1 0:00:00 --> 0:00:02 So I 2 0:00:02 --> 0:00:04 Instead of the bio because I 3 0:00:04 --> 0:00:08 So I rather we'd missed the bio and I thought I'll just put the Wikipedia entry 4 0:00:09 --> 0:00:16 You know where we usually have the bio for you to read out and the BBC entry and the BBC have really gone to town 5 0:00:16 --> 0:00:21 They clearly don't like what the light newspaper or Darren 6 0:00:22 --> 0:00:27 You know for all the reasons that we know about but if you read so I put the links there 7 0:00:27 --> 0:00:32 Charles if you want to read a bit of it, you'll get the picture, you know, they've really had a go 8 0:00:32 --> 0:00:38 At Darren and you can see through it. We can see through it. Yeah, we actually recorded it 9 0:00:38 --> 0:00:40 We recorded the interview that they requested 10 0:00:41 --> 0:00:45 Rather than say no because they were gonna write the piece anyway, and anybody can look it up. It's 11 0:00:46 --> 0:00:53 Marianna spring Darren Nesbitt and Marianna spring from the BBC and the actual full version on room was some fight three and a half three 12 0:00:53 --> 0:00:55 hours I had to sit through her 13 0:00:56 --> 0:00:58 BBC Nus shall we say 14 0:00:59 --> 0:01:05 Yes, a fascinating insight and then when you see where you the article you're about to read and was drawn from this interview 15 0:01:06 --> 0:01:12 Which at no point did I say anything hateful violent racist anti-semitic far-right or anything else? Of course, you know 16 0:01:12 --> 0:01:18 I mean the end of the day if you're against the establishment for against the plans if you're there to expose the agenda by simply 17 0:01:18 --> 0:01:23 Stand up and tell them the truth. You must be labeled. That's the tactic of yeah, sure 18 0:01:24 --> 0:01:30 The thing I picked up Darren was that you you know, they don't seem to understand that you don't care how much they criticize 19 0:01:33 --> 0:01:36 All right, come on let's get this show on the road in a structured way 20 0:01:36 --> 0:01:39 Hello everybody. Welcome to medical doctors for 21 0:01:40 --> 0:01:46 COVID ethics international and today's discussion where Darren Nesbitt the founder of the light 22 0:01:46 --> 0:01:48 newspaper is our 23 0:01:48 --> 0:01:51 Guest this group was founded by dr. Stephen Frost 24 0:01:52 --> 0:01:57 Over three years ago with the desire to pursue truth ethics justice freedom and health 25 0:01:58 --> 0:02:04 Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower and activist his medical specialty is radiology 26 0:02:05 --> 0:02:12 We remember at this time a great warrior for freedom like the lightest like the light newspaper is and that's Ryan a formic 27 0:02:12 --> 0:02:19 Who's in jail undergoing a corrupted show trial by the German government and the German court system? 28 0:02:20 --> 0:02:22 He's had 30 days in 29 0:02:23 --> 0:02:24 in 30 0:02:24 --> 0:02:30 30 days of court hearings and the next court hearing is apparently scheduled for the 16th of October 31 0:02:31 --> 0:02:32 so 32 0:02:32 --> 0:02:37 Please write to him and please share his please share his situation 33 0:02:38 --> 0:02:42 There are people on this call who have got excellent information. Anyone's got links 34 0:02:42 --> 0:02:48 They want to share please put those into the chat about Reiner and Norbert Norbert is here from Germany 35 0:02:48 --> 0:02:50 He's also got good information 36 0:02:50 --> 0:02:57 Dagmar spoke to us on Sunday about what's happening with Reiner. I'm Charles Covets the moderator of this group. I'm Australasias passion 37 0:02:58 --> 0:03:01 Provocateur and we have lots of passionate people in this 38 0:03:02 --> 0:03:07 In these meetings I practiced law for 20 years before changing Korea 31 years ago 39 0:03:07 --> 0:03:15 And over the last 14 years I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice 40 0:03:15 --> 0:03:19 Bad medical advice is now the number one killer in the USA 41 0:03:20 --> 0:03:24 I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company and 42 0:03:24 --> 0:03:29 Industrial hemp is going to be one of the great saviors of humanity against the globalist agenda 43 0:03:29 --> 0:03:32 Which is as evil as you could possibly imagine 44 0:03:33 --> 0:03:37 We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world 45 0:03:38 --> 0:03:44 Many of us thought that vaccines were okay. Now many of us proudly say yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers 46 0:03:45 --> 0:03:47 And we now know from the admissions of many 47 0:03:48 --> 0:03:52 experts including the alleged godfather of vaccines 48 0:03:52 --> 0:04:01 Childhood vaccines Stanley Plotkin that no vaccines have ever been properly tested for safety or efficacy ever in the history of 49 0:04:02 --> 0:04:07 Humanity so anyone who is passionate anyone who's an anti-vaxxer is incredibly intelligent 50 0:04:08 --> 0:04:15 If this is your first time here welcome and feel free to introduce yourself in the chat if you publish a newsletter or a 51 0:04:15 --> 0:04:17 podcast as Darren does 52 0:04:17 --> 0:04:22 Or you have a radio a TV show or you've written a book put the links into the chat so we can follow you promote 53 0:04:22 --> 0:04:24 You and find you 54 0:04:24 --> 0:04:30 Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War three and and that the medical science battle is only one of 12 55 0:04:30 --> 0:04:33 battlefields of this latest world war 56 0:04:33 --> 0:04:37 There's no time to be tired. We're some four and a half years into a seven-year war 57 0:04:37 --> 0:04:42 I assess some of you might say it's longer shorter. There's a big war going on and 58 0:04:42 --> 0:04:43 And 59 0:04:43 --> 0:04:45 and 60 0:04:45 --> 0:04:50 You need to be I need to be healthy and fit and passionate about fighting this war 61 0:04:51 --> 0:04:56 Most of us understand the development of science and the science is never settled some of us believe that 62 0:04:56 --> 0:05:02 Viruses exist some of us believe that viruses are a hoax and some of us sit firmly on the fence 63 0:05:03 --> 0:05:09 This meeting runs for two and a half hours after which for those with the time Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting Tom puts 64 0:05:09 --> 0:05:15 Into the chat if you're able to join we'll listen to our guest presenter today Darren Nesbitt the founder of the light newspaper 65 0:05:15 --> 0:05:24 But long as Darren wishes to speak and then we have Q&A Stephen Frost by a long-established tradition asks the first questions for 15 66 0:05:25 --> 0:05:27 Minutes, this is a free speech 67 0:05:27 --> 0:05:34 Environment with appropriate moderating free speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human freedoms 68 0:05:35 --> 0:05:39 If you're offended by anything be offended we are lovingly not interested 69 0:05:40 --> 0:05:48 We reject the offense industry that requires nobody to say anything that may offend another we similarly reject the triggering industry 70 0:05:48 --> 0:05:53 We reject the idea that you shouldn't say something that may trigger somebody else 71 0:05:55 --> 0:06:01 We come with an attitude and perspective of love not fear fear is the opposite of love fear squashes you 72 0:06:02 --> 0:06:04 enslaves you 73 0:06:04 --> 0:06:06 Love on the other hand 74 0:06:06 --> 0:06:08 Expand you liberates you 75 0:06:09 --> 0:06:15 These twice weekly meetings are not just talk fests an extraordinary range of actions and initiatives have been 76 0:06:15 --> 0:06:18 Generated from linkages made by attendees in these meetings 77 0:06:19 --> 0:06:23 If you have a solution or a product or links or resources that will help people put the links into the chat 78 0:06:24 --> 0:06:28 The meeting is recorded and is uploaded onto the rumble channel 79 0:06:28 --> 0:06:34 And now welcome to our guest presenter Darren Nesbitt and we thank you Darren for giving us your time 80 0:06:34 --> 0:06:37 Sharing your wisdom and insights and let me share some background 81 0:06:39 --> 0:06:41 about Darren 82 0:06:41 --> 0:06:43 from the light from 83 0:06:43 --> 0:06:48 Wikipedia and so Darren has many in entries in Wikipedia and 84 0:06:49 --> 0:06:54 He is the this is what Wikipedia says that the light is a self-published monthly British 85 0:06:55 --> 0:06:59 Hey, you are far right and conspiracy theory newspaper 86 0:06:59 --> 0:07:02 Founded by Darren Scott Nesbitt 87 0:07:03 --> 0:07:07 frequently under the pseudonym Darren Smith on 27 September 2020 88 0:07:08 --> 0:07:11 Which claims this covert 19 pandemic was a hoax 89 0:07:12 --> 0:07:18 The paper has a sister publication and the Irish lights, which was launched in Ireland by Gemma 90 0:07:19 --> 0:07:22 O'Dowd and John Waters a free Australian paper the light Australia 91 0:07:23 --> 0:07:28 Has is also linked to the light and everybody on the internet 92 0:07:29 --> 0:07:31 I have for you here 93 0:07:31 --> 0:07:34 My copy of the light Australia. I've got all 14 editions 94 0:07:35 --> 0:07:37 Physical editions, but they're all available online 95 0:07:39 --> 0:07:45 The light Darren's paper has been criticized for spreading covert 19 misinformation blah blah blah blah blah 96 0:07:47 --> 0:07:49 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 97 0:07:50 --> 0:07:52 Don't worry about all that crap 98 0:07:52 --> 0:07:55 Darren is a true freedom warrior and 99 0:07:56 --> 0:08:00 We need all of us pushing back against this claimed 100 0:08:01 --> 0:08:06 Nonsense of misinformation and disinformation which is designed to shut people up 101 0:08:07 --> 0:08:09 So Darren, thank you for being here. Thank you, Stephen 102 0:08:10 --> 0:08:14 Can you read a little bit more because you see how desperate they have been to? 103 0:08:15 --> 0:08:17 I'm not gonna publish their shit 104 0:08:19 --> 0:08:24 For creating this group and for organizing Darren to be here Darren 105 0:08:24 --> 0:08:28 We are in your hands and well done for starting the light 106 0:08:29 --> 0:08:30 Well, thank you very much 107 0:08:30 --> 0:08:35 I actually didn't realize I didn't realize the form I was supposed to do be doing a formal presentation 108 0:08:35 --> 0:08:38 Well, as you can probably tell by the by the quick pre chat we just have 109 0:08:39 --> 0:08:43 Wind me up for 30 seconds and I'll go for a go 110 0:08:43 --> 0:08:47 Anything you like for a couple of hours. It doesn't matter what the subject is 111 0:08:49 --> 0:08:51 So Darren 112 0:08:52 --> 0:08:56 So Darren were you shocked by what happened in March 2020 113 0:08:57 --> 0:09:03 Not not one little bit. Okay. Oh, well, can you understand why some people were shocked them? 114 0:09:04 --> 0:09:09 Completely and still and still are and I still pray for more and more people to wake up all the time and see 115 0:09:10 --> 0:09:13 Whatever strand of the truth whatever one of the other the 12 116 0:09:14 --> 0:09:18 Aspects of World War three is being being thrust upon us 117 0:09:18 --> 0:09:22 Whatever wake somebody up and gets them to join the the land of truth 118 0:09:23 --> 0:09:26 the land of reality in the land of truth is is 119 0:09:26 --> 0:09:28 okay, baby and 120 0:09:28 --> 0:09:32 So yeah, no, he didn't shock me because I woke up in 2013. I 121 0:09:32 --> 0:09:34 see 122 0:09:34 --> 0:09:40 Darren what you did in the UK was absolutely brilliant. I've seen that so in I'm in Corwin Bay in North Wales 123 0:09:40 --> 0:09:43 which is a town of about 25,000 124 0:09:44 --> 0:09:46 seaside resort from long ago and and 125 0:09:48 --> 0:09:53 I've read you know, in the dark times of 2020 and 2021 I 126 0:09:54 --> 0:09:56 Was very happy to read the light 127 0:09:57 --> 0:10:01 It's a brilliant idea that you came up with and you did it so quickly as well 128 0:10:02 --> 0:10:05 It's like the summons that somebody pointed out no longer 129 0:10:05 --> 0:10:07 It's like the summons that in in the summer 130 0:10:08 --> 0:10:14 It's like the summer is that you know, it's like the summer is that you know, it's like the summer is that you know 131 0:10:14 --> 0:10:18 The summons that somebody pointed out no longer like the summons that in Soviet Russia 132 0:10:18 --> 0:10:23 It's just what human beings will do when they know they're being fed mushrooms 133 0:10:24 --> 0:10:26 fed like mushrooms should we say and 134 0:10:27 --> 0:10:30 You know, there's a new way of doing the news and 135 0:10:31 --> 0:10:37 People because the thing with the light is it's by the people for the people really as we don't tell people I 136 0:10:37 --> 0:10:42 Mean obviously there's opinion pieces or you know what having bought for the most part the actual, you know 137 0:10:42 --> 0:10:48 Actual news and reports and everything else. Look anybody can write right for us. Obviously there's a 138 0:10:48 --> 0:10:50 There's quite a high journalistic standard 139 0:10:51 --> 0:10:53 But the point is it's not closed club. It's not you know 140 0:10:54 --> 0:10:57 What have you in the early day in the early days? 141 0:10:57 --> 0:11:03 We were criticized for not covering certain topics or you must be control opposition and my answer every time is no problem 142 0:11:03 --> 0:11:06 Get it on a word document found under 800 words 143 0:11:07 --> 0:11:09 and 144 0:11:09 --> 0:11:11 Under 800 145 0:11:13 --> 0:11:17 Have to be able to take the skill the skill of what we do and I suppose any any kind of flyer 146 0:11:17 --> 0:11:20 You know any kind of pamphlet area is to be able to distill 147 0:11:21 --> 0:11:28 You know quite complex and advanced information sometimes and be able to explain it to and the man on the street 148 0:11:29 --> 0:11:33 You know, sometimes people say we're a little bit we're a little bit 149 0:11:33 --> 0:11:36 I mean you know you get criticism from either side but the other day 150 0:11:36 --> 0:11:42 We've been doing something right for four years and as you say much needed especially during the lockdowns because well 151 0:11:43 --> 0:11:46 The amount of people that told me that they woke up, you know 152 0:11:46 --> 0:11:50 They found that they found the newspaper on the door, you know on the doormat in the morning 153 0:11:50 --> 0:11:52 So we'd obviously been during the night to deliver them 154 0:11:53 --> 0:11:56 And they went that I can't believe this 155 0:11:56 --> 0:12:01 This is everything I I think everything I believe and it was connecting people and in such a great way 156 0:12:01 --> 0:12:04 And that was the idea of it was it was completely you know 157 0:12:04 --> 0:12:08 It was completely to help form these local communities which are now everywhere, which is wonderful 158 0:12:08 --> 0:12:13 There's nothing organized by it's not official local communities or anything. I don't I don't subscribe to that bottle 159 0:12:13 --> 0:12:21 I am you know support any kind of association and any kind of you know, getting together and what have you but and yeah 160 0:12:22 --> 0:12:26 Economics where it's at if we don't have the power to sustain ourselves 161 0:12:26 --> 0:12:33 Then any kind of political or or legal or any kind of other protesters is just a waste of time 162 0:12:33 --> 0:12:41 It's why strikes never work. So Darren how many copies did you print in 2020 September 2020 in that first edition? 163 0:12:41 --> 0:12:43 first edition we printed 164 0:12:44 --> 0:12:47 20,000 was the first rule 165 0:12:50 --> 0:12:52 How many print now 166 0:12:53 --> 0:12:55 We do a hundred and fifty thousand 167 0:12:56 --> 0:13:01 per month and we peaked at three hundred thousand in December of 168 0:13:01 --> 0:13:03 22 and 169 0:13:04 --> 0:13:11 If you remember they were talking about they were floating the idea because they test balloon things all the time through the press 170 0:13:12 --> 0:13:14 And then see the reaction on social media 171 0:13:15 --> 0:13:21 And I think it become pretty obvious that the country was not gonna even if the government said yes 172 0:13:21 --> 0:13:24 You must lock down for Christmas. Nobody was gonna pay any attention to it whatsoever 173 0:13:24 --> 0:13:28 And they would have looked obviously ridiculously weak in the end. Nobody should be 174 0:13:29 --> 0:13:35 Underestimating what we did if you were there on the streets of London at any point between May 2020 and 175 0:13:37 --> 0:13:43 You know the end of 2022 I suppose and you helped stop coping passports or health passports and 176 0:13:43 --> 0:13:51 Continue lockdowns and the complete rollout of the whole agenda. I mean we know about it, but you know when they're defeated 177 0:13:51 --> 0:13:57 Temporarily they they just step back. They you know reassess or they have all the plans anyway, so it won't just take the time 178 0:13:57 --> 0:14:00 it's a generational thing for them and they get us to think so short-term and 179 0:14:03 --> 0:14:05 Sorry, my mom is a million things 180 0:14:07 --> 0:14:13 So you said three hundred thousand copies so let's just get some perspective on that three hundred thousand 181 0:14:13 --> 0:14:17 We'll call it a third of a million. So if ten people read every newspaper 182 0:14:17 --> 0:14:21 Do you think that's an overestimate or because it was passed around people got the idea? 183 0:14:22 --> 0:14:24 It was kind of passed around like gold 184 0:14:27 --> 0:14:30 Illicit contraband. Yes. So what do you say and so? 185 0:14:32 --> 0:14:33 Because it was illegal it was even better 186 0:14:33 --> 0:14:40 you know, so you were you were advertising stand in the park and all the other things that were going on in the newspaper and 187 0:14:41 --> 0:14:47 I just think it made such a difference. It's very hard to measure it and to know what I think without it 188 0:14:47 --> 0:14:53 We might have been in a different place including as you say we might have been locked down for that second Christmas in 2022 189 0:14:53 --> 0:14:58 Yeah, I mean that was the that was the spirit of the of the country was the spirit of every country in the west 190 0:14:58 --> 0:15:00 I mean there was 191 0:15:00 --> 0:15:02 Sorry, so there's 2021 192 0:15:02 --> 0:15:04 They're winding up with the alpha variant. Do you remember? 193 0:15:06 --> 0:15:12 And saying oh, it's very contained Chris Witty. I was thinking what a liar you are Chris Witty the chief medical officer of England 194 0:15:13 --> 0:15:20 Saying that it was highly transmissible and didn't even mention the virulence. So it doesn't matter how transmissible it is if it's not 195 0:15:20 --> 0:15:23 Virulent that's if you believe in viruses, which I a lot of us don't 196 0:15:25 --> 0:15:31 So anyway, so let's say 10 people read each newspaper. I think that's not an overestimate 197 0:15:31 --> 0:15:36 Do you that's that's three million people at least you're reaching three and a half million maybe 198 0:15:37 --> 0:15:44 At that time yeah, because obviously, you know everybody wanted to you know resist and and and wait and wake their neighbors or make 199 0:15:45 --> 0:15:47 people around them obviously and 200 0:15:47 --> 0:15:50 We're kind of now in peacetime so it's it's it's dropped down 201 0:15:51 --> 0:15:58 I have no no doubts that when whenever they start the next push on whatever front it will it will obviously start, you know rising again and 202 0:15:58 --> 0:16:03 And what have you and but the thing with the light paper, I mean it wasn't illegal 203 0:16:04 --> 0:16:06 That's for sure. And 204 0:16:07 --> 0:16:10 It was never illegal to go out or what have you there was no, you know 205 0:16:10 --> 0:16:14 There was no legislation to say yeah at the end of the day the car the carter would turn the power on 206 0:16:14 --> 0:16:19 Legislation to say yeah at the end of the day the carter will turn the bill of rights. Yeah, so darren why do you think? 