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And now welcome to our guest presenter, Bradley C.
Birkenfeld.
And thank you, Brad, for giving us your time, wisdom and insights.
And let me say a few things for the purposes of the recording for those who did not receive the
invitation. You are a world renowned UBS Bank whistleblower, an American citizen, popularly known as
Lucifer's Banker.
And you were awarded $104 million by the Inland Revenue Service for your whistleblowing
success.
Your mantra is, I have 104 million reasons why I'm right.
You're considered the most significant financial whistleblower in history and the author of
Lucifer's Bankers Uncensored, the untold story of how I destroyed Swiss bank secrecy.
Brad, welcome and thank you, Stephen Frost, for creating this group and for organizing
Brad to speak to us today.
Over to you, Brad, and you can share your screen if you wish.
It is shared, no?
Try now.
It's my screen.
So I can't remember.
Where is it?
Right there, David.
Sorry.
My screen is there, no?
Do you see my face?
Not yet.
We can see your face, but we can't see.
So if you want to show any slides, Bradley, or documents, secret documents from Switzerland,
Swiss banks.
That's mainly on my website, which we can discuss.
I mean, there's various documents there and that's really quite extensive, but certainly
I'll start off by saying first, thank you, gentlemen.
It's a pleasure to be here.
I hope your audience finds this actually informative and educational.
It's important to understand what I did in the scope of the financial industry as well
as whistleblowing.
And what people must understand is they hear about the award I received, which is quite
sizable, but people have to understand that that law was not passed when I started whistleblowing.
I had no idea it even existed once it was passed.
So people have to understand the timeline is very important because I started whistleblowing
back in 2005 while I was still at UBS in Geneva, Switzerland, and the law was passed in
December 2006.
So the timeline is very important.
And that's the first thing.
The second thing is, is that whistleblowing really encompasses so much in our society and
encompasses things such as transparency, accountability and integrity.
Why is it important?
Well, if we start to look at the reasons why whistleblowing was first enacted in the United
States, which became the most successful law in U.S.
history to retrieve ill-gotten gains back to the government.
It was first started by Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War, when people were ripping off
the U.S.
government during selling cannons and gunpowder and so forth.
And it was called the fall in Keaton in the name of the king, which reverts back to the
UK, where you protect the king's interests in Latin.
That was actually enacted by President Lincoln to pay people a small percentage if they
expose ways for audit corruption against the government.
That was back in 1863.
Now, we fast forward to in the 1980s, Senator Charles Grassley from Iowa amended the laws
to make it stronger. And over three times, he improved the laws to make sure that whistleblowers
were not just protected, but they were also compensated for having the courage to come
forward. Now, the opposite argument could be that you should just do it out of your
righteousness, out of doing the right thing.
The problem with that is when you take any whistleblower in any industry, in any country,
the problem is retaliation, blackballing, firing, possibly divorce if you're married,
your kids will be bullied.
You may have mental issues as a result of this because it's so traumatic and so on and
so forth. So what people have to understand is, is to have the courage to come forward
and whistleblow takes takes so much from the individual because they feel as though
they're they're sacrificing everything, their reputation, their career, their livelihood,
their family and so on and so forth.
So I think whistleblowing really is a big part of public policy, not just in America.
It's worldwide and everyone should embrace it.
Why? Because what you're what you're essentially doing is you're eradicating waste,
fraud and corruption in society.
Now, again, the argument would be, well, let law enforcement do it.
Unfortunately, law enforcement cannot do it for a variety of reasons.
Either they're corrupt or they're under budgeted or they're understaffed and they can't
possibly uncover all the crimes that exist of the large nature.
I don't mean small things, but meaning over half a million to a million and above big
corporate crimes that exist in every industry, in the military, pharmaceutical, finance,
construction and so on and so forth.
So what essentially has happened here is the United States has enacted this law and
improved the law over the years to actually pay whistleblowers 15 to 30 percent of the
proceeds of the crime.
This is very important.
It doesn't come from the taxpayer.
It comes from the crime they exposed.
So what essentially happens here is the whistleblower on the inside knows exactly what's
going on and can delay deliver that to law enforcement, which saves time, money and
gets to the core of the problem to eradicate the crime.
This is the number one solution to eradicating crime in the world today.
Otherwise, it takes too much time.
It gets bogged down in bureaucracy.
As I said, law enforcement can't possibly know about every crime.
Or as I said, maybe they're part of the crime.
They're corrupt, they're colluding and so forth.
So what you must do is have a strong whistleblowing policy and a law that protects and
pays whistleblowers.
Now, as there's, I'm sure, quite a number of people on this Zoom call from the UK, we
can go back to the Napoleonic and the British Amity laws of the 16 and 1700s.
The laws were very clear on the maritime law.
If you had taken over a foreign ship, whether it was a pirate ship or an enemy or what
have you, the proceeds of that takeover were then shared among the crew.
Why?
Because it was a way of compensating them.
That is something that has been done for hundreds of years.
Now, today, what do we have?
We have major drug dealers, armed smugglers, terrorists, insider traders and so on and
so forth. How are you going to get to these people who are so sophisticated?
How are you possibly going to get all the information that you need to have to get these
people brought to justice?
A whistleblower and a whistleblowing law will allow these people to feel as though they
could come in anonymously so they are protected.
But also, they will then be compensated because, quite frankly, they are giving up their
livelihood and their career by taking this courageous step forward.
I think it's very important for people to understand that.
And I think that's something that in my case was very important.
But yet I did it because I knew it was the right thing to do.
There was no law at the time.
The law passed a year and a half after I started my whistleblowing and resigned from UBS.
I wasn't fired.
So I think that's my beginning intro.
I hope that sort of lays the groundwork for what we're discussing here this evening.
So, Brad, I can.
So could you explain?
So people are obviously for the right reasons in a way, because they're human beings, you
know, they're very interested in how you were rewarded so much money, how the American
government managed to put you in prison and another arm of the government rewarded you
with a massive payout in the terms of most people on this call anyway, maybe not with
with the people you are representing in the Swiss, in UBS.
So could you explain where that money came from in your case?
If you know, certainly.
And if you have your lawyer's permission to do that, I think I heard one of your lawyers
saying at the press conference where it was announced that the IRS had awarded this sum
to you, that the money came from the seven hundred and fifty seven hundred and eighty
four million, I think it was dollar fine, which the American government imposed on UBS.
Is that but but but but there were there were some questions from the
press saying, what about future?
Because it was quite early.
So they hadn't had time to so sorry, get all the hay, if you like, from your whistleblowing
disclosures. So I think they were like in the end, it was 18 billion was recovered by
the United States government. Is that correct?
Well, it's it's I'll start with the big the first part of your question first and come
back to that. The final UBS was a pittance.
It was really a cover up by the U.S. government.
I can say that candidly because it's very simple.
I gave the numbers I gave in the deferred prosecution agreement that UBS was given by
the Department of Justice was a joke.
We made two hundred million dollars a year and over an eight year period from 2000 to
2007 was the window that they looked at.
So quick math will tell you eight years times 200 is one point six billion dollars.
That's just what they made out of illegal profits.
So the fine was seven hundred eighty million, which was really quite laughable.
And two hundred million of that went to the SEC Securities and Exchange Commission in
the U.S. So five eighty was left for the IRS.
They carved out one hundred and eighty million and said that was disgorgement.
And out of the four hundred million, I got the highest percentage of any whistleblower,
26 percent. So the range is 15 to 30.
They gave me 26 percent.
So if you take 26 percent times four hundred million, you come up with one hundred and
four million. That was my award.
I paid tax on that money, of course, and my net check was seventy five million in
change, which is on my website, Lucifer Spanker Dotcom.
You can see it there. But what's important here is very, very important is number one,
that the fine was not justified.
It was not reasonable.
And for the very simple fact that remember, as I said, seven hundred eighty, two hundred
went to the SEC, five eighty was left.
But if it was an eight year period and they made two hundred million, that's one point
six billion. Where's the other billion dollars?
Why would they find more money?
At the time, Barack Obama was receiving bundled campaign contributions from Robert
Wolf, the chairman of UBS Americas.
There's your first problem that he put him on two of his committees in the White
House. That's the second problem.
The third problem was Eric Holder, the attorney general, represented UBS in private
practice at Covington in Berlin.
He's conflicted. Then you put Hillary Clinton, who was the secretary of state, in
charge of an international criminal investigation.
This is absolutely forbidden.
It should have been Treasury Department or the FBI or a combination thereof.
She had a conflict for various reasons.
One of my clients was the largest contributor to her husband's campaign, the
number one contributor in the world, Jack Manning.
He was the head of Boston Capital in Boston.
This is all in my book, Lucifer's Bank Uncensored.
You can read about it. If I lied, there should be lawsuits.
There hasn't been one lawsuit, not one.
To the contrary, nobody wanted to publish my book in America.
Not one publisher would publish my book.
I had to self-publish.
And then when I brought it to Europe, they were ecstatic to publish it.
It's in French, it's in German, it's in Italian, Greek, Japanese, Russian,
Romanian, and so forth.
So my point to is very simple.
The U.S. is as corrupt as the Swiss and they're in bed together.
That's a big, big problem.
But the law stands.
You cannot deny someone the right under law where you must pay me 15 to 30 percent.
The IRS is one division.
The other division is the IRS whistleblowing office.
I essentially made their program overnight, but by the DOJ hating whistleblowers,
attacking whistleblowers, hostility towards whistleblowers, that's why they
attacked me to put me in jail.
The old law said if you're indicted, you don't get paid.
Unfortunately, the new law for the DOJ gives me the right to receive this award.
Why do I know this?
Because I hired the gentleman who wrote the law in the United States Senate, Mr.
Dean Zerbe, who's my attorney and still is my attorney today.
He literally wrote the law.
So the DOJ, all they wanted to do was try and take the credit for this
investigation, which they cannot.
They screwed up the case, which they did royally.
And I ultimately got paid, which made them look even more foolish.
This is so important for the people to understand.
This is the political chess match in the United States.
Why did nobody else go to jail in the whole financial crisis?
Not one banker went to jail.
Mr. Madoff was not a banker.
He was an investment professional.
He went to jail, but all the UBS executives, not one of them went to jail
because they wanted me to be the bad guy.
I was the one who exposed the largest and longest running tax scandal
in the world, period.
So if you, if you think now what they have collected is around
$35 billion and counting.
Why?
120 Swiss banks were fined in Switzerland as a result of me.
The oldest bank in Switzerland, Veglund, went bankrupt because they
couldn't pay the fine of $75 billion.
Max didn't call.
And so what has happened here is this is extended to such an extent
where people don't understand that the, the ability for people to come forward
and whistle blow has far reaching effects.
So as I said, 120 Swiss banks were fined.
The oldest bank in Switzerland went bankrupt, Veglund, and tax
treaties were changed.
Three amnesty programs were put in place because you can't possibly
indict every UBS client.
Which was 19,000 clients with $20 billion of bankable assets.
And when I say bankable assets, that means literally within the bank,
stocks, bonds, cash, and so forth.
But a lot of these people also own private jets, yachts, had safe deposit
boxes, artwork, jewelry, and so on and so forth.
So when you begin to realize how important this is for my whistle blowing,
it has reached into so many different aspects of banking.
With accounting, trust departments, and legal departments,
compliance, and so forth.
They've been doing it for far too long, violating securities and tax laws for
years, not just of the U.S., of many other countries around the world,
including Britain.
So what we must say here is first of all, the U.S.
is corrupt because they didn't find UBS properly.
The Barack Obama and his administration were corrupt because they were taking
money for his campaign.
From bundled campaign contributions from the chairman of UBS, Robert Wolf,
and so on and so forth.
And Hillary Clinton only got 4,700 names out of 19,000.
Now, why wouldn't she get all 19,000 names?
