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Isn't it fantastic?

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And so, you know, the perfect is the enemy of good.

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It is good, as I said a couple of days ago, that men can't compete against women in sport.

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It's good that the borders are shut.

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It's good that children's trafficking is being attacked.

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And, and to then say, yeah, but well, no, you know, it is a, it's

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classic line.

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You can always find shit in life.

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If you look for shit, there's plenty of shit.

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If you focus on shit, your life will be shit.

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So anyway, that's a message for the recording.

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So let's get this show on the road.

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Welcome to everybody to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International.

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In today's discussion, this group was founded by Dr. Steven Frost almost four years ago

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with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.

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Steven has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower

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and activist, his medical specialty is radiology.

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At this time, we remember Rainer Fulmick unlawfully incarcerated in a German jail, undergoing a

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show trial.

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We call on his immediate release from jail.

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Publicize his situation as much as you are able.

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I'm Charles Coviss, the moderator of this group.

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I'm Australasian passion provocateur.

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We love passionate people here and there are plenty of passionate people.

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I practiced law for 30 years, 20 years before changing career 31 years ago and over the

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last 14 years, I've helped parents and viewers to strategize remedies for vaccine damage

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and damage from bad medical advice.

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Bad medical advice is now the number one killer of people in America, ahead of heart attacks

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and cancer and diabetes.

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I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company.

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We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world.

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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.

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Now, many of us proudly say, yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers.

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And as the evidence of Stanley Plotkin, the alleged godfather of vaccines in America has

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confirmed, no vaccine ever in the history of mankind has been properly tested for safety

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or efficacy, safety and efficacy.

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None, none, zero.

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If this is your first time here, welcome and feel free to introduce yourself in the chat

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and where you're from.

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If you publish a newsletter or a podcast or you have a radio TV show, put it in the chat

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so we can follow you.

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Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III and the medical science battle

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is only one of 12 battle fronts of this latest world war.

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I assess we're five years into a seven year war.

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So gird your loins everybody, be up for the next two years and look after your health.

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There's nothing more important as I've got a friend of mine with a beautiful young wife

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who's going through some cancer problem and that's when you realise health is pretty good

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thing to have.

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As the Dalai Lama would say, you Westerners are crazy.

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You spend your, you spend your health chasing wealth and then when you've got your health,

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you want to use it to get your wealth back.

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Most of us understand the development of science and the science is never settled.

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The meeting runs for two and a half hours after which for those with the time, Tom Rodman

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runs a video telegram meeting.

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Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join.

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We'll listen to our guest presenter today, Alexander Makouris, who I will introduce in

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the moment for as long as Alex wishes to speak.

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And then we have Q&A, Stephen Frost, by long established tradition, asks the first questions

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This is a free speech environment with appropriate moderating.

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Free speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human freedoms.

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Some of you, some of you have yet to learn what appropriate moderating is, but as the

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If you're offended by anything, be offended.

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We are lovingly not interested.

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We reject the offence industry that requires nobody to say anything that may offend another.

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Similarly, we reject the triggering industry.

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Don't you dare say anything, Alexander, that may trigger someone to do something.

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They are both fraudulent attacks on free speech.

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However, we come with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear.

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Fear is the opposite of love.

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Fear squashes you and enslaves you.

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It drives disease in your body.

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So come from love, not fear.

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These twice weekly meetings are not just talkfists.

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An extraordinary range of actions and initiatives have been generated from linkages made by

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attendees in these meetings.

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If you have a solution or a product or links or resources that will help people put the

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details in the chat, the meeting is recorded and is uploaded onto the Rumble channel.

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Now welcome to our guest presenter today, Alexander McCourus.

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We thank you, Alexander, for giving us your time and sharing your wisdom and insights.

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And for the purposes of the recording, I will give you a little bit of a little bit of your

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interesting background and you can tell us some more of that depending on where your

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So Alexander was born in Athens in Greece on the 20th of March, 1961, everybody.

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So the 20th of March, send him a birthday card, put it in your diary.

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He arrived in London in September 1968 when he was seven years of age.

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He educated at the University College London, graduated B.A.

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Modern History and First Class Honours in 1982 when he was 21.

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He passed his solicitor finals in 1987 and was called to the bar in 2006.

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He was a political adviser, speechwriter to the Minister of Culture in Greece, 1981 to

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In private legal practice for 10 years, he was duty solicitor through all the courts of

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justice for nine years.

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He's been a writer, commentator on Russian and world affairs for the last 12 years.

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He's the co-founder of the Duran website, 2016 and the Duran channel, 2018.

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So wonderful background. Interesting.

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My background is Hungarian, Alexander, although I'm both I was born in Australia, but both

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parents are Hungarians, president of the Australia Hungry Chamber of Commerce.

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And it's wonderful having that exposure to a couple of cultures.

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And the only culture, as you well know, as an expert on culture, is the culture in

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yoghurt. But anyway, you can explain culture to us, Stephen.

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Thank you for creating this group and for organising Alexander to be with us today.

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Alexander, over to you and you can share your screen if you wish.

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Alexander, can I just say a quick word to Charles?

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So I noticed that President Trump has there's been an executive order to restore plastic

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straws in America. Did you see that?

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I did. Well, it's highly significant, I think.

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And I was wondering, Charles, whether you think we should try to get a message to Trump

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and ask him whether you could create an executive order to order Germany to release the

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Ranapalmik.

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Yes, there is an excellent idea and there are steps being taken to that end.

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And people are writing to Donald Trump, people are linked in this meeting.

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I know that they've been doing that.

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And what is clear is that we have to make noise.

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So let's make noise.

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And it's our connections and there's so many things to do.

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But I think the plastic straw paper straw is a beautiful tip of the spear example of

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Let's find the pressure point.

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I remind you all, how does a lion kill an elephant?

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Because a lion can't kill an elephant.

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What the lion does is take a bite out of an elephant's foot and waits for the elephant

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to bleed to death.

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Plastic straws, paper straws, this whole climate emergency fraud can bleed to

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death. And perhaps plastic straws are going to be the lion's bite that brings the

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elephant down because there are so many people making so much money making our lives

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miserable in the name of a fraudulent climate emergency.

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And I say that for those of you watching the recording who think I'm ignorant, I've

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been a trustee of a renewable energy company since 1992, 22 years, and I've been an

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So I have a debate with anybody about the nonsense of climate emergency.

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There is no such thing.

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So the plastic straw, that's a good metaphor, Stephen, plastic straw and rhino formic.

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Alexander, let's go.

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We're all ears for as long as you wish to speak to us.

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And we love GA. Well, you know what we love.

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I know exactly what you love.

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A lot, lots of things to say.

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Firstly, talking about free speech, talking about freedom.

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I think I just wanted to say a few things about myself, which I haven't mentioned,

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which wasn't in that bio.

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Briefly, we were talking about freedom.

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The reason I came to London in 1968 was because there was a military coup in my country.

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That's the same Greece in 1967.

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My parents were opposed to the military government.

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They were out of the country.

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I was not.

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I was six and I was placed in detention, house arrest for one and a half years.

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So when that starts, when that starts in your life, you begin to think about lots of things.

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You worry about freedom, obviously, liberty.

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You can't leave your home.

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You can't go to see movies.

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You can't walk with your family out in a park.

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You can't do those kind of things.

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So that makes you think about freedom.

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It also makes you think about issues of power and due process and all of those things,

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because, of course, dictatorships can be very arbitrary things.

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When I came to Britain in 1968 as a child of seven, it was quite extraordinary to experience

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suddenly the extraordinary access of freedom that I found in England at that time.

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over the last 30 years, with every single year that passes, with every single month

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that passes, you see that freedom gradually whittle away.

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It's not as bad as I remember it being in Greece when I was a child.

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We're not in a dictatorship yet, but it is becoming more like one all the time.

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And also, obviously, dictatorships do not like free speech.

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That is a given.

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But dictatorships get offended by free speech.

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people will say things that are offensive, but that is a function of free speech.

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was the ability to say things that other people will find offensive.

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Now, that has been challenged.

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It's challenged every day.

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It's challenged by the mayor of London, Mr. Sadiq Khan, who says that the purpose

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of speech is to ensure that people are comfortable.

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Comfortable being, of course, the opposite of being offended.

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So if you say things that might offend people, you're making them uncomfortable.

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And that is wrong, or so we're told.

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And increasingly, it is the target of, if you like, the new law.

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shifted over the last 30 years.

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I just want to speak about this too.

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And that is that there was an incident, there was a violent incident involving a man who

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stabbed three children.

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That led to various protests.

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Not, I think, very big protests.

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There was a huge outcry orchestrated by the government itself.

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I can say quite certainly that there were very few riots, extremely little violence,

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probably no more violence over the course of the summer than one saw happen in Britain

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In Britain, we often get riots in the summer.

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But people were arrested.

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They were put through what you might call assembly line justice.

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Cases were decided within half an hour.

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People were sent to prison.

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Really quite astonishing things were done.

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And now we get increasingly people prosecuted for what they put up on social media.

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Inconsequential, unimportant things.

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But they get attacked for it all the time.

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After the events of the so-called pandemic, the restrictions that took place then, which

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were, of course, also ferociously opposed.

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in Britain.

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It is a country which prides itself on having been a pioneer in free speech.

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But no more or so it seems to me.

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So that is what I wanted to say.

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Excellent, Alexander.

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So Alexander, I have not had a chance to speak to you, but I would have asked you whether

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you wanted to make a presentation or whether you wanted to take questions from the press

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or from the press.

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I have just made a small presentation, but I can, I mean, if people want to ask me questions,

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I am very happy to, both from you and from everyone else, about the situation in Britain,

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about how changes have happened, about the situation in the world.

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I should say, this is perhaps a presentation, but we are in a period of extraordinary change.

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And I think that is what we are going to be doing in the future.

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Perhaps a presentation, but we are in a period of extraordinary change.

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Alexander, I have got a question now, which I will forget if I do not ask now.

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And that is, do you think that what happened in 2020, i.e. global coup d'etat, was necessary,

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was absolutely necessary for the Southport incident which you talked about, you know,

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the killing of three children and the subsequent riots which were not riots,

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and the cancelling of free speech and the cancelling of justice.

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Do you think that would have been, would it have been possible for that to happen

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without what happened in 2020, i.e. the lockdowns and the isolation of human beings?

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I think that events, the lockdown, the isolation of human beings was part of a trend

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that had already begun before. And I think that is an important thing to say.

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Restrictions on social media, for example, were already being imposed.

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Restrictions on protests. There was a major turning point in the late 1990s,

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at the time when the Blair government started to introduce various restrictions.

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But there is no doubt whatsoever that the events of 2020 were a huge step forward in that process.

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And we have never been the same country since that we were before.

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I mean, it has been a dramatic shift, and a dramatic shift towards government and governmental power,

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and it also showed to government that they could impose restrictions of that nature,

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and they could do it, that there would be minimal process if they did it.

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So, Alexander, have you worked out why it is that there has been such a dramatic change in the UK,

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in particular? And are you aware of the significance of isolating human beings?

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So I'm a doctor, you're not, I don't think. But I, we were taught this at medical school,

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you must not isolate human beings. It's extremely dangerous.

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So we were lucky to have a professor who could talk about that, but he talked about

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isolation in prisons, and then they decided to isolate human beings all around the world,

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in every country just about. And I could see, it took me a while to realise it, but

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I was really exercised about the injections. But actually, I think now that

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it was the isolation of human beings and the breaking of habits, because human beings are very,

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how shall I say, they're very in love with their own habits, and they don't change them easily.

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But when they have a break of, say, even a month, that's enough to break their habits

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of a lifetime, and they can't get back, they can't find themselves. I just wonder what you think

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about the, you know, had you appreciated the importance of isolating human beings?

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And was it a deliberate strategy on behalf of all these governments?

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Well, it was a deliberate, I think it was a, I think it was a deliberate strategy. I don't mean

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that every single official of the governments were, you know, united behind it, or every single

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minister was. But certainly, I do think that there was an agenda being played out during that time,

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and the machinery, the mechanics of it had already been prepared for some time. And I have no doubt

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of this at all. I mean, the fact that it was done, that it was unrolled so fast, so quickly,

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in so many places, it's not something that is improvised at the last moment or happens

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spontaneously. By the way, if you've worked as I did for 12 years in all courts of justice,

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you've seen that when things like that do happen, people do discuss them in advance. There is

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planning and discussion and that kind of thing. I've been surprised repeatedly to find that things

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which happen not only are planned in advance, but they're discussed quite openly in advance.

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I've seen that many times. Now about isolation. Remember, I'm Greek. I was brought up in a very

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old fashioned way. I remember being taught that Aristotle said that humanity, that people are

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social animals. That is the nature of us, that we are social animals. In Greece, again,

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and I'm talking about, you know, by heritage, we have this concept of polytheia. Polytheia,

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which of course evolves into politics, is a much, much more social thing than this. It involves

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the bringing together of the community. It isn't just about politics. It is about life.

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It is about absolutely everything that goes to make us human. It is part of the nature of humanity

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that we are in interacting constantly with each other. So if you do take that away,

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you break down humanity. And that is exactly what happened or what was attempted.

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Oh, thank you so much for that. I think maybe your... Sorry, go on, Charles.

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Steve, I'm thinking so people, you know, you can ask questions, but it might be rather go for 15

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minutes. People might put their hands up so that we have a flowing conversation, Steven.

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Jerry can do it, yeah, and take the pressure off me.

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Correct. Jerry. Let's go, Jerry. Jerry, Sebastian, I have some questions for Alexander as well. So

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let's do it that way. Hello, Alexander. Maybe I'll put on my camera so you've got some sort of

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idea who I am. Hey, everybody, I'm so excited. I'm going to be in Dublin with Jerry on the 26th and

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27th of February. And you're going to be one very, very intoxicated man, I can assure you.

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Honestly, you're going to have one hell of a hangover when I'm finished pouring Guinness into you.

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Alexander, I just want to say to you a number of things I want to say. Number one, I've watched you

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and Alex over the last three or four years. And you look so familiar to me. You're like my brother.

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You know, I'm looking at you and I think this guy is so familiar, his voice, every movement,

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every I know so much about you. And I remember when I used to see the pram there behind you.

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Yeah, well, I remember the use of a pram sat there behind you. What have you got? Twins?

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Do you have twins? I had twins and then I had a third child. So we've got three children.

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All girls. You really got the hang of it, haven't you? Absolutely.

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How old are they now? What age are they? Well, the twins are three. The third child is now 18 months.

