1 0:00:00 --> 0:00:05 was from Dublin. Jerry, as you know, Australia was our whole 2 0:00:05 --> 0:00:10 our whole Catholic, our whole Catholicism in this country for 3 0:00:10 --> 0:00:15 two centuries has been dominated by the Irish. So I grew up being 4 0:00:15 --> 0:00:20 taught by the Irish. So let's get this show on the road. 5 0:00:20 --> 0:00:25 Welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and 6 0:00:25 --> 0:00:28 today's and welcome to today's discussion. This group was 7 0:00:28 --> 0:00:32 founded by Dr. Stephen Frost during the darkest days of the 8 0:00:32 --> 0:00:35 COVID scam responses. We have a desire to pursue truth, ethics, 9 0:00:35 --> 0:00:41 justice, freedom and health. Stephen has stood up against 10 0:00:41 --> 0:00:43 government and power over the years and has been a 11 0:00:43 --> 0:00:46 whistleblower and activist his medical specialties radiology. 12 0:00:46 --> 0:00:49 I'm Charles Covess, the moderator of this group. I'm 13 0:00:49 --> 0:00:52 Australasius passion provocateur. Our message in this 14 0:00:52 --> 0:00:55 group is to do what you're passionate about. I practiced 15 0:00:55 --> 0:01:00 law for 20 years before changing career 30 years ago. And over 16 0:01:00 --> 0:01:02 the last 12 years, I've helped parents and lawyers to 17 0:01:02 --> 0:01:06 strategize remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad 18 0:01:06 --> 0:01:11 medical advice. I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company. 19 0:01:11 --> 0:01:15 Hemp is going to be a massive protector for all of us, 20 0:01:15 --> 0:01:19 everybody. We comprise lots of professions, including lawyers, 21 0:01:19 --> 0:01:20 doctors, homeopaths, journalists, scientists, 22 0:01:20 --> 0:01:24 filmmakers, professors, peacemakers, troublemakers, and 23 0:01:24 --> 0:01:27 plenty of financiers to boot from all and we're from all 24 0:01:27 --> 0:01:30 around the world. Many of us thought that vaccines were okay. 25 0:01:30 --> 0:01:35 Now many of us proudly say yes, we are passionate anti vaxxers. 26 0:01:35 --> 0:01:38 And let me assure you that the Australian vaccination risks 27 0:01:38 --> 0:01:43 network that was founded in 1994, of which I am now the 28 0:01:43 --> 0:01:47 treasurer, we're about to call a moratorium on all vaccines, not 29 0:01:47 --> 0:01:51 just COVID jabs. If this is your first time here, welcome and 30 0:01:51 --> 0:01:54 feel free to introduce yourself in the chat and where you're 31 0:01:54 --> 0:01:56 from. If you publish a news letter or podcast or you have a 32 0:01:56 --> 0:02:01 radio TV show, or you've written a book, just like David Webb has 33 0:02:01 --> 0:02:04 put the links into the chat so we can follow you promote you 34 0:02:04 --> 0:02:07 and find you by the way, and Alex and I think Mads you also 35 0:02:07 --> 0:02:12 wrote a book that anyway, Alex, we promoted your book. Most of 36 0:02:12 --> 0:02:14 us understand we're in the middle of World War Three and 37 0:02:14 --> 0:02:17 the various battle lines as part of this war. Some of us believe 38 0:02:17 --> 0:02:21 we're in a continuation of World War Two. Most of us understand 39 0:02:21 --> 0:02:24 the development of science and the science is never settled. 40 0:02:24 --> 0:02:28 Some of us believe in viruses, some of us do not. Some are on 41 0:02:28 --> 0:02:33 the fence. Stephen and I are constantly criticized for daring 42 0:02:33 --> 0:02:37 to put anybody on this program who believes in viruses, Jerry, 43 0:02:37 --> 0:02:42 you're one of those. Okay, so we get criticized. How could you 44 0:02:42 --> 0:02:47 possibly put anybody onto this? You guys are total idiots for 45 0:02:47 --> 0:02:50 letting anybody who believes in a virus to speak on this 46 0:02:50 --> 0:02:55 program. So there you are. This meeting runs and we're and also 47 0:02:55 --> 0:02:57 plenty of people say that anybody who questions Israel 48 0:02:57 --> 0:03:01 means this whole this whole group here is violently anti 49 0:03:01 --> 0:03:05 Semitic. So there you are. This meeting runs for two and a half 50 0:03:05 --> 0:03:09 hours after which for those with the time Tom Rodman runs a video 51 0:03:09 --> 0:03:11 telegram meeting Tom puts the links into the chat if you're 52 0:03:11 --> 0:03:16 able to join. We'll listen to Jerry and Alex and Mads and 53 0:03:16 --> 0:03:19 David Webb for as long as they wish to speak. And then we have 54 0:03:19 --> 0:03:24 q&a but we'll decide how we're going to structure this. Stephen 55 0:03:24 --> 0:03:26 Frost, by long established tradition asked the first 56 0:03:26 --> 0:03:29 questions for 15 minutes, there's no censorship, it's a free 57 0:03:29 --> 0:03:33 speech environment with appropriate moderating free 58 0:03:33 --> 0:03:36 speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human 59 0:03:36 --> 0:03:40 freedoms. If you're offended by anything be offended, we're 60 0:03:40 --> 0:03:43 genuinely not interested, we reject the offense industry that 61 0:03:43 --> 0:03:48 requires nobody to say anything that may offend another. And to 62 0:03:48 --> 0:03:51 that end on this question of the dramas going on in Israel 63 0:03:51 --> 0:03:57 now. It's, it's a very interesting question, you know, 64 0:03:57 --> 0:04:01 that if anybody questions, if anybody questions what Israel 65 0:04:01 --> 0:04:09 does, that's anti Semitic. It's, it's if anybody like it, like 66 0:04:09 --> 0:04:13 it's quite extraordinary, the labels that get thrown at people 67 0:04:13 --> 0:04:16 so just observe your own reaction to what's happening 68 0:04:16 --> 0:04:22 generally. free speech is an interesting game and the labels 69 0:04:22 --> 0:04:27 of anti Semitism of racism of transphobic that's right. And a 70 0:04:27 --> 0:04:31 look fees last week speaker is accused of being transphobic for 71 0:04:31 --> 0:04:38 daring to question gender transition. So query the value of 72 0:04:38 --> 0:04:42 labels. However, we come with an attitude and perspective of love, 73 0:04:42 --> 0:04:46 not fear, fear is the opposite of love fear squashes you love on 74 0:04:46 --> 0:04:49 the other hand expands you. I remind you of Dr. Shiva's 75 0:04:49 --> 0:04:52 wonderful swarm video where he says the solution to what's 76 0:04:52 --> 0:04:57 happening on the planet is for men and women to cooperate and to 77 0:04:57 --> 0:05:03 not get pushed into buckets of people not get into identity 78 0:05:03 --> 0:05:06 politics, but for us as men and women to push back against the 79 0:05:06 --> 0:05:13 global cabal that is driving extraordinary divisiveness on 80 0:05:13 --> 0:05:17 our planet. These twice weekly meetings are not just talk 81 0:05:17 --> 0:05:20 fest and extraordinary range of actions and initiatives have 82 0:05:20 --> 0:05:23 been generated from linkages made by attendees in these 83 0:05:23 --> 0:05:26 meetings. If you have a solution or product or links or resources 84 0:05:26 --> 0:05:29 that will help people put the details in the chat if you have 85 0:05:29 --> 0:05:32 people you think we should invite, send their email 86 0:05:32 --> 0:05:35 details to me we'll put them on the invitation list. The 87 0:05:35 --> 0:05:37 meetings recorded and is uploaded on the rumble channel. 88 0:05:38 --> 0:05:43 And now welcome to Jerry Brady, Alex Craner, Mads Palswig and 89 0:05:43 --> 0:05:49 David Rogers Webb. And thank you, Stephen Gay for creating 90 0:05:49 --> 0:05:55 this group and organising these four geniuses on money to join 91 0:05:55 --> 0:05:59 us and gentlemen, I know you haven't done a huge amount of 92 0:05:59 --> 0:06:04 briefing. And the question that the question that I have for you 93 0:06:04 --> 0:06:07 to contemplate as you decide how you're going to play this with 94 0:06:07 --> 0:06:11 the four of you talking about money, about global machinations 95 0:06:11 --> 0:06:16 on money about what should I do if I sell my house for $2 million? 96 0:06:16 --> 0:06:21 Sorry, if I've got a house for $2 million? Do I hold on to my 97 0:06:21 --> 0:06:25 house? It's unencumbered? Do I sell my house? If I get $2 98 0:06:25 --> 0:06:29 million cash? What am I going to do with it? Where do I put it? 99 0:06:29 --> 0:06:33 What country do I move to? And these are all the different 100 0:06:33 --> 0:06:37 questions that have been have been asked of me in various 101 0:06:37 --> 0:06:41 forums, for that I moderate. So they're the sorts of financial 102 0:06:41 --> 0:06:45 matters that are exercising many minds on this call. And so 103 0:06:45 --> 0:06:53 gentlemen, over to you, Jerry and Alex and Mads and David, have 104 0:06:53 --> 0:06:55 you guys spoken about anything and how you want to play it or 105 0:06:55 --> 0:06:58 just want to launch into it, make some opening statements and 106 0:06:58 --> 0:06:59 we'll have Q&A. 107 0:07:02 --> 0:07:03 I can launch it. 108 0:07:04 --> 0:07:05 We haven't spoken. 109 0:07:05 --> 0:07:11 So Alex, and so I'll just say what I know all four of you and I 110 0:07:11 --> 0:07:17 think the ones who, it's not criticism of the other two, but 111 0:07:17 --> 0:07:23 I think the ones who maybe are least shy about deciding which 112 0:07:23 --> 0:07:29 way the conversation should go are Alex and Jerry. 113 0:07:29 --> 0:07:33 So there you are, Alex and Jerry are the least shy. Mads, I 114 0:07:33 --> 0:07:36 consider that an insult to you, but anyway, be that as it may. 115 0:07:38 --> 0:07:40 Oh, no, it's not an insult. 116 0:07:40 --> 0:07:42 No, I'm being playful, Stephen. 117 0:07:42 --> 0:07:45 Yeah, I know. I was just pretending. 118 0:07:51 --> 0:07:53 I was just going to answer Charles's question, Alex, before 119 0:07:53 --> 0:07:55 we get into the world of money. 120 0:07:56 --> 0:07:58 Yeah, please go ahead. 121 0:07:59 --> 0:08:03 Oh, I just wanted to say, in terms of personal financial 122 0:08:03 --> 0:08:07 situation, Charles, every person's financial situation is 123 0:08:07 --> 0:08:11 actually different. And it's very hard to give you advice 124 0:08:11 --> 0:08:13 because I don't know if you've got an auntie who's a 125 0:08:14 --> 0:08:17 multimillionaire who's about to die and give you 100 million 126 0:08:17 --> 0:08:20 dollars. I have no idea what your circumstances are or 127 0:08:20 --> 0:08:25 anybody else. So it's an avoidance of the question, 128 0:08:25 --> 0:08:29 really, perhaps Alex might like to answer it a little bit more 129 0:08:29 --> 0:08:34 carefully. But if you if you sell your your real assets or 130 0:08:34 --> 0:08:38 financial assets and go to cash, you then have to place the cash 131 0:08:38 --> 0:08:41 somewhere. Okay, we've got to then reinvest in another asset. 132 0:08:42 --> 0:08:45 You've got a lot of decisions to make if you liquidate your 133 0:08:45 --> 0:08:51 assets. And the main reason to liquidate your assets would be 134 0:08:52 --> 0:08:57 the idea that we're entering into an asset deflation crisis. 135 0:08:58 --> 0:09:03 So if we are then liquidation is the right strategy. If we're 136 0:09:03 --> 0:09:05 not liquidation is the wrong strategy. 137 0:09:08 --> 0:09:14 Yeah, and also, what about David Webb, who talks about the 138 0:09:14 --> 0:09:16 dematerialization of assets? 139 0:09:16 --> 0:09:16 I 140 0:09:19 --> 0:09:28 what Jerry just said, to to complicate matters further. So 141 0:09:28 --> 0:09:36 one one thing I, you know, I, I, I think it's very difficult to 142 0:09:37 --> 0:09:44 understand the history that we're coming out of. And but one 143 0:09:44 --> 0:09:50 way of doing that is to, you know, work with living memory. 144 0:09:52 --> 0:09:57 What what has happened before, you know, many of us are within 145 0:09:57 --> 0:10:02 this living memory of, and this call, living memory of what 146 0:10:02 --> 0:10:08 happened in the early 20th century. And responding to what 147 0:10:08 --> 0:10:12 Jerry is saying, one of the things that I found in looking 148 0:10:12 --> 0:10:18 at my grandfather's history. Now he this this grandfather was a 149 0:10:18 --> 0:10:27 surgeon in World War One, this medical unit into France, and 150 0:10:28 --> 0:10:35 came came back. And that's a whole story. But in 1923, he 151 0:10:35 --> 0:10:41 bought these three lots in Shaker Heights, in Cleveland. 152 0:10:43 --> 0:10:48 And absolutely, there was a bubble that developed through 153 0:10:48 --> 0:10:52 the 20s. And there were ups and downs in the bubble, but it was 154 0:10:52 --> 0:10:58 a profound bubble. And what most people don't know is there was a 155 0:10:58 --> 0:11:03 further real estate bubble after the stock market crashed, because 156 0:11:03 --> 0:11:07 the Fed provided even more liquidity after the stock market 157 0:11:07 --> 0:11:11 crashed. And so we've, we've been living through some of that. 158 0:11:12 --> 0:11:18 So is that right? You know, my grandfather, if he had sold those 159 0:11:18 --> 0:11:25 properties at the top, and put the money into the stock market, 160 0:11:26 --> 0:11:29 then when the stock market crashed, he would have lost 161 0:11:29 --> 0:11:34 everything. So he was probably glad he kept the real properties. 162 0:11:34 --> 0:11:39 Then if he had sold them during the further bubble that occurred 163 0:11:39 --> 0:11:43 after the stock market crash, which is kind of what we've been 164 0:11:43 --> 0:11:48 in during the COVID period, if he had sold those properties and 165 0:11:48 --> 0:11:51 put the money in the banks, he would have lost all the money in 166 0:11:51 --> 0:11:59 the banks. So after, I guess, was another 30 years, my 167 0:11:59 --> 0:12:04 grandmother sold the properties for a third of what he paid for 168 0:12:04 --> 0:12:12 them. So it's not a matter of the valuation level. It's a matter 169 0:12:12 --> 0:12:17 of having anything. It's a matter of holding because the price 170 0:12:17 --> 0:12:21 level can change. You know, we're, I believe we're going, we will 171 0:12:21 --> 0:12:29 go into a profound deflationary collapse. So it's, it's not a 172 0:12:29 --> 0:12:34 matter of where you get out, you know, because as you're saying, 173 0:12:34 --> 0:12:42 what do you put the money into? I believe that, you know, 174 0:12:42 --> 0:12:49 constructs are dissolving, unreal things are dissolving. We 175 0:12:49 --> 0:12:56 will, we will find that real, we'll, we'll rediscover the 176 0:12:56 --> 0:13:03 value of many things that we've lost recognition of in our, in 177 0:13:03 --> 0:13:11 our culture, in our lives. But, you know, anyway, I think it's, 178 0:13:11 --> 0:13:17 I, I say it's important to get real, to really think about how 179 0:13:17 --> 0:13:21 you're going to live and to have real things. 180 0:13:25 --> 0:13:27 So have we decided on that, Alex? 181 0:13:28 --> 0:13:34 Well, what I was going to say is that based on, based on what I've 182 0:13:34 --> 0:13:39 learned about this, and I've spent pretty much the last 15 or even 183 0:13:39 --> 0:13:44 longer years of my life, basically focusing on inflation as 184 0:13:44 --> 0:13:49 the coming challenge. And what are the effective strategies and 185 0:13:49 --> 0:13:51 what are not the effective strategies of dealing with it? 186 0:13:51 --> 0:13:56 There are two, there are two asset classes that provide any 187 0:13:56 --> 0:14:01 meaningful protection from inflation, and that is commodity 188 0:14:01 --> 0:14:08 futures and farmland and real estate, you know, if you, you 189 0:14:08 --> 0:14:11 know, real estate sounds like something real, like a real 190 0:14:11 --> 0:14:17 asset, but David is very right. Usually all these things that 191 0:14:17 --> 0:14:23 But David is very right. Usually all these things crumble down to 192 0:14:23 --> 0:14:27 nothing in an inflationary environment, which is where 193 0:14:27 --> 0:14:33 we're going. So if you go back 100 years to the Weimar Republic, 194 0:14:34 --> 0:14:40 which is, you know, instructive for our purposes, that that that's 195 0:14:40 --> 0:14:44 a valid experience. When the whole crisis unraveled at the 196 0:14:44 --> 0:14:51 end of 1922, in December 1922, you would have been able to buy 197 0:14:52 --> 0:14:59 the whole of Mercedes Benz company for the price equivalent 198 0:14:59 --> 0:15:05 to 327 of their cars. So that was the market cap of the 199 0:15:05 --> 0:15:10 company at that time. And, you know, I don't know this, but I 200 0:15:10 --> 0:15:14 would guess that they must have had that many cars around, you 201 0:15:14 --> 0:15:17 know, on their on their production lot and around their 202 0:15:17 --> 0:15:21 dealerships. So it means that the company was basically 203 0:15:21 --> 0:15:27 worthless. And also, in terms of real estate, at that same time, 204 0:15:27 --> 0:15:34 you would have been able to buy a six bedroom house in a in a in 205 0:15:34 --> 0:15:41 a good neighborhood of Berlin for 100 us US dollars. And so 206 0:15:41 --> 0:15:47 what that tells you is neither stocks, neither equities, nor 207 0:15:47 --> 0:15:53 real estate really offer any meaningful protection in an in 208 0:15:53 --> 0:15:59 an in an how do you call it inflationary crisis? And so, you 209 0:15:59 --> 0:16:03 know, what are what are the real things that can as I said, 210 0:16:03 --> 0:16:06 farmland commodity futures? Well, you know, not everybody can 211 0:16:06 --> 0:16:09 go into commodity futures. But there's always things like silver 212 0:16:09 --> 0:16:13 and gold, like real ones, you know, something you can hold in 213 0:16:13 --> 0:16:24 your hand, not not ETFs and and various bank products. I think 214 0:16:24 --> 0:16:27 that people should focus on preserving their purchasing 215 0:16:27 --> 0:16:34 power. You know, tracking your wealth in nominal terms is going 216 0:16:34 --> 0:16:41 to become meaningless. In an inflationary environment, you 217 0:16:41 --> 0:16:44 know, there are two there are two possibilities. Either the 218 0:16:44 --> 0:16:47 stock markets crash, we have a we get a we get a big bear 219 0:16:47 --> 0:16:53 market and the stock market loses 60 70 80 90%. Or the stock 220 0:16:53 --> 0:16:57 market goes vertical up. This is what happened in Weimar Republic. 221 0:16:57 --> 0:17:01 This is what happened in Venezuela in 2015 2016. This is 222 0:17:01 --> 0:17:05 what happened in Argentina. This happened in Israel in 1986 and 223 0:17:05 --> 0:17:09 so on. So there's a lot of these examples where actually country 224 0:17:09 --> 0:17:13 goes into a stagflationary crisis and an accelerating rate 225 0:17:13 --> 0:17:20 of inflation and stocks go go, you know, high very sharply. But 226 0:17:20 --> 0:17:24 the investors still end up losing everything because the loss of 227 0:17:24 --> 0:17:30 purchasing power of money outstrips the the the any gains 228 0:17:30 --> 0:17:35 that you have in stock markets. And so I mentioned the price of 229 0:17:35 --> 0:17:38 the market cap of Mercedes Benz Corporation after the Weimar 230 0:17:38 --> 0:17:42 Republic and that was Weimar was an example where stock markets 231 0:17:42 --> 0:17:46 went up vertical during the during the inflationary 232 0:17:46 --> 0:17:51 unraveling. But you know, rather than worrying about, you know, 233 0:17:53 --> 0:17:56 generating good returns and making money on inflation, I 234 0:17:56 --> 0:18:01 think that the plan should be the strategic plan for everybody 235 0:18:01 --> 0:18:06 should be to try to preserve the purchasing power of the of their 236 0:18:06 --> 0:18:12 wealth to the to the greatest extent possible. Because once the 237 0:18:12 --> 0:18:18 crisis does unravel, then you're going to be able to pick up real 238 0:18:18 --> 0:18:24 stuff for next to nothing, you know, like a six bedroom villa 239 0:18:24 --> 0:18:30 in the outskirts of Berlin or Mercedes Benz corporations. Who 240 0:18:30 --> 0:18:36 knows what's going to be out there. But so even even if you 241 0:18:36 --> 0:18:41 had a reasonable plot of farmland or some gold or some 242 0:18:41 --> 0:18:48 silver, silver and I very much agree with with with what David 243 0:18:48 --> 0:18:53 is saying in in in the great taking is that you need to get 244 0:18:53 --> 0:18:58 rid of debt, you need to not go into the crisis with a lot of 245 0:18:58 --> 0:19:05 personal debt or if you have a business, business debt. And then 246 0:19:07 --> 0:19:11 you know, if you preserved yourself, then you're in a good 247 0:19:11 --> 0:19:17 position to start rebuilding wealth. And so if I sold my 248 0:19:17 --> 0:19:25 house now, I would probably try to acquire real assets, but not, 249 0:19:25 --> 0:19:31 you know, apartments, other other kinds, but silver, gold 250 0:19:31 --> 0:19:38 farmland. I would also try to, you know, work together with the 251 0:19:38 --> 0:19:44 local community. Ah, okay, Janet, yes, inflation and 252 0:19:44 --> 0:19:49 deflation. It's not a different. It's not a different thing in 253 0:19:49 --> 0:19:52 this thing. In this sense, you're going to get inflation in 254 0:19:52 --> 0:19:58 nominal terms. So the prices of things are going to go up. But 255 0:19:58 --> 0:20:03 the deflation is that at the end of it, everything's going to be 256 0:20:04 --> 0:20:08 in a state of collapse, you know, deflation in real terms and 257 0:20:08 --> 0:20:10 inflation in nominal terms. I don't know if that makes sense. 258 0:20:10 --> 0:20:18 But inflation in this sense is the progressive loss of 259 0:20:18 --> 0:20:24 purchasing power of the money of the currency. But as that 260 0:20:24 --> 0:20:31 happens, the asset prices, the prices of real things like real 261 0:20:31 --> 0:20:40 estate and stocks and bonds are going to collapse. So that's 262 0:20:40 --> 0:20:47 deflation. That's about it. Yeah, I think the crypto is not a 263 0:20:47 --> 0:20:52 bad idea. Not a bad idea to diversify. You know, I wouldn't 264 0:20:52 --> 0:20:57 put all my eggs in that basket. But, you know, if you buy a 265 0:20:57 --> 0:21:00 little bit of silver and a little bit of gold and a little 266 0:21:00 --> 0:21:03 bit of farmland, I would add a little bit of Bitcoin to that 267 0:21:03 --> 0:21:07 mix as well. You know, we don't know what's going to happen, but 268 0:21:08 --> 0:21:12 we're gonna get and then you know, something very important 269 0:21:12 --> 0:21:18 is that I learned from from David in his book is that they 270 0:21:18 --> 0:21:24 could make owning gold illegal again. And so then your 271 0:21:24 --> 0:21:27 allocation to gold and silver could also become a liability. 