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We comprise lots of professions here, not just doctors and we're from all around the
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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.
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And now welcome to our guest presenter today, Sukrit Bhakdi, whose background is in the
notes to the recording.
And we thank you so much Sukrit for giving us your time again.
You've presented to us I think twice before and thank you for sharing your time, wisdom
and insights.
And thank you Stephen Frost for creating this group and for organizing Sukrit to be with
us today.
Sukrit over to you and you have ability to share your screen if you wish.
Thank you very much Charles and everyone and Stephen.
Stephen are you there actually?
Yes, I'm here.
I'm here.
Hi Stephen.
I'm sorry I was a bit late.
I had problems with the computer.
Sorry about that.
Don't be sorry.
Come on Stephen.
Now, we were communicating for this and you put up a topic that you thought we should
go through, right?
Would you like to say what we discussed?
So I think you're referring to, I asked you about the interplay if you like between immunology
and virology.
Specifically in my mind, the likely decline of the influence of immunology, which is in
simple terms, God based, shall we say.
So the human immune system is absolutely wonderful.
And so they wanted to destroy that kind of respect for the human immune system, which
God shall we say gave us.
So in my mind, also virology I think was created or at least encouraged because it was the
exact opposite in my mind.
I may be wrong, Sikrit, but you are very well qualified as a medical doctor, an immunologist
and a virologist to talk about this.
So that's what I thought was very important for the world to hear.
Not my views, but your views on that.
And maybe, you know, it's difficult when you've spent your life in virology to tell the world
what you think are the likely frauds that were committed to allow what happened in early
2020 to occur.
So, but I can jump in any time to help you out.
Thank you so much.
Right, Stephen.
Got it.
Now, first of all, let me tell you that I'm not actually a virologist by definition.
I'm a microbiologist.
So I'm more specialized in the field of bacteriology and bacterial toxins, because the toxins are
what make bacteria dangerous.
All right.
So, well, let me just take you back 50 years when I started out in science.
That was 50 years ago.
I entered the Institute of Medical Microbiology at the University of Gießen.
Now, this was a seven-story building, of which the first two stories were the bacteriologists.
The next two stories were virologists.
And then we had two stories of pharmacologists.
And there was one story about four conferences and all that.
So we were the theoretical sciences in Gießen.
And when I entered this institute, what was happening was that the virologists were on
the track of the flu virus.
So they were leading scientists in the field of the flu, influenza, in fact.
I entered the institute as the bacteriologist and immunologist because I was working on
complement.
All right.
So what I then experienced was really fantastic, because we had monthly seminars together on
the top floor where the whole building came together.
And the young scientists and the elder scientists in each field would discuss their newest research
data and results.
And it was all what it should have been, because the thing about infectious diseases is that
this is the most elusive discipline in medicine.
Why?
Because here you have so many areas convening with each other.
You have bacteriology, virology, parasitology.
All these three fields in themselves are complex enough, but they come together with cell biology,
molecular biology, gene technology, and immunology.
So it's very, very difficult to put all these six areas together to make a whole.
Not too hard to make a whole.
Six have to come together to make a whole.
And very, very few people have been privileged to go through the schooling that is needed
to get these areas together.
And these areas were just emerging in 1970.
I started in 1972.
They were just emerging.
So Watson Creek hypothesis, not hypothesis, the model that got them the Nobel Prize, of
course, was out in 1953.
Then Rodney Porter and his team in 1963 discovered this structure of antibodies, of which they
also got the Nobel Prize.
When I entered the Institute in 1972, the first bacterial toxins were being discovered
and the mechanism of action.
And the first viruses were starting to be classified and characterized, especially the flu.
At that time, immunology was absolutely in the state of infancy.
Who understood anything about immunology?
Very, very few people.
Because the antibodies had been discovered and their diversity had been discovered.
So we knew at that time that there were millions, if not billions, of antibody clones specific
for certain substances.
All right.
But what about the T lymphocytes?
What about the protection against viruses?
In 1972, Rolf Sincanagel and Doherty had not even started their studies that would unroll
the whole field.
And that would lead to their receiving the Nobel Prize in 1996.
This you have to imagine.
No one had the slightest inkling of how T cells were protecting us.
This is amazing, isn't it?
So I was one of those lucky guys who came into a building where all these people who
were researching this very exciting area were together and discussing the newest findings,
you know, on a monthly basis.
That was wonderful.
It was great.
And when I went, I was called to the chair of medical microbiology and hygiene in Mainz,
the University of Mainz.
When I went there in 1990, the department was one of the big departments of medical
microbiology in Germany and in fact in all of Europe.
And the virology sub department was part of our institute.
So my neighbor was one of the leading virologists in Germany.
And, you know, I used to be given private lessons by him.
Dieter Falker is actually now 93 years old, I believe.
He's still active.
He goes to work every day on the bike.
He's never driven a car.
All right.
And he's written books and he became my fatherly friend because he's, well, older than I am.
And I had fun talking to him and telling him the newest thing in bacteriology and immunology
because, you know, and those are very, very exciting times.
So what happened in these years was the 70s is that the political elite are into realize
that this area of infectious diseases and immunology was so novel, so difficult to understand
that it could be used and misused as a weapon in their war.
And as Charles said, we are in the Third World War now.
It's the war against us that is being driven by the political and financial elite, as we
all know now.
All right.
These guys have been looting and plundering other nations because of their superior weaponry
that they have.
It's these weapons that were invented in the West that allowed the West to go out and plunder
and loot all the other countries, the colonies.
Right.
And so they were, as we all know, by the way, let me say I've been reading up a lot on history
and I would like to share my experience with you that has been really that's changed my
life in the last years.
One of the books that I think should be compulsory reading is The Silk Roads by Peter Frankopan.
Have you seen this book, Stephen?
No?
The Silk Roads?
Yes.
No, I haven't.
Peter Frankopan is professor and chair of global history in Oxford.
And this book is one of the most brilliant books that I've ever read in my life.
This book has a follow up.
Now, the follow up is a German book.
I have to show it to you because Reiner Mausfeld is the complement of Peter Frankopan.
So he has written a book in German, Hybris and Nemesis.
It's so amazing.
Sorry, is that hubris or hybris or hybrids?
Hybris.
It's in German.
There is no English version.
It just appeared six months ago.
But these two books together put you really on the scene and on the spot of what's happening
now.
And it's very bad news.
We are really, we are really now in...
It's the end game for mankind because these people have managed to weaponize my field
to use it to take over control of the world by dividing and conquering.
This is what's being done right now.
So, you know, when all this began, the Silk Road where the Western world led by, sorry
this is England, Great Britain, of course, was the center of things.
Yeah, sorry about that.
I am so sorry.
And then Europe, the Spanish, the Portuguese and of course in America.
And America has topped everything.
Okay.
What were they doing at the beginning?
They were trafficking slaves, sugar, tobacco, narcotics, right?
Weapons, right?
And then what happened?
Gold, silver, sure.
But then what entered the scene of products that were also trafficked?
They were medicinal products and they were vaccines.
So the first medicinal product to be used against mankind was the smallpox vaccine,
which as you may know or may not know was...
There was a law that was passed, I think it was in 1853 in England, that all children
had to be vaccinated.
Did you know this Stephen?
1853 in your country.
And that was rapidly taken up by the rest of the world, especially America, especially
America.
So the third book that I think is a must read for all of you is the book by Suzanne Humphreys
and Romaine Bistranding.
Have you ever seen this book?
I can't read the title.
Oh, you can't.
Dissolving Illusions.
Okay.
This is one of the most important books to be read by everyone because what Suzanne Humphreys,
she's a doctor by the way, and you should ask her in for an interview.
I think she's available.
All right.
Can you pull this up?
Okay.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
And she tells you and us these terrible stories about the smallpox vaccination and how this
vaccination against the smallpox virus started off.
This was the big bang, you know, of the medicinal military complex.
In fact, it was the beginning of what we're seeing now.
And this compulsory vaccination against smallpox was a fraud.
The whole thing was a fraud.
It's not true that smallpox eradication has come to be because of this vaccination.
This vaccination never worked.
This is something that people don't know, but they must know.
It was a hoax.
Can I ask you, sorry, can I ask you, when did you first realize that the smallpox vaccination
was a fraud?
In particular, that when did you realize that that was a fraud?
When did you realize that?
About three years ago.
Wow.
I told you this COVID story has put me on the track because I started reading up.
You know, I was teaching all my life that vaccinations were many were good.
Maybe not, not definitely good, but not so bad.
But the bottom line message from the lectures that I gave over 40 years, I've been teaching
this for 40 years.
I entered the field 50 years ago and then I started, I became an assistant professor
40 years ago.
And my ex-students write me and say, you know, you taught us something else.
You said this.
I said, yes, true.
And I believed it at that time.
I just came to realize that I had been making a great mistake and that all of this was fraudulent
from the very beginning.
Now you have to realize that 1853 was a year, 30 years before true vaccine science was founded
by Bering.
You know Bering, what did he do?
He showed the world that you can really vaccinate against bacterial toxins, which were diphtheria
and tetanus.
Why?
Because diphtheria and tetanus toxins use the bloodstream to reach their targets and
antibodies are in the bloodstream and they can catch these, these toxins and neutralize
them.
And that's how the vaccination works.
And the vaccinations really do work.
All right.
But it has never really been shown that any vaccines work against viruses.
You know, when Roosevelt came up with his march with the dimes to create a polio vaccine,
that was also such a fraud.
It's not, nothing was ever really shown.
And the fact is that not until the end 70s did people, scientists really understand that
the antibodies would not work against viruses unless those viruses also had to disseminate
by the bloodstream to become dangerous.
Now there are very few viruses that kill you by disseminating by the bloodstream.
