1 0:00:00 --> 0:00:09 Hello everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and today's 2 0:00:09 --> 0:00:13 discussion this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost over three years ago, almost four years 3 0:00:13 --> 0:00:17 ago with the desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health. 4 0:00:17 --> 0:00:21 Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower 5 0:00:21 --> 0:00:25 and activist his medical special is radiology. 6 0:00:25 --> 0:00:30 At this time we remember Ryan Ofulmik and we'll make an announcement about Ryan Ofulmik 7 0:00:30 --> 0:00:37 but he is currently unlawfully incarcerated by the German government in a German jail 8 0:00:37 --> 0:00:44 undergoing a German court show trial having been unlawfully kidnapped by the German government 9 0:00:44 --> 0:00:46 in October 2023. 10 0:00:46 --> 0:00:47 In Mexico. 11 0:00:47 --> 0:00:49 In Mexico. 12 0:00:49 --> 0:00:54 And it's an outrageous, it's an outrageous imposition and behaviour by the German government 13 0:00:54 --> 0:00:59 and everybody should be aware of it. 14 0:00:59 --> 0:01:03 And we've got lots to tell you more at the a bit later today. 15 0:01:03 --> 0:01:05 And it was indeed in Mexico. 16 0:01:05 --> 0:01:08 I'm Charles Covets the moderator of this group. 17 0:01:08 --> 0:01:16 I practice law for 20 years and for 14 years I've helped parents and lawyers to strategise 18 0:01:16 --> 0:01:20 remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice. 19 0:01:20 --> 0:01:26 I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company and mark my words industrial hemp is going 20 0:01:26 --> 0:01:33 to be a massive positive impact on humanity in the next few years to come. 21 0:01:33 --> 0:01:36 We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world. 22 0:01:36 --> 0:01:43 By the way Scott Sharer who Jerome is running the case in Wisconsin against Wisconsin Health 23 0:01:43 --> 0:01:49 for the murder of his daughter Grace Sharer is also in the Wisconsin legal system for 24 0:01:49 --> 0:01:54 what it's worth everybody and Scottish Fighting a wonderful fight has presented to this group before. 25 0:01:56 --> 0:02:00 Many of us thought in the past that vaccines were okay now many of us proudly say yes we 26 0:02:00 --> 0:02:07 are passionate anti-vaxxers and indeed I am a passionate anti-vaxxer and Dr Stanley Plotkin 27 0:02:07 --> 0:02:15 the so-called godfather of childhood vaccines in America has admitted in his deposition 28 0:02:15 --> 0:02:23 nine-hour deposition before Aaron Ciri lawyer that no vaccine ever has been properly tested 29 0:02:23 --> 0:02:29 for safety and efficacy. If this is your first time here welcome and feel free to introduce 30 0:02:29 --> 0:02:34 yourself in the chat. Most of us understand we're in the middle of world war three and that the 31 0:02:34 --> 0:02:38 medical science battle is only one of 12 battle fronts of this latest world war. 32 0:02:39 --> 0:02:46 Another is honesty and integrity in government a third is the propaganda war and the spiritual war 33 0:02:46 --> 0:02:51 is the fourth and there are another eight. There is no time to be tired we're five years into a 34 0:02:51 --> 0:02:58 seven-year war so look after your health and be up for the fight. Most of us understand the development 35 0:02:58 --> 0:03:04 of science and the science is never settled. This meeting runs for two and a half hours after which 36 0:03:04 --> 0:03:08 for those with the time Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting Tom puts the links into the 37 0:03:08 --> 0:03:13 chat if you're able to join. We will listen to our guest presenter Bobbo Sundgren from Sweden. 38 0:03:13 --> 0:03:22 Is it Bobbo or Bobbo? It's Bobbo. Bobbo good thank you. So we will listen to Bobbo Sundgren for as 39 0:03:22 --> 0:03:27 long as Bobbo wishes to speak and then we have quick questions and answers Stephen Frost via 40 0:03:27 --> 0:03:32 long established tradition asks the first questions for 15 minutes. This is a free 41 0:03:32 --> 0:03:37 speech environment with appropriate moderating free speech is crucially important in our fight 42 0:03:38 --> 0:03:44 to preserve our human freedoms. If you're offended by anything be offended we are lovingly not 43 0:03:44 --> 0:03:49 interested we reject the offence industry that requires nobody to say anything that may offend 44 0:03:49 --> 0:03:54 another. We similarly reject the traf- the triggering industry don't say anything you 45 0:03:54 --> 0:04:02 might trigger somebody we call BS. They are both the offence industry and triggering industry attacks 46 0:04:02 --> 0:04:08 on free speech designed to shut you up so you don't express your views so that governments get 47 0:04:08 --> 0:04:15 away with lies. We come with an attitude however of and perspective of love not fear. Fear is the 48 0:04:15 --> 0:04:21 opposite of love. Fear squashes you and enslaves you. Love on the other hand expands you and 49 0:04:21 --> 0:04:27 liberates you. These twice weekly meetings are not just talk fest an extraordinary range of 50 0:04:27 --> 0:04:32 actions and initiatives have been generated from linkages made by attendees in these meetings. 51 0:04:33 --> 0:04:37 If you have a solution or a product or links or resources that will help people put the details 52 0:04:37 --> 0:04:41 in the chat the meeting is recorded and is uploaded on the Rumble channel and now welcome 53 0:04:41 --> 0:04:47 to our guest presenter Bobo Sundgren and we thank you Bobo for giving us your time 54 0:04:47 --> 0:04:54 and sharing your story and for the purposes of the recording I will give you a little bit of 55 0:04:54 --> 0:05:02 background in your own words no in your own words you are a Swedish author ethnologist and 56 0:05:02 --> 0:05:08 activist known for your book How I became one of Sweden's worst internet trolls. 57 0:05:11 --> 0:05:15 Nicholas was born with a heart defect and underwent a liver transplant and he was jabbed 58 0:05:15 --> 0:05:23 with the COVID jabs and Bobo is going to tell us about his journey in vindicating and fighting 59 0:05:23 --> 0:05:32 back against Nicholas's case. He'll tell us about the prosecutor and today Bobo advocates for informed 60 0:05:32 --> 0:05:38 consent and medical accountability as do we in this call through various platforms including 61 0:05:38 --> 0:05:44 Substack and Facebook as well as through live lectures and public talks so welcome Bobo and 62 0:05:44 --> 0:05:49 thank you Stephen Frost again for creating this group and for organizing Bobo to be with our to 63 0:05:49 --> 0:05:57 have Bobo speak to us today and Stephen who helped us get Bobo today? Well Celia Farber and 64 0:05:57 --> 0:06:05 Lars Johansson. That's right very good all right so thank you Stephen welcome Bobo good to have you 65 0:06:05 --> 0:06:13 here and your story is a is a heart-wrenching one so over to you we're all yours and and look forward 66 0:06:13 --> 0:06:19 to hearing from you and discussing with you. Charles I just want to say that Bobo knows amongst 67 0:06:19 --> 0:06:29 other things about Olaf Palma's death assassination but also how Trump was elected in 2016 using I 68 0:06:29 --> 0:06:34 can't remember but he knows all about tech he's one of these extraordinary Swedes who kind of 69 0:06:36 --> 0:06:42 buck the system if you like which is you know everybody trusting that but Bobo 70 0:06:43 --> 0:06:49 knows a lot and so they've got a real problem now because they've got criminal investigation 71 0:06:49 --> 0:07:00 involving his 13 year old son who died in 2021 from memory sorry 2022 oh sorry 2022 all over 72 0:07:00 --> 0:07:07 to you let's we look forward to listening to you thank you so much for the introduction and 73 0:07:08 --> 0:07:15 thank you for having me it's an honor and I've been waiting for this longing for it 74 0:07:16 --> 0:07:23 because you have so much expertise and that is exactly what I need and have been needing through 75 0:07:23 --> 0:07:35 the process. Am I coming through? Yes Bobo we can hear you loud and clear. Good so 76 0:07:37 --> 0:07:49 Nikolas my son he was born 2008 with heart malformations in latin they are called truncus 77 0:07:49 --> 0:07:58 arteriosus and they're also called interrupted aortic arch of course I don't know so much about it 78 0:07:58 --> 0:08:13 but I know that the surgeon that did a fantastic job was Peter Jögin in Lund and he did this 79 0:08:13 --> 0:08:23 fantastic job three days after Nikolas was born in Halmstad in Sweden so it was a shock of course 80 0:08:23 --> 0:08:33 for us me and Nikolas mother and at the same time we felt very blessed that we were in Sweden 81 0:08:34 --> 0:08:40 and we were taken care of and Nikolas was taken care of by the best surgeons in the world 82 0:08:42 --> 0:08:52 we felt it in the air we saw them walking past us in the corridors they are often very tall 83 0:08:52 --> 0:09:01 and they looked like gods to us and they were in fact gods because they saved our son 84 0:09:03 --> 0:09:17 and we were so grateful for that six months more or less six seven months later Nikolas 85 0:09:17 --> 0:09:22 had his liver transplanted he started to get sick when he was 86 0:09:24 --> 0:09:33 maybe three months four months old and as the malformation of the heart was unexplained 87 0:09:34 --> 0:09:38 as the malformation of the heart was unexplained 88 0:09:41 --> 0:09:49 the liver problem was also unexplained they did send samples to Switzerland 89 0:09:49 --> 0:09:57 for a genetic research but they didn't find anything they didn't find any clue for anything 90 0:09:57 --> 0:10:01 for anything so it was a big mystery 91 0:10:04 --> 0:10:13 and of course we were shocked again and we practically lived at the hospital for 92 0:10:13 --> 0:10:22 Nikolas first year so we were conditioned to trust the health care and to trust certain 93 0:10:22 --> 0:10:32 figures there certain persons certain doctors certain nurses they followed Nikolas 94 0:10:33 --> 0:10:46 all through his life from he was a baby to to his death the same persons for example the nurse 95 0:10:47 --> 0:10:48 the nurse 96 0:10:51 --> 0:11:00 that we went to for blood samples all through his life was actually the nurse that gave him 97 0:11:00 --> 0:11:08 the second shot of Moderna's COVID vaccine sounds like I'm making it up but it's actually true 98 0:11:08 --> 0:11:18 and we had a feeling that she loved him she actually visited him when he was deadly sick 99 0:11:20 --> 0:11:32 and before I go into that I want to give a background from the summer of 2021 100 0:11:32 --> 0:11:46 summer of 2021 I am sure that all of us don't want to think about that year 101 0:11:49 --> 0:12:00 but all of us sitting here forces ourselves we forces we are forcing ourselves to think about 102 0:12:01 --> 0:12:06 that year and the year before and the years after and the horror 103 0:12:09 --> 0:12:12 that evil forces put upon us 104 0:12:14 --> 0:12:16 the summer of 2021 105 0:12:20 --> 0:12:20 my mother 106 0:12:24 --> 0:12:30 told me that I had to take the COVID vaccine in order to live with her at the summer place 107 0:12:30 --> 0:12:37 because we had nowhere else to go because our landlord that owned the house where we lived 108 0:12:38 --> 0:12:46 me and my children she wanted to live one month a year in her house and we had to go elsewhere 109 0:12:46 --> 0:12:56 that month and my mother's place her summer's place were well it was the only option so I 110 0:12:57 --> 0:13:04 although I was a little bit skeptical I took the COVID vaccine and it was Pfizer's community 111 0:13:07 --> 0:13:14 and this was six months after it was conditionally approved 112 0:13:16 --> 0:13:24 and in my naivety I thought that mainstream media should have alerted us 113 0:13:24 --> 0:13:27 if there was something really wrong with it 114 0:13:29 --> 0:13:32 I was a little bit skeptical all along 115 0:13:35 --> 0:13:46 I was skeptical when I saw people falling fainting in Wuhan and China falling on the street 116 0:13:46 --> 0:13:52 falling on the street I was skeptical when I read our government's recommendations 117 0:13:54 --> 0:14:04 our authorities recommendations to give morphine to our elderly at the elderly homes 118 0:14:05 --> 0:14:15 when they showed symptoms of COVID I felt very bad about that and this was springtime 2020 119 0:14:16 --> 0:14:26 so a year I had different skeptical thoughts about the whole pandemic show 120 0:14:29 --> 0:14:42 but I fell for my mother's fear and I took the COVID vaccine and in August the 23rd of August 121 0:14:42 --> 0:14:53 a nurse called us from the intestinal section at 122 0:14:56 --> 0:15:02 Drottning Silviats barnsjukhus it's Queen Silviats Children's Hospital in Göteborg Gothenburg 123 0:15:02 --> 0:15:11 and she called us and she said very cautiously well 124 0:15:12 --> 0:15:20 Niklas should have the COVID vaccine and we are wondering what time is good for you etc. 125 0:15:22 --> 0:15:25 and I was a little bit I was surprised 126 0:15:25 --> 0:15:31 but at the same time as I said I was very conditioned to trust the health care and the 127 0:15:31 --> 0:15:42 specific this specific section of the hospital so I immediately said well yes of course no problem 128 0:15:43 --> 0:15:51 I didn't hesitate and she as I later understood because of former reasons asked me 129 0:15:52 --> 0:15:54 because of former reasons asked me 130 0:15:56 --> 0:16:03 what does Niklas think about the vaccine I was a little bit surprised because I was conditioned 131 0:16:03 --> 0:16:11 also to always take full responsibility of his health care all this care you know and I said 132 0:16:11 --> 0:16:19 well I don't think he has a problem with that and in the back of my mind 133 0:16:20 --> 0:16:25 I had various thoughts and feelings one thought was 134 0:16:29 --> 0:16:40 that I don't want to go against the society because of the risk that they will question me as a parent 135 0:16:40 --> 0:16:50 and social authorities etc. would come at me and take my children away 136 0:16:51 --> 0:17:04 that sounds hysterical but it was a hysterical time the mass hysteria was very 137 0:17:04 --> 0:17:14 all around and in mainstream media in our newspapers in Sweden our 138 0:17:17 --> 0:17:26 ministers said stuff like we will find out who is not taking the vaccine and we will register them 139 0:17:27 --> 0:17:33 and we will find out what their habits are and why they are not taking the vaccine etc. 140 0:17:34 --> 0:17:40 so I felt a little bit scared to go against society but it