Hello, Gerry in Ireland and everybody welcome to...
I'll just close this spot of noise happening.
Welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and today's spirited exchange that we're going to have, very spirited.
This community was ignited nearly four years ago by Dr. Stephen Frost, a Welsh radiologist with a passion for truth.
As a seasoned whistleblower and activist, Stephen founded this group to champion truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health in the face of global challenges.
At this time, we also remember Rainer Fulmick, German American lawyer, freedom activist, truth activist who is currently incarcerated in Germany following an unlawful court hearing.
And he's been there for over three years. Please do what you can to shine a light on what's happening to him.
I'm Charles Kovacs, your moderator and Australasian passion provocateur decked out in my red jacket to spark your passion and enthusiasm.
Red being of course the colour of passion. After 20 years as a lawyer, I shifted gears 32 years ago.
And for the past 14 years, I've guided parents and lawyers in addressing vaccine injuries and medical failures.
As a CEO of an industrial hemp company, I'm driven to innovate and advocate and to tell you that industrial hemp is going to be one of the lifesavers of humanity in the future.
Our group is a dynamic blend of voices, doctors, lawyers, homeopaths, journalists, scientists, filmmakers, professors, peacemakers and bold troublemakers hailing from corners of the globe, united in pursuit of truth.
As John 832 says, the truth shall set you free. I'm sure Lee might touch on that.
Many of us once viewed vaccines as benign. Now many wear the badge of passionate anti-vaxxers with pride, awakened to new realities.
First time as you're warmly embraced, introduce yourself in the chat, share where you're from and let's connect.
Got a podcast, book, newsletter or show? Drop your links in the chat so we can amplify your work and stay connected.
If you need money for a film, David Rasnik put the request for money into the chat.
There might be financiers of films on this call or watching this recording.
We are in the thick of a global struggle. We call it World War Three with medical and scientific battles among 12 battlefronts.
Another battlefront in this war is the spiritual battlefront. Another is the legal battlefront.
Five years into this fight with more to come, there's no room for weariness. Stay strong, stay healthy.
Science we know is never done. It thrives on challenges and inquiries. Some here believe in viruses, others see them as fiction.
And many are still exploring. All views fuel our dialogue.
Our two and a half hour sessions are action oriented, spawning initiatives and collaborations from the connections we forge.
Afterward, Tom Rodman hosts an optional Telegram video chat. You can find his link in the chat.
We'll hear from our guest presenter today, Dr. Lee Vleet, followed by Q&A.
Her tradition, Stephen Frost, opens the questioning for the first 15 minutes.
Raise your hand via the reactions tab to join in.
This is a free speech haven, appropriately moderated to keep ideas flowing.
Free speech is our weapon to safeguard human liberties. If something offends you, own it.
We lovingly sidestep the outraged culture and its demands to silence truth.
We similarly sidestep the triggering industry. Don't say something that might trigger somebody.
We choose love over fear. Fear binds and sickens. Love liberates, heals and inspires.
These twice weekly gatherings are far from mere talk. They've birthed real world actions and alliances.
A key tactic in our fight is exposing medical crimes on social media, rallying behind the demand crafted by John Rappaport of medical truth now.
This call can unite humanity in a surge for accountability.
Share solutions, products or resources in the chat to empower our community.
Our meetings are recorded and posted within 24 to 48 hours on our Rumble channel.
And now we're thrilled to welcome our guest presenter today, Dr. Lee Vleet, and we value your insights.
Thanks, Stephen Frost, for founding this group and securing Lee to speak to us.
Let me introduce, let me give you a bit of background on Dr. Lee Vleet, who I've known for some years, and she's interviewed me and I've interviewed her.
And Lee, her topic today is theft of the spirit, rape of the soul.
She's an independent, preventive and climacteric medicine US physician.
Lee was an early outspoken critic of COVID-19 policies that included lockdowns, masking and most importantly, suppression of early home based treatments with older, safer medicines physicians had used for decades to treat upper respiratory illnesses.
Lee Vleet's first national editorial speaking out honestly and exposing COVID lies and deceptions began in March 2020.
And by April 2020, she was working closely in the background with US Senator Ron Johnson to provide medical information and background information to help his work on the political front to expose COVID lies.
Dr. Lee Vleet has spent her medical career focused on the relationship between faith and our health and much of her focus during COVID has been on not only the older existing medical treatments readily available, safe and very effective, but also the role of the spiritual attack playing out through the cultural upheaval and disruptions in our lives.
Dr. Vleet's talk will discuss medical issues she has been addressing throughout COVID in the faith based public charity Truth for Health Foundation.
And the website link is in the notes.
Truth for Health Foundation.
The link I'll say it now is truthforhealth.org.
And also the bigger questions we must face if we are to heal from the assaults on our civilization, such as
Was COVID-19 a real medical emergency or spiritual battle to destroy the soul of Western civilization?
Was the actual weapon not a biological illness, but the virus of fear used to break the human connections that are the fabric holding our societies together?
Judeo-Christian principles are the basis of Western civilization.
Dr. Vleet will also discuss the attack on this foundation on our societies.
And this attack is based on the teachings of the Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci, who is known as the father of cultural Marxism.
On a personal note, Lee Vleet is the descendant of Thomas Gray, who arrived at Jamestown, Ireland, Virginia in 1608, seeking religious liberty.
Thomas Gray was one of only 50 survivors out of more than 500 colonists of the starving times at Jamestown, caused by America's first failed experiment in socialism.
Had Thomas Gray not survived, Elizabeth Lee Vleet M.D. would not be alive today to continue the fight for religious liberty, medical freedom, faith and truth, and nor would she be speaking to us.
Thomas Gray, congratulations on your passion for staying alive.
And Lee, welcome and well done, Stephen.
And we look forward to hearing you and diving in with open minds, with lots of passion and relentless drive for truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.
Lee, over to you. You can share your screen as you wish.
And you're on mute. You muted, Lee.
I didn't want there to be sound intrusions while you were speaking.
So you're right. I did mute my microphone.
And Arizona is running about five percent humidity right now with a lot of pollen and dust and chemtrails in the air.
So I apologize. I've got a lot of allergy coughing, which I will also try to mute.
But I wanted to thank Dr.
Frost for reaching out to me again.
He and I connected in July of 2021, and I'll share that story in a moment.
And then I've been very busy with the foundation.
He's been busy with a lot of things and I continue to see patients.
So we had kind of lost touch and suddenly out of the blue a couple of weeks ago, he called me and I thought, well, I haven't seen that name in a while and told me what he wanted.
And he wanted he actually had an interesting request.
And for me personally, it's highly symbolic and very meaningful that the date he asked me to speak is Sunday, June 8th, 2025, which is Pentecost.
And I'll address that in a moment.
But he wanted me to speak about some of my personal journey in medicine, how I came to be doing what I'm doing, which I'm going to talk about in a moment.
I'm doing what I'm doing, which I don't always talk about publicly, but for Dr.
Frost and Charles, I thought, well, this would be a good opportunity to do that.
And he also wanted me to talk about the spiritual battle that we've been facing, which goes back to work I've done over my career.
So I'm sharing these experiences today, personally, partly because they tie into the bigger picture that we've been facing.
And as I said, I don't tend to talk about them publicly that often.
But I think in this group, it's critically important that we address that because this group is about maintaining our human connections in the face of such an assault on the human connection in an attempt to steal our spirit and literally rape our soul, our soul connection with people and life and our creative.
So one of the things that I go back to the beginning.
There was another reason which is too modest to say, but I did say that one of the reasons I connected with you is because I was thinking through all the people we've had as guests and you stand out as one of the ones with the greatest integrity.
Well, that is an honor.
And that means a great deal to me because actually, Dr. Frost, I made many choices along the way not to compromise that because and especially the last five years, I will stand before God on Judgment Day.
And I do not want to stand before God on Judgment Day and say, well, sorry, Lord, I didn't carry out your mission.
And I sold out.
So that does mean the world to me and I appreciate your comment on that.
I left academic medicine.
And I had a full time role in family medicine.
I was actually in charge of teaching the residents and director of the program of what became known as mind, body medicine, but it was integrating medicine, psychological, human aspects, relationship, environmental and spiritual.
And I enjoyed it very much, but I left that role because academic medicine was more rigid and more compartmentalized than my mind was geared for.
And I created my first private practice in 1985 called Health Strategies, and it was an independent, integrative medical practice focusing on mind, body, spirit medicine before we really used the term integrative medicine.
And a quote I wanted to share with you from my very first practice brochure in 1985 is from Pythagoras in the fifth century B.C.
The physician's task is to teach men and women the physical and spiritual laws of life and to live in accordance with God's purpose for them.
That has been a guiding principle of my entire career in medicine, and it is also related to the Hippocratic tradition, which is, of course, the oath that we as physicians took in medical school.
Although today it's much more watered down from the original Hippocratic oath that Hippocrates wrote.
And if you go back to the ancient Greek and even the time I took the oath when I graduated in 1978, it's very different today, which is quite sad.
And this is the grounding.
Some of you may not realize that in the Greek tradition, patients had to prepare for healing by going to the temple and having a ritual cleansing and prayer time before they were allowed to see the healer.
And of course, our hospitals are based on the ancient concept of a place to go for healing, but they've become a far stretch from the original Greek concept during Hippocrates' day.
And this integration of faith and our physical health, faith as a measure of our spiritual health and how it affects our physical health and our ability to weather psychological adversity and environmental stress has been an even more critical component of my work the last five years during COVID with the assault on the human spirit.
The assault on our lives, our social connections, our life, everything that we've known.
And even in the US closing the churches, while the bars and strip joints and marijuana dispensaries were all allowed to stay open.
And I never could have planned what has unfolded in my life and work in the last five years.
So a little background on how I came to be doing this COVID work because my work had been in climacteric medicine primarily, which is the science of the study of endocrine aging from puberty to menopause and late life in men and women.
It's more of an international specialty than one that is recognized in the United States as a separate specialty, but it pulls from all fields of medicine and looks at an integration of the reproductive hormones on every aspect of our health.
And I've spent years going studying overseas in that work.
So that's a little far afield from what hit us in 2020.
And in January, February 2020, I really was still reeling from the profound grief of my husband's death in early 2019 from pulmonary fibrosis and the exhaustion at all levels, physical, emotional and spiritual,
from maintaining a medical practice and being his primary caregiver at home for a number of years as his physical health had declined.
I've often described, some of you have heard me address this, I've often described grief as certainly profound grief, losing a spouse, as a boot camp for the soul.
And it definitely was that.
The best way I can describe it is it's like being on a 100 mile hike with a 70 pound backpack and slogging through a muddy swamp trying to avoid the quicksand pits.
And there were a lot of days that it felt like the quicksand was winning.
So obviously as 2020 dawned, I wanted to continue taking care of my patients.
I was finally getting a little monogio back and I was getting some of my psychological strengths back.
And after that devastating year of 2019.
Now, let's go back to the end of 2019 because it has an interesting connection with COVID.
I had just finished in late October 2019.
I had just finished the second and last memorial service for my husband at the College of William & Mary in Virginia, where he had been a vice president for 17 years early in our marriage.
And I flew back home to Tucson just kind of wiped out after that.
But got home and was hit with one of the nastiest, most severe flu like illnesses I ever had in my life.
And it really literally knocked me out for about three weeks.
I don't even remember much of November 2019.
I was that sick.
And that was highly unusual for me.
I've been active, exercising regularly, eating well, traveled all over the world, scuba dived all over the world.
I rarely got sick.
That was way out of the ordinary.
And I had attributed it to the profound grief, the exhaustion, and my immune system just co-wumped with all of that from the last two or three years.
Side note now, it wasn't until two years later that I learned that in late October, some of this will be obvious to you now, but it sure wasn't at the time all this hit.
In October 2019, I had actually been at ground zero in Williamsburg, Virginia, where military returnees to the naval bases and Army and Air Force bases in the North Campton Roads area,
those who'd been to the military games were returning from Wuhan, China.