One, of course, is, my God, I'm sorry, I have a blackout.
Yes, which virus, Sarkarit?
Rabies, rabies.
Rabies, okay.
Okay.
You are bitten and the virus enters into the blood and that's the, and then you're going
to die.
And the vaccination against rabies really does work.
It's one of those vaccinations that does work.
Okay.
But otherwise, no.
Other viruses that disseminate by the bloodstream, such as the hemorrhagic fevers, dengue or
even yellow fever, the yellow fever stuff has never really been shown to work.
There are no studies, placebo controlled studies for any of these vaccines.
And the dengue vaccines are known to cause harm.
They killed hundreds of children.
That was many years ago in the Philippines and the Philippines fired a case against the
manufacturers, but I don't think they're coming through.
And now what's happening?
They're doing the same thing with the COVID vaccine.
They're coming in with new flu vaccines.
Flu vaccines have never worked, have never worked and will not work and cannot work.
And we've been saying this for years now that the airborne viruses that don't enter the
bloodstream cannot be stopped at the door because the door is in, it's the front door of your
house and you're sitting in the living room.
And that's where the bloodstream is.
And that's where the antibodies are.
So we do not have these antibodies against the virus.
Even if we had them, they would be overrun because the numbers are very limited.
The numbers of antibodies at on your mucosal surfaces are limited.
That's why children keep getting their cold and their coughs all during their kindergarten.
And it doesn't matter.
It's a natural feature because the not natural immunity, but the immune system is born with
the capacity to recognize.
So all children that are born today on earth are blessed with T cell clones that are ready
to go whenever the virus comes in that they recognize.
And I said this before at this meeting last year, whatever.
The one thing that hardly any doctor learns during his studies is that these clones,
antibody clones and T cell clones.
So the antibodies can recognize different toxins.
They can recognize different viruses.
True.
But they can't really protect against the viruses because they're not there.
They can protect against the toxins if the toxins go by the bloodstream.
But there are very few toxins that do this.
Therefore, the number of vaccinations in bacteriology are very, very limited.
And they will not increase because that's it.
You know, diphtheria tetanus, you don't have very much more.
And you have rabies on the other hand, but not very much more.
OK.
And everything else is fraudulent and not based on science.
How could this be?
How could it be that a whole field has left the path of science?
Well, here's another book that I recommend to all each and all of you.
Bruce Charlton.
Have any of you seen this book?
What's the name of it?
Not Even Trying.
And you can download this book.
You just go into Google, put in Bruce Charlton, put in Not Even Trying.
He was a professor.
Oh, my goodness.
In England, one of the great minds.
And he's retired.
I'm not even sure that he's still living, actually.
I've been trying to get in touch with him, but I can't.
He tells you why there is no real science anymore today.
Science has disappeared.
Real science, fact based, truth based science.
Does not exist.
And science is corrupted.
Scientists are corrupt and corrupted.
And the scientists of today have stopped being scientists.
Unfortunately, medical doctors of today, the majority have also stopped being medical doctors,
as you and I know, Steven.
We have left the path of medical ethics, hypocrisy, whatever you want.
They have no conscience.
They are so supremely self-assured.
They just are, well, what is it?
Not willing to open their minds and to rethink matters and maybe to find out whether what they believe is really true.
And they are willing to put the patients and the people of the world at risk because they themselves do not always see the risks.
They don't understand them.
They don't have the education.
They are, in fact, supremely ignorant.
Yeah.
So what happened then was that the disastrous consequence was it became possible for the elite to weaponize my field of infectious diseases for their use, for their purpose.
And that's what they're doing now.
So using fear as the major motor, they are enslaving us, enslaving the whole populace.
No one dares to say anything.
And if anyone dares to say something, they are out to destroy them.
They are out to destroy us.
Fortunately, Stephen, our numbers are exponentially growing.
Fortunately.
And so the good news I just heard gives a little bit of hope.
I will end by saying this.
I believe, as you do too, that we are at the critical stage now and we are coming to an end because, as we said before, they overestimated themselves and they did not realize how
so how extraordinarily dangerous the effects were going to be, especially of this weapon, the mRNA vaccines, that they are now going to introduce or use in all areas of medicine, as we know.
And when I heard this, I said, this will be a chance.
And I would end by saying, I would end by telling you something that is new and on which I place some hope.
You have heard the last weeks that many, many, many groups are standing up and out to say the whole authorization process for these RNA vaccines was criminal.
Because the vaccines that were used on hundreds and millions of people were not produced according to the authorized procedure, process one.
True. Process one that was authorized for use, utilized and manufactured.
So the spike gene DNA was produced via PCR in the lab.
And those vaccine batches therefore had very little DNA contamination and therefore they passed the test and they were permitted to be used.
However, the mass production of these vaccines followed process two, which used bacterial chromosomes.
So the bacteria, the bacteria were used to multiply these chromosomes.
And those chromosomes or plasmids were then used as the matrix for production of the RNA, which is copies.
And that was not the authorized process.
So by that alone, that should enable governments of the world to annul the purchase contracts and demand for the vaccine.
To annul, to annul the purchase contracts and demand the money back from Pfizer, BioNTech and Moderna.
When this came out, this was one year ago actually, when Kevin McKernan told us this, that he had found massive DNA plasmid contamination in the Pfizer vaccine vials in America.
What the European authorities said.
Do you know what they said?
They said, well, those are American backed US batches.
We don't know whether this applies to all batches in the world, especially not those in Europe or Asia or whatever.
And moreover, these findings have not been verified by anyone.
Maybe they are probably not true, fabricated.
Now, Kevin McKernan is one of the leading scientists.
All right, he doesn't fabricate things.
But so the fact is that at the same time as Kevin McKernan was underway,
there was a group of scientists in Germany associated with our association, by the way,
Ulrike Kemmerer and Vanessa Schmidt.
And they had been looking into the question of whether these BioNTech Pfizer batches in Germany will contaminate with DNA.
And they found the same.
They made the same findings as Kevin McKernan.
These findings are going to be published soon in a scientific journal.
And they are very, very important because they show that this is a global finding.
And it is now totally apparent that this plasmid bacterial chromosomal DNA will never ever.
You will never be able to completely remove it on vaccines files.
This is because the manufacturing process will not allow it to be done.
Now, the second question was then, and this is what the authorities,
regulatory authorities in Germany told us, well, even if there was some DNA, so what?
Yeah, we eat DNA, animal products every day.
There's bacterial DNA in our food.
OK, and nothing ever happens because this DNA cannot enter your cells.
But the fact is, of course, that the DNA in these vaccines is packaged in the lipid nanoparticles
and they are protected from degradation in the body.
So once they enter the bloodstream, they are protected from the virus.
So once they enter the bloodstream, they will enter the cells,
for instance, the cells lining the vessel walls, as we pointed out.
What is it? Three years ago, was it, Stephen?
It was February of 2021.
That's three years ago.
In the letters to the EMA, you mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, extraordinary.
Good that we wrote those letters, Socrates.
Stephen, I'm going to show you a book, OK?
My autobiography.
Oh, brilliant.
Yeah.
The Path to Truth.
It's only in German because I haven't found any English publisher yet.
Oh, well, I can introduce you to an American publisher.
I don't mind.
On page 117, I tell the story of this open letter to the EMA and say,
Mike Eden and Stephen Frost were the two who started all of this.
It's on page 117.
That was the beginning of Doctors for Covid Ethics.
OK, I tell all these stories in this book about, you know.
And Socrates, just a moment.
Merv is showing your book there on the screen, Corona, Falser, Arm, that you wrote.
Yeah.
That's a wonderful book, by the way.
Everyone should read that.
Yeah, that was out in May 2020.
I'd like to ask him, has anything changed since you've written this?
Yes, we've been censored.
Look, we've been censored.
So this book is not taking off anywhere because no one knows of its existence.
OK.
And when that Corona, Falser, Arm was translated into English and appeared as the English version
in October 2020, we had added one chapter on the vaccination and the vaccines and the danger of
the vaccines.
So the English version has one extra chapter that points to the dire dangers of the vaccines.
Now, what happened to that English book?
It shot off in October, so the sales were going up very nicely.
And then in November, it suddenly disappeared from the market.
You couldn't find it anymore in Amazon.
And so the publisher, Chelsea Green, asked Amazon, why has the book been taken off your list?
And the answer that we received, this book represented a danger to national security.
And that was time where everything lit up and we knew the truth.
We knew that this was a military industrial complex.
Military national security has to be protected because there's a chapter on the dangers of the
vaccine.
Wasn't that nice?
So what then happened was that Kevin McKernan's findings were belittled and thrown away, although
they were reproduced in Canada by Speicher.
Now, what our girls have done, our two lady scientists were just brilliant.
They took cells, human cells, and immersed these cells in the vaccine.
And they found, and these are the first experiments that have ever been done, that the human cells
immediately took up the vaccines and the DNA and the chromosomes and the chromosomes.
Bacterial chromosomes entered the cells and these cells immediately started making the spike
protein in horrendous quantity.
And they have quantified this.
They have shown what happens to the spike protein, that it is stable, that it is shed into the
blood, into the circulation.
They have shown that they can measure this in the blood.
They can measure this anywhere, actually.
And they have shown that the plasmid and the spike production goes on for many, many days.
We're trying to find the limit right now.
All right.
And this is being put on paper.
It's going to become a fact that is going to be made known to the world because the
uptake of a foreign chromosome into your cell equates with nothing less than genetic modification.
It equates.
So these guys have been genetically modifying millions of human beings.
Do you want to allow this to happen?
Continue to happen?
If not, demand an instant moratorium.
These vaccines have all got to be stopped until unless these guys, these manufacturers and the
governments, the regulatory authorities, can guarantee to the people of the world that they
are not going to be genetically modified.
