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All right, let's get this show on the road. Everybody welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID

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Ethics International. This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost during the darkest days

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of the COVID scam responses with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom

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and health. And today we honor Rashid Butar's passing and we think about him and we might

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have a conversation about him in due course. Stephen Frost has stood up against government

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and power over the years and has been a whistleblower and activist. His medical specialty is radiology.

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I'm Charles Covets, the moderator of this group. I'm Australasia's passion provocateur

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and my jacket is red because red is the color of passion. I practiced law for 20 years before

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changing career 30 years ago. And over the last 12 years, I've helped parents and lawyers

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to strategize remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice. I'm also

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the CEO of an industrial hemp company and industrial hemp will be a crucial tool in

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our war for freedom. We comprise lots of professions, including doctors, lawyers, homeopaths, journalists,

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scientists, filmmakers, professors, peacemakers and troublemakers. And we're from all around

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the world. If this is your first time here, welcome and feel free to introduce yourself

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in the chat and where you're from. If you publish a newsletter or a podcast or you have

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doing it because it makes it easy for us to find you. And remember that we have a variable

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population live so that the links in the chat to your podcast or newsletter are important

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every time. Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War Three and that there

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are various battle lines as part of this war. Some of us believe we're in a continuation

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of World War Two. Most of us understand the development of science and that the science

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is never settled. The meeting runs for two and a half hours after which for those with

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the time, Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting. Tom puts the links into the chat

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if you are able to join. We listen to Bobbi Anne Cox, our guest presenter, for as long

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as she wants to speak. And then we have Q&A. Stephen Frost, by long established tradition,

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asks the first questions. There's no censorship. It's a free speech environment with appropriate

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moderating. Free speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human freedoms.

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If you're offended by anything, be offended. We're genuinely not interested. We reject

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the offense industry that requires nobody to say anything that may offend another. We

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come with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear. Fear is the opposite of love. Fear

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squashes you. Love, on the other hand, expands you. If you have a solution or a product or

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links or resources that will help people, put the details into the chat as well. If

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you have any people you want to add to the invitation list, email me or put them in the

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chat or DM me privately. The meeting is recorded and is uploaded onto the Rumble channel. Now

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before I welcome Bobbi Anne Cox, the one thing I want to add is this is a free speech environment.

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I had a comment from someone last week that somebody was or a particular profession was

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attacked in the chat that the practice of a particular thing is bullshit. Now,

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someone's allowed to believe that. And the fact that someone says that a particular profession

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who might be on this call is bullshit, just let it go. That's what free speech is about.

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That's not an attack on a person that says this profession is bullshit. We've had the comment

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made that virology is a non-existent science. That is not a personal attack. Anyone who attacks

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people personally, I'll give them a warning and I'll remove them from the meeting. But if you

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express a point of view, that's what it means to have free speech. Okay, so it's not a per- if it's

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a personal attack, we won't, Stephen and I won't stand for it, but you're allowed to express views.

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That's what it's about. So please understand that important distinction. And if someone says

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that a particular profession is bullshit, it's not my job to stand to speak and defend a particular

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profession. So come on, we come from love, not fear. Don't worry about what anybody says about

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a particular profession. So, and that particularly applies to lawyers, Bobbie Anne, doesn't it?

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Well, I've got millions of jokes. I mean, I mean, what do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50?

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Your honor. You know, and why do they bury lawyers 12 feet under? Because deep down, lawyers are okay.

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So, you know, we've got more jokes about lawyers than any other profession. So hello.

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Okay, and now welcome to Bobbie Anne Flower-Cox officially, but Bobbie Anne Cox for our purposes,

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wonderful New York lawyer who's spoken to us before. And we thank you again,

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Bobbie Anne, for giving us your time. And thank you, Stephen Frost, again, for creating this group

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and for organizing Bobbie Anne. Bobbie Anne, over to you and you can share your screen if you wish

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at any time. Great. Thank you so much. Thank you, Charles. Thank you, Stephen. It's great to be here

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again. So I'm not sure if everybody on today's call was on the call when I spoke last year.

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Certainly not. No. Okay. So basically, what I've been working on for the past year and almost a

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year and a half is this lawsuit that I brought against the governor of New York State, Kathy

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Hogle and her Department of Health. In New York State, we have a quarantine law, which we've had

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for 70 years. And it is basically, you know, pretty, pretty well full of due process protections,

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you know, in order to quarantine someone against their will, the law says that you need to,

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you know, prove that they're sick with whatever the communicable disease is that you think they

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have. And then there's, you know, an investigation that's had, they have the right to an attorney,

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they have the right to a hearing in front of a judge. And if it's proven that that person is not

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just sick with the infected or the communicable disease, but also is comporting themselves in a

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manner that is dangerous to others, so they're not being careful to try to not spread their germs,

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then the judge could issue them an order of isolation or quarantine in a hospital where

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they would, you know, get proper treatment or whatever. But our governor decided that

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she was going to make a regulation through her Department of Health. And forget all that law

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stuff with all the due process stuff, she was just going to say the Department of Health here in New

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York State could pick and choose which New Yorkers they could issue orders of isolation or quarantine

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to. And then they didn't have to prove you were sick, they didn't have to prove you were exposed

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to a communicable disease. There was no time restraints, so they could have locked you up or

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locked you down for days or weeks or months. They got to decide where you were locked up. So they

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could have forced you to stay in your home, or they could have removed you from your home and put you

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into a facility or a detention center of their choosing. They could have used local law enforcement

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to remove you from your home and put you where they wanted you to go. And once you were there,

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there was no way for you to get out of isolation or quarantine. So what I mean by that is last year

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we were having oral arguments in front of the judge, and the judge asked the attorney general,

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you know, let's say you take a family and let's say you put them into isolation or quarantine in

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a facility. Let's say you put them in a hospital, let's say. How do they get out once they're in

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there? And the attorney general kind of thought about it for a minute and said, well, you know,

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I guess they could hire a lawyer and they could sue us. So there was no due process protections

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in this regulation that the governor and her Department of Health made, but they made it in

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the name of COVID, you know, COVID emergency. And so last year, I actually found out about this reg,

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the end of 2021. And so I immediately started drafting a lawsuit against the governor and the

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Department of Health because it was completely unconstitutional on multiple levels. Number one,

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it had no due process protections. And in the United States, our constitution and in New York

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state, our state constitution both say that you have to have due process protections in not just

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your laws, but in your regulations as well. And it also conflicted with existing New York state law,

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as I had mentioned previously, we already have a law which is full of due process protections

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so that the government doesn't abuse its power against its citizens. And this regulation

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completely conflicted with our existing law. It conflicted with our constitution and it was a

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complete power grab by the executive branch of government, which is where the governor and her

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departments sit. They're the executive branch. They're only supposed to enforce laws as per our

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constitution. They're not supposed to make laws. And they're certainly not supposed to make rules

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that conflict with our laws. And then our legislature is our elected representatives,

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our elected senators, our elected representatives in the assembly here in New York state.

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They're the ones that are supposed to make the laws. And we elect them every two years here in

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New York state. So, you know, what I did was crafted a lawsuit against the governor and the

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Department of Health and my plaintiffs are a group of New York state legislators. And our argument has

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been the governor has overstepped, has crossed over into the lawmaking realm, has exceeded her

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powers that are established for her branch of government. And as a result, she has injured

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my plaintiffs, which are Senator George Borrello, Assemblyman Chris Tague, Assemblyman Mike Lawler.

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So, this group of New York state legislators, lawmakers, are having their power taken from them

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by the governor and her Department of Health. It's unconstitutional and that was our argument and

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we won. The court struck this down last summer. They said it was unconstitutional, breach of

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separation of powers. They declared it null, void, unenforceable. They prohibited the promulgation

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of the regulation or enforcement of the regulation going forward. So, that was in July. And then we

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had elections in November here in New York state and both our governor and our attorney general

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were running for office. And of course, they didn't want the public to know what they were up to as

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far as quarantines, forced quarantines and quarantine facilities. So, they didn't actually

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appeal the case until after the elections, which they both won in November. So, we still have the

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same governor and the same attorney general as we did last year. And so, they waited until early

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this year to file the appeal. So, now we're in appeal. We're now at the appellate division,

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New York state Supreme Court appellate division. And now I've got to fight them all over again

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and convince this court, this new court, the appellate court, that the judge below made the

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right decision and that this is indeed an unconstitutional regulation and should not be

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reinstated. So, the importance of this case is really striking because, yes, it's about quarantines

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and that is obviously a very severe deprivation of your rights, right? If the government can come

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and lock you up or lock you down whenever they want with no proof that you're sick,

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no proof that you did anything wrong for however long they want, that is totalitarianism, right?

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That is, you can call it authoritarianism, you can call it, you know, scary as hell, whatever you want

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to call it, it's not happening in this state, it's not happening in this country, not on my watch.

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So, that is one element of this fight that I've got going on. But the other element is that

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if the court now reverses that lower court decision and says, no, the governor and her

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department of health, they can make this reg, this is okay, no problem, they've got the power to do

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this, that's going to now completely abolish separation of powers because what it's going

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to do is it's going to elevate that branch of government, it's going to say the executive

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branch where the governor sits and her agencies is now going to be more powerful than the

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legislature, which is our elected representatives to every two years we can elect them, you know,

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vote them in and out if we don't like what they're doing in the legislature, it's going to elevate

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the executive branch above the legislative because the legislature could make whatever laws they want

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and then the executive could come along and say, well, you know what, I don't really like that law,

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so I'm going to make a regulation or a rule, whatever you want to call it, that conflicts with

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that law and overrides that law and look, there's nothing you can do about it because

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the court's already said I've got the power to do this, right? So, the floodgates will indeed open

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and you will see agencies around New York State start making regs, rules, whatever you want to

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call them, that conflict with the constitution and conflict with existing New York State law

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and we're going to have complete totalitarian rule in this state. Why does that matter to the other

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states? Why does that matter to the rest of the world? Because what happens in New York spreads

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always, whether it's clothing fashion or whether it's, you know, these crazy laws that they come

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up with in our state legislature, it spreads. When one state sees that New York can get away with

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something, they do it too. Well, New York can do it. Well, the courts in New York said that the

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governor can do that, so, I mean, our governor can do it too, right? And then it starts to spread and

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then it becomes a trend and then when other countries see, oh yeah, the U.S. can have forced

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isolation and quarantine facilities with no due process, why can't we do that, right? So, it becomes

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like this accepted craziness and we have to nip it in the bud. Well, we did nip it in the bud,

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but now they're appealing. So, the case is, unfortunately, not being covered by mainstream

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media. All last year, I mean, I literally spent the entire year working on this case.

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I started drafting at the end of 2021. I got my plaintiffs in early 2022. We filed in April of 22.

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We had a decision in July of 22 and then the remaining months of the year were spent trying

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to spread the word about this case so that people would know before they went to the polls in November

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what Governor Hockel and Letitia James, our attorney general, were up to.

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So, mainstream media wouldn't pick it up. I mean, there was maybe one article in the New York Post

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about this, but no New York Times, no Wall Street Journal, none of the television networks would

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pick it up. Now, alternative media did. They were great. I can't count how many podcasts I was

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on and local radio stations and such. I've written many articles about it. I have a substack

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and I write once a week an article and push it out through substack, but there's no coverage from

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mainstream media. Now that we are fighting in the appellate court, so now they appealed, the governor

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and the attorney general appealed, Fox News wrote one story on it and I think I'm going on OAN in

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like a week or two or something, but this needs to hit mainstream media. I mean, this is what they do.

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They keep these important cases and issues out of the public eye because, honestly, in my opinion,

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and I've spoken to many people about this case, I mean, I literally travel across the state. I

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crisscross New York state almost on a daily basis, a weekly basis, giving speeches in various counties

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and cities all over the state. And sometimes I even go to other states to talk about it, Connecticut,

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Georgia, Florida, whatever, but it's really fascinating that so many people have not even

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heard about this case, let alone the fact that we won, let alone the fact that now the governor

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and attorney general are appealing to try and get this crazy power back. And it's so dangerous

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because whether you're Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, independent, nothing,

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I don't care what you are, it doesn't really matter. We are not talking about something that's

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conservative or liberal or progressive. We're talking about basic human rights.

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You cannot lock people up just because you're the government without any proof that they've done

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anything wrong for however long you want. It blows my mind. As an attorney, it blows my mind.

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As a citizen of our world, it blows my mind because no government should have this power.

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So this is where we are with this. I'm working very closely with New York State legislators,

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the ones of course that are on my lawsuit. There was also another group of New York State

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legislators last year who are not plaintiffs in the case, but who wrote an amicus brief to support

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the case. And that was authored by Assemblyman Andy Goodell, who's also an attorney and signed

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onto by Assemblyman Will Barkley, who's the Republican head of the New York State Assembly,

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and then another assemblyman named Joe Giglio. And now this time around, the New Civil Liberties

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Alliance said that they are going to be writing an amicus brief to support our case. And then

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possibly also the Government Justice Center based in Albany where the state government sits in New

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York, they might write an amicus brief as well. So I'm hoping my goal now is to try and get PR on

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this because we can't let stuff like this fly under the radar anymore. We need to wake more

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people up. And if this doesn't wake people up, then nothing's going to wake people up

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because this is a direct attack on your literally your individual autonomy, your ability to get up

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and walk out of your house and go to work or take your kids to school or do whatever you want to do.

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This would because this reg says that you can't you don't the government doesn't even need to

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prove that you're sick and they can hold you wherever they want for however long they want.

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I mean, that is the antithesis of freedom. And it is so dangerous. We can't allow them to have this

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power. If the populace doesn't like something, generally speaking, it fails in government,

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if there's a proposed law, that's really controversial. And enough people hear about

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it and speak up about it or write letters or send emails, or do rallies or whatever their way of

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protesting is. Typically that bill that proposed legislation will die because it will not gain the

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support because the politicians their number one thing that they want to do is get reelected.

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So if they think that there's something a topic that is so controversial that it could cost them

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their job, they absolutely will back off. The problem is reaching enough people to get them

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to speak out to write letters, send emails, make phone calls, make appointments and go actually

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sit down with your elected representatives and have them hear your voice. Here in New York,

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in December, this past December, it was like two or three days before Christmas. And the New York

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state legislature called a session. So in New York, our legislature, the senators and assembly

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members only work from January to June. It's a part time job. It's six months. It's not even

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six months. It's five and a half months. And so they finished the beginning of June. They called

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them back to Albany, back into session the very end of December, this past December, five months

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ago, because, oh, it's such an emergency. We have to come back into session two days before Christmas.

