff for people to print out

2442
1:56:29 --> 1:56:32
and take it to the street and hand them out to people.

2443
1:56:32 --> 1:56:35
And it's got a little QR code

2444
1:56:35 --> 1:56:38
that takes you back to more information.

2445
1:56:38 --> 1:56:40
So just grassroots stuff.

2446
1:56:40 --> 1:56:43
And of course, my man, Curtis Cost,

2447
1:56:44 --> 1:56:47
we got a good little group around here,

2448
1:56:47 --> 1:56:50
and I think this is one of the best Zoom groups

2449
1:56:52 --> 1:56:54
going right now and will be remembered

2450
1:56:54 --> 1:56:56
a thousand years from now.

2451
1:56:56 --> 1:57:00
And that goes all the way back to Charles and Dr. Frost.

2452
1:57:00 --> 1:57:04
So thank you guys for keeping this going.

2453
1:57:05 --> 1:57:06
Thank you, Albert.

2454
1:57:06 --> 1:57:07
Thank you.

2455
1:57:07 --> 1:57:08
Thank you, Albert.

2456
1:57:08 --> 1:57:09
Thanks.

2457
1:57:09 --> 1:57:11
Alex Bailey, so we've got one AB

2458
1:57:11 --> 1:57:13
and now we've gone to the next AB.

2459
1:57:13 --> 1:57:16
And then we've got a JB, golly gosh.

2460
1:57:20 --> 1:57:21
Alex, you're on mute.

2461
1:57:21 --> 1:57:22
Alex, you're muted.

2462
1:57:22 --> 1:57:24
Hi, can you hear me?

2463
1:57:24 --> 1:57:25
Yeah, yes.

2464
1:57:25 --> 1:57:26
Sorry, I didn't even realise I have my hand up.

2465
1:57:26 --> 1:57:30
But anyway, I just wanted to say that,

2466
1:57:31 --> 1:57:33
I think it's amazing that

2467
1:57:36 --> 1:57:39
what this group has achieved to date.

2468
1:57:40 --> 1:57:45
I'm putting together a website

2469
1:57:45 --> 1:57:47
which maybe people want to get involved with

2470
1:57:47 --> 1:57:49
called covidconversations.com.

2471
1:57:50 --> 1:57:54
And I want to basically bring to people's attention

2472
1:57:54 --> 1:57:58
what journey we've all been through

2473
1:57:58 --> 1:58:00
and why we've been through this journey

2474
1:58:00 --> 1:58:01
and where we're going

2475
1:58:01 --> 1:58:03
and where we hope to get to in the future.

2476
1:58:03 --> 1:58:05
So just a little sort of shout out

2477
1:58:05 --> 1:58:07
in terms of what I'm working on right now.

2478
1:58:07 --> 1:58:10
And if people want to spread the word

2479
1:58:10 --> 1:58:14
about what they're trying to achieve

2480
1:58:14 --> 1:58:15
with confronting all the problems

2481
1:58:18 --> 1:58:21
with the law and all the health issues

2482
1:58:21 --> 1:58:23
around the COVID scandemic,

2483
1:58:24 --> 1:58:27
I'm quite a useful asset for people here in Europe

2484
1:58:27 --> 1:58:29
in particular, in France

2485
1:58:29 --> 1:58:33
and getting to heads of various people in the media here.

2486
1:58:33 --> 1:58:34
We have good networks here.

2487
1:58:34 --> 1:58:39
So please contact me and share whatever information you've got.

2488
1:58:39 --> 1:58:39
And that's what I'm going to say.

2489
1:58:39 --> 1:58:43
Alex, you're a British citizen, yes?

2490
1:58:43 --> 1:58:45
I'm a British citizen living in France.

2491
1:58:45 --> 1:58:46
And you live in France, you're in France.

2492
1:58:46 --> 1:58:47
Correct, yeah.

2493
1:58:47 --> 1:58:50
And I work with an organisation,

2494
1:58:50 --> 1:58:54
I have direct links to an organisation called Bonfant, S-E-N-S.

2495
1:58:56 --> 1:58:59
And I share a lot of information with them.

2496
1:58:59 --> 1:59:01
They basically put together a lot of information

2497
1:59:01 --> 1:59:05
for prosecuting various legal cases

2498
1:59:06 --> 1:59:08
against various governments

2499
1:59:08 --> 1:59:11
and medical institutions, et cetera, et cetera.

2500
1:59:11 --> 1:59:13
So I'm a resource in terms of information,

2501
1:59:13 --> 1:59:17
but I'm going to be putting out my sort of website

2502
1:59:17 --> 1:59:18
in the next two to three weeks

2503
1:59:18 --> 1:59:19
in terms of COVID conversations,

2504
1:59:20 --> 1:59:22
which is going to be more to capture

2505
1:59:22 --> 1:59:25
the historical relevance of the journey we've all been on

2506
1:59:25 --> 1:59:27
and how we're going to get from A to B.

