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the new movie by Matt Guthrie and Mickey Willis?

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Ron, you've seen it?

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It's pretty narrow.

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I've heard about it, but I haven't seen it yet.

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So everybody, we need to spread the word on it.

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who came up with the concept, the producer of the movie,

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Mickey Willis was the director,

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and it is harrowing and we need to get the message out.

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has run a beautiful piece on what we now have to do.

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is very, very relevant to John Rappaport.

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I've been a fan of his for 15 years.

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His piece today says,

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basically his piece today says,

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we have to keep fighting and fighting,

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here's a part of the quote from the piece,

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we have to expose the deepest crimes of the enemy.

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We have to launch and keep launching wave after wave

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of attacks, some of which lead to prosecutions.

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It has to be allowed no holes barred war.

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You make evil what it is, evil.

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And you put that on full display.

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You put names and faces on that evil.

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You shatter in hundreds of different ways,

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the public trust in medical and in doctors,

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not because you're crazy, but because you're right.

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So, and then he refers that to what Bobby Kennedy has to do.

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and Charles, I'm confident

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what you're gonna share with us today

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is going to be relevant to us girding our loins

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and going hard and not thinking we're winning this.

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No, because they've got endless resources.

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Yeah, so follow the silence.

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I urge everyone here and everyone watching the recording

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to watch that documentary.

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Anna Mahalcha who's presented to us on one or two occasions,

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she's announced she's ceasing publication of substacks.

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or on her substacks she announced that.

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she's not going out in the public.

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And on the climate fraud,

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it was interesting to see that the leader

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of the conservatives in the UK has called on Kia Stama

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to say, it's time we stop pretending

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that net zero can happen.

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It's time we stop pretending.

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In other words, we're pretending, we know we're pretending.

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It's time we stop pretending.

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And Willie Soon has done an excellent piece

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on sharing the grok analysis of the climate fraud,

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the climate terrorists.

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And what we learned last week was very good.

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There is no climate emergency,

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there are climate fraudsters about,

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and there are climate terrorists about,

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whose weapons, who can remember what the weapons

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of the climate terrorists are?

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The weapons of the climate terrorists,

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which is a great metaphor, are lies.

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The weapons of the climate terrorists are lies.

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So, have a look at the grok.

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I'll put the link into the chat,

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but it was a wonderful, wonderful piece,

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and I've been following it for a long time, since 1992.

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but there is no climate emergency.

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All right, now, Charles, I've made you a co-host,

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I'm gonna introduce you,

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we want you to go as hard as you like,

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we don't want you to pull back,

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so it's great to have everybody here,

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we've got an excellent audience,

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so let's get this show on the road,

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and Mark, you had a quick question?

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I've posted a link to Ryan Cole's very good little clip

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about Idaho, and I urge everyone to see it,

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because they are putting a bill through,

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and he's hoping it will get through,

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if it doesn't get through,

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he is proposing to run as governor.

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for that piece of information, very relevant.

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All right, so welcome everybody to today's meeting

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of Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International,

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and I just want you all to know at the top of the show,

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who's the coolest, here's the quick question of the day,

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who's the coolest doctor in the hospital?

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The HIP Consultant, there you are,

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there's your dad joke for all you dads and grandfathers.

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So this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost

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over almost four years ago,

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with a desire to pursue truth, ethics,

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justice, freedom, and health.

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Stephen has stood up against government and power

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over the years, and has been a whistleblower and activist,

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his medical specialty is radiology.

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again, which is done previously,

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we remember Rainer Formick, German and US lawyer,

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who's currently in German prison undergoing a show trial

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by corrupt and unlawful actions by the German government,

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whatever you can do to shine a light on Rainer's plight

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is much appreciated.

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And some of you will not have caught up

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that Anna de Buissere, UK lawyer,

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died in December last year, very sadly,

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and we also remember her.

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I'm Charles Coviss, the moderator of this group.

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I practiced law for 20 years before changing career,

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31 years ago, and over the last 14 years,

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I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies

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for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice.

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Bad medical advice is now the number one cause of death

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in America, ahead of cancer, ahead of heart attacks,

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ahead of diabetes.

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I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company.

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I point out that, I know we'll keep,

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we comprise lots of professions here

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and we're from all around the world.

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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.

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Now, many of us, including me, proudly say,

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yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers.

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I refer you to the evidence given by Dr. Stanley Plotkin,

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the alleged father of childhood vaccines in the US,

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who was deposed by Aaron Ciri.

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This is reported by Dale Bigtree in the High Wire,

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nine hour deposition, where Stanley Plotkin admitted

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that no vaccine ever in history has ever been properly tested

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for safety and efficacy.

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So anyone who says that vaccines are safe and effective

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If this is your first time here, welcome,

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and feel free to introduce yourself in the chat

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and where you're from.

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If you publish a newsletter or a podcast,

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put the links into the chat so we can follow you,

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promote you and find you.

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Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III

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and that the medical science battle

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is only one of 12 battlefronts of this latest World War.

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The spiritual battlefront is another of those battlefronts

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and there's no time to be tied.

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I assess we're five years into a seven year war,

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so look after your health and get ready

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for another two years at least, and it might be five years.

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Be up for the fight.

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Most of us understand the development of science

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and that the science is never settled.

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The meeting runs for two and a half hours

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after which for those with the time,

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Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting.

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Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join.

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We will listen to our guest presenter, Dr. Charles Hoff

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from British Columbia, Canada,

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for as long as Charles wishes to speak.

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Stephen Frost, by long established tradition,

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asked the first questions for 15 minutes.

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Charles has spoken to us before

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and his previous presentations are available

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on the Rumble channel.

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It is salutary to watch that,

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but it's probably, you know, start with this one,

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but then go back and look at the journey

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that Charles has been on.

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This is a free speech environment

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with appropriate moderating.

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Free speech is crucially important in our fight

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to preserve our human freedoms.

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If you're offended by anything, be offended.

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We are lovingly not interested.

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We reject the offence industry

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that requires nobody to say anything

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that may offend another.

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Similarly, we reject the triggering industry,

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both the offence industry and the triggering industry

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are both attempts to shut down your free speech.

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However, we come with an attitude

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and perspective of love, not fear.

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Fear is the opposite of love.

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Fear squashes you and enslaves you.

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Love, on the other hand, expands you and liberates you.

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These twice weekly meetings are not just talkfests

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and extraordinary range of actions and initiatives

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If you have a solution or a product

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or links or resources that will help people,

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put the details into the chat.

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and is uploaded onto the Rumble channel.

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And now welcome to our guest presenter, Dr. Charles Hoff.

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And we thank you, Charles, for again,

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giving us your time, wisdom and insights

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and for the purposes of the recording,

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those who didn't receive the invitation.

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I will read out a short bio of Charles.

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Charles, he's a South African-trained general practitioner

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working in British Columbia, Canada.

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Charles was an early whistleblower

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in the COVID vaccine rollout,

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who attempted to alert the authorities and the public

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to the serious side effects,

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which he saw in his own patients.

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to the safety signals were met with denial,

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censorship and threats from the medical authorities,

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who called any mention of vaccine injuries,

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quote, misinformation, end quote.

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Charles was given a gag order by the health authorities

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and suspended as an emergency room physician

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his wife initiated aggressive litigation against him.

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and Surgeons has employed every devious

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which is just wonderful news.

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Charles Hoff's experiences during the COVID pandemic

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reveal a deep-seated corruption in Canadian public health.

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by captured government institutions.

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of courageous perseverance in the face of evil,

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the power of truth and the faithfulness of God.

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So wonderful to have you here, Charles.

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Thank you again, Stephen Frost, for creating this group

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and for organising Charles to speak to us today.

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Charles, we're in your hands for as long as you wish to speak.

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you have come out and said what you have about the evil

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that is controlling the medical system

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in certainly in British Columbia and Canada and Australia

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Over to you.

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So great to see you, Charles.

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Thank you so much for coming on.

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And I just remember when we first met,

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I didn't really understand then,

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but we can talk about that later.

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Thank you so much for coming on then.

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Thank you for the invitation.

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And thank you, Charles, for the kind words.

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So I think calling what has happened to every one of us

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and to every nation evil is,

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because of the difference in when time changes occurred,

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some of us logged in an hour ago

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and had a very interesting discussion

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on the spiritual aspects of this.

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And I mentioned how the Bible speaks about Satan

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as the deceiver of the nations.

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And the fact that we have seen every government

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march in lockstep to trample on the rights of its people,

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to create massive debt,

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to become the exact opposite of what governments...

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it's hard to believe what has happened.

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And the fact that every country in the world

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has followed the same demented, unscientific tyranny.

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I think the only conclusion

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that when every country in the world does the same thing

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with just minor variance,

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we have to say this is a satanic evil.

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So I wanted to talk about the capture

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of the medical establishments

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and what they have done in this medical tyranny,

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because the strongest predictor of future behavior

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is past behavior.

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to know what they're gonna do in the future.

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History repeats itself.

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and all of the different tactics

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that they used against us.

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The regulatory bodies in the UK,

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you've got the GMC, the General Medical Council.

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In Canada, we have the colleges of physicians and surgeons,

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and each province has its own college.

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And I know this name is confusing

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because it sounds like it's some sort

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of an academic institution.

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It is not.

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These are purely regulatory bodies.

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And their job is supposed to be to ensure

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that the practice of medicine is ethical and safe.

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They are supposed to protect the public.

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And just like our governments have become the opposite

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of what they're supposed to be,

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these regulatory bodies have become the opposite

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of what they're supposed to be.

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They have been, in these regulatory bodies,

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they have been, instead of ensuring that medicine

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is practiced in an ethical and safe manner,

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they have done the exact opposite.

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They have persecuted ethical doctors

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who have been concerned about patient safety,

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people like me and numerous others right across the globe.

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I'm just one of a huge army of doctors

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who have been ethical and been concerned about safety

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and have been stomped on as a result.

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But they, in Canada, the colleges, for example,

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who are supposed to ensure that the ethic

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of personal bodily autonomy, in other words,

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informed consent to nobody ever gets forced

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to have a medical treatment that they shouldn't,

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that they don't want or don't need,

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fired their own employees who wouldn't have these shots.

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So in other words, they became the exact opposite

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of what they were supposed to be.

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They persecuted those who were upholding ethics

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and patient safety and protected those

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who were doing the opposite.

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So,

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you may remember, I mean, we've seen how fear was used

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to drive this entire pandemic,

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that they started out by creating

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with this massive fear propaganda

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to make everybody terrified of this virus.

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And of course, the masks and the lockdowns

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and the social distancing and the travel,

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everything was all about fear, was all,

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and it was really all to get people ready for the shots.

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Because a lot of people didn't trust the shots,

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because it was new technology

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and it looked like it was very rushed,

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a lot of people had a lot of hesitancy about them

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because they weren't, they just didn't think

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this had been well enough checked out.

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And so their way of overcoming that vaccine hesitancy

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was to create enough fear.

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People had to be more fearful of the virus

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than they were of the vaccine

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in order to go and get vaccinated.

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And of course, we were told by people like Klaus Schwab,

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no one is safe until everyone is vaccinated.

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And so in the first year of the pandemic,

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as you remember, there were a few places in the world

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where there was an increased number of the people dying.

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But in Canada, in that first year of the pandemic,

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before there were any vaccines,

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there was no increase in the overall death rate,

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showing that there actually was no pandemic.

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Everything that used to be called flu was called COVID.

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And flu disappeared, and there was literally no increase

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in all-cause mortality in the first year

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before the vaccine rollout.

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And yet they created this massive narrative of fear,

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which was all to get people ready for this shot.

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Now it's important for people to realize

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that the United Nations had stated its intention

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to reduce the world's population to 500 million

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back in 1990 with Agenda 21.

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And they repeated that intention

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to reduce the world's population to 500 million

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in Agenda 2030, but they just moved the timeline

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to 2030.

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And five times before this pandemic,

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the World Health Organization,

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together with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

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and the United Nations, had used vaccines five times

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in the past to reduce fertility.

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And they had done it in Brazil and Mexico and India

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and in Africa.

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And I mean, I first heard about this in Kenya,

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where women were being given a tetanus vaccine

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during pregnancy that they were told

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was to protect their baby against tetanus.

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And some Christian doctors there became suspicious

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of the way this was being rolled out

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and the fact that they wanted these women

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to get repeated vaccines during this pregnancy

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to protect their infants against tetanus.

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And sent some of these vials of the vaccine

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to South Africa to be analyzed,

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where they found that the vaccine

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was literally an anti-pregnancy vaccine.

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It was to make sure that this was the last pregnancy

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that those women would ever have.

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It was an anti-beta HCG vaccine.

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So beta HCG is the hormone produced by the placenta

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that sustains the pregnancy.

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And so if you have antibodies against beta HCG,

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every time you get pregnant

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and as soon as a placenta is formed,

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your body will attack the placenta and you will miscarry.

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So they had done this to women there

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to basically render them infertile.

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And Bill Gates had boasted about the fact that he,

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well, not boasted, but he had mentioned in a speech

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that he felt that you could reduce the world's population

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by between 10 and 15% through vaccination.

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And I thought, well, that's a bit strange.

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Vaccines are supposed to preserve life

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and supposed to keep people safe.

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How do you reduce the world's population through vaccine?

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That is logically inconsistent.

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And obviously the only logical explanation

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is they have to reduce fertility.

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I mean, unless the vaccines are literally gonna kill people,

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otherwise it would be through creating infertility.

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So getting back to what happened to me,

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and so I was immediately suspicious of this vaccine

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because I knew that the fear was out of all proportion.

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Early in this pandemic,

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there was a, in the very first couple of months

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of the pandemic, there was a cruise ship

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that you might remember called the Diamond Princess.

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It was a Japanese cruise ship with 3,700 people on board.

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And in January of 2020,

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when we were just first hearing about COVID,

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somebody on that cruise ship was taken off the boat

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that was very sick and was diagnosed as having COVID.

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So this cruise ship with 3,700 people on board

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became this floating laboratory to see what would happen.

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They were told they weren't allowed to dock.

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No one was allowed to go ashore.

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They had to stay offshore.

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And we waited to watch and see what would happen

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to these 3,700 people now that there was COVID

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ripping through this boat.

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And for the first little while,

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the captain didn't really know what to do.

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And so he let the people just carry on doing

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what they did on cruise ships.

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And they were mingling and eating in the restaurants

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and doing the things that they do.

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And then after a few days, he thought,

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well, actually maybe we should get them

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to isolate in their cabins.

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And so there were a thousand crew members on this boat.

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So crew on these cruise ships

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are generally young working-aged people.

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And there were a thousand of them serving 2,700 passengers.

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And these crew worked every day to take meals,

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three meals a day to these passengers in their cabins.

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And to clean their rooms and make their beds

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and to service them with no PPE whatsoever.

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So this was a very good experiment to see

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what happens to these 1,000 crew members.

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And on these cruises, usually most of the passengers

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are older, they're often retired, often elderly.

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So the bottom line is not one single one

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of those 1,000 crew members died of COVID,

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which told us that COVID wasn't a serious risk

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for young, younger people.

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And the median age of those that did die,

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and there were seven people that died, was 82,

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which told us that COVID was primarily a risk

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to the frail elderly.

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This was all happening before this was even declared

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a pandemic, that we could get a glimpse

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as to what the real risk of this would be.

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But by the time the vaccine rollout started,

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we knew that COVID was no more dangerous than the flu

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in terms of its infection fatality rate.

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And so in my little community, I was a bit like a cruise ship.

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I was the only doctor living in this little town.

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There were other doctors that came in to help me

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with the emergency room and other things like that.

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But I was part of an email group of 18 doctors,

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nurses, and pharmacists in my community

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and adjoining communities who were all being

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informed about the vaccine rollout.

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So we were getting these group emails to tell us

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how many people had been vaccinated

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and where they were holding clinics and what was happening.

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And so I knew when the first 900 people had been vaccinated.

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And I started seeing these people coming into my clinic

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with horrible vaccine injuries.

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And initially there were all serious neurological problems.

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And so I became very alarmed about this.

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Before that, the month before,

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which was actually in March of 2021,

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I had, when the AstraZeneca shot was shut down in Europe,

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and once 12 countries in Europe had stopped giving

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the AstraZeneca shot because of life-threatening blood clots,

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and Trudeau had ordered, I think, 60 million doses

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or some absurd amount and was dishing them out

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to Canadians as fast as possible.

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I sent an email to those 18 doctors, nurses,

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and pharmacists in my little sub-community

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who were actually giving these shots.

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Because I had said right from the start,

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I will be an observer.

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I am not gonna give any of these shots

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because I do not believe that there's any evidence

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for their safety.

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So I will watch.

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But I was still getting the email.

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So my little community was like a cruise ship

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where I knew how many people had been vaccinated.

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And I was the only doctor that lived in that town.

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So I saw most people and knew what their issues were.

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And so I was uniquely situated,

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literally within a couple of months,

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to be able to work out that the rate

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of serious life-altering vaccine injuries

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in the first 900 people that had been vaccinated

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was one in 225.

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So when I initially sent an email

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to this group of 18 people saying,

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12 countries in Europe have shut down AstraZeneca.

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This is a serious safety signal.

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The fact that they are still dishing it out to Canadians

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as fast as possible is irresponsible.

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We need to take note of this.

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And I pointed out to these people

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that there is a personal liability issue

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to any medical professional who gives any medical treatment

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without informing the person of the known risks.

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And I just said to them, just be aware of this.

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There's a safety signal and you are personally liable.

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So somebody in that group sent that email to the authorities

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and I was immediately given a gag order.

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I was told I was not allowed to say anything negative

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about these shots.

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Now they said, look,

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we can't control what you say everywhere,

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but in the course of your work as a doctor

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and in the emergency room,

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you are not allowed to say anything negative

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about these shots,

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which effectively means you can't give informed consent.

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If you're not allowed to tell a patient

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what the risks of a procedure or a treatment are,

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you can't give informed consent.

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But this was my gag order.

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And I was told that if I had any questions,

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I was not to address them to my colleagues.

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They had to go to the medical health officer

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who was in charge of the vaccine rollout.

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So when I started seeing these terrible injuries,

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I wrote to this medical health officer

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to ask her how I treat them.

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I said to her, please tell me what disease process

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has been initiated in these people

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because I have no idea what the diagnosis is

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and I don't know how to treat it.

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She sent this letter to the College of Physicians and Surgeons

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as a complaint against me.

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The fact that I was alerting her of another safety signal,

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and it wasn't a safety signal in Europe or somewhere else,

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it was in my own patients.

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So when I got no answer from her,

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I then sent an open letter.

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Now, I've never been on social media,

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so I didn't know how to alert the public

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if you've never been on those things.

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So I decided, well, I'll just send an open letter.

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And so I drafted a letter to Dr. Bonnie Henry,

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who was our provincial health officer,

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to tell her about the rate of vaccine injuries

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that I was seeing in my patients

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and to tell her also that up until that point in the pandemic,

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we had not had to give any medical care whatsoever

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to anyone with COVID.

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Not one single person had come into our emergency room

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or into my doctor's office,

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and I had the only medical clinic in town.

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Nobody had needed treatment for COVID.

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And now we had a lot of people, we had one person dead,

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three people at that point who looked like

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they were gonna be permanently disabled,

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and they are permanently disabled, by the way,

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and there were far more vaccine injuries to come.

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That's all that I knew about.

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So I sent this to her and I said to her,

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it really appears from our personal experience

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in this little town called Lytton

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that these shots are more dangerous than COVID.

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So of course, that letter was sent to the college.

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As another complaint.

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They did not want to know about the safety signals.

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They really, really did not want to know about them

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because they saw any mention of vaccine injuries

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as misinformation.

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0:30:07 --> 0:30:09
And so, of course, Klaus Schwab had said,

608
0:30:09 --> 0:30:12
no one is safe until everyone's vaccinated.

609
0:30:12 --> 0:30:17
And most other leaders, national leaders had echoed that.

610
0:30:17 --> 0:30:19
Trudeau said, the way out of this pandemic

611
0:30:19 --> 0:30:21
is to get everyone vaccinated.

612
0:30:21 --> 0:30:23
And of course, if you want everyone to get vaccinated,

613
0:30:23 --> 0:30:25
you've got to jump on hesitancy

614
0:30:25 --> 0:30:27
and you've got to stomp on anyone

615
0:30:27 --> 0:30:29
who points out any risk of harm

616
0:30:30 --> 0:30:33
because everyone's got to be vaccinated.

617
0:30:34 --> 0:30:39
And so the college's response to my letter

618
0:30:40 --> 0:30:43
informing our provincial health officer

619
0:30:44 --> 0:30:46
of the safety signals that I was seeing

620
0:30:46 --> 0:30:50
was to send a letter to every single doctor.

621
0:30:51 --> 0:30:54
And each college did it in every province.

622
0:30:54 --> 0:30:57
So every doctor in Canada got a letter stating

623
0:30:57 --> 0:31:01
that if you speak misinformation about COVID

624
0:31:01 --> 0:31:04
or COVID vaccines, you will be investigated

625
0:31:04 --> 0:31:06
and if necessary, disciplined.

626
0:31:07 --> 0:31:10
They didn't want to know about safety signals.

627
0:31:10 --> 0:31:12
They wanted compliance.

628
0:31:13 --> 0:31:18
And any talk of vaccine injuries was misinformation

629
0:31:19 --> 0:31:20
because they're safe and effective.

630
0:31:23 --> 0:31:25
And so effectively, they gave a gag order

631
0:31:25 --> 0:31:27
to every doctor in Canada.

632
0:31:30 --> 0:31:35
So the response of public health to my open letter

633
0:31:35 --> 0:31:38
was to refer me to their top vaccine safety specialists

634
0:31:38 --> 0:31:41
with whom I had a telephone meeting.

635
0:31:41 --> 0:31:44
And so I asked this doctor the same questions.

636
0:31:44 --> 0:31:47
Please tell me what is the disease process

637
0:31:47 --> 0:31:50
that has been initiated by these shots?

638
0:31:50 --> 0:31:52
How do I get to a diagnosis?

639
0:31:52 --> 0:31:54
I don't know what to even call these diseases

640
0:31:54 --> 0:31:59
that I'm seeing and how do I treat it?

641
0:31:59 --> 0:32:01
And she said, these are not from the vaccine.

642
0:32:01 --> 0:32:04
These are all coincidences.

643
0:32:04 --> 0:32:07
And so I said, but then so what do I do?

644
0:32:07 --> 0:32:09
So she said, well, you just have

645
0:32:09 --> 0:32:11
to submit vaccine injury reports.

646
0:32:12 --> 0:32:13
So I said, well, if I submit vaccine injury reports,

647
0:32:13 --> 0:32:15
will this initiate an investigation

648
0:32:15 --> 0:32:17
to find out what these shots are doing?

649
0:32:17 --> 0:32:20
She said, no, these will become statistics.

650
0:32:21 --> 0:32:25
And I said to her, but I have tried three major

651
0:32:25 --> 0:32:28
tertiary hospitals around my area to try

652
0:32:28 --> 0:32:31
and find a neurologist who will investigate.

653
0:32:31 --> 0:32:33
And at that point, I had six seriously injured people

654
0:32:33 --> 0:32:35
because they were racking up every day.

655
0:32:35 --> 0:32:37
I said, I've got six people who need

656
0:32:37 --> 0:32:39
to urgently see a neurologist

657
0:32:39 --> 0:32:42
and I cannot find any neurologist that will see them.

658
0:32:42 --> 0:32:45
As soon as I mentioned on the phone

659
0:32:45 --> 0:32:47
that this is from the COVID vaccine,

660
0:32:47 --> 0:32:51
the person literally goes dead quiet on the phone.

661
0:32:51 --> 0:32:53
And then they say, this is not my field.

662
0:32:53 --> 0:32:56
I think you should try somewhere else.

663
0:32:56 --> 0:32:58
Nobody, this was a sacred cow.

664
0:32:58 --> 0:33:03
This was sacred ground when no one would tread.

665
0:33:04 --> 0:33:08
And so I said to this vaccine safety specialist,

666
0:33:08 --> 0:33:11
will you assist me to find a neurologist

667
0:33:11 --> 0:33:14
who will do an urgent assessment of these six people?

668
0:33:14 --> 0:33:19
And she said, no, you need to just keep trying.

669
0:33:20 --> 0:33:22
And her advice was, I said, but as soon as they hear

670
0:33:22 --> 0:33:25
it's from the vaccine, they don't wanna know about it.

671
0:33:26 --> 0:33:29
And she said, well, don't tell them it's from the vaccine.

672
0:33:31 --> 0:33:34
This was literally, I mean, I couldn't believe it.

673
0:33:34 --> 0:33:37
They didn't want to know about safety signals.

674
0:33:37 --> 0:33:40
So I started submitting vaccine injury reports.

675
0:33:40 --> 0:33:42
And after the first six,

676
0:33:45 --> 0:33:49
and of course they embarked on a publicity campaign

677
0:33:49 --> 0:33:51
to completely discredit me

678
0:33:51 --> 0:33:53
because this open letter had gone viral

679
0:33:53 --> 0:33:56
and it had reached doctors for COVID ethics,

680
0:33:56 --> 0:33:58
but it had caused a stir in our community.

681
0:33:58 --> 0:34:02
And so they were doing press releases

682
0:34:02 --> 0:34:03
and all sorts of things saying

683
0:34:03 --> 0:34:05
that what I was saying was untrue,

684
0:34:05 --> 0:34:07
that everything that I said was unfounded

685
0:34:08 --> 0:34:12
and in other words, they embarked on a campaign

686
0:34:12 --> 0:34:13
to discredit me.

687
0:34:13 --> 0:34:14
They were calling me a liar.

688
0:34:14 --> 0:34:17
I had been the family doctor to the people

689
0:34:17 --> 0:34:21
and the patients in my community at that point for 28 years.

690
0:34:21 --> 0:34:22
I had delivered their babies.

691
0:34:22 --> 0:34:25
I had cared for members of their family

692
0:34:25 --> 0:34:28
through every stage of life from birth to death.

693
0:34:28 --> 0:34:30
And they trusted me implicitly.

694
0:34:31 --> 0:34:34
I had been there for them in their darkest hour.

695
0:34:34 --> 0:34:36
And now the authorities were telling them

696
0:34:36 --> 0:34:39
I'm a liar and a spreader of misinformation.

697
0:34:40 --> 0:34:42
That was their response for me

698
0:34:42 --> 0:34:45
trying to keep my patients safe,

699
0:34:47 --> 0:34:50
was to embark on this campaign of slander against me

700
0:34:50 --> 0:34:51
to discredit me.

701
0:34:54 --> 0:34:58
But fortunately, I had been put in touch

702
0:34:58 --> 0:35:00
with doctors for COVID ethics.

703
0:35:00 --> 0:35:03
And I met Stephen Frost and Michael Palmer

704
0:35:03 --> 0:35:07
and Suturit Bagdi and other amazing people.

705
0:35:07 --> 0:35:09
And I think doctors for COVID,

706
0:35:09 --> 0:35:14
this was in April, I think, or maybe May of 2021.

707
0:35:14 --> 0:35:16
And I think doctors for COVID ethics

708
0:35:16 --> 0:35:18
it was just in its formative,

709
0:35:18 --> 0:35:22
there were usually about 30 people on the meetings.

