So Alec, you ready for me to get this show on the road with a comment or two?
Yeah, that's fine.
Just for everyone's awareness, I have about an hour and a half total today, so with questions
and all.
Okay, great.
And do you want to share your screen?
Yes, I'll definitely be sharing my screen during this.
Hang on one second.
And I'll make you a co-host.
Thank you Alec for jumping in at the last minute.
That was my fault that I left it late again.
But actually, I noticed we often have our best guests when, like the last guest who's
here Hans Benjamin, when I book it, I leave it till late.
Well, it's no good because it's causing me great grief, Stephen, so it's a problem.
Anyway, everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and welcome
to today's discussion.
This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost during the darkest days of the COVID scam
responses with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.
Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower
and activist.
His medical specialty is radiology.
I'm Charles Covess, the moderator of this group.
I'm Australasia's passion provocateur.
And my jacket is red because red is the color of passion.
I practiced law for 20 years before changing career 30 years ago.
And over the last 11 or 12 years, I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies
for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice.
I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company.
We comprise lots of professions, including doctors, lawyers, homeopaths, journalists,
scientists, filmmakers, professors, peacemakers and troublemakers.
And we're from all around the world.
Many of us thought that vaccines were OK.
Now, many of us proudly say, yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers.
If this is your first time here, welcome.
And feel free to introduce yourself in the chat and where you're from.
If you publish a newsletter or a podcast or you have a radio or TV show or you've written
a book, put the links into the chat so we can follow you, promote you and find you.
Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War Three and that there are various
battle lines as part of this war.
Some of us believe we are in a continuation of World War Two.
Most of us understand the development of science and the science is never settled.
This meeting runs for two and a half hours, after which, for those with the time, Tom
Rodman runs a video telegram meeting.
Tom puts the links into the chat if you can join.
We will listen to Alec Zeck, our guest presenter, for as long as Alec wishes to speak.
And then we have Q&A. Alec has said he can't he can be here for an hour and a half.
So we'll have to entertain ourselves after that time.
Stephen Frost asks, by a long established tradition, ask the first questions.
There's no censorship.
It's a free speech environment with appropriate moderating.
Free speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human freedoms as Judge
Doughty in the US in a lengthy judgment, again, applied and with wonderful resources.
I'll put the link to his judgment into the chat.
If you're offended by anything, be offended.
We're genuinely not interested.
We reject the offence industry that requires nobody to say anything that may offend another.
We come with an attitude and perspective on this Fourth of July, with an attitude and
perspective of love, not fear.
Fear is the opposite of love.
Fear squashes you.
Love, on the other hand, expands you.
If you have a solution or a product or links or resources that will help people put the
details into the chat, the meeting is recorded and is uploaded onto the Rumble channel.
And now welcome Alec Zeck, our guest presenter, whom we thank for giving us your time, wisdom
and insights. And thank you, Stephen Frost, again, for creating this group and for organizing
Alec to be with us today.
Alec, over to you.
All right. It's good to be back again.
I think I'll go ahead and pat myself on the back.
I have the third most watched medical doctors for COVID ethics presentation, according to
your Rumble channel, at least Charles.
So pat myself on the back for that.
And I'm not going to rehash a lot of the things that I covered during that presentation today.
If you haven't seen that presentation, I highly recommend checking it out.
But with that, what I'm here to talk about today is a project that I've been working
on since around the time that I last spoke with you all in December, I believe it was
of last year.
And that project is called The End of COVID.
So I'm going to share in the chat the website for the project.
It's the just the end of covid.com.
And I'm going to play a brief trailer to give you a sense of what The End of COVID is about.
You've definitely seen this show before.
Can everyone hear that?
Yep. Yes.
OK.
Let me restart it.
You've definitely seen this show before.
It's been on air since TVs were in black and white, since Walter Cronkite was reporting
on polio and Ronald Reagan was addressing the AIDS crisis.
For decades, this show has been rerun, rebooted and recast with a new virus starring in the
lead role.
Every time the plot starts with a pathogen and the danger of infectious disease, there's
panic, PCR tests and face masks, and at the end, salvation in the form of vaccines.
At this point, the story is a stale, well trodden, tired cliche, and coronavirus is
simply the latest spinoff.
The good news is it's the last one.
Introducing The End of COVID, an online education to end every pandemic.
After this, we can all turn off the broadcast.
Finally, the show is over.
OK, so with that, the purpose of The End of COVID is to properly educate the freedom
movement on exactly what has happened over the last three and a half years and beyond
so that we can ensure none of this nonsense ever happens again.
Because this, just as the trailer said, is a story.
Sorry, I don't know why my camera switched off.
Let me switch cameras real quick.
This is a story that has been repeated over and over and over again for the last few decades,
if not centuries, and it will continue into the future unless men and women are properly
informed on exactly what happened and exactly what the playbook is for what I've been calling
the pandemic industrial complex.
I cannot emphasize enough the importance of understanding the material that we present
during The End of COVID.
Now I'm going to share my screen and show you all the website.
And that's just the trailer that I just showed you.
But most importantly, I want to show you the program to give you an indication of some
of the topics that are covered within The End of COVID.
So it is definitely content heavy.
It consists of over 90 presentations, interviews, roundtable discussions, documentary films,
etc.
Because the intention is to cover every single detail to leave no stone left unturned regarding
what happened over the last three and a half years and beyond.
And of course, the position that we're coming from with this, which I'll show you here,
the first two modules focus heavily on the foundational so-called science of virology.
Of course, in the presentation I gave to medical doctors for COVID ethics, it was only roughly
35 to 40 minutes and I covered quite a bit of detail in that presentation.
But we expand upon that extensively during the first two modules, answering really all
what about this, what about that questions that inevitably arise as we are sorting through
the cognitive dissonance surrounding realizing that there's no proof that SARS-CoV-2 exists
or causes any sort of disease.
And further, there's actually no scientific proof that adheres to the scientific method
that disease is passed via the fluids of a sick person.
So as an example, that session titled the proof of contagion, Jacob Diaz and Mike Stone
go into great detail on the various studies over the years up until roughly the 1950s
when they sort of stopped doing them, attempting to prove that diseases pass via the fluids
of a sick person and every single one of them were completely unsuccessful.
And they also highlight during that session the number of studies that scientists cite
as proof of pathogenicity of so-called viruses or proof that disease is passed via the fluids
of a sick person and show how pseudoscientific those experiments are and how they're riddled
with several unproven presuppositions surrounding disease.
So that's what happens in the first two modules and I think it's worth noting here,
it's not just me saying this as you can see, we feature over 95 speakers
scientists, doctors of various types, independent researchers, etc.
to really give people the truth on what happened.
And so after building upon this foundation here with respect to virology, we do go into
several other details on what occurred during the COVID charade going into the mortality data,
going into comparing health measures across the world, talking about this presentation
from Meredith Miller, talking about the state of captivity in the sort of Stockholm syndrome
that occurred over the last three and a half years is really incredible.
So it's just context upon context upon context upon context to really give people a full picture
of exactly what happened over the last three and a half years and beyond.
And so of course we cover things like the hospital protocols, health implications of wearing masks,
hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, all of those things.
And then we move on to a module devoted specifically to the mRNA shots,
where we feature three different perspectives on what's going on with the technology inside
these shots, what's their intended use, etc. And then we move on to an analysis of the,
I would say more objective than VAERS, although Albert Benavidez, who is on this call with us,
and also Dr. Cowan, thanks both of you for being here, are featured during the end of COVID.
And Albert's presentation that he gives on the VAERS data is really incredible.
But of course the health authorities always refer to VAERS as being a passive reporting system,
which they're sort of trying to shed negative light on it and saying it's inaccurate and
things like this. So in this session, the three military whistleblowers from the DMED data
or give a presentation on the DMED data showing that there's clear proof of harm,
or at least an indication of harm with respect to the COVID products. And then we move on to some
other interesting topics that are pertinent to what's gone on. And then we move on to
discussing sort of in a more broad sense, the pharmaceutical industry and its corruption and
vaccines at large. This session, number 40, actually features Jody Meschek, who was shamed
roughly 14 years ago by her pediatrician to get her son caught up on vaccines. He received nine
in one sitting and then immediately regressed into autism. And so the point in showing that
is showing that this is not a new phenomenon. Vaccine injury and vaccine related death
are not, is not a new phenomenon at all. But this session ends very powerfully because
Jody actually recovered her son from his autism diagnosis. And then we move on into discussing
several things with respect to the pharmaceutical industry. And this session, session number 42,
is a documentary by Roman Vistrionic, the co-author of Dissolving Illusions. And this is the world
premiere of his documentary that he's created sort of based off the book called Dissolving the
Vaccine Illusion. It's a really incredible feature documentary. And then we move on to discussing
the germ theory at large. And in a minute, I'm going to play another 12 minute video that I think
is with respect to health, the most important piece of content. I'll give you guys an early preview.
The most important piece of content for the end of COVID to help people understand
what really makes them ill and what health actually looks like and how brilliant their
body is. So covering a lot of the common questions that come up with respect to the germ theory,
covering a lot of things about bacteria, the role of fungi, mold, parasites, etc.
