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this show on the road, welcome everybody to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International

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and today's meeting. This group was founded over four years ago by Stephen Frost, a British

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trained medical doctor. At this time we remember two lawyers unlawfully incarcerated, a matter

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dear to Alex's heart of Arno van Kessel and Ryan Ofolmik both unlawfully jailed. We call on

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their immediate release and in the invitation and in the show notes you will see details about Ryan

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Ofolmik. We also remind you of the Buttonheart Bear, part of the Forever Freedom movement,

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designed to free children forever from being trafficked for sex and slavery. Millions of

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children a year are trafficked. The Buttonheart Bear is a way to be able to talk about the horrors

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of child trafficking. 10 years ago when people brought, or 15 years ago when people first brought

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the issue of child trafficking to my attention and pedophilia problems, I said you are a conspiracy

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theorist. Isn't that wonderful how we all grow up? Anyway, I'm Charles Covess, your moderator based

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here in Australia and after 20 years as a lawyer, after 20 years as a lawyer I've changed career to

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be a professional speaker like Alex Maier. Our guest today now is, and for the past 14 years,

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I've guided parents and lawyers in addressing vaccine injuries and medical failures. This group

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comprises professions from all sorts of professions from all around the world. Many of us once viewed

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vaccines as benign, now many wear the badge of passionate anti-vaxxers with pride awakened to

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new realities. And I bring to your attention for the purpose of the recording Gavin De Becker's

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wonderful book Forbidden Facts. I recommend it. You can also listen to Gavin De Becker in a

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two and a half hour conversation with Joe Rogan. This is a brilliantly resourced book, not thick,

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enjoyable read and if any of you want to introduce the facts to anybody about the horrors of

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vaccines that have never once ever in the history of humanity been proven to be safe and effective,

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then this book is a wonderful tool for you. We're in the thick of a global struggle. We call it

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World War III with medical and scientific battles among 12 battle fronts. Another is the legal

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battlefront and as a lawyer I've been closely involved with that and Alex as well and the

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Rainer Formick said the courts are hopelessly corrupted. I'd say they're not hopelessly

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corrupted, they're majority corrupted and we call on judges to understand the horrors of what's

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being imposed on their grandchildren from judges from all around the world to properly apply the

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law. This group also is fighting for truth, ethics, justice, freedom and proper application

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of law. We're five and a half years into this World War III and we've got at least two more

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years to go and so stay healthy, stay strong, be up for the fight and no saying to yourself you're

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tired. We'll hear from our guest presenter Alex Meyer from California. I'll introduce her in a

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moment followed by question and answer. Per tradition Stephen Frost opens the questioning

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for the first 15 minutes. This is a free speech haven and what that means is if anyone is offended

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by what Alex or I or anybody says own it, it's your problem. We don't shut up because someone

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might be offended. Similarly we don't shut up because someone might be triggered.

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We choose love over fear. Fear binds and sickens and squashes and depresses. If your life is

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consumed by fear you will be depressed. On the other hand love liberates, heals and inspires

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and the essence of love is giving. First you give, then you get the rewards.

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These twice weekly gatherings are far from mere talk. They've birthed many real world actions and

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alliances. A key tactic in our fight is exposing medical crimes on social media,

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rallying behind the demand crafted by John Rappaport of Medical Truth Now. That's what we want,

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Medical Truth Now and that book by Gavin De Becker is another tool in that slogan, in that saying,

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in that movement. We're thrilled to welcome again Alex Meyer. I think this is the third time you're

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presenting to us Alex. That's pronounced M-A-Y-E-A as you will see from the show notes and let me

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introduce this wonderful, wonderful woman to you. She's a woman I'm told, you know, even though our

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sex discrimination commissioner in Australia says, oh I can't define what a woman is.

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Well that's the fraud that we're dealing with everybody. I've never had a problem

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defining or identifying a woman now. So Alex Meyer, MBA. Alex in 1996, just three years after

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I stopped being a lawyer, so that's 29 years ago, I was running a worldwide research group for Apple

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Inc. when she got six vaccines, six. In fact I'm advising somebody in California right now who lives

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in Carlsbad who's about to get a yellow fever vaccine because he wants to go to Kenya for a

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holiday. Anyways Alex, I'll talk to you about that later, but Alex got six vaccines in 1996 for a

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vacation and became disabled, brain damaged and lost her career. Now substantially recovered,

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she's board chair and president of Free Now Foundation. Alex if you could put that link in

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the chat please, Free Now Foundation, the leading medical freedom law non-profit in California.

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Alex formerly served on the Children's Health Defense Board, co-founded and served as chairman

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of CHD's most successful chapter in California, helping raise in excess of five million dollars

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and served on Bobby Kennedy Jr.'s Presidential Campaign Finance Committee, raising hundreds of

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thousands for Bobby's campaign. In 2022 she won the Golden Bear Award and a presentation she gave to

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Joe McCollough was named best of interview. Alex Meyer grew up in the Oscar Meyer family and his

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degree from Duke, a BA from Duke Uni and MBA from Northwestern. Today she's going to be talking to

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us about the sorry state of medical freedom in California, the sorry state of medical freedom in

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California, how it got that way and what we are doing about it and I won't describe what that topic

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is because you have read about it and it's in the show notes, but it's in the show notes.

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And there was a sentence I wanted to, yes, about Free Now Foundation, I wanted to say that it's

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California's leading medical freedom law non-profit with lawsuits to end mandates and while we still

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have mandates to expand exemptions, Free Now Foundation's past suits stopped illegal COVID

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shot mandates at kindergarten to year 12 schools, stopped colleges from medical discrimination of

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students, forced Gavin Newscum to backtrack on his Dr. Gag Order Bill and exposed corruption at

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county boards of supervisors. Alex, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedule at

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noon in LA to come and be with us, to inspire us, to educate us and to make sure that we do the work

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that needs to be done and you are free to share your screen and we look forward to hearing from

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you. Thank you so much Charles, it's great to be back on your show, I love your show, I love the

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in-depth interviews that you do and Stephen, thank you so much also for co-hosting and welcoming me

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back here again and thank you to, I'll use your nickname, SFE for recommending me for today's

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show, I really appreciate it and I don't have a lot of slides for today's show because I was just

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asked yesterday but boy is there a lot of stuff going on in California that I think the world needs

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to know about because this is what's coming, this is going to spread from California like wildfire

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if we don't do something about it and luckily we are doing something about it but it's not good.

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So where I'd like to start is with the fact that California is now the only state in the United

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States with a public health department vaccine dictatorship and that's the end of the story but

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I'm going to start there so you know I'm going to take you back in history in California to

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2011-ish and then go forward to how we got this way because it's quite the story and it's the story

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of an incremental taking of our rights year by year and in fact there's kind of a four-year pattern

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here in California where the legislators get together and they get together to take away

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vaccine rights from the parents about every four years so let me start with that and the reason

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we're a public health department dictatorship here in California is because the public health

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department is in charge for enforcement of the mandates, the vaccine mandates so children can

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go to school here in California and now because of a new law that Governor Newsom signed into law

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last month now the public health department sets its own vaccination schedule also. They've cut out

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the CDC, they've cut out the advisory committee on immunization practices otherwise known as ACIP,

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they've cut out any kind of citizen involvement in the process. Literally the public health

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department is deciding on their own vaccination schedule now in California and that starts with

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the schedule as it was with the CDC, the CDC recommended schedule in January of 2025 and that

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schedule included COVID shots on the recommended schedule and as we talked about right before the

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show began, COVID shots are no longer on the recommended schedule by the CDC. They've been

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moved down one level to doctor-patient decision making and that's a lower level where insurance

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is not supposed to cover those shots and they're no longer mandatory nationwide but in California

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they're still on the schedule because they're still on this schedule that only California has

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and it's it's quite ridiculous. So I'm going to talk to you about how that started and if we want

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to do a part two on this show after I talk about the California situation, I have a graphic that I

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was using way back in 2020 and 2021 that's so relevant now to explain what happened to Reiner

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Feumich, like how over target he was and why he's being abused and was kidnapped and jailed and

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imprisoned and sentenced in Germany and obviously it has nothing to do with trying to make sure the

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long arm of the government didn't get into his non-profit and take the the donations that he'd

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received. It has nothing to do with that as we all know that's a pretense but if you're interested

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after I talk about the California story I'm going to talk to you about why I think they went after

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Reiner Feumich because it was an analysis I did right before he came on the scene and my jaw hit

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the ground when I saw him talk about the PCR test because I knew that if we were going to be most

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effective when we were locked down that all of our legal dollars could be spent just fighting the PCR

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test in court and that's all we would have needed to do. We wouldn't have needed any other lawsuits

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around COVID or lockdowns just that and if you're interested I can show you why I came to that

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conclusion. Okay so we are certainly we are certainly interested so you know you can do

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both if you feel like it okay because as you know we can ask questions for a long time so

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yeah usually please do both because they're both so relevant to what we're the tyranny that we're

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dealing with. Okay so let me start with California and then I'll jump into my analysis about lawsuits

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around the PCR test and Reiner Feumich after that. So California since 1961 was a soft mandate state

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and what a soft mandate is is there was a mandate that was instituted in 1961 so that school

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children were supposed to get you know a certain subset of vaccines compared to what they have to

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get today. It was probably measles actually in 61 that was before the measles vaccine was on the

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scene so it was probably tetanus pertussis smallpox polio that was probably it. So fast forward about

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50 years and they started to change this I mean it was really nothing happened nothing significant

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happened in California with infectious illness since 1961 and they had to manufacture a crisis

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to start changing things dramatically but let me let me go back um and so that was 2015 but let me

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start in 2011. So 2011 is when the things first started to change in California they started to

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take away parental rights around vaccination in 2011 and what happened in 2011 this is absolutely

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absurd. It was governor brown who was the governor of California at the time and the legislature

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passed a bill saying that children as young as 12 were capable of reading package inserts for

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vaccinations and to decide if the risk and benefit of certain vaccines benefited them or maybe

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wouldn't benefit them 12 year olds okay and this was only for a couple vaccines at the time because

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this law applied only to sexually transmitted infections or kind of like sexual health things.