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We have to pass this bill into law. Okay. What was the bill? Okay. The bill was to give themselves

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a 30% pay raise so that they could now make $142,000 a year plus benefits plus per diems.

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But that was even the worst part. They also put a provision in this new law that said that

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anyone who serves in the New York state legislature can no longer have an outside job

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if that outside job earns them more than $35,000 a year. So they've basically barred the members of

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the New York state legislature or anybody that wants to run for that office from having a job

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the other six months out of the year when you're not actually in Albany being a legislator.

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So what have they done? They've overnight created career politicians. So to serve in the New York

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state assembly or the New York state Senate, you have to really at this point only be a legislator.

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You can only rely on that as your source of income and that is your profession. So now what happens

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are you going to listen to the people and what the people want or are you going to listen to

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your special interest lobby groups that are paying your campaign bills? Which one are you going to be

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beholden to? You're not going to listen to what the people want. You're going to listen to what

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your special interest lobby who pays you however many hundreds of thousands of dollars to stay in

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office. What they want, that's what you're going to do. What your party tells you to do, that's

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what you're going to do because if you don't, well your party will put somebody up against you in

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the next election. Your party won't support you. They won't give you any financial contributions

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to your campaign when it comes to I'm for reelection. So you've now made it that every

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person in the New York state legislature is beholden to their party and is beholden to their

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special interest lobby groups. You know in New York state we have a super majority of Democrats

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in our entire government structure. So our state senate super majority Democrats,

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our state assembly super majority Democrats, our governor Democrat, our attorney general Democrat.

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So what does that mean? That means that you are getting literally one side rule, one party rule.

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There's no discourse going on in New York state. There's no discussion. There's no other side of

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the equation because the Democrats have such a massive power grab right now. They don't even

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need the governors. Even if the governor had lost and let's say the Republican won last year,

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it wouldn't matter because with a super majority in both houses that means if they want to pass a

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bill into law and the governor says no and vetoes it, they would have the power to override the

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veto. So it is so dangerous and we've had one party rule, Democrats in charge, nothing,

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the Republicans have no voice in this government in New York state right now. We've had this for

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five years in New York and this is what we're seeing. We are seeing regulations like this

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running amok. We are seeing things like there was a bill that just passed last week out of the

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assembly health committee. Now it's going to the assembly floor which says that children of any age

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can consent to get STD vaccines without parental knowledge, without parental consent. So a nine

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year old could go to a medical facility and ask for an STD shot. Okay and they're not allowed to

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tell the parents. Okay so first of all that's a violation of our federal law but I won't get

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too much in the weeds there. There's another, I mean it's secondly, it's a huge attack on

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parental rights. There's another bill being proposed right now in our state legislature

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which has a bill in both houses which says that every school in New York state would have to teach

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comprehensive sexual education to all the children starting in kindergarten.

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Okay they want to teach five-year-olds about sex education. So what we're seeing here is

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a complete attack on pretty much all of our rights that we have. They are attacking parental rights.

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There are other bills that are pushing to become law that are fierce attacks on parental rights.

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I'm just giving you those two and they're attacking our very freedoms, our very essence of

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what it means to be free. Oh we can lock you up into quarantine facilities anytime we want for no

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reason. These are things that are the very cornerstone, the very basis of our society

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and not just our society. When I say our society I don't just mean in the United States, I mean

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everywhere. Everywhere on this globe parents should have the right to raise their children

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as they deem fit. You are the ones that know your children. You made them. You raised them.

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You get to decide how they learn about sex education and when they learn about sex education

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you get to decide what drugs go into their body or not. I mean just think about the

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take away the legal aspect of this argument for a moment. Think about the medical aspect for

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of this for a moment. If a child is allowed of any age is allowed to go get STD shots without

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their parents knowledge what if that child is allergic to one of the ingredients in that shot

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then what happens? The kid gets the shot, the kid goes home and now all of a sudden they start

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going into some sort of you know allergic reaction. They're having a shock, they can't

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breathe whatever. The parent doesn't even know that they just got a shock. The parent has no

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idea what just happened because the parent wasn't there and wasn't told when the child received an

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injection. How are the paramedics going to save that child? They don't know what the child just

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got injected with either or that the child even got injected. I mean it's absolutely it's insanity.

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It's absolute insanity. This is what's going on in New York and you know there is there's a ground

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swell. We do have the grassroots that are rising up to fight against this and obviously we have

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the legal side of it but we just we need it to be more widespread. We need the word to be

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pushed out further and faster and you know we're playing whack-a-mole here. You know an emergency

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pops up like oh they're trying to push this bill through oh my gosh are you kidding? You know and

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then it's like you try and put that fire out and then while you're trying to put that fire out or

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as soon as you get that fire out there's another one over here that pops up right and we can't just

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keep playing defense. We can't just keep bringing lawsuits to try and quash these things or push

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them back in their lane. Lawsuits take time. Lawsuits take money. Lawsuits take energy

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and as you fight it out in the system it can take years to get a resolution a final resolution on a

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lawsuit and meanwhile you've got all these people who are suffering you know probably children but

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people that are suffering being injured I mean it's absolute insanity so I'm happy to take some

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questions if people have specific questions on either the regulation the isolation and quarantine

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regulation or some of these insane bills that are coming up here in New York State.

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If anybody has questions on that I'm happy to address. Very good very good Bobby Anne thank

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you so much thank you for your fight. I've got a couple of comments before Stephen asks his

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questions to start. The first is how are you managing to fund these cases because this is a

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magnificent contribution you have made to the fight for freedom and you know I know how much

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well you said you've been working most of the year on this matter so how is that funding happening

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and then secondly what's your view on Ryan Oformick's comment you know that and it's

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probably well that the court system is hopelessly hopelessly corrupted so the court system hopelessly

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and as a lawyer I say majority corrupted but not totally corrupted either two. How are you funding

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this all this work and your overall view of the U.S. court system and the corruption of judges?

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Yeah so as for the funding this quarantine lawsuit I am self-funding. I've been doing it pro bono for

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almost a year and a half now and it has taken up probably 90 percent of my of my practice. I was a

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property tax certiorari attorney for like 20 years before I started doing this work and

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so my practice has now shifted into this this realm of constitutional law you know civil rights

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and I basically donations are how I can keep doing the work. People you know I have a donate

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button on my website coxlawyers.com and I have you know some some people that are basically very

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very concerned about this issue and concerned about the fight and you know they're helping to

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fund the case or just my work in general not just the case because I am constantly giving speeches

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in various parts of New York so it's definitely not great in the sense that you know the left

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is so well funded they can do you know pretty much anything at the on the drop of a dime but

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the other to the other part of your of your question with regards to the courts

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so it really depends what court you are in. In New York generally speaking it is tough to win

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these constitutional battles because New York New York City is a very blue place and so are you know

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the other big cities in New York State Buffalo and Utica and you know you've got Albany which

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is where our state capital is and such but really New York City is the issue because we have nine

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million people in New York City and so if you look at our if you look at a map of the for example

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the past this past November when we had a gubernatorial election if you look at the map

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most of New York State is red meaning most of New York State would vote Republican or

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Conservative but New York City doesn't and because New York City doesn't and they have such a large

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population it's kind of like whatever New York City votes wins and so it's the same thing with

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judges here in New York in the state courts because we have two different court systems

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in the United States we have the state courts and then we have the federal courts.

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My case was brought this quarantine case was brought in the state courts in New York

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and that area where we brought the case which is up in western New York which is where my lead

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plaintiff Senator George Borello that's his district that's where he lives and represents

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we got a judge New York State Supreme Court judge who honors the constitution understands

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the constitution and upheld the constitution in this decision so it really does depend and

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there have been others one of my colleagues brought a lawsuit in another region of New York

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State also in state court and her case was to try to strike down the governor's rule or regulation

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that said that all the health care workers in New York State had to get the COVID shot

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in order to continue working in health care which resulted in like 35,000 health care workers losing

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their jobs in New York State and so a colleague of mine brought this lawsuit and again state

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court and she won of course again the governor is appealing and bringing it to the next appellate

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division to try and get it overturned so it really depends what court you're in what state you're in

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and whether your judges are appointed or your judges are elected so here in New York State

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our trial level judges which is the first level that you start at they are elected so they will

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reflect really the people who live in that community when you get to the higher court levels

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like our appellate division courts and our highest court in New York State which is called

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the New York State Court of Appeals those are appointed those judges are appointed by the

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governors so it's again really super important things that people don't think about but when

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you're electing a governor you're not just electing that person for that role that governor gets to

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appoint judges it's when a vacancy comes up they can appoint a judge so anyway it depends on where

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you are. Bobby Anne that's that's that's most helpful and when I use the word corrupt judges

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I think it's interchangeable with politicized judges but perhaps not I should have I should say

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judges who don't rely on the rule of law but who follow politics that's a more

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accurate description of what I mean and certainly you know some judges are corrupted but I'm not

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saying that that's really not where I'm headed and it's a problem here in Australia and you

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explained it well as to what's happening in New York. So we've got a string of questions now

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Bobby Anne I don't know where Stephen is that's okay we will go with Rose first Rose Roloff.

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Hey first off thanks so much for all your work it's very impressive I wanted to know if you're

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working with other attorneys with other states because we've been fighting the exact same thing

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in Florida and they basically gutted SB 222 and replaced it with a vanilla basically paper 252

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so that oh well for COVID you don't have to but now it's wide open for any other pandemic that

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they may choose to declare so we've got the exact same problem in Florida that people aren't aware

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of and I think it's important especially if DeSantis declares he wants to run for 2024 and

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again people don't look at the specifics of the law so for example they said oh we're going to

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protect doctors licenses but I'm like but what about their credentials they're ripping these

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doctors credentials out so it's like oh well we'll protect your license but you still can't practice

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because we removed all your credentials. Yeah yeah I do have a network of attorneys

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now I've been doing you know what is it called fight for freedom I don't know you know since

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since March of 2020 when when our governor then it was Andrew Cuomo first said you know

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everybody locked down two weeks to flatten the curve you know the hair on the back of my neck

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stood up and I was like oh no no no first of all you don't have the power to do this and second

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of all it's not going to just be two weeks and in New York the lockdowns lasted for months

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and so it's it's become over the past three years that yes I know and have become friends with

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attorneys in other states who are also standing up and fighting against the tyranny and the gross

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government overreach in their states and yes I am aware of what goes on in Florida I have actually

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a couple of pretty good attorney friends in Florida fighting the fight so it's we do now

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we have started to have a nationwide network of attorneys we did the first ever they called it the

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COVID litigation conference in Atlanta Georgia that was held last month or actually was held in

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March the end of March and I went down I was one of the speakers at that conference and actually

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had ran a civil rights panel with a couple other attorneys so the idea was to draw other attorneys

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in to educate them on what we've all been fighting and doing the past three years and try to get more

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lawyers involved in picking up the torch and saving the constitution so yeah so there we are

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working on a network definitely. Okay thanks Bobby Anne we've got Stephen back so Stephen

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as I said traditionally goes first questions but not quite first and then after Stephen we'll go

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to Glenn Stephen over to you. Yeah I was here all the time but I hadn't got my camera on and I don't

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know why I'm in a different position from normal on the screen that is so I just wanted to ask you

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Bobby Anne so compared with other states in America and compared with other countries

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from your knowledge how bad do you think it was in New York state I've also heard that California

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was pretty bad but how bad was New York state because as you say New York state would be a

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big target for these globalists because what you can push through in New York state you can push

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through everywhere in the world well that's how they look at it probably so um and so I just wonder

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how bad in your view you don't if you don't know that's fine but was it in New York state compared

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with other states in America and how bad do you think it was compared with say France, Spain, UK

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from what you've heard? Are you referring specifically to quarantine? The measures in

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inverted commas you know the lockdowns the masks whether the masks were forced and there was no

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escape from that? Kind of everything okay yes um I'm not so familiar on an international level

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but certainly within the United States because of my my network across many states in the nation

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um New York was was one of the worst if not the worst um we had schools closed for uh I think

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some of the public schools were closed for almost two years um with children doing you know remote

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learning uh and the the teachers it has now come out that the teachers unions didn't want to go back

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to work um and so they played a big part in keeping the schools closed um the children are

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experiencing tremendous this this is nationwide in the U.S. but particularly in New York the children

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are experiencing huge deficits in learning um the younger kids who were supposed to be learning how

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to read at that time many of them are now delayed and and having problems with reading and understanding

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and and staying at grade level so um what they've done is um you know forget forget the psychological

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and everything with the masks and the social distancing just closing the schools what they've

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done has devastated uh New York children and you know the hardest hit are the ones that can't afford

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to pull their kids out of the public schools and put them into the parochial schools or the charter

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school you know the the private schools you know those are the ones that are going to suffer the

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most so what it's caused is a further striation and a further separation between um you know

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the class up here and the class down here uh which is which is what they wanted right they

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they wanted to have they want to destroy the middle class yes destroy the middle class and

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the other agenda i can see emerging is that they want to destroy nation states by reducing uh the

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populations of the world's um states uh the the confidence that the people have in their politicians

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and you can see that everywhere certainly in the united kingdom there is no respect for politicians

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in the united kingdom they don't deserve the respect but we better be careful because we

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actually may get in the states that politicians have no authority whatsoever and they can't keep

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the peace so and then the global authorities will come in with their immigrant uh armies possibly i

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don't know so um what i wanted to ask you asked you were talking about whack-a-mole you feel like

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you've got to do it because there's another fire over there's another fire over there there's no

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fire engine so don't you think the answer is that we need to teach people don't understand about

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totalitarianism they seem to they they think it's all um how should i say uh theoretical when in

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fact it's on our doorstep or we've got it already arguably um and we need to so people need to

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understand about totalitarianism and such a big word isn't it so we need to think of other words

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like tyranny but that doesn't really encapsulate what we understand by totalitarianism so i wonder

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how do we get so we need to educate people how do we do that and the other question i wanted to ask

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you was have you thought so about totalitarianism for example couldn't you form a group and i could

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help you new york state against big brother new york state against totalitarianism too big a

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name maybe in a title for a group but but new york state against big brother and then

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you know so on the the model we've got for this group we could do exactly the same in new york

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state or in america because i think the battle is going to be won in america what so what are

