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So everybody, welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and to today's

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discussion with our guest speaker, guest presenter, guest question answerer, Christine Anderson.

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This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost over three years ago with a desire to pursue

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truth, ethics, justice, freedom, and health.

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He has stood up against government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower

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and activist.

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His medical specialty is radiology.

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At this time I also note Reiner Fulmick in jail in Germany, Christine Anderson's country

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where he's undergoing a show trial.

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I shine a light on his case.

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It is outrageous what the German government is doing to Reiner and he is, Reiner is a

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fighter for truth, ethics, justice, freedom, and health.

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Anything that you can do, I can put an address in the post, address in the chat where you

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can send him a postcard, but please do what you can to spread the word about what's happening

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to him in the German court system.

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I'm Charles Kovest, the moderator of this group.

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I'm Australasia's passion provocateur and we love passionate people in these meetings.

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And by the way, I mention Reiner because he has presented twice to this group.

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I practiced law for 20 years before changing career 31 years ago and over the last 13 years

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I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies for vaccine damage and damage from

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bad medical advice.

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I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company.

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We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world.

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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.

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Now many of us proudly say yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers.

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And again, I note the work of the recent article of Dr. Stanley Plotkin, known as the godfather

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of childhood vaccines, who has now admitted that no vaccines ever in history were properly

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tested for safety and efficacy.

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Stanley Plotkin, and he published this article acknowledging that fact directly as a consequence

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of the deposition by lawyer Aaron Ciri for nine hours orchestrated by Dale Bigtree's

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ICANN network and the high wire.

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And so all of us should be supporting the high wire.

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But that is so important.

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Anyone who says vaccines are properly tested are lying to you or ignorant or more or worse.

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If this is your first time here, welcome and feel free to introduce yourself in the chat

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and where you're from.

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If you publish a newslet or a podcast or you have a radio or TV show or you've written

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a book, put the links into the chat so we can follow you, promote you and find you.

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Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War Three and the medical science

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battle is only one of 12 battlefields of this latest war.

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There's no time to be tired.

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I assess we're four years into a seven year war.

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So gird your loins, get energized, do whatever you can to be in fantastic health.

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So you're up for the fight.

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Most of us understand the development of science and that the science is never settled.

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Some of us believe that viruses exist.

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Some of us believe that viruses are a hoax.

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Some of us are on the fence and some of us consider that having a debate around the virus

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is nowhere near as important as having lots of other debates.

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And then we get attacked for being ignorant about viruses because if we had this debate

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and proved that viruses didn't exist then all of this would go away.

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So there you are.

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This meeting runs for two and a half hours after which for those with the time Tom Rodman

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runs a video telegram meeting.

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Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join.

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We will listen to Christine Anderson, our guest for as long as Christine wishes to speak.

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Normally very short because Christine loves questions and I used to be a lawyer.

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I love questions as well.

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So Christine if you just want to get questions that's let us know how long you speak to and

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then people will throw their hands up so that they have it in order.

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I've got lots of questions for you as well.

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But anyway, I'll be patient.

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Stephen Frost, however, by long established tradition asks the first questions for 15

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minutes.

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Is the free speech environment with appropriate moderating?

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If you're offended by anything, be offended.

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We are lovingly not interested.

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We reject the offense industry that requires nobody to say anything that may offend another.

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We also reject the triggering industry.

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Don't you dare say anything that might trigger somebody.

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I call BS on the triggering industry.

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We come with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear.

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Fear is the opposite of love.

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Fear squashes you, enslaves you.

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Love on the other hand expands you, liberates you.

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These twice weekly meetings are not just talkfests.

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An extraordinary range of actions and initiatives have been generated from linkages made by

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attendees in these meetings.

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If you have a solution or a product or links or resources that will help people put the

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details into the chat, if you're not having enough vitamin C, then you will not be well.

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Pump vitamin C into your body as well as vitamin D as well as zinc.

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The meeting is recorded and is uploaded on the Rumble channel.

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Now welcome to Christine Anderson, our guest.

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We thank you so much, Christine, for giving us your time.

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Christine has spoken to us on two or three occasions previously.

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She is a member of the European Parliament and a great contributor in the fight for freedom.

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So wonderful to have you here.

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Stephen, say hello to Christine and then we'll listen to Christine for as long or a little

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as she wants and then we'll have you start with questions.

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Stephen?

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Hello, Christine.

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Sorry, I was a little bit late.

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But I'm here now.

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So over to you, Christine.

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Well, I'm doing just fine.

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So first of all, I would like to apologize for my rather casual appearance tonight.

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But since I'm on my summer break, which Stephen saw fit to drag me out of to join you tonight,

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I figured you guys just have to put up with my casual appearance.

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That's who I am.

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So deal with it.

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OK?

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And I think it's like the fourth or fifth time I'm on this call.

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And in the past, it's always been really educating for me as well because I get to meet so many

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brilliant experts in various fields.

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And as Stephen knows, I mean, we have phone conversations.

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And it's like, you know, just to clarify a single question.

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And usually they end up being a conversation of like, what, an hour, hour and a half?

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Because, you know, we get we go on and on and on and on and we cover areas that, you know,

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most of the time I didn't even know that that should be covered.

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So Stephen, thank you so much for I mean, you are an inspiration even, you know, to me

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because you just light up my mind as well.

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So thank you for that.

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So, yeah, I'm on here today, not really knowing what to talk about, to be quite frank.

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But whenever I try to prepare something, you know, and it's like what a couple of days ahead

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of that particular event, eventually I, you know, end up throwing everything out because

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something happened on that day.

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Let's say I'm off to an event, I've prepared speech or whatever.

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I'm not doing that anymore, by the way, because nine times out of ten, I do end up throwing it out

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because there's something on the way I think about or something I hear or I get to,

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I usually get to events rather early because I want to interact with people.

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I want to speak to the people that came there, you know.

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So and somebody might say something to me that just kind of really, you know, gets me

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off somehow, you know, in an interesting way.

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So I end up throwing out my speech and, you know, do something entirely different.

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And this is one of those nights tonight.

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Christine, I wonder whether you could speak about, you know, the essential points of

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totalitarianism because you're an expert on that.

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Because I think you said you're from East Germany, is that correct?

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Originally, or your parents?

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My parents are.

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So I'm not originally from East Germany.

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My parents were born there in their 20s, by the way.

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So my dad did serve in World War Two.

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He was drafted when he was 16.

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And once he came back to home, you know, after having been released as a prisoner of war,

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which he made sure he was good if he was going to end up as a POW,

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it was going to be with Americans rather than the Russians.

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So he succeeded in that, at least.

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So he was released like the end of 46.

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Came home just to find out that he was now sitting in communism,

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which did not sit well with him at all.

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So down he took the streets and, you know, questioned the narrative and, you know,

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did all of that, which eventually landed him in jail.

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So he was sentenced in 1950 to 25 years of hard labor.

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He was actually tried and convicted by the Russians.

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So 25 years as a 22-year-old.

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So you can imagine, you know, how old he must have been, you know,

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by the time he was going to be released.

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And it was like he was devastated.

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Luckily, he only had to serve five years of the sentence.

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Then he was released.

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Early surprisingly, actually.

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But he still wouldn't shut up and he would continue speaking out against this,

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this totalitarian regime of communism.

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And in 59, he was supposed to get arrested a second time.

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But that time he had been warned.

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So he had the chance of fleeing GR, which he did on Easter Saturday in 59.

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So he came to the West.

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And so luckily I was born in Western Germany.

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I was born and raised in Western Germany with, you know, the Western values of free speech

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and, you know, the whole shebang.

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And I will have to say until I would say like the 80s.

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Yeah, we lived in a democracy in the Western world.

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I mean, looking back at, you know, the media back then,

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I mean, the newspapers back then, they pretty much covered all of the same issues, right?

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But they had different angles.

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And the different newspapers highlighted different aspects

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of that, you know, news, whatever they were reporting.

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So it was like a variety of pluralism in the aspects you were presented.

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So you had a chance of, you know, making up your own mind.

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But nowadays it's like you can open any old paper.

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It's the same story down to the word.

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So, you know, the pluralism no longer exists.

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So like I said, up until the 80s, I would say, yeah,

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I had a feeling I lived in a democracy and that drastically changed.

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And I would say that it happened in like the mid 90s.

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And the reason or, yeah, the reason I think why that might have happened

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didn't occur to me at the time, obviously, but I think I know now what happened.

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Well, the Iron Curtain fell.

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The Eastern Bloc was pretty much it no longer existed.

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So up until the reunification of Germany and the Eastern Bloc pretty much,

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you know, having failed for everyone to see, and they were, you know, pretty much dissolving.

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Up until that point, you had like this competition going

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between the Western world and the communist world.

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And it was like, you know, the West so desperately needed to try to prove to everyone,

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we are the better deal.

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We are the ones about freedom, democracy and the rule of law.

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And the communist world is all about oppression, totalitarianism and all of that.

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So as long as that competition was going,

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the powers in the Western world, they could not do what they really wanted to do,

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which we are seeing now what they're doing, which is to erect a totalitarian regime as well.

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So as long as the communist world existed, they could not show their colors.

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But that changed drastically changed after reunification and after the communist world

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pretty much with a blip obliterated.

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And then you saw the first thing we had was about, I would say, with the EU forming

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and how they collected even more powers.

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It was the introduction of the euro.

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And then turns out that Germany, of all people, of all countries, I'm sorry, of all countries,

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turned out to be the problem in this because we had too high wages.

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We were so competitive and we were competitive, but in a positive way.

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But we were, as you recall, we were supposed or we were labeled the sick country of the West.

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So what happened was with the euro coming, the countries no longer had the authority

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over their own currency.

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So the only way you could fix a problem when you were too competitive

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and you had too high wages, you could no longer sell your goods.

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You had to drop the wages rather than just in your currency.

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And that's what happened throughout the European nations pretty much,

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or the ones that belong to the EU.

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And that set off like a vicious cycle of twindling down wages

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rather than just adjusting your currency within your country,

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which kind of fixed the problem in the past, but you no longer could do that

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because you were bound within that common currency.

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So anyway, that's just one aspect of it.

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So it went on and on.

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And the next thing we saw is now we needed to save that currency, right?

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And I have to tell you, a currency that needs saving is no longer a currency.

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It is a problem and it needs to just be abolished, point blank.

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Here we are now.

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So next thing we're seeing, the powers that accumulate within the EU,

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specifically with the EU commission, they get larger and larger.

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They accumulate ever more power.

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And the people, the peoples within the EU Union, they just go with it.

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And it's all under the pretense of promoting fairness, of promoting kindness,

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of promoting respect and tolerance and the whole shebang.

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And now we are in this position that the sovereignty of the peoples within the EU,

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it no longer counts because the people, and that's another thing,

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in a democracy, a people is seen or should be seen as reasonable decision-makers.

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They don't need nannies.

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They don't need anyone to tell them what they should want or what they should vote for.

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But that's what we're seeing now, is that the peoples in the various EU member states,

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they're being seen as little naughty kids that need to be educated, that need to be taught,

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that need to be told what to do and need to be told what to think even.

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And that's where we're at right now.

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So...

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Christine, so observing America, it seems obvious to me, more obvious in America than

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in Europe, but then I'm in Europe.

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Well, I'm not in Europe, I'm in the United Kingdom.

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But I just wonder, what are they trying to push on to America?

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Is it communism or is it totalitarianism or are they pushing communism to achieve totalitarianism?

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And what are they doing in Europe too?

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But it seems to be more obvious in America where things are kind of black and white and

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people are very sharply divided.

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But having said that, people are divided in the UK these days, especially with the crazy

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government we have.

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You know what, Stephen, that's actually a difficult question.

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What are they trying to do?

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Are they trying to push communism to a step?

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Are they trying to push communism to establish totalitarianism or is it totalitarianism?

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And quite frankly, it doesn't matter because in the end, any communist system will turn

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totalitarian.

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That's the point, you know.

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So they might usher in totalitarianism via communism.

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I mean, truth be told, the whole concept of communism, oh my gosh, that is so nice, isn't

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it?

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Everyone is the same.

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Everyone has the same thing.

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Equality, no, no, it's actually no longer equality.

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It's equity, which is a totally different ballgame because equality means people have

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equal chances of succeeding.

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Equity, however, means to have equal outcomes.

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And as Kamala Harris never tires to say in order to explain what equity means is equal

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chances.

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Well, not everyone starts out in the same place.

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But essentially, everyone should have or should end up in the same place.

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So it's equity.

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But you cannot have everyone ending up in the same place.

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If you have everyone ending up in the same place, what do you have?

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because that's what it essentially means.

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But you cannot have everyone in the freaking world to end up as the president of the United

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And you cannot have everyone in the world end up as a professor at a renowned university.

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So what you will get is you have the whole people, maybe of the entire planet, ending

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up in misery, ending up in the slumps.

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That's what you will get if you strive for equity, meaning everyone ending up in the

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same place.

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So that's the flaw.

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But they don't tell anyone about that because they don't want you to figure it out.

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But anyway, no, communism is pretty much just the pretext.

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You know, it sounds nice.

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Of course, you know, we don't want anyone to suffer and anyone to be poor.

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It's all great.

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But no, the point is this.

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Humanity or humans, what drives them is to make a better world first and foremost for

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themselves.

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Of course it is.

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And then they want to provide a better world for their children, for their offspring.

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That is deeply wired into our genes, if you want, into our brains.

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Because what else do you have if not striving to better yourself?

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That's the motivation that drives people.

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But if you take that away, if everyone is going to end up in the same place, what is

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going to drive you?

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And we've seen that in the communist countries.

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Every single communist country has failed, utterly failed.

