Christine, so if...
Well, Maria, did you speak to her PA, Maria, by any chance?
So her PA has not answered now on a text. I will call her.
I just did not want to do a call while Mascha was reading out the text to Arne's passing.
So to honor him, I just wanted to add something here.
So as Mascha knows, I was also in the Pathology Conference number one,
and Elmer Becker reached out to me at the beginning of the week to join a small group
to put together the text, like the press text, to Arne's passing.
And I warmly invite you, as Mascha did already, to write in his condolences book.
So the webpage pathologyconference.info is also with a best-of of videos of Arne in German, but also in English.
And the condolences book is there and out there in German and in English.
So if you find the time to write in there, that is again to honor Arne's great work.
And just in case, I would recommend, and as Mascha said, Elmer, our great friend,
he is still very sad and in shock of Arne's passing.
I could ask Johanna, Dr. Johanna Deinert, who was working closely in the Pathology Lab with Arne Burkhardt
so that she could speak this upcoming Tuesday.
She put together mainly most of the content on the webpage and all the best of videos,
and she could give a great overview of all his achievements and his work, if you want me to do that, Charles.
And in further addition, of course, we will ask Elmer if he would be ready to speak
or if even Professor Lang would join this meeting on Tuesday.
I can organize that.
And one more thing, people thought that he died on the 2nd or 1st of June.
So as Mascha read out, it was the 30th of May.
And also very important for Elmer was to point out that he was never retired.
So he was working until the end in his first private practice and private office.
And then he worked in the lab, in the institute, in the Pathology Institute to shine a light,
especially on the sudden COVID deaths or after vaccination deaths.
And so I'm happy to help to organize that we can honor him in a great way on this upcoming Tuesday.
And now I will call Christina's PA.
And Mirja, he was working very closely, as I understood it, with Professor Sugri Bhakti as well.
And he's got criminal charge or just I think they're appealing the state, though.
That's what I heard.
They're going after him, Sugri Bhakti, for anti-…
Well, what is it? I can't remember the exact charge now.
The German state.
Yeah.
Hate speech.
Right. So it is that, and Mascha also knows more about this.
So probably we can ask Professor Bhakti himself to speak about the whole lawsuits.
There has been two lawsuits fought in two different countries now.
Again, he was spoken free, but again, the state comes after him in the next round of court case.
He has amazing and very good lawyers that help him.
And I will check if my friend Dr. Uwe Altschner, who is writing the sub-stack with Vera Sharav, never again is now global.
I tried to find a report from Uwe Altschner in English, what has happened in the court in northern Germany,
and we'll put the link while this meeting is going on in the chat.
Sure. Charles, I think if Mascha is up to it, and we've got a bit of time waiting for Christine,
I think she's got the time wrong. So she's an hour out, so she'll be here at our nine o'clock rather than eight o'clock.
Mascha, are you up to reading that obituary again with the recording on? The recording is on now, isn't it Charles?
Yes, it's on now. And Paola and Gero, if you're okay with that, Maria will call.
Mascha, if you're okay to read that obituary again, are you? What, for the recording?
Yeah, I just thought that, you know, we're all here now, so the live bit is...
It would be good to have that as a record with Mascha reading it out. I think it was very good and authentic.
That's most important. So, Mascha, are you up to it or not?
Oh, you're muted, Mascha. You're muted.
Right. Yeah, all right. I am good.
You sure?
Sure.
Okay. Yes.
Yes.
He's incorruptible witnesses in his lifelong search for the truth.
And as an empathetic, compassionate person, he knew about the comfort that knowledge of the cause of death can give to the bereaved.
He also knew that the findings of his work could save the lives of countless people.
For this reason, despite his age, he fearlessly and without hesitation faced the challenges of the Corona pandemic.
Neil Nocera, the primary principle of medical ethics that the treatment must never be more harmful than the disease itself, was seen by him crossly violated during the pandemic.
Without sparing himself, he mobilized all his reserves of strength and energy in the search for answers for the bereaved and the living patients.
A mission that was to be the last and the most successful of his life.
Together with his team, he succeeded in providing scientific evidence of the great dangers of Corona vaccinations.
Anne Burkhardt leaves behind an impressive, unique life's work with which he has already inscribed himself in the history books, not only of medicine.
We are with his family and loved ones in our hearts and bow to a wonderful man and a great scientist.
Rest in peace.
By Professor Dr. Matt Walter-Lank on behalf of the members of the Pathology Conference.
Professor Dr. Matt Anne Burkhardt looks back on 79 years of life and an impressive career as a specialist in pathology.
In addition to his many years of research and teaching activities at the universities of Hamburg, Bern and Tübingen, he has also been a member of the University of Hamburg's University of the Arts.
He has taught internationally as part of visiting professorships and study visits in Japan, Nihon University, USA, Brookhaven National Institute, Korea, Sweden, Malaysia and Turkey.
After working in university medicine, he headed the Institute of Pathology in Reutlingen for 18 years.
Since April 2021, he has worked in private office as well as an appraiser and consultant for Sentry Laboratories USA.
With a research focus on pulmonary and head and neck pathology, he is the author of over 150 original publications in German language and international journals, as well as handbook, article and monographs in German, English and Japanese.
Since the beginning of the Corona pandemic, he has dealt with the physical consequences of mandatory masks, the pathology of Corona infection and the consequences of Corona vaccination.
He has selflessly postponed the long awaited retirement because he saw that his skills were needed for us.
He has left too soon.
May his soul now find its well deserved peace.
Thank you, Maria.
Beautifully done.
Thank you.
All right.
So, so power's got her hand up, Stephen, and I called I asked for comments.
But if there's anyone who wants to say Maria has spoken to the PA, Stephen, it could be it could be that Christine came on an hour ago.
You know, maybe she because it's the she's an hour ahead of you in the UK.
Well, what I did.
So normally I say 8 p.m.
London time.
But yesterday on the phone, I said 9 p.m.
your time.
So maybe she thought I said 9 p.m.
UK time.
I'm sorry.
I also couldn't reach neither Christina personally nor her PA, but sent both of them texts.
But as also Stephen is reaching out to her, she would call him back, I guess, as soon as possible.
Right.
Yeah.
OK.
Thanks. Thanks, Maria.
Thank you, Maria.
Thank you, Masha.
Thanks.
All right.
So while we're waiting, because the Great Awakening is a huge amount of work by Mickey Willis, Maria will talk to Mickey about these extra interviews, the 10 hours of extra interviews that Mickey did.
Paula, you had your hand up to make a comment and Jerry, you had your hand up.
Jerry Waters.
Paula.
Thank you.
Thank you for inviting me here.
Very interesting.
And yes, as a humble teacher, I always ask myself, what, how can such a powerful message, any powerful message being taken further?
And I was impressed, very impressed by the geopolitical framework imposed on the public health crisis, as I call it.
And in particular, of course, the tracing back of the influence of the Communist Party and the Communist propaganda.
And I think that Maria has just posted an interview to Yuri Besmanov, who is a spy that affected the AKGB.
So I think taking this further, so to speak, we need to look again beyond the so-called Communist propaganda, because that is a typical Freemasonry technique to introduce bipolarism.
So it's Communist again against the liberal, it's globalist against multipolar.
And in fact, all of these dichotomies are designed and carefully managed by the elite, which includes foundations, which includes bankers, which includes, at the end of the day, Masonry.
So I think possibly a message that it could be again taken further is the one of understanding that this sort of dichotomy has been played not by, I mean, it's not just the last message that we need to take on.
And interestingly enough, Besmanov have several times remarked how the United States was being infiltrated and he couldn't understand what was going on, why the United States wasn't responding to the infiltration.
And you might, I don't know if you heard of him, but he died suddenly at 53 and he was very fit.
Most likely he was starting to understand things a bit too much.
It wasn't just a question of Russia infiltrating the United States, it was more a question of internal, inner forces, inner powers within the United States wanting to implode that civilization.
Anyway, I will stop here. I know just my whole point is that I think it's extremely important that the geopolitical framework has been brought about and we need to take that on.
Thank you.
Very good.
Thank you. Thank you, Paula. Well noted this global game plan and well said.
Glenn.
Hi.
Our team, the Humanity Coalition is rolling out a major campaign.
We're looking to take it into a much higher gear between now and the end of July around getting a more honest Congress.
We're focusing on people using Flag Day as a day to be active and to make local contacts and to, if they have local pods to be able to extend them.
If they don't have pods to try to connect with people they know that might be willing to do a pod and use that as a launch point.
We've done a preliminary announcement to a variety of pastor churches.
And one of the technique we were using was around the hashtag save humanity.
And one thing we've uncovered it appears that someone has is doing some finagling and shadow banning us with that hashtag name.
So if there is anyone out there that is a specially advanced user of Twitter, we'd like to ask if they would assist us, especially right here in the beginning of it when it's so crucial to be able to get the reach as good as possible.
That was the hashtag.
Save humanity.
So no punctuation.
The save is capital S and the humanity is a capital H. So pound sign save humanity.
We're also running through our normal Rumble channel L4ATV1.
But the intent to get the big blast out is and to keep that highly active is through Twitter, especially in the realm of potentially boycotting Instagram for their high association with pedophilia accounts using that product as a primary buyer seller avenue.
As was highlighted in a report from the Wall Street Journal.
So we're cognizant of a lot of interest in this particular topic and the fact that we broaden it beyond just correcting Congress to also protecting the children.
And that whole element of it with the pedophilia as well as the whole trans agenda, we think this is likely to have a lot of high degree of interest.
And we don't want to be blocked.
And so far it looks like our full launch really isn't until tomorrow morning.
But our test cycle of it is already showing that they've spotted us and looking to diminish our reach.
Thank you.
So if anybody can either send to me directly or as an alternative, if they'd rather go to a protected email, I'll put it into the chat.
The protected email is the same as a Rumble site.
It's L4ATV1 at proton.me.
And like I said, I'll put that in the chat right now.
Slowly, slowly. Can you put that in the chat, please, Glen?
L4ATV1 because people don't get quite quickly hacked. You quickly get spanking.
Now while that's going on, Kat and Glen, you might leave Leet Steven issued a press release two days ago on the flag.
Now you've mentioned the flag, Glen. That's June the 14th, isn't it, in the US?
Yes, it is. It's coming Wednesday.
So leave Leet for the... Can somebody... I've got the press release somewhere.
If someone can put the press release up there as well, Glen, because that ties into what you're doing, it seems to me.
Have you seen that press release, Glen, or Kat, either of you?
I have not.
OK, I'll dig it out. Or someone might dig it out. I'll be able to dig it out while we're conversing.
Well done, Glen, on that work. So save humanity is the hashtag on Twitter.
Yes.
All right. Thank you.
Thank you.
Charles, what's the name of the lady or woman on...
So there's a picture which Mark Steele has put up, and I'm struggling to remember this woman's name,
but I think it was the one who took over from Strauss Kahn after his adventures in the USA as the IMF head.
And she is German. It's coming to me slowly. I recognize the pictures on the chat.
And her name is... well, she was the...
Ursula van der Leiden?
No, no, not her. No. Christine Lagarde. That's it. Christine Lagarde, yeah.
She became... I don't know why, but the IMF had Strauss Kahn, who was German, of course, and then Christine Lagarde.
I think that photograph is of her. But I don't know why they have two Germans in a row.
And then I read somewhere that they always have a German. Whether that's true or not, I don't know.
But we only have to look to see who the president, head of the IMF is, and we'd find out.
Yeah.
If it's not her, of course.
Very good. Well, thank you for that. Yes, Christine Lagarde. And they're all picked.
The 14th of June flag honouring, Leigh Vleet in her press release, I'll post here, I'll dig it out.
And she was pointing out that the highest levels of the military are attacking their own military
and weakening it through the jab mandates.
So while we're... this is very good. Are there any announcements or comments on The Great Awakening?
Because I think it's very important that we share, all of us, broader, as John Baudwin said, and as Mickey...
As John knows, Mickey, this movie is not for us as much as those who want to see this mix of what's been happening,
of G. Edward Griffin. It's a very interesting transposition of him from 30 or 40 years ago saying the same thing.
So any other thoughts or comments on The Great Awakening? Or any other announcements?
Christine, your favourite German.
I can't find raise your hand thing. So I'm happy to wait after Celia, but can you just have me in the queue?
Yes, you'll be after Celia and then Mark Dybb will put his hand up. Celia.