272 0:21:27 --> 0:21:32 You wouldn't be you might not be able to use it. So Alex, we've 273 0:21:33 --> 0:21:40 got it. That's, let's just hang on. I'm worried. I'm worried we 274 0:21:40 --> 0:21:42 haven't heard from Mads. Say hello, Mads and then go back to 275 0:21:42 --> 0:21:43 Jerry. 276 0:21:45 --> 0:21:47 Yeah, I will say hello. And then after Jerry, I have something 277 0:21:47 --> 0:21:49 I'd like to add to the mix. 278 0:21:51 --> 0:21:54 I just wanted to clarify what Alex was talking about there and 279 0:21:54 --> 0:21:59 what Dave was talking about for listeners. There's CPI 280 0:21:59 --> 0:22:04 inflation, and there's asset price inflation. So this is what 281 0:22:04 --> 0:22:10 both Alex and David are talking about. And so that's a bit 282 0:22:10 --> 0:22:14 confusing to a lot of people. You've just got to if you 283 0:22:14 --> 0:22:17 understand, though, if you read the newspapers and magazines, 284 0:22:17 --> 0:22:19 and you try to get your information there, you'll only 285 0:22:19 --> 0:22:23 ever hear about CPI inflation. You'll never hear about asset 286 0:22:23 --> 0:22:30 price, inflation or asset price deflation. So that's this, you've 287 0:22:30 --> 0:22:36 got to get your mind attuned to those two different concepts of 288 0:22:37 --> 0:22:41 asset price inflation, CPI or price of goods and services 289 0:22:41 --> 0:22:45 inflation. So the two different things. Basically, they're the 290 0:22:45 --> 0:22:49 destination for money. And so it's where the destinations. 291 0:22:49 --> 0:22:53 So Jerry's the CPI deflation, does that always coexist with 292 0:22:54 --> 0:22:59 asset deflation? Or can you have both inflating? 293 0:22:59 --> 0:23:06 Well, okay. This all gets very complicated. In some Alex was 294 0:23:06 --> 0:23:08 referring to some of the episodes in history where there's 295 0:23:08 --> 0:23:12 been hyperinflation. hyperinflation is not high 296 0:23:12 --> 0:23:17 inflation. Okay, it's not it's where the currency collapses. 297 0:23:18 --> 0:23:21 Okay, so if the currency collapses, and you're holding 298 0:23:21 --> 0:23:25 that currency, then all the price of everything's everyday 299 0:23:25 --> 0:23:29 goods and services skyrocket. So that's a hyper inflation 300 0:23:29 --> 0:23:33 re event. Okay, so there's high inflation, and then there's 301 0:23:33 --> 0:23:36 hyperinflation. So there but there again, two different, 302 0:23:36 --> 0:23:39 totally different concepts hyperinflation is currency 303 0:23:39 --> 0:23:45 collapse. And I've answered your question, Stephen, but so so 304 0:23:45 --> 0:23:50 you've got CPI, your CPI, you've got assets and you've got 305 0:23:50 --> 0:23:51 currency, yes. 306 0:23:52 --> 0:23:54 Well, yes. So you've got correct. So there's really three 307 0:23:54 --> 0:23:58 concepts, the CPI cost of goods and services inflation is asset 308 0:23:58 --> 0:24:01 price inflation. And then Alex has brought in the concept of 309 0:24:01 --> 0:24:06 when a hyperinflation event occurs. hyperinflation event, 310 0:24:06 --> 0:24:10 however, is a currency collapse, where the where the population 311 0:24:10 --> 0:24:16 switches to an alternative currency. And so, so at the same 312 0:24:16 --> 0:24:19 time as there's a hyperinflation event occurring, there's a 313 0:24:19 --> 0:24:23 hyper deflation event occurring at exactly the same time in the 314 0:24:23 --> 0:24:28 alternative currency. Okay, so if you're if you're in 315 0:24:28 --> 0:24:33 Venezuela, four years ago, whatever, or in Zimbabwe 15 316 0:24:33 --> 0:24:36 years ago, whatever it was, and you're holding the local 317 0:24:36 --> 0:24:40 currency, then then the price of everything is skyrocketing up 318 0:24:40 --> 0:24:44 woods. But if you're holding US dollars, the price of everything 319 0:24:44 --> 0:24:48 is collapsing. So this is both occurring at exactly the same 320 0:24:48 --> 0:24:52 time. Understand that? Yes, that's in a very, that's in a 321 0:24:52 --> 0:24:56 currency collapse. So you get both events occurring at exactly 322 0:24:56 --> 0:25:01 the same time, hyperinflation, hyper deflation, same time. And 323 0:25:01 --> 0:25:04 in that's a very rare event, currency collapse is not a 324 0:25:04 --> 0:25:06 common event. And you've got to have an alternative currency for 325 0:25:07 --> 0:25:11 the people to switch to that to happen. But in normal everyday 326 0:25:11 --> 0:25:16 activities of finance and economics, you have varying 327 0:25:16 --> 0:25:20 degrees of asset price inflation and CPI inflation and deflation 328 0:25:20 --> 0:25:25 occurring, you know, in sync in some sort of harmony, we'll call 329 0:25:25 --> 0:25:28 it harmony, but that you get excesses of asset price 330 0:25:28 --> 0:25:32 inflation, and then you get deflation. And this is going on 331 0:25:32 --> 0:25:37 all the time. Okay, but if you understand in a hyperinflation 332 0:25:37 --> 0:25:41 event, currency collapse, you get hyper deflation at the same 333 0:25:41 --> 0:25:44 time, if you're, if you're holding the alternative currency, 334 0:25:44 --> 0:25:47 then they're occurring at exactly the same time. Okay, 335 0:25:47 --> 0:25:50 understand that? That's the most extreme example of everything, 336 0:25:50 --> 0:25:53 which is what Alex and David are talking about. In other words, 337 0:25:53 --> 0:25:57 if your whole if your currency is collapsing, and all of the 338 0:25:57 --> 0:26:01 assets that you hold are in that currency, denominated in that 339 0:26:01 --> 0:26:05 currency, then you are experiencing a massive hyper 340 0:26:05 --> 0:26:09 inflation. But everybody holding the alternative currency is 341 0:26:09 --> 0:26:14 experiencing a hyper deflation. It's the best way to try and get 342 0:26:14 --> 0:26:18 your head around that. Okay. Clarified rather than made it 343 0:26:18 --> 0:26:19 more mystified. 344 0:26:20 --> 0:26:24 So while we're on currency, Jerry, 345 0:26:24 --> 0:26:26 the hang on, that's what's going to come in soon. 346 0:26:26 --> 0:26:32 Oh, yeah, I was going to ask Matt. So, yes, okay. Well, how 347 0:26:32 --> 0:26:33 do you get a reserve? 348 0:26:33 --> 0:26:37 Have a breather, Steven, and think of your next question. And 349 0:26:37 --> 0:26:38 now I want to say something now. Yeah. 350 0:26:39 --> 0:26:39 Oh, fine. Yeah. 351 0:26:41 --> 0:26:45 Okay, so guys, listen, we're talking about inflation, various 352 0:26:45 --> 0:26:49 foreign types of inflation. We're talking about giving each 353 0:26:49 --> 0:26:56 other an advice, how we can avoid suffering the consequences 354 0:26:56 --> 0:27:00 of the crimes committed by the current mafia controlling the 355 0:27:00 --> 0:27:07 world. Okay. So, yes, let's just play for I'll play along for two 356 0:27:07 --> 0:27:11 minutes. Let's just play that we are powers trying just to see 357 0:27:11 --> 0:27:18 how we can survive the onslaught on humanity by the mafia. Yes, we 358 0:27:18 --> 0:27:21 could put all our currency in the right currency, be a Nazi. 359 0:27:22 --> 0:27:25 And what happened to them in 1945 in Denmark, they collaborated 360 0:27:25 --> 0:27:30 with the Germans, tell you what happens. They were burning their 361 0:27:30 --> 0:27:36 Danish Kroner notes in their gardens. Because in 1945, there 362 0:27:36 --> 0:27:39 was a currency reform, but they would come and come by you. 363 0:27:39 --> 0:27:42 Yes, you could keep your your Danish Kroner and convert them 364 0:27:42 --> 0:27:44 to the new Kroner unless you have been collaborating with the 365 0:27:44 --> 0:27:47 Germans. If you collaborated with Germans, they were gone. So 366 0:27:47 --> 0:27:50 they were burning their currencies. So you could be doing 367 0:27:50 --> 0:27:53 all the right things. You could be sucking up to the people with 368 0:27:53 --> 0:27:57 the biggest guns for years and you and you look good and safe to 369 0:27:57 --> 0:28:02 be screwed overnight. You can also buy farmland and move out in 370 0:28:02 --> 0:28:05 the countryside and everything is beautiful. That's even even 50 371 0:28:05 --> 0:28:07 kilometers to the nearest neighbor. It's only a matter of 372 0:28:07 --> 0:28:11 time when people are hungry enough. You might run out of 373 0:28:11 --> 0:28:17 bullets. You can also also buy gold. Lucky you. Yes, you found 374 0:28:17 --> 0:28:21 the right thing. You've bought gold. Oh, you are so clever. 375 0:28:21 --> 0:28:24 Until someone comes and takes it away from you, you're not so 376 0:28:24 --> 0:28:28 clever anymore. Right? Exactly. Could we just for crying out 377 0:28:28 --> 0:28:33 loud, change this conversation to what we should be doing? 378 0:28:33 --> 0:28:38 Instead of trying to use our skills, our knowledge, our 379 0:28:38 --> 0:28:44 wisdom on how we can advise each other in surviving while all the 380 0:28:44 --> 0:28:50 stupid people are dying. I'm not having any of that. Okay, so what 381 0:28:50 --> 0:28:53 we should be talking about is we should talk about the world is 382 0:28:53 --> 0:28:58 abundant. The world is truly abundant. There is no reason 383 0:28:58 --> 0:29:01 anybody is suffering. The only reason any people are suffering 384 0:29:01 --> 0:29:06 is because we are allowing our politicians to send money to 385 0:29:06 --> 0:29:11 wars. Another single war has ever been because some Danish 386 0:29:11 --> 0:29:14 farmer woke up and said, hey, I'm going to take all my sons and 387 0:29:14 --> 0:29:17 go to Sweden and kill some Swedes. While a Swedish farmer 388 0:29:17 --> 0:29:21 never said, hey, I want to go go to Denmark and kill some Danes. 389 0:29:21 --> 0:29:25 It never happens. It was bankers wars. They are all bankers 390 0:29:25 --> 0:29:29 wars, and they all benefit the rich people. We should be 391 0:29:29 --> 0:29:31 talking about we stop the fucking mafia. That's what we 392 0:29:31 --> 0:29:35 should be talking about. Now they want to come with universal 393 0:29:35 --> 0:29:37 basic income. Why do they want to do that? Because they will 394 0:29:37 --> 0:29:41 have to. Now there's so much innovation, so much artificial 395 0:29:41 --> 0:29:46 intelligence already now only 1% of Danes are in agriculture. 396 0:29:46 --> 0:29:51 We produce food for 60 million people. We produce. We have 5.9 397 0:29:51 --> 0:29:53 million. We produce food for 10 times more people than we are. 398 0:29:54 --> 0:29:58 Then we have 2% in industry. We have net exporters of industry. 399 0:29:58 --> 0:30:04 Thanks to all our 700,000 summer houses and a coastline of 7,500 400 0:30:04 --> 0:30:07 kilometers, which is two and a half times longer than France's, 401 0:30:07 --> 0:30:10 we have so many German tourists. We even have a surplus on the 402 0:30:10 --> 0:30:15 tourist balance. The world is so abundant. What is the rest of the 403 0:30:15 --> 0:30:18 97% doing? Well, we're basically, they're working in 404 0:30:18 --> 0:30:21 the public sector creating problems and stupid laws for 405 0:30:21 --> 0:30:23 each other. You have to wear a mask, you have to sit down, you 406 0:30:23 --> 0:30:26 have to stand up, you have to take it off, you have to put it 407 0:30:26 --> 0:30:28 off. We have to discuss about whether we should be vaccinated 408 0:30:28 --> 0:30:32 or not vaccinated. We're talking about silly things. When we sent 409 0:30:32 --> 0:30:36 home the entire public sector, nobody noticed. Nobody noticed. 410 0:30:37 --> 0:30:41 Because they're not producing anything. If anything, they're 411 0:30:41 --> 0:30:44 producing negative producers. What we should be talking about 412 0:30:44 --> 0:30:49 in our group is how do we fuck the mafia who's trying to kill 413 0:30:49 --> 0:30:52 us, who's trying to poison us. That's what we should be talking 414 0:30:52 --> 0:30:56 about. If you want to talk about that, I'm absolutely happy to 415 0:30:56 --> 0:31:00 stay on this call. If you want to have a talk about inflation 416 0:31:00 --> 0:31:02 and stuff like that, explain people something that they 417 0:31:02 --> 0:31:04 probably never would if they haven't understood inflation. 418 0:31:04 --> 0:31:07 People here on this call are my age, most of them. If you 419 0:31:07 --> 0:31:09 haven't understood inflation now, you're probably not going to 420 0:31:10 --> 0:31:13 understand it within the next two hours anyway. And again, even 421 0:31:13 --> 0:31:16 if you understood it, that could be an event like in 1991 in 422 0:31:16 --> 0:31:20 Russia. So we had the richest country in the world, no debt at 423 0:31:20 --> 0:31:24 all. Nobody had a debt in their flat. Nobody had a debt in their 424 0:31:24 --> 0:31:30 house. The government owned all the corporations. And Howard 425 0:31:30 --> 0:31:37 bastards and Wall Street banksters flew in together with 426 0:31:37 --> 0:31:47 corrupt Zionist politicians. And they printed $250 billion. Just 427 0:31:47 --> 0:31:50 like we know Victoria Nuland, she paid $5 billion for regime 428 0:31:50 --> 0:31:54 change in Ukraine. The Russians are more expensive. I don't know 429 0:31:54 --> 0:31:56 it's because they're less corrupt. It's just like the 430 0:31:56 --> 0:31:59 question of the woman, OK, will you sleep with me for a million? 431 0:31:59 --> 0:32:02 Yes, we'll know. Now you're a prostitute. So now we can just 432 0:32:02 --> 0:32:05 talk about the price. So the Russians are just more expensive. 433 0:32:05 --> 0:32:09 But $250 billion. Then they paid off the entire doomer and they 434 0:32:09 --> 0:32:13 convinced them that they were bankrupt. And they made a 435 0:32:13 --> 0:32:20 currency conversion where they took all the money of all the 436 0:32:20 --> 0:32:22 savings of the entire Russian population in a country that 437 0:32:22 --> 0:32:26 didn't they didn't have any debt. How can you do that? Even even 438 0:32:26 --> 0:32:29 other nations were net debtors to Russia. It was the richest 439 0:32:29 --> 0:32:32 country in the world in 1991. If you came if you'd come in and 440 0:32:32 --> 0:32:35 made just like said to them to the population, you can buy you 441 0:32:35 --> 0:32:38 can have a mortgage, you can buy your flat from the government 442 0:32:38 --> 0:32:42 for whatever $100,000. You can pay it back on interest free over 443 0:32:42 --> 0:32:46 40 years, they would have monetized the whole economy, they 444 0:32:46 --> 0:32:49 could done anything else. Instead, they were starving. More 445 0:32:49 --> 0:32:55 than 6 million Russians died until Putin came to power. So any 446 0:32:55 --> 0:32:58 advice you guys might might give and you are some of the cleverest 447 0:32:58 --> 0:33:01 guys in the world. I've seen a lot of banksters out there and 448 0:33:01 --> 0:33:03 you guys are way up there among the most clever ones, not the 449 0:33:03 --> 0:33:09 most banksters once. But we no matter what, what advice we might 450 0:33:09 --> 0:33:13 be able to give someone today, it could be totally wrong because 451 0:33:13 --> 0:33:16 we miss one component. And the mafia have always got another 452 0:33:16 --> 0:33:20 component of another crime we haven't thought about. So what I 453 0:33:20 --> 0:33:23 really think we should be focusing on is not how we can 454 0:33:23 --> 0:33:29 survive. We should focus on how the hell can we get rid of the 455 0:33:30 --> 0:33:32 That's what we should be brainstorming about. 456 0:33:34 --> 0:33:38 Excellent, Mats. I spoke to so you weren't so shy as I thought. 457 0:33:39 --> 0:33:43 No, I've seen that side of you before. So you're at your best 458 0:33:43 --> 0:33:46 when you're speaking like that from the heart, Mats. 459 0:33:47 --> 0:33:49 Yeah, I know. Because you all know that I'm saying the right 460 0:33:49 --> 0:33:51 thing. You know, you know, it's right. You know, I'm right. What 461 0:33:51 --> 0:33:54 can you do? I mean, and I know that you don't hate you don't 462 0:33:54 --> 0:33:58 hate people for being wrong. You hate people for being right, 463 0:33:59 --> 0:34:02 especially if events prove you wrong, and them right. Tell me 464 0:34:02 --> 0:34:05 about it. I know all about it. So I know I know that. But at the 465 0:34:05 --> 0:34:08 end of the day, we should we should try to get rid of them. 466 0:34:08 --> 0:34:11 And I think with Gaza now we have a chance now. People are so 467 0:34:11 --> 0:34:16 scared of saying the J word. Now I'm not because my wife is 468 0:34:16 --> 0:34:19 Jewish. So she's even a real one. Sefati, Levi, she's the 469 0:34:19 --> 0:34:22 same name as Moses. So she's actually not an Askenazi. She's 470 0:34:22 --> 0:34:27 a real semi. So they can't it's gonna be hard to call me that, 471 0:34:27 --> 0:34:30 right. But I'm certainly certainly an anti Zionist. And 472 0:34:30 --> 0:34:34 now we have a chance. Because they do they defending the right 473 0:34:34 --> 0:34:37 to defend yourself does not mean that you can break the Geneva 474 0:34:37 --> 0:34:40 Convention. It does not mean you can kill children. It does not 475 0:34:40 --> 0:34:45 mean it. Nowhere does it say if you feel like it, you can break 476 0:34:45 --> 0:34:49 the common human rights, you can break natural law, you can break 477 0:34:49 --> 0:34:53 the Geneva Convention. If, if, if you can make up a phony story 478 0:34:53 --> 0:34:57 about 40, behead babies, which is not true. But if you can make 479 0:34:57 --> 0:34:59 it up, and it looks right, you make a good Hollywood movie about 480 0:34:59 --> 0:35:02 it, and it looks credible, and you can and you can buy all the 481 0:35:02 --> 0:35:06 news agencies in the world, tell the story. And you can you can 482 0:35:06 --> 0:35:09 you can make it credible that maybe someone had done that, then 483 0:35:09 --> 0:35:12 you're allowed to go in and kill 5000 there are right now there 484 0:35:12 --> 0:35:15 are 1000 so I'm a little bit agitated because there are 1000 485 0:35:15 --> 0:35:20 kids in right now in the rubble in Palestine right now. So I'm a 486 0:35:20 --> 0:35:27 little bit agitated because I'm appalled with a lot of freedom 487 0:35:27 --> 0:35:28 fighters. 488 0:35:28 --> 0:35:35 So Matt, so Matt, so Matt, let's I started by saying, anyone who 489 0:35:35 --> 0:35:37 questions what Israel is doing is then accused of being 490 0:35:37 --> 0:35:41 anti semitic. Now, I don't want to go and we're not going to go 491 0:35:41 --> 0:35:45 into analyzing Israel, Palestine, because you go, 492 0:35:45 --> 0:35:51 you're going bigger. Okay, so you say, how do we deal with 493 0:35:51 --> 0:35:54 this? Don't deal with inflation, deflation, you don't know what's 494 0:35:54 --> 0:35:59 going to happen. How do we get rid of the mouth? Let me accept 495 0:35:59 --> 0:36:03 those terms. But the problem, the problem, we have to go for 496 0:36:03 --> 0:36:06 the root of the problem. The root of the problem is that 497 0:36:06 --> 0:36:10 United States are not adhering to to the Geneva Convention, 498 0:36:10 --> 0:36:13 they're not abiding to any international court of law, 499 0:36:13 --> 0:36:17 court of treaties, whatever. They even say out loud, if ever 500 0:36:17 --> 0:36:21 any American soldier commits a war crime, and he's taken to 501 0:36:21 --> 0:36:24 the international court of hate, we're going to bomb that place, 502 0:36:24 --> 0:36:27 we're going to rescue them. Obama said that. Okay, so they 503 0:36:27 --> 0:36:30 stated they don't do it. And the problem is that they have dual 504 0:36:30 --> 0:36:33 citizenship. How can you have a country where the Federal 505 0:36:33 --> 0:36:38 Reserve is run by people who are Israeli and American dual 506 0:36:38 --> 0:36:41 citizens? How can you have a country where they almost their 507 0:36:41 --> 0:36:43 entire Congress, I don't know how many half of them, whatever, 508 0:36:44 --> 0:36:48 are dual citizens? That's a problem. And they do not adhere 509 0:36:48 --> 0:36:52 to the Geneva Convention. One day, it's okay to go in and kill 510 0:36:52 --> 0:36:58 Gaddafi and go into another country's internal affairs, 511 0:36:58 --> 0:37:00 because allegedly he killed his own people. It turned out it was 512 0:37:00 --> 0:37:03 not true. It was a fake rumor started by one person from 513 0:37:03 --> 0:37:07 Amnesty International. It was not true. But then it was okay to 514 0:37:07 --> 0:37:11 go in. Another time in Ukraine, where 15,000 civilians are being 515 0:37:11 --> 0:37:14 murdered by the government, you even have politicians standing on 516 0:37:14 --> 0:37:18 the parliament in Ukraine saying, we will, the Russian 517 0:37:18 --> 0:37:21 speaking kids shall live in basements, because we'll bomb 518 0:37:21 --> 0:37:24 them. And then they bombed them for eight years. And then it's 519 0:37:24 --> 0:37:26 wrong to interfere. So which one is it? Can you interfere in a 520 0:37:26 --> 0:37:30 country's internal or not? And the Americans, they do whatever 521 0:37:30 --> 0:37:34 they please. And they do that because they can play the Holocaust 522 0:37:34 --> 0:37:38 card. They can call you an anti-Semite if you're criticizing 523 0:37:38 --> 0:37:41 them. And then they control the money press so they can also 524 0:37:41 --> 0:37:44 bankrupt you. And that is the problem. And I think we should 525 0:37:44 --> 0:37:48 use the chance we have now, where it's clear for everybody to see 526 0:37:48 --> 0:37:51 what they are. They are genocidal madmen. You have people standing 527 0:37:51 --> 0:37:55 in parliament in Israel saying we should, that the Palestinians 528 0:37:55 --> 0:37:59 are animals, and they should be slaughtered and genocided, all 529 0:37:59 --> 0:38:02 of them. I'm not saying it. There are people who are in 530 0:38:02 --> 0:38:06 parliament who are saying that. And that is not okay. And I 531 0:38:06 --> 0:38:10 don't care what anybody in this group says about that. If anybody 532 0:38:10 --> 0:38:14 says this, that that is okay, they should be thrown out of 533 0:38:14 --> 0:38:15 this group immediately. 