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two words which people understand these days. So I think it's particularly

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effective to lawyers create the matrix and other lawyers get people out of the

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matrix. It says it very succinctly.

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That's true. You need lawyers to get out of the matrix. That's true.

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Yeah. You need lawyers to buy a house or anything.

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Yeah. All right. So everybody,

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welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International.

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Welcome to today's discussion. Before I introduce Dr. Kirk Moore to you from Utah,

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I want to give you a quick update on what's happening with Reiner Fulmick,

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a true freedom warrior.

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And this information comes from the Inner Circle that at the last court hearing

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in Germany on the 20th of June, I'm reading this so that all of you are aware

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of what's happening of the corruption that's being imposed on Reiner Fulmick,

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who's currently in jail. At the last court hearing on the 20th of June,

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the court wanted to clear the way for its verdict to be read.

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But Reiner Fulmick's attorneys were not present. Katja Wurmer is unwell and

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Christoph Miserere, barrister, was not there for reasons unknown.

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Then the court recessed and came back with the idea of appointing a required attorney

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to Reiner because a court can't deliver its verdict without a party's lawyer present.

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Reiner rejected this saying he only trusts his own attorneys. Then the court came back

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with the idea of appointing Tobias Wiesenborn, who was a witness on behalf of Reiner.

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Reiner rejected that too, saying that Wiesenborn was not privy to the material

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his attorneys had and was therefore not appropriate. Still, the court tried to

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contact this person and only when they ascertained that Wiesenborn was not in

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the vicinity and therefore not available did they abandon their plan. So they called for a

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postponement until July 10, which is the next court date. Evidently, Christoph Miserere has

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a strategy. He'd already submitted a motion to have the lead judge removed from the trial because

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of obvious bias against Reiner. Now Christoph has three more weeks to work his networks,

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to shine light on this biased, corrupt court. The reporting on the trial by observers was that

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there was tension throughout the session during the court and there was a massive police presence.

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So I wanted people to know that. I wanted it to be on the recording

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so that people around the world can understand the injustice that's being imposed.

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To a man, a German US lawyer who is fighting for freedom, truth, justice, ethics and the proper

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application of law. And that's why Stephen Frost started this group over three years ago. Stephen

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Frost has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower and

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activist. His medical specialty is radiology. I'm Charles Covess, the moderator of this group.

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I'm Australasia's passion provocateur. I've been a lawyer and I've been a professional speaker for

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31 years. I practiced law for 20 years before changing career 31 years ago. And over the last

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13 years, I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies for vaccine damage.

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I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company. We comprise lots of professions here and we're

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from all around the world. Many of us thought that vaccines were okay. Now, many of us proudly say,

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yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers. I count myself one of those. I am passionately anti-vax.

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And I say that I've interviewed numerous medical experts and every one of them confirms there has

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not been one proper safety and efficacy test on any vaccine ever. If any of you know of any,

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please put them in the chat. They do not exist. If this is your first time here, welcome and feel

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free to introduce yourself in the chat and where you're from. If you publish a news, there are a

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podcast, put the details or you've written a book like Jerome Corsi, put the details into the chat

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and most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III and that the medical science

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battle is only one of 12 battlefields of this latest world war. Today, Kirk is going to be

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talking to us about the legal battlefield. Most of us understand the development of science and

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the science is never settled. This meeting runs for two and a half hours after which for those

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with the time Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting, Tom puts the links into the chat as

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you're able to join. We'll listen to our guest presenter, Kirk Moore, Dr Kirk Moore for as long

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as Kirk wishes to speak and then we have Q&A. Stephen Frost, by long established tradition,

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asks the first questions for 15 minutes. This is a free speech environment.

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Free speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human freedoms. If you're offended

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by anything, be offended. We're lovingly not interested. We reject the offence industry that

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requires nobody to say anything that may offend another and if you play the offence game, you're

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playing into the woke agenda which we here reject. We come with an attitude, a perspective of love,

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not fear. Fear is the opposite of love. Fear squashes you. Love on the other hand expands you.

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Fear robs you of your freedoms. These twice weekly meetings are not just talk-fest. An

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extraordinary range of actions and initiatives have been generated from linkages made by attendees

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in these meetings. If you have a solution or a product or links or resources that will help,

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put the details into the chat. For example, last week during Jason Porter's discussion,

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there was a reference to a book by William T Still called The New World Order published in 1990.

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I'm halfway through that book. It is most instructive if you want to know who they are.

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The meeting is recorded and is uploaded onto the Rumble channel. All the meetings are up

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on the Rumble channel. And now welcome to our guest presenter, Dr Kirk Moore. We thank you so

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much for sharing your wisdom and your insights with us and I wish to give you some background

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about Kirk for the purposes of the recording. He's a 59-year-old Utah physician now facing

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15 years in prison for apparently simply doing what his patients asked, providing vaccine cards

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to individuals who chose not to be vaccinated against COVID-19. He asks, isn't that what

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doctors should be doing? The Hippocratic Oath requires that doctors do no harm.

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As more medical studies and deeper dives into the COVID vaccines are being completed,

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a clearer picture is emerging that the COVID vaccines were experimental

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and too often increased unnecessary medical risks in return for dubious protections.

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The government's failure to conduct thorough testing on COVID vaccines and the near complete

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censorship of opposing views limited the ability of anyone to fully exercise informed consent. This

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is a violation of basic ethics by denying individuals the opportunity to make decisions

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about their health based on complete information regarding potential risks and benefits. Dr Kirk

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Moore's actions were upholding the ethical doctrines of informed consent and do no harm to

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anyone who felt that they did not have all the information or wanted more information or simply

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did not trust the information being provided by the quote experts end quote. And they chose to

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not be forced to receive one. Seeking to imprison a single father for doing nothing more than what

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his patients asked for and wanted is simply wrong. Kirk Moore did not charge his patients for this

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exemption. The government in its case fakes concern over the destruction of actual vaccines.

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It's almost laughable considering that Switzerland has destroyed over 10 million doses of the

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vaccines and even Canada has destroyed over 14 million doses. Countries all around the world are

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destroying the vaccine as more and more people now have access to previously censored information as

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well as new studies empowering full informed consent. And once informed it's clear that people

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simply do not want to take a risky vaccine. Furthermore, Dr Kirk Moore's approach exemplifies

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the principles of beneficence and non-maleficence. Fundamental pillars of medical ethics. Beneficence

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emphasizes the healthcare providers obligation to act in the best interest of the patient.

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Kirk Moore's provision of vaccine cards without financial burden underscores Kirk's desire to

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facilitate patient autonomy and enable them to engage in society while doing no harm.

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The government prosecution for the government on April 24th this year has now filed a motion

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in limine to preclude a necessity defence. Can you believe that? Kirk will tell us about that.

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And the argument is that it wasn't necessary and the government is trying to say no there's nothing

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to say here just let's throw the key away. This is a man who's standing up for the right thing to do.

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We are delighted to have him with us and we are delighted Stephen that you organised Kirk to be

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with us. So Kirk we are in your hands as they say in the classics.

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Hi Charles, Stephen and everybody here thanks for being here. My story I guess I'll just kind of go

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through the story we had a brief discussion I think Charles you and I before we started.

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I essentially COVID started I was pretty much like every other doctor I think that was out there not

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every other one but a lot of us scared worried didn't know what was going on.

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I didn't have the time to research it and just kind of trusted a lot of everything that we were

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being told. I remember the dates exactly on March 17th which is St. Patty's day for us.

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I went home from work after having done surgery it was a Tuesday. I heard some more reports about

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things as you mentioned in that bio in that introduction I'm a single dad raising two kids

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in 2024 my kids were 12 and 16. I was just didn't want to expose my kids to anything didn't know

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what was going on hadn't had the time to research it. I'm not a primary care doc I'm a plastic

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surgeon so I do cosmetics so it's now family practice and internal medicine type of

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discussions were far outside of my boundaries but on March 17th I just called up my office manager

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and said hey let's close the office have one person in the office just to answer phones we'll

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be there for our patients but until this we figure out more about what's going on.

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I don't want to expose anybody to any undue germs. Within the state of Utah was also

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entertaining there had already been some lockdowns in some of the states and some

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areas across the country I think Italy was quote unquote burning and so there was just all this

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news and all this horror and stories and people keeling over in China and so I just didn't know

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what to believe but within a week I think the state of Utah the following Monday which would

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have made it the 23rd they then called for a shutdown of non-essential businesses again I

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don't know what the definition of a non-essential business is but they defined them and mine was

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one of them but by that time I had had enough time to sit here at my same laptop that I'm talking

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everybody else on and research and learn and listen to people that were not fully censored

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yet and kind of came to the conclusion essentially that this was just nothing but just a fake

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fear-mongering tactic and you know scare technique to get everybody to do what the

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government wanted to do and so from that point forward I think within that same week

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I started writing prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine for all my patients and friends and family people

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that wanted them there's a I mean for the people from the United States we have a you know

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on the corner of happy and healthy we always have a Walgreens pharmacy and there's a local

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Walgreens that I used to write all my prescriptions for not a lot of them but a lot of them for my

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patients and I just completely wiped them out of all the hydroxychloroquine that they had and they

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could get for like I said friends family patients anybody and just that kind of started me down this

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you know this routine I started learning more reading more understanding more and realizing

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that it was just nothing but just a fake scare tactic to get all of us under their thumb

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I don't remember the exact date or time but at some point people started talking about having a

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vaccine and you know I just I had a vaccine injury I got shingles from a hepatitis b vaccine

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back in 1989 and so I've had this hesitation to vaccines my kids are not vaccinated and back in the

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mid-2000s when our kids were born it wasn't that big a deal you could just go in there tell your

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pediatrician hey I really just want to hold off on vaccines right now and they were all accommodating

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nothing you know didn't make any waves and boy how's that changed and so when all of this was

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going on I just kept treating people people calling me out of the woodwork and I was treating people

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you know the McCullough protocol came out the FLCCC published their protocols which were you know

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modified pretty regularly and I just I started taking care of patients and you know non-surgical

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patients I just started taking care of everybody that came to me they were calling me out of the

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woodwork their friends and family were calling me nobody else would treat them they were scared

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to go to the hospital they didn't want treatment you know remdesivir you know run death is near

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is on the you know is is out there and people hearing all these horror stories and so I you

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know it was just it was a big eye-opening experience for me and I became a primary care

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doc I was treating people I was doing house calls and showing up with IV fluids and steroids and

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hydroxychloroquine ivermectin and I was doing all of this every single bit of it was for free

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I had one patient pay me just for the supplies because she refused to make me pay for you know

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the steroids and ivermectin prescriptions and all of that I was doing high dose vitamin c again I

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was just reading about all that stuff you know I had palmaric studies on vitamin c I didn't know

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anything about vitamin c I didn't know anything about ICU treatments and the book that he'd written

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about it and you know it's all new to me and acid hill cysteine vitamin d you know all of the

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over-the-counter medications gladiators elenco was a huge influence on me and so I just kind of kept

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following all this then the rumors come out I don't know end of that year you know I don't know

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Octoberish that the vaccine was on the you know this operation work speed had been successful and

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they had a new vaccine available for a virus that has been endemic in our

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in humanity since beginning of time and you know all of a sudden they've solved it and they've

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been able to do this with some sort of new you know new technology anyway and it's just it was

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crazy to me to think that that's what was going on and then you know one thing after another

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December it gets approved it starts getting you know starts being treated and then you start

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hearing little bits and pieces of people that get injured there's a lady right near me who runs an

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organization called react 19.org Brianne Dressen and she's severely vaccine injured from an

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AstraZeneca trial I got to know her there's some other docs that I know here locally that have

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actually been vaccine injured themselves and just me I as as plastic surgeons we tend to kind of be

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in our own little world and we don't have a lot of insular activity with other physicians so we

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don't have a lot of contact with them but just me knowing a few of them that had been vaccine injured

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meant a lot to me because that just told me that it was just the tip of the iceberg

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so we start hearing about vaccines and how they're going to solve the whole problem

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again nobody's allowed to say anything everybody's getting censored people getting taken offline you

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go back to the July the boy I can't remember her name but on the Supreme Court steps all those

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docs that just got shut down and it just it just it was just continuing and Charles and everybody

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here as we know this just because it was an eye-opening experience for at least for me

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I realized that I knew that there was corruption in our government I knew that there we had been

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lied to I knew that there were things going on everybody had heard the rumors about JFK's

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assassination and you know were we involved were we not you know everybody hears and you start

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seeing about you know hearing things about the you know just just things that happened in our history

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and you realize that you know it how much of this was really true and how much wasn't did we really

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land on the moon still don't know the answer to that you know what's the real story behind Watergate

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we don't know the story behind that we actually we do know the story behind that and it's being

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hidden from us and it's not in the history books you know the the victor to the victor go to spoils

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and the victors are able to write the history books so what really happened in World War I what

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really happened in World War II what was the 1918 Spanish flu all about it just opens up all of

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these you know for lack of a better term rabbit holes and you end up going down them and you end

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up kind of reading about them and reading things that were actually in the public realm at the time

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people writing books and articles and and you realize that man there's just a lot of stuff out

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there that's just not that doesn't jive with what with what you're reading now and what you're

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hearing I mean I remember medical school being taught that by the way I was in the army and I

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thought those viruses don't you know you don't get an you know you don't get antibodies built to

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viruses they only get antibodies to bacteria well that was 1990s early 90s late 80s now look at

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what it is now it's like in order to find out whether you've been exposed we have to check your

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antibodies what you know I mean it's just kind of like it's whatever kind of fits the narrative

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and it's really caused me to kind of open up and be a lot more open-minded

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about what I'm being told.

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It's caused me to kind of really look at things.

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where anything that I get told,

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out of rote, I just don't believe it

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until I can kind of confirm it myself.

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vaccines are now being, they're mandated,

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while they're being, they're mandatory businesses,

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the government is kind of turfing the job to the businesses

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to make them mandate it so that it doesn't look like

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our government is kind of doing it,

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similar to what we talked about again earlier,

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none of them are safe,

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none of them have ever been tested against a placebo,

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none of them have ever had any kind of safety or efficacy

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evaluation, true safety or efficacy evaluation.

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So I signed up, we're in a pandemic, right?

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And everybody needs a vaccine

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and we don't have enough places to sign up

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for people to get vaccines.

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And so I signed up to be a vaccine clinic

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and got approved by the state of Utah to provide them

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and started seeing all my patients and their friends

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and family coming in.

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as much as we could.

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We don't know what's in it.

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We didn't know what was in it.

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It still comes with a blank 24 by 36 piece of paper

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that's all folded up that says intentionally left blank

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on the front and back.

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We don't know what the product is.

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We don't know what's in it.

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We have no long-term studies.

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Obviously this mRNA jab was developed in nine months.

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And prior to that, I mean, there's a lot to this story.

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I mean, all of this stuff back in early 21 or late 20,

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early 21, there were studies that were out there

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that you could find, you can't find them anymore online

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that talked about the use of mRNA in animals

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and none of the animals ever survived.

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or they died from the treatment itself,

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ferrets, rats, chimpanzees, everybody.

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So, I was certainly not sold on the mRNA technology

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and I certainly wasn't sold on the spike protein

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or whatever it is that they claim that is in there.

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And again, this is, we don't know what's in it.

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So it's kind of hard to evaluate the reality of this.

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Over the course of 2020 and into early 2021,

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I probably treated 800 patients for COVID.

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And then subsequent to that,

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I ordered almost 2000 vaccines from the state of Utah

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and provided full informed consent

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to all my patients regarding that.

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None of my patients died.

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None of them were charged the dime.

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We took no money.

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I asked people to donate to a nonprofit organization

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of whatever they saw fit.

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We recommended $50, but it certainly was no demand

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and we certainly didn't benefit from it.

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It wasn't anything that I was related to

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other than I went to a few other meetings.

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And now we're, I mean, I was indicted

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along with three other co-conspirators,

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two of my employees and one of them was a neighbor

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back in January of 23, so 18 months ago.

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And we have had a number of extensions

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and continuances in the trial.

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And now we're scheduled for trial on January 15th of 2025.

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We had a motion that you mentioned in that Bible

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that bio again, which is a motion in limine

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which means outside of the purview of the jury,

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which is pretty obvious

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because it's done prior to even jury selection.

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But the government is trying to preclude a necessity defense.

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A necessity defense is typically a defense

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where I believed that there was an actual

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specific threat that required immediate action,

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that I had no significant realistic alternative.

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The harm that was potentially caused by my criminal act

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could not have been greater than the harm

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that was already being caused.

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And then I could not have been somebody

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that actually contributed to either the pandemic

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or the vaccine or in any way kind of benefiting from it

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or contributed to kind of making that be a problem

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so that then I can solve the problem.

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That's typically what our government does, right?

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The Hegelian dialectic where it's problem solution

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or problem reaction solution.

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So that's where we are.

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We filed a reply and we have an opposition,

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another response from them,

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but no hearing or sorry, no ruling from the judge as of yet.

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And I believe there's gonna be a motion here

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to request an oral argument session,

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but I don't know if that's been finalized yet or not.

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So that's kind of my story in a nutshell.

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I am very open to answering any questions

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and I'm not trying to be obtuse in anything

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in terms of my answers,

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but from a legal perspective, all of this is still alleged.

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So I think people can read between the lines

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in terms of what happened in my office.

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Thank you, Kirk, for sharing that story.

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There are plenty of hands up before Steven goes first,

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as you know, before we get to Steven

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to give you a moment to collect his thoughts.

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What are your thoughts on why

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a more significant number of doctors,

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and I'm thinking of the 80-20 rule, the Pareto principle.

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20% of people do extraordinary things.

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Why do you think that only a tiny proportion

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of American and Australian doctors have spoken up?

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The answers that we've heard in these meetings, of course,

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most doctors say, I gave the jab

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because I have a mortgage to pay.

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But with all the evidence that has come out,

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I would have thought 20% of US doctors

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would have spoken up and acted like you, Kirk.

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What's your thinking on that?

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You know, I ask myself that question,

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that question gets asked of me almost every single day.

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I have to believe that the older docs

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that are in their late 50s, 60s, 70s

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probably are a little bit more open to being skeptical.

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I think the education that we had

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was probably a little bit more foundational

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and we were taught to have more discernment

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and have a little bit more critical thinking.

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I think the younger the docs are,

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the more they're taught based upon algorithm methods

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and they're more or less just kind of technicians

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and they're taught to just look at a problem

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and treat it by based upon what's in front of them,

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based upon what's on a sheet that's there already.

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Again, my opinion, I have no data

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to support that necessarily, but I just,

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I struggle with that, Charles, I really do.

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I don't think, I'm not the smartest guy out there.

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I went to medical school, I got my MD degree,

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I did all the things that a lot of other friends

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and family of mine have done,

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but for people to just brush this off,

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I have a mortgage to pay, I got bills to pay,

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I got my kids' education to kind of contribute to

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and on the other end of the spectrum,

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I don't care whether they're dying

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or I'm hurting them or I'm maiming them,

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I don't get it.

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I mentioned this earlier where in the mid 2000s

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when my daughter was born and we went in and said,

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hey, we wanna hold off on vaccines,

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the pediatricians, most of them, all of them,

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we never got kicked out of an office saying,

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hey, get out of here, I'm not gonna treat you.

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I think that there's just dogma and it's just taken foot.

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Or it's just kind of now determined

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what their practices are.

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Insurance companies give people bonuses,

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pediatricians bonuses based upon the percentage

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of their kids that are vaccinated.

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So there's a financial incentive

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and it might be something that these docs

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really just don't think that much about

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and they've been taught and told.

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And we had maybe 15 minutes of vaccine education

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back in the late 80s, early 90s.

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And they're safe and effective, here you are.

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But we had seven of them.

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Kirk, I've checked that in Australia

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with two recent graduates from medical school

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and it's still the same in Australia

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that it's two hours max on vaccines

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in six years of education.

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Well, Kerry Mullis said it in one of his interviews

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where he was trying to apply for an HIV grant

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in the first statement in the grant application said,

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HIV is caused by the HIV virus.

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And so he stopped right then and there and he said,

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well, where's the article and where's the reference

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that says this?

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And that's what started him down this road too.

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And I think that people just need to have that.

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They need to have that,

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rather than just taking things for granted

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of what you're told or what you read or what you've seen

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or what you've heard,

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you have to kind of just look at things

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a little bit more critically and realize that,

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hey, maybe what we were told or what we had

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or what we've been taught or everything,

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really that doesn't apply, let me find out.

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And that's where I went.

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I mean, I've looked at the 1919 Spanish flu.

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Was it really a Spanish flu?

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No, it started in, I'll probably get the name wrong,

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Port Detrick in the United States, I think,

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is where the main,

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and we were also giving a meningitis vaccine at the time

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and we were giving high dose aspirin.

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When we were talking about,

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we give people now what, 325 milligrams of aspirin,

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they were giving 1600 to 2000 milligrams of aspirin.

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And then these people were dying with bloody lungs

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and autopsy showing that.

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So it's, but none of that was published.

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So anyway, we're off the subject,

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but I'm sorry, Charles, I have no idea why.

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I've lost friends.

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I don't talk to any of my classmates from medical school

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or graduated from medical school with 120 other kids,

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our kids, guys, and I don't keep in touch

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with any of them now.