2507
1:59:27 --> 1:59:29
Because a lot of the stuff that we share here

2508
1:59:29 --> 1:59:31
doesn't get out into what I call

2509
1:59:31 --> 1:59:33
German, French, Spanish, or Portuguese.

2510
1:59:33 --> 1:59:36
So that's where I'm coming from in terms of trying to edit

2511
1:59:36 --> 1:59:39
or cherry pick some of the low-hanging fruit

2512
1:59:39 --> 1:59:41
of what we're all discussing.

2513
1:59:41 --> 1:59:42
So that's what I'm going to speak about.

2514
1:59:42 --> 1:59:47
Your website, are you intending to catalogue the information

2515
1:59:47 --> 1:59:51
like a relentless librarian?

2516
1:59:51 --> 1:59:52
Correct.

2517
1:59:52 --> 1:59:54
I want to basically even cherry pick

2518
1:59:54 --> 1:59:57
some of the conversations of the people we've had on here

2519
1:59:57 --> 2:00:01
in days gone past, edit out some of the video snippets,

2520
2:00:01 --> 2:00:05
put it together in what I call more like Twitter,

2521
2:00:07 --> 2:00:09
sound bites so that people, and actually,

2522
2:00:10 --> 2:00:12
because my team here can actually translate this

2523
2:00:12 --> 2:00:15
into German, French, Spanish, and Italian.

2524
2:00:15 --> 2:00:17
And we can actually expedite

2525
2:00:18 --> 2:00:20
the messages that we want to get across to people.

2526
2:00:20 --> 2:00:22
Generally speaking, people only have 30 seconds

2527
2:00:22 --> 2:00:24
to read a headline before they've moved

2528
2:00:24 --> 2:00:25
on to the next subject.

2529
2:00:25 --> 2:00:29
So that's where I'm honing my spear.

2530
2:00:29 --> 2:00:32
And so I'm just throwing down the gauntlet to everyone here

2531
2:00:32 --> 2:00:35
and saying, if you want a resource here

2532
2:00:35 --> 2:00:37
that can help spread the word here in Europe,

2533
2:00:38 --> 2:00:40
please knock at my door and contact me.

2534
2:00:41 --> 2:00:45
Alex, I think there's a real need for people

2535
2:00:45 --> 2:00:48
who have the skills of librarians,

2536
2:00:48 --> 2:00:50
but not necessarily the views.

2537
2:00:50 --> 2:00:55
So we need people like you to act as librarians,

2538
2:00:56 --> 2:01:00
essentially, and catalog and store the information

2539
2:01:00 --> 2:01:03
and maybe form timelines if you have time,

2540
2:01:03 --> 2:01:05
because timelines are-

2541
2:01:05 --> 2:01:07
I think, yeah, I mean, Stephen,

2542
2:01:07 --> 2:01:09
let's take this conversation

2543
2:01:12 --> 2:01:15
of the current topic now, or the conversation now.

2544
2:01:15 --> 2:01:17
I'd like to follow up with you and Charles,

2545
2:01:17 --> 2:01:19
and I'll email you both and just say,

2546
2:01:19 --> 2:01:21
let's try and put this into a format

2547
2:01:21 --> 2:01:23
which is easy to-

2548
2:01:23 --> 2:01:26
and create the chronology of events

2549
2:01:26 --> 2:01:29
that's led up to where we are now and where we're going.

2550
2:01:29 --> 2:01:32
The destination is we have to destroy

2551
2:01:32 --> 2:01:37
this satanic enterprise that is we're fighting against.

2552
2:01:37 --> 2:01:41
And Alex, may I suggest that you search out the information

2553
2:01:41 --> 2:01:42
which has been knocked off the internet,

2554
2:01:42 --> 2:01:45
but is stored on, what is it, way back or something?

2555
2:01:46 --> 2:01:48
Pull that out, because obviously,

2556
2:01:48 --> 2:01:51
that's information that they don't like us to see,

2557
2:01:51 --> 2:01:52
and we need to find it.

2558
2:01:53 --> 2:01:56
It's all there, and we all need to work together.

2559
2:01:56 --> 2:01:58
So yeah, okay, over now.

2560
2:01:58 --> 2:01:59
Thank you, Alex.

2561
2:01:59 --> 2:02:00
All right, John.

2562
2:02:00 --> 2:02:01
Thanks, Alex.

2563
2:02:01 --> 2:02:05
John, John the Bowdwin.

2564
2:02:05 --> 2:02:06
Hello, all.

2565
2:02:06 --> 2:02:08
Dr. Thorpe, are you still there?

2566
2:02:08 --> 2:02:10
Yes, sir, I'm still here.

2567
2:02:10 --> 2:02:11
Okay, excellent.

2568
2:02:11 --> 2:02:12
Good to see you again.

2569
2:02:13 --> 2:02:14
There are two things that you mentioned

2570
2:02:14 --> 2:02:18
that are kind of right up my alley I've been working on.

