We start but anyway, we'll start now. Done. So starting in Roger you saw you saying.
Yeah, I've been quite prominent rallies in Alberta, basically trying to educate the population on the necessity for independence. And that was going splendidly with rousing ovations and enormous, you know, reactions from the crowd.
Not that I'm narcissist at all. It's just that I was connecting until they decided that I was too really being too brutal. People were leaving crying.
And I call that unfortunately the collateral damage of the battle. You can't please everyone. What we're trying to do is to drive is to drive anger, anger, naked, rapid anger.
Because continuing continuing to be nice is how we got into this mess. Exactly. And if you're trying to get out of a situation you created by being nice, you don't get out of it by being nice. There has to be the creation of enormous anger to create a peaceful revolt.
So Roger, the government of Canada thought that they should interfere and and make things better for the people crying. Is that right? Because they're crying because of what you were saying. Oh, naughty boy.
And and the government of Canada thought they were the right people to get the people not crying when in fact they were the cause. They were the primary cause.
Yes, they're they're intoxicated with wokeism, of course. Klaus Schwab's brilliant strategy was paying off in spades, infiltrating the cabinets and and bureaucracies internationally.
This is a very minority opinion, of course, but with all the force of government behind it. The good news is, I've said this publicly, thank God for COVID. Because the enemy is exposed. You can't fight a battle if you don't know who your enemy is.
So Klaus Schwab, thank you very much. I would ask you please to make it worse. Please make it worse. Because by making it worse will generate the degree of anger that I'm looking for.
And then ultimately, of course, because tyrannies always fail. This will all this will also fail. It's just a matter of the time course.
But the the Independent Republic of Alberta has a timeline of three to five years. Very doable in terms of the the the levers of power that you have to satisfy.
And that, of course, once we become independent here, we'll be a shining beacon for the rest of the world as to how democracy should function and how intoxicating that would be.
Because something that started right here in Alberta, in my own town of Edmonton, right on the tarmac, I was there when the truckers left. Truckers of all people started this. It morphed internationally, the Netherlands and Australia and so on.
It morphed internationally, the enemy was declared. And the net result is when it goes full circle, we will be the first true democracy in the entire world for everyone to emulate.
It's going to be absolutely incredible ride.
So, Roger, are you you're in Alberta? Yes. Yes.
Currently, I'm thinking of Costa Rica right now.
Sorry, you're what? I'm thinking of Costa Rica right now.
I see. Mexico. This is a fascist state.
Yes. If I wasn't a prisoner of income, I'd be off tomorrow.
But what's the name of the governor, the new governor of Alberta, Christine? No, not Christine.
No, I heard the title is premier.
And it's someone called Danielle Smith.
Danielle Smith. She used to come on these meetings, Roger.
Yeah, well, she's a she's a nominal conservative.
She can't be trusted because of her past, but she's the she's certainly the better of the two options.
A rabid socialist called Rachel Notley and Daniel Smith.
Now, Daniel Smith has done some very good things already.
Hats off to her. Not as much as we would have liked, but we must recognize the elections in a couple of months.
The polls are tight and she does not want to give the Socialist Party, the NDP ammunition to swing a few ridings and potentially win.
So I think we're going to have to wait until the election to see how Daniel Smith really reacts.
She's already slaughtered, literally the upper echelon.
Didn't didn't she say sorry, we lost you then Roger, you frozen now.
That's a shame.
Yes, frozen.
So, so just so you guys know, Roger is transmitting from rural Edmonton, and he often has little issues with his internet like that.
Okay.
Thank you.
So Roger, are you there?
He'll be back for sure.
Trying to get some life into him.
He'll be back. So what we'll do, Stephen, we'll do it at the moment.
Well, Stephen, we'll do the, we'll welcome every, we welcome everybody who'll come back.
So that we can get into his conversation.
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Have an open mind, raise yourself awareness we record this, it's available on the Rumble channel I'll put the address. I'll put the link into the chat.
And after Roger finishes speaking to us for as long as he wishes we'll have Q&A with him and hopefully we've got him for as long as we have.
And lastly, we're not interested if anyone's offended we are not in the offence industry in this group. And I urge you not to play the offence game either.
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I will share some of those with you.
So there's the intro. Well done to those of you who have chosen to be here the Super Bowl will start, will start after we finish so there's plenty of time Roger you'll be able to watch the Super Bowl after the two and a half hour mark, I see you've come back.
Roger how it can hear us now.
You've muted Roger.
Yes you are muted Roger.
What's the Super Bowl is that a golf game.
I was struggling to remember as well. Roger. Right, Raymond put in the note there Roger, you are the Super Bowl Roger so we've done the formal intro. Roger we're all ears for you, keen to listen to you and then we'll do a Q&A and hopefully we've got you for as long as you can be here.
Well, it's fantastic to be with you all again it's been too long, and I do thank you Stephen for the invitation and Charles.
I, as I was saying earlier on before you started recording. I was speaking to Sam Dubay last night a good friend of mine and I hear he might be online. He's online.
Hello there Sam. I'm right here, I'm right here Roger.
Oh my god, there are too, there are too few of us aren't there internationally probably a couple of hundred.
Probably a couple of hundred.
Probably a couple of hundred of us stupid enough to put our lives and careers on the line.
What's the big picture here I'll start off with a grand statement.
Some of you might have heard me say these things before so I apologize.
We're in the middle of the big kill.
The most catastrophic event in human history, not just medical history.
If you believe Peter Halligan's numbers which are pretty supportable.
We're looking at 20 million deaths internationally from the clock shot and 2 billion adverse events that starting to approach the death that male say tongue inflicted on its population.
I call it the great leap backwards of course that's approximately 40 million people died there.
We're getting damn close.
Yes, the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public and that is as of today.
Things are going to get much worse in many with many respects.
We have the uncertain increased prevalence but it's set definitely there as per Professor Dalglish in in in in London.
We have the uncertain prospect of the quantification of the increase in cancer.
We have the uncertainty about the possibility of female sterility because of an attack in the in the womb unquantified.
We have sudden adult death syndrome excess mortality etc etc etc.
It's been the biggest catastrophe in human history.
Three years of our lives lost the rape of our very soul utterly inexcusable and anyone that's asking for amnesty.
I say give them give me five minutes in a back alley with them.
I want vengeance.
I want rabid rabid vengeance.
The courts are not where and nowhere near close enough.
I want people to swing as per Paul Alexander.
Absolutely infinitely worse than Juremberg.
Can we put all the doctors in jail which is I'd love to know obviously the system would decompensate.
But if I put the finger the the the finger of the acute finger you might say on why this was permitted purely on the so on the shoulders of my previous colleagues.
Any physician that looked at pregnant woman in the eye and said this was safe in my opinion is a decomposing maggot to be exterminated.
We don't allow that thing in medicine.
It's not good enough to lose your license.
Does anyone remember the word thalidomide how short memory is.
No there's there's a lot that medicine is culpable for here because if we stood shoulder to shoulder and decided to put society ahead of our wallets.
None of this would have happened. Absolutely not.
It would have been stopped in its tracks.
But physicians chose to put their wallet first and that is not why we go into medicine.
We go into medicine to put humanity first.
We get up at three o'clock in the morning and we're cleaning shit out of a belly.
That's our job.
We get paid nicely for it and we have a title and respect.
We used to have.
But one of the biggest casualties of this mad episode in human history has been the universal loss of trust.
At every in every institution that we used to rely upon whether it was the police the courts are religious leaders but particularly physicians.
Is a pregnant woman going to believe her doctor next week.
If you looked straight in the eyes last week and said this stuff is safe.
I don't think so.
That trust that we had when the consulting room door was closed when secrets could be revealed confidential conversations take place.
That has gone.
We've earned that over centuries and it's gone like that.
I don't I'm not sure we'll ever get it back when the books are fully written.
As to the quantum of damage that has occurred.
Both in health in finance in psychological well-being in fertility and so on and so on.
When that is all fully quantified.
I believe that that is going to be one of the one of the major factors pushing people into a radical reform of how democracies operate.
And I think Alberta will be in the forefront of that as I said previously.
So that's that's my opening statement.
I take no prisoners.
I cut their knee tendons on the battlefield to come back and kill them later.
I am full of vengeance.
Rabid vengeance because of what's happened to society.
Exactly.
Roger.
So you say it very well because I tend to be too generous.
I'm not generous but if people are reasonable talking back to me I find myself forgiving them.
Before they've even admitted what they've done wrong.
And I think what we need to do Roger and then sure you'll agree is that we really need to work out what has happened to us in the last three years.
Exactly what has happened to us because until we do that if we haven't then we will never be able to exact justice for these bastards.
Stephen I put a finger on on the the finger on the trigger was was medicine.
But in the very very instigation of this three years ago.
But the cause of it the ultimate cause goes way back.
And it's nothing it's nothing to do with medicine.
The woke ism cubed the stealth attack on society by those parasites those junior faculty who we pay to transform society in real time.
So just bear with me for a minute.
A child goes to university.
And here's this inculcated subliminal messaging that's coming out of junior faculty service have been done 90% of junior faculty.
In the Western world are rampant socialists or closet Marxists.
They're self elected self perpetuating and they are turning our kids minds.
That's in a wink.
Your marks might depend on it depend on it.
They get it.
And so some of those go out into the general society and become of course lawyers and teachers and doctors.
But it's the teachers that I want to focus on.
They crank out teachers.
And what do the teachers do.
They've already been turned.
They teach the same thing to their tender children.
Those children then go to university the cycle completes and they get a second dose.
My God it must be right.
You do that churning for 20 years and you get into the mess that we're currently in.
Where the C suites of every multinational leaders of countries Supreme Court judges etc etc etc have all been bought and paid for.
Congratulations.
Your placement of people in those positions controlling the Alberta the Canadian cabinet for example which you boast about.
Congratulations.
Absolutely brilliant.
But you know what class.
We flushed you out.
We got your number now.
We're coming to get you.
But it's going to be a slog.
It's going to be a 20 year slog to get rid of these bastards in every position of power and influence internationally.
That's going to be very difficult.
But we've got to start somewhere and the way you start is very simple.
You turn off the spigot at the universities.
There'll be a wailing of gnashing of teeth attacking the very bastion of free speech.
Well if there's anything to be learned from modern politics is when someone is accusing you of something you can guarantee that they are doing exactly the same.
We are not attacking the universities.
They have been attacking society.
And it's now their turn in the dark.
And you control that by turning off the spigot.
Because let's face it universities are not in the business of educating anyone for anything.
They're necessary bums in seats.
Universities are businesses there to get money.
You get money by having students by getting grants from big pharma etc etc.
Money is what makes universities go around.
And you turn off the money and you'll have them begging on their knees.
I would fire every single fucking one of them.
And I'd say you're all willing, we're willing to have you reapply.
Please reapply.
And we will be very selective as to who we hire back.
And it won't be 90 percent of you.
The other reality of course about universities,
John Aonidis wrote a famous paper back in 2005, well before COVID,
in which he exposed the fraud of university research.
Fabulated data that's fabricated etc etc.
Conclusions that are inappropriate, poorly designed studies and so on and so on.
It's just a money mill.
Just a money mill.
They have to be bought under control.
Otherwise the game is lost and Klaus wins.
Sure.
Roger, you just have me a rest or do you want me to say something?
Sure. I really don't want this to be a monologue.
I mean, I can talk.
So we're clear. That's right.
You gave us a wonderful monologue.
Thank you.
And so now you're available so people can start putting their question.
Stephen first in the usual format, Roger, and then conversation.
Correct?
Wonderful.
Excellent. All right, Stephen, over to you.
So thank you.