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So it's-

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Well, that's a pretty good answer.

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So Stephen, can you put your camera on please

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and you've got the next 15 minutes.

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Yeah, sorry about that.

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So, yeah.

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So the medical school bit, Kirk, I share the same problem.

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I don't speak to any of the medical,

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not that I won't talk to them,

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but I called them out the last three Christmases,

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successively calling them more and more out.

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And even the people I was very friendly with

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at medical school, they didn't even reply privately.

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Nevermind the group.

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I called them all out in a group.

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I had all the email addresses

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because they were trying to arrange a reunion,

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unluckily for them.

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And so I really, I oscillate between

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listening to the people who said,

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hey, we have to be kind.

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I do agree we, as human beings, need to be kind.

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But the kindness kind of wears a bit thin

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with these doctors.

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You have shown everyone in the world

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what was the right thing to do.

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You were a plastic surgeon.

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You were not a GP.

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And yet you realized that you had to become a GP

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and you acted in the best interest of your patients,

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retaining at all time your autonomy.

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And these doctors, goodness knows what they thought

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their responsibility was in a pandemic,

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but they should never have been doctors, any of them.

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Clearly, in varying degrees.

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So I was looking for someone like you,

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like a Dr. Schindler from Schindler's List,

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to put it in terms of a 20-year-old would understand

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or a 30-year-old.

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And here you are and good.

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It's just, it nearly made me cry when you said

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that you didn't accept any payments.

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So not only were you acting as a GP

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when you were previously a plastic surgeon,

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but you were not taking any payments

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and you were doing exactly what every doctor in the world

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should have been doing

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in the face of this monstrosity of a fraud.

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Charles, can I finish my questions?

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Can you give me 10 minutes of my time back

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after I've had something to eat,

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because I've got something here to eat.

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Didn't quite manage to get my meal before the program.

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Not that that's important,

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but I just want to think carefully

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about what I want to say on this call, Kirk,

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because I think you are very important.

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You've shown all doctors what they damn well

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should have done,

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and all these people whinging about their pay as GPs

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in the UK, they're completely missing the point,

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and it's absolutely outrageous,

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and I've got no mercy for them.

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Well, I do feel that I should be kind,

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but it's really testing me.

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I was shocked about the last four years, really shocked.

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I can hear it in the way you're telling your story.

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You too were shocked in many, many different ways,

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and I can hear my thoughts in your words, and thank you.

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I appreciate that, thank you.

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Thank you for doing the right thing.

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So, Charles, are you there?

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Yep, I'm here.

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Can I have 10 minutes later?

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Yes, absolutely.

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I've only used the proper five minutes.

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Yep, done.

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All right, Daria, then Jerry.

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So, doctor, doctor.

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First doctor, second doctor.

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Go, Daria.

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Retire, doctor.

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Hello, hi.

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Dr. Moore, God bless you.

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I heard about your story when it first started.

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I'm a retired neurosurgeon,

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and I had to retire 10 years ago

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because I had neuropraxia in my hands

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and couldn't operate anymore.

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So I pretty much dodged the whole situation

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that you found yourself in.

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And what I wanted to ask you are two things.

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Number one, do you think that you will return

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to practicing plastic surgery

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maybe in an office setting or something like that?

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In other words, I know just I'm projecting, I suppose,

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but I still miss doing surgery.

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I really do.

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The rest of it, they can have it.

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But that was my one question.

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The second question I had was,

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are you an active member of the American Association

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of Physicians and Surgeons, AAPS,

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because they have legal assistance with Andrew Schlafly.

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So there's been a lot of cases helping doctors

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with licensure issues for years

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and Schampere review and that type of thing.

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So that was the other question I had for you.

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But thank you and God bless you for your courage

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because if a dozen doctors would have done what you did,

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this thing all could have come down four years ago

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and millions of lives would have been saved.

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So thank you for taking those bullets.

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God bless you.

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Well, Daria, so the first,

532
0:38:19 --> 0:38:21
I'm still practicing.

533
0:38:21 --> 0:38:26
It's been a domino effect.

534
0:38:26 --> 0:38:29
I lost my hospital privileges

535
0:38:29 --> 0:38:31
because I told the hospital to shove it

536
0:38:31 --> 0:38:32
when they made me wear a mask.

537
0:38:33 --> 0:38:34
Losing my hospital privileges

538
0:38:34 --> 0:38:36
was the first domino that fell.

539
0:38:37 --> 0:38:39
By losing my hospital privileges,

540
0:38:39 --> 0:38:42
I was no longer able to renew my board certification.

541
0:38:44 --> 0:38:48
And the third thing is I lost my accreditation

542
0:38:48 --> 0:38:50
to my surgical facility

543
0:38:51 --> 0:38:52
because I didn't have hospital privileges

544
0:38:52 --> 0:38:54
and couldn't get board certified.

545
0:38:54 --> 0:38:57
So I still operate.

546
0:38:57 --> 0:38:59
I just operate in my own,

547
0:38:59 --> 0:39:01
I have it on my own surgical suite.

548
0:39:01 --> 0:39:03
It's just not accredited anymore per se

549
0:39:03 --> 0:39:07
from QuadASF or AAAHC,

550
0:39:07 --> 0:39:09
whatever the agency is that you wanna have.

551
0:39:10 --> 0:39:13
And so it's been a trial.

552
0:39:13 --> 0:39:17
I miss the surgery side of it.

553
0:39:17 --> 0:39:19
Like I said, I'm still operating.

554
0:39:19 --> 0:39:21
It's been a huge,

555
0:39:21 --> 0:39:24
I've lost at least 50%, if not more of my income

556
0:39:25 --> 0:39:30
from not necessarily the bad press, I don't think,

557
0:39:30 --> 0:39:34
as much as it's been just a loss of my ability

558
0:39:34 --> 0:39:38
to kind of focus and to kind of continue to do the things

559
0:39:38 --> 0:39:41
that I used to do with the energy and vigor

560
0:39:41 --> 0:39:43
that I had when I was doing it.

561
0:39:43 --> 0:39:44
Again, I'm not old, I'm 59.

562
0:39:44 --> 0:39:46
I really enjoy doing it.

563
0:39:46 --> 0:39:50
I have a unique approach to breast augmentations

564
0:39:50 --> 0:39:53
and tummy tucks and everything else

565
0:39:53 --> 0:39:54
in terms of what I do.

566
0:39:54 --> 0:39:56
And I think I provide a very nice service

567
0:39:56 --> 0:39:59
and very safe environment to do that.

568
0:40:00 --> 0:40:03
But it's been a struggle.

569
0:40:03 --> 0:40:04
And I'm sorry, Daria,

570
0:40:04 --> 0:40:08
what was your first question that you asked?

571
0:40:10 --> 0:40:11
Hold on, yeah.

572
0:40:11 --> 0:40:13
So the other part of the question was,

573
0:40:14 --> 0:40:16
are you a member of the...

574
0:40:17 --> 0:40:20
Associated with American Physicians and Surgeons,

575
0:40:20 --> 0:40:21
the AAPS?

576
0:40:23 --> 0:40:26
I did join them back in 2020.

577
0:40:26 --> 0:40:29
I'm not sure that my membership,

578
0:40:29 --> 0:40:30
again, I've had to kind of pare down

579
0:40:30 --> 0:40:34
on my membership dues on most anything.

580
0:40:34 --> 0:40:36
I don't have cable TV anymore.

581
0:40:38 --> 0:40:41
I've just had to significantly cut all my expenses.

582
0:40:41 --> 0:40:44
I'm not trying to kind of like play a tiny little violin

583
0:40:44 --> 0:40:45
for everybody in here,

584
0:40:46 --> 0:40:50
and so if I didn't set it up for auto renew,

585
0:40:50 --> 0:40:53
then I may not be a current member,

586
0:40:53 --> 0:40:55
but I appreciate you reminding me of that.

587
0:40:55 --> 0:40:57
I should look into that and just see where I'm at,

588
0:40:57 --> 0:40:59
because I have heard of,

589
0:40:59 --> 0:41:01
it's Andrew Shafley, right?

590
0:41:03 --> 0:41:05
Yeah, Andrew Shafley.

591
0:41:05 --> 0:41:09
There's other attorneys that work with him,

592
0:41:09 --> 0:41:10
but you know what I'll do?

593
0:41:10 --> 0:41:13
I'll go ahead and contact Jeremy Snavely.

594
0:41:13 --> 0:41:17
He's the administrative manager there at the AAPS

595
0:41:17 --> 0:41:21
and ask him to contact you to see if,

596
0:41:21 --> 0:41:22
A, you're still a member,

597
0:41:22 --> 0:41:26
and B, if maybe they can let you know

598
0:41:26 --> 0:41:29
what assistance they could offer you from a legal standpoint.

599
0:41:30 --> 0:41:31
Okay, well, I appreciate that.

600
0:41:31 --> 0:41:32
Thank you, Daria.

601
0:41:32 --> 0:41:35
And Daria, I'd also talk to Jeremy about the fact that

602
0:41:38 --> 0:41:40
they might have provision when doctors are being attacked

603
0:41:40 --> 0:41:43
like Kirk, that their membership may well,

604
0:41:43 --> 0:41:45
could easily be, you know, waived.

605
0:41:45 --> 0:41:48
So you might raise that with Jeremy.

606
0:41:49 --> 0:41:53
Yeah, Daria, it'd be great if you could introduce

607
0:41:54 --> 0:41:57
them to Kirk, I think.

608
0:41:57 --> 0:41:59
Well, yeah, since Kirk was a member already,

609
0:41:59 --> 0:42:02
and maybe it just is laxed at the moment,

610
0:42:04 --> 0:42:06
I will contact Jeremy,

611
0:42:06 --> 0:42:08
in fact, I'm gonna text him right now,

612
0:42:08 --> 0:42:10
and ask him to reach out to you

613
0:42:10 --> 0:42:13
to see if he can get reactivated or,

614
0:42:13 --> 0:42:16
if you're still activated and what the situation is.

615
0:42:16 --> 0:42:18
Okay, thank you so much.

616
0:42:18 --> 0:42:19
God bless you again.

617
0:42:22 --> 0:42:22
Thank you.

618
0:42:22 --> 0:42:24
Thank you, Daria, well said.

619
0:42:24 --> 0:42:27
Now, Jerry goes next, but I think Peter Underwood,

620
0:42:27 --> 0:42:30
what happens with Zoom these days, so everybody knows,

621
0:42:31 --> 0:42:35
if you put your hand up and then you make a noise

622
0:42:35 --> 0:42:38
like you fart loudly, he puts your hand down.

623
0:42:38 --> 0:42:40
So, Peter, you must have farted.

624
0:42:40 --> 0:42:45
So I think Peter, I think you're after Jerry

625
0:42:46 --> 0:42:48
and before Albert, but anyway, Jerry, you next.

626
0:42:48 --> 0:42:49
Thanks, Charles.

627
0:42:50 --> 0:42:52
Thank you, yeah, I lost the internet.

628
0:42:52 --> 0:42:54
We have, in South Africa here,

629
0:42:54 --> 0:42:56
we have an intermittent service,

630
0:42:56 --> 0:43:00
something to do with undersea cables somewhere or another.

631
0:43:00 --> 0:43:03
Oh yeah, absolutely, nothing to do with the corruption

632
0:43:03 --> 0:43:05
in the South African political system.

633
0:43:05 --> 0:43:10
Jerry, our favorite Irishman, Kirk.

634
0:43:11 --> 0:43:12
Hi, Kirk, how are you?

635
0:43:12 --> 0:43:15
Nice to hear, I've been following your case

636
0:43:15 --> 0:43:16
for quite some time.

637
0:43:19 --> 0:43:22
Unlike you, I'm relatively unknown,

638
0:43:22 --> 0:43:24
but I happen to be the only Irish doctor

639
0:43:24 --> 0:43:27
that was suspended from the medical register

640
0:43:27 --> 0:43:32
for refusal to give the vaccine three and a half years ago.

641
0:43:32 --> 0:43:37
I had my license to practice after 40 years as a GP,

642
0:43:38 --> 0:43:41
suspended illegally, temporarily, mind you,

643
0:43:41 --> 0:43:46
for three and a half years, with the loss of all income.

644
0:43:46 --> 0:43:51
I just find it fascinating that you as a plastic surgeon

645
0:43:52 --> 0:43:56
should sign up to give as a vaccine clinic.

646
0:43:56 --> 0:44:01
And I know that you say you treated 800 patients

647
0:44:03 --> 0:44:08
I as a GP have treated thousands of patients for COVID,

648
0:44:11 --> 0:44:15
never diagnosed by me because I never did a PCR

649
0:44:15 --> 0:44:17
and never sent anybody for a PCR test.

650
0:44:17 --> 0:44:22
I totally rejected the PCR as a legitimate means

651
0:44:22 --> 0:44:25
to diagnose COVID with the result

652
0:44:25 --> 0:44:27
that I continued to do exactly as I had done

653
0:44:27 --> 0:44:31
for the 40 previous years, the 40 previous winters.

654
0:44:31 --> 0:44:34
I had actually examined every patient.

655
0:44:34 --> 0:44:38
I had sent nobody home to get pneumonitis or pneumonia.

656
0:44:38 --> 0:44:41
I had given them all as you mentioned,

657
0:44:41 --> 0:44:46
steroids, antibiotics, bronchodilators,

658
0:44:46 --> 0:44:49
expectorants, or perhaps sent for X-ray.

659
0:44:49 --> 0:44:53
And I got a hundred percent success rate

660
0:44:53 --> 0:44:58
without the use of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.

661
0:44:59 --> 0:45:03
It's funny, your timeline very much resonates with me

662
0:45:03 --> 0:45:07
because being Irish, I was very aware on the 17th of March

663
0:45:07 --> 0:45:11
that they had canceled our St. Patrick's Day parade.

664
0:45:11 --> 0:45:14
And I was very, very aware of what was going on.

665
0:45:14 --> 0:45:15
So as I say, it's funny that you should bring in

666
0:45:15 --> 0:45:18
the sort of Irish element of it.

667
0:45:18 --> 0:45:20
So my question fundamentally is,

668
0:45:20 --> 0:45:25
why did you sign up to get, to give the vaccine

669
0:45:26 --> 0:45:29
if you felt that there was need for it?

670
0:45:29 --> 0:45:31
Did you or anybody in your clinic

671
0:45:31 --> 0:45:33
actually administer the vaccine?

672
0:45:33 --> 0:45:35
And you say you didn't take any money,

673
0:45:35 --> 0:45:39
but I know in Ireland, we were paid by the government

674
0:45:39 --> 0:45:44
to actually give the vaccine at 60 euros a go,

675
0:45:45 --> 0:45:49
as opposed to 18 euros ago for the flu vaccine.

676
0:45:49 --> 0:45:53
So I'm just wondering, did your clinic administer,

677
0:45:53 --> 0:45:58
A, administer the vaccine and B, did they get money

678
0:45:58 --> 0:46:03
quite apart from the cash that they may have offered,

679
0:46:03 --> 0:46:05
but from the government?

680
0:46:06 --> 0:46:10
So Jerry, thank you for that.

681
0:46:12 --> 0:46:14
Just a little backstory with that.

682
0:46:14 --> 0:46:16
The only reason I treated with hydroxychloroquine

683
0:46:16 --> 0:46:19
and ivermectin is because I didn't have 40 years

684
0:46:19 --> 0:46:22
of experience as a primary care doc,

685
0:46:22 --> 0:46:24
taking care of flu symptoms.

686
0:46:24 --> 0:46:29
And so it was, what I was learning about at the time,

687
0:46:30 --> 0:46:33
COVID and everything else was, hey, early treatment,

688
0:46:33 --> 0:46:35
early treatment with steroids,

689
0:46:35 --> 0:46:37
early treatment with antibiotics,

690
0:46:37 --> 0:46:40
early treatment with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.

691
0:46:40 --> 0:46:42
I'd had some experience with hydroxychloroquine

692
0:46:42 --> 0:46:45
as an anti-malarial drug three times going to Africa,

693
0:46:46 --> 0:46:47
and I knew how safe it was.

694
0:46:48 --> 0:46:51
So I was not opposed to treating it.

695
0:46:51 --> 0:46:56
And all the reports that I'd gotten and all the studies,

696
0:46:57 --> 0:46:59
well, the studies that I was reading,

697
0:46:59 --> 0:47:02
even some of the COVID-19 treatment studies

698
0:47:02 --> 0:47:06
that we're publishing, either randomized or case studies

699
0:47:06 --> 0:47:08
regarding hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin,

700
0:47:08 --> 0:47:10
I just, I went down that route.

701
0:47:10 --> 0:47:15
But I did not, I don't bill insurance.

702
0:47:16 --> 0:47:19
So I didn't have the capacity to bill insurance.

703
0:47:19 --> 0:47:23
So yes, the primary care offices and pediatrics offices

704
0:47:23 --> 0:47:26
had the ability to bill insurance when a patient came in

705
0:47:27 --> 0:47:29
and was administered a vaccine.

706
0:47:29 --> 0:47:34
So you got an administration fee for the vaccine.

707
0:47:37 --> 0:47:39
I don't have the capacity to do that.

708
0:47:39 --> 0:47:40
I never did.

709
0:47:40 --> 0:47:41
I don't bill insurance.

710
0:47:41 --> 0:47:43
I don't have the capacity to do that.

711
0:47:43 --> 0:47:44
I never did.

712
0:47:44 --> 0:47:46
I don't bill insurance.

713
0:47:46 --> 0:47:51
And so therefore I never got paid for any administration fee.

714
0:47:51 --> 0:47:56
The COVID vaccine that we received from the state of Utah

715
0:47:56 --> 0:47:58
was also free and provided to us.

716
0:47:58 --> 0:48:01
All we had to do was either send an email or call in

717
0:48:01 --> 0:48:03
and it would get delivered to us.

718
0:48:04 --> 0:48:07
No, my question is, did you or your staff

719
0:48:07 --> 0:48:10
administer the vaccine to any patients at any time?

720
0:48:11 --> 0:48:14
I have to be careful to answer that question, Jerry,

721
0:48:15 --> 0:48:16
directly.

722
0:48:16 --> 0:48:18
I'll take that as an affirmative.

723
0:48:19 --> 0:48:23
We gave our patients what they asked for

724
0:48:23 --> 0:48:25
after full informed consent.

725
0:48:25 --> 0:48:26
And that's pretty cool.

726
0:48:26 --> 0:48:28
You see, this is an interesting concept.

727
0:48:28 --> 0:48:31
The idea that, and Charles spoke about it,

728
0:48:31 --> 0:48:33
doing what patients ask.

729
0:48:33 --> 0:48:35
I as a GP have spent my life refusing

730
0:48:35 --> 0:48:36
to do what patients ask.

731
0:48:36 --> 0:48:38
There's no imperative in medicine

732
0:48:38 --> 0:48:41
to do what patients ask or request.

733
0:48:41 --> 0:48:43
You actually as a doctor are trained

734
0:48:43 --> 0:48:45
to do what is right, irrespective.

735
0:48:45 --> 0:48:48
And I spent my life refusing people

736
0:48:48 --> 0:48:49
who were looking for sedatives,

737
0:48:49 --> 0:48:51
who were looking for hypnotics, sleeping tablets,

738
0:48:51 --> 0:48:54
sedatives, Valium, Diazepam.

739
0:48:54 --> 0:48:56
I spent my life refusing people

740
0:48:56 --> 0:48:58
to give antibiotics for viral infections.

741
0:48:58 --> 0:49:02
My life over 40 years was half, well not half,

742
0:49:02 --> 0:49:04
but a high proportion was actually spent

743
0:49:04 --> 0:49:07
refusing to do what patients asked or required.

744
0:49:08 --> 0:49:10
There's absolutely no imperative

745
0:49:10 --> 0:49:13
that we as frontline doctors do.

746
0:49:13 --> 0:49:16
And so too with you, I've absolutely no doubt

747
0:49:16 --> 0:49:20
as a plastic surgeon that are a cosmetic surgeon

748
0:49:20 --> 0:49:22
that you don't do what the patient asks.

749
0:49:22 --> 0:49:23
If somebody came in and said,

750
0:49:23 --> 0:49:28
I want something done and you felt as a professional

751
0:49:28 --> 0:49:31
that would not suit you or that would not be

752
0:49:31 --> 0:49:33
in your best interest and you'd be coming back

753
0:49:33 --> 0:49:35
in six months time thinking I'm not happy with that.

754
0:49:35 --> 0:49:38
I have no doubt that you would be refusing to do it.

755
0:49:38 --> 0:49:40
That is what a good doctor does.

756
0:49:40 --> 0:49:42
And a lot of the strength of a doctor requires

757
0:49:42 --> 0:49:45
not doing what patients ask or request.

758
0:49:46 --> 0:49:48
Well, again, doing what they asked

759
0:49:48 --> 0:49:53
when you have people coming in that are purposely there

760
0:49:54 --> 0:49:56
potentially for not, you know,

761
0:49:56 --> 0:49:58
because of the reasons that they knew

762
0:49:58 --> 0:50:00
what it was that was going on,

763
0:50:00 --> 0:50:02
where there was an agreement on our side

764
0:50:02 --> 0:50:06
that we either gave them a shot that they wanted

765
0:50:06 --> 0:50:07
or a shot that they didn't want.