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Is that right? Yeah. It really is fabulous. I tell you, Alexander, it's when you get to

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be a grandfather, you really appreciate your children. You know, no, I just want to say to you,

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first of all, your expertise in Ukraine is absolutely fabulous. I don't understand how

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you get so much work and you must have a lot of information coming into the background because

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you are without a doubt a world or the world expert on what's going on over there. Partly,

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you know, I can say that with a degree of certainty in that I've watched you

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since the beginning of the war. You've been right all along.

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Well, that's nice to be told. I have an awful lot of help from many, many people

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over the period of time that this conflict has worked out. All sorts of people and I can't

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unfortunately talk about all of them, who they are. But people from Britain, from Germany,

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from the United States have come, all kinds of people with all kinds of levels of expertise.

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And of course, I've had longstanding connections with Russia. I should say I'm not a Russianist

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myself. My wife is. She speaks Russian. She's not Russian. She speaks Russian, but she knows the

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universities in Russia. She knows the academic world. And through those contacts, I've had a

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sort of shape understanding of Russian opinion. And of course, I've learnt to understand the Russian

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political language, which is not the same as the political language in the West. So when you

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understand Russia, you understand Ukraine, because the two are still so connected to each other in so

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many ways that it does help you to, if you understand the one, you begin to understand the

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other. Yeah, that's I've been surprised at your pronunciation of the, like, how you get your tongue

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around the names of those towns that have been taken, week or day in, day out, truly remarkable.

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I often wondered, you know, we actually pronouncing them right, you know, I suppose your wife would

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obviously know that your pronunciation was right. And the other thing I've noticed over the years

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is that you very carefully skirted around COVID, which is probably wise for you in a sense. You

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stayed out of that area. So perhaps I'll introduce myself. I'm Dr. Gerry Waters from Ireland,

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a Selberge in Ireland. And five years ago, I recognised that there was no virus as such in

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my community, whatever about any other community, that was worthy of the lockdowns to facing,

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the masks, the social distancing. There was no virus there. There was nothing there. There was

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no need. There's no requirement for special drugs, no requirement for any of that. And I said so.

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In so doing, I incurred the wrath of the Irish Medical Council. And when they introduced the

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vaccine, I refused to administer the vaccine. I was suspended from the Irish Medical Register

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in March of 2021 and have been suspended since. I'm in the process of going through

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a legal proceedings with the Medical Council. And it kind of looks like they're going to just drop

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the case after four years of me being punished. So the reason I'm telling you this, Alexander,

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is that I'm as close an expert as you can get to actually what happened. Because the reality of

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epidemiologists and virologists and experts in anything, they all go on the GP's diagnosis.

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And the whole point, the whole crux of the COVID hoax was the deaths, the actual number of people

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dying. Nobody but nobody died from COVID per se. Take it from me for somebody who spent 40 years

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on the cold, at the cold face of general practice. Pretty much nobody died from COVID. And we were

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told to do as a three card trick of a certification. We were told to put down COVID as a cause of death

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based on the PCR test, which in effect was a con and a hoax. The inventor of the PCR test

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told us not to use it as a screening test. And we went on and not only did we use it as a screening

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test, I mean, we, I mean, the profession went on and used it, cycled 20 times more. And each time

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you cycle those things, you double the number of particles found. So what I'm saying to you is,

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you know, as I say, I'm about as close as an expert as you can get to the pathogenicity of the virus.

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And, you know, I say, I'm telling you this because I know over the last four years, you've been

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listening to you. And I think, I wonder what does Alexander really think about this? But in his

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wisdom, he decided to stay out of it. Well, can I just say straightforwardly,

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goes straight back to the issue of free speech, because there is no free speech on this issue.

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There is still no free speech on this issue. If you have listened to my programs as carefully

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as I'm sure you have, you will have noticed that there are many moments when I discuss

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political events completely unrelated to the COVID issue. And I say, I am now choosing my words

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carefully. And I have to do this all the time. One of the most exhausting and troubling things

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is that I'm constantly having to second guess what the sensors, because they do exist. They may be

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sensors in the form of a machine, the so-called algorithm, but behind the algorithm, there are

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people, what they will permit you and what they won't. Now, that puts you in a very, very difficult

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position. Do you discuss something? Do you go straight out and talk about it? I am not a doctor,

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remember, I have no medical background. Perhaps on the COVID issue, what I say does not carry much

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authority. But do I go about it? Do I discuss it? Do I discuss all those medical things, and then

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get deplatformed? Because that's definitely what would have happened. Or do I skirt the issue

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and avoid doing so and discuss other things, which I feel I need to discuss?

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Well, it is a terrible position to be in. It is a shameful decision to be in. You will always have

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doubts about the choices you make. You will ask yourself, have you been a coward? Or have you

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done the right thing? We took the decision on the Duran that we would

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avoid getting too deeply into the subject, precisely in order to be deplatformed.

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It is as simple as that. That is the reality. I've been completely honest about this with you.

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That was the decision we had to make. And can I just say the free speech issue has not changed?

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We still are unsure what exactly we can say about COVID on YouTube. We are still unsure

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what we can say in any public forum about COVID. It is the pressure which you have experienced,

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obviously, as a doctor, which is on a completely different scale. And by the way, can I just say,

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what a terrible thing that was? And what a terrible indictment of the entire legal

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and medical culture of Ireland. It is that that should have been done to you. And this is

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particularly shameful in a country like Ireland with its particular history, which we all know.

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Well, the fact remains, as I said, that those pressures are still there. I hope that they're

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abating. I hope that we will now have proper investigations. I hope that now that Robert

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Kennedy looks like he's going to be health secretary in the United States, it's likely that he will be

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confirmed. I hope the proper investigations will be launched. I hope that people will look into

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exactly what did happen. I hope that people look into the whole question of the vaccines,

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which was a particularly disastrous thing. The vaccines have been a catastrophe, in my opinion.

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And I think that the public is now ready for it. But that's what I can say.

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I got to admit, you're dead right. You're perfectly right to stay quiet on that.

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No, I'm not perfectly. I am not perfectly right. No, I'm not. I cannot use the word perfectly

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right. It is impossible. Perfect is impossible words to use in this. You had to make a decision.

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As I said, we were, we decided on the Duran that we were performing a useful service discussing,

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talking about politics, talking about the geopolitical realities of the world. And

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we decided that we weren't going to risk our voice, losing our voice on that, in order to discuss a

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topic which we were not expert on. But to say that it was a perfect decision, or even the right

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decision, I'm not sure that it was. Just to say. But you're there. You're still there. We're still

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there. You're still there. And you're still telling us. And you're channeling information to us.

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You know, those of us who hope you should get it. Jerry, you missed the point. So he hasn't defeated

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the tyranny though, the COVID tyranny. That's what he means. But the same token, there are some

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of us still out there fighting. And I do believe that Aleksandra and Alex have added so much to the

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overall knowledge of what's going on in the Ukraine that they were right. I'll stick to the idea.

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You're perfectly right to stick to your knowledge. Can I say something about the

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Ukraine conflict? Because of course, there is a connection with COVID again, which is lies.

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Lies told about COVID. Lies told about Ukraine. Lies told about the whole geopolitical issue.

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Now, we were able on the Duran to expose many of the lies that were told about Ukraine,

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about the conflict in Ukraine, about the entire way in which certain policies were being conducted.

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Now, the people who were telling those lies, the lies about the politics, about the policy,

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are the same people who were telling the lies about COVID. Not maybe exactly the same people,

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but they come from the same stable. Consider the fact that Dr. Fauci has now been pardoned

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by the very same president who was himself involved so deeply in the conflict in Ukraine.

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We can expose some lies on certain issues. We can't expose all lies on all issues. Everybody has a

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part to play. But of course, if you undermine lies in one area, then that perhaps, well,

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one wants to believe, I'm not sure how far I do believe, but it does make people more skeptical

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about some of the things that they're told, more questioning of the lies that they're told about

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other issues. It is a fact, and I can say this absolutely, that if you are looking at the people

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who were most skeptical about the narratives that were spun over the war in Ukraine, you will find

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that they are the same people who came to be most skeptical about the lies that were told about COVID.

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But we can't leave out global climate change. As I often say, I ran in two elections,

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a European election and a general election here in Ireland recently, and I tried to take on the greens.

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Any situation, I had no aspirations to be a politician. I wouldn't make a good politician

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because I'm just not a nice enough person. I attacked them every time on the anthropogenic

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global climate change, primarily because when I was in university in the 70s, when you were a child,

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they were telling us about global cooling, that we were expecting glaciers down to the

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Empire State Building and right down into New York and that. And then after seven or eight years of

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this, of my knowledge of it, they turned around and they told us, no, no, no, it wasn't going to be

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global cooling, it's going to be global warming. And Michael Mann came along with his hockey stick,

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which of course has now proven to be totally, absolutely, completely false on the basis of the

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tree rings that he used. So what I'm saying to you is these exact same people had in my lifetime,

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my scientific lifetime, the global cooling, global warming and then climate change.

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And again, as you say, it's all about the lies. And I will claim that each of us have to fight

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our area of expertise. And how can I say as a medical doctor that I can fight

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having expertise in climate change, primarily because I did chemistry in the early 70s

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and I followed through the chemistry of climate change since.

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I think you're dead right in avoiding those areas.

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Well, can I say on climate change, actually, I have personally spoken out against the issue

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of climate change in several formats and several values. Maybe not so much on the Durand because

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people don't look to it there. But I actually have some background in this. And I'll tell you what

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it is. It's just chance. But, you know, when I was a student in the 1970s, as one does, one

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goes and looks and reads some unusual literature. And there was a shop very near my university,

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a very good shop where they used to sell Soviet publications in English. And I bought one,

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which is a magazine called Sputnik, which the Soviets used to pump out all the time.

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And I found there and I still got that copy of that magazine somewhere. I found there an article

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by a Soviet scientist which discussed climate change. This was in 1978. And I could tell you

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for an absolute fact, I've still got that article somewhere and I've pointed it out and I've read

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it out in several places. Every single thing you hear about climate change, every point that's made

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about carbon, about whatever, it's there in that article. It's exactly there. And of course,

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it predicts it gives a timeline, which of course is completely wrong. Because remember, this was

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written in the late 1970s. But I think that scientist who wrote that article was writing

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in good faith. Climate science was very much in its infancy then. He didn't quite know.

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And I've read about him elsewhere. I think he was a genuine scientist. He got it wrong.

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But somewhere, somehow, somebody picked this all up. And you know, when I say this particular

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Russian scientist, there were others. Somebody picked it up and ran with the story. And a cult

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was developed out of it. Because that's what climate change is. It's a cult.

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Well, there's a lot of money behind it, remember. There's a huge amount of money.

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Net zero. There's billions depending on the net zero concept. So it is a cult, but it's a highly

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paying cult. But so was Covid. So was the vaccine. So is Ukraine. Always there is money behind

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anything. Covid was more than that. I do believe that there was a Malthusian element of Covid.

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You know, the Malthus idea of reducing populations and that. I'm firmly convinced with my medical

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background. Just to say, I think there is a deeply misanthropic aspect to the whole

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climate change thing. Human beings are wrecking the climate. We are destroying nature. We are

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seen as destroying nature. We must be combated and resisted. We can't use plastic straws or

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anything of that kind. I mean, there is a. It is very much there. So yes, I absolutely agree

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about Covid. There is a there was a Malthusian quality to it and very much a controlling

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quality. But there is a bit there is misanthropy about the whole environmental movement.

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Human beings are seen as a problem. Yes, they, you know, they create, they disrupt the climate.

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They litter the environment. They must be kept away from the open spaces. They can't be allowed

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to build houses or cut down trees or do any of those things. Unfortunately, there is an element

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of truth in it that we do. We do tend to be rather distrusting. Well, of course, I'm not saying and

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Charles, I was hearing was somebody who's run an organic farm and I'm not against these things.

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All I'm saying is that when it's taken to the level of fanaticism, which it is with some people,

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it has a particularly. We're not going to shame Charles. We're not going to manage to shame Charles.

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No, I'm all in favour of organic things. I go for bio organic lines, you know, the bio organic

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lines for example. I prefer organic. Anyway, I've rung as much as I can out of Alexander.

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I'm going to you're going to have to go if I left if I've left any information in his brain at all,

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somebody's going to have to ring it out of them. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Well

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done. Well done, Jerry and well done on your on your fight. And I'm training to be able to drink

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more Guinness. So I mean, I'm in training, Stephen. Okay, thank you, Jerry. Good. Sebastian.

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Alexander, one of the things I've realised in the last five years, it took me a while to realise it.

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So it's interesting that we've never spoken, you and I, but you have and I haven't watched your

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videos either apart from the one I saw recently, which led to me asking whether we could have you

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as a guest. And but it seems to me that that you so you're talking about cults, and we have this

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platform here or whatever you want to call this group. And we've had twice weekly meetings for

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three and a half years or whatever, religiously almost. So you could argue we've got a cult too.

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But one of the things that I've come to realise is that human beings have been amazingly disappointing

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in my eyes since 2020. It took 2020 to make me realise it. But also they have a dangerous

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predilection for deadly cults. Oh, this is absolutely true. And it has always been true

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at all times throughout history. People have come together and believed in cults and other

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irrational things. I am not someone who despairs of humanity in general. I think that over time,

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you always see things like that starts to come up against objections and resistance

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and opposition. And eventually, the sort of contrary wave comes and people go back and they

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look back and they say, Is it really possible that we believed all those things? Is it really

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possible that we were fed all these stories that we accepted them? It's true. So, you know, I

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understand. I understand the point. Human beings are, well, we are what we are. We have a capacity

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to believe, to accept authority, to accept what we are told is learned authority. This is one of the

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great things about COVID and indeed about climate science, which we were talking about, is that,

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of course, the people who promote these things come with tremendous trappings of knowledge and

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scholarship and, you know, prestige because they have all kinds of important positions.

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And they tell us that they're experts about these things. And most of us, because we're not experts,

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and we are modest about our own knowledge, we are very inclined to believe that. But in time,

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as I said, humanity, I think, figures it out. That is my own view. And by the way,

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can I just quickly say, whatever you are, whatever this group is, it's absolutely not a cult.

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A cult, by definition, is not an organization. It's not a group of people who engage in dialogue

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discussion and criticism and who are prepared to say offensive things.

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Okay, Alexander, that is not what cults do.

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Here's the question for you. Have you looked up the etymology of the word cult?

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No, I have not. I'll be interested.

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It comes from the word to cultivate. Okay, so it's people who nurture, support, cultivate. So,

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you know, it's it's a, but then it's been hijacked, of course, the meaning of it. But that

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was his origins.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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Interesting.