207 0:16:20 --> 0:16:27 This is no bill of rights the law. Yeah, the law says that foundational document goes before everything 208 0:16:27 --> 0:16:34 Is that whoever's in charge whoever spoke whoever's given like the king or whatever, but whoever's been given the responsibility to run the country 209 0:16:35 --> 0:16:39 Cannot make it, you know cannot tyrannize you it's there. It's there in the constitution 210 0:16:39 --> 0:16:46 It's there as a foundational document the law and the coronation oath, which every monarch swears upon becoming king king or queen 211 0:16:47 --> 0:16:51 And has them swear that they will protect the ancient laws and customs of the land 212 0:16:51 --> 0:16:56 I mean obviously back in the back in the english civil war days or rather in the glorious revolution days 213 0:16:56 --> 0:17:00 This was obviously about religion. I mean imagine now yeah being told 214 0:17:01 --> 0:17:07 Exactly what to think and what to believe and being forced to and if you don't you you you might get 215 0:17:07 --> 0:17:11 Be certainly get persecuted you might get killed etc. Nothing changes. It's the same fight over and over again 216 0:17:12 --> 0:17:18 You know those who want to those who want to rule want it all they want power is, you know, absolute power is absolutely 217 0:17:19 --> 0:17:21 Corrupted and all the rest of it 218 0:17:21 --> 0:17:26 So they want it all these people are crazy psychopaths and they believe they have a divine right to rule the world 219 0:17:26 --> 0:17:30 Whether you think they came from ancient aliens or what have you. I don't know 220 0:17:30 --> 0:17:33 um, I know they're not 221 0:17:33 --> 0:17:39 Because there are no aliens or demons or anything like that there is god obviously, um, but 222 0:17:40 --> 0:17:44 It's the old sun zoo that so they make themselves appear far more powerful 223 0:17:44 --> 0:17:50 And then they actually are and everybody's afraid even at the truth movement because we've all read david ike and the anunnaki and all that 224 0:17:50 --> 0:17:53 uh, but if you go to zekaria if you go to 16iswrong.com 225 0:17:53 --> 0:17:56 And you will see an actual cuneiform scholar 226 0:17:57 --> 0:18:00 Just demolish zekaria sichtians nonsense from the 60s 227 0:18:00 --> 0:18:04 Which every other thing is based upon just a little bit tip here. We still talk about the light paper 228 0:18:06 --> 0:18:07 Yeah 229 0:18:07 --> 0:18:15 So, um, what do you think it was that was different about you darren which caused you to form the newspaper so quickly in the uk? 230 0:18:16 --> 0:18:17 um 231 0:18:17 --> 0:18:22 And I think they were like at the very last hour almost before publication 232 0:18:22 --> 0:18:25 There were other people on board and they jumped off for some 233 0:18:25 --> 0:18:31 Unbelievable reason I don't know why but and you were left on your own but you still went ahead and published it good for you 234 0:18:32 --> 0:18:33 Yeah 235 0:18:33 --> 0:18:36 Yeah, I had I had to I had to it had to be done 236 0:18:36 --> 0:18:40 even if it was just one issue and it was very hard that last week or two when 237 0:18:40 --> 0:18:43 Um, yeah, I was just like left on my own to do it 238 0:18:43 --> 0:18:46 So why did the others jump off then? What was no idea? 239 0:18:47 --> 0:18:51 No idea still don't know to this day. Oh, maybe they were working for the other side 240 0:18:52 --> 0:18:53 No, I don't think so 241 0:18:53 --> 0:18:55 I mean 242 0:18:55 --> 0:19:01 Possible but but unlikely i'd organize the thing is we'd organize coaches to look to the london protest from manchester 243 0:19:01 --> 0:19:05 And we organized flyers and leaflets and crowdfunding and all the rest of it 244 0:19:05 --> 0:19:10 So we're already kind of working together to help inform the public and help get people to you know 245 0:19:10 --> 0:19:11 All the rest of it 246 0:19:11 --> 0:19:15 So that's one of the reasons why we were able to launch the paper so quickly because you know 247 0:19:16 --> 0:19:21 We built a really strong network of people who wanted to help and wanted to you know 248 0:19:21 --> 0:19:25 Get involved and get distributed and obviously help help fund the paper and all the rest of it 249 0:19:26 --> 0:19:28 But it wasn't until after the first issue came out 250 0:19:28 --> 0:19:33 That it really took off. It was like this this is actually real now. This is a thing, right? 251 0:19:33 --> 0:19:38 Let's get involved and you know, the guy who organized the distribution all over the country is still with us 252 0:19:39 --> 0:19:45 And from that day in fact, there's been one personnel change since we started which is this is again a testament to how 253 0:19:45 --> 0:19:50 How well you can actually leave people to just do their do their jobs if it's something that the question of believe 254 0:19:50 --> 0:19:52 And they get over me 255 0:19:52 --> 0:19:54 They're brilliant when you leave them on their own. Yes, so 256 0:19:55 --> 0:19:56 some people 257 0:19:56 --> 0:19:57 so 258 0:19:57 --> 0:19:58 distribution guy 259 0:19:58 --> 0:20:01 He came up with some novel ideas about how to 260 0:20:02 --> 0:20:10 Uh, there was something about you. Is it free this newspaper because it refers sorry. It's free to the reader 261 0:20:10 --> 0:20:12 Free to the reader 262 0:20:12 --> 0:20:14 Obviously activists have to pay for it 263 0:20:14 --> 0:20:17 You know, obviously activists are happy to pay for it because it's like a 264 0:20:17 --> 0:20:20 Multi-flier leaflet drop info drop 265 0:20:21 --> 0:20:24 And every month for very little money. It's like, you know 266 0:20:24 --> 0:20:29 Between so can I ask you have you got any experience in journalism prior to this or nothing? 267 0:20:29 --> 0:20:32 No, only writing facebook posts for a lot for a long time 268 0:20:33 --> 0:20:34 Yeah 269 0:20:34 --> 0:20:37 and so um, and can you give us some idea how 270 0:20:38 --> 0:20:43 Things were set up, you know how desperate things were in just before publication of the first copy 271 0:20:43 --> 0:20:47 Uh, you were left on your own and and so how did you actually? 272 0:20:48 --> 0:20:53 Do it, you know in terms that we understand and you know the distribution and all the other stuff that goes into 273 0:20:53 --> 0:20:56 so and also I don't think people realize that 274 0:20:57 --> 0:21:03 The light newspaper there were no journalists per se were there? Um, and and the journalists if you like all the 275 0:21:04 --> 0:21:09 Articles which were very on topic the kind of thing that we would talk about in this group. Um, 276 0:21:10 --> 0:21:17 You they were all written by readers and and who submitted their entries it's just brilliant idea 277 0:21:23 --> 0:21:26 Sorry, I don't know what happened then the sound went a bit weird 278 0:21:27 --> 0:21:29 Oh, sorry, I thought somebody else was talking 279 0:21:30 --> 0:21:35 Oh, it was charles who I think was lit up. Um 280 0:21:36 --> 0:21:40 Um, so if anybody wants to ask questions I encourage you to ask questions because 281 0:21:41 --> 0:21:43 Hands up everybody and darren 282 0:21:43 --> 0:21:47 Can I just suggest there are people here for whom english is their? 283 0:21:48 --> 0:21:55 The second language not their mother tongue and you can certainly talk and speaking a little bit slower might be 284 0:21:55 --> 0:22:01 Good for people from germany and ij and arctina and other places 285 0:22:01 --> 0:22:04 But just slightly slow because I don't want to sort of kill your 286 0:22:05 --> 0:22:07 Suppress your passion in any way 287 0:22:09 --> 0:22:11 Yeah, so um 288 0:22:11 --> 0:22:15 Where did the money come from if you needed? Well, you needed some money I suppose to get them 289 0:22:15 --> 0:22:18 How much does it cost to print 300 000 newspapers? 290 0:22:19 --> 0:22:24 Oh, well 300 000. I can't I can't remember now but 20 000 was 291 0:22:24 --> 0:22:26 I think it was 1200 pounds 292 0:22:27 --> 0:22:28 I think it was 293 0:22:28 --> 0:22:34 Something something like that, um, I had like a couple I had a couple of hundred pounds of the bag we'd raised 294 0:22:34 --> 0:22:37 Half of that on donations and then on the very last day 295 0:22:37 --> 0:22:41 And a wonderful sponsor from all the way up in scotland 296 0:22:41 --> 0:22:47 Uh came in to uh buy an advert basically. I mean I was I was offering all all kinds of you know 297 0:22:48 --> 0:22:52 Adverts in the first one people have obviously kicked at themselves now could have had an advert for like 10 quid or whatever 298 0:22:53 --> 0:22:55 But just made it 299 0:22:55 --> 0:22:58 It was just sheer force of will a bit a bit of luck but that first one before 300 0:22:59 --> 0:23:01 You know, we actually had proper organized distribution 301 0:23:01 --> 0:23:07 I'd been working for royal mail in 2018 and and when the lockdown one, sorry when the lockdown came in 2020 302 0:23:07 --> 0:23:14 I was working for royal mail driving around around and which is another reason why you you could go anywhere you wanted there was no police 303 0:23:14 --> 0:23:18 Blockade or anything. It was it was it was absolutely glorious glorious time to drive 304 0:23:18 --> 0:23:21 I drove through all the way around central london with no cars in it whatsoever 305 0:23:22 --> 0:23:26 On there may 29 2020 honestly, what an experience 306 0:23:26 --> 0:23:28 um 307 0:23:28 --> 0:23:34 So sorry, i've lost i've lost the trait of thought again. Uh, oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah, the first distribution the first the first issue 308 0:23:35 --> 0:23:36 and 309 0:23:36 --> 0:23:40 somebody volunteered we put you know call out on facebook or what have you and 310 0:23:40 --> 0:23:43 Uh a local guy from press which uh called ross 311 0:23:44 --> 0:23:50 Had a van and volunteered to have them shipped to his his place in in cheetah mill in manchester 312 0:23:50 --> 0:23:52 And then drive around was basically doing a relay 313 0:23:53 --> 0:23:59 And so passing passing papers onto somebody passing papers was somebody else took about four days for the for the for the for the 314 0:24:00 --> 0:24:05 actual papers to start getting anywhere because people just spent hours and hours chatting to people and 315 0:24:06 --> 0:24:10 Yeah, it truly was one of the things we wanted to do was obviously get out information to information 316 0:24:10 --> 0:24:12 but the other thing was to bring people together 317 0:24:13 --> 0:24:16 and connect local people up because obviously 318 0:24:16 --> 0:24:19 You'd have to meet up with other activists in the area 319 0:24:19 --> 0:24:24 So we'd be able to connect people who wanted to work together and you know, that just helps form those friendships 320 0:24:25 --> 0:24:28 it helps form those those bonds and that and that network and and it's 321 0:24:30 --> 0:24:36 I think it's probably more vital than than than we realize um, because no matter how prepped you are no matter how 322 0:24:36 --> 0:24:38 You know, whatever you're getting ready, whatever, you know 323 0:24:40 --> 0:24:42 We can't survive on our own 324 0:24:42 --> 0:24:47 Um, we can survive our own anyway, you know, maybe the system stays there and all the rest of it 325 0:24:47 --> 0:24:49 But we absolutely need to work together 326 0:24:49 --> 0:24:52 And doing that local obviously across the world on the internet gray 327 0:24:52 --> 0:24:57 We can always find like minds, but we need to find like minds in local areas. Um, you know, a free truth paper 328 0:24:59 --> 0:25:04 How many people were involved in choosing the articles which would appear in the newspaper? 329 0:25:05 --> 0:25:06 well 330 0:25:06 --> 0:25:08 You good 331 0:25:08 --> 0:25:13 Yes, so you had the vision and then you do and you still decide all the things that appear 332 0:25:14 --> 0:25:17 No, we have we have legal now because obviously 333 0:25:17 --> 0:25:22 Um, you know, we actually have people working for us who do work in the mainstream media as well 334 0:25:23 --> 0:25:30 And obviously, you know, there's some ex-mainstream media journalists wonderful. Jackie Devois bringing us all the mid dazzle and murders 335 0:25:30 --> 0:25:33 Yes, all the personal stories the heartbreaks 336 0:25:33 --> 0:25:34 um 337 0:25:34 --> 0:25:40 Which you know, it's just not being covered by how can how can you not be covered here on the main hospital is killing 338 0:25:40 --> 0:25:42 thousands of people 339 0:25:42 --> 0:25:47 This is stuff you talk about all the time obviously, but in terms of me, it's just crazy how 340 0:25:47 --> 0:25:51 You know, do you think you could do you think you could um, um 341 0:25:52 --> 0:25:58 So the u.s is a very important country. Obviously, um, do you think you could set up this in america in all this in 342 0:25:59 --> 0:26:01 across america 343 0:26:01 --> 0:26:09 No, but i'd certainly help advise anybody or not anybody but the the right the right awake people with the right with the right attitude and motivation 344 0:26:09 --> 0:26:10 All the rest of it 345 0:26:10 --> 0:26:14 And i certainly help advise them for as much as as much as I possibly could 346 0:26:14 --> 0:26:19 And in terms of the irish light and in terms of the light australia, we're not sister publications necessarily 347 0:26:20 --> 0:26:22 And we're not connected any other than that 348 0:26:22 --> 0:26:28 They use the name the light they copy our style the copy our you know, and all the rest and use our articles 349 0:26:28 --> 0:26:33 Which is you know, obviously it's creative commons across the internet, you know for truthers, uh, you'd hope 350 0:26:34 --> 0:26:38 We've not been we've not been we've not always been able to contact some of the writers in the past 351 0:26:39 --> 0:26:40 and 352 0:26:40 --> 0:26:45 But no no no truth writers ever complained about being featured in the white paper 353 0:26:46 --> 0:26:50 Which is a good thing because there's nothing to sue either. That's that's the beauty of it. It's not an incorporated 354 0:26:51 --> 0:26:56 You know, there's no limited company. There's no there's no liabilities either. There's no debt. There's no nothing. You know what I mean? 355 0:26:56 --> 0:27:02 Oh, yeah, so could they sue you personally say again, could they sue you personally 356 0:27:02 --> 0:27:08 Uh, yeah, anybody can sue anybody can't they sure but they won't succeed because it's not that 357 0:27:08 --> 0:27:10 easy to win a libel case 358 0:27:11 --> 0:27:13 It's really hard very difficult 359 0:27:14 --> 0:27:17 Wikipedia and bbc haven't been haven't been taken to court yet 360 0:27:17 --> 0:27:21 Uh, but we still we'll carry on collecting evidence as people basically say no 361 0:27:21 --> 0:27:26 We're not booking you or you can't use our event hall or whatever it is, you know restraint of trade 362 0:27:26 --> 0:27:31 And we've actually got proof of restraint of trade. Yeah, so every time that happens, um, you know 363 0:27:31 --> 0:27:36 It's just been building a case like if it ever comes to that like I say, you know, they own the courts 364 0:27:36 --> 0:27:39 They own they own all the system. We simply have to 365 0:27:39 --> 0:27:41 live right ourselves live responsibly 366 0:27:42 --> 0:27:46 Um, and you know, basically create the world that you want to see that that old 367 0:27:46 --> 0:27:53 Shade so there may be people on the call who might be interested, uh in the u.s in forming a 368 0:27:53 --> 0:27:57 You know a us arm. I think it would be very important. But the question is 369 0:27:58 --> 0:28:04 I you know things aren't quite as I thought they were in america and I wonder whether you know, they might intimidate people 370 0:28:05 --> 0:28:07 uh by 371 0:28:07 --> 0:28:09 You know threatening to federally indict them for causing 372 0:28:10 --> 0:28:11 I don't know 373 0:28:12 --> 0:28:19 Services or whatever and um, what do you think about that david david collin or or susan downs or anybody else who wants to answer? 374 0:28:21 --> 0:28:23 I think we're all whacked out 375 0:28:24 --> 0:28:25 I'm 376 0:28:25 --> 0:28:30 I think the united states is on the down slope. The only question is will we go back up the upslope? 377 0:28:31 --> 0:28:33 Yeah 378 0:28:33 --> 0:28:40 Yeah, um the homeland security came out with a memo about three years ago anybody that makes the government look bad 379 0:28:41 --> 0:28:43 Is that hard to do is a domestic terrorist? 380 0:28:44 --> 0:28:48 They also have concentration camps and I saw the federal request 381 0:28:49 --> 0:28:53 To for federal employees to round people up. This is all for health reasons 382 0:28:53 --> 0:28:56 And also for health for people to man the camps 383 0:28:57 --> 0:29:03 Um there any you know, what happens to physicians to speak out? I've had friends arrested at school board meetings 384 0:29:04 --> 0:29:07 Anybody that makes the government look bad as a domestic terrorist 385 0:29:07 --> 0:29:09 Wow 386 0:29:09 --> 0:29:11 So we're quite a lot freer in them 387 0:29:12 --> 0:29:14 in the uk then 388 0:29:14 --> 0:29:21 That's amazing isn't it? So one of my friends. Oh, I I don't think so. I don't think so steven uk looks worse to me 389 0:29:21 --> 0:29:26 I think uk's uk's got a uh, much much more serious freedom of speech problem 390 0:29:26 --> 0:29:33 Well, at least we can form a newspaper here david and not get arrested because the living proof you're sure you're sure about that 391 0:29:33 --> 0:29:35 Darren is here darren's still here 392 0:29:36 --> 0:29:42 I know well you said it's hard to win a libel case, but it's easy to destroy a person without ever winning a case 393 0:29:43 --> 0:29:46 Yeah, absolutely. I mean but the problem for them is as 394 0:29:47 --> 0:29:48 Steven pointed out before 395 0:29:48 --> 0:29:55 Um, I don't care what they say about me the more they protest the more smirks slips smears and slurs 396 0:29:55 --> 0:30:00 Um, you know all the rest of it. It just it just keeps bringing bringing bringing attention to the light 397 0:30:00 --> 0:30:03 Who is this guy? Why is he so bad? 398 0:30:04 --> 0:30:06 You know 399 0:30:15 --> 0:30:17 So, um 400 0:30:18 --> 0:30:20 Yes, so I was thinking that um 401 0:30:20 --> 0:30:23 So I know this country pretty well. I think you don't do darren 402 0:30:24 --> 0:30:30 There is no chance that they will arrest you because it will come back to haunt them if they do that 403 0:30:30 --> 0:30:34 And I think things are slight rather different in america because 404 0:30:35 --> 0:30:39 People are very passive there to my great surprise 405 0:30:39 --> 0:30:45 So, um, so and they're terrified of the federal government, uh turning against them indicting them, you know 406 0:30:45 --> 0:30:49 And and it's just vicious in america. That's my impression and people are terrified 407 0:30:50 --> 0:30:54 And with reason because look what they did to uh, uh juno song 408 0:30:54 --> 0:30:59 um, well, it wasn't just america it was sweden the uk and australia as well, but um 409 0:31:00 --> 0:31:05 and and now look what germany's doing to rhino fulmic you couldn't make it up this and 410 0:31:06 --> 0:31:07 so 411 0:31:07 --> 0:31:12 I just think so david thinks that we're not free in freer in the uk 412 0:31:12 --> 0:31:19 But I think we are because I know that the british government will never go after darren of the light news 413 0:31:20 --> 0:31:26 Yeah, but the you know, they can put child pornography on your computer or on your phone 414 0:31:26 --> 0:31:29 You know what I mean if they