And they will never do that.
They can't.
It's impossible.
So I think the next parts are going to be very interesting months once these papers are out.
The last thing I want to tell you is, you know, these modified RNAs and the plasmids don't even
have to necessarily cause becoming inserted into the human chromosome.
As long as they act and function within the cell for extended time periods, the cell is
genetically modified.
Right?
So because it's a foreign chromosome and that alone must be enough to put all these people behind
bars if they keep on doing it, including the politicians.
You may say, well, that sounds terrible.
Could it be even worse if anyone could show chromosomal integration of fragments of those
into the book of life?
Because the book of life has so many recipes, the book of life.
And if something comes to lie beside the book of life, which happens whenever a cell divides,
all right, these chromosomes and chromosomal fragments will come to lie within the nucleus
and integration can take place.
And once integration takes place in a page of your book of life, that page cannot be read
anymore.
Now, we all know how many pages are important.
We don't know.
There are innumerable pages important for the control of cell division, differentiation,
tumor suppression.
If any one of those pages gets smeared, that page will not be read.
Now, if you go around asking why in God's name are all these tumors exploding all over
the world, I don't know.
But chromosomal integration would be one very, very viable explanation.
So what did our girls do?
They sent their human cells that had been transfected to Kevin McKernan, begging the
question, Kevin, can you find any chromosomal integration of bacterial DNA in the human
cells chromosomes?
Do you know the answer?
He put it up in his sub stack one week ago.
And the answer is yes.
He's found it.
Outrageous.
It's not outrageous.
It's good.
Now, it's they who are going to put on the run.
Now they are in for it.
If they keep on pressing this, even your UK government, even your premier, what's his
name, Sunak, I think he's an Indian as far as I know.
Rishi Sunak.
He better watch out.
And I met with Andrew Bridgen a few days ago and I think that Andrew is going to use this
information because all of you can use it now.
All of you.
I will be speaking to Thailand in two days.
And I'm going to tell them this and say, now is the time to act.
I think I want to close now.
If you have any questions.
Do we have questions?
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, for sharing those resources and and
congratulations on the courage that you have demonstrated to all of us over the last four
years.
Many people here have been similar.
Many people here are similar like you.
But you have been an inspiration to many people who didn't come on board straight away.
But you saw it.
So congratulations.
As you know, Stephen goes, we've got lots of hands up and Stephen goes for the first
15 minutes and then we've got lots of other hands.
So Stephen Frost over to you.
And again, well done, Stephen, for getting Sukrit to speak to us.
Yes, so great.
I've got so many questions, but I don't know which are the most important.
So it's important that I try to trust my judgment as to which is the most which are the most
important because I've not got time for them all.
But could you could you give kind of one minute answers otherwise?
If you can do that, so if you try, then just say so, because there are lots of people who
want to ask questions.
So I wanted to ask you about HIV and AIDS.
Is that important in the history of what's gone on in the false narrative which has been
created, which HIV AIDS possibly allowed to be created in 2020?
And it took why was HIV the fraud of HIV AIDS?
Why was that so important?
If you think it's important.
I think it was very important because, you know, Fauci was behind all of this and is behind
is behind the present agenda as well.
I regard Fauci as the greatest.
No, I will not say this because if I do this, I'll, you know, be put in jail or something
or murdered.
I have no words to express what I feel for Fauci.
And the trouble is, you see, Fauci graduated in 1964.
So he had never had any inkling of immunology.
Fauci is a fake.
Oh, I think I can say this without being imprisoned for this.
And I have challenged him to come forth and debate with us openly.
Anytime, any place in the world.
Of course, he never answered.
But all of this, you see, in the 80s was a rehearsal of what may be possible.
It was the same time that the flu was coming to the fore as a really excellent candidate
for a pandemic and for vaccination.
You know, so that's how it is.
And you see, it doesn't make any sense to me as a doctor that that they should be so
interested in flu.
Why did it occur?
Did it occur to you that it was odd that they were, as you said in 1972 when you entered
that building, as I understood it, you said that they were very interested in the flu.
Yes, but they were one of the leading groups.
Actually, I went to Houston a few years later, it was 1976, but in 1972 I was at the Max
Planck.
The flu thing was very convenient for these guys because the flu antigens, the flu antigens
the flu antigens, the hands of the flu.
You know, there's this thing called antigenic drift.
The hand can change confirmation slightly to get a better grip on a handle.
But the flu differs from all other viruses in having the genes present in segmented form.
So there's one gene, one segment of the flu gene that is responsible for the hand, one
segment that is responsible for the head or the body.
And the thing is that if two flu viruses get into one cell, they can exchange gene segments.
So hands can be changed.
The hands can be changed.
And this causes a huge change of confirmation.
So that is the antigenic shift.
And this was being discovered in Gieson when I was there.
And these guys became world famous.
And they said, what we need to do is we have to have vaccines that immediately see whether
a shift has taken place.
Now, all this was very theoretically theoretical and it made sense to me, but it turned out
not to be right in the end.
I don't want to go into detail about that.
But the thought that you needed to oversee how viruses were being changed or changing
with the flu as an example made its way into the other areas and other viruses like Corona.
Now, the Corona virus can't do that.
It never has an antigenic shift.
But they used the recognition coming from the flu field to say, look, there might be
a completely new Corona virus coming up, which is impossible because the Corona virus can't
shift.
It doesn't have a segmented genome.
So it was a lie from the very beginning.
And that's why I stood up in March 2020 to try to tell the world about this.
It wasn't true.
And the immunity against Corona viruses is based primarily, almost exclusively on the
T cells.
And the T cells will always recognize related Corona viruses.
There's no way around this.
Every child is born with these T cell phones.
So, still great.
Can I ask you, was there a pandemic?
Yes or no?
No, it's not my opinion.
It's no.
There never was a pandemic.
Was there a disease called COVID-19 satisfactorily diagnosed according to your training as a
medical student?
No, never ever.
Absolutely.
So people say, when I say that, they say, oh, I had COVID-19.
How did they know?
Well, exactly.
They don't know.
They say I lost my sense of taste and smell for months on end.
I had long COVID.
I think there was no such disease as COVID-19.
I don't know about that.
I know now.
Now, wait, stop, Stephen.
I do suspect there was a disease because it's, I believe in the SARS-CoV-2.
I believe it does exist.
I'm not a virus non-believer.
I believe that viruses exist.
And I'm absolutely sure that this virus was created in the Wuhan lab.
I'm sure that it was, I think it was free on purpose, which I rather suspect.
All right.
And I suppose that I would suspect New York, the New York outbreak to be one of the locations
because it's so easy to spread a virus.
You know, you can't spread it over a large area, but in towns like New York, it's easy.
Okay.
And you can really get it going.
And I do think that this virus, this SARS-CoV virus, is a gain-of-function virus.
It is more dangerous than the non-manipulated virus.
It's all been done on purpose.
So we agree, I think, that the whole thing was a fraud, that this pandemic did not justify
any of the measures that they said were necessary, not just in one country, but all the countries
using the same phrases.
So it was clearly planned.
It was clearly planned.
And so I'm very suspicious that the whole thing about gain-of-function is actually just
a story to weaponize fear against human beings.
No.
Well, how do we know, Sir Chris?
We know it from the sequence.
I mean, there are sequences in this virus that tell you that they've been put there
because they would cause a gain-of-function.
And this is true.
I don't think I want to go into the details.
I understand.
Yeah.
So, Sir Chris, so if COVID-19 was correctly diagnosed, you would agree that the PCR...
I'm not doubting you, Sir Chris.
I just want to talk about this.
So the PCR test, we agree, I think, that it was fraudulent.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So how was COVID-19 diagnosed?
There was not a single symptom, as far as I could see, that was pathognomonic for COVID-19.
No, not really.
So do you see what I mean?
Yes, I know what you mean, Stephen.
Look, this thing about loss of taste and smell is rather pathognomonic.
Rather.
Not totally, but rather.
And it has been noted, and I take it seriously, all right?
But otherwise, there's nothing else.
Otherwise, there is nothing else.
And...
Yes, very good.
So, Chris, can deadly viruses cause a pandemic?
So you've got this interplay between transmissibility and virulence, or virulence and transmissibility.
And so a deadly virus, we were taught at medical school, and I remembered it,
but all the people I qualified with can't remember it, apparently, because I challenged them,
and nobody replied to me.
No, but I'm completely with you.
No, the artist, no.
And that's what we also wrote in our books.
So, Sukrit, this is really important, because if deadly viruses can't cause a pandemic
because they're not sufficiently transmissible, because they kill the host,
then is it possible that no viruses, if we believe in viruses, let's say we do,
that no viruses can cause a pandemic of concern?
So, because if that's the case, and they've just created the fear out of nowhere,
then the importance of it is that no pandemic can occur in the future,
which is of importance to human beings.
Absolutely.
I'm with you.
Listen, depending on what pandemic is defined as, up to 2009, a pandemic was the global spread,
or spread over many continents, of a deadly virus, all right, of a dangerous deadly virus.
There has been no pandemic for, well, I don't know whether we can...
Has there ever been one, Sukrit, with hindsight?
Well, I think 1918 maybe.
All right.
1918 maybe, but there were so many other things that were happening in 1918.
Formal abilities, as we all know, after the war.
Anyway, but otherwise, no.
In fact, a pandemic will never occur.
Never.
The only thing you have to do, if there is something very dangerous,
is to isolate that patient, Stephen, as we both know.
You're an expert on infectious diseases, Sukrit.
I think we can all agree on that.
And you're also a medical doctor, so you understand what it's like to be a doctor.
So, a doctor's duty, in my opinion, is to diagnose correctly
and also to ease the passage from birth to death of mere human beings.