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your thoughts on that yes um so there is um there are many grassroots groups that have

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some that were here before 2020 but some that have come into existence since 2020 um actually

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one of them which i i failed to mention earlier when i was talking about my quarantine lawsuit

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one of them is one of the plaintiffs in my quarantine lawsuit um it's an organization i'm

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close with and work with um often uniting new york state it's uniting nys.com and it's a group of

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i mean they have thousands of members across the state of new york and um work specifically to try

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to alert the public to what's going on bad bills coming through albany or being proposed in albany

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um obviously the quarantine lawsuit and keeping everybody up to date on that um we we need more

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uh but bobby it wouldn't you wouldn't have to be raising the alarm about specific fires

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if people understood totalitarianism so because so this is the problem right

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yeah so we need to get to the situation where people are triggered by certain events happening

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in their neighborhood or in their state or in their country and they understand that it's

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totalitarianism at the moment they don't understand this i've got it in my own family it's crazy yes

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and the problem this is the issue that i've been dealing with for three years right i mean they

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said lockdown two weeks to flatten the curve you know save your neighbors save your grandmother

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and immediately i was like guys okay they can't do this this is this is not how it works here's how

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it works you know and the problem which is exactly what you're saying which is what i said before

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is that people don't know what's going on they don't know what's going on number one number two

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if they heard what was going on they need to like you're saying they need to recognize that that is

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an illegal act it is a violation of their right it is totalitarianism i call it tyranny

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uh and which is the definition of tyranny is when somebody in power takes uh or brings gives

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themselves an authority that they they don't have they don't have a right to right that's the

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definition of tyranny the problem is you have to educate the public to what their rights are

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if they know what their rights are when they see something coming at them and attacking their

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rights then they'll automatically step up and say wait a minute you can't do that sorry you're

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stepping on my rights they don't know their rights because particularly here in the u.s and i don't

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know about in your country for example but particularly here in the u.s they stop teaching

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civics classes in the schools so they don't teach the constitution they should be teaching the

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constitution starting in kindergarten not sex education they should be talking about the

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constitution and your rights starting in kindergarten and going every year straight up through 12th

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grade and then into the universities and did they teach that when you were at school bovyan

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they they did they did have civics classes they were way more prevalent than they are today

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today they're there i mean there are some schools that don't even say the pledge of allegiance

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it's it's horrific and they're doing it on purpose the education system has been

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rewired really particularly particularly in states like new york you know perhaps not in

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every state in the nation but um the danger is that yeah i mean i just wrote a sub stack

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last weekend um you know and the theme of the sub stack was he who controls the children controls

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the future and it's but it's more than that bovyan because actually what they're doing

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what they want to do in addition to so breaking the middle class breaking nation states but they

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want to break social bonds very importantly and social bonds is part of the is uh what the

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universe 25 experiment is about breaking social bonds so that would include breaking

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uh relationships within a family but also breaking relationships with friends uh breaking uh

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relationships with your country with your culture breaking social bonds that's what happened to the

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mice in the universe 25 experiment he had 150 i think it was mice or 170 mice uh left out of 10

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thousand uh he bred them up you know they had loads of space initially then they got overpopulated

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and then the social bonds were broken he ended up with 150 mice came down to 150 they all died

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they started to die he couldn't understand it and then he finally worked it out i think i'm right in

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saying this and he said that the 150 or 170 remaining would all die because their social

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social bonds had been broken and that's what they're doing they're in my opinion

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they are trying to break the social bond this is unbelievable evil by people who

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uh yeah guilty of hubris arrogance and hubris i don't know what they think

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absolutely the the attack is um on it's coming from multiple you know i was

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walking into a um uh thursday night i gave a speech up in duchess county about an hour and a half from

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my house and i was walking into the event and i was speaking with a woman and she said you know

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um the group that i'm a part of is focusing on this and then you know my friend is in this other

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group and they're focusing on this and then you know you're focusing on the quarantines and blah

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and i said yeah i said they are coming at us from all aspects of our society and our world

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um and it definitely can feel overwhelming um but if if there are groups that are focusing

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on certain pinpointed goals um then we can and it's and it's you know a coordination between groups

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we can definitely overcome it um the the the will of people for their freedom and for their rights i

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think is much greater than um the the totalitarian or the tyrannical regimes that we're seeing so

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it's just reaching those people and i think you and i are saying the same thing steven

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it's reaching those people and letting them know that yeah you know what i'm sorry but you know the

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governor of new york can't tell you to wear a mask on your face you know she can't tell you to wear

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you know a pin in your hair you know she can't tell you to wear you know your hat you know

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tilted to the right or left you know that's not a power that the governor has you know so

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people need to understand their rights um and then understand okay sorry you can't do this

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that's tyranny and i'm not going to listen to you right so problem is bobby and i don't think a lot

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of people uh maybe not in this group either um they don't understand the word tyranny because

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they don't need to understand it in their view and they don't need to understand the word

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totalitarianism either because that happens in the soviet union it doesn't happen in the united

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states of america doesn't happen in england united sorry united kingdom um and so they think they

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don't need to know about it and if you uh try and get them to to think about it they don't want to

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do it because it's too uncomfortable and they say oh that won't happen here in the uk for example

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yeah people don't it's it's actually um it's fascinating that when i talk to people about

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my quarantine case sometimes the reaction i get is um i i are you sure like i'm not i don't know

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about that i say wait a minute am i sure that i just spent the last year and a half of my life

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working on this yeah i'm pretty sure would you like to see the judge's decision you know and then

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i have so many people come up to me and say oh you know i was talking about your case the other day

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and people were looking at me like i had three heads and they were you know and a lot of times

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the reaction is oh they would never actually use it oh yes they would my response to that is well

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if the government didn't actually want to use their forced isolation and quarantine regulation

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then why did they fight me so hard last year at the trial court level and why are they now fighting

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me so hard on an appeal correct now that they've lost and a judge has said you can't do that get

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back in your lane you don't have this power why are they now fighting the attorney general has

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hundreds of attorneys across new york state and all of our tax dollars to fight me on this and

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and and they are why are they doing that if they don't really want to use the power i mean that's

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just such an ignorant statement right but people don't want to believe that their government would

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do something like that to them but i'm here to tell you that they will sure and all you have to

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say to them is why do you think that that the united states of america and new york state in

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particularly you could say um lock down their schools for did you say two years some places

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they were closed for two years oh my goodness that's terrible for the children and kids some

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schools were doing um you know alternate like you know you could go into school this day for half a

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day but then you had to do remote the rest of the day or you could go in every other day

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or like this was your week to go in but then but then that was the other kids week to go in i mean

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it was that's horrendous there was no there was no learning going on so the arbitrary rules and

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they were arbitrary there's no way that they can be related to health those arbitrary rules must

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have been very very confusing for many children even in stable families so anyway i'll give

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someone else a chance yes very good this very good discussion and the education issue i just saw

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i just got a note that dan astin gregory is talking on education on a world premiere today on

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some channel but dan astin gregory does some good stuff all right glenn

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hi i'm glad to speak with you bobby ann um i'm going to start out from uh what charles said

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and uh relative to uh our uh is there in fact a potential that there's a large number of completely

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corrupt judges so if if i look at what you described uh it seems like a so simple a case of a power that

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was being grabbed from the legislature and completely against both federal and state

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constitutions so how is it a rational judge that was following any kind of principle

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and rule of law would ever uh rule against you other than total corruption

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yeah right well he didn't he ruled in my favor so okay all right well i again uh charles

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quantified it as a well uh perhaps it's not just corruption i'm saying it is corruption so let's

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now walk you through the the situation you have and potentially a more efficient use of your

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ability you you were taking this on on behalf of the legislative branch is that not correct

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yes they represent a group of new york state legislators so under rational conditions they

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would have been funding the effort is that not correct no no it's a pro bono case i did the case

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no no i what i'm saying is you're doing it on their behalf if if they were in fact defending

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themselves because that's what they're doing they're supposed to be defending their own body

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uh they would have uh either concluded that gee this is our role to defend our legislative body

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uh we will go get gather the funding for that or we'll contribute our time so many of them are in

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fact lawyers why couldn't they have been doing all of the background work for you and and just

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having you file yeah they do spend um time with the pr side of this case doing interviews um and

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giving statements and press conferences and uh you know issuing press releases and stuff so

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they are working at it in a different way um but yeah this has been a a huge um the the lack of

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mainstream media coverage on this has been a huge blow to um to the really to the whole idea of

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i get that i'll get to that i'll get to that part of it but let me continue walking through this so

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in general uh the legislative branch should have been defending itself and that should have been

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across the board and i'm sure you misunderstood glenn so i think that bobby is having a parallel

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conversation but so i have understood that um bobby ann was representing a few legislators

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not the whole legislative body is that what is that correct bobby ann yeah excuse me steven

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this is my my question steven i don't know why you're interrupting me

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did i interrupt you no no you didn't know but i'm just i just see parallel conversations going on

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it's my question why don't you let me complete it

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thank you so so again if if this were an honest body meaning the legislative branch and it was

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concerned around the duties that are signed to it according to its constitution shouldn't even all

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of the democrats been in favor of funding the action against this step by an agency

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but the democrats the democrats didn't even talk to me about it democrats won't even talk i'm asking

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you that from a context of of a legitimate mechanism of government of how governments are

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supposed to work where there's duties and in this case where they uh where an agency was

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explicitly trying to take away their duty you know it's like the old days when remember when

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legislative branches were concerned about free speech and and and defended that under all

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conditions i'm i'm simply saying isn't this isn't this a case where in a normal environment

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the the every every member of that legislature should have been defending the legislatures

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and and that you never had to get involved at all yeah well one would think but that's not how it

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works particularly when there's a super majority of uh democrats in our state senate and our state

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assembly it's it's not going to happen a a a super majority shouldn't relate to people ignoring

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rules ignoring constitutions and ignoring uh rule of law so uh in this particular case i as a sort

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of an alternative uh might it have been more useful uh if if you if you laid it back to

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the legislature to say gee you guys need to put the effort into this uh to continue and and then

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allowed you uh bobby and to to to work more on the on the awareness side of the of the avenue

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to say uh that more of your time could have been spent in in preparing the public and getting the

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public engaged in it uh i mean particularly i mean a lot of people i think have followed you

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uh as a strong woman and you know looking out for for basic parts of of law and and and that

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it addresses the family and that women have a greater purpose around defending the family and

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and might that might have been been more useful if you were able to allocate your time

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purely toward the the path of informing the public and getting them engaged in the same way as as

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has happened with the uh bud light that at certain point the public finally got into the game and

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said no more this hasn't got anything to do with our values and and how would you bud light and all

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of budweiser yeah well i i that's exactly what i've been spending my time on is is trying to

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raise awareness and that's why i do what i do and uh okay and have been doing so uh yeah that's

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that's exactly what's been going on and that's what needs to continue going on but there needs

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to be uh some mainstream media getting involved in this because correct correct it's going to

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take a lot longer and there's going to be a lot more pain involved uh with you know more lawsuits

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and more time wasted and you know more bad bills and all this other stuff let me suggest a way that

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maybe we can accelerate this and short-circuit it so uh i'm i'm leading the humanity coalition

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as a variety of people in this uh group that are that are working with me uh both across canada

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and australia um we have we have drafted a petition to take to congress it's titled campaign petitions

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congress to restore democracy the subtitle is eliminate the billionaire control of the party

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caucus uh in that the party caucus which becomes a tyranny mechanism that completely eliminates any

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notion of one one person one vote has completely turned upside down both our uh our cat our national

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constitution as well as virtually every state constitution and and therefore uh going forward

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and eliminating that control and and petitioning uh the individual uh legislators to say it's time

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for you to stop uh taking any uh direction from party caucuses because they have nothing to do

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with their their duty or with their constitution and and so that's that's an item we've we've

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drafted and we're about ready to go out with and uh is that something that both you think you could

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support in a strenuous way and and and help engage others to also uh support yeah i mean i

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have to again is yeah i'd have to read it through i i just the the reaching the masses on um any of

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these topics is is a huge challenge of that everybody that is has been working for the past

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three years to you know try to retain our rights and uphold the constitution no matter what country

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you're in um getting to the mainstream media and getting these crucial messages out is the big

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problem so it doesn't really matter what the topic is whether it's a petition that you want to do

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whether it's quarantines whether it's masking whether it's six feet social distancing whether

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it's lockdowns whether you know any of this stuff it's always goes back to the same problem of

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well it's not not exactly the same in in that uh a party caucus mechanism is is always been counter

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to the constitution unfortunately it's been allowed to occur at some point it was probably

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viewed as advisory it's long since gone completely away from advisory it's an edict it's an edict

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from a single leader at the top of of a party and and as such completely violates every notion

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of one person one vote it overrides it's a dictator mechanism that overrides every other part of how a

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legislative body operates so i'm i'm simply saying uh isn't this actually true from an operational

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viewpoint and therefore we should be pressing forward to say all party caucuses of any type at

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at either a federal level or a state level should be viewed as outlawed

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uh i i don't know that's that's a political question that's that's not a legal question so

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no that's not true it is a legal question it applies it's not a conversation i'm going to

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get into because i feel like it's political i i don't i don't do politics this is about

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human rights this is not about politics yes charles yeah look the glenn if bobby n says

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politically doesn't answer it doesn't have to answer it please ask questions rather than having

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speeches all right then as a simple question would would you support a public move uh to

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encourage the all congressmen let's let's add a federal level uh to uh ignore any position of

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their party caucus and to only vote according to their oath according to the constitution

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well i i think politicians no matter who you are what your name is or what level you are should

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uphold the constitution i that i think i've been pretty clear in my message the constitution is

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the only way following the constitution is the only way that we're we're going to get out of

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this mess but um yeah that's that's the problem is that people don't uphold the constitution

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and we're seeing that particularly in new york state we're seeing it at the federal level there

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are plenty of agency overreaches going on in the united states at the federal level the cdc issuing

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an eviction moratorium that got struck down the united states supreme court it's completely

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unconstitutional wrong branch of government same thing with osha issuing a reg that said that all

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employers in the united states of america had to have that had 100 or more employees had to have

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their employees get the covid shot otherwise they had to wear a mask and test weekly at work

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completely unconstitutional scotus struck that down wrong branch of government same thing with

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the epa they made a regulation that to control the emissions air emissions out of a certain

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industry scotus struck that down wrong branch of government complete overreach by the executive

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branch so i can go on and on with examples of how the executive branch whether it's the federal