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Okay, Sebastian, come on. Grill Alexander. I've got lots of questions for him as well,

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Stephen. So don't worry, I've got I've got sticks to make.

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We've got people who know about totalitarianism, not least Yevgeny Legedin, who's also an expert

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on the classics in world literature. He spoke for four hours on one of our meetings about books.

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And so I encourage all the people who are on now to ask questions. Sometimes they get a bit shy,

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Alexander. Maybe it's your British accent.

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They're not shy. Come on, Sebastian.

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Good evening, Alexander, and great to see you again.

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Great to see you.

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We actually just finished a two hour live stream with Aaron Matty, and here we are again.

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I just like to follow up on Jerry's on Jerry's comments a while ago, that, you know, Alexander

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and Alex did not follow up on COVID. We actually did, but we did not do it on YouTube because of

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reasons of the logarithms. But we did have Dr. Thomas Binger as well as Dr. Peter McCullar on

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Rumble, as well as on Locals.com, where we are primarily doing the work. And so they tried,

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we tried to circumvent YouTube. And when it comes to expertise, and the word has fallen quite a

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few times, Alexander always started off his, you know, when this Ukraine thing started,

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the SNO started. I'm not a military expert. I do remember that so very well. But he has actually,

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he was very, very interested in the whole topic of what was happening in Ukraine, what was happening

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all around the world, not only Ukraine, because there are multiple conflict zones in the world.

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And the knowledge that he has gained over the years, even because I was or am a military

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person, I had to tip my hat off to Alexander because he was a very, very, very, very, very

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I'm a military person. I had to tip my hat off to Alexander because he has seen things and

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predicted outcomes. And Alex as well, because both of them are the Durand, they work as a team.

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And these things have actually come through. And his knowledge towards the Russian diplomacy,

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the language, exceptional. And really, that is the coming back to the expertise, Jerry,

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it is a matter of fighting the war, but choosing your battles correctly and carefully.

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And that's what we're all doing. I mean, it's here, the international doctors, we call it ethics.

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It's the Durand for geopolitics. Everyone is fighting the battle that they can fight

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and trying to win it. But Alexander, I would like to ask you, don't you find it paradox,

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maybe even cynical that we in the free world, which we know as the West, that we live in,

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that we're slowly, this freedom is slowly dying out while simultaneously, we have the eastern world,

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which used to be dictated by communism. They were subjugated by the communists, that they are

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actually heroine, the old values of faith, freedom of speech, humanity, family, religion,

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everything that West had, we're losing while the communist, ex communist states are losing.

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Where do you think this is going to end? And do you see any hope for the rest of the Western

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world to regain these old values? These are enormous questions, if I could say.

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But why have the eastern states, why people have the people in the east held on to these things

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more? Because I think they have done, by the way, I mean, if you follow Russian debate, it is actually

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surprisingly open, much more so in some respects than it is in the West. Well, I'm going to suggest

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partly it is because they have experienced totalitarianism, and they're more sensitive

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to what it is than maybe we are. And they are perhaps more sensitive to the misuse of language

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than we are. There was, in Soviet times, there was this expression that you, that officials, that

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politicians use what was called is opium language from ESOP, by the way, in other words,

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languages is always elusive and elliptical. And this is something that the Russians have known

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about. And it makes them particularly not just sensitive to it, but on their guard against it,

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in a way that we are we perhaps are not. And of course, it also means, and this is an important

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difference in speech, particularly when people talk about politics, I don't just mean politicians,

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I mean, people at every level of society, is that when Russians talk about politics, they don't talk

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in cliches. Whereas in the West, to a great extent, now we do talk in cliches, when we talk about

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politics. And that is an important difference, because of course, cliches are stultifying.

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They are a shortcut to avoid thinking about things. And they mean that language is not

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straightforward. I'm going to say something further, that if you're talking about Russia,

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and you're familiar with Russian literature, there has always been a certain tendency in Russia

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towards being straightforward, towards straightforward speech. And with the end

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of the Soviet period, this is this appears to be coming back.

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And maybe maybe just another follow up on the science. You know, we were subjugated,

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it started with the COVID. And of course, it was follow the science and the hubris of one particular

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person, who we all know quite well, Anthony Fauci, you know, I am the science. I think that is one of

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the reasons why I actually joined this group also, because we have all the experts here. And you can

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connect, you can literally connect. We just recently had Richard Jeffs on here on this group.

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And he connected all of this pretty much, the different wars, Charles always says, he didn't

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say this evening, strangely enough, Charles, that we're fighting a war with seven different,

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I think it's seven different battlefields. Well, I did say it. Well, that was different.

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And one of those battlefields is geopolitics, or one of them is medicine. And the other one is

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fascism, of course. And Jeff, Richard, Richard Jeffs puts it very, very well, he connected it

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all to the secret societies. Now, with WEF is one of them, the World Economic Forum, we see the

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moving this, you know, this tentacle, this, this, I don't even want to call it an octopus, because

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octopus only has eight arms. This is much, much larger than that. But maybe Charles would like to

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even expound on that, you know, what these 12 different battlefields are. Well, I'd be very,

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very interested to hear. I'll get to quickly before Charles, if Charles does want to speak,

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I just get to say quickly, very, very quickly, that I absolutely do think there's been a change

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in the world in the West, since as I said, that I remember, which is that suddenly one does sense

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that an awful lot of things are going on, which one doesn't know about, that an awful lot of

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decisions are made that are not being discussed, that things happen, which don't just happen,

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somebody's obviously made the decisions about them. Now, that wasn't true. And I don't think

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I'm idealizing, but it wasn't true, you know, before. And it's, it's been developing and

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accelerating in ways that I'm not going to pretend I fully understand. But anyway,

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if you want to say something, Charles, if you want to, I do. So thank you. Thank you, Sebastian. Yes,

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I call this, you know, World War Three, what is this World War Three, or many people have come to

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this group out of Canada, that World War Two is ongoing, you know, the Nazis never surrendered.

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And that so this could be World War Three, or ongoing World War Two. And I call this the war

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against government overreach and one, and the one world government agenda. So that's the war. So

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what what have we identified as the war? And the 12 battlefronts, I have them in four groups of three

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in priority order. And as you listen to these just quickly, I'll just I'm not going to expand on I'll

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just run through them. But you said something, Alexander, Sebastian, you as well, Stephen,

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remember, we've talked about this, each one of us, when you go to a war, a real normal war,

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you can't fight every battlefront, you make a decision, you get posted somewhere, or you go,

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hey, I want to do this bit. In fact, I was watching a, I was watching a film, you know,

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like boxes become sergeants to become drill sergeants to train new recruits into a building

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army. So the question for each one of us is, what role are you going to play? Now, you can be on one

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of these battlefronts. But there are also people who need to be in the background doing fundraising,

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doing developing resources, it capabilities. And think about a war, there are people who are

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here handling the logistics of food, of feeding the troops. That's a crucial element in a war. So

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the 12 legal case, the top three legal cases, harnessing the power of the people to fight back

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against government, and then the information battle to get the truth to the people. They're

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the first three. The next three battlefronts are politically influencing existing parties,

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we're all part of that. Number five, creating new political parties. Number six, the spiritual

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battle that we're in, which is the battle of good and evil. Right? So that's, that's a big element

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of this. Number seven, scientific medical debates. This is, you know, that's such a distraction. I

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I give it as an example of having a debate on the quality of the deck chairs, sorry,

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the quality of the timber of the deck chairs on the Titanic. While the Titanic's going down,

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we're having a bullshit debate about a virus. So number seven is the scientific medical debate.

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Number eight is in business, Alexander, you and I as lawyers, restore the checks and balances in

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existing constitutional systems, we don't need to tear down all existing systems. From 1215,

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the Magna Carta came, you know, we've got buddy, 800 plus years of, of experience. Number nine,

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opposing the new world order agenda and the great reset. Number 10, proper, fair and lawful global

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financial system. Number 11, opposing any social credit system. And number 12, opposing the human

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augmentation agenda, particularly of Singularity University. So those 12. And then it helps me

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keep a framework. And so that people come sometimes come on this course and say, we're

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not doing anything. There's amazing work being at Dave Colum, who's going to ask a question in a

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moment. The work that he does is extraordinary and sharing a whole new way of looking at,

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at life. You know, that's what he's doing. And then Anders, he's going to talk about him and Mark

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Steele, they're talking about a deep understanding of 5g and electromagnetic frequencies. So the one

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question, so they're the 12 battlefronts, I'll happily send those, I'll post them here so that

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it helps us to understand. Now, the question I have for you before we go to Dave,

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my father was Hungarian, my parents were Hungarian. And, and I'm in organic farming,

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not because I need to save the planet, but because I need to save me. In other words, I knew from

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1965, when I went to my first naturopath, and there are naturopaths on this call,

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that, that the medical system is literally fucked. I knew that in 1965, I went to this naturopath,

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I don't have a doctor, I'm 72. I don't, I've never been to a hospital for ill health, because I knew

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what I ate created my body. There's another saying, I've said, it's said that you are what you eat.

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That's partly true. It's more accurate to say you are what you don't eliminate. And most people are

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literally full of shit. That's why they're unhealthy. Now, quality food is like, I can't

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stress enough, Stephen, you know, the community, we should be promoting every meeting here, get

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your food supplies in place. Jerry, get your Dublin flute, the Irish food supplies, have secret ways

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that you can survive for a year without the system. Now, one question, the Ukraine, my dad,

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always said to me that the Ukraine land is so fecund, one of my favorite words in the English

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language, that literally, the Ukraine could feed 8 billion people alone. What's your information on

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the quality of the soil of the Ukraine? I cannot, I cannot, I cannot give a number, but that it is

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extremely fertile, that it is extremely fecund is absolutely true. It was not particularly,

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well managed in the past, but potentially, if it was, and it could be, then it would be,

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it would be exactly as you said, it is, it's the so called Black Earth zones are enormously important

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in potential agricultural terms. And this is undoubtedly a major aspect of the conflict,

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because it's seen by some people, you know, the Black Earth zones have been seen by some people as

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an important asset, which people are fighting over. We've heard an awful lot about the mineral

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worth, wealth of Ukraine, which is probably overstated, by the way, the agricultural,

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potential agricultural wealth of Ukraine is not. By the way, this has a very, very long history.

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Again, I'm an Athenian, just to say in ancient Athens, Athens imported its food from what is

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now Ukraine. The grain ships came to Greece to Athens from Ukraine. And the way we in which

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Athens lost its war with Sparta was that the Spartans were able to blockade the ships and

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prevent the food from Ukraine, what is what we now call Ukraine reaching Athens. So this is a very,

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it's got a very, very long history. I should say that the Black Earth area is in the south of Ukraine.

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It's been the most bitterly fought over area. And more and more of it is passing under Russian control.

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Thank you. That's the most helpful and I will spend some, you know, being provoked to ask this

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question reminds me I'll spend some more time understanding that. But that's a beautiful example.

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Beware of the resources that God gives you because there'll be lots of fighting over it. Now talking

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about Sparta before we go to Dave Colum, Jerry, my favorite form of poetry is limericks. And I'm

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forced, Stephen, to burst into poetry. Since Alexander mentioned Spartan and it goes like this,

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there once was a fellow from Sparta who was a really magnificent fatter on the strength of

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one being he could fart God save the Queen and Beethoven's moonlight sonata. He could vary with

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proper persuasion his fart to suit any occasion. He could fart like a fluke, like fart like a flute,

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like a lark, like a lute, this highly far-tistic Caucasian. And it goes off another 13 verses that

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I could recite for you here by memory, but I won't. But anyway, thank you for the reference to

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Sparta. Thank you very much, Charles. And you won't recite them to us, Charles, because of your

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perceived respect for our sensibilities. That's right. I don't want to offend anybody. Respect

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for our perceived. Yes, no doubt we'll hear them all in Dublin in a couple of weeks. Wonderful.

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Yeah. All right. Dave Colum, what's what's what I asked you this question. What's the origin of

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Colum? Scottish, I think. I think it lost a mick. I think it lost the mick along the way.

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So I think we're probably from the Highlands somewhere. That's my guess. I actually trace

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my roots back through 23andMe to an inbred tribe in the Neander Valley.

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So Alexander, Dave is a professor of chemistry at the Library League University. So if you've got

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anything that's mystified you since you were at school about chemistry, you can ask him now.

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Well, I can. I mean, I should say that chemistry was appallingly badly taught at my school.

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We were given a lesson in the periodic table at about the age of 11, and then we were put

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in front of bunsen burners and we were doing all kinds of things, experiments, which were

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completely meaningless. So theoretical knowledge of chemistry was never provided. And that meant

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that the framework of how to understand chemistry was never there. By the way, I just wanted to say

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something about experts if people don't mind. I've come to have an opinion about experts,

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which is that experts, real experts, are not afraid of debate. It comes back to free speech issues.

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If somebody who calls him or herself an expert is trying to suppress views alternative to themselves,

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then they are not experts.

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So there weren't many experts in the Covid times then?

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No, there were not. And that is something that was exposed. And it is a very, very,

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very disturbing fact because clearly the people who were dictating the policy and who were telling

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us that they were the experts, firstly, they were not experts, but they were in positions of

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extraordinary power. It hasn't been officially exposed, Alexander, and that's the problem,

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because we need to hold these people to account. But I think people kind of knew that what they

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were experiencing was wrong, but they couldn't put a finger on it as to what was wrong.

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They weren't well.

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Yes, okay.

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I think this is going to be one of the great challenges of the Trump administration, if I

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can say. I mean, a point has been made that, you know, you mustn't expect perfection from what the

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new administration has done. I think it's done an awful lot, actually, in three weeks' time, far

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more than I would have expected. But this will be one of its great tests. I mean, it really needs to

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actually open the files, open the doors, get us to understand what really happened and to hold those

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who did do those things to account properly.

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Absolutely. There are very few who do understand what happened, though, I find, Alexander. But I

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think the people who are most likely to get there are people like you, who have their minds constantly

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open, are willing to hear other ideas and to test and to talk to people, essentially. And that's how

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human beings solve their problems. And I think that things have to get worse, arguably, before

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they get better. And it's not all to do with logic. You know, we think we have to be incredibly

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logical. You said yourself, you'd observe changes, but you couldn't actually work out what the changes

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were. You couldn't actually see the red line or whatever. And I agree. I think that human beings

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have this amazing capacity to get together, work out what happened, don't actually have to articulate

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it, but they kind of feel it. And then they move together to make things better when they had become

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terrible, such as, well, for example, in the United States. So people are saying, oh, you know, the UK

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is finished and Australia is finished and New Zealand's finished and USA is OK now. But three

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weeks ago, they weren't OK. You know, America was lost for four years. And that was a source of great

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discomfort to me. Absolutely. To me, to me also, by the way. OK, let's keep moving.

