Hello everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and today's
discussion this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost over three years ago, almost four years
ago with the desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.
Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower
and activist his medical special is radiology.
At this time we remember Ryan Ofulmik and we'll make an announcement about Ryan Ofulmik
but he is currently unlawfully incarcerated by the German government in a German jail
undergoing a German court show trial having been unlawfully kidnapped by the German government
in October 2023.
In Mexico.
And it's an outrageous, it's an outrageous imposition and behaviour by the German government
and everybody should be aware of it.
And we've got lots to tell you more at the a bit later today.
And it was indeed in Mexico.
I'm Charles Covets the moderator of this group.
I practice law for 20 years and for 14 years I've helped parents and lawyers to strategise
remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice.
I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company and mark my words industrial hemp is going
to be a massive positive impact on humanity in the next few years to come.
We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world.
By the way Scott Sharer who Jerome is running the case in Wisconsin against Wisconsin Health
for the murder of his daughter Grace Sharer is also in the Wisconsin legal system for
what it's worth everybody and Scottish Fighting a wonderful fight has presented to this group before.
Many of us thought in the past that vaccines were okay now many of us proudly say yes we
are passionate anti-vaxxers and indeed I am a passionate anti-vaxxer and Dr Stanley Plotkin
the so-called godfather of childhood vaccines in America has admitted in his deposition
nine-hour deposition before Aaron Ciri lawyer that no vaccine ever has been properly tested
for safety and efficacy. If this is your first time here welcome and feel free to introduce
yourself in the chat. Most of us understand we're in the middle of world war three and that the
medical science battle is only one of 12 battle fronts of this latest world war.
Another is honesty and integrity in government a third is the propaganda war and the spiritual war
is the fourth and there are another eight. There is no time to be tired we're five years into a
seven-year war so look after your health and be up for the fight. Most of us understand the development
of science and the science is never settled. This meeting runs for two and a half hours after which
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chat if you're able to join. We will listen to our guest presenter Bobbo Sundgren from Sweden.
Is it Bobbo or Bobbo? It's Bobbo. Bobbo good thank you. So we will listen to Bobbo Sundgren for as
long as Bobbo wishes to speak and then we have quick questions and answers Stephen Frost via
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to our guest presenter Bobo Sundgren and we thank you Bobo for giving us your time
and sharing your story and for the purposes of the recording I will give you a little bit of
background in your own words no in your own words you are a Swedish author ethnologist and
activist known for your book How I became one of Sweden's worst internet trolls.
Nicholas was born with a heart defect and underwent a liver transplant and he was jabbed
with the COVID jabs and Bobo is going to tell us about his journey in vindicating and fighting
back against Nicholas's case. He'll tell us about the prosecutor and today Bobo advocates for informed
consent and medical accountability as do we in this call through various platforms including
Substack and Facebook as well as through live lectures and public talks so welcome Bobo and
thank you Stephen Frost again for creating this group and for organizing Bobo to be with our to
have Bobo speak to us today and Stephen who helped us get Bobo today? Well Celia Farber and
Lars Johansson. That's right very good all right so thank you Stephen welcome Bobo good to have you
here and your story is a is a heart-wrenching one so over to you we're all yours and and look forward
to hearing from you and discussing with you. Charles I just want to say that Bobo knows amongst
other things about Olaf Palma's death assassination but also how Trump was elected in 2016 using I
can't remember but he knows all about tech he's one of these extraordinary Swedes who kind of
buck the system if you like which is you know everybody trusting that but Bobo
knows a lot and so they've got a real problem now because they've got criminal investigation
involving his 13 year old son who died in 2021 from memory sorry 2022 oh sorry 2022 all over
to you let's we look forward to listening to you thank you so much for the introduction and
thank you for having me it's an honor and I've been waiting for this longing for it
because you have so much expertise and that is exactly what I need and have been needing through
the process. Am I coming through? Yes Bobo we can hear you loud and clear. Good so
Nikolas my son he was born 2008 with heart malformations in latin they are called truncus
arteriosus and they're also called interrupted aortic arch of course I don't know so much about it
but I know that the surgeon that did a fantastic job was Peter Jögin in Lund and he did this
fantastic job three days after Nikolas was born in Halmstad in Sweden so it was a shock of course
for us me and Nikolas mother and at the same time we felt very blessed that we were in Sweden
and we were taken care of and Nikolas was taken care of by the best surgeons in the world
we felt it in the air we saw them walking past us in the corridors they are often very tall
and they looked like gods to us and they were in fact gods because they saved our son
and we were so grateful for that six months more or less six seven months later Nikolas
had his liver transplanted he started to get sick when he was
maybe three months four months old and as the malformation of the heart was unexplained
as the malformation of the heart was unexplained
the liver problem was also unexplained they did send samples to Switzerland
for a genetic research but they didn't find anything they didn't find any clue for anything
for anything so it was a big mystery
and of course we were shocked again and we practically lived at the hospital for
Nikolas first year so we were conditioned to trust the health care and to trust certain
figures there certain persons certain doctors certain nurses they followed Nikolas
all through his life from he was a baby to to his death the same persons for example the nurse
the nurse
that we went to for blood samples all through his life was actually the nurse that gave him
the second shot of Moderna's COVID vaccine sounds like I'm making it up but it's actually true
and we had a feeling that she loved him she actually visited him when he was deadly sick
and before I go into that I want to give a background from the summer of 2021
summer of 2021 I am sure that all of us don't want to think about that year
but all of us sitting here forces ourselves we forces we are forcing ourselves to think about
that year and the year before and the years after and the horror
that evil forces put upon us
the summer of 2021
my mother
told me that I had to take the COVID vaccine in order to live with her at the summer place
because we had nowhere else to go because our landlord that owned the house where we lived
me and my children she wanted to live one month a year in her house and we had to go elsewhere
that month and my mother's place her summer's place were well it was the only option so I
although I was a little bit skeptical I took the COVID vaccine and it was Pfizer's community
and this was six months after it was conditionally approved
and in my naivety I thought that mainstream media should have alerted us
if there was something really wrong with it
I was a little bit skeptical all along
I was skeptical when I saw people falling fainting in Wuhan and China falling on the street
falling on the street I was skeptical when I read our government's recommendations
our authorities recommendations to give morphine to our elderly at the elderly homes
when they showed symptoms of COVID I felt very bad about that and this was springtime 2020
so a year I had different skeptical thoughts about the whole pandemic show
but I fell for my mother's fear and I took the COVID vaccine and in August the 23rd of August
a nurse called us from the intestinal section at
Drottning Silviats barnsjukhus it's Queen Silviats Children's Hospital in Göteborg Gothenburg
and she called us and she said very cautiously well
Niklas should have the COVID vaccine and we are wondering what time is good for you etc.
and I was a little bit I was surprised
but at the same time as I said I was very conditioned to trust the health care and the
specific this specific section of the hospital so I immediately said well yes of course no problem
I didn't hesitate and she as I later understood because of former reasons asked me
because of former reasons asked me
what does Niklas think about the vaccine I was a little bit surprised because I was conditioned
also to always take full responsibility of his health care all this care you know and I said
well I don't think he has a problem with that and in the back of my mind
I had various thoughts and feelings one thought was
that I don't want to go against the society because of the risk that they will question me as a parent
and social authorities etc. would come at me and take my children away
that sounds hysterical but it was a hysterical time the mass hysteria was very
all around and in mainstream media in our newspapers in Sweden our
ministers said stuff like we will find out who is not taking the vaccine and we will register them
and we will find out what their habits are and why they are not taking the vaccine etc.