And Camp Perry in Williamsburg, Virginia, is a CIA bases that we knew.
I mean, I'd lived in Williamsburg for 20 years before coming to Arizona.
Camp Perry was always known to be a CIA training base.
Very highly secret.
He lived in Williamsburg.
Nobody went near Camp Perry.
Well, it turns out the CIA was bringing back American evacuees from Wuhan, China into Camp Perry in late October 2019.
We learned later that Williamsburg, Virginia was hit hard at the beginning of COVID, and now I suspect I know why.
So the question, did I have COVID from being exposed to what was coming back into Williamsburg at that time?
I'll never know.
I didn't know about COVID.
There were no tests.
There was no specific treatment.
And I just did the usual things, fluid, aspirin, rest, to get over this, quote, flu, and figured it was just the result of stress.
But to this day, I wonder if that's why that area of Virginia, small town Williamsburg, was hit so hard at the beginning of the COVID illness and so many people I knew actually died during that time.
So here we are fast forward to 2020.
And I was still recovering from the physical illness in November.
Major emotional loss, a battering of the spirit, as I said, the boot camp for the soul.
And I was just trying to get through my day-to-day slog and adjusting to the absence of my husband, because of course I went from a very protected college setting where in those days women had to live in the dormitory with house mothers.
And then I was married and living with my husband my whole life.
And getting used to the absence of not only my husband, but my best friend and dive partner and actually worked in the practice for 35 years.
I was not looking for more work.
I was not looking for anything new to do.
I was just trying to survive.
But little did I know what God had in store for me and and why my crash course in pulmonary medicine to help take care of my husband's pulmonary fibrosis would be critical to God's plan.
But he would be calling me to do and shifting into treating COVID patients.
Because their primary care doctors weren't treating them and I couldn't stand by.
And I just said, God on my watch, my patients, if I can help my patients, they're not going to die on my watch.
So help me figure this out.
Then there was another odd experience.
And and I have to say, I came to quickly see this as another hand of God intervention preparing me for what I'd be called to do during the COVID years.
After a whole adult life of never having pets, dogs or cats or anything, because my husband and I worked long hours and we traveled all the time.
And we just there was just it wasn't fair to have pets.
I really needed to feel the presence of a living being in my home.
So in late November, after I got over that illness, I adopted two three month old kittens for companionship.
I had a leg injury so I couldn't walk a dog, although I really wasn't a cat person.
And then suddenly in January, twenty twenty one, my kitten brothers became very ill with FIP.
Now, for those of you that may not know what that is, it's feline infectious peritonitis, which is 100 percent fatal, fatal in cats and caused by the line coronavirus.
And my vet said, Lee, you need to put the cat down.
There's no treatment and he's going to suffer.
Well, I couldn't bear another loss coming at the anniversary of my husband's death and memorial service.
So I just scrambled to learn everything I could about FIP and figure out if there was anything I could do to save the life of this sweet little kitten.
And again, I'm convinced God guided this research.
I had no background in veterinary medicine.
And so I started digging into going down rabbit holes, looking up stuff about FIP, and I found an antiviral drug developed by veterinarian on the faculty of UC Davis in California.
It was the only drug in the world that had ever helped these cats.
From your perspective at this time, which I didn't have at that time, you'll quickly see the connections with COVID.
The drug was produced by Gilead Sciences.
But Gilead had refused to make the veterinary drug available to the veterinary market, to I mean, to the fury of the veterinarian who had developed it and the whole veterinary community that wanted something to help treat cats.
And the reason Gilead wouldn't do that, and this is all in the documents I found.
They didn't want to jeopardize the FDA approval of their human drug Remdesivir.
And of course, we all know the saga that turned out to be the devastation of Remdesivir.
So I began digging into what I could find in the reports about the veterinary drug, and I learned that China had stolen the drug, had reverse engineered it, and was manufacturing it to make it available to people around the world who wanted to treat their cats and selling it online.
It turns out one of my patients had gotten access to some to save her cat, and it worked, and she sent me some to try.
My veterinarian was interested in all I was finding out, so people doctor and an animal doctor put their heads together and started figuring out what we could do.
And he taught me what I needed to do and how to do it to treat my cat with subcutaneous fluids and vitamins and nutritional supplements to help the neurological and inflammatory damage.
And I was able to add that to the experimental antiviral that I had gotten online.
It wouldn't be for a couple more months before I learned how important all of this feline research, and I couldn't figure out why on earth all this is happening, but it was preparing me for my crash course in what I needed to do to treat human patients with human coronavirus that was called COVID.
And so, I started all the supportive care I learned to do for my cat became a critical foundation for what I was putting together to treat people later on.
By March, April 2020, I was treating some of my established patients with the early treatment protocols and suggestions that actually I first learned from reading Dr. Zalinski on Twitter at the time.
And so, that really got me started and I started digging into it and working with all of that.
But what was particularly interesting was the way in which the Gilead Sciences was really a major player in preventing access to this drug in the veterinary world, protecting remdesivir.
And that became important later on. Some will call this coincidence, and some may not see this experience of trying to treat the cat. By the way, my cat survived for a year. He got better. He got over the neurologic damage.
He got well. He was active and healthy for a year. And then he got briefly sick. I took him to the vet. And I think the stress and exposure at that, being at the vet's all day, I think that triggered.
And by the way, they did have positive COVID antibodies because I asked the vet to check it and test it. And I think that triggered what we have come to call antibody dependent enhancement syndrome.
And I think I learned about that watching how fast my cat went downhill after coming back from the vet's that day. And literally, he died in three days. And I later thought, this is something really important to pay attention to. I think he was re-exposed.
I see that again, God's hand was guiding me in making these connections and getting experience I needed. Then in May of 2021, there was another one of those. What I absolutely know was a Holy Spirit guided moment.
I was just appalled with what we were already learning about the damage from the COVID shots. I was looking at theirs. I was following it. I was reading reports that were allowed on Twitter at that point and later censored.
And I was seeing my own patients who'd been medically stable and pretty healthy. And they were going into atrial fib, never any history of heart disease. They had mental confusion, strokes.
They started to have many other complications and I was just beside myself. And I literally cried out to God, what could I do to be more help in warning people about the risk of these experimental, horrific shots?
And our public officials were lying about it and covering it up. So I already had a whistleblower that I was in communication with who said that theirs was not posting all of the adverse reports they were getting.
That was in spring of 2021. And I was at the office and one day it was as if God was in the room speaking to me. I didn't hear a real voice, but it was as if it was a voice sound saying, Lee, you have the foundation activated.
This is the time. A few days later, and I went and checked the documents, I'd forgotten about the public charity Gordon and I set up in 2007 for a different war in medicine in the U.S.
And we got approval from the IRS and six months later, the economic crash of 2008 hit and we just couldn't take it forward at that time.
And I thought about the scripture in Habakkuk. Write the vision, this is chapter two, write the vision and make it plain for the people to follow, which I had done in 2007 in writing the vision for the public charity that we set up.
Because in Proverbs it talks about without a vision, the people perish. Back to Habakkuk, God told Habakkuk, and if there is a delay, wait for it, it will come in time.
God made me wait 14 years for the time that was his time for the foundation, but May 3rd, 2021 was 14 years to the day that I had filed for the EIN of this foundation.
And I kept it alive all those years with the IRS filings. So then I was reminded of Isaiah chapter six, verse eight, when Isaiah says, and I heard the voice of the Lord saying, whom shall I send and who will go for us?
And then I said, here I am, send me. And I realized that the vision God had given me for the foundation in 2007 wasn't meant for that time.
Of course, I was type A plus, so I was terribly impatient with the fact that it didn't get going when I thought it was supposed to be.
But I had to burst out laughing when I finally realized that God said, okay, I'm going to teach you patience.
You've got 14 years to wait before you're going to activate this foundation that I inspired you to set up.
And I have to say my own growth in medical knowledge, wisdom, patience, and faith was much greater 14 years later than it would have been in 2007.
So I had to chuckle at the humor that I saw in God's timing.
That encounter spurred me to the action that has guided my work ever since.
And it was that encounter that has brought us to this fourth anniversary of nonstop work for the Lord's mission of saving lives across America and for those around the world that have accessed our resources.
Defending and defending human and civil rights because we've done a lot of work on the legal defense side as well, thanks to our donors.
And those rights are secured by our God-inspired Constitution in the United States, and the IRS allows with charity to give grants to defend those rights secured by law.
And our efforts to really expose the evil assault, not only on human life, which we've seen everywhere, but also on the life of the entire planet from animal life, plant life, insect life, the bees are dying.
It's everywhere in the very life of the planet's environment itself.
And we've provided a big platform for our persecuted military service members to have a voice when they were being persecuted under the cloak of military secrecy.
And we've provided a big platform for them to apply for legal defense grants for civilian lawyers when their JAG lawyers were not defending them.
And then a month after launching the foundation in terms of actually having the governance in place and board of directors and all that's required, July 2, July 2, 2021, I was asked by a US colleague I'd worked with for about a year, Dr. McCullough,
to meet with these three doctors from the UK and Canada, Dr. Stephen Frost, Dr. Mike Yeaton, and Dr. Roger Hodkinson.
I had no idea why I was asked to meet in this small group of five, but I was very eager to meet Dr. Yeaton because he had been inspiring to me when I first came upon his video on Twitter with Dr. Wolfgang Vodarg when they talked about the potential for reproductive damage from the covid shot.
So I knew if these shots were damaging the ovaries and testicles, we have a huge problem because it would affect every other aspect of our health.
That had been my work for 40 years.
So as soon as that we had that meeting and Dr. Yeaton shared that not only what he'd presented with Dr. Vodarg, but he'd found a new discovery that pharma research had identified damage to all animal species tested 12 years earlier, damaging the ovaries and testicles of every single animal species they tested.
And they went ahead with the technology anyway.
And of course, Dr. Yeaton was apoplectic because his point was that was intent.
And the fact that they knew it would damage reproductive potential is just was just very chilling to me.
And I was stunned.
I knew immediately why I was asked to be part of that meeting.
And once again, I felt the hand of God had put me where I needed to be to learn what I needed to know to help patients.
I really was one of the few people in the U.S. doing this work.
And in terms of integrating reproductive hormones with all aspects of health, because remember, I said I was interested in reproductive health.
Not gynecology or urology.
So I'm not a surgeon.
I come at this from an internal medicine perspective.
And I'm taking what's taught in reproductive medicine in the surgical specialties and applying it in the medical applications to other organ systems.
And it all hit me like a lightning bolt.
And basically, I was in the hospital.
And it all hit me like a lightning bolt.
And then Dr. Frost, Dr. Hodgkinson and Dr. Yeaton explained that the reason for the meeting was they really wanted to start a stop the shot campaign.
But they had been turned down by the two medical organizations they had approached.
And I said, well, you're telling me it's causing reproductive damage.
And I know why I'm here.
I'm telling you it's going to damage every organ system in the body if you damage the ovaries and testicles in humans.
And so we will take your campaign forward.
And that was July 2nd.
And one month later, Truth for Health Foundation launched the first of many international press conferences.
And all of the there were like 17 international speakers at that first event, which was broadcast on LifeSite News.
And we were also working with some of the Catholic groups that were just appalled that Pope Francis was pushing the COVID shot.
So that's why it was so significant that Dr. Frost called me out of the blue.
And we really hadn't talked for the last three years.
I think Charles said my last talk with you guys was in 2022.
I didn't realize so much time had passed.
And he wanted me to speak on July 8th, sorry, June 8th, which is Pentecost.
And he wanted me to talk about spiritual battle.
And I thought, wow, he wants me to address the effects of this orchestrated, intentional, well-planned attack on the spirit and the soul of people around the world.
And this is Pentecost Sunday.
Now, for those of you that may not follow what Pentecost is all about, Pentecost was the occasion 10 days after Christ ascended to the Father.