2571
2:02:18 --> 2:02:22
I just wanted to, well, number one,

2572
2:02:22 --> 2:02:24
I have this, I call it the Vermont Memorandum

2573
2:02:24 --> 2:02:24
I'm gonna come out with,

2574
2:02:24 --> 2:02:28
and that's to put all the politicians on notice.

2575
2:02:28 --> 2:02:30
That's a legal term of art,

2576
2:02:30 --> 2:02:32
meaning that they will have knowledge that

2577
2:02:34 --> 2:02:35
there are,

2578
2:02:35 --> 2:02:37
there are injuries that flow from their actions.

2579
2:02:37 --> 2:02:38
Once they have knowledge,

2580
2:02:38 --> 2:02:41
they can no longer claim mistake or ignorance of fact

2581
2:02:41 --> 2:02:43
as a defense in the future.

2582
2:02:43 --> 2:02:45
So it kind of boxes them in a corner.

2583
2:02:46 --> 2:02:49
And with it, I have death certificates,

2584
2:02:49 --> 2:02:51
various records correlated, plenty of deaths.

2585
2:02:51 --> 2:02:53
I mean, very obvious deaths.

2586
2:02:53 --> 2:02:56
So if you'd like to talk about that,

2587
2:02:56 --> 2:02:57
I'd be happy to talk to you offline about that.

2588
2:02:57 --> 2:03:01
Secondly, as far as tearing the whole system down,

2589
2:03:02 --> 2:03:03
rebuilding it, I mean,

2590
2:03:03 --> 2:03:05
a lot of us agree with you definitely on that.

2591
2:03:06 --> 2:03:09
The way to do it is the question.

2592
2:03:09 --> 2:03:14
I've floated an idea to, I'll just say,

2593
2:03:15 --> 2:03:17
you know a few big names,

2594
2:03:18 --> 2:03:22
and I was told put it together and send it.

2595
2:03:22 --> 2:03:25
I would like for you to review what I'm doing

2596
2:03:25 --> 2:03:27
because it's right up your alley.

2597
2:03:27 --> 2:03:31
It's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

2598
2:03:32 --> 2:03:34
it's international medical ethics.

2599
2:03:34 --> 2:03:38
It's a reaffirmation of Nuremberg code, Hippocratic oath,

2600
2:03:38 --> 2:03:40
the Helsinki declaration,

2601
2:03:40 --> 2:03:44
adding on it a layer with regard to genetics

2602
2:03:44 --> 2:03:46
and electronics and new stuff that we have to deal with

2603
2:03:47 --> 2:03:51
and having a watchers of the watchers.

2604
2:03:51 --> 2:03:56
In other words, citizens watching the FDA and CDC

2605
2:03:56 --> 2:03:59
to ensure that they aren't corrupted by pharma.

2606
2:03:59 --> 2:04:01
And so we just clean them out and start over.

2607
2:04:01 --> 2:04:04
So I think you'll really like the idea.

2608
2:04:05 --> 2:04:07
It's probably, I'm not gonna say the organization

2609
2:04:07 --> 2:04:11
it's gonna go to, but there's a newly formed organization

2610
2:04:11 --> 2:04:14
with a very, very big name that's between the US

2611
2:04:14 --> 2:04:19
and Switzerland and it's international.

2612
2:04:19 --> 2:04:22
So, you know, if you're in, I wanted to tell you now

2613
2:04:22 --> 2:04:24
so that you don't forget about me

2614
2:04:24 --> 2:04:27
and let's talk offline about that, okay?

2615
2:04:27 --> 2:04:29
Love to John.

2616
2:04:29 --> 2:04:30
All right, thank you.

2617
2:04:30 --> 2:04:31
Thanks.

2618
2:04:31 --> 2:04:33
Well done John, good thinking.

2619
2:04:33 --> 2:04:35
All right, everybody, we've got 20 minutes to go.

2620
2:04:35 --> 2:04:37
We finished at the two and a half hour mark on the dot.

2621
2:04:37 --> 2:04:39
Thank you Curtis and Jim for being here

2622
2:04:39 --> 2:04:41
both with your schedules.

2623
2:04:41 --> 2:04:44
We've got Jim Thomas now, former flight,

2624
2:04:44 --> 2:04:45
what are you Jim?

2625
2:04:45 --> 2:04:48
Just remind us your flight surgeon, what were you?

2626
2:04:48 --> 2:04:49
What are you?

2627
2:04:50 --> 2:04:53
Yes, former Navy flight surgeon.

2628
2:04:53 --> 2:04:55
Thank you.

2629
2:04:55 --> 2:04:58
So most importantly, John is a radiologist.

2630
2:04:58 --> 2:05:00
Ha ha, correct.

2631
2:05:00 --> 2:05:01
He sees through things as well.

2632
2:05:01 --> 2:05:03
That's right, we knew the Jim things.

2633
2:05:05 --> 2:05:08
The two Jims, there we go.

2634
2:05:08 --> 2:05:12
Right, so Jim, thanks very much for all you're doing.