Ease the passage, not to cure them of things, you know, maybe they can cure by accident.
But I don't believe all this nonsense.
This human hubris, I think it is.
But, and now I can't remember what...
I haven't got any comments on what I've just said.
No, it's fine.
So, let's...
Yes, could you explain virulence and transmissibility?
Or do you feel that you have already done that?
To the audience?
Virulence is the degree of pathogenicity,
meaning that it's measured in animal experiments.
So, you have to find out how many viruses and how many bacteria will kill an animal.
And the less you need, the higher the virulence.
The transmissibility is just how easily do you contact,
do you get infected with something like the sniffles, the coronavirus.
It's very transmissible.
When you sneeze and cough, you transmit the virus, and that's very good.
So, we had the Delta variants and we had the Alpha variants in the UK.
But they're all, they're all undangerous.
Exactly.
But the interesting thing was, they tried to close down the UK
for the second Christmas running in 2021, going into 2022.
And they did it because...
So, Chris Witty was the medical officer of health for the UK.
I don't know what he was thinking.
Well, a lot of doctors saw what he was saying and they believed it,
but I didn't believe it because he was talking about transmissibility.
But he didn't know anything about anything.
Without ever once mentioning virulence.
Why don't you throw him out?
Absolutely.
Well, yes, I was shouting at the television, but I agree with you.
So, I wanted to, yes, but the point is that the people listening won't understand this.
So, he was arguing that the high transmissibility of the SARS-CoV-2 virus
was a reason for closing down the UK for the second Christmas running
with all the consequences of that.
Yeah, well, if you put this sort of person in this position, it's your own fault.
Oh, but, Sukrit, I am put in there.
He's just an absolute idiot.
But anyway, thank you so much, Sukrit, for answering the questions so patiently.
Well done, well done, Stephen.
Good series of questions.
Sukrit, look at all these hands up.
All these people want to speak with you.
I don't see people.
I can't see anyone.
Oh, there's two, four, six, eight, thirteen hands up to speak to you.
So, there you are.
And we'll start with Gerry Waters from Ireland.
You already spoke to him earlier.
Hi, Sukrit.
I am six or seven years younger than you, six years younger than you.
So, that I'm running sort of six years in my profession behind you.
I, unlike you, I didn't go into research or I didn't go into any sort of academia that
I spent 40 years as a GP.
So, you might say I wasted my years seeing 300,000 patients.
So, I have a different view from you, perhaps a different world view.
You and I were in college when we were influenced or I was influenced by global cooling.
If you remember, when I was in University College Galway, we were told that the planet
was cooling and they were talking in terms of spreading soot and coal dust on the Arctic
to try and heat up the planet.
Yes.
And then a few years later, do you remember this or were you aware of this?
Yes.
And then they did a quick switch to global warming.
I believe that these people are in effect the same people that are, I know, I think
it stands to reason, these are the same people who are in effect conducting the coal.
Sure.
The world population.
Yes.
If they couldn't manage to starve us out or they would try and starve the third world
out through replacing fossil fuels by ineffective other methods, they will endeavour to try
and, so I think to an extent they decided to kill off the western world with the vaccine.
Not only the western.
Yeah, well, I know, but I think they could probably have taken care, they could take
care of the third world through corruption and bribery and destroying the people through
starvation.
Anyway, so what I'm saying is these people, I believe, learned a lesson when over the
last 30 years there was a divergence between their modelling and reality.
They obviously couldn't, you know, when the modelling and reality over 30 years just didn't
coincide anymore, they decided to change from global warming, the planet wasn't warming,
anything like they said it would, to global, to climate change.
I believe then when they decided to go with the Covid hoax, and in 2020 I was a GP, February,
March 2020, I was a GP and refused to mask, I refused to social distance, I stated I was going
to see and examine every one of my patients, got a 100% success rate with my Covid patients,
wouldn't send people for a PCR test, they went and got PCR tests anyway, but I got a 100%
success rate doing what I'd done for the previous 40 years.
I didn't have to use any magic special drugs.
So what I'm saying is when they realised that the divergence between the models that they
had projected for global warming didn't coincide with the reality, this time they decided to
change reality.
So rather than they projected, we had Joanne Ferguson from Oxford University, was it,
projecting numbers and they decided to fit the reality into the projection.
And they did that fundamentally by counterfeiting and misrepresenting the debts.
All we were told here in Ireland on the 27th of March to certify elderly debts, the normal
elderly debts, we do about 600 a week in Ireland, 32,000 a year, and we were told to certify
those as Covid debts on the basis of the PCR test.
And we were also told that even if we didn't have a positive PCR test, we were to certify
those, there was a suggestion of Covid.
Now this brings me back to the idea that there are some symptoms peculiar to Covid.
As a GP, there are absolutely not.
The idea that the loss of sense of smell is peculiar to Covid, it is not.
It is very, very common in many, many viral infections, upper respiratory tract and viral
infections.
The problem with the sense of smell, it's unique in that you don't often miss it.
And you don't miss it until such time as your attention is drawn to it.
When your attention is drawn to the fact that you've lost a sense of smell, then you start
smelling things.
But it's very easy to lose your sense of smell and not realise it, unlike your sight or your
hearing or your sense of touch.
So anosmia is the only sense you can lose or alter without realising.
So that I would disagree on.
So I would say, like Stephen, I would say there was no pathogenic virus in most of the world.
I would also believe, as JJ Coohey says, that there was in effect a seeding into certain
pivotal points, like New York City, of the virus.
And Stephen was asking about diagnosis.
Of course you can diagnose various different viral infections on the basis of antibody tests.
So in effect, quite apart from the PCR test.
But I believe that you can actually identify viruses on the basis of their RNA sequencing,
as you were saying.
So, sorry, what I'm saying fundamentally is, I think what they did, they endeavoured to
twist reality to suit their projections, their computer and their model projections.
I agree with you.
There's nothing I disagree upon.
Yeah, I know that.
I just make the point that we have to work this through.
And we cannot win a battle for truth by telling half-truths.
It is massively important that we stick to the concept of the pathogenicity of the virus.
And then go from there on to the vaccines and the gene therapy assaults.
So fundamentally what I'm saying is, you know...
I agree.
No points of disagreement.
Thank you.
So basically, to answer Stephen's question from GP's point of view, there definitely
was.
Was there a pandemic of a virus?
You can call it what you like.
You call it COVID-19.
You can call it...
Was there a coronavirus circulating in the community?
Yes, there was.
Was there a gain of function?
I would say there was in certain areas a virus with a gain of function that had been produced
in a laboratory.
I would say that.
But I would say the gain of function was in effect in the direction of transmissibility
rather than in virulence because it'd be a damn stupid thing to increase the virulence.
Let it out there because your own family and the people you didn't want targeted could
get the virulent virus.
So I would say logically it had a gain of function for transmissibility, but not necessarily
a gain of function for increased virulence.
Okay.
Thank you, Jerry.
We've got to keep moving.
We've got a lot of hands up and we've got to run out of time.
Okay.
Thanks very much.
Thank you, Jerry.
Amy.
Hi, Dr. Bakhti.
I'm very, very appreciative of your work and you and your wife's very early book was very
helpful for people trying to stand up and not having a lot of support.
So even though I never met you, you guys getting the book out early was very helpful.
I appreciate that.
My quick question is, or maybe it's not, is are we passively being exposed to the GMO?
And then my difficult question is, are you looking into the way that Germany is still
an occupied country and by the United States?
But the United States is also an occupied country and about the history of how that
happened and I would really recommend the work of E. Michael Jones, who talks about
the Holocaust narrative and how that's used to silence people and to force support for
Israel.
And like we see what's happening in Gaza right now, we're able to do nothing about this
broad daylight slaughter and starvation of people, children, women in the hundreds of
thousands probably by now.
So anyway, those are my two questions and thank you and God protect you.
Thank you so much, Imes.
Now, I'm aware of these formal political issues, but I haven't really delved deep into
them because they are outside my field.
That is the point.
I feel that the whole world is in such a terrible situation.
It's of course, all complex of operations that are intertwined and they are there to
solve the financial crisis, to introduce the digital world to mankind.
I know of all this, but I have to leave this up to other guys to take care of.
And then of course, this whole thing is also linked up to the 5G and the wars that are
being fueled, I'm sorry to say, by the West, by America and Western Europe, including of
course, the once great Britain.
I'm sorry about all of this, but I'm afraid I can't do very much about it.
I can't do anything about it.
I'm an onlooker now.
But Sucrith, can you, so I think people are desperate for leadership at the moment, partly
because they don't like taking responsibility, they're afraid of taking responsibility and
they're desperately looking around for leadership and you are a leader.
You led me out of the nonsense of 2020 and I was able to actually come to a conclusion in
December 2020 about what had happened.
And I can share that with you.
I sent it to the Lancet because they had published two massive letters about Julian L'Asange
for me and people working with me.
And I thought that they would accept the COVID-19 letter, but of course they didn't.
That was Richard Horton.
Yeah, but still, Stephen, I'm rather at the end of my possibilities, you know.
Yes, but Sucrith, people look to you.
You talk very wisely.
You've lived, you know about Thailand, you know about Germany and you know a lot about the UK
and America, it sounds like.
So I think your value to people is that you sound like a very wise man and people need
your advice at the moment because they don't know who to trust.
And I know they can trust you.
So that's really.
I'm here today and do what I can.
Sure.
All right.
I'd just like you to consider that the United States is an occupied country as well.
And Germany is clearly an occupied country.
So just be careful when you say the West, who in the West, we're also occupied like the
Palestinians.
So if you're not aware of that, I think it would be good to look into it.
