1 0:00:00 --> 0:00:01 That's the way that it goes. 2 0:00:03 --> 0:00:11 All right, so everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International. 3 0:00:12 --> 0:00:18 This group was founded by and for those of you who have heard this introduction, please listen again for two reasons. 4 0:00:18 --> 0:00:22 One, because what you hear today is not what you heard yesterday. 5 0:00:23 --> 0:00:31 And two, because there are new visitors, new attendees to the group, including our speaker. 6 0:00:31 --> 0:00:33 So it's also relevant to you. 7 0:00:33 --> 0:00:38 Dr. Lawrence Pilewski will call you Larry for the purposes of our friendly group. 8 0:00:39 --> 0:00:47 So this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost of Wales in mid 2021 during the darkest days of the COVID 9 0:00:47 --> 0:00:55 scam responses with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health. 10 0:00:56 --> 0:01:02 Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower and activist. 11 0:01:02 --> 0:01:05 His medical specialty is radiology. 12 0:01:05 --> 0:01:09 Sadly, the need for this group is increasing, not decreasing. 13 0:01:09 --> 0:01:13 The forces of evil globally are not disappearing. 14 0:01:13 --> 0:01:18 As we know with the World Holocaust Organization, sometimes called the World Health Organization. 15 0:01:20 --> 0:01:23 I'm Charles Coviss, the moderator of this group. 16 0:01:23 --> 0:01:26 I'm Australasia's passion provocateur. 17 0:01:26 --> 0:01:30 And my jacket is red because red is the color of passion. 18 0:01:30 --> 0:01:35 I've practiced law for 20 years before changing career 30 years ago. 19 0:01:35 --> 0:01:42 And over the last 11 years, I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad 20 0:01:42 --> 0:01:49 medical advice. I'm also chief executive officer of an industrial hemp company based here in Australia. 21 0:01:50 --> 0:01:56 The people who attend this group are indeed passionate about the aims of this group. 22 0:01:56 --> 0:02:03 We comprise lots of professions, doctors, lawyers, naturopaths, homeopaths, healers, 23 0:02:03 --> 0:02:10 journalists, engineers, writers, researchers, scientists, filmmakers, dentists, nurses, investors, 24 0:02:10 --> 0:02:18 financiers, patent experts, professors and educators, primate experts, thinkers, peacemakers, 25 0:02:18 --> 0:02:22 philosophers and troublemakers. Larry, there's plenty of troublemakers here. 26 0:02:24 --> 0:02:32 The world needs troublemakers. And we're from the UK, USA, Australia, Canada, Argentina, Sweden, Norway, 27 0:02:32 --> 0:02:38 Borneo, New Zealand, South Africa, Czech Republic, Germany, Austria and from other places. 28 0:02:38 --> 0:02:45 If you are from another country, please put it in the chat. If this is your first time here, welcome 29 0:02:45 --> 0:02:51 and feel free to introduce yourself in the chat. We ask that you show your name on the screen so we 30 0:02:51 --> 0:02:58 know who you are. If you publish a newsletter or a podcast or you have a radio or TV show or you have 31 0:02:58 --> 0:03:04 written a book, put the links into the chat so we can follow you, promote you and find you. 32 0:03:05 --> 0:03:10 This group meets at least twice weekly in a true spirit of exploration and discovery to increase 33 0:03:10 --> 0:03:15 our understanding of what's going on and how to more effectively preserve and fight for truth, 34 0:03:16 --> 0:03:23 ethics, justice, freedom and health. Most of us understand that we're in the middle of World War 35 0:03:23 --> 0:03:30 Three and that there are various battle lines as part of this war. Some of us believe we are in a 36 0:03:30 --> 0:03:38 continuation of World War Two or this might even be the 5G war. Most of us understand the development 37 0:03:38 --> 0:03:48 of science. As Carl Sagan wrote, science requires an almost complete openness to all ideas. On the 38 0:03:48 --> 0:03:54 other hand, it requires the most rigorous and uncompromising scepticism. The meeting runs for 39 0:03:54 --> 0:03:59 two and a half hours, after which for those with the time, Tom Rodman runs a video telegram 40 0:03:59 --> 0:04:07 meeting. Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join. We will listen to Larry 41 0:04:07 --> 0:04:12 Pelewski, our guest presenter, for as long as you wish to speak, Larry, and then we have Q&A. 42 0:04:13 --> 0:04:18 If you wish to ask any of you a question, raise your hand using the reactions tab on the bottom 43 0:04:18 --> 0:04:24 of your screen. Stephen Frost, via long established tradition, will be asking the first set of 44 0:04:24 --> 0:04:31 questions. There is no censorship. It's a free speech environment, but we have proper, efficient 45 0:04:31 --> 0:04:37 and effective moderation. Be patient with the process of the meeting. Different people have 46 0:04:37 --> 0:04:43 totally different views about what is important, what is relevant and what is nonsense in the 47 0:04:43 --> 0:04:49 circumstances in which we find ourselves. Free speech is crucially important in our fight to 48 0:04:49 --> 0:04:55 preserve our human freedoms. And for those who have not been exposed to communism, my parents 49 0:04:55 --> 0:05:04 were refugees from communism from Hungary. And the communist strategy is always to start with 50 0:05:04 --> 0:05:09 the liberation of free speech. The tragedy these days is that a majority of people would 51 0:05:09 --> 0:05:17 choose security ahead of freedom and then end up with neither. This group can help you to identify 52 0:05:17 --> 0:05:23 your beliefs and perhaps help you change those that no longer serve you. This group can help you 53 0:05:23 --> 0:05:30 raise your self-awareness. If you find yourself upset by anything that's said, look inside yourself. 54 0:05:30 --> 0:05:37 That's where your upset originates. If you're offended by anything, be offended. We are genuinely 55 0:05:37 --> 0:05:44 not interested. We reject the offence industry that requires nobody to say anything that may 56 0:05:44 --> 0:05:50 offend anybody. I have a list of nine standard responses to someone who claims to be offended 57 0:05:50 --> 0:05:57 by something that I said. If you want a copy of the nine standard responses, I'm happy to share it. 58 0:05:58 --> 0:06:05 I urge you never to apologise to someone who claims to be offended. Decide to have an open 59 0:06:05 --> 0:06:11 mind. It's the fastest way to learn. We come with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear. 60 0:06:12 --> 0:06:16 And our guest speaker, Larry, is certainly loves children. He must love children if he's a 61 0:06:16 --> 0:06:24 paediatrician. Fear is the opposite of love. Fear squashes you, suppresses you, depresses you. That's 62 0:06:24 --> 0:06:31 where depression comes from. Love, on the other hand, expands you, emerges, energises you, enhances 63 0:06:31 --> 0:06:38 you. Loving those with different views to your own is a challenge and we encourage you to embrace 64 0:06:39 --> 0:06:45 that challenge. If you have a solution or a product that will help people, put the details into the 65 0:06:45 --> 0:06:51 chat. If you have links and resources that will be helpful, put them into the chat also. The meeting 66 0:06:51 --> 0:06:56 is recorded and is uploaded within a couple of days onto the Rumble channel. I will put the link 67 0:06:56 --> 0:07:06 into the chat. Now, welcome to Dr. Lawrence Pilewski. Larry, who we thank you so much for 68 0:07:06 --> 0:07:13 giving us your time and wisdom and insights. We've been having some drama. Sorry for the late notice, 69 0:07:13 --> 0:07:17 everybody, but I'm pleased to see that we've got 57 people here. Well done, Stephen Frost, 70 0:07:17 --> 0:07:23 for running around. Thank you, Stephen, for creating this group, for organising, Larry. 71 0:07:24 --> 0:07:27 And Stephen, before we get to Larry, would you like to say anything? 72 0:07:28 --> 0:07:37 Well, thanks to Shasta for helping me and to Curtis Cost as well, he helped and various other 73 0:07:37 --> 0:07:42 people. But anyway, Larry, I'm sorry I got your name wrong. I've obviously been reading too much 74 0:07:42 --> 0:07:51 about Pavlov and I managed to get a V. Very good. It's seductive, isn't it, to put the V 75 0:07:51 --> 0:07:58 before the L. Pavlevsky, it sounds even better than Pilevsky, Larry, on the... So you might wish to 76 0:07:58 --> 0:08:03 change your name, but anyway, thank you so much for coming on at short notice. Very brave of you. 77 0:08:04 --> 0:08:09 And thank... Well, actually, we're a pretty nice crowd, so I don't think you'll find it stressful. 78 0:08:10 --> 0:08:14 And Larry, do you want to... You just got to talk or do you want to share your screen? I can make you 79 0:08:14 --> 0:08:23 a co-host if you wish. No, no, I'm happy to start talking and... Beautiful. I will talk for a shorter 80 0:08:23 --> 0:08:30 time than you're allotting me because I much prefer a back and forth conversation than me just 81 0:08:30 --> 0:08:38 droning on. So thank you for this opportunity. I'm glad I was able to accommodate for this 82 0:08:38 --> 0:08:44 opportunity. And thank you, Curtis and Shasta, for reaching out to me. What an introduction, Charles. 83 0:08:44 --> 0:08:52 That was quite... I was very taken by what you read and I appreciate it. So for people who are 84 0:08:52 --> 0:08:58 not familiar with me and my work, I'm a licensed pediatrician in New York State in the United 85 0:08:58 --> 0:09:06 States and I graduated NYU School of Medicine in 1987 and did a pediatric residency at Mount Sinai 86 0:09:06 --> 0:09:14 Hospital from 1987 to 1990. And after that, I did a one-year fellowship in the outpatient department 87 0:09:14 --> 0:09:20 at NYU School of Medicine at Bellevue Hospital where I also worked in the emergency room. 88 0:09:21 --> 0:09:27 And so for the first nine years after finishing medical school and residency and fellowship, 89 0:09:27 --> 0:09:34 I worked in a pediatric emergency room in the Bronx in New York. I covered a private practice 90 0:09:34 --> 0:09:41 on weekends on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. I ran a pediatric intensive care unit at a hospital 91 0:09:41 --> 0:09:50 in Manhattan. I covered the newborn nursery, the neonatal ICU, high-risk deliveries. I covered the 92 0:09:50 --> 0:09:56 inpatient pediatric ward. I taught residents and medical students. I worked in the emergency room 93 0:09:56 --> 0:10:03 at the same hospital and then eventually I worked in an outpatient clinic at that same hospital. 94 0:10:03 --> 0:10:10 And so over those nine years, I did what I was taught to do in medical school. I 95 0:10:11 --> 0:10:19 critically thought. And over the nine years, I saw that there was an apparent presentation of things 96 0:10:19 --> 0:10:26 in my experience that didn't match what it was that I was told should happen in the world of medicine 97 0:10:26 --> 0:10:35 out of residency. And instead of just trying to fit what I was seeing into the model of what I was 98 0:10:35 --> 0:10:42 told, I started to be really curious about what I was seeing that was different from what I was told. 99 0:10:42 --> 0:10:48 And lo and behold, I started to move into directions that many of my colleagues in 100 0:10:49 --> 0:10:55 my allopathic training were unable to hold space for, one of which was nutrition as a 101 0:10:55 --> 0:11:02 field of medicine. And then of course, the big subject of vaccines. And that started in about 102 0:11:02 --> 0:11:09 1998. But if I go back even further, I realized that 1991 was the first time that I questioned 103 0:11:09 --> 0:11:16 vaccines without realizing that I was questioning vaccines when the hepatitis B vaccine was mandated 104 0:11:16 --> 0:11:23 for every newborn. And I thought, wait a second, there's never been a disease that we vaccinated 105 0:11:23 --> 0:11:31 for that didn't affect the population that were vaccinating. And so it just seemed strange to me 106 0:11:31 --> 0:11:37 that were we given a vaccine. And it wasn't until about 1998 when I realized from a mother who came 107 0:11:37 --> 0:11:43 up to me and said, Dr. Larry, did you know there's mercury in vaccines that I actually started 108 0:11:43 --> 0:11:53 researching the subject. So fast forward to 2020. When I first heard about the illness called 109 0:11:53 --> 0:12:02 COVID, I was very taken aback by what was reported and how the diagnosis was made. 110 0:12:02 --> 0:12:10 And then when I got COVID myself in March, April of 2020, and felt the symptoms, 111 0:12:11 --> 0:12:19 I knew right then and there that this was a poisoning of epic proportions. And that poisoning 112 0:12:19 --> 0:12:28 was very common with the same symptoms of people who were presenting all around New York that my 113 0:12:28 --> 0:12:35 colleagues were seeing. And I have been delving into the subject of viruses and what viruses can 114 0:12:35 --> 0:12:42 and can't do for well over 10 years. And I knew that this could not be a viral illness. 115 0:12:42 --> 0:12:49 And based on the way that the symptoms were presenting, I knew that we were not doing what's 116 0:12:49 --> 0:12:55 called a differential diagnosis. I knew that we were not looking at all of the things that could 117 0:12:55 --> 0:13:03 be causing the kind of serious symptoms we were seeing, which did not look like flu-like symptoms 118 0:13:03 --> 0:13:09 at all. Flu-like symptoms, whether you call it a virus or not, even though it's not a viral 119 0:13:09 --> 0:13:15 illness, flu-like symptoms almost always look like material coming out of the body. There's 120 0:13:15 --> 0:13:20 mucus coming out of the nose. There's mucus coming out of the chest. There's cough that's productive. 121 0:13:20 --> 0:13:26 There's fever. There's vomiting. There's diarrhea. There's rashes. Things are moving out of the body. 122 0:13:26 --> 0:13:36 This illness had very few of those common symptoms. In fact, it was a presentation of symptoms that 123 0:13:36 --> 0:13:43 looked like something was going in the body. And the dry cough and the inability to maintain 124 0:13:43 --> 0:13:49 oxygen levels while still having adequate carbon dioxide levels made this more of a blood disorder. 125 0:13:50 --> 0:13:56 And so many of us in New York who were seeing this for the first time said, this is a blood 126 0:13:56 --> 0:14:04 disorder. This isn't a respiratory disorder. And we were silenced. We were censored. And many of 127 0:14:04 --> 0:14:11 the doctors were moved from certain positions in their hospitals to other positions. And then 128 0:14:11 --> 0:14:19 doctors around the world who were saying, this is a blood disorder, were then censored. And then 129 0:14:19 --> 0:14:25 sometime late in 2020, the article came out. I don't remember exactly which journal it was 130 0:14:25 --> 0:14:33 that said COVID-19 is a blood disorder, not a respiratory disorder. And so from the very beginning, 131 0:14:33 --> 0:14:41 it was very clear to many of us who were doing a differential diagnosis that these symptoms were 132 0:14:41 --> 0:14:48 not typical of a flu and were much more like a poison. And all of that conversation was squelched. 133 0:14:48 --> 0:14:57 And for a scientific method, that was dangerous. And we realized that as doctors and other 134 0:14:57 --> 0:15:03 practitioners were getting people better with non-pharmaceutical and pharmaceutical interventions, 135 0:15:05 --> 0:15:12 we realized that they were getting censored as well, which meant that somebody was trying to make 136 0:15:12 --> 0:15:19 a certain narrative happen and somebody was trying to make another narrative disappear. 137 0:15:19 --> 0:15:26 And so it became very clear to those of us who do differentials, who critically think, 138 0:15:26 --> 0:15:31 who are willing to be wrong, but at least have a discussion, a debate or a dialogue, 139 0:15:31 --> 0:15:41 we're all being pushed away. And you saw people who were getting better with the protocols that 140 0:15:41 --> 0:15:47 many physicians and health practitioners were using all over the world. And that information 141 0:15:47 --> 0:15:55 was squelched. And we knew that it was being squelched because the EUA couldn't be used 142 0:15:56 --> 0:16:04 for an experimental injection if there was an adequate solution for improving people's symptoms. 143 0:16:05 --> 0:16:11 And so you have a layer of lies and difficulties trying to get the truth out 144 0:16:11 --> 0:16:19 regarding what was getting people sick. And then you had another layer of lies about how practitioners 145 0:16:19 --> 0:16:25 were getting people better. And that was being squelched. And of course, there's issues around 146 0:16:25 --> 0:16:32 the mask and lockdowns and whoever quarantines healthy people and the whole idea that a mask 147 0:16:32 --> 0:16:38 actually might make you sicker rather than make you healthier. But when those of us 148 0:16:38 --> 0:16:46 who were looking at the ingredients of this shot that we were getting some information about, 149 0:16:47 --> 0:16:56 we were looking at it at the end of 2020. I did a podcast for Canada in October, November 2020. 