Then this is our shortest module, who's directing the show, because of course it is important to
cover some of the agenda that's at play. But more important than that is covering solutions. So this
whole module, Rewriting the Script the Way Forward, focuses on common law based and
voluntarist based solutions for men and women to ensure this nonsense never happens again,
to educate men and women on what their rights actually are, where freedom comes from,
and their relation to the men and women in government who are in positions of so-called
authority. And we've partnered with this organization called the Sovereign's Way,
who has a fantastic course called Law for Mankind. So this session right here, session number 66,
is called Law for Mankind in Action, where we interview people who have taken their full course
and have actually used notices of liability and notices of conditional acceptance and things like
this to hold other men and women accountable who have committed trespasses against them.
And throughout the end of COVID, at the beginning of each module, there will be many lessons
from the Sovereign's Way, educating men and women on their rights. So then from there,
after we sort of discuss solutions with respect to freedom, we move into two modules devoted
on discussing a paradigm of health after we've dissolved the false germ theory nonsense.
And these last two modules are really, really exciting. I'm really excited for people to
watch and digest this after they've sort of just had their mind blown and have gone through an
intense unlearning process. So I know we saved questions for the end. So from there, I think it's
best for me to play what I think is the most important piece of health-related content for
the end of COVID. It is an incredible, incredible, incredible video. And I'm excited to show it to
you all. So I'm going to pull this up on screen. And just so that the question that's raging in my
mind. So Alec, is this now available for us to get to? Or?
Yeah, sorry. Okay. I should have been clear on that. It launches on July 11th. It launches on
July 11th for free. It is free for 22 days. After that, you have to purchase it for a minimum
donation of $77. Thank you. Of course, we wanted to-
That was the only question? Okay. Thank you. Beautiful.
Yep. Yeah. So July 11th, a week from today, it will launch. Yep. And again, I guess before I get
to the video, the intention behind this is like, yes, of course, the authorities have announced
that COVID is over, right? That's what they've announced. But the reality is this was all a big
show. It never began in the first place. There was no proof of any physical material threat to begin
with. And it was all a, for lack of a better term, psychological operation. And ultimately, this show
will continue to repeat again and again ad infinitum, unless we understand the playbook
that they use for this show. And we start understanding how brilliant our bodies are.
And we start understanding that there's no proof that disease is passed via the fluids of a sick
person. And they weaponize that unproven idea to gain control over us and to actually sicken us
for profit. And we sort of take, well, most of us that are featured during the end of COVID,
sort of take the position that the gain of function narrative is a disempowering and also
unproven narrative to latch onto with respect to health. Let me actually pull this up one more
time, because I want to discuss one more session that I believe is extremely important for people
to watch during the end of COVID. So in module number two, the narrative act two, we have a
session titled the gain of function narrative featuring Drs. Mark and Dr. Sam Bailey, or Drs.
Mark and Sam Bailey rather. And that session is extremely important because Mark and Sam go into
great detail on the gain of function experiments, showing that they are all based on unproven ideas
about health and they're riddled with assumptions. Now, that's not to say that they may not,
of course, the questions come up like, okay, well, what are they doing in these labs? What
are they actually creating? Are they just tricking themselves, et cetera, et cetera?
All of that is also answered during the gain of function narrative session for the end of COVID.
And with them, with the powers that shouldn't be or the powers that actually aren't, but that's a
conversation for another time that we also actually covered during the end of COVID with
respect to the illusion of authority. But the point is those who are pushing this narrative
have pushed the whole COVID charade upon us, will continue this nonsense into the future.
And if we're latching onto false ideas surrounding the existence and pathogenicity of viruses,
it actually allows this nonsense to continue into the future. So again, it's vitally important
that we get to the root of what's really going on and what's really gone on these last three
and a half years. So, okay, now I'm going to move on to the video that is the most important
piece of content that we featured during the end of COVID. Okay. Let's make sure everyone can hear
this. Yep, we can hear it. What if my body is brilliant?
If the following questions inspire curiosity, please share this video with others and ask them
to join you on your journey of discovery. What if my body is brilliant and everything it does is
part of a strategy to survive and thrive? What if every incomprehensibly intricate process my body
attempts is simply its best path forward given whatever resources and roadblocks are present at
the moment? Given that billions of my cells purposefully die each day to brilliantly allow
for constant growth and adaptation and physical injuries, stress and exposure to toxins result in
additional cellular death, where does all that waste go if I'm not removing it as quickly as
I'm producing it? What happens inside my body when it holds too much waste for longer than it should?
Does this stagnant swamp of waste damage neighboring healthy tissue producing a snowball
effect of more and more cellular death as waste continues to pile up? What strategies might my
body use to get out of this vicious cycle? What if my body recognizes only natural substances
and gets confused by synthetic or highly processed things commonly consumed and absorbed,
such as artificial flavors and colors, vegetable and seed oils and microplastics? How does my
body deal with these substances when they too are part of the swamp? Given that bacteria in my gut
are critically important to the process of breaking down the dead cells of food that I consume
and bacteria have been discovered throughout all parts of a healthy human body, might bacteria also
be helpful in breaking down my own dead cell waste as well? What if the concept of good bacteria and
bad bacteria is fundamentally wrong? What if all bacteria are simply organisms designed to do one
job, eat dead tissue, breaking it into smaller parts which can more readily be eliminated and
returned to the earth as part of the circle of life? Given that bacteria produce their own waste
in the process of metabolizing dead cells, what if bacteria are only problematic for my body when
they produce too much waste as a result of being given a buffet of dead substances to consume?
What if bacteria and other microbes are the convenient scapegoat for the true underlying
problem? Excessive cell death as caused by a variety of factors. Metaphorically, what if bacteria
don't cause the fire but instead proliferate as nature's attempt to put the fire out?
What strategies might my body use to remove the combination of dead cell debris, microbial waste,
and synthetic substances if I'm burdened with too many of them all at once? What if I'm not
adequately hydrating and my bowel movements are infrequent? What if I'm not exercising enough to
sweat out wastes? What are the next steps my brilliant body might take to clean the swamp?
What if diarrhea and vomiting are strategies my body uses to remove wastes? What if excessive
phlegm and a runny nose is another? What if the symptoms we commonly refer to as being
quote sick are actually just the necessary steps of healing? What if taking medications designed
to end the symptoms of sickness actually prevents my body from healing? What if antibiotics kill my
bacteria which stops them from breaking down unwanted substances which in turn terminates
my natural cleansing process? If my body is unable to remove excess waste via these albeit
unpleasant symptoms, does it have no choice but to store them deeper? If symptoms aren't the
problem but instead are the solution to something which previously occurred, what if all of modern
medicine's efforts are misguided? What if the dramatic increase in chronic ailments over the
last century is at least partially due to advancements in suppressing short-term symptoms?
If my body is perpetually pushing waste deeper, am I simply trading acute diseases for chronic
ones creating more severe outcomes as I kick the proverbial can further down the road?
What if the concept of specific diseases is wrong? What if the root cause of all disease is the same
but the symptoms are different depending on an impossibly nuanced history of the individual?
Does this explain how positive results have been observed when treating many types of supposedly
distinct diseases with simple water fasting protocols? What if the cure for every disease
is simply to remove excess waste and any other impediments allowing our brilliant bodies to
heal naturally? What if that takes drastically longer for some people than others depending on
their unique history and lifestyle habits? With so many variables, how could this idea ever be
proven or disproven via clinical trials? What if my mind is the most powerful part of my body
and yet another variable? As frequently demonstrated by placebo-controlled studies,
thoughts are capable of producing physiological effects. What happens to my body if I'm
constantly thinking negative thoughts and harboring unprocessed negative emotions?
What if my body is designed to make my actions align with my beliefs? Does this explain how
hypochondriacs who believe they will fall victim to disease can experience measurable symptoms?
What if I believe that the symptoms I'm suffering from are incurable? Can I actually prevent myself
from completing the healing process? Can I only truly be healthy when my mind allows it?
By what mechanism does a thought generate a material result? For example, how does the mere
observation of a stressful event cause my body to produce a stress hormone? Where do the electrical
fields generated by my body fit into this equation? What does the constant bombardment of non-native
electromagnetic fields do to my body's natural electrical balance? How does my body react to a
How does my body react to a full day immersed in, for example, a Wi-Fi network? Can these
disharmonious frequencies disrupt my natural processes? Can this be a co-factor in the
creation of disease symptoms? Given the complex electrical nature of all living organisms and the
evidence that frequency-based communication occurs between cells within my body, might
immaterial communication between multiple bodies be possible? Could frequencies coming into harmony
with one another explain the phenomenon of menstrual cycle syncing? Shouldn't I expect that
many other things are being energetically communicated between living organisms as well?
If my body eliminates waste as part of its solution to an underlying problem and this
process resembles a cold or flu, is it possible that I'm capable of energetically communicating
this helpful strategy with other people? When they too begin presenting the same detoxification
symptoms, wouldn't this appear exactly the same as what we currently call an infectious disease?
Is contagion actually just an intelligent communication process leading to mass healing?