2635
2:05:12 --> 2:05:14
Number one, we're talking about this COVID

2636
2:05:14 --> 2:05:17
as if we know it exists or don't know it exists.

2637
2:05:18 --> 2:05:21
We may wanna consider talking about

2638
2:05:21 --> 2:05:24
the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein

2639
2:05:24 --> 2:05:28
because that's exactly what is the mRNA makes our body make.

2640
2:05:28 --> 2:05:33
So consider that as the conversation

2641
2:05:34 --> 2:05:36
because that is theoretically

2642
2:05:36 --> 2:05:39
what's being tested on the PCR or whatever.

2643
2:05:40 --> 2:05:45
Number two, the issue of children

2644
2:05:48 --> 2:05:53
and who is actually in charge of this

2645
2:05:54 --> 2:05:58
the who and who is above the World Health Organization.

2646
2:05:59 --> 2:06:03
Just understand that the Secret Service

2647
2:06:05 --> 2:06:08
is under the Department of the Treasury

2648
2:06:08 --> 2:06:10
and the Secret Service was established

2649
2:06:10 --> 2:06:14
on the 14th of April, 1865,

2650
2:06:14 --> 2:06:16
the same day Lincoln was assassinated

2651
2:06:16 --> 2:06:18
because he was talking about taking us off of,

2652
2:06:20 --> 2:06:21
what do you wanna call it?

2653
2:06:24 --> 2:06:24
The federal.

2654
2:06:26 --> 2:06:31
So the question is a couple of things.

2655
2:06:31 --> 2:06:36
Knowing that that's one of the issues

2656
2:06:36 --> 2:06:40
that it is the people who were, and JFK the same thing,

2657
2:06:40 --> 2:06:44
he was about to take us off of the Federal Reserve System

2658
2:06:44 --> 2:06:47
understanding that our financial system

2659
2:06:47 --> 2:06:48
could have been done on our own

2660
2:06:48 --> 2:06:50
rather than going through the Federal Reserve

2661
2:06:51 --> 2:06:53
World Child Banking System.

2662
2:06:53 --> 2:06:55
And he also was assassinated.

2663
2:07:03 --> 2:07:05
How do you address the bigger issue

2664
2:07:05 --> 2:07:08
that this may be not just the...

2665
2:07:08 --> 2:07:10
You've broken up, so Jim has missed half your question.

2666
2:07:10 --> 2:07:11
Start your question again.

2667
2:07:17 --> 2:07:17
Now.

2668
2:07:17 --> 2:07:19
You know what, does anybody have one?

2669
2:07:19 --> 2:07:21
I'm just gonna try and have to get to a better

2670
2:07:22 --> 2:07:25
place and then I can just get somebody else to answer.

2671
2:07:25 --> 2:07:29
The best thing, Jim, is just try switching your video off

2672
2:07:29 --> 2:07:31
and then you'll have a bit more capacity

2673
2:07:31 --> 2:07:32
and then it will probably work.

2674
2:07:32 --> 2:07:35
So your sound is breaking.

2675
2:07:35 --> 2:07:36
Okay.

2676
2:07:40 --> 2:07:41
Okay.

2677
2:07:41 --> 2:07:45
Yeah, and it's because I'm moving rather than this,

2678
2:07:45 --> 2:07:48
so I'm gonna step away and then you'll be able to hear me.

2679
2:07:48 --> 2:07:53
So, yeah, sorry about that.

2680
2:07:55 --> 2:07:58
The Federal Reserve System,

2681
2:07:58 --> 2:08:02
the Federal Reserve controls the Secret Service

2682
2:08:02 --> 2:08:07
and the Secret Service is,

2683
2:08:07 --> 2:08:08
the purpose of the Secret Service

2684
2:08:08 --> 2:08:10
is not to protect the President,

2685
2:08:11 --> 2:08:16
but to protect the currency and to stop counterfeiting.

2686
2:08:17 --> 2:08:22
So since the Secret Service was started

2687
2:08:22 --> 2:08:25
on the 14th of April, 1865,

2688
2:08:25 --> 2:08:29
the same day Lincoln was assassinated

2689
2:08:29 --> 2:08:33
and also Kennedy was assassinated

2690
2:08:33 --> 2:08:36
because he was going to do quote,

2691
2:08:36 --> 2:08:39
counterfeit currency or currency not done

2692
2:08:39 --> 2:08:43
by the Federal Reserve.

2693
2:08:43 --> 2:08:46
This may be the link, the Federal Reserve may be the issue

2694
2:08:46 --> 2:08:49
of how this corporate structure

2695
2:08:49 --> 2:08:54
or the corporate industrial complex is facilitated

2696
2:09:01 --> 2:09:05
and they may have links to the Department of Defense

2697
2:09:05 --> 2:09:07
because Sasha Ladoeva showed that this,

2698
2:09:07 --> 2:09:10
so the Department of Defense is in on this

2699
2:09:10 --> 2:09:11
and if the Department of Defense

2700
2:09:11 --> 2:09:16
and these people are actually quote, demonic,

2701
2:09:16 --> 2:09:19
then are they hurting our little angels or the babies

2702
2:09:19 --> 2:09:21
that you're so working hard to protect?

