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So everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and today's discussion

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this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost.

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Over three years ago with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health,

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Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower

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and activist. His medical specialty is radiology. We think about all people who are being punished

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for their fight for freedom, including Rainer Formick who's in jail in Germany unlawfully.

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And there was a big Astrid Stuckleburger was talking at Geneva outside the UN supporting Rainer,

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all of us who are interested, please take an interest in Rainer Formick and his wife Inka.

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And we have to shine a light on Rainer's plight and other freedom warriors. I'm Charles Kovace,

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moderator of this group. I'm in Australia, in Melbourne, Australia.

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I've practiced law for 20 years and 31 years ago I changed Korea to become Australasia's

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passion provocateur. We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world.

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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay. Now many of us proudly say we are passionate anti-vaxxers

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as we've had numerous experts come onto these into these meetings and tell us and the recordings

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are available. There's never been a proper safety and efficacy test on any vaccine ever given to

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humanity. If this is your first time here, welcome. Feel free to introduce yourself in the chat and

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where you're from. If you publish a newsletter or a podcast or you have a radio or TV show or you've

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written a book, put the links in the chat so we can follow you, promote you and find you. That includes

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you, Jim and Celia. Celia put your substack link in there and Jim and put it through in there a

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couple of times because people come a bit later into the meeting. Most of us understand we're

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in the middle of World War Three and that the medical science battle is only one of 12 battlefields

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of this latest world war. There's no time to be tied. We're four years into what I consider to be

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a seven-year war. We're over halfway but three years to go so no telling yourself I'm sick of this war.

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Most of us understand the development of science and that the science is never settled.

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Some of us believe that viruses exist. Some of us believe that viruses are a hoax.

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Some of us are on the fence and many of us consider that having a debate on that issue

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distracts us from the core attacks on our freedoms and our rights. This meeting runs for two and a

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half hours after which for those with the time there may or may not today be a video telegram

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meeting. Tom Rodman won't be with us today. Gary Hawkins may well organise that. We will listen to

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our guest presenters Dr James Thorpe and Celia Farber. We'll talk to James as Jim for as long

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they wish to speak and the order in which they've decided to speak about a new book that

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they have put together. Then we have Q&A. Stephen Frost, by a long established tradition,

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asked the first question for 15 minutes. There's a free speech environment. If you're offended by

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anything be offended. We're lovingly not interested. We reject the offence industry that requires

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nobody to say anything that may offend. In other words, we come with an attitude and perspective

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of love, not fear. Fear is the opposite of love. Fear squashes you. Love on the other hand

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expands you. The great challenge with love is to love those who have different opinions to you.

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Big challenge. These twice weekly meetings are not just talk fests. An extraordinary range of

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actions and initiatives have been generated from linkages made by attendees in these meetings.

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If you have a solution or product or links or resources that will help people put the

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details into the chat, the meeting is recorded and uploaded onto the Rumble channel. Now welcome to

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our guest presenters Celia Farber and Jim Thorpe. We thank both of you so much for sharing your

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genius and wisdom with us. I want to do a quick, for the purposes of the recording, I want to do a quick

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background on both of you and I think the easiest way to do that is summarise your bias for those

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who haven't received the invitation to the meeting. Celia Farber calls herself a war correspondent

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and the main war she's lived through and covered in detail between 1987 and 2008,

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21 years was the HIV war. She wrote exposé pieces about Anthony Fauci's HIV tyranny and how it

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demolished true biology and science in America in both in spin and later harpers. She was targeted

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by numerous vicious discrediting campaigns. Her work rose to prominence again in 2020 as COVID was

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understood to have been modeled on the terror and fake science. She and others documented in AIDS.

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She considers herself now a historian of HIV AIDS descent. In 2021 her work was heavily cited

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in Bobby Kennedy's book The Real Anthony Fauci and Bobby has spoken to this group, his recording is

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available and Celia featured also in a documentary of the same name in March 2023. Chelsea Green reissued

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her stillborn 2006 book Serious Adverse Events An Uncensored History of AIDS.

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Celia was born in New York City, raised in Sweden, she's the daughter of the late radio legend Barry

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Farber. He gave her her favourite journalistic imperative motto, penetrate the ostensible.

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I love it, penetrate the ostensible. Her undergrad degree at New York Uni's skeleton division was in

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classic literature. She's written articles on many subjects in many outlets. In 2008 she was the

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recipient with Peter Juesberg of the Semmelweis Society of Clean Hands Award for Investigative

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Journalism from the Semmelweis Society International. That society was so besieged by protests from paid

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AIDS professionals it led to years of litigation and SSI had to close its doors.

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For those who have never heard of Ignaz Semmelweis take a look, Hungarian

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doctor of the middle mid-19th century who was harassed for speaking the truth

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and died very young. Celia writes a popular substack called the truth barrier.

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Jim Thorpe is a board certified obstetrician, gynaecologist and maternal fetal medicine

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physician with over 44 years of obstetrical experience. He is married to a wonderful legal

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practitioner. So Jim I like your connection to the law there. Jim Thorpe has seen over 27,500

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high risk pregnancies in the last four and a half years while serving one of the largest

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Catholic healthcare systems SSM Health of St Louis. SSM Health fired him for no cause. In 2023 it was

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subsequently proven that SSM Health received $26 million from HHS CDC COVID funding and likely

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captured by the covenant with death contract with HHS. Home and what is it? Home and homeland and

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something HHS Jim? SSM Health, sisters of St Mary's Health, about a 10 billion dollar Catholic

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hospital system, one of the largest in the United States of America and just for a matter of record

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they took 307 million dollars from the Department of Health and Human Services in early 2021.

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How much is that number? 107 million.

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307 million dollars. 307 million health and human services there you are everybody in the CDC.

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Charles a third of a billion almost. A billion US dollars real money, well used to be anyway.

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Jim Thorpe declined a very large sum of money for a termination agreement.

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James Thorpe is the chief of maternal and prenatal health at the wellness company. He served as a

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reviewer for major medical journals on the board of directors for the society of maternal fetal

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medicine for three years and as an examiner. He served in the US Air Force as obstetrician

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gynaecologist having been awarded a health profession scholarship for his medical

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school education where he received an award for being the top student at Wayne State University.

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He then attended University of Colorado Denver. Jim testified in the US Senate under the Bush

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administration in 2003 for his expertise in treating the fetus as a patient within

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utero therapies and on December 7 2022. Jim Thorpe testified in the Senate with Senator

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Ron Johnson and others while serving as a very busy clinician his entire career. He has also

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been very active in clinical research with 240 publications including 68 COVID related. Jim Thorpe

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published a book last year on the COVID pandemic and his latest book that's available examines

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vaccines in pregnancies which is what we're going to talk about today. So Jim we're jointly produced

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with Celia Farber that's why they're here and so thank you both for being here. Thank you Stephen

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Frost again for creating the group. Over to you Jim and Celia. Well thank you very much for having

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both of us and I really look forward to this interaction. I see many of my friends in the

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audience and I appreciate them. I see Dr. Jerry haven't seen him in a while and I also see my

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friend Dr. Jerome Corsi. Jerome thanks for joining us. He's a wow he's a he's a truther

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and I see my friend Albert Benavides. Welcome Eagle88. Thanks for joining us Albert. Celia it's

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so good to see you and I'm so glad you're safe and sound over on the other side of the pond. So Celia

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why don't you take it away. It's been such an honor and a privilege for me to know you Celia

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and to work with you over the last year and I'm really really excited. I'll tell you what Jim

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first I'll tell you what I'm thinking right now is do you have a possibility of showing our cover?

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Can we show folks our cover or we? Sure I could do that if you want. Why don't you

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why don't you go ahead and start talking and share some of your brilliance. You know

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Celia I just want to say something about Celia. She's one of the most talented writers I've ever

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had the ability to work with and there's two parts of the brain you know you have the

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what is the left side and the right side and there's this structure that connects the two

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sides of the brain. Well Celia and I I'm so honored because she has got all of the one side

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of the brain and I've got a little bit of the other side of the brain and those two parts of

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the brain is connected by a large series of white matter that's called the corpus callosum. So we

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we are working together with another lady who is acting as our corpus callosum in our brain to

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connect our brains and I'm so excited about this endeavor and this new book. I'll look for that

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cover Celia while you take it away. Yes someone else is also trying to find it so thank you.

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Celia I'd just like to say that I agree with you James she is a brilliant writer even her emails

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are interesting. Oh I know I know. So that says a lot. So you bring your emails to life Celia it's

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wonderful to observe this. Well I feel more and more thank you for that. I um Jim is really the

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Jim is the I know we don't really like the word authority especially these days but Jim is the

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the authority here and I am the the scribe. I've I've I've listened to him we've had many many

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many conversations. He's the science the medicine the proof the history the doctor and I am the

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storyteller. So I guess I will I'll give you a little I'll give you the landscape of the book

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and Jim is going to give you the hardcore proof. I was thinking initially that we would do it the

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other way around but that's fine we'll do it this way. I will I don't have a prepared talk but I've

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had many many years to think about this. This is actually a culmination when I started working

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with Jim on this book about almost a year ago now. As I was working on it I realized as we were

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working I realized that this is a theme a late motif and obsession also with my my old enemy

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AIDS Inc our old enemy. They were also obsessed with as obsessed is a the term correct word that

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Naomi Wolf always uses when she says they are obsessed with targeting reproduction

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and they were also obsessed with targeting reproduction during the HIV AIDS epoch.

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They actually Jim and I have been back and forth okay let me pause for a second and just name our

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title so I give us a little bit of an anchor. I don't know if we have the image. Yes we do.

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Someone it's been Celia it's been posted into the chat. It's buyable but it's not finished

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yet. I have one more I have four interviews still to transcribe and about one more week of

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final sections and we can't say exactly what the pub date is but it's very close to finished

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and we really appreciate being able to come on here and talk about it. This is the first time

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we've done so there it is sacrifice how the deadliest vaccine in history targeted the most

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vulnerable and Jim I just want has been so generous with me that he always said I'm

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I'm not going to let you be a ghostwriter you're going to be a co-author

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but I always have this impulse to say I'm just describing what he actually knows but okay you

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get that. We'll hear from Jim shortly. So I feel first of all that this part of the horror

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the horror we're in the horror that brings us all together how we we cling together right and we

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survive it somehow but the part of the horror that is what they've done to mothers and babies is

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taboo and quieted down even within the most robust parts of the medical freedom movement.

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I don't think that's a deliberate slight against women and babies but I've noticed it

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and maybe it's because as I experience myself it is simply so this is probably as painful as

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anything in this story gets. We got toward the end of our manuscript in recent weeks

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and we were talking back and forth Jim and I and our wonderful editor Ann

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and you know we were saying it's it's just death death death death and it's it's so sad and it's

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so incredibly difficult to to fathom and the brain just wants to shut down even I the co-author of

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the book sometimes I I just don't know what to do with the emotions that come up this is so so so

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evil. We did manage to get so we said we have to we have to look for some light some rays of hope

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and we did actually find it. Our most of you probably know the amazing whistleblower who

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you came to know as Michelle Gershman whose name is now help me Jim her name is Michelle.

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Spencer. Spencer. She she blew the whistle on she leaked a just mind-blowing email that she got

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on her in her email at work one morning she is out on the west coast at a major hospital where

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she works on a delivery floor as a as a nurse and the memo admitted the the carnage but as is

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characteristic of this this horror and these people driving it it totally obscured the actual

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horror itself and made it all about how do we dispose of the deceased babies there are so many

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and people aren't disposing of them correctly and you know it's really hard to find the words it

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gets so so gory so macabre but the memo spoke to buckets and salt water and refrigerators and

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you just cannot believe your your ears or your eyes this is this is it's like a desensitization

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syndrome in the United States of America that our book is is about the American story we don't go

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all over the world but this the story is playing out all over the world so Michelle Gershman was

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seeing every day she came to work so many they were both they were stillborn or they died just

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before birth Jim will give us the definitions of what is this what is a stillbirth and what is a

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fetal death and what is a miscarriage but you get the idea just a huge rise and she said and and she

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couldn't talk to anybody what is happening and this is a story we've heard from many of our people in

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the book that nobody will speak to it nobody will cry or make a sound or say anything or react

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so the whole thing is playing out on this this landscape of like like some kind of sci-fi movie

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where nobody will give words to what is happening and that's I so appreciate when you when you

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tell me that my words are reaching you because I do feel that words words words are the beginning

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of freedom the beginning of of clarity and truth and they did so much of what they did with black

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magic word use and so I believe very much in the power of the right words chosen to describe

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something that when we have the right words we can finally feel it and and face it and confront it

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and what we are depicting in this book is a

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a horror that actually actually dwarfs what most people know as the great horror of

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maternal fetal history which is thalidomide

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totally dwarfs it I did write a whole chapter about thalidomide I became very very

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interested in the the deep forensic history of thalidomide to see to do a sort of compare and

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contrast things have gotten much worse since then in thalidomide there actually was a criminal

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trial in Germany I don't know if many of you know that but with you folks you probably all know that

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the company that made thalidomide chemigrunenthal post-war German company

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people with high ranking former Nazis that company to this day is a very successful huge

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pharmaceutical company it took them 50 years to formally apologize to the victims and nobody

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contests thalidomide being the cause of thalidomide deformities and deaths

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but now I finally figured out how they have used thalidomide to

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it's so evil to obscure and distort what's happening now with the mass deaths

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of babies both unborn and born whose mothers have taken the COVID shots

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the way they did that was the sort of well we all we know that we know what we mean when we say a

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PsiOp so the PsiOp after thalidomide has been that oh thanks to thalidomide the world woke up and we

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and of course totally heroic Francis Kelsey at the United States FDA who stopped it at the end

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of the world who stopped it in the states quite rightly got all kinds of awards and distinctions

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from then president John F. Kennedy there were congressional laws that came came that were written

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and and the the big idea was now we really have to have proper testing in general and we have to

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have proper testing in general and of course for anything given to pregnant women so that is what

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most people believe that there was this moment of catastrophe and after that we all learned our

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lesson and now we're in this well-lit safe place where nothing like that can happen again

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nothing could be farther from the truth one thing that Jim always hammered home from our very first

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discussions was he uses the phrase the golden rule the golden rule of obstetrical medicine we

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all know it give absolutely no untested substance to a pregnant woman ever ever ever so how did they

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do it how did they break down every wall prohibition taboo everything they did it with a colossal

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a tidal wave of money a tidal wave of money that primarily comes straight down on the three

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and this is the work of Jim and his wife Maggie who through who through rigorous FOIA requests

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found out what exactly had gone down transaction wise between the Department of Defense the US

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Government and the pillars of maternal fetal medicine and I'm getting into Jim terrain here

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I want he'll do much more justice to this they that's a bog a cog let me spell them out the

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association sorry help me Jim a bog a American American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology

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a bog the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists a cog and the Society for

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Maternal Fetal Medicine SMFM thank you I'll get it I'll get it one day right so those three they're

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supposed to be the sort of guardian saints at the gate that that protect catastrophes like Philanmide

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from hack me and they they weigh in on what you know everything for everything pertaining

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to pregnancy and safety and and they not just weigh in they are the the very arbiter so when

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this happened they were we found a hockey stick and the hockey stick was pretty I guess I would

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say low conservative funding for these organizations and then all of a sudden you see it actually

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started in 2019 and the hockey stick goes like that I don't have the exact numbers but you know

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just tens of millions crashed down on these organizations all of a sudden they are just

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singing the mantra and they have changed their and their and they're not just advising pregnant

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women all pregnant women to take the covid shots plural throughout pregnancy from it from and of

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course we know Rachel what is her name? Wolinski. Thank you. There is no bad time I mean this utter

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madness to take a covid shot so those organizations what they put in place was something so evil that

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that not only did that so as Jim has pointed out many times that the relationship between your ob-gyn

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pregnant women that is a trusted it's a it's a there's no women don't go into that relationship

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thinking they have any reason not to trust that doctor speaking to them so once they penetrated

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there they had already won the game because most women like I say had no no reason to distrust it

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no reason to go home and research it we're told it was absolutely safe and absolutely effective

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now let me let me toss it back to thalidomide for a moment they also part of the advertising

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campaign for thalidomide was that it was you know wasn't just safe it was like ridiculously safe it

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was so safe there was nothing safer had ever been given to pregnant they're so so so safe

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thalidomide and the marketing of thalidomide had been because women had had babies had children

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small children had gotten into their mother's I guess quail ouds and various tranquilizers that

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were going around at the time and so that became a media story so the the advertising agencies

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pushing at working for the drug companies and the distributors they all got together and their

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campaign was thalidomide is the thalidomide will save your child from dying of an overdose of

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quail ouds I kid you not that was part of the marketing campaign so I spent a lot of time

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rooting around in this and I see all the themes but they were much more crude back then and they're