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The only reason that China hasn't failed yet is because they were capable of perfecting

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their totalitarian control over everything to an extent they are failing, but no one

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is noticing it because they all live in misery and utter control.

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Take the social credit system.

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I mean, this is, gosh, the example of par excellence, how you would control people.

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Yeah, you would establish a social credit system.

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And that's, by the way, what they're trying to do in the Western democracies as well.

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And now it ties back in to the whole COVID madness that we experienced when they ushered

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in these digital COVID certificates, the green certificates, the backs, passports.

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That was the first step into that social credit system.

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It was the first step into digital identity.

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They just got people used to having to show something wherever they went, whether it was

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a shoe store or a restaurant or whatever it was.

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I mean, even we as MEPs were required to provide some proof of vaccination, which I never could

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because I didn't take that stupid stuff.

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So it was kind of a problem.

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But that's where we're going now.

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And that is actually what they're trying to do in all of the Western democracies.

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Excuse me.

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I just got a frog my throat.

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So, but they're literally trying to obliterate our free societies that were built on individualism,

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on free individuals, on free speech, on free social justice, on free social justice.

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Free speech.

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So these are the hallmarks of every free and liberal democracy.

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And that's what they used COVID for to attack.

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They didn't have to do that in China anymore because China already is a totalitarian regime.

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But they had to target the Western democracies.

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And that's what they did.

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And that is only the whole COVID map is only one aspect of it.

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That's only to kind of get people used to, no, no, no, no, no.

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Fundamental rights are no longer fundamental rights that are guaranteed to you.

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Fundamental rights are actually some kind of a privilege that the government can grant to you

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or withhold depending on how you behave.

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And how, depending on your willingness to do what the government is telling you to do.

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That's what this was all about.

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So what we're seeing, and we've just seen that with the last Olympic games in Paris,

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this whole transgender madness, which is actually a transgender industry.

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They're making billions and billions and billions of dollars of people.

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They have successfully gaslighted and manipulated into thinking they were born in the wrong body.

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Right. So these people now need gender affirming care.

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I wonder what's affirming about it.

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I wonder what is care.

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There is nothing affirming about this.

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It certainly is not care.

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But it's a billion dollar industry.

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And what they produce is life long patients that need surgeries.

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Not only the initial surgery of this gender reassignment surgery or whatever they call it.

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They will have, like I said, life long patients that need reoccurring surgeries to fix the problem

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that the initial surgery cost them.

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So that's what we're seeing there.

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And that just kind of gets me thinking is, okay, what is this all about?

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I mean, I remember for decades, ever since humanity existed, actually,

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and especially in the Western world and these past decades, it was always the task and the job

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of parents and society to reaffirm, reassure our kids and adolescents

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that they were fine just the way they were.

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And to be quite frank, there isn't a teenager alive on this planet who is ever satisfied with this body.

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You know, especially girls.

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I mean, there's always something, you know, nose too big, boobs too small, you know, butt is not right.

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There is always something.

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But it was always our job to reassure them, no, you are perfect just the way you are.

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What are we doing now?

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We're telling these kids and telling these adolescents, oh, well, you're like your boobs.

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Well, maybe you're a boy and you're, you know, trapped in the wrong body.

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So yeah, let's do something about that.

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So, you know, let's just chop them off.

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Why don't we?

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Right.

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So this general mutilation, bodily mutilation, what is going on now is a permanent process.

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Now it's supposed to be a gender affirming care.

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Yeah, well, I don't think so.

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But when you go back, and that's when it ties once again back into communism,

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think about Mao's cultural revolution.

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What did he do?

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He tried to obliterate gender or sex.

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What he did was he pretty much said, we want gender equality.

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We want equality of the sexes, meaning women are just the same as men.

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And what did he do?

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He made everyone dress in these unisex outfits.

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They're all more short hair, if not shaved.

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But what he was doing, he was obliterating femininity.

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He was obliterating and erasing women.

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That is what he did.

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And we all know where the Mao's cultural revolution ended up.

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So, and that ties back in to once again, the Olympic Games.

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I mean, we've seen it.

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There were chromosomically proven biological men beating the hell out of women

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on a public stage.

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And not only were they applauded for it, they hung medals around their neck.

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And this really gets me off.

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It's like this whole transgender ideology, this transgender madness.

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They're targeting women, especially women.

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And then once again, I have to ask the question, why are they targeting women?

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And I'm sitting here, I'm sitting in a room, I'm sitting in a room,

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and I'm sitting here, I'm trying to come up with a reasonable explanation as to why they would do that.

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So I was thinking, okay, yes, one reason might be that women are the easier target, if you want to overturn

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that whole cultural thing of how society is made up.

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I mean, you know, women are, we are the ones, the women are the ones we birth every single generation

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ever since mankind existed on this planet.

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Why are they targeting us?

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their intent to make everyone feel welcome.

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So you target women, and they tell them, hey, look, we have, you know, this populace here,

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and they might be men, but they're really feeling like women.

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So why would you exclude them?

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So if you really were so nurturing, and so understanding, and so kind,

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you must include them in your private spaces, in locker rooms, in your sports.

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You can't exclude them. That goes against your nature.

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So they're weaponizing this, like I said, general tendency of women to exclude every,

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to include everyone and be nurturing and loving and all of that.

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But that can be the whole ball game.

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There must be another reason for why they would target women and try to erase women.

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I mean, they don't even call us women anymore.

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They call us cervix havers, uterus havers, or menstruators, as the New York Times one did.

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I mean, why are they erasing women? What is this all about?

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And that's pretty much a question I would like to ask you.

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But to me, this whole transgenderism, this whole madness is

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among all of these other issues we're seeing, just another attempt to usher in a totalitarian regime

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in which we are no longer seen as humans, actually, but just a part of some male mass

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they can shovel around any which way.

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I hope I made sense.

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Yep. Lots of sense. Huge sense. Absolutely, Christine.

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Stephen, while you're waiting for your next question, I wanted to bring to Christine's

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attention, but to all of us, Stephen, this big article in The Weekend Australian,

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Rupert Murdoch paper published from the Wall Street Journal, talking about the Nord Stream pipeline

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and the headline, total BS. Look at this, the size of this big article.

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I think one too many drinks and boom, you know, it says only a small amount of explosive was

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required to blow up. There's a couple of drunk Ukrainians who came together to blow up the Nord

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Stream pipeline. So I will send this to Hans Benjamin. But Christine, it's been remarkable,

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you know, with Hans Benjamin, who's presented, I'm sure Stephen's spoken to you about

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his evidence of a nuclear device. This is a pipeline that doesn't blow up easily.

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This is a pipeline that doesn't blow up easily. So, you know, I can share this article. It was

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originally published in the Wall Street Journal. Tom Rodman, you might find it make it easy. I've

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taken pictures of this. I'll send it to Hans Benjamin. What's your thought on this?

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If I could, yeah. Okay. That's very interesting. So they blew up a critical infrastructure

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that supplied Germany with energy, you know, and as an industrial nation, you do depend on energy.

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Right. So that was a terrorist attack. Right. Right. So anyway, but the very interesting point

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about that is when that happened, the German government, it was like, yeah, well, fine.

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You know, well, it's gone now, I guess, you know, so well, we don't have to, you know,

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get that dirty Russian gas anymore. So no big deal. You know, whatever. But it was like,

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seriously? I mean, infrastructure, critical infrastructure sabotaged, and you guys don't

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freaking even care about that. And it was like, it occurred to me, it was like, seriously. So they

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asked no questions. It was like, you know, once again, the conspiracy theorists, right, that said,

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well, what is going on here? But once again, it ties in to the way they handled the whole COVID

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madness, you know, and all of the things we're seeing now, like the birthrate drop, you know,

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in pretty much every single country that administered these despicable mRNA shots.

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So you have a birth drop in birthrate. And yeah, I understand it is a correlation. I get that.

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But why in the heck is no one interested in trying to find out whether or not this correlation

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is actually a causation and linked to the mRNA shots? Because that's the thing, the drop in

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birthrate occurred in what, mid 2021. And guess what, like nine months before they started rolling

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out, you know, these safe and effective vaccines, no one is interested. The same thing with the

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blowing up of the Nord Stream. No one was interested in asking questions and getting to the bottom of

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it. Absolutely. The only explanation I have for their disinterest to finding out what's going on

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is this. They don't need to find out because they already know. Yes. They know the answer.

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Yes. The mRNA shots are responsible for the drop in birthrate. And yes, Nord Stream 2 was sabotaged

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by Ukraine or maybe Poland or maybe the United States. They already know. So they no longer need

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to find out. They just so choose not to inform us of their knowledge. That's the explanation I have.

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So Christine, thanks so much for speaking to us. I mean, they're just so much. So Tross,

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Tross, she, while she was in power, during the three weeks she was in Prime Minister of the UK,

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the Nord Stream pipeline explosion took place as far as I can gather because

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it was reported somewhere I saw with my own eyes, but I can't remember where. Tross said,

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we've done it. Meaning the UK had done it on behalf of the US as far as I could understand.

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And then, but Hans Benjamin Braun, who's a theoretical physicist trained in the famous

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place in Zurich, he proved in, I think he said seven different ways initially,

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that, and then it's, I think it's 11 now, but nobody was interested. He sent all his reports

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and his research to the UN and various countries and nobody was interested that he said it was a

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thermonuclear explosion which blew up. It was much, much bigger than the alleged size of the

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the bomb or whatever which blew it up. So I'm talking about like 100 to a thousand times bigger

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and it was a thermonuclear explosion. He's proved it. Nobody was interested. Nobody countered him.

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Nobody said you're wrong. They just didn't respond. And I think it's very probable that I now thought,

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no, sorry, I did think at the time, why do they bring trust into the Prime Minister of the UK for

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three weeks? Why on earth would they put someone as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and then

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within three weeks they're getting rid of her? Surely whatever was wrong with her during the

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three weeks, which included the Nord Stream pipeline explosion, should have been known before

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before she achieved power. So they should have stopped her before, not make fools of themselves

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by bringing her in and then three weeks later getting rid of her because that and nobody

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commented about that. Nobody thought it was strange. They were all kind of caught up in the

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prior announcement of the energy prices going up mysteriously. And then allegedly in the UK, BBC

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pumping out to the British people that the prices of energy had to go up because of Ukraine.

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But I looked it up on the internet. It was only so Ukraine only supply, sorry, Russia.

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Russia supplied only 2% of Britain's gas. So why on earth was gas going up in the UK? Gas price,

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energy prices, they talked about energy, never talked about energy prices before. It was always

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electricity, gas, oil, but all of a sudden it was all banded together. It was like, and I think that

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it was like, and I think that they brought in trust to do whatever she needed to do and then got rid of

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her. You know what, that might be true. I cannot speak intelligently about that. And to be quite

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frank, I mean, who knows what's going on in the UK anymore? I mean, you guys go through prime

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ministers as some other people go through the underwear, right? I mean, you exchange them

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on a frequency. It's ridiculous. And if you were to ask me who was the prime minister of the UK

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right now, it's like, yeah, it's some new guy. Oh yeah, it's the steered Kermor, isn't it?

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Something like that. But it's like, seriously, I mean, you guys have like what, seven

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prime ministers in the last five or six years. Is that about right? So it's like, I mean, you guys

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have Italian, something Italian going on, where you constantly have someone else in charge. So

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it's quite difficult. But whatever the job was, I don't know.

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I really don't. In the world of politics, does it ever happen that you replace a leader of a country,

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especially a country like the UK, which is, you know, it's not powerful, but it's influential

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for all the wrong reasons, in my opinion. But anyway, that they put someone in power who's

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removed three weeks later. So why? And was it something to do with Nord Stream pipeline?

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I know. But you know, I don't know how you guys feel about that. But, you know, thinking back

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at the times when Maggie Thatcher was prime minister, oh my God, you know, she was a prime

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minister. She had balls and she stood up, you know. And I really wish, you know, the UK all the

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best. And I truly hope you guys will be able to get another Maggie Thatcher, seriously.

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So the prime ministers, anybody can correct me. So I'll just try maybe Jackie. Jackie's very

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knowledgeable. So David Cameron, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, Rishi Sunak, Keir Starmer. That's five,

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but I just get the feeling there were a couple of others, but I can't remember them. They're so

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insignificant. Oh, this Sunique Rishi or whatever his name was? Yeah, Rishi Sunak. Yeah. Yeah. So he

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was one of the five, but if anybody can think of any others, just crazy. It is. Yeah. So anyway,

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trust. It is a fact that trust was in power during and during those three weeks. She that she did say

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apparently, I don't know where, so it may be wrong. She did say we've done it. She didn't say what

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they'd done. But, you know, at the time, that was the big event, you know. But what was really

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interesting about what Hans Benjamin said was that nobody, as you say, nobody made any noise

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about it, but the nuclear explosion was pointed at Kaliningrad, which is in White Russia, which is

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south of the three, what are they called? Baltic States. Yeah. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

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So White Russia is south of there, and there's a place called Kaliningrad in White Russia, and the

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the bottom of the Baltic Sea,

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off Bornholm, I think the Danish island, which is where they attacked the launching pipeline,

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was of such a shape that they funneled it was a funnel. So Hans Benjamin brilliantly explains

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this. I can put you in touch with him if you like, Christine, because he could actually provide you

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with the information which he has sent around the world. Nobody's reacted. You could start harassing

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them in the European Parliament. Oh, I will. Trust me. Yeah. And if you could put me in touch with him,

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that would be greatly appreciated. Yeah. You haven't heard about this then, Christine?

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Well, you know, there's been so much things going on right now. And like I said, I am on summer break.

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I'm trying to kind of, you know, have a way, which is the first time for three years.

