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Maybe start the recording.

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Yep.

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So are we going now Julie?

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Yes we are.

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All good. Thank you. Give me a phone call, Stan, if you need me for anything.

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But have fun everybody. Thank you.

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Julie, can you make me a co-host?

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Yes I've done that as well. Did that go through?

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Oh thank you.

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My pleasure.

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Yeah. What are you going to do Tom?

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We're going to throw them out when the...

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I only mute, I just mute mics.

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When our enemies come in.

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Noisy mics. Oh that too, that's true occasionally.

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Yeah the special artwork.

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Yeah. Don't make any exceptions Tom.

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Christine, thanks so much for coming to talk to us.

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We haven't got the silky tongue of Charles, but I'll try my best.

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And in any case you always generate a lot of interest.

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In fact last time Christine you nearly broke the chat facility.

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It was about 50 pages long from memory.

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I think it was the biggest we've ever had.

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But Charles is travelling around in Ireland and Hungary.

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And as a result he's not sending out the invitations,

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but he put the invitations on a website which nobody knew about.

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I certainly didn't know about it.

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It wasn't a website, it was some kind of link.

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And so he said I've advertised it there.

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And just hopefully I'll try and contact a few people in a few minutes.

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But I have contacted the latest people who've been presenting to us.

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So anyway, so the reason I asked you to speak to us Christine was because I was interested in

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Europe's equivalent of MAGA.

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And you're leading that aren't you?

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Yeah we kind of are.

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But there is other problems we are having to deal with right now.

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Yeah there aren't too many creative people in Europe,

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even though there are 450 million people.

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Apart from you of course and a few others.

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That's true.

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Christian Therese, I like him.

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But he's difficult to get to speak to us.

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But anyway, so Christine I did ask you for a kind of summary of what you've done in your life,

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you know, bio.

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But I don't think you saw the email.

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I think it was an email.

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Oh yeah, I must have missed that.

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Sorry.

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Yeah, but everybody knows, most people know who you are anyway.

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But maybe, do you have an introduction in your head?

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Well, I mean, I can just say a few words.

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So pretty much I've always voted liberal, conservative.

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In Germany you have two votes, you kind of split them.

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So that was always what I voted for ever since I turned eligible, 18 therefore eligible to vote.

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And I still voted like that in 2005.

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So I guess I did vote for Merkel when she came into power the first time.

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But I no longer could vote like that in 2009 when we had the next elections.

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What had happened was the subprime crisis in the United States

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in its consequence then the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy.

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And that really got me curious.

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People being kicked out of their houses left and right.

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And the banks repossessed the houses and stuff like that.

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And that was happening on a massive scale.

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And that just got me wondering, what is going on there?

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So yeah, I found out, the people have been literally, these mortgages have been literally

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shoved down their throats.

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And even to people that could never afford a mortgage.

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But they've been coerced pretty much.

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The houses were financed at like 150% and an SUV on top of it.

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And hey, a new television set, why not?

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We throw it all in there, but just buy this house.

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So then the consequence happened that the people lost their houses

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because they couldn't keep up with the payments.

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And then we all know the bubble burst.

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And it turns out it was just a fraud on a massive scale.

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And once you start going down a rabbit hole, there is no stopping.

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2007 was my waking up moment.

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So in 2009, I didn't vote at all.

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I went to vote, but I voted invalid.

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And so because I no longer had any party that I felt represented by.

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And that political homelessness that I felt at that time,

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I would have never thought that it would get to me to the extent that it actually did.

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But it was just horrible not knowing who you were represented by anymore.

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And then in 2013, I heard television was watching TV

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and they spoke of a new party being founded.

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AFD was the name of the party and they were critical of the euro.

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They were critics of the EU institutions.

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And I was like, whoa, what is this?

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And I'm like, that sounds good.

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So I turned off TV, researched the party, and I was so glad to finally have found a party again

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that I felt represented by, that I shared with most of their program points.

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And in the beginning, it was a rather limited programming we had.

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And I said, well, that's it.

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This time, I'm not going to trust anyone to do the right thing.

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I'm going to get involved myself.

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So I filled out an application to become a member of the party the very same night.

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And here we are.

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So that's pretty much where I'm coming from.

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Yeah.

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So that's the first time I've heard that, Christine.

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So that's good.

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Because I think we've, yeah.

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So what, so the subprime mortgages thing, I don't, I'm not a financial expert, but do you,

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what's your understanding of the motive behind the miss-selling of those mortgages?

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What were they trying to shift?

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Well, it has to do, no, it has pretty much to do with our money system

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because our money is built on debt.

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And, you know, when people always say, well, of course you have to,

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you have to pay back your debt.

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But if everyone paid back their debt, then the money would be gone.

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So if you're going to the bank wanting to take out a loan,

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you're actually getting money that doesn't exist.

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It's simply, you know, a transaction.

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So the bank gives you, well, they don't really give you the money.

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They just, you know, book it to your account as a positive.

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But what they do on their side is, you know, you now owe them.

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So that creates money by simply taking out a loan.

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And like I said, our money system is based on debt.

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So the money supply increases with debt.

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And eventually every money system will get to a point where, especially after 74,

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the cancellation of the Bretton Woods Agreement,

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the currency was backed by gold.

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So they cancel that.

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But in theory, it's, you know, the money should be countered by the services and goods you have.

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That actually backs the value of the money.

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But like I said, when you take out a debt, you have to repay that debt.

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But what is with the interest?

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The interest wasn't created.

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So you have to take the interest from someone else.

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But it's not part of that money supply.

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It's an imaginary kind of money that should be there but isn't there.

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So when you have this cycle, you have to create new debt in order to increase the money supply.

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But at the same time, you can't, at least not in a world with limited resources,

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you cannot have an infinite amount of services and goods.

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It's impossible.

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So at a certain point in time, the money supply will increase the goods and the services.

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So there is no backing of that currency anymore.

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And like I said, you always need to have new debtors that go into debt

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in order to keep up with that money supply.

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And it's, but at a certain point, it's going to crash.

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And that's what happened with the with the subprime crisis in the United States.

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And like I said, they were looking for people who would take go into more debt,

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would take out loans and mortgages.

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And they've been, yeah, these mortgages have been shoved down their throats

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because they actually had run out.

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But Christine, why did they do?

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Why did they go to such extremes in 2004, 2005?

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Was it 2003?

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Maybe.

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Why were they?

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Well, I mean, they're kind of sold it.

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It's the American dream to own a house.

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Yeah, of course, that is part of the American dream.

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But the American dream, you can only achieve the American dream

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if you can actually afford it.

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So and they made it, they kind of lured these people into these mortgages

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knowing they would never be able to afford a mortgage, not long term anyway.

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So they kind of lured them in.

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Well, we've had in the past, it was like that.

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If you wanted to buy a house, you had to come up with your own money,

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like at least 20 percent.

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You had to put 20 percent of the value of the house down

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and the bank would then be willing to finance the remainder, the 80 percent.

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We'll finance that for you.

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So but when you when you go in and you kind of curse these people,

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trying to make them to take out a mortgage and you lure them in with,

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oh, you don't need any, not only do you not need any down payment,

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we finance your house at 150 percent, meaning we'll finance the house,

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the total value of the house plus the 50 percent of the value

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we'll give you in cash.

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And we throw it in an SUV.

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So it was really like a coercion tactic to get these people to take out these mortgages

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because what the banks then did once they realized

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we have so much mortgages on our our records that are likely to go into default.

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We will not get the money back.

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Then they started bundling up these packages.

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It was fraud.

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So packages.

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So they had some, you know, high premium mortgages where I was pretty sure

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they would get their money from.

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Then they threw in, you know, more of the kind of the middle ground

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where it was neither here nor there, whether or not they were going to be paid back.

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And then they had like these rotten mortgages where it was clear

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they would never be paid back on.

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So and they took these bundles.

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And then, of course, you had the rating agencies.

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They looked at them and said, well, this is just great.

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You know, we give it a triple A rating or whatever.

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And then they were sold from one bank to the next bank.

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Always under the impression, oh, this is like a really good deal.

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We're we're doing here not realizing that these rotten mortgages

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and the kind of like the medium kind of mortgages were most likely going to go

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into default and we're not going to be paid back.

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And once the bank started realizing that they once again sold it to yet another bank.

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And the most stupid banks in the end were the ones that bought these triple A rated

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mortgage packages and bundles just to find out that they were worthless.

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And once that made the rounds that they were pretty much worthless,

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you know, something started in kicked in that they're trying to get rid of it as quickly as

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possible. And then the whole market just crashed.

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Was the ulterior motive to create more debt than usual?

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And they coerced people into getting into that debt because they knew that they could get their

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money back from these people who couldn't keep up the payments.

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They could, you know, they could repossess the houses.

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So was it?

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That's why I kind of say it was fraud.

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I wouldn't say it was just for the purpose of creating more debt.

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It was for them.

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It's not debt for them.

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For the banks, it's money.

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They're increasing the money supply.

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Correct.

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So that was the motive behind that.

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But of course, the first one, it's like what would you Ponzi scheme?

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Is that what you call it?

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Right.

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The first ones, they'll get paid off.

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They'll get their money.

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Right.

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But it trickles down.

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And it's the last one, you know, will actually be the one that is not getting the money back.

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And like I said, then the whole system crashed.

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But what was really horrible about that, I mean, they were playing with

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people's lives, right?

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Sure.

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Luring them into these mortgages.

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And, you know, then they just been kicked out, you know, way in debt.

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The house was gone.

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Everything was gone.

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So they were destroying lives.

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So why were the regulators held to account, Christine?

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Because they must have understood what was happening.

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They must have known what was happening.

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And they knew it was wrong.

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That's just the thing.

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The regulators were either in on it or benefiting from it.

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Right.

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Or there was such pressure.

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I mean, you know, when you just look at the whole system that we have right now,

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which I always call the globalitarian misanthropists, right?

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They're all in cahoots with one another.

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So either the regulators, the ones that were actually there to do a job,

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didn't really look closely.

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Right.

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And then if an agency, you know, comes up, a rating agency, I forgot the names of them,

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you know, if they give them a triple A meeting, who are they, you know, to say,

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well, that's not really triple A because you did, they didn't even bother to check.

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Right.

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And yeah, once you get into that circle and you have the prospect of making millions and

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millions even as a broker, right?

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Well, you might not want to look that closely either.

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Right.

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Having said that, Christine, perhaps we can't expect much from the banks regulators, can we?

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I mean, it's a bit naive to.

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So a lot of people would say that we've got regulators for the banks now,

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but I don't think they do their job.

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The banks do what they want.

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Good question.

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Like I said, it's just they're all in, you know, in cahoots with one another,

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whether it's the bank regulators, the banks or politics.

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I mean, all of this, right.

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They're so happy to finally belonging to the club.

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That's what I always say.

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Gosh, I made it.

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I'm in the club now.

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I get to go to dinner with such and such and I get to play golf with you don't know.

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Right.

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So they're so happy to be part of that club and they feel special.

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Yes.

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And they don't want to jeopardize that.

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That's the same with the elected representatives in parliaments.

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Right.

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The majority of them, I mean, it's beyond me, the decisions they're taking.

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If they took their job seriously, they would never take decisions like that.

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But yet they do it.

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And that's just mind boggling.

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Why do they do it?

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Well, the same principle applies here.

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They are so happy to finally belong to that club.

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And they really feel special.

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Right.

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So, I mean, getting an invitation by an ambassador, right.

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You don't go to the ambassador and tell him off and tell him what he's done wrong.

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No, you be kind.

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You be, you know, you don't want to jeopardize your position in life.

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And you look grateful.

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That you feel special.

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And that's why they do it.

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Yes.

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So a lot of people spend their time looking grateful with people of doubtful worth.

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But anyway, I wanted to ask you, Christine, you were in America recently.

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You went to CPAC.

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Right.

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And I actually, you told me what CPAC was because I had heard, but I'd forgotten.

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And it's the conference.

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So the sorry, it's an organization.

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It's the World's Conservatives.

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And they meet in America every year.

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Is that right?

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That is correct.

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Yes.

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Did trouble you?

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There is a couple of other.

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I'm sorry.

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There is like subsidiaries of CPAC.

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The original CPAC always took place in Washington, except the one year when this pandemic hit.

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Right.

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They had to move it to Florida because Florida was the only state that would allow a gathering

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of such a magnitude.

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Right.

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I mean, we're talking thousands of people.

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Which year was that, Christine?

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That was, I think, 22.

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What happened in 21 and 20?

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21 or 22.

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It was when, you know, the whole world was pretty much in lockdown.

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And in Florida, Florida was the only state that said, now we're not going to do this

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locking down.

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I think it must have been 21 then.

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That might have been 21.

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Yeah.

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And so anyway, the original is always in CPAC Washington, D.C.

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Exceptional one year.

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And now there are subsidiaries.

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There is a CPAC Hungary.

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There is a CPAC Mexico, I believe.

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There is a CPAC somewhere in South America.

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I forgot what country it was now.

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So they have subsidiaries now and there's going to be CPACs pretty much in every country.

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Australia, I think, is in planning.

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So, yeah.

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And it's called a conservative political action conference.

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Christine, did Trump invite you?

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I'm sorry?

353
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Did Trump invite you?

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No, Trump didn't invite me.

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I was invited by CPAC.

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The organization that said Trump was there.

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He gave his speech.

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He gave his speech.

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It was a great speech, wasn't it?

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Yeah, it was.

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It really was.

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Yeah.

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Well, it wasn't so much a speech.

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He was kind of talking to the audience.

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And yeah, that's one thing about Trump.

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He never gives like classical speeches.

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He always talks.

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He's telling stuff.

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And it's more like a conversation.

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But he is the only one speaking, pretty much.

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How big was the audience, Christine?

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Like thousands.

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Like, okay, in that room, you can probably fit easily 1,000, 1,200 people in there.

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But there is thousands there.

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You just kind of walk around.

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There's so much to do there.

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Yeah.

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And so what did you think of what was going on in America when you were there?

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That was two weeks ago, was it?

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That was two weeks ago.

381
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Yeah.

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I mean, CPAC this year was really fun.

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And you could really feel there was a different vibe to it.

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I mean, having won the election, right?

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And virtually everyone that was there was a Trump supporter, Mara supporter.

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So of course, we had lots to celebrate.

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But it's always fun going there.

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I always say, there's a saying in Germany, and it goes,

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home is where you do not have to explain yourself.

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And whenever I go to CPAC, I do not have to explain myself.

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You just meet like-minded people.

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And you just have a conversation.

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And you are challenged on certain issues.

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But it's not that vicarie kind of thing.

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Oh, you hater, and you spread hate speech.

396
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It is none of that, right?

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So it's always great to go there.

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So this is like a convention, was it?

399
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Like how many days was it?

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Three days.

401
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All right.

402
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And you said all kinds of...

403
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Can you just describe it?

404
0:21:35 --> 0:21:39
I mean, do they have loads of entertainment there and whatever?

405
0:21:40 --> 0:21:47
Well, it's pretty much just talks, panels, speakers, you know?

406
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So in the main room, you have some side panels too that you can go to.

407
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And then you have like a media row where all kinds of alternative media is there,

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whether it's radio or blogs or online, like I said, alternative media.

409
0:22:05 --> 0:22:08
So you have Epoch Times there, for instance.

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So they're all there just trying to...

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Just speaking to people.

412
0:22:12 --> 0:22:15
And of course, you have Steve Bannon there with his war room.

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He's always there too.

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And he's pretty much just putting on a show the entire day for like three days straight, right?

415
0:22:24 --> 0:22:26
Did you speak to Steve Bannon, by the way?

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I'm sorry?

417
0:22:27 --> 0:22:28
Did you speak to him?

418
0:22:28 --> 0:22:29
Yeah, of course.

419
0:22:30 --> 0:22:32
Yeah. So he's very...

420
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I saw a speech...

421
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We had him as a guest on Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics, this platform.

422
0:22:40 --> 0:22:43
And he was very sharp, I thought.

423
0:22:43 --> 0:22:46
But I saw a video recently.

424
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I can't quite remember where it was now, but he was extremely strategic.

425
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So...

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Yeah, he was very...

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I think it sounded like he may have been the brains behind the kind of way that Trump came into office,

428
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you know, completely obliterated the opposition in a blizzard of executive orders.

429
0:23:12 --> 0:23:14
So they haven't got time to react.

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0:23:14 --> 0:23:17
So, you know, they wanted to react to one, say,

431
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and then by the time they got around to reacting, Trump had done another 10.

432
0:23:23 --> 0:23:24
Right.

433
0:23:25 --> 0:23:30
Well, I don't know about Steve Bannon's role in the current Trump administration,

434
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but I know that he, in his first administration, he was his advisor, his campaign advisor.

435
0:23:39 --> 0:23:41
So he's close to Trump.

436
0:23:41 --> 0:23:41
Yeah.

437
0:23:41 --> 0:23:44
He was the chief advisor, wasn't he, at one stage?

438
0:23:44 --> 0:23:45
Exactly.

439
0:23:45 --> 0:23:49
The chief strategic advisor, I think, in 2017.

440
0:23:49 --> 0:23:50
I don't know.

441
0:23:51 --> 0:23:51
Yeah.

442
0:23:52 --> 0:23:52
Something happened.