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level or the state level is out of control doing what they want and the attitude is again i wrote

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a substack on this the attitude is catch me if you can i'm gonna do what i want i know i don't

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have this power i know i'm not allowed to do this but i'm gonna do it anyway and come get me if you

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can come file a lawsuit against me see what the court says if the court strikes it down and says

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i can't do it okay then maybe i'll stop doing it but if the court doesn't then i'm just gonna keep

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this power for myself that i gave to myself unconstitutionally and i'm just gonna keep going

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so that attitude of catch me if you can is has to stop the way that that stops is by waking enough

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people up so that those people will change the leadership at the top you have to vote these

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people out we have to get people who honor the constitution and know what the constitution means

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and says to run for office and help them get elected it's a very simple equation the the

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people at the top are wreaking havoc on our rights replace them with people that won't

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wreak havoc on our rights so the problem in that very simple equation is getting enough people

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to know what's going on and like steven said understand what it means when they're looking

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at tyranny when they're looking at a totalitarian rule that's being shoved in their face if they

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don't know that it's tyrannical then they're not going to step up and say stop doing it i object

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so the the problem the root of the problem is reaching the people and that means that breaking

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through the censorship there's terrible censorship going on at all levels yeah

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30 seconds 30 seconds just so so my only comment would be that i believe the people can be reached

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i could i believe they can be reached far quicker than than an election cycle that we can do that

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here and going forward and and myself and many others believe that large-scale group prayer is

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one path to awaken the locals and to get them engaged and get them engaged very soon and around

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that all of the representatives in congress should should follow the people's intent not the power

647
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brokers thank you thank you thank you glenn so bobby and we now have jack and jack wrote a thesis

648
1:12:19 --> 1:12:24
in the 60s on comedy but he's not a comedian but he's close to a comedian hello jack

649
1:12:25 --> 1:12:33
hi yeah well i'm writing a book right now where i do bring in humor and certainly it's one of the

650
1:12:33 --> 1:12:40
things we've seen it's a rebellion that's going on all over the country of the united states

651
1:12:41 --> 1:12:48
and much of it is expressed initially through humor because humor is a mechanism for expressing

652
1:12:48 --> 1:12:53
aggression and getting applause for it simultaneously

653
1:12:57 --> 1:13:03
you know bobby and where i live in oregon exactly pretty much a parallel across the

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other side of the country from you and of course we're seeing the same identical phenomena here

655
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in particular the abrogation and disregard of parental rights

656
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and the sexualization of children

657
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and the lack of learning they did some achievement testing here just recently and they found that

658
1:13:30 --> 1:13:36
kids have lost two years of school they haven't learned a damn thing through all of the you know

659
1:13:37 --> 1:13:42
electronic education that supposedly supports the planning human beings because it's natural

660
1:13:43 --> 1:13:50
for young people to learn from other human beings from their elders and so that that's good news

661
1:13:50 --> 1:13:56
that we're not if we're already elderly like you and i then then we can learn from

662
1:13:57 --> 1:14:05
from youtube and so forth but we're not we don't as children now you already brought up something

663
1:14:05 --> 1:14:11
that i was going to ask about and that is it was the it was the fifth circuit

664
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in new orleans which reversed the decision of osha regarding mandatory vaccination

665
1:14:24 --> 1:14:29
for employees of companies of over 100 employees i think that's what you were referring to

666
1:14:30 --> 1:14:37
uh but that was a fifth circuit decision and it was very well written and it was upheld by the

667
1:14:37 --> 1:14:48
supreme court and so that's an extremely important precedent for all of us and all the agencies

668
1:14:48 --> 1:14:57
are all legal challenges to agencies that are violating the separation of powers and that has

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1:14:57 --> 1:15:06
been the the basic legal mechanism for everything that's gone on violation of powers and that fifth

670
1:15:06 --> 1:15:12
circuit opinion was was brilliantly written i thought i really was impressed with it but that's

671
1:15:12 --> 1:15:19
what they focused on the separation of powers and they didn't go into the weeds regarding the

672
1:15:19 --> 1:15:25
virtues or vices involved in the and the vaccination risks and the vaccination

673
1:15:27 --> 1:15:35
illegalities it was separation of powers period so maybe you could talk a little bit about that

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1:15:35 --> 1:15:41
oh i would also add that we're seeing all the same things here this is not only a national

675
1:15:42 --> 1:15:52
and it's about an international scheme and it's uh it's been orchestrated from very high places

676
1:15:52 --> 1:15:58
and obviously the who as has been mentioned has been controlled by the gates foundation

677
1:15:59 --> 1:16:05
and then there's some very wealthy psychopaths in charge and that's one thing that people aren't

678
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recognizing that uh our country uh and much of the world is run by psychopaths because uh

679
1:16:17 --> 1:16:22
psychopaths represent about four percent of the population that doesn't seem like very much

680
1:16:23 --> 1:16:28
i i've met quite a few in my life and i've been burned by a few of them even though i should know

681
1:16:28 --> 1:16:38
better and they're really the only uh uh clinical subdivision that really seeks power

682
1:16:40 --> 1:16:44
uh i don't think the rest of us are are interested in power i'm certainly not i've

683
1:16:44 --> 1:16:50
been the principal investigator on a whole series of federal research projects and the part of it i

684
1:16:50 --> 1:16:56
don't like is having to manage people i don't like telling other people what to do or trying

685
1:16:56 --> 1:17:03
to control their behavior but that's what psychopaths live off of and uh i'm in my 80s now

686
1:17:03 --> 1:17:10
and i can think of only two presidents in my lifetime who i do not think were psychopaths

687
1:17:10 --> 1:17:18
john kennedy was one and he died trying to fight the psychopaths and i think probably jimmy carter

688
1:17:18 --> 1:17:24
wasn't either jimmy carter was a little naive but i don't think he was a psychopath everyone else

689
1:17:24 --> 1:17:33
every one of them clinton was a horrible is a horrible psychopath obama was a horrible psychopath

690
1:17:33 --> 1:17:40
horrible psychopath these the the democratic psychopaths are sweet talkers they're very

691
1:17:40 --> 1:17:46
articulate they're very clever uh they were attractive they they look good they can shoot

692
1:17:46 --> 1:17:54
baskets and all that but obama is yeah it's very interesting he went to he took his first two years

693
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as an undergraduate at occidental college in southern california which is a traditional

694
1:17:59 --> 1:18:04
rival of the college i attended famona but then he transferred to columbia

695
1:18:05 --> 1:18:14
and guess what at columbia he studied under zabigniew brzezinski author of you know the

696
1:18:14 --> 1:18:21
grand chessboard and that's what's going on right now with this with this war in ukraine it's all

697
1:18:21 --> 1:18:29
about who controls the chessboard and we are losing russia and china are winning and they will win

698
1:18:29 --> 1:18:35
but that's kind of an aside but all the people who are making these decisions and controlling

699
1:18:35 --> 1:18:41
things are psychopaths because they have a distinct advantage over the rest of us and faride first

700
1:18:41 --> 1:18:47
recognized that 100 years ago or more and he recognized it in terms of people who could lie

701
1:18:47 --> 1:18:55
without conscience what a wonderful competitive advantage and all you have to do is overcome

702
1:18:56 --> 1:19:04
external obstacles and you have no internal obstacles whatsoever do anything you want to do

703
1:19:06 --> 1:19:12
that's why the smartest ones and the richest ones rise to positions of influence and power

704
1:19:12 --> 1:19:19
in corporations uh and in politics so that's what we're up against we're not like up against

705
1:19:19 --> 1:19:28
people with a normal conscience and but we do outnumber them about 19 to 1 and that's the

706
1:19:28 --> 1:19:36
that's what we have to take advantage of and the law i think is the the surest way of doing that

707
1:19:39 --> 1:19:43
so i think you're you're on the right field on the right side i'm a psychologist so i don't have

708
1:19:44 --> 1:19:47
that kind of power maybe it was a mistake of me to go into that field

709
1:19:49 --> 1:19:59
but that was that that fifth circuit ruling was about osha and they told osha you do not have the

710
1:19:59 --> 1:20:10
power to do that yes so that ruling um which was january of 2022 so it was just over a year ago

711
1:20:10 --> 1:20:20
um that was a very clear that decision was a very clear explanation of separation of powers

712
1:20:20 --> 1:20:29
and why osha which was or which is an agency in the executive branch under the president

713
1:20:30 --> 1:20:38
doesn't have the power to make a rule like that and our um my quarantine case is the same

714
1:20:39 --> 1:20:45
as i had mentioned earlier is the same premise of separation of powers the constitution lays out

715
1:20:45 --> 1:20:51
three co-equal branches of government judicial which is the court and the judges legislative

716
1:20:51 --> 1:20:56
which is the people we elect our representatives the senators and the assembly members and then

717
1:20:56 --> 1:21:01
the executive which is at the state level the governor and and whoever they have appointed in

718
1:21:01 --> 1:21:06
there to run their agencies and then at the federal level it's the president and whoever he

719
1:21:06 --> 1:21:16
appoints to run his agencies so the the executive branch um and their agencies will do something

720
1:21:16 --> 1:21:21
that they want to do um what we've seen over the last three years with covet is they do it in the

721
1:21:21 --> 1:21:25
name of covet right we're trying to save you we're trying to keep you safe we're trying to

722
1:21:25 --> 1:21:31
but what they're really doing is taking a power that they don't have and it's it's a negative

723
1:21:31 --> 1:21:40
effect on the citizens so um you know the three co-equal branches of government are key because

724
1:21:40 --> 1:21:47
they're supposed to work with checks and balances on each other so that not one rises above the

725
1:21:47 --> 1:21:52
others they're supposed to all stay co-equal they just have their own separate domains that

726
1:21:52 --> 1:21:57
they're supposed to operate in when one of them crosses over and takes a power from the other one

727
1:21:57 --> 1:22:04
we have a big problem and that's the the idea of the doctrine of separation of powers stay in your

728
1:22:04 --> 1:22:11
own lane everybody do your own job and we'll all be fine but that's not what's happening and i was

729
1:22:11 --> 1:22:18
very pleased to see scotish strike that down that osha reg i was very pleased to see uh scotish

730
1:22:18 --> 1:22:25
strike down the cdc regulation which was cdc is the center for disease control for anybody that's

731
1:22:25 --> 1:22:34
not familiar with that uh agency and they had issued um a reg that said that landlords across

732
1:22:34 --> 1:22:39
the country were not allowed to evict their tenants for non-payment of rent because somehow

733
1:22:39 --> 1:22:48
that would spread coven okay so they did that almost immediately that was that was almost if

734
1:22:48 --> 1:22:57
it wasn't march 2020 it was maybe april or may and when they did that that is the moment i knew

735
1:22:57 --> 1:23:07
that this was not about a virus because my my world was real estate law right it was property

736
1:23:07 --> 1:23:15
tax certiorari and real estate law and so i worked on a daily basis for property owners

737
1:23:15 --> 1:23:24
and when they issued that regulation my phone blew up my email blew up and i had people calling

738
1:23:24 --> 1:23:30
me texting me writing me saying wait a minute hold on they're telling my tenants they don't have to

739
1:23:30 --> 1:23:37
pay rent and they can't get evicted and how am i supposed to pay my bills like i use that rent

740
1:23:37 --> 1:23:42
money to go and pay my property taxes on the property the maintenance on the property my

741
1:23:42 --> 1:23:48
mortgage on the property my insurance on the property so it was a direct attack on the middle

742
1:23:48 --> 1:23:54
class that's what it was because the majority of landlords in our country are mom and pop landlords

743
1:23:54 --> 1:24:01
they're regular people who just saved up bought a property that's a multi-family a lot of them live

744
1:24:01 --> 1:24:07
in one part of the property and then rent out the other part or parts of the property and that's how

745
1:24:07 --> 1:24:11
they make a living that's how they pay their bills that's how they put food on their table

746
1:24:11 --> 1:24:19
and clod their children so by telling landlords you can't kick your tenants out if they don't pay

747
1:24:19 --> 1:24:24
the rent you're telling the landlords you're not going to get any money coming in but you have to

748
1:24:24 --> 1:24:32
keep paying for your property right and now what what should have the government done the government

749
1:24:32 --> 1:24:38
should have if they wanted to help people stay in their rental properties and not get kicked out

750
1:24:38 --> 1:24:44
because they thought it would spread covid they should have just issued rent vouchers to the

751
1:24:44 --> 1:24:51
landlords on behalf of the people the tenants the people that were renting the places out because

752
1:24:51 --> 1:24:58
then you're not giving the money to the tenants and saying to the tenants here's some money yeah

753
1:24:58 --> 1:25:03
go pay your rent no you should have just given it to the landlords and said here this is for your

754
1:25:03 --> 1:25:11
tenant so that you are at least not bleeding out money and your tenant can stay in their property

755
1:25:11 --> 1:25:16
you know it was just it was very obvious what was going on so it was it was a complete attack on the

756
1:25:16 --> 1:25:23
middle class and landlords across the nation were going belly up they either had to they either had

757
1:25:23 --> 1:25:29
to sell their properties for for less than they were worth to get out from under them because the

758
1:25:29 --> 1:25:32
bills were piling up and they couldn't keep the bills up because the tenants weren't paying the

759
1:25:32 --> 1:25:38
rent because the government told them they didn't have to or they were just you know going belly up

760
1:25:38 --> 1:25:46
foreclosure or bankruptcy you know and block rock was standing by to gobble up those properties

761
1:25:46 --> 1:25:53
yes the big corporations yes the big corporations definitely could swoop in and buy these properties

762
1:25:53 --> 1:25:59
for less than what they were worth and block rack was offering huge amounts of money even more than

763
1:25:59 --> 1:26:06
they're worth and jack and bobby anna i think that a lot of people don't understand why the middle

764
1:26:06 --> 1:26:10
class is so important so if you haven't got a middle class you've got the rich and the poor

765
1:26:10 --> 1:26:15
so you've got the oppressed you've got the oppressed and you've got the oppressor but you

766
1:26:15 --> 1:26:22
have no disinterested party if you like in in society and the middle class is the common factor

767
1:26:22 --> 1:26:29
in democracies and it's only happened in the western world arguably in

768
1:26:31 --> 1:26:36
world when would you say it started i don't know after the second world war probably the 50s and

769
1:26:36 --> 1:26:44
60s you know during the obama administration that the middle class became less than 50 percent of