710
0:35:22 --> 0:35:27
And they had seen this open letter

711
0:35:28 --> 0:35:31
and were very interested in these neurological injuries

712
0:35:31 --> 0:35:32
that I was reporting

713
0:35:32 --> 0:35:36
because apparently I was the first doctor they said

714
0:35:36 --> 0:35:41
to have ever drawn attention to the neurological harm

715
0:35:41 --> 0:35:42
from the Moderna vaccine.

716
0:35:42 --> 0:35:45
Because that was the one that my patients got,

717
0:35:45 --> 0:35:47
almost all of them got Moderna.

718
0:35:49 --> 0:35:52
And I didn't know at that point,

719
0:35:52 --> 0:35:55
but now with the wisdom of hindsight,

720
0:35:56 --> 0:35:58
my patients were allocated

721
0:35:58 --> 0:36:01
the second most dangerous Moderna batch

722
0:36:01 --> 0:36:02
that was used in BC.

723
0:36:03 --> 0:36:06
And so I didn't know whether other doctors

724
0:36:06 --> 0:36:08
were just not seeing it,

725
0:36:08 --> 0:36:13
but my cruise ship, my little community,

726
0:36:14 --> 0:36:16
just by the sovereignty of God,

727
0:36:16 --> 0:36:18
got the second most dangerous,

728
0:36:18 --> 0:36:20
the batch that caused the second highest rate

729
0:36:20 --> 0:36:22
of vaccine injuries.

730
0:36:22 --> 0:36:24
And so I believe that,

731
0:36:24 --> 0:36:26
and initially when this started,

732
0:36:26 --> 0:36:27
I was away on holiday,

733
0:36:27 --> 0:36:29
I went to South Africa to visit my family

734
0:36:29 --> 0:36:31
and I wasn't even there to see what was happening,

735
0:36:31 --> 0:36:33
but there were other doctors in the practice

736
0:36:33 --> 0:36:34
who were seeing these injuries

737
0:36:34 --> 0:36:36
and just recording it in the patient's file

738
0:36:36 --> 0:36:38
and moving on and weren't saying a word.

739
0:36:38 --> 0:36:41
And when I came back and I saw what was happening,

740
0:36:41 --> 0:36:43
I was horrified.

741
0:36:43 --> 0:36:45
I was absolutely horrified.

742
0:36:45 --> 0:36:48
And so I'd been given this gag order,

743
0:36:48 --> 0:36:51
but I was not gonna comply with it.

744
0:36:51 --> 0:36:54
I knew that to comply with that gag order

745
0:36:55 --> 0:36:57
would be socially irresponsible

746
0:36:57 --> 0:37:00
and would be betraying my patients who trusted me.

747
0:37:02 --> 0:37:05
And so I was not about to keep silent.

748
0:37:05 --> 0:37:10
And I, in the course of the weekly meetings

749
0:37:10 --> 0:37:12
with Doctors for COVID Ethics,

750
0:37:12 --> 0:37:15
we had discussions about trying to figure out

751
0:37:15 --> 0:37:18
what was the mechanism of injury?

752
0:37:18 --> 0:37:22
What was the process that was being put in place

753
0:37:22 --> 0:37:25
what was the process that was being caused

754
0:37:25 --> 0:37:27
by these messenger RNA injections

755
0:37:27 --> 0:37:31
that was causing such horrible harm?

756
0:37:31 --> 0:37:35
And I think it was Sutra and Bagdi

757
0:37:35 --> 0:37:38
that came up with the idea

758
0:37:38 --> 0:37:41
that we needed to be doing D-dimer tests.

759
0:37:41 --> 0:37:44
And it was based on the idea that because we knew

760
0:37:44 --> 0:37:47
that these shots, they had chosen a delivery system

761
0:37:47 --> 0:37:50
that made sure that this messenger RNA

762
0:37:50 --> 0:37:51
went everywhere in your body.

763
0:37:52 --> 0:37:53
It wasn't like a regular vaccine

764
0:37:53 --> 0:37:57
where it just stays in your deltoid muscle of your arm.

765
0:37:57 --> 0:37:59
It was in a delivery system

766
0:37:59 --> 0:38:02
because it had to get it literally into the cell

767
0:38:02 --> 0:38:03
in order for it to work.

768
0:38:03 --> 0:38:05
It couldn't just be in a muscle.

769
0:38:05 --> 0:38:08
It had to go intracellular in order for that RNA

770
0:38:08 --> 0:38:11
to meet a ribosome to make spike proteins

771
0:38:11 --> 0:38:14
that then become part of the cell wall,

772
0:38:14 --> 0:38:18
that then trigger an antibody response

773
0:38:18 --> 0:38:19
because you've got this foreign protein

774
0:38:19 --> 0:38:23
in the cell wall to create antibodies against COVID.

775
0:38:23 --> 0:38:26
That was the idea of how it's supposed to create antibodies

776
0:38:26 --> 0:38:28
to protect you against COVID.

777
0:38:28 --> 0:38:30
Can I just interrupt, just for a second,

778
0:38:30 --> 0:38:34
it was Sutra and Bagdi, and I thought you'd missed that.

779
0:38:34 --> 0:38:37
So he got you doing D-dimers in Lytton

780
0:38:37 --> 0:38:39
in British Columbia, Canada.

781
0:38:40 --> 0:38:43
And Lytton is a town of what, 5,000?

782
0:38:43 --> 0:38:44
I think you were the first doctor in the world

783
0:38:44 --> 0:38:45
doing D-dimers.

784
0:38:46 --> 0:38:47
Yeah, yeah.

785
0:38:47 --> 0:38:52
So the idea was because we knew that these spikes

786
0:38:54 --> 0:38:57
were gonna be part of the cell wall.

787
0:38:57 --> 0:39:00
And because absorption from capillaries

788
0:39:00 --> 0:39:03
is the main place where absorb, you know, the capillary.

789
0:39:03 --> 0:39:06
Well, let me say, if this vaccine's going intravenous,

790
0:39:06 --> 0:39:09
which we knew it did,

791
0:39:09 --> 0:39:11
it's gonna be absorbed into the endothelium,

792
0:39:11 --> 0:39:13
which is the cells around blood vessels.

793
0:39:13 --> 0:39:16
And because most absorption happens in capillary networks,

794
0:39:16 --> 0:39:20
we knew most of these spike proteins were gonna end up

795
0:39:20 --> 0:39:23
in the endothelium of capillaries.

796
0:39:24 --> 0:39:27
And it was therefore absolutely inevitable

797
0:39:27 --> 0:39:28
that blood clotting would occur.

798
0:39:28 --> 0:39:31
Inevitable because the line,

799
0:39:31 --> 0:39:35
the vascular endothelium was no longer going to be smooth.

800
0:39:35 --> 0:39:37
It was going to be rough with all these spike proteins.

801
0:39:37 --> 0:39:39
And so as soon as a blood plate,

802
0:39:39 --> 0:39:42
it comes down that capillary and it hits this rough spot,

803
0:39:42 --> 0:39:43
it's gonna trigger clotting.

804
0:39:44 --> 0:39:45
It's predictable.

805
0:39:45 --> 0:39:46
It is absolute.

806
0:39:46 --> 0:39:48
I mean, if that plate, it wouldn't be doing its job

807
0:39:48 --> 0:39:49
if it didn't cause a blood clot.

808
0:39:49 --> 0:39:53
And so Suturett said,

809
0:39:53 --> 0:39:56
well, the way to find out if these clots are forming,

810
0:39:56 --> 0:39:59
because if these clots are in the capillaries,

811
0:39:59 --> 0:40:01
they're too small to show on a scan.

812
0:40:01 --> 0:40:04
They're literally on a microscopic level.

813
0:40:04 --> 0:40:06
You're not gonna see these on a CT scan

814
0:40:06 --> 0:40:08
because they're just too small.

815
0:40:08 --> 0:40:09
It's on a capillary level.

816
0:40:10 --> 0:40:13
So he suggested that we start doing these D-dimer tests.

817
0:40:14 --> 0:40:16
So a D-dimer test is a blood test

818
0:40:16 --> 0:40:18
that's done usually in an emergency room

819
0:40:18 --> 0:40:19
to see if there's some,

820
0:40:19 --> 0:40:22
if a patient has a clot somewhere in their body.

821
0:40:23 --> 0:40:25
And it'll only show a recent clot.

822
0:40:25 --> 0:40:26
It won't show an old clot.

823
0:40:28 --> 0:40:30
So I started, when my patients would come in,

824
0:40:30 --> 0:40:33
I'd say, look, I'm trying to figure out

825
0:40:33 --> 0:40:35
if these shots are causing harm.

826
0:40:35 --> 0:40:39
Would you like me to monitor your COVID vaccination?

827
0:40:39 --> 0:40:40
And I said to them,

828
0:40:40 --> 0:40:43
what I'd like to do is do this blood test

829
0:40:44 --> 0:40:46
before and after your COVID shot.

830
0:40:46 --> 0:40:48
And it's basically to get a D-dimer,

831
0:40:48 --> 0:40:50
to get a baseline for you.

832
0:40:50 --> 0:40:52
This is like your control.

833
0:40:53 --> 0:40:55
And then seven days after your shot,

834
0:40:55 --> 0:40:56
we'll do another one,

835
0:40:56 --> 0:40:59
and we'll see if there's any evidence

836
0:40:59 --> 0:41:02
of microclotting caused by these shots.

837
0:41:02 --> 0:41:04
And that was the idea, was to actually,

838
0:41:04 --> 0:41:08
and so this was being done by doctors for COVID ethics.

839
0:41:08 --> 0:41:10
And the idea was to try and get other doctors

840
0:41:11 --> 0:41:12
in other parts of the world to all do the same thing

841
0:41:12 --> 0:41:14
and to be able to compare batches

842
0:41:14 --> 0:41:16
and to compare different types of vaccines

843
0:41:16 --> 0:41:18
in different population groups

844
0:41:18 --> 0:41:21
and see what the rate of clotting really was.

845
0:41:21 --> 0:41:24
So I started doing this on my patients.

846
0:41:24 --> 0:41:28
And once I got the first eight people's blood work back,

847
0:41:28 --> 0:41:31
just eight, and five out of the eight

848
0:41:31 --> 0:41:35
had an elevated D-dimer, which works out at 62%.

849
0:41:35 --> 0:41:37
I was horrified.

850
0:41:37 --> 0:41:39
I was absolutely horrified.

851
0:41:41 --> 0:41:45
And this was supposed to be an international study,

852
0:41:45 --> 0:41:49
but I was so horrified that the majority of people

853
0:41:49 --> 0:41:51
who were getting these shots were getting blood clots.

854
0:41:51 --> 0:41:56
And the importance of this was that these were not people

855
0:41:56 --> 0:41:58
with symptoms of vaccine injuries.

856
0:41:58 --> 0:42:00
These were people who just maybe felt a bit tired

857
0:42:00 --> 0:42:03
or headache or mental fog

858
0:42:03 --> 0:42:06
or some vague pain somewhere in their body

859
0:42:06 --> 0:42:09
or some vague thing, and then thought, well, they're okay.

860
0:42:09 --> 0:42:13
That's just my body making a reaction to this vaccine.

861
0:42:14 --> 0:42:17
But they didn't realize that they were getting blood clots.

862
0:42:17 --> 0:42:21
And so the concern was that not only were the majority

863
0:42:21 --> 0:42:23
of people getting these microscopic blood clots,

864
0:42:24 --> 0:42:27
but that clotted vessels never go back to normal.

865
0:42:27 --> 0:42:28
They are permanently damaged

866
0:42:28 --> 0:42:31
and it will accumulate with every shot.

867
0:42:32 --> 0:42:35
So this was going to be a cumulative damage.

868
0:42:35 --> 0:42:38
So I had an interview scheduled

869
0:42:38 --> 0:42:41
with somebody and the people were always asking me to say,

870
0:42:41 --> 0:42:43
well, tell us, what are you seeing in your patients?

871
0:42:43 --> 0:42:44
What's the latest?

872
0:42:44 --> 0:42:46
Because no other doctors would say a word

873
0:42:46 --> 0:42:48
because they'd all been given this gag order

874
0:42:48 --> 0:42:50
about misinformation.

875
0:42:50 --> 0:42:55
And I'm not one to comply with corrupt authorities.

876
0:42:56 --> 0:43:01
So I spilled the beans on this D-dimer

877
0:43:01 --> 0:43:02
and what I was finding.

878
0:43:02 --> 0:43:05
And literally tragically,

879
0:43:05 --> 0:43:07
about I think it was nine days after that,

880
0:43:07 --> 0:43:11
we had a firestorm in this little town where I live.

881
0:43:13 --> 0:43:14
It was literally a firestorm,

882
0:43:14 --> 0:43:18
just like we've seen in Maui and in California

883
0:43:18 --> 0:43:21
and Colorado and all these,

884
0:43:21 --> 0:43:24
it was a firestorm that it wasn't a wildfire

885
0:43:24 --> 0:43:26
that came in and hit the town.

886
0:43:26 --> 0:43:28
No, it started right on the edge of town

887
0:43:28 --> 0:43:31
on a hot windy day and literally annihilated

888
0:43:31 --> 0:43:33
by medical practice and the lab

889
0:43:33 --> 0:43:36
where these tests were being done and everything.

890
0:43:36 --> 0:43:40
I mean, literally 90% of the town was leveled

891
0:43:40 --> 0:43:42
in one afternoon.

892
0:43:42 --> 0:43:45
And I literally ran out of there, grabbed my laptop,

893
0:43:45 --> 0:43:47
I grabbed my D-dimer stuff

894
0:43:49 --> 0:43:52
and lost pretty well everything else, even my stethoscope.

895
0:43:53 --> 0:43:56
And so fortunately, my house was upwind

896
0:43:56 --> 0:43:58
in a little subdivision, it wasn't quite in the town,

897
0:43:58 --> 0:44:00
so my house survived, but we were all evacuated.

898
0:44:00 --> 0:44:03
We were told this is an evacuation area,

899
0:44:03 --> 0:44:04
you have to leave.

900
0:44:04 --> 0:44:05
There was no power, there was no water,

901
0:44:05 --> 0:44:07
there was no cell signal, there was nothing.

902
0:44:07 --> 0:44:09
So we were told you've got to be out.

903
0:44:09 --> 0:44:13
So I then went to a place where I had moved my wife

904
0:44:13 --> 0:44:15
and children to a neighboring town

905
0:44:15 --> 0:44:16
about two hours drive away.

906
0:44:16 --> 0:44:20
I'd moved them there about five years before

907
0:44:20 --> 0:44:23
because my children really needed to have more opportunities

908
0:44:23 --> 0:44:25
for education and work and that sort of thing

909
0:44:25 --> 0:44:27
than they had in this little town.

910
0:44:27 --> 0:44:30
So I arrived there not knowing that my wife

911
0:44:30 --> 0:44:33
was planning to divorce me.

912
0:44:34 --> 0:44:36
And when I arrived there and she realized

913
0:44:36 --> 0:44:39
that I was now going to be staying there, not in this,

914
0:44:39 --> 0:44:41
because I would normally just go there to be with the family

915
0:44:41 --> 0:44:43
when I had my days off.

916
0:44:43 --> 0:44:48
So when I arrived there, she then put her plan into action.

917
0:44:48 --> 0:44:50
And so the next Sunday I went off to church,

918
0:44:50 --> 0:44:51
I came back from church and there was nobody else there

919
0:44:51 --> 0:44:53
except the dog.

920
0:44:53 --> 0:44:55
And I did not know where she and the children had gone.

921
0:44:55 --> 0:44:59
And a few days later, I was served with this sheaf of papers

922
0:44:59 --> 0:45:02
saying that she was not only filing for divorce,

923
0:45:02 --> 0:45:05
but she was asking for a protection order

924
0:45:05 --> 0:45:06
and a no contact order against me

925
0:45:06 --> 0:45:09
because I was going to become dangerous.

926
0:45:09 --> 0:45:11
She decided that I was gonna become dangerous

927
0:45:11 --> 0:45:12
when I found out about this

928
0:45:12 --> 0:45:15
and therefore I needed to be banished.

929
0:45:15 --> 0:45:18
So I was told that I was gonna be,

930
0:45:18 --> 0:45:21
and this again, the trial was gonna be in three days.

931
0:45:21 --> 0:45:23
That's all the warning I had.

932
0:45:24 --> 0:45:26
So of course, in three days, you can't find a lawyer.

933
0:45:28 --> 0:45:30
So I then put the word out to my patients

934
0:45:31 --> 0:45:32
who were scattered by this fire

935
0:45:32 --> 0:45:35
that I am going to have to,

936
0:45:40 --> 0:45:42
that I have to leave where I was

937
0:45:42 --> 0:45:45
and go to my little cottage up in the remote part.

938
0:45:45 --> 0:45:48
And I would try to look after them from there.

939
0:45:49 --> 0:45:52
So then this word got to the authorities

940
0:45:52 --> 0:45:54
who then sent another complaint to the college

941
0:45:54 --> 0:45:56
that I had abandoned my patients.

942
0:45:57 --> 0:45:59
So because my office had been burned

943
0:45:59 --> 0:46:01
and the post office had been burned

944
0:46:01 --> 0:46:02
and everything in the town where I lived had been burned,

945
0:46:02 --> 0:46:05
the college didn't know where to send this complaint to

946
0:46:05 --> 0:46:07
that I had abandoned my patients.

947
0:46:07 --> 0:46:09
So they phoned me up on my cell phone

948
0:46:10 --> 0:46:13
to find out where they send this complaint to.

949
0:46:13 --> 0:46:14
And actually it was one of the registrars

950
0:46:14 --> 0:46:17
of the college who phoned to say,

951
0:46:17 --> 0:46:20
and so I explained to him about this divorce

952
0:46:20 --> 0:46:23
and about this fact that my wife was trying

953
0:46:23 --> 0:46:27
to get this protection order and all of these issues.

954
0:46:27 --> 0:46:30
And he said, well, I really think it sounds like

955
0:46:30 --> 0:46:31
you're under a lot of stress.

956
0:46:31 --> 0:46:33
I think you should be taking some time off.

957
0:46:33 --> 0:46:35
You need a mental evaluation.

958
0:46:35 --> 0:46:37
You need counseling.

959
0:46:37 --> 0:46:39
I think you should just,

960
0:46:40 --> 0:46:42
and we will understand,

961
0:46:42 --> 0:46:43
we won't accuse you of abandoning your patients,

962
0:46:43 --> 0:46:47
but you need a psychiatric evaluation.

963
0:46:48 --> 0:46:49
And I said to them,

964
0:46:49 --> 0:46:52
there is nothing psychiatrically wrong with me.

965
0:46:52 --> 0:46:54
I am not anxious.

966
0:46:54 --> 0:46:56
I am not depressed.

967
0:46:56 --> 0:46:59
I am of sound mind and I do not need any time off.

968
0:46:59 --> 0:47:02
And I didn't realize that this was one of the tactics

969
0:47:02 --> 0:47:06
that they employ to sideline doctors.

970
0:47:06 --> 0:47:08
They get you to,

971
0:47:08 --> 0:47:11
they persuade you to have a mental evaluation

972
0:47:11 --> 0:47:14
and then they basically suspend you on the basis

973
0:47:14 --> 0:47:17
that you're mentally not fit to practice medicine.

974
0:47:17 --> 0:47:19
But by the grace of God,

975
0:47:19 --> 0:47:22
I was protected because I refused to have this.

976
0:47:23 --> 0:47:27
And so they weren't able to get rid of me in that way.

977
0:47:28 --> 0:47:29
But a few months later,

978
0:47:30 --> 0:47:33
in Canada, they approved these shots for children

979
0:47:33 --> 0:47:35
down to six months of age.

980
0:47:35 --> 0:47:36
And at that point,

981
0:47:36 --> 0:47:40
because I knew of the fertility problems around this,

982
0:47:40 --> 0:47:43
and I knew of this desire of the United Nations

983
0:47:43 --> 0:47:45
and the World Health Organization to,

984
0:47:47 --> 0:47:49
well, we knew they wanted to vaccinate everyone

985
0:47:49 --> 0:47:53
against a disease that wasn't a risk to everyone.

986
0:47:53 --> 0:47:55
And they were forcing children and university students

987
0:47:55 --> 0:47:58
to have these shots in order to be able to go to university

988
0:47:58 --> 0:48:01
or participate in sport and do all sorts of things.

989
0:48:01 --> 0:48:05
And so I realized that this was a depopulation tool.

990
0:48:05 --> 0:48:08
There was no other logical explanation

991
0:48:08 --> 0:48:12
for why they were so determined to vaccinate the children

992
0:48:12 --> 0:48:15
because COVID was almost no risk to children.

993
0:48:15 --> 0:48:17
In Canada, in the entire pandemic,

994
0:48:17 --> 0:48:20
we haven't had a single healthy child

995
0:48:20 --> 0:48:22
or anybody under the age of 16 that has died of COVID,

996
0:48:22 --> 0:48:23
not one.

997
0:48:23 --> 0:48:26
And yet they forced them to have these shots

998
0:48:26 --> 0:48:30
in order to be able to study or to play sport

999
0:48:30 --> 0:48:32
or to participate in life.

1000
0:48:32 --> 0:48:34
And so I went on a series of speaking tours,

1001
0:48:34 --> 0:48:36
literally with town hall meetings

1002
0:48:36 --> 0:48:39
to try and warn parents about this,

1003
0:48:39 --> 0:48:42
to basically tell them about the safety signals,

1004
0:48:42 --> 0:48:45
tell them about what I'd found with the D-diamond,

1005
0:48:45 --> 0:48:47
tell them about the fact that the Pfizer bio-distribution

1006
0:48:47 --> 0:48:50
studies showed that one of the top four destinations

1007
0:48:50 --> 0:48:55
for those messenger RNA spike proteins is ovaries,

1008
0:48:55 --> 0:48:56
top four organs.

1009
0:48:56 --> 0:48:59
And that any girl that has her ovaries damaged

1010
0:48:59 --> 0:49:02
will have permanently reduced fertility.

1011
0:49:02 --> 0:49:04
Because when a baby girl is born,

1012
0:49:04 --> 0:49:05
she is born with all of the eggs

1013
0:49:05 --> 0:49:07
that she will ever have in her life.

1014
0:49:07 --> 0:49:08
She cannot make new eggs.

1015
0:49:08 --> 0:49:11
And so if anything damages her ovaries,

1016
0:49:11 --> 0:49:13
she will have reduced fertility.

1017
0:49:15 --> 0:49:18
So this really antagonized the college.

1018
0:49:18 --> 0:49:21
The fact that I was going town to town

1019
0:49:21 --> 0:49:22
holding these meetings,

1020
0:49:22 --> 0:49:24
and because of all their COVID restrictions,

1021
0:49:24 --> 0:49:27
often they wouldn't let us into the town halls.

1022
0:49:27 --> 0:49:29
And so often we did these meetings outside

1023
0:49:29 --> 0:49:33
in the winter in Canada at sub-zero temperatures,

1024
0:49:33 --> 0:49:35
holding these meetings out in the freezing cold,

1025
0:49:36 --> 0:49:38
trying to warn people.

1026
0:49:40 --> 0:49:43
So the college then completed its investigation against me,

1027
0:49:43 --> 0:49:46
issued this citation against me,

1028
0:49:46 --> 0:49:48
but the way they did it was very telling.

1029
0:49:50 --> 0:49:53
I was sitting at my desk in February of 2022,

1030
0:49:53 --> 0:49:54
just doing my work,

1031
0:49:54 --> 0:49:56
because fortunately I still had a medical license.

1032
0:49:56 --> 0:49:58
I'd been fired from the ER

1033
0:49:58 --> 0:50:00
for telling an emergency room nurse

1034
0:50:00 --> 0:50:02
that somebody with natural immunity didn't need a shot.

1035
0:50:02 --> 0:50:04
So I'd been fired from that,

1036
0:50:04 --> 0:50:06
but I still had my medical license

1037
0:50:06 --> 0:50:07
and my practice was burned,

1038
0:50:07 --> 0:50:09
so I was just working from home.

1039
0:50:10 --> 0:50:13
And I got a phone call from a news reporter

1040
0:50:13 --> 0:50:15
from Global News in Toronto

1041
0:50:15 --> 0:50:18
that wanted my comments on the citation against me.

1042
0:50:18 --> 0:50:20
And I said, well, what citation?

1043
0:50:21 --> 0:50:23
And they said, well, don't you know

1044
0:50:23 --> 0:50:25
what the college has said about you?

1045
0:50:25 --> 0:50:27
So I said, no, I haven't a clue.

1046
0:50:27 --> 0:50:29
And I had to go to the college's website

1047
0:50:29 --> 0:50:31
and find out what they had released

1048
0:50:31 --> 0:50:33
to the media across Canada.

1049
0:50:33 --> 0:50:35
They had released it to all the mainline media

1050
0:50:35 --> 0:50:38
across Canada that I was going to be disciplined

1051
0:50:38 --> 0:50:41
for professional misconduct.

1052
0:50:41 --> 0:50:43
And of course the professional misconduct

1053
0:50:43 --> 0:50:45
was talking about vaccine injuries.

1054
0:50:45 --> 0:50:47
That was the professional misconduct.

1055
0:50:48 --> 0:50:52
And so I thought, oh boy, here they go again.

1056
0:50:52 --> 0:50:55
This was another threat, another basically,

1057
0:50:55 --> 0:51:00
it's just reinforcing the previous gag order to doctors.

1058
0:51:00 --> 0:51:02
Just keep silent because watch what we're gonna do

1059
0:51:02 --> 0:51:04
to Dr. Hoff.

1060
0:51:04 --> 0:51:07
So they set up this disciplinary panel.

1061
0:51:07 --> 0:51:12
And of course, so clearly this was not about truth.

1062
0:51:14 --> 0:51:16
This was not about safety.

1063
0:51:16 --> 0:51:21
All of the COVID restrictions that we still had

1064
0:51:21 --> 0:51:23
with masks and social distancing and all of that,

1065
0:51:23 --> 0:51:24
it was all about safety.

1066
0:51:24 --> 0:51:26
But the fact that they didn't wanna know

1067
0:51:26 --> 0:51:29
about safety signals showed that this was not about safety.

1068
0:51:29 --> 0:51:32
This definitely was not about safety.

1069
0:51:32 --> 0:51:34
This was about tyrannical control

1070
0:51:34 --> 0:51:35
and getting everyone vaccinated.

1071
0:51:38 --> 0:51:43
So I then found a lawyer and they set a date for the trial.

1072
0:51:47 --> 0:51:51
But the lawyer became sick and asked for an adjournment

1073
0:51:51 --> 0:51:53
based on his illness.

1074
0:51:54 --> 0:51:58
And the college didn't really believe that he was that sick.

1075
0:51:59 --> 0:52:02
And they actually employed a private investigator

1076
0:52:02 --> 0:52:07
to follow him for two weeks to see how sick he really was.

1077
0:52:08 --> 0:52:10
And he had applied for this adjournment.

1078
0:52:10 --> 0:52:14
And so we had not got any expert witnesses.

1079
0:52:14 --> 0:52:16
We hadn't done any preparation

1080
0:52:16 --> 0:52:18
because he kept expecting for this adjournment.

1081
0:52:18 --> 0:52:22
And he'd given them medical evidence that he'd been sick.

1082
0:52:22 --> 0:52:23
And they just never responded.

1083
0:52:25 --> 0:52:29
So by law, there's a 14-day deadline

1084
0:52:29 --> 0:52:31
that if you want to submit evidence

1085
0:52:31 --> 0:52:32
that you're gonna use in your defense,

1086
0:52:32 --> 0:52:35
you have to submit it 14 days before the trial.

