So I
Instead of the bio because I
So I rather we'd missed the bio and I thought I'll just put the Wikipedia entry
You know where we usually have the bio for you to read out and the BBC entry and the BBC have really gone to town
They clearly don't like what the light newspaper or Darren
You know for all the reasons that we know about but if you read so I put the links there
Charles if you want to read a bit of it, you'll get the picture, you know, they've really had a go
At Darren and you can see through it. We can see through it. Yeah, we actually recorded it
We recorded the interview that they requested
Rather than say no because they were gonna write the piece anyway, and anybody can look it up. It's
Marianna spring Darren Nesbitt and Marianna spring from the BBC and the actual full version on room was some fight three and a half three
hours I had to sit through her
BBC Nus shall we say
Yes, a fascinating insight and then when you see where you the article you're about to read and was drawn from this interview
Which at no point did I say anything hateful violent racist anti-semitic far-right or anything else? Of course, you know
I mean the end of the day if you're against the establishment for against the plans if you're there to expose the agenda by simply
Stand up and tell them the truth. You must be labeled. That's the tactic of yeah, sure
The thing I picked up Darren was that you you know, they don't seem to understand that you don't care how much they criticize
All right, come on let's get this show on the road in a structured way
Hello everybody. Welcome to medical doctors for
COVID ethics international and today's discussion where Darren Nesbitt the founder of the light
newspaper is our
Guest this group was founded by dr. Stephen Frost
Over three years ago with the desire to pursue truth ethics justice freedom and health
Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower and activist his medical specialty is radiology
We remember at this time a great warrior for freedom like the lightest like the light newspaper is and that's Ryan a formic
Who's in jail undergoing a corrupted show trial by the German government and the German court system?
He's had 30 days in
in
30 days of court hearings and the next court hearing is apparently scheduled for the 16th of October
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And over the last 14 years I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice
Bad medical advice is now the number one killer in the USA
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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay. Now many of us proudly say yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers
And we now know from the admissions of many
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And now welcome to our guest presenter Darren Nesbitt and we thank you Darren for giving us your time
Sharing your wisdom and insights and let me share some background
about Darren
from the light from
Wikipedia and so Darren has many in entries in Wikipedia and
He is the this is what Wikipedia says that the light is a self-published monthly British
Hey, you are far right and conspiracy theory newspaper
Founded by Darren Scott Nesbitt
frequently under the pseudonym Darren Smith on 27 September 2020
Which claims this covert 19 pandemic was a hoax
The paper has a sister publication and the Irish lights, which was launched in Ireland by Gemma
O'Dowd and John Waters a free Australian paper the light Australia
Has is also linked to the light and everybody on the internet
I have for you here
My copy of the light Australia. I've got all 14 editions
Physical editions, but they're all available online
The light Darren's paper has been criticized for spreading covert 19 misinformation blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
Don't worry about all that crap
Darren is a true freedom warrior and
We need all of us pushing back against this claimed
Nonsense of misinformation and disinformation which is designed to shut people up
So Darren, thank you for being here. Thank you, Stephen
Can you read a little bit more because you see how desperate they have been to?
I'm not gonna publish their shit
For creating this group and for organizing Darren to be here Darren
We are in your hands and well done for starting the light
Well, thank you very much
I actually didn't realize I didn't realize the form I was supposed to do be doing a formal presentation
Well, as you can probably tell by the by the quick pre chat we just have
Wind me up for 30 seconds and I'll go for a go
Anything you like for a couple of hours. It doesn't matter what the subject is
So Darren
So Darren were you shocked by what happened in March 2020
Not not one little bit. Okay. Oh, well, can you understand why some people were shocked them?
Completely and still and still are and I still pray for more and more people to wake up all the time and see
Whatever strand of the truth whatever one of the other the 12
Aspects of World War three is being being thrust upon us
Whatever wake somebody up and gets them to join the the land of truth
the land of reality in the land of truth is is
okay, baby and
So yeah, no, he didn't shock me because I woke up in 2013. I
see
Darren what you did in the UK was absolutely brilliant. I've seen that so in I'm in Corwin Bay in North Wales
which is a town of about 25,000
seaside resort from long ago and and
I've read you know, in the dark times of 2020 and 2021 I
Was very happy to read the light
It's a brilliant idea that you came up with and you did it so quickly as well
It's like the summons that somebody pointed out no longer
It's like the summons that in in the summer
It's like the summer is that you know, it's like the summer is that you know, it's like the summer is that you know
The summons that somebody pointed out no longer like the summons that in Soviet Russia
It's just what human beings will do when they know they're being fed mushrooms
fed like mushrooms should we say and
You know, there's a new way of doing the news and
People because the thing with the light is it's by the people for the people really as we don't tell people I
Mean obviously there's opinion pieces or you know what having bought for the most part the actual, you know
Actual news and reports and everything else. Look anybody can write right for us. Obviously there's a
There's quite a high journalistic standard
But the point is it's not closed club. It's not you know
What have you in the early day in the early days?
We were criticized for not covering certain topics or you must be control opposition and my answer every time is no problem
Get it on a word document found under 800 words
and
Under 800
Have to be able to take the skill the skill of what we do and I suppose any any kind of flyer
You know any kind of pamphlet area is to be able to distill
You know quite complex and advanced information sometimes and be able to explain it to and the man on the street
You know, sometimes people say we're a little bit we're a little bit
I mean you know you get criticism from either side but the other day
We've been doing something right for four years and as you say much needed especially during the lockdowns because well
The amount of people that told me that they woke up, you know
They found that they found the newspaper on the door, you know on the doormat in the morning
So we'd obviously been during the night to deliver them
And they went that I can't believe this
This is everything I I think everything I believe and it was connecting people and in such a great way
And that was the idea of it was it was completely you know
It was completely to help form these local communities which are now everywhere, which is wonderful
There's nothing organized by it's not official local communities or anything. I don't I don't subscribe to that bottle
I am you know support any kind of association and any kind of you know, getting together and what have you but and yeah
Economics where it's at if we don't have the power to sustain ourselves
Then any kind of political or or legal or any kind of other protesters is just a waste of time
It's why strikes never work. So Darren how many copies did you print in 2020 September 2020 in that first edition?
first edition we printed
20,000 was the first rule
How many print now
We do a hundred and fifty thousand
per month and we peaked at three hundred thousand in December of
22 and
If you remember they were talking about they were floating the idea because they test balloon things all the time through the press
And then see the reaction on social media
And I think it become pretty obvious that the country was not gonna even if the government said yes
You must lock down for Christmas. Nobody was gonna pay any attention to it whatsoever
And they would have looked obviously ridiculously weak in the end. Nobody should be
Underestimating what we did if you were there on the streets of London at any point between May 2020 and
You know the end of 2022 I suppose and you helped stop coping passports or health passports and
Continue lockdowns and the complete rollout of the whole agenda. I mean we know about it, but you know when they're defeated
Temporarily they they just step back. They you know reassess or they have all the plans anyway, so it won't just take the time
it's a generational thing for them and they get us to think so short-term and
Sorry, my mom is a million things
So you said three hundred thousand copies so let's just get some perspective on that three hundred thousand
We'll call it a third of a million. So if ten people read every newspaper
Do you think that's an overestimate or because it was passed around people got the idea?
It was kind of passed around like gold
Illicit contraband. Yes. So what do you say and so?
Because it was illegal it was even better
you know, so you were you were advertising stand in the park and all the other things that were going on in the newspaper and
I just think it made such a difference. It's very hard to measure it and to know what I think without it
We might have been in a different place including as you say we might have been locked down for that second Christmas in 2022
Yeah, I mean that was the that was the spirit of the of the country was the spirit of every country in the west
I mean there was
Sorry, so there's 2021
They're winding up with the alpha variant. Do you remember?
And saying oh, it's very contained Chris Witty. I was thinking what a liar you are Chris Witty the chief medical officer of England
Saying that it was highly transmissible and didn't even mention the virulence. So it doesn't matter how transmissible it is if it's not
Virulent that's if you believe in viruses, which I a lot of us don't
So anyway, so let's say 10 people read each newspaper. I think that's not an overestimate
Do you that's that's three million people at least you're reaching three and a half million maybe
At that time yeah, because obviously, you know everybody wanted to you know resist and and and wait and wake their neighbors or make
people around them obviously and
We're kind of now in peacetime so it's it's it's dropped down
I have no no doubts that when whenever they start the next push on whatever front it will it will obviously start, you know rising again and
And what have you and but the thing with the light paper, I mean it wasn't illegal
That's for sure. And
It was never illegal to go out or what have you there was no, you know
There was no legislation to say yeah at the end of the day the car the carter would turn the power on
Legislation to say yeah at the end of the day the carter will turn the bill of rights. Yeah, so darren why do you think?
This is no bill of rights the law. Yeah, the law says that foundational document goes before everything
Is that whoever's in charge whoever spoke whoever's given like the king or whatever, but whoever's been given the responsibility to run the country
Cannot make it, you know cannot tyrannize you it's there. It's there in the constitution
It's there as a foundational document the law and the coronation oath, which every monarch swears upon becoming king king or queen
And has them swear that they will protect the ancient laws and customs of the land
I mean obviously back in the back in the english civil war days or rather in the glorious revolution days
This was obviously about religion. I mean imagine now yeah being told
Exactly what to think and what to believe and being forced to and if you don't you you you might get
Be certainly get persecuted you might get killed etc. Nothing changes. It's the same fight over and over again
You know those who want to those who want to rule want it all they want power is, you know, absolute power is absolutely
Corrupted and all the rest of it
So they want it all these people are crazy psychopaths and they believe they have a divine right to rule the world
Whether you think they came from ancient aliens or what have you. I don't know
um, I know they're not
Because there are no aliens or demons or anything like that there is god obviously, um, but
It's the old sun zoo that so they make themselves appear far more powerful
And then they actually are and everybody's afraid even at the truth movement because we've all read david ike and the anunnaki and all that
uh, but if you go to zekaria if you go to 16iswrong.com
And you will see an actual cuneiform scholar
Just demolish zekaria sichtians nonsense from the 60s
Which every other thing is based upon just a little bit tip here. We still talk about the light paper
Yeah
So, um, what do you think it was that was different about you darren which caused you to form the newspaper so quickly in the uk?
um
And I think they were like at the very last hour almost before publication
There were other people on board and they jumped off for some
Unbelievable reason I don't know why but and you were left on your own but you still went ahead and published it good for you
Yeah
Yeah, I had I had to I had to it had to be done
even if it was just one issue and it was very hard that last week or two when
Um, yeah, I was just like left on my own to do it
So why did the others jump off then? What was no idea?