Because not all people are in need of internal cleanse at the same time, does this explain why
the syncing frequencies wouldn't necessarily result in spreading the symptoms of disease?
Wouldn't this appear exactly the same as our current concept of immunity?
Because there are relatively few ways for my body to eliminate waste, can the differences in severity
between various respiratory ailments, referred to as colds, flus, bronchitis, pneumonia, etc.,
be explained simply by differences in the amount of waste needing to be removed
and how capable I am at completing this process without complications?
Given that virologists have never been able to find supposedly infectious virus particles and
fluids taken from an ill person, only showing debris of unknown origin, claimed to be viruses
at the end stages of a laboratory process involving multiple inputs including toxic substances,
is it possible that our current concept of a virus is just a story we'd never outgrew,
originating from an inability to explain the phenomenon of contagion?
Given the various experiments from the early 1900s which failed to spread supposedly contagious
diseases from one person to another, what if the simple answer to these failures is that they were
working with the wrong foundational hypothesis? And because these studies failed at proving their
hypothesis, shouldn't alternative hypotheses have been thoroughly investigated over the last 100
years? What if many doctors and scientists over the last century actually have done this work,
recognizing the logical errors at the foundation of modern medicine? What if, to the detriment of
their careers, they've written many books and papers explaining how humanity has been misled?
Would I have heard about these people if my only source of health information came from school
textbooks and advertiser-funded news? And even if I had heard of them, would I have dismissed them
as quacks because their ideas strayed from the norm? What if the foundational principles of
modern medicine have already been proven wrong, given the trillions of dollars wrapped up in
pharmaceuticals, hospital systems, medical research, and insurance conglomerates? Would
this knowledge be suppressed? Is the entire paradigm too big to fail? Do the economic
implications become so overwhelming that many are afraid to even entertain the notion of changing
course? What if well-intentioned professionals in various fields of health care asked themselves
all of these questions? What if they concluded that their careers were based on a series of
incorrect assumptions presented as indisputable facts during their formal education and training?
Could they overcome this crisis of identity, coupled with the guilt from unwittingly leading
patients in the wrong direction for years or decades? Could they brave the financial
ramifications of no longer practicing within the same broken system? What if people everywhere,
in unison, began to recognize that our bodies are brilliant, that we are in control of our own health
and are not relying on man-made inventions to fix supposed shortcomings of nature? Instead,
what if we looked at what we ate and drank, and how we talked, thought, and felt? What if we demanded
that every dollar currently allocated to disease treatments was instead spent on cleaning our air,
soil, and water? What if we focused on removing any impediments standing in the way of how
nature intended for our bodies to work? What if we were no longer afraid of symptomatic people,
and instead embraced them? What if the only bug we can spread is a communication strategy
intended to resolve an underlying issue? What if we said thank you when we began experiencing
the symptoms of disease, recognizing them instead as signs of healing?
What if my body is brilliant, and yours is too? What would the world look like if we all realized this together?
Okay, that's it. I don't really have anything else to say. I think
if you found that video to be impactful to you, I appreciate anyone willing to spread that around,
make it go viral, pun intended. Let me share the YouTube link for that video. We do have a YouTube
version up right now, and if you could share that around, I'd really appreciate it. And if you could
also share around the website, the end of COVID. We also have an affiliate program, so if you want
to receive compensation for helping us raise awareness for this project, I greatly appreciate
that. And yeah, that's all I have to say. Wow. That is a great video. What if my body is
brilliant, and you think about this whole perspective that we have of our bodies, that
90 sessions, Alec, of end of COVID, of what has been put together with an amazing
range of experts. Congratulations. What an extraordinary exercise. I have many, many
questions, but as you know, we start with Stephen, and so others, put your hands up for-
Well, I guess let me share one more thing, just to give everyone a preview of the people who are
presenting as part of the end of COVID. Last thing that I'll do, and then I'll
turn it over to you guys. Let's see. Let me pull this up one more time.
Okay. Yeah. So here's some of the people that are featured during the end of COVID. I'll just
scroll through it slowly here. Can you read the names? I can't read the names. Can you read the
names out, Alec? Here, I'll just do this. Let me see if I can zoom in on this so you can see it
better. That's better. Here, there we go. Kevin Cool was great. Mark Bailey is excellent.
Andrew Kaufman is brilliant.
They're all brilliant. A lot of these people I don't know, actually, but anyway.
Sam Bailey is very clever, very good doctor, understands medicine. Meredith Miller is,
I don't know how she's come up with the stuff she has, but she's right on target, I think.
John Bowden, of course. Todd Callander.
Yeah, I think you've had quite a few of these people. Lee Merritt, yeah. On medical doctors
for COVID ethics. I'll read them later, but it's very interesting. Almost done here, and then
we'll move on. Just wanted to show you guys how many people, how many brilliant minds we're
featuring during the end of COVID. We've had Pavlevski as well. I haven't got time to read
all the names, so I've just picked out Rogowski. That's it. Yeah. Okay. Yep. So very well done,
Alec. One of the things I learned from lawyers was that, and I couldn't understand it because
I was so tortured by the case, as it were, that I just couldn't understand it. So I was so angry
as well, and I just wanted to throw everything I knew at the opposition, who was the Ministry of
Defence. But they used to kind of focus, they used to try to identify the most important
argument and stick to that. And I could never understand this because I just wanted to hit
them with everything we had, every weapon available. But of course, I finally understood that not only
did we give them all our information, which we could have saved up for another day, to give them
several bad days, but also their thing was that they didn't want to dilute the message,
the most important message in their view from a legal point of view, which didn't always correspond
with my view as the victim of what was happening. Do you get me? So I think it's really amazing. But
actually, to pick out the most important messages, you actually have to do, as you've done,
and we've done as well, listen to all kinds of people from all kinds of backgrounds, with all
kinds of opinions. And then eventually, you realize that actually you understand it pretty well,
much more than you thought was possible, say, two or three years ago.
And so I don't know whether you felt that as well, but you've obviously had a similar strategy.
It wasn't really a strategy. In our case, it was just kind of happened. But you've done very well.
I wanted to ask you, so what you're talking about, the brilliance of the human body,
is very important, because one of the things that these globalists, is they want to convince us
that they're very clever and that the human body needs their help. Well, it's just nonsense.
You know, this is hubris. We can't even conceive of the size of the universe, never mind the
complexity of it and all the animals and the birds and all kind of getting rid of their waste,
if you like. I don't think of it like that, but you do amazingly. But anyway, I was thinking,
I was talking to Kevin Corbett one day, you know, in the UK. He's a friend of mine. And he happened
to mention that in the 80s, the immunologists were pushed aside by the virologists. So as the
virologists came into play, the immunologists disappeared. And when I was at medical school,
the immunologists were the top of the tree as far as medical doctors were concerned. That's what we
were, you know, that was the impression I got as a medical student. So I said to him, do you think
it was deliberate that they invented the world of virology, you know, invented it actually,
or increased the power of that specialty? I remember Sukrit Bhakdi also saying that virology
split away from microbiology. So there was bacteriology, parasitology and virology. I
remember asking why was virology split off from microbiology? So, and then I also thought that
virology, there's at least a possibility which needed to be investigated, obviously, if there's
a possibility. But nothing that virology, epidemiology, genomics, the whole fields of
those three, you know, plus evidence-based medicine, which was always going to lead to tyranny.
That these were necessary to push the nonsense of deadly viral pandemics threatening the human
species. And in America at the moment, up to the age of four or five, I think it is, they have to
have 72 shots. Every child has to have 72 shots to keep alive.
26 by 12 months of age.
Yeah.
And then you observe the world, you know, you think about all the birds, you know, flying around,
well, they don't have any vaccinated, as far as I know they don't, you know, the sparrows and the
robins and the, and so the whole thing, you know, it's a, you've got a world, a universe, which is
so vast and complicated, which is obviously beyond human comprehension.
None of us has any idea why we're here, how we got here, and in particular, well, in my case,
I'm absolutely, yeah, so the point is, and yet these bastards tell us that they want to save us,
you know, with these vaccinations. It's just nonsense. So, but it's not just the medical
stuff. It's the Ukraine war, you know, and the whole thing is-
The agricultural industry, it's so much of it.
Sure. And the climate change and then the trans agenda, which of course destroys families,
and the whole, it seems to me that there's been a real push to destroy the concept of family,
you know, to threaten, to undermine it all so that marriage doesn't mean anything, that families
don't mean anything, when of course, if you've got a strong family, strong family produces strong
individuals. So it's not just about the medicine, but what's happened in the last three and a half
years is that, in my opinion, there's a complete failure of the practice of medicine, and the
failure is easy to find, that there were no medical ethics, and the concept of autonomous, individual,
individual autonomous doctors, we were taught this at medical school, the biggest thing in favour of
the patients was doctors to remain autonomous and individual with respect to medical ethics.
