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Now welcome to our guest presenter Dr David Bradford.
We thank you David for giving us your time and for those who didn't receive the invitation.
I'm going to share a little bit of your background.
You are a fifth generation Texan.
You devoted your professional life to being a critical thinker, writer, teacher and professor,
economist, journalist and political, military affairs veteran.
David was raised in Japan and Africa, his parents being Baptist missionaries.
David Bradford is a graduate of the International American School in Japan and attended King
George V School in Hong Kong and is a Deputy Foreign Political Advisor at the US Indo-Pacific
Commander.
He did observations in over 90 nations.
David Bradford is obsessed with understanding nation building history, political policy
and how the American government manages to make and keep the states of America united.
David has served as an aide to President Lyndon Johnson, as writer to George H.W. Bush, Ronald
Reagan and NATO Ambassador David Abshire.
He's the author of Interagency Cooperation, a regional model for overseas cooperation.
And the last thing I want to say about you David is that you, I'm told, can speak 11
languages.
So there you are.
How about that everybody?
I can speak two fluently, but 11 is amazing.
And thank you, Stephen Frost, again for being with us and for organizing David to be with
us.
And thank you Carla Dean for your help in having David address us today.
David, we're all ears.
We can't see you on the screen because of tech problems, but we can certainly hear you.
Can you hear me now?
Can you hear me?
Yes, we can.
I think the topic is where are we going with world affairs and foreign policy under the
Trump administration?
My classmates, my people that I've trained and people that I work with all around the
world have been inundating me with phone calls.
I would say most of them are quite delighted with the change in American administration.
They see Trump as a business entity, not necessarily a political entity, even though
they, even though he was the president before.
People just don't count that.
It was sort of like a learning session for him, but now he's learned a lot and he has
brought on some very fascinating people for his cabinet.
In my discussions with people in Indonesia, Thailand, Israel, Manchuria, believe it or
not, in Kyrgyzstan and some of the other people in some of the provinces of the former Soviet
Union, now the Republic of Russia.
We came up with this idea of what is world affairs and foreign policy?
Because it has to make economic sense, political sense, and this will really shock you, but
it actually has to make common sense.
When I was in the State Department, Blinken was a very young officer.
I'm old, by the way.
I'm 76 years old and I've been in federal service for 52 years and teaching for 52 years.
Blinken was this young, snotty-nosed kid and we didn't think much of him then and I still
don't think much of him, unfortunately, because he has done some outrageously unbelievably
unpopular and unwise decisions.
The common sense is not in the State Department anymore.
Economic sense has gone awry and politically, I think the administration is completely bankrupt.
However, Stephen Kurtz, back in the 60s, wrote, he used to say that you have a foreign policy
to ensure your self-preservation and your own security and your continued existence
under the best possible social, political, and economic conditions.
I work a lot with West Coast Africans and Dan Moody has been pretty good with that too.
We understand that they need things.
They need that economic conditions, agriculture, for example, and port security and basically
port building.
So those are very important concepts.
Anyway, these objectives, the social, political, and economic conditions, these objectives
were not articulated so they would conflict.
We don't try to conflict with other nations, but they were done so that we could all pursue
a cooperative endeavor.
And under the Reagan, when I worked with President Reagan, he articulated the fact that he says,
I don't want to be feared, I want to be loved, but I want to be able to be loved instead
of feared because we will be the most powerful nation on earth.
We will have the strongest political military organizations that we can have.
I don't know if that's a good idea or a bad idea, but to this day, right now, no one in
the immediate administration took those words as a plan of action to be fulfilled.
Instead, foreign policy today is a complicated mess.
And it's just the ineptness of the Obama administration and the ineptness of the Biden administration
is disastrously unmoored from reality.
So we're going to have to rethink the purpose of foreign policy.
Now, I wrote a pretty lengthy white paper and sent it to the first Trump administration
in 2017.
And I found out later on through my sources that Jeff Sessions, who was leading the lead
on all that, he was the attorney general or something in Alabama, he destroyed all the
papers.
He never submitted any of the white papers that were asked for from scholars and intelligence
agencies.
He destroyed them all.
So Trump never got to see what people were thinking about around the world.
And I know that Trump travels around the world, he's got businesses, but that's usually golf
and hotels and not deep, you know, foreign affairs.
So I was pretty pissed.
So anyway, I've backdooring the papers to him again, only they've been updated based
on the idea of sovereignty since we're no longer a sovereign nation.
We've lost sovereignty.
As a Texan, I will tell you all the way I'm up in Texarkana, which is on the Arkansas,
Louisiana, Oklahoma border.
We have so many illegal aliens traversing through our cities and our counties.
And I mean, it's just unbelievable that we have no sovereign border.
And Governor Abbott does a great job of protecting it.
But you know, the federal allies let them in and we fight them to control them.
They're committing crimes and burning timber farms because they're hungry.
And then they start fires and they cook them out in the forest and that starts timber fires.
And we are the timber belt of Texas.
We have the massive forest here.
And so, I mean, it's just a very dangerous time that we have not we do not have control
of our own nation.
So there is a method, there is a methodology that we need to remind ourselves that there are
11 policy principles that go along with foreign policy.
And the first policy is, you know, health and agriculture.
I mean, do you have an agricultural system?
If you don't have one, you're in trouble.
And so you have to import a lot of your foodstuffs.
And America is probably one of the greatest, as you may or may not know, one of the greatest
agricultural growing regions in the world because of our latitude and longitude.
And then we're still working with our health system as it came full war here last week
with the assassination of a health health president of health care.
That's going to come under some interesting scrutiny, probably from Robert Kennedy.
We also have got to have a better industrial base.
We've got to have an information base.
We've got to have a banking system.
And the banking system is about to be turned inside out with this cryptocurrency business.
And coming off gold standards.
And so the world is in a very interesting position to be repositioned.
I mean, is it possible that we could understand our system as free,
uncovered, crazy and competitive and altogether?
And that's what we're going to see.
And will foreign policy be left out?
Now, I lived in Florida for 33 years.
I was a hypergolic rocket engine specialist.
And I was helping Elon Musk build his Falcon system out of Cape Canaveral and showing him
some things about rocket fuel that I know he understands it, but he didn't understand it.
So I spent a lot of time working with him and teaching his staff.
I love these young kids, young engineers coming out of Georgia Tech.
But man, are they young.
And they're very dependent upon their laptop rather than opening tech data up in front of them.
So it's kind of an interesting teaching.
But all these things kind of pull together is that if we're going to be we need to have confidence
with other people in the world.
The thing is, do we want to help other nations understand their place in the world?
Or do we want them to understand our place in the world?
We've got to find that circumstance to help them discover something that we should all know.
Our aid, and I work foreign military sales for the State Department, and I work all kinds of
projects in Bangladesh trying to un-flood that country.
It just they don't need weapons.
They need the core of engineers to build them a dike and dam system that will rival the
Mississippi River. I can't believe a country floods like that.
It just it breaks my heart to do it.
But aid, foreign aid, if it's wrong or in the wrong amounts or for the wrong system, has a
deleterious effect on the nation's growth.
Because if that nation violates the 11 other principles that go along with foreign, it props up
the failing state and exasperates its own problems.
And then it becomes a problem for us.
And we were doing great with Peru for years and years.
And all of a sudden, they just dropped off our scope.
They dropped off our mission.
When they moved the U.S.
Southern Command out of Panama and moved it to Miami, and so therefore, the people didn't have
access to the 20 countries from Mexico running down to Argentina and out to the Caribbean.
They didn't have that immediate access.
We kind of just let them all go.
And now you've got the Chinese building ports in that western part of South America.
They're making inroads and infiltration.
And that just it exacerbates American foreign policy, but it also it scrambles our coherent
foreign policy. And so the only thing we have we had going for us is that we had a
very, very strong Navy.
And that Navy patrols the slots, sea lines and communications.
The Navy can have diplomatic and economic impact on nations that they visit.
And also in the Navy now has fallen so far behind.
I think it's a two hundred and forty to one ratio is what they're saying with the Chinese Navy.
The Japanese have a pretty impressive Navy, except they have a demographic problem.
They don't have young people to go into the Navy.
And so they are coming apart slowly.
South Korea is a fascinating ally.
But again, they just had a impeachment problem with their president and they're having to
question each other. Then we find out North Korea's army is sitting on the Ukraine-Russian
border. And it is it is very complicated to explain now.
Our system, open shipping lanes, the Navy is supposed to be doing that.
Now we've got significant world crisis in the Straits of Hormuz, and we've got the people
shooting missiles out of the out of the baseline, out of the Horn.
I mean, I.
I think the normal person is very worried about the paradox of foreign policy.
And it's not just America's foreign policy.
It's a lot of countries foreign policy.
I spent some time in Sudan trying to understand the split between the North and South and
whose army is doing what to whom and what is their vision and what is their goal.
And they couldn't articulate it.
They couldn't even identify their own flag anymore.
One of the things I did is when I was in the US Southern Command, working with the
Southern Command strategy is that we would do Gallup polls in nations and ask some very
serious questions like, can you identify your flag?
Can you sing your national anthem?
When was the last time you voted?
I mean, just basic questions.
And we find out that people knew very little about their own country.
And because there was no logical planning.
In a nation to advise people about what their foreign policy is, Nicaraguan's had a very
interesting foreign policy.
Let's get the Chinese in here and build that sea level canal that we've talked about for
50 years. And now I understand China is doing the survey to build the sea level canal
through Nicaragua. That will do very interesting things to Panama and the canal.
One of the worst jobs I ever had in federal service was turning over the canal, lowering
the American flag and putting up the Panamanian flag and letting them run the canal.
And it's gotten expensive and it's gotten.
Of course, Gatun Lake is emptied out, so the canal was running very poorly all summer
long. It's trying to come back.
Here's something I found out over the many years of going in and out of countries and
talking to people and all my classmates who live, by the way, the American school in Japan
is an international school.
Don't let the American word throw you.
Sort of like KG5 in Hong Kong, King George V.
We are everywhere in every country in the world.
I've got I have classmates and I have people that I have taught all over the world and
we all feed each other interesting information.
We have a reunion every five years.
The next reunion is in 2026 in Dallas at the Anatole Hotel, and the people will come from
over 95 different countries that classmates and we have a cluster reunion.
So we'll bring my class as a class of 66, but we'll bring class of 62 all the way up
to 72 and people will come and they'll talk and we all wear the same.
We all have the same ring.
We never change that ring and we study and talk to each other.
One of my best friends, we played soccer together in high school.
He showed up at a reunion one time in Hawaii.
He was a lieutenant colonel in the KGB.
I was a lieutenant colonel in the Air Force in intelligence.
That was a very fascinating discussion back and forth.
And then we both had to report to our agencies that we had met with the bad guys.
But they're all concerned is that.
Foreign policy should not be about bullying, essentially good people and
supplicating towards bad ones.
Those words always stick in my head for someone.
For some reason is that we should never bully good people.
And but boy, we we spend billions of dollars taking care of an
Afghanistan government that we collapsed and we pulled out of and we keep paying them money.
And why are we supplicating toward bad ones?
And I ran and I mean, people ask me these questions all the time when we have our
backdoor discussions and.
This Iran nuclear accord is one of the most complicated
machinations of disastrous policy ever.
And no nation, including Iran, could cause their own diplomatic efforts,
expecting an immediate change to something that's blocking their advancement.
I mean, we their population is weakened and they're not resolute.
There's economic upheaval.
And so.
I was lectured one time by the NATO ambassador, Ambassador Abshah,
who I worked as, as far as chief of staff.
He told me that foreign policy is about carefully chosen words.
Carefully choreographed actions.
And patience, patience and more patience.
The people I've been talking to recently since the election was over.
Don't believe in patience, patience, patience.
They want results now because their countries are failing.
Their leadership is failing.
Their economic system is failing.
Their energy systems are failing and they are very, very worried about losing.
Their.
Losing their sovereignty status.
They, you know, they don't believe they're a sovereign nation anymore.
They're just a bunch of cut up different tribes.
They've been almost back to a tribal system and economic system.
So they are worried.
Now, the one people that are not worried.
Israelis.
They're not worried.
Yet, if you really look at their country, they don't have the resources and the
agricultural systems and all the things that Americans have.
But they are not worried.
In fact, they're quite pleased.
Now, one of my dear friends.
Called me.
And said, boy, I guess you guys in America, so really, really happy that
Governor Huckabee has been is going to be the new US ambassador to Israel.
I said, are you said that hasn't been announced.
In fact, I don't think I mean, I had I had dinner with Huckabee three weeks ago and
you know, he would be vetted.
He'd be telling us that they said, oh, you you guys are always slow over there in
America.
It's sure enough.
I mean, three days later, you know, Trump makes the announcement that that's his
nomination.
Well, first of all, I called Huckabee up and I said, hey, my friends are telling me
you're going to be the US ambassador to Israel.
He says, David, you got to quit smoking that weird stuff.
You know, you don't know what you're talking about.
He says, I live in the villages in Florida.
I'm a very quiet, secure guy and I make great commercials.
I said, OK, go there. Whatever.
Three days later, he calls me, said, how in the hell did you know that?
How do you know that?
He said, I'm the you know, how do you know that?
I said, I'm the US ambassador to Israel.
I said, I'm just telling you what my people told me.