443
0:23:52 --> 0:23:57
I can't quite remember what it was, but he was kind of banished from the White House, wasn't he?

444
0:23:57 --> 0:23:57
I don't know what...

445
0:23:57 --> 0:23:58
Do you remember what that was for?

446
0:23:59 --> 0:24:01
He was banished from the White House.

447
0:24:01 --> 0:24:03
At least I didn't hear about that.

448
0:24:04 --> 0:24:06
But he just continued with his war room.

449
0:24:07 --> 0:24:11
But I mean, when I was in Mar-a-Lago in November, he was there.

450
0:24:11 --> 0:24:19
So it's not like that they, you know, had a disagreement or anything.

451
0:24:20 --> 0:24:21
They didn't, you know...

452
0:24:23 --> 0:24:25
Well, yes, but I can't remember.

453
0:24:25 --> 0:24:26
Something happened.

454
0:24:27 --> 0:24:30
Didn't Trump sack him?

455
0:24:30 --> 0:24:32
But maybe that was for someone else's benefit.

456
0:24:34 --> 0:24:35
I don't think so.

457
0:24:35 --> 0:24:39
I mean, I would know if that had happened.

458
0:24:39 --> 0:24:43
It might have had something to do with J6, you know?

459
0:24:43 --> 0:24:44
Ah, yes.

460
0:24:45 --> 0:24:50
And Steve Bannon, of course, Steve Bannon was in jail too, right?

461
0:24:50 --> 0:24:50
Yeah, sure.

462
0:24:51 --> 0:24:51
Right.

463
0:24:51 --> 0:24:55
So I mean, there was like this lawfare going on against him too.

464
0:24:55 --> 0:24:59
But there was no falling out between Trump and Bannon.

465
0:25:01 --> 0:25:04
No, I think behind the scenes, they're still talking a lot.

466
0:25:04 --> 0:25:09
But officially, I think Trump, you know, was required to...

467
0:25:09 --> 0:25:12
Well, maybe because of the lawfare against him.

468
0:25:12 --> 0:25:13
That might be the case, yeah.

469
0:25:14 --> 0:25:14
Yeah.

470
0:25:17 --> 0:25:25
So what did you pick anything up from the MAGA movement in the CPAC conference?

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0:25:25 --> 0:25:28
Or what was the main things in your opinion, if you can remember?

472
0:25:29 --> 0:25:33
Well, like I said, it's just, you know, coming together with like-minded people

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0:25:33 --> 0:25:35
and just exchanging.

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0:25:35 --> 0:25:39
What I'm really, or have been trying the past year is

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0:25:40 --> 0:25:46
to get people to understand that this is not only a problem they're having in the United States.

476
0:25:47 --> 0:25:53
It's not only a problem we are having in Germany or the English have in England

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0:25:53 --> 0:25:55
or the Italians in Italy.

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0:25:55 --> 0:26:01
We are facing the same difficulties everywhere, especially in the Western democracies, right?

479
0:26:02 --> 0:26:06
And it has become abundantly clear during the so-called pandemic,

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0:26:07 --> 0:26:14
the infringement on fundamental rights or even the shift or reframing of fundamental rights,

481
0:26:14 --> 0:26:17
how they are now privileges that the government can grant or withhold,

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0:26:17 --> 0:26:19
you know, depending on how you behave.

483
0:26:21 --> 0:26:25
So this whole shift in paradigm, that is what we're seeing in,

484
0:26:25 --> 0:26:27
like I said, every single Western democracy.

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0:26:28 --> 0:26:34
And, you know, that admiration, they all of a sudden head for China,

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0:26:34 --> 0:26:39
in the way they handled the so-called pandemic.

487
0:26:39 --> 0:26:41
It was quite interesting to see.

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0:26:42 --> 0:26:47
But why did they focus on pretty much the Western democracies?

489
0:26:47 --> 0:26:51
Or why do I stress it to the extent that I do?

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0:26:52 --> 0:26:53
It's very simple.

491
0:26:54 --> 0:26:57
They didn't have to brainwash the people in China.

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0:26:58 --> 0:27:02
They didn't have to reframe fundamental rights into privileges because

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that already is a totalitarian regime.

494
0:27:05 --> 0:27:07
They didn't need to do any of that, right?

495
0:27:07 --> 0:27:12
They just gave the order and, you know, people that didn't comply.

496
0:27:12 --> 0:27:17
I mean, they literally bricked them in to their apartments to make sure

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0:27:17 --> 0:27:19
that they would not leave, right?

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0:27:19 --> 0:27:21
So completely totalitarian.

499
0:27:21 --> 0:27:25
But in the Western democracies, they couldn't do that, right?

500
0:27:25 --> 0:27:29
I mean, all hell would have broken loose if your government had showed up

501
0:27:29 --> 0:27:34
and literally bricked you into your home that you couldn't even leave anymore.

502
0:27:34 --> 0:27:42
Although, Christine, they did put fences around the Manchester University students.

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0:27:43 --> 0:27:45
I remember that thinking, wow, that's amazing.

504
0:27:47 --> 0:27:53
They essentially locked them into their kind of student residences, you know?

505
0:27:53 --> 0:28:01
I remember they had these metal, almost like a cage outside the students' buildings.

506
0:28:01 --> 0:28:03
It's absolutely extraordinary, isn't it?

507
0:28:03 --> 0:28:12
Yeah, but still, they couldn't pull through the way they did it in China, right?

508
0:28:13 --> 0:28:18
So, you know, separating children from their parents, you know,

509
0:28:19 --> 0:28:23
if you remember these images of like little tiny kids, right?

510
0:28:23 --> 0:28:27
In these overalls, they were way too big, right?

511
0:28:27 --> 0:28:29
They could carry them.

512
0:28:29 --> 0:28:33
I mean, we're talking to one and two-year-old children, you know,

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being escorted off to quarantine camps, having to leave their parents.

514
0:28:37 --> 0:28:39
I mean, this is insane.

515
0:28:40 --> 0:28:43
But they couldn't do that, like I said, in the Western democracies,

516
0:28:43 --> 0:28:45
because all hell would have broken loose, right?

517
0:28:45 --> 0:28:47
Here they needed to have a different approach.

518
0:28:48 --> 0:28:54
And that was stigmatizing people, ostracizing people, shaming them, right?

519
0:28:55 --> 0:29:01
And this propaganda, no one is safe until everyone is safe,

520
0:29:01 --> 0:29:03
and the vaccine is safe and effective,

521
0:29:03 --> 0:29:06
and then the built back better, remember that one, right?

522
0:29:06 --> 0:29:11
So it was like the same message over and over and over again.

523
0:29:11 --> 0:29:15
That was actually a brainwashing that happened there.

524
0:29:16 --> 0:29:17
But like I said, they had to focus.

525
0:29:18 --> 0:29:19
I'm sorry?

526
0:29:20 --> 0:29:22
It was gaslighting for people like you and me.

527
0:29:23 --> 0:29:25
Yeah, of course.

528
0:29:25 --> 0:29:29
You know, when you're wrong and all this nonsense about no one's safe

529
0:29:29 --> 0:29:31
until everyone's safe, what a ridiculous thing.

530
0:29:31 --> 0:29:32
Yeah, I know.

531
0:29:32 --> 0:29:35
You can understand why the populations might go along with that.

532
0:29:36 --> 0:29:40
You know, at first look, it sounds OK.

533
0:29:40 --> 0:29:44
But no, it's not OK at all, because it actually completely denies individuality.

534
0:29:44 --> 0:29:46
By the way, I wanted to mention, it's interesting, isn't it?

535
0:29:46 --> 0:29:48
You mentioned the Western democracies.

536
0:29:49 --> 0:29:50
So exactly.

537
0:29:50 --> 0:29:54
But Sweden didn't need a lockdown.

538
0:29:54 --> 0:29:56
Yeah, that's what they had to focus on.

539
0:29:56 --> 0:30:02
They had to erode our understanding of freedom, democracy and the rule of law, right?

540
0:30:03 --> 0:30:08
So even freedom, individual freedom, it was now framed.

541
0:30:08 --> 0:30:11
You were selfish, you know?

542
0:30:12 --> 0:30:16
If you insist on your individual freedom, you are selfish.

543
0:30:16 --> 0:30:18
And by the way, you're killing grandma.

544
0:30:22 --> 0:30:28
So it was like, yeah, no, that was actually, I mean, to us, it may have been gaslighting.

545
0:30:28 --> 0:30:32
But to the vast majority of the population, it was brainwashing.

546
0:30:33 --> 0:30:37
Because they had no, what the government is telling us, this is just, you know,

547
0:30:38 --> 0:30:40
they're just doing that for our own good.

548
0:30:40 --> 0:30:43
So to that, it was literally brainwashing, right?

549
0:30:44 --> 0:30:49
And yeah, that's what they had to do in order to get their way.

550
0:30:49 --> 0:30:55
Christine Susan Downs is a doctor in America, but she's also a journalist, I think, or filmmaker.

551
0:30:55 --> 0:30:58
So maybe she wants to make a film about you.

552
0:30:58 --> 0:30:58
I don't know.

553
0:30:58 --> 0:30:59
Oh, I would love to.

554
0:30:59 --> 0:31:01
It would be such an honor.

555
0:31:01 --> 0:31:07
But I want to hear about the salient issues in the EU right now, the Ukraine.

556
0:31:07 --> 0:31:08
What's going on there?

557
0:31:08 --> 0:31:11
Because you're such a wealth of information on that.

558
0:31:12 --> 0:31:12
Yeah.

559
0:31:13 --> 0:31:16
Yeah, that's like the big thing right now.

560
0:31:16 --> 0:31:20
I mean, my head is just spinning, you know, ever since Friday,

561
0:31:20 --> 0:31:24
ever since that conversation in the Oval Office took place.

562
0:31:25 --> 0:31:28
And I have seen the entire 49 minutes.

563
0:31:28 --> 0:31:33
And it is important that everyone watches the entire 49 minutes,

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0:31:33 --> 0:31:38
and not just the last 10 minutes, where it kind of escalated.

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0:31:38 --> 0:31:42
Because I mean, what the media is trying to make out of it is that

566
0:31:43 --> 0:31:48
JD Vance and Donald Trump, they ganged up on Zelensky and, you know,

567
0:31:48 --> 0:31:51
lured him into a trap and all of this.

568
0:31:51 --> 0:31:55
But if you watch the entire thing, you will realize in the beginning,

569
0:31:55 --> 0:32:00
it was just, you know, the usual sit down that you see,

570
0:32:00 --> 0:32:03
you know, in Oval Office having so many times already.

571
0:32:05 --> 0:32:07
But what was interesting, so Trump was

572
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you know, they were rather amicable with each other.

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0:32:10 --> 0:32:14
They were, Trump was even joking, making, you know, jokes and stuff.

574
0:32:14 --> 0:32:20
So it was just, you know, kind of like, we would like to do this and, you know, blah, blah.

575
0:32:20 --> 0:32:22
But then when it was Zelensky's turn to speak,

576
0:32:24 --> 0:32:26
it was quite interesting what he had to say.

577
0:32:27 --> 0:32:29
He was agreeing, of course, with Trump.

578
0:32:30 --> 0:32:36
But he found a way to criticize him, even in, you know, the first, like, let's say,

579
0:32:38 --> 0:32:41
40 minutes, 30 minutes, 40 minutes or whatever.

580
0:32:42 --> 0:32:47
And he made it clear that, well, he didn't want to ceasefire.

581
0:32:47 --> 0:32:51
What he wanted, and the wording is interesting here,

582
0:32:51 --> 0:32:56
he wants not just the peace deal, he wants a just and lasting peace deal.

583
0:32:57 --> 0:33:03
So, you know, if you stick these like, like, adjectives in front of a word,

584
0:33:03 --> 0:33:09
what you're actually doing is you're, that's conditioning the result, right?

585
0:33:09 --> 0:33:11
You put a condition on that.

586
0:33:11 --> 0:33:15
And from what I got from that, when he was speaking like that, is,

587
0:33:17 --> 0:33:22
he was also speaking about calling Trump like names.

588
0:33:22 --> 0:33:24
He called him killer two times.

589
0:33:24 --> 0:33:26
He called him terrorist.

590
0:33:26 --> 0:33:28
He called him murderer, right?

591
0:33:28 --> 0:33:34
And if you are out to get a peace deal with your adversary, you know,

592
0:33:34 --> 0:33:36
you might not want to call him names.

593
0:33:37 --> 0:33:40
That's always a bad thing to do, right?

594
0:33:40 --> 0:33:44
At least if you're honest about, you know, wanting peace, you shouldn't do that.

595
0:33:45 --> 0:33:51
And then he said something along the lines that, yeah, of course, we want peace.

596
0:33:51 --> 0:33:59
But of course, we can't give this killer, we can't give this killer Ukrainian territory.

597
0:33:59 --> 0:34:08
So it was already clear he is dreaming of getting the status quo of 22 back, right?

598
0:34:09 --> 0:34:12
Which at this point, I think it's impossible.

599
0:34:13 --> 0:34:20
Had they done, had they had negotiations, let's say in March, April, May, June,

600
0:34:20 --> 0:34:27
even to the end of the year of 22, when it wasn't quite clear how this was going to pan out, right?

601
0:34:28 --> 0:34:32
Yeah, it would have been achievable, right?

602
0:34:32 --> 0:34:38
So Putin would have been told, look here, you cannot invade another country with military means,

603
0:34:38 --> 0:34:39
which he can't.

604
0:34:39 --> 0:34:41
And, you know, Zelensky is right as that.

605
0:34:41 --> 0:34:45
Putin there is the aggressor in terms of invading Ukraine.

606
0:34:46 --> 0:34:47
Totally fine.

607
0:34:47 --> 0:34:48
Totally fine.

608
0:34:48 --> 0:34:51
But it might have been possible in 22.

609
0:34:52 --> 0:34:56
But now, I mean, we're three years into this war.

610
0:34:57 --> 0:35:04
And the way it's now, it's like, why should Putin, you know, surrender any territory?

611
0:35:04 --> 0:35:06
He doesn't have to, right?

612
0:35:07 --> 0:35:09
I mean, Ukraine is not going to win this war.

613
0:35:09 --> 0:35:10
He isn't.

614
0:35:11 --> 0:35:16
So and what the allies did, the European Union.

615
0:35:16 --> 0:35:21
Oh, yeah, we're supporting Zelensky and, you know, Putin is a bad guy, blah, blah, blah.

616
0:35:21 --> 0:35:27
But what did Germany, for instance, in that example, what did Germany do to back up Ukraine?

617
0:35:28 --> 0:35:30
They sent 50 helmets.

618
0:35:31 --> 0:35:33
50 helmets.

619
0:35:33 --> 0:35:34
I'm repeating that.

620
0:35:34 --> 0:35:36
50 helmets.

621
0:35:37 --> 0:35:42
And they thought if we sent those 50 helmets, right, then Putin is going to, you know, just

622
0:35:42 --> 0:35:43
roll over and play dead.

623
0:35:44 --> 0:35:46
Yeah, well, that didn't happen, right?

624
0:35:47 --> 0:35:48
It was ridiculous, wasn't it?

625
0:35:48 --> 0:35:50
It was totally ridiculous.

626
0:35:50 --> 0:35:54
So and the thing is this, all they did was talk, right?

627
0:35:55 --> 0:36:00
They didn't back their talk up with, you know, heavy weapons.

628
0:36:00 --> 0:36:02
They didn't do that, right?

629
0:36:02 --> 0:36:05
So that's what got us in the situation we are in now.

630
0:36:06 --> 0:36:10
And now I have to say, look, why should Putin have to surrender anything?

631
0:36:11 --> 0:36:11
Right.

632
0:36:12 --> 0:36:15
So if Ukraine was smart, but Zelensky unfortunately isn't smart,

633
0:36:17 --> 0:36:22
he would just try to salvage as much of his country as possible.

634
0:36:23 --> 0:36:29
But he is not in the position, and Trump said it, he doesn't have the cards, right, to make

635
0:36:29 --> 0:36:30
any demands.

636
0:36:30 --> 0:36:31
But this...

637
0:36:31 --> 0:36:36
And Zelensky said straight, Christine, he said straight away, he said, we're not playing cards.

638
0:36:36 --> 0:36:38
I know, I know.

639
0:36:38 --> 0:36:42
But it's like, I mean, you know, he cannot make any demands.

640
0:36:43 --> 0:36:44
And now we are in a situation.

641
0:36:44 --> 0:36:49
So I mean, like I said, this whole conversation in the Oval Office,

642
0:36:51 --> 0:36:52
Zelensky blew it completely.

643
0:36:52 --> 0:36:54
He brought it upon himself.

644
0:36:55 --> 0:36:56
He made major mistakes.

645
0:36:56 --> 0:37:02
He should have never gone into a conversation like that, not with a translator.

646
0:37:02 --> 0:37:05
I mean, his English is not that good, right?

647
0:37:05 --> 0:37:06
Absolutely.

648
0:37:06 --> 0:37:07
Yeah, he was arrogant.

649
0:37:07 --> 0:37:09
So I mean, he had a translator there.

650
0:37:10 --> 0:37:16
And from what I understand, he was the one that wanted to have this discussion in front

651
0:37:16 --> 0:37:17
of the media.