really want to take you down and really see you as a threat 415 0:31:29 --> 0:31:35 Or they could just come assassinate you in the middle of the night. Yeah, that's what they do everywhere 416 0:31:35 --> 0:31:38 Yeah, britain is no different to america is no different to australia 417 0:31:38 --> 0:31:43 And slightly different to russia, but you know, probably a little bit warmer. I don't know 418 0:31:44 --> 0:31:45 Look 419 0:31:45 --> 0:31:49 There's a lot of fear. There seems to be a lot of fear about um, let's not do things 420 0:31:50 --> 0:31:54 Um because the government might come after us, of course the government could have come after you 421 0:31:54 --> 0:31:58 You're gonna stand up or not. You know what I mean? You gotta stand up. I you know 422 0:31:59 --> 0:32:05 You asked me earlier whether whether I don't know whether whether people were surprised how was I able to get it together so quickly 423 0:32:06 --> 0:32:08 And all the rest of it and what you know wasn't worried about 424 0:32:08 --> 0:32:14 You know being being arrested and all the rest of it. Well back in 2013. I said I first woke up to the whole agenda 425 0:32:15 --> 0:32:18 And at the end of that year, I wrote a quite now famous song called 426 0:32:19 --> 0:32:22 We are the 99 percent which goes you can stick your new world order 427 0:32:22 --> 0:32:26 Up your arse and your poison vaccines and all of the other things 428 0:32:27 --> 0:32:31 And there'll be blue skies when the chemtrails are all gone the whole the whole agenda right there 429 0:32:31 --> 0:32:35 and it's been sung all over the world all along on protests and that 430 0:32:36 --> 0:32:41 Song was written to inspire people when they when they discovered the truth to not be afraid 431 0:32:42 --> 0:32:45 And not to not speak out to stand up and tell them this isn't happening 432 0:32:46 --> 0:32:50 You know in in a gentle north northern england kind of way 433 0:32:50 --> 0:32:53 And and that's the attitude that I have 434 0:32:54 --> 0:33:00 Being you know, it's a genuine heartfelt song, which is you know, um, probably what what what really makes it but obviously like I say 435 0:33:01 --> 0:33:06 And nobody should be afraid of the consequences if you're going to have a tax rebellion 436 0:33:06 --> 0:33:10 They're going to try and come after you make you pay your taxes. So, you know, I mean you you you 437 0:33:11 --> 0:33:12 uh 438 0:33:12 --> 0:33:17 Adjust accordingly shall we say in the soviet in soviet Russia or in china shall we say now, you know in communist china 439 0:33:17 --> 0:33:23 They don't protest they don't petition the government that we want a fairer deal. They just work around it 440 0:33:23 --> 0:33:26 Same in soviet. It was black market a gray market 441 0:33:26 --> 0:33:30 Yeah, that's that that's what we have. That's what we you know, there's now there's no black market information 442 0:33:31 --> 0:33:38 or gray market information and i'm more than happy to um, you know fill that gap if you like, um, 443 0:33:38 --> 0:33:41 and and provide people with a 444 0:33:41 --> 0:33:44 I mean really it's a collation, you know 445 0:33:44 --> 0:33:48 At the end of the day my job's not that hard because I don't have to write all the paper 446 0:33:48 --> 0:33:53 I think I wrote half maybe half of them three or four of them. I was like i'm gonna fill a paper every month 447 0:33:53 --> 0:33:55 But you know, that's amazing 448 0:33:55 --> 0:33:59 Once the first one is out everybody starts writing and i'll reiterate what I said earlier, by the way 449 0:33:59 --> 0:34:00 It's by the people for the people 450 0:34:00 --> 0:34:04 So if you want to see something in the light paper, um send it 451 0:34:04 --> 0:34:10 Email it to us the lightpaper.proto on mail.com. Yeah, there'll be plenty of people who might want to get something 452 0:34:10 --> 0:34:13 Published with you and some of them are very able. Um 453 0:34:14 --> 0:34:19 So, um, and uh, david is a professor of chemistry. I won't say where but um, 454 0:34:20 --> 0:34:22 So, uh, he knows about chemistry and uh, susan 455 0:34:23 --> 0:34:29 Knows a lot of people around the world and she's a filmmaker and um, there are many others. Um, 456 0:34:29 --> 0:34:34 But I see this one. So jeremy's got a question together. Sorry. I didn't notice jeremy, but 457 0:34:35 --> 0:34:38 I thought charles has disappeared. He's probably having a sleep. So 458 0:34:39 --> 0:34:41 Go ahead 459 0:34:41 --> 0:34:42 Yeah 460 0:34:42 --> 0:34:45 My wife, uh doesn't notice me either but uh 461 0:34:47 --> 0:34:49 Anyway jay 462 0:34:49 --> 0:34:54 Darren I I wanted to let you know and thank you for the work you're doing where you are 463 0:34:55 --> 0:34:57 That we have a darren over here in canada 464 0:34:58 --> 0:35:00 His name is shawn jason 465 0:35:01 --> 0:35:05 S-h-a-w-n and he began. I don't know if you know him 466 0:35:05 --> 0:35:07 Uh because he's 467 0:35:08 --> 0:35:09 Pardon me 468 0:35:09 --> 0:35:11 We know the truth is 469 0:35:13 --> 0:35:15 So you're familiar with this publication 470 0:35:16 --> 0:35:22 Okay, so they just a few stats on that for other for the others there. This is um 471 0:35:23 --> 0:35:28 Their march 2021 edition. That was their fourth edition. So i'm assuming they began in 472 0:35:29 --> 0:35:31 december of 2020 473 0:35:31 --> 0:35:33 um 474 0:35:33 --> 0:35:37 They produce uh for ten cents a copy it's free 475 0:35:37 --> 0:35:40 If you've have you communicated with shawn 476 0:35:41 --> 0:35:44 We've been in touch since since they started 477 0:35:45 --> 0:35:50 Um, you know, we've we've tried to do more cross collaborations, but it's it's you know, you're 478 0:35:51 --> 0:35:56 On paper with a very small team, you know, it's it takes a fair bit of time. But yeah, they're absolutely brilliant 479 0:35:56 --> 0:36:01 Yeah, I just just to round that off before I forget. There's a paper in germany. There's a paper in holland 480 0:36:01 --> 0:36:05 And they're all you know exactly exactly similar to the to the light paper 481 0:36:07 --> 0:36:12 Well, i'm glad to hear that because collaboration amongst persons such as yourself 482 0:36:13 --> 0:36:16 is important and it's going to continue to be important in the 483 0:36:18 --> 0:36:20 In the coming days 484 0:36:21 --> 0:36:29 This this happens to be 12 pages, I know, you know that but it's 12 pages in every production and um 485 0:36:29 --> 0:36:34 They've got some great people writing in it. I'm sure that you have yours and i'm going to check out your 486 0:36:35 --> 0:36:37 publication and um 487 0:36:38 --> 0:36:41 Again glad to hear that you collaborated with shawn 488 0:36:42 --> 0:36:44 it's important that these uh 489 0:36:44 --> 0:36:51 The that these tabloids get out as much as possible. He's just reached up to two million copies since the beginning 490 0:36:52 --> 0:36:57 So he's probably got a ways to go to catch up to you, but um, it's significant here 491 0:36:57 --> 0:36:59 So thanks very much for your presentation 492 0:37:00 --> 0:37:05 Um my pleasure thank you so much, um, you know, it's 493 0:37:05 --> 0:37:11 You know, you were talking about america before I think the difference of america is it states is separate states 494 0:37:11 --> 0:37:16 So you'd have to do one in new york or you want in los angeles or one in detroit or wherever? 495 0:37:16 --> 0:37:23 You know, I mean you'd have to be kind of separate there separate organizations because local is the key to it. Um, yeah, I think we've 496 0:37:23 --> 0:37:28 Our distribution managers told me just over eight. So eight million copies 497 0:37:29 --> 0:37:31 I think we have distributed 498 0:37:31 --> 0:37:35 uh across the uk we send them out all over all over the world as well, but um 499 0:37:36 --> 0:37:41 And yeah, it's great. It's great to be a part of what you know, the resistance, you know 500 0:37:41 --> 0:37:45 We call us conspiracy theorists. We're not conspiracy. We're just with the resistance to your evil plans 501 0:37:46 --> 0:37:49 You know, I like calling things out, you know, whether whether it's in a song 502 0:37:49 --> 0:37:54 Uh, whether it's an interview whether it's a newspaper for your front page of a newspaper 503 0:37:54 --> 0:37:56 The next one i'm working on right now 504 0:37:56 --> 0:37:58 Uh is the illusion of freedom 505 0:37:58 --> 0:38:03 Yeah, um, you know, and it will lay out lay out to people obviously, you know 506 0:38:03 --> 0:38:06 You were talking again you talk about elections and what have you earlier? 507 0:38:07 --> 0:38:11 It's the illusion of freedoms. It's part of the part of the game to give people the illusion of freedom 508 0:38:11 --> 0:38:15 It's tyranny is so much more effective when it's disguised as democracy 509 0:38:16 --> 0:38:20 Yeah, because if you're just totalitarian you just go around with jack boots and start, you know openly 510 0:38:20 --> 0:38:24 You know coming to kill you drag people off and all the rest. Yeah, people people have nothing to lose 511 0:38:24 --> 0:38:25 So they'll fight back 512 0:38:25 --> 0:38:30 But if you believe that they still got some kind of stake and some kind of same we get to choose the color of the rosette 513 0:38:31 --> 0:38:35 On the on the manager of the of the slave farm every five years then hooray for us 514 0:38:35 --> 0:38:41 We've got a little confused between pepsi and coke between poison a and poison b, you know go go us 515 0:38:41 --> 0:38:46 We live in a free country. Don't we give people the illusion of freedom and they will serve that system for so darren 516 0:38:46 --> 0:38:49 Can I ask you what have you had any opinion pieces on? 517 0:38:49 --> 0:38:54 On kia starman's first couple of months in power or lack of power 518 0:38:56 --> 0:38:59 So what does the light newspaper officially think of kia starman? 519 0:39:02 --> 0:39:06 Well, he's I mean I I knew him as a trilateral commission member 520 0:39:07 --> 0:39:12 And this is before he even became leader of the labor party. I knew he was you know, obviously a labor party big week 521 0:39:12 --> 0:39:15 But trilateral commission member so always destined for pm 522 0:39:16 --> 0:39:18 and and obviously the guy that 523 0:39:18 --> 0:39:26 Famously refused on because there's lack of evidence whilst head of the cps the crown prosecution service here in london in london in england 524 0:39:26 --> 0:39:29 And to refuse to prosecute jimmy savill 525 0:39:29 --> 0:39:33 And britain's best best loved best loved and most prolific 526 0:39:34 --> 0:39:36 child rapist 527 0:39:36 --> 0:39:39 And and this is the guy now running our country 528 0:39:39 --> 0:39:42 So, um, well the first thing we we we did here 529 0:39:43 --> 0:39:47 Um, I mean so that gets mentioned all the time trilateral commission member starmer or wef 530 0:39:48 --> 0:39:49 acolyte 531 0:39:49 --> 0:39:50 Etc, etc 532 0:39:50 --> 0:39:58 And even emily mateless who's a well-known bbc mi6 agent. She's like, you know, she she she recruited mariana spring, by the way, um 533 0:39:59 --> 0:40:02 Even even she could ward when she she asked the question 534 0:40:02 --> 0:40:08 I didn't realize it was her actually before when she asked the star with that question said so, you know davos or westminster 535 0:40:08 --> 0:40:10 And he went oh 536 0:40:11 --> 0:40:17 What you can't say that how can be so, you know, she's like wasn't that curtsy walk, uh darren 537 0:40:18 --> 0:40:22 No, no, i'm pretty sure it was i'm pretty sure I watched it the other day 538 0:40:23 --> 0:40:25 I'm pretty sure anyway, okay 539 0:40:26 --> 0:40:30 He's brass to actually come out and say yeah, I don't care about westminster 540 0:40:30 --> 0:40:34 It's true. They can say what they want. They can do what they want on issue 541 0:40:34 --> 0:40:36 come from cover of issue 11 542 0:40:36 --> 0:40:42 Um where we're reporting 1100 deaths and a million vaccine injuries according to the yellow card 543 0:40:42 --> 0:40:48 Reporting scheme obviously trying to warn people away from the from the bloody, you know from the genetic weapons that were being done out 544 0:40:49 --> 0:40:55 And there's a picture of you know, you know all the big weeks boris and and ursula vandal aeon and the queen 545 0:40:56 --> 0:40:58 All cozying up. This is in the middle of mask lockdown 546 0:40:58 --> 0:41:04 You know fever all the rest of it. They're all they're all cozied up having a nice little party together clearly unconcerned about any 547 0:41:05 --> 0:41:09 So-called potential infectious to virus. This is the queen and the prime minister. I said they don't care 548 0:41:09 --> 0:41:15 They're like messed up. You know, so we put that picture on the on the front cover to to to to show people 549 0:41:15 --> 0:41:17 You know at the end of the day 550 0:41:17 --> 0:41:20 We all need to we all need to see glitches in the matrix. What won't you? 551 0:41:21 --> 0:41:25 You know, what what what what's yours? Everybody is different. Everybody's is differently 552 0:41:25 --> 0:41:30 You know sometimes from government wrongs or or corporate wrongs or you know, sometimes it's just a bolt from the blue 553 0:41:30 --> 0:41:33 It can be many many different things but no two stories are the same 554 0:41:34 --> 0:41:41 So the more we can put out there in as many ways as you can so, you know videos podcasts and newspapers 555 0:41:42 --> 0:41:46 Columns, you know blogs and but go on the streets, you know 556 0:41:46 --> 0:41:52 People do outreach on the streets in their towns that you know, mainly to show the the pictures photos of the vaccine injured or the vaccine dead 557 0:41:53 --> 0:42:00 You know, I mean big big memorial or things like that hang out papers and what have you actually speak to people in town? 558 0:42:00 --> 0:42:03 Because we're trying to reach people on social media. You know, I mean again the truth movement 559 0:42:04 --> 0:42:06 And falls prey to this all the time 560 0:42:06 --> 0:42:12 I think you can actually you know wake up the world reach people on social media when it's completely compartmentalized 561 0:42:12 --> 0:42:14 It doesn't matter. You're a truth or you could be a football fan 562 0:42:14 --> 0:42:20 You could be a whatever sport physically football team it's going to give you all the football things around just everybody's into football 563 0:42:20 --> 0:42:24 I'm not into football. Yeah, guess how much football I get on my feed. No, not one 564 0:42:24 --> 0:42:29 I'm sure people I know like football and what have you but they're not going to post on it 565 0:42:29 --> 0:42:31 Anyway, that's how social media compartmentalizes 566 0:42:31 --> 0:42:34 And we're growing but we're not there yet 567 0:42:34 --> 0:42:38 And you must realize that getting out into the real world 568 0:42:38 --> 0:42:41 And if you want to you know, actually outreach 569 0:42:41 --> 0:42:46 And you know take you know in town centers on roundabouts rebels on roundabouts has been going for three or four years 570 0:42:47 --> 0:42:50 And as well, you know what I mean the yellow boards 571 0:42:50 --> 0:42:53 And all that stuff people stuff but people are making 572 0:42:53 --> 0:42:58 Documentations people should people should be using their own talents bring your talents to the table and let them flourish 573 0:42:59 --> 0:43:04 And you know, there's no there's no rules. There's no restrictions. It's like the west said we're building a whole new society 574 0:43:05 --> 0:43:07 So we need you know new health services 575 0:43:07 --> 0:43:13 We need new we need new education services education support because all parents should just be teaching their children as they go along with it 576 0:43:13 --> 0:43:19 With them in their lives like how it used to be before the rockefeller took over the education system and indoctrinated people to want to be saved 577 0:43:20 --> 0:43:25 So darren, what does the land newspaper think of the the the trans agenda in schools? 578 0:43:26 --> 0:43:28 Things are being taught in schools 579 0:43:28 --> 0:43:30 unknown to the parents 580 0:43:31 --> 0:43:38 Are you aware of that? And um, I just wonder whether the um light newspaper has any opinion on it or 581 0:43:39 --> 0:43:41 What's the majority? Yeah among your writers? 582 0:43:43 --> 0:43:48 Well, yeah, I mean obviously, uh, it's quite clear we're before god and nature 583 0:43:48 --> 0:43:53 Um, and you can call yourself anything you want, but please don't please don't chop your genitals off 584 0:43:54 --> 0:43:58 Um, please don't try to have a baby carry a baby if you're a man 585 0:43:59 --> 0:44:05 And I mean the world obviously has gone now the idea is to destabilize all of society or all echelons of it 586 0:44:05 --> 0:44:09 So i'm not going to particularly speak out about this agenda or that agenda or what have you because it's all nonsense 587 0:44:09 --> 0:44:14 All of it all of it is leading people away from who they actually are where they come from 588 0:44:14 --> 0:44:20 Yeah, the actual natural order of things that work and got us to this point whether you believe we've been here for 6000 years 589 0:44:20 --> 0:44:23 12 000 years 100 000 years 100 million years 590 0:44:24 --> 0:44:28 Um, you know, we survived to this point and we know we're not immortal 591 0:44:28 --> 0:44:33 So, you know what I mean? We must have done something right along the way, which we've obviously lost our way up 592 0:44:33 --> 0:44:35 um, you know 593 0:44:36 --> 0:44:38 Nobody should stop researching but 594 0:44:42 --> 0:44:45 In the context of the trans stuff that's being taught in british schools 595 0:44:46 --> 0:44:50 Uh, are you aware I don't know whether it's true, but I was told the other day that uh 596 0:44:51 --> 0:44:58 Keir starmer has a trans child, but so does um evette cooper and so does uh, uh, um 597 0:44:58 --> 0:45:00 Angela reyna, but if you careful 598 0:45:00 --> 0:45:02 Uh, i'm told I don't know whether this is true 599 0:45:03 --> 0:45:05 Have you heard such things? 