You're muted, Celia.
You're still muted, Celia.
OK, there we go. Hi, everybody.
Hi.
Fascinating conversation. So I was there at the premiere in Austin.
Mickey Willis invited me. I thought the film was stunning and I was very, very happily surprised to see the root cause as being
what he described via G. Edward Griffin as, you know, you've all seen it, right, as having actually, and I'm just going to call it a Marxist root before I sort of complicate it a little bit.
I feel that all through my time in this with HIV AIDS and now COVID, I think I've been at odds somewhat with some of my colleagues, certainly in HIV descent, in that they felt it was a byproduct of capitalism, that it was greed, that it was a matter of
mutating as a capitalist organ and needing to sell all these drugs and later vaccines, whereas I felt, I think I said, you know, when I spoke to you all the other week, I grew up in, I guess you might say, a soft socialist country, namely Sweden.
So I felt like I had these receptors where I was recognizing things and patterns and ominous things from a socialist system that a lot of people, I was, you know, we were trying to make heads or tails of it.
And generally speaking, the critique only went as far as this must have something to do with greed. And I always felt like, no, we're completely, we're completely not even in the right part of the ballpark, not that that isn't by itself true.
Okay, so first I just wanted to say how happy I was that Mickey Willis, you know, that he went there and he went there boldly. And I was wondering afterwards, what would happen in terms of would we all start arguing about it?
I haven't had that many people to talk about it with yet. My friend Mark Crispin Miller is the person I usually have this argument with about Marxism this way and that.
I wanted to say, picking up on what the previous speaker said, and I'm sorry, I don't remember her name.
Paola Amaldi.
Right. Okay. It was about on the subject of infiltration and how America didn't, who was that?
It was Paola.
Paola. Okay. So yeah, picking up on what Paola said. So I have here a book which I want to strongly urge everybody who's interested in all of this to read.
It's by Soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky, and it's called Judgment in Moscow, Soviet Crimes and Western Complicity. Vladimir Bukovsky, Judgment in Moscow, Soviet Crimes and Western Complicity.
And you can see all my, it's all highlighted. Now I got to, I was invited to receive the book, read the book and interview Bukovsky before he died a few years ago.
And it was the publisher that found me and invited me to that and I did a two part series on him in the Epoch Times.
So the premise of this stunning work, which was 20 years on the ocean floor before it was brought back up, it was torpedoed by Random House, because the editor there said the things you're saying, our readers can't tolerate this kind of thing.
So what was he saying? So Bukovsky went into the KGB archives during that period when Putin opened the KGB archives for reasons I guess we don't really know.
And he had a little Japanese handheld, not screener, what do you call it? What do you call it when you take pictures of paper?
Scanner.
Scanner. Thank you. Japanese handheld scanner.
And he found documentation of the money trail between the Kremlin and the West, and it was every television network, for example in the United States, ABC, NBC, CBS, it was filmmakers such as for example Francis Ford Coppola.
It was every imaginable bookstore and club and organization, money, money, money flowing in. So they were receiving money from the Kremlin all throughout the Cold War.
And I don't mean it was one long endless slush fund from any particular, I mean all of them were pretty much on the take. And, and the reciprocity was to put out soft or hard propaganda for the Soviet Union.
So, all kinds of soft soaping of the history.
I don't know how much that surprises a lot of people here but it's it's an absolutely stunning and very forensic book.
So I suppose my point is just to say this very sensitive issue when I go there in my sub stack and I write about, and I use, you know, the C word communism.
It's not pushback but it's like healthy pushback so we're still kind of hammering it out. I mentioned my friend Mark Krista Miller, who's a big fighter a great fighter in all of this, NYU professor, what he says is to me you have to understand you
the word communism in this country how it hits the American ear.
He's basically he says it very respectfully but that that it just people are going to shut down because of what went down in the American version.
And when America tussled with the communist specter.
Probably that was a Soviet Psyop as well, the McCarthy chapter.
And so it wound up that in America you can't mention communism because of Joseph McCarthy.
And with that said, I think that coven has every single year fingerprint and earmark of communist Psyop and communist ideology in it so I just take the position that to say that it isn't that I think first we need to stay there on that on that and talk about
And then we can kind of branch out and say it's all these other things. I think the more accurate word today is globalism or internationalism. But what's great about what I think it's totalitarianism.
So Marxism is a is a manifestation of totalitarianism a method of getting there if you like, in my opinion, right. And there are several other methods.
So someone tried to explain to me recently, I can't remember who it was.
But whoever it was, was pretty perceptive and said, they turned around, they realized that China.
They could actually operate totalitarianism in a capitalist state. So China has become a capitalist state.
And they thought this is the model we want. It's the China model. And it doesn't matter what you think about China as a country and its people.
I think it could well be the case that they thought, yeah, if we want capitalism, we need to have the controls as per in China, you know, the social social credit system and all that nonsense.
And and of course, to impose that kind of totalitarianism on the whole world, not one country, you need huge breaches of of our freedoms.
And and so the whole all this nonsense that's going in on at the moment, you know, the endless deadly pandemics narrative, which I don't believe the Ukraine war.
The climate change narrative, the nonsense and the ridiculous trans narrative.
They're all manifestations, I think, of attempts to impose totalitarianism.
And they maintained by propaganda, ruthless propaganda and lies.
And we've seen a lot of that in the last three years.
I think the story is becoming clearer with every week that's passing to some of us.
And but it's very interesting to listen to you, Celia, because you you use fantastic words and you've got very great ideas.
So please carry on. Oh, thank you.
And thank you for that feedback. Yeah, I think what I've always.
So when COVID hit 2020, to simplify a little bit, it felt to me like most people were caught completely off guard in the so-called West.
And I think that's the danger is that this beast grows and grows in its kind of secret layers and then it pounces.
And we've done a lot of scientific deconstruction brilliantly.
So many people. But I feel like what Mickey's Willis is doing now and what I think we're all going to be doing going forward is trying to figure out where the hell did this thing come from?
And I happen to think he's over the target in terms of if we look at 2020.
So Clifford Lane, who's pretty much number two under Fauci here in the States, was at an airport.
And he got a text from Fauci. This was reported by John Cohen in Science.
I guess, I guess John Cohen writes for Science and Cliff Lane.
The text said you're going to China. So he goes to China, Cliff Lane, and it's part of a United Nations.
I'm sorry, it's part of a WHO delegation. I think the number was 13.
They were 13 representatives from different countries, kind of like a field trip for COVID, where the CCP China showed these delegates.
This is how you're going to deal with COVID when you get back to your country.
So Cliff Lane shows up, according to reportage, in Fauci's office, kind of breathlessly saying, oh, you know how the Chinese did it.
That's how we're going to do it. And so America tried to simulate a Chinese model.
We're not, we're not, we don't make good Chinese, right?
So a lot of the wheels came off of this thing. But I sensed in the beginning that it was specifically a CCP download and model.
And I sort of feel like it didn't work. It misfired precisely because we are not trained in this country to obey state command.
But they introduced that very quickly, state command. And I do think the ideas were Maoist or Marxist or Leninist or whatever to call them.
Like very selfish of you to want to visit your grandmother.
The whole, I spoke to Mary Holland about it. She was also there. And she said, how about the word collectivism? Because Mickey used that word also.
So like Mark, she felt just that word communism, it just misfires. You know, don't use that word.
So, you know, we can all quibble about that. But I want to just establish the guilt trips, the psyops, the ideas, the themes to all of woke, to the trans agenda, all of it.
I feel is essentially Maoist. And that helps me at least make heads or tails of it when I can't make heads or tails of it.
I can't just call it capitalism. And I can't just say it's totalitarian or fascist because I don't get enough clarity when I do that, if that makes sense.
Yep. Beautifully said. Thank you, Sylvia. We've got a lot of hands. We've got a lot of hands up. Beautifully expressed. Thank you. And that book again, could you put the author's spelling in there? It's Judgment in Moscow.
Bukovsky. How do you spell Bukovsky?
B-U-K-O-V-S-K-Y. Vladimir Bukovsky.
Bukovsky. Thank you.
By the way, Charles, I'll forget if I don't say it now. I was reminded of a little booklet. It's not a book. It's a booklet, which I've had for many years.
I think I got it during my student days. And it's Alexander Solzhenitsyn's Warning to the Western World. I haven't never read it. And now I'm trying to find it in the house.
Okay, so anybody got a PDF of it? Good point, Stephen. Someone might have a PDF. So we'll be able to save you looking in the house, Stephen.
Yeah. Warning to the Western World. And I wonder what that warning was.
Yeah, very good.
Because Alexander Solzhenitsyn ended up in the USA, as you remember. And he was asked why he wasn't writing anymore when he was in the US. He said, I'm too comfortable. I can only write when I'm suffering. All words to that effect.
Interesting. Interesting. So creativity for him comes through suffering.
Thank you. Thank you, Sylvia. So Warning to the World, everybody.
Warning to the Western World. Interesting.
Warning to the Western World. Thank you.
I always wondered what it was about. I never read it. I don't know why I didn't read it. But now, of course, it would be very interesting to read it.
Thank you. All right, Mark, then Kat.
Thanks, Charles.
We were talking about things that we can do, right, to awake people.
My wife has been writing to our MP, right, the Health Minister, and she's been unsuccessful.
And so she sent the letter that she wrote to the Conservative woman. I'll put it in the chat. I'll put it in the chat again. It's conservativewoman.co.uk.
And she got the letter published. Now, I think that that is a that's a first. And I think that's the type of thing we will possibly to be if we're not being answered by our MP, we need to find another source to actually get them to publish it.
And she is subscribed to the Conservative woman. And it's got quite a large following.
Including all the including Mark, all the Conservative MPs, apparently.
Oh, they probably don't read it.
No, they read it to find out what their constituents are thinking, or what they could be thinking.
Very good.
That's a good point.
I'll put it in the chat again.
Thank you. That's a good point that Mark makes because there are, you know, the, the mainstream media is shifting away because it can feel the wind. There's many more of us now pushing back against this. So thank you, Mark. That's great news from Hamin.
Kat.
Thank you, Charles and Stephen.
I put in the chat about the new project we're doing. It's called globalhealthproject.org.
It is about starting conversations. So what happened doesn't happen again. It's about empowering people to participate in their health, but also trying to reach physicians who are realizing what's happening but are not speaking out.
The movie was done by Mickey Willis. So it's very much similar to the pandemic kind of theme.
And if everyone, anyone has any questions, please give me a call or email me. And I have been doing interviews this past week so there's a lot of interviews out there regarding this.
Paula, if we can talk on Telegram, I would like to do one in Italian because this is a global initiative. I'm doing several in UK next week.
And I know that people are not happy with the word patient, specifically, but there's the word that everyone recognizes. So that's why we're using, you know, restoring trust in patient physician relationships so these things don't happen again.
We specifically talk about WHN, what's happening, and that's why we need to kind of regain trust and rebuild these relationships. Our next project will be specifically on children and what's happening in that world.
I'm not going to say too much, but again we're hoping we're going to do the movie with Mickey and push forward. So this is only one project. This is not the rest of what we're going to do. So thank you all.
Kat, the movie is on the website, is it?
Yes, it's on globalhelpproject.org. We have the eight minute video which is the full movie and then we have two minutes, one minute and 30 minutes that anyone can share.
And, you know, if anyone is interested and needs would like to have a conversation on a podcast or whatever, please let me know because I think it's an important initiative, specifically because we're targeting what's happening with WHO and the new lockdowns and initiatives are coming from there.
Beautiful.
Great work. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you, Kat. Paula get interviewed by Kat. Hello, Karen with your great work. KK I love those initials you know that.
Thanks for hosting this again. I have an announcement and I also want to answer a question I was asked when I was on a year ago.
So the announcement is, I did a film with Stu Peters called Final Days. It's just one hour long. And I'll be very honest with everyone I was apprehensive about being doing the movie because I'm very analytical and just documents and we really go into the spiritual warfare and talk about the nanotechnology
and that this is a spiritual battle we you know they open up talking about the demonic, you know, desire to destroy God's creations and I was out of my comfort zone, but it's worth an hour to watch.
And then it forced me to do a lot more analysis to really look into the engineered nanoparticles and to answer what caused COVID-19 is on my sub stack but they were all engineered nanoparticles.
So these synthetic pathogens go back to 1984 that that's the earliest I found with HIV is a synthetic engineered nanoparticle or synthetic pathogen.