1087
0:52:36 --> 0:52:39
So 14 days before the trial,

1088
0:52:39 --> 0:52:42
the college submitted the evidence of their expert witness

1089
0:52:43 --> 0:52:46
who was somebody who was employed by the province

1090
0:52:46 --> 0:52:48
who had been the right-hand man

1091
0:52:48 --> 0:52:51
of our provincial health officer, Dr. Bonnie Henry.

1092
0:52:51 --> 0:52:56
This was effectively a family doctor like myself

1093
0:52:56 --> 0:52:59
who had specialized in epidemiology and public health.

1094
0:53:00 --> 0:53:04
And so he submitted his expert testimony

1095
0:53:04 --> 0:53:09
that I think was 268 pages with 191 references.

1096
0:53:10 --> 0:53:13
And so one of their tactics clearly,

1097
0:53:13 --> 0:53:17
by giving this huge wad of information 14 days before,

1098
0:53:17 --> 0:53:19
is to sort of overwhelm you

1099
0:53:19 --> 0:53:21
so that there's no way you can process

1100
0:53:21 --> 0:53:23
this amount of information in this short time

1101
0:53:23 --> 0:53:25
and they just swamp you

1102
0:53:25 --> 0:53:28
so that you can't mountain out of good defense.

1103
0:53:28 --> 0:53:30
But meanwhile, I had no expert witnesses

1104
0:53:30 --> 0:53:32
and nothing was submitted

1105
0:53:32 --> 0:53:36
because this lawyer kept expecting an adjournment.

1106
0:53:36 --> 0:53:38
So here I was marching towards this trial

1107
0:53:38 --> 0:53:40
with absolutely no defense.

1108
0:53:42 --> 0:53:44
And so I thought I was sunk.

1109
0:53:45 --> 0:53:50
And I got on my knees and I pleaded with Almighty God

1110
0:53:50 --> 0:53:52
and I put the word out to my Christian friends.

1111
0:53:52 --> 0:53:57
I said, I'm headed to a trial with no defense.

1112
0:53:57 --> 0:54:00
My lawyer has missed all of these deadlines

1113
0:54:00 --> 0:54:01
and I am sunk.

1114
0:54:02 --> 0:54:07
Please will you pray for this disciplinary panel

1115
0:54:08 --> 0:54:10
that they will be fair.

1116
0:54:11 --> 0:54:13
Now, just talking about fair,

1117
0:54:13 --> 0:54:16
let me tell you what this disciplinary panel is.

1118
0:54:16 --> 0:54:20
The way these medical disciplinary things works

1119
0:54:20 --> 0:54:25
in Canada is, they have a doctor who is under investigation

1120
0:54:25 --> 0:54:28
or I guess the investigation had finished

1121
0:54:28 --> 0:54:30
because now they'd issued the citation.

1122
0:54:30 --> 0:54:35
The college has their team of lawyers.

1123
0:54:36 --> 0:54:38
The college appoints this disciplinary panel

1124
0:54:38 --> 0:54:40
which is like a jury.

1125
0:54:40 --> 0:54:43
There are five people who work for the college

1126
0:54:43 --> 0:54:45
and they're paid by the college

1127
0:54:45 --> 0:54:47
and they're employed for this purpose

1128
0:54:47 --> 0:54:49
to carry out this disciplinary hearing.

1129
0:54:51 --> 0:54:53
And then of course, there's me and my lawyer.

1130
0:54:53 --> 0:54:58
So this jury isn't exactly an impartial group.

1131
0:54:58 --> 0:54:59
They are chosen by the college

1132
0:55:00 --> 0:55:01
who is the accuser.

1133
0:55:02 --> 0:55:04
They work for the accuser.

1134
0:55:04 --> 0:55:06
They're picked by the accuser.

1135
0:55:06 --> 0:55:08
So I wasn't expecting justice.

1136
0:55:10 --> 0:55:12
This is not how justice is supposed to work.

1137
0:55:12 --> 0:55:15
A jury is supposed to be an impartial group.

1138
0:55:17 --> 0:55:19
But by the grace of God,

1139
0:55:20 --> 0:55:25
this disciplinary panel decided that it would not be fair

1140
0:55:26 --> 0:55:30
to conduct a trial on me where I had no defense.

1141
0:55:30 --> 0:55:33
And I couldn't believe it.

1142
0:55:33 --> 0:55:36
But I then realized that I needed to have a different lawyer.

1143
0:55:36 --> 0:55:41
And I then managed to find a brilliant man called Lee Turner

1144
0:55:41 --> 0:55:43
who also works in British Columbia,

1145
0:55:43 --> 0:55:45
who had been a personal injury lawyer before this

1146
0:55:45 --> 0:55:48
and who has seemed to have a very good understanding

1147
0:55:48 --> 0:55:49
of how these colleges work

1148
0:55:49 --> 0:55:54
and knew what a medical expert testimony

1149
0:55:54 --> 0:55:55
is supposed to look like

1150
0:55:55 --> 0:55:57
because he'd been a personal injury lawyer.

1151
0:55:57 --> 0:56:02
And he recruited eight world-class experts

1152
0:56:03 --> 0:56:08
to deal with each one of the areas of accusation against me.

1153
0:56:10 --> 0:56:13
And by the grace of God,

1154
0:56:13 --> 0:56:18
every one of these eight people offered their testimony

1155
0:56:18 --> 0:56:21
and their work absolutely free of charge

1156
0:56:21 --> 0:56:23
because they had all heard about me

1157
0:56:23 --> 0:56:26
and by what had happened to me.

1158
0:56:26 --> 0:56:27
And they literally,

1159
0:56:27 --> 0:56:29
because I mean, there's no way I could afford this.

1160
0:56:29 --> 0:56:34
I mean, the caliber of these people is unsurpassed.

1161
0:56:34 --> 0:56:36
There were eight fantastic people

1162
0:56:36 --> 0:56:40
who submitted literally over 900 pages

1163
0:56:40 --> 0:56:42
of brilliant expert testimony.

1164
0:56:44 --> 0:56:47
So in order to be considerate and kind to the college,

1165
0:56:47 --> 0:56:51
rather than submitting this 14 days before,

1166
0:56:52 --> 0:56:55
we gave it to them 30 days before

1167
0:56:55 --> 0:56:56
because there was a lot of stuff.

1168
0:56:56 --> 0:56:59
It was over 900 pages of expert testimony.

1169
0:57:00 --> 0:57:03
And when the college saw this, they bolted.

1170
0:57:03 --> 0:57:08
They realized that their one expert witness

1171
0:57:08 --> 0:57:11
who really wasn't an expert in any of the areas

1172
0:57:11 --> 0:57:13
that he claimed to be an expert of

1173
0:57:13 --> 0:57:18
was hopelessly outranked, outclassed, outgunned.

1174
0:57:18 --> 0:57:22
And so they applied for something called judicial notice.

1175
0:57:22 --> 0:57:24
So for those of you who don't know what judicial notice is,

1176
0:57:24 --> 0:57:28
it's a weird Canadian legal principle

1177
0:57:28 --> 0:57:32
where a court can declare that certain facts

1178
0:57:32 --> 0:57:37
are irrefutable or uncontestable.

1179
0:57:37 --> 0:57:41
And it's usually to just simplify judicial processes

1180
0:57:41 --> 0:57:43
where there's certain things you just don't need to prove.

1181
0:57:43 --> 0:57:47
But this had been massively misused during the pandemic.

1182
0:57:47 --> 0:57:50
They would say, the fact that Health Canada

1183
0:57:50 --> 0:57:52
approved these shots is the evidence

1184
0:57:52 --> 0:57:54
that they're safe and effective.

1185
0:57:54 --> 0:57:56
Therefore, we will take that on judicial notice

1186
0:57:56 --> 0:58:00
because we know they're safe and effective.

1187
0:58:00 --> 0:58:03
But my lawyer was brilliant enough because he knew

1188
0:58:03 --> 0:58:06
that what the college's lawyers were trying to do

1189
0:58:06 --> 0:58:09
was to stop this evidence of harm

1190
0:58:09 --> 0:58:12
from getting to this disciplinary panel.

1191
0:58:12 --> 0:58:13
And the way they were gonna stop that

1192
0:58:13 --> 0:58:16
was by asking them to grant judicial notice

1193
0:58:16 --> 0:58:18
so that those expert testimonies

1194
0:58:18 --> 0:58:21
couldn't be submitted as court documents.

1195
0:58:21 --> 0:58:24
And if they had granted judicial notice,

1196
0:58:24 --> 0:58:27
I would not have been able to testify in my own defense

1197
0:58:27 --> 0:58:30
and nor would any of these eight expert witnesses.

1198
0:58:31 --> 0:58:36
And again, I was on my knees praying that this group

1199
0:58:38 --> 0:58:41
would turn out to be honest people,

1200
0:58:41 --> 0:58:46
that they would turn out to be truthful and just.

1201
0:58:46 --> 0:58:50
And my lawyer, Lee Turner, used this opportunity

1202
0:58:50 --> 0:58:54
in his response to their application for judicial notice

1203
0:58:54 --> 0:58:58
to put in large portions of these people's expert testimonies

1204
0:58:58 --> 0:59:01
into his response for why you should not

1205
0:59:01 --> 0:59:02
grant judicial notice for this.

1206
0:59:02 --> 0:59:05
In other words, getting this evidence of harm

1207
0:59:05 --> 0:59:10
before this panel, and it worked.

1208
0:59:10 --> 0:59:12
They did not grant judicial notice

1209
0:59:12 --> 0:59:14
to anything that we didn't agree with.

1210
0:59:14 --> 0:59:17
Of course, they mix in a whole lot of things.

1211
0:59:17 --> 0:59:19
There's some things that we would not have any

1212
0:59:19 --> 0:59:21
difference of opinion about,

1213
0:59:21 --> 0:59:23
but they mix in safe and effective

1214
0:59:23 --> 0:59:25
with other things that we would agree with.

1215
0:59:25 --> 0:59:27
So, and that's one of their ways of doing it anyway.

1216
0:59:27 --> 0:59:32
So when the college failed to get judicial notice,

1217
0:59:32 --> 0:59:36
failed to block the evidence, failed to bury the evidence,

1218
0:59:36 --> 0:59:39
they then said, okay, well, we're gonna reschedule

1219
0:59:39 --> 0:59:41
the trial, but they scheduled it for a time

1220
0:59:41 --> 0:59:45
when they knew my lawyer could not be present.

1221
0:59:45 --> 0:59:47
They knew, they purposely scheduled it at time,

1222
0:59:47 --> 0:59:51
and they said to me, I just need to get another lawyer.

1223
0:59:51 --> 0:59:53
And I said, I cannot get another lawyer.

1224
0:59:53 --> 0:59:56
This is a highly, highly complicated case.

1225
0:59:56 --> 0:59:58
And so I objected.

1226
0:59:58 --> 1:00:01
I said, this is very unfair.

1227
1:00:01 --> 1:00:04
I cannot get another lawyer at this late stage.

1228
1:00:04 --> 1:00:07
And so fortunately, once again, this disciplinary panel

1229
1:00:07 --> 1:00:11
who I had prayed so much for was just and fair and said,

1230
1:00:11 --> 1:00:15
okay, Dr. Hoff is entitled to choose his legal counsel.

1231
1:00:15 --> 1:00:18
We will schedule at a time when his lawyer is present.

1232
1:00:18 --> 1:00:22
And when that happened, the college just dropped everything

1233
1:00:22 --> 1:00:26
because they did not want this evidence to come out.

1234
1:00:27 --> 1:00:31
So these are all of the legal tactics that they've used

1235
1:00:31 --> 1:00:35
to try and pervert justice,

1236
1:00:35 --> 1:00:37
starting with trying to just discredit me

1237
1:00:37 --> 1:00:40
as a spreader of misinformation,

1238
1:00:40 --> 1:00:43
using me as a scapegoat.

1239
1:00:43 --> 1:00:47
And one of the reasons that the college has given

1240
1:00:47 --> 1:00:49
for why they dropped the charges

1241
1:00:51 --> 1:00:55
is that they say this has already fulfilled its purpose

1242
1:00:55 --> 1:00:58
to act as a deterrent to other doctors

1243
1:00:58 --> 1:01:01
against spreading misinformation.

1244
1:01:01 --> 1:01:05
In other words, this is to shut down freedom of speech.

1245
1:01:06 --> 1:01:10
And we now have this law in place in British Columbia

1246
1:01:10 --> 1:01:13
called the HPOA, the Health Practitioners and Occupations Act.

1247
1:01:13 --> 1:01:18
And under this law, if a doctor is guilty of misinformation,

1248
1:01:18 --> 1:01:22
the fine is $200,000 plus six months in jail

1249
1:01:24 --> 1:01:25
for misinformation.

1250
1:01:25 --> 1:01:27
So what is misinformation?

1251
1:01:27 --> 1:01:29
We'd never heard of it before this pandemic.

1252
1:01:29 --> 1:01:31
It's simply disagreeing with the government

1253
1:01:31 --> 1:01:33
is misinformation.

1254
1:01:34 --> 1:01:35
It's arbitrary.

1255
1:01:35 --> 1:01:38
It's arbitrary and it can change.

1256
1:01:38 --> 1:01:43
Obviously, if in February 2022,

1257
1:01:43 --> 1:01:46
they issued the citation against me for misinformation

1258
1:01:46 --> 1:01:49
and then they dropped the citation in February 2025,

1259
1:01:49 --> 1:01:53
somehow what was misinformation in 2022

1260
1:01:53 --> 1:01:57
is no longer misinformation in February 2025.

1261
1:01:57 --> 1:02:00
That shows how arbitrary it is that they drop everything.

1262
1:02:01 --> 1:02:04
So I'd be open to questions about anything,

1263
1:02:04 --> 1:02:09
but this just shows the tactics and the corruption

1264
1:02:09 --> 1:02:13
and the levels that these people will go to

1265
1:02:13 --> 1:02:16
to control the medical profession

1266
1:02:16 --> 1:02:20
because they have weaponized healthcare

1267
1:02:20 --> 1:02:22
and we need to stand up against it.

1268
1:02:22 --> 1:02:24
So I'd be happy to field any questions.

1269
1:02:24 --> 1:02:27
Charles, we've got questions.

1270
1:02:28 --> 1:02:31
Thank you so much for sharing your truth.

1271
1:02:31 --> 1:02:33
This, don't forget to save the chat

1272
1:02:33 --> 1:02:38
because there's wonderful comments there supporting you.

1273
1:02:38 --> 1:02:40
Before we go to Stephen,

1274
1:02:40 --> 1:02:44
who will have his traditional 15 minutes,

1275
1:02:44 --> 1:02:48
could you just remind us all of the,

1276
1:02:49 --> 1:02:54
it seems the global connection or the global organization

1277
1:02:54 --> 1:02:57
that helps medical boards do what they do.

1278
1:02:57 --> 1:02:57
What's it called?

1279
1:02:58 --> 1:03:00
It's the federal group.

1280
1:03:00 --> 1:03:03
Someone will know, I just can't quite remember the name.

1281
1:03:03 --> 1:03:06
All medical boards are linked to a global federation.

1282
1:03:06 --> 1:03:09
Well, it's the Federation of State Medical Boards in the US.

1283
1:03:09 --> 1:03:10
Is that what you mean?

1284
1:03:10 --> 1:03:11
Yes, it is.

1285
1:03:11 --> 1:03:13
And I think there's a global one as well, John.

1286
1:03:13 --> 1:03:14
Have you heard of that, Charles?

1287
1:03:14 --> 1:03:15
There is one, Charles.

1288
1:03:15 --> 1:03:17
Yeah, I can't remember the name for it.

1289
1:03:17 --> 1:03:19
So if someone could put that in the chat,

1290
1:03:19 --> 1:03:21
it's useful to know because these tactics

1291
1:03:21 --> 1:03:23
that you are talking about, Charles,

1292
1:03:23 --> 1:03:25
see, one of the issues that I said right at the start

1293
1:03:25 --> 1:03:28
with John Rappaport, he said, name names.

1294
1:03:28 --> 1:03:30
And one of the issues is the pervert,

1295
1:03:30 --> 1:03:32
perverting the course of justice

1296
1:03:33 --> 1:03:38
is the behavior of the members of the medical board.

1297
1:03:38 --> 1:03:41
And they get away as being not known.

1298
1:03:41 --> 1:03:43
They, you know, I'm not telling you,

1299
1:03:43 --> 1:03:45
I'm just saying that it is,

1300
1:03:45 --> 1:03:50
we must as freedom fighters understand

1301
1:03:50 --> 1:03:51
that we have to take action

1302
1:03:51 --> 1:03:54
against the members of the medical board personally.

1303
1:03:54 --> 1:03:56
And I understand how difficult that is,

1304
1:03:56 --> 1:03:58
but I'll bring that to your attention, Charles,

1305
1:03:58 --> 1:03:59
and everyone's attention,

1306
1:03:59 --> 1:04:02
because they have behaved criminally

1307
1:04:02 --> 1:04:04
because it's a criminal offense

1308
1:04:04 --> 1:04:06
to pervert the course of justice.

1309
1:04:06 --> 1:04:09
So that's the thought I would wish to share, Charles.

1310
1:04:09 --> 1:04:11
Any comments, and then we'll go to Stephen.

1311
1:04:13 --> 1:04:15
No, let's go to Stephen.

1312
1:04:15 --> 1:04:15
Good.

1313
1:04:15 --> 1:04:19
So Charles, I thought it was,

1314
1:04:19 --> 1:04:21
you know, I'd forgotten about the D-dimer stuff.

1315
1:04:21 --> 1:04:23
And then while you were talking, I remembered it.

1316
1:04:23 --> 1:04:26
And I was going to kind of interrupt at an earlier stage,

1317
1:04:26 --> 1:04:27
but then you did mention it.

1318
1:04:27 --> 1:04:29
And I realized you were coming,

1319
1:04:29 --> 1:04:31
you said, you thought it was Sucreit-Bacti.

1320
1:04:31 --> 1:04:33
So it was Sucreit-Bacti.

1321
1:04:33 --> 1:04:34
He was the one, if you remember.

1322
1:04:34 --> 1:04:39
So I managed to persuade Sucreit-Bacti to,

1323
1:04:39 --> 1:04:41
eventually there were three letters

1324
1:04:41 --> 1:04:42
to the European Medicines Agency.

1325
1:04:42 --> 1:04:44
And I keep pointing to these letters.

1326
1:04:44 --> 1:04:45
They're extremely important,

1327
1:04:45 --> 1:04:48
but hardly anybody follows up and looks,

1328
1:04:49 --> 1:04:51
because it's all laid out there, you know.

1329
1:04:51 --> 1:04:56
So Sucreit was saying, Stephen, there's no point, you know.

1330
1:04:56 --> 1:04:57
There's no point in doing it.

1331
1:04:57 --> 1:04:58
They're not going to do anything.

1332
1:04:58 --> 1:05:00
I said, that's not the point, Sucreit.

1333
1:05:00 --> 1:05:03
The point is that if we have a letter,

1334
1:05:03 --> 1:05:05
which we know they've been sent,

1335
1:05:05 --> 1:05:08
we had them, I can't remember how we sent them now

1336
1:05:08 --> 1:05:11
by personal courier or whatever,

1337
1:05:11 --> 1:05:12
and it was all recorded.

1338
1:05:12 --> 1:05:15
And then they can't say they didn't know.

1339
1:05:15 --> 1:05:20
And this was early in 2021, Charles.

1340
1:05:21 --> 1:05:24
And Sucreit was saying, oh no, no point, Stephen.

1341
1:05:24 --> 1:05:26
It's absolutely pointless.

1342
1:05:26 --> 1:05:28
I was saying, no, Sucreit,

1343
1:05:28 --> 1:05:30
because I knew that he had the information

1344
1:05:30 --> 1:05:32
that we needed to get down on paper

1345
1:05:33 --> 1:05:35
and that it was very important

1346
1:05:35 --> 1:05:39
that we had it very early on, you know, early 2021.

1347
1:05:39 --> 1:05:42
So like three months or two months even

1348
1:05:42 --> 1:05:45
after the shots were rolled out in the UK,

1349
1:05:45 --> 1:05:49
I think it was first, on the 8th of December, 2020.

1350
1:05:49 --> 1:05:52
Two, a guy called William Shakespeare, believe it or not.

1351
1:05:52 --> 1:05:55
I mean, you know, this was clear,

1352
1:05:55 --> 1:05:56
I was thinking to myself,

1353
1:05:56 --> 1:05:58
what are the chances of someone being called

1354
1:05:58 --> 1:06:02
William Shakespeare, you know, these days in England,

1355
1:06:02 --> 1:06:05
and the first patient who had the AstraZeneca shot

1356
1:06:05 --> 1:06:08
in the United Kingdom, in the whole world,

1357
1:06:08 --> 1:06:13
on the 8th of December, 2020, was in the UK,

1358
1:06:13 --> 1:06:14
and his name was William Shakespeare.

1359
1:06:16 --> 1:06:18
I've never been able to verify that.

1360
1:06:19 --> 1:06:21
But I just thought it was extraordinary detail, you know?

1361
1:06:21 --> 1:06:25
And so these people, I absolutely agree with you, Charles,

1362
1:06:25 --> 1:06:29
that the only explanation for the behavior we saw in 2020,

1363
1:06:29 --> 1:06:33
2021, 2022, with America closed

1364
1:06:33 --> 1:06:38
until the 11th of May, 2023, from October, 2021.

1365
1:06:39 --> 1:06:43
So medical apartheid in the United States of America,

1366
1:06:43 --> 1:06:46
and I am a big fan of Trump at the moment,

1367
1:06:46 --> 1:06:48
because he gives us all hope and we need him,

1368
1:06:49 --> 1:06:52
we need hope, but he never mentions this medical apartheid,

1369
1:06:52 --> 1:06:56
which existed in the United States of America,

1370
1:06:56 --> 1:06:58
of all countries, for 17 months,

1371
1:06:58 --> 1:07:03
from October, 2021, till May, 2023,

1372
1:07:03 --> 1:07:07
and let no one in the world ever forget that fact.

1373
1:07:07 --> 1:07:11
So Charles, I think you're a hero.

1374
1:07:11 --> 1:07:13
You know, at the time, we were all struggling

1375
1:07:13 --> 1:07:15
with our different realities in different countries

1376
1:07:15 --> 1:07:17
and different circumstances.

1377
1:07:18 --> 1:07:20
Someone wrote in the chat,

1378
1:07:20 --> 1:07:22
I remember the desperate time

1379
1:07:22 --> 1:07:24
when you were being attacked from all fronts,

1380
1:07:24 --> 1:07:28
and then you found you were being attacked by your own wife.

1381
1:07:28 --> 1:07:31
And I just thought, and somebody wrote in the chat,

1382
1:07:31 --> 1:07:32
I'm just trying to find it.

1383
1:07:36 --> 1:07:37
Oh yeah.

1384
1:07:39 --> 1:07:41
Oh, I can't find it.

1385
1:07:41 --> 1:07:43
I'll find it later.

1386
1:07:43 --> 1:07:47
Oh, I wouldn't wish a cruel divorce on my worst enemy.

1387
1:07:47 --> 1:07:48
Absolutely.

1388
1:07:48 --> 1:07:51
So in a time when the whole world was in turmoil

1389
1:07:51 --> 1:07:54
and you were as affected as I, trying to make sense of it,

1390
1:07:56 --> 1:07:59
you suddenly had your wife turning on you,

1391
1:07:59 --> 1:08:03
and yeah, issuing a cruel divorce.

1392
1:08:03 --> 1:08:06
I wouldn't wish a cruel divorce on my worst enemy.

1393
1:08:06 --> 1:08:08
I remember at the time, Charles,

1394
1:08:08 --> 1:08:13
I was just overwhelmed with sadness for you,

1395
1:08:13 --> 1:08:17
but you've really recovered, and we have both survived.

1396
1:08:18 --> 1:08:18
So that's good.

1397
1:08:18 --> 1:08:22
But I think the time with doctors for COVID ethics,

1398
1:08:22 --> 1:08:24
I've forgotten all that.

1399
1:08:24 --> 1:08:26
And so you were the first doctor in the world,

1400
1:08:26 --> 1:08:30
as far as I know, who was doing D-dymers

1401
1:08:30 --> 1:08:34
to prove the link between, in your own patients,

1402
1:08:34 --> 1:08:39
between clots, sorry, the formation of clots

1403
1:08:39 --> 1:08:40
due to the vaccination.

1404
1:08:40 --> 1:08:44
And that information was from Sukrit Bhakti

1405
1:08:44 --> 1:08:46
and maybe Michael Palmer, I think, to be fair.

1406
1:08:46 --> 1:08:51
So anyway, what else do I need to say?

1407
1:08:51 --> 1:08:52
So-

1408
1:08:52 --> 1:08:56
Yeah, after that, after I spoke about the D-dimer,

1409
1:08:56 --> 1:09:00
then doctors all over the world started doing D-dymers

1410
1:09:00 --> 1:09:01
on people with vaccine injuries,

1411
1:09:01 --> 1:09:03
even if it didn't look like a clot,

1412
1:09:03 --> 1:09:07
and finding that almost every vaccine injured patient

1413
1:09:07 --> 1:09:10
had hugely elevated D-dymers.

1414
1:09:10 --> 1:09:11
But the problem with the D-dimer

1415
1:09:11 --> 1:09:14
is you've got to do it fairly soon after the vaccine injury.

1416
1:09:14 --> 1:09:16
If you do it months later,

1417
1:09:16 --> 1:09:19
it's not gonna be meaningful because it goes back to normal.

1418
1:09:19 --> 1:09:21
Even though the clot and the damage is still there,

1419
1:09:21 --> 1:09:24
the D-dimer doesn't stay elevated for a long time.

1420
1:09:24 --> 1:09:29
So that's why, in my patients, we decided eight days,

1421
1:09:29 --> 1:09:30
we'd do a cutoff of eight days,

1422
1:09:30 --> 1:09:33
but you could have probably done longer than that.

1423
1:09:34 --> 1:09:36
Yeah, so Sukrit Bhakti was talking

1424
1:09:36 --> 1:09:39
about central venous sinus thrombosis.

1425
1:09:39 --> 1:09:43
And I knew about CVST from radiology.

1426
1:09:43 --> 1:09:47
And so he predicted, brilliantly, he predicted,

1427
1:09:47 --> 1:09:50
as you said, he said the endothelium,

1428
1:09:51 --> 1:09:55
and he said that the places of minimum blood flow,

1429
1:09:55 --> 1:09:58
such as the central venous sinus of the brain,

1430
1:09:58 --> 1:10:00
would be where he would expect problems.

1431
1:10:00 --> 1:10:04
So we managed, I encouraged him to write a third letter

1432
1:10:04 --> 1:10:07
to the European Medicines Agency,

1433
1:10:07 --> 1:10:09
and he and I did it over the phone.

1434
1:10:10 --> 1:10:14
So I was kind of picking his brains and writing it down.

1435
1:10:14 --> 1:10:17
And we managed to get this,

1436
1:10:17 --> 1:10:20
so he predicted that anybody with headache

1437
1:10:20 --> 1:10:23
should be investigated for, sorry, he didn't predict,

1438
1:10:23 --> 1:10:26
he hypothesized that anybody with headache

1439
1:10:26 --> 1:10:29
should not be just following a vaccination,

1440
1:10:29 --> 1:10:32
shouldn't be dismissed as nothing dangerous,

1441
1:10:32 --> 1:10:34
that it's only a headache,

1442
1:10:34 --> 1:10:36
because every headache should be investigated

1443
1:10:36 --> 1:10:39
for the existence of a central venous sinus thrombosis,

1444
1:10:40 --> 1:10:42
which is a very, very dangerous diagnosis, as you know.