No idea still don't know to this day. Oh, maybe they were working for the other side
No, I don't think so
I mean
Possible but but unlikely i'd organize the thing is we'd organize coaches to look to the london protest from manchester
And we organized flyers and leaflets and crowdfunding and all the rest of it
So we're already kind of working together to help inform the public and help get people to you know
All the rest of it
So that's one of the reasons why we were able to launch the paper so quickly because you know
We built a really strong network of people who wanted to help and wanted to you know
Get involved and get distributed and obviously help help fund the paper and all the rest of it
But it wasn't until after the first issue came out
That it really took off. It was like this this is actually real now. This is a thing, right?
Let's get involved and you know, the guy who organized the distribution all over the country is still with us
And from that day in fact, there's been one personnel change since we started which is this is again a testament to how
How well you can actually leave people to just do their do their jobs if it's something that the question of believe
And they get over me
They're brilliant when you leave them on their own. Yes, so
some people
so
distribution guy
He came up with some novel ideas about how to
Uh, there was something about you. Is it free this newspaper because it refers sorry. It's free to the reader
Free to the reader
Obviously activists have to pay for it
You know, obviously activists are happy to pay for it because it's like a
Multi-flier leaflet drop info drop
And every month for very little money. It's like, you know
Between so can I ask you have you got any experience in journalism prior to this or nothing?
No, only writing facebook posts for a lot for a long time
Yeah
and so um, and can you give us some idea how
Things were set up, you know how desperate things were in just before publication of the first copy
Uh, you were left on your own and and so how did you actually?
Do it, you know in terms that we understand and you know the distribution and all the other stuff that goes into
so and also I don't think people realize that
The light newspaper there were no journalists per se were there? Um, and and the journalists if you like all the
Articles which were very on topic the kind of thing that we would talk about in this group. Um,
You they were all written by readers and and who submitted their entries it's just brilliant idea
Sorry, I don't know what happened then the sound went a bit weird
Oh, sorry, I thought somebody else was talking
Oh, it was charles who I think was lit up. Um
Um, so if anybody wants to ask questions I encourage you to ask questions because
Hands up everybody and darren
Can I just suggest there are people here for whom english is their?
The second language not their mother tongue and you can certainly talk and speaking a little bit slower might be
Good for people from germany and ij and arctina and other places
But just slightly slow because I don't want to sort of kill your
Suppress your passion in any way
Yeah, so um
Where did the money come from if you needed? Well, you needed some money I suppose to get them
How much does it cost to print 300 000 newspapers?
Oh, well 300 000. I can't I can't remember now but 20 000 was
I think it was 1200 pounds
I think it was
Something something like that, um, I had like a couple I had a couple of hundred pounds of the bag we'd raised
Half of that on donations and then on the very last day
And a wonderful sponsor from all the way up in scotland
Uh came in to uh buy an advert basically. I mean I was I was offering all all kinds of you know
Adverts in the first one people have obviously kicked at themselves now could have had an advert for like 10 quid or whatever
But just made it
It was just sheer force of will a bit a bit of luck but that first one before
You know, we actually had proper organized distribution
I'd been working for royal mail in 2018 and and when the lockdown one, sorry when the lockdown came in 2020
I was working for royal mail driving around around and which is another reason why you you could go anywhere you wanted there was no police
Blockade or anything. It was it was it was absolutely glorious glorious time to drive
I drove through all the way around central london with no cars in it whatsoever
On there may 29 2020 honestly, what an experience
um
So sorry, i've lost i've lost the trait of thought again. Uh, oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah, the first distribution the first the first issue
and
somebody volunteered we put you know call out on facebook or what have you and
Uh a local guy from press which uh called ross
Had a van and volunteered to have them shipped to his his place in in cheetah mill in manchester
And then drive around was basically doing a relay
And so passing passing papers onto somebody passing papers was somebody else took about four days for the for the for the for the
actual papers to start getting anywhere because people just spent hours and hours chatting to people and
Yeah, it truly was one of the things we wanted to do was obviously get out information to information
but the other thing was to bring people together
and connect local people up because obviously
You'd have to meet up with other activists in the area
So we'd be able to connect people who wanted to work together and you know, that just helps form those friendships
it helps form those those bonds and that and that network and and it's
I think it's probably more vital than than than we realize um, because no matter how prepped you are no matter how
You know, whatever you're getting ready, whatever, you know
We can't survive on our own
Um, we can survive our own anyway, you know, maybe the system stays there and all the rest of it
But we absolutely need to work together
And doing that local obviously across the world on the internet gray
We can always find like minds, but we need to find like minds in local areas. Um, you know, a free truth paper
How many people were involved in choosing the articles which would appear in the newspaper?
well
You good
Yes, so you had the vision and then you do and you still decide all the things that appear
No, we have we have legal now because obviously
Um, you know, we actually have people working for us who do work in the mainstream media as well
And obviously, you know, there's some ex-mainstream media journalists wonderful. Jackie Devois bringing us all the mid dazzle and murders
Yes, all the personal stories the heartbreaks
um
Which you know, it's just not being covered by how can how can you not be covered here on the main hospital is killing
thousands of people
This is stuff you talk about all the time obviously, but in terms of me, it's just crazy how
You know, do you think you could do you think you could um, um
So the u.s is a very important country. Obviously, um, do you think you could set up this in america in all this in
across america
No, but i'd certainly help advise anybody or not anybody but the the right the right awake people with the right with the right attitude and motivation
All the rest of it
And i certainly help advise them for as much as as much as I possibly could
And in terms of the irish light and in terms of the light australia, we're not sister publications necessarily
And we're not connected any other than that
They use the name the light they copy our style the copy our you know, and all the rest and use our articles
Which is you know, obviously it's creative commons across the internet, you know for truthers, uh, you'd hope
We've not been we've not been we've not always been able to contact some of the writers in the past
and
But no no no truth writers ever complained about being featured in the white paper
Which is a good thing because there's nothing to sue either. That's that's the beauty of it. It's not an incorporated
You know, there's no limited company. There's no there's no liabilities either. There's no debt. There's no nothing. You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah, so could they sue you personally say again, could they sue you personally
Uh, yeah, anybody can sue anybody can't they sure but they won't succeed because it's not that
easy to win a libel case
It's really hard very difficult
Wikipedia and bbc haven't been haven't been taken to court yet
Uh, but we still we'll carry on collecting evidence as people basically say no
We're not booking you or you can't use our event hall or whatever it is, you know restraint of trade
And we've actually got proof of restraint of trade. Yeah, so every time that happens, um, you know
It's just been building a case like if it ever comes to that like I say, you know, they own the courts
They own they own all the system. We simply have to
live right ourselves live responsibly
Um, and you know, basically create the world that you want to see that that old
Shade so there may be people on the call who might be interested, uh in the u.s in forming a
You know a us arm. I think it would be very important. But the question is
I you know things aren't quite as I thought they were in america and I wonder whether you know, they might intimidate people
uh by
You know threatening to federally indict them for causing
I don't know
Services or whatever and um, what do you think about that david david collin or or susan downs or anybody else who wants to answer?
I think we're all whacked out
I'm
I think the united states is on the down slope. The only question is will we go back up the upslope?
Yeah
Yeah, um the homeland security came out with a memo about three years ago anybody that makes the government look bad
Is that hard to do is a domestic terrorist?
They also have concentration camps and I saw the federal request
To for federal employees to round people up. This is all for health reasons
And also for health for people to man the camps
Um there any you know, what happens to physicians to speak out? I've had friends arrested at school board meetings
Anybody that makes the government look bad as a domestic terrorist
Wow
So we're quite a lot freer in them
in the uk then
That's amazing isn't it? So one of my friends. Oh, I I don't think so. I don't think so steven uk looks worse to me
I think uk's uk's got a uh, much much more serious freedom of speech problem
Well, at least we can form a newspaper here david and not get arrested because the living proof you're sure you're sure about that
Darren is here darren's still here
I know well you said it's hard to win a libel case, but it's easy to destroy a person without ever winning a case
Yeah, absolutely. I mean but the problem for them is as
Steven pointed out before
Um, I don't care what they say about me the more they protest the more smirks slips smears and slurs
Um, you know all the rest of it. It just it just keeps bringing bringing bringing attention to the light
Who is this guy? Why is he so bad?
You know
So, um
Yes, so I was thinking that um
So I know this country pretty well. I think you don't do darren
There is no chance that they will arrest you because it will come back to haunt them if they do that
And I think things are slight rather different in america because
People are very passive there to my great surprise
So, um, so and they're terrified of the federal government, uh turning against them indicting them, you know
And and it's just vicious in america. That's my impression and people are terrified
And with reason because look what they did to uh, uh juno song
um, well, it wasn't just america it was sweden the uk and australia as well, but um
and and now look what germany's doing to rhino fulmic you couldn't make it up this and
so
I just think so david thinks that we're not free in freer in the uk
But I think we are because I know that the british government will never go after darren of the light news
Yeah, but the you know, they can put child pornography on your computer or on your phone
You know what I mean if they really want to take you down and really see you as a threat
Or they could just come assassinate you in the middle of the night. Yeah, that's what they do everywhere
Yeah, britain is no different to america is no different to australia
And slightly different to russia, but you know, probably a little bit warmer. I don't know
Look
There's a lot of fear. There seems to be a lot of fear about um, let's not do things
Um because the government might come after us, of course the government could have come after you
You're gonna stand up or not. You know what I mean? You gotta stand up. I you know
You asked me earlier whether whether I don't know whether whether people were surprised how was I able to get it together so quickly
And all the rest of it and what you know wasn't worried about
You know being being arrested and all the rest of it. Well back in 2013. I said I first woke up to the whole agenda
And at the end of that year, I wrote a quite now famous song called
We are the 99 percent which goes you can stick your new world order
Up your arse and your poison vaccines and all of the other things
And there'll be blue skies when the chemtrails are all gone the whole the whole agenda right there
and it's been sung all over the world all along on protests and that
Song was written to inspire people when they when they discovered the truth to not be afraid
And not to not speak out to stand up and tell them this isn't happening
You know in in a gentle north northern england kind of way
And and that's the attitude that I have
Being you know, it's a genuine heartfelt song, which is you know, um, probably what what what really makes it but obviously like I say
And nobody should be afraid of the consequences if you're going to have a tax rebellion
They're going to try and come after you make you pay your taxes. So, you know, I mean you you you
uh
Adjust accordingly shall we say in the soviet in soviet Russia or in china shall we say now, you know in communist china
They don't protest they don't petition the government that we want a fairer deal. They just work around it
Same in soviet. It was black market a gray market
Yeah, that's that that's what we have. That's what we you know, there's now there's no black market information
or gray market information and i'm more than happy to um, you know fill that gap if you like, um,
and and provide people with a
I mean really it's a collation, you know
At the end of the day my job's not that hard because I don't have to write all the paper
I think I wrote half maybe half of them three or four of them. I was like i'm gonna fill a paper every month
But you know, that's amazing
Once the first one is out everybody starts writing and i'll reiterate what I said earlier, by the way
It's by the people for the people
So if you want to see something in the light paper, um send it
Email it to us the lightpaper.proto on mail.com. Yeah, there'll be plenty of people who might want to get something
Published with you and some of them are very able. Um
So, um, and uh, david is a professor of chemistry. I won't say where but um,
So, uh, he knows about chemistry and uh, susan
Knows a lot of people around the world and she's a filmmaker and um, there are many others. Um,
But I see this one. So jeremy's got a question together. Sorry. I didn't notice jeremy, but
I thought charles has disappeared. He's probably having a sleep. So
Go ahead
Yeah
My wife, uh doesn't notice me either but uh
Anyway jay
Darren I I wanted to let you know and thank you for the work you're doing where you are
That we have a darren over here in canada
His name is shawn jason
S-h-a-w-n and he began. I don't know if you know him
Uh because he's
Pardon me
We know the truth is
So you're familiar with this publication
Okay, so they just a few stats on that for other for the others there. This is um
Their march 2021 edition. That was their fourth edition. So i'm assuming they began in
december of 2020
um
They produce uh for ten cents a copy it's free
If you've have you communicated with shawn
We've been in touch since since they started
Um, you know, we've we've tried to do more cross collaborations, but it's it's you know, you're
On paper with a very small team, you know, it's it takes a fair bit of time. But yeah, they're absolutely brilliant
Yeah, I just just to round that off before I forget. There's a paper in germany. There's a paper in holland
And they're all you know exactly exactly similar to the to the light paper
Well, i'm glad to hear that because collaboration amongst persons such as yourself
is important and it's going to continue to be important in the
In the coming days
This this happens to be 12 pages, I know, you know that but it's 12 pages in every production and um
They've got some great people writing in it. I'm sure that you have yours and i'm going to check out your
publication and um
Again glad to hear that you collaborated with shawn
it's important that these uh
The that these tabloids get out as much as possible. He's just reached up to two million copies since the beginning
So he's probably got a ways to go to catch up to you, but um, it's significant here
So thanks very much for your presentation
Um my pleasure thank you so much, um, you know, it's
You know, you were talking about america before I think the difference of america is it states is separate states
So you'd have to do one in new york or you want in los angeles or one in detroit or wherever?