So Roger, I'm glad you took aim at teachers because that is the root of the problem.
And teachers at every level, primary school teachers, secondary school teachers,
university teachers and parents and grandparents not doing their job when it comes to educating the young children.
And so we've got Klaus Schwab and the rest of them taking aim at our families, our social bonds.
And Roger, in case I forget to tell you, have you heard about Universe 25 experiment?
That was all about the Universe 25 experiment.
No, it was conducted in the 60s.
I think it was. I could have been the 70s.
And I can't remember the name of the guy, but it's absolutely brilliant.
This it's funded by the National Institute of Mental Health.
I didn't know that until yesterday.
I did know about Universe 25 about a month ago, and I was very interested from the beginning because I heard the expression social bonds and so that psychological torture, which they've been putting around the world, psychologically torching their own populations.
They.
Sorry, I've lost my track.
So, Stephen, extending your thought about the role of parents, I would extend the argument this way.
Klaus has been successful and universities have been successful, not just because of what they are doing, but also because of the vacuum that's been created by the home environment being demolished, the family environment where people are being
used to get their principal source of education and ethics and morals.
That's been destroyed and it's been destroyed largely for two reasons.
People don't care that, you know, with so many addictions to their iPhone and whatever's going on with Netflix, etc.
But I get off that soapbox.
The biggest, the bigger thing is that in order to make a living for a family, women have been forced to work.
Correct.
Now, I think every woman should have the absolute right to compete with men at foot to foot and do whatever they whatever seriously they want.
But from a societal perspective, women's role is infinitely more important than men's.
I say that tongue in cheek as men drive chariots and women make babies.
Making babies is infinitely more important and teaching children in the home morals and ethics is infinitely more important than anything men do, defending the country and bringing home the bacon.
From a societal perspective, women are where it's at.
And they are grossly undervalued.
And one of the things that I hope comes out of the Independent Republic of Alberta is sufficient prosperity that more and more women will be able to stay home should they wish to teach their children in the traditional fashion.
That would counter a lot of the crap that they're going to hear still in school and university.
You know, it used to be that homeschooling was thought to be a bit weird.
My God, is it brilliant?
Absolutely brilliant and to be encouraged in every way, shape or form.
Absolutely.
I agree, Roger.
So they've driven wedges between men and women, between parents and their children, between grandparents and their children.
And now they're trying to drive wedges through the trans agenda.
It's just so unbelievably evil.
I can't understand how people can't see it.
But then they're on their phones all the time.
So how are they going to learn anything that's worth learning?
There's been the absence of external threat.
I think that's a very good point.
There's been the absence of external threat.
I sign off a lot of my emails now with a whirlpool and underneath I say society's in a hedonistic swill down the drain.
When you're swilling down the drain, you don't realize you're swilling down the drain, especially when you're looking at your iPhone, you've got a water bottle in your other hand.
And you think you're going to see Netflix when you get home.
Instead, you're swilling down the drain, of course.
No, the society is in terminal decay.
We are obviously in decay.
There are two curves crossing the decay of the West and the ascendancy of China.
And if I were to say this, I hope I've got everyone's attention.
It's nothing to do with COVID.
It's nothing to do with Klaus.
It's nothing to do with the WHO.
It's all to do with China.
All these other things are a mere distraction.
We're in decay and they're in the ascendancy.
All this fuss about energy and rights and wokeism and so on is utterly irrelevant because China's winning the game.
And they'll pull the plug at a time of their choosing.
There's a fundamental principle of medieval warfare that's been forgotten.
You don't feed your enemy.
And so I like to leave my rallies with something that people can easily remember.
It's called ABCD.
ABC, first of all, stands for Anywhere But China.
Bring them to their knees by starving them.
Don't buy anything from China.
Remember, Trump was the first one to go public with the realization, I didn't know this, that 90% of our pharmaceuticals are made by our future enemy.
Amazing.
ABC, Anywhere But China.
And I could continue that analogy with Anywhere But Canada.
Don't think of coming here.
It's an absolute cesspot.
And then continuing the alphabet.
And of course, we have the other analogy there is the alphabet agency.
Agencies, ABC agencies, the CDC, the FDA, the NIH, et cetera, et cetera.
And DOD should be added to that list now, of course.
Yeah, yeah, ABC.
But D, don't forget D.
I say this because in Canada, everyone I speak to at rallies in the winter is vitamin D deficient.
Unless they're taking 3,000 to 5,000 international units a day.
Don't forget vitamin D. ABCD.
It's an easy moniker to remember.
Very good, Roger.
So, shall we give others a chance to...
Let's go.
Charles, can you make sure that the questioners stick to the point of not pushing their agendas?
It's a free speech.
Well, I know that.
But we don't want them to be dragged onto a rabbit hole.
A rabbit hole. Let's put it like that.
Steve Forsyth.
You're muted, Steve.
Yeah.
Welcome.
Hello.
Can you hear me?
Yes, we can.
Yeah.
So, Roger, Steve is a former Royal Marine, so you'll like him.
Yeah, hi, Roger.
Yeah, Steve.
It is Steve, isn't it?
Steve?
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, hi.
Steve, I want you to know...
Firstly, Roger, I just wanted to say I actually saw one of your videos very early on in 2020.
And I shared that with a lot of people and it helped a lot of people make the right decision.
I've listened to what you've said, obviously, in the intro because I was on quite early.
I just wanted to sort of put my point of view across because I saw very early on when the UK on the 19th of March 2020 declassified COVID-19 from a highly infectious disease to a non highly infectious disease,
and then locked us down on the 24th of March, I knew there was something fundamentally wrong.
And I saw one of your videos very early on, so I do thank you for that.
I think your statements about Canada leading the way and actually your stance on aggression and everything else is not how this has gone down.
I do see this and I saw it very early on as a conflict.
But the reason we've been successful and we are being successful, and this weekend has proven that with people all over the United Kingdom plastering the BBC and the media as the virus,
as they have done across the world, has got us to this point and place where there's nothing that can actually stop what is about to happen.
And I think it's really important to get across that we actually have won this conflict and we did it from a place of love and compassion for one another.
And I know you're not going to agree. And I also don't.
When you say ABCD, what I would say is in 1910, when the Rockefeller Institution took over the medical fraternity, they weaponized the whole medical fraternity.
This was a slow burner. It had no other objective. When you look at 1917, you look at the Second World War, the meningitis vaccine that was rolled out to the troops in the trenches, bacterial pneumonia.
Fauci wrote a document on it in 2008. This has been their last ditched attempt to eradicate us all. And they have failed miserably.
They wanted 500 million people left on this planet. And they haven't succeeded because 74% of the global population who bought into the Psyop stopped after two jabs.
And that's down to the millions of people that got activated around the planet and pushed back, stood up and said no.
So, well, right.
I think you're dreaming in Technicolor.
Klaus Robb, Biden and all the people, the leaders around the world were taken out in 2020 when they all were put aside for 10 days with COVID.
They all came back into the public arena, not being the people that they were. This has been the devolution of all the corrupt systems.
We have won this war. And trying to actually put out now to cause anger and dissent and aggression is completely the wrong narrative.
Because what's about to happen is the media is going to go down and the truth will be told for all to hear and see. That is the truth.
Well, I hope you're right. But I think you're dreaming in Technicolor. If I could use a military analogy here.
We may be winning the battle, but we sure as hell have not won the war.
The war was won before it was started.
The war requires eliminating wokeism at every stage of society.
That's a deflection.
No, no, it's central to it, Steve.
Absolutely central.
It's the miseducation which has caused this nonsense and the inability to stand up to mandates of an experimental...
Doctors around the world should have known from the instant this was being implemented.
And I did. And so did Roger. I did. And so did Roger. But unfortunately, the other doctors didn't.
Right. Why wasn't Roger's voice heard or your voice heard?
My voice was heard.
Because of the media. No, it wasn't heard by the masses. The media is the virus.
You said why did the doctors not speak out?
We did speak out. Roger and I did speak out. But not all the rest didn't.
We did a technological operation conducted by the media.
And the only way this finishes is when the media goes down.
We know that, Steve. We know that. But it's about education as well. We want to keep them down.
Listen, right. The excess death rate in the UK rose to 3,000 a week in the last month.
The hospitals declared a state of emergency. The hospitals are now being emptied.
I know our military were kept behind over Christmas leave.
I know people in the military that on 24 hours standby to drive the ambulances, the hospitals are being cleared.
They're being taken to other locations. They are being treated. There is nothing to fear at all.
We're not fearing anything. We're fighting this.
But you don't do it with the... Right. And the comment about China.
So if you tell people that this war is already won, it was one, two or three years ago, that just confuses people.
It can happen to me when you say that. It's very confusing for you to say that.
Right. Stephen, the truth is the truth. Right?
The reality is people have been taken out of our hospitals by members of the military that are driving the ambulances to other locations to be healed.
I know for a fact there's contracts currently in place to demolish Buckingham Palace, refurbish, make plates with another hundred significant buildings around London.
If we had anything to fear, why would that knowledge be on the street now?
Why would people know that if we still had something to fear? When Roger says about China...
Who's saying that we have anything to fear? I'm not saying that.
Right. Stephen. Come on Roger. Steve Forsyth, keep going and then we'll get back to Roger and then Theresa.
Yeah, what I was going to say to Roger, when you try and put everything on China, there are good people in China.
There's the black dragons and there's the red dragons.
There's the red dragons that control the heritage funds, that have put the heritage funds into place to monetize the quantum financial system.
This is a war on multiple levels. But when you thread everything together, this is the devolution of the old.
The end is the beginning. And it's like we are going through a transition.
Steve, it's like 1933 all over again. Learn from history.
They're in your bloody face and they're going to come and get you unless we react appropriately.
This is the first true war, Roger. In the Second World War, the American, the German vehicles were being run with Ford engines.
The Luftwaffe flying around in Rockefeller-fueled aircraft.
This is the first true war. This is literally good against evil.
There is nothing else to see. We have won this. It stopped when the Twin Towers were taken down.
We had to get active. The people had to get active. We had to pay back our power.
You're a dreamer, Steve. It ain't going to happen.
Okay. Thank you. That's what this place is about. Thank you, Steve, for sharing that.
And Roger, that's the beauty, everybody. And we come from love, not fear, everybody.
Absolutely.
And Steve, thank you for sharing your perspective of what's happening. On to Theresa.
Yeah.
Thank you, Charles. Can you see me?
Yep.
Yep. Okay. Thanks.
First of all, I completely disagree with everything that Steve just said.
I'm sorry, but I'm really with Roger on this. The fight is only just getting started.
I would like to ask Stephen Frost what a rabbit hole comprises before I speak, just so that I don't get on the wrong side of him.
Stephen? What's a rabbit hole?
I've been muted. Rabbit hole? No, it wasn't directed at you, Theresa.
Okay. Okay. Because I think we've just been down one.
Thank you. Thank you, Stephen.
Let me just state for the record that if I wanted to design a silo that would make everybody sit on their butts and wait for the cavalry twiddling their thumbs and wasting time, it would be along the lines of QAnon.
I would be inventing all these little fairy tales about all the Marines brave down in the dumps, the tunnels underneath London, blowing up the tunnels and rescuing the kiddies from the adrenochrome farms.
Yeah, that will keep people busy.
Right, back to you, Roger. Fantastic. A real rallying cry. I am so impressed.
I am a real world pragmatic guy.
I got absolutely no time for conspiracy theorists unless someone can connect the dots.
But I've got to tell you, I'm humble enough to eat humble pie, and I'm going to eat it right now.
A year or so ago, if someone had said the Department of Defense and Barda were behind all of this, I would have laughed him out of the room.
