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So Paul, we are a group of doctors, lawyers, physicians, scientists, physicists, troublemakers,

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journalists, all orchestrated by Stephen and friends of Stephen.

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And so I moderate this so that Stephen can relax while he does the work during the week.

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And we're happy to listen to you for 40 minutes, 50 minutes, or 10 minutes and questions.

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Yeah, I mean, I would prefer it is I mean, I can talk whatever, but I think to have a discussion,

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I find always useful, which has been the problem with COVID is we've been censored so that you

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can't have conversations. And I think a conversation, you know, science is based on people talking and

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exchanging ideas. And, you know, I learn stuff all the time just by talking to people.

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So would you like, if you gave us a 10, five minute story about your background,

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and then I can moderate the questions, we'll do it. We'll try it. We'll try this verbally.

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So we'll have a conversation as you request, and people put their hand up, and we'll take them in

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order. Stephen goes first, and then we'll do the rest in order. You happy to do that?

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Sure, I can do anything. I mean, if you want to, I can do a singing and dance routine.

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Paul, what would be really great is, I think, having viewed what the evidence you gave to

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Senator Johnson, I think that you would be really good to explain the practice of medicine to

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the people on the call, because I don't think a lot of people who are doctors,

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understand what it's about. So I was saying to my own family, for example, the governments were

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saying around the world, follow the science, and I was saying, no, follow the medicine.

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And I was thinking, where are the doctors? What's happened to them? Yes. So that would be very

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useful, I think, because they've heard some of it from me. But I'm sure you, a professor in the

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medical school, and a medical doctor, would have very good grasp of how medicine should be,

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and how it's been corrupted since March 2020, how totally corrupted it's been.

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Yeah, I mean, it's so perplexing what's going on. And, you know, for me, the biggest tragedy is

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why so many people have their eyes shut and their ears closed, and have just no idea. I mean,

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it's, you know, you just look what's going on around, and you just can't be blind. And yet,

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yet the public are so brainwashed, doctors are brainwashed. And then, you know, you just dare to

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question the narrative, then you're an anti-facts, misinformation, trouble shooting person.

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But, you know, I've come to believe that this is a very, this is not just a,

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this is not just a COVID thing. There's a very big agenda at that's going on. That's very sinister.

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What exactly it is, I don't know. I don't like to think about it. And, you know, my thoughts have

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evolved, you know, from time to time, you know, each time I thought it was some kind of conspiracy,

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and then it actually turns out to be true. And so I don't know what the truth is anymore.

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You know, I'm reading stuff on HIV, it seems like HIV doesn't cause AIDS. I mean, this is such a

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remarkable concept, is that there are these massive misinformation, propaganda agendas that

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don't allow people to, you know, exchange ideas and to talk and to

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raise alternative hypotheses. I mean, the concept to me, that AIDS is not caused by HIV is just so

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bizarre, that it's difficult to get your head around. You know, I was reading about dinosaurs,

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maybe dinosaurs didn't happen. I was reading that maybe the moon landing was all staged.

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So, you know what, I don't know what's true and what's not true anymore. Certainly, 9-11

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was the story we were told was not the true story. And actually, I was in Dallas recently, and I

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went to the JFK Memorial and the story we told is certainly not the true story. So, you know,

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if there's a plot to kill the president, and clearly there was, you know, where's the limit?

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I don't know. So I'm having personally, I'm struggling with dealing with what's real and

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what's not real. I think we all are. Yes, as Paul, as they say in the classics, the difference

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between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory is six months, rapidly reducing to one month.

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Yeah, I mean, that seems to be, you know, when, you know, the idea came out that this was a manmade

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virus, you know, people thought this was a conspiracy, they wrote it was a conspiracy.

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But I mean, I think the overwhelming majority of data, you know, this, this, this is manmade.

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And then there was idea that this was an accidental leak, you know, it seems like it was a,

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this is all by design. And so there are lots of very disturbing things about this whole story.

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So I don't know, whenever you're ready, I can start talking.

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Before you get started, may I say something, Stephen?

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Sure.

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If you, you have just said that you're confused, we're all confused, just like Stephen said,

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can you imagine how the general public feels?

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Exactly. That's what I've been thinking.

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That can you just imagine when we can't even sort through it, who are working with this every

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single day of our lives for the last two and almost half years now, you can imagine how the

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public feels. But I do want to say something to you. Paul, I want to say this. My husband

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has terrible asthma, and he was in the hospital with COVID. He was in the hospital for 222 days.

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And he was on the ventilator for six and a half weeks. I want to thank you personally.

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I've already thanked Dr. Pierre Corey, because I demanded the math protocol.

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My husband is alive today because of that protocol. And I want to thank you.

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Thank you. So it's stories like yours that keep me going.

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Because I've lost a lot. But you know what, we have to continue. Sorry.

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No, that's fine. I see your tears. I see your genuine concern.

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But that is not what the public has seen from other dogs.

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Yeah. Unfortunately, the propaganda is such a mean they've hired public relations companies,

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they've spent billions and billions of dollars on propaganda. This is nothing more than propaganda

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and misinformation. And it's deliberate and by design to fulfill their agenda.

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And that's the tragedy. Because you know, you try speak to normal people, they think you've got

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three heads when you suggest an alternative narrative. Just because you know what they see

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on TV, what they read, what social media, it's such a brilliantly coordinated public relations

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campaign that, you know, what we're trying to say, what we're talking seems so preposterous,

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because it's either their reality. And I mean, if doctors are confused, you can see why the

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public are confused, because they've been fed all of this misinformation.

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Yes, that's the tragedy.

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So Stephen, can you make me a co host, please?

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Carla Dean, thank you for that most moving message to Paul, just to, you know, put him,

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throw him off his confidence and put tears in his eyes. Well done.

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Wait a minute, is that a compliment or not?

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It's a big compliment. Yes, of course.

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Thank you.

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Paul, over to you.

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I've done it, Charles.

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So, you know what, maybe I'll just start with my story. And if you have any questions, you can just

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back in or whatever.

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And then address what Stephen asked. Stephen, could you repeat again what you would like Paul

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to cover first after his story?

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Well, yes, but he maybe hasn't prepared for it. So I don't want to push it too hard. So, Paul,

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I think what would really benefit people would be for you to outline some of what we learned at

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medical school so that they understand in a medical situation, you let doctors get on with it.

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You don't come along with a bunch of scientists with data or lawyers with evidence, which is

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provable beyond reasonable doubts or beyond the bounds of probability or whatever.

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So, doctors sort out medical situations and it was astonishing to me that they lay down before

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their governments and their governments had not a clue what was going on because they were advised

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by corrupt people. The government was probably corrupt as well. So, if you could wind in your

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understanding of what we both know was taught to us at medical school, including particularly the

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medical ethics, the Nuremberg Code, informed consent, if you know about those things, if it's

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on your tongue, and human medical experimentation, which is what the Nuremberg Code is about. And

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my view, which is what I said in the email to you, but you haven't seen it clearly, was that all

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the measures taken in the name of this single coronavirus were not medically justifiable.

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And constituted medical human medical experimentation in violation of the Nuremberg Code.

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That's my personal opinion. I don't mean. Yeah, so I agree with you. So, you know, I think

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medicine, medical science has been corrupt for a while. I think the control that Big Pharma

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has on medicine, the medical curriculum, medical schools, journals has been there for a long time.

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You know, if you just look at NIH funding of medical schools, 55% of NIH grant goes to the

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medical school, just as a bonus. So medical schools are really funded by the NIH, and they don't want

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to go against the NIH. And they obviously have different agendas. You know, when I look at

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nutrition, you know, one of my interests is nutrition. I think medical students spend an

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hour in the entire curriculum, you know, on nutrition. The rest is on, you know, pharmacology

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and drugs. You get very little tuition on lifestyle and health style choices get lit,

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almost no tuition on medical ethics. So it's a and, you know, I think COVID has brought this out

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right to the front because it's made it really extreme. But I think, you know, I was fortunate

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to be a South African student and medical student, and I was brought up in a bizarre country.

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But you know what we were taught to think, maybe because we were in such a bizarre situation,

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and to some degree, we had this, you know, guilt complex. So we were super sensitive to

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doing the right thing, being morally and ethically correct. And, you know, doing the right thing.

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So maybe that's that was part of my genes, which makes it difficult to operate in the US.

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So, you know, my story is I'm an intensivist. I've practiced critical care for 35 years.

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I've always had an interest outside, you know, the biggest scope of medicine.

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You know, I'm board certified in nutrition support. I was interested in alternative medicine.

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I love the ICU because it's a place where you could practice medicine, you could see physiology,

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you could manipulate physiology. And that's where my love was. COVID, you know, changed things.

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So, you know, how this really started was in March of 2020. You know, once COVID came to New York,

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if you remember, there was no specific guidance on the treatment of this disease in New York.

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You know, if you're on a ventilator, 80 to 90 percent of people were dying.

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And the WHO said the treatment was supportive. Now, I mean, any physician would say that's absurd.

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This is a disease that has a high mortality. How can you do nothing? You at least have to try

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something. And I was always taught, you know, you've got to leave no stone unturned. So it was at

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that point that we started, I started with the, what was then the EVMS protocol for the treatment

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of COVID. We suggested steroids. And this is really based on our bedside observation,

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our understanding of the disease input from Dr. Maduri. And we were ridiculed. The WHO, the NIH,

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the CDC advised strongly against the use of steroids. But you know what, we were at the bedside,

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we could see this was an inflammatory disease and we saw it worked. And so our protocol has

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evolved with time. And really it's based on the best science, because I think that's what we should

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follow. And obviously it's a dynamic process, because I think we understand a lot more now

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than we did then. We still got a lot to learn. And I exchanged information with colleagues across

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the world. And it's amazing how useful that is to speak to like-minded people who treat this disease.

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And that was really, you know, very helpful because, you know, they would come up with ideas I

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never thought of. And so that's how a protocol evolved. My medical school embraced me. Really,

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I was like the local hero until about May of 221, when then I became the villain, because,

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you know, we had suggested using ivermectin as part of the protocol, not as the entire protocol

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back in October. And nobody seemed to mind. But suddenly, you know, when the NIH and the WHO and

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the FDA went on this propaganda campaign, you know, you're not a horse, you're not a cow, stop it. And

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they actually sent out letters to every health, you know, state health agency saying that this is

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toxic horse deworming medicine. You know, ivermectin became undesirable and I became

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undesirable. I was an undesirable person. But what I did is, you know, I treat patients, you know,

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the bedside. And I do as best I can. I think guidelines are fine. But they're guidelines.

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They never a mandate, they never a law because no two patients are ever the same. They're never

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the same. And the clinician has to use his clinical judgment. So up until October, I was using our

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math plus protocol, which I think was based on really good science, randomized control trials,

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you know, using flu voxamine and do test to ride and finesse to ride and vitamin C.

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And I was having really good results, but I wasn't using remdesivir because as we know,

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it failed in Ebola. It's a toxic drug. It increases the risk of renal failure 20 fold.

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And the data shows that it doesn't decrease mortality on the converse, it increases it.

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And it's, you know, what I've come to understand is you can't trust the data from big pharma.

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They just dishonest. They just dishonest and manipulate data because they're not interested

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in human lives or humanity. They're interested in profits. So I refuse to use remdesivir.

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And I use the medicines that I thought helped my patients the best. I was doing what doctors do

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is they look at their patients, they come up with a treatment plan and they do what's best for their

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patients. And these were FDA approved drugs. It's not like I was using experimental therapies.

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And then the hospital banned me using these drugs. At first, I didn't quite understand why I was being

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banned, but I think I was going against the narrative. I was going against the narrative,

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which is being promulgated by the NIH, the CDC, the federal government, all these agencies.

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If you look at the NIH guidelines, remdesivir and dexamethasone. So I was going strictly against

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this and I was having better outcomes. And that was not acceptable. It was not acceptable to go

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against the narrative. And that's what it really was all about, is that I did what I, what doctors

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should do. And I refused. So they prevented me treating my patients the way I wanted to.

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I did it for a week, which was one of the most difficult weeks of my career because I basically

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stood there hamstrung. There was nothing I could do. And I had a 31-year-old woman, a 42-year-old

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man. I had seven patients with COVID that all died. All of them died. And you know what? They

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may have died despite what I did, but at least give the doctor the opportunity to do what doctors do,

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is to do whatever they can to save their patient's life. I was prevented from doing that. And I was

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prevented because I was going against the narrative. And I've realized now that there are very strong

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incentives why you follow the narrative. They want you to follow the narrative for treatment,

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but most importantly, they've instilled fear into the public into being vaccinated. There's this myth

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that vaccines are safe and effective, safe and effective. And the only way out of this is

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vaccination. So there are a number of narratives that are being driven by big pharma, but probably

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also by big industry, large financial institutions, governments. So this was going against the

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narrative, and that's not acceptable. And that's kind of what led to my losing my job is that it's

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not acceptable. Human life is absolutely irrelevant. It's about this agenda they have.

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So that's kind of my opening story. I've become more enthused with what's actually going on.

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We were naive when we started this. We thought we'd come up with a protocol,

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people accept the protocol, we treat people and COVID would go away. They did not want COVID to

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go away. They wanted COVID to stay. They wanted to instill fear so that people could so-called get

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vaccinated. That's part of their agenda. And I'm not sure what these things are. They're not really

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vaccines. They're basically experimental gene therapy. So that's kind of my story.

