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So everybody welcome to today's meeting of Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International.

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This group was founded over four years ago by Stephen Foster, a British trained medical

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doctor with a passion for truth.

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And we've just been talking about the lack of truth in the mainstream media, in particular

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in the context of the knife attack by two blacks on a train bound for King's Cross

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in London.

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Stephen is a seasoned whistleblower activist and he founded this group to champion truth,

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ethics, justice, freedom and health in the face of global challenges.

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This time we remember two unlawfully incarcerated lawyers, Rainer Formick and Arno van Kessel,

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both of them fighting for their clients and both of them fighting for what we're fighting

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for.

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They call on the governments of Netherlands and Germany to release those two lawyers immediately.

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The show notes contain details of how to find out about Rainer Formick and there's a link

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to the video that many people, where many people call on Rainer to be freed.

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I'm Charles Kerb, your moderator.

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I must relate to you as a passion provocateur in a red jacket.

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Red is the colour of passion that's to remind you to only do things that you're passionate

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about.

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There are plenty of passionate people here.

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For 20 years I was a lawyer and 32 years ago I shifted gears.

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For the past 14 years I've guided parents and lawyers in addressing vaccine injuries

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and medical failures.

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As John Rappaport has researched, medical failures are the number one cause of death

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now in the USA.

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I'm also chief executive of an industrial hemp company and hemp is going to be one of

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the ways that humanity digs itself out of its current hole when it's in a hole.

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This group is a blend of professional, of all sorts of professions from all around the

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world.

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Many, once viewed vaccines as benign, now many wear the badge of passionate anti-vaxxers

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with pride.

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Mainstream media still thinks calling somebody an anti-vaxxer is a criticism.

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But now it's a badge of honour to be called an anti-vaxxer and please wear it proudly.

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We're in the thick of a global struggle.

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We call it World War III and medical and scientific battles are only amongst two of the 12 battlefronts.

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Another is the spiritual war that we are in.

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We're five and a half years into this fight.

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We've got at least another two years to go so stay healthy, stay strong, be up for the

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fight and never say to yourself that you're tired.

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And we've got here, we've got here some amazing warriors for truth and ethics and justice.

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Stay in the fight everybody.

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We've got lots of work to do.

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We'll hear today from our guest presenter again, Dr. Jerome Corsi followed by Q&A.

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The tradition Stephen Frost asked the first set of questions.

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Free speech is our weapon to safeguard human liberties.

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If something offends you, own it.

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We lovingly sidestep the outrage culture and the offence culture in attempts to silence

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truth.

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We choose love over fear.

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Fear binds and sickens.

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It squashes you.

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It depresses you.

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Love liberates, heals, inspires and expands you.

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These twice weekly gatherings are far from mere talk.

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They have birthed many real world actions and alliances.

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A key tactic in our fight in holding the bastards accountable for what's been done is exposing

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medical crimes on social media, rallying behind the demand of medical truth now crafted by

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John Rappapour.

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This call of medical truth now can unite humanity in a surge for accountability.

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So we're thrilled to welcome our guest presenter again, Jerome Corsi.

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I don't have one, he can tell us about himself in whatever way he wants to.

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He has presented to us some five times previously and he's right at the epicentre of what's

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happening in America.

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He's an author of some 35 books or 32 or 27 ridiculous number of books.

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Well done, Jerome.

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And thank you again, Stephen Frost, for creating this group.

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Jerome, we are in your hands and everybody for just coming on now.

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Stephen Hatfield, there's been a, there's been a stuff happened.

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So Jerome stepping in now instead of Stephen Hatfield.

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Jerome, we're in your hands.

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Well thank you.

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It's good to be back with everybody here and I'm going to, it's kind of impromptu, but

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I want to go over some of the most recent developments in Israel, in the Ukraine war,

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domestically with the shutdown of the government, with Antifa and other steps Donald Trump is

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taking to get a control of the hard left in America.

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And I think we should cover a lot of topics.

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I'll leave a good amount of time for questions so we can have an active discussion of these

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issues.

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But there's a few things I want to cover that I think are highlight pretty much new information,

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at least putting together things that have been happening.

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I've written two articles in American Thinker recently, one on October 13th, and I'm going

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to put that in chat so everybody can see the article.

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And then I'm going to comment on it.

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So here we go in chat and the article is here.

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So that's the article.

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You can pick it up and look at it as I discuss it.

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The point I'm making in this article is that if you take a look at what's happened in the

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relationship with Israel and Trump has managed to get this really historic ceasefire in Gaza.

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Well it was not accidental this happened.

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And it was, it took some really delicate behind the scenes negotiations and pressure on Netanyahu

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to get this to the point where it's at.

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So President Trump in recent weeks has been pressured to back off support from Israel,

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largely because of an incident on September 9th, 2025, when US military spotted Israeli

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fighter jets flying eastward toward the Persian Gulf.

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And unsure of the mission, US military intelligence saw clarification from the Israeli government.

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And by the time Israel responded, missiles were already in the air taking out Hamas leaders

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attending a meeting in the Qatari capital of Doha.

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Okay, now the problem with this was that Netanyahu didn't bother to clear this with Trump first.

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And Trump reacted very angrily.

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He said that the news stunned the White House and infuriated some of Trump's top advisors

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because it came as the US was waiting for Hamas to respond to President Trump's proposal

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for peace in Gaza.

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And the Axios, whom I don't normally trust very much, but they were doing accurate reporting

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here, especially because it was anti-Trump and anti-Netanyahu, Axios said that Hamas

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officials were meeting to discuss the Trump proposal and that Qatar was actually the seventh

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country Israel has bombed since October 7th, 2023.

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Okay so now Axios later changed its reporting to say Netanyahu had in fact spoken with Trump

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before the attack.

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But again, I'll go with the original story because my information was that Trump was

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furious with this.

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The BBC reported that Netanyahu had not bothered to clear the strike in advance with Trump

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and informed of the strike by US military, Trump was infuriated.

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The BBC reported that while six people were killed in the attack, the Hamas leaders survived

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and the Trump called the Israeli air attack unfortunate, saying killing the Hamas leaders

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does not advance the goals of either Israel or America.

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Clearly both Netanyahu and Trump do not want Hamas returning to power in the Gaza, but

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they also, Trump does not want, did not want the violence in the Middle East expanded when

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he was making a major effort to get Hamas to agree to return the hostages and stop fighting.

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So on September 9th, Trump was flanked by Vice President Vance and Secretary of Defense

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Hegseth as well as Secretary of State Marco Rubio and he gave an impromptu presser to

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reporters outside of Washington DC restaurant.

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He said, I'm not thrilled by the whole situation.

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He posted on his social media, Trump did, I was very unhappy about it, unhappy about

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every aspect.

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We got to get the hostages back, but I was unhappy about the way that went down.

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And then finally, ABC added to this comments White House press secretary, Caroline Levitt

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made the following comments in the Brady briefing room in the White House.

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This morning, the Trump administration was notified by the United States military that

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as Israel was attacking Hamas, which very unfortunate was located in the section of

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Doha, the capital of Qatar, unilaterally bombing inside Qatar, a sovereign nation,

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very close ally of the United States is working very hard and bravely taking risks with us

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to broker peace and does not, this does not advance America's goals.

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United States has a military base in Qatar, which is very important strategically to the

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efforts we've had through going back to the George W Bush administration in the Middle

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East.

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Now, the next things that happened, by the way, the information I have is that around

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the time when Trump was so upset with with Netanyahu, he pulled in a lot of conservative

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leaders, including Charlie Kirk and including Tucker Carlson.

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And he said basically that he wanted them to back off support for his for Israel.

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They did not want them to be cheerleading Israel.

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So when Charlie Kirk and this started now with a big controversy with Candace Owens

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because Candace Owens was criticizing Charlie Kirk for backing off of Israel when Charlie

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Kirk's father had been one of the most vocal Christian Zionists favoring Israel for decades.

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And Charlie Kirk himself was a big supporter of Israel.

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And then you see that we had Tucker Carlson in this interview with Fuentes back off Israel.

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And that developed into a controversy with the Heritage Foundation because the Heritage

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Foundation has refused to disavow Tucker Carlson for attacking Charlie Kirk and others over

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this whole issue of support for Israel.

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But what has not been reported is that this started with Trump and his unhappiness with

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Netanyahu.

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And Trump wanted to pull to communicate to Netanyahu that this was not going to be tolerated.

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And if Netanyahu wanted to continue down this path, he was going to lose a lot of American

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support.

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Netanyahu is nowhere in this war against either Iran or against Hezbollah in Lebanon or against

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Hamas in the Gaza.

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So on September 17, 2005, Saudi Arabia signed a mutual defense pact with Pakistan that could

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not have been done without the approval of President Trump.

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Pakistan is a nuclear nation.

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So Pakistan now has its nuclear umbrella, stretch over Saudi Arabia, and the message

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was clear.

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Israel better think twice about attacking Muslim nations in the Middle East without

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first getting a green light from Trump himself.

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And attending the meeting in the White House was Charlie Kirk, Patrick Ben-David, and

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Megyn Kelly, all of whom had been strong supporters of Israel.

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And Trump was saying, back off Israel.

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OK, so October 3, Hamas agreed to participate in the Gaza peace talks that Trump engineered.

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And Trump called Netanyahu to celebrate the good news.

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But Netanyahu told Trump that Hamas's agreement was nothing to celebrate.

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It didn't mean anything.

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Trump said, I don't know why you're always so negative.

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This is a win.

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Take it.

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Now, Netanyahu clearly wants to destroy Hamas in the Gaza and to eliminate any vestiges

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of Hamas.

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We saw after the ceasefire started, Hamas emerged from the tunnels and began killing

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other Muslims who had tried to take control of Gaza in the vacuum left with Hamas had

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to go underground.

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OK, so basically, Trump has really gotten, you know, and again, Trump has denied this

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report again about saying that Netanyahu is always so negative.

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They're saying that Axios is just trying to fan the flames here.

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But my intelligence is that all this is accurate.

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Trump was livid with Netanyahu.

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And so basically, what I what I analyzed here and I wanted to communicate it to Netanyahu

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that there's really only one course of action open to Netanyahu.

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And that is he's got to clear everything that he does in the Middle East with Trump.

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Trump will take Netanyahu's phone calls 24 by 7 basis.

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And so Netanyahu's got to invoke the wisdom of Solomon here to avoid taking action that

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would turn world opinion against Israel at the moment when we have a possibility of entering

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a new era in the Middle East history.

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Now I don't believe that Hamas is going to go quietly into the night, but I do think

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it's been severely destabilized and and really damaged as a fighting force.

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And also Trump is now in a position where he's gotten attack on a successful attack

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on Iran, which has at least set back its nuclear program significantly.

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And Lebanon has been has also been set back by Israel.

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So this is the first time in the since 1948 that the region has a chance of entering a

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new era where the goal is not to destroy Israel and wipe the Jewish state off the face of

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the earth.

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Now Trump did not get a Pulitzer Prize and that's no surprise given the leftist nature

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of the Pulitzer Commission or committee.

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But Netanyahu has got to take the path here of letting the ceasefire work if possible.

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Netanyahu has been in power for three decades in Israel.

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He's the longest serving prime minister.

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He's held the office three times.

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He's obviously a patriot and a national hero.

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But if he continues on the path of irritating Trump, he's not going to benefit the cause

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of Israel.

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And I think it's time for Netanyahu to to begin declaring a victory and saying that

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he will retire at this point and bring in new leadership within Israel that can take

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a new approach.

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Where Trump is going is Trump wants to invoke the Abraham Accords and he wants to have the

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he's got Wittkopf and Kushner who originally negotiated the Abraham Accords in the first

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Trump administration.

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He's going to try to get the nations in the Middle East to lay down their cause to destroy

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Israel and begin working with Israel because Trump's major theme is going to be peace through

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prosperity and Israel can bring prosperity to the Middle East simply by cultivating the

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economic stimulus of the economic genius, which is Israel, technologically one of the

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most advanced nations in the world and very productive using hydroponics, which Israel

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has developed the Middle East could feed the globe.

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It could have at least three growing seasons in the desert.

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All would need would be water and nutrients and the deserts in the Middle East would produce

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ample food for an increasing population of the world, not a depopulation, which is what

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the globalists want.

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So if Trump can Trump's also got an issue and that if he goes down the path of criticizing

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Netanyahu, this Hamas loving mainstream media will happily jump on the bandwagon of destroying

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Israel's image of the minds of the 2026 midterm voters.

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Certainly the university crowd will rejoice at ingravitas to the mainstream media anti-Israel

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genocide narratives.

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OK, so Netanyahu, after I wrote this article, Netanyahu did begin working with Trump and

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laid down his ambitions to go against Trump's wishes by prolonging the attacks with Hamas.

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And what I was warning Netanyahu trying to get the out there was that Hamas was going

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to do a series of attacks to try to provoke a start of the war again, because Hamas can

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only succeed if there's chaos and violence.

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And if it goes down the path of peace through prosperity, Hamas will not have much of a

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constituency.

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And if Israel continues down the path that Trump is leading, that I think there's a

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chance that Israel could have new leadership from within Likud and unify the country,

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which would, I think, want to achieve peace in the Gaza and also turn to the West Bank

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to see if they could diminish Hamas's control over the West Bank.

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But again, Netanyahu cannot go to war on the West Bank without Trump's approval.

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So it's got to be dealt with very carefully.

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My feeling is that Trump has this situation pretty well in hand, although I don't rule

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out the possibility of another kind of existential threat attack that Hamas might launch, which

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would again be so shocking that the world would demand reprisal and again side with

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Israel in going after Hamas to destroy Hamas.