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much more sophisticated now so the book has essentially two halves and one half is

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essentially Celia and one half is essentially Jim the Celia side is where I'm telling stories

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from real people and it's it's mothers who have suffered losses it's we have a param a paramedic

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you may know him Harry Fisher we have whistleblowers we have oh there's also a lot of

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a lot of voices that I pulled from from social media one of the places where you really see

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the truth of this story is actually in comment sections which I know scientists just shudder to

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think that comment sections on social media is where anybody would find a scientific truth

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but this thing is so impossible to bottle and capture in a net and quantify and prove you can't

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get statistics for fatal deaths in the United States comparing you can't get it in the UK

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comparing for example 2020 2021 2022 you just can't get them so the story is

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the story is very obscured and I think that the enemy is very sensitive about this story coming out

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I don't I think we're going to have a rough time of it when the book comes out but we will buckle up

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Jim and Naomi Wolf have done a tremendous job I think many people are prepared for a lot of

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what's in the book not for everything that's in the book I guess I'll just say a few things about

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a ray of hope because I really believe we need we need as we fight we need to believe that there is

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some light at the end of the tunnel Michelle did tell us in a an interview we did just about a week

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ago that she's she's seeing a far fewer dead babies now than say a year ago and two years ago

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so she said it had slowed way down and I felt like oh thank god and I can I need to tell people that

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because there comes a point where it's just too much even even for us right there has to be

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in god's universe that that I believe that the even the poisons are like this is just my point

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of view god is working so hard on this and women are women have lost numerous pregnancies we

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interviewed the grandparents of a um so their daughter-in-law had lost eight not just eight

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pregnancies in all trimesters including several of them second and third trimester one of them

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the most recent was full term since she took the shots in 2021 so this is not trivial the tricky

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thing is there are also parts of the field where you hardly see it at all so it's I I hope Jim will

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address and I don't have the answer to why were so many children born seemingly okay and so many

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met instead this catastrophe I don't understand it but I'd like Jim to address that and basically

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I just want to say I feel that this part of our of our war um as Naomi Wolf says as Jim says it has

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something it has something about it that goes beyond even everything else and of course they

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want to kill they want to kill they want to kill they want to kill life they want to destroy

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life we know that but this it represents something

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extra-dimensional to these people and it represents

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for me my interpretation is that it's it's a sort of satanic idea that what I will call God's plan

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and creation is nothing unless and until they get in there with their high-tech poisons and fix it

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right and really nothing could be more more satanic or evil um but that that's the point

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um but that that was also their obsession during the during the AIDS thing of course they wanted

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they the drugs mostly hit and mostly killed sexually active gay men AZT killed some 300 000

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but in the early 90s I started to notice as a reporter covering AIDS they really wanted to

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target pregnant women they really wanted pregnant women now pregnancy in HIV AIDS was one of the

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ways that people could test what we call false positive for what we call HIV so just being pregnant

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could very easily trigger a positive HIV test so they had this drive that in the beginning they

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told all pregnant women get tested get tested get tested if you test positive abort abort abort

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so there were lots of abortions for wanted children because the and this was on shows like

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I remember Montel Williams and shows like that they were saying similar to Zika if you guys

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remember Zika they told women all over especially Latin America that they should just have abortions

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and they and they did you know so they're always coming out with this there's this terrible thing

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and you may as well have an abortion so that's usually the first part of the op

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um what they did with HIV AIDS was it's it's so it's so shocking I will I will never get used to

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this but they they broke and I've told Jim this and he actually wasn't aware of this but they this

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wall that he speaks of the the golden rule that we all thought was there after thalidomide was

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broken down by AIDS I don't want to call them AIDS Inc I need a better term well the AIDS cabal

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well the AIDS cabal in 1994 they achieved a victory which was they came up with a totally

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as all their studies false corrupt study called ACTG 076 and they claimed it proved that women

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who uh took AZT AZT a teratogen mutagen carcinogen throughout gestation had a much better chance like

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50 percent better chance of not giving birth to an HIV positive baby and this actually flew and it

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was in all the papers and cover of New York Times and it was the big victory and because HIV had

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that branding like it was so deadly and new and deadly and horrible so nobody at the time thought

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to go up against the HIV op like should you really be giving you know Drano

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to pregnant women the the spell was so thick in those days that the baby the everybody you know

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HIV just meant instant death so the important thing is to realize and even after what is it 37

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years in this field or maybe it's more than that I still make the mistake of trying to understand

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how they're thinking they're not trying to understand what they what they could possibly

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mean or think trying to give them some kind of benefit of the doubt that is a huge mistake

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they they write these colossal dark evil deadly spells and they write them in accordance with

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human psychology and a mother's psychology is a very easy easy target all you have to do is tell

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an expecting mother if you don't do this your baby is at risk and she will do what you're telling

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her to do unless she has some very fortunate reason to know otherwise so I'll kind of wrap

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it there and hand it over to Jim I'm really happy that you're able to be with us and talk

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about this and we we will need you we'll need your support when the book comes out

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and I I think I have a lot more to say but I'll leave it for the question

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question and answer session thank you thanks Celia thank you Celia Jim over to you

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yeah thank you very much Celia that was awesome it was early 2020

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yeah you know I've had 45 years of clinical experience now 45 years this month 45 years

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of obstetrical experience and Celia writes about this so eloquently I think I mentioned to her

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that my dear god in heaven I felt like I was somewhere in the twilight zone because how did

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this all come about you know I have been using hydroxychloroquine in pregnancy for 40 years

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it's been used since the Inca Indians in the mid 1600s as a stalwart powerful therapeutic

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the Jesuits capitalized on that when they were evangelizing in South America and you know

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hydroxychloroquine has been used in every single war since then including the Revolutionary War

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the Civil War World War I and World War II Vietnam it's been very very safe and effective why did I

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use it in pregnancy well because of the fact that pregnant women and women are pregnant and

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because of the fact that pregnant women and women of reproductive age have a very high incidence of

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autoimmune disease probably vaccine induced prior to the COVID vaccine the childhood vaccine schedules

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and such yeah so we and rheumatologists family practice internal medicine you know that was our

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stalwart of therapy hydroxychloroquine and when these women of reproductive age became pregnant

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we didn't take them off it was safe in the first trimester second trimester third trimester

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and even in in postpartum breastfeeding and even in children and the so all of a sudden now people

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people just I don't understand I told Celia I feel like I was in the Twilight Zone

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and then she brought this she's such a gifted author I just love her writing style and this

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book would have been just a worthless without her really because she just wove it together and all

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of a sudden she comes up with this prose of out of the the obsolete man out of Rod Sterling's

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Twilight Zone right and and that was me because they they I knew they were coming after the women

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and I the pharmacies were coming after me I I worked locally here taking not only was I seeing

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you know 27,800 high-risk obese for in the last four and a half years but when I wasn't working

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and that was through telemedicine and SSM health in St. Louis also Washington University is part

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of that system and but I worked with a couple of docs one special doc here Dr. Deb Viglione a

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freedom fighter and she and I treated a lot of really sick patients because none of the other

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doctors would see him you know they were all scared so we saw a lot of sick patients a lot of

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military veterans and so on and so forth but so I became just couldn't understand why all of a

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sudden they were villainizing hydroxychloroquine and then they did the same thing with ivermectin

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and why they were making ridiculous statements like okay just go home there's no early treatment

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well that flies in the face of six millennia it's six millennia of known fact that the earlier you

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treat any disease the better the outcome is so I was afraid that we were being targeted I was very

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concerned and then as 2020 came up was and they were going to wrap out this mRNA vaccine I was

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scared to death I had planned a gold standard of a study that would have required it was a randomized

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double-blind placebo control trial would have been 35,000 patients in the vaccine group and 35,000

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patients in the placebo group that's how many patients it would have taken because my end point

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was an increase in death rate from from one in 10,000 to four and 10,000 over a 10-year period

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anyways there would be would have been an interim analysis every year by an independent group

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so that if there was a benefit or a danger it would have immediately been stopped

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obviously because it would have been unethical to continue but the unblinding wouldn't have been

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performed for 10 years if there was no significant effect with long-term outcome right so that was

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summarily rejected by the way I wasn't the only one that did my individual plans my friend Dr.

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Steve Hatfield who was in the White House at the time Dr. Hatfield is a genius he was a he was a

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veteran like I am military veteran and he was in the White House war room you know and he and

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Peter Navarro and and President Trump at the time they amassed 62 million doses of hydroxychloroquine

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until they got stabbed in the back had they treated the American people with that

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the pandemic would have ended in August of that year it would have ended but instead of it was

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villainized by the fraudulent Lancet Journal article Dr. Mandeep Mehra of Harvard University

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cardiologist and by the way that was ghostwritten by probably ghostwritten by Pfizer that article

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that he published it was completely fraudulent as was the New England Journal of Medicine article

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not quite a year and a month later by Shimabukuro pushing it in pregnancy as safe effective and

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necessary so anyways we proceeded in that year and sure enough in 2021 we were saying oh we're

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not going to use it in pregnant women we're not going to mandate it if pregnant women want to take

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it fine and then within a matter of nine months nine months on September 27th 2021 the chief

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executive director of the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology my colleague my

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contemporary right I was an examiner with him with that board during the 90s right and he comes out

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and has the American College of Obstetricians the American Board of Medical Specialties

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the Federation of State Medical Boards the American Board of Medical Specialties and the Society for

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Maternal Fetal Medicine all invoked in this sloppy poorly written one-page threat that amassed and

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went out to every single 60,000 ob-gyn physicians not only in the United States of America all six

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provinces of Canada and some countries in South America and under without any well there were some

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references which I'll make light of it was basically a one-page threat don't you dare

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deviate from our narrative don't you dare deviate or we will strip you of your medical licensure

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and all of your board certifications which I worked my whole life to get right and so did other

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younger doctors so at about that time I was outraged and I started I duplicated their

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their insignias and put a red hammer and sickle and in it and floated it all over the internet and I

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guess that upset Dr. Wendell and he got a hold of me and threatened me again said did you really do

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this I said yeah yeah I did I did do it why are you pushing this this is outrageous threaten me

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again so in early 2022 I wrote a 98 page letter which anybody can pull up right now it's been on

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the internet since just google or duck duck go search engine James A. Thorpe open letter to the

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American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology and that 98 page letter included all of my extensive

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analytics from the government database some visor data right and also multiple other pieces of data

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and if that weren't enough it included 1019 references of journal articles peer-reviewed

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medical journal articles that I read I studied I copied every single one of those 1019 references

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in just the first 12 months of the rollout that documented severe injury catastrophic

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complications and deaths 1019 probably probably three or four thousand authors globally that

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risked their life to put their name on that paper and I submitted to Dr. George Wendell the rest of

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the board at the American Board of Obstetrics and Gynecology and it was published over two and a half

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years ago now do you think they responded I wanted to debate them I wanted to debate anybody in the

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world how did you break the golden rule of pregnancy how did 60,000 OBGYN doctors the

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American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists the American Board of OBGYN the Society for

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Maternal Fetal Medicine simultaneously at about the same time use the exact same language you

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will do this or we will strip you I it was total fascism at that point Tom I've never seen anything

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like it in my life so do you think they responded no crickets because they knew they had broken the

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golden rule of pregnancy they knew they were dead wrong and that I was right they knew that I would

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tear them apart in pieces in any type of a debate the one page threat that they sent out and and I

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I call this they reference nothing more than a grocery market tabloid literally a grocery

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market tabloid called med page today it's not peer reviewed it was written by a by by by a lay

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journalist they quote this lay journalist and they're citing a bunch of hearsay from University of

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Alabama Birmingham so we now know that the entire medical complex has been captured I knew at that

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time sorry to interrupt you could you name a few people yeah on board who were supporting the guy

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you were you were you have named uh just for the record yeah for the record Dr Susan Raymond was

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my colleague and she and I have published together earlier in my career Dr uh Dr George Wendell

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W E N D E L L was the uh and he subsequently put his tail between his legs and absconded off into

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obscurity he retired there's a there's a new young uh director now uh and you know I I won't name I

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I won't name any of the others but I will name personally and other organizations here that I

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I hold accountable now you might say to me well Dr Thorpe you're just full of baloney sausage you

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know this is safe and effective look at look at all the journal articles published in the peer

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review journal article saying that it's safe and effective well um you know I will tell you

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that there's only four

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totally irrefutable undeniable evidence four sources of data that can never be ever refuted

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and why is that because they're all open source number one number two all four of those come from

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sources that are heavily biased to pushing the vaccine and and I'll just you know I'll carefully

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go go through those uh each of those four off the top of my head and I don't know if if uh I won't

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share my screen I have them all memorized but you know the first one is the legally mandated

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the legally mandated post-market analysis every device drug vaccine medical device

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when it's rolled out to the public until 90 days it has you have to give a report of all the adverse

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events with that rollout in 12 weeks and submitted to the HHS CDC and FDA okay well that was done but

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it was with with Pfizer it was allegedly from December 1st 2020 to February 28th 2021 uh as a

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matter of fact it really didn't roll out December 1st about two weeks later so it's only 10 weeks of

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data right so on page seven and by the way that document Pfizer 5.3.6 PHMPT

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search engine right now even pulled out page seven this was the deadliest drug it was ever

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rolled out in the history of medicine probably in the history of humanity this is not Peter

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McCullough's data this is not Celia's data you know this is not Albert Benavides data

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this is Pfizer's data and they tried to hide it for 75 years and it's a while they knew that I had

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that data many of you had that data because a whistleblower released it now it wasn't the

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whistleblower released it it was available in spring of 2021 Rochelle Walensky had that of

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course they had that data it was legally mandated for Pfizer to give it to them they received it

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February 28th 2021 right so now Aaron Seary and the informed consent action network

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sued them did a FOIA request they tried to hide it for 75 years federal judge made him release it

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wasn't released until you know about a year later April Fool's Day April 1st 2022 and of course it

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was identical to the document that we knew was verifiable it had Pfizer fingerprints all over

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a year before that was released by the whistleblower so so look at on page seven

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look at up there in the top right hand corner there were 42,086 casualties

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42,086 casualties look at the women to men ratio of those casualties it was about 3.2 or 3.3 I don't

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have the end it with a very tight confidence interval extraordinarily tight women were targeted

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for two reasons and I'll tell you why those two reasons were number one the the government

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did do a lot of due diligence and they did do good research it wasn't in science although they knew

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the science but they did their marketing research and they knew that it's women that make all the

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health care decisions and that transcends color of skin religious ethnicity country of origin

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that's just the way God made men and women different you know I don't make any of my health

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care decisions Maggie makes them all I'm sure the same as a true with the rest of doctor's wives

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that's just the way it is they knew that and hospitals have known that marketers they market

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towards women so that's the number one reason the second reason is contrary to you know probably not

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many amongst us but our liberal friends on the other side and I hate to break this news to you

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but you know men can't get pregnant only women can get pregnant you can either be a male or a

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female you can either be a man and you can't get credit so they wanted to target pregnant women

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okay why because if they targeted pregnant women everybody knows that's the most vulnerable

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population and if they can amass their now what's known to be five trillion dollars spent on the

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sham over the last four years five trillion dollars if they can convince the world that it's

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safe effective and necessary and pregnant women they've won the game everybody else in the world

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should be vaccinated because they're the most vulnerable that's why they went after women

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but also in that 42,086 casualties there were 1,223 dead in just 10 weeks and a huge proportion of

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those died they were otherwise well they died within a couple of days the vaccine okay that's

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uh you know just unheard of you know we 1976 swine flu vaccine I was a second year medical

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student student in Detroit 26 dead from swine flu vaccine immediately removed from the market

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turn of the century rotavirus vaccine no deaths a spate of cases of a minor bowel complication

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called intersusception immediately removed from the market something was different something was

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very very wrong so um and by the way if you analyze from the casualties 42,086 casualties with

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1,223 dead you know and I'm really shocked that nobody else has really made a big deal out of it

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I seem to be the only one screaming about this the injured to kill ratio is 33.4 what does that mean

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that means for every individual killed multiply that and that's how many are injured so for example

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dr daniel ancor says okay there's been 17 million people globally killed almost a year ago far more

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than that multiply that times 33.4 to see how many were injured you get a total of 585 million global

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citizens killed and injured okay it's much more than that now and you know you may say rightfully

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so that okay those that injured to kill ratio you know a lot of those casualties were relatively

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minor maybe but I tell you what is true a huge unprecedented of those cases you know you talk to

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miss brienne dressen who I testified with in the united states senate you talk to dr joel walscock

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with transfer I know orthopedic surgeon who I work with in the front of mine you talk to hundreds of

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others of my friends that have been vaccine injured okay they're severe vaccine injuries you

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know you talk to cody okay the vaccine injured 18 year old young man these are severe injuries

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and some people have made the case that you know the the severe nursery and the the most blessed

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were the individuals that lost their lives not permanently damaged requiring chronic care for