And this was the 50th day after his crucifixion, when Jesus' disciples were together praying and waiting for the promise of the Holy Spirit.
And then it happened, as recorded in Acts chapter two, verse two through four.
And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.
Then it appeared to them with divided tongues as of fire, and one sat upon each of them, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.
So Pentecost was when God poured out his Holy Spirit on the disciples and charged them with preaching the gospel around the world.
And it's literally not only for us as Christians, but actually for all who benefit from hearing the gospel.
It was the day that changed the world, not only as a historical event then, but it's God's promise that the Holy Spirit is available to us today, as I've shared with you, I've experienced in many ways and times over my life and career.
We just have to choose to listen for his whispers and signs in our lives and choose to act in faith and heed the call.
So let's look at that a little more closely.
Prophets had foretold for centuries that the course of humanity would change completely through the outpouring of God's Holy Spirit.
In fact, in Joel chapter two, the Old Testament prophet,
And it shall come to pass afterwards that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh. Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions.
And on my men servants and on my maidservants, I will pour out my Spirit in those days.
But just as we see around us, there's so many parallels for what we've been going through in the last five years.
The truth tellers, the medical truth now, the medical truth tellers and truth tellers on other fronts have been mocked and demonized and persecuted.
And that happened with people mocking Jesus disciples, calling them drunks.
Yet Peter's words touch the people.
And that day, when the Holy Spirit descended on the disciples, 3000 people repented and were baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit.
Following that, the disciples acted in the Holy Spirit. They healed the sick, preached the gospel with boldness, cast out demons and saw crowds come to faith.
The disciples acting in the Holy Spirit to spread the gospel has had an impact that has been felt around the world for over 2000 years.
And I think what happened at Pentecost with the despite disciples actually bears a strong relationship to what many of us have experienced.
Many of you are here today as part of this group, because in one way or another, you've been called to speak and treat people who are ill from this medical and spiritual attack on humanity.
We called it COVID-19. And I'm not going to debate the pros and cons of what it actually was.
People were ill. People were ill from many causes, but not the least of which was the spiritual attack.
And I think many of you, whether you are actually consciously acknowledging it or not, have actually been acting at the guidance and direction of the Holy Spirit and perhaps empowered with his wisdom and power.
When you answered the call to be medical warriors during this COVID era, in spite of the risk that all of us have faced to be truth tellers and to warn the people, which is what God told Ezekiel and called Ezekiel to be a watchman on the wall.
And I'm paraphrasing Ezekiel chapter three in verses 17 through 21.
And I say, God told Ezekiel, you are to warn my people with the words I give you.
If they don't listen, their blood is not on your hands.
But if you do not follow my command and warn the people as I direct you, their blood is on your hands.
So I think many of you, as I've also felt called to do, have actually been watchmen on the wall, whether you relate your actions to what God told Ezekiel to do or not.
And you've seen yourself, maybe you weren't thinking about it in the spiritual light, but I think you've been serving in that role, or you wouldn't have been speaking out as many of you've been doing over these last five years.
You would have just sat quietly like most everyone else did, including members of our own profession.
And if you really want to set me off and get started, start talking about what the medical profession has done in my country to betray their oath to patients.
It makes me livid.
So as we delve into what I wanted to share about COVID as theft of the spirit and rape of the soul, let's consider the question briefly, because we've done a whole program on this and there you could speak forever on this topic.
I want to briefly consider the question, what is evil?
Why have I consistently as a physician, not as a minister, not a pastor, described COVID as a spiritual attack by the forces of evil unleashed on humanity?
What led me to say that?
Well, we go back to the book that I read in 1988 by M. Scott Peck called People of the Lie, The Hope for Healing Human Evil.
And in that book, Peck shares what his eight-year-old son said when Peck asked him what is evil.
And his eight-year-old son said, Why, Daddy, it's live spelled backwards.
And bingo, he defined evil as any words or actions aimed at killing the spirit of life in another person or being.
And this is exactly what we've witnessed in many events throughout our lives, but more calculated, more organized, more diabolical and more clearly done with intent through COVID being used purely as an evil intention to weaponize fear,
break the spirit of people around the world, which in effect is a rape of the soul.
And it's even worse because people don't really realize that's what's happening until they've just been so battered they have no will to live.
And that was part of the dramatic rise in suicide in these last five years.
And it also breaks the connection between people and severs the soul connection with our Creator.
So the end result of killing the spirit of life is that people become isolated, depressed, suicidal, more prone to substance abuse, domestic violence and physical illness.
And all of that takes lives.
Whether you profess to be a Christian or whether you don't practice any faith tradition.
We can't deny that the foundation of Western civilization are the Judeo-Christian teachings regarding the sanctity of each individual life, the sanctity of our God given liberty to live as a free human being, and the God given rights of the ability to own the fruits of our labor,
which is enshrined in our founding documents as the pursuit of happiness.
But our founders really meant the pursuit of individual ownership of property, which has never been the tradition down through human history.
It is this foundation and the human connection woven together to make the tapestries that have held our societies together as civilized societies throughout our history that has been under this intensive, organized, diabolical Machiavellian attack over the last hundred years in particular, but escalated during COVID.
It actually began in the modern era with the first Marxist communist revolution in Russia by the Bolsheviks overthrowing the czar in 1917.
But that same time frame in America was the eugenics movement led by Margaret Sanger, whom the left in America just have sainted as the founder of Planned Parenthood, which is, of course, an assault on life.
But it was also Woodrow Wilson as a member of the eugenics movement.
It was also the Marxist movement in America and in Europe and later in Latin America, as the Jesuits were taught some of the Marxist theories that co-opted Catholicism at the time in Latin America and developed liberation theology, which has come to be known as social justice.
And I want to share a quote with you from Antonio Gramsci, the Italian Marxist theorist and known as the father of cultural Marxism.
And this goes to my point about the foundation of our Western civilized societies as being founded in Judeo-Christian beliefs and values.
And Antonio Gramsci said, quote, The civilized world has been thoroughly saturated with Christianity for 2000 years.
Any country grounded in Judeo-Christian values cannot be overthrown until those roots are cut.
But to cut the roots, to change culture, he went on to say, could not be done by confronting the institutions in a frontal assault, but had to be done as a, quote, long march through the institutions, end quote.
In other words, by infiltrating the institutions and corrupting them from within.
He acknowledged that that had to take place before the Western societies could be overthrown.
And he saw that our governments and institutions were only an outer ditch.
Behind which was a robust and sturdy civil society held together by shared values and social connections that were especially strong in churches and synagogues.
He believed that the conditions in Russia in 1917 that made revolution possible there could not materialize in the more advanced Western capitalist civilizations based on Judeo-Christian values that included the value of individual life, the value of individual liberty, and the value of owning property.
And I think one of the things that we've come to see and appreciate is that one of the ways that cultural Marxism has invaded our Western society and destroyed our core Judeo-Christian foundational values is to diminish the value of human connection that is at the core of civilized society.
So what have we seen the emphasis be? And I've seen this over my adult life change it dramatically.
Going from a culture that valued human connection where churches were important part of our lives in America and in communities across the country, we see an emphasis on materialism, on self-awareness and self-development and focus on you and yourself.
Look at all the people taking selfies. I mean, they celebrate it like there's nothing else out there.
Focus on possessions and accumulation of possessions.
And then that has morphed into the whole DEI ideology, diversity, inclusion, and the way in which merit is destroyed and individual uniqueness is destroyed.
And the focus becomes on race and gender and political identity. All of the things that America has always stood strongly against and our founders would be turning over in their grave if they saw what was going on.
And this intense focus on the self breaks the human conditions. And these are what hold the fabric of society together.
And that leads me to what I wanted to address. And if you'll bear with me, I have a little bit more I wanted to share with you before we open it to question and answer.
Keep going, Lee. Relax. As long as you need.
Okay. Thank you, Charles. Because I really wanted to pull all of this together in an integrated way. So thank you for giving me the time to do that.
This goes to these attacks on the human spirit and human connections is well described actually in an incredible book that I read in 1994 and have reread a number of times since then.
Theft of the Spirit, a Journey to Spiritual Healing.
That's interesting because this book was actually written by a German born Yale trained psychiatrist, Carl Hammershleig, whose family escaped Nazi Germany to come to the US.
And he graduated from Yale trained in psychiatry and after residency, he was sent to New Mexico to fulfill his military obligation working as a physician for the Indian Health Service.
And I just had chills when I read his book because he came to the southwest from the rigidity of the East Coast medical tradition, just as I had.
And I came out to Arizona in 1992.
And I had met a Native American medicine man in 1993.
Had the privilege of starting a journey of studying with him.
And in 1994, I found Carl Hammershleig's book.
And at that time he was living in Phoenix and actually he worked at the Phoenix.
He became so enamored and learned so much with the Native American medicine people and healing approaches that he stayed and worked most of his medical career in the Indian Health Service.
That wasn't his plan. I mean, he went to Yale, for heaven sakes.
It was not his plan, but he really because he died in 2022.
And if you haven't read his book, I really encourage you to read it.
It's just really powerful.
He was also a proponent and teacher of psycho neuro immunology, which I had come upon in north of Virginia before coming out here and before I knew about his book.
And this is the name that Western scientific medicine has given to mind, body medicine.
It's amazing how all these little pieces of the tapestry that God wove in my life and career have come together in some pretty incredible ways.
And I also were studying and using those concepts in my practice in Virginia before coming out to Arizona.
And psycho neuro immunology says the body, body, mind and spirit are chemically connected and that what you know matters less than what you feel in your heart and spirit.
In different words to describe it.
It's what Jesus taught in the New Testament in his healing ministry and what the great Welch physician who became one of the greatest Anglican preachers of the 20th century, Dr.
David Martin, Laurie Jones, and he preached in London throughout the war years.
He's a remarkable man.
I have a number of his books and he taught similar concepts in his sermons.
In fact, he wrote a book called Spiritual Depression, which I also read early in my career that greatly influenced my own practice of medicine.
He talked about as a physician, he used the example of pernicious anemia causing such a problem that it could tap the spirit and lead to depression that people mistook as spiritual depression.
So he talked in great detail about how the physiological influences the psychological and spiritual, not just the other way around.
So again, reading Dr. David Martin, Laurie Jones books, if you're interested in the integration of faith and health is a profound experience because he was a physician who had a road to Damascus moment and God called him to leave medicine and go into ministry.
And literally he's considered one of the greatest pastors of the 20th century.
And it isn't that those who were studying and working with psycho immunoneurology dismissed Western medicine.
What they pointed out was that Western medicine, scientific medicine was not enough and may not be the most important criteria for living effectively.
It's what's happening in our soul and spirit that has a bearing on our psychological and physical measures of immunologic strength.
Look at what happened during COVID.
What happened to suppress the immune system of people going through the last five years?
Isolation.
Attacks on social connections.
Attacks on their ability to get together in churches, in their communities, the school connections, family connections.
People were fractured in their families over different political beliefs about what was going on.
And it's very clear that a wealth of medical studies, scientific studies over most of my career have shown unequivocally that we can cope better with whatever life throws at us in mental and physical and relationship and environmental stresses.
If we are not frightened and fearful and mistrustful.
And that's why I think the biggest weapon that was used was the constant drumbeat of fear that we were hammered with and still are.
I mean, this Australian variant of COVID, if you read the news articles, it's all about churning up fear.
It's the same playbook all over again.
And Charles is right. We should laugh at them and mock them like Saul Alinsky taught the radicals to do.
And we really need to understand that we see this around us today that what our cultures have valued in terms of symbols and rituals and myth that sustain us, that carry on traditions from one generation to the next,
means the culture is moving into a culture without morality.
We have become focused on expediency and profit rather than morality.
Values are replaced by objects.
And morality is deteriorating in our Western societies much more rapidly than even the physical planet.
And any of you that have read some of the Hopi Native American prophecies about the ending of the planet, the Hopi see us as in the throes of an extinction spasm.