770
1:26:44 --> 1:26:50
americans yeah so we need to we need to educate the public about the the importance of the middle

771
1:26:50 --> 1:26:58
class as well and any attack on it should be perceived as a return to tyranny because we have

772
1:26:59 --> 1:27:07
human beings have lived under tyranny most of the time and i'm talking about kind of yeah very good

773
1:27:07 --> 1:27:11
all right we've got lots of questions jack thank you for that and i just wonder if you want to note

774
1:27:11 --> 1:27:20
what bobby an said a few 10 minutes ago and it's anna de buisere has also been saying it to us

775
1:27:21 --> 1:27:26
and and we haven't seen anybody really doing much of it and that is to educate people about their

776
1:27:26 --> 1:27:33
rights and it's an interesting thought i bobby anna noted i mean moderating there's many steven

777
1:27:33 --> 1:27:38
no one has really you know we've talked about it but it's interesting we've been talking about

778
1:27:38 --> 1:27:45
jab injuries but and we and i urge us to think about gosh how do we educate people about

779
1:27:46 --> 1:27:50
our rights because people won't bobby anna you're totally right people don't know about the

780
1:27:50 --> 1:27:56
constitution or our rights they they will believe what government tells them so that's a call out

781
1:27:56 --> 1:28:01
to everybody for all of us to think about that jack thank you for your comments well we don't

782
1:28:01 --> 1:28:06
know what to fight for and obviously yeah if you're in a fight and you don't know what to fight for

783
1:28:06 --> 1:28:10
if you don't know what the rules if you don't know the rules are you yeah if you don't know

784
1:28:10 --> 1:28:16
what the rules are correct very good um now bobby and we've got mark next on question mark

785
1:28:16 --> 1:28:25
presented to us two weeks ago on 5g and mark is globally renowned on his 5g knowledge so mark over

786
1:28:25 --> 1:28:35
to you it's been really good to hear what you have to say bobby um court cases obviously they're

787
1:28:36 --> 1:28:42
with the corruption etc the um you know within the judiciary however

788
1:28:43 --> 1:28:52
i've had some very very interesting results positive results in relation to the 5g narrative

789
1:28:52 --> 1:29:00
and the reason for that when the judiciary are presented with the you know the contaminated

790
1:29:00 --> 1:29:05
vaccine when they're presented with the interconnection with the 5g network

791
1:29:06 --> 1:29:13
when they're presented with their demise their extermination it's a very powerful tool i mean

792
1:29:13 --> 1:29:17
you talk about new york new york's a very interesting part of the world i call it

793
1:29:19 --> 1:29:24
let's say ground zero and i call it ground zero because i've never seen as much

794
1:29:25 --> 1:29:32
5g transmitters or extermination equipment ever if you were going to pull an electromagnetic

795
1:29:32 --> 1:29:38
radiation pulse weapon new york definitely would be the place for that and i'm pretty sure that's

796
1:29:38 --> 1:29:45
what they're planning but the threat of death you see we have a lot of corruption in the um

797
1:29:46 --> 1:29:50
in the judiciary unfortunately you know a lot of these people do is that tool for lots of different

798
1:29:50 --> 1:30:03
reasons monetary etc etc political however if we play the uh let's say their own self-interest

799
1:30:03 --> 1:30:11
nobody wants to die and this this equipment will kill and most certainly is killing people

800
1:30:11 --> 1:30:16
significant numbers across the world we see a significant number of people who are now dying

801
1:30:16 --> 1:30:21
in their beds at night i'm pretty sure it's part of the target acquisition weapon system that's

802
1:30:21 --> 1:30:28
been installed by bill gates with his azure 5g lockheed uh network where we can actually

803
1:30:28 --> 1:30:34
surgically target acquire and cause a tonic seizures from people who unfortunately have

804
1:30:34 --> 1:30:41
been vaccinated but also people who had taken the pcr test one of the things i'm pretty concerned

805
1:30:41 --> 1:30:47
about there's a lot of there's a lot of um let's say information about the negative effects of

806
1:30:47 --> 1:30:54
vaccines what we seem to miss is the uh the negative effects of the pcr test and the loaded

807
1:30:54 --> 1:31:03
weaponry the uh the graphite ferrous oxide so basically the carbon nanotube uh payloads that

808
1:31:03 --> 1:31:11
were actually put into the hybrid gel that was actually squirted into people's nasal passages

809
1:31:11 --> 1:31:17
so where they had a bud it was it was the uh basically a small injecting type uh piece of

810
1:31:17 --> 1:31:24
equipment the reason why they had to get it in very very close into the brain where these

811
1:31:24 --> 1:31:31
nanoparticulates these carbon nanotubes can then pass across the blood brain barrier and they can

812
1:31:31 --> 1:31:37
be activated and i think what was quite interesting in the science that we have is a 450 nanometers

813
1:31:37 --> 1:31:45
frequency which unbelievably is 666 terahertz so we've got a lot of people walking around who

814
1:31:45 --> 1:31:50
unfortunately didn't take the shot as obviously they were quite concerned about the uh you know

815
1:31:50 --> 1:31:56
the experimentation and the speed of how it actually came about but a lot of people actually

816
1:31:56 --> 1:32:04
did have the um pcr test and what i'm you know from a from a legal perspective is it not the

817
1:32:04 --> 1:32:11
case that what we need to be bringing into these court cases is the terror of what's really going

818
1:32:11 --> 1:32:17
on to these to the judiciary because you know i'll meet these judiciary i've met quite a few

819
1:32:17 --> 1:32:24
after like said i've had quite a number of successes in the courts the panic when they

820
1:32:24 --> 1:32:31
realize that the equipment that's being installed will kill them then that then leaves them with

821
1:32:31 --> 1:32:39
two choices either go along with the cult members do as you're told you know or for

822
1:32:39 --> 1:32:46
monetary gain or whatever and die it's quite a simple choice equipments there they've installed

823
1:32:46 --> 1:32:51
new york's absolutely horrific by the way i would think it's probably one of the most dangerous

824
1:32:51 --> 1:32:57
places in the world to be living at the minute uh due to the densification of the 5g network

825
1:32:57 --> 1:33:03
and not only that we also have the new york um you know authorities talking about

826
1:33:04 --> 1:33:11
the temperature increase so we've got this climate emergency temperature increase however

827
1:33:11 --> 1:33:18
we've got these same bodies installing multiple transmitters that cause microwave radiation as

828
1:33:18 --> 1:33:24
everybody knows who has a microwave oven cause temperature increase now if let's see i increase

829
1:33:24 --> 1:33:31
the temperature of one and a half to two degrees in a cityscape obviously in the summer that's

830
1:33:31 --> 1:33:37
going to be catastrophic because i'm adding that to the summer temperature so where we're going

831
1:33:37 --> 1:33:45
to start seeing a lot of people die from this due to the added burden of microwave radiation on top

832
1:33:45 --> 1:33:51
of natural occurring temperature increase so it's not really a complicated argument i have and i'm

833
1:33:51 --> 1:33:57
pretty sure that any people in the judiciary they understand the fact that they're going to die

834
1:33:57 --> 1:34:02
because this is going to kill them it's not always about it the people who are behind this

835
1:34:03 --> 1:34:10
what i call cult members are planning mass murder and unfortunately those judiciary who

836
1:34:10 --> 1:34:16
for some foolish reason want to go along with the cult agenda it's going to kill them

837
1:34:17 --> 1:34:24
and i think this possibly could be a very very powerful tool in any cold case i've just generated

838
1:34:24 --> 1:34:31
a quite an interesting case in birmingham where birmingham city council fitted 107 000 transmitters

839
1:34:31 --> 1:34:37
to street lights each one's 100 milliwatts and causing a thermal temperature increase in a body

840
1:34:37 --> 1:34:45
at one so much so that the maximum exposure to one milliwatt is actually six minutes so they've got

841
1:34:45 --> 1:34:51
they've got a hundred and seven thousand hundred milliwatt so 100 times the eknup guideline each

842
1:34:51 --> 1:34:57
one has a 10 mile footprint so i cause this massive increase in microwave radiation temperature across

843
1:34:57 --> 1:35:04
the cityscape at the same time birmingham city council call a climate emergency because they

844
1:35:04 --> 1:35:10
expect to see a 1.5 to 2 degrees centigrade and they've actually installed the equipment

845
1:35:10 --> 1:35:15
that not only causes a temperature increase but causes the coronavirus type symptoms

846
1:35:15 --> 1:35:21
so this is another issue that has to be addressed because like i said the threat of death

847
1:35:22 --> 1:35:27
and destruction to individuals within any of these organizations that's going to panic them

848
1:35:27 --> 1:35:33
you know if this evidence was actually taken into a court then i'm pretty sure they're going to be

849
1:35:33 --> 1:35:39
pretty upset i mean no judge is going to be pretty on side of the cult if he realizes being injected

850
1:35:39 --> 1:35:45
with a nanoparticulate contaminant that i can track them and i can actually kill them with it

851
1:35:46 --> 1:35:54
you know these atonic seizures that we see in beds across the you know for as far as i'm concerned

852
1:35:54 --> 1:35:59
this is all part of the weapon system that's being deployed and i think it's a very interesting way to

853
1:35:59 --> 1:36:06
tackle these cult members because unfortunately you know we're banging our heads off the brick wall

854
1:36:06 --> 1:36:10
it's a bit like the child services programs where i'll see people being you know children

855
1:36:10 --> 1:36:18
being taken from families etc when this thing turns around and the judiciary realize that they

856
1:36:18 --> 1:36:26
are the target for this weapon that could possibly change their opinion on what's happening

857
1:36:27 --> 1:36:30
bobby and great question because i've been saying for some time

858
1:36:31 --> 1:36:37
judges will wake up when their grandchildren start dying suddenly and bobby and so what mark is

859
1:36:37 --> 1:36:45
saying is that new york state is probably the place in the world not just state in america but the

860
1:36:45 --> 1:36:53
place in the world where you're where you're most at danger from these 5g towers and considering

861
1:36:53 --> 1:36:59
that the pcr test you know not just the injections but the pcr test and if you remember they were

862
1:36:59 --> 1:37:05
testing children all the while in schools i was thinking about this why are they putting that

863
1:37:05 --> 1:37:13
damned swab so far up just beneath the crib reform plate um just beneath the brain if you like

864
1:37:13 --> 1:37:19
why are they doing that and mark came along two weeks ago and for the first time i hadn't heard

865
1:37:19 --> 1:37:27
anybody talking about this anywhere in the world mark uh enlightened me and us uh but actually

866
1:37:27 --> 1:37:36
these pcr tests were injecting people if you like by by stealth so i was thinking why are they

867
1:37:36 --> 1:37:42
pushing the pcr test so much is it just about diagnosis you know to diagnose as many covet

868
1:37:42 --> 1:37:49
cases possible so they could inject fear into the population and then mark comes along and sure

869
1:37:49 --> 1:37:55
enough there were two reasons it seems that they were injecting sorry yes using the pcr test

870
1:37:56 --> 1:38:05
uh to increase the fear through diagnoses but also to set them up for attack from 5g towers

871
1:38:05 --> 1:38:13
is that right mark have i misrepresented you no no that's correct the uh the the carbon nanotubes

872
1:38:13 --> 1:38:19
that we're seeing the um in hydrogel can be activated using some of the frequencies in the

873
1:38:19 --> 1:38:27
5g network it it it was one of the things you know we had a lot of people who resisted the

874
1:38:27 --> 1:38:33
contaminated vaccine you know it was rushed uh unfortunately there was a lot of people who

875
1:38:33 --> 1:38:40
did take these pcr tests the whole purpose of grilling this bud this cotton bud around

876
1:38:40 --> 1:38:50
there was these small um injectable uh it's like a fiber with the um and it's just squirreled around

877
1:38:50 --> 1:38:58
and pull it out it then injects the uh the contaminants directly into the uh as close

878
1:38:58 --> 1:39:03
as possible to the brain they then pass across into across the blood brain barrier and i know

879
1:39:03 --> 1:39:12
particulates they're injected in there and it allows the ear um a tracking with the um with

880
1:39:12 --> 1:39:18
the 5g network so i can basically see these people but mark why so what is the specific

881
1:39:19 --> 1:39:25
interest for bobby ann you're trying to transmit to her the danger that new york state citizens

882
1:39:25 --> 1:39:31
are in absolutely is in and actually a way of getting out the i think he's quite right mark

883
1:39:32 --> 1:39:38
mark um bobby and we can put you in touch with him i can put you in touch with him but the population

884
1:39:38 --> 1:39:44
of new york need to be warned that they are most at risk of these attacks in the future well actually

885
1:39:44 --> 1:39:50
now as well so um well one of the one of the one of the things i'll talk with me steven obviously

886
1:39:50 --> 1:39:57
i i ended up in court uh where a local authority well the government tried to gag me over the 5g

887
1:39:57 --> 1:40:06
network unfortunately for the uh they said i was a conspiracy theorist i don't mind that label at

888
1:40:06 --> 1:40:11
all not not one piece because i know what a conspiracy is and also know what a theory is

889
1:40:11 --> 1:40:16
so i don't mind that label however i was taking a court and said i was a conspiracy theorist

890
1:40:16 --> 1:40:20
and i was frightening people by stating that this 5g network would kill them

891
1:40:20 --> 1:40:22
um

892
1:40:23 --> 1:40:29
they need to be frightened if it's true and well it's it's exactly well that's exactly what

893
1:40:29 --> 1:40:35
happened we got the court their whole argument was that um um i was frightening people who

894
1:40:35 --> 1:40:40
vulnerable people who would believe what i was actually saying people will believe in it because

895
1:40:40 --> 1:40:45
they will become an ale in the environment where this 5g network had been installed

896
1:40:45 --> 1:40:52
and consequently so as we went through and had lots of witness statements and the judge he then

897
1:40:52 --> 1:41:00
stated the 5g risk must be debated sure it must be he said it must be can i ask you have you been

898
1:41:00 --> 1:41:05
to new york state i haven't been in new york but one of the things i was quite concerned about i

899
1:41:05 --> 1:41:14
came across a document about the the deployment of 5g in new york and also some of the coronavirus

900
1:41:14 --> 1:41:22
type symptoms where there was a chap he was a consultant in a in an icu in new york where he

901
1:41:22 --> 1:41:29
stated that people in the coronavirus pandemic were suffering from uh pulmonary edema or what

902
1:41:29 --> 1:41:35
would be what most people would see is altitude sickness he said it looked as if they'd been