534 0:38:16 --> 0:38:21 No, listen, listen, settle down. No one is being thrown out of 535 0:38:21 --> 0:38:25 this group. Number one. Number two, this group has talked for 536 0:38:25 --> 0:38:28 the depopulation agenda that's on it. It's far more than the 537 0:38:28 --> 0:38:33 number of Palestinians of Jim Thorpe. Sorry. Jim Thorpe says 538 0:38:33 --> 0:38:36 50 million people have been killed so far, right by this 539 0:38:36 --> 0:38:41 genocidal cabal. So let's go to who these people are. Who are 540 0:38:41 --> 0:38:44 these people? Because David Webb talks about these people in his 541 0:38:44 --> 0:38:48 book, but doesn't name them. I we've shared charts in this 542 0:38:48 --> 0:38:52 group, about how the global cabal is organized, of who's who 543 0:38:52 --> 0:38:58 these players are. David doesn't name them. Any comments 544 0:38:58 --> 0:38:58 from others? 545 0:39:02 --> 0:39:06 So Matt, I was just thinking, so what you're saying, Matt, to 546 0:39:06 --> 0:39:13 get so we can't plan in times of serious crime, is that right? And 547 0:39:13 --> 0:39:14 actually, that's not the problem anyway. 548 0:39:15 --> 0:39:18 I mean, we should stop, we should stop, you know, throwing 549 0:39:18 --> 0:39:21 water on a fire, we should we should catch the guy who's 550 0:39:21 --> 0:39:26 putting fire on the house. It's that simple. Who is that? Come 551 0:39:26 --> 0:39:30 on. People who are breaking. If you don't adhere to the Geneva 552 0:39:30 --> 0:39:34 Convention, we should all come together against them. If they 553 0:39:34 --> 0:39:36 are Muslims, we should go against them. If they're 554 0:39:36 --> 0:39:37 Americans, we should go against them. 555 0:39:37 --> 0:39:40 Come on. Come on. You want solutions. We should all come 556 0:39:40 --> 0:39:43 together to push back against evil. We're all that's why we're 557 0:39:43 --> 0:39:44 on this group. This group. 558 0:39:44 --> 0:39:47 Exactly. That's my point. Yeah, that's my point. But you are an 559 0:39:47 --> 0:39:48 anti-Semite. 560 0:39:48 --> 0:39:49 But hang on. 561 0:39:51 --> 0:39:53 You should be allowed to kill Palestinian children. 562 0:39:55 --> 0:39:58 Where are we after truth, ethics, justice, freedom and 563 0:39:58 --> 0:40:03 health? It's great to say that's what Dr. Shiva says in his swarm 564 0:40:03 --> 0:40:07 video. So I said at the start, hey, a million of these guys are 565 0:40:07 --> 0:40:12 playing 8000 million of us. So the question is, I agree with 566 0:40:12 --> 0:40:16 Mads, everybody, this is an abundant world. It's an 567 0:40:16 --> 0:40:19 extraordinarily abundant world, unless we're busy killing each 568 0:40:19 --> 0:40:20 other. 569 0:40:22 --> 0:40:23 If I may, 570 0:40:24 --> 0:40:25 Oh, sorry. 571 0:40:27 --> 0:40:32 So I agree with with Mads sentiment. I don't agree with 572 0:40:35 --> 0:40:40 emotional outrage, because, you know, emotional outrage hasn't 573 0:40:40 --> 0:40:45 helped us solve anything. And we've been treated to things 574 0:40:45 --> 0:40:49 that generate emotional outrage for centuries. This is this is 575 0:40:49 --> 0:40:56 not the first episode. I think that, you know, naming who the 576 0:40:56 --> 0:41:01 enemy is, is very difficult by name by individual names. I 577 0:41:01 --> 0:41:06 could try but I think that the guiding principle, to me is 578 0:41:06 --> 0:41:11 something that George Soros said in one of the recent Davos 579 0:41:11 --> 0:41:16 speeches that he gave. And that is, he said very correctly, that 580 0:41:16 --> 0:41:19 the conflict is between two systems of governance. This is a 581 0:41:19 --> 0:41:24 very important thing to keep in mind, two systems of governance. 582 0:41:25 --> 0:41:30 So there's a system. It's not, you know, people say the Jews, 583 0:41:30 --> 0:41:36 the Jesuits, the Freemasons, the Illuminati, that this that, you 584 0:41:36 --> 0:41:39 know, these theories have been going around for decades and 585 0:41:39 --> 0:41:44 centuries. And we never fixed anything by going after labels 586 0:41:44 --> 0:41:46 and groups, including the Jews. 587 0:41:47 --> 0:41:50 So buying gold is good, and farmland is good. That's the 588 0:41:50 --> 0:41:51 solution. 589 0:41:52 --> 0:41:57 Well, no, Mads. But you know, if they if we lose food product, 590 0:41:57 --> 0:42:02 men are free, when they are free, and they have autonomous 591 0:42:02 --> 0:42:07 access to food. If they deprive us of food, then we're not free. 592 0:42:08 --> 0:42:12 James Madison said, power over a man's sustenance is the power 593 0:42:12 --> 0:42:19 over his will. So protecting our own purchasing power, our 594 0:42:19 --> 0:42:23 maneuvering space, our food production, farmland should be 595 0:42:23 --> 0:42:29 regarded as strategically important as a way to overcome 596 0:42:29 --> 0:42:35 this evil. Going out in the street, venting our frustrations 597 0:42:35 --> 0:42:40 and emotions isn't it's been done before. It doesn't work. 598 0:42:40 --> 0:42:41 Totally disagree. 599 0:42:41 --> 0:42:49 Okay, well, I can I can give you centuries worth of track record 600 0:42:49 --> 0:42:54 of this kind of action producing absolutely nothing. London was 601 0:42:54 --> 0:43:01 chock full of demonstrations. In the run up to World War One. The 602 0:43:01 --> 0:43:06 war went on anyway. And millions of people died. People 603 0:43:06 --> 0:43:10 understood what was going on. They protested. 604 0:43:10 --> 0:43:14 Excuse me. We stopped the lawn epidemics in Copenhagen with our 605 0:43:14 --> 0:43:18 pots and pans demonstrations. The Icelandic stopped the 606 0:43:18 --> 0:43:21 Icelandic banksters with their pots and pans. So yeah, so I can 607 0:43:21 --> 0:43:24 give you just two examples right there where it works. And I can 608 0:43:24 --> 0:43:26 assure you it works. 609 0:43:26 --> 0:43:26 Sure. 610 0:43:26 --> 0:43:30 I'm fucking scared right now. Because of all the demonstrations 611 0:43:30 --> 0:43:33 all over the world pro Palestine right now, they are showing the 612 0:43:33 --> 0:43:38 whole world is now being brave enough to talk out against the 613 0:43:38 --> 0:43:41 Zionists. Everybody's so afraid for being called as an anti 614 0:43:41 --> 0:43:44 semi. Everybody's afraid or not being able to have a bank account 615 0:43:44 --> 0:43:48 because the bank manager is sucking up to some Zionists who 616 0:43:48 --> 0:43:52 are controlling the banking system, right? So yes, it does. 617 0:43:52 --> 0:43:55 You have we have to speak out and if more people will speak 618 0:43:55 --> 0:43:57 out, we will get our freedom. But if everybody's sitting on 619 0:43:57 --> 0:44:01 their on their fence and thinking about buying farmland or buying 620 0:44:01 --> 0:44:03 gold, whatever they should buy so that they can survive what 621 0:44:03 --> 0:44:05 everybody else is saying, 622 0:44:05 --> 0:44:13 may I say something? May I say something? Yes. I am so glad to 623 0:44:13 --> 0:44:19 see that has not lost his piss and vinegar. It's great to see. 624 0:44:20 --> 0:44:34 I have been thinking about the same things. It's the fact is, 625 0:44:34 --> 0:44:41 there is no place to hide from this. I've reached that 626 0:44:41 --> 0:44:49 conclusion. You you can't invest your way out of this. You know, 627 0:44:49 --> 0:44:54 and so I'm very reluctant to even talk about it in terms of 628 0:44:54 --> 0:44:58 what you should do. And that's why in the book, I don't go into 629 0:44:58 --> 0:45:02 that. Because it's about something much bigger than that. 630 0:45:03 --> 0:45:09 Ultimately, we have to face up to this. And that's what Mads is 631 0:45:09 --> 0:45:15 talking about. You you know, you really can't you can't make 632 0:45:15 --> 0:45:20 yourself safe. So you know, there's that quote, you know, 633 0:45:20 --> 0:45:24 something like the only thing that is needed for evil to 634 0:45:24 --> 0:45:32 triumph is for good men to do nothing. And by just worrying 635 0:45:32 --> 0:45:36 about how you're going to invest and get safe, you're doing 636 0:45:36 --> 0:45:42 nothing to face up to this. You can't run from this. It's like 637 0:45:42 --> 0:45:47 this friend of mine, you know, I've cited this very intelligent 638 0:45:47 --> 0:45:51 guy, very wealthy. He said, What can we do to protect our 639 0:45:51 --> 0:45:58 investments? Nothing. We just have to stop them. Ultimately, 640 0:45:59 --> 0:46:05 this is the conclusion. And this is what Mads is talking about. 641 0:46:06 --> 0:46:10 You know, years from now, if we live that long, we're going to 642 0:46:10 --> 0:46:15 look back and wish we had used the little freedom we have now 643 0:46:16 --> 0:46:22 to do something. And, you know, of course, as Alex is saying, 644 0:46:22 --> 0:46:26 it's a matter of what what do you do? Of course, you shouldn't 645 0:46:26 --> 0:46:32 do ineffective things. And this is what Mads is saying, it is 646 0:46:32 --> 0:46:38 possible to do effective things and Mads has done them. He 647 0:46:38 --> 0:46:46 personally marshaled the resources and it's hurting cats 648 0:46:46 --> 0:46:52 to get people to cooperate. But he personally back down the 649 0:46:52 --> 0:46:59 pandemic law in Denmark, he personally ended the lockdowns in 650 0:46:59 --> 0:47:03 Denmark, which was the first country to come out of lockdowns 651 0:47:03 --> 0:47:07 and then the whole thing collapsed after that. It is 652 0:47:07 --> 0:47:09 possible to do these things. 653 0:47:12 --> 0:47:14 Steven, sorry to interrupt, I wasn't even supposed to 654 0:47:14 --> 0:47:19 participate. But if it's okay with everyone, if I can have five 655 0:47:19 --> 0:47:23 minutes of everybody's time, I'd like to give my opinion if 656 0:47:23 --> 0:47:25 that's okay. If not, it's not a problem. Just keep listening. 657 0:47:26 --> 0:47:30 So Charles, I did say to Daniel, we spoke earlier that he could 658 0:47:30 --> 0:47:33 join in for a couple of questions. So 659 0:47:33 --> 0:47:37 can I have five minutes? I think I can add something. 660 0:47:37 --> 0:47:40 I've been waiting here patiently. I've been waiting 661 0:47:40 --> 0:47:43 patiently. I just want to know. There are four of us invited to 662 0:47:43 --> 0:47:47 speak here. And I really think if you want to listen to us, 663 0:47:47 --> 0:47:49 fine, I'll go if you don't want to listen to me. 664 0:47:49 --> 0:47:52 Gary, you go ahead. And Daniel, you're out. 665 0:47:52 --> 0:47:53 David wasn't 666 0:47:53 --> 0:47:56 everybody on this call is doing what Mads is requesting. 667 0:47:57 --> 0:48:01 Everybody on this call is working very hard to defeat the 668 0:48:01 --> 0:48:08 criminal cabal that runs this world, right? So don't get upset. 669 0:48:08 --> 0:48:12 Everybody's work I work 25 hours a day, seven days a week on that 670 0:48:12 --> 0:48:17 task. And so does Charles. So Mads, calm down. Calm your anger. 671 0:48:17 --> 0:48:21 We're all on your side. We're all working very hard against the 672 0:48:21 --> 0:48:27 cabal. I would just tell you that the people are slowly, 673 0:48:27 --> 0:48:31 slowly learning who the criminal cabal is very slowly. 674 0:48:31 --> 0:48:33 They are becoming exposed. 675 0:48:34 --> 0:48:37 And that's what we have to do is expose the criminal cabal. 676 0:48:38 --> 0:48:42 Now, people are just slowly learning what's happening. 677 0:48:43 --> 0:48:47 Three years ago, I never heard anyone talk about designers. 678 0:48:47 --> 0:48:51 I never heard anyone talk about the what happened to the Nazis 679 0:48:51 --> 0:48:56 after World War Two. I tried to get people to talk about all of 680 0:48:56 --> 0:48:58 those things. Nobody was interested. 681 0:48:58 --> 0:49:03 Okay, but now I'm hearing these conversations amongst people I'd 682 0:49:03 --> 0:49:07 never would have thought would have considered. My, you know, my 683 0:49:07 --> 0:49:10 relatives are asking me, Jerry, can you explain what's what's 684 0:49:10 --> 0:49:14 happening? Who is behind all of this? They are becoming exposed. 685 0:49:14 --> 0:49:20 We are starting to win. We're definitely winning. So we just 686 0:49:20 --> 0:49:23 have to keep working as individuals doing the best we 687 0:49:23 --> 0:49:28 can. And in isolating these people and changing their 688 0:49:28 --> 0:49:33 approach to running this planet. Now, I, if you have a look at my 689 0:49:33 --> 0:49:37 editorial in my finance newsletter this week, the first 690 0:49:37 --> 0:49:43 thing I start with this week is the story that occurred to the 691 0:49:43 --> 0:49:49 DeWitt brothers in 1672, where the people, Johan DeWitt was a 692 0:49:49 --> 0:49:53 very successful politician. He was running the Netherlands. They 693 0:49:53 --> 0:49:59 had a golden period. Everything was wonderful, economically, or 694 0:49:59 --> 0:50:04 so they say in the history books. But the people rose up. By the 695 0:50:04 --> 0:50:08 way, Johan DeWitt won three elections in a row. Okay, so he 696 0:50:08 --> 0:50:10 was a very successful politician, very successful 697 0:50:10 --> 0:50:14 Prime Minister. But the people, the people rose up, and they 698 0:50:14 --> 0:50:19 tore him apart and his brother apart, and they ate him. They 699 0:50:19 --> 0:50:26 were eaten in the streets. When the people come, be fearful. And 700 0:50:26 --> 0:50:29 in my editorial this week, I said this, I said, there is a 701 0:50:29 --> 0:50:32 lesson here today for all politicians of government, 702 0:50:32 --> 0:50:37 unelected bankers, and unelected officials in globalist NGOs, 703 0:50:38 --> 0:50:42 non government organizations who seek great power, always 704 0:50:42 --> 0:50:48 consider and respect the people, or else. The power is in the 705 0:50:48 --> 0:50:54 people. We are waking the people up. We are starting to win. We 706 0:50:54 --> 0:50:58 are starting to isolate and identify the criminal cabal. I 707 0:50:58 --> 0:51:02 appreciate your anger, but anger is not going to get us there. 708 0:51:02 --> 0:51:07 We've got to organize, we've got to know what we're doing. And all 709 0:51:07 --> 0:51:10 of us are becoming very aware of the task at hand. I don't think 710 0:51:10 --> 0:51:13 there's much doubt about that. So there is an awakening 711 0:51:13 --> 0:51:18 occurring. There is no doubt in my mind. Now, that we, 712 0:51:18 --> 0:51:23 nonetheless, if we finally isolate the criminal cabal, we 713 0:51:23 --> 0:51:26 will still have to have a financial system to run our 714 0:51:26 --> 0:51:31 economies. So it's, it's quite okay to have a discussion about 715 0:51:31 --> 0:51:34 that as well. On top of all this, if we can get through this 716 0:51:34 --> 0:51:38 stage, we could then have a talk about, well, what is the perfect 717 0:51:38 --> 0:51:43 economy and what is the perfect financial system. But everybody is 718 0:51:43 --> 0:51:45 on your side, Mads, nobody's fighting against you. 719 0:51:48 --> 0:51:50 All right. Thank you for that statement. 720 0:51:50 --> 0:51:55 Alex saying something. Sorry, David was saying something and 721 0:51:55 --> 0:51:59 then he got interrupted. I think he never finished. So I just 722 0:52:01 --> 0:52:02 go ahead, David. 723 0:52:02 --> 0:52:13 No, I think I had my say. I just before I came to this call, I was 724 0:52:14 --> 0:52:23 sensing, feeling that we, it's very important to realize that 725 0:52:24 --> 0:52:28 there's no place to hide from this. It's as simple as that. 726 0:52:29 --> 0:52:34 It's as simple as that. There's no place that that is the simple 727 0:52:34 --> 0:52:42 truth. So we, you, we can't, you know, it's not a matter of the 728 0:52:42 --> 0:52:47 things we do or don't do to protect ourselves. And this is 729 0:52:47 --> 0:52:54 Mads frustration is so many people are asleep, of course, but 730 0:52:54 --> 0:52:58 then even people that are waking up to what are happening, what's 731 0:52:58 --> 0:53:02 happening, I get these questions all the time. People saying, well, 732 0:53:02 --> 0:53:05 what should I do then? You know, how am I going to, what should I 733 0:53:05 --> 0:53:10 do with my IRA? You know, these, these questions like this, which 734 0:53:10 --> 0:53:18 is, oh my God, you know, come on, realize what we are facing. So it, 735 0:53:19 --> 0:53:26 and it really isn't for me to tell people specifically what to do. 736 0:53:26 --> 0:53:32 You know, you have to dig down deep to figure out what to do on a 737 0:53:32 --> 0:53:39 personal level, to get through this time to not despair. That's the 738 0:53:39 --> 0:53:44 big thing to not despair. You know, don't do things for financial 739 0:53:44 --> 0:53:50 reasons that are going to destroy your happiness, your family. You 740 0:53:50 --> 0:53:55 know, it's not about finances. You know, this we're dealing with 741 0:53:55 --> 0:54:06 something much bigger than that. So, so it's it, to me, it's about 742 0:54:06 --> 0:54:12 getting awareness. Look, we've all been there where we were the 743 0:54:12 --> 0:54:18 only person in the room that kind of understood what was happening, 744 0:54:18 --> 0:54:22 and there was no one we could talk to. And then you get to the point 745 0:54:22 --> 0:54:25 where there are two, there's somebody else you can talk to, but 746 0:54:25 --> 0:54:28 all the other people in the room don't get it. We have to get to 747 0:54:28 --> 0:54:31 the point where the majority of the people in the room understand. 748 0:54:31 --> 0:54:36 And this is what Jerry is saying, is we're starting to get to the 749 0:54:36 --> 0:54:41 point where the majority of the people in the room are understanding. 750 0:54:41 --> 0:54:49 But but now we have to push that up to the people at the top of the 751 0:54:49 --> 0:54:55 system, especially the support layer that is abetting everything 752 0:54:55 --> 0:55:00 that is happening. All this can just stop. I know it's hard to 753 0:55:00 --> 0:55:04 believe. It's hard to believe. But none of this, they're all 754 0:55:04 --> 0:55:09 constructs. None of it is real. The real world is beautiful. This 755 0:55:09 --> 0:55:14 is what Mads is saying. The real world is abundant. They are 756 0:55:14 --> 0:55:24 creating deprivation. And it is set to go off. They're orchestrating 757 0:55:24 --> 0:55:41 this banking crisis right now. But we mustn't go back to our 758 0:55:41 --> 0:55:48 particular personal. There's a balance here because you have to 759 0:55:48 --> 0:55:54 maintain yourself and take care of your family and your well-being. 760 0:55:54 --> 0:56:07 Of course. But we can't stop. We can't get overly distracted with 761 0:56:07 --> 0:56:12 that because ultimately there will be no place to hide. Even if 762 0:56:12 --> 0:56:16 you've done all the right things, there will be no place to hide 763 0:56:16 --> 0:56:21 from this. So we have to use the time we have while we have any 764 0:56:21 --> 0:56:30 freedom to break this awareness thing. Okay, I'm done. 765 0:56:31 --> 0:56:36 Steve, can I have five minutes or no? Because I got to go. 766 0:56:36 --> 0:56:40 Yeah, I think you can have it now as long as nobody else objects. I 767 0:56:40 --> 0:56:42 mean the guests, Daniel. 768 0:56:44 --> 0:56:47 I'll be very quick. Okay, for those who don't know, I come from 769 0:56:47 --> 0:56:50 the world of military counterintelligence. I'm a former 770 0:56:50 --> 0:56:54 colonel of military counterintelligence. So, the last 771 0:56:54 --> 0:56:59 24 years, I've dedicated a lot of my work to specifically the 772 0:56:59 --> 0:57:03 things that you guys are talking about. The key element here is 773 0:57:03 --> 0:57:09 the element of control. Control system, I guess, of the deep 774 0:57:09 --> 0:57:16 state. And the reality is that every system that we create is 775 0:57:16 --> 0:57:19 an opportunity for those with the greatest power to build more 776 0:57:19 --> 0:57:23 control into the system and more dependence on the system. 777 0:57:24 --> 0:57:27 And so the benefit of each system often comes to the price 778 0:57:27 --> 0:57:31 that relates to control. It's always about control. We have 779 0:57:31 --> 0:57:33 amazing smartphones, everybody has one of these things that 780 0:57:33 --> 0:57:38 gives access to immense amount of information, useful 781 0:57:38 --> 0:57:41 information, instant communication. But also it comes 782 0:57:41 --> 0:57:44 to the price, we have mind control, you have predatory 783 0:57:44 --> 0:57:47 capitalism, we have surveillance. So it's always a 784 0:57:47 --> 0:57:51 double-edged sword. And if you kind of look throughout history, 785 0:57:51 --> 0:57:55 control has been progressively reinvented and reinvented as 786 0:57:55 --> 0:57:58 response to the introduction of new technologies, we're going to 787 0:57:58 --> 0:58:02 go back to the Roman period. And so clearly today with the 788 0:58:02 --> 0:58:05 digital technology, decentralization, that has 789 0:58:05 --> 0:58:10 exploded over the past 20 to 30 years. And it's really has come 790 0:58:10 --> 0:58:12 to this point, if you look at where we're heading, it raises 791 0:58:12 --> 0:58:16 the question about the very existence of human civilization. 