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Hamas is really on the edge right now.

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And the future of Hamas depends upon violence, whereas the future for Trump and Netanyahu

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and for the Israeli people and the Middle East as a whole lies in peace and prosperity.

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I'd also want to emphasize that from an investment banking perspective, and increasingly I've

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been working in investment banking in the United States to support some causes.

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Like America First, I've joined with Joshua Macias, who headed the Veterans for Trump

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since 2016.

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We created an American First organization and we're now actively looking to work with

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the VA and with HUD to create a series of centers for the military to retire into, to

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transition into civilian life, together with ample medical care, telemedicine, to deal

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with post-traumatic stress injuries, to deal with traumatic brain injuries, and a host

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of other issues that the military have coming out of military life coming into civilian

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life, homelessness, suicide, etc.

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And so I'm sponsoring now and funding different things that will go into that direction.

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So we have published another book I want to mention.

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I'll grab it here for a second.

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We just published Meredith Miller's book, Becoming Whole.

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So that's another book we've had coming out of this, published by Post Hill Press.

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And I found her by one of the presentations she gave to this group.

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And her whole thesis of her book is that, you know, basically we're dealing with a Stockholm

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syndrome and the narcissism in that even with the pandemic, you know, it was an attempt

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at social control, which is similar to the way that narcissists try to capture and manipulate

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those with whom they have relationships by threatening them, you know, very set steps

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that basically she lays out a whole process of how narcissism works, which is, you know,

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four or five steps that you have.

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Let me just detail them for you here.

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She has first step is the, let me just find the perceived acts of kindness.

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The narcissists are always kind and the government said we're trying to protect you from COVID.

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Perceived life threat.

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You know, you can't get out of the relationship or you'll suffer tremendously if you break

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the relationship or you're all going to die if you don't do what the government says.

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Perceived inability to escape.

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Don't know how to get out of the relationship, so you don't know how to avoid being vaxxed.

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And then a state of captivity in which you realize you've lost control.

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And the greatest deception is it's really anti-life programming, either on an individual

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level or on a social level.

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It's quite a good book.

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And I hope she gets to do interviews and gets the publicity she needs to make it read to

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the extent it deserves to be read.

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Okay, so I want to shift down to Ukraine.

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There have also been a lot of developments on Ukraine.

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I wrote another article on Ukraine, which I want to focus on here that I'll put it in

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chat as well.

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And by the way, Jerome, your website that you want people to go to is called 5...

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God's Five Stones.

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I'll put it in chat.

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We're doing a new round of donations.

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I'll comment on that too.

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Here's the article on Ukraine that I want to talk about next.

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And then I'll put in here the God's Five Stones.

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We're going to engage in an active round of seeking more donations because there are

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significant developments coming on in the voter integrity issue, which I'll talk about

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Jerome, was Meredith happy with the book?

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Yeah, very happy.

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I think she needs some assistance in learning how to publicize it.

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I started talking to her about that, but it's quite a good book.

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It's a very good captivating read.

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Once you start reading it, I found it led me forward and held my attention.

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And it's very insightful.

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Do you think narcissism is more common than most people appreciate?

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Yes, I think narcissism is in some ways the bane of our current social environment.

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I think people engage in narcissistic relationships in order to satisfy their own sense of worth.

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We've lost the ability to have really true relationships that are founded upon mutual

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respect.

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I think feminism and a lot of other social movements have driven women into a feeling

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of whether their lives were fulfilled enough by a marriage.

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Certainly, I've gone through it in my situation.

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And long-term marriages being broken up by the women is an unusual phenomenon.

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Typically, marriages were broken up by men having affairs, not by women having affairs.

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And I think it has a lot to do with the narcissism that is at the core of a lot of relationships

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anymore.

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Instead of viewing womanhood as being a gift of God to be able to bring life into the world

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and being a mother to being a profession of dignity, women are instructed that if they're

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not in the workplace, they're not fulfilling themselves.

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My daughter, for instance...

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Even if they're doing the most boring jobs, Jerome, it's just ridiculous.

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Well my daughter wants to be a mother and that's her goal.

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And I'm 100% in support of that.

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As her first child last December, now she's pregnant with twins.

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She'll have three babies under two.

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I'm thrilled.

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Does she know what's causing it?

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Yeah, I think she's got a good handle on it.

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I think she's got that one down, Charles.

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But they want a big family and I think they're going to have a big family.

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And I'm very much in support of it.

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At any rate, Meredith Miller's book, I think, is very important as it does emphasize this

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theme of narcissism.

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Yeah, which is a very difficult subject.

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And even if you think you may have suffered that, you don't want to admit it because it's

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shameful in many people's eyes that essentially you've been made a victim.

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And I think it's actually much more common than we've realized because the people who

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are the victims of narcissism, they don't understand what's gone on very often until

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they may not understand till they die.

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So yeah, I think she first she writes, I'll just read a paragraph or two.

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She writes, social engineering and indoctrination roles from generation to generation.

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The underlying patterns are the same.

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While the messaging and cultural context shift, much like we've seen in the plandemics and

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wars, it's all the same playbook, really reality distortion, psychological and spiritual torture,

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intermittent acts of perceived kindness, fantasies presented as welcome escapism and

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system dynamics updated in cultural and situational circumstances.

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The boon of American cars, advertising, music and consumer culture was engineered to reprogram

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people after the trauma with happy idealized memories and fantasies.

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It was surely a lot easier to focus on the enticing life of convenience and distraction

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than to face the unresolved past or present threats of nuclear annihilation.

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So she goes on to combine the end of World War II and manipulation there, the lying of

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the government with how narcissism works as a psychological phenomenon and how we all

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become subject to the Stockholm syndrome in which we begin to identify with our oppressors.

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It's quite brilliant.

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And I think she's a genius.

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I noticed that.

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And I think I introduced you to her, Jerome.

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Yes, you did.

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You did.

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And as I talked to her, I really decided I was concerned the book might not get as much

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attention as it deserves.

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I thought if we brought it out, we could get it more attention.

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And my past year has been very distracted by personal issues, but my own divorce going

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forward and all the other issues I've suffered since the Mueller investigation.

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But I'm wanting to publish more books out of this group and we will continue to do so.

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Excellent, Jerome.

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OK, now I think your analysis is, you know, what you were talking about earlier was very

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nuanced.

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It always is very nuanced.

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And we need nuance.

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We need people to understand that things are not simple like in the social media world,

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you know, whether something's either true or not true.

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It's often a mixture and it's nuanced and people don't understand the nuance.

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They don't want to see it because it means they've got to take responsibility to understand

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all the things that need to be taken into account.

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Well, as many as possible as far as human beings are capable.

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Anyway, sorry, Jerome.

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Well, I think that's a very good observation.

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And I think the reality is that life is complicated.

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And the attempt to simplify it is not necessarily going to resolve problems.

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And we have, you know, the facing the truth is often the most difficult thing to do.

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And the truth in some of these relationships and what Meredith points out in her book is

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that when you finally see the truth of a narcissistic relationship or the manipulation by the government

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and she goes on to, you know, how many lies the government is told in the in the effort

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to maintain social control and how polarized we've gotten as a result.

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And I'll get to that here in a couple of minutes as well.

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But let's cover some developments in Ukraine because I think there's some things that have

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gone on in Ukraine that people have not understood that are very important to understand right

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now.

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OK, so the last couple of weeks, we've seen that Trump has made another effort to solve

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this war in Ukraine.

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And he had a meeting with Zelensky in the White House and a conversation with Putin

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on the phone.

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And Putin and Trump were going to meet in Budapest.

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But after Trump had a meeting between Lavrov, who is the foreign minister of Russia and

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Rubio, preliminary to that summit, Trump called it off.

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And so there's no point to it.

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Now there's a history here, too.

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And so on September 23rd, all this goes back to September and October were very important

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months, both in the Middle East and with Ukraine.

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They were pivotal months for setting up, I believe, the future of both areas for many

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years.

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OK, so in the Middle East now we've gotten the first step of a very fragile ceasefire,

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but one that I think Trump is going to do everything possible to persist, have it persist.

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So let's now deal with Ukraine.

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On September 23rd, 2025, during a meeting with Zelensky at the United Nations General

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Assembly gathering, a private meeting, Trump suggested that Ukraine could win back all

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the territory seized by Russia, which was an apparent reversal of Trump's policy from

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the beginning, when Trump had said that Russia's gains would not be returned to Ukraine.

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So less than a week later, on September 29th, Vice President Vance was the first to suggest

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that the United States was seriously considering granting Ukraine's request for long-range

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Tomahawk missiles to defend the country against Russian forces.

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Now Tomahawk missiles are cruise missiles, which can be nuclear armed, and they are long-range.

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They could hit deeply into Russia, but they would have to be guided by American troops

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and American guidance systems.

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Now on the same day, September 29th, General Keith Kellogg, who is the US Special Envoy

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on Ukraine, and clearly I've been a warmonger from the beginning, said that Trump authorized

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NATO members to deploy non-NATO Ukraine offensive missile systems that the United States provided.

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In other words, Kellogg suggested that Trump would sell the Tomahawks or allow NATO to

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buy the Tomahawks and then give them, broker them to Ukraine, with the understanding that

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NATO was authorized to strike Moscow with US missiles through Ukraine firing them.

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Now that would transform the Ukraine war from a proxy war between Russia and Ukraine

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into a direct war with Russia and NATO, if not between Russia and the United States,

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because Russia has changed its nuclear and military policies, saying that if a nation

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supplies a weapon that is used against Russia, but that weapon is fired by our troops and

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our guidance systems and our weapon, Russia considers itself at war with us.

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Now that Vance and Kellogg on the same day said the same kind of message that suggests

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that Kellogg was the author of the suggestion that Trump should supply Zlensky-to-Tomahawk

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missiles brokered by the United States to Ukraine through NATO.

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What Kellogg is saying is that the only way the war will stop is if Russia understands

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that we're going to attack Russia and take back the territory, and therefore Russia will

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come to terms to stop the war now so as not to expand the war.

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The problem is that I'm pretty well convinced that Putin has decided that he can win a war

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with the United States, he can even win a nuclear war with the United States.

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Last week he's demonstrated some of these new hypersonic turbulence weapons which could

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cause tsunamis which would destroy coastal cities like New York City.

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And I believe that the earthquake that was set off in September, I believe in September,

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that caused a huge tsunami in the Pacific Ocean was a turbulence weapon that Russia

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demonstrated.

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Russia also demonstrated a nuclear-powered cruise missile that could circle the globe

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indefinitely in a satellite position to be used, called down and used whenever Russia

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wanted it to be put into an attack position.

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So this could create a nuclear cruise missile belt around the globe that Russia could command,

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and we do not seem to have a similar weapon.

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All right, so now on October 13th, and in response to statements from Trump and others

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in the United Administration, including Kellogg, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev made

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clear that Tomahawk missiles supplied to Buzinskoy would cause, would bring us to the brink of

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nuclear war, just as we were when at the end of the Biden administration, Biden prevented

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these attack missiles, US attack missiles to Ukraine, and they were fired into Russia

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with our troops firing them and our guidance system.

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That's what caused Russia to change their nuclear policies.

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So on the day before Trump met with Zelensky on October 17th, he and Trump and Putin had

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a phone call, and that's when they said they would meet in Budapest, Hungary, the next

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couple of weeks.

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And what Putin suggested, however, that Kiev would have to surrender control of Donetsk.

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Donetsk is a region in the Donbas, which is one of these eastern provinces that are largely

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Russian speaking, and Putin does not have control over this Donetsk region because there's

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a number of cities that have been hardened and it's been difficult for Putin to penetrate

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through those defenses because it's really one of the last lines of defense before Putin

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could go into Kiev.

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So then on October 17th, when Zelensky comes to the White House, it's a very rancorous

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meeting with Trump, and Trump is not going to give Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, and

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that caused a complete breakdown in the meeting, which turned into a shouting match with some

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swearing I'm told.

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And Zelensky did not get what he wanted.

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But then things changed on October 21 when the preliminary meeting with Lavrov made it

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clear that Russia was going to stick to its guns here and say they weren't going to cede

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any territory and they wanted Ukraine to cede more territory that Russia had not yet gotten

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in this Donbas region where it's Donetsk.

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Now I think in general, Kellogg has been parked because after Trump came out yesterday,

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our Department of War said it was authorized that if Trump decided to, the Department of War

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had no problem with Trump giving Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, but that decision was Trump's.

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And Trump has not made that decision and doesn't appear ready to make that decision.

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Now Trump has said that the solution here is for Putin just to stop fighting ceasefire

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where they are, and then they can negotiate how to settle the war with some territorial swapping

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back and forth.

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But if Putin is not ready to do that, Trump has got to realize that Putin is signaling that he

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thinks he can win this war.

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And so I'm coming to a number of conclusions that number one, we must not provide Tomahawk

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missiles to Ukraine because it would put us to the verge of World War III and Trump has got to

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realize that.

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Vance gave an interview over the weekend in which Vance said that the United States was not

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going to impose our policies into the war.

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We're going to withdraw more and put more onto the Europeans to support this war if they

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wanted to.

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So what I wrote is that Trump could force an end game by refusing to fund Ukraine with supply

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advanced weapons, cutting back the funding and cutting funding to NATO.

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Without US dollars, this war can't continue.