was also it was mainly that I was 141 0:17:40 --> 0:17:48 conditioned to trust the health care and I was thinking why should I read on the internet 142 0:17:49 --> 0:17:56 I was thinking why should I read on the internet although that was my habit to read a lot on the 143 0:17:56 --> 0:18:04 internets in this issue I was thinking why should I trust some weirdos on the internet 144 0:18:05 --> 0:18:13 instead of the health care and the personnel the doctors and nurses that saved my son when he was 145 0:18:13 --> 0:18:27 a baby also Nicholas had his humograph replaced when he was 11 years old 2019 in August 146 0:18:31 --> 0:18:36 some more background what I didn't know 147 0:18:36 --> 0:18:47 was that already in July the 9th of July the World Health Organization 148 0:18:49 --> 0:18:59 gave directions to health care all over the world to warn about myocarditis and pericarditis 149 0:18:59 --> 0:19:03 pericarditis 150 0:19:04 --> 0:19:14 as a adverse event from the COVID vaccines the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna 151 0:19:15 --> 0:19:17 but we were not warned at all 152 0:19:20 --> 0:19:22 so there were no informed consent 153 0:19:22 --> 0:19:23 and 154 0:19:29 --> 0:19:38 the second thing is that they gave me Moderna's COVID vaccine that had that I've understood have 155 0:19:38 --> 0:19:48 more mRNA molecules in it this kind of synthetic replicants of mRNA molecules in it 156 0:19:48 --> 0:19:57 the Moderna is more concentrated and the people's the Sweden's public health agency 157 0:19:58 --> 0:20:07 actually stopped Moderna's COVID vaccine for everybody born 1991 and later the 6th of October 158 0:20:07 --> 0:20:14 the 4th of October the Swedish public health agency gave a press release 159 0:20:16 --> 0:20:23 of the Moderna vaccine and the first shot was taken on the 6th of September 2021 160 0:20:24 --> 0:20:33 and the second one the 4th of October the 4th of October the Swedish public health agency 161 0:20:33 --> 0:20:41 the Swedish public health agency gave a press release that stated that children should only have 162 0:20:41 --> 0:20:48 Pfizer's COVID vaccine this was totally ignored by Queen Silvia's children's hospital 163 0:20:50 --> 0:21:00 as well as they didn't give any chance for an informed consent and they did not do an 164 0:21:00 --> 0:21:10 individual assessment as the Swedish Pediatric Society urged them to do in their recommendation 165 0:21:12 --> 0:21:23 the Swedish Pediatric Society was springtime 2021 against giving COVID vaccine to children 166 0:21:23 --> 0:21:30 but they changed their mind about specific groups among them transplanted children 167 0:21:30 --> 0:21:39 from 12 years up during the summer and that's why they called us I learned this later 168 0:21:41 --> 0:21:47 that's why the hospital called us because of the decision from both Swedish Pediatric Society and 169 0:21:47 --> 0:21:54 the Swedish public health agency to change the recommendation for certain groups 12 years and up 170 0:22:00 --> 0:22:06 it really affects me to talk about it because I can feel that you are listening 171 0:22:07 --> 0:22:12 and I can feel your anger and I can feel that you know so much about this 172 0:22:13 --> 0:22:20 you're an audience that I've never had and it really affects me 173 0:22:25 --> 0:22:32 I get really really angry talking about it could I just ask you one thing 174 0:22:32 --> 0:22:41 yes so your son so the the recommendation from the Swedish Pediatric Society or whatever the name was 175 0:22:41 --> 0:22:52 was that 12 and above but your son wasn't 12 or above yes he was 13 years old oh sorry he was 13 176 0:22:52 --> 0:23:03 yes okay yes yes okay and what they should have done for example was to talk to his liver doctor 177 0:23:03 --> 0:23:13 to his liver doctor Robert Salman and his heart doctors they did not do that there are no evidence 178 0:23:13 --> 0:23:24 for that in the journals and I have spoken to the chief of the section Nils Ekvall in May 2022 179 0:23:24 --> 0:23:29 a couple of months after Nicola's death and he said to me 180 0:23:31 --> 0:23:36 that they read the children's journals and looked for contra 181 0:23:38 --> 0:23:43 what was his word again contraindications for the COVID vaccine 182 0:23:45 --> 0:23:51 what kind of contraindication could it be I asked him well actually 183 0:23:52 --> 0:23:54 nothing he said 184 0:23:58 --> 0:24:05 I don't feel so intelligent especially as I let this monster into my son 185 0:24:07 --> 0:24:14 but I have moments of a clear view so I asked him 186 0:24:14 --> 0:24:23 about allergy allergy from the COVID vaccine well we only know about allergy after the first shot 187 0:24:24 --> 0:24:34 after the first shot so why did you tell me I asked him that you looked for contraindications 188 0:24:34 --> 0:24:43 in the journals was that simply a formality and he said yes 189 0:24:45 --> 0:24:46 it was 190 0:24:48 --> 0:24:54 then in May 2022 a couple of months after Nicola's death 191 0:24:55 --> 0:25:01 then in May 2022 a couple of months after Nicola's death 192 0:25:02 --> 0:25:06 where after that call that I understood that I have to go to war 193 0:25:11 --> 0:25:19 my suspicions about the COVID vaccine causing Nicola's illness started at the hospital 194 0:25:19 --> 0:25:29 and now I will go into why he got sick how he how he got sick two months after his second shot 195 0:25:31 --> 0:25:35 he got the chills and a fever 196 0:25:37 --> 0:25:46 it was a Saturday we had a nice taco dinner it's very typical Swedish thing to have on a Saturday 197 0:25:49 --> 0:25:59 probably in your countries as well and we had a really good time this was the 4th of December so 198 0:26:01 --> 0:26:12 I brought home a tree a Christmas tree that afternoon and the children decorated it 199 0:26:12 --> 0:26:20 and it was after dinner we were dancing around a little bit being a little bit silly 200 0:26:21 --> 0:26:32 and all of the sudden I held Nicola's head in my hands like this looking him looking him in the eyes 201 0:26:32 --> 0:26:37 and all of a sudden I said you are a little bit thin 202 0:26:37 --> 0:26:39 you are a little bit thin 203 0:26:43 --> 0:26:47 and his younger sibling said yes mother is say 204 0:26:50 --> 0:26:59 mother said he is a little bit thin as well and then he went and then I said maybe you should 205 0:26:59 --> 0:27:06 eat a little bit more and then he ate a little bit more because he was very loyal kind trusting 206 0:27:06 --> 0:27:16 you know he was a very kind boy very very he had integrity and he was courageous but he was also 207 0:27:16 --> 0:27:25 very kind and he loved his family a lot so he ate a little bit more and then he went to brush his 208 0:27:25 --> 0:27:31 teeth and then he went to bed obviously it was ridiculous that they asked him to eat a little 209 0:27:31 --> 0:27:41 bit more you know but yeah anyway I did and he went to bed and he got the chills all of the sudden 210 0:27:41 --> 0:27:49 I heard him shivering from the other side of the corridor in our house and I went there 211 0:27:51 --> 0:28:00 and he had he was shivering and he had fever and I gave him some medication to bring fever down 212 0:28:01 --> 0:28:10 and then he after an hour or so he vomited and I asked the children if there were if there were 213 0:28:11 --> 0:28:24 some disease like norovirus on the school and they confirmed that and he fell asleep 214 0:28:24 --> 0:28:30 and actually I was watching him you know as we do as parents 215 0:28:32 --> 0:28:38 when he fell when he was asleep I was looking after him a little bit looking at him 216 0:28:40 --> 0:28:47 and I was in my head I had this voice oh what am I thinking here that he's going to die 217 0:28:47 --> 0:28:48 that he's going to die 218 0:28:51 --> 0:28:58 oh I'm so silly just looking at him like that you know 219 0:29:00 --> 0:29:05 he's not going to he's he's okay I was thinking you know and 220 0:29:05 --> 0:29:08 um 221 0:29:08 --> 0:29:12 he didn't vomited anything more that night he 222 0:29:14 --> 0:29:23 had a fever the next day as well and he vomited a lot the second night but I was my stomach started 223 0:29:23 --> 0:29:30 to be a little bit upset so I was thinking okay now it's my turn now I get it the norovirus is 224 0:29:30 --> 0:29:40 coming to me as well and so I was thinking all I was thinking the norovirus straight through it you know and 225 0:29:44 --> 0:29:52 he ate a little bit of yogurt and drank a little bit water and stuff like that and he was sleeping 226 0:29:52 --> 0:30:01 a lot and the second night he was vomiting a lot and the third the day after he was not vomiting 227 0:30:01 --> 0:30:08 anymore and his fever went a little bit down and the third night he his fever was okay but he 228 0:30:08 --> 0:30:17 started to ache a lot he cried during night time he had he was aching his body was aching 229 0:30:18 --> 0:30:27 uh I was thinking yeah it's a little bit unusual for him but probably this is what you can expect 230 0:30:27 --> 0:30:32 after fever the day the third day 231 0:30:35 --> 0:30:42 on the afternoon he was sitting in the sofa watching tv he wanted to have some french fries 232 0:30:42 --> 0:30:46 I guess for the salt and 233 0:30:49 --> 0:30:56 he watched tv and it was only me and him and all of the sudden 234 0:31:00 --> 0:31:04 he says to me I cannot feel my legs 235 0:31:12 --> 0:31:20 and I was terrified and I called for an ambulance and they were a little bit difficult because of 236 0:31:20 --> 0:31:29 the covid had he has he had covid etc and then they came with an ambulance and in the ambulance 237 0:31:30 --> 0:31:35 I asked the nurse what do you think this is probably an infection she said I didn't know 238 0:31:36 --> 0:31:45 what to think about it for me an infection could be anything I wasn't thinking about bacteria but 239 0:31:48 --> 0:31:49 at the hospital 240 0:31:54 --> 0:32:03 they found out that he had sepsis and he had a fever and he had a fever and he had a fever and 241 0:32:04 --> 0:32:04 sepsis 242 0:32:07 --> 0:32:15 and they found out that he had an infection a bacterial infection in the heart in in his 243 0:32:17 --> 0:32:26 homograft as well as maybe other places but they gave him antibiotics for a week and then that 244 0:32:26 --> 0:32:31 bacteria still were there and it moved around and 245 0:32:33 --> 0:32:40 it got dangerous and they decided to do surgery on him open heart surgery 246 0:32:42 --> 0:32:42 and 247 0:32:43 --> 0:32:44 and 248 0:32:50 --> 0:32:55 after the decision I wasn't there I was at home because at 249 0:32:58 --> 0:32:59 at the hospital 250 0:33:02 --> 0:33:05 we switched all the we switched me and his mother we switched 251 0:33:06 --> 0:33:14 so one was there and the other at home or later on a place close to the hospital where we could 252 0:33:14 --> 0:33:22 live etc and at the intensive care we could only and much more sorry there are countless 253 0:33:22 --> 0:33:28 options to choose from thing trick can completely change the way you watch tv especially 254 0:33:29 --> 0:33:29 especially 255 0:33:33 --> 0:33:34 so anyway 256 0:33:41 --> 0:33:49 your wife and you were taking we were switching and he called me 257 0:33:49 --> 0:33:57 Nicholas his mother helped him to call me and he was telling me that he was going to surgery 258 0:34:03 --> 0:34:14 I was shocked and I felt a big way on my shoulders and I felt very very sad that this fantastic 259 0:34:14 --> 0:34:20 work that Peter Jögin had done on his heart was going to be destroyed 260 0:34:22 --> 0:34:29 and also the work that the doctors had done 2019 that everything would go to waste 261 0:34:35 --> 0:34:35 and 262 0:34:35 --> 0:34:35 and 263 0:34:39 --> 0:34:46 he comforted me and said I love you dad he he sounded very calm 264 0:34:50 --> 0:34:57 and I sounded like I do now I was trying to hold back my tears and I said to him I love you and 265 0:34:57 --> 0:35:07 and then he went through a 20 hour long surgery 20 hours 266 0:35:09 --> 0:35:18 and I was calling all the time and asking how he did and so on and after he woke up again I 267 0:35:18 --> 0:35:28 asked him about the chess the chess match that we had before at the hospital I wanted to see if he 268 0:35:28 --> 0:35:38 could he if he could use his mind and I asked him do you remember who won and he took his right hand 269 0:35:39 --> 0:35:46 and pointed at himself because he won you know and 270 0:35:51 --> 0:36:02 then I felt good that he had his mind intact but that was not the whole story he had 271 0:36:03 --> 0:36:03 he had 272 0:36:08 --> 0:36:17 his liver failed his kidneys failed and he had had and he had a stroke from this those 20 hours 273 0:36:20 --> 0:36:24 so he couldn't move his left arm and left leg 274 0:36:24 --> 0:36:38 and we noticed that after a day or so and I started to train him immediately to move his 275 0:36:41 --> 0:36:44 left hand and left foot 276 0:36:44 --> 0:36:46 foot 277 0:36:50 --> 0:36:56 but the doctors were not very optimistic the neurologist 278 0:36:58 --> 0:37:08 looked a little bit weird haven't you been told the situation when we asked her about school and 279 0:37:08 --> 0:37:12 how we would come back you know 280 0:37:14 --> 0:37:21 are you not briefed with the situation she said okay they acted very strange and nervous all the 281 0:37:21 --> 0:37:26 time I can tell you you know I think you should note I think you would have noticed that as well 282 0:37:26 --> 0:37:34 as you are doctors and I had some experience from doctors at that time and they were not acting 283 0:37:34 --> 0:37:46 normal the way they were nervous all the time all through the 68 days of martyrdom that my son went 284 0:37:46 --> 0:37:57 through at the hospital 68 days and it had all and it had only started with a stroke 285 0:37:58 --> 0:38:07 I tried to keep a positive mind and I wanted to surround Nicholas with positive thoughts 286 0:38:08 --> 0:38:19 I wanted I acted very calmly I saw to I saw to it that I had sleep at nights that I ate 287 0:38:19 --> 0:38:28 that I ate so I was able to act calmly around the nurses some of the nurses were were very 288 0:38:28 --> 0:38:36 empathetic and good and some of the nurses acted very strange some of the doctors were more empathetic 289 0:38:36 --> 0:38:49 than other as always so nothing strange with that but for some reason he didn't get 290 0:38:49 --> 0:39:00 better I mean the infection were there they said they told us the infection must still be there 291 0:39:00 --> 0:39:11 somewhere because the fever went up and down and the