So they're already planning of the people around the world, important countries
to us are already planning and thinking about who is going to be coming to them.
And it's fascinating the interlocked connectivity of everybody together now,
maybe it's social media, maybe it's the ability to communicate almost immediately.
So. They're telling me.
American foreign policy, in fact, world policy, ought to be,
do you want to be a hermit nation or do you want to be a social entity
that the rest of the world will embrace?
You have two choices to go.
And they're believing they honestly believe that Trump is going to get
nations to be social entities that the rest of the world will embrace.
So he does.
And I mean, when he walked across the DMZ,
when he was a president met with Kim Jong-il, that was
that was a very interesting opening of a door.
And it sticks.
It sticks with the North Koreans.
And I don't know if you know this or not, but.
The Baptist Missionary Church, we have an orphanage in North Korea.
Did you know that very few churches have anything in North Korea,
but we have an orphanage upon the Russian, where Russia, North Korea
and China will come together, an orphanage, and we take in kids
that have no parents and we get a lot of support.
But we have interesting sources of information
that even a lot of people don't have.
And it's quite fascinating that they don't want to be a hermit nation.
That they don't want to be a hermit nation anymore.
They're trying to do some things.
And it under Trump's leadership and under.
Hopefully Marco Rubio.
Now, I've had some.
Interesting. Fighting with Marco Rubio when I was in Florida,
he was the speaker of the House when he was in the Florida legislature,
and we had to run some.
Counseling by him about some of his more social
proclivities, and I think he's matured to a point now.
He's pretty young 20 years ago, but he's an interesting person.
I hope that he surrounds himself with really smart people
in the diplomatic world, in the in the foreign policy world.
Tom Cotton said that we don't want our interest.
We don't want our interests threatened, and we don't want our alliances
that we have with people stressed, and we don't want our honors stained.
And we don't want our adversaries tempted to be adventurous
and aggressive toward us or our allies.
How do you go about doing that?
How do you become?
How do you nurture countries or allow them to be nurtured
when they're very rigid and hierarchical and disruptive?
And so, you know, we play the economic card, we play the military card,
we play the diplomatic card, and then we can isolate them too as well.
But American foreign policy, from what I'm hearing from people around the world.
And these are these are people.
My classmates are not this and not 20 year old.
You're 70 year old.
These are people in the government.
These are people in the agencies.
These are people that are running big businesses like Ty Airways
is one of my classmates.
He's the president Ty Airways.
And so, you know, he has a grip on that whole Vietnam,
Laos, Cambodia, and of course, all the problems that they're having
in Burma right now are starting to spill backwards.
And that's a that's a dangerous situation with the Myanmar problem.
But what they ask is, is this.
And I got this from three or four different places, Indonesia and Thailand
and and Hong Kong still have classmates that live in Hong Kong,
even though it's under China's rule.
Do we have the ability to recognize, assimilate and exploit?
Our knowledge to all nations to demonstrate how we socialize,
how our socialization is better than an alternative world like communism
or socialism or or dictatorships.
Do we have that ability to do that?
And I honestly don't know, because I don't know.
Who's going to be flushed out of our our foreign affairs committees,
who's going to be flushed out of the State Department?
Who's going to come in behind them?
Who is going to replace that now?
You remember President Nixon?
Got Kissinger to open up China, and he really Kissinger did not open China.
The person that opened up China for Nixon was US Senator Mike Mansfield.
Nobody believes that, but I was Mansfield's
a military, I was his.
OK, I was his high pie spy in the State Department in Southern
and the Pacific Command.
He was the ambassador to Japan and he was there for 12 years.
The President Carter appointed him.
He was kept on by Reagan.
I mean, it's just amazing his his longevity.
But he opened China and nobody knows this, but he spoke Chinese fluently.
And on his right arm is the red dragon tattoo.
And on his left arm, of course, is the Marine Corps insignia
because he was a Marine.
But he understood China better than anybody.
But he quietly worked behind the scenes, let Kissinger take all the credit.
But to this day, he's still very revered in Japan and in Asia,
because he did a lot of back and forth with China and Korea and Japan.
But he has theory of foreign policy,
and he's a fascinating guy to talk to, by the way, he's quite the professor.
When he talks, you better listen.
He thought that for far too long,
American foreign policy was a game in which we would put a little bit of money
on most of the numbers on the roulette wheel and hope for the best
to bring in a huge win.
And when that didn't work out, we would go into a global popularity contest
through the use of handouts of foreign aid, indiscriminate handouts of foreign aid
and technical assistance and military training
that only allowed potential ruthless dictators to exist.
We forgot to be sensitive about the dignity of the poor
and assist new nations that are hungry for ideas about being industrious.
And that was that was quite an interesting thought.
And he left. I have all his I had all of his papers,
85 boxes of papers, and he wanted it all reduced into a really good biography.
I spent a year just trying to organize and catalog all this stuff.
And finally, I turned it over to a PhD dissertation student
who wanted to write about that and let her do it, because
it just it's overwhelming that one man could be in the government that long
and have that kind of influence on so many people.
This is a side. He's the one that encouraged and begged
Lyndon Johnson to become the vice president under Kennedy.
And I asked him one time, I said, why would you do that?
He said, well, of course, you know why I did it, because because
Lyndon Johnson was the Senate Majority Leader.
He said, if he became the vice president, I moved up.
I got to become the Senate Majority Leader.
He said, and that's the job I've always wanted.
I said, OK, that's kind of cool.
But wow, you did all that.
He said, yeah, I did all that.
OK, does having a foreign policy that makes economic
and political understanding to Americans.
Is that something that is going to be a good thing?
Do we really want the American population to understand?
Our American foreign policy
and in a global world today, as connected as we all are,
I think we have to have that.
I think we have got to educate.
America, as well as our allies and our friends and neighbors and everybody else.
I see that there's some of them are going to Mar-a-Lago to get an education.
Immediately, because they have no idea
what's going to happen under the new Trump regime,
because it is not a learning curve for him anymore.
He's had four years to think about everything and everybody
and do what he's doing right now.
Remember, one of the most important things that we have in foreign policy,
and of course, any policy, is, how do you?
Unknown unknowns.
What are they and when do we find out?
And Rumsfeld used to tell us all that in the military.
He says, what are the unknown unknowns?
And that's a very interesting question.
And I don't think even a chat GPT AI is going to answer that question.
But if.
That understanding of unknown unknowns enables us to treat.
Foreign policy as a viable strategy for organizing people and sharing ideas,
rather than writing them off as inept and ungrateful.
That would be very interesting.
It is possible huge ramifications of how we work, how we learn, where we live,
what our policies are that leads us to help.
What is it? What's America in business for?
We're in business to help other people and not become.
Conquerors, per se.
Now, I know we're still in Japan and we're still in Korea,
but they're not we're not considered occupiers there.
We're considered a reliable friend and economic helper and stabilizer.
It's quite fascinating.
And I live in it and I live in those two worlds.
I mean, you know, I mean, I live in Japan.
I was 18 years old and graduated from high school.
I immediately went to Hong Kong and went to KG5 for the summer to to learn
proper English, because I did not really speak English well.
And so when you go to KG5, you learn, I guess, with the king.
Yeah, I know the Queen's English at the time.
Then I went from there to Vietnam to the war in our work,
our Baptist hospital up in Dalat.
Because I wanted to be a medical doctor, not a doctorate of education.
It doesn't matter.
The thing is, as I traveled from there around the world and I spent a year
traveling and meeting other classmates and things and seeing things.
And I got to America, went to a good college to learn,
to really understand English.
Because in my head, I still dream in Japanese at night.
And when my identical twin brother was badly wounded in the war
we were on the operating table.
We only spoke in Japanese so that he would be back in calmness
and help his brain refunction.
So I live in this very strange world of languages and cultures.
And I try to see everything about foreign policy
and political military policy that I can.
The former administrations.
Denigrated the gold of economic reform in favor of an entitlement society.
They lessened our desirability to strengthen our influence abroad,
and they facilitated the loss of effectiveness of global matters.
And they created divisiveness among races, religions,
creeds and identity of Americans.
And that has made our foreign policy.
A joke.
And people look forward to having a change
because it is time for a change.
I'll leave it at that.
Charles, over to you.
OK, David, thank you so much
for sharing your thoughts.
It's it's challenging without the video.
We'd love to see your face, but so be it.
We can cope with not seeing your face.
We are very flexible in this group.
And the issues you raise are nice and challenging.
And while Stephen is going to go for the next 15 minutes on questioning,
one matter that I wish to raise in your experience with politicians
is relevant to the Rainer Fulmi case.
I'll put some links into the chat for everybody.
And he was unlawfully kidnapped by the Mexican government
at the behest of the German government, and he's been undergoing a show trial
since October 30 last year.
And Jerome Causse has told us in this group
to shine a light on legal cases as they're happening.
Don't go the silence route.
And just this morning, I got an email from a Singapore doctor, Iris Ko,
who's being who's being persecuted by the Singaporean government in a court case.
And Jerome tells us and I say, and I'm a former lawyer,
that we should shine a light on every case so that the courts
and the so the courts know they're being watched
and the politicians know they're being watched.
What's your view on this specific issue of shining a light on legal cases
to ensure proper due process?
Well, yes, the light needs to be shined
and it needs to be done in a very specific manner
so that the courts don't shut it down, you know, shut the light off.
And shut go into a closed session.
But we do it in the name of
it's justice that the world is looking at.
And we want to look at you as a country that has a judicial system
that is fair and honorable.
One of the things
that I have seen and we have we look at
I'm the author of the RISIA study and the RISIA study is
we analyze a country, we look at one thousand eight hundred factors in a country.
And believe it or not, they're crunched into data fusion
and they tell us a lot about that country.
One of the most one of the things that we will look at is their judicial system.
How many, how long, how they appointed, were they there,
what did they publish, how they written, how open are the reports?
And we see that closed court systems are very dangerous.
And this whole thing with the German government working with Mexico, that that is so.
Alien to
not just Americans, but it's alien to people who who want a better
justice system.
And of course, our justice system is completely warped.
I mean, it's just.
It's total madness.
All these trials.
I know I have a lot of marine friends who were in the Marine Corps
with Daniel Penny, and they were very, very happy that he was found innocent.
But they're very upset that he even got into this court system in the first place.
And so and how open was that?
And, you know, the police let him go.
And then 10 days later, because people are screaming in the streets,
oh, he killed a man of color.
We've got to arrest him.
That doesn't bode well for our legal system.
And so when we try to open that light and shine light on that,
and then they say people come back to us and say, look at your own legal system.
Look how corrupted it has become.
So we're I'm not saying we're hypocrites, but I'm saying that we have got to fix
our problem first.
But those legal cases and there's some in Japan where people have been arrested.
Singapore is a very.
I have a lot of classmates in Singapore, and they're actually
afraid to spend too much time in their own country.
That's just why they're always on the road going elsewhere,
because if you make an error, you get arrested.
Yep. Yep.
So so, David, what I'm hearing you say in in summary is, yes,
shine the light, but don't take the court system as much as pushing for
justice and fair due process.
Is that a fair comment?
I think it's a fair comment.
Thank you. All right, Stephen, next 15 minutes are yours.
Yeah. So, David,
I'll just fix on your empty screen.
So I wanted to ask you about.
So I'm in the United Kingdom.
Charles likes to say I'm from Wales, but Wales is not a country.
It's a principality.
And so United Kingdom is where I'm from.
And so in March 2020,
it appeared to me that there was a global coup d'etat.
Do you agree that that was the case?
And where did it come from?
And who organized it all? Do you know?
Are you speaking about the administration changeover?
What do you know? I'm talking about the lockdowns.
On that.
Carla, Dan had the paper
I wrote about the emergence of Covid and Wuhan flu as a bio warfare agent.
And it was the trigger
for the lockdown and shutdown.
And basically, if you want to call it a coup d'etat,
it's a it wrecked the economic system, it wrecked our education system,
it wrecked a lot of businesses.
It destroyed 100,000 combat trained.
Military people.
Because they refused to take the they refused to take the vaccine.
So, I mean, basically, it it it just tore America apart.
I mean, it just the school system.
Now, Texas was smart.
They wouldn't shut down.
And so we haven't suffered the the losses in reading and writing
arithmetic. Chicago schools.
There is no fifth grader that can pass a math test.
The zero pass rate because they shut down for two years.
It was. Yeah, that's not a bad idea.
A coup, a global coup d'etat.
And my friends in China who work with this project
and sent me information and I wrote this paper for the ODNI, Ratcliffe.
And I've got it declassified now.
I sent it to Dan to read and to Carla Dean to read.
It was a weapon.
It's a potential weapon of mass destruction.
And the Chinese.
Have an interesting theory.
If you have an accident, you don't rush to to fix it.
You kind of stand back and see, where's it going?
What happens?
And so they let it happen and it expanded.
I've heard from different sources and I haven't confirmed this all down,
but over 100 million people.
Died in China.
From the Wuhan flu.
Well, you'd never know it, and it may be more,
but it doesn't with a population of one point three billion,
one point one billion people, you know, 100, 200 million people missing.
It's not going to be a big deal with them.
But I think it was the episode of opening the door
to overthrowing a lot of nations and weakening them.
Point of absolutely agree.
Yeah, I agree. So.
But it was also treason, wasn't it?