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So the two vaccines that fell into that category in 2011 were the human papilloma virus vaccine HPV

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vaccine made by it's called Gardasil made by Merck. Supposed to prevent cervical cancer but we know

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it doesn't and then the other one was the hepatitis b vaccine so at that point 12 year olds were allowed

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to make their own vaccination decisions without parental involvement for those two vaccines and

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what was so absurd at the time in 2011 governor brown signed into law another bill at the very

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same time that anyone under 18 in California was not capable of going to a tanning bed because they

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couldn't determine whether or not they were going to get burned by the tanning machine or not but a

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child as young as 12 could make vaccination decisions around HPV and hepatitis b vaccines.

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So the absurdity began there in my opinion and then nothing happened for four years because

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things happen every four years roughly in California in terms of taking away vaccination rights.

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So 2015 rolls around and our legislature introduces a bill to remove something called the personal

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belief exemption. Now there's a whole lot of political agenda around this and I'm going to

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talk to you about what happened at this point in 2014 in December there was a supposed outbreak

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of measles in Disneyland in California so that became national news because Disneyland is

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somewhere people travel to from all over the country all over the world and so with that

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supposed measles outbreak people could get it and carry it to anywhere in the world so it was a huge

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crisis in December 2014. Well 2015 rolls around and lo and behold the legislators in California

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introduce a bill to remove the personal belief exemption around vaccination and the way this

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had functioned before under the soft mandate was that you would just go to the school nurse you'd

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ask for the blue card and then you turn over the blue card and you'd sign it and say you know it's

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my personal belief that I don't think vaccines would be beneficial for my children and that's

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that and that was considered a soft mandate. Nobody ever told you about it you had to know

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about the law but that was how easy it was to get your kids out of vaccinations as late as 2014.

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But 2015 rolls around California legislature introduces this bill and I'm telling you I've

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never seen anything like it. I have I wasn't too involved in the legislative process until then but

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this totally stunned me. There were thousands and thousands of parents going to the Capitol

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multiple times a week to protest against this bill you know every committee hearing we were up there

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for the floor votes we were up there and they rammed this thing through they didn't care at all

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what the California parents said. We met with the legislators we met with their staffers and they

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just didn't care it was like talking to a brick wall and it was it was a political agenda I mean

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you could tell it was a political agenda and so what that left us with was no personal belief

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exemption anymore so that covered religious exemptions and also just kind of the general

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personal belief exemption that I told you about with the blue card but what it also did it also

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narrowed the medical exemption for vaccination to only be things that were recognized by the

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advisory committee and immunization practices and it's very narrow so a prior allergic reaction to

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a vaccine would mean that maybe you could get a medical exemption and that was that was pretty

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much it at the time it was very very narrow but we could still get medical exemptions and

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our children could go to school with a medical exemption written by a doctor.

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So what happened in the next four years was also very interesting in 2019 in Oregon there was a

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measles outbreak also and then lo and behold a few months later the Oregon legislature put and

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Washington put forward bills to take away parental rights around the measles mumps rubella vaccine

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just a few months after their outbreak but this one was different because there's a whistleblower

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and the whistleblower was at the public health department of Oregon and he wrote a an email or

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text to my friend JB Hanley and JB lives in Oregon and this is on his sub stack you can go to JB

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Hanley blog.substack.com and you can find this note from the whistleblower and this hasn't been

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adjudicated in court but it was so specific that is very believable and he said that this was a fake

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outbreak manufactured to get the legislators and public consent to pass this bill. So all of our

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suspicions about California's outbreak being faked were fueled a whole lot more when we found out

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about the fakery in 2019 in Oregon and of course the same thing happened there they pushed through

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a bill and all of a sudden parents had no more say anymore around the MMR vaccine and it was

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mandatory for children to get that to go to school there. So then something else happened in 2019 as

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well and that was that our legislators again four years later they introduced another bill this one

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was called SB 276 the one before it in 2015 was called SB 277 so they're not in the right numerical

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order but this is SB 276 in 2019 and that one got us partially to where we are today and that is

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that they narrowed the medical exemption for children to go to school in California. So what

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they did first of all they said that you have to have a California licensed medical doctor or DO

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write the medical exemption it can't be a doctor outside of California it can't be any other

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specialty it has to be an ND or a DO only and that medical exemption has to go into a database

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which I like to call the anti-vaxxer database the real name of it is called CARE-ME California

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immunization registry dash ME and so the doctor has to register for that so the doctor gets on a list

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which I would assume is an anti-vaxxer list when the doctor signs up for that database but the

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doctor has to do that to enter the medical exemption in the system and then the medical

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exemption goes in the system under penalty of perjury to the doctor which carries a jail term

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of six months can you imagine and if the doctor writes more than four medical exemptions they can

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be under investigation and lose their license so they've completely intimidated doctors out of

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writing medical exemptions they're gone nobody will write a medical exemption anymore in California

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it's just impossible they've been bullied out of it so anybody who gets a doctor to do that they

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get their exemption in in this CARE-ME system the anti-vaxxer database and that pops up to our

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department of public health and then what the department of public health does is they've

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looked at every medical exemption we know of and they blanket deny all of them it's basically the

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boot of bureaucracy stamping down and saying no this one's not valid either it doesn't meet the

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standard no medical exemption has ever met the standard as far as our department of public health

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is concerned in California and then what happens in the database is the school who is considering

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whether or not the student can go to that school sees the result of the review from the health

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department in the database and it's always a no and so then the school's job is is to enforce this

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and be the police and tell the student that that's and the parents that that student cannot come to

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school until they comply with vaccination now so this is a de facto mandate in California of more

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than 30 vaccinations to go to school 30 doses of 10 different vaccines it's it's absolutely

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an abomination it is a violation of due process rights on five different levels and we're we're

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doing something about this we um we filed a lawsuit it's called our due process lawsuit that alleges

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the five violations of due process in California and we are arguing that the harms of vaccination

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are well documented and therefore we cannot have mandates so this case is designed to end

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mandates in in America we've filed it in a federal court in California so a decision there would have

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national implications we actually don't expect to win at the district federal court level we expect

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to lose and we're waiting for our decision in that right now we expect to appeal that um if we

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lose we'll appeal that to the ninth circuit court of appeals and if we lose that we're going to

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apply to the supreme court so they can hear that case but wherever the decision is made it's going

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to be in a federal court and what we're arguing is basically that you the judges cannot use Jacobson

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anymore to justify mandates and Jacobson is this old case from 1905 that a lot of you i'm sure are

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familiar with it was about small smallpox and there was a guy with the last name Jacobson

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and he'd been injured by the smallpox vaccine so he didn't want to get it and so he went to court

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and it was decided that Jacobson could pay a five dollar fine and not get the smallpox vaccine so

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that was that was the gist of the decision but of course the courts today never look at that and say

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okay well somebody can pay the equivalent of equivalent of a five dollar fine and get out of

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a vaccination but that was the actual ruling at the time the other thing about it is that it was

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considered common knowledge common knowledge that the smallpox vaccine was both safe and effective

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and it was the common knowledge of the state that that was the standard the state's common knowledge

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now that's not a standard that would fly today because we need an accumulation of the evidence

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and the weight of the scientific evidence is what would replace common knowledge from 1905 so it

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doesn't apply to today's vaccinations for a number of reasons number one this was about smallpox

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vaccine number two this was a case based on common knowledge of the state and our standard as i said

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is totally different today so we're arguing arguing that Jacobson cannot apply and literally

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that's the only case judges have used to justify mandates and so once Jacobson is dismissed as a

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case that can be referenced to justify mandates we won't have mandates anymore and we're also as

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i said alleging five different violations of due process in the whole vaccine scheme in California

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so what's interesting about California is our courts are are not great for our issues obviously

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because California is what I like to call absurdistan and the courts are part of that

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but we have the best plaintiffs meaning that the plaintiffs are in like some of the worst situations

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you can possibly imagine but they make really good plaintiffs for our cases for the success of our

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cases and i'm going to tell you about one plaintiff actually there's a mom and i'm not going to give

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any identifying information at her request we actually had to go through a whole other phase

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of this due process lawsuit before we could go forward to hide the identities even of the parents

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because they're so worried about being targeted at these schools and the retribution that can

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happen to them if they were found out so you you are not going to believe what happened to this mom

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and her son so her son is very vaccine injured he's got some learning issues he's got some speech

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issues and he should be able to get something called an IEP that's called an individualized

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education plan and that would also be called special ed it basically means you get extra time

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you get extra help in the classroom and a lot of kids with speech issues get those in fact the

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majority of them do so he shouldn't be any different but they're denying this child his IEP

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and what that means is that without an IEP he can't be exempt from vaccination that's the only way

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you can go to school public school in California without vaccinations is to have an IEP which means

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you have a learning learning issue that requires extra help or extra time in the classroom so

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they're not giving that to him even though he deserves it and there's a reason for that

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they know that this child is not going to be getting further vaccinations so they keep denying

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him entry the mom took him to school not once not twice but three times and the third time

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she brought a witness and they recorded it and she said my son is here to go to school

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and they wouldn't let her son go to school in this California school and then it got even worse

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it got so much worse the other shoe dropped and the school turned everything around on the mother

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and accused her of truancy for keeping her son out of school and that carries jail time of six

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months as well can you imagine the pressure this mother is under right now with jail time potentially

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looming over her head and she is standing strong and she's a lead plaintiff in our due process case

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so that we we feel that she is a great representation of of how the current laws are so wrong and so

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unlawful and are being used as a weapon against students who cannot have further vaccination

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so that's what's going on in our due process case let me see okay so i was at 2019

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okay but it gets worse how could things get any worse we've got a de facto vaccine mandate for