And then we've really been assaulted with the nanoparticle technology, the engineered nanoparticles, but since around 2007 in our food supply.
And, you know, air attacks and whatnot and then I think people know that Biden passed a sin bio, I think it was $100 billion budget just a couple weeks ago.
I've been attending synthetic bio conferences via zoom, and there is a trillion dollar industry that's going to be $30 trillion in about 10 years.
And their goal is to merge every biological life form with technology, and they don't see anything wrong with it.
And this is causing.
This is causing the decrease in fertility obviously nanoparticles love going to the brain. So that's what's causing some of the autism, the depression, the mood swings the distancing.
So this is truly an assault on God's creations and I, in the last two months. I have just been appalled that that one of the calls they said, they called ranchers dumb because they didn't want to synthetically grow meat in a lab, and not have to worry about supply chain.
And they said we know that they're not intelligent because they didn't know the difference in size between an atom and electron, and I just couldn't believe the hubris, you know, so they are, they are being gods and they don't see anything wrong with it.
They're good people.
They may like a lot of the plant based meat is from embryonic cells from animals.
They didn't disclose which animals. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah.
Thank you, Karen for that. So your movie where can we find your movie.
Final Days is on rumble or on Steve theaters.com. Thank you rumble everybody take a look at it. It's, again, it was out of my comfort zone it's an hour.
The producers from died suddenly I thought they did a very good job, and we're going to take it to churches, and then my sub stack, there's a demand letter up there I've been working with sheriffs in Florida.
And we are, I don't know, come, you know, come my last breath I'm going to get a county to remove the shots so there's there's useful information on my sub stack.
Beautiful. Thank you Karen great work you do I follow your work and everybody please count is doing some great investigative work. Thank you.
John be John.
What is it, we came on the sloop john be my grandfather and me around NASA town. Okay john over to you.
I was, I was listening.
Usually I get the Johnny be a bunch, bunch of money. So, you guys, you guys are talking capitalism versus socialism. And one mistake.
I think it's mistake. It's my opinion.
A lot of people make is socialism means something different to people in Europe than it does to Americans and people elsewhere.
It's generally considered a good thing like in Sweden. And when Bernie Sanders talks about socialism being great and references Sweden.
He's not talking about the same thing. You know, are the, the colloquial use of socialism here is more toward communism is just state control of, you know, manufactured goods.
But I like the fact that somebody brought up collectivism because that's where I usually go with it. So all economies are mixed economies. Let's just start there.
You know, they're, it's okay. China's communist. All right, but they do have aspects that are capitalist now.
And they've come a long way. And the big mistake that the United States intelligence, if you will, made was thinking that, well, when they get a taste of capitalism, they're going to lose their communism.
Yeah, right.
So everybody's mixed economy. It's really important to understand that because when you have people talking on a call like this from everywhere in the world, they're just words and the words have different meanings and people are talking past each other.
Like, what do you mean by socialism? Is it control of everything? Okay, military? Yeah, well, that makes sense. The government's going to control the military. But what about medicine? Let's go right to health care.
You know, in England, it might be one way Canada and then US was different. And we're moving toward the centralism centralization of health care, which obviously is the least efficient system.
You always wanted to have distributed processing, not central processing. That is the least efficient system where people you lose people at the margins. What I mean by that is, if you gear everything towards central intelligence, information and control.
There's used to come in and look at the patient right in front of them. They didn't bring in their wheelie cart with the laptop, you know, the laptop laptop on the wheelie table. And they're talking to you and they're typing in all their stuff.
And the laptop tells them how to treat you because they don't want to get sued. They don't want to lose their license. So they're going to do what the laptop says. It used to be that the doctor made a decision on his own.
That would be distributed processing central processing. When I say you lose people at the margins. If somebody has something different out of the norm, they're going to be misdiagnosed by the central authority.
They're not going to be in the mainstream of medicine. So when you when you central process everything, what it does is it makes efficient the pecuniary nature of the market, but not the negative externalities.
In other words, people are going to die. The people who have weird stuff, they're not going to get treated properly. They're going to die. And and it's going to be when I say pecuniary.
That's great because the government's going to spend less money, but having to take care of the people at the margins. Now back to the economies of mixed versus socialism versus capitalism.
So let's say let's look at South America. I put it in the chat South America versus North America is an example I made up years ago.
We have about the exact same natural resources and human capital in North and South America, very similar.
And yet over the past hundred and fifty to 200 years, America has thrived and South America has not.
America was founded on individualism where they first came from England and the Netherlands, I believe, too.
And they wanted to be individuals. They wanted to have their own, you know, the Puritans. They wanted to get away and do their own thing.
Just leave me alone. That type of individualism of branches off of Christianity, they were able to create things like the Colt revolver and the cotton gin.
And and all the inventions that America's made because our culture is a bunch of individual religions, individual people.
We protect property rights. We created the whole patent. I don't know if we created it.
It probably existed before the United States, but we adhere to the property rights of patents and copyrights.
And that whole thing was able to get us to invent a whole bunch of things and make the world go really fast with technology.
And then you look at South America. They're all one religion. They used to be all Catholic. It's all centrally controlled out of the Vatican.
John, very collectivism. So Catholics were all collectivists. United States, can I just say that major difference?
Sorry, Stephen, go ahead. No, I just want to say that Christine Anderson has texted me and said sorry about that.
So she had kind of I don't know what I've forgotten or whatever. I could do it myself.
So the good news is that she's trying to get on. So hopefully there's a space for it because I noticed it was a yes, it's not.
It's not. Is it 97 there so she can come in? So but John, carry on now.
I just wanted to say before we lost you probably don't want to listen to me complain anyway.
That's kind of a standard speech I give about socialism versus capitalism.
People are caught up in the words and the government's dividing you based on two words.
I agree, John. So exactly. So if we especially when we're dealing with people from other cultures as we are, then we're having parallel conversations much of the time.
Or at least the risk is that. Yeah.
And and Stephen, I saw a report or John, you might know this from the states that many kids these days reckon socialism is social media.
I haven't heard that. Yeah, I saw a report.
A serious report that survey show.
They think socialism is being sociable.
Yeah, survey shows that people are very stupid.
All right. Here we have some market power.
Christine's on here somewhere.
So market power will do you later. Welcome. Welcome.
Stay with your we've got. Hi, I'm sorry about being late.
But we ran into some traffic, so I do apologize.
It's absolutely OK, Christine. It's very unusual.
I know that.
Well, I'm the exception to the rule, I guess.
Yeah. Good job you are. Good job you are.
Why is it echoing?
You think you're.
Ah, yes, it's going somewhere.
He'll know the answer.
Someone will know the answer that.
Have you got two devices on Christine?
No, I don't.
Is there an echo?
Yeah, yeah, it's coming through.
Because suppression was turned off.
It's just a bit of software, but you can't do anything now.
OK, well, that's not too good.
Can you guys hear me OK?
Or is it really is it is it?
I think it may be disturbing.
It's still echoing a little bit.
She talks.
What do you say?
Let her talk.
Stephen, we'll listen to Christine because we can hear you quite well.
Christine.
OK, it's just that we can hear Charles twice.
And me don't like it.
What I could do is I could kill the mic on my PC and come on.
For audio via my phone.
Maybe that'll work.
Yes, that would be Christine.
Do you have earphones that might also work?
It seems to be working OK now.
Let's try this.
Yes, it's OK now.
That's because Christine's muted.
Try that now, Christine.
Christine, you're muted now.
It's coming in on her phone.
You still muted, Christine.
There's 100 people in.
She might not be able to get in on her phone.
Yes, that's a good.
Well, yeah, thank you.
Christine, you can't come through on your phone because we're at maximum.
She's muted.
She can't hear you.
She can't hear me.
If Christine.
Now she's not muted.
All right.
OK, so I guess we're going to have to make it work this way then.
Oh, it's 98 now.
You can get in now if you tried, Christine.
Sorry to be.
At this rate, we'll manage to make you, Christine, indecisive.
That's some achievement.
Recording.
Whoa.
OK, can you hear me now?
Yes.
And no echo.
Brilliant.
Excellent.
Then we'll do it that way.
Of course, now I have an echo.
Excellent.
Yes, I heard that too.
That's weird.
OK.
Yeah, it's working now.
Can you hear me?
Yep.
Yes.
OK.
Brilliant.
Very good.
You've muted yourself on the computer and you unmuted yourself on the phone.
So now it works, Christine.
OK, excellent.
So we can see you find your hair is extremely shiny.
Yeah, well.
OK, so what can I do for you guys?
So, Christine, I think if you could talk to us, because you have family who suffered under a totalitarian regime, namely East Germany.
And I think your father was imprisoned, wasn't he?
By political reasons.
So you know about totalitarianism.
And in your speeches, you've been talking about this in the European Parliament.
The problem is, I think a lot of people assume that everybody understands what totalitarianism is, but I don't think people do.
Not many people anyway.
So if you could give us a kind of ABC of totalitarianism, if you're able to do that on the fly, as it were, that would be really great, because that's what people need to hear.
OK.
OK, so, yeah, totalitarianism.
Totalitarianism is quite different from what a dictatorship would be like.
A dictatorship, a dictator, his only objection is to remain in power.
And once he has achieved that and he's fairly stable and it's all stabilized, his power, he will still be arbitrary and pass laws or whatever.
But a dictator will not go to great length to make everyone think what he thinks.
So that's the big difference to a totalitarian regime, because a totalitarian regime will always strive to have all the people think the same thing, and they will come up with new things that the people then have to believe in.
And they will not stop until everyone is exactly on the same page and until they've totally controlled whatever people are even thinking anymore.
And let alone you are not allowed to speak outside of the allowed narrative.
And so that that really is what totalitarianism is.
And it's the most horrific governing regime, if you will, to inflict on people, because they will simply not stop.
The only good thing about a totalitarian regime, it will always collapse sooner or later on its own, because you cannot get all the people to think the same thing.
You can only kill off so many people until there's only a few left or something like that, but it will really get down and control your very thought and everything.
So that's the big difference. And when I'm talking about totalitarianism, and I do see that we are sliding into a totalitarian regime.
I'm not using that term lightly. I use it very consciously and I know fully well what I'm saying when I speak that or when I say that we are about to become subjects of totalitarianism.
You see it everywhere. And the reason I'm so adamant about this and trying to warn people about this is in fact, I may not have, I myself may not have experienced totalitarianism, but my family has.
My parents were born and raised in Thuringen, which used to be in GDR, and they were born in the 20s. So my dad fought in World War Two.
Then he came home, ended up being a prisoner of war with the Americans, was released and found himself in communism. And he spoke up against this.
And well, it didn't go down too well, as you can imagine. So he was arrested in 1950 by the Russians, by the way.
And he was sentenced to 25 years of hard labor to Bautzen, which is one of the most horrific prisons, political prisons you can even imagine.
And luckily only had to serve five years of his sentence. He was then released and he still wouldn't shut up.
And he was about to get arrested a second time. That was in 59. But by that time, he was warned. And he fled GDR on Saturday before Easter.
He fled GDR in 1959. So my mom and my two older sisters followed in 61.
So I was lucky enough to have been born and raised in Western Germany. But I've been so close to GDR.
My entire family, everyone lived in GDR, except for me, my siblings and my parents. So we travel there quite often.
And I can tell you, just going there as visitors, we were terrified because there was no telling what they're going to do to us.
You know, they might take our car apart, you know, trying to find something. We were trying to smuggle into GDR or out of GDR, whichever way.
So just being at their mercy and they enjoyed it so much. It's like this, this was pure terror, what they inflicted on us.
Just, you know, wanting to visit our family, my family there. But it's like I detested and just seeing what I'm seeing now, that looks all too familiar.
And if you really went back, and I have, being German, having had this very dark spot in our history, these horrible 12 years.
Yeah, well, you kind of need to get into that and you kind of need to to really look what happened.
What happened? How was it even possible? Because the thing is this, the German people back then, I mean, they were well educated.
They were the number one leading nation in science, poetry, classical music. I mean, we were a civilized country.
But yet it was possible to turn an entire society into an evil one. And that's what happened.
How was it possible? And I'm telling you, just look at what happened the last three years.
How vast majority, vast part of every single society in the Western democracies just turned downright evil when it came to the unvaccinated.
I mean, they were ready to transport us off to camps, given half the chance they probably would have.