652
0:37:17 --> 0:37:18
It was him.

653
0:37:18 --> 0:37:19
Why?

654
0:37:20 --> 0:37:23
Because Zelensky, he was campaigning.

655
0:37:24 --> 0:37:26
That's what he was doing in the White House.

656
0:37:27 --> 0:37:28
You know, with the pictures.

657
0:37:28 --> 0:37:35
Oh, can I show you the pictures of our soldiers, how they're mistreated by the Russians,

658
0:37:35 --> 0:37:37
and he had before and after pictures.

659
0:37:37 --> 0:37:39
And he showed him like, what, 20 pictures, right?

660
0:37:40 --> 0:37:42
So it's like he was campaigning.

661
0:37:42 --> 0:37:44
He was campaigning.

662
0:37:44 --> 0:37:47
The American people give me money.

663
0:37:47 --> 0:37:49
I need money, money, money.

664
0:37:49 --> 0:37:51
That's what he was doing.

665
0:37:51 --> 0:37:55
And Trump, he didn't want to have any of that, right?

666
0:37:55 --> 0:38:02
So yeah, and they told him point blank, look here, you know, we want peace.

667
0:38:02 --> 0:38:05
And you said you don't want to ceasefire.

668
0:38:05 --> 0:38:06
And he said that repeatedly.

669
0:38:06 --> 0:38:07
Repeatedly.

670
0:38:08 --> 0:38:11
He doesn't want to have a ceasefire, not without security guarantees.

671
0:38:11 --> 0:38:16
But this idiot, I really can't say it any other way.

672
0:38:16 --> 0:38:17
He did not even get.

673
0:38:18 --> 0:38:25
If the United States had an economic interest in the United States, they would find a way

674
0:38:25 --> 0:38:27
to protect their interests.

675
0:38:27 --> 0:38:31
That was the security guarantee, for God's sakes, right?

676
0:38:31 --> 0:38:35
But it wasn't all good enough for Zelensky.

677
0:38:35 --> 0:38:37
So anyway, here we are now.

678
0:38:38 --> 0:38:46
And so Trump said what he did, you know, don't want to sign that deal.

679
0:38:46 --> 0:38:48
Well, guess what?

680
0:38:48 --> 0:38:51
You're not going to have that deal anymore because we're pulling out.

681
0:38:51 --> 0:38:56
And then what do the European leaders do, right?

682
0:38:56 --> 0:39:03
They back Zelensky, welcoming back in Europe like he was a pop star or a king of some kind.

683
0:39:04 --> 0:39:08
And it's interesting to know how they are now finally.

684
0:39:08 --> 0:39:12
There was like an interesting photo in the newspapers.

685
0:39:13 --> 0:39:16
There was like a picture of all of them getting together in London.

686
0:39:17 --> 0:39:24
And the caption read, the coalition of the willing are now coming up with a new strategy

687
0:39:24 --> 0:39:26
or their own strategy, right?

688
0:39:28 --> 0:39:29
Well, it's kind of interesting.

689
0:39:29 --> 0:39:30
Well, it's not going to result in.

690
0:39:31 --> 0:39:33
So I never understood, Christine.

691
0:39:33 --> 0:39:38
How did anybody ever think that Russia would be defeated by Ukraine?

692
0:39:38 --> 0:39:41
It was just ridiculous in the beginning.

693
0:39:41 --> 0:39:42
It still is ridiculous.

694
0:39:42 --> 0:39:43
It was always ridiculous.

695
0:39:43 --> 0:39:45
I think Trump gets it.

696
0:39:45 --> 0:39:47
But I know.

697
0:39:47 --> 0:39:50
But the thing is this, I mean, you know, this coalition of the willing,

698
0:39:51 --> 0:39:56
I mean, had it been a coalition of the able, you might have actually taken it seriously.

699
0:39:57 --> 0:40:00
But like this, they're laughing stock.

700
0:40:00 --> 0:40:02
They really are laughing stock.

701
0:40:02 --> 0:40:03
And that's the other thing.

702
0:40:03 --> 0:40:05
Zelensky knows perfectly well.

703
0:40:07 --> 0:40:14
He will not get back the country that it was in 22 in terms of territory.

704
0:40:14 --> 0:40:21
The only way, the only way he stands a chance of getting at least some of it back

705
0:40:21 --> 0:40:28
or the most of it back is actually if the United States put boots on the ground

706
0:40:29 --> 0:40:33
and as Stammer said, boots on the ground and planes in the air.

707
0:40:33 --> 0:40:37
That's what he was trying to get the Americans to do.

708
0:40:37 --> 0:40:37
Right.

709
0:40:37 --> 0:40:39
The Americans will never do that.

710
0:40:39 --> 0:40:40
Exactly.

711
0:40:40 --> 0:40:44
But Keir Stammer said we put boots on the ground and planes in the air.

712
0:40:44 --> 0:40:46
And like, what planes are you talking about?

713
0:40:46 --> 0:40:49
You know, did you see when Trump said to Stammer?

714
0:40:52 --> 0:40:56
So he said to Stammer because Stammer was talking big in the White House, you know,

715
0:40:56 --> 0:40:57
and Trump was being diplomatic.

716
0:40:57 --> 0:41:01
But he did say to him, so you're going to take on Russia on your own, are you?

717
0:41:02 --> 0:41:04
Stammer shrugged his shoulders.

718
0:41:05 --> 0:41:05
I know.

719
0:41:06 --> 0:41:07
But it's ridiculous.

720
0:41:07 --> 0:41:14
So they, you know, all back Zelensky and but even Stammer said, you know, yeah,

721
0:41:14 --> 0:41:17
we put boots on the ground and planes in the air.

722
0:41:18 --> 0:41:22
But that he acknowledged that needs a strong US backing.

723
0:41:23 --> 0:41:25
But there is no US backing.

724
0:41:25 --> 0:41:27
And in terms of that, forget it.

725
0:41:27 --> 0:41:35
So Christine, many European countries, Christine, for far too long have,

726
0:41:35 --> 0:41:40
without giving credit to America, depended on America for their security from Russia.

727
0:41:40 --> 0:41:41
Yes.

728
0:41:41 --> 0:41:45
There is no way that any European nation or any combination of European nations

729
0:41:45 --> 0:41:47
could take on Russia.

730
0:41:47 --> 0:41:52
And the point is that Trump's absolutely right.

731
0:41:52 --> 0:41:56
The Europeans are very ungrateful to America and America's been taken for a ride.

732
0:41:57 --> 0:41:59
I mean, America has got faults.

733
0:41:59 --> 0:42:07
But as far as that goes, the security of Europe has always depended on the United States of America.

734
0:42:07 --> 0:42:07
Right.

735
0:42:07 --> 0:42:09
Since the end of the Second World War.

736
0:42:10 --> 0:42:18
The Europeans were so freaking busy with ensuring that there were daycare centers in the barracks.

737
0:42:18 --> 0:42:18
Right.

738
0:42:19 --> 0:42:29
They were so preoccupied with making sure that all the transgender people had whatever they needed.

739
0:42:29 --> 0:42:33
Their surgeries, cross hormone.

740
0:42:33 --> 0:42:34
I mean, seriously.

741
0:42:34 --> 0:42:36
And the point is just this.

742
0:42:37 --> 0:42:45
By the time that the whatever German tanks they are left, by the time they are fully loaded,

743
0:42:45 --> 0:42:52
because they probably threw them all out, the conventional tanks that now have E tanks, right?

744
0:42:52 --> 0:42:55
By the time they are all filled up, the war is over.

745
0:42:55 --> 0:42:57
And it's just ridiculous.

746
0:42:58 --> 0:43:01
In a war, I mean, if you honestly want to fight a war,

747
0:43:01 --> 0:43:08
you can't preoccupy yourself with what kind of pronouns the soldiers have.

748
0:43:08 --> 0:43:08
Right.

749
0:43:08 --> 0:43:11
This is all ridiculous BS.

750
0:43:11 --> 0:43:13
But that's what they were preoccupied with.

751
0:43:14 --> 0:43:17
So Christine, what I was thinking was, you know, Trump, whatever you think about Trump,

752
0:43:17 --> 0:43:21
there does seem to be a large part of him which is interested in the truth.

753
0:43:21 --> 0:43:26
He gets some things wrong, but he's pretty good actually as far as the truth is concerned.

754
0:43:26 --> 0:43:34
In Europe, we've got leaders who are and politicians almost wholesale who do not pursue the truth.

755
0:43:34 --> 0:43:36
And now you can see the difference.

756
0:43:38 --> 0:43:39
Seeking the truth.

757
0:43:39 --> 0:43:40
Look how strong you can become.

758
0:43:40 --> 0:43:42
Look at Biden.

759
0:43:42 --> 0:43:42
Very weak.

760
0:43:43 --> 0:43:47
And Europe looks pathetic by America now.

761
0:43:47 --> 0:43:48
Yeah, I know.

762
0:43:49 --> 0:43:50
The thing is just this.

763
0:43:51 --> 0:44:01
So a man that wants to negotiate a peace deal is being called a fascist and a Nazi.

764
0:44:02 --> 0:44:10
And the ones that want to go to war are now, you know, the great Democrats.

765
0:44:10 --> 0:44:11
The peace lovers, yeah.

766
0:44:12 --> 0:44:13
Wow.

767
0:44:13 --> 0:44:13
Seriously.

768
0:44:13 --> 0:44:14
Very good, Christine.

769
0:44:14 --> 0:44:17
So, oh, sorry, Susan, have you finished?

770
0:44:17 --> 0:44:19
Did you have a good answer to your question?

771
0:44:20 --> 0:44:26
I just want to know what's going on there because it looked like to me like Europe wanted

772
0:44:26 --> 0:44:28
to start World War III and I'm just pulling out.

773
0:44:28 --> 0:44:29
It does look like this.

774
0:44:29 --> 0:44:30
Yeah.

775
0:44:30 --> 0:44:33
And you know, the kicker is this.

776
0:44:33 --> 0:44:34
Okay.

777
0:44:34 --> 0:44:36
So they had their summit in London.

778
0:44:37 --> 0:44:43
And you may know that Germany, we just had elections like two weeks ago

779
0:44:44 --> 0:44:50
and a new Bundestag was elected, but the new Bundestag isn't in office yet.

780
0:44:50 --> 0:44:51
Right.

781
0:44:51 --> 0:44:57
So there is like another two weeks before the newly elected Bundestag will actually

782
0:44:57 --> 0:44:59
get into power and get into office.

783
0:44:59 --> 0:45:02
And guess what they're doing next week?

784
0:45:03 --> 0:45:10
They're having a sitting of the Bundestag, of the old Bundestag, to vote on what they call

785
0:45:12 --> 0:45:18
extraordinary wealth, something like that, extraordinary assets, something like that,

786
0:45:19 --> 0:45:20
which of course is debt.

787
0:45:21 --> 0:45:22
And they want to go into debt.

788
0:45:23 --> 0:45:25
Now, wait for it.

789
0:45:25 --> 0:45:26
Nine hundred billion.

790
0:45:28 --> 0:45:29
That's what they want to do.

791
0:45:30 --> 0:45:32
And they want to do it with the old Bundestag.

792
0:45:33 --> 0:45:37
They can't wait for the new Bundestag to get into office because then they would not be able

793
0:45:37 --> 0:45:46
to pass that package because the AfD My Party and the left who are also opposed toward the

794
0:45:46 --> 0:45:51
left-left, we would have enough votes in the Bundestag to block it.

795
0:45:52 --> 0:45:52
Right.

796
0:45:52 --> 0:45:59
So the old Bundestag, even though we had elections two weeks ago, will pass next week.

797
0:46:00 --> 0:46:07
A package for nine hundred billion euros to go to Ukraine.

798
0:46:08 --> 0:46:08
Wow.

799
0:46:09 --> 0:46:10
Can you imagine?

800
0:46:11 --> 0:46:13
From which nations is that?

801
0:46:14 --> 0:46:14
Germany.

802
0:46:15 --> 0:46:15
Germany.

803
0:46:15 --> 0:46:16
Germany.

804
0:46:16 --> 0:46:16
Yes.

805
0:46:16 --> 0:46:17
That's a trillion dollars.

806
0:46:19 --> 0:46:19
Yeah.

807
0:46:20 --> 0:46:25
So it's not entirely going to Ukraine.

808
0:46:25 --> 0:46:27
It will also rebuild our military.

809
0:46:27 --> 0:46:32
It will invest into infrastructure, military infrastructure and all of that that have been

810
0:46:32 --> 0:46:32
neglected.

811
0:46:32 --> 0:46:33
Right.

812
0:46:34 --> 0:46:35
In the past years.

813
0:46:35 --> 0:46:37
But like I said, this is insane.

814
0:46:37 --> 0:46:38
This is insane.

815
0:46:39 --> 0:46:42
Nine hundred billion euros.

816
0:46:44 --> 0:46:54
And another thing about Zelensky, Christine, he once he kept going on about about Ukraine

817
0:46:54 --> 0:46:55
joining NATO.

818
0:46:56 --> 0:46:56
Oh, yeah.

819
0:46:57 --> 0:47:01
Trump Trump just repeatedly said it's not going to happen.

820
0:47:02 --> 0:47:03
Yes.

821
0:47:03 --> 0:47:07
If they couldn't get into their heads that it's not going to happen that Ukraine

822
0:47:07 --> 0:47:08
join NATO.

823
0:47:08 --> 0:47:09
Yeah.

824
0:47:09 --> 0:47:16
And now we are actually looking at a situation Trump might very well consider withdrawing

825
0:47:16 --> 0:47:17
from NATO.

826
0:47:17 --> 0:47:17
Yes.

827
0:47:18 --> 0:47:19
Then what?

828
0:47:20 --> 0:47:21
Then what?

829
0:47:21 --> 0:47:21
Right.

830
0:47:21 --> 0:47:23
Well, then there'll be a panic.

831
0:47:24 --> 0:47:26
But yeah, Christine, they're not going to be able to defend

832
0:47:26 --> 0:47:32
themselves against Russia, not a Russia will attack, but because they don't they don't

833
0:47:32 --> 0:47:35
want to know what the truth is about anything, not just the Ukraine.

834
0:47:35 --> 0:47:36
I know.

835
0:47:36 --> 0:47:37
So they are weak.

836
0:47:37 --> 0:47:39
And you saw it with Biden.

837
0:47:39 --> 0:47:44
Biden was totally directionless, except when it came to trans and all that nonsense.

838
0:47:44 --> 0:47:47
But he was weak because he wasn't interested in the truth.

839
0:47:47 --> 0:47:52
Trump is powerful because he is interested in the truth and he's got the truth by him.

840
0:47:52 --> 0:47:53
I think that's the difference.

841
0:47:54 --> 0:47:55
So yeah.

842
0:47:55 --> 0:48:02
No, I think that's actually the reason why they hate Trump so much is because Trump is

843
0:48:02 --> 0:48:08
simply doing what they have been telling us for decades that it is impossible to do.

844
0:48:08 --> 0:48:09
It could it can't be done.

845
0:48:10 --> 0:48:11
Right.

846
0:48:11 --> 0:48:13
Like, for example, closing the borders.

847
0:48:13 --> 0:48:14
It's impossible.

848
0:48:15 --> 0:48:17
You can't close the borders.

849
0:48:17 --> 0:48:18
It's impossible.

850
0:48:18 --> 0:48:19
And Trump is simply doing it.

851
0:48:19 --> 0:48:21
Now, look, I just did it.

852
0:48:21 --> 0:48:21
Right.

853
0:48:21 --> 0:48:23
So he's proving them liars.

854
0:48:23 --> 0:48:24
And that's why they hate him so much.

855
0:48:25 --> 0:48:26
He builds a 20 foot wall.

856
0:48:26 --> 0:48:27
Yeah.

857
0:48:27 --> 0:48:29
Anyway, so good for Trump.

858
0:48:30 --> 0:48:33
So Trump may not be the real deal.

859
0:48:33 --> 0:48:38
And he's, you know, we're hearing a lot about AI, which I don't like, and the mRNA injections,

860
0:48:38 --> 0:48:41
which doesn't bother me quite as much.

861
0:48:42 --> 0:48:46
But the AI really disturbs me because that's going to take our humanity away from us.

862
0:48:46 --> 0:48:49
And that is exactly what they're intending to do.

863
0:48:49 --> 0:48:52
But Trump doesn't understand that, unfortunately.

864
0:48:52 --> 0:48:53
It doesn't seem to be anyway.

865
0:48:54 --> 0:48:57
Mark Steele has got a question for you, Christine.

866
0:48:58 --> 0:48:59
Hi, Christine.

867
0:49:00 --> 0:49:01
Great to see you back.

868
0:49:02 --> 0:49:04
Pleased to see that you're making headway in Germany.

869
0:49:05 --> 0:49:10
One of the things what I'm going to state is that it'll be extremely difficult for

870
0:49:10 --> 0:49:16
Western troops to be deployed in Ukraine due to the fact that they've all got track

871
0:49:16 --> 0:49:22
trace termination technology antennas, graphite ferritic nanometamaterial antennas.

872
0:49:22 --> 0:49:24
Most people in the EU do.

873
0:49:25 --> 0:49:29
What we've discovered in the cityscapes, C40 cities,

874
0:49:30 --> 0:49:35
is phased array electronic weaponry on traffic infrastructure.