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children to attend public school in California for 30 doses of vaccines there's no outs it's a

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designed to fail medical exemption system so that's bad enough then in September Governor

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Newsom signs into law AB 144 well what would AB 144 do it creates a California only vaccination

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schedule so what that means is they've sealed the vaccination schedule as a starting point

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to January 2025 which as i said in the beginning includes COVID shots it includes COVID shots now

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COVID shots currently are not on the school schedule that's actually a different schedule

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that's a subset of the CDC schedule but since now the public health department is the only entity

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that can change that schedule and enforce the schedule i wouldn't be surprised if they moved

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to put the COVID shots on the school schedule for students in California again it's not currently

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on the schedule but i would not be surprised if they did that so where does that get us today

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that means parents have no say in the in the decision making process of which shots are on

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the children's schedule and which are not it's all up to the department of public health and the

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department of public health enforces the vaccine mandate so what what Newsom did is create an entire

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vaccine dictatorship in our public health department here in California and it's absolutely

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absurd it's draconian it's it's medical tyranny and the people of California are not going to

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stand for this we're not going to stand for this and the good thing is that our due process

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lawsuit is way way out ahead of this and so you know obviously it's already in process we have

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another lawsuit we're just dotting the i's and crossing the t's on it to attack this a different

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way while we still have mandates we're trying to expand the number of exemptions children can get

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so this lawsuit is based on a new exemption it's called the ADA waiver it's based on the

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Americans with Disabilities Act and what that means is that someone with a disability as defined

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by the amendment to the ADA from 2008 is someone who has any condition that's lasted longer than

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six months eczema allergies a sore knee any conditions that's long lasted longer than six

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months is considered a disability even blood disorders are considered a disability now under

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the ADA and so a parent who feels that vaccines would exacerbate that condition and further harm

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their child can go get an evaluation through a group called frontlinehealthadvocates.com

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and they get an evaluation from an out-of-state medical doctor now how would that work in the

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California system when they require an in-state medical doctor well because the ADA is federal

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and state law cannot trump the federal ADA law so under ADA there's no clause that the doctor has

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to be limited to a doctor in your state if you've got a rare condition how how could the ADA mandate

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that your doctor be in your state and you find that rare condition doctor in your state or you

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don't or you don't get care it's it's ridiculous so under the ADA these medical doctors are mostly

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out of out of California they're non-California doctors they evaluate somebody for a disability

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under the ADA and then if they qualify then they pass that file along to Americans with Disability

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Act specialist lawyers and they write a letter to the school saying that the child is exempt under

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the ADA now the schools the public schools are going into conniption fits and all they can say

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is like that's got to go and care ME they're you know they turn all robotic that's got to go in the

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care ME database the anti-vaxxer database but that's not true because this is a federal law and our

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legislators forgot about the ADA when they were making this new law about the care ME database

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so public schools tend not to accept it private schools are accepting it it's down to maybe about

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half of private schools in California now accepting the ADA waiver so it is working but our lawsuit

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is going to say that the ADA has supremacy over state law and all schools have to accept the ADA

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waiver so that's another way forward for any child with a true ADA disability who needs to

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go to school without further vaccination so we're really excited about that lawsuit as well I feel

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like we're going to file it any day now and I've read the complaint it is so strong it is it's

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really amazing we've partnered with this ADA law firm and our attorney Jessica Barsotti who's done

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a lot of our successful suits in the past is going to be the attorney of record in California and so

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between the two law groups this complaint is it's unbelievable I'm such a law geek now I love

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reading our complaints but we're really optimistic about that case as well because you really you

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can't go against the ADA one thing I want to say also about this ADA waiver is that when you work

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with frontline health advocates to get evaluated for one and you get one if the school rejects it

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then included in the fee you pay which is less than $500 you get a second letter if you need it

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from the ADA attorneys and that goes directly to the school and it says hey listen number one

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you've discriminated against a student and number two you violated the ADA don't you want to let the

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student in now and surprisingly the public schools keep saying no the private schools get scared and

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tend to take it so that's where we are in terms of a couple of our lawsuits to change the situation

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in California and yeah literally we're in a public health department dictatorship in California

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because of all these incremental changes to vaccination law incrementally taking vaccination

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rights away from parents roughly every four years here in California so I'll pause there and see if

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there are any questions very good Alex attorney Borsodi do you spell her name B-O-R-S-O-D-I

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Borsodi B-A-R-S-O-T-T-I and thank you first name Jessica very good um the question while people

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are getting their minds around Stephen getting his mind around questions on this first part

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we'll do Ryan a full making PCR test later what are your strategies for dealing with biased

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and or corrupt judges in the California system and and and while you're answering that I'm

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for an Australian it's it's amazing to me the judges are elected in some US states are they elected

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by the people in California at the lower levels um that's a good question I'm not a lawyer um

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I know the federal judges are appointed and I think the judge in our federal district case was

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a Biden appointee he's Judge Calabretta um and attorneys general when I was in America I saw

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these ads vote for so-and-so as your local judge I thought wow yeah well I know AGs are elected

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in some states I don't I think the AG in California is actually appointed but I can't remember but

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it's different in every state okay so so what's what's how do you handle this problem because

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it's a problem in Australia and as Ryan a full mix says it's a problem right around the world

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certainly in the western world and certainly in the UK it's a disaster yeah it's it's a huge

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problem literally there's nothing we can do about it literally nothing we just have these plaintiffs

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with absolutely egregious situations and we just hope what what the best combination is to actually

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lose in California federal courts and take these great plaintiff situations out of the state that

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is that would be the best scenario to get to the supreme court yeah yeah well I understand

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the faster you can get there the better all right Stephen the frost first questions to you

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so um Alex thanks for coming to speak to us at short notice as well saved us um and um that's

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my fault by the way I'm going to um yeah take my mind off the ball but anyway um how is it that all

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these frauds you know you're talking about the um regulatory possibilities for doctors closing down

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at one stage and then there are other frauds as you know you know there are frauds everywhere how

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is it that they're not considered criminal yeah it's all is criminal exactly I mean really I mean

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if you think about it this is I mean it's it's almost a rico case but you know that's that's a

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different animal but yes why why can't you bring a rico case um we have talked about it it's a

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totally different animal and I wouldn't be surprised if um we went forward with a rico case at some

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point because this is collusion and it's it's a grand con on it is yeah it is a racket it is a racket

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yeah I couldn't agree more so I will be exploring that more it's come up a number of times with our

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lawyers and I get really excited about the possibility but we don't have a case around

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that right now it's it's a totally different animal but I I do I do love that angle yeah so

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are them so when so looking at the whole of the United States are there many rico cases brought

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up or everybody thinks about it but no one ever does it no yeah isn't that interesting I remember

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when I was at Children's Health Defense we were going to bring a rico case and um it never it

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never happened but you know I can explain a little more about that when I when I do my seven levels

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of COVID fraud and talk about how that relates to Reiner Feilmick also so is that self-censorship or

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is it um lawyers fees advised by lawyers that you won't succeed or is that what goes on how

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I do so everybody's thinking about rico cases I remember three years ago we were talking about

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them and I was thinking why not you know and there were other people very enthusiastic and then

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nothing happened as far as I know there hasn't been one has there yeah as far as I know there

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has not been one also um so someone like Tom Renz why why you know why don't you contact him

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and ask him because he's pretty up for it yeah that's a great idea I love Tom that's a great idea

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yeah I think I need to reach outside of California for some more specialist lawyers who specialize

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in that I think it just it's an issue of connecting with the right legal team who's got expertise in

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rico so it seems to me that you know if you play the game according to what they expect

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you're going to lose but if you bring a rico case then the outcome is very uncertain I would think

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right but for both sides maybe but someone needs to have the courage to do it

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in my I mean I'm not American but yeah I've got the courage I'm in this um until we win

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I've got the courage I just need the funding and the right legal team and if it's if it's a viable

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way forward if a rico case is meritorious I'm I'm totally behind it well I had a conversation

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with Tom Renz about a case a possibility of a case and he was up for it and it was pretty kind of

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asymmetric shall we say you know asymmetric warfare so I'm sure he'd be up for a rico case

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okay well will you connect me with him Stephen oh you don't know I'm not connected with him I

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know who he is um but no I'll connect you um amazing thank you I better write it down otherwise

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I'll forget um so I think we've got to be you can see with Trump you know whatever you think of

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Trump he's incredibly creative um and um he people don't know what he's going to do next even his own

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family as far as I can see and and so um but I think you're never we're never going to win if

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we're too predictable right right so anyway um how oh yes how many lawsuits have you got going

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at the moment your organization uh we have the due process lawsuit where we're waiting for a decision

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and as I said we're about to file the ADA lawsuit um we just took on a hospital homicide lawsuit

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that we'll file in 2026 that's another really sad story and we're waiting for a decision still in

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a masking case in a school from when we were locked down and and how many cases did you bring

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which came to a conclusion in the last five years or um we had um not every case had a judgment but

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our cases in particular on colleges forced them to do the right thing because they were embarrassed

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by their policies so much in the press so um those those suits are awesome because you don't need to

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even get to a judgment um they just get embarrassed and do the right thing yeah sure yeah like

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Loyola Marymount University they were segregating students um in their housing by vaccination

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status and they also indicated vaccination status with armbands and so why do you think it is that

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the universities are so sensitive to public opinion um that's what I've gathered from what

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you just said and and the public health um authorities are not sensitive at all and just

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plow on you know with their with their tyranny why why is the difference I think because people

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um pay privately to go to university so they have to pay attention a little more to public opinion

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than let's say like a public k-12 school where um you know children are entitled to a free and

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public education and then and the public schools they also need they they need their dollars per

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student per day so they they do like to keep the children in school but for some reason the one

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the one disqualifier is if the kids don't have vaccines then they don't care about the dollars

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per student per day it's that insane yeah but alex is not just about money is that you did