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Dave, so our favourite chemistry teacher here, Alexander. By the way, one of Dave's salutary

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comments that he makes in his annual review is that someone said of Dave Colin that he could

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make a proctology exam lecture interesting. So there you are. And then proceeded to describe

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getting my prostate taken out. A couple of things. One is your description of chemistry. It hasn't

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changed. You described it to a T. The Ukraine story that you have spelled a lot of ink over,

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what's so strange about it to me is that the truth seems to be in plain sight in the sense that

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the written records there, I'm ultimately a pro-Putin guy at this point saying, look,

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he played the best hand he had at that point. NATO was the problem. And it didn't take a huge

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amount of work to figure that out. What caught my eye actually was the mention of the screep

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holes poisoning in the bio. And years ago, when that happened, I dug into that. And the first thing

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that I noticed was that the claim that it was uniquely Russian technology was the most

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outlandish claim on the planet. And so I went out on Twitter and said, they're lying.

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And next thing I knew, I was doing weekly George Galloway interviews and Al Jazeera.

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I've done a ton of Russian Today interviews. So they could call me anytime they want to yank

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to say something bad about something. But it turned out that the organic chemistry behind the

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screep hole nerve gas was so simple that I actually put it on an exam in my course and said,

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design a synthesis. And they all got full credit. The question I have for you is what the hell was

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that all about? My conclusion is that it probably came from port and downs. And it did not look like

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it came from the Russians. And people would say, well, if not the Russians, then who? And the

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answer is anyone on the planet who wanted to make it look like it came from the Russians.

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So what's your take on that? Well, I think that's probably right. I mean, the difficulty with the

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script case is that that was a corrupted investigation from the very first moment.

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The then Prime Minister, Theresa May, got up in the House of Commons. This is almost as soon as

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the script was found unwell. This is before any proper investigation had been launched.

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And she said, it is highly likely, those are the famous words, that the Russian government,

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that the Russian authorities were involved. Now, I mean, when I worked in the Royal Courts of

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Justice, I've had dealings with the police. I know how the police work. I know how senior

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police officers work. The Prime Minister comes up and says that in the House of Commons on the basis

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of so-called intelligence information, which, of course, we've never seen. The police are going

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to take that as a steer, and that's going to shape their entire investigation from that moment

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going forward. And that was precisely what happened. Every part of the investigation was clearly

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took place with the objective of reaching what was already a pre-decided outcome.

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So in that kind of spirit, you can't assume that anything is true. And there hasn't been

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actual investigation of the Skripal case. It's not being conducted. I mean, I know about it. By the

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way, one thing I do know about is investigations. I used to have to review many, many investigations

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when I was at the High Court. You can't say that there's been an investigation. You can't say that

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the real leads that exist have been followed through. You don't know how this event came about.

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You don't even know exactly what did actually happen. What was the events that took place?

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And by the way, what you've said about the fact that, you know, was it Novichok,

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you know, that this is not a unique Russian technology. There was an earlier case,

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the Litvinenko case, which was a man who was poisoned with polonium. And again, it's not

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widely known, but during the public inquiry that was set up to the absolute dismay and astonishment

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of the judge who was chairing the inquiry, the government's expert witness came forward and said,

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no, it's not true that polonium, whatever it was, which is the chemical that was used against

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Litvinenko, that that only originates in Russia. Nor is it particularly difficult to find, nor is

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it particularly expensive. It could have been produced in Britain. That's what she said.

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And you could, if you read the inquiry reports, you could almost see, you know, the judges,

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because the judge again had a preconceived idea of where the investigation was going.

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You could almost see his jaw drop. And he mentioned it in his final findings, his final findings,

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what the experts said, that he just ignored it and just went back and said, you know,

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because it's polonium, that must mean it was the Russian authorities that were involved.

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Because polonium, the polonium was the only real evidence that it was the Russians. And it's the

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same with the Scripils. The only real evidence that it's the Russians is the fact that it was

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supposed to be Norbichok. If you take that away, then the whole case that's constructed starts to

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look threadbare. Well, even Porton Downe, guys at the end said, said, no, it's not necessarily

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the Russians. The polonium one told me that the only thing you know for sure is it was probably

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a state actor, right? It wasn't just wasn't food poisoning from eating shellfish. Yeah. And that

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was, was that 2017ish? Was it about then? It was a bit earlier than that. It was a bit,

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but I think the inquiry was about that time. So the other thing is there's actually photographic

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evidence that the two Ruskies who supposedly did it, that the photos were frauds. And so the whole

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case fell apart. We're not very good at that stuff anymore. As Peter Thiel once said, and then

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when they failed to shoot Trump, he says, it's really pathetic. We can't even whack anyone anymore.

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So Dave and Alexander, what was the point, you know, from Britain's point of view, was that to

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kind of prime the public to be anti-Russian so that when the time came, they could unleash the

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Ukraine war? Which, again, this is where one just doesn't have the whole motivations. I mean, already

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speaking from Britain, already you could see that relations between Britain and Russia were

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deteriorating rapidly. What exactly made the British authorities so antagonistic to the Russians at

767
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that particular time? As I said, it's still not clear to me. There's so much going on, but certainly

768
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the whole Skripal affair did play a very important role in poisoning attitudes

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in Britain against Russia. Just like the Russian case.

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Was the intent in America to influence the UK, one of its allies, you know, to prepare for,

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I don't know, so I'm thinking of the North Stream pipeline explosions. We've got someone in this

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group called Professor Hans Benjamin Braun. Braun. Braun. He's a professor of theoretical

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physics and he did an investigation of his own into the North Stream pipeline explosions and

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concluded by 11 different ways that it was a thermonuclear explosion in the centre of Europe.

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And guess what? Germany didn't notice and neither did Sweden. Sweden had detected,

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they were the first in the world to detect, well partly because of where they were,

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the Chernobyl explosion, but they didn't tell the world about the thermonuclear explosion in

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the centre of Europe. And I think Hans Benjamin Braun was correct because he distributed all

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his evidence to the United Nations and to nations around the world. Nobody came back to him.

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No, of course not. As they wouldn't. Which of course, I mean, not even to say presumably

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that he's wrong. But if that did happen and it's happened in Truss's time in those three weeks,

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so was that the reason she was brought in as Prime Minister for three weeks?

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Let's keep moving. Lots of contemplation but great questions. Dave, are you done?

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Oh, you're muted, David. Yeah, he's okay. Righto. Now, the

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question I have from Dagmar, who's not feeling well, and Dagmar Alexander is a lawyer in Germany

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closely involved in the Ryan and Fulmi case. Her question is, before we get to Anders,

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do you see the possibility of the monarchy disappearing in England and Europe?

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She says, I see the monarchy as an important element of the collective Stockholm syndrome

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in Europe. I hope that Diana's sons would set this process in motion when they

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realized that their mother had been liquidated by the firm.

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The monarchy in Britain as an institution is very, very bound up with the whole structure of the

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British state. Bear in mind that we don't have a written document which we can call a constitution.

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We have all kinds of legal theories in Britain and conventions and structures, all of which

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ultimately originate with the monarchy. So, simply as an administrative act,

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doing away with the monarchy would be a challenge. I mean, it has been done before. It was done in

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the 1640s, but it would be a difficult thing to do. And I think that the inclination of the British

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establishment will be to cling on to it as much as they possibly can and for as long as they

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possibly can. One of the great changes that has happened in Britain in my lifetime is you have

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seen support for the monarchy amongst the people drain away. In the 1960s, when I came to Britain,

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the monarchy was an act, the monarch, the monarchy was an actively popular institution.

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I mean, people supported it. It was very much part of their sense of British identity. The Queen was

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very highly respected when it was her silver jubilee in 1977. It was massively celebrated

803
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by the people. Today, the monarchy is treated with indifference by most people. And you saw the

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difference in the coronation. So, if you go back and look at the film of the coronation in 1953,

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when the former Queen was crowned, you see that this was a huge national event involving the

806
1:19:27 --> 1:19:32
people of Britain. When you look at the coronation of her son, King Charles III,

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it passed by almost unnoticed. Hardly anybody really particularly cared. I think it's going

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to be very difficult to sustain the monarchy for all the enormous institutional problems

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in the event that there is that kind of indifference to it. Eventually, people will say,

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why do we need it? What is it for? So, I think probably it is quietly slipping away.

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And then what about Europe? The stock exchange? Do you think that's a good thing?

812
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I am not sure, to be honest. I'm going to say this. I think that the monarchy,

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as it used to be, was a part of the constitutional legal and cultural landscape

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of a Britain that I remembered and which I loved. I should say that. I mean, the Britain I came to

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was a country that I loved and felt very connected to. So, though I am not particularly, you know,

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royalist or anything of that kind, seeing the whole structure gradually come apart,

817
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I find it very unsettling and I do wonder what will come.

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So, Alexander, is that the intention to actually create that unsettling feeling,

819
1:20:59 --> 1:21:04
unsettled feeling in British people? Was that the intention? And in particular,

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I was a bit disturbed about the way that, you know, when the Queen was alive, she was much

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admired, you know, even in the latter years of her reign, people had nice things to say about it,

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if only because she'd been there for so long. You know, most people, in fact, almost all people in

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the UK in the end, had never known anything else, you know, as far as the monarch was concerned.

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And so, it just so happened that her son, Prince Charles III, or King Charles III, as he's known

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now, he was a very, very poor substitute for the Queen. And the Queen is never mentioned now.

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I've never had a monarch die in my lifetime before, so I don't know what, there's nothing to compare

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with. But it just seems very odd that she was much revered when she was alive. But now, nobody ever

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talks about her. Well, this is absolutely true. I mean, when Victoria died, and when King George

829
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V died, monarchs who had been popular and very revered in the country, the fact that, you know,

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their shadow lingered for a very long time, people remembered them and took them very seriously.

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I guess it's good to make an observation about the Queen. I think one of the great qualities that the

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Queen had was that she never changed. Even as Britain changed around her,

833
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the Queen herself did not. Charles, can you mute this guy, Deli, or whatever his name is?

834
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Yeah, keep going, keep going. Yes. And that meant that she remained, she was some sort of connection

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to the Britain of the past. And I think people valued that. And that partly explained the enormous

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respect and affection that people felt for her. There is nothing like that that's just passed over

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to the present King. And the fact that we don't talk about her, and that the British establishment

838
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is no longer interested in talking about her is perhaps a sign that they don't want us to think

839
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much about our past. So is this about taking people's identity away from them? Yeah, I think

840
1:23:27 --> 1:23:31
it is probably. Come on, let's keep, we've got lots of questions. Stephen, save that question up.

841
1:23:31 --> 1:23:35
That's, but you know, you're in the midst of it, Stephen, so I don't know whether we,

842
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leave that, leave that to the end. But it's an important question as lawyers, the constitutional

843
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framework for the UK. Yeah. You know, in same Australia, we don't have a, we don't have a

844
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constitution. Sorry, Australia has a constitution, but no Bill of Rights as such. Now, Anders,

845
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I've said, Stephen, I've said to Anders, he's got some great information that he should do a

846
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presentation due for another update, but he's going to keep this one short. And Anders, please,

847
1:24:03 --> 1:24:08
what he's been doing his research on will be useful for us to see, Stephen. So he'll be able to.

848
1:24:09 --> 1:24:15
So I saw in the chat that Anders had written that Robert O. Young, who's been a guest for us,

849
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he's just been sentenced to prison, but you didn't say how many years, Anders, you said for years,

850
1:24:21 --> 1:24:34
but wasn't. Yeah, so the details are that he was, it was a jury of 12, and it was three accounts,

851
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and he got convicted for all three. And let's say by technicality, a felony is from one year

852
1:24:46 --> 1:24:48
and above, and this is three felonies.

853
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So yeah, well, why are you talking so cryptically? Just tell us how long was the sentence?

854
1:24:57 --> 1:25:03
Well, the sentencing of how long is not, it's not done.

855
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Yes, he's been convicted, Stephen, of three felonies. Sentencing is not done.

856
1:25:11 --> 1:25:13
No, I'd like to know what he was found guilty of.

857
1:25:15 --> 1:25:20
I don't want to go into it, but let's say it's in the chat, the details.

858
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In the chat, there's an article, Stephen, someone's posted.

859
1:25:22 --> 1:25:24
Is it about COVID?

860
1:25:26 --> 1:25:30
It is about him claiming he's a medical doctor and that he's treated patients, and

861
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this is, let's say, yeah, not legal.

862
1:25:37 --> 1:25:40
Yeah, but he was outspoken during COVID times.

863
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Technically, it's not about that, but you know, we don't really know.

864
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Well, yeah, okay.

865
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Okay, yeah.

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1:25:52 --> 1:25:54
All right, Anders, your question.

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I have been working very closely with Robert, so just first of January this year, we finally

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published our, my research, which is written together with him, which is going into

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the combination of both the historic, let's say, EMR, electromagnetic radiation as a

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historical factor, as well as the historical vaccinations, about 130 years or so.

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So this was done, and I started a new study, which is into fertility,

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which I am now into, and I have done a lot of progress in that, and I've been really

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shocked to see that the fertility decrease is accelerating, becoming worse in 2024,

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while the excess mortality is slowing down.

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1:26:59 --> 1:27:08
So, and I can see the trend line, let's say the excess mortality started in 2020 prior

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to the JABs, and it was not going up a lot in 2021, but let's say with the third shot in 22,

877
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it accelerated. So there are two strong correlations to the increased amount of 5G

878
1:27:25 --> 1:27:33
radiation, as well as, let's say, the third shot, and it is a huge variation in the cities

879
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where you have high 5G.

880
1:27:35 --> 1:27:37
Anders, I don't want you to do your presentation now.

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Okay, so.

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So this is my finding, so this is huge, so to me, I just want to say that it looks like

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it's a much worse situation with the reduction in fertility than those who have been killed by the

884
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JAB so far.

885
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Hmm. I hear about this, about the problems with fertility. It is a much under discussed subject,

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in my opinion. You just get the odd article appearing from time to time talking about this,

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but people are not really talking about this or addressing it or discussing why it's happening,

888
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and there doesn't seem to be any real explanation that I'm aware of as to why it is happening.

889
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I can't say more.