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And that would give Trump an opportunity to do more of his piece through prosperity and

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introducing that type of thinking into what's really a centuries long conflict between Russia

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and Ukraine over this Donbass region, which happens to be very a strong industrial region of

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Ukraine, one that's been coveted for centuries by both Ukraine and Russia.

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But the point is, I'm coming to several conclusions about Ukraine.

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Number one is Putin is not going to be dislodged from the territory he occupies in Ukraine with

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other nuclear war.

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We're not going to supply advanced weaponry to Zelensky without a nuclear war.

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The only way this war can end is for us to withdraw our support in terms of money, weapons.

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And right now, the desertion rates of the Ukrainian army at record highs.

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And Zelensky is losing his battle to keep troops in the field to fight Russia.

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Russia has been restrained like we were in Vietnam.

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Russia has not used weaponry Russia has.

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Russia has been fighting the kind of limited conventional war that we fought in Vietnam.

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And it didn't do very well for us in Vietnam, but we didn't have an enemy, don't have an

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enemy like Ho Chi Minh that's a guerrilla warfare in Ukraine.

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This is really a conventional warfare with advanced weaponry.

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And I think it can, I think Trump will engineer this to conclusion, but he's going to take

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I believe a more neutral attitude towards it.

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And Putin's going to have to really understand that if Trump withdraws support from Russia,

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Russia even economically is not going to do well under sanctions, with sanctions on oil.

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The BRICS nations are yet formative.

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China is yet in marginal economic conditions with, and Europe is way over leveraged on

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debt.

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So I consider that Europe could be at the verge of an economic crash, especially when

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Germany over the last two weeks actually blew up or destroyed the last of its nuclear power

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plants.

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Germany is deindustrializing at a time when Germany has been the economic powerhouse of

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the EU.

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The EU is going into really I think hard times.

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And Europe is being overrun now with Muslims who are making it clear they have no intention

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of assimilating.

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They want to impose Sharia law in countries like Great Britain.

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So I think that Trump is going to, the Ukraine wars turned out to be a lot more difficult

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to resolve than Trump thought it would be because Putin I think senses that he's got

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the upper hand.

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Putin's won the war.

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And the West is going to have to acknowledge that.

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And a war that we should never have fought, the Biden administration was the one who fought

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it.

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And that was as a result of Hillary Clinton and her having her private email server while

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Bill Clinton was running the Clinton Foundation out of office and they were using it for personal

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gain with people like Pinochek, who is one of the oligarchs in Ukraine that Hillary courted

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and took money from going back to 2013.

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The Maidan rebellion, the State Department with the color revolution, Soros, pushing

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NATO to the border of Russia with CIA having 35 offices along the border with Russia and

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the United States putting a bio weapons lab in the border with Russia.

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These were provocative acts.

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And so therefore I think Zelensky is not about, Zelensky is going to have to realize that

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he's lost the war and by his increasing, Trump's increasing disillusionment with Zelensky that

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started at the first Zelensky meeting and the second Trump term, which ended up in a

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shouting match as you remember when Zelensky misbehaved in the Oval Office and tried to

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say that Trump had to give a guarantee, a security guarantee to Ukraine as a condition

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for peace.

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All of these things I think are falling away.

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The war is going to stop because I think it's going to grind to a stop and I don't think

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either side wants to escalate it at this moment.

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And Trump I think realized that but only after Kellogg had his day in the sun and I hope

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Kellogg is parked permanently because Kellogg like others that we've seen and John Bolton

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is one of the examples of guys who constantly want war all the time and Trump is trying

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to break this cycle of perpetual war, which only benefits the bankers and the New World

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Order and all the other forces that want to control humanity and a totalitarian future

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dystopia.

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Okay, now I want to cover a couple more subjects quickly and then I think we can save a good

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deal of time for questions and discussions but I think these are areas that are worth

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covering.

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First of all, Mondami looks like he is positioned to win the mayoral race in New York and behind

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Mondami is the Democratic Socialists of America.

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Now this is a group that are really determined to destroy America.

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They are, Obama was a Democratic Socialist of America, they're really a communist, neo-Marxist

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or cultural Maoist group and the book I wrote on the truth about neo-Marxism, cultural Maoism

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and anarchy makes it clear that groups like Democratic Socialists of America are going

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into the anarchy phase of their movement.

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Their goals are to destroy the empire, that's what the Democratic Socialists of America

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call the United States, the empire, to replace a market economy with a state controlled Marxism,

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defund the police using funds for DEI programs, this diversity, equity and inclusion which

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is a race-based preference, supporting terrorist groups and terrorist entities, Amos Hezbollah,

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generalizing anti-Semitism and supporting violent extremist groups, promoting foreign

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policies that align with authoritarian regimes such as China, Russia and Iran, that's what

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the Democratic Socialists are all about.

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The funding for them comes from overseas to a large extent, we're realizing that China,

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Soros, others are pouring money into our banking system which has become a sieve for money

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laundering and the circle around Mondami includes a large number of committed Marxists who are

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all being targeted now by the Trump administration as is Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization.

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If Mondami does win, he could face incarceration by Trump and indictment for not cooperating

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to deport illegal immigrants with Tom Homan and his ICE efforts.

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We're realizing that we have had a communist movement that has taken over the Democratic

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Party. The Democratic Party has now moved into being a treasonous anti-American policy

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more aligned with the DSA than with the American public, supporting things such as the Venezuelan

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gangs. The Democrats don't want us attacking Venezuela or attacking drug running in Venezuela,

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they want to have illegal immigrants vote, they want to support the MS-13 and other gangs

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in El Salvador, they want to open the jails so criminals can go out of the jails and they

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can fill the jails with their ideological enemies, aging Catholics who like the Latin

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mass. This ideological warfare is becoming more intense. God's Five Stones, we've expanded

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our breach to go into, take a look at the website, you can see that the people who are

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we have gone into ActBlue, which has been Obama opening the borders with Honduras in

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2014, get 100,000 unaccompanied minors to come across the border, were brought into

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sex trade and organ harvesting. The deal was made with the Sinaloa drug cartels to let

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the drug cartel money, put cocaine in the United States including an inland network

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of distributors and fend all with China. Obama was making deals with China that were anti-American,

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just as he was under the control of Putin, the real operative whom Putin controlled was

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Obama, not Trump. The situation in terms of how all this will affect the country, the

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world, the world will unfold with the election. First of all, ActBlue, the point I want to

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make is that I've got reports from the Justice Department that banks like TD Banks for as

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many as six years filed no money laundering reports really at all and they transacted

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almost $10 trillion of business in that time, which could include money coming from China

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and other sources from foreign sources, contributing into our campaigns and going into the NGOs.

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So the money that came in from opening the border went into the banks and got funneled

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to NGOs like Antifa and Black Lives Matters through ActBlue, whereas the leaders of ActBlue

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would engage in mortgage fraud, they would buy a house for a million dollars in Palo

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Tua, California and get $30 million in mortgage loans from banks. Those really weren't mortgage

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loans, they were just money laundering, getting it out and booking it as a mortgage loan to

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get the money to the criminals in ActBlue. So the amount of money laundering and the

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amount of opening the border where the Democratic Party is now being supported by the child

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sex trade and organ harvesting, by drugs and fentanyl as its source of support. The

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Democratic Party has lost its franchise with the American people as a process of committing

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suicide. So this has gone on since 1917 when things I've written about in that book on

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the truth about neo-Marxism culture, Maoism and anarchy. This is a Russian playbook for

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the overtaking of the United States that goes back to the early days of the Russian Revolution

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and authors who were writing about and warning the United States about these tactics of destabilizing

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nations in order to take them over. Brezhmanov and others who I've read about in that book

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who showed a very systematic plan, psychological plan to destabilize a country like America

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and take it over. Now what I think is going to happen is that Trump is preparing, in fact

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we've led this with Andrew Picatin finding the algorithms in the state boards of election

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databases. A judge in Wisconsin has actually ruled that all Wisconsin state elections have

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only citizens can vote in and they struck down this voter provision where you can get

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a driver's license with a green card and then you automatically check a box and say you're

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a citizen. Nobody checks that and you get a voter registration even if you only have

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a green card. So Trump is going to, it's being prepared right now and there's a debate going

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on within the administration. There's a couple of people yet blocking it. I've been attacking,

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openly attacking this Todd Blanch, Deputy Attorney General who has been blocking Trump's

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agenda and Peter Titken has given interviews saying that Trump needs to fire this Todd

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Blanch because he's not letting Tina Peters be released. No more pardons have come out

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since Todd Blanch said I'll run the Department of Justice. Pam Blondie appears to be working

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out of her office in Miami and only doing press conferences while Todd Blanch is running

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the Department of Justice and this has got to come to an end. But Trump is preparing

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the executive order which will say only citizens can vote so you have to have a voter ID and

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proof of citizenship. He will end this general mail-in ballot system where open mail-in ballot

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go back to the absentee balloting and he'll eliminate the machines that are being used.

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He's brought in to the White House Kurt Olson, a former congressman whose job is going to

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be to disseminate more and more information about how the 2020 election was stolen and

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that started last week with Tulsi Gabbard coming out in great length talking about Chinese

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influence in the 2020 election and documenting how China wanted to flip votes for Biden to

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get Trump out of office. Whereas the intelligence at that time before the 2020 election that

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Brennan had and others had was that Russia was not interfering with the election which

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Obama demanded be changed at the very end as approaching the Russian collusion narrative

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in the run up to the 2020 election and that was when the DNI, the intelligence agencies

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got together with this statement that Russia was interfering with the election and the

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Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. So I think that Trump is putting the troops

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in the cities, he's going to continue doing that, both to get control of these democratic

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cities and stop the violence, demand enforcement of law, have ICE be able to operate to remove

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illegal immigrants which is going to be stepped up now and if necessary Trump can invoke the

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political power to do that. Article 2 powers as commander in chief say that our elections

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are under foreign attack and the military can run the 2016 election under rules that

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Trump sets out and the courts won't have anything to say about it because it will be

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inaction and untaken as commander in chief to protect the integrity of our elections

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from foreign interference. So these things are all in shaping right now and we're following

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them very closely but I think this gives you some of the behind the scenes look at what's

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really going on in Washington and Trump has had a very successful trip to Asia. I think

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he had a successful trip to Great Britain by the way, in Great Britain. I believe a

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deal has been made with MI6 to turn over the British intelligence on the Department of

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Justice's activities in counterintelligence in Great Britain to concoct the Russian intelligence

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scheme and Trump has agreed not to press the royal family's involvement with Epstein which

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is beginning to come out. You see Prince Andrew is no longer Prince Andrew and that's the

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first step which may be ultimately a step to bring criminal charges against him but

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the real one that the British family wants protected is Prince Charles now King Charles

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who also appears to have been involved in the same activities as was Andrew and the

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royal family does not want that coming out and so far Trump does not seem to be pushing

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it but I think the revelations on Epstein are going to continue. It's now I think becoming

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increasingly clear that Epstein was an agent of the CIA and Mossad and he was engaged in

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a massive blackmailing operation. So the Epstein story is going to continue to develop and

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it is now developing into a real threat to the British royal family at a time when the

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royal family is at its weakest point perhaps in history especially with the Islamization

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that's going on in Great Britain and the movement away from British rule to Sharia law which

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will intensify over the next few years if it's not stopped. So we covered a lot of different

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subjects let me end with that much and we'll get into questions and discussion.

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Very good Jerome great work now while Stephen collects his thoughts for the first set of

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questions I want to share on my screen everybody and particularly for the purposes of the recording

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Jerome's excellent website and this is an this for those watching now live but also

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on the recording this is got fantastic information in it I recommend that you go to godsfivestones.com

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election integrity all the topics on which Jerome has been speaking there's Andrew Paquette

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reference there's exposing corruption Obama coup d'etat human trafficking spiritual warfare

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archbishop Vagano comment video archive mission and privacy so gods five stones if you want

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to be informed and great work you do there Jerome secondly Jerome I want to bring to

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your attention Buttonheart Bear. Right yes. And Buttonheart Bear is part of the forever

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freedom movement as a strategy to shine a light on the horrors of child trafficking

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for sex and slavery. I'm very pleased you're doing this thank you. So it's a big deal it's

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a way that people can get Buttonheart and to engage Buttonheart at social media and

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say what's Buttonheart about it's a unique bear's got a heart that every one of them

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is numbered he's got his travel pack and he's got a whole bunch of clothing and it becomes

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a way for people to discuss this problem because most people are not aware of the horrors of

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child trafficking so I'll put the link to forever freedom movement into the chat so

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well done on your website it's a it's a well worthy of study and Stephen over to you for

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the first set of questions. So Jerome I think that was amazing the way you just talked about

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these subjects and just drift around the world and you're American and you're despite the

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fact you're American you're nuanced and so and so thank you for all your work and for

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your thought and for taking yourself seriously because I think that's what you're beginning

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to do. Well I think you were serious before but I don't think you understood your power

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and especially when you survived the Mueller investigation so I think you're ironclad because

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you did survive the Mueller investigation but also I wanted to ask you you remember

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that well they're still doing it of course people are saying Trump's not going to solve

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things you know but if you so and but they were saying it before January the 20th as

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so looking back over the last months Jerome do you think that I personally think that

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Trump is I still think he is amazing I just don't understand how he can be keeping tabs

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on the nuances as well because he remembers things that have happened and he says the

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right thing and doesn't actually he says things like he's very courageous and he can be very

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brave and he takes a chance but most of the time he gets it right so I'm not saying he's

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perfect because AI for example I think he's got that wrong and I think HHS is you know

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I think they're going to start again with HHS but anyway maybe you can point on that.