People allowed this to happen in their own countries.
And they should know about you should be about you should be arrested for treason.
Yeah, I agree. Things are going to happen to him.
Of course, Biden is going to give blanket pardons to about a thousand people.
You watch.
He will blanket pardon people from that have been involved in
wheeling and dealing
in things that they should not have been wheeling and dealing in.
Yeah.
So you think he's going to give a pardon to Anthony Fauci?
Is that right? Absolutely. He has to.
But the problem is, you know, one of his
the HHS secretary is going to be
Robert Kennedy, Jr., and he's written a definitive book, as I understand it,
on Anthony Fauci's crimes.
So how's that going to how's that going to work out?
Oh, no.
Kennedy is a very fascinating person.
Let me tell you, I I wish I.
I wish I knew more about him, but.
Hey, Jerry Brady's right, it is a bioweapon, by the way,
and I'll I'll try to send this paper out again.
Kennedy, though, is.
Who does Kennedy like best of all?
He likes Robert F.
Kennedy, Jr. best of all, he likes himself.
So I kind of I don't harbor any suspicions to him,
but I'm going to be watching him very closely, very closely.
Yeah, because he's interfering in a gigantic empire
called pharmaceutical big pharma.
Yeah, so it seems so I'm a medical doctor, so I understood that it was
the best way to characterize what happened in March 2020,
which was pretty shocking to me, was that because all of a sudden
everyone I knew was arranged against me, like even my own
sons, my three sons and my wife were arranged against me.
It took me about six weeks to convince my sons
and the best way to get their heads around it was to tell them
this is an intentional global coup d'etat
and that people in America and the UK who should have known better
went along with it for whatever reason.
And it was absolutely outrageous.
However you characterized it, it was completely outrageous.
And it seemed to me that it was a very, very, very, very
to me absolutely obvious in the midst of all the lies
that surrounded the emergence of the so-called virus.
By the way, I don't think that the gain of function
propaganda that we've been fed is true.
I don't think any of it's true.
I think it was all a pack of lies
from a medical point of view.
And they were working up to this.
They were trying to boost the status, if you like, of possible
pandemics in the future for 40 years, as I understand it.
So it started with the HIV AIDS
fraud and and continued all the way up to 2020.
Virology had to be boosted and immunology
undermined and evidence based medicine had to be introduced
to create a tyranny and without doctors
realizing that that was what was happening.
And it was always obvious to me that
the evidence based medicine was always going to lead to a tyranny.
You can't ask autonomous doctors or tell them to follow protocols.
That was wrong.
And anyone who promoted that idea was, in my opinion, part of the plan
to achieve what they did in March 2020, which was entirely shocking.
And then doctors made things even worse by promoting vaccines,
which and they had no idea what was in the dam vaccines.
So there was no possibility of informed consent.
And guess what? They were telling me not to talk about the Nuremberg trials
and and the Nuremberg code,
which was about human medical experimentation and what occurred in 2020
and 2021 was, yeah, human medical experimentation.
You may say, well, the
vaccination program didn't start till the end of December.
Sorry, December of 2020 in the UK.
And the first patient was called, guess what?
William Shakespeare.
It was just incredible.
And now I'm left thinking, what on earth was the last five years about?
It seems like a cultural revolution to me, where people were essentially
persuaded to believe things which didn't make sense.
But instead of concluding that that was the purpose,
they thought it was due to mistakes.
I think it was entirely their aim to create confusion.
The Ukraine war was confusing.
The Israel Hamas war, in inverted commas, was confusing.
It was intended to be.
And the best way to destabilize human beings from a doctor's point of view
is to get them to accept things that never made sense.
So for for example, the cultural revolution of a mouth,
say tongue from 66 to 76.
People were asked, as I've been led to believe, to kill 20 flies a day.
Chinese citizens were asked to kill 20 flies a day to make China cleaner.
And they did it.
In the in the in the UK, we had the spectacle of the BBC
encouraging people to go on their front doorsteps every Thursday evening
in 2020 to clap for the cult of the NHS,
the devilish cult of the NHS National Health Service, which I had worked for.
Yeah. So anyway, I just wondered whether you got any comments on that diatribe.
You were talking about how long have we his research been underway.
And, you know, the Chinese, the two Chinese colonels that published
unrestricted warfare, it got actually translated in 1999.
We've been reading it.
They actually laid out the whole plan that, you know, they would use
viruses and stuff as bio bio and chemical warfare instruments of mass destruction.
I mean, they've been planning this since 1999.
And they got the breakthroughs through with Fauci's funding at NIH
and putting all the research into the SARS virus and which expanded in.
I have one of my classmates is a very, very
well known bio research.
He's a medical doctor. He's a bio research PhD.
And he deals with viral viruses.
And and he said this thing was designed as a weapon.
And then they let it happen.
And just to see what would happen.
But the the the the two colonels
going Liang and Jiangsu, they wrote it.
And they explained that the first rule, there are going to be no rules
and nothing was forbidden.
That was their opening gambit in that book, Unrestricted Warfare.
There was no forbidden and these are Chinese generals, were they David?
They are two Chinese colonels.
Yeah. Right.
So the question is, was China behind the takedown of the West, should we say?
But the whole world, essentially,
was China behind this so that they control the world if
was that their aim?
Were they trying to export to the totalitarianism, which they now practice?
Is that right?
I mean, we've got totalitarianism in in the UK now.
And I think you have in the US as well.
Yeah. From October 2021 to May of 2023,
I couldn't go to the US because I wasn't vaccinated.
And everyone agrees all around the world that that that
the medical apartheid was wrong after South Africa.
Sorry, apartheid was wrong.
But when medical apartheid was practiced in the United States of America,
nobody thought that was strange.
I know.
In Texas, we didn't wear masks.
But if I crossed over the border into New Mexico, I had to be
masked up and gloved up because New Mexico.
Oh, my God. It was the end of the war.
Of course, they're a Democrat socialist state, believe it or not.
They they're just they're so radical.
Of course, when we outlawed abortion in Texas,
New Mexico, state of New Mexico built a 10 million dollar abortion center
on the border of Texas and New Mexico so that all the girls from Texas
could go there if they wanted to.
Some of these state Hawaii is a complete socialist Marxist state.
I mean, they they produced two very interesting people so far.
One tried to assassinate Trump and the other assassinated a health care
executive when they were all in Hawaii and under the same influence
of what's going on over there.
So there are the United States is now compartmentalized.
And I hate to say the word polarized because that's the Webster
dictionary word of the year.
Of course, in the Oxford English dictionary, it's been used since,
you know, 1703.
So I don't know why they think it's a new word.
But anyway, we're polarized.
Absolutely. Because it seems to me that the world consists
of a collection of cults, deadly cults.
Yes. Oh, yeah. Well, nobody seems to have this
broad view of the world.
And they're discussing things within the paradigm.
They've always thought of instead of thinking,
well, what the heck is going on?
You know, this doesn't make sense.
And psychological torture of populations around the world
by their own governments, isolating people, you don't isolate people.
Every doctor in the world should have known that.
We're highly social animals and the lockdowns were cruel
and should have been known to be cruel before they were instituted.
Yeah. So anyway,
even I'm just very I guess I'm lucky and very fortunate to live
in a state that, you know, we didn't buy into any of that stuff.
And so we kept our schools open.
We kept our colleges open.
The only people today wearing masks and wearing gloves.
Our African-American people in Texas,
it's a very strange phenomena.
And I ask them why, they said, oh, for health reasons, for health reasons.
They still think that the virus is out there to get them.
I just they have been indoctrinated by the wrong people.
Let me tell you.
So from a medical doctor's point of view,
and people, doctors are beginning to agree with me now.
I thought there was no disease called COVID-19.
Even that was a lie.
But there certainly wasn't a pandemic.
And in my view, there's no possibility of a pandemic in the future.
So they're using that as the means to control people globally.
They see that as the best way to get to world government, in my view.
And yeah, they're probably right.
You know, fear of death, especially in the Western world.
Is defines what people do.
And avoiding death gives them the excuse to do anything they want.
And they, you know, the decline of the church, the family.
And the nation state is very serious, in my view.
I don't know, David, I'd really like to ask you,
do you think the Chinese Communist Party
was planning to take down the United States from the inside and the UK,
to a lesser extent, maybe, from the inside?
And this was the best way that they saw.
And then there were other people in Big Pharma who saw an opportunity
for business, you know, a big business for them.
Well, they don't want to go to war with us.
The Chinese do not want a...
I realize that. Yeah, I absolutely agree.
So but the point is, are they are they in taking part
in a in a in a war against the United States now?
By the back door?
And why have we got so many traitors in America?
Why are these people not called to account?
David, that's well over 15 minutes now.
Well, yeah, but it's rather an important question, Charles.
So maybe you can let that go.
They are working very diligently.
I mean, we've just Arkansas just threw them out of the state of Arkansas.
We have a bill in front of our legislature right now to take away
the land that the Chinese have bought around some of our military bases
and our farmers fields that we're
we want them out of our state.
We want the Arkansas has already thrown them out.
Yeah, but no, there's no talk from even Trump about the
the treachery within the United States.
Well, the military taking down...
There will be, I guarantee you, there will be.
There will be the the people that he's put in as the ODNI
and CIA and FBI and NSA.
There will be.
There will be a day of reckoning coming very soon.
Well, I'm not even sure that Trump understands what's happened.
I'm not even sure that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. does.
So we've had a lot of people on this channel.
We have twice weekly meetings and we've had very brilliant people,
but they're isolated.
They're not going to be chosen by Trump because Trump doesn't even know about them.
And the Trump administration doesn't know about them.
But I could put him in touch with them.
Well, Trump is being advised by some very smart people.
Well, you know, and Bondi is very smart.
And I work with Pam Bondi for years and years in Florida.
We ran to Sanchez's campaign.
We ran campaigns for people.
Let me tell you, that is that is I'm not afraid of anything.
I've been in five wars.
I've been everywhere and done everything.
I'm afraid of her. Let me tell you, I do not cross her.
I'm very respectful for her because she is she is something else.
Let me tell you. What's her name?
Pam Bondi, she's going to be the attorney general.
All right. OK. You respect her or you don't?
I respect her very much.
She's a very smart, very strong woman.
So is she going to mend the justice system in America, do you think?
I'm sorry, say that again.
You think she'll do anything about the justice system in America?
Absolutely.
Do you think she'll encourage the UK to get a better justice system?
It's impossible to get justice in this country now.
And by the way, what is your stomach?
I think as America as America goes,
a lot of countries follow suit because they see the results.
So I will.
I will watch that very, very carefully,
but I think a lot of people are going to change their tunes and they're going to
they're going to be watching Cash Patel, for example.
They're going to be watching Ratcliffe, he's CIA.
He was the ODNI.
And I asked him, I said, do you think you're coming down in the world?
You used to run the CIA.
You used to be in, you know, they were under you.
And now you're under, you know, Kelsey Gabber.
He says, don't worry, we're all going to work together as one unified team
and we're going to.
So what worries me, important changes,
Steven,
I'll say this last thing, Charles.
David, what worries me is that people like you
might be struggling to get Trump's ear and they should be listening to you.
Why? Because you you know, 11 languages and you've lived all over the world.
I understand what that means, because I've lived in five countries.
I wouldn't say you'll be happy to know I have two nieces that have been
called to Mar-a-Lago for interviews.
Good. Excellent.
I'll say no more than that.
I will say no more than that.
Thank you. And they're both and they're both attorneys.
Excellent.
Go for it. You're there.
You got that's great to hear, David.
And thank you. Thank you, Steven.
Now, Steven, you need to know that I have to I've got a meeting
starting in 10 minutes after pop out for but I will pop back in. All right.
So when I pop out, you can handle the questions as usual.
But here we have four hands up so far, David.
So first, we have Amy. Hi, Amy.
How are you doing? Very good.
So I just I'm very concerned that you're not seeming to mention anything
about Israel and Israel's influence on the United States.
I see that you were an aide to to Lyndon Johnson,
who took over when our president was assassinated,
very likely with the help of Mossad.
And the you know, that USS Liberty was attacked by Israel under Lyndon Johnson.
And yet we still don't have a full, thorough investigation of that.
Candace Owens just interviewed one of the survivors,
and that's getting millions of views.
So thank God for that.
Americans are finding out that Israel was allowed to attack
and murder our service personnel and get away with it.
And they were told to be silent, which is absolutely against
everything our country is supposed to stand for.
So I'm super concerned, especially talking about like Huckabee
and you're being a Baptist and the unfortunate reality
that the majority of Baptists in this country have been heavily influenced
by the satanic heresy called Christian Zionism,
where there's this belief that helping turn, you know,
genocide, the Palestinians will somehow please Christ
and bring Christ his second coming,
which is absolutely abhorrent and counter to everything Christ taught.
And so I guess I'm just saying I'm not hearing any awareness
of this huge issue for America.
Syria has just been sacked with the use of the United States military,
the Turkish military, the Israeli military and even help from Ukraine.
You know, you'd think they'd be kind of busy fighting a war,
you know, for their soil and they're recruiting older and older men
for their chewed up army, just totally devastated country.
And yet they're having time to send advisors to go take over
and kick out the government of Syria. That's really interesting to me.
But it does fit my map.