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the rest of their lives certainly that's a huge huge burden on society so it's it's horrible

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so what is a kill ratio injured to kill ratio of 33.4 well let me just tell you what that is okay

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if you take the two atomic weapons dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki there are about 94 000

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injured and about 105 000 killed it's an injured to kill ratio of 0.9 you know if you go to the

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rest of the wars all those injured to kill ratios were only two three four five you know maybe with

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vietnam we got a little bit better on saving lives on battlefield medicine it went up to a few later

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wars maybe up to one of them I saw up to seven but and you you you look at everybody focuses on

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thalidomide and we're going to talk about that book but you know des diethylstobethyrol was

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far worse everybody remembers thalidomide because of those horrible birth defects and

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horrible they were focal milia beautiful sons and daughters of my most high living god

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born with missing extremities and it wasn't just that it was other major health issues

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probably with with with the lid am i you're looking at an injured injured to kill ratio of

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only 0.25 about 20 000 injured maybe about 80 000 killed right by the way one tablet of thalidomide

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one 150 milligram tablet of thalidomide given at the right time in pregnancy

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50 50 that one tablet but des came on long before the scene of thalidomide came on the scene in 1938

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it was marketed to improve pregnancy outcomes it was bloody catastrophic 10 million people in 10

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million people and not only what did we find out from des we found out that it was not just

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god's the sons and daughters of those exposed in their mother's womb it was the grandsons and

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granddaughters and the great-grandsons and the great-granddaughters innumerable a lot more than

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10 million people were affected from that in multiple generations so that it that's this is

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this is horrible stuff um but when you that's the first piece of evidence that's irrefutable

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is phisers own data you know the next piece of evidence that is irrefutable this is absolutely

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irrefutable and this is a study of phisers phase three phase four clinical study this is their own

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phase two phase three clinical study and they knew they tried to suppress this remember i said i

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needed 70 000 patients to do a randomized double-blind placebo controlled trial well you you don't

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know how many you know how many how many patients they had in this pathetic underpowered study this

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is purposeful yeah they had like 150 in each group 150 in the vaccine group 150 pregnant women

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and this was completed in july of 2022 they sat on it for a year until july of 2023 not even a year

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ago 11 months ago and then they leaked it out on this website it was so different i've spent

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uh dozens of hours teasing this data out this is what they found

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those women who are pregnant who are randomized who are randomized to the vaccine group they had a

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100 increase in newborn depression what that means low apgar scores some of the babies requiring

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cardiac resuscitation a breathing tube down their throats okay a lot of them went to the neonatal

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intensive care unit a substantial increase in meconium aspiration and a very dangerous

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meconium is where the baby poops inside the womb it's a green substance when babies get hypoxic

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which they do with the vaccine and they inhale it that's potentially lethal complication 80

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increase in um in in um jaundice congenital birth defects malformations increased by 70

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a specific heart defect a hole in the heart atrial septal defect increased by 220

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percent growth starved fetuses in the womb because of the placental abnormalities

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substantially increased birth defects of the skin substantially increased um specifically

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a congenital nevus uh is a birthmark and also some more significant hemangiomas and then this is a

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worse eighth a birth defect with a significant developmental delay in six months of life now I

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ask you okay that's this is irrefutable data who's talking about this why is it being suppressed

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why are these 60 000 ob-gyn's I guarantee you I guarantee you that any obstetrician if they

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weren't a pathetic bribed mouthpiece for ssm health and Washington University my former hospital

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and every other institution and they weren't a bloody mouthpiece for the fraudulent corrupt

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killers of ACOG and the American college and the American board of ob-gyn the society

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maternal fetal medicine and they weren't a mouthpiece for the federal government

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and if they said to their obstetric the obstetrician said you know Mrs. Smith you know you can take the

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vaccine but here's what Pfizer found in their randomized double-blinded placebo control trial

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and they listed off those eight items that I just mentioned this is fact this is this is

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I've reviewed this data I'll stake my life on it as sure as you're looking at me nobody's talking

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about this not one of those women would have ever taken that vaccine no pregnant woman ever would

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have taken that vaccine so that's a second data piece of data the third piece of data I said there

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were four irrefutable pieces of data sources the second one the the third one was the governmental

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data yeah there may be some names on that article of people that published it like my friend Albert

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Benavides like my friend Dr. Peter McCullough like like counselor Megan Redshaw an attorney like

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Michael Dukovitch PhD like Claire Rogers my one of my co-authors and colleagues and yes I was lead

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author this was published a year ago over a year ago in the journal of the American Association

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of Physicians and Surgeons by the way the most rigorously extensively peer-reviewed paper

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of all my 250 or so ever of any other journal I've ever submitted to but here's the deal

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this data is completely open sourced anybody in the world can get this data our methodologies

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and has anybody refuted anything in that data not a not one iota it's been published now for

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you know whatever 14 months so in contrast to every other publication that is out there and

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there's a lot of them that say it's safe and effective and necessary in pregnancy

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those those data sources are are complete completely closed completely closed and there's

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so many other there's so many other biases to those publications and then the fourth data the

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fourth piece of evidence is a manuscript that is actually in going to be impressed shortly

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and Albert Benavides is a co-author and and we expanded that to the various database

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now we have a much longer period of time we have we have actually 412 months of vaccine

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come in the control group including 40 months of the covid vaccine and we've extended that

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that analysis from not just 18 adverse events that we published last year but 35 adverse events

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okay and these are all compared by the the same methods we used over a year ago and the results

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are horrifying i mean again um standard statistical methods um much worse than what we saw we not only

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compared it to the influenza the covid 19 vaccine to the influenza vaccine but also the covid

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vaccine to all of the other vaccines for 412 months except covid the results are stunning

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they're catastrophic uh you know we're looking at not only pregnancy complications to miscarriage

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chromosomal abnormalities uh fetal death severe fetal growth restrictions severe placental

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abnormalities uh placental calcifications placental infarcts uh placental blood clots

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severe bleeding not only in the mother and at the time of delivery but in the baby

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and then newborn depression um newborn infections uh malformations um newborn seizures um horrible

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complications so so that's the fourth piece of evidence and that will be published shortly now

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in contrast let's just talk about what what how could how can how can these other publications

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come out and say oh it's safe and effective and necessary well it's really really easy you know

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look at look at the i'm reading this right off the website and i've known about this for a year

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but look at the forbes magazine the top 20 universities that really call the shots and by

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the way this is the exact same thing this is right off the pharmaceutical script that they

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did with the litamide with the es they did with they did with the psychotropic drugs too they get

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mouthpieces people that are in these academic positions and they pervert them and corrupt them

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with money listen i i should i can't this has to be a mistake but i'm reading it right off of forbes

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magazine johns hopkins university once again leads all u.s universities and colleges in a total

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nih funding one year one year 842 not million billion dollars and it goes down the list number

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two university california ucsf over 789 billion university of pennsylvania over 703 billion

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university of michigan where i grew up over 698 billion university of pittsburgh 658 billion

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washington university who fired me with ssm health you know i was the most experienced published

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author in the division of maternal fetal medicine they fired me tried to bribe me with 100 000

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dollars right they took over 633 billion from the nih columbia university 633 billion stanford

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university over 628 billion yale university over 622 billion university of california la over 580

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billion i can't believe this in one year university of north carolina chapel hill over 559 billion

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university of washington seattle over 558 billion mount sinai over 501 billion emory university over

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485 billion university of wisconsin madison over 446 billion new york university over 424 billion

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and northwestern university number 20 over 413 billion listen there's hundreds of more that that

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are lesser in value but when you understand that this federal government had an mo that is very

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very sinister you know very very evil this is a depopulation agenda okay this comes straight from

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the cia and the dod all these other people are just greedy uh uh minions they're they're they're

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basically useful idiots that are trying to make some money and are greedy including

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pfizer and maderna you know everybody else is just in it for the money so what are the other obvious

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biases like take for the new england journal medicine and i'll call eric rubin out he's a

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criminal he needs to be destroyed with civil litigation and with criminal litigation he needs

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to go in neurenberg 2.0 eric rubin editor in chief of the new england journal medicine

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that journal has been corrupt for 50 years making money off their people honoring them and worshiping

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them bowing down to their publications when they're nothing more than a corporate kleptocratic

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uh you know money hungry institution along with their uh society in massachusetts there so you

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know this is what they did was to when they pushed this new england journal medicine lead author

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shimabukuro um this again was a ghost written this was ghost written uh i don't like ghost writers

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okay because most of them work for the the pfizer uh and the pharmaceutical industry what they do is

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have they've been doing this for centuries they're masters at masters of deception

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they they wrote this article and it's very hard to see where they lie and cheat unless you really

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have a trained eye there were 21 co-authors on that manuscript 21 they were all federal employees

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shimabukuro himself shimabukuro himself was ahead of the vaccine safety committee for the hhs cdc and

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fda this he was a lead author what these authors did was of course they manipulated the data um but

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let me tell you what i can prove and by the way did you see clare craig and the other experts now

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that have come out we've been saying this for two or three years vaccination status has been totally

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fraudulent nobody tells what is your definition of vaccine status are you vaccinated or not

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well many of these even the federal government they they now clare rogers says that ons has

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admitted that they were calling some people that died that they were calling them unvaccinated they

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were not unvaccinated they were vaccinated there might have been some qualifier in the in the small

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print such as oh they only had their vaccination for two weeks isn't that convenient or oh they

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only had one vaccination oh isn't that convenient they were vaccinated and and so nobody knows what

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the real vaccination the federal our federal government said oh yeah we for purposes of

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efficacy of the vaccine yeah we use two weeks because it takes that much time so so they've

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there's many officials but this oh but that's just limited to efficacy studies don't buy that if you

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if you buy that i got a i got a bridge here that connects gulf reese to pensacola it's a four mile

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bridge i'll sell it to you and give you a good deal so so and all these authors that that publish

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in these departments can you imagine if i'm the chairman if i were chairman of washington university

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which which i should have been because the chairman of that department it will be june wayne was

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uh you know no credibility but i won't mention her name but if i were that chairman

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and i had i fed her all of my publications never once did she debate me never once did she give

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an opportunity for me to do grand rounds i was suppressed and censored so one step further if

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they took that 307 million actually just the hospital remember i told you before that

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saint that's from the federal government there's so many different funding sources

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but washington university st louis my former institution that's 633 billion dollars in a year

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according to this forbes article that i'm looking at right now okay so there's so many different

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levels of money sources but could you imagine if i were chairman and i had um 10 of my ob gyn

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doctors say you know hey dr thorpe um you know the vaccine is dangerous we want your blessing

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to submit this um for publication i couldn't submit that for publication i was the chairman

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of the department and in my department the protocol says that all pregnant women get

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vaccinated i couldn't allow a publication from my department that were saying that the vaccine

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were safe effective and necessary in pregnancy i would say no you're not publishing it you can't

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publish it from this department of course they're doing that and then there's so many other uh

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biases there i i'm going to say just a few other uh a few other um comments here and i wonder if

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i could share my screen yes you can jim is that okay yeah charles yep

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james it's a brilliant presentation

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stephen maybe not you guys yeah i said that yeah i know but you're a co-host you can you can um

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you can share just no dramas can you hear me charles yes you can share i guess i can't hear you

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yeah i'm talking can you hear me

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jim can you hear me i don't have audio oh oh i know why i don't have audio i know

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can you guys hear me yep yes yeah okay i can hear you now good okay so you can share your

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screen no problems just click on share screen yeah i mean

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all right here we go

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i'm getting there bear with me yep i'm not the most why are you doing that jim i just want to say

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well i'll be quiet when it when you call it up on the screen but for claire just to really drive

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home the point the money that you're speaking of and this is you really have the story you and

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maggie of the money it's it's beyond colossal i need a word beyond colossal right and that

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basically is how they did it like not big money not colossal money but something beyond colossal

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money would you agree absolutely can you guys see my screen yes we can yes we can jim and uh cilia

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the the the word you're looking for is from monty python it's a really really really big number

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yeah thank you jose i i want to credit maggie thorpe who's an attorney also has a divinity

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degree but she's done some incredible work in bad faith insurance industry she's a sleuth she's

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a little bit shyer than i am but she's speaking out aggressively and listen we're a dynamic duo

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that is a pretty formidable team she takes the attorney side i take the md side if you go to the

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america out loud just google four letters four words america out loud news and that'll take you

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to that america out loud banner there red white and blue there go all the way over the right side

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and hit menu and go down to the menu and click on authors and hosts and then scroll down and you'll

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see a my wife maggie thorpe jd and a picture of myself and then click on that and that'll take

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you about 16 or 18 of our publications just in his last you know just in as many months i can tell

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you that i i don't the the publish the publications that we have on that platform every single one of

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them has highlighted the government uh the corruption that's going on in the four years like um like no

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other constellation of articles in fact we're we're publishing this in a book a publisher is asked to

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if they could put this together and publish it but you know it it goes on from and i'll close

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the of those 16 articles you'll see that oh in that picture there the cvs and walgreens those

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are the two largest pharmacy retail pharmacies outlet in united states america

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they took billions of dollars in 2021 with the sole purpose of number one and we prove this look

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at the article it's horrible it's stunning the the way that they did it was they

652
1:21:02 --> 1:21:11
they attacked physicians like myself gaslit us um and mocked gaslit and illegally i believe refused

653
1:21:11 --> 1:21:19
to fill scripts for the safe and effective drugs like hydroxychloroquine like ivermectin and others

654
1:21:20 --> 1:21:27
refused and and reported us to our boards and not only did they do that they pushed the vaccine

655
1:21:28 --> 1:21:34
that was their narrative and they pushed the testing which was worthless and they made a bloody

656
1:21:34 --> 1:21:41
fortune off that so this went viral the article you know a couple of months ago focused on all the

657
1:21:41 --> 1:21:48
faiths for vaccine the faith leaders um all over the country came straight from biden's chief of

658
1:21:48 --> 1:21:57
staff jeffrey zianz the then director of the nih francis collins he called himself reverend francis

659
1:21:57 --> 1:22:03
collins purported to be a follower of jesus christ let me tell you something that man's a follower of

660
1:22:03 --> 1:22:10
satan he's satanic and then vivik murthy all of these gathered the faith leaders not just christians

661
1:22:10 --> 1:22:17
but also our islam brothers and sisters muslim our jewish brothers and sisters american native

662
1:22:17 --> 1:22:23
indians and they bribed him and lied to them and they told them to push the vaccine to their

663
1:22:23 --> 1:22:29
congregations you know there's a scripture a sacred scripture out of deuteronomy and many of you may

664
1:22:29 --> 1:22:35
be aware of it they perverted all the scriptures and they used them though this one deuteronomy

665
1:22:35 --> 1:22:42
scripture i can cite it um basically off the top of my head not verbatim but you know i led you

666
1:22:42 --> 1:22:51
through a narrow place a strong right arm reached out and you rose your arms outward

667
1:22:52 --> 1:22:58
do you know how these evil bastards and i i use a biblical term bastards because they are

668
1:22:58 --> 1:23:03
spiritual bastards their father is not god or not the earthly father their father is satan

669
1:23:04 --> 1:23:13
here's what they told these faith leaders what this represents is the narrow place was a pandemic

670
1:23:13 --> 1:23:20
the strong arm was god's hand the strong hand was god's hand holding a syringe and the outstretched

671
1:23:20 --> 1:23:27
arm was the people of the world asking god for the miraculous vaccine and to save their life

672
1:23:28 --> 1:23:34
that's how they interpreted this and many other new testament scriptures same way so and then

673
1:23:34 --> 1:23:46
before that we we published in december on how again all over 420 000 hospital systems in the

674
1:23:46 --> 1:23:52
united states of america were bribed now this is different from the nih money this is totally

675
1:23:52 --> 1:23:58
separate fund okay this is from the provider relief fund so it's totally different there's so

676
1:23:58 --> 1:24:05
many there there may be a hundred or more different funds this is a totally different fund from the

677
1:24:05 --> 1:24:14
cbs and the wall green in the pharmacies and and so from the provider relief fund in december

678
1:24:14 --> 1:24:21
maggie and i published and we have all the verifiable links 186 billion dollars

679
1:24:22 --> 1:24:30
to capture over 420 000 hospital systems including mine that's where ssm health and

680
1:24:30 --> 1:24:39
st louis slu st louis university which is the university they're affiliated with that's exactly

681
1:24:39 --> 1:24:47
how they receive that 307 million dollars so it's it's an abomination and then of course you know

682
1:24:48 --> 1:24:55
a year ago we published in may of 2023 maggie's brilliant targeted foyer request freedom of

683
1:24:55 --> 1:25:05
information act request which proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that hhs and cdc gave millions

684
1:25:05 --> 1:25:11
to the american college of obstetricians and gynecologists just garnering their capture and