She had every reason to do that, but she didn't because a lot of those other
people were donors to her campaign and to her husband's.
And I know this for a fact because I had a few that were.
So this is the U.S.
problem we have is that the conflicts and the problems of the parents of
impropriety are very run very deep in this case.
And this is why they tried to attack me rather than admit their faults of for
the last 50 years.
Why did they uncover the largest tax scandal in history?
Why didn't they find them properly?
Why didn't they get all 19,000 names?
Why didn't other people go to prison rather than just the whistleblower?
That's the facts.
And when you read my book, if you have the time and look at my website, you'll
see it, it's all laid out in black and white.
It's irrefutable.
Further, two times when I was in London, when I enjoy going to London, I live in
Malta now, I visited Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy.
Why?
Because Julian, like myself, is a whistleblower in a different way.
And he had a lot of information that was vital to my case.
One document in particular is on my website, and you can see it under DOJ
corruption, CIA secret cable.
It's a one page memo that no one was supposed to see.
It's labeled top secret from the U.S.
embassy in Bern to Washington.
Essentially, what the U.S.
and the Swiss agreed to was to close down the U.S.
embassy in Washington.
What the Swiss agreed to was to close down a company operating in Tehran out of
Geneva called Kalanikos, as well as taking three Chinese Uighurs from Guantanamo Bay
and placing them in Switzerland to settle the UBS case.
And then three times it's stated in this secret CIA cable, a political
solution to the UBS case.
And you can see that the U.S.
government is making the necessary preparations to get it settled.
And this is what the U.S.
government did behind the scenes to screw 300 million Americans.
They didn't find the bank properly, which means all these Americans have been
cheated as a result of the Obama administration.
Whether you like President Obama or not is not the question here.
What I'm identifying here is that a clear, 100 percent crystal clear case
present at the time.
So I think this is very important for your audience to understand and to delve
into, and this is the problem that we have now between the Swiss and the U.S.
is the conflicts as well as the corruption and collusion that exists.
Brad, Stephen, you're muted just to let you know.
Brad, I used to be...
Yes.
Wait a minute.
So let me just start.
So I just wanted to ask you a little bit more, Bradley.
So the...
So I saw the press conference where it was announced that the IRS had awarded you
on the day that it was announced, I think.
And it said, so at that time, it said that you were awarded the equivalent of 2%
of 5 billion, which had been recovered then.
But now that figure of 5 billion is now 35 billion, is that right?
So that's...
The numbers are staggering.
What I got paid on was the fine of UBS.
So UBS got fined 780 million, as I said before.
200 million went to the SEC, Securities and Exchange Commission.
So they were left with 580.
Out of that 580, they carved off 180.
So there was 400 million left.
Out of that, I got 26% on the 400, which comes up with the 104.
Yes, exactly.
That's how they paid you.
But I think one of your lawyers characterized it as...
It was equivalent, not this...
This wasn't how it was worked out.
It was equivalent to 2% of the 5 billion which had been recovered then.
So the lawyer was trying to make the point that it was good value for the US government.
Well, this is exactly right.
What he said was it's pennies on the dollar, what they paid me,
to receive back the largest and longest running tax and security scandal in the world.
Nothing comes close.
This was one bank that we started with, of course, and I gave them the other banks.
This was UBS.
120 banks had been fined by the US government as a result of me.
Nobody else.
And they have now brought back hundreds of thousands of clients and billions of dollars.
Now, the number is around 35 billion, I believe, maybe even close to 40.
And think about what that money does.
That money comes back from a Swiss bank or maybe Isle of Man or Hong Kong or Singapore,
wherever the money is, a lot of it in Switzerland, of course,
and it comes back into a US banking institution.
They paid the 30% fine around that amount.
The money gets put into a US institution.
It gets invested and taxed through perpetuity.
So quite frankly, it's over 100 billion.
I mean, the numbers are staggering because I've essentially brought all of this money back
from all over the world, which the IRS admits without mentioning my name, of course.
And on my website, you'll see a press release in 2016.
A week after I launched my book, they mentioned over 100,000 Americans became tax compliant.
Well, we had only 19,000 at UBS.
So where the other 81,000 come from?
And that was eight years ago.
So you can see this is a snowball effect.
And what has happened is hopefully in other countries, as I've helped the French,
I've testified in the French trial, which was very rewarding, not monetarily,
just gratifying because what I was essentially doing was showing the French.
They were doing the same thing in France as they were doing in America, as they did in Italy,
as they do in Spain, as they do in Japan, in South Africa, and so on and so forth.
But really, the problem here is everyone will say, well, isn't it nice to pay low taxes
and so forth? Yes, of course it is.
But we have an infrastructure depending upon the country we're from, whether, OK,
if it's Liechtenstein, of course not.
But if it's the UK or if it's France or Germany, there's an infrastructure for education,
for roads, for bridges, for police, for military and so on and so forth.
So we pay taxes and we get some of that in return.
Now, I'm not going to get into the philosophical argument about where the money goes,
but in essence, taxes are used to pay these types of things.
So the problem here is now, once you bring back these tax cheats and bring the money back
into the system, what we need to target is, well, what about all the other nefarious
acts? What about the insider traders?
What about the arms smugglers or the terrorist financers and drug dealers and so
on and so forth? Yeah, this is this is and the dictators who rape and pillage their
countries and put the money in Switzerland.
Why? Why doesn't the world boycott Switzerland until they release all this money?
That's what should be done.
They don't want to be part of the EU.
Good for them. They don't want to be part of the euro.
Good for them. Now you have to come clean.
We want to see all of it.
And we get forensic accountants to come into the country and do this.
You know why they won't do it?
Because they know that they're still dirty and they have been doing it for years,
after years, after years.
Let's take a step back.
Why was Swiss bank secrecy put in place in 1934?
It's very clear.
There's a PowerPoint presentation on my website.
Adolf Hitler came to power under the Third Reich in 1933.
He had said if any German moves a fennec out of the country, they will be shot.
Why? That was to build up for the war effort.
They needed the money to stay in Germany.
Switzerland counted it in 1934, the next year, and said, if you put any money in a bank
account, we will not disclose the identity.
We will not disclose the identity.
Some like some like attorney client privilege, medical privilege, clergy
privilege. Those all make sense in general.
The problem is the Swiss abused the privilege as World War Two ended.
It was obvious that the Swiss were playing both sides of the fence.
They were dealing with the Westerners, of course.
And then they were also dealing with the Nazis.
Why do all the pharmaceutical and commodities firms in the world, the largest in the
world, are in Switzerland?
Can anyone explain that?
I can because they were gouging the Third Reich and making huge profits.
Nestle, Novartis, Roche.
Why are these the biggest pharmaceutical and food companies in the world?
For little Switzerland?
That's a whole nother subject.
So now we go into the 50s and 60s after World War Two.
Globalization, trade is booming and so forth.
Then what had happened was Switzerland just opened the floodgates to accept all this
money because they claim to be neutral.
Now, at first, it makes sense to say you're neutral.
But if you're not really neutral, you can't say it and be it because they're playing
both sides of the fence.
So what essentially happened here is Switzerland became the political and economic
stability of the world.
And that's where people wanted to put their money.
They didn't want to put their money in some Third World Road bank or what have you,
because they didn't think the money would be there tomorrow.
But Switzerland kept that image of safe and secure.
So this is where Swiss bank secrecy came from, from the Third Reich and Adolf Hitler.
And I think it's important to understand why this has now been uprooted due to me,
where the Swiss parliament was forced to break bank secrecy and hand over 4,700
accounts to the U.S.
government. They should have handed all 19,000, but they only handled 4,700.
This is very, very important.
It is historically significant, and I think it sends a message.
And now other countries have been coming forward to come after Switzerland to get
their rightly due payments from people who've been cheating their governments on
taxes. Unfortunately, the governments don't know how to negotiate with the Swiss.
And I've been telling governments around the world to contact me because I would
help them negotiate, you know exactly how they can calculate what is owed them.
Just like when they paid the Holocaust victims back in 1998.
I was at Credit Suisse in Geneva.
It was a joke. I think it was about 1.3 billion.
This was not even near what the Swiss had in their accounts and ripped off the
poor victims of the Holocaust and their family members.
This was a tragedy and a travesty at the same time.
And the U.S. government, once again, just settled for peanuts when they really
should have gone in there and demanded much more.
So you can see the combination between the two countries is complicit.
I said it candidly and I can back it up, not just in my case, but with other
situations. I'll give you one other scenario, which is on my website.
When I was at UBS, I was reading an article in the New York Times.
In which UBS was fined one hundred million dollars for moving foreign
exchange transactions to Libya, Cuba and Iran.
Millions of dollars. Nobody went to jail.
Nobody lost their job.
Why was this happening?
Well, UBS thought they could get away with it.
The fact that they were fined one hundred million makes no sense because that's
some prosecutor just trying to make a nice cozy number of one hundred million.
And when UBS was making these million dollar transfers to Cuba, Libya and Iran
in 2004 and before.
The Swiss National Bank had to know what they were doing, just like the Federal
Reserve would know what an American bank is doing.
So the Swiss government knew exactly what UBS was doing and condoned it.
But here's the real problem.
Who represents the United States interests in Cuba, Libya and Iran in 2004?
The Swiss do.
So if you indict UBS, you're indicting the Swiss government, which will never happen.
That's why the system's corrupt.
That's why they got caught red handed.
And that's why I'm telling you that they cannot be trusted, both the US and the
Swiss. That's a fact.
So, Brad, maybe you need a little bit of a rest, do you?
I've got another question here.
So, did you ever get an apology from the Department of Justice for screwing up
your case royally so that got the ridiculous situation where you could say
that they paid out as a limited hangout, but in fact, they did actually reward a
whistleblower and that encouraged other whistleblowers in the future to do
that. So that was a pretty dangerous strategy for them.
Did you ever get an apology from the DOJ for not understanding the importance of
not punishing participants as opposed to kingpins?
No, you'll never get that.
I mean, look, these are civil servant bureaucrats and you'll never get that.
No, I never did get it and I'll never will get it.
They're furious, number one.
One, they thought they could take the credit.
And see, this is where it all came out in the wash, as we say.
One, it was due to me, of course.
I was the one who had the courage to come forward.
I quit my job. I gave up my career and I did it not knowing there was a law in
place because there wasn't a law in place.
So what I essentially did was I transformed a trillion dollar industry.
One man, name one person in America who brought back thirty five billion dollars.
I can't name one except me.
So when you look at what I've done and I'm trying to educate and inform others
where I might motivate them to come forward in a particular case, not where a
boyfriend, girlfriend said, oh, you didn't pay your three thousand pounds on your
taxes. I'm not talking about things like that.
I'm talking about massive corporate crime where we can uncover this, not only
uncover it, but then bring the funds back into the system, eradicate the crime and
the portion of that crime proceeds goes to the whistleblower.
It saves time and money for law enforcement.
You get right to the chase.
It sends a great message.
If you're going to break the law, you're going to be held accountable.
And that's where whistleblowing is essential in public policy.
Yeah. So do you think you were successful?
So you didn't probably blow the whistle with that intention, but the result was
that you did encourage whistleblowers in the future.
And you also created fear in the banks because people who are doing wrong are
very happy to do wrong if they're never going to get caught, which was the system
they thought they had in Switzerland only to find that four thousand seven hundred
out of nineteen thousand names were provided to the US government by the Swiss
bank, which had always promised that it would never.
And it's still going.
And it's actually picked up credit suites.
And I don't know where credit suites ranks in all the banks, but I imagine it's a
pretty important one. And the Swiss government was pretty upset about that.
But UBS, having paid a fine in for what you disclosed, years later, pick up credit
suites. And I don't know whether you've got any comments about that.
And then go back to Charles and the questions.
Well, I do. And I think it's a good point.
And I I worked at Credit Suisse and I told the DOJ exactly what to do.