I think you would understand it very easily about like what happened to the America first
movement in the United States who tried to stop the intervention in World War One, World War
Two, these kinds of things.
It's really important to understand why people in the United States feel we have no say over
our Congress.
OK, Amy, we'll take that.
We'll take that as a comment rather than a question.
Thank you.
Julie.
Hey, thank you so much.
Hi, Dr. Bakhti.
It's a real pleasure and honor to meet you.
I'm over here in northern California, so I want you to know you've had a big impact on
me, sir.
And it was interesting to hear you talk about being, you know, red pilled just three years
ago.
And I was the same.
I was a public health worker.
So I was fully vaccinated, vaccinated my kids, my dogs, the whole thing.
And then I got injured by the two shots of Moderna and my eyes were wide open.
And here I am spitting fire and fighting mad here, pounding sand.
And I too was like you.
I wanted to know the history.
So you mentioned this eighteen fifty three smallpox vaccine.
And I had dug into a lot of newspaper articles from over in the UK in the eighteen hundreds.
And I tell you, they were fascinating.
They actually I mean, they did not vaccinate these children with the syringe.
It's horrifying.
They literally like hooked up, you know, infected cows or goats to tubes and ran that blood
into the kids.
It was terrific.
And I also was, you know, I found stories of doctors being locked up because they were
falsifying vaccine records and parents whose kids were yanked out of their homes for refusing
the vaccine.
And I sat there and went, my God, one hundred and seventy years ago.
And here we are.
Doctors getting locked up.
Same place, right?
That's what I was trying to say.
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
And I am one of the things that I do to contribute to this movement is I advocate and I speak
to the you know, for the victims and I go into theirs, which is our vaccine adverse
event system, and I read victim statements.
So when you were covering the Thailand story of Her Highness, I did a podcast of all the
victims and bears from Guam and Micronesia.
So it's in the link to that's in the chat.
But my question for you is, can you give an update on the vaccine?
Can you give an update on Her Royal Highness?
How is she doing?
And is Thailand still giving these vaccine injections, even though the King of Thailand
had a big old meltdown?
What's the status there?
Thank you so much.
There is no official information on the princess.
So I can't answer that question.
Thailand is now experiencing a pushback from scientists, physicians and the ruling elite
themselves.
So there is a growing resistance.
And I'm going to have a meeting with these people on Tuesday, because they are on the
verge of doing what I've been saying all along, which is to annul the purchase contract with
Pfizer and demand return of the money to take care of the victims of this vaccination.
That's what I'm trying to do at the moment.
OK, thank you.
Thank you, Julie.
All right.
So everybody, please.
Not too many broad statements because we've got a lot of hands up.
Is a real balance, I promise you, as a moderator, because the background of what you want to
talk about relates to the question.
But this is a Q&A.
But sometimes you need to explain where you're coming from, but make them as short as possible.
Benjamin, you're next.
Thank you very much for all your work.
Just as a brief introduction, I'm a physicist, so I'm not a medical person.
But I think what you said about science and the university and how could this happen?
I don't know whether you have internal answers, but I have my conjecture.
And then I'm curious what you think about it, namely that research has since, you know,
decade, two decades or so, you know, universities rely on external funding money.
And these are most agencies.
And of course, in the medical field, you know, it's like the contrast and so on.
And then you have this feedback loop, you know, that you inject the money, you set the
those who give the money, they set the agenda and then you publish in journals.
And these journals are not always, you know, you know, as you as Stephen said before, with a
they have their own agenda because they also get money.
And then essentially by that, you know, science cannot function anymore.
And the second thing is, which you also mentioned, I think, you know, people or I think Jerry
said this from Ireland, that you, you know, given computer simulations, this is a big
temptation for science because with computer simulations, you can actually turn out papers,
you know, almost.
So so this is like the productivity in quote increases and therefore the standing of a
scientist increases because it's measured by citations and so forth.
So which gives you weight to computer simulations in modern science.
And this is extremely dangerous.
I see it in physics as well that, you know, it's just not, you know, it doesn't it actually
has this effect of stalling science.
So so then with these observations, I think, you know, you you actually, you know,
essentially you lose the very aspect of science, which actually by answering questions, which
are of relevance for society by the creative mind of people, because they are sort of they
are actually put into a straight jacket by all of this system.
So that's that's the thing.
And a second comment, which I just before you answer a second comment is that I actually
I looked into COVID statistics because I have a background in data analysis.
So I'm actually mainly a mathematician.
And what I saw is maybe, you know, something about that as well, that in Switzerland at the
end of 2022, there were measurements in wastewater plants.
And over a weekend, the whole test strategy was switched from essentially testing the
unvaccinated to testing the vaccinated.
And I can just show you that the graph, which then emerged is the following.
I hope you can actually see it.
So maybe I should.
Yeah, it's kind of hard.
It doesn't focus.
So anyway, so what you see is that the curve.
And so essentially in the wastewater plant, which averages over the population, everything
is flat.
And the PCR tests shows a so-called wave exactly throughout the window of this testing
phase of the vaccinated ones.
So it shows that the combination of vaccines and tests are utterly or I mean, are utterly
nonsensical.
So and I mean, it's one graphics which shows this and it's all over Switzerland.
It's in all, you know, South, North, East, West in all possible cities.
So it doesn't depend on that.
So I think it's a very striking demonstration of that.
So if you're ever looking for something, so I'm happy to provide you with data.
But now I'm curious to what you think about them and about science and this unfortunate
feedback loop, which there is in the role of.
Like it's very easy.
My answer is I'm completely with you.
Absolutely.
And that is what is also in this book.
Not even trying.
You lay it out exactly as you say.
It's all correct.
The other thing about the testing and PCR I did not know of.
You see, whenever I see anything about the testing, I just throw it away because I don't
believe the tests.
I don't think that that's why I had no comment.
So Hans Benjamin is a professor of theoretical physics and he is a brilliant expert on the
Nord Stream pipeline explosions with his own research not funded by anyone.
Good.
And of course he knows who did it.
Well, yes.
And how they did it.
Nuclear explosion.
Thank you.
Was it 11 different ways you proved it Hans Benjamin?
I believe you absolutely.
I cannot have been many other things.
All right.
Thank you.
Many other things.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you Benjamin.
Thank you.
Hello Dr. Bhakli.
I'm uniquely linked with a variety of personnel inside the US government, especially inside
the Intel.
They are classified and therefore not allowed to speak in general or go on camera or on
audio anywhere.
So I'm a conduit.
I'm very interested in what you described for what you believe is very strong evidence
of fraud that was committed by some combination of the FDA and the vaccine manufacturers.
If you could be specific around the points of information and the personnel that hold
it, I believe I can gather that together and have a significant and rather much more rapid
impact than anyone might believe.
Well, I would ask you to send me your contact data and we will correspond.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
So, Stephen, or I can organize for you to do that.
No dramas.
Well done.
Anders.
Immuted Anders.
Okay.
Hello Dr. Bhakli.
I'm not a medical doctor.
I started with a kind of bias about a year and a half ago or so that I thought that the
vaccine was the main cause of the deaths and injuries.
And I am from Norway.
I now live in a local community.
I lived a long time in Poland and in a city.
And what I found in Norway in the beginning of 2023 when I analyzed the history by statistical
analysis based on all course mortality and state data is that there was a huge variation
in excess mortality in rural and metro, let's say populations.
I found the same in Canada, in USA, in California.
And then I connected to some specialist which then made me aware of the risk of the 5G
radiation.
As you know, a lot of people had magnetic arm at the place of the injection.
It appears that a lot of people have been misinformed on the content of the vaccines.
They include not only this liquid nanoparticle which is PEG and synthetic made positively
charged particles as revealed by Caron Kingston and others, but also graphene quantum dots of
different metals which are highly, let's say magnetic.
And what I found in Norway, California, USA, Canada is the correlation.
There is almost no excess death in the rural community which got the disease.
But did not have 5G vaccination, 5G.
And that was very strong in California in rural versus metro, in New York City versus
upstate.
And I just wonder, have you considered that all of these historical so-called virus and
the mias which started in 1890, 1918, 1957, 1968 at San Francisco, California, and then
in the same time, 2010, 2015, 2018, 2020, all of them are correlated to launches of new
strong radiation?
And are you familiar with the work of Dr. Beverly Rubik who has pointed out that there is a
complete correlation or the so-called symptoms of COVID-19 and long COVID all are the same.
What is claimed to come from a virus which is a standard from radiation damage.
And finally, are you aware of that the VU et al. nature publication 3rd of February 2020 was
fake?
There is no identification of SARS COVID virus ever.
Oh, many points.
I don't think that I can start discussing the question of variance in excess mortality
here because that is a really long story and complicated.
I don't think it depends on one thing.
I do not exclude the 5G is playing a role, but I do not think that it is the sole reason.
The graphene oxide data, I have to tell you, has not been reproduced by leading German
chemists who have looked at the vials in Germany.
And when they tell me that they have not been able to find the graphene oxide, I have to
believe them because they are professors and chair of chemistry departments here.
They really know what they're talking about.
Things get very, very, very confusing when different findings are put together to a
single concept.
You see, like this magnetic findings, which are obviously were true at some time.
There's another explanation for that, you know, because in one way of manufacturing
these mRNA articles is that you fish them out with magnets.
So you attach little magnets to them, fish them out, and then you have to remove the
magnets.
And it could just as well be that in those charges at the beginning, they failed to
remove the magnets, you see.
And so that's why they were magnetized.
But this has nothing to do with the other findings.
And I can tell you that this excess mortality study has also been done in Thailand, where
they looked at rural provinces and cities.
And indeed, in the rural provinces, the excess mortality was less, but it was there.
There was no doubt about it.
And the reason could be rather trivial.
The reason could be rather trivial.