685
1:25:11 --> 1:25:19
there was a quid pro quo agreement a if you will a collaborative care agreement in which a cog

686
1:25:20 --> 1:25:27
and none of their constituents were allowed to independently think and to deviate from the lethal

687
1:25:28 --> 1:25:35
hhs so all 60 000 obgyn doctors became mouthpieces for the federal government

688
1:25:36 --> 1:25:42
so that's just four of our articles and every single one is powerful like that and in maggie's

689
1:25:42 --> 1:25:50
typical fashion they're heavily cited you you can't really refute them they're so heavily cited

690
1:25:50 --> 1:25:55
i i've been blabbing on and on for too much but i really appreciate

691
1:25:56 --> 1:26:05
your patience with my verbose and lengthy chit chat here thank you jim jim thank you so much

692
1:26:06 --> 1:26:10
thank you cilia so much for sharing brilliantly one question before steven starts

693
1:26:11 --> 1:26:20
for the next series of questions is there a chart to take steven's point of evildoers in the book

694
1:26:20 --> 1:26:27
sacrifice as as i think there was in bobby kennedy's book um from all of it is not actually

695
1:26:27 --> 1:26:33
there's not that's a great idea a chart of evildoers like a great like yeah no there's not

696
1:26:34 --> 1:26:39
okay so that could be an addendum that you make available just yeah perhaps on jim's article

697
1:26:39 --> 1:26:46
the feed uh anyway i thought steven for your question who are these bastards exactly in the

698
1:26:46 --> 1:26:53
biblical sense um not that i'm an expert on the bible but jim last time you spoke to us and i

699
1:26:53 --> 1:26:58
think you've spoken to us twice before but the sec i think the second time or the last time anyway

700
1:26:58 --> 1:27:04
you spoke to us i was thinking i was really affected as a doctor and as a human being by

701
1:27:04 --> 1:27:13
what you said and i thought all jim needs is a storyteller i thought that and i hope i said it

702
1:27:14 --> 1:27:22
to cilia or to you or both but i know that we had cilia on last time i think she spoken to us

703
1:27:22 --> 1:27:28
twice is that right cilia that's right and i think you've spoken to us maybe three times before is it

704
1:27:28 --> 1:27:38
james anyway the the last time around about the time you were both on i was thinking uh i need

705
1:27:38 --> 1:27:43
to put james jim's orp in touch with cilia but i don't know whether i did it i hope i did but i

706
1:27:43 --> 1:27:50
hope so it would be worth the four years work i've done uh would be worth it just for making

707
1:27:50 --> 1:27:57
that connection so i hope it's a it's a partnership made in heaven i think i thank you god bless you i

708
1:27:57 --> 1:28:04
think it is i i see my friend uh vera sharaf on here and i had such an honor and privilege of

709
1:28:04 --> 1:28:13
meeting her what what a hero she is thank you vera all right yeah so i think i hope that cilia

710
1:28:13 --> 1:28:19
has been able to capture the outrage i hear in your voice both as a medical doctor and i'm a

711
1:28:19 --> 1:28:27
doctor too um and as a human being and hopefully i am human after this nonsense for this sheer evil

712
1:28:27 --> 1:28:34
over the past four years and before obviously but i didn't realize to the extent and i now trust my

713
1:28:34 --> 1:28:41
instincts prior to 2020 i i i was thinking certain things but i was hoping that someone would come

714
1:28:41 --> 1:28:46
along with a solution or salt get rid of it all you know but but now i realize that we have to

715
1:28:46 --> 1:28:54
take responsibility for what's going on and we have to we the people on this call and others like us

716
1:28:55 --> 1:29:02
must take responsibility uh for what we see and speak out in the best words we can and words are

717
1:29:02 --> 1:29:07
very important i agree with cilia and that's the way that the greek myths have survived all these

718
1:29:07 --> 1:29:15
years um all these hundreds of years you know because they are highly relevant to human beings

719
1:29:15 --> 1:29:25
and how human beings function and so we had an amazing um presentation um on uh last tuesday

720
1:29:26 --> 1:29:33
by a guy who was uh by a wonderful man who was born in the soviet union and um

721
1:29:34 --> 1:29:41
he was talking about books and he had realized quite early on because gorky had a conversation

722
1:29:41 --> 1:29:49
with lenin gorky is a writer in the soviet union and lenin after the revolution to uh 1917 and um

723
1:29:50 --> 1:29:58
he said you need to get the population of our country i.e the soviet union to have access to

724
1:29:58 --> 1:30:03
the great classics and the point about the classics is that they are the classics

725
1:30:03 --> 1:30:10
because they have something important to say and so people don't need to read all the uh texts

726
1:30:10 --> 1:30:16
which are available they just need to read these hundred classics and he maintains a living list

727
1:30:16 --> 1:30:22
of the classics the point being that you haven't got time most people haven't got time to read

728
1:30:22 --> 1:30:28
um well most people don't read 100 books um but of course uh there are some who

729
1:30:28 --> 1:30:36
read many more than 100 um but they waste time with uh texts which are not so um important and

730
1:30:36 --> 1:30:44
which are results of the classics and so i think he's right right on there and anyway point is um

731
1:30:44 --> 1:30:53
um so i think that uh cilia you have this incredible gift for uh getting to people's

732
1:30:53 --> 1:31:01
hearts with your words and and jim the the meat of what he's saying is so important i did think

733
1:31:01 --> 1:31:05
that if we can get this out to the public when you're speaking last if we can get this out to

734
1:31:05 --> 1:31:12
the public this could be the way this could be the thing that will bring them down attacking babies

735
1:31:12 --> 1:31:21
and and uh expectant mothers and could i uh could i jump in sorry i don't want to interrupt you but

736
1:31:21 --> 1:31:26
before we go to thank you i'm so resonating with with everything you're saying and the ancient

737
1:31:26 --> 1:31:34
greeks their symbol the the quintessential symbol of vulnerability for the ancient greeks was the

738
1:31:34 --> 1:31:41
pregnant hair if i remember properly from college the pregnant hair um i wanted to say this when jim

739
1:31:41 --> 1:31:52
was speaking it came to me so thank you jim amazing presentation uh when uh um so there's a

740
1:31:52 --> 1:31:59
piece that fits with this i bet everybody here is thinking how how how is this possible and i want to

741
1:31:59 --> 1:32:05
introduce something that i worked on a lot and and pieced together as i was working on the book and

742
1:32:05 --> 1:32:14
that was looking at the the woke the woke piece which is not a small piece it's like a it's like

743
1:32:14 --> 1:32:20
a like a continent right that comes in so as i said in bobby kennedy's book everything fauci

744
1:32:20 --> 1:32:24
did he did because of woke now i'm not just going to rant about woke we all know about woke

745
1:32:25 --> 1:32:31
but here's the critical part that just came to me as i was listening to jim the part of woke

746
1:32:31 --> 1:32:37
that has telling us there's no such thing as a woman that's telling us men can get pregnant i

747
1:32:37 --> 1:32:44
saw a book today somewhere on the internet a children's book and it says it was it was two men

748
1:32:44 --> 1:32:51
one of them with a big belly like a cartoon right and it said i grew in my daddy's belly so i just

749
1:32:51 --> 1:32:58
want to say the piece that kind of prepares the ground for this horror is this whole there's no

750
1:32:58 --> 1:33:04
such thing as a woman men can have babies and you see to the last we're going to make the list

751
1:33:05 --> 1:33:10
steven and charles great idea but what i saw i remember when i called you jim and i said jim

752
1:33:10 --> 1:33:17
all these the walenskis and all the evil ones and all of their every utterance and press release

753
1:33:17 --> 1:33:24
everything they always use the phrase pregnant people and it freaked me out so bad pregnant

754
1:33:24 --> 1:33:31
people outrageous they won't and that's like that's them so cilia they've been to live yeah so what

755
1:33:31 --> 1:33:36
you're saying in different words is they deliberately attack universal truths contained in the great

756
1:33:36 --> 1:33:42
myths and all the great classics i'm also saying they hate women and they've hated women not just

757
1:33:42 --> 1:33:48
women they hate everything absolutely yeah and they want us divided on everything absolutely

758
1:33:49 --> 1:33:55
once you take away essential biological womanhood from women and you spread that all over the culture

759
1:33:55 --> 1:34:03
i think it actually becomes easier to mothers to this heart somehow still don't even really think

760
1:34:03 --> 1:34:06
there's such a thing as a mother or a woman anymore it's been going on of course for

761
1:34:07 --> 1:34:14
you know absolutely everything is up and one more thing real quick the graphics oh my god

762
1:34:14 --> 1:34:18
jim do you remember how obsessed i was about the creepy graphics who remembers

763
1:34:18 --> 1:34:24
covet creepy graphics and the ones that pertained to the propaganda and it's really like this very

764
1:34:24 --> 1:34:31
socialist realist stuff the cart not cartoons the well they look like cartoons but the the you know

765
1:34:31 --> 1:34:38
the pamphlets the posters it's the the theme and it's so disturbing was that they they have no

766
1:34:38 --> 1:34:46
facial features they're often brown or dark brown they have often no hands

767
1:34:48 --> 1:34:54
sometimes no feet and you'll see this if you look up covid propaganda posters you see these

768
1:34:54 --> 1:35:01
yeah incredibly disturbing themes and and i see you should write about that you should write about

769
1:35:01 --> 1:35:07
that because if you wrote about that that would encapsulate the evil and so i think what you're

770
1:35:07 --> 1:35:14
saying is that that these are these pictures were well lit if you like well lit but no nuance

771
1:35:15 --> 1:35:22
it's very it's sort of ai transhumanist world you know and and you see the doctor with a clipboard

772
1:35:22 --> 1:35:31
and usually the doctor is also you know um they they push a lot of sort of um non-white imagery

773
1:35:31 --> 1:35:36
to make the person think oh you know this is a person who's not white so it's like a better

774
1:35:36 --> 1:35:43
form of human stuff right and the doctor has a clipboard and the mother is standing with like

775
1:35:43 --> 1:35:50
no facial features no hands and she's she's not holding her child's hand i mean i could send you

776
1:35:50 --> 1:35:56
all these the child is kind of over here but she's got this posture toward the doctor like he's the

777
1:35:56 --> 1:36:03
salvation i mean really really if you just look at the propaganda posters it's all there and i've

778
1:36:03 --> 1:36:13
always wanted to know they're so consistent who came up with that hideous style i know tessa's

779
1:36:13 --> 1:36:17
here she grew up in the soviet union she's probably very familiar with you know what they

780
1:36:17 --> 1:36:24
do with posters and graphics is under appreciated part of all of this if i may sorry one of our

781
1:36:25 --> 1:36:35
presenters cilia and everybody told us that the bbc stopped using colors as they had prior to 2000

782
1:36:36 --> 1:36:41
they stopped using them in 2000 i think 2000 somewhere around there and you get these

783
1:36:41 --> 1:36:47
detective especially the swedish and danish detective stories uh that and they're all in

784
1:36:47 --> 1:36:55
blue and gray and color has gone and apparently it it dumbs people down and so it was i think

785
1:36:56 --> 1:37:03
it could have been martinez the um the mk ultra guy um or it could have been jason christoph i

786
1:37:03 --> 1:37:08
can't quite remember so um but either of those could have said it but anyway that's evil as well

787
1:37:09 --> 1:37:17
um i just so you two together are a force of nature in my opinion i hope i put you together

788
1:37:17 --> 1:37:24
but anyway it doesn't matter if i didn't um because so i wanted to jim i just wonder so

789
1:37:25 --> 1:37:30
you mentioned that you know the five trillion uh dollars has been spent on on um on this

790
1:37:30 --> 1:37:36
covid nonsense in the united states of america i think you meant but i was a bit surprised with

791
1:37:36 --> 1:37:43
these figures for for for johns hopkins 842 billion uh use university college ross angeles

792
1:37:43 --> 1:37:49
i think it was 709 billion something 703 billion didn't couldn't write quick enough 658 billion

793
1:37:49 --> 1:37:56
633 billion you're careful to say billion rather than million and i just wonder you know if so

794
1:37:56 --> 1:38:05
call it 500 billion average for the top 20 because i think that and it's more than that but call it

795
1:38:05 --> 1:38:12
for the sake of that's 10 trillion dollars i don't does that is it possible that there's been a

796
1:38:12 --> 1:38:20
mistake in the i know you read it from some leaflet or whatever it was those figures 842 billion that's

797
1:38:20 --> 1:38:26
nearly a trillion has gone to one university johns hopkins in a year is that possible

798
1:38:28 --> 1:38:34
uh it it doesn't seem uh i'm putting the link in the description but remember uh it seems

799
1:38:34 --> 1:38:39
impossible to me but this is what i'm reading sure right i have this website i just put the link in

800
1:38:39 --> 1:38:46
there it says it says the title of the article is top 20 universities for nih funding johns

801
1:38:46 --> 1:38:53
hopkins ranks first again johns hopkins university once again leads all u.s universities and colleges

802
1:38:53 --> 1:39:02
and total nih funding in federal fiscal year 2023 the most recent year for which relatively

803
1:39:02 --> 1:39:15
complete data are available hopkins investigator received 842 billion 956 million 584 dollars in

804
1:39:15 --> 1:39:24
awards so jim i'm pretty good with figures and i understanding that seems a remarkably high figure

805
1:39:24 --> 1:39:31
for one university for one year it's yeah i mean maybe you know forbes i agree with you but this is

806
1:39:31 --> 1:39:39
what forbes says look it up now here's what i'll say is well you know the 5.3 trillion dollars

807
1:39:39 --> 1:39:46
you know this was documented by multiple media outlets including the washington post and the new

808
1:39:46 --> 1:39:55
york times last year and what they said was that five trillion plus dollars was spent over the

809
1:39:55 --> 1:40:01
pandemic and there's no accountability we have no idea where it went so it's it's very likely that

810
1:40:01 --> 1:40:08
the money that that the forbes magazine is talking about is totally separate from that five trillion

811
1:40:08 --> 1:40:15
dollar path so who knows but if it's true those figures then call it half a trillion each of them

812
1:40:15 --> 1:40:22
but it'd be more than that 20 times half a trillion is 10 trillion to the top 20 universities in

813
1:40:22 --> 1:40:31
america from the nih so how could the nih have that amount of money well well well here's where

814
1:40:32 --> 1:40:38
or are they trying to big up are they trying to big up the nih and say how powerful the nih is

815
1:40:38 --> 1:40:43
don't mess with the nih all you scientists because you won't get a grant and look how much we give

816
1:40:43 --> 1:40:50
out so is it true why would forbes get it wrong and why would they if they didn't get it wrong

817
1:40:50 --> 1:40:58
why would they lie yeah i mean we flag it we try to get the original jim right we need to we need

818
1:40:58 --> 1:41:04
to nail that figure those figures can't be right jim i'm not i'm not the link credibility i'm just

819
1:41:04 --> 1:41:11
saying the forbes have either lied or they've got it wrong well i i think that it's a i i had the

820
1:41:11 --> 1:41:19
exact same um the exact same i i couldn't believe my eyes that's why i pulled the article up did you

821
1:41:19 --> 1:41:26
guys get the link oh you put it in the chat let's see yeah i put it oh wait wait i sent it to the

822
1:41:26 --> 1:41:31
wrong send the chat to everybody in the meeting i sent it to just one person sorry everyone well

823
1:41:32 --> 1:41:38
one last thing cilia and again i'd just like to say that this is so important this presentation

824
1:41:38 --> 1:41:44
that you two have just done now and you know as far as does anyone reliable have that you don't

825
1:41:44 --> 1:41:49
have to be uh worrying about whether you're reliable does anyone have the time to make a

826
1:41:49 --> 1:41:55
transcript of these present of these two presentations uh i think it's really important

827
1:41:55 --> 1:41:57
to get a transcript of what you said today

828
1:42:00 --> 1:42:06
yeah so that's addressed to people on the call but uh i'm sure someone will take it up please

829
1:42:06 --> 1:42:11
contact me if you want to take on that responsibility so there are people on the call i know a very

830
1:42:11 --> 1:42:21
reliable uh uh loschow hansen in sweden uh hans benjamin braun in in switzerland uh jeroen caucy

831
1:42:21 --> 1:42:27
in the united states these are all friends of mine so jerry is saying it is hundreds of bill

832
1:42:27 --> 1:42:35
of millions not billions a billion is one it's a thousand million million is a thousand million

833
1:42:36 --> 1:42:44
this i read to you this is steve i've just got the john hopkins uh 2023 financials up

834
1:42:45 --> 1:42:56
uh at the moment um total income is 4.4 billion uh sorry oh good lord there's too many notes

835
1:42:57 --> 1:43:05
4 000 million let me just i'll put it up a minute that's that's four billion then how many notes are

836
1:43:05 --> 1:43:15
there if there are nine hold on a minute uh let me just get that up um i've got four five this