so I felt a little bit scared to go against society but it was also it was mainly that I was
conditioned to trust the health care and I was thinking why should I read on the internet
I was thinking why should I read on the internet although that was my habit to read a lot on the
internets in this issue I was thinking why should I trust some weirdos on the internet
instead of the health care and the personnel the doctors and nurses that saved my son when he was
a baby also Nicholas had his humograph replaced when he was 11 years old 2019 in August
some more background what I didn't know
was that already in July the 9th of July the World Health Organization
gave directions to health care all over the world to warn about myocarditis and pericarditis
pericarditis
as a adverse event from the COVID vaccines the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna
but we were not warned at all
so there were no informed consent
and
the second thing is that they gave me Moderna's COVID vaccine that had that I've understood have
more mRNA molecules in it this kind of synthetic replicants of mRNA molecules in it
the Moderna is more concentrated and the people's the Sweden's public health agency
actually stopped Moderna's COVID vaccine for everybody born 1991 and later the 6th of October
the 4th of October the Swedish public health agency gave a press release
of the Moderna vaccine and the first shot was taken on the 6th of September 2021
and the second one the 4th of October the 4th of October the Swedish public health agency
the Swedish public health agency gave a press release that stated that children should only have
Pfizer's COVID vaccine this was totally ignored by Queen Silvia's children's hospital
as well as they didn't give any chance for an informed consent and they did not do an
individual assessment as the Swedish Pediatric Society urged them to do in their recommendation
the Swedish Pediatric Society was springtime 2021 against giving COVID vaccine to children
but they changed their mind about specific groups among them transplanted children
from 12 years up during the summer and that's why they called us I learned this later
that's why the hospital called us because of the decision from both Swedish Pediatric Society and
the Swedish public health agency to change the recommendation for certain groups 12 years and up
it really affects me to talk about it because I can feel that you are listening
and I can feel your anger and I can feel that you know so much about this
you're an audience that I've never had and it really affects me
I get really really angry talking about it could I just ask you one thing
yes so your son so the the recommendation from the Swedish Pediatric Society or whatever the name was
was that 12 and above but your son wasn't 12 or above yes he was 13 years old oh sorry he was 13
yes okay yes yes okay and what they should have done for example was to talk to his liver doctor
to his liver doctor Robert Salman and his heart doctors they did not do that there are no evidence
for that in the journals and I have spoken to the chief of the section Nils Ekvall in May 2022
a couple of months after Nicola's death and he said to me
that they read the children's journals and looked for contra
what was his word again contraindications for the COVID vaccine
what kind of contraindication could it be I asked him well actually
nothing he said
I don't feel so intelligent especially as I let this monster into my son
but I have moments of a clear view so I asked him
about allergy allergy from the COVID vaccine well we only know about allergy after the first shot
after the first shot so why did you tell me I asked him that you looked for contraindications
in the journals was that simply a formality and he said yes
it was
then in May 2022 a couple of months after Nicola's death
where after that call that I understood that I have to go to war
my suspicions about the COVID vaccine causing Nicola's illness started at the hospital
and now I will go into why he got sick how he how he got sick two months after his second shot
he got the chills and a fever
it was a Saturday we had a nice taco dinner it's very typical Swedish thing to have on a Saturday
probably in your countries as well and we had a really good time this was the 4th of December so
I brought home a tree a Christmas tree that afternoon and the children decorated it
and it was after dinner we were dancing around a little bit being a little bit silly
and all of the sudden I held Nicola's head in my hands like this looking him looking him in the eyes
and all of a sudden I said you are a little bit thin
you are a little bit thin
and his younger sibling said yes mother is say
mother said he is a little bit thin as well and then he went and then I said maybe you should
eat a little bit more and then he ate a little bit more because he was very loyal kind trusting
you know he was a very kind boy very very he had integrity and he was courageous but he was also
very kind and he loved his family a lot so he ate a little bit more and then he went to brush his
teeth and then he went to bed obviously it was ridiculous that they asked him to eat a little
bit more you know but yeah anyway I did and he went to bed and he got the chills all of the sudden
I heard him shivering from the other side of the corridor in our house and I went there
and he had he was shivering and he had fever and I gave him some medication to bring fever down
and then he after an hour or so he vomited and I asked the children if there were if there were
some disease like norovirus on the school and they confirmed that and he fell asleep
and actually I was watching him you know as we do as parents
when he fell when he was asleep I was looking after him a little bit looking at him
and I was in my head I had this voice oh what am I thinking here that he's going to die
that he's going to die
oh I'm so silly just looking at him like that you know
he's not going to he's he's okay I was thinking you know and
um
he didn't vomited anything more that night he
had a fever the next day as well and he vomited a lot the second night but I was my stomach started
to be a little bit upset so I was thinking okay now it's my turn now I get it the norovirus is
coming to me as well and so I was thinking all I was thinking the norovirus straight through it you know and
he ate a little bit of yogurt and drank a little bit water and stuff like that and he was sleeping
a lot and the second night he was vomiting a lot and the third the day after he was not vomiting
anymore and his fever went a little bit down and the third night he his fever was okay but he
started to ache a lot he cried during night time he had he was aching his body was aching
uh I was thinking yeah it's a little bit unusual for him but probably this is what you can expect
after fever the day the third day
on the afternoon he was sitting in the sofa watching tv he wanted to have some french fries
I guess for the salt and
he watched tv and it was only me and him and all of the sudden
he says to me I cannot feel my legs
and I was terrified and I called for an ambulance and they were a little bit difficult because of
the covid had he has he had covid etc and then they came with an ambulance and in the ambulance
I asked the nurse what do you think this is probably an infection she said I didn't know
what to think about it for me an infection could be anything I wasn't thinking about bacteria but
at the hospital
they found out that he had sepsis and he had a fever and he had a fever and he had a fever and
sepsis
and they found out that he had an infection a bacterial infection in the heart in in his
homograft as well as maybe other places but they gave him antibiotics for a week and then that
bacteria still were there and it moved around and
it got dangerous and they decided to do surgery on him open heart surgery
and
after the decision I wasn't there I was at home because at
at the hospital
we switched all the we switched me and his mother we switched
so one was there and the other at home or later on a place close to the hospital where we could
live etc and at the intensive care we could only and much more sorry there are countless
options to choose from thing trick can completely change the way you watch tv especially
especially
so anyway
your wife and you were taking we were switching and he called me
Nicholas his mother helped him to call me and he was telling me that he was going to surgery
I was shocked and I felt a big way on my shoulders and I felt very very sad that this fantastic
work that Peter Jögin had done on his heart was going to be destroyed
and also the work that the doctors had done 2019 that everything would go to waste
and
he comforted me and said I love you dad he he sounded very calm
and I sounded like I do now I was trying to hold back my tears and I said to him I love you and
and then he went through a 20 hour long surgery 20 hours
and I was calling all the time and asking how he did and so on and after he woke up again I
asked him about the chess the chess match that we had before at the hospital I wanted to see if he
could he if he could use his mind and I asked him do you remember who won and he took his right hand
and pointed at himself because he won you know and
then I felt good that he had his mind intact but that was not the whole story he had
he had
his liver failed his kidneys failed and he had had and he had a stroke from this those 20 hours
so he couldn't move his left arm and left leg
and we noticed that after a day or so and I started to train him immediately to move his
left hand and left foot
foot
but the doctors were not very optimistic the neurologist
looked a little bit weird haven't you been told the situation when we asked her about school and
how we would come back you know
are you not briefed with the situation she said okay they acted very strange and nervous all the
time I can tell you you know I think you should note I think you would have noticed that as well
as you are doctors and I had some experience from doctors at that time and they were not acting
normal the way they were nervous all the time all through the 68 days of martyrdom that my son went
through at the hospital 68 days and it had all and it had only started with a stroke
I tried to keep a positive mind and I wanted to surround Nicholas with positive thoughts
I wanted I acted very calmly I saw to I saw to it that I had sleep at nights that I ate
that I ate so I was able to act calmly around the nurses some of the nurses were were very
empathetic and good and some of the nurses acted very strange some of the doctors were more empathetic
than other as always so nothing strange with that but for some reason he didn't get
better I mean the infection were there they said they told us the infection must still be there
somewhere because the fever went up and down and the status of the infection the effect of
they measured the effect of the infection I haven't looked up that word but I'm sure you
know what I'm talking about so the figures told them that he had an infection and they opened up
his chest again
for a VAC a pump removing impurity from the from the heart
and he had that so he was open he had this he had his chest open
and he sat in a wheelchair for a couple of hours sometimes and
