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Welcome everybody to Medical Doctors for COVID. Ethics in

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today's discussion, we have two speakers. This group was founded

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by Dr. Steven Frost over three years ago. I'm Charles Kovetz,

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the moderator. We have speakers from where so we have people

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from all around the world and professionals from all around

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the world. I'm going to truncate this introduction so that so

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our speaker can speak who's in a in a airport at the moment. Many

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of us thought the vaccines were okay. Now many of us say we're

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proudly passionate anti-vaxxers. If you're new here, please

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introduce yourself in the chat. If you publish anything and you

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want to promote it, put it in the chat. Most of us understand

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we're in the middle of World War Three, and that the medical

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science battle is only one of 12 battlefields. The other one is

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the is the information battle line. I will share those 12

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battlefields in due course. Most of us understand the development

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of science and the science is never settled. The meeting runs

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for two and a half hours. Our first speaker will speak for

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about an hour, and then we'll have a second speaker which who

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I will introduce in a moment. Steven Frost asks the first

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question each time it's a free speech environment and we don't

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support the offense industry. So if you're offended by anything,

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we lovingly don't care. We come with an attitude and

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perspective of love, not fear. Fear is the opposite of love.

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Fear squashes you love on the other hand expands you. The

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great challenge of Christianity is loving people who don't agree

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with you is loving people who don't behave how you want them

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to. It's a big challenge. These twice weekly meetings and not

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just talk fest an extraordinary range of actions and initiatives

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have been generated from linkages made by attendees in

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these meetings. If you have a solution or product put it in

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the chat the meeting is recorded and is uploaded on the Rumble

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channel. And now we have two presenters today as I said the

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first is going to remain anonymous and we thank him for

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for being willing to speak to us. He is a film producer and

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director, a well known film producer director who's going to

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share his experiences and truth around January 6 2021 activities

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in Washington DC. Our second speaker is Andrew Bridgen, the

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well known UK parliamentarian who is standing up for what this

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group stands up for which is truth, justice, ethics, freedom,

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and real health. And finally, thank you, Stephen Frost again

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for creating this group over three years ago. Okay, over to

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our anonymous presenter. Please speak up.

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Charles, how do you know he's here?

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Okay, there we are. Okay, sorry. Talk about timing. I was I

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got in here really early. But the took me an hour to get

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through the security line. And I was at the beginning of the line

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as I just popped through it. So there. So anyway, yeah, go ahead

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tell me what you want me to say or ask questions or whatever.

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Excellent. Well, how do you want us to address you?

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Just just whatever I don't know.

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Mr. Film Producer.

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That's right. Mr. Film Producer. All right. Well, first of all,

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welcome. You heard the intro and I'm glad you got through

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security. And we run we're totally happy to run as a

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questions. Why don't you share five minutes, you know your story

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in terms of the 24th on the sixth of January 2021. And then

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we're great at asking questions.

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Mr. Mr. Filmmaker, you may help you if if I told you that this

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group with fully aware of the fact that in 2020, there was a

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global coup d'etat in in in March 2020. So that may help you.

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So we know about treason. And we know that treason took place in

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all these countries. So if that's helpful.

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Yes, actually, my, my wife is from Brazil, and they had a very

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almost identical situation that even even more crazy, like more

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obvious that they just couldn't do anything about. And, but

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anyway, on the the other one, I was just, I don't know, I was

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just, I've done a lot of documentaries, this and that. And

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so I travel a lot. I've been all over the world and filmed in

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India, Africa, China, like Europe, so all over. And so

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anyway, I'm just a curiosity type person. And that day, we

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were like, you know, some of my friends were like, you know, we

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should go tomorrow. I don't know, just think like history's

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going down or something. And that's it. Didn't have any

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particular reason other than that. We were just like, I do a

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lot of stuff last minute. And so we just all hopped in the car,

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me and some friends. And one of my friends was a stunt man. And

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he was, he's like, Oh, you're gonna go, I'm gonna go. He's he

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was from the other part. And he said, I got to go to LA after

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that. But I'm gonna go by there. I'll ride my motorcycle up

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there. So we just met with a bunch of people. I'd been to the

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inauguration. And so I knew like, you got to get there super,

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super early to get anything. And so I went up there. And it was

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like, three o'clock in the morning, we went up so we

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wouldn't well, when I got there, there's like people on the

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there's already a line, you know, so it's a lot of people,

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you know, a lot of people, but already aligned, but it's three

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in the morning. And there's people on there with like

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filling out, writing these big signs, like tons like stacks of

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you know, Trump, you know, Oh, go Trump, blah, blah, blah, you

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know, just generic signs. But it was like, a couple of people

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writing dozens and dozens of signs, you know, so I thought

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that's kind of weird. And at that point, the only thing that

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I thought because we arrived the night before, and it was late at

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night, and we saw some of these what we probably anticipated was

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Antifa or something. And, but that's the only thing that I in

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my mind, I thought I probably, if anything, and Tifa people

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would probably try to stir up something. But we, we ended up.

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So in that line, that guy that had the, the, I can't even

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remember the name, the moose horns, or he happened to walk

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by. It's funny, because all these characters that ended up

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in the spotlight on this just happened to all, like be within

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a small range. Well, then the other guy that was literally

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next to us in line, this is like, you know, two hours later,

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we're just waiting because there was only certain amount of

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people they would let in the front part by the stage. And

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that's the only security there was no police. There was no zero

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police all day. There were no food trucks, the city had I'd

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already heard the city allowed no food trucks, no water,

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nothing. So there was no access to anything and no police at an

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event, which they're expecting hundreds of 1000s of people.

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And I don't know what the actual number but probably you know, in

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the neighborhood of 300,000, you know, on just basic, visually,

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what it seemed like. But so anyway, we're just there. And,

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and then this guy in front of us, he's like, ah, ff Trump, you

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know, just like angry, we're like, weirdo. And then his two

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look like sons, maybe they came up, and they they had a bunch of

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Trump swag. And all of a sudden, they just started started

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putting on Trump swag that they bought from a local little, you

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know, dealer thing. And then, so they all and then they just all

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dispersed, you know, and, and so I was like, these are

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troublemakers, you know, and so at that point, that was still

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all I figured it would just be like that kind of troublemaker

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kind of people. So go through the thing. My friend Trump was

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speaking and my friend was like, Oh, man, you could tell

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he's he's not fiery, like he usually is. He's, he can already

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tell what's going down is he's kind of sounds defeated, you

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know, like this is not going to change anything. So he knew it

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was kind of a, so he's like, Hey, I'm gonna go ahead and take

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out of here, because I got to go drive across the country. He's

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like, he said, so we're like, Okay, cool. Well, since we've

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been there since 3am, everybody's cell phone. So

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ironically, we could not upload anything. And this was early,

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early on, like literally, you know, 5am before the mass

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crowds really got there. They wouldn't even allow us to

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upload even a photo like so the internet from the entire area

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was throttled. And so I knew that just from a event standpoint,

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and production where you you know, so I was like, they don't

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want anybody to know what everybody sees here. And I just

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thought it was the speech or whatever. So there was only a few

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cameras out of all the cameras on Trump. There was only a few

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that were actually covering the speech. And I thought it was a

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rather small amount of cameras to be considering this was such

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a talked about, you know, day. And so anyway, and they would

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never turn around and show the crowd. So it was just an even

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jump, I believe pointed that out in a speech like, Hey, why don't

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you turn around and show the crowd? You know, this is math,

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you know, amount of people up on the hill. So anyway, my phone's

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going not here, but that day was going dead. And so I said, Hey,

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my friends, I was like, we get separated or anything. Let's

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just meet at the Washington Monument. After this is over,

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like, you know, noon or whatever. And so and sure enough,

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all of our phones went were almost dead. So mine, I turned

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mine off because it was I'd been there so long. And so that was

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over. We just thought it's pretty much over. And we were

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like, I don't know if I want to go over there and stand there

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because I was like, we got a long drive. So but I was like,

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I'm definitely hungry. Well, finally, we saw a food truck.

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And it was like some chicken wings probably saved me a lot of

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grief in my life by being there. But the so it was it was from a

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distance. But it was halfway between the Washington Monument

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and the Capitol. And so I said, I don't care. At that point, I

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was famished. I mean, like, I don't care if I stand in line

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for two hours. Give me some chicken wings. And so I got in

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line. And that's when my brother called. And he said, Kyle,

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where are you at, man? And now he wasn't at home. And so

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anyway, he said, he, and he was like, he goes, whatever you do,

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don't go to the Capitol. They're having an insurrection or

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something. I was like, what are you talking about, man? I'm

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standing here, I can see like, you know, I was a couple of

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football fields away, but I could see, you know, the crowd

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and stuff. I couldn't see anything from there. So I was

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like, Okay, but it was my brother. So I was like, Okay,

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yeah, I'll stay. I'm not going anywhere anyway. I'm sitting

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here. So then we can't get there's no internet at this

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point. So there's no, you can't get on. There's no news. You

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don't have any clue of anything's happening. So

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ironically, at this point, I don't know the time I can't

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remember, because I'm not great on numbers. But sometime it was

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early afternoon, and there's still no police and this is

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supposedly when so then I get another call from a friend. And

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he goes, Hey, he said, Hey, where you at? And I was like, Oh,

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I'm over here at the he goes, Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, now this is a

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guy I hadn't seen there yet. And he's a manager of a famous

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somebody who's a famous liberal. Ironically, he's a conservative

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guy, but he was at this event. So but he has contacts in the

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media because he's, you know, connected to famous circles. And

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so and well, they don't know that he's conservative, though.

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But he goes, I'm in the Capitol. And I was like, What are you

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doing in there? And at this point, I still don't I said my

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brother said something bad. He goes, Oh, no, no, they, they

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opened up the gates. They said, there was some bomb threats in

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the nearby buildings coming here, you'll be safe. And I was

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like, Okay, he goes, Why don't you come over here? I was like,

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Nah, I'm waiting here for food. I don't. At that point, there

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still wasn't other than my brother, there was still wasn't

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any visible signs of anything that was going on from a, you

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know, from a distant perspective. And so he's in

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there on the bottom floor. And he's just like walking around,

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you know, and then so at that point, then my other so then

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there was this big like, wait, this is where I thought, okay,

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something's wrong. But I thought it was like Antifa all the way

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around the entire and from a production standpoint, because

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I've been in television and stuff my whole life. I mean, not

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my whole life, but my career is, I was like, there were cameras

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everywhere around the Capitol. Now, I didn't know exactly how

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many till later when I got back and saw the news. But there were

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cameras positioned all over the place. So that the Capitol, so

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they whoever whoever the teams were, they they anticipated to

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the event was not Trump speaking, but it was the

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Capitol. Even though there was nothing scheduled for the

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Capitol, it was just a, you know, a people going to stand

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there until they found the verdict, I guess. But so I'm

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sitting there, and then still no police anywhere to be found.

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And supposedly all this stuff's going down. And then I can't see

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anything at that point. And all of a sudden, there was these big

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all the way around from the entire from the entire around the

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Capitol, from like a U shaped horse shoe where everybody's at

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there was this kind of like explosions. And then you hear I

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hear all this noise and it looked like some kind of gas or

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something in the air. Well, basically, it was they tear

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gassed, you know, 30,000 people. Yeah. And then they started

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shooting from the Capitol, basically shooting rubber

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bullets into the crowd. So ironically, the incitement was

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not. So I was thinking, of course, if now first we thought

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was this like a bomb or something Antifa related, but

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I'm kind of from a distance. So I'm not in the middle of it. But

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I can see what's going on. You know, it's like sitting on the

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front bleachers at a football game, you can see what's going

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on in the field, but you're not on the field. And so and I was

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like, what in the world is going on? So anyway, all of a sudden,

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all these things go around. Well, that's when evidently like

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some more chaos. Now from a farther perspective, the chaos

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is still later, what we saw was upfront, you know, close. Well,

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so they were incited by the people who were literally

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shooting rubber bullets and tear gas, 10s of 1000s of people. So

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if you're doing that with a group of a lot of who are

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rednecks and veterans and everything else, you know, your

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intention is to inside a crowd. So that was so anyway, at that

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point, one of my other friends, called the guy that was on the

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motorcycle. And he said, Hey, man, my friend, he said, he

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said, Get out of there. He goes, if you're still there, get out

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of there. This is you did not want to be that place. He's a

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military guy. And he said, So anyway, now at this point, it

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still doesn't look like there's any chaos. There's still

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literally like grandma's pushing cars with little kids toward the

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crowd. And so we would say, Hey, man, I want to go up there. I

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heard something bad's going on. Oh, okay. And they just kept

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walking because from a distance other than that one big, you

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know, kind of like tear gas explosion kind of thing, couldn't

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see anything going on from back here. And so I started we just

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take our time. We're just walking away. I'm like, well, we

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can go get our car. So but at that point, there's still no

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cell phone. There's no I mean, you could call them cell phone,

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but there's no data. It was so throttled because I tried to

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upload just a photo from the monument and it took like 30

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minutes for it to actually post. So the internet was so

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throttled down that it was almost an impossible to get

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anything online. So now we go so we run back to the hotel. Well,

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then when we're at the hotel, across in the Arlington way,

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that's the first time suddenly I see what the rest of the world

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is seeing. And I was like, Oh, no, as we're about to leave now

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this is this is like the after the supposedly instructions been

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going on for two hours. There's still no police officers there.

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And then all of a sudden, like a B movie, Steven Seagal movie,

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here come the police and force like there's both sides of the

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road, which were all closed down. All of a sudden, I don't

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know how many probably 2030 40 police cars. So I was sitting

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there thinking like, these guys have been sitting sitting

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somewhere all day, waiting in a part of the game lot waiting

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for a phone call to say, come, come, you know, where were these

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guys out if it's on national TV, for two hours, if there's this

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big instruction, you would think the local, the Capitol police

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or whatever the DC police, I don't know which one you would

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think they would be there the second but they weren't so they

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were waiting somewhere for a phone call to say okay now, and

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they all showed up and it was like it was like a production.

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It was so orchestrated. Well, when I get back to the and

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that's what I thought at that moment, I knew like, this is a

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big, fat, orchestrated event, like from a reverse coup sort of

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standpoint, you know, and so I go over and so at the hotel,

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then you see all these people are Oh, my goodness, I can't

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believe that it up. And then we're like, wait a minute, my

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the first thing I noticed the first camera was inside the

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Capitol, somebody breaking in through the window. And from the

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the Capitol. Well, my first thought being in production is

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number one, that's an area that's closed off for the

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Congress for television for anything, there's nothing to be

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go on there. So why is there a camera from that angle shooting

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down the hallway in a closed off area of the Capitol, where there

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is no suspicion. So I was like, that camera was there from the

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beginning. And that's the only way you would have caught this

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first break in. So I was like, all these people that were

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absent over at the other part, they were all right there. And

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they were already they already knew like they everybody on this

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thing, they knew here's the shots we need to get, we need

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to get the break in shots, we need to get this this. And so

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that's what they did. So anyway, they took and so at that point,

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we're gone, we're at the hotel, and we're like getting on the

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road. And, and then my friend, who was inside the building, he

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got out and he was like, don't, don't call me don't. He was

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like, he was scared now because he realized what just went down

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from the inside. And so of course, he's afraid. So

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ironically, he had texted the head of two major news networks.

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And he did this for his own protection the day before. And

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he said, Hey, I'm going to be at the Capitol. And so he said,

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if you want me to get any footage for you, I'm going to go up

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there tomorrow. So had he not done that right now, he would be

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probably sitting in prison. But because he did that one thing,

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the next morning, which he screenshotted his screen the

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next morning, the hit all of his text threads on his phone that

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connected to those people were erased offside. So he there was

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they erased every single text message that he had sent to the

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heads of networks. So there was no even trace of communication

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to them, which made him also be afraid again. But at the same

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time, I know that's why he was on the protected list, because

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he communicated directly with the presidents of networks. And

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so anyway, so we that was that was in a basic sense, that's

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that was our experience. It was kind of from a distance, but I

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watched what I saw was, and as I saw the news then, and it was so

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radically different perspective of what actually went down, and

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how they and this is what they do in the military, they, they

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entrap, and they draw in, and then they flip the script, and

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then they inside. And so it was so it was so well orchestrated.

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In fact, I think to the point, they were elated that it went

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off so much better than they planned. I think their plans was

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get some people to break in. And that's what those guys in the

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day, and there were hundreds of those throughout the crowd that

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were there from since 3am. They had some swag on the head

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stuff. I think those were the plants. And they were there. And

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that their job was to create that little star. And then when

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the shooting happened and everything else, and then the

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shooting the crowd and check. That's when it all went into

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chaos. And I think the powers that we were probably elated

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about that. So that's it. That's about basically my story.

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That's, that's a pretty compelling story. And how amazing

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that you had to get there 3am, which you did. Now, we have

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questions. Steven starts with questions. And we know that we're

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halfway through the hour. So thank you so much for

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articulating this story. Those of you who have questions,

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please put your hands up in that normal way. And we're Steven

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Frost, Colin. Steven.

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Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. Sorry. I'm here.

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Okay, go for it, Steven.

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So just two seconds. I'll get the video on. So thank you, Mr.

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Film Producer. So anyway, I wanted to ask you, how would you

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characterize so you may I can hear some interruption.

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This the this the

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airport noise going so

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how would you characterize what you saw? You're an experienced

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film producer, director. How would you or do you want us to

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ask you questions? So

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basically a question. I mean, yeah, I just thought it was like

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a huge production, you know, like they they, you know, the

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bombs go off in this building. This pushes people, they open

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people up into the galley. They say, hey, come on in. This is

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safe. They they close them off inside. They're all inside. They

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don't know. And then on the upper level, then they they bring

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in their little cronies and break some windows. And, and

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then that was the setup. And then there was all along, like

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we got to make him to a criminal. So like it, from the

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get go, it was just like, how do we do this on a big scale, all

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the cameras were already there. There was no reason to be in the

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Congress at that point. They were already in shot all of

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them. And so they had cameras everywhere, all around the top

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edge of the building. The other thing that was whenever I left,

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they had full control of the social media, because they

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could no one could post. So as I was leaving driving down the

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interstate, all of a sudden people who were also leaving were

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posting videos across TikTok and you know, YouTube and whatever.

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Well, so I saw one I was like, Whoa, this crazy look at this.

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This is what we were in. Well, then I went to show my brother

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and within minutes, that video was gone. And so everybody that

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was posting any video that was not from the narrative side,

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they were out of can't imagine how massive of an amount of

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people it would have to take to to our algorithm or whatever. So

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but what I noticed is they were gone faster from YouTube or

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Facebook or Instagram, but TikTok is algorithm differently.