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So Christine, I wasn't criticizing you, but I thought so when Hans Benjamin was on, I was going

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to get in contact with you. And then he got forgotten. So this time I won't forget and I'll

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make a note now and I'll introduce you to him. Excellent. Yes. Thank you so much. So Stephen,

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that's why we're here, you know, because we all learn from each other. That's the joy.

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Absolutely. So I just want, so Charles, if you can encourage, because you're a great,

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I've got a series of questions. Can you encourage people to ask some questions

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because the meeting's only as good as the questions. Yeah. We've got, who is Hadidj?

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What's your real name? Hadidj? Oh, it's Martin. This is my name, Martin. That's better. Correct.

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Hello, Martin. Long time no see. That's why, sorry, I couldn't remember. No problem. No problem.

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First of all, I would like to thank Ms. Anderson for this brilliant presentation. I know, I still

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can recall our meeting in the parliament, in the European parliament, where you gave us an interview

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for our documentary on the WHO. So thank you very much again. Just some brief comments.

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I mean, in terms of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, I think it's quite clear if you accept the sources

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which are reliable. And I would like really to point out Seymour Hirsch, who is a journalist,

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who also did those investigations on the Vietnam War, on Afghanistan and these things. And if you

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take this for granted, I think, well, at least it's to be considered. He states, it's clear who

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met because the names are clear. It's clear where they met. It was a hotel. It was on the top roof

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of a hotel close to the White House, where people gathered to plan the attack on Nord Stream 2. And

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if you can recall, there was even Biden saying in January, we won't let it happen that Russia

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puts gas into Germany. So this was already quite known. Then there was this big event with

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those warships and everything going on in May of 22. And in this horrific scenario,

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there were special divers, which were US, which were British, who went down and who planted mini

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nukes on Nord Stream. Because with what they call this C4, this ordinary blowing up shit, you can't

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damage a pipeline like that, which has a wall of four centimeters of steel. So you need something

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very special to do that. And this very special is not in the hands of some Ukraine divers going

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with a sailing ship to a place which is one of the most covered areas of the Eastern Sea, because

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it's a very, very distinct place where everybody has his eyes on it, because it's very, very critical,

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because there is infrastructure there. So if you go there with your sailing boat, you won't stand

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any five minutes, because then you will be surrounded by warships asking you, what are

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you doing here? I mean, so they simply cannot get there. Then they waited for three months.

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In fall of this year, there was a Norwegian airplane that dropped a special device,

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because it was blown up by sonar and not by common waves, because you could have registered

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those waves, but sonar you cannot register. So they had some sonar going down there, and then

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it was blown up. And this should have been some mini nukes, because as already Stephen pointed out,

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there were some special things which only happen if you blow up some mini nukes, which means

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there was gas from water released into the air, which is quite typical for it. Then you had this

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very special wave going out to Kaliningrad, where it was almost a catastrophe. By the way, Kaliningrad

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belongs to Russia, not to White Russia, but to Russia. Oh, sorry, I went wrong. No problem.

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But it belongs to White Russia. It's part of White Russia, but you have something like a track

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going through White Russia to Kaliningrad. And this is something, it's a very narrow space, but

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this was affected heavily. There was some rise of atomic energy measured in Poland,

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as well as in Switzerland. So it went up, radioactivity went up. So this is also

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indicating that it must have been a mini nuke. And I just learned, that's not my special field,

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but I just learned that each and every big bomb you drop has a very special curve when you measure

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it. It's called indication if you take it. And this is very special for common bombs, as well as

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for atomic bombs. And this explosion had the curve of an atomic bomb. So there are so many

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points that indicate how it happened, who was involved and so on. So I think it's quite clear

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how it was done. But of course, at the moment, people tend to ignore it. And you're absolutely

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right. You don't have to investigate what you already knew. And this is the reason why there is

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no interest in that. And just maybe one last comment on your question, why do they especially

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attack women? I think it's very simple. The women are the center of the families. If you destroy the

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women, you destroy the families. If you destroy the families, you destroy the society. And then

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you have the need of many states that care for the generations, because nobody else could

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fill in this gap, which is provoked by destroying women. So my heart beats for women. So

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all the best to all of you. I know. If I just can comment on your last remark there,

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I mean, there might be another explanation as to why they target women to such an extent as they

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are doing right now is if you think about this, it is actually warfare. We are at war. They are

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attacking everything in our Western democracies that we ever held dear, our freedom, our democracy,

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the rule of law, our tradition, culture, the way our society is made up. And if there is one common

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thing about warfare, about war, it's always this. Once the conqueror enters your country and

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conquers you, they take it out on the women by means of raping them or degrading them,

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whatever they're doing. And this is kind of like somewhat of a means to establishing their power

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over that country, over that culture by saying or by showing, look, we have conquered you.

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We are violating your women. And there isn't a damn thing that you as men who are supposed to be the

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protectors of these women can do anything about that. So that occurred to me. It was like that

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might be a reason why they are targeting women. And what we're seeing is with having men being

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emasculated for like what decades now, there is a few that stand up and then rise up and say, well,

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we won't have this. But the majority of men, they just stand there and say, well, we're not going to

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do anything about it because we don't want to be called racist. We don't want to be called transphobes.

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We don't want to be called whatever. There's a part of men saying that. But on the other hand,

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you have another group of men. They're kind of like they sort of experience what you would call

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schadenfreude. The women brought it on themselves because they wanted to be feminists. They wanted

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to be equal to men. Well, there you have it. Stand up for your own. But speaking about feminism,

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I'm by no means a feminist, at least not what the term has come to in our day and age.

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It started out with very valid reasons. Of course, women need to have the right to vote.

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Of course, in a liberal society, you cannot have men dictating to women whether or not they can

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have a job. And I mean, up until 1977, even in Germany, if a woman wanted to take a job,

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her husband needed to sign the contract. I mean, this is not right. I get that. But we were at that

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point. We had equal rights. But they completely went off the rails with this. And that is, I think,

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what most men now think of feminism and feminists. It's just completely blown out of proportion.

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So I can kind of understand when they say, well, you know, you wanted this, now deal with it.

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You know, you wanted to be a man, now protect yourself. I get that sentiment. But society or

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family or, you know, it works, men and women working together. When you look at a family,

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there is things that men can do that I can't. I mean, you know, lifting heavy stuff. Sorry,

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I can't do that, because I don't have the strength of a man. But there is things that I can do

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that a man couldn't. Like being this loving and nurturing, this bond to the child you have given

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birth to. You know, I mean, there is great fathers out there, no doubt about it. But they will never

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have that special bond. They just, I'm sorry, you know, and if this offends men, I do apologize.

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But to me, they will never have that. But it's different. It's a different connection.

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And fathers are as important to children as mothers are just in a different way. But the way

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biology or nature for us was to, you know, get together and make the best of it. So

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yeah, as a team, an intact family is unbeatable. I mean, there is no better entity in the world

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than an intact family. And that's, and I agree with the comments that were brought forth.

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Yeah, they have to attack the family. And why do they have to do that? Because as they say,

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blood runs thicker than water. And family, blood relation is the strongest bond you could ever have

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in any environment. And that's what they need to attack and to obliterate. So the government

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or whoever who wants to assert control over you can step in, but they need to sever this bond

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first. And as long as people have a family they can rely on, no manipulation,

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no totalitarianism could get a hold of you. That's why they need to destroy family. And that's why

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communism, by the way, the first thing they do is they attack the family, dissolve it, get women

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working so they can get a hold of the kids in daycare so they can indoctrinate the kids.

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Absolutely. And that's what Nick Rockefeller told Aaron Russo. And he told, and now I can't quite

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remember, I think it was Alex Jones on a YouTube video. It's still there, I think. And he told,

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Aaron, so Aaron Russo said that Nick Rockefeller told him he was boasting, he, we created feminism,

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we created women's liberation, that's it. We created, we wanted to get control of the children.

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So I've been saying this for a couple of decades, at least now, because I saw with my own eyes what

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was going on in Sweden. And that's why I moved, made the decision to move. We had two children

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at the time and then we got, then a third arrived when we came to the UK. Why I had to get the hell

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out of Sweden. I could see what was going to happen. I was going to be taken away from my children

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by Swedish society where men were under attack. And so, and I really felt it. And so that's why

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we came here to the UK. But the UK has got its own problems. But Sweden, people say to me,

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oh, Sweden didn't need a lockdown. And I say, they didn't need a lockdown. They already trust the

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government. Right. But you know what, Stephen, the question is this. So I mean, I've heard about that,

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that, you know, feminism was an invention by, you know, the globalitarian misanthropists.

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And I think you mentioned Rockefeller. Okay, the question is this. When, you know, in the 19,

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I don't know what, 1916, 1917, the suffragists in the United States, you know, rallied to have

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the right to vote. Was that a grassroots movement? Or was that it even back then,

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was it instigated by Rockefeller? So I think they were always trying to-

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I really have a hard time believing that the women back then, you know, that it was not a movement,

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they- it was not a grassroots movement, but it was like a political move, you know, by one of the

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globalitarian misanthropists. So that's- I have a hard time accepting that as it went on, you know,

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later, maybe in the 40s or 50s. Oh, yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah, it was the globalitarian

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misanthropists, you know, maybe they may have latched onto that, you know, and maybe they saw

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a way, well, we can exploit this movement, you know, to further our agenda. So that's a question

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I would actually ask you. What do you think of that? Well, I think it's quite clear as a medical

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doctor, I can see without having to prove it, that men and women need each other now, as they've

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always needed each other, and you only have to look at a happy family. All happy families are

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the same, but all unhappy families are different. So, you know, you need a father and you need a

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mother. Please, James, please don't interrupt me. My son is butting in from outside. Just-

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By the way, Stephen, as he interrupts, we can't hear his interruption at all. Interesting. No,

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but it takes me away, you know, I can't have that going on in the background, when my own son is

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disagreeing with me in the background, when I'm trying to talk to Christine.

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So anyway, I wanted to say about the Nord Stream pipeline explosion, Christine, do you think that

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the silence from Germany, in particular Germany, but also Sweden, and the UK, all the countries,

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nobody wanted to know who'd done it, nobody interested in whether it was a thermonuclear

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explosion or not, and clearly, in my mind, it probably was, just listening to Martin Haddish.

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So, do you think that- I forgot, it's too long a question, I've forgotten. I'm just going to say it

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and come back to me in a second. Charles, go ahead. Okay, so we've got Jessica with her hand up,

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and then Glenn. Glenn keeps dropping in and out, so, Glenn, you'll be after Jessica.

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Hi, Christine. Thanks, Charles. Thanks so much for being here. It's been fantastic.

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I've got a couple of things, a couple of questions. Forgive me if you've answered them in these

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meetings before, but I wasn't around then. Real Prime Ministers, just before that as well,

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two of them were just installed, TRUS and Sunak, and they were installed without a single vote

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from any member of the public in the UK, so that's probably why we get so many Prime Ministers,

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they just keep installing them, sticks up bottoms, you might say. So, what I wanted to ask you,

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if you don't mind, is about the European Parliament and how you are in there, because we see

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videos and things from there, and I would like to know if you wouldn't mind more about the

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general energy that's going on in there in the atmosphere. Do you have many others who agree with

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you but won't speak out, those who will speak out? What is the general view of the UK, and are they

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trying to get us back in? Now they've got Starmer to help them do that, and how did you get away,

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did anybody else get away with not having the jabs to be able to get back into the European Parliament?

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That kind of stuff that we don't hear on the outside, what is that like from the inside,

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if you wouldn't mind, please? Of course I don't mind. So, first of all, on the question of do I

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have many supporters, no I don't, to be quite frank. Okay, so the EU Parliament now consists of 720 MEPs,

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and if I had to classify them, then I mean we have grown in numbers as far as the the side is

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concerned that is truly about freedom, democracy, and the rule of law, and that is about

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that the people should have the say in this and should not be dictated to, and now we're talking

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about national sovereignty and all of that. So that side has grown in numbers, but we are by no

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far a majority in the House, and that's the problem. So when I look at the last legislature,

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I would say if it came down to a vote on any particular issue where you could kind of tell,

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okay, you know, that kind of makes it out who is on what side, the most we could hope for,

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and things really went well for us, the most we could hope for was like 150 votes out of 705

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in the last legislature. So what the voting is now, I can't tell because we haven't had, you know,

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we have plenary sessions in the new legislature, but there wasn't like any specific issue where

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you could really tell, you know, okay, that's where it's going. So but I would think by now

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the most we could hope for is maybe 200 votes out of 720, right? So as far as the support is concerned,

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there is colleagues that are willing to speak up, meaning, yeah, they will hang their face in a

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camera and just, you know, say how things are. Then you have colleagues that are in support of us.

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They, you know, will not hang their face in the camera and, you know, just spat out of these things,

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but they will contribute initiatives, for example, you know, plenary, like a oral question or, you

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know, some major place, something like that, right? And they will speak out in committees, right?

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And then you have colleagues supporting our side behind the scenes. They're with us 100%.

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But they cannot afford to become, to go public with that, because they are depending on the fact

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that they will be once again put up for reelection by their party. And as soon as they violate,

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violate, you know, the party's line, and they're becoming too obnoxious about their opinions,

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and too outspoken about their opinions, they run the risk of their party not putting them up again.

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So, but they were supporting behind the scenes. And then you have people in parliament,

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they know damn well that what they're doing really isn't right. It's not in the best interest of

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people. It's not advocating for, you know, the interest of the people. But man, they finally made it.

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They are part of the club right now, you know, they get inside invited to, you know, golf parties and,

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you know, go to this buffet in this party and da da da da da da da. So they're so proud of the fact

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that they made it into that circle, and they will not do ever anything to jeopardize that.