792 0:58:16 --> 0:58:19 There's that scene in Matrix, okay, where Morpheus says, the 793 0:58:19 --> 0:58:24 matrix is a system now. And the system is our enemy, but when 794 0:58:24 --> 0:58:28 you're inside, and you look around, what do you see? You see 795 0:58:28 --> 0:58:30 businessmen, you see teachers, you see lawyers, you see 796 0:58:30 --> 0:58:33 carpenters, the very minds of the people we're trying to say, 797 0:58:33 --> 0:58:37 but until we do these people are still part of that system. And 798 0:58:37 --> 0:58:42 that makes them our enemy. And so you have to understand that 799 0:58:42 --> 0:58:45 most of these people, they're not ready to be unplugged, so to 800 0:58:45 --> 0:58:47 speak. And many of them are so, you know, in you are so 801 0:58:47 --> 0:58:51 obviously dependent on the system, that they will do 802 0:58:51 --> 0:58:55 anything of their power to fight you against what's best for them 803 0:58:55 --> 0:59:00 to protect themselves from you, not from the system. And so the 804 0:59:00 --> 0:59:05 first step is to face the fact that we don't know, and we must 805 0:59:05 --> 0:59:10 know when the second step is to have the faith that enough of us 806 0:59:10 --> 0:59:15 people can work together as Matzah said, and as David said, 807 0:59:15 --> 0:59:17 to work together with this positive vision of human 808 0:59:17 --> 0:59:22 civilization, and also human future sufficient so that we can 809 0:59:22 --> 0:59:26 actually figure it out. And someone said, there's, you know, 810 0:59:26 --> 0:59:28 through three years ago, nobody talked about this. Well, a lot 811 0:59:28 --> 0:59:31 of people, you know, talking about this now right now, yes, 812 0:59:31 --> 0:59:35 still not enough. But if we can get enough smart people together 813 0:59:35 --> 0:59:40 to do this, we can indeed figure it out. And so the important 814 0:59:40 --> 0:59:43 thing that we need to know is that this governance system 815 0:59:43 --> 0:59:48 operates and controls by force. And force is the beginning at 816 0:59:48 --> 0:59:53 the end of how it controls forces the bedrock. Okay, it's 817 0:59:53 --> 0:59:58 not it's not software, it's a gun pointing at your head. And 818 0:59:58 --> 1:00:01 it's the ultimate enforcement mechanism, they kill people with 819 1:00:01 --> 1:00:05 impunity, and the people who control do so because they can 820 1:00:05 --> 1:00:09 kill you with absolute impunity as they've killed the president 821 1:00:09 --> 1:00:11 of the United States as I've killed Gaddafi, and they've 822 1:00:11 --> 1:00:15 killed whoever they can kill. That means that they can kill 823 1:00:15 --> 1:00:20 without regard for the law. Because there's absolutely no 824 1:00:20 --> 1:00:24 accountability under our laws in the Western world, and they 825 1:00:24 --> 1:00:28 kill as a result of that. And it's absolutely true that in a 826 1:00:28 --> 1:00:33 Western world force the brute force rarely shows its face, 827 1:00:33 --> 1:00:36 because it's always better and cheaper to use financial, legal, 828 1:00:36 --> 1:00:43 political system to control the people to do the dirty work. And 829 1:00:43 --> 1:00:46 of course, another key of control is this information, 830 1:00:46 --> 1:00:49 fake news, fake science, fake history, fake everything. 831 1:00:50 --> 1:00:53 According to Donald Trump, the you know, World War Two was won 832 1:00:53 --> 1:00:58 by the United States. And so there's this endless number of 833 1:00:58 --> 1:01:02 visible and visible systems used to achieve control these days, 834 1:01:03 --> 1:01:06 and the effectiveness of all these systems. What does it 835 1:01:06 --> 1:01:10 depend on? On the ability to maintain physical force and 836 1:01:10 --> 1:01:14 control. I want to remind you of a quote from Samuel Hulting, he 837 1:01:14 --> 1:01:19 said, the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas 838 1:01:19 --> 1:01:22 and values or religion to which a few members of other 839 1:01:22 --> 1:01:26 civilization were converted by rather by the superiority in 840 1:01:26 --> 1:01:31 applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this, 841 1:01:31 --> 1:01:37 non Westerners never do. And so if you kind of look at how the 842 1:01:37 --> 1:01:40 governing system works, the establishment can and has 843 1:01:40 --> 1:01:43 literally assassinated the presidents in broad daylight. 844 1:01:45 --> 1:01:48 When the establishment wants to go to war, but they can, you 845 1:01:48 --> 1:01:51 know, an engineer false flag operation, killing thousands of 846 1:01:51 --> 1:01:55 Americans beat 9-11 or, you know, the the Gulf of Tonkin is 847 1:01:55 --> 1:01:58 whatever the fuck it is, it doesn't really matter. And when 848 1:01:58 --> 1:02:00 you want to establish gun control, well, you can go out 849 1:02:00 --> 1:02:05 and kill children in schools. I have all these kinds of wars, 850 1:02:05 --> 1:02:11 wars on drugs, wars on whatever, on terror, war on COVID. But 851 1:02:11 --> 1:02:14 again, remember, control always starts with hardware, not 852 1:02:14 --> 1:02:17 software. We've been talking about the world, we live in a 853 1:02:17 --> 1:02:20 world where everybody talks about computers and artificial 854 1:02:20 --> 1:02:25 intelligence. It's not computers. It's grounded in the 855 1:02:25 --> 1:02:27 ability to kill and control physical world. And if you 856 1:02:27 --> 1:02:31 don't believe that, have a look at Goddafi. And of course, the 857 1:02:31 --> 1:02:34 global reserve currency, one of the greatest control mechanisms 858 1:02:34 --> 1:02:37 ever created is controlled by the people who control the 859 1:02:37 --> 1:02:40 physical flows of information, they control the physical flow 860 1:02:40 --> 1:02:45 of trade, analog, not digital. They control the ceiling, they 861 1:02:45 --> 1:02:49 control the cables on the ocean's floor. They control the 862 1:02:49 --> 1:02:53 satellites, they control the drones that fly above them. They 863 1:02:53 --> 1:02:56 control the physical force and the means to produce the 864 1:02:56 --> 1:03:00 physical force necessary to protect and maintain these hard 865 1:03:00 --> 1:03:05 assets. Because this control gives them the ability to apply 866 1:03:05 --> 1:03:10 financial sanctions to countries that depend on access to what to 867 1:03:10 --> 1:03:14 this flow of trade. And again, I repeat, it depends on physical 868 1:03:14 --> 1:03:18 force. But physical force is not an effective control mechanism, 869 1:03:18 --> 1:03:24 because it's very expensive. And it scares the living bejesus out 870 1:03:24 --> 1:03:28 of the herd, and it inspires vengeance, which is why the most 871 1:03:28 --> 1:03:35 effective and economic control system is mind control. And if 872 1:03:35 --> 1:03:39 you have your own mind, then you can navigate the road ahead. If 873 1:03:39 --> 1:03:42 you don't control your own mind, you believe all the shit they 874 1:03:42 --> 1:03:44 tell you around you, the media, the business environment, 875 1:03:44 --> 1:03:46 political level. 876 1:03:46 --> 1:03:51 Daniel, can I ask you, can I ask you a question? Yeah, this is an 877 1:03:51 --> 1:03:57 idea I've been working with, that we have actually reached a 878 1:03:57 --> 1:04:03 major turning point in human history. I accept everything 879 1:04:03 --> 1:04:09 you're saying. But is it possible that they have now 880 1:04:09 --> 1:04:20 reached kind of an ultimate point, where by it's the sin of 881 1:04:20 --> 1:04:25 hubris reaching a point where they were going for total control 882 1:04:25 --> 1:04:34 of all people globally, that this results in a collapse of their 883 1:04:34 --> 1:04:40 power, because divide and rule no longer works. If you're going 884 1:04:40 --> 1:04:46 to injure all people, all the way to the top of the system, 885 1:04:46 --> 1:04:51 under this insane logic that they must control everyone 886 1:04:51 --> 1:04:56 everywhere, divide and rule collapses for perhaps the first 887 1:04:56 --> 1:05:01 time. We know, we know people don't care if someone else is 888 1:05:01 --> 1:05:05 having white phosphorus dubbed on them. You know, they, they 889 1:05:05 --> 1:05:12 don't. It's very sad, but it's true. But if everyone is being 890 1:05:12 --> 1:05:18 injured at the same time, and that awareness can be grown, 891 1:05:19 --> 1:05:21 that we're at a turning point. 892 1:05:21 --> 1:05:25 We're absolutely at a turning point, David. But there's first 893 1:05:25 --> 1:05:27 of all, the problem for them right now for the elite is they 894 1:05:27 --> 1:05:31 don't have the language to explain what's coming, you know, 895 1:05:31 --> 1:05:33 around the bend. Language, I don't mean English or Spanish or 896 1:05:33 --> 1:05:37 Russian, or Indian or Hindu. I mean, the language of the 897 1:05:37 --> 1:05:40 economy, they don't have that they can't explain, because 898 1:05:40 --> 1:05:42 what's happening right now is only happened twice in the 899 1:05:42 --> 1:05:45 history of mankind. The first time between the fourth and the 900 1:05:45 --> 1:05:48 sixth century, when the old Roman Empire collapsed and 901 1:05:48 --> 1:05:51 feudalism came about, and that thousand years later, between 902 1:05:51 --> 1:05:56 the 16th and 17th centuries, when feudalism collapsed and 903 1:05:56 --> 1:05:59 modern capitalism, which today is on its deathbed came around. 904 1:05:59 --> 1:06:02 So they don't have the language for the first time in history to 905 1:06:02 --> 1:06:06 explain something which is happening too fast for them to 906 1:06:06 --> 1:06:11 respond to. And so we do have a role to play in this. But there 907 1:06:11 --> 1:06:13 are several things we need to do speaking of solutions. One of 908 1:06:13 --> 1:06:17 them is responsibility, which means that you are responsible 909 1:06:17 --> 1:06:21 for you and it all starts with you. And after responsibility 910 1:06:21 --> 1:06:25 comes integrity. So once you take responsibility, you have 911 1:06:25 --> 1:06:29 to be absolutely ruthless about who you're associated with. And 912 1:06:29 --> 1:06:32 so in this kind of an environment, with increasing 913 1:06:32 --> 1:06:35 lawlessness and increasing corruption globally, many things 914 1:06:35 --> 1:06:38 are changing at once. So there's a lot of disruptions. 915 1:06:39 --> 1:06:43 So then you have to kind of associate to the extent possible 916 1:06:43 --> 1:06:46 with people who have integrity. That means that they're both 917 1:06:46 --> 1:06:50 competent and they're moral. And make sure you know, you 918 1:06:50 --> 1:06:53 encourage your friends and associates to do the absolutely 919 1:06:53 --> 1:06:57 the same thing, because it takes one incompetent or untrustworthy 920 1:06:57 --> 1:07:01 person to destroy, you know, the time and energy you've put into 921 1:07:01 --> 1:07:06 building a community. And I'm always shocked. Okay, when 922 1:07:06 --> 1:07:08 someone says that, you know, for example, they're still banking 923 1:07:08 --> 1:07:13 with HSBC, or Citibank or Coords Bank, there's a phrase, a crime 924 1:07:13 --> 1:07:17 that pays is a crime that stays. Okay, you invest in companies 925 1:07:17 --> 1:07:20 that sell goods that kill people, you're contributing to 926 1:07:20 --> 1:07:23 their well being, which means they're working against you. And 927 1:07:23 --> 1:07:27 they have no reason to change the model. So, for example, 928 1:07:27 --> 1:07:30 speaking of the banking, you have all these wonderful banks, 929 1:07:30 --> 1:07:34 hardworking, honest, local, which are investing in local 930 1:07:34 --> 1:07:37 economies, there's no reason to have, you know, your money in 931 1:07:37 --> 1:07:42 big banks. Why do people think that you're having your money in 932 1:07:42 --> 1:07:48 HSBC or Chase Bank bank is safe? You know, and the other thing, 933 1:07:48 --> 1:07:50 again, if you look at the population, it's between the 934 1:07:50 --> 1:07:54 people who are willing to deal with reality and want to make 935 1:07:54 --> 1:07:58 real changes, which is why I suppose this group is all about 936 1:07:58 --> 1:08:02 and people who don't. And I think it's very important that 937 1:08:02 --> 1:08:06 we focus time and associations on the people who are eager to 938 1:08:06 --> 1:08:09 understand what's happening. And sometimes they may ask 939 1:08:09 --> 1:08:12 impertinent questions, sometimes may take them a while to 940 1:08:12 --> 1:08:15 actually figure things out in their own way doesn't matter. 941 1:08:16 --> 1:08:18 Okay, they've taken the first right step, they want to do 942 1:08:18 --> 1:08:22 good, which is obviously the counter opposite of what these 943 1:08:22 --> 1:08:26 people want to do. So the world is changing, obviously. And we 944 1:08:26 --> 1:08:28 don't have the time to bring a lot of people who, you know, who 945 1:08:28 --> 1:08:31 want to argue with you about stupid shit that has nothing to 946 1:08:31 --> 1:08:34 do with the changes, who want to convince you that Prime Minister 947 1:08:34 --> 1:08:37 Trudeau is a good guy, and he thinks of his Canadians because 948 1:08:37 --> 1:08:42 before he goes to bed, let them be. We must focus our attention 949 1:08:42 --> 1:08:46 because we have no time as much as possible on people who want to 950 1:08:46 --> 1:08:50 join what we're working towards. And then we have to enforce the 951 1:08:50 --> 1:08:53 law. Because we're coming to this inflection point. And our 952 1:08:53 --> 1:08:57 big problem is that, you know, we are financing these control 953 1:08:57 --> 1:09:01 systems. And if you finance people to control and destroy 954 1:09:01 --> 1:09:03 you, well, then you know, they're going to destroy and 955 1:09:03 --> 1:09:06 control you. And that is the question, that is something the 956 1:09:06 --> 1:09:09 reality you have to grapple with, you know, each of us in 957 1:09:09 --> 1:09:13 our own way. And we have to be as individual communities. 958 1:09:13 --> 1:09:19 Okay, but we're back. I mean, we're back to talking about 959 1:09:19 --> 1:09:26 small personal issues, which is, I mean, of course, it's 960 1:09:26 --> 1:09:33 important that we don't despair and we have, we can get through 961 1:09:33 --> 1:09:43 this. But the big issue is backing this down. And because 962 1:09:43 --> 1:09:48 ultimately, if it you know, the longer this runs, you know, the 963 1:09:48 --> 1:09:51 worse it's going to be for everybody and you and you can't 964 1:09:51 --> 1:09:57 on a personal level deal with it. It we're, we're it is, it is a 965 1:09:57 --> 1:10:08 matter of we can't shrink from figuring out how to how to 966 1:10:08 --> 1:10:14 diffuse this on a big scale. There's no alternative. And I'm 967 1:10:14 --> 1:10:18 going back to what you were just saying, they, the quote unquote, 968 1:10:18 --> 1:10:23 they don't even have an idea of what is going to happen after 969 1:10:23 --> 1:10:28 this. You can just see that they're struggling themselves. 970 1:10:30 --> 1:10:35 They they don't really have a clue of what is about to happen. 971 1:10:36 --> 1:10:43 And that that is kind of my big point is they have come to this 972 1:10:43 --> 1:10:48 point that none of us, including the people at the top of the 973 1:10:48 --> 1:10:55 system should should want to have this thing go off, because it 974 1:10:55 --> 1:11:00 is going to be bad for everyone. And then cycling back to what 975 1:11:00 --> 1:11:05 Mads is saying, the real world is just fine. This is all being 976 1:11:05 --> 1:11:09 made to happen. All the wars are being made to happen. We know 977 1:11:09 --> 1:11:12 what has just happened in Israel is being made to happen. What 978 1:11:12 --> 1:11:17 happened in Ukraine was being made to happen. The the banking 979 1:11:17 --> 1:11:21 failures that are about to happen are all being made to 980 1:11:21 --> 1:11:26 happen. And every everything would be fine. I have this image 981 1:11:26 --> 1:11:31 of all the bumper cars on the you know, the amusement park, you 982 1:11:31 --> 1:11:35 know, ride where you drive the cars around. And if the juice 983 1:11:35 --> 1:11:39 stops, you know, to the cars, everybody just gets out of the 984 1:11:39 --> 1:11:52 cars, you know, everything's fine. And it's, it's we we, we 985 1:11:54 --> 1:12:04 we need to help. We need to help even the people at the top of 986 1:12:04 --> 1:12:10 this system. I know Mads Mads is a fighter, you know, he's going 987 1:12:10 --> 1:12:17 to take things on. And I respect that. And these focused actions 988 1:12:17 --> 1:12:25 are very important. But ultimately, we have to just 989 1:12:25 --> 1:12:30 expand this awareness that what is happening is, it's very 990 1:12:30 --> 1:12:35 simple. It's a stupid idea that they're running. I know, I know 991 1:12:35 --> 1:12:40 what you're saying that it's, it's, I mean, it's frightening 992 1:12:40 --> 1:12:46 what you're saying about the use of violence. We see it, we're 993 1:12:47 --> 1:12:53 and I think there is this layer of people in the structure. 994 1:12:54 --> 1:12:58 They're killers, they're criminal. But those are not the 995 1:12:58 --> 1:13:03 people that are actually at the top of the system. They're 996 1:13:03 --> 1:13:15 people that are in all of the military, intelligence, all the 997 1:13:15 --> 1:13:21 all the operations. And once the funding to them stops, it stops, 998 1:13:21 --> 1:13:22 like the bumper cars. 999 1:13:23 --> 1:13:30 Yeah, so thank you, David. Sorry, so I can't decide. So Jerry, do 1000 1:13:30 --> 1:13:33 you want to speak and Alex, I think and maybe Matt's again. 1001 1:13:34 --> 1:13:39 Daniel, can we just get their comments of what you've said? 1002 1:13:40 --> 1:13:40 Jerry first. 1003 1:13:41 --> 1:13:47 Yeah, I'll tell you things. Look, it's not a secret. The 1004 1:13:48 --> 1:13:53 criminal cabal are seeking to achieve two things, as David 1005 1:13:53 --> 1:13:56 pretty much talked about number one, they're seeking to achieve 1006 1:13:56 --> 1:14:00 immortality through transhumanist technology. 1007 1:14:01 --> 1:14:04 They are seeking to enslave and control every other person on 1008 1:14:04 --> 1:14:08 the planet. What's hard to understand about these two things, 1009 1:14:08 --> 1:14:14 this is their aim. Right? Now, three years ago, let alone 1010 1:14:14 --> 1:14:18 knowing what the aims of this group were, 99% of people didn't 1011 1:14:18 --> 1:14:23 even know they existed. They're all starting to realize that they 1012 1:14:23 --> 1:14:26 do exist, that there is an evil criminal cabal who's seeking to 1013 1:14:26 --> 1:14:32 control them and seeking to seeking their own immortality and 1014 1:14:32 --> 1:14:38 some sort of ruling or be the ruling class basis. Now, David is 1015 1:14:38 --> 1:14:44 correct. It is a really dumb plan. Really stupid. I mean, 1016 1:14:44 --> 1:14:48 number one, technology, we're nowhere near technology that can 1017 1:14:48 --> 1:14:52 keep a human being alive. It's impossible. Right? It's an 1018 1:14:52 --> 1:14:56 impossible dream. How stupid is that? And number two, why would 1019 1:14:56 --> 1:15:01 you want to control all the people? How dumb is that? These 1020 1:15:01 --> 1:15:05 people are idiots. They're complete idiots. And we have to 1021 1:15:05 --> 1:15:10 make this plan to everybody on the planet, how stupid they are. 1022 1:15:11 --> 1:15:16 And when we when that happens, people will start to demand 1023 1:15:16 --> 1:15:21 their arrest. People will say, I want this man arrested, and 1024 1:15:21 --> 1:15:24 they'll stand in front of the parliament and I'll demand it in 1025 1:15:24 --> 1:15:29 their millions. And then he will be arrested and we all know who 1026 1:15:29 --> 1:15:33 these men are, right? And no secret really. And that's when 1027 1:15:33 --> 1:15:37 everything will start changing. But when it all changes, we'll 1028 1:15:37 --> 1:15:40 still have to have a financial system to run our economy. So we 1029 1:15:40 --> 1:15:43 could have a pleasant conversation about that as well, 1030 1:15:43 --> 1:15:46 if we want to, or we can carry on with this political discourse. 1031 1:15:46 --> 1:15:50 I don't mind either way. But the fact is, it's David is it 1032 1:15:50 --> 1:15:54 correct? It's stupid. It's dumb. They're idiots. They're 1033 1:15:54 --> 1:15:58 psychopaths. They only think about themselves and nobody 1034 1:15:58 --> 1:16:01 else. And we have to eventually get to the point where millions 1035 1:16:01 --> 1:16:05 of people are standing in front of their politicians saying, we 1036 1:16:05 --> 1:16:11 want these men arrested and tried for their crimes. And if 1037 1:16:11 --> 1:16:14 you don't, we'll come into that parliament and we will tear you 1038 1:16:14 --> 1:16:22 apart and eat you like we did in 1672 in the Netherlands. We've 1039 1:16:22 --> 1:16:25 got to get to that's where we've got to get to. We've got to get 1040 1:16:25 --> 1:16:30 the people to demand change and it will come. We're getting 1041 1:16:31 --> 1:16:34 there. We are actually winning. There's no doubt in my mind, 1042 1:16:34 --> 1:16:38 we're winning. And we've just got to keep working hard every 1043 1:16:38 --> 1:16:43 day. I work 25 hours a day, seven days a week, I have done 1044 1:16:43 --> 1:16:48 three years, my, my pay scale is a very big round number. And I 1045 1:16:48 --> 1:16:50 know that most people, many people on this call are the 1046 1:16:50 --> 1:16:54 same. They're working tirelessly to achieve this. And we've got 1047 1:16:54 --> 1:16:59 to just keep working. And I tell everybody this, just do what you 1048 1:16:59 --> 1:17:03 can do as a person personally, and walk into the bathroom every 1049 1:17:03 --> 1:17:07 morning and look in the mirror and find your leader is the 1050 1:17:07 --> 1:17:11 leaders in the mirror, you have to live with yourself at the end 1051 1:17:11 --> 1:17:14 of all of this. And you have to feel that you've morally 1052 1:17:14 --> 1:17:19 satisfied your your responsibility to your families 1053 1:17:19 --> 1:17:23 and people around you your nation. This is not an easy 1054 1:17:23 --> 1:17:28 task. We're at the very beginning of this struggle. I 1055 1:17:28 --> 1:17:32 say 10 to 30 years struggle. We're just scratching the 1056 1:17:32 --> 1:17:37 surface, but we're starting to win. That's my excellent 1057 1:17:37 --> 1:17:38 speech. 1058 1:17:38 --> 1:17:41 Jerry, thank you. Alex, do you want to say something? 1059 1:17:42 --> 1:17:46 I would I would I would like to go back to Charles's original 1060 1:17:46 --> 1:17:51 question. And I will reassert my answer. So Charles, you sold 1061 1:17:51 --> 1:17:57 your house, you got 200,000 bucks. You should buy some 1062 1:17:57 --> 1:18:01 gold and silver. You should buy some farmland. And somebody 1063 1:18:01 --> 1:18:05 mentioned in the chat something about guns. And then Daniel came 1064 1:18:05 --> 1:18:10 in and Daniel reaffirmed and buy some guns. And now since we you 1065 1:18:10 --> 1:18:13 know, since we're no longer talking about personal issues, 1066 1:18:13 --> 1:18:17 but systemic issues, I will explain why this is still 1067 1:18:17 --> 1:18:24 extremely important and valid. Because, you know, if everybody, 1068 1:18:25 --> 1:18:29 every last person poured out into the street to protest and 1069 1:18:29 --> 1:18:34 demand this and that change. Some of the changes will happen, 1070 1:18:34 --> 1:18:39 but guess what people will get hungry and thirsty. If you have 1071 1:18:39 --> 1:18:43 farmland, and you're raising your chickens, and maybe your 1072 1:18:43 --> 1:18:46 neighbor is raising goats and making goat cheese, and that the 1073 1:18:46 --> 1:18:50 other neighbor has potatoes and so on. If they froze everybody 1074 1:18:50 --> 1:18:54 else's accounts, bank accounts, people will still be able to 1075 1:18:54 --> 1:18:59 exchange food and favors. If people had some silver and gold, 1076 1:19:00 --> 1:19:05 they would be able to spawn gray and black markets. Guess what? 1077 1:19:05 --> 1:19:10 We just built a parallel system over which they have no control. 