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I think you said that the universities the people at the universities were embarrassed by the crazy

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situation how is it that the public health people aren't embarrassed or are they bureaucrats

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through and through always being bureaucrats they're just they're just bureaucrats and you know when

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they came into power they were they were just power tripping over everybody they've never had

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such power and they didn't have the expertise to be making these decisions they were making I mean

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I remember um you know our public health officer in Santa Clara county here in California it was

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Sarah Cody and she just retired because she was under so much fire and she was the lockdowns in

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Santa Clara county which includes Silicon Valley were were absolutely insane they even filed the

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fine the church I go to 4.2 million dollars for staying open when we were locked down and they

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find they find the church I think five thousand dollars for every hug they counted in the parking

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lot and for every case of singing too close to somebody else in every case of somebody not

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wearing a mask in the church and the pastor of great respect for him and his name is Mike McClure

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and he one day walked out in the public health department goons were all around the parking lot

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and peering through binoculars through a chain link fence from a church next door and he just

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handed them a tape measure and said just want to make sure you're measuring six feet accurately

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so he would not stand down and now those fines have been chopped down to still a million dollars

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but that was all under Sarah Cody and her draconian policies where you know liquor stores

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and strip clubs were open but people couldn't go to church and so I was talking to Jay Bhattacharya

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who also lives in Silicon Valley and I was talking to him about the PCR test I said how do these

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public health officers included Sarah Cody do they really take every case in the PCR test

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is at face value because that's just not true like when you sequence the results which is the

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FDA gold standard that you're supposed to do on any PCR positive you know it's as much as like

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90 percent false positives like how in the world is she taking these all these PCR cases as positive

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and Jay Bhattacharya looked at me and said Alex you know more about the PCR test than Sarah Cody

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and most doctors at Stanford I thought how can that be I'm just I'm an MBA and it didn't take

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very much for me to learn about the PCR test I mean are these people willfully ignorant

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and I just think they were power tripping I mean just to not even look into the PCR test

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it just it just fuels their their power to do what they did to us and Sarah Cody she was part of the

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CDC program called EIS epidemic intelligence services before she was in Santa Clara County

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that's the CIA of the CDC so she was put in Santa Clara County for a reason and I think it was a

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very high value county because in Santa Clara where we have all these Silicon Valley companies

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like the Mag-7 are here most of the Mag-7 are here you know you can shut down all the small businesses

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and the county's not going to lose that much tax revenue because they have the Mag-7 a lot of the

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Mag-7 right in the area continuing to be open and pay their taxes so it was just a very high value

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county and especially because you know these are the companies that are building our digital prison

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for us as well so it's quite the powerful position to be in if you were Sarah Cody and I don't think

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they wanted to give that up yeah what's the name of the I can't believe I've forgotten it the the

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guy who died allegedly in 2019 August of 2000 he um he was the guy who yeah Kerry Mullis yeah so

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Kerry Mullis the art test Kerry Mullis himself who won a Nobel Prize for his discovery in 1983 he won

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it in 93 10 years later right well he died in August 2019 and I don't I think he in particular

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he had to be dead when what happened in 2020 so you're in California and he died in California

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I believe I can't remember where it was yeah I think he lived in Santa Cruz yeah and his wife

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quickly shut down all kind of um and they did the same thing they're absolutely unashamed these

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people you know behind big conspiracies they did the same thing with David Kelly uh Janice Kelly

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the wife closed down everything on behalf of the British government in the investigation of his

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death as far as we were concerned so I was involved in that but um so as far as I can see she did the

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same thing with her husband you know if she's wrong it's the ultimate betrayal even if she's

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done it intentionally you know to kind of quickly say oh there's nothing to see here he died of

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whatever it was pneumonia um in 2019 August 2019 when the pcr test was absolutely central to what

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they did in 2020 exactly and he was saying um he was saying my uh technique must but must not pcr

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technique that is polymerase chain reaction um so that technique must not be used in uh in a

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diagnostic test for a viral illness that's right yeah he said it was a lab amplification technique

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it was not to be used for diagnosis and he was shouting about Fauci um um Fauci doesn't know

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anything about anything and I've asked to debate him um you know I've offered to debate him he

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won't do it you know he was really going for Fauci uh hated him clearly I've seen him talking about

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him and um so I think another asymmetric technique might be to uh start uh raising

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awareness of when Kerry Mullis died because he died in California that's right and also well you

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know you might not want to do it yourself because you're a woman you know and you don't you don't

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want to die yet but um but someone needs to go and start asking questions in the town where he died

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yeah that was I bet someone knows I bet that's easy enough we know a lot of people in Santa Cruz

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that are really into the medical freedom movement and supporters of free now foundation so so so

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it's possible to write a letter you know so to the press as we did with David Kelly and said we

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didn't believe what Lord Hutton was trying to say that he committed suicide um we didn't believe

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that as medical doctors and and got the letter published in the Guardian and and we didn't need

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any anything else we changed public opinion without the inquest which we were formally seeking

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and people were saying oh you didn't get the inquest even I said we didn't need the inquest

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because we changed public opinion without it from suicide to murder

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and in the case of Kerry Mullis it would be natural causes to murder you know and he had to be dead

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the point is he had to be dead before they could launch what they did launch in 2020 so I think

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they definitely killed him anyway um thank you so much and that really Stephen that that ties in

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perfectly with my narrative around the PCR test oh absolutely and in fact that narrative actually

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starts with Theranos but I'll wait till we get to that presentation um do you have more more

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questions Stephen oh one last question so one last question about Maha as far as I can see Alex I

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I don't like to be unkind but I can't see that they've done anything at all so there was a big

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flurry you know in July I think it was in September uh the world would learn what where the

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autism cases were coming and even Trump was heralding this you know and then when it came

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it was paracetamol Tylenol right and I thought what a damp squib I can't believe

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what in the world is happening in Maha I think they're a big massive disappointment and actually

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well you've just mentioned one of them but you know he thought that I can't remember now so what

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was the Great Barrington Declaration the big thing about that was that they thought lockdowns were

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okay but but um but you know it should have been just the elderly who should be and the and the

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vulnerable who should be locked out so there's a fundamental misunderstanding in my case they

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didn't talk about the PCR technique as far as I can remember Great Barrington Declaration and yet

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people were pushing the Great Barrington Declaration it was a limited hangout it was

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obviously a limited hangout and Batacarria was one of them and then he ends up at Maha

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so he doesn't understand anyway right well but get get this Batacarria's boss at Stanford was

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Sara Cody's husband yes but then he shouldn't allow himself to be the main one of the main

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people on our side because he knows he's compromised yeah you understand oh yeah yeah he's

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he's got he's really trying to walk a fine line he's always um kind of the peacemaker um in the

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middle I he's a very lovely person to interact with but even like my insider people at NIH

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think that he's he's kind of wishy-washy and he's not willing to come out wet unfortunately

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in male speak anyway thank you so much Alex all right let's get let's get to thanks Steven

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lots of hands lots of hands up thanks Steven Sebastian Hi Alex um uh thanks for for coming on

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and I really have to say I'm shocked at California I'm shocked at what's happening in the States

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but I only have one question and uh that would be about religious exemptions in California

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is that an issue do they do they go after that also I mean if it's not medical issues or they

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don't accept medical exemptions do they accept religious exemptions in California or has it

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gone that communist it's gone that communist literally when they took away the personal

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belief exemption that covered religious exemptions and so those completely went away in 2015

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there is an attorney named Greg Glazer for anybody who's looking for a religious exemption

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and he's writing successful religious exemptions that religious schools are taking

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and it's not technically legal for them to accept them but apparently they are

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okay thank you and and Sebastian that reminds me of that religious exemption

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and the grounds for that and um Gavin De Becker in in the book Forbidden Facts goes beautifully

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through the contents of vaccines and refers to the witches in Macbeth and I went after Dave

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Raznik I will read out to you this beautiful quote of what is in these vaccines of the of the

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rat's tails and pork and and and rendered pork fat and I'm just quickly looking first we'll do

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Dave and I'll read it to you and then he and then he links it to the three witches saying bubble

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bubble toil and trouble and what are they putting into the who knows the saying off pat you know

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it's brilliant all right Dave you go first I'll come back good Gertrude Faust does the same thing

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actually Charles yeah very interesting very interesting all right Dave well Alex good to

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see you again it's been a while yeah you too Dave we were on that same PCR commission together with

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James Lyons-Wyler and Dr. Sin Han Lee that was a while ago yeah and you're you're certainly a warrior

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and that's great I am an expert witness and in a legal case in southern California

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and it's gotten to the the ninth circuit I think that's the ninth circuit federal court there

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of appeals and they're just sitting on it and we and they won't do anything they won't make

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a judgment because they're afraid our estimate is they're reason they're making no judgment on it

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to say oh they agree with it they don't because we're guessing they don't want us to take it to

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the supreme court we don't know why they're sitting on it they will not make a decision

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and we know they hate us and this this case is in its fifth year right now all right and and you're

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involved in these legal cases different sorts of cases and we came up with this idea what what can

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we do and we were thinking about going to some people like Tucker Carlson or something and and

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bring the story to him and publicize it and put pressure on on the ninth circuit to do something

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you know rather than just sit there and we don't know if that if that's a good strategy or not or

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whatever and I was just curious if if you guys have run into anything like that in California

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and if you have any thoughts about different cases people getting together and working together

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and to try to do something about the completely corrupt judicial system in at least in southern

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California I don't know about northern California so you get my point oh yeah I totally get it yeah

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there's nothing we can do about the corrupt judicial system it's it's horrible it's really

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horrible we can only hope that you know some of the Biden appointees get replaced by Trump

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appointees but beyond that I mean it's not going to change there's nothing that's going to change

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here so yeah the media is really the only way to put pressure on the courts and these judges to

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make the decisions and you know listen if we don't have a decision in our due process case

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by early December we're going to go public with it and make a big stink

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oh I would love to talk with you if when you make that decision and and put your lawyers and our