837
1:43:15 --> 1:43:28
is 2023 sponsor sponsored research revenues four five five six five five two four thousand

838
1:43:29 --> 1:43:32
so how many digits are there before the thousand

839
1:43:33 --> 1:43:40
so be or after the thousand there's a thousand and there's one two three four five six seven

840
1:43:41 --> 1:43:45
seven thousand that looks like 4.5 billion to me

841
1:43:47 --> 1:43:53
sorry let's nail this down so are you saying there are there are seven figures before the

842
1:43:54 --> 1:44:00
the three notes at the end the thousand yes yeah put the link put the link in the chat let me look

843
1:44:00 --> 1:44:09
at it so then you're talking about a single figure billion until i think i'm looking at 4.5 billion

844
1:44:09 --> 1:44:15
that's what i'm looking 4500 million yeah with would that be nine notes or roughly nine notes

845
1:44:15 --> 1:44:21
yeah yeah yeah 10 to the ninth is a billion so forbes i've made a mistake which is unthinkable

846
1:44:21 --> 1:44:27
on something so important or they've done it deliberately and the question is why i think

847
1:44:27 --> 1:44:34
it's the latter i've just put the link in now uh james thank you so someone needs to look into

848
1:44:34 --> 1:44:44
that that's very important to nail that down and so um anyway to get back to the transcript

849
1:44:44 --> 1:44:51
so anybody on this call or indeed watching the video if they can email me uh if they want to do

850
1:44:51 --> 1:44:56
this transcript transcript of this these presentations that we've heard tonight very

851
1:44:56 --> 1:45:01
important hey steven i see a lot of people with their hands up i think yeah yeah yeah i'm just

852
1:45:01 --> 1:45:09
volunteering to do it yes so jim i was just about to say over to the people who want to speak now

853
1:45:09 --> 1:45:15
so charles if you're around charles is very early for charles in australia he's beginning to flag on

854
1:45:15 --> 1:45:23
his fourth year uh jim doing this and he's sleeping now by the look of it so hans benjamin

855
1:45:23 --> 1:45:30
brawn who is the professor of theoretical physics in switzerland even jerry brady here you've got

856
1:45:30 --> 1:45:36
the numbers wrong a thousand million is a billion yeah these are hundreds these are hundreds of

857
1:45:36 --> 1:45:43
millions right well they're good on money i think so too but forbes have got it wrong jerry it doesn't

858
1:45:44 --> 1:45:49
it's not jim who's no no they've listed the more i can see i haven't had a good look they've listed

859
1:45:49 --> 1:45:58
the numbers quite clearly in hundreds of millions who foebs up they've got university of california

860
1:45:58 --> 1:46:07
789 million university of pennsylvania 703 million duke university 701 um a million these are millions

861
1:46:08 --> 1:46:15
okay well yes that's what i was suspecting million is a thousand million my my mistake

862
1:46:15 --> 1:46:22
my my error my error i'm wrong this is important jim it's important to get it right jim for your

863
1:46:22 --> 1:46:29
book i maya copa maya copa maya maxima copa i just pulled this back up those are those are all

864
1:46:29 --> 1:46:35
million uh those are all uh they're hundreds of millions millions yeah so it's very important

865
1:46:35 --> 1:46:39
so it's very important that we nailed that down so i just sent by very important

866
1:46:40 --> 1:46:46
so it's out by a thousand fold but the thing is it's still a lot of money and it's a it's a lot of

867
1:46:46 --> 1:46:52
money it's not millions it's hundreds it's hundreds of millions sorry for the top 20

868
1:46:52 --> 1:46:59
universities in america we're talking about uh in excess of 10 billion from the nih alone

869
1:46:59 --> 1:47:08
and that's only the top 20 yeah that's right my error maya copa maya copa maya maxima copa

870
1:47:08 --> 1:47:14
it's okay but jim do you remember when we were doing the numbers early on the number what's that

871
1:47:14 --> 1:47:23
creepy website that sounds like ccp but it isn't it's like cc seppi ccc or something a us oh oh

872
1:47:23 --> 1:47:29
cc that's a yeah the covet 19 community core yeah anyone can covet community core corps

873
1:47:30 --> 1:47:38
anyone can go there and they actually for some reason flout their uh their bribes there and the

874
1:47:38 --> 1:47:42
total number that they cited there for and they show you like you can see for example you just

875
1:47:42 --> 1:47:51
scroll down 800 black radio stations received this many millions and the total number there for all

876
1:47:51 --> 1:47:58
covet u.s government i don't know what the word is expenditure is in the trillions remember that

877
1:47:58 --> 1:48:09
number jim that was a trillion that they it was over a trillion so so we are into the the trillions

878
1:48:09 --> 1:48:17
with everything not these universities but sure it's i'll put the link for the covet 19

879
1:48:17 --> 1:48:26
was put together yeah um so hans benjamin brawn i was just saying uh go ahead hans benjamin

880
1:48:26 --> 1:48:33
all right we've got ready for other questions now okay yeah go ahead charles yeah okay benjamin

881
1:48:33 --> 1:48:41
yes we can hear you go for it okay can you hear me yep yes okay okay very good yeah just as a as a

882
1:48:41 --> 1:48:47
so jerry is absolutely right it's the order of magnitude by the way eth surek has an annual

883
1:48:47 --> 1:48:57
budget of 1.8 billion so uh this grant money is approximately half of the total budget of eth

884
1:48:57 --> 1:49:04
surek which is among the top 10 universities so uh to link it so it's by no means a small amount

885
1:49:04 --> 1:49:12
of money which came in there so uh but now back to the to the i mean was a brilliant brinyard

886
1:49:12 --> 1:49:20
exposition and um actually it did ring a lot of bells uh even though you're in a different

887
1:49:20 --> 1:49:28
discipline uh medicine but i uh made many experiences in in in physics you know research

888
1:49:28 --> 1:49:34
i was reviewing grants and so forth and just before i ultimately ask you a question i wanted to

889
1:49:36 --> 1:49:45
tell you i mean one aspect is that it seems that in many disciplines there is you know we live in

890
1:49:45 --> 1:49:51
the age of data so there are data and overwhelming amount of data and actually nobody is actually

891
1:49:52 --> 1:50:00
able to really mine them and question them so those guys who have the data they interpret them

892
1:50:00 --> 1:50:06
and because they have the time at the resources they say something and nobody is actually able

893
1:50:06 --> 1:50:11
to catch up with that because it's simply too voluminous so i think that's a really important

894
1:50:12 --> 1:50:20
point which somehow you know as a outsider community you know in critical community you

895
1:50:20 --> 1:50:26
simply cannot check that in particular then the supervisory agencies are actually on the one

896
1:50:26 --> 1:50:36
cover with the with the pharmaceutical industry in your case so i have now um the other aspect

897
1:50:36 --> 1:50:43
which is related to what what stephen knows and some of you know uh in connection with north stream

898
1:50:43 --> 1:50:50
actually that's the sort of the the cozy cohabitation of research which is in this

899
1:50:50 --> 1:50:57
case not medicine but actually nuclear nuclear and weapon industry which is a similar cozy

900
1:50:57 --> 1:51:06
relationship maybe even and you know a more concealed one and this is now a personal anecdote

901
1:51:06 --> 1:51:13
that uh because as you know many of you know that i analyzed what happens with in the north stream

902
1:51:13 --> 1:51:19
incident and there is complete utter silence from the academic side and i almost wondered why and

903
1:51:19 --> 1:51:24
actually to the extent that they fight against me they come up with ridiculous arguments and then i

904
1:51:24 --> 1:51:34
have to in a one-man show i have to refute them which i always did one by one incidentally a note

905
1:51:34 --> 1:51:44
to to stephen frost in in bornholm the island the danish island the fishery congregation just

906
1:51:44 --> 1:51:53
dissolved this spring because they do not fish anymore there are no fish left period in that area

907
1:51:53 --> 1:52:02
but now back to that to this cozy cohabitation i know of a guy he is about one of the few authors

908
1:52:02 --> 1:52:09
who actually published some was able to publish something on the north stream incident in a seismic

909
1:52:09 --> 1:52:15
journal and it wasn't revolutionary he just essentially confirmed numbers which were floating

910
1:52:15 --> 1:52:22
around partially in some databases but it was significant enough that he did not actually agree

911
1:52:22 --> 1:52:29
with what northa said which is the norwegian seismic agency which is a joint venture with

912
1:52:30 --> 1:52:37
the most national lab which you may be familiar with you know the weapons nuclear weapons lab

913
1:52:37 --> 1:52:44
and it was founded in 1968 so anyway that agency was the first one who came out with a rough

914
1:52:44 --> 1:52:52
estimate on what kind of explosive was used in the north stream incident within 24 hours and now

915
1:52:53 --> 1:53:01
now the director of that institute northa approached that person who is a young academic

916
1:53:01 --> 1:53:06
at the beginning of his career i don't know whether he's in a tenure track but you know has

917
1:53:06 --> 1:53:17
a temporary position not a permanent position and she told him you are not going to continue to work

918
1:53:17 --> 1:53:25
on this subject and you and i know what that means to a young researcher right if he is going

919
1:53:25 --> 1:53:36
to continue his career will be over and that demonstrates effectiveness with which research

920
1:53:36 --> 1:53:45
is actually suppressed in the universities and it's simple so every single individual is actually

921
1:53:45 --> 1:53:53
confronted with the choice you continue to be critical and then your choice you know you're

922
1:53:53 --> 1:54:03
axed your position may be axed or you know or you just leave and um and now question question

923
1:54:03 --> 1:54:09
come on yeah now comes the question now comes the question i mean now i seriously view all the

924
1:54:09 --> 1:54:18
experience which i had as a grant reviewer for multi-million you know volume grants and i know

925
1:54:18 --> 1:54:26
how the publication system works i know how people site work and you know how it works and this is now

926
1:54:26 --> 1:54:33
i mean it's nearly a rhetorical question can this academic system of grants publications

927
1:54:33 --> 1:54:41
actually be saved and what i mean by saved can it be saved in the direction that it actually

928
1:54:41 --> 1:54:49
is able to produce something which is of benefit to society rather than the reverse

929
1:54:50 --> 1:54:55
okay so jim quick answer because there are 10 hands up and we've got half an hour to go

930
1:54:55 --> 1:54:56
up and we've got half an hour to go

931
1:55:00 --> 1:55:08
it is a is a brilliant complex question i i don't know that this system can be salvaged

932
1:55:08 --> 1:55:13
i don't because this has been going on since the 1970s with the new york journal of medicine i mean

933
1:55:13 --> 1:55:20
we had a lead editor you know remember dr marcia angle at the turn of the century resigned and said

934
1:55:20 --> 1:55:27
it was terminally corporately entangled and corrupt plopped erratically so i don't i don't

935
1:55:27 --> 1:55:31
know that can be saved any more than our country can be saved at this point in time but there's some

936
1:55:31 --> 1:55:33
patient people that have had their hands up

937
1:55:36 --> 1:55:42
okay thank you thank you thank you benjamin now before we get to you glenn uh peter underwood you

938
1:55:42 --> 1:55:46
had your hand up you made a comment what zoom does if you make a comment it puts you to the back of

939
1:55:46 --> 1:55:51
the line you're at the front of the line so peter your question to jim and cilia please and then we

940
1:55:51 --> 1:55:57
go to glenn okay thank you i'll be as quick as possible thank you very much cedar and james

941
1:55:57 --> 1:56:02
absolutely stunning presentation i just wanted to ask you whether you'd come across something that

942
1:56:02 --> 1:56:09
i was involved in in february 2021 i was working as a counselor with the citizens of vice bureau at

943
1:56:09 --> 1:56:16
the time and i was asked if i would like to join this government funded group called vaccine

944
1:56:17 --> 1:56:26
buddies um well i knew it was the opposition but i thought i'd become a mole anyway and i joined them

945
1:56:27 --> 1:56:35
and the whole idea was that the government had got was to deal with people who were

946
1:56:35 --> 1:56:44
vaccine hesitant and our training involved a lot of angles towards pregnant women i wasn't very

947
1:56:44 --> 1:56:51
happy about that and i worked uh for about 18 months with them trying to save some of the

948
1:56:51 --> 1:57:00
patients that uh came to us the idea was that the vaccine buddy would encourage and work with

949
1:57:00 --> 1:57:06
the vaccine hesitant in order to get vaccines i just wanted to ask you whether you'd come

950
1:57:06 --> 1:57:10
across anything like this in america or anywhere else perhaps

951
1:57:10 --> 1:57:19
so

952
1:57:24 --> 1:57:32
cilia you're muted there are entire there's a whole new ecosystem post covid of i don't know

953
1:57:32 --> 1:57:37
exactly of that intimate as what you're talking about but you can there are all these um

954
1:57:38 --> 1:57:46
organizations and they have videos they're very open about it about how to how to psychologically

955
1:57:46 --> 1:57:51
move a woman from being vaccine hesitant to being vaccine enthusiastic so i yeah there

956
1:57:52 --> 1:57:57
there's not as much of that sociological stuff and one could write a whole book just about that

957
1:57:57 --> 1:58:05
but i definitely came across it it's very well funded it's it's spectacularly creepy and dark

958
1:58:05 --> 1:58:10
and they and i noticed a lot of things that they did again like watch you know the colors and the

959
1:58:12 --> 1:58:18
there's a tone that they use when they speak that is like uh i mean it's like you're in the middle

960
1:58:18 --> 1:58:26
of an mk ultra chamber you know it's it's horrific and this is the next big threat and i want

961
1:58:26 --> 1:58:32
everybody to train like you can hear when somebody's doing that then it's the whole culture is flooded

962
1:58:32 --> 1:58:40
with it it's amazing to me that it works because women are known for having instincts

963
1:58:42 --> 1:58:51
all right thank you very important vaccine buddy i didn't realize that what an outrageous uh term

964
1:58:51 --> 1:59:00
and yeah i've got steven i've got all the uh data the training programs the um the uh powerpoint

965
1:59:00 --> 1:59:07
the whole i kept the whole thing because i was horrified i've actually got the hm government

966
1:59:07 --> 1:59:13
official document uh which lays the whole program out i was horrified when i saw it

967
1:59:13 --> 1:59:18
you know the the united states government the united states government had many many such programs

968
1:59:18 --> 1:59:25
they partnered with through this coveted 19 community core and through harvard university

969
1:59:25 --> 1:59:32
they they uh they funded private groups that that just from every level of our society from

970
1:59:32 --> 1:59:41
grassroots uh city regional state and national groups promoting this um so it it was again five

971
1:59:42 --> 1:59:48
plus trillion dollars is a lot of money you stack uh five trillion dollars on back to back and you

972
1:59:48 --> 1:59:54
know you can go all the way to the moon and back and then all the way back to the moon again

973
1:59:54 --> 2:00:02
almost 750 um well let me get my numbers right yeah uh 200 almost 750 000 miles of stacked

974
2:00:02 --> 2:00:08
dollar bills so here's the other issue here that is i think really pertinent how can people that

975
2:00:08 --> 2:00:16
seemingly are intellectually intact you know continue to not be able to connect the dots

976
2:00:16 --> 2:00:23
and i think part of that is multifactorial but here's a slant that i think is very important

977
2:00:23 --> 2:00:30
for everyone when i look at our governmental database there's database and you and i look

978
2:00:30 --> 2:00:38
at three specific diagnoses of groups of diagnosis intellectual problems not being able to connect the

979
2:00:38 --> 2:00:46
dots dementia um dementias um they when you compare the dementias and the intellectual issues

980
2:00:46 --> 2:00:54
with a covet 19 vaccine with that of influenza vaccine or all other vaccines there's a huge

981
2:00:54 --> 2:01:00
breach of the safety signal and by the way it's the same for psychiatric diagnoses there's there's

982
2:01:00 --> 2:01:08
about five or six psychiatric diagnoses on that various database at the lowest level and when i

983
2:01:08 --> 2:01:16
compare in a time series that associated with the covet 19 vaccine compared with the influenza

984
2:01:16 --> 2:01:22
vaccine or all the other vaccines put together there's a huge breach of safety signal and then

985
2:01:22 --> 2:01:32
one third component is suicidal ideation and suicide itself huge uh increased risk uh breach

986
2:01:32 --> 2:01:38
safety signal with covet 19 compared with the other vaccines all right let's get moving we're

987
2:01:38 --> 2:01:46
going to run out of time blaine hi i'd like to address my question to dr jim thorpe you dr

988
2:01:46 --> 2:01:54
thorpe are a friend of mine uh you dr thorpe are a great spiritual warrior um and there's many other

989
2:01:54 --> 2:02:00
spiritual warriors here with us today i have a concern though if if we're to have any luck

990
2:02:00 --> 2:02:05
in this particular war and to save our nation we have to join together in a much more coordinated

991
2:02:05 --> 2:02:16
way and i suspect uh you may be set up as a uh in part to to buy a variety of people to trick