890
1:28:21 --> 1:28:26
No, the explanation, the explanation, I'm not a medical doctor, I'm a kind of expert in

891
1:28:26 --> 1:28:35
computer analysis, but let's say what appears to be strong theories is that we know that this

892
1:28:36 --> 1:28:43
lipid nanoparticle with all the nanotech was going into the test and ovaries, that's a fact,

893
1:28:43 --> 1:28:52
it's measured. Second, the radiation goes to the same places and you are radiated with, let's say,

894
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high frequencies with high energy, higher energy in the big cities, so you are likely to have

895
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big problems with, let's say, the creation of new life because there will be a lot of DNA

896
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problems because of the radiation, high radiation.

897
1:29:10 --> 1:29:18
Mm-hmm. Well, again, I'm not sure that I can add very much to this. All I will say is this,

898
1:29:18 --> 1:29:27
this is clearly a big major issue. It is very under-reported to the point that one wonders why

899
1:29:27 --> 1:29:34
it is as under-reported as it is. You would have thought that this would be something that people

900
1:29:34 --> 1:29:38
would, that, you know, that authorities would be concerned about. They seem to be completely

901
1:29:38 --> 1:29:46
unconcerned about it. And that, you know, that in itself begs many questions as to why. But that's

902
1:29:46 --> 1:29:54
really all I can say. I mean, it's not, it's something I've heard about. I don't think I'm

903
1:29:54 --> 1:30:02
able to comment more about it than that. Okay, thank you, Anders. So Anders is going to do a

904
1:30:02 --> 1:30:07
presentation, everybody, because his research is wonderful and gives us useful tools and will be

905
1:30:07 --> 1:30:15
useful for the lawyers in cases to come. I'll remind everybody of the film called Witness

906
1:30:15 --> 1:30:21
Statement. I'll put the link in again that Gerry Brady has been part of putting together, which is

907
1:30:21 --> 1:30:26
designed to be spread all around the world. Some of you have already done so. And it is a two and

908
1:30:26 --> 1:30:32
a half hour documentary on evidence for police and investigative authorities for the decades to come

909
1:30:32 --> 1:30:39
about the evidence of what happened during the COVID attacks. Now, I wanted to share something

910
1:30:39 --> 1:30:46
with you before we go to Sebastian again. And I'm going to share my screen. Some of you remember

911
1:30:46 --> 1:30:57
what life was like in January 2020. And I've been a fan for some 12 years of John Rappapour.

912
1:30:57 --> 1:31:05
And this is what he shared for those is a wonderful, his substack is fantastic. But

913
1:31:06 --> 1:31:16
this is on the 10th. So this is this email that I got was on the 22nd of January 2020, everybody,

914
1:31:17 --> 1:31:23
is the new deadly China virus, a covert operation, new virus in China, watch out,

915
1:31:24 --> 1:31:29
new virus in China, watch out, spreading animals to humans, pandemic coming up, obey medical

916
1:31:29 --> 1:31:34
authorities, all hands on deck, centered in Wuhan, the city of 11 million. Will they quarantine and

917
1:31:34 --> 1:31:39
shut down Hong Kong? Travellers with the virus getting through to Europe and America? What's the

918
1:31:39 --> 1:31:46
name of the virus? 2019 in COVID-2 or in COVID-2? What? Thank God the Chinese are under a tight

919
1:31:46 --> 1:31:51
dictatorship. They can crack down and quarantine anybody on a whim. If your body temperature is

920
1:31:51 --> 1:31:57
elevated on the chest, they stop you? Wow, we may need that in the USA as long as they don't stop me.

921
1:31:57 --> 1:32:03
Impeachment? Forget that. It's the virus. There you are. In the 19 years of this website, the one

922
1:32:03 --> 1:32:08
story I've researched and covered more than any other is the deadly virus hustle, SARS,

923
1:32:08 --> 1:32:15
swine flu, Ebola. Now we have a new one. And on it goes. So it was interesting. I've collected all

924
1:32:15 --> 1:32:20
my emails from Rappapour. He's a wonderful investigative journalist. I recommend him

925
1:32:20 --> 1:32:24
for all of you to get his sub stack. But I'll just bring into your attention what was happening

926
1:32:25 --> 1:32:30
then. Do we know which state Robert O. Young was convicted in?

927
1:32:34 --> 1:32:42
No. Someone will put it in the chat. Stephen, the full article is in the chat somewhere. San Diego.

928
1:32:42 --> 1:32:51
San Diego. California. No, it's California. Yeah, that's California state. That is California.

929
1:32:53 --> 1:33:05
Yep. Jesus. No. Yeah, OK. Sebastian, the question was asked a while ago about the black earth or

930
1:33:05 --> 1:33:10
topsoil, which is in Ukraine. Why this is so important? I think Alexander can also

931
1:33:10 --> 1:33:15
expound on this topic from a historic point of view. But I'd like to mention that there were

932
1:33:15 --> 1:33:23
rumors that in 2014, 2015, Bill Gates was buying up a tremendous amount of farmland globally,

933
1:33:24 --> 1:33:33
even in Russia. And he tried to get farmland in Ukraine. I think it was after the arms revolution.

934
1:33:34 --> 1:33:39
And it is because the topsoil is the most fertile soil. It is one of the most fertile soils

935
1:33:39 --> 1:33:47
in the world. And this happens to be, as Alexander said, it is in the south of Ukraine,

936
1:33:47 --> 1:33:55
where the four states have been incorporated into Russia, as well as Crimea. And on that point,

937
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Crimea is an extremely important geopolitical and strategic point of the world, which has been

938
1:34:02 --> 1:34:09
fought by the British since 1854, the Battle of Crimea, of which a movie was made,

939
1:34:10 --> 1:34:15
The Charge of the Light Brigade. And I pass on to Alexander here because this is of significant

940
1:34:15 --> 1:34:21
importance that he might like to speak about. What about Crimea, about the Crimean issue? I mean,

941
1:34:21 --> 1:34:30
the British, one has to say this clearly. I mean, most British people have only folk memories of the

942
1:34:30 --> 1:34:36
Crimean War. And of course, there's a famous poem by Tennyson about the Charge of the Light Brigade.

943
1:34:36 --> 1:34:42
And there's been films about this and that kind of thing. But the British establishment, parts of it,

944
1:34:42 --> 1:34:49
at least, seem to have never given up on this issue. And the idea about Crimea, if you look at

945
1:34:49 --> 1:34:59
Crimea in terms of the Black Sea, it sort of dominates naval movements on the Black Sea. And

946
1:34:59 --> 1:35:07
it also means that because of the Black Sea, because of the various big rivers open in the

947
1:35:07 --> 1:35:16
Black Sea, the Dnieper, the Dniester, the Danube, this is all part of some great geopolitical play.

948
1:35:16 --> 1:35:22
And there's been talk that the British want bases of the Black Sea and specifically in Crimea.

949
1:35:23 --> 1:35:30
And it's a fact that in 2014, the Americans, after the change of power in Kiev, after the Maidan coup,

950
1:35:30 --> 1:35:36
actually did send people to Crimea to sort of think about opening a base there. Of course,

951
1:35:36 --> 1:35:45
the Russians, Crimea is not just a naval base and a place that's important in those respects.

952
1:35:45 --> 1:35:50
But of course, it's very much a part of their history as well. So it's understandable perhaps

953
1:35:50 --> 1:35:58
that they would resist this. I have to say, I still find this fixation that some people in London

954
1:35:58 --> 1:36:08
have with Crimea very, very strange that people should cling on to ideas and geopolitical ideas

955
1:36:08 --> 1:36:19
of the 1850s in the modern world. It is part, in my opinion, of the unhealthy obsession that we have

956
1:36:19 --> 1:36:26
in Britain about Russia, which has never fully gone away and reasserts itself every so often,

957
1:36:26 --> 1:36:38
and which we now have in acute form. Quickly, on the subject of Crimea, just to also add,

958
1:36:38 --> 1:36:43
by the way, that all these names, these Greek names that you see, Sevastopol, Simferopol,

959
1:36:44 --> 1:36:54
Odessa, all of that, they have no actual Greek origin. They were chosen by Catherine the Great

960
1:36:54 --> 1:37:02
and Potemkin, her chief minister. So Sevastopol means the city of the empress,

961
1:37:02 --> 1:37:07
and the empress in question is, of course, Catherine the Great. And there was never any

962
1:37:07 --> 1:37:13
ancient Greek city by that name, and there was never any ancient Greek city by the name of Odessa

963
1:37:13 --> 1:37:20
either. That is a name that was also picked by them, and it clearly refers to Odysseus, the

964
1:37:20 --> 1:37:28
Greek hero, the ancient Greek hero. Brilliant. Thank you, Alexander. And Sebastian, Tom the Rodman man.

965
1:37:28 --> 1:37:38
Hi there. So I listen to both Alex's a couple times a week usually, and really appreciate it,

966
1:37:38 --> 1:37:47
and I appreciate Alex from CRETE. He apparently has a lot of IT ability, and he does a lot of work

967
1:37:48 --> 1:37:54
with all the channels and so forth. But I was talking to a friend last night who's actually

968
1:37:54 --> 1:38:02
on this call who's very good on history, and he went over the vilification of Putin starting in the

969
1:38:03 --> 1:38:12
right after he got installed. I guess initially he was greeted by Bush, and it was a positive thing.

970
1:38:12 --> 1:38:23
It was a positive thing. But I think what I'm concerned about is, or what I wanted to get across

971
1:38:23 --> 1:38:31
is that I first sort of became aware of, I certainly was impacted by Vietnam, but in the 90s I was not

972
1:38:31 --> 1:38:39
awake. And then over the 90s I think I woke up, and I think TWA flight 800 was something that

973
1:38:39 --> 1:38:47
woke me up, and then certainly 9-11 and so forth. But I wanted to just mention a few points. One

974
1:38:47 --> 1:38:57
thing Eric sees in Russia, he's brought up that there are drones going upwards of 1200 miles into

975
1:38:57 --> 1:39:05
Russia, and that somewhere between 8 and 10 percent of the oil refineries have been disabled

976
1:39:05 --> 1:39:11
periodically, and then they get rebuilt. And that this story is just not, this is another theme I

977
1:39:11 --> 1:39:20
have, what do we, what are we to focus on? We're focusing on Gaza. I was at a demonstration last

978
1:39:20 --> 1:39:28
night out in the cold about that issue. It's very important to me. But the number of dead per day

979
1:39:28 --> 1:39:37
in the Ukraine far exceeds the deaths in Gaza. So the American people have been just as duped as,

980
1:39:39 --> 1:39:45
well, I know this is a contentious issue, but there's a vilification of the Palestinians,

981
1:39:46 --> 1:39:52
and I contend that, you know, the Israelis have been fooled. There's some people,

982
1:39:53 --> 1:39:58
another comment you might address is the stratification of wealth within Israel.

983
1:39:59 --> 1:40:07
Is it true that there's a class struggle there, and that, you know, so I'm hitting all these points.

984
1:40:09 --> 1:40:18
Yeah, if you could, I'll try to wrap it up here. What do you think, is Trump going to, is the body

985
1:40:18 --> 1:40:28
count under Trump going to be less than Biden in the long run? And then your comments on the political

986
1:40:28 --> 1:40:35
capital that was spent by Trump in this press conference with Netanyahu, and do you have any

987
1:40:35 --> 1:40:41
additional analysis on that? Well, I've discussed all of these things. Can I simply say, first of

988
1:40:41 --> 1:40:46
all, that you're absolutely correct about one thing. There is a huge amount of vilification and

989
1:40:47 --> 1:40:53
media manipulation and distortion and propaganda. That is true of all wars, but the extent to which

990
1:40:53 --> 1:41:02
it has been happening in recent years has been astonishing. And it often is directed in conditions

991
1:41:02 --> 1:41:08
where there hasn't been a war. I mean, in theory, at least, I mean, we are not at war with Russia,

992
1:41:08 --> 1:41:15
and yet we behave all the time as if we are. We talk about Russian leaders and Russian political

993
1:41:15 --> 1:41:22
objectives as if we were actually at war with them. Now, I think people are starting to rebel

994
1:41:22 --> 1:41:30
against this in the United States, definitely, in Germany, to some extent, less so in Britain.

995
1:41:31 --> 1:41:38
I think if we're talking about the Middle East, about the conflict in Gaza, about the situation on

996
1:41:38 --> 1:41:47
the Palestinian territories, then I think here, the degree of pushback that there is from people

997
1:41:47 --> 1:41:58
about what is going on is much greater. People have learnt to be critical about the official

998
1:41:58 --> 1:42:04
views from a very, very much earlier point than they have been about Ukraine. Ukraine is still

999
1:42:04 --> 1:42:10
an early story. It's only been something that people have been watching and listening and

1000
1:42:10 --> 1:42:19
following about for about 10 years. Russia, it's perhaps longer, it goes back further. But

1001
1:42:20 --> 1:42:25
the issue of the war in Ukraine, as I said, people are only just now beginning to learn about it.

1002
1:42:26 --> 1:42:35
The war in Gaza, because it's been ongoing for, what, 80 years now, 70 years now,

1003
1:42:36 --> 1:42:40
a lot more people have become critical and an awful lot more people have become

1004
1:42:42 --> 1:42:48
much better informed about what is going on. Now, very quickly, just to touch on a few quick points,

1005
1:42:48 --> 1:42:54
the drone strikes that the Ukrainians do, I myself think that they are mostly performative. Yes,

1006
1:42:54 --> 1:43:00
they do do some damage. I think that they don't do any significant damage. If you look at the

1007
1:43:00 --> 1:43:06
overall economic numbers that are coming out of Russia, they are not affected by these drone

1008
1:43:06 --> 1:43:12
strikes. I think these are little pinprick things that Mr. Zelensky and his people do,

1009
1:43:12 --> 1:43:17
because they want to show that Ukraine is hitting back Russia in some way. So that's what I wanted

1010
1:43:17 --> 1:43:26
to say about those. Now, about the issue of these comments of Trump, there are two views here.