600 0:45:06 --> 0:45:13 I don't know, but I know they all belong to an evil satanic type. Well, we can say to what you know an evil 601 0:45:13 --> 0:45:16 Order a secret order a mad cult 602 0:45:17 --> 0:45:24 And started by adam vishout and um, and um, mayor rosh child and jacob frank in 1776 or in the 19th century 603 0:45:24 --> 0:45:30 Anyway, um, and it's still going today. It's infiltrating everything else the church the free masons 604 0:45:31 --> 0:45:35 You name it. It it runs every order every secret order 605 0:45:35 --> 0:45:37 We're all part of this religion 606 0:45:37 --> 0:45:41 Um that nobody knows the ring and they do ceremonies all the time 607 0:45:41 --> 0:45:45 There's a great big uh obelisk in nearly every town and city certainly in britain 608 0:45:45 --> 0:45:52 I presume it's very similar across across the united states. Obviously you've got the washington washington monument there 666 feet high 609 0:45:53 --> 0:45:58 Uh, you know the eye of horus on your dollar bill the new order of the ages all the rest is right there 610 0:45:58 --> 0:46:03 It's right there, but people just are accepted because of the way that they're indoctrinated from school 611 0:46:03 --> 0:46:06 Yeah, don't question it i'm going to teach you about all this other stuff 612 0:46:06 --> 0:46:10 But not how money works or how to how to you know, simply set you know 613 0:46:10 --> 0:46:13 Save more than you earn to build wealth for the next 10 to 20 years 614 0:46:13 --> 0:46:18 So you're not struggling for the whole of your life how not to be poor, you know, just basic just basic stuff that takes 615 0:46:18 --> 0:46:20 you know 616 0:46:21 --> 0:46:22 Anyway, um 617 0:46:22 --> 0:46:27 so my answer to uh, you know the transgender agenda in schools and you know the 618 0:46:28 --> 0:46:31 Be honest with the education is there to dumb down children. We teach our children 619 0:46:32 --> 0:46:38 In half a day what it seems to take six months for school to do that. They they learn so so quickly 620 0:46:38 --> 0:46:43 It's not true and just get get out of the way almost, you know, they they say encourage guided learning 621 0:46:44 --> 0:46:49 And so, you know, whatever they're on whatever they're doing. It's encouraging and teaching around that 622 0:46:51 --> 0:46:53 You know 623 0:46:53 --> 0:46:54 So, um, so yeah 624 0:46:54 --> 0:46:59 So the the answer is don't don't send your kids to caesar if you don't want to come back roman's, you know 625 0:46:59 --> 0:47:04 Take your kids take children out of school. Don't don't don't let them die. I'm sorry 626 0:47:04 --> 0:47:07 I see. Um, yeah, we had a we had a 627 0:47:08 --> 0:47:11 So, uh darren we had a nurse from california 628 0:47:11 --> 0:47:14 gail mccrae, um who spoke to us, um 629 0:47:14 --> 0:47:17 A week ago, I think she was just incredible as she was 630 0:47:18 --> 0:47:20 So somebody asked her 631 0:47:20 --> 0:47:25 It may have been me. Uh, why she thought she was different and she said that she was 632 0:47:26 --> 0:47:28 Homeschooled for the entire time 633 0:47:28 --> 0:47:31 Uh, the time that she should have been at school, you know, she was homeschooled 634 0:47:32 --> 0:47:39 but also she thought she was different because she'd worked she'd worked internationally and um, you know in different countries, um, 635 0:47:39 --> 0:47:42 And so that had helped her to identify patterns 636 0:47:43 --> 0:47:47 I seem to remember saying something like that. So that makes sense to me. But um 637 0:47:48 --> 0:47:50 Anyway, we've got mark 638 0:47:50 --> 0:47:53 Who is an activist in east anglia? I think 639 0:47:54 --> 0:47:56 has become 640 0:47:56 --> 0:47:58 our very 641 0:47:58 --> 0:48:00 a home-bred activist 642 0:48:00 --> 0:48:05 Well, thank you. Thank thank you stephen by the way, I actually am going to be um 643 0:48:06 --> 0:48:08 uh participating tomorrow 644 0:48:09 --> 0:48:10 by 645 0:48:10 --> 0:48:12 meeting with the cqc 646 0:48:13 --> 0:48:18 On behalf of the patient participation group. That will be an interesting meeting tomorrow 647 0:48:19 --> 0:48:21 um 648 0:48:21 --> 0:48:25 Darren don't uh, don't expect any wonderful mark. Don't expect any massive 649 0:48:26 --> 0:48:29 Don't don't expect any massive brain from the cqc 650 0:48:31 --> 0:48:33 No, I shall I shall remember 651 0:48:36 --> 0:48:40 Lovely uh darren to hear such enthusiasm 652 0:48:42 --> 0:48:46 Now that um kiosk dharma has made a large gaffe 653 0:48:46 --> 0:48:48 um and um 654 0:48:48 --> 0:48:50 Called for the return of the sausages 655 0:48:51 --> 0:48:53 from gaza rather than hostages 656 0:48:54 --> 0:49:00 And everyone's taking the piss out of him and in fact even people have come up with the phrase 657 0:49:01 --> 0:49:03 Um that they have got a new minister 658 0:49:04 --> 0:49:07 uh to make sure that all gaffes are 659 0:49:08 --> 0:49:13 Suppressed and the name of that new minister is frank furter 660 0:49:14 --> 0:49:16 um, do you think 661 0:49:17 --> 0:49:21 Do you think that this prime minister who is now divorced? 662 0:49:21 --> 0:49:23 Prinness prime minister we've ever had 663 0:49:24 --> 0:49:29 Um is actually uh going to find himself out pretty soon 664 0:49:29 --> 0:49:35 Because I mean a gaffe like that nobody is going to be talking about the policies that he was trying to get across 665 0:49:36 --> 0:49:39 Everyone's going to be taking the piss out of him for the next couple of weeks 666 0:49:40 --> 0:49:42 Do you really think it was a gaffe? 667 0:49:42 --> 0:49:49 Are the gaffes on the play of the world stage or is this to distract us from the global pattern for the future that the un? 668 0:49:49 --> 0:49:55 159 countries have just signed with the un it's a pact. It's not law. It's not binding 669 0:49:55 --> 0:49:58 You know at the end of the day, it's pretty hard to get stuff that's binding 670 0:49:59 --> 0:50:01 um, but you know 671 0:50:01 --> 0:50:05 It was like with the with the with the pandemic treaty, which again has been thwarted 672 0:50:05 --> 0:50:10 But that's why they've come back with this. Um, yeah, and the british government, you know the conservators at the time all saying 673 0:50:11 --> 0:50:12 um 674 0:50:12 --> 0:50:13 um 675 0:50:13 --> 0:50:16 You know, well, you know, it's not binding, you know 676 0:50:16 --> 0:50:21 We'll never we'll you know, we'll never accept we'll never see no national sovereignty and all the rest of it 677 0:50:21 --> 0:50:26 We can damn well tell if you went to declare a pandemic and they say everybody's got locked down the british government are going to lock everybody down 678 0:50:26 --> 0:50:31 Whether whether it's you know, whether it's whether they've got um, whether they're forced to or not 679 0:50:31 --> 0:50:35 So it's good advice from the from the world health organization. It's just uh, it's always a funny 680 0:50:36 --> 0:50:42 It's always a funny and with the gaffe on starma again. It's just to distract. Yeah, everybody's talking about that 681 0:50:42 --> 0:50:46 Everybody's talking about that. I got you know, I don't actually pay that much attention 682 0:50:47 --> 0:50:48 I say 683 0:50:48 --> 0:50:49 No, no, no 684 0:50:49 --> 0:50:58 I mean I only yeah, I only know that because it was pointed out to me. We don't we we defunded the bbc ages ago 685 0:50:58 --> 0:51:04 Right, so we don't have that we're not watching any of that rubbish, but it's a very good point that you put 686 0:51:04 --> 0:51:06 because of course if the un 687 0:51:07 --> 0:51:12 If no one is paying any attention which uh, very few journalists seem to be 688 0:51:12 --> 0:51:17 Then of course the public don't know about the un 689 0:51:17 --> 0:51:18 uh 690 0:51:18 --> 0:51:25 You know the un I believe it was uh, process processed my understanding is it was processed 691 0:51:25 --> 0:51:27 by silence 692 0:51:27 --> 0:51:31 Right, so no one objected therefore everybody agreed 693 0:51:33 --> 0:51:35 Yeah, it's a it's a very interesting 694 0:51:36 --> 0:51:38 Yeah, it's a very interesting case because I remember 695 0:51:39 --> 0:51:42 Um when I when I was working 696 0:51:43 --> 0:51:50 The treasury manager received an email saying if I don't hear back from you by you know, Wednesday 697 0:51:50 --> 0:51:52 I take it you have agreed right? 698 0:51:53 --> 0:51:58 So he very quickly sent them a very strong email saying there has been no agreement, right? You can't 699 0:52:00 --> 0:52:05 You can't you know, that's not a contract. All right, you can't say if I don't hear back from you 700 0:52:05 --> 0:52:10 Otherwise, um, I've bought your car if I don't hear back from you. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was interesting 701 0:52:11 --> 0:52:13 It was interesting. All right 702 0:52:14 --> 0:52:18 Darren do you think there is any merit in getting members? 703 0:52:18 --> 0:52:19 uh 704 0:52:19 --> 0:52:25 Activate more activists as it were to join their patient participation groups to actually 705 0:52:28 --> 0:52:32 Ask questions of their practice gp practice on why? 706 0:52:33 --> 0:52:34 the 707 0:52:34 --> 0:52:42 gps have not sought to get informed consent and have not actually told the patients of the risks of the 708 0:52:43 --> 0:52:45 covid vaccines 709 0:52:45 --> 0:52:50 Any glitch in the matrix any way, you know how to I see I I would know where to start with that 710 0:52:50 --> 0:52:53 I'm not in the medical profession, obviously 711 0:52:53 --> 0:52:54 um 712 0:52:54 --> 0:52:59 But if you are and you know, you know how to because the thing is you you're never going to change the method 713 0:53:00 --> 0:53:06 We don't we don't speak farmer and the whole system or anything else but it doesn't matter what you're trying to do is sow seeds 714 0:53:06 --> 0:53:11 Is show glitches in the matrix. So hang on a minute. My my number one favorite with vaccines is this 715 0:53:13 --> 0:53:20 Please name if you know, if you're not an anti-vaxxer if you're a pro-vaxxer, please name your favorite vaccine ingredient and its known health benefit 716 0:53:22 --> 0:53:26 It's the only question you actually need to say to anybody who comes vaccines 717 0:53:26 --> 0:53:28 Oh 718 0:53:29 --> 0:53:32 So beat the talking points and selling points of the marketing scheme 719 0:53:32 --> 0:53:37 Yeah, look at go go look any vaccine insert on google. Whatever if you've got one in your cupboard 720 0:53:37 --> 0:53:43 Well, go look at a vaccine insert go and look at the known ingredients and you know name the health benefits 721 0:53:45 --> 0:53:47 Brilliant thank you very much darren 722 0:53:48 --> 0:53:49 pleasure 723 0:53:49 --> 0:53:53 So darren they've got um a question from um, we've got gaza 724 0:53:54 --> 0:53:57 Gaza teriyani on the call i'm sure you know him 725 0:53:59 --> 0:54:04 Yeah, we were at uh, uh, it was that bottom loss anti-fracking camp 726 0:54:05 --> 0:54:10 And with us and that's the new road up in blackpool for a short while before I got booted off 727 0:54:11 --> 0:54:14 Um by the communists by the green communists 728 0:54:14 --> 0:54:15 um 729 0:54:15 --> 0:54:19 And yeah, and then he did a protest in london and we covered that 730 0:54:19 --> 0:54:23 Um, and then since then he's been nothing but antagonistic 731 0:54:24 --> 0:54:29 Childish and completely unhelpful towards us that I thought I just thought preface that now. What's the question? 732 0:54:31 --> 0:54:33 Oh, he did have it so um 733 0:54:34 --> 0:54:40 We used to be gaza's favorite group, I don't know whether we still are but we'll just roll with it if we're not 734 0:54:41 --> 0:54:43 gaza, uh, you had your hand up 735 0:54:45 --> 0:54:47 Or maybe he doesn't want to speak 736 0:54:47 --> 0:54:50 I actually I see his video is off as well 737 0:54:51 --> 0:54:53 We got oh, so is that can you hear me? I've got another 738 0:54:55 --> 0:54:59 Can you hear me it is yeah, it's gaza. Yes 739 0:55:01 --> 0:55:04 Oh, well that wasn't a very nice name gaza gaza is not your name 740 0:55:05 --> 0:55:07 All right. Okay. So are we ready for the question? 741 0:55:09 --> 0:55:11 Yeah, absolutely. Okay 742 0:55:11 --> 0:55:14 Uh, I think that was a bit one-sided about i'm an adult 743 0:55:14 --> 0:55:17 So i'm just been asked the question that you've just mentioned 744 0:55:17 --> 0:55:20 uh that I was fully supportive of and uh 745 0:55:21 --> 0:55:25 When you were down at presty new road and you were invited to well 746 0:55:26 --> 0:55:29 We put an invite out but tina othery didn't do 747 0:55:29 --> 0:55:32 So what i'm doing now is i'm actually taking on the people 748 0:55:33 --> 0:55:35 Uh that are now the undercovers 749 0:55:35 --> 0:55:39 Uh, next week i'll be going down to the fourth the third tranche 750 0:55:39 --> 0:55:45 Which is the third section of the under covers spires in our lives. I was being I went to the second one 751 0:55:46 --> 0:55:48 So darren the question is 752 0:55:48 --> 0:55:51 How many of the undercovers including george brown? 753 0:55:52 --> 0:55:55 Yellow belly and others, do you know? 754 0:55:55 --> 0:55:57 Oh, that's all I need to know darren 755 0:55:58 --> 0:56:03 Well, you know what you mean, which do I now suspect we're undercover or which do I actually communicate with? 756 0:56:04 --> 0:56:10 No, the ones that right just stick with what what so i've now been talked i've actually got a page called blocked by gaza 757 0:56:11 --> 0:56:15 And these are people that you're saying that i'm outing or working against 758 0:56:16 --> 0:56:22 I've actually got a page named after me. I've been a case that the chauley police are protecting these people 759 0:56:22 --> 0:56:24 I've actually been found guilty in court 760 0:56:25 --> 0:56:30 Uh, right. So this is at the highest level. This is not like messing about and i'm just asking you 761 0:56:30 --> 0:56:33 Who were the people that were on your camp that you suspected 762 0:56:34 --> 0:56:38 Because clearly tina rothery and reclaim the power threw you off the camp at nano camp now 763 0:56:38 --> 0:56:41 We put that together tina took it over as you know 764 0:56:42 --> 0:56:49 So I want to just confirm who you think so just confirm. Do you think george brown is undercover and a copper? 765 0:56:51 --> 0:56:53 Oh, um 766 0:56:54 --> 0:57:02 I don't I don't particularly I don't I don't trust any person that is not still in touch with us from bottom us 767 0:57:03 --> 0:57:08 Right, so you are you are yeah, you were you were you were just 768 0:57:09 --> 0:57:12 I don't trust any of them and you said and you hang on a minute 769 0:57:12 --> 0:57:17 Can I just say you said your camp I didn't set up the camp. I didn't I didn't start it 770 0:57:17 --> 0:57:19 I turned up like everybody else 771 0:57:19 --> 0:57:21 Uh aware how bad 772 0:57:21 --> 0:57:26 Don't split words it's simply who you were on the count with let's just stick with that who you were on the count with 773 0:57:26 --> 0:57:28 At bottom moss whoever he was 774 0:57:28 --> 0:57:33 So george brown did he give you any suspicion that he was undercover? 775 0:57:33 --> 0:57:38 I didn't suspect suspect anybody. I assumed everybody was all all all the same 776 0:57:38 --> 0:57:42 They're all singing stick your new world on the grass. I mean my my job was to go on being a musician 777 0:57:43 --> 0:57:47 And this this particular inquiry is absolutely of no use whatsoever to anybody else listening 778 0:57:47 --> 0:57:49 Um, if you actually want um, I read joe boyd 779 0:57:52 --> 0:57:55 Somebody else you fell out with on the camp now, this is what you like. This is what it's been like 780 0:57:56 --> 0:58:00 I've got to be in my bottle. It's more important than anything else. Yeah, um 781 0:58:01 --> 0:58:02 joe boyd 782 0:58:02 --> 0:58:06 Who wrote a book about it the road to kill the bill and he's already he's written a book about it 783 0:58:06 --> 0:58:09 It's great. You should buy it. Uh, people should buy it and order it. He was there 784 0:58:13 --> 0:58:15 Stop flustering 785 0:58:17 --> 0:58:20 Question about people names 786 0:58:24 --> 0:58:26 Where you got kicked off the camp 787 0:58:27 --> 0:58:34 And stops all the people doing positive work is an infiltrator as far as it's strange now that you're all flustered darren nesbitt 788 0:58:40 --> 0:58:42 You're an annoying guy but steven 789 0:58:44 --> 0:58:46 This is how they work 790 0:58:48 --> 0:58:50 This is how it works 791 0:58:54 --> 0:58:56 Okay, so 792 0:58:58 --> 0:59:01 Yeah, well nobody knows what you're talking about. Anyway, so um 793 0:59:01 --> 0:59:07 So let's have a look. Who do you think was the stupid? I don't know. I don't know. I didn't care at the time either 794 0:59:10 --> 0:59:12 Yeah, so anyway, um 795 0:59:12 --> 0:59:18 Darren you've been good enough to give you your time so we protect our guests. It's not a question of censoring gaza 796 0:59:18 --> 0:59:23 But clearly he had one thing in mind there and what he was talking about. Nobody knew 797 0:59:23 --> 0:59:25 I didn't even know what he was talking about 798 0:59:25 --> 0:59:27 You and he knew 799 0:59:27 --> 0:59:31 um, but it's not of interest to people around the world and um, 800 0:59:31 --> 0:59:37 So it's absolutely counterproductive in my opinion. So um, so it wasn't your fault obviously 801 0:59:37 --> 0:59:38 Point 802 0:59:38 --> 0:59:43 Uh, because that you know is worth it is worth probably bringing up whether his ultimate goal or point or whatever 803 0:59:43 --> 0:59:47 Is to kind of call me out as a controlled opposition agent of some kind 804 0:59:48 --> 0:59:49 um 805 0:59:49 --> 0:59:52 Uh, you know buy their fruit shall you know them? 806 0:59:52 --> 0:59:59 Um a good tree can't produce corrupt fruit and if i'm producing good fruit month after month and with everything I do people support 807 0:59:59 --> 1:00:04 And they must you know, must be on the right track must it must be half decent 808 1:00:04 --> 1:00:10 And i'm a bit a bit of a thorn in the government side not in a um in a russell brand type of way 809 1:00:11 --> 1:00:15 You know, I don't have millions of followers. I'm not you know that I mean i'm well known for what i've done 810 1:00:15 --> 1:00:18 Not for you know being a podcaster or anything else, you know what I mean? 811 1:00:18 --> 1:00:23 I'm not really interested in that. I do have a a band that I do like to communicate through through the music as well 812 1:00:23 --> 1:00:25 through the jazz band 813 1:00:25 --> 1:00:26 um 814 1:00:26 --> 1:00:30 but you know other than that it is about getting the truth out and 815 1:00:30 --> 1:00:36 Uh, you know am I controlled opposition not that I know of yeah, not that I know of geezer. Sorry, mate 816 1:00:36 --> 1:00:43 You know people I've I've met hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people. They know me personally hung out you've hung out with me 817 1:00:43 --> 1:00:47 You know, and it comes across as somebody who's very over paranoid 818 1:00:48 --> 1:00:51 you know, um, you know, everybody's everybody's control of position and 819 1:00:52 --> 1:00:59 We're always in danger and I I I you know, I don't think i'm particularly anybody, you know special or what have you 820 1:00:59 --> 1:01:04 But we're always in danger of over grand eyes in our own position of things where you know in the truth movement 821 1:01:04 --> 1:01:11 It's like, you know, I I have to get this out to people. I said we've all got limited reach. We've all got limited, you know, um 822 1:01:12 --> 1:01:16 You know networks and what have you and your thing is always the most important thing 823 1:01:17 --> 1:01:24 You know, really what it is whether it's you know, whether it's vaccine or medical whether it's you know, uh cosmology whether it's jesus whether it's 824 1:01:24 --> 1:01:25 You know 825 1:01:25 --> 1:01:28 Whatever it is whether it's the january 23rd to the climate change what have you? 826 1:01:28 --> 1:01:30 You know, I mean there's all these separate things 827 1:01:30 --> 1:01:35 And you know your your thing is obviously going to be most most most special to you. So 828 1:01:36 --> 1:01:38 Um, sure. Yeah, so I think the the so 829 1:01:39 --> 1:01:44 Darren what you're saying now, I think you're absolutely right. So human beings it seems after this last four and a half years 830 1:01:44 --> 1:01:51 I've realized have a predilection for cults and they're all running their own cults and you know on our side and 831 1:01:51 --> 1:01:56 The message is join my cult join my cult my cult not that cult 832 1:01:57 --> 1:01:59 Yeah, yeah 833 1:02:00 --> 1:02:03 To be fair together he did some brilliant work in london 834 1:02:05 --> 1:02:10 Um, listen if people just got on with their activism, which is what I try and do 835 1:02:10 --> 1:02:13 That's why I got annoyed because i'm not interested in 836 1:02:14 --> 1:02:19 That this personal what have you got suspicions then don't hang around with that person don't work with them 837 1:02:19 --> 1:02:20 Do I have anything to do with them? 838 1:02:20 --> 1:02:24 Um, and that's it but get on with your activism 839 1:02:24 --> 1:02:27 Um, I mean I personally think his his 840 1:02:28 --> 1:02:30 over-the-top harassment 841 1:02:30 --> 1:02:34 Um of them was it was it was it matt hankock? I think it was murder and murder 842 1:02:34 --> 1:02:39 I mean, you know, you could have been it could have been a smarter journalist and said how come such and such as a word 843 1:02:39 --> 1:02:43 You know out through the pacman probing questions. He's been out there for long enough 844 1:02:43 --> 1:02:49 And it's it's a little bit embarrassing but that's him. I'm not gonna say you know, everybody's everybody's different people won't like the what? 845 1:02:50 --> 1:02:55 You know the necessary things I do or the way I go about things or things I cover or things I don't cover 846 1:02:56 --> 1:03:00 We all have to accept each other as individuals. It's like you've got you've got purity 847 1:03:00 --> 1:03:06 We've got some kind of purity you you still believe in viruses. That's don't you know? Oh my god. You must be controlled 848 1:03:06 --> 1:03:10 What no, they just haven't got come across that. Yeah, and that's where they are 849 1:03:10 --> 1:03:15 Yeah, you know remember when you used to go to the pub and you really really accepted people for whoever they were 850 1:03:16 --> 1:03:17 You know what I mean? It wasn't like 851 1:03:17 --> 1:03:22 Okay, i'm gonna have a pint with you. But what's your opinion on on climate change first? 