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But they kind of know it's not okay what they're doing. So, and then you have a proportion of

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members of the parliament, they really believe this crap. They really do. I mean, it's, you know,

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I mean, it's, it's, you know, it's insane. But they really think if you shut down

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nuclear power plants and erect some windmills, because the sun and the wind, they don't post,

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you know, any bills, it's all going to be good. Are we going to save the planet? All right.

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They really believe the crap. Okay, so that's just to give you an insight as to how the parliament is

708
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comprised or what the parliament is comprised of. And now I kind of lost your second question.

709
1:12:43 --> 1:12:50
Well, the second question was, what is the attitude towards the UK? And then the third question was,

710
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how did you get away and others get away with not having jobs when they were obviously mandating them?

711
1:12:56 --> 1:13:06
Okay, so how do you how does EU Parliament see the okay. Okay, first of all, you have to understand,

712
1:13:07 --> 1:13:16
they did whatever they could to prevent UK from leaving. And that to them was, I mean, that was

713
1:13:16 --> 1:13:24
the most important thing you can think of. Because with the UK leaving, I mean, that was the first

714
1:13:24 --> 1:13:34
breakout wall, right? Yeah. So I mean, they needed to not have that happen. And here we are, it didn't

715
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happen. Okay. So that was plan B, to make it impossible for UK to leave. So you guys voted

716
1:13:45 --> 1:13:53
on leaving. And they were like, well, no, we will make it impossible for them to leave. So and they

717
1:13:53 --> 1:14:00
tried whatever they could. And once that failed, it was like, well, we'll make we will make it as

718
1:14:00 --> 1:14:09
hard as we can on UK to leave. There was plan C. Well, that kind of failed too. Right. So and all

719
1:14:09 --> 1:14:17
they're left with now is spreading the narrative that UK is so bad off now. And you know, they're,

720
1:14:17 --> 1:14:24
they're failing economically. I mean, literally, I mean, they're, you know, on the verge of just,

721
1:14:24 --> 1:14:32
you know, sinking deep down in the ocean. And, you know, there they are. Right. And I remember,

722
1:14:32 --> 1:14:43
I was invited to, to be or to join the the Brexit on January 31 of 2020, I think it was,

723
1:14:43 --> 1:14:51
I was in London, I was in Parliament Square, right. And from what I've been told, and from the

724
1:14:51 --> 1:14:57
German media, right, I mean, they're all you're mourning and, you know, deep depression. And,

725
1:14:57 --> 1:15:04
you know, they are going to leave now. So I arrived in London, and, you know, I arrived a day early,

726
1:15:04 --> 1:15:09
because I wanted to spend time, you know, just walking the streets and speaking to people and,

727
1:15:09 --> 1:15:14
you know, just going shopping and, you know, getting people into conversations and all of that.

728
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And I have to tell you, I mean, there was no depression. Not that I've seen any. You know,

729
1:15:22 --> 1:15:26
I spoke to some people and they were like, Yeah, well, it's gonna be really bad for us,

730
1:15:26 --> 1:15:32
so blah, blah, blah. And I was like, but why? But they really couldn't give me a reason as to why

731
1:15:32 --> 1:15:37
it was going to be bad. Right. So I was like, okay, this is, you know, a victim of propaganda.

732
1:15:38 --> 1:15:44
And then I stood on Parliament Square, you know, and I was like, Oh, my God, I mean, I still get

733
1:15:44 --> 1:15:51
goosebumps just thinking about that. Right. I mean, there I saw people, you know, just celebrating

734
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their sovereignty, just celebrating, you know, for being Great Britain. And I'm like, Oh, my God,

735
1:16:01 --> 1:16:10
I would just once I wish to see this in Germany, Germans just celebrating that they are Germans.

736
1:16:11 --> 1:16:18
That was like, that was really, truly amazing experience. But like I said, they tried to do

737
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whatever they could to not make this happen. So now, when they're trying or now that they're

738
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trying, possibly trying to lure the UK back in, well, yeah, they need money. Hello.

739
1:16:35 --> 1:16:42
I mean, they have all these programs. And the UK was a net payer. Right. Which, by the way,

740
1:16:42 --> 1:16:49
Germany picked up your tap, you know, for the most part, and the German was happy to do so,

741
1:16:49 --> 1:16:55
by the way. Right. So but it's like, they need they need money. For God sakes. I mean,

742
1:16:55 --> 1:17:01
all of these programs, all of these, you know, whatever saving the planet kind of ideology and

743
1:17:01 --> 1:17:06
blah, blah, blah. They need a heck of a lot of money. They would love to have you back.

744
1:17:06 --> 1:17:16
And I hope that the UK will not rejoin EU. You should be happy and lucky that you're out of

745
1:17:16 --> 1:17:26
this hellhole. Right. Okay. So coming to the question, how did we pull it off to have access

746
1:17:26 --> 1:17:33
to EU Parliament? I mean, I can tell you, yeah, they tried to put us through the shit to get in

747
1:17:33 --> 1:17:40
there. And I used to walk in there every morning. And, you know, and the thing is, it was the

748
1:17:40 --> 1:17:45
security guards who had to deal with this. Right. I mean, the guys that, you know,

749
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were being paid to make sure that, you know, the safe that the place is safe. And they're putting

750
1:17:53 --> 1:18:02
them up front, you know, and how can you imagine a security guard that's being paid to ensure that

751
1:18:02 --> 1:18:12
I'm safe as an MVP. And now he has to pretty much tell me, you know, I can't let you in.

752
1:18:14 --> 1:18:19
Yeah, that is how despicable they were. So I used to walk in there every morning and was like,

753
1:18:19 --> 1:18:25
so what hoops would you have me jump through today to get to my office? Right. So first,

754
1:18:25 --> 1:18:35
it was like tests that we do with PCR tests. So we filed a court suit that was unreasonable

755
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for them to have, you know, have a PCR test, which by the way, take 24 hours to get a result,

756
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which meant I could not would not have been able to do my job for 24 hours because the freaking

757
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test wasn't back yet. So we filed a court order and we got it. So it was like this rapid test kind

758
1:19:00 --> 1:19:07
of thing. Right. So I went in there the first morning and was like, well, we need a test.

759
1:19:07 --> 1:19:14
I was like, well, yeah, it was like, I understand. I'll do a rapid test right here. And they were

760
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like, well, did you bring one? No, I didn't. You have to provide that. No, we don't. I was like,

761
1:19:19 --> 1:19:26
yeah, it's in the court or you do. So they got a test. And, you know, I really have to admit,

762
1:19:28 --> 1:19:34
I really had fun with them because they were doing the test. Right. Or it was by the way,

763
1:19:34 --> 1:19:41
saliva, not poking nose. So it was like, you know, when you looked at it, it was like, oh,

764
1:19:41 --> 1:19:46
yeah, it seems a lot of good. It was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. It says 15 minutes. We have to

765
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wait 15 minutes for the result. Right. So I met them, sit down there. I got on my phone. You're

766
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never like, I really tried. I have to admit, I tried to make it as hard on them as possible

767
1:20:01 --> 1:20:07
because they did this hard on me as I as they possibly could. So, but what I did in the first

768
1:20:07 --> 1:20:14
two weeks is I came up with my own COVID certificate kind of tests, test results,

769
1:20:14 --> 1:20:21
and it was really creative. It created a form and it kind of looked like, you know, the forms you

770
1:20:21 --> 1:20:28
would get from some test station or whatever. And, but the thing is, I, you know, noted my name and

771
1:20:28 --> 1:20:34
blah, blah, blah date and even had the little dots, you know, tested positive or negative, blah, blah,

772
1:20:35 --> 1:20:44
and, but I myself signed it. They never caught onto that. Right. And I issued that to all of my

773
1:20:44 --> 1:20:50
staff and they, you know, managed to get in with that for like two weeks and then the president

774
1:20:50 --> 1:20:55
caught onto it. And he called me out and having faked COVID certificates, which I never did.

775
1:20:56 --> 1:21:02
Nover did it say that it was a COVID certificate, but yeah, they find me for like, well, I don't

776
1:21:02 --> 1:21:08
know. I didn't get my daily allowance for like five days, whatever, you know, but I kind of,

777
1:21:08 --> 1:21:17
you know, got by, but it was like, yeah, it was not right because they were denying

778
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an official elected representative off the people, by the way. They denied me entrance

779
1:21:26 --> 1:21:30
to my place of work so I could do my job and represent the people.

780
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But here we are. They didn't get rid of me and well, there you go.

781
1:21:37 --> 1:21:42
Christine, that's a wonderful story. Jessica, great questions. Now, before we go to Glenn,

782
1:21:42 --> 1:21:50
Christine, I sent an email to Hans Benjamin Braun. Benjamin, show your face. We call him Benjamin,

783
1:21:51 --> 1:21:57
the author so that we can introduce the two of you because Benjamin has done great work.

784
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Benjamin, meet Christine, who has not been aware of your great work on Nord Stream.

785
1:22:02 --> 1:22:09
Excellent, Charles. Well done. Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay.

786
1:22:10 --> 1:22:19
Yes. I don't know what has been discussed before. So just... Well, I was telling Christine,

787
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who as you know, is a German MEP. Yes. Yes. Yes. I was telling her about your incredibly important

788
1:22:26 --> 1:22:33
research, in my view important, and suggesting that Liz Truss was maybe brought in to be Prime

789
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Minister of the UK for that, for three weeks only. Just for that. That was the real reason

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that she was brought in and then got rid of, if you understand me. So they said that she had to go

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after two weeks, you know, or even after a week of being Prime Minister. It seems to me that

792
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whatever they found out after a week or two weeks, they should have known before,

793
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if she was that bad, that she had to go in three weeks. And she was the one who said, in a text,

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I was reminded by one of the contributors in the chat, the text said, it's done. And Russia...

795
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So one of the contributors in the chat said that Russia was asking about that text, you know,

796
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asking the UK. It was never answered, of course, the question. But Russia is suspicious because

797
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Russia as well, as we talked Hans Benjamin, were very quiet about taking, you know, letting people

798
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know that they knew it was a thermonuclear explosion, which I think they did. And so did

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Sweden. And so did all the rest of them. Sweden was the one, the country which detected Chernobyl,

800
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if you remember. So I just wanted to introduce you to Christine. I was going to do it by email,

801
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but Charles has helped me by actually thinking of emailing you. And so you could tell Christine

802
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yourself what we concluded that what happened in Germany, sorry, in the Nord Stream pipeline,

803
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and the reaction in Germany in particular, but all European countries was treason. And we thought

804
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at the time we were trying to analyse it, we thought that it was about NATO, pushing NATO,

805
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and getting Sweden and Finland into NATO. And I believe that both those countries are now in,

806
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but Sweden took some time to get in, if you remember, because of Turkey.

807
1:24:28 --> 1:24:36
So maybe just I... Charles, I can't stay. I have some things I want to answer for Christine.

808
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Yes, Glenn, you go, then we'll come back to Benjamin. Yes, Glenn?

809
1:24:41 --> 1:24:47
Hi. So Christine, you asked a bunch of questions that you said, I don't understand why. And so for

810
1:24:47 --> 1:24:52
a variety of them, I think I can give you at least partial answers. So I've been linked with

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the highest level of the Department of Defence, Intel, for the past nine months. They came to me

812
1:24:59 --> 1:25:05
and said, we want you to join us so that because they can't go on camera or be on voice, they do

813
1:25:05 --> 1:25:10
a lot of writing, but they can't do either camera or voice. So I became the civilian front and the

814
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host of the show. And we've put out over 60 shows since Thanksgiving and covered a large number of

815
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these areas. And areas before they brought me in, I had no idea on a number of these. So I now have

816
1:25:25 --> 1:25:31
a lot of things. And Stephen was absolutely correct about the issue with the Rockefellers

817
1:25:31 --> 1:25:37
initiating the women's lib. But he only got half the story. So half the story is they wanted control

818
1:25:37 --> 1:25:41
of the children, the same way has happened with Hitler, that he wanted to control the children.

819
1:25:41 --> 1:25:46
And so one way to do that was to have the mothers working during the day, and therefore,

820
1:25:46 --> 1:25:53
the institutions could take over the children and indoctrinate them. The other half of it is,

821
1:25:55 --> 1:26:05
their set of systems is always looking to steal and to tax as much as they can. And so they wanted

822
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more income to be occurring. And one way to do that is to double up the amount of income from

823
1:26:10 --> 1:26:17
families. So not only was the husband having a job, but now the female was having a job and her

824
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income could also be taxed. So then they could steal more of it and increase their penetration

825
1:26:23 --> 1:26:29
level. Now, I'm going to stay with the women's issue. You asked specifically about the voting.

826
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That was not part of ours. And I don't think the voting movement was driven by Rockefellers. However,

827
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there was another women's movement in the US that was, and that was the suffrage movement around

828
1:26:43 --> 1:26:49
getting rid of alcohol as a beverage. And the reason for that was-

829
1:26:49 --> 1:26:49
You mean prohibition?

830
1:26:50 --> 1:26:57
I'm sorry. Yes, prohibition. Thank you. The reason for that was they were running all of the

831
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petroleum system. And ethanol from being done from corn or other vegetables was a competitive

832
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threat to them. So they had to get rid of it. And they did that by outlawing all alcohol

833
1:27:11 --> 1:27:17
production. And that allowed them to maintain the monopoly of all the energy being driven

834
1:27:18 --> 1:27:24
through the petroleum system, which they owned all the petroleum mechanisms across the world.

835
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Now, a lot of people think they had to give that up as part of the antitrust that was all a fake out.

