Do you want me to do the introduction again, Charles?
A shorter version of the introduction, please, John.
I'm sorry, everybody.
We have today the opportunity to hear from two of the very involved, more distinguished
members of the J6 movement.
And for the J6 movement, for those of you who may not be familiar with it, it stems
back to the 2020 election.
January 6th was the day the election was supposed to be certified in Congress.
The J6 movement started with a protest meeting that Donald Trump was holding outside of the
White House area of Washington, D.C.
And the protest went up to Capitol Hill and actually entered into the Capitol.
And as a result, it was, I believe you're going to hear today, there was an entrapment
for the deep state that wanted to characterize these protesters as white supremacists, as
extremists, as essentially unloyal to the Constitution.
This was an insurrection, is what the deep state said.
And a large number, up to 1,500 of them, faced prosecution.
And their lives have been ruined for the past four years.
Many have been in prison for four years without any trials, which completely violates U.S.
civil rights and judicial system rules and regulations.
But their stories, I think, are compelling.
And this is one of the most important tests of American freedoms that we've had in our
history.
These two gentlemen have both been extremely involved in the J6 movement and also on veterans
for Trump going back to 2015-2016.
It's a real honor to have them with us.
Joshua Macias, who's a chaplain, Derek Storms, who is an attorney, both of whom are ex-vets
with distinguished careers.
I'm going to have them each do a short introduction of themselves.
Derek has the least time with us.
Then I'll go to Derek for a longer statement and to Joshua for a longer statement.
We may have a second round of those before questioning if possible.
So Derek, the floor is yours if you want to do your introductory statement, please.
Thank you, Dr. Corsese.
So I'm a trial lawyer out of New York City.
I'm also involved in dealing with protecting constitutional rights for various groups.
That's how I got involved with the J6 movement.
I'm currently chief legal officer for J6 vets, which is an umbrella for a lot of other organizations
that were involved with the J6 movement.
I view what the federal government did in J6, the way that these men and women were
prosecuted as one of the most egregious violation of constitutional rights in modern history.
Even bigger than what happened during COVID.
I think COVID was the start of this where they started silencing people.
The government started deplatforming people that didn't necessarily agree with their views.
They took it to the extreme here.
What they did is they made an entrapment operation, which basically they infiltrated these J6 groups
with federal agents.
They had intel agencies involved and they coerced them into entering the Capitol to
make it as violent as possible because what they wanted to do was they wanted to basically
put them in jail and silence anybody that was speaking out against the election, anybody
that wanted to challenge the vote counting.
That's really what we've seen since COVID in America and in other parts of the world.
We've seen it in Australia where the government was very, very heavy handed if you spoke out
against COVID and things of that nature and frankly all over the world.
This was kind of a global operation that governments collaborated in doing to silence opposition.
That's how I got involved.
We've done a lot of lobbying with President Trump to pardon all of the J6ers.
As Dr. Corsi said, there was about 1,500 of them who were criminally convicted or in the
process of trials.
There was over 250 who were incarcerated.
Trump, in his first day of office, he did a full pardon for all of them except for about
14.
He did release all of them, but the 14, he didn't do a full pardon, but those cases are
being looked at more closely to see if a full pardon can be given.
We do support a full pardon and the reason is while we don't condone violence, we do
support law enforcement, we don't support entrapment operations.
We don't support the federal government coercing people to break the law and to do things of
that nature and when it's found that the government does that, we believe a full pardon is the
appropriate remedy and I believe that Trump made the right decision for freedom by releasing
all of these men and women out of jail.
Josh can go into more detail of the horrific conditions that the J6ers endured, but many
of them were in solitary confinement, their lives were destroyed, several of them committed
suicide, and I think the big lesson here for humanity is that the people need to stand
up when our rights are violated.
We cannot just sit back and say, I need to be quiet, I don't want to lose my job, I don't
want to get deplatformed, I have too much to lose because you're going to be next.
They're coming for you next and that's why what we're doing now is we're moving on to
the second front, which is accountability.
I believe that accountability starts from the top down, which is our elected officials.
So we're launching Project Primary where we're going to hold elected officials accountable
for complicity in violating rights and not supporting an agenda that supports the people,
that a government that serves themselves rather than the people.
So really is a populist movement that we're embarking on and this is just the beginning.
And I'll turn it over to Josh.
And just one thing, I apologize, I'm traveling, so I'm going to log out and Dr. Corsi, I'll
log in on my phone and I can probably come back in the cab and at the airport.
Okay, that's fine.
And thank you very much.
When you join us again, we'll pick it up for a statement from you.
Okay, very good.
And a statement, think about, I'd like you to address why you think it was entrapment,
what you think the offenses were committed by the government and what steps you're going
to take to go after not only elected officials but also Department of Justice or even the
prison officials who were involved in mistreatment of the prisoners.
So what are the next steps?
So you can think about the legal issues and we'll look forward to you joining us again
when you're on your way to Mar-a-Lago, I believe.
Yes, yes, heading there tonight.
Josh and I are both in there.
Okay, well good.
You get started and we'll pick up with you.
One question before we go, how long have you been in the military and how long have you
been an attorney?
I've been an attorney for about 14, 15 years.
I was in the military, the Marine Corps for four years.
It was my first job out of high school.
I was an infantryman for about a year and then I went reconnaissance Marine, which is
kind of like the spec ops of the Marine Corps.
And I served in the Iraq war behind enemy lines in a recon unit.
Right.
Thank you.
Well done.
Congratulations.
We'll see you when you get back.
You're very welcome.
Thank you very much.
Okay, Derek.
And Joshua, if you now do it in a...
Jerome, can I ask you, because the recording was not on, can you think about what you said
in both introductions and maybe say a little bit more about the importance of this case
for people in other countries who don't quite understand what it's about?
Is there anything that you think you've missed out on reflection?
I'll make a couple of comments in addition before we introduce Joshua.
The issue here is that the 2020 election, from all appearances, was stolen.
Donald Trump was leading the election throughout the evening in a solid lead.
It looked like he was headed towards basically a blowout election where he was going to win
massively.
And then many people went to sleep thinking he was going to win.
In the middle of the night, many states stopped counting.
There were seven states in particular called the battleground states that stopped counting.
Pennsylvania stopped counting.
It was Pennsylvania, I have to think, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia.
These states simply stopped counting.
And then in the middle of the night, ballots started showing up, which were mail-in ballots,
and they started getting run through the machines.
Now the continued counting of votes went on for several days.
And when the counting resumed, Biden suddenly jumped above Trump in the percentage of ballots
that came in, and he stayed above Trump and won the election.
And so many of these ballots were mail-in ballots, which are inherently suspect.
And there were a lot of questions forensically about the ballots, whether they were fake
or not fake.
Subsequently, we've done a lot of investigation, godsfivestones.com, which is the 501C3 I've
created with Dr. Carl Dean Graves.
We have investigated the State Board of Election databases and found that there are algorithms
in the State Board of Election databases that permit the creation of false voters, false
voter records, that yet get legitimate state IDs to vote, and can be voted with certifiable
votes that are counted, even though the voters don't exist.
And this has led now to an investigation that's ongoing.
Donald Trump is leading it with his attorneys, and some of the down-ballot elections in 2024
will be challenged.
Senate and congressional records, which were stolen in 2024, appear to have been.
2020, the presidential election was also stolen, I think because we found the algorithms, they
were not used in the presidential election this time around.
At any rate, the background is that on January 6, 2020, Donald Trump held a rally outside
the White House, and this was widely attended by people who had come to the Capitol to protest
the almost obvious stealing of the elections.
And January 6 was important because this was the time in which Congress has a special joint
session, House and Senate, that's presided over by the Vice President, and each state
reports its electoral votes.
Electoral votes are distinct from the popular vote.
The states are distributed electoral votes that allow some of the smaller states to be
more completely represented.
Were simply a popular vote, the smaller states would not have any real say at a presidential
election, but our founding fathers created an electoral college system to try to rebalance
so that states, even small states, had an input.
Mike Pence's Vice President was not challenging the various states where there was obvious
indications of fraud, and the protest movement started going to the Capitol, which is a fairly
long and the cold walk between the White House and Capitol Hill, and at Capitol Hill, it
was guarded, but apparently the guards and the others actually encouraged the protesters
to come inside the building and protest while the certification was going on, and subsequently
the protesters, especially those who entered the Capitol, were considered to have committed
an insurrection, and the deep state began to go after them to prosecute them.
They were videoed, they were taped.
I think it was an entrapment scheme.
We're going to hear arguments to that effect.
And protesters were subsequently sought by law enforcement, by the FBI.
They were investigated.
Many of them were indicted.
Many were convicted at trials.
Others have been imprisoned for four years without trials.
The imprisonment has been rather brutal.
We'll hear descriptions of that.
The issue is really the challenging, the ability to challenge in protests that were peaceful
a legitimate election, and the deep state using its power, including the power of the
press to characterize everyone as insurrectionists and to make it a criminal process that their
protest entered the Capitol.
And again, we're going to hear a lot about this, and Derek will join us.
Derek is pressing many of the cases, and will be very involved in the investigation of the
Department of Justice deep state, which is now going on.
And Donald Trump was also a victim of this.
I was a victim of it.
The Mueller investigation wanted to put me in prison as well.
And I refused to take their plea deal, and they closed the Mueller investigation, Russian
collusion.
So we all have shared this deep state's protest and attempt to suppress a conservative movement
in support of Donald Trump and the Constitution.
These two gentlemen with us are both former military.
They have got distinguished military careers.
They have been part of the J-6 movement.
They are still part of the J-6 movement.
They're leaders in the J-6 movement.
And I'm going to now have Joshua Macias, who's also a chaplain, former Navy veteran, who
served at largely dealing with drug interdiction.
Both these gentlemen have experienced combat of one kind or another, a bit under fire,
and have served with distinction in the military, and are now working hard with the veterans
to improve veterans' conditions with specific reference to the veterans who were among the
J-6 movement.
Not all the J-6ers were veterans, but a sizable proportion of them were.
So Stephen, did that cover some of the points you want to cover?
Excellent, Jerome, excellent.
Okay, thank you.
So Joshua, we'll now turn to you for an introduction.
And until Derek returns, Joshua, you've got the floor, and I'll let you uninterrupted
make your statement.
So when Derek comes back, we'll bring him in.
But you've got the floor to make, take as long as you want to make a statement and say
what's on your mind.
This group will be very, very interested.
So we're honored to have you with us, and we look forward to your statement.
So the floor is yours.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, gentlemen, doctors and distinguished members.
Thank you so much for even considering the conversation of talking about the date of
J-6 and how it affected our community.
First and foremost, just a little bit of background about myself and others in this
community.
I served in the US Navy from 96 to 2002, honorably was discharged.
I was a electrician and also a small boat electrician.
Our ship was the first one to pull into Yemen in 99 after 19 years.
We poked what I say is the bee's nest in Yemen, and everyone's been shooting the same bees
ever since.
I worked with a lot of international communities as well in the Persian Gulf and counter-narco
terrorism down in South America.
I had the blessing to work with Kiwis, Aussies, IDF, UK, you name it, international supports
when it came to fighting terrorism at a global terrorism perspective.
Built a lot of great rapport.
I've now been out 20 years, and I got to say a lot's changed, but a lot hasn't.