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I've actually managed patients. I've looked after hundreds of patients with COVID. So I think I

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understand COVID. I've communicated with hundreds of doctors who are interested in discussing how

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to treat COVID. And unfortunately, every day I get terrible emails, much like Carol Dean's story

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with people stuck in hospital begging for help. And it's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking when

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it's a 42-year-old man with two or three kids that's going to die from COVID who should not have died.

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And obviously, you know, you look at the consent form for the vaccine. It's not a consent form.

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They do not list the risks, the complications, alternative therapy. It's forced inoculation

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against people's will. People get remdesivir in the hospital without informed consent. They just

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give it. They're not told the risks and benefits. So, you know, you talk about patients, basically

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in hospitals in the U.S., patients are prisoners. They are imprisoned. They have no rights. They have

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no advocate. They have no one speaking for them. Their family's not allowed in the hospital.

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The hospitals do what they want to do without really discussing the risks. They don't want to

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discuss it with the patient or the family. So COVID has unfortunately made a bad situation

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infinitely worse. You know, I'm a critical care doctor, and I have to say that hospitals are

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dangerous places for sick people these days. Patients have no rights. They have no advocates.

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And they are basically prisoners of the system.

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All right, Paul, thank you for this. Now, tradition here, I'll be reading questions out to you.

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They're in the chat, and then we'll go to chat, verbal chat after that. But first, tradition is

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that Stephen gets to ask the first questions of you. Sure. It won't be hard, Paul. You said you were

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prevented from practicing medicine as you had... You didn't use those words, but I think that's what

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you meant. I just wondered, so how you learned medicine at medical school and then in your

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training and then your experience, obviously, as you progressed to professor, how did they

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prevent you from practicing medicine as you wished? What would they have done if you had

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continued doing what you wanted to? Because you were a big noise in that medical school,

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as I understand it, and in the hospital. You know, I mean, you ask a good question. I mean,

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you know, part of looking after patients, you always think about a differential diagnosis.

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therapeutic treatments are, and that's regardless of any kind of financial interest. And then you

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do what you think's in the patient's best interest, which is the way I was trained to practice medicine,

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is that you should do what's in the patient's best interest. You should treat the patient

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as if the patient was your mother or father or you would want them to get that treatment.

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You want to give them the best and you don't discriminate. You know, if they're an alcoholic,

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a drug abuser, if they're off the street or they're a millionaire, there's equity. You don't

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distinguish how you treat people by their status in life. I mean, you know, if they're a smoker,

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you're going to treat them differently. You know, if they're vaccinated, you're going to

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treat them. You treat them like they were your own family. That's the way I was taught.

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What's happened with COVID is we've been told by the NIH how to treat people. And at first,

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I thought maybe this was a guideline. No, this is a mandate. This is what you have to do. This is

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how you treat them, which goes against the whole fabric of medicine. And basically what happened,

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they actually told the pharmacy not to dispense the medicines that I was prescribing.

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They banned them. I was banned from using FDA approved medications, including vitamin C.

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I was, the pharmacy would not dispense them. So, I mean, the hospital was practicing medicine.

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The hospital was telling doctors how to practice medicine. The state was telling doctors how to

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practice medicine. So, you know, that's why our slogan is let doctors be doctors. We should let

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them decide. So I'm not telling you or anybody else how to practice medicine. The doctor should

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decide for himself, but we should not have outside entities who have profound financial

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interests determining how we manage patients. And, you know, in your hospital and in your

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medical school, who exactly were the opposition? Who? So, you know, it's a really good question

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who they are because they're faceless. And I mean, so basically the chief quality officer put out

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the statement, which was directed at me personally, but was sent throughout the whole healthcare system

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of 18 hospitals. So the system consists of 18 hospitals. They sent around this memo from the

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so-called chief quality officer, basically saying that these drugs will no longer be dispensed by

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the pharmacy. Where that came from, I don't know. I don't think it came from him alone. I think he

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was pressurized. Was he pressurized by the CEO of the hospital? Was the CEO of the hospital pressurized?

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So nobody will really tell me who. So, you know, basically I became a, from being a hero,

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I became an undesirable. Nobody wanted to talk to me because I think it became clear

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that people knew I was questioning the status quo. I was questioning the safety of vaccines. And you

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know what? Medicine is based on asking questions. In fact, I had tenure and, you know, the origins

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of tenure in the forties was to protect scientists from being, you know, giving them academic freedom

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to say and do what they want to do, because it was felt it's in the best interest of society

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if you raise controversial issues to discuss. But even though I was tenured, I was essentially

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silenced. And then I was told how to practice medicine. But how, how, how did they think that

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they wouldn't get any criticism? I mean, who was the guy who actually sent out the letter? Who signed

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the letter? It was signed by the chief quality officer, a guy by the name of Bundy. We call him

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Ted Bundy because I think he fits into that category. It was signed by him. And what were his

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qualifications? So he hadn't seen a patient for six or seven years. I think he was a nephrologist

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previously, probably not a good one, because who goes into hospital administration is people who,

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who don't do well as doctors. So here this, this hospital administrator is telling, you know,

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a tenured professor how to practice medicine. Exactly. Ridiculous. But you know, unfortunately,

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this has become a systemic problem in this country, and probably abroad is if you go against the

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narrative. So the question is, is, is they don't want you to question what they're telling you.

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So there's a very smart woman in Maine by the name of Meryl Ness. She's a very smart woman.

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Yes. So she was she got she would got reported to the Board of Medicine because she had suggested

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suggested people use hydroxychloroquine, or either make them for COVID. She had a medical license

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rescinded, they took away her license. But what they even did further is they referred her for

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neuropsychiatric testing, basically accusing her of being so mentally disabled, or, or disturbed

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that she would actually order these medications. So they wanted to make an example of her

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to basically say, I mean, this is, this is like the Holocaust. This is like,

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why did she go along with that narrative? If she did, she had no option, her license was removed.

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They removed they, they removed her medical license. But you don't have to submit to a

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neuropsychiatric examination when you suspect that there are malign reasons for that examination.

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Yes. So she is fine. She writes, she's a very smart woman. She does have a legal background. So she is

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fighting this, this mandate or this requirement that she does go neuropsychiatric testing,

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which is clearly absurd, clearly punitive, clearly unacceptable. So she is fighting it.

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But unfortunately, they removed a medical license. So that prohibits her from practicing.

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And this is unfortunately the power that these agencies have. If you go against the narrative.

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There is no narrative for doctors. No, but there's a new narrative. The new narrative is safe and

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effective, safe and effective. You don't question it. And you follow the NIH protocol. That's the

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narrative. And it's absurd. It's that's, that's what it is. You, you, you, these are laws that

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come from higher powers, the NIH, and you follow the NIH guideline to a letter. If you even question

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it, you're not following the narratives. It's truly astonishing. And now we know that the NIH,

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from what I can see of Robert Kennedy's book, is completely corrupt, as is Fauci.

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Yes. So I mean, you know, yes, the FDA, the NIH, the CDC are controlled by big pharma. You know,

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that's who they work for. They work for big pharma. They're not working for the tax paying

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American public. They work for big pharma. They're controlled by big pharma. Many of the NIH

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committees have, the members have profound financial ties to big pharma. Big pharma

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controls, I mean, they, they're the biggest sponsors of Congress people. They give money to

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Republicans and Democrats alike, because they don't care. They want to control the narrative. They

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want to control Congress. And with very few exceptions, maybe two or three, almost every

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other congressman and senator accepts money from big pharma. Big pharma controls the press.

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Big pharma controls the media. Big pharma controls social media. Big pharma controls

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the Congress. Big pharma controls the FDA, the NIH, the CDC. It's just the way it is.

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And if people knew this, they would reckon that these agencies are not serving the best interests

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of Americans or the public or the world. It's all self-serving. I mean, you want to look at this new

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drug, the new antiviral, not Paxlo, the other one. My mind has just gone blank. The Merck drug.

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Ed, can you remember?

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Malponever. So Malponever is a mutagenic drug. It's mutagenic. The randomized control trial showed

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that patients who got placebo, patients who got placebo did better than those who got the active

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drug. And yet it was approved by the FDA and the federal government bought billions of dollars of

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stockpile of this drug. If that doesn't speak corruption, I don't know what does. So it's the

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narrative, it's corruption, it's lies, it's disinformation. And that's the story. Unfortunately,

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if people like me say the things I'm saying, you get labeled as a misinformationist and

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anti-vaccination and anti-scientist and you need to be discarded.

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But you're right, Paul, and they're wrong.

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Yes. So you know what? You have to go by your heart. And I know I'm right. And that's why I

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can't let them defeat me. And the truth will eventually emerge. You can't hide it forever.

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Exactly. That's what they don't know. You cannot hide the truth forever. It will come out.

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And then there's going to be a lot of accounting to be done, you know, to explain exactly what's

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happened. Yes. So how long have hospitals in America been deciding over doctors?

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So, you know, I think this is a COVID thing. You know, before we had guidelines, and the NIH would

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have guidelines. And probably the most obnoxious one is the Surviving Sepsis Campaign guidelines,

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which is not based on science, but on politics. And basically, they were thinking of making this

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link to reimbursement and finance, but couldn't sway it. But they do look at it if you're

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compliant. But it was a guideline. You weren't forced to do it. COVID has changed that. This is

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the first that I know of that hospitals dictate unequivocally how doctors treat patients.

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So if you're hospitalized, you get remdesivir and dexamethasone. So the truth is 95% of patients

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are hospitalized in this country, get five days of remdesivir and six milligrams of dexamethasone.

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Somehow, it's translated into the law. It's a mandate. It comes from some higher power.

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And so this is what's made COVID so unprecedented, because I think this has not happened before.

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Yes, exactly. So can I just, I'm nearly finished. So remdesivir is a deadly drug, as I understand it.

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And yet it's the, it was at one time the only drug, you will know this, but my understanding

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from the UK is that in the United States, it was the only drug that you could give

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to people who'd been diagnosed with COVID-19. And so Brian Ardis, who's been on with us,

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he told us about maybe four months ago now that there were 800,000 deaths from remdesivir in the

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United States alone due to the mandated use of that drug. What is your understanding of this?

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What is your view on that? And he also says that it's murder, mass murder.

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Yeah, no. So the question is, why would a doctor give a patient a drug which is known to be toxic

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and is known not to improve outcome? In fact, it's harmful. So that's immoral. It's a violation of

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patients' rights. It goes against the Hippocratic oath. It's murder. And I agree. The problem is,

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it's difficult to quantify its toxicity because there are very few control groups. It's like

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the vaccine. What they did is there was a placebo control trial, but at six months, the placebo group

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got the vaccine. So you no longer have a placebo group to follow up. The problem in the US is

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almost every hospitalized patient gets remdesivir. The hospital mortality is high. So it's very

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difficult to know what percentage of deaths are directly due to remdesivir. The WHO's own data

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shows that it increases the risk of kidney failure by 20 fold. And we know that kidney

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failure is a potent cause of adverse outcomes and death. So it's very difficult to actually

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quantify the number of deaths directly due to remdesivir. But it should be a drug which is banned.

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I mean, there's no reason to use it. The reason they use it is because it costs $3,000. And what

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you may not know is the federal government gives hospitals a 20% bonus on the entire hospital bill.

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The federal government gives the hospital a 20% bonus on the entire hospital bill for

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Medicare recipients if they get remdesivir. I mean, how much more evil and sinister does it get?

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Sure. Well, so Brian Ardis is prepared to give evidence in a court of law under oath

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that it must be a million Americans have died from remdesivir now. But worse than that,

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the people who are dying of remdesivir were then put down as COVID deaths. And then they used the

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death figures to psychologically torture the populations around the world. I mean, it's just

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so evil. Anyway, thank you for answering those questions. You know what? I don't know what to

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say anymore. You know, it's so disheartening because this isn't the medicine that I went into.

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This is not why we went into medicine. And, you know, the hard part is where's the rest of the

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world? Why aren't they shouting? You know, why are they so quiet and submissive? These protocols are

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killing patients. You know, we could have solved this COVID pandemic months and months and months

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ago if we did the right thing, but they didn't want us to do that. Yeah. And I think that doctors,

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there are lots of doctors, I think now who realized that they were suckered into whatever was going

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on without them actually giving it much thought. And now they're ashamed of what they've done.

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And they run away from me when I mentioned the Nuremberg code, literally. So yes, the other

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perplexing thing is why doctors just go along with this because, you know, they don't have to. So

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either they're ignorant, either they don't care, or they're so scared, or as you say, that they

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now recognize they've made a mistake and don't know what to do. But at least, you know, they should

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have a conscience. They should have some kind of humanity to say, hey, this is just wrong. People

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are dying. And that's exactly what Peter McCullough said in the middle of his speech to the American

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Association of Physicians and Surgeons. He was talking about his father, and he broke down as he

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was relating the story. And he said, he could hardly get his words out. It's the only time I've

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seen Peter McCullough lost for words. He said one by one, this is wrong. Exactly. So Peter McCullough

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doesn't have to be right about everything. You know, but at least he's looked like a doctor.

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And that's true of many of the doctors who've been working with him. So Peter gets criticized

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because he doesn't quite get the PCR test or doesn't want, I don't know. But the thing is that

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we're all working together, and we have to welcome those who want to work with us. I really want to

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hold the people responsible for and complicit in these great crimes against humanity to account.