875
0:49:35 --> 0:49:39
I discovered it in London due to, I don't know if you've heard about them,

876
0:49:39 --> 0:49:41
the bladerunners who chop these things down.

877
0:49:42 --> 0:49:45
I've been an investigator, this electronic assault weaponry.

878
0:49:46 --> 0:49:53
It's a joint venture between Thales, Siemens, D&D, Dab, just about everybody.

879
0:49:53 --> 0:49:59
But the really interesting part about it, the controlling mind called Jamal,

880
0:49:59 --> 0:50:00
it's Thales technology.

881
0:50:01 --> 0:50:03
It's manufactured in China.

882
0:50:03 --> 0:50:08
So we've got an illegal high speed modem which controls this whole weapons,

883
0:50:08 --> 0:50:10
this electronic assault weapon system.

884
0:50:10 --> 0:50:12
It's operated by an EI.

885
0:50:12 --> 0:50:14
Is Stevens concerned about EI?

886
0:50:14 --> 0:50:18
Well, I'd be very concerned about EI, especially if I had that track trace

887
0:50:18 --> 0:50:21
termination technology injected.

888
0:50:21 --> 0:50:25
And it's the operating platform is called Azure.

889
0:50:25 --> 0:50:31
It's Microsoft's, and it's the collaboration between Lockheed Martin and Thales.

890
0:50:31 --> 0:50:37
So we've got the whole military industrial complex planning a mass murder.

891
0:50:39 --> 0:50:41
They've injected more soldiers.

892
0:50:41 --> 0:50:45
The Russians have some very sophisticated electronic assault weapon, as I know.

893
0:50:45 --> 0:50:47
It's never been used yet.

894
0:50:48 --> 0:50:53
And what I'm going to suggest is if anybody deploys in large numbers in that battle space,

895
0:50:54 --> 0:50:55
they're not going to last very long.

896
0:50:56 --> 0:51:01
The equipment was developed by the DOD in DARPA to track trace and terminate

897
0:51:01 --> 0:51:03
lost soldiers on a battlefield.

898
0:51:03 --> 0:51:05
As a consequence, you can switch them off.

899
0:51:05 --> 0:51:09
So it's going to be quite an interesting time, but I would definitely

900
0:51:09 --> 0:51:19
take a look at a roundabout cityscapes for innocuous looking transmitters on traffic

901
0:51:19 --> 0:51:24
infrastructure, because all to the same plants, all world economic forum, C40 city, George Soros

902
0:51:24 --> 0:51:25
agenda.

903
0:51:26 --> 0:51:27
It's all in connect.

904
0:51:27 --> 0:51:34
So up to now, I would suggest it be very dangerous for Donald Trump to travel to London.

905
0:51:35 --> 0:51:38
You can shoot directly through vehicles with this equipment.

906
0:51:38 --> 0:51:41
There's not much things stop it.

907
0:51:41 --> 0:51:43
It's what's called fusion technology.

908
0:51:43 --> 0:51:48
It's a link between laser detection, ranging and radar directional weapons.

909
0:51:48 --> 0:51:51
So we've discovered quite a lot of it in the London area.

910
0:51:52 --> 0:51:57
Anybody, any diplomats, any foreign nationals who can be tracked,

911
0:51:57 --> 0:52:02
trace, there'll be an awful lot who do and have, you know, the they've had the COVID-19

912
0:52:02 --> 0:52:03
injection.

913
0:52:03 --> 0:52:06
They are exhibiting the media access code.

914
0:52:06 --> 0:52:08
I mean, I test them all the time with a blue.

915
0:52:08 --> 0:52:10
I've got a blue to scanner.

916
0:52:10 --> 0:52:15
I go into restaurants and I check and see how many people are exhibiting the media access

917
0:52:15 --> 0:52:15
code.

918
0:52:15 --> 0:52:18
It's quite, quite, quite interesting.

919
0:52:18 --> 0:52:23
This is a project between the Ministry of Defense and the Bundeswehr.

920
0:52:23 --> 0:52:25
So they're all involved in it.

921
0:52:26 --> 0:52:28
It is quite interesting.

922
0:52:28 --> 0:52:29
We have caught them.

923
0:52:29 --> 0:52:31
And I think the fact that there's a war in Ukraine.

924
0:52:32 --> 0:52:34
Actually can't pull the trigger.

925
0:52:34 --> 0:52:39
And I'm just trying to find out, Christine, how many people do you think in the EU?

926
0:52:40 --> 0:52:41
No, anything about this.

927
0:52:44 --> 0:52:49
Probably pretty much like what five or 10 people at the most.

928
0:52:50 --> 0:52:50
Yeah.

929
0:52:51 --> 0:52:51
Yeah.

930
0:52:51 --> 0:52:58
I mean, it's like that is the problem, you know, people enlarge, they completely lost

931
0:52:58 --> 0:52:59
their critical thinking.

932
0:53:00 --> 0:53:00
Right.

933
0:53:01 --> 0:53:04
They don't they don't question anything anymore.

934
0:53:04 --> 0:53:09
You know, if their TV tells them, you know, hey, you need to get an mRNA injection

935
0:53:09 --> 0:53:10
because it's good for you.

936
0:53:10 --> 0:53:12
You know, they run out and do it.

937
0:53:12 --> 0:53:16
But there is like no questioning anything anymore.

938
0:53:16 --> 0:53:18
So and that pertains to a lot of issues.

939
0:53:18 --> 0:53:23
And what you've just been telling me, I don't know a whole lot about that.

940
0:53:23 --> 0:53:30
I know about, you know, there is some technology out there to, yeah, possibly even

941
0:53:30 --> 0:53:31
manipulate your mind.

942
0:53:31 --> 0:53:32
Right.

943
0:53:32 --> 0:53:36
But I don't know a whole lot about that.

944
0:53:36 --> 0:53:37
I really don't.

945
0:53:38 --> 0:53:43
There's a there's a unit that's a phased-area weapon system.

946
0:53:44 --> 0:53:49
It actually comes that specifically that's a radar gun site.

947
0:53:49 --> 0:53:52
It's actually got a gun site and it aim it into the traffic.

948
0:53:53 --> 0:53:56
This piece, yes, a phased-area antenna.

949
0:53:56 --> 0:53:57
All right.

950
0:53:57 --> 0:53:59
It's what's called rad hardened.

951
0:53:59 --> 0:54:04
How I know that you've got it, you've actually got your resistor plate here.

952
0:54:05 --> 0:54:11
You've then got this aluminium block and the electronic piece plugs in here

953
0:54:11 --> 0:54:15
because obviously you don't want the antenna to burn out your electronics.

954
0:54:15 --> 0:54:19
So that's actually part of a weapon system which we discovered.

955
0:54:23 --> 0:54:24
This piece of hardware.

956
0:54:25 --> 0:54:28
There's the electronics and electronics.

957
0:54:28 --> 0:54:31
You'll see how I know it's rad hardened.

958
0:54:31 --> 0:54:34
What I mean by that is you protect the electronics.

959
0:54:34 --> 0:54:36
You see the antenna design.

960
0:54:37 --> 0:54:39
The antennas on this side of the block.

961
0:54:40 --> 0:54:42
You've then got all that protection.

962
0:54:42 --> 0:54:46
You've got a resistor plate here and then the electronics is on the back side.

963
0:54:46 --> 0:54:48
She's the one to burn them out.

964
0:54:48 --> 0:54:53
So that tells me and it's got enough capacitance, enough induction, enough capacitance.

965
0:54:53 --> 0:54:56
It'd be really pretty, pretty powerful.

966
0:54:56 --> 0:55:01
And that sits in a small unit on the top of your traffic lights with a gun sight.

967
0:55:03 --> 0:55:04
You're not ready to kill somebody?

968
0:55:08 --> 0:55:08
Yeah.

969
0:55:08 --> 0:55:09
What do you say, Mark?

970
0:55:10 --> 0:55:11
You want that?

971
0:55:13 --> 0:55:14
What did you say then?

972
0:55:14 --> 0:55:14
I missed it.

973
0:55:17 --> 0:55:21
These are radar detection range and phased-area weapon systems.

974
0:55:22 --> 0:55:25
I'm telling you the fact that they're not hardened, Stephen.

975
0:55:26 --> 0:55:31
If this was a normal phased-area unit, you'd actually have the electronics on this side

976
0:55:31 --> 0:55:33
because you're not going to run hot.

977
0:55:33 --> 0:55:39
When it runs hot, you have to protect the electronics which are at the back side.

978
0:55:39 --> 0:55:43
You've got an air gap plus a resistor plate to protect them plus that sink plate.

979
0:55:43 --> 0:55:45
You've got this aluminium block.

980
0:55:45 --> 0:55:47
You've got a resistor here.

981
0:55:47 --> 0:55:51
That tells me that that piece of hardware is going to run hot.

982
0:55:52 --> 0:55:53
It's a weapon system.

983
0:55:53 --> 0:55:59
These are directional electronic assault weapons that are all over cityscapes.

984
0:56:00 --> 0:56:03
Most cities in the United Kingdom, we've discovered this equipment and it works with

985
0:56:03 --> 0:56:06
another part of a piece of equipment called LIDAR.

986
0:56:07 --> 0:56:12
The LIDAR elements, what Transport for London told me,

987
0:56:14 --> 0:56:17
these are laser detection range and technology.

988
0:56:17 --> 0:56:18
So these work together.

989
0:56:18 --> 0:56:19
It's called fusion.

990
0:56:19 --> 0:56:21
So you've got two sets of antennas.

991
0:56:22 --> 0:56:24
You've got a laser detection range in part here.

992
0:56:24 --> 0:56:29
I've got a potential 174 watts and it's not killing you with four.

993
0:56:29 --> 0:56:31
So this is a laser weapon.

994
0:56:31 --> 0:56:35
It works with this antenna.

995
0:56:35 --> 0:56:36
So it's basically unstoppable.

996
0:56:36 --> 0:56:42
You've got this which can actually facial recognise the target

997
0:56:42 --> 0:56:44
and then you've got this bit.

998
0:56:44 --> 0:56:45
I can fire that through a vehicle.

999
0:56:45 --> 0:56:46
Not a problem at all.

1000
0:56:47 --> 0:56:48
Got no safety from it.

1001
0:56:51 --> 0:56:52
Very good, Mark.

1002
0:56:52 --> 0:56:54
Have you got a question for Christine?

1003
0:56:55 --> 0:57:00
Yeah, I want to ask how many people in the European Union know somebody's planning to kill them?

1004
0:57:02 --> 0:57:04
Well, it's called NeuroStrike.

1005
0:57:05 --> 0:57:10
The weapons controlled by a piece of equipment developed by Thales called its Gemalto.

1006
0:57:10 --> 0:57:13
Gemalto is actually manufactured by Hewe.

1007
0:57:13 --> 0:57:15
Hewe was already banned in 2022.

1008
0:57:16 --> 0:57:18
So you've got a Chinese control.

1009
0:57:18 --> 0:57:23
The control and mind of the laser radar weapon is Hewe.

1010
0:57:26 --> 0:57:30
And Hewe is one of the big Chinese companies, is it?

1011
0:57:30 --> 0:57:32
It's the Chinese company that were banned in 2022.

1012
0:57:33 --> 0:57:36
In fact, there was lots of warnings by the intelligence

1013
0:57:36 --> 0:57:38
and it's about this particular type of equipment.

1014
0:57:38 --> 0:57:42
It's a high-speed modem and what they've actually done, they've rebranded it.

1015
0:57:43 --> 0:57:47
Thales have rebranded it as a brand name called Gemalto.

1016
0:57:47 --> 0:57:50
Now, obviously Thales manufacture electronic assault weapons.

1017
0:57:51 --> 0:57:53
Siemens develop electronic assault weapons.

1018
0:57:53 --> 0:57:55
So we've got two companies.

1019
0:57:56 --> 0:58:00
I mean, these transmitters, these are misoscopic.

1020
0:58:00 --> 0:58:03
So I can actually look down into the nanoscale.

1021
0:58:04 --> 0:58:07
Well, I know exactly what those nanoparticles are looking for.

1022
0:58:07 --> 0:58:08
It's what people have been injected with.

1023
0:58:08 --> 0:58:09
Very good, Mark.

1024
0:58:10 --> 0:58:15
So anybody else who wants to ask a question, please stick your hand up and I'll,

1025
0:58:16 --> 0:58:18
in fact, you can get on right now if you want,

1026
0:58:18 --> 0:58:21
because we're waiting for some questions.

1027
0:58:22 --> 0:58:25
So occasionally, Christine, people on this group get a bit shy.

1028
0:58:25 --> 0:58:28
I don't know, or lazy or sleepy.

1029
0:58:30 --> 0:58:33
And we try, oh, suddenly we've got some questions.

1030
0:58:33 --> 0:58:36
So Carrie, Carrie is a medical student.

1031
0:58:36 --> 0:58:40
Carrie, Carrie is a medical doctor in America somewhere.

1032
0:58:41 --> 0:58:44
And Carrie is very shy about asking questions.

1033
0:58:44 --> 0:58:48
And who could follow what Mark Steele just said anyway?

1034
0:58:49 --> 0:58:51
So I'm getting the ball rolling.

1035
0:58:51 --> 0:58:57
And yeah, anyway, I'm hoping to get Mark Steele's information to Elon Musk, Trump, etc.

1036
0:58:57 --> 0:58:59
And I'm a very persistent bugger.

1037
0:58:59 --> 0:59:03
Okay, so that's my job these days.

1038
0:59:04 --> 0:59:07
What I wondered, Christine, is do you think,

1039
0:59:07 --> 0:59:11
there are people clamoring for the US to leave the United Nations?

1040
0:59:11 --> 0:59:13
Now, I agree that we should leave NATO.

1041
0:59:13 --> 0:59:15
100% get out of NATO now.

1042
0:59:16 --> 0:59:19
It's an anachronism as far as I'm concerned.

1043
0:59:19 --> 0:59:23
It doesn't form any kind of purpose for America at all.

1044
0:59:25 --> 0:59:31
So I am being my persistent bugger self and leave NATO, dissolve.

1045
0:59:31 --> 0:59:34
Because if US leaves, I'm sorry, but won't that just

1046
0:59:35 --> 0:59:37
all the World War Three thing will evaporate, right?

1047
0:59:38 --> 0:59:39
Yeah, what are they going to do?

1048
0:59:41 --> 0:59:44
I think that's the way out is just to leave.

1049
0:59:44 --> 0:59:49
And frankly, if I were Trump, I would go ahead and make that mineral agreement with Russia, frankly.

1050
0:59:49 --> 0:59:49
But that's me.

1051
0:59:49 --> 0:59:52
Okay, so I don't know about that end, but that's what I would do.

1052
0:59:52 --> 0:59:54
But leaving, you agree, leave NATO.

1053
0:59:56 --> 1:00:00
The whole notion that Russia wants to attack Europe, I think it's pie in the sky.

1054
1:00:00 --> 1:00:01
They've never been.

1055
1:00:02 --> 1:00:03
Russia is.

1056
1:00:03 --> 1:00:10
Our mission is the argument is that Hitler went into Poland to rescue the Germans in Poland.

1057
1:00:10 --> 1:00:11
Initially.

1058
1:00:11 --> 1:00:11
Well, that's true.

1059
1:00:12 --> 1:00:13
And yes, that's similar.

1060
1:00:13 --> 1:00:18
But that does not, you know, it's like, so that does not mean it's the same thing.

1061
1:00:19 --> 1:00:19
You know what I'm saying?

1062
1:00:19 --> 1:00:24
That's that's what I've heard from military people who are brainwashed that I know.

1063
1:00:25 --> 1:00:27
But he's another Hitler.

1064
1:00:27 --> 1:00:30
He's going he's taken Crimea and he's going to go on to the whole world.

1065
1:00:31 --> 1:00:33
Well, you know, he's not me.

1066
1:00:34 --> 1:00:37
It's not as if we need these little countries, is it?

1067
1:00:37 --> 1:00:38
Carrie?

1068
1:00:39 --> 1:00:44
Well, you know, even Germany, there are a lot of reasons.

1069
1:00:44 --> 1:00:48
I'd say Russia proved itself by not bombing the hell out of us.

1070
1:00:48 --> 1:00:51
Frankly, I thought we were all going to die.

1071
1:00:51 --> 1:00:54
I thought this is thermonuclear Armageddon, Carmageddon.

1072
1:00:54 --> 1:00:57
It's over with, you know, I don't know if you did, but I did.

1073
1:00:58 --> 1:00:59
It's like it's over.

1074
1:00:59 --> 1:01:02
I'm like, oh, God, I love and I was like, I even wrote Putin.

1075
1:01:02 --> 1:01:03
Thank you.

1076
1:01:03 --> 1:01:04
Thank you.

1077
1:01:04 --> 1:01:07
Thank you so much for being patient and not killing us.

1078
1:01:07 --> 1:01:10
You know, what a good Christmas present.

1079
1:01:10 --> 1:01:11
All right.

1080
1:01:11 --> 1:01:12
So that's me.

1081
1:01:12 --> 1:01:15
I mean, this man is he's got four hawks on his back, too.