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So it's based on similar, similar things. So they were

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popping up. So I downloaded an app, and I started downloading

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videos, I downloaded probably 700 videos of people as they

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were posting them, because I knew within minutes, they'd be

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gone. So I was just like, because the people on the

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grounds videos were, they were all over the map, but it showed,

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you know, people were like walking in, oh, yeah, here's

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this. There's people, the police officers letting them in. And

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here's this and that, you know, so it was a, it was a too clear

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of a perspective. So it was definitely coordinated between

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the social media companies, between, oh, and here's the

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other thing. And this is this was what, as I was like, okay, to

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me, the biggest standout was like, okay, the police, you

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know, why that that was, to me, well, so I looked up who the

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guy was, I don't remember now, you know, years ago, but like,

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but he you could look him up. But anyway, he evidently stepped

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down the next day. Well, he was never questioned, never on the

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news, never anywhere. But he decided to resign the next day

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quietly. Well, then fast forward years or two, you can look it

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up. I don't know exactly when but right about the time that,

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that he may end up having to testify, he conveniently died

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of natural or something, you know, whatever they die. And so

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ironically, because he was the guy who had direct connection to

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whoever the Speaker of the House or whoever would be the person

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that calls the Capitol Police. And so he was conveniently

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retired and then conveniently died before he could ever tell

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anyone or say or be forced to tell anyone. Obviously, he was

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part of it.

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How long after six of January did it take him to die?

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That was like a year or so later, because he just kind of

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disappeared off the map. And then I heard that they were

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going to have a trial and he was and then and then that's that

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was the only time I'd ever heard of it. I didn't look dig into it

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much or anything. At that point, that was a long time later.

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So the people around the world. So the sixth of January is

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important because it's inauguration day for it was

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inauguration day for President Biden. Is that right?

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All right. Now it was it was just the day that they were

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going to say if if

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Trump had if if Mike Pence was going to do the the votes to

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extend the I don't even know I'm not a general sense not a

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political person. So like, you know, political savvy as far as

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terminologies, but it was but it was that they were he was going

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to see if the vote had gotten certified or not. And that and

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that Pence was the that was the day that Pence was. So it was

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just a rally to show support so that sometime in the afternoon

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they were supposed to and they didn't know when it could be two

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three, five o'clock. But by the end of the day, they would know

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if the votes were certified or not. And so that's why it was

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there as a yes.

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So inauguration day is the 20th of January. Is it a from

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memory? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yes. So the importance of it is that

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so on the sixth of January, President Trump was still in

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power, correct?

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Yes, yes. Yes. So all this happened under Trump's watch,

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allegedly. But it looks like it didn't. So

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this was the Wait a minute. This was the when did this happen?

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What year was it?

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Was January 2021?

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2021. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So this was after let's say, yeah, 2021.

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Yeah. Okay. Okay. This is the end of that. Okay.

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Yeah. So the point I'm trying to make is, how was all this

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organized with Trump in power? So an apparent insurrection,

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which wasn't an insurrection was organized at the highest level

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while Trump was still in power? How could that happen?

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Well, I mean, you're dealing with people who all day, every

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day, they're, you know, military run operations, no one ever

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knows about and you know, half the world operations stuff

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nobody ever knows about. So like, you know, I think I mean,

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even Time magazine, a year later came out with a pay look, and

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they were kind of at that point, I almost bragging about it, not

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not about January 6. But it's about the election of how big

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tech and the big companies and the politicians, everybody got

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together to make sure Trump didn't get in power. And they did

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it, Time magazine literally did an entire article, huge write up

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front page of all about how they all got together and work

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together to make sure that Trump and it worked and they saved

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democracy and blah, blah, blah. And so it was even they're

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bragging about it after the fact of look what we essentially

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what we pulled off. Yeah.

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But essentially, it seems to me that it was a coup d'etat.

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Oh, yeah, that's that's what that was our sense when we left,

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we were all sitting in the car. We're like, we just we just

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watched the coup of America. But like, that's what we felt in a

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in a visceral sense of like, we watched history go down in the

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worst possible like we were in, you know, Cuba or something,

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you know.

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So then they then they blame Trump for supporting

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insurrection, which wasn't an interaction. It was

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manufactured by evil forces. It's I see. Yeah, maybe I'm not

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I'm not. So we've got three, we've got three people with the

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hands up who are all American citizens. So I'll let them go

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ahead. So I'd like to know what David Holland would like to ask

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you. And I'd like to know what Glenn Macco in particular.

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Okay, well, Rose. Excellent. Well done, Steven. Okay, Rose,

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you're first and Dave then Glenn.

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Oh, hi, I just have two quick questions. Have you been working

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with?

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closely?

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Well, yes, but that might identify him. Rose. So

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yeah, yeah, I have met. I don't know the other ones. But yeah,

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actually, I've met both of them. But I don't know. I don't know.

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Okay, I just didn't know if you were helping contribute. And if

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not, I was gonna say, are you going to put out your own?

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No, I just, if I did, I gave over a bunch of stuff to people

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that, that could use it to I didn't want to be on the it

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list. But the, but I did. Yeah, but but I did give everything I

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had over to some people that and has been popped up into some

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other places. So you know, that that was

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okay, Rose was after you have two questions you're done. Okay.

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Dave.

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Yeah, sure. thoughts. Can you hear me? Okay. Yep. Yes. Sure.

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That's thanks for coming. How many cops would you say were on

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scene if you had to take a while guesstimate?

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Zero, the until, you know, three o'clock in the afternoon or

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whenever it was like,

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how many would you say were there? How many would you say

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were there? You know, sort of at peak cop hour?

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I saw probably 3040 cars, you know, pop in at the same time.

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So it's very small number. Yeah, yeah. Even at that point, it was

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small number. So I don't think they were, it was more like a

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show like, oh, the police are here, you know, like, but this

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was like hours, like, unless no one in DC has the television,

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then then everybody at the police department didn't know

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there's something going on. You know, why weren't they there?

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Well, you know, there's only one reason. Yeah. Okay, so I'm

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gonna pop a cop. Yeah, my dad was a cop. Chief Deputy

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Sheriff's not there. But, but so I grew up around that. Yeah.

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I'm going to pop a few things out. You can bite on anything

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you want, or let it go by one is supposedly five cops committed

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to one died by some cause. Four cops committed suicide. Do you

510
0:33:05 --> 0:33:08
have any thoughts? Since you've been immersed in this, I thought

511
0:33:08 --> 0:33:11
you might have thoughts on that. I'll bounce another couple off

512
0:33:11 --> 0:33:15
you. John Sullivan, the famous Antifa actor who also filmed the

513
0:33:15 --> 0:33:21
Ashley Babbitt shooting was filmed interacting with Ray Epps,

514
0:33:21 --> 0:33:23
the feds. So that's a plot thickener in case you have an

515
0:33:23 --> 0:33:28
opinion on that. Mike Johnson supposedly finally released the

516
0:33:28 --> 0:33:34
tapes from inside the Capitol, I'm told this weekend, but I

517
0:33:34 --> 0:33:38
haven't yet seen definitive evidence. And then the last

518
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thing I'd like to mention, if any of these catches your

519
0:33:40 --> 0:33:45
attention, the Ashley Babbitt Babbitt shooting looked to me

520
0:33:45 --> 0:33:49
like it was staged. And I poured through hours and hours of

521
0:33:49 --> 0:33:52
videotapes of it. And the whole thing looks staged. And I was

522
0:33:52 --> 0:33:56
going to write about it. But it was very video driven. So I

523
0:33:56 --> 0:33:59
wasn't having luck. I showed it to some very smart friends. And

524
0:33:59 --> 0:34:03
they said, I see your point. But so I eventually backed away.

525
0:34:03 --> 0:34:08
Three years later, Cheryl Atkinson did the story. And she

526
0:34:08 --> 0:34:11
brought in two federal agents and they looked at the footage.

527
0:34:11 --> 0:34:14
They missed some stuff. But they looked at the fitted footage and

528
0:34:14 --> 0:34:18
said, none of this makes sense from the perspective of a

529
0:34:18 --> 0:34:21
policeman. So if any of that rings a bell familiar, you want

530
0:34:21 --> 0:34:23
to comment on love to have it love to hear it.

531
0:34:24 --> 0:34:29
Yeah, I mean, I've heard a lot of all that I don't I didn't. As

532
0:34:29 --> 0:34:33
far as like I'm just thinking from my witness side of like, I

533
0:34:33 --> 0:34:35
don't know what all went down in there. But I can tell you that

534
0:34:35 --> 0:34:40
people, at least on the lower level, they didn't know any

535
0:34:40 --> 0:34:42
intention. They were just that's why it looks like they're

536
0:34:42 --> 0:34:44
walking around because they were just told like, here, go in

537
0:34:44 --> 0:34:48
here. Safe. Yeah. So like that's what the upper level people were

538
0:34:48 --> 0:34:52
the ones that there were the problems were and I and yeah,

539
0:34:52 --> 0:34:56
like you say, the FBI guys there. Ironically, even just

540
0:34:56 --> 0:34:59
recently, somebody came out with that video of them basically

541
0:34:59 --> 0:35:02
bragging about it. Like, oh, yeah, it's how easy it is to

542
0:35:02 --> 0:35:07
manipulate people and talking specifically about that. So like,

543
0:35:07 --> 0:35:11
yeah, I yeah, it's just a lot of like, I don't know why I was

544
0:35:11 --> 0:35:14
there. Like exactly. Like I didn't have a camera or

545
0:35:14 --> 0:35:17
nothing. My phone was almost dead. So or was dead at that

546
0:35:17 --> 0:35:23
point. But uh, but I, so I don't, you know, I always think

547
0:35:23 --> 0:35:27
wherever I end up, I'm supposed to be there. And so I always I

548
0:35:27 --> 0:35:30
end up in like, Forrest Gump, my whole life is like Forrest Gump,

549
0:35:30 --> 0:35:34
pop up random places. I'm like, how did I get in this situation?

550
0:35:34 --> 0:35:41
And, and I, but, but I guess it was just to, to, to have

551
0:35:41 --> 0:35:46
witness to it, but then to share through, you know, connections

552
0:35:46 --> 0:35:49
or whatever things that could help maybe make a difference.

553
0:35:49 --> 0:35:52
And you know, all of us, we were like, wondering, like, why, you

554
0:35:52 --> 0:35:54
know, wow, what just happened? You know, it was it was one of

555
0:35:54 --> 0:35:58
those deepest things that you see in life, but you felt like,

556
0:35:58 --> 0:36:05
yeah, I felt like this overwhelming, like, wow, I don't

557
0:36:05 --> 0:36:09
think no one, nobody knows, you know, so except people there, I

558
0:36:09 --> 0:36:12
think most everybody there kind of had a pretty good idea of

559
0:36:12 --> 0:36:15
what happened. But then as they were even saying anything, they

560
0:36:15 --> 0:36:19
were censored, you know, so it's very, you know, dang, it's very

561
0:36:19 --> 0:36:26
China as sort of, you know, you know, our narrative is the only

562
0:36:26 --> 0:36:29
way. And they did it successfully as far as in a general sense,

563
0:36:29 --> 0:36:33
it's finally years later, starting to come out more stuff,

564
0:36:33 --> 0:36:37
but they pretty much, I believe, accomplished what they set out

565
0:36:37 --> 0:36:40
to do. And that was to frame him up so that he can, he was there

566
0:36:40 --> 0:36:43
was the goal, I think, was to frame him up as a criminal, so

567
0:36:43 --> 0:36:47
he can't run for president. And, and that was the intent. And

568
0:36:47 --> 0:36:51
that's what they pretty much did. And until just recently, I

569
0:36:51 --> 0:36:54
don't think much people even considered it anything else. I

570
0:36:54 --> 0:36:58
lost some friends over it just were like, I can't believe you're

571
0:36:58 --> 0:37:02
there. I can't talk to you ever again. I can't work with you.

572
0:37:02 --> 0:37:05
And, you know, you're an interactionist. And I'm like,

573
0:37:06 --> 0:37:07
no clue.

574
0:37:11 --> 0:37:18
So so for some of us Americans, the post j six response and other

575
0:37:18 --> 0:37:22
things after that the weaponization of the DOJ is a

576
0:37:22 --> 0:37:24
combination of both end of empire and the most treasonous

577
0:37:24 --> 0:37:28
things we've ever witnessed. I will yield the Florida Glen.

578
0:37:29 --> 0:37:33
Really? Yeah, absolutely.

579
0:37:34 --> 0:37:35
Thank you, David.

580
0:37:36 --> 0:37:41
Okay, great. So a couple things came up. Let me help clarify

581
0:37:41 --> 0:37:45
them. One was who was in charge. Now the Capitol Police is a

582
0:37:45 --> 0:37:47
completely different unit than any of the other police

583
0:37:47 --> 0:37:51
elements. And they are completely controlled by the

584
0:37:51 --> 0:37:56
the house speaker. So at that time, it was Nancy Pelosi. And

585
0:37:56 --> 0:38:01
the the gentleman that was ahead of the Capitol Police spoke after

586
0:38:01 --> 0:38:06
that multiple times around his request to involve additional

587
0:38:06 --> 0:38:09
including the National Guard, and his request was rejected by

588
0:38:09 --> 0:38:10
Nancy Pelosi.

589
0:38:11 --> 0:38:12
And yeah,

590
0:38:14 --> 0:38:17
another element of what was actually going on. So they were

591
0:38:17 --> 0:38:23
reviewing the electoral college voting. And several states had

592
0:38:23 --> 0:38:30
multiple delegations that were disputing the the Biden set of

593
0:38:30 --> 0:38:35
of electoral votes going to certain states. And what happens

594
0:38:35 --> 0:38:39
in that case is the Congress is responsible for reviewing the

595
0:38:39 --> 0:38:42
cases and deciding either to send it back to those states for

596
0:38:42 --> 0:38:45
review, and then the states, you know, coming back at a

597
0:38:45 --> 0:38:49
different time, or that the Congress reviews the actual

598
0:38:49 --> 0:38:52
people that are there and they say, No, this is good enough, we

599
0:38:52 --> 0:38:57
can pass judgment ourselves. And so the expectation was that the

600
0:38:57 --> 0:39:01
challenges were really quite solid. And that it was likely

601
0:39:01 --> 0:39:05
that many of the states were going to be sent back to for

602
0:39:05 --> 0:39:09
review back to their states, and then have to come back, you

603
0:39:09 --> 0:39:12
know, days or weeks later, to say that they, you know, that

604
0:39:12 --> 0:39:15
they went through that, that review process and concluded

605
0:39:15 --> 0:39:20
which of the of the slates were appropriate. So what happened is

606
0:39:20 --> 0:39:25
because of the the the the overall activities that day, the

607
0:39:25 --> 0:39:27
Congress came back into session and say, Oh, no, no, we can't

608
0:39:27 --> 0:39:32
delay anymore, we have to push through the primary delegations

609
0:39:32 --> 0:39:35
as as being correct, and basically deny all the

610
0:39:35 --> 0:39:41
challenges. So that was kind of the mechanics of it all. Your

611
0:39:42 --> 0:39:46
commenting around no police around. So I'm assuming you

612
0:39:46 --> 0:39:51
would also agree that the absence of any DC police was a

613
0:39:51 --> 0:39:57
clear indication of intense to not be capable of controlling

614
0:39:57 --> 0:39:59
the crowd or controlling what was going on.

615
0:40:00 --> 0:40:04
Yes. And there was no up until the afternoon, there was

616
0:40:04 --> 0:40:07
nothing. So even though I saw all these people that early on

617
0:40:07 --> 0:40:09
that I thought, wow, these are troublemakers, there was no

618
0:40:09 --> 0:40:14
trouble in the crowd. So that I don't think they were there to

619
0:40:14 --> 0:40:17
be troublemakers during Trump's speech. They were there to be

620
0:40:17 --> 0:40:19
troublemakers later in the day, because obviously they hated

621
0:40:19 --> 0:40:22
jobs. God's in front of us was literally like f bombing Trump

622
0:40:22 --> 0:40:27
Trump, like like psychotic like f, f, f, f, f, f, f, f, f, f, f,

623
0:40:27 --> 0:40:30
over and over f, obviously, you know what the f, f, f, f, f, f,

624
0:40:30 --> 0:40:33
without saying it. But, but like, you know, so it was like a

625
0:40:33 --> 0:40:35
psychotic nature. So I don't, you know, I don't know who,

626
0:40:35 --> 0:40:40
where I just was just as an observer of life in general. I

627
0:40:40 --> 0:40:44
was just like, okay, watch out this guy, you know, like, but,

628
0:40:44 --> 0:40:47
but then when you saw it was a bunch of them, and they all put

629
0:40:47 --> 0:40:50
Trump on, then you're like, okay, there's definitely

630
0:40:50 --> 0:40:51
something going on. And then nothing happened, you know,

631
0:40:51 --> 0:40:55
during the speech, after the speech, nothing, probably 90% of

632
0:40:55 --> 0:40:58
the crowd left, there's probably 30,000 out of the 300. Yeah, I

633
0:40:58 --> 0:41:01
don't know the sack numbers, but that were left, you know, there

634
0:41:01 --> 0:41:05
might have been 50,000 left. But you know, so it wasn't even

635
0:41:06 --> 0:41:08
most of the people just kind of thought that's the event. And

636
0:41:08 --> 0:41:10
that was all it was. And the rest of them were just hanging

637
0:41:10 --> 0:41:13
around till, oh, let's see what they say, you know, it, they

638
0:41:13 --> 0:41:16
said, you know, it could be two o'clock and, or it could be

639
0:41:16 --> 0:41:20
later, you know, when they give the decision on what you just

640
0:41:20 --> 0:41:24
said about the states. And so, yeah, it was, it was just a, it

641
0:41:24 --> 0:41:30
was kind of a surreal sort of, like, you know, and I being a

642
0:41:30 --> 0:41:32
curiosity seeker, if I hadn't been so hungry, I might have

643
0:41:33 --> 0:41:39
been closer and not even talk in the room right now. So you know,

644
0:41:40 --> 0:41:43
I'm kind of thankful, you know, that I was from a distance.

645
0:41:43 --> 0:41:43
So

646
0:41:43 --> 0:41:48
well, excellent description from a technical viewpoint of, you

647
0:41:48 --> 0:41:51
know, so how people set up and, and film things and have camera

648
0:41:51 --> 0:41:56
shots set appropriately, from the various things that you

649
0:41:56 --> 0:41:57
collected.

650
0:41:57 --> 0:41:58
That's that's what I figure that's,

651
0:41:59 --> 0:42:01
yeah, there was my phone.

652
0:42:01 --> 0:42:04
No, let me finish the question from the things you collected.

653
0:42:04 --> 0:42:11
Had you able to get images of the camera persons that that were

654
0:42:11 --> 0:42:13
actually doing the official filming?