I want to illustrate his character and personality with some episodes some occasions from the
hospital because I think it's important I feel that it's important for me to
to describe his personality because it contrasts to his killers
so
he is the opposite of his killers
and what I mean by that is that he was rarely upset but when he was upset it was often
a moral indignation
and at this time the nurses were occupied with some nonsense
and they could only they could only move him from the wheelchair to the bed they told me if they
were two and the other nurse she was doing some bullshit you know moving papers around doing
you know moving papers around doing some kind of work that she obviously didn't have to do exactly
them instead of helping him because he got more and more sore and he asked again and again for
them to move him to the bed because he was in pain and all of the sudden and I told them as well
you well you have to move but I actually I was I was on my way to tell them when he slammed his
fist in the wheelchair and he said you are slow and I could hear what he meant you are impure
and they moved him to the bed
he was slowly rehabilitating he could move his left foot and left arm more and more he had a
Harry Potter is it called wand yes he had this Harry Potter wand and he was moving it I gave it
I gave it to him at his birthday just as a fun thing to give him besides the other presents
because obviously he was 13 years old but it was a fun thing to give him and and I gave it and I
brought it to the hospital and he used it in his training and he more and more could do the
movements with his left hand and
and
yeah I have a I have a photo of him by the way here this was is this can you see this no
this is his last summer
there
a very positive boy a very he was always focusing focusing on good stuff
and being very kind and enjoying to follow sports follow soccer he was
uh yeah he was also good at soccer he was very talented actually and
he was talented with balls all all kind of sports with balls he was good at it and
um
there was one concern because one of the cardiologists the pediatric cardiologists
she came to me in or already after the first operation she came to me and said
there is a concern because we have moved the anteria and uh uh there seem to be uh it's a
little bit too narrow uh where they sue it you know so it it's a little bit it's a risk for uh
uh uh a cardiac arrest there but they follow they followed it up and they uh
it looked good the troponin was at a good level level uh etc and I actually asked a doctor
uh the same day as his younger sibling was there visiting outside the window because they didn't
allow uh children there so the his younger sibling had to uh speak to him from the other side of the
window and he was happy for that and uh I asked the doctor how is the troponin looking and he
said it's looking good and I put my chin to his chin like or his more or less his
head like this and I said goodbye to him and his mother took over that day and uh the next
the evening he video called me and his younger sibling after the place where we stayed at the
nights we stayed at the place Ronald McDonald house close to the hospital uh I was sleeping
there and he video called us and uh his younger sibling was showing the place like in MTV style
this is my crib you know and uh and he was uh happy for that but he got a little bit tired and
he said I'm going to rest now and the next day me and his younger sibling ate some
Thai food at a place near the hospital and then we went to uh say hello to him through the window
because uh we knew where his room was and we didn't see him there and we didn't see anyone there
and then we went to meet his mother and then the chief physician called the chief physician
Anders called me it uh yeah it has happened something uh your son had a cardiac arrest and
and
and his it's not looking good yes and
then he underwent surgery again and a stent was installed that operation I think took maybe
uh nine hours or so but the the physicians called us parents and wanted to speak to us
after the surgery and they told us about this but they didn't tell us a problem a big problem and
that was that he had bad circulation for 50 minutes before they could bring him in the
uh heart and lung machine so he got uh very bad brain damages from this
and um severe brain damages
and um tried to cool him down while he was sleeping while he was still sleeping
and then he uh wake woke up and I was there again that's the first time and he looked at me
when he woke up and then Anders the chief physician entered the room
he had a very dark voice like this well he was also very tall the Swedish viking
you might say well it doesn't look good he said
and I was kind of immediately irritated on him and I was like I saw that Nikolas moved his eyes
to the voice so that gave me an immediate immediate thought that well he's not unaware
anyway he said he's aware
he was not brain dead the brain waves were not uh flat he had no uh he had he didn't have the
doll's eye syndrome or anything like that he simply didn't talk and he didn't move voluntarily
anymore but I started to read about the brain and how plastic it is and I kept my hope to train him
and bring him back
and uh
it was a very hard struggle the neurologists noticed what I noticed that he could move on
command a little bit sometimes he could shake their hands sometimes when they asked for it
and sometimes he didn't shake their hands when they asked for it well that's natural I don't
I didn't think it was strange and I filmed him and I video I videotaped him while giving him
instruction for example to chew on his ventilator tube and he chewed when I asked him to do it
for example uh Anders again well I have to talk to you well every day almost every day
he came to me and said I have to talk to you and he took me to a room and well it doesn't look good
he will not have a worthy life okay but are you sure uh do we know
his chances to move again etc well well he didn't believe it would be so good but uh
um and he didn't believe Niklas could breathe without the ventilator
no I don't think he will be able to do it and then I was there when he removed the ventilator
and Niklas was breathing perfectly so it was no problem without the ventilator
and um
um they called to a meeting me and his mother they wanted to tell us that they had decided
to not give him the ventilator back if he had a crisis to not give him heart surgery again and not
to and and uh to not start his heart again if it stopped
and uh they had the right to to those decisions I read I didn't have a lawyer or anything
I read about it that they had this right and um I was uh I was filing a report to the IVO it's
uh an authority in Sweden where you can file reports on health care I filed a report because
I was angry and I was upset that uh they hadn't recognized this risk for cardiac arrest more
I know that this uh pediatric cardiologist Marie Bartos that I spoke about she warned them every
conference about it but they were a little bit chauvinistic and didn't believe
that the risk was so big so I filed a report on that
and they and they I think they saw me as an enemy by then
anyway I had to I my my uh
behavior was very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very
measured as Stephen uh taught me to say he he taught me that word measured measured so my my
behavior was measured uh but I think they were beginning to see me as an enemy
which I didn't understand why because I thought they wanted I I thought before this I thought
they would do anything to save a child but they didn't want to save him they didn't want
they didn't believe in him they wanted him to die
which totally traumatized me but I kept struggling for example I was struggling for them to
suction the mucus they didn't want it in the beginning when they moved him to the medicine
section from the intensive care there was an American doctor there she had an American accent
and she said with this American accent
uh we will not have any monitoring over oxygen and pulse
why I said yes we will I said yes we will have that okay she said okay almost immediately
she didn't argue with me so he had his oxygen and pulse was monitored of course
I was very shocked when she said that
uh
there was some progress I think because I was very happy when I moved him from the wheelchair
to the bed and he was bare and I was uh kind of asking him uh well I I will get a blanket for you
soon Nikolas is that okay and a couple of days before that I actually told him you will speak
again and and the first thing you will say is ah I told him that and actually when I asked him
I would get the blanket for you is that okay it came from him ah
he answered me I was shocked it was a triumph I was so proud as I always were
over him and I looked at the nurse and she was also American isn't that strange an American
doctor and an American nurse all of a sudden from nowhere and I looked at the American nurse
I'm telling you this from their accents you know they had American accents so uh I was looking at
the American nurse very proud you know and I was expecting her to also smile back noticing this but
she was uh in another mental place because she immediately asked me so there is zero
this zero zero ventilator zero HLR and zero surgery here she was asking me to confirm
that they didn't want to save his life if he had a crisis she was at another place mentally
I was like shocked and I was like yeah yes yeah another time I was upset I didn't keep my temper
all the time one time I took a nurse aside because she was talking about everything that
Nicholas did as reflexes well it's a reflex and then there's a here's another reflex and
blah blah blah and I took her aside and I said I don't want you to share your opinions about
reflexes I'm not interested I don't want to hear anything more about reflexes
uh she looked at me like I was yeah nothing you know and uh
there was some kind there was some other strange stuff but uh I'm moving forward here to uh
to uh
actually that one day they said we're going to remove the antibiotics to see if the infection
is still there and before that the days before that they did some strange things for example
well his mother noticed as she had been working in care she noticed that this specially designed
this special bed he had it was like an inflatable bed they had put it on the lowest degree of air
so it was very very soft at the same time they gave him
sedatives of course but they also gave him clonidine
I don't know if that's the English word but uh it's relaxing the muscles
they also gave him they also doubled his dose of uh
of uh
nurture do you call it nurture like his food they doubled his dose of food that he
nutrition they doubled his nutrition
and uh the night after they doubled it he I woke up because at the medic medicine
section I was allowed to sleep in the same room so uh I was I woke up because
he vomited Nicholas vomited a lot and I could hear the nurses talking to each other
should we wake the father up no fuck him they said in that harsh language
and I woke up and I was trying to assist assisting them a little bit and I could see that his vomit
and I could see that his vomit came down through his yeah it went down his lungs yeah
Bobo you I don't know whether you've done it no I was just coughing so I muted myself I'm back