And I just don't see any awareness of the problem of Zionism
in this country where the president or the prime minister comes to this country
and he gets 57 standing ovations.
Benjamin Netanyahu and all of the Congress people are afraid
to say anything about Israel or they'll be treated like Cynthia McKinney,
Scott Bowman, I think his name was Earl Hilliard.
All these people who tried to speak up for our interests as Americans
and protect our country are canceled and there get smeared
and they get primaried.
And worse, worse has happened to people who tried to tell the truth,
including, I think, John F. Kennedy.
So anyway, that's I mean, it's kind of a comment, but I guess I just,
you know, do you have any concern with Mike Huckabee being an insane Zionist
and abusing his position in the United States government
to promote his insane eschatological beliefs
that are totally insensitive to the fact that there's a death camp
for 2.2 million people where people are being slaughtered in broad daylight
and videotaped and shown to the world.
And that's being done with our political cover and our weapons and our treasury.
And we are dwindling down our treasury.
So these are my concerns.
I know maybe I'm out of step here.
Amy, you've you've asked the question for David's response.
That's a big question to ask David. Absolutely.
The most powerful intelligence agencies in the world,
the people that gather the best intelligence of the world, of course, is the Vatican.
The second most powerful is a Mossad.
And the third most powerful, of course, is the American intelligence bureaucracy.
So they talk to each other.
And I almost get the feeling when I'm dealing with some of those people
that we do not want to upset the Israeli Mossad
because they give us too much stuff that we want and need.
Now, my classmates that are with Israelis
and they because their parents were in the embassy and they would go to our school.
I know that they went into that system.
They're they're fascinating.
They're very close hold people.
And there's a lot going on in the world and Israel that we don't know about.
And I don't know if we're afraid to find out or we don't want to find out or we can't find out.
And but I will definitely express
the concern you just mentioned about Mike Huckabee, because he and I talk directly.
In fact, we yell at each other sometimes.
I mean, I am not afraid of him and he's not afraid of me, but he knows
that I know the things that can help him.
And he's a. He's a he's.
He'll have to be very careful, by the way, I go to his church in Texarkana, Arkansas,
and when he was a minister at for, well, it's been 30 years ago, but he he's a.
He's a fascinating person and will be watching him very carefully, very carefully.
Good. Thank you.
That confirms my concern that you have this insane
Christian Zionist philosophy that's going to get us all killed.
So I'll pray for you. God bless.
Well, Amy, why don't you try another approach and give a little bit of encouragement
where it's due and with someone to someone who actually can influence things, hopefully.
Well, also, it would be great to have proof that the Vatican is more powerful than Israel.
That's really exciting.
How come the Pope doesn't get 57 standing ovations
and they don't primary people and the church is slandered for mass graves in Canada?
All right. All right. Billions of dollars.
So I know there's no time.
I know we're not going into the debate.
You asked the question. It's good because these are big questions, Amy.
OK, see you guys.
So hang on. Hang on. For goodness sake. Hang on.
No, that's the question answer.
But we have a three hour debate on this one issue.
So we haven't got time to do that because we've got a lot of hands up.
Mark. Hi, David.
Thanks for that.
This was really interesting.
And again, what you have to say, one of my major concerns is the whole virus.
Not basically it was a nonsense.
And, you know, the 5G switch on in Wuhan causes the pulmonary edema.
We know that electromagnetic radiation causes these flu type symptoms.
However, the injection was a biological chemical weapon.
The COVID-19 vaccines attractor is termination technology.
We've actually found in London
a transport network.
I'm currently got a tribunal in March, right?
Where transport for London have actually deployed a laser detection
range and radar, what's called fusion battlefield fusion technology.
So you should know about that.
These are very, very dangerous technologies that have been deployed
on transport networks.
And not only that, what we did find out was actually one of the high speed
modern inside this transport for London piece of hardware is Chinese.
So we've got a Chinese model in the biometrics of people who've been injected
with a biometric sensing technology, a track trace termination technology
that was developed by the Department of Defense.
These were daughter
military technologies that were developed to track wet on the battlefield.
And we now see them injected in 40 million of my countrymen, women and children.
I think about 200 million Americans have had it injected into them.
And every single one of those people are at significant risk of death
because it can be tracked, traced and terminate with technologies
that's been deployed right across the whole estate.
That's the US as well as the UK.
And we actually have the evidence of this.
I mean, my government tried to gag me in 2018 when I discovered
that what 5G was, it was a directional weapon system
and not a telecommunications network.
And we have it right across all of these countries, mainly Chinese technology.
So you've got a Chinese technology and a Chinese control technology
that's actually designed to target acquire people
who received an injection that was developed at a BSL for weapons lab in Wuhan.
I mean, this, you know, from an intelligence perspective,
well, I'm concerned that the CIA must know what's going on.
I do agree with you.
The Vatican's intelligence agencies are far more adept
than what the CIA or military intelligence are.
I've already reported this.
There was a full Cobra meeting in the United Kingdom over my concerns
when I found a target acquisition electronic assault weapon found in a street light.
So it was a full full Cobra meeting and what they did, absolutely zero.
So they're zero about in fact,
Boris Johnson spoke with the United Nations
specifically about the what I've discovered in the streetlights
and where I live in Gateshead.
I got our technology removed.
This technology came from China.
It's connected to the injections.
And what I want to find out is why all the intelligence is asleep
because the monitor me 24 seven.
So they know exactly what I'm saying.
And if you know anything about gateway, you know,
of universal forces make no mistake about it.
They know that I know what's going on.
That's what they can get the head round.
That's how certain individuals have this information.
It's universal. It's called gateway.
CIA developed the technology so that, you know, we all see these
universal things and see these patterns.
So what I kind of understand, if the intelligence agencies know
what I definitely know, why aren't they doing anything about it?
Why aren't the war in the general population that there's an electronic
assault weapon being deployed on top of them that's going to kill them
in the near term?
That's what I want to.
That's what I want to find out, because the kind of deny
this equipment exists because they developed it.
Well, you know what?
Analysts and people that are below the top leadership,
a lot of them know a lot of all this stuff and they write the papers
and they submit it.
And the people that are running the top of the agencies are doing nothing about it.
And if they do report it to Biden, it just goes in one ear
and out his other dementia here.
And of course, you know, Obama is really running the government, you know,
and, you know, Susan Rice and Obama and Hillary, they were all the junta.
It's a cartel.
And I don't think that Biden gets a lot of this stuff.
And I talked to analysts, you know, at my level, and they they're just
they're just wringing their hands because they can't get up.
They can't get their message up the chain of command.
So that'll change very, very soon.
Very soon.
Fingers crossed. I hope that Scott McCullough is
he's very adept in relation to these electronic weapon systems.
And he did work with RFK.
And I have spoken on a number of CHD events.
So hopefully, RFK knows exactly what's going on.
And we can do something about this, because believe you me,
we are all at risk from this technology.
Mark, why don't you send David your your
researchers?
You have to do that.
Yeah, David wants to give us his contact.
He doesn't. I can send them all the intelligence information.
5G, fifth generation warfare was actually developed by the
by the US military.
And 5G is just 5G, the the electronic assault weapons program,
also mainly developed by the US military and defense industry.
And that technology being taken to China and given to China
so that these technologies can be deployed
all over the West. Yeah.
And I think it's true, isn't it, Mark, that while the 5G
lampposts were being installed in the UK, all over the UK
during the nights of lockdowns,
when nobody saw they hoped that nobody saw this going on.
It was it was also happening in New York State and other states in America.
I discovered the the the the transport for London technology.
They've got a laser detection range in technology.
It's extremely dangerous. It causes cataracts. Yeah.
Went from 400 400 cataracts were reported in the UK
prior to the switch on.
It was 15000 last year from the switch on of a technology
that causes cataracts.
We've got to fully weaponize in the transport network.
The whole plan is to take everybody out of their personal vehicles
so that they can be trapped into these 15 minute cities.
The whole C 40 15 minute city.
It's an extermination camp.
It's the Nazi regime, the fourth right
coming from the world economic forum.
And it seems every single country in the world is jumping to that tune.
Needs to be stopped. We've got to stop these criminals.
Yes, I agree.
So, Mark, why don't you send your research to David?
The results of your research to David, because he's.
I would like to have that.
I have a I can I can I'll read it, adjust it and pass it to the right.
I've got a sub stack.
There's a there's a sub stack at save us.
Save us now.
I set up a political movement to try and give me some protection,
some political protection.
There's this is what I was in 2018.
I was putting stuff in the public domain and saying that the government
was trying to kill us.
Obviously, it doesn't go down very well.
So what I did, I set up a political party called Save Us Now.
That's here. Now there's a sub stack.
All of the data is there.
But if you if you make contact, you get any intelligence groups
or any of your intelligence agents who want this information.
I have it.
I have high speed, a Chinese high speed modem
in a laser detection ranging weapon system.
24 laser diodes in the front of a gun,
which transport from London says a camera that weapon system will kill.
It's actually linked with the lanthanide contamination
that was actually injected into people.
Forty and 40 million of my countrymen, women and children
are walking around with an injection
that can be connected to that weapon system.
And in America, it's 200 million.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
So Mark, send us.
So, yeah, I don't think we will.
Maybe David would read your sub stack.
But the point is that if you have direct contact with him, then you.
Well, David, if you want to send us a message and send us your email
and I'll send you or directly send you some information.
In fact, if you want to watch the five G apocalypse documentary,
I already knew there was a deep population agenda.
The intelligence document showed they're going to kill billions across the planet.
Yeah. And so I've always been aware of that.
I was aware of that in 2017 because of the, you know, the weapons,
the hardware weapons organization, Diego,
where it shows this massive depopulation agenda.
So I've always been aware and I was trying to wonder how they were going to achieve that.
Well, now I know the plan. I've got the plan.
And believe you me, there's about six billion people across the planet
or it's serious risk of survivability due to these weapons.
Sure. Anyway, I think you've sown the seeds, David, Mark.
So Sebastian Zariel in Switzerland, I think, is that right?
Yes, but I see my time to change.
Sebastian is accompanied by a very talkative cat.
No, she's not here.
But please, Jerome, please go, go, go ahead of me.
And as Eric's and also thanks.
So, Jerome, we're giving you time to him.
Well, we'd like to hear from you, Mr. Bass. Go on, Jerome.
Sorry.
Oh, Jerome's not there.
Right here. I said and put on the video.
Hold on. There we go.
Well, they're not the policy. How are you doing, David?
David, good to see you, David. David.
Fascinating discussion.
I'd like to have a comment on the following.
I think with the election of Donald Trump, we've gotten a reprieve.
I think the country has rejected this agenda.
We have decided that we're going to return back to traditional values.
I know we have a lot of work to do, and I know that
Donald Trump is going to be at the job differently this time,
because he's much more experienced.
I'd like to for people to understand that results are going to take.
I mean, how results are going to take time?
I think there's going to be immediate action and time.
But you made some comments about patience.
And I'd like to we're not going to reverse
all these years since Obama in 20 minutes.
I like your thoughts on what we see unfolding
in terms of Donald Trump's getting control of the bureaucracy
and restoring traditional values and restoring peace in the world
as his primary objective.
So let me make that an open ended question.
Get your reaction.
Hey, Jerome, why don't you ask me something easy?
I didn't expect you wanted a softball question.
You know what?
He's a very interesting guy because it just
just the fact that my two nieces who are pretty powerful
lawyers were asked to come to Mar-a-Lago to have discussions.
I'm going like he is bringing people in that have.
They're educated, they're highly educated.
I mean, you know, they're the they went to Yale and Princeton.
But the thing is, they've also spent time down in the ranks
and they they talk to people constantly.
I mean, one thing that.
I would like to have a little credit for is I thought
I have a degree in journalism, so I always hammered my nieces
and nephews and my own kids
last the five most important questions who want what and what or how it will.
OK, and then when you get that information, then let's see how the law applies.
And I think Trump has already started telling people,
you better start asking the right questions and you better find out
the right answers, because we have run this last four years
without anybody asking the right questions, without anybody following up on it.
It's like this information and what you're talking about,
this 5G system that we're just talking about, you know, this stuff exists.
The lower level people know it exists.
We've been trying to get it up the chain, the food chain.
And I think another thing that Trump told him, he says.
Shut up and listen.
You know, and that's going to be hard for Tulsi to do that.
She likes to talk, but on the other hand, she likes to listen to.
I mean, she was a very interesting person in the Hawaii National Guard,
which is the most socialist Marxist state, you know, in the union.
So it's going to be fascinating if they will just listen to what kind of push
up to them.
And be patient with the people that are trying to get to you and talk to you,
then we're going to have a very fascinating change of government.
Ideas and leadership, and it will not be defined by your DEI experience
and all this other stuff.
It will be defined by house.
What do you know?
And who did you listen to?
And how did you discern who was telling you the truth and who is just, you know,
must and mums make up stuff and make up more stuff?
Absolutely.
Those are vital questions, David.
Can I add one more?
David, through the Stephen Frost Group, I've gotten to work with Archbishop
Vigano, as I'm sure you know, and he wrote me a very, very serious letter
and set of recommendations to be passed on.
I'm going to pass them on to you.
At the beginning of the week, and I think we're dealing universally with a deep
church in a deep state.
Yeah, I'm very, very profound thinking in what I'm going to communicate to you.