655
0:42:14 --> 0:42:18
Yeah, I actually got I gave it over to someone who was

656
0:42:19 --> 0:42:22
connected into Congress or whatever, just gave him my phone

657
0:42:22 --> 0:42:25
here, you grab anything you want off of it. Later, my phone

658
0:42:25 --> 0:42:28
actually broke. But I just gave it to him here, take whatever

659
0:42:28 --> 0:42:32
off of there. And so that way you have, you know, the stuff

660
0:42:32 --> 0:42:35
that I collected from TikTok videos and whatever that I was

661
0:42:35 --> 0:42:38
able to grab from other random because after that, you know,

662
0:42:38 --> 0:42:42
no one else reposted once they can't accounts were banned and

663
0:42:42 --> 0:42:46
people's videos disappeared and all that very quickly. Then

664
0:42:46 --> 0:42:52
after that, they, you know, pretty much new cycles out

665
0:42:52 --> 0:42:56
nobody. So there's 10s of 1000s of people with videos on their

666
0:42:56 --> 0:43:03
phones to this day that no one's ever seen. Yeah. But I

667
0:43:03 --> 0:43:06
don't think on the place that was interesting is that the only

668
0:43:06 --> 0:43:10
security period at the entire event that I ever saw and I was

669
0:43:10 --> 0:43:13
looking because at that point I was kind of like, where's the

670
0:43:13 --> 0:43:19
police? It was the secret Trump secret service on the part that

671
0:43:19 --> 0:43:26
they were detail on they would do, you know, x ray machines

672
0:43:26 --> 0:43:29
like the airport going into the front lawn, which is where he

673
0:43:29 --> 0:43:33
spoke. So the everybody in there had to go through security, but

674
0:43:33 --> 0:43:36
it was not local security. It was it was like secret service

675
0:43:36 --> 0:43:41
security. So is the only the only security that I saw till

676
0:43:41 --> 0:43:45
later, obviously, there was there were people up in the

677
0:43:45 --> 0:43:49
capital all over the place that were shooting bullets and stuff.

678
0:43:49 --> 0:43:52
So they were they were there shooting rubber bullets, but

679
0:43:52 --> 0:43:56
they were there. You know, they weren't in the crowd. They were

680
0:43:56 --> 0:43:59
there. They were waiting at the Capitol basically, I know, like

681
0:43:59 --> 0:44:03
an assistant, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But from from

682
0:44:03 --> 0:44:06
just a visceral point of view of like, I'm always looking at

683
0:44:06 --> 0:44:09
stuff and I'm always looking at shots. I was like, it was a very

684
0:44:09 --> 0:44:12
peaceful event. So peaceful. In fact, that you could have 300,000

685
0:44:12 --> 0:44:15
people and no police officers and nothing happened. Like that's

686
0:44:15 --> 0:44:18
pretty much my would be a definition of a peaceful event.

687
0:44:19 --> 0:44:23
So so they created the insurrection, which wasn't an

688
0:44:23 --> 0:44:28
insurrection to hinder Trump from claiming voter fraud. Is

689
0:44:28 --> 0:44:31
that a fair characterization?

690
0:44:32 --> 0:44:36
Yeah, yeah, I think that would be by thought process. That's all

691
0:44:36 --> 0:44:38
I could ever probably

692
0:44:38 --> 0:44:41
know was the whole exercise in your view, do you think that at

693
0:44:41 --> 0:44:45
least is it reasonable to conclude that the whole exercise

694
0:44:45 --> 0:44:48
the whole fraud, if you'd like, was to hide voter fraud?

695
0:44:53 --> 0:44:56
You know, it could have been because it disrupted the the

696
0:44:56 --> 0:45:00
counting and all that, you know, and then one of and then it

697
0:45:00 --> 0:45:03
shifted the news. So after that, no one talked about that anymore.

698
0:45:04 --> 0:45:08
It was all about Oh, so they shifted the the one thing I give

699
0:45:08 --> 0:45:11
them, Hollywood and all everybody, they're great at news

700
0:45:11 --> 0:45:14
media, they're great at shifting narratives really quick, you

701
0:45:14 --> 0:45:19
know, when the Epstein list comes out, oh, you know, another

702
0:45:19 --> 0:45:21
news, you know, whatever, you know, if it doesn't fit there,

703
0:45:21 --> 0:45:24
whatever they're trying to do when I mean, Nashville, we had

704
0:45:24 --> 0:45:28
the, the transvestite that went in and shot up a Christian

705
0:45:28 --> 0:45:32
school and they, oh, well, we're sorry, another news, you know,

706
0:45:32 --> 0:45:35
like, whereas at first they were jumped on it, because, oh, wait,

707
0:45:35 --> 0:45:38
the school shooting, this is great for gun control, whatever.

708
0:45:38 --> 0:45:41
Oh, wait, wait, wait, nevermind. It's not that it's not. It's

709
0:45:41 --> 0:45:44
from our side. Okay, nevermind. That's not news. So they're

710
0:45:44 --> 0:45:47
great at that. Like they've done that effectively in the last

711
0:45:47 --> 0:45:49
50 years. So,

712
0:45:50 --> 0:45:53
but so all the checks and balances, re voter fraud in the

713
0:45:53 --> 0:45:59
different states were kicked into Chuck touch because of the

714
0:45:59 --> 0:46:06
purported state of emergency, which the insurrection created,

715
0:46:06 --> 0:46:06
is that right?

716
0:46:07 --> 0:46:10
Yeah, pretty much it interrupted the the session and I mean,

717
0:46:10 --> 0:46:12
because they were still in there. That means they were still in

718
0:46:12 --> 0:46:15
session. And after that, who's ever, who's ever talked about

719
0:46:15 --> 0:46:18
that again? You know, like, oh, wait, what actually happened?

720
0:46:18 --> 0:46:21
Like everybody did y'all just, I mean, I don't know, did they go

721
0:46:21 --> 0:46:26
back and redo that? It was just like, okay, it's done now. Nobody

722
0:46:26 --> 0:46:27
cares anymore. Yeah.

723
0:46:28 --> 0:46:31
Well, yeah, because it was treason is clearly treason. And

724
0:46:31 --> 0:46:31
it was,

725
0:46:33 --> 0:46:37
I'm call it, they're not gonna treason themselves to a few

726
0:46:37 --> 0:46:40
weeks later, he's in power. He's definitely not going to treason

727
0:46:40 --> 0:46:40
himself.

728
0:46:40 --> 0:46:45
Sure. But the point about it is the people, the American people

729
0:46:45 --> 0:46:47
should realize it's treason. That's what I'm trying to say.

730
0:46:48 --> 0:46:54
Oh, yeah, they Yeah, they should. In fact, I was in recently in a

731
0:46:54 --> 0:47:00
in a the Middle East. And we were actually there for a sporting

732
0:47:00 --> 0:47:05
event. But the guy next to this sheet guy, and he was like, Oh,

733
0:47:05 --> 0:47:09
America, you know, I love that. He says I was, he goes, I loved

734
0:47:09 --> 0:47:12
I grew up on the movies, you know, and stuff and da da da. And

735
0:47:12 --> 0:47:16
then he goes, So I'm curious, is it, you know, Americans seem

736
0:47:16 --> 0:47:19
like, they're, you know, they're big, like, yeah, rah rah. He

737
0:47:19 --> 0:47:23
goes, Are they okay with how they're trying to internally

738
0:47:23 --> 0:47:27
collapse America so that it can resurrect under authoritarian

739
0:47:27 --> 0:47:31
global rule? And he said it so distinctly and so like, as if

740
0:47:31 --> 0:47:35
that, and I was like, you probably know more than 99% of

741
0:47:35 --> 0:47:38
Americans do. And he was just, it was just, it wasn't even a

742
0:47:38 --> 0:47:41
question. It was literally from their perspective, like, this is

743
0:47:41 --> 0:47:44
what's happening. Are you guys okay with it? And I was like,

744
0:47:44 --> 0:47:47
most part, Americans are okay with it, because they just don't

745
0:47:47 --> 0:47:48
care. They're, they're too.

746
0:47:49 --> 0:47:52
Because that's exactly what happened in the last four years.

747
0:47:53 --> 0:47:57
Absolutely. So COVID was a Trojan horse for totalitarianism.

748
0:47:58 --> 0:47:58
holiday.

749
0:47:59 --> 0:48:01
100% 100% Yeah.

750
0:48:02 --> 0:48:06
Just a couple of things. Mine is more of a comment. I know that

751
0:48:06 --> 0:48:11
he's going to have to go soon to catch a plane. I think that I

752
0:48:11 --> 0:48:16
see this on a world stage, not just in Washington, DC. And I

753
0:48:16 --> 0:48:19
think that this is something that since this is an

754
0:48:19 --> 0:48:23
international call, I think that we all need to be aware of this

755
0:48:23 --> 0:48:28
staging. Because I think that our world elitist are in the

756
0:48:28 --> 0:48:35
process of staging this in all over the world. And I do think

757
0:48:35 --> 0:48:41
that some of our so called conservative our our help groups

758
0:48:42 --> 0:48:46
actually might be even collecting data on us as we

759
0:48:46 --> 0:48:51
join those groups. And we have to be very much aware of that.

760
0:48:51 --> 0:48:58
And they use that. I know that I have a very dear friend who was

761
0:48:59 --> 0:49:05
in Washington, DC on that date. And it happens to be a she. And

762
0:49:05 --> 0:49:09
she had she was right there in front of Trump as he was giving

763
0:49:09 --> 0:49:15
his speech. And so she was going to go on up to the Capitol. And

764
0:49:15 --> 0:49:19
there happened to be an officer there in front of the podium

765
0:49:19 --> 0:49:26
where she was standing in front of Trump. And he just touched

766
0:49:26 --> 0:49:31
her arm and he said, Miss, he said, Where are you going? And

767
0:49:31 --> 0:49:34
she said, Well, I'm going up to the Capitol with some of my

768
0:49:34 --> 0:49:38
friends here. And she he said, Please don't do that. He said,

769
0:49:38 --> 0:49:44
Because later on today, there's going to be trouble up there. And

770
0:49:44 --> 0:49:49
you really don't want to be part of it. So that was a warning to

771
0:49:49 --> 0:49:55
her. And that should also give us pause knowing that there were

772
0:49:55 --> 0:50:03
some people within the law enforcement who certainly knew

773
0:50:04 --> 0:50:08
what was going to happen and what had been orchestrated. And

774
0:50:08 --> 0:50:12
I think that this is something that around the world that we

775
0:50:12 --> 0:50:19
really need to be cognizant of that this is something that

776
0:50:20 --> 0:50:24
certainly is orchestrated everywhere. So that was my only

777
0:50:24 --> 0:50:29
comment. And thank you for coming on. We really appreciate

778
0:50:29 --> 0:50:35
it. I think it helps validate. I know I those who are had been

779
0:50:35 --> 0:50:42
imprisoned and are being persecuted in justly. I know some

780
0:50:42 --> 0:50:47
of you may be aware of Catherine McKinney. She's working very,

781
0:50:48 --> 0:50:53
very diligently to try to get information out. And she's

782
0:50:53 --> 0:50:57
dealing one on one with some of these prisoners who are being

783
0:50:57 --> 0:51:03
held captive. And this certainly would be information that our

784
0:51:03 --> 0:51:08
mystery person certainly would maybe want to share with her

785
0:51:08 --> 0:51:12
particularly. So thank you for coming on. And thank you,

786
0:51:12 --> 0:51:15
Stephen. We really appreciate everything that you and Charles

787
0:51:15 --> 0:51:15
are doing.

788
0:51:15 --> 0:51:19
Can I just ask the guest one more question and that is, were

789
0:51:19 --> 0:51:24
there any other prominent eyewitnesses? Have there been any

790
0:51:24 --> 0:51:27
other prominent eyewitnesses who've spoken out? Or are you the

791
0:51:27 --> 0:51:30
first or are you amongst the first 10 say?

792
0:51:33 --> 0:51:36
I think a lot of people have most of them have just been, you

793
0:51:36 --> 0:51:42
know, they were kind of algorithm down, I guess, you

794
0:51:42 --> 0:51:45
know, like, usually any anything, there's tons of people

795
0:51:45 --> 0:51:49
as I saw, posting videos, wow, this is crazy. This is this. But

796
0:51:49 --> 0:51:53
most of them were, you know, eradicated, not not the people,

797
0:51:53 --> 0:51:57
but their content, or their stories. They just certain

798
0:51:58 --> 0:52:01
publications would not touch the subject unless it went with

799
0:52:01 --> 0:52:03
their narrative. So there's fewer and fewer places that'll

800
0:52:03 --> 0:52:04
even

801
0:52:04 --> 0:52:08
I understand. So I just wonder why you felt, you know,

802
0:52:08 --> 0:52:11
compelled, as many of us felt compelled to do something in the

803
0:52:11 --> 0:52:15
last four years, why you felt compelled to to tell us about

804
0:52:15 --> 0:52:18
this. We're so grateful to you that you did do it. But I just

805
0:52:18 --> 0:52:19
want to

806
0:52:19 --> 0:52:28
be, I mean, I'm a truth seeker kind of person, but the the I've

807
0:52:28 --> 0:52:32
done stuff that's ticked off dictators and other stuff in

808
0:52:32 --> 0:52:36
other countries. And but when you're in your own country, they

809
0:52:36 --> 0:52:38
know where you live. You know, so

810
0:52:38 --> 0:52:42
we've had death threats from all over the different presidents

811
0:52:42 --> 0:52:46
and other countries and stuff off of stuff that we've put out

812
0:52:46 --> 0:52:49
some of our some of the stuff we put out with our name on us to

813
0:52:49 --> 0:52:54
move it wasn't. But nonetheless, and some of us affected. So I

814
0:52:54 --> 0:52:58
know that truth does penetrate, but sometimes it's figuring out.

815
0:53:01 --> 0:53:05
You know, some people, like, since then have met other

816
0:53:06 --> 0:53:10
people who were there that like one of them was smart enough, he

817
0:53:10 --> 0:53:15
had a VPN on his phone. So they never, you know, he was doing

818
0:53:15 --> 0:53:18
videos the whole time inside, you know, so like, there's the

819
0:53:19 --> 0:53:22
but, but he was playing too. I didn't even know he was there

820
0:53:22 --> 0:53:25
until like, two years later, and I ran into him. He's like, Oh,

821
0:53:25 --> 0:53:30
by the way, you know, so I think people are starting to, you know,

822
0:53:30 --> 0:53:34
as these like tapes and and security footage and this and

823
0:53:34 --> 0:53:38
that they don't they don't fit through the narrative. So as

824
0:53:38 --> 0:53:41
people can view it themselves, starts to put people's question

825
0:53:41 --> 0:53:45
in their mind, well, maybe it wasn't quite and I think, you

826
0:53:45 --> 0:53:51
know, sorry, sorry, gone insane with these overhead box. But

827
0:53:52 --> 0:53:54
anyway, that's my that's

828
0:53:56 --> 0:53:59
how much fear is there about speaking about those events on

829
0:53:59 --> 0:54:02
that day? Or is the fear dissipating with time?

830
0:54:03 --> 0:54:06
Oh, yeah, I think it's dissipating with time. But but

831
0:54:06 --> 0:54:11
also, I think I'm just in an industry that like you will, you

832
0:54:11 --> 0:54:16
know, the were you just if you're public about something,

833
0:54:16 --> 0:54:22
like I was asked by PR person to go on and go on the news and

834
0:54:22 --> 0:54:25
say this right after but they were like, you're not, you know,

835
0:54:25 --> 0:54:30
it would have been but they, you know, it would probably, I'd

836
0:54:30 --> 0:54:32
probably be a homeless guy by now.

837
0:54:33 --> 0:54:35
If I wouldn't have been dead. But so

838
0:54:37 --> 0:54:40
you take your your best. So whereas I was like, hey, I'll

839
0:54:40 --> 0:54:42
provide you information, you know.

840
0:54:45 --> 0:54:47
What did you say? I didn't quite catch it. By by now. You said

841
0:54:47 --> 0:54:51
that I'd probably be something by now probably be a homeless guy

842
0:54:51 --> 0:54:55
by now with the industry that I work in.

843
0:54:58 --> 0:54:58
Yeah, yeah.

844
0:54:58 --> 0:54:59
Yeah.

845
0:54:59 --> 0:55:02
And so the thing is, I didn't feel it if I ever feel like

846
0:55:02 --> 0:55:05
it's something I'm supposed to do, I just do it. But I felt

847
0:55:05 --> 0:55:08
like I was supposed to be there. But I didn't exactly know why.

848
0:55:08 --> 0:55:15
And so and but I did, you know, I've given over footage to

849
0:55:15 --> 0:55:18
people who have put it into stuff and put it in through

850
0:55:18 --> 0:55:23
there. So in some ways, it helps reframe perspective, just from

851
0:55:23 --> 0:55:28
stuff that I know, because so it's more of a behind the scenes

852
0:55:28 --> 0:55:33
kind of thing. But but then it is a project, so to speak. But

853
0:55:34 --> 0:55:38
most of these a lot of these documentaries, they're people

854
0:55:38 --> 0:55:44
are so divided now, like, we put out some of this true and, and

855
0:55:44 --> 0:55:48
you know, the mainstream just says, Oh, it's conspiracy theory

856
0:55:48 --> 0:55:51
and no one even, you know, like, but there's a growing audience

857
0:55:51 --> 0:55:55
of people who are figuring out that everything that you're

858
0:55:55 --> 0:56:00
showed is not real, you know. So, so there's, there's

859
0:56:00 --> 0:56:04
definitely both sides that I think a lot of people and we

860
0:56:04 --> 0:56:08
don't know how much but I think that's why they fear, you know,

861
0:56:08 --> 0:56:11
people that people that have truth, they don't fear debates

862
0:56:11 --> 0:56:15
because they know they can win a debate. But people that that

863
0:56:15 --> 0:56:19
know they can't win a debate, they want to make sure that

864
0:56:19 --> 0:56:22
their debate doesn't exist or that the debate is eliminated

865
0:56:22 --> 0:56:27
before it happens. And so, yeah, yeah, so I guess you pick

866
0:56:27 --> 0:56:28
your thoughts. I don't know.

867
0:56:31 --> 0:56:34
Well, thank you so much for coming on. It's really good of

868
0:56:34 --> 0:56:38
you to do it. And also on behalf of your country as well. We need

869
0:56:38 --> 0:56:40
more people like you. Thank you.

870
0:56:41 --> 0:56:44
So before thank you. When is your plane leaving? Because

871
0:56:44 --> 0:56:47
Marv's got his hand up. There's one more question, perhaps if

872
0:56:47 --> 0:56:49
you've got time before you have to get on your plane.

873
0:56:50 --> 0:56:53
Yeah, yeah. I know there's probably people sitting around me

874
0:56:53 --> 0:56:55
looking at like, this guy's crazy. One of them is looking at

875
0:56:55 --> 0:56:56
me right now.

876
0:56:59 --> 0:57:03
But yeah, we're all about to we're about to board but I'm okay.

877
0:57:03 --> 0:57:03
Go ahead.

878
0:57:03 --> 0:57:03
So

879
0:57:04 --> 0:57:06
we're all crazy too. So it doesn't matter.

880
0:57:08 --> 0:57:14
Hey, would you would you describe those the the f Trump

881
0:57:14 --> 0:57:18
guys you met really in the morning their age their dress

882
0:57:18 --> 0:57:24
their their body or hair. What are those guys?