But there's an awful lot of threads coming together now, which would suggest, and I hate to support something that Malone has said because I don't hold him in very high regard, but he was the first person to go public with this.
And this story goes something like this.
It would be totally appropriate for any government to instruct its military to have contingency plans for the Armageddon virus because of the societal chaos that would result.
Totally appropriate. And they did that, and you would expect them to have done that.
To not to have done it would be negligence to the most profound degree.
So the Department of Defense and Barda had these contingency plans for how to handle the Armageddon virus.
And they were doing all kinds of things behind the scenes, including vaccine development and so on, because of that substantial threat from a rogue country like China.
It's looking increasingly likely that Fauci and Burks were simply the stooges on the stage following DOD orders.
And Trump, of course, narcissist as he was. I'm a Trumper, by the way. Still am. Big time.
But Trump was a narcissist. Fauci pitched warp speed vaccine in six months.
And of course, they both loved it. It was a marriage made in heaven.
But it wasn't Fauci. It was the DOD that had an unexpected.
I'm still sufficiently believing in humanity that I don't believe this was an intentional release because there's lots of evidence of how these labs leaked viruses over the years.
An unexpected opportunity arose, which the DOD jumped on as a way of play acting.
What? Let's use this as a as a as a practice run for the Armageddon virus.
It got out of control, obviously, massive unintended consequences like every rushed process.
But that's looking increasingly likely as the fundamental underlying rationale for all of this.
It wasn't it wasn't Fauci after all. He was merely the front.
Right. Well, you you've maybe you remember our conversation about a year ago.
You were on a zoom. I think you were wearing a very fetching Christmas hat.
Father Christmas hat. Yeah.
Well, what I would say to that and it was it was going to be my question is the bio the bio weapon word.
Can you now say the bio weapon word?
The bio weapon word because we know that the spike protein is the toxin in the virus and it happens to be used as the antigen in all eight of the vaccines that were developed through 2020.
The Chinese government released the sequence of the spike protein on the I believe the 11th of January 2020.
Within hours, Ralph Baric had downloaded it and reverse engineered it on a crisp machine and Moderna.
Apparently, it took them two hours to come up with the vaccine candidate.
But we do know that Moderna patented the PRRA Polybasic Ferrin cleavage site in 2017.
I think it was or 2016 before the pandemic.
So that existed and the chances of that existing prior to the pandemic supposedly is three trillion to one.
Three trillion to one. So this thing existed already.
And the chances that the Chinese government would release that spike protein sequence on the 11th and by the 12th, we've got a vaccine candidate.
Sixty six days later, Moderna injected it into the first human being.
I don't think that that was an accident.
I think what it's given them is plausible deniability.
The toxin in the virus is the same as the toxin in the vaccine so that the vaccine deaths can now be blamed on long Covid.
And I think it was intended that way.
Clausible deniability.
Yeah, I think there are too many.
Yeah, there are lots of dots in that argument.
But a forensic connection, I think, is still to be made.
I believe that I used to believe that this this thing came out of the Wuhan lab.
It's looking increasingly likely that it might even come out of the Boston lab.
It could have come out of the Ukraine labs.
Paul Alexander, as you know, thinks that this thing was in circulation maybe as early as May 2019, if not earlier.
Low level, unrecognized.
No, I believe I still believe in humanity.
I still believe that this was accidental, of which there's massive evidence you can never make a lab 100.00 percent safe.
It's impossible because you have a thing called people working in there.
They have dirty shoes. They walk out.
No, I still I still adhere to that.
I think, though, it's it's a practice run.
Look at look at it this way.
It's it's not rocket science.
It's not rocket science.
China or any other road country could readily develop an Armageddon virus.
And the way the way you release that is, first of all, you vaccinate your entire population against it under the guise of it being an influenza vaccine or something.
You vaccinate your entire population and then you release it.
It's perfectly appropriate that our military would have had contingency plans for how to handle that.
The the word that Robert Malone used, I hadn't heard before, which is warm manufacturing capability in an Armageddon virus kind of situation where China's already vaccinated its own.
There would be a massive scramble to sequence the virus and to develop an MRA virus vaccine for the front line troops and police.
That experimental vaccine would kill a lot of them.
That's that would be unfortunate, but it would potentially maintain front line defense.
That is what the D.O.D. was doing here was to see what would happen as a practice run.
And maintaining warm manufacturing capability of an MRA virus, despite all its massive complications in war.
You would recognize you would be killing your front line people with this vaccine in order to have defense of the homeland.
That seems to be the overlying strategy of the Department of Defense activity.
Not a malicious killing of society, but a desire that got out of control to defend ourselves against this very real and serious threat.
OK, well, let's see what happens in a year or so.
I hope that we're all here to have this meeting and see if any of us have changed our position on that, perhaps.
OK, it's a deal. Yeah.
Indeed. See you in a year. Thanks. Thanks, Theresa. Will.
OK, check, check, check, check. Yep. Hello. Hello. Got me.
Will, could you turn on your camera, please? I can't. I don't have a camera. I'm sorry, Stephen.
Right. Well, I shouldn't be asking questions then, because it's rude to be without a camera.
Just keep going, Will. Hey, Stephen, I would really appreciate it, Stephen, if you could, if I know that there's something about me that triggers you, if you could just relax and breathe and just give me a couple of minutes to express myself, because when you interrupt me, it really kind of rattles me and throws me. I'd like to try to keep my energy low key.
So, Roger. Just make a remark, Will, that it's rude to be without a camera when you're asking questions.
I'm sorry. I'm it's. See, OK, I'm not going to let you rattle me, Stephen. So here we go. Roger. Hi, Roger.
Hello there. So I followed you for at least a year now, Roger, probably more like a year and a half. I've been tracking you.
And I just got to tell you, man, your whole thing, it just doesn't make any sense to me. And I'm wondering maybe you could help me understand.
So the story we've been told is that in Wuhan, China, there was a new syndrome and it was caused by a novel virus.
And that was proven. So that makes it a new disease. And there was a pandemic. And as far as I can tell, you agree with all that.
And if there was a pandemic, then therefore countermeasures seem to be possibly indicated.
But with your narrative and you agree with all that, but somehow we get to we take we get to genocide.
And it seems like it's like evil, Knievel trying to jump your motorcycle over the Snake River Canyon.
There's this huge gaping hole that you get from a real pandemic to organize genocide.
And when people bring you the bridge, you start swinging at them.
Specifically, Christine Massey on February 3rd, 2022, you had an email exchange with her and you were like, you said, stop this utter nonsense.
See, the people that you know, there's a lot of them.
Andrew Kaufman, Tom Cowan, Mark and Sam Bailey, Kevin Corbett, Stefan Lank, John Rappaport.
The people that have been exposing the hoax, you called it in your intro.
You said this is the big kill, the biggest hoax ever perpetuated on humankind. I agree with that.
The people that have figured out the hoax come to you and you attack them.
And you are actually promoting the basis for the genocide.
The fact that there is a new syndrome, a new virus, a new disease, a pandemic.
All of that stuff is fake. And the people that say that get attacked.
Can you help me understand that?
Well, I'll try and demolish nonsense every time I see it.
If I have to eat crow later on, I'll do so as per the origins of this with the American military.
But there's too much crap flying around out there.
This whole business about graphene and so on.
You know, when you rush a product to market like this.
I didn't say anything about graphene.
Will, you've made this statement. Everyone, please.
Zoom is not the place and we're not going to have it.
I don't want interruptions. Go, Roger.
Yeah. When you have a massive rush to large scale manufacturing of a product that's been inadequately short.
You result in all kinds of contaminants that are in there.
Metallic, graphene, et cetera, et cetera.
And if I see if I see arguments being made about, you know, so focused on these contaminants, I think it's ridiculous.
It needs to be proven that it's intentional.
It's much more likely that it was a consequence of a massive rush to large scale manufacturing.
I'm just giving that as one example of something that I dump on.
Well, OK, but we haven't.
Will, come back. You haven't answered the question.
What Will doesn't understand is at the start, you know, we all applauded your strength about this as a massive cull.
But then you still have to be a massive cull.
I ask Will if you say it's still accidental, is still your perspective.
I don't think there's any contradiction in saying it was accidental and it's a big kill.
May I have a follow up?
Yes, Will. Yep.
Yes, Will.
Respectfully, Roger, you did not answer my question.
The question, what I'm saying is and what...
Excuse me, Will. If your questions...
Let me just say that. May I please?
If your questions are concise, I'll answer them.
Quite frankly, you're rambling.
Will? Precise question, Roger would like.
I'm working on it and it's tough when my mic keeps getting muted.
It must be a Zoom bug.
Here we go. I got it.
Let me just ask this, OK?
The point is I have heard Charles and Stephen both say a hundred times that this is a hoax, that this is a genocide, that this is treason.
And I agree with that.
And I completely agree with that.
But everybody here, not everybody here, a lot of people here, whenever people bring up the actual details of the hoax, and that is that the whole goddamn thing was a fake.
There was no new syndrome. It was pneumonia.
Pneumonia is not a new syndrome.
That's step zero.
That's a show stopper.
And then we go to the novel virus.
That's an in silico construct.
They never found any virus from any any human host.
Then they say that there is a new disease.
That means it was proven.
It was never proven, according to Koch's postulates.
There's no test.
How can we say there is a pandemic when there's not one test that has been validated to real world certified reference materials?
Okay, now we are 100 percent.
The PCR, the PCR is 100 percent junk.
So when people say this, the whole freaking narrative is fake.
We get shouted down.
We get our mics turned off.
We get muted.
We get knocked off.
Will, I will not have you complaining about your mic being turned off, which I do, when you are interrupting Roger with his answer.
We are listening.
You want a precise question.
You've asked a precise question.
And all of you, if you don't like the way I moderate, get off the call.
This is Stephen's call.
This is well moderated and we can't have crosstalk interruptions, Will.
You should stop arguing like a girl.
Anyway, let me.
And you know very well that I hold the view that.
I don't know what a girl argues.
Stephen, stop.
Roger, has there been a precise question asked?
Then we'll get to Peter.
Thank you.
I'll address that question head on.
What's just been spouted is utterly ridiculous.
Let me be explicit here.
So there's no misunderstanding.
This is a real virus.
It exists.
It causes disease.
Has the disease been massively exaggerated with the ridiculous PCR test, in which I know a great deal?
Absolutely.
But it is a real virus.
It has been sequenced.
We know a great deal about it structurally.
This is not some figment of someone's imagination.
It's not all the flu.
It's probably been circulating for a long time, much before the military games brought it back to Europe.
But the virus itself.
Has been causing disease, but essentially no worse than a bad seasonal flu.
What should have happened is.
I hate to sound crude, but we should have let it rip, just like we've done with every other flu pandemic that we couldn't stop because the vaccines were utterly useless.
There would have been short term carnage that we could not avoid.
It was infinitely better building herd immunity the natural way than the consequences of all the mandates, lockdowns and clock shots.
That's what amplified the madness.
But no, I've got to correct you very severely here.
Get off that hobby horse.
The virus exists.
It's been sequenced.
It's been seen by electron microscopy.
Every possible way of investigating it has taken place.
And to say otherwise is a simply a mad conspiracy theory.
OK, thank you, Roger.
Thank you, Will.
Peter.
Peter the Hooger.
I nearly pulled my hand down then because there's enough trouble in my life as it is.
But Roger, thanks for everything you do.
You are a loud, clear voice.
And wherever these voices come from at the moment, as Charles say, they come from love, because when we're passionate and we fight for things, whether we're as forthright as you are in your words or whether we're much more gentle like Stephen was saying that we're winning, we're all on the same side.