Oh no, that went, evidence-based medicine, everything had to be proved beyond reasonable doubt,
and all this nonsense, you know, medical ethics were completely forgot. You can't practice
medicine without medical ethics, and you can't practice medicine without post-mortem examinations
either, and they were banned, of course, you know, no, no, no, done around the world, apart from
Professor Arne Booker, Burkhardt, who came, I won't go into the detail there, but then
important questions were asked of him two weeks before he died,
two weeks later, after those questions, he was dead. So, and the circumstances of the death are
still very unclear to me, that's not the fault of him or his family, but it's just amazing
that just he, and he was working with Sucrebacdia, and we all know that the German state tried to
get him for antisemitism, this is outrageous, this is propaganda, and you know, it's not,
so what I'm trying to say is not just about the no virus, and we all need to work together,
you know, the no virus people who you know have been very vocal,
and, but we've had a lot of those no virus people on this channel, and all we got for that was
grief from some of them, not from you, I heard that you were defending, so thank you for that,
and I just wonder, you know, if you can remember what I said, whether you, what your thoughts are,
I'd be very interested. Yeah, I of course agree that the no virus thing is not the only
issue at play here, of course that would not be the case, and of course using 9-11 as an example,
they'll use various psyops and they have used various psyops in various different fields
throughout history to seize more control, cause more division, chaos, etc., but with respect to health,
if it is indeed true, and I am thoroughly convinced that it is true, and I think if you tune in to the
end of COVID, you will probably be thoroughly convinced as well, if you have any lingering
uncertainties regarding the lack of validity of viruses and the germ theory at large, that
that the medical community is approaching health from a completely flawed understanding of how the
human body works, and if your foundation is entirely flawed, then everything built upon it
will also be flawed, so of course the no virus thing is relevant because that is, you know,
the existence of SARS-CoV-2 is what gave way for everything over the last three and a half years
to occur, but not only that, it gives way to the entire vaccination program, it gives way to much
of what allopathic medicine does in its approach to health, and if it's operating from a flawed
understanding, it is relevant to the everyday lives of men and women around the entire world.
So I absolutely agree, so I think everything that the no virus people have been saying,
I've been saying this all along, that it's possible, you know, but it's very difficult
to prove a negative, and so it's a little, you know, so you don't need, so all I would say as a
doctor approaching it from the medical doctor's side is that in my opinion, what I was told at
medical school was that these deadly viral pandemics, you know, that they can't occur,
or sorry, they didn't tell us that, what they said was that the thing about a deadly virus
was that it can't cause a pandemic because it kills its host, it's not easy to have, so they've
created this notion that pandemics, you know, we're always on the edge of a viral pandemic and
always terribly dangerous, we need to say, I think it's rubbish, I don't think we're, anyway,
these deadly viral pandemics are not possible and they're not a threat, and they need to be
exposed for that, but yes, it's quite possible that there are no viruses, that I don't know,
I haven't gone into it enough because I haven't had time, but I've always said that we need to
look at that, but I didn't, I personally didn't think that we needed to look at it at the moment,
and certainly it wasn't worth us kind of arguing to the point that we didn't talk to each other.
I agree with that, I think that's not helpful, but let me finish on my commentary with respect
to the virus thing and then I'll touch on the other part of your question if I may.
So if there are no viruses, there's no need for vaccines, full stop. There's no need for any of
the poisonous injections that our kids receive, there's no need to fight for safer vaccines,
and that means, like I said, every single one of the health measures over the last three years
is completely fraudulent, and there is no need to be fearful of lab-made viruses either, so-called
lab-made viruses. Absolutely, I agree. The gain-of-function thing is a construct, it's a limited hangout,
but it also has the advantage because they can say, oh, you know, they're doing the gain-of-function
narrative against the laws of America, so everybody thinks, oh, why would they be saying that, you know,
well, yes, because it actually is important for them to bolster the narrative of deadly viral
pandemics, whether they're naturally occurring or created in the lab, and particularly the ones
created in the lab are important because people think, oh, you know, we're really in danger,
we're on the edge. Exactly. David, let Alec finish. Yeah, so, and again, like, to emphasize this point
with respect to the idea that there was a man-made bio-weapon that escaped from a lab or was
deliberately released from a lab, I'll just touch on that briefly, but again, please tune into the
end of COVID because it is covered extensively and there's context upon context, upon context,
upon context, answering all of the, well, what about this? Well, what about that? Questions that
inevitably arise, because remember, like, let's go back into the past. In 2019, I was already fully
aware of the corruption in the pharmaceutical industry, right? I was already fully aware of my
son was, I already had one child at that time and he's completely unvaccinated. I already knew never
to put any of those toxic poisons inside the bodies of my kids, but I believed that there was
a man-made bio-weapon that escaped from a lab. And then as time went on, I discovered the foundational
fraud of virology because I was looking at the landscape of what was occurring, painted against
the backdrop of what I witnessed on these black rectangular boxes, our phones, our TVs, our computers
of the propaganda of Chinese people dropping dead in the streets and even multiple mainstream
sources talking about how a deadly bio-weapon might have escaped from a lab and we need to defend and
put more regulations on gain of function experiments, et cetera, et cetera. But as I simply stopped
blindly accepting what I was being told, even by so-called alternative pundits on these black
boxes on my screen and simply observed reality, there is no proof of it. And further, the CDC's
own data corroborates what I'm saying. 95% of COVID deaths had an average of four comorbidities,
most being lifestyle nutrition related. 79% of hospitalizations were in overweight or obese
people. 75% of deaths occurred in people aged 65 and up. 50% of deaths occurred in people aged 70 and
up. And the second strongest risk factor for death associated with COVID, which is just a label for
an amalgamation of symptoms, was fear slash anxiety related disorders, which would imply those are
people who had already had a diagnosed disorder, not accounting for the large number of people that
wound up in the hospital, wound up testing quote positive for COVID and being put on a ventilator
and then being given remdesivir. So the point is when you say that there is a bio-weapon that
escaped from a lab, show me the proof of that. Because even as Nick Hudson and Denny Rancourt
have done with respect to the mortality data around the world, there is no proof that there
was a pandemic. The mortality data doesn't reflect that. The mortality data does reflect that there
was a spike in some weird stuff, some weird issues, and also with respect to the deaths
after the rollout of the products that were delivered to people in early 2021. But when
you say there's a deadly bio-weapon that escaped from a lab, where? Where's the proof of it? None
of the symptoms surrounding COVID are novel symptoms. There's nothing new going on. Was there
an increase in certain types of symptoms? Absolutely. I will acknowledge that, that a
lot of people experience that, but we also cover that during the end of COVID, going into sort of
some of the psychosomatic phenomena related to what's gone on over the last three and a half years.
And of course, if you had looked up loss of taste and smell, common cold prior to this whole era,
you would have found that one in three people experienced loss of taste and smell with a common
cold. Zinc deficiency also plays in... Absolutely. Yes. But you know what, Alec, you're the first
person I've heard saying that. And I was saying, I've been saying that none of the symptoms was
pathognomonic for COVID-19. It was a failure of diagnosis, both if you did the ridiculous tests
and did it clinically as a doctor. There were no symptoms which are peculiar to COVID-19.
And to your other point though, real quick, Stephen, if I may, because I only have like
28 minutes left, is that yes, the no virus thing is not the only thing that is important here.
And that's why during the end of COVID, we've also taken an approach in dissecting our relationship
as men and women to government, which is also ironically comprised of men and women like us,
and educating men and women on their rights, where their rights come from, where freedom comes from,
and how we hold other men and women accountable who commit trespasses against us. That is another
huge thing that we're covering during the end of COVID. And that will apply when it comes to
these nonsensical climate lockdowns or anything else that they try to throw at us, because
ultimately, this tyranny continues because whether many of us disagree with the flavor by which
they wield their authority, the methods, the type of authority, we still have the underlying
conditioned belief that other men and women who are in so-called positions of authority have a
right to tell us what to do. And that is something we also dissect during the end of COVID.
Absolutely. Ridiculous, yeah. Mere human beings
trying to tell us that they know everything, and it's just ridiculous.
All right, we've got questions. Albert.
Thank you, Alec. Yeah.
Alec, thank you for coming. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to do my spiel.
Thank you for being a part of it, man. For real, your analysis is the various data
for the end of COVID. I'm so excited for people to watch that. It was incredible.
It was really good. It was a complete honor. I just wanted to say that I had no idea how
long this scam had been going on before the COVID era. It wasn't until lockdowns, and I started to
follow theirs and that whole bit. But I guess apparently there's been people for years,
if not decades, talking about this scam for a long time. And that's why I wanted to give a
little shout out post, I think it's post humorously, with a guy named Raymond Obamzawin.
Yeah. My friend here, Shasta, has been trying to get, asking or begging, that maybe get Raymond's
stuff on there, squeezed in there onto your platform. Yeah, so we feature Raymond's
Phantom Pandemic PDF as a downloadable. So this is for everyone's awareness. Below each
of the respective sessions will be downloadable PDFs that pertain to that session. And Raymond
Obamzawin's Phantom Pandemic document will be downloadable below, I think, over half of the
sessions for the end of COVID, as will Dr. Mark Bailey's A Farewell to Virology, and then a number
of other things that pertain to specific details covered in each of the respective sessions.