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lawyers together you know privately quietly or whatever and talk to each other and see yeah if

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see if we can join forces somehow well we could bring a record case with Dave and by the way Dave

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knows the people who are involved with the PCR technique in fact you worked with them didn't you

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David? Peter Duesberg? Kerry Mullis was a friend of mine yeah there we are he's a good guy and uh

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yeah he no Alexan he had a stroke people said it was publicized that he had a pneumonia uh no he

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had a stroke just like Peter Duesberg did oh the three I'm sorry I'm gonna take just a couple of

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minutes here just to emphasize this weird thing Kerry Mullis Nobel Laureate, Luke Montagnier a

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Nobel Laureate, Peter Duesberg a member of National Academy of Sciences and and uh uh World Authority

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on Retroviruses and things like it Authority these are the three most credential outspoken critics of

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Anthony Fauci. Two of them died you know really quick and and uh Kerry and Peter had a stroke

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Peter survived he's still he's still with us but he's not terribly functional right now

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of course Luke Montagnier uh he's gone now I mean you know if this was Hollywood you would know

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that that was that was designed that had to happen I'll shut up yeah well I see the pattern as well

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and is there a way to induce a stroke in someone? Yeah electromagnetic radiation is one way you can

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do it with chemicals you can do all kinds of ways especially these guys are older these guys

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are older it's fairly easy to do. David couldn't if you're a friend of Kerry Mullis' couldn't you

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team up with Alex and you know so a couple a male and a female are always more approachable than

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than a male on his own so you could maybe go to that town and start asking questions of the locals

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that listen I'm involved in so many things right now um I

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that doesn't sound like a very good thing for me to to to do because that would be so laborious

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so time consuming and I already have very little time. Yes but it might be the thing that breaks

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the whole thing. All right you've raised up you've raised the point let's yeah let's move on it's a

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great idea and David you've planted the seed Stephen okay Macbeth three witches stirring a

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bubbling cauldron chanting out the ingredients eye of newt toe of frog lizard's leg tongue of God

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coming back to the religious exemptions well Gavin de Becker in Forbidden Facts page 51 says

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some old-time vaccine ingredients were made by steeping them for years in a mix of ox bile

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glycerin and potato slices over time vaccinations evolved to include dried rabbit spinal cords

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duck embryos chicken blood human bile ground up rat spleens boiled pigskin

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then he goes on but enough about the past we've come a long way since then here are some ingredients

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in today's modern vaccines Sebastian this is relevant to you okay the religious exemption

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so this is what's in modern vaccines gelatin from boiled pigskin chicken embryo protein

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embryo protein blood from the hearts of cow fetuses human fetus DNA fragments

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albumin from human blood plasma oil extracted from shark livers proteins from army worm ovaries

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monkey kidney DNA fragments

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so then he refers so there you are there's a nice little ingredient says no i don't know why that

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play came to mind this is about Macbeth but let's get back to vaccine ingredients and on top of

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what i've just read out he says there's formaldehyde polysorbate 18 potassium chloride by the way the

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final ingredient administered during executions by lethal injection phenol borax sodium borate

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used in pesticides not allowed in food but okay for vaccines monosodium glutamate aluminium

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salts thimerosol ethyl ethyl mercury triton x100 also used in spermicides and he says this to ensure

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balance Sebastian i mean Alex i'm providing a giant dose of reassurance about how safe all those

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ingredients are when injected into infants and children reassurance from the nation's leading

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medical centers well-established news organizations prestigious universities the federal government

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and the world health organization isn't it so beautifully written so so ironic and you look at

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that list of crap no wonder you want exemptions from having that crap put into your bodies everybody

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so any anti-vaxxer watching this you are highly intelligent to be an anti-vaxxer and we'll go to

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marv in oregon since you've been talking about oregon alex yeah uh thanks alex uh yeah we every

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session we have a battle uh but we have uh this consortium of moms uh oregonians for medical

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freedom children's health defense oregon oregon moms union moms for liberty people's rights

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anyway these mothers and there's they grow every session uh several hundred show up if they

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introduce a bill but what i wanted to share well i got a question but first i want to share a

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a hopeful sign i live a few blocks from the barber robert human resources building on our state

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capitol mall and i have a little scooter that i ride around salem and i go i ride through the

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basement parking where the executives park they have been adding security at the oregon health

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authority in the lobby now they have two desks for security in the basement they now have two

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uh soldier looking guys that obviously they're a contractor but the the oregon health authority

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those bureaucrats are beginning to fear us because we know what they're doing they added 17 million

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to their budget in 2021 and that was for seven positions data analysts now how the hell do you

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spend 17 million dollars for seven positions well they do it you need office space you need

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but anyway i wanted to ask you about your your vaccine injuries my son is going he's going to

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england paris and munich and saltsburg with his junior high school no he's a junior in high school

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now one of the blessings of the pandemic in my life our public schools were closed for two years

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we got him into a private school when he was in the sixth grade and they didn't close at all

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it's a wonderful school they're a little they're a little religious but i love it i love it it's a

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great background for him but anyway i don't think he's got any vaccines his mother is an anti-vaxxer

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as i am an anti-vaxxer so i i guess they don't have to get vaccines now to fly to uh europe

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what what were your what were the six vaccines that you got and where were you going when you

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were injured thanks i was going to bali and i didn't know what i know now i was 29 and you

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know i was just a corp i was in corporate research and so i got five out of my six vaccines could be

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given all together to a baby at a well baby visit so i got hepatitis b hepatitis a diphtheria and

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tetanus polio and then the one that you normally wouldn't give to a baby would be oral typhoid

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and two weeks after that i was in bali and my legs turned into noodles i collapsed i started weeping

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for no apparent reason and i came back with what i thought was jet lag until it lasted weeks and

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then months then finally i was like months of jet lag probably not jet lag and i was sleeping 16

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hours a day um had a 24 7 migraine because i had encephalitis and then about seven months after i

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got those vaccines um that would have been like january uh 1997 the brain damage set in and um i

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i completely lost my short-term memory i stopped being able to do math and that's when i couldn't

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do my job anymore and um so i went in and took a medical leave of absence and i never

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was never well enough to go back to corporate america but um luckily three years after that

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happened um i was you know about 80 bed bound in my late 20s early 30s um i discovered the gluten

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free diet and half of half of my disabling symptoms went away so i still had the other half of disabling

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symptoms but that allowed me to have a relationship and get married um and then i gave birth to twins

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in 2002 so um i was i was able to do that but i couldn't go back to corporate america unfortunately

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i still couldn't i mean the only reason i can run free now foundation the way i do is because i work

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from home and i can work really weird hours because i'm really bad at mornings still i still have a

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lot of symptoms that prevent me from having a good night of sleep most days so i can take a nap in

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the morning and do other medical stuff to you know get symptoms to go away so i can be productive

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starting around lunchtime usually

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okay very good uh hey trellis i wanted it in oregon our judges are elected positions they're

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non-partisan on our ballot but they're rarely opposed they're usually just the judge's name

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and he's re-elected so our judges positions are controlled by the bar association they decide

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who's gonna who's gonna go on who's going on the ballot okay interesting

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well that's that's that's that's that's it's amazing to me you know i think about all of you

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watching this now think about how you would know if a lawyer is any good or a doctor

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or an accountant or a dentist how would you know you've got no idea and even if someone one of

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your friends recommends a lawyer to you that the experience that the lawyer did for that client

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might have been spectacular but the lawyer could be a total dud in any other field it's a great

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problem it's a great problem but anyway that's why personal referrals are so important in the

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professions thanks marv that's great work and well done for your child going to private school and

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that's another question i have for alex but i've got many questions we'll go to other questions

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ron our favorite pinup boy in california hey how you doing he's a force hi ron how you doing um

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just point of information everybody um julie was at serving jury duty yesterday and um she fainted

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and was taken to e by ems to orville hospital and her hemoglobin was back down to five and she has

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to get more blood um and by the way charles she's just happened to have um forbidden facts with her

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and every every person that she's talked to regarding her conditions she said quote i'm

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telling everyone the vaccine f'd me up so um and she texted on our chat a few minutes ago alex that

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she's sorry that she couldn't watch you live so she'll probably listen to an under way play but

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yeah just want to be worried about that my prayers go to her i found out she's in the hospital

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yesterday yeah anyway and and who's ron important point alex what advice do you give to anybody who

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goes to a hospital in california uh have an advocate have an advocate with you at all times

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and literally i would have a lawyer on call um long before you need to go to the hospital

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well i um saw peter mcculler dr peter mcculler a week ago this past thursday and we took a picture

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together and there was this grimace and pain on my face and i had to retake the picture because i

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didn't want to post it on social media at his urging and i explained to him that i have this

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pain in my my left left arm left shoulder and he says i think you have a torn rotator cuff

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i really don't want to call kaiser and go back there but yet on the other hand um i am in in pain

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not lifting something because turning my shoulder a weird way so i have to it seems like because of

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covid we don't want to go to the hospital no and and you don't need to go in the system for that

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if it's a tear and it's not fully torn um usually like a series of ozone injections or um platelets

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injections can reverse that and sometimes um stem cells can reverse it also and even like some cells

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even a one and done thing but platelets or ozone is typically a series i've i've had great success

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with stuff like that right ronald don't go to the hospital for that i had a torn rotator cuff and it

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healed without anything it still hurts somewhat but you have to work through the pain and slowly

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do physical therapy just don't let it stop moving as long as you can pick your arm up over your head

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you know in abduction you don't need the hospital for that don't do it okay okay karen next time

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next time you're done i can do doctor stuff i'm a retired i have my my license i had to i had to go

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as retired uh florida physician in order to get the license they won't let me use uh renewed but

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it's renewed now so ronald i can i will help you and alex is right don't do it okay sorry to

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interrupt but i just don't i wanted to knit that in the bud okay ron next time you're done this