But they told me, no, you watch too much TV.
That's Hollywood. I said, you don't understand.
I worked there. I worked at Credit Suisse.
I worked at Barclays Bank. I worked at UBS.
I worked in Switzerland for 15 years.
I knew the bankers. I knew the lawyers.
I knew the trust departments.
It's a small village. If you've ever been to Geneva or anyone on this call has been
to Geneva. Now, look, I'm not here to try and destroy Switzerland.
But if you don't like whistleblowing, stop breaking the law.
It's that simple. You don't like whistleblowers.
Don't break the law.
And the American system has come forward.
They've done something right for a change and something that we could we could model
in other countries. And I don't know why the UK and France and so forth.
And all these excuses about the Vichy government, World War Two and all this
bullshit, I'm sorry to say, is wrong.
We need strong whistleblowing because law enforcement cannot do the job.
Whistleblowers are an extension of law enforcement.
They should be embraced.
And that's how we get to the core of the problem.
Whistleblowers will help solve the problem.
So I really believe that more and more conversation.
I'm delighted to come and speak to any parliamentarian, anyone in any government
in Europe or Asia, for that matter, who wants to discuss this openly and candidly
and professionally, because this is the future, because if people are going to keep
breaking the law, as I said before, drug dealers, arms smugglers, human trafficking,
dictators, insider trading, so on and so forth.
Pick your poison. We must get to the core of the problem because they're sophisticated.
They're well financed and we must do something to attack it.
Yes. Well, I might be able to get you to speak to the British
parliament if you're interested in that.
So I'll try.
I am 100 percent.
OK. All right.
Well done. Thank you.
Well done, Stephen. Good series of questions, Brad.
Sorry, by the way, can I just apologize to Bradley?
I know that the questions weren't.
I'm just a doctor, Bradley, so I hope you'll understand.
I don't know about the financial system.
I just know how much I dislike my own bank, HSBC.
Well, it's it's it goes with the territory.
I think everyone can concur with what you said there.
But as a doctor, certainly you have beliefs and you have your education
and you know there's probably a lot of whistleblowing that should be taking place
in some of the hospitals. Absolutely.
And that's why not least Bradley in the last four years
and not just in the UK, all over the world.
The whole thing was a fraud.
There was no pandemic.
In my view, as a medical doctor, in my medical opinion, there was no covid-19.
So it was an absolute outrage what happened in the last four years anyway.
All right. All right.
Now, Brad, I'm very conflicted here because, as I said, I was a tax lawyer for 20 years.
And in fact, Kerry Packer famously said the Australian multibillionaire,
you know, I don't want to give the government one cent more than it's properly entitled to,
because all that giving money to the government does is to get them to spend it.
I spend my money better than government.
However, that's where the conflict comes, because I agree.
We need more whistleblowers and, you know, we'll go through it.
We'll go to the questions.
But the interesting question is, what should the legal structure be
in terms of the whistleblowers and the Julian Assange case and Bradley Manning case?
All of them are very relevant to, oh, they broke a state secret.
Well, it's very convenient to call something a state secret
if the government doesn't want anyone's prying eyes onto it.
So I commend you for for the steps that you took and the courage.
You know, I think that's that's the point.
Stephen was courageous.
Many people on this call are courageous to speak up what's true.
So well done to you.
What's your website just to help me people find it?
It's lucifersbanker.com.
Here is my book.
Lucifer's Banker Uncensored is the book.
But the website is lucifersbanker.com.
Beautiful. And can you just explain why you called it Lucifer's Banker?
Because I haven't read your book and I look forward to doing so.
Certainly. My ghostwriter, I had a ghostwriter.
He came up with the name said, you're the banker.
And actually, the bank is the devil.
So he came up with Lucifer's Banker.
And one book I read from down under a very interesting book.
I'm sure you're quite familiar with it was Nugan Hand.
Yep. And that's a scandal with all the military folks,
with the money in Singapore and Hong Kong and the kickbacks and so on and so forth.
But your audience certainly should read Nugan Hand.
That was a fabulous read.
Certainly my book, I hope people can read it because I want to motivate
other people to come forward as whistleblowers.
We need to unite to fight because the corporations are so big.
They have lobbyists. They have so much money.
We need to come together to fight this big problem.
And and we say that there might be some experts on this call,
Brad, who can make the distinction between Lucifer and Satan.
Because the New World Order book that I've talked about often,
something that someone brought to our attention, I've read and thoroughly enjoyed this
this difference between Satanism and Luciferianism.
That might be a nice thing to unpack in due course.
But let's go to questions, Brad.
Anders, look, a lot of hands up here.
So it's wonderful. Anders first.
Yes, hello, Brent.
Very nice to hear that story.
I would like to do a very quick four or five point story.
I came across a video this week presented by Mike Eden
showing that E.G. Farben for General Electric Standard Oil
was fully behind Nazi Germany in 1933,
connected to Switzerland, and everything is documented.
That's the base point.
Second, the main fraudster
of bank in Switzerland is in Basel,
which is kind of owned by Bank of England Federal Reserve, the BIS.
It is talking about tens of trillions of dollars, which is on hidden accounts.
We don't know who the owners are, and we can only assume.
Second, there is a video recently
where the Yukos former owner, Mikhail Khodorkovsky,
who moved to Switzerland and now lives in London.
He had 300 companies in Switzerland,
Gibraltar, Cyprus, and he revealed that the real owner
of Yukos was Rothschild.
Third, UBS, well, they are now owning Credit Suisse.
They bought them for 3.2 billion dollars.
And they were backed by FED to finance the takeover by 50 billion dollars.
So this is a network where UBS and CIA,
Deep State, Fed, Bank of International Settlement,
all are interconnected.
So this is the real story at the top. Any comment to that?
Well, I think you're right.
Number one, the Credit Suisse merger was a joke.
There's no way you can possibly have a merger over a weekend
and analyze the value of a multinational, multi-country bank.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is the bank was dirty to begin with,
and they buried that dirt by merging it with UBS at a sweetheart deal.
Screwing the investors such as the Saudi Arabian government,
the Singaporean government and the Qatari government,
which lawsuits are pending on those cases.
Coming back to BIS, this is a fixed system in which there's not much transparency,
like the Federal Reserve in America, in which certain people can dictate
certain ways in which money flows take place,
gold reserves get moved around and so on and so forth.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm a realist.
So what I know for a fact is there's too much
shenanigans going on in Switzerland that haven't been exposed.
The UBS case is the perfect example, the very fact that you wouldn't demand
all 19,000 accounts to understand what's going on here.
So what about the dictators that have accounts in Switzerland?
What about the politically exposed people?
Why don't we see their names?
And this is the problem.
So the American government is is colluding and is criminally
complicit with the Swiss.
And some of the points I made earlier, but your points are very well taken.
You're correct.
Thank you. Thank you, Anders.
Peter Underwood, our favorite South African, who reckons South Africa
is better than living in the UK, Brad.
Hello, Brad. Lovely to meet you.
And thank you so much for a wonderful presentation.
A long story short, I was in UK in 2013 when a client in Cyprus,
I put this in the chat,
I had 750,000 euros stolen from him on the 1st of April 2013.
And he had to close his business down.
And that was the like a bank robbery, I call it.
And he asked me to tell him what the hell had happened.
So I wrote a thesis about it.
I should mention I work with Dr.
Jerry Brady, who has a much deeper understanding than I did at the time.
I qualified as a company secretary in 1967,
worked in the city of London for 10 years in the 70s
and understood the banks took deposits and lent them out.
That's what I was taught in economics at Bristol University.
And Jerry told me 99% of economists believe that.
He put me right.
So my first draft, thankfully to him, I had to correct.
And I wanted to ask you,
Jerry and I have a bit of difference because I believe
that the world is run and controlled by the banksters.
He chooses to differ and we haven't really solved that problem.
So we've agreed to differentiate.
I'd like to also supplement your wonderful book,
which I shall get a copy of by a book that I'm reading at the moment,
which is called The Killing of Uncle Sam.
There's a hell of a lot of stuff in there about goodness knows what,
CIA corruption, you name it.
I am actually getting sections of that.
I published two letters a week on Substack.
I republished Jerry's weekly letter of finance and economics on Tuesdays.
And I post my own letters on Saturdays.
I wanted to ask you, who the hell do you think is running the bloody world?
Well, looking at Joe Biden,
certainly he's not the president running the country and in my country.
And it's quite an embarrassment.
So that that gives you a little taste, a sample of how you could be told
there is someone in charge, but they're really not in charge.
That's just an example.
OK, let's think about the financial institutions in the world.
Every single time they get caught red handed breaking the law, they get fined.
But the fine is less than the crime that they committed.
So if I said to you, let's go rob a bank in South Africa,
steal 100 million Rand, get caught and give back 50 and we keep 25 each.
We would do that business all day long.
But that's what the banks are doing.
So why is it the banks get a free pass on the largest levels?
JP Morgan once said, if I owe the bank a hundred dollars, it's my problem.
If I owe them a hundred million, it's their problem.
Yeah. So that being said,
why is it HSBC, UBS, Credit Suisse, JP Morgan,
Citibank, Barclays and so on and so forth?
All these banks get away with breaking the law
because they have the clients, just regular clients.
They have the corporate clients.
They have the politically exposed people.
They have the dictators.
They're running money through their banks on credit cards, on interest rate swaps,
on security exchanges, on bond trades.
Too much power in too many people in too few people is a bad thing.
These banks, I hate to say it, but this is what has to be done.
You've you've abused the privilege.
Break up these big banks. HSBC is one of them.
They've been breaking the law for years.
The drug cartel, they were laundering money for the Mexican drug cartel.
What did Loretta Lynch, the attorney general at the time under Obama do?
Nothing. Just fine them.
Nobody went to jail.
So what you've done is you set a bad precedent and no deterrent.
So this is the problem with the banks around the world.
They must be held accountable.
You put the CEO in jail.
Trust me, this shit will stop.
Nobody has the political testicular fortitude to do it.
And I think that's the problem.
Put CEOs in jail.
You get put this to an end.
And these banks have too much power.
And I agree with you. That's it.
Yeah. And what I just wanted to say that working in the city of London,
I realized that the British Empire didn't actually disappear.
It transformed itself into a financial empire.
We have 14 tax havens around the world. Correct.
And most of them are controlled through the city of London,
which I don't know whether people realize the city of London,
the one square mile is actually a state within a state like the Vatican.
It's a real problem in which the British Empire started this offshore business.
Bermuda, Hong Kong, Isle of Man, Jersey, Caymans and so on and so forth.
So we really must go back and fix this.
It's time to fix this problem because it's taken advantage of the entire world.
And the poor taxpayers who are paying for this are getting cheated.
Absolutely. Thank you so much, Brad.
It's a great pleasure to meet you.
I will read your book.
Thank you so much. It's a pleasure. Thank you.
Well done. Well done, Peter.
It reminds me of the story, Brad, of, you know, how do you know a politician is lying?
You know, his lips are moving.
But I used to say that about lawyers as well.
And then they said, what's the definition of an honest politician?
An honest politician is one who once bought stays bought.
So, you know, it's it's a it's a serious problem
because the politicians that get the highest levels are those who have been bought.
Because then they're controllable.
So you are shining an excellent light on that, Brad.
OK, we have Glenn then.
And Steve, I've noted you, you'll be in the list after Jerome Corsi.
But Glenn is next because hands go up and down in order.
And sometimes we lose them. So, Glenn, go.
Hi. Thank you so much.
I I'm curious about some of the mechanics.
So I'm assuming you were dealing with courts both in Switzerland and in the US.
And so it was just in the US predominantly,
because what I had done was effectively quit my job
and then went to the United States with the documents that I had.
OK. And which court were you dealing with in the US?
Oh, it was it was they cherry picked at the forum shop,
the judge down in Fort Lauderdale,
which had nothing to do with my case whatsoever.