God bless you, Alex. And I just wanted to let you guys know, watch out. We've been working with
Shasta and I and family members of the Obamzawin family. Been working with Ted Koontz of
Vaccine Choice Canada to get Raymond his own website and his own platform with all of his
materials. But in the meantime, I have a, I put a little link dedicating a page to all his stuff
on my website. And, you know, Raymond was just a great, godly man. And he, you know, he was, he,
we should have been listening to him decades, decades ago. And I'm sure if he was still alive
today, he would, he would have been one of the headliners here with, with you, with on your
platform. But thank you. And can't wait. I can't wait for July 11. Thank you so much, Alex.
Yeah, thank you again, Albert, for being a part of it. Really appreciate it, really.
Albert, well done on your huge work. That's, that's fantastic. And you've dug deep and it's
been a great resource. So great work. Jim. Thanks very much. Hey, yes, thanks very much. Hey,
great talk. And I wanted to ask you about the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. This spike protein,
Robert Redfield said it was developed by the United States State Department.
Released the same spike protein as in the vaccine. Restrained by six prolines. The spike protein was
is known to be a carcinogen. And that was covered up by Eric Breed at NIH Fort Detrick.
Fort Detrick is the center of tick-borne and mosquito-borne illnesses.
Every country in six eyes, the six eyes countries, including Britain and the United Kingdom,
as well as Israel and the United States, prevented the use of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin,
which is the treatment for the spike protein or whatever, as well as coxiella burnetti,
which is the one thing that's that in Freedom of Information, Janet Woodcock will not talk about.
It is also the treatment, the treatment for coxiella, which is hydroxychloroquine and
doxycycline also stops the plague. We see also mosquitoes biting people and getting and giving
out malaria now in the United States. It's also the treatment for all these things. Couldn't this
be a genetically engineered spike protein damage that is easily prophylaxis, low dose,
H2 blockers, and is a genetic weapon aimed to depopulate the United States and the six eyes
countries, just like the theme of Rainier and the U.S. and the United States, and the six eyes
countries, just like the theme of Rainbow Six. Thanks.
Yeah, Jim, you threw a lot of terms there with respect to the so-called ACE2 receptor and the
spike protein and the use of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and insect-borne illnesses and
things like this. It's relevant because we cover literally all of those things during the end of
COVID in great detail. Let me share my screen one more time. So during module two, we cover the
so-called spike protein. Dr. Stefano Scoglio goes into great detail describing the so-called
discovery of and proof of the spike protein. We go into the details surrounding hydroxychloroquine
and ivermectin in session number 28 of module four. In this session, session number four,
isolation of SARS-CoV-2, the ACE2 receptor is discussed quite a bit. And then with respect to
insect-borne illnesses, in this presentation, Dr. Stef Young does a deep dive into the
in this presentation, Dr. Stef Young does a deep dive of Lyme disease. So I will just
at this point refrain from commenting on that so as to not go off on a tangent because I only have
20 minutes left. And I just encourage everyone to tune in to the end of COVID and watch those
sessions. And if you have problems with what is presented in those sessions, I appreciate
not using logical fallacies because logical fallacies are used when you don't have a legitimate
argument. And I would hope that you are able to refute the evidence that we present. So that's
Thank you very much. Looking forward to seeing that. Yep. That's all I'll say about that.
Thank you, Jim. All right. Now, a couple of things, everybody, and some questions,
a couple of questions for you. Alec, firstly, I gave stop press notice of the vaccine detox
summit. Alec, you would have got that as well. That starts today for five days. Many of the
presenters to this group are featured. It's free. And Dr. Alina Lesinic in Germany has set this up.
It's the vaccine detox summit starting on the fifth to the ninth of July. And,
and Alec, it's a great challenge for all of us with this volume of information,
and they're getting the best information. And what end of COVID does is to enable us
to have a resource to send to people who need to be educated in totality. That's,
that's wonderful. Alina Lesinic, she's focusing on recovering. And you mentioned the mother
whose child got those nine vaccines. And yesterday, I watched Bobby Kennedy
purportedly grilled in a town hall by a stooge doctor. I urge all of you to watch that and watch
his rebuttal of, of people who say you are spreading disinformation, Bobby Kennedy,
you are spreading dangerous, you are spreading information that's dangerous to people.
And so that others know I'm on the I'm on the committee of the Australian vaccination
risks network that was founded everybody in 1994. Okay, this is 29 years ago, I'm now the
two years old then two years old. I was two years old in 1994. Yeah, well, that's when
that's when there are people who realize the harm being done by vaccines.
And Judy Mike of it's it was in the chat said do not get ever again injected. So the recovery
Wakefield was speaking out even before then. No, he was not. No, he was 1999. Oh,
well, that's when he got destroyed. Yes, but I think he was talking before.
Not much known. Merrill Dory started in 1994. However, you know, it's it doesn't every single
bit. I think this since the 1800s 1700s even Curtis cost, I think Curtis cost was 1991. Steven,
I think. Remember, he came on and spoke to us. It was 91. Because the 1986 change of law in the US
Alec and I'm presumed you've gone through that the indemnity given to these evil pharmaceutical
companies is what caused this extraordinary spike in injecting Americans and Australians
and English. Now the recovery process so this five day summit is about recovery. And I'm dealing
with a lot of people who need protocols for recovery. And so any of you who know anybody
who is injured from the jabs, and there's a lot of people, then they should be looked at the five
day the interviews will be available, but all these different protocols because one protocol
doesn't work for every person. So that's that's what the that vaccine detox summit is about. And
you then Alec talk about this whole detox process. And the you touch in that in the your body is
brilliant, which is a wonderful piece. Who put that together? Because I got that a few months ago.
It's brilliant. Yeah, so that was written by a member of my organization named James. And he
kind of wants to remain anonymous, but he's right. He wanted to help push this out. And it was
originally just a PDF. And he sent it to me. And I said, dude, I'm going to do whatever I can to get
this shared all over the world. Because the first time I read it, I wept. I literally started crying
because I just thought it was so beautiful. And what a perfect way to encapsulate the terrain model
while using the Socratic method to sort of invite people through question asking to ponder these
questions and to step into a position of empowerment with respect to their bodies.
And so that for the end of COVID, we sat down and a friend of mine who's a brilliant filmmaker
joined us and we just thought, let's let's do what we can to turn this into a video that we can
feature during the end of COVID. And that's what we that's what we did.
It's it's it's what it's wonderful. And it's the whole the whole question of elimination.
Number one cause of disease I learned many years ago is constipation. And so the more accurate
accurate statement, some people say you are what you eat. More accurate, it's more accurate to say
you are what you don't eliminate. Yes, you are what you don't eliminate. So the lessons so each
one of us has to understand this elimination process. And that's, that's why the what's the
name of it's Jody. What's her surname? Jody Meschek. Jody Meschek. And that's extraordinary
that she that that she was committed to getting her child to be healthy after these poison jabs.
And she succeeded. It's a wonderful story. So I look forward to it.
He was diagnosed with autism, I believe roughly six months to a year after he had regressed.
So he was he already had several words that he was saying and he was crawling and making
eye contact. And then after receiving nine shots in one sitting regressed and lost all of those
capabilities, was diagnosed with autism a few months later. And she said the biggest challenge
for her was overcoming her own shame to then began a process of helping to heal her son and
her son is a normal, well functioning 13 14 year old kid and you would never know that he was
previously diagnosed with autism if you saw him now. Magnificent. Great. Beautiful story.
Beautiful story. And that shame issue I'm finding it as well as I'm sure many of you are. And Hans
Benjamin, I hope you can stay for after when Alec leaves, I need to bring some interesting
information to you, but we'll share that after Alec leaves. But I want Alec to know about it.
Now the other issue, Stephen, that we need to know about is that Anna de Buisere,
I bring it to our, you know, it was put in the chat last week that she's not well.
Someone said when you know, she doesn't want information advice, but, but I just wanted to,
to if anyone has an update on Anna, please share it in the chat that can be shared. But I think
she's got a co fundraiser going, I think. So she's in a pretty ordinary way. I just wanted to if
someone can give us an update, please do so in the chat. And then the last question that I have
before I do my comment on soil, that's also relevant to health and you touch on I'm delighted that
you do Alec, you as a former military man, Hans Benjamin, I'd urge you to have a look at Hans
Benjamin's presentation, we need your help to get Hans Benjamin's research out. And Hans Benjamin,
somebody saw your recording and and through Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom Rodman, we'll get it to Bobby Kennedy,
because that is your information is very relevant to what's going on in the silence is deafening
about your brilliant work. And all of us here should be using our connections to share that
and Alec you as well. Okay, so the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipeline using nuclear weapons,
and can only have been ordered by Joe Biden or approved by Joe Biden. Okay, that's the point.
So we can talk some more about that after you go Alec, but Alec, you're just file that away and see
how we can, who you can share that report, please send it to me because I haven't seen it. So it's
on the rumble channel. Got it. So essentially covert attack, a nuclear attack, a covert nuclear
attack on Russia, but not only Russia, other European states, I think I'm not, am I mischaracterizing
it, Hans Benjamin? Well, just in brief words, a yes, it was a thermonuclear weapon. That's one thing.