2703
2:09:21 --> 2:09:25
And is this actually a demonic war

2704
2:09:25 --> 2:09:30
where they are using these jabs to harm the children

2705
2:09:31 --> 2:09:36
and then remove the restrictions on child abuse

2706
2:09:38 --> 2:09:40
actually focusing demons on the angels?

2707
2:09:41 --> 2:09:42
Thanks.

2708
2:09:43 --> 2:09:46
I mean, in response to your question,

2709
2:09:46 --> 2:09:48
I mean, that may well be the case.

2710
2:09:48 --> 2:09:53
This is a spiritual war, evil against good

2711
2:09:53 --> 2:09:57
and I don't really wanna comment on anything

2712
2:09:57 --> 2:10:01
except what I'm willing to die for right now

2713
2:10:01 --> 2:10:05
to stake my life on and that is that the shots

2714
2:10:05 --> 2:10:07
are killing my patients.

2715
2:10:07 --> 2:10:10
Stop the shots immediately.

2716
2:10:10 --> 2:10:13
I don't wanna argue about who's doing it

2717
2:10:13 --> 2:10:15
or motives of what somebody else is doing

2718
2:10:15 --> 2:10:20
or whether all these other stuff are peripheral.

2719
2:10:20 --> 2:10:21
It's poison.

2720
2:10:21 --> 2:10:25
Stop poisoning the people of the world.

2721
2:10:25 --> 2:10:28
Over 13 billion people have been poisoned.

2722
2:10:28 --> 2:10:30
Over five, I'm sorry,

2723
2:10:30 --> 2:10:34
over 13 billion shots have been administered.

2724
2:10:34 --> 2:10:38
Over 5.7 billion people have been poisoned.

2725
2:10:38 --> 2:10:41
They've killed my patients, women of reproductive age,

2726
2:10:41 --> 2:10:43
pregnant women, pre-borns and newborns,

2727
2:10:43 --> 2:10:47
the most vulnerable population all over the world.

2728
2:10:47 --> 2:10:49
Ban the shots.

2729
2:10:49 --> 2:10:51
I don't care about anything else.

2730
2:10:51 --> 2:10:52
Stop the shots.

2731
2:10:53 --> 2:10:55
Thank you, Jim.

2732
2:10:55 --> 2:10:58
Clarity of mission, thank you, Jim and Jim.

2733
2:10:58 --> 2:10:59
Thank you, Jim.

2734
2:10:59 --> 2:11:00
Okay, final questions.

2735
2:11:00 --> 2:11:03
Stephen, over to you and Curtis,

2736
2:11:03 --> 2:11:05
I don't know where he went.

2737
2:11:05 --> 2:11:06
He did he drop off or did he leave?

2738
2:11:06 --> 2:11:10
But the clarity of messaging, everybody,

2739
2:11:10 --> 2:11:12
what Jim is showing is the importance

2740
2:11:12 --> 2:11:17
of clarity of messaging because less is more.

2741
2:11:18 --> 2:11:22
Less messaging equals more impact.

2742
2:11:22 --> 2:11:24
If you cover a thousand messages

2743
2:11:24 --> 2:11:25
and there's a thousand messages

2744
2:11:25 --> 2:11:29
from the 100 people on this call, 10 messages each,

2745
2:11:29 --> 2:11:32
that's a thousand messages, it achieves little.

2746
2:11:32 --> 2:11:34
People get confused.

2747
2:11:34 --> 2:11:36
Jim's message is very clear.

2748
2:11:37 --> 2:11:39
Stephen, over to you.

2749
2:11:39 --> 2:11:40
Final questions.

2750
2:11:40 --> 2:11:41
Correct, Charles.

2751
2:11:41 --> 2:11:45
And I think that if people think about

2752
2:11:45 --> 2:11:48
what is the main message that they would like to get out

2753
2:11:48 --> 2:11:51
and then stick to that message,

2754
2:11:51 --> 2:11:54
rather than trying to think of a hundred things

2755
2:11:54 --> 2:11:57
which are wrong with the nonsense narrative

2756
2:11:58 --> 2:12:01
and thereby they dilute their own best message.

2757
2:12:02 --> 2:12:04
So a lot of people don't want,

2758
2:12:04 --> 2:12:07
they use the scatter gun approach instead of constant.

2759
2:12:07 --> 2:12:10
So if you look at what the governments

2760
2:12:10 --> 2:12:12
around the world have done, they put out propaganda

2761
2:12:12 --> 2:12:15
and they say, there is simple messaging.

2762
2:12:15 --> 2:12:17
That's how human beings operate.

2763
2:12:17 --> 2:12:19
We need to do the same.