1078 1:19:11 --> 1:19:16 Something about gray and black markets is extremely powerful. 1079 1:19:17 --> 1:19:23 Because they evolve spontaneously as real true free 1080 1:19:23 --> 1:19:29 markets. A they become very attractive for people buying 1081 1:19:29 --> 1:19:32 stuff because they're cheap. Because you don't pay 1082 1:19:32 --> 1:19:36 transaction taxes, you don't pay income taxes, you don't pay any 1083 1:19:36 --> 1:19:40 kind of taxes. B they become extremely attractive to 1084 1:19:40 --> 1:19:46 entrepreneurs. Because they get to make profits and don't pay 1085 1:19:46 --> 1:19:52 taxes to the government. So you have created a system to ditch 1086 1:19:53 --> 1:20:00 the system. If you look at Argentina, which used to be a 1087 1:20:00 --> 1:20:06 military dictatorship, today 40% of Argentina's GDP is 1088 1:20:06 --> 1:20:12 conducted on a black market. In Venezuela, it's more than 50% of 1089 1:20:12 --> 1:20:16 the GDP. I think it's about 60% of the GDP is conducted on black 1090 1:20:16 --> 1:20:21 markets. It is not because the governments like that. It's 1091 1:20:21 --> 1:20:25 because they have no control over it. They cannot put that 1092 1:20:25 --> 1:20:28 genie back into the bottle because it's too big. It's too 1093 1:20:28 --> 1:20:32 important to the people. And if you talk to people who live in 1094 1:20:32 --> 1:20:34 Argentina, you can buy everything and anything on the 1095 1:20:34 --> 1:20:39 black market. So it solves people's existential problems 1096 1:20:39 --> 1:20:47 and it disempowers the system. So you know, here in Croatia, 1097 1:20:47 --> 1:20:52 we're losing food production, because the system is going 1098 1:20:52 --> 1:20:59 around inventing these diseases and it kills people's pigs. They 1099 1:20:59 --> 1:21:03 invented some African swine plague, and they've destroyed 1100 1:21:03 --> 1:21:09 people's swine pig. So it's going to be really important 1101 1:21:09 --> 1:21:13 for the people who can, who have the legal tender to convert 1102 1:21:13 --> 1:21:19 that legal tender into farmland and gold and silver and guns to 1103 1:21:19 --> 1:21:23 be able to create the parallel systems. We're not going to be 1104 1:21:23 --> 1:21:26 able to change and reform the system that's in place. It's too 1105 1:21:26 --> 1:21:30 ossified. It's too deeply entrenched. And it does use 1106 1:21:30 --> 1:21:34 violence indiscriminately and without any scruple and without 1107 1:21:34 --> 1:21:40 any control against us. Mads mentioned the success of the 1108 1:21:40 --> 1:21:43 Icelanders with the demonstration to throw over 1109 1:21:44 --> 1:21:47 through all the government of the bankers there. That was great. 1110 1:21:47 --> 1:21:52 But then they fell right into the lockdowns. And now they're 1111 1:21:52 --> 1:21:56 one of the most, most highly vaccinated populations in the 1112 1:21:56 --> 1:22:02 world. So they, they, they solved one problem, and then they 1113 1:22:02 --> 1:22:06 fell into the next one, because they didn't create a parallel 1114 1:22:06 --> 1:22:12 system. So there, you know, on a personal level, you need, you 1115 1:22:12 --> 1:22:15 need maneuvering space, and you need to have choices when your 1116 1:22:15 --> 1:22:18 bank account is blocked, and there's no food in the 1117 1:22:18 --> 1:22:22 supermarkets, unless you're compliant with everything. And 1118 1:22:22 --> 1:22:26 B, when people have maneuvering space individually, then they 1119 1:22:26 --> 1:22:32 can create parallel systems that completely disempower the, the, 1120 1:22:32 --> 1:22:37 you know, the, the, the matrix that is that is oppressing us. 1121 1:22:38 --> 1:22:40 That's, that's that done. 1122 1:22:41 --> 1:22:46 Well said, Alex, thank you. Now. Now we've got some hands up. We're 1123 1:22:46 --> 1:22:50 gonna have an hour and a half. Wonderful. And Matt's gonna come 1124 1:22:50 --> 1:22:50 hang on, Steve. 1125 1:22:50 --> 1:22:52 Charles, can we let Mads have a say? 1126 1:22:52 --> 1:22:59 No, hang on. I'm saying I'm saying something. Yeah. Now. Now, 1127 1:23:00 --> 1:23:03 the comment has been made by a number of people about person. I 1128 1:23:03 --> 1:23:06 like what Daniel said about personal responsibility, what 1129 1:23:06 --> 1:23:11 Alex said personal. And Jerry said, we're all doing stuff. And 1130 1:23:12 --> 1:23:15 I remind you of what Buckminster Fuller said, that each one of us 1131 1:23:15 --> 1:23:23 on this call, you have to do what you uniquely see needs to be 1132 1:23:23 --> 1:23:27 done. That's what you have to do. As Jerry said, you look in the 1133 1:23:27 --> 1:23:34 mirror, Mads is looking in the mirror, he's taken steps. And 1134 1:23:34 --> 1:23:39 there are there are as a law as a former lawyer, now as a legal 1135 1:23:39 --> 1:23:44 strategist, there are steps that we can take. And one thought I 1136 1:23:44 --> 1:23:52 want to share with you all is this question of do you take a 1137 1:23:52 --> 1:23:56 defensive mindset or an attacking mindset? And that's 1138 1:23:56 --> 1:23:59 what this conversation is around, around the sale of a 1139 1:23:59 --> 1:24:04 house or what you do with your current assets. And, and that is 1140 1:24:04 --> 1:24:08 a deeply personal, was it Alex said, or anyway, it's deeply 1141 1:24:08 --> 1:24:11 personal, if you've got $2 million, or if you've got a 1142 1:24:11 --> 1:24:17 house, why wouldn't you fund action against the cabal? Why 1143 1:24:17 --> 1:24:22 wouldn't you invest half your assets in a string of legal 1144 1:24:22 --> 1:24:26 cases? Why wouldn't you do that? Because you I hear on this call 1145 1:24:26 --> 1:24:29 people complaining and I complain about lawyers not doing 1146 1:24:29 --> 1:24:32 anything because I'll only do it for money. Good. Well, if 1147 1:24:32 --> 1:24:36 you've got money, get lawyers to do stuff. You say lawyers are 1148 1:24:36 --> 1:24:40 a waste of time. If you want guns, buy guns, give guns to 1149 1:24:40 --> 1:24:45 people. So, so do your own thinking as Daniel Estreland 1150 1:24:45 --> 1:24:50 says, I say take responsibility, stop whinging that nothing's 1151 1:24:50 --> 1:24:53 happening. Do something, create a movement as mads did, I think 1152 1:24:53 --> 1:24:57 with the hitting of the tin of the pots, mads, you know, 1153 1:24:57 --> 1:25:03 that's what the universe what God demands of each one of us. 1154 1:25:03 --> 1:25:08 So mads comment and then we're going to go to questions soon. 1155 1:25:08 --> 1:25:09 But I love the comments. 1156 1:25:10 --> 1:25:15 Okay, a comment. Yeah, so I think, I think it was a lot of 1157 1:25:15 --> 1:25:17 very, very good comments from everybody. So I really like the 1158 1:25:17 --> 1:25:22 way that this meeting has turned out. I really enjoy that. 1159 1:25:22 --> 1:25:25 And and what it was I want to say now I'm going to be like 1160 1:25:25 --> 1:25:33 Stephen Frost. But but I had a comment. I'll come back with that 1161 1:25:33 --> 1:25:35 when I come back to me. So let's just go to the questions. That's 1162 1:25:35 --> 1:25:35 fine. 1163 1:25:36 --> 1:25:36 Excellent. 1164 1:25:38 --> 1:25:41 Stephen, so should we go to questions? Stephen, you got a 1165 1:25:41 --> 1:25:43 couple of questions. We've got an hour of questions. I think we 1166 1:25:43 --> 1:25:46 get some great questions from people on this call. Stephen, 1167 1:25:46 --> 1:25:48 you want to start with questions and then we'll 1168 1:25:49 --> 1:25:53 let someone else speak. I haven't got any particular 1169 1:25:53 --> 1:25:56 questions at the moment. So I was kind of listening to all 1170 1:25:56 --> 1:26:02 these comments from these great minds and and as usual, I find 1171 1:26:02 --> 1:26:06 myself agreeing with whoever's speaking and so but they're not 1172 1:26:06 --> 1:26:08 saying the same things but actually they're getting closer. 1173 1:26:09 --> 1:26:13 That's a great, very good line. Lou, let's go with you Lou, 1174 1:26:13 --> 1:26:16 Mark and Jim and John and Glenn. We've got plenty of hands up. 1175 1:26:16 --> 1:26:25 Let's go. You're on mute, Lou. Lou, you're on mute. 1176 1:26:28 --> 1:26:32 Unmute. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, it's so good to hear me 1177 1:26:32 --> 1:26:36 speaking now. I've got to tell you. Good comments from 1178 1:26:36 --> 1:26:43 everybody. Yes. And and and and it's not either or existentialism 1179 1:26:43 --> 1:26:47 was mentioned earlier. I studied Kierkegaard's works, 1180 1:26:47 --> 1:26:51 either or and others and and consider myself a Christian 1181 1:26:51 --> 1:26:58 existentialist if such a thing exists. And and so it's and and 1182 1:26:58 --> 1:27:04 both. And and and and you know what we know that the the 1183 1:27:04 --> 1:27:10 powers that be will will infiltrate and will subvert our 1184 1:27:10 --> 1:27:13 efforts to change because while change is the one certainty, 1185 1:27:13 --> 1:27:16 it's also the thing most difficult for us as individuals 1186 1:27:17 --> 1:27:20 because we get in comfort zones. We've got our physiological 1187 1:27:20 --> 1:27:22 needs met for food, clothing and shelter. We've got our 1188 1:27:22 --> 1:27:26 psychological needs, especially with our with our wives and 1189 1:27:26 --> 1:27:30 daughters and our sisters to feel safe and secure. And only 1190 1:27:30 --> 1:27:34 then only then, you know, Bertolt Brecht said food first, 1191 1:27:34 --> 1:27:38 then morals. So morals are related to our higher order 1192 1:27:38 --> 1:27:42 needs that Abraham Maslow identified for us, belongingness 1193 1:27:42 --> 1:27:46 needs as we're meeting here. Thanks to you and Stephen. 1194 1:27:46 --> 1:27:50 Thank you so much again. And Tom Rodman as well. And then 1195 1:27:50 --> 1:27:54 self actualization, like, you know, listening is more 1196 1:27:54 --> 1:27:59 important than talking. And that's why I talk so I can really 1197 1:27:59 --> 1:28:02 listen to myself now. I'm really feeling like I'm self actualizing 1198 1:28:02 --> 1:28:03 right now. Thank you. 1199 1:28:05 --> 1:28:06 Well said. 1200 1:28:06 --> 1:28:08 Okay, I remember my short comment I wanted to say if I 1201 1:28:08 --> 1:28:09 can, Charles. 1202 1:28:10 --> 1:28:11 Yep, yeah, man. 1203 1:28:13 --> 1:28:16 No, I just wanted to say that these last eight years where I've 1204 1:28:16 --> 1:28:19 been fighting literally on the streets and with videos and 1205 1:28:19 --> 1:28:22 the newsletters and notices of liabilities and talking to 1206 1:28:22 --> 1:28:25 people making conferences and everything. There's one thing 1207 1:28:25 --> 1:28:28 that I want to say that is a little bit counterintuitive. And 1208 1:28:28 --> 1:28:32 that is the people in the system are really, really good. 1209 1:28:33 --> 1:28:37 Surprisingly, in Denmark, the police meet me with a big smile, 1210 1:28:38 --> 1:28:41 a lot of help, very helpfulness. And when I make a demonstration 1211 1:28:41 --> 1:28:44 in front of the health authorities, they come out and 1212 1:28:44 --> 1:28:50 talk to me. And and and yes, we meet, you know, in your face, I 1213 1:28:50 --> 1:28:52 mean, I'm saying that they are doing something wrong and they 1214 1:28:52 --> 1:28:56 come on, they show we are it's a confrontation, we then work on 1215 1:28:56 --> 1:28:58 them, we send them emails with a lot of information and they, 1216 1:28:58 --> 1:29:04 they actually listen. I will say the following statement. People 1217 1:29:04 --> 1:29:07 in the system, they are good people, they want to do the 1218 1:29:07 --> 1:29:11 right thing. So it works to demonstrate it works to write 1219 1:29:11 --> 1:29:14 notices of liabilities, it works to write letters to them, they 1220 1:29:14 --> 1:29:19 listen to us. And I can say from personal experience, what I also 1221 1:29:19 --> 1:29:23 can say to my big surprise is just because someone goes into a 1222 1:29:23 --> 1:29:26 group of freedom fighters, and for a couple of weeks says the 1223 1:29:26 --> 1:29:29 right things, does not mean they're not a saboteur who wants 1224 1:29:29 --> 1:29:33 to destroy you and the group. Now that I also have a lot of 1225 1:29:33 --> 1:29:39 experience in. If I can say 99% of what people have been 1226 1:29:39 --> 1:29:42 fighting against me has been people in either infiltrating my 1227 1:29:42 --> 1:29:46 own groups I have started and parties or other freedom groups. 1228 1:29:46 --> 1:29:50 And I would say not I don't want to say a lot of help from people 1229 1:29:50 --> 1:29:53 in the system. And that is counterintuitive. But that 1230 1:29:53 --> 1:29:56 proves that it that that that they are fighting us and they 1231 1:29:56 --> 1:30:00 have big pockets, they fight us with deception, and with 1232 1:30:00 --> 1:30:03 infiltration. They've done this for hundreds of years, hundreds 1233 1:30:03 --> 1:30:08 of years. And it also proves that that the evil bastards, 1234 1:30:08 --> 1:30:11 everything is compartmentalized, people don't know people in the 1235 1:30:11 --> 1:30:13 system don't know that the vaccines are supposed to kill a 1236 1:30:13 --> 1:30:15 lot of people, they don't know about it. They honestly believe 1237 1:30:15 --> 1:30:18 that they're doing the right thing. And this is something 1238 1:30:18 --> 1:30:21 that that is my experience, which I did not expect I will 1239 1:30:21 --> 1:30:24 sit and say here eight years later. Thank you. 1240 1:30:25 --> 1:30:28 Thank you, meds. Thank you. Lou Mark Steele. 1241 1:30:30 --> 1:30:34 Fantastic to see the passion. Really good. One of the best 1242 1:30:35 --> 1:30:38 talks we've had open now I like to see people getting a bit 1243 1:30:38 --> 1:30:44 excited. It was a very good lot of very good information being 1244 1:30:44 --> 1:30:49 put out. What I want is what I'd like to say is obviously this 1245 1:30:49 --> 1:30:54 what we can identify is the 5G warfare plan. This was a plan 1246 1:30:54 --> 1:30:58 that they had to exterminate the large proportion of the 1247 1:30:58 --> 1:31:01 population, not only just exterminated, but take that 1248 1:31:01 --> 1:31:05 property. We're in the middle of it, we are far too early. We're 1249 1:31:05 --> 1:31:07 far too early for their plan. And there's lots of people are 1250 1:31:07 --> 1:31:12 going to die. A lot of people have taken the the biochemical 1251 1:31:12 --> 1:31:15 weapon and I call it a vaccine. And it is interconnected with 1252 1:31:15 --> 1:31:19 the 5G network for the extermination using the atomic 1253 1:31:19 --> 1:31:25 seizure. So most of the people in the system who have taken the 1254 1:31:25 --> 1:31:30 shot, if given the correct information, I can tell you now 1255 1:31:30 --> 1:31:34 why they would want to carry on with it is going to be a serious 1256 1:31:34 --> 1:31:40 problem for them. A solution to the issues that we face, I 1257 1:31:40 --> 1:31:44 believe, are number one, getting large numbers of people in an 1258 1:31:44 --> 1:31:51 area to access land, but to secure the asset of the land by 1259 1:31:51 --> 1:31:54 having large numbers of people who can basically defend it 1260 1:31:54 --> 1:31:58 because food and water is the most important thing in these 1261 1:31:58 --> 1:32:03 times. Secondly, security of that asset, and you can only do 1262 1:32:03 --> 1:32:07 that with bodies with people and people who are going to be want 1263 1:32:07 --> 1:32:10 to do something if things get out of hand, which I've got no 1264 1:32:10 --> 1:32:16 doubt. What's happening with the migration? Some of these young 1265 1:32:16 --> 1:32:20 migrants being trained now by certain military bases in the 1266 1:32:20 --> 1:32:24 UK. It's probably a very similar model going on around the rest 1267 1:32:24 --> 1:32:28 of Europe. We're going to see some interesting things going 1268 1:32:28 --> 1:32:31 forward, but I think we're far too early. The information of 1269 1:32:31 --> 1:32:35 CART is truly out of the bag. The globalist are planning a 1270 1:32:35 --> 1:32:39 mass extermination. You can see a lot of the narrative is starting 1271 1:32:39 --> 1:32:42 to wobble. And I think what we'll have to do is we'll have 1272 1:32:42 --> 1:32:47 to push harder. One of the things I'm pretty positive about 1273 1:32:48 --> 1:32:52 from a weapons perspective, offence is always best form of 1274 1:32:52 --> 1:32:56 defence. In the military terms, it's exactly the same. You don't 1275 1:32:56 --> 1:32:58 want to be in a defensive position when you've got the 1276 1:32:58 --> 1:33:01 potential to go on the offensive. And we absolutely have 1277 1:33:01 --> 1:33:05 that, whether it be legal tactics, whether it be getting 1278 1:33:05 --> 1:33:08 people together. There's lots of things that can be done 1279 1:33:08 --> 1:33:13 offensively in relation to this. I mean, I've been advising 1280 1:33:13 --> 1:33:15 people who, a lot of the lads who've been chopping down the 1281 1:33:15 --> 1:33:19 ULS cameras in London, there's quite a few of them across the 1282 1:33:19 --> 1:33:23 UK are starting to be chopped down. Anybody who gets arrested 1283 1:33:23 --> 1:33:25 for that, I can show that that's not a camera, it's a 1284 1:33:25 --> 1:33:30 multi-photon ionised radiation weapon, radar gun. Consequently, 1285 1:33:30 --> 1:33:33 they have defence in law, because that's part of a weapon 1286 1:33:33 --> 1:33:37 system. It's part of a digital city prison that they're planning 1287 1:33:37 --> 1:33:43 an extermination. So all of that sort of information given to 1288 1:33:43 --> 1:33:48 these guys. So if they then get arrested for what the police 1289 1:33:48 --> 1:33:51 would say is criminal damage, they actually have a defence to 1290 1:33:51 --> 1:33:55 that. Because obviously, it's part of a weapons programme, you 1291 1:33:55 --> 1:33:59 have a defence in any state across the world, you have a 1292 1:33:59 --> 1:34:04 self-defence, and you have a defence to criminal damage. If 1293 1:34:04 --> 1:34:08 you believe that that equipment is there to cause significant 1294 1:34:09 --> 1:34:13 property or bodily harm. And that's what so that's you know, 1295 1:34:13 --> 1:34:15 that there's all these things that we can really start to put 1296 1:34:15 --> 1:34:18 the pressure on because the cat's totally out the bag now. 1297 1:34:18 --> 1:34:22 The plans there, we saw what happened with the COVID-19 thing, 1298 1:34:22 --> 1:34:24 who will things are coming back? 1299 1:34:24 --> 1:34:26 That's commentary. Let's get some comments from our speakers. 1300 1:34:26 --> 1:34:29 Excellent. Well, well put. Self-defence, everybody. It's a 1301 1:34:29 --> 1:34:33 great, it's a great line. And one of the issues that I meant to 1302 1:34:33 --> 1:34:37 raise that Mark talks about with communities is in Australia, 1303 1:34:37 --> 1:34:41 there's a big unitization of farmland, Alex, where 1304 1:34:41 --> 1:34:43 communities are coming together. And there's a structure being 1305 1:34:43 --> 1:34:50 created where up to 70, 80 people are buying one 70th of a 1306 1:34:50 --> 1:34:53 farm that then gives them the right to come on to that farm. 1307 1:34:53 --> 1:34:57 It's a very interesting structure. I'll get the details 1308 1:34:57 --> 1:35:01 of it's also happening with I think in the UK. And it's it's 1309 1:35:01 --> 1:35:03 part of that strategy. So any further comments on what Mark 1310 1:35:03 --> 1:35:13 said? Alex, Mads, anybody? So in terms of the David, Gary, 1311 1:35:15 --> 1:35:18 makes sense. Good. All right, Mark, thank you. Thank you for 1312 1:35:18 --> 1:35:22 that. And, and the the help that you're giving to that community, 1313 1:35:22 --> 1:35:28 Mark and the 5G. I love you've mentioned it before. And, and the 1314 1:35:28 --> 1:35:31 other issue that one of our speakers, I can't remember who 1315 1:35:31 --> 1:35:36 it was, Stephen said, be willing to suffer. If we you know, the 1316 1:35:36 --> 1:35:39 enormity of what we're dealing with, if you're scared of 1317 1:35:39 --> 1:35:43 suffering, you won't do what needs to be done. And so making 1318 1:35:43 --> 1:35:47 that conscious decision, I am willing to suffer. And then what 1319 1:35:47 --> 1:35:50 Mads said about the people in Denmark during World War Two is 1320 1:35:50 --> 1:35:53 that I don't want to suffer. So I'm going to collaborate with 1321 1:35:53 --> 1:35:57 the Germans. That's the choice that we each have. Are you 1322 1:35:57 --> 1:35:58 willing to suffer? All right, Jim? 1323 1:36:03 --> 1:36:08 Hey, thanks very much. Great talk and very insightful. I put 1324 1:36:08 --> 1:36:13 some things in the chat. You've heard me talk before about the 1325 1:36:13 --> 1:36:22 background of, of the CEO of Pfizer Albert Borla, as, as his 1326 1:36:22 --> 1:36:29 specialty is, is vaccinating pigs and castrating that with 1327 1:36:29 --> 1:36:33 vaccine vaccination, utilizing a series of two shots. That's, 1328 1:36:34 --> 1:36:39 that is the specialty of Albert Borla castration of pigs with 1329 1:36:39 --> 1:36:44 vaccinations. And now he's the CEO of Pfizer, the, the head of 1330 1:36:45 --> 1:36:54 Moderna. Stephen Banshell, he is a biotechnologist. And his 1331 1:36:54 --> 1:37:02 specialty is, is connecting biotechnology with, with 1332 1:37:02 --> 1:37:07 treatments. Taking these two together, in conjunction with 1333 1:37:07 --> 1:37:11 what you have all been discussing, the inevitability of 1334 1:37:11 --> 1:37:16 the inevitability of Israel and Six Eyes, and I'll take it as 1335 1:37:16 --> 1:37:23 Six Eyes networks being involved in this issue. And exactly how, 1336 1:37:24 --> 1:37:28 and what the intelligence networks know, I put in the chat, 1337 1:37:28 --> 1:37:33 the CIA's paper on the difference in Ashkenazi versus 1338 1:37:33 --> 1:37:38 the biblical Hebrews. And that's a, that is a paper from the CIA 1339 1:37:39 --> 1:37:45 in some, some years ago. So the intelligence agencies know this, 1340 1:37:46 --> 1:37:51 genetic differences, and Benjamin Netanyahu may be 1341 1:37:51 --> 1:37:56 capitalizing on this. So naming who they are, who these people 1342 1:37:56 --> 1:38:00 are, is, we need to also talk about Anthony Blinken, who may 1343 1:38:00 --> 1:38:03 be, who is from the United States starting all these wars, 1344 1:38:03 --> 1:38:08 and his stepfather, Samuel Pissar, who was the, who was the 1345 1:38:09 --> 1:38:13 attorney for Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, a 1346 1:38:13 --> 1:38:17 British super spy, who ran all the medical journals through 1347 1:38:17 --> 1:38:22 Pergamon Press, including a formerly Butterworth Springer. 