When it comes to fighting counter-terrorism and counter-narco, it's gotten worse, quite
frankly.
Having served honorably for six years, I was in hurt in the line of work in transport down
to Mayport, Florida.
I was working in the search and rescue community, working with the BUDs community, which are
the Navy SEALs.
The tier one hyper-elite relationships were there from training.
I got hurt, T-boned by a 19-year-old, a major car accident.
I said, that's it.
I posted my time out of service, and then I followed my career path into MD-PhD, where
I became a biomedical engineer, actually the youngest biomedical engineer manager at the
time for GE Healthcare, which I helped to see the transition of medical records from
analog to digital.
Part of that transition with Phillips, with a very large organization here, Centero Network,
multi-billion dollar hospital community.
It was quite frankly, inside that community, understanding best practices, working with
the directors of many hospitals, Mendes, as well as cardiac units, having gone inside
the OR so many times, working with surgeons for their electrical needs, whatever it was,
working with a scope or a laser.
From that experience, I wanted to bring that best practices to the VA, and quite frankly,
was super disenfranchised by the socialized medicine that I saw there as I was working
towards my MD-PhD.
I then focused on IO psychology PhD candidate and worked inside that field, helping with
brain-computer interface and bringing technology into doctors and MDs hands to help our veterans
with traumatic brain injury focus training.
I have a very big background in IT, electronics, biomedical engineering, and as I was working
on my MD, went into IO psychology.
Very much connected with the frontline doctor community.
I commend you for your bravery and for all of you who have continued to fight the good
fight.
And very much at the beginning of all this, at the height of the COVID questioning, I
pulled in a lot of our counter-terrorism relationships and said, this is a bio weapon.
And we knew immediately what was occurring as well against us, having been injected with
so much.
Come to find out, a lot of us who served between 88 and 96 already had the COVID antibodies,
and we were discussing this all throughout the military community as to what we could
do to help our families and others.
As this was all occurring, we were also watching in 2020 the election of our lifetime being
stolen from us after working so diligently in 2015.
I helped President Trump come up with the 10.B reform plan, which we launched in order
for real VA to occur and real change because we were losing at the time over 27 veterans
a day to self-inflicted wounds.
And I made it my chaplaincy perspective and my wife's work to eradicate veteran suicide
in the U.S. and through a lot of our work over on the other side of the pond as well,
pulled a lot of our veterans in through our hurts over in the U.K. and throughout the
country, throughout the world, quite frankly, to help them with what their needs were as
well because unfortunately they don't have this even an inkling of the socialized medicine
that we do and need a lot of support with a lot of amputees and TBI occurring.
Having international communications as well and my cousin being Sir Adriel Beatrem Ramsey,
very much care about the international community and fighting for Europe as my family has for
generations. I just come to you with hat in hand and understanding and solidarity with
you as well. Now what occurred to us, I wish I could share with you videos of that day on J6.
I have a lot. There's one of me standing on stage where I'm introducing Topher the Marine
rapper. As I always do, I would bring up veterans and share about their experience,
how it tied to mine and what we were doing in the battle for civil liberties and helping our
veterans. You can show us videos. You can show us videos. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, you can. Yep.
Okay, so I'll share this briefly. This is just myself speaking as I was introducing
the video. You're breaking up now, Joshua. You weren't before.
It uses too much of the bandwidth. This is January 6, 2020, where I was in.
He's going to have to stop doing the video. Yeah, the video uses too much bandwidth.
Too much bandwidth for this international space. Yeah, too much bandwidth.
So I'll stop the share there and go back to the statement.
That was the protest before it got to the Capitol. That was in front of the Treasury Building.
Sorry, Joshua. Can I just ask, Charles, you show videos sometimes. There's no problem with that.
Why don't you just keep going? Don't try and solve tech problems, Stephen. Yeah, no worries.
It's okay. I'll share the details so that you guys can check it out. It's no problem. So
just a little perspective that validates my statement. Being on stage introducing at the
time the Patriot song had never been played publicly. They went to the top of the Billboard
charts, but then were censored and thus started all the censorship. Twitter, you name it. Facebook
had already removed me. I was put in Philadelphia gulag and in November 5th, 2020, for asking the
question if every legal vote was being counted in Philadelphia. If anyone has watched 2000 mules
and they were saying the epitome of the apparatus was in Philadelphia and I was passing that
information of the ballot harvesting to what was occurring on the ground too at the time.
It was Corey Lewandowski and as well, Chief Legal Officer Rudy Giuliani. I was meeting with him the
next morning. Well, they swatted me at 1048 the night before to make sure that I didn't have that
information passed over because they were going on Fox News in the morning. So this is the type of
underhanded stuff that was occurring all the time. Quite frankly, a lot of just as Dr. Corse, he was
speaking about the blob, the deep state was inside the apparatus and taking control to fight,
to take away our civil liberties and to take away liberty, quite frankly, across the world.
Joshua, would you say they swatted you? Explain what swatting means, what they specifically did.
Yeah, they put out an APB in my name with a false statement.
All Points Bulletin, yeah.
Yeah, all points, sorry, military utilizing the acronyms, my apology. So they put an All Points
Bulletin out at 1048 to find me and sure they did. And I found 50 of Philadelphia's finest police
showed up in front of me and were cornering me right there on the side of the sidewalk.
Heavily armed.
Every one of them, most definitely were heavily armed. And by no means was I brandishing,
I was not giving any inclination that I was trying to hurt anybody. If I frankly was just
peacefully standing on the street sidewalk going live. Now at the time we were reaching about
1.5 million every time we went on live communication because it was shared all throughout
Veterans for Trump, our social media and leadership. And at the time also myself as the head of the
community, my message got out there quickly. So I know that they were very aware of where I was
and that's when they honed in on me. And as soon as I hit end, that's when I had all the police
in front of me asking me these questions. So it was at that time that the D at the time,
District Attorney Krasner, who was a Soros paid top attorney for him, had already put out,
Trump you send your proud boys are unofficial poll watchers. I've got something for them.
Which Derek, who just joined us could talk about that. Prospectorial overreach and how ridiculous
that occurred against us and many others as well. And even he's saying that still
promulgating the same lies today about those who have been parted. As I was in jail in 21 days
in isolation, it was within the first few days that I quite frankly thought of Stoltz and Neitzin,
the Russian novelist and what it was like for him being inside of the gulags of Russia.
And I started passing notes underneath my steel door in my small isolated space,
trying to get the word out that look guys, I am not a terrorist. I have no means what they're
making me out to be. I wasn't out here trying to blow up the civic center or do anything to
harm my city as a Philadelphia kid. Quite frankly, I speak of peace about the sanctity of life.
I've started numerous churches, come from a spirit-filled chaplaincy community and have done so
honorably and served honorably just because I had a sidearm on me, which I legally was able to carry.
I had a concealed carry permit and I was twice cleared by investigation by the sergeant that
was there. And he made it very clear even in my trial that before judge that I was not only
cordial, but I was a decent human being that was there working within the same community.
I worked with police officers all the time, have been for the past 20 years, especially when it
comes to cybersecurity and passing information and ensuring that they understand the community
at large. So Stoltz and Eason actually helped me a lot in jail in order to communicate,
thinking about what he went through in the Russian Gulag at the time. And that's how I felt as I was
in the inner city of Philadelphia fighting against the COVID, what they were calling us the COVID
isolation. I was put in the Q block of all blocks. That's what they called it, even though it was a B
block. But they call it the quarantine block because every time they brought somebody in,
they restarted the ticker of a 45 days of isolation for every new person that they brought in.
Immediately, I started to go against that. I said, where are you coming from? Where's the mandate in
this? This is inhumane. I want to speak to the resident physician. I don't care if it's a nurse.
You tell me who is giving you the authority and telling you this bad advice to put us under a 45
day quarantine every time you bring somebody new in. So by the time I was there four days and it
passed notes underneath my little half inch door, I got the message out that we needed to do something,
that this wasn't going to continue, that they were going to continue to do this to us if we didn't
stand up and say that this needed to stop. And so by the fifth day on the eve of Veterans Day,
there was 80 men in the whole 180 that went on a hunger strike with me. I spoke to them at large
and I said, guys, creating havoc isn't going to do it. Your stopping and flooding your space isn't
going to do it. You'll just be in a flooded unit. And starting fights and fighting the guards,
it's not their fault. It's not them. It's the city at large. It's the district attorneys and it's a
system we're fighting against. The only way to hit them is in their pocketbook. So don't take your
meals along with me and we'll right this ship. And sure enough, we did. Not for the first meal,
not for the second meal, but after I created an accountability of those calling out the names and
the numbers of who did and didn't throughout the whole ward, 90 of those men stayed with me
through multiple meals. And then by the evening meal, the warden came down and said, what are
your demands? Now they didn't want to say what are your demands to who they were calling the
terrorists, even though they asked me through their guards. But the warden went to the top
at the time, head leader of the largest gang in Philadelphia, who everybody had respect for and
who at the time was f bombing me and throwing off all types of shade on me for being in there
for the 10 minutes that I got to walk around or use the phone. And then after speaking with him,
said, what are your demands? They treat us like humans. Stop this constant 45 day resets. Let
our men go into and process into the normal community. And let's just get back to business
as usual to allow our court cases to be heard so that we can have true jurisprudence in a speedy
case so that we can have our grievances heard and get out of here or process or put us in state jail.
That's what you're going to do. But don't leave us in this isolation and constantly put more sick
people in here and then be afraid to join because we're under quarantine. So it was during the so
that that word got out. The warden heard us and change occurred. We started to took our evening
meal. And at the time, the head leader of the gang came to my door and said, Listen, man, I'm sorry.
I didn't know who you were. I was listening to the lies of the media. I know I know that you
were standing up for us. And that's why you're in here. I don't believe what the CNN, CBS and
everybody else is saying. After being in here for 45 days, you're here for four days and you got
everybody to listen and you got real change to happen. So whatever you need to do, I'm with you
and I'll continue to fight with you and fight for you as you help us. So at that point forward,
it was then 72 hours of isolation. The warden wasn't happy. Nobody else was inside the system
that after four days I was in there communicating effectively and organizing the community that was
there that was also putting being put under this log type pressure in this horrible conditions,
which look, I put terrorists and Gitmo. Okay, I processed very bad guys, very evil people who
murder incessantly, who could care less about the heading you or your family. And we treated them
better than they were treating us inside of the Philadelphia prison and these other subsequent 80
prisons that they put other J sixers and the other 355 veterans of the 1600 through this system.