1011
1:43:26 --> 1:43:33
My own view is that Trump has no intention of deporting millions of people from Gaza. I think

1012
1:43:33 --> 1:43:41
he did understand that there is a potential political crisis in Israel, because this ceasefire

1013
1:43:41 --> 1:43:48
had been established in Gaza and that the Israeli government and Netanyahu himself

1014
1:43:48 --> 1:43:54
had not achieved the objective of destroying Hamas, which they told the Israeli people that

1015
1:43:54 --> 1:44:03
they would. I think Trump does not want to see Netanyahu go for all sorts of reasons. He prefers

1016
1:44:03 --> 1:44:11
the devil. He knows who is Netanyahu. So I think very unwisely and very foolishly he made these

1017
1:44:11 --> 1:44:19
extraordinary comments about Gaza, which he's now doubled down on, as he tends to do, in order

1018
1:44:20 --> 1:44:28
mostly to help Netanyahu. And I think that is probably all there was to it from Trump's

1019
1:44:28 --> 1:44:38
perspective. I think that in terms of the effect in Israel, in Gaza, in the wider Middle East,

1020
1:44:38 --> 1:44:45
and across the world, I think they were very, very bad comments. I think that they've been very badly

1021
1:44:45 --> 1:44:56
received. I think many people, myself being one of them, feel that they normalize deportations,

1022
1:44:56 --> 1:45:02
mass deportations of people, and appear to legitimize them. And I think Trump should not

1023
1:45:02 --> 1:45:12
have said what he did. Those are my views. Okay, one follow-up. Thank you. There's one

1024
1:45:12 --> 1:45:19
demonstration in the U.S. that I'm aware of against the Ukraine war, and Jill Stein was there. There was

1025
1:45:21 --> 1:45:28
the woman from Code Pink, Medea, was there, but they were not allowed to come to the front stage

1026
1:45:28 --> 1:45:36
because their respective organizations would not allow them to endorse that event. And it was the

1027
1:45:36 --> 1:45:41
People's Party. We also have somebody on this call who knows about the People's Party and the

1028
1:45:41 --> 1:45:50
corruption, how it's a paper party here. But I attended a local rally on that, and I was punished

1029
1:45:50 --> 1:45:54
by the party that I was in. I was expelled from that party.

1030
1:45:56 --> 1:46:03
Again, the body count in that is higher than Gaza, but there's no activity. Is there any

1031
1:46:03 --> 1:46:07
activity that you know of on the street against that war in Europe?

1032
1:46:07 --> 1:46:10
Because we're not seeing much here in the United States. It's just...

1033
1:46:10 --> 1:46:19
Well, there is very little, and in Britain there is none. I mean, there's been no anti-Ukraine war

1034
1:46:19 --> 1:46:24
protests in London, for example, that I'm aware of. I mean, just to say, there were a few at the

1035
1:46:24 --> 1:46:30
beginning, but of course they weren't anti-war protests. They were pro-Ukraine protests, which

1036
1:46:30 --> 1:46:35
ultimately meant pro-war protests. But those were right at the beginning. All that's melted away,

1037
1:46:36 --> 1:46:42
but it has not become a topic that people are mobilized around. And partly it is because

1038
1:46:42 --> 1:46:47
people are very, very intimidated. People are still very frightened. If you come out and talk

1039
1:46:48 --> 1:46:55
and speak out against the war, you're immediately classified as a Putin enabler or a Putin spokesman

1040
1:46:55 --> 1:47:03
or a Putin propagandist, and people are frightened of that. So we haven't yet reached that point

1041
1:47:04 --> 1:47:11
where protests have become possible. And can I just say the fact that you were expelled from your

1042
1:47:11 --> 1:47:19
party, the fact that Jill Stein was unable to speak, all of this is terrible. One should not

1043
1:47:20 --> 1:47:30
overlook how shocking it is that people are being prevented, in effect, from speaking out at public

1044
1:47:30 --> 1:47:39
meetings or attending public meetings. Again, once upon a time in Britain and the United States

1045
1:47:39 --> 1:47:46
and Canada and Australia and all sorts of places, it was absolutely possible to do this. We had a

1046
1:47:46 --> 1:47:51
place in London called Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park where people used to come and they used to

1047
1:47:51 --> 1:47:57
tip speaker. If you go to Speaker's Corner today, by the way, you will find it empty.

1048
1:47:57 --> 1:48:02
There is no one there anymore. I've been there many times. It's not far from where I live,

1049
1:48:02 --> 1:48:10
but it is now deserted. That whole free speech thing has died and it is terrible.

1050
1:48:10 --> 1:48:19
Now, there is not, however, the active persecution yet of people who speak out

1051
1:48:19 --> 1:48:24
against the war in Ukraine, as I do, that there is a people who speak out against what's been

1052
1:48:24 --> 1:48:34
going on in Gaza. Here there has been. I'm in touch with some people in Britain who have been

1053
1:48:34 --> 1:48:41
called in by the police, who have been detained for many hours, who have been questioned under

1054
1:48:41 --> 1:48:49
the Terrorism Act, which is an appalling act, by the way, absolutely awful act, the Terrorism Act,

1055
1:48:49 --> 1:48:54
you know, on the basis that they're giving support to a terrorist organization, in other words,

1056
1:48:54 --> 1:49:00
to Hamas, which I can say definitely that they are not. And they've been kept in custody for

1057
1:49:00 --> 1:49:07
periods of up to 96 hours without access to their lawyers and without ability to contact their

1058
1:49:07 --> 1:49:13
families. Now, I should say that I have been giving advice to one or two of these people,

1059
1:49:13 --> 1:49:19
not legal advice, but I've been arranging for lawyers to see them. One of them is a man called

1060
1:49:19 --> 1:49:25
Richard Medhurst. There have been others. I don't want to name who they are because obviously there

1061
1:49:25 --> 1:49:31
are confidentiality issues, but nothing like that yet about the conflict in Ukraine. And hopefully

1062
1:49:31 --> 1:49:39
there never will be. Thank you, Tom. Thank you, Alexander. Excellent. Alexander, 96 hours detention

1063
1:49:39 --> 1:49:44
in the UK without charges is illegal, isn't it? Absolutely. Absolutely. And I know that it's

1064
1:49:44 --> 1:49:52
happened. Denying a person access to a lawyer in that time is illegal. Preventing them from

1065
1:49:52 --> 1:50:01
talking to their families is illegal. Isolating them. And yet it is being done. I know that for

1066
1:50:01 --> 1:50:08
a fact. When did things change? When did Speaker's Corner die? I don't know. It's one of those

1067
1:50:09 --> 1:50:19
unnerving things that you go there and you suddenly notice that there isn't anyone there.

1068
1:50:19 --> 1:50:27
And then you go there again and again. And you realize that at some points recently,

1069
1:50:27 --> 1:50:33
but you can't exactly put your finger as to when it happened. This place, which used to be so

1070
1:50:33 --> 1:50:40
important, has ceased to function as it once did. I don't know. You won't find anybody to talk about

1071
1:50:40 --> 1:50:48
it. Nobody will discuss it. None of those things. So many things like that have disappeared from the

1072
1:50:48 --> 1:50:55
UK. Come on. Come on. We've got hands up, Stephen. Come on. We're running. We're going to run. You're

1073
1:50:55 --> 1:50:59
going to last. Stephen is the last. Every time I try to speak, Charles, I didn't get my 15 minutes.

1074
1:51:00 --> 1:51:05
And you close down every time. I'm trying to save you the last 15 minutes, Stephen.

1075
1:51:06 --> 1:51:14
Right. Well, that doesn't happen. With lovingly. At quarter past 10, your time, Stephen, it's all

1076
1:51:14 --> 1:51:21
yours for 15 minutes to grill Alexander. Well, we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. You'll have no problem.

1077
1:51:21 --> 1:51:23
Yeah, but then I can't think of the question. So I'm just.

1078
1:51:23 --> 1:51:32
Yeah, that's fair. Yevgeny, here we go. Yeah, thank you very much. First of all, I want to say

1079
1:51:32 --> 1:51:40
that as a psychiatrist from time to time, I attend Alexander's blog on YouTube as a psychotherapeutic,

1080
1:51:40 --> 1:51:48
you know, room. Thank you. So, um, Yevgeny, can I just explain who you are? So, uh, Yevgeny is a British,

1081
1:51:49 --> 1:51:57
uh, trained, trained in the UK as a doctor. So he's a British trained doctor and psychiatrist.

1082
1:51:57 --> 1:52:04
He was born in the Soviet Union. He knows the classics. He can talk about books forever.

1083
1:52:04 --> 1:52:10
And he was so he knows about totalitarianism as well because of where he was born. And, um,

1084
1:52:11 --> 1:52:19
and also very bravely and courageously, he's kind of accepted that he had to give up his

1085
1:52:20 --> 1:52:27
career in medicine, as did I, because of what was happening in 2020 and just said what he needed to

1086
1:52:27 --> 1:52:35
say and took the consequences. I actually deregistered myself and the license myself

1087
1:52:36 --> 1:52:42
in 2021 because I needed to speak out. Um, but Yevgeny didn't do that. He didn't play ball with

1088
1:52:42 --> 1:52:48
them. He paid the price and they recently took him out. Is that right? No, no, no,

1089
1:52:48 --> 1:52:59
it's completely wrong. I am winning. The thing is that it's a long, it's a long story. Just in one

1090
1:52:59 --> 1:53:05
sentence in 2019, I whistle-blowed about mistreatment of the patients in psychiatric

1091
1:53:05 --> 1:53:11
hospital in Scotland. So I was dismissed. Uh, there was fabricated case against me against

1092
1:53:11 --> 1:53:18
GMC, which was ongoing like for three years. So the results of these things, so I won employment

1093
1:53:18 --> 1:53:24
with, you know, I won the case in the GMC, in the GMC without lawyer, by the way. So, and, uh, several

1094
1:53:24 --> 1:53:31
times the Scottish DNA tries to like, to destroy my further advancement in the program. So eventually

1095
1:53:31 --> 1:53:38
I won, uh, the, in the dinner that I continue my training. So the, the stuff is going on, by the way,

1096
1:53:38 --> 1:53:43
I'm working in the hospital just beside the children's hospitals called Sky House,

1097
1:53:43 --> 1:53:51
which yesterday was in the BBC investigation about abuse of the young patients in the, in the ward

1098
1:53:51 --> 1:53:58
by the nursing staff. Okay. So just, I want to say that I'm attending your YouTube as a sort of

1099
1:53:58 --> 1:54:07
psychotherapeutic couch to relax toxic, you know, lying propaganda, which just goes from every corner.

1100
1:54:09 --> 1:54:14
You see how the propaganda is working. Somebody mentioned Skripals today. So they were poisoned,

1101
1:54:14 --> 1:54:22
I think, uh, was it like 2018, fourth of March on Sunday. On this day, I arrived in the, at the

1102
1:54:22 --> 1:54:27
ski resort in Highlands, like for skiing from mountains. So the next day, somebody is asking

1103
1:54:27 --> 1:54:35
me in the lounge area, Yevgeny, why did you poison Skripals? Do you know? It's crazy. Then another

1104
1:54:35 --> 1:54:40
thing about, I previously mentioned about the totalitarian thing. We should be very careful with

1105
1:54:40 --> 1:54:48
adjectives and looks look into the essence of the things. And they say every state is totalitarian.

1106
1:54:48 --> 1:54:55
It's just the, um, the, the sometimes the totalitarian regime, which controls actually

1107
1:54:55 --> 1:55:01
every citizen by laws, educations, their culture, and allows them some autonomy. It can camouflage,

1108
1:55:01 --> 1:55:06
we can say in the in democratic procedures, like elections or freedom of speech, like this

1109
1:55:06 --> 1:55:13
corner in the, in the, in the, uh, in the Hyde Park. It doesn't matter. You can make a speech in your

1110
1:55:13 --> 1:55:18
toilet. Nobody will hear you. It's in, if you're influential and if your voice is heard by millions,

1111
1:55:18 --> 1:55:24
you'll be destroyed. So every state is totalitarian. But now we can see that in the West,

1112
1:55:24 --> 1:55:30
this totally, we can say also the state just shows it real face. It's an apparatus of coercion.

1113
1:55:30 --> 1:55:36
And all this COVID story just shows that it was a disaster of population, almost in all countries

1114
1:55:36 --> 1:55:41
apart, maybe from Belarus, you know, and it shows that people will listen to the government

1115
1:55:41 --> 1:55:45
and they will listen to the advice. They will explain stay at home. And if the government tells

1116
1:55:45 --> 1:55:50
them Russia is your enemy, go and attack Russian embassy, they will do it in London, like with this

1117
1:55:50 --> 1:55:59
protests. So most of the population there, we can see it's like the research. So I want just quick

1118
1:55:59 --> 1:56:03
comment about fertility. There are a lot of factors about fertility, but this is like, I'll tell you

1119
1:56:03 --> 1:56:11
one factor. Consumption of antidepressants of new generations, so-called SSRIs, serotonin selective

1120
1:56:11 --> 1:56:20
inhibitors of like, of this stuff, known to cause loss of libido, permanent sexual dysfunction.

1121
1:56:20 --> 1:56:25
And there is even some rich search, I don't recall either in Canada or in the States, where

1122
1:56:26 --> 1:56:33
they found out that the loss of fertility of the fish in the river, in the rivers, corresponds

1123
1:56:33 --> 1:56:41
to the level of byproducts of antidepressants, which go like through the system of the people

1124
1:56:41 --> 1:56:47
into the sewage system. So it's one of the factors that definitely there is yetrogenic

1125
1:56:47 --> 1:56:55
artificial effect on fertility potentially. And my questions will be, and also I want to say that

1126
1:56:56 --> 1:57:04
many people need to learn from Alexander, analytical skills. It's not enough analytical skills.