1445
1:10:42 --> 1:10:47
So anyway, I just wonder, Charles,

1446
1:10:47 --> 1:10:49
so we're both doctors.

1447
1:10:50 --> 1:10:54
And I think that, you know,

1448
1:10:54 --> 1:10:56
I think you probably would agree with me,

1449
1:10:56 --> 1:10:57
but maybe you haven't thought of it,

1450
1:10:57 --> 1:11:01
but I think you did hint at it earlier.

1451
1:11:01 --> 1:11:04
So in my opinion, people talk about the shots, you know,

1452
1:11:04 --> 1:11:06
they think it's all about the shots,

1453
1:11:06 --> 1:11:07
the damage that was done,

1454
1:11:07 --> 1:11:09
when I think as a medical doctor

1455
1:11:09 --> 1:11:12
that what we should be seeing as doctors

1456
1:11:12 --> 1:11:14
is that people were terrified.

1457
1:11:14 --> 1:11:16
They were terrified out of their minds.

1458
1:11:16 --> 1:11:18
And guess what, Charles,

1459
1:11:18 --> 1:11:21
I think they've got Stockholm syndrome,

1460
1:11:21 --> 1:11:23
and that's why you can't get through to them.

1461
1:11:23 --> 1:11:27
So, and even people like you and me, you know,

1462
1:11:27 --> 1:11:29
we understood what was going on or had a good idea,

1463
1:11:29 --> 1:11:32
but we thought we were immune from the psychological torture

1464
1:11:32 --> 1:11:35
that was being inflicted on people all over the world,

1465
1:11:35 --> 1:11:38
because we understood the medicine,

1466
1:11:38 --> 1:11:40
we thought, oh, you know, we can't,

1467
1:11:40 --> 1:11:44
we're not gonna be affected by this psychological torture.

1468
1:11:44 --> 1:11:46
But I began to realize that I wasn't functioning

1469
1:11:46 --> 1:11:48
as well as I had been.

1470
1:11:48 --> 1:11:50
And then I started looking at people around me,

1471
1:11:50 --> 1:11:52
and I started to think, you know,

1472
1:11:52 --> 1:11:55
are these people functioning

1473
1:11:55 --> 1:11:58
as they probably were before 2020?

1474
1:11:58 --> 1:12:00
And I concluded that they weren't.

1475
1:12:00 --> 1:12:05
And so I think that we still haven't understood

1476
1:12:06 --> 1:12:10
the totality of what went wrong in 2020,

1477
1:12:10 --> 1:12:11
but it wouldn't be surprising, would it,

1478
1:12:11 --> 1:12:14
if you think about it,

1479
1:12:14 --> 1:12:16
that if you break people's habits,

1480
1:12:16 --> 1:12:18
if you isolate them as they did,

1481
1:12:18 --> 1:12:21
isolated human beings,

1482
1:12:21 --> 1:12:24
that that was intended to break human beings.

1483
1:12:24 --> 1:12:26
And I think the best way to break human beings

1484
1:12:26 --> 1:12:27
is to isolate them.

1485
1:12:27 --> 1:12:29
And the lockdowns were about isolation,

1486
1:12:29 --> 1:12:34
and they knew that people who instigated these things,

1487
1:12:34 --> 1:12:37
they knew that they would cause incredible harm,

1488
1:12:37 --> 1:12:39
and that is evil, and we need to hold them to account,

1489
1:12:39 --> 1:12:41
and I'm sure you'd agree with that,

1490
1:12:41 --> 1:12:43
but maybe you've got some comments.

1491
1:12:44 --> 1:12:46
Yeah, you know, isolating people

1492
1:12:46 --> 1:12:49
and telling them they can't go to work,

1493
1:12:49 --> 1:12:51
where all they've got is their television,

1494
1:12:51 --> 1:12:55
and then you relentlessly feed them through that,

1495
1:12:55 --> 1:12:57
that's their social contact,

1496
1:12:59 --> 1:13:01
it was amazingly effective.

1497
1:13:01 --> 1:13:03
And, you know, for,

1498
1:13:03 --> 1:13:05
because of course fear makes people irrational,

1499
1:13:05 --> 1:13:09
makes fear, it amazed me,

1500
1:13:09 --> 1:13:11
the number of people that,

1501
1:13:11 --> 1:13:13
patients I had who were vaccine injured,

1502
1:13:13 --> 1:13:16
and would go off to get their next shot.

1503
1:13:16 --> 1:13:19
And I'd say to them, but what happened?

1504
1:13:19 --> 1:13:22
And the trouble is they were so terrified of COVID,

1505
1:13:23 --> 1:13:27
that they were more scared of COVID than the shots.

1506
1:13:27 --> 1:13:28
Sure.

1507
1:13:28 --> 1:13:32
And I was just astounded at the power of fear,

1508
1:13:33 --> 1:13:36
and how, I mean, we saw people change,

1509
1:13:36 --> 1:13:39
I mean, people that treated family members

1510
1:13:39 --> 1:13:44
with the most incredible cruelty out of fear.

1511
1:13:45 --> 1:13:49
They became completely irrational,

1512
1:13:49 --> 1:13:51
they just, their personalities changed

1513
1:13:51 --> 1:13:52
through the power of fear.

1514
1:13:52 --> 1:13:54
So I think they intentionally

1515
1:13:54 --> 1:13:56
raped the souls of human beings,

1516
1:13:56 --> 1:13:59
and people used to tell me off for using the word rape,

1517
1:13:59 --> 1:14:00
you know, they also used to tell me off

1518
1:14:00 --> 1:14:03
for saying crimes against humanity, you know,

1519
1:14:03 --> 1:14:06
and the Nuremberg code and stuff like that, you know,

1520
1:14:06 --> 1:14:10
and I don't think they understood the seriousness,

1521
1:14:10 --> 1:14:13
or had even begun to understand the seriousness

1522
1:14:13 --> 1:14:15
of what happened, you know,

1523
1:14:15 --> 1:14:16
to close down the whole damn world

1524
1:14:16 --> 1:14:19
because of a stupid little infection was pathetic,

1525
1:14:19 --> 1:14:22
and it was evil personified.

1526
1:14:22 --> 1:14:25
And I was also criticized for using the word evil.

1527
1:14:25 --> 1:14:27
But Charles, thank you so much,

1528
1:14:27 --> 1:14:29
it's great to see you again.

1529
1:14:29 --> 1:14:34
And I can recognize some of the names on the call

1530
1:14:34 --> 1:14:36
from those times, you know,

1531
1:14:36 --> 1:14:38
when we were all trying to work it out together,

1532
1:14:38 --> 1:14:42
and it just shows the bond that we have with each other.

1533
1:14:42 --> 1:14:44
And it's nice now because we're slightly more relaxed

1534
1:14:44 --> 1:14:47
than we were, but there's still a lot of work to do,

1535
1:14:47 --> 1:14:48
I'm sure you'd agree.

1536
1:14:49 --> 1:14:50
Thank you, Stephen.

1537
1:14:50 --> 1:14:52
Time and truth go hand in hand.

1538
1:14:53 --> 1:14:54
What did you say?

1539
1:14:54 --> 1:14:57
I said time and truth go hand in hand.

1540
1:14:57 --> 1:14:59
Oh, absolutely, yeah.

1541
1:14:59 --> 1:15:00
Beautifully put.

1542
1:15:00 --> 1:15:02
Okay, thank you, Stephen.

1543
1:15:02 --> 1:15:04
All right, we've got a string of hands up.

1544
1:15:04 --> 1:15:09
Winston from your current home country, Charles,

1545
1:15:09 --> 1:15:09
from Canada.

1546
1:15:11 --> 1:15:12
Hi.

1547
1:15:13 --> 1:15:15
Can you hear me?

1548
1:15:15 --> 1:15:15
Yep. Yes.

1549
1:15:15 --> 1:15:17
Yep.

1550
1:15:17 --> 1:15:19
I, first of all, want to let everybody know

1551
1:15:19 --> 1:15:22
that I am now in the beautiful West Indies,

1552
1:15:22 --> 1:15:25
but it's not as quiet as you might like.

1553
1:15:25 --> 1:15:26
So you may hear some noise.

1554
1:15:26 --> 1:15:28
I have a guy doing some work outside,

1555
1:15:28 --> 1:15:31
trying to get him to finish, but I'm doing a little longer.

1556
1:15:31 --> 1:15:32
So bear with me.

1557
1:15:33 --> 1:15:35
I want to say to Dr. Hoffman,

1558
1:15:35 --> 1:15:39
I've followed your ODs since they begun,

1559
1:15:39 --> 1:15:41
or they were announced,

1560
1:15:41 --> 1:15:43
and I realize you've been through the wringer.

1561
1:15:45 --> 1:15:49
I want you to know that there are probably a lot of us,

1562
1:15:49 --> 1:15:50
I am certainly one who,

1563
1:15:50 --> 1:15:55
I'm not in favor of what the colleges have done.

1564
1:15:58 --> 1:16:03
Fortunately for me, I got out in 2020

1565
1:16:03 --> 1:16:05
because I would have been in big trouble

1566
1:16:05 --> 1:16:08
because I could not keep my mouth quiet

1567
1:16:08 --> 1:16:12
in deed in terms of what I am aware of.

1568
1:16:13 --> 1:16:18
I wrote at the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario,

1569
1:16:19 --> 1:16:20
of which I was a member,

1570
1:16:20 --> 1:16:22
on at least three occasions with respect

1571
1:16:22 --> 1:16:25
to what was going on and they're not investigating it

1572
1:16:25 --> 1:16:29
and holding doctors accountable, which I find horrible.

1573
1:16:30 --> 1:16:32
So I just want you to know that,

1574
1:16:32 --> 1:16:34
that you were never alone in this.

1575
1:16:34 --> 1:16:36
I'm sure there are lots of other people who felt it.

1576
1:16:36 --> 1:16:37
I don't know what they did.

1577
1:16:37 --> 1:16:39
I could tell you what I did.

1578
1:16:39 --> 1:16:42
And so, well, I'm glad that you've come out on the other side

1579
1:16:42 --> 1:16:44
and I hope it doesn't stop here.

1580
1:16:44 --> 1:16:49
I think that we need to do something to stem this tide.

1581
1:16:49 --> 1:16:52
I was fascinated today by a statement

1582
1:16:52 --> 1:16:57
which I hadn't realized and then I checked with Charles Covis

1583
1:16:57 --> 1:17:01
that in 1990, the United Nations announced,

1584
1:17:01 --> 1:17:03
did I hear it correctly,

1585
1:17:04 --> 1:17:08
that the world population should be reduced

1586
1:17:08 --> 1:17:11
or was that effective 500 million?

1587
1:17:14 --> 1:17:15
That is correct.

1588
1:17:15 --> 1:17:18
That was part of agenda 21,

1589
1:17:18 --> 1:17:23
which was a United Nations statement for their aims

1590
1:17:24 --> 1:17:26
to achieve by the year 2021.

1591
1:17:32 --> 1:17:33
There you go, Winston.

1592
1:17:33 --> 1:17:33
Well, go ahead.

1593
1:17:33 --> 1:17:38
I got to say this is, I don't know how many people

1594
1:17:38 --> 1:17:39
of authority worldwide know of this

1595
1:17:39 --> 1:17:44
because it is nothing less than madness

1596
1:17:45 --> 1:17:48
for people to continue following the United Nations

1597
1:17:48 --> 1:17:50
or any organization that issues that

1598
1:17:51 --> 1:17:54
and it has authority and issues that statement.

1599
1:17:54 --> 1:17:57
And then it's offshoot the World Health Organization.

1600
1:17:57 --> 1:18:00
It is craziness for us to be following anything like that.

1601
1:18:00 --> 1:18:03
I mean, I think that we should somehow attempt

1602
1:18:03 --> 1:18:04
to publicize that.

1603
1:18:04 --> 1:18:06
I don't know that many people know that.

1604
1:18:06 --> 1:18:09
That is, I mean, 1990, it was a world population,

1605
1:18:10 --> 1:18:11
maybe six billion.

1606
1:18:11 --> 1:18:13
You talk about going to 500 million.

1607
1:18:15 --> 1:18:17
Yeah, they wanted to, yeah, it was about five.

1608
1:18:17 --> 1:18:20
And I think it was between five and six billion

1609
1:18:20 --> 1:18:22
at that time and they wanted it to half a billion,

1610
1:18:22 --> 1:18:23
which is 500 million.

1611
1:18:23 --> 1:18:28
Well, yes, and by 2100, not 2021, by 2100.

1612
1:18:28 --> 1:18:32
So in other words, 75 years from now, Winston.

1613
1:18:32 --> 1:18:33
But by any account,

1614
1:18:33 --> 1:18:35
unless you're gonna somehow stop people

1615
1:18:35 --> 1:18:36
from multiplying and living,

1616
1:18:36 --> 1:18:39
what you're saying is we gotta get rid of these people.

1617
1:18:41 --> 1:18:45
Yeah, because we've got 8,000 million at the moment.

1618
1:18:45 --> 1:18:48
So 500 million is 1 20th of that.

1619
1:18:48 --> 1:18:50
So it's a lot of people.

1620
1:18:50 --> 1:18:54
So yeah, that, since 1990,

1621
1:18:55 --> 1:19:00
this is, you're talking about getting rid of human beings.

1622
1:19:00 --> 1:19:01
Sure.

1623
1:19:01 --> 1:19:06
So I'm not surprised that Bill Gates in his Ted talk

1624
1:19:09 --> 1:19:14
spoke of innovating to zero and cutting by 10 to 15%.

1625
1:19:15 --> 1:19:17
I mean, this is craziness

1626
1:19:17 --> 1:19:18
and we still following these people.

1627
1:19:18 --> 1:19:21
So I don't know what we.

1628
1:19:21 --> 1:19:25
So Winston, Winston, Winston, you don't know what to do.

1629
1:19:25 --> 1:19:29
Be inspired by Matt Guthrie and Charles,

1630
1:19:30 --> 1:19:34
this was, he produced the movie,

1631
1:19:35 --> 1:19:38
the movie, follow the silence.

1632
1:19:38 --> 1:19:41
And Winston, he was working on Dale Bigtree's,

1633
1:19:41 --> 1:19:42
The High Wire.

1634
1:19:42 --> 1:19:44
He says, someone's gotta do something about it.

1635
1:19:44 --> 1:19:45
He said, I'm gonna do it.

1636
1:19:45 --> 1:19:48
So Winston, here's a great opportunity,

1637
1:19:48 --> 1:19:51
design a strategy and get some people to work with you

1638
1:19:51 --> 1:19:55
to shine a light on what you've learnt today

1639
1:19:55 --> 1:19:57
about Agenda 21.

1640
1:19:57 --> 1:19:58
I think that's fantastic.

1641
1:19:58 --> 1:20:02
You could just start writing about that one single issue

1642
1:20:02 --> 1:20:05
about what a scandal that is, because I put into the chat,

1643
1:20:05 --> 1:20:09
I first heard Mike Adams talking about this plan some

1644
1:20:09 --> 1:20:12
between 15 and 20 years ago, maybe even longer.

1645
1:20:13 --> 1:20:16
So, but if you talk to anybody about a Depop agenda,

1646
1:20:16 --> 1:20:18
they go, you're a conspiracy theorist.

1647
1:20:18 --> 1:20:22
So Winston, here's an exciting opportunity for you.

1648
1:20:22 --> 1:20:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks.

1649
1:20:24 --> 1:20:26
Anyway, Dr. Hoffa, I wanna again thank you

1650
1:20:26 --> 1:20:29
for what you have done and doing.

1651
1:20:29 --> 1:20:30
And as difficult as it is, press on,

1652
1:20:30 --> 1:20:32
you've lost your family in the meantime.

1653
1:20:32 --> 1:20:36
Well, you've got to decide whether the family,

1654
1:20:36 --> 1:20:38
that side of the family is worth it anyway.

1655
1:20:38 --> 1:20:40
If in the height of your difficulty,

1656
1:20:40 --> 1:20:43
you're abandoned with a divorce hearing, that is.

1657
1:20:43 --> 1:20:45
I think there are some people who get help

1658
1:20:45 --> 1:20:47
and some people who get help that really isn't help

1659
1:20:47 --> 1:20:48
that they can do without.

1660
1:20:48 --> 1:20:50
And perhaps you need to see where you're at.

1661
1:20:50 --> 1:20:52
But all the best to you, take care.

1662
1:20:53 --> 1:20:55
The ultimate betrayal.

1663
1:20:55 --> 1:20:56
Right.

1664
1:20:57 --> 1:20:58
Thank you, Winston.

1665
1:20:58 --> 1:21:03
Stephen, we've got a new visitor, Victoria, welcome.

1666
1:21:03 --> 1:21:06
And Victoria shared her story, shared here.

1667
1:21:06 --> 1:21:07
Victoria, welcome.

1668
1:21:09 --> 1:21:12
Hello, thank you so much for having me.

1669
1:21:12 --> 1:21:15
I only came across Karen this afternoon in a WhatsApp group

1670
1:21:15 --> 1:21:17
and she invited me this evening.

1671
1:21:17 --> 1:21:21
I have been in Cornwall with my husband,

1672
1:21:21 --> 1:21:23
banger racing today and I'm a little bit chilly.

1673
1:21:23 --> 1:21:25
So I've got my dressing gown on with my slippers.

1674
1:21:25 --> 1:21:27
I'm gonna keep my camera off, that's okay.

1675
1:21:27 --> 1:21:30
Charles, what can I say?

1676
1:21:30 --> 1:21:33
Just unbelievable hearing your story.

1677
1:21:33 --> 1:21:36
I live over here in the UK and I've been a midwife

1678
1:21:36 --> 1:21:39
in the NHS for six and a half years.

1679
1:21:39 --> 1:21:44
And I pretty much woke up when I went back to work

1680
1:21:46 --> 1:21:47
after having my son.

1681
1:21:47 --> 1:21:49
My son was born on the very first case

1682
1:21:49 --> 1:21:54
that was ever given to the public in the December of 2019.

1683
1:21:54 --> 1:21:59
So I was a vulnerable mum being told by my colleagues

1684
1:21:59 --> 1:22:02
and the NHS fear that this COVID virus

1685
1:22:02 --> 1:22:03
was gonna kill everybody.

1686
1:22:03 --> 1:22:04
It was absolutely horrific.

1687
1:22:04 --> 1:22:08
And I didn't have the right mind space

1688
1:22:08 --> 1:22:09
to think about what was going on.

1689
1:22:09 --> 1:22:12
I was just in that protection mode to protect my baby

1690
1:22:12 --> 1:22:14
and protect my family.

1691
1:22:14 --> 1:22:19
Anyway, when I went back to work in 2020,

1692
1:22:20 --> 1:22:22
I obviously had to have vaccines.

1693
1:22:22 --> 1:22:24
I was mandated to have vaccines.

1694
1:22:24 --> 1:22:28
I had two, but in 2021 and into 2022,

1695
1:22:28 --> 1:22:32
I started noticing an increase in baby deaths

1696
1:22:33 --> 1:22:38
and baby loss, miscarriage rates,

1697
1:22:38 --> 1:22:42
and an increase in blood pressure, preeclampsia,

1698
1:22:42 --> 1:22:42
those sorts of things.

1699
1:22:42 --> 1:22:45
It was just absolutely horrendous.

1700
1:22:46 --> 1:22:48
And unfortunately, I think for the government,

1701
1:22:48 --> 1:22:52
employing women who are critical thinkers to do a degree

1702
1:22:52 --> 1:22:54
was their biggest downfall,

1703
1:22:54 --> 1:22:58
but our most amazing connection to medicine,

1704
1:22:58 --> 1:23:01
because I was able to analyze

1705
1:23:01 --> 1:23:03
what was going on in front of me.

1706
1:23:03 --> 1:23:04
I was able to look at,

1707
1:23:05 --> 1:23:07
I wasn't just a subservient woman

1708
1:23:07 --> 1:23:10
who was dedicated to giving care.

1709
1:23:10 --> 1:23:13
I also had the ability to critically think

1710
1:23:13 --> 1:23:15
about what was going on.

1711
1:23:15 --> 1:23:18
And I was in a matrix, I swear to God.

1712
1:23:18 --> 1:23:22
I was absolutely walking like I was in the middle

1713
1:23:22 --> 1:23:24
of a civil war.

1714
1:23:24 --> 1:23:26
It was horrific.

1715
1:23:26 --> 1:23:30
And I actually got diagnosed with type 1 diabetes in 2019

1716
1:23:30 --> 1:23:32
as a 37 year old.

1717
1:23:33 --> 1:23:35
And I thought it was that.

1718
1:23:35 --> 1:23:38
It wasn't, it was the truth that I knew

1719
1:23:38 --> 1:23:42
that my own employer had never provided me

1720
1:23:42 --> 1:23:43
with any substantial evidence

1721
1:23:43 --> 1:23:46
that the vaccines were safe or effective,

1722
1:23:46 --> 1:23:49
and we were pushing this on pregnant women.

1723
1:23:49 --> 1:23:53
The placentas that we were witnessing were calcified.

1724
1:23:53 --> 1:23:55
So we would normally see a calcified placenta

1725
1:23:55 --> 1:24:00
on a mother who was potentially a smoker or a drug user

1726
1:24:00 --> 1:24:03
that was particularly overweight.

1727
1:24:03 --> 1:24:05
But I was seeing these placentas on women

1728
1:24:05 --> 1:24:09
who had normal birth, normal babies.

1729
1:24:09 --> 1:24:11
It just didn't add up.

1730
1:24:12 --> 1:24:15
And then we were seeing the larger numbers of loss.

1731
1:24:15 --> 1:24:18
And I was only working two days a week.

1732
1:24:19 --> 1:24:21
That was enough as a midwife,

1733
1:24:21 --> 1:24:23
working 12 and a half hour shifts without lunch break.

1734
1:24:23 --> 1:24:26
Most shifts was quite horrendous.

1735
1:24:27 --> 1:24:31
So I was seeing loss as an increased rate on my days on

1736
1:24:31 --> 1:24:35
than I was previously when I still worked two days a week.

1737
1:24:35 --> 1:24:39
And I started asking questions about the stillbirth rates.

1738
1:24:39 --> 1:24:42
And I wanted to sort of go to these clinical governance

1739
1:24:42 --> 1:24:43
meetings to work out what was going on

1740
1:24:43 --> 1:24:45
with regards to the stillbirth rates.

1741
1:24:45 --> 1:24:47
But it was all very hush hush.

1742
1:24:47 --> 1:24:50
I actually never ever gave a vaccine to a pregnant woman,

1743
1:24:50 --> 1:24:52
not even a flu or a whooping cough.

1744
1:24:52 --> 1:24:53
I never believed in them.

1745
1:24:55 --> 1:25:00
And as just as time went on, so in 2024, last year,

1746
1:25:00 --> 1:25:04
I'd got to the end of my evidence gathering,

1747
1:25:04 --> 1:25:06
enough of my own visual gathering of evidence

1748
1:25:06 --> 1:25:10
and my experience knocking on every single door

1749
1:25:10 --> 1:25:11
as gently as possible.

1750
1:25:11 --> 1:25:14
I actually left last February, I walked out,

1751
1:25:15 --> 1:25:19
not just because of that, but the safety of women.

1752
1:25:19 --> 1:25:21
We were working on labor ward with two midwives.

1753
1:25:21 --> 1:25:24
So long story short, I blew the whistle

1754
1:25:24 --> 1:25:27
and the director of the hospital rang me and told me

1755
1:25:27 --> 1:25:30
that whistleblowers go missing overnight.

1756
1:25:30 --> 1:25:33
So I believe everything these whistleblowers tell you.

1757
1:25:33 --> 1:25:37
I'm just a standard woman in Devon with four children.

1758
1:25:37 --> 1:25:42
I drive a little Ford Focus and I did no harm and do no harm.

1759
1:25:42 --> 1:25:45
So I can understand why people do not speak up

1760
1:25:45 --> 1:25:47
and do not go down this road.

1761
1:25:47 --> 1:25:51
However, the fertility rates in the UK, as you know,

1762
1:25:51 --> 1:25:53
have dropped 1.44 per woman.

1763
1:25:53 --> 1:25:58
And we've now also got a decrease in birth

1764
1:25:58 --> 1:26:00
for the first time since records began,

1765
1:26:00 --> 1:26:02
which shows that death has overtaken birth

1766
1:26:02 --> 1:26:04
for the first time.

1767
1:26:04 --> 1:26:07
So we're in really, really bad place

1768
1:26:07 --> 1:26:09
with this whole situation.

1769
1:26:09 --> 1:26:11
And it's really, really important.

1770
1:26:11 --> 1:26:16
I have shouted my gob off, sorry to speak that way, on X.

1771
1:26:16 --> 1:26:20
And since January, I have got 20,000 followers,

1772
1:26:20 --> 1:26:23
seven million impressions, and every day I post

1773
1:26:23 --> 1:26:25
about 50 times a day with facts and evidence

1774
1:26:25 --> 1:26:29
and newspaper articles and unsafe practices.

1775
1:26:29 --> 1:26:30
And it's-

1776
1:26:30 --> 1:26:33
Victoria, I think we need to connect you to Jim Thorpe,

1777
1:26:33 --> 1:26:36
who is an obstetrician in America.

1778
1:26:36 --> 1:26:40
Yes, I think he does follow me.

1779
1:26:40 --> 1:26:41
But I just wanted to say, Charles,

1780
1:26:41 --> 1:26:43
thank you for everything you did,

1781
1:26:43 --> 1:26:45
because without people like you at the beginning,

1782
1:26:47 --> 1:26:48
I know I was a little bit late to the show,

1783
1:26:48 --> 1:26:50
but we've all got our own journey.

1784
1:26:50 --> 1:26:53
And if I didn't stay, I would never have seen it.

1785
1:26:53 --> 1:26:56
And everyone says, where's your evidence?

1786
1:26:56 --> 1:26:59
Sorry, it doesn't matter that there's no evidence

1787
1:26:59 --> 1:27:00
because you're hiding that.

1788
1:27:00 --> 1:27:02
It's what I've seen with my own eyes.

1789
1:27:02 --> 1:27:05
And we have to sit and pray that this is a spiritual war,

1790
1:27:06 --> 1:27:08
that you are completely right about the birth.

1791
1:27:08 --> 1:27:10
The birth is a portal to our world.

1792
1:27:10 --> 1:27:12
It's the only way we come in.

1793
1:27:12 --> 1:27:14
And it's the only way to harm it is to harm the vessel

1794
1:27:14 --> 1:27:15
and harm the baby.

1795
1:27:16 --> 1:27:17
So thank you.

1796
1:27:19 --> 1:27:20
Yeah, thank you, Victoria.

1797
1:27:20 --> 1:27:23
I should mention that since this vax rollout,

1798
1:27:23 --> 1:27:26
the live birth rate in Canada has plummeted.

1799
1:27:26 --> 1:27:31
The figures for 2023 are 1.26 for Canada.

1800
1:27:32 --> 1:27:34
1.26.

1801
1:27:34 --> 1:27:36
You know, you need, I think it is 2.1

1802
1:27:36 --> 1:27:40
for the population to be able to sustain itself.