766
0:50:07 --> 0:50:10
So it was certainly a discussion, you know,

767
0:50:10 --> 0:50:13
as a physician, you're correct.

768
0:50:13 --> 0:50:14
You're a professional, you have some knowledge

769
0:50:14 --> 0:50:16
that your patients don't have

770
0:50:16 --> 0:50:19
and you impart that knowledge to them.

771
0:50:19 --> 0:50:23
And whether they want to take it or not is up to them.

772
0:50:24 --> 0:50:29
And so it was an agreed upon treatment plan

773
0:50:29 --> 0:50:33
that we came to with after, you know,

774
0:50:33 --> 0:50:35
mutual discussion about what the risks and benefits were

775
0:50:35 --> 0:50:37
and what was best for them.

776
0:50:37 --> 0:50:39
Well, in which case you should never have given

777
0:50:39 --> 0:50:42
any of the vaccines because there was absolutely no benefits

778
0:50:45 --> 0:50:46
at that point in time.

779
0:50:46 --> 0:50:49
So who said I did give it?

780
0:50:50 --> 0:50:52
Well, you didn't say you didn't.

781
0:50:52 --> 0:50:53
Anyway, that's new to hear there.

782
0:50:53 --> 0:50:55
That's new to hear there.

783
0:50:56 --> 0:50:59
My job as a doctor here is to actually cross examine you

784
0:50:59 --> 0:51:02
in a way such that.

785
0:51:02 --> 0:51:06
But Jerry, so Kirk did say, he is our guest.

786
0:51:06 --> 0:51:09
So he did say that he had to be careful

787
0:51:09 --> 0:51:10
how he answered that.

788
0:51:10 --> 0:51:13
Now I took that to mean that he had to be careful

789
0:51:13 --> 0:51:16
because of his criminal indictment.

790
0:51:16 --> 0:51:21
Sorry, Stephen, I won't interrupt your questioning

791
0:51:22 --> 0:51:24
or your interaction with the patient.

792
0:51:24 --> 0:51:27
And I appreciate if you don't interrupt my,

793
0:51:27 --> 0:51:32
I as a GP, as a doctor 47 years and as a GP of 40 years

794
0:51:32 --> 0:51:35
have a perspective that I've got a right to

795
0:51:35 --> 0:51:37
if you don't mind, Stephen.

796
0:51:37 --> 0:51:41
And I totally appreciate Kirk's view

797
0:51:41 --> 0:51:43
that he doesn't want to say certain things.

798
0:51:43 --> 0:51:45
And I accepted that.

799
0:51:45 --> 0:51:49
But the point really is, I just find it fascinating

800
0:51:49 --> 0:51:52
that somebody would go from being a cosmetic surgeon

801
0:51:52 --> 0:51:56
in the same way as if a radiologist decided to become a GP

802
0:51:56 --> 0:52:00
or a GP decided overnight to become a radiologist.

803
0:52:00 --> 0:52:02
It doesn't just seem practical.

804
0:52:02 --> 0:52:06
And I suppose I'm asking, why did Kirk do it?

805
0:52:06 --> 0:52:08
If Kirk did it fundamentally not,

806
0:52:08 --> 0:52:11
or rather to pretend to give vaccines

807
0:52:11 --> 0:52:14
and give out vaccine certs, I absolutely applaud him.

808
0:52:14 --> 0:52:17
But if there was a motivation to get involved

809
0:52:17 --> 0:52:21
in the vaccine business at that point in time,

810
0:52:22 --> 0:52:24
he does say he didn't really understand what was going on.

811
0:52:24 --> 0:52:28
I think, look, if Kirk chooses to come before this group

812
0:52:28 --> 0:52:32
that happens to be called doctors for COVID ethics,

813
0:52:34 --> 0:52:38
and as Charles says, nobody, you know,

814
0:52:38 --> 0:52:41
we're not in the offense business.

815
0:52:41 --> 0:52:44
If you want, if he wants to be offended by my questioning,

816
0:52:44 --> 0:52:45
that's fine.

817
0:52:45 --> 0:52:50
But overall, I'm just fascinated that he made that choice

818
0:52:50 --> 0:52:55
to apply and be accepted on as a vaccine clinic.

819
0:52:55 --> 0:53:00
And I, on the other hand, had no choice.

820
0:53:00 --> 0:53:02
I was struck off because as a GP,

821
0:53:03 --> 0:53:05
I was obliged to give it.

822
0:53:05 --> 0:53:06
I was mandated to give it.

823
0:53:06 --> 0:53:09
And when I refused to give it, I lost my income.

824
0:53:09 --> 0:53:11
Now, admittedly, I was at a different stage

825
0:53:11 --> 0:53:16
because I'm pretty much 20 years older than Kirk.

826
0:53:16 --> 0:53:19
But it's just something that I feel

827
0:53:19 --> 0:53:24
that is totally in order to question in this format.

828
0:53:24 --> 0:53:25
Good. Thank you, Kirk.

829
0:53:25 --> 0:53:26
Thanks, Jerry.

830
0:53:26 --> 0:53:28
Hey, thanks, Jerry.

831
0:53:28 --> 0:53:32
Okay, Al, we'll go to Peter Underwood first

832
0:53:32 --> 0:53:34
because he had his hand up, then Albert.

833
0:53:35 --> 0:53:37
Thank you, Charles.

834
0:53:37 --> 0:53:39
Blessings to you, Kirk.

835
0:53:42 --> 0:53:47
You're probably 1% or so of the moral ethics

836
0:53:48 --> 0:53:51
of the medical profession that have stood out

837
0:53:51 --> 0:53:53
and I stand by you.

838
0:53:53 --> 0:53:55
Now, my question is probably addressed to you,

839
0:53:55 --> 0:54:00
but also the others in the group here.

840
0:54:01 --> 0:54:06
And it's to do with my diagnosis as being bipolar.

841
0:54:06 --> 0:54:10
A quick history, I had a yachting accident.

842
0:54:10 --> 0:54:14
I'm a yachtsman, lifelong yachtsman.

843
0:54:14 --> 0:54:19
And I had a yachting accident in late 1990.

844
0:54:20 --> 0:54:24
And I was hospitalized about a month later,

845
0:54:24 --> 0:54:28
which in retrospect now I know as PTSD,

846
0:54:29 --> 0:54:33
but actually the psychiatrist at the hospital at the time

847
0:54:34 --> 0:54:35
diagnosed me as bipolar.

848
0:54:37 --> 0:54:42
And I was put on lithium for five years until 95.

849
0:54:44 --> 0:54:48
And I kicked that because it wasn't making me feel

850
0:54:48 --> 0:54:50
very well at all.

851
0:54:51 --> 0:54:56
And I did nothing then until I came to South Africa in 1999.

852
0:54:57 --> 0:55:01
And I was okay and I was fine here in South Africa.

853
0:55:02 --> 0:55:05
I had to go back to UK in 2009.

854
0:55:06 --> 0:55:11
And I had an episode, almost a repeat of the 1990 trauma.

855
0:55:15 --> 0:55:18
And I saw a psychiatrist, Dr. Cox in...

856
0:55:19 --> 0:55:21
What's the question, Peter?

857
0:55:21 --> 0:55:24
The question is, the question is,

858
0:55:24 --> 0:55:29
what does Kirk know or do anybody else know

859
0:55:29 --> 0:55:32
about the construct that I now believe

860
0:55:33 --> 0:55:36
is a construct called bipolar?

861
0:55:36 --> 0:55:38
Because I read Peter Reagan's book,

862
0:55:39 --> 0:55:44
COVID Predators, We Are the Prey, page 286, 287.

863
0:55:47 --> 0:55:52
He identified respirodone as being a lethal drug

864
0:55:57 --> 0:56:01
that was invented by a well-known doctor.

865
0:56:01 --> 0:56:03
It's described in his book.

866
0:56:04 --> 0:56:07
And I was put on respirodone in 2009

867
0:56:07 --> 0:56:10
until I came back to South Africa here.

868
0:56:10 --> 0:56:14
And well, until I read Peter's, Reagan's book.

869
0:56:14 --> 0:56:19
And I wanted to ask anyone, is this condition bipolar?

870
0:56:20 --> 0:56:23
Actually a real thing?

871
0:56:23 --> 0:56:25
Peter Reagan says it isn't.

872
0:56:28 --> 0:56:30
Well, we've got a, we look like,

873
0:56:30 --> 0:56:34
it looks like we've got a real human being here in Kirkmore,

874
0:56:34 --> 0:56:36
but apparently he's a plastic human being.

875
0:56:36 --> 0:56:38
He knows a plastic surgeon.

876
0:56:38 --> 0:56:39
So Peter, there you are.

877
0:56:39 --> 0:56:41
Like, before you answer that,

878
0:56:41 --> 0:56:44
I will quote John Rappaport,

879
0:56:44 --> 0:56:47
of whom I'm a big fan, had been for 20 years.

880
0:56:47 --> 0:56:49
And he says, Peter,

881
0:56:49 --> 0:56:54
there is no scientific test for any mental disorder.

882
0:56:54 --> 0:56:59
So this whole, so I'm certainly in support of that,

883
0:56:59 --> 0:57:02
but Kirk, if you don't feel qualified to answer,

884
0:57:02 --> 0:57:03
you can have it.

885
0:57:04 --> 0:57:07
Peter, I appreciate you asking me,

886
0:57:07 --> 0:57:09
but just like I stepped outside of my zone

887
0:57:09 --> 0:57:14
from a plastic surgeon to a primary care doc for a few years,

888
0:57:14 --> 0:57:17
you know, speaking about things about psychiatry

889
0:57:17 --> 0:57:21
is well outside of my purview, I'm sorry.

890
0:57:21 --> 0:57:26
But I tend to agree with Charles or Peter,

891
0:57:27 --> 0:57:32
or Rappaport about the diagnosis

892
0:57:32 --> 0:57:37
and the ability to actually make diagnoses

893
0:57:37 --> 0:57:42
of mental illness and the accuracy or efficiency

894
0:57:42 --> 0:57:43
of our ability to do that.

895
0:57:45 --> 0:57:46
Yep, thank you.

896
0:57:46 --> 0:57:47
Thank you.

897
0:57:47 --> 0:57:47
Thank you, Kirk.

898
0:57:47 --> 0:57:48
Thank you, Peter.

899
0:57:48 --> 0:57:51
Albert, Kirk, I'm sure you've heard about Albert,

900
0:57:51 --> 0:57:52
haven't you?

901
0:57:52 --> 0:57:55
I have, I think Albert and I have actually communicated

902
0:57:55 --> 0:57:58
either on the phone or via email

903
0:57:58 --> 0:57:59
about various things in the past.

904
0:57:59 --> 0:58:01
Albert, good to see you.

905
0:58:01 --> 0:58:03
It's good to see you too, Dr. Moore.

906
0:58:04 --> 0:58:07
Man, you know, I wrote in the comments,

907
0:58:07 --> 0:58:12
the armor of God, and you literally like picked up

908
0:58:12 --> 0:58:17
the armor and helped protect and save people

909
0:58:17 --> 0:58:19
as far as I'm concerned.

910
0:58:20 --> 0:58:25
With that said, you said that you got 2,000 Vaxes.

911
0:58:25 --> 0:58:30
2,000 Vaxes, were they all Moderna's or Pfizer's or combos?

912
0:58:31 --> 0:58:35
No, it was combination of Johnson and Johnson,

913
0:58:35 --> 0:58:38
Pfizer, Moderna, and then some pediatric dosing

914
0:58:38 --> 0:58:40
and everything else.

915
0:58:40 --> 0:58:43
I put a couple of pictures up in the comments.

916
0:58:43 --> 0:58:47
I hope you download them, but I've since made

917
0:58:47 --> 0:58:51
a couple of dashboards based on the HiWire

918
0:58:51 --> 0:58:55
and ICANN's FOIA data, because in there,

919
0:58:55 --> 0:58:57
they gave the actual shipments

920
0:58:57 --> 0:59:01
and how many they shipped per lot.

921
0:59:01 --> 0:59:04
And what was really good is that Pfizer

922
0:59:04 --> 0:59:09
actually gave provider names with zip codes in cities.

923
0:59:10 --> 0:59:12
Moderna didn't give the provider names,

924
0:59:12 --> 0:59:14
but gave zip codes.

925
0:59:14 --> 0:59:18
So I took it upon myself, as you were talking,

926
0:59:18 --> 0:59:22
I ran in there and I used an example of a,

927
0:59:22 --> 0:59:26
and please do not tell me if this is you or not,

928
0:59:27 --> 0:59:31
but from Midvale, Utah, a facility called

929
0:59:31 --> 0:59:34
Plastic Surgery Institute that received

930
0:59:35 --> 0:59:40
these certain Pfizer lots, FL0007 and FL8095.

931
0:59:44 --> 0:59:47
And the thing about it is, just as an example,

932
0:59:49 --> 0:59:52
did you in hindsight, have you gone back

933
0:59:53 --> 0:59:55
to see how toxic, whatever lots they gave you,

934
0:59:55 --> 0:59:58
how toxic they are today?

935
0:59:58 --> 1:00:01
Because one thing for sure is that VAERS

936
1:00:02 --> 1:00:06
throttles purposefully delays the publication of reports.

937
1:00:06 --> 1:00:09
So even now today, supposed new reports

938
1:00:09 --> 1:00:13
coming into the systems are for vax dates

939
1:00:13 --> 1:00:15
in 2021 and 2022.

940
1:00:15 --> 1:00:19
So it's just piling on, the toxicity seems to just

941
1:00:19 --> 1:00:23
keep piling on to these lot numbers.

942
1:00:23 --> 1:00:27
And I can't imagine, I mean, I have to imagine

943
1:00:27 --> 1:00:31
it would like strengthen your case if the lots

944
1:00:31 --> 1:00:36
that were given to you, you could actually say,

945
1:00:36 --> 1:00:40
look, man, they're toxic, they're more toxic,

946
1:00:40 --> 1:00:44
whatever, however they stack up against the other data

947
1:00:44 --> 1:00:45
for the other lots.

948
1:00:45 --> 1:00:49
But I offer that information to you,

949
1:00:49 --> 1:00:53
whether your attorney or your team has looked,

950
1:00:53 --> 1:00:57
has retroactively, retroactively looked at those lots

951
1:00:57 --> 1:00:59
that they gave you to see how toxic they are.

952
1:00:59 --> 1:01:02
I'd really love to help you in any way I can.

953
1:01:02 --> 1:01:06
But thank you and God bless you, Dr. Moore.

954
1:01:06 --> 1:01:08
You are straight gangsta.

955
1:01:08 --> 1:01:11
You're the kind of guy I wanna fight with.

956
1:01:11 --> 1:01:12
Thank you.

957
1:01:13 --> 1:01:18
Well, Albert, I will tell you that when the website,

958
1:01:18 --> 1:01:22
how bad is my batch came out, I was extremely interested

959
1:01:22 --> 1:01:26
to see doing a compare and contrast,

960
1:01:26 --> 1:01:30
but it was really pretty difficult for us to do that.

961
1:01:30 --> 1:01:34
Like you said, because the data was so sparse

962
1:01:34 --> 1:01:38
and difficult to find, but I will tell you,

963
1:01:38 --> 1:01:39
and I don't know what the numbers were

964
1:01:39 --> 1:01:40
off the top of my head right now,

965
1:01:40 --> 1:01:43
but I will tell you that some of the ones that I saw

966
1:01:43 --> 1:01:48
on how bad is my batch in terms of the double digits,

967
1:01:48 --> 1:01:51
triple digits in morbidity and mortality numbers

968
1:01:51 --> 1:01:52
compared to some of the other batches

969
1:01:52 --> 1:01:54
were definitely some of the batches

970
1:01:54 --> 1:01:57
that we had received in our office.

971
1:01:57 --> 1:01:58
Awesome, yeah.

972
1:01:58 --> 1:02:01
God bless Craig Party Cooper.

973
1:02:01 --> 1:02:03
How bad is my batch?

974
1:02:04 --> 1:02:06
He's the Godfather, but that's a black cup of coffee.

975
1:02:06 --> 1:02:08
Mine's a caramel macchiato.

976
1:02:09 --> 1:02:10
Mine's an interactive dashboard.

977
1:02:10 --> 1:02:13
His is a B lookup, there is no comparison.

978
1:02:13 --> 1:02:15
I would love to sit down with you and go over that

979
1:02:15 --> 1:02:19
and pull up my list of batch numbers

980
1:02:19 --> 1:02:20
and everything else that we had

981
1:02:20 --> 1:02:23
and go through that with you and come up with

982
1:02:23 --> 1:02:28
kind of a very nice spreadsheet or information

983
1:02:28 --> 1:02:30
in terms of being able to present all that

984
1:02:30 --> 1:02:32
in terms of a nice data file.

985
1:02:32 --> 1:02:32
Thank you.

986
1:02:32 --> 1:02:33
Yeah, right on.

987
1:02:33 --> 1:02:35
I'm here for you anytime.

988
1:02:35 --> 1:02:37
Thanks, thank you, Albert.

989
1:02:37 --> 1:02:38
Mark, you're next.

990
1:02:38 --> 1:02:39
I saw you dropped off.

991
1:02:39 --> 1:02:41
So as I say, if you make a noise,

992
1:02:41 --> 1:02:44
then the hand drops, you're next, Mark.

993
1:02:45 --> 1:02:47
Thanks, thanks, thanks for that, Charles.

994
1:02:47 --> 1:02:50
Kirk, fantastic, great to hear your story.

995
1:02:50 --> 1:02:53
Yeah, I'd love to assist in any way possible.

996
1:02:53 --> 1:02:56
You do know that it was a biological chemical weapons

997
1:02:56 --> 1:02:57
program, yeah?

998
1:02:58 --> 1:02:59
You do know that.

999
1:02:59 --> 1:03:04
You know the recent affidavit that's been put in

1000
1:03:04 --> 1:03:07
by Professor Francis Boyle.

1001
1:03:07 --> 1:03:08
Yes.

1002
1:03:08 --> 1:03:10
So you know about that.

1003
1:03:10 --> 1:03:12
If there's anything you need to assist,

1004
1:03:12 --> 1:03:16
with all the ingredients in these contaminated shots,

1005
1:03:16 --> 1:03:17
they're bio weapons.

1006
1:03:17 --> 1:03:20
Let's stop calling them vaccines.

1007
1:03:20 --> 1:03:22
It was a bio weapons program.

1008
1:03:22 --> 1:03:24
It was run by the DOD.

1009
1:03:24 --> 1:03:26
It's a globalist agenda that depopulates

1010
1:03:26 --> 1:03:31
the interconnected nanometamaterial antennas.

1011
1:03:31 --> 1:03:34
I mean, I'm testing lots of people at the minute.

1012
1:03:34 --> 1:03:37
They're running around with MAC codes, media access codes.

1013
1:03:37 --> 1:03:39
It's unbelievable what's going on.

1014
1:03:39 --> 1:03:43
However, all of that evidence will assist your legal team

1015
1:03:43 --> 1:03:44
in a cold case.

1016
1:03:44 --> 1:03:47
I've got, we've had several over here.

1017
1:03:48 --> 1:03:53
Just to give you a bit of an upside on one of the cases

1018
1:03:53 --> 1:03:58
we had just last month was a guy who threatened

1019
1:04:00 --> 1:04:03
some people installing LED street furniture

1020
1:04:03 --> 1:04:04
over the firearm.

1021
1:04:05 --> 1:04:08
It's a section 19 firearms act.

1022
1:04:08 --> 1:04:10
We had a defense to that because we know that the LEDs

1023
1:04:10 --> 1:04:13
are part of a weapons program called soft kill.

1024
1:04:13 --> 1:04:14
We can prove that.

1025
1:04:14 --> 1:04:17
And during that cold case,

1026
1:04:17 --> 1:04:20
the Crown Prosecution Service have dropped the case

1027
1:04:20 --> 1:04:22
because they don't want to continue

1028
1:04:22 --> 1:04:25
because they said it's not in the public interest.

1029
1:04:25 --> 1:04:27
So we've got all the evidence.

1030
1:04:27 --> 1:04:29
We've got the evidence of the ULAS,

1031
1:04:29 --> 1:04:31
the low emission zone weapons deployments,

1032
1:04:31 --> 1:04:33
the direction of weapons systems that interconnected

1033
1:04:33 --> 1:04:38
with the contamination that was currently in those shots,

1034
1:04:38 --> 1:04:41
not vaccines, by weapons, the contaminated parts.

1035
1:04:41 --> 1:04:42
We have them.

1036
1:04:42 --> 1:04:45
We've got the spectrum analysis of them.

1037
1:04:45 --> 1:04:47
We know exactly how they work.

1038
1:04:47 --> 1:04:51
These graphite, ferritic oxide, nano-material antennas

1039
1:04:51 --> 1:04:54
to track, trace and to terminate the victim.

1040
1:04:54 --> 1:04:55
So we've got all that evidence.

1041
1:04:55 --> 1:04:58
If we can assist in any way with your cold case,

1042
1:04:58 --> 1:05:00
just getting touch, Kirk, you know,

1043
1:05:00 --> 1:05:04
I'm absolutely happy to assist anybody fighting this fight.