And we must remember that, you know, even Will, who is there now.
We care.
This is why we're passionate and we need to pull together.
Now, you and I spoke probably 18 months ago and I remember bringing up 5G.
I think 18 months down the line and I was shot down in flames by you, a bit like Will, in that you said you don't want to discuss conspiracies, et cetera, et cetera.
Well, I posted then and I've done tonight an NIH peer reviewed study that shows the hypoxia caused by 5G, which incidentally was rolled out under the cover of lockdown, where we were told we were only allowed out for one hour a day.
And all British Telecom and MJ Quinn and all these other companies put these masks up and they got the systems going and then all of a sudden we were allowed out, told to go out in the fresh air and given half price meals by Dishy Rishi at the time, Rishi Sunak, now our Prime Minister.
So I think we have all had an awakening here, Roger, in that this is a multifaceted attack on humanity.
I think a lot of people are realizing it is depopulation.
That is their end game, some more than others.
What is your stance on that? Do you feel whether this happened naturally, whether it was Wuhan, Ukraine, US funded, Chinese funded?
Do you believe that this is genocide, democide, targeted or is it just a big mistake?
The latter. The latter for sure.
I do not believe that this is genocide, as desirable as it might be for some pontificating idiots like Gates.
No, I simply believe that this was a predictable consequence of gain of function research that had been going on in many, many locations internationally that simply got out of control.
Simply got out. Let me turn this phone on.
No, gain of function has been going on all over the world, as we've discovered recently.
I mean, the expose in Boston, for example, quite recently, level three lab doing gain of function research right in the center of a major population.
I mean, the whole thing is so friggin mad. Gain of function should be stopped everywhere internationally.
It is an existential threat to humanity. Can we do that in China? No.
That is why I'm saying China is where it's at, guys. It's nothing but China. ABC. China, China, China.
If you don't get that, you're living through 1933 all over again. You're staring the enemy in the face and you can't recognize it.
Everything else, we should do a rearguard action. Of course we should against the WHO and World Economic Forum and try to correct these massive mistakes by democratic means in every country in the world.
Of course we should with great energy. And I'm in there like a dirty shirt.
But in the large scheme of things, China is going to be where it's at.
And if you think COVID and wokeism is a problem, you've got a big wake up call coming for you.
I understand. And I do respect, I fully respect your views on that. But I'll put this to you. My background, as you probably won't remember, is in policing.
I was chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear trained. Then I became a lawyer.
And what concerned me was something Steve touched upon earlier, that on the 19th of March 2020, the HCID was dropped to the level of the common code.
And six days later on the 25th, we were locked up, I think, on the lockdown on the 24th. But on the 25th, the Coronavirus Act 2020 came out, which actually gave local authorities the power to destroy your house.
And this sounds sensationalist, but the power is there. Now, more importantly, Roger, when I joined the police in 1984 as a bright eyed sort of bobby trying to help the public and save the world,
I had hair and muscles and I was full of energy at the time. It's all gone wrong. But at that time, we were asked, what's the most powerful court in the land?
And the answer I gave was the House of Lords, now the Supreme Court. And I was corrected by my sergeant, Bob Jones, who sounded like a Welsh preacher, lovely chap.
And he said, No, no, my dear boy, it is the coroner's court. Now this goes into your area of expertise, because pathology holds such a power and it holds the key in all this.
But pathology has died because they bypassed the coroner's court. They bypassed the power of the coroner, the most powerful court in the land.
Now, you can't tell me surely that this was a mistake and just happened. It had been planned. That piece of legislation would take months, if not years to write up.
And all the mechanisms they put in place shows that this was premeditated, Roger. Surely you see that.
Well, I'll speak to the pathology side of this. I've done work in the medical examiner's office here in Alberta. I've done hundreds of autopsies there years ago.
And I can tell you this, when I was working there, sudden adult death syndrome didn't exist. We found the answer for cause of death 95, 99% of the time.
What is going on in pathology is utterly unacceptable. I want you to know that forensic pathology is not exactly the destination for the sharpest knife in the drawer, first of all.
It's a bureaucratic position in which you're just beholden to essentially the Ministry of Health at the end of the day.
And right now, the ministers of health internationally do not want to know what's going on. They slow walk cases. I'm very familiar with a case in Canada of a pilot dying.
The report, the autopsy report on him is still not available one year later.
And when I spoke to the pathologist in controlling this, this autopsy report, I asked him this question.
Do you have available the two immunohistochemistry tests that allow you to distinguish between a vaccine related injury and an injury due to infection?
And the answer was no. Or an injury of other types. There need to be two tests done that are widely available.
One is a test that looks for the spike protein itself.
And another test that looks for the protein on the surface of the virus, the nuclear captured.
If both of those tests are positive, you've died of the virus.
If the only test that's positive is the spike protein in the nuclear captured test is negative, you've died of the vaccine.
It's not rocket science. They're not developing those tests, despite it being readily achievable.
Even Ryan Cole is only doing one of those two tests, despite protein test.
There's a pathologist in Germany, I just forget his name, begins with a B, who's doing both of them.
But it's amazing. They just don't want to know.
So the sudden adult death syndrome could be put to bed within a couple of months.
And I'll draw, if I may draw, an extension of that argument from SADS to SIDS.
Again, I'm going to eat humble pie here on camera.
Years ago, I trashed Kennedy's idea.
I'm getting a little bit off topic here of vaccination and autism.
But I'm also humbled by the fact that I accepted the CDC and FDA's opinion that the cause of SIDS was unknown.
You know, we wouldn't find anything in the child, the baby that we all talk to.
But just maybe Kennedy is right again that SIDS is actually due to the ridiculous vaccine programs that children are now being subjected to.
It's a much more rational explanation and that needs to be looked at much more thoroughly than it has been.
Yeah, pathology. I agree with you completely.
Pathology is part of the problem without it, without any question.
Bureaucrats just ticking off the days on the calendar till their retirement, just keeping their nose clean, going slow, following orders.
It's pathetic and it's global.
Everyone should be demanding autopsies of sudden adult death syndrome, and it's not happening.
I agree, Roger, and I have many chats with Cordelia, who I'm sure you will know, who is a pathologist in the UK.
And she has referred numerous cases up top and they'd always get back in touch with Cordelia sort of within the hour, demanding more toxicology reports or whatever.
And just nothing. She gets nothing back and she's pushed and pushed. She's coming up against a brick wall.
So this is planned. This is completely planned and we need to tear that wall down at the moment.
And it's people like you, I believe, in that direction, in that field that can do it.
Otherwise, without autopsies.
And I know there were some I've posted in the chat if you want to look at it.
Two years ago, the German pathologists and doctors went against government advice.
I have some very, very good results here.
I see the key is in your field.
You see, the essence of this could be summarized as this.
Correlation does not prove causation.
Something may be associated with X, but is not necessarily the cause.
And that's the current situation that we're in until there's proof of the pudding.
I understand that as a police officer and a lawyer, I fully understand.
Roger, I think that you have to.
I think what Peter is trying to say.
So put another way in March 2020, a hundred and ninety two countries or thereabouts did exactly the same thing in the response to a virus, allegedly a pandemic.
So I think.
That's never happened before in any field that a hundred and ninety two countries would agree or thereabouts agree.
And the lack of education we've talked about.
But I was talking long ago about postmortems not being done.
And why had that been written into the coronavirus?
What was it called? The coronavirus law or whatever it was called in the UK in a huge in a huge document.
It's you must read that Roger.
It's clearly planned when you read the coronavirus law and other documents.
So but anyway, you know, we're all we've all got blind spots and and I have to.
I just thank you, Charles.
I just wonder now, Cordelia would dovetail in really nicely here.
She's got a hand up. Please let us Roger on this, please.
Thank you. Yeah.
Cordelia before we get to Kathleen.
Hi. Yeah.
Just one comment about the sudden death syndrome.
It's not that black and white because you do get sudden death with a morphologically normal heart.
And usually if you send the spleen for genetics, you find the mutation like long QT syndrome or Brugada syndrome and that's that's or a mitochondrial problem inherited.
So you can do a postmortem, see a completely normal heart, but it does stop stop because the cardiomyocytes are just the conduction system.
So, but but Brugada and related conditions have been around for a long time.
There's a constant background noise level of that.
It's a very rare condition.
What's happened recently, of course, is a spike in sudden adult deaths that have no logical explanation other than vaccine related injuries.
It's one of these situations where they have to show that it's not so when the when the the suspicion is so great.
Yeah, completely agree.
But I'm just saying, you know, you can do an autopsy, find a completely morphologically normal heart and still have a genetic mutation.
So that did did happen in the past.
And the second thing is I've just sent tissue to Germany to this pathologist who does immunistic chemistry for the nuclear capsid and the and the spike protein.
So, but it takes a long time because he's only one who's doing it because I contacted a contact to the lab in London and they haven't even responded.
So it's just incredibly hard to get your hands on on these tests.
I know.
They just they just don't want to know.
What do you know?
Is that is that on a book heart or whatever his surname is?
They don't know it was Michael Mers, M-O-V-R, that he's interested.
And he also was on television and he got into serious trouble with the with the hospital management for speaking out on television.
He nearly lost his job and he's still fearing to lose his job simply because he was just stating a few facts.
But very decent man who has the antibodies and the whole department is behind him.
That's the interesting thing.
The whole pathology department is behind him.
It's just hospital management wants him out.
And and but it's just difficult to get hold of those antibodies because what are the credentials of the hospital management in that particular hospital?
I don't know.
He just told me that he's threatened with redundancy if he doesn't show on what basis you know.
Well, that's a good question.
I mean, that's happened to so many people.
Good question.
Thank you, Cordelia.
Thank you, Peter.
Are you done?
Thank you, Kathleen.
Thank you, Cordelia.
I'm Roger.
I'm actually from Nova Scotia.
Okay.
And I've the one person who I love hearing what you what is said is you.
Okay.
You've said a lot of things.
And one of the things you've said in the past is millions of people have to die before something's going to change.
And we are on that way.
We're on that way with millions of people who are going to die because of this.
And unfortunately, children included.
Exactly.
People who are miscarrying, abortions, all of that.
I've had experienced this just this past week.
And I think it's quite an amazing experience what I had.
I will tell you right off the bat that I was told by a funeral home that they do not have any autopsies happening here in Nova Scotia.
Okay.
So the funeral directors go in there.
There's all these people with these sudden adult death syndromes and they're young and no medical examiner is called in.
Nothing.
They they have no medical examiner.
And even the people who are burying their loved ones are not even questioning it.
These people are dying.
And so the people at the funeral home that I met with this week, that's what they said.
Okay.
And I do agree with the SADs and the SIDS that that has to be vaccine induced.
And it's just like that book that was written, Turtles All the Way Down.
Okay.
And that's what I'm saying.
Okay.
And we know nothing has been done scientifically.
All right.
So my experience this this week was I have a mother in my mother was in the nursing home at 93.
She was almost 94.
She passed away on Tuesday.
Okay.
So she passed away February the seventh.
She never got injected.
I made sure that she never got injected.
She never got injected.
I made sure that she never got any injection.
And that include any any flu shot.
Okay.
She never got a flu shot.
She was in the home for nine years, never got a flu shot and never got this.
And she basically was never sick while the home after they started the injections.
They had so many beds emptied by August of 2021.
They couldn't fill them fast enough.
Okay.
There was like 15 empty beds.
All right.
So she wasn't injected.
Whatever.
So then about two and a half weeks ago, apparently COVID did go out into the home again.
Okay.
So there was a COVID out in the home.
And mom, her only her only symptom was she was really tired, really tired.