so anyway
I could see that his nutrition went down his lungs and a couple days later as I said they
took away the antibiotics and obviously he started to cough a lot and they decided that he was deadly
sick his eyes were clear I can show you pictures there are pictures in the biggest
newspaper of Sweden I can tell you why but I made the biggest newspaper of Sweden interview me and
it was a totally unfiltered interview which is fantastic but I will tell you about it later
but anyway his eyes were clear but they told him that the infection got the best of him and that
he was dying and it was the head of the intensive care that all of the sudden came into the room
and he was very energetic filled with energy like he just had a fantastic meal you know
meal you know and he was like hello I'm the head of intensive care we haven't met yes blah blah blah
and we can shake hands there's no restrictions anymore from today he sounded like
like he run a circus more than he run intensive care and all of the sudden he changed mode
he changed to a very serious mode and he said well he's very very sick now
okay I was thinking he's not more sick now than
a couple of weeks ago no so they called us to a meeting and they told me that he and me and his
mother they were like 17 doctors there 17 doctors more or less in this meeting and they told him
well he's he's deadly sick the infection is there somewhere we don't know where but it's there and
we're going to remove the nutrition we're going to take away the nutrition
and I was afraid that if I struggled
I mean I had read that they had this right to take away treatment that they thought was prolonged
prolonging their suffering but I also thought that if I
prolonged this it would result in him dying from his mucus
that his mucus would suffocate him because they didn't want to give him a ventilator
so I didn't say anything and one of the doctors said is it because we are so many
that you don't talk
I was in a very intensive shock so I thought he was kind no nothing can
can take away this pain I said I thought he was empathetic but afterwards I understood that he
was enjoying the peer pressure the the idea of bullying anyway
I haven't used alcohol or drugs for 12 years now and by 2022 it was nine years without alcohol and
drugs so obviously when I started to hallucinate it wasn't because of drugs because namely what I
did I was sitting in Nikola's room and I was watching the trees outside far away and all of
the sudden a black arch were coming down from the sky moving like a an ufo over the trees a big black
arch
and I was thinking okay that's strange but I was in shock and
a couple of days later Nikola's died it was half past 12
the 13th of February I was the only relative there and they picked some very young nurses
to give him inhalation in the beginning they were sectioning his mucus a little bit but
and I was sectioning it I saw at the monitor of oxygen and pulse that his brain was going
but I still want and he had morphine and he was deep he was asleep deep
deeply asleep and I but I still wanted to take away the mucus because it ran a very thick line
of mucus from his nose from his nostril so I took this suction device and I helped him and I went
to the bathroom and when I came out the nurse the nurses had locked the suction device
the suction device
and I asked the nurse are we not going to section anymore no no no no we're not we're not why
yeah I don't know why I don't know why she said she was like 20 years old maybe
I didn't want to act upset around Nikola's I wanted to to give him a peaceful environment
but the aggression from my spine was intense so I had all of the sudden I was aching in my neck
a lot and I there was some kind of massage pillow there and I took it and laid down
lay down besides Nikola's bed and put the massage to my neck
and I dissociated a little bit and I was thinking like yes Nikola's is going to sleep a little bit
and I can take a small rest and I fell asleep and the nurse woke me up she was shaking me a
little bit and she said now Nikola's just took his last breath
I felt a little bit accused and shocked of course and I rushed up
and I put my hand on his chest and Nikola's drew another deep breath and it reminded me of how he
acted when we were swimming together and came up from the water and he pushed his chest out
and I had my hand on it and the nurse the nurse replied
oops I fooled daddy
and this sounds like I'm making it up but it's I'm not I'm not making this up
it's I'm not I'm not making this up and when I'm telling you this I'm very surprised that I'm
not making this up that this actually happened but this happened and she flashed she had a
flashlight and he took one more breath and then she shown the flashlight in his pupils and said
no he's dead and
I have described it
I have described it thank you so much Sean I have described it as I as something pierced me like a
sword or a or a spear pierced my heart from the back and I felt absolutely like garbage
and I felt
like I had the plague that I was an outcast that I was nothing that I was of zero value as a father
here
at the same time I had my suspicions all the way from the beginning at the hospital
I asked a little bit about the vaccine because I started to google and I understood
uh because Nicholas Young's sibling told me during Nicholas fevers Nicholas Young's sibling
told me and he got this fever and he got this fever after the second shot of the COVID vaccine
as well and you know they've stopped that vaccine now what did they but I didn't think more of it
because I didn't relate his fever to the vaccine but at the hospital it came back to me and I
started to google why they stopped the COVID vaccine and I didn't know I didn't even know if
he had Moderna or Pfizer because they told me he will either have Moderna or Pfizer when they called
for the vaccination so I a couple of days couple of days later after Nicholas death I went home
and I looked at his vaccination card that he actually kept in a small bag sports like more
a purse more or less that I gave him for his birthday and I looked at the card and I saw that
it was Moderna and I uh this was after this was after his death but also before his death
when I read about the COVID vaccine the mRNA vaccine could cause myocarditis etc. I asked the
doctors is it possible that a myocarditis weakened his heart and made it
and made this bacterial infection happen no no no that's totally and that's no that has nothing
to do with that you know they said after his death I also spoke to Marie Bartos again and she said
well if he would have if he had had a myocarditis he would have had pain but that was not true
because I researched it and I looked it up that it is not necessarily painful so I
uh as I said to you I spoke to the head of the section Nils Ekvall I spoke to him in May 2022
and he told me all this bullshit about contraindications and stuff like that and
I understood that there were no individual assessment and I started
my actions to investigate this was looking a long time for some evidence medical evidence
that there could be a weakening of the heart result from a myocarditis resulting in a bacterial
endocarditis I didn't find enough information but this was my idea and
it took all the way to January 2023 I got in in touch with a wonderful
woman called her name is Sabrina and I started to
uh meet her and talk to her and I went to Stockholm and together with her we went to
the conference the pandemic strategies the conference called pandemic strategies in January
2023 and I listened for example to a Sima Hottra and Ryan Cole and I spoke to them afterwards
but actually it was when I listened to Arne Burkhardt professor Arne Burkhardt the famous
pathologist that tragically died a couple of months after that actually it was when I listened to
Arne Burkhardt and his findings from uh from covid vaccine victims because he did autopsies
together with Sukharit Bhakti professor Sukharit Bhakti and him they did 70
autopsies as you know of covid vaccine deaths and they found horrific stuff and I had to
leave my place I said to Sabina
uh I have to go I will sit a little bit longer from the stage
and I went to another place and I was sitting in the back feeling very sick I felt like I wanted
to vomit like like I wanted to throw up but I
I decided to talk to Arne Burkhardt and I went down afterwards and I shook his hand
and uh I see Malhotra and uh Ryan Cole was also there and we spoke about Nicholas and I presented
the facts the medical evidence and uh all the medical facts more or less and uh there were
some other doctors there there as well and Arne Burkhardt he looked me straight in my eyes with
his very clear light blue eyes he said very calmly first myocarditis then endocarditis that's all he
said actually so I went home to Sabina's place and at the evening a man called me
by the name of Ulf Bittner a Swedish man he died just a couple of weeks ago
but he was a very special man he has his own YouTube channel he had a newsletter
a fantastic man he was so informative he wasn't at all intellectual he was uh he was
a soldier he was not an intellectual he gathered information and he spewed it out in his channels
and he was like a machine he was a fantastic human being and he uh Ulf Bittner died thank you
thank you Silja for your question Ulf Bittner died from uh actually from the failure of a heart
surgery uh he didn't want a stent but they forced it uh on him and he's he had failure of uh
uh his stomach couldn't get rid of water and he had failure of of his vital organs
but I can tell you more about that later but uh anyway Ulf Bittner he wanted to interview me
and after that after that
Sweb TV it's uh it's uh
it's a it's a YouTube channel that is pretty close to the Sweden Democrats they wanted to
interview me as well
I don't think it has anything to do with it but the journalist that interviewed me
got fired the day after and they never published the long interview that he did only a short
on a couple of seconds but anyway um this started something because Ulf Bittner he
told me you have to report this directly to a prosecutor how do you mean I said what do you mean
it's better that you report this straight to
yes his name was Jesper Johansson Silja he's a fantastic guy I love him a lot he we still
keep in touch uh he was the best journalist on that channel and he was fired and he didn't get to
they shut him off totally he couldn't even pick something up from his office
they didn't want him to access his computer and it was very strange but uh I don't think it has
anything actually I don't think it has anything to do with uh the interview he did with me because
they are very skeptical uh towards the covid vaccine etc but anyway
Ulf Bittner he told me you have to do a report to the directly to the prosecutor okay and
fortunately his good friend was uh also interviewing me together with Ulf and his good friend was Dr
Björn Hammarskjöld he's a former chief pediatric physician and he helped me with the medical
evidence uh medical evaluation and we filed this report to the prosecutor and the prosecutor turned
it down and said there is not enough evidence of the connection between the vaccine and the death
and uh we uh worked even harder I digged very deep in documents uh medical reports