status of the infection the effect of 292 0:39:12 --> 0:39:23 they measured the effect of the infection I haven't looked up that word but I'm sure you 293 0:39:23 --> 0:39:32 know what I'm talking about so the figures told them that he had an infection and they opened up 294 0:39:32 --> 0:39:34 his chest again 295 0:39:36 --> 0:39:48 for a VAC a pump removing impurity from the from the heart 296 0:39:50 --> 0:39:56 and he had that so he was open he had this he had his chest open 297 0:39:56 --> 0:40:02 and he sat in a wheelchair for a couple of hours sometimes and 298 0:40:05 --> 0:40:12 I want to illustrate his character and personality with some episodes some occasions from the 299 0:40:12 --> 0:40:20 hospital because I think it's important I feel that it's important for me to 300 0:40:21 --> 0:40:30 to describe his personality because it contrasts to his killers 301 0:40:33 --> 0:40:33 so 302 0:40:37 --> 0:40:41 he is the opposite of his killers 303 0:40:41 --> 0:40:55 and what I mean by that is that he was rarely upset but when he was upset it was often 304 0:40:59 --> 0:41:01 a moral indignation 305 0:41:01 --> 0:41:09 and at this time the nurses were occupied with some nonsense 306 0:41:10 --> 0:41:16 and they could only they could only move him from the wheelchair to the bed they told me if they 307 0:41:16 --> 0:41:23 were two and the other nurse she was doing some bullshit you know moving papers around doing 308 0:41:23 --> 0:41:33 you know moving papers around doing some kind of work that she obviously didn't have to do exactly 309 0:41:33 --> 0:41:40 them instead of helping him because he got more and more sore and he asked again and again for 310 0:41:40 --> 0:41:48 them to move him to the bed because he was in pain and all of the sudden and I told them as well 311 0:41:48 --> 0:41:55 you well you have to move but I actually I was I was on my way to tell them when he slammed his 312 0:41:55 --> 0:42:08 fist in the wheelchair and he said you are slow and I could hear what he meant you are impure 313 0:42:11 --> 0:42:15 and they moved him to the bed 314 0:42:15 --> 0:42:27 he was slowly rehabilitating he could move his left foot and left arm more and more he had a 315 0:42:27 --> 0:42:39 Harry Potter is it called wand yes he had this Harry Potter wand and he was moving it I gave it 316 0:42:39 --> 0:42:46 I gave it to him at his birthday just as a fun thing to give him besides the other presents 317 0:42:46 --> 0:42:52 because obviously he was 13 years old but it was a fun thing to give him and and I gave it and I 318 0:42:52 --> 0:42:58 brought it to the hospital and he used it in his training and he more and more could do the 319 0:43:00 --> 0:43:04 movements with his left hand and 320 0:43:04 --> 0:43:04 and 321 0:43:08 --> 0:43:19 yeah I have a I have a photo of him by the way here this was is this can you see this no 322 0:43:21 --> 0:43:23 this is his last summer 323 0:43:23 --> 0:43:23 there 324 0:43:28 --> 0:43:39 a very positive boy a very he was always focusing focusing on good stuff 325 0:43:40 --> 0:43:48 and being very kind and enjoying to follow sports follow soccer he was 326 0:43:48 --> 0:43:56 uh yeah he was also good at soccer he was very talented actually and 327 0:44:00 --> 0:44:08 he was talented with balls all all kind of sports with balls he was good at it and 328 0:44:08 --> 0:44:09 um 329 0:44:13 --> 0:44:22 there was one concern because one of the cardiologists the pediatric cardiologists 330 0:44:22 --> 0:44:28 she came to me in or already after the first operation she came to me and said 331 0:44:28 --> 0:44:37 there is a concern because we have moved the anteria and uh uh there seem to be uh it's a 332 0:44:37 --> 0:44:43 little bit too narrow uh where they sue it you know so it it's a little bit it's a risk for uh 333 0:44:44 --> 0:44:54 uh uh a cardiac arrest there but they follow they followed it up and they uh 334 0:44:56 --> 0:45:06 it looked good the troponin was at a good level level uh etc and I actually asked a doctor 335 0:45:07 --> 0:45:13 uh the same day as his younger sibling was there visiting outside the window because they didn't 336 0:45:13 --> 0:45:21 allow uh children there so the his younger sibling had to uh speak to him from the other side of the 337 0:45:21 --> 0:45:30 window and he was happy for that and uh I asked the doctor how is the troponin looking and he 338 0:45:30 --> 0:45:38 said it's looking good and I put my chin to his chin like or his more or less his 339 0:45:41 --> 0:45:51 head like this and I said goodbye to him and his mother took over that day and uh the next 340 0:45:52 --> 0:45:59 the evening he video called me and his younger sibling after the place where we stayed at the 341 0:45:59 --> 0:46:06 nights we stayed at the place Ronald McDonald house close to the hospital uh I was sleeping 342 0:46:06 --> 0:46:14 there and he video called us and uh his younger sibling was showing the place like in MTV style 343 0:46:14 --> 0:46:23 this is my crib you know and uh and he was uh happy for that but he got a little bit tired and 344 0:46:23 --> 0:46:31 he said I'm going to rest now and the next day me and his younger sibling ate some 345 0:46:32 --> 0:46:40 Thai food at a place near the hospital and then we went to uh say hello to him through the window 346 0:46:42 --> 0:46:50 because uh we knew where his room was and we didn't see him there and we didn't see anyone there 347 0:46:53 --> 0:47:03 and then we went to meet his mother and then the chief physician called the chief physician 348 0:47:03 --> 0:47:12 Anders called me it uh yeah it has happened something uh your son had a cardiac arrest and 349 0:47:12 --> 0:47:15 and 350 0:47:18 --> 0:47:24 and his it's not looking good yes and 351 0:47:27 --> 0:47:37 then he underwent surgery again and a stent was installed that operation I think took maybe 352 0:47:38 --> 0:47:48 uh nine hours or so but the the physicians called us parents and wanted to speak to us 353 0:47:48 --> 0:47:58 after the surgery and they told us about this but they didn't tell us a problem a big problem and 354 0:47:58 --> 0:48:05 that was that he had bad circulation for 50 minutes before they could bring him in the 355 0:48:06 --> 0:48:15 uh heart and lung machine so he got uh very bad brain damages from this 356 0:48:17 --> 0:48:21 and um severe brain damages 357 0:48:24 --> 0:48:31 and um tried to cool him down while he was sleeping while he was still sleeping 358 0:48:32 --> 0:48:43 and then he uh wake woke up and I was there again that's the first time and he looked at me 359 0:48:45 --> 0:48:51 when he woke up and then Anders the chief physician entered the room 360 0:48:53 --> 0:49:00 he had a very dark voice like this well he was also very tall the Swedish viking 361 0:49:00 --> 0:49:05 you might say well it doesn't look good he said 362 0:49:07 --> 0:49:17 and I was kind of immediately irritated on him and I was like I saw that Nikolas moved his eyes 363 0:49:17 --> 0:49:25 to the voice so that gave me an immediate immediate thought that well he's not unaware 364 0:49:25 --> 0:49:26 anyway he said he's aware 365 0:49:29 --> 0:49:39 he was not brain dead the brain waves were not uh flat he had no uh he had he didn't have the 366 0:49:39 --> 0:49:51 doll's eye syndrome or anything like that he simply didn't talk and he didn't move voluntarily 367 0:49:51 --> 0:50:02 anymore but I started to read about the brain and how plastic it is and I kept my hope to train him 368 0:50:04 --> 0:50:12 and bring him back 369 0:50:15 --> 0:50:16 and uh 370 0:50:22 --> 0:50:32 it was a very hard struggle the neurologists noticed what I noticed that he could move on 371 0:50:32 --> 0:50:39 command a little bit sometimes he could shake their hands sometimes when they asked for it 372 0:50:39 --> 0:50:44 and sometimes he didn't shake their hands when they asked for it well that's natural I don't 373 0:50:44 --> 0:50:52 I didn't think it was strange and I filmed him and I video I videotaped him while giving him 374 0:50:52 --> 0:51:00 instruction for example to chew on his ventilator tube and he chewed when I asked him to do it 375 0:51:01 --> 0:51:13 for example uh Anders again well I have to talk to you well every day almost every day 376 0:51:13 --> 0:51:20 he came to me and said I have to talk to you and he took me to a room and well it doesn't look good 377 0:51:22 --> 0:51:30 he will not have a worthy life okay but are you sure uh do we know 378 0:51:32 --> 0:51:40 his chances to move again etc well well he didn't believe it would be so good but uh 379 0:51:43 --> 0:51:48 um and he didn't believe Niklas could breathe without the ventilator 380 0:51:50 --> 0:51:56 no I don't think he will be able to do it and then I was there when he removed the ventilator 381 0:51:57 --> 0:52:04 and Niklas was breathing perfectly so it was no problem without the ventilator 382 0:52:06 --> 0:52:07 and um 383 0:52:07 --> 0:52:17 um they called to a meeting me and his mother they wanted to tell us that they had decided 384 0:52:17 --> 0:52:24 to not give him the ventilator back if he had a crisis to not give him heart surgery again and not 385 0:52:24 --> 0:52:31 to and and uh to not start his heart again if it stopped 386 0:52:31 --> 0:52:40 and uh they had the right to to those decisions I read I didn't have a lawyer or anything 387 0:52:41 --> 0:52:55 I read about it that they had this right and um I was uh I was filing a report to the IVO it's 388 0:52:55 --> 0:53:02 uh an authority in Sweden where you can file reports on health care I filed a report because 389 0:53:02 --> 0:53:09 I was angry and I was upset that uh they hadn't recognized this risk for cardiac arrest more 390 0:53:11 --> 0:53:20 I know that this uh pediatric cardiologist Marie Bartos that I spoke about she warned them every 391 0:53:21 --> 0:53:26 conference about it but they were a little bit chauvinistic and didn't believe 392 0:53:26 --> 0:53:30 that the risk was so big so I filed a report on that 393 0:53:32 --> 0:53:37 and they and they I think they saw me as an enemy by then 394 0:53:40 --> 0:53:44 anyway I had to I my my uh 395 0:53:46 --> 0:53:50 behavior was very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very 396 0:53:50 --> 0:53:59 measured as Stephen uh taught me to say he he taught me that word measured measured so my my 397 0:53:59 --> 0:54:05 behavior was measured uh but I think they were beginning to see me as an enemy 398 0:54:07 --> 0:54:16 which I didn't understand why because I thought they wanted I I thought before this I thought 399 0:54:16 --> 0:54:23 they would do anything to save a child but they didn't want to save him they didn't want 400 0:54:23 --> 0:54:28 they didn't believe in him they wanted him to die 401 0:54:32 --> 0:54:44 which totally traumatized me but I kept struggling for example I was struggling for them to 402 0:54:44 --> 0:54:52 suction the mucus they didn't want it in the beginning when they moved him to the medicine 403 0:54:52 --> 0:55:00 section from the intensive care there was an American doctor there she had an American accent 404 0:55:02 --> 0:55:05 and she said with this American accent 405 0:55:05 --> 0:55:15 uh we will not have any monitoring over oxygen and pulse 406 0:55:17 --> 0:55:25 why I said yes we will I said yes we will have that okay she said okay almost immediately 407 0:55:26 --> 0:55:33 she didn't argue with me so he had his oxygen and pulse was monitored of course 408 0:55:33 --> 0:55:38 I was very shocked when she said that 409 0:55:40 --> 0:55:41 uh 410 0:55:45 --> 0:55:53 there was some progress I think because I was very happy when I moved him from the wheelchair 411 0:55:53 --> 0:56:01 to the bed and he was bare and I was uh kind of asking him uh well I I will get a blanket for you 412 0:56:01 --> 0:56:08 soon Nikolas is that okay and a couple of days before that I actually told him you will speak 413 0:56:08 --> 0:56:25 again and and the first thing you will say is ah I told him that and actually when I asked him 414 0:56:26 --> 0:56:30 I would get the blanket for you is that okay it came from him ah 415 0:56:33 --> 0:56:41 he answered me I was shocked it was a triumph I was so proud as I always were 416 0:56:43 --> 0:56:52 over him and I looked at the nurse and she was also American isn't that strange an American 417 0:56:52 --> 0:57:00 doctor and an American nurse all of a sudden from nowhere and I looked at the American nurse 418 0:57:02 --> 0:57:09 I'm telling you this from their accents you know they had American accents so uh I was looking at 419 0:57:09 --> 0:57:22 the American nurse very proud you know and I was expecting her to also smile back noticing this but 420 0:57:22 --> 0:57:31 she was uh in another mental place because she immediately asked me so there is zero 421 0:57:32 --> 0:57:49 this zero zero ventilator zero HLR and zero surgery here she was asking me to confirm 422 0:57:50 --> 0:57:59 that they didn't want to save his life if he had a crisis she was at another place mentally 423 0:58:02 --> 0:58:10 I was like shocked and I was like yeah yes yeah another time I was upset I didn't keep my temper 424 0:58:10 --> 0:58:18 all the time one time I took a nurse aside because she was talking about everything that 425 0:58:18 --> 0:58:25 Nicholas did as reflexes well it's a reflex and then there's a here's another reflex and 426 0:58:25 --> 0:58:32 blah blah blah and I took her aside and I said I don't want you to share your opinions about 427 0:58:32 --> 0:58:38 reflexes I'm not interested I don't want to hear anything more about reflexes 428 0:58:39 --> 0:58:47 uh she looked at me like I was yeah nothing you know and uh 429 0:58:49 --> 0:58:58 there was some kind there was some other strange stuff but uh I'm moving forward here to uh 430 0:58:58 --> 0:58:59 to uh 431 0:59:03 --> 0:59:11 actually that one day they said we're going to remove the antibiotics to see if the infection 432 0:59:11 --> 0:59:20 is still there and before that the days before that they did some strange things for example 433 0:59:20 --> 0:59:31 well his mother noticed as she had been working in care she noticed that this specially designed 434 0:59:31 --> 0:59:40 this special bed he had it was like an inflatable bed they had put it on the lowest degree of air 435 0:59:42 --> 0:59:47 so it was very very soft at the same time they gave him 436 0:59:47 --> 0:59:52 sedatives of course but they also gave him clonidine 437 0:59:54 --> 1:00:00 I don't know if that's the English word but uh