1082
1:01:15 --> 1:01:18
So I'm thinking I don't care what he did.

1083
1:01:18 --> 1:01:20
KGB, whatever right now.

1084
1:01:20 --> 1:01:22
He's making sense to me.

1085
1:01:22 --> 1:01:23
All right.

1086
1:01:23 --> 1:01:25
A lot of what he's doing is making sense.

1087
1:01:25 --> 1:01:29
And the man didn't kill us all, didn't start World War Three, even though he's directly

1088
1:01:29 --> 1:01:31
provoked by the US.

1089
1:01:31 --> 1:01:31
I'm sorry.

1090
1:01:31 --> 1:01:33
You know, so anyway, that's my idea.

1091
1:01:33 --> 1:01:35
But you grew with Leave NATO.

1092
1:01:35 --> 1:01:35
Yay.

1093
1:01:35 --> 1:01:37
Let's just solve that garbage.

1094
1:01:37 --> 1:01:39
Now, my question to you really is the UN.

1095
1:01:40 --> 1:01:42
How dangerous is the United Nations?

1096
1:01:42 --> 1:01:45
And is that is there any good?

1097
1:01:45 --> 1:01:51
I wouldn't say move out immediately, but is there any good that can come out of staying there?

1098
1:01:51 --> 1:01:54
And or is it, you know, that's my question.

1099
1:01:55 --> 1:01:55
I guess you get it.

1100
1:01:57 --> 1:01:58
Yeah, I got it.

1101
1:01:59 --> 1:02:09
The UN, you know, may have started out as a good idea, but what it involved into at this point,

1102
1:02:09 --> 1:02:14
I'm even willing to say what is doing now.

1103
1:02:14 --> 1:02:16
It's exactly the purpose for what it was founded.

1104
1:02:17 --> 1:02:23
The United Nations is pretty much just another entity.

1105
1:02:25 --> 1:02:31
To get people used to the idea that there one day will in fact be a world government.

1106
1:02:31 --> 1:02:32
Absolutely.

1107
1:02:32 --> 1:02:34
That's like a first step, right?

1108
1:02:36 --> 1:02:40
The same we have the same here in Europe with the EU institutions.

1109
1:02:41 --> 1:02:49
So in Germany, it is or in Europe, it is more difficult to convince the Europe, the peoples

1110
1:02:49 --> 1:02:56
of Europe to come under a one world government umbrella because, I mean,

1111
1:02:56 --> 1:03:03
we live on this rather small continent with so many different peoples, cultures, history,

1112
1:03:03 --> 1:03:07
languages, you know, collective memory.

1113
1:03:07 --> 1:03:10
It differs from people to people.

1114
1:03:11 --> 1:03:14
And the peoples in Europe, they're proud.

1115
1:03:14 --> 1:03:16
They're a proud people, right?

1116
1:03:17 --> 1:03:22
So you could not have just walked in and said, well, look, we're just going to, you know,

1117
1:03:22 --> 1:03:24
come together under this world government.

1118
1:03:24 --> 1:03:30
No, in Europe, they had to pull in like a stepping stone, which is the EU institutions.

1119
1:03:31 --> 1:03:36
And now the European members, they've been stripped of their sovereignty,

1120
1:03:36 --> 1:03:38
stripped of their rights.

1121
1:03:38 --> 1:03:43
Democratic principles are being removed further and further away from the people

1122
1:03:43 --> 1:03:49
to now the EU institutions where there is no real political accountability anymore.

1123
1:03:49 --> 1:03:54
Right. And you have the same thing on a global level with the UN.

1124
1:03:55 --> 1:04:04
So the UN to me is just a part of what I call the globalitarian misanthropists.

1125
1:04:04 --> 1:04:13
Right. And so if they were to look out for, you know, to better poor people's lives or

1126
1:04:13 --> 1:04:18
whatever they claim they want to do, or, you know, if they claim they're going to take care

1127
1:04:18 --> 1:04:20
of refugees, right?

1128
1:04:20 --> 1:04:26
No, actually, they're perpetuating the situation that we are, you know, especially in Germany,

1129
1:04:27 --> 1:04:30
feeling with this illegal mass invasion.

1130
1:04:30 --> 1:04:31
Right. What is happening?

1131
1:04:32 --> 1:04:36
So you might remember 2015.

1132
1:04:37 --> 1:04:42
And fall, Merkel, she just ripped the German borders wide open.

1133
1:04:42 --> 1:04:46
Right. Everyone, there was no checking anymore.

1134
1:04:46 --> 1:04:51
Anyone that wanted to come in and claim asylum, come on in, come on in, come on in.

1135
1:04:51 --> 1:04:55
Right. So it was like, you know, just come on over.

1136
1:04:56 --> 1:05:03
And when she was criticized for that, she, you know, pretty much like a three or stumped her foot.

1137
1:05:03 --> 1:05:08
And she was like, well, if I can't show a friendly face at the border anymore,

1138
1:05:08 --> 1:05:10
then this is no longer my country.

1139
1:05:11 --> 1:05:17
That's how she countered the criticism for, you know, just letting just about anyone walk in.

1140
1:05:18 --> 1:05:19
Okay. But the point is this.

1141
1:05:19 --> 1:05:21
How did it even get to that point?

1142
1:05:22 --> 1:05:26
And when she's speaking about wanting to make a friendly face,

1143
1:05:27 --> 1:05:31
then we have to ask the question, where was her friendly face

1144
1:05:32 --> 1:05:34
in January of 2015?

1145
1:05:35 --> 1:05:36
What happened?

1146
1:05:37 --> 1:05:38
A lot of people don't know that.

1147
1:05:39 --> 1:05:44
What is happening when you have a war somewhere, a civil war or whatever kind of war it is,

1148
1:05:44 --> 1:05:46
you have war refugees.

1149
1:05:46 --> 1:05:54
Right. And it was always the UN, they put up refugee camps in the, you know, the neighboring states.

1150
1:05:55 --> 1:05:58
And they took care of these war refugees.

1151
1:05:59 --> 1:06:08
And all the nations around the world paid the UN $33 a month per refugee.

1152
1:06:09 --> 1:06:11
So they can feed them, they can put up, right?

1153
1:06:12 --> 1:06:20
So, I mean, the war community came up with that money, $33 per month per refugee.

1154
1:06:20 --> 1:06:27
So that the UN could, you know, do the camps and work with the camps and feed the people.

1155
1:06:28 --> 1:06:38
And in January 2015, what did the world community decide to cut those funds from $33 a month

1156
1:06:38 --> 1:06:42
to $12 a month per refugee?

1157
1:06:43 --> 1:06:51
So these refugees in these UN camps, they were literally starving because they no longer had

1158
1:06:51 --> 1:07:00
food. And that's what prompted them to then flee these refugee camps to seek a better life

1159
1:07:00 --> 1:07:02
somewhere else where they could get food.

1160
1:07:02 --> 1:07:10
And that's what, you know, got the ball rolling with this massive influx of these refugees.

1161
1:07:11 --> 1:07:16
Where was her friendly face when they cut down the amount of $12?

1162
1:07:17 --> 1:07:18
She didn't say anything.

1163
1:07:18 --> 1:07:20
No one said a damn word.

1164
1:07:20 --> 1:07:22
They just did it, right?

1165
1:07:22 --> 1:07:24
And that's how we are being lied to.

1166
1:07:24 --> 1:07:32
And to prove that, I mean, that was a deliberate setting into motion of that refugee crisis.

1167
1:07:32 --> 1:07:34
They deliberately set that into motion.

1168
1:07:34 --> 1:07:35
That's what they did.

1169
1:07:35 --> 1:07:36
I remember that.

1170
1:07:36 --> 1:07:41
I was in Hamburg visiting my German family and they pointed it out to me.

1171
1:07:41 --> 1:07:42
It was unbelievable.

1172
1:07:44 --> 1:07:49
They had this huge influx in 2015 and I saw this floating boat.

1173
1:07:50 --> 1:07:51
Exactly.

1174
1:07:51 --> 1:07:57
And the German people were standing on the train tracks and the stations and they were

1175
1:07:57 --> 1:08:00
throwing teddy bears at them, you know, to welcome them.

1176
1:08:00 --> 1:08:06
And I was just sitting there and I was like, how can you celebrate your own demise?

1177
1:08:06 --> 1:08:08
Because that's what we were doing.

1178
1:08:08 --> 1:08:13
Celebrating, welcoming even our own demise.

1179
1:08:13 --> 1:08:17
But like I said, that's what the UN does, right?

1180
1:08:17 --> 1:08:18
So just cutting the funds.

1181
1:08:19 --> 1:08:22
Like a third of what it used to be pretty much.

1182
1:08:23 --> 1:08:27
And then, well, you know, these poor refugees, now you have to take them in and help them.

1183
1:08:27 --> 1:08:28
Blah, blah, blah, blah.

1184
1:08:28 --> 1:08:31
So you wouldn't miss the UN very much.

1185
1:08:31 --> 1:08:32
I'm sorry?

1186
1:08:32 --> 1:08:33
You wouldn't miss the UN that much.

1187
1:08:35 --> 1:08:36
Not only would I not miss it.

1188
1:08:36 --> 1:08:41
Oh gosh, the world would be a way better place if we didn't have the UN.

1189
1:08:41 --> 1:08:42
Just how the world would be.

1190
1:08:42 --> 1:08:44
I miss your fiery speeches.

1191
1:08:44 --> 1:08:45
I miss your fiery speeches.

1192
1:08:46 --> 1:08:51
Just how the world would be a much healthier place without the WHO.

1193
1:08:52 --> 1:08:54
Christine, I love you.

1194
1:08:55 --> 1:08:55
Yeah.

1195
1:08:57 --> 1:09:00
So Tom Rotman's next, Christine.

1196
1:09:03 --> 1:09:06
Well, hi, thank you for coming on.

1197
1:09:07 --> 1:09:13
So I'm not sure if I got this right, but I think it might have been Daniel Estelan went over.

1198
1:09:14 --> 1:09:17
He went over various spans of history and he covered Germany.

1199
1:09:17 --> 1:09:26
And, you know, I'm not very good at history, but he hit on 1945 through 48 as being a really dark

1200
1:09:26 --> 1:09:30
period where we sort of set the precedent.

1201
1:09:32 --> 1:09:37
Again, I hope I'm remembering it was Daniel doing the fire bombing.

1202
1:09:37 --> 1:09:42
And, you know, what it set the precedent for was taking out civilians.

1203
1:09:42 --> 1:09:45
I know that's a really dark, scary subject.

1204
1:09:47 --> 1:09:49
But I thought I'd mention that.

1205
1:09:49 --> 1:09:55
And then I wanted to mention to you on a lighter topic, the banking situation.

1206
1:09:55 --> 1:10:00
I have this image of Germany having a lot of small banks, which is small independent banks,

1207
1:10:00 --> 1:10:01
which is a good thing.

1208
1:10:02 --> 1:10:05
The banks in the US have been all bought up.

1209
1:10:05 --> 1:10:12
I remember around 2009, a lot of the state banks, we had all these independent

1210
1:10:12 --> 1:10:19
state banks and they've all been bought up and by Harris Bank, which became BMO Harris.

1211
1:10:21 --> 1:10:26
But related to this back in 2012,

1212
1:10:26 --> 1:10:31
Dennis Kucinich and Conyers in the US proposed this need act.

1213
1:10:31 --> 1:10:32
And I put it in the chat.

1214
1:10:32 --> 1:10:34
I hope you can save the chat.

1215
1:10:34 --> 1:10:40
If you don't know about that, it's a way of retiring the US federal debt

1216
1:10:41 --> 1:10:43
and issuing sovereign debt free money.

1217
1:10:44 --> 1:10:46
It's complicated, but really interesting.

1218
1:10:47 --> 1:10:52
And then I mean, you can comment on any of these things.

1219
1:10:52 --> 1:10:57
The other one, big one is how do you think is there any chance of,

1220
1:10:58 --> 1:11:04
is there any movement in Germany to address head on the Nord Stream pipeline?

1221
1:11:04 --> 1:11:10
The fact that it was probably the US that destroyed it.

1222
1:11:11 --> 1:11:17
And I think that's about all I have except that Estelan went over

1223
1:11:19 --> 1:11:22
World War I and World War II in Germany.

1224
1:11:22 --> 1:11:25
And I just think we just don't know.

1225
1:11:25 --> 1:11:31
And it seems like, yeah, that's a big can of worms.

1226
1:11:31 --> 1:11:36
I think the main reason I wanted to ask the question was about the Nord Stream pipeline.

1227
1:11:36 --> 1:11:41
And then to tell you about that need act, it's just spelled like the word need and then act.

1228
1:11:41 --> 1:11:43
You can find it on Wikipedia.

1229
1:11:43 --> 1:11:44
Thank you.

1230
1:11:44 --> 1:11:45
Okay.

1231
1:11:45 --> 1:11:50
About the need act you mentioned, that's actually the first I'm hearing about that.

1232
1:11:52 --> 1:11:55
It's really, it's absolutely crucial.

1233
1:11:55 --> 1:12:01
And then Stephen Sarlinga has written like an 800 page book on it.

1234
1:12:02 --> 1:12:02
Yeah.

1235
1:12:02 --> 1:12:03
Need act, okay.

1236
1:12:04 --> 1:12:05
I'm gonna have to look that up.

1237
1:12:05 --> 1:12:11
I've never heard about that, about these various independent banks that you spoke about in Germany.

1238
1:12:12 --> 1:12:14
It's pretty much the same as it is in the US.

1239
1:12:15 --> 1:12:22
They're merging and so we don't have that many independent banks in Germany.

1240
1:12:22 --> 1:12:27
They either belong to Deutsche Bank, Sparkasse or Commerzbank.

1241
1:12:27 --> 1:12:29
I mean, it's all these big banks.

1242
1:12:31 --> 1:12:34
And then he spoke about or wanted to know about Nord Stream.

1243
1:12:35 --> 1:12:39
That is actually quite interesting what happened there.

1244
1:12:40 --> 1:12:46
So, I mean, critical infrastructure of Germany was sabotaged.

1245
1:12:47 --> 1:12:53
You might even call it an act of war, right?

1246
1:12:53 --> 1:12:57
So they blew up these pipelines and you know what the German government did?

1247
1:12:59 --> 1:13:01
Nothing, nada, zip.

1248
1:13:02 --> 1:13:04
They were kind of like, oh, it's gone now.

1249
1:13:04 --> 1:13:06
You know, why cry over spilled milk?

1250
1:13:07 --> 1:13:09
That's the attitude they took to it.

1251
1:13:09 --> 1:13:14
So they weren't the least bit interested in finding out

1252
1:13:14 --> 1:13:15
who did that.

1253
1:13:16 --> 1:13:21
Of course, we were told it must have been Putin, must have been the Russians, blah, blah, blah.

1254
1:13:21 --> 1:13:28
The thing is this, had there been a shred of evidence that it actually had been the Russians,

1255
1:13:28 --> 1:13:30
we would have never heard the end of that.

1256
1:13:30 --> 1:13:35
We would have been fed that story all day long, 24-7.

1257
1:13:35 --> 1:13:39
We found this evidence, we found that, but they didn't have that evidence.

1258
1:13:40 --> 1:13:42
So they just claimed it was Putin.

1259
1:13:42 --> 1:13:45
They rationalized it must have been Putin, right?

1260
1:13:46 --> 1:13:48
But it doesn't make any sense.

1261
1:13:49 --> 1:13:52
So, but like I said, the German government, they were like, well, it's gone now.

1262
1:13:52 --> 1:13:54
You know, why cry over spilled milk?

1263
1:13:54 --> 1:13:59
And they just, you know, went and moved on to the order of business.

1264
1:13:59 --> 1:14:02
No one cared who had done that.

1265
1:14:02 --> 1:14:05
And the only thing I know, I don't know who it was.

1266
1:14:06 --> 1:14:08
I just know for a fact who it wasn't.

1267
1:14:08 --> 1:14:09
It wasn't Putin.

1268
1:14:10 --> 1:14:11
It wasn't Putin.

1269
1:14:12 --> 1:14:13
It definitely was not him.

1270
1:14:13 --> 1:14:16
Like I said, had there been a shred of evidence that it was him,

1271
1:14:16 --> 1:14:18
we would have never heard the end of that one.

1272
1:14:18 --> 1:14:23
But I mean, yeah, you get your, you know, critical infrastructure sabotaged

1273
1:14:23 --> 1:14:26
and the German government doesn't even care.

1274
1:14:26 --> 1:14:32
And the only explanation that I have why they didn't care to find out who it was

1275
1:14:33 --> 1:14:35
is they don't need to find out anymore.

1276
1:14:35 --> 1:14:35
They already know.

1277
1:14:37 --> 1:14:38
They already know who did it.

1278
1:14:38 --> 1:14:42
But they don't want to say that's why they just went over that.

1279
1:14:42 --> 1:14:44
Well, it's gone now.

1280
1:14:44 --> 1:14:44
Right.

1281
1:14:45 --> 1:14:46
Yeah.

1282
1:14:47 --> 1:14:53
So I think it was Hans Benjamin who suggested or at least agreed with the suggestion

1283
1:14:54 --> 1:15:00
that the whole thing about the disturbances in France, I seem to remember.