clinical analysis etc uh and I uh like my method was to mail Björn everything I had
I said as I told Stephen yesterday I use chat GPT as well to organize the information and give me
chronologies and stuff like that and I I mailed everything to Björn and he said well okay maybe
but this is not totally correct and this is correct and you know and we we transcribed something out
of it we we transcribed something out of it that actually made the prosecutor change her mind
that is something you know that totally shook me because
I've always felt that I have certain talents but I've also felt a little bit insecure and
a little bit yes traumatized already when I was a teenager and I I I don't have
I didn't have a lot of confidence but when I saw this I was totally shocked and I felt well
I couldn't save Nikolas life uh I even um cooperated in his death unwillingly of course
I was fooled to do it because I wanted to to protect him and they fooled me to protect him
with something that killed him so I didn't feel very confident but I I understood that I had done
something very good and the prosecutor actually said that I was going to kill him and I said
something very good and the prosecutor actually wrote in a letter because of the information
added to the case I have changed my mind and I will now start an investigation a preliminary
investigation okay and
I called the the Swedish
state tv they were not interested there is not enough news value they said I was so angry
this is not
this is not very characteristic for me but I actually started to yell at a drunk man at the bus
afterwards I had I actually had a rage at the bus I started to yell at a very drunk man
man uh after this so uh that really upset me that the tv that the television didn't want to
report on it but it didn't stop me uh I continued to uh uh talk about this was interviewed by Ulf
Bittner of course he was so happy and he made a video interview he was so happy and
Björn Hammarskjöld was there and we felt like boys in a candy shop and
yes he was fantastic and uh and Björn as well he's also fantastic um and um anyway
uh epoch times decided to interview me the swedish epoch times that was a wonderful
interview but I felt this is still too small
I got to know a very fantastic woman she is the mother
she's the mother-in-law to Pontus Seavius the victim of Moderna's COVID vaccine he died
in the end of January 2022 two weeks only two weeks after he sent his COVID vaccine shots from
COVID vaccine shots from Moderna he died from a cardiac arrest he got home
one day and feeling bad and he told his wife and his daughter who was only seven eight or eight
years old uh I feel bad I have to take a walk what's wrong baby she said and he was taking
this walk and it was snowy this is was in a fantastic landscape called Värmland it's very
beautiful there so he was like taking this walk uh in uh among the houses where they lived and
he felt worse and worse and he felt pain in his chest and he called uh emergency
911 is called 112 in Sweden but anyway he called uh emergency but they said to him
that sounds like anxiety we recommend I recommend you to call uh the priest
uh the priest a priest I mean this priest taking calls you know and he got uh a cardiac arrest
after that phone call there was an ambulance in the in the area so he got help but it was of no use
he died on his way to the hospital or perhaps at the hospital I can't remember but
anyway he was only 30 years old and he shouldn't have had the Moderna because it was stopped for
his age group so actually they won they received a small economical compensation for his death
the family I mean from the state so the state has acknowledged that he died from COVID
the Moderna's COVID vaccine and um I met his mother-in-law at the the book uh there's like
there's like a big book show in Göteborg in Gothenburg every year and I spoke there and I met
his mother-in-law there and I also spoke to her on a whole lot on the phone this was uh of course
2023 and it was fall 2023 uh no it was sorry it was spring this was springtime 2024 actually
because the interview the interview in Epoch Times was published in uh October 2023 and then
this happened and and this book show was
in September 2023 and then springtime those out 2024 she called me and the mother-in-law
to Pontus she said the police is starting an investigation about Pontus as well
Wow great I said I was a little bit post-traumatic uh it's a little bit better now but uh
during that time I could get very irritated and switch personality a little bit so uh I
was a little bit harsh and told her
and told her
if the biggest newspaper Aftonbladet and Expressen that's also a big newspaper if the biggest
newspaper call you now I want to report about this you have to mention Nikolas and me
yes I always mention you because they there were some reports in local media and stuff like that
always yes but you have to yes of course she would have done it anyway but this was what
happened I want to be honest that uh I was a little bit harsh but it would have happened anyway and uh
uh
Linnea Blomgren from Aftonbladet called me and she is a young woman she had uh
recently started there at Aftonbladet
it means evening post and uh she wanted to interview me and for some reason she made a totally
unfiltered interview it was published and immediately they called from Göteborg's biggest
newspaper and Expressen that is also a big newspaper and they wanted to interview me as well
they followed the lead
the Göteborg posten the biggest uh paper of Göteborg did that woman also a young woman also
also a young woman also angelic both they are both beautiful not that it matter but
they are angelic both of those journalists they have a very kind way and they are
they are fantastic in any in every way not that I know them but what I've known from them and
uh this uh journalist from Göteborg she also did a totally unfiltered interview not a single lie
every word that I said and she quoted me when I said that the state murdered my son
and that is fantastic I think you know and um this is
why I wanted to share some moments from the hospital with you that I had with Nikolas
and how his character is because his character is still working in this
and it will conquer evil all through the world
it resulted in more attention and I got to know Celia Farber that is a big inspiration for me
and my idol I would say I've always been fascinated by investigative journalists all
the way from I was a child and and Celia Farber is one of the greatest
uh that exposed Fauci in the 80s you know
I haven't done enough research but Celia I think you would agree that you
there that you were unique that did this and you must be a very unique person that did that
and uh of course I have digged into what Fauci did and uh what he did
did and what role he played but I will not go into that but I will
say before your questions that Celia introduced me to Dr Kirk Milhawan
the pediatric cardiologist that also read Nikolas journals and stated for the police
that Moderna's COVID vaccine is the most likely primarily cause of Nikolas death and that is
on paper for the police and the police has recently switched the man in charge there
and they have moved it to a section for heavy crime I don't know why but the prosecutor is
the prosecutor is still on this she told me on the phone before Christmas that she has to prioritize
people in jail waiting for their trial well I can understand that but
there's still some hope I I absolutely think that there is hope for a trial in our case
and I would be happy if you have some questions because I don't think I will
say anything more about that although we have we have we have questions but before we go to Stephen
thank you so much for your heart-wrenching testimony and and the only I have five children
and I just can't imagine going through what you've gone through before we go to Stephen
for the first several questions Celia would you like to say something before Stephen starts
because Bobo is here with us because of your recommendation Celia
it's a little hard it's a little hard to talk like so many of us it's
Bobo's story and how he tells it it just brings you to tears it's it's so because how he
how he is as a human being as you've all just heard and how he takes in the world and expresses
everything it's it's it's it's like the the whole person the whole heart the whole is perceiving
everything and describing everything in such harrowing detail and it's actually even beyond
the murder of of the mRNA shots it's and with Nicholas's death what strikes me as somebody
who's half Swedish and grew up in Sweden that in addition it takes place in this
surreal not surreal like very dystopic setting and when he tells his story Bobo when you tell
your story I'm just I feel like I'm there with you I'm I'm just white knuckling and I'm on the
edge of tears and I can see all these people in fact when you first when you and I first started
started talking you told the story about I think it was that guy who burst in who had all that
energy and wasn't it something he said about a tie what was it could you tell that story I know
it's this was actually thank you for asking this was actually what you are talking about is actually
the decon I haven't mentioned him if you would share that story real quick because it's all right
yeah he actually entered the room together with the chief of the head of intensive care
so you're right on that and he was also filled with energy and like he had a good meal
they were happy that Nicholas was going to die that was obvious this decon I had as yeah
he he I was going to him for talks all through the time on the hospital
and in the beginning I felt that it was a good support because I kind of I felt that I could
cry a little bit and then go back to Nicholas and not crying with Nicholas so I cried with this man
it was a bald a little bit fat man
he was nothing special but as as long as he kept his mouth shut I believed that he was listening
to me and I was crying but when he when he started to talk a little bit I understood that
there was something really wrong with him because I noticed that he wanted to test me and see if I
could obey obey the hospital more or less he was he had some kind of role to make
the relatives obedient and
um
when I listened to him talking to a mother and father in the kitchen one day I heard he I heard
the father telling him well I guess we just have to trust in God hell no he said
that's right say it in Swedish for a second
uh
it's like yeah it's like if you translate it directly it's like the devil knows the devil knows
yeah so this is so bizarre this whole dimension to your story it's like something is very wrong
like a horror movie with all the people you just almost all the people you describe at this hospital
there's another episode where a lady a nurse
was there at his bed at Nicholas bed after his severe brain damage and he had also spasms he had
like epileptic attacks after his brain damages and he was shivering a little bit and she was like
and he started to have a hiccup and she was like telling him in my country we scare children to
stop the hiccups maybe I should scare you and I said no you no you don't and she started and
she pushed the limit even more because all of the sudden she started to say uh