992
2:02:17 --> 2:02:22
the public into focusing on this particular question that you're dealing with which i don't

993
2:02:22 --> 2:02:26
think can actually help us this year let me explain why that what everything you've said is absolutely

994
2:02:26 --> 2:02:31
true and all those people are being attacked and they deserve justice there's just no way that

995
2:02:31 --> 2:02:37
justice can happen in this calendar year uh while we have we have the joe biden administration and

996
2:02:37 --> 2:02:43
in our current justice department uh so anything they can do to distract the rest of us spiritual

997
2:02:43 --> 2:02:49
warriors uh will dissipate will confuse divide and conquer all of us uh i believe that the

998
2:02:49 --> 2:02:54
rockefeller brothers and the rest of their evil elite subordinates are happy to see you

999
2:02:54 --> 2:03:02
uh taking those efforts and they want to defer away from the big issue around uh they want to

1000
2:03:02 --> 2:03:09
cancel the election they cannot afford to allow a righteous president like uh president uh trump to

1001
2:03:09 --> 2:03:14
come back to power because he knows where they are and what they've done and all the evil things that

1002
2:03:14 --> 2:03:21
and he's prepared this time much more than he was eight years ago uh so if if you could sort of delay

1003
2:03:21 --> 2:03:27
your focus on this and in fact in fact every every part of the people that support you from

1004
2:03:27 --> 2:03:34
a spiritual way that you could join in in in the avenue of protecting against martial law and

1005
2:03:34 --> 2:03:40
against canceled elections that's what's going to happen this year this is the turning point this

1006
2:03:40 --> 2:03:45
you know i don't believe we have seven three more years like charles described i believe this is it

1007
2:03:45 --> 2:03:49
if we don't win this year we're done as a country that we are in permanent slave

1008
2:03:49 --> 2:03:57
slavery and perhaps uh even extinction of the of the human species so uh that would be my quest

1009
2:03:57 --> 2:04:03
to you is how would you feel about joining with others to focus just on making sure that we have

1010
2:04:03 --> 2:04:08
elections this year are getting people to work locally together with their local law enforcement

1011
2:04:08 --> 2:04:15
to to survive any kind of gang attacks that are likely to happen with over 100,000 cells that

1012
2:04:15 --> 2:04:22
have been distributed across the country amen very good points okay very good points well jim

1013
2:04:22 --> 2:04:27
jim will think about that surely you will think about that well put glenn elbert

1014
2:04:29 --> 2:04:37
yeah uh hi jim hi miss selya it's good to good to see you guys um uh jim my question is um kind

1015
2:04:37 --> 2:04:45
of a spiritual type question i'm just i uh i wonder what you do on a daily basis to to

1016
2:04:46 --> 2:04:53
stay grounded because i know that you know all of us um it's almost like a spiritual battle it's

1017
2:04:53 --> 2:04:59
like you know we can't have like three friends that all agree on everything you know it's like

1018
2:04:59 --> 2:05:06
you all have disagreements about one thing or another and um so you know with that i know that

1019
2:05:06 --> 2:05:16
there's a lot of shade thrown your way um on various uh topics or issues but um you know

1020
2:05:16 --> 2:05:21
because i know that you're very well versed in the bible i know you're a good christian

1021
2:05:21 --> 2:05:29
you're a righteous man and um what do you do on a on a daily basis to to stay grounded like that

1022
2:05:29 --> 2:05:37
because uh i'd like to do the same i i stay in the word every day i have a personal relationship

1023
2:05:37 --> 2:05:44
with my lord and savior jesus christ um and maggie and i are on the same page and uh you know it's

1024
2:05:44 --> 2:05:50
funny you bring that up because i i deeply miss you know i'm working some 18 hours a day on some

1025
2:05:50 --> 2:06:01
days um and i deeply miss um my men's uh fellowship and and i started going um again um to get out

1026
2:06:01 --> 2:06:07
not just with maggie to get out with like-minded friends like yourself albert physically where you

1027
2:06:07 --> 2:06:14
know we met for three hours friday morning and i i need that because i can't even you you have no

1028
2:06:14 --> 2:06:20
idea how maggie and i are being attacked with not only death threats but with litigation and with

1029
2:06:20 --> 2:06:28
attacks from every level that you could imagine yeah no i i know i know um and with that jim i'll

1030
2:06:28 --> 2:06:34
just leave you with i i just in the audience i posted something in the chat there was a link that

1031
2:06:34 --> 2:06:42
um you know i caught a pedro pedro moro of the cdc which is uh like shimabukuro's uh protege

1032
2:06:42 --> 2:06:49
and i and i think that shimabukuro doesn't have like the same title like he left or retired or

1033
2:06:49 --> 2:06:58
he moved positions um that you know that he had initially um and pedro moro his protege took some

1034
2:06:58 --> 2:07:04
kind of leap leap up up the ladder a little bit but anyways with that i got him dead to rights on

1035
2:07:05 --> 2:07:12
the um on the dead uh alaskan baby whose report was only visible in the downloadable

1036
2:07:12 --> 2:07:18
verus files for a few minutes and then never officially published um so anything and then

1037
2:07:18 --> 2:07:27
and then he comes out as a um uh in this pediatrics paper about the rsv jabs and um saying that

1038
2:07:27 --> 2:07:31
there's no conflict of interest and i'm saying gee that this guy this guy is a part of the

1039
2:07:31 --> 2:07:37
bears adjudication system he's a part he's one of the guys that are disappearing these reports

1040
2:07:37 --> 2:07:44
before they ever get published so anyways that's what my little substack uh article was about and

1041
2:07:44 --> 2:07:51
um man and miss cellia oh you're so you're so you're you're such a beautiful spirit a beautiful

1042
2:07:51 --> 2:07:57
person a beautiful woman um i check in i check in with your with your zooms and listen to you

1043
2:07:57 --> 2:08:05
every now and then and um i i'm probably um going to be a lot like you in the sense that

1044
2:08:05 --> 2:08:11
you've been you've been beaten down for years because you've just spoken truth to power and

1045
2:08:11 --> 2:08:18
uh i kind of uh feel feel like that too like oh my god this is uh i better i better uh take notes

1046
2:08:18 --> 2:08:26
on how how cellia does it because i have a feeling this dog fight's gonna last for many years and i

1047
2:08:26 --> 2:08:33
gotta learn how to you know keep fighting even though i'm getting beat up constantly so thank

1048
2:08:33 --> 2:08:39
you god bless you albert god bless you too my the word that came into my mind was badly you said how

1049
2:08:40 --> 2:08:46
there's there's no good way to do it you just but it's i've said before in this group i'll be very

1050
2:08:46 --> 2:08:56
brief but this is an under under appreciated part of the fight is how to keep how to stay what we

1051
2:08:56 --> 2:09:02
call strong right because most people just want to fight fight fight and that you know it's not

1052
2:09:02 --> 2:09:08
really discussed it's very important okay so thank you albert and you said you're gonna be like

1053
2:09:08 --> 2:09:13
celia so i was wondering which cosmetic surgeon you're gonna go to albert uh calabine i'm gonna

1054
2:09:13 --> 2:09:21
have to go to a lot of them thank you you're muted caledine oh i know i'm good i'm getting

1055
2:09:21 --> 2:09:29
it charles thank you so much for reminding me um thank you um jim i this is more of a medical

1056
2:09:29 --> 2:09:35
question and you know i have reached out to you and we've talked about this on and off but mostly

1057
2:09:35 --> 2:09:43
as a clinical physician i get these questions from women who have had the covet injection

1058
2:09:44 --> 2:09:53
and now they have no idea what to do and this is more of a medical question and so they are

1059
2:09:53 --> 2:10:00
they're frightened maybe they've had at least one or two miscarriages i know that next door neighbor

1060
2:10:01 --> 2:10:11
um has had seven miscarriages and um so i just wanted to know what are you telling these women

1061
2:10:11 --> 2:10:17
to give them hope because we as physicians that's one of our biggest roles is to give

1062
2:10:18 --> 2:10:25
those who are hurting hope and i wanted to say one more thing and that is what does it profit a man

1063
2:10:25 --> 2:10:33
should he gain the whole world and lose his soul and that's exactly exactly what these people have

1064
2:10:33 --> 2:10:41
done they have lost their soul thank you amen what i'm doing is aggressive efforts first of all

1065
2:10:42 --> 2:10:47
take no vaccines i wouldn't trust any of the vaccines right now after what our hospitals

1066
2:10:47 --> 2:10:54
and government have done to us number one number two uh restore all the immune system as best as

1067
2:10:54 --> 2:11:00
possible with uh immune supplements and there's a variety of them i i won't go into them i think

1068
2:11:00 --> 2:11:08
you know them as well as i do number three i would strongly recommend um you know the evidentiary

1069
2:11:08 --> 2:11:15
there's no claims for therapeutic efficacy but you know when you look at the spike supplement

1070
2:11:16 --> 2:11:21
that uh the wellness company is marketing there's some really strong science behind that

1071
2:11:21 --> 2:11:29
and it's been shown to have just the natal kinase component as a lot of science i've worked with the

1072
2:11:29 --> 2:11:35
lead author of the largest study in the world chen and colleagues and over a thousand patients

1073
2:11:35 --> 2:11:42
with that now you can't use it in pregnancy but if you use that spike supplement now the mrna vaccine

1074
2:11:42 --> 2:11:49
now has been shown to continue to produce spike protein throughout the body for three years now

1075
2:11:49 --> 2:11:56
dr peter mccullough saying and so um his extended spike supplement which is is basically number one

1076
2:11:57 --> 2:12:04
spike supplement uh from the wellness company number two curcumin supplement and number three

1077
2:12:04 --> 2:12:10
bromelain uh and those are high quality and um the the best science that i see

1078
2:12:12 --> 2:12:17
again no therapeutic claims no randomized double-blinded placebo control studies but

1079
2:12:17 --> 2:12:23
dr mccullough is stating that it definitely increases the clearance of the spike protein

1080
2:12:23 --> 2:12:29
and there's numerous other uh benefits as well what about the what about the bromelain in pregnancy

1081
2:12:29 --> 2:12:37
though no i i'm uh and we've talked about this extensively i am not comfortable i'm comfortable

1082
2:12:37 --> 2:12:42
with everybody using trying to get pregnant but you know when you find out you're pregnant you

1083
2:12:42 --> 2:12:48
know in the first trimester i i'm really uncomfortable with nato kinase i've i've

1084
2:12:48 --> 2:12:55
communicated with dr chen uh you know there's not enough safety data in pregnancy i'm not

1085
2:12:55 --> 2:13:00
just because it's a natural substance doesn't mean it's safe in pregnancy and i can cite a lot of

1086
2:13:00 --> 2:13:08
examples like that in the last 45 years so not enough pregnancy data yet for bromelain or for

1087
2:13:08 --> 2:13:18
lumbo lumbo kinase or for nato kinase you know you know the the i it's just a potential danger

1088
2:13:18 --> 2:13:26
especially with baby bleeding especially with going through the birth canal thank you okay

1089
2:13:26 --> 2:13:32
very good thank you carlin before we get to tessa i want to share something jim and cilia just an

1090
2:13:32 --> 2:13:37
episode to what we're talking about from anna mahalcha who has spoken to us

1091
2:13:38 --> 2:13:46
so this is this morning came in about an hour ago and it's a cia agent we designed mrna to kill

1092
2:13:47 --> 2:13:53
there's a transcript cia invented mrna tech in the conjunction with bill and linda gates

1093
2:13:53 --> 2:13:57
foundation world economic forum and the rockefeller foundation according to bombshell testimony

1094
2:13:58 --> 2:14:03
of a cia agent who admits that covid vaccines were developed as a bioweapon to control humanity

1095
2:14:04 --> 2:14:08
so just in terms of the conversation we're having i thought you'd be interested to know that many

1096
2:14:08 --> 2:14:14
of you are subscribers to anna but she has just released that this morning you should know that

1097
2:14:14 --> 2:14:22
the cia whistleblower uh stated uh number one that um operation warp speed was a complete sham

1098
2:14:22 --> 2:14:29
it was a front that the cia developed the mrna vaccine and then we see attorney tom renz

1099
2:14:30 --> 2:14:38
and by the way that it was developed over 10 years ago and by the way tom renz the attorney

1100
2:14:38 --> 2:14:47
from ohio that's testified all over the world has a military army soldier from fort riley kansas with

1101
2:14:47 --> 2:14:53
documented medical records from that military base showing that he had the covid 19 vaccine in

1102
2:14:53 --> 2:15:05
2014 thank you chesa uh hi silly and james a wonderful presentation no surprise and silly

1103
2:15:05 --> 2:15:14
i meant to call you so i'll call you soon i'll call you too so question is uh more for silly

1104
2:15:14 --> 2:15:22
but really for anyone who who wants to answer so in uh my learned term deliberation about this

1105
2:15:22 --> 2:15:28
it seems like the main target of the depopulation is actually not europeans and not americans and

1106
2:15:28 --> 2:15:31
not people in developed countries because in the developed countries people are already pretty

1107
2:15:31 --> 2:15:37
damn sick and as far as fertility rates so it's barely a reproduction level so the main target is

1108
2:15:37 --> 2:15:44
africa and people who are still healthy in the developing world bad terms but you all know what

1109
2:15:44 --> 2:15:53
i mean so and because the westerners are put into great distress that is unusual for say the past

1110
2:15:53 --> 2:15:57
few decades and people are not used to that and people get selfish and really focused on themselves

1111
2:15:57 --> 2:16:01
which is human nature then nobody is paying attention to what's happening to you know people

1112
2:16:01 --> 2:16:06
who don't look like us and at the end of the day everybody gets thrown under the bus just under

1113
2:16:06 --> 2:16:13
different buses so as far as numbers and silly i know that we've talked about the whole african

1114
2:16:13 --> 2:16:19
effort before so what do you think about this theory that really the after africans i mean

1115
2:16:19 --> 2:16:25
because those are the people who are multiplying like rabbits they're still healthy they're still

1116
2:16:25 --> 2:16:29
the nature is more or less intact and they're really off to them and their richness and their

1117
2:16:29 --> 2:16:38
culture and all that i absolutely agree uh crossed africa in the early 90s and the aids coverage

1118
2:16:38 --> 2:16:46
did not the op the aid the the aids in africa op was a huge operation put in place

1119
2:16:47 --> 2:16:56
to tell african people that they were dying from having sex and they then the the where i lost my

1120
2:16:57 --> 2:17:05
ability to keep continue in my career at all was an article in harpers in 2006 that exposed how the

1121
2:17:05 --> 2:17:12
george the bush administration second bush administration with a huge i don't know how

1122
2:17:12 --> 2:17:24
many hundreds of billions in a a trans international plot that bought out all the african governments

1123
2:17:24 --> 2:17:30
and got them all testing for hiv and putting the pregnant women on a bunch of terrible drugs

1124
2:17:30 --> 2:17:37
primarily one called nevirapine which was so toxic it was rejected by every single safety agency in

1125
2:17:37 --> 2:17:46
the entire west so what did they do sent it to the developing world so i i i'm i spent decades up to

1126
2:17:46 --> 2:17:51
here with this and and it was like you just couldn't get the story across because people

1127
2:17:51 --> 2:17:57
had the spell oh africa aids is really bad and we're saving them we're saving them we're saving

1128
2:17:57 --> 2:18:02
drugs are so people have this op in their heads right if they if we give them drugs we're doing

1129
2:18:02 --> 2:18:08
a good thing that and now i don't hear much about it i don't know it's as you say i don't know what's

1130
2:18:08 --> 2:18:12
going on now but i absolutely agree with you that was their target there and their big obsession

1131
2:18:14 --> 2:18:21
and then when last i checked when i was in the aids data for all those decades the population

1132
2:18:21 --> 2:18:25
of the continent of africa had grown by the size of the united states between

1133
2:18:26 --> 2:18:30
the early 80s and when they said do you remember the cover stories that said

1134
2:18:30 --> 2:18:36
africa was going to be wiped off the map wiped off the map wiped so they project this weird

1135
2:18:36 --> 2:18:42
you know wishful thinking scenario they introduce the fake illness and then they have like just a

1136
2:18:42 --> 2:18:49
phalanx around the world of these professionals and these are like pharmaceutical funded gay men

1137
2:18:49 --> 2:18:55
in cities like new york and los angeles flying around the world dictating with african governments

1138
2:18:55 --> 2:19:03
what kind of chemicals african women should put on their genitals and what kind of birth

1139
2:19:03 --> 2:19:10
i mean it's it's it's so sick i was i was devastated for so long but i could never get anyone

1140
2:19:10 --> 2:19:16
to see the the racism and the horror of it it just sort of didn't resonate because they were so

1141
2:19:16 --> 2:19:21
successful with the africans are dying of aids i don't know if that answers your question but