My client, which I was charged against, lived in California.
So I don't know why I wasn't charged in California.
I don't know why I wasn't charged in the same courtroom as him.
But that's the way the DOJ works in Fort Lauderdale.
But and this was a federal district court.
Yeah, it was federal. Yeah, of course.
Yeah. OK. And from a timing viewpoint,
the period you said was from 2000 that the actual actions were going on 2000, 2007.
When did you first file a court case?
And and when did the Treasury actually do the awards?
I came into the US government in 2000 and
first initially in 2006, I was getting things lined up
and I came and met with the DOJ in June of 07.
And then they wouldn't give me immunity or a subpoena.
And I said, if I don't have a subpoena, I can't give you information
because I will go to jail in Switzerland where I live.
And I said, we're not giving it to you.
So I'm not giving you the names.
So I went to the Senate.
The US Senate gave me a double subpoena in 2007.
I gave them a 10 hour deposition,
which they still refused to give me my own deposition.
They won't give it to me.
My own deposition shows you further corruption of the US government.
Second, I went to the Securities and Exchange Commission, met with them.
I met with the Internal Revenue Service, met with them.
But it was the DOJ that was so furious because they couldn't control
the narrative of this investigation because I talked to so many agencies.
And at that point, what had happened was then in 2008,
when I came back to America, my boss got detained in Miami
and I knew I was going to be arrested.
So I came to Boston, got arrested.
And I said, I'm the whistleblower.
Well, what do you want to do?
And they started yelling at me.
I said, don't yell at me.
You screwed this thing up royally and you think you're going to take the credit.
You can't because I was the one who put your nose into it
and told you how to do it.
And you still screwed it up.
So the US Senate had hearings.
There's reports on my website.
You can see the government, US Senate government books.
They're about 400 pages.
Then that was in 2008 and in 2009.
And then UBS got fined in 2009, seven hundred eighty million dollars,
which was a joke.
As I said, the Obama administration was conflicted from top to bottom.
But they had to do something because they went to so many agencies,
the IRS, the SEC, the US Senate and the DOJ,
and they were all fighting to see who could get the credit.
And so, again, when was the award both announced and then when was it released?
That all the challenges to not giving it to you were completed
and they basically cut you a check.
They had the money in 2009.
They didn't give it to me in 2012 because, sorry, that's my grandfather clock.
The award was granted to me.
I'm sorry.
In 2012 when I got out of prison.
So when I got out of prison, they didn't want to give me the check in prison.
So they gave it to me literally three weeks after and which was about 12 years ago this month.
And what happened was it was the hundred four million from the fine of the bank.
But it showed that they had that money back in 2009.
So why didn't you pay me back in 2010?
Because they didn't want to give me the check.
They didn't want to give me the check in 2010 because they didn't want to look even more foolish to pay a person who was entitled under law the money who was incarcerated, the only one incarcerated in this whole case.
Yeah, that's wonderful.
All right. Thank you.
Thanks. You're welcome.
Thanks, Glenn.
Okay, Dave, now we've got our local resident favorite professor.
One of the few, Dave, who's willing to show his face.
Well done.
Yeah.
I'm old enough that if they fire me, I'm okay.
I always try to do a lightning round.
So just jump in when you're inspired.
By coincidence, I downloaded your book two weeks ago.
No idea.
The zoom was coming.
So that's kind of entertaining.
I see Steve Kirsch out there.
Hope your health is doing better.
You are pretty far gone, as I recall.
And Steve, you want to go home.
Okay.
Dave, then Janet, Jerome, then you, Steve, and we'll work out why you can't put your hand up a bit later.
Dave. Yep.
Okay.
If you wanted to have an effect, all you'd have to do is say, look, if you're a C-sweeter, we're going to claw back the last five years of your compensation.
If you need a bailout, and that would basically make the C-sweeter think twice about thinking a bailout is good news.
Otherwise, but they're never going to pass that law because they don't like it.
I have this sense that the term whistleblower is intentionally toxic.
So Carmen Sagara got pretty wiped out.
But I suspect that if you are a whistleblower, the last thing you want to do is call the whistleblower almost in any setting, because it's like it's the same bullseye no matter what.
So I think they want whistleblower to be sort of in the same category as conspiracy theorists.
They want they want it to be a bad person.
That ring a bell.
I don't know.
And then my understanding of the of the fines are not only small, they're less than they made, as you said.
But but I've been told that after the fine has been levied, they say donate this much to this political organization and will reduce it down to nothing.
And then it's tax deductible. Is that correct?
Well, what happens is when UBS got fined, they write it off on their taxes.
So the Swiss taxpayer eats that the legal bill on my case was around fifty five million dollars.
So the UBS shareholder eats that.
So two groups, UBS shareholders, Swiss taxpayers who had nothing to do with this illegal conduct, pay the price and the executives walk away with the golden parachutes.
This is the other problem with this.
If you want to change the system, that's the system you change on the corporate side.
And the third thing is that's very important here is the very fact that these people, once they get fined, they continue doing the illegal business.
If you go on my website, you see the top 10 funds of UBS, just the top 10, which is seven point one billion dollars.
Why are they still in business today?
Why do they still have a charter to do business?
Because the banks are in bed with the politicians who are helping them fund some of their campaigns.
As I said to you, I prove beyond any doubt that Hillary Clinton was dealing with donors to her husband's campaign.
The Swiss government gave five hundred thousand dollars to the Clinton Foundation three months after the settlement.
Why? So this is my shock face that you're saying the Clintons are corrupt.
Well, I'm just I'm just identifying. We all know they're corrupt. It's just for fuel for the fire.
Yeah. A little known fact turns out UBS is in the middle of a chain that connects Dominion, the voting machine company to Beijing.
There's a string of shell companies that basically connects a Beijing owned company to the voting machines in case you're wondering how that was pulled off.
Another nugget, BIS sent check money to Germany in 1939.
Think twice about it. There's a book that I think is good.
Tell me if you disagree or anyone tell me if you disagree.
Maybe Glenn would disagree.
All the devils are here by Bethany McLean and Jonas Sayre.
And they talk about the people who did try to convict the bankers and the incredible mess that they ran into as soon as they tried.
So they spend months building a case in an appeals court, which spent three hours and throw it out.
And so you're just never going to get them.
Last question.
That's why when you have a whistleblower, you can come in and identify all the dirty parties.
And that's what I did in my case. And it gets more extended with Raoul Weill, the head of the private bank, who was then extradited to Florida.
The defense and the DOJ prosecution never called me as a witness.
I was the one who gave his name and he was acquitted because all the other people who were testifying were my bosses who were given immunity and the jury threw it out.
But I was never called.
And so whistleblowers just a way to make the little guy think that there's a mechanism, basically.
And you got paid for it. I'm glad that happened.
Volcker supposedly took a team of forensic accountants, 500 of them to Switzerland to track Nazi wealth.
Was that legit? Do you know? Does anyone know if that was legit or if that was not legit?
He went. Yes, I recall when that took place. I remember reading about it and talking about it in Switzerland.
Remember, the Swiss are never going to show everything. They're always going to hide something.
So it's a game. So the best way to do it is say, fine, we're going to revoke your charter, get out of our country.
But they're not going to do it. No one has to.
They what's the name of that book, please? So the people can tell the name of the book is is it's actually a very good book.
It's called All the Devils are Here.
And it really does talk about the challenges of just getting one conviction.
Then you get guys like, you know, Corzine, who all you had to do is get the number two in command to give her immunity.
And they could have hung Corzine and they never offered her immunity because they don't want Corzine. Right.
They they. So I must admit, I'm a little despondent over any hopes of rounding these guys up.
It feels like authoritarianism to me.
So and that's the theme I've been harping on for about two years.
Thank you for letting me talk.
I'd just like to say the book, The Tower of Basil.
I've read it.
History of the BIS. That's worth reading. And Lords of Finance is the other one.
I've read it.
Peter, can you put those recommendations in the chat, please?
Thanks, Dave. Good job, Janet.
Then Jerome.
Ghandi.
Hi. Yes, I've just got two questions.
I missed the start of your talk.
So I'm wondering what were you actually charged with that caused you to end up in jail for 30 months?
And the second. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
That's the first question. The second question is in the UK, a hospital doctor, Chris Day, whistle blew on safety issues in the NHS about 10 years ago.
But despite having whistle blowing laws in the UK, the UK government allegedly spent at least seven hundred thousand pounds trying to shut him up.
So my question is, what's the use of having a whistle blowing law if the government can simply spend money to try and shut down the case?
Apparently, it is still going on approximately 10 years later.
The two very good questions.
The first the charge I received was a charge that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world except America.
It's called a conspiracy charge.
I mean, you you don't have to have any witnesses. You don't have to have any evidence.
I have to prove my innocence.
It was used to get the gangsters and the mobsters years ago.
Anyways, it was a one count conspiracy to commit tax fraud by opening a bank account for one of my clients who got fined fifty two million dollars and never went to jail,
who was breaking the law for years.
Igor Lenikov, a real tax cheat, as well as on the state taxes.
And we caught him there as well.
You'll read it in my book.
But it was a one count conspiracy charge, which doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.
And they do that because that's how the government makes you plead guilty.
I didn't do anything wrong. I came forward.
What I did in Switzerland was legal.
When I was going to America, that's when I said, this is I'm stopped doing this business.
I don't want to be a part of it.
I want to legal and compliance.
They never answered me.
Then I went and resigned.
And then I went to my own government.
And in my book, I explained it in great detail.
And so that's that's a very important thing.
So I think what people have to understand is then tell me your second question is having whistleblowing laws in America.
We have some of the same issues where it has to be enforced with greater vengeance, meaning people have to be protected and have to be compensated.
And it has happened and it's moving in that direction.
And I'm happy to come to the U.K. as I have many times and lecture there and to meet with folks there in the government to say, look, you have to change the system.
It has to have more teeth because if you do not give people the ability to come in under a whistleblowing policy or law, then they won't do it.
So you're just making it window dressing and making it look nice.
But it's it's like kissing your sister.
As we say, it doesn't work.
You must come with a strong law.
Make sure it's enforceable.
And if people are going to invade that law or break that law, they're going to go to jail.
Send it send an example and make sure it's strict.
That's the way to do it.
Thanks. Thank you.
Thank you, Janet.
Brad, before we go to Jerome, which nation do you consider currently has the best framework of legislation for whistleblowing?
Well, the U.S. has.
That's the one thing they do very well, because Senator Grassley from Iowa has put this in his in his bonnet for the last 30 years.
Literally, he has gone through amendments and changes and improvements.
And it's something to be modeled after.
There was just a national whistleblowing conference about five days ago in Washington, which I attend generally.
And what we're trying to do is reach out.
I've set up a private nonprofit foundation in Germany, which will be opened up most likely next year to help whistleblowers across Europe.
We want to change the laws in Brussels to protect the pay whistleblowers.
We want to make sure that people can come forward.
NGOs help them.
Lawyers help them and so forth.
And we need to eradicate waste, fraud and corruption in our society.
Don't like whistleblowing.
Don't break the law.
Beautiful.
Thank you, Jerome.
It's good to see you, Brad.
Bradley and I have worked together before on the many different things.
Most recently, the Marco Polo.
That's right.
And so we've had a history, and I'm familiar with your book.
I have the earlier version, which I think is out of C&P.
Sure.
And, okay, I want to make a couple points.
Hold on a second.
The, by the way, here's the Nugent Hand.
Here's the Nugent Hand book.
Yeah, that's it. Yep, that's it.
And then here's the book on HSBC laundering money, going back to the Opium Wars.
Okay, so the one of the main points I want to make is that
one of the primary functions of banking historically has been criminal activity
in line with the intelligence agencies.
And so therefore, everything you've encountered, everything I've encountered,
I caught HSBC doing massive money laundering.