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And I fear that people will want to just bury it and forget about it. And so I would be very happy

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to work with you, Paul, and with others you feel are very determined to hold these people to account,

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because I think there's a real risk that they'll get away. And they think that they are getting

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away at the moment. Yeah, that is the tragedy. So you know, what you say is that, you know,

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there are lots of Peter McCullough, Richard also, lots of people who are similar minded,

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we may think slightly differently. And that's fine, because you know, that's what science is

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based on. You know, and, you know, the more we discuss things, the closer we actually become

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aligned together. It's truly astonishing. But what happens is we allow to have discussion.

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The federal government has basically stopped a sense of discussion. Every single one of my

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YouTubes gets taken down for promoting medical misinformation. It's the same with Facebook.

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It's the same with all the social media. The newspapers just don't want to speak the truth.

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And so that's the problem we're facing. Paul, don't you think that we as doctors,

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we should emphasize clinical judgment, clinical acumen, you did mention clinical judgments earlier

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on, and also ethics, medical ethics. And those are the trump cards, in my opinion.

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Come on, we've got questions. We've got questions. We've got questions. Paul's got answers. I point

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out, Paul, that in Australia, US, Canada, UK, at least 60% of voters are happy with what's happening,

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because their lives are comfortable. Now, Stephen, before we go to the questions, we've got a lot of

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them in writing, and then we've got hands up. I point out, we've got Vera Sharav on the call,

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Stephen, who's a Holocaust survivor. Welcome, Vera. And so say hello to Vera. And we discussed,

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we say hello, and we discussed Vera with Jessica Rose on Sunday night. So Vera, she's here. We can,

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we'd like to say a couple of words, Vera, before we go to questions.

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If you unmute yourself. You muted Vera.

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Vera, you're still muted. Okay, okay. Can you hear me now? Yes. Okay. I just want to comment

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that the preparation for what's happening in United States hospitals was done already in Obamacare,

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and the author of the protocols that are being used, the murderous protocols that are being used

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is Ezekiel Emanuel. He is and was pretty much the most powerful bioethicist. Okay, so it's bioethics

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that prepared the so-called ethical justification for what's happened. This isn't very much known,

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but that's where the protocol emanated from. I forgot the name of it. He wrote a infamous

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article in The Lancet in which he expressed the opinion that anybody over 75

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is really dispensable, should not be treated, should not be getting medical care as someone

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in their 40s. All right, so eugenics is very much part and parcel and the groundwork

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for what's happening. A value is being placed on human beings' lives. In this case, his protocol

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is based on age. The most valuable people are young adolescents and young adults. At the end

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of the scale are infants and the elderly. They're pretty much useless idiots. There we go. Well,

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that's not true, is it Vera? Vera, if everybody had listened to you, this wouldn't have happened.

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So it's not true that we can dispense with the elderly. We need people to teach the young people,

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otherwise they'll be clueless. Yeah, but in other words, what I'm trying to point out simply is that

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just think how insidious this whole thing is. This was before COVID. Sure. This was preparing

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the groundwork for what would happen with COVID or any other virus or whatever they want to launch

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on us. But the point is they had it all prepared and that protocol is currently being used as well.

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And there is also an age issue there too as to who gets treated in hospitals or not. And the

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fact that both in March and April of 2020 and right now, according to this protocol,

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not only family not allowed to see their loved ones, they can't even use, they can't communicate

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electronically. So clearly, what does this have to do with? Nothing about health, nothing about

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you know, transferring viruses or anything like that. This is about, this is a machinery that

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has gone in force and it's very much like the T4 during the Nazis, which affected the Germans,

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not the Jews. Vera, don't you think that the decision, they wanted to separate the relatives

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from their sick loved ones? So, and that's in my view, and also combined with the lack of post

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mortems, the planned lack of post mortems, that is concealment of crime in my view, until proved

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otherwise. Well, you know, I really think that although the medical establishment is exactly

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following just as they did under the Nazis, there are thousands, really, tens of thousands

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of doctors who are saying no. The problem is that really all doctors should be leaving the hospitals,

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just saying we've had it, that's it. I absolutely agree. Do something on your own, get the garbage

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collector to become your doctor. Exactly. You know, it's in a way the way, you know, the truckers

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have tried to do and, you know, pilots. We've got to have really a doctor, well, doctors actually

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have not been really versed in medical ethics. This is... So Vera, to interrupt you, I think part

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of the problem is doctors are scared. So they know if they go against the current narrative against

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the hospital, they'll lose their job. And having a job is a very powerful incentive for people to

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keep quiet. And so, you know, I lost my job because I dared to speak out. I don't really care because

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I had to do what I had to do. But in a way, they have these people under control. Not if 25 walk

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out in one hospital. Sure, I agree with you, Vera. Yeah. So, you know, what we're doing is we're

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trying to work with the state legislatures to, you know, get the state legislatures to prevent

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this happening because it is an outrage. But it will take time. But, you know, what we need is

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people to be aware of what's happening. Unfortunately, most of the time, like you guys,

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it's preaching to the choir. It's those people, you know, the 60% of people who think everything

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is fine. They're the ones that need their eyes opened up because everything isn't fine.

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Absolutely. But they will be caught out, unfortunately, because they'll be on the

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wrong side of history and they'll find themselves in Nuremberg type trials.

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Yeah. And they'll also get caught out when a loved one gets sick. Then the reality will hit home.

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Then they'll figure out what exactly is happening. Can't trust the doctors. Yeah, exactly.

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All right, Vera. Thank you for that, Paul. Let's get into these written questions. And then we get

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conversation going. Vera, thank you for that. And please stick around. Adarya, who is a retired

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neurosurgeon, Paul, she's lost her voice. She's at the Wellness Parenting Expo. She's got a written

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question. Sarah asks, what should we know about the new variant showing up in Miami and other

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countries and the new treatment tweaks? Yeah. So, you know, I was watching this podcast or thing

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by the federal government saying these variants don't matter, but they actually do. The Delta

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variant was a highly virulent variant, which killed off a lot of people, was much less

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susceptible to therapy. Omicron is highly infectious, but it seems to be less, less,

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its mortality is lower. But you know what? These things are going to keep mutating. That's what

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viruses do. You know, it only has one single RNA strand, but it seems to be a lot smarter than humans

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who have 23 chromosomes. So this thing will keep on mutating. That's what it does. And the more it

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spreads, the more it's going to mutate. If we had stopped this disease, which we could have last year,

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we would have prevented all of these, you know, this widespread disease. But I think the more it

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spreads, the more mutations we're going to have, and it's going to keep on mutating. Thank you.

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Before we go to the next question, Paul, we should welcome Stephen. Roger Hodkinson has been doing

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great work in Canada, Sam, Kat with her presentations, Paul, all the people who have been

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putting themselves on the line. So we often say nice things about you, Roger, even though you're

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not here all the time, but well done on your work in Canada and others. Okay. So they're on this call,

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Paul. Yeah, that's what great because I think we are an expanding group of people. You know, at

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first we were just one or two, but I think we banded together and it's really wonderful, you know,

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communicating with like-minded people. They are brothers and sisters because we're in this together.

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And I think we are much, we are growing community and we just need to get more and more people to

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to see the light. Yep. As Bobby Kennedy says, no one's going from our side to their side, Paul.

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Everyone's moved. The only movement is from their side to our side. So that's at least promising. So

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Tom Rodman asks, he understands these tests, D-dimer, troponin level may detect jab side effects.

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He found a brother of his is in hospital for heart issues. He seemed fine a year ago. What other tests

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do you suggest to detect or rule out jab side effects? What other tests? And Kat put some stuff

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into the chat as well, but what do you suggest? Yeah. So, you know, that's such a difficult question

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because, you know, they've hidden, so they've hidden this data by design.

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The point to remember is that, you know, the virus goes for ACE2 receptors where they're limited

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amount. These vaccines are in a nanoparticle. This nanoparticle goes to every single organ in the body,

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including the testes, the ovary, the adrenal gland, the brain. So it causes a systemic

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spike inflammatory disease. We don't have really good tests to determine vaccine-induced injury.

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There are, you know, you can look for spike protein in the monocytes. You can look for spike

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protein in the skin. You know, the D-dimer is an indicator of activation of clotting.

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The vaccines cause a very strange kind of clot, which is high in amyloid. The bottom line is,

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though, is we really don't have a good test for COVID-induced or vaccine-induced injury.

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Okay. And then Dolores Kale was talking about, I think, Dolores, of clots in the iris as a test also.

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Miniscule as Ryan Cole is talking about clots showing in the iris.

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So what it does is it causes microclots and macroclots. So certainly you can look in the

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iris for, you know, the back of the retina for clots. It's difficult. You know, I think the

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bottom line is don't get vaccinated. Then you don't have this issue. You know, people say,

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you know, how do you detoxify from the spike? Well, don't get the spike in the first place.

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If you can avoid it, you know, once you've been injected with spike protein,

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I don't think there's a very good way of getting rid of it. But I must tell you, I read a fascinating

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paper two days ago, which looked at the use of probiotics. And it seems that if you take probiotics,

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which probiotics, it caused basically inflammatory mediators, that it tends to attenuate the

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vaccine injury. So, you know, if you are forced to get the vaccine, I think there are a few counter

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measures that you could consider. You know, one of them being, you know, probiotics with

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bifidobacteria, which change the fatty acids produced in the gut. You know, the other thing

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is maybe take ivermectin, which binds the spike protein. But obviously, if you can avoid getting

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it, you know, don't get it. It's a toxic protein. Next question. Thank you, Paul. Do you think Big

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Pharma might be trying to get rid of as many doctors? This is from John Goss, might be trying

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to get rid of as many doctors as possible to usher in diagnosis by computer so they can

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experiment at leisure. It's quite clear from the vaccine agenda, they have no morals and no concerns

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for individuals. Yeah, so the the agenda seems to be, you know, getting rid of the spike protein,

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get rid of doctors, minimize the role doctors have. They would much prefer that patients get

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married, get managed by algorithms and protocols generated by computers. So in fact, it's making the

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position of doctors less important, exactly, because then they can follow their agenda.

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They don't want people to think, because then you will question their protocols. So they would

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prefer to have, you know, medical assistants and computers manage patients, that that would be

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their objective. Thank you, Daria points, she was at that parenting conference yesterday. And

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Del Bigtree was there, Judy Mikovits. Del comes from highwire.com, of course. Daria calls them the

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Red Pill Expos. I like that everybody for that description, because I think town hall meetings,

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people coming together at Red Pill Expos, we can use that as a term of art, everybody.

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But, you know, Daria points out many parents of vaccine injured children are becoming better

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doctors to their families because of this process. So families are starting to start take

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responsibility, because they know they can't rely upon the medical, you know, the system.

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I mean, absolutely, because the medical system does not recognize that vaccine injury is a

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medical entity. They're not prepared to study it, they're not prepared to quantify it or figure out

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how to treat it. So unfortunately, it's family members that are carrying the burden of looking

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after these vaccine injured people. And let me tell you, it's a real thing. I think, you know,

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there was a lot of speculation, but we now have a really good idea of why young people drop dead

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48 hours after the vaccine. They get this myocarditis, which seems to be a stress-induced

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myocarditis from catecholamine release. So, you know, there's a good pathophysiological explanation.

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It's usually in, you know, young men who reasonably fit, they get the vaccine and die in 48 hours.

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Yeah, all those athletes. Matilda Lisdero asks, do you think this disease is really a new one,

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or could it be the normal flu enhanced by fear and bad treatments that made the symptoms?

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Yeah, so this virus was manufactured in a lab. It was perfectly designed to be toxic to humans.

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There's no question that certain of the genetic material that was placed in the vaccine was

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placed there by design to be a highly virulent virus. In fact, there's some proteins from the

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HIV virus that were put into this virus. There's no question of doubt this was a man-made virus.

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This did not come from some kind of natural reservoir. This was a man-made virus. There's

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no question of doubt, and we know where it came from. We know they were working on gain-of-function

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coronaviruses. So it's pretty clear what this actually is. It's a highly toxic virus that just

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man-made. Thank you. Kelly Burke asks, regarding your pre-COVID work, can you talk about your

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vitamin C protocols for sepsis? Did you encounter resistance for this approach?

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Oh, yes. So, you know, I'm not new to this. You know, I've been called a snake oil doctor

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and all kinds of names. And you know, what's most outrageous in medicine is people will design

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studies to fail so that you can disprove something that works. And probably the best is

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hydroxychloroquine. So I'm not sure if you know this, but there were studies done in South America

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where they used toxic doses of hydroxychloroquine. The normal dose is 200 twice a day. So what they

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did is they used in high-risk patients 3,800 milligrams of hydroxychloroquine. And obviously,

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it killed off a lot of people. And then they said hydroxychloroquine doesn't work. So this study was

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specifically designed to fail and to kill people. So happens the attorney general in Brazil is

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actually going to charge these scientists with manslaughter because what they did was manslaughter.

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They designed studies to fail. And similarly, many of the vitamin C studies were designed to fail

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because the medical community does not want vitamin C to be a viable treatment option.

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It's cheap, it's safe and effective. And you look at the vitamin study in Australia,

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you know, I was hoping this would be a positive study. They started the treatment on, we don't

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know exactly, but at least 18 or 24 hours after the patient was admitted to hospital.

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Why would you do such a thing? So they do studies designed to fail because they do not like cheap

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repurposed drugs. Essentially, this is big farmers war on cheap and repurposed drugs

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which threatens their livelihood. Thank you. Bernie Ryan from Canberra sends you God's blessing as a

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former ICU and critical care social worker. He's many friends and former colleagues who are

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intensivists. If you could look them all in the eye, what would you say to them?