852 1:03:22 --> 1:03:27 I need to know that we align otherwise I can't drink. Yeah, that is the world and even in truth 853 1:03:28 --> 1:03:36 You know, you're like somebody you think the controller did a while then don't hang them. Don't don't them or anything else 854 1:03:36 --> 1:03:42 Um, but you know, we carry on we continue there's a natural war to be fought 855 1:03:42 --> 1:03:48 And and we really need to get our egos out of the way and our own sure, you know, what have you like I say 856 1:03:49 --> 1:03:53 I'm well known which is really nice. People know who I am. I can go to most street clubs and oh, you know great 857 1:03:53 --> 1:03:58 But that's not because i'm some kind of it's because of what i've done. So just get on with get on with doing the thing 858 1:03:59 --> 1:04:02 So we've got another question of pair hallie. Um 859 1:04:02 --> 1:04:05 Pair are you in sweden or denmark or? 860 1:04:06 --> 1:04:08 nor 861 1:04:08 --> 1:04:10 Yes last norway 862 1:04:10 --> 1:04:12 And 863 1:04:12 --> 1:04:19 Actually, I have bought the the light from from darren so so 864 1:04:21 --> 1:04:23 Thanks for it. Um 865 1:04:23 --> 1:04:29 I've been looking into that actually when you mention denmark, uh, matz palswick has also made a 866 1:04:30 --> 1:04:32 newspaper 867 1:04:32 --> 1:04:38 Called vox tina just a few number i've been giving out but he's into the business definitely 868 1:04:39 --> 1:04:40 So, um 869 1:04:40 --> 1:04:44 Is that still going pair is matz palswick's um newspaper still going? 870 1:04:45 --> 1:04:50 uh, I don't know actually it it went on for a while and 871 1:04:52 --> 1:04:56 It's been a long stop so but I don't know if it's going to start again 872 1:04:57 --> 1:04:58 um 873 1:04:58 --> 1:05:02 Yeah, what I would like to um to point out. Um 874 1:05:03 --> 1:05:07 you have been talking about the drutras and um, uh, 875 1:05:07 --> 1:05:09 They have a special 876 1:05:11 --> 1:05:13 Promotion with offering 877 1:05:14 --> 1:05:16 delivery to the neighborhood 878 1:05:17 --> 1:05:20 and and that's a very good thing that uh, 879 1:05:21 --> 1:05:23 People can do that 880 1:05:23 --> 1:05:29 I've been thinking a while about this and uh, the whole meaning with with the 881 1:05:30 --> 1:05:34 newspaper a physical paper is to inform people 882 1:05:34 --> 1:05:38 And and if you go further what kind of people do we have to inform? 883 1:05:40 --> 1:05:46 Like it is today, uh, it's very much just giving to everyone or everywhere 884 1:05:47 --> 1:05:50 Where people are without any special planning? 885 1:05:52 --> 1:06:00 So we should look into some strategy of some kind to deliver it to people that really matters in society 886 1:06:01 --> 1:06:02 so 887 1:06:02 --> 1:06:08 That's my suggestion for you darren, uh that you maybe uh work, uh 888 1:06:09 --> 1:06:11 to gather local group 889 1:06:11 --> 1:06:17 To find out which people in their society they want to deliver to for instance 890 1:06:18 --> 1:06:20 local politicians 891 1:06:20 --> 1:06:26 to lawyers and doctors and people that really do have an influence, uh 892 1:06:26 --> 1:06:30 In their society both in local and more general 893 1:06:31 --> 1:06:33 So so, uh, I think 894 1:06:34 --> 1:06:43 A physical paper in this way is very very valuable because it can reach out to the people that really can make a difference in society 895 1:06:43 --> 1:06:48 These people I mentioned they have their networks. They have influence 896 1:06:48 --> 1:06:50 and and they can 897 1:06:50 --> 1:06:55 Do so much more for society when they understand for instance the global agenda 898 1:06:56 --> 1:06:58 and and and uh 899 1:06:58 --> 1:07:01 I mean in local areas we very much 900 1:07:02 --> 1:07:10 see uh politicians do quarrel about small things, but when they understand this bigger picture and they have um 901 1:07:11 --> 1:07:13 a common uh 902 1:07:13 --> 1:07:19 Counterpart they have to fight against then they join very much more and and so well 903 1:07:19 --> 1:07:21 So so just some ideas, uh 904 1:07:23 --> 1:07:27 I think a physical paper has much more potential 905 1:07:27 --> 1:07:33 Uh than than uh, they are being used today. So, uh, so 906 1:07:34 --> 1:07:36 We should keep working with 907 1:07:37 --> 1:07:42 Spreading this physical papers all over the world. I think it's so valuable 908 1:07:43 --> 1:07:44 and we should also 909 1:07:44 --> 1:07:46 another thing, uh is uh 910 1:07:47 --> 1:07:52 It's mostly in the in the english countries english-speaking countries 911 1:07:52 --> 1:07:56 we now have this have these papers canada and uk and 912 1:07:57 --> 1:07:59 ireland and australia 913 1:08:00 --> 1:08:03 There's one in germany one in denmark one in haaland, okay 914 1:08:04 --> 1:08:10 but uh, the the language challenge is something we should deal with because 915 1:08:11 --> 1:08:12 uh 916 1:08:12 --> 1:08:14 This paper should be delivered in in 917 1:08:16 --> 1:08:19 Many more countries around the world. So so 918 1:08:20 --> 1:08:25 We should really think about the language barrier how to deal with it. Okay 919 1:08:26 --> 1:08:32 Yeah, well per I agree with you so oh, but i'm not the guest darren. What do you say? Sorry? No, i'm 920 1:08:33 --> 1:08:34 You know 921 1:08:34 --> 1:08:36 You always go for instincts 922 1:08:37 --> 1:08:41 Your first reaction is always no, I think just drawn attention 923 1:08:41 --> 1:08:45 I think pey's just drawn attention to a very important thing language 924 1:08:45 --> 1:08:51 And the most important language in the world understood by very many people around the world more than any other 925 1:08:51 --> 1:08:55 Language in the world even spanish spanish, I think more people speak spanish 926 1:08:56 --> 1:08:58 fluently than english, uh, but 927 1:08:59 --> 1:09:03 English is the international language you can go anywhere in the world and you can speak english just about 928 1:09:04 --> 1:09:07 And so I think I think you're right pair. So 929 1:09:07 --> 1:09:15 That's why I was asking about the u.s. But I think uh, darren what we could do is kind of work together with other people obviously 930 1:09:15 --> 1:09:16 uh 931 1:09:16 --> 1:09:20 to create a network around the world of 932 1:09:20 --> 1:09:24 So we've got a you've got a template for the light newspaper in the uk 933 1:09:24 --> 1:09:28 Now you could argue well, it works in the uk, but would it work in other countries? 934 1:09:28 --> 1:09:34 You know, well, I think you know, we have to try it. We have to see whether it would work. I don't think 935 1:09:34 --> 1:09:38 Necessarily that in the you we could kind of distribute, uh 936 1:09:39 --> 1:09:43 Newspapers even in the u.s from the uk and other countries. Um 937 1:09:44 --> 1:09:49 Presumably a less risk to people outside the u.s than than inside the u.s 938 1:09:49 --> 1:09:54 If that's the problem, but I don't know. What do you think the possibility there are lots of possibilities 939 1:09:54 --> 1:09:56 I think which need to be discussed 940 1:09:56 --> 1:09:59 and particularly if we could get some 941 1:10:00 --> 1:10:04 People with a lot of money to part with their money because they don't seem to be very keen on that 942 1:10:04 --> 1:10:08 They don't seem to understand that they're going to be victims too of the cbdcs and all the rest of it 943 1:10:09 --> 1:10:13 So it's all the little people that do the activism all the all the all the nobodies 944 1:10:13 --> 1:10:18 Um, you know and it's great, you know, it's great that you what's happening to skills and all the rest of that 945 1:10:18 --> 1:10:23 We didn't realize we had and pairs made some absolutely brilliant suggestions 946 1:10:24 --> 1:10:27 Um, it wasn't me. You mentioned wake up your neighbors 947 1:10:27 --> 1:10:33 And I wasn't lying about being in touch with the druphers because they've been doing that for a year and a half two years 948 1:10:33 --> 1:10:36 What have you but they actually get to use candidate post to deliver it 949 1:10:36 --> 1:10:42 I wouldn't ask our post office. They probably you know, there'd be a backlash and they'd refuse 950 1:10:43 --> 1:10:45 And or it's like happening jersey, by the way 951 1:10:45 --> 1:10:51 There was a a paper and on jersey for I think two issues the jimmy's they were bringing a criminal prosecution against you 952 1:10:52 --> 1:10:56 For some reason because they did that with the 600 postmasters the most trusted people in the uk 953 1:10:57 --> 1:11:03 Suddenly found they were on the wrong side of the criminal law in the uk and they were found guilty 954 1:11:03 --> 1:11:09 I think 600 were found guilty wrongly in the uk, which is a terrible indictment of our criminal law system 955 1:11:10 --> 1:11:12 Um, yeah, absolutely 956 1:11:12 --> 1:11:18 um, and everybody should be aware that you live in a corrupt tyranny and never to expect justice or 957 1:11:18 --> 1:11:23 Help from the system or the government in fact quite the opposite once you're after two changes 958 1:11:23 --> 1:11:26 Once you lose the indoctrination that we've all been instilled with us 959 1:11:27 --> 1:11:30 Yeah, the idea that we need a big government in the first place 960 1:11:30 --> 1:11:35 So no, we need government to be in health service and business and you know all the no we don't need government to do the sewers 961 1:11:36 --> 1:11:41 And on the wall planes and that's it, you know, look strong so people don't invade invade us, but 962 1:11:41 --> 1:11:43 They're not even doing that bit very well are they? 963 1:11:44 --> 1:11:49 And you know, look everybody should manage their own affairs. Um, sorry, let me get back to the suggestions 964 1:11:49 --> 1:11:51 Yeah, so wake up your neighbors druthers 965 1:11:51 --> 1:11:56 Um, we're doing it for a while. I think it's absolutely brilliant. We also have wake up your neighbors as well 966 1:11:56 --> 1:11:59 So in other words if you're not able to to to distribute you don't have the time 967 1:12:00 --> 1:12:02 Or the energy or what have you to be able to distribute papers? 968 1:12:03 --> 1:12:06 And what we're you know, obviously not every postcode yet 969 1:12:06 --> 1:12:10 But wherever there's activists that have signed up to to to deliver for you 970 1:12:10 --> 1:12:14 You can say if there's somebody in your postcode you can contact us or send them 971 1:12:15 --> 1:12:17 100 to 500 to 500 papers can't work 972 1:12:17 --> 1:12:23 Obviously depending how many you want and they will they will post them on the streets that you specify 973 1:12:23 --> 1:12:29 And it's a brilliant it's a brilliant idea we need more activists to want to to want to do it 974 1:12:29 --> 1:12:33 You actually get paid to do it, you know people people distribute happily distribute for free 975 1:12:34 --> 1:12:39 But if if obviously if we can distribute in in post codes across the uk way more post codes 976 1:12:40 --> 1:12:43 And by having yours up there so like we're getting order for your postcode 977 1:12:44 --> 1:12:47 We'll obviously send some papers to go and deliver and more people are woken up in your area as well 978 1:12:47 --> 1:12:52 So it helps both both both you and the person that's ordering anyway wake up your neighbors on on the website 979 1:12:53 --> 1:12:56 The light paper.co.uk. I think it's absolutely excellent 980 1:12:56 --> 1:13:00 And the wake up professionals idea that's that's really interesting 981 1:13:00 --> 1:13:06 And I don't think that we need to essentially direct that sort of suggest it, you know, absolutely 982 1:13:07 --> 1:13:11 I made a point of dropping a copy of the light paper on my local np's 983 1:13:12 --> 1:13:17 Search obviously that would ever there but put in the in the door at least and so wherever you want to distribute 984 1:13:18 --> 1:13:22 The light papers is fiber is taken right into the house of commons bar if you would 985 1:13:22 --> 1:13:24 And that would be wonderful 986 1:13:24 --> 1:13:29 Leave them on the tube and go to you know professional meetings to you know 987 1:13:30 --> 1:13:35 Leave them where they're going to have round tables and whatever, you know, obviously think smart about it. I do you know 988 1:13:36 --> 1:13:40 I don't like essentially directing everything anyway, you know, I prefer coordinating inspiring 989 1:13:41 --> 1:13:46 Suggesting and then for people to to run with it or don't I keep saying that you know 990 1:13:47 --> 1:13:49 And again, you know the idea is control the opposition 991 1:13:49 --> 1:13:55 As soon as people decide that the light paper isn't needed anymore or it's not doing its role properly or what have you 992 1:13:55 --> 1:13:59 Then the paper will stop the people will stop ordering it will stop writing for it and everything else so far 993 1:14:00 --> 1:14:02 And you know 994 1:14:02 --> 1:14:09 98 99 percent of the time we're we're hitting a spot. I love the debate. I love the letters page and people, you know debating 995 1:14:10 --> 1:14:14 Several topics, you know, I have my own opinions on them, but I want you know 996 1:14:14 --> 1:14:20 I like the idea of just having open free speech and debate even from we publish letters from people who say, you know 997 1:14:20 --> 1:14:24 You're all conspiracy theorists and you know, I got infected with kovat and all the rest of it 998 1:14:24 --> 1:14:27 You know, I mean we we want the debate and without free speech 999 1:14:27 --> 1:14:31 We're dead without without the truth we're dead and you can't get to the truth without free speech without the idea 1000 1:14:31 --> 1:14:37 Without the the ability to discuss ideas to debate them and to go round and round if you like, but you know 1001 1:14:38 --> 1:14:39 Until we can get to the truth 1002 1:14:39 --> 1:14:43 And then everything else is screwed and it goes back to again what you're saying about the transgender agenda has been 1003 1:14:44 --> 1:14:47 It's a part of the whole thing get rid of the truth 1004 1:14:47 --> 1:14:52 And people will just be lost and they will need guidance and they will need 1005 1:14:53 --> 1:14:55 And where to go and so get rid of the truth 1006 1:14:56 --> 1:15:01 It's very destabilizing to human beings and that in it 1007 1:15:01 --> 1:15:05 That gives you the clue as to what the motive is 1008 1:15:06 --> 1:15:11 Uh of all the ridiculous things that are happening in the uk like we had a prime minister for three weeks, you know 1009 1:15:12 --> 1:15:14 And but how does that make sense? 1010 1:15:14 --> 1:15:19 How could they possibly know something after one or two weeks or even on the 20th day? 1011 1:15:20 --> 1:15:26 of the three week, uh rain of liz truss that she was suddenly discovered that 1012 1:15:27 --> 1:15:30 She wasn't good enough to be prime minister of this country 1013 1:15:33 --> 1:15:35 Until you realize that actually 1014 1:15:36 --> 1:15:38 You the nord stream 1015 1:15:39 --> 1:15:43 Two pipeline was blown up by a thermonuclear explosion 1016 1:15:43 --> 1:15:49 And we and we've got a guy in this group a professor of theoretical physics who knows what he's talking about 1017 1:15:49 --> 1:15:55 He was trained at um in zurich, you know the famous, uh, the the the um three letter 1018 1:15:56 --> 1:15:59 I can't remember is that g h is it something? 1019 1:16:00 --> 1:16:04 Anyway, the famous, uh, it's one of the top 10 schools in the world of physics 1020 1:16:04 --> 1:16:07 And so he's proved in 11 different ways. I think it is now 1021 1:16:08 --> 1:16:13 Uh that the but there was a thermonuclear explosion which took out the nord stream pipeline and 1022 1:16:14 --> 1:16:18 I don't know whether you know this but I think i'm right in saying that the russians hacked 1023 1:16:19 --> 1:16:25 Liz truss's phone during the time that she was prime minister and there was a message there which um 1024 1:16:26 --> 1:16:33 The russians put out they weren't happy about it. It said we've done it and that was on the day that 1025 1:16:33 --> 1:16:36 the morning after the night when the 1026 1:16:36 --> 1:16:38 Nord stream pipeline was blown up 1027 1:16:39 --> 1:16:43 As far as I can understand that was something to do with nato 1028 1:16:44 --> 1:16:49 In all likelihood, it was america who did it. Um, but the point was that uh, it was a nato 1029 1:16:50 --> 1:16:54 whatever, uh exercised everyone knew what was happening, but the 1030 1:16:55 --> 1:16:59 People in germany who paid the taxes for the government 1031 1:17:00 --> 1:17:02 They were not told by their government 1032 1:17:03 --> 1:17:08 That a thermonuclear explosion had happened in the baltic sea and neither were the swedes 1033 1:17:09 --> 1:17:12 And why that's treason as far as I can see so 1034 1:17:13 --> 1:17:15 Um, how did I get onto that? I don't know 1035 1:17:19 --> 1:17:21 Come on boys. I just want to 1036 1:17:21 --> 1:17:27 I just want to go back to just finish finish it off with with pegs language versions and we talk about the united states 1037 1:17:28 --> 1:17:30 And it'd actually be great to get 1038 1:17:30 --> 1:17:34 An american american translation for our for our paper. That would be the most useful 1039 1:17:35 --> 1:17:36 and 1040 1:17:36 --> 1:17:40 If there's seriously if there's anybody out there who um, you know can take pdfs 1041 1:17:41 --> 1:17:44 And translate them well into another language or many other languages 1042 1:17:44 --> 1:17:47 You've got this, you know, I presume software should be able to do it really well by now 1043 1:17:47 --> 1:17:52 But if you can check and all the rest of it, we don't we don't want to be putting out counter information 1044 1:17:53 --> 1:17:55 Actually, what? 1045 1:17:55 --> 1:17:58 And yeah again look get in touch if you think it's a great idea 1046 1:17:58 --> 1:18:03 You want your spanish spanish speakers to be able to read the light in their own language laluz is it? 1047 1:18:04 --> 1:18:11 And then you know again just get in touch get in touch with us. Um, you know, this paper has gone from a 12 page 1048 1:18:12 --> 1:18:14 um, you know 1049 1:18:14 --> 1:18:21 Obvious amateur thing to this very very professional looking well written 24 28 page 28 page 1050 1:18:22 --> 1:18:28 Um newspaper and because people have come along and gone hey, can I do your redesign? Hey, can I come around? 