883
0:57:25 --> 0:57:29
They look very one of them now I saw tons of different people

884
0:57:29 --> 0:57:34
that were like, why are you in this line? You know, like, but

885
0:57:34 --> 0:57:39
the guys that were some of them were like 40 middle age kind of

886
0:57:39 --> 0:57:43
the ones that were making signs and stuff. The one guy was

887
0:57:43 --> 0:57:46
older probably 60s pretty scraggly look like maybe, you

888
0:57:46 --> 0:57:50
know, like a meth dude or something, because he was hit

889
0:57:50 --> 0:57:55
both of his sons are really scraggly and like, you know,

890
0:57:55 --> 0:58:01
just very, you know, not thug, but I guess you'd call just

891
0:58:01 --> 0:58:06
white trash sort of looking dudes and so and then but you

892
0:58:06 --> 0:58:09
know, they had money to go buy a couple hundred dollars worth of

893
0:58:09 --> 0:58:14
swag. So some, you know, they and they're in but then other

894
0:58:14 --> 0:58:16
people they were built and they were making signs I mean, does

895
0:58:16 --> 0:58:21
100 you know, 100 signs on the ground. Thank you. So in early

896
0:58:21 --> 0:58:23
in the morning, he wouldn't sell on them. But then people would

897
0:58:23 --> 0:58:26
walk by. And then these and so I was like, but nobody needed

898
0:58:26 --> 0:58:29
signs like, you know, like, so it was almost like they were

899
0:58:29 --> 0:58:31
going, like, I got to make myself you know, it's like, if

900
0:58:31 --> 0:58:35
you're going to a Santa Claus convention, you better dress up

901
0:58:35 --> 0:58:39
like Santa Claus, or you're gonna stand out. You know, so it

902
0:58:39 --> 0:58:42
was like, it was kind of like over the top a little bit. But

903
0:58:42 --> 0:58:45
that's, you know, I don't know, there was a lot of chaos that

904
0:58:45 --> 0:58:47
night before we came in late at night, one, two in the morning,

905
0:58:47 --> 0:58:52
so we drove in for a dozen hours. And, and there were

906
0:58:52 --> 0:58:56
people busloads of people unloading these, I don't know

907
0:58:56 --> 0:59:00
who they were, they were all pretty rough looking characters.

908
0:59:00 --> 0:59:03
But just like busloads of people unloading people one o'clock,

909
0:59:03 --> 0:59:07
two o'clock in the morning down DC, you know, and so, because we

910
0:59:07 --> 0:59:10
drove around when we first got into town. And so, you know, so

911
0:59:10 --> 0:59:13
we just thought as no good going on, but you know, you can't I

912
0:59:13 --> 0:59:17
don't, I can't necessarily say who or what or why or where they

913
0:59:17 --> 0:59:21
were going to they just dropped them off in the streets. So they

914
0:59:21 --> 0:59:23
weren't there to stay in a hotel, I can tell you that.

915
0:59:28 --> 0:59:32
So when you say rough looking characters, you mean they were

916
0:59:32 --> 0:59:37
like, how would you describe were they like, motorcycle

917
0:59:37 --> 0:59:40
bikers or military looking guys?

918
0:59:41 --> 0:59:44
Now, I would probably say they were the expendables, you know,

919
0:59:44 --> 0:59:50
like the, you know, like the, the like, kingpins don't go run

920
0:59:50 --> 0:59:54
drugs, they hire little street kids to do it. And so that's what

921
0:59:54 --> 0:59:57
I think these guys were, you know, they were people that if

922
0:59:57 --> 1:00:01
they got pence, no big deal. It's just somebody with a record.

923
1:00:01 --> 1:00:05
And no one would listen to them anyway. And so that's, that's who

924
1:00:05 --> 1:00:08
I think the trouble makers were they weren't they weren't it to

925
1:00:08 --> 1:00:12
me, the ones I saw didn't look like ex military or anything like

926
1:00:12 --> 1:00:15
that. Now, I believe those are the ones who probably blended in

927
1:00:15 --> 1:00:19
better. You know, there's no one would know. But they look like

928
1:00:19 --> 1:00:23
criminals. They look like hired criminals. Yeah, like criminals.

929
1:00:23 --> 1:00:26
Yeah. Just like a bunch of criminals. And you know, I don't

930
1:00:26 --> 1:00:30
know, maybe somebody gave him 500 bucks and said, here, go

931
1:00:30 --> 1:00:34
stall for trouble. You know, like, I don't know. But that's,

932
1:00:34 --> 1:00:37
that's on a surface level. That's what appeared to be it

933
1:00:37 --> 1:00:41
but it was probably people that would lead to nowhere. Somebody

934
1:00:41 --> 1:00:44
got caught. But then again, if you're if you don't have to

935
1:00:44 --> 1:00:47
worry about cops, getting you, you don't have much to worry

936
1:00:47 --> 1:00:51
about. Do you? You know, like, if you're on the list, you know,

937
1:00:51 --> 1:00:55
somewhere, so but I think it's I think it was just expendable.

938
1:00:55 --> 1:00:58
So that's all people that they didn't care. They just knew it

939
1:00:58 --> 1:01:02
like, Oh, yeah, sure. I'll do something crazy for for some

940
1:01:02 --> 1:01:04
money to buy some drugs. Yeah.

941
1:01:07 --> 1:01:12
All right. Thank you, Bob. Okay, wonderful guests. Thank you so

942
1:01:12 --> 1:01:15
much. Happy trails. Thank you for being with us. Thank you in

943
1:01:15 --> 1:01:18
these difficult in these challenging circumstances. You

944
1:01:18 --> 1:01:18
did very well.

945
1:01:20 --> 1:01:22
Thank you. I appreciate you guys.

946
1:01:23 --> 1:01:25
Carla Dean for organizing.

947
1:01:25 --> 1:01:29
Where are you going in Brazil? Oh, sorry. No, you don't need to

948
1:01:29 --> 1:01:33
tell me. Oh, yeah, I travel everywhere. But yeah, so I

949
1:01:33 --> 1:01:37
travel all over the world all the time. So nobody could ever

950
1:01:37 --> 1:01:38
attract me. I don't think so.

951
1:01:40 --> 1:01:42
Which is your favorite country? Can you tell us that or not?

952
1:01:44 --> 1:01:46
I love America. But yeah, actually, the UK is one of my

953
1:01:46 --> 1:01:52
favorite places to visit. And then but as far as if you were

954
1:01:52 --> 1:01:54
going to stay there a while but I love I don't know I just

955
1:01:54 --> 1:01:57
everywhere I feel I feel like I'm at home. So I don't really

956
1:01:57 --> 1:02:01
have a favorite. I just love people and love travel and

957
1:02:01 --> 1:02:05
cultures and all that kind of stuff. So right. Thank you can

958
1:02:05 --> 1:02:09
learn something from everybody. Exactly. Yes. Thank you so much.

959
1:02:10 --> 1:02:12
All right. Thank you. Have a shot. Happy trials.

960
1:02:14 --> 1:02:16
Thank you. Take care. Thank you.

961
1:02:17 --> 1:02:19
Charles I don't know is some

962
1:02:20 --> 1:02:23
danger is not yet. And just not here. But Jim's got his hand up.

963
1:02:24 --> 1:02:26
I've been watching I've been watching for Andrew Bridgen. So

964
1:02:26 --> 1:02:27
hopefully.

965
1:02:28 --> 1:02:29
Thank you.

966
1:02:29 --> 1:02:32
I was just gonna ask him if he's still on Did he did he go which

967
1:02:32 --> 1:02:35
country is safe for which country? Some people rumor that

968
1:02:35 --> 1:02:39
United States may not be safe in the after 2027 or something like

969
1:02:39 --> 1:02:41
that. Which countries will be safe as he's if he's a world

970
1:02:41 --> 1:02:44
traveler? He's gone. He's gone.

971
1:02:46 --> 1:02:49
If you email me I can pass it to you and we can ask him like that.

972
1:02:50 --> 1:02:51
I can ask Carlidine this one.

973
1:02:51 --> 1:02:58
So any thoughts on what we've learned from that eyewitness

974
1:02:58 --> 1:03:01
account of what happened on J six Peter.

975
1:03:04 --> 1:03:08
Sorry Charles I was muted. Yeah, I just wanted to answer that

976
1:03:08 --> 1:03:09
earlier question.

977
1:03:11 --> 1:03:15
If he's looking for somewhere safe, I can tell you South

978
1:03:15 --> 1:03:17
Africa is definitely safe.

979
1:03:17 --> 1:03:20
Irrespective of all the rumors that it's a war zone and what

980
1:03:20 --> 1:03:25
have you. So welcome to South Africa, my friend you're 34

981
1:03:25 --> 1:03:32
degrees south. And I'll ask everybody. Can you guess what

982
1:03:32 --> 1:03:37
percentage of the world population live south in in the

983
1:03:37 --> 1:03:39
southern hemisphere?

984
1:03:39 --> 1:03:42
It's about 10% in a very small

985
1:03:42 --> 1:03:46
That's very close. Actually, Steve. Well done. You're the

986
1:03:46 --> 1:03:50
only person I've asked that question to that's got as near

987
1:03:50 --> 1:03:52
to it. It's actually 9%.

988
1:03:53 --> 1:03:56
There we go. Yeah. So as 1% out.

989
1:03:58 --> 1:03:59
You did very well, Steve.

990
1:03:59 --> 1:04:02
If you look at the map, you know, I've got a map in my head

991
1:04:02 --> 1:04:07
so that I can see that most of the landmasses are above north

992
1:04:07 --> 1:04:08
of the equator.

993
1:04:08 --> 1:04:11
And I can see that most of the landmasses are above north of

994
1:04:11 --> 1:04:17
the equator. Yeah. And with the southern hemisphere is ocean.

995
1:04:17 --> 1:04:21
Is water. Yeah. That's where I feel safe on a boat.

996
1:04:22 --> 1:04:25
Yeah. And you're South America and you're Australia and that

997
1:04:25 --> 1:04:29
and okay, maybe Indonesia, you know, but but big population in

998
1:04:29 --> 1:04:33
Indonesia. Well, Australia has got a very big, but South

999
1:04:33 --> 1:04:37
America hasn't got a massive population either. So it's not

1000
1:04:37 --> 1:04:42
surprising. It's only 9%. But also, some so people live in

1001
1:04:42 --> 1:04:46
Stockholm, in Oslo, Norway, you know, and then Helsinki, they're

1002
1:04:46 --> 1:04:50
all at 60 degrees north. And then you've got Petersburg also

1003
1:04:50 --> 1:04:54
at 60 degrees north and Moscow a little bit further south. But

1004
1:04:54 --> 1:04:57
you try living in the southern hemisphere at that kind of

1005
1:04:57 --> 1:05:00
latitude at 60 degrees south. There isn't anything there.

1006
1:05:03 --> 1:05:06
That's absolutely nothing go south Georgia, but that's not

1007
1:05:06 --> 1:05:07
even 60. I don't think.

1008
1:05:08 --> 1:05:09
Elven Island, of course.

1009
1:05:09 --> 1:05:10
Yeah.

1010
1:05:11 --> 1:05:17
So it's really strange how human beings have chosen to live so

1011
1:05:17 --> 1:05:22
far north in the northern hemisphere, but then ignored.

1012
1:05:22 --> 1:05:25
Well, okay, there's not as much landmass, but even so, yeah.

1013
1:05:26 --> 1:05:29
And so that's my point really is that I think the globalist

1014
1:05:29 --> 1:05:31
probably won't notice as much.

1015
1:05:33 --> 1:05:33
Yeah.

1016
1:05:34 --> 1:05:40
One more question. Yes, one more question about Africa. You know

1017
1:05:40 --> 1:05:45
how many invaders or immigrants are being brought into the

1018
1:05:45 --> 1:05:50
Five Eyes countries like Canada, United States, Australia, New

1019
1:05:50 --> 1:05:56
Zealand, are there a lot of invaders being brought in to

1020
1:05:56 --> 1:05:57
South Africa?

1021
1:05:58 --> 1:06:03
No, I can answer that. Certainly not. We've got some lovely

1022
1:06:04 --> 1:06:09
immigrants from DRC, and they speak French. I see them very

1023
1:06:09 --> 1:06:14
often at their car guards and they do a lot of security work.

1024
1:06:14 --> 1:06:17
They're absolutely lovely and I can speak to them in French.

1025
1:06:17 --> 1:06:21
Then we've got some very well educated and very bright

1026
1:06:21 --> 1:06:28
Zimbabweans. We've got people from Cameroon. But actually the

1027
1:06:28 --> 1:06:33
immigrants mainly are from Africa. There's very few

1028
1:06:35 --> 1:06:40
Europeans. I see the occasional American but not many and no

1029
1:06:40 --> 1:06:46
Canadians, no Japanese, a few Chinese on occasion. But

1030
1:06:46 --> 1:06:51
generally speaking, it's very much African orientated here.

1031
1:06:52 --> 1:06:58
We have this concept of Ubuntu, which is paraphrasing is

1032
1:06:58 --> 1:07:03
basically I cannot be rich if my neighbor is poor. They've got

1033
1:07:03 --> 1:07:09
this wonderful family, very well centered family orientation,

1034
1:07:09 --> 1:07:13
which gives people in South Africa or indeed Africa, I

1035
1:07:13 --> 1:07:17
think generally, a very, very strong constitution, a family

1036
1:07:17 --> 1:07:22
constitution. We have Muslims, we have a whole range of just

1037
1:07:22 --> 1:07:25
about everybody, Indians, Pakistanis, we've got some very

1038
1:07:25 --> 1:07:29
good Pakistani friends and we all get on together and there's

1039
1:07:29 --> 1:07:33
not an indication of any racism, whatever that I've seen.

1040
1:07:34 --> 1:07:38
Peter, what's the dominant religious practice in South

1041
1:07:38 --> 1:07:39
Africa?

1042
1:07:40 --> 1:07:49
Well, the dominant one is Christian. We have the Roman

1043
1:07:50 --> 1:07:57
Dutch Church, which is very strong, very prostitutes. And we

1044
1:07:57 --> 1:08:01
have a lot of Muslims who a lot of my friends when I go and see

1045
1:08:01 --> 1:08:05
them at sort of midday, they're off to the mosque and one

1046
1:08:05 --> 1:08:09
having a laugh, a joke about that. But generally, the

1047
1:08:09 --> 1:08:12
dominant one I'd say is Roman Dutch.

1048
1:08:14 --> 1:08:18
Are the borders open to other countries? Can you just walk in

1049
1:08:18 --> 1:08:21
and assume citizenship and get free housing like they do in the

1050
1:08:21 --> 1:08:25
United States now where they're being housed and free health

1051
1:08:25 --> 1:08:25
care?

1052
1:08:27 --> 1:08:33
Well, I wouldn't say free housing. We've got a lot of what

1053
1:08:33 --> 1:08:39
we call townships. The thing about our economy here is that we

1054
1:08:39 --> 1:08:44
have a 35% unemployment. I think actually it's about 50%

1055
1:08:44 --> 1:08:47
unemployment in the young people. That's official

1056
1:08:47 --> 1:08:51
unemployment. The fact is because we don't have a welfare

1057
1:08:51 --> 1:08:57
state to speak of, everybody is economically active. Because if

1058
1:08:57 --> 1:09:02
you're not economically active, you don't eat. And that

1059
1:09:02 --> 1:09:10
energizes people to be innovative, productive, but under

1060
1:09:10 --> 1:09:14
the radar. So the government can't tax them. So we've got a

1061
1:09:14 --> 1:09:21
60 million population and 7 million taxpayers, 50% of which

1062
1:09:21 --> 1:09:27
are white and 50% of which are the middle class, rising blacks

1063
1:09:27 --> 1:09:29
after 25 years.

1064
1:09:29 --> 1:09:33
So you don't have a system where you can actually get are

1065
1:09:33 --> 1:09:37
imported by the Secretary of State, and then get free

1066
1:09:37 --> 1:09:41
housing like in New York City and then get $2,000 a month and

1067
1:09:41 --> 1:09:44
get to walk into the stores and take anything you want for

1068
1:09:44 --> 1:09:46
without being charged with crimes. You don't have that

1069
1:09:46 --> 1:09:47
there in South Africa.

1070
1:09:48 --> 1:09:54
There's absolutely nothing here. There is a thing called, what's

1071
1:09:54 --> 1:09:59
that? It's called a government grant. That if you are desolate

1072
1:09:59 --> 1:10:04
or what have you can claim a government grant, which is the

1073
1:10:04 --> 1:10:12
350 South African rands a month, which is divided by 20. So it's

1074
1:10:12 --> 1:10:15
around about $17 a month.

1075
1:10:17 --> 1:10:18
A day $17 a day.

1076
1:10:19 --> 1:10:20
No a month.

1077
1:10:21 --> 1:10:25
Oh, $17 a month. So that's something happened. Something

1078
1:10:25 --> 1:10:28
ran. So it's 300 and something a day. A year.

1079
1:10:29 --> 1:10:29
Yeah.

1080
1:10:29 --> 1:10:32
That's much less than the people who get are coming into the United

1081
1:10:32 --> 1:10:35
States. Okay. And then what about health care? What about

1082
1:10:35 --> 1:10:38
health care? Do you get you go to the hospital and then you get

1083
1:10:38 --> 1:10:39
free health care or

1084
1:10:39 --> 1:10:44
there is a there is a state health care system, which does

1085
1:10:44 --> 1:10:48
actually provide quite good services for the indigenous

1086
1:10:48 --> 1:10:53
people. Most people have my ilk, for example, will go private

1087
1:10:53 --> 1:10:57
anyway, but we don't pay insurance for the people who are

1088
1:10:57 --> 1:11:00
in the United States. So I don't pay insurance anyway. But

1089
1:11:00 --> 1:11:04
we don't pay insurance because that's just a joke. Because you

1090
1:11:04 --> 1:11:09
have to pay so much money. So my best insurance policy is an air

1091
1:11:09 --> 1:11:10
ticket to UK.

1092
1:11:13 --> 1:11:17
I see. And is the medications as expensive here? Like for

1093
1:11:17 --> 1:11:21
instance, in the United States, insulin can cost $800 for a

1094
1:11:21 --> 1:11:22
vial that was $2.

1095
1:11:22 --> 1:11:27
No, I saw the doctor the other day and that cost me six that

1096
1:11:27 --> 1:11:34
was a half an hour session, very good guy. And that cost me 650

1097
1:11:34 --> 1:11:36
Rand, which is about $30.

1098
1:11:39 --> 1:11:42
Okay, and then how is it and one more question, I'm sorry to

1099
1:11:42 --> 1:11:45
monopolize, but this is very good information. How is

1100
1:11:45 --> 1:11:50
Namibia? We in the United States are importing hundreds of tons

1101
1:11:50 --> 1:11:54
of beef from Namibia, Africa into Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

1102
1:11:54 --> 1:11:59
And it is and you can sell boxed beef from Namibia, Africa into

1103
1:11:59 --> 1:12:03
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, but you cannot move boxed beef from

1104
1:12:03 --> 1:12:07
that's frozen beef in a box from, let's say, Texas to

1105
1:12:07 --> 1:12:08
Philadelphia.