2764
2:12:19 --> 2:12:23
We do not need to prove everything we say.

2765
2:12:23 --> 2:12:28
And we can, it's ethical surely to employ all means possible

2766
2:12:28 --> 2:12:32
including propaganda if the intent is good.

2767
2:12:33 --> 2:12:38
So James, I've been conscious that a few times

2768
2:12:38 --> 2:12:40
you've been kind of pushed aside.

2769
2:12:40 --> 2:12:43
So is there anything that you would like to say

2770
2:12:44 --> 2:12:46
to people watching?

2771
2:12:48 --> 2:12:50
Me, Jim Thorpe?

2772
2:12:50 --> 2:12:51
Yeah, you, yeah.

2773
2:12:51 --> 2:12:53
Oh no, I haven't felt pushed aside.

2774
2:12:53 --> 2:12:54
I'm so honored to be involved

2775
2:12:54 --> 2:12:56
with this incredible platform, thank you.

2776
2:12:56 --> 2:13:01
And I just wanna say that, you know, Dr. Peter McCullough

2777
2:13:02 --> 2:13:07
and myself have made the jab,

2778
2:13:07 --> 2:13:11
the COVID-19 genetic technology shot a black box.

2779
2:13:11 --> 2:13:14
It is contraindicated in pregnancy.

2780
2:13:14 --> 2:13:16
It's category X in pregnancy.

2781
2:13:16 --> 2:13:21
Do not trust any of your hospitals, your care providers

2782
2:13:21 --> 2:13:23
or physicians or nurses.

2783
2:13:23 --> 2:13:26
It's banned worldwide.

2784
2:13:26 --> 2:13:28
It is a worldwide poison.

2785
2:13:28 --> 2:13:30
Don't ever take it.

2786
2:13:30 --> 2:13:31
Thank you.

2787
2:13:31 --> 2:13:36
Sure, so James, but so maybe you want to confine it to that

2788
2:13:36 --> 2:13:40
but you are a doctor and you must have views on, you know

2789
2:13:40 --> 2:13:42
how has this come about?

2790
2:13:42 --> 2:13:45
Doctors have been led so far astray.

2791
2:13:45 --> 2:13:50
I was trying to say earlier that doctors are the foot soldiers

2792
2:13:50 --> 2:13:55
of the evil ones in this world, it seems to me.

2793
2:13:55 --> 2:13:59
And so I think people maybe are including me

2794
2:13:59 --> 2:14:03
are a little bit surprised that doctors have been targeted

2795
2:14:03 --> 2:14:06
to the extent that they have, but it was always inevitable

2796
2:14:06 --> 2:14:07
that they were going to be targeted.

2797
2:14:07 --> 2:14:12
If you think of the power that each individual doctor

2798
2:14:12 --> 2:14:17
has over his patients and so power to do evil.

2799
2:14:17 --> 2:14:22
And so obviously, you know, politicians are lobbied,

2800
2:14:22 --> 2:14:26
doctors are lobbied, politicians are led astray,

2801
2:14:26 --> 2:14:27
doctors are led astray.

2802
2:14:27 --> 2:14:28
We should have realized this.

2803
2:14:28 --> 2:14:30
I should have realized it.

2804
2:14:31 --> 2:14:35
And I didn't realize that it was happening to this extent

2805
2:14:35 --> 2:14:38
but this last three years, it's become very, very clear

2806
2:14:38 --> 2:14:41
that something was terribly, terribly wrong.

2807
2:14:41 --> 2:14:45
I personally think that this system cannot be reformed.

2808
2:14:45 --> 2:14:46
We have to start again.

2809
2:14:46 --> 2:14:49
We have to start over, as you say, in America.

2810
2:14:49 --> 2:14:52
And that was said about the IRS at Congress.

2811
2:14:52 --> 2:14:56
I think that was right about two years ago or maybe three.

2812
2:14:57 --> 2:15:02
And so I think we need to kind of get our message in order,

2813
2:15:03 --> 2:15:06
you know, your message, my message, each of us individually.

2814
2:15:06 --> 2:15:10
And we have to think of ways to use people and not use

2815
2:15:10 --> 2:15:14
but to get people like Curtis, whose job is to transmit ideas

2816
2:15:14 --> 2:15:19
as I understand it, he's very good at talking

2817
2:15:19 --> 2:15:22
and he knows what people are interested in.

2818
2:15:23 --> 2:15:27
So you and I, James, we don't necessarily know

2819
2:15:27 --> 2:15:29
what people are interested in.

2820
2:15:29 --> 2:15:33
We may think we know, but we don't really know

2821
2:15:33 --> 2:15:34
what's going on in people's heads.

2822
2:15:34 --> 2:15:38
I mean, in the last three years, I've been shocked.

2823
2:15:38 --> 2:15:42
I thought that people thought vaguely as I did.

2824
2:15:42 --> 2:15:44
And I think a lot of people think that, you know,

2825
2:15:44 --> 2:15:46
throughout their lives.