And living in Arizona, studying with the Native American healers, I've read the Hopi prophecies.
And what I find interesting from my Christian foundation is that the Hopi prophecies actually track amazingly well with the biblical prophecies in both the Old and New Testament about the destruction of civilization and the environment as we approach the end times.
Reading Isaiah and Daniel and the other Old Testament prophets.
And I did a systematic study last year going through all of the books of the Bible, the Old Testament, major and minor prophets.
And I was just stunned at the parallels with what we see today.
I hadn't done something quite so systematic in the past.
And living through COVID, it was just incredible.
And it's also parallel with what Jesus described in Matthew 24 and John later described in Revelation.
I just find all of these prophecies from thousands of years ago track incredibly with what we are living through.
And another example of the ancient prophecies that are tracking with what we see going on right now is the intentional geoengineering destruction of our planet.
This is all documented in extraordinary depth on geoengineeringwatch.org.
We've done a number of programs with it.
I've had Dame Wigginton on to talk with us.
And recently, those of you living in the UK were just subjected to the British government has given a multi-million dollar grant aimed at blocking the sun.
The life-giving sun.
I think I can't remember the figure, but it was over 65 million.
And I'm not sure whether I misread it.
And it was 65 billion.
But it's all part of that effort.
The dimming in the documentary that geoengineeringwatch has posted, which you can watch for free.
And it's powerful.
I've watched it.
We presented it for our Faith Over View seminars.
And Bill Gates is behind a lot of that.
Now, this man-made deliberate weather modification to block the light of the life-giving sun is euphemistically called solar radiation management, because that's the way they obscure its evil intent to kill life.
Theft of the spirit of life.
Those with a spiritual view, and I happen to be one of them, will see this metaphor for blocking the light of the sun, S-O-N, of God, to sever our soul connection with our Creator.
In the arrogance and hubris that man knows better than God how to design and influence the environment in which we live.
This is transhumanism on steroids.
And ultimately, we've done some programs on transhumanism.
And ultimately, the simple definition of transhumanism is it is a spiritual attack by the forces of evil on God's design of life.
You can put all kinds of words around it that you want, but that's the bottom line.
And blocking the S-U-N documented on GeoengineeringWatch.org and other experts who warn about SRM and the dangers is leading to the elimination of half of the species on Earth and the extinction of our natural environments that are ecosystems that we depend on to live.
And we can know we cannot be indifferent to the disappearance of these life forces because it's going to affect all of us.
So I think today in the COVID era, we are seeing the Hopi prophecies, the biblical prophecies align with the Hopi prophecies, and that civilization has become more and more impoverished.
And loss of the spirit is more and more profound.
The rise in suicide, the rise in drug use, the rise in people numbing themselves with psychotropics.
All of this is a manifestation of the spiritual, physical, and psychological sickness that is pervading our cultures.
And I do think that this spiritual, the theft of spiritual meaning and the theft of our spirits is really affecting life for all of us.
And I think it's also something at the core that we see in medicine today.
Physicians have been taught to focus on protocols over patients.
They've been focused on profits and incentives for vaccination, profits for the large group practice, profits for the hospital, profits for the insurance carriers, and denying care patients need to focus on guidelines, protocols, and procedures rather than what the human being before them needs.
And they are more focused on the technological and scientific than the human connection.
And over my 40 some years in medicine, I've watched the erosion of the patient focus taught by Hippocrates, Sir William Osler at Hopkins, founder of the internal medicine department at Johns Hopkins, where I did part of my training.
And all great physicians who practice the art and science of medicine focused on the person.
And studies have shown unequivocally that this loss of meaning and human connection in medicine is a large driver of physician burnout and the rise in physician suicide.
Let me give you just one example.
There are so many. We spent hundreds of hours trying to do hospital rescues of patients trapped in the hospitals on the COVID death protocol.
I pulled together teams of doctors and nurses and lawyers, and we worked tirelessly to help save patients.
We didn't have a lot of success because the hospitals were just absolute tyrannical prisons and medical murder was going on.
In fact, we had one press conference called White Coat Killers, and I meant every word of it.
But there's one example of such an egregious change over my career.
My own medical school, Eastern Virginia in Norfolk, Virginia, was founded on being the school that would be unique and teach based upon human dimensions in medicine
and train physicians who were compassionate, competent and caring.
So in other words, all of those qualities were part of my training as a medical student.
And they had formal programs on all of that.
And I taught at that medical school early in my career.
That was their mission.
And sadly, they've gone the road of so many others.
They've been corrupted by NIH grants and government guidelines and insurance guidelines and all the rest.
This is the medical school that fired Dr. Paul Merrick, one of the world's leading pulmonary medicine clinicians,
researchers and had some of the most it was one of the most published positions in pulmonary medicine in the world.
And he founded the FLCCC, leading the national effort in the US and the world on proper care for COVID patients in the ICU.
And he was treating patients with ivermectin and saving lives.
Eastern Virginia Medical School, my school, fired him for saving lives.
I was outraged.
And in fact, I changed my will to take them out of it because I was so angry at what they did to him.
Now, obviously, I didn't have the kind of assets that's going to make any difference to them financially,
but it sure made a difference to me in principle that I would not support it.
So I think that's where we are.
And how do you how do you turn this around?
How do we turn it around?
I think the only way to begin to see with new eyes is to confront the reality of the experiences we're having in the here and now.
And rather than trying to make sense of it, tune into our heart, our soul, our spirit.
And in my view, guidance from the Holy Spirit to look at it with new eyes to appreciate this is a spiritual battle at its most fundamental.
And listen to the spirit.
And it's I truly believe it's in those passionate leaps of faith propelled by our own spirit that we as humans move forward.
Safety of the known, while it's more comfortable, ultimately leads to boredom and stifles our experience of life.
I was in some way scared to death when we were closing the practice in Virginia and moving all the way out west to a whole new life.
And half of my income was suddenly canceled and I was the breadwinner for her family.
But I knew in my soul I was supposed to be in Arizona in January 1992.
And my husband encouraged me, said, Look, I don't know what's going to come.
But I believe with you that this is something you need to do and we'll make it work.
So for six months, I was half time in Arizona and half time back in Norfolk, Virginia, trying to salvage the rest of my practice that we just announced we were closing until things had grown to build a full time roll out here.
Turns out the hospital that canceled part of the contract went into bankruptcy later, but I didn't know that they didn't tell me.
And we just had to walk in faith and jump off the cliff and try it.
And you can go back to the quote from a pollinare in ancient Greece about come to the edge.
No, no, no, I'll fall.
Come to the edge.
No, no, I'll fall.
I can't fly.
And she being the mother eagle pushed the babies, and they flew.
And I have that quote framed in my office because that was how I felt in the move out here.
So I think all of these things are things that we can choose to focus on and tune into in the tune out the chaos as one person at the beginning said he shot his TV.
35 years ago. Well, that's a great thing to do.
And I can't say that I've done it but I turned it off in 2020, and I've had it on very little except for some of the more spiritual programs and meditation and music and scripture and beautiful video visuals.
And that helps to nourish my spirit. At a time, I feel under assault with the work that we're doing.
So, I think for all of us, whether we've been conscious of it or not that what really fuels the human spirit are things closer to hope and belief and love and faith, then to intellectual certainty.
Absolutely.
And the things of our spirit are the things that nourish our physiology as well and help to nourish our brain and immune system and all of this.
And then we go back to the question that conscious pilot asked Jesus at the trial.
What is true.
And I would say, I think we should perhaps consider that truth is always closer to what we feel in our hearts and sense in our intuition, and what we know in our spirit and soul, then what we are told intellectually, the body knows a whole lot more than the mind chooses to
acknowledge. You can read the biology of belief, and you will see the science behind what I just said.
And if we ignore what we feel long enough, it'll ultimately steal our spirit and rob our soul and take our lives.
That's what millions of people were experiencing during the COVID lies and deception and fear mongering.
And what many, for many people, what they knew in their hearts and felt in their gut screaming at them and what their intuition was telling them, and what their spirit was trying to communicate was often ignored to follow what the media was screaming at them and what the government was telling them and what doctors were lying and telling them, even when it didn't make sense.
And we still see it today.
So, as we come to where I wanted to stop the program today, and we consider the theft of the spirit.
I'm going to give you a few questions to ask yourself.
And not to answer here, but to answer in a quiet space.
At home, without distractions and intrusions.
What is the health of my spirit?
Have I kept my moral compass?
And if not, what can I do to restore it before it's too late?
Do I keep to the path with heart?
That is my course that nurtures my spirit.
Or do I try to follow what is expected of me from the pressures of the culture around me?
We do the latter.
We will surely lose that soul connection with our purpose in life and become fatigued spiritually, psychologically, physically, what we call burnout.
And I'll be the first to admit I have days like that myself.
It saps the spirit.
It attacks our souls.
It feels like how do we keep going against this?
It never ends.
And I'll share with you several scriptures that help me renew my faith and my energy and my focus.
First from the Old Testament prophet Isaiah in chapter 40, verse 29 through 31, which is one of my go-to passages.
Quote, He gives power to the tired and worn out and strength to the weak.
Even the youth shall be exhausted and give up.
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength.
They shall mount up with wings like eagles.
They shall run and not be weary.
They shall walk and not faint.
End quote. And that's from the New International Version.
And then in the New Testament, the words of Jesus in John 14, 27.
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give you.
I do not give to you as the world gives.
Do not let your heart be troubled and do not be afraid.
And then one of the other big ones that has sustained me, especially since 2019 and through this COVID work,
from the apostle Paul in his letter to the Philippians.
And I believe I'm correct when I say that he was in jail, when he in prison, when he wrote it.
It's Philippians 4, verse 13.
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
So as I close this talk on this meaningful day for me, Pentecost Sunday 2025,
I'll come back to what the Bible tells us that the power of the Holy Spirit was not just for Christ's disciples then.
It's for all of us today.
And it doesn't matter who you are, whether you're young or old, a new believer or just coming to the Lord,
or been walking with the Lord for years.
The Holy Spirit wants to work in our lives.
He wants to guide us daily and help us share the power of the message of Jesus with the world.
So I encourage you to be open to that.
We all have access to it, and we have to make the time and space and stillness to hear it.
So if you have felt the evil assault of what's been going on, particularly seriously this year or in the last few years
and are overwhelmed by the forces of evil, if you don't yet experience the Holy Spirit,
I would encourage you to study some of these passages in Acts and some of the others that I mentioned
and pray for the Holy Spirit to fill you and guide you because he does do that.
I've experienced it so many times.
So when our history is written, let it not be said that our civilization died because we allowed the theft of our spirit.
There's still time to change our choices.
And I want to thank Dr. Frost and all of you in the audience today for this opportunity to share
what we consider at Truthwell Foundation, our vision of medicine and ministry for the whole person, mind, body and spirit.
And it's just been a pleasure to be here. So thank you very, very much.
Thank you. Thank you so much, Lee.
And that last note that you said, my second book is called Passionate Performance,
your keys to mental, physical and spiritual well-being in business.
And because I love alliteration, my first book is called Passionate People Produce.
And while Stephen gets ready with his questions, I've adopted...
I am ready, Charles. I am ready.
Okay, good. Well, be patient. That's another P, patience.
And so you give us another spot of alliteration with the three P's, Lee, of profits and protocols, then patience.
Profits and... or profits and protocols prior to patience. There you are.
There's four P's. And that's what's happened to doctors,
as we've heard in the meetings that we've had here, and the disgraceful behaviour of many, many doctors whose attitude is,
my payment, my mortgage payments are more important than my patience.
Yes. My mortgage is more important than my patience.
So I'm going to jab you because I don't want to lose my house.
I don't want to lose my house. And we've seen that time and time again.
And that's why we're fighting. So thank you so much for the beautiful reminder.
In the next 15 minutes is your Stephen.
So Lee, I don't know whether somebody had a word with me in my sleep.