1106
1:12:10 --> 1:12:15
Yeah, understood. There's tremendous growth here in not

1107
1:12:15 --> 1:12:19
only South Africa, but you're right about Namibia. Mind you,

1108
1:12:19 --> 1:12:23
that's a lot of desert to there. But they're very, very good at

1109
1:12:24 --> 1:12:32
let's say agriculture in desert type conditions. And we in South

1110
1:12:32 --> 1:12:36
Africa, for example, is self sufficient and more in its own

1111
1:12:36 --> 1:12:44
food. Where I live in the Cape, Western Cape, all our food is

1112
1:12:44 --> 1:12:50
provided by the sea, we've got the sea is teeming with fish, I

1113
1:12:50 --> 1:12:57
can buy a massive tuna, for example, a bluefin tuna, a steak

1114
1:12:57 --> 1:13:07
for 60 Rand, which is something like $3, maybe. You know, it's an

1115
1:13:07 --> 1:13:12
amazing place. I keep I write letters every week. And I

1116
1:13:12 --> 1:13:16
publish them on Substack. And I try to tell people, and

1117
1:13:16 --> 1:13:19
particularly my Brit friends to get the hell out of there, come

1118
1:13:19 --> 1:13:25
south. Because I discovered South Africa, I discovered

1119
1:13:25 --> 1:13:29
Simon's Town, for example, force by Yacht Club in 1999, when I

1120
1:13:29 --> 1:13:35
sailed here, because I was looking for paradise. And I was

1121
1:13:35 --> 1:13:39
going to Mauritius originally, but I discovered that Simon's

1122
1:13:39 --> 1:13:44
Town is a bubble of paradise. And we call it millionaires row

1123
1:13:44 --> 1:13:46
without the millions.

1124
1:13:49 --> 1:13:50
That is beautiful.

1125
1:13:50 --> 1:13:52
Wow, sounds fabulous.

1126
1:13:52 --> 1:13:57
Yeah. Everybody go to join Peter. Thank you, Jim. Great

1127
1:13:57 --> 1:14:02
questions. Glen got Glen has his hand up. We're off to South

1128
1:14:02 --> 1:14:02
Africa.

1129
1:14:04 --> 1:14:09
Yeah, I have a question for you, Peter. Okay. So there's been a

1130
1:14:09 --> 1:14:15
lot of university activity relative to Palestinian actions.

1131
1:14:16 --> 1:14:19
I was curious to what degree that penetrated South Africa.

1132
1:14:20 --> 1:14:24
Well, that's an interesting question. Because in our bubble

1133
1:14:24 --> 1:14:28
here, we really don't take too much notice of what's going on

1134
1:14:28 --> 1:14:32
in the north. Although you might note that South Africa was the

1135
1:14:32 --> 1:14:41
leading country that took Israel to the International Court,

1136
1:14:41 --> 1:14:46
didn't he? The criminal court. And we got a result, but it

1137
1:14:46 --> 1:14:51
wasn't really what I'd expected. But that came from our

1138
1:14:51 --> 1:14:58
background, which was initially the resistance to the apartheid

1139
1:14:58 --> 1:15:03
regime, of course, but magnificently Mandela's solution,

1140
1:15:03 --> 1:15:10
which was peace, or the reconciliation committee that or

1141
1:15:10 --> 1:15:15
commission that was set up after apartheid. So we have within our

1142
1:15:15 --> 1:15:19
constitution is a very, very strong constitution written

1143
1:15:19 --> 1:15:25
constitution, unlike Britain. And it's very strong. And we take

1144
1:15:25 --> 1:15:30
part of the global south, we're part of the BRICS. There's a lot

1145
1:15:30 --> 1:15:34
of interest from China here, and a lot of investment, actually,

1146
1:15:35 --> 1:15:41
and from Russia. And we, we take the alternative view to the

1147
1:15:41 --> 1:15:46
north, that whatever's going on up there, it does tend to be a

1148
1:15:46 --> 1:15:48
bit remote as far as we're concerned.

1149
1:15:51 --> 1:15:55
Okay, part of the reason I bring it up is I graduated from

1150
1:15:55 --> 1:15:59
college in 1974. And at that point, I can tell you there was

1151
1:15:59 --> 1:16:03
no significant Palestinian presence in any of the colleges

1152
1:16:04 --> 1:16:10
US wide, that that all evolved shortly after that, that 7475,

1153
1:16:10 --> 1:16:14
we had the oil crisis. And with that, you had the giant ramp up

1154
1:16:14 --> 1:16:19
of prices that suddenly flowed into all of the OPEC countries.

1155
1:16:19 --> 1:16:23
And at that point, Qatar became the centerpiece of gathering

1156
1:16:24 --> 1:16:27
those billions of dollars and funneling them into the

1157
1:16:27 --> 1:16:31
university system in in the United States. I have a good

1158
1:16:31 --> 1:16:38
friend who went to college in the middle 80s, from 82 to 8086.

1159
1:16:38 --> 1:16:41
And he said they were all everywhere. Yeah, you know,

1160
1:16:41 --> 1:16:45
establishing support groups, making clubs, funding

1161
1:16:45 --> 1:16:49
departments, that there was just mountains of money coming in to

1162
1:16:49 --> 1:16:53
set that system up to basically endorse this theme of

1163
1:16:53 --> 1:16:57
Palestinians, and to a large extent to plant the seeds of the

1164
1:16:57 --> 1:17:02
anti semitism that we are now seeing today in massive scale.

1165
1:17:03 --> 1:17:09
And I mean, I can remember in 1970, with the Ohio State

1166
1:17:09 --> 1:17:14
shootings. So I was in high school, my sister was in

1167
1:17:14 --> 1:17:18
college, and you know, never had any finals. They all got

1168
1:17:19 --> 1:17:23
canceled in in late April and May. And you never even had

1169
1:17:24 --> 1:17:27
things going on. We're seeing that same thing right now. It

1170
1:17:27 --> 1:17:30
looks like a whole bunch of colleges are canceling their

1171
1:17:30 --> 1:17:35
live classes, they may cancel final exams. Yes, it's crazy how

1172
1:17:35 --> 1:17:38
these things repeat many years after, but but have the same

1173
1:17:38 --> 1:17:39
source.

1174
1:17:39 --> 1:17:43
It is indeed it's a cycle actually, as I see it. And I

1175
1:17:43 --> 1:17:49
write about this quite often, actually. I see this as a cycle

1176
1:17:49 --> 1:17:53
of history. In fact, there is some indication that we go

1177
1:17:53 --> 1:17:58
through these cycles on a regular basis, about 14,000 years

1178
1:17:58 --> 1:18:04
cycle, we're certainly in a 250 year cycle end of one empire

1179
1:18:04 --> 1:18:10
rising of the other, which is East Asia, China. And it also

1180
1:18:11 --> 1:18:16
combines with the Strauss and how and the fourth turning, which

1181
1:18:16 --> 1:18:21
is the generational cycle of 80 years. So we've got a

1182
1:18:21 --> 1:18:25
combination of the two cycles, I think, Martin Armstrong writes

1183
1:18:25 --> 1:18:29
a lot about this with Socrates that he's got. And he's very

1184
1:18:29 --> 1:18:34
predictive in those circumstances. So I'd refer you

1185
1:18:34 --> 1:18:38
to you, you're right about the 70s. But I have a little thing

1186
1:18:38 --> 1:18:42
I can put up on on the chat called what the fuck happened in

1187
1:18:42 --> 1:18:49
1971. And there's a whole series of graphs, which shows something

1188
1:18:49 --> 1:18:54
significant happened in 1971, which of course, Nixon took,

1189
1:18:54 --> 1:18:58
but in effect, America defaulted on the gold standard in effect.

1190
1:18:59 --> 1:19:04
And when you see the charts, a whole series of charts in in the

1191
1:19:04 --> 1:19:09
article, I'll put up, you'll see how things moved since then,

1192
1:19:10 --> 1:19:14
we're going through this cycle, it's going to be a rough ride, I

1193
1:19:14 --> 1:19:17
think in the next couple of years, but I'm very hopeful. And

1194
1:19:17 --> 1:19:21
I believe that something very good is going to come out of

1195
1:19:21 --> 1:19:21
this.

1196
1:19:24 --> 1:19:25
Thank you.

1197
1:19:26 --> 1:19:33
Well, can you expound on the time frame in terms of 2025 2627?

1198
1:19:34 --> 1:19:42
Okay. Timing is always so difficult to predict, because

1199
1:19:42 --> 1:19:46
it's not in our hands. The powers that be are pulling the

1200
1:19:46 --> 1:19:52
levers, and they will decide when the time is right, as we

1201
1:19:52 --> 1:19:57
saw with COVID, for example, and a lot of other examples prior to

1202
1:19:57 --> 1:20:03
that. My guess is, and I've written in my book, actually, I

1203
1:20:03 --> 1:20:08
wrote a book, it's on research gate, the financial jigsaw, part

1204
1:20:08 --> 1:20:12
one, I'm now serializing part two, part one is about the

1205
1:20:12 --> 1:20:18
global financial system. And chapter 13 describes what I see

1206
1:20:18 --> 1:20:23
as the as the coming depression, economic depression is kind of

1207
1:20:23 --> 1:20:30
a repeat of the 1930s. And my guess is before certainly before

1208
1:20:30 --> 1:20:39
2030, I would say my feeling is within the next 24 months, maybe

1209
1:20:39 --> 1:20:49
three years at the most, I was caught out in 2008. Because I

1210
1:20:49 --> 1:20:54
expected something to happen pretty quickly after that. But

1211
1:20:54 --> 1:20:59
actually, of course, they use QE, which stonewalled everything

1212
1:20:59 --> 1:21:03
for the next 10 years. But we've now run out of those options, in

1213
1:21:03 --> 1:21:08
my view. But you could always put some links up into chat

1214
1:21:08 --> 1:21:12
anyway, if you want to read chapter 13 of my book.

1215
1:21:15 --> 1:21:19
Thank you. And is there any and, and that's the real question

1216
1:21:19 --> 1:21:22
about getting out of the countries that are set to fall?

1217
1:21:22 --> 1:21:27
Yes, with, you know, United States, it looks like it's going

1218
1:21:27 --> 1:21:32
to be parceled out divided up and crushed into nothing new

1219
1:21:32 --> 1:21:36
Babylon is falling. The ships will turn away and all that

1220
1:21:36 --> 1:21:41
Bible stuff. Yeah. And that maybe goes for the six eyes

1221
1:21:42 --> 1:21:47
countries, five eyes countries as well. But the issue is now

1222
1:21:47 --> 1:21:51
where where to go and will our land in these other countries will

1223
1:21:51 --> 1:21:55
the land in these five eyes countries that are being swamped

1224
1:21:55 --> 1:22:00
by immigrants and or illegal invaders, I should say, financed

1225
1:22:00 --> 1:22:05
by our State Department and bankrupted, and all our money is

1226
1:22:05 --> 1:22:07
just pouring out of the United States into the Ukraine and

1227
1:22:07 --> 1:22:12
Israel right now. Billions of dollars. I mean, while we open

1228
1:22:12 --> 1:22:16
our own borders, we protect it, we protect other borders, makes

1229
1:22:16 --> 1:22:23
no sense. Where, where do we protect ourselves as these

1230
1:22:24 --> 1:22:28
people are taking over our legislative branches, and just

1231
1:22:28 --> 1:22:32
parceling out our money? Yeah, I don't know what we do and what do

1232
1:22:32 --> 1:22:36
we and how do we and how do we protect even our land, it's

1233
1:22:36 --> 1:22:37
going to be taxed to hell.

1234
1:22:37 --> 1:22:42
There's several good writers, Doug Casey at International Man

1235
1:22:43 --> 1:22:48
is very good on this subject. And there's several others as

1236
1:22:48 --> 1:22:54
well. And certainly, if I were in the States, now I will be

1237
1:22:54 --> 1:22:58
moving out, I'd make sure I've got a dual passport, I wouldn't

1238
1:22:58 --> 1:23:01
give up my American passport, but I would get a dual passport.

1239
1:23:03 --> 1:23:09
I've got dual residents here in South Africa and UK. Not that I

1240
1:23:09 --> 1:23:15
ever think of going back to UK again. I've told the world to

1241
1:23:15 --> 1:23:22
find paradise. I looked at Belize and Zanzibar is somewhere

1242
1:23:22 --> 1:23:29
worth looking at. And certainly, I chose Mauritius as a first

1243
1:23:29 --> 1:23:33
stop, but never got there because I found it here in

1244
1:23:33 --> 1:23:42
San Francisco. But I would say, go south. My dear father always

1245
1:23:42 --> 1:23:50
said, go south son, like the other one said, go west. But I'd

1246
1:23:50 --> 1:23:53
certainly get out in the north without a doubt. I don't think

1247
1:23:53 --> 1:23:58
there's going to be a kinetic explosion, nuclear war, whatever,

1248
1:23:58 --> 1:24:02
as such, because the globalists and the billionaires are not

1249
1:24:02 --> 1:24:08
going to give up their wealth and their lifestyle. But there's

1250
1:24:08 --> 1:24:11
going to be a lot of chaos, I think it's going to be

1251
1:24:11 --> 1:24:15
depression, economic depression. We're already much poorer now

1252
1:24:15 --> 1:24:21
than we were 20 years ago. And also, these places are

1253
1:24:21 --> 1:24:26
enterprising, they're rising. South Africa is rising. There's a

1254
1:24:26 --> 1:24:33
lot of productivity, there's a lot of enterprise. So certainly

1255
1:24:33 --> 1:24:38
South Sub-Saharan Africa, always worth looking at. Someone

1256
1:24:38 --> 1:24:43
mentioned Namibia, very good. Botswana is one of 14 countries

1257
1:24:43 --> 1:24:48
that doesn't have an armed police force, which always gives me a

1258
1:24:48 --> 1:24:55
nice comfortable fit. So yeah, and certainly a lot of people

1259
1:24:55 --> 1:25:00
looking up South America, Argentina, well, it's in a state

1260
1:25:00 --> 1:25:02
of flux at the moment. No one knows really where that's going

1261
1:25:02 --> 1:25:03
with that.

1262
1:25:03 --> 1:25:08
Peter, Peter, Peter, Anders put the comment in about India is

1263
1:25:08 --> 1:25:14
his assessment of over the next 20 years of a place to go to.

1264
1:25:15 --> 1:25:18
Well, I wouldn't disagree with that. I know nothing about

1265
1:25:18 --> 1:25:22
India. I haven't been to India. But certainly there's a lot of

1266
1:25:22 --> 1:25:27
pluses with India. Again, very intelligent people got a lot of

1267
1:25:27 --> 1:25:34
Indians here that I interact with. Very clever people. So

1268
1:25:34 --> 1:25:37
yeah, I wouldn't wouldn't say no to India.

1269
1:25:40 --> 1:25:43
And what about what about Haiti? Sorry.

1270
1:25:45 --> 1:25:45
Haiti?

1271
1:25:45 --> 1:25:49
I've tried to ring Andrew, I can't get him. I don't know what

1272
1:25:49 --> 1:25:50
certain I really don't.

1273
1:25:51 --> 1:25:54
Steve, I assume that's what you what you were doing. So we'll

1274
1:25:54 --> 1:25:56
just keep going with this conversation. We've got an hour

1275
1:25:56 --> 1:25:58
to go. And if he comes and joins us.

1276
1:25:58 --> 1:26:01
I just want to let people you know, it's up to them if they

1277
1:26:01 --> 1:26:05
want to wait. I think Andrew's worth waiting for. Yeah. But

1278
1:26:05 --> 1:26:09
the, you know, I don't want them to be blaming me for hanging

1279
1:26:09 --> 1:26:13
around waiting for him and then eventually doesn't turn up. So I

1280
1:26:13 --> 1:26:16
think they might I can see the possibility that there was a

1281
1:26:16 --> 1:26:23
misunderstanding. I won't go into detail. But and or Yeah, I

1282
1:26:23 --> 1:26:26
don't know. I do know. But I don't want to stay here. So

1283
1:26:27 --> 1:26:31
anyway, I'm trying to get him on. And I have sent texts and I

1284
1:26:31 --> 1:26:36
tried to ring him on two different on the phone and on

1285
1:26:36 --> 1:26:37
WhatsApp. And I'm not on.

1286
1:26:39 --> 1:26:39
Yep. Thank you.

1287
1:26:41 --> 1:26:43
I'm grateful for Peter Underwood's insights while we're

1288
1:26:43 --> 1:26:45
waiting if that's okay with you.

1289
1:26:45 --> 1:26:50
Yes, that's fine. Yeah. Sure, Peter. One thing I know about

1290
1:26:50 --> 1:26:54
South Africa, Peter. Well, I knew someone who used to come

1291
1:26:54 --> 1:26:59
every year to work for the military as a doctor in the UK.

1292
1:27:00 --> 1:27:05
So every summer here, obviously winter there. And he they were

1293
1:27:05 --> 1:27:10
living in South Africa in Johannesburg. And so he and his

1294
1:27:10 --> 1:27:13
wife used to tell because he used to bring his wife and they

1295
1:27:13 --> 1:27:16
both used to stay in the officers mess. That was the

1296
1:27:16 --> 1:27:19
deal. You know, if he could, they put him up in the officer

1297
1:27:19 --> 1:27:22
mess and he would work there for three months, whatever it

1298
1:27:22 --> 1:27:28
was. And anyway, he said that in Johannesburg, you know, you

1299
1:27:28 --> 1:27:31
almost had to be from South Africa or living there a long

1300
1:27:31 --> 1:27:36
time to be safe because, for example, at night, no one ever

1301
1:27:36 --> 1:27:38
stopped at the traffic lights, it was too dangerous to stop.

1302
1:27:38 --> 1:27:42
And it was in some parts of Johannesburg. According to him,

1303
1:27:42 --> 1:27:44
it was too dangerous to stop in in the daytime. I don't know

1304
1:27:44 --> 1:27:45
whether that's true.

1305
1:27:46 --> 1:27:50
Yes, Stephen, that's absolutely true. Even here in the Cape

1306
1:27:50 --> 1:27:54
where it's very safe. We don't stop at red traffic lights at

1307
1:27:54 --> 1:27:58
night because potential hijacking doesn't happen to up

1308
1:27:58 --> 1:28:03
too often here. But in Johannesburg, definitely. They put

1309
1:28:03 --> 1:28:09
little baby dollies on the road to stop cars because you think

1310
1:28:10 --> 1:28:16
there's a child or someone's. Yeah. There's all kinds of

1311
1:28:16 --> 1:28:17
tricks.