1051 1:18:28 --> 1:18:30 Hey, can we sort of hey? 1052 1:18:32 --> 1:18:34 Yes, come on come on boy come and help 1053 1:18:35 --> 1:18:40 So darren i've just thought of something daniel can you write this down and remind me so 1054 1:18:40 --> 1:18:44 Daniel ester lin has 10 million followers in the spanish-speaking world 1055 1:18:45 --> 1:18:47 in south america 1056 1:18:47 --> 1:18:53 He advises he's an expert on geopolitics and finance and advises governments in south america 1057 1:18:53 --> 1:18:54 um 1058 1:18:54 --> 1:19:01 um and he uh, so I think much of his audience is roman catholic, uh, but anyway south america 1059 1:19:02 --> 1:19:04 spanish speaking 1060 1:19:04 --> 1:19:09 I think you need to be put in touch because he may well be interested in doing so he's living in mexico now 1061 1:19:09 --> 1:19:11 He was living in canada 1062 1:19:11 --> 1:19:14 so there's a good story there because um, I think i'm right in saying that 1063 1:19:15 --> 1:19:19 When he happened to hear on the radio in canada 1064 1:19:19 --> 1:19:24 When they were leaving that evening for a holiday in 1065 1:19:25 --> 1:19:30 Colorado, I think it was they were going on a skiing holiday. I think i'm not quite sure of this 1066 1:19:30 --> 1:19:33 But anyway, he'll forgive me if I get it wrong 1067 1:19:34 --> 1:19:35 uh, and um 1068 1:19:35 --> 1:19:40 and he heard on the radio it was march 2020 and he heard on the radio that um, 1069 1:19:41 --> 1:19:48 Uh that uh, there was a possibility that they were going to close schools they were talking about closing schools in canada 1070 1:19:49 --> 1:19:53 And that's all he needed. Uh, and he cancelled the holiday 1071 1:19:53 --> 1:19:55 the skiing holiday 1072 1:19:55 --> 1:19:59 Because he realized he had to get himself and his family out of canada 1073 1:19:59 --> 1:20:01 immediately 1074 1:20:01 --> 1:20:06 And I think i'm right in saying by the end of the next day with I think three children from memory 1075 1:20:06 --> 1:20:08 uh, he had 1076 1:20:08 --> 1:20:12 Relocated himself and his family in mexico 1077 1:20:13 --> 1:20:14 Wow 1078 1:20:14 --> 1:20:17 Yeah, so he's yeah. Yeah, that's fair hook us up 1079 1:20:19 --> 1:20:24 Yeah, so, uh, if you could remind me about that now i'll um, i'll just write it down janie unless you're in but 1080 1:20:25 --> 1:20:26 um 1081 1:20:26 --> 1:20:32 Is there anything? Uh else that you think that you think as the editor of this newspaper? 1082 1:20:33 --> 1:20:35 Yeah, uh, we should cover now 1083 1:20:35 --> 1:20:37 Now 1084 1:20:39 --> 1:20:46 Well, you know subjects like the ukraine war, um, uh list trust, you know was she brought into 1085 1:20:46 --> 1:20:48 the prime minister of the uk 1086 1:20:49 --> 1:20:51 specifically specifically 1087 1:20:53 --> 1:20:55 Sorry 1088 1:20:55 --> 1:21:01 I was just gonna say I think I think least trust was the conservative party ordinary member's choice 1089 1:21:02 --> 1:21:03 Um 1090 1:21:03 --> 1:21:09 And what least trust did wrong is not realize, you know her actual position and how the world actually works 1091 1:21:09 --> 1:21:16 Yeah shows it shows politicians naivety as well. She should have done a apr campaign way before she started going 1092 1:21:16 --> 1:21:21 Okay, we're gonna go get all libertarians screwing. Yeah screwing the finances over. You know what I mean? 1093 1:21:21 --> 1:21:23 You're like bing see you later 1094 1:21:24 --> 1:21:25 um 1095 1:21:25 --> 1:21:29 You know and obviously smeared smeared like like crazy ever since I mean what's you look? 1096 1:21:30 --> 1:21:32 If you're going to help in in in 1097 1:21:33 --> 1:21:36 In blowing up people's pipelines, then you're not a good person 1098 1:21:36 --> 1:21:42 And you know people go or look anybody that anybody that ever you know runs a government or runs a big government and doesn't 1099 1:21:43 --> 1:21:49 Probably you have the amyl. It's probably the first politician i've ever seen who's gone. Yeah, I want to cut down government 1100 1:21:49 --> 1:21:52 Got swept into a landslide and it depends on who you're here 1101 1:21:52 --> 1:21:56 But argentina certainly hasn't collapsed since it's probably on the way up, you know, who's going to be paid 1102 1:21:57 --> 1:22:02 What we're built on a debt economy and anybody that wants to try and sort things out is just 1103 1:22:03 --> 1:22:05 You know, you've got a very very big task 1104 1:22:05 --> 1:22:11 I will happily help and support anybody that goes in the right direction from anywhere. You know, I mean if 1105 1:22:12 --> 1:22:13 kissed armatists 1106 1:22:13 --> 1:22:16 And it goes. Oh my god. I'll be on to this 1107 1:22:17 --> 1:22:20 I never gonna happen obviously because these people are very well rewarded 1108 1:22:21 --> 1:22:28 And the most important thing is is the indoctrination of the mind you walk around everybody walks around with models of everything in their heads 1109 1:22:29 --> 1:22:34 Models of the universe models of how life works models how you get sick models of how education how the government work how stay 1110 1:22:35 --> 1:22:37 Models of life. Yeah, this is what you've got to do 1111 1:22:37 --> 1:22:41 You've got a real universe and you do all the rest of it and they've all been put there every single one 1112 1:22:41 --> 1:22:43 Our human mind is incredibly 1113 1:22:44 --> 1:22:49 malleable and plastic they have infinite imaginations god's gift to us as well as free will 1114 1:22:49 --> 1:22:54 Um is is an infinite imagination. We all obviously thank god aren't infinitely powerful 1115 1:22:54 --> 1:22:57 Otherwise, we didn't like each other. We cried ourselves out a long time ago 1116 1:22:58 --> 1:23:04 And we're limited in power, but we're not limited in imagination. Um, and we're certainly not limited in ingenuity either 1117 1:23:05 --> 1:23:06 so 1118 1:23:06 --> 1:23:12 Everybody should use their gifts. We should use their like their natural gifts. I just want to play out one thing as well. Um, 1119 1:23:12 --> 1:23:13 Um, uh, 1120 1:23:13 --> 1:23:20 Again, there are no countries mr. Beale if you ever seen a video, sorry film brilliant film from 1976 called network 1121 1:23:21 --> 1:23:22 and 1122 1:23:22 --> 1:23:24 You don't look actually that dissimilar 1123 1:23:25 --> 1:23:28 Um, i've forgotten his name now. They actually plays it. But anyway, uh, famously 1124 1:23:29 --> 1:23:33 Is the newscaster who says, you know, i'm as mad as hell i'm not going to take it anymore 1125 1:23:33 --> 1:23:38 That's that's the that's the line everybody remembers about that. But then bt draws him into the boardroom 1126 1:23:39 --> 1:23:40 there's a scene 1127 1:23:40 --> 1:23:46 Where he basically lays out how the world actually works. There are no countries. There's no east to west 1128 1:23:46 --> 1:23:53 There's no you know, it's just one great big conglomeration of businesses ebb and flow the power of money flowing 1129 1:23:53 --> 1:23:56 There's no there's no, you know, russia v america 1130 1:23:56 --> 1:24:01 The cold war was phony every war's phone every war in the last 200 years is phony 1131 1:24:02 --> 1:24:05 Yeah, i'm not saying people haven't died and there haven't been real wars. But at what? 1132 1:24:06 --> 1:24:13 Again anybody else i'm gonna at what point do I hate german people or argentinian people or now russian people or ukrainian? 1133 1:24:13 --> 1:24:17 Oh, no, we're on ukraine side. Sorry. We hate russia. Don't we? I'm sure that'll change next week 1134 1:24:17 --> 1:24:23 You know if you've read 1984 it really does and you're you know, obviously not a conditioned mind if you read 1984 1135 1:24:23 --> 1:24:27 It absolutely prepares you for every single thing that they've been doing 1136 1:24:27 --> 1:24:29 I was just you know 1137 1:24:29 --> 1:24:34 You get that moment where when you when you wake up and realize that the full spectrum of things like it's exactly like 1984 1138 1:24:34 --> 1:24:37 Across with brave new world across with various other things as well 1139 1:24:38 --> 1:24:38 and 1140 1:24:38 --> 1:24:41 But everybody should be aware of how much they have been conditioned 1141 1:24:41 --> 1:24:47 You've got to do if you really want to get to the truth do a complete reductio on every single thing 1142 1:24:47 --> 1:24:49 You know that you haven't got through your own 1143 1:24:50 --> 1:24:54 Through your own, you know senses and experience. Yes, your senses can fool you but not every single day 1144 1:24:54 --> 1:25:00 Yeah, that's me. What you know, give me an absolute truth, you know to to take i can't know anything about part of my conscious 1145 1:25:00 --> 1:25:03 Yes, that's one but the other one is the sky's blue when they're not chemjail 1146 1:25:04 --> 1:25:07 The sky's blue. Oh, well, some people see see might see yeah 1147 1:25:07 --> 1:25:12 Okay on the outliers most people will see the sky as that shade. Yeah most of the time 1148 1:25:13 --> 1:25:17 It's a it's a it's a you know, we doubt our own senses. That's what they get us to do 1149 1:25:17 --> 1:25:20 So get rid of absolutely everything you've ever been taught 1150 1:25:21 --> 1:25:23 And start again 1151 1:25:24 --> 1:25:25 It's a lot of fun to do 1152 1:25:25 --> 1:25:27 and 1153 1:25:27 --> 1:25:29 The journey is incredible. It's an amazing day 1154 1:25:30 --> 1:25:36 And you know still learning still falling through the doors, we don't know where or when we are 1155 1:25:37 --> 1:25:40 We really don't we can you know, we you don't know what we might do about 1156 1:25:41 --> 1:25:44 But obviously complete paranoia about everything and everyone isn't going to be helpful 1157 1:25:44 --> 1:25:50 So find the rocks find darren. I want to ask you you mentioned 1984. So do you think that 1158 1:25:51 --> 1:25:56 Because I don't know whether you know that but george orwell he went to eden on the one hand 1159 1:25:57 --> 1:26:02 But he wrote a book called down and out in paris and london. He spent a year on the streets of paris 1160 1:26:03 --> 1:26:05 and london as far as I can understand and 1161 1:26:06 --> 1:26:14 So but the point is so it's possible that he wrote 1984 with a good heart, you know trying to warn the people 1162 1:26:14 --> 1:26:19 But some people suggest that he actually wrote it as a playbook. Which do you think it was? 1163 1:26:21 --> 1:26:26 Or or george orwell didn't actually exist and it was supposed to be eric blair or how did this guy 1164 1:26:26 --> 1:26:31 You know even exist was it was it a team of writers, you know at mi6 mi5? 1165 1:26:32 --> 1:26:34 You know it 1166 1:26:35 --> 1:26:40 I mean, you know look you don't get you don't get to publish a book and make it worldwide unless you're in the club 1167 1:26:41 --> 1:26:44 And you don't get to be you know, make a film or or anything else. You don't get to be you know 1168 1:26:45 --> 1:26:51 On tv all the time or have millions and millions of followers unless you are a limited hangout or controlled opposition in some way 1169 1:26:51 --> 1:26:53 Sometimes people don't know the controlled opposition 1170 1:26:54 --> 1:26:58 So was it was it predictive programming do you think or or do you think it was 1171 1:26:59 --> 1:27:03 Yeah, I think so. They made film, you know, they make a film about it as well for me 1172 1:27:04 --> 1:27:08 It was a serious warning and because i read it in 1984 for the love 1173 1:27:08 --> 1:27:11 um, you know and several times since 1174 1:27:11 --> 1:27:15 And and it was like wow, that's that's that wow that'd be terrible 1175 1:27:15 --> 1:27:22 What a terrible world that would be to live in where everything's censored and you can't think certain things and all the rest of it 1176 1:27:22 --> 1:27:25 Well darren love was banned very importantly love was banned 1177 1:27:26 --> 1:27:35 Do you remember so julia and um winston were the two last they were the two last human beings who were still capable of love? 1178 1:27:36 --> 1:27:38 And eventually julia betrayed winston 1179 1:27:39 --> 1:27:41 Yeah, and eventually 1180 1:27:41 --> 1:27:44 Winston betrayed himself to big brother 1181 1:27:45 --> 1:27:49 It's an interesting that you know what it's an interesting. Um, it's an interesting 1182 1:27:50 --> 1:27:51 Juxtaposition 1183 1:27:51 --> 1:27:56 opposite of what jesus did because julia and both julia and 1184 1:27:56 --> 1:27:57 winston 1185 1:27:57 --> 1:28:02 Uh, you know betrayed each other they went no go stop doing it to me do it to her do it to her 1186 1:28:02 --> 1:28:08 It was obviously jesus was there was the guy that went. Yeah, I will take on uh, all the all the pain and all the all the 1187 1:28:08 --> 1:28:10 Um all the suffering 1188 1:28:10 --> 1:28:13 Uh for other beings that's love that's proper agape 1189 1:28:13 --> 1:28:15 uh love 1190 1:28:15 --> 1:28:18 Unconditional they have that you know that a parent has for their child 1191 1:28:18 --> 1:28:24 Um, if we can all practice a little bit more of that not be so um quick to you know anger 1192 1:28:24 --> 1:28:28 And I mean, you know, we're all we're all going to do we we all need to be better people 1193 1:28:29 --> 1:28:33 Um as well as as well as reorganize our thoughts and what we know and what we know and trust and believe about the world 1194 1:28:34 --> 1:28:36 And we can all work on on being better people 1195 1:28:36 --> 1:28:39 I walk along the streets. My I say hello to 1196 1:28:39 --> 1:28:41 everybody 1197 1:28:41 --> 1:28:47 I think i was because it's all right, but everybody's i'd say 90 percent of people are really happy to go. Oh, hi 1198 1:28:49 --> 1:28:51 These are people you don't know yes. No. Yeah, yeah 1199 1:28:52 --> 1:28:55 Walk along the street in town in the inner city. What happened? Yeah 1200 1:28:56 --> 1:29:02 When you say town you talk about london darren could be london could be could be stoke could be manchester could be you know 1201 1:29:02 --> 1:29:05 wherever I am and wherever i've been invited to 1202 1:29:06 --> 1:29:08 And if i'm walking along the streets of holland 1203 1:29:08 --> 1:29:12 Uh out i'll be smiling and letting on to people to know that yeah 1204 1:29:12 --> 1:29:18 They're alive and somebody else cares and somebody else is smiling at them and it's okay to be it's okay to be chilled 1205 1:29:18 --> 1:29:20 It's okay to be cool 1206 1:29:20 --> 1:29:22 Which is your favorite city in the uk? 1207 1:29:24 --> 1:29:26 Oh, I don't have one that's why I live out in the country now 1208 1:29:28 --> 1:29:30 You're out of the country now 1209 1:29:30 --> 1:29:35 Yeah, yeah. I got us god definitely blessed us it you know, but again from coming back to manchester in 2018 with nothing 1210 1:29:36 --> 1:29:40 And you know, uh, so it's rented. I'm not I don't own a house or anything 1211 1:29:40 --> 1:29:42 But um, it's a place where we can have chickens 1212 1:29:43 --> 1:29:47 Um, and the and the boys can run around and what have you and it's not on a busy street and you know 1213 1:29:48 --> 1:29:53 It's everything you dream of. Um, and i'm really blessed. I'm really happy. I've been working hard 1214 1:29:54 --> 1:29:56 Where is that? 1215 1:29:57 --> 1:30:01 In staffordshire, oh I see staffordshire. Yeah. Oh, so you're not out of the country then 1216 1:30:02 --> 1:30:03 I'm not 1217 1:30:03 --> 1:30:07 You're not out of the country. I'm not out of the country. I said i'm out in the country 1218 1:30:08 --> 1:30:12 Ah, okay got it. Yeah, I don't realize I don't realize the cities again 1219 1:30:12 --> 1:30:18 You know you can't get completely away from wi-fi radiation emfs and all the rest of which is a very big health concern and 1220 1:30:19 --> 1:30:21 Definitely you asked about topics. I don't know if you cover it but 1221 1:30:22 --> 1:30:27 And you know, it's it's it's it's seriously it's what it's what makes a lot of people ill 1222 1:30:27 --> 1:30:31 I mean, I think I think coby 19 a lot of it was radiation sickness some of it was flu 1223 1:30:31 --> 1:30:36 And obviously some of it was murdering murdering people in in hospitals and care homes 1224 1:30:36 --> 1:30:37 um 1225 1:30:37 --> 1:30:39 And a lot of it was radiation sickness 1226 1:30:40 --> 1:30:44 Um, you know and it could be that that's what the flu actually is. I mean, you know 1227 1:30:45 --> 1:30:48 Detox, yes, of course look any any if you have symptoms 1228 1:30:48 --> 1:30:54 Symptoms, yeah the symptoms of your body's obviously your body's explanation expilation of toxins 1229 1:30:54 --> 1:31:01 Uh build up with toxins. That's what being ill is. Um, the best doctors advice I've ever come across is if you're ill 1230 1:31:02 --> 1:31:04 Take yourself to bed 1231 1:31:04 --> 1:31:05 and rest 1232 1:31:05 --> 1:31:09 That's it don't do anything else just get out of your way the human body is an amazing 1233 1:31:10 --> 1:31:14 Amazing machine if you like, um, it's it's a you know, it's an amazing piece of technology 1234 1:31:14 --> 1:31:20 You know, no no man could ever recreate he worked to recreate. He haven't even created a meber or nothing yet, but 1235 1:31:20 --> 1:31:21 um 1236 1:31:21 --> 1:31:27 Itself heals and that's the that's the big, you know lie of of the medical industry of the big pharma 1237 1:31:28 --> 1:31:32 And every time they give you a pill to cut to stop your body's own 1238 1:31:32 --> 1:31:39 You know defense mechanism against toxins which the symptoms it stops the symptoms so it stops your body's recovery 1239 1:31:40 --> 1:31:46 And also gives you untold other problems as well. Like you say the number one killer for me 1240 1:31:46 --> 1:31:48 I think is iatrogenesis 1241 1:31:48 --> 1:31:49 um, you know 1242 1:31:49 --> 1:31:52 People never go to the doctors never go to the hospital in the first place 1243 1:31:52 --> 1:31:58 And they would be well i'm live today and we obviously know that with people who've taken the injectables 1244 1:31:58 --> 1:31:59 Yeah 1245 1:31:59 --> 1:32:04 That that were marketed around the world aggressively for two and a half three years and still are today 1246 1:32:05 --> 1:32:08 You know, I don't I honestly don't think they'll get away with the pandemic again 1247 1:32:08 --> 1:32:10 um, I I you know 1248 1:32:10 --> 1:32:15 They'll set up for it if they can get other things other things in place like, you know programmable cvdc wallets 1249 1:32:16 --> 1:32:18 and you know, um, obviously, uh 1250 1:32:19 --> 1:32:23 Digital ID but digital ID is not going to be a card or on a so even an app on your phone 1251 1:32:23 --> 1:32:27 It's just going to be it's all the camera network and it's just your face and your gate and all the rest of it 1252 1:32:27 --> 1:32:33 You'll you'll be automatically IDed. And if you've been to a supermarket certain supermarkets recently that there's there's barriers 1253 1:32:34 --> 1:32:36 And and red and green lights there. They're not being used now 1254 1:32:37 --> 1:32:40 but of course in the future if you're a decedent of some kind and you 1255 1:32:41 --> 1:32:47 Refuse to accept the transgender agenda or the fact there's a climate crisis and the earth is melting or boiling or freezing or whatever 1256 1:32:47 --> 1:32:52 You're supposed to be doing and if you don't accept whatever the government tell you to believe on the corporations 1257 1:32:53 --> 1:32:58 And then you ain't eating so everybody should work on not having to use the supermarket 1258 1:32:58 --> 1:33:02 Why would they want red and green lights in supermarkets? What's that about? 