1284
1:15:00 --> 1:15:07
And so it was a US war on NATO, which would fit with the strategy of coming out of NATO,

1285
1:15:07 --> 1:15:07
of course, wouldn't it?

1286
1:15:08 --> 1:15:09
Yeah.

1287
1:15:10 --> 1:15:12
Well, no, that doesn't make any sense.

1288
1:15:13 --> 1:15:18
Because at the time when it happened, there was no war, US war on NATO.

1289
1:15:19 --> 1:15:20
Biden was in office.

1290
1:15:21 --> 1:15:21
Right.

1291
1:15:22 --> 1:15:25
He would not have, he would not fight NATO.

1292
1:15:26 --> 1:15:26
You know what I'm saying?

1293
1:15:27 --> 1:15:28
That doesn't make any sense.

1294
1:15:30 --> 1:15:31
So in terms of-

1295
1:15:31 --> 1:15:33
No, no, no, I remember that.

1296
1:15:33 --> 1:15:39
So it was a kind of coercion to increase the membership of NATO.

1297
1:15:40 --> 1:15:42
But I can't quite remember.

1298
1:15:44 --> 1:15:45
But it was double edged.

1299
1:15:45 --> 1:15:47
So actually it was-

1300
1:15:48 --> 1:15:50
I can't quite remember.

1301
1:15:50 --> 1:15:57
Anyway, the point is that Truss, Liz Truss in the UK, she was prime minister for three weeks.

1302
1:15:58 --> 1:15:58
Incredibly.

1303
1:15:58 --> 1:15:59
I know.

1304
1:15:59 --> 1:16:05
She sent a WhatsApp message or she said, we've done it on the day that-

1305
1:16:06 --> 1:16:06
Yeah.

1306
1:16:06 --> 1:16:08
So we, who's we?

1307
1:16:09 --> 1:16:09
Yeah, I know.

1308
1:16:10 --> 1:16:10
I know.

1309
1:16:12 --> 1:16:14
Anyway, they said it was Russia.

1310
1:16:14 --> 1:16:20
And then later they said it was a model crew from Ukraine.

1311
1:16:20 --> 1:16:22
But nobody believed that latter thing.

1312
1:16:23 --> 1:16:23
But yeah.

1313
1:16:25 --> 1:16:27
So what I think, Christine, is that-

1314
1:16:27 --> 1:16:30
The only thing that's for sure, we know who didn't do it.

1315
1:16:30 --> 1:16:32
That's the only thing we do know.

1316
1:16:33 --> 1:16:39
So what I think is clear about that, there was a massive incident at the very least,

1317
1:16:39 --> 1:16:42
but it was possibly a thermonuclear explosion.

1318
1:16:43 --> 1:16:46
And that happened in the center of Europe and everybody kept quiet.

1319
1:16:46 --> 1:16:47
And that's treason.

1320
1:16:47 --> 1:16:50
It was treason what happened in Germany.

1321
1:16:50 --> 1:16:55
It was treason what happened in the UK because again, nobody in the UK wanted to know.

1322
1:16:55 --> 1:16:55
Sweden.

1323
1:16:56 --> 1:16:59
They were the ones who detected the Chernobyl disaster,

1324
1:16:59 --> 1:17:05
maybe because they were downwind, but they've got very good detectors in Sweden.

1325
1:17:05 --> 1:17:08
They would have known that it was a thermonuclear explosion.

1326
1:17:09 --> 1:17:10
They said nothing.

1327
1:17:10 --> 1:17:19
And this was all going on on all these countries' borders, you know, in the middle of the sea.

1328
1:17:20 --> 1:17:23
And everybody kept quiet, including Russia,

1329
1:17:23 --> 1:17:29
who Hans Benjamin said approved in 11 different ways, was the target Kaliningrad,

1330
1:17:29 --> 1:17:30
White Russia, I think.

1331
1:17:31 --> 1:17:37
Anyways, I'm not absolutely sure of all the details, but that's a broad picture.

1332
1:17:37 --> 1:17:40
But there's certainly a lot to investigate.

1333
1:17:40 --> 1:17:42
There were no investigations, but guess what?

1334
1:17:42 --> 1:17:49
In the UK, even though Britain, and it was on, you could Google it at the time,

1335
1:17:49 --> 1:17:55
that Britain only got 2% of its energy supply from Russia.

1336
1:17:56 --> 1:18:05
The Nord Stream pipeline explosion was the driving force for the huge energy prices in the UK.

1337
1:18:06 --> 1:18:09
Yeah, yeah, the same in Germany, right?

1338
1:18:09 --> 1:18:11
And the thing is this, though.

1339
1:18:12 --> 1:18:17
So the German government told the German people,

1340
1:18:17 --> 1:18:21
well, you know, Putin is not delivering gas anymore, which is not true.

1341
1:18:22 --> 1:18:27
The truth is that after Putin had invaded Ukraine,

1342
1:18:27 --> 1:18:33
the German government, they were so principled, right, to punish Putin,

1343
1:18:33 --> 1:18:36
they told him point blank, we won't take your gas anymore.

1344
1:18:37 --> 1:18:39
We're not going to take your gas anymore.

1345
1:18:39 --> 1:18:43
Well, problem was, we were bound by contract.

1346
1:18:43 --> 1:18:50
So while we didn't take the gas from Russia anymore, we still had to pay for it, right?

1347
1:18:50 --> 1:18:55
So we are now paying the gas that we, since we're so principled, refused to take.

1348
1:18:56 --> 1:18:57
What does Putin do?

1349
1:18:57 --> 1:19:01
He probably hasn't recovered from laughing his butt off from that.

1350
1:19:01 --> 1:19:04
He took the gas that we already paid for, but not take.

1351
1:19:04 --> 1:19:07
He took the gas and then sold it to India,

1352
1:19:07 --> 1:19:16
which we then bought the very same gas from India, paid it again, and even put some money on top of it.

1353
1:19:16 --> 1:19:18
So we can buy it from India.

1354
1:19:18 --> 1:19:21
So not only did we pay the gas twice, right?

1355
1:19:21 --> 1:19:25
Not only got Russian, we didn't get the gas only once,

1356
1:19:25 --> 1:19:29
but Putin got paid twice for the very same gas.

1357
1:19:29 --> 1:19:33
And now they're trying to explain to us that this is really hurting Putin.

1358
1:19:33 --> 1:19:34
Yeah, right.

1359
1:19:36 --> 1:19:36
Yeah, right.

1360
1:19:37 --> 1:19:41
So there's absolutely no interest in the truth and then they all wonder what's going wrong?

1361
1:19:42 --> 1:19:44
No, none whatsoever.

1362
1:19:44 --> 1:19:47
Same with Biden in America for four years.

1363
1:19:47 --> 1:19:49
Had to put up with that nonsense.

1364
1:19:49 --> 1:19:51
Anders Brunstad is the next one too.

1365
1:19:51 --> 1:19:55
He's from Norway and he knows about Poland.

1366
1:19:56 --> 1:19:56
No.

1367
1:19:59 --> 1:20:00
Hello, Christine.

1368
1:20:00 --> 1:20:02
Yes, I'm Norwegian.

1369
1:20:02 --> 1:20:04
I lived many years in Poland.

1370
1:20:04 --> 1:20:11
I've also been almost 50 times to Ukraine and I speak German fluently, but that's not the story.

1371
1:20:11 --> 1:20:13
I have a couple of questions.

1372
1:20:13 --> 1:20:19
Number one, I'm aware that most people are not aware that these COVID jabs,

1373
1:20:21 --> 1:20:30
they are of course very bad, but we have now solid evidence that they are much worse.

1374
1:20:31 --> 1:20:36
If you live in a place where you have this 50-minute city with strong 5G

1375
1:20:37 --> 1:20:43
and there is a very strong correlation to excess mortality for those that is,

1376
1:20:43 --> 1:20:47
especially those 65 plus years of age and some comorbidities.

1377
1:20:48 --> 1:20:54
Second, there is now also a new research confirming that it's the same link to

1378
1:20:54 --> 1:20:57
reduction in fertility if you live in those places.

1379
1:20:58 --> 1:21:05
And thirdly, to turbo cancer, linked to all of this is linked to the nanotechnology,

1380
1:21:05 --> 1:21:11
graphene and other stuff in the jabs, which then correlates to radiation and the way

1381
1:21:11 --> 1:21:13
which makes it much worse.

1382
1:21:13 --> 1:21:19
And we are a team of researchers, including Dr. Oskar Stickeberger and some Norwegian,

1383
1:21:19 --> 1:21:20
some American.

1384
1:21:20 --> 1:21:27
And the question is, if there is a way for you as an MEP to get this into the agenda,

1385
1:21:27 --> 1:21:30
to the parliament to get them to look at this.

1386
1:21:30 --> 1:21:32
This is question number one.

1387
1:21:32 --> 1:21:36
Number two is, I'm sure you know about Ryan Othulmish.

1388
1:21:36 --> 1:21:44
He was a friend of mine and he was also doing strong research into 5G and coming that it would

1389
1:21:44 --> 1:21:48
be, it is even much worse than the vaccines and it combined with the vaccine.

1390
1:21:49 --> 1:21:55
And the third question is about Romania, that is it anything somebody can do like you,

1391
1:21:56 --> 1:22:02
the CPAC or somebody so that they can restore democracy, they are now robbed from it.

1392
1:22:03 --> 1:22:04
Yes.

1393
1:22:05 --> 1:22:05
Okay.

1394
1:22:05 --> 1:22:11
So if I understood you correctly about the COVID jabs, so you're saying that the effects,

1395
1:22:12 --> 1:22:19
the side effects of COVID jabs are much worse if you're living close to 5G towers

1396
1:22:19 --> 1:22:21
or where 5G is prevalent?

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You can consider that you have a lot of nanoparticulate in your body if you took

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two or three, especially three or more jabs.

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And these nanoparticulate will be radiated and act as an antenna in the body, in the organs,

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in the ovary, in the brain causing massive damage.

1401
1:22:41 --> 1:22:46
And this damage is then connected to excess mortality, to fertility and cancer.

1402
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Okay.

1403
1:22:48 --> 1:22:56
And I would be very interested in information on that because that I will definitely look into.

1404
1:22:57 --> 1:23:03
And since I'm on the committee of public health now, I might find a way, well, they don't even,

1405
1:23:03 --> 1:23:07
they don't really allow you here in the EU parliament to kind of like, you know,

1406
1:23:08 --> 1:23:14
set a point of point to the agenda, but I might be able to find a way to get that discussed,

1407
1:23:14 --> 1:23:16
but I will definitely look into that.

1408
1:23:16 --> 1:23:22
So if you can give me, get me more information on that, that would be greatly appreciated.

1409
1:23:22 --> 1:23:25
I will put my email address in the chat right now.

1410
1:23:27 --> 1:23:30
So let me just write this down, COVID jabs 5G.

1411
1:23:30 --> 1:23:36
Okay. Then the other thing was about Romania.

1412
1:23:36 --> 1:23:39
Yeah, that's a whole other story.

1413
1:23:39 --> 1:23:45
I mean, what they're doing there is, you know, it's got all the hallmarks of erecting

1414
1:23:46 --> 1:23:50
an authoritarian regime, if not to say a totalitarian regime.

1415
1:23:51 --> 1:23:55
So Ceausescu, he won the first round surprisingly.

1416
1:23:56 --> 1:24:03
And then they just, you know, kind of like they were really annoyed with that and panicking,

1417
1:24:03 --> 1:24:12
actually. And then they decided to cancel, and null that election pretty much.

1418
1:24:14 --> 1:24:22
And it was because someone had petitioned the court to have a recounting of the votes of the

1419
1:24:22 --> 1:24:28
first round. And that kind of like triggered that whole process, right? And they ended up

1420
1:24:28 --> 1:24:35
in nulling it. Then the next thing happened. So they weren't quite sure, do we just, you know,

1421
1:24:35 --> 1:24:40
proceed or whatever. So they called for new elections, scheduled new elections.

1422
1:24:40 --> 1:24:48
And now Ceausescu on his way to file the paperwork to declare his candidacy as president,

1423
1:24:49 --> 1:24:53
he was arrested. Arrested, he was detained for questioning.

1424
1:24:53 --> 1:24:58
So they questioned him like five hours. And this is exactly the type of lawfare

1425
1:24:58 --> 1:25:08
we've also seen that they launched against Trump. And so, yeah, that's really quite interesting what

1426
1:25:08 --> 1:25:18
is happening there. I hope that they will not get away with it. And what I've heard from Romania

1427
1:25:18 --> 1:25:28
this past weekend, there were like massive protests in support of Ceausescu. So we'll just

1428
1:25:28 --> 1:25:35
have to see. I think he was able to file his paperwork after all. So he will be running. And

1429
1:25:36 --> 1:25:46
I mean, the predictions for the second round, he was gonna slam dunk this at 73%, right? So I hope

1430
1:25:46 --> 1:25:54
he'll, I'm pretty sure he's gonna win the election. He might only need one round this time around,

1431
1:25:54 --> 1:26:01
right? So we'll have to see. But I totally agree. That is actually, yeah, once again,

1432
1:26:01 --> 1:26:07
the globalitarian misanthropists fighting back, right? And I always tell the people, I mean,

1433
1:26:07 --> 1:26:15
we are up against a lot. They will not just roll over and play dead. They will not just stand by

1434
1:26:16 --> 1:26:24
and see all of their accomplishments in their mind just go to waste, right? With stupid elections.

1435
1:26:24 --> 1:26:32
They will not allow that. That's it. So they launched any kind of weapon they have at you,

1436
1:26:33 --> 1:26:39
well, actually weaponizing of all kinds of things. Like we need to fight hate speech. We need to fight

1437
1:26:39 --> 1:26:47
disinformation. Now it's malinformation, what they want to fight. And the differences is

1438
1:26:47 --> 1:26:55
misinformation that is, is information, false information, and you spread it unintentionally.

1439
1:26:55 --> 1:27:03
You don't know better, right? This information is the deliberate spreading of objectively false

1440
1:27:03 --> 1:27:12
information. Interesting is with malinformation, malinformation is factually true information,

1441
1:27:13 --> 1:27:21
but it is harmful. And that's why you're not allowed to spread it. So an example for malinformation

1442
1:27:22 --> 1:27:29
would be if I were to say there is only two sexes, men and women. It is a factually true statement,

1443
1:27:29 --> 1:27:36
but it's harmful. Question is, who is it harmful to exactly? Well, it's harmful to their narrative.

1444
1:27:36 --> 1:27:43
That's what they mean with harmful. So they are launching all kinds of that stuff now.

1445
1:27:45 --> 1:27:53
And everything is just serving one purpose to shut you down, to silence you, and to just accept,

1446
1:27:53 --> 1:28:00
whatever good they're bestowing on you. Yeah, that's going on. And like I said,

1447
1:28:00 --> 1:28:08
it's happening in every single Western democracy to a more or lesser degree. This varies. And there is

1448
1:28:09 --> 1:28:16
different agendas there. They seem to be pushing in different countries. So in Germany, they're

1449
1:28:16 --> 1:28:23
pushing this whole mass, illegal mass invasion kind of thing. What they seem to be doing,

1450
1:28:23 --> 1:28:31
especially in Ireland and in the Netherlands, and even in Canada, is the disowning of farmers

1451
1:28:31 --> 1:28:37
seething their lands, culling their cattle, because we need to save the planet, of course,

1452
1:28:37 --> 1:28:42
too. And the cows fart and burp too much, right? They've been doing that for thousands of years.

1453
1:28:42 --> 1:28:49
Now it's killing the planet, right? So it's really they're robbing us of everything,

1454
1:28:50 --> 1:28:59
whether it's our food, whether it's our homes, our homeland, our culture, identity, even our sexual

1455
1:28:59 --> 1:29:08
identity. They're robbing us of all of that. And yeah, their ultimate goal, and I'm convinced of

1456
1:29:08 --> 1:29:18
that at this point, is they want to transform our liberal and free societies into this collective

1457
1:29:18 --> 1:29:26
where we are just part of a mindless, malleable mass that they can shift around any which way

1458
1:29:26 --> 1:29:34
they need us to be shifted around. A bit like China then. So yeah, exactly.

1459
1:29:35 --> 1:29:41
Exactly. Yes, China. This is our future. Yeah. One of the things that mystifies me, Christine,

1460
1:29:41 --> 1:29:48
it's just amazing to me, just like the Ukraine war doesn't make sense. So China, there are lots

1461
1:29:48 --> 1:29:55
of people in the West who are very exercised by defending China. They don't want China. What is

1462
1:29:55 --> 1:30:00
that about? I just don't understand. I don't think all these people are bored. I think it's a bit like

1463
1:30:00 --> 1:30:05
Ukraine war thing. Everybody has an opinion. Oh yeah, but all the people who know about China,

1464
1:30:05 --> 1:30:08
they all defend China. Why is that? What are they afraid of?

1465
1:30:10 --> 1:30:15
Beyond me. It's mind boggling. I do not have an explanation for that. I don't know.

1466
1:30:17 --> 1:30:21
So when you're talking about people defending China, what people are you talking about?

1467
1:30:21 --> 1:30:29
The people? Especially people who know China from having lived there, for example. But of course,

1468
1:30:29 --> 1:30:34
you could argue that they get their incomes from China or have got income from China.