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Another thing I would like to say I would like to hear what you think of JD Vance so

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as I understand it it was it was Charlie Kirk who recommended JD Vance as Vice President

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to Trump and but I noticed that Vance you know at first I thought there might be miscommunication

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between Trump and Vance but Vance never seems to put foot wrong he even got the White House

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you know when they were at the White House and Zelensky was there and he called out Zelensky

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over the head of the President as I understood it but Trump approved so he always seems to

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get it right he's very young he's the youngest in the cabinet I think he's 40 I think he's

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brilliant and I heard this week I'd heard it before but I'd forgotten that he was a

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Vance was a recommendation of Charlie Kirk to Trump is that right?

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Well it was actually I think more Peter Thiel Peter Thiel supported him and wanted him to

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be advanced I think Charlie Kirk was in favor of Vance Thiel's become much more active in

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Ohio I've been doing a lot more work with Ohio I was born and raised in Ohio and I'm

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doing a lot of work in Ohio right now.

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But a lot of people seem to be briefing against Thiel because of his involvement with what's

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that firm there in the UK trying to get in in the UK via the NHS?

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Yes the Planetar I think is the one you're thinking about the Planetar.

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Palantir yes.

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Palantir and yeah Palantir is you know a suspect firm in terms of how much control that they

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can exert over people I mean there's digital IDs and all these other things that are possible

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are also very dystopian and Trump is fighting them.

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So why would Charlie Kirk be working with Peter Thiel?

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Well I don't think that Peter Thiel was very influential in Ohio in the 20 before the 2024

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election and has played a big role in Ohio recently he sees it as an investment area

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and I'm not endorsing Peter Thiel I think Vance is in his own right strong and you know

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I think he is growing into the role in his interview he made it clear that his role was

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to give President Trump his ideas when asked but then when President Trump made a decision

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to support that decision and that's the correct role of the Vice President.

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Absolutely.

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And so he seems to be doing a job and I think Vance is coming to be more MAGA than he was

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to begin with and more on board with the MAGA agenda but Trump hasn't deviated.

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Now Trump is still facing opposition from the judges, liberal judges and I'm going to

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begin recommending again to Trump that he could introduce legislation to redo the federal

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judiciary which would mean that every existing federal judge would lose their job because

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they might have a lifetime job but not if the job doesn't exist. So we could reorganize

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the federal judiciary because it's not called for in the Constitution. The Constitution

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says that Congress may appoint federal judges from time to time as deemed appropriate. So

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therefore there's no requirement that we have a district or circuit court structure the

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way we currently have it. It could be redefined.

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Who do you think is coordinating everything at the White House because it seems to me

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things are moving apace on, you know, there are so many fields. So he goes on an Asia

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trip and creates another set of narratives. So who do you think is coordinating everything

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at the White House? Is it Suzy Wiles or is it Stephen Miller?

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Well Suzy Wiles has a big influence of course and is kind of the gatekeeper to Trump but

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Trump has got many different people in place right now who are on board with his agenda.

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I think you see that clearly Pete Hegseth and the Department of Defense,

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Tulsi Gabbard, these are strongly with Trump and Tom Holman, strongly with Trump on the

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immigration issue. I think the Department of Justice yet has internal problems to be resolved

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but it's moving in the right direction. There's evidently a lot of subpoenas being issued

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and a lot of grand jury work going on behind the scenes on this Obama coup. And I would not be

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surprised to see Obama be under investigation for treason. Now again whether people like Brennan

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or Obama at that level go to jail, that's going to be as much a political decision in the United

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States as it will be a legal decision but I think they're all vulnerable to indictment and I don't

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think Trump's going to let up on all that area. The mortgage fraud which I point out for Act Blue,

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my associate and friend Joel Gilbert did the investigative work on Letitia James and mortgage

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fraud. The Democrats seem to have been using mortgage fraud as one of their preferred ways

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to launder money and that's going to come out. I recommended to the Department of Justice that

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this Act Blue be put under investigation and it has been put under investigation, criminal

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investigation. It has been put under? Yes. As a result of your recommendation or? Well certainly

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mine and others but I strongly recommended it. Absolutely. And I spoke to the internal officers

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who assigned it so I know it's under investigation. Very good. Jerome you can smell out

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fraud and criminal activity like no other in my opinion. You are, well you have enormous

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integrity as I have seen it anyway and the Russiagate thing says everything to me. As soon as I knew

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about Russiagate I thought wow, Jerome's the real deal even though he's modest. So I just wanted to

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ask you, you said Putin has won the war but it sounds like you're a little bit not surprised but

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I think you would agree that Ukraine was never going to win this war so essentially everybody

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was supporting Ukraine, all the European leaders and all the European people for that matter and

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whoever, they've been actually backing a war that was never going to be won by Ukraine ever. It was

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a cult. And a war that should never have been fought. Absolutely, that as well yes but they

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were never going to win because they were never going to win. The bottom line that has motivated

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that war has been the western part of Ukraine which is under the influence of Germany is still

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neo-Nazi and they constantly oppress the Russian speaking populations. They send these neo-Nazi

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mobs into attack any freedom independence groups in these Russian speaking provinces

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and Putin finally had enough of it. They started to attack the Russian Orthodox clergy and

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everyone paints Putin as being a power hungry monster and certain KGB characteristics of it

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would justify that conclusion but Putin also has very strong Russian Orthodox faith. Yes,

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so he was always going to defend Russia just as America would defend itself if Russia started

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putting nuclear missiles in the West Indies and we've seen that before of course.

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Yes, well we've seen you know the issues that we're dealing with are complex but what Trump is

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able to do and has done is he's cut through these issues with a simplicity that makes them issues

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really clear in terms of what's at stake. In other words if the Democrats want to support

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illegal immigrants voting, criminals in the street being released without bail,

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paying for Medicaid and Medicare for illegal immigrants, all the things the Democrats are

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supporting right now, supporting Hamas, opposing Israel, going woke and gender transformation of

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children before they reach the age of puberty, surgeries that mutilate them forever. These are

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not ideas that an average person is going to accept and so therefore Trump has exposed the

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Democratic Party for what it is which is an anti-American policy and party that I've opposed.

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I wrote the Obama Nation, I pointed out that Obama was a communist and he had been raised in Islam

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and people at that time didn't want to believe it. They wanted to say hope and change.

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One of the points that's fascinated me because I think that Ukraine was another Trojan horse for

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totalitarianism. I think they wanted people in Western Europe and in America for that matter

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to believe that it was possible for Ukraine to defeat Russia. So disregarding the causes of

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what happened, Putin's invasion, it seems to me that Ukraine could never win a war against Russia.

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You just have to look at a map. It's like getting over 20 times the size of Ukraine,

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Russia area-wise. So they were never going to win but the people of Europe and America,

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somewhere in America, it was very important to destabilize them by getting them to believe

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something that was never going to happen and they did believe it within a week of the announcement

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of the invasion. And this is very much like I pointed out when we're talking about Meredith.

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Yes, I agree with you. Yes, that's exactly why I was bringing it up. Yeah.

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It's that the lies told to promote perpetual war. Correct. So people constantly feel

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destabilized. They feel like they're trapped. There's nothing they can do but to go along

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with this agenda. So the main intention in my opinion as a medical doctor, Jerome,

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is to destabilize human beings. Yes, I agree. And exactly as Meredith Miller has pointed out,

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but she hasn't kind of pointed out this nuance perhaps. I think the aim is to destabilize human

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beings and it was deliberate and they did the same with COVID and they did the same with climate

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change and now some people are dropping the climate change. Well, they've psychologically

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tortured people for a long time to believe something that was clearly not true. Well,

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climate change is complete nonsense because the science does not justify it. I mean,

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the fact is carbon dioxide is not the driver, the primary very causative variable of the

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Earth's temperature. It's a minor factor and carbon dioxide as it's increased, it's only

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increased marginally, we're in a warming period and the Earth is greener. Yes. So that's not a

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detriment to humanity, that's a positive. And also, Jerome, it's very destabilizing for most

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Americans and for Europeans observing it to see America of all countries opening its southern

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border and people flowing over the border unchecked and children disappearing and it's just another

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Trojan horse for totalitarianism getting people to think it's normal that that's happening in

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the United States of America when it clearly isn't and also free speech being banned in the UK,

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the home of Magna Carta and all the rest, you know, just crazy stuff. We're going through

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a period of time where the attempt is to destabilize traditional values, create chaos

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and, you know, Brezmanov and others have pointed this out and it's one of the communist

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ideas, it's the communist ideology playbook going back to 1917 or before

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and that destabilizing societies produces chaos in which a small group can gain power

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and impose their totalitarian will upon a society in which they kill those who got them into power

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because they don't want any more change. Correct and they certainly don't want human beings

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to thrive. Jerome, thank you so much for your great work and for your insights and

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for being persistent with your analysis and getting me and others to listen to you. Great work from you.

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Well, thank you, I appreciate it and these are, you know, these are things that I've seen and

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written about and I've been trying to prevent them. The best way to have them be prevented is

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to expose them and to let people see them and I give Donald Trump great credit for that.

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Yes, essentially make a diagnosis because without the diagnosis as to what might have happened

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or what might nearly have happened, you're never going to solve anything and people don't understand

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this. It's the power of the truth and trying to get as close as possible over a period of time

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to the truth even though it may hurt in the short term, you have to do it to solve the problem.

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Yeah, you've got to have a diagnosis that's correct before you can solve the problem.

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Absolutely. And you know, the diagnosis includes the fact that we have allowed this to happen

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and we have allowed us to move away from God, that we have not supported traditional values the way we

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could have and should have and we've got to return to that. So a movement is, I think, beginning to

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reevaluate a lot of these ideas that have produced this globalism and this transhumanism movement

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which depopulation of the earth and all these other crazy ideas. Yeah, one thing Charles,

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can I just mention the crown, the golden crown which they gave to Trump in South Korea

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and the no-kings people absolutely don't understand it, you know, but essentially South

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Korea wants to get as close as possible to Trump because they don't want to be communist. That's

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right. That's right. Nicely the golden crown, I love it. All right, let's, good work Stephen,

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got lots of hands up, lots of people to discuss matters as do I and I just want to tell you,

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Jerome, that in the Murdoch press on the weekend there was a credible report that

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Hummus has announced it's abandoning Gaza. So there you are, I'm just passing it on, don't need

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to comment, but it was in the Murdoch press so it wasn't published likely, I wouldn't think. Okay,

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Marv, then Julie, then Glenn, then Chuck and whoever else, on we go, Marv.

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Hey, Jerome, we in Salem, Oregon, we have a very active chapter of the Democratic Socialists of

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America and the first summer of the Likud's genocide program in Gaza, I attended two

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demonstrations organized by this chapter and the first one had between 350 and 400. More than half

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of that demonstration group were LGBTQ people and I've read that 20% of America's

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population is connected to the LGBT, 20% of us are gay, I guess. So anyway, I'm sure you've

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looked at this, what is the connection between the LGBTQ sympathy and the Democratic Socialists

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of America? What the heck's going on there? Thank you. Well, they just hate the traditional

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values, they hate that, you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So they both have, same with

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the Hamas supporters, I find the Hamas supporters be very strong in the Democratic Socialist movement

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and reach across into the LGBT movement and the universities, which are solidly pro-Hamas. In fact,

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being a Jewish student on many of the Ivy League schools is a problem these days, they're harassed.

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And so therefore, you know, the anti-Israel sentiment has never been higher, in my view,

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since the end of World War II, there was always great sympathy for the creation of Israel in

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relationship to the response to the Holocaust. But today, the viewing of Israel as a genocidal

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nation, the viewing of Israel as aggressive or the territorially mad or, you know, the pressure on

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Israel internationally has never been greater. United Nations is a solidly anti-Israel group.

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The Palestinian movement, there really never was a Palestine. It was the British name for the British

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protectorate, everybody who lived in Palestine, whether they were Jews or Arabs or whatever,

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Christians were considered Palestinians. So therefore, what's been sorted out, I think,

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is that the violent jihadist terrorist organizations committed to the destruction of

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Israel as a Jewish state. That's what has to pass from the earth before we're going to, and that's

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why I'm so much in favor of the Abraham Accords, on the hope that people will see a path towards

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economic activity as a solution to many of these divisions, which I trace back to people like Obama

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who actively flamed these fans of division. He did it with blacks. He did it with,

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from the very first days he was in office with that incident with a professor who was locked out of

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his house and the Boston police were apprehending him. They had that beer summit in the White House

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because the police officer was actually very active in promoting racial relations in a positive

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sense in the police department. So Obama's always been the source of a lot of these divisions

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and Eric Holder along with him, that whole team that he had in place,

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were still suffering a lot of the ideas that were fostered during the Obama years.

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Okay. Thanks, Jerome. I just want to point out that those of us who oppose apartheid are not

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Hamas supporters. I've opposed apartheid for 40 years. It has nothing to do with Hamas. Thank you.

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Well, and I agree. I've opposed apartheid too for equally. I was in South Africa when Mandala was

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released and was part of that whole group monitoring that situation. Those were important

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steps to take. Now what's happening in South Africa again today is another issue. There's

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much more there to be resolved. But apartheid certainly was abhorrent and had to be opposed.

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We've now got apartheid here in Victoria, Jerome and Marv, on Friday, the 14th of October.