uh do you know Nicholas that we're talking shit about you behind the glass
are you serious this was supposed to be funny but how funny is it when the boy your boy my boy
has so severe brain damage that he can talk and move voluntarily how funny is it you know not very
funny so I asked the doctors to remove her and I didn't saw her there anymore but back to the deacon
or the dean I think the dean is the word right no dean would be a head of a college or university
it's not the dean I don't know what's the word I think deacon is correct okay deacon so he's helping
the priest and whatever and he's from the church this guy and so when Nicholas
when they made the decision to remove the nutrition to take away the nutrition
we wanted to speak to this Johan this guy this deacon we wanted to speak to him about what would
happen after Nicholas died so we went to him in good faith and we asked him and he said very
with a very like with a big satisfaction in his voice when Nicholas is dead
he will be taken to the morgue and the morgue and etc and his mother said we were thinking he
could have a suit because he loves suits he liked he liked uh he liked Barney in
the sitcom how I met your mother yeah so he liked suits and he wanted and she said maybe he can have
a suit and he said yeah and a small tie from Armani maybe and I was looking at him very
disgusted but I didn't want to upset anything around this so I kept my mouth shut but
that person is definitely on my list to expose and humiliate
because I am a very vengeful person I'm not very I'm I come across
I think I come across a little bit sweet but I can be very vengeful and he's definitely on my list
to in all legal ways humiliate as much as I can because he definitely didn't serve God
yeah I mean for those again just to go over that first of all now that I'm hearing it again these
stories there's they're breathtaking details and I think for those of us you know I'm half Swedish
and half American but I'm more American but I think for people who aren't Swedish they probably
don't even fit anywhere in anybody's imagination like what is this who are these people what
I wouldn't say that it's specifically Swedish this I would say that something rotten happened during
during the pandemic I think I think they were dragged into some kind of demonic vibrations
yes from the pandemic so probably it's a lot of people don't even know what it is
so probably at its own demonic vibrations so these were like the Swedish demonic vibrations
as they manifested interesting yeah maybe they maybe they escalated the Swedish demons yeah
I mean you have a deacon who you're who's saying
the devil no it's also anyway I just I'm so honored to be your friend and I'm so proud of you and
I just want to give other people a chance to ask you questions and you're just you thank you so
much likewise thank you thank you so much Celia all right Stephen your video is off over to you
Stephen your video is off over to you for the next 15 minutes yeah just two seconds
there we are so I'll pull it down in a second so Bobo thank you so much for talking to us
I think you did so I think I understand you you want to do the best you can for your son
so this meeting is very important for you and I think the video is going to be very powerful
um because you have a remarkable ability to tell stories across international boundaries and
and and in a foreign language for you so it's very I feel that my English is a little bit weak
but thank you anyway well no it's pretty good actually wow great I was struck when you sent
the bio to me about three or four days ago um Bobo I noticed that the English was perfect
well I thank chat GPT for that yes I was just going to tell the story so I asked you um who
had checked it for you because I couldn't believe that your English was so good when it wasn't your
first um language um uh so and you said that it was artificial intelligence yeah and I said well
actually yeah very good job from artificial intelligence but still we have to be aware of
them yes absolutely because it seems to me that artificial intelligence well first of all is not
very intelligent no and but the people using the artificial intelligence have to be extraordinarily
intelligent for no evil to be done that's what I can see now I don't understand it but you then went
tell me that you haven't you didn't say that you haven't but I realized you had an amazing
ability to understand all the tech that's going on because you talked about various things
yeah I will show you I will show you my book this is uh this is a book that I wrote uh 2018
those up to the it took me two years to write this book uh it's about my experiments on the
internet I started to experimenting with dialogue on the internet uh 2007
and I stopped a little bit and I started again 2015 and 2018 I asked a publisher if they wanted
to publish a book about it and I only wrote 14 pages to them and I signed a deal with them
uh and I wrote this book with their help they they gave me a great they gave me a lot of help
actually they are a little bit uh leftish they are like a little bit liberal uh that publisher
and I am a little bit more uh I'm I guess I'm a libertarian more or less uh uh but uh I kind of
I kind of uh lured myself in into their web kind of and and and and the the work we did together was
pretty good and I covered every aspect of advanced internet trolling
and there are ex there are some aspects that are very useful of course they wanted me to be very
self-critical and I went to a therapist and the therapist wrote a chapter in the book as well
I actually let him write a chapter just as an alibi sort of uh to whitewash uh the book to
whitewash myself from the more uh uh yeah from what they
because the truth is that I kind of enjoyed myself experimenting and the experiments were
pretty harmless uh sometimes I'm sure I upset some people but it was almost only about
the big thing I did was to create uh I create big big mobs against myself against I I
um very rare I very rarely used uh another name I used my own name that's why I changed my name
2008 because it was impossible for me to have I was baptized to be as struck to be us to bias
stroke so I was baptized uh uh to be us and uh I changed my name 2008 because it was too
difficult for me to get a job uh with a simple goog a simple uh move on google would destroy
everything for me it was so I I wrote very much political stuff but I always experimented with
kind of like I I wanted to see if I mixed uh discourses from different political angles
and what would happen how would people react would I be able to convince people would I be able to
shake them would I be able to disturb them would I be able to change their views
and what I write here is for example and why I'm talking about this is it's because I'm using this
right now uh I enjoyed doing this when I was younger now I don't have the same
I'm not driven by uh I'm not driven by the amusement anymore of course I'm I'm driven by
trauma uh I'm very driven and it's trauma it's the trauma that is driving me
and the feeling that I'm doing a duty to my son and honoring him but it's the same techniques
I'm using the same same techniques on the internet yes brilliant and for example I'm quoting
um the head of Cambridge Analytica they got known for helping Donald Trump to become the president
of United States 2016 yeah brilliant and uh they are also known from the documentary The Great Hack
uh where it's described how they helped the Ethnic Indian Party UNC to a victory
uh over another party another ethnic party in Trinidad and Trinidad and Tobago 2010 and it's
very interesting um what Mark Turnbull says in an interview with the British The Mirror and I quote
we just put information into the bloodstream of the internet and then watch it grow give it a
little push every now and then give it a little push every now and again over time to watch it
take shape and so this stuff infiltrates the online community and expands but with no branding
so it's unattributable untrackable
so um do you think that's the formation of a cult on the internet even we still can't see your face
it's not only useful for formating cults in this case what they did in Trinidad and Tobago
was that they started a compend they started a trend among young people to not vote
the sorry I find stuff like this amusing but it's not it's really tragic uh they
they made the young people in the African ethnic group not voting so the Indian ethnic group
succeeded to win they they campaigned they started a trend that it was cool to not vote you know
yeah and it's not only useful if you want to create a trend or a cult it's useful to
in fact create a new culture and I call it a global culture without central power
and it will assign my vision my vision is that through internet we are definitely
able to create something much stronger than Fauci ever dreamt of than Gates ever dreamt of
uh what I believe that I in the end can create on the internet uh is only what you know
old men like that can dream of I'm not I'm not very young myself but I find I I find that uh
Bill Gates and uh Anthony Fauci and guys like that they don't understand internet
no so they're very pedestrian in their understanding yes I agree with you so
yes and that's what I spoke yesterday when we were talking I was struck by uh the way you described
how um the internet if you like was manipulated uh by uh groups or people um it doesn't really
matter you've got the creation of a cult and that's exactly how I understood that uh President Trump
had come to power I'm not saying that he did it if you like the the um the cult which was created
was hijacked uh by the people who wanted uh Trump in power from being a businessman he had no history
in politics so it was an extraordinary achievement but now of course yes absolutely think of this
think of this if I can plant an idea
among people that are already close to the edge that are what Hillary Clinton called the deplorable
yep uh long time without work poor people desperate people
if I can plant ideas in their minds of how to conquer how to conquer their enemy and who
their enemy is and uh wouldn't you if you were their enemy wouldn't you come to me
and beg me to plant something merciful among them and is that what the Trump people when they got
in league with the Cambridge Analytica I don't I know about Cambridge Analytica but I'm not I
can't quite remember how it went but um uh the Cambridge Analytica they uh distillated uh
information from millions of Facebook profiles and they manufactured uh targeted ads yes that's
right yes so they um created copyright and pictures and movies you know videos that were
especially designed to reach the hearts of what they understood was the target groups and they
targeted insecure voters voters that hadn't made up their mind yet but but were they targeting those
people on behalf of Trump all along or were they targeting them because this was only for this was
the campaign the Trump campaign this was this method they they invented this method for the
Trump campaign yeah but but were the people around Trump uh egging them on or was it just
offered to them I mean I don't know they were uh you know uh Trump or their their client you know
right Cambridge Analytica it's a PR uh bureau so they were yeah
That's 15 minutes, David. That's 15 minutes so quickly.