So that kind of kind of should send down some shivers, you know, your spine just realizing that.
And it was just what it was a matter of weeks, a matter of weeks.
And it was open season on, you know, whatever culprit they made out to be, which in that case happened to be the ones that refused to take that mRNA shot.
So, yeah, if you don't think that we are on the way into a totalitarian regime, you better think again.
Like I said, the last three years are a very, very big tale of that.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you, Christine. And a lot of people.
What would you say to the people who say, oh, well, totalitarianism could never happen in the UK or the USA or Italy again after Mussolini or Germany after Hitler?
What would you say to those people or Sweden, for example, who think that's wonderful?
I would I would tell them you are making a very, very big mistake because anyone just dismissing it and saying, oh, well, you know, something like totalitarianism as in Nazi Germany, this can only happen, you know, because the Germans are so evil.
Don't make that mistake. Seriously, don't, because then you have no mechanisms at all to fight it off when it does hit your country.
No, the thing is this. And that's what people need to understand.
We all want to be good persons. Of course we do.
But we also have to embrace that we are capable of conflicting horrible things on our fellow mankind and our neighbors.
We are capable of doing that.
It is a conscious choice not to. That's our humanity not to do it.
But if you don't do not deal with that part, that's within every single person on this planet.
If you do not deal with that part within yourself, then you have no guards to to prevent that evilness from from coming out and stepping out.
And that's the thing. So please do not make the mistake of thinking this could never happen in your society.
Once again, look at what happened the last three years.
But there you have it. There you have it. It did happen.
It didn't happen to an extent as it did back in the 30s.
Thankful. Thank God it didn't.
But had it gone on for something much longer, for a little bit longer, what do you think would have happened?
And so. So I think that human beings, all of us need to be aware that we're capable of great good.
We're also capable of great evil.
And I think that one of the best ways I've heard somebody was trying to explain to me.
And he said that so-called civilized people, civilized in inverted commas people, would eat you in the right circumstances.
If it meant that they were saving their own, they would eat you.
And so they're not very civilized.
So so the point is, it is a question of how should I say ethics, the way you behave, morals, if you like.
And but having said that, if the situation were to get so bad that actually we were pitted against each other,
we actually none of us probably knows what we're capable of doing.
But having said that, if you betrayed yourself to that level, you wouldn't want to live anywhere.
At least I wouldn't. Right.
But I think the difference is this.
I mean, I absolutely agree with you.
Let's let's talk about what what if there was a power outage?
You know, OK, so we lose all power and, you know, it's gone on for 12 hours, 24 hours, 48 hours.
OK, at that point, you are it's a matter of life and death.
It's either you survive or your neighbors survive.
And people really have no clue what you're capable of doing in instances like that.
And, you know, it's kind of like when when people are being told, well, you hate you, you hate foreigners.
You know, you don't like foreign people coming to your country.
This is absolutely ridiculous.
And of course, people always tend to be closer to their own than rather than other people.
So obviously, I mean, can you can you play me as a mother that I love my children more than the neighbors?
Can you honestly blame me for this?
No, you cannot, because if that weren't the case, then mankind would have been extinct a long time ago.
It's as simple as that. Will I look after my neighbor's kids if they are in need?
Will I give them food if they're if they're going hungry?
Of course, I will. I always will.
But make no mistake, if it comes down to whether my kid gets food or the neighbor's kids get food, guess what?
I will prefer my own kid.
But these are situations that is life and death.
And like I said, people, if they think we live in a civilized society and if power outage does occur, we're all going to love each other.
No, we will not. People will turn on each other rather quickly.
But what we've seen the last three years, however, was different.
It wasn't a life of matter. It wasn't a matter of life and death.
It was simply people were being terrorized.
They were being, you know, kept in fear.
They were being told we're all going to die if we don't do A, B, C and D.
And that's what made it possible.
And when people turn in situations like that, they just go nuts like they did and rat out their neighbors because they have two people sitting on the balcony and it was only allowed for one to sit there or whatever.
Or you're now telling people you are not even allowed to celebrate Christmas if you're not vaccinated.
Doing all of this, throwing people out of buses because they didn't wear their masks correctly.
I mean, that wasn't that wasn't the situation of life and death.
But yet people went evil. They just did.
They were down with people. So that's the difference.
Christine, my observation, it wasn't a matter of life and death, but it was a matter of good versus evil.
It was always a matter of that.
Exactly. That's what they made. That's what they made it out to be.
So many people are a bad person.
Exactly. So many people let themselves down hugely by not realizing that it was a war between good and evil.
Exactly. But that's just what people were being told.
And, you know, generally people, they want to be good.
That's one of the psychological mechanisms that totalitarianism uses.
The people want to be good and they want to be among the good people.
They don't want to belong to the outcasts and the people that don't obey.
They want to be good. So if the government insists, OK, if you want to belong to the group of the good people,
then you have to do A, B, C, and D. And you will have to do whatever I tell you to.
And not only is that enough. No.
You also have to make sure that everyone else behaves just like we tell them to.
And that's what makes a society to go evil.
That's the mechanism here.
Sure. And encouraging people to welch on their neighbors to...
Yeah. Well, that's another aspect of totalitarianism.
They need to make sure that no one, absolutely no one, steps out of line.
And that's why they will recruit the people from within society to make sure that that won't happen.
I mean, in GDR, you know, there were children ratting out their parents to the authorities.
Look at China. You know, there is people, they don't even think twice about delivering their own parents to get executed or whatever.
They don't think twice about it.
But also, Christine, so-called Western democracies weren't allowed to criticize China, for example, for the one child policy.
Exactly.
In the interests, allegedly, of trade or whatever, you know.
Exactly. And you know what they're doing now? You know what's happening in China now?
They realize with their one child policy, it was detrimental and they are now suffering from a lack of births.
Sure.
They now have women, they have to report every month to the authorities to confirm, yes, they've had their menstruation and yes, they technically are capable of being impregnated.
That's what China is doing now. Now they're pushing for a three child agenda.
And God forbid, Christine, the mainstream media hadn't been able to report that kind of thing about China for a long time.
Exactly.
So the last governor of Hong Kong was someone called Chris Patton.
And everybody was looking forward to his autobiography or his memories of his time in Hong Kong.
Because in 1997, for those who don't know, Hong Kong was given over to China by the UK.
And that was a longstanding agreement.
And the British, I wasn't very happy about it, handed over Hong Kong because the people of Hong Kong, of course, didn't want that.
So essentially, the UK betrayed Hong Kong to China.
But the point was that this guy, Chris Patton, who, by the way, was touted by many as a future prime minister of the UK.
Not that that's a big position at the moment, it seems.
But anyway, he wrote a book about his and it was really being looked forward to.
And then it was called. And I so and then I noticed that the one of the senior editors at the publishing house, which is a very well, I can't remember which one it was in the UK, resigned.
Because he was the editor who had had most to do with Chris Patton and Chris Patton, whatever his agenda was, he really wanted this book published, I believe.
And so did this editor who resigned from he resigned his top position at the publishing house.
And the fish, the reason so I was told was that this happened in his book was critical of China and the UK didn't want that.
So what is that about?
Yeah.
If I if I only knew.
I, I, I don't know, I really don't know.
But all I know is, I mean, you know, the, the, the course China took, you know, Maoism and all that the culture revolution, which I don't know how many million Chinese were killed by trying to establish that.
And, yeah, and then it kind of looked like for a few years that China would open up and would in fact, you know, become more westernized if you if you want to call it that.
Yeah, but there was at least 2010 around it was done with, you know, then teaching ping. He pretty much took over. And I think it was 2000. Yeah, might might have been 2012 something something around that time.
There was a document. It was for internal news only among the Chinese GDP party. And it's, it's called document number nine. And it pretty much lays out what the new China is going to be.
And it is pretty much. Yeah.
They declare war on western values, you know, and they spoke specifically about, you know, human rights, rule of law, democracy. This is all stuff they do not want in China. And like I said, the ground was laid for that document 2012 I think it was.
So they were determined to break down civil society.
And what they, what they mean by that is, you have pretty much break up the families break up any social ties that anyone could have could rely on, because what a totalitarian regime really needs people to be is totally dependent upon the state, the government, the party, whoever, whoever is in charge.
And that's, yeah, pretty much they have to destroy the family because that's the strongest bond you have, because it's a natural bond to bond by blood. And as long as you have a family, and the state has has really no, no way of totally controlling you.
So they need to destroy all of that. Yeah.
So they actually what they really want, Christine, is for people to love the state, rather than their own family.
Exactly. And they want they need people to be isolated. And that we've been seeing that too in the last three years. You know, constantly the people were being told via the mainstream media, you know all these people protesting, they're just you know, enemies of public health
They're enemies of our state of democracy, they're right wing extremists, whatever. And yet, kind of like trying to get people to to think they are all alone in their way of thinking, you know, so that's that's isolation.
Yeah, gaslighting, if you will. And that lighting is psychological abuse. And that's what the government has been doing the past three years. And that was the start. I mean, you know, it was just perfect, but they needed that to establish new ground rules.
I mean, you know, fundamental rights are now privileges, which a government can or cannot grant depending on how you know how you behave. And they'll take it away. And yeah, a big part of society, they were all for it.
I mean, they were begging for even more of these infringements on fundamental rights. And the government was wasn't strict enough for them. So that just goes to show how easily you can gaslight an entire society into thinking they are doing the right thing and they are just doing it for the greater good.
And when you are able to convince people to do something for the greater good. Oh my god, they are on a mission at that point. And there is no stopping them. And anyone, I mean, if anyone can make you believe absurdities, well guess what they can do to get you to inflict atrocities on others.
I worked out in my head, very well, not so in the last three years, that Germany was possible. So the people who fund the wars, especially the World Wars, are our enemies. We don't know exactly who they are, but we couldn't mention names.
But so somebody got me thinking about the Second World War. And I realized that actually before the First World War, certainly, Germany was probably the most civilized country in existence. More civilized, you know, regarded, so very highly regarded for science.
But look, if you love music or literature, then Germany is the place for you as well. So these people, so the best things in humanity were in Germany pre 1914 and pre 1939.
So I wondered whether Germany was actually targeted because it represented the best that human. So if you have an anti-human agenda, as we've noted in the last three years, then you target the best examples or the previous best examples.
So they targeted Germany then. And now, in the last three years, and for a long time, it's been going on, actually, the West has been targeted, the US and the UK have been targeted.
So, so these bastards at the top really don't care what happens to humanity. They want to, in my opinion, they want to destroy the best that humanity has to offer. And if that means taking out Germany in 1918 and in 1939.
And they were incredibly successful with Germany because Germany still hasn't recovered its reputation from the Second World War, very sadly, for the Germans.
I always thought that was unfair. I taught my children that what happened in Germany, this was way a long time ago. Well, not that long ago, but I taught them that what happened in Germany could happen in any country in the world.
And I wonder, so it looks to me like Western democracies were targeted in 2020 and before, but particularly in 2020 was more obvious. And, and that Germany was targeted before and the whole thing was an anti-human agenda in 1914, in 1939, and now.
And I just wondered what you, what you think about that, or is it a bit fanciful?
Well, no, that is, that is definitely an interesting aspect, which I will not elaborate on because being German that might actually let me in jail for doing so, that could be considered trivializing the Holocaust to just entertain such a notion.
So I wasn't criticizing, I want to be clear, I was not criticizing Germany.
It's all good. It's all good, Stephen. It's just, no, it's a very interesting aspect, but me as a German, I simply cannot elaborate on that.
I absolutely understand you.
Because of our penal code, it's just as simple as that, you know. So anyway, but it is a very interesting theory.
However, we don't even have to go that far.
Yes, there is an agenda to take away fundamental rights to abolish democracy, the rule of law, and in all of the Western democracies, because democracy is a nuisance for those who want to be in charge, who want to control everyone, maybe even establish
a one world government, which, you know, 10 years ago, you might have left your butts off for anyone even suggesting such a stupid thing.
But here we are. And we are seeing it.
Just look at what they're doing. Like I said, COVID was just a test balloon. That digital Korean certificate, it was just a test balloon to get people used to having to show something.
And more importantly, they turned our societies, which consisted of free citizens, into societies that were made up of threats.
We are no threats to everyone, because, you know, asymptomatic infection and all of that. So you had to prove that you were not a threat to public health.
And they did so via this digital Korean certificate.