1044
1:05:04 --> 1:05:05
Okay.

1045
1:05:05 --> 1:05:08
So if you need anything in relation to that,

1046
1:05:08 --> 1:05:09
we're here to help.

1047
1:05:09 --> 1:05:10
Well, I appreciate that, Mark.

1048
1:05:10 --> 1:05:15
Listen, one of the things that I've been saying all along

1049
1:05:16 --> 1:05:20
for the last 18 months is that there's a lot of things

1050
1:05:20 --> 1:05:22
that our government just doesn't want to expose.

1051
1:05:22 --> 1:05:23
And there's been a lot of civil cases

1052
1:05:23 --> 1:05:27
that have been brought to try to expose both our government

1053
1:05:27 --> 1:05:32
as well as Pfizer and Moderna and all of these agencies

1054
1:05:32 --> 1:05:34
that are involved in it.

1055
1:05:34 --> 1:05:37
And they've been able to, on the civil side,

1056
1:05:37 --> 1:05:39
they've been able to kind of avoid

1057
1:05:39 --> 1:05:42
any kind of responsibility or any kind of accountability.

1058
1:05:43 --> 1:05:48
But if I can get the right approach

1059
1:05:48 --> 1:05:51
from a criminal perspective that has any evidence in any,

1060
1:05:51 --> 1:05:54
and it stays within boundaries of being able

1061
1:05:54 --> 1:05:57
to defend myself against having administered a bio-weapon

1062
1:05:57 --> 1:06:00
like you say, and we can present that evidence

1063
1:06:00 --> 1:06:04
and get that, and essentially ask the government

1064
1:06:04 --> 1:06:08
to present that evidence to us as part of our defense,

1065
1:06:08 --> 1:06:13
then they, from the legal perspective in the United States

1066
1:06:13 --> 1:06:17
due to a court case, a Brady issue

1067
1:06:17 --> 1:06:18
where they have to disclose information

1068
1:06:18 --> 1:06:21
that could potentially be exculpatory,

1069
1:06:22 --> 1:06:24
that would be tremendous for us

1070
1:06:24 --> 1:06:27
because enough to put pressure on them

1071
1:06:28 --> 1:06:29
to be able to kind of say,

1072
1:06:29 --> 1:06:31
hey, we don't really want to get this information exposed.

1073
1:06:31 --> 1:06:34
So I'm open to any and all of that.

1074
1:06:34 --> 1:06:36
So I appreciate that, Mark.

1075
1:06:36 --> 1:06:37
Well, we can definitely assist with that.

1076
1:06:37 --> 1:06:41
One of the things everybody, my email's being taken down.

1077
1:06:41 --> 1:06:46
Last week I've filed against TFL and the GLE in London

1078
1:06:46 --> 1:06:48
due to the deployment of a demonstrable

1079
1:06:48 --> 1:06:53
directional weapon system masquerading as a NPR camera.

1080
1:06:54 --> 1:06:56
So my current email's down.

1081
1:06:56 --> 1:06:59
So if I'm gonna put it in the chat.

1082
1:06:59 --> 1:07:02
So I've got an email, Charles, so people can send me.

1083
1:07:02 --> 1:07:05
One of the lads sent me the link to this tonight

1084
1:07:05 --> 1:07:06
because my email's down.

1085
1:07:06 --> 1:07:08
Unfortunately, we do have the evidence.

1086
1:07:08 --> 1:07:11
It is horrific, but it is what it is.

1087
1:07:11 --> 1:07:13
And the technicalities of what we're talking about

1088
1:07:13 --> 1:07:15
are irrefutable.

1089
1:07:15 --> 1:07:16
That's the main thing.

1090
1:07:16 --> 1:07:19
And the judges, the judges who are sitting on these panels

1091
1:07:19 --> 1:07:21
as well as the prosecution barristers,

1092
1:07:21 --> 1:07:23
they have been injected

1093
1:07:23 --> 1:07:26
with these track trace termination technologies.

1094
1:07:27 --> 1:07:28
Excellent.

1095
1:07:28 --> 1:07:32
Put your email in there, Kirk, I think Mark.

1096
1:07:32 --> 1:07:37
Mark's perspective on this would be useful for your case.

1097
1:07:38 --> 1:07:41
As and so, I've got other questions,

1098
1:07:41 --> 1:07:42
but let's go to Cordelia

1099
1:07:42 --> 1:07:44
because your hand went down, Cordelia.

1100
1:07:44 --> 1:07:47
Then we go to Jim, who is JWT.

1101
1:07:49 --> 1:07:50
Hi.

1102
1:07:50 --> 1:07:53
It's more of a comment than a question.

1103
1:07:53 --> 1:07:56
I've just applied for a new job in the NHS.

1104
1:07:57 --> 1:07:58
I don't know whether you're familiar with that,

1105
1:07:58 --> 1:08:00
but I'm sure you know the NHS.

1106
1:08:00 --> 1:08:02
And after filling in a million forms

1107
1:08:02 --> 1:08:04
and passing the medical knowledge test,

1108
1:08:04 --> 1:08:07
I was finally offered the post.

1109
1:08:07 --> 1:08:11
And then I had to register on six online portals

1110
1:08:11 --> 1:08:15
to fill in more forms, probably a hundred forms.

1111
1:08:15 --> 1:08:19
And the last step was to travel to Liverpool

1112
1:08:19 --> 1:08:23
to attend an occupational health meeting

1113
1:08:23 --> 1:08:25
to have my blood taken for antibodies,

1114
1:08:25 --> 1:08:29
for hepatitis B, MMR, whooping cough,

1115
1:08:29 --> 1:08:32
varicella, rubella, what have you.

1116
1:08:32 --> 1:08:35
And if those antibody levels were too low,

1117
1:08:35 --> 1:08:39
then they would force me to have all these vaccinations

1118
1:08:39 --> 1:08:40
before starting the post.

1119
1:08:42 --> 1:08:44
So the system changed completely now

1120
1:08:44 --> 1:08:47
because even three years ago,

1121
1:08:47 --> 1:08:49
you could just turn up at a new job

1122
1:08:49 --> 1:08:53
and bring your certificates along and that was it.

1123
1:08:53 --> 1:08:57
And now the condition of employment

1124
1:08:57 --> 1:08:59
is based on your antibody levels.

1125
1:09:01 --> 1:09:05
And I think the whooping cough vaccination that's new now,

1126
1:09:05 --> 1:09:08
MMR, it's to have your levels checked

1127
1:09:08 --> 1:09:10
and then have a booster, I think that's new.

1128
1:09:10 --> 1:09:15
So it's quite frightening how they realised,

1129
1:09:15 --> 1:09:18
oh, with the COVID vaccination that went wrong

1130
1:09:18 --> 1:09:20
because most doctors and nurses are not having it now.

1131
1:09:20 --> 1:09:23
So now they're coming from another angle

1132
1:09:24 --> 1:09:26
and making us have all these things

1133
1:09:26 --> 1:09:29
that we really don't need.

1134
1:09:29 --> 1:09:31
And the thought of me having all these boosters

1135
1:09:31 --> 1:09:33
in a week before starting a new job,

1136
1:09:33 --> 1:09:36
it's frightening because that could easily push some

1137
1:09:36 --> 1:09:39
over the edge and cause MS or whatever.

1138
1:09:40 --> 1:09:41
Absolutely.

1139
1:09:42 --> 1:09:44
Don't do it, Cordelia.

1140
1:09:44 --> 1:09:45
Pardon?

1141
1:09:45 --> 1:09:47
Don't do it, but don't do it.

1142
1:09:47 --> 1:09:48
No, I pulled out.

1143
1:09:48 --> 1:09:51
I pulled out, I said, no, thank you very much.

1144
1:09:51 --> 1:09:51
I'm not doing it.

1145
1:09:53 --> 1:09:55
Did you say why?

1146
1:09:55 --> 1:09:57
Did you tell them why?

1147
1:09:57 --> 1:09:58
Well, I did email them, yes.

1148
1:09:58 --> 1:10:00
I did email them and then,

1149
1:10:00 --> 1:10:03
but that was last Friday evening and today Sunday,

1150
1:10:03 --> 1:10:05
so I haven't had a reply.

1151
1:10:05 --> 1:10:08
But it's just frightening that they,

1152
1:10:08 --> 1:10:11
so you couldn't, I think the system is designed

1153
1:10:11 --> 1:10:13
so you can't turn up with a certificate

1154
1:10:13 --> 1:10:15
that you got somewhere from a doctor

1155
1:10:15 --> 1:10:18
who signed the card and forgot the needle.

1156
1:10:19 --> 1:10:21
So the system is designed now that it's watertight

1157
1:10:21 --> 1:10:23
that you cannot escape the needle.

1158
1:10:24 --> 1:10:25
But that is just frightening.

1159
1:10:25 --> 1:10:27
So-

1160
1:10:27 --> 1:10:28
Cordelia, you ought to contact Andrew Bridgen,

1161
1:10:28 --> 1:10:31
who's currently fighting for his seat,

1162
1:10:31 --> 1:10:34
but this need, so, but could be useful to him

1163
1:10:34 --> 1:10:36
in one of his interviews.

1164
1:10:38 --> 1:10:38
Yeah.

1165
1:10:38 --> 1:10:43
He wouldn't need to name you if he didn't want them,

1166
1:10:43 --> 1:10:46
but it's, I had no idea that they were doing this.

1167
1:10:46 --> 1:10:49
They were trying to do this in the military with me

1168
1:10:49 --> 1:10:50
and I was resisting,

1169
1:10:50 --> 1:10:53
pretending I didn't understand what they were doing.

1170
1:10:53 --> 1:10:56
But actually I didn't understand to the extent I do now.

1171
1:10:57 --> 1:11:02
Well, it's just bonkers to give you a week's notice,

1172
1:11:02 --> 1:11:04
to have all these boosters within a week.

1173
1:11:04 --> 1:11:08
I mean, that could give you chronic fatigue and-

1174
1:11:08 --> 1:11:09
Absolutely.

1175
1:11:09 --> 1:11:11
Or other autoimmune conditions.

1176
1:11:11 --> 1:11:13
Or even autism.

1177
1:11:13 --> 1:11:15
Yeah, well, quite, but it's shocking.

1178
1:11:15 --> 1:11:18
Yeah, the young doctors, the 20 year olds,

1179
1:11:18 --> 1:11:22
or 23 year olds, they could get autism or so.

1180
1:11:22 --> 1:11:25
But it's just shocking how, to what extent,

1181
1:11:26 --> 1:11:28
also to travel to Liverpool

1182
1:11:28 --> 1:11:31
when I don't even have any annual leave left.

1183
1:11:31 --> 1:11:33
I mean, it's just not practical, isn't it?

1184
1:11:33 --> 1:11:36
So why do they want you to go to Liverpool, Cordelia?

1185
1:11:36 --> 1:11:38
I think it's because they can all do it

1186
1:11:38 --> 1:11:40
in a centralized lab.

1187
1:11:40 --> 1:11:43
So you're not trying to bypass it with,

1188
1:11:43 --> 1:11:46
oh, I know such and such will do it for me.

1189
1:11:46 --> 1:11:49
And I think because they're doing it in a centralized lab,

1190
1:11:49 --> 1:11:52
they can make sure there's no escape for any of them.

1191
1:11:53 --> 1:11:54
Well, as John's-

1192
1:11:54 --> 1:11:54
As John's-

1193
1:11:54 --> 1:11:55
So we need this, so Cordelia,

1194
1:11:55 --> 1:11:58
what we need to do there is put a freedom of information

1195
1:11:58 --> 1:12:01
act request in, not now maybe,

1196
1:12:01 --> 1:12:03
just wait for maybe three months, say,

1197
1:12:03 --> 1:12:08
and ask them for the figures on what,

1198
1:12:08 --> 1:12:10
we don't have to know the names of the people

1199
1:12:10 --> 1:12:11
that they're talking about,

1200
1:12:11 --> 1:12:16
but we want the figures, how many people failed the tests,

1201
1:12:16 --> 1:12:18
the antibodies tests,

1202
1:12:18 --> 1:12:21
and how many people actually went ahead

1203
1:12:21 --> 1:12:25
and had the vaccinations that were required.

1204
1:12:25 --> 1:12:27
This is outrageous, yeah.

1205
1:12:27 --> 1:12:28
Yeah, it's shocking, isn't it?

1206
1:12:28 --> 1:12:30
Absolutely shocking.

1207
1:12:30 --> 1:12:34
As John Bodewell says, it's a compliance test, Cordelia.

1208
1:12:34 --> 1:12:35
Yes.

1209
1:12:35 --> 1:12:36
Will you just do what you're told?

1210
1:12:36 --> 1:12:38
If so, then you're in.

1211
1:12:38 --> 1:12:41
But also what's outrageous is that went through

1212
1:12:41 --> 1:12:44
the process and the last step,

1213
1:12:44 --> 1:12:46
and so it's a good warning for everybody.

1214
1:12:46 --> 1:12:50
Whenever you apply for any new job, right upfront,

1215
1:12:50 --> 1:12:55
you get it in writing that there will be no requirement

1216
1:12:55 --> 1:12:57
for any medical intervention.

1217
1:12:57 --> 1:12:59
And if they don't tell you that upfront,

1218
1:12:59 --> 1:13:01
don't apply for the job.

1219
1:13:01 --> 1:13:03
All right, thank you, Cordelia.

1220
1:13:03 --> 1:13:04
As Stephen says-

1221
1:13:04 --> 1:13:06
Go ahead, just do not comply, period.

1222
1:13:06 --> 1:13:11
But Cordelia, the NHS is absolutely corrupt beyond belief.

1223
1:13:12 --> 1:13:13
Yeah, I know, it's correct.

1224
1:13:13 --> 1:13:16
And the managers running it are in a cult,

1225
1:13:16 --> 1:13:20
they think like a cult, and that the doctors say,

1226
1:13:20 --> 1:13:23
oh, we have to do what the managers tell us.

1227
1:13:23 --> 1:13:24
No, that's wrong.

1228
1:13:24 --> 1:13:26
You don't want to be working for the NHS.

1229
1:13:27 --> 1:13:29
I did email them and told them

1230
1:13:29 --> 1:13:32
they are a soul-destroying morale killer.

1231
1:13:32 --> 1:13:33
They are.

1232
1:13:33 --> 1:13:36
Absolutely good on you, Cordelia.

1233
1:13:36 --> 1:13:39
So anyway, thanks for listening.

1234
1:13:39 --> 1:13:40
Thanks, Cordelia.

1235
1:13:40 --> 1:13:43
Cordelia, if you'd like to work on the NHS,

1236
1:13:43 --> 1:13:45
I'll try and help you with that

1237
1:13:45 --> 1:13:48
and get people to help you as well.

1238
1:13:48 --> 1:13:50
Thank you.

1239
1:13:50 --> 1:13:52
Ian McDermott would help you, I'm sure.

1240
1:13:54 --> 1:13:58
Okay, Jim and then Glyn.

1241
1:14:01 --> 1:14:03
Hey, thanks very much for the presentation, that was great.

1242
1:14:04 --> 1:14:09
The issue of using this to get more information,

1243
1:14:11 --> 1:14:14
you have the opportunity to get discovery, or do you?

1244
1:14:14 --> 1:14:19
And if so, what kind of, the key is,

1245
1:14:19 --> 1:14:22
what questions you can ask to get the discovery.

1246
1:14:22 --> 1:14:26
And if they don't answer, or if they withhold information,

1247
1:14:26 --> 1:14:28
your lawyer fees get paid

1248
1:14:28 --> 1:14:30
until they turn over the information.

1249
1:14:31 --> 1:14:34
That's through, that's a,

1250
1:14:34 --> 1:14:35
that is a Supreme Court case

1251
1:14:35 --> 1:14:38
called the Goodyear versus Hagar case.

1252
1:14:39 --> 1:14:43
And the issue is that we need to show that they are,

1253
1:14:43 --> 1:14:45
they who are withholding information

1254
1:14:45 --> 1:14:47
is maybe our intelligence agencies,

1255
1:14:47 --> 1:14:50
the Department of Defense, along with Pfizer, Moderna,

1256
1:14:50 --> 1:14:54
the FDA and the CDC,

1257
1:14:54 --> 1:14:57
including how they may have weaponized

1258
1:14:57 --> 1:15:00
something called Coxiella Burnetti,

1259
1:15:00 --> 1:15:02
which has all the same symptoms and signs,

1260
1:15:02 --> 1:15:05
except for the blood clots, of COVID-19

1261
1:15:05 --> 1:15:07
for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

1262
1:15:08 --> 1:15:13
And that information was just requested via FOIA

1263
1:15:14 --> 1:15:18
by Broken Truth and other people,

1264
1:15:18 --> 1:15:20
or not just requested, two years ago it was requested.

1265
1:15:20 --> 1:15:23
They took two years to turn over the information,

1266
1:15:23 --> 1:15:25
now it's very highly redacted.

1267
1:15:25 --> 1:15:27
Coxiella Burnetti is known as

1268
1:15:28 --> 1:15:29
the International Pathogen of Mystery.

1269
1:15:30 --> 1:15:31
The reason I'm bringing all this up

1270
1:15:31 --> 1:15:35
is because the key may be in the discovery requests,

1271
1:15:35 --> 1:15:40
showing that these people who are involved in this,

1272
1:15:40 --> 1:15:43
the Department of Defense, the FDA, the CDC,

1273
1:15:43 --> 1:15:47
and the intelligence networks of what I call Six Eyes,

1274
1:15:47 --> 1:15:49
or what they call themselves Six Eyes,

1275
1:15:49 --> 1:15:52
the intelligence networks may be involved

1276
1:15:52 --> 1:15:55
and are not turning over the evidence

1277
1:15:55 --> 1:15:56
that they are involved,

1278
1:15:56 --> 1:16:00
and they may have some confidentiality issues

1279
1:16:00 --> 1:16:01
that have been approved,

1280
1:16:01 --> 1:16:02
and that's what I don't understand.

1281
1:16:02 --> 1:16:03
So good luck with the,

1282
1:16:03 --> 1:16:07
so I applaud your efforts,

1283
1:16:07 --> 1:16:08
let us know how we can help,

1284
1:16:08 --> 1:16:13
and most importantly, get the right questions to ask

1285
1:16:14 --> 1:16:16
to these people who are suing you,

1286
1:16:16 --> 1:16:20
because they should know that this is a biotera weapon.

1287
1:16:20 --> 1:16:22
They should know that this is,

1288
1:16:22 --> 1:16:24
as Stephen and everybody knows,

1289
1:16:24 --> 1:16:27
say this may be genetically specific

1290
1:16:27 --> 1:16:29
to SARS-CoV-2 spike protein,

1291
1:16:29 --> 1:16:31
and they may know who is affected and who's not affected.

1292
1:16:31 --> 1:16:33
They may know why they were preventing

1293
1:16:33 --> 1:16:36
hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and all that stuff

1294
1:16:36 --> 1:16:38
from being used like never before.

1295
1:16:38 --> 1:16:39
So thanks for your efforts.

1296
1:16:41 --> 1:16:44
Can you give us a list of questions that you've asked them,

1297
1:16:44 --> 1:16:46
and are you still allowed to ask questions?

1298
1:16:47 --> 1:16:49
Are you still allowed to submit questions?

1299
1:16:49 --> 1:16:50
Thanks.

1300
1:16:50 --> 1:16:53
So yes, I mean, that's part of our core case.

1301
1:16:53 --> 1:16:57
So it's been a whirlwind, obviously.

1302
1:16:57 --> 1:16:59
The discovery part of it is something

1303
1:16:59 --> 1:17:01
that I certainly wanna take advantage of.

1304
1:17:02 --> 1:17:07
And that is, I do have a long list of questions

1305
1:17:08 --> 1:17:10
that we have put together.

1306
1:17:10 --> 1:17:12
None of them have been submitted yet

1307
1:17:13 --> 1:17:17
as far as kind of asking for discovery

1308
1:17:17 --> 1:17:22
in terms of an actual motion for discovery.

1309
1:17:22 --> 1:17:24
Those are things that we are working on,

1310
1:17:24 --> 1:17:25
but you're absolutely right.

1311
1:17:25 --> 1:17:28
That's kind of one of the, I guess, strategies or tactics

1312
1:17:28 --> 1:17:30
that we're trying to get to is,

1313
1:17:30 --> 1:17:33
what exactly are those questions?

1314
1:17:33 --> 1:17:36
I'm in communication with Katherine Watt

1315
1:17:36 --> 1:17:41
and Sasha Latopova regarding a lot of this on their end.

1316
1:17:45 --> 1:17:49
I'm trying to compile and put it into a format

1317
1:17:49 --> 1:17:54
that will get us as much information as we need to

1318
1:17:56 --> 1:17:59
and really essentially just try to make it,

1319
1:18:02 --> 1:18:06
as long as it relates to my defense in some capacity

1320
1:18:06 --> 1:18:10
in terms of the danger of the product or everything else.

1321
1:18:10 --> 1:18:14
The government wants to keep this as a straight broadcase.

1322
1:18:14 --> 1:18:15
They gave me a product,

1323
1:18:15 --> 1:18:17
they gave me instructions on how to use it.