1803
1:27:40 --> 1:27:44
Canada is now at one, instead of two, you know, 2.1,

1804
1:27:44 --> 1:27:46
we're at 1.2.

1805
1:27:46 --> 1:27:49
So it is doomed.

1806
1:27:49 --> 1:27:50
This nation is doomed.

1807
1:27:51 --> 1:27:55
Apparently, once you get below 1.4,

1808
1:27:55 --> 1:27:57
you've reached a point of no return.

1809
1:27:57 --> 1:28:00
You're gonna have demographic collapse.

1810
1:28:00 --> 1:28:04
And so Canada is now almost as bad as Japan

1811
1:28:04 --> 1:28:07
and Italy and Spain, which I think are the three worst,

1812
1:28:07 --> 1:28:08
but we're in there.

1813
1:28:08 --> 1:28:10
And it is since this vaccine rollout.

1814
1:28:11 --> 1:28:12
So sad.

1815
1:28:12 --> 1:28:15
So, so desperately sad.

1816
1:28:15 --> 1:28:17
Victoria, I just wanna follow up.

1817
1:28:17 --> 1:28:20
Sorry, were your midwife colleagues

1818
1:28:20 --> 1:28:21
injecting pregnant women?

1819
1:28:21 --> 1:28:24
You said specifically that you didn't do it,

1820
1:28:24 --> 1:28:28
but were your midwife colleagues doing that?

1821
1:28:28 --> 1:28:29
You're not gonna believe when I tell you this,

1822
1:28:29 --> 1:28:33
that during COVID, midwives over here

1823
1:28:33 --> 1:28:37
are on around about 22 pound an hour.

1824
1:28:37 --> 1:28:41
They were encouraging midwives to become vaccinators

1825
1:28:41 --> 1:28:42
at 33 pound an hour.

1826
1:28:42 --> 1:28:46
So the majority of midwives left to become vaccinators.

1827
1:28:46 --> 1:28:49
One of my very close friends,

1828
1:28:49 --> 1:28:53
she pretty much saved up for her house

1829
1:28:53 --> 1:28:55
by being a vaccinator.

1830
1:28:56 --> 1:28:57
And we don't speak now.

1831
1:28:57 --> 1:28:59
And she absolutely loathes me and says,

1832
1:28:59 --> 1:29:02
I've made her life hell and broken her heart and et cetera.

1833
1:29:02 --> 1:29:05
But yes, so lots and lots of people left

1834
1:29:05 --> 1:29:07
to become vaccinators.

1835
1:29:07 --> 1:29:09
And they're just in this dystopia.

1836
1:29:09 --> 1:29:11
They have no idea what's going on.

1837
1:29:11 --> 1:29:12
They have no idea what they've done.

1838
1:29:14 --> 1:29:15
Or do they?

1839
1:29:15 --> 1:29:17
It's blood money, honestly.

1840
1:29:17 --> 1:29:18
It's like doing abortions for money.

1841
1:29:18 --> 1:29:21
Honestly, that, oh dear.

1842
1:29:21 --> 1:29:23
I pray God would have mercy on them.

1843
1:29:23 --> 1:29:25
So, so awful.

1844
1:29:25 --> 1:29:28
So Victoria, you really need to connect with Jim Thorpe

1845
1:29:28 --> 1:29:31
because he together with one of the people

1846
1:29:31 --> 1:29:35
on the call tonight, who's a very, very able journalist

1847
1:29:35 --> 1:29:39
writer has written a book about what you've been talking

1848
1:29:39 --> 1:29:43
about tonight and his source was a midwife from memory.

1849
1:29:43 --> 1:29:47
And she was also talking about calcified placenta.

1850
1:29:49 --> 1:29:54
The problem is midwives are genuinely very, very subservient

1851
1:29:54 --> 1:29:56
and they do not speak up.

1852
1:29:56 --> 1:29:58
We are the most gag profession.

1853
1:29:58 --> 1:30:00
The news over here is all about women

1854
1:30:00 --> 1:30:02
blaming midwives for the death of their babies,

1855
1:30:02 --> 1:30:06
which in some instances is correct and factually correct.

1856
1:30:06 --> 1:30:09
In other instances, there is no midwives version

1857
1:30:09 --> 1:30:12
of events whatsoever, anywhere.

1858
1:30:14 --> 1:30:16
No, I would say that doctors and midwives

1859
1:30:16 --> 1:30:19
are very, very compliance generally.

1860
1:30:19 --> 1:30:20
Yes.

1861
1:30:20 --> 1:30:21
Not me.

1862
1:30:22 --> 1:30:23
All right.

1863
1:30:23 --> 1:30:26
And Victoria on X, how can people follow you?

1864
1:30:26 --> 1:30:28
Can you put that in the chat, please?

1865
1:30:28 --> 1:30:29
Yes.

1866
1:30:29 --> 1:30:31
I already know the site.

1867
1:30:31 --> 1:30:31
I'll do that.

1868
1:30:31 --> 1:30:34
It's at honest underscore midwife.

1869
1:30:34 --> 1:30:35
Thank you.

1870
1:30:35 --> 1:30:38
Another thing I would observe Victoria about midwives,

1871
1:30:38 --> 1:30:41
I've always felt that they've been on the edge of the NHS.

1872
1:30:41 --> 1:30:44
And now, just now, I've just thought to myself,

1873
1:30:44 --> 1:30:46
I wonder whether that was deliberate,

1874
1:30:46 --> 1:30:51
whether it was by design that the midwives were isolated

1875
1:30:51 --> 1:30:54
from other people working in the NHS,

1876
1:30:54 --> 1:30:56
if you understand what I mean.

1877
1:30:56 --> 1:31:00
Yes, in all honesty, birth is not and should not be

1878
1:31:00 --> 1:31:01
medicalised.

1879
1:31:01 --> 1:31:03
Birth is a natural process.

1880
1:31:03 --> 1:31:04
It's not a medical condition to be pregnant.

1881
1:31:04 --> 1:31:08
And I can just add, men do not have babies.

1882
1:31:08 --> 1:31:09
Of course.

1883
1:31:09 --> 1:31:13
So we're in a really difficult place that maternity is not,

1884
1:31:13 --> 1:31:18
and it should not be classed as alongside the role of a nurse.

1885
1:31:18 --> 1:31:21
It's a completely different entity to care.

1886
1:31:21 --> 1:31:26
But I mean, it's in such a state that it isn't just a such a

1887
1:31:27 --> 1:31:30
state, I actually don't know the answer.

1888
1:31:30 --> 1:31:35
And I do think midwives are a complicit majority of them.

1889
1:31:35 --> 1:31:37
They just put their head down.

1890
1:31:37 --> 1:31:40
And that's why I'm pretty much standing alone at the moment.

1891
1:31:40 --> 1:31:42
And it's been, I mean, I've just been called a baby killer

1892
1:31:42 --> 1:31:43
online last year.

1893
1:31:43 --> 1:31:46
So I've now got a defamation claim in the high court.

1894
1:31:46 --> 1:31:48
So I could have been Lucy Letby, you know,

1895
1:31:48 --> 1:31:49
they could have come and arrested me.

1896
1:31:49 --> 1:31:50
It was awful.

1897
1:31:51 --> 1:31:54
What do you think of the Lucy Letby convictions, by the way,

1898
1:31:54 --> 1:31:57
conviction, do you think it was miscarriage of justice?

1899
1:31:57 --> 1:31:59
Well, I think because I understand how they,

1900
1:31:59 --> 1:32:01
and I was a union representative, I must add.

1901
1:32:01 --> 1:32:05
So I've watched them destroy people's lives

1902
1:32:05 --> 1:32:09
through protecting their own.

1903
1:32:09 --> 1:32:11
I have seen it with my own eyes.

1904
1:32:11 --> 1:32:14
So yes, I think there is something very peculiar.

1905
1:32:14 --> 1:32:16
Now the day texting system that we use over here

1906
1:32:16 --> 1:32:21
where you day text internal themes,

1907
1:32:21 --> 1:32:22
they encourage you to do it.

1908
1:32:22 --> 1:32:25
So then they work out what your themes are,

1909
1:32:25 --> 1:32:29
who's day texting, and then you'll be the next target.

1910
1:32:29 --> 1:32:30
That's how they break you down.

1911
1:32:30 --> 1:32:33
So I think from what I've read that Lucy Letby

1912
1:32:33 --> 1:32:36
might have done some internal day texting about a doctor.

1913
1:32:36 --> 1:32:40
Now those day texts go to quite a high volume of people

1914
1:32:40 --> 1:32:41
within the hospital.

1915
1:32:41 --> 1:32:44
It's about 20 people, it depends where you work.

1916
1:32:44 --> 1:32:46
So they all would have been known,

1917
1:32:46 --> 1:32:50
aware of what Lucy potentially was raising.

1918
1:32:50 --> 1:32:51
And they encourage you to do that.

1919
1:32:51 --> 1:32:53
So it's an entrapment.

1920
1:32:54 --> 1:32:57
So I don't know if she's guilty, but we have to remember,

1921
1:32:57 --> 1:33:01
and at the heart of this, there were babies that were murdered

1922
1:33:01 --> 1:33:05
and those parents have to sit there and then question

1923
1:33:05 --> 1:33:07
the police, the structure, the system,

1924
1:33:07 --> 1:33:08
and they won't understand that.

1925
1:33:08 --> 1:33:12
And that is, it's just such a huge miscarriage of justice,

1926
1:33:12 --> 1:33:13
the whole thing.

1927
1:33:14 --> 1:33:15
It's a mess.

1928
1:33:15 --> 1:33:16
Two and two together, Victoria,

1929
1:33:16 --> 1:33:20
relying on what turned out to be very reliable feelings.

1930
1:33:20 --> 1:33:21
I am a whistleblower myself.

1931
1:33:21 --> 1:33:23
I had a five and a half year case

1932
1:33:23 --> 1:33:25
against the British government.

1933
1:33:25 --> 1:33:30
And it was, the more I realized in the end

1934
1:33:30 --> 1:33:33
that the more right I was, the more likely they would prevent

1935
1:33:33 --> 1:33:36
me from achieving my goal.

1936
1:33:36 --> 1:33:37
Yes.

1937
1:33:37 --> 1:33:38
Which was to win the case, of course.

1938
1:33:38 --> 1:33:41
So eventually I withdrew my own appeal

1939
1:33:41 --> 1:33:43
on access to justice grounds.

1940
1:33:44 --> 1:33:45
So I think I agree with you about whistleblowers.

1941
1:33:45 --> 1:33:48
You can believe everything they say.

1942
1:33:48 --> 1:33:48
Yeah.

1943
1:33:48 --> 1:33:50
And that's why they're so dangerous.

1944
1:33:50 --> 1:33:51
That's why they're so dangerous.

1945
1:33:51 --> 1:33:55
Stephen, before we go on,

1946
1:33:56 --> 1:33:59
Celia Farber is here, Victoria,

1947
1:33:59 --> 1:34:01
and Celia has written, I see in the chat,

1948
1:34:01 --> 1:34:03
a book with Jim Thorpe.

1949
1:34:03 --> 1:34:05
Yeah, I didn't want to mention the name

1950
1:34:05 --> 1:34:07
without her permission, but you probably got it.

1951
1:34:07 --> 1:34:12
So yes, so Celia Farber is a very, very able journalist,

1952
1:34:12 --> 1:34:15
author, and she wrote the book for Jim Thorpe,

1953
1:34:15 --> 1:34:17
and he could have chosen anyone to write that book.

1954
1:34:17 --> 1:34:19
So Victoria, I'd really encourage you

1955
1:34:19 --> 1:34:21
to get in contact with Jim Thorpe,

1956
1:34:21 --> 1:34:23
because you have independent information,

1957
1:34:23 --> 1:34:27
which is tying up exactly as far as I know,

1958
1:34:27 --> 1:34:31
with the information he got from the midwife in America,

1959
1:34:31 --> 1:34:32
who he didn't know.

1960
1:34:32 --> 1:34:34
He didn't know her.

1961
1:34:34 --> 1:34:35
Okay.

1962
1:34:35 --> 1:34:39
So Celia, Celia, would you like to say anything

1963
1:34:39 --> 1:34:40
to add to this conversation,

1964
1:34:40 --> 1:34:44
because Victoria's experience is most relevant?

1965
1:34:44 --> 1:34:47
Yeah, Victoria, God bless you.

1966
1:34:49 --> 1:34:52
Such an absolutely extraordinary presentation,

1967
1:34:52 --> 1:34:56
and my heart is pounding about everything we're hearing.

1968
1:34:56 --> 1:35:00
I've lived it for decades as a journalist

1969
1:35:00 --> 1:35:02
going up against these demons.

1970
1:35:02 --> 1:35:05
I did co-author with James Thorpe.

1971
1:35:05 --> 1:35:06
It came out just a couple of months ago.

1972
1:35:06 --> 1:35:11
It's called Sacrifice, and you can find it on Amazon.

1973
1:35:11 --> 1:35:14
It's how the, what was our book called?

1974
1:35:14 --> 1:35:18
Sacrifice, how the deadliest vaccine in history

1975
1:35:18 --> 1:35:20
targeted the most vulnerable.

1976
1:35:22 --> 1:35:25
And if you'd like to connect with him at all,

1977
1:35:25 --> 1:35:27
be happy to connect to you.

1978
1:35:27 --> 1:35:30
One of the stories I tell from our book,

1979
1:35:30 --> 1:35:34
I believe that history, truth should be told

1980
1:35:34 --> 1:35:37
through human stories.

1981
1:35:38 --> 1:35:41
There is a woman in our book, we didn't interview,

1982
1:35:41 --> 1:35:45
I didn't interview her, because she doesn't talk anymore.

1983
1:35:45 --> 1:35:47
She lost eight babies, eight,

1984
1:35:49 --> 1:35:51
all trimesters, first, second, and third.

1985
1:35:51 --> 1:35:55
She had previously had a healthy pregnancy and delivery.

1986
1:35:55 --> 1:35:57
She has a four-year-old healthy child.

1987
1:35:58 --> 1:36:03
And the in-laws were friends of Dr. Thorpe.

1988
1:36:04 --> 1:36:07
So we connected with them and they told,

1989
1:36:07 --> 1:36:09
one of the things that they talk about,

1990
1:36:09 --> 1:36:12
which I think we all don't talk about quite enough,

1991
1:36:12 --> 1:36:15
is how the silencing works.

1992
1:36:15 --> 1:36:18
Like this family had gotten to the point,

1993
1:36:18 --> 1:36:20
she had said, as she was losing all these babies,

1994
1:36:20 --> 1:36:25
now she was, she had gotten a few vaccines.

1995
1:36:25 --> 1:36:26
I don't know exactly how many.

1996
1:36:26 --> 1:36:28
She didn't really want to, but she was talked into it.

1997
1:36:28 --> 1:36:30
So she had a previously healthy child.

1998
1:36:31 --> 1:36:33
And then she starts losing these babies,

1999
1:36:34 --> 1:36:36
at least one set of twins.

2000
1:36:36 --> 1:36:41
And the last loss was pretty much at delivery.

2001
1:36:41 --> 1:36:45
So eight babies lost.

2002
1:36:45 --> 1:36:50
And she stopped being able to talk at all.

2003
1:36:50 --> 1:36:52
She kind of went into a shell

2004
1:36:52 --> 1:36:56
that was just totally non-verbal.

2005
1:36:56 --> 1:36:58
And she instructed the whole family,

2006
1:36:58 --> 1:37:01
don't say anything.

2007
1:37:01 --> 1:37:03
I'm not gonna tell you when I'm pregnant.

2008
1:37:03 --> 1:37:05
You can't have any information.

2009
1:37:05 --> 1:37:10
So the whole family on all sides is now in this strange,

2010
1:37:11 --> 1:37:16
grief-racked silence where they just can't really talk at all.

2011
1:37:16 --> 1:37:18
And I just, that's like a,

2012
1:37:18 --> 1:37:20
it's just something that doesn't get talked about a lot.

2013
1:37:24 --> 1:37:26
What happens to the whole family?

2014
1:37:29 --> 1:37:33
Yeah, it's, I can't tell you how many dead babies

2015
1:37:33 --> 1:37:38
I've held in my hands, all gestations.

2016
1:37:38 --> 1:37:43
And that cry from a woman, it's so,

2017
1:37:48 --> 1:37:51
I can't, it's like nothing you've ever heard.

2018
1:37:51 --> 1:37:53
Crime evil is the word.

2019
1:37:53 --> 1:37:55
Yes, yes.

2020
1:37:55 --> 1:37:56
But it's like-

2021
1:37:56 --> 1:37:58
Yes, it must be otherworldly.

2022
1:37:58 --> 1:38:01
It's so out of body.

2023
1:38:01 --> 1:38:04
And you almost say, I hope I never have to feel

2024
1:38:04 --> 1:38:05
what that feels like.

2025
1:38:06 --> 1:38:09
Yeah, I think it is the apex of the evil

2026
1:38:09 --> 1:38:12
or the nadir or whatever the word is of the evil,

2027
1:38:12 --> 1:38:17
because the hope of life and the joy is so high

2028
1:38:17 --> 1:38:18
when a woman is pregnant.

2029
1:38:18 --> 1:38:20
It's so evil.

2030
1:38:20 --> 1:38:21
It's incomprehensible.

2031
1:38:21 --> 1:38:23
I mean, I've had four children.

2032
1:38:23 --> 1:38:26
So I've walked each type of delivery

2033
1:38:26 --> 1:38:27
and I've also had a home birth.

2034
1:38:27 --> 1:38:31
So I'm a believer in medicine.

2035
1:38:31 --> 1:38:33
We need acute medicine 100%.

2036
1:38:33 --> 1:38:35
We do need that, but we do not need birth

2037
1:38:35 --> 1:38:38
to be medicalized at all.

2038
1:38:38 --> 1:38:41
People have been shouting about this for decades.

2039
1:38:43 --> 1:38:47
To be honest, I'm still trying to get my head around

2040
1:38:47 --> 1:38:51
how I get this, to keep me safe,

2041
1:38:51 --> 1:38:53
but to get my voice because it's working

2042
1:38:54 --> 1:38:57
outside the House of the Parliament without getting arrested.

2043
1:38:57 --> 1:39:01
And I somehow just shout the hell out of all of this.

2044
1:39:01 --> 1:39:04
I mean, I'm saying things like they are selling placentas

2045
1:39:04 --> 1:39:07
and stem cells for 50,000 pounds.

2046
1:39:08 --> 1:39:09
Wow.

2047
1:39:09 --> 1:39:12
Well, Celia, what you were talking about

2048
1:39:12 --> 1:39:16
last time we talked, that was very, very,

2049
1:39:16 --> 1:39:17
I'm not gonna mention it now,

2050
1:39:17 --> 1:39:20
if you don't want to mention it, but that was very, very-

2051
1:39:20 --> 1:39:21
I just don't remember.

2052
1:39:21 --> 1:39:23
What did we talk about?

2053
1:39:23 --> 1:39:24
Lennart Nilsson.

2054
1:39:25 --> 1:39:27
Oh, oh, oh sure.

2055
1:39:27 --> 1:39:29
Do you want me to, okay.

2056
1:39:29 --> 1:39:34
So yeah, Lennart Nilsson was a huge international,

2057
1:39:34 --> 1:39:37
iconic, famous photographer who came out in the,

2058
1:39:37 --> 1:39:39
it must've been the 1960s,

2059
1:39:39 --> 1:39:42
with a book called A Child is Born,

2060
1:39:42 --> 1:39:44
I think was the English translation.

2061
1:39:44 --> 1:39:46
I'm half Swedish and grew up in Sweden.

2062
1:39:47 --> 1:39:49
And can you all picture this?

2063
1:39:49 --> 1:39:53
It was these images of the babies,

2064
1:39:53 --> 1:39:57
what we thought was gestating in the womb and how they grew.

2065
1:39:57 --> 1:40:01
And so it was like supposed to be this spectacular,

2066
1:40:01 --> 1:40:05
innovative photography in the womb.

2067
1:40:05 --> 1:40:07
If you're all, if you can picture that,

2068
1:40:07 --> 1:40:08
if you know what I'm talking about,

2069
1:40:08 --> 1:40:10
it was the biggest selling photography book in the world.

2070
1:40:10 --> 1:40:12
It was connected to Carolinia

2071
1:40:12 --> 1:40:15
and the Nobel Institute and the whole nine yards.

2072
1:40:15 --> 1:40:20
Well, it came to light fairly recently in Sweden

2073
1:40:20 --> 1:40:24
through his stepdaughter that the babies were not alive.

2074
1:40:24 --> 1:40:29
He had, Sweden was at the forefront of abortion

2075
1:40:29 --> 1:40:34
in the world, which is predictable for the way Sweden is.

2076
1:40:34 --> 1:40:39
And they had so many abortions that weren't being done

2077
1:40:39 --> 1:40:40
in the rest of the world.

2078
1:40:40 --> 1:40:45
And the Swedish medical system,

2079
1:40:45 --> 1:40:47
which was connected to the Royal Family

2080
1:40:47 --> 1:40:50
and the Nobel committee and Karolinska and all of that said,

2081
1:40:50 --> 1:40:55
well, let's bring in a photographer.

2082
1:40:55 --> 1:40:57
And they wanted to kind of scientize

2083
1:40:57 --> 1:40:59
or do something with all of these.

2084
1:40:59 --> 1:41:01
Sorry, this is so ghoulish, but all these fetuses.

2085
1:41:01 --> 1:41:04
So they realized that if they put them in it,

2086
1:41:04 --> 1:41:06
they were in jars that were lit up.

2087
1:41:06 --> 1:41:08
They were in jars.

2088
1:41:08 --> 1:41:11
And the whole world believed

2089
1:41:11 --> 1:41:14
that these were gestating babies.

2090
1:41:14 --> 1:41:17
So I wrote a story about it on my sub stack.

2091
1:41:18 --> 1:41:20
I'm really shocked by it.

2092
1:41:20 --> 1:41:21
I think it's...

2093
1:41:22 --> 1:41:25
I mean, this goes a lot deeper than I think

2094
1:41:25 --> 1:41:27
when I was listening to the call before

2095
1:41:27 --> 1:41:31
and we're talking about this very biblical religious.

2096
1:41:31 --> 1:41:36
If you think before Big Pharma, whatever these monsters are,

2097
1:41:36 --> 1:41:39
battle monster, whatever you wanna call them, I don't know.

2098
1:41:39 --> 1:41:41
I'm still working through a lot of those

2099
1:41:41 --> 1:41:42
through my own prayer or meditation.

2100
1:41:42 --> 1:41:44
However, I get through this,

2101
1:41:44 --> 1:41:47
but it makes sense why there is such a battle

2102
1:41:47 --> 1:41:49
for delayed core clamping.

2103
1:41:49 --> 1:41:51
Why are we arguing over clamping a core?

2104
1:41:51 --> 1:41:53
Well, they want the stem cells.

2105
1:41:53 --> 1:41:54
They want the placenta cells.

2106
1:41:54 --> 1:41:57
Why do stem cells researchers still walk

2107
1:41:57 --> 1:42:00
into labor war during COVID when women were laboring alone

2108
1:42:00 --> 1:42:04
because they couldn't have a mother there or a partner?

2109
1:42:04 --> 1:42:06
None of them need logical sense

2110
1:42:06 --> 1:42:09
in my critical analytical brain.

2111
1:42:09 --> 1:42:14
So for me, I realized this is not just as we see it,

2112
1:42:14 --> 1:42:16
as you just going and having a baby,

2113
1:42:16 --> 1:42:20
there is a huge agenda behind birth.

2114
1:42:20 --> 1:42:22
And it goes back, you could even go back

2115
1:42:22 --> 1:42:26
and pick up a book from the 14, 1500s of the witch trials,

2116
1:42:26 --> 1:42:30
the church forcing women to only have their babies

2117
1:42:30 --> 1:42:32
under the care of the church and not anybody else.

2118
1:42:32 --> 1:42:35
No women, no doulas, no wise women.

2119
1:42:35 --> 1:42:39
50,000 women and men and children were burnt across Europe

2120
1:42:39 --> 1:42:44
for over 300 years for being and healers.

2121
1:42:44 --> 1:42:45
This has been going on.

2122
1:42:47 --> 1:42:49
So what I think-

2123
1:42:49 --> 1:42:50
Charles, we've forgotten our guest.

2124
1:42:50 --> 1:42:51
We haven't forgotten-

2125
1:42:51 --> 1:42:52
Sorry.

2126
1:42:52 --> 1:42:53
That's right.

2127
1:42:53 --> 1:42:55
Sorry, Charles, sorry.

2128
1:42:55 --> 1:42:56
No, no, don't apologize.

2129
1:42:56 --> 1:43:00
I asked Celia to make herself known

2130
1:43:00 --> 1:43:01
because we have to come back to Charles.

2131
1:43:01 --> 1:43:03
We've got hands up.

2132
1:43:03 --> 1:43:04
I'll be quick Charles,

2133
1:43:04 --> 1:43:07
but I just wanted to also say to Charles himself,

2134
1:43:07 --> 1:43:08
thank you so much.

2135
1:43:08 --> 1:43:09
God bless you.

2136
1:43:09 --> 1:43:10
Your story is extraordinary.

2137
1:43:10 --> 1:43:13
And I had a question.

2138
1:43:13 --> 1:43:16
May I Charles real quick for Dr. Hoff?

2139
1:43:16 --> 1:43:17
Is it Hoff or Hoffy?

2140
1:43:17 --> 1:43:19
How do you pronounce it?

2141
1:43:19 --> 1:43:21
Charles, your video is off.

2142
1:43:21 --> 1:43:22
I don't know whether you are there

2143
1:43:22 --> 1:43:24
or whether you're having a break maybe, I don't know.

2144
1:43:29 --> 1:43:31
Okay, maybe he's taking a break.

2145
1:43:31 --> 1:43:32
I was just wondering,

2146
1:43:32 --> 1:43:34
maybe somebody else will bring this up,

2147
1:43:35 --> 1:43:38
but the impact of this kind of blighting attack

2148
1:43:38 --> 1:43:43
on a pure-hearted, pure-minded dissident

2149
1:43:43 --> 1:43:45
such as Dr. Hoff.

2150
1:43:45 --> 1:43:47
Here is Charles now, he's back.

2151
1:43:47 --> 1:43:48
So-

2152
1:43:48 --> 1:43:49
Hi, I'm just so,

2153
1:43:51 --> 1:43:54
I have so much respect.

2154
1:43:54 --> 1:43:56
And what I was thinking

2155
1:43:56 --> 1:43:59
as you were telling your unbelievable story

2156
1:43:59 --> 1:44:02
is about the aftermath of it all

2157
1:44:02 --> 1:44:06
and how you discovered that there was even the close,

2158
1:44:06 --> 1:44:08
the person who's supposed to be the closest one to you,

2159
1:44:08 --> 1:44:13
your wife, was somehow co-opted by the dark forces

2160
1:44:13 --> 1:44:14
and turned against you.

2161
1:44:14 --> 1:44:16
So I wondered something about the aftermath,

2162
1:44:16 --> 1:44:20
how you have, what you have learned, how you have fared,

2163
1:44:20 --> 1:44:23
how has it been for you to come out of all of this?

2164
1:44:28 --> 1:44:31
You're muted Charles, you're muted.

2165
1:44:31 --> 1:44:32
Okay, yeah, thank you.