And guess what? Now it's going global. I don't know if you've heard two or three days ago.
And one of the, what's his name, Tedro from WHO, he just announced that they will adopt the digital Korean certificate that the EU Commission came up with to harass and ostracize their own citizens.
And they will adopt this and turn it into a global digital health certificate.
Of course, it's just to facilitate travel and keeping everyone safe and all of this. No, it's not about that at all. It is about control once again.
So the next one we'll have, we'll have climate lockdowns. Look in Great Britain.
They are far ahead with that agenda.
There's already been legislation that's been passed in different provinces that enable them to enforce climate lockdowns. Why do you think they're erecting these 15 minute city ghettos everywhere?
I mean, it's not for your convenience. It's not for, you know, reducing the carbon footprint. It's not to save the planet. It's to control people and lock them in.
Look what they're doing. They're not erecting libraries, schools or leisure parks or, you know, whatever. No, they're erecting barricades and surveillance cameras.
Why in the hell would you need any of that? A 15 minute neighborhood was such a brilliant idea.
You wouldn't need to force people to stay there if it was so great.
But that's what they want to do.
So I see that. Just one last thing very quickly, Charles. So Christine, we talked about this yesterday. I suggested to you and you agreed.
Well, you don't have to agree tonight, though. But we talked about the endless deadly pandemics, which are not possible in my view as a doctor.
The climate change agenda, manmade climate change. How ridiculous.
The Ukraine war nonsense and the trans nonsense, all of these supported by massive propaganda and anybody and censorship, which are all hallmarks of totalitarianism.
So we talked about, I think I suggested to you these four things that I've just mentioned now, there may be more, but those are the four obvious ones that stick out in my mind at the moment.
They are Trojan horses to impose global totalitarianism and people on this call need to understand that. And if they don't understand it, they need to really think about it.
What do you say, Steven? That's four big topics. We've got we've already been over 35 minutes.
We know. But Charles, I want to know whether Christine agrees or not. Why would you not want to hear that?
No, Steve, I absolutely agree with you. These are the topics.
And what you did forget was transgender, this whole madness about transgender.
I thought I mentioned that. Didn't I say that?
If you have them, my apologies. But yeah, these are just as it was with COVID.
And they will do the same thing with this climate madness. Never let a good crisis go to waste. Always use it to come out and talk.
And when you listen, there is this phrase in Germany, we will overcome or we will come out of this crisis stronger than we were going into it.
But notice they say we will come out stronger, not smarter, stronger.
And this is the first time that that sentence has been said to the German people.
No end. I mean, constantly was in 2009 with the the euro crisis.
We will come out stronger out of this crisis as we have been going in. So and that's what they kept talking about during COVID too.
Yeah. And they are coming out stronger. Like I said, never let a crisis go to waste.
Always, you know, make the best of it. And they surely did.
And like I said, it was just it was just the test balloon to get it all said.
And it's going it's going so fast now. They're really stepping up their game because they kind of realize they're running out of time and they just need to get it all settled now.
So we're talking about, like I said, global health certificate is coming. We're talking about digital currency.
It is coming. We're talking about digital ID. It is coming.
And all of these things are needed to impose climate lockdowns, which will come, trust me, to take away the individual mobility by destroying the cars, not having electricity infrastructure in place, but take away the cars.
You know, yeah, that's that's what we're looking at. And if people don't realize, I mean, I'm seeing all of these things.
And whenever a government is trying to tell me how great something is, I always look at it from the perspective.
And how could this be used to make my life a living hell? And I don't have to look very far. And I want to think too hard about it.
It's quite obvious. And these things are happening. And I'm not talking about the future in 30, 40 or 50 years. It is happening now.
Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Christine. You never waste a word.
You're great at explaining. Yes. Thank you, Christine. All right. We've got eight hands up with we've got 40 minutes, 35 minutes to go, Christine, before we put you to bed at 1130.
Your time. So let's go. There's 10 hands up. That means three and a half minutes per answer. Go, Mark.
Hi, great to see everybody. Thanks for that, Christine. I really appreciated it. But I'd like to cover off a couple of issues.
We're really dealing with cult members. You know, we talk about these isms, you know, communism, socialism, fascism. It's all just a is satan's made.
We're dealing with cult members who are Satanists. And this is how they've been able to prosecute this attack on the populations across the West and the East.
I mean, it's a global take down. And to get into that, you know, this position of power, these people have been handpicked.
I think that definitely cult members will see all the signs and symbols, you see the signs and symbols at WAF.
We'll keep saying this 666 in all of that narrative and the isms are things that divide us, not things that bring us together.
And our adversary is Satan. I think all of these, you know, different political ideological perspectives are just a distraction.
There's a distraction from the real adversary. How else could, you know, somebody as dim as Bill Gates could prosecute and bring this catastrophe to the world?
We'll see the contamination and the vaccines. We'll see everybody that's went along with it.
And also, we'll now see a major conspiracy by the regulatory authorities in all countries across the world to silence the fallout.
We've got this massive increase in mortality, massive increases in morbidity rates and the silent and the fact that the silence of conspiracy to harm.
So one of the questions that was posed before when we discovered what was actually going on in the area where I lived and I brought this to the attention of the regulatory bodies and authorities.
What actually happened? They just went silent. They're totally shutting the democratic system.
And what we'll have to be, we'll have to be a little bit more clever in prosecuting our advantage against them.
And what we've decided to do and we've had some success with it is take legal cases against them.
And one of the things that we do have is a document I posted in the in the chat before about non-governance by terrorists and criminals.
We are not to be governed by terrorists or criminals. And how we can do this?
We all pay tax. We can then go back to these regulatory bodies as from 2019 when local authorities and governments went totally rogue.
On the back of the World Economic Forum strategic plan for an extermination.
Haven't finished yet. This is the start of an extermination.
We'll have the intelligence documents. We now know what our weapons are capable of.
The light emitting diodes at 450 nanometers.
Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, we have not got time. We've got to be tight with our comments.
We're tight for time. We didn't have the full two and a half hours. I'd be tight with the question of Christine.
Come on. Christine, Mark is an expert in 5G and I can put you in touch with him if you like.
OK. So the question, Mark, the question you pointed out that the attack is on is a question of Christine.
There's a total extermination plan in play.
Now, the people in the European Union understand the existential threat or are they just still living in this corrupted political system?
Unfortunately, they are. I cannot I cannot really explain why that is.
It's a it's it's various reasons. There are any piece that know fully well what's going on.
We are in a very small minority. Then there are people that kind of know what's going on, but don't pay too much mind.
It doesn't really. Yeah, they kind of see it, but it's not it's not going to happen.
And, you know, and if it's not going to be as bad as, you know, we make it out to be so.
So and then there is, you know, people, yeah, they kind of see it, but they're so happy to be part of the club now.
You know, they think they're, you know, God only knows what they get to travel and they get to walk the holy halls of the parliament.
And they are so freaking glad to be just part of the club. They wouldn't do anything to jeopardize that.
And then you have downright idiots. Yeah, you have these two there to probably just stupid.
I mean, I sometimes really wonder who is even tying up their shoes in the morning, you know, before they come to parliament.
I have no idea. Certainly they couldn't do it themselves. But it's it's like no.
No. So if if you look at your parliament, there is seven hundred and five members in EU parliament.
If things go really, really well for our side, we have one hundred and fifty votes, Max.
That's Max. And this is really only on issues that are not too controversial.
And it goes really well for us. But other than that, we don't have the majority.
And even if we did, you know, they there is no political will to even do something about this or change this.
The European Union, I mean, there's a lot of people that still dream that this place could be reformed.
There is no freaking way you could ever reform this place. How?
You simply can't. So that's why I will always fight for leaving EU.
Brilliant, brilliant answer. And the answer is create a new system, which is what Kat Lindley was reporting, a new health system.
Thank you, Mark. Paula.
We won't. This year's panel is coming. Yes. Yes. Sorry. Sorry. Yes.
Well, thank you, Christine, for being here with us tonight. I have a quick question.
I'm a member of a small, how we call it, opposition movement in Italy. It's called Ancora Italia.
And as such, I am confronted with every time with a sort of internal opposition within the so-called opposition front that says, oh, no, we don't want to get involved in politics.
Politics is dirty. So my question to you, and then in a way is a bad.
You are a politician. You are a member of parliament.
And can you please tell us your view of how sorry for the question to be a bit biased, how crucial and how important is at this moment in time to be involved in politics and to put pressure on our own governments, on our own institutions, on our own representatives for them to know that we exist.
We are here and we express our views and opinions and wishes and et cetera, et cetera. Thank you.
Well, it is very crucial to be involved in politics right now. Take an interest in politics.
Don't let them walk and run all over you because that's what they're trying to do. They just love citizens not being involved.
And, you know, just, you know, going to work and coming home and, you know, watching some stupid TV show or whatever, you know, bread and games as they didn't roam kind of like that.
They hate and detest critical citizens who, you know, question their government or demand answers or hold them accountable.
That's all things they do not want to do. How crucial is it to do it right now in this point in time? Extremely crucial.
I would go as far as to comparing it to it was as crucial. It's as crucial now as it was in spring, summer and fall of 89 to be in GDR, to be involved in politics.
That's how crucial it is. So, because the thing is this, if we are not succeeding in stopping this, and if they get their way and if they're capable of taking this further and, yeah, even erecting a totalitarian regime,
considering the technological means they have at their disposal nowadays, we wouldn't be talking about 40 years of GDR or 70 years of Soviet Union. Gosh, we will be talking about a very, very, very long time.
You can see how hard it is to get voices of opposition to be even heard nowadays. I mean, you know, being not as restricted yet. But can you imagine how far this will be once they have established full control with, you know, all of the things they are prepared to implement?
I really don't see a way how people could overcome that once it's fully blown. We are going to have a horrible, horrible future.
There's the answer, Paula. Great question. Well done on your work in Italy. Great job. James, you're doing some great work, Christine, as you know, on the Who.
Hopefully you can hear me, everyone?
Yep.
Yeah.
Christine, nice to meet you. I just put all my contact information in the chat. Please do reach out to me. I'm at your service and the service of everyone else on the planet. I'm actually the person who broke the story about the Biden amendments last year to the International Health Regulations.
I'll keep it short. There's three fallacies that I wanted to make sure you're aware of. Okay. Number one, last year, the International Health Regulations were amended, and we have until November this year to reject them. People don't recognize what did happen last year.
The amendments that are currently being very secretly negotiated this year, no parliament, no Congress in the world has the authority to stop them. The negotiations must be stopped before the International Health Regulations amendments could possibly be adopted next year.
It is a different process that everyone on the planet seems to misunderstand. And the thing that they call a treaty is not a treaty. It's a framework convention. And I put the link in the chat. They're having meetings next week. The Intergovernmental Negotiating Body will be meeting next week, most likely completely in secret.
But there is a new version that they refer to as the Bureau's Text. Again, the link is in the chat. Anybody who says anything or has said anything about what people call the treaty, better download the Bureau's Text, read it.
It is not what people think it is. In my view, it's a venture capital prospectus to build out the testing mechanisms to be able to scare people with pathogen after pathogen or claim thereof. I just caution you, don't speak about the treaty unless you actually really reviewed it, because people have been making mistakes referring to old versions or myths.
Or miss connecting it to what's in the amendments. And thank you for your time and all that you do. You're spectacular. I hope we can get connected. I'm here to serve. If there's anything I can do to help, just let me know.
Okay. Can I just ask him a question? Okay, so it is my understanding that, yeah, 12 of the 14 proposed amendments to the treaty last year were withdrawn by the United States, but the two remaining ones, they're pertaining to some kind of a how to change it is my understanding.
And it has something to do with if adopted, then it'll go into effect like six months later, something along those lines.
I'll be happy to clarify that. Okay. Biden proposed 13 amendments. His proposal was completely kicked to the curb.
Coming back in the middle of the assembly last year, United States, United Kingdom, the European Union, a handful of other nations submitted a totally different proposed document that included one of the ones that Biden had proposed.
It essentially shortens the time period for the ability to reject them. And it shortens the time period at which they go into force. It's not six months. It was shortened from 18 to 10 months to reject future amendments.
And it was shortened from 24 to 12 months to go into effect. We have 18 months to reject those changes. So the end of November is the deadline. There have been petitions in the UK, which is still currently running in Canada and in Australia, to demand that parliaments around the nation, I mean, around the world, they need to recognize that they gave up their power to deal with this all the way back in 1969.