2011 for the Mexican drug cartels.
You can't run a drug cartel without a bank
because you can't drive semi-trailer tracks of $100 bills to buy your tacos for lunch,
taking a $100 bill out of the back of the truck.
So banks serve to conduct criminal activity.
They mostly all do it.
It's a very lucrative business, and it's been going on from time immemorial.
I'd say in the 1800s when the drugs came on, especially the British Opium War,
which was the impetus for creating HSBC,
HSBC became the international leader in money laundering and remains so today.
And the Nazi banks in Switzerland, the banks in Switzerland all existed to serve the Nazi interests largely.
They confiscated insurance money.
They did all kinds of things with the Holocaust survivors.
They welcomed their money and then stole it.
Most recently, the Washington-based International Consortium of International Journalists,
which I'm sure you're familiar with, Le Monde, conducted an investigation at a very large website,
and they documented money laundering going all over the world.
Money laundering right now is rampant in Ukraine.
I think one of the reasons we continue to fight in Ukraine is to keep the money laundering open.
One of the reasons the Bidens are not indicted is because they've been designated CIA agents
designed to money launder through Ukraine in order to take massive amounts of money
and flow it into the international underworld activities.
We fund terrorism. We created ISIS.
So what you found was, Brad, you were rewarded for it, which is rare,
and to fight for it, went to prison for it, but they considered you a nuisance.
And so they did a workaround immediately, and the modus operandi was simply to handle what you did,
pay fines, slap wrists, create a new system to be harder to detect.
They're doing it today on a massive scale, larger than ever,
because they're also now funding pedophilia on a massive international basis,
and arms dealing to largely start World War III.
And so therefore, I commend what you did, and I've done it too.
By the way, I knew the principals involved, and I knew the people in the Nugent Hand Appair,
including the bankers of Miami who were involved in it, knew them personally.
They were all CIA, including the guy who was killed in Australia.
And so therefore, the dark side of what people don't realize is the amount of evil that is controlled by the banking system.
And its goal is to essentially have perpetual war, ultimately engineer people into a new world government.
And I'm just coming out with, I got my first copy Friday of the book on the anti-globalist manifesto,
War on Humanity, which I'm publishing as a war room book.
It'll be out the next few days and weeks.
And we're going after the international banking system very hard,
and the Freemasons and all the other groups that in the 1600s or earlier began forming these secret societies.
And the book I've written on JFK with David Mantek, forensic evidence shows that Jack Kennedy was shot twice from the front,
obvious from the x-rays, indisputable.
The government's lied for 60 years because the government killed Kennedy.
He wanted to go to peace, make peace with Cruz.
However, the government didn't.
So my main point, I'd like to have a comment, is why I think what you found was laudable, including with Marco Polo,
which is exposed by the way the Hunter Biden laptop and his money laundering drugs, other various nefarious activities.
Could you clarify Marco Polo?
Just give us a thumbnail.
Marco Polo.
This is Marco Polo.
It's a very big book that Brad helped publish in color, and it details all the activities coming out of the Hunter Biden notebook.
It's about a, oh, it's a massive, 640 pages, all beautifully printed in color, all documented, all...
The references, it's quite comprehensive.
It got very little attention.
I tried to get it more attention.
I had the Gateway Pundit doing it, but Brad had some objection to the Gateway Pundit people's ethics, so we didn't go very far.
Well, it was set out.
It's MarcoPoloUSA.org for anyone listening who wants to go see it.
And you can order the new book, which has a photo of Hunter Biden on the cover.
In essence, what it did was, as with some lawyers, it did not embellish anything.
It took 18 months for two lawyers and four analysts to put it from the laptop into hard paper form, which is undeniable.
Abby Lowell has tried to attack myself and others to no avail.
It's been sent out.
There's about 40,000 copies in circulation.
Every copy was sent to a member of Congress.
We've given it out at lectures across the country, in the U.S.
I've given it to reporters in Europe.
Anyways, it's off of what I did with UBS, but it's still whistleblowing because what it shows is the nefarious acts of the Biden family in Tanzania, Romania.
And I've been to these countries.
I've been there several times.
I know exactly what's going on.
All these bank accounts and this money laundering and tax evasion for someone who doesn't speak the language, who has no experience in energy, it's a fraud, period.
And that's exactly what you're saying, Jerry.
And I think what's happening here is people have to understand the CIA is the real bad bandit here.
And in my book, there's one particular CIA operative, which they never would investigate, who had $420 million at UBS.
So I rest my case.
Well, it's not only CIA.
It's MI6.
It's CricadeGB.
They all work together.
That's sitting on my desk unread.
I see you holding up.
I go, oh, that's not a stack of books.
Many unread.
But just click.
Sorry to intervene.
That's all right.
But I think Brad has done good work.
But I want to make the point that we're dealing with a systemic problem.
Yes.
Whistleblowing is largely, you know, in my case, HSBC got fine $1.9 billion.
No one went to jail.
Loretta Lynch handled the case.
It's a nuisance to them.
Certain people lose their careers because they were unfortunate enough to get caught.
Others may go to jail.
But mostly they get fined.
And then the activity shifts into a slightly different configuration.
It's massive offshore.
It's massive in countries like Cyprus and, of course, Vanuatu and the other money-longing countries.
Which make the nations exist to money-longer.
And so therefore, it's an endemic problem that I don't think until we root out the intelligence agency,
one world government mentality was essentially depopulationist and aiming to control the world's resources for themselves
and kill the rest of us for perpetual wars, which are meaningless, been architecting for years,
certainly since World War I, World War II, et cetera.
But I don't see an immediate solution.
It's a spiritual war.
And people are going to have to realize that this is not a few bad actors.
It's the inherent nature of banking to be criminal.
It's a criminal intelligence operation that creates intentional economic disruption, creates crises, recessions.
We're going into one now.
We'll have a global recession very quickly.
The world will be brought to its knees economically as the fiat monies collapse.
And the drug dealers and the pedophiles and the criminals are the ones who benefit.
And behind the scenes, that lust for money and power is basically satanic.
So that's what we're dealing with.
I just wanted to put that at the table.
Yep.
Beautifully.
Can I take one more question, as I'm going to grab some dinner, folks?
Thank you, Jerome.
Yes, we'll go to Steve.
Last question is Steve Kirsch.
And Steve, before you asked Brad the question, can you give us an update on your eye problem?
It's really sad to see that.
And secondly, just VSRF, your foundation, can you just remind us of the address?
Because I'm a subscriber.
I'm sure a number of people here are.
But maybe there are some who are not.
Yeah.
VSRF is vacsafety.org.
And my personal website is kirschsubstack.com.
Update on my eye problem for those listening.
So I was analyzing the Czech Republic data, essentially blowing the whistle on the Moderna vaccine.
And lines started getting wiggly.
And bubbles started appearing in one of my eyes.
And essentially, I had a huge retinal bleed that basically took out my entire right eye.
And so Bradley, I was under a lot of stress.
And I'm sure I'm kind of like you, but I focus on the vaccines.
By the way, I used to be on the HSBC technical advisory board.
We heard none of this stuff was going on, as you might imagine.
So I thought it was an honest bank when I served on the advisory board there.
But anyway, getting back to my eyes, I think the lesson here is that when you're doing something like Bradley did or what I'm doing,
you tend to be under a lot of stress.
And it's not something that people realize.
But I just would have horrible times sleeping at night because of what was going on and the injustice.
And I'm sure, Bradley, you've probably had exactly the same experiences.
And so the lesson here, I think you're maybe younger than I am.
I'm 67.
But the lesson here that could preserve your eyesight or stroke or whatever is take care of yourself.
Make sure you step back and take care of yourself because you're still probably under a lot of stress now.
And it's so frustrating.
So if you can learn from I paid the price with it in my vision, it probably will never come back, unfortunately.
But it probably stress had something to do with it.
So by the way, do you know my background at all, Bradley?
I don't know.
OK. Yeah. So I was a former high tech executive and I started seeing people close to me either being injured or dying from the covid vaccine.
So I started looking at the evidence and then I started pulling the looking at the actual data.
And what I discovered was that these covid vaccines are absolutely horrible.
They're killing people.
There is no benefit whatsoever for any of these vaccines.
They don't keep you out of the hospital.
They don't reduce your chance of being infected and they don't reduce your chance of dying.
And so I've been trying to I told my wife, hey, let me get this stuff out.
It'll be three weeks and all these vaccines will be stopped.
And of course, it's now three and a half years later and not much has changed.
But the evidence is still very damning.
So I think you're you're absolutely correct that they put the wrong guy in jail.
If anything, they should be putting the bankers in jail.
And until that happens, I think we're just going to see this happen over and over and over again.
And and the same thing is true.
You know, it's very analogous.
Like I'm in your like this parallel universe where I'm the you're the you're the the the dollars guy and I'm the vaccine medical guy.
And and you know, you see the same thing.
You see this tremendous corruption and it's very similar.
And and people think that they're doing the right thing.
But there are people at the top that know what's going on that allow this corruption to continue.
And everybody else thinks it's just an honest organization.
So it's very it's it's remarkable that the parallels here.
But my question to you and I think I know the answer to this because I can tell you the answer is no in the medical community.
Is there an honest government that, you know, there are 190 countries or so in the entire world?
Is there an honest government that is like calling you up saying, dang, you know, we want to really put the pressure on these people.
We want to see these people go to jail because I'm not seeing that at all in on the medical side, not a single even local authority.
Well, the problem is, is that all the industries are corrupt and certainly on the big scale for the big countries, for instance,
pharmaceutical, medicine, I.T., finance, construction, military, so on and so forth.
The list goes on. The UN has done a report 15 to 30 percent of every industry is corrupt.
So that's put that over on the side.
But one of the countries that I found very interesting was Norway.
Norway, actually, why? Because they pay high taxes and they're a wealthy country and they're a small country.
So that's probably not the norm. Let's be honest, of course.
But what you find is people are very happy to pay taxes because then they get free health care.
They get free education. People don't throw litter and graffiti and all this crazy stuff because the society is so small and manageable.
So to answer your question, is there an honest government? Few and far between.
I would concur with you. But there are a few examples out there that do exist which give us some hope.
The problem is the movement of these politicians is just a revolving door of bullshit.
All they do is they write a book, they come in and they say they're helping.
Then they sit there on some committee, they put their name out there, they're on the news.
And then all of a sudden they're out on the networks or on the speaker circuit or whatever.
Now, some of them could be good people. I'm not saying they're all bad.
But predominantly, why does government have better health care than all the American taxpayers?
Why? Why did they get a pension for life? Why? Because they make the laws.
So that shows you the system is corrupt from the core.
Iceland.
Iceland, I think, is probably one of the more honest governments.
Well, I have to close there, gentlemen. I have a dinner engagement.
I'm sorry I have to run too, but I really would like to come back on.
And to meet you folks, because I think this is very, very healthy, number one, to have this conversation.
And number two, we need to unite to fight in this role, whether it's with the vaccines, which I agree with you,
or if it's in finance or in construction or military or whatever.
We have to put an end to this nonsense because it's been going on for too long.
And the more we chip away at it, the more we will tell others who might follow our lead and motivate them.
Yes, thank you so much, Bradley, and you're very welcome to come back.
And by the way, Iceland has a population of about 300 to 400,000 people, as far as I can remember.
Well done. Thank you. Great job, Brad. Thank you for being with us. Do come back again.
Thank you.
Enjoy your dinner.
Thank you, gentlemen. Have a great day. We'll be in touch.
Thank you so much.
So, before we go to our favourite Norwegian now, Steve, Kirst, one question.
I got someone to send you information on Hyperbaric. I hope you got that. I hope you looked at it.
And if it's in you, I can get it resend to you. But Hyperbaric is going to be a big factor in a potential solution.