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Yeah, I would say to every intensivist, open your eyes, just look at the literature,

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just do the right thing. Don't be a sheep or a lambing, do the right thing. You undertook

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an oath to do the best for your patients and that's what your duty is. Do the right thing.

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Daria asks you, Paul, did you take legal action against the hospital for your dismissal when you

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were tenured? So you know what I tried, but the hospital owns the legal system. The hospital lied

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under oath. The hospital lawyers and their so-called witnesses lied under oath. Let me say that again,

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they lied under oath. So we filed an emergency injunction which we lost.

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So you know what, I could pursue it further, but it's been such an emotional thing for me and

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the reality is that they control, the hospital controls the legal system, they control the press.

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So it's fighting a massive Goliath and I just don't have the energy anymore to do this.

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I would rather them face the court of public opinion.

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Thank you and yes, the hospitals lie under, if they're willing to kill people, then of course

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lying under oath is no big deal. That's an easy game to play. I used to be a lawyer, I'm a legal

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strategist now Paul and a professional speaker, but the work that Stephen's doing and the evidence

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from the people that are available, there will be an accounting. I have no doubt.

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So you know that's what gives me peace because I know in the end the truth will prevail that we

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will be shown to be correct and that there will be a lot of accounting that will have to be done

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and maybe after the fact there'll be hundreds of lawsuits, I don't know, but there's no question

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we're on the right side of history. There's no question of doubt.

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Yep, so Sarah asked the Florida Duval County Medical Society leaders are still pushing

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vaccinations for all and children. Why do they do this in your opinion and how can we pressure

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them to change them? I think Paul you've answered that and how can we pressure, we're talking about

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that's what this conversation is about. Next one, variance not so much that.

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My friend's Tom asked my friend's husband 60 years old a fit regular swimmer suffered dizzy

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spells recently he's been jabbed two, possibly three times like Shane Warren, Paul Merrick,

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a cricketer. His doctor suggested a pacemaker without any hesitation within a week or so got

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it installed. Can the jabs cause symptoms like this? So we're talking fit regular swimmer

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suffering dizzy spells. Yes, so you know what the spike protein goes throughout the body,

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it goes to the heart, it goes to the heart muscle, it goes to the brain.

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So unless the patient's having overt arrhythmias, which doesn't sound like it, I mean I don't know,

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it's possible the patient has a heart block, so I don't know, but certainly it's not going to get

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rid of the spike protein. So I think what the person needs to do is, you know, there's no simple

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way of getting rid of spike protein, but I think if you improve your immune system, vitamin D,

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vitamin C, the jealous sativa, probiotics, you want to get the body to get rid of the spike.

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That's what you want to do. There's no magic elixir that can suck out the spike.

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If the patient truly had some kind of a heart block, then maybe he would benefit from a pacemaker,

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but a pacemaker is certainly not going to deal with the spike. The patient's developing problems

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because he has spike protein and he's got to do whatever he can to get his body to break down

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the spike protein. Thank you. Jody Dickerson points out the AMA, the American Medical Association,

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similar to the AMA in Australia, is not a legislative body. They cannot make law or

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enforce it. Therefore, is the action that we should pursue getting hospitals and doctors to

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no longer listen to the AMA, they are allowed to give these mandates because we voluntarily obey

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them. We could have the AMA taken down or the people could all agree to ignore AMA and form a

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new board. What's your view around these sorts of professional body influences? Yeah, so, you know,

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it's not just the AMA, which actually doesn't hold much power in the US. What has power is the

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state medical boards because they have the power to take away doctors' licenses or to threaten them.

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But, you know, all of these bureaucracies which are all linked together, we need to take them all

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down. You know, the FDA, the NIH, the CDC, the state medical boards, they're all in cahoots.

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And so, you know, ultimately, we need an alternative health care system because this one has failed.

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And that's a pretty big undertaking because by design and these, all these agencies step in line

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with each other. Dr. Bregan, do you think that the state medical boards were being given guidance

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that was not good in following that guidance or do you think that they are actually corrupt?

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So, that's a good question. I think both. So, I think they've been given guidance on what to do.

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I don't think that these people practice medicine. So, you know, if you practice,

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if you can't practice medicine, you become a hospital bureaucrat. If you can't be a hospital

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bureaucrat, you then go to the state medical boards. So, these people are failures. They do

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not understand medicine. So, you know, they have no insight into the medical problem. So, I think

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state medical boards are made up by people who don't understand medicine. I think they're corrupt

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and I think they're influenced by, you know, state agencies. It's a complete mess.

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All right. Thank you, Jodie. Next, Daria makes the comment, Paul, that I think is a beautiful

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metaphor. Truth is like a fully inflated beach ball that will slip out from under the corrupt

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hands, forcing it below the surface of the water. It will shoot straight up and be seen by all.

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Isn't it a beautiful picture? Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm just waiting for that to happen.

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You know, I'm waiting because you can't stop the truth. You can try as hard as you can.

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It will eventually surface above the water. And Paul, the good thing about this, not only do we

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have the truth, but we have all these people. Everybody in the world is a victim of what's gone

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on. Yeah. So, you know, although, you know, people said 60% are happy, the reality is that this

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disease has touched a lot of people and a lot of people are unhappy by what's happening. So,

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there will be change. Yes. There will be change. I don't believe that figure of 60% are happy.

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That can't be right because they've lost their doctors. They've lost their friends. They've lost

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their family. How can they possibly be happy? Not only that, because, because, Steven, over 30%

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of the workforce in the UK, Canada, Australia, US are public servants.

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Yes, they're still victims. They're still victims. Of course they are, but they don't

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really, as Paul said earlier, when their children start dying, then they'll wake up.

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Exactly. Paul, Gary, Gary F, our man with an F-I-N asks, have you considered practicing in Florida?

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Yeah. You know, I have considered practicing in other states. The problem is, I think,

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the hospital system. So, if I was to go to another state, I think it would be Florida.

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You know, at the moment, I'm just so disillusioned with medicine and hospital medicine.

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You know, I've decided that for my own sanity, I'm just going to, you know, keep on doing what

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I'm doing, try and speak the truth. And, you know, what will be, will be. Practicing medicine

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in hospitals at this time is a really difficult thing. And doctors, to a large degree, have become

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powerless. You know, there are these big healthcare systems which dictate how doctors practice medicine.

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So, you know, I will just keep an open mind and see what happens.

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Yes. Paul, in my opinion, you made the right decision to get out of the practice of medicine

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at the present time. I was going to go back into medicine, but when I saw this nonsense going on,

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I thought, no, not while this is going on. And now I think the whole medical profession

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needs to be retrained. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I can probably do more out of medicine than

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within medicine. And certainly the way we train medical students is appalling in this country.

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We need to, you know, critically look how we train these doctors, because these are people who cannot

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think. They've lost the ability to think. They told what to do. They cannot think. I think,

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I don't know if they have cortical atrophy or what their problem is, but they lack the ability

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to think. And when I was in medical school, I was always taught, what do you think? What do

635
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you think about this? What do you think about this? You know, they're not taught that. They

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spoon-fed and they answer multiple choice questions. And all the dean is interested in

637
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is them passing their multiple choice exam. That's all they're interested in.

638
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The UMSLE part one is all they're interested in. If the question's not going to be in UMSLE one,

639
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nobody cares. Wow. Okay. So, Warner Mendenhall, a US attorney, Paul, points out that nurses at

640
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Ohio Health did a good job by standing together. 11,000 were threatening to walk away when Ohio

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Health backed down from their JAB mandates. And secondly, in South Australia, the South

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Australian government revoked JAB mandates for police as a consequence of freedom of information

643
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requests showing that the South Australian government had no scientific basis for the

644
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JAB mandates. And so they dropped the mandates when they were, after finally getting those produced.

645
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That's why everybody, we've got to keep pushing the FLI, freedom of information,

646
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applications, even though they keep being resisted, they are effective.

647
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Yes. So I think, you know, the vaccine mandate is cracking because these are toxic. These aren't

648
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vaccines. The people are dying. And I think that people are recognizing this. So, you know, the

649
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states are slowly changing. There are some that have dug their heels in because they can't admit

650
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defeat. I think there are too many people in this who just can't admit defeat. You know, we all make

651
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mistakes. Just be big enough and old enough and responsible and say, okay, we made a mistake,

652
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but they don't want to do that. So there are some states that are digging their heels in,

653
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but it seems like, you know, slowly this narrative of safe and effective is being disputed.

654
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All right. So as I keep scrolling through the questions, let's go Sam. Time for you to have

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a question from Sam Dubay in Ottawa. Paul. Hey, Paul. Thanks so much for joining us. And a shout

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out to Vera and Roger Hodgson too. Roger is like a force of nature. Never underestimate him. Hi,

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Roger. Paul, I was the physician who interviewed Pierre Corrie in December 2020 after the Senate

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address. And I remember calling Joyce, his secretary, and requesting an interview. And she

659
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said, Sam, nobody in the world but you and Senator Johnson want to talk to us right now.

660
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And it just reflected what you said, how you guys were like totally like lepers, you know, basically.

661
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Well, that's not a good analogy, but you know, nobody wanted to come close to us because we had

662
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this bad thing about us. Yeah. And I can only imagine what you guys went through. And I remember

663
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we went for about an hour and a half in that interview and he asked to let the team watch the

664
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interview and you were the head of that team actually. And he came back and he said, there's

665
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just one thing I don't think they're ready for yet because we need to be careful how we approach

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us. And I'd asked the questions, can Ivermectin replace the vaccines? And you might remember that

667
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that was a bit of a sticking point. And he said, can you kind of just remove that for now because

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we want to make sure. So you guys were literally walking a tightrope, right? Like, and even then

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you got totally shafted. Like even trying to be careful. Can you talk to that just a little bit?

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Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, at the beginning, we decided that it would not be in our best

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interests if we came across as being any vaccination, because that's a bad label.

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So really up until the last month or two, we actually completely avoided the subject. You know,

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we said we had to, you know, we were politically correct. Vaccination is an alternative or part of

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the treatment algorithm, the other approaches. So we try to be more politically correct. But I think

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we can't take that stance anymore because certainly Ivermectin is better than the vaccine.

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I think Coca-Cola is safer than the vaccine. And I think you have to be completely insane to

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support the notion that they're safe and effective. Unfortunately, if you get labeled

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anti vaccination, you've been an anti government terrorist. That's what it's come down to.

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So I think, you know, you're right. In the beginning, we had to walk a very fine tightrope

680
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because we couldn't appear to be anti vaccination. And we had to put these ridiculous disclaimers on

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the website that, you know, we weren't anti vaccination. But I think, you know, it's clear now

682
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the data speaks for itself. So, you know, we have to speak the truth. And obviously,

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if you ask me the question now, yes, Ivermectin is a thousand times preferable to vaccination

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in preventing SARS-CoV-2. Absolutely. But you know what? I mean, it's a really good question,

685
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but in March and April and May of last year, we couldn't say that.

686
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. And, you know, you're such a compassionate man, Paul. I want to thank you so

687
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much for taking this fight. And, you know, Pierre speaks so highly of you. He always has, he always

688
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defers to you. Tell him I said hi, by the way, Sam in Canada. And so, you know, my response is

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we all in this together because, you know, our voices together is a lot louder than single voices.

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And I think that's what's changing is that they're more and more like-minded people who are willing

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to speak out. And that's what we need. And you have an interesting connection here to Canada.

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Your sister's son, Ryan Penn, I just got off the phone with him. He's the founder of Take Action

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Canada. And he just said, tell Paul I said hi. Yeah. So tell Ryan hi. I'm sorry I haven't

694
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contacted him. You know, my life is a bit chaotic. So I'll tell him that too. It's okay. My sister

695
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lives in Toronto. Bless his soul. I went, I studied critical care in Toronto. I mean, in London,

696
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Ontario. I used to think of Canada as a wonderful country, actually, which it is until somewhat more

697
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recently. Seems like things have changed a bit. Paul, we're sitting on a powder keg up here. My

698
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colleagues, Roger and Ray Strom up here in Canada and Ken McKenzie and a few others, Kathleen will

699
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tell you, we don't know what's going to happen next. And Lex sitting here, I'm looking at Lex too,

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out in BC. We have no idea what's going to happen next. And it's quite frightening, actually. You

701
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know, I'm keeping an eye on my bank account daily, making sure it's got a negative balance.

702
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So, you know, I mean, I've said, you know, for the last three or four months, the world has gone

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completely mad. I do not like living on this planet. And I'm looking to go live on a different

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planet because this one is completely messed up. Thank you, Liam, for your comment in the chat.

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Paul, if there's no medical leadership in what was always presented to the public as a medical

706
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problem, then of course, malign forces are going to take control. And that's exactly what's

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happened. So the medical leadership has gone. The public has lost its doctors. And given the fact

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that we were talking earlier that we can't make sense of this. So how on earth can the patients

709
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make sense of it? And then they suddenly realized, not only do we not know what's going on, but our

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doctors disappeared too. Yeah. So I must tell you that I think Anthony Fauci is one of the bad

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players in the story. He wields enormous control. And I think he's guilty of crimes against humanity.

712
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And why he's put on a pedestal is beyond me, because I think he controls the narrative. And

713
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you know what? He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy. He's a bad guy.

714
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You know what? He's a bad man. He's an evil man. He's done really bad things. And yet, when you say

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that, people look at gas at you because he's considered a hero. Well, not by Robert Kennedy,

716
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isn't it? Yes. And so you know what? I don't know why his book didn't get more attention in the

717
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general public. It's a brilliant book. He talks the truth. It's a very well written book. I think

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every American should read the book and take heart of the book. It's a difficult book to read.