2166
1:44:34 --> 1:44:37
This is a spiritual war.

2167
1:44:37 --> 1:44:39
And the fact that they are,

2168
1:44:40 --> 1:44:43
this is a war against humanity

2169
1:44:43 --> 1:44:45
and it's a war against the family.

2170
1:44:45 --> 1:44:47
And I think that's why they're going for children,

2171
1:44:47 --> 1:44:50
because children are the future of humanity.

2172
1:44:52 --> 1:44:54
And so,

2173
1:44:56 --> 1:44:59
I just see all of this,

2174
1:44:59 --> 1:45:02
whether it is the betrayal by my wife

2175
1:45:02 --> 1:45:06
and the betrayal of ethical doctors

2176
1:45:06 --> 1:45:09
by their licensing authorities

2177
1:45:09 --> 1:45:14
and the persecution of those that speak truth

2178
1:45:15 --> 1:45:18
and saying that they're speaking misinformation.

2179
1:45:18 --> 1:45:19
You know, the Bible says,

2180
1:45:19 --> 1:45:22
woe to those who call what is good evil

2181
1:45:22 --> 1:45:23
and what is evil good.

2182
1:45:23 --> 1:45:26
I mean, they have turned truth on its head.

2183
1:45:26 --> 1:45:29
And those that spread the most misinformation,

2184
1:45:29 --> 1:45:32
most misinformation accuse other people

2185
1:45:32 --> 1:45:33
of doing exactly what they're doing,

2186
1:45:33 --> 1:45:36
which is spreading misinformation.

2187
1:45:36 --> 1:45:40
But this is a global,

2188
1:45:40 --> 1:45:42
this is a satanic attack.

2189
1:45:42 --> 1:45:46
And the level of deception and division and hatred

2190
1:45:46 --> 1:45:51
that we've seen within families, within friendships,

2191
1:45:53 --> 1:45:55
people have just had their lives torn apart

2192
1:45:55 --> 1:45:56
in the last five years

2193
1:45:56 --> 1:45:59
in a way that we have never seen before.

2194
1:45:59 --> 1:46:02
And so I think there's a huge spiritual component to this.

2195
1:46:02 --> 1:46:05
And so how have I fared?

2196
1:46:05 --> 1:46:08
I have fared because I have a strong faith in God.

2197
1:46:08 --> 1:46:11
And I truly believe

2198
1:46:12 --> 1:46:14
that evil does not have a free rein,

2199
1:46:14 --> 1:46:16
that God is in control

2200
1:46:16 --> 1:46:20
and he will allow a certain amount of evil

2201
1:46:20 --> 1:46:22
within limits for a certain amount of time

2202
1:46:22 --> 1:46:25
and he will hold people accountable.

2203
1:46:25 --> 1:46:27
And so I don't have fear

2204
1:46:27 --> 1:46:31
because I don't feel that the evil is out of control.

2205
1:46:31 --> 1:46:34
I believe that God limits it.

2206
1:46:36 --> 1:46:40
And I think sometimes God gives

2207
1:46:42 --> 1:46:44
godless nations, godless rulers.

2208
1:46:44 --> 1:46:45
And that's what we've had in Canada.

2209
1:46:45 --> 1:46:48
I mean, we've had Trudeau for nine years.

2210
1:46:48 --> 1:46:52
I mean, he's the most evil, dishonest person imaginable,

2211
1:46:52 --> 1:46:54
but I think he was God's judgment upon Canada

2212
1:46:54 --> 1:46:57
because Canada had shaken its fist at God.

2213
1:46:57 --> 1:47:00
Canada aborts 100,000 babies a year.

2214
1:47:00 --> 1:47:03
Canada now is the world leader in euthanasia,

2215
1:47:03 --> 1:47:06
getting rid of the disabled and the elderly and the sick

2216
1:47:07 --> 1:47:09
to save healthcare dollars.

2217
1:47:11 --> 1:47:14
I think up until the end of 2023,

2218
1:47:14 --> 1:47:16
they had killed 60,000 people.

2219
1:47:16 --> 1:47:19
Doctors aren't supposed to kill their patients.

2220
1:47:19 --> 1:47:22
And so they're killing the most vulnerable,

2221
1:47:22 --> 1:47:24
which are the babies in the womb

2222
1:47:24 --> 1:47:27
and the frail and the disabled and the elderly.

2223
1:47:29 --> 1:47:30
Everything has been turned on its head,

2224
1:47:30 --> 1:47:33
but I see a big spiritual component to this.

2225
1:47:34 --> 1:47:37
All right, Celia, thank you for the question.

2226
1:47:37 --> 1:47:40
And that's why we come to these meetings

2227
1:47:40 --> 1:47:42
and people watching this recording,

2228
1:47:42 --> 1:47:46
to be reminded of what we need to be doing

2229
1:47:46 --> 1:47:49
because there's a deeply spiritual front

2230
1:47:49 --> 1:47:50
to this whole exercise.

2231
1:47:50 --> 1:47:53
And of course, it makes wonderful stuff

2232
1:47:53 --> 1:47:58
to be talking about the complexity of how these jabs work

2233
1:47:58 --> 1:48:00
in the meantime killing babies.

2234
1:48:00 --> 1:48:04
And in Australia, every state now allows

2235
1:48:04 --> 1:48:07
full term abortions, but if you raise that, Charles,

2236
1:48:07 --> 1:48:10
this is the attack, I'm wondering if it happens in Canada.

2237
1:48:10 --> 1:48:12
In Australia, if you say, sorry,

2238
1:48:12 --> 1:48:15
most people are totally unaware

2239
1:48:15 --> 1:48:17
that you can have full term abortions

2240
1:48:17 --> 1:48:20
and Victoria has pointed out to us why, of course,

2241
1:48:21 --> 1:48:23
the sale of body parts, the sale of stem cells,

2242
1:48:23 --> 1:48:25
and people are horrified.

2243
1:48:25 --> 1:48:27
I've had fights with highly intelligent people

2244
1:48:27 --> 1:48:30
who don't believe me that you can do this.

2245
1:48:30 --> 1:48:31
I know you've got to get all sorts of approval,

2246
1:48:31 --> 1:48:35
that bullshit, and it is as evil as it comes.

2247
1:48:35 --> 1:48:37
And if you raise it, they then go,

2248
1:48:37 --> 1:48:41
oh, you're a far right Christian activist.

2249
1:48:41 --> 1:48:43
You know, that's the attack.

2250
1:48:43 --> 1:48:46
So everyone, please be aware of it

2251
1:48:46 --> 1:48:48
and look in your own country,

2252
1:48:48 --> 1:48:53
what are the rules around full term abortions, full term,

2253
1:48:53 --> 1:48:56
not just first trimester, it is evil incarnate.

2254
1:48:56 --> 1:48:59
So thank you, Celia, for that.

2255
1:48:59 --> 1:49:00
We've got to keep moving on to questions

2256
1:49:00 --> 1:49:03
and we're finishing in 40 minutes.

2257
1:49:03 --> 1:49:05
So, Gary.

2258
1:49:06 --> 1:49:08
Yeah, hi, Dr. Hoff.

2259
1:49:09 --> 1:49:14
Oh gosh, unlike you, usually I like to avoid characterizing

2260
1:49:15 --> 1:49:18
because it's like judgment, but I'm going to make an exception.

2261
1:49:18 --> 1:49:23
You're a bright and gifted speaker, unlike me.

2262
1:49:24 --> 1:49:28
But you came onto my radar when someone

2263
1:49:30 --> 1:49:33
forwarded a message from Roger Hodgkinson

2264
1:49:34 --> 1:49:38
to the associated group on Telegram,

2265
1:49:38 --> 1:49:40
Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics on Telegram,

2266
1:49:40 --> 1:49:43
which I invite you and everyone else to join.

2267
1:49:43 --> 1:49:48
We have 355 people there, not a lot of discussion,

2268
1:49:48 --> 1:49:52
but some of them are just quiet.

2269
1:49:52 --> 1:49:55
But if you could, I know you're on Telegram

2270
1:49:55 --> 1:49:59
because I see you there, but Roger,

2271
1:49:59 --> 1:50:04
or post, you were, first of all, just really quickly,

2272
1:50:05 --> 1:50:08
do you speak with Roger Hodgkinson?

2273
1:50:08 --> 1:50:11
Roger Hodgkinson, I think it is not Hodgkinson,

2274
1:50:11 --> 1:50:12
it's Hodgkinson.

2275
1:50:13 --> 1:50:16
Yes, occasionally, I don't have a lot of communication

2276
1:50:16 --> 1:50:19
with him, occasionally I've spoken with him.

2277
1:50:20 --> 1:50:25
Okay, and he had a video there where you're speaking at CHD

2278
1:50:25 --> 1:50:30
and Catherine Austin Fitz is in the thumbnail,

2279
1:50:30 --> 1:50:32
in a thumbnail there on the video.

2280
1:50:33 --> 1:50:38
And he typed up, I guess, something that you said,

2281
1:50:38 --> 1:50:41
I knew they wanted to reduce the population,

2282
1:50:41 --> 1:50:44
they've been very clear about that,

2283
1:50:44 --> 1:50:48
and the COVID jab mandates in square brackets made no sense.

2284
1:50:48 --> 1:50:50
So clearly they wanted to reduce fertility,

2285
1:50:50 --> 1:50:53
there's no other logical reason to vaccinate

2286
1:50:53 --> 1:50:56
all these university students.

2287
1:50:56 --> 1:51:01
So I'm curious to know how, since it seems to me,

2288
1:51:02 --> 1:51:04
and to me, I'm like Forrest Gump,

2289
1:51:04 --> 1:51:08
you know, I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is.

2290
1:51:08 --> 1:51:12
In my case, I'm not a good speaker,

2291
1:51:12 --> 1:51:15
but I know what the COVID scam really is.

2292
1:51:15 --> 1:51:19
It's the fertility stupid that for some of you,

2293
1:51:19 --> 1:51:20
you're too young to understand that reference,

2294
1:51:20 --> 1:51:23
it goes way back to when Clinton was running for president.

2295
1:51:23 --> 1:51:27
But I have this Asperger's thing going on

2296
1:51:27 --> 1:51:30
where I can lock out the whole rest of the world

2297
1:51:30 --> 1:51:35
for two weeks and just totally deep dive on something.

2298
1:51:35 --> 1:51:38
So I got some, for some reason onto that,

2299
1:51:38 --> 1:51:41
I'm wondering how you came around,

2300
1:51:41 --> 1:51:44
I have boatloads of notes that I'd love to share with you,

2301
1:51:44 --> 1:51:47
you're in BCM in Seattle, so we're in the same time zone.

2302
1:51:47 --> 1:51:51
Please, can I have a time between you and you and I

2303
1:51:51 --> 1:51:54
to talk on the phone or on Zoom or on Telegram or something

2304
1:51:54 --> 1:51:56
so I could share some of these notes?

2305
1:51:56 --> 1:52:00
How did you notice the fertility thing?

2306
1:52:00 --> 1:52:03
Do you remember that came onto your radar?

2307
1:52:04 --> 1:52:09
Well, I was aware of it from agenda 21 initially,

2308
1:52:09 --> 1:52:12
and I knew that the Georgia Guidestones

2309
1:52:13 --> 1:52:16
said exactly the same thing, that whoever put the,

2310
1:52:16 --> 1:52:20
they mysteriously appeared and then mysteriously disappeared

2311
1:52:20 --> 1:52:22
about a decade later, I don't know how long

2312
1:52:22 --> 1:52:23
the Georgia Guidestones were there,

2313
1:52:23 --> 1:52:27
but they also mentioned that the world's population

2314
1:52:27 --> 1:52:29
needed to be reduced to 500 million.

2315
1:52:29 --> 1:52:33
And the United Nations has repeated it again

2316
1:52:33 --> 1:52:34
in agenda 2030.

2317
1:52:34 --> 1:52:37
So, and apparently according to the,

2318
1:52:37 --> 1:52:40
they've taken that now off the internet, that part,

2319
1:52:40 --> 1:52:45
but people that have the original version of agenda 2030,

2320
1:52:45 --> 1:52:47
it was in there to reduce the world,

2321
1:52:47 --> 1:52:49
but I think they now, you know,

2322
1:52:49 --> 1:52:51
they'll usually give you a little glimpse

2323
1:52:51 --> 1:52:54
of what they're doing and then they hide it again.

2324
1:52:54 --> 1:52:59
So I had known about this United Nations wish

2325
1:53:00 --> 1:53:02
to reduce the world's population

2326
1:53:02 --> 1:53:04
and had wondered how they would do it.

2327
1:53:04 --> 1:53:09
And, you know, HIV, which is another laboratory virus

2328
1:53:10 --> 1:53:15
with a patent on it, had I think only killed about 35 million.

2329
1:53:15 --> 1:53:20
So it hadn't done much, but I really thought

2330
1:53:21 --> 1:53:24
that they would do it through vaccinations

2331
1:53:24 --> 1:53:28
because Bill Gates had said they were gonna do it

2332
1:53:28 --> 1:53:32
with vaccinations and they had done it five times before

2333
1:53:32 --> 1:53:35
to reduce fertility in other countries,

2334
1:53:35 --> 1:53:37
they're in various different places.

2335
1:53:37 --> 1:53:39
And so, you know, getting back to one of the first things

2336
1:53:39 --> 1:53:43
I said that the strongest predictor of future behavior

2337
1:53:43 --> 1:53:44
is past behavior.

2338
1:53:44 --> 1:53:47
Look what they did in the past and realize

2339
1:53:47 --> 1:53:49
that they'll quite likely do that again.

2340
1:53:49 --> 1:53:54
And vaccines I think are a very good way of doing it

2341
1:53:54 --> 1:53:57
because you coerce people with fear and you believe,

2342
1:53:57 --> 1:54:00
you tell them that this will keep them safe,

2343
1:54:00 --> 1:54:02
but meanwhile, it's a Trojan horse

2344
1:54:02 --> 1:54:05
that has got something else in it that they don't know about.

2345
1:54:05 --> 1:54:09
Yeah, well, I wanna give you the information I have

2346
1:54:09 --> 1:54:12
that leads to the notion, my theory,

2347
1:54:12 --> 1:54:17
that Pfizer and Moderna shots, two initial shots

2348
1:54:17 --> 1:54:21
followed by boosters every six months to a year,

2349
1:54:21 --> 1:54:24
those match mammal sterilization

2350
1:54:24 --> 1:54:27
called porcine zona pellucida.

2351
1:54:28 --> 1:54:31
And then the J&J and AstraZeneca shots,

2352
1:54:31 --> 1:54:34
single initial injection followed by boosters

2353
1:54:34 --> 1:54:36
every six months to a year,

2354
1:54:36 --> 1:54:40
match the animal sterilization called gonicon.

2355
1:54:41 --> 1:54:44
And so I have all those notes I'd like to share with you

2356
1:54:44 --> 1:54:45
sometime if I can please.

2357
1:54:45 --> 1:54:48
And thank you very much for your time.

2358
1:54:48 --> 1:54:50
Other hands up.

2359
1:54:50 --> 1:54:52
All right, we'll make that happen.

2360
1:54:52 --> 1:54:53
We'll make that happen.

2361
1:54:53 --> 1:54:56
So Gary, if you can't, if Dr. Hoff doesn't wanna put

2362
1:54:56 --> 1:54:58
his email address in the chat,

2363
1:54:58 --> 1:55:00
you can email me or Charles

2364
1:55:00 --> 1:55:03
and we'll get it to Charles Hoff.

2365
1:55:03 --> 1:55:05
Thanks, we'll link you guys.

2366
1:55:05 --> 1:55:06
I'm trying to find out,

2367
1:55:06 --> 1:55:08
how do I put a general message in the chat?

2368
1:55:11 --> 1:55:13
I'm locked on a direct message.

2369
1:55:13 --> 1:55:15
How do I change it to?

2370
1:55:15 --> 1:55:17
No, just click on the down, hang on, Stephen,

2371
1:55:17 --> 1:55:20
click on the down arrow, Charles.

2372
1:55:20 --> 1:55:21
The down arrow, okay.

2373
1:55:21 --> 1:55:22
On the name.

2374
1:55:23 --> 1:55:25
Oh, on the name, okay.

2375
1:55:25 --> 1:55:27
Ah, okay, okay, okay, good.

2376
1:55:28 --> 1:55:29
Yeah, great.

2377
1:55:29 --> 1:55:31
Stephen, Stephen, we just, two of us giving instructions

2378
1:55:31 --> 1:55:32
at the same time doesn't work.

2379
1:55:32 --> 1:55:33
Okay, okay.

2380
1:55:33 --> 1:55:34
Absolutely.

2381
1:55:34 --> 1:55:36
I've put my email address in the chat.

2382
1:55:36 --> 1:55:38
It doesn't work at all, I agree, Charles.

2383
1:55:38 --> 1:55:41
Okay, Charles's address is there.

2384
1:55:41 --> 1:55:44
Gary, so all of you please share relevant information.

2385
1:55:44 --> 1:55:46
Thank you, Gary.

2386
1:55:46 --> 1:55:47
JB.

2387
1:55:49 --> 1:55:52
JB, then, JB from Massachusetts,

2388
1:55:52 --> 1:55:56
and Theresa, Therese from Australia,

2389
1:55:56 --> 1:55:58
then Jim from East Coast of America,

2390
1:55:58 --> 1:55:59
and Lex from Canada.

2391
1:55:59 --> 1:56:00
We've got four more,

2392
1:56:00 --> 1:56:01
and then we're finishing in half an hour.

2393
1:56:01 --> 1:56:02
Go, John.

2394
1:56:02 --> 1:56:03
All right, thank you.

2395
1:56:03 --> 1:56:05
I'll try to go quickly.

2396
1:56:05 --> 1:56:06
Hi, Dr. Hoff.

2397
1:56:08 --> 1:56:10
Just to clear up something, Charles,

2398
1:56:10 --> 1:56:12
from earlier, the Federation of State Medical Boards

2399
1:56:12 --> 1:56:16
is an NGO, and they kind of gather together

2400
1:56:16 --> 1:56:18
all the medical certification boards,

2401
1:56:18 --> 1:56:20
which is different from the licensing boards.

2402
1:56:20 --> 1:56:24
In the United States, we have a two kind of tier system.

2403
1:56:24 --> 1:56:25
One is the governmental bodies.

2404
1:56:25 --> 1:56:28
Every state has state licensing boards.

2405
1:56:28 --> 1:56:30
So they license the doctors, the lawyers,

2406
1:56:30 --> 1:56:31
the funeral directors,

2407
1:56:31 --> 1:56:33
and they have control over them in that manner.

2408
1:56:33 --> 1:56:36
If anybody steps on a line, they'll pull their license.

2409
1:56:36 --> 1:56:38
The board certifications,

2410
1:56:38 --> 1:56:43
you can't really work in a hospital without a, say,

2411
1:56:43 --> 1:56:46
American Board of Internal Medicine certification.

2412
1:56:46 --> 1:56:47
And since they instituted the,

2413
1:56:48 --> 1:56:51
you have to re-up every 10 years.

2414
1:56:51 --> 1:56:52
So you have to take the test again,

2415
1:56:52 --> 1:56:55
and it costs like three, four grand to take the test.

2416
1:56:55 --> 1:56:57
So they've created an annuity cash business

2417
1:56:57 --> 1:56:59
through the Federation of,

2418
1:56:59 --> 1:57:01
well, through the American Board of Internal Medicine,

2419
1:57:01 --> 1:57:02
but there are many others.

2420
1:57:02 --> 1:57:03
American Board of Family Medicine,

2421
1:57:03 --> 1:57:05
pediatrics, and everything.

2422
1:57:05 --> 1:57:06
They all agree.

2423
1:57:06 --> 1:57:09
But, John, Charles is talking about an international body,

2424
1:57:09 --> 1:57:13
which all these regulatory bodies belong to

2425
1:57:13 --> 1:57:15
without us being aware.

2426
1:57:15 --> 1:57:16
At least I wasn't aware of it.

2427
1:57:16 --> 1:57:21
Yeah, it's a RICO crime organization is what it is.

2428
1:57:21 --> 1:57:23
And I was just gonna explain how the money comes up,

2429
1:57:23 --> 1:57:25
but we could set that aside

2430
1:57:25 --> 1:57:26
so I can get to Dr. Hoff here.

2431
1:57:27 --> 1:57:29
But, John, I think you were talking about just America,

2432
1:57:29 --> 1:57:30
and I'm saying it's international.

2433
1:57:30 --> 1:57:31
That's the point.

2434
1:57:31 --> 1:57:35
Oh, but I wanted to say that we have two separate things.

2435
1:57:35 --> 1:57:37
So there's the certification boards

2436
1:57:37 --> 1:57:39
that's not the government.

2437
1:57:39 --> 1:57:41
And you don't have to bow to them

2438
1:57:41 --> 1:57:44
except that the hospitals won't let you operate.

2439
1:57:44 --> 1:57:46
You can't sign out a room for surgery.

2440
1:57:48 --> 1:57:50
And they attack you with two different points.

2441
1:57:52 --> 1:57:54
What Charles is talking about, John,

2442
1:57:54 --> 1:57:55
I don't think you quite understand.

2443
1:57:55 --> 1:57:58
So it was the regulatory bodies are beholden

2444
1:57:58 --> 1:58:03
to this worldwide regulator body regulator, if you like.

2445
1:58:05 --> 1:58:08
Yeah, but American states would never bow down

2446
1:58:08 --> 1:58:09
to some international body.

2447
1:58:09 --> 1:58:12
The other states are sovereign.

2448
1:58:12 --> 1:58:13
I'm not saying they would,

2449
1:58:13 --> 1:58:14
but the point is that it exists,

2450
1:58:14 --> 1:58:16
and we didn't know about this.

2451
1:58:16 --> 1:58:17
Oh, I'm sorry.

2452
1:58:17 --> 1:58:18
I thought everything.

2453
1:58:18 --> 1:58:20
Okay, now I get it.

2454
1:58:20 --> 1:58:21
Yeah.

2455
1:58:22 --> 1:58:27
All right, so the CVSTs, big,

2456
1:58:27 --> 1:58:31
I mean, just look at the second chapter in my book.

2457
1:58:31 --> 1:58:31
There was a number,

2458
1:58:31 --> 1:58:35
Eden McDonald was 17 years old, had a CVST.

2459
1:58:35 --> 1:58:37
That was right after the shot.

2460
1:58:37 --> 1:58:38
Started with a headache, headache got worse,

2461
1:58:38 --> 1:58:40
went to the doctor twice,

2462
1:58:40 --> 1:58:42
here, take some Tylenol, go home.

2463
1:58:42 --> 1:58:43
So she got her second shot.

2464
1:58:43 --> 1:58:46
She had a CVST and died.

2465
1:58:46 --> 1:58:47
Diane Dubois was 60.

2466
1:58:47 --> 1:58:48
It doesn't say CVST.

2467
1:58:48 --> 1:58:50
It only says intracranial hemorrhage

2468
1:58:50 --> 1:58:52
in the setting of thrombocytopenia,

2469
1:58:52 --> 1:58:55
but it was probably a CVST or close to it.

2470
1:58:55 --> 1:58:57
12 year old Amaya,

2471
1:58:57 --> 1:59:00
Sarah Beller, tonsil and bilateral uncle herniation.

2472
1:59:00 --> 1:59:03
You're talking all kind of the same things going on.

2473
1:59:03 --> 1:59:04
And then of course, Breonna McCarthy

2474
1:59:04 --> 1:59:06
with the ischemic stroke,

2475
1:59:06 --> 1:59:09
which was headache right after Moderna,

2476
1:59:09 --> 1:59:10
went to the emergency room,

2477
1:59:10 --> 1:59:12
emergency department twice.

2478
1:59:12 --> 1:59:14
They sent her home.

2479
1:59:14 --> 1:59:16
We're treating COVID patients here, go home.

2480
1:59:16 --> 1:59:18
Didn't recognize her sister, full-blown stroke.

2481
1:59:18 --> 1:59:21
They tried to craniotomy when the family brought her in

2482
1:59:21 --> 1:59:23
because she didn't recognize her sister.

2483
1:59:23 --> 1:59:25
She died.

2484
1:59:25 --> 1:59:27
It said that she died from COVID.

2485
1:59:27 --> 1:59:28
COVID caused the stroke.

2486
1:59:28 --> 1:59:32
But through my book and the father complaining to the state

2487
1:59:32 --> 1:59:33
after three years,

2488
1:59:33 --> 1:59:35
they finally added the vaccine as cause of death.

2489
1:59:35 --> 1:59:37
Now over to Charles.

2490
1:59:37 --> 1:59:42
Charles, your charter rights,

2491
1:59:43 --> 1:59:46
section seven, section 15 were violated

2492
1:59:46 --> 1:59:49
and you have remedy through, I believe section 24.

2493
1:59:49 --> 1:59:54
And the CPSO or whichever region you're in,

2494
1:59:54 --> 1:59:55
the college that you're in,

2495
1:59:57 --> 1:59:59
they're acting as a state act.

2496
1:59:59 --> 2:00:01
The way Canada is set up,

2497
2:00:01 --> 2:00:02
they're not the government,

2498
2:00:02 --> 2:00:07
but they are empowered through an act from the government.

2499
2:00:07 --> 2:00:08
So they're a state actor.

2500
2:00:08 --> 2:00:11
Have you considered suing them,

2501
2:00:11 --> 2:00:14
if only for declaratory relief,

2502
2:00:14 --> 2:00:17
but because they did not act in good faith,

2503
2:00:17 --> 2:00:21
you can get them personally for pecuniary, for money,

2504
2:00:21 --> 2:00:24
a financial tort lawsuit.

2505
2:00:24 --> 2:00:27
In addition to that, there's malicious prosecution.

2506
2:00:27 --> 2:00:29
Have you considered going on offense?

2507
2:00:31 --> 2:00:33
No, I haven't.

2508
2:00:34 --> 2:00:38
You know, I'm not a fighter.

2509
2:00:38 --> 2:00:43
I'm a very, sort of a gentle, quiet person that,

2510
2:00:45 --> 2:00:48
you know, I just did, I followed my conscience

2511
2:00:48 --> 2:00:53
and I sort of fought for patient safety and medical ethics.

2512
2:00:53 --> 2:00:58
But I, yeah, I don't know, you know,

2513
2:00:59 --> 2:01:04
and I've never, I've never wanted to try and,

2514
2:01:05 --> 2:01:08
although, I mean, I truly believe in justice

2515
2:01:08 --> 2:01:11
and accountability, that people who do wrong things

2516
2:01:11 --> 2:01:13
should be held accountable.

2517
2:01:13 --> 2:01:18
But, but-

2518
2:01:19 --> 2:01:19
I understand.

2519
2:01:19 --> 2:01:20
You don't have to.

2520
2:01:20 --> 2:01:25
And unfortunately, it seems like the charter in Canada,

2521
2:01:25 --> 2:01:27
the courts don't seem to support it.

2522
2:01:27 --> 2:01:30
They say, no, no, there's been an emergency, you know,

2523
2:01:30 --> 2:01:31
so it's sort of set aside

2524
2:01:31 --> 2:01:34
because we've had this terrible pandemic, you know?

2525
2:01:34 --> 2:01:38
And so unfortunately, the biggest problem seems to be

2526
2:01:38 --> 2:01:41
that the justice system is no longer just.

2527
2:01:41 --> 2:01:45
It seems to have also been captured to some degree.