They do not have the authority. If the delegates make a decision next May, each leader could reject it, but that's going to require political will from the people. I'm working to build the opposition to it. Anybody can go to exitthewho.org around the world. That's the answer.
There's no redeeming value left there. The things that you said about the EU, I think, apply to the WHO even more so. It's a tear down. It's not a renovation project.
Okay, thank you. I just see a couple of people asked you to post the link for the text of the bureau text again, because they're having trouble. I'll post it again. Yeah, it's just in the chat. Thank you very much. I'll pass it on to Christine.
Christine.
Yep. Thank you. Great work, Larry. Quick. We got time. We're tight for time. No long speeches. Okay.
Thanks, Charles. Thanks, Christine.
Thanks, James. Thanks, everybody.
Can you hear me.
Yes.
Thank you. So, um, the first thing is I want to try to generalize what James has said, I've got this diagram behind me which basically shows what a lot of us have figured out is behind almost every power institution in the world, and I'll get out of the way of it.
I mean, basically, you've got a master at the top, you've got sub masters and then slaves and this can be scalable, it doesn't have to be only three regions or three tiers, you can have as many tiers as your organization has, and, and it, you know, once the majority, or maybe all of the world is captured this way we've got one heck of a challenge now we're going to see if I can do this.
So, let's make this as quick as possible boy that work took me forever to get this fit on the page. Okay. So here are my questions for Christine. The first one is basically, to what degree is the EU captured by the enemy what percentage of the politicians are hopelessly captured
mere puppets will rubber stamp anything enemy dictates without any sort of real democratic process and then the second question is, was the root cause of the problems we face, and what are the root cause solutions, i.e. how can we turn the tide locally in the EU and worldwide.
So, I hope I don't have to talk anymore and I'll turn it over to the group.
Thank you.
Okay, what degree is the EU government captured by the enemy.
I'd say, at least 80% at least 80% just just talking about you know the representatives sitting in the chamber, you parliament, 80%.
Well, not that that probably wouldn't wouldn't be a correct correct answer. Let's just say 80% just just do what, what they are supposed to do. They just kind of go along. So yeah okay so the question was actually captured.
That that actually is a tough question to answer.
To put a number on that that would be.
Well, I'd say at least 20%.
So that's talking with an EU Parliament, an EU Commission, and the government's all around the world. So in each government, you will have roughly 20%.
They just kind of do their bidding, and they know they're doing their bidding.
So that's that's the number I would, I would, I would put it that.
What can we do.
Well, the majority in the, in the parliaments all around the Western democracies, you don't have a majority there. And at this point, we will not be able to get a majority in time to prevent all of that.
What really needs to happen is the people need to wake up and the people need to take to the streets, and the people need to tell their governments, they're not going to put up with this anymore.
They need to change their voting behavior.
And for the life of me, I don't understand why they keep voting for the same people that got us into this trouble in the first place. I mean the ones that are causing the problem are not going to be the ones to provide the solution for it, because the
solution they have for the problems they cause aren't solutions. It's solutions for the globalitarian elites. It's a solution for them. Like I said, they detest democracy.
It's a nuisance constantly having to explain people why they do stuff, and then being called out by the people, they don't want this anymore.
So, I don't know, the people need to get it, and they need to finally run these people out of town, to be quite frank.
All right. Thank you. Thank you, Larry. That's it. John.
Hello.
Love hearing you talk. My name is John Baldwin. I'm in the Massachusetts Boston area.
So, I got 500,000 death certificates from Massachusetts unredacted. Now we have 400,000 from Minnesota and about 600,000 from Vermont. So I have a million unredacted death certificates and from that, I was able to determine the causes of death shifted from respiratory in 2020 to circulatory in blood in 2021 on a year boundary, and then I went into individual records and read them.
These people reacted to the vaccine, sometimes in five minutes, sometimes in a few hours, and they were dead in a few days.
I correlated them with with bears records, you're familiar with bears vaccine adverse event reporting system.
So, my overall plan, Christine, and I want to get your opinion on it.
I came up with this over a year ago I got my color. He's talking about it maybe he started about six months ago along with Steve Kirsch Claire Craig and England is now talking about it.
And that is, in order to win we need public opinion, you need public opinion to win any court case you needed to win legislation to win everything we all know that.
So, in order to win public opinion.
The propaganda is so strong against us. They own that market that our adversaries own propaganda, and this strong news outlets, we need to get people to lose faith and trust in government first, and then they'll be open to receiving information, such like what I'm talking about
Now here's getting down to a tactical level. So you know my strategic plan, I kind of alluded to it, but tactically, what we really need to do is demand the people's data from the government, government has vaccine registries and immunization immunization
Registries. The, my plan was already sent to the Santhus and Lattopo, you Aidan Senate to him.
Congressman from Florida, as chief of staff, Senate to him, a reporter, Daniel Horowitz sat down and had dinner with him. So, they didn't do it they went with University of Florida for a heart study, it's going to take six months and it's like one tenth of what I what I propose.
So it's very simple. Every country, nation, and us state has an immunization registry. They also have vital records and death certificates, and then they have either insurance or national health care data.
All they have to do is correlate them, they've been hiding it, no, no state no nation in the world has done this.
And all the researchers and all the scientists are playing guessing games trying to do a correlation between vaccine status and death certificates or health outcomes by by using statistics on databases that are not coordinated they're not correlated.
That's impossible. So, really, to back the other side into a corner all we need to do is say, Well, if you want the truth, let's both ask for the truth.
That's it. Let's let's back them into a corner.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you, but they don't have an interest in that. So, let me talk about Germany. Germany, we actually do not have an immune immunization record, like some database, we don't.
And they were discussing that to establish something like that.
So they could, you know, put pressure on the people that did not want the mRNA shot, but there is no general record database of immunization.
So, what we do, what we can do in Germany, and we've already been doing that. The only data we can really access is the data from the insurance health insurance carriers.
So, they've been doing some inquiries, and they have to release the data because the Freedom of Information Act. So there have been several inquiries made.
And it takes a long time for them to answer because they don't want to, they play dumb, don't know what they're being asked for. So it's like, you know, going back and forth, letters and emails and blah blah.
But that has been done. And there is a guy named Tom Lausen. He's a statistician, I can't say the word, with statistics, right. And he really got down to that.
Of course, he was being torn to shreds, being labeled, you know, spreading disinformation and all of that. So, the data that he got from that is quite clear.
Something is going on. And, yeah, now we just need the politicians, the government, to take that data and do something with it. But that's exactly not what they want to do.
Take, for instance, drop in birth rate. It's staggering in every single country, especially the ones with a high mRNA shot distribution. You see this. Yes, it is a correlation. I understand that.
But why are they not not interested in getting to the truth of that? Maybe there is, you know, a connection. But no, they don't want to see this.
And that's why I think it's a good plan that you have, but putting it into place. That's an entirely different story, because they're not interested in that.
Just looking at the way the COVID committee was handled on EU Parliament level, I mean, it's a joke. It was a disgrace, actually. Every single lie, despite the fact, what we uncovered in this committee, due to our, you know, rather impertinent questions,
every single lie is being repeated in that report. So, and that the report will be taken by the pharmaceutical companies to roll out the next mRNA shot programs or whatever.
So at this point, you are right, we need public opinion on that. And the way to go is to educate people, to get them on board and see what is going on.
And the fact that the government's refuse to get to the bottom of this, use the data. I mean, in the beginning, it was like, well, there was no data, there's no data. Well, now there is data, but they refuse to use it. That in and of itself is a big tell.
Why would they refuse to take a look at the data?
I got a whole chapter in my book on that. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. John.
My question, the assault on the humanity is broad based. So there are so many things they're doing to get us in prison, actually. So, your opinion, is there anything of the higher priority or to put the question a different way?
Is there anything you think if it work, we should stop to prevent all the other parts of the evil plan.
I'm sorry, we should prevent what I didn't get them.
In your opinion, we have different specialties here in priorities 5G, vaccination, digitizing and so on. In your opinion, is there anything which of the higher priority which we could, if we could stop, then we would prevent all the other parts of the evil plan.
If I understood correctly, you're asking me if I had to pick one thing and I could stop it now, which would it be?
Yes. So the attention would be by stopping this one thing to at least prevent or even stop the entire plan.
That's a tough one. That really is a tough one. Because all of these things are epistemally evil.
You know, looking at transgender, I mean, butchering up our kids and all of this, you know.
I really, I really don't have an answer to that. We need to stop all of it.
And I really, I'm really hard pressed to take a pick here. What's the most important thing?
But, well, maybe, maybe stopping this whole climate madness. Maybe that, because that that will hurt us.
On a very broad level and for a very long time, because once the industry has all been deconstructed,
once the farmers have been run from their land, once their cattle has been burned, you cannot just get it back.
And then we're talking about our food supply, you know, and if the farmer dies, then the people die.
It's as simple as that. And be independent for your food supply on, let's say, Monsanto or whoever, you know,
or eating the stupid bucks that Bill Gates is breeding by the billions and trillions.
Maybe that would be would be a thing that I if I had the power to stop it, I would stop that first.
Very good. Thank you, Christine. Thank you, Master Jack. We've talked. Go quick.
Yeah, well, I could I could easily do a program on this theme that I wanted to go back to what Stephen asked or implied that this could happen in any country.
Well, maybe. Well, I think it happens in some countries much more than others.
As an American, this makes me acutely aware of the mythology of our culture and the mythology of any culture is very,
very important because they represent roles that people are psychologically prepared to assume.
And in the United States, I mean, I'm a I'm a relentless critic of my own country because I think it's ruled by psychopaths completely
and has been throughout all my entire life. I can think of only two exceptions to it in the presidency in my long life.
But we have in this country a very strong mythic character of the rebels.
And if you if you look at our national heroes, most of them are rebels. They're not presidents.
Yeah, they're not government figures.
And it's kind of interesting.
I mean, Christina, that I see a very strong rebellious potential in Italy, as well as France within Europe.
And it's interesting that the great spaghetti Westerns Clint Eastwood is, of course, plays the great citizen hero.
That's a tradition in this country. A mythic figure is the citizen hero.
And in the spaghetti Westerns Clint Eastwood, very, very brilliant films.
And the director was Sergio Leone, an Italian director.
And they and they were filmed in Spain.
But we have we have that citizen hero figure and that's very much in my psyche.
I mean, I can feel it in there.
Yeah. And and over here, right after the war, the the big war, the question was asked that that Stephen was asking, did this happen anywhere?
And there were three social psychologists at Yale and at Stanford who did some very important studies on this on conformity with authority.
Yes. And conformity with that was Solomon, Stanley, Milgram and Phillips and Zimbardo.
All of these studies on conformity with authority and conformity with with authority of the group.
And what was important about this is, yeah, we showed a high degree of conformity with authority and with the group.
But people were horrified by those results.
And they actually had to stop doing those experiments because they were so disturbing, so disturbing to the participants that it was considered unethical to continue that line of research.
And see, that's very, very important.
So what I, of course, been trying to stimulate in my own country here with everybody around is is the spirit of rebellion to act to overthrow this goddamn government, get rid of it.
It was interesting that people are more and more feeling this.
And suddenly now the Republicans, previously the so-called dark side of American politics, are actually the heroes.
They're the ones who are rebelling. They're the ones who are saying this is bullshit.
We're not going to comply with it.
I remember when this very first happened, people were getting knocked down and abused, assaulted by the staff in stores and restaurants for not wearing their masks.
Well, that stopped in a hurry.
I think Americans at large are not going to put up with that kind of crap.
That's the spirit that has to be built upon.
And I think the image that has to be drawn upon, there's this whole image, you know, the heroes in American mythology.
If you look at films and literature and, you know, other people like Billy the Kid and Bonnie and Clyde, they're the citizen rebels, even if they're criminal in nature, they're rebels and they have a heroic kind of stature.
The parts played by Clint Eastwood. He's an independent. You don't know if he's a good guy or bad guy, but he's not a conformist.
Yeah.
Jack, okay. Christine, comment?
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you.
The Americans, I actually, my hopes now kind of lie with the Americans, because the Americans, as you already pointed out, you have a different understanding.
Because your nation was basically, or one of the, yeah, the founding moment of your history was rebelling, you know, against the British, for instance.
So that is a little different in German.
But German is generally, first and foremost, subservient, you know, I mean, there's vast literature on that.