150 0:16:56 --> 0:17:02 And after researching the information, I made a statement that this shot was a murder weapon. 151 0:17:02 --> 0:17:10 And lo and behold, it appears that that's the case. And so how could you have a vaccine, 152 0:17:10 --> 0:17:16 and I use the word vaccine in italics, how can you have a vaccine for an illness that's not caused 153 0:17:16 --> 0:17:27 by an infection? How can you have a vaccine for an illness that isn't infectious? And so if it's not 154 0:17:27 --> 0:17:33 an infectious illness, and of course, we can talk about spread and how it seems to spread around 155 0:17:33 --> 0:17:39 people in a similar environment, which may have nothing to do with contagion and have something 156 0:17:39 --> 0:17:44 and have something to do with the environment completely. But how could you have a vaccine 157 0:17:45 --> 0:17:51 that's not for an illness that's caused by an infectious agent? And so the question must be 158 0:17:51 --> 0:17:57 raised, if there's no infection, what is this injection? And lo and behold, what many of us 159 0:17:57 --> 0:18:07 have seen, and I do a podcast every Thursday evening, 7pm Eastern time in New York, called 160 0:18:07 --> 0:18:12 critically thinking with Dr. T and Dr. P, where Dr. Sherry Tenpenny and I go through topics of the 161 0:18:12 --> 0:18:19 day and critically think through things, and we're going to talk about the different ways that 162 0:18:19 --> 0:18:26 critically think through things. And once a month, we do a five docs podcast with the two of us and 163 0:18:26 --> 0:18:35 Dr. Christiane Northrup, Dr. Lee Merritt, and Dr. Carrie Madde. And it was April 22nd of 2021, 164 0:18:36 --> 0:18:42 where we did our first five docs, where we talked about the flood of stories we were hearing 165 0:18:43 --> 0:18:53 about women whose menstrual cycles were being changed. And those Facebook posts were being 166 0:18:53 --> 0:19:00 removed. Those people who were reporting injury were being removed. And again, more of the 167 0:19:00 --> 0:19:09 censorship and the flood of reports that doctors were seeing regarding increases in cancer rates, 168 0:19:09 --> 0:19:15 in increasing in menstrual cycle difficulties, increasing in infertility, increasing in 169 0:19:15 --> 0:19:24 miscarriages, and then soon to see increases in heart attacks, myocarditis, strokes, cancers, 170 0:19:25 --> 0:19:31 neurological problems, autoimmune diseases, fetal demise. I mean, there are nurses who are now 171 0:19:31 --> 0:19:41 nurses who are now reporting in great numbers the increase in fetal demises in OBGYN and OB suites, 172 0:19:42 --> 0:19:48 and how that information is being squelched, and how many people in hospitals who went in for a 173 0:19:48 --> 0:19:54 motor vehicle accident were labeled COVID death, even though their death was from something 174 0:19:54 --> 0:20:00 unrelated to COVID. And that was happening all over the world and how the intervention 175 0:20:00 --> 0:20:06 of a ventilator was actually an inappropriate intervention for taking care of someone who was 176 0:20:06 --> 0:20:12 hypoxic with different difficulty breathing, having nothing to do with a respiratory disorder, 177 0:20:12 --> 0:20:18 but having to do with a blood disorder that in due time created lung pathology because of the 178 0:20:18 --> 0:20:23 poisoning of the blood that then affected the lungs in addition to every other part of the body. 179 0:20:24 --> 0:20:33 And so we're seeing neurological problems, autoimmune problems, etc. And the question that 180 0:20:33 --> 0:20:40 I think I always raise is why would that be censored? Why would people who legitimately 181 0:20:40 --> 0:20:46 have those experiences straight in front of them be told that their experience is wrong 182 0:20:47 --> 0:20:53 and no one should listen to them? And why would they be censored unless there's another agenda 183 0:20:53 --> 0:21:01 and so it's not a world of freedom, it's a world of tyranny where open discussion and debate is 184 0:21:01 --> 0:21:10 no longer accepted. And that should raise an alert even to people who are unaware that there's a 185 0:21:10 --> 0:21:17 problem. It should raise an alert to people who are just peering out into the future and saying, 186 0:21:18 --> 0:21:26 and saying, what would be going on that would allow for the censorship of public discussion 187 0:21:27 --> 0:21:35 and people who are interested in talking through a problem? And I think, you know, 188 0:21:35 --> 0:21:42 again, as I was saying before we started the recording, most people in my experience don't 189 0:21:42 --> 0:21:48 know things because we tell them things. They know things because they either have their own 190 0:21:48 --> 0:21:55 experiment and their own experience in their own backyard or because someone close to them has 191 0:21:55 --> 0:22:02 an experience that impacts them. But to just hand people the news that says, yeah, people are dying 192 0:22:02 --> 0:22:09 in record numbers of heart attacks and cardiac arrest and myocarditis and yeah, there are hundreds 193 0:22:09 --> 0:22:16 if not thousands of young professional and amateur athletes who are just collapsing all over the place. 194 0:22:19 --> 0:22:26 In order for them to believe it, sometimes they really need to know someone or have the experience 195 0:22:26 --> 0:22:34 themselves for that wake up to happen. And I think one of the things that I've seen, at least in the 196 0:22:34 --> 0:22:43 states, that is encouraging is that parents and others who are not parents who never thought to 197 0:22:43 --> 0:22:51 question the vaccine schedule are now not only questioning the truthfulness of this COVID injection, 198 0:22:51 --> 0:22:59 but they're questioning the entire childhood and adult vaccine schedule. And I commend those people, 199 0:22:59 --> 0:23:05 even though they may have suffered at the hands of one or more of the childhood and adult shots or 200 0:23:06 --> 0:23:15 even the COVID shot itself. But we have a lot of recovery to do going forward as we come out from 201 0:23:15 --> 0:23:24 under a rock and as we un-numb and un-dumb the society that we're living in as a whole. 202 0:23:24 --> 0:23:32 And we realize that it is a dark, sinister agenda that is at play here. 203 0:23:33 --> 0:23:42 And it's not as if there hasn't been this agenda for centuries. And I think when you tell people 204 0:23:42 --> 0:23:48 or when you share with people that your experience and your knowledge and your research shows 205 0:23:48 --> 0:23:54 that there is a dark agenda going on, their first response is, no, that could never happen. Our 206 0:23:54 --> 0:24:01 government wouldn't hurt us. That's not possible. How could that possibly happen? They have our best 207 0:24:01 --> 0:24:10 interest at heart. And you see, we have a rear view mirror that's blocked. There's a towel over it, 208 0:24:10 --> 0:24:17 or there's masking tape over it, or it broke or it fell off. Because we forget that history does 209 0:24:17 --> 0:24:25 repeat itself. And the cleverness, and I use that word in italics, of the people behind the agenda 210 0:24:25 --> 0:24:33 is that they know, they know that people have retrograde amnesia. They know it happened in the 211 0:24:33 --> 0:24:41 past, but they just can't fathom that it would happen in the present. And that's an unfortunate 212 0:24:42 --> 0:24:49 sort of cognitive dissonance. And that's one of the ways in which those who are in charge of 213 0:24:49 --> 0:24:55 this sinister agenda get their agenda through with their propaganda and with their lies. 214 0:24:56 --> 0:25:06 Because they know that people are desperate for an authority outside of them to whom they can 215 0:25:06 --> 0:25:16 offer their worship and their idolization. And I think it's the book Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky, 216 0:25:17 --> 0:25:24 where he said, I'm paraphrasing, so long as people are free, they're going to incessantly and 217 0:25:25 --> 0:25:36 needingly look for someone or something to worship. And this is very true, that we have 218 0:25:37 --> 0:25:44 had centuries worth of an outsourcing of our knowledge base, an outsourcing of our worship 219 0:25:45 --> 0:25:52 in order to feel like we are okay. And that freedom, that sovereignty has been surrendered 220 0:25:53 --> 0:25:59 through centuries. It's an issue of shifting of consciousness. And I think we are at a time in 221 0:25:59 --> 0:26:08 the world where we are shifting the consciousness. We are realizing on a huge global level that we 222 0:26:08 --> 0:26:17 can no longer allow a source outside of ourselves to tell us what's true. And that we must go inside. 223 0:26:17 --> 0:26:30 And whether people worship the God, a God, spirit, soul, Buddha, or even atheists, we realize that the 224 0:26:30 --> 0:26:38 most important thing is for us to go inside and check how we know things. And I've often taught 225 0:26:38 --> 0:26:43 to parents and in my lectures and podcasts, that there are three ways to know things. 226 0:26:43 --> 0:26:51 One is intuition, where you hear things, you see things, you think of things, you know things, 227 0:26:51 --> 0:26:57 and you look at things and you say to yourself, let me check in. Let me see if on a body scale, 228 0:26:57 --> 0:27:07 on an autonomic nervous system scale, what I'm considering could be true. The second way is that 229 0:27:08 --> 0:27:18 we have experiences. We experience, we experiment, we trial and error, we go over and over and over 230 0:27:18 --> 0:27:28 things, we research, we have experiments, and we come to know things because we've actually gone 231 0:27:28 --> 0:27:36 through the mud and we've come to know things. And if anybody knows kids, has kids, studies kids, 232 0:27:37 --> 0:27:45 that's how kids learn. That's how kids learn. They learn by being curious and being okay with 233 0:27:45 --> 0:27:55 uncertainty and unknown. And they go forth doing things to have experiences so that they then can 234 0:27:55 --> 0:28:02 incorporate that knowledge and that wisdom into themselves. And then the third thing, the way we 235 0:28:02 --> 0:28:11 know things is because we are told. And unfortunately, over the number of years that I've been alive, 236 0:28:11 --> 0:28:19 especially since I've been in college from 40 plus years ago, I have watched a slow drain 237 0:28:19 --> 0:28:28 of the first and second ways of gaining knowledge and a massive amplification of knowledge based on 238 0:28:28 --> 0:28:36 what they say. And I think we are at a tremendous crossroads. And if we are going to truly shift 239 0:28:36 --> 0:28:44 the consciousness in our world, I think it's going to start with parents. And the way I believe it's 240 0:28:44 --> 0:28:51 going to start with parents is that we stop giving kids the answers to everything that we want them 241 0:28:52 --> 0:29:01 to know. And we stop doing things for them. We stop making it easier for them. And we allow kids 242 0:29:01 --> 0:29:08 to start to figure things out for themselves. Because I have watched over the last 30 plus years 243 0:29:10 --> 0:29:20 a growing set of parents that is bringing up kids who have to rely on an outsourcing of knowledge. 244 0:29:21 --> 0:29:28 Because the parents are being so over loving that they're doing it for their kids 245 0:29:29 --> 0:29:35 almost all the time. So the kids never have to feel what it's like to learn something through 246 0:29:35 --> 0:29:41 child and era. Because the parents just don't want their kids to feel uncomfortable anymore. 247 0:29:41 --> 0:29:52 And so if we're going to change the next set of our generation, I feel and strongly that there's a 248 0:29:52 --> 0:29:59 different kind of parenting that's required where we go back to guiding children to learn things 249 0:29:59 --> 0:30:06 and not giving them the answers. So that when they try something and then they look up and they say, 250 0:30:07 --> 0:30:13 give me the answer, you say, yeah, I'd love to give you the answer, but I want you to find it 251 0:30:13 --> 0:30:21 yourself. You know, it's that video I once saw of a kid, maybe four years of age, who was 252 0:30:22 --> 0:30:30 leaping up onto a stool to try to make it happen. And he must have fallen about four, five, six times. 253 0:30:30 --> 0:30:36 Sometimes he fell flat on his face. And the person who was videotaping him, which I think was his dad, 254 0:30:37 --> 0:30:43 just stood there and watched. And then as the kid kept doing it, he got closer and closer and closer 255 0:30:43 --> 0:30:52 until he finally got on the stool and he stood up there in a victory, screamed like this, yes. 256 0:30:54 --> 0:31:02 And you knew that this kid had learned something. You knew that this kid had developed 257 0:31:02 --> 0:31:09 a sense of confidence, a sense of ability to try even though failure was happening. 258 0:31:11 --> 0:31:21 And then the kid can go forth and still in his curiosity do more. And we have lost that kind of 259 0:31:21 --> 0:31:28 parenting in our society because the comments that I've heard over the last 30 years from, 260 0:31:28 --> 0:31:33 I don't know how many hundreds if not thousands of parents, is, well, I don't want my kid to feel bad. 261 0:31:36 --> 0:31:44 And so you take away half of life when you take away the discomfort because we who are older 262 0:31:44 --> 0:31:51 know that wisdom comes from the opportunity to go through a trial and error and the depth of pain 263 0:31:51 --> 0:31:59 and loss and sorrow that's required in order to come up with something new and something wow. 264 0:32:01 --> 0:32:08 And that starts when an infant becomes a toddler because the infant becoming a toddler is 265 0:32:09 --> 0:32:15 unbelievably full of curiosity. And if we watch what's happening in our world, 266 0:32:16 --> 0:32:22 there's no longer any curiosity. There's just this swallowing of an outside comment 267 0:32:23 --> 0:32:33 that must be true because they said it. And so if they said it, why would I have any reason to 268 0:32:33 --> 0:32:41 question it? And for those of us who have done our homework, we know that the agenda is to stop 269 0:32:41 --> 0:32:49 people from thinking. We know that the agenda is to stop people from using their critical mind 270 0:32:50 --> 0:32:57 because otherwise if you used your critical mind, you might actually see what's underneath that rock. 271 0:32:59 --> 0:33:04 And so we are at a crossroads not just in medicine, not just in science, 272 0:33:05 --> 0:33:10 not just in media, not just in government, but we're at a crossroads in consciousness. 273 0:33:11 --> 0:33:20 Where we are actually really required to go further inside and ask ourselves what's true 274 0:33:21 --> 0:33:30 and where do we get that truth from and how do we arrive at our thought process and our knowledge 275 0:33:30 --> 0:33:37 and our wisdom. And it's not going to come from an internet source. It's not going to come from a 276 0:33:37 --> 0:33:44 video game. It's not going to come from a cell phone and it's not going to come from a computer. 277 0:33:45 --> 0:33:53 It's going to come from us really allowing ourselves to toil and experiment and explore 278 0:33:54 --> 0:33:59 and engage in trial and error so that our knowledge can never be taken away from us 279 0:34:00 --> 0:34:05 because it's our experience. So no one can tell me that my experience is wrong. 280 0:34:05 --> 0:34:13 No matter how much they try, I know that if I saw a kid get a shot and die 281 0:34:15 --> 0:34:23 because it happened in front of me, I know no one can take that away from me. And if we watch 282 0:34:23 --> 0:34:32 the whole concept of gaslighting and we watch what's happened over decades of parents who have been 283 0:34:32 --> 0:34:38 gaslit when their children have gone to the pediatrician or the family doc for their 284 0:34:39 --> 0:34:46 pediatric routine visits and the kids were never the same after their shots and the parents would 285 0:34:46 --> 0:34:54 see their kids not the same and the doctor would privately say, yeah, it was probably the shots, 286 0:34:54 --> 0:35:01 but never write it in the chart or never agree to speaking about it in public. We've been seeing 287 0:35:02 --> 0:35:10 that for decades. So what's happening now with the COVID injection is the same playbook. It's just 288 0:35:10 --> 0:35:19 amplified on a much larger scale. And so with the CDC recommending this murder weapon to children 289 0:35:19 --> 0:35:26 in the United States in order for get into school, and we know that state governments in the United 290 0:35:26 --> 0:35:36 States and departments of health are very apt to simply accept that if the CDC made the 291 0:35:36 --> 0:35:43 recommendation, it must be a good one and will implement it even though the injection is only 292 0:35:43 --> 0:35:51 authorized and not licensed for or approved for use in the pediatric schedule. We know that there's 293 0:35:51 --> 0:35:58 going to be a crossroads where parents are either their parents are going to be faced 294 0:35:58 --> 0:36:07 with one crossroad or another, either take your kid out of school or allow the state to tell you 295 0:36:07 --> 0:36:13 what's best for your kid, which has been going on for a long time now is now amplified in so many 296 0:36:13 --> 0:36:20 ways, especially regarding the curriculum and the transgender movement and the clinics and the whole 297 0:36:20 --> 0:36:30 lot. And we're going to need parents to decide, do I take my kid out of school and save my kid 298 0:36:30 --> 0:36:39 from a harmful intervention or do I send my kid to the wolves, to the state and worry whether or 299 0:36:39 --> 0:36:45 not I'm going to get my kid back, worry whether or not my kid's going to ever walk again, worry 300 0:36:45 --> 0:36:51 whether or not my kid's heart is going to work, worry whether or not my kids are ever going to be 301 0:36:51 --> 0:36:58 able to have children so that I can be a grandparent. And that's really where we are in the United 302 0:36:58 --> 0:37:07 States and it's a race. It's truly a race to see whose voices are louder and who's going to comply 303 0:37:07 --> 0:37:14 and who's not going to comply. And so all the information in the world, all the publication of 304 0:37:14 --> 0:37:23 data in the world, I don't know is sufficient. I think and I've experienced that most of what 305 0:37:23 --> 0:37:31 moves the needle is the experience that people are going to have to go through. And in my experience, 306 0:37:32 --> 0:37:38 the only thing that moves the needle in the world is your purchasing power. And if you stop buying a 307 0:37:38 --> 0:37:45 product, if you stop buying a product, then whoever's in authority will eventually listen. 