1324
1:18:17 --> 1:18:19
I didn't use it the way,

1325
1:18:19 --> 1:18:20
or they're alleging that I didn't use it

1326
1:18:20 --> 1:18:22
the way they want me to use it.

1327
1:18:22 --> 1:18:25
And so they don't wanna go outside of those boundaries.

1328
1:18:26 --> 1:18:31
And so it's a kind of a finesse in a sense

1329
1:18:31 --> 1:18:36
to try to get to the point where the actual efficacy

1330
1:18:38 --> 1:18:41
or what the actual product was,

1331
1:18:41 --> 1:18:42
where was it stored?

1332
1:18:42 --> 1:18:43
How was it produced?

1333
1:18:45 --> 1:18:47
Show me the temperature logs of the vaccine

1334
1:18:47 --> 1:18:49
as it was sent to me,

1335
1:18:50 --> 1:18:53
give me a list of ingredients, all of those things.

1336
1:18:53 --> 1:18:58
Show me the FDA certification of the facility

1337
1:18:58 --> 1:19:03
that the product was made in, all of those things.

1338
1:19:03 --> 1:19:05
Prove that it wasn't contaminated,

1339
1:19:05 --> 1:19:08
all of those various questions,

1340
1:19:08 --> 1:19:09
it's just a matter of what they're gonna allow us

1341
1:19:09 --> 1:19:12
to kind of bring forward.

1342
1:19:12 --> 1:19:14
Well, if you ask and they don't turn it over,

1343
1:19:14 --> 1:19:16
that's when your lawyers fees start getting paid.

1344
1:19:16 --> 1:19:21
And so I encourage you to include the Albert's information

1345
1:19:22 --> 1:19:27
about the contaminants, the DNA plasmid contaminants

1346
1:19:27 --> 1:19:30
correlating directly with the vaccine injuries.

1347
1:19:30 --> 1:19:32
And which of these vaccines have the DNA,

1348
1:19:32 --> 1:19:35
these alleged vaccines or these bio weapons

1349
1:19:35 --> 1:19:37
have the DNA plasmid contaminants?

1350
1:19:37 --> 1:19:39
And here's the secret, the plasmids,

1351
1:19:39 --> 1:19:41
the DNA plasmids don't have to be refrigerated.

1352
1:19:42 --> 1:19:47
Okay, so that's why it correlates with Albert's information.

1353
1:19:49 --> 1:19:52
The mRNA vaccine has to be refrigerated,

1354
1:19:52 --> 1:19:55
it has to be negative 70,

1355
1:19:55 --> 1:19:58
and then it has to be used within three hours of storage.

1356
1:19:58 --> 1:20:02
However, the DNA plasmids are still potent, still dangerous.

1357
1:20:02 --> 1:20:06
And I also wanna encourage you to ask

1358
1:20:06 --> 1:20:08
and subpoena information from the guy who created

1359
1:20:09 --> 1:20:11
the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in the vaccine.

1360
1:20:11 --> 1:20:16
And every vaccine, Moderna, Pfizer, as well as J&J,

1361
1:20:16 --> 1:20:18
those are the three that were included in the United States.

1362
1:20:18 --> 1:20:22
It was all created by or designed by a guy named Jason McClellan,

1363
1:20:22 --> 1:20:24
M-C, capital L-E-L-L-A-N,

1364
1:20:24 --> 1:20:26
out of the University of Texas, Austin,

1365
1:20:26 --> 1:20:28
on a supercomputer called Longhorn.

1366
1:20:30 --> 1:20:32
You need to ask him.

1367
1:20:32 --> 1:20:34
He developed the spike protein

1368
1:20:34 --> 1:20:35
that is allegedly in the vaccines

1369
1:20:35 --> 1:20:37
and he put in the prolinear strains.

1370
1:20:39 --> 1:20:40
That keep the...

1371
1:20:40 --> 1:20:42
But he did not take out the fear and cleavage site.

1372
1:20:42 --> 1:20:44
The fear and cleavage site, they know.

1373
1:20:44 --> 1:20:47
Why did they only use his design?

1374
1:20:47 --> 1:20:49
Is he an intelligence agent?

1375
1:20:50 --> 1:20:51
And once you start asking these questions

1376
1:20:51 --> 1:20:52
about the intelligence agencies and say,

1377
1:20:52 --> 1:20:55
you can't be sued until these intelligence agencies

1378
1:20:55 --> 1:20:57
come clean, that's very important.

1379
1:20:58 --> 1:21:00
And if they're not gonna come clean, you can't be sued.

1380
1:21:01 --> 1:21:02
Because they're lying.

1381
1:21:02 --> 1:21:04
The spies have to lie.

1382
1:21:05 --> 1:21:07
It's very important.

1383
1:21:07 --> 1:21:09
Anyway, we can talk later on if you need to.

1384
1:21:09 --> 1:21:10
Yeah, no, I'd love to.

1385
1:21:10 --> 1:21:13
Yeah, share your contact info, would you?

1386
1:21:13 --> 1:21:14
Thank you.

1387
1:21:14 --> 1:21:17
Or Kirk, I can help you with Jim.

1388
1:21:17 --> 1:21:18
So thanks, Jim, for that.

1389
1:21:19 --> 1:21:22
Glenn, were you next or was it Jerome then you?

1390
1:21:23 --> 1:21:26
Well, I was, but when Jerome raised his hand,

1391
1:21:26 --> 1:21:28
I wanted to hear his question before I posed mine.

1392
1:21:28 --> 1:21:30
So if you could have Jerome go first,

1393
1:21:30 --> 1:21:32
I'd like to be right after him.

1394
1:21:32 --> 1:21:32
Go ahead.

1395
1:21:34 --> 1:21:35
Thank you very much, Glenn.

1396
1:21:37 --> 1:21:40
First of all, what you've done,

1397
1:21:40 --> 1:21:43
Kirk, is remarkable and it's admirable.

1398
1:21:45 --> 1:21:47
Now the key is to win.

1399
1:21:48 --> 1:21:51
Now your lawyers can tell you to behave yourself

1400
1:21:51 --> 1:21:53
and let them handle everything.

1401
1:21:53 --> 1:21:55
And I advise you to ignore their advice.

1402
1:21:57 --> 1:22:00
What I've done on these issues is I've gone public.

1403
1:22:00 --> 1:22:01
I fought a long time.

1404
1:22:01 --> 1:22:03
They wanted to put me in prison.

1405
1:22:03 --> 1:22:06
And I did more interviews than I've ever done in my life

1406
1:22:06 --> 1:22:08
because I've talked to anybody who would talk to me,

1407
1:22:08 --> 1:22:11
including NBC, CBS, et cetera.

1408
1:22:11 --> 1:22:15
Now, you won't get on those shows with this,

1409
1:22:16 --> 1:22:19
but I don't know if you've done this or not.

1410
1:22:19 --> 1:22:21
And your lawyers are gonna not be happy

1411
1:22:21 --> 1:22:23
with you for doing it.

1412
1:22:23 --> 1:22:26
But what I would do is I would create a website immediately.

1413
1:22:26 --> 1:22:29
I would start raising money.

1414
1:22:29 --> 1:22:33
I'd start writing articles and getting them in publication.

1415
1:22:33 --> 1:22:37
I would start on X and just be outrageous.

1416
1:22:37 --> 1:22:38
You say, I would say,

1417
1:22:38 --> 1:22:41
I think the intelligence agencies are behind this.

1418
1:22:41 --> 1:22:43
I think this was a psychological operation.

1419
1:22:45 --> 1:22:47
I'm going to pursue this court case

1420
1:22:47 --> 1:22:50
in the court of the public opinion

1421
1:22:50 --> 1:22:51
in order to raise attention to the fact

1422
1:22:51 --> 1:22:55
that doctors are being coerced to inject you with poisons.

1423
1:22:57 --> 1:23:00
Now they are not gonna wanna give you a platform for that.

1424
1:23:00 --> 1:23:02
Right.

1425
1:23:02 --> 1:23:03
Okay.

1426
1:23:03 --> 1:23:06
And if you make this into that type of a platform,

1427
1:23:06 --> 1:23:08
now you will probably increase the risk

1428
1:23:08 --> 1:23:11
that your penalties will be more severe.

1429
1:23:11 --> 1:23:13
That's what they will threaten you with.

1430
1:23:13 --> 1:23:16
But at the same time, they're gonna put you in prison anyway.

1431
1:23:16 --> 1:23:17
That's what they intend to do.

1432
1:23:17 --> 1:23:20
Now, the reason they haven't done it right away

1433
1:23:20 --> 1:23:23
is because they're not sure

1434
1:23:23 --> 1:23:27
that you won't attract a bigger audience to your case

1435
1:23:27 --> 1:23:30
than they're comfortable having done.

1436
1:23:30 --> 1:23:35
But we're creating this anti-globalist alliance

1437
1:23:35 --> 1:23:39
and this is one of the cases,

1438
1:23:39 --> 1:23:42
we're making a big issue out of the pandemic

1439
1:23:42 --> 1:23:44
and the vaccine is designed to kill people.

1440
1:23:44 --> 1:23:46
This is a depopulationist effort.

1441
1:23:46 --> 1:23:51
And you've got a primary opportunity

1442
1:23:52 --> 1:23:55
to press forward the truth

1443
1:23:57 --> 1:23:59
and not be concerned about the consequences.

1444
1:24:00 --> 1:24:05
Now, the advice to raise all of these inquiries

1445
1:24:05 --> 1:24:08
and FOIA requests, you've gotta say,

1446
1:24:08 --> 1:24:10
I'm confident that the intelligence agencies

1447
1:24:10 --> 1:24:12
were behind this.

1448
1:24:12 --> 1:24:14
This was an intelligence agency operation

1449
1:24:14 --> 1:24:16
from the beginning.

1450
1:24:16 --> 1:24:18
So it's psychological operation running the American people,

1451
1:24:18 --> 1:24:20
it was designed to kill people.

1452
1:24:20 --> 1:24:24
And I want to get all the documents I can

1453
1:24:24 --> 1:24:25
to prove that there's already

1454
1:24:25 --> 1:24:28
quite a lot of documents out there.

1455
1:24:28 --> 1:24:32
You can find you'd have a very large network of people

1456
1:24:32 --> 1:24:34
who you could be on your side,

1457
1:24:34 --> 1:24:36
including Robert Kennedy Jr.

1458
1:24:37 --> 1:24:39
who has been out there against the vaccinations

1459
1:24:39 --> 1:24:44
and led the charge on the vaccinations and autism.

1460
1:24:44 --> 1:24:47
And he's assembled a large group of doctors

1461
1:24:47 --> 1:24:48
that would champion you.

1462
1:24:48 --> 1:24:51
You could connect with them on Substack.

1463
1:24:51 --> 1:24:52
You ought to create a Substack right away

1464
1:24:52 --> 1:24:54
and start telling your story on Substack.

1465
1:24:55 --> 1:24:57
But these are steps that you can take

1466
1:25:00 --> 1:25:05
to raise their risks of prosecuting you,

1467
1:25:05 --> 1:25:08
because you want to make your trial an international trial,

1468
1:25:09 --> 1:25:11
one that will be followed internationally

1469
1:25:11 --> 1:25:15
and one that will be seen internationally.

1470
1:25:15 --> 1:25:20
And you've never been given a megaphone this big.

1471
1:25:21 --> 1:25:23
And so therefore I would recommend you use it

1472
1:25:23 --> 1:25:25
every way you can.

1473
1:25:25 --> 1:25:26
We can help.

1474
1:25:27 --> 1:25:29
You need to get a website going.

1475
1:25:29 --> 1:25:31
You need to network.

1476
1:25:31 --> 1:25:32
We can start you on podcasts.

1477
1:25:32 --> 1:25:37
We can link you in with doctors that are working on this.

1478
1:25:38 --> 1:25:39
There's a whole network of them that you can find.

1479
1:25:39 --> 1:25:41
We'll get you on TNT.

1480
1:25:41 --> 1:25:43
Get you on TNT radio.

1481
1:25:44 --> 1:25:45
The whole works.

1482
1:25:46 --> 1:25:51
And we'll make it a major cause to love internationally,

1483
1:25:51 --> 1:25:54
that a doctor stood up against

1484
1:25:54 --> 1:25:57
this medical establishment and won.

1485
1:25:57 --> 1:25:59
If you didn't win in the courts,

1486
1:25:59 --> 1:26:03
you won in the moral victory of saving lives

1487
1:26:03 --> 1:26:06
and preventing people from having to submit

1488
1:26:06 --> 1:26:09
to the coercion of an oppressive government.

1489
1:26:09 --> 1:26:11
Your whole message can be,

1490
1:26:11 --> 1:26:14
if the government, if the global governments,

1491
1:26:14 --> 1:26:19
the World Health Organization can get away with COVID-19

1492
1:26:19 --> 1:26:22
and forced vaccinations of a poison,

1493
1:26:22 --> 1:26:25
what will they do next?

1494
1:26:25 --> 1:26:26
They're already talking about

1495
1:26:26 --> 1:26:29
the World Health Organization having supremacy

1496
1:26:29 --> 1:26:32
over every government's sovereignty in the world

1497
1:26:32 --> 1:26:35
to declare a pandemic because of global warming.

1498
1:26:37 --> 1:26:41
This is lying science.

1499
1:26:41 --> 1:26:43
They advanced because it was a lie.

1500
1:26:44 --> 1:26:48
It didn't accidentally find out it was a lie.

1501
1:26:48 --> 1:26:50
They knew it was a lie.

1502
1:26:50 --> 1:26:53
And they told it to you, told it to the world

1503
1:26:53 --> 1:26:55
because it's a lie.

1504
1:26:55 --> 1:26:56
That's evil.

1505
1:26:56 --> 1:26:58
Evil is not just doing something wrong.

1506
1:26:58 --> 1:27:00
Evil is doing something because it's wrong

1507
1:27:00 --> 1:27:03
and knowing it's evil, wanting to do it anyway.

1508
1:27:03 --> 1:27:05
These people, that's evil.

1509
1:27:06 --> 1:27:10
And you can charge these people with evil

1510
1:27:11 --> 1:27:13
and you'll win in the court of morality

1511
1:27:13 --> 1:27:16
and you'll win points for your soul

1512
1:27:16 --> 1:27:17
if you have to go to prison.

1513
1:27:18 --> 1:27:22
So Kirk, wonderful advice from Jerome Corsi.

1514
1:27:22 --> 1:27:25
I really recommend that you look at his C-SPAN interview,

1515
1:27:25 --> 1:27:26
sorry, speech.

1516
1:27:26 --> 1:27:29
He gives a speech to a group of people.

1517
1:27:29 --> 1:27:31
It's a wonderful interview.

1518
1:27:31 --> 1:27:35
He says amongst other things that they offered him

1519
1:27:35 --> 1:27:39
a plea deal in the Mueller investigation

1520
1:27:39 --> 1:27:43
and he says in the speech, I think,

1521
1:27:43 --> 1:27:48
that he told them that he would not lie before God

1522
1:27:48 --> 1:27:50
and he'd rather go to prison

1523
1:27:50 --> 1:27:51
if that's what they wanted to do to him.

1524
1:27:51 --> 1:27:53
And guess what they did?

1525
1:27:53 --> 1:27:55
They didn't indict him

1526
1:27:55 --> 1:27:57
because they're cowards, these people.

1527
1:27:57 --> 1:28:02
And Jerome, I hope I have misrepresented you.

1528
1:28:02 --> 1:28:02
I think that's-

1529
1:28:02 --> 1:28:03
That's very accurate.

1530
1:28:03 --> 1:28:04
Thank you, Stephen.

1531
1:28:05 --> 1:28:06
At least I say I-

1532
1:28:07 --> 1:28:12
And I think I'm right in saying that you were involved

1533
1:28:12 --> 1:28:15
in bringing HSBC to justice over money laundering

1534
1:28:15 --> 1:28:19
on behalf of the Mexican drug cartels.

1535
1:28:19 --> 1:28:20
Yes.

1536
1:28:20 --> 1:28:24
And Jerome told me recently that he figured out

1537
1:28:24 --> 1:28:27
how they did the voting fraud, figured out-

1538
1:28:27 --> 1:28:31
Yeah, we now have, I've been working with Andrew Paquette

1539
1:28:31 --> 1:28:34
who has discovered algorithms

1540
1:28:34 --> 1:28:39
into the voting registration logs of New York state

1541
1:28:39 --> 1:28:42
and about 17 other states, they're probably in every state.

1542
1:28:42 --> 1:28:45
It's a very complex National Security Administration

1543
1:28:45 --> 1:28:47
quality encryption scheme.

1544
1:28:48 --> 1:28:51
And what it does is it creates,

1545
1:28:53 --> 1:28:57
it creates whole new board of election numbers

1546
1:28:57 --> 1:29:01
for voters that have no relationship to when they registered.

1547
1:29:01 --> 1:29:04
And as such, it's a very complex scheme

1548
1:29:04 --> 1:29:08
where they can create fraudulent votes

1549
1:29:08 --> 1:29:10
and they can sort them into the deck.

1550
1:29:10 --> 1:29:12
It's like a card trick

1551
1:29:12 --> 1:29:13
where they can sort them into the deck

1552
1:29:13 --> 1:29:16
so they can deal them as fraudulent votes

1553
1:29:16 --> 1:29:17
whenever they want them.

1554
1:29:17 --> 1:29:20
They can find them, but you can't find them.

1555
1:29:20 --> 1:29:23
And there'd probably be,

1556
1:29:23 --> 1:29:28
in a 4 million database that the New York state has

1557
1:29:29 --> 1:29:30
for voter registration,

1558
1:29:30 --> 1:29:32
probably a million of the records are fraudulent

1559
1:29:32 --> 1:29:37
or potentially capable of being voted fraudulently.

1560
1:29:37 --> 1:29:40
So I'm in the process now of exposing this.

1561
1:29:40 --> 1:29:41
I wrote my first article on it,

1562
1:29:41 --> 1:29:44
submitted it last week to American Thinker.

1563
1:29:44 --> 1:29:48
And we will have this be a major national campaign,

1564
1:29:48 --> 1:29:52
God willing, in the next, between now and the election time.

1565
1:29:52 --> 1:29:55
I've just written the Anti-Globalist Manifesto.

1566
1:29:56 --> 1:29:58
We're going to war with these people.

1567
1:29:59 --> 1:30:00
Yes.

1568
1:30:00 --> 1:30:03
And you've also written the book,

1569
1:30:03 --> 1:30:05
the book on JFK assassination,

1570
1:30:05 --> 1:30:09
and people are believing you on that.

1571
1:30:09 --> 1:30:11
Not just you, but the doctor, the whistleblower doctor.

1572
1:30:11 --> 1:30:12
Yes.

1573
1:30:12 --> 1:30:16
Because Dr. Mantek, my co-author,

1574
1:30:16 --> 1:30:21
has a PhD in physics and his specialty was radiation,

1575
1:30:21 --> 1:30:25
and he studied x-rays, did a PhD thesis on x-rays,

1576
1:30:25 --> 1:30:28
then he got an MD and became a practicing radiation

1577
1:30:29 --> 1:30:32
oncologist, which he's practiced for four decades,

1578
1:30:32 --> 1:30:35
more than four decades, and he's still practicing.

1579
1:30:35 --> 1:30:39
He is doing locum tenens right now, very actively.

1580
1:30:39 --> 1:30:40
And he's brilliant.

1581
1:30:40 --> 1:30:43
He did optical density measurements of the JFK x-rays,

1582
1:30:43 --> 1:30:46
and he proved that the three that remain

1583
1:30:46 --> 1:30:49
were all forged to mask evidence of frontal shots.

1584
1:30:49 --> 1:30:52
And he identified clear evidence of two frontal shots.

1585
1:30:52 --> 1:30:53
And it's indisputable.

1586
1:30:53 --> 1:30:55
The book has been out since March 8th,

1587
1:30:55 --> 1:31:00
and no one has attempted to refute it, because they can't.

1588
1:31:00 --> 1:31:02
It's scientific evidence.

1589
1:31:02 --> 1:31:04
It's CSI quality evidence.

1590
1:31:04 --> 1:31:06
A JFK was shot twice in the front,

1591
1:31:06 --> 1:31:08
and you can see the evidence in the x-rays.

1592
1:31:08 --> 1:31:12
You can actually see one of the bullet fragment trails

1593
1:31:12 --> 1:31:13
across the top of its head that entered

1594
1:31:13 --> 1:31:16
at his forehead above his right eye.

1595
1:31:16 --> 1:31:18
And it's unmistakable.

1596
1:31:18 --> 1:31:20
What you've got is also unmistakable.

1597
1:31:20 --> 1:31:24
They will not give you the intelligence reports

1598
1:31:24 --> 1:31:27
where they knew that this was harmful.

1599
1:31:27 --> 1:31:31
You've got dozens now of reports from Pfizer, Moderna,

1600
1:31:31 --> 1:31:32
and the others being released,

1601
1:31:32 --> 1:31:36
where they suppressed the extreme events

1602
1:31:36 --> 1:31:38
that were occurring in their pre-trials.