1312
1:28:17 --> 1:28:21
So Peter, you said like 15 minutes ago, you said

1313
1:28:21 --> 1:28:26
unequivocally that I'm not saying how can it be safe if

1314
1:28:26 --> 1:28:28
that's the case, you know, that you can't even stop at the

1315
1:28:28 --> 1:28:29
traffic lights.

1316
1:28:30 --> 1:28:36
Well, safety is relative, Stephen. I came here in 99 and

1317
1:28:36 --> 1:28:41
married my South African wife in 2003. And we were here for 10

1318
1:28:41 --> 1:28:46
years before I had to go back to UK in 2009 because of the GFC.

1319
1:28:47 --> 1:28:51
And she taught me a lot. Basically, it's about being

1320
1:28:51 --> 1:28:59
aware. So for example, if I'm parked in a mall, and I come

1321
1:28:59 --> 1:29:05
back to my car, and I start the car, and I look in the mirror,

1322
1:29:05 --> 1:29:09
as we normally do, and I see a little note on the back of my

1323
1:29:09 --> 1:29:14
window. So I get out to look at the note. And they're in the

1324
1:29:14 --> 1:29:19
car and off before you know where you are. It's that sort of

1325
1:29:19 --> 1:29:24
thing that they're very clever at. Now these, I don't want to

1326
1:29:24 --> 1:29:27
make the impression it's happening all the time. This is

1327
1:29:27 --> 1:29:31
fairly rare, particularly in the Western Cape is very safe.

1328
1:29:31 --> 1:29:37
Indeed. I see police cars at least 10 times a day. We've got

1329
1:29:37 --> 1:29:42
marvelous police stations, and the police work with private

1330
1:29:42 --> 1:29:49
security. We have armed response, private security come

1331
1:29:49 --> 1:29:56
up to our drive at least two or three times a week. They're on

1332
1:29:56 --> 1:30:01
the watch all the time. So but it does happen. Yeah. My

1333
1:30:01 --> 1:30:08
wife was about 2006. She was in a bar in Fishook, which is a

1334
1:30:08 --> 1:30:13
little town just 10 kilometers from here at nine o'clock at

1335
1:30:13 --> 1:30:18
night. And five guys came in and told everybody to get on the

1336
1:30:18 --> 1:30:23
floor. They were armed, of course, except her. She was at

1337
1:30:23 --> 1:30:27
the bar and they stuck a nine mil in her head. And she looked

1338
1:30:27 --> 1:30:33
at the guy and said, well, pull the trigger. But he couldn't.

1339
1:30:34 --> 1:30:38
That's my lady. South African lady.

1340
1:30:42 --> 1:30:44
But it doesn't sound too safe, Peter. That's the point.

1341
1:30:46 --> 1:30:49
Well, as I say, safe is relative, really.

1342
1:30:49 --> 1:30:50
Okay, if you're

1343
1:30:51 --> 1:30:52
What are the murder figures compared to the

1344
1:30:53 --> 1:30:58
awful, absolutely awful. I wrote about it the other day. Funny

1345
1:30:58 --> 1:31:05
enough, Steve. It's in in in. See if I can remember the

1346
1:31:05 --> 1:31:12
numbers in UK. It's one is 600 a year.

1347
1:31:13 --> 1:31:15
That's about right. That would be about right.

1348
1:31:16 --> 1:31:19
In in in South Africa is 35,000.

1349
1:31:19 --> 1:31:25
Yeah. And the population is what half 60 million. Yeah. How

1350
1:31:25 --> 1:31:30
many in South Africa with 60 million, 60 million. Oh, so

1351
1:31:30 --> 1:31:36
that's Yeah, it's not as great as so what do you say 30,000 35,000

1352
1:31:36 --> 1:31:41
35,000. So that's 35. That's about 50 times.

1353
1:31:42 --> 1:31:43
It doesn't sound too safe.

1354
1:31:43 --> 1:31:43
Peter.

1355
1:31:46 --> 1:31:51
But bear in mind that 90% is black on black. These are what we

1356
1:31:51 --> 1:31:58
call the gangs. There's gang warfare, certainly in the Cape.

1357
1:31:59 --> 1:32:04
If you go down to Mitchell's Plain or Cali or Philippi, these

1358
1:32:04 --> 1:32:09
are gang areas. This is where the gangs kind of rule really,

1359
1:32:09 --> 1:32:13
the police don't have too much control over them. But they're

1360
1:32:13 --> 1:32:19
operating only within their own cycles in area. So they're not

1361
1:32:19 --> 1:32:24
affecting where I live, for example, or in the suburbs or

1362
1:32:24 --> 1:32:28
what have you. And also, don't forget Johannesburg is very much

1363
1:32:28 --> 1:32:33
concentrated in this area. Again, gangs are running the area

1364
1:32:33 --> 1:32:39
and Durban as well. So it's, it's not overall, it's very much

1365
1:32:39 --> 1:32:42
focused in tiny areas.

1366
1:32:42 --> 1:32:45
But I bet there are no statistics separating the areas.

1367
1:32:46 --> 1:32:49
Oh, no, I'm for well, I've looked for that funny enough,

1368
1:32:49 --> 1:32:53
Steve, I can't find any stats that separates the areas. But

1369
1:32:53 --> 1:32:57
from my own personal experience here in Simon's town, and

1370
1:32:57 --> 1:33:01
certainly in the southern suburbs in Cape Town, generally,

1371
1:33:03 --> 1:33:07
I've not seen any. Well, I've been here now. I came back what

1372
1:33:07 --> 1:33:11
in the middle of December, and I haven't seen any evidence

1373
1:33:11 --> 1:33:15
whatsoever. There's very peaceful, everything's rolling

1374
1:33:15 --> 1:33:23
along fine. So and it's very, and also, the lifestyle is very

1375
1:33:23 --> 1:33:28
Mediterranean. So although they don't siesta, but I do in the

1376
1:33:28 --> 1:33:35
afternoon, but they don't siesta as such as a kind of ethos.

1377
1:33:35 --> 1:33:42
They, it's a very slow, probably slower than manana, actually,

1378
1:33:42 --> 1:33:47
Cape time, I call it. I mean, you'll sit in a restaurant for

1379
1:33:47 --> 1:33:50
an hour before they'll after ordering before they'll come

1380
1:33:50 --> 1:33:54
and bring your food, for example. And everybody is very

1381
1:33:54 --> 1:33:58
sort of laid back and relaxed. So talking about safety is

1382
1:33:58 --> 1:34:00
relative, Stephen, that's the point.

1383
1:34:00 --> 1:34:03
Yeah. So have you been to Australia, Peter?

1384
1:34:05 --> 1:34:08
I have. I'm very good friends with Jerry Brady.

1385
1:34:08 --> 1:34:12
I just wanted to ask you whether, whether, if you have been to

1386
1:34:12 --> 1:34:15
Australia, whether Australians are more laid back than South

1387
1:34:15 --> 1:34:16
Africans in your view?

1388
1:34:17 --> 1:34:22
Well, my, I've been, I've been friends with Jerry Brady for 10

1389
1:34:22 --> 1:34:27
years, at least. And from what I can tell, it's certainly, it's

1390
1:34:27 --> 1:34:31
more, yeah, I think Australia is more energetic. Let's put it

1391
1:34:31 --> 1:34:37
that way. Here, it's much slower. I mean, Jerry has been

1392
1:34:37 --> 1:34:40
here to South Africa. He visited some years ago.

1393
1:34:40 --> 1:34:44
It's like, you see, we would think that Australia is pretty

1394
1:34:44 --> 1:34:47
slow compared to the United Kingdom.

1395
1:34:47 --> 1:34:47
But,

1396
1:34:48 --> 1:34:53
well, United Kingdom is hectic as far as I can say.

1397
1:34:53 --> 1:34:54
It what?

1398
1:34:54 --> 1:34:58
I mean, for example, they drive up motorways at 80 and 90 miles

1399
1:34:58 --> 1:35:05
an hour. If I drive up the, up the M3 here to Cape Town, very

1400
1:35:05 --> 1:35:08
few cars exceed 60 miles an hour.

1401
1:35:10 --> 1:35:13
Yeah, I love driving fast anyway. Yeah, but not say too

1402
1:35:13 --> 1:35:13
much.

1403
1:35:14 --> 1:35:21
Anyway, go ahead, Glen. Oh, sorry, Charles, it's you.

1404
1:35:21 --> 1:35:27
Yeah, well, Jim had his hand up in terms of, in terms of, sorry,

1405
1:35:27 --> 1:35:30
Glen's got his hand up now. Jim, are you done? We'll come back

1406
1:35:30 --> 1:35:31
to you, Jim. Go ahead, Glen.

1407
1:35:34 --> 1:35:39
So, Charles and Stephen, there's two particular topics we might

1408
1:35:40 --> 1:35:44
want to delve into that are very current. If Dave Colum is

1409
1:35:45 --> 1:35:48
comfortable discussing what's going on in the Ivy League

1410
1:35:48 --> 1:35:52
colleges and whether he's seeing any of the high degree of

1411
1:35:52 --> 1:35:56
conflict of pro-Palestinian and anti-Semitism existing at

1412
1:35:56 --> 1:36:01
Cornell. A second topic that I mentioned when you were on at

1413
1:36:01 --> 1:36:06
the beginning, Charles, is around the, how the climate

1414
1:36:06 --> 1:36:12
change story is not only false and a fraud, but it's actually

1415
1:36:12 --> 1:36:16
flipped that there are other conditions going on that could

1416
1:36:16 --> 1:36:20
lead to the decimation of the, of humans as well as all upper

1417
1:36:20 --> 1:36:26
level animals on the planet. So I could address that if people

1418
1:36:26 --> 1:36:29
wanted to hear a little bit about the show we're having in

1419
1:36:29 --> 1:36:30
two days on Thursday night.

1420
1:36:31 --> 1:36:34
Well, you've got the, you've got the, you put the link in, the

1421
1:36:34 --> 1:36:39
show is on Thursday night. And certainly where many of us here

1422
1:36:39 --> 1:36:41
on this call, including me, are of the view that there is a

1423
1:36:41 --> 1:36:45
depopulation agenda, Glen. So it makes total sense that the

1424
1:36:45 --> 1:36:48
whole fraud around climate emergency will do precisely what

1425
1:36:48 --> 1:36:52
you're talking about. So shining a light on the deforestation

1426
1:36:53 --> 1:36:59
threats to humanity is clearly of great value. And Dave is

1427
1:36:59 --> 1:37:01
doing something else. Dave Colum?

1428
1:37:01 --> 1:37:02
He plays

1429
1:37:06 --> 1:37:12
the carbon control world are saying that by burying trees

1430
1:37:12 --> 1:37:17
that somehow that's reducing the CO2 and wanting to get carbon

1431
1:37:17 --> 1:37:22
credits paid to them for that. What when in fact, because of

1432
1:37:22 --> 1:37:30
that significant loss of tree lines, and that does over 35 to

1433
1:37:30 --> 1:37:36
40% of the trees in the, in the world have been cut down and are

1434
1:37:36 --> 1:37:41
not active. Now compared to 600 years ago, when Columbus first

1435
1:37:41 --> 1:37:45
came to the United States, well to North America, and and that

1436
1:37:45 --> 1:37:50
that has put a giant strain on our atmosphere, that is now

1437
1:37:50 --> 1:37:55
lost its cushion that it had for hundreds of 1000s of years that

1438
1:37:55 --> 1:38:00
brought us to the huge explosion of life forms, both plant and

1439
1:38:00 --> 1:38:05
animals on on the planet, we're all due to the atmospheric mix

1440
1:38:05 --> 1:38:11
of high oxygen, and, and a reasonable amount of carbon that

1441
1:38:11 --> 1:38:15
could be converted to, to photosynthesis to make the

1442
1:38:15 --> 1:38:19
oxygen. And that that's fairly rare within, you know, the solar

1443
1:38:19 --> 1:38:24
system or even, you know, other places that were very unique

1444
1:38:24 --> 1:38:27
kind of place that had that mix that created a large amount of

1445
1:38:28 --> 1:38:32
oxygen that led to life. And that it had magnetic poles that

1446
1:38:32 --> 1:38:36
helped keep all that oxygen, the atmosphere in place from being

1447
1:38:36 --> 1:38:43
blown away by various sun activity. But that by by taking

1448
1:38:43 --> 1:38:48
away all that forest land that's primary is the biggest converter

1449
1:38:48 --> 1:38:54
of, of carbon dioxide into oxygen, that we've lost the

1450
1:38:54 --> 1:38:59
mechanics in the pump, the generator pump that supplies our

1451
1:38:59 --> 1:39:03
atmosphere. And we also have endangered the oceans with with

1452
1:39:03 --> 1:39:07
a lot of both plastic junk and, and various kind of runoffs that

1453
1:39:07 --> 1:39:13
that kill life forms that would otherwise have converted oxygen

1454
1:39:13 --> 1:39:17
in the water. I mean, the carbon dioxide in the water to oxygen

1455
1:39:17 --> 1:39:22
also. So where you can kind of view this as some as as having a

1456
1:39:22 --> 1:39:26
rope around your neck and it's slowly being tight. And at some

1457
1:39:26 --> 1:39:32
point, you know, initially, you can't do as much. You can't, you

1458
1:39:32 --> 1:39:36
know, run as much or so on because you can't get enough

1459
1:39:36 --> 1:39:40
oxygen after a while, you reduce your breathing just to survive.

1460
1:39:40 --> 1:39:44
And if it goes too far, you you're completely fixated. And

1461
1:39:44 --> 1:39:49
that's the state in the danger that we have going on within our

1462
1:39:49 --> 1:39:57
earth. And this is an attack on on both humanity and and on on

1463
1:39:57 --> 1:40:03
on Mother Nature, and that if if humans don't turn that around

1464
1:40:03 --> 1:40:07
and repopulate our trees, which which is straightforward,

1465
1:40:07 --> 1:40:12
because the, the dense, the high density places across Canada and

1466
1:40:12 --> 1:40:17
some parts of the United States, but especially Russia and, and

1467
1:40:17 --> 1:40:21
certain part, you know, Brazil has, you know, has had a mount

1468
1:40:21 --> 1:40:26
a monster's part, but they've been tearing down a lot of their

1469
1:40:26 --> 1:40:30
forests. There's certain parts of northern Africa that have the

1470
1:40:30 --> 1:40:34
potential they were in fact, at one point, extremely high

1471
1:40:34 --> 1:40:40
vegetation. But that through through evolutionary cycles,

1472
1:40:41 --> 1:40:44
turned into desert, but with the right kind of management, many,

1473
1:40:45 --> 1:40:48
many parts of northern Africa could be turned back from from

1474
1:40:48 --> 1:40:53
desert into flush areas that could support, you know, an

1475
1:40:53 --> 1:40:57
enormous amount of trees. There's there's various set of

1476
1:40:57 --> 1:41:04
programs known known as the 1 trillion tree initiatives that

1477
1:41:04 --> 1:41:07
have gotten started at various points, but they've never been

1478
1:41:07 --> 1:41:11
ramped up to the real size that they need to, to achieve those

1479
1:41:11 --> 1:41:15
goals. And we're at this point, we're still in a significant

1480
1:41:15 --> 1:41:18
decline of the amount of O2 oxygen.

1481
1:41:22 --> 1:41:26
Yes, well, well said, Glenn. And I'm a fan as a number of people

1482
1:41:26 --> 1:41:31
here are of Ian Plymer. And the evidence is clearly like the

1483
1:41:31 --> 1:41:36
plandemic that anybody who questions the fraudulent climate

1484
1:41:36 --> 1:41:41
emergency gets shut down, you cannot get any funding for any

1485
1:41:41 --> 1:41:44
research at university to show that there's no climate

1486
1:41:44 --> 1:41:48
emergency. And so shining a light on this, Glenn, on Thursday

1487
1:41:48 --> 1:41:52
night, you put the link into the chat, everybody, what time? What

1488
1:41:52 --> 1:41:54
time on Thursday night your time?

1489
1:41:55 --> 1:42:03
It's it's 8pm Eastern Time. So and it is we caught we recorded

1490
1:42:03 --> 1:42:06
live, but it's made available for replay immediately

1491
1:42:06 --> 1:42:11
afterwards. So we recognize that that's not always a convenient

1492
1:42:11 --> 1:42:15
time. This particular one we view as so urgent that we're

1493
1:42:15 --> 1:42:21
going to be planning activities next week, around running large

1494
1:42:21 --> 1:42:27
Zoom rooms to train many people on on the concern and how they

1495
1:42:27 --> 1:42:31
can deliver it. We were hoping to engage a large amount of

1496
1:42:32 --> 1:42:36
spiritual leaders in that process. Because we do think

1497
1:42:36 --> 1:42:43
this is a spiritual war we're in. And, you know, God will

1498
1:42:43 --> 1:42:49
survive all of this, but humans may not. And we'd like to see a

1499
1:42:49 --> 1:42:51
lot more humans survive.

1500
1:42:51 --> 1:42:56
Yeah, here, including you and me, Glenn. Okay, well, hands up

1501
1:42:56 --> 1:43:00
to discuss this topic or other topics. Marv.

1502
1:43:00 --> 1:43:07
Hey, when I, I, after the Fukushima catastrophe, I read a

1503
1:43:07 --> 1:43:11
lot about plankton, and I can't remember the number, but it's

1504
1:43:11 --> 1:43:20
either 60% or 70% of our oxygen comes from ocean plankton. The

1505
1:43:20 --> 1:43:25
trees are a small percentage of what produces it. But anyway,

1506
1:43:25 --> 1:43:32
there was a sharp dip. The Fukushima catastrophe reduced the

1507
1:43:32 --> 1:43:37
population of plankton in the Pacific dramatically for three or

1508
1:43:37 --> 1:43:42
four years. It's recovered now. But anyway, they would, yeah, we

1509
1:43:42 --> 1:43:46
talked about trees and the plant life on the land, but have you

1510
1:43:46 --> 1:43:47
looked at the plankton?

1511
1:43:48 --> 1:43:53
The plankton is actually a very valuable portion of it. It's not

1512
1:43:53 --> 1:43:56
nearly as high as you've indicated. The best estimates is

1513
1:43:56 --> 1:44:05
that the ocean conversion of oxygen, O2, is somewhere between

1514
1:44:05 --> 1:44:13
35 and 40% of the generated oxygen. But again, while it has

1515
1:44:13 --> 1:44:20
not been damaged as much as the tree canopy, it is in fact under

1516
1:44:20 --> 1:44:26
duress and Fukushima kind of things and blooms and plastic

1517
1:44:26 --> 1:44:31
contamination of the oceans and runoff contamination that, I

1518
1:44:31 --> 1:44:35
mean, river deltas often are a giant place for where some of

1519
1:44:35 --> 1:44:39
that conversion occurs, and many of them have been damaged by,

1520
1:44:40 --> 1:44:45
you know, improper use of fertilizer runoff. So there's a

1521
1:44:45 --> 1:44:49
range of natural things. I mean, the nice part about these trees

1522
1:44:49 --> 1:44:54
work for free, you know. We just got to, you know, start the

1523
1:44:54 --> 1:45:00
youngsters off. We got to have those sampling seedlings farms

1524
1:45:00 --> 1:45:06
put together and ways of putting them out in large scale. Various

1525
1:45:06 --> 1:45:10
people have actually engineered designs where you could have

1526
1:45:10 --> 1:45:17
planes of seedlings and basically do air drops. If you get

1527
1:45:17 --> 1:45:21
it the right height and the right weight of each little pot,

1528
1:45:21 --> 1:45:26
it will actually sink into the ground below. You include in the

1529
1:45:26 --> 1:45:29
set a certain amount of fertilizer to get it running, and

1530
1:45:29 --> 1:45:33
therefore you don't even necessarily need to have manual

1531
1:45:33 --> 1:45:38
teams going out and planting. You can do large scale planting

1532
1:45:38 --> 1:45:41
by going out the back of the cargo planes.