So she was sleeping a lot.
And then she got this little cough.
Okay.
So she got a little cough.
It was loose when I went to see her and it completely disappeared.
So that Wednesday, so last so she died on February the seventh and the Wednesday before she just looked at me.
She had a hearing problem, but she looked at me and she says, I can't do this anymore.
I can't do this anymore.
She stopped eating and drinking.
And basically she's the one who decided at that point in time that cough was no longer there.
It was no longer there.
And the day that she passed away, they were giving her medications, but it was like once every seven hours.
I did not want her to be a maid.
You know, and they just basically killed her.
So she she was getting some medication.
She did.
She did die.
And but anyway, it was it was quite an experience of what I had.
And so what my mother fought against Satan from day one since I've known her.
Okay.
And what you said about children and having children and women, the most important job was to have children.
She had 12 and and she talked about how, yes, she had 12.
So she now has 21 grandchildren and 11 great grandchildren.
And Satan does not like her.
All right.
But I'll tell you, she I would not let her be injected.
And it was to the point where a year and a half ago, I had a call.
I called into the priest in the town in the town and I wanted to make sure she had a religious exemption.
So if somebody said, no, we have to inject her, I would say, no, she's a staunch Catholic.
She's not going to be injected.
So the priest who was at her church would not give me his signature for that religious exemption because of the Ecclesiastic authority.
And I actually just re listened to that video.
I recorded it 45 minutes to this priest.
OK.
And so anyway, what I didn't realize is I went up to that church on Friday or no, on the day she is she the day she passed, he went up to give her an anointment.
It was the same priest who wouldn't give her a religious exemption.
But I didn't realize it was the same priest.
OK.
He went up there and no inter gave her his final blessings.
He was supposed to do her funeral and he got sick with COVID.
He wasn't able to do her final her final sacrament.
OK.
And and to me, that was that was God knowing that he he wasn't doing God's work by not giving her a religious exemption.
And and he didn't deserve to do the final the final her final sacrament.
OK. And so I just want to say that this war we are fighting a war, a really big war.
And you can only help those who help themselves.
OK, so we do have to do this work.
We have to do everything we can.
We have to speak out.
We have to have these these truckers do what they do.
We have to do it all.
We have already won the war.
We know we already know we won the war, but we can only do it with everyone's work.
I mean, like you can't just sit back and and say, oh, God has won the war.
No, he can only win it.
And that's why I had that experience of where my mother fought against Satan.
And she talked about Satan, about the TV in the 70s.
She talked about how it brainwashed you.
They she said, do not do not watch that TV that brainwashes you.
And so I listened to her in the 70s.
So I would have been only like 10 or 11.
OK, and she's telling me this.
So you're right about women, women who basically are the people who are having the ones that are having children who are fighting against God.
So now as a Catholic, I understand the sacraments.
They they were stopping having the holy water at the foot of the church to enter into the church.
And that, again, was Satan.
OK, if you remove the holy water, that means Satan can get in the church.
And this particular church had a pool.
It was one of those, you know, the pool that is like an everlasting pool.
It's what he called those balls.
But they can actually put people right into this pool of water into the church.
Eternal. Yeah, that's right.
That's right. And so when the priest was doing the funeral mass for for mum and he was putting the he puts the holy water, he puts the ashes to ashes on her.
He then takes the incense.
He puts the incense because Satan does everything to even at the final resting to get into this soul.
OK, and you have to do everything to stop Satan.
I mean, OK, Kathleen, stop. Yes.
OK, OK. Sorry.
But anyway, I just want to say what you say there, Roger.
Keep saying it because you you did something very important.
Maybe 18 months ago to 12 months ago.
So you started. Yeah, I like to explain that.
Yeah. So I started once everyone started getting injected and I knew this was bad.
I started keeping track. So we know we're in May.
I went May 11th, 2021 to May 11th, 2022.
And I tracked untimely, suddenly unexpected deaths or after a brief illness.
I would not put anybody reported in the media. Correct.
Yeah. No, what I did, I went to the funeral homes.
I went to each funeral home and I went to the obituaries each week and I kept track of I kept track of them.
And so anyway, as I was going along, I was sending these letters to the Nova Scotia premier and the Nova Scotia medical officer.
And and I sent a bunch of letters and kept adding, adding.
And I did it for a whole year.
And in the end, I end up having a list of people. None of them were mental health issues.
OK, well, I shouldn't say that. But anyway, I wouldn't put them down if there was mental health.
I wouldn't put them or addictions. If it was in the obituary, I wouldn't put that on my list.
And anyway, in the end, I had three hundred and thirty two names of untimely, unexpected, suddenly or after a brief illness.
And the average age was forty nine. OK.
In a population of how many population is under one million.
That's right. OK. And I'll tell you this one thing in Nova Scotia.
The the full year death is about ninety ninety six hundred.
OK, ninety six hundred out of a million. So that's that's the all cause mortality.
What they had in twenty twenty one and it only came up this last year in twenty twenty one.
The all cause mortality was twelve hundred more.
Twelve hundred more people for twenty twenty one.
And every year it only went up like fifty people. It might even gone down.
Thirty people or whatever. And every year up to twenty twenty one.
But in twenty twenty one was almost twelve hundred more deaths.
And there are ten thousand deaths a year, approximately.
Yeah, about ten. But it was actually less. Yeah. Yeah.
So so anyway, I mean, it's it's there.
And so so there's so much going on.
But but if if we all fight our fight, we have to we have to continue to fight our fight.
And the more you talk about it and you have to be, like I said, positivity.
And you're always about you're fighting that Satan.
So you just do all this positivity.
And like I said, that priest didn't get to do Mums.
And and it was it was amazing. It was absolutely OK.
OK, we're going to get moving. Well done on your way. Thank you.
All right. Thank you. All right.
Glenn. Hi. I I want to talk a little bit about hypothesis and how you've shifted.
I'm a huge fan of yours as being a giant warrior of pushing back against all those that have have failed to to honor their professions and do the job that they were trained to.
However, I am somewhat different in the camps around the I am fully in on on how the US DOD has been involved.
But I'm on a different path around the ultimate who initiated it.
I don't believe it was accidental. I do believe it was by intent.
And I follow a variety of the thinkings of people like Vera Sharif, who is outlined in substantial detail.
The notion of how a propaganda machine gets going and how it incorporates from a very top level.
And and that that's what's actually driving us here is is that tyranny and a set of elite oligarchs that that some number of which are are severe sociopaths or psychopaths and not only want power, but don't mind death and damage.
So I would say there's some additional things you should consider in looking at the hypothesis of whether it's accidental or intent.
One of those areas happens to be in the military.
If this were accidental and that the military actually had a positive intent, why have they continued or why even through the entire period have they essentially tortured their own their own soldiers to to viciously attempted to to kill their own soldiers.
Forced them out of the system, isolated and even when they were they were prevented from terminating them, they still segregated them and violated all of the internal rules of the of the Department of Defense in doing daily torture against them.
I happen to know I'm very familiar with this because I helped to organize the whistleblowers to to both come forward and the military whistleblower.
It's a very specific court case with with with eight signatures to it that we help sponsor a press conference for them as well as engage Brett Weinstein to do a very thorough interview today to two sessions of interview.
There's just so many different cases for your your accidental case to be true would imply that Klaus Schwab was was more in favor of a personal favor of woke ism as as an end state that that's what he spent his whole career doing in building up the W E F was purely because he was in love with woke ism and and I just sort of have a tough time believing that I believe
Woke ism is an aberrant behavior and part of what's been well documented as part of the Marxist playbook of of how you you pit the culture against itself in order to dissolve the humanity part of the human race and and to alienate it so that it fights among itself.
I agree with a lot of what you said.
But again correlation does not equal causation.
There are all kinds of dots that have not been connected with straight line forensic hundred percent certainty.
I would be the first to agree that an intentional release is certainly a possibility.
I just don't believe it was likely.
There's so much evidence internationally of leaks from these labs.
Leaks have been occurring all the time Ebola.
Smallpox polio SARS.
The viruses have been very poorly managed in the in the security of those labs.
Even even the Wuhan lab.
It may not have originated from the Wuhan lab but we know from the Wuhan lab itself from the French who built the place and from the US State Department who monitored these lack of security there.
We know how abysmal the safety precautions were.
We do know that gain of function was happening at many locations internationally.
We do know that laboratory the perfection of hermetically sealing laboratories is absolutely impossible.
Those are the two things we do know.
So I think it should come as no surprise that stuff that was being experimented on for the most bizarre reasons could have accident easily been accidentally released.
And as Paul Alexandra has been documenting maybe as early as as May of 2019.
Circulating is a very low level before the PCR test started ramping things up in the morning newspaper.
Have you listened through the entire sequence that Sasha Lopova has put forward?
Yeah, I have.
And specifically, let me just this specific area.
She basically indicates that viruses of that caliber just don't last in the wild.
And that the reason they evolved at all was simply that we've been conditioned over many years of theories and television and movies around this fear of a biome being able to do things.
And in fact, none of them have been real, including anthrax, which was very much manufactured by a DOD person that was just trying to promote their their own vaccine.
And if that's true, then then it says there's there's there's not only what's out there, but it has to be conditioned and driven and in some fashions enhanced or sprayed even to to get it to continue to to to infect and distribute.
I agree with all I agree with all of that.
Well, I agree with all of that.
I just don't think there's a straight, despite the eloquence of her presentation and all the many and various details that she revealed.
There is no clear evidence of intentional release.
There's suspicion.
And it's well founded.
The primary option of gain of function being produced being undertaken willy nilly in probably 20 or 50 locations, if not more internationally with known with known releases.
It's much more plausible that it was accidental.
Thank you.
Thank you, Glenn. Jack.
A couple things I wanted to question or challenge this assertion that China is the rogue nation in the world.
I think the United States is far and away and undisputably the rogue nation in the world ever since World War Two.
We've invaded all over the place we completely violated international law.
We committed crimes upon crimes upon crimes.
And so my own country is, in my view, the absolute worst rogue nation in the world.
Regarding the question of the plan versus accidental release, you know, I was first, I immediately perceived this as a as a PSI ops, and, and that was, to some extent, my very first closes where it originated.
It first appeared in our number one economic rival and next appeared in our number one regime change target, which was Iran.
And then it shows up in Italy. So we know that the CIA can certainly release or deposit anything at once anywhere at once anytime at once.
And with drones, it's even easier than ever. You don't even need human intelligence on the ground.
So I looked at what was going on in Italy and discovered that that's fine.
The Italian government was talking about leaving NATO and leaving the EU and for for the EU to lose another major one of its only three left major economic powers, but pretty much collapse the EU.
So so that's what that was the first set of clues I started looking at.
And then I discovered that the World Military Games had been in Wutan just barely the month before this all came down.
And we know that the military is heavily infiltrated CIA agents.
So it would have been pretty easy for that for the virus to have been deposited there.
And then you start looking at some of this other evidence like David Martin just recently presented to this forum.
And about the whole history of this.
For example, you know, we have the history of the SARS coronavirus being patented over and over again for the last 20 years and every single patent is held by the United States.
And to be patented, it has to be something that did not originate in nature.
So that means it had to have been modified in some way.
So we have that whole line of evidence.
Then we find out that all these vaccines have actually been funded by the DOD.
We see that these are the these are the contracts that I think Sasha also exposed that.
So there's just a huge amount of evidence that this whole thing has been a bio weapon.
And that's something that Francis Boyle, Dr. Francis Boyle, who who wrote the the US implementation of the Bioweapons Treaty for international law.
He said that right in the beginning. He said this is a this is a product of the US Bioweapons Program.