1603
1:31:38 --> 1:31:41
They didn't conduct their pre-trials

1604
1:31:41 --> 1:31:42
according to standard procedures,

1605
1:31:42 --> 1:31:45
because they operated under emergency operation

1606
1:31:45 --> 1:31:47
or operation protocols.

1607
1:31:47 --> 1:31:50
Expose all these things.

1608
1:31:50 --> 1:31:55
Make it clear that they manufactured a bio weapon

1609
1:31:55 --> 1:31:57
where they've injected the spike protein,

1610
1:31:57 --> 1:32:02
the glycoprotein 120 of COVID-19 into your cells,

1611
1:32:04 --> 1:32:09
giving the RNA instruction to replicate the spike protein.

1612
1:32:10 --> 1:32:12
And it passes through your entire body,

1613
1:32:13 --> 1:32:17
and there's no mechanism to turn off the RNA.

1614
1:32:17 --> 1:32:20
Eventually that RNA will modify your DNA.

1615
1:32:21 --> 1:32:24
Eventually it'll kill you one way or the other,

1616
1:32:24 --> 1:32:28
depending upon your morbidity and depending upon your age.

1617
1:32:28 --> 1:32:31
It will hit your lungs or your heart,

1618
1:32:31 --> 1:32:33
or it'll form blood clots.

1619
1:32:33 --> 1:32:36
It has many different forms of action in the body.

1620
1:32:36 --> 1:32:40
And it all comes from patents that Fauci and the others held

1621
1:32:41 --> 1:32:46
at these NIH and the CDC,

1622
1:32:46 --> 1:32:48
and they get paid on these.

1623
1:32:48 --> 1:32:51
So you've got plenty to expose here,

1624
1:32:53 --> 1:32:56
and this is the best defense you can wage.

1625
1:32:56 --> 1:32:57
You will not-

1626
1:32:57 --> 1:32:58
Absolutely, and I agree.

1627
1:32:58 --> 1:33:01
So Jerome, what you're saying, I think,

1628
1:33:01 --> 1:33:03
it's not obvious to a lot of people,

1629
1:33:03 --> 1:33:06
but you have an enormous amount of power at the moment,

1630
1:33:06 --> 1:33:08
Kirk, potential power,

1631
1:33:08 --> 1:33:11
but they want to put you in prison, yes,

1632
1:33:11 --> 1:33:14
they want to put you in prison, but with minimum fuss.

1633
1:33:14 --> 1:33:18
So they're hesitating, weighing up,

1634
1:33:18 --> 1:33:19
what are the risks for them?

1635
1:33:19 --> 1:33:22
You need to increase the risks

1636
1:33:22 --> 1:33:25
by being as courageous as you possibly can.

1637
1:33:25 --> 1:33:26
We will all support you,

1638
1:33:26 --> 1:33:30
and we can find other people outside this group

1639
1:33:30 --> 1:33:32
who can support you too.

1640
1:33:32 --> 1:33:34
But we could assemble a wonderful team

1641
1:33:34 --> 1:33:36
of expert witnesses for you,

1642
1:33:36 --> 1:33:38
like Asukarit Bhakhti, Mike Eden.

1643
1:33:38 --> 1:33:40
I haven't asked them, but I'm sure they would help out,

1644
1:33:40 --> 1:33:42
and not just them.

1645
1:33:42 --> 1:33:45
Robert Malone, Peter McCalla, all these doctors,

1646
1:33:45 --> 1:33:48
Harvey Reisch, they would all come forward to support you.

1647
1:33:50 --> 1:33:50
And-

1648
1:33:50 --> 1:33:52
I appreciate that, thank you guys.

1649
1:33:52 --> 1:33:55
So I do have a website,

1650
1:33:56 --> 1:33:57
I do have a

1651
1:34:00 --> 1:34:02
Gifts and Go donation site.

1652
1:34:02 --> 1:34:05
I also have a Substack where I started writing

1653
1:34:06 --> 1:34:07
articles about my story.

1654
1:34:08 --> 1:34:12
I've kind of, it's been a struggle

1655
1:34:12 --> 1:34:15
trying to continue to write.

1656
1:34:15 --> 1:34:18
It's not a, I mean, I think I'm pretty good at it.

1657
1:34:18 --> 1:34:19
I think the two or three articles

1658
1:34:19 --> 1:34:22
that I have on my Substack are okay.

1659
1:34:22 --> 1:34:27
I just, it's not easy for me to sit down and do that.

1660
1:34:27 --> 1:34:31
It takes a long time to kind of put something out.

1661
1:34:32 --> 1:34:36
But I'll just be more diligent about doing that.

1662
1:34:36 --> 1:34:37
Last spring-

1663
1:34:38 --> 1:34:41
Advice on that is don't be a perfectionist.

1664
1:34:41 --> 1:34:42
Okay.

1665
1:34:42 --> 1:34:45
And don't make everyone in your articles

1666
1:34:45 --> 1:34:50
scholarly perfect, footnoted and medically correct.

1667
1:34:50 --> 1:34:52
Begin to say some outrageous things.

1668
1:34:52 --> 1:34:55
It's easier to just express what you're feeling.

1669
1:34:55 --> 1:34:57
This is outrageous, why are they doing this?

1670
1:34:57 --> 1:34:59
They're doing this because they're the criminals.

1671
1:34:59 --> 1:35:02
They're doing this because they know the effects.

1672
1:35:02 --> 1:35:03
You have to make strong,

1673
1:35:03 --> 1:35:07
these do not take a long or hard time to write.

1674
1:35:07 --> 1:35:08
Yeah, okay.

1675
1:35:08 --> 1:35:10
Yeah, you can write everything.

1676
1:35:10 --> 1:35:13
So I really recommend Kirk that you watch

1677
1:35:13 --> 1:35:17
and everyone on the meeting now,

1678
1:35:17 --> 1:35:20
that they watch the C-SPAN-

1679
1:35:20 --> 1:35:22
Why don't you put that in the,

1680
1:35:22 --> 1:35:24
I don't even have the URL for that myself.

1681
1:35:24 --> 1:35:25
I haven't got it with me now.

1682
1:35:25 --> 1:35:28
So can someone research that while we're talking?

1683
1:35:28 --> 1:35:30
Yeah, it was on C-SPAN.

1684
1:35:30 --> 1:35:32
I'll take a look back and see if I can find it.

1685
1:35:32 --> 1:35:35
I will give you an enormous strength, I think Kirk.

1686
1:35:37 --> 1:35:40
So I think Jerome was a wonderful example to us all there.

1687
1:35:40 --> 1:35:43
He just confronted his own government

1688
1:35:43 --> 1:35:45
and essentially made them afraid of him.

1689
1:35:46 --> 1:35:49
Well, I've been confronting them for 20 years.

1690
1:35:49 --> 1:35:53
John Kerry and Swift Boat and Obama's birth certificate.

1691
1:35:53 --> 1:35:55
We found the birth certificate

1692
1:35:55 --> 1:35:58
from which Obama's was cloned and was validated by-

1693
1:35:58 --> 1:35:59
Where was he born?

1694
1:35:59 --> 1:36:00
Jerome-

1695
1:36:00 --> 1:36:02
I don't know where he was born.

1696
1:36:02 --> 1:36:06
I don't know to be honest with you.

1697
1:36:06 --> 1:36:07
I found all kinds of things.

1698
1:36:07 --> 1:36:10
I found the records from the Hawaii,

1699
1:36:11 --> 1:36:14
in Hawaii of all the people who landed in Hawaii

1700
1:36:14 --> 1:36:16
in these years, 1960 and 61.

1701
1:36:16 --> 1:36:19
And the record from the months in which

1702
1:36:20 --> 1:36:22
Anne Dunham would have arrived,

1703
1:36:23 --> 1:36:25
where the baby could have been born,

1704
1:36:25 --> 1:36:28
those air records are all missing.

1705
1:36:28 --> 1:36:29
And I went to the archives and said,

1706
1:36:29 --> 1:36:30
why are these records missing?

1707
1:36:30 --> 1:36:31
They're the only ones missing.

1708
1:36:31 --> 1:36:34
They wrote me a letter explaining that those were missing.

1709
1:36:34 --> 1:36:34
They didn't have them.

1710
1:36:34 --> 1:36:36
Somebody removed the records.

1711
1:36:37 --> 1:36:39
And that's clearly indication to me

1712
1:36:39 --> 1:36:41
of an intelligence operation.

1713
1:36:41 --> 1:36:43
I think he was born in Indonesia myself.

1714
1:36:43 --> 1:36:45
I think he's Indonesian, not African.

1715
1:36:47 --> 1:36:50
I think he is Sabud.

1716
1:36:50 --> 1:36:52
I've got to research Sabud and look him up.

1717
1:36:52 --> 1:36:54
The pictures of Sabud and Obama

1718
1:36:54 --> 1:36:58
are almost frighteningly identical.

1719
1:36:58 --> 1:37:01
But let me see if I can find the C-span.

1720
1:37:01 --> 1:37:04
So that could make him a Muslim.

1721
1:37:05 --> 1:37:08
He did attend school in Indonesia,

1722
1:37:08 --> 1:37:09
registered as a Muslim.

1723
1:37:09 --> 1:37:11
We did find those records.

1724
1:37:11 --> 1:37:12
Wow.

1725
1:37:12 --> 1:37:15
I published a lot on Obama over the years

1726
1:37:15 --> 1:37:19
and his entire story is like a CIA legend.

1727
1:37:19 --> 1:37:21
Nothing he says about himself is true.

1728
1:37:21 --> 1:37:24
All the stuff he wrote in dreams for my father,

1729
1:37:24 --> 1:37:26
it's all made up, it's all fantasy.

1730
1:37:26 --> 1:37:27
Wow.

1731
1:37:28 --> 1:37:30
He wasn't.

1732
1:37:30 --> 1:37:32
Okay, but I'll look for this and I'll come back.

1733
1:37:32 --> 1:37:34
That's everything I have.

1734
1:37:34 --> 1:37:35
Can I ask you?

1735
1:37:35 --> 1:37:37
Yeah, I don't need to take up any more time.

1736
1:37:37 --> 1:37:38
There's others with questions, yes.

1737
1:37:38 --> 1:37:42
Jerome, we'd really like to hear about the voting fraud

1738
1:37:42 --> 1:37:45
and other stuff that you've touched on now.

1739
1:37:45 --> 1:37:47
And I've got a slot on Tuesday.

1740
1:37:47 --> 1:37:49
Are you able to fill it or not?

1741
1:37:49 --> 1:37:53
Yes, I think, let me see if I can get Andrew Paquette

1742
1:37:53 --> 1:37:55
to agree to be the guest.

1743
1:37:55 --> 1:37:58
And I'll ask him, we'll take the slot on Tuesday.

1744
1:37:58 --> 1:38:00
Who's Andrew Paquette?

1745
1:38:00 --> 1:38:02
He's the guy who figured it out.

1746
1:38:02 --> 1:38:04
Oh, right, okay, very good.

1747
1:38:04 --> 1:38:06
Yes, that'd be great, Jerome.

1748
1:38:06 --> 1:38:10
So this Tuesday in two days time is free at the moment.

1749
1:38:10 --> 1:38:12
Okay, well, I'll set up to take it.

1750
1:38:12 --> 1:38:13
Okay, thank you.

1751
1:38:14 --> 1:38:15
All right, Glenn.

1752
1:38:20 --> 1:38:21
Hi, Kurt.

1753
1:38:22 --> 1:38:26
First off, we clearly, well, it seems to me

1754
1:38:26 --> 1:38:30
we are dealing with a fully weaponized government

1755
1:38:30 --> 1:38:30
at this point.

1756
1:38:31 --> 1:38:33
Do you disagree with that in any fashion?

1757
1:38:33 --> 1:38:35
No, not at all.

1758
1:38:35 --> 1:38:39
And if the current government stays in place

1759
1:38:40 --> 1:38:44
past this election, that there's probably no hope

1760
1:38:44 --> 1:38:46
for you avoiding jail.

1761
1:38:46 --> 1:38:47
Would you agree with that?

1762
1:38:47 --> 1:38:49
I wouldn't.

1763
1:38:49 --> 1:38:50
Okay, so.

1764
1:38:52 --> 1:38:53
And when you speak to the current government,

1765
1:38:53 --> 1:38:55
you're talking about the current administration.

1766
1:38:55 --> 1:38:58
I'm talking about the current Biden administration, yes.

1767
1:38:58 --> 1:38:59
Okay.

1768
1:39:04 --> 1:39:06
They've clearly completely distorted everything

1769
1:39:06 --> 1:39:10
around how trials are done, how law is applied,

1770
1:39:10 --> 1:39:14
how judges operate because they've bought them out.

1771
1:39:14 --> 1:39:15
Right.

1772
1:39:15 --> 1:39:18
And there are explicit contracts in place.

1773
1:39:18 --> 1:39:22
And while Jerome will talk about it being

1774
1:39:22 --> 1:39:25
intelligent operations, I'm gonna be more specific.

1775
1:39:25 --> 1:39:28
We agree around it being the evil elite.

1776
1:39:28 --> 1:39:32
I'm just very specific in saying it's George Soros

1777
1:39:33 --> 1:39:36
in combination with the Rockefeller family.

1778
1:39:36 --> 1:39:38
That they're at the top of it all,

1779
1:39:38 --> 1:39:40
and they drive everything.

1780
1:39:40 --> 1:39:45
So yes, there's a variety of intel that are complicit in it,

1781
1:39:45 --> 1:39:47
but they aren't driving this bus.

1782
1:39:48 --> 1:39:50
George Soros is driving this bus.

1783
1:39:50 --> 1:39:55
And they know that a new administration,

1784
1:39:55 --> 1:40:00
a righteous one based on President Trump,

1785
1:40:00 --> 1:40:03
will completely dismantle a network

1786
1:40:03 --> 1:40:06
that they've been putting together for over 150 years.

1787
1:40:06 --> 1:40:10
So they are gonna put every single weapon they have,

1788
1:40:11 --> 1:40:13
tens of billions, if not hitting toward trillions,

1789
1:40:13 --> 1:40:15
to prevent that from happening.

1790
1:40:16 --> 1:40:21
So I agree with Jerome saying the only hope is around

1791
1:40:23 --> 1:40:26
raising the awareness and getting people to join in.

1792
1:40:26 --> 1:40:30
And to some extent, with things you do,

1793
1:40:30 --> 1:40:32
joining in with other things.

1794
1:40:32 --> 1:40:35
And that some part of that really needs to be thinking

1795
1:40:35 --> 1:40:39
in terms of how do we get to November?

1796
1:40:39 --> 1:40:42
How do we actually get an election to occur?

1797
1:40:42 --> 1:40:47
And that's the space that the team I'm in,

1798
1:40:47 --> 1:40:49
the American Patriot Civil Defense Net

1799
1:40:49 --> 1:40:54
is doing a lot of focused work around enabling the public

1800
1:40:55 --> 1:40:57
to get involved and to start working

1801
1:40:57 --> 1:40:59
with their local law enforcement.

1802
1:40:59 --> 1:41:00
That if they don't start going

1803
1:41:00 --> 1:41:02
and talking to their police chiefs,

1804
1:41:02 --> 1:41:05
if they don't start going and talking to their board of eds

1805
1:41:05 --> 1:41:08
around the safety level of their school,

1806
1:41:09 --> 1:41:12
the safety level of their school,

1807
1:41:12 --> 1:41:14
they don't talk to their selectman,

1808
1:41:15 --> 1:41:17
they're going to be in the same boat

1809
1:41:17 --> 1:41:20
as everything else that's going on.

1810
1:41:20 --> 1:41:24
And that the United States will lose its last chance

1811
1:41:24 --> 1:41:25
of having a righteous government

1812
1:41:25 --> 1:41:29
and then be stuck in the same corrupt system

1813
1:41:29 --> 1:41:32
that the rest of the English speaking world is in.

1814
1:41:33 --> 1:41:38
So I point this out in part,

1815
1:41:40 --> 1:41:43
too often people get sort of settled

1816
1:41:43 --> 1:41:45
into their comfort zone

1817
1:41:45 --> 1:41:48
and the things that they know they can do well,

1818
1:41:48 --> 1:41:49
they try to stay with them.

1819
1:41:50 --> 1:41:51
And as Jerome has said,

1820
1:41:51 --> 1:41:54
I think this is the time we have to be breaking out

1821
1:41:54 --> 1:41:57
and we have to do some extra things

1822
1:41:57 --> 1:42:01
that don't necessarily fit our best skills

1823
1:42:02 --> 1:42:06
but are the only things that can in fact save us.

1824
1:42:06 --> 1:42:09
So a couple of weeks ago,

1825
1:42:10 --> 1:42:12
Jim Thorpe was on

1826
1:42:12 --> 1:42:17
and I advised him that just following through

1827
1:42:17 --> 1:42:19
with some of the medical things that he has done

1828
1:42:19 --> 1:42:24
and the attack on women in fertility in humanity,

1829
1:42:25 --> 1:42:28
while that's a very noble task,

1830
1:42:28 --> 1:42:31
it's one that he can't actually make any headway

1831
1:42:31 --> 1:42:34
unless we get a change of government.

1832
1:42:34 --> 1:42:36
And as such, I was encouraging him

1833
1:42:36 --> 1:42:40
to try to refocus his attention

1834
1:42:40 --> 1:42:44
either with helping to join into that effort

1835
1:42:44 --> 1:42:49
to make sure that we get a reasonable election this year

1836
1:42:49 --> 1:42:50
so that in fact we can have a government

1837
1:42:50 --> 1:42:52
we can work with next year

1838
1:42:52 --> 1:42:55
where many, many, many follow through things can happen then.

1839
1:42:55 --> 1:42:57
He got back to me a few days later and said,

1840
1:42:57 --> 1:43:01
no, sorry, that doesn't seem to my area of focus.

1841
1:43:01 --> 1:43:04
And he's clearly a very righteous man.

1842
1:43:05 --> 1:43:08
I've known him for several years.

1843
1:43:08 --> 1:43:11
I can just say he's controlled.

1844
1:43:11 --> 1:43:13
He's mind controlled.

1845
1:43:13 --> 1:43:15
And as are so many other people

1846
1:43:15 --> 1:43:19
that we would characterize as we feel are aware

1847
1:43:19 --> 1:43:21
and are awake to a variety of the things,

1848
1:43:21 --> 1:43:22
but not to all of them.

1849
1:43:22 --> 1:43:25
And as such, too many people, again,

1850
1:43:25 --> 1:43:28
get stuck in their comfort zone

1851
1:43:28 --> 1:43:29
and aren't ready to break out of it

1852
1:43:29 --> 1:43:31
because this is that moment.

1853
1:43:31 --> 1:43:34
This is that spiritual turning point.

1854
1:43:34 --> 1:43:38
This is the same kind of thing as the book of Esther,

1855
1:43:38 --> 1:43:41
where Esther had to, I mean, she was a queen.

1856
1:43:41 --> 1:43:44
She didn't have to risk her own life

1857
1:43:44 --> 1:43:47
to save the rest of the Jews.

1858
1:43:47 --> 1:43:48
She was a queen.

1859
1:43:48 --> 1:43:48
She was a queen.

1860
1:43:49 --> 1:43:53
To save the rest of the Jews, but she did.

1861
1:43:53 --> 1:43:56
And she went in and twice risked her life.

1862
1:43:56 --> 1:44:00
Once just challenging the king the first time

1863
1:44:00 --> 1:44:05
and then second time once he had some degree of favor

1864
1:44:05 --> 1:44:08
indicating to her who the actual evil ones were

1865
1:44:08 --> 1:44:13
so that they both could be blocked

1866
1:44:13 --> 1:44:15
from having extra control from the king

1867
1:44:15 --> 1:44:18
and to give the Jews the opportunity

1868
1:44:18 --> 1:44:21
to actually battle directly against them.

1869
1:44:22 --> 1:44:24
Okay, thank you, Glenn.

1870
1:44:24 --> 1:44:25
Well said.

1871
1:44:27 --> 1:44:28
Anders, then Marv.

1872
1:44:30 --> 1:44:31
Good speech, Glenn.

1873
1:44:34 --> 1:44:37
Yes, hello, Kirk.

1874
1:44:40 --> 1:44:42
I don't know you don't me.

1875
1:44:42 --> 1:44:44
I'm a Norwegian researcher.

1876
1:44:44 --> 1:44:47
I spend a lot of time to try to figure out

1877
1:44:48 --> 1:44:52
what caused the excess mortality.

1878
1:44:52 --> 1:44:56
And I found that there are two main causes.

1879
1:44:56 --> 1:44:59
It's a vaccination of the Jabs

1880
1:44:59 --> 1:45:02
and it's also the radiation like Mark Steele said.

1881
1:45:02 --> 1:45:07
And I sent you an email with the, let's say, documentation

1882
1:45:09 --> 1:45:11
with a lot of references,

1883
1:45:11 --> 1:45:14
which if you might use it in the court case.

1884
1:45:14 --> 1:45:17
So I didn't send you everything,

1885
1:45:17 --> 1:45:22
but let's say it has been established now as a fact

1886
1:45:22 --> 1:45:27
that these Jabs contains a lot of ingredients

1887
1:45:27 --> 1:45:30
which is not supposed to be there or told to be there

1888
1:45:30 --> 1:45:34
including graphene, titanium

1889
1:45:34 --> 1:45:39
and about 28 to 50 different chemicals.