2528
2:01:45 --> 2:01:48
Yeah, I think that the hardest part would be finding a lawyer

2529
2:01:48 --> 2:01:49
who would go against the system

2530
2:01:49 --> 2:01:51
because they'd try to take his license

2531
2:01:51 --> 2:01:52
for even going against the system.

2532
2:01:52 --> 2:01:54
That's what's happening in Massachusetts.

2533
2:01:54 --> 2:01:58
I think we'll talk about, I think Tuesday, maybe, Stephen.

2534
2:01:58 --> 2:01:59
I'll talk about that here.

2535
2:02:00 --> 2:02:04
But yeah, the problem is unless we punch them in the mouth,

2536
2:02:04 --> 2:02:07
they're gonna keep being bullies.

2537
2:02:07 --> 2:02:09
And nobody's punching them in the mouth.

2538
2:02:09 --> 2:02:10
So-

2539
2:02:10 --> 2:02:13
And I've got, you know, Michael Alexander might be good,

2540
2:02:13 --> 2:02:16
Charles, you know, John.

2541
2:02:16 --> 2:02:19
And it could be that it could, you know,

2542
2:02:19 --> 2:02:20
he's a lawyer in Canada.

2543
2:02:20 --> 2:02:23
I'm sure you've heard of Michael Alexander, Charles.

2544
2:02:23 --> 2:02:24
Yes, yes, I have.

2545
2:02:24 --> 2:02:26
And in fact, so he was the lawyer

2546
2:02:26 --> 2:02:29
that started off defending me.

2547
2:02:29 --> 2:02:33
And so he was the one that I,

2548
2:02:33 --> 2:02:34
so he's a constitutional lawyer.

2549
2:02:34 --> 2:02:36
So he probably would be good for that

2550
2:02:36 --> 2:02:38
because that's his field of expertise.

2551
2:02:38 --> 2:02:42
But that, so I started off with him and then realized

2552
2:02:42 --> 2:02:44
that I needed somebody who was more in tune

2553
2:02:44 --> 2:02:46
with how these colleges work

2554
2:02:46 --> 2:02:50
and more in tune with medical legal things

2555
2:02:50 --> 2:02:53
rather than just constitutional issues.

2556
2:02:53 --> 2:02:58
Yeah, the problem is when you get into the behaviors

2557
2:02:58 --> 2:03:00
of people and try to traverse the line,

2558
2:03:00 --> 2:03:02
figure out how do we stop this,

2559
2:03:02 --> 2:03:04
unless you make it personal to the individuals,

2560
2:03:04 --> 2:03:06
they're gonna hide behind the state.

2561
2:03:06 --> 2:03:08
Okay, the state did this to me

2562
2:03:08 --> 2:03:10
or the province did this to me.

2563
2:03:11 --> 2:03:13
You have to name somebody and go after them personally

2564
2:03:13 --> 2:03:16
to make sure that they're not gonna do it again.

2565
2:03:16 --> 2:03:20
Otherwise, maybe their cash, their fortune,

2566
2:03:20 --> 2:03:22
their family might be affected.

2567
2:03:23 --> 2:03:25
Until then, they all government people

2568
2:03:25 --> 2:03:26
just hide behind the government and say,

2569
2:03:26 --> 2:03:28
oh, I have immunity.

2570
2:03:28 --> 2:03:30
And they would say that they have immunity.

2571
2:03:30 --> 2:03:31
They would use that card.

2572
2:03:31 --> 2:03:33
But like I said, they have to show

2573
2:03:33 --> 2:03:35
that you would have to know

2574
2:03:35 --> 2:03:36
that they were acting in good faith,

2575
2:03:36 --> 2:03:39
which I believe you probably have a decent amount

2576
2:03:39 --> 2:03:40
of evidence to that.

2577
2:03:40 --> 2:03:44
So anyway, just gotta check in.

2578
2:03:44 --> 2:03:45
Excellent points, John.

2579
2:03:45 --> 2:03:46
Agreed, we've gotta keep moving.

2580
2:03:46 --> 2:03:48
And Charles, there you are.

2581
2:03:48 --> 2:03:49
Fire a little bit.

2582
2:03:49 --> 2:03:52
Charles, we can put you in contact with John.

2583
2:03:54 --> 2:03:55
If you're interested.

2584
2:03:55 --> 2:03:57
So just email me and I can put you in contact with John.

2585
2:03:57 --> 2:03:58
No problem.

2586
2:03:58 --> 2:04:01
Oh, he's presenting to us next,

2587
2:04:01 --> 2:04:02
is this Sunday or Tuesday?

2588
2:04:02 --> 2:04:03
John, I can't remember now.

2589
2:04:03 --> 2:04:05
I think you said this Tuesday, no?

2590
2:04:07 --> 2:04:08
Oh, this Tuesday, yes, that's right.

2591
2:04:08 --> 2:04:10
So in two days time, yes.

2592
2:04:10 --> 2:04:14
So John is extraordinary.

2593
2:04:14 --> 2:04:16
So he was in Massachusetts.

2594
2:04:16 --> 2:04:18
Guess what?

2595
2:04:18 --> 2:04:19
Charles, he isn't a doctor

2596
2:04:19 --> 2:04:22
and he got all the death certificates in Massachusetts.

2597
2:04:23 --> 2:04:25
And then having done that in Massachusetts

2598
2:04:25 --> 2:04:27
and realized how important that was

2599
2:04:27 --> 2:04:31
because he got the official causes of death, you know?

2600
2:04:32 --> 2:04:37
And then he teamed up with the Bears guy, Charles.

2601
2:04:37 --> 2:04:39
We'll get all that on Tuesday.

2602
2:04:39 --> 2:04:41
So be there, Charles, it's useful.

2603
2:04:41 --> 2:04:43
So we've got Therese, then Lex, then Jim,

2604
2:04:43 --> 2:04:47
because for some reason, Zoom is stuffing up the order.

2605
2:04:47 --> 2:04:48
Therese, you're next.

2606
2:04:48 --> 2:04:50
But he's great on the law as well, Charles.

2607
2:04:50 --> 2:04:52
So I recommend you get in contact with him.

2608
2:04:53 --> 2:04:56
So I'd like to thank both the Charles's.

2609
2:04:56 --> 2:05:00
Charles in Canada, I actually used your information

2610
2:05:00 --> 2:05:03
and managed by truly the grace of God

2611
2:05:03 --> 2:05:05
to get it to some of our military,

2612
2:05:05 --> 2:05:06
some of the junior ones,

2613
2:05:06 --> 2:05:08
which is actually probably better than the senior ones.

2614
2:05:08 --> 2:05:10
And it was just amazing.

2615
2:05:10 --> 2:05:12
I had been working for Jetson Pharmaceuticals

2616
2:05:12 --> 2:05:16
during the pandemic and I was put on the spot and asked,

2617
2:05:16 --> 2:05:20
is there any problems with the COVID vaccine?

2618
2:05:20 --> 2:05:21
And this was a paramedic.

2619
2:05:21 --> 2:05:24
And I said, look, there has been a blood clot.

2620
2:05:24 --> 2:05:26
And I quoted Robert F. Kennedy's side.

2621
2:05:26 --> 2:05:30
I got sacked from Jetson Pharmaceuticals here in Sydney

2622
2:05:30 --> 2:05:31
for that.

2623
2:05:31 --> 2:05:36
I've had a long, and Charles can verify Charles from Sydney,

2624
2:05:36 --> 2:05:40
he can verify I've had significant attack on my character,

2625
2:05:40 --> 2:05:42
a possible attempt to try to stitch me up

2626
2:05:42 --> 2:05:44
in the mental health system,

2627
2:05:44 --> 2:05:48
which is still a bit ongoing.

2628
2:05:49 --> 2:05:51
And I would love to talk to John,

2629
2:05:51 --> 2:05:52
because I agree, John,

2630
2:05:52 --> 2:05:55
that we need to speak out and name these people.

2631
2:05:55 --> 2:05:59
And that's sort of if I'm brave enough

2632
2:05:59 --> 2:06:00
where I might go next,

2633
2:06:00 --> 2:06:03
but they've made sure I don't have the money to do that,

2634
2:06:04 --> 2:06:06
which is disappointing, but there we go.

2635
2:06:07 --> 2:06:09
I always look at what's the next thing.

2636
2:06:09 --> 2:06:11
So because I'm a diabetes nurse educator,

2637
2:06:11 --> 2:06:13
I'm aware we're having a bit of a pandemic

2638
2:06:13 --> 2:06:16
in type 1 diabetes.

2639
2:06:16 --> 2:06:19
And back in, oh goodness, it was maybe 2017,

2640
2:06:23 --> 2:06:26
Murdoch Press, I believe, or Murdoch Research Institute

2641
2:06:26 --> 2:06:29
published information showing two vaccines

2642
2:06:29 --> 2:06:32
that might've been the meningococcal or pneumococcal,

2643
2:06:32 --> 2:06:33
that they walk into these schools

2644
2:06:33 --> 2:06:35
and they inject people with.

2645
2:06:35 --> 2:06:37
They said that one of them was protective

2646
2:06:37 --> 2:06:40
against type 1 diabetes.

2647
2:06:40 --> 2:06:45
So I went out and did a contact with politicians

2648
2:06:45 --> 2:06:47
and said, look, come on,

2649
2:06:47 --> 2:06:49
the Amish don't even get type 1 diabetes overly.

2650
2:06:49 --> 2:06:51
So obviously they're both causative.

2651
2:06:51 --> 2:06:52
One causes it more than the other.

2652
2:06:52 --> 2:06:54
That was buried.

2653
2:06:54 --> 2:06:58
Our politician, Greg Hunt, the head of our health,

2654
2:06:58 --> 2:06:59
went to New South Wales University

2655
2:06:59 --> 2:07:03
and they funded research to try to find a vaccine.

2656
2:07:03 --> 2:07:06
Now all the information about the connection

2657
2:07:06 --> 2:07:09
between type 1 diabetes and viruses

2658
2:07:09 --> 2:07:10
has gone from the internet.

2659
2:07:10 --> 2:07:13
So basically I was told probably 2011

2660
2:07:13 --> 2:07:16
that they believe by top endocrinologists

2661
2:07:16 --> 2:07:19
that he thought that over vaccination

2662
2:07:19 --> 2:07:21
was actually causative for type 1 diabetes

2663
2:07:21 --> 2:07:23
that it weakens the immune system.

2664
2:07:23 --> 2:07:25
That's a very long story with an interviewer

2665
2:07:25 --> 2:07:27
if anyone wants to interview me about that one.

2666
2:07:27 --> 2:07:29
And Charles has, so thank you to Charles Gavassas

2667
2:07:29 --> 2:07:30
because he's amazing.

2668
2:07:31 --> 2:07:35
So basically the next thing along with,

2669
2:07:36 --> 2:07:38
basically we have a midwife here,

2670
2:07:38 --> 2:07:43
what we're seeing is type 1 diabetes coming up

2671
2:07:43 --> 2:07:45
there is actually a cure,

2672
2:07:45 --> 2:07:48
a treatment for newly diagnosed type 1 diabetics

2673
2:07:48 --> 2:07:50
that's coming out of Europe.

2674
2:07:50 --> 2:07:51
And that's even being hidden.

2675
2:07:51 --> 2:07:54
And again, I'd like to talk to people about that one.

2676
2:07:54 --> 2:07:58
So there was a reversal for newly diagnosed type 1 diabetes.

2677
2:07:58 --> 2:08:02
But again, with what Charles from Canada did

2678
2:08:02 --> 2:08:05
at the very beginning, you gave me so much hope.

2679
2:08:05 --> 2:08:06
You know, it was really difficult.

2680
2:08:06 --> 2:08:08
I've been sat from chance that I'm sitting in my room

2681
2:08:08 --> 2:08:11
all by myself, all my family think I'm completely nuts.

2682
2:08:11 --> 2:08:15
And so it was really good to see that sort of

2683
2:08:15 --> 2:08:16
information research coming out.

2684
2:08:16 --> 2:08:18
It gave me so much hope.

2685
2:08:18 --> 2:08:20
Charles, I'm so sorry to hear what happened with your wife

2686
2:08:20 --> 2:08:25
but it is a spiritual war and Charles Gavassas can verify.

2687
2:08:28 --> 2:08:30
I'm actually, now put it in the chat.

2688
2:08:30 --> 2:08:32
I'm the only person in Australia who has won

2689
2:08:32 --> 2:08:34
medical and religious human rights

2690
2:08:34 --> 2:08:35
in the human rights commission.

2691
2:08:35 --> 2:08:38
I did that because it didn't cost me too much.

2692
2:08:38 --> 2:08:41
But the only one, I won't say that I'm the only person

2693
2:08:42 --> 2:08:45
who's trying to say it costs a whole lot to do these

2694
2:08:45 --> 2:08:46
cases that doesn't.

2695
2:08:46 --> 2:08:50
And again, I had the solicitor do pro rata.

2696
2:08:50 --> 2:08:54
But the attack on my character has been huge.

2697
2:08:54 --> 2:08:55
Trying to get a job.

2698
2:08:55 --> 2:08:57
You know, I literally got told I'm not qualified enough

2699
2:08:57 --> 2:09:00
to be a diabetes educator in a small country town

2700
2:09:00 --> 2:09:02
where my mum's cousin worked.

2701
2:09:02 --> 2:09:05
And yet I was the diabetes educator

2702
2:09:05 --> 2:09:07
for the Australian College of Nursing.

2703
2:09:07 --> 2:09:10
So they're having a lot of trouble trying to pin me down

2704
2:09:10 --> 2:09:12
because not being able to do my job

2705
2:09:12 --> 2:09:13
because I was the educator.

2706
2:09:13 --> 2:09:16
All right, Therese, we've got to move.

2707
2:09:16 --> 2:09:17
Thank you, yes.

2708
2:09:17 --> 2:09:20
You have, you have, you have dispersed my character.

2709
2:09:20 --> 2:09:21
You said I'm from Sydney.

2710
2:09:21 --> 2:09:23
No, I'm from Melbourne.

2711
2:09:23 --> 2:09:24
From Melbourne, sorry.

2712
2:09:24 --> 2:09:25
From Australia.

2713
2:09:25 --> 2:09:27
Yes, how dare I?

2714
2:09:27 --> 2:09:29
Thank you, thank you, Therese.

2715
2:09:29 --> 2:09:31
And Charles Hoff, it's a great example of, you know,

2716
2:09:31 --> 2:09:34
none of us know the impact, all the impacts that we have,

2717
2:09:34 --> 2:09:35
the ripples in the pond.

2718
2:09:35 --> 2:09:38
So Therese is a lovely example of your wonderful work

2719
2:09:38 --> 2:09:40
as many people have already said on here.

2720
2:09:40 --> 2:09:41
So thank you, Therese, for sharing.

2721
2:09:41 --> 2:09:44
And that's very important information, everybody.

2722
2:09:44 --> 2:09:49
Observe data on diabetes type one, type one diabetes.

2723
2:09:49 --> 2:09:51
And Bobby Bounds might have some interesting data on that.

2724
2:09:51 --> 2:09:53
Maybe John.

2725
2:09:53 --> 2:09:55
All right, next. Charles, what's wrong with Sydney?

2726
2:09:57 --> 2:10:00
Go on, what's the first thought that comes into your head?

2727
2:10:00 --> 2:10:02
What's wrong with Sydney?

2728
2:10:02 --> 2:10:03
Full of wankers.

2729
2:10:03 --> 2:10:05
I'll do a full presentation.

2730
2:10:05 --> 2:10:06
And as they say in the classics,

2731
2:10:06 --> 2:10:08
no, I've got a rude joke about that,

2732
2:10:08 --> 2:10:10
but we won't talk about wankers.

2733
2:10:10 --> 2:10:11
No, Anders, we haven't got time.

2734
2:10:11 --> 2:10:12
We're going to Lex, then Jim.

2735
2:10:12 --> 2:10:15
Charles, do you like the Opera House in Sydney?

2736
2:10:15 --> 2:10:17
I do, love the Opera House.

2737
2:10:17 --> 2:10:17
All right.

2738
2:10:17 --> 2:10:20
So we're going to Lex, then Jim, then Stephen.

2739
2:10:20 --> 2:10:22
We're finishing in 20 minutes.

2740
2:10:22 --> 2:10:24
So Lex, where's Jim gone?

2741
2:10:26 --> 2:10:30
The evidence that was going to surface

2742
2:10:30 --> 2:10:33
in the Charles Hoff trial, Lee Turner,

2743
2:10:35 --> 2:10:37
when he took over the case,

2744
2:10:37 --> 2:10:41
he filed a FOIA request with Public Health Service Authority,

2745
2:10:41 --> 2:10:45
which is a public health body in British Columbia.

2746
2:10:45 --> 2:10:47
And the request was asking for all the information

2747
2:10:47 --> 2:10:51
on AEFI's adverse effect following an immunization.

2748
2:10:52 --> 2:10:57
And the answer came back around June, 2024.

2749
2:10:59 --> 2:11:03
And it's about 1,300 pages of data.

2750
2:11:04 --> 2:11:06
And I went through it thoroughly.

2751
2:11:08 --> 2:11:10
And I wrote substack on it.

2752
2:11:11 --> 2:11:15
And I'm going to drop the link in the chat.

2753
2:11:15 --> 2:11:18
And that's the first, that's called part one.

2754
2:11:18 --> 2:11:22
And there will be like maybe four, five more posts

2755
2:11:22 --> 2:11:24
coming out of that FOIA request.

2756
2:11:25 --> 2:11:27
And that can explain like the evidence

2757
2:11:27 --> 2:11:28
that they didn't want to see.

2758
2:11:30 --> 2:11:31
Thank you.

2759
2:11:31 --> 2:11:34
Lex, I seem to remember, but maybe I've got mixed up,

2760
2:11:34 --> 2:11:36
but, and you don't need to talk about it

2761
2:11:36 --> 2:11:38
if you don't want to, but I seem to remember

2762
2:11:38 --> 2:11:41
you had problems with your wife as well, or ex-wife, was it?

2763
2:11:41 --> 2:11:43
No, no, no, no, we're still married.

2764
2:11:45 --> 2:11:48
She, well, she's a nurse in British Columbia.

2765
2:11:48 --> 2:11:52
And in British Columbia, we had brutal COVID-19 vaccine

2766
2:11:52 --> 2:11:54
mandates on healthcare workers,

2767
2:11:54 --> 2:11:59
all until July 25th, 2024, just last summer.

2768
2:11:59 --> 2:12:02
And that was lifted.

2769
2:12:02 --> 2:12:06
And then she went back to work in September, 2024.

2770
2:12:08 --> 2:12:09
And that's the story.

2771
2:12:09 --> 2:12:11
Bonnie Henry, the medical,

2772
2:12:11 --> 2:12:15
the provincial medical health officer of British Columbia

2773
2:12:15 --> 2:12:18
imposed those mandates, like as long as she could.

2774
2:12:18 --> 2:12:21
And the reason why she lifted them, in my opinion,

2775
2:12:21 --> 2:12:26
is that PHAC in Canada is like public health agency.

2776
2:12:26 --> 2:12:30
PHAC in Canada is like public health agency, Canada.

2777
2:12:31 --> 2:12:36
In one day before she lifted the mandate,

2778
2:12:37 --> 2:12:40
she ordered, PHAC ordered all the provinces

2779
2:12:40 --> 2:12:44
to destroy their stocks of COVID-19 vaccines.

2780
2:12:44 --> 2:12:49
So with no more COVID-19 vaccines to be dispensed,

2781
2:12:49 --> 2:12:52
the COVID-19 vaccine mandate of Bonnie Henry

2782
2:12:52 --> 2:12:55
was no longer enforceable.

2783
2:12:55 --> 2:12:56
So that, in my opinion,

2784
2:12:56 --> 2:12:59
that's what caused her to lift the mandate.

2785
2:12:59 --> 2:13:01
Otherwise, it would still be there.

2786
2:13:01 --> 2:13:03
So now my wife is back to work.

2787
2:13:05 --> 2:13:06
Oh, I've got big stuff then.

2788
2:13:06 --> 2:13:08
So the person I was thinking of, Lex,

2789
2:13:08 --> 2:13:13
was someone whose wife wanted the child to have a vaccine

2790
2:13:13 --> 2:13:15
and he desperately didn't.

2791
2:13:15 --> 2:13:17
And yeah, that wasn't-

2792
2:13:17 --> 2:13:19
No, we're lucky we dodged that.

2793
2:13:19 --> 2:13:21
All right, so it's a-

2794
2:13:21 --> 2:13:22
Sorry, I have problems.

2795
2:13:22 --> 2:13:25
And what brought me onto your call, Stephen Frost,

2796
2:13:25 --> 2:13:27
is like back in 2021,

2797
2:13:28 --> 2:13:33
my wife was going to have like the vaccine in April, 2021.

2798
2:13:33 --> 2:13:34
And the day she had the appointment,

2799
2:13:34 --> 2:13:37
she had a headache, so she didn't go, right?

2800
2:13:37 --> 2:13:39
And then during the summer of 2021,

2801
2:13:39 --> 2:13:42
I started like picking up like, you know,

2802
2:13:42 --> 2:13:44
signals that there was something wrong with this.

2803
2:13:44 --> 2:13:48
And then I got my hands on a data set

2804
2:13:48 --> 2:13:51
of obituaries in Canada, right?

2805
2:13:51 --> 2:13:53
And then I crunched some numbers.

2806
2:13:53 --> 2:13:57
And then I sent my spreadsheet to John Oloni,

2807
2:13:57 --> 2:13:59
who was a member of this group.

2808
2:13:59 --> 2:14:01
And then he gave you that spreadsheet,

2809
2:14:01 --> 2:14:04
he gave my spreadsheet to you.

2810
2:14:04 --> 2:14:05
And that was on the Saturday evening

2811
2:14:05 --> 2:14:08
of the last Saturday of October, 2021.

2812
2:14:08 --> 2:14:11
And then the next Sunday morning,

2813
2:14:11 --> 2:14:13
I had my first invitation to attend your call

2814
2:14:13 --> 2:14:16
and you had said like, Lex, we've got your spreadsheet.

2815
2:14:16 --> 2:14:19
We're seeing the same kind of thing happening in Europe.

2816
2:14:19 --> 2:14:21
Please come on our call and explain to us

2817
2:14:21 --> 2:14:23
how you calculated that.

2818
2:14:23 --> 2:14:26
And that's how I connected with all the, you know,

2819
2:14:26 --> 2:14:28
with many dissident groups across the world.

2820
2:14:28 --> 2:14:32
And in Canada, actually, you know, this was my first group.

2821
2:14:32 --> 2:14:34
And then it's from this group

2822
2:14:34 --> 2:14:36
that then I connected with the dissidents in Canada.

2823
2:14:39 --> 2:14:41
That was quite a, that's my short story

2824
2:14:41 --> 2:14:45
on how I came to be on this group once in a while.

2825
2:14:45 --> 2:14:48
But I've done lots of digging on the Charles Ove case.

2826
2:14:48 --> 2:14:51
And I'm gonna drop my sub stack post

2827
2:14:51 --> 2:14:53
and you guys can read it.

2828
2:14:53 --> 2:14:56
And there's gonna be more coming from that FOIA request.

2829
2:14:57 --> 2:15:01
That information that Lex mentioned about on his sub stack

2830
2:15:01 --> 2:15:05
that he had uncovered was that the public health authorities

2831
2:15:05 --> 2:15:09
knew that the batch that my patients received

2832
2:15:09 --> 2:15:14
here in Lytton was the second most dangerous batch in BC.

2833
2:15:15 --> 2:15:18
And they were still saying that I was a liar

2834
2:15:18 --> 2:15:20
and that these were all coincidences.

2835
2:15:20 --> 2:15:22
And they were still doing everything they could

2836
2:15:22 --> 2:15:27
to discredit me, even though we now know from their emails

2837
2:15:27 --> 2:15:29
that they were fully aware that there were far more problems

2838
2:15:29 --> 2:15:32
coming from that from them, from the other batches.

2839
2:15:32 --> 2:15:36
So we now have the evidence of their criminality

2840
2:15:36 --> 2:15:41
that Lex has crunched all the numbers for us.

2841
2:15:41 --> 2:15:44
So that if, you know, we certainly could prosecute them

2842
2:15:44 --> 2:15:49
for their lies to the public and for their willful negligence

2843
2:15:49 --> 2:15:52
of knowing that this was causing harm

2844
2:15:52 --> 2:15:56
and yet literally lying to the public and lying about me

2845
2:15:56 --> 2:16:01
and covering it up and just carrying on despite the fact

2846
2:16:01 --> 2:16:03
that we know that they were aware

2847
2:16:03 --> 2:16:04
of how much harm it was doing.

2848
2:16:04 --> 2:16:06
So Lex, thank you for your work.

2849
2:16:06 --> 2:16:07
It's really important.

2850
2:16:07 --> 2:16:11
Maybe some heads will roll if we can use that.

2851
2:16:11 --> 2:16:12
Hopefully.

2852
2:16:12 --> 2:16:16
And one thing that's notable from the FOIAs,

2853
2:16:16 --> 2:16:20
on March 15th, 2021, Bonnie Henry in the afternoon,

2854
2:16:20 --> 2:16:25
she gave a press conference about the COVID-19 rollout

2855
2:16:25 --> 2:16:28
in the AEFIs, the adverse effect.

2856
2:16:28 --> 2:16:30
And she was saying like, we're seeing some adverse effects,

2857
2:16:30 --> 2:16:34
but everything is well managed and it's all good on Kidori.

2858
2:16:34 --> 2:16:38
But I have an email from her, like,

2859
2:16:38 --> 2:16:42
an other between her and the BCCDC that on March 15th,

2860
2:16:42 --> 2:16:46
the same day in the morning, she had received like an EFI,

2861
2:16:46 --> 2:16:48
an internal EFI report that was showing

2862
2:16:48 --> 2:16:51
like a very different picture than what she was saying

2863
2:16:51 --> 2:16:54
in the afternoon of that very same day.

2864
2:16:54 --> 2:16:58
And March 15th, 2021 is special because that's the day

2865
2:16:58 --> 2:17:02
that the vaccine rollout around the world

2866
2:17:02 --> 2:17:06
like pivoted away from AstraZeneca.

2867
2:17:06 --> 2:17:09
That's the date, like March 15th.

2868
2:17:10 --> 2:17:13
So that's coming in future posts.

2869
2:17:13 --> 2:17:14
Of which year was that?

2870
2:17:14 --> 2:17:16
2021, was that, Lex?

2871
2:17:17 --> 2:17:18
Say that again?

2872
2:17:18 --> 2:17:21
Was that 2021?

2873
2:17:21 --> 2:17:26
Yeah, March 15th, 2021, that's a very special day

2874
2:17:26 --> 2:17:29
when like the public health across the world,

2875
2:17:29 --> 2:17:30
like, you know, they started saying like,

2876
2:17:30 --> 2:17:32
well, AstraZeneca, we should like, you know,

2877
2:17:32 --> 2:17:34
restrict its use and all that.

2878
2:17:34 --> 2:17:36
That was like the day that they, you know,

2879
2:17:36 --> 2:17:37
they turn away from it.

2880
2:17:37 --> 2:17:41
And then they concentrated on like Pfizer and Moderna.

2881
2:17:41 --> 2:17:43
Now there's another observation that comes out of that,

2882
2:17:43 --> 2:17:46
of that four release is that the,

2883
2:17:48 --> 2:17:52
versus EFI rate, the serious EFI rates

2884
2:17:52 --> 2:17:53
between Moderna and Pfizer,

2885
2:17:53 --> 2:17:58
like Moderna is about like two to three times higher, right?