1348 1:38:24 --> 1:38:28 That brings us to finance. Everybody's talked about finance. 1349 1:38:28 --> 1:38:33 How do we, in terms of finance, how do we stop the financing if 1350 1:38:33 --> 1:38:36 it's being done through the medical industrial complex? In 1351 1:38:36 --> 1:38:40 the United States, we have this thing called the Inflation 1352 1:38:40 --> 1:38:43 Reduction Act, that is going to pay people to take medications 1353 1:38:43 --> 1:38:51 for on label use. How do we, and we know that the GPOs, the group 1354 1:38:51 --> 1:38:53 purchasing organizations, this gets a little technical, the 1355 1:38:53 --> 1:38:58 group purchasing organizations, like, like, like, like, like, 1356 1:38:58 --> 1:39:04 Cardinal Help, McKesson, Amerisource, Bergen, Vizient, 1357 1:39:06 --> 1:39:09 Premier, make billions of dollars. And when we asked Zeke 1358 1:39:09 --> 1:39:13 Emanuel why, he said, Senatorial and congressional campaigns are 1359 1:39:13 --> 1:39:15 expensive, both at a federal and state level, they cost billions 1360 1:39:15 --> 1:39:19 of dollars. And these PBMs and GPO group purchasing 1361 1:39:19 --> 1:39:22 organizations make billions and contribute to their campaigns. 1362 1:39:23 --> 1:39:25 And very recently, we found that these GPOs are sending their 1363 1:39:25 --> 1:39:31 money to Switzerland. So we know how they're financing the, the 1364 1:39:32 --> 1:39:38 elections, the fraud through medication prices. And that's 1365 1:39:38 --> 1:39:42 just one way. The other way is through Sam Bankman Fried, FTX. 1366 1:39:42 --> 1:39:47 So we know how to how it's being done. How do we stop these? How 1367 1:39:47 --> 1:39:51 do we stop the financing through healthcare? And the mandating 1368 1:39:52 --> 1:39:57 payments for FDA approved medications? Is that I don't know 1369 1:39:57 --> 1:40:01 if that's if anybody has a response to that in terms of what 1370 1:40:01 --> 1:40:06 we were talking about, and, and how to get rid of and what the 1371 1:40:06 --> 1:40:11 next step is, if healthcare is going to be so expensive for the 1372 1:40:11 --> 1:40:16 people who refuse to take the FDA approved medication? And 1373 1:40:16 --> 1:40:18 relating that to inflation. 1374 1:40:18 --> 1:40:20 All right, comments on Jim's thoughts. 1375 1:40:25 --> 1:40:30 I'll just say a few things about what Jim's always talking about, 1376 1:40:30 --> 1:40:33 which is the so called intelligence organizations, I 1377 1:40:33 --> 1:40:35 prefer to call them lack of intelligence organizations. 1378 1:40:36 --> 1:40:40 They're part of the really dumb, stupid plan. Very much a big 1379 1:40:40 --> 1:40:44 part of it. They have been controlled for a very long time. 1380 1:40:44 --> 1:40:50 In the Western world. And they are funded with many billions of 1381 1:40:50 --> 1:40:55 dollars. The US total funding for intelligence organizations 1382 1:40:55 --> 1:40:59 is of the order of $100 billion a year. And it's totally 1383 1:40:59 --> 1:41:02 unaccountable. We have no idea where they're spending this 1384 1:41:02 --> 1:41:06 money. And it's the same in Israel, it's the same in 1385 1:41:06 --> 1:41:08 Germany, it's the same in Australia, it's the same in 1386 1:41:08 --> 1:41:12 Canada. There's billions upon billions of dollars in the 1387 1:41:12 --> 1:41:16 world. There's billions upon billions upon billions of 1388 1:41:16 --> 1:41:19 dollars every year and over 10 years that is multiplied by 10. 1389 1:41:20 --> 1:41:23 And there's no accountability. We have no idea where they're 1390 1:41:23 --> 1:41:30 spending this money. So we need to actually start to demand that 1391 1:41:30 --> 1:41:34 they explain what they're doing. Because at the moment, 99% of 1392 1:41:34 --> 1:41:38 the population doesn't even know that the intelligence or so 1393 1:41:38 --> 1:41:44 of intelligence world exists. And 99% of the people don't know 1394 1:41:44 --> 1:41:47 what covert warfare is. 1395 1:41:48 --> 1:41:56 Does anybody know a guy named Victor Ostrowski, particularly 1396 1:41:56 --> 1:41:59 Daniel, who was talking about and can you relate to Victor 1397 1:41:59 --> 1:42:05 Ostrowski and unit 8200, unit 9900 and their involvement in 1398 1:42:05 --> 1:42:10 these or unit 90, unit 8200 graduate division, and their 1399 1:42:10 --> 1:42:14 involvement in this scheme to take down the world? 1400 1:42:20 --> 1:42:25 No, no answer, Jim. All right. Any no other comments? We'll go 1401 1:42:25 --> 1:42:31 to John Bodwin from Massachusetts. Just by the by 1402 1:42:31 --> 1:42:35 what Alex said, I think Mads said, what one of you said that 1403 1:42:35 --> 1:42:39 these guys who are the psychopaths trying to wipe us out 1404 1:42:40 --> 1:42:44 at the top. However, the middle managers, I think was you mads, 1405 1:42:44 --> 1:42:48 the people at the middle level with again, I mentioned the 1406 1:42:48 --> 1:42:52 Purdue farmer and the sackler family and Massachusetts 1407 1:42:52 --> 1:43:00 featured in that the sackler family diluted itself and said, 1408 1:43:00 --> 1:43:03 what we're doing is good. Once you make that decision, the 1409 1:43:03 --> 1:43:09 wiping out humanity is good. It justifies anything. And you 1410 1:43:09 --> 1:43:14 know, it was a salutary reminder that your basic foundational 1411 1:43:14 --> 1:43:18 belief system that enables anything to happen. So again, I 1412 1:43:18 --> 1:43:22 urge you to look at that book Empire of pain for a deep, deep 1413 1:43:22 --> 1:43:26 understanding if you have time of the issues that we're 1414 1:43:26 --> 1:43:29 dealing with the psychology of these middle manager levels in 1415 1:43:29 --> 1:43:33 these big organizations and in the intelligence communities. 1416 1:43:33 --> 1:43:33 John. 1417 1:43:36 --> 1:43:41 Hello, it's been a while. Um, let's see. I appreciate the 1418 1:43:41 --> 1:43:44 conversation today. It was good to be a fly on the wall and 1419 1:43:44 --> 1:43:47 listen to you guys talk. I missed the first 20 minutes or 1420 1:43:47 --> 1:43:53 so I apologize for future conversations like it. Talking 1421 1:43:53 --> 1:43:57 is good and people have to air air their grievances and the 1422 1:43:57 --> 1:44:01 knowledge that they have. So that people know that like the 1423 1:44:01 --> 1:44:05 next steps to take. Well, as far as the next steps I might 1424 1:44:05 --> 1:44:09 instead of ask a question offer that if you put a structure 1425 1:44:09 --> 1:44:12 around what you're trying to get out of a meeting such as this, 1426 1:44:14 --> 1:44:18 not this meeting, but after this meeting, you know, clear, clear 1427 1:44:18 --> 1:44:24 objectives, strategy tactics, so forth. We need people that can 1428 1:44:24 --> 1:44:28 organize logistics such as that and put backroom strategies 1429 1:44:28 --> 1:44:31 together because all these numbskulls out there who don't 1430 1:44:31 --> 1:44:35 know what's going on, they don't know what they don't know. And 1431 1:44:35 --> 1:44:37 if we're sitting here saying, well, we know what they don't 1432 1:44:37 --> 1:44:42 know. We sort of have a responsibility first to ourselves 1433 1:44:42 --> 1:44:46 and our families. But after that, to the other people that 1434 1:44:46 --> 1:44:49 when the shit hits the fan, they're going to be looking for 1435 1:44:49 --> 1:44:52 advice. And if you're not organized in a way to give them 1436 1:44:54 --> 1:44:58 succinct pertinent information for them to save themselves, 1437 1:44:59 --> 1:45:04 first secure food and water. If the government's trying to screw 1438 1:45:04 --> 1:45:07 with your food and water. In the United States, we now have to 1439 1:45:07 --> 1:45:12 worry in probably some European nations about there's gonna be 1440 1:45:12 --> 1:45:16 10 million fighting age men across the border by the time 1441 1:45:16 --> 1:45:19 Biden's done 10 million. Think about the size of your 1442 1:45:19 --> 1:45:23 countries. 10 million fighting age men. I'm not counting the 1443 1:45:23 --> 1:45:27 women and kids that are crossing. That's an invasion. 1444 1:45:27 --> 1:45:32 And our water supplies food, stay out of the cities. It's all 1445 1:45:32 --> 1:45:37 coming. And there's no stopping it. It's done. And the people 1446 1:45:37 --> 1:45:39 who don't understand what's going on are going to be 1447 1:45:39 --> 1:45:42 scratching their heads saying, gee, how did this happen? We 1448 1:45:42 --> 1:45:46 know how it happened. They voted for it. They demanded it. They 1449 1:45:46 --> 1:45:49 wanted it because they were propagandized into it. So I 1450 1:45:49 --> 1:45:52 agree with everything you're saying, you know, Mads, David, 1451 1:45:53 --> 1:45:57 the other guys. But putting together local communities, or 1452 1:45:57 --> 1:46:00 at least teaching people how to put together local communities, 1453 1:46:00 --> 1:46:04 getting to know your local police officers, befriending 1454 1:46:04 --> 1:46:08 their wives and families and kids, because they'll be less 1455 1:46:08 --> 1:46:14 apt to bludgeon you. If you get to know their families, become 1456 1:46:14 --> 1:46:17 bring them into your community. Otherwise, they become a tool 1457 1:46:17 --> 1:46:20 of the government. And there's no police in the world in the 1458 1:46:20 --> 1:46:24 history of man that hasn't been loyal to a paycheck over an 1459 1:46:24 --> 1:46:27 oath. The oath means nothing. Their loyalty is to their 1460 1:46:27 --> 1:46:31 paycheck. So anyway, I just thought I'd offer that putting a 1461 1:46:31 --> 1:46:34 structure around, you know, where you where you want to go 1462 1:46:34 --> 1:46:37 with a lot of the thoughts. I know people are angry here, I 1463 1:46:37 --> 1:46:41 could I could hear it in their voices. The way I look at it, 1464 1:46:41 --> 1:46:45 this is the nature of man. We were lucky to have grown up in 1465 1:46:45 --> 1:46:48 the last 50 years where there was nothing like this. I will 1466 1:46:48 --> 1:46:51 you can go back through all the wars in history in the various 1467 1:46:51 --> 1:46:55 locations. In the United States, we had the Civil War. And then I 1468 1:46:55 --> 1:46:57 was a 30 years later, there was a Spanish American war, which 1469 1:46:57 --> 1:47:01 was kind of a joke. We needed to go to war and prove that we're a 1470 1:47:01 --> 1:47:03 big country. Now you guys got to take us seriously in the world. 1471 1:47:04 --> 1:47:07 And then 20 years after that's World War One, and then another 1472 1:47:07 --> 1:47:11 25 years World War Two. And they're really, you know, Korea, 1473 1:47:11 --> 1:47:15 Vietnam, whatever. But for the last 50 years, there's been 1474 1:47:15 --> 1:47:18 generations of Americans that don't know what it's like at all. 1475 1:47:19 --> 1:47:23 I mean, Afghanistan stuff, we send some volunteers, people 1476 1:47:23 --> 1:47:27 don't realize this is the nature of man, for people to usurp power 1477 1:47:28 --> 1:47:32 to use it against others, to propagandize to get people to 1478 1:47:32 --> 1:47:35 divide people into factions, have them fight your wars for 1479 1:47:35 --> 1:47:39 you. This is the way it's always going to be. So be ready to 1480 1:47:39 --> 1:47:42 educate people, put a wrapper around it, put some structure to 1481 1:47:42 --> 1:47:45 it. And now that that's what I'm doing. That's what I intend to 1482 1:47:45 --> 1:47:48 do. Thanks. Thanks for listening. Sorry, I don't have a 1483 1:47:48 --> 1:47:48 question. 1484 1:47:49 --> 1:47:52 Thank you. Thank you, john. Very good. And it reminds me that in 1485 1:47:52 --> 1:47:56 Australia, john, someone has done just that one man is called 1486 1:47:56 --> 1:48:00 My Place Australia, there are over 200 communities, and Glenn 1487 1:48:00 --> 1:48:03 has done some good. We'll get here from getting a moment. But 1488 1:48:04 --> 1:48:08 My Place Australia 200 separate communities that are all got 1489 1:48:08 --> 1:48:10 basic principles for running, but they're not controlled from 1490 1:48:10 --> 1:48:14 head office. And it's wonderful to see and they meet weekly, 1491 1:48:14 --> 1:48:18 these My Place organizations to do precisely what you're saying. 1492 1:48:18 --> 1:48:22 So it's grown like a mushroom is very inspiring. Glenn. 1493 1:48:24 --> 1:48:31 I have a lot of interesting discussions, a lot of insight. I 1494 1:48:31 --> 1:48:36 like to address some things around where people focus their 1495 1:48:36 --> 1:48:41 attention and where they may be miss poking some attention. For 1496 1:48:41 --> 1:48:47 both john and Alex, I would say dead on 100% you've got to first 1497 1:48:47 --> 1:48:51 save yourself and save your family in your community. So 1498 1:48:51 --> 1:48:54 working locally, recognizing the kind of things that may be 1499 1:48:54 --> 1:48:59 coming at us, the kind of suddenly, standard services 1500 1:48:59 --> 1:49:02 aren't available. And how do you get them? And how do you survive 1501 1:49:02 --> 1:49:06 the next week of eating and staying warm enough to survive? 1502 1:49:06 --> 1:49:11 You got to you got to have those plans to get through the period. 1503 1:49:11 --> 1:49:15 Now the other part of it is, okay, how do we do battle? And 1504 1:49:15 --> 1:49:18 how do we take out the corruption? And how do we get at 1505 1:49:18 --> 1:49:24 that central part of the cabal that everyone identifies? And to 1506 1:49:24 --> 1:49:28 that I, I have to say two, two different, several different 1507 1:49:28 --> 1:49:30 things. One is the first thing is being careful not to be 1508 1:49:30 --> 1:49:34 distracted, that there are so many players, so many things out 1509 1:49:34 --> 1:49:37 there that are just out there to distract us. It's part of a 1510 1:49:37 --> 1:49:42 standard tool of confusion, known as as the Marxist handbook. 1511 1:49:42 --> 1:49:46 And, and people really need to have that as being a filter right 1512 1:49:46 --> 1:49:50 up front, figure out when you're just being told a long line of 1513 1:49:50 --> 1:49:53 gibberish, that's just consuming time and not actually getting to 1514 1:49:53 --> 1:49:59 any core element. Now, this brings us to sort of where where 1515 1:49:59 --> 1:50:05 where are the areas of focus? And everyone talks about, well, 1516 1:50:05 --> 1:50:09 certainly you want to know who's in control. And yes, the center 1517 1:50:09 --> 1:50:12 piece of that control is certainly the the most guilty. 1518 1:50:12 --> 1:50:16 But I think there's a range of different areas that people in 1519 1:50:16 --> 1:50:19 general, have a tendency to align with as an area of focus. 1520 1:50:19 --> 1:50:24 And it's in fact, a failed center of focus, because it will 1521 1:50:24 --> 1:50:26 identify some people that are part of the system and 1522 1:50:26 --> 1:50:30 contributing and complicit, but it's not even close to getting 1523 1:50:30 --> 1:50:33 at those that are in full control and at the top of the 1524 1:50:33 --> 1:50:35 heap in the cabal. And so I'm going to give you five different 1525 1:50:35 --> 1:50:40 areas. Any any focus on a religion as being center of the 1526 1:50:40 --> 1:50:45 core criminal cabal is I think a failed approach. Anyone that 1527 1:50:45 --> 1:50:49 focuses on a a military or a set of militaries as being the center 1528 1:50:49 --> 1:50:54 of the core criminal cabal is is is going down a bad path. 1529 1:50:55 --> 1:50:57 Again, you're not going to find the top of the heat that the true 1530 1:50:57 --> 1:51:01 control players the true money. Anyone that focus on just the 1531 1:51:01 --> 1:51:05 medical leadership as being the center of the core of the criminal 1532 1:51:05 --> 1:51:09 cabal is is is also false. Yes, they're agents and they're 1533 1:51:09 --> 1:51:12 complicit, but they're not they're not in control. Anyone 1534 1:51:12 --> 1:51:17 that looks at the Intel groups or either any individual Intel 1535 1:51:17 --> 1:51:22 players or or any of the mix of Intel? Yes, they're contributors. 1536 1:51:22 --> 1:51:26 They're, there's, you know, they're, they're often immoral 1537 1:51:26 --> 1:51:30 and dangerous to what's going on, but they are not the core of 1538 1:51:30 --> 1:51:34 the problem or the top of the cabal. And then as a last sort of 1539 1:51:34 --> 1:51:39 group, that's a failed area is the focus on people that any 1540 1:51:39 --> 1:51:42 particular technology type, we're certainly seeing a lot of 1541 1:51:42 --> 1:51:46 things going on now around advanced technologies and AI. 1542 1:51:46 --> 1:51:51 And I do I have a major background in computer science 1543 1:51:51 --> 1:51:57 and AI is a very difficult space to be in and can be used against 1544 1:51:57 --> 1:52:01 all of us. But again, it's not the top of the heap. So I'm 1545 1:52:01 --> 1:52:03 going to say where is the top of the heap? I'm not going to be 1546 1:52:03 --> 1:52:06 naming names here, but I'm going to say how do you distinguish 1547 1:52:06 --> 1:52:13 them? You distinguish them by following the money. Everybody 1548 1:52:13 --> 1:52:16 talks about the billionaires being out there, but being a 1549 1:52:16 --> 1:52:21 billionaire of one or two or five or 10 billion is not is a 1550 1:52:21 --> 1:52:28 small change. Every so everyone strives to be a billionaire. No 1551 1:52:28 --> 1:52:31 one wants to claim they're a trillionaire, but they are out 1552 1:52:31 --> 1:52:36 there. That's who's at the core of this cabal, who's at the core 1553 1:52:36 --> 1:52:41 of the control, and who has been doing it for decades. It's the 1554 1:52:41 --> 1:52:46 trillionaires, follow the money, figure out who the trillionaires 1555 1:52:46 --> 1:52:50 and you know exactly who the guilty are. Thank you for your 1556 1:52:50 --> 1:52:50 time. 1557 1:52:51 --> 1:52:54 Thank you. Thank you, Glenn. That's an interesting, interesting 1558 1:52:54 --> 1:52:57 concept. Mads, well, who's the wealthiest person published or 1559 1:52:57 --> 1:53:01 any of you at the current moment to take Glenn's point before we 1560 1:53:01 --> 1:53:08 go to Jeremy? Is it 300 billion published as the wealthiest, you 1561 1:53:08 --> 1:53:09 know, whoever it is? 1562 1:53:11 --> 1:53:14 No, that there are trillionaires out there, of course, there is. 1563 1:53:14 --> 1:53:19 I'll tell you an anecdote as well. Someone told me that with 1564 1:53:19 --> 1:53:24 intelligence background, he so when you produce a banknote, 1565 1:53:25 --> 1:53:30 and then the concept is that maybe if it's torn, you go into 1566 1:53:30 --> 1:53:33 the bank, the bank sent it to the national bank, and then they 1567 1:53:33 --> 1:53:37 know exactly how many banks, how many banknotes are out there. 1568 1:53:37 --> 1:53:41 Then the idea about when they now create money in the banks, 1569 1:53:41 --> 1:53:46 when they make out a loan. So let's say someone makes takes a 1570 1:53:46 --> 1:53:50 loan of $1 million. That's new money that has just been made for 1571 1:53:50 --> 1:53:56 that purpose. $1 million. So the story is that we have been told 1572 1:53:56 --> 1:54:01 all of us is that that money when that person then pays that 1573 1:54:01 --> 1:54:05 money back, then the money supply should in theory go down 1574 1:54:05 --> 1:54:13 with $1 million, right? But what if what if it doesn't? What if 1575 1:54:13 --> 1:54:20 every time the bank makes makes $1 million or million euro? Why 1576 1:54:20 --> 1:54:27 would they why would they why would they minimize the money 1577 1:54:27 --> 1:54:31 money supply with that? So anyway, so this guy who has 1578 1:54:31 --> 1:54:35 connections to a very large European internet, sorry, secret 1579 1:54:35 --> 1:54:40 agency, I don't want to say which one he he said that all the 1580 1:54:40 --> 1:54:44 euros and all the dollars that have ever been produced are still 1581 1:54:44 --> 1:54:47 out there. And that means that the reason we don't feel it is 1582 1:54:47 --> 1:54:52 because if they are in a bank account in Panama, with an awful 1583 1:54:52 --> 1:54:55 lot of zeros behind it, you don't feel it. If it's not 1584 1:54:55 --> 1:55:01 released into the into the real economy. But it's there. I agree 1585 1:55:01 --> 1:55:04 with what Glenn said about following money. I think we 1586 1:55:04 --> 1:55:08 should find out what is the actual size of the money supply. 1587 1:55:08 --> 1:55:13 Let's start there. That would be interesting to find out. And 1588 1:55:13 --> 1:55:18 there was also and I think it was English guy on a Swedish 1589 1:55:18 --> 1:55:26 university who made he made a 200 page essay on sorry, when he 1590 1:55:26 --> 1:55:29 got what he became a professor where he also proved this in 1591 1:55:29 --> 1:55:35 this document. And I sent it to a few people and we haven't 1592 1:55:35 --> 1:55:37 nobody has ever is talking about it. But I think that could be 1593 1:55:37 --> 1:55:40 something that could be interesting to look into. And 1594 1:55:40 --> 1:55:43 and we have we have historical precedent precedent. I mean, one 1595 1:55:43 --> 1:55:46 of the best was at Professor Anthony Sutton from Stanford who 1596 1:55:46 --> 1:55:50 proved who financed the Russian Revolution and the Wall Street. 