Well yeah but I wanted to say one or two things so um Bobo it's very important that we talk about this um so I think your testimony tonight
um has a huge potential um none of us knows really because we're human beings um but we
don't really know where things will go in the future um and not not why either um but I do think that every medical student needs to watch this presentation
Thank you thank you so much. It was a brilliant presentation Bobo if you were worrying about not doing your son justice you had no worries at all.
Well that's very uh helpful for me to hearing that so thank you.
You're absolutely brilliant at telling stories. Yeah wow that means a lot to me to hear yeah and it's no accident that the prosecutor has backed you in my opinion.
Thank you very good thank you Stephen thank you Celia all right we've got Peter's hand up we've got 25 minutes to go and then we're finishing up the presentation.
We're finishing so if others have questions now's the time to put your hand up. Peter who over to you in Wales.
Cheers um Bobo thank you Charles Bobo thank you so much for joining us today um thank you.
I've had to write this down um as I think others would have to. The lack of hands up is because
we're just gobsmacked with your story um your bravery your honesty you're a good man.
Thank you. You give us all hope my friend we sometimes lose our way and this is the sort of kick up the ass we need to know why we're fighting this.
Why we've been meeting twice a week for over four years and sometimes when we get a bit lost maybe we need to read your story and that tells us why we're doing it.
So I'll read out what I wrote because I'm not often lost for words but I am a little bit tonight as I'm sure most people on here are.
Um a couple a couple people put down they felt physically sick at times feeling your pain you your family your wife and thank you all the people around you so.
So sorry you went through all this um so you might put down here your presentation was so painful and uncomfortable for us.
It was agony and it was very real it was needed at this time and was also very inspiring.
It will give us the strength to carry on the fight for humanity and when we falter your tragic loss will highlight us why we must fight on.
So on that point and this is my question in a way um you probably know from Stephen maybe that Charles Covass here myself and some other top experts in the world.
Are dealing with a case for a young man who's on the zoom tonight but he can't speak his phone is playing up but I believe he can hear everything.
His mother was killed by the Pfizer vaccine or the Pfizer treatment it's not a vaccine.
And it's going to inquest now we've got a bit of a problem with that an inquest as you probably know is there to establish.
The and this is important for the other people to know of course I know you know it.
The inquest establishes the cause of death and it's not there to apportion blame.
So we have to be very careful when we get to the inquest because it looks like Pfizer are going to have to appear.
So for us that is a very very important point and we have to get the interest of the um of the inquest judge.
To want to look at an investigation and maybe ask for a criminal investigation afterwards if we are successful.
So on that point and again don't feel you have to answer all of this now but after this.
Zoom if you do think Peter and Charles could do this bit of information or this link so is there anything.
That you can give us maybe or even Celia that will help us establish the causal link.
Or any advice at all on what to focus on or even avoid going forward with our case.
That's my question.
Just let me think a little bit about it because it's a very important question.
And I researched this very thoroughly and I think there are a lot of evidence.
There are for example a study with data from 99 million people.
Have you heard about it? I guess you've heard about it.
Yep.
And it shows 12 medical consequences from the COVID vaccine.
And I think in the bottom of it.
I think when you communicate about this you have to start with.
The simple thing that the.
mRNA molecules embedded in the lipid particles.
Are programming the cell to produce a non-human protein.
Because even if it's a prosecutor it doesn't mean that that person know this.
No.
So if you start there.
And you tell it very in a simple way.
That it's instructing the cell that is programming the cell.
It's introduced in the cell and then it makes the cell produce the spike protein.
And then what happens is that it's supposed to only create antibodies.
But it also stimulates T cells and some of them instruct cells to kill themselves.
And the consequence of that is inflammation.
And the consequence of inflammation can be.
Blood clots.
Can also be scar tissue.
That disturbs the electrical system of the heart if it's if the inflammation occurred in the heart.
Or disturbs the brain and the blood clots can also move through the body and all of the sudden.
Stay at the danger place a dangerous place.
Like in the lungs for example if you if you tell the story like that you start in the.
Intrusive mechanism.
Of the mRNA molecule entering.
The cell.
And changing the cells the function making it produce a non human protein.
If you start there and then you go to.
How the immune system reacts and how it can create.
Inflammations and from there go to how it can create different kinds of medical problems.
Then you have the listener.
The listener.
Occupied by the idea that they are dealing with an enemy to God's creation.
We have to understand that we are protecting the cell by this the cell is in danger.
What will happen if this manipulation of cells continue.
On the whole of humanity it will mean that we will.
This financial elite those big investors and their companies they will create.
Different human species.
They will create some kind of hybrids and you know.
For example in the legal system a prosecutor or a lawyer or police officer.
An investigator for the police.
They have they have to you have to go through their.
You have to go through their.
Fog their brain fog go through their everyday troubles go through everything you know.
Go through their thoughts about you know did I drink too much yesterday.
Am I really going to be unfaithful to my wife.
Is it is it too late to say I'm sorry all of those thoughts in their heads go through it all.
And shake them.
And make them understand that when the cell is in danger.
It's the same thing as when your family is in danger and it's the same thing as when your nation is in danger and it's the same thing.
As when humanity is in danger and the danger comes from a system where big corporations are competing for a low interest.
Because the banks they give the lowest interest to the corporation that maximizes the profit the best.
And because it's a global market there are no longer any national concerns.
And when they when you when you penetrate the brain fog and make them understand that.
We have a real enemy against humanity against the citizens and that's enemy that enemy is the government.
And that's enemy that enemy.
Is.
Inside the military inside the state inside the authorities and.
This enemy is the system the competition for a low interest rate.
And when they understand.
Into my intuition when they understand by intuition.
That they are sitting inside a machine.
That has turned against their family their nation and humanity and their own children.
They will start to revolt revolt silently.
Yes, yes, so they will start breaking the pattern inside the machine you are right, but I know when I have got through to people.
And everything you said there, I was a police prosecutor, I am a lawyer now.
A police prosecutor, I am a lawyer now.
I've been a local government investigator I've done all those things and you have to make it personal.
Yeah.
To the people for them to actually realize oh hang on this affects me I'm not just dealing.
With a situation here this actually affects me and that's one of the things I will be trying to get through to the judge in this.
And one other thing just because obviously your case was Moderna.
I remember back five years ago and I got a very good memory for things.
I remember going on to the Moderna website and it was Moderna TX Texas I believe.
And it said our new mRNA vaccine works like an app on your computer they've changed it now by the way.
It can program your body very much like we can program your computer are the words that Moderna used at the time.
I don't know if I took a screenshot of that but I will go back through my photographs from five years ago.
Interesting.
If I have that I will send it to you.
Thank you.
That would mean a lot because that is a really silly thing to say for them.
Yeah.
So that's very interesting.
But they could easily say it because these people are incredibly arrogant.
They have forgotten their dreams and they don't know what humility is.
They are unbelievable in their hubris.
Absolutely.
And I just want to share a thing that happened in Sweden recently.
We had a big corporation called Northvolt.
Have you heard about it?
They wanted to produce batteries for electric vehicles and it failed completely.
There it was up in the north and many many hundreds of people lost their jobs.
And do you know how much the state invested in this?
Of course in the United States you have BlackRock who owns nine billion dollars.