it's relaxing the muscles 438 1:00:01 --> 1:00:09 they also gave him they also doubled his dose of uh 439 1:00:10 --> 1:00:12 of uh 440 1:00:15 --> 1:00:23 nurture do you call it nurture like his food they doubled his dose of food that he 441 1:00:25 --> 1:00:28 nutrition they doubled his nutrition 442 1:00:28 --> 1:00:37 and uh the night after they doubled it he I woke up because at the medic medicine 443 1:00:37 --> 1:00:44 section I was allowed to sleep in the same room so uh I was I woke up because 444 1:00:45 --> 1:00:54 he vomited Nicholas vomited a lot and I could hear the nurses talking to each other 445 1:00:54 --> 1:01:02 should we wake the father up no fuck him they said in that harsh language 446 1:01:04 --> 1:01:15 and I woke up and I was trying to assist assisting them a little bit and I could see that his vomit 447 1:01:16 --> 1:01:25 and I could see that his vomit came down through his yeah it went down his lungs yeah 448 1:01:36 --> 1:01:43 Bobo you I don't know whether you've done it no I was just coughing so I muted myself I'm back 449 1:01:44 --> 1:01:45 so anyway 450 1:01:48 --> 1:01:57 I could see that his nutrition went down his lungs and a couple days later as I said they 451 1:01:57 --> 1:02:09 took away the antibiotics and obviously he started to cough a lot and they decided that he was deadly 452 1:02:09 --> 1:02:18 sick his eyes were clear I can show you pictures there are pictures in the biggest 453 1:02:18 --> 1:02:26 newspaper of Sweden I can tell you why but I made the biggest newspaper of Sweden interview me and 454 1:02:26 --> 1:02:32 it was a totally unfiltered interview which is fantastic but I will tell you about it later 455 1:02:32 --> 1:02:41 but anyway his eyes were clear but they told him that the infection got the best of him and that 456 1:02:41 --> 1:02:49 he was dying and it was the head of the intensive care that all of the sudden came into the room 457 1:02:49 --> 1:02:55 and he was very energetic filled with energy like he just had a fantastic meal you know 458 1:02:55 --> 1:03:04 meal you know and he was like hello I'm the head of intensive care we haven't met yes blah blah blah 459 1:03:04 --> 1:03:13 and we can shake hands there's no restrictions anymore from today he sounded like 460 1:03:15 --> 1:03:24 like he run a circus more than he run intensive care and all of the sudden he changed mode 461 1:03:25 --> 1:03:31 he changed to a very serious mode and he said well he's very very sick now 462 1:03:33 --> 1:03:38 okay I was thinking he's not more sick now than 463 1:03:41 --> 1:03:51 a couple of weeks ago no so they called us to a meeting and they told me that he and me and his 464 1:03:51 --> 1:03:59 mother they were like 17 doctors there 17 doctors more or less in this meeting and they told him 465 1:03:59 --> 1:04:07 well he's he's deadly sick the infection is there somewhere we don't know where but it's there and 466 1:04:10 --> 1:04:14 we're going to remove the nutrition we're going to take away the nutrition 467 1:04:14 --> 1:04:19 and I was afraid that if I struggled 468 1:04:21 --> 1:04:32 I mean I had read that they had this right to take away treatment that they thought was prolonged 469 1:04:32 --> 1:04:37 prolonging their suffering but I also thought that if I 470 1:04:38 --> 1:04:45 prolonged this it would result in him dying from his mucus 471 1:04:46 --> 1:04:53 that his mucus would suffocate him because they didn't want to give him a ventilator 472 1:04:54 --> 1:05:04 so I didn't say anything and one of the doctors said is it because we are so many 473 1:05:05 --> 1:05:09 that you don't talk 474 1:05:13 --> 1:05:27 I was in a very intensive shock so I thought he was kind no nothing can 475 1:05:27 --> 1:05:37 can take away this pain I said I thought he was empathetic but afterwards I understood that he 476 1:05:37 --> 1:05:46 was enjoying the peer pressure the the idea of bullying anyway 477 1:05:46 --> 1:06:02 I haven't used alcohol or drugs for 12 years now and by 2022 it was nine years without alcohol and 478 1:06:02 --> 1:06:11 drugs so obviously when I started to hallucinate it wasn't because of drugs because namely what I 479 1:06:12 --> 1:06:19 did I was sitting in Nikola's room and I was watching the trees outside far away and all of 480 1:06:19 --> 1:06:33 the sudden a black arch were coming down from the sky moving like a an ufo over the trees a big black 481 1:06:36 --> 1:06:38 arch 482 1:06:38 --> 1:06:48 and I was thinking okay that's strange but I was in shock and 483 1:06:50 --> 1:06:58 a couple of days later Nikola's died it was half past 12 484 1:06:58 --> 1:07:11 the 13th of February I was the only relative there and they picked some very young nurses 485 1:07:12 --> 1:07:19 to give him inhalation in the beginning they were sectioning his mucus a little bit but 486 1:07:20 --> 1:07:26 to give him inhalation in the beginning they were sectioning his mucus a little bit but 487 1:07:29 --> 1:07:38 and I was sectioning it I saw at the monitor of oxygen and pulse that his brain was going 488 1:07:39 --> 1:07:45 but I still want and he had morphine and he was deep he was asleep deep 489 1:07:46 --> 1:07:53 deeply asleep and I but I still wanted to take away the mucus because it ran a very thick line 490 1:07:53 --> 1:08:02 of mucus from his nose from his nostril so I took this suction device and I helped him and I went 491 1:08:02 --> 1:08:10 to the bathroom and when I came out the nurse the nurses had locked the suction device 492 1:08:10 --> 1:08:11 the suction device 493 1:08:15 --> 1:08:24 and I asked the nurse are we not going to section anymore no no no no we're not we're not why 494 1:08:26 --> 1:08:31 yeah I don't know why I don't know why she said she was like 20 years old maybe 495 1:08:33 --> 1:08:39 I didn't want to act upset around Nikola's I wanted to to give him a peaceful environment 496 1:08:40 --> 1:08:50 but the aggression from my spine was intense so I had all of the sudden I was aching in my neck 497 1:08:50 --> 1:09:00 a lot and I there was some kind of massage pillow there and I took it and laid down 498 1:09:00 --> 1:09:07 lay down besides Nikola's bed and put the massage to my neck 499 1:09:09 --> 1:09:18 and I dissociated a little bit and I was thinking like yes Nikola's is going to sleep a little bit 500 1:09:19 --> 1:09:28 and I can take a small rest and I fell asleep and the nurse woke me up she was shaking me a 501 1:09:28 --> 1:09:35 little bit and she said now Nikola's just took his last breath 502 1:09:41 --> 1:09:50 I felt a little bit accused and shocked of course and I rushed up 503 1:09:50 --> 1:10:00 and I put my hand on his chest and Nikola's drew another deep breath and it reminded me of how he 504 1:10:01 --> 1:10:12 acted when we were swimming together and came up from the water and he pushed his chest out 505 1:10:13 --> 1:10:20 and I had my hand on it and the nurse the nurse replied 506 1:10:22 --> 1:10:25 oops I fooled daddy 507 1:10:29 --> 1:10:36 and this sounds like I'm making it up but it's I'm not I'm not making this up 508 1:10:37 --> 1:10:45 it's I'm not I'm not making this up and when I'm telling you this I'm very surprised that I'm 509 1:10:45 --> 1:10:52 not making this up that this actually happened but this happened and she flashed she had a 510 1:10:52 --> 1:11:01 flashlight and he took one more breath and then she shown the flashlight in his pupils and said 511 1:11:01 --> 1:11:04 no he's dead and 512 1:11:08 --> 1:11:09 I have described it 513 1:11:12 --> 1:11:20 I have described it thank you so much Sean I have described it as I as something pierced me like a 514 1:11:20 --> 1:11:30 sword or a or a spear pierced my heart from the back and I felt absolutely like garbage 515 1:11:32 --> 1:11:34 and I felt 516 1:11:36 --> 1:11:47 like I had the plague that I was an outcast that I was nothing that I was of zero value as a father 517 1:11:47 --> 1:11:47 here 518 1:11:58 --> 1:12:06 at the same time I had my suspicions all the way from the beginning at the hospital 519 1:12:07 --> 1:12:14 I asked a little bit about the vaccine because I started to google and I understood 520 1:12:15 --> 1:12:24 uh because Nicholas Young's sibling told me during Nicholas fevers Nicholas Young's sibling 521 1:12:24 --> 1:12:30 told me and he got this fever and he got this fever after the second shot of the COVID vaccine 522 1:12:30 --> 1:12:39 as well and you know they've stopped that vaccine now what did they but I didn't think more of it 523 1:12:39 --> 1:12:45 because I didn't relate his fever to the vaccine but at the hospital it came back to me and I 524 1:12:45 --> 1:12:52 started to google why they stopped the COVID vaccine and I didn't know I didn't even know if 525 1:12:52 --> 1:12:59 he had Moderna or Pfizer because they told me he will either have Moderna or Pfizer when they called 526 1:13:00 --> 1:13:10 for the vaccination so I a couple of days couple of days later after Nicholas death I went home 527 1:13:10 --> 1:13:20 and I looked at his vaccination card that he actually kept in a small bag sports like more 528 1:13:20 --> 1:13:28 a purse more or less that I gave him for his birthday and I looked at the card and I saw that 529 1:13:28 --> 1:13:39 it was Moderna and I uh this was after this was after his death but also before his death 530 1:13:40 --> 1:13:49 when I read about the COVID vaccine the mRNA vaccine could cause myocarditis etc. I asked the 531 1:13:49 --> 1:13:55 doctors is it possible that a myocarditis weakened his heart and made it 532 1:13:59 --> 1:14:08 and made this bacterial infection happen no no no that's totally and that's no that has nothing 533 1:14:08 --> 1:14:17 to do with that you know they said after his death I also spoke to Marie Bartos again and she said 534 1:14:17 --> 1:14:26 well if he would have if he had had a myocarditis he would have had pain but that was not true 535 1:14:27 --> 1:14:36 because I researched it and I looked it up that it is not necessarily painful so I 536 1:14:36 --> 1:14:49 uh as I said to you I spoke to the head of the section Nils Ekvall I spoke to him in May 2022 537 1:14:49 --> 1:14:56 and he told me all this bullshit about contraindications and stuff like that and 538 1:14:56 --> 1:15:04 I understood that there were no individual assessment and I started 539 1:15:05 --> 1:15:14 my actions to investigate this was looking a long time for some evidence medical evidence 540 1:15:15 --> 1:15:23 that there could be a weakening of the heart result from a myocarditis resulting in a bacterial 541 1:15:23 --> 1:15:30 endocarditis I didn't find enough information but this was my idea and 542 1:15:32 --> 1:15:40 it took all the way to January 2023 I got in in touch with a wonderful 543 1:15:42 --> 1:15:47 woman called her name is Sabrina and I started to 544 1:15:48 --> 1:15:57 uh meet her and talk to her and I went to Stockholm and together with her we went to 545 1:15:57 --> 1:16:07 the conference the pandemic strategies the conference called pandemic strategies in January 546 1:16:07 --> 1:16:16 2023 and I listened for example to a Sima Hottra and Ryan Cole and I spoke to them afterwards 547 1:16:17 --> 1:16:23 but actually it was when I listened to Arne Burkhardt professor Arne Burkhardt the famous 548 1:16:23 --> 1:16:32 pathologist that tragically died a couple of months after that actually it was when I listened to 549 1:16:32 --> 1:16:45 Arne Burkhardt and his findings from uh from covid vaccine victims because he did autopsies 550 1:16:45 --> 1:16:52 together with Sukharit Bhakti professor Sukharit Bhakti and him they did 70 551 1:16:53 --> 1:17:08 autopsies as you know of covid vaccine deaths and they found horrific stuff and I had to 552 1:17:08 --> 1:17:12 leave my place I said to Sabina 553 1:17:14 --> 1:17:22 uh I have to go I will sit a little bit longer from the stage 554 1:17:24 --> 1:17:30 and I went to another place and I was sitting in the back feeling very sick I felt like I wanted 555 1:17:30 --> 1:17:37 to vomit like like I wanted to throw up but I 556 1:17:41 --> 1:17:46 I decided to talk to Arne Burkhardt and I went down afterwards and I shook his hand 557 1:17:47 --> 1:17:55 and uh I see Malhotra and uh Ryan Cole was also there and we spoke about Nicholas and I presented 558 1:17:55 --> 1:18:04 the facts the medical evidence and uh all the medical facts more or less and uh there were 559 1:18:04 --> 1:18:10 some other doctors there there as well and Arne Burkhardt he looked me straight in my eyes with 560 1:18:10 --> 1:18:21 his very clear light blue eyes he said very calmly first myocarditis then endocarditis that's all he 561 1:18:21 --> 1:18:32 said actually so I went home to Sabina's place and at the evening a man called me 562 1:18:33 --> 1:18:40 by the name of Ulf Bittner a Swedish man he died just a couple of weeks ago 563 1:18:42 --> 1:18:50 but he was a very special man he has his own YouTube channel he had a newsletter 564 1:18:51 --> 1:18:59 a fantastic man he was so informative he wasn't at all intellectual he was uh he was 565 1:19:00 --> 1:19:07 a soldier he was not an intellectual he gathered information and he spewed it out in his channels 566 1:19:07 --> 1:19:16 and he was like a machine he was a fantastic human being and he uh Ulf Bittner died thank you 567 1:19:16 --> 1:19:25 thank you Silja for your question Ulf Bittner died from uh actually from the failure of a heart 568 1:19:25 --> 1:19:38 surgery uh he didn't want a stent but they forced it uh on him and he's he had failure of uh 569 1:19:39 --> 1:19:49 uh his stomach couldn't get rid of water and he had failure of of his vital organs 570 1:19:51 --> 1:20:00 but I can tell you more about that later but uh anyway Ulf Bittner he wanted to interview me 571 1:20:01 --> 1:20:05 and after that after that 572 1:20:07 --> 1:20:10 Sweb TV it's uh it's uh 573 1:20:14 --> 1:20:22 it's a it's a YouTube channel that is pretty close to the Sweden Democrats they wanted to 574 1:20:22 --> 1:20:23 interview me as well 575 1:20:28 --> 1:20:32 I don't think it has anything to do with it but the journalist that interviewed me 576 1:20:34 --> 1:20:40 got fired the day after and they never published the long interview that he did only a short 577 1:20:41 --> 1:20:52 on a couple of seconds but anyway um this started something because Ulf Bittner he 578 1:20:52 --> 1:21:00 told me you have to report this directly to a prosecutor how do you mean I said what do you mean 579 1:21:03 --> 1:21:05 it's better that you report this straight to 580 