1259 1:33:03 --> 1:33:05 Oh, it's no that's just to stop you coming in 1260 1:33:05 --> 1:33:09 Yeah, if you don't have the right social credit score if you haven't had your vaccines up today 1261 1:33:09 --> 1:33:14 I'm talking about at some point in the near future. Yeah, um, the the red light will will stay on you 1262 1:33:14 --> 1:33:16 You won't be allowed access into the supermarket. So 1263 1:33:16 --> 1:33:21 But didn't they have red lights in tescos in 2021? Yep 1264 1:33:22 --> 1:33:25 Yeah, and they've also got them in fact, they're putting them in I know, you know 1265 1:33:25 --> 1:33:29 I know they're aldean little I shop at the bottom end of the market, but you know, they're in aldean little 1266 1:33:30 --> 1:33:35 Barriers and they're there, you know, they would they were put in initially for the vaccine passports 1267 1:33:35 --> 1:33:37 Yeah, obviously the vaccine passports going to be pushed and pushed 1268 1:33:38 --> 1:33:43 I I thank god for the nhs 100k for the doctors and nurses in the nhs who put a stop 1269 1:33:44 --> 1:33:47 Put a definitive stop to mandate for vaccines 1270 1:33:47 --> 1:33:52 They went for the care home workers first because they know the care home workers are not as you know, um, stable 1271 1:33:52 --> 1:33:54 They're not as bright. They're not as you know 1272 1:33:54 --> 1:33:57 You know ready and willing to fight for fight for you know, what have you? 1273 1:33:59 --> 1:34:01 They want to keep the jobs 1274 1:34:01 --> 1:34:07 You know and a lot of people got injected a lot of people, you know have suffered have suffered since the doctors and nurses 1275 1:34:07 --> 1:34:11 You stopped it. They had the big protests in london put all the um, you know the medical uniforms down 1276 1:34:12 --> 1:34:14 I hope hope that you know some here were part of that as well 1277 1:34:14 --> 1:34:19 And they really stopped the vaccine mandate because that was going to go all the way through society 1278 1:34:19 --> 1:34:24 And it already was for jobs and what have you people forget how what tyranny we've been under and we need to keep 1279 1:34:25 --> 1:34:30 We need to keep reminding people and that's why again a physical paper is so important physical record 1280 1:34:30 --> 1:34:35 Of what what you know, obviously at any point in the future if I do get taken out or imprisoned or what have you 1281 1:34:36 --> 1:34:38 Somebody can at least go and go and reprint all of those issues 1282 1:34:39 --> 1:34:44 And they'll still be relevant today because they're still containing all the all the safe information that people need to know and haven't 1283 1:34:44 --> 1:34:50 And when you've got 300 000 being printed every month, of course, some copies are going to survive 1284 1:34:50 --> 1:34:53 so not all of them will be taken out, so 1285 1:34:54 --> 1:34:57 it's not as difficult it's much more difficult to get rid of 1286 1:34:59 --> 1:35:03 Newspapers in print and say online newspapers, you know, so um 1287 1:35:04 --> 1:35:05 um 1288 1:35:05 --> 1:35:12 So some copies would always survive so you can always once you've got if you've only got one copy left and then you can print 1289 1:35:13 --> 1:35:15 And copy them um 1290 1:35:15 --> 1:35:19 Copy it so, uh, I can understand the power of it. So it's a great I agree with you 1291 1:35:19 --> 1:35:21 and actually we do need a kind of um, 1292 1:35:22 --> 1:35:29 A diary of what happened because it's very easy to forget how bad things were in 2020 and 2021 1293 1:35:30 --> 1:35:32 And even in 2022 1294 1:35:32 --> 1:35:35 um, but even now actually but for different reasons, um, 1295 1:35:36 --> 1:35:37 so I 1296 1:35:37 --> 1:35:44 One one of the big things that is overlooked by a lot of people, you know, they say that it's uh radiation 1297 1:35:44 --> 1:35:47 I you know, it's possible. It's radiation. It's possible. It's a lot of things 1298 1:35:47 --> 1:35:54 but I think the one thing that gets overlooked all the time is the deliberate generation of fear by um, 1299 1:35:55 --> 1:35:58 propaganda, uh psychological torture and um 1300 1:35:59 --> 1:36:04 And I think huge sections of the british population and probably around the world too 1301 1:36:05 --> 1:36:11 Are traumatized into a state of stockham syndrome and uh, they haven't come out of it. Yeah 1302 1:36:12 --> 1:36:15 Well, that starts in school to be honest, um, you know 1303 1:36:17 --> 1:36:21 And it's it's how we are raised and how we raise the next generations 1304 1:36:21 --> 1:36:24 Um, you know if you're aware you should be doing everything 1305 1:36:24 --> 1:36:27 Um, not should be you know again not purity test 1306 1:36:27 --> 1:36:33 But you want to do everything possible to and make the world a better place and going forwards. Um, you know 1307 1:36:34 --> 1:36:40 Just try and make the world a better place than the one we inherited because there will be more generations and more generations to come 1308 1:36:40 --> 1:36:42 um 1309 1:36:44 --> 1:36:47 You made you made a great point. Oh, yeah about a record. Sorry. I was I was gonna say 1310 1:36:48 --> 1:36:49 I realized 1311 1:36:49 --> 1:36:55 Um reasonably quickly maybe after a year or so that we weren't just you know, just a newspaper. Hey, here's the news 1312 1:36:55 --> 1:37:00 We're actually forming a record of what's been going on and what's absolutely very important 1313 1:37:01 --> 1:37:07 Winston smith's job's an absolute dovel with the internet. Did he in fact he doesn't need to be a person 1314 1:37:07 --> 1:37:12 It's just an algorithm as soon as you mention certain words or what have you your shadow bound 1315 1:37:12 --> 1:37:14 and 1316 1:37:14 --> 1:37:16 And you know and everything else so 1317 1:37:16 --> 1:37:21 And I realized it was keeping a record which again make kind of made the job easier because it's like what news do we want? 1318 1:37:22 --> 1:37:25 People to have you know from this month. This is what happened. What do we want to collect? 1319 1:37:25 --> 1:37:28 Can't get everything in obviously we'd like to which we try and get 1320 1:37:29 --> 1:37:32 You know a broad spectrum of what's going on knowing that there's going to be another one every month 1321 1:37:32 --> 1:37:39 So all our pdf. Oh, sorry all our back issues are available on free pdf from our website the white paper.co.uk 1322 1:37:39 --> 1:37:41 and and you can sort of 1323 1:37:42 --> 1:37:45 Some of the back issues in actual physical form 1324 1:37:46 --> 1:37:50 And but obviously the number one thing to do going forward if you've just heard about the light paper 1325 1:37:50 --> 1:37:52 Or if it's like you knew about it 1326 1:37:52 --> 1:37:58 But um never thought about getting involved is order 25 copies or 50 copies or 100 copies get them delivered to you 1327 1:37:58 --> 1:38:03 We send them to you to your door and you go and distribute them wherever you want. Oh brilliant. Yeah 1328 1:38:04 --> 1:38:06 So yeah, and you can do that online. Can you? 1329 1:38:08 --> 1:38:10 Not that we want to be online these days 1330 1:38:10 --> 1:38:12 Yeah, but we live in the world where it is, you know 1331 1:38:12 --> 1:38:17 So while whilst whilst you can go online and you can still you use these tools use them 1332 1:38:17 --> 1:38:20 Yeah, we know that we know that the internet and the digital world is their thing 1333 1:38:21 --> 1:38:27 It's there for surveillance and control but it's here and we use it. So, you know, you know, I know I was I was I was saying 1334 1:38:28 --> 1:38:30 Earlier, you can't reach that many people social media 1335 1:38:30 --> 1:38:36 But certainly for connecting with each other and exchanging ideas and information and inspiring each other and oh, they're doing that over there 1336 1:38:36 --> 1:38:40 That's like that's a great idea. That's how this movement's been done so well so far darren 1337 1:38:40 --> 1:38:45 You'll be very flattered and very interested to hear maybe that last night. Um, I 1338 1:38:47 --> 1:38:50 I was doing the uh invitations preparing the invitations, you know 1339 1:38:51 --> 1:38:57 And so I noticed the wikipedia entry and you got six there were 60 references on it. It's a long 1340 1:38:58 --> 1:39:00 Long piece on wikipedia 1341 1:39:00 --> 1:39:05 And uh, and then I saw the outrageous article from the bbc 1342 1:39:06 --> 1:39:08 So I thought I was going to put it there so that charles could um 1343 1:39:09 --> 1:39:15 Charles could read it, you know, I was going to make him read it the whole both but he wouldn't do it tonight 1344 1:39:15 --> 1:39:21 but anyway, the point of this so when I came to so I got it all there, you know copied and pasted and um, 1345 1:39:22 --> 1:39:25 And whatever and it was all I was checking all the dates, you know 1346 1:39:25 --> 1:39:28 And because it's not very good idea if you're gonna get 1347 1:39:28 --> 1:39:34 Guests to come here, you know to get the dates wrong or the time wrong in all these different times. I have to check 1348 1:39:35 --> 1:39:38 We are having you know displaying ocd 1349 1:39:40 --> 1:39:46 But but anyway, I got it already and then they put send I thought right great i'm gonna bed now and guess what? 1350 1:39:46 --> 1:39:52 BT come up with a message cannot send this for content con. Oh, first of all, they said 1351 1:39:52 --> 1:39:54 Cannot send because it's too long 1352 1:39:55 --> 1:39:57 Also words to that effect, you know 1353 1:39:57 --> 1:40:04 Uh, so it could be malware or fishware or whatever and I just thought oh Jesus here we go again the bt my bt 1354 1:40:05 --> 1:40:07 um email, you know 1355 1:40:07 --> 1:40:13 Censoring and then the next thing was I so I thought i'll just take one out and then it won't be too long 1356 1:40:13 --> 1:40:17 You know, so I thought if that was the real reason so guess what then next one 1357 1:40:18 --> 1:40:21 Next message when I get rid of one of them. I got rid of the bbc one 1358 1:40:21 --> 1:40:29 I still had the wikipedia one with the 60 references and um, and then it said um cannot send this for content reasons 1359 1:40:32 --> 1:40:38 Nice so they wouldn't even they wouldn't even they didn't so bt the woke bgt bt 1360 1:40:38 --> 1:40:42 You know, they're part of the problem and the tesco and all the rest of them 1361 1:40:42 --> 1:40:47 Um, they kind of uh, they wouldn't didn't want to put even the trashing of you 1362 1:40:48 --> 1:40:52 In the email well, maybe they're actually working on our side then 1363 1:40:54 --> 1:40:56 So there I am being I haven't been censored much 1364 1:40:57 --> 1:41:01 I'm all the solutions and it's not very often that's happened 1365 1:41:01 --> 1:41:07 But one time I did notice my email was stopped for content reasons was when I had um 1366 1:41:08 --> 1:41:11 Bill gates's name in the subject. So I thought um 1367 1:41:12 --> 1:41:16 You need to take your email provider his name. So I took bill gates's name out 1368 1:41:17 --> 1:41:21 I tried several times to send it with bill gates's name because I want that was the point, you know to get 1369 1:41:22 --> 1:41:27 And I can't remember what it was about. But anyway, his name was a you know, so clearly there's an algorithm to hunt out 1370 1:41:28 --> 1:41:31 Uh bill gates's name in subjects and if he's in the subject 1371 1:41:32 --> 1:41:40 Gets taken out. How do I know that because when I took bill gates's name out of the subject no other changes whatsoever went 1372 1:41:41 --> 1:41:42 Yeah 1373 1:41:42 --> 1:41:45 Yeah, incredible. Um, yeah, like I say i'm all for solutions 1374 1:41:45 --> 1:41:52 So if honestly if you've actually blocked bonfire send an email for content change your email provider, I know everybody's got an email 1375 1:41:52 --> 1:41:54 It's harder to change than your mobile number 1376 1:41:55 --> 1:41:56 um 1377 1:41:56 --> 1:42:03 But proton mail, you know, it's supposed to be all encrypted and what have you. I don't believe you know telegram and all the rest of it 1378 1:42:03 --> 1:42:08 Look if it's online, it's available and it's you know, it's attached to some kind of intelligent network 1379 1:42:08 --> 1:42:13 There's no free there's no privacy online should we say but i've never ever been censored once 1380 1:42:13 --> 1:42:17 Um from proto, you know from proto mail all the people censored the light paper's emails 1381 1:42:17 --> 1:42:21 It goes straight to spam for the people who just you know, just been chatting to people 1382 1:42:22 --> 1:42:27 Never mind just go straight to the spam because it's the light paper, you know what I mean? Um, 1383 1:42:27 --> 1:42:29 I don't know. Yeah another 1384 1:42:29 --> 1:42:36 Another reminder to be real and send letters. Yeah, so darren, do you know david webb? Um david rogers webb? 1385 1:42:36 --> 1:42:38 He did he wrote the break taking 1386 1:42:38 --> 1:42:43 Yes, so yesterday I got an email out of the blue. No, no, it was it's on. Um, whatsapp. That's right 1387 1:42:43 --> 1:42:48 He sent me a whatsapp message. So I looked at it. So why is david webb sending me this? 1388 1:42:48 --> 1:42:50 He said i've just found this 1389 1:42:50 --> 1:42:55 so I looked at and somehow or other david webb was sending me a recording of my 1390 1:42:56 --> 1:42:57 uh 1391 1:42:57 --> 1:43:00 Kind of messages, you know on my phone when I missed the call 1392 1:43:01 --> 1:43:05 And one of them, uh, so he said I thought why is david then I remembered 1393 1:43:06 --> 1:43:12 Just it was like deep in my memory, you know, but I had sent it to david webb amongst other people 1394 1:43:12 --> 1:43:19 This recording of my messages on my phone and one of them was from bt on a previous occasion 1395 1:43:20 --> 1:43:24 When they blocked my content, you know, in other words censored me 1396 1:43:25 --> 1:43:27 um, and um 1397 1:43:27 --> 1:43:30 And there was a she was leaving a message and she said 1398 1:43:31 --> 1:43:33 We we think that the reason that you've been 1399 1:43:33 --> 1:43:36 Um, you can't send the email is because 1400 1:43:37 --> 1:43:39 You're talking about covid 1401 1:43:40 --> 1:43:45 And I could hear david laughing in the background. I think it was david there was a 1402 1:43:46 --> 1:43:50 I couldn't make sense of it. I've got to ask david about that. But but the point was we've got it on 1403 1:43:51 --> 1:43:54 The recording which I obviously thought was interesting 1404 1:43:55 --> 1:43:57 She was actually saying 1405 1:43:57 --> 1:44:01 We think it won't go because of bt thought it wouldn't go because there was something 1406 1:44:02 --> 1:44:05 Not right about what I was saying about covid 1407 1:44:05 --> 1:44:12 Crazy crazy. Yeah. Anyway, tom rodman, uh, has got his hand up. It's your go ahead tom 1408 1:44:13 --> 1:44:18 Yeah, thanks for the presentation and for the paper. Um, I'm 1409 1:44:19 --> 1:44:22 What about the logistics? Like how do you get the paper? 1410 1:44:22 --> 1:44:24 distributed we we have the 1411 1:44:25 --> 1:44:27 paper in in milwaukee 1412 1:44:29 --> 1:44:31 that is actually just 1413 1:44:31 --> 1:44:34 Carted around and you know, they they they print it out. It's uh 1414 1:44:35 --> 1:44:38 called welfare warriors and um 1415 1:44:39 --> 1:44:46 Anyhow, um, it's an old-fashioned distribution network of volunteers. So, you know, so that's one question and then also 1416 1:44:47 --> 1:44:54 You arrived at the pdf format and um, you know, it's a pretty looking paper who who kind of 1417 1:44:55 --> 1:44:58 Came up with a design because it does look like a real paper 1418 1:44:58 --> 1:45:00 And I appreciate that 1419 1:45:00 --> 1:45:02 and um 1420 1:45:02 --> 1:45:04 Let's see. Oh 1421 1:45:04 --> 1:45:08 But I don't think i've seen it printed. Um like in 1422 1:45:08 --> 1:45:10 my area they used to have 1423 1:45:11 --> 1:45:13 free papers with 1424 1:45:13 --> 1:45:20 Free boxes, you know out on the street, which I guess are private property by the way, you can't put stickers on those 1425 1:45:20 --> 1:45:26 um, is it what size is it or is it like a magazine or you know, and so 1426 1:45:26 --> 1:45:28 Um 1427 1:45:28 --> 1:45:33 Yeah, and then we put the telegram link in the uh in the chat and we put your um 1428 1:45:34 --> 1:45:38 Your url for your main, you know where people can get the pdf. Is there any other 1429 1:45:39 --> 1:45:43 Thing other than telegram. Well, I think you have a twitter account, right? 1430 1:45:44 --> 1:45:48 So no, none of those are active. I haven't even got um, I haven't got access to the facebook 1431 1:45:49 --> 1:45:51 Page either it doesn't really matter 1432 1:45:51 --> 1:45:56 The the network's kind of set up and when and it's just kind of evolved almost by itself 1433 1:45:56 --> 1:46:01 When somebody drops out somebody else comes in and you're asking about the obviously the distribution model 1434 1:46:02 --> 1:46:04 And nowadays basically we get it printed 1435 1:46:04 --> 1:46:07 And we then get it taken to around 20 1436 1:46:08 --> 1:46:10 warehouse hubs across the country 1437 1:46:11 --> 1:46:13 and then from there 1438 1:46:13 --> 1:46:15 And people will either parcel up 1439 1:46:16 --> 1:46:22 And the 50s 100s to what we're happy to send out to other people or they will directly give them to 1440 1:46:22 --> 1:46:27 Um, you know distributors in their in their area and they'll take them away and and what have you some people go out 1441 1:46:27 --> 1:46:34 Deliver them do they've got regular rounds businesses shops, you know news agents cafes takeaways, etc, etc that we drop them off all the time 1442 1:46:36 --> 1:46:38 The difference in response 1443 1:46:39 --> 1:46:42 And obviously this is feedback from all the distributors difference in response now 1444 1:46:43 --> 1:46:47 Um to what it was like in 2020 21 22 and people being abused 1445 1:46:48 --> 1:46:52 Uh, you know, obviously shouted at spatter. I hope you die and all the rest of it too now 1446 1:46:52 --> 1:46:56 Have you got any more of them papers? Have you got any more? Have you got the latest issue? You got latest issue yet? 1447 1:46:56 --> 1:46:59 Um, i've got that one, you know what I mean? Um 1448 1:46:59 --> 1:47:04 It's incredible. It's great to see it's great people that people are more more open to the truth 1449 1:47:05 --> 1:47:10 And and the more more places that do it across the across the across the across the world really 1450 1:47:10 --> 1:47:12 And the better it'll be for all of us 1451 1:47:13 --> 1:47:17 In terms of the design it's evolved. Um, I completely honestly stole the times 1452 1:47:18 --> 1:47:22 For our early designs, um completely copied there basically their front page 1453 1:47:23 --> 1:47:25 and and 1454 1:47:25 --> 1:47:28 And then about a year and a half two years ago 1455 1:47:29 --> 1:47:35 Again, as has been in my experience with the light vapor is that a professional graphic designer with you know, some great work 1456 1:47:35 --> 1:47:39 So hey, can I kind of redesign the the the paper for you free? 1457 1:47:40 --> 1:47:41 Like yeah, sure 1458 1:47:41 --> 1:47:46 And that's why it looks the way it does. It's future proof now. I mean that that logo will last for a very long time 1459 1:47:47 --> 1:47:48 and 1460 1:47:48 --> 1:47:50 Uh, we'll keep the format 1461 1:47:50 --> 1:47:54 It will be a newspaper even if it is a monthly and it's more of a monthly record if you like 1462 1:47:55 --> 1:48:00 um, but again, i'm um, you know, I I just pick the articles 1463 1:48:00 --> 1:48:01 and 1464 1:48:01 --> 1:48:05 You know the ones that people send or got obviously go source it for the ones that I want to include 1465 1:48:06 --> 1:48:09 And and then I send them across to our amazing layout designer 1466 1:48:10 --> 1:48:14 And mickey also does a lot of the center spreads a lot of the there's a lot of design work for us 1467 1:48:15 --> 1:48:20 And he's absolutely brilliant. He's funny enough. He's floating around mexico and the united states at the moment 1468 1:48:21 --> 1:48:23 and 1469 1:48:23 --> 1:48:27 And yeah, so, you know, we kind of design it between us 1470 1:48:28 --> 1:48:32 And look if the right person has got the take takes the ball by the horn says I want to do this paper 1471 1:48:32 --> 1:48:35 We should do a freak. We should do a paper like this. You know what I mean? 1472 1:48:36 --> 1:48:42 Um, just copy the model and obviously i'm here for any advice. Um as well. I've already got about five minutes left guys 1473 1:48:43 --> 1:48:49 So, um, if you want to ask last questions and wrap up sure. Yeah, so tom, uh, there you go 1474 1:48:49 --> 1:48:51 You can be a newspaper 1475 1:48:51 --> 1:48:54 Proprietor you didn't know what to do. So now you know what you're gonna do 1476 1:48:55 --> 1:48:57 Which state are you in tom? 1477 1:48:58 --> 1:49:04 Kansas was it? Uh, yeah, no no, uh, wisconsin, which is north of illinois. I know only wisconsin 1478 1:49:05 --> 1:49:06 Yeah, yeah 1479 1:49:06 --> 1:49:08 And right now 1480 1:49:08 --> 1:49:12 Now i'm on the other side of the lake. Uh, uh in the 45th parallel 1481 1:49:12 --> 1:49:14 Um in michigan, isn't it? 1482 1:49:15 --> 1:49:17 Lower lower michigan. Yeah 1483 1:49:18 --> 1:49:20 Having a non-seasonally warm winter 1484 1:49:22 --> 1:49:25 Oh cold summer. Yeah. Yeah, definitely 1485 1:49:25 --> 1:49:27 Although today it's gotten cooler 1486 1:49:28 --> 1:49:30 All right. Thanks. Yeah 1487 1:49:30 --> 1:49:34 So thank you tom, so are you going to create a newspaper in america tom? 1488 1:49:36 --> 1:49:38 Do it 1489 1:49:40 --> 1:49:42 I do know I like I said I 1490 1:49:42 --> 1:49:47 It sounds like you are depending on volunteers once it gets out of the warehouse, right? 