836
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They got $2 billion of direct payout, and then they went out and impenetrated all the other buy

837
1:27:36 --> 1:27:42
out mechanisms. So they continue to control right to this day, well over 50% of all energy levels

838
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throughout the world, including the Middle East. I don't want to fill you in on that.

839
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There you go.

840
1:27:50 --> 1:27:57
Another element around the communism, clearly all the way back to pre-World War II, there was a lot

841
1:27:57 --> 1:28:02
of communism in Hollywood, and that continued. And that was another place where they could use

842
1:28:02 --> 1:28:09
mind control techniques to overwhelm the public with whatever approach they were looking to occur.

843
1:28:11 --> 1:28:17
Again, from the women's side, they've always wanted to do away with that close bond of women

844
1:28:17 --> 1:28:23
and children. And this is across mammals, and it's because not only is there that nurturing when

845
1:28:23 --> 1:28:28
they're young, but there's that existence of them growing inside the mammal's body. And that's all

846
1:28:28 --> 1:28:34
mammals, including humans. And that level of bond is supreme, and they needed to break that off

847
1:28:34 --> 1:28:44
at any chance they had. So breaking into the core family, paying women with welfare when the male

848
1:28:44 --> 1:28:50
was gone was a way of breaking up the family. So there's a whole range of things they're doing.

849
1:28:50 --> 1:28:56
The next big thing is they had to do away with religion. All moral religions are opposed to

850
1:28:57 --> 1:29:06
sex slavery of children and of poisoning anyone with drugs. This was part of their main business.

851
1:29:07 --> 1:29:14
They had to undo that, and so they've been trying to eliminate both Christian and Jewish religions

852
1:29:14 --> 1:29:21
in order to put in some kind of neutral religion that it's okay for pedophilia to be adopted and

853
1:29:21 --> 1:29:27
to be routine. So that's a range of the things going on that I think apply to questions you

854
1:29:27 --> 1:29:35
were posing. Every part of this that you see as weird, it's not by accident, it's by direct plan

855
1:29:35 --> 1:29:40
of the Rockefellers and George Soros and then a whole tier of people underneath them, including

856
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a variety of capitalists in Germany that are in that second tier. They're not in the top tier,

857
1:29:45 --> 1:29:53
but that are linked either through intel agencies or through bribery or blackmail,

858
1:29:53 --> 1:30:01
because many of them have in fact got involved in the sex trade clubs and have gotten proof against

859
1:30:01 --> 1:30:06
them, so they feel they're stuck. And that's how they've maintained the syndicate up to now.

860
1:30:07 --> 1:30:11
They know they're in trouble, so much of the professional world is opposed to them and ready

861
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to react, they are going double or nothing to complete the slave state. Exactly as we see in

862
1:30:17 --> 1:30:28
the Matrix movie, if Trump is allowed to come back and reasonable legislatures are allowed to occur

863
1:30:28 --> 1:30:36
and reasonable rule of law is allowed to come back, they're done with. They cannot allow Trump

864
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to become president again. Excellent analysis, Glenn. Thank you so much. Well said. Good points.

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All right, Benjamin, just quickly, then we go to Mascha, because Christian, I really want to get

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1:30:49 --> 1:30:54
you to get from Benjamin's own words, this great work that he has done.

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1:30:57 --> 1:31:05
Benjamin, green screen, I love it. Yeah, I see it. I cannot change it. Maybe it's a bandwidth

868
1:31:05 --> 1:31:13
issue because I'm wrestling with the bandwidth. So can you hear me? Yep. I would have to restart

869
1:31:13 --> 1:31:22
the whole thing. So I don't know what the camera is on. So can you hear me? But yeah. Benjamin,

870
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could you possibly in five minutes give a summary to Christina of your findings? So as I remember,

871
1:31:28 --> 1:31:34
you had proved in seven different ways, it was a thermo. Oh, yeah, well, it's way more. So

872
1:31:36 --> 1:31:46
the summary, actually, already seven issues I summarized at the end of 2022. I sent it to

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the Swiss government. I sent it actually 25th of January, I sent it to MIT to a person who actually

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1:31:56 --> 1:32:02
was in close contact with Seymour Hersh, because that individual is actually mentioned in Seymour

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Hersh's articles. So actually, my analysis preceded what Seymour Hersh wrote. So that's

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not entirely insignificant. And then I, it's so yeah, but what is the proof? It's essentially,

877
1:32:17 --> 1:32:25
I analyzed the seismic signals. And I realized that there was some, as you would expect from

878
1:32:25 --> 1:32:33
other incidences as Corona, there was simply, you know, no evidence whatsoever for the estimates

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1:32:33 --> 1:32:40
of explosives that have been used. What actually has been going around is 500 kilograms TNT. And

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1:32:40 --> 1:32:47
if you actually analyzed the seismic signals, you come to the conclusions that it's at least 200

881
1:32:47 --> 1:32:55
tons, if not one, two, three kilotons explosive, which corresponds to the seismic signal. And that's

882
1:32:55 --> 1:33:02
absolutely watertight. So there is no way that a conventional explosive could have been used. So

883
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that's the first important thing. So in that sense, Seymour Hersh's story was a deflection from what

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1:33:09 --> 1:33:14
really happened, because he could not say, and in addition, what I found out from the location

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of the explosive, it was actually placed in such a way that it will trigger a shockwave towards

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1:33:22 --> 1:33:29
Kaliningrad, because the seismic response there was really high. So there was no way that the

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1:33:29 --> 1:33:36
Russians could have been responsible for that. So it was clearly a Western nation. And it was

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1:33:37 --> 1:33:43
part of NATO actually, that that proof I then enhanced afterwards. So last December, so I

889
1:33:43 --> 1:33:51
stumbled across that because there were no less than 30 preceding events where one actually tested

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1:33:51 --> 1:34:01
this attack. The first one is actually before 2014. It's in 2013 during a NATO ball tops exercise,

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1:34:01 --> 1:34:11
the same ball tops exercise that somehow Seymour Hersh emphasized. So and that actually then brings

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1:34:11 --> 1:34:19
me to, and then there are other evidences. So the seismics, that's the most quantitative really.

893
1:34:19 --> 1:34:23
But there are others like clouds which have been observed by a captain who arrived there 10 minutes

894
1:34:23 --> 1:34:29
afterwards. And the cloud looks exactly like that after a nuclear underwater explosion. There is no

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1:34:29 --> 1:34:35
way that you could actually have conventional explosive. Also with conventional explosive,

896
1:34:35 --> 1:34:41
you would have had dead fish, ironically. People said, oh, there were no dead fish. The issue is,

897
1:34:41 --> 1:34:46
actually, when you have a nuclear explosion, you don't have dead fish directly because you,

898
1:34:46 --> 1:34:53
everything becomes a plasma, right? So there is no dead fish recognizable anymore. And so what's

899
1:34:53 --> 1:35:00
actually left is just some simple layer on the water surface, you know, of mixture of whatever

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1:35:00 --> 1:35:08
is actually, you know, has been decomposed. So the very fact, and that I may add, the fish,

901
1:35:09 --> 1:35:18
there was, how do you say, a fishery association in Bornholm. And they closed down this spring

902
1:35:18 --> 1:35:26
after 150 years of operation, because they have no longer fish. And those fish which they have,

903
1:35:26 --> 1:35:32
they are deformed and, you know, not proper. And of course, nobody reports about that. But there is,

904
1:35:33 --> 1:35:40
there are reports in Danish newspaper, I can identify those. So, and that again,

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1:35:40 --> 1:35:46
that's inconsistent with a normal explosion. Why would you have, you know, such a impact on

906
1:35:46 --> 1:35:53
wildlife and marine life with a conventional explosion? So now to Sweden and Finland.

907
1:35:53 --> 1:36:00
So how did they get into NATO? Well, these preparatory events, which are mentioned,

908
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30 explosions between 2013 and 2023 in the Bornholm Basin. They were also on Swedish territory.

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Incidentally, there was also an explosion before at the end of 2021 on December 17th. And if you

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remember December 17th, that was the day when Russia insisted that Ukraine would not join NATO.

911
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The same afternoon, two hours later, there was an explosion in the Bornholm Basin, and actually more

912
1:36:41 --> 1:36:46
directed towards Kaliningrad than actually the other one. And also the Nord Stream explosion,

913
1:36:46 --> 1:36:54
when was the date? It was exactly the date of the referendum in Ukraine. It was actually the date,

914
1:36:54 --> 1:37:02
the 26th of September was the date when they openly voted, you know, in Donetsk and Lugansk.

915
1:37:03 --> 1:37:13
So you see a correlation between, you know, political events and these obvious geophysical

916
1:37:13 --> 1:37:21
events. Now, Finland, in short, I can tell you in Finland, if you remember, I think that was the

917
1:37:21 --> 1:37:28
last time we, you know, we conversed with each other because that was last October, I think you

918
1:37:28 --> 1:37:34
were on this, you gave a talk then. And there was just this issue about Baltic Connector,

919
1:37:35 --> 1:37:45
you know, this pipeline between Estonia and Finland. It was October 8th, local time, October 7th, UTC.

920
1:37:45 --> 1:37:54
It was around midnight, obviously. So the pipeline between Estonia and Finland was destroyed.

921
1:37:55 --> 1:38:00
And then I went and looked actually at precursor events, seismic precursor events.

922
1:38:01 --> 1:38:11
There were five or six of them in the second half of 2021, before the Ukraine conflict started.

923
1:38:12 --> 1:38:18
And I remember there was a New Year's speech of Nini Stö, the Finnish president.

924
1:38:19 --> 1:38:29
2021-22, when he argued half of his New Year's speech, he argued that Finland should join NATO.

925
1:38:30 --> 1:38:39
There was no open conflict yet in Ukraine. And so you see, so then Finland joined NATO in spring 2023.

926
1:38:39 --> 1:38:46
Actually, I sent my analysis to Stoltenberg, to the Finnish president, to the Swedish president,

927
1:38:46 --> 1:38:51
on the day before they joined NATO. I have actually a confirmation of receipt of the

928
1:38:51 --> 1:39:01
Finnish president. And so it was clear. So they were under pressure to join NATO. And then,

929
1:39:01 --> 1:39:07
of course, joining NATO didn't help against this aggression, which didn't really exist,

930
1:39:07 --> 1:39:15
because the pipeline was blown up anyway. So and that's in a nutshell is sort of the

931
1:39:15 --> 1:39:22
geophysical context of my work and the geopolitical context, both.

932
1:39:23 --> 1:39:28
So I'm happy to send you the manuscript, which I sent at the beginning. There was a talk,

933
1:39:29 --> 1:39:34
well, in German, you understand it, of last December. And I will have a talk, which will

934
1:39:34 --> 1:39:40
be online the next few days, which I had in Germany actually a couple of weeks ago.

935
1:39:41 --> 1:39:43
Wow.

936
1:39:43 --> 1:39:48
So there you are, Christine. It's, yeah, Benjamin's done great work. And so, and so we'll link the two

937
1:39:48 --> 1:39:58
of you. So, Benjamin, the thing is this. So my group in EU Parliament, we're planning, and I just

938
1:39:58 --> 1:40:06
proposed today to my group, that we should have discussion about, you know, new insights into,

939
1:40:06 --> 1:40:14
you know, the blowing up of Nord Stream 2. So would it be, I mean, there is no guarantee that,

940
1:40:14 --> 1:40:18
you know, there will actually be a debate, because whatever is proposed for my group,

941
1:40:18 --> 1:40:24
as you can imagine, we will not have a majority in a house to actually have that, you know,

942
1:40:24 --> 1:40:33
put on the agenda. But, you know, it's a try anyway. But as we are proposing it, we will have

943
1:40:33 --> 1:40:43
60 seconds to pretty much, you know, make our case. Okay. The house adopt that point on the agenda.

944
1:40:43 --> 1:40:49
So what you've just been, you know, what you've just told us, you know, to be quite frank, you

945
1:40:49 --> 1:40:55
blew my mind, because I'm not into all of, you know, the specifics of that. What I did,

946
1:40:55 --> 1:41:14
you know, I did catch up on was, so there were like, 1.2 megatons, I think you said.

947
1:41:16 --> 1:41:22
But it has to be careful, just sorry that I'm interrupting. So, you know, this issue,

948
1:41:22 --> 1:41:27
people say that's the I'm making this point, because people react irrational. And when you

949
1:41:27 --> 1:41:36
say this, some nuclear weapons can come in so called mini nukes. And the mini nuke was,

950
1:41:36 --> 1:41:44
they actually were introduced by the US Congress, were officially approved, I think, 2003 or 2004,

951
1:41:44 --> 1:41:52
something like that. And they are defined as devices with a explosive force of less than

952
1:41:52 --> 1:42:01
five kilotons. So 5000 tons, right? Whereas the most powerful thermonuclear weapons, they are in

953
1:42:01 --> 1:42:08
the range of megatons, you're right. So but there is this whole range of a factor of 1000, an

954
1:42:08 --> 1:42:13
explosive force. And that's why one needs to be really careful, you know, when stating that,

955
1:42:13 --> 1:42:20
otherwise, you get the counter reaction, which is irrational. Yeah, this one is at the lower end,

956
1:42:20 --> 1:42:24
you know, this one which was used is at the lower end of the spectrum of so.