308 0:37:46 --> 0:37:53 But as long as you're buying the product, you are complying to their agenda and you will succumb 309 0:37:53 --> 0:38:00 to the consequences if you can even identify what the consequences are from the choices that you make. 310 0:38:01 --> 0:38:06 So I'm going to take a breath and stop right there. 311 0:38:08 --> 0:38:15 Wonderful. Larry, wonderful. I'll show, I want to share a screen just very relevant 312 0:38:16 --> 0:38:24 to what you just talked about. Here it is. Here's the hypnotizing of the masses. 313 0:38:25 --> 0:38:33 So it's just a beautiful depiction of let's distract people. Let's stop them thinking. Now 314 0:38:34 --> 0:38:38 the other, the before we get to Stephen, you talked about the, 315 0:38:39 --> 0:38:43 you talked about the need to worship and you quoted Dostoevsky and 316 0:38:44 --> 0:38:50 that need to worship is where we get celebrity worship, it appears, you know, we just love 317 0:38:50 --> 0:38:58 celebrities and so we're putting them on a pedestal. John Rappaport beautifully, I've been 318 0:38:58 --> 0:39:04 a fan of his for 15 years. He says that he articulates it very well. He says our system 319 0:39:05 --> 0:39:13 through planning, through the planning that you're talking about Larry has made the doctor royalty. 320 0:39:14 --> 0:39:21 And so it is inconceivable that our king could do harm to us and so that's the other challenge 321 0:39:21 --> 0:39:29 that we face. We've had a century of honoring and in Australia the government honours system, 322 0:39:30 --> 0:39:35 the disproportionate awarding of honours to anyone to do with the medical profession is 323 0:39:35 --> 0:39:40 extraordinary and so the whole game is everyone's got these badges on them that they've got an 324 0:39:40 --> 0:39:44 honour from the government. Oh you must be, so the system supports that. 325 0:39:45 --> 0:39:52 Charles, I remember when I was a kid, I remember observing that because the United States doesn't 326 0:39:52 --> 0:39:59 have a royal family, I remember having discussions with people and hearing people talk about 327 0:39:59 --> 0:40:08 the fact that we allow our royalty to be Hollywood and we allow our royalty to be government 328 0:40:10 --> 0:40:18 governmental politicians and we allow our royalty to be medical doctors and don't think that's 329 0:40:18 --> 0:40:26 a coincidence. You know and the propaganda, I mean you go way back to many of our grandparents 330 0:40:26 --> 0:40:33 who would say you know if the doctor said it therefore it's true and that has passed itself 331 0:40:33 --> 0:40:41 down over generations and I remember you know speaking to mothers along the way 332 0:40:42 --> 0:40:48 when they were starting to learn the side effects of the childhood injections in their kids, 333 0:40:49 --> 0:41:00 the male doctors would get extremely, extremely offended that the mothers would actually question 334 0:41:00 --> 0:41:07 something that they did but as women started to become pediatricians some of that started to 335 0:41:07 --> 0:41:14 shift although you had the women who acted like the men like how dare you I'm the authority but 336 0:41:14 --> 0:41:19 some of it started to shift when women were becoming pediatricians and they started to have 337 0:41:20 --> 0:41:31 their own children but yeah we definitely have this need to idolize that which is outside of us 338 0:41:31 --> 0:41:40 because you know it somehow gives us a sense of comfort that we can identify, we can know ourselves 339 0:41:40 --> 0:41:46 you know and you know go back to child development, how does a baby know him or herself 340 0:41:47 --> 0:41:54 through the eyes of the mother? Yeah and so who knows if that's really happening 341 0:41:54 --> 0:42:02 and so if that developmental stage is missed then of course there's going to be a need to know 342 0:42:02 --> 0:42:07 thyself through the eyes of others instead of knowing thyself through thine own eyes. 343 0:42:08 --> 0:42:14 But Lawrence very very few people know themselves these days. Yeah hence the challenge that's what 344 0:42:14 --> 0:42:19 this group is about as Stephen as we know this is an opportunity for self-awareness to know ourselves 345 0:42:19 --> 0:42:25 now last thing before we get to Stephen. Charles the important point is that many people think 346 0:42:25 --> 0:42:30 they know themselves but they haven't got a clue. Well you don't know that that's the other point. 347 0:42:32 --> 0:42:36 I'm willing to say that I do actually because they're not effective members of society. 348 0:42:36 --> 0:42:43 Yeah well I'm willing to say I'm learning myself. Sure because they're all trying yes. Yeah the last 349 0:42:43 --> 0:42:51 the last point before we get to Stephen's questions it's you talked about the need 350 0:42:51 --> 0:42:57 and we've talked about it in this group Larry and his twice weekly meetings that the move the needle 351 0:42:58 --> 0:43:04 through purchasing power and then why don't we move the needle through purchasing power and the 352 0:43:04 --> 0:43:12 answer is because of convenience. Right. I don't you know it's convenient now then look at the genius 353 0:43:12 --> 0:43:18 of the masters who are driving us because coming back to what you said parents are trying to make 354 0:43:18 --> 0:43:24 life easy for their kids. So of course kids have grown up oh gosh life is meant to be easy and 355 0:43:24 --> 0:43:31 therefore why would I not choose the convenient way. That's our mental challenge to to do the 356 0:43:31 --> 0:43:39 difficult way. So again this is again about outsourcing our comfort and so how many people 357 0:43:39 --> 0:43:45 in the world I don't know I can't tell you but how many people in the world got a shot because 358 0:43:45 --> 0:43:50 they had to go on that cruise or got a shot because they otherwise wouldn't be able to go to the 359 0:43:50 --> 0:43:57 wedding or got a shot because they couldn't go to the theater or the movie or the doctor gave the 360 0:43:57 --> 0:44:07 shot because he had his mortgage to pay. Right so yeah so my concern is where are we deciding 361 0:44:08 --> 0:44:16 about what's in our best interest versus what we like or what we want or this idea that my life 362 0:44:16 --> 0:44:24 will die if I don't go to the wedding my life will die if I don't go on the cruise and that's 363 0:44:24 --> 0:44:32 where we get back into those primal fearful hindbrain you know reptilian brain experiences. 364 0:44:33 --> 0:44:42 So Lawrence so the shallowness of contemporary life is remarkable it's really when you really 365 0:44:42 --> 0:44:48 think about what's going on and this going to weddings and funerals of people they never even 366 0:44:48 --> 0:44:57 like you know especially funerals and so people at both weddings unfortunately and funerals who 367 0:44:57 --> 0:45:00 aren't there for the right reasons in my opinion which is why I hate both 368 0:45:01 --> 0:45:11 but so that's one thing but also you're absolutely right on over these overprotective parents and 369 0:45:11 --> 0:45:18 stupid teachers in schools who are saying that they're protecting the children so people learn 370 0:45:18 --> 0:45:25 by suffering it's just nonsense we need to challenge this at every opportunity and you're 371 0:45:25 --> 0:45:31 you're a brilliant communicator Larry you so I think your biggest strength is that people when 372 0:45:31 --> 0:45:36 they listen to you you have this authenticity about you as a human being not only as a 373 0:45:36 --> 0:45:42 pediatrician but of course you know about children well not all pediatricians know about children but 374 0:45:42 --> 0:45:52 you do and any good mother will sense that so you have a very good platform to speak from and people 375 0:45:52 --> 0:45:57 will believe you I mean I believe you you know I can hear from the way you talk what you say 376 0:45:59 --> 0:45:59 I'm talking 377 0:46:03 --> 0:46:10 excuse me interrupted by my own wife anyway um sorry Larry that's okay 378 0:46:12 --> 0:46:21 so um I wonder so um you were talking about uh that so essentially I think you were you were 379 0:46:21 --> 0:46:27 talking about they have interfered with our consciousness and in particular in my opinion 380 0:46:27 --> 0:46:33 they target they've deliberately targeted children because why bother with people who've lived 50, 381 0:46:34 --> 0:46:40 60, 40 years you know it's too difficult maybe to change them so start with the children let's 382 0:46:41 --> 0:46:47 do a full frontal attack on children and target them with this nonsense at school you know we 383 0:46:47 --> 0:46:53 need to charge it if I had school-aged children now I definitely wouldn't allow them to go to 384 0:46:53 --> 0:47:00 school and anybody on this call uh needs to listen to someone like you who clearly has thought about 385 0:47:00 --> 0:47:06 these things very deeply and you speak with massive authenticity I think both as a doctor 386 0:47:06 --> 0:47:15 and as a human being wow thank you very much Stephen that's very sweet thank you um I want 387 0:47:15 --> 0:47:24 to take what you just said and and go down a rabbit hole because um I'm I'm okay saying 388 0:47:24 --> 0:47:33 that it's always been about getting the children it's never been about just taking down the 389 0:47:33 --> 0:47:41 population it's there's a there's in my research and in my understanding of what's going on in the 390 0:47:41 --> 0:47:53 world today it has always been about child sacrifice child killing sex trafficking rape 391 0:47:53 --> 0:48:05 pillage and this satanic if I might say uh uh custom of using the child as the greatest sacrifice 392 0:48:05 --> 0:48:19 to their god Baal or whoever it was and so the idea from my perspective and watching my you know 393 0:48:19 --> 0:48:27 in my research over the decades of shots and seeing what is in the shots and understanding 394 0:48:27 --> 0:48:35 what is in the shots and the absolute inability of the medical profession to read the science 395 0:48:35 --> 0:48:42 about what's in the shots for that cognitive dissonance and really understanding that if you 396 0:48:42 --> 0:48:49 read the chemical nature of the shots you will clearly see that it is meant to destroy the brain 397 0:48:49 --> 0:48:54 and the immune system I mean there's there's no doubt I mean anyone who has a simple understanding 398 0:48:55 --> 0:49:03 of science can just look at the ingredients look up to toxicology and understand that there's a 399 0:49:03 --> 0:49:09 direct correlation but in my experience it's always been about taking down the children 400 0:49:10 --> 0:49:19 and so they went and end around when it came to giving this shot to children even though there 401 0:49:19 --> 0:49:29 was never a problem with this illness in the pediatric population and they they've captured 402 0:49:29 --> 0:49:37 it and they are they are glorified for them they're like salivating that they have the the the 403 0:49:37 --> 0:49:46 capture of the children because that's been their goal the whole time yeah yes it's capturing it's 404 0:49:46 --> 0:49:55 capturing the children and the global the global organization for anti-trafficking I know the former 405 0:49:55 --> 0:50:03 CEO the number of children trafficked each year globally is a minimum of 10 million so Larry we've 406 0:50:03 --> 0:50:10 got a big we've got a big challenge before us of of doing what you're saying protecting you know 407 0:50:10 --> 0:50:15 so here's this dilemma isn't it we want to protect the children but we have to make life tough for 408 0:50:15 --> 0:50:20 them otherwise they're not going to be able to do anything so we've got some questions Stephen are 409 0:50:20 --> 0:50:25 you here with your questions we've got Winston and Jeremy with questions but but we but Larry 410 0:50:25 --> 0:50:32 Stephen traditionally has the first set of questions yeah I'm just so um Lawrence I'd be 411 0:50:32 --> 0:50:41 really interested to hear your views on um how we attack schools and the education system for the 412 0:50:41 --> 0:50:48 nonsense that they're feeding children at the moment and you know maybe it was bad 413 0:50:49 --> 0:50:57 when I was at primary school but it's 10 times worse now how how do we actually get and also 414 0:50:58 --> 0:51:06 you know you say um that we should uh stop and I agree we should stop uh 415 0:51:07 --> 0:51:13 paying in we should stop buying things you know how do we get everyone to understand the importance 416 0:51:13 --> 0:51:20 of that and to put aside their stupid desires you know to buy things that they convinced themselves 417 0:51:20 --> 0:51:27 that they need when in fact they don't need them at all they just want them right and a week later 418 0:51:27 --> 0:51:33 a week later they've forgotten all about it it was all about buying and impressing whomever I don't 419 0:51:33 --> 0:51:38 know pressing themselves um they don't even know why they bought it after they've forgotten they 420 0:51:38 --> 0:51:46 bought it a week later how do we educate people around this kind of nonsense you know so so um 421 0:51:46 --> 0:51:55 I mean I don't think I have the the answer but I have an answer um and I'm curious to hear people's 422 0:51:55 --> 0:52:03 response to it um I don't believe in attacking the school system at all I think that's a waste of 423 0:52:03 --> 0:52:14 time and the reason I think that's a waste of time is because you're asking daddy to be good to 424 0:52:14 --> 0:52:24 you now and not abuse you and not hurt you anymore you're going to the abuser you're going to the 425 0:52:24 --> 0:52:32 tyrant and saying please don't hurt me anymore instead I wouldn't think you Larry I wasn't 426 0:52:32 --> 0:52:37 thinking of saying meekly oh please don't do that I was thinking of telling them to do their damn 427 0:52:37 --> 0:52:43 job and educate the children I think it's a waste of time and here's why they're not going to listen 428 0:52:43 --> 0:52:51 because they don't have to because people keep sending their kids there people are still going 429 0:52:52 --> 0:52:58 right so you know it's like in in New York there's a basketball team called the New York Knicks 430 0:52:58 --> 0:53:06 and they've been horrible for years and the owner is not well liked at all but every night 431 0:53:07 --> 0:53:14 the Madison Square Garden in New York is sold out so why does he have to worry about public opinion 432 0:53:14 --> 0:53:23 of him or the Knicks right and I think that's similar to what I'm saying is you're trying to 433 0:53:23 --> 0:53:32 ask something that is immovable be different instead of saying I'm going to create something new 434 0:53:34 --> 0:53:42 in an environment that it works for me and works for others so I'm not even going to ask you to be 435 0:53:42 --> 0:53:50 different it's like it's like let's say there's one supermarket in a town and it has the worst produce 436 0:53:51 --> 0:53:58 it has the worst meats and and and animal products but it's the only thing that people have 437 0:53:58 --> 0:54:06 and they keep going to the person and saying we want better stuff and it never changes so what 438 0:54:06 --> 0:54:16 if the people get together and through classic economics market economy they put the money up 439 0:54:17 --> 0:54:24 to open a new supermarket and they work with the farmers and they work with the distributors 440 0:54:24 --> 0:54:28 who are going to give them better products what's going to happen to the old market 441 0:54:29 --> 