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But I think you have an obligation to understand where we've come from and where we are. And maybe

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it will then open some eyes. You know, I don't know what to say. It sold plenty of books and

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they altered the mainstream media ignored it all beautifully. Thank you, Sam, for that question.

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Thank you, Paul. God bless you. God bless you. We're sending you strength.

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Thank you, Sam. Thank you, my friend. Charles, could I ask them Charles, very quickly,

724
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could I just ask you whether we could ask Vera while she's here, whether she would like to speak

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to us sometime? Sorry. Very well done, Stephen. You don't have to decide now, Vera.

726
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Okay, we'll see what you'd like me to talk about. I think partly, you know,

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medical political alliances, alliances, medical political.

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It's parallels to what happened in Germany. Can I suggest Stephen? I'm just being born in

729
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bits and pieces right now for everybody wants me to, you know, to be interviewed. And the only reason

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for that is because nobody else either dares or still stands up after they've butchered them.

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So I have to do that, you know, to all these various groups, whether it's South Africa or

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Australia or lots of times, Italy, they love me there. And Germany, of course. So, you know,

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that's I feel that I have to do that. I haven't even posted on our website because I don't have

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the time. So I don't want to make commitments. But, you know, if you really want me sometime,

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I hope so. And Vera, I must tell you, I mean, I lost lost half of my grandmother's family in Germany.

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So this is a sensitive thing to me. But I consider this a global Holocaust. And when I,

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when I say this to my sister, she shakes her head. But I think the forces of evil are so powerful.

738
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This is a global Holocaust. Yes, absolutely. It's worse. There won't be any rescuers.

739
1:25:36 --> 1:25:44
Just keep that in mind. No, yes. Yes. That's a good point. Yes. We're the ones that can maybe

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try and stop this. If Montagne before he died, Vera Montagne, you know, the one who won the Nobel

741
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Prize in 2008 for medicine. He said the unvaccinated will save humanity. And that maybe was why he died

742
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when he did. Oh, you know, okay, that's, that's in one way, hopefully, but in the other way,

743
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it's wishful thinking, because, you know, how we've got to get more into our troops.

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Sure. And not be terrified. It's very, very really, you know, just as doctors pretty much march in line,

745
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you know, what's what's different now also is that artists, performing artists, the culture is all

746
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marching to the tune. I hear from opera singers, I just heard from a piano, a concert pianist.

747
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I mean, they, they're just a few who aren't vaccinated, and so they can't work.

748
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Yeah, so you're right. I don't know why, you know, these people who have enormous influence, you know,

749
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pop stars, celebrities who people look up to aren't more vocal. My understanding, and this is a Canadian

750
1:27:01 --> 1:27:11
thing, is Celine Dion is suffering from neurological issues after the vaccine. And her contract

751
1:27:11 --> 1:27:18
prohibits her from disclosing this. But from my understanding, she's suffering some severe neurological

752
1:27:18 --> 1:27:25
injuries post vaccine. She should just stand up and say something, screw her contract. You know what,

753
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you need to just do the right thing. History will need to look well on you. She needs to speak the truth.

754
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Exactly, Paul. You know, there won't be history if we don't win.

755
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We will win. We will win. Okay, I mean, yes, we will. And the only place to go is the place

756
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that Paul mentioned, which is another planet. And so that's a little bit inconvenient.

757
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I think they were there already. Didn't we hear that Musk has something like 42 satellites or

758
1:28:00 --> 1:28:08
whatever? I mean, they're trying to go absolutely everywhere. But hopefully, hopefully something

759
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will. But Vera, going to another planet is unrealistic because the nearest solar system

760
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is four light years away. So traveling at the speed of light, which is 186,000 miles a second,

761
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it would take you four years to get there. So you must have a pretty fast craft to get there.

762
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At my age, I don't think that's a realistic thing at all.

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Tell everybody it's up to us. Gary, your question, thank you for your support for Vera. And Vera,

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that'd be lovely if you consider doing a conversation with us if you're not under

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too much pressure. Gary, over to you for asking Paul. Yeah. So Mike, the question that I can

766
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remember dates back to a little bit very early in the conversation. The thing that made me suspicious

767
1:28:55 --> 1:29:03
that forces were conspiring, I found it very odd when back in March of 2020, right at the start of

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the pandemic, the NHS prohibited doctors in the UK from prescribing hydroxychloroquine to treat

769
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COVID. Why would they do that? Well, how would they know at that stage to prohibit it if there

770
1:29:20 --> 1:29:27
wasn't an agenda? And given that the vaccine has been made in a laboratory, you know, Dr. Shetty's

771
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probably right. This is a virus that was made for a vaccine, not a vaccine that was made for a virus.

772
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Paul, would you agree with that? Yeah. So I think, I mean, this was a plandemic, as hard as it is for

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me to admit, this was a plandemic. This whole thing was planned from the beginning. They didn't want

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there to be effective alternative therapy. If there was effective alternative therapy, the EUA for all

775
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the vaccines would have been null and void. So this is all planned out, all planned out ahead of

776
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time. They just did not want a safe, effective therapy for SARS-CoV-2 because then the vaccines

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would have been, you know, they would have lost the EUA. And can I add that at the start of the

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pandemic, they did, you know, they knew about hydroxychloroquine as a possibility because it

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worked for SARS-CoV-1 and the Chinese had been using it. But they didn't know that either

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mectin was going to be even more effective and for greater parts of the course of the disease.

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So either mectin was allowed at first, but then they, you know, and I was hoping that when the

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election was over, the attitude would change. But no, the position hardened even against either

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1:30:43 --> 1:30:49
mectin and Trump had nothing to do with either mectin, it wasn't political at all. It was because

784
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they wanted to promote the vaccine instead of either mectin. Yes, absolutely. I don't think

785
1:30:54 --> 1:31:02
there's any question of doubt that that was what their modus operandi was, to squash any

786
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medication that would question the necessity for the vaccine. And then the other thing I just

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1:31:12 --> 1:31:16
want to say is that, you know, earlier on in the pandemic, I was working with a group of Brazilian

788
1:31:16 --> 1:31:20
doctors who had their hydroxychloroquine confiscated and we were gathering data from

789
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Didier Raoul in Marseille and he was under enormous pressure. But you know, the data was on

790
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his side. When you compared his statistics to the recovery trial Oxford University statistics,

791
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it was how could you even, or the rest of France's statistics, how could you even criticize him?

792
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So, you know, the truth comes out because the truth is the truth.

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And I think my last comment is just a comment. I don't know if it's correct, but anecdotal

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observation today was on the London Underground. There are announcements going on, you have to wear

795
1:31:59 --> 1:32:04
masks when you're on the Underground, it's there for everybody. Announcements going on, the

796
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Underground's full and I would say less than one in ten people were wearing a mask. The public in

797
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this part of the world are suspicious, they're not listening, they don't care. That's about masks,

798
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about their personal comfort and everything else, but the fear factor is gone, which is a big step

799
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forward. Yeah, I think you're right. I think people have realized that this whole thing was a hoax.

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Masking, social distancing, lockdowns, vaccinations. I think people who've got their

801
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eyes and ears open realize this is a big hoax and basically they're rebellion. And you know,

802
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I think mask usage has gone down because it's absurdity. So I think people to some degree are

803
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getting it. Yeah. So, everybody, could you please put into the chat? Could I ask you,

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could I ask you to take Roger next? Hang on. So if people could put into the chat,

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because it's a useful record for everybody of when mandates of any description have stopped, Gary,

806
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that's an excellent point that you make. And just keep adding it so that we've got that chat

807
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record so that when you're talking to other people, you say, oh, of course, all these other

808
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countries have stopped it. So thank you for all that input. And also, if the mandates haven't

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been taken off, no one's wearing them. That's also relevant information for us. Thank you,

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Gary, for that. Simon. You're welcome. Simon from Australia via Belgium,

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Paul. Don't hold that against him. Steven, sorry, are you going to say something, Steven,

812
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before Simon? I was just going to say whether Roger could have a go because I'm sure he's got

813
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some very penetrating questions. You know, we've got Cathy and Glenn and Roger. We'll get to Roger.

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You're okay for a few more minutes, Paul? Yep. He's going to get a job, Steven. He's got plenty of time.

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Yeah.

816
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Sorry for Roger or? Well, okay. Yeah. One thing I liked, I was talking to a group of Belgians that

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have a parallel system of about 10,000 now caretakers. And they try to not just wake up the

818
1:34:11 --> 1:34:16
people, but they really try to see how they can get patients to take responsibility for their health,

819
1:34:16 --> 1:34:20
because that's the biggest problem. They all say, I'm not a doctor. So I don't know, but how can we

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make sure that people actually take responsibility for their own health? But related to your remarks

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on hydroxychloroquine and also Garry's, I'm wondering, we are battling against or for regaining

822
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of our health and our freedom, but how do we battle for regaining our science objectivity? And

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seeing that, for example, these papers you talk about, there were only like a few scientists

824
1:34:45 --> 1:34:51
signed that, but is there a way we can use the numbers to actually give a more objective way of

825
1:34:51 --> 1:34:58
saying these papers are acceptable or not acceptable? How do we gain our science? Basically,

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is my question. Any other ideas on that? Yeah. So that's a really good question because the

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major medical journals are owned by big pharma. They've publicly admitted it. Lanceton New England

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Journal have publicly admitted they're influenced to publish bad papers by big pharma.

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The problem is if you have a look at JAMA and New England Journal and Lancet, when it comes to

830
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other medicine, they only publish negative papers. They will not publish positive papers. So I think

831
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just like the agencies are captured, the big journals are captured. And I'm not sure what

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the answer is. I think people have to recognize that New England Journal is controlled by big

833
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pharma. I mean, they published a ridiculous paper showing that vaccination is safe in pregnancy of

834
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all kinds of things. They are evil. They evil like the agencies. And I think they need to be called

835
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out as much as the agencies. They are propagating misinformation because they're controlled by big

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pharma. We have to get to a system where we take conflicts of interest out of medical publications.

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Both the authors and the publishers should have no conflict of interest.

838
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Thank you, Simon. Kathy, from what part of the US are you in?

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Boston area.

840
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Austin, Texas. Beautiful.

841
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No, Boston, Massachusetts.

842
1:36:36 --> 1:36:38
Okay, East Coast. Gotcha.

843
1:36:38 --> 1:36:45
That's a bad place. I'm originally from Utah, though. And in Utah, they had a super low death

844
1:36:46 --> 1:36:51
rate, one of the lowest in the US because they were always using hydroxychloroquine during the whole

845
1:36:51 --> 1:36:57
pandemic. You could go to any outpatient clinic and get it. And so they didn't close schools

846
1:36:57 --> 1:37:04
except for a few months in spring 2020. And, you know, everything was fine until the vaccination

847
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started. It's a good state to be in. I think they let doctors practice medicine there.

848
1:37:10 --> 1:37:20
So my question is, I was contacted by email from a woman who was visiting her sister in Greece,

849
1:37:20 --> 1:37:29
and the doctors would not treat sepsis with vitamin C, refused. And so I was wondering if

850
1:37:30 --> 1:37:39
you could put your protocol for sepsis in the chat, like a link to it, because I couldn't find it

851
1:37:39 --> 1:37:44
for some reason, but I would really like to, you know, have more knowledge.

852
1:37:44 --> 1:37:51
Yeah, so maybe what I... So you asked a good question, and we were gonna... I have kind of

853
1:37:51 --> 1:37:59
updated my protocol, which we're going to put on our website, but maybe I can email it to you.

854
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And then I can forward it to Stephen, and then he can forward it to the group, or whoever's interested.

855
1:38:06 --> 1:38:08
Sure. Yes.

856
1:38:08 --> 1:38:16
That would be great. I would really appreciate that, because I don't know if her sister even

857
1:38:16 --> 1:38:23
made it at this point. Let's see, I had another quick question. Oh, what did the hospital lie

858
1:38:23 --> 1:38:27
and what state are you in?

859
1:38:28 --> 1:38:37
So I'm in Norfolk, Virginia. So the expert witness said that hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin,

860
1:38:38 --> 1:38:45
fluvoxamine were dangerous toxic drugs that had never undergone randomized control trials,

861
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that they were toxic and killed people, and that remdesivir was a safe and effective drug.

862
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Under oath. Under oath.

863
1:38:56 --> 1:38:59
Under oath. Wow. Paul, what is your website?

864
1:39:00 --> 1:39:08
So it's FLCCC.net. It's the website Pierre and I developed, so it's FLCCC.net.

865
1:39:10 --> 1:39:14
Just quickly, I'm going to shoot you my email address, if you wouldn't mind sending it to me.

866
1:39:15 --> 1:39:19
Okay, well, let me give you my email address, which is easier probably.

867
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Okay.

868
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It's Pmarick, P-M-A-R-I-K, at FLCCC, FLCCC, that's three C's dot net.

869
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Okay. Okay, great. Thank you.

870
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That's it. Thank you, Cathy. Thank you. Professor Ian Brighthope has been doing a lot of work in

871
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Australia on vitamin C protocols. Paul, I'm sure you know Ian Brighthope over the journey.

872
1:39:46 --> 1:39:47
Yep.

873
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Next, we have Glenn the Macco. Glenn. And then Roger.

874
1:39:57 --> 1:40:04
My question, a number of us within this group have been trying to organize and to work as a group on

875
1:40:04 --> 1:40:12
things that we could help propel by doing them in a more professional, refined, and scalable way.