You know, I mean you'd have to be kind of separate there separate organizations because local is the key to it. Um, yeah, I think we've
Our distribution managers told me just over eight. So eight million copies
I think we have distributed
uh across the uk we send them out all over all over the world as well, but um
And yeah, it's great. It's great to be a part of what you know, the resistance, you know
We call us conspiracy theorists. We're not conspiracy. We're just with the resistance to your evil plans
You know, I like calling things out, you know, whether whether it's in a song
Uh, whether it's an interview whether it's a newspaper for your front page of a newspaper
The next one i'm working on right now
Uh is the illusion of freedom
Yeah, um, you know, and it will lay out lay out to people obviously, you know
You were talking again you talk about elections and what have you earlier?
It's the illusion of freedoms. It's part of the part of the game to give people the illusion of freedom
It's tyranny is so much more effective when it's disguised as democracy
Yeah, because if you're just totalitarian you just go around with jack boots and start, you know openly
You know coming to kill you drag people off and all the rest. Yeah, people people have nothing to lose
So they'll fight back
But if you believe that they still got some kind of stake and some kind of same we get to choose the color of the rosette
On the on the manager of the of the slave farm every five years then hooray for us
We've got a little confused between pepsi and coke between poison a and poison b, you know go go us
We live in a free country. Don't we give people the illusion of freedom and they will serve that system for so darren
Can I ask you what have you had any opinion pieces on?
On kia starman's first couple of months in power or lack of power
So what does the light newspaper officially think of kia starman?
Well, he's I mean I I knew him as a trilateral commission member
And this is before he even became leader of the labor party. I knew he was you know, obviously a labor party big week
But trilateral commission member so always destined for pm
and and obviously the guy that
Famously refused on because there's lack of evidence whilst head of the cps the crown prosecution service here in london in london in england
And to refuse to prosecute jimmy savill
And britain's best best loved best loved and most prolific
child rapist
And and this is the guy now running our country
So, um, well the first thing we we we did here
Um, I mean so that gets mentioned all the time trilateral commission member starmer or wef
acolyte
Etc, etc
And even emily mateless who's a well-known bbc mi6 agent. She's like, you know, she she she recruited mariana spring, by the way, um
Even even she could ward when she she asked the question
I didn't realize it was her actually before when she asked the star with that question said so, you know davos or westminster
And he went oh
What you can't say that how can be so, you know, she's like wasn't that curtsy walk, uh darren
No, no, i'm pretty sure it was i'm pretty sure I watched it the other day
I'm pretty sure anyway, okay
He's brass to actually come out and say yeah, I don't care about westminster
It's true. They can say what they want. They can do what they want on issue
come from cover of issue 11
Um where we're reporting 1100 deaths and a million vaccine injuries according to the yellow card
Reporting scheme obviously trying to warn people away from the from the bloody, you know from the genetic weapons that were being done out
And there's a picture of you know, you know all the big weeks boris and and ursula vandal aeon and the queen
All cozying up. This is in the middle of mask lockdown
You know fever all the rest of it. They're all they're all cozied up having a nice little party together clearly unconcerned about any
So-called potential infectious to virus. This is the queen and the prime minister. I said they don't care
They're like messed up. You know, so we put that picture on the on the front cover to to to to show people
You know at the end of the day
We all need to we all need to see glitches in the matrix. What won't you?
You know, what what what what's yours? Everybody is different. Everybody's is differently
You know sometimes from government wrongs or or corporate wrongs or you know, sometimes it's just a bolt from the blue
It can be many many different things but no two stories are the same
So the more we can put out there in as many ways as you can so, you know videos podcasts and newspapers
Columns, you know blogs and but go on the streets, you know
People do outreach on the streets in their towns that you know, mainly to show the the pictures photos of the vaccine injured or the vaccine dead
You know, I mean big big memorial or things like that hang out papers and what have you actually speak to people in town?
Because we're trying to reach people on social media. You know, I mean again the truth movement
And falls prey to this all the time
I think you can actually you know wake up the world reach people on social media when it's completely compartmentalized
It doesn't matter. You're a truth or you could be a football fan
You could be a whatever sport physically football team it's going to give you all the football things around just everybody's into football
I'm not into football. Yeah, guess how much football I get on my feed. No, not one
I'm sure people I know like football and what have you but they're not going to post on it
Anyway, that's how social media compartmentalizes
And we're growing but we're not there yet
And you must realize that getting out into the real world
And if you want to you know, actually outreach
And you know take you know in town centers on roundabouts rebels on roundabouts has been going for three or four years
And as well, you know what I mean the yellow boards
And all that stuff people stuff but people are making
Documentations people should people should be using their own talents bring your talents to the table and let them flourish
And you know, there's no there's no rules. There's no restrictions. It's like the west said we're building a whole new society
So we need you know new health services
We need new we need new education services education support because all parents should just be teaching their children as they go along with it
With them in their lives like how it used to be before the rockefeller took over the education system and indoctrinated people to want to be saved
So darren, what does the land newspaper think of the the the trans agenda in schools?
Things are being taught in schools
unknown to the parents
Are you aware of that? And um, I just wonder whether the um light newspaper has any opinion on it or
What's the majority? Yeah among your writers?
Well, yeah, I mean obviously, uh, it's quite clear we're before god and nature
Um, and you can call yourself anything you want, but please don't please don't chop your genitals off
Um, please don't try to have a baby carry a baby if you're a man
And I mean the world obviously has gone now the idea is to destabilize all of society or all echelons of it
So i'm not going to particularly speak out about this agenda or that agenda or what have you because it's all nonsense
All of it all of it is leading people away from who they actually are where they come from
Yeah, the actual natural order of things that work and got us to this point whether you believe we've been here for 6000 years
12 000 years 100 000 years 100 million years
Um, you know, we survived to this point and we know we're not immortal
So, you know what I mean? We must have done something right along the way, which we've obviously lost our way up
um, you know
Nobody should stop researching but
In the context of the trans stuff that's being taught in british schools
Uh, are you aware I don't know whether it's true, but I was told the other day that uh
Keir starmer has a trans child, but so does um evette cooper and so does uh, uh, um
Angela reyna, but if you careful
Uh, i'm told I don't know whether this is true
Have you heard such things?
I don't know, but I know they all belong to an evil satanic type. Well, we can say to what you know an evil
Order a secret order a mad cult
And started by adam vishout and um, and um, mayor rosh child and jacob frank in 1776 or in the 19th century
Anyway, um, and it's still going today. It's infiltrating everything else the church the free masons
You name it. It it runs every order every secret order
We're all part of this religion
Um that nobody knows the ring and they do ceremonies all the time
There's a great big uh obelisk in nearly every town and city certainly in britain
I presume it's very similar across across the united states. Obviously you've got the washington washington monument there 666 feet high
Uh, you know the eye of horus on your dollar bill the new order of the ages all the rest is right there
It's right there, but people just are accepted because of the way that they're indoctrinated from school
Yeah, don't question it i'm going to teach you about all this other stuff
But not how money works or how to how to you know, simply set you know
Save more than you earn to build wealth for the next 10 to 20 years
So you're not struggling for the whole of your life how not to be poor, you know, just basic just basic stuff that takes
you know
Anyway, um
so my answer to uh, you know the transgender agenda in schools and you know the
Be honest with the education is there to dumb down children. We teach our children
In half a day what it seems to take six months for school to do that. They they learn so so quickly
It's not true and just get get out of the way almost, you know, they they say encourage guided learning
And so, you know, whatever they're on whatever they're doing. It's encouraging and teaching around that
You know
So, um, so yeah
So the the answer is don't don't send your kids to caesar if you don't want to come back roman's, you know
Take your kids take children out of school. Don't don't don't let them die. I'm sorry
I see. Um, yeah, we had a we had a
So, uh darren we had a nurse from california
gail mccrae, um who spoke to us, um
A week ago, I think she was just incredible as she was
So somebody asked her
It may have been me. Uh, why she thought she was different and she said that she was
Homeschooled for the entire time
Uh, the time that she should have been at school, you know, she was homeschooled
but also she thought she was different because she'd worked she'd worked internationally and um, you know in different countries, um,
And so that had helped her to identify patterns
I seem to remember saying something like that. So that makes sense to me. But um
Anyway, we've got mark
Who is an activist in east anglia? I think
has become
our very
a home-bred activist
Well, thank you. Thank thank you stephen by the way, I actually am going to be um
uh participating tomorrow
by
meeting with the cqc
On behalf of the patient participation group. That will be an interesting meeting tomorrow
um
Darren don't uh, don't expect any wonderful mark. Don't expect any massive
Don't don't expect any massive brain from the cqc
No, I shall I shall remember
Lovely uh darren to hear such enthusiasm
Now that um kiosk dharma has made a large gaffe
um and um
Called for the return of the sausages
from gaza rather than hostages
And everyone's taking the piss out of him and in fact even people have come up with the phrase
Um that they have got a new minister
uh to make sure that all gaffes are
Suppressed and the name of that new minister is frank furter
um, do you think
Do you think that this prime minister who is now divorced?