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stand my radiologist and ronald ronald um the only thing you need to be worried about is is there a

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frac so did you um suffer traumas you to your shoulder did i what uh steven trauma to the

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trauma i don't know steven i i don't know it's because i'm sleeping on my left side um it could

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be exacerbated by my motorcycle riding i don't have a harley so the vibration is isn't that serious so

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i don't know there's the most common vaccine injury frozen shoulder i'm sorry what dr frost

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frozen shoulder steven's right what i had to work through was frozen shoulder that hurt like hell

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yes it does i had frozen shoulder i never went to the hospital and i got it moving again it

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hurts like hell just prevent that okay totally off topic right now but yeah i have a referral

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for you and also there's a very common vaccine injury the most common one called serva shoulder

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injury induced by vaccination and that can cause frozen shoulder and um maybe some of the symptoms

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you're um you're experiencing okay well but frozen shoulder can cause enormous problems for people

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over a long period of time even like nine months and event but eventually it goes but you've got

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to be sure there's no fracture but you had no trauma so that's not a worry yeah i'm sorry for

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getting off topic um but it just the point about going to the hospital is concerning my main point

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is this and you mentioned um great glazer i don't know if you know this you probably do know this

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but he is the attorney representing michelle spencer who basically uh and they all appeared

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before this group several weeks ago but michelle spencer is the um Fresno nurse who is suing her

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hospital system for um um hiding the fetal demise my main point is this i appreciate what free now

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foundation is doing tackling everything at the um um in the courts and so forth

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and that's just one battle i believe that we need to be fought and you guys are violently fighting it

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the other is informing people if people were informed what's in the context of forbidding

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facts um um developing memes um poster uh they call it poster board stuff we need to start

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reaching the people irrespective of the courts irrespective of of of the california state

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legislature and i think we need to have some sort of brainstorming session how we can do just that

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i mean if we're going around county to county yeah i've been wanting to influence the board

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supervisors to do the right thing but a byproduct which i didn't see when i started this trick was

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basically talking to people along the way it could be a custodial staff who just happens to be doing

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his or her work they stop they look at the monitor they hear julie threets um i'm representing the

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vaccine injured they hear my narrative you got people watching in the replay you've got people

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watching live and and we'll never know how many people we have met perhaps minds have been changed

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maybe i shouldn't take my child to get another vaccine you know and and i think that we need to

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aggressively as you're doing pursue the matter in the courts but also we need to have some sort of

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public information campaign and and and because we got to reach the people it's about we the

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people because even if the courts rule one way our way or a rule against us it's all about

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local control and no i'm not talking about county yes which is local control the local control i'm

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talking about is our bodies we all have to not comply and if we can communicate that directly

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to the people forget mainstream media just just boots on the ground and and that that's my that's

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my um um those are my thoughts what we should be doing and that's what i've learned

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um going around from county to county you're absolutely right and thank you so much god bless

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you for doing that going to all those counties i think you're you've gone to 51 out of 58 counties

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in california now yes 51 i would have gone to my 52nd to inyo county in independence but

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we've had a rain a storm a snowstorm which is perilous for vehicles it would be life

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threatening for motorcyclists so i really was wanting to go out today but you know i i gotta

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i gotta make um good decisions when i go so yes i do have seven counties left and all of them are

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in the southern state and the county that i was going to go to today i would have had to go up

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highway 50 lake tahoe and high country snow country and in 395 which would have been a

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beautiful ride but it would have been a paradise ride because of the snow storms we've been having

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as of late good decision doing great work great work ron um and the answer to your question that

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all of us are dealing with is that change happens one conversation at a time which is

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the example that charlie kirk gave which is the history of the last 2000 years is people doing

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wrong what you're doing of going before groups of people and talking that's what needs to happen

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change happens one conversation at a time we just have to be willing to do the work and stop looking

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for quick answers and secondly it took 30 years for william wilberforce to get the uk commons

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house of commons to pass the anti-slavery legislation 30 years of conversations so everybody

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that's why we're going to be up we're going to be up for it and keep speaking and no shutting up

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all right sebastian it was on horse where the motorcycle yeah well in australia's federation

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the whole federation when you look at the history of thomas jefferson and how difficult it was for

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him to get from virginia to washington by bloody horseback in the middle of winter you're talking

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about your bike in the middle of winter what an extraordinary trip that was to go to a meeting

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but you know the federation in australia in america all happened with conversations on

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the back of bloody horse-drawn trailers and town hall meetings so ron didn't you have him

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um a snowstorm in california about two months ago i seem to remember you mentioned yes that was in

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may and i was listening to john stolleman i think and yeah that was a snowstorm it started to snow

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and i had a choice of either continuing or um or or or hunker down somewhere i decided to continue

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because i knew it's about 50 miles from plaserville lower elevation but i did

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ride through the some snow and sleet so are you in northern or southern california or are you just

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i'm in northern california um kind of at the probably the northernest part of the san juan

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king valley all right sebastian glenn and then we'll go back to alex for to do talk about ron

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and for me because we'll have an hour to to do that so go sebastian actually i have um i have about

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20 or 25 minutes left for me okay all right well that's what we're going to do so sebastian glenn

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and then back to alex for rhino update or rhino issues very very quickly remarks uh about traveling

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with the vaccines i believe that is what this whole thing is all about the only reason we're

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still allowed to travel is because putin hailed uh vladimir putin healed the the vaccine injuries

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and and covid with overnight in february 2022 um charles you asked or someone asked what about

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dentists and lawyers how do we know who we can trust well i can tell you from my experience that

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i had a dentist who had a big flyer i mean it was a big banner outside of his office

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that everyone could see and it said i want to see your smile leave your mask off so that i mean

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showed him he stood out incidentally or coincidentally whatever he was actually i

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believe he was targeted he was a um targeted with turbo cancer he did not take the backs and still

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died within less than three months from cancer so um one can you know one can conspire whatever one

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one wants to think about that and my last point is for everyone who joins our things i mean to say

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this every week when we when you post this on on rumble if everyone was to just tap the like button

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every one of us we would get more than eight likes or nine likes per week for each stream because

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this stream deserves it you guys have done stephen charles you have done so much for the world

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and we i cannot emphasize this more often than i should like everyone here should like these

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streams that you post thank you very much thanks sebastian well said glenn

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hi um i want to address the the dialogue and the question that ronald brought up relative to

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uh the risk of going to hospitals and mine is boy avoided at all cost it's not a safe place

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the vast majority of hospitals across the u.s are still recommending remdesivir on their protocols

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on their protocols i you know if if i if i was someone going neat and i absolutely had to go

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into a hospital that would be my first question do you guys still have that anywhere that's allowed

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in your hospital if so i'm not coming near it um the other thing i want to identify is relative to

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the particular uh joint issue that you have this is an area that i've dealt with quite a bit over

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the past 25 years uh starting with a with a book called brain longevity um that was published in

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1997 it's not in current print but there's there's used versions of it it's an excellent book uh and

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with that a whole range of the anti-inflammation mechanisms that can be used to bring down the

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inflammation in your body and and often that will completely relieve um your different kind of joint

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problems i i had joint problems with carpal tunnel sin on the left wrist uh tennis elbow on the right

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uh elbow and and a rotator cup in my right shoulder all of them got eliminated once i was testing out

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the paleo diet before i put my mother on it and with her i was able to bring down the inflammation

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so much that her dementia that had prevented it had had lost all of her uh for you know conversion

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of her short-term memory into long-term memory so she could never remember anything more than one day

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that all got relieved and and her standard memory came back i mean i i was astounded how

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successful it was and it's just a whole range of books on that uh the migraine miracle the sugar-free

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gluten-free ancestral diet to reduce inflammation uh the Alzheimer's prevention and treatment diet

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using nutrition to combat the effects of Alzheimer's disease uh one that's you know got a lot of

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coverage in certain time periods uh grain brain by david permell uh the perfect health diet how to

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regain health and lose weight by eating brilliant brilliant fantastic thanks for the reminder that

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is so important reduce inflammation what a great story reduce inflammation reduce dementia lovely

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we're going to keep moving jeremy quickly then back to alex because she's only got her for another

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19 minutes brilliant stuff glenn and by the way all of you who have never heard of cytokines

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please look them up you must understand cytokines if we're talking about inflammation um jeremy

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yeah thank you charles and thank you alex for your presentation and your work it's great work

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um i'm a fellow mba um which doesn't really mean much no i i have my baby book

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now i don't mean to do to uh denigrate mba's that happens enough but um i i do have my baby book i'm

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77 i'm in canada and i did receive only three inoculations if you want to call i have vaccines

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smallpox and tetanus and um polio that was it and of course there were one or a few boosters

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for polio i can't remember my question is do you have a concept where you are in california in the

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courts called judicial review which is something i wasn't aware of here until i started watching

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um the tribunals which were held to um basically to take away the licenses of some of the physicians

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in ontario canada here and they used a concept called judicial review which meant as i understand

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it i stand to be corrected that there were certain things that you couldn't challenge

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that were established as the court would accept as being fact and could not be challenged

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like the vaccines are safe and effective well uh that's why the doctors were there

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because they were questioning whether the vaccines were safe and effective also anything

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concerning the pcr test could not be challenged and there were a number of others i can't remember

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that the court established with judicial review now this is an area charles and jeremy i think

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you mean judicial notice okay could be yep now judicial review is a different concept

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but judicial notice is that's right the the matters that have been debunked you know that

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it's been debunked that vaccines are unsafe keep going no that that's good i i needed to be

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corrected on this because i could only remember some vague parts of these tribunals uh carry

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that were held and of course the the outcome was predetermined so judicial notice all right

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i'll mark that down thank you thanks jeremy all right alex um judicial review is used in australia

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and the uk to review the actions of judges and public service but we won't go there at the moment

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we we have you now for 25 for 15 minutes alex please give us an update on rhino your perspective

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on this pcr because it's very relevant and also shines a light a light on the plight of rhino being