0:54:38 no one's going to go and that market will close that's always been the way societies change 442 0:54:39 --> 0:54:46 is you know given given how lazy people are and how averse they are to taking responsibility for 443 0:54:46 --> 0:54:53 their own lives right how on earth are we going to convince enough people for long enough to create 444 0:54:53 --> 0:55:00 the uh the cooperative supermarket for lack of a better word the the thing is is that 445 0:55:00 --> 0:55:10 you know very early on in my career um I was told um I try to convince people all the time 446 0:55:10 --> 0:55:19 I try to coerce people I try to persuade people and what I realized was that that was the paradigm 447 0:55:19 --> 0:55:28 that we were suffering from I'm the doctor listen to me I know better and what I'm now realizing 448 0:55:28 --> 0:55:37 and have been for years is that that's not the way people move they move because they see something 449 0:55:37 --> 0:55:43 different happening and in a conversation they say oh yeah you know I buy my stuff at this 450 0:55:43 --> 0:55:49 supermarket oh yeah I don't go anymore oh really why don't you go anymore yeah because I'm actually 451 0:55:49 --> 0:55:55 part of a group that now shops here oh really you shop over there now hum that's interesting give me 452 0:55:55 --> 0:56:05 the name of it where is it sure and I feel that it always starts from the bottom up not from 453 0:56:06 --> 0:56:13 trying to change institutions institutions don't have to change they never have to change 454 0:56:15 --> 0:56:22 and maybe though the people who who decide to shop at the new place they're not doing it for the best 455 0:56:22 --> 0:56:27 of motives you know they may be doing it because they like they respect that person they want to 456 0:56:27 --> 0:56:34 be like that person you know so but it doesn't really matter I suppose how we how we achieve it 457 0:56:34 --> 0:56:41 the idea that I'm trying to put forth is you know our Buckminster Fuller to me said it best and I'm 458 0:56:41 --> 0:56:49 going to paraphrase it uh if you want to affect change you don't try to change what's there 459 0:56:49 --> 0:56:56 you try to build a new system that makes the old one obsolete absolutely and actually when I think 460 0:56:56 --> 0:57:01 about it Larry that's what we did with this group we just formed something different I didn't even 461 0:57:01 --> 0:57:07 realize it was different I just knew that it was probably best to create something in my own 462 0:57:07 --> 0:57:13 vision as opposed to the previous incarnation of this group which was taken over by scientists 463 0:57:13 --> 0:57:21 right and Larry Larry I hope Larry I hope you can I hope you can see 464 0:57:21 --> 0:57:26 Buckminster Fuller's Dimexian map behind my head I can't see it but thanks 465 0:57:28 --> 0:57:38 see my passion my passion hasn't been to make daddy listen to me no there's no reason to 466 0:57:39 --> 0:57:46 daddy continues to abuse me why do we keep going back asking daddy to make it better for us 467 0:57:46 --> 0:57:53 but the problem is uh Lawrence that um many people most people in fact seem to like being abused 468 0:57:53 --> 0:58:01 how do we deal with us that's okay because because we are not going to change everyone's minds 469 0:58:02 --> 0:58:09 we're going to it you know be the change you want to see in the world is much more 470 0:58:09 --> 0:58:16 transformative than hitting people over the head with the truth but Larry you talked about parents 471 0:58:16 --> 0:58:23 I absolutely agree with you the parents over protect their children and so do the grandparents 472 0:58:23 --> 0:58:29 they're all thinking about how can we entertain the children oh let's take them to to um what's 473 0:58:29 --> 0:58:35 a place in Paris you know and Florida they've got another one uh you know the places Disney 474 0:58:35 --> 0:58:43 World or whatever it is and they're all trying to gain the popularity of their children they 475 0:58:43 --> 0:58:48 haven't got any courage with their own children for god's sake so they they call you know they 476 0:58:48 --> 0:58:53 can't risk being unpopular with their own children they don't seem to realize that as parents and as 477 0:58:53 --> 0:58:59 grandparents instead of doting on their children they damn well need to show the children what life 478 0:58:59 --> 0:59:06 is about through reading to them for a start but very few parents read to their children so sorry 479 0:59:06 --> 0:59:15 I'm so oh no no I I think we're saying the same thing um similar things anyway but I'm of the 480 0:59:15 --> 0:59:23 belief as I said in my presentation that we must start with parenting and child education 481 0:59:24 --> 0:59:31 and teaching parents how the brain develops how children develop how we need to move in a different 482 0:59:31 --> 0:59:42 direction but I also don't feel that banging people over the head with the truth ever works 483 0:59:42 --> 0:59:52 and I truly believe that what moves the needle is people having an experience with you 484 0:59:53 --> 1:00:00 that gets them interested in what you now believe or what you're now interested in I don't want to 485 1:00:00 --> 1:00:07 judge these parents for going to Disney but I would say oh that's nice and this is what happens 486 1:00:08 --> 1:00:14 in my practice there are parents who say oh that's nice but I don't do that with my kids 487 1:00:15 --> 1:00:21 correct and that gives the other family an opportunity to open a conversation that says 488 1:00:21 --> 1:00:30 huh why is that right if we say to parents you shouldn't take your kids to those places 489 1:00:30 --> 1:00:36 no I wasn't suggesting that I wasn't I know you're not but I'm just saying because we're so 490 1:00:37 --> 1:00:42 big on trying to convince people and get people over to our side I think the best way to get 491 1:00:42 --> 1:00:51 people to our side is to be the side it because people will take interest when they start looking 492 1:00:51 --> 1:00:57 over and going but how come you're going over there like what is it like how many families in 493 1:00:57 --> 1:01:06 my practice have kids who are miles and miles and miles advanced in their development over 494 1:01:06 --> 1:01:14 other kids on the playground and some parents actually lean in and say how come and then the 495 1:01:14 --> 1:01:20 parents can say well we don't give shots to our kids you know what Larry Larry I think that um 496 1:01:21 --> 1:01:25 you know Jordan Peterson I don't really know him the clinical psychologist Canadian he's 497 1:01:25 --> 1:01:32 absolutely brilliant he's got a reading list on his website and I for one am very interested in 498 1:01:32 --> 1:01:38 that reading list and I think others are too I think someone like you a very respected um 499 1:01:39 --> 1:01:47 pediatrician um and with this authenticity which I talked about before you know you could do that 500 1:01:47 --> 1:01:53 you could put you could let it be known that you've got a list of books a hundred books 501 1:01:54 --> 1:02:00 on your website you know advice so that people actually have got something to turn to and think 502 1:02:00 --> 1:02:06 some will think I'm going to read every single one of those books because I've thought that about 503 1:02:06 --> 1:02:11 Jordan Peterson's books I haven't had time to look at them recently but I keep meaning to look um 504 1:02:12 --> 1:02:22 so I'm sorry I want to tell you a funny story sure um a mother emailed me about three or four years 505 1:02:22 --> 1:02:32 ago and uh she reminded me that I saw her son in 1999 now I wasn't even 40 years old yet 506 1:02:33 --> 1:02:40 and she said Dr. Pilevsky I've been following your work and I just want to let you know that when I 507 1:02:40 --> 1:02:48 when you saw my child in 1999 I asked you what book I should read to help bring up my child 508 1:02:49 --> 1:02:56 and you stopped for a second you turned to my son you pointed to him and you said 509 1:02:57 --> 1:03:05 read that book that's the book to read and she said she said I said to her read that book 510 1:03:05 --> 1:03:13 when I was pointing to her child and she said that was the most salient and brilliant information 511 1:03:13 --> 1:03:19 she had ever gotten from a doctor because the problem is and I'm not saying that books aren't 512 1:03:19 --> 1:03:27 helpful the problem is that we try to go here to get answers when the issue is right in front of us 513 1:03:27 --> 1:03:36 right in front of us and she got it and she said that it helped her take care of her child 514 1:03:37 --> 1:03:45 so much differently because she was connected to the child instead of flipping through books 515 1:03:45 --> 1:03:53 while the kids playing over there and so I'm not saying books aren't important but what I'm saying 516 1:03:53 --> 1:04:02 is that we are in need of returning parents to connecting to their child in a way that we haven't 517 1:04:02 --> 1:04:08 done and I'm happy to lay that out because I've been talking about it and lecturing about it 518 1:04:08 --> 1:04:13 and teaching it for a while but now's not the the the form but Larry I think it's very important 519 1:04:13 --> 1:04:18 that people like you and me for that matter and all the people on this group there are many 520 1:04:18 --> 1:04:25 brilliant people on this group that they realize how important they are in their children's eyes 521 1:04:26 --> 1:04:33 and pay attention to what their children think and try to guide them in this crazy world we're in 522 1:04:33 --> 1:04:39 one of the things I wanted to mention was that I meet people all the time so 40 miles away from 523 1:04:39 --> 1:04:45 where I'm sitting now Bertrand Russell you know the famous British philosopher lived 524 1:04:46 --> 1:04:53 I always and he died I can't quite remember when but I was always very sad after he died that I 525 1:04:53 --> 1:05:02 hadn't actually gone to knock on his door so I was only a child but even so I wished I had done that 526 1:05:02 --> 1:05:07 because I could see that you know bearing in mind what I understand the importance of what you're 527 1:05:07 --> 1:05:13 saying but you know talking to someone like Bertrand Russell would have been an incredible 528 1:05:13 --> 1:05:19 experience which I think would possibly life-changing but so I wanted to ask you 529 1:05:19 --> 1:05:28 about I meet people all the time here in North Wales who they have the opportunity to meet 530 1:05:28 --> 1:05:35 someone interesting and they can't make the time to do it they they're having an interesting 531 1:05:35 --> 1:05:40 conversation with someone this is another example and they haven't got time to finish the conversation 532 1:05:40 --> 1:05:46 because they've got to do some inane task you know it's more important than finishing the 533 1:05:46 --> 1:05:54 conversation so people don't seem to understand the value of wisdom and if they have a chance 534 1:05:54 --> 1:06:00 to hear some wisdom they don't want to listen to it and my feeling is that they are convinced 535 1:06:00 --> 1:06:07 that they will never ever need to be wise so why do they need to try to become wise 536 1:06:08 --> 1:06:13 they don't even know what the word wisdom is so what I'm trying to say is they're not suffering 537 1:06:13 --> 1:06:19 enough which is exactly what you were describing earlier they're not suffering enough there's no 538 1:06:19 --> 1:06:25 incentive for them and now I say to them well you better wake up because the government the 539 1:06:25 --> 1:06:28 tyranny is around the corner and they just smile 540 1:06:28 --> 1:06:41 Well yeah I don't feel like it's my job as a human being to do anything more than 541 1:06:41 --> 1:06:48 listen to them share my experience have compassion for them and just remember that 542 1:06:48 --> 1:06:54 but Larry you could influence them in a very positive way only if they're open to it and only 543 1:06:54 --> 1:07:00 if they're interested in my experience and I know that when you plant a seed Stephen 544 1:07:01 --> 1:07:09 the flower takes a while to bloom it doesn't happen overnight and my experience I have had 545 1:07:09 --> 1:07:18 so many families over the years who I didn't see for five ten years almost 20 years say to me 546 1:07:18 --> 1:07:27 you said one thing in 2004 and I just want you to know that it changed my life and these are the 547 1:07:27 --> 1:07:34 things that we're responsible for we're responsible for planting seeds sharing our experience and 548 1:07:34 --> 1:07:41 and having a conversation that doesn't judge that just allows for the differing of opinions 549 1:07:41 --> 1:07:46 and says you know yeah I understand you feel that way but I just want to let you know that 550 1:07:47 --> 1:07:54 I have a different experience and you plant that seed by sharing a different experience 551 1:07:54 --> 1:08:00 not by telling people at least from my perspective you need to know this because that didn't work 552 1:08:00 --> 1:08:08 when I was an earlier younger doctor in fact it was offensive from my perspective and what came 553 1:08:08 --> 1:08:15 back as feedback so I think that the way in which we share experiences the way in which we talk to 554 1:08:16 --> 1:08:22 people is part of the shift in consciousness in addition to parenting our kids different sure 555 1:08:22 --> 1:08:29 I think I think we agree on many things most things I would say but I haven't got your patience and I 556 1:08:29 --> 1:08:33 know that and I'm sorry I'm sorry to all those people on the call who think that I go on too 557 1:08:33 --> 1:08:41 long with these questions but I'm trying to I'm trying to give you a chance to show who you 558 1:08:41 --> 1:08:47 really are to the group but so my intentions are good but they don't always come off no I 559 1:08:48 --> 1:08:55 love your questioning okay I grew up in New York I grew up in New York Stephen yeah you're very 560 1:08:55 --> 1:09:03 generous you're very generous that's it all right so excellent excellent let's get on to the other 561 1:09:03 --> 1:09:09 questions everybody start putting your hands up because Stephen Larry you must know that 562 1:09:09 --> 1:09:14 Stephen could ask questions for the next two hours as could each one of us you know so it's 563 1:09:14 --> 1:09:19 a constant bat Stephen's going I want to ask this question but there are other people so anyway 564 1:09:20 --> 1:09:25 Stephen gets the last and Stephen gets the last set of questions Larry so Stephen just be patient 565 1:09:25 --> 1:09:31 till the end and he always finishes this is a point of course um because I'm not doing it 566 1:09:31 --> 1:09:38 more than all the while anyway for my sake I'm trying to I'm trying to show off the guest in a 567 1:09:38 --> 1:09:44 good light because we've invited the guests and they've been good enough to come on for no money 568 1:09:44 --> 1:09:51 so um yeah I think that you haven't paid Larry money what no we haven't paid him we'd like to 569 1:09:51 --> 1:09:57 pay you Larry but are you worth it but we can't we haven't got any money ourselves that's it oh 570 1:09:57 --> 1:10:03 and that's another thing Larry people bemoan the fact that they haven't got money all right come on 571 1:10:03 --> 1:10:08 stay with us David we're going to another another channel here come on Winston our favorite ex 572 1:10:08 --> 1:10:13 psychiatrist or you're still practicing psychiatry Winston no no no no I am just 573 1:10:14 --> 1:10:20 I know I know but thank you for the opportunity thank you Dr. Polevsky I think I got that 574 1:10:20 --> 1:10:30 pronunciation right and for a thought-provoking discussion um I will attempt to look at some of 575 1:10:30 --> 1:10:36 the things myself in my own life that you have suggested however you've confused me 576 1:10:38 --> 1:10:46 confuffled my mind a bit I understand that there has been some sort of uh dilemma 577 1:10:46 --> 1:10:55 uh differences in opinion between whether COVID whatever that really is COVID-19 now 23 and ongoing 578 1:10:56 --> 1:11:07 is uh respiratory disease or a blood disease now from my readings which have been quite has been 579 1:11:07 --> 1:11:16 quite a bit in addition to which I have communicated with uh two professors uh Bagby and um Yidin 580 1:11:17 --> 1:11:24 uh regarding this and I also listen to McCulloch who talks about the providing nasal rinse and so 581 1:11:24 --> 1:11:33 on I have to ask it is in my impression that COVID whatever it is really is a respiratory 582 1:11:33 --> 1:11:40 disease that lodges itself in our nasal passages forget anatomically what those are called which 583 1:11:40 --> 1:11:49 is why Dr. McCulloch suggests we rinse with 10% pylori and other solutions as well um so and that's 584 1:11:49 --> 1:11:57 why the lungs are affected there is CD4 CD8 cells that nobody talks about it talk about antibodies 585 1:11:58 --> 1:12:01 um but my question is having regards anatomy and 586 1:12:04 --> 1:12:13 a lot of us here have had anatomical studies we know that the blood and the air do not mix apart 587 1:12:13 --> 1:12:21 from the the diffusion gradients with