Your name came up about two or three weeks ago, and I was absolutely right.
And we actually agreed on something that we haven't talked about.
You and I haven't talked about rape of the soul.
I mentioned to you and you understood what I was talking about.
And I think I told you too that people were saying to me, don't say that, Stephen, that's really harsh.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
But actually we need to know what the truth is in order to solve the problem.
So what I wanted to say, Lee, I think you're a brilliant speaker.
You're a fantastic leader because you lead by example with your integrity.
It shines through you. You're just amazing.
And I think it's fair to say and I think you might agree if you start to think about it, you're a very good doctor.
But you're an even better philosopher and you're a philosopher for our times.
So I don't think you should underestimate.
I think we all need encouragement, even you.
And I certainly need encouragement.
But I'm not very good at getting it.
Not that I realize that I have to say the truth, my truth.
And that makes me a little bit unpopular in some circles.
Some people like me.
If people don't like me, it's tough on them.
But as I'm not as spiritual and into theology as you, you know, but I recognize what you're talking about and I absolutely recognize what you say.
There are so many people who think that the whole thing about Covid climate change, Ukraine war, it's all about facts and it's all about science.
But it's all about perceptions in a time of mind control.
So actually, if the mind control cancels everything out, so we need to understand that we're not very good at perceptions.
We're a little bit better than the average.
But we, you know, we struggle with discernment.
As you say, we need to be humble and we need to kick the arrogance and hubris of which which you can see in spades with both Trump.
So I've been a big supporter of Trump in this last few months.
Trump and Elon Musk, you know, I did warn that Elon Musk has no wisdom.
And, you know, the way they behaved in, I think it was Friday of this last week, absolutely astonishing that Elon Musk thinks he's so rich and so amazing that he can attack the presidents of the United States.
It's nothing personal, but the office of president and he talks to him, you know, as you talk to anyone else.
And so he thinks that because he's so rich, he can behave like that.
Similarly, Trump also thinks that because he's so powerful, he could he doesn't quite get it that you don't don't get into a fight like that in public.
And so I wonder what you might have to say about the spat between those two.
But I think you're a great leader, Lee, and and you're a fantastic philosopher.
Well, thank you so much, Stephen.
I really appreciate it.
I appreciate it. And I was I was so it really came out of the blue when you called.
And yet we immediately connected on these important topics.
And in some ways, as if we had picked up where we left off July 2nd, 2021, in the conversations we had through that summer when we were doing all these press conferences to stop the lead the stop the shot campaign.
And if if some of you haven't seen those early press conferences, I'm really proud of the work we did because it was truly an international effort with speakers.
Dr. Sukharib Bhakti, Dr. Roger Hodkinson, Dr. Mike Eaton.
There were there were so many speakers from all around the world that participated with us and the Protestant Catholic Initiative of working with LifeSite News through all of that.
And of course, now so many other organizations are taking that battle forward, which I'm very grateful for because it requires an army.
And someone made the comment about this is our Normandy.
We did a whole program on that, actually, because and we just came through remembrance of the 81st anniversary of the invasion of Normandy.
And it's just absolutely devastating to think about all of the young men who raced onto those beaches, knowing they may not make it off and how many did not.
And yet they kept going anyway to try and save Europe from the tyranny of the Nazi juggernaut.
But Normandy was the beginning of the end of tyranny.
It wasn't the end.
And there was a long, difficult, high cost in lives and material and people, resources, all of that ground war that still needed to be fought.
And that's exactly where we are now.
People have talked about, at least those of us in the United States, whatever the flaws, and I'm not going to get into debating those, but whatever the flaws are about President Trump, we had no option to save this constitutional republic.
If we had continued under the previous Democrat, Marxist, communist destruction of this country.
I live 80 miles from the border.
This border invasion is terrifying.
And it's part of the reason that at this later stage of life, I literally had to invest in these trained protection canines because the crime has risen so much.
And I'm very grateful for our Second Amendment rights and the constitutional carry in Arizona.
And the fact that although I've had a concealed weapons permit for decades, for more than a decade, the fact that we have to think about those things even more is just a devastating assault on civilized society.
Our city has changed in ways that are unrecognizable.
And sadly, this is one of the sanctuary cities where our city council and law enforcement do not follow federal law or our constitutional law either for that matter.
So we we we needed that change, but this is a battle that's going to take place over years to undo the damage.
So I just want to draw the parallel with Normandy.
The person who made that comment was absolutely right.
Yeah, absolutely.
I agree with what you just said that at the moment, Trump, flawed as he is, is the best one for the job.
He's a fantastic leader.
He's got a heck of a lot of things to do if he's going to be successful in saving America.
And I can't see anybody else who can do what he's doing.
Well, no. And in my lifetime, we've never had a businessman who was globally successful and understood the incredible difficulty of working in other countries in a very difficult business of real estate and construction.
I mean, I've traveled to many countries over my lifetime and I've seen a lot of the Trump properties in other countries.
And I've tried to let me just comment.
My husband and I tried to get I mean, we dealt with a residency application in Chile and Panama.
And we were looking at options overseas, just dealing with that bureaucracy and all of those obstacles was overwhelming.
I can't imagine trying to deal with building a hotel or a golf course in a foreign country.
So I think just looking at the business reality, America in my lifetime has never had a businessman become president of this country.
And we need it at this time.
So, yeah, sure.
So he's a real estate mogul.
I think you can describe him as.
But actually, without him realizing it, maybe without him ever mentioning it in any way, he's a project leader and a project leader has to be open to all possibilities when trying to solve a problem.
And the problem for him in the past has been getting a building built funded as well, obviously.
But actually, it was preparing him for this moment.
But there are a lot of other businessmen who don't seem to come anywhere near what Trump has achieved.
I mean, it is amazing, but he's flawed as well.
You know, he needs help.
And the best advice to give Trump is that he needs to remain as humble as he possibly can, which is going to be very difficult for him.
But he's got some great points and and Elon Musk has got some very good points, but both of them need advice and they need the truth.
They remind me of kids on the playground in the sandbox.
And, you know, you're right.
They just need to grow up and remember that they are on a global stage and don't say what first comes to mind.
But something else I want to comment on.
I watched this man change in 2015.
And I don't know if you've thought about it, but in the 70s, there is a developmental stage where people begin to, and this is pretty typical across the board,
where begin to consolidate their lives, look back on their lives, look at what they've accomplished, look at what they want to do in the remaining time.
And the development, the years of the 70s are often the developmental stage in psychology that they talk about finding meaning and purpose in life.
If you hadn't been looking at that before.
And when you look at the caricature of Donald Trump from the media and then you look at what he was saying and talking about when he decided to run for office in 2015, I was watching it pretty closely because I hadn't decided who I might support.
And I was very worried about what was happening with the open border under Obama years.
Again, I'm Arizona. I'm ground zero.
And I began to see something different in him.
And I said to my husband at the time, I said, I really think he has had a sense that he has a calling to help restore the America that has given him so much.
Well, fast forward to July 13 in Butler, Pennsylvania in 2024.
And I think that was his come to Jesus moment.
And the millimeters that spared his life.
There is no question he said it.
I'm not interpreting, but he said it.
And I studied the videos.
There's no question in my mind that he was absolutely right.
The hand of God spared his life that day.
So that we had a chance at keeping the divinely inspired constitutional republic that our founders were led to create.
And he has been a different man.
He has been more humble.
He has shared the stage more with more people.
I've watched the body language.
I've listened to the words.
I've watched a lot of the press conferences.
He's a different person.
And I think that moment where he was just millimeters away from having his head blown open on live TV like John Kennedy, President John Kennedy had.
I think it changed him.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think.
And he actually says that in his inauguration speech.
So I would recommend everybody on the call to have another look at the inauguration speech because it was so surprising, at least to me.
Yes, the United Kingdom, that he was actually going to say the things he did on the first day.
And he just kept on.
So I think one of his greatest qualities is that he can destroy his enemies.
So there are plenty of people who have good ideas, but they're not ruthless enough.
I don't particularly want to be like Trump, you know, as far as I do think he's very good at praising people for their loyalty, encouraging people.
He has become that anyway.
And but he's brilliant at killing his enemies.
And that's very important to the politician.
And so and and that gives him courage.
I think he can protect himself from his enemies.
And he knows that very few people in the world can stand up to a Trump onslaught, and especially when he's president.
Well, I think you're right.
But I want to give people a chance.
Very carefully for signs of losing his plot, you know, going overboard with his own propaganda.
But I think he's he's on the right side of the.
Lee, I wanted to ask you about the mice experiment that I asked you about.
Did you have time to look into that the universe 25 experiment?
Yeah, I was.
So we got some water.
Yes, Stephen, would you come back to that?
Would you see what one of the people would like to ask in the way of questions?
Sure.
While I'm coughing.
Yes, very good.
So Charles, David Rosnik, I think, is first.
Yes.
So, well, Stephen, you're it's it's close to just while Lee's coughing, David, ask your question.
But Stephen asked a question.
So you got two questions, David.
You.
Well, I've been fighting corruption at the academic institutional level since the late 1980s.
A lot of people know because of your program here.
And but I've come after all these decades to the conclusion that the that our our government, the politically significant institutions are they're not fixable.
They're rotten to the core.
And I'm also of my conviction is they should not be fixed.
They need to be replaced.
And that goes back to what you and I talked about, Leopold Kaur.
Wherever something's wrong, something is too big.
And I don't think these gigantic institutions like the federal government, the United States and things like that are fixable.
And I don't think they should be fixable.
But I think I'm all for separating the states.
My personal instinct right now here in the United States, as the state level may be a reasonable size to deal with.
And so I don't even want the United States to be fixed in the sense of going back to where it was because it can never work, in my opinion.
And I'll just leave it at that.
But before I finish, I just want to say that Dr. Vleet made a magnificent presentation, went right right to my core.
And I just want to thank her for that.
OK, I'm done.
Well, thank you, David.
And actually, Stephen, you made an interesting comment.
And I wanted to say that, yes, all of us, myself included, do get tired and battered and discouraged at times.
And your request for me to do this particular topic on Pentecost Sunday actually was a great refocusing spiritually for me as well in preparing for it.
So I'm appreciative that you ask and appreciative of this particular day as the date you picked or God picked in speaking to you in the middle of the night.
Well said. Well said.
Beautifully said. And God works in mysterious ways.
Stephen, you're 15 minutes up.
But I'll finish that question that you're asking, Lee, before we go to the next question.
Well, this Stephen, why don't you tell people what you were talking about with the mice experiment?
Well, I have talked about it quite a lot, so I don't know, bore people.
But mind you that you've got quite a few of your followers here.
A lot of names I don't recognize.
So the mice experiment essentially, I'll try and do it in one minute.
It was in the 60s.
I haven't gone into depth on it because I'm a little bit apprehensive about what I'll find.
And, you know, what do I do with the information if I actually confirm what I think?
But I think that the mice experiment maybe was a preamble or a precursor, if you like, to what happened in 2020.
So it seemed to me that the mice experiments were about studying the effects on civilizations in mice, obviously.
But obviously they're doing it in mice because they thought they could extrapolate to human beings.
And my what I heard about it, which was very interesting with my insights, you know, from the last three, four years, you know, five years now,
but then three or four years was that they it seemed to me that the mice lost the will to live.
So some mice, male mice, didn't want to have sex with the females.
And the females noticed this and took picked on the males, you know, the males in the group that aired, should we say, in their view.
And and they took essentially the whole of mice society broke down.
And when the population was declining after, you know, getting larger, they had all the food they could eat and they had very good living space to begin with.
But then, of course, because of the overcrowding, because mice very good at breeding, of course, they like got increasingly difficult and they started to die.
And then they continued to die. And the experimenter got down to 150 from maybe 10,000.
I can't remember the figures. I've even seen the figures.
But he said he predicted that those hundred and fifty, whatever he did, they would die.
So I thought to myself, that's very interesting.
Those mice have lost the will to live through the nightmare of the overcrowding.