1:21:08 --> 1:21:15 yes his name was Jesper Johansson Silja he's a fantastic guy I love him a lot he we still 581 1:21:15 --> 1:21:23 keep in touch uh he was the best journalist on that channel and he was fired and he didn't get to 582 1:21:25 --> 1:21:30 they shut him off totally he couldn't even pick something up from his office 583 1:21:31 --> 1:21:37 they didn't want him to access his computer and it was very strange but uh I don't think it has 584 1:21:37 --> 1:21:43 anything actually I don't think it has anything to do with uh the interview he did with me because 585 1:21:43 --> 1:21:49 they are very skeptical uh towards the covid vaccine etc but anyway 586 1:21:51 --> 1:21:57 Ulf Bittner he told me you have to do a report to the directly to the prosecutor okay and 587 1:21:58 --> 1:22:09 fortunately his good friend was uh also interviewing me together with Ulf and his good friend was Dr 588 1:22:09 --> 1:22:21 Björn Hammarskjöld he's a former chief pediatric physician and he helped me with the medical 589 1:22:21 --> 1:22:28 evidence uh medical evaluation and we filed this report to the prosecutor and the prosecutor turned 590 1:22:28 --> 1:22:35 it down and said there is not enough evidence of the connection between the vaccine and the death 591 1:22:35 --> 1:22:45 and uh we uh worked even harder I digged very deep in documents uh medical reports 592 1:22:45 --> 1:22:55 clinical analysis etc uh and I uh like my method was to mail Björn everything I had 593 1:22:55 --> 1:23:05 I said as I told Stephen yesterday I use chat GPT as well to organize the information and give me 594 1:23:05 --> 1:23:12 chronologies and stuff like that and I I mailed everything to Björn and he said well okay maybe 595 1:23:12 --> 1:23:20 but this is not totally correct and this is correct and you know and we we transcribed something out 596 1:23:20 --> 1:23:30 of it we we transcribed something out of it that actually made the prosecutor change her mind 597 1:23:34 --> 1:23:41 that is something you know that totally shook me because 598 1:23:41 --> 1:23:50 I've always felt that I have certain talents but I've also felt a little bit insecure and 599 1:23:52 --> 1:24:02 a little bit yes traumatized already when I was a teenager and I I I don't have 600 1:24:03 --> 1:24:11 I didn't have a lot of confidence but when I saw this I was totally shocked and I felt well 601 1:24:12 --> 1:24:23 I couldn't save Nikolas life uh I even um cooperated in his death unwillingly of course 602 1:24:23 --> 1:24:31 I was fooled to do it because I wanted to to protect him and they fooled me to protect him 603 1:24:31 --> 1:24:39 with something that killed him so I didn't feel very confident but I I understood that I had done 604 1:24:39 --> 1:24:48 something very good and the prosecutor actually said that I was going to kill him and I said 605 1:24:48 --> 1:24:56 something very good and the prosecutor actually wrote in a letter because of the information 606 1:24:56 --> 1:25:06 added to the case I have changed my mind and I will now start an investigation a preliminary 607 1:25:06 --> 1:25:10 investigation okay and 608 1:25:13 --> 1:25:15 I called the the Swedish 609 1:25:17 --> 1:25:26 state tv they were not interested there is not enough news value they said I was so angry 610 1:25:27 --> 1:25:29 this is not 611 1:25:31 --> 1:25:37 this is not very characteristic for me but I actually started to yell at a drunk man at the bus 612 1:25:38 --> 1:25:49 afterwards I had I actually had a rage at the bus I started to yell at a very drunk man 613 1:25:49 --> 1:26:00 man uh after this so uh that really upset me that the tv that the television didn't want to 614 1:26:00 --> 1:26:13 report on it but it didn't stop me uh I continued to uh uh talk about this was interviewed by Ulf 615 1:26:13 --> 1:26:21 Bittner of course he was so happy and he made a video interview he was so happy and 616 1:26:22 --> 1:26:28 Björn Hammarskjöld was there and we felt like boys in a candy shop and 617 1:26:31 --> 1:26:40 yes he was fantastic and uh and Björn as well he's also fantastic um and um anyway 618 1:26:41 --> 1:26:47 uh epoch times decided to interview me the swedish epoch times that was a wonderful 619 1:26:47 --> 1:26:51 interview but I felt this is still too small 620 1:26:55 --> 1:27:00 I got to know a very fantastic woman she is the mother 621 1:27:01 --> 1:27:11 she's the mother-in-law to Pontus Seavius the victim of Moderna's COVID vaccine he died 622 1:27:12 --> 1:27:23 in the end of January 2022 two weeks only two weeks after he sent his COVID vaccine shots from 623 1:27:23 --> 1:27:30 COVID vaccine shots from Moderna he died from a cardiac arrest he got home 624 1:27:31 --> 1:27:39 one day and feeling bad and he told his wife and his daughter who was only seven eight or eight 625 1:27:39 --> 1:27:46 years old uh I feel bad I have to take a walk what's wrong baby she said and he was taking 626 1:27:46 --> 1:27:53 this walk and it was snowy this is was in a fantastic landscape called Värmland it's very 627 1:27:53 --> 1:28:02 beautiful there so he was like taking this walk uh in uh among the houses where they lived and 628 1:28:04 --> 1:28:10 he felt worse and worse and he felt pain in his chest and he called uh emergency 629 1:28:11 --> 1:28:20 911 is called 112 in Sweden but anyway he called uh emergency but they said to him 630 1:28:22 --> 1:28:32 that sounds like anxiety we recommend I recommend you to call uh the priest 631 1:28:33 --> 1:28:46 uh the priest a priest I mean this priest taking calls you know and he got uh a cardiac arrest 632 1:28:46 --> 1:29:00 after that phone call there was an ambulance in the in the area so he got help but it was of no use 633 1:29:00 --> 1:29:08 he died on his way to the hospital or perhaps at the hospital I can't remember but 634 1:29:09 --> 1:29:15 anyway he was only 30 years old and he shouldn't have had the Moderna because it was stopped for 635 1:29:15 --> 1:29:26 his age group so actually they won they received a small economical compensation for his death 636 1:29:26 --> 1:29:34 the family I mean from the state so the state has acknowledged that he died from COVID 637 1:29:34 --> 1:29:48 the Moderna's COVID vaccine and um I met his mother-in-law at the the book uh there's like 638 1:29:49 --> 1:29:57 there's like a big book show in Göteborg in Gothenburg every year and I spoke there and I met 639 1:29:57 --> 1:30:06 his mother-in-law there and I also spoke to her on a whole lot on the phone this was uh of course 640 1:30:06 --> 1:30:20 2023 and it was fall 2023 uh no it was sorry it was spring this was springtime 2024 actually 641 1:30:20 --> 1:30:30 because the interview the interview in Epoch Times was published in uh October 2023 and then 642 1:30:31 --> 1:30:35 this happened and and this book show was 643 1:30:38 --> 1:30:50 in September 2023 and then springtime those out 2024 she called me and the mother-in-law 644 1:30:50 --> 1:30:56 to Pontus she said the police is starting an investigation about Pontus as well 645 1:30:56 --> 1:31:06 Wow great I said I was a little bit post-traumatic uh it's a little bit better now but uh 646 1:31:07 --> 1:31:16 during that time I could get very irritated and switch personality a little bit so uh I 647 1:31:18 --> 1:31:21 was a little bit harsh and told her 648 1:31:21 --> 1:31:22 and told her 649 1:31:25 --> 1:31:34 if the biggest newspaper Aftonbladet and Expressen that's also a big newspaper if the biggest 650 1:31:34 --> 1:31:41 newspaper call you now I want to report about this you have to mention Nikolas and me 651 1:31:43 --> 1:31:50 yes I always mention you because they there were some reports in local media and stuff like that 652 1:31:50 --> 1:32:01 always yes but you have to yes of course she would have done it anyway but this was what 653 1:32:01 --> 1:32:08 happened I want to be honest that uh I was a little bit harsh but it would have happened anyway and uh 654 1:32:08 --> 1:32:11 uh 655 1:32:12 --> 1:32:23 Linnea Blomgren from Aftonbladet called me and she is a young woman she had uh 656 1:32:25 --> 1:32:27 recently started there at Aftonbladet 657 1:32:27 --> 1:32:38 it means evening post and uh she wanted to interview me and for some reason she made a totally 658 1:32:38 --> 1:32:50 unfiltered interview it was published and immediately they called from Göteborg's biggest 659 1:32:50 --> 1:32:58 newspaper and Expressen that is also a big newspaper and they wanted to interview me as well 660 1:32:58 --> 1:33:00 they followed the lead 661 1:33:03 --> 1:33:14 the Göteborg posten the biggest uh paper of Göteborg did that woman also a young woman also 662 1:33:15 --> 1:33:24 also a young woman also angelic both they are both beautiful not that it matter but 663 1:33:25 --> 1:33:32 they are angelic both of those journalists they have a very kind way and they are 664 1:33:33 --> 1:33:40 they are fantastic in any in every way not that I know them but what I've known from them and 665 1:33:40 --> 1:33:52 uh this uh journalist from Göteborg she also did a totally unfiltered interview not a single lie 666 1:33:53 --> 1:34:02 every word that I said and she quoted me when I said that the state murdered my son 667 1:34:02 --> 1:34:13 and that is fantastic I think you know and um this is 668 1:34:15 --> 1:34:22 why I wanted to share some moments from the hospital with you that I had with Nikolas 669 1:34:22 --> 1:34:29 and how his character is because his character is still working in this 670 1:34:29 --> 1:34:37 and it will conquer evil all through the world 671 1:34:47 --> 1:34:57 it resulted in more attention and I got to know Celia Farber that is a big inspiration for me 672 1:35:00 --> 1:35:08 and my idol I would say I've always been fascinated by investigative journalists all 673 1:35:09 --> 1:35:13 the way from I was a child and and Celia Farber is one of the greatest 674 1:35:15 --> 1:35:20 uh that exposed Fauci in the 80s you know 675 1:35:21 --> 1:35:26 I haven't done enough research but Celia I think you would agree that you 676 1:35:27 --> 1:35:35 there that you were unique that did this and you must be a very unique person that did that 677 1:35:38 --> 1:35:48 and uh of course I have digged into what Fauci did and uh what he did 678 1:35:48 --> 1:35:54 did and what role he played but I will not go into that but I will 679 1:35:56 --> 1:36:03 say before your questions that Celia introduced me to Dr Kirk Milhawan 680 1:36:05 --> 1:36:15 the pediatric cardiologist that also read Nikolas journals and stated for the police 681 1:36:15 --> 1:36:25 that Moderna's COVID vaccine is the most likely primarily cause of Nikolas death and that is 682 1:36:26 --> 1:36:35 on paper for the police and the police has recently switched the man in charge there 683 1:36:35 --> 1:36:42 and they have moved it to a section for heavy crime I don't know why but the prosecutor is 684 1:36:42 --> 1:36:49 the prosecutor is still on this she told me on the phone before Christmas that she has to prioritize 685 1:36:51 --> 1:36:56 people in jail waiting for their trial well I can understand that but 686 1:36:58 --> 1:37:04 there's still some hope I I absolutely think that there is hope for a trial in our case 687 1:37:05 --> 1:37:10 and I would be happy if you have some questions because I don't think I will 688 1:37:11 --> 1:37:18 say anything more about that although we have we have we have questions but before we go to Stephen 689 1:37:18 --> 1:37:25 thank you so much for your heart-wrenching testimony and and the only I have five children 690 1:37:25 --> 1:37:30 and I just can't imagine going through what you've gone through before we go to Stephen 691 1:37:30 --> 1:37:36 for the first several questions Celia would you like to say something before Stephen starts 692 1:37:36 --> 1:37:41 because Bobo is here with us because of your recommendation Celia 693 1:37:43 --> 1:37:47 it's a little hard it's a little hard to talk like so many of us it's 694 1:37:48 --> 1:37:57 Bobo's story and how he tells it it just brings you to tears it's it's so because how he 695 1:37:59 --> 1:38:05 how he is as a human being as you've all just heard and how he takes in the world and expresses 696 1:38:05 --> 1:38:11 everything it's it's it's it's like the the whole person the whole heart the whole is perceiving 697 1:38:11 --> 1:38:22 everything and describing everything in such harrowing detail and it's actually even beyond 698 1:38:22 --> 1:38:28 the murder of of the mRNA shots it's and with Nicholas's death what strikes me as somebody 699 1:38:28 --> 1:38:32 who's half Swedish and grew up in Sweden that in addition it takes place in this 700 1:38:33 --> 1:38:44 surreal not surreal like very dystopic setting and when he tells his story Bobo when you tell 701 1:38:44 --> 1:38:51 your story I'm just I feel like I'm there with you I'm I'm just white knuckling and I'm on the 702 1:38:51 --> 1:38:58 edge of tears and I can see all these people in fact when you first when you and I first started 703 1:38:59 --> 1:39:07 started talking you told the story about I think it was that guy who burst in who had all that 704 1:39:07 --> 1:39:14 energy and wasn't it something he said about a tie what was it could you tell that story I know 705 1:39:14 --> 1:39:20 it's this was actually thank you for asking this was actually what you are talking about is actually 706 1:39:20 --> 1:39:28 the decon I haven't mentioned him if you would share that story real quick because it's all right 707 1:39:28 --> 1:39:36 yeah he actually entered the room together with the chief of the head of intensive care 708 1:39:37 --> 1:39:42 so you're right on that and he was also filled with energy and like he had a good meal 709 1:39:45 --> 1:39:56 they were happy that Nicholas was going to die that was obvious this decon I had as yeah 710 1:39:58 --> 1:40:05 he he I was going to him for talks all through the time on the hospital 711 1:40:06 --> 1:40:14 and in the beginning I felt that it was a good support because I kind of I felt that I could 712 1:40:14 --> 1:40:23 cry a little bit and then go back to Nicholas and not crying with Nicholas so I cried with this man 713 1:40:23 --> 1:40:26 it was a bald a little bit fat man 714 1:40:29 --> 1:40:38 he was nothing special but as as long as he kept his mouth shut I believed that he was listening 715 1:40:38 --> 1:40:46 to me and I was crying but when he when he started to talk a little bit I understood that 716 1:40:46 --> 1:40:55 there was something really wrong with him because