Prinness prime minister we've ever had
Um is actually uh going to find himself out pretty soon
Because I mean a gaffe like that nobody is going to be talking about the policies that he was trying to get across
Everyone's going to be taking the piss out of him for the next couple of weeks
Do you really think it was a gaffe?
Are the gaffes on the play of the world stage or is this to distract us from the global pattern for the future that the un?
159 countries have just signed with the un it's a pact. It's not law. It's not binding
You know at the end of the day, it's pretty hard to get stuff that's binding
um, but you know
It was like with the with the with the pandemic treaty, which again has been thwarted
But that's why they've come back with this. Um, yeah, and the british government, you know the conservators at the time all saying
um
You know, well, you know, it's not binding, you know
We'll never we'll you know, we'll never accept we'll never see no national sovereignty and all the rest of it
We can damn well tell if you went to declare a pandemic and they say everybody's got locked down the british government are going to lock everybody down
Whether whether it's you know, whether it's whether they've got um, whether they're forced to or not
So it's good advice from the from the world health organization. It's just uh, it's always a funny
It's always a funny and with the gaffe on starma again. It's just to distract. Yeah, everybody's talking about that
Everybody's talking about that. I got you know, I don't actually pay that much attention
I say
No, no, no
I mean I only yeah, I only know that because it was pointed out to me. We don't we we defunded the bbc ages ago
Right, so we don't have that we're not watching any of that rubbish, but it's a very good point that you put
because of course if the un
If no one is paying any attention which uh, very few journalists seem to be
Then of course the public don't know about the un
uh
You know the un I believe it was uh, process processed my understanding is it was processed
by silence
Right, so no one objected therefore everybody agreed
Yeah, it's a it's a very interesting
Yeah, it's a very interesting case because I remember
Um when I when I was working
The treasury manager received an email saying if I don't hear back from you by you know, Wednesday
I take it you have agreed right?
So he very quickly sent them a very strong email saying there has been no agreement, right? You can't
You can't you know, that's not a contract. All right, you can't say if I don't hear back from you
Otherwise, um, I've bought your car if I don't hear back from you. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was interesting
It was interesting. All right
Darren do you think there is any merit in getting members?
uh
Activate more activists as it were to join their patient participation groups to actually
Ask questions of their practice gp practice on why?
the
gps have not sought to get informed consent and have not actually told the patients of the risks of the
covid vaccines
Any glitch in the matrix any way, you know how to I see I I would know where to start with that
I'm not in the medical profession, obviously
um
But if you are and you know, you know how to because the thing is you you're never going to change the method
We don't we don't speak farmer and the whole system or anything else but it doesn't matter what you're trying to do is sow seeds
Is show glitches in the matrix. So hang on a minute. My my number one favorite with vaccines is this
Please name if you know, if you're not an anti-vaxxer if you're a pro-vaxxer, please name your favorite vaccine ingredient and its known health benefit
It's the only question you actually need to say to anybody who comes vaccines
Oh
So beat the talking points and selling points of the marketing scheme
Yeah, look at go go look any vaccine insert on google. Whatever if you've got one in your cupboard
Well, go look at a vaccine insert go and look at the known ingredients and you know name the health benefits
Brilliant thank you very much darren
pleasure
So darren they've got um a question from um, we've got gaza
Gaza teriyani on the call i'm sure you know him
Yeah, we were at uh, uh, it was that bottom loss anti-fracking camp
And with us and that's the new road up in blackpool for a short while before I got booted off
Um by the communists by the green communists
um
And yeah, and then he did a protest in london and we covered that
Um, and then since then he's been nothing but antagonistic
Childish and completely unhelpful towards us that I thought I just thought preface that now. What's the question?
Oh, he did have it so um
We used to be gaza's favorite group, I don't know whether we still are but we'll just roll with it if we're not
gaza, uh, you had your hand up
Or maybe he doesn't want to speak
I actually I see his video is off as well
We got oh, so is that can you hear me? I've got another
Can you hear me it is yeah, it's gaza. Yes
Oh, well that wasn't a very nice name gaza gaza is not your name
All right. Okay. So are we ready for the question?
Yeah, absolutely. Okay
Uh, I think that was a bit one-sided about i'm an adult
So i'm just been asked the question that you've just mentioned
uh that I was fully supportive of and uh
When you were down at presty new road and you were invited to well
We put an invite out but tina othery didn't do
So what i'm doing now is i'm actually taking on the people
Uh that are now the undercovers
Uh, next week i'll be going down to the fourth the third tranche
Which is the third section of the under covers spires in our lives. I was being I went to the second one
So darren the question is
How many of the undercovers including george brown?
Yellow belly and others, do you know?
Oh, that's all I need to know darren
Well, you know what you mean, which do I now suspect we're undercover or which do I actually communicate with?
No, the ones that right just stick with what what so i've now been talked i've actually got a page called blocked by gaza
And these are people that you're saying that i'm outing or working against
I've actually got a page named after me. I've been a case that the chauley police are protecting these people
I've actually been found guilty in court
Uh, right. So this is at the highest level. This is not like messing about and i'm just asking you
Who were the people that were on your camp that you suspected
Because clearly tina rothery and reclaim the power threw you off the camp at nano camp now
We put that together tina took it over as you know
So I want to just confirm who you think so just confirm. Do you think george brown is undercover and a copper?
Oh, um
I don't I don't particularly I don't I don't trust any person that is not still in touch with us from bottom us
Right, so you are you are yeah, you were you were you were just
I don't trust any of them and you said and you hang on a minute
Can I just say you said your camp I didn't set up the camp. I didn't I didn't start it
I turned up like everybody else
Uh aware how bad
Don't split words it's simply who you were on the count with let's just stick with that who you were on the count with
At bottom moss whoever he was
So george brown did he give you any suspicion that he was undercover?
I didn't suspect suspect anybody. I assumed everybody was all all all the same
They're all singing stick your new world on the grass. I mean my my job was to go on being a musician
And this this particular inquiry is absolutely of no use whatsoever to anybody else listening
Um, if you actually want um, I read joe boyd
Somebody else you fell out with on the camp now, this is what you like. This is what it's been like
I've got to be in my bottle. It's more important than anything else. Yeah, um
joe boyd
Who wrote a book about it the road to kill the bill and he's already he's written a book about it
It's great. You should buy it. Uh, people should buy it and order it. He was there
Stop flustering
Question about people names
Where you got kicked off the camp
And stops all the people doing positive work is an infiltrator as far as it's strange now that you're all flustered darren nesbitt
You're an annoying guy but steven
This is how they work
This is how it works
Okay, so
Yeah, well nobody knows what you're talking about. Anyway, so um
So let's have a look. Who do you think was the stupid? I don't know. I don't know. I didn't care at the time either
Yeah, so anyway, um
Darren you've been good enough to give you your time so we protect our guests. It's not a question of censoring gaza
But clearly he had one thing in mind there and what he was talking about. Nobody knew
I didn't even know what he was talking about
You and he knew
um, but it's not of interest to people around the world and um,
So it's absolutely counterproductive in my opinion. So um, so it wasn't your fault obviously
Point
Uh, because that you know is worth it is worth probably bringing up whether his ultimate goal or point or whatever
Is to kind of call me out as a controlled opposition agent of some kind
um
Uh, you know buy their fruit shall you know them?
Um a good tree can't produce corrupt fruit and if i'm producing good fruit month after month and with everything I do people support
And they must you know, must be on the right track must it must be half decent
And i'm a bit a bit of a thorn in the government side not in a um in a russell brand type of way
You know, I don't have millions of followers. I'm not you know that I mean i'm well known for what i've done
Not for you know being a podcaster or anything else, you know what I mean?
I'm not really interested in that. I do have a a band that I do like to communicate through through the music as well
through the jazz band
um
but you know other than that it is about getting the truth out and
Uh, you know am I controlled opposition not that I know of yeah, not that I know of geezer. Sorry, mate
You know people I've I've met hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people. They know me personally hung out you've hung out with me
You know, and it comes across as somebody who's very over paranoid
you know, um, you know, everybody's everybody's control of position and
We're always in danger and I I I you know, I don't think i'm particularly anybody, you know special or what have you
But we're always in danger of over grand eyes in our own position of things where you know in the truth movement
It's like, you know, I I have to get this out to people. I said we've all got limited reach. We've all got limited, you know, um
You know networks and what have you and your thing is always the most important thing
You know, really what it is whether it's you know, whether it's vaccine or medical whether it's you know, uh cosmology whether it's jesus whether it's
You know
Whatever it is whether it's the january 23rd to the climate change what have you?
You know, I mean there's all these separate things
And you know your your thing is obviously going to be most most most special to you. So
Um, sure. Yeah, so I think the the so
Darren what you're saying now, I think you're absolutely right. So human beings it seems after this last four and a half years
I've realized have a predilection for cults and they're all running their own cults and you know on our side and
The message is join my cult join my cult my cult not that cult
Yeah, yeah
To be fair together he did some brilliant work in london
Um, listen if people just got on with their activism, which is what I try and do
That's why I got annoyed because i'm not interested in
That this personal what have you got suspicions then don't hang around with that person don't work with them
Do I have anything to do with them?
Um, and that's it but get on with your activism
Um, I mean I personally think his his
over-the-top harassment
Um of them was it was it was it matt hankock? I think it was murder and murder
I mean, you know, you could have been it could have been a smarter journalist and said how come such and such as a word
You know out through the pacman probing questions. He's been out there for long enough
And it's it's a little bit embarrassing but that's him. I'm not gonna say you know, everybody's everybody's different people won't like the what?
You know the necessary things I do or the way I go about things or things I cover or things I don't cover
We all have to accept each other as individuals. It's like you've got you've got purity
We've got some kind of purity you you still believe in viruses. That's don't you know? Oh my god. You must be controlled
What no, they just haven't got come across that. Yeah, and that's where they are
Yeah, you know remember when you used to go to the pub and you really really accepted people for whoever they were
You know what I mean? It wasn't like
Okay, i'm gonna have a pint with you. But what's your opinion on on climate change first?