1533
1:45:41 --> 1:45:46
OK, thank you.

1534
1:45:46 --> 1:45:50
You know, I've always wondered about the, you know, in Oregon,

1535
1:45:50 --> 1:45:57
in our forests, we kill all the hardwood trees, we spray. All

1536
1:45:57 --> 1:46:03
our forests now are farmed for the Douglas fir and the fir trees.

1537
1:46:04 --> 1:46:08
Well, I think those hardwood trees, the broadleaf plants,

1538
1:46:08 --> 1:46:14
produce a lot more. They do a lot more for the synthesis than

1539
1:46:14 --> 1:46:19
the fir needles, or I might be wrong about that.

1540
1:46:19 --> 1:46:24
But no, you're correct. They are more efficient. But, you know,

1541
1:46:25 --> 1:46:29
it's unlikely we're going to go to a world where we're not using

1542
1:46:29 --> 1:46:33
wood for a lot of products. In general, most of the wood

1543
1:46:33 --> 1:46:37
companies are, you know, that's their livelihood. So they're

1544
1:46:37 --> 1:46:42
fairly good stewards around replanting, at least for evergreen

1545
1:46:43 --> 1:46:48
production and fir trees and so on. You're right, hardwood in a

1546
1:46:48 --> 1:46:54
full canopy like you have in the Brazilian jungles is the most

1547
1:46:54 --> 1:46:57
efficient. Virtually everything that comes down gets captured

1548
1:46:58 --> 1:47:04
and converted. But, you know, certainly taking areas and saying

1549
1:47:04 --> 1:47:07
we're going to be much more efficient around replanting them,

1550
1:47:07 --> 1:47:13
even for wood production, is a good positive way of keeping the

1551
1:47:13 --> 1:47:17
oxygen generator going. Thank you, Bob.

1552
1:47:17 --> 1:47:19
We've got hands up. Jim.

1553
1:47:22 --> 1:47:27
Hey, Glenn, I was just wondering about, I put in the chat a cover

1554
1:47:27 --> 1:47:31
of The Economist magazine from 2012 where the demon is standing

1555
1:47:31 --> 1:47:39
next to a climate change machine. The US Air Force said they

1556
1:47:40 --> 1:47:46
would have complete control of the weather by 2025, and it seems

1557
1:47:46 --> 1:47:52
they do. Can you discuss the intelligence agency control of the

1558
1:47:52 --> 1:47:57
weather as it pertains to the wellness company and Colson,

1559
1:47:57 --> 1:48:04
C-O-U-L-S-O-N, Aeronautical, that is the family of Foster Colson,

1560
1:48:04 --> 1:48:08
who runs the wellness company and Colson Aviation, that's

1561
1:48:08 --> 1:48:11
supposed to have the government contracts to put out all the

1562
1:48:11 --> 1:48:16
fires, especially the ones in Canada that just burned Canada's

1563
1:48:16 --> 1:48:20
forests so much that the smoke covered the United States. It

1564
1:48:20 --> 1:48:24
looks like there's a lot of intelligence network involvement

1565
1:48:24 --> 1:48:27
in burning up our forests. Can you go into that?

1566
1:48:33 --> 1:48:37
While I know a fair amount of it, it is not one of the topics that

1567
1:48:37 --> 1:48:42
we delved into in our show in any significant way. I will comment

1568
1:48:46 --> 1:48:53
relative to Lahana in Hawaii, and for anyone that thinks that

1569
1:48:53 --> 1:48:59
that was a natural disaster, they are wrong on two fronts. You

1570
1:48:59 --> 1:49:05
described altering climate, the most common mechanism of that is

1571
1:49:05 --> 1:49:11
seeding clouds. It is likely that that particular hurricane before

1572
1:49:11 --> 1:49:16
the fire was seeded in a certain way to accent the wind speeds that

1573
1:49:16 --> 1:49:23
were occurring on Lahana. More importantly, Lahana was in fact the

1574
1:49:23 --> 1:49:32
burnings were all accelerated by spraying of materials similar to

1575
1:49:32 --> 1:49:41
napalm, but in a much smaller type of gun and done from low-flying

1576
1:49:41 --> 1:49:47
helicopters. The strong indication is that those helicopters were

1577
1:49:47 --> 1:49:52
run by the Colson Company. That's the only one I have directly

1578
1:49:52 --> 1:49:58
commented on in public in an open forum that happened to be on a

1579
1:49:58 --> 1:50:04
Zoom call that got recorded. We suspect similar things, and it

1580
1:50:04 --> 1:50:07
sounds like you also do suspect similar things have gone on in

1581
1:50:07 --> 1:50:10
Canada, which is the home country for Colson.

1582
1:50:17 --> 1:50:18
All right, thank you.

1583
1:50:19 --> 1:50:19
You're welcome.

1584
1:50:29 --> 1:50:30
Lou, do you have a question for me?

1585
1:50:41 --> 1:50:45
No question. I just wanted to say you said God will live after human

1586
1:50:45 --> 1:50:53
beings are gone. God is love, period. That's 1 John 4-8. This idea of a

1587
1:50:53 --> 1:50:58
supreme being is a delusion. The universe is way too big with our

1588
1:50:58 --> 1:51:06
billions of galaxies for some Zeus-like supreme being to be, you

1589
1:51:06 --> 1:51:11
know, knowing where every feather drops and every leaf falls. That's

1590
1:51:11 --> 1:51:15
delusional. If we disagree on that, we just have to agree to disagree.

1591
1:51:16 --> 1:51:21
Well, there's a lot of different variations on how people represent

1592
1:51:21 --> 1:51:28
faith. The most I would say is something created the universe, and

1593
1:51:28 --> 1:51:36
something in our solar system created our planet in vast contrast to

1594
1:51:36 --> 1:51:42
every other planet in our solar system that gave us a combination of

1595
1:51:43 --> 1:51:51
an iron core that allowed a magnetic field. Within that, the appropriate

1596
1:51:52 --> 1:52:00
gravity levels and atmosphere settings to build nitrogen, oxygen,

1597
1:52:00 --> 1:52:08
carbon dioxide that allowed us to both have life forms created and flourish.

1598
1:52:10 --> 1:52:13
I personally don't think that's a coincidence.

1599
1:52:14 --> 1:52:18
It's not a coincidence, but if you're familiar, as we all are,

1600
1:52:18 --> 1:52:21
I have a Bachelor of Science degree in religious studies.

1601
1:52:23 --> 1:52:28
Hydrogen, when it burns long enough and hard enough, you get fusion,

1602
1:52:28 --> 1:52:34
and then you get helium, and then you get the various other, what,

1603
1:52:34 --> 1:52:40
over 100 elements on the periodic table. Carbon is the miracle molecule

1604
1:52:41 --> 1:52:51
because it can bind with so much other matter. I think E equals mc squared,

1605
1:52:51 --> 1:52:56
where energy and matter are equatable when you talk about the speed of

1606
1:52:56 --> 1:53:03
light squared equating them. It's a wild world. I recently heard about

1607
1:53:04 --> 1:53:09
frequencies being a big thing, and other dimensions. We went from

1608
1:53:09 --> 1:53:13
Newtonian physics to quantum physics, and now this guy at a party I was at

1609
1:53:13 --> 1:53:20
last Saturday said, dimensional physics. It just gets so bizarre and esoteric,

1610
1:53:20 --> 1:53:26
and really metaphysical and ridiculous to me. We life forms,

1611
1:53:26 --> 1:53:32
we're fragile creatures, we're cellular based. There are three forms of life,

1612
1:53:32 --> 1:53:40
unconscious life, like our insects and our plants, and there's conscious life,

1613
1:53:40 --> 1:53:45
like our fellow mammals, our dogs and cats. We get pet therapy from them in comfort.

1614
1:53:45 --> 1:53:54
And then there's us, there's self-conscious life. A lot of philosophers over the millennia

1615
1:53:54 --> 1:54:01
have spoken about, we're the only creatures that are conscious of self,

1616
1:54:02 --> 1:54:08
have a conscience. The more you know, the more you know how much you don't know.

1617
1:54:09 --> 1:54:15
But God is love, period. It's the attraction force and the equally necessary separation force

1618
1:54:16 --> 1:54:22
in a beautiful balance. Water is life, and I gotta go.

1619
1:54:23 --> 1:54:28
Well, as a comment, you know, in good times when the world is truly in balance,

1620
1:54:29 --> 1:54:35
being able to have theological dialogue in an open society and free debate is a wonderful thing,

1621
1:54:35 --> 1:54:42
and allows various kinds of options to everyone. Unfortunately, we're not in that balance right

1622
1:54:42 --> 1:54:46
now. We're in grave danger of a massive imbalance.

1623
1:54:46 --> 1:54:50
And fear not, it's the best of times and the worst of times.

1624
1:54:52 --> 1:54:56
It's the best of times and the worst of times. You can understand why the oligarchs don't want

1625
1:54:56 --> 1:55:05
change, because they've got their rituals and their comfort zones. And so, you know,

1626
1:55:05 --> 1:55:13
compassion is a luxury. And it's a form of compassion, you know, to listen to others and

1627
1:55:13 --> 1:55:22
to expound on what we consider our areas of knowledge. So thanks, guys, for having the Zoom

1628
1:55:22 --> 1:55:26
meeting. I'm sorry, Bridget didn't show up. Ben, I've heard him before, and that member of

1629
1:55:26 --> 1:55:34
Parliament is right on. And so thanks for listening to me. Thanks for letting me make a comment here

1630
1:55:34 --> 1:55:40
from beautiful Ormond Beach, Florida. Enjoy. Enjoy Florida.

1631
1:55:40 --> 1:55:47
Creators, we're creators, conspiracy realist, educator, activist, truth-or-organizer, reader,

1632
1:55:47 --> 1:55:51
socializers. Well said, Lou. Well said. Thank you, Charles.

1633
1:55:52 --> 1:55:59
Okay, Anders. Yeah, I'm not quite sure if I shall comment on the wellness company or

1634
1:56:00 --> 1:56:03
climate, but I think it may be better to do the climate.

1635
1:56:03 --> 1:56:07
Anders, do both, because you posted something that was interesting on the wellness company,

1636
1:56:07 --> 1:56:15
but do climate first, then the wellness company. Okay. So I've been doing a long research on

1637
1:56:15 --> 1:56:21
climate. I would say I am a nerd, so I could talk for hours about what I know.

1638
1:56:24 --> 1:56:31
So there is not a problem with the climate. It's the problem with politicians to believe there is

1639
1:56:31 --> 1:56:43
a problem. So the problem is that they started to make this fantasy of that there is a carbon,

1640
1:56:47 --> 1:56:56
let's say, connection, the CO2, which was causing the global warming. We had a long time cooling

1641
1:56:56 --> 1:57:09
from about 1300 till about 1850. We had a huge cooling effect about 1645 to 1710. It was a huge

1642
1:57:09 --> 1:57:18
problem of the low level of carbon. It was connected very strongly to the 400-year low solar

1643
1:57:19 --> 1:57:27
electromagnetic or magnetic radiation. We are now entering a similar period,

1644
1:57:27 --> 1:57:39
or it's getting colder. It will be colder between 1917 and 2053, according to Valentin Sarkova,

1645
1:57:39 --> 1:57:49
who is number one in solar research. The CO2 will most likely go down because there is established

1646
1:57:49 --> 1:57:55
in science a five to seven year relation. So when the temperature starts to drop,

1647
1:57:57 --> 1:58:08
the CO2 will go down. It will go back to the sea, and we will see a drop. Even

1648
1:58:08 --> 1:58:15
we believe that there is a problem with emission. This emission is going to equilibrium by the law

1649
1:58:15 --> 1:58:23
of Henry. It is known science. It's just that they don't want to talk about it. It was high level of

1650
1:58:23 --> 1:58:33
CO2 in 1942. After a very warm, the highest temperature on record is not recently. Most

1651
1:58:33 --> 1:58:38
of the tops were in the 1930s. It is quite interesting to see that they were

1652
1:58:40 --> 1:58:50
silencing the German scientists who found this data that it was 440 parts per million of carbon

1653
1:58:50 --> 1:58:55
CO2 in 1942 after the global warming in the 1930s.

1654
1:58:55 --> 1:59:03
So, so, and Beck is the name of this scientist. He died about 2009, and they have been trying to

1655
1:59:03 --> 1:59:10
shut him down. They're trying to hide the fact that there was a correlation between CO2 and

1656
1:59:10 --> 1:59:19
temperature. And when temperature goes up, CO2 go up. When it go down, it's CO2 go down. And I think

1657
1:59:19 --> 1:59:24
within two years, we will see that CO2 will start to drop. It goes back to the sea following

1658
1:59:24 --> 1:59:37
a cooling trend. So this is caused by the solar, huge magnets in the sun, which are not completely

1659
1:59:37 --> 1:59:44
in sync. But so you can analyze these like in a prism, and you will find their components,

1660
1:59:44 --> 1:59:51
and you analyze those in a mechanical, a mathematic model. This is Valentine Sarkova in Northumbria.

1661
1:59:52 --> 1:59:58
And she has then made backward and forward correlation. And this is in line with NASA

1662
1:59:58 --> 2:00:05
and anyone who really knows about science and the sunspot, let's say. So this is the real science

1663
2:00:05 --> 2:00:16
of the what is causing that. It is not in Europe or not northern hemisphere. And it in Norway,

1664
2:00:16 --> 2:00:22
it is getting much greener. The last hundred years, it's a lot greener because we were starving with

1665
2:00:22 --> 2:00:31
carbon CO2 from let's say 1650 till about 1850. And it has been growing, but it's still very low.

1666
2:00:31 --> 2:00:37
So we don't have a problem. There is nothing to solve. We need more carbon in the air.

1667
2:00:39 --> 2:00:43
Anders, I completely agree with all the positions you're taking.

1668
2:00:44 --> 2:00:52
And I'm completely, you know, our team is completely against the climate change

1669
2:00:52 --> 2:01:01
as it's described, namely that we have excess CO2 and that that is going to lead to some kind

1670
2:01:01 --> 2:01:11
of decline, either warming issues or others that are dangerous to life. Instead, we're saying what's

1671
2:01:11 --> 2:01:19
happening is the... I'm not worried. Hold on, let me finish. What has happened is the engine that

1672
2:01:20 --> 2:01:33
drives the production of O2 has broken down both in the forest cover as well as the oceans.

1673
2:01:33 --> 2:01:43
And with that, there's been a absolute loss of not only oxygen, but also carbon dioxide and

1674
2:01:43 --> 2:01:50
nitrogen that these have been lost in the very, very high sides of the atmosphere.

1675
2:01:51 --> 2:02:00
And that at some point, you keep shrinking the absolute amount of oxygen in those high areas

1676
2:02:00 --> 2:02:06
where the extra cushion was, and then it starts to affect the amount of oxygen you have at sea level.

1677
2:02:07 --> 2:02:13
And that's the point we're heading for. We've taken away all of the spare cushion and we're

1678
2:02:14 --> 2:02:19
actually, you know, there's only been at sea level a small amount of oxygen drop.

1679
2:02:20 --> 2:02:26
What is causing it, in your opinion? Is it the harp? Is it the chanterelle? What is the

1680
2:02:26 --> 2:02:33
cause of the changes? Is it natural or manmade? Well, it's manmade from the viewpoint that large

1681
2:02:33 --> 2:02:40
amounts of the forest have been cut down or burned down compared to 600 years ago.

1682
2:02:40 --> 2:02:43
On the same side, they're growing. So if you go to...

1683
2:02:43 --> 2:02:50
But they're not being replenished. I mean, typical forest covers, you know,

1684
2:02:50 --> 2:02:58
gather nearly 100% of all light that comes down. Once you burn them down and not energetically

1685
2:02:59 --> 2:03:07
reset their seedlings to fill in that space, they are far less efficient and therefore producing

1686
2:03:08 --> 2:03:15
less oxygen in the oxygen engine. But let's say if you go to Norway, Sweden, Finland,

1687
2:03:16 --> 2:03:21
Russia, in Norway it's about 40% increase of forest the last 100 years.

1688
2:03:24 --> 2:03:29
Yeah, there are some places that have filled in more and as you described, some of that

1689
2:03:29 --> 2:03:38
is been can be attributed to the modest rise of CO2 that they were more efficient. See, trees

1690
2:03:38 --> 2:03:45
don't need a high percentage of oxygen in order for them to operate.

1691
2:03:45 --> 2:03:54
They also produce all the food, all the crops, they consume carbon, CO2, and they emit O2. So

1692
2:03:54 --> 2:04:02
all the increase of 25-30% in food production is kind of producing O2 all over.

1693
2:04:04 --> 2:04:10
It is producing some. It's only a fraction, a very small fraction of what you get out of the canopy

1694
2:04:11 --> 2:04:17
of a rainforest or a northern forest across Canada or the Soviet Union.

1695
2:04:19 --> 2:04:23
But Canada still have a lot of forest. I mean, they didn't touch much. So, okay,

1696
2:04:23 --> 2:04:31
I'm much more worried with the pollution and the chemtrail and the harp because there is a

1697
2:04:31 --> 2:04:39
huge amount of dying trees now the last three, four years following most likely radiation and poison

1698
2:04:39 --> 2:04:45
from harmful chemtrail. So I'm much more worried about poison and radiation than

1699
2:04:46 --> 2:04:55
let's say the natural processes because I mean, we have had much higher O2 earlier when it was

1700
2:04:55 --> 2:04:59
much more, when the temperature was warmer. It's a function also of temperature.

1701
2:05:02 --> 2:05:08
There's a variety of cross currents and anything that man is explicitly doing to damage the ecology

1702
2:05:09 --> 2:05:18
through whatever degree of chemtrails are occurring is absolutely evil and should be altered.

1703
2:05:19 --> 2:05:28
Unfortunately, people that are clearing forests in order to plant crops or clearing forests in order

1704
2:05:28 --> 2:05:37
to build open spaces, they don't recognize the danger they're putting the planet under by excessive

1705
2:05:37 --> 2:05:44
amounts of that. It's bad. So I know, for example, in Brazil, they're cutting down rainforest

1706
2:05:45 --> 2:06:01
to make sugar cane so that Sweden can go on E, whatever 85% non-petrol, let's say, ethanol.