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unlawfully incarcerated by the german government absolutely and i don't have an update on his

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current situation but i did want to go back to an analysis i did in 2020 that has to do with the pcr

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test being the only place that any legal cases should have focused in my opinion and i'm going

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to share my graphic in a second here it's called the seven levels of covid fraud and the idea was

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to evaluate each of those levels on a scientific basis to see if each level would carry scientific

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water if you will and if um if due to that it would be a good place to focus in court

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and what i concluded from that analysis it's a very business school kind of thing to do is to

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deconstruct their strategy to figure out where to where to go in and where to be most incisive and

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surgical with legal work in this case i did that to help children's health defense focus their

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lawsuits so um let me share the graphic right now and i'm just going to talk you through it quickly

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and show you why i came to that conclusion and then i think it'll be really obvious why they did

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yep okay uh okay there we go so um i'll take you through the the seven levels and i'll go into some

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detail especially on the bottom ones um the first level is the issue with um isolating the

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um sars-cov-2 virus um and it was it was never purified as everybody here knows it was never

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proven infectious or pathogenic and the fan woo at all paper from january 2020 um and it was

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paper from january 2020 was based on the lung sample from one man who was in wuhan at a time

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of year especially when the pollution was at its highest so it was never determined if that was an

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infection or if that was somebody detoxing from all the pollution in wuhan and then that group fan

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woo at all i think everybody here probably knows that they they threw away that original sample

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after they sequenced it so that it could not be peer reviewed by other researchers

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and that became the basis of the the drosten paper that defined what the pcr test would be

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so without um without a real reference sample that was peer reviewed by other researchers

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there's a huge issue with the validation of the pcr test and there are a number of other issues

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with the pcr test as you all know a lot of them were detailed in the corman drosten review

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website which right now has like a warning on it like i don't know if i should access it or not but

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they listed 10 fatal flaws with the pcr test and there are many more than that including how it was

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used um then after they established there was a virus and this is kind of how the narrative

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is rolled out then they manipulated the data here in level two um they had this fake ferguson model

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of how many people were going to die you know if we did nothing you know two million people in

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the united states were supposed to die if we didn't lock everybody down and then we had the

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ihme at university of washington funded by bill gates um that also made some bogus project

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projections to scare everybody and then the coup de grace was that mastercard and bill gates

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donated 50 million dollars to the who to get them to to declare sars-cov-2 a pandemic when there was

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no evidence of widespread death um from what they're calling an infectious agent um the third level

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is this pcr test and as we were talking about earlier it's not a diagnostic diagnostic there's

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a super high rate of false positives if you went ahead and sequenced any pcr positive result to

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find out what um what sequenced the letters of the genetic code were in it turned out that you know

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around 90 of them were false positives so those weren't all cases it was also misused according

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to the emergency use authorization um by using an unhealthy people which is verboten with any pcr

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test and it was spelled out in the eua document that it was not to be used unhealthy people so

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it was used illegally as a screening mechanism and then these results were not sequenced and

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i was with dr dave rasnik and dr sin hong lee in a coalition around the pcr led by dr james lians

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myler and dr sin hong lee wrote the fda and said hey why aren't these being sequenced these pcr

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positives because that's the gold standard and of course the the uh sorry he he wrote a letter to

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the fda and of course the fda you know never did anything about it um but there's lots of problems

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with this pcr test so as you can see in levels one two and three they're in order of increasing

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dependency so if you could do a lawsuit around the lack of isolation of the sars-cov-2 virus or

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not proving that this was actually an infectious agent then all the blocks here would tumble there

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wouldn't have been an issue if you could have taken out the block of the manipulated data and

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said hey we caught you you know those are fake models they it was it would kind of end up in like

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oh mea culpa we would never do that again right so that's not a good level for lawsuits but the pcr

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test is what reiner knew was um was the foundation of all these other dependencies on top of it it

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led to all the reporting um to inflate the cases and to create this double standard for death

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reporting on the death certificates um it it was it was the foundation of of inflating these deaths

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it um was the foundation of of giving these perverse incentives to especially people in

858
1:32:42 --> 1:32:47
hospitals to diagnose covet and do all these horrible treatments experimental treatments if

859
1:32:47 --> 1:32:52
you will on people like remdesivir and the ventilator and to actually kill them there were

860
1:32:52 --> 1:32:57
incentives for that the whole way through but that was all dependent on the levels below it

861
1:32:57 --> 1:33:04
and that's level what i call level four and then so levels one two three and four were needed to um

862
1:33:04 --> 1:33:08
to initiate level five which was this initial population control and lockdowns and then level

863
1:33:08 --> 1:33:12
six is the introduction of the vaccine and then number seven is where we are right now this full

864
1:33:12 --> 1:33:19
population control of you know this technocracy that we're hurtling toward so this was all a

865
1:33:19 --> 1:33:25
manufactured crisis from the beginning but i looked at these blocks you know on behalf of chd because

866
1:33:25 --> 1:33:30
i was a board member there at the time i said hey you know i think the lowest level block where we

867
1:33:30 --> 1:33:36
could focus our legal cases is the pcr test because look at all these dependencies above level three

868
1:33:36 --> 1:33:43
and i think this pcr test would hold water and it never got traction at chd some people actually

869
1:33:43 --> 1:33:48
made fun of me for thinking we should file pcr cases i was always disagreeing with bobby kennedy

870
1:33:48 --> 1:33:54
about this um and so it was a very frustrating time for me and i'm going to take this down now

871
1:33:56 --> 1:34:03
but when reiner when i saw my first reiner fulmick video and he said that he was going to do a lawsuit

872
1:34:03 --> 1:34:10
around the pcr test i said there's my man wow this is exactly where all the legal dollars should

873
1:34:10 --> 1:34:17
have been focused when we were locked down um and it never happened it never happened and i think

874
1:34:17 --> 1:34:24
this is the the reason why reiner is right now in prison i did have conversations with reiner

875
1:34:24 --> 1:34:29
when he was still thinking of doing a pcr test lawsuit and that's when i was running the children's

876
1:34:29 --> 1:34:36
health defense california chapter and it was interesting i had to have two separate calls with

877
1:34:36 --> 1:34:42
um lawyers and scientists and doctors who believe in viruses for one call and then the other call i

878
1:34:42 --> 1:34:48
was arranging the same conversation about the lawsuit with lawyers scientists and doctors

879
1:34:48 --> 1:34:55
who don't believe the virus narrative because what happens at if you dig into the pcr test at all

880
1:34:55 --> 1:35:01
it wouldn't have come down to just the fact that saras covey 2 was improperly isolated and deemed

881
1:35:01 --> 1:35:08
infectious it leads back to the fact that we don't have a good viral reference sample for any pcr

882
1:35:08 --> 1:35:14
test and that was the problem with the pcr lawsuit in the minds of the powers that be whoever they

883
1:35:14 --> 1:35:23
are um and that's why i think reiner fulmick has received such such um outsized punishment for um

884
1:35:23 --> 1:35:29
for nothing for nothing this trumped up political agenda and he's he's basically a political

885
1:35:29 --> 1:35:35
prisoner because he knew where to focus the legal work and i knew where to focus it too and i got

886
1:35:35 --> 1:35:41
no traction on it and reiner fulmick did and i think that's why he's in prison so that's what

887
1:35:41 --> 1:35:46
i wanted to say about that oh one other thing one other really really really important point here

888
1:35:46 --> 1:35:53
and i can't prove this okay but i think everybody here is going to have an inner knowing that this

889
1:35:53 --> 1:35:59
could actually be true does everybody remember theranos and elizabeth holmes she was the i have

890
1:35:59 --> 1:36:08
i have the original article on theranos that i read flying back from europe in october it was it

891
1:36:08 --> 1:36:17
was a financial times article by an investigative journalist in october 2015 alex on theranos saying

892
1:36:17 --> 1:36:22
elizabeth whatever her name was she is a fraud and this whole thing is a fraud anyway keep going

893
1:36:22 --> 1:36:28
theranos is a famous famous wonderful case many people here know all about it right well and think

894
1:36:28 --> 1:36:34
of who was on her board um we had um we had shulzinger and kissinger kissinger and george

895
1:36:34 --> 1:36:39
schultz and she's a stanford dropout she's playing a character she's like the female steve job she

896
1:36:39 --> 1:36:46
wears like the mock black mock turtlenecks and she has this this falsetto baritone voice that she

897
1:36:46 --> 1:36:51
breaks character with sometimes if you've seen documentaries on her i mean it's just bizarre and

898
1:36:51 --> 1:36:56
then she comes up with this black box that's supposed to do blood spot testing so her company

899
1:36:56 --> 1:37:02
was formed in 2003 and i remember when it rolled out she had her offices in palo alto that's where

900
1:37:02 --> 1:37:07
i lived at the time and so i thought well you know my next blood test you know i don't want to get a

901
1:37:07 --> 1:37:12
full blood draw i'm going to go to walgreens and get this blood spot testing and so i went in there

902
1:37:12 --> 1:37:18
and i gave my blood draw orders to the phlebotomist and they said oh you know chick chick chick chick

903
1:37:18 --> 1:37:22
um you're gonna need a full blood draw today i'm like but i wanted just the blood spot testing like

904
1:37:22 --> 1:37:28
oh no um your doctor checked off the cholesterol test so you're gonna need a full blood draw and i

905
1:37:28 --> 1:37:34
said well who gets blood spot testing then because everybody gets ordered a cholesterol test i didn't

906
1:37:34 --> 1:37:38
want the cholesterol test but it was on my thing i already knew that it was bullshit back then but

907
1:37:38 --> 1:37:43
they said oh very few people actually get blood spot testing because there's a lot of exceptions

908
1:37:43 --> 1:37:47
to the blood spot testing where we have to do a full blood draw and i thought well now that's

909
1:37:47 --> 1:37:54
really weird and so the whole thing was blown up by kissinger's grandson tyler who blew the whistle