So this is not so much in comparison but actually the state invested nine billion dollars.
Nine billion.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Silja, a billion is a billion.
Yes.
A billion is a billion.
Yes.
Yes it is.
So actually I was wrong about BlackRock because I think yeah.
Yeah the accurate number is that they own nine trillion dollars.
Nine trillion is nine thousand milliard.
Yes that is the correct word.
BlackRock in the case of BlackRock nine trillion dollars.
In the case of Northvolt the state invested nine billion Swedish crowns.
It's a smaller number but that was our pension money.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
So people are starting to realize that they don't give a shit.
And of course the family Wallenberg they have investor it's the miniature version of BlackRock.
The smaller version of BlackRock investor.
The Wallenberg family of course invested in Northvolt.
And the head of the family what does he say in TV?
Well sometimes companies succeed and sometimes they fail.
Yeah.
This is not people.
I spoke to a great influencer in Sweden that's by the name of Ida the other day.
She interviewed me and she said those people don't see themselves as humans so they don't care
if they are posing a threat to humanity.
That's true.
All right Bobo beautifully put.
Steve in the last few questions we've got 10 more minutes Bobo we'll let you go to bed.
And Celia thank you so much for organizing this.
Steven over to you and then we'll go to Tom Rodman video.
Yeah.
Meeting for those with the time.
So Bobo we've been looking so I don't want to mess this presentation.
Up by things I say but we've been looking for some time for someone to.
So we formed this group or I formed this group to with I didn't realize at the time but I came to
realize that the reason I formed it and we got all these different speakers from different
backgrounds was that we needed to understand what had happened in 2020 and what is still happening
now.
And there was no chance we were ever going to do that if we didn't speak to as many different
people as possible because that's how we understand things as human beings.
I now realize so I didn't know that when I formed the group but I knew that I had to do it.
So I can tell you about that another time because I don't want to miss.
I don't want to make this that's about me but listening to you talking to in answer to Peter
Huguet's question you clearly articulated a strategy in your mind and I don't understand
how you've managed it really.
So one of the problems has been that we I felt that we've been getting closer and closer to
the truth you know obviously we'll never achieve the truth because we're mere human beings but
but we can get closer and closer and I think we're getting to the stage now where you know
three months ago my opinion about what was happening is happening hasn't changed much
from you know now my opinion about what is happening hasn't changed much from three months
ago or even six months ago but in 2020 and 2021 it was changing almost daily it was like you know
certainly weekly and you were struggling to kind of it's a bit like the Democrats you know in
America now when Trump hits the road running after four years of plotting against the Democrats
and whomever and they are overwhelmed by all these executive orders you know the Democrats
so actually they can't even answer one never mind all of them and that was the idea of course so
so I think that some that now things are settling down but the problem has been
I've been thinking we need someone who has an ability to articulate what has happened
and I think you may be the closest thing to that I'm not kind of trying to big you up it's just that
you like all of us you know we were playing roles in all this you know but we didn't really know
what was going on and when empires fall they fall because we don't understand why they fall and even
when they have fallen and so I just wonder whether you think in your mind because I sometimes
notice that you are very confident but you're justifiably confident because you kind of
war game everything in your mind you know you can't think of everything obviously
but we'll we'll try and help you in the future do you think yes do you think in the end that
you might be able to articulate the evil of what happened in 2020 and is continuing now
yes I think so yes because since I was a child I've had many special experiments
and I've always felt that there are many dimensions and that what we are experienced
what we are experiencing is all about the inside the inside is everything our perception is what
there is and I've also studied the bible and before Nicholas got ill I was very intensively
studying the bible for some reason I've worked in the spiritual business a little bit
I was very satisfied with having clients as a psychic medium and it wasn't very satisfying
for me because I didn't feel that my clients were often a little bit hysterical and I didn't feel
them I didn't always feel that I that they wanted what they needed
they wanted to relate to their guides they wanted to share they wanted to communicate with dead
people that I saw were clearly not able to communicate sometimes I saw dead people sitting
in their car totally confused you know there was no point of communicating with them and
I felt more and more that they have to understand something deeper and beyond the words of the bible
and I'm talking about the first books the genesis and I'm talking about also
the revelation there is a war mentioned
in the heavens and there is an uprising mentioned and beyond all those words
beyond those words that are colored by historical context and so on and people's
beliefs and all there is something happening that has to do with
with wrong groups wanting to be in charge absolutely and those wrong groups that want to be in charge
is clearly from the bible and I it's not actually actually it's not only the bible because we can
go back to Sumeria and their myths and we can also look in the book of Enoch that is a book
treasured by the jews you know so it's not a christian book I mean obviously the book of
Enoch the book of Enoch is from 300 years before Christ and in the book of Enoch this war is also
mentioned and in the Sumerian myths that is a couple of thousand years before the book of Enoch
this war is also mentioned and it's a war between species that created humanity and
and those are divided so one group wants us to have a free will and to explore and develop as
yeah as it's as we're supposed to and to be creative and to overcome our duality and to
overcome conflicts and to overcome fear as you were talking about earlier Charles and
and to overcome our spiritual weaknesses so one group of gods one group of creators want
the best for us and another group wants to need to
destroy us to erase us
yes that is my conclusion so um I would just want to say this Charles um so Bobo I think you're
uh you know you were described as I think in that book title as the worst internet
troller in Sweden yes but paradoxically or surprisingly maybe to some people anyway
that trolling is actually helping you in in in in your articulation of what we're up against and
what you described so well to to Peter Huger would you agree with that or not
yeah it was never for me as I said it was some kind of experimenting with discourses and narratives
and and uh how to make people
make people
I was interested in if I could create some kind of insecurity in very
statical views and perspectives because what's interesting is that and this is actually important
we have a possibility right now to make people turn their political and financial leaders
their backs
en masse
we can make millions billions of people turn their leaders and the system their back
and stretch their hands to one another that's all we have to do actually to move humanity forward
to make people be more solidaric in their everyday life yeah yes of course it's very
to feel solidarity with other human beings if all the while other human beings are creating
tensions between human beings in other words causing division so um but having said that
we don't agree with each other too much either I just wanted one last thing so do you think to
really understand something very difficult to understand but would would you do you do you
agree that it's possible that we have to have an intuitive understanding and a lot of people say
oh it's all about the logic um they say for example they say Trump who was wrong about this
and wrong about that you know and I say I say but it doesn't matter whether he was wrong about this
and that people want to believe him anyway people on our side you know want to believe him anyway
so they just go along with the feeling come on that's with the intuitive understanding
why would you interrupt there I don't understand I guess you've heard about oh time why are we
correct time okay because people have lives to live sorry but I will answer I will answer
brief briefly I guess you all know about the German old tale about a man that comes to a village
in Hamlen and as I recall it the people wants him to get rid of the rats right
but there's something I'm sorry I can't recall all of it but I heard it as a child and
they don't pay him as I recall it they don't pay him and he gets he gets vengeful so he uses his
technique to lure the children of the village away from the village and they never they are never
seen again the children are taken from their parents
a tone is used he's using a flute to do it it's the same principle as in Mozart's
opera the magic flute the magic flute it's a tone he uses a tone
and there are certain tones that can be used both to save people and to exterminate them
and I think that is very important with Trump that he is using the magic flute to do it
to evoke something in the people that is that is potentially very very dangerous
Carl Gustav Jung he spoke it before Hitler and he spoke about
the death of the German Emperor in the war and he spoke about the death of the German Emperor
Hitler and he spoke about
Wotan an old ancient Nordic god an aspect of Odin so he said the Nazis were going to evoke
something really terrible a shadow in the German people and there are large amounts of energy hidden
in ordinary people that the right flute can awake but what is interesting with Trump is that he's
also soothing comforting guiding and kind of amusing people so I think he's absolutely not
think he's a new Hitler I think he is using the flow I think he's using his flute in a very
interesting way but I think the last thing I will say is that this is not enough
we have to compensate in the states as well as in Europe and everywhere in the world we will have to
compensate the breakdown of the financial elite the breakdown of globalism the breakdown of all
this terrible stuff is not enough something has to be compensated in everyday life it's a new
cult as I said it's a new culture without central power needed and that is so we will have to
we will need many many flutes absolutely so that's brilliant all right thank you so much
thank you Bobo thank you Silvia thank you everybody thank you with the time we will be in touch
thank you everybody for being here bye bye thank you thank you