respect to the air carbon dioxide and so on so my question 588 1:12:21 --> 1:12:37 to you is so if um COVID is primarily a blood-borne illness how does how does 589 1:12:39 --> 1:12:47 first of all the organism get into the bloodstream bearing in mind it does not mix and I don't think 590 1:12:47 --> 1:12:57 it could pass by air and then secondly how does it affect the lung and it has been my impression 591 1:12:57 --> 1:13:04 that that one of the that the issue is in terms of the blood is that the injection whatever is 592 1:13:04 --> 1:13:16 injected into people causes the harm in the blood um and so um so I'd like you to clarify 593 1:13:16 --> 1:13:24 elucidate for me those issues thank you Dr. Winston um okay I'm going to take a deep breath 594 1:13:24 --> 1:13:38 and plow into this so um we currently live in a world where everything that happens regarding 595 1:13:38 --> 1:13:49 illness is reframed as an infection everything at least in the pediatric world anytime someone gets 596 1:13:49 --> 1:13:57 sick there's a bug going around anytime someone is sick you have an infection you need a medication 597 1:13:59 --> 1:14:07 there's a virus going around and we have never questioned that we have never taken the time 598 1:14:08 --> 1:14:17 to actually delve into some of the deeper sciences to understand whether the reason people get sick 599 1:14:17 --> 1:14:27 is only related to an infectious agent and so there's a huge controversy in the world right now 600 1:14:28 --> 1:14:37 and it is volatile and it is very difficult to navigate because of its volatility and that issue 601 1:14:37 --> 1:14:47 is around viruses and I remember learning in medical school that viruses are inert that they're 602 1:14:47 --> 1:14:58 not real organisms that they have no ability to self-replicate and that all a virus is is 603 1:14:58 --> 1:15:09 is a group of genetic instructions DNA or RNA that in and of itself have no capacity to do anything 604 1:15:11 --> 1:15:18 unless these pieces of genetic materials were embedded inside a cellular mechanism 605 1:15:19 --> 1:15:24 either in a human a plant an animal or bacteria 606 1:15:26 --> 1:15:32 and so even from medical school 40 years ago and even before that when I studied science 607 1:15:33 --> 1:15:43 we were taught that viruses in and of themselves cannot be infectious because they can only replicate 608 1:15:43 --> 1:15:53 if they have a an in inside genetic host and so somehow we forgot that 609 1:15:54 --> 1:16:01 but then over the years as the idea of viruses was continuously thrown at us 610 1:16:03 --> 1:16:10 we started to realize that there is no such thing as an isolated virus 611 1:16:11 --> 1:16:19 that actually no one has ever seen a viral particle we have created a pictorial of a viral 612 1:16:19 --> 1:16:34 particle but we have never truly seen a virus or ever seen a virus in action and so when we take 613 1:16:35 --> 1:16:42 a step back and hear that you know we go what is that I mean I had a public discussion with Dr. 614 1:16:42 --> 1:16:51 McCullough about this whole idea of viruses not viruses and he looked at me on a panel and he 615 1:16:51 --> 1:17:00 said if you're right Larry the whole system of western medicine will collapse and sort of I left 616 1:17:01 --> 1:17:09 it there I didn't respond to him because in fact there are some brilliant scientists and medical 617 1:17:09 --> 1:17:19 doctors who are more and more showing that we've never seen a virus and if you tell me that we have 618 1:17:19 --> 1:17:26 because of the electron microscope I can paint a black and white dot on a black and white picture 619 1:17:26 --> 1:17:35 and tell you it's anything if you'll believe it because that's not evidence of a virus and so 620 1:17:35 --> 1:17:42 let's go back to what the medical school books say about viruses before we get to the fact that 621 1:17:42 --> 1:17:49 viruses don't exist let's go back to what we're told viruses cannot replicate themselves again 622 1:17:49 --> 1:17:55 there's no such thing but let's just stay with what we know what we think we know viruses can't 623 1:17:55 --> 1:18:01 replicate they need a host to do it they're a millionth of an inch long 624 1:18:03 --> 1:18:13 and we've never seen a virus enter or exit a cell we can't see it and therefore we haven't been 625 1:18:13 --> 1:18:24 able to even isolate it because it's so tiny and so if we take another step into this subject 626 1:18:25 --> 1:18:34 we realize that the human body contains genetic material in our chromosomes most of which is 627 1:18:34 --> 1:18:45 considered junk dna but in fact only one and a half percent of our dna codes for the physical 628 1:18:45 --> 1:18:54 body now if i'm to trust the human genome project they found that almost 50 percent of the material 629 1:18:54 --> 1:19:04 in there codes for what they call viral particles but that's not infectious those are pieces of 630 1:19:04 --> 1:19:14 genetic material that are inbred inborn part of our own genetic code that actually participates 631 1:19:14 --> 1:19:23 in cellular metabolism and then we realize that we have over 100 trillion bacteria lining our bodies 632 1:19:24 --> 1:19:33 and we know that inside bacteria are multiple multiple copies of what's considered or thought 633 1:19:33 --> 1:19:42 to be viral particles not infectious at all and then when we realize that the cells of the body 634 1:19:42 --> 1:19:50 except the red blood cells have thousands of mitochondria which were bacteria and those 635 1:19:50 --> 1:20:01 bacteria contain dna or rna of what's known to be viral particles we realize that even from 636 1:20:02 --> 1:20:10 the possibility that viral dna and rna does exist in our body we're infested 637 1:20:10 --> 1:20:16 we're never not exposed to genetic material that's non-human 638 1:20:18 --> 1:20:27 we're constantly circulating genetic material that is extricated from our genome that's extricated 639 1:20:27 --> 1:20:34 from the mitochondria and that's extricated from the bacteria that line our body and so if you put 640 1:20:35 --> 1:20:43 a nasal swab into your nose and you put a nasal swab into or a swab into the airway 641 1:20:44 --> 1:20:54 how do you know that the genetic material that you're classifying isn't part of your own cells 642 1:20:55 --> 1:21:01 how do you know that the genetic material that you're isolating isn't part of the bacteria that 643 1:21:01 --> 1:21:08 are exploding in the linings of your body how do you know that the genetic material that you're 644 1:21:08 --> 1:21:17 isolating isn't from something that you breathe in and how do you know that it's causing the 645 1:21:17 --> 1:21:27 condition that you have and so these are questions that even virologists are looking at because we 646 1:21:28 --> 1:21:40 know that what we've classified as a virus may not be what we think it is and so taking that 647 1:21:40 --> 1:21:53 for another fork in the road we exclude the possibility that anything else could be giving 648 1:21:53 --> 1:22:00 you the symptoms you're getting so we exclude air that you're breathing in that can make you sick 649 1:22:00 --> 1:22:07 we exclude food that we're eating that can make you sick we exclude injected material that we 650 1:22:07 --> 1:22:13 inject that can make you sick we exclude skin care products that you can be putting on your skin 651 1:22:13 --> 1:22:20 that make you sick we exclude electromagnetic radiation that you could be exposed to that make 652 1:22:20 --> 1:22:27 you sick we exclude nervous system stress that you could be exposed to that could all of these 653 1:22:27 --> 1:22:35 things create inflammation in your body we exclude poisons toxins and we even exclude the possibility 654 1:22:35 --> 1:22:43 that we were poisoned as the reason we could have gotten sick and that's why i said very early on 655 1:22:43 --> 1:22:52 we have not done the proper differential diagnosis when people get sick and the first 656 1:22:53 --> 1:23:02 set of people who are getting sick presented with dry cough headache hypertension 657 1:23:03 --> 1:23:15 difficulty breathing and when examined had low po2s low oxygen levels and normal carbon dioxide 658 1:23:15 --> 1:23:23 levels now i was an er an intensivist and i know a differential when you're hypoxic you must do a 659 1:23:24 --> 1:23:32 differential and the differential is hypoxia what's your pco2 what's your blood gas 660 1:23:34 --> 1:23:42 what's your acidosis or alkalosis and the very first set of patients including the continued 661 1:23:42 --> 1:23:50 set of patients were patients who had as a differential for hypoxia not a respiratory 662 1:23:50 --> 1:24:02 etiology but a blood etiology and so for those of us who are convinced pretty strongly 663 1:24:04 --> 1:24:13 that we were being poisoned with nanoparticle materials that would truly explain how the blood 664 1:24:13 --> 1:24:21 was no longer able to bind to oxygen including the possibility that electromagnetic waves 665 1:24:22 --> 1:24:30 were affecting the binding of oxygen to red blood cells and it's only later on that the lungs would 666 1:24:30 --> 1:24:38 be affected because of the hypoxia from the oxygen dislodging from the red blood cells 667 1:24:38 --> 1:24:48 the red blood cells and so we never did a differential diagnosis we myopically said oh 668 1:24:48 --> 1:24:57 it must be a virus without even understanding what a virus is and what a virus isn't or what 669 1:24:57 --> 1:25:07 a virus can do what a virus can't do and we extracted pieces of dna that were actually 670 1:25:07 --> 1:25:15 characterized from a computerized program that then gave us the genome of the virus 671 1:25:15 --> 1:25:24 so the genome of the virus was made known because of a computerized estimation of what the infectious 672 1:25:24 --> 1:25:33 agent is now all you're getting is a strand of genetic material that doesn't tell you 673 1:25:34 --> 1:25:45 that it's infectious and in fact even the pcr even the pcr doesn't tell you that you have a virus 674 1:25:46 --> 1:25:53 all it tells you is that you've amplified the presence of genetic material but you can't 675 1:25:53 --> 1:25:59 attribute that to a foreign matter because you have genetic material that you're extricating from 676 1:25:59 --> 1:26:06 your cells and you have genetic material that you're extricating from microorganisms that are 677 1:26:06 --> 1:26:18 lining your body and so we can never know by doing a swab of a surface lining where that genetic 678 1:26:18 --> 1:26:25 material is coming from because genetic material comes out of our cells from our genome comes out 679 1:26:25 --> 1:26:29 our cells from our mitochondria comes out of the bacteria that are lining our body 680 1:26:30 --> 1:26:36 and the assumption has always been and will always be until we shift this consciousness 681 1:26:37 --> 1:26:44 that you don't get sick unless some organism gets into your body when in fact the human body 682 1:26:45 --> 1:26:51 is so filled with genetic materials that we have never ever identified 683 1:26:55 --> 1:26:57 well I must thank you for that 684 1:27:00 --> 1:27:06 one lengthy lengthy thorough but wonderful answer which I'm indeed grateful so it seems to me that 685 1:27:06 --> 1:27:12 what you're saying then um without belaboring the point is that first of all the nasal swabs 686 1:27:12 --> 1:27:19 are a waste of time and secondly what is it we're not sure what is injected into people and why what 687 1:27:19 --> 1:27:24 if any benefit there is or whether the opportunity was just taken to poison people the injections 688 1:27:25 --> 1:27:32 I think you said it really really well doctor okay well I'm sorry 689 1:27:34 --> 1:27:42 you still adopt yeah yeah he's both yeah yeah no I was I was kind of um yes 690 1:27:45 --> 1:27:51 he understands things we don't well that's why I went into the medical because I knew he was a 691 1:27:51 --> 1:27:57 doctor so I went a little advanced for those of you that's that's very good for people to think 692 1:27:57 --> 1:28:05 about that 17 minute monologue larry and everybody please you know go back that was at the at the 693 1:28:05 --> 1:28:11 820 or well anyway at the 17 minutes larry is good winston are we done with you before we get to 694 1:28:11 --> 1:28:17 jeremy you you muted winston 695 1:28:17 --> 1:28:26 winston you muted I think we're done okay yeah yeah so I just want to say I thoroughly enjoyed 696 1:28:26 --> 1:28:31 what you said and appreciated your discourse your monologue thank you very much appreciate it 697 1:28:32 --> 1:28:40 thank you winston jeremy jeremy the forbes yes sir thank you charles um first I'd like to thank you 698 1:28:40 --> 1:28:47 dr polewski for certainly a fascinating and insightful presentation particularly as it 699 1:28:47 --> 1:28:55 regards germ theory versus terrain which I guess is what it was um I have more of a comment 700 1:28:56 --> 1:29:03 about the discussion of how to get through to people uh have some thoughts on that um 701 1:29:04 --> 1:29:12 but first let me say uh I particularly agree with your comments about uh the futility of trying to 702 1:29:12 --> 1:29:20 change institutions I think the solution just as you suggested is to stop patronizing them whether 703 1:29:20 --> 1:29:26 they're particularly the schools you clearly cannot send your kids to these institutions that 704 1:29:26 --> 1:29:36 are filling kids heads with mush and worse um so going back to the uh how to get through to people 705 1:29:37 --> 1:29:45 I think um it has to be kept simple obviously and the message that comes out at us 706 1:29:46 --> 1:29:53 uh machine gun like is safe and effective I really believe that it's very difficult 707 1:29:53 --> 1:29:58 to challenge the safe side of things not from our point of view because we have all the evidence 708 1:29:58 --> 1:30:03 on our side but when it comes to addressing a lay person who has no idea about medicine 709 1:30:04 --> 1:30:10 convincing him that the vaccine that he's taking is not safe and may kill him is it 710 1:30:11 --> 1:30:18 well that's met with rejection pretty quickly on the other hand the effective side can be challenged 711 1:30:18 --> 1:30:27 quite simply uh going back you know going back to the authority what do the authorities say to us 712 1:30:27 --> 1:30:35 the authorities will never admit uh to the lack of safety however they have recently admitted 713 1:30:36 --> 1:30:42 that these vaccines do not protect you from becoming infected with covid nor do they prevent 714 1:30:42 --> 1:30:51 you from transmitting it to others should you have coded whatever that is so to me that begs 715 1:30:51 --> 1:30:58 the question even in the lay person as to well then why am I getting vaccinated right and I think 716 1:30:58 --> 1:31:08 if you can hit them with that logic um just those two things alone the fact that you are not protected 717 1:31:09 --> 1:31:14 and you're not protecting your family or your friends or your neighbors should you get coded 718 1:31:15 --> 1:31:22 it should end the argument right there why then are you submitting to this coercive instruction 719 1:31:22 --> 1:31:28 that you need to be jabbed constantly your thoughts please so thank you thank you for 720 1:31:28 --> 1:31:35 bringing that up because it it opens up the door for many possible conversations so I'll address 721 1:31:35 --> 1:31:41 it from a couple one is um I would never use the language you're using because to me it's not a 722 1:31:41 --> 1:31:49 vaccine so I'm not so so I would never approach it that way but I understand using that approach 723 1:31:50 --> 1:31:56 the second thing is have you ever taken a north pole of a magnet and then another north pole of 724 1:31:56 --> 1:32:04 a magnet and tried to bring them together yes because that way to me is two north poles of 725 1:32:04 --> 1:32:10 magnets coming together because you're trying to take information 726 1:32:13 --> 1:32:20 and bringing it to other information and to me it's butting heads it's two north poles of magnets 727 1:32:21 --> 1:32:28 because remember how do people know things like that person you're speaking to doesn't know his 728 1:32:28 --> 1:32:35 or her information because he or she has researched it or experienced it he or she knows it because 729 1:32:35 --> 1:32:43 they've been told and now someone else comes along and tells them something else and so you're 730 1:32:43 --> 1:32:49 bringing north pole with north pole well I don't see it that way because I think they're more likely 731 1:32:49 --> 1:32:57 to be exposed to the recent information from Walensky and company even on mainstream media 732 1:32:57 --> 1:33:04 they have admitted that it doesn't stop transmission and they've heard that message I agree with you 733 1:33:05 --> 1:33:13 but in my experience I will tell you that bringing more information to someone who's already accepted 734 1:33:13 --> 1:33:21 information from someone else isn't as effective so what I find effective is a different approach 735 1:33:21 --> 1:33:27 so sort of how do you bring a south pole of a magnet to their north pole of a