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Jerome and Marv on Friday, the Victorian Parliament passed a law setting up a treaty

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with the Aborigines. We now have apartheid and it's going to be a grift of moving money

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to the Aboriginal game, which is all controlled by non-Aboriginals, of course. So apartheid is

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being re-established, Marv, number one. Number two, Jerome, I point out to you and to everybody,

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perhaps with the children's vaccine schedule of 76

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antigens being pumped into children the first 18 years of their lives, who knows what's in that

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combination that then leads to the destruction of natural sexuality and turns them into LGBTQI,

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ABC, FUCK. Okay, so we don't know how that's being done, but what we do know is that the

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globalist agenda and the depop agenda has been around, the eugenics movement has been around for

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a long time. So a great way to depopulate is to have people unable to produce children. So the

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horrors, Jerome, of the ability of people to understand values when they're so unhealthy from

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this cocktail injection into their bodies, in my view, is a crucial element in what we have in

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society. I agree and it goes along with the psychological conditioning that's been learned

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since MKUltra and others that there have been great advances in psychological social control

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and so globally we're getting a dumbed down population that is not capable of

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the true critical thinking skills that previous generations were taught.

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That's especially with our technological advances, instead of having these cell phones

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and everything be great for illuminating and having open discussion, they become,

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you know, these are our social monitoring, this is big government monitoring everything we do.

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Yeah, and John Drozd, who's been on his presenters before, was here last week.

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John wrote wonderfully about the removal of courses on logic and clear thinking

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in the school system, both in Australia and America.

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So John is another one that should, John should do a book too. John's one I would

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support doing a book as well. I will tell him. Thank you.

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All right. The last thing I want to say, Jerome, is I think this Likud party is on their way to

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destroying the Israeli experiment and I don't see how they can be headed off at this juncture.

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They're just destroying, they're destroying cultures in the mid-east. I mean, that psychopathic,

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yeah, I think it's, I think it's, we're going to watch the end of the Israeli experiment.

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Okay, thanks. Very good.

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I'm not sure, the one thing about Israeli politics is it's so contentious

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at all times that as soon as Likud looks like it's this strong, there'll be reaction against it.

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And I think if Netanyahu does step down, which I think is getting to be time, that Likud will not

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be as, it will moderate and Israeli politics will have it moderate. The Israeli people,

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I believe, want peace and they do not want to alter the original, the cultures around them.

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There's no attempt to say that they want to eliminate Islam, they want Islam to go through

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a reformation. That's fundamentally the cause. So like all the other major religions, renounces

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the ideas that infidels have to be killed. Christianity had to go through the same thing

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and Islam will have to do it as well. But the point is that the cultures can remain strong

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under the Abraham Accords because you'll still have, you know, the Saudis will be different than

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the, you know, than the people in Jordan or Egypt, they'll all have their own cultures.

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But the fundamental idea, it's got to be the renunciation of the idea that Israel is a Jewish

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state has to be destroyed. That's the one idea that has to be agreed on.

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Thanks, Marv. Good thought provoking questions and what we do here. We love those who have

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different opinions to us. It's a great challenge of Christianity, you know, it's great. We're

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fantastic at loving those who agree with us. The great challenge isn't it, Jerome,

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and Marv is loving people who disagree with us. So that's the whole value of debate and discussion

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is not it's to examine ideas. Yeah. Excellent. Julie, Julie is fighting a great fight, Jerome,

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as you know, in the state of California or the fact that the Communist Republic of California.

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It sure is tell you fighting the fight here for sure. And yeah, Marv, I tell you in Chico,

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we have DSA. It's like the all of our liberals here are part of that communist organization and

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go look up Stonewall Alliance. That's where they are downtown Chico here,

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giving free monkey pock shots and free gift cards to get STD tested. So they're quite horrifying,

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even though we've run most of them off the council. So but I digress. So what a way to

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practice medicine. I know. Horrifying. So yeah, so and I, you know, I had all these juicy questions

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for Hatfield. So I hope the man comes and apologizes to Dr. Frost. Are we getting back on?

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But and I'm glad Dr. Corsi that you're here because I've been thinking about you with this

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whole Charlie Kirk assassination. You know, when you reviewed your book, The Final Analysis,

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with us, I don't know when that was, but everything about the JFK assassination was a lie,

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like everything. And you pointed out so well in your book. And in fact, I sent that book to

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my brother who's a high school teacher and said, dude, everything you're teaching your kids is a

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lie. Maybe you ought to read this book. So now here we are. And they lied about, you know, JFK,

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RFK, MLK. Now people are like calling this CJK. You're lying about this too. So, you know, are we

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going to be here like 50 years from now and having Jerome Corsi grandchildren writing books going,

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hey, all this stuff, you know, was a big old lie. This 20 year old kid did not shoot Charlie Kirk

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with the 30-06. I mean, it's outrageous. All these lies being told to us by a lot of the head people

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of the TPUSA as well. And I it's funny because I don't have a dog in this fight so much other than

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I'm big on truth and transparency now. So I look at everything. I watch it all. And I've been watching

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Candace Owens this past week. She's exposing a ton of truth. So I just encourage everybody to kind

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of keep an open mind. But my question for you is, and then in Cash Patel, watching his hands,

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director of PI, nope, sorry, no foreign interference. Let's just move on. Really? No,

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we're not moving on. I don't want my grandchildren to be going, this is outrageous. So do you see a

952
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lot of parallels with the Charlie Kirk and the JFK with all of this, you know, nonsense? And

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do you see that we might get actual truth with Charlie Kirk's murder? Are we just going to

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lock up this kid in jail, call it a day, and then go on and just be done with it? So thanks again

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for being here. I really appreciate listening to you. Well, I mean, it's clear that the official

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explanation of the Charlie Kirk assassination does not hold true. There's too many loopholes,

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and there are too many parts that are not answered. Now, the kid assembled the white weapon and

958
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disassembled the weapon. And this is a Mauser from World War II with a scope on it. That's a weapon

959
1:32:02 --> 1:32:09
that would take a true expert to pull off that kind of a shot, and certainly would not be the

960
1:32:09 --> 1:32:15
weapon of choice of a professional assassin who would have laser-guided, you know,

961
1:32:15 --> 1:32:20
ballistics to be able to shoot from and would choose other weaponry. The whole thing doesn't

962
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make a lot of sense. And the attempt to suppress questioning and investigation

963
1:32:27 --> 1:32:34
doesn't make a lot of sense either. So, you know, right now the attempt to make Charlie Kirk into a

964
1:32:34 --> 1:32:40
martyr and to forget about all these questions about who really did it and all the things that

965
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show up in the videos that are not been answered. So I think it's going to be very hard to get the

966
1:32:47 --> 1:32:53
truth of Charlie Kirk right now. But I'm not believing the official story.

967
1:32:55 --> 1:33:00
Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you all. Oh, by the way, I was going to say, so Shasta is

968
1:33:00 --> 1:33:05
hooking up Meredith and I so that Meredith can come on our Twitter space and do a promo on her

969
1:33:05 --> 1:33:11
book. So thank you for Shasta Erickson. Thank you. Shasta and Meredith can come and speak to us again

970
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if she likes. Is Shasta on the call? That's a good idea, Stephen. Get Meredith to talk about the book.

971
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Great idea. Yeah, it's very important because people need to be told this over and over again

972
1:33:23 --> 1:33:29
because it doesn't, it doesn't, they don't want to believe it. She's very good on it. She's very good

973
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on it. And she's excellent. Yeah. And I think she's a victim herself. Yes, she is. She is.

974
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And that's why she understands it so well. All right. So Julie, you know, the question of

975
1:33:43 --> 1:33:47
Charlie Kirk, Jerome, you weren't here when we had Rob McCoy on here, but

976
1:33:49 --> 1:33:55
Charlie was born on my birthday. So there you are. Okay. Like I'm a CK. All right.

977
1:33:55 --> 1:34:01
So all the other way around, Charles, you know, you were born on his birthday. Maybe he was.

978
1:34:01 --> 1:34:08
No, bullshit. I was born first. I got cramped, Stephen. Okay, let's move on. Let's move on.

979
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Over to you, Glen. Hi, Jerome. Good seeing you again. Glen, how are you? I'm good. Mine's going

980
1:34:17 --> 1:34:25
to be really quite precise. So you have a mountain of facts and other areas. I want to sort of

981
1:34:26 --> 1:34:34
really focus on some that you and I have discussed and agree on. And that's that there is a evil elite

982
1:34:36 --> 1:34:45
that is both in power and spiritually driven. That evil elite is a mix of

983
1:34:46 --> 1:34:55
the Rockefellers, the Soros's led by George Soros and Bill Gates, the US deep state, you know,

984
1:34:55 --> 1:35:04
all the prior presidents prior to Donald Trump, where Donald Trump is the real deal for not being

985
1:35:04 --> 1:35:14
part of the deep state. And that, to some extent, lower level patsy set is the Democratic communist

986
1:35:15 --> 1:35:24
party. And they're paid for rhinos. Now, if we if we look what they have done over several decades,

987
1:35:24 --> 1:35:33
they they they they're not partial, they they buy out everybody. They never want to lose because

988
1:35:33 --> 1:35:38
they've always got a bet down on something. And so wherever that is, they'll just double down and

989
1:35:38 --> 1:35:44
double down and double down once they start to come into power. The Democratic Party is starting

990
1:35:44 --> 1:35:51
to collapse. And so they have to be thinking of, gee, what are we going to do around the next wave

991
1:35:51 --> 1:35:59
of things that are going on? And the movement by Charlie Kirk was that wave that that wave of gen

992
1:35:59 --> 1:36:09
z's that, you know, had to live through the the the woke cycle, lived through not having a real high

993
1:36:09 --> 1:36:15
school set of friends and activities. And now in college and somewhat limited, even as they started

994
1:36:15 --> 1:36:22
college. So they they're ready to throw the book out and start over. And and Charlie was that

995
1:36:22 --> 1:36:30
connection, both spiritually and with a simple set of ideas to to believe in. And and clearly,

996
1:36:30 --> 1:36:35
the evil elite, Soros and the Rockefellers will put them at the top. They can't allow that to work.

997
1:36:35 --> 1:36:41
And in the same way as as when the Canadian truckers initially started to have success. And

998
1:36:41 --> 1:36:47
then even after that, the Canadian Canadian veterans, they took out their best agents.

999
1:36:47 --> 1:36:53
They sent them in to penetrate those organizations, and then they tore them apart from the inside out.

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1:36:54 --> 1:37:00
And once they completed that with Canadians, they did the same thing to the U.S. trucker effort.

1001
1:37:00 --> 1:37:08
So I'm I'm deeply, deeply worried here that that they're doing this with the only success,

1002
1:37:09 --> 1:37:15
big new success story that we've had, and that is with Gen Z and Charlie Kirk effort, and that that

1003
1:37:15 --> 1:37:24
the the turning point organization is under attack and and potentially very vulnerable.

1004
1:37:24 --> 1:37:32
Vulnerable and one place for that vulnerability is with the kind of things that Tucker Carlson

1005
1:37:32 --> 1:37:39
has been bringing forward and trying to get so much of the U.S. population into believing that

1006
1:37:40 --> 1:37:47
the nation of Israel and Netanyahu are evil. And he's they aren't they're quite biblical.

1007
1:37:47 --> 1:37:55
And in fact, the combination of Christians and and and the Jewish faith and the state of Israel is

1008
1:37:55 --> 1:38:01
is so prominent in the Bible and in the discussion of the olive tree, where the

1009
1:38:02 --> 1:38:07
the Jewish side is the roots to the olive tree and the Christians are those that are grafted on.

1010
1:38:07 --> 1:38:14
And yes, there are parts of the question. Hold on, please. Excuse me. No, you've talked for five

1011
1:38:14 --> 1:38:19
minutes now. It's not I've said I've set it up. You're going to have to listen.

1012
1:38:19 --> 1:38:27
Well, we want the question. OK, so so Jerome, that the the issue with Tucker Carlson and

1013
1:38:28 --> 1:38:33
and the danger that he may be to the entire structure of turning point,

1014
1:38:35 --> 1:38:42
do you agree that that he's a problem and a risk around undoing so much of the strong elements of

1015
1:38:42 --> 1:38:48
that have happened with with that movement? I don't really understand why Tucker has

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1:38:49 --> 1:38:56
gone as extreme as he has on Israel. That to me is a surprise. And I agree with you. I think that

1017
1:38:57 --> 1:39:05
that Netanyahu has played a historical biblical role. I do think it's I think it may be time for

1018
1:39:05 --> 1:39:12
Netanyahu to retire. I'm getting some of the credible sources that I trust in Israel to

1019
1:39:12 --> 1:39:18
express to me the same idea that there is a sense that he's done his job.

1020
1:39:19 --> 1:39:24
And now it's time for new leadership in a new era. And I think that we're seeing that

1021
1:39:26 --> 1:39:31
with with the Abraham Accords being reject Kellogg and embrace the Abraham Accords,

1022
1:39:31 --> 1:39:37
I think is a solution and then develop the region, which can be done through a private capital.

1023
1:39:37 --> 1:39:39
I'm very interested in thinking a lot about how that can happen.

1024
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But the point is that I think that the turning point organization, you're right, was very, very

1025
1:39:48 --> 1:39:54
threatening to this New World Order movement. And the assassination of Charlie Cook, I think,

1026
1:39:54 --> 1:40:02
has backfired in that it has deepened the at least for now the impact of turning point USA

1027
1:40:02 --> 1:40:09
on college campuses. And the Hamas leadership is being exposed for what it is, which is essentially

1028
1:40:09 --> 1:40:15
a hate movement. So I think that the universities are one of the next things on the agenda to be

1029
1:40:15 --> 1:40:20
dealt with. And I believe that Donald Trump will begin looking at endowments being taxed,

1030
1:40:20 --> 1:40:29
he'll be again looking at cutting government funding of tuition loans, which Obama put into place.