I noticed that he wanted to test me and see if I 717 1:40:55 --> 1:41:03 could obey obey the hospital more or less he was he had some kind of role to make 718 1:41:05 --> 1:41:08 the relatives obedient and 719 1:41:08 --> 1:41:10 um 720 1:41:12 --> 1:41:23 when I listened to him talking to a mother and father in the kitchen one day I heard he I heard 721 1:41:23 --> 1:41:32 the father telling him well I guess we just have to trust in God hell no he said 722 1:41:32 --> 1:41:37 that's right say it in Swedish for a second 723 1:41:39 --> 1:41:40 uh 724 1:41:42 --> 1:41:51 it's like yeah it's like if you translate it directly it's like the devil knows the devil knows 725 1:41:51 --> 1:41:59 yeah so this is so bizarre this whole dimension to your story it's like something is very wrong 726 1:41:59 --> 1:42:04 like a horror movie with all the people you just almost all the people you describe at this hospital 727 1:42:05 --> 1:42:09 there's another episode where a lady a nurse 728 1:42:12 --> 1:42:22 was there at his bed at Nicholas bed after his severe brain damage and he had also spasms he had 729 1:42:23 --> 1:42:30 like epileptic attacks after his brain damages and he was shivering a little bit and she was like 730 1:42:30 --> 1:42:44 and he started to have a hiccup and she was like telling him in my country we scare children to 731 1:42:44 --> 1:42:56 stop the hiccups maybe I should scare you and I said no you no you don't and she started and 732 1:42:56 --> 1:43:05 she pushed the limit even more because all of the sudden she started to say uh 733 1:43:06 --> 1:43:13 uh do you know Nicholas that we're talking shit about you behind the glass 734 1:43:15 --> 1:43:25 are you serious this was supposed to be funny but how funny is it when the boy your boy my boy 735 1:43:26 --> 1:43:33 has so severe brain damage that he can talk and move voluntarily how funny is it you know not very 736 1:43:33 --> 1:43:44 funny so I asked the doctors to remove her and I didn't saw her there anymore but back to the deacon 737 1:43:44 --> 1:43:52 or the dean I think the dean is the word right no dean would be a head of a college or university 738 1:43:52 --> 1:44:00 it's not the dean I don't know what's the word I think deacon is correct okay deacon so he's helping 739 1:44:00 --> 1:44:07 the priest and whatever and he's from the church this guy and so when Nicholas 740 1:44:08 --> 1:44:13 when they made the decision to remove the nutrition to take away the nutrition 741 1:44:13 --> 1:44:21 we wanted to speak to this Johan this guy this deacon we wanted to speak to him about what would 742 1:44:21 --> 1:44:30 happen after Nicholas died so we went to him in good faith and we asked him and he said very 743 1:44:30 --> 1:44:37 with a very like with a big satisfaction in his voice when Nicholas is dead 744 1:44:41 --> 1:44:49 he will be taken to the morgue and the morgue and etc and his mother said we were thinking he 745 1:44:49 --> 1:44:58 could have a suit because he loves suits he liked he liked uh he liked Barney in 746 1:44:59 --> 1:45:07 the sitcom how I met your mother yeah so he liked suits and he wanted and she said maybe he can have 747 1:45:07 --> 1:45:19 a suit and he said yeah and a small tie from Armani maybe and I was looking at him very 748 1:45:19 --> 1:45:29 disgusted but I didn't want to upset anything around this so I kept my mouth shut but 749 1:45:31 --> 1:45:39 that person is definitely on my list to expose and humiliate 750 1:45:39 --> 1:45:48 because I am a very vengeful person I'm not very I'm I come across 751 1:45:50 --> 1:45:57 I think I come across a little bit sweet but I can be very vengeful and he's definitely on my list 752 1:45:57 --> 1:46:05 to in all legal ways humiliate as much as I can because he definitely didn't serve God 753 1:46:05 --> 1:46:11 yeah I mean for those again just to go over that first of all now that I'm hearing it again these 754 1:46:11 --> 1:46:18 stories there's they're breathtaking details and I think for those of us you know I'm half Swedish 755 1:46:18 --> 1:46:24 and half American but I'm more American but I think for people who aren't Swedish they probably 756 1:46:24 --> 1:46:31 don't even fit anywhere in anybody's imagination like what is this who are these people what 757 1:46:31 --> 1:46:40 I wouldn't say that it's specifically Swedish this I would say that something rotten happened during 758 1:46:40 --> 1:46:50 during the pandemic I think I think they were dragged into some kind of demonic vibrations 759 1:46:50 --> 1:46:57 yes from the pandemic so probably it's a lot of people don't even know what it is 760 1:46:58 --> 1:47:06 so probably at its own demonic vibrations so these were like the Swedish demonic vibrations 761 1:47:06 --> 1:47:13 as they manifested interesting yeah maybe they maybe they escalated the Swedish demons yeah 762 1:47:14 --> 1:47:17 I mean you have a deacon who you're who's saying 763 1:47:17 --> 1:47:28 the devil no it's also anyway I just I'm so honored to be your friend and I'm so proud of you and 764 1:47:28 --> 1:47:34 I just want to give other people a chance to ask you questions and you're just you thank you so 765 1:47:34 --> 1:47:40 much likewise thank you thank you so much Celia all right Stephen your video is off over to you 766 1:47:40 --> 1:47:46 Stephen your video is off over to you for the next 15 minutes yeah just two seconds 767 1:47:50 --> 1:47:56 there we are so I'll pull it down in a second so Bobo thank you so much for talking to us 768 1:47:56 --> 1:48:04 I think you did so I think I understand you you want to do the best you can for your son 769 1:48:04 --> 1:48:09 so this meeting is very important for you and I think the video is going to be very powerful 770 1:48:09 --> 1:48:15 um because you have a remarkable ability to tell stories across international boundaries and 771 1:48:16 --> 1:48:23 and and in a foreign language for you so it's very I feel that my English is a little bit weak 772 1:48:23 --> 1:48:28 but thank you anyway well no it's pretty good actually wow great I was struck when you sent 773 1:48:28 --> 1:48:34 the bio to me about three or four days ago um Bobo I noticed that the English was perfect 774 1:48:35 --> 1:48:42 well I thank chat GPT for that yes I was just going to tell the story so I asked you um who 775 1:48:42 --> 1:48:48 had checked it for you because I couldn't believe that your English was so good when it wasn't your 776 1:48:48 --> 1:48:57 first um language um uh so and you said that it was artificial intelligence yeah and I said well 777 1:48:57 --> 1:49:04 actually yeah very good job from artificial intelligence but still we have to be aware of 778 1:49:04 --> 1:49:12 them yes absolutely because it seems to me that artificial intelligence well first of all is not 779 1:49:12 --> 1:49:18 very intelligent no and but the people using the artificial intelligence have to be extraordinarily 780 1:49:18 --> 1:49:24 intelligent for no evil to be done that's what I can see now I don't understand it but you then went 781 1:49:24 --> 1:49:29 tell me that you haven't you didn't say that you haven't but I realized you had an amazing 782 1:49:29 --> 1:49:34 ability to understand all the tech that's going on because you talked about various things 783 1:49:34 --> 1:49:42 yeah I will show you I will show you my book this is uh this is a book that I wrote uh 2018 784 1:49:43 --> 1:49:50 those up to the it took me two years to write this book uh it's about my experiments on the 785 1:49:50 --> 1:49:59 internet I started to experimenting with dialogue on the internet uh 2007 786 1:50:00 --> 1:50:11 and I stopped a little bit and I started again 2015 and 2018 I asked a publisher if they wanted 787 1:50:11 --> 1:50:18 to publish a book about it and I only wrote 14 pages to them and I signed a deal with them 788 1:50:19 --> 1:50:24 uh and I wrote this book with their help they they gave me a great they gave me a lot of help 789 1:50:24 --> 1:50:32 actually they are a little bit uh leftish they are like a little bit liberal uh that publisher 790 1:50:33 --> 1:50:45 and I am a little bit more uh I'm I guess I'm a libertarian more or less uh uh but uh I kind of 791 1:50:46 --> 1:50:56 I kind of uh lured myself in into their web kind of and and and and the the work we did together was 792 1:50:56 --> 1:51:03 pretty good and I covered every aspect of advanced internet trolling 793 1:51:04 --> 1:51:14 and there are ex there are some aspects that are very useful of course they wanted me to be very 794 1:51:14 --> 1:51:20 self-critical and I went to a therapist and the therapist wrote a chapter in the book as well 795 1:51:20 --> 1:51:30 I actually let him write a chapter just as an alibi sort of uh to whitewash uh the book to 796 1:51:30 --> 1:51:39 whitewash myself from the more uh uh yeah from what they 797 1:51:41 --> 1:51:50 because the truth is that I kind of enjoyed myself experimenting and the experiments were 798 1:51:50 --> 1:52:00 pretty harmless uh sometimes I'm sure I upset some people but it was almost only about 799 1:52:01 --> 1:52:14 the big thing I did was to create uh I create big big mobs against myself against I I 800 1:52:14 --> 1:52:24 um very rare I very rarely used uh another name I used my own name that's why I changed my name 801 1:52:24 --> 1:52:32 2008 because it was impossible for me to have I was baptized to be as struck to be us to bias 802 1:52:32 --> 1:52:41 stroke so I was baptized uh uh to be us and uh I changed my name 2008 because it was too 803 1:52:41 --> 1:52:51 difficult for me to get a job uh with a simple goog a simple uh move on google would destroy 804 1:52:51 --> 1:52:59 everything for me it was so I I wrote very much political stuff but I always experimented with 805 1:53:00 --> 1:53:11 kind of like I I wanted to see if I mixed uh discourses from different political angles 806 1:53:11 --> 1:53:18 and what would happen how would people react would I be able to convince people would I be able to 807 1:53:19 --> 1:53:25 shake them would I be able to disturb them would I be able to change their views 808 1:53:26 --> 1:53:33 and what I write here is for example and why I'm talking about this is it's because I'm using this 809 1:53:33 --> 1:53:42 right now uh I enjoyed doing this when I was younger now I don't have the same 810 1:53:44 --> 1:53:53 I'm not driven by uh I'm not driven by the amusement anymore of course I'm I'm driven by 811 1:53:53 --> 1:54:01 trauma uh I'm very driven and it's trauma it's the trauma that is driving me 812 1:54:02 --> 1:54:11 and the feeling that I'm doing a duty to my son and honoring him but it's the same techniques 813 1:54:11 --> 1:54:18 I'm using the same same techniques on the internet yes brilliant and for example I'm quoting 814 1:54:18 --> 1:54:27 um the head of Cambridge Analytica they got known for helping Donald Trump to become the president 815 1:54:27 --> 1:54:38 of United States 2016 yeah brilliant and uh they are also known from the documentary The Great Hack 816 1:54:38 --> 1:54:48 uh where it's described how they helped the Ethnic Indian Party UNC to a victory 817 1:54:50 --> 1:55:01 uh over another party another ethnic party in Trinidad and Trinidad and Tobago 2010 and it's 818 1:55:02 --> 1:55:12 very interesting um what Mark Turnbull says in an interview with the British The Mirror and I quote 819 1:55:14 --> 1:55:21 we just put information into the bloodstream of the internet and then watch it grow give it a 820 1:55:21 --> 1:55:29 little push every now and then give it a little push every now and again over time to watch it 821 1:55:29 --> 1:55:38 take shape and so this stuff infiltrates the online community and expands but with no branding 822 1:55:39 --> 1:55:43 so it's unattributable untrackable 823 1:55:46 --> 1:55:52 so um do you think that's the formation of a cult on the internet even we still can't see your face 824 1:55:53 --> 1:56:03 it's not only useful for formating cults in this case what they did in Trinidad and Tobago 825 1:56:04 --> 1:56:09 was that they started a compend they started a trend among young people to not vote 826 1:56:12 --> 1:56:21 the sorry I find stuff like this amusing but it's not it's really tragic uh they 827 1:56:22 --> 1:56:30 they made the young people in the African ethnic group not voting so the Indian ethnic group 828 1:56:31 --> 1:56:40 succeeded to win they they campaigned they started a trend that it was cool to not vote you know 829 1:56:41 --> 1:56:51 yeah and it's not only useful if you want to create a trend or a cult it's useful to 830 1:56:52 --> 1:57:00 in fact create a new culture and I call it a global culture without central power 831 1:57:02 --> 1:57:11 and it will assign my vision my vision is that through internet we are definitely 832 1:57:12 --> 1:57:21 able to create something much stronger than Fauci ever dreamt of than Gates ever dreamt of 833 1:57:22 --> 1:57:32 uh what I believe that I in the end can create on the internet uh is only what you know 834 1:57:33 --> 1:57:43 old men like that can dream of I'm not I'm not very young myself but I find I I find that uh 835 1:57:43 --> 1:57:50 Bill Gates and uh Anthony Fauci and guys like that they don't understand internet 836 1:57:51 --> 1:57:55 no so they're very pedestrian in their understanding yes I agree with you so 837 1:57:55 --> 1:58:02 yes and that's what I spoke yesterday when we were talking I was struck by uh the way you described 838 1:58:02 --> 1:58:12 how um the internet if you like was manipulated uh by uh groups or people um it doesn't really 839 1:58:12 --> 1:58:19 matter you've got the creation of a cult and that's exactly how I understood that uh President Trump 840 1:58:19 --> 1:58:26 had come to power I'm not saying that he did it if you like the the um the cult which was created 841 1:58:28 --> 1:58:36 was hijacked uh by the people who wanted uh Trump in power from being a businessman he had no history 842 1:58:36 --> 1:58:41 in politics so it was an extraordinary achievement but now of course yes absolutely think of this 843 1:58:42 --> 1:58:49 think of this if I can plant an idea 844 1:58:51 --> 1:59:02 among people that are already close to the edge that are what Hillary Clinton called the deplorable 845 1:59:03 --> 1:59:09 yep uh long time without work poor people desperate people 846 1:59:11 --> 1:59:21 if I can plant ideas in their minds of how to conquer how to conquer their enemy and who 847 1:59:21 --> 1:59:31 their enemy is and uh wouldn't you if you were their enemy wouldn't you come to me 848 1:59:32 --> 1:59:42 and beg me to plant something merciful among them and is that what the Trump people when they got 849 1:59:42 --> 1:59:48 in league with the Cambridge Analytica I don't I know about Cambridge Analytica but I'm not I 850 1:59:48 --> 1:59:56 can't quite remember how it went but um uh the Cambridge Analytica they uh distillated uh 851 1:59:56 --> 2:00:07 information from millions of Facebook profiles and they manufactured uh targeted ads yes that's 852 2:00:07 --> 2:00:19 right yes so they um created copyright and pictures and movies you know videos that were 853 2:00:19 --> 2:00:26 especially designed to reach the hearts of what they understood was the target groups and they 854 2:00:26 --> 2:00:36 targeted insecure voters voters that hadn't made up their mind yet but but were they targeting those 855 2:00:36 --> 2:00:43 people on behalf of Trump all along or were they targeting them because this was only for this was 856 2:00:43 --> 2:00:50 the campaign the Trump campaign this was this method they they invented this method for the 857 2:00:50 --> 2:01:00 Trump campaign yeah but but were the people around Trump uh egging them on or was it just 858 2:01:00 --> 2:01:09 offered to them I mean I don't know they were uh you know uh Trump or their their client you know 859 2:01:09 --> 2:01:17 right Cambridge Analytica it's a PR uh bureau so they were yeah 860 2:01:17 --> 2:01:21 That's 15 minutes, David. That's 15 minutes so quickly. 