And it needs to reach the highest levels.
And so I think we have an opportunity here to combine a political war, which this
is with the spiritual war, which it fundamentally is.
And if we address it that way and accept some of these overtures coming from the
Archbishop who has been excommunicated, we just last week published his book
about the excommunication, Chacus in Italian in Italy.
And I'm starting to get requests to be interviewed now in the Italian press.
I think we've got a unique opportunity here to expose deep state roots, including
CIA, not only in events to go back to the 1960s, including the assassination of
John F.
Kennedy and the CIA's role in that, which I think is about to be more fully exposed.
The Vatican too, and the progressive revolution in the Catholic Church, the CIA
involvement in the overthrow of Pope Benedict to put in Bergoglio's Pope Francis.
And there's evidence in the Podesta emails that CIA was involved.
I think we're going to see a lot of revelations coming out in the next few
weeks and months, and I'd like to get this bond established, a working relationship
because the Catholic voter was extremely important to electing Trump this past time.
He, Archbishop McGann wrote a message to the Catholic voter, which was widely read
before the election.
And I think there's a real overture here to say we can get these deep state
connections exposed to light and go after them, prosecute them, get rid of them,
including in our voting system.
And I'm going to be working very strongly with the algorithms and with Andrew
Paquette, with the president's team of lawyers.
So there's many different initiatives.
And Carla Dean has been working with me daily.
So we have a lot of things we're going to be bringing forward.
And as we do, the assistance you can give us in making sure they're listened to
and examined, I think we'll establish connections at the level that need to be
established, including with Archbishop Vigano and directly working with
President Trump, they've communicated and worked together before.
And it's been very powerful.
I'd like to encourage that type of relationship to be put in place again.
Thank you.
OK.
And David, I think, you know, with the one recommendation for you, I know
Jerome pretty well now, and he is a genius.
And he's been right about so many things in the past, including President Kennedy's
assassination in the 60s, early 60s.
And also he was Russia gate, the Mueller investigation.
He stopped the Mueller investigation
single handedly by denying, not accepting the plea deal, which the federal
government was offering him and threatening him at the same time with
prison for the rest of his life.
And Jerome said, I will not lie before God and did not accept the plea deal.
And they did not indict him.
So it's not just that there are about six things that I know of that Jerome
has done that I know I trust him as well.
I think he should be if Trump is serious, he should have course on the team.
Well, you know what?
Course, and I did some very interesting work with people who are disturbing
Texas elections with their algorithms and they were flipping things.
I'm an election judge.
And believe you me, we uncovered some unbelievable Harris County Democrats
doing some very bad things.
And we're rounding them.
We'll be rounding them up.
And let me tell you, Abbott was and this Paxson attorney general Paxson was just
livid. I mean, I had people come in to vote and they said, oh no, you voted
in Houston last week.
You know, you voted early and look, we even got your voter ID card.
I mean, they stole all kinds of things with that algorithm.
And so believe you me, they've a lot of people.
We've probably saved about 18,000 votes that could have gone.
David, Jerome was informed about that algorithm in the New York State voting
records, as I understand it.
And he had some interesting discussions about algorithms.
It quickly and brilliantly saw that Andrew Piquet, who did the brilliant
discovery of the came to this conclusion that there were algorithms in the voting
records. He understood that Andrew Piquet was not going to be able to explain this
to the public. And so he got involved and did explain it to a large extent, as I
understand it, to various states, but with a huge amount of work.
But there was a massive struggle to get the information to Trump.
And is that right, Jerome?
Yes, I'm fully assured that Trump now has the information and David has played a
great role in this. We worked together on the algorithms during the election.
David was very, very influential in Texas and has been continuing.
So, Jerome, why don't you get together with David and...
Sorry.
I'll bring up the Archbishop as a new initiative just to alert David that it's
coming.
Sure.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
The point is, David, that Jerome, he's done about six things that I'm aware of,
which separates him from the also-rans.
So clearly, what else could he come up with?
Yeah.
Okay.
Sorry.
I want him to get me on Nino's show.
We could do that, David.
We could do that.
We were watching him this morning, I tell you.
He's...
The prophecies are coming true, let me tell you.
Yeah.
Well, if you want to write a book, he's a publisher too, so...
My manuscript is laying on my desk.
It's all about sovereignty, the issues of sovereignty.
David, why don't you send it to me?
We'll get it in print.
Okay.
I got to clean it up now that we have...
I got to take some things out of it, but I'm not very nice to the Biden,
Harris, Obama, Susan Rice cartel, let me tell you.
Well, their behavior does need calling out, and Jerome would agree, but maybe
you think it's too much even in your mind, yes?
When you're ready, David, let me take a look at it.
We'll give you good advice to get it into print.
So let's go with the next question.
So Mike Johnson says he'll write the forward to it.
I said, no, David, you write it for me and I'll sign it.
I said, okay, Mike, you know, so...
Well, it's not like that's a good deal.
Well, I'm serious about this.
I would like to get your book into print.
Okay.
Well, yeah.
I tell you one thing, Mike Johnson is a power to be reckoned with on himself.
I mean, I know he's the Speaker of the House, but let me tell you, he is locked
in very solid with the Trump and Trump's administration, and he's one of the
smartest guys I ever met.
He even let me write a speech for him.
So, you know, I know he's damn smart, but I'll tell you, he's a constitutional
lawyer, not a criminal lawyer.
He's a constitutional lawyer and you don't want to cross swords with him on that.
Let me tell you.
I had an opportunity very recently to hear him give a speech.
I was quite impressed.
So I'm very favorably impressed by Mike Johnson.
Well, I tell you, it was even more impressive.
His wife, she is smart and she's articulate and she runs that Louisiana
Republican party with an iron will.
Let me tell you.
That's, you know, all they converted everybody in Louisiana to Republican.
I mean, the governor right down to every elected office, it's just an amazing sweep.
It's changed Louisiana completely.
Cause we've been bordered with them and the drug, the fentanyl problem is out
of control in the architects.
And so we've got a pretty good task force now and we're really seizing and
preventing and arresting a lot of people.
So it's a, it's been a real change to have him with the power of being
the speaker of the house.
I like him.
I like him too.
I'm very strong supporter of Mike Johnson.
Good.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for speaking to us, David.
I like your style of kind of, uh, viewing all these problems, but you
keep everything in mind and that's what we need.
There's so few people who can keep the main objective, which is to overcome
this, these evil forces, trying to take our countries, our families and
the church away from us.
Those are the three things which make us all human and make us a powerful
force when we choose to unite and, and fight together.
But anyways, Sebastian, Zahra, I can't quite remember which of those Zahra
is your, is your stage name, isn't it Sebastian?
Yeah, that's, that's my handle for the internet.
Thank you, Steven.
Yeah.
Um, I did say, um, Ms.
Erickson could jump ahead of me, but I'll try and make it as quickly as possible.
Um, first of all, I just liked, you know, asking you to be the speaker
of the room.
First of all, I just liked, you know, ask everyone to please stop calling
the vaccines because the jobs were not vaccines.
They are actually the weapons and not the virus.
I mean, we've been living with, with Corona viruses from humanity,
from humanity started.
So we have to recognize that it was actually the jobs that were the weapons.
Um, and the lockdowns and the lockdown and of course the lockdowns, which is
a biological warfare against all of us.
Yeah.
To, to, um, comment on your remark, why are the smartest people, not the ones
who Trump and the politicians are living, are listening to this is because the
smartest people do not want to be in the limelight.
They want to be in the background.
Some of them, uh, fight for us.
Some of them fight against us.
But, um, as, uh, as Dr.
Bradford has said, as David has said, you know, we have, um, we have some smart
people in the background, you know, trying to help the powers be the good
powers, be fight the good fights.
And we have to try and support them as much as possible.
Um, but it is a constant battle.
And remember, remember that, you know, eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
And that is what we have to be eternally vigilant.
We were not vigilant from 2019, September, 2019.
And look at where we are now.
20, 2030 project, 2030 business has been accelerated to 2025.
Um, and, uh, so they are in a panic and that's good because when you
panic, you make mistakes.
My question to Dr.
Bradford would be, um, first of all, have you ever heard of general
Chin Hao-Tien and his statement from 1994 when he said that the war against
the United States between China and the United States is inevitable.
And, um, the, the, the methods that they would be using, uh, to fight war.
I haven't heard of him, but he, his viewpoints were articulated in that
1999 book written by the two Chinese, his two protege, the two Chinese
colonels that wrote the book called unrestricted warfare.
So we knew we've known it's been coming and we've, we thought we were preparing
for, but, um, that's when I exited federal service and went into, uh, back
into the professorships, but, uh, We, I've seen that report and I've seen it
in, it's in unrestricted warfare.
It was translated and put in there.
So, uh, we know they're, we know they're doing this, but they play the long game.
They know how to play the long game.
I remember they laugh at us that we think we got banks that have been in
business for 200 years and how proud we are of them.
Well, let me tell you, bank of China has been in business for over a thousand years.
So, uh, you know, we're just, we're just newbies to the world game.
And that's what bothers them about us is that we're, we're very powerful.
Uh, but, but we're just new to the game and they play the long, long game and they
do a really interesting job at it.
Let me tell you.
Yeah, I do.
I do reference that in quite a few talks that I have.
Um, with my audience that, uh, the China is, they do play the long game and we have
to realize that they have actually infiltrated the West, whether we want to see it or not
in organizations, for example, like the WEF, you know, with, with Klaus Schwab, even
though he was Henry Kissinger's protege, we do know that Klaus Schwab's son isn't actually
in the leading position in Shanghai, China, uh, heading the WEF over there.
So, um, it is as far as I'm concerned, it's a big farce.
And, uh, no one's really looking behind the curtain.
Um, with that said, this whole, with this whole thing, I'd like to hear your take on
Putin, because I would just recently did an interview with Richard Jeffs and he said
something that kind of, I'm very undecided about this, that Putin is actually a part
of this, um, of this whole plan, um, with 2020, 2030.
And he used to be, I do know that he used to be, he was a member of the WEF, however,
he left there and he says it's his control opposition.
I'd like to know what your take is on that.
Do you think, uh, he is controlled opposition or what, you know, what, what's your opinion?
Well, like I said, my classmate who was a Russian citizen in Japan, his father ran
big businesses up in Hokkaido and they were from Sakhalin.
And like I said, he showed up as a Lieutenant Colonel equivalent in the KGB.
We had an interesting discussion.
He, uh, warned that there's a rise of a character named Putin who was the head of the KGB and
said, you watch for him.
He's a very calculating person and he has no soul.
So what does that mean?
He says he has no S O U L.
He has no soul.
So he's a very cold, calculating, methodical mystery to even to them, even to the Russian
people and the Russian staff.
And, uh, and he said, just be careful of everything he says and does.
Now, my friend died a couple of years ago, and so I keep these, uh, keep these warnings
and messages in mind, but, uh, I know people that know Putin.
Because, uh, we drew the draw down there, the nuclear weapons business.
Uh, I was a treaty officer.
I did treaties in the state department, especially the, of course, the Panamanian
treaty was big, but I looked at other treaties as well.
And people that we dealt with that were, we were drawing down nuclear weapons and drawing
down intercontinental ballistic missiles.
They're very wary of him and they, nobody really knows a whole lot about him.
He's a, he's a total mystery and we haven't done a very good job of really researching
who he really is and what he really thinks.
So I'm, it's, he's, um, you know, you only know him from what people tell you and
they're, and they don't know much.
So I just, I don't know.
I wish I knew more.
Um, I know that talking about moving information from people like me up to
people like Trump, his chief of staff that he selected, Susie Wallace, she's a
long time Florida person, very, or not, I'm not going to say she's smart, but she's
very articulate and she understands how to collect information and sort it out.
So the hot stuff gets immediately delivered.
The stuff that can be read at night can be, you know, is in a different, she folders
things, puts them in systems so that things that are immediate and then things that are
long range papers, you know, like Dr.
Corsi said something that into her, she would study it herself.
She would write notes into it.
And, and she has direct contact him.
She's going to control that White House.
You just, uh, you watch how, how well organized and controlled that's going to be.
We're in a whole different government situation now.
And so now we're going to be asking hard questions like who is Putin and find out
more.
I mean, Biden administration didn't really care about it because they said that he
was a friend of Trump's and therefore they didn't want anything kind of to do with him.
It just, the whole four years has been as upsetting as it can be to not only just
Americans, but to the world.
Just unbelievably horn about what's been going on in America for the last four years.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Simultaneously, Biden being, you know, Trump in a Putin friend, Biden has been a Xi Jinping
for, I mean, the longest time is vice president.
Harris is a, is a Marxist communist.
I mean, you can just from her scene of what, what, what has been to be unburdened by
what has been.
I mean, that statement alone comes from Karl Marx.
And my last point being your, one of your losses, the comments saying that you're not
a friend or you're not a contributor to the Biden Harris Obama cartel.
How do we know that the Republicans, we know that there's a unit party.
Now we know that Trump is a, is a, is an exception to this.
He is, is so to speak.
How would I best describe it?
He is a blip on the radar that should not be there.
But he is surrounded by neocons.
He's surrounded by a Zionist.
He's surrounded by deep staters.
He is surrounded even by, I would go as far as to say he is surrounded by Satanists.