1142
2:19:22 --> 2:19:26
oh it does thank you it's very interesting because even in the amendment in the who the

1143
2:19:26 --> 2:19:34
current situations there's allegedly uh the one of the uh statements is that well it's worded in

1144
2:19:34 --> 2:19:38
a way that is allegedly supporting indigenous rights even though it's the opposite of that so

1145
2:19:38 --> 2:19:44
that uh the the indigenous should be consulted whenever there's an invention but what it really

1146
2:19:44 --> 2:19:50
is is that they want the indigenous knowledge they want all the all the all the secrets they want

1147
2:19:50 --> 2:19:56
tell you something tessa you're right right on over the target because when the whole harper's

1148
2:19:56 --> 2:20:01
storm was over and i was attacked and cast up i said to jonathan fishbine the central whistleblower

1149
2:20:01 --> 2:20:09
of that piece i said jonathan what is this really about and he said it's about resources in africa

1150
2:20:10 --> 2:20:18
yep let's move on good point tessa we're tight for time jc we've been talking about christ

1151
2:20:18 --> 2:20:28
jim now we've got jc himself well thank you uh i want to ask dr thorpe um in terms of the women

1152
2:20:28 --> 2:20:34
who have been affected by the vaccination and have had difficulties with pregnancy will this

1153
2:20:35 --> 2:20:39
continue can they get how about subsequent pregnancies are they going to be affected as

1154
2:20:39 --> 2:20:46
well and secondly what happens to the babies that are born what's their ability to reproduce

1155
2:20:46 --> 2:20:51
these are really really important questions uh jerome and thanks for joining us great to see you

1156
2:20:52 --> 2:21:00
and um so uh the short answer is uh nobody knows but we are now having more and more evidence that

1157
2:21:00 --> 2:21:07
our worst nightmares are being um brought forth in front of us right now as we speak

1158
2:21:08 --> 2:21:16
um we we now have the the major journal article from lynn and colleagues in the american journal

1159
2:21:16 --> 2:21:22
of obstetrics and gynecology that's our main journal that showed that the vaccine mrna is indeed

1160
2:21:22 --> 2:21:28
across this right through the placenta which i've been saying for you know four years would uh not

1161
2:21:28 --> 2:21:34
only it sets up shop in the fetal blood sets up shop in the placenta like i've been seeing with

1162
2:21:34 --> 2:21:41
all these horrible pictures and more importantly it sets up shop in the chorion which i'm sorry

1163
2:21:41 --> 2:21:47
with the decidua which is the lining outside lining of the uterus why is that crucial because

1164
2:21:47 --> 2:21:55
that that the authors themselves said it is highly bioactive and they use a high signal for producing

1165
2:21:55 --> 2:22:01
spike protein well that's exactly where you would put the bio weapon if you wanted to destroy the

1166
2:22:01 --> 2:22:10
future of humanities and if this is integrated into the host dna like alden and colleagues showed

1167
2:22:10 --> 2:22:17
that it was two years ago then there could be potentially some devastating consequences now

1168
2:22:17 --> 2:22:26
alden's study was in the lab but it was human cells alden and colleagues in sveden two years ago

1169
2:22:26 --> 2:22:34
showed that the vaccine mrni is reverse transcribed and integrated into the dna of the human cell

1170
2:22:34 --> 2:22:45
now dr michael rezek has earlier this year published not a smoking gun but preliminary data

1171
2:22:45 --> 2:22:51
suggesting that indeed the same thing is happening in humans and by god if it's happening in the human

1172
2:22:51 --> 2:23:00
cells in the regular shell line so help us god if if it also is reverse transcribed into the human

1173
2:23:00 --> 2:23:07
gametes the ova and the sperm then humanity could be in grave trouble and by the way

1174
2:23:08 --> 2:23:16
my my friends that i work with who are expert in that areas are suggesting that that is happening

1175
2:23:16 --> 2:23:27
in the human body remember the movie you remember the movie utopia yeah yeah it's a very frightening

1176
2:23:27 --> 2:23:35
scenario but this if the spike protein continues to be produced by the body the mrna continues

1177
2:23:35 --> 2:23:40
to manufacture it one pregnancy difficulty is not going to be the end of the story

1178
2:23:40 --> 2:23:50
that's right um you know cilia and i um you know we are well known to a woman who has had

1179
2:23:51 --> 2:24:00
eight losses eight losses since she got the vaccine eight you know those were twins um and before

1180
2:24:00 --> 2:24:06
that she had a relatively normal pregnancy so there it doesn't seem to affect everybody drone

1181
2:24:07 --> 2:24:12
and i do want to bring that light of hope you know there's a lot of pregnant women that

1182
2:24:13 --> 2:24:21
and and apparently they're newborns that as best we can tell have tolerated the vaccine well and

1183
2:24:21 --> 2:24:28
the babies come out and allegedly at least so far appear to be normal um so i do want to encourage

1184
2:24:28 --> 2:24:34
people with that well i'm not sure all the doses the vaccine that were released were equally lethal

1185
2:24:34 --> 2:24:40
on intentionally in order to produce this kind of result but i think the ones that were released

1186
2:24:40 --> 2:24:45
that were designed to be intentional will produce a permanent result and i think ultimately i don't

1187
2:24:45 --> 2:24:52
want what's your opinion i think it'll ultimately affect the dna and therefore become a replicated

1188
2:24:52 --> 2:25:00
part of the human system i hope to god not but i'm afraid you you could be right i'm afraid i could

1189
2:25:00 --> 2:25:06
be right too thank you thank you thank you cilia you're one of the presenters you don't have to

1190
2:25:06 --> 2:25:12
put your hand up and you got your hand up so you're next oh i can it was before i wanted to say about

1191
2:25:12 --> 2:25:17
the hatred of women and the men are women that so that's when i put my hand up so

1192
2:25:17 --> 2:25:23
you can move on i have to tell you i'm constantly breaching i'm constantly breaching cilia the

1193
2:25:23 --> 2:25:30
australian anti-discrimination laws because i i i refuse to have sex with a man i discriminate

1194
2:25:30 --> 2:25:40
against men vera good for you i want to disagree a little bit i think that the third world and

1195
2:25:40 --> 2:25:49
africa in particular have been all along the laboratory but now they brought it here now they

1196
2:25:49 --> 2:25:55
brought it to the west and i think part of it has to do with since you talked about money yeah

1197
2:25:55 --> 2:26:02
where's the money where the money america in europe is where you can get the highest

1198
2:26:03 --> 2:26:11
amount for whatever medical countermeasure you launch so of course they're going to go

1199
2:26:11 --> 2:26:20
here now they will it's not as though they no longer care about reducing the population in

1200
2:26:20 --> 2:26:27
africa of course they do but they have time they want to cash in first they can't cash in there

1201
2:26:27 --> 2:26:35
so i think really we are now in the crosshairs and also politically just think about it they want to

1202
2:26:35 --> 2:26:42
take us down because we you know uh still hold some power

1203
2:26:45 --> 2:26:51
actually agree i agree vera yeah i agree i mean i sort of you know i think both now i want to

1204
2:26:52 --> 2:27:00
as far as you know the the uh moral and spiritual take down you know i mean really the worst is what

1205
2:27:00 --> 2:27:06
you're dealing with you know in my book i'm dealing with the whole scope from the holocaust on

1206
2:27:08 --> 2:27:15
but you know they have gone so far as in canada for example assisted suicide is another way they're

1207
2:27:15 --> 2:27:25
getting rid of people very encouraging in fact they're encouraging children to to say i want to

1208
2:27:25 --> 2:27:31
die to honor that with or without parental consent now where are we going

1209
2:27:32 --> 2:27:39
where are we where are we we're really smacked in the what should i say the um

1210
2:27:41 --> 2:27:46
what the nazis started this is now full bloom it's far beyond

1211
2:27:48 --> 2:27:54
and as far as the medical profession which you know i've talked about right from the get-go

1212
2:27:54 --> 2:28:02
comparing the two because they really are so similar in without the doctors this couldn't be

1213
2:28:02 --> 2:28:12
done people mother doctors well without the it wouldn't be done now um

1214
2:28:16 --> 2:28:22
you know i mean this is really what's interesting i don't know if any of you have noticed but i found

1215
2:28:22 --> 2:28:37
that the lancet november 2023 published 829 articles about medicine and the holocaust

1216
2:28:38 --> 2:28:49
nazi medicine me i wonder why why in 2023 all of a sudden some of these articles have been published

1217
2:28:49 --> 2:28:59
long ago they're repubs that's that's okay but 829 november 2023 and guess what in march 2024

1218
2:28:59 --> 2:29:10
the new england journal of medicine devoted an issue to nazi medicine why now why a lead article

1219
2:29:10 --> 2:29:14
in the new england by somebody lombardo

1220
2:29:17 --> 2:29:23
admits that the new england throughout its entire history and i've gone through this for the book so

1221
2:29:23 --> 2:29:32
i'm he's quite right throughout its entire history has never touched it and has promoted eugenics

1222
2:29:32 --> 2:29:42
that's the that's the common thread this is a continuum just grown you know with the technology

1223
2:29:42 --> 2:29:52
so much bigger and a lot of it is invisible we're being attacked multi attacks it isn't only the

1224
2:29:52 --> 2:30:00
it isn't only the wounds it's also out there the electronic all this stuff this has been

1225
2:30:00 --> 2:30:07
in the planning even since before the nazis because they tinkered with a lot of this research

1226
2:30:09 --> 2:30:15
but now it's full blown and we're you know caught off guard but i would still

1227
2:30:16 --> 2:30:23
like to emphasize what does it mean when the top journals in the medical field are suddenly

1228
2:30:23 --> 2:30:30
a slew of articles why are they nervous so vera why do you think they've done that

1229
2:30:32 --> 2:30:37
you know when i first started to say i see parallels and that was really in 2020

1230
2:30:38 --> 2:30:45
oh people don't say that oh that no no no no and no you can't say that the hospital's

1231
2:30:45 --> 2:30:52
meant to kill the elderly and i said oh yes they did yes they did yeah protocols and they're still

1232
2:30:52 --> 2:31:01
doing it you know elderly and disabled those were the populations that the nazis also regard as

1233
2:31:02 --> 2:31:06
worthless eaters you know what now they're called worthless people

1234
2:31:09 --> 2:31:14
worthless people now you know it doesn't get much more direct

1235
2:31:17 --> 2:31:23
so i hope when we get a little bit further in our book which it's almost almost time to give it to

1236
2:31:23 --> 2:31:33
the publisher i'd like to let you know about it why do you think that the lancets and the nejm

1237
2:31:33 --> 2:31:39
have raised something which could possibly be to the detriment of them

1238
2:31:43 --> 2:31:51
well maybe more and more people have been either whispering about it or you know there

1239
2:31:51 --> 2:31:58
as we see in the science which it's laid out i mean they really don't have a leg to stand on

1240
2:31:58 --> 2:32:03
but they've got the power they're holding on to the power they're holding on to the money

1241
2:32:03 --> 2:32:10
and they control with the money they control all the uh the journals the universities listen

1242
2:32:10 --> 2:32:17
whether it's billions or trillions you know it's a lot of money and when did universities ever get

1243
2:32:18 --> 2:32:26
that kind of money but i guess they're doing their job they're fulfilling their job they had a job

1244
2:32:26 --> 2:32:33
to do and they've been very aggressive at it and all united all in lockstep absolutely you

1245
2:32:33 --> 2:32:39
all right that's a big vera vera that's a big question we've got three hands up to steven has

1246
2:32:39 --> 2:32:44
to finish we're over time but we will get through these three questions quickly then steven final

1247
2:32:44 --> 2:32:50
question celia and jim are you okay for another 15 minutes absolutely okay great all right

1248
2:32:50 --> 2:32:53
vera great food for thought anders

1249
2:32:56 --> 2:33:07
yes hello so um i picked up something about this matter of that some women do not have this problem

1250
2:33:07 --> 2:33:16
with the pregnancy and in my studies i found that it might be that there is a correlation to that

1251
2:33:16 --> 2:33:29
because the jabs they are electromagnetic with positively charged lnp hydrogel and magnetic

1252
2:33:30 --> 2:33:38
graphene titanium iron etc so so i don't want to go into the discussion with spike protein but let's

1253
2:33:38 --> 2:33:47
say in my theory then my narrative it might be that people who live rural who do not have enough

1254
2:33:48 --> 2:33:56
or too much exposure to these electromagnetic radiations they might not be as much exposed to

1255
2:33:56 --> 2:34:03
the harm in the in the pregnancy and this is a theory which could be confirmed and checked if

1256
2:34:03 --> 2:34:09
you check where these people who have not been affected where do they live so i that's a challenge

1257
2:34:09 --> 2:34:18
to you if you can look into what is the anomaly with those who have not have that negative effect

1258
2:34:18 --> 2:34:25
that's a question if you have checked on it or if you might look into it we have not checked on it i

1259
2:34:25 --> 2:34:33
think that's fascinating i'll email you on this and we'll see if we can work it in what do you think

1260
2:34:33 --> 2:34:43
jim sure um the publisher's uh ready to go yeah i know we have we just have a matter of days but uh

1261
2:34:44 --> 2:34:50
i think what what's missing and what we all really want to know is is there anything that can be said

1262
2:34:50 --> 2:34:56
about who might be spared so i'm very interested in that we may not have time but

1263
2:34:58 --> 2:35:02
i salute you for trying to find it you know keep trying to find it it's very important

1264
2:35:02 --> 2:35:10
very and if it is if i'm right then there is if there are detox protocols to get those magnetic

1265
2:35:10 --> 2:35:20
metals out that might be a way to cure them right so in brief do you think maybe intravenous edta

1266
2:35:20 --> 2:35:26
is a good thing i don't want to talk about any specific that is not so good but let's say anything

1267
2:35:26 --> 2:35:34
which take those things out without harming okay all right thank you thank you anders on we go

1268
2:35:34 --> 2:35:41
jim marv and then stephen to finish hey jim how are you um thanks very much for a great

1269
2:35:41 --> 2:35:49
presentation thanks very much uh cecilia as well um you you know my thoughts the sarz cov2 spike

1270
2:35:49 --> 2:35:55
protein you know who might be spared the people who repel the ace 2 receptor and the ace 2 receptor

1271
2:35:55 --> 2:36:03
designed by jason mclellan has an active there it's a trimer three ace twos and one of them is

1272
2:36:03 --> 2:36:09
placed in the up position which means it binds so the ace 2 is racially and i shouldn't say

1273
2:36:09 --> 2:36:14
racial genetically specific and it repels the ace 2 receptor the k26r

1274
2:36:15 --> 2:36:23
um ace 2 receptor and and and so there's your theoretical specificity of people who might not

1275
2:36:23 --> 2:36:31
be harmed by this um so that addresses why the people who are designing this would have designed

1276
2:36:31 --> 2:36:37
it not to harm them and not to harm their children uh not to harm not to bind to the ace 2 receptors

1277
2:36:37 --> 2:36:43
in their brains and uh we can talk about this later on and and uh and you've talked to some

1278
2:36:43 --> 2:36:50
people about the amish who may share the ace 2 receptor as well um my question is can i

1279
2:36:50 --> 2:36:58
introduce for a second the amish what what about the amish they're in a good spot the amish red

1280
2:36:58 --> 2:37:06
hair uh from the area of the uh ukraine originally um also may share the ace 2 receptor k26r

1281
2:37:07 --> 2:37:14
with the uh with the kisarians that may not be affected by the sars-cov-2 spike protein ace 2

1282
2:37:14 --> 2:37:19
that's what bobby kennedy was mentioning when they freaked out yeah he said that he was lambasted

1283
2:37:19 --> 2:37:25
until until he was joined as a third party candidate to throw the election uh for the

1284
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intelligence operative candidate whoever that might be because when you have three people just

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like the uh just like ross perot you know uh it's a free for all with the uh people who rig the

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elections this goes back to the department of defense and the intelligence community if they

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designed it they they had the antidotes right if the cia and the department of defense and the

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and the six eyes networks designed it then they have the antidotes they don't design a weapon

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without the antidotes and they know they're genetically specific so they have the genetic

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2:37:56 --> 2:38:02
specific endos we have to ask them respectfully because they can kill us and uh and the question

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is the white house pandemic office the white house pandemic office is now run by the brigadier

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general former advisor to the joint chiefs seems have you guys addressed him and shown your data

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to the white house pandemic office because they are in charge of promoting the vaccines with the

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with the pastors they're the ones who are running the program the white house

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2:38:28 --> 2:38:34
pandemic so i'd like you to maybe formulate something and and i'm wondering have you

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addressed your and do you have documents that you've actually sent to acog and the american

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medical association have you actually discussed sent your data directly to the chairman of the

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board of the a of the ama and and that would be a very important and getting a transcript of this

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2:38:49 --> 2:38:56
call is one thing but getting assigned and and witnessed by two people affidavit that's a