I need to know that we align otherwise I can't drink. Yeah, that is the world and even in truth
You know, you're like somebody you think the controller did a while then don't hang them. Don't don't them or anything else
Um, but you know, we carry on we continue there's a natural war to be fought
And and we really need to get our egos out of the way and our own sure, you know, what have you like I say
I'm well known which is really nice. People know who I am. I can go to most street clubs and oh, you know great
But that's not because i'm some kind of it's because of what i've done. So just get on with get on with doing the thing
So we've got another question of pair hallie. Um
Pair are you in sweden or denmark or?
nor
Yes last norway
And
Actually, I have bought the the light from from darren so so
Thanks for it. Um
I've been looking into that actually when you mention denmark, uh, matz palswick has also made a
newspaper
Called vox tina just a few number i've been giving out but he's into the business definitely
So, um
Is that still going pair is matz palswick's um newspaper still going?
uh, I don't know actually it it went on for a while and
It's been a long stop so but I don't know if it's going to start again
um
Yeah, what I would like to um to point out. Um
you have been talking about the drutras and um, uh,
They have a special
Promotion with offering
delivery to the neighborhood
and and that's a very good thing that uh,
People can do that
I've been thinking a while about this and uh, the whole meaning with with the
newspaper a physical paper is to inform people
And and if you go further what kind of people do we have to inform?
Like it is today, uh, it's very much just giving to everyone or everywhere
Where people are without any special planning?
So we should look into some strategy of some kind to deliver it to people that really matters in society
so
That's my suggestion for you darren, uh that you maybe uh work, uh
to gather local group
To find out which people in their society they want to deliver to for instance
local politicians
to lawyers and doctors and people that really do have an influence, uh
In their society both in local and more general
So so, uh, I think
A physical paper in this way is very very valuable because it can reach out to the people that really can make a difference in society
These people I mentioned they have their networks. They have influence
and and they can
Do so much more for society when they understand for instance the global agenda
and and and uh
I mean in local areas we very much
see uh politicians do quarrel about small things, but when they understand this bigger picture and they have um
a common uh
Counterpart they have to fight against then they join very much more and and so well
So so just some ideas, uh
I think a physical paper has much more potential
Uh than than uh, they are being used today. So, uh, so
We should keep working with
Spreading this physical papers all over the world. I think it's so valuable
and we should also
another thing, uh is uh
It's mostly in the in the english countries english-speaking countries
we now have this have these papers canada and uk and
ireland and australia
There's one in germany one in denmark one in haaland, okay
but uh, the the language challenge is something we should deal with because
uh
This paper should be delivered in in
Many more countries around the world. So so
We should really think about the language barrier how to deal with it. Okay
Yeah, well per I agree with you so oh, but i'm not the guest darren. What do you say? Sorry? No, i'm
You know
You always go for instincts
Your first reaction is always no, I think just drawn attention
I think pey's just drawn attention to a very important thing language
And the most important language in the world understood by very many people around the world more than any other
Language in the world even spanish spanish, I think more people speak spanish
fluently than english, uh, but
English is the international language you can go anywhere in the world and you can speak english just about
And so I think I think you're right pair. So
That's why I was asking about the u.s. But I think uh, darren what we could do is kind of work together with other people obviously
uh
to create a network around the world of
So we've got a you've got a template for the light newspaper in the uk
Now you could argue well, it works in the uk, but would it work in other countries?
You know, well, I think you know, we have to try it. We have to see whether it would work. I don't think
Necessarily that in the you we could kind of distribute, uh
Newspapers even in the u.s from the uk and other countries. Um
Presumably a less risk to people outside the u.s than than inside the u.s
If that's the problem, but I don't know. What do you think the possibility there are lots of possibilities
I think which need to be discussed
and particularly if we could get some
People with a lot of money to part with their money because they don't seem to be very keen on that
They don't seem to understand that they're going to be victims too of the cbdcs and all the rest of it
So it's all the little people that do the activism all the all the all the nobodies
Um, you know and it's great, you know, it's great that you what's happening to skills and all the rest of that
We didn't realize we had and pairs made some absolutely brilliant suggestions
Um, it wasn't me. You mentioned wake up your neighbors
And I wasn't lying about being in touch with the druphers because they've been doing that for a year and a half two years
What have you but they actually get to use candidate post to deliver it
I wouldn't ask our post office. They probably you know, there'd be a backlash and they'd refuse
And or it's like happening jersey, by the way
There was a a paper and on jersey for I think two issues the jimmy's they were bringing a criminal prosecution against you
For some reason because they did that with the 600 postmasters the most trusted people in the uk
Suddenly found they were on the wrong side of the criminal law in the uk and they were found guilty
I think 600 were found guilty wrongly in the uk, which is a terrible indictment of our criminal law system
Um, yeah, absolutely
um, and everybody should be aware that you live in a corrupt tyranny and never to expect justice or
Help from the system or the government in fact quite the opposite once you're after two changes
Once you lose the indoctrination that we've all been instilled with us
Yeah, the idea that we need a big government in the first place
So no, we need government to be in health service and business and you know all the no we don't need government to do the sewers
And on the wall planes and that's it, you know, look strong so people don't invade invade us, but
They're not even doing that bit very well are they?
And you know, look everybody should manage their own affairs. Um, sorry, let me get back to the suggestions
Yeah, so wake up your neighbors druthers
Um, we're doing it for a while. I think it's absolutely brilliant. We also have wake up your neighbors as well
So in other words if you're not able to to to distribute you don't have the time
Or the energy or what have you to be able to distribute papers?
And what we're you know, obviously not every postcode yet
But wherever there's activists that have signed up to to to deliver for you
You can say if there's somebody in your postcode you can contact us or send them
100 to 500 to 500 papers can't work
Obviously depending how many you want and they will they will post them on the streets that you specify
And it's a brilliant it's a brilliant idea we need more activists to want to to want to do it
You actually get paid to do it, you know people people distribute happily distribute for free
But if if obviously if we can distribute in in post codes across the uk way more post codes
And by having yours up there so like we're getting order for your postcode
We'll obviously send some papers to go and deliver and more people are woken up in your area as well
So it helps both both both you and the person that's ordering anyway wake up your neighbors on on the website
The light paper.co.uk. I think it's absolutely excellent
And the wake up professionals idea that's that's really interesting
And I don't think that we need to essentially direct that sort of suggest it, you know, absolutely
I made a point of dropping a copy of the light paper on my local np's
Search obviously that would ever there but put in the in the door at least and so wherever you want to distribute
The light papers is fiber is taken right into the house of commons bar if you would
And that would be wonderful
Leave them on the tube and go to you know professional meetings to you know
Leave them where they're going to have round tables and whatever, you know, obviously think smart about it. I do you know
I don't like essentially directing everything anyway, you know, I prefer coordinating inspiring
Suggesting and then for people to to run with it or don't I keep saying that you know
And again, you know the idea is control the opposition
As soon as people decide that the light paper isn't needed anymore or it's not doing its role properly or what have you
Then the paper will stop the people will stop ordering it will stop writing for it and everything else so far
And you know
98 99 percent of the time we're we're hitting a spot. I love the debate. I love the letters page and people, you know debating
Several topics, you know, I have my own opinions on them, but I want you know
I like the idea of just having open free speech and debate even from we publish letters from people who say, you know
You're all conspiracy theorists and you know, I got infected with kovat and all the rest of it
You know, I mean we we want the debate and without free speech
We're dead without without the truth we're dead and you can't get to the truth without free speech without the idea
Without the the ability to discuss ideas to debate them and to go round and round if you like, but you know
Until we can get to the truth
And then everything else is screwed and it goes back to again what you're saying about the transgender agenda has been
It's a part of the whole thing get rid of the truth
And people will just be lost and they will need guidance and they will need
And where to go and so get rid of the truth
It's very destabilizing to human beings and that in it
That gives you the clue as to what the motive is
Uh of all the ridiculous things that are happening in the uk like we had a prime minister for three weeks, you know
And but how does that make sense?
How could they possibly know something after one or two weeks or even on the 20th day?
of the three week, uh rain of liz truss that she was suddenly discovered that
She wasn't good enough to be prime minister of this country
Until you realize that actually
You the nord stream
Two pipeline was blown up by a thermonuclear explosion
And we and we've got a guy in this group a professor of theoretical physics who knows what he's talking about
He was trained at um in zurich, you know the famous, uh, the the the um three letter
I can't remember is that g h is it something?
Anyway, the famous, uh, it's one of the top 10 schools in the world of physics
And so he's proved in 11 different ways. I think it is now
Uh that the but there was a thermonuclear explosion which took out the nord stream pipeline and
I don't know whether you know this but I think i'm right in saying that the russians hacked
Liz truss's phone during the time that she was prime minister and there was a message there which um
The russians put out they weren't happy about it. It said we've done it and that was on the day that
the morning after the night when the
Nord stream pipeline was blown up
As far as I can understand that was something to do with nato
In all likelihood, it was america who did it. Um, but the point was that uh, it was a nato
whatever, uh exercised everyone knew what was happening, but the
People in germany who paid the taxes for the government
They were not told by their government
That a thermonuclear explosion had happened in the baltic sea and neither were the swedes
And why that's treason as far as I can see so
Um, how did I get onto that? I don't know
Come on boys. I just want to
I just want to go back to just finish finish it off with with pegs language versions and we talk about the united states
And it'd actually be great to get
An american american translation for our for our paper. That would be the most useful
and
If there's seriously if there's anybody out there who um, you know can take pdfs
And translate them well into another language or many other languages
You've got this, you know, I presume software should be able to do it really well by now
But if you can check and all the rest of it, we don't we don't want to be putting out counter information
Actually, what?
And yeah again look get in touch if you think it's a great idea
You want your spanish spanish speakers to be able to read the light in their own language laluz is it?
And then you know again just get in touch get in touch with us. Um, you know, this paper has gone from a 12 page
um, you know
Obvious amateur thing to this very very professional looking well written 24 28 page 28 page
Um newspaper and because people have come along and gone hey, can I do your redesign? Hey, can I come around?
Hey, can we sort of hey?
Yes, come on come on boy come and help
So darren i've just thought of something daniel can you write this down and remind me so
Daniel ester lin has 10 million followers in the spanish-speaking world
in south america
He advises he's an expert on geopolitics and finance and advises governments in south america
um
um and he uh, so I think much of his audience is roman catholic, uh, but anyway south america
spanish speaking
I think you need to be put in touch because he may well be interested in doing so he's living in mexico now
He was living in canada
so there's a good story there because um, I think i'm right in saying that
When he happened to hear on the radio in canada
When they were leaving that evening for a holiday in
Colorado, I think it was they were going on a skiing holiday. I think i'm not quite sure of this
But anyway, he'll forgive me if I get it wrong
uh, and um
and he heard on the radio it was march 2020 and he heard on the radio that um,
Uh that uh, there was a possibility that they were going to close schools they were talking about closing schools in canada
And that's all he needed. Uh, and he cancelled the holiday
the skiing holiday
Because he realized he had to get himself and his family out of canada
immediately
And I think i'm right in saying by the end of the next day with I think three children from memory
uh, he had
Relocated himself and his family in mexico
Wow
Yeah, so he's yeah. Yeah, that's fair hook us up
Yeah, so, uh, if you could remind me about that now i'll um, i'll just write it down janie unless you're in but
um
Is there anything? Uh else that you think that you think as the editor of this newspaper?