1491 1:49:47 --> 1:49:54 And that's that network can be reused for other things because you've established friendly. Um 1492 1:49:55 --> 1:49:58 Relationships, so I would imagine you could other people 1493 1:49:59 --> 1:50:05 Could possibly share that network, you know to put up flyers and you know shops that allow like, uh, 1494 1:50:05 --> 1:50:09 Your paper probably wouldn't allow flyers for example, right? Yeah 1495 1:50:10 --> 1:50:12 Yeah, exactly. Maybe we should 1496 1:50:13 --> 1:50:17 Maybe we should get to get interested in forming a newspaper 1497 1:50:18 --> 1:50:22 In the united states and then they will sell him to send him to prison next time 1498 1:50:22 --> 1:50:27 So jerome coursey he's a phd on on the course, um, he's a brilliant guy 1499 1:50:28 --> 1:50:31 And he stopped the rusher gate investigate muller investigation 1500 1:50:32 --> 1:50:35 By they were they were angling for a plea deal 1501 1:50:36 --> 1:50:43 from uh for jerome they wanted they wanted him to accept a plea deal and then they wouldn't send him to prison 1502 1:50:44 --> 1:50:48 But if he didn't accept it then they would send him to prison that was the message so 1503 1:50:48 --> 1:50:52 If he didn't accept it then they would send him to prison that was the message so 1504 1:50:52 --> 1:50:54 Guess what jerome said? 1505 1:50:54 --> 1:50:56 I will not lie before god 1506 1:50:57 --> 1:51:01 Even if I have to go to prison for the rest of my life and guess what they didn't indict him 1507 1:51:02 --> 1:51:03 Isn't that a great story? 1508 1:51:03 --> 1:51:08 You stand straight you stand stand tall for the for the right thing do the right thing for the right reasons 1509 1:51:08 --> 1:51:10 No matter what the end it's absolutely 1510 1:51:11 --> 1:51:16 It's the exact opposite of the ends justify the means and then when you do that even your enemies respect you 1511 1:51:18 --> 1:51:24 Yeah, so uh police the police that will be coming to arrest you and bring you cups of tea and all the rest of it 1512 1:51:25 --> 1:51:31 They're always violent on the streets. So when you get in the death sergeants, you know, it's it's always a good crack as it were 1513 1:51:31 --> 1:51:33 the other day and 1514 1:51:34 --> 1:51:38 You know nobody should fear being arrested by the police for doing the right thing 1515 1:51:38 --> 1:51:42 Nobody should fear being in prison for for the rest of their lives because people don't know i don't know 1516 1:51:43 --> 1:51:46 But i'm one of the three doctors who changed the narrative. Um 1517 1:51:47 --> 1:51:54 About david kelly's death. So everybody in the uk thought that it was um suicide because that's what they were pushing out 1518 1:51:55 --> 1:52:01 And along come three doctors who never met each other. We were put together by a woman called roena thursby 1519 1:52:02 --> 1:52:05 Who got an intermediary to contact us individually? 1520 1:52:06 --> 1:52:08 So she had noticed brilliantly 1521 1:52:08 --> 1:52:14 That these three doctors what I was one of them around the world were writing roughly the same thing 1522 1:52:15 --> 1:52:20 About david kelly's death. There was no inquest. I was particularly interested in no inquest 1523 1:52:21 --> 1:52:26 And we changed public opinion and people used to come up to me all the time and say oh steven, you know 1524 1:52:27 --> 1:52:29 You shouldn't do this 1525 1:52:29 --> 1:52:34 It's too dangerous. I say look, I don't have a choice. I have to do it. I have to do it 1526 1:52:34 --> 1:52:41 I'm very interested in it. I'm not doing anything illegal. And if they want to destroy my life, let them go ahead 1527 1:52:41 --> 1:52:43 I didn't fear 1528 1:52:43 --> 1:52:47 I just had to do it and I was very very interested in it 1529 1:52:47 --> 1:52:50 And of course, you know what happens when you're extremely interested 1530 1:52:52 --> 1:53:00 You get super human powers and some of the stuff that we produced we were really into it and we did incredibly well, but 1531 1:53:00 --> 1:53:02 We didn't plan it. Uh 1532 1:53:03 --> 1:53:08 We just didn't I did say we need to put we had six letters published in the guardian 1533 1:53:09 --> 1:53:14 And one in the new statesman and after the new statesman letter was published 1534 1:53:15 --> 1:53:21 All saying that essentially they needed an inquest and that david kelly's suicide had not been proved by lord hutton 1535 1:53:22 --> 1:53:27 And they didn't know what we published everything every damn thing was published that we ever uttered 1536 1:53:28 --> 1:53:35 And they couldn't deal with us because and they lost control of the story and eventually now people say oh he was bumped off 1537 1:53:35 --> 1:53:37 But before we spoke up 1538 1:53:38 --> 1:53:42 He'd been killed he he'd committed suicide, but he hadn't committed suicide 1539 1:53:42 --> 1:53:48 So three people three people yeah, but we had the same thing people saying oh steven you shouldn't be saying that, you know 1540 1:53:48 --> 1:53:51 It's dangerous for you and no 1541 1:53:51 --> 1:53:55 No, we had to do it and then I imagine you have the same mindset 1542 1:53:58 --> 1:54:03 It's your moment you need to do it so and more people need to understand that 1543 1:54:04 --> 1:54:08 Absolutely, don't be afraid of the consequences if you're doing the right thing for the right absolutely 1544 1:54:08 --> 1:54:15 They were terrified of us in the end. I realized it we got lawyers involved. We got brilliant lawyers involved and um 1545 1:54:16 --> 1:54:19 They just couldn't do anything without us publishing everything 1546 1:54:20 --> 1:54:22 And we really thought about everything we said 1547 1:54:23 --> 1:54:26 Anyway, so it's a great story. I maybe I can write it 1548 1:54:27 --> 1:54:29 There's an article there 1549 1:54:29 --> 1:54:32 Yes, I was thinking we've never directly covered 1550 1:54:32 --> 1:54:33 David kelly's death 1551 1:54:33 --> 1:54:38 so if you want to if you want to do an article on it and you know how how you change the you know what I mean because 1552 1:54:38 --> 1:54:45 Inspiring stories like that will will motivate people. I was saying, you know three of you three people. That's it three people 1553 1:54:47 --> 1:54:50 With regard to david kelly and the iraq war and 1554 1:54:50 --> 1:54:54 So i'm in contact with a brilliant british doctor now who is from iraq 1555 1:54:55 --> 1:54:57 And he knew me from iraq 1556 1:54:58 --> 1:55:01 Or at least through his father who's iraqi, of course 1557 1:55:01 --> 1:55:06 And so but I didn't know him but he's one of my best friends now carrom sosa 1558 1:55:07 --> 1:55:12 Wonderful. He's a great guy. So anyway, diana maria henry is 1559 1:55:13 --> 1:55:16 Next oh, i'm not sure she's there. Oh, yes. Yes 1560 1:55:18 --> 1:55:23 Yeah, I thank you. I just wanted to uh to hear the website or get the website name 1561 1:55:24 --> 1:55:26 okay, thank you 1562 1:55:27 --> 1:55:34 the light paper dot co dot uk the light paper dot co dot uk 1563 1:55:35 --> 1:55:38 I did see a request to see the website go really slowly 1564 1:55:39 --> 1:55:44 And so thanks for that opportunity to say it and everything you want to do is on there and everything on there 1565 1:55:44 --> 1:55:49 Has been suggested by people though. Oh, can you do this? Can we do that? Can we want to do this? 1566 1:55:49 --> 1:55:53 Can we do that? Yeah, absolutely great. Get it all on there's also a whole bunch of downloads on there 1567 1:55:53 --> 1:55:57 As well as every back issue. There's all the sensor spreads which work great as memes 1568 1:55:57 --> 1:55:59 on various different subjects 1569 1:55:59 --> 1:56:04 And you know, there's lots of other stuff on there as well. So, um, yeah help yourself. It's free 1570 1:56:07 --> 1:56:08 Yeah 1571 1:56:08 --> 1:56:13 So darren, I think this is one of the problems of a lot of very able human beings 1572 1:56:13 --> 1:56:16 They manage to convince themselves that they can't make a difference 1573 1:56:18 --> 1:56:24 And it's not true. You can become an expert. It was a great surprise to me that I heard from 1574 1:56:25 --> 1:56:30 A third party that the Daily Mail regarded me as the world expert on david kelly by the end 1575 1:56:31 --> 1:56:35 But and I thought about it. I thought that can't be but then 1576 1:56:36 --> 1:56:43 I thought I somehow thought that experts were created that they just arrived, you know, but you can make yourself an expert 1577 1:56:45 --> 1:56:47 You can go back to school at anything you want 1578 1:56:47 --> 1:56:53 And while we have the free access of the internet and everybody else's thoughts and ideas and knowledge and experience 1579 1:56:54 --> 1:56:59 Use it and and you know use it for the things that you're drawn to and most interesting like what should have happened 1580 1:56:59 --> 1:57:04 When you were six or ten in school in the first place, but as an adult now you can you can you know 1581 1:57:04 --> 1:57:08 Oh, well, you did this right here. Yeah, either you know start again start again 1582 1:57:08 --> 1:57:12 I can say start again every single day is an opportunity to say I can I you know 1583 1:57:13 --> 1:57:16 I can I can develop myself more can be a better version of myself. Yeah 1584 1:57:19 --> 1:57:22 One of the most important pieces of advice I can give to people 1585 1:57:23 --> 1:57:27 And maybe you would agree that this is that people need to understand what their strengths are 1586 1:57:28 --> 1:57:32 You play to your strengths you think what am I most interested in? 1587 1:57:32 --> 1:57:34 What am I best at? 1588 1:57:34 --> 1:57:36 and and then 1589 1:57:36 --> 1:57:38 You really motor them 1590 1:57:39 --> 1:57:43 But a lot of people are trying to do things that they're not suited for because they want to copy someone else 1591 1:57:44 --> 1:57:51 Instead of relying on their own instincts as to what they should do in the particular situation in which they find themselves and then 1592 1:57:52 --> 1:57:58 Single-mindedly pursuing their vision if they have any you know, because some people are creative 1593 1:57:59 --> 1:58:01 And but they need to trust their instincts 1594 1:58:02 --> 1:58:07 And then let the creativity take over. Um, that's the real awakening 1595 1:58:07 --> 1:58:08 sure 1596 1:58:08 --> 1:58:14 understanding the truth about the world and the mechanisms and all the rest of it is reasonably easy to do to be honest, but 1597 1:58:15 --> 1:58:19 Understanding that the deception you've been told about yourself and the limits to your abilities 1598 1:58:19 --> 1:58:21 Absolutely 1599 1:58:24 --> 1:58:26 Throw it all out be a child again 1600 1:58:26 --> 1:58:30 Although with adult adult experiences and resources and skills and all their own networks and everything else 1601 1:58:30 --> 1:58:34 They do all the advantages that you've got but be a child again and go I want to do this 1602 1:58:34 --> 1:58:37 I once spoke with a sweet shop. Absolutely 1603 1:58:38 --> 1:58:44 You know, and that's what you did. I want to farm cows. I want to provide I want to provide meat or milk or whatever 1604 1:58:44 --> 1:58:49 You know, whatever it is you draw onto honestly, there are no rules there's no rules to life 1605 1:58:49 --> 1:58:56 Oh in your case, darren you thought I want to do a newspaper and you did it to your great credit 1606 1:58:56 --> 1:59:01 But you had to do it alone is interestingly because I don't think you can make 1607 1:59:01 --> 1:59:05 You can make a a difference a real difference 1608 1:59:06 --> 1:59:10 In a committee making committee decisions, you know, so you have to kind of 1609 1:59:10 --> 1:59:14 So you have to trust your instincts and follow um 1610 1:59:15 --> 1:59:21 Slavishly almost and just bat everybody away who's saying oh, I wouldn't do it like that 1611 1:59:22 --> 1:59:28 You end up doing nothing then because everybody's saying oh, yeah, you know, you're not as good as you think you are whatever, you know 1612 1:59:29 --> 1:59:31 Okay. Well 1613 1:59:31 --> 1:59:32 You understand what I mean? 1614 1:59:32 --> 1:59:35 Take a swing and don't mind missing, you know what I mean? Correct 1615 1:59:35 --> 1:59:37 Again as a child 1616 1:59:37 --> 1:59:42 You don't care about that. You don't care about falling over on the football field. You're gonna get up and have another go 1617 1:59:42 --> 1:59:44 You know what I mean? 1618 1:59:45 --> 1:59:47 So, um 1619 1:59:49 --> 1:59:55 You know we care more about how we're perceived than actually doing doing the right things, you know what? 1620 1:59:56 --> 1:59:59 What will happen if such and such well 1621 1:59:59 --> 2:00:04 There is a time to keep your cars close to your chest and stay in the beast and stay in the system if it's if it's 1622 2:00:04 --> 2:00:06 You know advantageous in some way what have you but 1623 2:00:07 --> 2:00:11 It's very very hard to stay in for a long time if you're awake because you have to you know 1624 2:00:11 --> 2:00:16 Keep your mouth shut about a whole bunch of stuff, but you can also obviously be a dissident inside the system 1625 2:00:18 --> 2:00:23 It's for everybody, you know what I mean? It's for everybody to take their own individual path 1626 2:00:23 --> 2:00:28 And discovering they really are what they can bring to the table to help wake people up and help resist 1627 2:00:28 --> 2:00:32 And because at the end of the day, it's all about personal transformation. You go from being a slave in fear 1628 2:00:33 --> 2:00:34 and 1629 2:00:34 --> 2:00:35 you know 1630 2:00:35 --> 2:00:39 From from you know from crisis to crisis really, you know 1631 2:00:40 --> 2:00:43 It's really nice being awake and watching having the news go on 1632 2:00:43 --> 2:00:47 It's like being neo in the matrix and the news is going on there whatever they're coming out with, you know 1633 2:00:48 --> 2:00:53 It's on stage. It's on the show. Yeah, the more you watch the less you'll know. So, you know 1634 2:00:54 --> 2:00:59 Just let let them do let them do their thing if it needs comments on like the like the the provoked riots 1635 2:01:00 --> 2:01:02 And we did a nice timeline 1636 2:01:02 --> 2:01:06 And you know showing how people have just been played and provoked and manipulated, you know 1637 2:01:06 --> 2:01:09 I mean by the media and by the by the government 1638 2:01:10 --> 2:01:10 and 1639 2:01:10 --> 2:01:14 And you know if emotions are running high then then I will try and you know 1640 2:01:14 --> 2:01:17 delve into the situation and try and show people 1641 2:01:18 --> 2:01:21 Why and what you know how they're being manipulated, you know 1642 2:01:23 --> 2:01:27 So darren you'll be you'll be very interested to know that when I was doing that work with the david kelly thing 1643 2:01:27 --> 2:01:31 And it went on for the battle went on the war went on for about six years 1644 2:01:31 --> 2:01:34 But it was very enjoyable. I was really into it big time 1645 2:01:34 --> 2:01:38 And so were my two colleagues from one was from south africa 1646 2:01:38 --> 2:01:43 I never met him and the other was from devon in the united kingdom. I never met him either. I have done i've met him 1647 2:01:44 --> 2:01:48 since um, several times but not the south african doctor his name was senate searl 1648 2:01:49 --> 2:01:52 And uh, he was an anesthetist in south africa 1649 2:01:53 --> 2:01:55 And uh, we're forever joined in combat 1650 2:01:56 --> 2:02:01 So and david helping was in north devon and me in north wales 1651 2:02:02 --> 2:02:06 and um, but at the time I was working as a doctor for the military 1652 2:02:06 --> 2:02:08 During the whole period 1653 2:02:08 --> 2:02:15 Right, so so I knew I knew that they wouldn't kind of I mean as far as one can know that they wouldn't murder me 1654 2:02:15 --> 2:02:17 to silence me 1655 2:02:17 --> 2:02:21 Because I I had a lot of military officer friends. Um, and um 1656 2:02:22 --> 2:02:23 You know 1657 2:02:23 --> 2:02:26 As he just caused a huge problem, which is why I've really got to sign off guys 1658 2:02:26 --> 2:02:31 But um why you know a lot of the false flags are you know, a lot of people don't die in them at all 1659 2:02:31 --> 2:02:37 You know people go. Oh, well, you know who would do that? Well anybody for a 400 000 pound go for me go for my kitty 1660 2:02:37 --> 2:02:38 and 1661 2:02:38 --> 2:02:45 Uh, you know, I could honestly I can talk for hours and hours and hours on lots and lots of different subjects 1662 2:02:45 --> 2:02:48 But um, yeah, i'm gonna have to get my i'm gonna have to get a head down because I've got three 1663 2:02:48 --> 2:02:53 Yeah, three huge projects on at the moment my my message to everybody is 1664 2:02:54 --> 2:02:59 And be be more you and be the best version of yourself possibly your own competition yourself 1665 2:02:59 --> 2:03:01 and and 1666 2:03:01 --> 2:03:04 Uh, you are far more powerful and capable than anybody ever taught you know 1667 2:03:04 --> 2:03:06 I am living proof of that 1668 2:03:06 --> 2:03:11 I was working for royal mail driving about in 2018 and now i'm a national truth paper or a national newspaper 1669 2:03:11 --> 2:03:15 Um, and it's um fighting for the truth is a hell of a lot of fun 1670 2:03:16 --> 2:03:22 I've got to say it's hard work and all the rest of but it's fun because this is the best job i've ever ever had 1671 2:03:22 --> 2:03:24 Absolutely. I understand that yeah 1672 2:03:25 --> 2:03:27 Thank you so much for coming on 1673 2:03:29 --> 2:03:34 And I noted i've noted that you've done an incredible thing 1674 2:03:34 --> 2:03:37 But you're very humble about it and that's really great 1675 2:03:38 --> 2:03:44 Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. God bless you everybody. Good night. Good night 1676 2:03:44 --> 2:03:49 See you soon or wherever you are across the world. Yes. Okay. Bye. Bye