So at the time when I had my list of advocacy for veterans, it was it was not prison reform,
but immediately after going through this, I added that to my list. And I made it very clear that we
were going to fight for prison reform, especially for our veterans, but also for those who are being
thrown in jail and taking pennies from paupers as they had been doing inside the United States
and all throughout the world and how this utilization and manipulation had occurred
for their own gains. And it was clear that I was being put in for political prosecution
and persecution and that I was by no means that I was there causing trouble or stirring it up in a
in a way that was to harm anybody whatsoever. I was just asking quite clearly, hey guys,
is everything being counted behind me because I see all these people running in here at midnight
with backpacks and pulling out all these ballot harvesting. And there's a problem. There's a major
problem here in Philadelphia. So that's what really precipitated all of the questioning
about my character. And as Stalin said, show me a man. I'll show you what he did wrong. And like
true Stalinites, that's what they did. The Marxist ideology came vehemently against me and the law
fair began as the law fair occurred and continued on for the past four years against not only
President Trump as they did against General Flynn, but then every other leader and voice that stood
up in opposition to the system and to the plan to of the World Economic Forum to the globalist agenda
here starting in America. So what as I had worked diligently to do previously and have continued on,
I started, I already had a foundation called We Who Serve Foundation. This star is tied to
Vet Host where we focus on helping our veterans in transition, getting a working with scattered
housing. We work with shelters and I've been doing this for 20 years. I was tied to the Housing
Choice Voucher Program. I helped veterans get on their feet to the number of thousands where I
helped with homeless community endeavors. And now as a chaplain, I work in the civil liberty side
where I advocate for our veterans and help them not only to get on their feet again, but get to
the next level. I've quite frankly worked with governors, senators, congressmen, you name it,
even at the time President Obama and to help increase our vouchers from 36,000 to 76,000 to
help our homeless veterans. And it was a great advocacy and something that I was very proud
to work with our community to make happen to focus on the homelessness crisis. And then
subsequently what we call the Military Hierarchy of Needs. Moving away from Maslow's hierarchy,
we focused in on a Tree of Life mindset that we helped encourage others to understand that
with roots you didn't have fruits and roots are housing. And then from the Tree of Life mindset,
we get to the whole veteran, which is the mental, physical, and the emotional wellbeing. And that's
where the VA would stop and we add spiritual. So we say sozo, we want to help our veterans to
be made whole again. And then we get to the third pillar of the veteran Tree of Life,
and that's earned benefits, meaningful jobs. And then the fourth is faith and community,
because the veteran needs to be fruitful because if a veteran is not fruitful, then he takes the
axe to the roots, uproots himself, or changes his transition and changes jobs. And that's why we're
losing 50 to 80 veterans to self-inflicted wounds. And that's just in the United States alone.
I quite frankly believe that those who served, who have committed suicide within two years of
their service, it is a service related death. And that advocacy needs to happen all across
their counterterrorism fighting that we've done, both in the UK or partners and those who also are
fighting the front lines as well with us. So that's an advocacy I have, quite frankly,
all throughout the UN and one that I believe we can help after starting here, but that first
policies, we then will branch out to America first policies that are also our policies with
all of our allies. Having done so for numerous years, we were able to, while I was underneath
the thumb, quite frankly, of the federal system, I'm probably the most most egregiously attacks
of veterans over the past four years, but, and also most scrutinized that I even right now,
I'm still under probation and will be until March when that ends, praise God, even though we're
fighting with the pardons even right now, we're fighting at the state level for the attacks
against all of us because they're still doing it. I mean, they're still trying to pull jurisdictional
overreach and whatever they can to throw us in jail, to scoop us up as even though we are patriots
that stood up.
I frankly, freedom across the world is 355 on our Bonder VI Foundation. I focus on helping our
veterans that are both homeless and outreach to working with the VA, working with numerous
organizations and mental health, helping with post traumatic stress injury, helping with other
modalities as well as advocates and as advisor to Congress, to Senate and to the president himself
when it comes to the VA reform. So at many times, having worked in this community with doctors and
clinicians, we've helped to focus in on the needs of our veteran first, because we believe
inherently that as we focus on the vets, that subsequently it's a backbone of the community
engagement, we will help succeed the many others because they are embedded in the community and we
need to shift the mindsets so that they themselves and we can bring the technology through them to
help others with our programs and support initiatives with our battle buddy programs.
So right now we have quite frankly about 15 veterans that we're helping. As Derek has spoke
about, he's coming down to our facility where is our headquarters in Homestead, Florida, CBS Miami
spoke about us on Veterans Day. Even some of my good friends may have even joined us on the Zoom
to speak about the work that we're doing down there on a daily basis and we're expanding all
throughout the country with 25 cities in our focus and we are engaging with veterans every day.
So that is by frankly the quickest way I could summarize our statement, who we are, what we're
up to and as Derek had spoke about, we're fighting for our veterans and we're helping those J6ers
that we believe are just right alongside prisoners of war who fought for civil liberties here on the
U.S. soil and need to be honored as heroes for their sacrifice and for losing so much that has
been taken from them. And I advocate as one who was also thrown in the gulag, put under 21 days
of isolation and then four attempts on my life have occurred over the past four years. Praise
God I still stand here just as President Trump was able to stand thanks to the hand of God that saved
his life. The hand of God has also been here to save my life and my family as well. The attacks
still occur but we stand here like Shadrach, Bishadak, and Abednego going into the fire
and will not waver whatsoever in fighting for our veterans and for our patriots.
You can find me at onyour6.org where we speak about this and specifically
J6vets.org which is a campaign of On Your Six Foundation, a 501c3 non-profit.
And Charles we might let, can we let Derek finish his statement? I think he's back with us and he's
He is back. Yep, Jerome. Derek, over to you.
Thank you. I apologize. I'm traveling to the airport now. I should arrive in probably five
minutes but just one thing I have to comment on Josh. He's very humble. Josh is a hero and I
consider him a hero because he wouldn't take a plea. You know the entire federal apparatus was
against him. They were pressuring him and many others to take a plea. He refused to do it and
now he's standing, he's speaking out for freedom and I think that's exemplary of, of, of, of,
for what a leader does, what somebody who stands for, for rights does. So I thank you. I appreciate
that. Dr. Corsi, I'm going to follow up on a couple of the questions you asked me. So you asked me
about why it was an entrapment operation? Why it was coercion? So what under U.S. law, what coercion
basically boils down to is when the government is compelling you to do something that you wouldn't
ordinarily have done absent government influence. That is precisely what happened in, at the Capitol.
There were FBI groups that were, that embedded themselves months prior to, to January 6th.
They essentially took control of the protest. They were inciting people to go inside. It was never,
there was never a plan to go inside and kick the doors in. What, it was just a protest. People had
flags and signs and they were, they were saying, look, we're unhappy with this result. We believe
we need an investigation, which by the way, the news said absolutely not. We don't need an
investigation. There's no evidence. Well, there's no evidence if there's no investigation. So I just
want to make that clear that this was an, this was an operation that was taken over by a weaponized
justice department, a weaponized FBI, and also weaponized intelligence agencies. And they're
still being, they've still being weaponized to this day, even though Trump's in office, we still
need to get rid of, of the, the, the, the evildoers or the bad government employees who don't respect
people's rights. No matter if you're left, right center, no matter what walk of life you're from,
I think the commonality for all of us is we want our constitutional rights respected.
We all want to live free of tyranny and just go about our life and do the best we can. And I think
that really was uniting factor in the last election. I mean, it was, you know, people kept saying
democracy, this is about democracy. You know, that, that was, you know, in a lot of the polls,
one, two or three, you know, sometimes economy jobs, but, and I think people said, yes, democracy,
we want to stand up for our rights. We realize that we're, we're living in times where the
government is tyrannical. They're not respecting our rights. Yes, in America, we're fortunate enough
to have a constitution and a bill of rights. However, go to court and try to enforce those
rights. You watch how fast your case gets dismissed. Watch how fast that judge sides with,
with whatever federal agency you're suing and makes up something at a, at a thin air to dismiss
your case. That is what has been going on for many, many decades now, and that needs to stop.
So what we're doing is we want accountability in this next phase of attack. We want accountability
from, for the politicians. We want accountability for the judges who were grossly biased. We want
accountability for the media who was absolutely complicit in this. Dr. Corsi, can you jump in
one moment? I got it. I got to get out of my Uber and then I'll pick back up in a few minutes.
Okay. Go ahead. I'll make a couple of comments and kind of get back to Josh on this, but
I'd like to have you, Josh, emphasize how many of these hostages, J-6 hostages,
were badly treated, even though they had not had yet trials. They maybe never got a trial. They
were indicted, but never got a trial. And especially in the, in the Washington, D.C.
prison, which was a city prison. So if you just kind of detail some of the abuses of these
prisoners that went on, these hostages, when all they had done was protest and did, and as Derek
just explained, it was a incitement event where the provocateurs were really the implanted federal
agents. So take it from there. Well, I think it's quite, as I was there,
I mean, I've experienced in quite, quite intense situations with insurgency groups and having seen
that, I saw the movements of the groups when I walked up at around, I don't know, 2.45 that,
that day on J-6. And having come from the SCOTUS side of the Capitol building, as I walked up,
I could tell that these weren't our people. Having worked, I think it was 55 events for
SCOTUS, augmenting security alongside Secret Service, just in 2016 alone as a threat spotter,
you can tell the continents of their, of their face what's going on in the eyes.
And when I, as I walked up, there were Ukrainian nationals, there were Chinese nationals,
there were numerous overseas nationals that were there, but they were, they were groups
or orchestrated. So it, not in our community, where quite frankly, it's a rainbow of faces,
you know, and every ethnicity, because in America, we are a melting pot. I was, we weren't seeing
that. So as I walked up, I could see that there were, there were groups that were all into,
that were agitators that were causing trouble. And immediately, once we came on scene, as I,
as we always do, quite frankly, veterans, we go to, hey, who's in charge here? Who's got the
authority? What do you need help with? So I went to and had one of my right-hand guys who was inside
the system go right to the, to the head of security, to the police, who had worked with
numerous times. I don't know how many times I worked with Capitol police and others just by
being on site and the world is going on. What is this chaos? And what do you need help with?
And myself, I stopped about four out of the five agitators from throwing bricks at the Capitol or
trying to bust in windows or in some way harm others as well. And these weren't our people.
These were agitators. These were either, whether they were paid or they were anarchists that were
trying to stir up, stir the pot. They were trying to act like us. They were not our community
people whatsoever. So I saw that clearly. And then there were those who were paid agitators,
which Dr. Corse, he was speaking about that were all pushing this lie in this narrative in order
to create a trap, which was led by Nancy Pelosi. She's even said it herself. J six is my fault.
Was her quote from her and what she what they had done and how they created such a stir in a
chaos moment and even told the Capitol police leadership to stand down. And they that's why
Capitol police even quits and are whistleblowing about that whole situation and statements. So they
they panicked. They started throwing flashbangs at people. And look, we're trained as veterans
how to during active service, how to go through and deal with tear gas. Okay. We're probably one
of the few that not only go in once, but twice, but three times I see my friend Ozzy and Gabriel
may have joined. They could speak about this themselves. But after going through the course,
you got to go through it again without your mask. Okay. So it's quite frankly, many were there who
were helping the police line were sprayed and maced and they would come out. We have to water
their face and they say, Hey, I'm going back into hell. And when they said that they were going
back into hell, the police to keep out the agitators. And yet those very veterans, when
they went back into help the police and carry a prostrate police officer like Tony Lamont,
I did, who was protecting my back and maintaining protection from anything else, were then prosecutor
for that and thrown in federal prison low or a felony charge of a trespass. Or quite frankly,
they were carrying a police officer to the police line inside the Capitol so that he can receive
medical treatment. This is the kind of upside down occurrence that occurred where even where people
are getting beats in the head relentlessly by untrained. I would wonder if they were even
professionals or paid actors at the time from, and then press charges against them for defending
themselves as it's clear that there was lethality that was occurring way beyond people just being
halted from progressing forward into the Capitol. So this is a clear overreach, a clear need for
training to occur. And there was also a very obvious set up and a trap of many people at the time.
You're right.