903
1:41:35 --> 1:41:40
thrown out of a plane at 30 000 foot where they had this total flooding in the look when you lose

904
1:41:40 --> 1:41:46
your oxygen supply you'll start to suffer pneumonia you start to flood and along

905
1:41:47 --> 1:41:51
then that's what this guy anyway they sacked him but that was quite interesting because i was

906
1:41:51 --> 1:41:57
following the whole 5g network because i knew 5g is what they're going to kill everybody with

907
1:41:57 --> 1:42:04
you have a plan the globalists have a depopulation plan 5g is the trigger it's the trigger for

908
1:42:04 --> 1:42:10
the activation of some of these pathogens but it's also what causes pneumonia flu type

909
1:42:10 --> 1:42:17
symptoms i said that early in 2016 17 everybody said i was a conspiracy theorist unfortunately

910
1:42:17 --> 1:42:26
all of the science now confirms exactly what i said in those days so it's not that i'm a you

911
1:42:26 --> 1:42:30
know i'm not a clairvoyant i just follow the science and because i've been involved in these

912
1:42:30 --> 1:42:37
weapons programs in in the early you know early years i realized that there was there was an

913
1:42:37 --> 1:42:43
interconnection with people getting flu i mean a lot of the people i work with are dead a lot of

914
1:42:43 --> 1:42:48
people i work with we were dealing with non-ironizing radiation which the scientific community of telus

915
1:42:48 --> 1:42:57
perfectly safe those guys developed cancers and died of leukemia in their 30s our fortunately

916
1:42:57 --> 1:43:02
or something expert well i do know why by the way why i did survive that but there was a lot

917
1:43:02 --> 1:43:08
of people in the work that i did didn't didn't survive so i was always of the mind that non-ironized

918
1:43:08 --> 1:43:13
radiation wasn't this thing that everybody tells you the same it's not enough energy in the photon

919
1:43:13 --> 1:43:20
i mean it's absolutely garbage if i stack photons the same as a laser laser can cut stainless steel

920
1:43:20 --> 1:43:26
but the relevance of this to bobby an is that we're trying to raise the alarm a bit with not

921
1:43:26 --> 1:43:32
just with bobby amber with others but um but the point is that uh of course new york state would as

922
1:43:32 --> 1:43:37
you said as we talked about bobby an it would be a target wouldn't it because you know what happens

923
1:43:37 --> 1:43:43
in new york and london uh to an extent you know is going to be followed around the world so so they

924
1:43:43 --> 1:43:50
would target new york and london and if you remember new in the uk and london they were

925
1:43:50 --> 1:43:56
practicing psychological torture on the populations they were doing it openly with sage the advising

926
1:43:56 --> 1:44:02
uh body to the government and the behavioral insights team otherwise known as the nudge

927
1:44:02 --> 1:44:07
unit and they were practicing psychological torture on the british population uh to a point

928
1:44:07 --> 1:44:15
that people have got stockholm syndrome in the uk in my opinion so the tyranny in uk was not overt

929
1:44:15 --> 1:44:22
like in spain or so france and australia say um but it was the psychological torture i think was

930
1:44:22 --> 1:44:28
actually the worst thing and in new york if you remember they were killing people in the hospitals

931
1:44:29 --> 1:44:35
with protocols so you know and that was the worst place in the world for killing people in hospital

932
1:44:35 --> 1:44:41
as far as i'm aware you know it's difficult to be sure but i think that new york was

933
1:44:41 --> 1:44:47
gen would generally be the place that most people identify where it was worse now we've got and i

934
1:44:47 --> 1:44:52
the 5g bit if it's true what mark is saying mark you need to go to new york state and measure

935
1:44:52 --> 1:44:58
make the measurements there and then publish that's what i would say but quite as much you've got a

936
1:44:58 --> 1:45:05
vote as much chance that the americans let me in the country uh steven i just more certainly wouldn't

937
1:45:05 --> 1:45:11
uh the americans definitely would i'm built like julian assange i'm pretty sure they absolutely

938
1:45:11 --> 1:45:17
would not want me going to new york and measuring the radiation levels anybody in new york and

939
1:45:17 --> 1:45:22
measure those radiation levels i can tell you now they're pretty catastrophic the cause pulling me

940
1:45:22 --> 1:45:28
edema their cause and they're having they're having fully weaponized this is this is what i

941
1:45:28 --> 1:45:34
call soft kill the soft kill element of 5g is basically just blanket coverage where you'll

942
1:45:34 --> 1:45:39
start to see people suffering all sorts of different maladies it's an immune system

943
1:45:39 --> 1:45:45
suppressor but the reason why i wanted to interject here with bobby the fact she's a lawyer in this

944
1:45:45 --> 1:45:53
state these judges given this evidence they will absolutely see i've had many results but the reason

945
1:45:53 --> 1:45:57
why i've had the results is because i've taken the evidence into the court i've got a code code case

946
1:45:57 --> 1:46:05
currently in birmingham in the united kingdom and that code case will show the local authority who

947
1:46:05 --> 1:46:12
called a climate emergency a temperature increase actually they were responsible for the installation

948
1:46:12 --> 1:46:18
of the microwave radiation emitters that caused the climate increase and not only that they're

949
1:46:18 --> 1:46:25
planning to set fire to the city i can burn a city to the ground with his equipment and this is the

950
1:46:25 --> 1:46:30
next one they're going to start seeing burning you're going to start seeing temperature increase

951
1:46:30 --> 1:46:36
and everybody's going to say oh it's climate change and then you can have this climate change

952
1:46:36 --> 1:46:42
emergency further lockdowns we've already seen the secret plans of the british government

953
1:46:43 --> 1:46:51
who are talking about this emergency these net zero 15 minute cities get rid of your car

954
1:46:51 --> 1:46:57
it's all carbon dioxide we know that's absolutely horse shit and they're going to drive the whole

955
1:46:57 --> 1:47:04
narrative because if the the general public do not understand that microwave radiation cause

956
1:47:05 --> 1:47:11
temperature increase in cities yeah very good thank you okay we're going to move stephen we're

957
1:47:11 --> 1:47:17
going to move we've got five hands up and and bobby and i really think mark is onto something

958
1:47:17 --> 1:47:21
here not that he's going to go to new york and not that you have to do this but i think

959
1:47:21 --> 1:47:29
bringing this evidence before the courts with mark's science i think could lead and i'm thinking

960
1:47:29 --> 1:47:34
the same thing for australia mark we've got pre-bandar in australia there are some 5g experts

961
1:47:34 --> 1:47:42
here and this the dangers of this 5g roll out um you know it seems to me the science is certainly

962
1:47:42 --> 1:47:49
on mark's side bobby and so food for thought yes i think i think children's health defense

963
1:47:50 --> 1:47:58
um here in the u.s. had had a 5g lawsuit or something i'm not i'm not quite sure but

964
1:47:58 --> 1:48:03
um yeah that's good mark i'll check mark can you check the children's health defense website

965
1:48:03 --> 1:48:08
or anyone else because they list the cases that they've been running there mary holland spoke to

966
1:48:08 --> 1:48:14
us and by the way she's not she's not currently president sorry she's president of children's

967
1:48:14 --> 1:48:20
health defense but she's now joined bobby kennedy's team so laura bono is now president of

968
1:48:20 --> 1:48:26
children's health defense well chd are a good they're a good group of guys what the what they

969
1:48:26 --> 1:48:33
don't understand is 5g is a weapon system and are you in touch with them i do know people in chd

970
1:48:33 --> 1:48:37
i could put you in touch with them so if you're here that will remind me let's let's be sure

971
1:48:37 --> 1:48:41
that we're going to keep moving mark great work you're doing great work john bodwin

972
1:48:41 --> 1:48:48
um hello bobby n i'm going to go a little bit off topic here and talk about loft that's okay

973
1:48:49 --> 1:48:57
that's a joke by the way sorry yeah so um i missed you down in atlanta sorry i didn't get to meet you

974
1:48:57 --> 1:49:03
um i was uh i was the one on stage when warner cut me off and i didn't get to talk about what

975
1:49:03 --> 1:49:08
i wanted to talk about which is what i'm going to ask you about and do it here instead so let's

976
1:49:08 --> 1:49:14
start with article three section two cases and controversies going up through 100 years of

977
1:49:14 --> 1:49:23
standing doctrine ending up in luhan in like 91 and then to iqbal in uh in the 2000s um it seems

978
1:49:23 --> 1:49:30
to me that standing doctrine is the single uh biggest enemy of the first amendment right to

979
1:49:30 --> 1:49:38
petition for redress agreements it leaves the judges a lot of subjective wiggle room

980
1:49:39 --> 1:49:46
to toss a case on almost anything because you know something that is likely not merely speculative

981
1:49:46 --> 1:49:53
i mean if you define speculative it's anything between uh absolutely happened and absolutely

982
1:49:53 --> 1:50:00
did not happen okay everything in between is speculative whether it's 99.9 to 0.01

983
1:50:01 --> 1:50:06
and so the merely being a qualified now i don't want to talk too much on that i'll just say that

984
1:50:09 --> 1:50:13
lawyers have a duty to the client before them just like doctors have a duty to the patient

985
1:50:13 --> 1:50:19
before them and what that what happens is you get a lot of one-off legal strategies and you

986
1:50:19 --> 1:50:24
don't have an overall strategy where you can get and other guys have heard me say this here

987
1:50:24 --> 1:50:34
you're not hitting multiple legal theories in multiple fora at the same time in order to figure

988
1:50:34 --> 1:50:39
out which one works and all you need is one to win and we have not done that we've had individual

989
1:50:39 --> 1:50:46
litigation cases where there's multiple people trying the same legal theory everybody's getting

990
1:50:46 --> 1:50:53
knocked down we're all getting our asses kicked and standing doctrine iqbal has to go it has to

991
1:50:53 --> 1:51:00
be challenged and taken out at the supreme court level if unless we do this we leave what charles

992
1:51:00 --> 1:51:07
would call corrupt judges to have this objective their their own subjectivity to toss anything

993
1:51:07 --> 1:51:12
they don't want you know that federal judges get a call everybody has a boss and they get a call

994
1:51:12 --> 1:51:17
saying you can't take this case you got to get rid of it and then they just use their you know

995
1:51:17 --> 1:51:23
whatever motion is dismissed from the state on standing they're like yeah okay uh okay we'll kick

996
1:51:23 --> 1:51:29
that out because it's merely speculative or um the right uh the redress of grievances isn't um

997
1:51:31 --> 1:51:35
well that's that's where it would merely speculative i won't go through the traceability

998
1:51:35 --> 1:51:41
and injury in fact i think you get what i'm saying how do you feel about getting together with other

999
1:51:41 --> 1:51:47
lawyers to have a greater strategy my career was putting multiple teams together around the world

1000
1:51:47 --> 1:51:55
to sign a big contract for eight figures um for a raytheon or a lockheed martin or a lucent and

1001
1:51:56 --> 1:52:03
we didn't try to hit people individually we tried to win the corporate deal all nationwide

1002
1:52:03 --> 1:52:10
and that requires um a strategic effort in multiple locations i never see lawyers doing this

1003
1:52:11 --> 1:52:15
would you be up for that kind of thing do you have any comments on everything i said

1004
1:52:15 --> 1:52:27
um yeah i mean standing is definitely um an issue it's there are pros and cons if you don't have the

1005
1:52:27 --> 1:52:34
standing doctrine then uh the courts will be completely flooded with with you know lawsuits

1006
1:52:34 --> 1:52:43
that have no validity or you know people just want to get a judicial declaration on something

1007
1:52:43 --> 1:52:51
and there's no you know injury to be resolved or anything like that so it's um it you know it's a

1008
1:52:51 --> 1:52:59
double-edged sword really but um as far as the idea of um you know getting lawyers together to

1009
1:52:59 --> 1:53:07
you know to coordinate um it's very difficult it's a good idea in theory but it's very difficult

1010
1:53:07 --> 1:53:15
to do logistically i mean that conference in um georgia was the first one of its kind and um

1011
1:53:16 --> 1:53:22
it was great because then you could see which areas you wanted to pursue or which areas you

1012
1:53:22 --> 1:53:26
are involved with and then meet other people that are in that involved in that area as well so

1013
1:53:27 --> 1:53:36
i think more uh perhaps more like that would be helpful um but to have a um

1014
1:53:38 --> 1:53:46
what what we typically have in law is um like um there are certain different bars so like if you are

1015
1:53:46 --> 1:53:53
um a a litigator or a trial attorney or you know you'll be a member of one bar which is just like a

1016
1:53:53 --> 1:54:00
a group basically um if you are in you do elder care law or something but you're a member of that

1017
1:54:00 --> 1:54:07
bar and the point of the bars is to meet other attorneys that are in your field and share

1018
1:54:07 --> 1:54:14
information and talk about issues or cases or whatever so that was the whole point of that

1019
1:54:14 --> 1:54:22
that georgia coven litigation conference was to start some sort of a um uh covid litigation bar

1020
1:54:23 --> 1:54:29
you will um which it was a nationwide thing i mean there were lawyers that i met there from

1021
1:54:29 --> 1:54:35
you know literally states on the other side of the country so um yeah that that is an idea and

1022
1:54:35 --> 1:54:39
that's i think what the point of that organization or that conference was

1023
1:54:42 --> 1:54:49
yeah thank you the john john the great challenge there is a covid litigation group

1024
1:54:49 --> 1:54:55
warner mendenhall started i'm on that group it has some very interesting conversations strategic

1025
1:54:55 --> 1:55:00
conversations and and you're right and john all of the major law firms get the bulk of their

1026
1:55:00 --> 1:55:05
income from big from the big business and from government the majority the big law firms all get

1027
1:55:05 --> 1:55:10
their income from there so they're not going to bite the hand that feeds them for the same reason

1028
1:55:10 --> 1:55:13
the doctors aren't going to bite the hand that pays them money for killing people in hospitals

1029
1:55:14 --> 1:55:20
so that's not all doctors uh charles nothing is all doctors nothing is all lawyers

1030
1:55:22 --> 1:55:30
a cinema so one comment though um with regard to what will happen if they take too many

1031
1:55:30 --> 1:55:37
if so i really want to write a book if you look at the intersection of law and economics especially

1032
1:55:37 --> 1:55:41
at a chicago school of law and economics you look at the work of like a richard epstein

1033
1:55:41 --> 1:55:48
and he has authored a number of books on torts and so forth what you'll find is that the