1031
1:40:31 --> 1:40:36
But the point is, I think we're at a turning point in history where the destruction of the

1032
1:40:36 --> 1:40:42
Democratic Party is necessary in order to reject this globalism. But the evil is very intense,

1033
1:40:42 --> 1:40:48
as we discussed here, including like as Charles has mentioned with these new agendas with the

1034
1:40:48 --> 1:40:52
Aborigines. I mean, these people are not going to give up easy. And so therefore, we got to,

1035
1:40:52 --> 1:40:58
it's going to be a continuing battle. But it's one for the moment, I think we are winning.

1036
1:40:59 --> 1:41:06
And the Democratic Party is self-destructing. And I don't think that the this evil hate group

1037
1:41:06 --> 1:41:12
is going to win in the final analysis. I think God wins in the final analysis. But I do think

1038
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we're into a spiritual battle. And that spiritual battle has to be fought in spiritual terms.

1039
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Very small follow on. For the benefit of the US and the world, do you think that we would be better

1040
1:41:26 --> 1:41:32
off if Tucker Carlson shut off his microphone relative to Israel? Well, I think Tucker Carlson

1041
1:41:32 --> 1:41:39
ought to have a say and let him express his point of view. I don't I think I was disappointed to

1042
1:41:39 --> 1:41:47
see the Heritage Foundation not take a stronger position about Tucker. But I think Tucker is not

1043
1:41:47 --> 1:41:54
going to win the debate the way I think Tucker is hurting his own brand at the moment. And so

1044
1:41:54 --> 1:42:01
therefore, I would advise him to reevaluate his own position. But I don't think silencing him is

1045
1:42:01 --> 1:42:09
a solution either. Well, I was saying to that we pushed it on him that but that was self self

1046
1:42:09 --> 1:42:16
assessment of what he is doing. Yeah, recognizing the danger he's doing to all of us. I think if he

1047
1:42:16 --> 1:42:23
would reassess it, it would be very valuable for him to rethink this whole issue. Okay, thank you

1048
1:42:23 --> 1:42:32
very much. Thank you, Glenn. Hey, Chuck. Hi, Jerome, nice to meet you. I've never attended any of your

1049
1:42:32 --> 1:42:43
speeches or presentations before. And I'm, you know, I appreciate your perspective that the

1050
1:42:43 --> 1:42:51
Democratic Party is in some kind of collapse and the Republican Party will triumph and

1051
1:42:53 --> 1:43:00
wonderful things will be accomplished under President Trump. I'm not bullish like you are

1052
1:43:00 --> 1:43:08
on that. And but but like Glenn raised this issue of a globalist power elite, I certainly accept that.

1053
1:43:08 --> 1:43:15
And so I subscribe to the ideas of David Hughes. And he coined the term Omni War. And he frames

1054
1:43:16 --> 1:43:23
the situation as class war by the super powerful plutocratic elite, which in my view,

1055
1:43:24 --> 1:43:30
plays kabuki theater between the Democrats and Republicans to divide and conquer people and keep

1056
1:43:30 --> 1:43:39
us in a state of shock and awe off kilter as someone observed. So I think the big threat to

1057
1:43:39 --> 1:43:50
humankind is coming from the transhumanists, the technocracy, which are front for, again, this

1058
1:43:50 --> 1:43:59
powerful elite. So I guess what I'm, you know, my question to you is, and I'll say this, that

1059
1:43:59 --> 1:44:10
Catherine Austin Fitz is kind of subscribes to this devolution of power theory to and the empowerment

1060
1:44:10 --> 1:44:17
of the local areas, which means a democracy movement. Do you see, I think the only antidote

1061
1:44:17 --> 1:44:25
to the people that brought us 9-11 that killed JFK, the power behind the military industrial

1062
1:44:25 --> 1:44:31
complex are playing out today. And they've given us the COVID event to test compliance.

1063
1:44:31 --> 1:44:36
And that's all came down through Department of Defense. It's not just corporations doing it.

1064
1:44:36 --> 1:44:44
This is a complete control and possession by this powerful plutocracy. I can't see any other

1065
1:44:45 --> 1:44:52
way to respond than to counsel that there be an authentic real democracy movement of a mass

1066
1:44:52 --> 1:44:58
movement. And that means that people have to take agency in a civic, in a political sense.

1067
1:44:59 --> 1:45:05
And again, I'm not confident that Donald is going to be a great liberator. But those are my thoughts.

1068
1:45:06 --> 1:45:11
And do you have your faith in just return to traditional values and

1069
1:45:13 --> 1:45:17
a technocracy or are you against a technocracy? I mean, because that is the plan for Gaza,

1070
1:45:17 --> 1:45:26
apparently. Well, I think that first of all, the greater civic involvement is required. And the

1071
1:45:26 --> 1:45:32
left has taken over the school boards and the city councils and all the powers of position. Soros has

1072
1:45:32 --> 1:45:37
funded prosecutors who don't believe in prosecuting crimes. I mean, there's been a lot done to

1073
1:45:37 --> 1:45:44
undermine local and state and local control. Put it in the hands, especially in cities of this,

1074
1:45:45 --> 1:45:53
this leftist group which aligns itself with the globalists. But it's not the same as the globalists.

1075
1:45:53 --> 1:45:59
Globalists would ultimately destroy the woke left if the globalists got power the way they want it.

1076
1:46:00 --> 1:46:06
I don't believe Donald Trump is going to solve all problems. Donald Trump is mostly

1077
1:46:07 --> 1:46:14
important for setting out the themes that he is articulating, as I think great leadership has to do,

1078
1:46:15 --> 1:46:22
is articulating the issues so that people get it and get on the right side of issues. And that's,

1079
1:46:22 --> 1:46:27
I think, what he's trying to do. I'm not confident. The Republican Party is no solution either. The

1080
1:46:27 --> 1:46:35
Republican Party has massive corruption in it. And I've never been a Republican as such. I wanted

1081
1:46:35 --> 1:46:44
the MAGA movement because I have opposed globalism. And I believe we do need grassroots

1082
1:46:44 --> 1:46:50
involvement for a democracy movement, although people continue to use the word democracy.

1083
1:46:51 --> 1:46:55
And I'm kind of in agreement with the ancient Greeks. Democracy scares me as much as

1084
1:46:55 --> 1:47:02
totalitarianism does. I think that Aristotle's solution of a constitutional republic,

1085
1:47:03 --> 1:47:08
in which we are, which we are supposed to be, is the only real form of government that has any

1086
1:47:08 --> 1:47:15
chance of stability and with a strong middle class. That was Aristotle's solution. I've always agreed

1087
1:47:15 --> 1:47:21
with that. So again, I think we're going through a dark period of time, and it's especially

1088
1:47:21 --> 1:47:28
dangerous because of the technological advances we have, which empower the ability for massive

1089
1:47:28 --> 1:47:35
surveillance that was never before imaginable as possible. So the tools of totalitarianism are

1090
1:47:35 --> 1:47:40
certainly much more available than they ever were. And the question is, are we going to be able to

1091
1:47:40 --> 1:47:47
preserve individual liberties in this kind of a technological era? So I'm not relying upon Donald

1092
1:47:47 --> 1:47:55
Trump, but I am appreciating these articulating values that counter the control over the narrative

1093
1:47:55 --> 1:48:03
that the left has had since at least, you know, before World War I. Certainly with Woodrow Wilson,

1094
1:48:03 --> 1:48:07
the left started controlling the narrative in this country and tilting it more and more towards

1095
1:48:07 --> 1:48:16
Hegelianism and Marxism. And it hasn't stopped. Thank you, Jerome. Excellent thinking. And I think

1096
1:48:16 --> 1:48:22
it was someone in this meeting, Jerome, who introduced me to the simple statement that

1097
1:48:23 --> 1:48:32
democracy is the tyranny of the 51% over the 49%. Right. That's right. Nice idea. You know, it's

1098
1:48:33 --> 1:48:41
all right. On with thank you. Thank you, Chuck. Karen. Hello. Thank you. Jerome, you may have

1099
1:48:41 --> 1:48:46
covered your camera on by any chance or does it not work? No, I don't have it on. You want to

1100
1:48:46 --> 1:48:55
see me in my nightgown? It's Sunday. I don't do anything on Sunday. Okay. Anyhow, you may have

1101
1:48:55 --> 1:49:02
covered this, but I didn't hear all of your coverage on Mamdani. I come from Tennessee,

1102
1:49:03 --> 1:49:11
and US Representative Andy Ogles from Tennessee has been sounding the alarm about the fact that

1103
1:49:11 --> 1:49:18
Mamdani falsified his application for US citizenship. And he's written

1104
1:49:19 --> 1:49:28
a letter to AG Pam Bondi months ago. Nothing's been done about it. And he's kind of reigniting

1105
1:49:28 --> 1:49:36
the fire because of the election next week. You know, it's very obvious that he did falsify his

1106
1:49:36 --> 1:49:43
application for US citizenship. And I'm wondering why nobody is taking this seriously. I mean,

1107
1:49:43 --> 1:49:51
sitting back and waiting for him to try to stop ICE from taking immigrants. You know, I don't

1108
1:49:51 --> 1:49:56
understand why they're not actively. The man is not only a threat to New York City, he is a threat

1109
1:49:56 --> 1:50:04
to the United States. You know, New York City is the hub of the economy or economics in the United

1110
1:50:04 --> 1:50:11
States. So that, you know, I just don't understand why they're just not taking the hard stand

1111
1:50:12 --> 1:50:16
doing the investigation, taking away his US citizenship and deporting the man.

1112
1:50:18 --> 1:50:25
Well, that should be done. And again, the left has tried to protect all these people. Brennan

1113
1:50:25 --> 1:50:30
was yet resisting over the weekend, gave statements about how he had done nothing wrong,

1114
1:50:30 --> 1:50:36
and that he was very upset at being confronted with the intelligence assessments on Russian

1115
1:50:36 --> 1:50:43
collusion and how he manipulated those. I mean, the pressure is not to do anything when it comes

1116
1:50:43 --> 1:50:49
to investigating somebody like Mondami. But clearly the issue of his eligibility is going

1117
1:50:49 --> 1:50:55
to be taken more seriously if he does win. And, you know, I pressed the issue of eligibility with

1118
1:50:55 --> 1:51:00
Obama and found the birth certificate in Hawaii from which has it been copied.

1119
1:51:01 --> 1:51:08
We then, the Sheriff Arpaio validated through forensic work that Obama's birth certificate was

1120
1:51:08 --> 1:51:17
a forgery. So again, you know, this is not going to go away. And I think right at the moment,

1121
1:51:18 --> 1:51:28
there's a hope that both in New York and New Jersey that we might see Republican wins that would

1122
1:51:29 --> 1:51:35
be historic, both in the governor race in New Jersey and in the mayoral race in New York.

1123
1:51:36 --> 1:51:43
Cuomo seems to be gaining ground. But again, these issues are not going to go away if Mondami

1124
1:51:43 --> 1:51:48
wins. They're going to intensify because the pressure to remove him is going to intensify

1125
1:51:48 --> 1:51:55
the more he does take steps to enact what he's threatened to do, which will have

1126
1:51:55 --> 1:52:00
potential criminal consequences. And the issue of eligibility is not going to go away.

1127
1:52:02 --> 1:52:08
I know Governor Hochul just said, I think it was Friday, that she would not allow him to

1128
1:52:09 --> 1:52:14
increase taxes on the rich. Of course, I don't trust her either. But she was asked the question

1129
1:52:14 --> 1:52:21
about Mondami's proposal of I think a 2% tax on the rich. And she said that she would never

1130
1:52:21 --> 1:52:28
approve that. And the thing with Obama, I was very, very involved myself with the birth certificate

1131
1:52:28 --> 1:52:37
and all that. And one of the things that people forget is a natural born citizenship in the days

1132
1:52:37 --> 1:52:44
of our founders was transferred from father to children. This is written in the law of nations.

1133
1:52:44 --> 1:52:54
It's very clear that natural born citizenship is transferred from the father and to the children.

1134
1:52:54 --> 1:52:59
It doesn't matter where you're born. If your father is an American citizen, like John McCain,

1135
1:52:59 --> 1:53:06
who was born in Panama, if your father is an American citizen, you are a natural born citizen

1136
1:53:06 --> 1:53:13
by the law of God. And I think if we would have approached it from that aspect, rather than trying

1137
1:53:13 --> 1:53:19
to prove where the man was born, which really doesn't make any difference. But, you know,

1138
1:53:20 --> 1:53:28
people need to understand the real true original meaning of natural born citizen, not citizen,

1139
1:53:29 --> 1:53:36
because that's different. And anybody else besides president or vice president can hold office as

1140
1:53:36 --> 1:53:42
long as they are a citizen. But to be vice president or president, you must be a natural

1141
1:53:42 --> 1:53:50
born citizen. And if again, if you do the research on what was believed to be a natural born citizen,

1142
1:53:50 --> 1:53:55
when our documents that our founding fathers actually referred to the law of nations,

1143
1:53:56 --> 1:54:01
when they were writing our founding documents, because the law of the law of nations was written

1144
1:54:01 --> 1:54:10
in natural law. So, you know, that's the that my the group I worked with, we were going from the

1145
1:54:10 --> 1:54:16
natural born citizen issue, because his father, well, the man he says was his father, because

1146
1:54:16 --> 1:54:24
we're not real sure that he really was his father, was a British subject when when Obama was born.