910
1:37:54 --> 1:38:02
on the whole thing that this was just a fake black box test and this wasn't just for like cbc's and

911
1:38:02 --> 1:38:08
other like blood tests that you would need in 2015 not a lot of people know this but they got

912
1:38:08 --> 1:38:16
theranos got fda approval for a herpes test to start testing for infectious illness so think about

913
1:38:16 --> 1:38:24
this it's a company with kissinger and schultz on the board to manufacture test results and they

914
1:38:24 --> 1:38:30
were getting into infectious disease testing in 2015 and they had plans to develop tests and get

915
1:38:30 --> 1:38:35
them approved by the fda for a lot of other infections at the time that was 2015 that was

916
1:38:35 --> 1:38:41
a very key year in this whole narrative remember 2015 is when vaccination rights were taken away

917
1:38:41 --> 1:38:46
from parents in in in large part in 2015 the personal belief exemption went away and the

918
1:38:46 --> 1:38:52
medical exemption was narrowed 2015 was also the year that we had the dead doctors we have 200

919
1:38:52 --> 1:38:58
doctors who died under very mysterious mysterious circumstances starting with deffrey bradstreet in

920
1:38:58 --> 1:39:03
florida who was found in a river with a shotgun wound to the chest and that was ruled a suicide

921
1:39:04 --> 1:39:09
as if he went out to the river and somehow pulled a shotgun aimed at his own chest to

922
1:39:09 --> 1:39:15
commit suicide in a river and then it turns out that he had records showing that there's a cancer

923
1:39:15 --> 1:39:22
causing substance substance called nagalase being added to vaccines and he's got a bunch of writings

924
1:39:22 --> 1:39:28
about that he was about to publish it there were all sorts of really weird deaths and apparent

925
1:39:28 --> 1:39:35
suicides in 2015 and so 2015 again was also the year that theranos got fda approval for their first

926
1:39:35 --> 1:39:42
infectious illness test for herpes and so it is my theory or hypothesis let's say because it's not

927
1:39:42 --> 1:39:50
totally a theory let's say hypothesis that theranos was the test that the deep state wanted to use

928
1:39:50 --> 1:39:56
to manufacture cases of cobit i don't think they wanted to use the pcr test and as we found out

929
1:39:56 --> 1:39:59
while we were locked down most of us who didn't know a lot about it at the time found out a whole

930
1:39:59 --> 1:40:05
lot more about it and how erroneous a test it is how it's not a diagnostic and it has all these

931
1:40:05 --> 1:40:11
other issues and i don't think they were actually prepared to use the pcr test as the diagnostic in

932
1:40:11 --> 1:40:16
covid i think they were caught with their pants down because tyler the grandson of kissinger blew

933
1:40:16 --> 1:40:23
the whistle on theranos and they removed theranos from the mix as a testing facility so isn't that

934
1:40:23 --> 1:40:32
woman in prison yeah yeah 11 year sentence and the journalist the wall street journal article that i

935
1:40:32 --> 1:40:42
read um was written by john carrie roux c a double r e y r o u and it was he who really helped to make

936
1:40:42 --> 1:40:49
sure that the whistle was blue up blue after kissinger's grandson did it um and so it's a it's

937
1:40:49 --> 1:40:55
an amazing story and so thanks for the reminder alex and by the way there's been no pushback

938
1:40:55 --> 1:41:00
against kissinger and schultz and i think william sign there's another heavy duty board member that

939
1:41:00 --> 1:41:08
elizabeth holmes is her name h o l m e s who got uh what an extraordinary board she got as a as a

940
1:41:08 --> 1:41:13
dropout although as we know alex there's a real benefit in not continuing with university being

941
1:41:13 --> 1:41:19
a dropout is a useful thing to do even though you know both got masters as well all right you've got

942
1:41:19 --> 1:41:25
two minutes left ron you've got two minutes to ask alex her last question before we'll continue

943
1:41:25 --> 1:41:33
without alex as well um was an expert on this so he uh when he first appeared on this channel

944
1:41:33 --> 1:41:40
he told the story i don't remember whether he had inside knowledge but he knew the story and he knew

945
1:41:40 --> 1:41:46
how to tell the story as well alex kreiner do you know him um i missed i missed the name what name

946
1:41:47 --> 1:41:52
alex kreiner he's from croatia but he lives in monaco no i don't know who he is all right

947
1:41:53 --> 1:41:59
well if you want to know about elizabeth holmes and uh tyrannus he's someone you should speak to

948
1:42:00 --> 1:42:04
okay but but actually it's not just books been there's books been written on it netflix

949
1:42:04 --> 1:42:10
documentaries down on it ron quickly here before we lose alex quickly i'm just that this test that

950
1:42:10 --> 1:42:16
she was promoting there obviously the way you practice medicine now according to these

951
1:42:16 --> 1:42:24
bureaucrats is to do tests on people without taking a history without the without the patient

952
1:42:24 --> 1:42:30
even meeting a medical doctor it's just a big fraud the whole thing highly efficient

953
1:42:31 --> 1:42:36
well it yeah don't interact with the patient an ai doctor can come in and take do the tests and

954
1:42:36 --> 1:42:42
yeah and then you just prescribe based on the tests and the tests are fraudulent and and shouldn't

955
1:42:42 --> 1:42:47
be done because you don't go looking for trouble like that without okay steven quick

956
1:42:49 --> 1:42:54
no i need to make that point so charles and we don't need to hear ron ahead of me when it comes

957
1:42:54 --> 1:43:01
to medicine but anyway go ahead ron i just want to say on page one or four of my mother's truth book

958
1:43:01 --> 1:43:07
i talk about uh tyrannus i was the public information officer who who fielded the public

959
1:43:07 --> 1:43:17
record act request from wall street journal john cario that was wow catalyst that caused cario

960
1:43:17 --> 1:43:23
to write his book and also for 60 minutes australia to do their piece and i remember

961
1:43:24 --> 1:43:30
gathering about more than 500 pages of documents on my cubicle desk pulling all this together so

962
1:43:30 --> 1:43:36
it's kind of interesting that we've come this full full circle anyway i i talk about it in my

963
1:43:36 --> 1:43:44
mother truth book on page 104 beautiful wow ron way to go you were very ahead of the curve ron

964
1:43:44 --> 1:43:50
well i didn't know what i was doing at that time but you know yeah now you do well thank you

965
1:43:50 --> 1:43:55
everybody for having me back um it's always a pleasure for these deep discussions i i love

966
1:43:55 --> 1:44:00
all the insightful questions and the discussion i love the questions from steven and charles and

967
1:44:00 --> 1:44:05
others and i just i love being with medical doctors for covet ethics you have a great show here

968
1:44:07 --> 1:44:13
thank you alex great to have you congratulations on your work and anyone please subscribe to free

969
1:44:13 --> 1:44:19
now foundation it's on the website i'm a subscriber have been for some time and keep up to speed with

970
1:44:19 --> 1:44:24
alex and any suggestions that you have get them through to her alex get off to your next meeting

971
1:44:24 --> 1:44:29
we will can we will see if we can continue without you okay i'm sure you can alex your homework is

972
1:44:30 --> 1:44:36
look into rico with tom renz and uh kerry mullis you need to do some investigating

973
1:44:36 --> 1:44:42
in the town where he died allegedly i will follow up on that with you steven thank you so very much

974
1:44:42 --> 1:44:46
i think that's going to be a really powerful combo if we can get it going and you could actually do a

975
1:44:46 --> 1:44:53
rico case around the pcr test because i think you might be right about uh but i knew that rhino was

976
1:44:53 --> 1:44:59
onto that very early and there were other people who are also understanding that so the whole thing

977
1:44:59 --> 1:45:05
about diagnosing covet with a test was ridiculous yeah as i used to tell my wife

978
1:45:08 --> 1:45:14
yeah thank you thank you steven always incredible ideas here and i'm following up on all of them

979
1:45:15 --> 1:45:22
thanks alex you gotta go yes listen go because otherwise you'll be late you got a hard stop

980
1:45:23 --> 1:45:30
is there a question was that sfe yes i just wanted to thank you so much for everything you're doing

981
1:45:30 --> 1:45:38
for us here you are our our fearless beautiful leader and courageous beyond words i i'm honored

982
1:45:38 --> 1:45:45
to know you and grateful you're here also i wanted to mention eric copolino did a whole

983
1:45:46 --> 1:45:52
deep dive into the fact that the cdc knew in 2007 that the pcr test should never be used

984
1:45:53 --> 1:45:59
on its own because of the false whooping cough thing that went through this hospital where they

985
1:45:59 --> 1:46:05
found they were all bacteria all bacteria caused whooping cough but they had called it something

986
1:46:05 --> 1:46:13
else so bottom line is cdc had that written back in 2007 or 2008 that it should never be used solely

987
1:46:13 --> 1:46:21
for diagnosis so this was known many years before this happened and eric copolino has that data he's

988
1:46:21 --> 1:46:28
been on here before and i can get it to you if you need it so you've got layer on layer of fraud

989
1:46:29 --> 1:46:36
alex take your pick right you and tom renz together i think um good move mountains i agree yeah and

990
1:46:36 --> 1:46:41
that's the point of that the tower of blocks because it's layer upon layer of fraud and every

991
1:46:41 --> 1:46:46
block is dependent on all the dependencies below it so the lower you can play on that legally you

992
1:46:46 --> 1:46:52
can wipe out this whole problem from ever occurring again absolutely okay love you guys

993
1:46:52 --> 1:46:57
see you soon actually the way they misled the public by saying that the that the loss of taste

994
1:46:57 --> 1:47:03
and loss of smell was unique to covid when it wasn't clearly no because i remember getting a

995
1:47:03 --> 1:47:12
cold and i lost my sense of taste and smell exactly everybody forgot that so much fraud okay i got i

996
1:47:12 --> 1:47:17
gotta go and thank you bye everybody bye alex thank you bye