1469
1:30:35 --> 1:30:42
But having said that, I do know that Chris Patton, who was in Hong Kong, the last governor of Hong

1470
1:30:42 --> 1:30:51
Kong, was a governor, a governor, whatever it was anyway. He was the top of Hong Kong before 1997

1471
1:30:51 --> 1:30:58
when they handed it over to China. And he was writing a book about his time in China and

1472
1:30:58 --> 1:31:05
and it was about 10 days or a couple of weeks, maybe. Yeah, something like that. Just before

1473
1:31:05 --> 1:31:11
publication. And the book was pulled by one of the major publishers in the UK whose name is

1474
1:31:11 --> 1:31:20
I can't remember now. But anyway, and the editor who had been assisting Chris Patton on this very

1475
1:31:20 --> 1:31:28
important book resigned because they pulled the book. And but it turned out later that the reason

1476
1:31:28 --> 1:31:34
they pulled it was because it was too critical. Chris Patton's book was too critical of China.

1477
1:31:34 --> 1:31:44
But it was I'm not a big fan of Chris Patton. He later became the the the chancellor, I think,

1478
1:31:44 --> 1:31:52
of Oxford University. But he was tipped to be the next prime minister of the UK. He was

1479
1:31:53 --> 1:32:00
undoubtedly bright. But anyway, after this book, he didn't do anything in the UK.

1480
1:32:00 --> 1:32:06
We'd never hear anything about him now. Very interesting. So China, you're not allowed to

1481
1:32:06 --> 1:32:11
criticize. That was the first time I understood that that was the narrative, you know, amongst these

1482
1:32:12 --> 1:32:19
people. And there are people in the US, as you know, who are China sycophants. And in I mean,

1483
1:32:19 --> 1:32:26
you know, Keir Starmer is a good example. And Lord Mandelson, who's the American ambassador, sorry,

1484
1:32:26 --> 1:32:35
the British ambassador to America, also connected with China, apparently. And did you get an answer

1485
1:32:36 --> 1:32:43
to your questions? Yeah, the second third question was about if she has any chance to do anything

1486
1:32:44 --> 1:32:51
in the case of Reiner Schulmisch, who is still in prison with the I guess. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No,

1487
1:32:51 --> 1:32:56
I can't do anything about that, because I cannot really get involved with, you know, pending

1488
1:32:58 --> 1:33:05
trials or charges like that. The only thing you know, I can't do, of course, if there's protests,

1489
1:33:05 --> 1:33:13
I can join these protests. Right. But other than that, there is nothing really I can do,

1490
1:33:13 --> 1:33:18
because I'm sitting in the European Parliament. I can make a point of order here. But that wouldn't

1491
1:33:18 --> 1:33:25
do any good, other than, you know, getting the news out. But it's not really doing anything for

1492
1:33:25 --> 1:33:34
Reiner Fulmich particular. Right. Interesting that Reiner Fulmich, he was, I first knew of him

1493
1:33:35 --> 1:33:41
before Covid actually. So he won two massive cases, one against Volkswagen, and the other

1494
1:33:41 --> 1:33:47
one was against Deutsche Bank. Yeah. So maybe that's the reason that he's having a special

1495
1:33:47 --> 1:33:56
treatment in Germany. Possibly. Yeah. Revenge. Anyway, F. Nazar. I can't remember what F stands

1496
1:33:56 --> 1:34:07
for, Nazar. Hi, Fred. Yes, you have said, yeah. Thank you so much. Go ahead. So the first question

1497
1:34:08 --> 1:34:15
about Reiner, could you, as a member of the European Parliament, ask for a report,

1498
1:34:16 --> 1:34:21
for example, about the respect of human rights violated, like due process?

1499
1:34:27 --> 1:34:33
Technically, yeah. Theoretically, I can't do that. I will have to speak to my colleagues who are in

1500
1:34:33 --> 1:34:41
the appropriate, in the respective committees that deal with that. So I could ask her if we could

1501
1:34:42 --> 1:34:50
work on that. Yeah, that might be something. Report on the violations of human rights.

1502
1:34:50 --> 1:34:58
Yeah. You could go to your favourite organisation, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on torture.

1503
1:35:00 --> 1:35:08
Yeah. Especially because it's pretty clear that the due process was violated. So

1504
1:35:10 --> 1:35:19
that would be a good point to follow. Yeah. Christine, I just had a thought. You might find

1505
1:35:19 --> 1:35:27
that, Reiner Fulmick, you might, one body, European body, that might be interested in that is the

1506
1:35:29 --> 1:35:34
Council of Europe. And the reason I think that they might be interested in this is because

1507
1:35:35 --> 1:35:45
they were very exercised by the 2009 pandemic fraud, but they also had an almost,

1508
1:35:46 --> 1:35:54
it was not publicised very well, you know, in the mainstream press. Julian Assange came from Australia

1509
1:35:54 --> 1:36:00
to the Council of Europe, and he was fated at the Council of Europe. So I think there are people

1510
1:36:00 --> 1:36:06
there who understand what's going on. So I've seen this, Julian Assange, they understood,

1511
1:36:07 --> 1:36:14
and they also understood what was going on about the swine flu pandemic, and thereby

1512
1:36:14 --> 1:36:22
the COVID, of course, both were frauds. And so, but they don't get much publicity. Maybe that's why

1513
1:36:24 --> 1:36:30
they like the publicity, maybe, but they didn't get much even for Julian Assange. And that was a

1514
1:36:30 --> 1:36:36
big, that's the only time he's appeared in public, to my knowledge. Okay. So,

1515
1:36:37 --> 1:36:38
I got two questions.

1516
1:36:38 --> 1:36:47
They might be interested in Rhino-Fulmic. And the other one is, you know, someone like you writing

1517
1:36:47 --> 1:36:53
to the United Nations, but the other thing is maybe you don't want to draw too much attention.

1518
1:36:54 --> 1:36:58
United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture and ask him to investigate what's happening to

1519
1:36:58 --> 1:37:00
Rhino-Fulmic. Yeah.

1520
1:37:01 --> 1:37:04
But we got two more questions or three.

1521
1:37:04 --> 1:37:14
Okay. The other question is, you know, you are aware that people who have been vaccinated with

1522
1:37:14 --> 1:37:23
all COVID vaccine brands, some are meeting a Bluetooth signal. And this signal was detected

1523
1:37:23 --> 1:37:34
to be recent by Android module to a website which belongs to the US Department of Defense.

1524
1:37:34 --> 1:37:43
Would you be able to get involved in any university or accredited institution to study this?

1525
1:37:46 --> 1:37:51
I wouldn't be able to make them do it. I could, you know, write and can suggest it,

1526
1:37:52 --> 1:37:59
but that seems to be, that should be done by people who are actually, you know, in touch with

1527
1:38:00 --> 1:38:10
the scientific community. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I could write to universities.

1528
1:38:10 --> 1:38:16
Could you do a study here and there? The thing is they wouldn't get funding for it, right? Because

1529
1:38:16 --> 1:38:22
it goes against the narrative once again. So, but yeah, I could reach out to,

1530
1:38:22 --> 1:38:29
I could reach out to a group of people. So say that again, there was basically the COVID Japs

1531
1:38:30 --> 1:38:33
and how they rendered like a Bluetooth signal, right?

1532
1:38:33 --> 1:38:40
Yes. It seems like they're injected like a nano or micro router, which emits this Bluetooth

1533
1:38:40 --> 1:38:47
signal, which is easy to detect. You could download any application on Android and like a BLE,

1534
1:38:47 --> 1:38:54
Bluetooth Low Energy Tracker or sniffer, and you can detect it and you could follow the people

1535
1:38:54 --> 1:39:03
around. It's, there's a documentary about this called Bluetooth. It's called what Bluetooth or

1536
1:39:03 --> 1:39:13
Bluetooth? Bluetooth. It's a playing on the words. You can find it in Bit.chord, Rumble or DCI.

1537
1:39:13 --> 1:39:20
Okay. You can find it in Bit.chord, Rumble or DCI anywhere. It's made in Mexico.

1538
1:39:20 --> 1:39:27
And, but it's translated and they're making the part two, which is very interesting because

1539
1:39:27 --> 1:39:34
they have this mouse lab rat, which doesn't emit anything. Then they inject them

1540
1:39:34 --> 1:39:38
with Pfizer, I think. And then it starts emitting Bluetooth.

1541
1:39:38 --> 1:39:44
And what's even more interesting is that the Android module picks this signal up and resends

1542
1:39:44 --> 1:39:51
the data to this website, which is really amazing. I mean, they're using the data. It's proved that

1543
1:39:51 --> 1:40:00
they're using the data. Okay. And then there's another question. It's about money. We're very

1544
1:40:00 --> 1:40:08
worried about the scheme, about central bank digital currencies. And then there's a question

1545
1:40:08 --> 1:40:20
and we've seen how some legislators in the U S are emitting. They have gathered gold in the vault

1546
1:40:20 --> 1:40:28
and they're meeting these projects where they would have money. It's not money. Actually,

1547
1:40:28 --> 1:40:36
it's a gold certificate, but it works like money. And the Bundestag could do that also.

1548
1:40:36 --> 1:40:47
So, or the European parliament also. So if you're interested, we could get a detailed project to work on.

1549
1:40:48 --> 1:40:57
Yeah. Yeah. Send it to me. Oh, I wanted to put in my email address. Okay. Yeah.

1550
1:40:57 --> 1:41:11
So it's like, it's, um, yeah, I could hear someone typing then. It sounded like Trump with his,

1551
1:41:11 --> 1:41:18
with his pen, you know, you can hear scratching across. I actually wanted to put my email to all

1552
1:41:18 --> 1:41:25
of, all of you guys in the chat, but I directly messaged, messaged Fred now. So let's see.

1553
1:41:27 --> 1:41:34
It's okay. Well, okay. All right. Um, is that okay, Fred? Any, anything we finished?

1554
1:41:34 --> 1:41:41
The last question is, um, I've been studying a free majoring for like, I don't know, over five,

1555
1:41:41 --> 1:41:46
six years. I wrote, wrote three books about them. And it's really interesting how these,

1556
1:41:47 --> 1:41:54
all these secret societies work and are structured. Um, and there was, for example, in,

1557
1:41:54 --> 1:41:59
in the UK, there was this project that it would force all members of secret societies, which have

1558
1:42:00 --> 1:42:07
an oath of obedience, uh, to disclose their membership if they, they belong to,

1559
1:42:08 --> 1:42:15
to any position which could affect, um, the public, uh, for example, um, an elective position in,

1560
1:42:15 --> 1:42:23
in parliament or, or, or in a listed corporation. Of course, this project didn't, wasn't passed,

1561
1:42:23 --> 1:42:29
but, um, it's really, it would be really interesting at least to discuss it as a project

1562
1:42:29 --> 1:42:38
because you can't have a democracy where, uh, in all parties are infiltrated by the same mega party,

1563
1:42:38 --> 1:42:46
you know, it's like, it's a uniparty. Um, so I don't know if you're interested. I also have some

1564
1:42:46 --> 1:42:55
information on that. Okay. Great. Thank you very much. Yeah. I put in my, my email address. So yeah,

1565
1:42:55 --> 1:43:04
just send it to me. I'll take a look. Okay. Yeah. Um, so thank you, Fred. Uh, where are you, Fred?

1566
1:43:04 --> 1:43:11
Which country are you in? Uh, I'm in Argentina, but I'm also Italian. Uh, yes. Okay.

1567
1:43:11 --> 1:43:19
Okay. Yeah. Um, so Jessica Richards is next. Um, Christine. I'm sorry.

1568
1:43:20 --> 1:43:28
Jessica Richards. Where are you, Jessica? I'm in the UK now. I just got back from Ireland. Um,

1569
1:43:28 --> 1:43:34
hi, Christine. Thanks for giving us your time again. It's greatly appreciated. Um, I've just

1570
1:43:34 --> 1:43:42
got a quick question really, um, from your point of view being within the EU, there's lots of stuff

1571
1:43:42 --> 1:43:49
coming up and opinions coming up, um, about the posturing of the European leaders and the

1572
1:43:49 --> 1:43:56
support for, um, Ukraine, et cetera. And of course, um, our prime minister is involved in that.

1573
1:43:57 --> 1:44:04
Do you feel or, or, or do you think from what you've seen there, that this is a real attempt to

1574
1:44:04 --> 1:44:10
create, as they've been wanting to do for a long time, in my understanding, uh, European military

1575
1:44:10 --> 1:44:19
and to involve the UK in that and how viable is that? Yeah. Um, yeah, of course. So there have

1576
1:44:19 --> 1:44:25
been plans for that. There've been talks about that. We need to have, you know, a common, uh,

1577
1:44:25 --> 1:44:33
military, uh, foreign policy, military strategy, but it was up until now, it was just really talk,

1578
1:44:33 --> 1:44:39
really, you know, for lack of money, you know, to realizing that, of course, um, because they're

1579
1:44:39 --> 1:44:44
spending money in all kinds of garbage. Um, yeah, but now it's like they mean business.

1580
1:44:45 --> 1:44:53
And of course, this is just the welcome, uh, pretext under which they now could possibly,

1581
1:44:54 --> 1:45:01
um, be successful in convincing the majority of the peoples in the European member states, um,

1582
1:45:01 --> 1:45:09
to actually, you know, applaud to installing a European army. But this is, this would be, um,

1583
1:45:09 --> 1:45:17
would be a grave mistake, uh, in the sense of that, um, then peoples, they would, would no longer be

1584
1:45:17 --> 1:45:25
able to fight back, uh, in terms of, so let's say, let's say the Romanian people are now, you know,

1585
1:45:25 --> 1:45:30
taking the streets protesting, uh, that they try to keep Ceausescu out of office.

1586
1:45:31 --> 1:45:38
If there was, um, a European army, of course, they would not deploy the Romanians to clean up

1587
1:45:38 --> 1:45:46
the Romanians pro protesting on the streets. They would send, let's say the French or the Italians

1588
1:45:46 --> 1:45:51
and they would have no, no qualms about, you know, shooting down Romanian people.

1589
1:45:51 --> 1:45:58
So this is the real danger, um, that I see, uh, if they do get, uh, whatever they want to call a

1590
1:45:58 --> 1:46:04
European army or whatever, but, um, yes, they will absolutely try to do that. Um, the only

1591
1:46:05 --> 1:46:12
thing that is saving us right now is there is no money to do that, right? Like they spend it on

1592
1:46:12 --> 1:46:20
everyone else. Um, with the U S still on board, um, they would definitely do that. Yes, absolutely.

1593
1:46:20 --> 1:46:27
Right. That's helpful. Thank you. What, what would be the viability as well of involving the UK in

1594
1:46:27 --> 1:46:35
that as we're technically not part of the European union anymore, but in everything?

1595
1:46:35 --> 1:46:42
That, that wouldn't change anything. I mean, see, they're trying to make us believe that the only

1596
1:46:42 --> 1:46:50
way you can have meaningful discussions and can have trade and can have, you know, contracts

1597
1:46:50 --> 1:46:57
is if you are a member in the EU, right? Which is BS. I mean, we kind of, the countries existed

1598
1:46:57 --> 1:47:03
before there was even in the U right. There was trade, we had agreements, we had contracts,

1599
1:47:04 --> 1:47:10
and yeah, it's a little more difficult, but that's, that's the other benefit that the EU actually

1600
1:47:10 --> 1:47:16
brings, uh, especially for like big corporations, globally operating corporations, right?

1601
1:47:16 --> 1:47:23
Now they no longer have to negotiate with 27 different, 27 different countries.

1602
1:47:23 --> 1:47:30
Now all they have to do is, you know, convince Ursula von der Leyen and boom, you have 27

1603
1:47:30 --> 1:47:37
countries, right? So this is just another step to globalizing the world and to bring it all together

1604
1:47:37 --> 1:47:44
under, you know, whatever globalitarian kind of a global order. That's what they're, what they're

1605
1:47:44 --> 1:47:51
doing. Yeah. So I guess I probably already know the answer to this, but I'm going to ask it anyway.

1606
1:47:52 --> 1:48:00
How aware are the other MEPs of the dangers of such a situation taking place?

1607
1:48:01 --> 1:48:11
Yeah, the majority are not aware at all. So I've tried to explain that so many times.

1608
1:48:12 --> 1:48:19
And I think you have like three types of people in the, in the parliaments, not only you parliament

1609
1:48:19 --> 1:48:25
and other parliaments as well. I think this holds pretty much true for every parliament. So you have

1610
1:48:25 --> 1:48:33
a group of people that are fully aware and are actively fighting it, right? But we're in a majority.

1611
1:48:34 --> 1:48:39
Then you have a group of people. They are fully aware of what they're doing.

1612
1:48:42 --> 1:48:48
But they, since they belong, finally belong to the club, they don't want to jeopardize that.

1613
1:48:48 --> 1:48:54
So they go along, even though they know what they're doing is not, is not correct. Right.

1614
1:48:55 --> 1:49:04
And then you have a third group of people. They're just so utterly stupid. They're so

1615
1:49:04 --> 1:49:11
incredibly dumb. They don't get it. They really don't. They really believe all of this BS.

1616
1:49:12 --> 1:49:18
You know, if you censored free speech on social media, you would save democracy.