Or, you know, and the breakdown of society.
And then I thought, I wonder whether the mice.
I also heard universe 25, the 25 referred to 25 times the experiment was repeated.
And they were very careful to say it was one experimenter.
And I thought to myself, I don't think you repeat an experiment 25 times.
So I thought it was 2025, you know, for a long time.
And so I just thought that the idea was it seemed to me that the covid thing was exactly like it.
So they created conditions where they made human beings fearful.
They isolated them, which was a precursor for the fear, if you like, or to accentuate the fear.
And so essentially what they were trying to do, in my opinion, was trying to remove the spirits of human beings,
the rape their souls and essentially to cause them not to want to live.
And human beings, if they don't want to live, they will die.
Well, Stephen, you're correct on those studies in your summary.
And what's interesting is that I haven't read the studies at least.
So I've made it up in my mind.
I'm just relating what I think.
Well, I actually was working with one of my biology professors at the College of William and Mary as an undergraduate and during my master's work.
And he was doing those population studies of mice and looking at what happened to their physiology.
And behavior in the crowding as the population became more crowded for the cages.
And not only did we see the things that you're describing, Richard C. Terman was my professor's name, and he had been doing that work for some time.
I was a student lab assistant working with him.
And he was what they also found, which is fascinating in light of what we've seen, particularly in the last, under the last decade, let's say,
will actually began in the Obama administration to really escalate.
But what they saw in the mouse populations, and of course, I was a student at William and Mary, and I was a student at the University of Michigan,
and I was a student at William and Mary before medical school.
So it's obviously a while ago was that in the crowding of the population, they also began to see more of the homosexual behavior, males mounting males, females mounting females,
and and attacking each other and cannibalism of the young.
So there were a lot of behavioral abnormalities that were described as well as the things you talked about with the animals losing the will to live.
And you can see that.
Look at the many reports of a family that has pets that are close and one animal dies and the other animal may act depressed and becomes isolated and withdrawn,
losing their companion.
I saw that with my cats when the two brothers who played all the time, the little one ultimately died of the coronavirus re-exposure,
and the other cat kind of moped around the house for months and for two years would not go up to the top of the cat tree where the little one had slept.
It's fascinating. So it applies to animals as well as all that we've been talking about today.
The loss of the spirit, the loss of connection is true of animals as well as people.
So the point in what I'm saying is, is that did they plan to do what they did in 2020?
So isolate human beings.
So people talk about the injections as the worst thing.
I think it was the isolation of human beings, which was absolutely the worst thing.
And it needs to be brought out.
I agree with you. I think this was long planned.
There's lots of evidence to that.
And Peter Brigham's book discusses it.
I found papers going back 20 years earlier, and I know many of the people on this call have seen the evidence of the longstanding plans for this.
And I think that absolutely the campaign of fear, they knew exactly what they were doing.
And that goes back to the mind programming of MKUltra and CIA experiments that go back decades.
So, yeah, I think I don't think there's any question that all of this was planned a long time ago.
So do you think that they weaponized the mouse experiments, whatever they learned?
I think we maybe should look into that together.
Oh, I think I think those and many others from the basic sciences.
Well, look, Dr. Yeaton pointed out that essentially they weaponized what they learned from the animal experiments on the mRNA use of the lipid nanoparticle coating.
They learned the research was done 15 years before launch of the shot and published 12 years before that.
And Mike Eden sent me the one of the papers he found.
They did. They weaponized that.
They went forward with developing the platform that they knew would attack the reproductive organs.
Yes.
Yes, go ahead, Charles.
Yeah, that's I think that's Stephen.
It's worth, you know, having a meeting on that topic because you keep raising it.
Okay, let's let's do that one day.
The other thing that I put on your agenda, Stephen, is I think we should organize a debate because you keep raising it on whether or not it's possible to have a pandemic.
And, you know, I think we can do a program on that.
Let's get two people on either side or someone to present it.
But they're two two topics because you've been talking about it so often.
I think it's worth focusing on.
All right, Albert.
And then we've got Sebastian and Daria and Glenn and Meryl.
And we're finishing in 35 minutes.
So, Lee, you're good on keeping your answers tight.
Albert, welcome.
Welcome the eagle.
Dr. Vliet. Hi. How are you doing?
I'm so appreciative that you are a good, strong Christian woman.
I come from some good pedigree myself from Calgary Church here in San Jose, California.
So, but I do want to ask you, I have a very narrow lane, which is bears.
I wanted to ask you a bears question because you had said that you had found out early or were told early in 2021 that not all reports were being published.
And that has been my main soapbox that I've been screaming since Bobby Kennedy came to our church on June 19th, 2021, which was basically around a week after that famous Dark Horse podcast video with Malone Kirshen Weinstein.
But anyways, it wasn't until later on in that year when Zach Stibert from Epoch Times got that foyer about the communications between General Dynamics and the CDC and the Bears people.
So it was the monthly kind of reports back and forth.
And I was, I feel like I was the only one capable at that time to like be able to roll the odometer back and see how many reports General Dynamics was saying, yeah, we're coming down.
We're processing them. And yeah, we're caught up. We're not.
There is no backlog based on these timestamps that I'm looking at.
But my question is, I had not heard anybody say that reports weren't being published until Bobby said it on stage on June 19th.
But then I was able to corroborate Bobby and go, yeah, Bobby, you know, I'm doing all the calculations and there should be at that point in time when you said that 150,000 reports had disappeared.
I, in my calculation, there could, there's room for at least 200,000 reports that should have been in Bears as a snapshot way back then in 2021.
So my question, I don't know if you can answer it, but who who told you who knew that?
Well, I am under a confidentiality agreement not to reveal the name, because this has been a confidential whistleblower from the inside.
It came to us in 2021 and she, this person is also has been a whistleblower on some of the legal cases that we've worked on with various law firms.
But she was on the inside is on the inside and had access to let's just say government data sources as part of her role.
And I have to be careful what I say because I can't risk identifying her.
But I was, I was introduced to her or she learned about me through our work and our press conference on the shot.
And we were looking at Bears and she reached out and then I connected her with several of the lawyers that were working on this.
And there were, Bears was actually failing to post reports.
And we could actually through her work and her access with her job, we could actually show reports that were given case numbers that were then no longer able to be found.
So there was a lot going on behind the scenes, which she was able to show us and the lawyers, Warner Mendenhall was one of the law firms that is still there's still some cases in in litigation on this.
So I do have to be careful about it. But it's very clear that there was a lot of manipulation.
Now, to the extent that we were allowed to be public with some of our information, we did do whistleblower reports on it.
And we did present that. But it was another one of the things that I was attacked for saying because people, oh, no, our government would never do that.
Well, yes, they did.
Just like the hospitals lied. Excuse me. Was that before June that you already knew that they were not publishing all reports?
No, because I had not started the foundation until June 2021 and not reactivated it.
I'd been writing editorials all through 2020, doing media interviews, speaking, treating patients and all of that since the beginning of the COVID era.
But the foundation work didn't start until June and we didn't do our first press conference, stop the shot campaign that we launched.
We didn't do that first one until August 4th, 2021.
So it was in the time frame from August through September 2021 that this person reached out to me.
And then by October, I had connected her with some of our attorneys, Todd Callender and later, Warner Mendenhall and some others.
Well, Dr. Vleet, I love you. We helped build the beast here in Silicon Valley.
And believe you me, we're going to help bring it down here in Silicon Valley.
Well, that would be great.
All right. Thank you. Thank you, Albert. I like the red t-shirt, mate. I love it. I love it. I love it. Join the red club.
OK, Sebastian.
Good evening from Switzerland, Dr. Lee.
And thank you so very much for connecting your profession with your passion and with Christ, with your with your faith and belief.
This is something that I find that not very many people do in our professional world anymore, and especially not in governments.
So thank you for standing up with your faith.
I would just like to quickly comment on the mice topic that Stephen picked up because there is my co-commitators arrived.
I love your cat.
Thank you. And her brother died with the same sickness that your cat died, and she also went into mourning for about four months.
So I feel for you.
The mice experiment. There was also a doctor, a professor actually, called Bruce K. Alexander, who had a mice experiment or it was called the Rat Park.
I believe in Canada in 1978, and he laced water with cocaine or heroin and the mice or the rats went to the water.
But this was alone. This was an animal that was alone.
But when it was given other companions, they didn't and they had normal water.
Also, the rats or the mice did not even touch that water.
So he means that they don't. Addiction is actually the opposite of addiction is actually connection and not addiction.
So that was very, very interesting.
So I just wanted to comment on that and say thank you so much, because this was unbelievable.
This evening was really fantastic.
Well, thank you so much. And, you know, that's a profound statement that connection is the opposite of addiction, because so, so many people over the course of my medical career, because I've had to deal with this in patients.
Even if I was not practicing addiction medicine, I've had a lot of patients with substance abuse disorders.
And you're right. They in part, they become addicted to the substances as part of the search for meaning and purpose and connection.
And they're trying to find something that means something to them.
And they think it's going to be that external thing, that external drug, the gambling or sex or whatever the external thing is.
And and yet it's that loss of connection at the core.
And then there are physiological things. I had a 25 year old man that whose mother asked me to do an evaluation, and he had been in multiple psychiatric facilities for addiction and substance use and depression.
And none of the physiological factors that contribute to that had ever been checked in lab tests. So I said, well, I'm not practicing in this field, but let me at least do a comprehensive medical workup.
Was it turned out some of the drugs, alcohol is a big one, SSRIs or another, had made him hypogonadal. He's 25 years old. He had a 200 testosterone.
He had multiple vitamin deficiencies, including all of the ones that are involved in the brain pathways to make our neurotransmitters that regulate mood and energy and drive.
And so we ended up getting him on a path of nutrition and vitamins and testosterone and hyperbaric oxygen.
And and then I referred him to a psychotherapist.
And it was just astounding because he went from an isolated frail, thin 25 year old guy who didn't make eye contact to a healthy young adult male.
When you put all the pieces together and through the therapy work, helping him establish that sense of connection with people in his life again, along with the physiological variables.
It was a great example of what Dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones talked about in his chapter on the psychological and physical and spiritual dimensions of depression in the book Spiritual Depression.
So I agree completely with you. I think that's a great comment. Thank you.
Good job. And I remind people of the big four human needs and the two extras, the big four are.
Certainty and variety.
And then secondly, significance and connection.
So certainty, variety, significance, connection.
And then the other two, five or six are growth and contribution.
But interestingly, it ties into this question of connection and need to connect and hence the power these days of gangs.
Because institutions and particularly churches have lost their credibility because of their failure to stand up for their principles.
And so yes, games become that connection, don't they?
So it's a lovely, lovely reminder. Thank you, Sebastian.
The opposite of addiction is connection.
And if you can't get connection, then you get addicted. Beautiful.
We're moving 25 minutes, Daria, then Glenn.
Charles, can I just say that Zahriyel Sebastian in Switzerland, he is influential in the Duran.
And so, Sebastian, I noticed that you get on very well with Dr. Lee Merritt and you I think you could do very well at interviewing her at the Duran.
Dr. Lee Merritt or Lee Vliet?
Oh, sorry. Sorry. I meant Dr. Lee Vliet.
I appreciate that much.
Happy to do it. Happy to do it.
Yeah. So Sebastian has a great cat, but he's a great interviewer if he feels like it, I think.
I would enjoy it.
Beautiful. I have a friend who says that cats rule the world.
So there you are, Daria.
Yeah, Lee, thank you so much.
I was just as I was walking my dogs, I was listening to this.
I was getting good.
And it's warm outside. You just really hit on all cylinders here.
I was thinking what what popped into my head as I was walking the dogs is a friend of mine and a few other places that I get information from have been sharing all kinds of warnings, I suppose, about different products or practices.
And I had this skeptical sense that each and every one of these were almost a way to distract people from perhaps blaming the complications of the genetic injections.
So I think that's a great question.