I know you made a comment on Hyperbaric, but you've got to speak to the right people about it.
So please note.
Yeah, if there's a history of that actually working, that would be interesting because we haven't seen, you know,
the problem with this thing is that it's a little bit obscure and you don't want to make it worse.
And so some people had like I looked into Hyperbaric and they said, well, there's a potential to make it worse.
Don't do it unless we have evidence because you don't want to, you know, just try something and then find out.
Heaps of evidence, Steve.
Heaps of evidence on a retinal subretinal sub RPE.
Well, I won't bog that. I'll put you in touch.
OK.
Just if you got that information, because again, it's like saying, well, you know, take the statins because, you know,
you've got cholesterol that we don't like.
So and so some indication, some person comes to you and there are some serious vested interests in not in making sure that Hyperbaric is not taken up big time because we're talking about oxygen.
You know, we're not talking about something that's that's a pharmaceutical drug.
Right. OK.
Well, I'll talk to you offline.
Yeah. Right.
And as now we're going to we're going to Norwegian expertise, Steve, on this question of whether you know,
and what do you think about Brad's comment on the Norwegian government who's screwing you, by the way?
It is not really accurate.
I am a Norwegian, so I can tell you that the Norwegian government is not what you think they are.
But, you know, Steve, I have something for you.
I I I feel a pity for your eyes and there's a lot of people down with your diagnosis.
I don't know the world. I know England.
I know you came and I cannot tell you.
Really, how the percent, but I can tell you what I believe.
And I think that while we talked in the past, not much, but a little bit, I will tell you this.
And you and some other people, you don't believe too much in the effect of, let's say, EMF radiation.
I didn't believe too.
Two years ago, I did not believe that EMF would damage you.
Not at all. I rejected the idea that this was the case.
Because I did not know and I couldn't understand how come some imaginary radiation could be bad for you.
Now I will tell you it is very likely that your eyes.
And other organs have been affected by a combination of.
Not only jobs, which you took, but food, which you eat, water, you drink, air, you breathe.
I can go into details, but in the UK, there is statistics.
It's a huge increase.
It's like.
Incredible increase in eyes disease.
The last three years.
Starting about July 2021, half a year after the Japs.
So there is a connection to the Japs for many diseases.
And I fully agree with you.
I mean, I have studied.
Three thousand hours into.
Statistics of causation correlation to.
Let's say, Japs, Japs definitely was a.
Factor of causation.
Which, you know, very well, New Zealand, I have my own study with New Zealand.
You know that.
Switzerland.
Have a much lower.
Austria.
OK, Norway.
OK, rural.
In California, there is a huge difference between rural and.
Metro Canada, the same.
OK, you live in Metro.
Of California.
Your eyes have exposure to two poisons.
What you took through Japs and.
Let's say food.
But a lot of radiation.
So if you look at statistics in UK, you will find similar.
Factors that it's a huge increase in eye diseases.
It's like.
Three hundred percent, four hundred percent, five hundred percent.
One thing in July, twenty, twenty one.
So you can say it is due to vaccination.
Yes, it is.
But there is a second factor, which is the four G five G.
I'm just saying it.
This is.
The fact.
You have used you have one good idea.
You see the poison from the vaccination and you have to say not to see the poison from the radiation.
I challenge you.
I have so much data.
I challenge you.
I have so much data.
I'm going to publish this scientifically with my partners in California.
And this is going to reveal these facts that this is not my imagination.
This is scientific material that the radiation, which correlates to the poison in the Japs, which is radio magnetic metals.
And these metals goes into the blood, into the veins, into the cells, into the brain.
And these materials, if you have a say, if you if you remember the past, you took this kind of things into the tooth.
You took this fillers into the teeth and these teeth, they got exposure to radiation, radio, everything.
But for the last 15, 20 years, the radiation has changed.
It is not only analog.
It's digital.
D.A.B. dub.
It's digital TV.
It is digital.
Four G and it's five G.
And all of these signals are giving you on all of us.
This type of poisoning radiation, it attacks the DNA.
It attacks the red blood cells.
It attacks the body because it is a poison.
The poison is the radiation and the poison is the toxicity.
And I'm telling you, it can be healed.
Because the toxicity is in the blood, is in the cells, in the body.
It is a lot of.
Chemicals, these chemicals needs to be pulled out.
The top, these chemicals are and I think you've done a fantastic job, Steve.
There's some excellent food for thought.
And, you know, I'm with Anders on this.
You are there's no one on planet Earth like you, Steve Kersh or Dave Colin or Glenn Macco or me.
You have a unique body with a unique set of 67 years of experience and giving a label on it.
And I think this whole you look at the Alliance for Natural Health, Rob Burkirk, the work he's doing on vibrational healing.
You know, in the barmachutical interests say, I know vibrational healing doesn't do anything.
Well, vibrations impact on us because we are just energy.
And so there's some people here, Steve.
Steve, we're all concerned about your eyesight because because we're all concerned about everybody's eyesight and Anders on eyesight problems are also most instructive for us to note.
Steven, Steve Charles and is is very good on 5G.
But unfortunately, he makes a mistake of forgetting the deliberate generation of fear.
And that plays into the stress that Steve Kersh feels that may have caused this.
I agree with you, Steve.
I think stress could easily have caused what you I don't know what you've got because a retinal vein thrombosis of you.
But maybe you don't want to discuss it on.
No, no, no, no. I mean, I had a subretinal hemorrhage and it's both under the retina and under the RPE.
So it was both and it's like 500 microns under under each one.
And so they basically said this was not operable because they could help to clear the blood underneath the retina using the the gas bubble and the you inject TPA underneath the retina.
But you can't get under the RPE.
And so the problem is clearing the blood under the RPE.
So they said, yeah, we could clear the blood under the retina.
No problem. But your problem is that it's not going to do any good because you've got all this blood under the RPE.
So I basically have this mother of all bleeds in my retina, both subretinal and sub RPE.
So for those of you who are interested in getting an opinion in a in a London teaching hospital, I hospital, Moffield's I hospital, I can I can help you with choosing someone to see.
But also St. Paul's I hospital in Liverpool, of all places, is excellent, even in the context of what has happened in the medical profession in the last four and a half years, which has been ignoring medical ethics as far as I'm concerned.
But I can help you in if you'd like to email me.
I'll try and help you as much as I know how distressing it must be.
Well, I don't know, but I can imagine.
But I do think that we all ought to be aware that in the context of a global coup d'etat in March 2020, then we need to be looking at more weapons than just the 5G.
Well, no, Andish does say the jabs and 5G, but more 5G.
And many people are just concentrating on the jobs.
I think that the deliberate generation of fear and stress, the stress that that caused and people like me who were just looking on, I'm absolutely shocked that there was a global coup d'etat in March 2020.
And it took me about six weeks to work that one out.
But I was absolutely shocked.
But somehow or other, I thought I was immune to fear and stress and that the psychological propaganda, psychological torture, which was being deliberately imposed on populations by their governments, I thought that I was immune from that.
But then eventually, when I didn't feel quite myself in March of 2022, which interestingly was just the month when the British government announced in, I think it was January 2022, they were going to take away all the restrictions in the United Kingdom.
All of a sudden, that was a big surprise because in December of 2021, they were gearing up to cancel British people's second Christmas.
Outrageous. And so I think that people who are not so many of my doctor friends too, but I think that we need to factor because we are human beings.
We are, you know, we do feel fear.
We may be better at coping with the fear than other people, but we still are human beings.
And this energy has to go somewhere.
And I think, unfortunately, the people have been made ill by what's happened.
So I think that huge numbers of people have got Stockholm syndrome and it's undiagnosed and it's really dangerous and they don't want to take responsibility for anything.
They just want to live a quiet life.
But all the laughter has disappeared as far as I can see.
And I don't think it's just me observing my perceptions.
I think people have changed a lot, but nobody can remember how things were prior to 2020.
And it's outrageous what has happened.
So I'm very sorry to hear about your eyes, Steve.
I can help you. I will help you in any way I can.
If you want to email me.
OK, well, we'll do. And somebody had mentioned that eye diseases went up by a huge increase in July of 2021.
Where would I find that data?
It's in the.
Well, you know, Steve, I can put you in touch with Sukrit Bhakdi, if you like, because I know for a fact that he was very interested.
He knew the medicine or the physiology, if you like, of what was likely to happen.
He predicted the clocks and.
Right. But I'm interested in the data, the actual data source.
The choice that and is and is mentioned it and and is has put a chart into the chat, Steve, with a file and is I can bring it up on the screen, actually.
And the source is shown there.
Just as UK, the search from UK yellow card system.
Yes, it is.
Yes, digital from the NHS.
So the sources, their diagnosis code, age 28, cataract and other disorders of limbs in diseases classified elsewhere.
Massive. OK, OK, I see.
OK, here we go.
By the way, Steve, the yellow card system in the UK, I think there's been deliberate fraud.
Wow, this is age 28.
Wow. Oh, man.
That is that is incredible.
Hmm. Yeah, I have never seen that chart before.
You need to get in touch with Andish, then he can explain every detail of his own imagine.
OK.
Good job.
Yes, awesome.
So that is an amazing number.
And that is that is incredible.
I have never seen anything go up like that.
And this is this is in a fully reported.
This is in NHS fully reported system.
This is not in yellow card.
Is that right?
Where are you, Andish?
When we want you.
And if you know where you get this, I can only comment that this is the only official data I have found on NHS and it is their own data.
And I've been trying to go deeper, but I have not been able to go deeper.
But this is confirmed by Mark Steele.
So this this is on this was from the NHS website.
If I go to the URL, it just says digital dot NHS dot UK.
That's probably I have I have the link from Mark Steele.
And this is connected to NHS and it is a report which is taken out of the data.
I was not able to recreate it myself.
But this is really is it from the national statistics?
And this is English statistics, 100 percent.
Is it the official data?
No, it's from NHS, not always not not one else.
Yes.
Wow.
I mean, that is that's a signal across the world.
So I assume you will find the same in Czech Republic, California, everywhere.
Yeah, but it's suppressed.
It's suppressed.
Wow.
And Steve, what Steve Vintros, what were you going to say about the yellow card system?
Because Jerry Brady says that the yellow card data also shows this eye data on reverse does.
But still, what is correct?
Well, I think that so the yellow card system, it was an obvious thing to plug the hole in, if you like.
So June Rains is a medical doctor and she runs.
She's the head of it and she is corrupt, unfortunately.
So and also I noticed when I was when I was handed the figures for MHRA, that's the Medicines and Healthcare Regulatory Agency, which runs the yellow card system and you'd revigilance, which is the EU version of it.
And there's United States.
So I produced figures in July 2021.
And I noticed that there was a discrepancy, you know, when you might expect that, you know, the figures around the world would average out to the same similar.
There was a discrepancy.
The UK figures were always lagging behind, especially Europe and America was in between.
But I'm not a statistician.
I did write an article about it in July 2021.
And that cost me my first group because I was betrayed by people in that group.
But I just formed another group.
But anyway, was there any explanation ever given for the this 15 times increase?
I mean, that that is causal.
There's no there's no doubt about it.
And like, how are they explaining that one?
Well, I haven't seen those.
But the thing is, I'm not a statistician anyway, but the NHS is a cult.
But the people who would produce those figures wouldn't be aware of their importance.
In my opinion, they would be, you know, only ranks if you like.
Yep.
Wow.
Stunning.
And Steve, Steve, these data are real.
That diagnosis code, that H-28 diagnosis code.
Yes.
So I will be happy to help you through that.
I can work on data.
Yeah.
So I know how to get the data.
And if you want to, I can help you.
OK.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, totally.
You have my contact info.
You're muted.
You're on mute.
I sent you my email details to you so you can contact me if you want to work on that.
OK.
So you sent it via email or how did you send it?
Into the chat.
OK.