876
1:40:13 --> 1:40:20
One of the things that comes up all the time is that there's a vast element of people that

877
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have been psychologically trapped in their circumstances, whether in both professions and

878
1:40:28 --> 1:40:35
the general public. Are there people that you would advise us to try to contact that might be

879
1:40:35 --> 1:40:43
especially good trainers that we could be using and try to gear up in a way that we could reach

880
1:40:45 --> 1:40:51
at least tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people in individual group sessions

881
1:40:51 --> 1:40:59
that either they can be giving their message to a large set of people or training a number of people

882
1:40:59 --> 1:41:05
to train the trainers, to train the teaching assistants to go out and speak to the public?

883
1:41:07 --> 1:41:12
Yeah, so you asked a really good question because really what we need is a network of people

884
1:41:12 --> 1:41:18
who have different expertise who can, you know, because this is a complex issue. We need lawyers,

885
1:41:18 --> 1:41:24
we need psychologists, we need therapists, we need pediatricians. So we're trying to put together a

886
1:41:24 --> 1:41:30
network. So although we can't, FLCC can't do all of this, we're trying to put together a network of

887
1:41:30 --> 1:41:37
people. So if you have any ideas, you can email me. We're trying to develop this work we call our

888
1:41:37 --> 1:41:44
HOPE network. So while we can't, you know, do all of these elements, at least we can lead people in

889
1:41:44 --> 1:41:49
the right direction. Because I think there's just so much, you know, you just think of the kids and

890
1:41:49 --> 1:41:54
how they've been harmed. You know, I think of the poor kids, I think the psychological

891
1:41:55 --> 1:42:00
trauma to children has just been overwhelming. And I think they're the ones that need, you know,

892
1:42:00 --> 1:42:10
lots of re-education and re-socialization. You mentioned earlier around people waking up when

893
1:42:10 --> 1:42:16
it happens to one of their relatives. But in many cases, that's not even enough. They still don't

894
1:42:16 --> 1:42:22
recognize it. Or they feel ashamed enough. They don't dare whisper it. Yeah. But you know, I think

895
1:42:22 --> 1:42:29
parents who've had kids can see the impact it's had on kids because kids just haven't been kids.

896
1:42:29 --> 1:42:35
They've been denied the right to do what children generally do. And, you know, wearing masks at

897
1:42:35 --> 1:42:43
school. And I mean, I saw kids playing soccer outdoors with masks on. You've got to be kidding

898
1:42:43 --> 1:42:50
me. So I think the psychological trauma to kids has been overwhelming. And, you know, wearing a mask

899
1:42:50 --> 1:42:56
interferes with facial recognition, which is just so important. So I think we need a lot of counseling

900
1:42:56 --> 1:43:03
for these children. Absolutely. Thank you. For the adults too. Thank you, Glen. Before we get

901
1:43:03 --> 1:43:09
Roger on here, Paul, since we had Cathy from close to Cape Cod. And I've taught Roger this limerick.

902
1:43:09 --> 1:43:15
I bet he can't remember it. But you see, this limerick goes like this. There once was a girl

903
1:43:15 --> 1:43:21
from Cape Cod who thought that all things came from God. But it wasn't the Almighty that lifted

904
1:43:21 --> 1:43:32
her nightie. It was Roger the Lodger the sod. There you go. Over to you, Roger. I'm from Manchester,

905
1:43:32 --> 1:43:40
and it's impossible to insult me. Unless your name is, we won't go into that.

906
1:43:41 --> 1:43:47
Well, you come from Manchester. That's bad enough. That's right. That's right. Okay.

907
1:43:48 --> 1:43:54
The time is going on and I'll keep my comments brief. First a comment, then a question for you,

908
1:43:54 --> 1:44:01
Paul, because I'm a pathologist, as you probably know, not a clinician. My comment is this.

909
1:44:01 --> 1:44:07
Coming to the chase of all these conspiracy theories that are out there, the big one,

910
1:44:07 --> 1:44:14
of course, is that this was some malicious release intended to kill people. I believe that you don't

911
1:44:14 --> 1:44:20
have to look any further than Occam's razor to find an explanation for what happened. The simplest,

912
1:44:20 --> 1:44:26
most obvious thing is the most likely one. And that is, simply put, political stupidity.

913
1:44:26 --> 1:44:36
Stupidity. Most people in most organizations make decisions, whether it's publicly traded,

914
1:44:36 --> 1:44:41
or government, or whatever. Most decisions are made now internationally for a very simple reason.

915
1:44:42 --> 1:44:47
Everyone else is doing it. No one has the time or the expertise to assess these things,

916
1:44:47 --> 1:44:53
and they follow the herd. And the herd became this dogma that we're all fully aware of.

917
1:44:54 --> 1:44:59
So I don't believe for a second that everyone that's been instituting this has got some malicious

918
1:44:59 --> 1:45:04
intent. I don't think Fauci had malicious intent, although he is the most vile man walking without

919
1:45:04 --> 1:45:10
any question. I don't think Gates had malicious intent. What I do believe is that this thing

920
1:45:11 --> 1:45:16
escaped from a lab that was never intended to escape. I've run big labs, you can never make

921
1:45:16 --> 1:45:21
them hermetically sealed. It's utterly impossible. This thing escaped and created a pandemic.

922
1:45:21 --> 1:45:29
Yes, it was genetically engineered, obviously. But then a wonderful opportunity dropped in the

923
1:45:29 --> 1:45:35
laps of the great resetters and dropped in the laps of the Dumbo-crats in the States to exploit

924
1:45:35 --> 1:45:39
in their own malicious ways. And it was incredibly efficient and very successful.

925
1:45:40 --> 1:45:47
So I think that's how we got here, simply because of stupidity on the most gigantic scale.

926
1:45:48 --> 1:45:54
Wokeism cubed, everyone following everyone else, everyone deathly afraid of being different from

927
1:45:54 --> 1:46:03
the rest. That's my opinion on how we got here. But my question, Paul, is very different, very

928
1:46:03 --> 1:46:11
specific. If in fact the general mechanism, there are others, but the biggest mechanism of the

929
1:46:11 --> 1:46:18
biggest pathogenesis is the clot shot, the thrombosis, whether it's disseminated in capillaries

930
1:46:18 --> 1:46:25
or whether it's focal, it doesn't matter. If in fact post vaccination, that is the biggest risk.

931
1:46:26 --> 1:46:33
Why have I not heard, I'm not speaking as a clinician now, I'm speaking as a pathologist,

932
1:46:33 --> 1:46:42
why have we not heard of baby aspirin being routinely prescribed post vaccination for

933
1:46:42 --> 1:46:48
everyone? Yeah, I mean, that makes so much sense. And that would then be an admission that the

934
1:46:48 --> 1:46:55
vaccine causes clotting. I agree with you 100%. It's such a simple thing to do. I think that

935
1:46:55 --> 1:47:01
the countermeasures you can take, aspirin being one of them, and the most simple is because we know

936
1:47:01 --> 1:47:08
you get clotting. But I think it would then be an admission that these vaccines cause clotting.

937
1:47:10 --> 1:47:15
But we're not even seeing Peter McCullers, we're not even seeing anyone on our side of the equation

938
1:47:15 --> 1:47:24
recommending that. Yes, I don't know why. It's a good thing. So, you know, I recommend that there's

939
1:47:24 --> 1:47:29
some interesting papers on probiotics, which change your flora, which is simple. Take your

940
1:47:29 --> 1:47:36
probiotic, take your aspirin. That's the simplest thing to do, because that costs nothing and is

941
1:47:36 --> 1:47:43
readily available. The other makes it a little bit more tricky, but certainly aspirin and probiotics

942
1:47:44 --> 1:47:50
are simple things to do. And also the, you know, what seemed initially like quackery,

943
1:47:51 --> 1:47:56
the whole, you know, McCullers been promoting it very effectively, and Paul Alexander, the,

944
1:47:56 --> 1:48:05
you know, the nasal iodine, hydrogen peroxide routine. I mean, that really needs to be,

945
1:48:05 --> 1:48:11
it sounds odd, it sounds suspicious, I know, but it's not being promoted very widely,

946
1:48:11 --> 1:48:17
just like vitamin D. So, you know, the other thing is turmeric actually has very powerful,

947
1:48:17 --> 1:48:22
any coagulant, any platelets from the lytic effect. So, you know, I think because of course

948
1:48:22 --> 1:48:28
there's so much clotting, these natural seals are really cheap, inexpensive and may play a role.

949
1:48:30 --> 1:48:34
Thank you. Yeah, that's a good point. I think I need to add that to our protocol.

950
1:48:37 --> 1:48:44
Excellent. Thank you. Thank you, Roger. Now, you live in Canada now, Roger, or US?

951
1:48:45 --> 1:48:48
I'm sorry? Are you in Canada or US do you live?

952
1:48:49 --> 1:48:51
Alberta, Canada. Right, thank you.

953
1:48:53 --> 1:48:59
Unfortunately, I consider myself an American, but I'm a prisoner of income.

954
1:49:01 --> 1:49:08
Roger, can I ask you whether you've got any ideas how we hold people responsible for and complicit in

955
1:49:08 --> 1:49:15
these great crimes to account? I don't think the courts are going to be the answer. They're slow

956
1:49:15 --> 1:49:21
and they're mealy-mouthed and they're stacked against us anyway. I think the only hope for

957
1:49:21 --> 1:49:26
radical change to get rid of the principle thing, of course, is wokeism, which has infiltrated over

958
1:49:26 --> 1:49:33
20 years into every institution internationally, but principally universities and junior faculty

959
1:49:33 --> 1:49:39
who are all closet socialists. If there's going to be any hope for redirecting society and saving

960
1:49:39 --> 1:49:49
democracy, in my opinion, the solution has to be politics because politicians have incredible power

961
1:49:50 --> 1:49:57
over organizations that they fund. It's called turning off the spigot and introducing legislation

962
1:49:57 --> 1:50:03
that controls governance. Governance is the principal issue here to try and change these

963
1:50:03 --> 1:50:09
organizations around. Yeah, so I must agree with Roger. So in the US, I think we've lost

964
1:50:09 --> 1:50:16
the federal government, but the state legislatures seem very effective and very receptive to what we

965
1:50:16 --> 1:50:23
saying. So I think that's where we're going to see the turn in the tide. And I think this upcoming

966
1:50:23 --> 1:50:29
elections this year is going to be somewhat of a surprise. So I agree. I think there are a lot of

967
1:50:30 --> 1:50:36
state legislators that are hearing from their constituents and they do not like what's going

968
1:50:36 --> 1:50:42
on. So I think that's that's where we're going to see change. I would add to that, Paul, that

969
1:50:43 --> 1:50:50
when I mean, I know Alex Berenson sometimes is full of it, but nonetheless, when investigative

970
1:50:50 --> 1:50:55
journalists like Berenson and Dellingpole in Britain write what I call the definitive autopsy

971
1:50:55 --> 1:51:03
of what happened over the last two years, the sheer scale of it, the detailed description of all

972
1:51:03 --> 1:51:08
the terrible consequences, not the least of which are deaths of children, when that starts

973
1:51:08 --> 1:51:14
getting public, you know, Martin Luther discovered you can't stop the basement printing press.

974
1:51:15 --> 1:51:21
When that information start thin booklets, bullet format, lay language, when people start becoming

975
1:51:21 --> 1:51:27
aware of the scale of which they've been lied to with the personal consequences for people that

976
1:51:27 --> 1:51:35
they know. I think the degree of revulsion that generates is going to be something we're just not

977
1:51:35 --> 1:51:42
prepared for. I think that will set the scene. Frankly, I'm quite optimistic about things because

978
1:51:42 --> 1:51:49
COVID and the truckers convoy in particular have been the point of the spear, which has made people

979
1:51:49 --> 1:51:57
realize that we have lost control of our freedoms over a long period of time. And when that start

980
1:51:57 --> 1:52:05
penny starts to drop, I think it's a wonderful new day for a new politics, a Trump style politics,

981
1:52:05 --> 1:52:13
left and right merging tradition, values, culture, etc. Family. I think this is an incredible

982
1:52:13 --> 1:52:20
opportunity for a new politics because of COVID. Thank God for COVID, I say. Yes, tragically people

983
1:52:20 --> 1:52:26
died, but thank God for COVID because it gave us something to react to. Without something to react

984
1:52:26 --> 1:52:31
to, you can whine all you want about loss of a freedom here, loss of a freedom there. It doesn't

985
1:52:31 --> 1:52:38
get traction for the general population, but now we have something to react to. And frankly, I'm very

986
1:52:38 --> 1:52:45
optimistic that there will be major changes in governance of all these institutions directed by

987
1:52:45 --> 1:52:52
political change. But if you're going to get political change, Roger, that means that people

988
1:52:52 --> 1:52:58
have got to take responsibility. And that means that people like us have to get involved in

989
1:52:58 --> 1:53:06
politics. And are we prepared to do that? Because we're the ideologue. Well, we're, yes, we're the

990
1:53:06 --> 1:53:13
romantics, if you like. We're not the type of people who go into politics. And also, we're very

991
1:53:13 --> 1:53:21
uncompromising as a group. We're asking huge questions. Let me just point out the ideologues,

992
1:53:21 --> 1:53:29
the creatives in Hungary and a number of European countries, the people held in the highest esteem

993
1:53:29 --> 1:53:38
are the poets. Okay, now just contemplate that, you know, that country's directions are guided by

994
1:53:38 --> 1:53:45
imagination, by soul, by spirit, you know, as Roger said, by values, not by the dollar. So it's very,

995
1:53:46 --> 1:53:52
you know, it's quite possible. Very excellent, excellent questions. We'll keep moving.