The highest excess mortality was in Bangkok.
And the fact is that these lipid nanoparticles are very unstable.
So if you don't store them at minus 60 or minus 70 degrees, as they are stored in
Bangkok, because Bangkok is the center of the country where all the medicinal
departments have these storage possibilities that they don't have in the rural areas.
It is now known that those lipid nanoparticles will spontaneously decay after very short
periods so that these people were protected by the decayed lipid nanoparticles.
Luckily, however, we have horrible cases of young people dead and dying in the rural
areas as well.
So that's all I wanted to say, because otherwise, you know.
One short follow up.
What amazed me in the findings I made, 2000 hours or so, is that the oldest age group,
80 plus, were those who had the lowest excess mortality, especially in the rural places.
And that is consistent with that they use much less mobile phones, etc.
While the 65 to 79 had the highest and they have a combination of high use and weaker
immune system by a lower vitamin D level.
Do you have a comment to those?
Oh, it could be.
It could be.
All right.
Thank you, Anders.
John.
Great to hear from you, Dr. Bhakhti.
I'm a big fan of you and your passion.
I've been listening to you for quite some time.
Although I haven't heard you speak lately, so it's great to have you here.
Since you were on the subject of books, I wanted to ask you, have you obtained or read
the Private Science of Louis Pasteur?
No, not yet.
It's on the list.
Great.
Because I know that it's rather revealing, I'm afraid to say.
Yeah.
Are you familiar with the work of Charles Rochers?
No.
Most people aren't.
I wrote a book on him and I will put it in the chat.
You can download it.
It's literally 30 pages long.
The rest of it's just evidence.
Read this.
This is very important.
He explains that you cannot introduce alien foreign proteins intravenously without provoking
anaphylaxis.
So my book was COVID vaccines and induced anaphylaxis.
It's just a medical thesis.
But everything you need to know about Charles Rochers, you can learn from listening to his
Nobel Prize acceptance speech on anaphylaxis in 1913.
So I would just kind of look that up.
I'll put the book here in the chat for you.
This book got stomped out really quick by everybody just like yours did because it was on point.
Also, I want to just ask, when you began speaking, you mentioned these six areas and how the
collaboration wasn't really there.
I mean, of those areas that you mentioned, how many of them would you say are solidly
built and which ones are lacking foundationally?
Like consensus based on unproven assumptions.
Oh dear.
I don't think I should generalize on this.
I won't press it.
I was just...
No, no.
This is not something I want to answer in one minute.
No.
Okay.
All right.
Never mind.
I'll just leave you to think about that.
That's really where I attack.
I attack the foundations of things because everything that follows from it, somebody
mentioned that in the chat.
Everything that follows from a faulty assumption is faulty by design.
Sure.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's all I have.
Thanks for everything.
So John, have you put the Charles Rochet link into the chat or you will put it in the chat?
I put a link to my book there.
You can download that for free.
Great.
Thank you.
By the way, Sukhoi, can you see that there's still 86 people on this call?
Are you on your phone or on your laptop?
No, laptop.
Laptop.
86, I don't see the number.
So have you changed your view because you can see there's still two, four, seven, eight
hands up.
Charles, can I add something?
Real quick.
I'm sorry.
I forgot.
This was something that I wanted you to see.
Dr. Bhakta put the link in here.
This is a very good presentation that actually explains radiation's effect on actin.
And as a result, it's effect on cell division.
So it's an experiment with both pulse modulated frequency and steady state continuous wave
exposure.
And the former destroys actin filaments and the latter proliferates them, but to the detriment.
So in one case, you're inhibiting cell division.
And in the other case, you're just creating an aberrant cell, which is basically cancer.
They can't divide.
So I just wanted you to see that.
Not many people know this.
It took me a while to find that.
OK, so John, Sukrit, I'll get you the chat with all of the links later.
But just in terms of the view so that you can see all the smiling faces looking at you,
if you go to the top right corner, if you change your view, perhaps to gallery,
you have an option to change view.
I can't manage this.
Just click on view, Sukrit, and then click on gallery to the left.
And you'll be able to see all the people who are admiring you.
It's all right.
I can't manage this.
Sorry.
All right.
Don't worry.
You'll be able to see it on.
You'll be able to see yourself on the recording.
We're all here admiring you and your work.
So on we go.
Thank you, John.
Mark, where have you gone?
Thank you.
There you are.
Good.
I'm here.
Hi, Charles.
Professor Bhakti, I was looking at the adverse events on the prototype product and under
blood and lymphatic system disorders, lymph endopathy comes up under uncommon.
However, when the product, the second product, the P2 was then retested when they did the
booster trials, it came out under the same heading as uncommon, but it had a suffix at
the end.
And when I read the suffix, it actually showed that the adverse events for that particular
disorder was increased by 13 times.
It was in fact 5.2 percent.
And whereas before it was 0.4 percent.
Were you aware of that?
And could that be a problem that people are having with their lymphatic systems?
Oh, no, I don't look at any details because I don't know.
All this had to be feared.
You know, and when we wrote all of this years ago, we said that there are going to be tremendous
problems with the lymphatic system.
It's clear.
And I've written quite often on this.
So there's nothing that would surprise me.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mark.
Here's Roger.
Roger from Canada, Roger Hodkinson.
I'm sure you know him.
Sukrit.
Yes.
Hello, Sukrit.
Hello, Roger.
My God.
Fantastic.
Fantastic talk.
Every time I listen to you, it's a big education and I appreciate it.
Lay language.
I need that.
Nothing's too scientific for me.
A thought, not original, trying to connect the dots in terms of how we got here.
I reject totally the idea of this being an intentional genocide.
Correlation does not equal causation, et cetera, et cetera.
But I heard this theory recently from Harvey Risch, a renowned epidemiologist at Yale.
And it was this.
The whole essence of gain of function research is based upon what's called the double use
hypothesis, double use.
The idea is to have the capability of monitoring what's going on and the absurd idea of being
advance of a mutating virus.
We all know that's ridiculous.
But the double use really was to be able to develop a vaccine as warped species.
How we reach his theory is this, and I accept it as being very plausible.
The theory is there was not accidental release in Wuhan that we all know traveled widely.
As soon as that was realized by the D.O.D., they said to themselves, holy shit, it's got
out.
We better activate the anti-vaccine.
We better activate the other arm of why we're here, which is a vaccine as quickly as possible.
In other words, the rapid development of the vaccine was basically to cover their ass
because of having been people knowing now that they were actively involved in dual use
research to get the vaccine out, to justify the whole existence of gain of function research.
To justify the whole existence of gain of function as mad as it is.
So I just want to put that out there as a very interesting take on how this happened
without necessarily invoking genocide, which I reject for many reasons.
The other thing that I would say, Sukrit, is just this general statement about where
we are today with mankind's development.
We know absolutely nothing, essentially, about what's going on inside our heads.
And yet we can devise A.I. and put men on the moon.
The artificial creation by some mutation years ago of intelligence is going to be our demise.
We're too smart for our own good.
And mRNA vaccine technology is merely one example of that.
And when I hear about McKernan's recent discovery, it merely supports that idea.
Too smart for our own good.
We're going to annihilate ourselves with this preposterous idea that we're so smart.
Well, Roger, I do not entirely agree with you.
I don't think that there's any...
I think that this has all been planned and everything has been done with intent.
I'm not talking about genocide.
But in fact, there is mounting evidence that this RNA vaccine had already been developed in 2019
before anything had been officially declared about this virus.
And the evidence is very, very clear.
So it was full intent.
And I think that the virus was created so that the vaccine could be rolled out in this
lightning speed because you see, the fact is that this vaccine rollout and the global rollout of
vaccine has been the greatest financial takeover in the history of mankind.
What they have managed to do is they have managed to force countries to take advantage of the
handover, the taxpayers' money to the manufacturers.
That's what happened in Thailand.
Thailand bought hundreds of millions of doses from Pfizer and paid for them.
All right.
And the vaccine was made in Thailand.
So they had made millions of millions of doses from Pfizer and paid for them.
All right.
Now, whose money was that?
Was our money, of course.
And that's why they don't have anything left to take care of the hospitals, schools, the people
themselves.
And this is happening all over the world.
And successful, 100% successful.
And as you know, they're doing this now for the next vaccines.
They've already introduced these RNA vaccines into veterinary medicine without people knowing it.
And they're being sold around the world.
Thank you.
Thank you, Sukrit.
Thank you, Roger.
Mika from Netherlands.
We're going from Canada to Netherlands now.
Hi.
I'm a lawyer from the Netherlands.
And I'm very pleased to see you, Professor Bokthijt.
I listened many times to all your presentations and it was very great always what you said.
Just a small question.
There are some people who say they think that the COVID-19, the SARS-CoV was not contagious.
Like not so you could it could not infect other people.
What do you think about this?
That's nonsense.
Why do you think that?
If the virus is...
I've not seen, I'm trying to get the evidence on this, but I've never seen the evidence.
But it's claimed like it said that they say it's RNA, like PJ Cooey said it.
And there were some more.
Dave Martin.
I spoke with many people about it.
So I'm not just saying it.
This is really a point.
Either this virus exists or it does not exist.
I'm a person who believes it does exist.
It was created in the lab.
If the coronavirus exists, then of course it's contagious.
There is no coronavirus that is not contagious.
Why should there be?
Okay.
And no.
Okay.
Thank you.
Okay.
Thank you, Mika.
Kernetha, is that how we pronounce it?
You want to pronounce it, Kernetha?
You're the first Kernetha?
Yes, that's close enough.
Kernetha, you're the first.
Yes, it's Kernetha.
I'm calling, I just want you all to know, number one, that we're dealing with, I like what the young man said.
You have to go to the foundation, to the truth, that you know is the truth.