861 2:01:21 --> 2:01:28 Well yeah but I wanted to say one or two things so um Bobo it's very important that we talk about this um so I think your testimony tonight 862 2:01:28 --> 2:01:37 um has a huge potential um none of us knows really because we're human beings um but we 863 2:01:37 --> 2:01:48 don't really know where things will go in the future um and not not why either um but I do think that every medical student needs to watch this presentation 864 2:01:48 --> 2:01:58 Thank you thank you so much. It was a brilliant presentation Bobo if you were worrying about not doing your son justice you had no worries at all. 865 2:01:58 --> 2:02:05 Well that's very uh helpful for me to hearing that so thank you. 866 2:02:05 --> 2:02:17 You're absolutely brilliant at telling stories. Yeah wow that means a lot to me to hear yeah and it's no accident that the prosecutor has backed you in my opinion. 867 2:02:17 --> 2:02:27 Thank you very good thank you Stephen thank you Celia all right we've got Peter's hand up we've got 25 minutes to go and then we're finishing up the presentation. 868 2:02:27 --> 2:02:35 We're finishing so if others have questions now's the time to put your hand up. Peter who over to you in Wales. 869 2:02:36 --> 2:02:43 Cheers um Bobo thank you Charles Bobo thank you so much for joining us today um thank you. 870 2:02:44 --> 2:02:51 I've had to write this down um as I think others would have to. The lack of hands up is because 871 2:02:51 --> 2:02:59 we're just gobsmacked with your story um your bravery your honesty you're a good man. 872 2:03:00 --> 2:03:12 Thank you. You give us all hope my friend we sometimes lose our way and this is the sort of kick up the ass we need to know why we're fighting this. 873 2:03:13 --> 2:03:23 Why we've been meeting twice a week for over four years and sometimes when we get a bit lost maybe we need to read your story and that tells us why we're doing it. 874 2:03:24 --> 2:03:31 So I'll read out what I wrote because I'm not often lost for words but I am a little bit tonight as I'm sure most people on here are. 875 2:03:32 --> 2:03:42 Um a couple a couple people put down they felt physically sick at times feeling your pain you your family your wife and thank you all the people around you so. 876 2:03:43 --> 2:03:50 So sorry you went through all this um so you might put down here your presentation was so painful and uncomfortable for us. 877 2:03:51 --> 2:03:57 It was agony and it was very real it was needed at this time and was also very inspiring. 878 2:03:58 --> 2:04:06 It will give us the strength to carry on the fight for humanity and when we falter your tragic loss will highlight us why we must fight on. 879 2:04:07 --> 2:04:19 So on that point and this is my question in a way um you probably know from Stephen maybe that Charles Covass here myself and some other top experts in the world. 880 2:04:20 --> 2:04:29 Are dealing with a case for a young man who's on the zoom tonight but he can't speak his phone is playing up but I believe he can hear everything. 881 2:04:29 --> 2:04:37 His mother was killed by the Pfizer vaccine or the Pfizer treatment it's not a vaccine. 882 2:04:37 --> 2:04:45 And it's going to inquest now we've got a bit of a problem with that an inquest as you probably know is there to establish. 883 2:04:45 --> 2:04:49 The and this is important for the other people to know of course I know you know it. 884 2:04:49 --> 2:04:54 The inquest establishes the cause of death and it's not there to apportion blame. 885 2:04:55 --> 2:05:02 So we have to be very careful when we get to the inquest because it looks like Pfizer are going to have to appear. 886 2:05:03 --> 2:05:11 So for us that is a very very important point and we have to get the interest of the um of the inquest judge. 887 2:05:12 --> 2:05:19 To want to look at an investigation and maybe ask for a criminal investigation afterwards if we are successful. 888 2:05:20 --> 2:05:25 So on that point and again don't feel you have to answer all of this now but after this. 889 2:05:26 --> 2:05:32 Zoom if you do think Peter and Charles could do this bit of information or this link so is there anything. 890 2:05:33 --> 2:05:40 That you can give us maybe or even Celia that will help us establish the causal link. 891 2:05:41 --> 2:05:47 Or any advice at all on what to focus on or even avoid going forward with our case. 892 2:05:49 --> 2:05:50 That's my question. 893 2:05:55 --> 2:05:59 Just let me think a little bit about it because it's a very important question. 894 2:06:00 --> 2:06:10 And I researched this very thoroughly and I think there are a lot of evidence. 895 2:06:10 --> 2:06:16 There are for example a study with data from 99 million people. 896 2:06:16 --> 2:06:18 Have you heard about it? I guess you've heard about it. 897 2:06:18 --> 2:06:19 Yep. 898 2:06:19 --> 2:06:33 And it shows 12 medical consequences from the COVID vaccine. 899 2:06:34 --> 2:06:38 And I think in the bottom of it. 900 2:06:40 --> 2:06:46 I think when you communicate about this you have to start with. 901 2:06:50 --> 2:06:53 The simple thing that the. 902 2:06:58 --> 2:07:04 mRNA molecules embedded in the lipid particles. 903 2:07:05 --> 2:07:10 Are programming the cell to produce a non-human protein. 904 2:07:11 --> 2:07:17 Because even if it's a prosecutor it doesn't mean that that person know this. 905 2:07:17 --> 2:07:18 No. 906 2:07:19 --> 2:07:20 So if you start there. 907 2:07:24 --> 2:07:28 And you tell it very in a simple way. 908 2:07:29 --> 2:07:32 That it's instructing the cell that is programming the cell. 909 2:07:37 --> 2:07:43 It's introduced in the cell and then it makes the cell produce the spike protein. 910 2:07:43 --> 2:07:52 And then what happens is that it's supposed to only create antibodies. 911 2:07:52 --> 2:07:58 But it also stimulates T cells and some of them instruct cells to kill themselves. 912 2:08:00 --> 2:08:04 And the consequence of that is inflammation. 913 2:08:04 --> 2:08:11 And the consequence of inflammation can be. 914 2:08:13 --> 2:08:14 Blood clots. 915 2:08:15 --> 2:08:17 Can also be scar tissue. 916 2:08:19 --> 2:08:25 That disturbs the electrical system of the heart if it's if the inflammation occurred in the heart. 917 2:08:25 --> 2:08:31 Or disturbs the brain and the blood clots can also move through the body and all of the sudden. 918 2:08:32 --> 2:08:35 Stay at the danger place a dangerous place. 919 2:08:37 --> 2:08:46 Like in the lungs for example if you if you tell the story like that you start in the. 920 2:08:49 --> 2:08:51 Intrusive mechanism. 921 2:08:52 --> 2:08:56 Of the mRNA molecule entering. 922 2:08:57 --> 2:08:57 The cell. 923 2:08:57 --> 2:09:05 And changing the cells the function making it produce a non human protein. 924 2:09:05 --> 2:09:08 If you start there and then you go to. 925 2:09:10 --> 2:09:14 How the immune system reacts and how it can create. 926 2:09:15 --> 2:09:21 Inflammations and from there go to how it can create different kinds of medical problems. 927 2:09:23 --> 2:09:25 Then you have the listener. 928 2:09:25 --> 2:09:26 The listener. 929 2:09:27 --> 2:09:35 Occupied by the idea that they are dealing with an enemy to God's creation. 930 2:09:37 --> 2:09:44 We have to understand that we are protecting the cell by this the cell is in danger. 931 2:09:46 --> 2:09:50 What will happen if this manipulation of cells continue. 932 2:09:50 --> 2:09:55 On the whole of humanity it will mean that we will. 933 2:09:56 --> 2:10:02 This financial elite those big investors and their companies they will create. 934 2:10:03 --> 2:10:06 Different human species. 935 2:10:08 --> 2:10:12 They will create some kind of hybrids and you know. 936 2:10:13 --> 2:10:21 For example in the legal system a prosecutor or a lawyer or police officer. 937 2:10:22 --> 2:10:23 An investigator for the police. 938 2:10:25 --> 2:10:30 They have they have to you have to go through their. 939 2:10:31 --> 2:10:34 You have to go through their. 940 2:10:35 --> 2:10:42 Fog their brain fog go through their everyday troubles go through everything you know. 941 2:10:43 --> 2:10:49 Go through their thoughts about you know did I drink too much yesterday. 942 2:10:51 --> 2:10:54 Am I really going to be unfaithful to my wife. 943 2:10:54 --> 2:11:05 Is it is it too late to say I'm sorry all of those thoughts in their heads go through it all. 944 2:11:06 --> 2:11:07 And shake them. 945 2:11:08 --> 2:11:13 And make them understand that when the cell is in danger. 946 2:11:15 --> 2:11:22 It's the same thing as when your family is in danger and it's the same thing as when your nation is in danger and it's the same thing. 947 2:11:22 --> 2:11:32 As when humanity is in danger and the danger comes from a system where big corporations are competing for a low interest. 948 2:11:33 --> 2:11:41 Because the banks they give the lowest interest to the corporation that maximizes the profit the best. 949 2:11:41 --> 2:11:48 And because it's a global market there are no longer any national concerns. 950 2:11:50 --> 2:11:56 And when they when you when you penetrate the brain fog and make them understand that. 951 2:11:58 --> 2:12:08 We have a real enemy against humanity against the citizens and that's enemy that enemy is the government. 952 2:12:08 --> 2:12:11 And that's enemy that enemy. 953 2:12:12 --> 2:12:13 Is. 954 2:12:16 --> 2:12:21 Inside the military inside the state inside the authorities and. 955 2:12:24 --> 2:12:31 This enemy is the system the competition for a low interest rate. 956 2:12:32 --> 2:12:34 And when they understand. 957 2:12:36 --> 2:12:40 Into my intuition when they understand by intuition. 958 2:12:41 --> 2:12:45 That they are sitting inside a machine. 959 2:12:47 --> 2:12:57 That has turned against their family their nation and humanity and their own children. 960 2:12:57 --> 2:13:00 They will start to revolt revolt silently. 961 2:13:01 --> 2:13:15 Yes, yes, so they will start breaking the pattern inside the machine you are right, but I know when I have got through to people. 962 2:13:15 --> 2:13:20 And everything you said there, I was a police prosecutor, I am a lawyer now. 963 2:13:20 --> 2:13:23 A police prosecutor, I am a lawyer now. 964 2:13:24 --> 2:13:30 I've been a local government investigator I've done all those things and you have to make it personal. 965 2:13:30 --> 2:13:31 Yeah. 966 2:13:31 --> 2:13:35 To the people for them to actually realize oh hang on this affects me I'm not just dealing. 967 2:13:36 --> 2:13:42 With a situation here this actually affects me and that's one of the things I will be trying to get through to the judge in this. 968 2:13:43 --> 2:13:47 And one other thing just because obviously your case was Moderna. 969 2:13:47 --> 2:13:52 I remember back five years ago and I got a very good memory for things. 970 2:13:53 --> 2:13:58 I remember going on to the Moderna website and it was Moderna TX Texas I believe. 971 2:13:59 --> 2:14:08 And it said our new mRNA vaccine works like an app on your computer they've changed it now by the way. 972 2:14:09 --> 2:14:17 It can program your body very much like we can program your computer are the words that Moderna used at the time. 973 2:14:17 --> 2:14:23 I don't know if I took a screenshot of that but I will go back through my photographs from five years ago. 974 2:14:23 --> 2:14:24 Interesting. 975 2:14:24 --> 2:14:25 If I have that I will send it to you. 976 2:14:25 --> 2:14:26 Thank you. 977 2:14:26 --> 2:14:32 That would mean a lot because that is a really silly thing to say for them. 978 2:14:32 --> 2:14:32 Yeah. 979 2:14:32 --> 2:14:34 So that's very interesting. 980 2:14:34 --> 2:14:38 But they could easily say it because these people are incredibly arrogant. 981 2:14:38 --> 2:14:42 They have forgotten their dreams and they don't know what humility is. 982 2:14:42 --> 2:14:45 They are unbelievable in their hubris. 983 2:14:45 --> 2:14:47 Absolutely. 984 2:14:47 --> 2:14:51 And I just want to share a thing that happened in Sweden recently. 985 2:14:52 --> 2:14:55 We had a big corporation called Northvolt. 986 2:14:55 --> 2:14:56 Have you heard about it? 987 2:14:57 --> 2:15:06 They wanted to produce batteries for electric vehicles and it failed completely. 988 2:15:06 --> 2:15:12 There it was up in the north and many many hundreds of people lost their jobs. 989 2:15:13 --> 2:15:18 And do you know how much the state invested in this? 990 2:15:18 --> 2:15:28 Of course in the United States you have BlackRock who owns nine billion dollars. 991 2:15:30 --> 2:15:40 So this is not so much in comparison but actually the state invested nine billion dollars. 992 2:15:41 --> 2:15:43 Nine billion. 993 2:15:44 --> 2:15:44 Sorry. 994 2:15:46 --> 2:15:46 Yeah. 995 2:15:50 --> 2:15:54 Silja, a billion is a billion. 996 2:15:57 --> 2:15:57 Yes. 997 2:15:57 --> 2:16:00 A billion is a billion. 998 2:16:00 --> 2:16:00 Yes. 999 2:16:00 --> 2:16:02 Yes it is. 1000 2:16:02 --> 2:16:07 So actually I was wrong about BlackRock because I think yeah. 1001 2:16:07 --> 2:16:17 Yeah the accurate number is that they own nine trillion dollars. 