So the German kind of like that. And to quote Lenin, he once said, if the Germans wanted to take over a train station, they would buy a ticket first.
You know, that's the kind of mentality.
But I absolutely agree with you. And you already pointed out those studies or those experiments that were done, Milgram and Ash and all of that.
But it just shows it is possible.
The conformity that the pressure to conform is so great within each and every human being.
And that's why I still contend totalitarianism can be erected in any place.
And when you look at society at large, yeah, you always have rebels, but they're not the majority.
It's always only a few. And all of the rebellions that ever took place in history, it started out with a few.
It was just a matter of what the pressure so high that a critical mass, not the majority, but a critical mass of that society actually then joined in.
And I'm absolutely with you when you say we should, you know, instill the rebel in all of the citizens.
I mean, I could just say with Albert Camus, you know, we have to become so absolutely free that our very existence becomes an act of rebellion.
Yeah, now Everett Rogers, a sociologist at the University of New Mexico, he looked at that critical mass issue, the adoption of ideas and the adoption of innovations.
And I think that's where the tipping point occurs.
Yeah, exactly.
And I, yeah, if it's a good idea, and if it's right, it's going to catch on. And then it goes, the curve rises very steeply after that.
Yeah, I mean, just look at fall of 89, that October in Leipzig.
I mean, in GDR, there were 16 million citizens living, and there were 70,000 on the street.
And the state crumbled. It was just 70,000, which isn't a whole lot out of 16 million.
But they just crumbled. They withdrew, and they did not fire a single shot. They were prepared. The tanks were all there. The military had moved in.
They could have, but they didn't dare to.
It's a beautiful reminder, and that's what Mickey, that's what the Great Awakening, Christine, we were talking about Mickey Willis's movie, also says the 15%, Jack, that ties into that.
Now, we've got four more questions. Christine, are you okay for the next 15 minutes? And we'll finish at quarter two. Thank you.
Jack, just on that point, well, Christine, use of language, very important.
We used the word revolution, rebellion. The Hungarian, and my origins are Hungarian.
Hungarians properly call the 56 pushback against the Russians as an uprising, not a revolution and not a rebellion.
And so Americans are not rebelling, they're uprising for the proper implementation of the Constitution.
Yes. Thanks for pointing that out. Language is very important. Thank you.
Thank you, Jack. Karen, KK is doing some great work. Christine, I hope you've caught up with Karen's work over the years.
Hi, Christine. I'm Karen Kingston. I'm a med legal analyst. My work was recently cited by Lieutenant General Kereav.
And I'm wondering if this is a potential strategy because I'm not hearing, in my opinion, enough of our leaders, whether, of course, not in the government, but maybe in the EU, talking about that these are bioweapons.
And the evidence, based on what Pfizer submitted to the FDA, they engaged in criminal human experimentation on children and adults, and they violated their contract, and they violated every law in the Food and Drug Consumer Protection Act.
There is no law in the United States. There's no law in any country that gives them immunity from using bioweapons on civilians.
So when I was wondering if that's a strategy, if there's anything that you think could get some teeth in it.
And two, I think it's very important because the mRNA technology, the engineered lipid nanoparticles have always been developed as bioweapons.
There's a whole sector called synthetic biology. The environment movement, they literally, I sit in on these conferences, I'm from this industry, people don't know there's this whole nother world.
And they literally think that they need to re-engineer all biological life forms with technology to save the environment.
So for example, they'll use lipid nanoparticles in plants and algae, and instead of producing oxygen, okay, and water, it'll produce some synthetic protein or a plastic.
And in regards to the food supplies, they plan on making the foods, the meats and eggs in like apartment buildings, and they use embryonic animals.
I don't know if those are animals or also humans, and they call it plant-based to make the meat. That's what's going on. It's a trillion dollar, 30 trillion.
And then what can we do so people know this is even going on? It's literally the definition of biowarfare.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you.
It's that tough one too. So I'm fully aware of the fact that these mRNA shots, they are bioweapons. They are.
The thing is, as was pointed out earlier, in order to get our message across, we need public opinion.
So what we cannot forget or overlook is the fact there may have been a lot of people that have woken up these past three years,
but there are still a lot of people that are just now starting to question narratives.
And, you know, they have this feeling, kind of like, you know, crumbling in their tummy. They know something isn't right.
If I were to hit that person with the term, well, it's a bioweapon, you know, this person will immediately dismiss me, you know, and will not even listen.
So we need to be careful in what circles we use, what language.
It's OK, you know, if we said, yeah, it's a bioweapon and kind of like among you guys.
But if I if I'm trying to convince someone, you know, that something is seriously wrong here and I slap that person with a term bioweapon, they will probably just turn around and be done with it.
In terms of that plant based or plant grown meat or whatever they call it.
Yeah, you're right. People, they have no freaking clue what is even going on.
And if you were to try to explain it to them, they give you these looks and dismiss you as a conspiracy theory.
So as with everything, this particular issue may need a little more time to simmer among society, you know, popping up here and here, hearing something and hearing something until you can actually fully
blow a campaign on that, you know, and just get it out there. So we are at that point, as far as COVID is concerned, you know, we are at that point as far as the 15 minute ghettos are concerned.
And people have heard about it so many times now. And so it wouldn't it wouldn't like completely shock them, you know, but with this this plant grown meat.
That is that might be a little little too hard for them at this point.
It's literally every life form that they want to. I know I understand. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they're still going to have their stake right.
Just we won't. Well, we'll be inoculated with technology when we ingest it too.
I mean, that's when Elon Musk talks about the humanoids. Where is he going to, when are humanoids going to outnumber humans unless he's turning up?
I know that's going crazy.
And my understanding is, and correct me if I'm wrong, but what they're also planning is to inject animals with this mRNA crack.
Yeah, they're killing them and then they want to grow it in a lab. But what's growing in the lab is, in my opinion, is the question.
But my understanding is up until we get to that point, they will inject the cattle now with mRNA and we would, you know, ultimately consume it.
They put it in the paint gel too that makes the meat red. So you consume it that way.
Yeah, I don't know.
Okay. Yeah, I just got from a messaging work you recommended.
KK's work on this is wonderful. Christine, this is a wonderful resource for you. So please take note of that. Thank you, Karen. Glen.
Karen, so you're going to put your email address for Christine in the chat, or do you want to send it?
I'll pass it on to you if you want to email me. Sorry, pass it on to Christine.
Okay, I'll email you. Thank you.
Ready to go. Come on, Glen.
Hi, Christine. It's great to see you again.
A variety of times during this summer of your answers, you indicated the need to have the people wake up and take to the streets, and Jack accented that also.
I would contend that the needing to wake up is not necessary. That what's been described as the 15% that G. Edward Griffin stated in the PlanDemic3 that just to join the 15% together,
and to let them know that we are not alone.
And that becomes a movement cycle and an arm locking that can occur with the right kind of thrust in the right kind of movement.
And I would claim we are at that point right now from a variety of activities.
One of them is the entire woke agenda, together with the trans movement, has become a complete abomination to people that believe in the family and believe in the sanctity of the children being protected, and the ability for the parent to have that full right of how their children are protected.
That is a giant element right now. And to apply that rule together with a couple of other modest ones, I believe we are capable right now of getting people involved, getting them to the streets, and getting them off their electronics, and meeting face to face where there's so much extra joy associated with recognizing there's somebody they can see that they can trust, that there's not a bot watching them.
So, I'm hopeful and I'd like your comment on whether you think this can work, that this can work in this point in time, in the month of June, where we go specifically after the issues of protecting the children, demanding a righteous government, and moving to act in the United States using the Flag Day as a great opportunity to get people out to meeting together, to talk about the issues that we have.
And I think that we're moving together to be a launch point for something that can have an enormous amount of impact in the next few weeks.
Yeah.
I absolutely agree with you. And the only blessing that actually I will associate with this whole COVID madness is the fact that they completely overplayed their hand with these restrictions, with this silencing, with these, you know, threatening, coercing, manipulation and all of that, and imposing these ridiculous restrictions.
They completely overplayed their hand. So that led to a lot of people waking up and, you know, seeing what's going on. And another blessing that I actually will contribute to COVID is this whole transgender madness.
For the first time, I think in years, parents actually realized the garbage their children were being taught at school, because the children were all sitting at home and having this homeschooling, you know, via some kind of a screen or whatever.
And they were actually there seeing the assignments their kids had to do. So, yeah, again, a lot of people woke up. And it is, I don't know if you caught that, the thing that might have been yesterday, Tucker Carlson, he's back on Twitter.
He has some kind of a show on Twitter now, which is absolutely fantastic and super successful. But he spoke about taboos.
A very important part of what keeps a society together is taboos. And once you attack those taboos, then, you know, the society becomes incoherent. It just kind of drifts apart and falls apart.
And one of those taboos is definitely pedophilia. You know, it was always that is an absolute no go. And people were just, you know, outcasts of society.
If they even entertain the notion of looking funny as a kid. And these are the taboos we have been seeing being under attack. And they now think they were or they thought they were at the point where they can push it fully blown on society.
Guess what? Society doesn't want it. So and luckily, but yeah, I'm absolutely with you. I do think the critical mass has been reached.
I mean, that's, you know, part of their their mechanism to make people think they're the only ones thinking this way. I mean, Canada, you know, to go there a small French minority, you know, and he meant it in a derogative term.
Actually, you know, I'm very proud and I'm a member of the small French minority. And we just need to tell people, well, take pride in that, you know, because you are one of the very few ones that actually realize what's going on.
And they are the ones you know, there's this one picture. You see like a bunch of Nazis standing there and all are raising their arm and hailing Hitler or whatever.
And there is this one guy in this group and he stands like this and he's not doing anything. Nowadays, everyone in the entire Western democracies, they all think they would have been that guy.
When in fact, looking at what they did the last three years. No, they would have been all of the other guys going along.
Yeah, well said. Okay, then we're going to keep moving.
Hold on. Hold on.
Hang on. One comment and then we're going. Come on. One comment, Glenn. Quick.
Sure. Tucker Carlson made a big point in the middle of his around the pedophilia being advanced by Instagram. And so our ability to go out and apply a boycott against them.
Same way has happened with Target and with Bud Light. It can be a giant moment for us.
Yes. Yep. Thank you. Thank you, Glenn and Christine. You make an excellent point of the transgender, the homeschooling and also look at all of us on this call, everybody. Look who we've met here.
That's another benefit of COVID, isn't it? Mika, then Celia and then we'll finish with quick question from Steven. Mika.
Hi. Hi there. I'm Mika from the Netherlands. I'm a lawyer and thank you so much, Christine, for standing up for us all. It was a great thing to see you acting and speaking out so clearly.
Well, I have two comments. The first one is that this program about the vaccination passport, it mentions that health is not a European, is not within the European authority.
And I think like it's a national power. Yeah. And I think it's it's I don't see it so much in in all the topics. But but I think that the EU is acting outside its powers by assuming this power, which it doesn't have.
So also the passport is a national thing. Like you cannot make an WHO passport because it's a national thing to do. So I think maybe this is something to to to to litigate about or do something about because it's it's clearly it's it's not allowed what they're doing.
And a second point I want to make is that like I see a lot of cartels and I did a lot of investigation on the trade agreement between Canada and the EU.
And you just I found out that there was just like the gigantic cartel of the fossil fuel industry together with the banks headed by Goldman Sachs and also the pharma and the the the the Monsanto and so on.
They were all together in this gigantic cartel and I had never imagined to see this. But I did a lot of research in books and stuff and you just see it happening.
And I think it's just illegal cartels are forbidden and this gigantic cartel and you see this gigantic cartel taking over our national governments, the EU and everything.
And it's it's just forbidden. And it's the core. You call it's called the corporate takeover. And I think we could maybe do something legal on it.
So, Christine, I would I put my email address in the chat. So I would really like to maybe have a few words on it if you have time. I also worked with Rob Rose.
I know him from the Netherlands. Yeah, excellent.
But first of all, I can't give you too much so as far as the EU lacking competencies. Well, what else is new?
You know, they don't have competencies in so many areas. They don't care.
And take take culture and education. I mean, even within Germany, it's not even up to the federal government to, you know, deal with that.
It's up to the state governments. They do that. But it doesn't bother you. They're imposing their stuff, you know, all over the place.
As far as this, they have no competencies for health. Yeah, they don't. They don't care. They really don't care.