1617
1:49:19 --> 1:49:26
Yes, absolutely. And a man, like I said, you know, wanting to bring about peace, of course,

1618
1:49:26 --> 1:49:33
is a fascist. Of course he is, you know, that's pretty much, you know, what the three groups are.

1619
1:49:34 --> 1:49:38
So someone early and you'll say from dying from old age diseases.

1620
1:49:39 --> 1:49:40
Yeah. Yeah.

1621
1:49:41 --> 1:49:47
So did you say that the majority of people there actually are aware and?

1622
1:49:47 --> 1:49:53
No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. The minority. Yeah. These people are in the minority. If I said

1623
1:49:53 --> 1:49:57
majority, that's totally wrong. No, no, no, the minority, but this minority is growing.

1624
1:49:58 --> 1:50:05
So it's now more in the EU Parliament. We are now more ever since the last election in June of last

1625
1:50:05 --> 1:50:14
year, but we still don't have a majority. Theoretically, we actually, I would say the

1626
1:50:14 --> 1:50:21
right conservative side, we technically have a majority in house, but the Christian Democrats,

1627
1:50:22 --> 1:50:29
the Europeans, what they call People's Party, the EPP, the former Conservative Party,

1628
1:50:29 --> 1:50:34
they haven't quite made up their mind yet. And since they now won the elections in Germany,

1629
1:50:34 --> 1:50:40
they're probably convinced they're doing the right thing, right? But they still vote with the social

1630
1:50:40 --> 1:50:47
Democrats and with the Greens and the liberals and all of that. Even though the people want them

1631
1:50:47 --> 1:50:55
to change their course, but they won't. They simply won't. Right. So, and you know,

1632
1:50:55 --> 1:51:05
they simply won't. Right. So, and like I said, they won the German elections. So they're,

1633
1:51:05 --> 1:51:10
you know, thinking, hey, we must have done everything correct. They will not change.

1634
1:51:11 --> 1:51:16
So they're not going to change no matter what. Right. And did the people actually vote for that?

1635
1:51:16 --> 1:51:23
Or is it? Did the people actually vote for that? Or is it questionable, as you know,

1636
1:51:23 --> 1:51:32
some elections are? I would say they did come in first. They did win the elections

1637
1:51:32 --> 1:51:36
in coming in first. But even, I mean, we're talking now that they had, well, 28%.

1638
1:51:37 --> 1:51:46
Right. I remember times where they had like 48, 51, 52%. Right. When they were the actual

1639
1:51:46 --> 1:51:51
Conservative Party of my country. Right. But now it's like they are celebrating themselves

1640
1:51:51 --> 1:51:58
if they came in at 28%. So. Yeah, I understand that. Is that some of that a result of fewer

1641
1:51:58 --> 1:52:04
people bothering to vote? Well, no, actually, in the last German election, the participation

1642
1:52:04 --> 1:52:13
was actually quite high. It was like 87%. That is high. And the highest turnout ever.

1643
1:52:13 --> 1:52:20
So people are and I think it happened with COVID. People are more interested in politics now.

1644
1:52:22 --> 1:52:27
Because they realized or a lot of them realized anyway, that, you know, politics is not just,

1645
1:52:27 --> 1:52:33
you know, some, some kind of a theoretical nonsense that only the elites bother with.

1646
1:52:33 --> 1:52:40
It affects your daily life. Yeah, you were locked in your home. You had to put on a mask.

1647
1:52:40 --> 1:52:45
They almost mandated you to take an mRNA injection. They threatened you, you would lose your job if

1648
1:52:45 --> 1:52:54
you didn't comply. So they realized, wait a minute, it is actually affecting me directly.

1649
1:52:54 --> 1:53:01
Right. Yeah. And that's true. Yeah. Nature people normally don't react until it knocks on their

1650
1:53:01 --> 1:53:08
front door. Otherwise, they just ignore things. Yeah. Things have to get worse before they get

1651
1:53:08 --> 1:53:15
better. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to jump in here. I would really like lock off at like, well, it's

1652
1:53:15 --> 1:53:23
almost 11pm here. I kind of have an early morning. So I would take one more question.

1653
1:53:23 --> 1:53:28
Can you take one more question from Gary Hawkins, Christine? Thank you, Jessica.

1654
1:53:30 --> 1:53:36
I understand that in Germany, it is just paper ballots, correct? Yes.

1655
1:53:36 --> 1:53:45
And so... And voter ID and one day voting. Okay. So then there could have been still cheating in the

1656
1:53:45 --> 1:53:52
counting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you have a sense that that may be? Yes. Yes. That did happen here and

1657
1:53:52 --> 1:53:59
there. What we're doing now is we're telling people, look, you have the right to witness when

1658
1:53:59 --> 1:54:06
they're counting the ballots, right, in the various precincts. And I think that's a good

1659
1:54:06 --> 1:54:12
and we've actually, you know, this camp, we've been doing that campaign whenever there is elections.

1660
1:54:12 --> 1:54:17
And a lot of people in Germany, they didn't even know that they were allowed to, you know, be present

1661
1:54:17 --> 1:54:24
when they're counting the ballots. So but there is still fraud going on. You know, here and there,

1662
1:54:24 --> 1:54:35
the people are caught cheating. So but generally speaking, is there is fraud? Yes. But they,

1663
1:54:37 --> 1:54:42
they really can't do it on a massive scale that it would have.

1664
1:54:46 --> 1:54:53
I think you're cutting out there, unfortunately. She's frozen. If you can hear me. I remember...

1665
1:54:53 --> 1:55:00
Gary, you're very faint. Your microphone is very low or whatever. I remember when I first saw you

1666
1:55:01 --> 1:55:08
Wow, there's a... Wait a minute, Gary. She's not with us because she's frozen. OK. She might not be

1667
1:55:08 --> 1:55:18
hearing me. Yeah. See, she's frozen. Well, maybe the Zoom heard her, the artificial intelligence.

1668
1:55:18 --> 1:55:27
So they helped her to leave. They didn't like to talk about possible... Hello, Christine.

1669
1:55:27 --> 1:55:32
Cheating in elections behind the scenes. Well, I'll just make... Your microphone is very low.

1670
1:55:33 --> 1:55:40
Yeah, I don't know why that would be. Well, normally your voice is booming around, but now it's...

1671
1:55:42 --> 1:55:48
What do they call that? I can't remember the thing down the bottom on the left. So Christine,

1672
1:55:48 --> 1:55:58
are you there? We'll let her go, shall we? Yeah. Can I just make a comment then? That's better.

1673
1:55:58 --> 1:56:05
Your microphone is better than now or the sound. So I did increase the input level. I remember when

1674
1:56:05 --> 1:56:10
I saw her first, I thought, wow, that's a human being. And I was worried about her safety.

1675
1:56:12 --> 1:56:18
And I was going to ask her what happens after she stands up and makes one of those

1676
1:56:18 --> 1:56:26
speeches. What about Trudeau, you mean, when she said, you are not welcome? Very good, Christine.

1677
1:56:28 --> 1:56:32
So Gary wants to know whether you're worried about your safety. He's worried about your safety and he

1678
1:56:32 --> 1:56:45
lives in America. Not really. So I don't... When I leave the house, I don't look over... I'm aware of

1679
1:56:45 --> 1:56:53
my surroundings, obviously, but I'm not really concerned that people might jump me or whatever.

1680
1:56:54 --> 1:57:02
That I am concerned about when we have party congresses and there's tens of thousands of

1681
1:57:02 --> 1:57:14
people hating AFD or a protest on T-Fah around, then I'm concerned for my safety. Yes. And

1682
1:57:14 --> 1:57:23
in 2015, they threw a stone at my head. It was this big. Yeah. It was split open my scalp.

1683
1:57:26 --> 1:57:31
Stuff like that happens, but generally, I'm not worried. No.

1684
1:57:33 --> 1:57:39
So you know Naomi Seid, of course? Yes. Well, I don't know her. I know of her.

1685
1:57:39 --> 1:57:46
Oh, well, doesn't she live near you? I guess not. Yeah, but she just popped up like a few months ago

1686
1:57:46 --> 1:57:53
as far as I... Right? So I don't know where she came from. I have no clue. I just know of her.

1687
1:57:53 --> 1:57:58
Remember what I read of her on X? She's been staying away from home, worried about her safety.

1688
1:57:58 --> 1:58:06
But then who's the leader of AFD, an alternative for Deutschland? Yeah, Alice Weidel. And then,

1689
1:58:06 --> 1:58:13
you obviously communicate with her a lot. Yeah. Well, not a lot. She's been campaigning,

1690
1:58:13 --> 1:58:21
been busy. So, yeah. So I was in Germany in 2008 or something, and it was the election season.

1691
1:58:21 --> 1:58:26
And they were on TV. I couldn't understand what they were saying, but I was fascinated watching

1692
1:58:26 --> 1:58:33
because all these candidates were sitting in a long form type program discussing things.

1693
1:58:33 --> 1:58:37
There are differences, very civil in a very civilized way. And I thought,

1694
1:58:37 --> 1:58:44
oh, I wish we did that in the United States. Yeah. Well, it's not that civil anymore.

1695
1:58:46 --> 1:58:53
Whenever AFD is there, of course, they get attacked. So it's not that civil anymore, actually.

1696
1:58:54 --> 1:59:00
So I take it that the media in Germany is as controlled as it is in the United States.

1697
1:59:00 --> 1:59:07
Yes. That accounts for why AFD didn't win, because people are brainwashed, right? Exactly.

1698
1:59:08 --> 1:59:14
Exactly. You don't seem like the typical brainwashed. That's why I keep iterating that point.

1699
1:59:15 --> 1:59:22
We are all in the same boat in the Western democracies. Everything that you don't think

1700
1:59:22 --> 1:59:29
is going right in the United States, we are facing the exact same thing, just as it is in Italy,

1701
1:59:29 --> 1:59:35
in France, everywhere. It's the same thing everywhere. How do you explain yourself? How

1702
1:59:35 --> 1:59:42
is it you're not brainwashed? Have you avoided TV over time? Well, I turned off my TV a long time

1703
1:59:42 --> 1:59:51
ago. That's true. It's like, yeah, I've always been a critical mind. I mean, even as a kid.

1704
1:59:52 --> 2:00:01
Oh, trust me, I was a handful. I mean, my teachers and parents, they were trying to do their best to

1705
2:00:01 --> 2:00:07
discipline me, but I would always come back with another question and question this, challenge that.

1706
2:00:07 --> 2:00:15
So I've always kind of been like that. But of course, I was also caught up in that whole,

1707
2:00:15 --> 2:00:22
I mean, the world to me was pretty much okay. I was busy all day long as they stay at home mom

1708
2:00:22 --> 2:00:30
with my three kids. So and they were a handful too, by the way. So but it was like, once I had that

1709
2:00:30 --> 2:00:38
waking up moment in 2007, it was like, yeah. And like I said, once you start going down the rabbit hole,

1710
2:00:38 --> 2:00:45
there is like you can't stop, right? And once you've seen it, you cannot not see it. So but I've

1711
2:00:45 --> 2:00:53
always been kind of critical. Yeah. Your time here today, I think I speak for everybody here

1712
2:00:53 --> 2:01:02
when to say we love you and wow, do I have respect for your bravery? Well, thank you. Thank you.

1713
2:01:04 --> 2:01:08
Christine, you forgot to mention that you're from East Germany, aren't you originally?

1714
2:01:08 --> 2:01:15
No, no, no, I'm not. My parents are from East Germany. I was born in Western Germany. But

1715
2:01:17 --> 2:01:22
so my parents were born in the 20s. They had me and my brother rather late in life.

1716
2:01:24 --> 2:01:32
So my dad fought in World War Two. I mean, that drafted him when he was 16. So when he came home,

1717
2:01:32 --> 2:01:40
he realized it wasn't communism, right? So he spoke out and, you know, went to these party

1718
2:01:40 --> 2:01:48
meetings on a rather small kind of town level, right? But he would, you know, ask questions,

1719
2:01:48 --> 2:01:56
difficult questions. And then he was arrested in 1950. So he was released as a POW or as being a

1720
2:01:56 --> 2:02:06
POW in the end of 46. And he was arrested then in 50 by the Russians. And he was sentenced to 25

1721
2:02:06 --> 2:02:18
years of hard labor as a political prisoner. They accused him of having for an anti Soviet espionage,

1722
2:02:19 --> 2:02:25
which was totally ridiculous, of course. So yeah, since 25 years of hard labor,

1723
2:02:27 --> 2:02:34
he luckily only had to serve five years. He was released in 55. And he still wouldn't shut up.

1724
2:02:35 --> 2:02:43
So then they wanted to arrest him again in 59. But then he was warned. And he fled the country

1725
2:02:43 --> 2:02:49
before they could arrest him. So then my mom followed him in 61 with my two older sisters.

1726
2:02:50 --> 2:02:56
And yeah, I was born in Western Germany. But I grew up in that household, you know,

1727
2:02:57 --> 2:03:03
having had a dad who was, you know, political prisoner, and 25 years of hard labor, that is

1728
2:03:03 --> 2:03:11
quite a sentence, right. And it was rather ridiculous what he had done, actually. I mean,

1729
2:03:11 --> 2:03:17
what they accused him of pretty much. So yeah, but that's pretty much how I grew up. So maybe

1730
2:03:17 --> 2:03:25
that explains why. So there's your answer, Gary. Yeah. Very good. So Christine, thank you so much

1731
2:03:25 --> 2:03:31
for coming on. And I think it's really important for people to hear you not least because you are

1732
2:03:31 --> 2:03:38
a politician and you give people hope, just like Trump does. And I was going to ask you, but we

1733
2:03:38 --> 2:03:45
haven't got time now. Or maybe we have a minute maybe for you. So did you think, were you a bit

1734
2:03:45 --> 2:03:52
surprised on inauguration day when Trump got into power and listening to his inauguration speech?

1735
2:03:52 --> 2:03:57
It was a bit of a turnaround, wasn't it? And then it was immediately followed by all those executive

1736
2:03:57 --> 2:04:06
orders. And I felt massive, for my part, personal part, I felt massive hope. Just and it was like,

1737
2:04:06 --> 2:04:13
you know, the last four years just evaporated and meant absolutely no, well, apart from it was gas

1738
2:04:13 --> 2:04:23
lighting for me and for others. But I was a bit, I was stunned about the difference of the feeling

1739
2:04:23 --> 2:04:29
was completely different in just a matter of days. And I thought, wow, things can change that,

1740
2:04:29 --> 2:04:35
they can change that quickly. I know. But I mean, that's what Donald Trump had said, you know,

1741
2:04:35 --> 2:04:42
from day one, there is going to be a new sheriff in town. And he certainly lived up to that promise.

1742
2:04:44 --> 2:04:54
When he was actually inaugurated, the very first emotion that I had, I felt utterly relieved that

1743
2:04:54 --> 2:05:03
we actually saw him getting inaugurated. My biggest fear was they were trying to do whatever they could

1744
2:05:03 --> 2:05:13
to prevent him from being inaugurated. Right. So I was relieved, you know, that was like, oh,

1745
2:05:13 --> 2:05:20
please make, let's make it to the 20th of January. Right. And just see it done. So I was was first

1746
2:05:20 --> 2:05:28
and foremost, I was relieved to see it happening. And how quickly it changed. I know I wasn't really

1747
2:05:29 --> 2:05:36
surprised. I just, you know, had a ball seeing it because he was proving everyone a liar left and

1748
2:05:36 --> 2:05:44
right. Right. And it's not a matter of not being able to. It's a matter of they don't want to bring

1749
2:05:44 --> 2:05:50
about that change. That is their problem. They don't want to. But if you want to, you can. And he

1750
2:05:50 --> 2:05:57
proved that. Yeah. Yeah. So I agree with you. So it made the European leaders look immediately,

1751
2:05:57 --> 2:06:04
totally irrelevant. And that was great. And he made them look like idiots. Exactly. And it is

1752
2:06:04 --> 2:06:10
continuing on the same line. I think actually it could have been planned by Trump and Vance that

1753
2:06:10 --> 2:06:18
they knew what Zelensky would do. They maybe had psychology advisors who'd been studying his

1754
2:06:18 --> 2:06:23
speeches. You know, they knew what he would do. They knew he would appeal to the American public

1755
2:06:23 --> 2:06:32
from the Oval Office. Yeah. Over Trump's head. And they were ready for it. And Vance started the

1756
2:06:32 --> 2:06:40
attack and Trump joined in. Yeah, exactly. But I think the big lesson for us, Christine, that we

1757
2:06:40 --> 2:06:44
shouldn't despair. There were many times during the last four years when I was despairing since

1758
2:06:44 --> 2:06:52
2020. And I thought, how on earth is this going to be? But things can change very quickly. Yes, they can.

1759
2:06:53 --> 2:07:01
Never lose hope. Okay. He's a one off. But yeah, even so, it was really interesting to see how

1760
2:07:01 --> 2:07:08
quickly things could change and how the feeling changed. And it wasn't just in America. Right.

1761
2:07:09 --> 2:07:13
So anyway, thank you so much, Christine. It's been a pleasure being with all of you again.

1762
2:07:13 --> 2:07:19
Thank you so much and talk to you soon. Thank you. Thank you. So important. Thank you. Bye.