So I see a lot of questions coming up. So I want to make sure.
Did you say there were other J6ers who joined us? I didn't.
Yes. Well, I believe we have one. I can ask to unmute also a leader in our community.
Who is that?
Who joined us. Ozzie is there. Ozzie, are you there?
Ozzie, I asked to unmute him, but I don't know if he joined with Gabriel. I asked Gabriel to join.
Ozzie, can you guys hear me? Yes.
All right. All right. What's going on, guys? How you doing?
Good. And so I'm marine.
Okay. This is Ozzie here. Ozzie Perez. Ozzie, you want to give your statement about what J6 was all
about and what you experienced? Well, I wasn't there. I was there in November and December.
Unfortunately, I had to work on January 6th. But otherwise, I would have been right next to Gabriel
during his tour of the Capitol that day. And it's just a travesty and a complete, unlawful
arrest for all these peaceful protesters that were there that day. They should have been treated
the same way that the protesters were treated when they were protesting Kavanaugh. And nothing
happened to them. And nothing should have happened to all of these J6ers. And unfortunately, we see
the disparaging trajectory of the law that they use lawfare against these J6ers. And they used
everything that they could in the law, which even included the 1512 that then got overturned by the
Supreme Court. And we've seen a big travesty be done upon these heroes, because that's what I call
them. They stood up for our country in the wind when nobody else was standing up for our country.
And the evil cheating that happened on J6, I'm sorry, in November 2020 during the election. So
the election was stolen. And these J6ers were there to protest peacefully. And then the agitators
within the crowd that were paid FBI informants went ahead and disrupted the whole thing.
Tear gas was thrown. And everything went downhill from there. This was all shown on video. And a lot
of this video did not come out. They did not allow some of this video, which was a sculpatory evidence
for these J6ers to be used. And it's a complete travesty of the use of lawfare. And this country
should correct its actions and never let something like J6 happen again because of the simple fact
that people are peacefully protesting. Thank you. Thank you, Ozzy. Is Gabe here? Do we have Gabe as
well? Gabe? Gabe, can you unmute? Are you here? I don't see Gabe. He was on another conference call
right now. So give him a second and he'll jump on. When Gabe comes back, let us know so we can get
him back to make a statement. Go ahead. Of course, I'd like Ozzy for a second while he's on with us
just to speak about the work that we're doing through our engagements down there and his working
diligently with our vets. Ozzy, if you could just give a little campfire statement about what we're
doing down there. Well, down here in Miami, thank God. The topic for the Zoom call got changed.
Okay. Jerome Corsi is leading it and he's got a bunch of J6ers. Yeah, you were saying Ozzy.
Yeah. So basically what we're doing down here in South Florida is helping
veterans not be a statistic and helping them go into a safe haven so they're not sleeping on the
dirt. They're not sleeping in their car. They're not sleeping on the street. And thank God to Josh
and his partners. We're right now helping 96 veterans. We have room for 160 more to come in
and some of those can be J6ers if they need the assistance as well.
Yes. And those are apartments that are net zero. We can handle a cat six hurricane
or a 7.2 Richter scale hurricane earthquake and they are beyond the conversation that's zero right
now. Poured concrete and these are luxury apartments and we can actually handle more
because of our density. We can put in another 800 people inside of our 278 apartments thanks to
group home environment. So Ozzy's standing as testament to that. Derek is on his way down
and you'll see us on Voiters and International News speaking about this and how we're helping
our J6 vets. Thanks Ozzy. Appreciate it. Can we ask some questions now? Yes, I think that's good.
I think we've had good statements and I'll let Charles and you Stephen now take over and thank
you very much. Well no, you don't have to disappear. I'm not going to disappear. I'll be right here. I'm
not going anywhere. We've got Derek back now. Derek, we're going to go to questions while we've got you
and Stephen traditionally asked the first series of questions. So Stephen over to you for the first
lot of questions to Derek and Josh and Ozzy. So I don't know which of you, first of all I'm so glad
that you've been pardoned. Thank you. All of you have been pardoned. It's outrageous what happened
to you. So I don't think it's just about human rights. I think this is about treason when the
constitution is not observed by the government and the police, the FBI, whatever. That's treason
in my and that's a very, I concur with that statement. That's a very serious crime and
a numerous addition as well leads to treason. Sure. So I just want to get
concentrating on the victims for a second but I think the wider importance of this is that this
is treason in the United States of America and we're seeing treason all around the world
through COVID and all the nonsense with climate change and the Ukraine war and nothing makes sense
and that's the intention. They want to destabilize every human being on the planet by
making everything seem chaotic and it's in the United, well it has been until last Monday.
It's been like that in the United States. It's been like that in the UK. Hopefully now we've
got to the point where things must change and it's nice to see that Trump is at least doing
something correct, something that makes sense and whether we believe that he's going to provide
all the answers or not. So what I want to do is that how many people, so Trump was talking about
1500 were being pardoned. Yes. Are there any who have not been pardoned? Is it just 14 who have
not been fully pardoned and their cases are going to be scrutinized? I absolutely agree.
If the constitution has been, a version of the constitution, a treasonous version of the
constitution has been weaponized against individuals, then all the people who are involved
in this entrapment, in this coercion, should be pardoned, released, whether they did something
wrong or not. Because obviously if things are going on in that crowd outside the capital,
which shouldn't be going on, in other words people were inciting or whatever, causing trouble,
and those people were state actors, then that is a crime and people are, you know, people who are
not traitors are going to react in different ways. We're all human beings, we have failings. So, but
if you threaten people in the way that they were threatened, their kind of mental stability was
threatened, if you like, then they could do anything, you know. So if they've done something
wrong, then you could say that they were forced to do it. So what happened to these 1500 people?
These 1500 people, were there more who weren't pardoned? We need to get an idea of the totality
of the crime. So there are more and there's actually at least 1600 that are persecuted
and as well as prosecuted. There are 14 which were commuted sentences, which were working on
the pardon of those as well, seditious conspiracy, and there are many other state charges that the
district attorneys like that came after numerous patriots like myself that we still have to rectify
the state level. Yeah, so how many committed suicide of all the people who came under scrutiny?
Well the ones that we know of, these were whether they were in or out of prison, that was Matthew
Perna, Mark Anst, Gord Meacham, Christopher Gorgia, and David Hommel. So that was five. Hey Josh,
what's the name of the J6er that committed suicide by cop yesterday? I forget his name. Yeah,
so that we were just talking about him as well. Actually it was just put in our chat, Matt.
Let me, so I want to say his name correctly.
So that and the reason I'm bringing that up is because all of these J6ers have been tormented,
tortured, and mentally perturbed to do certain things and everybody reacts a different way.
So some of these are veterans, a lot of them are veterans. We as veterans already had some sort of
PTSD coming into this maybe and this just threw everything overboard for these people. You have
Jeremy in there which they used a J6 warrant to actually go into his house and then planted evidence
in his place that he's still serving time and they don't want to consider it because they're
separating the church. They don't want to consider him a J6er even though he is a J6er and everything
from the poisonous fruit needs to go away. Poisonous tree needs to go away. And thank you for
bringing that up Ozzy. His name is Matthew Huddle, may he rest in peace. He's the most recent loss.
So is that six in total? I would say this, that's where we're at. I would add Matthew to that.
And could there be others that you don't know about? Yes there could be because they may not
be listed specifically within the community but those are the ones that we know of.
Yeah and then there's more that were incarcerated, those are associated incarcerated deaths,
was Julio Acua who died just days after his release from prison where he had been diagnosed
with stage four cancer. He was released due to his criminal condition but upon release he was
two weeks and sick and lead him directly to hospital where he passed away. One veteran,
his name is Bart Shibley, we're trying to work with him right now to help fight his cancer
but under comparable circumstances he now faces less than a year to live with his cancer likely
a link to his military service and yet it was treatable when they were putting him through
the gulag and through this for a year that this happened. Do we have any idea how many families
were destroyed? Well just about every one of our of us of the 1600 who were persecuted
or had prosecuted have had our lives turned upside down, lost business, lost income, lost
friends and families, numerous marriages on the rocks destroyed, people isolated as well and then
looked at upside. I mean we're put on terrorist watch lists for Pete's sakes and that's where the
pressure I'm sure with Matthew came as well as they were pulling him over and the stress that
was occurring during that time. Similarly Bart Shibley who I was just speaking about
he's on the verge of death. So we have others who just came out of jail who are in poor health
and we're trying to get them back on their feet. I mean just in the 21 days that I was in there
let alone others who've been in there for years I lost 25 pounds and I'm not the biggest I mean I'm
not the 300 pound guy here but 25 pounds is a lot for me, lean mean fighting machine but that was a
lot that took two years for me to get my health back from that stint that I was in. So there's
the road to recovery is intense for our community right now. So for every suicide there were many
many people many many of these people who were convicted who were psychologically tortured by
what had happened. There were tens of thousands that I would say are under the psychological
warfare. I know numerous attendees that were afraid of what was going to happen to them
as they were watching what happened to me occur. I mean in my network there's probably 5,000 in my
Rolodex and because he called me a terrorist he came after all 5,000 in one way shape or another.
So can I just get Joshua I just want to get an idea of the extent of so of the 1500 which Trump
mentioned how many came under scrutiny after the events of the Capitol? Was it more than 1500?
How many were convicted? How many went to prison and which prisons did they go to and what kind of
prisons were they? So there's 80 prisons all throughout the country that they were placed.
At the time of the pardon there were still 255 that were incarcerated. At the time they still
wanted to charge us on numerous individuals. Gabriel I like to bring on who just joined.
He was one who they wanted to imprison the day of actually on the 21st had that occurred. He would
be in prison right now had he not been pardoned. There was numerous others who their cases were
occurring on the 21st on the 22nd. They were ratcheting it up to imprison more. They had
another 300 on their list that they wanted to bring charges against. That was part of that 1600
and there was a short list of at least 10,000 that they were looking at at any time and there
were people that were profiteering off of this with the unconstitutional committee that we call
it. The J6 unconstitutional committee and with their PACs and their numerous political attacks
and hits. Even those who are turning to names and looking through photos in order trying to
make a quick buck for the sale of information.
Yeah.
Yeah, did you want to bring Gabriel on Josh?
Yes, I'd love to.
Can I finish these questions? Just a second. So of the people...
Yes, I'd like to have Gabriel answer some of these for specific J6 details too he might have.
That's why I'd like to say. But you'll yeah please keep it continued.
Oh of the people who so there were 264 I think you said still in prison when they were pardoned. Is
that right? Yeah, 255 around that and then plus those 14 that are right so you would get to...
And how many spent at least a week in prison say or went to prison?
At that point those of the 255 were in years so had been there for years some without even
having trial there was no expedient trial whatsoever.
So how many didn't have a trial and yet were in prison? Do we know?
I'd say dozens.
Yeah, Joshua I think you know what's really important I think is for you guys to do is to
is to document...
I can work on that data.
Is to document accurately exactly who suffered what and how and where and maybe name names I don't know.
Joshua is there now.
Yes. Hello Joshua.
Am I? I'm Shrek one and two so that data is there we just don't I don't have it.
Oh you do?
We have it.
Okay.
And we're compiling yes so we're focusing specifically on the veterans
and their needs vertically because I mean as I said some have been in jail for years
others are still going through it as we speak.