How do we know that he will not be tripped up in everything that he's trying to do if
he really is or wants to be the anti-war president that he says he wants to be?
Knowing that what he did in his last term for Israel, I mean, taking land, and I'm going
to be very frank here, taking land from Syria.
So I'm talking about the Golan Heights and giving it to saying this now belongs to Israel
and moving the American embassy to Jerusalem.
Okay.
He did go to North Korea.
He did.
He was the first president to walk over the border.
Actually, I believe the first person ever to walk over the border.
But he wants to cut down on Ukraine.
But how does this, how did these two way balance each other out when we know that he's
going to cut one war to support another one?
Would you be shocked if I said to you Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe and-
No, I know that.
Frankly, I wish I gave a damn about them, but I don't.
Other than the fact that they are the bread basket of wheat in the Sudan is now suffering
because they got a lot of their wheat and a lot of their food stuff from the Ukraine.
And it's just, my heart goes out for the first, I have too much African blood,
a Japanese blood in me.
You know, America is all about war.
Okay.
We were founded in war.
We are a war country.
Our history is based on battles.
It's not based on the railroad, the railroad spike going through Utah and all this stuff.
It's not.
When you go through history books, it's based on, and also Weigley's book,
The American Way of War.
We're so wound into each other and then everybody thinks
we are, that we're warlike and we're dangerous.
We're not.
We are a walking, clocking dichotomy.
I mean, we do economic things.
We do wonderful things.
We do great things around the world.
And then when we go to war, we are dangerous.
We are the most dangerous war since the fifth Legion marched through
Germania under the Roman leadership.
I mean, it's hard to explain it.
It's just difficult to explain the war.
And presidents don't like to get us into war, but they get us into wars.
You know, we're 217 different things right now.
I worked out at the VA in Shreveport and I see wounded coming in.
I worked as a traumatic brain injuries.
I can help people.
My brother suffered that with a bullet right through his right head and right of his head.
And we've been through all that.
And so I have, God gave me this very special capability of helping people
who have traumatic brain injuries, but I'm seeing wounds and burns and stuff.
And I'm going, where the hell have you been kid?
And of course they won't tell me because they can't, but it's scary.
What we're involved in.
It really is scary.
I do know that.
And to quote a phrase, I don't know who said it, but
war is when is where old men who know each other sent young men who do not know each other to die
and shed their blood for those old men to make money with that.
Thank you for your time.
And I see the rest of my time.
Yeah.
Thank you Sebastian.
Jim, who is a radiologist as I am.
And so he's a medical doctor and a radiologist, but he's also got deep connections with the CIA.
I believe.
Is that right, Jim?
I'm not exactly.
Everybody's got friends in various organizations or former former people.
Jim, I don't know how many times we've had to say this to you.
There's something wrong with your audio again tonight.
Oh, all right.
Sorry.
You want to go ahead and then I'll come back.
All right.
So Shasta, you're next.
Hello, David.
I really appreciate you and I can hear your sincerity and your love of God.
And I became a Christian during the last four years.
And so I say COVID brought me to on my knees to God.
So I'm grateful that you have that.
I am a doctor of acupuncture, a 30 year second generation.
My dad was one of the first ever licensed in America.
My teacher came from China, from communism, and she would be rolling over in her grave
if she knew what we have just as Americans endured with the totalitarianism of the lockdowns,
the forced jabs and the mandates.
And I'm wondering if you would consider the possibility that these tests,
my issue is this was a case-demic and they used a PCR test to create these cases,
which created the funds from the government for the lockdowns, which had the board of
supervisors and the governors lock us down.
They were getting money.
And every time the cases went up, there was more extension of the emergency.
And I'm wondering if you would consider that as Elizabeth Holmes tests were found to be
fraudulent, even though $2 billion were invested, that the PCR test was never made to actually
detect an infection as the inventor, Kary Mullis said, that we may have just endured
a psychological operation based on fraudulent testing, hypnosis, torture, and then leading
to poisoning.
And that this whole Wuhan bioweapon lab hypothesis was written in the lockstep war manual.
As you talked about, they have pre-planned manuals, pre-planned plans.
There was a 2010 lockstep war manual that said exactly that they would say that a virus
came from a Wuhan lab.
If that didn't hold water, they would say it came from a Wuhan lab that perhaps were
being played, David, that perhaps were being played.
That perhaps there really was no SARS-CoV-2.
Perhaps it was a case-demic.
My concern was the discriminatory testing, 40 cycle thresholds for unvaccinated and 28
for Vax, which created a higher false positive, although all of them were false, in my opinion.
That I, Ron Johnson came on and he said, well, I would need someone to report a crime.
And I'm saying, David, if you could tell this attorney general potential friend of yours,
that I believe that there was a crime of fraudulent testing, that the HHS was responsible for
proper health measures and education to the public.
And we also got false information.
And that was another crime.
And that these PCR tests, case-demics, we can't endure another one.
So are you aware of the lockstep and the spars war manual, David?
I wasn't aware of what you're specifically talking about.
One thing, the most momentous discovery that we found out about the SARS-CoV-2 was that
Wuhan, when we're looking at it from a chemical and biological warfare instrument, was this
the double helix structure of DNA that could be altered with gene splicing.
And so that created a warning about the possibility of a super germ.
And so the testing had to be false so that it would not prove that the super germ existed.
And so I've heard these different cases that people lied here.
They cheated here. They file false information here.
I don't know. That expression you're saying cannot be cast aside.
That cannot be cast aside because it is, can I say criminal?
It is criminal.
I was the science advisor for Children's Health Defense California for a year.
So I took it very seriously to research this night and day.
And we were wanting to do a PCR test, discriminatory testing lawsuit, but we never got there.
This greatly harmed many, many people in my area, Silicon Valley.
I had an assistant who was locked up for three months because she kept testing positive every
two weeks and she almost went crazy. Many other things.
But I invite you to go back through the comments I put in, something called COVID-19 War on
Humanity. That's Dr. Mark and Sam Bailey, a narrative of who they believe, how this all
came to be and who they believe was behind it. And I believe that some of the same workers from
Elizabeth's homes were involved with the PCR testing tests prior to this alleged outbreak.
Secondly, I put in there the lockstep war manual, the spars war manual.
And I'm wondering if you're familiar with, and I invite you to look into Dennis Rancourt's
information. He is a brilliant statistician and I don't know whatever else he's been on
many of these shows, but he's saying that he does not believe that there was any pandemic or
epidemic, that the deaths could be attributed to the lockdowns, the stress, the lack of treating
bacterial pneumonia, and then the jabs. So Dennis Rancourt, I highly recommend that he's at the top
of understanding the all-cause mortality. And I think you're sincere that you would be open to
learning. And so I'm praying that you will look at these things that I'm sharing with you, because
I'm afraid of another case-demic. I myself couldn't personally sustain it and many people I know.
I'm a small business. So I really, really hope that you could get understanding of this
and be able to talk to these people who will be like even your nieces, so that we don't have this
happen again. All right, I'll be happy to. Thank you. Thank you so much. I really appreciate you.
Yeah, so David, I think there's a danger that people like you are very, very knowledgeable
and have lived in many, many countries. I think you're very open to it. You seem to be very open
to new ideas, and that's admirable. I think this is a massive... What happened in the last five years?
We need to find out exactly what's happened, create our own narrative, war game it to destruction,
and get as close as any human beings are capable of doing to the truth. Because if we don't get to
the truth of what happened, and we've got all these different things going on, different
rabbit holes being pushed by different people, then we won't be able to guard against what happened.
I think that there's a very strong possibility as a medical doctor, I'm allowed to have a
medical opinion, there is a very strong possibility that they have been pushing for future deadly
pandemics for a long, long time because they saw that as the best Trojan horse for totalitarianism,
some people. And we need to really get a handle on what has happened. And it's not good enough to
say, well, you know, mistakes were made. No, these were mistakes. These were massive crimes
which nearly took out our countries and took out many families. In the United Kingdom, people
died in hospital, their loved ones weren't allowed to visit. Absolutely outrageous behavior by
doctors. Absolutely outrageous. So anyway, I have no sympathy for the doctors who did the wrong
thing in the last five years. And I noticed that they're terrified of people like me, they won't
come near me, because they're afraid of me saying something challenging them, and they'll have no
answer. And I've concluded, sadly, that many of these people knew they did wrong. They knew they
did wrong. But they carried on doing it. And the more they got into it, the less chance they were
able to reserve, less able they were to reverse it. They lost their self esteem, their self respect.
And they're now deeply unhappy and afraid of people like you and me. And yeah, well, they deserve it.
Sorry, they failed the ultimate test of being a human being, a good human being, and a good doctor.
And I really feel sorry for these doctors on the one hand, but they need to understand that they
need to get our forgiveness. They have to admit that they were wrong, and how badly they were wrong.
And what were their motives for ignoring what they could see or should have seen?
And okay, they were psychologically tortured into a state of Stockholm syndrome by their own
government, even the doctors. But that's not, that's, they need to admit this. But they,
how do you get someone who's in Stockholm syndrome to admit that they've come to love the enemy? Okay.
Who oppressed them? Jim? Violating the Hippocratic Oath is not a good thing, is it?
First, we will do no harm. Violating the Hippocratic Oath is never a good thing.
Absolutely. And? The other day, well, in April, I appeared before the Texas Intercollegiate Press
Association as 500 journalism students from the different universities in the state of Texas.
They're a 120-year-old organization that has been talking about what is a journalist and what are
we supposed to do? So I just, I hammered them. I mean, I laid down the, as I used to be the president
back in the 60s of that organization, I just let them have it. And I said, I want you to raise your
right hand and we're going to, we're going to swear to the Gutenberg oath. And that's first,
you will do no harm as a journalist. You will report the truth. I mean, the reporting of this
whole COVID business and the emergence of, I mean, it's just been absolute ludicrous. I mean.
I agree. Yeah, I agree with you David.
Susan says they took out the do no harm from the Hippocratic Oath. I know that,
but you know, replaced by equity. Yeah, but we should not be doing harm. And in the state
department, when we're doing these, we should do no harm to the countries. Why do we want to
harm other countries? We need to, you know, solve problems, economic problems, food problems,
water problems, and you know, and move on with people. But it just.
And David, do you mind if I just ask Karladeen, who was instrumental in getting you to
come to speak to us, what she thinks about doctors after the last five years?
Karladeen, do you want to speak or not?
You muted Karladeen, but if you don't want to speak, I get it.
You muted still, Karladeen. Okay, we'll come back. Jim, who is it? Jim, can you start off by saying
what you think of the doctors who did the wrong thing in the last five years?
Well, I don't everybody hopefully, everybody thinks they did the right thing. And that's the
problem. But what do you think? I, I, I tried to do the right thing for, and it is very challenging
because lied to. And the question is how much responsibility do the physicians have when they've
been lied to? And they've been and the physicians have been lied to by our intelligence.
Well, should doctors ever should the government ever come between doctors and their patients?
The answer? Not supposed to know. But when they when the intelligence agencies and all these
embedded intelligence agents in these organizations are lying to the doctors,
the organizations are lying to the physicians, then the physicians come up with the wrong answer.
And that's the serious problem. When, when, when a parent lies to their child, the child develops
false ideas. And when the intelligence agencies who are who are who are have to lie to you, lie to
you, then then we have a serious problem. And when the intelligence agencies get involved in
we have a serious problem because they're lying to us and have to lie to us. They
forbid us to use hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. And they forbid us to, they forbid us to do many
other things. And this is a serious and they forbid us to do analysis on on what would have
stopped this. And that simply means that they're in on this and they created it. And it's not just
the intelligence agencies, it's our Department of Defense and the Department and the Department of
Defense as as David was alluding to the five eyes and ultimately six eyes intelligence networks.
And I'm not sure if you directly included to it but kind of included to it. So the so the issue is
how to how to stop this and how to stop the double agents who are seemingly helping people
but actually still working for the intelligence communities, the State Department.
And that's my real question to David. David, you know, you you could be a double agent. You could be
a guy who's who's giving us partial truths and partial disinformation in order to cover up
for one country and blame and false blame. What I see is false blaming China. I mean,
China didn't invent this thing. It was dispersed there as a false flag. Everybody knows it.
So the so the question and and false blaming and the issue of the Panama Canal. I mean,
you talked about Southern Command. A friend of mine was the the child of Sink South.
And and they told me that it was not Nixon that gave up the Panama Canal but Henry Kissinger that
told him to give up the Panama Canal. So it's Henry Kissinger. And this seems to me like the
Henry Kissinger plan where we're being taken out by China. But it's Henry Kissinger who's organizing
it. And he just passed away recently. So what do you think about that? Through the World Economic
Forum, you mean? Well, more more directly through through six size intelligence agencies. Okay. And
through the US State Department to the other people. But it just so happens that he was the mentor
of one class. Sure. So the question is, number one, David, are you a partial disinformation guy?
It's hard. And number two, how do we stop a group that's organized through the intelligence networks
that are told to lie to us and are doing a ding dong effective job of it? Yeah, I believe you me.
Well, first question is, are you a double disinformation guy?
Rackleff and I had that same discussion when he was the ODNI. And we started recruiting a different
breed of person to go into the intelligence agency, all 17 of the different intelligence agencies,
which I cannot fathom that anymore. And I hope that they will consolidate some of them and do away
with some of them. I was in the BIR, Bureau of Intelligence and Research in the State Department.