Yeah, uh, we should cover now
Now
Well, you know subjects like the ukraine war, um, uh list trust, you know was she brought into
the prime minister of the uk
specifically specifically
Sorry
I was just gonna say I think I think least trust was the conservative party ordinary member's choice
Um
And what least trust did wrong is not realize, you know her actual position and how the world actually works
Yeah shows it shows politicians naivety as well. She should have done a apr campaign way before she started going
Okay, we're gonna go get all libertarians screwing. Yeah screwing the finances over. You know what I mean?
You're like bing see you later
um
You know and obviously smeared smeared like like crazy ever since I mean what's you look?
If you're going to help in in in
In blowing up people's pipelines, then you're not a good person
And you know people go or look anybody that anybody that ever you know runs a government or runs a big government and doesn't
Probably you have the amyl. It's probably the first politician i've ever seen who's gone. Yeah, I want to cut down government
Got swept into a landslide and it depends on who you're here
But argentina certainly hasn't collapsed since it's probably on the way up, you know, who's going to be paid
What we're built on a debt economy and anybody that wants to try and sort things out is just
You know, you've got a very very big task
I will happily help and support anybody that goes in the right direction from anywhere. You know, I mean if
kissed armatists
And it goes. Oh my god. I'll be on to this
I never gonna happen obviously because these people are very well rewarded
And the most important thing is is the indoctrination of the mind you walk around everybody walks around with models of everything in their heads
Models of the universe models of how life works models how you get sick models of how education how the government work how stay
Models of life. Yeah, this is what you've got to do
You've got a real universe and you do all the rest of it and they've all been put there every single one
Our human mind is incredibly
malleable and plastic they have infinite imaginations god's gift to us as well as free will
Um is is an infinite imagination. We all obviously thank god aren't infinitely powerful
Otherwise, we didn't like each other. We cried ourselves out a long time ago
And we're limited in power, but we're not limited in imagination. Um, and we're certainly not limited in ingenuity either
so
Everybody should use their gifts. We should use their like their natural gifts. I just want to play out one thing as well. Um,
Um, uh,
Again, there are no countries mr. Beale if you ever seen a video, sorry film brilliant film from 1976 called network
and
You don't look actually that dissimilar
Um, i've forgotten his name now. They actually plays it. But anyway, uh, famously
Is the newscaster who says, you know, i'm as mad as hell i'm not going to take it anymore
That's that's the that's the line everybody remembers about that. But then bt draws him into the boardroom
there's a scene
Where he basically lays out how the world actually works. There are no countries. There's no east to west
There's no you know, it's just one great big conglomeration of businesses ebb and flow the power of money flowing
There's no there's no, you know, russia v america
The cold war was phony every war's phone every war in the last 200 years is phony
Yeah, i'm not saying people haven't died and there haven't been real wars. But at what?
Again anybody else i'm gonna at what point do I hate german people or argentinian people or now russian people or ukrainian?
Oh, no, we're on ukraine side. Sorry. We hate russia. Don't we? I'm sure that'll change next week
You know if you've read 1984 it really does and you're you know, obviously not a conditioned mind if you read 1984
It absolutely prepares you for every single thing that they've been doing
I was just you know
You get that moment where when you when you wake up and realize that the full spectrum of things like it's exactly like 1984
Across with brave new world across with various other things as well
and
But everybody should be aware of how much they have been conditioned
You've got to do if you really want to get to the truth do a complete reductio on every single thing
You know that you haven't got through your own
Through your own, you know senses and experience. Yes, your senses can fool you but not every single day
Yeah, that's me. What you know, give me an absolute truth, you know to to take i can't know anything about part of my conscious
Yes, that's one but the other one is the sky's blue when they're not chemjail
The sky's blue. Oh, well, some people see see might see yeah
Okay on the outliers most people will see the sky as that shade. Yeah most of the time
It's a it's a it's a you know, we doubt our own senses. That's what they get us to do
So get rid of absolutely everything you've ever been taught
And start again
It's a lot of fun to do
and
The journey is incredible. It's an amazing day
And you know still learning still falling through the doors, we don't know where or when we are
We really don't we can you know, we you don't know what we might do about
But obviously complete paranoia about everything and everyone isn't going to be helpful
So find the rocks find darren. I want to ask you you mentioned 1984. So do you think that
Because I don't know whether you know that but george orwell he went to eden on the one hand
But he wrote a book called down and out in paris and london. He spent a year on the streets of paris
and london as far as I can understand and
So but the point is so it's possible that he wrote 1984 with a good heart, you know trying to warn the people
But some people suggest that he actually wrote it as a playbook. Which do you think it was?
Or or george orwell didn't actually exist and it was supposed to be eric blair or how did this guy
You know even exist was it was it a team of writers, you know at mi6 mi5?
You know it
I mean, you know look you don't get you don't get to publish a book and make it worldwide unless you're in the club
And you don't get to be you know, make a film or or anything else. You don't get to be you know
On tv all the time or have millions and millions of followers unless you are a limited hangout or controlled opposition in some way
Sometimes people don't know the controlled opposition
So was it was it predictive programming do you think or or do you think it was
Yeah, I think so. They made film, you know, they make a film about it as well for me
It was a serious warning and because i read it in 1984 for the love
um, you know and several times since
And and it was like wow, that's that's that wow that'd be terrible
What a terrible world that would be to live in where everything's censored and you can't think certain things and all the rest of it
Well darren love was banned very importantly love was banned
Do you remember so julia and um winston were the two last they were the two last human beings who were still capable of love?
And eventually julia betrayed winston
Yeah, and eventually
Winston betrayed himself to big brother
It's an interesting that you know what it's an interesting. Um, it's an interesting
Juxtaposition
opposite of what jesus did because julia and both julia and
winston
Uh, you know betrayed each other they went no go stop doing it to me do it to her do it to her
It was obviously jesus was there was the guy that went. Yeah, I will take on uh, all the all the pain and all the all the
Um all the suffering
Uh for other beings that's love that's proper agape
uh love
Unconditional they have that you know that a parent has for their child
Um, if we can all practice a little bit more of that not be so um quick to you know anger
And I mean, you know, we're all we're all going to do we we all need to be better people
Um as well as as well as reorganize our thoughts and what we know and what we know and trust and believe about the world
And we can all work on on being better people
I walk along the streets. My I say hello to
everybody
I think i was because it's all right, but everybody's i'd say 90 percent of people are really happy to go. Oh, hi
These are people you don't know yes. No. Yeah, yeah
Walk along the street in town in the inner city. What happened? Yeah
When you say town you talk about london darren could be london could be could be stoke could be manchester could be you know
wherever I am and wherever i've been invited to
And if i'm walking along the streets of holland
Uh out i'll be smiling and letting on to people to know that yeah
They're alive and somebody else cares and somebody else is smiling at them and it's okay to be it's okay to be chilled
It's okay to be cool
Which is your favorite city in the uk?
Oh, I don't have one that's why I live out in the country now
You're out of the country now
Yeah, yeah. I got us god definitely blessed us it you know, but again from coming back to manchester in 2018 with nothing
And you know, uh, so it's rented. I'm not I don't own a house or anything
But um, it's a place where we can have chickens
Um, and the and the boys can run around and what have you and it's not on a busy street and you know
It's everything you dream of. Um, and i'm really blessed. I'm really happy. I've been working hard
Where is that?
In staffordshire, oh I see staffordshire. Yeah. Oh, so you're not out of the country then
I'm not
You're not out of the country. I'm not out of the country. I said i'm out in the country
Ah, okay got it. Yeah, I don't realize I don't realize the cities again
You know you can't get completely away from wi-fi radiation emfs and all the rest of which is a very big health concern and
Definitely you asked about topics. I don't know if you cover it but
And you know, it's it's it's it's seriously it's what it's what makes a lot of people ill
I mean, I think I think coby 19 a lot of it was radiation sickness some of it was flu
And obviously some of it was murdering murdering people in in hospitals and care homes
um
And a lot of it was radiation sickness
Um, you know and it could be that that's what the flu actually is. I mean, you know
Detox, yes, of course look any any if you have symptoms
Symptoms, yeah the symptoms of your body's obviously your body's explanation expilation of toxins
Uh build up with toxins. That's what being ill is. Um, the best doctors advice I've ever come across is if you're ill
Take yourself to bed
and rest
That's it don't do anything else just get out of your way the human body is an amazing
Amazing machine if you like, um, it's it's a you know, it's an amazing piece of technology
You know, no no man could ever recreate he worked to recreate. He haven't even created a meber or nothing yet, but
um
Itself heals and that's the that's the big, you know lie of of the medical industry of the big pharma
And every time they give you a pill to cut to stop your body's own
You know defense mechanism against toxins which the symptoms it stops the symptoms so it stops your body's recovery
And also gives you untold other problems as well. Like you say the number one killer for me
I think is iatrogenesis
um, you know
People never go to the doctors never go to the hospital in the first place
And they would be well i'm live today and we obviously know that with people who've taken the injectables
Yeah
That that were marketed around the world aggressively for two and a half three years and still are today
You know, I don't I honestly don't think they'll get away with the pandemic again
um, I I you know
They'll set up for it if they can get other things other things in place like, you know programmable cvdc wallets
and you know, um, obviously, uh
Digital ID but digital ID is not going to be a card or on a so even an app on your phone
It's just going to be it's all the camera network and it's just your face and your gate and all the rest of it
You'll you'll be automatically IDed. And if you've been to a supermarket certain supermarkets recently that there's there's barriers
And and red and green lights there. They're not being used now
but of course in the future if you're a decedent of some kind and you
Refuse to accept the transgender agenda or the fact there's a climate crisis and the earth is melting or boiling or freezing or whatever
You're supposed to be doing and if you don't accept whatever the government tell you to believe on the corporations
And then you ain't eating so everybody should work on not having to use the supermarket
Why would they want red and green lights in supermarkets? What's that about?
Oh, it's no that's just to stop you coming in
Yeah, if you don't have the right social credit score if you haven't had your vaccines up today
I'm talking about at some point in the near future. Yeah, um, the the red light will will stay on you
You won't be allowed access into the supermarket. So
But didn't they have red lights in tescos in 2021? Yep
Yeah, and they've also got them in fact, they're putting them in I know, you know
I know they're aldean little I shop at the bottom end of the market, but you know, they're in aldean little
Barriers and they're there, you know, they would they were put in initially for the vaccine passports
Yeah, obviously the vaccine passports going to be pushed and pushed
I I thank god for the nhs 100k for the doctors and nurses in the nhs who put a stop
Put a definitive stop to mandate for vaccines
They went for the care home workers first because they know the care home workers are not as you know, um, stable
They're not as bright. They're not as you know
You know ready and willing to fight for fight for you know, what have you?