We're fighting to get Brown out and Neely they're a 24 year service veteran
chief it doesn't need to be in there.
Brown tier one relationship needs to be out.
There's still trying to get these guys out and then get them on their feet to get them healthy again.
I understand.
So I think if you haven't done so already I would you know if I were you I would
leaders of the I would shine a light on the extent of the crime and the crime is treason
in my opinion.
Hmm I agree that's where Derek speaks about that so eloquently as our CLO I concur.
And the reason why it's a good idea to highlight treason is because most people
do love their country and they don't like treason and they don't like traitors.
So anyway it's very emotive if it's explained to them.
So thank you so much for coming on it's very brave of you and then I wanted to ask you about prison conditions but I can ask you later maybe because that's all that's 15 that's 15 minutes let's go we're good before we go to questions.
Stephen let's go to Gabe Josh we got Gabriel to say something before we go to questions.
Yes please he could Gabriel joined us I left for him to have a word to introduce himself.
Gabe are you there brother?
What do we lose you I saw you for a brief second.
All right let's put we can unmute him there we go.
Okay there we go yeah you guys have me brother.
Yeah I got you.
All right how's it going everyone?
Good to see you brother good to see your face.
Nice to be on the land of the free home of the brave amen.
Yeah yeah amen to that find me freedom.
Feels great man just being able to get up and go wherever I want now.
Amen yeah it's a victory.
Yeah as you know been treated horrible through these past four years lost everything.
I got put on a terrorist watch list for no reason.
I got charges added at the last minute when I got out of prison the first time I was only
facing misdemeanors then got hit up with the wonderful obstruction of justice.
That the max on that is 20 years then got for Fisher versus US at the Supreme Court got overturned.
And been dealing with a lot of stuff I had death threats I've had people show up in my office my
secretary had to quit her job and just a lot of stuff that's been going on.
I mean financially emotionally it's been a roller coaster ride.
I got sick when I was visiting my kids in Texas and I couldn't even go inside the military base
to get medical care had to pay out of pocket and I mean I served this country honorably retired
US Army captain and to deal with that while they were treating legal immigrants there was like a
slap in the face to me. One thing has nothing to do with the other while I was pending these charges
and this government has had their mind made up the entire time from the first day.
I never had a chance of even having a fair trial. I was told I'll be found guilty before even the
bench trial started by the same judge that was prosecuting me and finally get to speak out.
They try to put gag orders on me silence me on everything kick me out of bank accounts
social media and this has been one big roller coaster ride. I could show you my PTSD has gone
through the roof dealing with all this. Hey Gabriel that's a good point just so people understand
what was happening in DC these were kangaroo ports. These were yeah these are the most biased
judges in the country that had an agenda to to make an example out of all of you and the jury.
The judges even said that the jury were victims of the crime but they refused to grant motions to
change venue. It was just completely biased so you guys had no chance of getting of getting a fair
trial. So when people say oh you know these guys must have done something wrong they were convicted.
No that's not the case you guys never had a fair chance and I respect you and others that refuse
to cop out a plea that refused to say something that you didn't do at a principle and now you're
here and you're able to speak with full integrity. They're the ones that have lost all credibility.
They're the ones that are in complete disarray. The media message is in complete disarray because
they don't know what to do. The people don't believe in insurrectionists. The media still
called me saying that I was involved in the darkest day in America's history. I've been
called insurrectionists. I've been even put by my local channel 10 video of me supposedly fighting
Capitol police. It wasn't even me. I tried to sue them and that didn't work out because they said
well you were found guilty at the bench trial so the judge here locally dismissed that. The prosecutors
even failed. I kept asking for exculpatory evidence and I didn't even get that. They refused to give it.
Yeah so just so people know these are what's called Brady violations. The government is required to
give evidence that shows that you are not guilty for what they're charged with. They refuse to do
it. In many cases they gave guys what's called data dumps which is a terabyte or more of data
and they say okay have your legal team go through it. That can't be done. That's not the way this
is supposed to be done. So this was egregious violations from all departments and that's
what we need to get out. It wasn't just from the executive from the Biden weaponized justice
department. It was also the judiciary was complicit in that and these judges are still making orders
just railing against the pardons. You can see how angry they are and they view this
as a loss and why this is so important is this is honestly one of the first major battles that the
people have won since all this tyranny started in COVID and now they do not want our messaging to
get out. They do not want us to unify. As Josh said they kept everybody separate. They tried to
do solitary confinement to the max. They're doing everything they can to control this narrative
but they're having a lot of difficulty because people don't buy it anymore. So that's why it's
so important that we speak in these groups and elsewhere as we're doing on as many podcasts as
possible. And I got put out just want to add to that they came broke down my door. I was one of
the first ones here in the state of Florida on January 17th and I had secret service. I had
federal agents to include someone from CID criminal investigation division from the army
because I was able to get the arresting report of this task force. I was not given a warrant.
I was pointed with lasers right on my chest. I've never committed a crime in my life. I'm not a
danger to anybody. I served this country honorably retired top secret clearance and for them to do
this with my kids in the house I was in complete shock. If someone would have told me hey just
turn yourself in even the FBI agent said hey from Washington they made you sound like you're this
huge terrorist and I couldn't believe when this guy told me that. That was their plan all along.
This was a PsyOps operation. It was complete propaganda. Many of our guests that are
listening and I believe some of the co-hosts on here they know what how the government operates.
They saw it in COVID. It's the same playbook that they've been doing and this is really the first
time that we want a major battle and now our voices are being heard and we need to continue
getting our voices to be heard and now it's time for accountability which is what private
primary is going to be all about. We're getting the website up and running now
but what this is going to be about is it's going to show these politicians these judges it's going
to show everything that they've done and it's going to expose them and under their names we're
going to say primary challengers wanted and we're going to primary them one by one until we take
over this government again and make it a government for the people as opposed to a government for
tyranny because tyranny does not surrender. It needs to be defeated by the people and that's
what you and each of us are doing. They made my life difficult after when I was in house arrest.
They didn't want me to work. I tried to open up a business. They'll try everything in their power.
They wanted me to stay put and pretty much thank God I'm retired and I have my pension from the
military. If not I don't know where I will be today and they made my life beyond miserable.
Another thing is I went to CPAC to meet with another attorney that was at CPAC and because of
that I had to go back to DC and they put me in house arrest and I've been I was with an
ankle monitor for quite some time just for meeting up with my attorney. I have the right to meet with
an attorney. It was outside the District of Columbia and for them to do that it doesn't
make sense. That's something these judges and I'll say it here very very proud. I will give up my
pardon to see these guys suffer half of what we suffered. Well we need you here on the outside
brother. We need you here in freedom with your voice being heard because that's how it's going
to be done. You know when you're telling your story on on podcasts like this the truth is getting out
and that's what they fear the most. Their propaganda machine cannot deal with the truth
because it just too many of us get out there and we're exposing them and that's what's happening
and that's why the media is in complete disarray right now. They're messaging all over the place.
Yeah because they're not telling the truth so they don't have whereas you are telling the truth and
your messages from all the different places all the different prisons will be exactly the same
to the people. Absolutely we're dealing with hard facts. We have the receipts and that's another
thing that we're getting at. We'll see if Cash Patel gets confirmed in the FBI. We'll see if
Pam Bondi gets confirmed in justice and we're going to go to them and we're going to request
the files. We want the files the internal government files of what was going on. What was the extent of
this coercion operation? What was the involvement of the intelligence community which many people
are saying have been running our elections. We're going to expose this to the maximum extent
possible that President Trump and his cabinet cooperates with us. When we do get these receipts
these files these witnesses we are going to go on every podcast and every news station that will
have us because we are going to get the story told for the American people and frankly for the people
of the world. I could even use my videos in my own trial where I'm offering water to Capitol police
telling some agitator I told them stand down they're doing their job. I respect you guys thank you
for keeping us safe. I said a prayer in the rotunda waited for the doors to open and walked out. That
was it as far as my stay there and I wasn't there to hurt anybody destroy any property and I said
it very clearly since day one and I just wanted my voice heard. I was there to actually support what
Senator Ted Cruz had at the time which was a 10-day bipartisan committee to investigate into
voter fraud and it's my right as an American to use my first amendment right and not be prosecuted
the way I've been prosecuted and I don't agree with the left but at the same time they have the
right as well that's what makes America what it is. We're not here to go after people just because
we're we don't believe on their political views and that's the way I felt I was prosecuted. This
was a setup operation our government cannot function like our government cannot function
when it weaponizes against the opposition that's just anathema to America that's anathema to our
constitution that's just basically the opposite of free will of liberty that that is the course
to a totalitarian state we will never stand for that and the American people will not stand for
that as you said left right center they do not want that they want a fair system they want a
government that serves the people not themselves. All right and then I think you're right too
I think you get it that this is about treason and tyranny it's about treason and tyranny and people
need to stand up against both. You've said that let's let's get moving so. No I haven't said it actually Charles.
Gabriel thank you for that testimony Derek great job we've got we've only got less than an hour
to go so I've got lots of questions stay here guys and we'll go through these questions the
observation that I make the same problem in Australia everybody in every country around the
world here is a simple strategy Josh that every single retired politician who played a part in
any of this retired and current has to be called out in any public space in which they are in.
What we have to do every one of us is to make life uncomfortable for the miscreant politicians
and retired politicians so that politicians realize that retiring from government or from
from congress is not going to be a free pass for the rest of their lives and we have to be committed
to that process so that's a very simple process never again for badly behaved politicians should
they be honoured in public ever without being called out so let's go to questions. Dave Colum
professor let's go and keep them tight rather than too many background statements everybody.
Well thanks gentlemen that's my background statement I have a couple of questions that
you may or may not know I'm happy to do lightning round there are things that look suspicious to
me John Sullivan for example looked like a fed any comments would be great I've seen
Ukrainians photographed with QAnon shaman I find that troublesome and is that true?
In QAnon shaman I was on a twitter spaces on child trafficking and he showed up and he could
talk the talk and I'm going how is this guy showing up in both places any comments on that?
So lightning round John Sullivan total total plants pretty clear on that for sure.
QAnon shaman like he's a veteran had a few things going on with him in Arizona can't speak to his
details of where he was and when and all of that but I think quite frankly he was harmless when I
saw him he was just on the in the quite frankly the high of the moments okay in the situation so
your third question what was that? I dug deep into Ashley Babbitt's shooting and I do not want to
undermine the sacrifice she gave to the cause but it looked fabricated to me do you have any
thoughts on that? I should add I should add three years after I wrote about it Cheryl Atkinson
picked up the lead and and it came to the same conclusion that something was wrong.
So there was a lot of conversation for sure I mean even those who I know that were in the
state department were making comments okay and then uh
not now
try turning off your video because
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a person who was right there who got state problems check one two.
I missed all that came through garbled. Okay if you can hear me so I can okay great so
they're definitely coming from somebody who was there and that wasn't me but a friend of mine
who was a veteran he was sprayed by Ashley Babbitt's blood so he could see okay to that
situation and say and went uh and quite frankly lost it uh in that moment because he knew that
she was a veteran and also at the same time she was a second generation to the San Diego veterans
for Trump and I launched that community and she was very positive in the community and I could
tell you her mother is still grieving to this day as is her ex-husband. I don't doubt she died um
and then uh are they still arresting people?
Oh they're not they stopped oh they stopped that um um one last comment I dug deep into
smartmatic machines that were part of the election rig.