1034
1:55:48 --> 1:55:54
predo efficient outcome of leaving a more laissez faire standing doctrine is that cases would be

1035
1:55:54 --> 1:56:05
adjudicated and um you know mandatory authority would then exist more succinctly so that people

1036
1:56:05 --> 1:56:11
wouldn't bring cases you know a lawyer would would not bring a case against cell of law because

1037
1:56:11 --> 1:56:16
you have sanctions against we have sanctions against lawyers there are rules against that

1038
1:56:17 --> 1:56:24
uh was it rule 11 um so the standard answer and i don't i'm not knocking you at all i love you

1039
1:56:24 --> 1:56:30
i think you do great work really appreciate it love sujata uh gibson on stage two um you do i

1040
1:56:30 --> 1:56:35
love lawyers that work for the people and individuals but the standard answer from

1041
1:56:36 --> 1:56:44
people who rise up through a career in a system they tend to not think outside that system and

1042
1:56:44 --> 1:56:51
i'm an engineer sorry i think with with uh an mba so i think of systems of economic balance

1043
1:56:52 --> 1:56:57
and the problem with the whole litigation system in the u.s i think the biggest problem we have is

1044
1:56:57 --> 1:57:04
standing doctrine cases are not settled if you look at i just did it's um there's over a hundred

1045
1:57:04 --> 1:57:13
and something thousand excess cases in 2020 i think it was in a single year if you just take

1046
1:57:13 --> 1:57:19
less than half of those fewer than half of those at 50 000 cases most of those could have been

1047
1:57:19 --> 1:57:24
settled by a hundred cases that were taken but but instead most of them were tossed on standing

1048
1:57:24 --> 1:57:28
so if you can get call it precedent for people listening that that's the word they understand

1049
1:57:29 --> 1:57:36
um if you can get precedent on cases then the system comes to an efficient outcome very quickly

1050
1:57:36 --> 1:57:42
and you won't have all these frivolous things being brought it wouldn't happen so it's just

1051
1:57:42 --> 1:57:45
kind of changing the mindset i don't think i'll get there i don't think i'll change the mind of

1052
1:57:45 --> 1:57:51
all the lawyers i do plan on trying to get a case before the supreme court for standing though

1053
1:57:51 --> 1:57:57
if i can change one thing in our entire system at standing because that that is what has removed

1054
1:57:57 --> 1:58:01
um our right for redress and grievances more than anything thanks for your time

1055
1:58:05 --> 1:58:11
yes thank you i i like i said it's a double-edged sword there are good things about the standing

1056
1:58:11 --> 1:58:17
doctrine and there are bad things about the standing doctrine but um it would require

1057
1:58:17 --> 1:58:24
scotus overturning so it is uh definitely a not a quick fix

1058
1:58:25 --> 1:58:28
thank you thank you john thank you for being three questions we've got

1059
1:58:28 --> 1:58:33
25 minutes to go then we go that those those who have the time can go the tom rodman group katherine

1060
1:58:38 --> 1:58:43
hello gobby ann it's nice to see you again i think i did briefly speak with you at at the

1061
1:58:43 --> 1:58:48
coven litigation conference and it's kind of appropriate that i came right after john there

1062
1:58:48 --> 1:58:54
because uh as as charles mentioned there is a base camp group that warner had started about

1063
1:58:54 --> 1:59:01
a year and a half ago now and we did add all of the the lawyers from the conference to it and i

1064
1:59:01 --> 1:59:06
see uh i did invite you but i can resend the email to bring you into that and so that's kind of the

1065
1:59:06 --> 1:59:12
beginning of the the coven bar beyond the conference um i do get the emails i just need

1066
1:59:12 --> 1:59:20
another 15 hours in the day to read them so yes i'm already on there yes all right good

1067
1:59:21 --> 1:59:26
base camp's a little funky there so i wasn't sure um but yeah hopefully we'll be getting to a better

1068
1:59:26 --> 1:59:32
system soon so if you're getting the emails that's all good um and for everybody else here uh for the

1069
1:59:32 --> 1:59:38
videos uh from that conference they are finally out vsrf finally put them out a couple weeks ago

1070
1:59:38 --> 1:59:43
but they really didn't publicize it so i can drop the link in the chat for for people who

1071
1:59:43 --> 1:59:48
weren't there i think it's 200 for the entire conference obviously anybody who attended the

1072
1:59:48 --> 1:59:55
conference can get it for free um but yeah that's that's all i wanted to say so excellent could we

1073
1:59:55 --> 2:00:04
put the chat put put the link in the chat please kathryn yep we'll do so bobby ann you don't need

1074
2:00:04 --> 2:00:09
to say anything on that we go to gary finkelstein now it's yeah no i mean that that was good

1075
2:00:09 --> 2:00:14
information um and yeah thank you for that i just it's i'm i'm on that i'm on that email

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right you know already yes thank you kathryn yeah hi uh pleasure to meet you um so i have a quick

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question and one one question one comment the quick i i i was um the question really about

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the separation of powers and my concern is uh the possibility of packing the court and what happens

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then and uh and how can one stop it um because it seems that those that want to uh not live by the

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constitution will will will do anything to you know get what they want and my comment is i don't

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know if you've come across uh law any of lord chief justice assumptions lord jonathan assumption

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retired lord chief justice in the uk um for me a seminal moment i'll put a link in the chat or

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something for me a seminal moment uh obviously being was right at the time of the very first

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lockdown in the uk so at the very start of the pandemic uh he went public uh and you know smelling

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a fish because uh apart from being the lord chief justice he's also a very eminent historian and

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what he observed is a power grab and his observation from history is whenever you get an extreme power

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grab built on fear it's it's very slow slowly if ever given back and it leads to tyranny so one of

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it's amazing that we i mean we haven't fully come out come out of it but you know we were

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it's anyway i just wanted to i'll draw that to your attention because sounds like you haven't

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come across his work um but he's obviously uh he clue on the law on this side of the pond but if

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i don't mind if if you don't mind what's your thoughts on subverting the

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separation of powers uh through packing the court

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oh yeah it's it's a horrible it's a horrible idea um they threat to pack the supreme court is

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um i think a fear tactic to try to um get the because it's currently six to three supposedly

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um conservative um but yeah i think it's i think it's a scare tactic so that um you know hey do

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do what i want you to do kind of a thing uh otherwise i'm going to pack the court and get

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what i want that way um but yeah i mean i definitely am against it i think that it's um

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a big problem if they do pack the court because they're going to pack it you know going the wrong

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direction for the constitution um but even as it is with the six three split right now there have

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been cases uh decisions that they've put out that i'm just like this is this is against the

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constitution you know where are you getting this from so um i i can't really say you know what

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will happen but i definitely i am against packing the court absolutely okay thank you gary um

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jonathan assumption was often referred to as the cleverest man in britain but now nobody talks

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about clever people in the united kingdom yeah and also i think i'm right in saying um that he

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actually took the jam to go on holiday after he did that brilliant speech in september of 2020 i

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think it was he was coerced he was coerced well he's not clever enough when it when it comes to

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i know he said that he wanted to travel so yes i know i've got friends who were unbelievable

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that even jonathan assumption with his understanding of history and having worked it all out um at least

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to a degree he then goes and takes the jab so steven i've got friends who had the jab because

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they wanted to travel that is called coercion they were coerced because otherwise they couldn't

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travel that's a simple coercion yes but but jonathan assumption understood yeah i get that well

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he's not as he's clever at history and clever at law but he's not clever at at science and medicine

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and statistics and was not very clever of being a human being as a okay well i think he's great

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though he well his speech i think was the 31st of march or 31st of may on bbc radio 4 was a

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seminal moment from here that was the wake up moment he had done a he'd done a speech before

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that in i think september 2020 i can't remember i used to send it around and i ended up speaking

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to jonathan assumption yeah he didn't like my letter to the lancet though

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thank you so okay rose and then back to steven for last questions and then we'll be finishing up

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thank you gary rose hi two quick things for bobby and then one for bobby and mark um

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why isn't anybody going after the governors who in my opinion did absolutely unconstitutional

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hospital liability exemption when all the hospitals had to do was use a who icd code of

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covet to get away with malpractice and manslaughter and number two for you bobby is i had mentioned

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on the previous one about the 1974 national research act that the majority of people are

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not aware of because that reviews the informed consent you can't do coercion unduly influencing

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etc and then the one thing i have for both of you is nobody's reviewing insurance policies

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i found an insurance policy for a public school back in 2017 and in it it read specifically

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exemption from coverage from direct or indirect injury from emf exposure so i have a loaded three

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part actually one the 1974 was just informational but then the other two are questions

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and rose rose can you bring that to bobby an's attention because bobby an came from a real

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estate background she's doing this great work because rose raised this a couple of weeks ago

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bobby and and this read this 1974 legislation has some interesting implications rose can you

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explain that to bobby an yeah sure um bobby my background is i've been in health care for

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40 years so um nobody is aware of the 1974 national research act which was signed in

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from the belmont report because of the tiskegee scandal and they very specifically outline

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the safety parameters for bio and emotional experimentation and it specifically goes over

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the need for informed consent you have to give added protection for the non-autonomous which

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would be children the elderly in hospitals people in prison etc and it's very clear verbiage about

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autonomy justice must have comprehension there's so much wonderful language in there and nobody's

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aware of the 1974 national research act which was signed by nixon

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yeah so um to answer you what was the first part of your question i'll go in order oh the other

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is um why isn't anybody going after the governors who in my opinion they unconstitutionally just

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2:08:15 --> 2:08:21
gave hospitals liability exemption that's that was ludicrous and unconstitutional yeah i'm not

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familiar with um if it came from the governors or if it came from the state legislatures

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um i have not looked into that um i i have heard about um the protection and the liability and such

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but i i can't really speak to it because i don't know if it came from governors or the legislature

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two different branches of government nobody's addressing it at all because it was completely

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unconstitutional i don't know if anybody's addressing it i think yeah i have i have heard

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about it um in some context which i think maybe it was in florida maybe maybe people

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2:09:03 --> 2:09:06
that i'm in contact with in florida were talking about it or something like this but um

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so i don't know there might be people addressing it but i i certainly can't speak to it because i am

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2:09:13 --> 2:09:23
not familiar with the topic at all and the other part of your question was about the this federal

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law yeah i just wanted i just wanted to make you aware of its components and i can post the link

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again but the other part was for you and mark steel of is anybody reading insurance policies

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2:09:40 --> 2:09:46
and going from that angle because i actually sent 5g information with that to like county

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2:09:46 --> 2:09:52
commissioners and i said basically if you're allowing the rollout of 5g with the potential

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2:09:52 --> 2:10:02
of invalidating all of these people healthcare policies yeah um again not i'm not familiar with

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2:10:02 --> 2:10:10
that i don't know anybody doing that um and so i i can't speak to that topic so so okay well i

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2:10:10 --> 2:10:15
want to throw it out to you and mark steel that that's an approach that people need to really

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2:10:15 --> 2:10:23
start hammering i think rose garry finkelstein who just spoke he is an actuary uh for insurance

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2:10:23 --> 2:10:30
companies i think um i don't want to misrepresent is he still on i wonder and i'm still here i've

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2:10:30 --> 2:10:35
been wondering garry is that right are you an actuary with insurance companies yeah although i

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2:10:35 --> 2:10:44
don't look at property uh stuff i'm really just focused on mortality and yes okay so i don't

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2:10:44 --> 2:10:52
understand as a doctor in the uk garry why why the actuaries and the insurance companies aren't

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noticing the uh the excess mortality or if they are they're not saying anything why aren't well

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2:10:58 --> 2:11:02
i don't know they absolutely are so we are seeing excess mortality at the current time and

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2:11:02 --> 2:11:08
the institute of actuaries has got a board called the continuous mortality investigation bureau and

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they report i think it's every week every month or every week it's every week actually and yeah at

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2:11:14 --> 2:11:20
the current time there is quite a significant excess mortality there's a bit of a debate going

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2:11:20 --> 2:11:27
on about you know the causes and um there's multis considered to be multi-factorial uh you know this

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2:11:27 --> 2:11:33
the interventions but um no also some things there's a bit of obviously there's controversy

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and people look at data in different ways i haven't heard any controversy though and so i so i knew

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that you're an actuary in an insurance company garry but you haven't been on recently as far as

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i know and i wanted to ask you why aren't the insurance companies who have a vested interest

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in as few deaths as possible in a given time making it more noise about the huge number of excess

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deaths in the united kingdom for example i think it's something like 150 135 000 is it so

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a couple of things um it's a it's we are having excess mortality and it is going on uh like i

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said the institute of actuaries does have a continuous mortality investigation bureau

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and they do publish it and and it's being looked at very closely one thing about the uk life

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2:12:23 --> 2:12:30
insurance industry is it's very heavily weighted to what used to be compulsory purchase pension

1180
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annuities so these are policies that pay out if you live not if you die and and if people die

1181
2:12:37 --> 2:12:43
sooner than expected that insurance company actually makes money so the the uk industry

1182
2:12:43 --> 2:12:47
is a little bit different from i mean there is a lot of term protection insurance which pays out

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2:12:48 --> 2:12:53
short if you die there's quite a lot of that but the uk industry is very diversified

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but insurance companies have a responsibility to society as well so if they have the they must be

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2:13:01 --> 2:13:07
looking into all these figures analyzing them to death why don't we hear anything from the

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2:13:07 --> 2:13:12
insurance companies well i mean you can go to the industry of actuaries website and you'll see what

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they have to say about it what i'm going to say is within the industry the insurance industry

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2:13:18 --> 2:13:26
there is a the excess mortality is visible at the moment it was it hasn't always been excess

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mortality at all in all quarters through the through the pandemic just i mean through the

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last three years no i've seen i've seen a graph and there've been rises in i've seen some of the

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2:13:36 --> 2:13:42
graphs in this group but they're not correct um the the the why aren't you sharing the graphs

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2:13:42 --> 2:13:47
with us because i remember you saying before you had any figures it would be very interesting to

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see the figures now the figures we haven't heard from you so i just i'm not criticized i just want

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2:13:52 --> 2:13:59
wonder it's frustrating i'll be happy to put a link to this insure actually uh web website where

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2:13:59 --> 2:14:04
you can see the excess mortality being being measured by the way that's the excess of mortality

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2:14:04 --> 2:14:09
of insured lives it's a little bit different to the excess mortality of the whole population that