And that was run by ambassadors or Helen. And he,
we're, he's a different breed of cat. He was a missionary kid, too. So by the way,
one third of the agency is missionary kids, as we speak the languages, we grew up overseas,
we know things. And, but that's all fading away. If you're a Christian, and you ain't,
you're not welcome in the Biden administration. So it's a lot of them got flushed out.
Wow. So, and one of my other question, my first question is,
You bring up about Kissinger though. Because the, when I was assigned to Georgetown in the
School of Foreign Service, because you, we always put a State Department officer in there for one
year. I had an office between Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright. And they didn't speak to each
other. So they would use me to carry messages back and forth to each other. And Kissinger would read
my papers and say, is this the very best thing you can do? And we talked about treaties and
he never would admit to it. But I have a feeling that he was a lot more involved in things with
the government that he probably should not have been involved in because he has a different view
of the world than anybody I ever met or talked to in my life. What view was that, David?
David? No, his view.
His view. His view is, that whole book he wrote about Metternich in Germany and all the things
that were happening in Europe and the center of gravity. It just, it was kind of spooky the way
he thought about the world and who should be running the world and who should be in.
He was a big proponent of world government, by the way.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. He was instrumental in forming the World Economic Forum.
Yeah. And they're the biggest advocates of all.
Boasting, Klaus Schwab boasting that they penetrated, quote, cabinets like the British cabinet,
you know, presumably the American and German. If anybody from Germany is on, and I don't want
to insult you, but I am very wary of them, of the Germans. Very wary. And just the way that
had been brought up, the way that they, you know, we have 500,000 German Americans living in Texas.
They live in the Fredericksburg, San Marcos, New Bromfield, Schurzibolo area. They run a daily
newspaper, the New Bromfield Zeitung. They're great Texans, by the way, don't get me wrong,
but I am very wary of where they come from, from history-wise. And I don't know why. It's been,
and my parents are both German Americans. They spoke German at home, and then they become
Southern Baptist missionaries in Japan. We had to switch languages and cultures and whole ideas,
but you know, it's just, I'm very leery of them. And I don't know why. I don't know why I'm leery
of them, but I'm just leery. It's just one of my natural reactions, I guess, as a journalist and
an intelligence person. And the Russian people are very wary of them as well. And I don't quite
understand. My own perception is that in the Second World War, if things were as they actually,
we've been told that they were, that the Germans prior to 1914 were probably the most cultured
people in the world. And they were targeted for that reason. And now it's America's turn.
I'm not saying that now Americans are very cultured, but it was seen as the, you know,
I think Germany before the 1418 war, they were perceived as the best that civil, you know,
humans could come up with. And then the next, and that was replaced by America, if you like,
in the 60s and 70s. And so all these states have to be taken down. These, you know,
when the people become too fond of Germany, maybe with Beethoven and Bach and all the rest of it,
and then America, because of Hollywood, and which we now realize is evil,
they all have to be taken down. Steven, can I ask my follow up to David? Sure. Go ahead.
He's pointed out the issues with Germans living in Texas, but we should remind everyone that it
wasn't the Germans who were living in Texas who invited JFK down to Texas to Dallas to
be shot. And the question is who invited JFK to Dallas to be shot? And...
President Johnson did. Well, along with another group. Yeah. And then we also know that, so we
know that it wasn't the Germans. And we know that it wasn't the Russians. And we know that it wasn't
the Chinese. Yeah, yeah, we know. There's two things that we could never, that President Johnson
would lay down the law when we worked for him. He said, you cannot ask me about the Vietnam War,
and you cannot talk to me about the assassination. And I just, I just blurted out to him. I said,
what the hell am I working for you for? I mean, those are the two things that we want answers to.
False flags. And so, and so we know that false flags are coming. False flags are blaming wrong,
the wrong people when it was actually LBJ who did the Gulf of Tomkin and LBJ who did the,
our JFK assassination. So what, and we're looking at these nuclear drones flying around,
trying to sniff, it looks like there's going to be a nuclear attack and it's going to be a false
flag on Russia, China, and Iran, when it's actually not them. It's actually, and we know that
LBJ covered up nuclear weapons going from Pennsylvania, Apollo, Pennsylvania affair to
the Middle East. So, so, and, and so we know that a false flag is coming.
Now you, and so I'm a, I'm wondering, how can we prevent the false flags? And do we need an
office of false flag prevention in the White House? Because absolutely. Let me, let me read
something for you. I just, I wrote this 24 months ago and, and I put it into the hands of US Northern
Command. This is what I wrote. Witness the first aerial biological chemical dispersal by a hostile
group on American soil. It was a magical evening in Dallas, Texas, the week of July, 2023. The Sky
Elements Company, using an empty football practice field in downtown Dallas, took 1,500 individually
programmed UAVs, drones, and flew them upward into the sky. The drones danced and changed colors and
shapes and directions and elevations and dimensions. They morphed themselves into two giant sharks and
then into a massive mile long rattlesnake, all well lit. The aerial display thrilled tens of
thousands of spectators near the field. Those who stepped outside their homes to see the display and
those who stopped and pulled their cars off on the mini Dallas freeways. People were clapping and
dancing along with the show. And then the UAVs went totally dark. The AI programmed UAVs formed a
huge flat circle, closed together, rose 2,000 feet. They flew 500 feet apart as they dispersed
and the containers they carried open. The fine chemical altered biological base virus spray, X,
more deadly than VX or Nova Shoke, began raining down on every living thing in Dallas.
The UAVs streaked down every street, alley, highway, hotel, open area, and high school football
stadium where the Friday night football games were underway. When their deadly cargo was depleted,
the drones were programmed to fly in and detonate preselected electrical substations, municipal
water systems, fire stations, police stations, and hospital entrances. The carnage caused by
people dying almost immediately after the aerial spray hit them was unfathomable. Cars slammed into
other vehicles, pedestrians died on the walkways, the football stadium crowds went completely silent.
Within an hour, Dallas became very still, very eerie, and very dark. Sky Elements, the possessor
of the largest fleet of programmable drones in the United States, had been overtaken by a shadow
group whose hatred toward all things Americans was fierce. Their action to destroy a considerable
city of 2 million people was unprecedented and unplanned for. It placed the U.S. government in a
completely chaotic state. It was to be the crowning event for the group and it foreshadowed even
deadlier events to come. Their aerial biological chemical dispersal drone weapon was a terrifying
success. Northern Command is paying very close attention. Was that fiction from you, David?
But the aerial show is real. This company really exists, Sky Elements. They just put on a show
two nights ago, a Christmas thing. They had this gigantic Santa in the sky and all the drones were
dancing around with the reindeer and the sleighs. These things are programmable. They can do awesome
things. They can fly up, down, backwards, forwards, and they can deliver. So what's going on on the
East Coast and now over Texas, over Houston, last night the drones appeared over our refineries in
Houston, up and down the coastline. This is not a good thing. It looks like that this is going to
be a false flag from Six Eyes on the United States to get us into war with Iran and false blame Iran.
That's the real problem. When somebody hit Trump with a bullet, they said, that's Iran.
And saying that the COVID came from China when we know that COVID didn't come from China,
it came from the Six Eyes intelligence networks just like the book Rainbow Six.
I'm so grateful that you allow people with alternative ideas on this, Stephen, and I disagree.
I think the spike protein is the bioterror weapon in vaccine or virus form.
You just said that. I would say they actually made it difficult to see, but actually all
medical doctors should have realized that there was no possibility of diagnosis of COVID-19.
Then why did they prevent hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin from being used?
That's irrelevant. The point is that they had a fraudulent test. We knew very early on it was
fraudulent, but they were trying to say, oh, we can diagnose it clinically. Then I realized as a
doctor that they hadn't got any symptom which was pathognomonic or peculiar for COVID-19.
They then started to say, oh, well, loss of taste and loss of smell. Everybody in the UK said, oh,
yes, like Life of Brian. I don't know if you've seen that where the crowds are always
echoing what's said by the leaders. Because human beings don't seem to want to take
responsibility and they'd rather join a cult to be led by a cult leader who has no morals.
I had a loss of taste, loss of smell, the people were saying in the UK,
but they forgot that they had that with the common cold and flu previously.
Sure, but I mean, there was no proper diagnosis. If you can convince me otherwise,
doctor to doctor, I'm happy. I'm all ears. I'd be glad to give you the documentation,
but nuclear biological and chemical warfare is a real thing. David, what are your thoughts on
weaponization of avian flu, which the antidote is also hydroxychloroquine? If you're analyzing
and they're giving this to all the animals and they're going to cull our food supply,
they meaning our US government, why aren't we giving the animals? There's documentation now
that if we use ivermectin in the bird feeders, there's no more West Nile virus. If we use
hydroxychloroquine in the animal feed, there's no more avian flu, yet they're going to allow us to
have to cull all these animals. The head of the Manhattan, Kansas biological warfare labs
just moved hoof and mouth disease from Plum Island, the safety of Long Island,
up to Manhattan, Kansas in Carl Dean's area, where they are going to
seemingly have a lab leak and then kill off our animal population and kill off the land of milk
and honey and kill off our birds and kill off our cattle. So that we can eat insects. Well,
it's coming from our own military and the guy who runs the lab in Manhattan, Kansas is a guy named
Robert Cadlick, US Air Force, MD from the US Air Force. It's right in Carl Dean's area.
It seems like we're being targeted by our own military for destruction of our food supplies.
How are we going to stop it when it's coming from the inside?
David,
I just wanted to make a point that, David, I was personally tracking the cases throughout all of
2020 off of the CDC and November 13th, 2020 off of the CDC. It was at 2,580,000, I believe.
Yet what they report were total deaths in 2020. If you look now, it's about 3,380,000.
Somehow they added another 600, 700,000 in six weeks of 2020. So I would invite you to
consider that they may have cooked the books, paid for diagnoses, used a PCR test that in 2007,
they had a 100% false whooping cough epidemic that they said was viral, but they found it was
bacterial. And the CDC put in writing that from then on PCR should never be used solely as a
way of diagnosing anything in my understanding of the information of that. It was the
epidemic that never was. So I'm hoping that you will go back through these comments and read what
was put. So I believe that you've got to be one of the most smartest people I've ever personally
encountered. And if you actually take the time to read it, it'll really blow your mind. I do think we
have just endured a PSIOP, a fraud inflicted on the world. And David, I'm hoping you will take
the time to read what we put in there, assess it and just be able to share with these people you
know. I'll tell you why I'm so smart. I grew up in Japan. We didn't take drugs. We did acupuncture.
Well, you know what? I grew up with an acupuncture doctor, dad, and we were all born at home. We all
use herbs as our primary care of medicine and acupuncture. So for me, we consider colds and
flus like environmental attacks on our terrain. We don't really consider viruses. So I'm glad that
you understand. Please take the time because if you could understand this, you could get this to
the people that you know. It could prevent another case-demic. And I would personally be very grateful
to you. All right. Thank you so much. I'm recording everything and I'll look at everything. I guarantee
I'm that kind of a person. I read like wolves eat voraciously. I really am grateful for that. Thanks
so much. That's why I commented. I usually don't. Thank you. Well, David, I noticed one thing about
your bio. You said I'm obsessed with or is it in the third person? I can't remember. I'm obsessed
with nation building. Yeah. Well, that's a great start. Well, my computer program that I finally
got back under control and it was declassified. It was called RISIA. And it's in the book that
I wrote on interagency cooperation is that using and data fusing so much information together so
you can actually understand what a nation needs to build itself so that it's sustainable and the
people are viable. And it's bothered me over and over. I work with Peter Zahan. We talk and he's
a very smart guy. He's got a lot of influence on me. John Perkins was kind of a mentor as I was
growing up into the cruel world of what do we do with this third world country? Do we either make
it a democracy or do we destroy it? I mean, he's a very interesting guy because
he's the dark side of what America can do to a country and rob it and steal it blind and
destroy it. So I've been very careful. And Robert Asprey, of course, I've worked with him for 35
years. We looked at where does war come from? What is war really all about? Guerrilla warfare,
especially. What caused it? Why did a nation go to war with itself? Why did they go to the war with
the next door? What happened? Where are we coming from all this stuff? And I spent a lot of time
when I was in Southern Command, we're trying to figure out Sandero Luminosa down in Peru. I mean,
what was their end argument? What was their end discussion? And I don't know. I just get involved
in a lot of different things because once people saw that I worked for President Johnson,
people started saying, well, if you did for him, let me tell you what I want. And I didn't like
the guy personally. I mean, I did what he asked me to do. We had a connection because he went to
Texas State University, so did I. He founded the newspaper. I was an editor of his newspaper. And
he was in my office every other week. And finally, he just said, why don't you just come to work for
me the day I graduated? So I learned a hell of a lot. I learned to really be very careful around
politicians like that. He was a very power crazed, power hungry guy, let me tell you.
Yeah. Didn't spend enough time on his mother's knee. Is that right?
It probably did not. Yeah. But you know, I mean, you know, he was at the ranch and, you know,
Lady Bird was at Austin. She was the chancellor of the University of Texas. And so, you know,
he wasn't supervised enough.