Defense no states yes. Anybody yes just persecution are they still persecuting?
So yes they're still persecuting people at the state level DA Crasner is coming out for people
even as we speak. Yes in addition to that anybody who wasn't specifically pardoned they're still
going after for example there's a gentleman that well you know prior to being pardoned he he took
off his ankle bracelet so now they're charging him yes they're charging him with probation
violations and things of that nature so they are they they are attacking you know to the max extent
possible. Okay lastly I dug deep in the smartmatic machines they were created to rig elections down
in South America they trace through a Canadian company through UBS eventually make it to Beijing
so the smartmatic machines actually traced to the CCP and and it's pretty and they the the company
went private in 2018 which was unbelievably conveniently timed I just thought I'd put that
in there thank you very much. I'm also by the way pissed off that the 41,000 hours of tape from the
hands of Johnson McCarthy and Tucker Carlson and none of them released the water tapes that I know
of is that correct? Don't have an answer. Okay thank you. Thank you thank you thank you Dave
and the way we'll the way we'll handle this Josh if you decide who needs to answer the questions
Sebastian is next. Copy.
Good evening gentlemen and thank you for your time here.
Sir.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants and this word has fallen quite a few times this evening. My questions are unfortunately
only indirectly connected to the J6 event but they are important and I hope you don't mind me asking
them. For you all, Republican Oglas proposes an amending of the 22nd Amendment to allow Donald
Trump to serve a third term. If it is established that the election was stolen,
what is your opinion on this point? That would be amazing. It would be good for all the whole world
and it would be good for all the whole world quite frankly. You know everyone likes to win
and right now we need America to win for the rest of the world to be safe and secure for law and
order to come back. I gotta tell you there's nobody at the helm in the previous administration. That
was such a foolhardy statement if they ever said one and it's pretty clear that they were asleep
at the wheel and that the system and the apparatus was doing nothing but running over our rights,
liberties and pursuit of happiness which we're grateful to have in America and then proliferate
that throughout the rest of the world with our allies and our friends. So it'd be a great start
to continuing the next hundred years of fruitfulness. Anyone else on that?
I think Gabriel Ozzie and Derek would all agree with me on that statement.
Just keep going, just keep going. We'll get an answer rather than a full question.
I agree that it would be great. Obviously it's a whole process that has to happen. It's got to be
approved through Congress. Honestly the chances of that happening are very very slim but I would
support that. I think he's honestly one of the best presidents we've ever had. In the top three,
Lincoln and George Washington. I put Trump right there. Okay thank you and Derek this question is
for you and it's concerning the preemptive pardons. Are they constitutionally legal in
your opinion and are these admissions to the fact that these gentlemen that have been preemptively
pardoned that they actually are guilty in some form? Well I'm not a constitutional scholar and
I don't think it has been done. I don't think this has been used in this fashion before,
a preemptive pardon like this. What I do know about this is there's substantial
scope to the pardoning power. So if I were to guess I would say that they would stand.
I think that you don't have to wait to be investigated, indicted prior to pardoning.
I think it would stand that a president can pardon even prior to an investigation.
Okay but that's yet to be that's going to be determined by the courts obviously
and it's a novel issue. Sure okay may I express my gratitude to you all and I hope that you
get through with this story successfully not only for you personally but also for your nation.
Thank you sir. Thank you. Thanks. Last question this is critical. This is critical. Does accepting
does accepting the pardon get prevent you from from from pleading the fifth in future trials?
People are talking about it. It seems hugely important to me.
Eric, I've heard that you cannot plead the fifth once you're pardoned. So I think there could be
implications there. Now when somebody says accept the pardon or not I don't think it's a matter of
accepting the pardon. It's a power that comes from the government. If the president pardons you,
you're pardoned whether you accept it or not. But now as far as testifying and trying to claim
privilege I don't think that you can claim privilege if you've been pardoned. So that is
an interesting point. All right thank you. Mark Steel in the UK. Josh? Yes. Thanks very much for
that gentleman. I'd just like to say thanks to Gabriel, Derek, Joshua and Ozzy for what you guys
have been through and you know fighting freedom on behalf of the the world. You know you guys are
heroes. One of the things I wanted to talk to you about Joshua is traumatic brain injury and PTSD
in troops where they've been exposed to electromagnetic radiation battlefield interrogation
weapon systems. We have this issue in the United Kingdom. Significant numbers of soldiers suffering
PTSD. It's never been known before. However the science was already established of electromagnetic
radiation causing traumatic brain injury and I believe because I spoke to a number of charities
in the United Kingdom and obviously once we got the nubs of it you basically get shut down. Nobody
wants to talk about these traumatic brain injury which could be seen under a scan where people have
suffered electromagnetic radiation traumatic brain injury. So that's just a point and the question
I really wanted to put to you. On the day do you think there was electromagnetic radiation weapons
used to agitate the crowd to create a more let's say you know the excitement and to initiate the
event? So I think your previous number one immediate response is I think the 20 flashbangs
was enough that they did because they were just lobbing them. So that was enough to agitate the
crowds and then the rubber bullets for sure. EM I don't know that the Capitol Police had the
technology there or anyone else to establish that but yes with regard to what you're saying
yes it does traumatic brain injury. Yes there is continued increased post-traumatic stress
injury that occurs in the battlefields and it's pretty frustrating that UK doesn't have enough
quite frankly support for our service members. So I advocate for that. I think that the UK should
have a parallel partnership with the VA with us as well as our partners in Tel Aviv who have focused
immensely in traumatic brain injury and now they're focusing on post-traumatic stress injury
after October 7th attack by Hamas. So we can speak to that as well and I believe there's
plenty technology as well as outside modalities even if we're talking about the five dives
that need to happen with hyperbaric oxygen enrichment therapy. I focus a lot of my
technology and biomedical on that to increase beta brain waves and alpha brain waves. So that's an
area that we know we can increase the amount of focus for the service member after traumatic
injury. Thanks to neuroplasticity we know that we can help with the brain to great
mucasms of strength and communication so that can occur and there are so many other
quite frankly technologies out there that really can scramble your brain and hurt you
but no I don't think that that occurred on the day of J6. I think we would have noticed it more
but they had a lot of physical agitations and they definitely did their best to do
to agitate the crowds on that side of the capital. Thanks for that Joshua. Thanks guys.
Yes sir. God bless you sir. Thank you for your support. Thanks Mark. Josh I'm sure you know
about it but hyperbaric oxygen therapy HBOT is used by vets in the US makes a massive impact on
PTSD so please make sure that you're through your networks that that's known and the data from
America from the US is very good and from all around the world. Yes sir I help to advocate for
outside modalities under Trump which it really increased that immensely for our Vietnam veterans
as well as the Blue Water Safety Act to initiate that for them as well. That's why we're on. Thank
you. Yep thanks Josh. Amy. Hello I am very glad that these people have been pardoned. My own mother
would have been with you but her feet are bad. She's over 80 and she would have gone into a
building if the police had told her to that she could without knowing she was doing anything wrong
if things is very very egregious criminal activity on the part of our government.
I just wanted to ask if people are aware of the way you know I see a lot of bias in the chat
against Arabs and Muslims so it might be off the radar but I do think there's a lot of relevant
precedents in the wake of 9-11 that would be wise to be aware of because this is what I see these
same tactics are used on one group another group you know they're used like the AIM people they
just released Leonard Peltier he was his community was subjected to similar provocateurs the COINTELPRO
program and then the Arabs after 9-11 and the Muslims were infiltrated spied on entrapped in
certain cases people were deported for nothing and so you know these kind of abuses occurred
in that case and now Trump is threatening to do that with student visas so but the very
the specific thing they use in the wake of 9-11 was this material support for terrorism and so
that precedent of the government getting to declare a group terrorist and then anyone saying
something that might be perceived as helping the terrorists would be tar you know would be able to
have you know those free speech rights taken away and then that's also being suggested to be used
against the criminal cartels the drug cartels of course we all want those stopped but we do have
to be really careful about this being used to silence legitimate protests as at least one of
you mentioned you were declared a terrorist so this is a huge concern and I think if we could
all you know take a deep breath and look at other people even if you very very reciprocally disagree
with their opinion what were the legal precedents used to take away their rights and is that
something that's growing in the United States and just god protect you and if you're too you know
stressed out dealing with your own case to think about it fine but I do think our larger move
no it's good needs to do it god bless god bless dr smith so I I hear where you're coming from and
yes uh quite frankly probably gave her a matter still on these watch lists uh considered terrorists
in our own country for asking if every legal vote was being counted it was all I was doing
by no means was that was I set to uh do anything against my country seditious or otherwise
terroristic uh after and quite frankly you're speaking of one who is a combat veteran in
counterterrorism uh also counter narco terrorism so I've seen atrocities as has Gabriel as has Ozzy
and many others uh and Derek as well as combat veterans we we know what evil is okay and so when
I speak of evil it's in all its forms uh whether it's the side of Wahhabism which is the throwback
sect of the Muslim community where Wahhabism is taken over in a lot of areas of many even the
iman of peace who I talked to is a great man believes in a restoration movement or resurrection
of the Muslim faith in and of itself because those specific caliphates have taken over and
quite frankly or they're very sympathetic to that mindset of Wahhabism so and then you see this in
America where they want to have Sharia law take over as they did in Michigan and no we don't
believe that that should ever happen but we should not have Sharia law we have the constitution we
don't need Sharia law okay if they want to enact it within their own community they have the liberty
to do so and I believe in Liberté I believe inherently for liberty to be for everybody
whatever happens in your home what you do is as long as you don't infringe on my liberties
then so be it but there there is free speech and we do have the right to speak but again if you go
into a crowded room and you'll fire that's not free speech if you go in and you start to decimate
or destroy anything that is a symbol even of our country or is in and of itself a statue or something
that was protected or brought in specifically to honor our country then you're breaking the law
and if you're breaking the law then you know and you're here by as a guest just as I were to bring
in a guest into my home and he starts to destroy my home well I'm gonna I'm gonna eject that guest
okay if that guest is here causing trouble or causing problems for my family and my friends and
my guests then I'm gonna eject them out of my home and I believe every state every country has a right
to do so now I am a first second generation born American on one side of my family my father came
from he was actually ex-left Spain during a great persecution upon Christians went to Mexico fought
in the Revolutionary War with Zapata and as a varista himself then came when he was 26 through
Ellis Island went through the properly and then brought my grandmother to the states and then had
my father my aunt my uncle born in Brooklyn as first generation immigrants and so having come
from that family having come from that background I believe inherently in immigration how important
it is we have laws they did it right and every one of us as those who could speak to what first
generation immigrants here believe that you need to follow the law of our land do it right come in
properly and then you will be properly protected under our constitution so those who come through
the auspice of protection because you're a student and then want to defecate all over our country
and defecate all over our constitution don't need to stay here and that's the change that we're also
focusing on because there is an inherent communist Marxist ideology and anarchist ideology within our
student realm and as one who's focused on I know psychology and inside the campuses and go there
all the time too I can say that it proliferates all throughout and this anti-American anti-liberty
statement pervades and we're not going to allow the sect of Wahhabism to take roots inside of our
country where it is juxtaposed to our constitution and any other ideology Marxism communism that will
continue to uproot itself inside the tree of liberty and stifle it okay that's the change
now as you stated I think inherently since the patriot act we have lost our liberties
we have lost our rights just go through TSA today versus 20 years ago what a big stark contrast that
is so no that that needs to change as well we don't need that that needs to quite frankly shift
egregiously but if you're here to defecate upon our constitution and our people I don't need you to
be here I mean let's work together let's have harmony and have peace and you can say what you
want to say in the public theater because that's first amendment free speech in our country that I
believe in that and yet and if you're going to say it where you're going to say well we're not