I think that's a great question.
And I had this skeptical sense that each and every one of these were almost a way to distract people from perhaps blaming the complications of the genetic injections.
The one I got this morning was about Botox.
And that Botox gets into the nervous system and it causes Alzheimer's and ALS.
Well, it didn't take very long to look on ResearchGate to find papers about motor neurone disease and dementia developing after COVID shots, the mRNA injection.
So I think this is happening a lot with a lot of different these news blasts that come out, TikTok videos and things like that.
And I think the level of psychological distraction from focusing on every potential cause, I call it, you know, sort of a failure of differential diagnosis, is probably the last ditch effort to try and perpetuate, I'm sorry, perpetuate the vaccine culture and convince people to keep taking shots, to keep giving their pets shots.
And yeah, we jumped off that train quite a while ago.
So, but have you been dialed into seeing that or have people sent you things?
Absolutely, Darya.
We've actually done a number of programs on the brain inflammation related to specifically the COVID shots because the technology was designed to cross the blood brain barrier that lipid nanoparticle coating means it crosses the blood brain barrier and we've done whole programs on that.
And the frontal lobe syndrome is so evident all around us today with everything from people not being able to think clearly, difficulty making decisions to depression to balance problems, judgment problems, road rage, you see it everywhere.
And this disconnect, the people that, people I've, look, I have long connections with my patients. I have patients I've had as my patients for 30 years and still see them.
And people who got the shot are different. I've known these people well over many, many years. And it's staggering. The difference in cognitive processing, the difference in emotional connection, there are just so many things.
But that's true, not only of the COVID shots, you look at the SSRIs and the SNRIs, the psychotropics that are given out like vitamins by primary care doctors and even specialists.
Gynecologists have more psychiatric meds in their sample closet these days than hormones. That's how bad it's gotten. And those are drug reps that visit other doctors' offices that tell me that.
But the SNRIs, the SSRIs, the atypical antipsychotics that they give out like crazy, the gabapentin and so many of these others, anticonvulsants, mood stabilizers, they all dampen down brain activity.
They all have neuroendocrine effects. That whole class of drugs can suppress testosterone in women, alter menstrual cycle ovarian function in women, sorry, in women, and decrease testosterone production in men.
They increase prolactin, but doctors aren't checking that for men. So they don't see the hyperlactin. They don't even know about the SSRI effects. Statins cause changes in the brain by pushing cholesterol too low.
They cause hypogonadism, pain medicines. Marijuana is a phytoestrogen. It suppresses testicular gonadal production. That was part of the problem with that 25-year-old young man.
I mean, it is everywhere. And Dr. Bregan and I just did a whole program on, and some of you may like this supplement, but I'm telling you, there's a hell of a lot of risk with it, methylene blue.
Methylene blue is actually a potent monoamine oxidase inhibitor, which is a chemical that served as the pharmacologic basis of the MAO inhibitor antidepressants. Bayer developed it years ago.
And it actually has multiple drug interactions, food interactions, herb interaction, and it's a potent stimulant. And people who think that they are feeling better are actually ending up contributing to, I mean, it's a newer of toxin.
And hardly anyone promoting it is talking about that. It's very frightening to see all of this. So, Dari, I agree with you. I think it's very widespread. I think it's all by design.
I think it goes to a spiritual attack, the social isolation, breaking the human connections. All these things that we just talked about that are pharmacologic agents, whether they're supplements or whether they are pharmaceuticals, these are designed to break the human connection, people to people, and sever the soul connection with God.
Exactly what I was talking about today.
And on that same line, since we're talking about the nerve central nervous system, which is like my thing anyway, I was in psychedelic research and pharmacy school back in the early 80s, before I went to med school and neurosurgery.
But the latest happy face being put on psychedelics for treating PTSD.
Oh, yes. Oh.
And I brought this up before in some of our Zoom calls. It just doesn't feel right. I got a bad feeling about this. Everything I know about psychedelics from back in the early 80s and doing animal research with it, this is really bad. And yet you got people like Joe Rogan and everybody.
Oh, I know.
You know, Joe Rogan had people jumping off a cliff if he told them to.
Well, I'm very concerned about it.
Although it's not my field of practice, for years I was a national speaker on psychopharmacology and the risk.
Many of these drugs cause an a kinetic depression and an a motivational syndrome. And it's exactly what we are seeing among people. They are over medicated.
The field of psychiatry has gone so overboard on medication doses. I am shocked at the dosing of these drugs. And I get patients on this stuff and I'm looking at the medical side of things and trying to get them off of some of this by identifying nutritional and neuroendocrine and other deficiencies and drug interactions that haven't been looked at.
And it's a long ordeal to slowly taper them down and then read between the lines in what Alex Jones is describing as his experience with methylene blue. It's exactly what cocaine and methamphetamine addicts talk about.
Yep.
And it's acting on the same pathways. Methylene blue potently affects monamine oxidase and all of the neurotransmitters through the dopamine and norepinephrine pathways so that you're getting the artificial stimulation that's the same mechanism as these other what we call street drugs.
So it's a very alarming trend and I see it as all part of the war against humanity. People who are now promoting things, they have no business promoting, they have no bad opal background, they're not giving any cautions and helping people understand low doses aren't the solution.
Avoidance is the solution. And they are getting people, and particularly in all the people who've gotten COVID shots that are even more at risk of these problems. The brain damage alone from the COVID shots is absolutely staggering.
So I do what I can to try and educate people, but we've been so censored. Shadow banned on X even today. Our emails are blocked, our website is attacked. We've been really hurt badly with attacks on the foundation's work.
And someone said it earlier, the more you're doing God's work, the more Satan will try to attack you. That's exactly right. So I don't have the big platform that some of these others have and it's hard to undo the damage, but we do the best we can and today was an opportunity to talk about it.
So thank you for bringing that up. Thank you very much. And we're doing it here. Thanks Daria. Glenn. Hi Dr. Lute. Hi Glenn.
You've described a range of things, a lot of deep corruption in very big organizations and big structures and to some extent you've identified that you think it will take a long time for it to be corrected even with a strong spiritual forces in place.
I'd like to propose an alternate hypothesis of much quicker and hear your sense of that and whether you've considered that and what you think might be the probability of this alternate, much faster reaction.
And for that I use two different items. One is the various Bible descriptions that if one looks at the 17 books of prophecy or the 22 letters from the apostles, one will find the reference to the day of the Lord throughout all of them.
And that generally is described in those portions of the Bible as a rather rapid purge of the evil and wicked.
In addition, if we look at where all of the forces that have been coming on us for many decades of which you referenced many within the pharmacy world and within the university world and within the medical training world,
virtually all of those have been driven by a set of small number of high level, very elite players. At the head of that is the Rockefeller family together with George Soros, Bill Gates and his eugenics father, and Bill and Hillary Clinton with their deep state linkages.
So if we within the spiritual world and with our political connections were to focus on just going after the head of the snake, that small set of players and remove them and what they have done in both killing, bribery, blackmail,
as creating this monstrous crime syndicate without that set of money and without that set of control at the very top, wouldn't that crime syndicate in fact collapse in rapid order?
Well, Glenn, I think you're exactly right. And actually, this is something we've talked about. And it seems so crystal clear that there are these few players that you're talking about.
And I can't explain why they have not gone after them other than to say that cutting off the head of the snake may take longer preparation, which I do think there are some very, very strategic initiatives taking place behind the scenes that we can't know yet.
That are setting the stage for that. I just don't think we're there yet. In fact, I said it in our newsletter that went out today.
These things have been built over the last hundred years. I don't think we can expect four months under the new administration to turn everything around overnight.
They've been working at breakneck speed. They've been doing a lot more than I thought was possible, a lot faster than I thought possible and a lot more strategically.
In fact, it's very interesting. Attorney Jeff Childers had a newsletter not too long ago where he did a comparison of how President Trump is using his cabinet in a very cohesive, organized, strategic way to undo the damage that Franklin Delano Roosevelt had done with his use of the cabinet in a very strategic manner.
In fact, it's very interesting that Trump is using the use of the cabinet in a very strategic, organized way to just totally take over the Constitutional Republic and turn it into the progressive nightmare of the Federal Reserve and the IRS and the New Deal and all of that.
I thought that's a very important insight.
And I'll go back to something Stephen said a little bit ago about, and I don't want to spend too much time on this, but I just want to make an observation.
Elon Musk and President Trump are two brilliant men. They're very powerful men. This behavior that we've seen recently is really out of character for what I think both men have at the core of patriotism and desire to help restore America as it should be.
And I have to wonder, is this part of theatrics as a distraction? Because you'll notice Trump is brilliant. I've watched this the whole time he's been in office, first time and this time, and the intervening years.
He is brilliant at baiting the media and using that as a distraction. So I will just pose the question for you to think about and watch unfold.
Is this another theatric planned as distraction? Because what it does is also help put distance between Trump and Musk after the 130 day time period had been met.
I find it very interesting for the timing of it and the apparent vitriol because I just don't buy it. So that's something to think about.
All right. Thanks, Glenn.
Thank you very much.
Good job. We've got two more questions then Stephen and then we're finishing. So Meryl and Mark, leave your short answers because I know you have to go as well.
Let's go Meryl. Great to see you. Great to have you here. Unmute yourself.
Unmute Meryl.
I'm muted now.
Hello, I'm Dr. Meryl Hawley. I'm the doctor of science. I'm the president of the International Hyperbaric Medical Foundation.
Oh, wonderful.
And the former president, Steve Reimers, is on this call as well. He had invited me to join and to meet with you all because he said that he felt that we would be kindred spirits, which I immediately felt or I wouldn't have invested my Sunday afternoon stay.
Oh, do I want to talk with you? I'd like to have you come and do a program for us.
And I was I actually bought a hyperbaric chamber, the home unit to help treat my husband and had it in my practice for others. So I was trying to learn as much as I could as fast as I could.
So I'm thrilled that you're here and I'd love to connect. I put my email in the chat.
I saw that and I have the largest hyperbaric chamber in the world in Dallas.
Wow.
Yeah, we have the largest environmental medical complex in the world there and enjoy people coming in, over a thousand people a month coming in from all over the world, and for treatment options that they have nowhere else.
One of the things that is disturbing that I've been seeing, it's the widespread use of the methylene blue now, and which again, as you had mentioned, an MOA inhibitor and see the serotonin toxicity from it.
We've used methylene blue for 50 years in the judiciously for things like, you know, people that have been exposed to high levels of oxidizing agents and, you know, using it in the zone to reduction, the pharmacological peak.
And but, you know, it works extremely well for certain things like reversing carbon monoxide poisoning, along with high pressure hyperbarics like 3.0 ATA.
They, you know, to break the irreversible covalent bonds with carbon monoxide. What we do and what my specialty for the past 50 years as an environmental toxicologist has been in chronic low level chemical exposures.
And the interesting, yeah, they, they fancy that my specialty I've ever grow up will be in the epigenetic regulation of gene expression.
And everything that you've been talking about from neurotransmitters to the neuro neuroendocrine imbalances is all predicated upon whether the correct genes are switched on or whether they are down regulated.
And at the time that they are supposed to be. And then, you know, you can look at this from a very didactic biophysics standpoint.
And I perceive it as strictly as biophysics as opposed to anything medical.
And, you know, and they cannot be fixed with any form of logical agents.
So we've enjoyed, you know, just tremendous success over these past 50 years.
You know, reversing these conditions, the, the neurotoxicity that we have seen over the years is profound and the severing of that mind body connection.
I've lectured extensively and you can see, you know, a lot of my probably a hundred of my papers on my ex account under my name and the things that I want people to read.
One of the things that is very, very pertinent and I wrote a paper called the parallel infection cycle, SARS-CoV-2 in January 2020, which you'll see that posted to my ex account as well.
And curiously, front and center of it is that dynamic of antibody dependent enhancement.
And so it's everything that you've discussed today is actually, you know, right in the middle of what we do and what we've done.