996
1:53:54 --> 1:53:59
I'll leave you with one final comment, because I'd like this phrase to be popularised.

997
1:54:00 --> 1:54:07
The scale of what has happened is unprecedented, certainly in medical history, if not

998
1:54:07 --> 1:54:17
human history. And I, I capsulise that in this statement. It's been nothing more than the rape

999
1:54:17 --> 1:54:26
of our soul. It's on that scale of assault. It's been physical, it's been universal,

1000
1:54:26 --> 1:54:34
it's been catastrophic. And that describes rape, the rape of our very soul. That's what's been

1001
1:54:34 --> 1:54:39
going on. And I would encourage that word to be used, because it gets through to people,

1002
1:54:39 --> 1:54:44
the scale of what's happened, cutting to the very essence of our humanity.

1003
1:54:46 --> 1:54:51
Thank you, Roger. Thank you, Roger. Before we go to John Stone, who's a journalist,

1004
1:54:52 --> 1:54:59
Paul, Sarah asked a simple question, but it's a simple answer. You agree that the natural

1005
1:54:59 --> 1:55:05
silica in Fiji water can work to clear a spike out of the brain if you drink it exclusively for

1006
1:55:05 --> 1:55:15
a few months? So I'm sceptical about all of these detoxifying things. They're, you know, heavy

1007
1:55:15 --> 1:55:26
metal chelators, they're bleaches that have been giving IV. I'm not sure, you know, once the spike

1008
1:55:26 --> 1:55:34
protein is in the cell, it's a protein, it has to be taken up by a phagosome and broken down by

1009
1:55:35 --> 1:55:42
enzymes. I'm not sure that any of these detoxifiers work. You have to get the

1010
1:55:42 --> 1:55:49
host immune system to ubiquinate the protein, take it into lysosomes and break it down. That's

1011
1:55:49 --> 1:55:55
the host natural defense mechanism. So I think the only way to get rid of spike is to

1012
1:55:56 --> 1:56:04
improve the host immune system with vitamin D, vitamin C, quercetin, whatever you can,

1013
1:56:05 --> 1:56:10
I don't think there's any other magical way of getting rid of the spike, unless somebody else

1014
1:56:10 --> 1:56:16
has some thoughts. Very good. But Paul, it's not just the spike, is it?

1015
1:56:19 --> 1:56:25
Well, the vaccine has all kinds of things, many of which we don't know what actually it is.

1016
1:56:26 --> 1:56:33
I mean, the nanoparticle has phospholipids and all kinds of things in the surface.

1017
1:56:33 --> 1:56:40
Exactly. We're not sure what's actually inside the nanoparticle. There may be other stuff that

1018
1:56:40 --> 1:56:48
we don't know about. We certainly know, I've come to learn that the hepatitis B vaccine used to

1019
1:56:48 --> 1:56:53
contain mercury and mercury is toxic. It's been shown to be toxic. So

1020
1:56:54 --> 1:57:01
we don't know what's in these nanoparticles. Paul, there's a question that I missed earlier

1021
1:57:01 --> 1:57:06
from Michelle. And with your interest in alternative medicine and the growing research

1022
1:57:06 --> 1:57:11
on probiotics and the microbiome, do you think there needs to be a stronger affiliation with

1023
1:57:11 --> 1:57:19
with quote natural practitioners or alternative practitioners or non strictly medical practitioners?

1024
1:57:20 --> 1:57:25
Yeah, absolutely. I think if you stick to the science, you know, I think I'm not a great

1025
1:57:25 --> 1:57:29
believer in alternative science. I think it's something with sort of medicine, if it works,

1026
1:57:29 --> 1:57:36
it's medicine. So, you know, I don't think the use of probiotics is in the realm of alternative

1027
1:57:36 --> 1:57:41
medicine. It's medicine. But I think these practitioners who have a more holistic approach

1028
1:57:42 --> 1:57:48
certainly have a role. And the data on probiotics is actually quite astonishing.

1029
1:57:49 --> 1:57:58
And it's such a simple thing to do. So we all need to get together and find a unified way of

1030
1:57:58 --> 1:58:03
dealing with this disease. Because we all bring different skills to the table.

1031
1:58:04 --> 1:58:09
Beautiful. And that Paul, that brings me to Kat Lindley from Texas, who wants to comment on the

1032
1:58:09 --> 1:58:13
detox question, because she does a paper to work there. Kat, are you there?

1033
1:58:14 --> 1:58:21
Yeah, I agree with Paul there. In my opinion, you cannot detox against spike at this time. I think

1034
1:58:21 --> 1:58:27
the technology needs to be invented for that medication or whatever. The best thing to do is

1035
1:58:27 --> 1:58:32
strengthen your immune system because your immune system is going to clear it eventually and mitigate

1036
1:58:33 --> 1:58:41
the symptoms. And the best way to do that is probiotics, vitamin D, vitamin C. You can actually

1037
1:58:41 --> 1:58:49
measure that clinically and in lab. If you have someone and you monitor your CD4 and CD8 cells,

1038
1:58:49 --> 1:58:56
you can see over time they're recovering. And they see works really well in something like that,

1039
1:58:56 --> 1:59:04
quercetin, black seed oil. So there is a lot that we know. But in my opinion, and I think a lot of

1040
1:59:04 --> 1:59:09
physicians feel the same, none of us feel that you can get rid of the spike protein.

1041
1:59:11 --> 1:59:16
Yeah. So I think what Kat says is really important because unfortunately, there are people who will

1042
1:59:16 --> 1:59:24
exploit sick and suffering people and will sell them all kinds of concoctions that don't work.

1043
1:59:25 --> 1:59:34
So unfortunately, there are these heavy metal chelators which are being used to treat the spike

1044
1:59:34 --> 1:59:40
protein, which is completely absurd. So I agree with Kat completely.

1045
1:59:42 --> 1:59:48
Thank you. All right. Thank you, Kat. John Stone, who's a resident journalist, Paul, in the UK.

1046
1:59:48 --> 2:00:00
Hi there. Yeah, I just want to, first of all, of course, we've got another problem with the command

1047
2:00:00 --> 2:00:09
structure. They're just going to try and kick it up a notch and give the WHO overall responsibility

1048
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for future pandemics. So everybody, every government in the world will have to defer

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to the WHO and there are treaties being negotiated over this. So in fact,

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while the thing is, the story is collapsing around us, they're already building the next stage.

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And this is very troubling. And of course, also, it's been very difficult to see

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as the narrative collapsed, they switched it suddenly to Ukraine.

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So that nobody, everybody wasn't, nobody was really focused on what was happening. And even now,

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all the things that we've learned in the past few weeks are simply not reported in newspapers.

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One interesting thing, which is non-medical, which has happened, is that, which is going to make

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people sit up, is that suddenly their fuel bills have doubled. And this is going to put incredible

1057
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pressure on politicians. Whose side are they really on?

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Because they've all connived at this. We all saw the pantomime in October, November last year with

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all the private jets descending on Rome and then Glasgow. And the result is that nobody is going

1060
2:01:53 --> 2:02:01
to be able to afford to heat their homes anymore. And this is very much,

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2:02:02 --> 2:02:07
politicians operating against the interests of people. So this is something,

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you know, we're dealing with the fact that they, while they're doing very bad things,

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they are beginning to create levels of friction which people can't stand.

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Paul, that was more comment, but more comment than that.

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Paul, that was more comment, but more comment than thank you.

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And you've got a question, John.

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I wasn't specifically a question, it was a remark.

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Based on some of the things that have been said.

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Yep, thank you very much.

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Something that we need to bear in mind, that I don't know how we campaign against this WHO thing.

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I don't know how seriously one takes it because even national parliaments may think, well,

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we can't actually sort of give up that much sovereignty, but maybe they will.

1073
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Could I comment on that, Charles?

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I want to say two things. The first is that they can sign whatever goddamn covenants they want.

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They can be trashed the very next day with a new government.

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2:03:21 --> 2:03:27
If Trump comes in, Paris, the climate change will be trashed immediately.

1077
2:03:29 --> 2:03:34
The answer to all these attempts at wokeism and the great reset,

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they are going to be utterly demolished by the new politics.

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Once that gets organised and leaders emerge, we now have got great confidence in leaders

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emerging at the right moment, just like Churchill did.

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My other comment is, you can, bear with me when I say this, you can draw a straight line between

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2:03:57 --> 2:04:03
Fauci and the Ukraine and it goes like this. Fauci, gain of function, escape, pandemic,

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2:04:04 --> 2:04:10
pitching to a narcissist, lying through his teeth about the vaccine, the vaccine, et cetera, fails.

1084
2:04:10 --> 2:04:20
But the point is, the Democrats exploited that reality of the so-called danger of the COVID

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2:04:21 --> 2:04:24
to engineer absentee ballots that they knew they could milk.

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Net result, Biden got elected. Biden would not have been elected had COVID not escaped.

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Therefore, we now have a weak president being exploited internationally by the countries of

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the world that we're all fully aware of, namely Russia, China, Iran, North Korea.

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So you can draw a straight line between Fauci and Ukraine. If this vaccine,

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2:04:53 --> 2:05:00
this thing had not escaped, Trump would now be president and Ukraine would not be happening.

1091
2:05:01 --> 2:05:08
Thank you. Thank you, Roger. Excellent food for thought and similar stuff happens on Sky News,

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2:05:08 --> 2:05:13
Australia in relation to some of those matters, but not on the mainstream media.

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Thank you. Thank you. John Ariana is next.

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Okay. I just turned, whoops. Can you guys hear me? Oh, okay. I turned my camera on,

1095
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but oh, whoops, it's not plugged in. Okay. Hold on.

1096
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Here we go. Hi, everybody. Okay. So, okay. A few things. There are three

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medicines, natural medicines that have been able to successfully detoxify vaccinated people.

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There is a point of no return though, and that comes in with the boosters,

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2:05:57 --> 2:06:00
where, I mean, that's when there's just so much toxicity in the body.

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It's like people's blood turns black and weird things start happening. But anyway,

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I've been able to detoxify people up to two jabs and very fast. So the CDS is one thing that Dr.

1102
2:06:19 --> 2:06:24
Andreas Kalker says that it takes about three to six months, but he's been able to detoxify

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people from the vaccines. Then there's a Dr. Perry Chin in Malaysia who's using hydrogen,

1104
2:06:33 --> 2:06:38
and he says it takes about three to six months. So they've had success as well.

1105
2:06:39 --> 2:06:48
And then I've been able to detoxify people in about three to six weeks using my protocol.

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And the main thing in my protocol are the redox signaling molecules,

1107
2:06:52 --> 2:06:59
because it's like it works with the body's natural operating system, like on a cellular

1108
2:06:59 --> 2:07:06
level and on a nanoscale, although it's completely native to the body. So these are the results that

1109
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I've gotten, and this is what I'm aware of that works. And then there are other things you can add.

1110
2:07:14 --> 2:07:20
You can actually create different kinds of protocols, but there's some other substances

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that are very good and useful, like the black seed oil or blue-green algae.

1112
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It's the most nutrient-dense food known to man, and it naturally chelates the blood.

1113
2:07:33 --> 2:07:38
But the key is in the harvesting methods. You have to know which harvesting methods retain the

1114
2:07:38 --> 2:07:45
maximum nutrition, but it's very effective. And then super antioxidants like blueberry powder or

1115
2:07:46 --> 2:07:52
resveratrol is also very good. Okay. Then when it comes to Ukraine,

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I was just deep diving in research, and I'm going to do a broadcast in a couple of days.

1117
2:08:01 --> 2:08:09
So I found there is evidence of the bio weapons that were developed in Ukraine

1118
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were being exported out of Ukraine, smuggled out of Ukraine and used in the vaccines,

1119
2:08:17 --> 2:08:27
the COVID-19 vaccines. They're not vaccines, but the same material that was being developed in

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2:08:27 --> 2:08:38
Ukraine has been used in, is the same pathogens, chimeric pathogens being used in these shots,

1121
2:08:38 --> 2:08:43
at least in the Johnson and Johnson and Moderna and Sinovac. I've been able to identify those.

1122
2:08:46 --> 2:08:51
I don't think it's so much that Ukraine is being used as a diversion. I think it's like

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the Russians are shutting down this threat on their border. In order to keep the balance of

1124
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power, that's kind of how I see it, protecting Russia's interests, but at the same time,

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bringing forward valuable information on these bio labs.

1126
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Living in Finland, you might have a better feeling for the politics of living near Russia.

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The Finnish people don't like Russia, and they got scared into joining NATO.

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Now Finland has joined NATO, and this is the worst thing.

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Could you put your website in? There's a request in the chat. I want questions to Paul first.

1130
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All these are very relevant issues, because Paul, we're going to have to let you go at some point.

1131
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You've been here for two and a quarter hours answering questions, which is magnificent.

1132
2:09:56 --> 2:10:01
Arianna, those are wonderfully important questions, as we all know, in terms of what

1133
2:10:01 --> 2:10:07
this game is about. Let's ask questions of Paul first, and then we can let him go. Paul,

1134
2:10:07 --> 2:10:11
we don't want you to go, just so that you don't feel that you're bound to be here.

1135
2:10:12 --> 2:10:15
My question in terms of managing is, when do you need to go?

1136
2:10:17 --> 2:10:20
Give me 10 more minutes or so, because then I've got stuff to do.