going to extradite you because you have the freedom to say what you want to say in your country
if you have those freedoms but I hope that answered your question but I believe inherently I
fought for those freedoms my brothers did as well my uncle my father my my stepfather my cousins
we all fought for those freedoms for those who come to the united states to become citizens to
have the chance to have life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and that their liberty
should not be infringed upon and neither should mine so and all those who served with me would
probably say the same state. One quick thing to that one thing that tyranny tries to do is divide
and conquer let's not allow small differences to allow us to lose sight of the bigger picture
we're here for to better ourselves god family country that's what I think in the end we all want
and that's how we should unite that should be the unifying banner for all of us is that yes
we're americans number one but we do not want these evildoers using dividing us apart on small
things such as different religions different race things like that so I think that you know that's
something we all have to keep in mind that that the evil forces are trying to divide the people
and we need to look at the broad perspective of of unity overall and of course as you said
everybody has to respect the rights america the flag all that if you want to be here you have to
follow our laws but we need to be cognizant that that this is a big a global movement
that's all I want to add to that well thanks derrick well said derrick and the as a as a
former lawyer derrick and your current lawyer the issue the challenge for us all is we are required
to observe the law but the politicians and the judges are not as we said we have corrupt judges
right around the world in australia in america and so then you the the issue is we have to shine
a light on that corruption but because the judges behave unlawfully or the politicians behave
unlawfully that doesn't give us carte blanche to behave unlawfully that's the point an important
point all right let's move on um can i just briefly really quick say that the whole point
of what i was saying is that the government uses this terrorism thing to silence and that's not
supposed to be part of the constitution and if you let them get away with it when they silence
people you don't like that you strongly disagree with they will get to you as they did on january
6 so you don't have to agree with me you don't have to like certain people but you should learn
about these different movements even of people you don't like to see how they were having their
rights violated and those precedents then applied to the january 6 people it was very easy to predict
for people who understood those movements and it was very hard to be tricked and provoked if you
understand those movements this is good for everybody god bless thanks amy john next and
john no big speeches please questions
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and john's muted come on johnny come on get organized i'm sorry if i didn't know you called
on me i was madly typing over here look i put something in there you all have please read it
it is yeah um don't we want the paper i did on aristotle
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pass me i don't have a question i'm statement go just pass me okay run
yeah my time two quick questions um do you have a list of judges politicians correctional officers
uh prison doctors um um uh prison administrators do you have a list of those who should be
outed for what they've done to you that's my first question and question number two yes donald were
there any um um anybody within that structure particularly um in the jails that that that gave
you guys um um grace or or or did they help you out did somebody grant you mercy or did they
star for you and and do you have that list as well i wish we had more of those but uh so yes there is
a there is a list uh specifically when it comes to the deep state barotter my friend ivan rakelin
he has a list of 350 also associated underneath uh the falchi lie killer himself um as well as
those associated to the j6 cover-up so we do have a short list of those as politicians and the j6
unconstitutional committee and what they did against us myself included and how they attacked
us uh the same goes with judges we know those judges inside the system uh neil i can speak to
those names as well gabriel can speak to that uh but i and there were many i mean many inside the
system that beat up j6ers uh inside the dc gulag specifically and sent them to the hospital so
every one of them should be fired the warden should be fired there needs to be an investigation
into all of this uh the same goes for the philly gulag where i was i myself put in numerous
grievances against the warden against others that were there and then uh second to your point there
were there were many who saw what was going on the they themselves were as guards treated horribly
you know they they it's a profiteering system so there's many instances where there's one guard
when there should be five okay uh they they don't give them the support that they need so they
themselves get hurt you know trying to break up a fight stop a stabbing stop something to occur
inside of the jail and then they themselves are hurt because they don't have adequate manpower
they don't have the support that they need so when i was advocating for prison reform i'm speaking
about educating those who are also bailiffs and those who are inside the prison bureau prisons
giving them the adequate training they need and giving them more manpower so that they could do
their job and then stop this penny for paupers that they were doing for these stupid charges
because they were turning just having a clip in a pocket of a young man into months and months in
jail and thousands of dollars in legal fees or getting bail covered for himself and not being
able to be with his family on thanksgiving for instance you know this type of stuff needs to
change and as i was grateful that while in uh quite frankly they said joshua if you had a
biden sticker on your truck over there you wouldn't be going through this they said hey i'm sorry i
have to book you right now i stood up against the district attorney and the commissioner and now
i'm in here and after 16 years as a beat cop i lost my gun and i'm just about to receive my
retirement and i'm just holding my head low and i'm sorry you're going through this i was having
the hoagies picked up and handed to me because they said man you're not going to get good food
in there and i know they're trying to put an axe against you and so as i was even being from
incarceration all the way to being imprisoned for 21 days in isolation the hand of god and the favor
of god came upon me where others who were there and guards stood up even to the point after we
had our hunger strike about seven days in i had guards saying go to messiahs go ask him those
questions there's nothing i can do for you you need to talk to that man so there were there were
that understood the plights even under covid and what we were so underneath the covid veil that was
happening and then the j6 veil that was happening to us calling us the terrorists that they were
and all their other lies and duplicitous statements that the guards inside were saying i can see
clearly that this is wrong there were other others that have given me personal testimony that were
in different groups that said actually i'm a member of your organization so as they were inside the
federal system inside of the police of the bureau of prisons they were saying i'm a member of your
organization and i think it's foolhardy and ridiculous what they're doing to you so there
there were many that were standing up and doing the best they could with in their limited scope
of influence to just maybe one day give us a little extra attaboy for support and i felt that
even as i left as a guard as i was praising god for my family and my friends helping to post
bail when they said i couldn't post bail we were able to then raise the 95 000 to get me out of jail
on thanksgiving and as i was i was being saluted by the guards because i was praising god on my
way out and they were grateful to see that i was released so they're and i even said
while i was in jail i said look you're you're listening to unlawful and i'm telling you you're
you're not going to be covered in this you continue in this activity even the nazis themselves were
held accountable to this horrible fascism of their day and if you continue to follow down this pathway
of this socialization and underneath the covid mandates you yourself will be held accountable and
of course their eyes glazed over and they didn't want to walk away in fear as they realized that
that was being recorded on the camera so i called them out for that and then others heard and they
said yeah i don't i don't want to be held accountable to what these guys are doing and i'm i'm leaving
this place and they left one last quick follow-up when will when will you make that list available
regarding my first question let me i can follow up on that that's part of what project primary is
about we're gonna have a list we're gonna have pictures we're gonna have every statement made
whether print or media we're gonna have politicians voting records we're gonna have decisions from the
judiciary that is all going to be on project primary the website is is being constructed at
the moment but that is absolutely essential for accountability we need the names we need the faces
and then we need if they're politicians we need the districts where they're at so that they can
be primaried we we have that we will we will spread that to to all thank you gary what is
primary what is primary can you explain yes and i encourage you to look up
deep you want to finish josh and after that oh yeah i just want to say look up the deep
state marauder ivan rakelin he has a list and that's the start that's one of them so primary
process is you know in u.s we have the congress and the senate so every two years senators are
up for re-election now you know we basically have two primary parties we have the the democrats and
the republicans so if there is a representative say in the republican party that's not serving
the people that's a deep state actor we call them here rhinos republican and name only
the primary processes we will have other challengers uh you know other uh republican uh congress
members try you know they vote it's a vote that will be have to be voted on before the general
election the general election will be you know between the democrat and the and the republican
so the what what the expression primary is is basically getting them out of office not even
allowing them to get to the general election will be putting our people in and that's a major
problem with america and throughout the world is the politicians are being chosen from the top down
they should be chosen by the people from the bottom up because those are the people that are
going to be you know those are the the officials that are going to be serving the people's interest
so i'm working closely with with many grassroots organizations that that are going to not only
help with the primary process but do one-on-one assistance for good men and women who actually
want to do certain who want to be in office for the right reasons not for personal enrichment
and grand isement which is what the majority of our politicians are in power for
excellent thank you all right on we go we've got three more and then stephen we've got
20 minutes to go john question questions
you're on the watch hello
okay anders yes hello we'll have any questions
great privilege hello
john it's a great privilege to hear to hear can you hear me it's a great privilege to hear your
j6 related veterans there so i'm trying to let's say make a pattern of three different issues and
i just run through it very fast so number one and the patriot act is a big problem it was created
after 9 11 which was created after a fold flag operation it was made within four weeks and it
is 1100 pages so who believes that i believe it was a deep state operation second this
the covet 19 definitely is a deep state operation today was supposed to be calling gorgias you
which i knew and fulmish and let's say the backside story of that is covet 19
it is all of it the jab the mask the mask the testing now we have found a lot of toxic in the
water in the milk in the food in dentists stuff in chemtrails cloud seeding and all above is
linked to radiation of 4g 5g which is including starlink which is a combined kill box
so i don't want to go too much deep into that but let's say this is confirmed by fulmish and it is
linked to a specialist the berry trower second there is this story with the iraq war veterans
the gulf war syndrome which was linked to other types of injections yes which i have both the uk
and u.s soldiers francis boil has been going into that and he he confirmed that the c19 jab is like
a bioweapon on the extreme and the post-traumatic stress syndrome might be let's say a combination
of both the toxins in those jabs as well as in let's say 5g microwave warfare okay so
yeah the the final story the j6 definitely is a deep state operation it doesn't include only
the marxist democrats but also some republican rhinos like lindsay gray and mich McConnell
supporting the prison terms sentences and that's a big problem we talked about primary
and i fully agree so so these are three different completely different let's say topics but they're
all connected to the same criminal gang yes but it is politicians these are let's say rhinos it
is democrats and it's a deep state they are they have different flags but they are evil people and
these needs to get out of the houses yeah so that's the military industrial complex at its best
yeah are you seeing all these three as a total package or is it are you seeing them separately
no no well for one i am unfortunately a as a go for veteran i have deal with go for syndrome
when i was 32 years old it was like i was a 60 old arthritic due to hyperexposure to the pv
pills from kuwait which i did not know at the time actually had course not only cursed or
citigens in them but toxins inside i was hyper exposed to those so it says calcification comes
out of my bones into my tendons and i have to shear them off through movement so every day
quite frankly i suffer with this and although i stay active it got to the point where before
i had to figure this out it's been 15 years for myself where i've been in a holistic focus to
get that out of my system which led me down this path quite frankly when it came to a holistic
conversation and also the injections that were occurring so i can speak to that as one who
understands uh person go for syndrome is real unexplained illnesses are real the exposure to
these chemical warfares are real and the military industrial complex profited off of all of that
including sending us to wars that were unnecessary and to push the military industrial complex more
in through afghanistan and then withdraw the way they did horrendously which caused the us13 to
occur in a loss of numerous lives of marines so i i stand up against all of that i do believe 5g
is used as a weapon i believe in technology and focusing in on expansion of that and protecting