Number one.
Number two, I believe this is a great plandemic, a mass deception.
Number three, God told my daughter 17 years ago to do a movie.
It's in Amazon now.
You can see it free and to be.
It's called The Coming.
I am a Christian.
I'm a believer.
I believe that Jesus Christ is Lord.
I'm not talking about the white Catholic one.
Jesus was a black man.
See, we have to go to the foundation.
Now, I'm telling you all from doing the movie, go check out my daughter's movie.
It's called The Coming by J-O-Y, J-O-N-E-S.
I did it as a widow with five children in a foreclosed house on government assistance with no money.
We worked on this movie for 16 years, 100% based on the word of God.
You can see it free in Amazon.
It's based on the word of God all through and through.
We're dealing with right now, ah, the one world order.
Listen, this is what's been happening to black people all alone, lying and deception, stealing the history.
Now you all have become the new black people.
And this is what I tell basically all of my Caucasian friends.
What we've been dealing with since we've been here.
Now you're dealing with the deception and the lies and being used.
Let me tell you something.
In Chicago, where I'm at, they're spraying chemtrails all up in the sky.
I'm talking about like, like jagged.
We're dealing with spiritual wickedness in high places.
We're dealing with the father of lies.
We're dealing with the leadership.
Now it's either you want to be on God's side or you want to be on the side of wicked.
Now we have wicked that's in control right now.
And you're going to have to choose between Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior or following the false ones.
Right now, it's we call it a plandemic.
No, I did not take any of the vaccines at 67.
I told my children do not take it.
It's made out of aborted babies.
Listen, they're doing things that call bioengineer.
We our children are eating children.
They're taking over the school system like Hitler did.
Grooming our children, cutting off the breast to pees and hysterectomy, stripping the parents of the rights.
The United Nations and the government is doing it.
We're dealing with a one world government, spiritual wickedness.
The same thing they did to the Indians.
Eight hundred and thirty treaties.
Guess what?
They broke everyone.
Now they're lying to you.
See wickedness after they finished the black folks, you said third world country.
America and the world have become the third world country and there is a God and he's going to judge between good and evil.
So open up your Bible right now.
You're dealing with the one world order.
You're dealing with the Antichrist is spiritual witness and they think they're God now like the older guys.
Like the older guy said, he's not older.
Forgive me, sir.
He's young.
But he said he said now you got to smart for your own bridges.
Now these people with all the money they stole from Africa and the other countries and that cheating them.
They're using all these brilliance.
Can I say thank you?
The world.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
We've got the link.
Well, well, the clear we've got the link to that coming Amazon.
Sixteen years in the making.
Everybody free download.
Thank you very much.
Can I say Jeremy?
Hi, just a quick one.
Thank you very much for talking as ever.
First of all, you heard you back in 2020.
Suka and it made a huge difference to me.
I just wanted a quick update because many people on the call have been involved in that recent letter that's Andrew Bridgen has published.
I was wondering if you'd had any update or any feedback from that, either from Steven or Suka or to any of the others on the party that letter?
Not yet.
Fingers crossed.
It's going everywhere.
Just to let you know.
Yes, I know.
I appreciate my really.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jeremy.
Emmanuel.
And thank you very much.
Emmanuel was introduced to us by Michelle Shostakovsky.
And so he so he will give us a bit of background about you because, Stephen, Emmanuel can also address us in future.
Oh, thank you very much.
I'm a an expat, dual citizen of the United States and New Zealand.
I resigned my position as a psychiatrist at the end of twenty twenty one before I could be mandated here for the Jabs.
And I've written and spoken out a great deal about the Jabs, covid and whatnot and articles.
Many places in the Internet, et cetera, et cetera.
By the way, secret, my friend, I'm a friend of Libby, Handros and John Kirby, who interviewed you for their perspectives on the pandemic series.
And that was one.
I think the first time I had heard you were close to it and I thought that was a wonderful interview.
My question is very brief.
I would like to know how is the MRA, the Pfizer Jabs supposed to actually work?
I'm not an immunologist.
So what I'm supposing is that you get MRA that starts turning out spike proteins in very high quantities.
And then you have antibodies that are manufactured that bind with the spike protein.
Is the pathogenic agent the one that's causing all the endothelial damage and everything throughout the body, the antigen antibody complex or other other factors?
Oh, dear.
Hmm.
It's not that simple.
The.
Now, the the MRA is packaged.
All right.
And with every jab, you're injecting billions of these packages into the body.
And a good part of these packages enters the lymph nodes and the bloodstream.
And these packages have the propensity to be taken up by any cell, the touch, which would be the cells of the immune system in the lymph nodes, the cells of the vessel walls in the blood.
And once those cells start making the spike protein, which ejects out of the cells into the bloodstream, into the lymph nodes, the bloodstream is then taken up.
Into the lymph nodes.
OK.
This foreign substance is going to be recognized by the immune system, by the different arms of the immune system.
At first, when you don't have antibodies at first, it's going to be recognized mainly by the lymphocytes, killer lymphocytes,
which all of us have.
OK.
And these lymphocytes recognize.
Corona viruses and the proteins made by Corona viruses.
They will kill the cells and this will cause lesions, injuries, injuries in the on the vessel wall that will cause leakage of these injectables into the organs.
Where the organ cells like liver, the heart, the brain take them up and they in turn will then also be attacked by the immune system and killed.
So you have scarring going on all over the body in all organs, micro scarring, micro lesions that you just cannot detect.
In the lymph nodes, the lymph system, the moment a lymphocyte clone makes these, that clone is going to be attacked by its brothers and sisters.
You see, it's fractheside.
And when your clones in your lymphatic organs, that's why the lymph nodes start to swell.
You see, it's a it's war.
And.
Each of your lymphocyte clones that is dormant in the lymphocytes is responsible for controlling something, controlling a dormant virus in your body, controlling cancer cells so they can't proliferate.
If those clones are gone, outcome, the viruses you get your shingles, your EBV, you get your cancer, you know, all of this.
So I hope I made this clear.
I actually, you know, the English book that that came out in 2020 has a chapter on this.
So it's explained.
We explained why the vaccination is going to kill people, and that's why the book was banished because the book is a way to explain why.
We explained why the vaccination is going to kill people, and that's why the book was banished because it was it was a threat to the national security.
But you can still find it now if you search for it on Amazon.
Thank you very much. That's a brilliant answer.
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
Thank you.
Thank you, Emmanuel and Stephen will organize.
Emmanuel have a conversation about what he might present to us.
OK, so well, Emmanuel, I think I'm pretty sure we've got a spare place on slots on Tuesday if you'd like to speak to us then.
Tomorrow or.
So two days from now.
Two a week from now.
No, where are you in New Zealand?
I'm in New Zealand.
Yes, tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
Yeah, I can't do tomorrow.
No, it's not tomorrow.
Wednesday morning, nine o'clock for you, Emmanuel.
Correct.
And Friday for me?
No, no, Wednesday for you.
Wednesday for me.
This coming Wednesday?
Yes.
What time would that be? Nine o'clock?
Nine o'clock in New Zealand.
In the morning.
OK, yeah, I think I could do that.
I think I'd be able to do that.
Excellent. I'll write to you then, Emmanuel.
OK, yeah, thank you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much indeed.
OK, we've got 20 minutes to go.
So, are you OK for 20 minutes?
We've got Marv and then Stephen for closing questions.
Are you OK?
You need to have a.
No, it's all right.
Beautiful.
As a professor, you're used to used to speaking for a long time.
So that's very good.
Marv and then Stephen.
Hey, Doc, I want to ask you about I thought Luke Montegneri, the Frenchman who identified the.
The virus and he identified the strand, the DNA that was inserted into the strand.
Are you familiar?
You're familiar with that guy?
I thought it was in your book.
You reference that guy.
He did that night in 2020.
Luke.
What is it?
Luke Montagny.
Yeah, he identified the they inserted the strand in the DNA to create the SARS-CoV-19.
Are you familiar with that guy?
I want to ask you what you thought.
But he didn't do that, actually.
Luke Montagny, the Nobel Prize winner.
Yes, correct.
What about his work?
What about that work?
Well, he was right.
But that's not that was not what he described.
Basically, he was right.
OK.
What did he describe?
I guess I got it wrong.
Well, he he identified the HIV sequence in the virus, the AIDS, the HIV and also the
prion sequences that would alter alter the the function of the spike protein.
And in fact, he he said that it was completely clear that this protein was manufactured in
a lab.
So there was another Nobel from Japan who said the same thing.
And he said he knew that this was fabricated in Wuhan.
And if he turned out to be wrong, he would return his Nobel Prize.
One million.
That was the Japanese.
OK.
That's amazing that he's still got the million.
All right.
Thank you.
We've got Judith and then Stephen.
OK.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
OK, good.
Well, this is probably comic relief.
There was recently a story in the in the mainstream media about a man from Magdeburg,
Germany, who claimed to have taken 217.
Yes, yes, yes.
And all of that.
Yes.
Now, is that a complete deception or do you have some other theory?
Oh, no, I don't have any theory.
I just when I read this other thing, I just trash it, throw it away.
Don't waste time.
It was in the Lancet.
I know.
I don't care where it was.
You know, if I spent any time on such articles, I wouldn't I would be dead.
Very good.
Thank you.
Thank you, Judith.
There's there's secrets.
Excellent answer.
Stephen, last questions to you.
We're finishing in in 10, 15 minutes.
So, so secret, I just want to read the closing lines.
I think it was the closing lines.
I've got it actually in in the letter, which I have been very long letter,
which has sent to the Lancet expecting them to publish it.
Having published the two previous ones about during the song, which I thought was even more risky.
But anyway, oh, that was about the psychological torture of during the song, by the way.