Yeah. So Jerome's got his hand up. And I would like to hear what Jerome's got to say to you,
if he's thought of other things. Are you there, Jerome? I think he might have left his hand up,
though. I believe that was from before, Steven. I've asked my questions. I just didn't take the
hand down. All right. So you haven't got any more questions? No more questions. Thank you. All
right. Thank you. So Sebastian, you've still got your hand up as well.
I still do, because I'd like to just circle back on what David said here.
Why he mistrust Germans. I happen to be a German here, yes. And I'd really like to know
what gets your spidey senses tingling. Because if I think back in history and think back to
specifically what Winston Churchill said about NATO. NATO is in Europe for three reasons. That's to
keep America in, to keep the Russians out, and to keep Germans down. Now, every time Europe,
if we remember back, if we go back to MacKinder's theory of the world island, every time that Russia
and Germany get together, it seems that the Anglo-American or at least the English part of
the world, they have a specific aversion to this natural power growing. So the question is, where
does that animosity come from? Why is it there? And what's your take on it? Why do you say that
you don't trust Germans? After I graduated and I went into Vietnam and we spent six months down
there working in our Baptist hospital, then I went around the world and then I wound up in Germany
where my mother was, like I said, they were German background and she had a very special teacher.
She would fly over to Germany when she was 13 years old in the 20s and she studied music and
all that stuff. But I spent a week in Dachau and I was trying to analyze and put into my brain
how a sophisticated, smart, highly educated, Prussian-stocked people do what they did
to the Jewish prisoners in Dachau and it's still standing. You can walk through it all.
I mean, it shook the core of my belief in a lot of things and it's just bothered me to this day.
And of course, growing up in Japan and we lived about six miles from the Musashino shrine.
And of course, the Japanese beheaded the Doolittle raiders that they captured.
It was the most heavily bombed place in Japan because MacArthur said,
save a bomb for Musashino and let them know that we're coming. So I mean, war is not good.
This is the stupidest thing that ever happened to me in the world. I was a reserve officer in
the Air Force. I get orders one day to go to active duty and I wind up in the nuclear weapons
engineering. I said, excuse me, I have a degree in English as a second language. I have a journalism
degree. Why am I being sent to nuclear weapons school? He said, because you can read and you
understand. I said, you understand. I grew up in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I have seen what an atomic
weapon does. They said, yeah, all the better so that you know what you're doing and you don't
make mistakes. And I mean, I did that for seven years, night and day, in, out, sleep with them,
talk to a weapon. But then to see the destructive abilities of a nation, what they can do to other
people and other nations as well. And don't forget, we're still uncovering a lot of bodies in Poland
and areas of Romania. I mean, I couldn't grasp it. I just couldn't grasp it. And to
this day, I can't grasp it. And I don't know why it bothers me so. They're just hard. I mean,
they spoke like us and my grandparents were German. We address them as Oma and Opa.
I mean, we address them formally. I mean, it just, I don't know.
Well, the Koreans do that.
They're my weird things, okay? I mean, you know, I'm not perfect, but it just bothers me.
I understand because I went to Dachau too. I mean, it is an obligation for every German soldier that
serves in the southern hemisphere of Germany. So Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg, et cetera, they have
to go to a concentration camp. And I've been to Dachau. We were there the whole day. And,
you know, I've seen the atrocities of war. I mean, not only from the Second World War,
I've seen the atrocities from what NATO has done in the past 20 years. So I mean,
war is war. It is disgusting. It is something that I now can no longer subscribe to as a Christian,
but how can I say that, you know, first of all, when we're young, we're impressed by very, very
different inputs, you know, olfactory inputs. And as we get older, we start to learn and we try and
understand more. And therefore, you know, I can see what's happening in Israel, for example, right.
And I don't understand that either what's happening in Ukraine. I mean, for goodness sake, we have over
1 million people. And this is not, as I said before, it's where old men get together to send
young people to die for them. Over 1 million people dying for lithium, for wheat, for top soil in
Ukraine. And it's the blood of a nation dying for rich people to make money off of. And I don't
understand that. And this is what really, I mean, this is where I can see the United States is a
country that, through a project paperclip, got all the German Nazis into their country. And the book
from Annie Jacobson is a very well-written book. So I don't trust the Americans either, but I don't
trust, I have to differentiate and say, I don't trust the American governments and the powers that
be, just like I do trust the American people, because I take that the populace do not subscribe
to what their governments do. And I think we all need to differentiate between a regime or a
government or whatever, and the populace, because we can all be duped into doing things that we don't
think are, you know, that we don't understand how evil they can be. Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels,
for example. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you again. Great, great evening.
Yeah, so I've lost track of the time. So it's gone over. David, is there anything you'd like to say?
Oh, is there anybody else with it? Oh, Anders Brunstad, he's in Norway. Anders? Yeah. So I think-
Hello. Hello. Yeah, hello.
Anders, go ahead. Dr. David, it was really great to hear from you today. It was a very interesting
talk you had. And I would say that you seem to be a man of the world. You seem to be knowing a lot
of countries, and I'm really appreciative of your global understanding of everything.
And that's very interesting. And I would say that I have a unique situation because I know
German for about 30 years. I've been living in Poland for about 30 years.
And I know this mentality of the people. And I've been to Krakow. I've been to Holocaust.
I've seen the evil. I've seen the evil of what people are able to do. And I would say that it's
very interesting to hear from you, Dr. David, because you are so knowledgeable about everything
around the world. And it is indeed a very complicated world. And you have been
so much around the world, so you understand much of it. I've been traveling a lot for about 30
years across Europe and Asia and America. I would say that what you say is interesting.
That what you say is interesting. You need to consider that there is
dark forces, Dr. David, there are dark forces. And you may think that there are good intentions
in the ministries, but I would say there are also bad intentions in the ministries. And I would say
these bad intentions, Dr. David Bradford, are overwhelming. And you need to consider that,
you know, I'm a Christian. And I would say if you don't consider there is a God,
Jesus, you will hardly consider there is an evil force out there. And this is the problem, because
most of the people now, they don't consider there is evil. Indeed, there is a lot of evil out there.
And I would say, I believe there is a lot of good spirit in, around Trump,
new administration. But there is also some spirits which may not be good. And I don't want to go into
there. But let's say you understand, we need to think now, how do we work together? How do we work
together to promote good spirit, good ideas? And you have presented a lot of good thoughts.
And I think these thoughts are very good. But you know, I think you're too optimistic about
the things that you're doing. And I think that you're not too optimistic about the things that you're
doing. And I think these thoughts are very good. But you know, I think you're too optimistic.
You think that there are good sources, but you know, if you go to the Obama administration,
if you go to the last administration, there is not many good. It is mainly evil. And you know it,
you know it. And the evil, I would say like Christian, there is so much evil out there,
you don't understand almost how much there is. And I would challenge you a little bit. Can you think
in such a way that you are not facing logic? You know, I'm a very logical man, I can explain
everything in logic, but you know, the world is not logic. It is so much evil out there.
I agree. And I agree too. So without people aware of the evil, they can't push back at it.
And that actually is the problem of human beings. One of the things I think David,
is that we seem to have a limited understanding of how human beings are and how they operate.
And I think that the last five years has taught, if that one thing that it taught me is that
human beings have a dangerous predilection for cults.
Well, Satan worshiped in the United States. I just leave it to you.
Satan worship in the United States has grown exponentially. And it's a very dangerous thing.
We see it, we see way too much of it on Facebook and TikTok and everywhere else. The social media
has really taken a hold of this satanic acceptance. And it's a very dangerous thing, believe you me.
Can I ask you, so you're a nation builder in your mind, at least. And I think in practice as well,
you try your best. But what is the most important thing that needs to be addressed? It seems to me,
it needs education of human beings. How do we educate human beings to bring them closer to their
humanity so that they realize, for example, that social media and mobile, their damned mobile phones
are all geared against them and taking their humanity away from them?
Because now we've got people in the UK, at least, anybody under the age of 40,
can't have a conversation with anyone who disagrees with them in the slightest way,
because they're so used to being in an echo chamber on their phones and social media.
And they're so exhausted by looking at screens all the time, they haven't got any energy to
discuss with anyone. They can't see the point of having discussions with people who disagree with
them. And you know, as well as I do, that traveling around the world, that you, how you survive in
other countries is to try to understand the people in that country and the culture. And if you don't,
then you cannot deal with the challenges that will come your way. What do you say?
I agree. One thing about technology, though, is that it's very powerful. And the same thing that
people said about the printing press from Germany, Gutenberg, you know, oh my gosh,
you know, after the Bible was printed by him, what was the next thing printed?
Bad things about other people and books and then authors. I mean, the whole, there's a whole thing
called the Gutenberg parentheses. People should read that to understand that this technology way
that we're in right now will also not manifest itself forever. And it's going to go away.
But the thing is, what will replace it? How will we get our information? How will we communicate
with people? How will we think about information and education? The education system in the United
States, though, is 100% completely bankrupt. It has been destroyed internally and externally,
and there's all kinds of just madness. And it has to be changed. And maybe Trump is right,
do away with the Department of Education. So I...
Yeah. Well, I've heard him saying that. Why do you think he says that? Does he understand
that the education system is broken in America or?
Well, the administration of it is now the states run... Because education is not in our
constitution, the states, it's a state right. And it shouldn't be a federal thing. But on the other
hand, we should have some kind of a standard that we teach from. I know that in Florida, when I
taught there, we had a thing called the Sunshine State Standards. And it said, if you're teaching
ninth grade, or you're teaching the second year in college, this is a standard that you will teach
to. And this is what you will present. Now, how you present it, what information or novel you want
to use is up to you, but you still have to do it. And so that really... We went from 48th place
as being the stupidest state in the union to seventh place in a lot of areas, reading
mathematics fundamentals, because we had a standard that we required people to follow.
Now, do you need a national standard? I don't know.
So it seems to me, David, that...
It's one of the most dangerous minefields you've ever want to walk through in your life.
The unions have control of secondary education, tenure folks have got control of higher education,
and it's just... It's a maddening situation.
Yeah. So, yeah, I've forgotten what I was going to say. Sorry about that. It was important as well.
But anyway, David, I think the great thing about you is that you have a huge generosity of spirit
and you're open, seem to be open to all ideas. And most impressively, you're very civilized.
And that comes over, we can't even see your face, but you come over as very civilized.
And, oh, yes, I know what it was about. It was about when my first son was born,
I've got three sons. I took my... So at the time he was about, I don't know, six weeks or eight weeks
old. And I took him round on my own to see my friend who was a gynecologist in Sweden.
I was working in Sweden at the time and I had to learn Swedish to do that. And so... And he had a
wife who was very outspoken. And I later learned she was from a, you know, Swedish aristocracy,
if you like, or Swedish establishment, should we say. And she said, oh, very nice, she said.
She was very practical about it, but Swedish people are very practical. But to the exclusion of
their spirituality, you know, so I now look at Sweden as a kind of test
pilot for totalitarianism. So the interesting thing about Sweden is that they didn't require a
lockdown. And people pointed that out to me because my wife is Swedish, you see. So, and I said, well,
they didn't need a lockdown in Sweden because they already believe their government.
And so, and I haven't changed my view. That was in 2020, I said that. And so she said,
you know what your son needs? She said, very nice. You know, the usual. But you know what he needs?
And plenty of it. And I said, no. And she said, love. Yes, I agree with that. But she also said,
teach him about God. And I said, why is that so? And this is in Sweden. So they don't go to church
much in Sweden any longer, not every Sunday anyway. So she said, teach him about God. And I said,
I was a bit surprised. I said, why do you say that? And she said, because if you don't teach
your child about God, they will create their own God. And that God might be a lot worse than your
God. And I think that's what's happened in the United Kingdom and the United. They've attacked
the church. We've got people at the top of the church in the Church of England. What's his name?
Can't remember his name. Artificial Canterbury. The guy. No wonder people don't go to church
because they don't respect the leaders of the church. I think in America, it seems to be that
places like North New York State and California and the whole of the Northeast of America seems
to have been taken over by people who have no morals. They have no guide at all. They don't
know the Ten Commandments and they seem to have the mindset of what can I get away with? How much
lying can I get away with? And, you know, so I outdo everybody around me. And I think this is
one of the problems they want to. If we all started going to church, you know, even just to sit there
experiences again, then, you know, the politicians would be extremely worried. They're terrified of
the church. They're also terrified of the family and they're terrified of people who want to protect
their country. And so they're terrified of being charged with treason. And they should be as well
because what happened in 2020 was treason, in my opinion, and we need to hold these bastards to
account. So, excuse me. I've got to. It's five o'clock here in Texas. We baptist. We go to church
on Sunday nights. So I'm going to head out in 30 minutes. And it's been wonderful. And Dan,
appreciate you setting this up for this. And Dr. Corsi, it's always good to see you. I've always got
strange things to talk to you about and all of you, but I would like to join you again, if that's
possible. Oh, yes, we would love to have you again, David. You're great. You're a great presenter.
We've had many wonderful presenters, but you are right up there in the top 10. Well, thank you very
much. Thank you, David, for joining us. It's been a great evening. And I bless you. I'm going to
say a special prayer in church tonight for this entire group. Let me tell you. Thank you very much.
Thank you, David. If I can do anything to help you, if Jerome can or anybody else who's caught
your eye, we'd be really happy to help you. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Bye bye. Thank you, everybody else.
Thank you.