1002 2:16:17 --> 2:16:22 Nine trillion is nine thousand milliard. 1003 2:16:22 --> 2:16:25 Yes that is the correct word. 1004 2:16:26 --> 2:16:30 BlackRock in the case of BlackRock nine trillion dollars. 1005 2:16:30 --> 2:16:39 In the case of Northvolt the state invested nine billion Swedish crowns. 1006 2:16:41 --> 2:16:46 It's a smaller number but that was our pension money. 1007 2:16:47 --> 2:16:48 Oh my gosh. 1008 2:16:48 --> 2:16:49 Yeah. 1009 2:16:50 --> 2:16:54 So people are starting to realize that they don't give a shit. 1010 2:16:54 --> 2:17:05 And of course the family Wallenberg they have investor it's the miniature version of BlackRock. 1011 2:17:06 --> 2:17:08 The smaller version of BlackRock investor. 1012 2:17:09 --> 2:17:12 The Wallenberg family of course invested in Northvolt. 1013 2:17:13 --> 2:17:17 And the head of the family what does he say in TV? 1014 2:17:17 --> 2:17:23 Well sometimes companies succeed and sometimes they fail. 1015 2:17:27 --> 2:17:27 Yeah. 1016 2:17:28 --> 2:17:30 This is not people. 1017 2:17:30 --> 2:17:38 I spoke to a great influencer in Sweden that's by the name of Ida the other day. 1018 2:17:38 --> 2:17:44 She interviewed me and she said those people don't see themselves as humans so they don't care 1019 2:17:45 --> 2:17:47 if they are posing a threat to humanity. 1020 2:17:50 --> 2:17:50 That's true. 1021 2:17:51 --> 2:17:53 All right Bobo beautifully put. 1022 2:17:53 --> 2:17:58 Steve in the last few questions we've got 10 more minutes Bobo we'll let you go to bed. 1023 2:17:58 --> 2:18:00 And Celia thank you so much for organizing this. 1024 2:18:00 --> 2:18:05 Steven over to you and then we'll go to Tom Rodman video. 1025 2:18:05 --> 2:18:06 Yeah. 1026 2:18:06 --> 2:18:07 Meeting for those with the time. 1027 2:18:08 --> 2:18:13 So Bobo we've been looking so I don't want to mess this presentation. 1028 2:18:14 --> 2:18:18 Up by things I say but we've been looking for some time for someone to. 1029 2:18:19 --> 2:18:26 So we formed this group or I formed this group to with I didn't realize at the time but I came to 1030 2:18:26 --> 2:18:30 realize that the reason I formed it and we got all these different speakers from different 1031 2:18:30 --> 2:18:36 backgrounds was that we needed to understand what had happened in 2020 and what is still happening 1032 2:18:36 --> 2:18:37 now. 1033 2:18:37 --> 2:18:41 And there was no chance we were ever going to do that if we didn't speak to as many different 1034 2:18:41 --> 2:18:47 people as possible because that's how we understand things as human beings. 1035 2:18:47 --> 2:18:52 I now realize so I didn't know that when I formed the group but I knew that I had to do it. 1036 2:18:52 --> 2:18:55 So I can tell you about that another time because I don't want to miss. 1037 2:18:56 --> 2:19:02 I don't want to make this that's about me but listening to you talking to in answer to Peter 1038 2:19:02 --> 2:19:15 Huguet's question you clearly articulated a strategy in your mind and I don't understand 1039 2:19:15 --> 2:19:16 how you've managed it really. 1040 2:19:17 --> 2:19:23 So one of the problems has been that we I felt that we've been getting closer and closer to 1041 2:19:23 --> 2:19:27 the truth you know obviously we'll never achieve the truth because we're mere human beings but 1042 2:19:28 --> 2:19:33 but we can get closer and closer and I think we're getting to the stage now where you know 1043 2:19:34 --> 2:19:40 three months ago my opinion about what was happening is happening hasn't changed much 1044 2:19:41 --> 2:19:47 from you know now my opinion about what is happening hasn't changed much from three months 1045 2:19:47 --> 2:19:55 ago or even six months ago but in 2020 and 2021 it was changing almost daily it was like you know 1046 2:19:55 --> 2:20:02 certainly weekly and you were struggling to kind of it's a bit like the Democrats you know in 1047 2:20:02 --> 2:20:12 America now when Trump hits the road running after four years of plotting against the Democrats 1048 2:20:12 --> 2:20:19 and whomever and they are overwhelmed by all these executive orders you know the Democrats 1049 2:20:19 --> 2:20:25 so actually they can't even answer one never mind all of them and that was the idea of course so 1050 2:20:25 --> 2:20:31 so I think that some that now things are settling down but the problem has been 1051 2:20:32 --> 2:20:40 I've been thinking we need someone who has an ability to articulate what has happened 1052 2:20:40 --> 2:20:48 and I think you may be the closest thing to that I'm not kind of trying to big you up it's just that 1053 2:20:48 --> 2:20:55 you like all of us you know we were playing roles in all this you know but we didn't really know 1054 2:20:55 --> 2:21:01 what was going on and when empires fall they fall because we don't understand why they fall and even 1055 2:21:01 --> 2:21:08 when they have fallen and so I just wonder whether you think in your mind because I sometimes 1056 2:21:08 --> 2:21:15 notice that you are very confident but you're justifiably confident because you kind of 1057 2:21:15 --> 2:21:19 war game everything in your mind you know you can't think of everything obviously 1058 2:21:19 --> 2:21:25 but we'll we'll try and help you in the future do you think yes do you think in the end that 1059 2:21:25 --> 2:21:31 you might be able to articulate the evil of what happened in 2020 and is continuing now 1060 2:21:32 --> 2:21:42 yes I think so yes because since I was a child I've had many special experiments 1061 2:21:43 --> 2:21:52 and I've always felt that there are many dimensions and that what we are experienced 1062 2:21:52 --> 2:22:03 what we are experiencing is all about the inside the inside is everything our perception is what 1063 2:22:03 --> 2:22:15 there is and I've also studied the bible and before Nicholas got ill I was very intensively 1064 2:22:15 --> 2:22:25 studying the bible for some reason I've worked in the spiritual business a little bit 1065 2:22:26 --> 2:22:35 I was very satisfied with having clients as a psychic medium and it wasn't very satisfying 1066 2:22:35 --> 2:22:44 for me because I didn't feel that my clients were often a little bit hysterical and I didn't feel 1067 2:22:44 --> 2:22:52 them I didn't always feel that I that they wanted what they needed 1068 2:22:55 --> 2:23:04 they wanted to relate to their guides they wanted to share they wanted to communicate with dead 1069 2:23:04 --> 2:23:11 people that I saw were clearly not able to communicate sometimes I saw dead people sitting 1070 2:23:11 --> 2:23:24 in their car totally confused you know there was no point of communicating with them and 1071 2:23:26 --> 2:23:37 I felt more and more that they have to understand something deeper and beyond the words of the bible 1072 2:23:38 --> 2:23:46 and I'm talking about the first books the genesis and I'm talking about also 1073 2:23:48 --> 2:23:53 the revelation there is a war mentioned 1074 2:23:56 --> 2:24:06 in the heavens and there is an uprising mentioned and beyond all those words 1075 2:24:08 --> 2:24:15 beyond those words that are colored by historical context and so on and people's 1076 2:24:16 --> 2:24:23 beliefs and all there is something happening that has to do with 1077 2:24:23 --> 2:24:37 with wrong groups wanting to be in charge absolutely and those wrong groups that want to be in charge 1078 2:24:38 --> 2:24:47 is clearly from the bible and I it's not actually actually it's not only the bible because we can 1079 2:24:47 --> 2:24:57 go back to Sumeria and their myths and we can also look in the book of Enoch that is a book 1080 2:24:59 --> 2:25:07 treasured by the jews you know so it's not a christian book I mean obviously the book of 1081 2:25:07 --> 2:25:15 Enoch the book of Enoch is from 300 years before Christ and in the book of Enoch this war is also 1082 2:25:15 --> 2:25:22 mentioned and in the Sumerian myths that is a couple of thousand years before the book of Enoch 1083 2:25:23 --> 2:25:33 this war is also mentioned and it's a war between species that created humanity and 1084 2:25:33 --> 2:25:46 and those are divided so one group wants us to have a free will and to explore and develop as 1085 2:25:49 --> 2:25:58 yeah as it's as we're supposed to and to be creative and to overcome our duality and to 1086 2:25:58 --> 2:26:04 overcome conflicts and to overcome fear as you were talking about earlier Charles and 1087 2:26:06 --> 2:26:17 and to overcome our spiritual weaknesses so one group of gods one group of creators want 1088 2:26:17 --> 2:26:23 the best for us and another group wants to need to 1089 2:26:28 --> 2:26:31 destroy us to erase us 1090 2:26:34 --> 2:26:41 yes that is my conclusion so um I would just want to say this Charles um so Bobo I think you're 1091 2:26:41 --> 2:26:47 uh you know you were described as I think in that book title as the worst internet 1092 2:26:47 --> 2:26:55 troller in Sweden yes but paradoxically or surprisingly maybe to some people anyway 1093 2:26:56 --> 2:27:04 that trolling is actually helping you in in in in your articulation of what we're up against and 1094 2:27:04 --> 2:27:09 what you described so well to to Peter Huger would you agree with that or not 1095 2:27:09 --> 2:27:18 yeah it was never for me as I said it was some kind of experimenting with discourses and narratives 1096 2:27:18 --> 2:27:28 and and uh how to make people 1097 2:27:28 --> 2:27:29 make people 1098 2:27:32 --> 2:27:40 I was interested in if I could create some kind of insecurity in very 1099 2:27:42 --> 2:27:49 statical views and perspectives because what's interesting is that and this is actually important 1100 2:27:50 --> 2:28:03 we have a possibility right now to make people turn their political and financial leaders 1101 2:28:04 --> 2:28:04 their backs 1102 2:28:07 --> 2:28:08 en masse 1103 2:28:10 --> 2:28:19 we can make millions billions of people turn their leaders and the system their back 1104 2:28:20 --> 2:28:31 and stretch their hands to one another that's all we have to do actually to move humanity forward 1105 2:28:31 --> 2:28:39 to make people be more solidaric in their everyday life yeah yes of course it's very 1106 2:28:42 --> 2:28:48 to feel solidarity with other human beings if all the while other human beings are creating 1107 2:28:48 --> 2:28:55 tensions between human beings in other words causing division so um but having said that 1108 2:28:55 --> 2:29:00 we don't agree with each other too much either I just wanted one last thing so do you think to 1109 2:29:00 --> 2:29:07 really understand something very difficult to understand but would would you do you do you 1110 2:29:07 --> 2:29:12 agree that it's possible that we have to have an intuitive understanding and a lot of people say 1111 2:29:12 --> 2:29:18 oh it's all about the logic um they say for example they say Trump who was wrong about this 1112 2:29:18 --> 2:29:24 and wrong about that you know and I say I say but it doesn't matter whether he was wrong about this 1113 2:29:24 --> 2:29:31 and that people want to believe him anyway people on our side you know want to believe him anyway 1114 2:29:31 --> 2:29:37 so they just go along with the feeling come on that's with the intuitive understanding 1115 2:29:37 --> 2:29:44 why would you interrupt there I don't understand I guess you've heard about oh time why are we 1116 2:29:44 --> 2:29:51 correct time okay because people have lives to live sorry but I will answer I will answer 1117 2:29:51 --> 2:30:01 brief briefly I guess you all know about the German old tale about a man that comes to a village 1118 2:30:01 --> 2:30:09 in Hamlen and as I recall it the people wants him to get rid of the rats right 1119 2:30:09 --> 2:30:14 but there's something I'm sorry I can't recall all of it but I heard it as a child and 1120 2:30:16 --> 2:30:24 they don't pay him as I recall it they don't pay him and he gets he gets vengeful so he uses his 1121 2:30:24 --> 2:30:35 technique to lure the children of the village away from the village and they never they are never 1122 2:30:36 --> 2:30:41 seen again the children are taken from their parents 1123 2:30:43 --> 2:30:54 a tone is used he's using a flute to do it it's the same principle as in Mozart's 1124 2:30:55 --> 2:31:02 opera the magic flute the magic flute it's a tone he uses a tone 1125 2:31:02 --> 2:31:13 and there are certain tones that can be used both to save people and to exterminate them 1126 2:31:14 --> 2:31:23 and I think that is very important with Trump that he is using the magic flute to do it 1127 2:31:24 --> 2:31:31 to evoke something in the people that is that is potentially very very dangerous 1128 2:31:32 --> 2:31:39 Carl Gustav Jung he spoke it before Hitler and he spoke about 1129 2:31:41 --> 2:31:48 the death of the German Emperor in the war and he spoke about the death of the German Emperor 1130 2:31:49 --> 2:31:51 Hitler and he spoke about 1131 2:31:53 --> 2:32:05 Wotan an old ancient Nordic god an aspect of Odin so he said the Nazis were going to evoke 1132 2:32:05 --> 2:32:15 something really terrible a shadow in the German people and there are large amounts of energy hidden 1133 2:32:16 --> 2:32:26 in ordinary people that the right flute can awake but what is interesting with Trump is that he's 1134 2:32:26 --> 2:32:41 also soothing comforting guiding and kind of amusing people so I think he's absolutely not 1135 2:32:41 --> 2:32:50 think he's a new Hitler I think he is using the flow I think he's using his flute in a very 1136 2:32:50 --> 2:32:57 interesting way but I think the last thing I will say is that this is not enough 1137 2:32:59 --> 2:33:06 we have to compensate in the states as well as in Europe and everywhere in the world we will have to 1138 2:33:06 --> 2:33:15 compensate the breakdown of the financial elite the breakdown of globalism the breakdown of all 1139 2:33:15 --> 2:33:25 this terrible stuff is not enough something has to be compensated in everyday life it's a new 1140 2:33:25 --> 2:33:32 cult as I said it's a new culture without central power needed and that is so we will have to 1141 2:33:33 --> 2:33:39 we will need many many flutes absolutely so that's brilliant all right thank you so much 1142 2:33:40 --> 2:33:47 thank you Bobo thank you Silvia thank you everybody thank you with the time we will be in touch 1143 2:33:47 --> 2:33:54 thank you everybody for being here bye bye thank you thank you