They want to keep the jobs
You know and a lot of people got injected a lot of people, you know have suffered have suffered since the doctors and nurses
You stopped it. They had the big protests in london put all the um, you know the medical uniforms down
I hope hope that you know some here were part of that as well
And they really stopped the vaccine mandate because that was going to go all the way through society
And it already was for jobs and what have you people forget how what tyranny we've been under and we need to keep
We need to keep reminding people and that's why again a physical paper is so important physical record
Of what what you know, obviously at any point in the future if I do get taken out or imprisoned or what have you
Somebody can at least go and go and reprint all of those issues
And they'll still be relevant today because they're still containing all the all the safe information that people need to know and haven't
And when you've got 300 000 being printed every month, of course, some copies are going to survive
so not all of them will be taken out, so
it's not as difficult it's much more difficult to get rid of
Newspapers in print and say online newspapers, you know, so um
um
So some copies would always survive so you can always once you've got if you've only got one copy left and then you can print
And copy them um
Copy it so, uh, I can understand the power of it. So it's a great I agree with you
and actually we do need a kind of um,
A diary of what happened because it's very easy to forget how bad things were in 2020 and 2021
And even in 2022
um, but even now actually but for different reasons, um,
so I
One one of the big things that is overlooked by a lot of people, you know, they say that it's uh radiation
I you know, it's possible. It's radiation. It's possible. It's a lot of things
but I think the one thing that gets overlooked all the time is the deliberate generation of fear by um,
propaganda, uh psychological torture and um
And I think huge sections of the british population and probably around the world too
Are traumatized into a state of stockham syndrome and uh, they haven't come out of it. Yeah
Well, that starts in school to be honest, um, you know
And it's it's how we are raised and how we raise the next generations
Um, you know if you're aware you should be doing everything
Um, not should be you know again not purity test
But you want to do everything possible to and make the world a better place and going forwards. Um, you know
Just try and make the world a better place than the one we inherited because there will be more generations and more generations to come
um
You made you made a great point. Oh, yeah about a record. Sorry. I was I was gonna say
I realized
Um reasonably quickly maybe after a year or so that we weren't just you know, just a newspaper. Hey, here's the news
We're actually forming a record of what's been going on and what's absolutely very important
Winston smith's job's an absolute dovel with the internet. Did he in fact he doesn't need to be a person
It's just an algorithm as soon as you mention certain words or what have you your shadow bound
and
And you know and everything else so
And I realized it was keeping a record which again make kind of made the job easier because it's like what news do we want?
People to have you know from this month. This is what happened. What do we want to collect?
Can't get everything in obviously we'd like to which we try and get
You know a broad spectrum of what's going on knowing that there's going to be another one every month
So all our pdf. Oh, sorry all our back issues are available on free pdf from our website the white paper.co.uk
and and you can sort of
Some of the back issues in actual physical form
And but obviously the number one thing to do going forward if you've just heard about the light paper
Or if it's like you knew about it
But um never thought about getting involved is order 25 copies or 50 copies or 100 copies get them delivered to you
We send them to you to your door and you go and distribute them wherever you want. Oh brilliant. Yeah
So yeah, and you can do that online. Can you?
Not that we want to be online these days
Yeah, but we live in the world where it is, you know
So while whilst whilst you can go online and you can still you use these tools use them
Yeah, we know that we know that the internet and the digital world is their thing
It's there for surveillance and control but it's here and we use it. So, you know, you know, I know I was I was I was saying
Earlier, you can't reach that many people social media
But certainly for connecting with each other and exchanging ideas and information and inspiring each other and oh, they're doing that over there
That's like that's a great idea. That's how this movement's been done so well so far darren
You'll be very flattered and very interested to hear maybe that last night. Um, I
I was doing the uh invitations preparing the invitations, you know
And so I noticed the wikipedia entry and you got six there were 60 references on it. It's a long
Long piece on wikipedia
And uh, and then I saw the outrageous article from the bbc
So I thought I was going to put it there so that charles could um
Charles could read it, you know, I was going to make him read it the whole both but he wouldn't do it tonight
but anyway, the point of this so when I came to so I got it all there, you know copied and pasted and um,
And whatever and it was all I was checking all the dates, you know
And because it's not very good idea if you're gonna get
Guests to come here, you know to get the dates wrong or the time wrong in all these different times. I have to check
We are having you know displaying ocd
But but anyway, I got it already and then they put send I thought right great i'm gonna bed now and guess what?
BT come up with a message cannot send this for content con. Oh, first of all, they said
Cannot send because it's too long
Also words to that effect, you know
Uh, so it could be malware or fishware or whatever and I just thought oh Jesus here we go again the bt my bt
um email, you know
Censoring and then the next thing was I so I thought i'll just take one out and then it won't be too long
You know, so I thought if that was the real reason so guess what then next one
Next message when I get rid of one of them. I got rid of the bbc one
I still had the wikipedia one with the 60 references and um, and then it said um cannot send this for content reasons
Nice so they wouldn't even they wouldn't even they didn't so bt the woke bgt bt
You know, they're part of the problem and the tesco and all the rest of them
Um, they kind of uh, they wouldn't didn't want to put even the trashing of you
In the email well, maybe they're actually working on our side then
So there I am being I haven't been censored much
I'm all the solutions and it's not very often that's happened
But one time I did notice my email was stopped for content reasons was when I had um
Bill gates's name in the subject. So I thought um
You need to take your email provider his name. So I took bill gates's name out
I tried several times to send it with bill gates's name because I want that was the point, you know to get
And I can't remember what it was about. But anyway, his name was a you know, so clearly there's an algorithm to hunt out
Uh bill gates's name in subjects and if he's in the subject
Gets taken out. How do I know that because when I took bill gates's name out of the subject no other changes whatsoever went
Yeah
Yeah, incredible. Um, yeah, like I say i'm all for solutions
So if honestly if you've actually blocked bonfire send an email for content change your email provider, I know everybody's got an email
It's harder to change than your mobile number
um
But proton mail, you know, it's supposed to be all encrypted and what have you. I don't believe you know telegram and all the rest of it
Look if it's online, it's available and it's you know, it's attached to some kind of intelligent network
There's no free there's no privacy online should we say but i've never ever been censored once
Um from proto, you know from proto mail all the people censored the light paper's emails
It goes straight to spam for the people who just you know, just been chatting to people
Never mind just go straight to the spam because it's the light paper, you know what I mean? Um,
I don't know. Yeah another
Another reminder to be real and send letters. Yeah, so darren, do you know david webb? Um david rogers webb?
He did he wrote the break taking
Yes, so yesterday I got an email out of the blue. No, no, it was it's on. Um, whatsapp. That's right
He sent me a whatsapp message. So I looked at it. So why is david webb sending me this?
He said i've just found this
so I looked at and somehow or other david webb was sending me a recording of my
uh
Kind of messages, you know on my phone when I missed the call
And one of them, uh, so he said I thought why is david then I remembered
Just it was like deep in my memory, you know, but I had sent it to david webb amongst other people
This recording of my messages on my phone and one of them was from bt on a previous occasion
When they blocked my content, you know, in other words censored me
um, and um
And there was a she was leaving a message and she said
We we think that the reason that you've been
Um, you can't send the email is because
You're talking about covid
And I could hear david laughing in the background. I think it was david there was a
I couldn't make sense of it. I've got to ask david about that. But but the point was we've got it on
The recording which I obviously thought was interesting
She was actually saying
We think it won't go because of bt thought it wouldn't go because there was something
Not right about what I was saying about covid
Crazy crazy. Yeah. Anyway, tom rodman, uh, has got his hand up. It's your go ahead tom
Yeah, thanks for the presentation and for the paper. Um, I'm
What about the logistics? Like how do you get the paper?
distributed we we have the
paper in in milwaukee
that is actually just
Carted around and you know, they they they print it out. It's uh
called welfare warriors and um
Anyhow, um, it's an old-fashioned distribution network of volunteers. So, you know, so that's one question and then also
You arrived at the pdf format and um, you know, it's a pretty looking paper who who kind of
Came up with a design because it does look like a real paper
And I appreciate that
and um
Let's see. Oh
But I don't think i've seen it printed. Um like in
my area they used to have
free papers with
Free boxes, you know out on the street, which I guess are private property by the way, you can't put stickers on those
um, is it what size is it or is it like a magazine or you know, and so
Um
Yeah, and then we put the telegram link in the uh in the chat and we put your um
Your url for your main, you know where people can get the pdf. Is there any other
Thing other than telegram. Well, I think you have a twitter account, right?
So no, none of those are active. I haven't even got um, I haven't got access to the facebook
Page either it doesn't really matter
The the network's kind of set up and when and it's just kind of evolved almost by itself
When somebody drops out somebody else comes in and you're asking about the obviously the distribution model
And nowadays basically we get it printed
And we then get it taken to around 20
warehouse hubs across the country
and then from there
And people will either parcel up
And the 50s 100s to what we're happy to send out to other people or they will directly give them to
Um, you know distributors in their in their area and they'll take them away and and what have you some people go out
Deliver them do they've got regular rounds businesses shops, you know news agents cafes takeaways, etc, etc that we drop them off all the time
The difference in response
And obviously this is feedback from all the distributors difference in response now
Um to what it was like in 2020 21 22 and people being abused
Uh, you know, obviously shouted at spatter. I hope you die and all the rest of it too now
Have you got any more of them papers? Have you got any more? Have you got the latest issue? You got latest issue yet?
Um, i've got that one, you know what I mean? Um
It's incredible. It's great to see it's great people that people are more more open to the truth
And and the more more places that do it across the across the across the across the world really
And the better it'll be for all of us
In terms of the design it's evolved. Um, I completely honestly stole the times
For our early designs, um completely copied there basically their front page
and and
And then about a year and a half two years ago
Again, as has been in my experience with the light vapor is that a professional graphic designer with you know, some great work
So hey, can I kind of redesign the the the paper for you free?
Like yeah, sure
And that's why it looks the way it does. It's future proof now. I mean that that logo will last for a very long time
and
Uh, we'll keep the format
It will be a newspaper even if it is a monthly and it's more of a monthly record if you like
um, but again, i'm um, you know, I I just pick the articles
and
You know the ones that people send or got obviously go source it for the ones that I want to include
And and then I send them across to our amazing layout designer
And mickey also does a lot of the center spreads a lot of the there's a lot of design work for us
And he's absolutely brilliant. He's funny enough. He's floating around mexico and the united states at the moment
and
And yeah, so, you know, we kind of design it between us
And look if the right person has got the take takes the ball by the horn says I want to do this paper
We should do a freak. We should do a paper like this. You know what I mean?