And and I've always paid a lot of attention to Francis Boyle.
He's a great champion of Palestinian rights, which I am as well.
And so there's just all this now, you know, I don't I'm not looking for beyond reasonable doubt.
I'm not looking for one percent chance.
I'm looking for preponderance of evidence.
And I think the preponderance of evidence is in my mind pretty conclusive.
Then we see that the that the DOD was involved in funding all these vaccines.
And and then we look at the you know, the the the SIDS question.
We saw SIDS erupt after 1986 when all the vaccine companies were given immunity from liability and all of a sudden we have this this proliferation of vaccines on the market.
And that's when we also saw proliferation of SIDS.
So, I mean, that to me is a pretty I'm not a disbeliever in correlation.
If you know, in a court of law, it might require beyond a reasonable doubt to hold them guilty of capital offenses.
But they're certainly guilty in my mind by the preponderance of evidence standard.
So anyway, those are just some of my casual observations.
I've been following this whole thing for three years.
And everything seems to point in the same direction.
It's very sinister direction and a very deliberate direction.
So that's thank you. Thank you, Jack.
Roger, any comment before we get up, Avery?
No, I would agree with you in essence.
I mean, whether it was intentional or accidental, it's a it's a product of gain of function research, which from an intellectual perspective is absolute madness.
That's that's really the underlying factor, whether it was intentional or or or or not.
It should stop everywhere.
There are much more effective ways of attempting to counter pandemics than to do gain of function research.
But, of course, we have rogue nations who are doing it and are uncontrolled.
And so the Department of Defense, I'm sure, is thinking we have to try and understand what they're doing in our own laboratories.
Doing so does not mean that they're planning to spread something internationally.
It's I think it simply means that they're doing what you'd expect them to do, which is to anticipate and plan for an aggressive act by China.
Well, of course, what I see them as having done being proactively attacking and and other countries and destroying other populations.
And they've been doing that for a very long time throughout my entire adult life.
The the the discovery early on I found was Charles Lieber, who was the former head of the Harvard Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology.
You know, he was indicted in early 2020 for lying to federal investigators about unreported income from China.
And that goes back to 2012 from 2012 to 2015.
He was paid over fifty thousand dollars a month to establish a laboratory at Wuhan.
And he happens to be a specialist in nanotechnology,
which, of course, has turned out to be a key technology involved in the development of these vaccines.
So there's just all these lines of evidence.
He was convicted incidentally of December of 2021, but just a lie and confederate investigators.
And I've been trying to find out what testimony was elicited during that trial about what he was doing in Wuhan.
So I see this as a conspiracy, probably involving both the United States and China, who have been working actually hand in hand.
Anthony Fausse is a good, you know, his partner, his collaborator in China is Xi Zengli, who's head of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
And this is a very, very complex web that has been woven.
And again, I and Francis Boyle has advised attacking this at a local level since the since the the all the federal judiciary has been completely corrupted.
And but he thinks local judiciaries are the way to go.
And and we're finally seeing some of that.
There's some local district attorneys and attorney generals who are beginning to bring lawsuits to bring some of these criminals to justice and to get that whole ball rolling, which is where I I place what little hope I have.
So there's lots and lots of lots and lots of facets to this jam.
OK, thank you, Jack. Yeah, Jack.
Avery the Brinkley from Florida.
Thank you, Charles and everybody else.
And thank you so much, Roger, for being here.
Just a comment, maybe a little bit of humor injected is we all know what we know, but what we don't know, we don't.
And we try to find out so that eventually we do know, but we can talk about it to the cows come home unless Schwab and Gates get rid of the cows.
So going beyond that, I have a concern that is if D.O.D., which we know was directly involved in their other transactional authority with Pfizer to manufacture a countermeasure prototype, which was called out to the public, pushed as a vaccine, which we know it wasn't.
If they were doing that to because they were concerned about an accidental release of the virus as is possible, why have they why is this persisted?
Why have all the agencies, which I think D.O.D. does have control over ultimately they did before and I think they do now.
Why do they keep inflicting all the propaganda on the public and pushing the shots that we know are harmful?
And I don't know if the rest of you or some of you listen to this recent committee hearings, health care committee in the Senate, the U.S. Senate.
It was amazing how Walensky from the CDC and all the rest of them who were put on the spot about that.
Oh, we're we're just they were denying data.
They were denying the realities that we all know exist to keep pushing what they began pushing at the beginning.
Now, at the very beginning, maybe it made sense.
I bought into it for a few months.
I think we all did.
We didn't know any better.
Some of us didn't know any better.
But over time, we've learned why did they keep pushing a narrative if D.O.D. did this, but then they realize it was fraught with mistakes and problems and inflicted a lot of harm.
Why wouldn't they come forward and correct that unless they had an ulterior motive?
To harm the public.
Well, I take your point.
Again, I, I, I perhaps stupidly have too much faith in in humanity, not wanting to not wanting to kill itself on this kind of scale.
I would like to think that stupidity and other motivations, greed, etc.
were were were bigger motivators.
I think we also have to recognize that although books might well have been a stooge for the D.O.D., he was the one pitching to Trump.
Now, although I'm a huge Trump, everything he did on COVID was dead wrong, and I would encourage him to stand up and as we are trying to do and do the big mayor Culver before 24, if he in fact becomes the candidate.
But the the the problem that I see with with with American politics and and this this vaccine is.
I hate to sound I hate to sound disrespectful here for any men who are small in stature and standards does not apply to you.
But we had we had a failed little man.
Fauci failed little man.
Who'd never succeeded on the grand scale with his HIV vaccine.
But we had a failed little man with lots of money who was looking for glory.
And he was pitching to a narcissist who was also looking for glory.
And it doesn't take much to imagine how a short conversation could have resulted in something like this.
Hey, Don, we can fix this in six months.
I've got the vaccine well under control.
We can get it out there and really solve this problem globally.
What do you think? Should we do it?
And some probably said without any hesitation.
Sure, go ahead, Tony. Let's do it.
Because there was it was a marriage made in heaven.
Both one insecure, one a narcissist.
And I think that also was a psychological factor that played into all of this.
Remember, Paul Alexander was there.
He saw this being played out in real time about how malicious and and and lying Fauci was with Trump on a regular basis.
It didn't take much to get this thing going.
Of course, it might have been it might have been if in fact this was an accidental escape from a lab that was funded by the U.S.
It could be that Fauci was the very first person on Earth to realize, holy shit, the gigs up.
I'm responsible for this.
So I'm going to do everything in my power to try to contain it, including a walk speed vaccine, just to try to get his ass off the line.
That could be could have been an act of desperation by Fauci to introduce measures which are known to be absolutely useless.
So what you're what you're saying is that these aberrant personality traits, narcissism and whatever, are self perpetuating.
And the reason we still see the push on vaccines, all the denial of the data that we do know scientifically,
medically, and which then means they're followers of all this still that we're trying to educate.
The reason that these people come through and testify and still are vocalizing the same narrative is because of the ultimate inability to admit that they were wrong.
Right. OK.
Yeah, well, we're seeing we're seeing that happen with by inference.
I mean, there's a movement now, as you're well aware of, you know, amnesty and forgive these people.
They did not know what they were doing, et cetera, et cetera.
Bullshit. Yeah. Absolute bullshit.
I got no time for amnesty. I want jail time for every single frigging one of them.
Well, Paul and I were on the same page. Paul Alexander.
Yeah. And I'm in that C21 Google group and we go back and forth a lot.
And as far as we're concerned, it's these people need to be subjected to our justice system, a justice system and prosecuted appropriately.
And if found guilty, off to the gallows. Right on. Right on.
Thank you, Avery. Thank you.
Thank you very much for for your insights.
First of all, are you aware of the racial specificity of four aspects of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, the ACE2 receptor binding domain, the furan cleavage site that Teresa spoke about, which is a bacterial cleavage site,
the TMPRSS2 cleavage, protease cleavage site and the GP120 slash 41 CCR5 racial specificity?
No, I'm not.
Okay, I put something in the chat there and if I can send you more things, I'd appreciate that.
And keep in mind that civil war, most of these wars were divide and conquer.
Make one guy the bad guy and the other guy the good guy and make them fight until the death, until all countries are bankrupt and taking out loans from the banks that ended up making all the money from World War I and World War II and even our civil war in the United States.
This, this may be a divide and conquer operation, because if this is a racially specific SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, you really want to find out who it doesn't kill.
And kills the Chinese because you saw them dropping dead.
But it may not kill some other people and I'll encourage you to look at that as a as a possible ideology of who might benefit financially economically because if you live through this you win a lot.
If your kids don't get infertile, made infertile, you win a lot.
And then I don't think it should come as any surprise that genetic differences produce different reactions to particular infectious agents.
The receptor structure, the ACE2 receptor, the detailed structure of the ACE2 receptor, for example.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are ethnic differences there.
But again, that that should almost be expected.
And it does not necessarily mean that this was intentional genocide against particular races of human humankind.
I don't see the connection there.
Okay, well, I'll leave it up to you when you figure out the all the the groups of people that this may not affect.
The other issue is is what what we're not being told and maybe what the presidents aren't being told and maybe even what the department at the low level Department of Defense is not being told versus the high level Department of Defense.
And we may have, I mean, a group of physicians, including and and then Rosemary Gibson, the author of a book called China Rx, were the ones who told the Department of Defense at the level of the Joint Chiefs that the medications were made in China and they did not know it.
They did not know they were buying active pharmaceutical ingredients from China because the APIs, it doesn't say where they're coming from.
And, right, and they were told in June of 2019 and November of 2019. We were allowed to release this information to the AMA and there's a resolution in the American Medical Association about our medical locations being made in China, they were allowed to stockpile before the COVID.
So that was very helpful.
Here now, don't be surprised that the level of Joint Chiefs Department of Defense aren't being told who designed this SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
And, and Charles Lieber was was convicted of some garbage nonsense charge.
I mean the real things he was, he was doing, he was protected from. So just be aware that there may be some issues there.
The, you know, this comes down to, this comes down to bad guys in our intelligence versus good guys in our intelligence.
And, and it's very difficult to figure out who the good guys who the bad guys are.
The one thing that we are being withheld from us are the secret contracts between and among the Department of Defense, Pfizer, Moderna, and those secret contracts will be telling but we need to request them.
HHS Office of Inspector General is supposed to oversee secret contracts but has never requested them.
In fact, when we told Daniel Levinson, the former head of the HHSOIG that the medications were made in China, this was a national security threat, we told him before we told the Department of Defense, rather than ask for those secret contracts, he quit.
We told Scott Gottlieb, he quit.
All within two months of each other in April of 2019. So, these secret contracts are very, very important.
And we need to hold the, and some of these things that these, these, let's call them unacknowledged projects by the Department of Defense, maybe unconstitutional.
Genocide is unconstitutional.
And so, I encourage you to look at that as you take a weary eye to calling China or Russia or anybody bad. It might, we have to look inwards and first look at these secret contracts before we blame things on it.
On, on these other people, and thank you for very much for your for all your insights.
Just to be clear, although I'd much prefer to be an American than a Canadian.
I used to be a flag waving patriot in Ottawa, but no more. I will never stand up for the national anthem again.
Do I consider America perfect? Absolutely not.
But it's a world of real politic.
It's a matter of the lesser of the two evils. Would I prefer China to the United States of America as of today?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not. Can America, does America need to have some radical change in the way it goes about its democratic business?
Absolutely.
But remember this, as much as you may question the use of military force, which with which I agree, historically, they are the bastion of what we used to call democracy.
And if they go down, there's even less protection against the advances of China, which would make any of our complaints on this call about the current world affairs in the West utterly irrelevant.