1147
1:54:24 --> 1:54:29
Same thing with Harris, neither one of her parents were natural were citizens, her father still to

1148
1:54:29 --> 1:54:36
this day, is not a US citizen. Marco Rubio, both of his parents were Cuban when he was born here in

1149
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the United States. Nikki Haley, both of her parents were Indian citizens when she was born here in the

1150
1:54:43 --> 1:54:50
United States. So, you know, we have a lot of bad.

1151
1:54:50 --> 1:54:56
Karen, Karen, you raise good elements for Jerome to think about. And

1152
1:54:56 --> 1:55:01
Jerome, Karen has presented some very interesting, her background is very interesting and useful.

1153
1:55:01 --> 1:55:07
And Karen, you know, I think, Jerome, Karen could be a wonderful source of good research that she's

1154
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done over a long time.

1155
1:55:08 --> 1:55:15
I agree with you. And I think also the issue of natural born citizenship is going to get contested in the

1156
1:55:15 --> 1:55:20
interpretation of the 14th Amendment, that if you're born here, you're natural, you're a citizen.

1157
1:55:20 --> 1:55:23
And that that was not the original meaning of the 14th Amendment.

1158
1:55:23 --> 1:55:31
That was that was the 1413 13th, 14th and 15th Amendment were what they call the slave amendments.

1159
1:55:31 --> 1:55:37
And it was to address citizenship of the slaves who were not considered slaves.

1160
1:55:38 --> 1:55:44
If you read, there is a thing called the Senate Report of 1866, which was a Senate hearing on the 14th

1161
1:55:44 --> 1:55:51
Amendment two years before the 14th Amendment was ratified, ratified under oppression, by the way.

1162
1:55:51 --> 1:56:01
And it clearly says in there to be a citizen, your parents have to be citizens.

1163
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Your parents have to be citizens. And it also said that when they talk about the jurisdiction,

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subject to the jurisdiction thereof, children of foreign parents cannot be subject to,

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totally subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

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And that was also a part of being a citizen that people don't talk about. Oh, you're born here,

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you're a citizen, but they forget about the second part that says and subject to the jurisdiction

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thereof. So foreign parents are partially subject to the jurisdiction thereof. They can't murder

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people. They can't, you know, but they are not, they don't have a total allegiance to the United

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States until they become American citizens. Well, the exception that's always been recognized on the

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14th Amendment is if you're a child of a diplomat, born in the United States, you're not, by definition,

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of being born here an American citizen on the very basis that you point out. Right. And it's

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also brought up in that Senate hearing of 1866. It's not really, if anybody hasn't read it,

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you go to look it up, go to the reconstruction, the piece that talks about reconstruction,

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and it's a mind blower. It's a mind blower. It blows holes in so many lies that people have

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1:57:33 --> 1:57:42
been told about the 14th Amendment, and they go into great detail and debate on what every piece

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of the 14th Amendment means. Well, the 14th Amendment is one of the more controversial

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and more difficult to understand because it requires state action. In other words,

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there has to be a state action to deny somebody rights. And so therefore, that's complicated.

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And then the provision about citizenship, you know, is you're right, they forget to take into

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1:58:07 --> 1:58:14
consideration the clause about subject of the jurisdiction thereof. Okay, it was, those

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1:58:14 --> 1:58:20
amendments that were passed coming out of slavery had to be viewed in the context that the slaves

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1:58:20 --> 1:58:28
were taken from their homes and were here, and the children were born here, but the children,

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then the slaves were made to be citizens, then the children became citizens. And that was just,

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1:58:33 --> 1:58:41
that was in the context of a great crime of slavery. But to universalize it, as they've

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1:58:41 --> 1:58:46
attempted to, to anybody being born here is automatically a citizen is way beyond the

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intent of the statute, of the amendment. Right, well, because we have lawyers and

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1:58:53 --> 1:58:58
election of elected people that feel that the Constitution is a living document and it changes

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with the times. It is not a living document. The only way to change the original intent of the

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1:59:06 --> 1:59:11
Constitution is through the amendment process. You just can't change it to suit your purpose or your

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1:59:11 --> 1:59:21
agenda or the times. And this is what we've lost, you know, even, okay, I don't want to go on. I

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know there are other people. I appreciate the time and thank you very much, Jerome.

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– Aaron, the communist in New York who's seeking election as the mayor, what is it exactly that he

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falsified in his citizenship application and is it disputed by anybody?

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– He said that he had no ties to communist or blah, blah, blah organizations and they can prove

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that he did. He came here when he was seven years old and he did not, he did not become a citizen,

1197
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I don't know, six, seven, eight years ago. It hasn't been that long. Isn't it strange that he

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was here all this time and only became a U.S. citizen? And I believe he became a U.S. citizen

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as part of the plan to destroy the United States. But anyhow, they said that he was not affiliated

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with any communist organizations or what other organizations they mention in there. And he said

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that he was not and they have proof that he was. – So which communist organizations was the

1202
2:00:27 --> 2:00:35
member of or connected to? – Well, I know that he is part of the, I think, the DSA, the Democrat,

1203
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Socialist, I don't know. There's, he's affiliated with a lot of different groups.

1204
2:00:43 --> 2:00:49
– All right, let's move on. But points well made, Karen. And as I said, Jerome, Karen has got some

1205
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wonderful information if you need it. All right, we're getting, you're okay with another 27

1206
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minutes till we finish it at the two and a half hour mark. Jerome, you're doing a great job.

1207
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– Sure, we can go on to, we can go another 27 minutes. – 27 minutes, right. So Jim.

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– Hey, Jerome. Hey, thanks very much for the presentation. I really appreciate it. The issue of

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who are the socialists or communist, socialists, people who take over power,

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are you familiar with the Venona papers or Venona decrypts? – Yes.

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– And how does that play into the CIA paper that cites the difference between Ashkenazi and Sephardic?

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Have you seen that paper that says the Ashkenazi or Khazarians are, identifies them as

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the socialist party that seeming to be taking the power from the Sephardic? What are your thoughts on

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the genetic predisposition for people to be socialist and take over power that way?

1215
2:01:54 --> 2:01:58
– Well, I haven't looked at that one specifically. That's new to me. But the –

1216
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– Okay, I'm going to put it in the chat. And I'd like to take a look at that.

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– The Venona papers were clearly important because they exposed how many in the, you know,

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in the, you know, Roosevelt era were, the FDR era, were communists, you know, including some of the

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2:02:19 --> 2:02:25
very prominent ones supporting the United Nations and the various movements that were, you know,

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communists right within the White House. – Right.

1221
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– Dexter White and Harry Hopkins and –

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– Algar Hitt.

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– Algar Hitt. Algar Hitt. Algar Hitt is probably the major, the major expose.

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– Who founded the United Nations. He is the number two who founded the United Nations. It looks like the United Nations is actually a socialist plot.

1225
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– Yeah, well, I met Algar Hitt and had discussions with him about it. And he insisted, you know,

1226
2:02:55 --> 2:03:02
he was lying all along and he insisted that he was innocent. But his code names and others,

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other information about him is clearly revealed in the Venona papers. There's no doubt about it.

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– Yes. And I encourage people to look at even the Venona project or the Venona decrypts

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in Wikipedia and it has an outline of it. But this tie to the, the, the, the Kisarians or,

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or people who, for instance, in the Venona papers, they identified the Rosenbergs

1231
2:03:28 --> 2:03:34
who were, who were selling secrets and, and others, including the guy who was recently freed

1232
2:03:36 --> 2:03:40
from, from prison for taking secrets from the US Navy and selling them to China.

1233
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And, and so it seems like there's a, there's a deep tie with the socialists and even the Chinese.

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And that may be, have you explored those ties?

1235
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– Not specifically. I mean, I certainly studied the papers and know about the Rosenbergs

1236
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and have studied them and, but the other ties, no, I have not looked at.

1237
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– And, and what do you think about, what do you think about the issue of, of the,

1238
2:04:12 --> 2:04:20
the people who are running the staff of our people in command that may be having ties to these,

1239
2:04:20 --> 2:04:26
these socialists? For instance, the guy who, the guy who recently, the second in command at

1240
2:04:26 --> 2:04:33
Turning Point, the second in command at, in the FBI, like many of these, like for instance,

1241
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Erica Kirk, her history seems to be a little muddied. Where she was born.

1242
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– Come on, Jim, come on, we're going, that 27 rabbit holes here.

1243
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– Sorry about that. So I guess, thanks very much for,

1244
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thanks very much for your presentation. I'll send you that CIA paper again.

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– Okay, thank you.

1246
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– Appreciate it.

1247
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– Thank you, Jim. All right, we're going to have Glenn quickly, then Tom, then Stephen,

1248
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and we're finishing on time. Thank you, Jim. Glenn.

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– Hi, Jerome. Something you brought up after I spoke before. You mentioned the change,

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the likely change of administration to a Republican administration in New Jersey.

1251
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And if that does come to pass following the Tuesday's election,

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I was wondering, relative to that, and Thomas Matthew Crooks, the shooter, the attempted assassin

1253
2:05:28 --> 2:05:40
of President Trump, Governor Murphy in New Jersey has been covering up and sealed from view a

1254
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variety of Matthew Thomas Crooks court records that are inside of New Jersey. And if we switch

1255
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to a Republican governor, suddenly those records may come out and give us a lot more information

1256
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around the connection to the true sponsors of Matthew Thomas Crooks.

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– That would be, I would hope that that would happen.

1258
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– Good point, Glenn. And Jerome, you didn't mention, I meant to say it,

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2:06:10 --> 2:06:16
in that context that Andrew Paquette, I thought he told us that the voter roles, in fact,

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in the New York mayoral race are also problematic.

1261
2:06:21 --> 2:06:25
– Yes. Yeah, the potential to steal the election in New York and New Jersey

1262
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is there for the Democrats. And I plan to watch it very carefully.

1263
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– Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you for that. Now, before we go to Tom,

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I want to share something that just came in on my email. You might be interested in this,

1265
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everyone, in the context of the discussion that we've been having.

1266
2:06:42 --> 2:06:48
John Lee does some terrific stuff. So here we have smearing and threatening Tucker Carlson will

1267
2:06:49 --> 2:06:54
generate anti-Semitism instead of quelling it. So there you are, just relevant to what we've been

1268
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talking about. Tom. – Sorry. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate, you know, your politeness and decorum

1269
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and your position on the Ukraine and the work that you've done to publish people that have been

1270
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here. I'm going to make sure I don't talk too much, so I'm timing myself here. Let's see.

1271
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So I have been following some what I consider sort of right-wing. There's a program on the

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Constitution, and I've been trying to learn from it. And I'm a little concerned about some of the

1273
2:07:36 --> 2:07:44
stuff that Trump is doing. Also, in light of that, I heard Neil Oliver talking about the

1274
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Magna Carta and some of the predecessor documents 100 years before that. And to your point about

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democracy, he was highlighting a mechanism that I think we underappreciate, which is,

1276
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doesn't have anything to do with democracy, really. It's called the jury trial. And in a

1277
2:08:05 --> 2:08:11
jury trial, it only takes one person to hang the jury from what I understand.

1278
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So that, I think, is a good talking point. And I think the right to trial by jury is really important.

1279
2:08:21 --> 2:08:27
Chuck was mentioning that direct democracy, you know, the high-techs point of view, some people

1280
2:08:27 --> 2:08:33
are actually thinking that we could have ordinary citizens voting several times a month, you know,

1281
2:08:33 --> 2:08:40
nationwide. So there's some radical ideas out there. I wanted to, I'm hitting a lot of little

1282
2:08:40 --> 2:08:47
points here. I'm looking at the time here. Okay. The DSA, I've had experience, I've gone to several

1283
2:08:47 --> 2:08:53
meetings. I, you know, I'm curious about everything. My experience is there's a

1284
2:08:55 --> 2:09:00
several different Marxism groups that are in there, and they're all kind of, they're not exactly

1285
2:09:00 --> 2:09:06
fighting, but they're kind of talking amongst themselves. And that they're all very well-meaning

1286
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people. I don't, in where I am in the Midwest, there's a strong history of, I think,

1287
2:09:13 --> 2:09:21
sewer socialism, kind of benign positive socialism, egalitarian focus, you know, very well intentioned.

1288
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So this idea that they're advocating violence is surprising to me. So I'm kind of running out of

1289
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time here. I wanted to hit on this one point, and I am not an expert in this area, but

1290
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I want to just mention that Stephen Miller, a new name for me, probably not for other people,

1291
2:09:43 --> 2:09:51
but I heard John Helmer, who was an advisor in the Carter administration, like 47 years ago,

1292
2:09:52 --> 2:09:57
he looked at Carter's decision-making style. He coached him. He said Carter could read 300 pages

1293
2:09:58 --> 2:10:05
in several days, do all kinds of analysis. Trump refuses to get an intelligence briefing.

1294
2:10:05 --> 2:10:13
Long story short, his view is that Trump is simply being controlled, and that Stephen Miller is one

1295
2:10:13 --> 2:10:20
of the controllers. I'm kind of out of time, but I'm concerned about the constitutionality of what

1296
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Trump is doing with ICE. You're mentioning military intervention and elections. I'd like to see us

1297
2:10:26 --> 2:10:33
follow the constitution, and I'm concerned about Venezuela too, in light of what I just said.