957
1:42:25 --> 1:42:30
So Benjamin, there's still nuclear, are they? That's the point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course,

958
1:42:30 --> 1:42:35
of course. It's still it's it's thermonuclear. Yeah. So there are even there are even warheads,

959
1:42:35 --> 1:42:41
which can be adjusted between sub kiloton and 150 kiloton, one of the same weapon,

960
1:42:41 --> 1:42:49
you just dial essentially. So could I could I ask you that you would provide me with, you know,

961
1:42:49 --> 1:42:58
information focusing on the fact that no, it could not have been, you know, some diver from somewhere,

962
1:42:58 --> 1:43:03
you know, you know, going down there and, you know, just putting in there some some fire,

963
1:43:03 --> 1:43:12
even the half actually quite so much pretty much. So could you could you send to me information on,

964
1:43:12 --> 1:43:21
you know, the seismic graph that you're talking about, right? That it had to be a detonation

965
1:43:21 --> 1:43:27
far beyond, you know, any firework crackers, anything like that. So it could not have been

966
1:43:27 --> 1:43:36
a lone diver and anything else that would really stir up some shit, you know,

967
1:43:37 --> 1:43:44
so that at least, you know, some people might come to think of the fact, well, you know, the

968
1:43:44 --> 1:43:51
the story they were telling us, it might not be the story, how it actually happened. But if you

969
1:43:51 --> 1:44:00
could provide me with, you know, some real facts on that, you know, and mind, we have like 60 seconds

970
1:44:00 --> 1:44:08
to make our case. Can it be a graphics as well? Can it be a graphics as well? I'm sorry? Can it be

971
1:44:08 --> 1:44:14
a graphics, you know, an illustration, a figure, or does it need to be? Yeah, if it helps me to

972
1:44:14 --> 1:44:20
understand what you're talking about, of course. Yes. But you know, just provide if you could provide

973
1:44:20 --> 1:44:27
me with facts, you know, this is where we found the seismographic, whatever, you know, it had to be

974
1:44:27 --> 1:44:35
this and that. So just to debunk the narrative, there was, you know, some lonely guy, you know,

975
1:44:35 --> 1:44:40
one day, you've kind of figured I'm gonna dive down there and blow the whole thing up, you know,

976
1:44:41 --> 1:44:48
so that would be really appreciated. And like I said, we have 60 seconds to make our case.

977
1:44:49 --> 1:44:55
In the end, the House is not going to vote for it and vote on it. So but we have the 60 seconds,

978
1:44:56 --> 1:45:03
you know, to really get I mean, that's pretty much all we're doing in the EU Parliament, right?

979
1:45:04 --> 1:45:12
Yes. To speak to the world to speak to the US citizens, right? Actually, I can tell you,

980
1:45:12 --> 1:45:20
it was a longer thing. It was presented to the US UN UN Security Council a year ago on the

981
1:45:20 --> 1:45:40
anniversary of the

982
1:45:43 --> 1:45:53
UN Council. So we have to, you know, use whatever platform we have. And Parliament is just an

983
1:45:53 --> 1:46:01
additional platform, right? To get the to get the story out there. And so that's kind of like,

984
1:46:02 --> 1:46:07
what we're pretty much I'm looking at, right? We need to get the story across. Because

985
1:46:08 --> 1:46:13
have you heard? Have you heard about all of this? What you've been telling us on, you know,

986
1:46:13 --> 1:46:19
mainstream media in Germany, mainstream media on France, mainstream media in Poland, or the UK,

987
1:46:19 --> 1:46:25
or anywhere else in the world, for that matter? No, you haven't. They don't report on that. So

988
1:46:25 --> 1:46:32
we need to really, you know, whatever platform we have, whether it's social media, EU Parliament,

989
1:46:32 --> 1:46:40
or, you know, whatever, we need to use all of this. All of this. Okay. All right. So Benjamin,

990
1:46:40 --> 1:46:48
is it time? What is your timeline? Just that I know. Okay, so next plenary session will be,

991
1:46:48 --> 1:46:56
let me check in. It's not going to be until September. Okay, it's going to be the week from

992
1:46:56 --> 1:47:05
September 16 through 19. But we will have to propose or to table that request, let's say,

993
1:47:06 --> 1:47:16
the week before. So today we have August 20, right? So if I have this, you know, in the first week of

994
1:47:16 --> 1:47:24
September, it would be all good. It would be fine. Okay. Okay. Very good. All right. Great work,

995
1:47:24 --> 1:47:32
Benjamin. We will make that happen. And I think Christine. Oh, Benjamin. Yes. Have you got my

996
1:47:32 --> 1:47:43
email address? Can you can you link? Yeah, Charles maybe link us. Yeah. I'm gonna put it in the chat.

997
1:47:43 --> 1:47:52
Okay. Okay. Okay. Good. All right. On we go. Benjamin, I will provide two email addresses,

998
1:47:52 --> 1:47:58
please. I made it to both of them. Okay. To increase the chances that I'll actually take note

999
1:47:58 --> 1:48:08
of it. Okay. Okay. Otherwise, I use it again. Yeah. Okay. And Steven and I will make sure that it

1000
1:48:08 --> 1:48:14
happens as well. So Steven will harass you, Christine. That's good. Thank you. Well done,

1001
1:48:14 --> 1:48:22
Benjamin. So Christine, would you like Hans Benjamin before that time when you've got 60 seconds

1002
1:48:22 --> 1:48:28
to brief the group? Or would you like the elements of surprise? The danger? Well, it's not

1003
1:48:28 --> 1:48:35
necessary to brief the group because like I said, I've already got the approval to table that request

1004
1:48:35 --> 1:48:41
because I'm chief whip of my group now. So I got the approval of the group to table their request.

1005
1:48:42 --> 1:48:50
We just need the information to, like I said, make our case, right? It's not quite clear who is

1006
1:48:50 --> 1:48:57
going to do that. It might be me. It might be our head of group, the president of our group. But

1007
1:48:59 --> 1:49:06
yeah, it's fine. Yeah. Okay. Hans Benjamin, if you need any help in formulating it or advice,

1008
1:49:07 --> 1:49:12
I'll try and help if I can. Okay. Thank you, Steven. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Benjamin.

1009
1:49:12 --> 1:49:18
All right. We've got Marsha, Hayden and Martin and we're on good track. Christine, we're finishing in

1010
1:49:18 --> 1:49:24
35 minutes. I hope you're okay for that. Marsha. Hi, Christine. Thank you for everything.

1011
1:49:25 --> 1:49:35
Christine, I'm reading about a long-term study by Dr. Yang-Mi Lee and Daniel Brody. It is about the

1012
1:49:35 --> 1:49:42
fact that nanotechnology reacts to EMF fields and dischanging humanity in a serious way,

1013
1:49:43 --> 1:49:49
electromagnetic fields. So from my point of view on top, the wireless networks

1014
1:49:50 --> 1:49:58
are also crucial to the digitization intentions. And so my question is, how is the EU

1015
1:49:58 --> 1:50:05
parliament dealing with 5G? Is the resistance there too? And the same question related to

1016
1:50:06 --> 1:50:13
geoengineering. Thank you. Okay. I'm sorry. You have to repeat the question. How is the EU parliament

1017
1:50:14 --> 1:50:20
dealing with the topic of 5G? Because... 5G are good. Sorry?

1018
1:50:22 --> 1:50:34
Wireless radiation, 5G, 4G. Okay. Okay. And the same about geoengineering because we have

1019
1:50:34 --> 1:50:40
grave consequences of both. Okay. So first of all, I have to admit,

1020
1:50:41 --> 1:50:47
this is going to be an issue that will be dealt with in the committee I'm on now,

1021
1:50:48 --> 1:50:54
but I haven't been on the committee in the last legislature. So I really couldn't provide an

1022
1:50:54 --> 1:51:02
answer to you right now because I have no clue. I really don't know. So you have to understand that

1023
1:51:02 --> 1:51:10
there are so many issues being dealt with in the EU parliament. And I'm really kind of... I know

1024
1:51:10 --> 1:51:16
what's going on in my committees, but since we just started in the legislature and the issues

1025
1:51:16 --> 1:51:22
just raised, like I said, it's going to be an issue in the committee I'm on right now, but I'm

1026
1:51:22 --> 1:51:29
new to that committee. So I really wouldn't even begin... I don't know where to even start.

1027
1:51:30 --> 1:51:42
Right? So what I do now is that they're trying to do whatever they can to bring in new technology,

1028
1:51:45 --> 1:51:52
whether it's 5G or whatever. From what I know is like, it's supposed to be a blessing

1029
1:51:52 --> 1:51:59
to humanity because internet is going to be so much quicker. And from what I've been told

1030
1:52:00 --> 1:52:09
you could have surgeons from the other end of the world via internet, guide another surgeon

1031
1:52:09 --> 1:52:15
through surgery, that type of thing. But like I said, I'm really not equipped to intelligently

1032
1:52:15 --> 1:52:23
talk about this right now because I really have no clue about this. Unless you can specify in some

1033
1:52:23 --> 1:52:30
other way or provide more details. So at this point, I don't know.

1034
1:52:31 --> 1:52:37
I would be happy to do so via email, but I also think that this topic is quite promising because

1035
1:52:37 --> 1:52:46
they are either entirely stupid or they are really alien because they are victims of

1036
1:52:46 --> 1:52:53
all of these technologies too. Right. Well, the two options you just provided,

1037
1:52:53 --> 1:53:00
I don't think it's the first one. They're not entirely stupid. They aren't. So it must be the

1038
1:53:00 --> 1:53:08
other option. Right. So they're not alien. They're stupid. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1039
1:53:08 --> 1:53:14
Thank you. Masha. We'll take some steps. I'll assist you on that. Hayden, what's going on with

1040
1:53:14 --> 1:53:21
euthanasia? Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? All clear. Yes. Wonderful. Thank you so much, Christine,

1041
1:53:21 --> 1:53:28
for being here and for everything you do. I'm here with Jackie Devoe. She's unable to put her

1042
1:53:28 --> 1:53:33
hand up right now, but perhaps we can split my time in half and maybe give her the opportunity

1043
1:53:33 --> 1:53:41
to speak too because she's very much a specialist in this area. What I really wanted to ask about

1044
1:53:41 --> 1:53:49
was a topic that when it comes to COVID corruption, you know, very much isn't discussed as much. It's

1045
1:53:49 --> 1:53:56
seen more through the conspiracy lens, et cetera. And with all the work you've done, Christine,

1046
1:53:56 --> 1:54:03
you know, on, you know, speaking about the jabs, the lockdowns, everything, I wanted to know if

1047
1:54:03 --> 1:54:13
you're aware at all of the euthanasia, non-voluntary euthanasia that's been taking place around the UK,

1048
1:54:13 --> 1:54:18
globally, quite frankly. I'm sure Jackie can touch on it more where essentially, I mean,

1049
1:54:18 --> 1:54:30
here it was, it was labeled a protocol named NG163 before being renamed to NG191. And then

1050
1:54:30 --> 1:54:36
they essentially, November last year, I believe, took the recommendation down mysteriously.

1051
1:54:37 --> 1:54:44
And it's essentially where government advised through protocols that quote unquote, well,

1052
1:54:44 --> 1:54:50
not just COVID patients, any patients are treated with midazolam and morphine. And again,

1053
1:54:51 --> 1:54:58
the specifics can be discussed more by Jackie, but this essentially suppresses them and so on

1054
1:54:58 --> 1:55:03
and so forth ends up killing them through harsh treatment as well, through abandonment. I mean,

1055
1:55:03 --> 1:55:10
there's so many factors to it. And ultimately, I see this and I think so many of us see it. We're

1056
1:55:10 --> 1:55:15
in a support group, we run a support group and it's the one thing, I mean, the quote unquote

1057
1:55:15 --> 1:55:21
media are starting to discuss, you know, jabs more, maybe a little bit, you know, trickling

1058
1:55:21 --> 1:55:27
things out. But it's the one kind of thing they're totally unwilling to touch is the euthanasia

1059
1:55:27 --> 1:55:34
that's been taking place. It's like a silent scandal, I suppose. And so perhaps we could

1060
1:55:34 --> 1:55:41
give Jackie a brief opportunity to touch on it too before we get further and move on.

1061
1:55:42 --> 1:55:47
Absolutely. Jackie has presented to us as well, Stephen, remember?

1062
1:55:50 --> 1:55:55
Jackie from memory was a former, she was working for the BBC at one stage. Is that right, Jackie?

1063
1:55:55 --> 1:56:00
Oh, sorry. Mainstream anyway. You're muted, Jackie.

1064
1:56:05 --> 1:56:12
No, maybe accidentally at some point in the last 40 years, I did write something for the BBC,

1065
1:56:13 --> 1:56:19
teen website or something, but no, I've never worked for the BBC. No. So who told you that?

1066
1:56:21 --> 1:56:26
I was told about a journalist who was mainstream journalist then maybe.

1067
1:56:26 --> 1:56:36
Yeah, that's me. Anyway, never mind that. Christine, I'm so honored and so feel so

1068
1:56:36 --> 1:56:44
privileged to be next to Christine on a screen. And I have messaged you a few times, Christine,

1069
1:56:44 --> 1:56:49
because I wanted you to come on my show. I've done a show for the last two years for Unity News

1070
1:56:49 --> 1:56:58
Network. But anyway, we're all busy. You know, we miss messages. But anyway, I know that we have got

1071
1:56:58 --> 1:57:06
a connection. I just know that. Anyway, so back in 2020, a man contacted me, told me that his

1072
1:57:07 --> 1:57:14
relative, shall we say, had been murdered in an NHS facility. And I don't know if you know this

1073
1:57:14 --> 1:57:22
story, Christine, but I then looked into that. I'm an investigative journalist. I've been doing

1074
1:57:22 --> 1:57:30
it for 40 years. I always say three decades, but it's actually 39 years. And looked into this and

1075
1:57:31 --> 1:57:38
lots of people came to me with their stories, very similar stories to this one man, that their loved

1076
1:57:38 --> 1:57:49
ones have been murdered in hospitals and care homes and hospices across the UK. So as a journalist

1077
1:57:49 --> 1:57:56
of a long time, I thought, well, I'm going to look into this. And I did. And then I approached all

1078
1:57:56 --> 1:58:05
the editors of all the national newspapers in the UK. And I managed to secure two meetings with

1079
1:58:05 --> 1:58:16
the news editor of the Daily Mail and the medical editor of the Mail on Sunday. And we had these

1080
1:58:16 --> 1:58:22
meetings and I brought the original guy along with me. He had incontrovertible evidence

1081
1:58:23 --> 1:58:34
of the fact that his relative had been murdered in an NHS facility, NHS in the UK. And so these

1082
1:58:35 --> 1:58:40
editors were like gobsmacked. Their jaws were on the floor. They were like, this is the biggest

1083
1:58:40 --> 1:58:47
story we've ever heard. Oh, God, I'd love a puff of your cigarette, Christine. Anyway, so

1084
1:58:50 --> 1:58:55
they just said, this is the biggest story of decades, you know, with this front page news.