2826
2:15:46 --> 2:15:47
And it's come as a real shock to me

2827
2:15:47 --> 2:15:50
that it's not like that at all.

2828
2:15:50 --> 2:15:53
Even in this group, we all think differently.

2829
2:15:53 --> 2:15:55
That's fine, but we didn't even realize,

2830
2:15:55 --> 2:15:57
I didn't even realize, I don't know whether you did.

2831
2:15:59 --> 2:16:03
So I just wonder whether you've got any broad points

2832
2:16:03 --> 2:16:06
that you may have in your mind, which you haven't said so far.

2833
2:16:08 --> 2:16:10
I think I've spoken my piece

2834
2:16:10 --> 2:16:14
and I really appreciate your comment.

2835
2:16:14 --> 2:16:18
Everyone, I guess I would like to,

2836
2:16:18 --> 2:16:19
just I didn't get a chance to,

2837
2:16:19 --> 2:16:24
I hope everybody knows Dr. Kirk Moore and he's my hero.

2838
2:16:27 --> 2:16:29
For those of you, you know, you heard about

2839
2:16:29 --> 2:16:33
the black box warning and the category acts

2840
2:16:33 --> 2:16:35
and pregnancy proclamation.

2841
2:16:35 --> 2:16:38
Well, you might say, well, Thorpe,

2842
2:16:38 --> 2:16:42
where in Hades do you get the authority to do that?

2843
2:16:42 --> 2:16:43
Well, I take the authority to do it

2844
2:16:43 --> 2:16:45
because the people that should be doing it

2845
2:16:45 --> 2:16:48
are incompetent lying cheaters.

2846
2:16:49 --> 2:16:52
So I've also awarded for those

2847
2:16:52 --> 2:16:55
who's just a formal announcement going out globally,

2848
2:16:55 --> 2:16:59
Dr. Kirk Moore has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

2849
2:16:59 --> 2:17:01
for what he's done.

2850
2:17:01 --> 2:17:04
He's also been awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor

2851
2:17:04 --> 2:17:06
for what he's done.

2852
2:17:06 --> 2:17:09
And he's also been awarded,

2853
2:17:09 --> 2:17:13
he's being officially knighted by the UK,

2854
2:17:13 --> 2:17:14
by whose authority?

2855
2:17:14 --> 2:17:15
By mine.

2856
2:17:15 --> 2:17:17
And he's also been awarded the Silver Star.

2857
2:17:18 --> 2:17:19
So he gets awarded-

2858
2:17:19 --> 2:17:21
Sorry, who's that, James?

2859
2:17:21 --> 2:17:23
The Silver Star.

2860
2:17:23 --> 2:17:25
Yes, but who is this you're talking about?

2861
2:17:25 --> 2:17:27
This is Dr. Kirk Moore, who is on the-

2862
2:17:27 --> 2:17:28
Who's on this call.

2863
2:17:28 --> 2:17:29
Who's on this call.

2864
2:17:29 --> 2:17:29
Oh, right, yes.

2865
2:17:29 --> 2:17:31
Thorpe Moore is being prosecuted

2866
2:17:31 --> 2:17:35
because he did the job of saving lives.

2867
2:17:35 --> 2:17:37
And let's be clear, this man is a hero.

2868
2:17:37 --> 2:17:41
He put his life and his entire career

2869
2:17:41 --> 2:17:43
for saving his patients.

2870
2:17:43 --> 2:17:46
Those patients that wanted to not have the shot

2871
2:17:46 --> 2:17:49
for their children, he wasted the vaccine

2872
2:17:49 --> 2:17:50
and gave them saline.

2873
2:17:50 --> 2:17:52
He's a hero, he's a bloody hero,

2874
2:17:52 --> 2:17:54
and he should be acknowledged as such.

2875
2:17:54 --> 2:17:58
And he's being prosecuted, fined, his career destroyed,

2876
2:17:58 --> 2:17:59
and maybe put in jail.

2877
2:17:59 --> 2:18:03
So he is a hero, and he is the hero

2878
2:18:03 --> 2:18:07
like Dietrich Bonhoeffer in World War II.

2879
2:18:07 --> 2:18:09
Sure.

2880
2:18:09 --> 2:18:11
And so James, do you have an idea

2881
2:18:11 --> 2:18:14
of how we're going to bring the people responsible

2882
2:18:14 --> 2:18:16
for what's happened in the last three years,

2883
2:18:16 --> 2:18:21
the massive evil, the huge crimes?

2884
2:18:21 --> 2:18:23
Do you have an idea how we're going to bring

2885
2:18:23 --> 2:18:24
these people to account?

2886
2:18:24 --> 2:18:27
And also how are we going to fully understand

2887
2:18:27 --> 2:18:28
what has gone on?

2888
2:18:28 --> 2:18:30
Because if we don't understand what has gone on,

2889
2:18:30 --> 2:18:33
we're never going to hold them properly to account

2890
2:18:33 --> 2:18:37
because we risk holding them to account

2891
2:18:37 --> 2:18:38
for the wrong things.