Do we really want to live under ESG controlled bank accounts where you can travel along the lines of what's going on in China?
Obviously not.
But that is how they are practicing their own politics.
And it's much, much more offensive than anything that's being laid out in the States.
All right. Thank you, Roger. Thank you, Jim.
John Baldwin.
Hello. Hi, Roger.
First of all, thanks for all you do and all that.
I guess I'll just, it's been so long, I forgot my main question.
Here's a quick statement and then a quick question.
Thanks for hanging in there and putting up with certain people that want to push their ideology on you and try to sell it to you.
And that's what we all do. And there's nothing wrong with that.
But the ones who kind of get angry about it and push too hard.
It seems like it's more about their ego and narcissism than it is about trying to win people over.
You don't win people over by shoving things at them constantly.
And I'm kind of tired of certain people that do that.
But anyway, my question is, have you talked to Byron? How's he doing?
Haven't heard from him in a while. He used to talk to him weekly.
No, it's a strange thing. I was on the deck with him in Ottawa.
And Byron's a very private individual. He's being subjected to enormous stress.
We've not been in frequent communication at all.
I deeply empathize with what he's been through and continues to go through.
I consider him to be one of the most important warriors that we have in Canada, standing up and having paid the price.
An admirable man and a global, international level expert, as we all know, in virology.
Him and Geert van der Bosch, the two most preeminent virologists in this whole business.
All right. Thank you. I was worried about him because I know he's wrapped up with a case and his lawyers told him not to talk to people.
But we used to hear from him every now and then. But now he's just kind of dropped off.
Yeah, no, it's he's under a lot of stress.
And I wish we could have a chat. But I'm afraid the silence is deafening.
Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thanks for everything.
Thanks, John. Steve Forsythe.
Yeah. Roger. Yes. Hello. Yeah. Hi.
I've sort of been listening to the last 20 minutes with intent.
In 2020, the overall mortality rate in the UK was exactly the same as the five to 10 year average.
Right. As it was pretty much across the planet. Yep. Yep.
And across the planet, all medical fraternities said that the flu for the first time in 130 years had vanished.
Do you do you agree with that? Now?
Yeah, it's this this business about the flu.
I mean, historically, there have been years when the flu was much less prevalent than it had been previously for no for no understandable reason.
It wasn't a mutation or anything. It just well before COVID.
There have been very erratic flu epidemics. That may be one factor here.
Now, the other factor that we all know about is the is the confirmation bias.
People go to hospital in the middle of COVID. They've got a fever, they're coughing, etc, etc.
It's assumed to be assumed to be COVID. They do they do a ridiculous PCR test comes up positive.
Bingo. You're labeled as as COVID and no one no one says the sample off for influenza.
So Dr. Michael Yeeden, who I believe you know, yeah, is now of the mindset as a lot of other people around the planet.
17000 doctors are absolutely convinced the viruses don't exist at all.
Never have done. But what's your comment on that?
Well, as I said earlier on, that's absolutely dead wrong.
This this virus has been sequenced and seen by electron microscopy.
By the way, for everyone interested, it's not a ball, as is frequently shown graphically.
The EM work on COVID-19 show that it's actually a disc, not a ball.
So there are freedom of information requests sent to at least 30 countries around the world to show an isolated sample of the virus and none of them could do it.
Well, I'm sorry. I mean, there's always evidence to the contrary in any scientific debate.
All I can tell you is that mainstream virology accepts that this virus exists.
It's not my speciality, but I do read avidly and I tend to believe the established experts in the world, such as Byron Bridle, Gert van der Bosch, to confirm that the virus is real.
And Gert van der Bosch worked for the Gates Foundation.
And there's not anything at all from 2020.
If bearing in mind that the overall mortality rate in 2020, when this was supposed to be at its worst, was no higher than the five to 10 year average at all.
That's right. And the reason for that was that a very small number of people in reality were actually dying of COVID and it just disappeared into the background noise of statistics.
COVID actually never existed because when you go back to the start of...
Steve, we haven't got time for a whole bunch of this.
I just want to say one thing and it's really important because I have used this statistic and it's very important.
From January 2021 to March 2022, there's an 8200% increase in the death rate of 10 to 14 year olds in the UK.
Since the rollout of the vaccine.
Right, right.
Right, so there is no other correlation. So if there's no excess death rate, now what we're looking at...
Right, on the 29th of November 2021, the UK government put on their website that myocarditis was an adverse reaction to Vajap.
On the 29th of November 2021, we're now looking at an increase in the death rate of over 3000 a week.
Right.
This was a genocidal...
Okay, okay. That's the statement. You've made the statement, Stephen. Stop. You've made the statement. Is there a question?
It's the truth.
Good. Okay.
Now, my question is, will you still state on record that this isn't a gene editing bioweapon?
And Kathleen actually asked the question and she put this in biblical terms.
In the patent of this jab is the insertion of a triple helix.
We have two double right-handed sided helix.
The numerical code is 10 5 6 5.
So every sulfuric bond, every 10 5 6 5 nucleotides.
When you insert the triple helix, it changes that numeric code to 10 5 6 6 6 5.
This is where the whole conversation comes into.
This was the first true war, good against evil.
Good. Thank you, Steve.
Thank you. You've made the statement. Roger, anything to say before we get to Rima?
No, I think we should move on to further questions. Thank you.
Thank you, Steve. Rima.
Thank you. First of all, I want to say,
almost as a side comment, my research over many years into documentation of many years tells me that this was a planned event.
It was planned for, patented for, and laid out many decades ago,
waiting for the technology to bring about the genocide and enslavement and transhuman agenda.
So that's my conclusion. It doesn't mean that I'm right, but that's where I sit.
However, I have a question for pathologists and toxicologists that I do not know the answer to, but I would love to know the answer to.
It is my hypothesis that the sudden deaths where people simply plank over and die, often in tetany, following the initial planking, sometimes not in tetany, and sometimes with a rotation around to look at something before planking.
In my experience as a physician, people don't die by planking over very frequently. I've never seen it happen.
My hypothesis is that people injected with or transfected with nanotechnology that is receiving post electromagnetic, that is, post microwave frequencies, can be put into voluntary muscle spasm with the appropriate frequency.
The heart is a voluntary muscle, and that would suddenly stop somebody from having a heartbeat.
If you look at the videos of these anomalous deaths, and I have unfortunately watched hundreds of them, you see that there's no blinking.
There's no calling out.
There's no calling out. There's no statement of mama mama or don't let me die or please help me or oh my God what's happening because all of the voluntary muscles are in tetany at the same time.
My question is, my hypothesis is that this is a, an experimental way of killing people using pulse microwave with people who have been larded with or loaded with the receivers that would allow that to happen in the body.
My question is to people who would know the answer to this and I certainly do not.
So is there, if you had the opportunity to do an autopsy on somebody who had died through having electrical stimulation of the voluntary muscle fibers cause instantaneous contractions and and technique.
Would you be able to see the results of that in your examination if you had a whole spectrum of of clinical chemistry and microscopic tools available to you, could it be detected.
If that were the cause of death.
I don't think so but I, but I think your hypothesis is highly unlikely as a as a mechanism of death.
You know, the current the current thinking of sad is that there is because of the prevalence of the clock shots that many many people out there have subclinical myocarditis.
But I'm saying that there are two, two ways of dying, one of which is to have a conventional myocarditis cardiac kind of event, a coronary event.
And the other is this strange highly anomalous planking death where people fall over in full body technique and die in a very particular way that as a physician I have never seen anyone die from.
So it's, it's a subcategory of sudden adult death syndrome.
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but I mean, there's no plausible mechanism for what you're describing pathophysiologically.
But and secondarily, the more much more plausible explanation, I think, is what Peter McCullough is talking about, namely that the this tremendous prevalence of subclinical myocarditis, which when when an individual with that condition unknown to them.
And that undergoes some sudden catecholamine surge, some sudden stress to their entire vascular system, heart rate, blood pressure, etc.
Or even in the early morning when you're waking up when it's recognized now, it was news to me that there's a catecholamine surge, preparing you for waking up.
Those are sufficient additional stresses on an already diseased heart in order to put you into a sudden ventricular fibrillation.
And then you then you then you then you literally fall over.
Well, typically when I see someone collapsing of a ventricle ventricular fibrillation or some other cardiac episode, they don't stiffen and fall over in one piece.
Typically, people fall when they die and they clutch and there are movements and responses to the episode.
I've seen, unfortunately, as any physician has lots of people have coronary episodes.
And what I'm struck by is the anomalous nature of these particular deaths.
But thank you for your answer.
Thank you.
Thank you, Rima.
Anna.
Hi, sorry that I can't put my camera on everyone but my broadband is hopeless so I'm trying to get an ethernet cable for future use so please forgive me.
Roger, thank you so much for everything you're doing. I think you're absolutely amazing and you were one of the beacons of light for me.
You know hearing you speak out and in such strong terms.
I have a couple of questions for you.
When you give your analysis, and you say that you're furious and you want vengeance.
I'm unclear as to a who you think are the perpetrators given that you're saying it's an accidental release.
So who are the perpetrators that you want vengeance from, and for what crimes. Okay, so that's one part of the question.
The second part is that you say, you know that the doctors have put their wallet before the oath, and their ethics and the law, and I totally agree.
You say, we can't, you know, we can't take them all to trial because obviously the health system would collapse. But the issue there, the issue there is that the rule of law demands that we take the perpetrators to task.
And as a lawyer with my, you know, with my legal analysis, it's the people who have injected this, whatever it is, into somebody else without fully informed consent freely given who are the main perpetrators, they are the ones with the weapon in their hand.
So we cannot give them amnesty we can't say oh well the health system will collapse because if we leave, they'll carry on doing it.
Those questions. Thank you.
No, I agree with you, you just got to be pragmatic here in the in the administration of justice.
There's a hierarchy of responsibility. It starts at the top and it gets broader as it goes down, including all physicians including all religious leaders including all politicians.
I mean, every single structure of society has has been responsible for this.
But the, the people at the top of the pile, who were in insisting on this as a dick tat, including the colleges of physicians and surgeons into internationally.
You know, they are they are the ones that should be in the dark, the ones that were intimidating people into into having the shot to keep their job to intimidating physicians to shut up and not not not give out notices not give out exemption letters and not prescribed by the
Those are the people that should swing after appropriate justice is administered without without any question.
The scale of death here is is incomparable to anything that's happened ever in human history.
And the colleges of physicians and surgeons. Let me just get on a pedestal here about this for a minute.
We're seeing we're seeing basically the colleges of physicians who are there to protect you from me.
Not you. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. To protect society from us. Let's put it that way.
And over the years they've done a reasonable job at that, making sure we're not pedophiles cutting off the wrong leg and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Okay.
But now instead of protecting the public, they are killing the public. I'm saying that publicly and with force. Come and get me.
It is utterly despicable how the colleges have transformed and become the the the the servants of government to enforce these policies and at least I can speak just to Canada now.
I'm not sure about internationally, but what what we're now seeing is that these very colleges who intimidated physicians in that way.
They are now saying, oh, you misunderstood. This wasn't a dictat. This was merely a recommendation.
Trying to wriggle off the hook when they are personally responsible for the deaths of so many people in each of the jurisdictions that they claimed to be active in protecting the health of the general population.
It is beyond despicable. It is repulsive. It's repugnant. And they need to be brought to task and dealt with in the most harsh way possible.
It's happening in the West as well, Roger, in America. Same thing.
Yeah. Can I just can I just say, though, I agree with all of that, Roger. But what do we do then to stop physicians committing these crimes going forward?
Because we can we can take the colleges to task and the public health officials to task, etc.