1085
1:58:56 --> 1:59:06
And so I kind of persevered with this. And they kind of went quiet like they do.

1086
1:59:07 --> 1:59:15
And I was a bit tired. This is early 2021. And then I decided, well, I didn't decide, but

1087
1:59:15 --> 1:59:21
a media company, Iconic Media came to me and said, do you want to make this into a documentary? So

1088
1:59:21 --> 1:59:27
I did. We made a documentary. So by the end of 2021, we made a documentary called A Good Death.

1089
1:59:29 --> 1:59:35
And it's on iconicmedia.com. And it's been seen by, I think, probably hundreds of thousands of

1090
1:59:35 --> 1:59:42
people by now, because it's three years old. And I'm very proud of it. And then the next thing I did,

1091
1:59:44 --> 1:59:49
I did a second documentary called Playing God, which was released in April this year. Don't

1092
1:59:49 --> 1:59:54
know if you've seen it. It was platformed on Children's Health Defense, CHD, Robert Kennedy,

1093
1:59:54 --> 2:00:04
Jr. And it was also platformed on UK column, or the UK. It was about medical democide in the UK

1094
2:00:04 --> 2:00:10
over the last 50 years. And I did message you about it, but I know you're incredibly busy.

1095
2:00:10 --> 2:00:17
You probably haven't seen my messages. Also, I really love you, like really love you. Massive

1096
2:00:17 --> 2:00:23
girl crush. And I messaged you many times, not being creepy or weird, but just saying that. I

1097
2:00:23 --> 2:00:31
think you're great. And I also, for the last two years, I've done a Friday night chat show where

1098
2:00:31 --> 2:00:35
we can smoke and drink and be laid back. I thought you would be fantastic for that. But anyway,

1099
2:00:36 --> 2:00:43
that's stopped now. But I'm going to do a new show in the new year with the amazing Hayden Appleby,

1100
2:00:43 --> 2:00:49
who you just heard speak. He's only 18 years old. He's like some old soul, you know. Wow,

1101
2:00:50 --> 2:00:59
that's amazing. We don't allow 18 year olds here, Jackie. When I first had him on my show,

1102
2:00:59 --> 2:01:06
he was 17. He was barely legal, but we have a connection. And we just thought we need to

1103
2:01:07 --> 2:01:14
work together because you need to also watch Hayden's podcast on Twitter, Utter Truth. Is

1104
2:01:14 --> 2:01:21
that right, Hayden? Yes. Yeah. And it's amazing. I mean, he's 18 years old. He looks 50, but you

1105
2:01:21 --> 2:01:29
know, ignore that. He's not vain. He doesn't. I'm old enough to be his great grandmother, but yeah,

1106
2:01:29 --> 2:01:35
we have a connection. He's an amazing new young journalist. And I'm very keen on getting all these

1107
2:01:35 --> 2:01:41
new young journalists on board because I've got four adult children and they're amazing as well.

1108
2:01:43 --> 2:01:51
But you know, I hate him to do something like he's doing. It's pretty special, you know. And I think

1109
2:01:51 --> 2:01:56
he needs to be given some credit. Anyway, I've gone slightly off the ball there because I'm just so

1110
2:01:58 --> 2:02:05
having a bit of a moment. Jackie, you can arrange for him to come on this platform if you like.

1111
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If you wish. Well, never mind him. I'm focused on Christine now because I can't believe I'm in

1112
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some kind of virtual chat room with Christine Anderson sitting next to me because I just think

1113
2:02:20 --> 2:02:25
she's amazing. I'm not going to go too girly crushy on her because that is going to come across as a

1114
2:02:25 --> 2:02:33
bit creepy. But anyway, I think I've said pretty much, I'm writing a book at the moment. It's

1115
2:02:33 --> 2:02:38
called Murdered by the State and it's a kind of follow on from the two documentaries. But Christine,

1116
2:02:38 --> 2:02:44
if you, I don't know where, well I've got your email address now. So if you're interested,

1117
2:02:44 --> 2:02:50
I will send you the two films and the link to the book. And they're brilliant films, Christine.

1118
2:02:50 --> 2:03:00
Yeah. Okay. So Jackie, first of all, sorry for not having, I truly don't remember having got

1119
2:03:00 --> 2:03:08
any messages from you. But I mean, you have to understand the email. I have an EU Parliament

1120
2:03:09 --> 2:03:15
that we have one single email address. And on this email address, everything shows up,

1121
2:03:15 --> 2:03:23
whether it's official business from EU Parliament or whatever, or citizens writing to us. So

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2:03:23 --> 2:03:31
trust me, I get like what, a thousand emails every single day and there is no way to sift

1123
2:03:31 --> 2:03:41
through all of that. So I'm truly sorry. I truly missed it. You have my email address now once again.

1124
2:03:41 --> 2:03:48
I do you want better. I send you a PN right now with my personal phone number. So you just conduct

1125
2:03:48 --> 2:03:54
business in the future with me personally. And even there is no guarantee. I'll see it,

1126
2:03:54 --> 2:04:03
at least not in some kind of a timely fashion, but I will see it eventually. So, but I would love to

1127
2:04:03 --> 2:04:13
come on whatever show you have or seriously. So having said that, yes, I am aware of the fact of

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2:04:13 --> 2:04:17
what's been going on, especially in the UK with a, what do you call it? The

1129
2:04:18 --> 2:04:26
Madazelon, right? That was like a big scandal. And it's not, it didn't only happen in the UK.

1130
2:04:26 --> 2:04:33
It happened pretty much everywhere. And that's just, I mean, just, you know, thinking

1131
2:04:33 --> 2:04:42
how we treated, you know, our elderlies in their homes, you know, being totally secluded from

1132
2:04:42 --> 2:04:54
everyone being shut off from everything. And just to think of how many people died, lonely, if not

1133
2:04:54 --> 2:05:03
to say from loneliness, because I mean, from all I've known is, you know, old people,

1134
2:05:04 --> 2:05:10
when they're on the last days, you know, they're not concerned about dying. They're, they already

1135
2:05:10 --> 2:05:18
accept the fact that they are dying. What they really want is to see their loved ones and to have

1136
2:05:18 --> 2:05:24
having, I mean, our society imposed on them having to die lonely.

1137
2:05:25 --> 2:05:32
Terrible. Like I said, if not, you know, from loneliness. And I'm really,

1138
2:05:32 --> 2:05:41
you have to say that I truly feel blessed that my parents, my mom died at the age of 91,

1139
2:05:41 --> 2:05:50
my dad at 94, but it happened before this COVID madness. And I can tell you, I probably would have

1140
2:05:50 --> 2:05:59
ended up in jail, because had anyone tried to keep me from my dying parents in the hospital,

1141
2:06:00 --> 2:06:06
I don't know what I would have done. But I can guarantee you it would have landed me in jail.

1142
2:06:06 --> 2:06:14
How do I know that? So it's, I'm tearing up right now, actually, just, you know, to think about this.

1143
2:06:14 --> 2:06:24
So but it's, it's, it's utterly, it's so dehumanizing. And I actually like the words right now.

1144
2:06:25 --> 2:06:31
But like I said, I will PN you with my personal phone number. So please contact me.

1145
2:06:32 --> 2:06:40
And let's connect. And, you know, like I said, I'd love to come on your show. Absolutely. Absolutely.

1146
2:06:41 --> 2:06:50
Wonderful. Great. Jackie, can I just say my mother was killed by the NHS, the NHS in 2016.

1147
2:06:50 --> 2:06:56
How do I interrupt here? Can you hear me? Yeah. I just want to say very briefly that Christine,

1148
2:06:56 --> 2:07:02
it wasn't just people who were terminally ill, it wasn't just elderly people who were murdered

1149
2:07:02 --> 2:07:07
in their beds, in their beds at home, in hospices, in hospitals and care homes,

1150
2:07:07 --> 2:07:14
they were young people. In my group of 150 people, I have at least 12 people who were killed,

1151
2:07:14 --> 2:07:20
they were euthanized involuntarily under the age of 60. So it wasn't just and they were they

1152
2:07:20 --> 2:07:27
weren't disabled people, they weren't vulnerable. It's so random, it's bizarre. Hayden is my friend,

1153
2:07:27 --> 2:07:32
his grandmother was euthanized, my mother and my father were euthanized. That wasn't the reason I

1154
2:07:32 --> 2:07:40
made the film. I only realized that as I was making the film, A Good Death in 2021. Oh my God,

1155
2:07:40 --> 2:07:47
that happened to my mother in 2009. And while I was editing the film, A Good Death, my father was

1156
2:07:47 --> 2:07:55
murdered in his bed at home by paramedics. It's a disgusting, horrible, awful story. I haven't even

1157
2:07:55 --> 2:08:02
processed it myself at this point because I'm busy doing other stuff and I'm about to do another

1158
2:08:02 --> 2:08:08
documentary as well. But it's absolutely horrendous. And a lot of people say like you said, Christine,

1159
2:08:08 --> 2:08:15
oh yeah, old people, terminally ill people. No, in my group, 99% of the people in my group,

1160
2:08:16 --> 2:08:21
their relatives are people who had been murdered. They've been involuntarily euthanized, which is

1161
2:08:21 --> 2:08:28
murder. They weren't old, they weren't elderly, they weren't terminally ill. They went into hospital

1162
2:08:29 --> 2:08:34
for one reason or other, they'd fallen over, they'd got dizzy, they had a cold. And then they were put

1163
2:08:34 --> 2:08:45
on an end of life care pathway, which was in 2020 called NG163, later labeled NG191. And they were

1164
2:08:45 --> 2:08:52
killed. They were murdered in their beds, in their hospital beds, in their care home beds, and in their

1165
2:08:52 --> 2:09:00
beds at home. And it's the most despicable, horrible scandal that you've ever heard. It's the worst

1166
2:09:00 --> 2:09:06
crime against humanity, nevermind the jabs. I'm not saying nevermind them, but beyond the jabs,

1167
2:09:06 --> 2:09:12
beyond the post office scandal, beyond the poison blood scandal, this is the worst crime against

1168
2:09:12 --> 2:09:19
humanity, the worst Holocaust, and it's still going on. I've got people coming talking to me

1169
2:09:19 --> 2:09:26
every day, it's still happening. Christine, thank you for listening. And I love you. Big girl crush.

1170
2:09:26 --> 2:09:31
Thank you for that. Stephen, for some reason I can't figure out an European,

1171
2:09:31 --> 2:09:35
Jackie, so could you provide to her my phone number?

1172
2:09:35 --> 2:09:35
Sure.

1173
2:09:38 --> 2:09:40
Oh yes, I've got your phone number. Yes, I can do that.

1174
2:09:41 --> 2:09:45
Jackie, am I, I have your email address. I'm not sure.

1175
2:09:47 --> 2:09:53
Sorry? Yes, you have. Yeah. If you could email me your phone number. Are you on WhatsApp? I can

1176
2:09:53 --> 2:10:00
send it to you then. Christine, we'll fix it. We'll fix it. Okay. All right. We've got three hands up

1177
2:10:00 --> 2:10:06
and then Stephen, final questions. Thank you, Hayden. Good to meet you. Martin, then Bernie,

1178
2:10:06 --> 2:10:10
then Maverick, and then Stephen, and then we're finishing it at the two and a half hour mark. Go,

1179
2:10:10 --> 2:10:18
Martin. Yeah, thank you very much. Miss Anderson, I just would. Christine, please. Christine. Okay.

1180
2:10:19 --> 2:10:26
Christine, I would just maybe suggest, you see, if you're doing your job in the EU Parliament,

1181
2:10:26 --> 2:10:34
and if you want to prove that it was a special kind of bond that was used in this, in Nord Stream

1182
2:10:34 --> 2:10:42
2, maybe it could also be worth to invalidate the other hypothesis with the divers. So maybe you

1183
2:10:42 --> 2:10:48
could counsel special divers just for your knowledge. You see, if you're diving down to 80

1184
2:10:48 --> 2:10:55
meters, you need a very special composition of the gas you're breathing. And this very special

1185
2:10:55 --> 2:11:03
composition means if you're going down with natural air compression, oxygen will become toxic.

1186
2:11:03 --> 2:11:11
So you have to change your bottles at the level of about 40 meters to another gas formulation.

1187
2:11:11 --> 2:11:17
So to place some, you see, even if there are special divers, even if there are diving instructors or

1188
2:11:17 --> 2:11:26
whatever, they cannot trick out physiology and physics. So they have to adhere to that.