1890
1:45:39 --> 1:45:41
And these are most of them

1891
1:45:42 --> 1:45:44
having a positive surface charge.

1892
1:45:44 --> 1:45:46
They are electric materials

1893
1:45:46 --> 1:45:51
and they are developing into antennas, electrical antennas

1894
1:45:52 --> 1:45:56
which are causing radiation damage.

1895
1:45:56 --> 1:45:59
And my research established that evidence

1896
1:45:59 --> 1:46:03
that those who live in the rural places

1897
1:46:03 --> 1:46:06
without the radiation, they do not die.

1898
1:46:06 --> 1:46:09
If they are 80 plus, for example,

1899
1:46:11 --> 1:46:15
during the COVID era, unless they put on the 5G.

1900
1:46:15 --> 1:46:20
So these are, let's say targeted weapons systems,

1901
1:46:20 --> 1:46:22
biological, synthetical,

1902
1:46:22 --> 1:46:27
and these are correlated to these poisons

1903
1:46:27 --> 1:46:31
and these poisoning are described what it is.

1904
1:46:31 --> 1:46:34
And we are now doing some clinical research

1905
1:46:34 --> 1:46:38
with a double-blinded study and we are going into

1906
1:46:38 --> 1:46:41
and we are unfortunately finding that these toxins

1907
1:46:41 --> 1:46:45
are not just in the blood of the Vax

1908
1:46:45 --> 1:46:48
but also in a lot of others coming from other sources.

1909
1:46:48 --> 1:46:53
So please have a look into my email.

1910
1:46:55 --> 1:47:00
It's a document about 25 pages including references.

1911
1:47:00 --> 1:47:04
And I don't want to go into the virus discussion here

1912
1:47:04 --> 1:47:08
but there are references there into that subject as well.

1913
1:47:08 --> 1:47:13
And there are Stefan Lanker last year

1914
1:47:13 --> 1:47:18
won a German court case about that there is no evidence

1915
1:47:18 --> 1:47:21
of these virus effects.

1916
1:47:21 --> 1:47:25
And it was a new study recently here

1917
1:47:25 --> 1:47:29
where these are confirmed, let's say in a new American study

1918
1:47:29 --> 1:47:33
that the control group of the,

1919
1:47:33 --> 1:47:37
just a study of control groups proves that these

1920
1:47:38 --> 1:47:43
so-called spike proteins or different types of viruses

1921
1:47:43 --> 1:47:48
are appearing without entering any foreign material.

1922
1:47:48 --> 1:47:51
So I just mentioning that.

1923
1:47:51 --> 1:47:56
So obviously these injections had no purpose of any good.

1924
1:47:57 --> 1:48:02
We know that there is a court case in USA,

1925
1:48:02 --> 1:48:07
week or two ago, which says that there is no Pfizer,

1926
1:48:07 --> 1:48:10
et cetera, never claimed that they were going to prevent

1927
1:48:10 --> 1:48:13
the spread of the virus or whatever.

1928
1:48:13 --> 1:48:18
So I was sitting here with my brother and chatting

1929
1:48:18 --> 1:48:22
and let's say it's kind of incredible situation

1930
1:48:22 --> 1:48:25
incredible situation everywhere in Norway,

1931
1:48:25 --> 1:48:30
in Sweden, in Germany, the doctors who are taken to court

1932
1:48:30 --> 1:48:33
are those who are the honest ones and the criminal ones,

1933
1:48:33 --> 1:48:37
almost all others, they are off the hook.

1934
1:48:39 --> 1:48:43
The one doctor in Sicily in my hometown

1935
1:48:43 --> 1:48:46
who gave the third and lethal injection to my mother

1936
1:48:46 --> 1:48:49
in September, 2021, he's off.

1937
1:48:50 --> 1:48:54
The guy who gave the second Pfizer shot to my best friend

1938
1:48:54 --> 1:48:58
who got the brain stroke three days after he's off.

1939
1:48:58 --> 1:49:01
And they come up with explanations that they have a,

1940
1:49:01 --> 1:49:04
didn't take the blood thinner or whatever.

1941
1:49:04 --> 1:49:05
Yes.

1942
1:49:05 --> 1:49:06
So I'm just saying it.

1943
1:49:06 --> 1:49:11
My best friend, he took the third, the second Pfizer shot.

1944
1:49:11 --> 1:49:16
He held his mobile phone to his ears outside his house

1945
1:49:16 --> 1:49:18
and he's falling down, getting a stroke.

1946
1:49:20 --> 1:49:23
The third day after the Pfizer shot,

1947
1:49:23 --> 1:49:25
having the phone to the head.

1948
1:49:27 --> 1:49:29
So we have a lot of evidence

1949
1:49:30 --> 1:49:35
and these shots are electromagnetic devices.

1950
1:49:37 --> 1:49:42
The LED light, the street light, the car light,

1951
1:49:42 --> 1:49:47
the electric cars, all type of radiation,

1952
1:49:48 --> 1:49:52
low, medium, high frequencies are interacting

1953
1:49:52 --> 1:49:55
with these magnetic materials,

1954
1:49:55 --> 1:50:00
which are the causation of so many harm.

1955
1:50:00 --> 1:50:03
It is not, I don't believe in this story

1956
1:50:03 --> 1:50:04
with the spike protein.

1957
1:50:04 --> 1:50:05
It's dead cells.

1958
1:50:05 --> 1:50:06
Hang on, Anders, Anders, Anders.

1959
1:50:06 --> 1:50:09
What is the point of Kirk's position?

1960
1:50:10 --> 1:50:12
Please look into the evidence.

1961
1:50:12 --> 1:50:15
If you have questions, I have a lot more.

1962
1:50:15 --> 1:50:18
You need all the evidence you can have

1963
1:50:18 --> 1:50:20
to prove that you did the right thing

1964
1:50:20 --> 1:50:21
not to give this shit.

1965
1:50:23 --> 1:50:25
Nicely, that's what I nicely said.

1966
1:50:25 --> 1:50:27
You did the right thing not to give this shit.

1967
1:50:28 --> 1:50:30
Okay, thank you, Anders.

1968
1:50:30 --> 1:50:32
So Anders is another resource for you, Kirk,

1969
1:50:32 --> 1:50:33
in terms of the dangers.

1970
1:50:33 --> 1:50:34
Let's move on to-

1971
1:50:34 --> 1:50:35
Yeah, I'll look for my emails.

1972
1:50:35 --> 1:50:37
I've had a lot of people tell me that they've emailed me

1973
1:50:37 --> 1:50:42
and I've been trying to keep track of the chat as well

1974
1:50:42 --> 1:50:45
to not have to go back through it

1975
1:50:45 --> 1:50:47
to try to find everybody's, but thank you.

1976
1:50:48 --> 1:50:49
Thank you, Anders.

1977
1:50:49 --> 1:50:51
Okay, Marv and then Stephen, we'll go to you.

1978
1:50:51 --> 1:50:53
We've got half an hour left.

1979
1:50:53 --> 1:50:56
Hey, yeah, way to go, Kirk.

1980
1:50:56 --> 1:50:58
I spent in the 60s,

1981
1:50:58 --> 1:51:02
I was in a University of Utah graduate school

1982
1:51:02 --> 1:51:05
and I discovered Utah skiing and dropped out.

1983
1:51:05 --> 1:51:10
Where is your, where and when is your training

1984
1:51:10 --> 1:51:11
and what are you charged with?

1985
1:51:11 --> 1:51:13
Is it fraud?

1986
1:51:13 --> 1:51:15
Is that one count of fraud?

1987
1:51:15 --> 1:51:20
So it's, well, it's 1,936 or 37 counts of fraud,

1988
1:51:21 --> 1:51:25
conspiracy because it was three or four of us

1989
1:51:25 --> 1:51:30
that were involved in it and counterfeiting.

1990
1:51:30 --> 1:51:35
So it's 18 USC 371 and then 18 USC 271.

1991
1:51:35 --> 1:51:40
371 and then 18 USC 641 and 642.

1992
1:51:46 --> 1:51:49
And it's in January, your trials in January?

1993
1:51:49 --> 1:51:52
January 15th is the scheduled trial date right now, yes.

1994
1:51:54 --> 1:51:59
And Marv, just one second, did you hear Len's comment,

1995
1:52:00 --> 1:52:04
which was quite interesting, Kirk,

1996
1:52:04 --> 1:52:05
I don't know whether you were here

1997
1:52:05 --> 1:52:07
when Glenn made the comment

1998
1:52:07 --> 1:52:10
that there's going to be procedural applications

1999
1:52:10 --> 1:52:11
left, right and center.

2000
1:52:11 --> 1:52:14
They, you know, that I don't want this actually

2001
1:52:14 --> 1:52:15
to go to trial, but anyway, keep going, Marv.

2002
1:52:15 --> 1:52:17
I just thought I'd repeat that

2003
1:52:17 --> 1:52:20
because I think that's a very interesting angle.

2004
1:52:21 --> 1:52:24
Yeah, is it in Salt Lake City?

2005
1:52:24 --> 1:52:24
Yes.

2006
1:52:24 --> 1:52:25
Yeah.

2007
1:52:27 --> 1:52:28
Thanks.

2008
1:52:28 --> 1:52:29
You put it in your diary, Marv.

2009
1:52:34 --> 1:52:36
Have another skiing trip.

2010
1:52:37 --> 1:52:39
Yeah, you could have another ski.

2011
1:52:39 --> 1:52:41
Give Utah a chance, Marv.

2012
1:52:43 --> 1:52:44
All right.

2013
1:52:44 --> 1:52:46
So Stephen, next 15 minutes is yours.

2014
1:52:48 --> 1:52:53
Yeah, so Kirk, please don't say anything

2015
1:52:55 --> 1:53:00
that might prejudice your safety in this criminal trial.

2016
1:53:00 --> 1:53:04
So, but I just wondered if you could maybe,

2017
1:53:07 --> 1:53:09
you said, you kind of suggested

2018
1:53:09 --> 1:53:11
that maybe it wasn't in your interest.

2019
1:53:11 --> 1:53:13
And I took that to mean that you were worried,

2020
1:53:13 --> 1:53:17
not for yourself, but worried for, you know,

2021
1:53:17 --> 1:53:21
future lawyers, maybe that you felt

2022
1:53:21 --> 1:53:23
that you didn't want to talk

2023
1:53:23 --> 1:53:25
about how the situation came about.

2024
1:53:27 --> 1:53:28
Would I be right in thinking that

2025
1:53:29 --> 1:53:34
or are you able to discuss?

2026
1:53:34 --> 1:53:38
So for me, so I want to believe

2027
1:53:40 --> 1:53:45
that you tried to persuade as many people as possible

2028
1:53:46 --> 1:53:47
not to have the jab,

2029
1:53:47 --> 1:53:50
that some of them were absolutely adamant,

2030
1:53:50 --> 1:53:52
even amongst your patients,

2031
1:53:52 --> 1:53:54
even when you told them that it was dangerous

2032
1:53:54 --> 1:53:55
and all the rest of it, you know,

2033
1:53:55 --> 1:53:57
they were adamant that they wanted the jab.

2034
1:53:57 --> 1:54:01
And you thought, I don't know,

2035
1:54:01 --> 1:54:04
you don't have to tell me what,

2036
1:54:04 --> 1:54:06
but you thought to yourself, well,

2037
1:54:06 --> 1:54:10
if some of them don't have the jab, you know,

2038
1:54:10 --> 1:54:13
but I've told them obviously that I wouldn't recommend it

2039
1:54:13 --> 1:54:15
and they still want it, you know,

2040
1:54:17 --> 1:54:19
but you thought to yourself that in the long run,

2041
1:54:19 --> 1:54:22
maybe you could help more people

2042
1:54:22 --> 1:54:26
by taking that as a hit, you know?

2043
1:54:26 --> 1:54:29
So the possibility of criticism in the future

2044
1:54:29 --> 1:54:34
that you could help more people who didn't want,

2045
1:54:34 --> 1:54:36
they were the ones who really needed protection,

2046
1:54:36 --> 1:54:40
the ones who didn't want to go along with this nonsense

2047
1:54:40 --> 1:54:42
and felt really, really strongly about it.

2048
1:54:42 --> 1:54:46
So, and especially when you told them that nobody knew,

2049
1:54:46 --> 1:54:48
no doctor in the world knew what was in the jabs

2050
1:54:48 --> 1:54:51
and I worked that out very quickly.

2051
1:54:51 --> 1:54:55
And so I was saying that there was no possibility

2052
1:54:55 --> 1:54:58
of informed consent being obtained by any doctor

2053
1:54:58 --> 1:55:01
in the world because the patient couldn't possibly say

2054
1:55:01 --> 1:55:05
that he was informed and no doctor could either.

2055
1:55:05 --> 1:55:10
So in my mind, it seems to me that you couldn't have done

2056
1:55:10 --> 1:55:14
what you did helping the people who didn't,

2057
1:55:14 --> 1:55:16
who really didn't want it.

2058
1:55:16 --> 1:55:19
And that's why they came to you, a lot of them, presumably.

2059
1:55:19 --> 1:55:22
You couldn't help them if you didn't take the hit

2060
1:55:23 --> 1:55:27
and look as though you were going to give the jabs.

2061
1:55:29 --> 1:55:34
And, but then you, and then your clinic

2062
1:55:34 --> 1:55:39
and possibly ended up injecting these people.

2063
1:55:40 --> 1:55:43
But I can see that you needed the kind of,

2064
1:55:43 --> 1:55:46
because if you didn't do that, then you had no cover

2065
1:55:46 --> 1:55:47
and you'd be blown out of the wall.

2066
1:55:47 --> 1:55:50
You wouldn't be able to help as many people as you did.

2067
1:55:50 --> 1:55:51
So is that a fair assessment

2068
1:55:51 --> 1:55:54
without you saying anything or not?

2069
1:55:55 --> 1:56:00
Yes, it was basically an opportunity for patients of mine

2070
1:56:08 --> 1:56:13
to get a treatment or not a treatment based upon

2071
1:56:16 --> 1:56:18
what their perceived risks were

2072
1:56:18 --> 1:56:22
and my perceived risk and benefits were regarding

2073
1:56:22 --> 1:56:27
the medication or the vaccine or the bio-weapon.

2074
1:56:28 --> 1:56:33
And it was, nobody got a treatment that they didn't want

2075
1:56:39 --> 1:56:41
or that they didn't agree with.

2076
1:56:42 --> 1:56:47
And nobody had any complications from coming in

2077
1:56:47 --> 1:56:49
to see me in my office.

2078
1:56:50 --> 1:56:51
Yep.

2079
1:56:51 --> 1:56:55
I guess that's kind of the best way that I can.

2080
1:56:56 --> 1:57:00
But you can see what Jerry was kind of focusing on.

2081
1:57:00 --> 1:57:04
He was saying in his mind, it was wrong to give,

2082
1:57:04 --> 1:57:05
yeah, I can see that.

2083
1:57:07 --> 1:57:10
But actually it seems to me that you couldn't have helped

2084
1:57:10 --> 1:57:12
as many people as you did help.

2085
1:57:13 --> 1:57:17
If even after you had told them that,

2086
1:57:17 --> 1:57:19
look, we don't know what's in these things,

2087
1:57:19 --> 1:57:20
they could be dangerous,

2088
1:57:20 --> 1:57:22
and we don't even know that they work

2089
1:57:24 --> 1:57:26
and there's all this censorship.

2090
1:57:26 --> 1:57:30
And you could have kind of told them what you knew

2091
1:57:30 --> 1:57:33
and still they wanted it because they were in a cult.

2092
1:57:33 --> 1:57:36
And so you could argue, well, what do I do now?

2093
1:57:36 --> 1:57:38
What's the ethical thing to do?

2094
1:57:38 --> 1:57:41
And I can see there's a real moral dilemma there

2095
1:57:41 --> 1:57:43
because actually if you say, right,

2096
1:57:43 --> 1:57:45
I'm not gonna inject anybody,

2097
1:57:45 --> 1:57:48
then bang, away goes the opportunity

2098
1:57:48 --> 1:57:49
to help all these people

2099
1:57:49 --> 1:57:53
who really, really don't want to be vaccinated.

2100
1:57:53 --> 1:57:55
And that would include people like me

2101
1:57:56 --> 1:57:58
and many others in this group.

2102
1:58:04 --> 1:58:07
I can see that there's a huge moral dilemma.

2103
1:58:07 --> 1:58:09
We can explore it another time

2104
1:58:09 --> 1:58:11
when we haven't got an indictment hanging over you.

2105
1:58:14 --> 1:58:19
Yeah, it's just a fine line of discussion

2106
1:58:21 --> 1:58:25
of kind of exactly, I see exactly what Jerry's saying.

2107
1:58:26 --> 1:58:31
And I was not in any way, shape or form offended by him

2108
1:58:33 --> 1:58:35
kind of asking those questions.

2109
1:58:35 --> 1:58:35
Yeah, I understand.

2110
1:58:35 --> 1:58:38
And so I think also that he was suggesting

2111
1:58:39 --> 1:58:43
that you were a plastic surgeon.

2112
1:58:43 --> 1:58:48
So how did you come to be putting yourself out as a GP?

2113
1:58:48 --> 1:58:51
But I can absolutely understand that

2114
1:58:51 --> 1:58:54
because people were desperate to speak to any doctor

2115
1:58:54 --> 1:58:59
who they perceived to be trustworthy onside or whatever.

2116
1:58:59 --> 1:59:01
And these were extraordinary times.

2117
1:59:01 --> 1:59:04
It's not every day that the world is,

2118
1:59:05 --> 1:59:08
well, there was a global coup d'etat in March, 2020.

2119
1:59:09 --> 1:59:12
And that's absolutely, and it was definitely planned.

2120
1:59:13 --> 1:59:18
So they used the Trojan horse of a medical emergency

2121
1:59:19 --> 1:59:22
when there was no emergency to impose.

2122
1:59:22 --> 1:59:24
To me-

2123
1:59:24 --> 1:59:27
To impose totalitarianism, that's how I read it.

2124
1:59:27 --> 1:59:28
Yeah, to me, Stephen, this was an extension

2125
1:59:28 --> 1:59:30
of what it was that I was already doing.

2126
1:59:30 --> 1:59:33
I was one of the only docs or one of the very few

2127
1:59:33 --> 1:59:36
that I knew of that were actually treating people

2128
1:59:37 --> 1:59:39
pre-hospitalization.

2129
1:59:39 --> 1:59:42
I wasn't somebody, I wasn't doing any testing.

2130
1:59:42 --> 1:59:45
I wasn't sending anybody down to get a nasal swab.

2131
1:59:45 --> 1:59:47
I was talking to people on the phone.

2132
1:59:47 --> 1:59:49
I was getting emails from people.

2133
1:59:49 --> 1:59:51
I was having people come into my office

2134
1:59:51 --> 1:59:54
and I was treating them based upon symptoms,

2135
1:59:54 --> 1:59:56
which is what I'd always done in the past.

2136
1:59:57 --> 2:00:01
And the only difference is that now I'm treating people

2137
2:00:01 --> 2:00:06
for signs and symptoms and concerns that they had

2138
2:00:11 --> 2:00:16
regarding a flu-like illness, which in some capacity,

2139
2:00:17 --> 2:00:20
as you know, you always get that.

2140
2:00:20 --> 2:00:23
You have your, your sister will call you up and say,

2141
2:00:23 --> 2:00:24
hey, I got a throat infection.

2142
2:00:24 --> 2:00:26
Will you get me some antibiotics?

2143
2:00:26 --> 2:00:28
And it was kind of an extension of that.

2144
2:00:28 --> 2:00:31
The only difference is that I was treating

2145
2:00:31 --> 2:00:34
hundreds of people because nobody else was treating them.

2146
2:00:34 --> 2:00:39
And so they were coming to me because so and so's

2147
2:00:39 --> 2:00:42
sister's neighbor came to me and told them.

2148
2:00:42 --> 2:00:46
And so they would contact me via group me or phone call

2149
2:00:46 --> 2:00:49
or text message or come into my office.

2150
2:00:49 --> 2:00:52
And so the COVID side of it or the jab side of it,

2151
2:00:52 --> 2:00:56
the bioweapon, the quote unquote vaccine,

2152
2:00:56 --> 2:00:57
it's not a vaccine.

2153
2:00:57 --> 2:01:00
And our ninth circuit just came out with that

2154
2:01:00 --> 2:01:02
and said that this is not a vaccine.

2155
2:01:03 --> 2:01:04
It's a medical treatment.

2156
2:01:06 --> 2:01:07
And so.

2157
2:01:07 --> 2:01:08
And you did help them.

2158
2:01:08 --> 2:01:10
You didn't turn them away.

2159
2:01:10 --> 2:01:11
And that.

2160
2:01:11 --> 2:01:12
No, I didn't turn anybody away.

2161
2:01:13 --> 2:01:17
So you did what you provided comfort to these people

2162
2:01:17 --> 2:01:20
who needed advice, medical advice.

2163
2:01:20 --> 2:01:22
And that's exactly what a doctor should be doing.

2164
2:01:22 --> 2:01:25
He should be, you treated the patient in front of you

2165
2:01:25 --> 2:01:27
and you didn't dilute it in any way.