So we were writing as doctors, medical doctors about that.
And we absolutely nailed it twice.
Twice and got, I think the longest letters, the the Lancet ever published, like 30 pages long.
Anyway, you wrote towards the end of your book, I think it may be the closing lines.
I want to read it out.
And then I would like you to say, what is your perception now?
Not so over three years later.
So you wrote the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak was never an epidemic of national concern.
Implementing the exceptional regulations of the Infection Protection Act,
that's in Germany, that's just in parentheses, were and still are unfounded.
In mid April 2020, it was entirely evident that the epidemic was coming to an end
and that the inappropriate preventive measures were causing irreparable collateral damage
in all walks of life.
Yet the government continues its destructive crusade against the spook virus,
thereby utterly disregarding the fundaments of true democracy.
And as you read these lines, human experiments are underway with gene based vaccines,
whose ominous dangers have never been revealed to the thousands of unknowing volunteers.
We are bearing witness, this is very important I think, we are bearing witness to the down,
this sentence now, bearing witness to the downfall and destruction of our heritage
to the end of the age of enlightenment.
May this little book awaken homo sapiens of this earth to rise and live up to its name,
or their name you said, and put an end to this senseless self-destruction.
I just wonder whether now, over three years later, having thought about this a lot longer,
obviously having had much more time to think about whether you would add anything to that characterisation,
whether you would say anything about the deliberate and planned imposition of totalitarianism
using trojan horses such as Covid-19, climate change and the Russia-Ukraine War
and all the nonsense with that, NATO.
So what do you think, Sigrid?
Tell me if you don't like the question and I'll ask another.
It's very difficult for me to answer, you know, I stand by every word that we wrote in the sentences.
I don't think there's anything that we would alter or change.
What has come on top is that we now know that everything was deliberated,
everything was intent, was intended, was planned,
and this has been the planning and execution of the greatest crime in humanity, against humanity.
Yeah.
And I think we know why it's being done.
Sure.
So what would your recommendation to ordinary people be, you know, awakening from this nightmare of the last four years?
And also, I would wonder, I'm very interested.
So I personally felt very sad about what was happening to my country and to the world.
I just, I still can't believe it.
And the overwhelming emotion, I think, was sadness.
Sadness.
I just wonder what, you know, almost as if we didn't really understand the world before.
And they went one step too far here and they awakened us all, well, some of us,
and then we had all this time to talk to each other, act in a human way against an anti-human agenda
and work out what it was all about.
And what it was all about was raping the souls of human beings in my opinion.
Yes.
Steven, yes, yes.
It's all, I mean, I'm with you.
The trouble is that all resistance was snuffed out.
I mean, it was extinguished.
We were persecuted.
Many were prosecuted.
Many lost their existence.
Some lost their health.
I'm afraid to say some probably also lost their lives.
That's why it's not been possible to really rally together.
Although one has to say that many tens of thousands of world citizens have come together now,
have joined hands and are striving together to affect the change.
And as I said, I think that this discovery of the contaminating chromosomal bacterial chromosomes
may become a game changer because all around the world, people are not able to understand
what's going on.
And if they do that, it means that they would have made the bubble burst.
They come out.
So, you know, yes, I'm going to be talking about the
Yes, I'm going to be talking in Austria.
You know, Austria is having elections, parliament elections in September.
And I'm going to be telling the Austrians that they're very fortunate because they will be the
first in the world to be able to make use of this new knowledge.
They will have four months to find out themselves whether what I told them is true or not.
And then they will have four months to find out whether the people whom they elected still stick
to their agenda and continue with the vaccination or do they turn back and say, no, we see now that we made a
mistake.
If they do turn back, then you can re-vote for them and re-elect them.
But if they don't and keep on saying this injection is going to be forced on you, your loved ones, your
children, your grandchildren, then I don't think it would be a good idea to re-elect them.
If you don't know whom to elect, maybe you shouldn't elect anyone.
Just stay away.
And in that case, you may have a change.
You may have a change of government.
Which would solve the problem.
Or would it?
Maybe power corrupts inevitably.
No, no, no.
You don't think it will?
Well, I wonder.
No, no.
Well, not this time.
Not this time.
Well, maybe not this time.
Yes, but maybe the wrong people are attracted to getting power and none of us really wants political power
because we know the problems that would come with it.
No, in this case, Stephen, I can assure you that if the opposition in Austria takes over, it's going to be OK.
They are the turning point in history, you know, when the right people come to power.
Sure.
So otherwise, there would be no changes, would there?
For example, the Russian Revolution wouldn't have happened and then the fall of the Soviet Empire.
I mean, we all know that empires do fall eventually, but nobody really knows when they will fall and what actually causes the fall.
We're waiting for the first countries to act.
Sure.
And once those countries act, there's going to be a domino effect.
Sure.
Yes.
I think you're right, Sucrut.
I said this about six months ago, but I've forgotten about...
So people are very concerned about genetically modified food coming into the UK after Brexit.
And yet I've said to them, you don't like genetically modified food, but you do go and get yourself genetically modified.
Get yourself genetically modified by an injection when you don't know what the contents are and neither does your doctor.
Yes, because they don't understand that they're being genetically modified.
But when they find out from us, Sucrut, it's from you and others, you know, Ulrika, Kamara...
From the team.
I haven't been doing this myself.
I'm just reporting their results to you.
It's very powerful, I think.
You know, that's what human beings understand.
If you start messing around with the genetics of human beings, then that's really unforgivable because it's transhumanism.
Of course.
Not only that, these perpetrators are placing themselves above God.
Absolutely.
Human hubris.
They cannot...
Yeah.
I don't want to be in their shoes, you know, when this gets around.
So just briefly, I think that, you know, the Trojan horses of totalitarianism, I don't think we, you and I, would like to live in a totalitarian state,
although actually we have been, I have been living in one for the past four years.
And it's getting worse with time.
It's getting worse with Rishi Sunak.
Rishi Sunak is just as bad.
In his tiny, tiny suits, as somebody put it.
I can't remember his name, the Irish guy or Scottish guy.
Tiny, tiny suits.
He's very short, Rishi Sunak.
So they make sure that he's never photographed with normal sized men, you know.
So anyway, but he wears very expensive suits to make up.
And so, you know, they try to big him up with his wonderful suits and his wonderful shoes, you know.
And but actually, so in other words, he's every woman's dream, allegedly.
But that was what they were trying to push at one time.
And but then it came out that he was actually tiny.
And the first thing that women talk about when they're describing a man is, oh, he's very tall.
Anyway, that's by the bite.
So I think Trojan horses of totalitarianism, COVID-19, climate change, the Russia-Ukraine war, fake proxy war.
And then you've got lies promoting a false narrative, which we supported by propaganda and censorship in particular.
Fear propaganda and shame propaganda.
Outrageous that they did that.
And that was about psychological torture of human beings to effect treason,
to rape the soul of human beings and cultures and countries.
And it's an anti-human agenda.
It really is unforgivable what's happened.
And I just wonder as a parting thought, Sugrit, have you heard about the Universe 25 experiment?
And if you have, what did you think about it?
Oh, I fear that it's true.
Do you think that that experiment was actually all about what we're going through now?
And they were trying to they were trying to.
Well, I don't know what they do.
They broke the will of mice to live so that some mice, in fact, none of the mice could breed in the end.
And I think that they've used that knowledge on human beings.
And that's what they were trying to do.
They were trying to break the will of human beings to live.
I think they're doing that.
It's a bit late to go into this, you know.
Sure.
I think they're doing that.
I think these RNA injectables are doing it.
Okay.
You have brain cells dying all over the place in the brain.
Sure.
That cannot be replaced.
So they're changing man and mankind and destroying humankind.
They're destroying us.
You were one of the great heroes of the last four years, in my opinion.
I'm not a hero.
Come on.
Well, you were.
Anyway, but anyway, thank you so much for coming on and for being so humble in answering the questions.
And sorry if you felt sometimes that people were trying to put you on the spot.
I don't think they were actually.
No, they weren't.
Thank you so much for speaking to us.
Excellent.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Big round of applause.
Everyone's clapping here.
It's wonderful to be with you.
May you live for decades to come.
Thank you, Stephen, for organizing.
Thank you for all the wonderful links in the chats, everybody.
Resources save the chat.
Sukrit, I'll get the chat to you so that you have all those resources and comments.
And thank you and see you all on Tuesday.
And Charles, maybe we could get the video to Sukrit as well.
I always send it to Abner.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Bye, everybody.
Bye.
Thank you, Sukrit.
And go to Tom Rodman's video telegram meeting if you have time.
Tom has put the link into the chat for those of you who have the time.
And I'll keep the chat open for last final comments if there are any.
Sorry to keep you up so late, Sukrit.
Okay.
I'm trying to teach.
But hopefully he's gone now.
Yep.
I hope that you all check out my daughter's movie because I'm driving in my car in Chicago
and saying, oh my God, this is when you all see the movie, we worked on it for 16 years
with no money.
God told us to do the movie.
And it's really about the one-word order.
Like he was saying, this is this is this is wickedness.
It's frightening that the people were forced because of fear to succumb to this.
And it is killing people.
The masses of people, I believe 90 percent died in the hospital from the injections that
they gave them.
That's correct.
Ganeetha, you're quite right, but we've got to go.
And the links are in the chat.
So thank you for sharing with us.
I'll be praying.
Ganeetha, you slandered my church and I asked you to back up your claims in the chat.
So listen, you got my phone number.
Give me a call.
Just call me.
I will.
God bless.
We're family right now.
We're all fighting to live and to exist.
I'd like to think so.
I can't believe it.
OK, have a chat.
Amy, love you all.
Bye bye.
Bye.
God bless.
God bless everyone.
Call me.