others quite frankly have technologies that are coming live that are in the green space but are
inert energy that keep transfers i believe that needs to happen so that we can get energy throughout
our world and get into the hands of others to stop this stuff from happening again in the future
but uh the craig i believe in in what stargate wants to accomplish and i believe that together
with the proper support and with an america first policy agenda and those that i know to be person
actually have personal relationships with that will help to set those guidelines those guideposts
so that we can have the proper movement forward into the future where we can have the the healing
that we need for our civilization moving forward so i hope that kind of ties some of the questions
answered very good josh yep we're going to move on thank you anders that bring those elements
together very useful okay we're going to mash it and then we go to steven frost for the final
questions mashah thank you hello um i've been can you hear me yes he's some great thank you
i've been in other support of trump but now i'm confused and i would like your opinion or
explanation on the fda uh given fast track approval for the vaccination against cancer
for the biotech being into the deal again the same the very same biotech which knew
well prior to the so-called vaccination campaign that their job would cost 25 fold
of deaths compared to those who wouldn't be jacked so and they all into this one project 500 you know
including fast track i i don't understand it i i'm really eager to trust in trump but it's difficult
right now so it mean the previous issue that we had to deal with was you know the china virus
you know the china virus right we're speaking about that going back to 2020 right so the was
pretty clear a bio weapon that they just allowed happen whether it's through negligence or on
purpose which we're all facing with uh by i mean the president's own defense he's not an md okay
this is not something that's in his bailey wick he's a developer he's a very smart man highly
intelligent and one of his right hand advisors in his holistic medicine out of florida that's why
he first came out with hydroxychloroquine as a statement as well as supporting ivermectin and
he said hey go talk to your doctors okay this is not something that he was saying that he is a
scientist because he's not he's a statesman and he is a very intelligent man that believes in
holistic remedies and believes that the body has its own ability to heal itself and i quite frankly
his own gut doesn't believe in mrna and the need for that now uh with that said he trusts those who
around him that were and he in a humble fashion says well you're an a plus individual in this
space so i'm going to trust your judgments and he had a lot of people around him that were
untrustworthy well we can go through the names bouchy being one of them okay and many others
but having those uh illegitimate advisors around him he had bad advice so he's made that statement
himself publicly that he received a lot of bad advice and that he didn't know dc as well as he
does now and now he knows everything about it and i can share with you that he does and he has gotten
together like oh rfk jr who's an anti-vax statement and many others to come in and that's why we're
fighting so hard this week to see tulsi gabbard rfk and cash patel receive their their just position
and we're so grateful petex set this in and we're going to start seeing that change
so i hope that points to the focus and the conversation that he trusts those around him
that are scientists and he's removed us from the who you know we we see what's happening
uh quite frankly how the support to china and how it's juxtaposed to our allies and that he's
calling them to account and holding them accountable so with that said the the fast track statements
being in the past he still wants to see a change and he believes that it quite frankly needs to be
have sunlight on it so that does that help you masha with the statement and also the support
wow it's still about it's still about by antique um you know damaging people willingly
knowingly and they are into this so it's not quite the entire picture you made
more beautiful for me nothing nothing is the entire picture thank you for the question
marsha and thank you for your helping organizing speakers so uh steven frost we're going to now for
those of you who want to go on for another two or three hours tom rodman has that's why he sets up
the telegram meeting so this is a tight two and a half hours and then you know there's
time endless amounts of time on that so for those who can do that but thank you masha steven next
five seven minutes are yours so um joshua and uh derek and sorry the names escaped me there are
two others um yeah it's just derrick and joshua yeah so um i just wonder whether
do you have uh trump's ear derrick or or um or joshua specific to what question sir
so i'm a medical doctor uh there are very few doctors in the world medical doctors in the
world but there are some who agree with me there was no uh pandemic there was no diagnosis of
safe diagnosis of covet 19 and trump needs to understand that so what happened in march 2020
was a global coup d'etat yes it so the pandemic was a trojan horse if you understand what that is
i call it a pandemic so yes a trojan horse for totalitarianism and we're fighting totalitarian
there are other trojan horses for totalitarianism but it's very important that trump
understands or rfk junior understands that there's there was no pandemic and there was no
safe diagnosis of covet 19 and i can i can uh i can back that up that's hypothesis but doctors
do hypothesize unlike scientists who have to have dozens of randomized controlled trials before they
can make up their minds and lawyers who have to have everything proved beyond reasonable doubt
or beyond the balance probabilities so doctors when you have a sick patient in front of you
you do have to hypothesize and the more experience you have the better it's a bit like
your job in the military you know as a soldier the more experienced you are the safer you are
um right so in the case of a doctor the more experienced you are hopefully the the safer the
patient is but unfortunately in 2020 a siop was arranged shall we say a global siop
a global coup d'etat it was all about treason taking out countries yes they want to take out
they want to destroy human beings humanity and how do they do that they attack the church maybe
the family definitely and the nation state so we have to understand what the big picture is here
and we have as people and i'm so grateful to you for coming on today and talking so eloquently
about the stuff you have been talking about but in order for trump to solve the problem he needs
to know what the diagnosis is just as a doctor when he's trying to help his patient he needs to
have a damn good idea of what the truth is so that was why we formed this group
together and we've been battling uh we've had twice weekly meetings as for the last i can't quite
remember now three and a half years it seems like more and um we've been listening to people from
all over the world in all kinds of disciplines because the more people you talk to that's how
human beings come to the truth keep their minds open and and talk to lots of people and then
eventually they come to the answer but you know empires fall because the truth comes out eventually
and um and and but anyone no one knows how it happened if you understand me and essentially
it's a kind of spiritual thing where human beings connect and no one can work we're all human beings
so we can't work it out obviously so i i just want to make sure that if you get a chance to
talk to trump and i think you speak so eloquently and you are ex-military so i think you may get a
chance uh you should point out to him what i've just said that there are some doctors i can point
you to them i can point trump to them or his team or whomever rfk jr um if you if you see i put my
email i put my email in the chat if you have a specific summary that you can send to me that i
can review of your i believe in your hypotheses and i believe in hypothesizing as well and have
as the as numerous times so i could speak to that and understand your perspective so and i
believe it was a pandemic and it was a bio weapon that was unearthed on our continent our world
and what do you mean by a pandemic it was planned it was it was fake it was all the
it was all fugazi absolutely everything the public was told the uk the usa everywhere around the
world was a lie and i was one of the first ones to say that in the beginning too josh i think the
gain of function story is also a lie the reason that they've been putting that about is because
oh it's very illegal you know it's a gain of function research and all this yes but it
supports the narrative of pandemics being possible because in my opinion pandemics are not
possible because a deadly virus if you believe in viruses kills the host we were taught that at
medical school yeah so it's really important um but um i don't know how far trump can go you know
against these globalists i hope he can go all the way um and um it looks promising but people are
doubting and i think human beings need hope trump provides hope it's clear that there's a different
mood since last monday and around the world and human beings need hope because it with hope they
can fight but without hope and and we were being gaslit for all those years with biden and and
kamala harris it was just awful and that's gone and now the truth is coming out and i think it
will continue to come out i really hope so what do you think yes i concur i concur i concur with
that statement and as the truth continues i'm sure perspectives and judgments on what what happened
will change as well and that's what we need to do we need to continue to illuminate this and call
out the bad actors and call for accountability and uh quite frankly i mean i tried to explain
this to somebody else joshua frozen you tried to explain to someone else and then you went
the the deep state if you explain to somebody else it's as if utilizing china's um of transportation
they dropped a bomb on the world they thought they killed 1.5 million people wouldn't you be
egregious but because you saw the deaths occurring um mine in my in other people and then the death
jab and the bio weapon you didn't see it all happen in front of your face you're not you're
not calling for justice but there by utilizing by intubating people by putting uh horrible
horrible protocols into systems i had friends that got killed inside of medical hospitals when
they were just coming in for a sniffle uh there was no reason that those protocols were used
against them which destroyed their immune system or destroyed their internal organs so yes people
need to be held accountable to this and i hope and pray that others will hear this clearly from us
and joshua i think there's something else that you may not have realized but everything that was done
with a medical justification was completely unnecessary because the whole thing was a fraud
so um uh there were so what was occurring was exactly what was occurring in germany
in the second world war or what we've been led to believe it occurred and there were trials at
nuremberg the doctor's trial in particular and that was about human medical experimentation and
what occurred in 2020 was human medical experimentation and it's been continuing ever
since and it needs to be stopped and uh and the the mrna vaccines or whatever it is that products
which are trump has just announced now he's been misled there um in my opinion because that again
is human medical experimentation and we need to look into that seven doctors were put to death
in in nuremberg um on the second of june 1948 for human medical experimentation it's very serious
and there was no information so the lockdowns were psychological torture of human beings you do not
isolate human beings as you know from your experience in prison it's extremely dangerous
and um and i think a lot of people are stuck in stockham syndrome they've been psychologically
tortured by their own governments around the world into a state of stockham syndrome and you
try and get out of stockham syndrome if you don't even know you're in it you're right no very well
said sir so anyway i hope right well said state share with me more details be sure of the more
details and i'll do my best to get the information out yes i think i've got your email for some time
anybody else uh who we feel needs to hear it and i one thing i can say is that president trump is
against big pharma he's against these forever wars and i think he's probably the first president
since reagan who is is really going to take on this this global empire that is running our lives
and in many instances ruining our lives so we we share many of your sentiments and we we absolutely
will um pass them on to the people that need to hear it thank you um so and thank you so much
for coming on tonight um and speaking to us for so long um we need people like you who give up their
time to to come to speak to us and and thereby increase our understanding we've got it i think
it's about is it 1500 or 2000 members all around the world charles it's a huge 18 1800 invites but
it goes far broader than that and so and yeah and there's a lot of people watch the recording too
josh and derek and gabe and ozzie so that's also gets the message out so so if ever you've got any
news that you need to share in the uk and around the world we'll try and get it out as best we can
but we could do with people who are good on x or twitter um i i haven't put the effort in it takes
ages to build up a following um and um but we're a bit short on that i suppose we could get to
elon musk but we're not sure where he is so come on we gotta go okay well that's by the way can i
ask you what you think about elon musk i think he's a good man i look forward to working with him
okay all right i'm not sure everybody i'll add one one caveat to that i mean we we need to watch
everybody carefully absolutely i personally don't agree with what's going on with the h1b
um so i think there can always be self-interest uh that creep into things so like everybody we
need to watch people very closely including i mean i mean elon musk some some are saying you
know he has the biggest ego in the world so yeah i agree with that you have to watch him very very
carefully and make sure he's serving the american people and not himself well from my observations
he's extremely talented extremely intelligent but he lacks wisdom all right on we go yeah let's go
thank you everybody linesmen ball boys enjoy the tennis enjoy the rugby enjoy whatever you watch
gridiron enjoy your love making whatever you do to entertain yourself thank you steven thank you
jerome for organizing josh and derek and gabe and ozzy bye everybody yes thank you everyone
tom rodman has put the link in there for those of you with endless amounts of time
thank you for having me i'm sorry derek what'd you say i just said thank you for having us
oh absolutely so charles i should say that uh jerome should get the uh credit for suggesting
that we had the j6 is on today and it was only a few hours ago very good job yeah thank you everyone
thank you for the contributions see you next time bye fill that god bless god speed josh
with csj6petzl yes thank you bye