magnet and so 736 1:33:28 --> 1:33:35 my approach has been the following if you say to me well I believe it's safe 737 1:33:36 --> 1:33:44 and I go and I say to you well I don't believe it's safe we have a problem 738 1:33:45 --> 1:33:52 if you come to me and say you know I was told it's safe and I say to you really how do you know that 739 1:33:54 --> 1:34:00 you've started a very different conversation because you have welcomed that other person 740 1:34:00 --> 1:34:08 that other person into your heart right you have actually allowed that other person to show his or 741 1:34:08 --> 1:34:15 her real knowledge base and what you start to realize very gently and compassionately 742 1:34:15 --> 1:34:23 is it's a house of cards and so once you do see that you then say to them huh well you know 743 1:34:23 --> 1:34:31 that's really interesting I just want you to know that in my research and in my experience I found 744 1:34:31 --> 1:34:39 this and so you're not coming to them with information you're coming to them with your 745 1:34:39 --> 1:34:46 heart and you're actually welcoming their head their being to drop from their head 746 1:34:47 --> 1:34:54 into their heart so they can actually lean in and say huh because are you going to say 747 1:34:55 --> 1:35:02 well your research and your experience is wrong you can or are you going to say huh how come you 748 1:35:02 --> 1:35:11 found something so different than what I found and you just opening the possibility of a what I feel 749 1:35:11 --> 1:35:18 is a more relational dialogue than a head-to-head dialogue which in my experience 750 1:35:18 --> 1:35:25 doesn't work it just again because I've been teaching parents for over two decades the 751 1:35:26 --> 1:35:35 dangers of shots and I have found that if I tell them information that's different from their 752 1:35:35 --> 1:35:41 information I get very little but if I share with them hey you know I just want to let you know 753 1:35:41 --> 1:35:48 this is what I've researched this is what I've seen this is how I understand it what do you think 754 1:35:50 --> 1:35:56 they're more likely to lean in because it's not attacking because when you when you bring 755 1:35:56 --> 1:36:04 information to somebody whose house of cards is only known to you and they realize that they're 756 1:36:04 --> 1:36:11 knowing things only because they listen to someone outside of them it doesn't work it just doesn't 757 1:36:11 --> 1:36:20 work it crashes because no matter how much logic you bring I have found it's less effective that 758 1:36:20 --> 1:36:27 doesn't mean you won't be able to plant a seed and get somewhere but I have found in the trials and 759 1:36:27 --> 1:36:35 tribulations of trying to reach people and failing and insulting people and going at it head to head 760 1:36:35 --> 1:36:41 because you're smart now I'm smart now you're smart now I'm smart it hasn't been as effective 761 1:36:42 --> 1:36:48 all I'm doing is sharing with you another way that I do it that I have found really works 762 1:36:48 --> 1:36:57 different than just bringing information I try to welcome them in if someone says Dr. Larry you're 763 1:36:57 --> 1:37:07 killing kids oh really can you explain to me how that's true for you that's a very different 764 1:37:07 --> 1:37:15 response then no I'm not you don't know what you're talking about so we've done the information 765 1:37:15 --> 1:37:20 done the information information and it's failed because otherwise we would have succeeded already 766 1:37:23 --> 1:37:29 very good very good Jeremy great great stuff great conversation and all of us learn 767 1:37:29 --> 1:37:35 we've had many conversations here Larry about how do we get how do we get through and that's part 768 1:37:35 --> 1:37:40 of what I said at the start on the question if someone says Jeremy I'm offended by what you said 769 1:37:40 --> 1:37:46 and one of the nine responses is that's interesting how do you mean and just shut up 770 1:37:47 --> 1:37:51 and most people who say they're offended their mouths will go like this and nothing will come 771 1:37:51 --> 1:37:56 out because they they're so used to people apologizing and genuinely say how do you mean 772 1:37:57 --> 1:38:05 Jeremy I was never brought up to understand how to resolve conflict conflict resolution was not a part 773 1:38:05 --> 1:38:14 of my growth as a kid but it had to become part of my growth as an adult so I had to learn you know 774 1:38:14 --> 1:38:21 how do I hear somebody who has a differing opinion than I do if I say you're wrong or you don't know 775 1:38:21 --> 1:38:28 what you're talking about I lose and I was good at that I was really good at that but if I say 776 1:38:29 --> 1:38:33 you know what I just want to let you know that this is my experience of what you did this is my 777 1:38:33 --> 1:38:40 experience of what you said this is how I feel in response to what you are doing it allows for a 778 1:38:40 --> 1:38:49 greater leaning in than if I said you made me mad which is never true you don't make me mad I chose 779 1:38:49 --> 1:38:57 to react in a mad way in response to what you did or said and these are things that none of us most 780 1:38:57 --> 1:39:03 of us don't grow up with but we think that if we can drive home more information we're going to 781 1:39:03 --> 1:39:13 win that hasn't worked so I don't disagree with you particularly with that comment I was looking 782 1:39:13 --> 1:39:20 for things that people when it comes to the messaging of safe and effective how to break 783 1:39:20 --> 1:39:26 that down you're not going to do it as you say with information concerning safety even though 784 1:39:26 --> 1:39:32 it's all around them they still won't pay attention to it but the message that these vaccines 785 1:39:33 --> 1:39:39 don't protect you against transmission or getting COVID-19 yourself those are pretty simple and easy 786 1:39:39 --> 1:39:45 to understand and they're being voiced and admitted to by their own authorities so-called 787 1:39:45 --> 1:39:54 authorities maybe as a compromise between what your your views and mine are or maybe to ask people 788 1:39:54 --> 1:40:00 to ask their doctors ask your doctor next time you see him and he's asking you to get the next 789 1:40:00 --> 1:40:10 booster doctor is this going to protect me from getting COVID-19 or transmitting it to my friends 790 1:40:11 --> 1:40:19 so so I appreciate that because what I feel you're suggesting is asking the person to go back into the 791 1:40:19 --> 1:40:25 lion's den no just next time they're in no that's the lion's den because the doctor is not going to 792 1:40:25 --> 1:40:30 say it's not safe or effective they're not going to open he's going to be out of line 793 1:40:31 --> 1:40:40 with mainstream media comments but that's that's the that's the thing we've been seeing for decades 794 1:40:40 --> 1:40:48 the doctor has been repeating the party line but if someone said to me well I feel that that my 795 1:40:48 --> 1:40:57 doctor said the the shot is safe again I would open with tell me what that means I'm curious 796 1:40:57 --> 1:41:05 about your understanding of safety and then when the opening is there I say well I just want to 797 1:41:05 --> 1:41:13 let you know that I have a different approach to it and I actually have found in my research that 798 1:41:13 --> 1:41:19 it's not safe all right we gotta we gotta move we're gonna move on we're gonna run out of time 799 1:41:19 --> 1:41:25 but excellent point yes please I have 10 minutes because I gotta go somewhere okay this will be 800 1:41:25 --> 1:41:33 quick good all right Alex Alex Craner Shasta and then Stephen three more Alex Shasta and Stephen 801 1:41:33 --> 1:41:34 thank you Jeremy 802 1:41:38 --> 1:41:39 Alex you you muted 803 1:41:44 --> 1:41:50 you're talking to me no okay apologies there he is I I I couldn't see my unmute button 804 1:41:51 --> 1:41:57 Dr. Polerski thank you for the for the wonderful presentation I do have an important question for 805 1:41:57 --> 1:42:04 you but before I wanted to share something with you and the group relevant to the origin and causes 806 1:42:04 --> 1:42:10 of of the pandemic which I you know like I picked up in the in the early days of the pandemic 807 1:42:11 --> 1:42:16 and I think you might find find it of interest namely I'll give you two data points 808 1:42:17 --> 1:42:25 first data point I listened to to an interview with Dr. Alek Racic he's a he's a Serbian doctor 809 1:42:25 --> 1:42:33 he's a fairly high caliber in Serbia manager of of one of the hospitals president of the you know 810 1:42:34 --> 1:42:40 association of doctor blah blah whatever and he was saying that you know I've been I've been 811 1:42:40 --> 1:42:46 seeing patients coming into this hospital during the respiratory infection seasons for 30 years 812 1:42:47 --> 1:42:53 I know what to expect I've seen so many and he said that when the when the pandemic started 813 1:42:53 --> 1:42:58 it was completely different and said that these people would come in with the with the symptoms 814 1:42:58 --> 1:43:04 that their condition would deteriorate very rapidly and that he has never seen anything 815 1:43:04 --> 1:43:10 of the sort in his entire career and he said when he looked at the at the at the x-rays of the 816 1:43:10 --> 1:43:18 people's lungs he said like there is no way that the coronavirus can do this to people's lungs 817 1:43:18 --> 1:43:27 but they were forbidden from doing any autopsies and then he said some of my colleagues in Germany 818 1:43:27 --> 1:43:35 actually do autopsies and they found not only where there was the lung severely damaged 819 1:43:38 --> 1:43:48 there is no virus known to man at all for women that can do this this simply isn't known to medicine 820 1:43:48 --> 1:43:54 and he said this is this is the interesting part that I found he said the only pathogen that I know 821 1:43:54 --> 1:44:04 of that can do this kind of damage to human tissue is sarin gas second data point I was 822 1:44:05 --> 1:44:13 I randomly was listening to a radio program in Croatia where a doctor a retired doctor an old 823 1:44:13 --> 1:44:22 lady called in and she explained her experience at one of the two hospitals in oh sorry I'm 824 1:44:22 --> 1:44:31 laughing at this tessalina's comment so she said that she was admitted to a hospital in zagreb with 825 1:44:31 --> 1:44:38 covid symptoms now two hospitals in zagreb one had mortality rate for people admitted with covid 826 1:44:38 --> 1:44:47 symptoms of 80 80 one of them had a 15 okay she was admitted to the one with 80 and she was a 827 1:44:47 --> 1:44:55 retired physician so she knew a little bit about how things went she was admitted in the hospital 828 1:44:55 --> 1:45:03 they took her straight to the covid department where only certain doctors and certain nurses had 829 1:45:03 --> 1:45:08 access but it was with a key and she said these doctors didn't know what they were doing she said 830 1:45:08 --> 1:45:15 it was very suspicious they didn't seem to really be doctors or nurses and she said they tried to 831 1:45:15 --> 1:45:22 sedate me and put me on a ventilator and she's a doctor so she said look I do not have hypoxia 832 1:45:22 --> 1:45:27 it's wrong for you to put me on a ventilator don't put me on a ventilator and then a doctor and two 833 1:45:27 --> 1:45:35 nurses tried to forcibly put her on a ventilator so there was a struggle and she managed to tear 834 1:45:35 --> 1:45:41 herself away and escape onto the balcony and call for help thankfully her son was underneath in the 835 1:45:41 --> 1:45:48 parking lot in the beneath the hospital and he was able to come and rescue her or take her out 836 1:45:48 --> 1:45:53 of the hospital well here's an interesting part that she said she said that while as they were 837 1:45:53 --> 1:46:02 struggling that this oxygen went on her face and that it was stinky oxygen and she said that where 838 1:46:02 --> 1:46:10 it went on her skin it burned her skin okay so that's the two uh so i don't know could it could 839 1:46:10 --> 1:46:17 there have been tampering with oxygen tanks to produce the panic and the mortality statistics 840 1:46:17 --> 1:46:22 and so on also very unusual that one hospital would have 80 percent mortality and one of them 841 1:46:22 --> 1:46:29 15 percent mortality obviously then a virus was a virus wouldn't have been the only variable there's 842 1:46:29 --> 1:46:34 something else going on but nobody's you know nobody's talking about this particular part 843 1:46:34 --> 1:46:43 or investigating it uh alex thank you that that speaks as examples of what many many doctors 844 1:46:43 --> 1:46:52 across the world have been experiencing i put a link in the chat of a doctor from israel 845 1:46:53 --> 1:47:00 who had an experience similar to what you're describing and if anyone there are two parts 846 1:47:00 --> 1:47:08 and if anyone is interested uh please get it um and and listen to it um uh it's very very important 847 1:47:10 --> 1:47:15 there was i mean this is the hardest thing i'm going to say there was a concerted effort to 848 1:47:15 --> 1:47:26 kill people that's the hardest thing for humans to fathom but we have been experiencing that for 849 1:47:27 --> 1:47:39 centuries this is not new the desire to kill people lower the population has been a desire 850 1:47:39 --> 1:47:50 for centuries there are people who are involved in this pandemic whose family lineages have been 851 1:47:50 --> 1:48:00 doing this for centuries this is the culmination of an attempt so when you see medical doctors 852 1:48:01 --> 1:48:09 who were putting people on ventilators because they knew that if they put people on ventilators 853 1:48:09 --> 1:48:18 they were more likely to die and the doctors were ignoring clinical applications of what they were 854 1:48:18 --> 1:48:25 seeing and instead following protocols and algorithms like you're describing people died 855 1:48:26 --> 1:48:35 and so there are many people who were in the hospital were labeled with covid who were put 856 1:48:35 --> 1:48:42 on ventilators because they were labeled as covid and given medications that sedated them 857 1:48:43 --> 1:48:54 and that put them into renal failure kidney failure and killed them and that is so difficult 858 1:48:54 --> 1:49:01 for humans to understand that this has been going on in hospitals all over the world why 859 1:49:02 --> 1:49:08 because the numbers of people dying from this pandemic were insufficient 860 1:49:08 --> 1:49:15 whatever they were poisoning us with didn't work fast enough it didn't kill us fast enough 861 1:49:16 --> 1:49:25 so they were now inappropriately making diagnoses for people with covid who weren't suffering covid 862 1:49:25 --> 1:49:32 symptoms and putting them on ventilators and leaving them isolated for days and there are 863 1:49:33 --> 1:49:39 and there are reports if you watch the link that i just showed you there were reports where doctors 864 1:49:39 --> 1:49:46 and nurses would leave patients for hours in certain areas of the hospital without attending to them 865 1:49:46 --> 1:49:48 them. 866 1:49:49 --> 1:50:04 So there was a top-down agenda to reduce populations and the monies that hospitals were given 867 1:50:05 --> 1:50:12 for incentives for diagnosing people with covid and for putting people on ventilators 868 1:50:13 --> 1:50:23 was astronomical and doctors received bonuses so hospitals received bonuses and doctors received 869 1:50:23 --> 1:50:34 bonuses. I mean this is this is as I mean dark as you can go we were not as a medical profession 870 1:50:34 --> 1:50:43 following clinical courses we weren't okay the patient has this then this is the appropriate 871 1:50:43 --> 1:50:51 decision tree to treat this no doctors had to follow a protocol that they were given by the 872 1:50:51 --> 1:50:56 hospital to take care of that patient even if it was unwarranted. 