And secondly, it was targeted to send a shockwave towards Kaliningrad. So the seismic response there
was actually 10 times as large as in the neighboring island of Bornholm. Normally a seismic response
decays with distance, right? So it was a rather elaborate thing. And nobody knew about it, because
of course I used seven different geophysical methods. So even if somebody doubts one, I mean,
you would have to disprove every single one of them. So there is actually, it's beyond the shadow
of a doubt. I've actually never done any scientific work where I had so many independent proofs for a
phenomenon. Yeah, I would love to see it. I'd love to see that video. So Alec, I'll send it, I'll send
the direct link, but it's on the channel. So Hans Benjamin, we'll talk some more. And Hans Benjamin
is a professor of theoretical physics. And as far as I can understand, it's very difficult to
contradict him, which is actually borne out by the fact that he sent all this information to,
I think, many, many different agencies around the world who should have a view, including the United
Nations Security Council. And they haven't responded at all. Nobody's made any response.
They haven't taken any action against Hans Benjamin, cancelled him or anything. They've
just ignored him. Actually, in the meantime, I have to add, I had a contact in Sweden, and
it has been sent to the Swedish prosecutor. So he was interested in it. Oh, since you spoke to us.
Very good. Yeah, that's just how I got that this morning. Oh, excellent. Yes. So we'll talk later
about that. So Alec, in the 12 minute video, the comment was made and crucially relevant, clean
air, soil and water. Now, the relevance of that to health in terms of the end of COVID. So,
you know, the industrial, military and the industrial and military complex in the US driving
the whole chemicalization of soil. The view in Australia, and certainly in America is the
destruction of soil from the chemicalization of it. So what is your thinking from putting this
information together about, you know, that you say, here's, here's, here's what we're, we're told,
there's a climate emergency. Well, that is a nonsense. But we have a soil emergency,
we have a water emergency, we have a waste emergency. So where does the end of COVID,
the information you've got the deal, go with this drama, this problem that we have to deal with?
Yeah, I would say that it is pertaining or the focus on the end of COVID, and especially in the
last two modules, a new health story, part one and two is to give frameworks and and modalities
for healing after we've dissolved the false germ hypothesis. Now with that, of course, I think the
the health of the soil, the health of our air and the health of our water are vital to our health
as human beings like that, that is without question. And I think that the accepted climate
narrative and the accepted path by which the so called authorities direct us to or attempt to
direct us to to resolve this non existent climate issue is ultimately perpetuating the problem.
So this is something that would that would be better served to be covered in its entire
in its entirety elsewhere, it we don't cover it extensively during the end of COVID.
But I of course, agree with everything that you've just said. And I think cleaning up our soil and
that doesn't mean like sterilizing our soil. That means allowing microbial life to flourish in our
soil and cleaning up our air of industrial pollutants. And I don't buy into the nonsense
that cow farts cause global warming whatsoever. And and then also cleaning up our water
is paramount to health. And that's something that maybe I could cover later on maybe I'll do that
for a future production of mine. Very good. Thank you. Okay, Steven last five minutes before
Ellie goes over to you. Yeah, so um, so just something that's kind of come to my mind.
So I would say they're trying to say that all these emergencies occurring. I would say it's
just nonsense. There is no emergency. The only emergency is the gradual descent into global
totalitarianism. That's an emergency. And also the the treason worldwide treason, the betrayal of
the people by the very people who are paid to protect them, you know, protect the nation's
interests, which of course they're not doing. So I don't think they're, you know, even on this group,
people say that it's this emergency and that no, I'm sorry, there are no emergencies, you know,
we're not unique in the last 50 years or 100 years. How on earth have human beings survived
all this time? And actually, we're increasing in numbers. So that tells me that the species is
actually successful. Despite all the problems or despite all their emergencies. The whole thing is
just nonsense. And it needs to be exposed. It's all about propaganda, fraud, propaganda, censorship,
totalitarianism, and treason worldwide. And treason used to be a terrible thing.
Doesn't seem to be any longer. Look at Biden in America. The southern border is a good example.
So anyway, that's all I have to say. But maybe you've got some closing comments, Alec.
Yeah, so I think my closing comments would be to emphasize, and I talked to him, it's funny,
because I caught I closed on the last time I was on Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics saying
something roughly similar, that from a young age, we are taught to deny our own observations
and experiences with respect to our lives and look to so called authority figures for guidance.
And we've come to a point in history, where there are men and women who are really children
walking around in the bodies of men and women who are no longer looking to their mommy and
daddy for guidance or their school teachers for guidance and are simply looking to the government
and the so called authorities for guidance. And even for those, yeah, last thing, even for those
of us who are awake to what's going on, we still believe at some level that the men and women who
call themselves government have legitimate power and authority over us. We are hallucinating
their authority into existence by our own conditioned beliefs. The reality is they are
just men and women, just as we are men and women. And the moment all of us in the health and truth
and freedom movements begin to no longer look at them as legitimate authority figures and begin to
live our lives authentically according to how we want them to be lived and then encourage other
people kindly to do the same thing, all of this nonsense stops. Absolutely. But so many people
are so afraid of taking responsibility. Oh, they don't even want to do any research because actually
it might mean in the end that they have to do something to protect their children.
It's a pathetic state of affairs, but I don't really blame them. They've been psychologically
tortured into a state of Stockholm syndrome, but also their whole role as parents and grandparents
has been undermined by the damned state. And these people operating the state are just our servants.
That's why I say statism is the biggest disease. Yeah, but the problem, one of the problems I've
been alerted to Alec and maybe you can think about this, is that these globalists, they want to
destroy the nation states. They want the people to turn around and say our politicians are hopeless
and then they step in and say we'll save you with global government, world governments. See, I could
see that to some degree, but irrespective of what they're attempting to do, because of course there
is a, I don't like calling it a communist takeover of America. I would say rather it's like a fascist
takeover of America. It's really more fascism, but that's a longer conversation. But the point is
like irrespective of the type of government, I think that we're told we have a democracy in
the United States. And let's pretend for a second that the democracy is functioning as it's intended
to, that our votes actually count, that there's fair democratic processes in place and the
presidents are actually elected. The idea that one man who supposedly represents the position
of the majority should be put in place to then create laws, codes, acts, and statutes. And I
understand there's three branches of government, but for the purpose of time, I'll just shorten
that and say creates laws, codes, acts, and statutes to then implement and wield upon the
entire population, including the so-called minority who may disagree with them and have
the threat and use of force for those who don't comply is absolutely absurd, especially given that
the majority is oftentimes completely wrong on a number of issues. Absolutely. That majority
perspective is then being pushed on to all society through exactly democracy when actually the
solutions come from individuals who are pure in their thoughts and in their vision. But that's
not emphasized, of course, but you read Tolstoy and he talks about that. Yeah, and it might some
final final add-on from the perspective of a physicist. It is actually in physics is interesting
if you look at systems which are entirely uniform, then certain perturbations can
propagate without any resistance. So it's like avalanche which spreads and that's in terms of
take whatever it is, it's some negative influence in nature, then you have wiped out the whole system.
So it's actually diversity in itself which means also suboptimal entities are absolutely essential
to actually keep a whole system in a general way. Absolutely, Hans. So we need autonomous human
beings if only to prevent these deadly cults which the human beings seem to like. Yeah,
yeah. Self-governing, self-ownership is the two things that I think are the most important
pieces to ensure none of this nonsense. Yes, exactly. I gotta go though, you guys. Thank you
so much for having me. It is an honor and please be sure to check out the end of covid.com and help
us spread the word to get this out to the masses so that we can ensure none of this nonsense ever
happens again. So Alec, one of the things I've noticed that you're a bridge between some of the
extreme no-covid people and we need those people. We don't want them talking about one thing,
they need to learn about the other things as well that you are open to and Kevin Corbett's another.
Excellent, he's really bright, Kevin Corbett. Yeah, love Kevin, he's great and there's a lot
of great people that may not completely agree with the no-virus perspective that still
definitely have worthwhile things to say and I guess this is a relevant point that I gotta go.