2892
2:18:39 --> 2:18:42
So it's a bit much to ask you,

2893
2:18:42 --> 2:18:45
but I just wonder if you've got any ideas.

2894
2:18:45 --> 2:18:46
No, it's already solved.

2895
2:18:46 --> 2:18:48
That's a too big a question.

2896
2:18:48 --> 2:18:49
We're going to let Jim go.

2897
2:18:49 --> 2:18:50
Everyone's going to go.

2898
2:18:50 --> 2:18:53
Okay, well, how do we expose the criminality then?

2899
2:18:53 --> 2:18:56
How do we get these people,

2900
2:18:56 --> 2:18:58
how do we differentiate between those people

2901
2:18:58 --> 2:19:01
who didn't know what was going on

2902
2:19:01 --> 2:19:03
and were misled by the system,

2903
2:19:03 --> 2:19:06
and those who are actually culpable

2904
2:19:06 --> 2:19:10
and you could argue that all the people who complied

2905
2:19:10 --> 2:19:13
were culpable because they kept the thing going.

2906
2:19:13 --> 2:19:16
But how do we sort out who is complicit

2907
2:19:16 --> 2:19:18
and who is responsible?

2908
2:19:18 --> 2:19:19
Because if we can't do that,

2909
2:19:19 --> 2:19:21
we're not going to be able to hold people to account

2910
2:19:21 --> 2:19:22
unless we just-

2911
2:19:22 --> 2:19:26
I think the powers that be have clearly elucidated

2912
2:19:26 --> 2:19:28
in many published books,

2913
2:19:28 --> 2:19:31
exactly for certain who's accountable.

2914
2:19:31 --> 2:19:33
And then there's a lot of people in the gray area

2915
2:19:33 --> 2:19:38
that you and I probably are not in a position

2916
2:19:38 --> 2:19:40
to make that decision,

2917
2:19:40 --> 2:19:44
but a court of law or a tribunal, military tribunal

2918
2:19:44 --> 2:19:48
or Nuremberg court should, absolutely should.

2919
2:19:48 --> 2:19:48
Exactly.

2920
2:19:49 --> 2:19:52
All right, we're off.

2921
2:19:52 --> 2:19:53
Thank you, Jim.

2922
2:19:53 --> 2:19:54
Thank you, Jim.

2923
2:19:54 --> 2:19:54
Thank you, Curtis.

2924
2:19:54 --> 2:19:55
Is there any absent here?

2925
2:19:55 --> 2:19:57
Thank you very much for having me.

2926
2:19:57 --> 2:19:59
Thank you for your time, Jim.

2927
2:19:59 --> 2:20:00
Thank you, Uwe Kirk.

2928
2:20:00 --> 2:20:01
Thank you.

2929
2:20:01 --> 2:20:03
Thank you for all the questions, everybody.

2930
2:20:03 --> 2:20:05
The Telegram chat is in the link

2931
2:20:05 --> 2:20:07
for those who have the video.

2932
2:20:07 --> 2:20:09
We're back on Tuesday afternoon,

2933
2:20:09 --> 2:20:12
Tuesday evening, Wednesday morning, Australian time.

2934
2:20:12 --> 2:20:14
Thank you all for being here.

2935
2:20:14 --> 2:20:19
Save the chat and fight your fight.

2936
2:20:19 --> 2:20:24
Be clear on your messaging and stay strong.

2937
2:20:24 --> 2:20:26
As that wonderful quote says,

2938
2:20:26 --> 2:20:31
I'd rather die standing than to kneel living.

2939
2:20:31 --> 2:20:34
So Jim has made that statement.

2940
2:20:34 --> 2:20:35
Kirk Moore is doing that.

2941
2:20:35 --> 2:20:37
Stephen, you're doing that.

2942
2:20:37 --> 2:20:37
I'm doing that.

2943
2:20:37 --> 2:20:39
All of us here are doing that.

2944
2:20:39 --> 2:20:40
Albert, you're doing that.

2945
2:20:40 --> 2:20:41
Shasta's doing it.

2946
2:20:41 --> 2:20:43
We have to keep doing it, everybody.

2947
2:20:43 --> 2:20:45
We're three years into a six-year war,

2948
2:20:45 --> 2:20:47
so there's no chance to get tired.

2949
2:20:47 --> 2:20:50
All right, thanks for being here.

2950
2:20:50 --> 2:20:52
Wonderful night, wonderful day,

2951
2:20:52 --> 2:20:53
and we'll see you on Tuesday.

2952
2:20:53 --> 2:20:54
Bye.

2953
2:20:54 --> 2:20:55
Thanks, Stephen.

2954
2:20:55 --> 2:20:56
Bye, everybody.

2955
2:20:56 --> 2:20:57
Bye, John.

2956
2:20:57 --> 2:20:57
Thank you.

2957
2:20:57 --> 2:20:58
Thank you, James.