Um, just copy the model and obviously i'm here for any advice. Um as well. I've already got about five minutes left guys
So, um, if you want to ask last questions and wrap up sure. Yeah, so tom, uh, there you go
You can be a newspaper
Proprietor you didn't know what to do. So now you know what you're gonna do
Which state are you in tom?
Kansas was it? Uh, yeah, no no, uh, wisconsin, which is north of illinois. I know only wisconsin
Yeah, yeah
And right now
Now i'm on the other side of the lake. Uh, uh in the 45th parallel
Um in michigan, isn't it?
Lower lower michigan. Yeah
Having a non-seasonally warm winter
Oh cold summer. Yeah. Yeah, definitely
Although today it's gotten cooler
All right. Thanks. Yeah
So thank you tom, so are you going to create a newspaper in america tom?
Do it
I do know I like I said I
It sounds like you are depending on volunteers once it gets out of the warehouse, right?
And that's that network can be reused for other things because you've established friendly. Um
Relationships, so I would imagine you could other people
Could possibly share that network, you know to put up flyers and you know shops that allow like, uh,
Your paper probably wouldn't allow flyers for example, right? Yeah
Yeah, exactly. Maybe we should
Maybe we should get to get interested in forming a newspaper
In the united states and then they will sell him to send him to prison next time
So jerome coursey he's a phd on on the course, um, he's a brilliant guy
And he stopped the rusher gate investigate muller investigation
By they were they were angling for a plea deal
from uh for jerome they wanted they wanted him to accept a plea deal and then they wouldn't send him to prison
But if he didn't accept it then they would send him to prison that was the message so
If he didn't accept it then they would send him to prison that was the message so
Guess what jerome said?
I will not lie before god
Even if I have to go to prison for the rest of my life and guess what they didn't indict him
Isn't that a great story?
You stand straight you stand stand tall for the for the right thing do the right thing for the right reasons
No matter what the end it's absolutely
It's the exact opposite of the ends justify the means and then when you do that even your enemies respect you
Yeah, so uh police the police that will be coming to arrest you and bring you cups of tea and all the rest of it
They're always violent on the streets. So when you get in the death sergeants, you know, it's it's always a good crack as it were
the other day and
You know nobody should fear being arrested by the police for doing the right thing
Nobody should fear being in prison for for the rest of their lives because people don't know i don't know
But i'm one of the three doctors who changed the narrative. Um
About david kelly's death. So everybody in the uk thought that it was um suicide because that's what they were pushing out
And along come three doctors who never met each other. We were put together by a woman called roena thursby
Who got an intermediary to contact us individually?
So she had noticed brilliantly
That these three doctors what I was one of them around the world were writing roughly the same thing
About david kelly's death. There was no inquest. I was particularly interested in no inquest
And we changed public opinion and people used to come up to me all the time and say oh steven, you know
You shouldn't do this
It's too dangerous. I say look, I don't have a choice. I have to do it. I have to do it
I'm very interested in it. I'm not doing anything illegal. And if they want to destroy my life, let them go ahead
I didn't fear
I just had to do it and I was very very interested in it
And of course, you know what happens when you're extremely interested
You get super human powers and some of the stuff that we produced we were really into it and we did incredibly well, but
We didn't plan it. Uh
We just didn't I did say we need to put we had six letters published in the guardian
And one in the new statesman and after the new statesman letter was published
All saying that essentially they needed an inquest and that david kelly's suicide had not been proved by lord hutton
And they didn't know what we published everything every damn thing was published that we ever uttered
And they couldn't deal with us because and they lost control of the story and eventually now people say oh he was bumped off
But before we spoke up
He'd been killed he he'd committed suicide, but he hadn't committed suicide
So three people three people yeah, but we had the same thing people saying oh steven you shouldn't be saying that, you know
It's dangerous for you and no
No, we had to do it and then I imagine you have the same mindset
It's your moment you need to do it so and more people need to understand that
Absolutely, don't be afraid of the consequences if you're doing the right thing for the right absolutely
They were terrified of us in the end. I realized it we got lawyers involved. We got brilliant lawyers involved and um
They just couldn't do anything without us publishing everything
And we really thought about everything we said
Anyway, so it's a great story. I maybe I can write it
There's an article there
Yes, I was thinking we've never directly covered
David kelly's death
so if you want to if you want to do an article on it and you know how how you change the you know what I mean because
Inspiring stories like that will will motivate people. I was saying, you know three of you three people. That's it three people
With regard to david kelly and the iraq war and
So i'm in contact with a brilliant british doctor now who is from iraq
And he knew me from iraq
Or at least through his father who's iraqi, of course
And so but I didn't know him but he's one of my best friends now carrom sosa
Wonderful. He's a great guy. So anyway, diana maria henry is
Next oh, i'm not sure she's there. Oh, yes. Yes
Yeah, I thank you. I just wanted to uh to hear the website or get the website name
okay, thank you
the light paper dot co dot uk the light paper dot co dot uk
I did see a request to see the website go really slowly
And so thanks for that opportunity to say it and everything you want to do is on there and everything on there
Has been suggested by people though. Oh, can you do this? Can we do that? Can we want to do this?
Can we do that? Yeah, absolutely great. Get it all on there's also a whole bunch of downloads on there
As well as every back issue. There's all the sensor spreads which work great as memes
on various different subjects
And you know, there's lots of other stuff on there as well. So, um, yeah help yourself. It's free
Yeah
So darren, I think this is one of the problems of a lot of very able human beings
They manage to convince themselves that they can't make a difference
And it's not true. You can become an expert. It was a great surprise to me that I heard from
A third party that the Daily Mail regarded me as the world expert on david kelly by the end
But and I thought about it. I thought that can't be but then
I thought I somehow thought that experts were created that they just arrived, you know, but you can make yourself an expert
You can go back to school at anything you want
And while we have the free access of the internet and everybody else's thoughts and ideas and knowledge and experience
Use it and and you know use it for the things that you're drawn to and most interesting like what should have happened
When you were six or ten in school in the first place, but as an adult now you can you can you know
Oh, well, you did this right here. Yeah, either you know start again start again
I can say start again every single day is an opportunity to say I can I you know
I can I can develop myself more can be a better version of myself. Yeah
One of the most important pieces of advice I can give to people
And maybe you would agree that this is that people need to understand what their strengths are
You play to your strengths you think what am I most interested in?
What am I best at?
and and then
You really motor them
But a lot of people are trying to do things that they're not suited for because they want to copy someone else
Instead of relying on their own instincts as to what they should do in the particular situation in which they find themselves and then
Single-mindedly pursuing their vision if they have any you know, because some people are creative
And but they need to trust their instincts
And then let the creativity take over. Um, that's the real awakening
sure
understanding the truth about the world and the mechanisms and all the rest of it is reasonably easy to do to be honest, but
Understanding that the deception you've been told about yourself and the limits to your abilities
Absolutely
Throw it all out be a child again
Although with adult adult experiences and resources and skills and all their own networks and everything else
They do all the advantages that you've got but be a child again and go I want to do this
I once spoke with a sweet shop. Absolutely
You know, and that's what you did. I want to farm cows. I want to provide I want to provide meat or milk or whatever
You know, whatever it is you draw onto honestly, there are no rules there's no rules to life
Oh in your case, darren you thought I want to do a newspaper and you did it to your great credit
But you had to do it alone is interestingly because I don't think you can make
You can make a a difference a real difference
In a committee making committee decisions, you know, so you have to kind of
So you have to trust your instincts and follow um
Slavishly almost and just bat everybody away who's saying oh, I wouldn't do it like that
You end up doing nothing then because everybody's saying oh, yeah, you know, you're not as good as you think you are whatever, you know
Okay. Well
You understand what I mean?
Take a swing and don't mind missing, you know what I mean? Correct
Again as a child
You don't care about that. You don't care about falling over on the football field. You're gonna get up and have another go
You know what I mean?
So, um
You know we care more about how we're perceived than actually doing doing the right things, you know what?
What will happen if such and such well
There is a time to keep your cars close to your chest and stay in the beast and stay in the system if it's if it's
You know advantageous in some way what have you but
It's very very hard to stay in for a long time if you're awake because you have to you know
Keep your mouth shut about a whole bunch of stuff, but you can also obviously be a dissident inside the system
It's for everybody, you know what I mean? It's for everybody to take their own individual path
And discovering they really are what they can bring to the table to help wake people up and help resist
And because at the end of the day, it's all about personal transformation. You go from being a slave in fear
and
you know
From from you know from crisis to crisis really, you know
It's really nice being awake and watching having the news go on
It's like being neo in the matrix and the news is going on there whatever they're coming out with, you know
It's on stage. It's on the show. Yeah, the more you watch the less you'll know. So, you know
Just let let them do let them do their thing if it needs comments on like the like the the provoked riots
And we did a nice timeline
And you know showing how people have just been played and provoked and manipulated, you know
I mean by the media and by the by the government
and
And you know if emotions are running high then then I will try and you know
delve into the situation and try and show people
Why and what you know how they're being manipulated, you know
So darren you'll be you'll be very interested to know that when I was doing that work with the david kelly thing
And it went on for the battle went on the war went on for about six years
But it was very enjoyable. I was really into it big time
And so were my two colleagues from one was from south africa
I never met him and the other was from devon in the united kingdom. I never met him either. I have done i've met him
since um, several times but not the south african doctor his name was senate searl
And uh, he was an anesthetist in south africa
And uh, we're forever joined in combat
So and david helping was in north devon and me in north wales
and um, but at the time I was working as a doctor for the military
During the whole period
Right, so so I knew I knew that they wouldn't kind of I mean as far as one can know that they wouldn't murder me
to silence me
Because I I had a lot of military officer friends. Um, and um
You know
As he just caused a huge problem, which is why I've really got to sign off guys
But um why you know a lot of the false flags are you know, a lot of people don't die in them at all
You know people go. Oh, well, you know who would do that? Well anybody for a 400 000 pound go for me go for my kitty
and
Uh, you know, I could honestly I can talk for hours and hours and hours on lots and lots of different subjects
But um, yeah, i'm gonna have to get my i'm gonna have to get a head down because I've got three
Yeah, three huge projects on at the moment my my message to everybody is
And be be more you and be the best version of yourself possibly your own competition yourself
and and
Uh, you are far more powerful and capable than anybody ever taught you know
I am living proof of that
I was working for royal mail driving about in 2018 and now i'm a national truth paper or a national newspaper
Um, and it's um fighting for the truth is a hell of a lot of fun
I've got to say it's hard work and all the rest of but it's fun because this is the best job i've ever ever had
Absolutely. I understand that yeah
Thank you so much for coming on
And I noted i've noted that you've done an incredible thing
But you're very humble about it and that's really great
Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. God bless you everybody. Good night. Good night
See you soon or wherever you are across the world. Yes. Okay. Bye. Bye