And, and this is, you know, I do anti-aging tissue and organ regeneration.
And for the past since 2001, we have been centered on neuro regeneration, specifically neuro regeneration.
And which of course, you know, all of the neurological damages, all of aging is simply a function of biological aging, not chronological.
And so you can, and taken from that contact.
Merrill, could we get you to come and speak to us on HBOT?
Oh, certainly.
That would be, we've been talked about HBOT. Mel Hooper, I work very closely with here in Australia and who knows Stephen Reimers, I'm sure you know Malcolm Hooper in Australia.
And we've talked about HBOT, a lot of people here have had exposure to it.
And I think your knowledge on this, Merrill, will be of great, great value to spread amongst the world, this group, but also the world.
It would be my honor.
So, Merrill, you can have next, wait a minute, let me just think.
So tomorrow, Sunday, next Sunday or next Tuesday you can have.
Next Sunday should work for me.
All right, yes.
I don't think I'm scheduled in on Sunday. I try to not do anything on Sunday, but this is fun.
Yeah.
So we meet twice a week, we have done for four years, and we're not just medical doctors.
We've got PhDs, we've got economists, we've got everybody, we've got plumbers, we've got a primate expert in Borneo.
And, and I think that's the strength of the group. It wasn't a strategy.
I just thought, you know, what do I need to do at this time in 2021? And that was what was obvious to me, but I didn't know why.
But now I understand why, because you have to have a group like this and it has to be international to get to the truth of what happened in 2020.
Indeed. And, and it does take, you can exponentially expand your capabilities by having the correct people in your circle.
Absolutely. Yeah.
So we invite people so people can join this group.
There are no limits, but they have to be invited by someone in the group.
And so I think we've got about 2000 members a week around the world.
Yeah.
Charles, huge resource.
Yeah. I've been doing hyperbarics since 1972. And my friend, Stephen Reimers, who, you know, who invited me to this call today has been in the game longer than I have been.
David, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So, um, um, uh, Steve Reimers is just spectacular.
And, uh, but there was a whole lot to this. I, if you share your contact data with me, please.
So my email address is my email address. Have you got a pen?
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
Through the chat, Stephen.
Oh yeah. But the trouble is that it's difficult to you. So Stephen with a pH dot frost.
Stephen with a pH dot frost at BT internet.com.
And that will get to me, Merrill. And if you would like Stephen Reimers to come with you next Sunday.
Wait, what.com?
Sorry, BT internet.com.
So Stephen dot frost at BT internet.com.
You have Lee Bliots, Dr. Lee Bliots email address.
It's in the chat. It's in the chat, Merrill.
Okay. Yeah. I'm going to post my, uh, my email address on, um, on the chat. So.
Very good. And so I will contact you. But we'll say next Sunday at 3pm, uh, New York time. Is that okay for you?
Um, yes. And, uh, and you can bring Stephen Reimers on as well if you'd like.
And I'm in Dallas. So that's central time. So 2pm for me.
2pm. Yes.
Yep. Beautiful. And, um, yep. One week from now. Beautiful. Put your email address in there, Merrill. That's excellent. All right.
That's wonderful. Stephen Reimers, thank you for organ, organizing that. And Stephen's with us because someone, I can't remember Stephen, who recommended that you come and join us.
But it's wonderful that you're here because HBOT is a wonderful, wonderful resource.
Well, I have to give my thanks to Susan Downs for that.
That's right, Susan. Susan's a member of the group. Yep. Thank you, Stephen. Thank you. Yep. Thank you, Merrill.
Marv quickly then, Stephen, because we're over our two and a half. Good job, Merrill, on your 50 year HBOT.
Yeah, I wanted to. Well, I've been next week. I have a question. Tetrahydroisoquinoline. That question for Merrill Hawley. I'm sure he's aware of it.
It's found in the brains of alcoholics and heroin and meth addicts. Tetrahydroisoquinoline.
But anyway, Dr. Lee, I want to ask you, you know, I've been doing this since 1966 in Vietnam and Agnew and Nixon's silent majority.
Then we went through Vietnam. Then we went through 9-11 and then we went through the.
Over and over and over and the same the same evil people are always going to be there.
What gets me, you know, the Nazis of 1930s Germany were silent about the attack on the Jews and the gypsies and the disabled and the gays and the Slavs and silence about it.
Now we're doing that. The fucking Israelis are doing this final solution thing and the same thing is happening.
We are quiet about what in the hell is going on. I mean, this is I've watched this my whole life.
COVID was the same thing. Now could people swallow a gigantic turd like that?
And my grandkids are all vaccinated by their parents and every time I think of it, I just want to scream.
These little two-year-old grandson vaccinated. Now his father now has thyroid cancer.
I mean, it's just what in that? How can we be so fucking ignorant about this stuff? Thank you.
I have an answer to that question. It was a planned experiment at population reduction.
You guys are forgetting about the fact that if you add 5G cellular radiation at the right frequency to the COVID, you have people just dropping dead randomly.
Nobody can figure out why. Yep. Well said, Stephen.
So, Marvin, it's good to hear that you get excited in Oregon because as far as I can understand, Oregon's pretty woke.
Yeah, Marvin, it's good to see Marvin passionate and he's only 80 years of age.
So he's got lots of experience to share with us over the journey, Marvin. So stay passionate.
Keep you young for years to come. Stephen, last couple of questions.
Stephen Frost, last couple of questions because we're over time and Meryl, thank you so much for your contribution and Stephen Reimer's and Lee.
Sorry, Stephen Frost, show us your face and then we'll get to a close.
Yeah. So, Lee, thank you. Sorry for calling you Lee Merritts, by the way.
That wasn't the first time I've done that, but it was no disrespect intended.
The opposite. But anyway, I don't know what is the most important.
So I feel that, you know, it's very you've obviously prepared very well for this presentation, Lee.
Not everybody takes their presentation as seriously as you.
I'm not putting pressure on you, Meryl, in any way.
But but I think Lee had great things to say, but she kind of knew that she had these great things to say.
Maybe after that telephone call, Lee, we kind of connected and you took your opportunity.
And this is what we need to do. We need to identify what we're good at.
We need to talk to people and maybe sometimes seek encouragement from the people we know well, you know, because we all need encouragement.
And we need to know ourselves in these times of this crazy craziness has gone on since 2020 in particular, at least for me, it's been bad since 2020.
So I think we need to know ourselves in order to to do the things that we can do best, you know, and we need to ask other people sometimes not in the way of kind of bigging yourself up,
but just to know ourselves better than we most of us do, because I think people go through their entire lives not understanding who they are.
And therefore they don't get they don't make the impact that they could have made.
So I think this is really important. We need to kind of tap into your kind of power, Lee.
I think you saw your chances. You understood what was going on.
And, you know, it may be that God hadn't, you know, we don't know, really, do we?
But but the point is that you took your chances. You encouraged yourself in the way and you created your own luck.
I think it's very important. And so the most great look at Trump, the biggest political comeback ever anywhere in the world.
No doubt about it. And whatever thing, whatever you think about Trump, you know, he is pretty remarkable human being.
And I think we need to learn from him. I've been watching him very closely since in particular 20th of January.
I've been looking for signs of inauthenticity, unauthentic behavior.
I think he is authentic. I think he's there warts and all for us all to see.
He's absolutely brilliant at destroying his political enemies when he actually wasn't in politics before 2016.
So I think we need to open our minds, forget the forget all the showboating and the arrogance and the certainty which you see so often.
And open our minds, be humble, take our opportunities and recognize points in our lives when we need to think big, a bit beyond us, you know,
and think what are the possibilities at this stage and what are my responsibilities when in my case I'm the father of three children.
Who are my biggest opponents, by the way, three boys.
So anyway, thank you so much, Lee. If you'd like to add anything, I think also you have a huge advantage, Lee, because you know the Bible.
And you said yourself, we're defending our Western civilization, if you like, for lack of a better term.
It's not just about America and UK and France. We all have this kind of this in common Western civilization, whether you'd like it or not.
You know, we need to think about what we want and we need to fight for it.
And that means I think we're defending.
And you are the Bible, Lee, and I think you're absolutely right in saying that we discussed this when we talked a couple of weeks ago,
that everything in the Bible and you know, it's founded on Christian principles, whether you're a Christian or not.
And so I think anything you'd like to say, we'd like to hear.
Well, I just thank you for your comments. Thank you for the invitation.
And thank you for attributing my efforts to my success.
But I'd just like to comment, everything I've done since 2020 has not been in my power alone or my mind or my energy.
It has been guided by the Holy Spirit.
And I come back to that Philippians statement that Paul made.
The things I do, I do in strength through Christ who guides me.
And a lot of days coming out of grief, profound grief, I didn't think I had the strength to even keep going, much less still be here to do all of this work.
I attribute that to God and on Pentecost, acting in the Holy Spirit is what guided my work to prepare this talk as well.
So thank you for the opportunity, Stephen.
All right. Thank you, Lee. Thank you, Stephen. Thank you, Meryl, Stephen, Ryan, as everybody else, Dario, all of the commentary, Glen.
And when I remind you, Stephen, that Julie will start the meeting on Tuesday night because I'll be flying to I'll be on a plane to Berlin for the Tuesday session.
I will be able to get the invitations out. And that's the game plan.
All right. You're on your own, Stephen.
So we've got I'm trying to remember who it is we've got on Tuesday.
Oh, actually, we haven't got anybody on Tuesday. I've got to find someone.
Yes. All right.
Julie will will will post the invites, but I'm getting on to a plane at 1045 p.m.
So there you are. Thanks, everybody. Great to be with you.
Have a wonderful Tuesday, Sunday or Monday.
See you then, Lee. Great job.
Everyone. Thank you.
Or go and support it and also support David Rasnik's film.
If you want to get in the filmmaking business, check that out as well.
That's in the chat and remember to save the chat with the three with the three dots.
And Lee, which is better, Virginia or Arizona?
Oh, my. Well, I love the four seasons in Virginia.
I hate the humidity and the cold.
So I'm I'm very happy with the drier weather in Arizona,
but I don't like being this close to the border under this chaos.
So it's but this is where I was led to be and I need to be here.
So I understand. Yeah. Thank you.
And also one last question. Jerome Causley, do you know?
Do you know him? Yes. Yes.
Oh, you do know. I mean, we have not met personally and we have not connected directly.
But of course, I know his work and I have followed his work for a long time.
I can introduce you to him.
So maybe he'll be interested in commissioning a book from you, Lee.
Oh, that would that would be wonderful.
I have seven consumer books. If you look up my name, they're they're on Amazon.
Or if on our foundation website, because I donated inventory to the foundation
so the charity can benefit from selling them.
Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you all. God bless.
Where are you going, Charles, on your travels?
Berlin for industrial hem conference. Yeah, very good.
Safe travels, Charles. Thanks, everybody. Thank you.
Which airline do you fly on, Charles?
World's number one airline. I'm supporting the Islamic community by flying Qatar.
All right. And the reason why I fly Qatar is because things work on the world's number one airline.
You know, you don't get failures. Is it the world's number one airline?
It is. All right. What plane will you be? What planes do they have?
Big ones. That's a good question, Stephen.
That's I'm trying to remember.
Boeing. Boeing.
Boeing 7 is actually long hauls.
Seven long hauls.
The 787 Dreamliner.
Yeah. So it's going. Yeah.
OK, very good. Yeah.
Qatar just gave one of their airplanes to Trump.
I don't know if you had that news in the UK or not.
That was interesting. Yeah.
Thanks, everybody.
The bombs of defense, they gave it to apparently.
Right. That's correct.
As far as I know, that's what I've heard too.
I'm getting to Berlin on Saturday and Wednesday and leaving on Saturday.
So I've got three nights' sleep and coming straight back to Melbourne.
So not very, not much fun.
OK, everybody. Thank you.
Thanks so much. Good job.
Thanks, David.
Thanks, Stephen.
Yeah.
See you.