1127
1:57:04 --> 1:57:09
He got like systemic knowledge in certain areas where he can see the patterns and he can draw

1128
1:57:09 --> 1:57:16
parallels. But these days people just make very simple conclusions and they talk about like the

1129
1:57:16 --> 1:57:22
leaders. The main thing is the groups, who are the groups of powers. My question will be one of them,

1130
1:57:22 --> 1:57:28
so I want to ask two questions. One of them about sort of world government. And the second one,

1131
1:57:28 --> 1:57:36
what does he think is the Soviet, we can say, Soviet socialist regime of economics? Is it

1132
1:57:36 --> 1:57:43
an alternative to capitalistic regime? So the first one will be about government. In our circle,

1133
1:57:43 --> 1:57:49
for example, the group for the patients in the UK, some people believe that, oh, there is a world

1134
1:57:49 --> 1:57:54
government which controls like everything. So it coordinates these campaigns. And they're saying,

1135
1:57:54 --> 1:57:59
it's impossible. There are a lot of groups of power even within one country. But there are certain

1136
1:57:59 --> 1:58:05
institutions of like world institutions of coordination of the actions where from different

1137
1:58:05 --> 1:58:10
countries, different groups, they gather somewhere through open structures, through closed structures,

1138
1:58:10 --> 1:58:18
and they sort of agree about plan of action. What do you think, Alexander? Do we have world

1139
1:58:18 --> 1:58:22
government or not? Well, I don't think we have exactly a world government in the sense of a

1140
1:58:22 --> 1:58:28
structured group of people who sit together and have a meeting and say, you know, this is what we

1141
1:58:28 --> 1:58:33
got to do in, you know, Peru or whatever it is. I mean, I don't think that is that is exactly what

1142
1:58:33 --> 1:58:46
we have. What we have is a community of people from, you know, decision makers, policy makers,

1143
1:58:46 --> 1:58:57
power makers, people of that kind, relatively small, which comes together, forms a kind of

1144
1:58:57 --> 1:59:05
consensus and which tries to shape events. And I think this is what happens. And I think it is very

1145
1:59:05 --> 1:59:11
powerful. And it absolutely does exist. And I think anybody who thinks that it doesn't just simply

1146
1:59:12 --> 1:59:17
So, of course, they do have their various institutions, places where they meet. You know,

1147
1:59:17 --> 1:59:24
we've heard about the WEF and all of that. And, you know, I'm not saying that that isn't important,

1148
1:59:24 --> 1:59:32
but it isn't just in these places that these people meet. They meet all the time. They meet in every

1149
1:59:32 --> 1:59:42
sort of place that you can find. And they come together. In order to be a part of this community,

1150
1:59:43 --> 1:59:51
you have to have certain views that are shared by the community as a whole. Obviously, you have

1151
1:59:52 --> 1:59:59
power and you have access to power and you apply it. So I think that it's not exactly a world

1152
1:59:59 --> 2:00:06
government, but it is a world ruling class, if I can put it like that. Now, you asked another

1153
2:00:06 --> 2:00:14
question, which is about Soviet Union economics. But could you say that again, actually, because it

1154
2:00:14 --> 2:00:22
sounded interesting. Yeah, I just want to clarify the second question. So to simplify things,

1155
2:00:22 --> 2:00:30
then we can say capitalistic West and to parallel to this system, social political system in the

1156
2:00:30 --> 2:00:37
West, capitalistic system was running, we can say the project, the Soviet project of the Soviet Union,

1157
2:00:37 --> 2:00:43
socialist state, although some people say, use the term like communist, but let's say that's like

1158
2:00:43 --> 2:00:50
the Soviet regime or regime of Eastern Europe was a block like countries. And there were a lot of

1159
2:00:50 --> 2:00:55
similarities in the way they were still sort of market, they were still money, they still sort of

1160
2:00:55 --> 2:01:00
some sort of exploitation. And it was industrial mode of production, with only difference that,

1161
2:01:01 --> 2:01:08
as I see it from what I like witnessed, we have the system where in the Soviets, there is no

1162
2:01:08 --> 2:01:14
private property of production in and you don't have land, you don't have factories to produce

1163
2:01:14 --> 2:01:20
significant wealth in the society. And the system is not working for profit, it just

1164
2:01:20 --> 2:01:26
to satisfy the needs. In the West, it's we can say, mixed system, but most of the stuff is

1165
2:01:26 --> 2:01:32
is a private interest. The huge major corporations, they're looking for profit, they want you to buy

1166
2:01:32 --> 2:01:39
the car like every year or to change your mobile like every, every model. So and the thing is that

1167
2:01:39 --> 2:01:46
the capitalistic regime or system try to reinvent itself, it goes into crises and goes

1168
2:01:46 --> 2:01:54
in new. So we sort of new crisis where they're trying sort of to maybe to moderate consumption

1169
2:01:54 --> 2:01:59
with the stories about global warming, that we should like leave minimalistic style of life.

1170
2:01:59 --> 2:02:05
And capitalism will try to survive. In this case, we see the new waves of near colonial,

1171
2:02:05 --> 2:02:10
we can say wars. What I see in Ukraine, it's actually near colonial war. So what do you think

1172
2:02:11 --> 2:02:17
what we look in the future as a model of like social political regime? Is it some sort of new

1173
2:02:17 --> 2:02:26
vegetarian type of capitalism or it should be some sort of more humanitarian faced Soviet regime?

1174
2:02:26 --> 2:02:32
So what's this is a very, very, very good question. And again, it's if it was easy to answer this

1175
2:02:32 --> 2:02:39
question like this, it would be I there's all sorts of people who are trying to look for

1176
2:02:40 --> 2:02:49
an economic system or at least a social economic system that will be juster and better structured

1177
2:02:49 --> 2:02:58
than the one we have today. I think the thing to say about this is that I am not able to set out

1178
2:02:58 --> 2:03:04
the model for a different system. I do believe that the socialist system that existed in the

1179
2:03:04 --> 2:03:12
Soviet Union was different in fundamental ways from the one that functioned in the West. And

1180
2:03:13 --> 2:03:18
it's important to say also, because this is something that some people have difficulty

1181
2:03:18 --> 2:03:25
accepting that that socialist system did actually function, it worked. I mean, it may not have

1182
2:03:26 --> 2:03:32
provided an abundance of consumer goods and that kind of thing. But if you're talking it is purely

1183
2:03:32 --> 2:03:42
in economic terms, it actually was a functional system. Now, what we are going to head to

1184
2:03:42 --> 2:03:53
in the future, I don't know, I am somebody who strongly wants to believe in democracy,

1185
2:03:53 --> 2:04:01
in human freedom, in human choice, those kinds of things. I would like to believe that the system

1186
2:04:01 --> 2:04:10
that will eventually evolve will satisfy those things which I do believe I do want to believe

1187
2:04:10 --> 2:04:17
are intrinsic to humankind and what I want to say. I want to wrap this straight away.

1188
2:04:17 --> 2:04:23
How the democracy is possible if the people who are in power keeps the power. We know

1189
2:04:23 --> 2:04:30
there were democracies since ancient Athens, where they were choosing their generals. And in

1190
2:04:30 --> 2:04:37
Rome, there was a system of elections as well. They were bribing with food. So the thing is that

1191
2:04:37 --> 2:04:48
the people who are still in power, they will hold this power. If you win the elections,

1192
2:04:48 --> 2:04:54
like as a communist or socialist and try to do some reforms, they will remove you from power.

1193
2:04:54 --> 2:05:00
An example of Chile, so he started moderate reforms, he won elections and the result,

1194
2:05:01 --> 2:05:08
he is butchered and a significant chunk of the population is butchered as well. So in this case,

1195
2:05:08 --> 2:05:14
yeah, there were democracies. That's for again to sustain this camouflage of the apparatus of

1196
2:05:14 --> 2:05:22
coercion. Right. Well, what I was going to say was that is what I would like to see happen.

1197
2:05:22 --> 2:05:31
I am not sure that it will happen. I mean, there is a very strong trend towards a more technocratic,

1198
2:05:31 --> 2:05:38
more controlled system. And I you know, it's entirely possible that we will see that we were

1199
2:05:38 --> 2:05:42
talking about the fact that there is a world ruling class, it could be that it could be organized

1200
2:05:42 --> 2:05:49
around them, or it could be something different with different structures that you know, I can't

1201
2:05:49 --> 2:05:57
imagine. But I am I don't know how it will be. I would like it to be a more democratic system.

1202
2:05:57 --> 2:06:04
I am not saying necessarily that it will be. Now I'm going to suggest that I don't know whether

1203
2:06:04 --> 2:06:09
you're familiar with this, but there was a writer, an American writer in the early 20th century called

1204
2:06:09 --> 2:06:17
Michels. And by the way, he eventually became a fascist and ended up in Italy in the 1920s.

1205
2:06:17 --> 2:06:27
But he was a very profound and incisive writer and a political thinker. And he said that behind

1206
2:06:27 --> 2:06:38
every political system, there is an oligarchy. And he coined the expression the iron law of oligarchy,

1207
2:06:38 --> 2:06:46
that every system ultimately devolves into that. Now I would like to believe that Michels is wrong.

1208
2:06:47 --> 2:06:52
But always, I ask myself, whether perhaps he might have been right.

1209
2:06:53 --> 2:06:58
We're going to move on. Jordan Peterson would agree with that, Evgeny. And Alexander, what you

1210
2:06:58 --> 2:07:04
just said, all right, that that there are certain people that always gravitate, make everybody equal

1211
2:07:04 --> 2:07:09
tomorrow. And within three years, the people who were at the top before will be at the top again.

1212
2:07:09 --> 2:07:15
So we've got two more questions and then Stephen for the last 15 minutes. So thank you, Evgeny.

1213
2:07:15 --> 2:07:20
Good to see you, Mark, then Sebastian and then Stephen. Thanks for that. Alexander, you live in

1214
2:07:20 --> 2:07:28
London. I suggest, have you heard of a weapon system called neural strike? No, tell me about it.

1215
2:07:29 --> 2:07:37
Well, I haven't heard about it. It was a CCP. There was a whistleblower in the PLA who brought

1216
2:07:37 --> 2:07:42
this to the attention of the world. I was looking for the electronic assault weapon and I found it

1217
2:07:42 --> 2:07:48
situated in what the Transport for London call a camera. You've actually got an

1218
2:07:48 --> 2:07:54
electronic assault weapons program being deployed right across London, part of the low emission zone

1219
2:07:54 --> 2:08:01
and deployment. Right. So if you're in London, just have a look on top of the traffic lights,

1220
2:08:01 --> 2:08:06
you'll get a bit of a surprise. There's a lot of very heavy duty hardware on there. A lot of it's

1221
2:08:06 --> 2:08:14
rad hardened, which tells me this is very disturbing. OK. Can you just say, just set the name again?

1222
2:08:15 --> 2:08:21
Neural strike, neural strike. What happened? I've invested, you know, the Blade Runners have been

1223
2:08:21 --> 2:08:26
chopping quite a few of these things down. I was concerned that it didn't look anything like an

1224
2:08:26 --> 2:08:35
NPR camera, supposedly for license plate recognition. It looks very, very militaristic, obviously on

1225
2:08:35 --> 2:08:42
in detailed inspection. I found that's exactly what it was. It's got a piece of hardware in it,

1226
2:08:43 --> 2:08:49
which was built by Thales. However, this was partnered with the Huawei

1227
2:08:50 --> 2:08:55
technology company. Basically, most telecommunications are militarized anyway,

1228
2:08:55 --> 2:09:01
but this is a military piece of hardware. It's a laser guidance weapon system,

1229
2:09:01 --> 2:09:05
abandoned international law for blinding people. And that's what they've deployed right across

1230
2:09:05 --> 2:09:12
London. So unbelievable. Why has this not been talked about more? I mean, I mean, I'm asking a

1231
2:09:12 --> 2:09:17
rhetorical question, but I would nonetheless ask you to because I haven't heard of it. So tell me

1232
2:09:17 --> 2:09:22
why I haven't heard about it. I mean, is it who is doing this? Who is installing these things?

1233
2:09:22 --> 2:09:25
I mean, I'm sorry, I'm asking the question. I'm asking questions that.

1234
2:09:27 --> 2:09:32
The company is called Siemens. But if you look inside, you'll see it's these international defense,

1235
2:09:32 --> 2:09:39
large defense contractors, Thales. It has a operating platform called Azure. Azure was a

1236
2:09:39 --> 2:09:48
5G weapons operating platform built with Microsoft Lockheed Martin, Thales. And it's what drives the

1237
2:09:48 --> 2:09:54
whole thing. But it's been driven with a with a piece of hardware. It's a product called Jamalto.

1238
2:09:55 --> 2:10:01
It's built in China. It's a high speed modem. So it basically controls the whole

1239
2:10:01 --> 2:10:06
electronic assault weapon system. So if you're in and around central London, just have a look on

1240
2:10:06 --> 2:10:12
top of your traffic lights, get a bit of a shock. Yeah, the biometric sensors. Yeah, the biometric

1241
2:10:12 --> 2:10:17
sensors to track people who unfortunately took the, you know, the COVID-19 injection.

1242
2:10:17 --> 2:10:22
Well, Mark, can I just say, I mean, it is absolutely terrible that this thing has been installed in the

1243
2:10:22 --> 2:10:27
way that you say, and that it's not been talked about. As far as I'm aware, there's been no public

1244
2:10:27 --> 2:10:33
debate about it. No information. The media doesn't write about it. There's been no discussion

1245
2:10:33 --> 2:10:38
in parliament. I mean, it's absolutely terrible. You know, once upon a time, and again, I'm sorry

1246
2:10:38 --> 2:10:46
if I'm being a little bit, you know, nostalgic and historicist here. Way back in the 19th century,

1247
2:10:46 --> 2:10:53
there was a debate about imposing licensing on pubs. It's a fact, you know, restrictions on when

1248
2:10:53 --> 2:11:02
people can drink. And there was opposition to this in parliament. And a parliamentarian,

1249
2:11:02 --> 2:11:09
who was actually a bishop, actually said, I would rather see England free than England sober.

1250
2:11:10 --> 2:11:16
So that was the English tradition. I mean, there was always this, obviously, people, you know,

1251
2:11:16 --> 2:11:23
did do regulations, but there was always this pushback against things. Now, there's nothing.

1252
2:11:24 --> 2:11:29
It's able to install these things right across London, apparently, and there's no public debate.

1253
2:11:30 --> 2:11:35
The newspapers don't write about it. The Guardian, which used to write about things like this from a

1254
2:11:35 --> 2:11:40
sort of leftist point of view, because that's what they did. And the Daily Telegraph, which used to

1255
2:11:40 --> 2:11:44
write about these things from a right-wing libertarian point of view, because that's what

1256
2:11:44 --> 2:11:49
they did. They haven't said anything about this. Nobody, you're the first person who's told me

1257
2:11:49 --> 2:11:54
about this. I will certainly look out for these things. Do you actually have a question to me?

1258
2:11:54 --> 2:11:59
Because I've been asking all the questions. Well, it's a question to be fair was to ask if

1259
2:11:59 --> 2:12:05
you knew anything about it. No, I don't. I don't. And I'm absolutely appalled that I don't, actually.

1260
2:12:05 --> 2:12:10
But I will certainly find out about it. And I will contact, I will speak to a few people I know who

1261
2:12:10 --> 2:12:16
would know more about this than, well, obviously, I would certainly know more about me about it than

1262
2:12:16 --> 2:12:22
I do. Because I've been doing nothing about it. Well, TfL, I don't mean it's just a camera, but I've

1263
2:12:22 --> 2:12:28
actually investigated, I have looked inside it, and I do have some of the bits from it. So I can

1264
2:12:28 --> 2:12:36
definitely tell you what it actually is. I should say that to people who don't know, I think London

1265
2:12:36 --> 2:12:42
has more cameras all over the place than pretty much any city in the world. I mean, they've

1266
2:12:42 --> 2:12:47
proliferated to an unbelievable degree. And it's all supposed to be to control traffic.