1298
2:10:34 --> 2:10:40
So any comments? Great. Thank you. Well, I mean, I've known Stephen Miller for a long time,

1299
2:10:40 --> 2:10:45
and he's got very strong opinions, and he's influential. And Trump listens,

1300
2:10:45 --> 2:10:51
but Trump listens to many different people, and when he doesn't want the intelligence briefings,

1301
2:10:52 --> 2:10:57
he's just tired of being lied to and listening to all the manipulation that goes on through those

1302
2:10:57 --> 2:11:05
intelligence briefings. Again, I don't think that Trump is necessarily an end-all, be-all solution.

1303
2:11:06 --> 2:11:12
What he's doing is positive, but it's beginning to reverse a lot of decades that we've had of

1304
2:11:12 --> 2:11:24
socialism being in its benign form to begin with, but then in its really negative and destructive

1305
2:11:24 --> 2:11:33
forms as it currently exists. It's malware. Every place it's appeared, it starts out sounding like

1306
2:11:33 --> 2:11:38
it's still going to do a lot of good, and it ends up killing millions of people, and ends up in

1307
2:11:38 --> 2:11:48
totalitarianism. So again, the solutions that are recommended by socialism don't address the problems

1308
2:11:48 --> 2:11:55
that socialism is concerned about, which are real problems, but you're not going to get equality

1309
2:11:55 --> 2:12:01
through DEI. You're going to get more equal participation by education of children who are

1310
2:12:01 --> 2:12:09
raising families across races and across social conditions, and that's fundamental to human nature.

1311
2:12:10 --> 2:12:17
So the solutions that these ideologies present tend ultimately to end in violence and control,

1312
2:12:19 --> 2:12:26
whereas fundamentally, our constitution, as I see it as a republic, not as a democracy, was that free

1313
2:12:26 --> 2:12:33
speech was preserved as fundamental so there didn't become a consensus on any particular

1314
2:12:33 --> 2:12:38
ideology that they could all be debated, and that's I think the only solution in human events is to

1315
2:12:39 --> 2:12:45
constantly subject these things to debate and examination, because we're all prone to go the

1316
2:12:45 --> 2:12:51
wrong way and to be deluded many times, and what we're learning about all the lies the government

1317
2:12:51 --> 2:12:56
has told, I think it's fundamental to our awakening of we put too much trust in the power of government,

1318
2:12:56 --> 2:13:03
not enough trust in the self-governance that our founding fathers wanted us to have. So I'm not sure

1319
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I've addressed all your questions, but I think I've addressed some of them. Thank you, Jerome. Thank

1320
2:13:09 --> 2:13:15
you, Tom. All right, we'll go to Stephen. Before we do, I just want all of you to know that in

1321
2:13:15 --> 2:13:21
Melbourne right now it's Monday, Jerome, so as usual the Australians are way ahead of the Americans,

1322
2:13:23 --> 2:13:29
and secondly that tomorrow is the first Tuesday of November, which is presidential election time,

1323
2:13:29 --> 2:13:37
and mayoral race voting and midterms, blah blah, but the first Tuesday of the month since

1324
2:13:37 --> 2:13:44
1863 or thereabouts has been the running of the Melbourne Cup, and there is a public holiday in

1325
2:13:45 --> 2:13:51
Melbourne to honour this great race tomorrow and Saturday, which was the start of the spring racing

1326
2:13:51 --> 2:14:00
carnival for a week, beautiful sunshine, magnificent day, 23 degrees Celsius, and right now the day

1327
2:14:00 --> 2:14:05
before the Cup it's pissing rain and there's going to be a very wet track and hopefully the

1328
2:14:05 --> 2:14:10
rain will clear by the time of the race, but it's a big deal for those of you who love horse racing.

1329
2:14:10 --> 2:14:17
Well, I've actually attended the Melbourne Cup once. I was there. I got to participate in it

1330
2:14:17 --> 2:14:23
once years ago. Wonderful, wonderful. Yes. It's a big deal. And I was staying at that time at the

1331
2:14:23 --> 2:14:30
union club in Sydney, and I went over to Melbourne and went to the Cup. Brilliant decision.

1332
2:14:30 --> 2:14:36
Yes, it was. All right, Stephen, last couple of questions. We've got 10 or 12 minutes to go.

1333
2:14:36 --> 2:14:40
Last questions for you and then we'll finish up. And those who have got the time go over

1334
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to the telegram video meeting. Stephen? Oh, sorry, Charles.

1335
2:14:48 --> 2:14:52
By the way, while you're thinking, Stephen, I've got one other question I meant to ask Jerome,

1336
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and I'm very concerned that Robert Prevost, currently Pope Leo XIV, is also a fan of

1337
2:15:00 --> 2:15:05
Pope Francis's No National Borders strategy. Could you comment on that while Stephen's?

1338
2:15:06 --> 2:15:13
Yes, he's also on the LGBT agenda. He's just Francis Light. He's agreed with the whole agenda.

1339
2:15:13 --> 2:15:20
They put him in there so he wouldn't be so confrontational. But he is 100% on the agenda.

1340
2:15:20 --> 2:15:26
He had LGBT with a rainbow cross come in and do a celebration in St. Peter's Cathedral.

1341
2:15:28 --> 2:15:34
Yeah. Okay. So it's good to know everybody, Francis Light, and I'm opposed to, therefore,

1342
2:15:34 --> 2:15:40
the Pope Leo agenda. Stephen, over to you. Yeah, sorry, Charles. I just went to make a

1343
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cup of coffee. I thought Tom would be a bit longer than he was. So.

1344
2:15:44 --> 2:15:46
Oh, Tom's been very disciplined. Well done, Tom.

1345
2:15:46 --> 2:15:55
Ah, good. Yeah. So, Jerome, I think there are many things I could ask you about, but I think

1346
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one thing that I think that's important. And so Rob McCoy was our guest recently. I was

1347
2:16:02 --> 2:16:07
very interested. I didn't really know Charlie Kirk's work when he was alive,

1348
2:16:08 --> 2:16:13
but obviously his death brought it to my attention. I've been kind of following it and

1349
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I can see why they would be afraid of him. So, but Rob McCoy, he's very modest. He's,

1350
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you know, he's referred to by Charlie Kirk as his pastor. And he wouldn't shift that,

1351
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um, apparently. So, but it seems that the pastor, Rob McCoy, his, he's very modest,

1352
2:16:41 --> 2:16:49
but he does admit he doesn't contradict, shall we say, if I suggest to him that he was the one

1353
2:16:50 --> 2:16:57
who came up with the genius of connecting spirituality, if you like, through God and

1354
2:16:58 --> 2:17:08
religion, you know, Christian values with politics. And it's, so I just find it amazing that

1355
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no one else in the world had understood that that was important. So in the UK, for example,

1356
2:17:13 --> 2:17:18
you wouldn't go to church because you can't see a single leader in the church who you'd want to

1357
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listen to in a sermon and certainly not the Archbishop of Canterbury. So, um, so these people

1358
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are kind of useful idiots in the sense that they seem to have been put in positions of power in the

1359
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church to kind of take them away from this, their humanity, if you like, their Christian values,

1360
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their moral compass, and essentially destroy their souls. And the church doesn't seem to have any

1361
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leaders who understood this, but Charlie Kirk did understand that, it seems. But he, he was actually,

1362
2:17:58 --> 2:18:05
it was actually suggested to Charlie Kirk by Rob McCoy that he needed to talk about the politics,

1363
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not just about, you know, God and the church. And so, um, I wonder whether you've got any comments

1364
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on that, Jerome? Well, yes, you're correct that, I mean, McCoy was a big influence to get Charlie

1365
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Kirk to understand that it's important from the pulpit to talk about politics, the issues of politics.

1366
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It's crazy when you think of it that nobody else had come up with this, that you can't just talk

1367
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about spirituality and God, and if you don't point out why it's important in the context of what

1368
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people are living through at the time. Yeah, there's, there are others in the, um, other pastors who are

1369
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on the same theme. It is, it has become a, a much more debated issue in the last 10 years, and

1370
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the advocacy for the separation of church and state, meaning you can't talk about politics,

1371
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that idea is under challenge, severe challenge. And so there are ministries that are promoting,

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you know, the black robe ministry, which admires the American Revolutionary War pastors who

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had their uniforms on underneath their priestly robes, and they would take their robes off after

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a sermon and go out and fight a battle. So, you know, the, the whole idea that, you know,

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the leave unto Caesar, the things that are Caesar's, well, that does not mean that

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Christ, for instance, in his ministry was actively talking about many political issues,

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and his opposition to the Sanhedrin and others were clearly political.

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So the separation has been artificial to... Well, or has it been actually created?

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Yes. They've deliberately taken the churches away from the people. That's the whole point of the

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beginning in the, you know, 1940s and reading Jefferson's letter about separation of church

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and state incorrectly from what Jefferson meant it to be. And to say that, you know, the realm of,

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the public realm should have no presence of God whatsoever would be a foreign idea to our founders.

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And that has been intentionally contrived, I believe. I wrote a book on that called Bad

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Samaritans, which was intentionally designed in order to take God out of schools, out of families,

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out of morality, out of politics. And that's, that's, that's a serious mistake.

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Oh, absolutely. It's a huge mistake. So it's only recently that I've understood how important that

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was and, and how, I mean, maybe in America it's slightly different, you know, in the Southern

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States in particular, but, but I'm even there, you know, I've watched some services online

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and there's no mention of politics. They think... Also it's reinforced by the tax-exempt status

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for churches. In other words, they're always threatening a church that's too political,

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is going to lose its tax-exempt status. So a lot of the ministry are chilled from raising issues.

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And if they have a congregation that's going to be offended in any way. So again...

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Wasn't that the strength of Turning Point? Wasn't that why they made such progress?

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Because actually they were making the church relevant to the solutions, to the evil.

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And he was willing to debate it with people. He was willing to let them

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engage in a debate in which he confronted their ideas. And so that was also the, I mean,

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the two things about Charlie Kirk that distinguished him were one is he, his faith was

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political. And number two, that he wanted to debate those who disagreed with him rather than

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just dismiss them. Because he believed that he could undermine their ideas by exposing the lies

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and the things that don't work and expose the underlying agenda. And he was very effective at

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Oh, he was exceptionally good at that. I don't think I've ever seen anybody able to converse

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with people who are completely on the opposite end of the... and remain kind of reasonable.

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He remained civil. He remained patient. He remained polite. We did it exactly the right way.

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I don't think I'd be able to do that, Jerome. Would you?

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I could, but it would be, it'd have to be very disciplined.

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You'd have to go into it.

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Can you love your enemy? You know, Trump says he can't. Who was it he said, oh, he said that

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Charlie Kirk could.

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The sense of loving your enemies comes from realization that fighting them makes you stronger.

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They're really not to your detriment. They're to your advantage to cope with them.

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Absolutely. Yeah. If you don't let them kill you.

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If you don't let them, if they don't kill you, they make you stronger.

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Exactly. Exactly. And they make you a lot stronger as well.

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I've certainly experienced that myself.

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Me too. Anyway, Jerome, thank you so much for coming to talk to us.

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You're a real sage and we appreciate you.

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My pleasure.

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Always a great pleasure and honor to be with you. So thank you.

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Everybody show your cameras and give Jerome a round of applause.

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Excellent job.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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You're actually improving with time, Jerome.

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Getting older, Stephen.

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Thank you, Stephen.

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All right, everybody. Well done.

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Thank you.

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God bless. Bye bye.

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Go over to the Tom Rodman group. We'll finish this recording and we'll see you next time.

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Thanks, Stephen.

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And thank you for helping us out tonight, Jerome.

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Oh, just real quick, guys, I found a link.

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It's on the kingship of Christ and Catholic social teaching to try and help clarify

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how that's different from this concept of separation of church and state.

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But it all has to go back to acknowledging that Jesus Christ is King of all creation.

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So I'll just leave it there. You guys can read it and absorb it.

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And also don't forget, Juliet Engel has a YouTube video.

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It's in the chat with several other victims and survivors of the human trafficking that

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she was subjected to. And that's going to be in about 15, maybe 14 hours from now.

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So I put the link again in here as well for you guys.

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Thanks, Harriet.

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All right, Daria, did you like McCoy's presentation?

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I haven't gone through it all yet because I was uncomfortable with his background,

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especially after hearing some of the reporting that Candace Owens did.

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And apparently she's actually coined this term Operation Mockingpastor.

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So you really don't know who is weaponizing the pulpit for either a political or globalist agenda.

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And sometimes it's a little more blatant, like with the leftists and the stuff that Pope Leo is

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doing. And I think what somebody said just not long ago here was about the fact that,

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and it doesn't have to do with tax exempt status for the pope as much as how much money is he

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needing to get pulled in from globalist organizations?

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Come on, come on. That's a whole wonderful, that's a whole topic.

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It's a two and a half hour conversation.

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Anyway, that's as far as that goes. Yeah, that's sorry. I hope I answered your question,

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but yeah, I'm not very comfortable with weaponizing the pulpit.

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All right.

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Thank you, everybody.

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But Rob McCoy did achieve one thing. He got Charlie Kirk thinking about politics in the

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context of the spirituality and the knowledge of, yeah, and that was very important.

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And again, and Charlie put it in the context of the social kingship of Christ the King,

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and that's really where it goes back to. And when leaders were in medieval times, let's say,

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they were subject, all the kings and royals were subject to the pope.

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Come on, come on, come on. Stop, we're leaving. Go on and talk with Tom Rodman on the video

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telegram meeting. We're stopping this meeting. Lovely to have you all.

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Lots of love on All Souls Day. Yesterday was All Saints Day. Thank you, everybody.

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Thanks, everybody. Bye bye.