2886
2:17:58 --> 2:18:02
And that kind of like, it connects with,

2887
2:18:02 --> 2:18:06
it relates to like the amount of like modified RNA,

2888
2:18:06 --> 2:18:08
that HF, like, you know, Pfizer,

2889
2:18:08 --> 2:18:11
Pfizer has like 30 microgram and Moderna

2890
2:18:11 --> 2:18:13
has like a hundred microgram,

2891
2:18:13 --> 2:18:16
like about like a little bit like three times more.

2892
2:18:16 --> 2:18:19
And you know, the rates of EFI is about like, you know,

2893
2:18:19 --> 2:18:23
can be seen like about like two to three times more.

2894
2:18:23 --> 2:18:27
So this is what, this is making me think that Pfizer

2895
2:18:27 --> 2:18:31
could be seen as a control for Moderna.

2896
2:18:31 --> 2:18:35
And what we're measuring here is the harmfulness of mRNA,

2897
2:18:35 --> 2:18:39
of the mRNA, because these vaccines are quite comparable.

2898
2:18:39 --> 2:18:41
They were deemed to be interchangeable.

2899
2:18:41 --> 2:18:43
So when you got one, a shot of one, they said like, well,

2900
2:18:43 --> 2:18:45
you know, if you had an adverse effect with one,

2901
2:18:45 --> 2:18:47
take the other brand.

2902
2:18:47 --> 2:18:49
That's absolutely crazy.

2903
2:18:49 --> 2:18:52
That, you know, I was stunned when that happened,

2904
2:18:52 --> 2:18:54
when they said mix and match, yeah.

2905
2:18:54 --> 2:18:55
Yeah, mix and match.

2906
2:18:55 --> 2:18:59
Well, I mean, this mix and match thing, like,

2907
2:18:59 --> 2:19:01
in my mind, it's part of like, well, you know,

2908
2:19:01 --> 2:19:05
Pfizer is a control for Moderna.

2909
2:19:05 --> 2:19:08
And what we're measuring here is the harmfulness of the mRNA.

2910
2:19:08 --> 2:19:09
And that's it.

2911
2:19:10 --> 2:19:13
That's my opinion on the numbers that I saw.

2912
2:19:13 --> 2:19:16
I'm gonna give the floor to someone else.

2913
2:19:16 --> 2:19:17
Thank you, Lex.

2914
2:19:17 --> 2:19:18
We gotta keep moving.

2915
2:19:18 --> 2:19:21
Good work, great researcher.

2916
2:19:21 --> 2:19:22
Jim.

2917
2:19:22 --> 2:19:23
Jim, you muted.

2918
2:19:25 --> 2:19:26
Jim, you muted.

2919
2:19:27 --> 2:19:30
God, go through this every week.

2920
2:19:32 --> 2:19:35
Yeah, he's muted.

2921
2:19:35 --> 2:19:37
All right, Anders, be quick, because we're tied for time.

2922
2:19:37 --> 2:19:39
I'm unmuted here, and I can't.

2923
2:19:39 --> 2:19:40
Okay, well, Jim, now.

2924
2:19:40 --> 2:19:41
Thank you.

2925
2:19:41 --> 2:19:44
Jim, we lost 20 seconds, and waiting for you.

2926
2:19:44 --> 2:19:45
Sorry about that.

2927
2:19:45 --> 2:19:47
The issue of the vaccine,

2928
2:19:47 --> 2:19:49
the vaccine is not a vaccine,

2929
2:19:49 --> 2:19:50
sorry about that.

2930
2:19:50 --> 2:19:55
The issue of who did this COVID and how we stop it,

2931
2:19:58 --> 2:20:03
and who actually did the blowing up of the towers

2932
2:20:06 --> 2:20:10
that reduced the population, the Georgia Guidestones.

2933
2:20:11 --> 2:20:13
The intelligence community can figure out everything,

2934
2:20:13 --> 2:20:16
but they can't figure out who blew up the Georgia Guidestones.

2935
2:20:16 --> 2:20:19
They can't figure out who leaked Roe versus Wade

2936
2:20:19 --> 2:20:24
to say that abortion was the issue in the United States.

2937
2:20:29 --> 2:20:31
Now you're breaking up, Jim.

2938
2:20:31 --> 2:20:33
You need to switch off your video.

2939
2:20:33 --> 2:20:35
Okay.

2940
2:20:35 --> 2:20:36
It looks like,

2941
2:20:38 --> 2:20:38
it looks.

2942
2:20:38 --> 2:20:40
Is this better?

2943
2:20:40 --> 2:20:41
Is this better?

2944
2:20:41 --> 2:20:46
It looks like they found out who killed JFK,

2945
2:20:46 --> 2:20:48
and the person who killed JFK, it looks like,

2946
2:20:50 --> 2:20:53
has to do with the intelligence agencies,

2947
2:20:53 --> 2:20:57
including the Israeli Mossad has something to do with it.

2948
2:20:57 --> 2:20:58
So the question is,

2949
2:20:59 --> 2:21:02
did the Israeli Mossad have something to do with COVID?

2950
2:21:02 --> 2:21:03
And if so, what?

2951
2:21:03 --> 2:21:04
What are your thoughts?

2952
2:21:04 --> 2:21:08
And can we ask the intelligence agencies,

2953
2:21:08 --> 2:21:12
the antidotes for these things in light of them,

2954
2:21:13 --> 2:21:15
or ask for declassification of this

2955
2:21:15 --> 2:21:17
in light of the fact that they declassified

2956
2:21:17 --> 2:21:19
the JFK filings?

2957
2:21:19 --> 2:21:20
Thank you.

2958
2:21:22 --> 2:21:26
Well, do you have any intelligence links, Charles?

2959
2:21:26 --> 2:21:27
Charles Hoffman.

2960
2:21:27 --> 2:21:28
Oh, no, no.

2961
2:21:28 --> 2:21:30
I don't have any intelligence links.

2962
2:21:30 --> 2:21:31
No, no.

2963
2:21:32 --> 2:21:34
But Jim does, so he's asking you.

2964
2:21:34 --> 2:21:36
So anyway.

2965
2:21:36 --> 2:21:37
Anyway.

2966
2:21:37 --> 2:21:40
So Jim, great questions to ask,

2967
2:21:40 --> 2:21:43
and Charles, you don't have an answer?

2968
2:21:43 --> 2:21:44
No.

2969
2:21:44 --> 2:21:45
Okay.

2970
2:21:46 --> 2:21:47
All right.

2971
2:21:47 --> 2:21:50
Anders, be quick, and then we're finishing with Stephen.

2972
2:21:53 --> 2:21:56
Very good to hear from you all.

2973
2:21:58 --> 2:22:03
I would like to connect to you all.

2974
2:22:05 --> 2:22:08
I was asked to join this group

2975
2:22:08 --> 2:22:13
about early, late May, early June, 2023.

2976
2:22:19 --> 2:22:23
You may remember that, Stephen.

2977
2:22:23 --> 2:22:24
Yeah.

2978
2:22:24 --> 2:22:29
I was asked by my good friend, Robert Young,

2979
2:22:29 --> 2:22:32
to connect to you.

2980
2:22:32 --> 2:22:33
All right.

2981
2:22:34 --> 2:22:36
And I'm sure you remember that.

2982
2:22:38 --> 2:22:39
Well, yes.

2983
2:22:39 --> 2:22:40
Yes.

2984
2:22:40 --> 2:22:44
So I know why as well, because you were touted

2985
2:22:44 --> 2:22:48
as an expert through your research on 5G.

2986
2:22:49 --> 2:22:52
You were drawing attention to the fact that,

2987
2:22:52 --> 2:22:55
in your opinion, there was a difference between rural

2988
2:22:55 --> 2:23:00
and urban attacks from 5G, essentially.

2989
2:23:01 --> 2:23:04
And this is real.

2990
2:23:04 --> 2:23:09
And I appreciate your talking about that, Stephen.

2991
2:23:10 --> 2:23:15
It's very real, because this was my original connection

2992
2:23:19 --> 2:23:21
to your group, you know?

2993
2:23:21 --> 2:23:26
And my connection is that I'm connected to Robert Young.

2994
2:23:29 --> 2:23:33
He's a real guy, and I don't need to go,

2995
2:23:33 --> 2:23:36
and I don't want to go all on that, but let's say,

2996
2:23:37 --> 2:23:38
this is history.

2997
2:23:38 --> 2:23:43
History is three years, yes.

2998
2:23:45 --> 2:23:48
But this is not what I want to talk about.

2999
2:23:48 --> 2:23:51
I want to talk about that me and Robert,

3000
2:23:51 --> 2:23:56
we have had very good interactions,

3001
2:23:58 --> 2:24:03
and his immense knowledge,

3002
2:24:04 --> 2:24:09
immense knowledge into biology

3003
2:24:10 --> 2:24:15
has been much more than just a little bit.

3004
2:24:15 --> 2:24:20
Biology has been my inspiration,

3005
2:24:23 --> 2:24:28
and me and him, you know, the last thing he did

3006
2:24:31 --> 2:24:35
before he called the court, he would be taken into court.

3007
2:24:38 --> 2:24:43
I had some issues with him, but he said,

3008
2:24:43 --> 2:24:45
Anders, you're friends.

3009
2:24:45 --> 2:24:50
And I said, Robert, maybe not.

3010
2:24:50 --> 2:24:53
Excuse me, point of information,

3011
2:24:53 --> 2:24:56
someone's having a cardiac incident in the chat.

3012
2:24:58 --> 2:25:01
Yes, Jenny says she's worried.

3013
2:25:01 --> 2:25:05
So what I want to tell you is that

3014
2:25:05 --> 2:25:09
there's a lot of information,

3015
2:25:09 --> 2:25:14
and this information is going to come out, you know,

3016
2:25:17 --> 2:25:20
and Robert is...

3017
2:25:24 --> 2:25:25
Anders, hurry up, please.

3018
2:25:25 --> 2:25:26
Yes.

3019
2:25:26 --> 2:25:29
It's tight, I don't want to speech.

3020
2:25:29 --> 2:25:34
Yes, so the story is, me and Robert, we are tight.

3021
2:25:35 --> 2:25:39
Your group is, I'm not sure,

3022
2:25:39 --> 2:25:44
but let's say it is similar to our good friend in Germany.

3023
2:25:47 --> 2:25:52
And this is a bit challenging for me, Stephen.

3024
2:25:53 --> 2:25:55
We don't want a discussion now.

3025
2:25:55 --> 2:25:56
Look, I'm not interested.

3026
2:25:56 --> 2:25:57
We don't want a discussion now

3027
2:25:57 --> 2:26:01
about the pluses and minuses of this group, Anders.

3028
2:26:01 --> 2:26:05
So we want to be respectful to our guest.

3029
2:26:05 --> 2:26:06
Do you have a question for him or not?

3030
2:26:11 --> 2:26:11
Right.

3031
2:26:12 --> 2:26:14
Answer no, Charles, sir.

3032
2:26:14 --> 2:26:16
No, I muted him.

3033
2:26:17 --> 2:26:18
Right.

3034
2:26:18 --> 2:26:19
Okay, Stephen, over to you,

3035
2:26:19 --> 2:26:21
because Anders is going to make a speech

3036
2:26:21 --> 2:26:23
which is not relevant to Charles Hoff.

3037
2:26:23 --> 2:26:25
Stephen, over to you to file your questions,

3038
2:26:25 --> 2:26:28
then we'll let Charles go and we'll end the meeting.

3039
2:26:28 --> 2:26:31
So Charles, I think you and I need to,

3040
2:26:31 --> 2:26:32
so as I understand it,

3041
2:26:32 --> 2:26:35
you don't believe that there was a pandemic.

3042
2:26:35 --> 2:26:38
By a different route, I've come to the same conclusion.

3043
2:26:38 --> 2:26:40
I absolutely agree there was no pandemic.

3044
2:26:40 --> 2:26:42
In fact, I don't think, Charles,

3045
2:26:42 --> 2:26:46
and I think you would agree, there was no COVID-19.

3046
2:26:46 --> 2:26:50
The diagnosis was made up.

3047
2:26:50 --> 2:26:52
And of course we know that the test,

3048
2:26:52 --> 2:26:54
you know, the PCR test which they used

3049
2:26:55 --> 2:26:56
and the lateral flow test,

3050
2:26:57 --> 2:26:59
this was all fraudulent.

3051
2:26:59 --> 2:27:02
You don't diagnose a so-called viral illness,

3052
2:27:02 --> 2:27:04
you know, whether you believe in viruses or not,

3053
2:27:04 --> 2:27:05
with a test.

3054
2:27:05 --> 2:27:07
We've never done that previously.

3055
2:27:07 --> 2:27:10
And all of a sudden in 2020, oh yeah, we had to have a test.

3056
2:27:10 --> 2:27:13
But even when it was diagnosed clinically,

3057
2:27:13 --> 2:27:15
there was no symptom.

3058
2:27:15 --> 2:27:17
I noticed that no doctor was saying,

3059
2:27:17 --> 2:27:18
well, actually there's no symptom

3060
2:27:18 --> 2:27:21
which is pathognomonic for COVID-19.

3061
2:27:21 --> 2:27:24
So I just wonder whether you can comment

3062
2:27:24 --> 2:27:25
on those two things.

3063
2:27:25 --> 2:27:27
In my opinion, there was no pandemic.

3064
2:27:27 --> 2:27:29
A deadly virus kills its host, you know,

3065
2:27:29 --> 2:27:31
if you believe in viruses, that is.

3066
2:27:31 --> 2:27:34
So in other words, if deadly virus kills its host,

3067
2:27:34 --> 2:27:37
so if it's very virulent, i.e. dangerous,

3068
2:27:37 --> 2:27:38
then it's not gonna spread.

3069
2:27:40 --> 2:27:43
You know, Stephen, the story is that...

3070
2:27:46 --> 2:27:49
Andrish, you just had your time.

3071
2:27:49 --> 2:27:51
You didn't use it, Andrish.

3072
2:27:51 --> 2:27:54
And now we've moved on, we're onto different things.

3073
2:27:54 --> 2:27:56
So will you please stop interrupting?

3074
2:27:57 --> 2:27:59
Okay, Stephen, in response to your question,

3075
2:27:59 --> 2:28:02
yeah, I think there were...

3076
2:28:03 --> 2:28:06
In the places where that quoted...

3077
2:28:06 --> 2:28:08
In the places that had looked like

3078
2:28:08 --> 2:28:10
there was an increase in mortality,

3079
2:28:10 --> 2:28:14
which was in what, Bergamo, Italy, in New York,

3080
2:28:15 --> 2:28:18
and one other place, I can't remember where it was,

3081
2:28:18 --> 2:28:21
when they actually looked at true cause of death,

3082
2:28:21 --> 2:28:26
they found that approximately 95% of everyone

3083
2:28:26 --> 2:28:28
who was recorded as having died of COVID

3084
2:28:28 --> 2:28:30
did not die of COVID.

3085
2:28:30 --> 2:28:32
They might've died with a positive PCR,

3086
2:28:32 --> 2:28:34
but they did not die of COVID.

3087
2:28:34 --> 2:28:37
So I don't think there was a pandemic,

3088
2:28:37 --> 2:28:41
except that the WHO changed the definition of a pandemic,

3089
2:28:41 --> 2:28:42
so it doesn't have to be,

3090
2:28:42 --> 2:28:43
because, you know, the definition, I think,

3091
2:28:43 --> 2:28:47
up until 2010 was that a pandemic was a new virus

3092
2:28:48 --> 2:28:51
that had a high rate of mortality

3093
2:28:51 --> 2:28:53
that went across the world.

3094
2:28:53 --> 2:28:58
So firstly, I don't think this was a new virus

3095
2:28:58 --> 2:29:00
because a lot of people had natural immunity.

3096
2:29:00 --> 2:29:04
Secondly, and it was cross-immunity

3097
2:29:04 --> 2:29:05
from the other coronaviruses.

3098
2:29:05 --> 2:29:08
Secondly, there wasn't a high rate of mortality.

3099
2:29:08 --> 2:29:12
Until the vaccine rollout happened,

3100
2:29:12 --> 2:29:13
in most countries in the world,

3101
2:29:13 --> 2:29:15
there was no increase in mortality,

3102
2:29:15 --> 2:29:17
and in the countries where there was an increase,

3103
2:29:17 --> 2:29:20
it was literally from withholding healthcare,

3104
2:29:20 --> 2:29:23
and in the UK, of course, they gave them a Dazzle Amp

3105
2:29:23 --> 2:29:25
to anybody that was elderly and got sick

3106
2:29:25 --> 2:29:28
and made sure they died, and those were all COVID deaths.

3107
2:29:28 --> 2:29:31
So I think the places that looked like

3108
2:29:31 --> 2:29:35
they had a higher mortality, it was fabricated,

3109
2:29:35 --> 2:29:39
and mostly by misassigning deaths

3110
2:29:39 --> 2:29:41
and by withholding healthcare.

3111
2:29:42 --> 2:29:46
But in terms of whether or not COVID did exist,

3112
2:29:46 --> 2:29:49
there definitely was some illness

3113
2:29:50 --> 2:29:54
that, I agree, there was no characteristic symptom,

3114
2:29:54 --> 2:29:57
there was no definitive test, that is true.

3115
2:29:57 --> 2:30:01
There was literally nothing that was pathognomonic

3116
2:30:01 --> 2:30:05
of COVID-19, but it was a different kind of flu.

3117
2:30:05 --> 2:30:07
It really was, and in...

3118
2:30:07 --> 2:30:11
Or Charles, was it modified, or is it possible that the,

3119
2:30:11 --> 2:30:14
that people were saying it was new,

3120
2:30:14 --> 2:30:16
but it was only new because of the extra,

3121
2:30:16 --> 2:30:18
the fear which had been injected in,

3122
2:30:18 --> 2:30:22
which made whatever was going around a little more dangerous

3123
2:30:22 --> 2:30:27
or whatever, unusual, but also the power of suggestion.

3124
2:30:27 --> 2:30:29
If you say to people, there's a new virus,

3125
2:30:29 --> 2:30:31
they're kind of looking around for stuff that,

3126
2:30:32 --> 2:30:35
in their view, is new, but they're not very good

3127
2:30:35 --> 2:30:37
on causation, human beings.

3128
2:30:37 --> 2:30:39
That's one thing that's emerged from the last five years.

3129
2:30:41 --> 2:30:43
Yeah, the power of suggestion,

3130
2:30:43 --> 2:30:45
I mean, that's the placebo effect.

3131
2:30:45 --> 2:30:49
It's powerful, it really, really is powerful.

3132
2:30:49 --> 2:30:52
When you tell people to expect something,

3133
2:30:52 --> 2:30:54
when they see something that could be that,

3134
2:30:54 --> 2:30:57
that's what they interpreted as that.

3135
2:30:57 --> 2:31:02
And so, yeah, I still don't know about this virus thing.

3136
2:31:05 --> 2:31:10
I mean, I still am of the opinion that viruses do exist

3137
2:31:10 --> 2:31:14
because they seem to, there are infectious diseases

3138
2:31:15 --> 2:31:17
that we know are not from bacteria

3139
2:31:17 --> 2:31:21
that can cause a constellation of symptoms,

3140
2:31:21 --> 2:31:23
like the flu or colds or whatever else,

3141
2:31:26 --> 2:31:29
that I don't know how else we explain why they're infectious

3142
2:31:29 --> 2:31:32
and why different people with the same illness

3143
2:31:32 --> 2:31:33
get similar symptoms.

3144
2:31:33 --> 2:31:34
So...

3145
2:31:34 --> 2:31:36
So Charles, you're a doctor,

3146
2:31:36 --> 2:31:39
so are you familiar with the tension, if you like,

3147
2:31:40 --> 2:31:44
the kind of tension between high transmissibility

3148
2:31:44 --> 2:31:46
and high virulence?

3149
2:31:46 --> 2:31:49
So, even if you believe in viruses

3150
2:31:49 --> 2:31:51
or that there was a new disease called COVID-19,

3151
2:31:51 --> 2:31:54
which I personally don't, the second one anyway,

3152
2:31:54 --> 2:31:57
the first, I don't think we need to have that discussion now,

3153
2:31:57 --> 2:32:02
but there's this tension between high transmissibility

3154
2:32:03 --> 2:32:05
and high virulence, you can't have both.

3155
2:32:05 --> 2:32:07
So the pandemic can't,

3156
2:32:07 --> 2:32:11
so you've got a highly virulent virus, let's say,

3157
2:32:11 --> 2:32:15
excepting for a moment that there is such a thing as a virus,

3158
2:32:15 --> 2:32:20
then that would mean in my eyes that, you know,

3159
2:32:20 --> 2:32:23
that tension which exists, if you've got high virulence,

3160
2:32:23 --> 2:32:25
you have low transmissibility,

3161
2:32:25 --> 2:32:29
and that's what the deadly virus kills the host is all about.

3162
2:32:29 --> 2:32:31
We were taught this in medical school,

3163
2:32:31 --> 2:32:34
and maybe you were too, but of course,

3164
2:32:34 --> 2:32:36
but actually, we were actually told this

3165
2:32:36 --> 2:32:39
by an immunology professor, and I said,

3166
2:32:39 --> 2:32:42
well, does that mean that pandemics are impossible?

3167
2:32:42 --> 2:32:45
And he said, I had no idea why at the time,

3168
2:32:45 --> 2:32:47
I just was, I was pretty shy,

3169
2:32:47 --> 2:32:49
but I managed to ask that question,

3170
2:32:49 --> 2:32:51
does that mean pandemics not possible?

3171
2:32:51 --> 2:32:55
He said, deadly virus kills its host.

3172
2:32:55 --> 2:32:58
And he said, very good, Stephen.

3173
2:32:58 --> 2:33:01
And I didn't, I was too shy to ask why he said very good.

3174
2:33:01 --> 2:33:05
I didn't understand why either, but later in 2020,

3175
2:33:05 --> 2:33:06
I was thinking, oh, I came back to that,

3176
2:33:06 --> 2:33:10
and I thought, wow, did he know as an immunologist,

3177
2:33:11 --> 2:33:13
then that they were trying to take away

3178
2:33:13 --> 2:33:15
the voices of immunologists,

3179
2:33:15 --> 2:33:19
and increase the voices of virologists,

3180
2:33:19 --> 2:33:21
so the whole thing was a construct.

3181
2:33:22 --> 2:33:24
So do you see what I'm trying to say?

3182
2:33:24 --> 2:33:26
Did he know that then?

3183
2:33:26 --> 2:33:28
But of course, he couldn't explain to us

3184
2:33:28 --> 2:33:31
as to medical students, you know?

3185
2:33:34 --> 2:33:39
My concern with the idea that you can't have a pandemic

3186
2:33:39 --> 2:33:41
if a deadly virus kills its host,

3187
2:33:41 --> 2:33:45
because my concern with that is how long it would take

3188
2:33:45 --> 2:33:47
for the virus to kill its host,

3189
2:33:47 --> 2:33:51
because usually a virus is the most infectious

3190
2:33:51 --> 2:33:52
in the first seven days.

3191
2:33:52 --> 2:33:55
And if it takes 14 days to kill its host,

3192
2:33:55 --> 2:33:58
the host is still alive while they're most infectious.

3193
2:33:59 --> 2:34:02
So I don't think it will eliminate itself

3194
2:34:02 --> 2:34:04
unless the host dies very quickly.

3195
2:34:06 --> 2:34:09
All right, come on, we've got to finish.

3196
2:34:09 --> 2:34:10
That's a, we're gonna have, Stephen,

3197
2:34:10 --> 2:34:12
we're gonna have this big debate,

3198
2:34:12 --> 2:34:16
organize it, one of our meetings of this whole question.

3199
2:34:16 --> 2:34:17
So it's a great question.

3200
2:34:17 --> 2:34:19
And of course, then we're gonna be attacked.

3201
2:34:19 --> 2:34:20
The importance of this, Charles,

3202
2:34:20 --> 2:34:25
so just so people understand the importance of this,

3203
2:34:25 --> 2:34:29
is if there was no, if there was no pandemic

3204
2:34:29 --> 2:34:32
and there was no disease called COVID-19,

3205
2:34:32 --> 2:34:35
then why the hell were all these people locked up?

3206
2:34:35 --> 2:34:38
Yeah, we've got all that, we've covered that ad nauseam.

3207
2:34:38 --> 2:34:40
It's a depopulation agenda, it's clear.

3208
2:34:40 --> 2:34:42
You still don't understand what I'm trying to say.

3209
2:34:42 --> 2:34:45
It's our propaganda to get people to think,

3210
2:34:45 --> 2:34:48
well, if there was no pandemic and there was no COVID-19,

3211
2:34:48 --> 2:34:51
that's very important, because I couldn't be with my father

3212
2:34:51 --> 2:34:54
when he was dying, or I couldn't be with my father.

3213
2:34:54 --> 2:34:59
The answer, all of those, all of that was to create fear

3214
2:34:59 --> 2:35:02
and the purpose of the fear was to get everyone vaccinated.

3215
2:35:02 --> 2:35:06
And the purpose of the vaccine was population reduction.

3216
2:35:06 --> 2:35:10
And I really think that's why we were locked up.

3217
2:35:10 --> 2:35:11
That's why we wore masks.

3218
2:35:11 --> 2:35:13
That's why we're all these things was to,

3219
2:35:13 --> 2:35:16
is to, was to, it was all to build fear.

3220
2:35:16 --> 2:35:19
And the fear was to get us ready for the shots

3221
2:35:19 --> 2:35:22
and the shots were to reduce the population.

3222
2:35:22 --> 2:35:24
And now we've all got Stockholm syndrome,

3223
2:35:24 --> 2:35:28
which is why we haven't succeeded in holding one person

3224
2:35:28 --> 2:35:29
in the whole world to account

3225
2:35:29 --> 2:35:32
for the terrible crimes in 2020, 2021.

3226
2:35:33 --> 2:35:35
We've all got Stockholm syndrome, all of us.

3227
2:35:35 --> 2:35:37
No, we haven't, I haven't.

3228
2:35:37 --> 2:35:38
Oh, well. I haven't.

3229
2:35:38 --> 2:35:40
All right, off we go.

3230
2:35:40 --> 2:35:41
Thank you, Charles, we're finishing.

3231
2:35:41 --> 2:35:43
You can go to the Tom Rodman group.

3232
2:35:43 --> 2:35:45
Otherwise we'll go on for another three hours,

3233
2:35:45 --> 2:35:47
which we're not gonna do.

3234
2:35:47 --> 2:35:47
Thank you so much.

3235
2:35:47 --> 2:35:49
Well, Charles, why haven't you held anybody to account?

3236
2:35:49 --> 2:35:52
Charles, please leave this open right now, okay?

3237
2:35:53 --> 2:35:54
We've got an emergency on our hands.

3238
2:35:54 --> 2:35:55
Please leave this thing open.

3239
2:35:55 --> 2:35:57
We have an emergency on our hands.

3240
2:35:57 --> 2:35:58
All right.

3241
2:35:58 --> 2:35:59
Just leave it open. Don't close it yet.

3242
2:35:59 --> 2:36:00
Thank you.

3243
2:36:00 --> 2:36:01
I'm gonna stop the recording.

3244
2:36:01 --> 2:36:02
Thanks everybody.