1137
2:10:21 --> 2:10:27
Okay, 10 minutes, done. All right, so Arianna, we'll come back to that. Liam, question for Paul.

1138
2:10:28 --> 2:10:35
Yes, hello Dr. Narek. Thank you so much for everything you've done. I volunteer with the

1139
2:10:35 --> 2:10:44
Canadian Code Care Alliance, and your work has been fundamental to everything that I've learned,

1140
2:10:44 --> 2:10:49
has basically sourced back to the work that you and Dr. Corey have done. First of all, thank you

1141
2:10:49 --> 2:10:56
so much. Second of all, I know I'm well dressed today, I apologize, but it's very comfortable.

1142
2:10:58 --> 2:11:02
I wanted to get your thoughts on, and I apologize if you've already addressed this,

1143
2:11:02 --> 2:11:08
I did come in a little late. We talk about how the narrative has fallen. We've moved on to whether,

1144
2:11:09 --> 2:11:15
you know, at face value, what we're seeing in Russia and Ukraine is true or not, as a distraction.

1145
2:11:15 --> 2:11:24
I have been seeing this new, this variant being discussed in China, in Hong Kong,

1146
2:11:24 --> 2:11:32
seeing this huge spike in deaths being attributed to the sub-Omicron, Delta-Omicron variant.

1147
2:11:33 --> 2:11:39
And I kind of wrote it off over the last couple days as a distraction. And now they're talking

1148
2:11:39 --> 2:11:45
about Delta-Cron. So again, I apologize if you've already referenced this, but the thing is,

1149
2:11:46 --> 2:11:50
could you share your thoughts on both the Delta-Cron and this stealth Omicron?

1150
2:11:50 --> 2:11:57
Yeah. So, you know, I think these are, this is to be expected. This virus mutates so quickly,

1151
2:11:58 --> 2:12:05
and particularly when it reaches such high viral loads. So the fact that Omicron and Delta have

1152
2:12:05 --> 2:12:13
genetically combined is no surprise. And I think this is going to be the story. I'm not sure

1153
2:12:13 --> 2:12:22
we know where it ends, but I think we're going to see recombination of viruses for a long time.

1154
2:12:24 --> 2:12:29
I don't know. I mean, yes, I think this is an issue. I think that they are going to combine

1155
2:12:32 --> 2:12:39
whether immunity following natural immunity. So if natural immunity to Omicron gives you

1156
2:12:39 --> 2:12:47
protection against this new variant remains to be determined. My understanding was that Omicron gave

1157
2:12:47 --> 2:12:53
you protective antibodies against Delta. So there's the possibility if you've had Omicron,

1158
2:12:53 --> 2:13:00
it may protect you. You know, I don't know. I think this, you know, I don't know where this is

1159
2:13:00 --> 2:13:06
going, but I think that the more we vaccinate, the more we're going to put selective pressure on

1160
2:13:06 --> 2:13:14
different mutations. And this is just going to keep on mutating. Thank you. But it's a good

1161
2:13:14 --> 2:13:22
question. I think we're going to have to wait and see. Thank you, Dr. Ware. Thank you. Cordelia,

1162
2:13:22 --> 2:13:31
who's a pathologist, Paul in the UK. Yeah, just back to the aspirin issue. Small proportion of

1163
2:13:31 --> 2:13:38
people will get thrombocytopenia after vaccination, and that can be so severe that they develop a

1164
2:13:38 --> 2:13:46
brain hemorrhage or other hemorrhages. And so if we give everybody an aspirin after the vaccination,

1165
2:13:46 --> 2:13:50
there will be a small proportion where it actually will make things worse.

1166
2:13:51 --> 2:13:57
So it might not be a good idea to give everybody aspirin. It might be a good idea to check the

1167
2:13:58 --> 2:14:06
platelets first. Just a comment, because I do know two people just in this town who had a

1168
2:14:06 --> 2:14:14
brain hemorrhage after the vaccine. And so if they have low platelets and take an aspirin and have a

1169
2:14:14 --> 2:14:22
brain hemorrhage, it can be fatal. In fact, the two I know in just this town, one died and the

1170
2:14:22 --> 2:14:28
other one I don't dare to ask. Yeah, so you raise a really important question. So

1171
2:14:29 --> 2:14:39
ITP has been well described after the vaccination. So it's a good question. You know, the problem is,

1172
2:14:39 --> 2:14:46
is that from a logistic point, I suppose you're right that post vaccination, you should have a

1173
2:14:46 --> 2:14:53
CRP done and a CBC done and see what it looks like. Because there's a small group of people

1174
2:14:53 --> 2:15:01
that will develop ITP. Yeah, I mean, ideally not vaccinated at all. But I'm just saying if you if

1175
2:15:01 --> 2:15:08
we just give everybody an aspirin saying they say that that is probably misleading. Yeah, I agree

1176
2:15:08 --> 2:15:15
with you. Yes, it's a good point. Thank you, Cordelia. All right, Steven, would you last

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2:15:15 --> 2:15:20
questions to you and to thank Paul for being with us? Yeah, I was just trying to formulate

1178
2:15:20 --> 2:15:28
something. So I was thinking about so Paul and Cordelia. So Cordelia is a pathologist,

1179
2:15:28 --> 2:15:37
Paul. So she's a medical doctor, obviously. And so I remember we wrote to the European Medicine

1180
2:15:37 --> 2:15:45
Agency about clotting. So when I say we, Sukrit Bhakdi and I worked on letters. And one of the

1181
2:15:45 --> 2:15:53
concerns he had early on that I'm talking about, February, January, February of 2021,

1182
2:15:54 --> 2:15:59
was that he predicted the clotting, which eventually the European Medicines Agency came up

1183
2:15:59 --> 2:16:05
with. And he told me that the thing about the clotting was that you got micro clotting and

1184
2:16:05 --> 2:16:11
macro clotting, if you like. And in a way, it was better to know about the macro clotting,

1185
2:16:11 --> 2:16:18
because he suspected that there was lots of micro clotting going on, which wasn't being detected

1186
2:16:19 --> 2:16:25
by doctors, even if they were looking for it. So but he also said, and I remember this, that you

1187
2:16:25 --> 2:16:33
get, I think he said paradoxical hemorrhage after all the clotting, because all the clotting factors

1188
2:16:33 --> 2:16:41
have been used up. So Cordelia, I don't know whether you've thought of that. I just wonder

1189
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what you think about it. And also Paul, because you're a professor of medicine. So

1190
2:16:47 --> 2:16:54
so yeah, I must confess, I wish I knew everything I don't profess to know. So I don't know. It's a

1191
2:16:54 --> 2:16:59
good question. But you know, when you have a question, you go look for the answers. So I will

1192
2:16:59 --> 2:17:05
try and look for an answer. So I think, Sukrit, I don't want to misrepresent him, but I think he

1193
2:17:05 --> 2:17:14
was talking about paradoxical hemorrhage after the clotting caused by the spiked protein.

1194
2:17:16 --> 2:17:20
And he told he was also talking at that time about cerebral venous,

1195
2:17:22 --> 2:17:29
cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. And of course, pulmonary embolism and all that kind of the deep

1196
2:17:29 --> 2:17:35
venous thrombosis which leads in the legs, which leads or leg usually, which leads to the

1197
2:17:37 --> 2:17:41
pulmonary embolism. So Paul, I just wonder,

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do you agree with me that as far as you know, looking at things as a doctor now, so you know,

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2:17:50 --> 2:17:57
your clinical, your opinion as a doctor, an experienced doctor, do you agree with me that

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2:17:57 --> 2:18:05
there was no medical justification for any of the measures in this so-called emergency,

1201
2:18:05 --> 2:18:09
which was not emergency. And the measures include social distancing,

1202
2:18:11 --> 2:18:16
masks, and of course, the so-called vaccine, which wasn't a vaccine,

1203
2:18:18 --> 2:18:25
which was okayed by the FDA in the emergency use authorization when there wasn't an emergency.

1204
2:18:25 --> 2:18:34
And so the whole thing was medically unnecessary. And indeed, actually, that means that this was

1205
2:18:34 --> 2:18:40
medical, human medical experimentation subject to the Nuremberg code. We were taught about that in

1206
2:18:40 --> 2:18:46
medical school. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. Every single one of these interventions is a

1207
2:18:46 --> 2:18:53
complete failure and is not based on good science and has been harmful across the board. Yes,

1208
2:18:53 --> 2:19:01
for that question. And so, so we're medical doctors. So, and also I was saying to my own family,

1209
2:19:02 --> 2:19:06
the government are talking, saying, follow the science, which is rigid, of course,

1210
2:19:06 --> 2:19:13
it's rigid compared with medicine. I remember Peter McCullers saying in the same lecture to

1211
2:19:13 --> 2:19:21
the American Association for Physicians and Surgeons, that practicing cardiology in the

1212
2:19:21 --> 2:19:27
practice of cardiology, only 6% of the time were they following protocols and guidelines.

1213
2:19:29 --> 2:19:36
In other words, they were relying on their clinical acumen. And in your field in emergency,

1214
2:19:36 --> 2:19:41
sorry, critical care, you really have to be thinking on your feet as doctors, don't you?

1215
2:19:42 --> 2:19:48
You can't slavishly follow protocols. As you say, every situation is different, every patient's

1216
2:19:48 --> 2:19:54
different. So I just wonder what you have to say about that. So should the politicians have been

1217
2:19:54 --> 2:19:57
saying follow the medicine rather than follow, but they didn't want to say that, of course,

1218
2:19:57 --> 2:20:02
because they wanted to undermine doctors and medical profession. My final question is, do you

1219
2:20:02 --> 2:20:09
think it's possible that there was an intent to undermine the medical profession and medical

1220
2:20:09 --> 2:20:17
doctors and that the doctors were actually set up by these criminals? Yes, yes, and yes. And I think

1221
2:20:17 --> 2:20:23
this idea of following the science is not the science is following the false narrative.

1222
2:20:23 --> 2:20:29
If we had followed the science and allowed doctors to be doctors, we wouldn't be where we are,

1223
2:20:29 --> 2:20:36
because medicine basically is the art of applying science at the bedside. You use your clinical

1224
2:20:36 --> 2:20:42
skills, plus the art of interpreting the science and applying it to your patient.

1225
2:20:42 --> 2:20:48
So we haven't been following the science. We've been following the lies and the false propaganda.

1226
2:20:49 --> 2:20:56
And the bottom line is let doctors be doctors, let them do follow the science and use their

1227
2:20:56 --> 2:21:03
clinical judgment. But do you think that's our best line of attack, Paul, to to accuse governments of

1228
2:21:03 --> 2:21:09
attempting to practice medicine when they have proper training? Yes, there's no question there.

1229
2:21:09 --> 2:21:16
The NIH and the FDA, who are advisory boards, are practicing medicine. There's no question.

1230
2:21:16 --> 2:21:22
They are practicing medicine. They do not have the authority to do so. Exactly, and they haven't been

1231
2:21:22 --> 2:21:26
trained to do it either, and they haven't got the experience. Yes, but they are practicing, indeed,

1232
2:21:26 --> 2:21:33
they are practicing medicine. Yes, so they're charlatans. Yes. So that would might be our best

1233
2:21:33 --> 2:21:41
line of attack. Yes, exactly. I mean, the FDA puts out these guidelines in treating medicine.

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They do not treat, they approve medications. They don't treat patients. Exactly. Very good. All right,

1235
2:21:48 --> 2:21:56
Stephen, enough. We're letting Paul, we're letting Paul go. He's, he's two and a half hours, Paul.

1236
2:21:56 --> 2:22:03
Great effort, everybody. Big, big round of thanks in the traditional way. Thank you, Hank. Hey,

1237
2:22:04 --> 2:22:12
one question, Stephen, are you, did you record this? Yes. Okay, so because there are some people

1238
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who may be interested in listening to this Long Mammoth show. If you could send me the link.

1239
2:22:19 --> 2:22:25
Yes, I will do. Yeah, would you, do we have permission to, to publish it?

1240
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You have my permission. You can publish it anywhere. If you want to send it to CNN, that would be great.

1241
2:22:35 --> 2:22:45
To who? Who did you say? CNN or ABC. Oh, sorry. Yes, yes. Yes, we'll send it to CNN. I'll send it

1242
2:22:45 --> 2:22:51
to Laura Ingraham at Fox News as well. Yes, I'm sure they've been, I'm sure they've been really

1243
2:22:51 --> 2:22:59
happy to play this. Yes. Well, Laura Ingraham is one of our supporters, I think. So, okay.

1244
2:23:01 --> 2:23:07
Thanks a lot, Eib. Is there anyone else you could, you could recommend to speak to us sometime? Is

1245
2:23:07 --> 2:23:12
there anyone in your group or is there anyone in another group that would enjoy speaking to us

1246
2:23:12 --> 2:23:19
sometime? Talking to us, discussing potential solutions, that sort of thing? Have you, you've

1247
2:23:19 --> 2:23:25
obviously spoken with Pierre? Yes, yes. I don't think we've had him as a, a, a guest though, have we?

1248
2:23:26 --> 2:23:31
No, I don't think we've had him as a guest. Actually, we should do that. Yeah, could you put it in a word for us, Paul?

1249
2:23:31 --> 2:23:35
Yeah, sure. So, I'll tell you what, you send me the link and then I can send it to him and then

1250
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he can see what a nice format this is. He's been on our, he's been on our call a couple times before

1251
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and I can always call him and bug him or something, but yeah. Okay. Thank you,

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Paul. Godspeed. God bless you. Thank you, Paul. Thanks, E. Yes. Bye-bye.