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comes out of the office of national statistics i understand that um but it's you know the the

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mortality of insured lives across the whole industry is still very you know from memory i

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2:14:20 --> 2:14:24
remember you looking forward to the time when you'd have the figures so i must have this so i

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as you know i was personally looking at these figures up until the end of 2021 and of course

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2:14:31 --> 2:14:36
during 2020 as well 2020 the excess mortality had nothing to do with the vaccine

1202
2:14:37 --> 2:14:44
at the end of 2021 there was no mortality in 2020 there was there was a very significant excess

1203
2:14:44 --> 2:14:50
mortality through the first half of the year oh in the first lockdown yes exactly but from a doctor's

1204
2:14:50 --> 2:14:56
point of view i can think of many reasons other than um injections for that well there weren't

1205
2:14:56 --> 2:15:03
any injections in 2020 but um what i'm going to say is that the the the controversy within

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2:15:03 --> 2:15:08
the industry of the excess mortality we're seeing now is one of the principal causes and you know

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is it due to the effects of lockdown is it due to the delayed treatment is it due to

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but gary i've never heard i've never didn't even know there was a debate going on there's no debates

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2:15:18 --> 2:15:24
been reported anyway oh well so there's a separate there is a debate within the within the industry

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2:15:24 --> 2:15:29
for those that are in that field but i think one of the things that our guest has pointed out is

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our media at the moment is very selective about what they want to report

1212
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right so will you come on and talk to us as a group about um the the figures

1213
2:15:42 --> 2:15:50
yeah i'll i'll i'll have to plan plan it out with with you but yes i'll i'll come back to you on

1214
2:15:50 --> 2:15:55
that yes okay can you email me we're gonna move we only got a few minutes left we've got janet

1215
2:15:55 --> 2:15:59
rose are we finished metaphorically speaking with you before janet

1216
2:16:03 --> 2:16:10
looks like we have yeah i was on me yes go ahead i'm good thanks thanks rose janet and then steven

1217
2:16:10 --> 2:16:18
we're finished yeah thanks um yeah i just wanted to say that my understanding is that um health

1218
2:16:18 --> 2:16:25
damage from emf from whether it's wireless routers or masks or phones or what have you

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2:16:25 --> 2:16:31
has never actually been insurable and my understanding is that for example if a

1220
2:16:31 --> 2:16:40
farmer has a a mast on his land if there is any health damage from that mast in local people

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2:16:41 --> 2:16:47
he is actually liable but the actual um the companies who supply the masks and who

1222
2:16:47 --> 2:16:56
transmit this wireless radiation they're not uh then it's not insured so um i think you know that

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2:16:56 --> 2:17:01
might be worth looking at and i think that that covers things like 3g 4g as well as 5g

1224
2:17:01 --> 2:17:09
yeah and janet um do you think there's a what do you understand so janet's a medical doctor bobby

1225
2:17:09 --> 2:17:15
and um and i just wonder whether janet uh what do you think about the pcr what mark steele says

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2:17:15 --> 2:17:22
about the pcr uh possibility of uh essentially injecting people to get this uh structure in so

1227
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that they can attack human beings with uh 5g is that right is that they're not they're not

1228
2:17:29 --> 2:17:37
5g is that right is that they were they were talking about um these little black worms in the pcr

1229
2:17:37 --> 2:17:44
swabs weren't they in 2020 and people were having a look at them and same thing in the masks as well

1230
2:17:44 --> 2:17:48
and i don't know what the structures were but i mean certainly people were finding anomalous

1231
2:17:48 --> 2:17:53
structures within those and you know you have to wonder oh so it's not just the pcr tests the masks

1232
2:17:53 --> 2:17:58
as well yes now you mentioned it i remember that yeah yeah wow wow

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2:18:00 --> 2:18:10
yeah yeah all right thank you thank you janet thank you janet bobby and great great work steven

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any final questions before we let bobby and go through it's so kind of you to give us two and

1235
2:18:14 --> 2:18:20
a half hours we know how busy you are but it gives an opportunity for people to to craft their

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thinking and i again reiterate we need to and and the bus raise wind driving and bobby ann as well

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2:18:26 --> 2:18:31
we need to educate people about their rights so then they'll stand up for them because a lot of

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2:18:31 --> 2:18:37
people think they haven't any bobby and i think that's so so crucial secondly we wanted those of

1239
2:18:37 --> 2:18:44
you who can donate or find other people to donate to bobby ann's work go to the websites cox lawyers

1240
2:18:44 --> 2:18:52
correct yeah i'm gonna put it in the i'll put it here in the chat it's my website is cox lawyers

1241
2:18:52 --> 2:18:59
and then if people want more information about the quarantine lawsuit the citizens group uniting

1242
2:18:59 --> 2:19:07
new york state put up a website specifically about the case so i'll put that here in the chat as well

1243
2:19:07 --> 2:19:13
please please put that in there all right so steven last last one let bobby and put that

1244
2:19:13 --> 2:19:18
into the chat and then last questions and we'll go across to tom rodman for those who can

1245
2:19:24 --> 2:19:29
yeah uh i thought steven do you have something because i can oh yeah sorry i thought you were

1246
2:19:29 --> 2:19:35
doing that so have you finished yeah no i was just going to say if anybody wants more information

1247
2:19:35 --> 2:19:41
to uh yeah to check in the chat i'm putting the links in there but uh thank you for having me on

1248
2:19:41 --> 2:19:47
i appreciate it and um yeah it's it's always great to see so many people fighting for our rights

1249
2:19:47 --> 2:19:52
around the world so everybody keep up the good fight so bobby and i hope it hasn't been too

1250
2:19:52 --> 2:19:57
horrible an experience but we we were on your side even though it may not have seemed like that to you

1251
2:19:57 --> 2:20:07
um of course and i would like to congratulate you on behalf of the group um for your brilliant work

1252
2:20:07 --> 2:20:16
and what better state in america to do it than new york state yeah i know it's it's quite uh it's

1253
2:20:16 --> 2:20:21
quite a challenge but we we beat them once so we will we will keep trying to beat them again

1254
2:20:22 --> 2:20:28
yeah can i just ask you bobby and um what do you think it was in your childhood or your upbringing

1255
2:20:28 --> 2:20:34
which brought you to this point so you saw something that no other lawyer in the world saw

1256
2:20:34 --> 2:20:41
apparently and you brought a case against the new york city new york state governor and won it um

1257
2:20:41 --> 2:20:47
on a constitutional issue and that's just brilliant and i don't know whether you fully realized

1258
2:20:48 --> 2:20:57
um so you're rather special from my point of view uh when do you what was it in your childhood or

1259
2:20:57 --> 2:21:04
in your upbringing which led you to this place of special responsibility if you like yeah uh you know

1260
2:21:04 --> 2:21:14
what i it really is quite an amazing story uh i did an interview with epoch times um last november

1261
2:21:15 --> 2:21:21
uh about it if anybody wants to get here you know the nitty-gritty details that that interview on

1262
2:21:21 --> 2:21:29
epoch times is on my website under my media page um on cox lawyers.com but um in short basically i

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2:21:29 --> 2:21:35
you know i had when i learned about that regulation the quarantine regulation i had reached out to many

1264
2:21:35 --> 2:21:42
colleagues um and i said to them you know you need to read this regulation this is horrific

1265
2:21:42 --> 2:21:44
you know we have to bring a lawsuit we have to strike this down

1266
2:21:45 --> 2:21:50
um because my my background was not constitutional law it was not civil rights i had never filed a

1267
2:21:50 --> 2:21:57
civil rights lawsuit in my life um so nobody would step up nobody would take the case nobody

1268
2:21:57 --> 2:22:04
would come on the case with me um well yeah and anybody noticed it apart from you oh yeah other

1269
2:22:04 --> 2:22:12
attorneys had had heard about it um but they didn't want to you know they didn't want to work

1270
2:22:12 --> 2:22:21
for free uh they didn't think my theory was was good you know um they just weren't interested i

1271
2:22:21 --> 2:22:27
reached out to organizations you know these uh civil rights organizations um brought it to their

1272
2:22:27 --> 2:22:33
attention they weren't interested in getting involved uh most of them didn't even respond

1273
2:22:33 --> 2:22:40
were they really conflicted do you think with hindsight bobby and i think of many of the

1274
2:22:41 --> 2:22:47
traditional so-called traditional civil rights organizations um are not what people think they

1275
2:22:47 --> 2:22:53
are i think they've proven themselves to be exactly the complete opposite of the exact opposite yeah

1276
2:22:53 --> 2:22:59
controlled opposition international is a good example because yeah because i and i wrote a

1277
2:22:59 --> 2:23:06
sub stack about it uh a month or so ago you know where aware have the civil rights organizations

1278
2:23:06 --> 2:23:12
gone right because because they're not here and they wouldn't even not only were they not involved

1279
2:23:12 --> 2:23:17
in the case they wouldn't even write an amicus brief to support my case you know and and now

1280
2:23:17 --> 2:23:23
that she's appealing they're still not writing an amicus brief to to support my case so um i just

1281
2:23:23 --> 2:23:32
you know i i saw something and again this was after two full years of complete government

1282
2:23:32 --> 2:23:38
overreach living under complete tyranny in new york state right um and seeing everybody around

1283
2:23:38 --> 2:23:45
me suffer and seeing my clients suffer and it was all at the government expense it was all because

1284
2:23:45 --> 2:23:51
of what the government was doing to everybody it was whether it was through schools or through the

1285
2:23:51 --> 2:23:56
you know eviction moratorium or through the masking or through the social distancing it was

1286
2:23:56 --> 2:24:03
all government controlled complete breach of of the constitution on multiple levels and then when

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i saw this i said no way there's no way i'm gonna let them get away with this so nobody wanted to

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do it i did it myself so wow yes brilliant great worker well okay thank you thank you we honor you

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bobby ann thank you for being with us everybody um mainstream media we need media attention you

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got you got a clap of hands here from gary fink here bobby anne can i just ask a bobby anne one

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question charles she she so bobby anne i'm in touch with daniel estrelin who has a platform of

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10 million people would you like to be interviewed for the spanish speaking world

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oh yes that would be wonderful definitely we have to bring more people into the fold absolutely

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great idea yeah great idea so i'll arrange that with daniel estrelin and if i seem to have

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forgotten when you just would you mind reminding me just because i'm trying to remember all this

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stuff and so difficult yes i i will definitely reach out to you um and ask you to connect me

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because i think the spanish speaking world yes we we need to reach all all societies all over the

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place because this is yes you know this is step up and do something now or you're gonna have no

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rights that's it gone especially yes exactly thank you so much thank you yes everybody thank

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you for the links um wonderful i'll keep the chat open for a minute or so bobby ann will send i'll

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send through the chat to you make sure have you saved your chat there's some lots of yeah there's

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lots of good stuff and i think and i just i see carlos was live streaming thank you carlos

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um he he does a live stream on his facebook i see it very good yeah

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very good that sounds a spanish name to me anyway i'll put you in touch with daniel estrelin

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and uh he's such a clever guy knows exactly what's going on excellent thank you so much

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he'd be very interested to meet a lawyer who's been fighting for the constitution of new york

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state and america of course oh then yes absolutely i would like the introduction

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bobby ann before you go everybody while we're waiting for the last comments in the chat

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uh i'm going to tell you a story about a new york judge hearing a case and he called the

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council for the plaintiff and the defendant up to the bench as they often do in u.s court cases

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never happens in australia and he said to the plaintiff's lawyer uh you have given me five

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hundred dollars to decide this case in your client's favor you turn to defense counsel you've

1313
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given me a thousand dollars to decide the case in your client's favor i'm going to give you back

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five hundred dollars to the defendant's counsel i'm going to decide the case on its merits so

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uh

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off we go bye okay see you steven i'll send the chance to tom rodman is about you know

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do you sorry atrass do you know carlos bobby ann yes oh you do okay well if he wants to come along

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and live streamers every week he's welcome to do that and we'll get you in the loop of the bobby

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ann interview all right everybody thank you so much thanks everybody thank you

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uh charles we've got um what's his name yorker and norden gourd on tuesday wonderful the swedish

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kind brilliant one and the thing we want to learn from him is how do we handle this

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bio hose of information that's what i'm really interested in tom rodman had some exactly so

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we're learning on this good okay excellent thanks steven it's worse than medical school

1324
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yeah bye carlos hey hold on a second and now i can i put my microphone charge i don't know how you

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found me i know bobby i did many interviews with her and i take the risk to to put it in

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in my facebook channel uh i have 380 okay i'm here yeah very good 380 50 000 followers has been

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restricted but when you what you said stephen please let me know because i am in touch with the

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the spanish community i am from argentina so since we won the world cup we can do anything

1329
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yeah sure yeah we need people who can do anything who believe that carlos i put steven's i've sent

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you steven's email address in in the chat for you charlie how how did you find me you have been

1331
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sending me this invitation for many months how did you find me you don't even know don't even

1332
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know okay we don't even remember we don't even remember someone must have recommended you it

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might have been bobby and i don't know maybe it's on callis what's what's your email address

1334
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uh okay i'll type it here for for everyone uh okay let me see the one that you i am receiving

1335
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this invitation from you yeah from you from your email yeah and two two

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uh okay i got it i put it here yeah so how many meetings have you been to carlos this is the first

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one because i usually i'm playing beach volleyball i live next to the beach in los angeles so

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but i tried to cram on another one and then i couldn't get here because there were too many

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people well you must try to come to the one on tuesday because we've got the the swedish expert

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on um world economic forum and bilderberg group and all the rest of them on um and he's an expert

1341
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he's been working on his own and i've managed to persuade him to speak to us because he uh

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uh well he wanted he got so many things to do in scandinavia and i said well nobody's gonna

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hear you in scandinavia um so anyway he came on he's coming on to on uh tuesday okay i will check

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if they made that i received i think yesterday that information is there but thank you so much

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and i try always to help thank you very much how many people are watching on your

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facebook um well let me tell you right now what happened is my three pages have been restricted

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now but still i have a good okay let me tell you right now a good following uh i tell you right now

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so i do in my three pages one has 450 views the other 500 the other 600 but in a in a few in a

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week they will have two three four thousand each one excellent oh very good yeah so well done carlos

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we're gonna go see you next time and and you've got steven's email vice versa and uh we'll we will

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get the spanish you know i i always restream whenever i can beautiful thank you bless us bye

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bye bless yes thank you charles thanks steven thanks everybody

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you