Where I draw the line is I draw the line with respect to people who don't adopt the no-virus
position if they are actively censoring and avoiding conversations surrounding it. That's
where I draw the line and there are several people who are actively censoring with their respective
the largest actually health freedom platforms this conversation and will not go there for
several reasons and I've written an open letter to these individuals namely Del Bigtree and
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and I understand the political reasons etc etc but I cover all that in my article
kindly inviting them to simply broach this topic not take a stance on it broach this topic with
their respective audiences. I guess I can share that that article here it has over 40,000 views
it's from my sub stack and I think it's highly relevant right now for those who are not fully
on board with a no-virus position that are oftentimes slandered called controlled opposition and things
like this who are essentially just people with a different perspective or they may have not done
the research or they may have done the research and they just don't agree with it. There's a number
of reasons that people haven't come to the no-virus position. I will speak very clearly that I do not
think there is any proof whatsoever that viruses exist or cause any sort of disease and I'm very
clear about that I've been clear a number of times but not everyone who isn't on board with
that perspective is a controlled opposition disinformation agent or anything like this it's
nonsense to think that. Absolutely so there are some people who think it's the wrong time
to bring it up because it's going to slow down the process of educating the people. And I disagree
with them but I ultimately like can put myself in their shoes and see why they think that without
having done as deep of a dive as I and others have done with respect to this issue and that's the
problem with this dynamic is that in general people aren't able to put themselves in the shoes
of others to sort of think why is it that they're behaving this way what conditioning do they have
what are do they have an identity attachment to this is there financial implications is it that
they don't want to be seen as crazy do they think it's akin to some like like holocaust denialism
like the point is there are several reasons why and it doesn't make it right but it allows you to
sort of take the weight off of your own shoulders when you can put yourself in other people's shoes
and say ah okay I see why they're behaving this way and rather than immediately just cut them off
and say you're controlled opposition I want to invite them to into deeper conversations on this
topic because I have had success in taking doctors who were pro-vaccine and getting them
to understand the no virus position by approaching them kindly yes alec I absolutely agree with you
saying no novel symptoms no pandemic I absolutely agree that these all the vaccinations need to be
looked at again but not just the vaccinations because the whole pharmaceutical conglomerates
if you like they need to be looked at and that means we have to look at all their so-called
medicines yeah but the other thing that I was thinking about which are very just very quickly
the detoxing everybody's talking about the protocols that in my view is not how you practice
you know even the kind of medicine that we maybe favor now with the protocols because why
because it stops autonomous doctors from making so it becomes a tyranny and the other thing is that
none of these protocols as far as I have seen has ever suggested that people around the world in
many different countries have been psychologically tortured and they really need counseling yeah
because they totally agree last comment I'll make someone in the chat post it posted it goes both
ways no virus people are continually harassed and accused of being controlled off as well yeah
exactly I was just accused by this virologist who is a anti-vaccine virologist by the name of Adam
Garrett I forget his name Adam something on twitter he tried to insinuate that I'm
intentionally misleading people and misleading the truth movement as an attempt to divert people
away from the truth about viruses and yes it absolutely happens on both sides and I get called
controlled opposition all the time by people who believe that there was a gain of function virus but
the point is I think it's ridiculous on both sides it shows a limited
it shows it I guess it shows a lack of maturity and immediately calling other people
who simply don't have the same perspective who may not have done the research that you have done who
may not have explored this topic who are in a state of perpetual cognitive dissonance who have
identities formed around it etc etc etc immediately calling them controlled opposition doesn't do
anyone good and again the exception there for me personally this was a very very very
this is me personally speaking is those who are actively misrepresenting our perspective intentionally
while also refusing to talk to us blocking us and refusing to come to the table censoring this topic
etc etc I have no tolerance for people like that and that is what I have personally experienced
with Children's Health Defense the organization and personally experienced with Dell Big Tree so
that's what I'll that's what I'll leave everyone with again thank you for having me
really appreciate it. Great work Alec thank you. I do I would say one thing about Children's Health
Defense I think RFK Jr has a very difficult job everybody wants to be working with him and against
oh he's gone so now the what I'm going to do I'm going to do this deliberately I'm going to stop
the recording after Hans Benjamin you talk and then we'll start it again because because this
is now that was the Alec's presentation I want to have that separately on Rumble channel it might
be a useful Q&A to post but let's Hans Benjamin Alex Bailey said he has shared your recording with
with his list of 150 000 media links through France and other places.
Okay. And so just repeat what you said earlier that that Sweden the Swedish prosecutors interested
and the other point was that one of Tom Rodman's connections is going to share the recording with
Bobby Kennedy because it's clearly relevant to the presidential. So Charles why would you stop
the recording if Hans Benjamin. I said after Hans speaks on this because because what people talk
about might be well you know it's a we can't know the question is whether it should be because
it's not to do with Alec precisely it could be I see sorry yes oh but I think what we're talking
about now is very important so it should be recorded if only you're not listening Alec did
his presentation we can put this up as a Q&A following Alec's presentation so said video
but I want Hans Benjamin I want to discuss how we can help you sorry I'm misunderstood sorry yeah
so in essence so what do you want to you want me to summarize everything again no
or you just want to respond to questions I've just brought it to people's attention again
Alex Bailey has shared it and others are sharing it and it was a masterful presentation and
reminding all of us to share it with people who may take action on it rather than being a
code of a code of silence about your great work that's the point yeah yeah no I that's I mean I'm
overwhelmed right I mean because after so such a long time of absolute you know it was like
it was like this explosion it was a calm sea and suddenly something comes out of that sea which is
highly visible and yeah I know I'm very humbled also that you yeah that you that you can see also
the scientific basis of these arguments I think that's that's very important I think what I
realized that some articles appeared now and you know kind of popular news outlets and then you
get all these comments of where you actually can see that it is actually important we have been
critical of science of course you know with respect to all these um crisis which we had
but as scientists we need to have a network where first we have sort of a close discussion among
scientists because we know the tools and we have the tools to to openly discuss and to to insect
arguments because if you go too soon out to the public the public they have no ideas about
scientific methodology right so um so it is important that it grows within that kind of
cluster of scientists of competent or all of others who actually have the competence and then
they actually and then it proceeds and it's actually interesting this is also related to
physics you know how how are how is information propagated and if you look at for example how
crystallization occurs if if the nucleus where something crystallizes is too small it shrinks
back right it doesn't it doesn't grow and constantly in this in in in such a state you have
certain elements which grows but only when they actually attain a critical critical size then it
actually grows right of course people in social media take advantage of all of this but um I
think there is an additional layer that's what I mentioned that it needs to first grow among
people who have the insight in in this object and then what usually happens is that the interface
between the public and science has been damaged for a long time also actually deliberately
because of this division of research which is behind the fence like in this case of of nuclear
weapons we have no insight even I I mean I hear things from colleagues and I can't infer oh maybe
they're able to do this but I have to speculate what they actually do and then suddenly you have
science which should be part of society which is completely fenced off from from the rest of society
and then as you mentioned before you have then these these industrial you know whatever conglomerates
which take advantage of this and by that you you you literally tear society apart right because
you have a two-class society you know you have the gains you take all the advantages also financial
ones and you have to rest who just has to tolerate you know who are in essence like
exaggerated but they are like slaves of the system because they have no rights and they have no
insight so and they have no resources and Daniel Estreland Daniel Estreland went through that last
week with us and pointed out the movie Elysium produced in 2013 which was precisely about that
issue of the elites living okay interest off the planet and then the bulk of people living on a
destroyed earth so that is precisely Hans Benjamin what the game plan is the global cabal the elite
and then and then the useless eaters yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no that is and and again we I think
what I also sensed when I was going through I mean it's it's sort of a this investigation
or three wasn't the only one I did a few things which I wanted to add with kovac but that's
I think in all the context and do that because I think it's significant statistical results I
think which which could be of help also maybe for you guys but maybe we discuss about that nature
but this issue that we need to restructure society from back that also has been alluded to before
back from the individuals right so essentially the individuals we need to have a society where
the individuals have the right to be happy to lead happy lives right and whereas now this is sort of
of in some absolutist way is being they're being told how they have to be happy and we have media
we have movies you know we have this we have that then we are happy but it's not true we are happy
if we are surrounded with people who actually give us warmth give us acceptance criticize us
and that we can have a dignified life with them and that is the ultimate that is the ultimate goal
and that maybe takes takes me back to that aspect of medicine and of doctors and also of artificial
intelligence which we had the last time I mean a medical doctor is also a person of confidence
for the patients and actually at at all levels literally where he or she feels unwell and if the
medical profession is too much divided in specialties right the specialist can no longer or have the
tendency not to see the human being as a whole and whereas actually a patient I think wants to see
somebody where he can confide in about his well-being in a very general sense and because
that requires empathy from the medical person it's also clear that this interaction cannot be
replied replaced by artificial intelligence yeah I agree with you Hans so you're very insightful
thank you yeah yeah well as a physicist you want to try to explain things yes yes so um
Hans Benjamin the question that this group has often grappled with and your perspective as an
educator particularly you know in terms of you know we're seeing the universities that have been
taken over by the woke brigade but in your long experience here we've you know we've got the
people on the fence on the virus debate we've got people who would would give their lives to say of
course there's viruses and then there's those who say this is a total fraud what are your perspectives
on you know on on you know Stephen created this group and there are people in those three camps
and all along that spectrum
for me that's entirely okay that that's part of scientific discussion I mean every every single
group needs to put their hypothesis and the facts which are consistent with their hypothesis it's
also I think we need to go back to I think people tend to forget you know Poppe and Kuhn you know
the science philosophers it is a scientific theory is actually one it's valid as a scientific