873 1:50:57 --> 1:51:04 Beautiful, come on we gotta wait Larry you gotta go we got two more we got Shasta and then Stephen 874 1:51:04 --> 1:51:09 there's one more I gotta go I gotta go I gotta go I know I know but Shasta has to ask you one question 875 1:51:09 --> 1:51:15 Alex brilliant thank you thanks Alex I just wanted to say thank you I really appreciate 876 1:51:15 --> 1:51:25 um all of you doctors inquiring into differential diagnosis and um and using your discernment to 877 1:51:27 --> 1:51:32 make your medicine safe and I really appreciate what you all are doing thank you very much I'm 878 1:51:32 --> 1:51:37 gonna head over I'm gonna hand it over to Stephen well done Shasta well said Shasta Alex 879 1:51:40 --> 1:51:45 I think what Alex said is very important to consider so Alex if you could stay on and we can 880 1:51:45 --> 1:51:52 have a talk about that when unfortunately Larry has to leave so um which is a pity because uh you 881 1:51:53 --> 1:52:00 well I just wanted to think can someone on the call research um wasn't there an attack on the 882 1:52:00 --> 1:52:06 London underground a sarin attack do you remember does anybody remember that yes the Tokyo Tokyo I 883 1:52:06 --> 1:52:13 think no oh Tokyo yes we need to yeah so we need to research that what on earth was printed at the 884 1:52:13 --> 1:52:18 time and afterwards was there an investigation and if there was an investigation was a report 885 1:52:18 --> 1:52:25 produced by the Japanese government I don't know we need to find out because what so Alex are you 886 1:52:25 --> 1:52:31 suggesting that those two pieces of data as you put it were connected but anyway let me just uh so 887 1:52:32 --> 1:52:38 Larry do you want to go you've got to go over here yeah I do okay so thank you very much for coming 888 1:52:38 --> 1:52:46 on we're very grateful to you and thank you very insightful and um I hope we can work together um 889 1:52:47 --> 1:52:52 so I oh I haven't got your email address I've got your assistant's email address I think but 890 1:52:52 --> 1:52:59 that's fine that's good for now all right yes very good okay so so I just want to say um thank you 891 1:53:00 --> 1:53:07 um I tend to live in a bubble in my own little world and uh to offer these perspectives 892 1:53:08 --> 1:53:14 in a safe space is rare in the world in which we live today and I just want to thank you for holding 893 1:53:14 --> 1:53:23 the space uh I'm happy if you disagree um it's all right uh I hope I didn't offend anybody 894 1:53:23 --> 1:53:33 but I don't think I hope you did uh you know and if I did you know I did um but I I appreciate an 895 1:53:33 --> 1:53:44 opportunity on such a large scale to to air some things that may be new to people or maybe you know 896 1:53:44 --> 1:53:49 confirmation to people or whatever so they recognize that I think you have wonderful 897 1:53:49 --> 1:53:56 insights which when so very few people can articulate such insights never mind notice them 898 1:53:56 --> 1:54:02 um and when but when they do hear them they recognize them and so I think that's the power 899 1:54:02 --> 1:54:08 of what you're saying so maybe so hopefully um people around the world will notice you uh 900 1:54:08 --> 1:54:11 Larry as a result of you coming on and helping us 901 1:54:12 --> 1:54:18 thank you guys I appreciate it stay well stay well thank you Larry bye 902 1:54:21 --> 1:54:28 okay so so question no well this this is all important stuff and we'll go on the recording 903 1:54:28 --> 1:54:36 let's go back to Alex Stephen and just to stay there so this is this question Alex remember 904 1:54:36 --> 1:54:42 Charles is the is the writer who wrote the brilliant book which ended up getting banned 905 1:54:42 --> 1:54:50 not once but twice I remember who Alex is yeah worry about that but actually actually 906 1:54:50 --> 1:54:54 Stephen that's a good point I might remember but many in the audience won't so Alex give us a bit 907 1:54:54 --> 1:55:02 of background on your book because Alex has as you've presented to us as well Alex it was a great 908 1:55:02 --> 1:55:08 story yes thank you well no I what I was presenting here was a story about Theranos which 909 1:55:08 --> 1:55:15 which is not part of my book my my book was called Grand Deception that's one of the three books I 910 1:55:15 --> 1:55:23 published all of them got cancelled anyway but the one that got banned first was um by the by the 911 1:55:23 --> 1:55:29 by the intervention of one of the advisors to John Kerry in the US State Department and the book is 912 1:55:29 --> 1:55:37 about it's a geopolitical treaties about the the relationship between Russia and the western world 913 1:55:37 --> 1:55:42 I published it in 2017 and I kind of predicted that there would be war between the two sides 914 1:55:43 --> 1:55:51 and my whole point was to try to unmask the you know the the group of the the the occult 915 1:55:51 --> 1:55:58 oligarchy in the west is dragging us into into World War Three so uh that's that's the that's 916 1:55:58 --> 1:56:04 the banned book and then later everything else got cancelled as well so with the benefits of um 917 1:56:05 --> 1:56:11 the hindsight of what's happened in the last few months you know the Ukraine War what do you think 918 1:56:11 --> 1:56:20 is the reason for this war which doesn't seem to have you know I can see why Putin is feels 919 1:56:20 --> 1:56:27 threatened and why he feels he has no alternative but do you think that so the but having said that 920 1:56:27 --> 1:56:36 um the the west seems to be in a cult behind Ukraine and I just don't and it's the idea to 921 1:56:36 --> 1:56:45 confuse people on every front so the food crisis the energy crisis the uh cost of living crisis 922 1:56:45 --> 1:56:51 ridiculous name um which the government don't seem to have any responsibility to solve 923 1:56:52 --> 1:56:58 for the first time ever I just wonder Alex you're a great geopolitical analyst what do you think 924 1:56:58 --> 1:57:03 is going on with all these different agendas nothing makes sense any longer is that the idea 925 1:57:03 --> 1:57:11 to destabilize us by arbitrariness well I think there's all kinds of everything mixed in there but 926 1:57:11 --> 1:57:17 the the the underlying cause of the conflict in Ukraine is not so complicated to understand 927 1:57:17 --> 1:57:25 first of all uh you know there's there's the empire which is you know the it's a reincarnation 928 1:57:25 --> 1:57:35 of the British Empire which has you know just kind of shifted its its its um balance of power 929 1:57:35 --> 1:57:41 to the United States the empires for more than 200 years now the empire's overarching 930 1:57:41 --> 1:57:47 imperative has been to maintain uh hegemony over the Eurasian landmass 931 1:57:49 --> 1:57:56 and the reason is simple that's where most of the resources are uh 70 percent of the earth's 932 1:57:57 --> 1:58:05 energy reserves uh more than 70 percent of the global GDP two-thirds of the world population 933 1:58:05 --> 1:58:15 and so on and so forth now uh the uh oh thank you Abby um the the neither the neither Great Britain 934 1:58:16 --> 1:58:25 nor the United States nor NATO have the military might to police and control this all militarily 935 1:58:26 --> 1:58:34 so the recipe for the last 200 years has been divide and conquer so you always wanted to make 936 1:58:34 --> 1:58:43 sure to divide uh the the geography into small weak political entities that are constantly 937 1:58:44 --> 1:58:52 on the verge of conflict and then you use your own intelligence service services and secret diplomacy 938 1:58:53 --> 1:58:59 to pit them one against the other to fund them when they want to go to war to arm them 939 1:59:00 --> 1:59:08 and to make sure that they're that they're dependent on you and that um nobody emerges 940 1:59:09 --> 1:59:18 strong enough to be your rival for dominance over this landmass and so this this strategy has been 941 1:59:18 --> 1:59:27 explicitly formulated already uh at the beginning of the 20th century by um by Halford Mackinder 942 1:59:28 --> 1:59:35 but it's been then reformulated and restated practically verbatim by people like Zbigniew 943 1:59:35 --> 1:59:45 Brzezinski who was you know Henry Kissinger's protege and most recently by uh by undersecretary 944 1:59:45 --> 1:59:53 of in the state department named Wes Mitchell and basically he said it explicitly that the 945 1:59:53 --> 1:59:59 administrations and this is Trump administration the administration top priority was to maintain 946 1:59:59 --> 2:00:07 uh US dominance over the Eurasian landmass and to prevent a rival from emerging especially to prevent 947 2:00:08 --> 2:00:17 two or more rivals who could together dislodge the empire from the Eurasian landmass. This was 948 2:00:17 --> 2:00:23 this was stated in 2018 and this is exactly what has happened. Now the purpose of the war in Ukraine 949 2:00:24 --> 2:00:31 was to try to cut Russia down to size namely you know Russia has emerged as a as a strong power 950 2:00:31 --> 2:00:37 on the on the continent that can say no they can they can you know resist the dictate of the empire 951 2:00:37 --> 2:00:46 and so Ukraine was used to drag Russia into a conflict hoping that it would become you know 952 2:00:46 --> 2:00:55 another Afghanistan a quagmire where Russia would end up weakened and then eventually they were able 953 2:00:55 --> 2:01:02 to destabilize it and regime change it and ultimately to divide it into five or more 954 2:01:02 --> 2:01:10 smaller political entities. So that's the that's why the west has been so consistently 955 2:01:12 --> 2:01:17 escalating rather than de-escalating and then another dimension to the whole thing is that 956 2:01:17 --> 2:01:24 they thought that they would crush Russia with economic sanctions but that didn't happen except 957 2:01:24 --> 2:01:32 it boomeranged and now it has created a devastating crisis in the west energy crisis food crisis and so 958 2:01:32 --> 2:01:40 forth and they are actually making it worse deliberately. I can't imagine why because if you 959 2:01:40 --> 2:01:49 try to deconstruct their strategies even at them being sinister if you try to deconstruct them to 960 2:01:49 --> 2:01:58 some logical end they make sense in a unipolar world you know going for renewable energy makes 961 2:01:58 --> 2:02:07 sense if the whole world has to adopt it going for vaccine certificates makes sense if the whole 962 2:02:07 --> 2:02:15 world adopts it not if one block is completely on a different standard and uses fossil fuels and has 963 2:02:15 --> 2:02:21 a burgeoning steel production and so forth then they just have an advantage but the fact that 964 2:02:21 --> 2:02:25 they're persisting and continuing with these with these same plans and same agendas that they 965 2:02:25 --> 2:02:36 formulated 20 or 30 years ago is just I think they're delusional they can't accept that their 966 2:02:36 --> 2:02:43 gambit has failed and so you know ultimately what always happens in these situations is that the 967 2:02:43 --> 2:02:53 small man pays the price or woman. And who is the small man Ukraine? Oh no all of us all of us. 968 2:02:53 --> 2:02:57 Right okay well you know there's going to be there's inflation there's going to be more inflation 969 2:02:58 --> 2:03:07 but arguably Russia has become stronger because what happened hasn't it? Yes yes absolutely. 970 2:03:07 --> 2:03:16 So not only did they fail but they they doubly failed. Yes they doubly failed and not only 971 2:03:16 --> 2:03:23 because Russia has become stronger but because you know China understands that they're next 972 2:03:23 --> 2:03:28 and you know in the same way that the the western powers have been able to 973 2:03:29 --> 2:03:37 carve Ukraine away from Russia and turn it into an enemy and then make Ukrainian military might 974 2:03:38 --> 2:03:44 the bludgeon with which to strike at Russia they if they if they manage to defeat Russia and take 975 2:03:44 --> 2:03:51 it over they could do the same with Russia against China. Sure. You know they could turn Russia's 976 2:03:51 --> 2:03:59 military might against China so it is absolutely essential for China to have Russia's back and to 977 2:03:59 --> 2:04:05 see through the see Russia through the victory and so now they've achieved not only strengthening 978 2:04:05 --> 2:04:14 Russia but creating a really existential alliance between these two powers. I see and so there was 979 2:04:14 --> 2:04:21 a time Alex when you spoke to us I think that you weren't sure where China was in this but now 980 2:04:21 --> 2:04:29 you're saying that China has realized they need to get with Russia is that right? We we weren't 981 2:04:29 --> 2:04:35 you weren't sure last time we spoke or you spoke? No I think I was referring to an earlier time 982 2:04:35 --> 2:04:40 when I where I wasn't you know because you know one thing that empires always do and I 983 2:04:40 --> 2:04:46 I'd like to just define the empire because you know like the way we study history almost 984 2:04:46 --> 2:04:52 invariably the empires are conflated with nations you know like we had British Empire and American 985 2:04:52 --> 2:04:58 Empire and Spanish Empire and French Empire and Dutch Empire and so forth but the the empires 986 2:04:58 --> 2:05:05 are not national by their nature you're always looking at at an oligarchy at a at a at a network 987 2:05:05 --> 2:05:12 of vested interests that has to use the nation for its political and for its military muscle 988 2:05:13 --> 2:05:18 but the empire is defined by the oligarchy that benefits the most from it and it's never the 989 2:05:18 --> 2:05:24 people people always end up disenfranchised and impoverished at the end of it so the empire needs 990 2:05:24 --> 2:05:32 the host and once it exhausts the host it switches the way the same way that when they exhausted Great 991 2:05:32 --> 2:05:38 Britain they just simply switched to the United States co-opted its you know military political 992 2:05:38 --> 2:05:47 economic power to continue building the empire and they planned to move next to China and if you look 993 2:05:47 --> 2:05:54 at the statements by you know Brzezinski and Kissinger and Soros they fully expected that 994 2:05:55 --> 2:06:04 their next global cup and I until until a few years ago I didn't quite understand whether China 995 2:06:04 --> 2:06:11 actually accepted this role and was going to be their next global cup or if China was playing them 996 2:06:11 --> 2:06:17 and now I'm certain that China was playing them and that they drew them in but not to serve them 997 2:06:17 --> 2:06:27 but in order to behead them. Alex, people are asking for your books. Tom Rodman has put a link 998 2:06:27 --> 2:06:31 in there for The Grand Deception. How do people get hold of your writings? 999 2:06:33 --> 2:06:41 My book Grand Deception is available on pages of Red Pill Press but I'm for people who don't mind 1000 2:06:41 --> 2:06:49 reading in PDF. I'm very happy to share the PDF free of charge so I don't know how I could 1001 2:06:50 --> 2:06:57 transmit them. You can send it to me and I can put it there or else you can put it in the chat now 1002 2:06:57 --> 2:07:01 but no you're on your phone you can't do it if you send it to me we'll put it on the chat for 1003 2:07:01 --> 2:07:08 our next meeting. Okay yeah yeah yeah with pleasure. Alex, can you update us on what's happening in the 1004 2:07:08 --> 2:07:16 financial world because you are a former hedge fund manager I think you told me. Yes yes correct. 1005 2:07:16 --> 2:07:23 You see what people who don't know the financial world don't realize that who yes they don't realize 1006 2:07:23 --> 2:07:30 that you have charge of a lot of money as a hedge fund manager and you need to make good decisions 1007 2:07:30 --> 2:07:38 because you have the possibility to lose a lot of money for those people who trust you to and that 1008 2:07:38 --> 2:07:43 means you have to do a lot of research you have to dig down and I just wonder how things are going 1009 2:07:43 --> 2:07:49 and what do you think about the power of the United States has that declined in your view 1010 2:07:50 --> 2:07:58 you know through these injections and the infiltration of how should I say treasonous 1011 2:07:59 --> 2:08:06 types in the United States government and in the military do you think that the the power of the 1012 2:08:06 --> 2:08:12 United States has declined and yeah so the financial world and the United States military 1013 2:08:12 --> 2:08:22 power and will to win which it did exist before but it seems to dissipated yes so 1014 2:08:24 --> 2:08:29 the United States power has definitely is definitely in decline and it's in terminal 1015 2:08:29 --> 2:08:34 decline but I don't know how long it might take but these things never happen overnight 1016 2:08:37 --> 2:08:45 and is that a lack of will or is it you know so what what what was that why why it's 1017 2:08:46 --> 2:08:51 if you deconstruct it it always leads to the fact that we have a fraudulent monetary system it's a 1018 2:08:51 --> 2:08:58 Ponzi scheme and this Ponzi scheme is stable only for for as long as it grows as soon as it stopped 1019 2:08:58 --> 2:09:02 growing there's a mathematical certainty that you're going to have a certain 1020 2:09:03 --> 2:09:08 percentage of participants in the game who are going to go be going bankrupt and now what you 1021 2:09:08 --> 2:09:16 see for example in in Europe is that bankruptcies are at the highest levels on record and this is 1022 2:09:16 --> 2:09:21 this is all because they're trying to you know like they're trying to prevent inflation from 1023 2:09:21 --> 2:09:28 destroying the currency by quantitative tightening and raising interest rates but when you're raising 1024 2:09:28 --> 2:09:35 interest rates and already you know nearly 40 percent of all the companies listed on on on New 1025 2:09:35 --> 2:09:41 York Stock Exchange are not making any profit and more than 20 percent of them are zombies meaning 1026 2:09:41 --> 2:09:47 that they cannot even service their the interest on their debts from their free cash flows and now 1027 2:09:47 --> 2:09:51 if you're raising interest rate you're going to push a lot of them into bankruptcy and when you 1028 