1267
2:12:47 --> 2:12:53
But that's what it's masquerading for. It's called fusion technology. And you can actually

1268
2:12:53 --> 2:12:58
look down to the nanoscale. So it can actually interrogate the bio metrics of the person.

1269
2:12:59 --> 2:13:04
Right. Right. Well, thank you, Mike. Alexander, they're controlling human beings.

1270
2:13:04 --> 2:13:07
Well, there you go. Yeah. A lot of plant.

1271
2:13:07 --> 2:13:09
The Emperor has no clothes. No.

1272
2:13:10 --> 2:13:13
Just like the eye in America. Yeah.

1273
2:13:13 --> 2:13:17
Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for Alexander. Thank you. Thank you, Mark.

1274
2:13:23 --> 2:13:30
Sebastian. Steven, thanks. I just wanted to mention, I don't know if anyone has

1275
2:13:30 --> 2:13:34
heard about this, but Richard Medhurst was recently arrested in Austria.

1276
2:13:34 --> 2:13:38
I know I have heard about him. He's in touch with me, by the way.

1277
2:13:39 --> 2:13:43
Exactly. I actually contacted him and asked him if he would join us also.

1278
2:13:44 --> 2:13:48
Who has been arrested in Austria? He's a journalist. He's a British journalist.

1279
2:13:50 --> 2:13:52
Based in Vienna. What's his name?

1280
2:13:53 --> 2:13:55
Richard Medhurst. Oh, I know him. Yes, of course. Yeah.

1281
2:13:57 --> 2:14:03
So I didn't know if you were all aware of that. And Alexander, I actually have asked Mark to join

1282
2:14:03 --> 2:14:08
us also on the Durant to speak about this topic because I do think it's very, very important.

1283
2:14:08 --> 2:14:11
That's all I really had to say. So thanks.

1284
2:14:11 --> 2:14:17
You were super short, Sebastian. Well done. All right, Steven, your time,

1285
2:14:17 --> 2:14:22
as I say in the classics, your time has come. Put your video on so we can see your smiley face.

1286
2:14:22 --> 2:14:26
But now I can't remember the questions, but I'll have a go. I can think of more.

1287
2:14:27 --> 2:14:33
So I think one thing that's very surprising to me, Alexander, I think you're very curious as well.

1288
2:14:33 --> 2:14:41
It doesn't take much to arouse your curiosity. I'm pretty curious. I am even at the expense of my

1289
2:14:41 --> 2:14:46
own propaganda, if you like, or my own ideas. I want to explore things to find out what the truth

1290
2:14:46 --> 2:14:53
is. So we had a guest recently who said that the most important things in his opinion were

1291
2:14:54 --> 2:15:00
searching for the truth and courage. So you could put it the way Charles did with 12 different,

1292
2:15:01 --> 2:15:08
you know, battlefronts. But I think the easier way to describe it to people is,

1293
2:15:08 --> 2:15:13
you know, we need to seek the truth and we need to be courageous at this time. And,

1294
2:15:15 --> 2:15:20
and if you if you're not courageous, then you're letting down your own family and your children.

1295
2:15:20 --> 2:15:26
And your grandchildren, if you've got grandchildren. So I think people need to understand

1296
2:15:26 --> 2:15:33
that they have a responsibility to the society in which they live, and not to just constantly

1297
2:15:33 --> 2:15:39
thinking constantly thinking about themselves, and maybe their family, if they're lucky.

1298
2:15:40 --> 2:15:47
It seems that many parents are quite happy to delegate the education system to the children.

1299
2:15:47 --> 2:15:56
Happy to delegate the education so called of their children to the state, and not contribute,

1300
2:15:56 --> 2:16:00
not help the teachers not show any interest. Oh, sorry, I've switched it off instead of

1301
2:16:02 --> 2:16:10
so just trying to get my video. So I just wonder, so I do think I made a few points,

1302
2:16:10 --> 2:16:12
I don't know if you remember them, but it doesn't matter.

1303
2:16:13 --> 2:16:19
No, no, I can't. I can't remember. Carry on. I should say I can I can see a picture,

1304
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but I can't see you. That's all we can see your interrogation lights, David, but not your face.

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So, yeah, there we are. So I, and so I do think that if we get everything else right,

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and we don't address how our children are educated or miseducated, then we will lose the war.

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We have to get the education of our children right. Now, you could argue, as I said earlier,

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you know, that there's a kind of human beings that find their way eventually, but, you know,

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maybe so the Soviet Union, for example, arguably found its way in 1989, but many would disagree.

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And it took them from 1917 to 1989 to correct that. So, you know, yes, you know, maybe things

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will balance out in the long run, and human beings will find a way. But most human beings want to

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kind of enjoy their lives. And so it'd be very good to avoid things before they actually happen,

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which are very difficult once they've happened to correct. So I just wonder whether you can

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speak generally on some of the things I've just mentioned. I think I think what you have discussed

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is the fact that, you know, going back to our first discussion about the fact that we are social

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beings, that we are part of the community of Politea, we need to be active and to play an

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active role in that, and to work constantly on this, and obviously to have that responsibility

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to our children. And I think this is absolutely true. Now, I have just become a parent over the

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last three years, my children, my two oldest children are now starting what's called preschool

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in England. And one of the things I've discovered, and which we all parents are discovering,

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is that we are not left alone as parents. We are constantly under pressure now from the school

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system to basically control our children in the way that they want us to control. So if any parents

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will confirm this, by the way, I mean, they might not see it in exactly my perspective. But

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in terms of upbringing of children, it's very much the school now,

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which is of course, an institution of, you know, the wider state, which is pushing constantly upon

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you to do various things to make sure that they, you know, take particular lessons, that they are

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brought up in a certain way, that they exercise certain forms of speech and behaviour,

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and you know, all this business of, you know, comfort zones and all of that.

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I had never imagined the extent to which it happens. And bear in mind, I'm talking about

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two little girls who are three. Yeah. So, I'm just changing the subject a little bit, but not much.

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Do you think Sweden is a pilot study for totalitarianism?

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I don't know enough about Sweden to be able to say, perhaps. I've never been there, by the way.

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I've never been to Sweden. My parents used to love Sweden. They used to go there in the 60s

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in its social democratic heyday. Targa Erlander was the Prime Minister at that time, and they loved

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it. And for them, this was the ideal. But then they were very much old guard leftists. It would

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appeal to them. I don't know what Sweden is really like, but maybe it is. So, in 1969, a book was

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written by a British guy, I think, called Roland Hunford. It was called The New Totalitarians.

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When I went to Sweden in the 80s, my wife is Swedish, I became aware of this book, and I

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was fascinated by it. And there was another book called, the book's title was called, it was called

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A Clean, Well-Lighted Place. And after five years of living in Sweden, that resonated with me. I knew

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what it meant. But I couldn't articulate what it meant, if you understand me. But I recognised the

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title, and I've remembered it to this day. Very interesting, isn't it, how human beings operate.

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So, a clean, well-lighted place. The thing about Sweden, which is very unusual, is that the

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population of Sweden believes its government. That's why it didn't need a lockdown.

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And I think that there are suspicions in my mind that Sweden was a pilot study in totalitarianism.

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I mean, that is very interesting. And again, as I said, I've never been there, so I don't

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know very much about it. But a population that believes its government is a deluded population,

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by definition. Completely lost. Completely lost. I couldn't put my finger on it when I was there.

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I really couldn't. But I felt as though I was on a mission there. I couldn't understand the place.

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I was trying to understand it. Because without understanding the country in which you live,

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or the society in which you live, you're very vulnerable. So I need, I think, this is why

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foreigners grow and they go to a different country. So I think the best education is

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actually moving to a different country and surviving in that country, especially when

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it's totally new to you. It's a really steep learning curve. And essentially, you know,

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you might go back to your own country because you failed in that new country, because you don't

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understand it. And so, I think, so, I think, I just try to think of what's the most important

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thing to talk about. In my mind, I think the most important thing to talk about

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is what's happened in the last, since 2020 in particular. It seems to me that governments

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all around the world thought it was okay to psychologically damage, to psychologically attack

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their own populations. They forgot that they were the servants of the people.

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Your children and all children need to learn at school the relationship between the individual

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and the state. You know, what is the aim? We are not servants of the state. In Sweden,

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there's something called knäckebröd, which is a special hard bread. It has big holes on one side.

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This is simplifying maybe, you know, there may be other differences. But to me, as a bloke,

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it's had big holes on one side and small holes on the other side. And I was told by one of my

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friends, my Swedish friends, who came from the Swedish-Finnish border and was very influenced by

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Finland. And of course, Finland had been in the Winter War with Russia. So, they knew about

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suffering. He told me that Swedish children learned at school, sorry, at Dargis, it was called. It

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was a kind of place for the children to be deposited while the mothers went out to work.

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You know, in the feminism wave, should we say. And so, they learned at Dargis how to butter

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the knäckebröd. So, when I was saying to my wife and to my Swedish friends, you know,

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this knäckebröd, what do I do with this? Oh, all the Swedes knew. And they all had the same story

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because they'd learned about it in Dargis, not from their parents, but from Dargis. So,

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the parents left everything to Dargis when I was there in the 80s. So, I'm mentioning all this.

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I wonder whether you can see a pattern which we need to get into the curriculum of every...

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Well, I think that I am seeing this already in the school that my children are attending,

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which is that they are expected to behave in a certain way. I don't mean that, you know,

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I'm not talking about them not being disruptive or, you know, anything of that kind. But

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their speech is now being monitored in the school which they go to. And ultimately, of course,

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through the speech, their thought in a way that would have been completely inconceivable

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when I was at school. I do think there's going to be a pushback against this as well, by the way,

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in England. I think that we are a different society.

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You do or you don't, Alexander?

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I think we do. I think we will. I think we are a different society in Sweden. I think that there

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is a more, well, if you like, a more anarchic spirit still.

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Well, you say that, Alexander, but I'm...

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You know what I was going to say. Yeah.

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No, you say that, but I'm despairing because I see the similarities increasing rather than decreasing.

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Well, as I mentioned at the start of the program, that with every single year that has passed,

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since I first came to England in 1968, I've seen liberty, if you like, gradually erode away.

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When I say that I think that there will be a backlash against it and all that, you know,

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I'm not going to pretend or I don't pretend to myself. That is what I want to see. And of course,

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what I want to see is what I hope I will see. But, you know, I might be disappointed.

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But, Alexander, so, you know, you mentioned your children. You've got children and you need to

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educate them. So how are you going to educate them in a state education system? Because I think you're

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going to have a big shock. Well, probably. I mean, I should say that, I mean, I play a very active role

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in the life of my children. I mean, I read books to them. I tell them stories. I have my own ideas.

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My wife is the same. So I think that we do have that influence over our children.

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And obviously, that is something which I think we will fight to preserve and retain. But I can

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already foresee that we're going to have problems going forward. I don't want to discuss this in too

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much detail because I can't speak for her. But my wife has already had many issues at university,

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for example. I mean, she's found it very difficult to express certain opinions, not just about Russia,

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but just general opinions about things without encountering not just criticism, but pressure.

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Well, almost, absolutely. For some members of the academic and managerial body.

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So, I understand you. So not the students so far. Interestingly. Yeah, I don't want to pry,

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Alexander. Is she British or is she foreign? She's absolutely British. I mean, her mother was German,

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but she was brought up in Britain. She is absolutely British in every other respect.

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Yes, her mother was German. That's the German connection I have, if you like, but she's very British.

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Interesting. But both you and she have a foot in two countries, essentially.

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And the same with the Afghani. It really is a magnificent education, I think. Just actually

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having knowledge of two countries is enough. But anyway, I just want to ask you, Alexander,

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after the last four years and what we're seeing now in America, what are the big lessons in your

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view? You know, you might, you know, in a perfect world, you might like more time to think about.

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But off the top of your head, what can you see now, the two or three most important things that we

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need to understand about what has happened since 2020? And I think it was treason, by the way,

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worldwide treason. Yeah, I think the first and most important thing to take away is the government's

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lie. All governments lie. I mean, either way, I've said this many times, I said this on my

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programs, all governments lie. And one should not assume that what you're being told by any government

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is true. That is the first thing. That is the first thing that anybody who wants to be an active and

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effective citizen should remember. And the second is that there is always an impulse

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within government, society, the state to try to control and to try to extend control.

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As somebody who worked inside state bureaucracies and have seen them from the inside,

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I can absolutely say that. And the other things, the other side, the positive sides, is to remember

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the importance of human autonomy, human dignity, human independence, the right of free speech,

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those sort of things, because that is what enables us to hold back and to resist these pressures that

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are always going to be there. Absolutely. Thank you so much, Alexander, for coming to speak to us.

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Thank you very much. Thank you. Beautifully said. Thank you, Alexander. Thank you, Sebastian,

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for your role. Stephen, well done for organizing. Thank you, everybody, for your contributions.

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Don't forget to save the chat. And we'll be back again. And on we go in our fight for truth,

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justice, freedom, ethics and health. And Alexander, as John Cleese would say,

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I think it was John Cleese, you're a very naughty boy, because you've sat here for two and a half

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hours and you have not even had to go to the toilet once, which clearly means you're not drinking

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enough water. So get more water into you. All right, everybody. Thank you very much. Thank you,

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everyone. Thank you, Alexander. And Alexander, I think one thing that I would say to people is

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they need to be learned to be awkward. Yeah, absolutely. When you need to stand up and defend

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yourself and your family. Absolutely. So few people are prepared to do that these days.

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What do you say, Jocheny? Just a quick question. The books on the top shelf beside the medallion

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of Alexander, Alexanderos Megalos. Yeah, is it Alexander the Great? Alexander the Great. That

1439
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was a present, by the way. So on the top shelf, all these books, like the similar, on the top shelf,

1440
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the small books, what is this? The small books, they're some of the Greek classics.

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Ah, I was trying to guess all the time and just. They're from the American Loeb edition of the

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Greek. Loeb library. Loeb library. Yes, thank you. And further to what Charles just said, Alexander,

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I would say that you're a naughty boy because you don't put forward the views that the state

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would like you to put forward. Oh, yeah. Yes. Very naughty boy. So, Sebastian, so you, Stephen,

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so all of us here. All right, everybody, stay naughty, stay awkward. Bye, everybody. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. Very good. Thank you so much. Thank you.