So, and it was about 18 months ago for the first time, Steve.
And I must say that I was really impressed with it, but I'm not a statistician.
So I didn't really know what to make them kept it in.
It was another weapon they were using against us.
But so but he's done incredible research.
So comparing with urban, urban with rural London, California, was it New York City as well or New York State?
So I did Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, England, Ireland, and the United States.
I've done so many jurisdictions.
I have about 20.
So what I see, I see there is variation connected to the variation of technology, meaning that you have a lot of different technologies.
So I have a lot of different technologies.
So what I see, I see there is variation connected to the variation of technology, meaning that you have two primary causations, which is the injections and the variation of radiation.
OK, so I've got your radio.
All right.
It's very hard for people to believe it because the radiation people don't believe it.
Well, they've been bored and bored.
There's all this radiation is safe.
Haven't you heard the news?
It's like all these childhood vaccines are safe.
Haven't you heard the news?
Steve, get on to it.
All right.
Next, Glenn's got his hand up.
It's very interesting that you say that because when I started radiology, so I'm a diagnostic radiologist, we used to have radiation badges and we had lectures on the physics of radiology, even though we were doctors.
And so but the point was that the it was absolutely essential to have these badges on.
And then all of a sudden, I think around about I can't quite remember when it was like round about 2000.
They said, you don't need to take use these badges anymore.
And I thought, wow, that's amazing.
Has the physics changed?
No, the physics hadn't changed.
And I was thinking, what's that about?
Well, as you said, radiation isn't dangerous, but it is.
And the thing about radiation is you never know what the lethal doses for individuals or any dose which precipitates something, if you understand.
So so it's very variable with individuals.
So and so it's even more important to have badges.
So when we were told when we radiologists were told you don't need these badges anymore, you don't need to report anything to the Radiological Society of Great Britain or whatever it was.
I thought, what?
What's that about?
After all the lectures we'd had on radiation physics and how dangerous it was for the patient and for us.
Imagine imagine if we were worried about radiation, Stephen and and all these kids on these mobile phones.
They would suddenly the sigh up would stop.
That's another thing.
I we've I personally fought off Orange on the basis of having three children right next to a mast, which they proposed to put in a zoo, which was contiguous with our house, the grounds of the house.
And and Orange wanted to put a mast there and I fought them off.
And but as a radiologist saying this is not acceptable when you've got a family of three children, young children exposed to this radiation and they had to put it somewhere else.
All right, we're going to move on.
Good point.
Well, now of course, radiation is not dangerous.
And that's so they normalized the dangers of radiation.
Yeah.
All right.
We're not quite talking about the same type of radiation, but still.
So I'd like to address a topic.
Right.
You're breaking up, Glenn.
You're frozen.
Now he's frozen.
You'll have to switch off your video plan.
Must have been an important topic.
Yes.
I'm not even.
Switch your video plan and then it might work.
Yes.
Okay.
Is it.
Can you hear me better now?
Yes, much better.
Okay.
So, Jerome, are you there?
Can I are you connected and listening?
Is he.
I'm listening.
Excellent.
All right.
So what I want to bring up is the what Bradley brought up is a very interesting issue relative to the banking system being the center connection point for all kinds of different corporate corruption.
And and in the same, you know, in a centerpiece of what we're doing, what's going on now with the evil elite and their attempt to do the world takeover.
One of the things that is very hard to do is to get people engaged and involved in working toward common goals and what our team my team is together with the my connections in the Intel side of the.
The Department of Defense is that.
We seem to get people to very much interested in if we can't save our kids.
What good are we as for humanity?
And therefore we're focusing completely on the child sex slavery element and the fentanyl poisoning as being the giant centerpiece of what's going on.
And we feel that right now with the assassination attempt, we potentially have the trigger that can actually motivate people to come forward.
Now, unfortunately, with the assassination attempt, all of the focus has been on the corruption of the Secret Service, which is an issue.
But it's a side issue.
The real issue is who placed the hit contract.
And as best as I know, I am the only reporter anywhere that has reported this and put it out on a media in that we've broadcast it on our L.
L four A TV one rumble channel, and we did that over two weeks ago.
And the person that put the contract out is Hunter Biden.
And and how did that come about?
Well, he's he works with his drug dealer and the crooks was also working with his drug dealer and has been active at it.
And as part of several convictions, he got off by being becoming a a snitch to the FBI.
And then he went into the the assassination business inside the drug cartels.
And and suddenly the Biden family knew they're in deep trouble.
And Hunter said, well, I'll pick up the baton and I'll put out the contract.
And and he did. And and that's where we are.
And unfortunately, nobody is focusing on that part of the story.
So I'm trying to get it to come forward.
And and and and again, you know, we need that kind of interconnects that covers a lot of different areas and not a lot of people do.
Whereas both you guys, Dave and and Jerome, you know, do have a lot of cross coverage, including the spiritual side.
Well, they I don't think we're going to get too far with a hundred Biden putting out a contract right now.
It's just going to be too much of a stretch for the anybody to really accept.
And the proof of that is going to be years in developing despite whatever whatever information you might have.
What I'm focused on right now is this exposing these algorithms in the state voter databases.
And I've got meetings set up in Ohio. We're still trying to get some funding for it.
But the county and I have created God's five stones, our com, G.O.D.S.
And we've got meetings set up for a week.
From a week from Tuesday, I guess it is in Ohio with the secretary of treasury.
So I'm trying to focus attention on getting something to happen with that.
And I think we can. And I agree that that's an important factor around getting funding for the state.
And I agree that that's an important factor around getting voting integrity.
But I'm not sure you were actually going to get the population motivated on that topic.
Well, let's wait and see. Well, let me let me say a little bit more.
The topic of of assassinations is of high interest.
In fact, the assassination of JFK.
I don't have the bandwidth to go there right now.
I just can't handle that as well as everything else I'm already doing.
I'm not going to get diverted. I got too much going on this other one.
And this other one has too great a chance of success.
And the other one I consider to be I mean, I spent 61 years on the Kennedy assassination to get a book that's definitive there.
It's going to take 61 years to prove that one, too.
And I don't care what evidence you've got.
It's just not going to. All right.
Then let me let me let me carry let me carry on the discussion with Dave.
Yeah, go ahead with Dave, because I mean, I think what you're doing is a noble effort.
Probably right. But in the time frame we've got going right now, it's not going to have time to gestate and develop.
And that's just my experience with these kinds of issues.
Well, I think there I mean, there's a difference in that the cover up was so effective for JFK that that the real data got dispersed and time.
Well, it's pretty effective.
Well, it was so far it is, but we're not very far into it.
And there's a lot more people penetrating and and there's a lot more understanding of where the complete false flags are.
And and while there there was the ability to bring forward some of the key information early on with the RFK, I mean, JFK, it didn't happen.
Whereas we now have the opportunity here to do it.
And because people once once the parallels are made all the way back to JFK and the fact that he hasn't got the time, he's told you.
I know. I know I'm giving my book is being used for that purpose already.
The book is already being used for that purpose.
I think why the purpose I'm willing to I'm only giving reasons why this can be accomplished.
And OK, well, and I get your time issue.
So let me continue the discussion with Dave.
So so Dave, you see where I'm heading with this, that that the ability to have the assassination attempt can in fact awaken people.
It's like, oh, my gosh, look how that happened.
And and and with it, anger and and you can't we solve it.
And the answer is we can't we cannot solve this until we get to a new administration in January.
And the issue until then is the evil cabal is not going to want Trump coming back and they are going to do everything possible to prevent that.
And that includes massive amounts of terror attacks.
They now have enormous number of terrorist cells that are distributed across the USA.
And we project somewhere between 50000 and 100000 terrorist cells are in place in every single state.
And and and they can be activated through their drug cartel connections or through their Chinese connections or through their Russian connections or through their Middle Eastern terrorist groups, including Hamas and Al Qaeda.
They're all here and and they all will accept money from people like Soros, who's the banker of all this.
He's trying to keep in place his his child sex slavery clubs.
There's over 300 of them spread across the United States that bring in one hundred and fifty billion dollars a year net profit to him.
And with that, he was able to bribe President Biden one hundred million dollars a year to to keep the southern border open.
And and that's the mix of what's going on.
Once you find out where all the dots are and start connecting them in the parallel back to 1963 is enormous because the actual you know,
while there are a lot of different players and a massive number of things included in the in the in the cover up, including the CIA, it was not the CIA that initiated the hit on on our JFK.
It was it was President Clinton, President Lyndon Johnson and David Rockefeller.
I mean, John John D.
So they were the combination that did it.
It's the same Rockefellers.
And this time we've got Soros, you know, much tighter in the mix.
But it's basically these things keep repeating, just like we're going to see this.
Everybody's, you know, recognizes that the downturn is going to come in the economy.
That's the same guys, the same evil elite right at the top that are initiating it.
And so so so here's the problem I have.
That is, if you go back, you know, a decade and a half, you you hit the 08 or 9 crisis and no heads rolled.
You then hit you then hit the covid crisis and no heads rolled.
You then hit, well, let's go the present, the attempt to assassination, which is now not being covered by the press, even though it's it's so obviously multiple people involved.
If you use the acoustics, whatever, no heads are going to roll on that either.
I think what I think, unfortunately, we're in a sort of a fourth turning world at this point.
And I think the way the system is going to have to self-correct is we are going to have to not back out of the valley of death, but go through it.
And in the end, it is going to be like a post World War Two world where we try to piece together what the hell just happened
and try to build a sort of a stable world after the fact and hope like how we haven't blown it, because these things,
these things, they just completely go by and people are increasingly despondent, increasingly demoralize, increasingly feeling like they don't have any control over their lives.
And that is exactly I mean, if you read all these books, I've been trying to read on on authoritarianism, that's exactly the playbook.
I mean, this is this is a script that plays out over and over and over.
You just get people you break their will.
Yeah, you brainwash them. You get them to the point where they'll do anything you tell them.
And so the Trump story is already off off the front page at some level, which is just amazing to me, because actually, if you ignore Trump, a guy was murdered.
Right. Like a guy was murdered.
And we've got all sorts of evidence that wasn't some brain addled kid that I don't think that could probably shot a single shot, although it's still very vague.
There's all sorts of theories. By the way, you guys ought to check into John Cullen.
He's got Asperger's and he's he's in some sense a quirky character, but he he I've done a couple of podcasts with him.
He's very data driven and he's done the ballistic analysis and and and it'll take you while to get through his stuff.
He lays it out slowly. So I don't know. I'm a little despondent.
I think I think we're going to have to hit bottom. We're going to have to wake up in our on a puddle of our own vomit.
And then finally, finally say, OK, enough is enough.
But do you recognize how bad the next few months could be?
Oh, I do. But I'm not I don't think getting to the next election is going to solve it.
I don't think we're going to elect our way out of this.
What I I I agree that won't be a complete solution.
So this isn't a superhero that that Trump gets to come in as a superhero.
But what we have now, if he starts wearing his underpants on the outside, I will concede he's a superhero.
My point on it is that what we have now is a completely unworking justice system,
that the legal system is is completely over overturned by what's going going on.
Well, weaponization of the DOJ is a horror story to me. It's the worst of all of them.
Correct. And the problem is JD Vance looks like potentially a horrible pic, depending on exactly the angle you look at it.
He can look OK and he can look horrible. Yes, JD Vance looks like he was groomed since Yale.
All right. I think that's part of the story.
For 20 minutes, we've got Peter and we've got Stephen for his last comments and we're finishing in 20 minutes.
But good questions, good points. All right. Thank you, Dave.
Peter. Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to let Stephen know he was talking about sorry to change the subject,
but he was talking about radiation earlier on and I was on assignment in Belarus in 1994, eight years after the Chernobyl affair.
And on one occasion, we went to a closed city. I didn't know about those at the time.