1597 1:55:50 --> 1:55:56 But this should be taught in all classes in school from the 1598 1:55:56 --> 1:56:00 seventh grade to the 12th grade. The banksters financed the 1599 1:56:00 --> 1:56:03 Russian Revolution was not the people who did it. It was the 1600 1:56:03 --> 1:56:06 banksters and the same with the with the with Adolf Hitler, he 1601 1:56:06 --> 1:56:10 was financed by the banksters. This should this should be 1602 1:56:10 --> 1:56:13 people should not think that it's yeah, the Germans hate the 1603 1:56:13 --> 1:56:15 Russians or the French hate the English. No, no, no, it's not. 1604 1:56:16 --> 1:56:20 It's all made up. So I think following the money, I like that 1605 1:56:20 --> 1:56:22 very much what Glenn said. Yeah. 1606 1:56:23 --> 1:56:28 Jerry and Alex and David, any comment? By the way, just think 1607 1:56:28 --> 1:56:31 about whether this interesting idea of trillionaires. I'll pause 1608 1:56:31 --> 1:56:33 the recording for a moment. 1609 1:56:38 --> 1:56:38 Okay. 1610 1:56:40 --> 1:56:43 Just one small item on follow the money. Yep. 1611 1:56:44 --> 1:56:47 I don't think there are many cases of it. But there is at 1612 1:56:47 --> 1:56:50 least one case where where people claim there's a mountain 1613 1:56:50 --> 1:56:55 of money, and it's not actually true. And that has to do with 1614 1:56:56 --> 1:57:00 some some amount of the Rothschild family has been 1615 1:57:00 --> 1:57:04 declared as having enormous amount of assets because they 1616 1:57:04 --> 1:57:10 they have full control of all of the diamond structure. It's a 1617 1:57:10 --> 1:57:13 monopoly and and they keep picking up anybody that minds 1618 1:57:13 --> 1:57:18 it and hiding it away. That they can't possibly ever turn that 1619 1:57:18 --> 1:57:22 into real money. Because once they started to open up those 1620 1:57:22 --> 1:57:27 vaults that would turn in, it would turn diamonds into near 1621 1:57:27 --> 1:57:30 worthless, you there would be pennies on the dollar. So while 1622 1:57:30 --> 1:57:34 while there's certainly a number of fairly wealthy Rothschilds 1623 1:57:34 --> 1:57:39 and some of them are in the small count of billions, they 1624 1:57:39 --> 1:57:41 are nowhere near the top of the heap or anywhere near the 1625 1:57:41 --> 1:57:43 trillionaires. Thank you. 1626 1:57:43 --> 1:57:46 Thanks. Thanks, James. So Jerry, Alex and David, any thoughts on 1627 1:57:46 --> 1:57:49 trillionaires? Because first, I love the idea. 1628 1:57:50 --> 1:57:57 I'll just say something about money. Sam Bankman Fried was 1629 1:57:57 --> 1:58:03 referred to not too long ago as a billionaire. Some genius, some 1630 1:58:03 --> 1:58:07 incredible person that we should all listen to, who had some 1631 1:58:07 --> 1:58:15 magical way to create money. He was convicted last week. And by 1632 1:58:15 --> 1:58:20 a jury in New York, and he'll be sentenced in March. The money, 1633 1:58:21 --> 1:58:25 just the wealth, the money, the power, the reverence for this 1634 1:58:25 --> 1:58:29 person just collapses in one instant, it just disappears, 1635 1:58:29 --> 1:58:35 poof, gone. So why? Why do people pay so much attention to 1636 1:58:35 --> 1:58:41 money? It's become our religion. That's why. And it's not a good 1637 1:58:41 --> 1:58:45 thing. Don't look to billionaires or trillionaires or 1638 1:58:45 --> 1:58:49 any one of these people to solve any problem for you. Most of them 1639 1:58:49 --> 1:58:54 have got their money through luck. They've actually run one a lot 1640 1:58:54 --> 1:58:59 free of life. Look at Elon Musk. What's Elon done? I mean, he's 1641 1:58:59 --> 1:59:04 won a couple of lotteries, basically. So this reverence for 1642 1:59:04 --> 1:59:09 wealth is disturbing thing in our culture. And it can 1643 1:59:09 --> 1:59:13 disappear, as I say, in a puff of smoke in one instant. And that 1644 1:59:13 --> 1:59:16 can happen to any of these people. The problem is this, the 1645 1:59:16 --> 1:59:23 problem is that some people when they accumulate wealth, think 1646 1:59:23 --> 1:59:27 that they have the right to power. That's the problem. So 1647 1:59:27 --> 1:59:30 wealth in itself is not the problem. I know lots of wealthy 1648 1:59:30 --> 1:59:33 people who just love to go fishing and sit on the beach and 1649 1:59:33 --> 1:59:35 do nothing. They're not interested in power over people. 1650 1:59:37 --> 1:59:39 It's the element, it's the combination of wealth and the 1651 1:59:39 --> 1:59:44 hunger for power that's the problem. So when some people who 1652 1:59:44 --> 1:59:48 have hunger for power, which we normally call cycle, achieve 1653 1:59:48 --> 1:59:54 some wealth, this is the problem when they join. And that's when 1654 1:59:54 --> 2:00:00 pure evil manifests. So I'm sure they're the dynamics. Wealth in 1655 2:00:00 --> 2:00:06 itself is not a problem. It's when it's when these psychopaths 1656 2:00:06 --> 2:00:12 get control of people through wealth. And as Glenn says, 1657 2:00:12 --> 2:00:16 they're pretty easy to identify. It's not hard at all to identify. 1658 2:00:17 --> 2:00:20 And there are billionaires who are sitting on the beach, they're 1659 2:00:20 --> 2:00:23 not interested in it. Forget them. They're not the problem. 1660 2:00:23 --> 2:00:28 Wealth is not the problem. The problem is this psychopathic 1661 2:00:28 --> 2:00:29 desire for power and control. 1662 2:00:31 --> 2:00:35 And so we're gonna let's get moving. But to take that point, 1663 2:00:36 --> 2:00:41 Jerry, you said one in 20 psychopaths. So if there's 5,000 1664 2:00:41 --> 2:00:45 billionaires, so one in 20 or 5,000 billionaires is a lot of 1665 2:00:45 --> 2:00:47 money. Alex, any thoughts on trillionaires? 1666 2:00:49 --> 2:00:54 I can say one thing. So maybe, Jerry, that the that, you know, 1667 2:00:54 --> 2:00:59 the existence of these billionaires and the the lording 1668 2:00:59 --> 2:01:04 of them by the mainstream media, you know, maybe that's the 1669 2:01:04 --> 2:01:10 problem. And it feeds the love of money, which, which is a false 1670 2:01:10 --> 2:01:11 God, arguably. 1671 2:01:13 --> 2:01:16 Correct. It's become a religion. Yeah, these people think they're 1672 2:01:16 --> 2:01:19 gods, because, quite frankly, most of them just want a lot for 1673 2:01:19 --> 2:01:22 you. I mean, he must start at a company and suddenly the share 1674 2:01:22 --> 2:01:24 price went up and he's valued at all these billions of dollars. 1675 2:01:24 --> 2:01:28 He didn't actually do anything. He just floated a company with 1676 2:01:28 --> 2:01:32 some crazy idea that sounded good, like, you know, drilling 1677 2:01:32 --> 2:01:36 tunnels or putting spaceships up in the air. And so what? I mean, 1678 2:01:37 --> 2:01:39 what good has that done to anybody on the planet? He's an 1679 2:01:39 --> 2:01:43 underachiever, in my opinion, a very, very big underachiever. 1680 2:01:43 --> 2:01:46 He's done very little for the planet. He's starting to wake up. 1681 2:01:46 --> 2:01:51 But so it's all it's all just a myth, you know, that he's this 1682 2:01:51 --> 2:01:54 wonderful person with special ability is just rubbish. He won 1683 2:01:54 --> 2:01:55 the lottery. Okay. 1684 2:01:55 --> 2:02:01 My father was a Midland bank manager, Jerry. And he taught me 1685 2:02:01 --> 2:02:07 and my sister that, well, he told us that that many of his 1686 2:02:07 --> 2:02:12 rich customers were very, very unhappy, or seem to be very 1687 2:02:12 --> 2:02:18 unhappy, and miserable. And, and conversely, the his poor 1688 2:02:18 --> 2:02:23 customers seem to be very happy. So, but I think I don't know 1689 2:02:23 --> 2:02:25 whether he did that deliberately. He was talking to 1690 2:02:25 --> 2:02:30 my mother, and we heard these conversations about people with 1691 2:02:30 --> 2:02:33 loads of money who he met as a bank manager. And they were 1692 2:02:33 --> 2:02:38 unhappy, and the poor people were happy. So that was a good 1693 2:02:38 --> 2:02:42 lesson for us. And, and so but I would say that huge numbers of 1694 2:02:42 --> 2:02:47 people in Western society, certainly, they get distracted 1695 2:02:47 --> 2:02:54 by this money, you know, and, and they come to they wage this 1696 2:02:54 --> 2:03:00 competition with all their friends, you know. And it's just 1697 2:03:00 --> 2:03:03 ridiculous, because I think that if you have too much, a lot of 1698 2:03:03 --> 2:03:08 money, too much money, arguably, then you can buy your way out of 1699 2:03:08 --> 2:03:12 problems, and you get further and further from humanity from 1700 2:03:12 --> 2:03:17 reality. Inevitably, you get lazy. And I think that 1701 2:03:17 --> 2:03:21 suffering is and suffering through wars, perhaps, perhaps, 1702 2:03:21 --> 2:03:24 but, you know, the wars used to be between tribes are the big, 1703 2:03:24 --> 2:03:31 the big evil is that, you know, you get these big countries. And, 1704 2:03:31 --> 2:03:36 of course, when you have huge resources at your disposal, then 1705 2:03:36 --> 2:03:39 that's going to lead to massive problems. Whereas a war between 1706 2:03:39 --> 2:03:43 two tribes, you know, formerly wouldn't cause that much damage. 1707 2:03:43 --> 2:03:46 But it's obvious when you think about when you get over 1708 2:03:46 --> 2:03:50 organization, which Aldous Huxley, who we don't know which 1709 2:03:50 --> 2:03:54 side he was on, he talks about in Brave New World Revisited, 1710 2:03:55 --> 2:03:59 over organization, and Bertrand Russell also talks about over 1711 2:03:59 --> 2:04:05 organization as a cause of unhappiness. So both of them held 1712 2:04:05 --> 2:04:11 the view that over organization was very, very bad. And I think 1713 2:04:11 --> 2:04:16 that is true. But anyway, I think the love of money is a 1714 2:04:16 --> 2:04:21 false god. And there are many, many people I know, who love 1715 2:04:21 --> 2:04:24 money and worship it. And they think that they will be happy if 1716 2:04:24 --> 2:04:27 they have lots of money, which of course, is ridiculous. The 1717 2:04:27 --> 2:04:32 way to get the way to stand a chance of becoming happy is to 1718 2:04:32 --> 2:04:36 do the right thing. And maybe you'll get rewarded. But that's 1719 2:04:36 --> 2:04:40 not why you do the right thing to be rewarded. It maybe comes 1720 2:04:41 --> 2:04:43 with doing the right thing, if you understand me, should do it 1721 2:04:43 --> 2:04:50 for its own intrinsic good. I don't know whether I explained 1722 2:04:50 --> 2:04:53 very well what that means. 1723 2:04:53 --> 2:04:56 Some billionaires are not psychopaths, and they use their 1724 2:04:56 --> 2:05:00 money for good. I mean, I know a billionaire who gave all of his 1725 2:05:00 --> 2:05:05 wealth away, all of it. So just happened to know this man. Okay, 1726 2:05:05 --> 2:05:09 because he was well known in our state. And he was a multi, 1727 2:05:09 --> 2:05:14 multi, multi billionaire gave it all away. All of it. There's 1728 2:05:14 --> 2:05:17 lots of good people who are wealthy. It's not. It's when the 1729 2:05:17 --> 2:05:21 psychopath gets wealth, and then decides that he can use this 1730 2:05:21 --> 2:05:22 wealth to create more power. 1731 2:05:22 --> 2:05:26 Yeah, I understand that point. But I wonder whether the 1732 2:05:26 --> 2:05:29 existence of billionaires and millionaires for that matter, you 1733 2:05:29 --> 2:05:35 know, and that feeds the common man, if you like his 1734 2:05:35 --> 2:05:39 aspirations to, to achieve wealth to you know, they seem to, 1735 2:05:40 --> 2:05:43 I think a lot of people think that they can become happy by 1736 2:05:43 --> 2:05:45 having a lot of money that doesn't follow at all. 1737 2:05:47 --> 2:05:51 And let's get let's get we can zero in on these. We need to 1738 2:05:51 --> 2:05:54 look at the wealthy psychopath. They're the problem. 1739 2:05:55 --> 2:05:55 Yes. 1740 2:05:56 --> 2:06:00 Just let me this. It's a simple from my viewpoint. It's simple. 1741 2:06:00 --> 2:06:03 If you gain wealth through whatever mechanism, as long as 1742 2:06:03 --> 2:06:07 you do it in a righteous way, it's fine. It's when you lie, 1743 2:06:07 --> 2:06:12 cheat, steal and murder all the, you know, the enormous sins. 1744 2:06:12 --> 2:06:16 That's when you dangerous and that's when you should be put 1745 2:06:16 --> 2:06:23 away. Or at least you're well taken away and imprisoned. But 1746 2:06:25 --> 2:06:25 thank you. 1747 2:06:26 --> 2:06:30 Alex quick, they've got a couple of Jeremy and then Alan, we've 1748 2:06:30 --> 2:06:33 got 15 minutes to go. Alex, any comment on the trillionaire 1749 2:06:33 --> 2:06:34 question? 1750 2:06:35 --> 2:06:39 Well, yeah, I you know, I know a little bit about this. And we're 1751 2:06:39 --> 2:06:43 talking about a lot of decadence, a lot of depravity, 1752 2:06:43 --> 2:06:49 and people who are generally not very smart. So not a good power 1753 2:06:49 --> 2:06:52 structure. But you know, I think that going back to something 1754 2:06:52 --> 2:06:58 that was said in this talk today, I think that Jerry said, 1755 2:06:59 --> 2:07:01 perhaps one of the most important things is that we are 1756 2:07:01 --> 2:07:09 winning. And I also, you know, apart from the individual levels 1757 2:07:09 --> 2:07:13 that we are, we are, we are all trying to do, there's also the 1758 2:07:13 --> 2:07:18 cavalry, we're not alone. I just last night, I returned from a 1759 2:07:18 --> 2:07:24 conference, Eurasian integrations conference, and it 1760 2:07:24 --> 2:07:29 was it was held in Samarkand, Uzbekistan, outside of this 1761 2:07:29 --> 2:07:33 Western matrix. And it's wonderful and refreshing, 1762 2:07:33 --> 2:07:36 stepping outside of our matrix, because we are all a little bit 1763 2:07:37 --> 2:07:40 inured to the madness and insanity that we live with every 1764 2:07:40 --> 2:07:43 day. And then you step outside, and you see like, oh, my gosh, 1765 2:07:43 --> 2:07:46 there's normal people talking about normal things, and life 1766 2:07:46 --> 2:07:54 goes on normally. And that world is rising. And I think that what 1767 2:07:54 --> 2:07:59 we're living through cannot stand and it will fall. And the, 1768 2:07:59 --> 2:08:03 you know, the humanity what it is originally, what it is meant 1769 2:08:03 --> 2:08:08 to be, will be resurrected. It's a it's a big, it's a big talk. 1770 2:08:08 --> 2:08:09 But I'll leave it at that for now. 1771 2:08:12 --> 2:08:16 Very good. Okay, thank you, Alex. Very good. Jeremy, then 1772 2:08:16 --> 2:08:18 Alan, and we're probably going to run out of time. We'll see. 1773 2:08:19 --> 2:08:23 And we're closing comments from Mads and David Webb, and then 1774 2:08:24 --> 2:08:26 we'll, we'll bring it bring this to a thing. And then you can go 1775 2:08:26 --> 2:08:31 to Tom Rodman's telegram video group. If you've got time, 1776 2:08:31 --> 2:08:32 Jeremy. 1777 2:08:32 --> 2:08:36 Yeah, yeah, I loved what John said earlier on, and what Alex 1778 2:08:36 --> 2:08:39 just said just now, it's, I find it really interesting. People 1779 2:08:39 --> 2:08:43 just believe what they want to believe. And I posted something 1780 2:08:43 --> 2:08:47 to some of my friends this week, just on the euro mono numbers 1781 2:08:47 --> 2:08:51 between the death rates and naught to 14 year olds, which is 1782 2:08:51 --> 2:08:55 just staggering. And I had no comment back whatsoever, from my 1783 2:08:55 --> 2:08:58 friends also talked to them about 5g. And I've just sort of 1784 2:08:59 --> 2:09:02 opposed all the installation of the mass on the island where I 1785 2:09:02 --> 2:09:05 live, and try to raise a bit of awareness of that. And people 1786 2:09:05 --> 2:09:08 just aren't interested. They're just going about their business. 1787 2:09:08 --> 2:09:11 And I just wonder how on earth you're going to educate these 1788 2:09:11 --> 2:09:14 people, you know, maybe it's just gonna be too late. But in 1789 2:09:14 --> 2:09:17 my own personal view, it seems like the madmen are in control 1790 2:09:17 --> 2:09:20 in the West, we're living through the fall of the Western 1791 2:09:20 --> 2:09:23 Civilization at the moment. I can't see the Russians and the 1792 2:09:23 --> 2:09:26 Chinese, the Indians running along going along with what 1793 2:09:26 --> 2:09:31 we're doing. So my my really questions to Alex and Jerry, 1794 2:09:31 --> 2:09:35 maybe and the rest of you in that's what sort of time zone 1795 2:09:35 --> 2:09:38 you time scale you thinking because we seem to be rushing 1796 2:09:38 --> 2:09:41 into World War Three, we're probably going to see complete 1797 2:09:41 --> 2:09:45 madness in the US elections and more major civil unrest and 1798 2:09:45 --> 2:09:49 maybe even minus skirmish you start in the war front next year, 1799 2:09:49 --> 2:09:53 maybe 25 we're going into World War Three potentially as the 1800 2:09:53 --> 2:09:57 neocons believe they can in America believe they can win. 1801 2:09:57 --> 2:10:01 And therefore I was thinking, what are we going to see like a 1802 2:10:01 --> 2:10:04 massive rise in the dollar, you know, all the all the assets in 1803 2:10:04 --> 2:10:10 Europe for flee into the US. And I heard I missed the whole 1804 2:10:10 --> 2:10:12 beginning of this only came on right at the end. So I didn't 1805 2:10:12 --> 2:10:17 hear any of your comments before. Do you do you perceive a 1806 2:10:17 --> 2:10:23 collapse short term or is this collapse with the final collapse 1807 2:10:23 --> 2:10:25 being American collapse? 1808 2:10:25 --> 2:10:27 If you weren't here for the whole thing, what's the 1809 2:10:27 --> 2:10:28 recordings to be a good question? 1810 2:10:28 --> 2:10:30 You know, just I'm just going about they talked about collapse 1811 2:10:30 --> 2:10:33 as they perceive it as an American collapse at the end or 1812 2:10:34 --> 2:10:36 look, that's that's that's just too big. 1813 2:10:36 --> 2:10:37 Seriously, 1814 2:10:37 --> 2:10:40 I'll take a jab. I'll take a jab. 1815 2:10:43 --> 2:10:46 Oh, I'm sorry, Gary. I didn't realize I didn't mean to 1816 2:10:46 --> 2:10:52 interrupt but Douglas MacGregor was talking about possibly US 1817 2:10:52 --> 2:10:58 banks shutting down suddenly and staying shut down for three 1818 2:10:58 --> 2:11:02 weeks. There's a lot of talk of something weird going on. We 1819 2:11:02 --> 2:11:05 don't know what it might be. But we might we might be in for a 1820 2:11:05 --> 2:11:10 surprise short term. And then, you know, there are forces that 1821 2:11:10 --> 2:11:15 are there are forces that are opposed to this neocon globalist 1822 2:11:16 --> 2:11:20 W E F and they are considerable forces. They're not just like 1823 2:11:20 --> 2:11:24 starry eyed flower children. These are these are these are 1824 2:11:24 --> 2:11:28 real forces. And so something will come to a head. I don't 1825 2:11:28 --> 2:11:32 know what it will be but we could be in for for real 1826 2:11:32 --> 2:11:32 surprises. 1827 2:11:33 --> 2:11:34 Thank you. 1828 2:11:35 --> 2:11:38 Alex, can I ask you what they were talking about in Uzbekistan? 1829 2:11:39 --> 2:11:43 Oh, yeah, you know, it's so the conference was organized by one 1830 2:11:43 --> 2:11:49 of the two big two fails one of the G SIBs but they they they 1831 2:11:49 --> 2:11:52 tried hard to hide their identity like they created a new 1832 2:11:52 --> 2:12:01 organization. Other co sponsors were Gazprom Bank, Rosneft and 1833 2:12:01 --> 2:12:09 VTB Bank 1000 delegates from 27 countries, huge delegation from 1834 2:12:09 --> 2:12:14 Italy, or Germans, French, Americans, Iranians. They're all 1835 2:12:14 --> 2:12:18 talking about cooperation. They're talking about, you know, 1836 2:12:18 --> 2:12:22 a different path to Eurasia rather than domination and 1837 2:12:22 --> 2:12:26 subjugation and exploitation. They're talking the language of 1838 2:12:26 --> 2:12:32 cooperation, global partnership and things like this. Real 1839 2:12:32 --> 2:12:34 conversations very sophisticated. 1840 2:12:35 --> 2:12:38 And Alex, can you can you paint a picture quickly of life in 1841 2:12:38 --> 2:12:43 Samarkand? How is it different from London? Apart from the 1842 2:12:43 --> 2:12:44 weather? 1843 2:12:44 --> 2:12:48 It's very difficult to explain. But it's familiar to me because 1844 2:12:48 --> 2:12:51 I grew up in the world like that. You know, like people going 1845 2:12:51 --> 2:12:58 about their business in a normal way. You know, people going to 1846 2:12:58 --> 2:13:04 work, making food, children going to school. None of this 1847 2:13:04 --> 2:13:08 LGBT who's on the left, who's on the right, who's a who's a 1848 2:13:08 --> 2:13:13 trader who's it's hard to explain. But it's just like normal. 1849 2:13:13 --> 2:13:15 It's same. It feels same. 1850 2:13:15 --> 2:13:17 Do they worship their mobile phones and social media in 1851 2:13:17 --> 2:13:18 Samarkand? 1852 2:13:19 --> 2:13:25 They have they have all that. But, you know, it's not. People 1853 2:13:25 --> 2:13:30 are not people. People feel mellow, feel mellow. They're 1854 2:13:30 --> 2:13:35 warm, they're friendly. And there's an there's an absence of 1855 2:13:35 --> 2:13:42 this hysteria and an outrage. And I, you know, I wish I could 1856 2:13:42 --> 2:13:45 explain it better than that. But you know, when you when you step 1857 2:13:45 --> 2:13:48 into it, you're aware of what it is. And then you're also aware 1858 2:13:49 --> 2:13:54 of the absolute madness, madness, and and and insanity 1859 2:13:54 --> 2:13:56 that we're living through. 1860 2:13:56 --> 2:13:59 So that suggests that the madness and outrage could be 1861 2:13:59 --> 2:14:02 generated, doesn't it? You know, they know what? 1862 2:14:02 --> 2:14:04 No, they're they're whipped up on purpose. There's no doubt 1863 2:14:04 --> 2:14:07 that they're being whipped up on purpose. This is all like divide 1864 2:14:07 --> 2:14:10 and conquer nonstop everybody against everybody to make, to 1865 2:14:10 --> 2:14:14 make people lose reason to lose to make people disoriented to 1866 2:14:14 --> 2:14:17 make people not understand what the problem is, where the blows 1867 2:14:17 --> 2:14:20 are coming from, and how to defend ourselves against it. 1868 2:14:20 --> 2:14:24 So maybe that's the most important message we can put 1869 2:14:24 --> 2:14:26 out. I don't know, maybe. 