2166
2:01:27 --> 2:01:29
And whether you were right or wrong,

2167
2:01:29 --> 2:01:32
that's not the question because you're a plastic surgeon.

2168
2:01:32 --> 2:01:35
Yeah, you did qualify as a doctor once upon a time,

2169
2:01:35 --> 2:01:40
but you could be forgiven for getting things wrong

2170
2:01:40 --> 2:01:41
because you hadn't got the experience.

2171
2:01:41 --> 2:01:43
And you probably realized as well as I did

2172
2:01:43 --> 2:01:46
that doctors shouldn't be following protocols

2173
2:01:46 --> 2:01:48
and guidelines like they have been doing.

2174
2:01:48 --> 2:01:51
And that's exactly, you can't.

2175
2:01:51 --> 2:01:54
So it seems to me that doctors have,

2176
2:01:54 --> 2:01:58
without realizing it, not understood

2177
2:01:59 --> 2:02:04
that a doctor can only operate if he or she is autonomous.

2178
2:02:04 --> 2:02:09
And that autonomy has been removed from doctors

2179
2:02:09 --> 2:02:11
so that medical ethics can be ignored.

2180
2:02:11 --> 2:02:16
And so the medical profession can be controlled

2181
2:02:17 --> 2:02:20
as a cult, if you like, just like Cordelia,

2182
2:02:20 --> 2:02:23
who's a pathologist by the way, the British pathologist

2183
2:02:23 --> 2:02:25
who got the job with the NHS,

2184
2:02:25 --> 2:02:27
but then she told them in the end

2185
2:02:27 --> 2:02:28
that she didn't want all these vaccinations

2186
2:02:28 --> 2:02:29
or even the risk of them.

2187
2:02:31 --> 2:02:34
So the autonomy of doctors,

2188
2:02:34 --> 2:02:37
which allowed the proper practice of medicine

2189
2:02:37 --> 2:02:40
through observing medical ethics as you did

2190
2:02:40 --> 2:02:43
was removed from them and they didn't even realize it.

2191
2:02:43 --> 2:02:46
They didn't understand that evidence-based medicine

2192
2:02:46 --> 2:02:48
was wrong and evidence-based medicine,

2193
2:02:48 --> 2:02:50
the whole idea behind evidence-based medicine

2194
2:02:50 --> 2:02:54
and the creation of virology and the decline of immunology

2195
2:02:54 --> 2:02:57
was to create a construct, in my opinion,

2196
2:02:57 --> 2:03:00
so that they could do what they did in 2020.

2197
2:03:00 --> 2:03:02
Oh, I don't doubt it.

2198
2:03:02 --> 2:03:04
I think this has been a long time coming

2199
2:03:06 --> 2:03:11
and it was tried and true and done and perfected over time

2200
2:03:13 --> 2:03:18
going back to the HIV stuff in the early 80s,

2201
2:03:18 --> 2:03:23
to the bird flu, to H1N1, to SARS1,

2202
2:03:24 --> 2:03:29
to all of them, they were all kind of just flags,

2203
2:03:30 --> 2:03:32
test flags, balloons that were put up to see,

2204
2:03:32 --> 2:03:37
hey, how far can we go and what are we gonna be able to do?

2205
2:03:37 --> 2:03:40
How scared can we make people get?

2206
2:03:40 --> 2:03:43
Look, 100 years ago, people didn't like vaccines.

2207
2:03:43 --> 2:03:47
150 years ago in the middle of the 1800s,

2208
2:03:48 --> 2:03:49
nobody wanted to have anything to do

2209
2:03:49 --> 2:03:50
with a smallpox vaccine.

2210
2:03:50 --> 2:03:53
They saw everything and all this stuff with vaccines,

2211
2:03:54 --> 2:03:56
it was a taboo subject,

2212
2:03:56 --> 2:03:57
nobody wanted to have anything to do with them,

2213
2:03:57 --> 2:03:59
both from a public perspective

2214
2:03:59 --> 2:04:02
as well as from a physician perspective.

2215
2:04:02 --> 2:04:05
And then now over time, just with constant propaganda

2216
2:04:05 --> 2:04:10
and constant lying and scientific sleight of hand

2217
2:04:17 --> 2:04:22
and outright fraudulent data and papers

2218
2:04:22 --> 2:04:25
and things that are written in our journals,

2219
2:04:25 --> 2:04:27
that perspective has completely changed

2220
2:04:29 --> 2:04:31
to the point where even as physicians,

2221
2:04:31 --> 2:04:33
we don't question it.

2222
2:04:33 --> 2:04:36
Like I said, we go through medical school

2223
2:04:36 --> 2:04:38
and get 15 minutes of education on it.

2224
2:04:38 --> 2:04:39
Hey, they're safe and effective,

2225
2:04:39 --> 2:04:41
here's what we do, here's the program,

2226
2:04:41 --> 2:04:44
here's the childhood vaccination schedule,

2227
2:04:44 --> 2:04:46
and this is what you will follow

2228
2:04:46 --> 2:04:48
because everything behind this has all been proven

2229
2:04:48 --> 2:04:50
and you don't even need to look behind the curtain.

2230
2:04:51 --> 2:04:52
But when you start to raise that curtain

2231
2:04:52 --> 2:04:55
and you start looking at it and you see it,

2232
2:04:56 --> 2:04:59
I think it was at the bath conference

2233
2:04:59 --> 2:05:02
that Tess Laurie put on two years ago

2234
2:05:02 --> 2:05:05
and Del Bigtree was there and he got up on stage

2235
2:05:05 --> 2:05:06
with all of the people on stage

2236
2:05:06 --> 2:05:08
and he asked them one question, he said,

2237
2:05:08 --> 2:05:11
what do you guys, if you don't think you like COVID,

2238
2:05:11 --> 2:05:14
what do you think of the normal vaccine schedule?

2239
2:05:14 --> 2:05:18
And almost everybody up there was not a vaccine skeptic

2240
2:05:18 --> 2:05:20
and you've seen that transition

2241
2:05:20 --> 2:05:22
and Peter McCullough is an example.

2242
2:05:22 --> 2:05:24
Peter McCullough a year and a half ago, two years ago,

2243
2:05:24 --> 2:05:27
was not a vaccine skeptic and now he's going through it

2244
2:05:27 --> 2:05:28
and he's looking at it and he's saying,

2245
2:05:28 --> 2:05:32
hey, maybe these things aren't so good for you anymore.

2246
2:05:32 --> 2:05:34
He's doing the Harry Mullis thing

2247
2:05:34 --> 2:05:38
and people are waking up and we just need to,

2248
2:05:38 --> 2:05:42
we need for it to happen much quicker, much faster

2249
2:05:43 --> 2:05:48
and with more vigor and people like me,

2250
2:05:48 --> 2:05:50
cause I know that there's more out there,

2251
2:05:51 --> 2:05:54
need to stand up and need to start pushing back

2252
2:05:54 --> 2:05:56
because if it doesn't, what's happening to me

2253
2:05:56 --> 2:05:58
is gonna happen to everybody else out there,

2254
2:05:58 --> 2:06:01
whether it's a month or 10 years from now.

2255
2:06:01 --> 2:06:02
Absolutely.

2256
2:06:02 --> 2:06:04
They continue to get away with it, then we are,

2257
2:06:04 --> 2:06:07
I mean, it's just, we have to stand up,

2258
2:06:07 --> 2:06:10
we have to push back and we have to not comply.

2259
2:06:10 --> 2:06:11
Absolutely, yeah.

2260
2:06:11 --> 2:06:16
So people need to discover their courage

2261
2:06:17 --> 2:06:18
if they ever had any.

2262
2:06:18 --> 2:06:21
So I wanted to ask you, so Kirk,

2263
2:06:24 --> 2:06:25
do you think there was a pandemic?

2264
2:06:25 --> 2:06:28
It doesn't matter if you get the right or wrong

2265
2:06:28 --> 2:06:30
or whatever right and wrong is.

2266
2:06:30 --> 2:06:31
No, no.

2267
2:06:31 --> 2:06:34
Okay, and when did you realize that there was no pandemic?

2268
2:06:37 --> 2:06:42
Probably, what are we, June, July of 2024?

2269
2:06:43 --> 2:06:48
I was probably fully on board, no pandemic by the end of,

2270
2:06:51 --> 2:06:53
by the middle, so two years ago,

2271
2:06:53 --> 2:06:54
maybe a little bit more than that.

2272
2:06:54 --> 2:06:55
Very good.

2273
2:06:55 --> 2:06:57
So if there was no pandemic,

2274
2:06:58 --> 2:07:00
then what we've gone through for the last four years

2275
2:07:00 --> 2:07:01
was a fraud, wasn't it?

2276
2:07:01 --> 2:07:03
The whole thing was a fraud.

2277
2:07:03 --> 2:07:03
Absolutely.

2278
2:07:03 --> 2:07:05
It wasn't just that there was no pandemic,

2279
2:07:05 --> 2:07:08
the whole damn thing was a construct.

2280
2:07:08 --> 2:07:09
Correct.

2281
2:07:09 --> 2:07:10
Yeah.

2282
2:07:10 --> 2:07:11
The whole thing.

2283
2:07:11 --> 2:07:14
And so bearing in mind, Kirk,

2284
2:07:14 --> 2:07:15
I just, I've got limited time.

2285
2:07:15 --> 2:07:19
So bearing in mind that Kerry Mullis,

2286
2:07:19 --> 2:07:21
I absolutely respect Kerry Mullis.

2287
2:07:21 --> 2:07:26
He was a genius on the level of Jerome, I'm joking.

2288
2:07:26 --> 2:07:29
No, no, Jerome is very, very clever.

2289
2:07:30 --> 2:07:34
But Kerry Mullis, he said,

2290
2:07:36 --> 2:07:37
so I think what you were saying,

2291
2:07:38 --> 2:07:43
the HIV virus is the probable cause of AIDS.

2292
2:07:44 --> 2:07:48
I think that was the statement you were talking about.

2293
2:07:48 --> 2:07:49
So he wrote this,

2294
2:07:49 --> 2:07:53
the HIV virus is the probable cause of AIDS.

2295
2:07:53 --> 2:07:56
Now we won't go into whether viruses exist or not.

2296
2:07:56 --> 2:07:59
I'm sure you've heard about the discussion about that.

2297
2:07:59 --> 2:08:03
Not at the moment anyway, but so the HIV,

2298
2:08:03 --> 2:08:07
so he couldn't, he was a Nobel Prize winner,

2299
2:08:08 --> 2:08:11
in 1993, he got the Nobel Prize correctly, I think.

2300
2:08:11 --> 2:08:12
For the PCR.

2301
2:08:12 --> 2:08:17
Yeah, 1983, he invented, if you like,

2302
2:08:18 --> 2:08:22
the PCR technique, not the PCR test.

2303
2:08:22 --> 2:08:24
And he won the Nobel Prize 10 years later for that

2304
2:08:24 --> 2:08:26
in chemistry.

2305
2:08:26 --> 2:08:28
He was an absolute genius.

2306
2:08:28 --> 2:08:31
I don't know whether you've ever seen the wonderful video,

2307
2:08:31 --> 2:08:33
I think it's on YouTube,

2308
2:08:33 --> 2:08:36
of him talking about his school days

2309
2:08:36 --> 2:08:38
when they were sending rockets up.

2310
2:08:39 --> 2:08:43
And have you heard about, did you?

2311
2:08:43 --> 2:08:43
No.

2312
2:08:43 --> 2:08:45
The guy was a genius.

2313
2:08:45 --> 2:08:47
Anyway, he ended up saying that Fauci

2314
2:08:47 --> 2:08:49
doesn't know anything about anything.

2315
2:08:49 --> 2:08:51
And I have seen that.

2316
2:08:51 --> 2:08:51
I have seen that.

2317
2:08:51 --> 2:08:53
I'd say that to his face.

2318
2:08:53 --> 2:08:54
Right.

2319
2:08:54 --> 2:08:57
Yeah, I thought, I had really started to,

2320
2:08:57 --> 2:08:58
I thought this is my kind of guy.

2321
2:08:58 --> 2:09:02
So I really started trying to find everything I could

2322
2:09:02 --> 2:09:05
about Kerry Mullis.

2323
2:09:05 --> 2:09:09
But Kerry Mullis said that, you know, the test,

2324
2:09:09 --> 2:09:12
the PCR test, his technique should not be used

2325
2:09:12 --> 2:09:17
as a diagnostic tool for diagnosing illness.

2326
2:09:19 --> 2:09:20
Right.

2327
2:09:21 --> 2:09:23
So, and that's exactly what they did.

2328
2:09:23 --> 2:09:27
But they had to kill him first in August, 2019.

2329
2:09:27 --> 2:09:32
So he did die in August, 2019 in suspicious circumstances.

2330
2:09:32 --> 2:09:35
And of course the temporary relationship

2331
2:09:35 --> 2:09:39
of his death in 2019 and the beginning of this nonsense

2332
2:09:39 --> 2:09:44
in the beginning of 2020, arguably before that,

2333
2:09:46 --> 2:09:48
it was just too much of a coincidence.

2334
2:09:48 --> 2:09:51
And another one I think they killed was Montagnier,

2335
2:09:51 --> 2:09:53
who was speaking out in the turn.

2336
2:09:53 --> 2:09:53
Yep.

2337
2:09:53 --> 2:09:55
And we need to think about what-

2338
2:09:55 --> 2:09:58
He won the Nobel Prize for HIV and then he gave it back.

2339
2:09:58 --> 2:10:00
Yep, he did.

2340
2:10:00 --> 2:10:02
He won the Nobel Prize.

2341
2:10:02 --> 2:10:03
Did he give it back?

2342
2:10:03 --> 2:10:05
I didn't know that.

2343
2:10:05 --> 2:10:06
I'm pretty sure he gave it back

2344
2:10:06 --> 2:10:11
because he had an ethical quandary with himself

2345
2:10:11 --> 2:10:15
about he was wondering how much of it was really true.

2346
2:10:16 --> 2:10:19
That's what I think and I might be wrong on that, but-

2347
2:10:19 --> 2:10:21
So, well, that's very interesting.

2348
2:10:21 --> 2:10:24
So Montagnier, maybe that was why he had to die.

2349
2:10:24 --> 2:10:27
So he ended up saying in Milan when he was over 90,

2350
2:10:27 --> 2:10:32
he gave a speech in February, I think it was of 2022,

2351
2:10:32 --> 2:10:34
a week later he was dead.

2352
2:10:34 --> 2:10:38
And he said, the unvaccinated will save humanity.

2353
2:10:40 --> 2:10:41
Did you know that?

2354
2:10:41 --> 2:10:42
No, I did not know that.

2355
2:10:42 --> 2:10:46
Yeah, and some people think that that was why he had to die.

2356
2:10:46 --> 2:10:50
Yeah, he was over 90, but still he was in,

2357
2:10:50 --> 2:10:53
he was in fine voice that day when he was,

2358
2:10:53 --> 2:10:55
okay, he had to have some help through the crowd,

2359
2:10:55 --> 2:10:58
but it was a big crowd in Milan.

2360
2:10:58 --> 2:11:01
And he gave this incredibly brave speech

2361
2:11:01 --> 2:11:04
and he ended up saying that the unvaccinated

2362
2:11:04 --> 2:11:06
will save humanity.

2363
2:11:06 --> 2:11:09
Now, what did he know that he didn't want to tell people

2364
2:11:09 --> 2:11:13
about, but interestingly, Kerry Mullis asked,

2365
2:11:13 --> 2:11:17
he ended, he was asking everybody for the reference

2366
2:11:17 --> 2:11:18
for his statement.

2367
2:11:18 --> 2:11:23
The HIV virus is the probable cause of AIDS.

2368
2:11:23 --> 2:11:24
He wanted to write something

2369
2:11:24 --> 2:11:26
and that was his first sentence and they could,

2370
2:11:26 --> 2:11:31
and to his amazement, he couldn't find any reference

2371
2:11:31 --> 2:11:32
that he liked.

2372
2:11:32 --> 2:11:37
So he ended up going to Montagnier years,

2373
2:11:37 --> 2:11:39
a couple of years later, as I understood it,

2374
2:11:39 --> 2:11:42
and asked him directly.

2375
2:11:42 --> 2:11:46
And Montagnier was surrounded by people as usual.

2376
2:11:46 --> 2:11:50
And they were surprised that Montagnier

2377
2:11:50 --> 2:11:53
suggested a couple of things and Kerry Mullis

2378
2:11:53 --> 2:11:54
knew the studies he was referring to,

2379
2:11:54 --> 2:11:57
said, no, don't write that, don't write that.

2380
2:11:58 --> 2:12:01
And then he walked away from Kerry Mullis,

2381
2:12:01 --> 2:12:04
not to his surprise, but also to the surprise

2382
2:12:04 --> 2:12:06
of the people around Montagnier.

2383
2:12:06 --> 2:12:09
So clearly Montagnier, maybe for the same reason

2384
2:12:09 --> 2:12:12
as he didn't want to, gave the Nobel Prize back,

2385
2:12:12 --> 2:12:13
I don't know whether that's true,

2386
2:12:13 --> 2:12:16
but sounds like the kind of thing he might've done.

2387
2:12:16 --> 2:12:21
And so I think he may be, and so the point is this,

2388
2:12:21 --> 2:12:24
that bearing in mind what we know about Kerry Mullis

2389
2:12:24 --> 2:12:27
and Montagnier, do you think it's possible

2390
2:12:27 --> 2:12:29
as a medical doctor in America

2391
2:12:29 --> 2:12:34
that actually there was no novel respiratory disease

2392
2:12:36 --> 2:12:37
called COVID-19?

2393
2:12:40 --> 2:12:42
Not only is it possible, I firmly believe

2394
2:12:42 --> 2:12:43
that there was a twin.

2395
2:12:43 --> 2:12:46
Absolutely, I think the same.

2396
2:12:46 --> 2:12:50
So on that note, Charles, I think that's a great point.

2397
2:12:50 --> 2:12:51
Great point to end.

2398
2:12:51 --> 2:12:54
Okay, thank you everybody, thank you Kirk.

2399
2:12:54 --> 2:12:56
Thank you everybody for your contributions,

2400
2:12:56 --> 2:12:58
for your input, for your suggestions.

2401
2:12:58 --> 2:13:01
Kirk, I'll share some stuff, links with you,

2402
2:13:01 --> 2:13:03
other people who sent you emails.

2403
2:13:03 --> 2:13:05
Charles, one thing before we go,

2404
2:13:05 --> 2:13:06
next Tuesday I've got a conflict.

2405
2:13:06 --> 2:13:09
I'd like to bring Andrew Paquette on next Saturday.

2406
2:13:10 --> 2:13:11
Sunday.

2407
2:13:11 --> 2:13:14
Stephen, next Sunday, next Sunday.

2408
2:13:14 --> 2:13:16
Oh, well the problem is that there's somebody,

2409
2:13:16 --> 2:13:19
Leslie Manoukian speaking to us and I think-

2410
2:13:20 --> 2:13:24
Leslie can't do it, she wants the night, Dr. Stephen.

2411
2:13:24 --> 2:13:25
She would like the night.

2412
2:13:25 --> 2:13:28
Leslie Manoukian cannot do it next Sunday,

2413
2:13:28 --> 2:13:30
but she can do it on Sunday the 9th.

2414
2:13:32 --> 2:13:33
Good, okay, there you are.

2415
2:13:33 --> 2:13:34
Jerome can do Sunday.

2416
2:13:34 --> 2:13:35
Stephen, how's that?

2417
2:13:35 --> 2:13:35
I'll take Sunday.

2418
2:13:35 --> 2:13:37
God works in mysterious ways.

2419
2:13:37 --> 2:13:38
There we go.

2420
2:13:38 --> 2:13:42
Jerome, so I've got guests for the next four meetings,

2421
2:13:42 --> 2:13:45
five meetings, including you, so you can have next Sunday.

2422
2:13:45 --> 2:13:47
Yes, thank you.

2423
2:13:47 --> 2:13:50
Could you help me with the guests for Tuesday?

2424
2:13:50 --> 2:13:52
I'll work on that tomorrow.

2425
2:13:52 --> 2:13:54
I'll talk to Carla Dean Graves,

2426
2:13:54 --> 2:13:55
we'll work on that tomorrow.

2427
2:13:55 --> 2:13:56
Thanks so much.

2428
2:13:56 --> 2:13:58
Okay, thank you.

2429
2:13:58 --> 2:14:01
Dr. Stephen, can Leslie have July 9th?

2430
2:14:01 --> 2:14:02
Leslie Manoukian?

2431
2:14:02 --> 2:14:06
Let me just write it down, July 9th, yep.

2432
2:14:06 --> 2:14:07
Is that Sunday?

2433
2:14:08 --> 2:14:11
Leslie Manoukian, Leslie-

2434
2:14:11 --> 2:14:13
It's a Tuesday.

2435
2:14:13 --> 2:14:14
Tuesday. It's a Tuesday.

2436
2:14:15 --> 2:14:17
No, that's Michelle's.

2437
2:14:18 --> 2:14:21
So what's the next time that Leslie Manoukian could do?

2438
2:14:21 --> 2:14:22
Sorry, everybody.