And we were working with doctors in the hospital there and they were using the 25 percent of the land area of Belarus was infected with radioactive debris.
And they were telling us about how they were experimenting and using the experience there to test the reaction of human beings against radiation.
And the doctors walked around with portable Geiger counters.
I was with a team of three people and the doctor put the Geiger counter on his thyroid gland and it went tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, up to something like 250 or whatever.
I don't know what it was. I'm no scientist.
And we're all quite amazed at this. And we said, can we have a go? And they said, oh, yes, that's fine.
I put it on my thyroid gland and it went tick, tick, tick, tick, up to 350.
And I said, my God, I'm more radioactive than you are. How's that?
And they said, well, where do you live? I said, well, I live in the West Country.
They said, where's your nearest nuclear power station? I said, Hinkley Point, 30 miles away.
And is it upwind? I said, oh, yeah, yeah.
He said, well, that's the reason. I said, what do you mean that's the reason?
He said, they all leak.
That's an absolutely true story. I don't know what Stephen would like to make of that.
I'm still pretty radioactive, I guess.
Well, Peter, I don't know the details, but I've got a memory that Chernobyl was of interest to me for two reasons.
The fallout fell in significant quantities in Frostbecken in Sweden.
So amazingly, the Bay of Frost, Frostbecken in Swedish.
It has a population of about a thousand people, or maybe at most two thousand.
Anyway, I married my wife. My wife is from there.
But she comes from Frostbecken in central Sweden.
So it's 270 kilometers northwest of Östersund, which is the geographical center of Sweden.
But the Swedes refer to it as northern Sweden, even Östersund.
But it's pretty cold in winter. It's like minus 26 is a common temperature in Östersund.
Well, particularly 270 kilometers to the northwest towards the Norwegian mountains.
But, yeah, so what was I going to say? Oh, yes.
So the radiation. So Chernobyl was detected, I think I'm right in saying, by the Swedes.
So that was one of the reasons why I was very suspicious about, you know, the professor of theoretical physics, Hans Benjamin.
So he proved in 11 different ways eventually.
That there'd been a thermonuclear explosion associated with the born with the pipelines, Nord Stream pipelines.
And so this was kept quiet.
And he also proved, if you remember, that the place in White Russia, which is south of the three Baltic countries, if I remember correctly,
and borders Poland. So Kaliningrad. Do you remember that?
Yeah, I read it. I read the report. In fact, Jerry Brady found it.
So it was targeted, Kaliningrad, because of the structure of the bottom of the sea as opposed to ocean, because it's not very deep.
But anyway, the point was that nobody spoke up in Sweden when the Nord Stream pipeline.
But the thing is, they should have done because actually a thermonuclear explosion in the center of Sweden,
the center of the Baltic, which is central US, close to Germany, close to Denmark, close to Sweden, particularly Sweden had an interest.
And they had the technology to pick it up because they were the first country to detect Sweden was the first country to detect the Chernobyl disaster.
Yeah, that's right.
So they alerted the world to what had happened.
And but then it turned out that the radiation, the radioactive fallout from Chernobyl, it had rained in northwest Sweden.
Sorry, not north, north west of the center of Sweden. So where my wife is from.
And it rained in North Wales and in both places were hotspots for radioactive fallout.
So that's a bit of a coincidence because I happen to be a radiologist.
Yeah. So I was getting it at work and I was getting it in both places, you know, the place we used to go in Sweden and here.
And so I just tell you that. Why? What were you saying?
Yes. Well, yeah, what I was shocked at was how I was more radioactive than those guys.
We were very fortunate to have a Belarusian army guard that looked after us 24 hours a day.
And they took us into the exclusion zone for two hours.
We were allowed to. I didn't quite catch what you said.
Where did where did he say that you had become radioactive?
So I thought you were in Wales. No, no, no.
In Belarus, a city called Svetlogost.
So why did he say you'd become radioactive? Because you like.
Because I put my I put his Geiger counter on my thyroid gland.
Yes. So where had you been where you'd been exposed to this?
The exclusion zone. Ah, OK. This was afterwards. Yeah.
Yeah. We were the army had taken us into the exclusion zone.
They said we were allowed to have a look for two hours.
I did hear you saying that, but then I kind of drifted away and then I came back and I thought you said you were in Wales.
Sorry. Yeah, no, no, no. No.
But whether he said that because we live in Froum in Somerset,
which is 30 miles downwind of Dinkley Point, he said it's likely.
Is that the nuclear power station? Dinkley Point. Yeah.
OK. Yeah. Yeah. OK.
But when you said Somerset, I heard Wales. I don't know why.
And I thought. Oh, no, no, not Wales. It's Hinkley Point in Somerset.
So sorry about all that. Then forget everything I just said.
No, don't worry. The the the doctor said all these nuclear power stations leak.
And because we're downwind from Hinkley Point, 30 miles away,
the likelihood is I'm more radioactive than they are living in the area of Belarus or Svetna Gorsk as it was.
What they've done is that I've got pictures of this.
They'd tarmac over all the roads, 18 inches thick.
But they didn't lift up the manholes.
So I stood in one of the manholes and I've got a picture of me standing in this manhole.
The other thing they told us was that this stuff moves about so it doesn't stay in the same place.
And that's why they carry their Geiger counters, because if they hit a hotspot, they know to get away from it quite quickly.
Well, the badges we had as radiologists were to detect radiation, of course.
So somebody in the chat had asked what they were for. And she also asked or he asked, why can't we have badges?
Yes, I saw that in the chat.
Yeah. So the question is, why can't we have badges?
Well, we could, perhaps. But we probably have to get them manufactured by the Radiological Society of Great Britain.
Yes, yes. All right.
I thought I'd just add that for some interesting background.
We were there for some weeks and it was quite an experience.
But don't you think it's shocking that a thermonuclear explosion took place in Western Europe and, well, Andi's and everybody kept quiet?
Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I read the report that Gerry found it.
This PhD physicist or something, and he published it. But it didn't go viral or anything.
I don't think people understood it basically. Gerry did. And I read it.
And they proved conclusively that it was a mini nuke that blew the whole line up.
So Peter, have you thought why they would use a mini nuke?
Yes.
To blow up the Nord Stream pipeline?
Yes, I can tell you why.
And why they lied about the size of the explosion?
Yes. Yeah, I can tell you why.
Because a very, very good friend of mine is an explosives expert.
And when this thing blew up, his name is Mike Huddit.
He lives in near Froome anyway in Somerset. I've known him 40 years.
He worked for ICI and goodness knows what, he's an explosives expert.
So I asked him what amount of explosives, TNT or whatever, amatol,
would be required to blow up such a big pipeline.
And he said, Peter, they couldn't do it with ordinary explosives.
They are. So someone's putting in the chat now, a bomb is a bomb is a bomb.
Well, that's not quite the point, because the point is, obviously,
nuclear explosions have a little bit more, the public are interested in them for good reason.
Because we have been told, I mean, I wasn't alive then, but Nagasaki and Hiroshima
were destroyed by two nuclear bombs, whether that's true or not, I don't know.
Yeah, it is true. I was alive.
You weren't there.
I was, I was born in December 44.
Yeah, but you weren't in Japan, were you?
Oh, good Lord, no, I was in England at the time in a pot.
All right, come on, we've got eight minutes to go, Stephen.
Thanks, Peter. An interesting article on the Washington Times on the 1st of August, everybody.
I printed it out here.
A federally funded study shows the decreased trust in the medical establishment during COVID pandemic made adults of all political stripes less likely to get vaccinated.
This is great news, everybody.
An online survey, 443,000 adults in all 50 states found that the share who expressed trust in doctors and hospitals plunged from 71.5% in April 2020 to 40.1% in January 2024.
There's almost half a million people from 71% down to 40.1%.
And in open ended responses, I'm just summarizing.
Half a million people, a lot more than that, Charles.
Half a million, I said.
No, a lot more than that.
You're saying that the trust went down from 71% to something like 40%?
To 40%, correct.
We're talking about 343 million people.
Well, how many do you want to survey before you get any opinions?
How many do you say becomes a valid number?
I see the actual numbers in the survey.
Sorry.
Yes.
I thought you meant in the United States.
No.
And in open ended responses, researchers said 35% of these 440,000 people said 35% gave answers suggesting the medical establishment placed financial motives over patient care.
Who could imagine that?
And indeed, this group well knows that the standard answer of most doctors of why they gave these jabs was, I've got a mortgage to pay.
So what's good about these surveys, people are waking up and more and more people are waking up and we have to do our bit to wake people up.
Steve Kersh, you're doing your work.
Dave Colum, you're doing your work.
Each one of us, we keep pushing this, the fraud out and the Stanley Plotkin admission is so crucial.
And, you know, I want all of you to just just to understand what Plotkin has admitted in his latest article, the Aaron Ciri deposition, the work of Dell Big Tree and anyone who says to you that children's vaccines are safe is absolutely ignorant.
Yeah.
So, Steve, last comments to you because we're going as two and a half hours.
That drop in percentage is absolutely huge.
And I bet that that that the most of that drop would be in the last year.
So that's not just that's not just COVID though.
It turns out that a great book is called The Plunderers by Gretchen Morgensen.
And private equity takeover of the health care system is doing serious damage to people's faith to the great book.
It talks about how they buy up the the the the hospital, the ER, the doctor's offices, got them, release them.
They go bankrupt and you get treated like crap the whole way.
Gretchen Morgensen, The Plunderers.
And the whole issue of the protocols.
The point I was trying to make, Dave, was that I think that in the next year there'll be another drop.
And if you've got 20 percent only believing that doctors are doing the right thing in hospitals in the United States,
then you might as well not have doctors in hospitals in the United States because 20 percent is a very low figure.
I know it's not 20 yet, but I bet it is in the year's time.
All right. Tom Rodman's got his video telegram group.
Tom has put that for those of you with the time.
Steve, get in touch with HBOT, with Anders, any others?
Jerome, thank you all for your contributions.
And Steve, who's Stephen, who's who you got for Tuesday yet?
If anyone. Yeah, I've got someone.
Oh, yes, he's. Yeah, he's not known, but he's on site.
He's he's written about lockdowns, so I'm very interested in.
Beautiful. The lockdowns are crucial, I think, and they get forgotten.
Well, and the New Zealand has just brought in a new pandemic principles that they want to mandate.
Jabs, vaccines, lockdowns like it's just it's as bad as worse than Jacinda Ardern with their new government.
Very interesting. We need Charles.
So Charles, his name is Francis O'Neill and then Jason Christoph is talking to us next Sunday.
So I really like Jason Christoph. Jason Christoph on PsyOps.
OK, everybody have a wonderful. He wanted to see Archbishop Vigano's take down of the Olympics opening ceremony.
So I'm hoping that he'll be able to apply his knowledge of mind control to that debacle.
Yeah, by the way, the Pope came out yesterday.
Yesterday, only 11 days later, pretty, pretty swiftly response by the good old Pope, the Black Pope.
All right, everybody, away we go. And what did he say, John?
Oh, he said, we're a little bit miffed, essentially a little bit miffed.
Like even the even the organizers of the opening ceremony came out with an apology quicker than the Pope saying anything about it.
Evidence. The Pope is a globalist, is a Black Pope.
The Catholic Church from the top level down stuff.
I didn't know that the Olympic Committee had apologized for the opening ceremony.
It had. So why had they employed that idiot then to do it in the first place?
Because the globalists will try anything and then pretend to be apologize.
Wow. At least we get to see two guys box each other for the gold in the women's boxing.
Yeah, that's correct. Correct.
All right, everybody. Have a wonderful Sunday evening, Sunday afternoon, Monday morning here in Australia.
We'll see you on Tuesday. Stay passionate. Fight for the truth.
Thank you, Stephen. Thanks, everybody.
Thanks for the contribution in the chat. Great job.
Thanks, Charles. Yeah. Thank you.