But ultimately, you know, if if these medics and these vaccinators don't know the law and the ethics that that govern them or don't care, they're just going to carry on.
So that's my big question. How do we deal with the medical profession to make sure they don't do this going forward?
We and there was a president in the Second World War.
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you know, this is I've been studying and I'm going to do a presentation, Roger, I don't know if you can make it on the 21st of May.
Not 21st. Is it 21st? Yeah, it is about the Hadamard trials because I've done one about USA versus Carl Brandt, which was the main medical trials brought against the doctors in the Third Reich.
But in the run up to the medical cases, there were the Hadamard trials from the Hadamard Institute, which was one of six main institutes set up in Germany to kill the physically and mentally disabled.
They started off there, but then went to others. But, you know, when you look at what they did there, it was, you know, it was throughout Germany that again, the medics were killing people knowingly with the euthanasia, etc.
Only a handful were brought to trial. And so they've all just been allowed to carry on for the last.
You know, pre-COVID, pre-COVID, I think that most physicians were still operating freely under the concepts of informed consent and first do no harm.
I think that was pretty well generally accepted. What happened, the big thing that happened with COVID was an intimidation of the, an intentional intimidation of the profession by these colleges.
And it worked. It worked because money, money, unfortunately, is one of the new, if not the main driving force behind medicine.
You've got the title, you've got the income. It's a peachy life. Thank you very much.
And I don't want to give that up. I've got a mortgage and kids in college.
So they crumbled.
I agree with the fact that they've been allowed to be, allowed themselves to be intimidated, etc.
However, the evidence from the UK is this, that the vast majority of doctors haven't even read their code of conduct on the GMC website,
let alone the decision making and informed consent leaflet that the GMC produces, let alone, and that's a six page leaflet, which cites various case law, including the leading case law in the UK from the Supreme Court of Montgomery and Lanarkshire Health Board.
Not a single doctor that I've spoken to apart from some here have actually read that judgment.
Okay. And none of them have read the Nuremberg judgment of USA versus Karl Grant.
So in fact, the level of ignorance of medical ethics and the rule of law is profound.
Let me just give you a really quick primer on medical education.
When a physician comes out of the tube and starts practicing,
they basically are simply passengers until they retire.
They might read an editorial in one of the journals now and again, which of course is now suspect because of the corruption in the major medical journals.
They're just not interested.
They force them to go to continuing medical education where they where they sit in a seat because they have to looking at their cell phone and doing whatever, whatever their physicians in my opinion, once they come out of the tube, are the least
predictable sector of society.
All they're concerned about is making money clocking off at five o'clock and four o'clock and playing golf.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Medicine has changed.
It's a money machine.
They want all the respect and that comes from the title and the money that goes along with it.
But they've lost their they've lost their moral compass when it comes to why they're actually there, which is to serve humanity, to get up at three o'clock and do a house call to clean up a belly full of shit.
Whatever they've they've lost that calling.
It's all about money now.
So here's a suggestion and then I'll let everyone else talk.
My own proposal would be that medics have to have some kind of basic certification before they're allowed to practice specifically in informed consent.
They've got to pass an exam to prove they actually understand it before they're allowed to take any undergo any medical treatment for anyone.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
And can I just you've just reminded me, Anna, that in Sweden, I was surprised that to get the Swedish registration as a doctor, I had to do a three week course or three weeks is better than nothing though, because we didn't have any in the UK.
Three week course on Swedish medical law.
Brilliant.
Exactly that apparently has had three hours on informed concept.
I'd forgotten about it until now.
So you triggered my the memory that I remember the course that I hadn't actually thought of it when you were making that point that doctors hadn't read the law regarding human medical experimentation, they had no idea that this was human medical experimentation.
Most of them.
In the Second World War.
Okay, Steven, Roger wants to say something.
And instead of instead of that approach, which is absolutely brilliant.
Instead of that, I can just speak to Canada here.
If you want to renew your permit, it's not a license anymore.
They are permitting you to practice medicine, just like you're a plumber for God's sake.
If you want to renew your permit, you have to actually sit through this ridiculous kindergarten experience of some simulated situation in which a doctor is making sexual advances against a patient.
It's so kindergarten, you have to answer these questions.
There's a questionnaire at the end of each one of these ridiculous little segments in which the question if you want to conform is so perfectly obvious, and you'd be forced to sit through this stupid charade.
That's what they're putting out to make sure you can get your permit renewed, not an understanding of what you're describing informed consent and first you know how the whole thing is absolutely ludicrous.
So, Roger, there were forces in British society intent on humiliating medical doctors from 20 years ago when that when this whole revalidation thing was winding up.
Sorry, winding up was, you know, getting going.
They were intent on.
I asked several doctors who were appraising in inverted commas me.
I asked them, are we some kind of circus performers or what is the intention.
I think the reason why they used this word that the administrators have thought this word up because they couldn't get to medical school or whatever you know there's a lot of jealousy, which Roger will attest to of people.
And you know, Dr. You have to put up with a lot of people who didn't get to medical school, and a sniping at you all the time, but the administrators are really really bad in the NHS, they're looking for a way to outdo the doctor at every, and they were undermined,
they were humiliated in the UK.
Stop stop stop we got finishing. We're supposed to finish in two minutes we got two hands up and then Stephen last question, Teresa then.
Teresa john you took your hand down but anyway we're on the two and a half hour limit Teresa.
Hi, thanks. Hello again.
I've been listening to the conversation riveting. Right, I would put this to Roger and ask his opinion okay.
Humans would struggle to design a biological weapon with so many diverse toxicities killing over so many timescales. I've made some notes okay it's cardio toxic neurotoxic genotoxic cytotoxic hepatotoxic.
It's writing itself into our DNA it's weakening placentas, it's emptying umbilical cords of stem cells, it's killing babies in the womb, killing neonates killing sperm, making eggs and viable and many many more things we haven't even discovered yet.
It's clotting in our veins in our arteries, red clots white clots, it's preventing our DNA from repairing itself it's destroying our CD8 killer T cells. It's sparking turbo cancers, Lewy bodies, CJD it's shifting our antibody response from IgG three to IgG four, which are the kind of antibodies you need for allergies not infections, your immune system is waving a white flag of surrender.
And I think that the vaccine 2019 is not peanut butter. Okay, there are now five and a half billion people with broken immune systems. How is this not a biological weapon, and if the vaccine is a biological weapon, then the virus was.
Well, I think, I think the rap sheet that you just read out was the most perfect list that I've ever heard I congratulate you on assembling that it, I agree with you the, the implications are absolutely damning.
How could this possibly have been inflicted on billions of people. I totally totally agree.
But, but we're also faced with all these political realities that could have found a way of ignoring these consequences, once they started along the path of trying to protect you from all of life risks, one of which of course is COVID and we know how ridiculous the attempt was.
I don't, I don't believe that.
And all of these consequences that you so well described were at all know, even in the gain of function laboratory where this was being with this was being experimented on. There's no way that they would have been able to predict that degree of toxicity.
It could have been assumed that all kinds of these things could happen, but but but certainly not even with animal experiments even with six mice.
There's no way it could have been predicted. I think it's, it's just a grotesque example of political stupidity that got totally out of control.
Excuse me, I'll tell you one way it could have been predicted okay.
We are this close to a leap in artificial intelligence that would surpass human intelligence okay. Right. And people running the show as psychopaths, and they don't tell us everything they've had trillion dollar slush funds since the 1940s okay.
They've got black ops slush funds, and it is guaranteed that their technology has got to be decades ahead of where we thought it was. Okay, I think we can all agree on that.
So, it would appear to me that if you if you're dealing with psychopaths right if they can do something, they will do something. And given that they are so far ahead of where we think they or thought they were, then isn't it a natural assumption that they've already done it.
It could well be, and I'll maybe finish with a with a philosophical statement.
The demise of democracy, it's, it's, it's built into the concept. When, when freedom is expressed without responsibility. This is the consequence, no constraints on freedom, doing anything that you can, we become far too intelligent with we are far too intelligent for our own good, just because we can do something doesn't mean to say we should be allowed to do it.
Absolutely. And, and, you know, it's very interesting, I think that AI with all its, its many and various horrendous implications. It's very interesting that this is being pushed. When we haven't a clue what's going on up here.
Correct.
What's consciousness, how do we form thoughts, logical thinking, we haven't a clue how our own brain works but we're smart enough by a fluke of evolution to have intelligence to design AI isn't that we're not.
That's the problem. We're not.
We're not. The problem is that once AI gets to a certain point, then AI will beget AI, and it will have a quickening it will accelerate and I think that they are lying to us. They are telling us we are within a decade of that.
I think it happened a decade ago. And I know that there was an experiment run where they used an AI program and they asked it to design numbers of ways of talks of poisoning human beings.
And in a six hour program run it managed to find 10s of thousands of ways to poison a human being okay, and I think they've already done it and I think that this spike protein which is in the virus, and in the vaccines is an example of what they've managed to do.
Nothing else could explain the multiple toxicities, the multiple time scales and the plausible deniability baked into the cake. I'm sorry Roger, I respect you tremendously, and I'm so glad you're on our side but I think that this spike protein is a biological weapon.
Okay, thank you for the statement.
We're over time.
Yeah, Charles.
So Teresa, you, it sounds I don't think you mean it that way but when you're speaking you you make the points very well, but it sounds like you think also that artificial intelligence will be better than human brains, no, wrong, it will never ever be better than human.
We need, we need an artificial intelligence experts after two and a half hours. Thank you Teresa. Stephen one last question to you and then we're going.
So, Roger in 2009.
The swine flu pandemic took place. I don't know whether you know this but I've got the evidence that the whole thing was a fraud. It was planned. And it was proven at the Council of Europe investigation, which was brought about by Dr Wolfgang Wodarg.
There has been a pandemic fraud previously, and I think that there was no pandemic in 2020 that there wasn't either a new disease probably there was no disease, COVID-19.
And there's a possibility, but we haven't got time to look into that now, but there was no virus and that whole world of biology was created by these monsters behind these terrible crimes.
And by the way 20 million deaths you mentioned I agree that's the figure I've come to worldwide, and that's short term deaths. We haven't counted in the medium term deaths and the long term deaths.
And, and the attack on human fertility.
In both males and females.
All right, and the psychological torture.
We've got it.
Come on.
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And for all of you who are interested there's plenty of time to go to the Super Bowl I think it starts in less than an hour, Sam.
Yes, I am headed there.
Very good. All right everybody.
Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Put your put your predictions everybody. Those of you who are still here. Who's going to win so that we can compare on we can give credit on who's playing Charles I really don't know who's playing Kansas City Eagles and the P.
What's the other one, Sam.
Oh, the king so I, I totally forgot. Sorry. So there's I'm Canadian.
Yeah. So there's, there's the Chiefs and the Eagles. Yes, the Chiefs Kansas Chiefs and something Eagles. Anyway, they're two.
Who is it? Philadelphia. Thank you.
versus the chiefs leave it to glad. Thank you, Glenn. Come on, put your predictions in the thing we will give credit to those who predicted and if you're even braver.
Albert put in his score prediction. So there you are.
Wow. Charles, could you send a chat to me please. Yes, David. Albert has a big.
Thank you. But put 3124, but I can't remember who he chose.
Yes, Philadelphia Eagles versus Kansas City Chiefs David for what that's worth and and Siobhan predicts the seven frost will win so there you are, Stephen, you're, you're one of the predicted winners.
Who said that.
Siobhan.
I am.
I'm just going for the chicken wings.
Very good.
Eat up Sam, eat up.
Sarah, I got your note. Thank you.
By God bless.