1870 2:14:27 --> 2:14:29 David, David, I'd like to say something to rationalize 1871 2:14:29 --> 2:14:33 everything we're talking about here. So it's not in 44. Since 1872 2:14:33 --> 2:14:37 1944. Everything is about the dominance of the US dollar 1873 2:14:37 --> 2:14:43 currency. Everything in the financial sector. And the people 1874 2:14:43 --> 2:14:47 who support that, the cabal, they're desperately trying to 1875 2:14:47 --> 2:14:49 hold on to that position, because it's an incredibly 1876 2:14:49 --> 2:14:53 powerful position that is the ultimate power financially. Now, 1877 2:14:53 --> 2:14:56 the rest of the people that Alex just went to meet are all 1878 2:14:56 --> 2:15:01 talking about multipolarity, where currencies are used, 1879 2:15:01 --> 2:15:04 national currencies are used to settle trades rather than a 1880 2:15:04 --> 2:15:07 single currency being predominantly used. So this is 1881 2:15:07 --> 2:15:11 all about US dollar dominance. And a lot of people I write 1882 2:15:11 --> 2:15:15 about that a lot, by the way, in my editorial article, a lot of 1883 2:15:15 --> 2:15:18 people asked me, how long can the US dollar maintain dominant? 1884 2:15:18 --> 2:15:25 Well, it's a difficult question. But chaos, warfare, global 1885 2:15:25 --> 2:15:29 geopolitical uncertainty feed dollar dominance, the dollars as 1886 2:15:29 --> 2:15:32 strong as an ox at the moment, and getting stronger, by the 1887 2:15:32 --> 2:15:36 way, right, people fantasize about the collapse of the dollar. 1888 2:15:36 --> 2:15:38 Well, I'll tell you, it ain't happening. It's as strong as an 1889 2:15:38 --> 2:15:44 ox, right. So it's not going to happen tomorrow. As long as this 1890 2:15:44 --> 2:15:48 continual chaos and warfare and destabilization continues that 1891 2:15:48 --> 2:15:53 feeds us dollar dominance. And we have an opposition to it, as 1892 2:15:53 --> 2:15:56 Alex says, which is the world of cooperation, and 1893 2:15:56 --> 2:16:00 multipolarity of currencies. And that world gives us some hope, I 1894 2:16:00 --> 2:16:04 think. When people ask me how long will it take before the US 1895 2:16:04 --> 2:16:11 dollar dominance is lost, I say 100 years, maybe 50. But I can't 1896 2:16:11 --> 2:16:16 see it happening too soon. It's too dominant. The system they've 1897 2:16:16 --> 2:16:22 built is all encompassing. And chaos and geopolitical uncertainty 1898 2:16:22 --> 2:16:27 feeds it. So we've got a long way to battle here. This is as I 1899 2:16:27 --> 2:16:29 said earlier, this is the beginning of a very long fight 1900 2:16:29 --> 2:16:34 back. And the multipolarity argument, the cooperation 1901 2:16:34 --> 2:16:37 argument that Alex has witnessed recently is is a great thing. 1902 2:16:37 --> 2:16:41 It's a good development. And it's a balancing it's a balance 1903 2:16:41 --> 2:16:44 to this madness of one currency dominance. 1904 2:16:46 --> 2:16:50 Thanks. Thank you, Jerry. Okay, last question to Alan. And then 1905 2:16:50 --> 2:16:55 we'll get final closing statements. Alan, who knows a 1906 2:16:55 --> 2:16:57 bit about banking and who's muted? 1907 2:17:01 --> 2:17:09 Okay, yeah, can you hear me now? Right. Thank you. Yeah, I, I've 1908 2:17:09 --> 2:17:12 really getting a lot of value out of this. I'm new. I'll be going 1909 2:17:12 --> 2:17:19 over to Tom Rodman's chat after this. But I just wanted to tell 1910 2:17:19 --> 2:17:23 y'all that I've got three and a half years and more of 1911 2:17:23 --> 2:17:30 information on this that I've been trying to research this 1912 2:17:30 --> 2:17:37 Enzlau Promise software that was stolen in 1980s by Israel's, you 1913 2:17:37 --> 2:17:42 know, Rafi Eitan and Robert Maxwell. Basically, Jim, or 1914 2:17:42 --> 2:17:46 Bill Hamilton, who made this Enzlau prosecutor management 1915 2:17:46 --> 2:17:52 information system, look that up. And, but he contacted me 1916 2:17:52 --> 2:17:55 three and a half years ago and said, send me any incriminating 1917 2:17:55 --> 2:17:59 information you have. And there's just it ties everything 1918 2:17:59 --> 2:18:02 together. But basically, the Reagan Administration Justice 1919 2:18:02 --> 2:18:08 Department and CIA, and as you know, the Mossad took this 1920 2:18:08 --> 2:18:15 software and they used it for that unit 8200 and to create the 1921 2:18:15 --> 2:18:21 internet, Google, the banking laundering system. You know, 1922 2:18:21 --> 2:18:24 it's, it's how they control everything. It, and the Stanny 1923 2:18:24 --> 2:18:30 Casolaro was researching it called it the octopus. 1991. He 1924 2:18:30 --> 2:18:34 was found dead right when he was about to go back to Jim Hamilton 1925 2:18:34 --> 2:18:38 and said, I'm coming back with the head of the octopus. And so 1926 2:18:38 --> 2:18:41 ever since that day, it goes, what was the head of the 1927 2:18:41 --> 2:18:46 octopus? And, you know, this idea, follow the money. And so, 1928 2:18:47 --> 2:18:50 oh, like, the third, you know, for the last 30 years, many 1929 2:18:50 --> 2:18:55 investigative journalists have been trying to research this 1930 2:18:55 --> 2:19:00 question. And it, it seems to one of the, you know, so it's 1931 2:19:00 --> 2:19:05 this forensic process of being like an intelligence agency. And 1932 2:19:06 --> 2:19:08 so one of my theories of the, you know, the money with the 1933 2:19:08 --> 2:19:12 trillions is the crown of England, you know, Prince Charles, 1934 2:19:13 --> 2:19:18 Prince King Charles, you know, that they really do have, I 1935 2:19:18 --> 2:19:22 think the Panama Papers and, you know, all you think we're going 1936 2:19:22 --> 2:19:25 to get to those people, but they don't quite get to them and 1937 2:19:25 --> 2:19:30 people start dying, you know, like, like, Ronald Bernard, 1938 2:19:30 --> 2:19:33 that's, that's an interesting find. So, you know, we're, we 1939 2:19:33 --> 2:19:39 are like a, you know, we were doing what the CIA was supposed 1940 2:19:39 --> 2:19:45 to do. But they, a lot of what I know, I know from following 1941 2:19:45 --> 2:19:51 Peter Dale Scott, and all these conspiracy researchers of the 1942 2:19:51 --> 2:19:55 deep state, Whitney Webb, you know, these are, those are 1943 2:19:55 --> 2:19:59 probably the two best Peter Dale Scott, Whitney Webb, you know, 1944 2:19:59 --> 2:20:04 has really explained, I wish he was on this call. I can hardly 1945 2:20:04 --> 2:20:07 get anybody's phone numbers. That's what's kind of 1946 2:20:07 --> 2:20:12 interesting. You know, I see Dan, you know, who I've read 1947 2:20:12 --> 2:20:15 Estelon, and you know, these are the sources that I've been 1948 2:20:15 --> 2:20:18 collecting for the last three years, just each one of them 1949 2:20:18 --> 2:20:22 shows us, you know, a part of the elephant that we're, we're 1950 2:20:22 --> 2:20:26 trying to see. And, you know, the main thing is to frame it 1951 2:20:26 --> 2:20:33 from this, this kind of CIA deep state perspective, you know, who 1952 2:20:33 --> 2:20:39 is this invisible empire, you know, because it really, once 1953 2:20:39 --> 2:20:43 you kind of start seeing that dimension, you know that, you 1954 2:20:43 --> 2:20:48 know, 911, JFK, and COVID, and everything that's going on has 1955 2:20:48 --> 2:20:48 been- 1956 2:20:48 --> 2:20:51 Quickly, Alan, Alan, you're going too broadly. 1957 2:20:51 --> 2:20:53 Yeah, okay. So let's talk more afterwards. 1958 2:20:54 --> 2:20:58 Yeah, you go to the group. So everybody, no more questions, 1959 2:20:58 --> 2:20:59 Marvin. 1960 2:20:59 --> 2:21:03 Close. Can I just ask a couple of questions? Quick questions? 1961 2:21:03 --> 2:21:06 Of course. Yes, you Stephen, you can and then closing comments 1962 2:21:06 --> 2:21:09 from Mads, David, Jerry and Alex. 1963 2:21:09 --> 2:21:14 So I hope all our guests are still here. David, Matt is still 1964 2:21:14 --> 2:21:21 here. Jerry and yep. And Alex. I just wanted so, Jerry, I've got 1965 2:21:21 --> 2:21:26 a question for you from one of my sons. He asks, how did you 1966 2:21:26 --> 2:21:31 learn about, he knows you're a doctor, you see. So he wanted me 1967 2:21:31 --> 2:21:36 to ask, how did you learn about economics, finance? But I've got 1968 2:21:36 --> 2:21:37 a question for all of you in a second. 1969 2:21:40 --> 2:21:46 Well, I retired in 2007, long time ago. And since then, I've 1970 2:21:46 --> 2:21:51 had a lot of spare time. And if you read voraciously, and 1971 2:21:51 --> 2:21:53 constant in a concentrated fashion, you can work out how 1972 2:21:53 --> 2:21:56 the financial system operates, how the banking system operates. 1973 2:21:56 --> 2:21:59 You have to pay attention that there's lots of things change 1974 2:21:59 --> 2:22:03 over time. It takes a lot of effort, the years of hard work 1975 2:22:03 --> 2:22:07 and study and good sources, you need good sources of 1976 2:22:07 --> 2:22:12 information. So that's the quick answer. I'll just give him one 1977 2:22:12 --> 2:22:15 fact to go and look up though. And that is that the special 1978 2:22:15 --> 2:22:23 drawing rights that are issued by the IMF increased dramatically 1979 2:22:24 --> 2:22:31 on the 23rd of August 2021. And that if he starts there to work 1980 2:22:31 --> 2:22:35 out what a special drawing right is, and what that event got 1981 2:22:35 --> 2:22:38 impacted had, you'll start to see you can start working out 1982 2:22:38 --> 2:22:43 what's going on. So special drawing rights issued on August 1983 2:22:43 --> 2:22:49 the 23rd 2021 by the IMF to many, many, many nations. You 1984 2:22:49 --> 2:22:52 start with that one fact, you can work with from there. 1985 2:22:52 --> 2:22:58 So Jerry, we'll start with you. I wanted to ask you, what's your 1986 2:22:58 --> 2:23:01 favourite book? And secondly, what's the most important thing 1987 2:23:01 --> 2:23:03 that you've heard tonight that you would like people to 1988 2:23:03 --> 2:23:05 remember who watching the video? 1989 2:23:06 --> 2:23:10 Oh, wow. The first question is, what's my favourite book? Well, 1990 2:23:11 --> 2:23:15 there are so many books I could mention, but my favourite book of 1991 2:23:15 --> 2:23:18 all that I tell everybody to read is called The Brothers. It's 1992 2:23:18 --> 2:23:22 all about the Dulles brothers, John Foster Dulles and Alan 1993 2:23:22 --> 2:23:28 Dulles. That book, anyone reading that book, it's a very 1994 2:23:28 --> 2:23:31 short book, and anyone reading that book will have the 1995 2:23:31 --> 2:23:35 illusions about history torn side and suddenly realise they're 1996 2:23:35 --> 2:23:39 living in a very different world than they thought they lived in. 1997 2:23:40 --> 2:23:43 So I recommend that book is called The Brothers. I think it's 1998 2:23:43 --> 2:23:47 called The Brothers, John Foster Dulles and Alan Dulles, and 1999 2:23:47 --> 2:23:52 their war on humanity or something like that. I forget 2000 2:23:52 --> 2:23:55 that book. So that book is freely available. And what was 2001 2:23:55 --> 2:23:56 the second thing, the major lesson? 2002 2:23:57 --> 2:23:59 So what's the most important thing you've heard tonight, 2003 2:23:59 --> 2:24:04 which you'd like people to remember? Sorry, single out so 2004 2:24:04 --> 2:24:06 that they remember at least that one thing 2005 2:24:07 --> 2:24:08 that I've heard. 2006 2:24:10 --> 2:24:11 Or said yourself? 2007 2:24:11 --> 2:24:15 I think the most well, I think David Webb's comment on how 2008 2:24:15 --> 2:24:21 stupid the whole plan is by the fascists, the fascist criminal 2009 2:24:21 --> 2:24:27 cabal is a really important statement. It is so dumb, so 2010 2:24:27 --> 2:24:32 stupid, so idiotic, that it can't succeed. So why are they 2011 2:24:32 --> 2:24:36 bothering? You know, I think this is a great statement. And 2012 2:24:36 --> 2:24:40 we need to ridicule them. I mean, ridicule them. I agree. 2013 2:24:40 --> 2:24:44 Ridicule is actually, I think a very powerful weapon. So we 2014 2:24:44 --> 2:24:45 should think more about ridicule. 2015 2:24:46 --> 2:24:51 And if you remember, Orwell used satire, specifically, 2016 2:24:51 --> 2:24:55 specifically of Stalin in Animal Farm. And that's why he 2017 2:24:55 --> 2:24:58 couldn't get the damned book published. For a year, I think 2018 2:24:58 --> 2:25:00 it was and that was George Orwell. 2019 2:25:01 --> 2:25:08 Um, thank you, Jerry. Alex. Oh, Alex, can you say what is your 2020 2:25:08 --> 2:25:09 favourite book? Can I? 2021 2:25:10 --> 2:25:14 The most important book I ever read is called Nutrition and 2022 2:25:14 --> 2:25:20 Physical Degeneration by Weston Price. Nothing to do what we're 2023 2:25:20 --> 2:25:23 talking about. I think that's the most important book I ever 2024 2:25:23 --> 2:25:30 read. So in closing remarks, I just want to give people like a 2025 2:25:30 --> 2:25:34 couple of couple of points to connect. So I mentioned this 2026 2:25:36 --> 2:25:39 conference in Kyrgyzstan where I was invited to speak, it was 2027 2:25:39 --> 2:25:46 organised by this big one of the big banks, Italian bank. This 2028 2:25:46 --> 2:25:51 bank recently made a large investment in Elon Musk's 2029 2:25:51 --> 2:25:59 SpaceX. Okay. SpaceX recently got a large contract from the US 2030 2:25:59 --> 2:26:05 Space Forces. The US Space Force was set up by Donald Trump, 2031 2:26:06 --> 2:26:10 which everybody was thought was a really dumb thing. Just Trump 2032 2:26:10 --> 2:26:15 being stupid as he is right. But as most things that Trump did, 2033 2:26:15 --> 2:26:19 there was method to the madness. And why did he do that? Because 2034 2:26:19 --> 2:26:24 he needed to set up a separate military hierarchy that he could 2035 2:26:24 --> 2:26:31 staff with people loyal to him. And so there's there are big 2036 2:26:31 --> 2:26:41 forces arranging, taking, you know, shape to counter these mad 2037 2:26:41 --> 2:26:47 globalists, this parasitic cabal. That's all. 2038 2:26:48 --> 2:26:49 Thank you, Alex. 2039 2:26:51 --> 2:26:53 Alex, is that the most important thing you've heard tonight or 2040 2:26:53 --> 2:26:54 said yourself? 2041 2:26:55 --> 2:27:02 Oh, I don't know. I heard many important things tonight. I, but 2042 2:27:02 --> 2:27:08 you know, not everything, not everything. I don't know if I 2043 2:27:08 --> 2:27:11 heard something new that I haven't heard before. You know, I 2044 2:27:11 --> 2:27:15 think that, you know, we're understanding what's going on. 2045 2:27:17 --> 2:27:22 And I couldn't put my finger on one important thing, you know, so 2046 2:27:22 --> 2:27:27 many are, maybe everything is maybe absolutely everything we 2047 2:27:27 --> 2:27:29 talked about tonight is, is important. 2048 2:27:30 --> 2:27:35 Excellent. Yeah, very good. Thank you so much. And David, and 2049 2:27:35 --> 2:27:39 Webb. Oh, sorry, we'll go to Matt's first and then you David. 2050 2:27:40 --> 2:27:43 Matt, what's your favorite book, if you want to tell us? 2051 2:27:43 --> 2:27:50 Yeah, I mean, I would like that more people had read Professor 2052 2:27:50 --> 2:27:53 Anthony Sutton spoke about who were behind the Russian 2053 2:27:53 --> 2:27:58 Revolution, because I was arguing my entire school years 2054 2:27:58 --> 2:28:02 with about 90% communists, who were kind of making excuses for 2055 2:28:02 --> 2:28:05 100 million dead Russians, because it was a price that they 2056 2:28:05 --> 2:28:09 were willing to pay, because it was not their family who eluded 2057 2:28:09 --> 2:28:12 and killed. And we see that not going on now again, with the 2058 2:28:12 --> 2:28:16 white phosphorus on other people's babies, that's fine. And 2059 2:28:16 --> 2:28:20 we saw it also with all the everybody including freedom 2060 2:28:20 --> 2:28:22 fighters, when there were collective punishment of 2061 2:28:22 --> 2:28:25 Russians, nobody said anything, you they cannot be in Olympic 2062 2:28:25 --> 2:28:30 Games. So they had all their their bank accounts frozen in the 2063 2:28:30 --> 2:28:34 West, an ordinary Russian who loves the West. There's nothing 2064 2:28:34 --> 2:28:36 more they want to become Westerners. And they're not 2065 2:28:37 --> 2:28:39 nothing more they want to become Westerners. They had their kids 2066 2:28:39 --> 2:28:43 in private schools in England, they invest in bank accounts and 2067 2:28:43 --> 2:28:47 equities, bank transfer, overnight, boom, frozen, nobody 2068 2:28:47 --> 2:28:52 said a thing. It's collective punishment of a nation. I can't 2069 2:28:52 --> 2:28:56 transfer money to my mother in law in Moscow. I can't even send 2070 2:28:56 --> 2:29:01 her a package with Royal Mail. I can't fly there. I can't drive 2071 2:29:01 --> 2:29:05 there. I can't take a train. I can't sail there. I have to fly 2072 2:29:05 --> 2:29:09 through Serbia if I want to visit my Russian family. And 2073 2:29:09 --> 2:29:13 nobody said a thing. That's fine. Because it's not it's not 2074 2:29:13 --> 2:29:18 me who's suffering. Collective punishment of the Russians. And 2075 2:29:18 --> 2:29:21 now we see it on the Palestinians and nobody lifts a 2076 2:29:21 --> 2:29:25 finger. But I think this time is the Hebrews, I think they went 2077 2:29:25 --> 2:29:29 as one this time, I my guess is that they went too far. So the 2078 2:29:29 --> 2:29:32 book I wanted to I want to explain was Professor Anthony 2079 2:29:32 --> 2:29:38 Sutton and the and who was behind the Wall Street Revolution, 2080 2:29:38 --> 2:29:43 sorry, the the the policy revolution. And and then what I 2081 2:29:43 --> 2:29:45 want to say about tonight, what I want to think is saying is that 2082 2:29:45 --> 2:29:49 if I've been working very much with the with the demonstration 2083 2:29:49 --> 2:29:52 and what the people can do, but and David is working from the 2084 2:29:52 --> 2:29:56 ops with the great taking because the people who can lose 2085 2:29:56 --> 2:29:58 the most are the people who are very wealthy. And if we can get 2086 2:29:58 --> 2:30:01 both the people and the wealthy to work together about creating 2087 2:30:01 --> 2:30:04 creating a society with truth and reconciliation, but where 2088 2:30:04 --> 2:30:07 the rich can keep their money or whatever. And over time, if we 2089 2:30:07 --> 2:30:10 all become rich, because we have abundance, we have AI, we're 2090 2:30:10 --> 2:30:12 all going to be rich, the world is so rich, everything, 2091 2:30:12 --> 2:30:14 everything, it's we can create a win win situation for everybody. 2092 2:30:15 --> 2:30:19 So that's what I what I just want to finish off with that. 2093 2:30:20 --> 2:30:24 We should somehow try to, to to to do what we are doing, but 2094 2:30:24 --> 2:30:28 also understand we are part of a whole. And I agree that with 2095 2:30:28 --> 2:30:31 both Alex and Gary, that we are definitely winning. I can I can 2096 2:30:31 --> 2:30:34 feel it, the stuff we are allowed to say. And also don't 2097 2:30:34 --> 2:30:39 remember the people you can't criticize, probably the people 2098 2:30:39 --> 2:30:43 we should be criticizing. So go out and protest against the 2099 2:30:43 --> 2:30:45 Zionists first thing in the morning. 2100 2:30:46 --> 2:30:49 Yeah, so the win win situation you talk about, that's I'm 2101 2:30:50 --> 2:30:53 thinking to myself, well, actually, human beings need 2102 2:30:53 --> 2:30:58 suffering, arguably. And the reason for that is probably 2103 2:30:58 --> 2:31:00 Well, I've been married 33 years, you know, I mean, that's 2104 2:31:00 --> 2:31:01 fine. Yeah. 2105 2:31:01 --> 2:31:04 Come on, Stephen, get the last one. We're way over time. And 2106 2:31:05 --> 2:31:08 Stephen, on that point, remember that married Stephen is a 2107 2:31:08 --> 2:31:11 three ring circus, the wedding, the engagement ring, the 2108 2:31:11 --> 2:31:12 wedding ring and the suffering. 2109 2:31:15 --> 2:31:19 Exactly. So the suffering, your wife would sort it out for 2110 2:31:19 --> 2:31:22 you. You're done, man. Your wife, I know you're married as 2111 2:31:22 --> 2:31:22 well. So 2112 2:31:23 --> 2:31:27 Yeah. So David, what about you? What's your favorite book? 2113 2:31:29 --> 2:31:35 Well, recently, David McCullough's biography of John 2114 2:31:35 --> 2:31:35 Adams. 2115 2:31:36 --> 2:31:40 No, not just recently, you know, in. So what's your 2116 2:31:40 --> 2:31:40 favorite book? 2117 2:31:41 --> 2:31:43 That's what comes to mind. 2118 2:31:43 --> 2:31:44 Oh, is it? So what is it? 2119 2:31:46 --> 2:31:49 David McCullough's biography of John Adams. 2120 2:31:49 --> 2:31:50 Okay. 2121 2:31:50 --> 2:31:52 Is that what it's called? Biography of John Adams? 2122 2:31:52 --> 2:31:57 It's a very timely, timely thing. It's about the 2123 2:31:57 --> 2:31:59 difference that a person can make. 2124 2:32:01 --> 2:32:05 Yeah. And what have you heard tonight or said yourself, which 2125 2:32:05 --> 2:32:10 you think is very important for people to understand who are 2126 2:32:10 --> 2:32:10 watching this video? 2127 2:32:11 --> 2:32:17 Well, I was very moved by hearing Mads. 2128 2:32:17 --> 2:32:29 Just his passion and ideas. And it was very good for me to 2129 2:32:29 --> 2:32:36 hear him, as I said, so full of piss and vinegar tonight, 2130 2:32:36 --> 2:32:37 because that's what it takes. 2131 2:32:39 --> 2:32:39 I agree. 2132 2:32:39 --> 2:32:41 It takes people. 2133 2:32:41 --> 2:32:43 We need courageous people. 2134 2:32:43 --> 2:32:52 They can make a difference individually. 2135 2:32:52 --> 2:32:53 That's what it comes down to. 2136 2:32:53 --> 2:33:01 You have to decide that there's no alternative. 2137 2:33:05 --> 2:33:05 Exactly. 2138 2:33:06 --> 2:33:07 All right. 2139 2:33:07 --> 2:33:10 So it's the fight. 2140 2:33:10 --> 2:33:12 It's an existential fight, isn't it? 2141 2:33:12 --> 2:33:12 All war. 2142 2:33:12 --> 2:33:13 Yeah. 2143 2:33:14 --> 2:33:15 All right, everybody. 2144 2:33:15 --> 2:33:20 Magnificent contributions from tonight, Steven, from this 2145 2:33:20 --> 2:33:24 conversation and David Webb with your book, The Great Taking 2146 2:33:24 --> 2:33:28 Off and Jerry's perspective, that only one in 20 of the 2147 2:33:28 --> 2:33:29 billionaires are psychopaths. 2148 2:33:29 --> 2:33:33 So Alex and guys, what we have to do is my suggestion we'll 2149 2:33:33 --> 2:33:37 close with this because we're in fact, we'll have a little 2150 2:33:38 --> 2:33:38 break. 2151 2:33:38 --> 2:33:43 I'll stop the recording. 2152 2:33:43 --> 2:33:44 Thanks, everybody, for being here. 2153 2:33:45 --> 2:33:47 I will share this thought.