1707
2:06:01 --> 2:06:09
So this is completely crazy what they're doing. So, oh, yes, absolutely. Also the American idea

1708
2:06:09 --> 2:06:17
to burn, let's say, corn or to make fuel out of corn. That's also wrong idea.

1709
2:06:17 --> 2:06:23
And Glenn, for that matter, I can't work out. I'm trying to work out. Look,

1710
2:06:24 --> 2:06:29
do you two believe that man-made climate change is an issue?

1711
2:06:29 --> 2:06:31
Definitely not.

1712
2:06:31 --> 2:06:33
Pardon?

1713
2:06:33 --> 2:06:35
Definitely not.

1714
2:06:35 --> 2:06:37
Absolutely. I agree with you. What do you say, Glenn?

1715
2:06:37 --> 2:06:39
Whether it's an issue?

1716
2:06:39 --> 2:06:45
You know, the warnings about man-made climate change?

1717
2:06:45 --> 2:06:47
No, no, it's a complete hoax.

1718
2:06:47 --> 2:06:53
So I don't understand what you two are discussing, then.

1719
2:06:53 --> 2:06:55
Well, I...

1720
2:06:55 --> 2:07:07
There is a scientific debate whether there is a reduction of oxygen, and that is a story.

1721
2:07:07 --> 2:07:15
But let's say the question is why? So if the temperature has been going up the last 40 years,

1722
2:07:15 --> 2:07:24
the trees and the plants have been more productive. So then I would say O2 has been going up because

1723
2:07:24 --> 2:07:32
carbon has been going into the plants. But, okay, you are burning fossil fuels. But this balance

1724
2:07:32 --> 2:07:38
is created by the law of Henry. So within six, seven years, there is new equilibrium, whatever

1725
2:07:39 --> 2:07:47
temperature there is. It's not related to emission. It's related to the temperature. The K constant

1726
2:07:47 --> 2:07:53
of law of Henry says that it is defined by the temperature and the new equilibrium.

1727
2:07:55 --> 2:07:56
Yeah.

1728
2:07:56 --> 2:07:58
So, Stephen, think of it this way.

1729
2:07:58 --> 2:08:03
No, I'm just thinking about the audience, Glenn. Glenn, can you explain it to the audience

1730
2:08:03 --> 2:08:08
what you two are arguing about? And also explain to the audience what you two agree on

1731
2:08:09 --> 2:08:16
because I think that this discussion is going to confuse people who are against the emergency

1732
2:08:16 --> 2:08:23
caused by global warming, you know? So... And I don't believe that man-made global warming is an

1733
2:08:23 --> 2:08:29
issue. I think the, you know, it's just crazy, the whole thing. And I just think...

1734
2:08:29 --> 2:08:31
We have some disagreement on O2.

1735
2:08:31 --> 2:08:33
It's very difficult to argue what you're arguing about.

1736
2:08:36 --> 2:08:36
Okay.

1737
2:08:36 --> 2:08:39
We disagree on oxygen, not on carbon.

1738
2:08:40 --> 2:08:45
Correct. So climate change is based on the theory that there's excess carbon dioxide

1739
2:08:45 --> 2:08:55
occurring in the atmosphere, and that will lead to a severe downgrade of the Earth and all of its

1740
2:08:55 --> 2:08:55
life forms.

1741
2:08:57 --> 2:08:57
Yeah.

1742
2:08:58 --> 2:09:06
The issue that I'm identifying clearly and for which there's, you know, a fair amount of

1743
2:09:06 --> 2:09:13
awareness, but not a huge amount. It's been covered up for a range of reasons that I won't go into.

1744
2:09:14 --> 2:09:23
But with the reduction of the oxygen generator. So if you think of trees and various kind of

1745
2:09:23 --> 2:09:31
plant lives as, you know, within their total ecology of the Earth, they generate oxygen.

1746
2:09:31 --> 2:09:39
And with high levels of oxygen, that's what pushed the fork forward within our whole Earth

1747
2:09:39 --> 2:09:46
to have life forms. In the early stages, when you only had very simple and single cell plants,

1748
2:09:46 --> 2:09:50
you only had a small amount of oxygen being put off, and most of that then got absorbed

1749
2:09:50 --> 2:09:54
by the iron, and it turned into rust, and you had no atmosphere.

1750
2:09:55 --> 2:10:02
But as the rust sort of diminished, or the iron readily available on the Earth's surface

1751
2:10:02 --> 2:10:12
diminished, then it did produce free oxygen, and with that additional nitrogen as an air

1752
2:10:12 --> 2:10:16
instead of a solid. And that's where we got an atmosphere.

1753
2:10:17 --> 2:10:26
And without an atmosphere, as exists in Mars, you have no life. So that's what's built up.

1754
2:10:26 --> 2:10:35
And together, the atmosphere has been growing for millions of years, and got to the stage of very

1755
2:10:35 --> 2:10:44
robust plant and animal expansion. It's considered a giant explosion inside of a

1756
2:10:45 --> 2:10:52
galactical issues because it did happen so fast. But it relies on that pump, that pump of new

1757
2:10:52 --> 2:11:00
oxygen coming in on a constant basis, and we've lost that pump. And we're now losing that amount

1758
2:11:00 --> 2:11:07
of oxygen, and on an absolute level, we're seeing our atmosphere reduced and collapsing.

1759
2:11:07 --> 2:11:18
So you think, Glenn, that there is a danger to the planet then because of what matter?

1760
2:11:18 --> 2:11:24
There is a danger to the planet, but not by climate change. Climate change is very much

1761
2:11:24 --> 2:11:33
focused on there being a problem with the CO2 levels, the carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide

1762
2:11:33 --> 2:11:40
percentages in the Earth's atmosphere have fluxed over quite wide ranges. Anders has alluded to that.

1763
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There's no such thing as this runaway train of CO2 that got pushed forward by the climate change

1764
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crazies. So Anders, what do you think about that?

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I just checked it up, and there has been a small change of oxygen, but it is not significant.

1766
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And I don't even know fully. He has theories about pulsation, but let's say

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I'm not worried about oxygen. So it might be a reason.

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You're measuring it both by the amount of oxygen relative to the other parts of the atmosphere

1769
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and around the amounts that occur at low levels of the atmosphere.

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We just checked up. We are now at about 20%. It was 35% some 35 million years ago.

1771
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So there is natural variation both in oxygen and CO2. So I don't think if it is going to 19%,

1772
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it's going to be causing huge problems for us.

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Maybe they measure it differently. You're substantially wrong on that.

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But I don't even share about the mechanism of it. So I'm afraid of the pollution.

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That's bad for everything, pollution and radiation. And it might be a connection to that.

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It's unlikely. There is some level of the impact of pollution. But the other thing around pollution

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is that is controllable, relatively forward way, controllable by humans. And we've seen that

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certainly in the US from many decades of being anti-pollution and seeing things

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2:13:53 --> 2:14:00
comparatively improving, especially compared to China, which has got a massive pollution problem.

1780
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Generally, but chemtrails were a big worry. And I'm not sure most of you are realizing it,

1781
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but chemtrails used to be something they put into plane and to gas the atmosphere. And they

1782
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said it was geoengineering. We see now what is going on. But now they are putting also aluminium

1783
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nanoparticles and many other chemical plastics and cesium into the jet fuel of normal planes.

1784
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So the amount of pollution now is maybe 10 times more than it was 10 years ago. It is extreme now.

1785
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The air, the sun, the blue sky is now very often covered with film from chemtrails.

1786
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It's just to look up to see it.

1787
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I'm not an expert on that. I will concede to the things you're describing. But one of the things

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that's obvious is those people that are taking those actions are hiding it from us. They are

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2:15:12 --> 2:15:21
secluding it. Well, then can you identify the individual players, the individual budgets that

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2:15:22 --> 2:15:27
exist in various countries that are funding that? And the amount of the volume?

1791
2:15:27 --> 2:15:33
It's basically USA, NATO, the deep state. It's the same people behind the COVID. So they have a very

1792
2:15:33 --> 2:15:42
bad plan. And pollution is part of the story to destroy life on earth to some extent.

1793
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I'm simply saying those people taking those evil actions in control, if those control actions were

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reversed, so would be the danger. However, in the case of oxygen loss and atmospheric loss,

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it's not enough to stop the evil players from doing things. It's also to say that we have to

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replenish the engine that had created this relatively positive and ideal level of atmosphere

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for us. Where you and I are disagreeing is on the mechanisms that get used in order to measure

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the absolute amount of atmosphere that we have around the earth.

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Yeah. But I know for a fact there are two main problems. It is radiation and pollution. And this

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is manmade and it is on purpose and it is by evil governments and politicians and those behind them.

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It's the same.

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Anderson, Glenn, can I modify it to three different possibilities? Natural, manmade,

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or intelligence made? And this seems to be intelligence made. And that's evil intelligence.

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Let's say a plan that is intelligence in conjunction with demonic forces. And that goes

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2:17:29 --> 2:17:36
back to that picture on the Economist magazine where the main demon is standing right next to

1806
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a climate change machine. So if we think about this as those three possibilities, manmade mistake,

1807
2:17:45 --> 2:17:53
natural mistake like the COVID versus evil intelligence design. And then we have the

1808
2:17:53 --> 2:18:00
occurrence of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein as an evil intelligence design, as well as the climate

1809
2:18:00 --> 2:18:08
change as an evil intelligence design. And you see orange skies everywhere. Well, when we were

1810
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children, we would throw chemicals in the fire and make it colors. And if you threw cadmium in the

1811
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fire, you'd see orange flames. People look up and not only do they see orange near the sunset,

1812
2:18:22 --> 2:18:29
they see it on the opposite side of the earth. The orange sky is all around us. And that may be

1813
2:18:29 --> 2:18:36
cadmium. And I'm noticing all my trees are dying in my backyard. And that may be the aluminum and

1814
2:18:36 --> 2:18:42
the cadmium and these other things that are being perhaps put into our jet fuels. I don't know. And

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that's what I haven't analyzed. So, Jim, I think you're adding to the dialogue, and that's very

1816
2:18:54 --> 2:19:04
useful to recognize the element of intelligence and its role. I would alter it in that you're

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describing it the evil intelligence as being a primary initiator. And I would say, no, it's the

1818
2:19:14 --> 2:19:22
evil psychopaths that are the initiators. And they happen to recognize the power that can be achieved

1819
2:19:23 --> 2:19:33
through an intelligence toolset that is designed around not being visible, designed around tricking

1820
2:19:33 --> 2:19:46
people, and lying in order to trick people. And that the psychopath cartel at the top with George

1821
2:19:46 --> 2:19:54
Soros and Rockefeller family and various others, they are the initiators and the control agents,

1822
2:19:54 --> 2:20:01
and they're utilizing the intel world as a weapon to keep the rest of us into a slave state.

1823
2:20:03 --> 2:20:10
But the purpose, if you put everything together, you see they are trying to do something with

1824
2:20:11 --> 2:20:25
the food production by energy shock, by nitrate limitation. And the weather manipulation and the

1825
2:20:25 --> 2:20:32
poisoning will reduce food production. And this is they are planning a food crisis, global food

1826
2:20:32 --> 2:20:43
crisis within maybe 12 months. Yes, I concur with that. And if you know Manhattan, Kansas,

1827
2:20:43 --> 2:20:52
Manhattan, Kansas is right near Fort Riley, Kansas, where the Spanish flu originated from in

1828
2:20:52 --> 2:21:00
1918 or something like that. Manhattan, Kansas is where the new level four bio warfare labs are.

1829
2:21:00 --> 2:21:09
And it is being staffed by US Air Force physician Robert Cadlec, K-A-D-L-E-C. And he just moved all

1830
2:21:09 --> 2:21:15
the hoof and mouth disease from Plum Island, the safety of an island off the coast of Long Island

1831
2:21:15 --> 2:21:21
in New York, into the center of the United States, Manhattan, Kansas, where he could have a lab leak

1832
2:21:21 --> 2:21:29
and hoof and mouth disease would damage our entire cattle population in Kansas and the rest of the

1833
2:21:29 --> 2:21:36
United States, prompting a mandatory destruction of our entire cattle population, the elimination

1834
2:21:36 --> 2:21:41
of the land of milk and honey here in the United States, moving to synthetic beef and synthetic

1835
2:21:41 --> 2:21:47
milk and further imports from Namibia Africa, as we were talking about before. So this looks like

1836
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a planned, just like we had a Wuhan leak, quote, leak when it was actually a planned release,

1837
2:21:52 --> 2:21:56
it looks like. And it wasn't the Chinese who did it. It was the United States and the Six Eyes

1838
2:21:56 --> 2:22:02
Intelligence Network who designed the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein rather than whatever the virus is,

1839
2:22:02 --> 2:22:06
or who knows what that is. But the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is a biotero weapon. And now the

1840
2:22:06 --> 2:22:11
hoof and mouth disease is going to be one of the shots. There are multiple shots on goal. They

1841
2:22:12 --> 2:22:18
the intelligence networks do not rely on one thing. There are multiple shots on goal and there are

1842
2:22:18 --> 2:22:25
many things that are coming at us, including Monsanto, the ramifications of Monsanto's use

1843
2:22:25 --> 2:22:33
of Roundup. Roundup prompts a fungus, a special type of fungus on the roots of plants that has

1844
2:22:33 --> 2:22:38
been used as a biotero weapon that can cause nasal bleeding and vaginal bleeding. And we'll go into

1845
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that later on when I get more research on that. But there is a reason why Monsanto Roundup is

1846
2:22:45 --> 2:22:50
noted to cause cancer, should be banned immediately, but is still being sold and

1847
2:22:50 --> 2:22:57
Bayer is just sucking up the billions in fines, keeps paying them out as they keep selling the

1848
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Roundup. There's a reason for it. And it has to do with decimation of our food as Roundup depletes

1849
2:23:05 --> 2:23:13
the zinc sources in our food. You grow props with Roundup and you don't have much zinc in the product,

1850
2:23:13 --> 2:23:22
the corn, the wheat. And a friend of mine lives in Canada. They say if you move a stash of wheat

1851
2:23:22 --> 2:23:26
to put in a silo in Canada, they test it for Roundup. If it doesn't have any Roundup in it,

1852
2:23:26 --> 2:23:33
they don't accept it. This is disturbing. So this pesticide, I've been going into this now,

1853
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I can tell because I was so surprised to find that non-vaxxed people have the same poison in

1854
2:23:40 --> 2:23:49
their body now like the vaxxed people. So there is a source and the pesticides are now nanotech.

1855
2:23:49 --> 2:23:58
The water and the milk is filtering. So there is so many types of sources of pollution and it's not

1856
2:23:58 --> 2:24:03
only polluting us, it's polluting the trees and the plants, fish, the insects, everything.

1857
2:24:03 --> 2:24:11
And that is very important. And for us to just harp on this idea that ban the vaccine,

1858
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that is the wrong path. That is a divided path. We must ban the spike protein in any form, vaccine,

1859
2:24:22 --> 2:24:30
virus, hydrogel, aerosol. It's a nanotechnology. The spike protein is one of the biotero weapons.

1860
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You're right. There's more nanotech that I don't understand. You can talk about the wavelengths

1861
2:24:34 --> 2:24:39
and stuff. You have certain expertise that I don't. Mine may be biochemistry or medical.

1862
2:24:39 --> 2:24:46
And so the nanotech, so I can concentrate on the spike protein as being a biotero weapon in vaccine,

1863
2:24:46 --> 2:24:52
virus, hydrogel, or any form. That spike protein is the biotero weapon.

1864
2:24:52 --> 2:24:59
If you go to United Nations 17 goals, one is clean water. What they really mean,

1865
2:24:59 --> 2:25:08
they want to use nanografin and polymer film to clean the water, to pollute it. It's the opposite.

1866
2:25:08 --> 2:25:14
They will do the same with the milk. So they give now jabs to the cows and the bulls. They

1867
2:25:14 --> 2:25:21
get the same poison in them like we did. It goes to the chicken, to the pork. So the pollution is

1868
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now extreme in so many fields. And it is a huge mistake to believe that you're fine if you're not

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jammed. And that is very true. But however, you've heard me and I appreciate Stephen Frost and

1870
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Charles Kovacs allowing me to speak about the things that RFK Jr. was thrown off of platforms

1871
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for speaking about. And that is the genetic specificity. There are certain things that you

1872
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couldn't speak about that you were banned. And so that's why I'm so grateful to Stephen Frost and

1873
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Charles Kovacs because they allow discussion about various topics, civilized discussion.

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And one of the civilized discussions we need to have is whether there is some type of genetic

1875
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specificity, people who may not be affected or adversely affected or their children adversely

1876
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affected by the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. And that SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, remember Pfizer's

1877
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CEO Albert Borla is not a physician. He's a veterinarian. And Albert Borla's specialty is

1878
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immunocastration, castrating with a series of two vaccines. And if you notice, the SARS-CoV-2 spike

1879
2:26:37 --> 2:26:44
protein drops testosterone. It binds to organs with the highest number of ACE2 receptors. And

1880
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there are three ACE2 receptors on the spike protein in vaccine or virus form. And those three and those

1881
2:26:53 --> 2:26:59
ACE2 receptors number per square centimeter are highest on men's testicles. So if you have a high

1882
2:26:59 --> 2:27:06
affinity for that ACE2 receptor binding domain on the spike protein, your generations may be adversely

1883
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affected by immunocastration, as is the specialty of Albert Borla. Why is he the head of Pfizer?

1884
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That's bizarre. You know, and I can make a comment. All right, everybody. Everybody, hang on. Before we

1885
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continue, because this, I love, I love stuff on testicles. And I have no drama discussing stuff

1886
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on testicles. And we're at our two and a half hour, over two and a half hours. And so I want to stop

1887
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this recording and Tom Rodman's got his video telegram meeting happening. But just for your

1888
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information, everybody, we got to 65 people, one hour in, we've got 36 people here now.

1889
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And all these issues are, you know, Susan's got her hand up, Peter's got a hand up. I'm happy to stop

1890
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the recording. I've got to go and do something else. If you want to keep this conversation going,

1891
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if I stop the recording, then when that runs out, Tom, are you happy to stay here? You can,

1892
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Stephen will be here. I can stay here. I don't know if someone else wants to,

1893
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someone else can moderate to. Stephen's here, but I'll stop the recording. Oh, yeah.

1894
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It's wonderful to have you all here. And we'll get Andrew Bridgen shortly, I'm sure. I'll save the

1895
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chat and Jeremy Forbes had to go and keep the conversation going. And I'll keep this open.

1896
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I'll just stop the recording so we don't have to edit so much. All right. Is happy with that?

1897
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Yep. All right. Keep going with the conversation on testicles. I'd love to join it,

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but I've got other things to do. Just a comment, Jim. I would add that I have read research.