theory if it can be objected it's not if it can be confirmed but it needs to have the quality that
you can actually disprove it so only again so so a prop a hypothesis is only a proper hypothesis
if it's capable of being disproved is that correct exactly exactly so that exactly exactly
exactly and and also actually the act of confirming a hypothesis is much less important than actually
trying to find to contradict it and with the whole publication circus which we have
glossy magazines you know and ever more elaborate figures we are actually in the trap of trying to
find confirming one and the same thing again and again and very little credit is being given to
those or groups or whatever who actually try to challenge the existing hypotheses
absolutely always at this point where really big progress happened so hans have they do you think
that there's a policy or a strategy to actively discourage people um hypothesizing because that's
what we've always done that's what medical doctors did and all of a sudden they stopped
I mean I I can say it out of my own experience which is I mean that's maybe it sounds a bit
egotistical but it is my experience so I can talk about it I would say every single thing not that
many things but maybe three four which I did in my career which I thought were really leaps forward
every single one was silenced I mean but really side so um the first one was work which I did on
the limits of data storage I think I mentioned that in my talk um so I was deriving limits
how the dimensions of materials of crystals literally have to be chosen in these platters
of hard disks such that thermal fluctuations are not detrimental and I gave a criterion about this
like nearly 30 years ago you know 27 years ago and as a theorist you never get a patent that's
another thing you know just write it down you publish it and then it just disappeared and it's
only about a couple of years ago that I found out the existing materials which you have in all those
hard disk drives in all data centers they exactly satisfy that criterion you know they're chosen so
they whether they used it or they figured it out but that's again a thing you as an academic you
find oh this is an interesting challenging problem you do it you write down the solution
and then there is the industry which has zero interest and I think you can translate that
probably one to one with the medical industry they have zero interest to give you any credit
for it because that would be a financial loss right so so there is no interest so then you
are trapped as a researcher if you do research then your colleagues say oh he does applied stuff
you know that's not really cutting-edge stuff that's applied so what are you doing right and
on the other on the other side you're totally silenced and that partially answers your question
you know does the system not really give support that and I would say well it does not only support
it actually it hinders it because ultimately this is these are things which bring humanity forward
yes and that's what they want to kill because they can't control the the autonomous scientist
who and autonomous scientists in the plural so what they've done is they've controlled the funding
they've said that this is the way to do randomized controls trials clinical trials very expensive to
conduct and the only people who can afford to conduct them are the establishment yeah yeah
exactly but those are the big labs right with the gigantic labs and I think I think also there this
is a really that's a complete paradigm shift when this funding stuff occurred because before look at
for example Einstein he wrote the paper and I think it was even his his famous paper on the Einstein
Podolsky-Rosen paradox he sent it to physical reviews and then the editor wrote back well I
cannot decide yet I have to send it to referees okay and Einstein replied I didn't ask you to
send it out to referees I asked you to publish it so the last thing you want so when you've got
someone who's incredibly creative the last thing you want is a committee judging whether it's
worthy of publication yeah that that's something actually that you're committing by definition
yeah yeah it I call it in physically call it a mean field theory if you have a theory which
average out averages out all fluctuations all over a system you know it just flattens out everything
then this is called mean field and actually certain things you can describe but certain
fine features of phase transitions are completely it's completely off right you just don't get them
and if you eliminate fluctuations you know that you know that from evolution right evolution
actually happens in the tails of a distribution it doesn't happen where the maximum is of the
guys how can it you know it happens very far out in the tails so if you cut off if you say oh we
cut off a plus minus sigma right that's it and all the rest is kind of pathological and wrong and
weird well then you have destroyed evolution you know absolutely so is this compromise always bad
and in your opinion um I think in science I would say big groups and I mean that's my statement I
would say the creativity goes down like one over the number of co-authors in a paper absolutely
so because because you have I mean at least because you have to maybe it's even exponential
I don't know it's because if you have really something which is new then you wrestle with
yourself actually and you try to check it you know from different angles and that's a very
creative and also painful it's actually literally a painful process because you're sitting here at
night and you say nothing makes sense and usually it's at those moments where you're completely
desperate right and you want the whole want to throw the whole thing out the window that's
usually when you say when you suddenly oh wow now I've found it right already that is nearly
impossible to do that with two people you know you just can't you know you kind of call your
colleague in the middle of night you say yeah and then you and then you enter a sort of arguing
battle and the whole creativity is lost you know absolutely so that was what we were discussing
the other night that so people to have the confidence to think on their own without
checking with someone else that is a popular opinion exactly and what requires such individuals
and if the whole education system is actually designed not to create such individuals you
you have wrecked the whole system sure so then you've got a mobile phone system the smartphones
you know and the social media and the whole thing is designed to teach children to seek popularity
through likes and pictures of hearts you know which is this mean field right that's
essentially a one with the crowd which means evolution is gone right so it's brainwashing
the one with the crowd yeah yeah plus it's an addiction it's a dangerous addiction
yeah yeah yeah no it's it's it's you're absolutely right and that's why I say we need to I mean
when it needs to start I mean from the bottom up at the education with children and that they
actually go out I mean I used to I used to be outside all the time okay on my own but I was
you know looking around in nature and I was I was I had a decent garden so I could study how
the plants grow and I could you know have my own seeds and do experiments with that and of course
not everybody is like that you know you can't force it but at least give children the chance
that they can get interested in that because if they don't even see the chance how would they
ever know whether they are interested in it or not you know but Hans they haven't got they haven't
got time to to experiment in their in their gardens now because they've got to seek because
everything is yeah yeah yeah I know I know and that is also I mean that's the big gift of of
childhood is that children have time I mean I created all sorts of games when I was a child
just you know because we we didn't have like you know an abundance of money so I just did the games
I looked up how these games work and then I I took paper and cardboard I drew them myself you know
and I mean it works just as well as a game as as a glossy thing which other people already made up
and that that's and that kind of aspect you know needs to be
children need to have that freedom again you know because they then they can also discover themselves
as as as full human beings as entire human beings because that's what I
maybe we should be concentrating on setting up schools again around Europe and America
Australia you know proper schools where they actually teach children something that's worth
knowing yes yes yes and also I mean a school that I mean the last thing you teach children a
programming language I mean I mean how how brain dead is that absolutely I mean you can do that
you know before you have your high school you do that but if you actually are being taught in for
example in really learning a language I mean I for example I learned Greek and Latin and that was
sort of an analytical process as well and it also gives you insight into history into culture into
pastimes into philosophy and everything and once you know a structure of a language I mean you learn
a programming language in a couple of lectures in the evening yeah anyway once you actually have
ended school then the program at the popular programming language is a different one so what
you just need to have actually one you need to have this syntactic let's say core right and once
you have that you can build it around and I think we now build everything like a shell all these
shells but we don't build the robust foundations anymore you know from which we cannot much well
let me let me show you the wheel of action that's been shared with this group Hans Benjamin
and this wheel of action I'm awaiting for that and proposes those 12 key educational areas
so this whole issue of what that would look like so there's been some thinking done on this I will
I will you know email this to you it's a useful tool it's seven clear steps and the
tied into your point of education I'll also share shortly a piece that in 1776 at the time of
independence to get into to finish school you needed to be able to speak Greek and Latin
Stephen in America and England the educational demands on students were 50 times greater than
what they are today absolutely yeah yeah yeah you needed Latin to get into medical school for
example yes but interestingly interestingly Charles and Hans and everybody I wanted my to
explore I learned I learned Latin at school and I was pretty good at it actually unfortunately our
two of our Latin teachers had a predilection for suicide and one shot himself I think he wasn't
really but and the other very unfortunately walked into the sea and kept on walking
in January and so that was very sad and I you know as a child I was thinking well is this something
about Latin you know that drives people to suicide and I shouldn't laugh but the thing was that I
wanted to expose my children to Latin and and then I realized that actually they couldn't learn Latin
in the in the schools even in the private schools so I thought well I'm not going to be stopped I'm
going to pay for private lessons for my three children and I did do and I don't regret it
because actually that's the one subject which they now say that they benefited most from well have a
read of this Hans Benjamin everybody why we need to go back to educational standards of the 1700s
they also studied the philosophers as grade school children yep and here's this quote when
Alexander Hamilton entered King's entered King's College he in 70 yeah expect the mastery of Greek
and Latin grand bounties three orations from Cicero Virgil's Aeneid able to translate the first 10
chapters of the gospel from Greek into Latin Thomas Jefferson Latin Greek and French how's this
isn't that extraordinary that's great Charles that's really great it's just yeah it just blows
my mind we think we've progressed Hans Benjamin so you're an educator I mean you are dealing with
the end results of this schooling system and we've you know we all think we all have a view on
education because of course we're all experts in it because we've all been educated but I think
I think Hans is very unusual in the world of education particularly you know so so it seems
to me that the professors are the most afraid of speaking out so one thing that you've got these
wonderful views Hans but you are prepared to share them with us that's really great and you're not
you know I was telling someone about you I said you're just telling you're a nice guy you just
tell your story there's no animus you're not as angry as I am about what's happened but um but
your your integrity is just beyond you know nobody listening to you can doubt your integrity and
your humanity and Stephen as as El Exec reminded us with kindness yes and very courageous but not
kind of in a dare not not you know not taunting not taunting our enemies you're just saying what
you're what you think and saying to these people to anyone challenge me if you can and they can't do
it all right so so um it's two hours and five minutes so I'm going to stop the recording
unless someone wants to make a statement and then we can you know there's there's a chat but I've got
other stuff to do so I'm glad we're finished early um so Hans Benjamin we will do our best to
spread your message and um so anyone else wants to raise any topic so we don't have to focus on you
Hans Benjamin but I'm delighted that you are here to reinforce what you've done
um so I'll stop the recording and then we can have a free for all