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2:38:56 --> 2:39:02
self-proving affidavit so even if they kill you it's still admissible in court we need to start

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2:39:02 --> 2:39:09
giving the information to the opposition or to the people who say that they don't understand

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2:39:10 --> 2:39:15
this spike protein is a weapon including the guy who designed it jason mcclellan

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2:39:16 --> 2:39:21
we need to so so now going back to what's coming in the future we know that the avian flu peter

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2:39:21 --> 2:39:29
mccullough said avian flu is a disease x we know that they're culling animals we're culling things

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2:39:29 --> 2:39:37
we also have documentation that hydroxy chloroquine stops avian flu yes and maybe yeah

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2:39:38 --> 2:39:43
chloroquine definitely yeah and so the is it looks like if you were making a biotera weapon

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2:39:43 --> 2:39:49
wouldn't you make one antidote or a set of antidotes to kill them all and then make sure

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2:39:49 --> 2:39:54
your friends had those antidotes while everybody else was forbidden to have those antidotes so the

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question is maybe and we know the hydroxy chloroquine half-life is 22 days so maybe

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2:40:00 --> 2:40:05
taking a you know i'm not anybody's physician here ask your physician but maybe taking a pill

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2:40:05 --> 2:40:10
of hydroxy chloroquine every month or every two weeks maybe beneficial and decreasing the likelihood

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of acquiring this disease and and you talked about the the safety of hydroxy chloroquine in pregnancy

1313
2:40:20 --> 2:40:25
maybe everybody who's pregnant or even the even women are not precluded from taking the hydroxy

1314
2:40:25 --> 2:40:30
chloroquine because we know it's very safe that's true so in this we should we should maybe be

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2:40:30 --> 2:40:35
telling the white house pandemic office and the ama and everybody to start giving hydroxy chloroquine

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2:40:36 --> 2:40:40
at least one pill a month to everybody in the united states including pregnant women who we

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2:40:40 --> 2:40:45
know it's safe in and and maybe we have to get ahead of these people because it looks like

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2:40:45 --> 2:40:52
hydroxy chloroquine may or chloroquine may also prevent zika okay jim jim so the well we don't

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believe pandemics occur jim i don't anyway well that's okay anyway you've expressed that

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i don't know anybody has a option expressed that beautifully jim take on board cilia take on board

1321
2:41:04 --> 2:41:11
thank you jim marvin and steven tempus fugit as the as the romans would say marv i want to ask

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2:41:13 --> 2:41:20
james uh you know we have an exploding mental illness in america do you see a correlation or

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2:41:20 --> 2:41:28
causation of this mental illness epidemic with the our insane vaccine schedule that absolutely

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for absolutely i've published on that and and i spoke on that earlier when a year ago and again

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2:41:36 --> 2:41:42
just a month ago when i used a governmental database there's there's a extraordinarily high

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2:41:43 --> 2:41:50
uh breach of safety signal where the covet 19 vaccine is causing um not only psychiatric

1327
2:41:50 --> 2:41:56
illnesses there's about six diagnoses in their database but number two it causes substantial

1328
2:41:56 --> 2:42:04
increase in intellectual ability in dementia in inability to connect the dots and number three

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2:42:04 --> 2:42:10
causes an increase or associated with an increase i should correct myself with suicide and suicidal

1330
2:42:10 --> 2:42:18
ideation when you compare covet 19 versus all the other vaccines or even versus influenza vaccine

1331
2:42:19 --> 2:42:27
are you identifying specific organic places in the brain now well i haven't and varus doesn't

1332
2:42:27 --> 2:42:33
have the granularity to do that but it's a great question we know the spike protein is produced in

1333
2:42:33 --> 2:42:38
you know pretty much every cell of the body it reaches with the lipid nanoparticle now

1334
2:42:38 --> 2:42:44
and so um you know inflammation causes problems in the brain

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2:42:46 --> 2:42:52
i can say this real quick there is a video online i think it's from about 2015's department of

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2:42:52 --> 2:43:01
defense maybe this maybe some of you have seen it the presenter is presenting a vaccine that targets

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2:43:01 --> 2:43:12
religious fervor in the middle east he says this vaccine can stop religious you know passion or

1338
2:43:12 --> 2:43:18
conviction in middle eastern people that's what the presentation is i can't drop it in the comments

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2:43:18 --> 2:43:22
it would take me a while to find it but i've i've seen it a couple of times so and that was many

1340
2:43:22 --> 2:43:29
years ago so absolutely and and i've seen that too i can corroborate that all right very good

1341
2:43:29 --> 2:43:34
thank you thank you marv all right last couple of questions to steven and thank you cilia and

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jim for being here this long steven can i jump really fast i think that was a hoax guys that was

1343
2:43:41 --> 2:43:47
a video footage from a movie and my friend wrote an article using that and he got corrected so i'm

1344
2:43:47 --> 2:43:52
not sure but that was our understanding that wasn't real but you know just putting that out there

1345
2:43:52 --> 2:44:02
okay thanks thanks amy that's helpful thank you steven so um yeah so today we've been

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2:44:03 --> 2:44:10
very fortunate to have two remarkable whistleblowers in there you know cilia with

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2:44:10 --> 2:44:16
all the history of hiv and all the rest thalidomide and and then

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2:44:16 --> 2:44:27
uh james thought with uh all this stuff about uh this uh vaccine um i oh before i forget peter

1349
2:44:27 --> 2:44:32
underwood could you please contact me with the evidence you've got from the government as i

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2:44:32 --> 2:44:37
understood it giving training courses to the people who to the advisors who work for the citizens

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2:44:38 --> 2:44:47
advice bureau uh responsible for such phrases as vaccine buddy could you yeah i've got the complete

1352
2:44:47 --> 2:44:54
set uh steven um i'm not sure i've got your email if you could put that in the chat so it's steven

1353
2:44:55 --> 2:45:02
yeah i haven't got time so steven with a ph dot frost as in jack frost at bt internet dot com bt

1354
2:45:02 --> 2:45:10
internet dot com yeah yeah okay bt internet dot com yeah okay i'll compile a complete set for you

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2:45:10 --> 2:45:16
yeah and i just wanted to say very quickly that i was a little bit so vera shirav talking about the

1356
2:45:16 --> 2:45:23
very important information about november 23 the lancet and march 24 as i heard any jm

1357
2:45:24 --> 2:45:30
both talking about nazi medicine very interesting is that gaslighting this is just a rhetorical

1358
2:45:30 --> 2:45:35
question uh is it gaslighting or they're just trying to get people used to the idea that it's

1359
2:45:35 --> 2:45:41
kind of acceptable or whatever um as far as the bird flu and the zika goes i don't think that

1360
2:45:41 --> 2:45:47
pandemics are possible because a deadly virus if viruses exist kills its host therefore pandemic

1361
2:45:47 --> 2:45:54
can't occur and i think the whole diagnosis of covid 19 or avian flu for that matter bird flu

1362
2:45:54 --> 2:46:03
uh is um a misdiagnosis and i have my reasons for that but i won't go into that i wanted to

1363
2:46:03 --> 2:46:11
ask about we the intentional varying of lethality of the injections was mentioned i think that that's

1364
2:46:11 --> 2:46:21
evidence of crime um and um in very serious crime in this case and also i think that i was puzzled

1365
2:46:21 --> 2:46:27
about the uh you know we were dealing with a an injection we didn't even know what the

1366
2:46:28 --> 2:46:35
contents were so quite apart from informed consent not being possible uh you would have thought

1367
2:46:35 --> 2:46:43
because women weigh on average i think around about half to two-thirds of the weight so an

1368
2:46:43 --> 2:46:51
average woman not not all an average woman lives uh weighs about half to two-thirds the weight of

1369
2:46:51 --> 2:46:57
the average man so if they were targeting women then it was remarkable because i was thinking if

1370
2:46:57 --> 2:47:03
it's dangerous this injection there was no informed consent nobody knew what was in the so there

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couldn't have been informed consent no doctors in the world knew what was in the injections and i

1372
2:47:08 --> 2:47:21
still don't um then um uh so the point is this the dose dependence uh was ignored so the dose

1373
2:47:21 --> 2:47:29
was ignored for women and men so we know as doctors that if you've got a uh you need to with a dodgy

1374
2:47:29 --> 2:47:36
uh a medicine or one that you're not sure of you would maybe uh say well don't give the women

1375
2:47:36 --> 2:47:42
and particularly not pregnant with the full dose you know but they did that but they also were

1376
2:47:42 --> 2:47:47
mixing and matching if you remember so you could have the AstraZeneca in the UK and then you could

1377
2:47:47 --> 2:47:56
have the um J&J or the uh Pfizer is outrageous uh you know i thought at the time why have none of

1378
2:47:56 --> 2:48:05
the doctors noticed this so um so anyway so i don't i wonder what you think of that uh in particular

1379
2:48:05 --> 2:48:13
James but also i encourage you i think it would be great to get a transcript of this call um and

1380
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but i also i encourage you please to remember to name the bastards responsible for this the worst

1381
2:48:21 --> 2:48:32
ones thank you so much yeah i think your comments regarding the variance in lethality is really a

1382
2:48:32 --> 2:48:38
strong smoking gun for criminality uh you know you look at the study by Schmeling and colleagues

1383
2:48:39 --> 2:48:45
from northern europe and it's interesting i'm in rough figures about 70 percent of the individuals

1384
2:48:45 --> 2:48:52
that got the vaccine they they knew they had the vaccine they had significant um effects either

1385
2:48:52 --> 2:48:59
locally either minor but they were very significant but 30 percent apparently had absolutely nothing

1386
2:48:59 --> 2:49:07
as if they got saline or nothing and then of course um the five percent um were very severely

1387
2:49:07 --> 2:49:14
injured or or died i'm i'm averaging those out rough estimates so then what's the cause of the

1388
2:49:14 --> 2:49:21
variance there's no good answer for that that can suggest that um there's not some intention involved

1389
2:49:22 --> 2:49:29
if they were experimenting and giving placebo that violated that's very serious criminal behavior

1390
2:49:30 --> 2:49:38
if if there was some other purpose uh that's it's not good and also james what what do you think

1391
2:49:38 --> 2:49:45
is the medical doctor about the lack of advice for women you know so a woman who is the average

1392
2:49:45 --> 2:49:52
woman is half to a third of the weight of the average man um and we know as doctors that if you

1393
2:49:52 --> 2:49:59
that you should vary the dose uh according to the weight if uh yes with certain drugs that's

1394
2:49:59 --> 2:50:07
happening so why wasn't it in this case why was it so kamikaze or uh reckless and missing a matching

1395
2:50:07 --> 2:50:14
as well well great point i mean it's a your your point with regard to a dose per body weight is

1396
2:50:14 --> 2:50:22
very important and and even more to your point why was a pfizer uh 30 microgram of mrna

1397
2:50:23 --> 2:50:30
and i believe maderna originally was three times that 90 microgram of mrna

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and they reduced it

1399
2:50:37 --> 2:50:44
james they they reduced it from 90 to 30 micrograms no when they originally came out

1400
2:50:44 --> 2:50:52
um as i understand steven that they that their original dose was uh was of maderna was three

1401
2:50:52 --> 2:50:59
times that of mrna it was 90 microgram whereas pfizer was 30 microgram that's my understanding

1402
2:51:00 --> 2:51:08
wow yeah that would create even more confusion so it seems to me that if they did have placebos

1403
2:51:09 --> 2:51:14
uh in different uh goodness knows how they would do that but but that is uh

1404
2:51:16 --> 2:51:22
just pure recklessness because actually without they're playing god aren't they there

1405
2:51:22 --> 2:51:26
let's remember there's another really important point here steven that that you're touching on

1406
2:51:26 --> 2:51:35
and that is this remember the process of the phase uh before the rollout they did a horrible

1407
2:51:35 --> 2:51:43
bait and switch um the manufacturing process for the vaccine before the public rollout

1408
2:51:43 --> 2:51:51
was totally different it was a totally different process and when they got the eua and the mass

1409
2:51:51 --> 2:51:59
rollout rolled out they completely did another separate mass rollout then that in of itself is

1410
2:51:59 --> 2:52:04
illegal because that should have been studied and it wasn't and that purportedly you know certainly

1411
2:52:04 --> 2:52:10
caused a lot of variance in the batches but it also causes confusion and that plays into their

1412
2:52:11 --> 2:52:17
role in creating fear and when when human beings are afraid they do ridiculous things

1413
2:52:18 --> 2:52:26
and they know that i think so um and what about the naming the people the bastards uh responsible

1414
2:52:27 --> 2:52:35
i'm naming them i name them every day in the book will it will it be mentioned in the book

1415
2:52:35 --> 2:52:41
but you don't have to say now thanks to you it will thanks to you and this meeting it will

1416
2:52:41 --> 2:52:46
yeah so charles uh raised it but i'm yes oh you and charles and this meeting i will

1417
2:52:47 --> 2:52:51
i'm i'm making the executive editorial decision right now that's gonna

1418
2:52:51 --> 2:52:58
have all right we're at the three hour mark i'm shocked that jim and cilia have you haven't been

1419
2:52:58 --> 2:53:04
in the toilet yet steven great questions everybody great questions um steven would you thank jim and

1420
2:53:04 --> 2:53:12
cilia for this contribution to our learning well obviously thank you so much jim and uh cilia

1421
2:53:12 --> 2:53:19
brilliance and the point that i make everybody at war steven remember in a war there are soldiers

1422
2:53:19 --> 2:53:24
jim is a soldier on the front line but the cilia you touched on it you know the point of these

1423
2:53:24 --> 2:53:31
meetings is for us to come together almost like a house you know a conversation or we're like we're

1424
2:53:31 --> 2:53:38
like the restaurant on the you know behind the front lines feeding people spiritually and mentally

1425
2:53:38 --> 2:53:43
so then go back into the war and fight the war so you know every point this is where we find out

1426
2:53:44 --> 2:53:50
so this is where we find our allies we need allies in the war we absolutely need allies and one thing

1427
2:53:50 --> 2:53:56
i want to say very briefly is you know there's this little cottage industry you might say that's

1428
2:53:56 --> 2:54:01
always taking aim at the wellness company i have nothing to do with the wellness company

1429
2:54:02 --> 2:54:08
when we're the other but i feel that the enemy is going to exploit that kind of thing and i'm

1430
2:54:08 --> 2:54:13
just kind of dreading that and anybody who can that's exactly what's going on and charles i

1431
2:54:13 --> 2:54:18
appreciate the compliment for uh not having to get up to go to the bathroom but i i have a

1432
2:54:18 --> 2:54:23
confession to make and that's because i've got i had a suit coat and a tie and a shirt on but

1433
2:54:23 --> 2:54:29
there's nothing on under that so i needed to go to the bathroom but i can't stand up

1434
2:54:31 --> 2:54:37
beautifully put i love it i love it i love it but seriously you guys this thing about like inside

1435
2:54:37 --> 2:54:45
the movement this the main theme seems to be people like us being attacked for being all kinds

1436
2:54:45 --> 2:54:50
of things and that's actually very very hazardous when you're on the front line as i've been for a

1437
2:54:50 --> 2:54:57
very long time i don't know what to do about it but just ignore it you know ignore it cilia

1438
2:54:57 --> 2:55:02
that's what i do yeah i'm not so good at that but yeah they've already come after us and said that

1439
2:55:02 --> 2:55:12
we're of all things grifters it's just it's just insane what a ridiculous word as well i know well

1440
2:55:12 --> 2:55:18
right but what i'm saying is i they already have a powerful troll factory in place just from

1441
2:55:18 --> 2:55:23
jim putting the cover up the book isn't even out so i'm not being negative i've just been through

1442
2:55:23 --> 2:55:30
it so many times so many ways and uh we just remember remember brandy vaughn remember brandy

1443
2:55:30 --> 2:55:36
vaughn she remember who yeah she was knocked off and uh i'm not threatening you guys but i'm

1444
2:55:36 --> 2:55:41
going to stand up here in a little bit and go to the bathroom all right everybody thank you thank

1445
2:55:41 --> 2:55:46
you cilia thank you for all the thank you for having contributions thanks for having us

1446
2:55:47 --> 2:55:54
see you next time bye bye thanks steve thanks everybody thank you jim thank you cilia i agree

1447
2:55:54 --> 2:56:00
with you the words are very important the words which you use and and that's why the classics are

1448
2:56:00 --> 2:56:07
so important because they they tested the words i think the messages are made powerful by the

1449
2:56:07 --> 2:56:13
words chosen what do you know about this that's right be a be a diplomat so that when you tell

1450
2:56:13 --> 2:56:16
people to go to hell it's you can tell them to go to hell in such a way that they're looking

1451
2:56:16 --> 2:56:17
forward to the journey

1452
2:56:20 --> 2:56:21
bye everybody

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ablas bye bye we continue