Because, you know, there's well, it was an emergency and we wanted to save lives. And apparently they I don't know how many trillion lives they save, you know, their mind anyway.
So but the thing is, with a digital print certificate, what they actually did is they felt compelled to facilitate travel within the member states.
And that was, you know, kind of like their way in since free movement is one of the holy grails of EU, you know.
So in order to protect the holy grail of EU, they needed to impose that digital print certificate so that travel could be facilitated.
I called it a fundamental rights voucher document, you know, because I knew exactly what they were turning this into.
I would have liked to be wrong on that. But unfortunately, I was right. So if you're trying to discourage the EU by slapping them with lacking competencies, they're just going to laugh in your face because they for four years, they've been doing whatever the hell they wanted to do.
And they always have some reason and it's always sounds just nice and all of this, you know, but I mean, the EU institutions in and of itself, they're a gross violation of every single democratic principle.
It's just the fact. But, you know, they get they get away with it, unfortunately, but I'm looking forward to maybe have a conversation with you.
If you put your email in the in the chat, but I wouldn't be able to get back to you until like another two weeks or so.
Excellent. Thanks very much. Thanks, Michael.
Celia, you're doing well, Christine Celia.
Hello, Christine. Hi, very much an honor to be listening to you and meeting you like this. I've watched you over the years since COVID. I should say I'm an investigative journalist based in the United States.
I go back over 30 years with investigative reportage on the pharmaceutical industry and fake pandemics and HIV AIDS was my first one. So I was a prepared mind when COVID hit, to say the least.
But I've wondered, as I've watched you when you stood up so stunningly and you were such a beacon of light and hope for all of us.
But I also wondered what happens when she leaves when she's walking through the corridors, what happens to her socially with your colleagues, and maybe more to the point.
Do you feel that now that there is any kind of thaw, are your colleagues coming to you secretly behind the scenes saying we agree with you, we just don't want to say anything.
How would you describe the climate in the wake of all the mass death statistics coming out, though I know they deny that.
Okay, well, there is those and there are those. Okay, my colleagues, the ones that I work with together, there is no problem whatsoever.
It's just fine. They kind of think it's great what I'm doing.
And it's kind of like when we started out, it was just the four MEPs. And I was the only one from my group even. It was from other group MEPs as well.
And now they were giving us thumbs up. And it was at a time when we were four of us. It was just the four of us and we were just the heck with it.
We're just going to go out there and we'll do what we have to do. So by now it's obviously more.
But then you have the others from the other groups, from the Social Democrat, the Green, the Left, like all of the others.
They hate me. They hate me so much.
And there has been, they tried to shut me down in committees.
That one committee session, they even kicked me out of the room, because I wasn't wearing a mask.
But I had a medical certificate exempting me from having to wear a mask, but it didn't bother them the least.
And, you know, this is this place that is against discrimination and against harassment of people.
Heck, have they been harassing me and discriminating against me.
But it's not that I, the fact was not they were not angry with me because I wasn't wearing a mask.
They hate me. They just hate my guts and they just hate me for exposing them.
They would just like to, you know, to be in the little bubble, undisturbed, you know,
and go on and on about their stupid ideologies and all of this.
They don't want to be disturbed in that bubble.
And here I am, you know, tearing just through this, you know, ridiculing them and, you know, exposing them and all of this.
So, yeah, they hate me.
But, you know, the more they hate me, the more I know I do everything wrong.
You know, the day when any of them starts agreeing with me, that's when I need to revisit my position.
Kind of like, you know, so but no, don't worry about it.
It's all good. They really can't do anything, you know, so let them hate me.
I'm fine with that.
Charles, I know we're out of time, but I beg you, could I ask one more really quick question, very succinct question.
So I'm half Swedish grew up in Sweden and have been fascinated by the Tegnell Black Swan event, what Sweden did, what Anders Tegnell did, listening to him trying to figure it out.
So, so what Sweden did and what Tegnell did, whatever his reasons were, was success and proves the whole model wrong.
That's a huge boon and ally, I mean, for you, right?
Yeah.
Just wondering, do you think the EU, do they hate him? Do they feel like, you know, what's going on with all of that? It's such an elephant in the room.
Yes, it is. Okay, so in the beginning, it was like, oh, they're all going to die.
In Sweden, everyone is just going to die because they're idiots. And then they came up with these, these infection graphs and all of that, you know, when you looked at it, it was like, no, they were identical.
You know, I mean, the infections rose as they did everywhere else, you know, so, and but it's like, so in the beginning, Sweden was pretty, pretty badly bad mouthed by all of the German media, all of the European media, you know, like they're just, you know, idiots.
And oh my God, they're all going to die and the government is going to have to pay for this and they will be run tart and feathered and run out of town.
So, and guess what? None of that happened, you know, on the contrary.
But now that it's quite evident, and there is some data out there that you can really make a strong case on how that was actually the smart thing to do.
They don't know about this anymore. What? Yes, we did something different. We would have never guessed. They downright deny it.
They will not talk about it. So even in this COVID committee, I mean, we repeatedly, you know, pointed to Sweden and you know, look what they did, completely different, but no one died, at least not by the billions or whatever.
But no, they wouldn't even take that into consideration. It is as though Sweden does not exist anymore. When it comes to this whole COVID madness, Sweden does not exist. Point blank.
That's it. Great question, Celia and John Bodren has put some charts into the chat. Download those Celia, they're quite useful. I'm sure you've got them already.
Thank you Celia. Okay, last couple of questions, Stephen, we're tight for time, but you'll ask Stephen as tradition dictates and then Tom Rodman's group is available on Telegram for those of you who have the time and the chat and the link is in the chat.
Stephen, thank you Celia.
Celia, I think Anders Tegnell took his cue from a guy called Johan Gieseker who actually hired Tegnell when he was a state epidemiologist and the state epidemiologist, that's the actual title of the job, has to be a medical doctor, as I understand it.
So both Gieseker, who's the brains behind it, I think, and Tegnell are medical doctors, but Gieseker did say in an interview, famous interview with Unheard, I've forgotten the name of the journalist now, but he did say that unfortunately Sweden had not avoided killing the old people.
They hadn't failed to protect the old people. So whether Gieseker was on board at that stage, I'm not quite sure, he was a little bit vague about that. But anyway, in my opinion, I know Sweden pretty well and in my opinion, Sweden, as far as totalitarianism is concerned, are way down the road anyway.
They don't need a lockdown.
Yeah, and that's not criticizing Sweden or the Swedish people, but they need to wake up in Sweden and not trust the state so much and trust their families more than they do. But actually the state has always been gunning against the family, as long as I've ever known Sweden.
Absolutely.
So, and so what they've done to the Swedish people is evil, in my opinion.
But anyway, the EU, they're incompetent.
Christine, I agree with you, but also they're evil. They betrayed Greece in 2015.
I watched it. I didn't know anything about these agendas we're facing, you know, no now, but I watched.
What do you talk about in Greece, they betrayed them in 2015 with the refugees, because they started that in 2010 with the euro crisis, they betrayed Greece then.
Yeah, so they really betrayed, so that, and Greece was the example for the whole of the rest of the European Union, and they were, so they betrayed a whole nation and its people.
And the doctors in Greece, I believe I'm right in saying this, and the teachers and all the rest, they're working for half their salaries still.
Yes.
Because of the EU's terms of whatever it was, the loan which Greece couldn't afford anyway.
But I just wanted to ask you, Christine, so in all the things we've discussed tonight, I think we've done pretty well at covering, well, obviously there are always things we're not even aware of, we wouldn't know.
But what is your most important message to the people? If you need a bit of time to think about that.
What, what, of all the things we've talked about tonight, what's the most important message to go to walk away with from you?
The most important message is this. If you sleep in a democracy, you will have a very, very rude awakening and a tyranny.
And people really need to understand they need to question their government. The government is not the good guy here.
There is a conflict of interest. They want to expand their power.
And it goes, you know, at the expense of the people. And the people are just so readily, so ready to accept that the government is looking out for their best interest.
I repeat this again in the entire history of mankind. There has never been a political elite that has been concerned with the well-being of regular people.
And it's not going to, it's not different now. It's always been like that.
So in very simple terms, Christine, for the people, does the government love them or not?
No, they don't.
Simple question, simple answer. Great way to finish everybody.
Christine, it's midnight. You're going to go to bed. But that is a great point for this recording for people watching this recording.
The government doesn't love you. Everybody, wake up.
Yes, exactly.
Excellent, Christine.
And Steve, can I ask you once again to copy the chat for me and send it to me?
Yep.
All right, everybody. Come on. Three hours. Thank you, Stephen, for organizing.
Stephen, I'll talk to you, Maria, with links for Anna Burkhardt matters. I'll talk to you about that, Maria.
Sure.
Maria, do you want to just...
Charles, may I jump in here for a second? Because when Christina was speaking, great Christina, thank you.
I just put Thomas Jefferson's quote in here. It's actually that I have a sticker on my laptop with this,
when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty, Thomas Jefferson.
This was one of the Rebel Lion shop stickers that you could buy to support Mickey Willis' work.
So as all of us saw the film, I would really like to encourage all of us to spread the word and also ask for donations for Mickey's work.
And he has this lovely shop with great t-shirts. It's like question the narrative or the great awakening sweaters, hoodies, t-shirts, stickers as to one I have on my laptop.
And I think it's time to support Mickey Willis and to spread the word here and please also donate something or buy a thread in his shop.
So this is Rebel Lion or Rebellion. Rebel Lion is the brand that they put out to support the pandemic series. Yeah. Thank you.
Christine, when you weren't here, just very quickly, Charles, when you weren't here, Mascha read out Professor Arna Burkhart's obituary twice because, well, yes, there were technical problems.
I actually sent the link to the webpage, which I mentioned to medical doctors on Telegram.
And I can send it to you, Christine, personally, for example.
That would be great. Yeah, that was really tragic. I only met him, you know, in the beginning of May during that international COVID summit.
And he was, gosh, it was a really nice conversation we had. I mean, he thanked me, you know, for all I was doing when it was actually me having to thank him for all he has been doing.
And yeah, that he passed away so suddenly and unexpectedly that that really got to me. Yeah.
So there were things said in the obituary, which was read out, which Charles will send you, I hope, but which I didn't know about previously.
But I think the reason I'm telling you, I would like you as a German politician to have a look at the obituary and to make sure that there was nothing untoward going on in the background that we don't know about.
Okay. And yeah, that's all. Okay.
Maria, just a second, Stephen. So Maria, who could you organize for Tuesday? You were talking about Anna Burkhardt.
Yeah. So, Christine, I just shared the obituary on WhatsApp with you, the German version.
And yeah, I reached out to Johanna and Johanna is one of the doctors that was early in for the pathology conference and I hope she can join the Tuesday evening meeting.
I will confirm with you tomorrow.
Maria, first, we may have to give the first shot to Masha's recommendation of Elmar.
Yes, right. But I was on the phone with Elmar just shortly before and I already texted to Charles. So Johanna, Elmar, myself and two other people, we were the ones putting out this text that we widely shared.
The one text is from Professor Lang and the other text is something that we put out so everybody could spread it in German and in English.
And I think Rebecca does not know if he really wants to be in the meeting on Tuesday evening. He will let us know by tomorrow.
And otherwise, Johanna who put the web page together and all the content, the best of videos in German and English. Johanna Deiner, she's a medical doctor as well.
She would be probably happy to speak. I need to confirm with her.
I just wanted to make sure of because my first duty is to Masha because she's been helping me with this.
So I just want to make sure that she's not pushed to the side by all the other people.
I'm in contact with Masha as well. We know each other. We both know Elmar Becker. I was on the phone with Elmar. He said he was on the phone with Masha before.
So we are kind of German speaking group that knows each other and Masha and I will be on the phone tomorrow anyways as well.
So should I reach out to you, Charles, or to you, Steven about Tuesday evening?
Steven and Masha. Steven and Masha is the fastest way to do it.
Okay, perfect. Let's do that. Yeah. Okay, great.
All right, everybody. Thank you. Great work, everybody. Christine again. Big round of applause, everybody.
Thank you.
Great work. Courage for your inspiration. Go to the telegram group, everybody, if you have the time, and we'll see you again on Tuesday. Thank you, Maria, Masha, everybody who's contributed to today. Bye for now and live. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Christine. Thanks, everyone. Bye. Bye.