2:09:51 --> 2:09:57 push a lot of them into bankruptcy you're going to pull banks into bankruptcy because they're going 1029 2:09:57 --> 2:10:04 to have all these this bad debt on on their books and so the only way out of this is either you 1030 2:10:05 --> 2:10:14 let it happen you you let bank run bank runs happen or you're going to have to backstop them by 1031 2:10:14 --> 2:10:22 printing money and providing all the money to the banks to cover the bad debts or you know 1032 2:10:22 --> 2:10:30 to be more accurate they're going to be buying corporate bonds so that the corporations have 1033 2:10:32 --> 2:10:37 the liquidity to pay back their debts even though they're not profitable they're not efficient 1034 2:10:37 --> 2:10:44 they're not they're zombies so the result the ultimate result of this is inflation so we're 1035 2:10:44 --> 2:10:51 going to have a lot more inflation and so somebody somebody asked in the chat how to protect yourself 1036 2:10:51 --> 2:10:58 i spent eight years of my life managing something called an inflation hedging fund 1037 2:10:59 --> 2:11:04 so i you know over those eight years i think if if an article or book had the word inflation 1038 2:11:04 --> 2:11:13 in it i i probably read it there are two there are two effective ways to to hedge against inflation 1039 2:11:13 --> 2:11:19 one of them is farmland the other one is commodity futures exposure to commodity futures because as 1040 2:11:20 --> 2:11:26 the price of companies sorry as the as the purchasing power of the currency 1041 2:11:28 --> 2:11:34 erodes the prices of commodities go up because it's it's it's it's real stuff you know oil 1042 2:11:34 --> 2:11:40 copper gold coffee wheat prices of all of that goes up so that's how you would offset now i 1043 2:11:40 --> 2:11:46 wouldn't i wouldn't advise anybody to try to trade commodities on their own but there is 1044 2:11:46 --> 2:11:54 um i no longer manage money so i'm not i'm not selling um i'm not selling a service here but 1045 2:11:55 --> 2:12:03 basically you would want to look into cta hedge funds cta stands for commodities trading advisor 1046 2:12:03 --> 2:12:10 and somebody said here that hedge funds always lose clients money which which is partly true 1047 2:12:10 --> 2:12:18 but not entirely ctas have had you shouldn't laugh but we are no i know i know but it's you 1048 2:12:18 --> 2:12:23 know like there's some truth to it there is some truth to it but you know usually investors investors 1049 2:12:24 --> 2:12:28 help that because they always chase after performance you know they see they see a 1050 2:12:28 --> 2:12:32 fund performing well and then they go in and then when they have two or three months of drawdowns 1051 2:12:32 --> 2:12:38 then they pull out and they make a loss and maybe the fund itself is a good fund but the investors 1052 2:12:38 --> 2:12:43 jump in for wrong reasons and they jump up for the wrong reasons so anyway you know like if you 1053 2:12:43 --> 2:12:49 want to look into ctas commodities trading advisors they have had stellar performance the good ones 1054 2:12:49 --> 2:13:00 for decades like literally going back four decades five decades even and they particularly do well 1055 2:13:01 --> 2:13:07 if commodities are going up because they they always they always trade commodities inside of 1056 2:13:07 --> 2:13:13 their portfolios so if if you have an opportunity i was i would encourage you to do that do that i 1057 2:13:13 --> 2:13:20 i don't do that anymore so uh i couldn't i couldn't offer to help but you know the 1058 2:13:21 --> 2:13:28 that would be alex would you be would would you be willing to come on again and uh because i 1059 2:13:29 --> 2:13:35 i've always thought you're really brilliant uh and talk about empires i think people would be very 1060 2:13:35 --> 2:13:42 interested in the in the rise and fall of empires and the history your history of the rise and fall 1061 2:13:42 --> 2:13:46 of empires would be very interesting oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah with pleasure with great pleasure 1062 2:13:46 --> 2:13:54 absolutely how long did it take you to prepare for that though alex i mean we don't expect a 1063 2:13:54 --> 2:14:02 phd thesis but you know just to kind of talk to us uh on a level which is above ours you know 1064 2:14:03 --> 2:14:10 uh well i would say two weeks is that is that fair and we couldn't yes okay right now very good 1065 2:14:10 --> 2:14:16 okay we got we got five minutes ago i want to share a chart with you alex sorry everyone sorry i have 1066 2:14:16 --> 2:14:25 to somebody mentioned real estate i have to jump in because there's a misconception real estate is 1067 2:14:25 --> 2:14:31 not a good inflation hedge empirically it's an empirical fact and what happens is that you already 1068 2:14:31 --> 2:14:38 have real estate prices pumped up to i think something like 200 year highs in in in in 1069 2:14:39 --> 2:14:43 in strong inflationary environments people generally lose purchasing power they cannot keep up 1070 2:14:44 --> 2:14:50 so you'll see uh the real estate not keeping up with inflation it's not necessarily that 1071 2:14:50 --> 2:14:55 prices are going to go down in nominal terms but they don't keep up with inflation and 1072 2:14:55 --> 2:14:59 just to give you an illustration of what happened at the end of the 1073 2:15:01 --> 2:15:08 weimar inflation 100 years ago in germany is that by the time the whole crisis unraveled 1074 2:15:09 --> 2:15:14 you could buy a six-bedroom house in nice neighborhoods of berlin 1075 2:15:17 --> 2:15:23 for 100 okay a six-bedroom house on the outskirts of berlin for 100 dollars 1076 2:15:25 --> 2:15:32 alex when was that 19 december 1922 wow because the money became worthless and people had no 1077 2:15:32 --> 2:15:37 money no purchasing power whatsoever they lost everything and so they you know like they had 1078 2:15:37 --> 2:15:40 this in these real estate investments and they they they needed you know like they needed to 1079 2:15:40 --> 2:15:45 restructure their lives they were like give me 100 bucks i'll take the house because there were all 1080 2:15:45 --> 2:15:51 these empty houses people always over invest into real estate explanation what i mean by farmland 1081 2:15:51 --> 2:15:58 is like literally if you can a plot of land that you can use or that somebody can use for you 1082 2:16:01 --> 2:16:10 very good okay so i want to share this chart that wasn't prepared by us it it was shared last week 1083 2:16:12 --> 2:16:18 and this reinforces what alex has been sharing with us it's a useful chart to understand so 1084 2:16:18 --> 2:16:26 you no longer are confused and this shows who the policymakers are in this whole game of russia 1085 2:16:26 --> 2:16:33 ukraine now jerry brady and others and i agree these five circles here should be above the bank 1086 2:16:33 --> 2:16:40 of international settlements and central banks these players here they make the policy then we've 1087 2:16:40 --> 2:16:45 got the united nations and all these entities distributing the policy national governments 1088 2:16:45 --> 2:16:52 a third level down everybody they do as they're told and then we've got the mainstream media as 1089 2:16:52 --> 2:17:00 the policy propagandists and then there's us and let me just read the words beside you and i on 1090 2:17:00 --> 2:17:06 this call we the people are the subjects of the policies that cascade down as alex just said the 1091 2:17:06 --> 2:17:13 little people we the people that cascade down through the g3p system the global public private 1092 2:17:13 --> 2:17:19 partnership these are funded via tax and public borrowing which benefits the bis of the banks 1093 2:17:20 --> 2:17:27 and the people in the circles the system is designed to exploit us but we are an increasingly 1094 2:17:27 --> 2:17:33 unnecessary component as the g3p seeks to transform the global economy based upon the 1095 2:17:33 --> 2:17:43 financialization of nature and hence and hence larry palevsky's point of the depopulation we are 1096 2:17:43 --> 2:17:51 or as we offer here we're the useless eaters and so and so that's the game plan be no longer confused 1097 2:17:51 --> 2:17:56 thank you alex beautiful we've got jeremy and then steven we've got three four five more minutes 1098 2:17:56 --> 2:18:00 so alex is going to present to us more stevens they're well done on organizing that jeremy 1099 2:18:00 --> 2:18:09 yeah quick question alex is quite obviously we're facing bailouts which are going to be paid 1100 2:18:09 --> 2:18:16 as usual by the taxpayer through inflation and printing of money what about bail ins 1101 2:18:16 --> 2:18:24 do you see a potential for bail ins whereby the banks or whoever's left standing seizes 1102 2:18:25 --> 2:18:27 the assets of the depositors 1103 2:18:29 --> 2:18:40 um am i muted no okay um uh no i um jeremy i i don't think that's very likely i could be wrong 1104 2:18:40 --> 2:18:46 but i don't think it's very likely because i think that the uh the amount of debts and the amount of 1105 2:18:46 --> 2:18:56 liabilities that exist in the system uh eclipse the the depositors so if you if you even if you 1106 2:18:56 --> 2:19:03 bailed in everybody and basically confiscated everybody's assets you wouldn't plug up the 1107 2:19:03 --> 2:19:11 holes and but you know like what would what would happen is that suddenly everybody would instantly 1108 2:19:11 --> 2:19:17 from one day to the next lose all their purchasing power so uh economy would grind grind to a halt 1109 2:19:17 --> 2:19:23 and all of the all of the corporations that their credit that they that they own bonds in uh would 1110 2:19:24 --> 2:19:29 have no business so it would be it would practically be a collective suicide of the 1111 2:19:29 --> 2:19:38 system i think so you know even though after after the financial crisis of 2008 they created the 1112 2:19:38 --> 2:19:44 legal framework to be able to bail in the depositors i don't think they're gonna they're 1113 2:19:44 --> 2:19:51 gonna do it it would be like a poison pill uh but you know they'll do what they always do 1114 2:19:51 --> 2:19:58 and that is print money and they will print money until the currency goes you know to very close to 1115 2:19:58 --> 2:20:05 zero actually i asked the question because i have a friend my best friend in the world is croatian 1116 2:20:05 --> 2:20:17 and he uh he lived in bosnia and uh in varash near sari evo and he he has told me stories about 1117 2:20:17 --> 2:20:24 what happened to his parents when money was seized from their bank accounts uh way back when i don't 1118 2:20:24 --> 2:20:29 know the details but sound to me like a bail in but that was a communist regime of course 1119 2:20:30 --> 2:20:39 uh well what what period was he talking about um i'm guessing this would have been in the 50s and 1120 2:20:39 --> 2:20:45 60s 60s okay i that's before my time well you know like i remember the 70s and the 80s and you 1121 2:20:45 --> 2:20:52 know like we had for as long as i could remember we had uh economy was crap it was stagflation 1122 2:20:52 --> 2:21:02 uh all the time but we never had bank failures uh and we never had bank runs and so you know that 1123 2:21:02 --> 2:21:07 simply tells you that they that the central bank printed up all the money that they needed to 1124 2:21:07 --> 2:21:15 backstop all the bank losses and corporate losses and you know what you get instead is uh you know 1125 2:21:16 --> 2:21:24 the the merry-go-round goes round but the currency eventually fails 1126 2:21:26 --> 2:21:33 thank you okay so um so jerry brady has put the link in for boom finance and economics everybody 1127 2:21:33 --> 2:21:42 so go on that link you can subscribe to that it's a weekly newsletter i recommend it you know jerry 1128 2:21:42 --> 2:21:49 is read by many central bank decision makers so the links are there from the chat uh alex thank 1129 2:21:49 --> 2:21:55 you for sharing your experience knowledge thank you everybody for being here it's there two and 1130 2:21:55 --> 2:22:02 a half hours just if i if i manage it i will just now try to upload my book to the chat if i find 1131 2:22:02 --> 2:22:09 the book so if i if i manage it will appear okay we'll okay we'll wait we'll go for two or three 1132 2:22:09 --> 2:22:17 minutes and give you a bit of time okay thank you do you know how to do it alex uh i'm i'm 1133 2:22:17 --> 2:22:23 working on it i'm working on it right now i'm very good all right so while we're waiting 1134 2:22:23 --> 2:22:30 while we're waiting for alex well well so you so there are some people here who can help you to do 1135 2:22:30 --> 2:22:35 it if you don't know if you can do it steven if he's a bond trader he can organize an upload of a 1136 2:22:35 --> 2:22:40 document steven it's it's only no it's only a question whether i have the book on my phone 1137 2:22:40 --> 2:22:48 that's that's that's the only thing i'm not yeah i understand yeah yeah so it wasn't what you thought 1138 2:22:48 --> 2:22:53 charles he knows how to he knows that's right if he's got it on his phone that's the question 1139 2:22:54 --> 2:23:03 so there are some people here on their on their phones um all right so the it's now wednesday 1140 2:23:03 --> 2:23:10 morning and any any major announcements steven have you got someone for sunday 1141 2:23:11 --> 2:23:19 and are there any can i raise my hand please shasta um dr steven and charles um yesterday 1142 2:23:19 --> 2:23:25 when i was trying to track people down um a few people are interested um there's this um 1143 2:23:26 --> 2:23:33 my cycle story uh which has christian northwip and and a lady named tiffany and they're interested 1144 2:23:33 --> 2:23:40 at least tiffany's interested in being on to share about that um dr tom cohen is interested 1145 2:23:40 --> 2:23:48 in being on your show and there's and dr and dr amanda bulmer very much wants to she just needs 1146 2:23:48 --> 2:23:54 a head she needs to be invited ahead of time to get babysitting very good but she she wants to do 1147 2:23:54 --> 2:24:00 it and then there's this brad who is a retired lieutenant colonel who quit nine months before 1148 2:24:00 --> 2:24:05 his 20 year when he would have been able to retire because he he felt it was the right thing to do 1149 2:24:05 --> 2:24:11 so those are all four people that i have contacts for you that are interested are you guys okay with 1150 2:24:11 --> 2:24:16 all four of those with me communicating sharing them with you yes if you can share those with 1151 2:24:16 --> 2:24:22 just and i also thought so shasta um what about your dad your father you've mentioned him that 1152 2:24:23 --> 2:24:31 i don't know where he's what he's up to right now with any of this but i could but if you if you want 1153 2:24:31 --> 2:24:40 a if you want a um phd in botany um and a doctor of herbology and holistic medicine doctor i have 1154 2:24:40 --> 2:24:47 another one i can think of very good but i i feel like you're wanting more mds since this is a medical 1155 2:24:48 --> 2:24:55 doctor and you guys are out to figure out as well as we want priests and archbishops i've got a lot 1156 2:24:55 --> 2:25:00 of amazing amazing connections with holistic health people if if you want me to bring them on 1157 2:25:00 --> 2:25:09 you did mention someone someone at the church um pastor mike i'm going to go talk to him on sunday 1158 2:25:09 --> 2:25:14 because he stood up to the tyranny so those are five five people so i'm going to talk to 1159 2:25:14 --> 2:25:19 dr tom cohen today and if it's okay with you i'll tell him you guys are interested 1160 2:25:19 --> 2:25:26 in having him because he would like how much did that church uh rack up in fines almost a three 1161 2:25:26 --> 2:25:31 million dollar fine still right now that he that that church is fighting and he just never he only 1162 2:25:31 --> 2:25:37 was closed for two months and that was it and he said forget it okay yeah and that's the main thing 1163 2:25:38 --> 2:25:45 so he's still smiling justa yeah he's still smiling oh good alex you found it no no sorry 1164 2:25:45 --> 2:25:53 wrong wrong document please ignore it i wanted to check what the document was and instead i uh 1165 2:25:55 --> 2:26:01 uploaded uploaded please ignore alex have you put a secret document there 1166 2:26:02 --> 2:26:10 no you can ignore it it's a it's a journal it's a it's an article but i very good no it looks like 1167 2:26:10 --> 2:26:17 i don't have it on my phone i'm sorry but then next time i will alex were you going to upload 1168 2:26:17 --> 2:26:23 the grand deception yeah that's what i was going to do it's already the link to the pdf has already 1169 2:26:23 --> 2:26:31 been posted a couple of times oh okay yes but yeah but that doesn't mean to say people can find it 1170 2:26:32 --> 2:26:40 okay so alex if you email it to me or charles or both uh we'll get it we'll distribute it or we put 1171 2:26:40 --> 2:26:48 it on the next chat okay yes i'll do that thank you all right everybody um we'll be back thank you 1172 2:26:48 --> 2:27:00 stop the recording