1189
2:11:26 --> 2:11:35
Yeah. And so you need some tanks down at 40 meters. You have to switch them to go further

1190
2:11:35 --> 2:11:41
deep. And when you go up again, you have to re-switch because the oxygen when you're going down

1191
2:11:41 --> 2:11:46
is so low that if you're coming to the surface, you would be killed. So you have to switch

1192
2:11:46 --> 2:11:53
mandatorily on the way down and back on the way up. And these very special gases, I just checked it

1193
2:11:53 --> 2:12:00
for Germany in the region of Berlin. There are only two units who are able to produce this kind

1194
2:12:00 --> 2:12:08
of composition of the gas. So this is not everywhere available and you cannot produce it yourself

1195
2:12:09 --> 2:12:16
on a sailing boat. This is also important to know. So you have to get it somewhere and you see to

1196
2:12:16 --> 2:12:23
prepare for that. This is a military operation. So you need to go down. You have to place those

1197
2:12:23 --> 2:12:30
units there and so on. And if you have a bottom time of, I think, something like seven minutes,

1198
2:12:30 --> 2:12:36
where you're down at 80 meters, you have to have your decompression stops when you're going up,

1199
2:12:36 --> 2:12:43
which needs a long time. And then you have to keep a surface time of several hours before you can go

1200
2:12:43 --> 2:12:50
down again, which means you cannot plant there some units within, I would say, six hours or eight

1201
2:12:50 --> 2:12:57
hours, but you need days, days to do that if you do it with the divers. So it could really make sense

1202
2:12:57 --> 2:13:03
that you're asking an expert on that because then you could invalidate this hypothesis that some

1203
2:13:03 --> 2:13:10
Ukraine special divers went just down there and planted the bombs there. Thank you so much for

1204
2:13:10 --> 2:13:17
that input. That is really important. The thing is just like I said, we have like 60 seconds

1205
2:13:17 --> 2:13:26
to make our case. So this is good information, background information. I might be able to stick

1206
2:13:26 --> 2:13:35
it in, you know, in like three words or something like that. So could you write up what you just

1207
2:13:35 --> 2:13:43
told me? Because I'm totally unaware of that because I'm not a diver, sorry. No, seriously,

1208
2:13:43 --> 2:13:56
I'm not. But you know, we need to make the case, like I said, 60 seconds. It needs to be succinct.

1209
2:13:56 --> 2:14:03
It needs to be so, you know, the information needs to really hit home. And it needs to be presented

1210
2:14:03 --> 2:14:14
in a way that every regular citizen understands what we're talking about. You know what I'm saying?

1211
2:14:14 --> 2:14:22
Yeah, of course. Yeah. But I didn't find your email address. I checked for it because

1212
2:14:22 --> 2:14:27
I could provide some data, but these are just basic. You see, I'm no specialist in diving.

1213
2:14:27 --> 2:14:33
I'm diving myself. I'm giving some basic lectures on diving medicine, but not on the expert level.

1214
2:14:33 --> 2:14:39
I think there are people by far better than myself, but I could provide you some basic items.

1215
2:14:39 --> 2:14:46
Based on that, you could just have 10 words like due to physics, it's not possible to go down

1216
2:14:46 --> 2:14:52
simply in this amount of time. Okay, I just put in my email address once again in the chat.

1217
2:14:53 --> 2:14:58
No, it didn't come. So Martin, I think that Hans Benjamin would appreciate being able to discuss

1218
2:14:58 --> 2:15:03
this with you because you have a lot of knowledge about various things and you are a professor and

1219
2:15:03 --> 2:15:10
a medical doctor in Austria, I believe. Actually, I'm in Germany now. I'm commuting in between

1220
2:15:10 --> 2:15:17
Austria and Germany. Yeah. Can someone check the chat? I just put in my email. Is it in the chat?

1221
2:15:20 --> 2:15:25
It's not in there. So click on on chat. Click on the down arrow so you see.

1222
2:15:26 --> 2:15:34
Okay, I see it. All right. Now it's a being. So, yeah. Martin, maybe you could email me and I'll

1223
2:15:34 --> 2:15:41
put you in touch with Christine and Hans Benjamin or whatever. Let's get moving.

1224
2:15:43 --> 2:15:48
Martin, could I ask you, think about it. You don't have to answer now, but would you

1225
2:15:48 --> 2:15:59
consider being a guest of ours? Of course. I mean, it's just a very limited time. I'm so happy to be

1226
2:15:59 --> 2:16:04
in here today because I cancelled something else this evening because I wanted to meet Christine.

1227
2:16:04 --> 2:16:12
So this was my desire and therefore I cancelled the other thing, but it's not always possible

1228
2:16:12 --> 2:16:22
to cancel. I would love to join you, but you see, I don't want to give the illusion that I'm expert

1229
2:16:22 --> 2:16:29
in this field. I know there are people better. My knowledge is just basics. Yeah. And I think the

1230
2:16:29 --> 2:16:34
group here would deserve an expert. This was Martin, I wasn't thinking about so much about

1231
2:16:34 --> 2:16:38
the Nord Stream. I was thinking more of the medical doctor, your observations from Austria

1232
2:16:38 --> 2:16:44
on what's happened in the last four plus years. Well, there's just maybe...

1233
2:16:48 --> 2:16:53
Now the microphone is on. I would just give you a brief idea of what's going on in Austria now,

1234
2:16:53 --> 2:16:57
because this might be concerning the whole group. We haven't got time, Martin. We've got to go.

1235
2:16:57 --> 2:17:04
We've got Bernie's hand up. We've got Maverick, but it would be great to have you. Bernie,

1236
2:17:04 --> 2:17:10
you had your hand up. Yeah. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Charles, first of all,

1237
2:17:10 --> 2:17:15
love following your show, love being on TNT. You get interviewed by Rick and mine occasionally.

1238
2:17:15 --> 2:17:22
Christine, we met at the... Nice to see you again. We met at the Westminster event with the Heart

1239
2:17:22 --> 2:17:28
Group and we shared a few drinks and a few cigarettes in the pub afterwards. Lovely to see

1240
2:17:28 --> 2:17:33
you again and delighted for the work you're doing. I just wanted to draw your attention to... You

1241
2:17:33 --> 2:17:40
probably know this anyway, but in the context of these deaths, there's quite a lot of it on

1242
2:17:40 --> 2:17:51
the Corona-Ausschuss that was led by... What was his name? The doctor who's currently in jail in

1243
2:17:51 --> 2:17:58
Germany. Rainer Thülmich. Rainer Thülmich. He's not a doctor, though. He did quite a lot very early on,

1244
2:17:59 --> 2:18:04
both on what was happening in New York and in Germany where there were enforced injections

1245
2:18:05 --> 2:18:10
of old people in hospitals and also the use of midazol and various other things to kill them

1246
2:18:10 --> 2:18:19
off early. I know you said the story is around Europe, but if you go back in... I'm sure your

1247
2:18:19 --> 2:18:24
people can find it. If not, we can find it for you. There's a lot of programs. There's a big,

1248
2:18:24 --> 2:18:31
long program he did about... I want to say about two years ago on those events happening in German

1249
2:18:31 --> 2:18:39
hospitals, which he did a program on. I think he's still in prison, so I'm not quite sure that...

1250
2:18:39 --> 2:18:44
I don't know in what context mentioning his name is of use in terms of that because there's

1251
2:18:44 --> 2:18:51
some question mark over why he's in prison, but it sounds like lawfare rather than something genuine.

1252
2:18:51 --> 2:18:55
But I just wanted to highlight that, so if you need that information, I can probably find it.

1253
2:18:57 --> 2:19:04
Now, Bernie, we've been talking about Rainer for some meetings. Thank you for that. It is a show

1254
2:19:04 --> 2:19:12
trial, and he released a statement today on the ICIC website, everybody. We haven't got time to

1255
2:19:12 --> 2:19:20
play it, but he's thinking that there might be some positive movements, but he's been in jail

1256
2:19:20 --> 2:19:24
since October the 30th, and it is outrageous what's happening, Bernie, but thank you for

1257
2:19:25 --> 2:19:33
your comment and for being honest enough to tell us about your drinking and smoking habits.

1258
2:19:35 --> 2:19:44
All right, Maverick. And mine, by the way. I was being polite to our guests. Okay, Maverick, go for it.

1259
2:19:44 --> 2:19:48
Hey, hello, Christine. How are you doing?

1260
2:19:49 --> 2:19:49
Good, how are you?

1261
2:19:50 --> 2:19:57
Not bad. Not bad. Just hanging in there. I have found the emails because I was like, did I

1262
2:19:58 --> 2:20:06
miss something or did it never arrive? We met through the Zoom chat here a year and a half ago

1263
2:20:06 --> 2:20:12
where I sent you an email. The first one, these famous documents that fell off the truck

1264
2:20:12 --> 2:20:18
that you wanted. So I wanted to know if you ever received them because I never got a reply to you.

1265
2:20:18 --> 2:20:30
I sent you one, two, three, four documents, and it was 2022-1026. If you can just write this date

1266
2:20:30 --> 2:20:41
down, you might actually find them. Say again? Directly. 2022-1026. Well, this Canadian version,

1267
2:20:41 --> 2:20:46
so it would be the 26th of the 10th month in 2022. Yeah. Okay.

1268
2:20:50 --> 2:20:59
Yes. Eventually later on, you mentioned in a previous Zoom meeting that, well, you're not the

1269
2:20:59 --> 2:21:06
only one that have access to this email. And then I thought, ah, am I dumb? Now everybody can see this

1270
2:21:07 --> 2:21:14
and you may not be aware of who is really amongst the people that actually look into this email.

1271
2:21:14 --> 2:21:17
Did they really transfer this to you? So is there another way to contact you?

1272
2:21:19 --> 2:21:26
Yeah, there is actually. Let me put in my other email address once again.

1273
2:21:28 --> 2:21:32
I haven't seen it in the chat at all. Oh, you haven't?

1274
2:21:37 --> 2:21:44
Okay. There is another email address. Yes, that was come through. Yep. Yes, this one I see. Okay.

1275
2:21:44 --> 2:21:47
Yep. Good. Okay. And you put another one in there too.

1276
2:21:51 --> 2:22:00
She sent the one which is Christine.Anderson at Europa with an L.Europa.EU. Right. That's the

1277
2:22:01 --> 2:22:07
one I have. That's the address from your parliament. And then I just provided another one

1278
2:22:08 --> 2:22:18
that is, yeah, it's not very much. It's another email address. Just emailing me at both again

1279
2:22:19 --> 2:22:27
to increase the chance of me actually seeing it. Yes. Yes. The last email was a request for a 15

1280
2:22:27 --> 2:22:32
minutes interview because I'm working since now a year. The reason being it's so long, it's that

1281
2:22:33 --> 2:22:39
I've dealt with my own stuff here. So I work time to time on that thing and I add some

1282
2:22:39 --> 2:22:44
little interviews that I've made in this mini movie that I'm planning to make.

1283
2:22:47 --> 2:22:53
Reason being lots of people had asked me about the, well, yeah, go ahead. We've got to go. So

1284
2:22:53 --> 2:22:57
I got the email. Send that to Christine. We're tight on time. Okay. So that's good. Okay. No

1285
2:22:57 --> 2:23:02
problem. Bring it to the top. Yeah. Very good. Thank you, ma'am. Paul and then Stephen. Thank

1286
2:23:02 --> 2:23:10
you, Charles. Thanks, ma'am. Thank you. A 32nd question, Christine. Paul Amaldi, Act for Your

1287
2:23:10 --> 2:23:21
Freedom. We are preparing a small group to go and take part, so to speak, to the G8 in Sicily,

1288
2:23:21 --> 2:23:28
because this year in Sicily, the G8 will be about agriculture. And I have done some research and you

1289
2:23:28 --> 2:23:33
might know that Sicily in particular has been suffering for years for drought. And of course,

1290
2:23:33 --> 2:23:40
that is killing agriculture in Sicily. And during my research, I came across some hints that there

1291
2:23:40 --> 2:23:48
is a plan to replace water pipes and put them sensors to monitor citizens' consumption. And

1292
2:23:48 --> 2:23:52
it's a long shot. This question, I know it's a long shot. And I just wondered whether you,

1293
2:23:52 --> 2:23:57
and I've seen, because I am, I sort of travel around Europe, I've seen a few places,

1294
2:23:57 --> 2:24:05
these places in Europe work, including the UK, where I am a permanent citizen of, work to replace

1295
2:24:05 --> 2:24:11
water pipe. And I was wondering whether it's ever come to your ear, this idea of replacing water

1296
2:24:11 --> 2:24:18
pipes and to put sensors to monitor citizens' consumer consumption. It's a long shot.

1297
2:24:20 --> 2:24:33
No, I'm not aware of they're putting sensors in there to track consumption. What I am aware of

1298
2:24:33 --> 2:24:43
the fact is that they're putting sensors in there to monitor human waste in terms of trying to

1299
2:24:43 --> 2:24:49
identify whether there's an infection going. So is that what you were talking about?

1300
2:24:51 --> 2:24:57
No, actually, no, I heard water, but it could be on the same line. That is, I noticed that in many

1301
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places in Europe, they are replacing pipes. And it just sounds a bit odd to me that this is happening.

1302
2:25:06 --> 2:25:08
How would you replace pipes?

1303
2:25:10 --> 2:25:14
They excavate and they throw away their old pipes and they put new pipes,

1304
2:25:14 --> 2:25:20
water pipes, they say, generically speaking. And I just smell a rat, so to speak. What is this

1305
2:25:20 --> 2:25:27
work going on in small villages in Italy, in France, in the UK? What is this? So I was just

1306
2:25:27 --> 2:25:40
and I read somewhere about this. Frank, I don't know. I mean, what's the point of replacing water

1307
2:25:40 --> 2:25:49
pipes, whatever pipes, the pipes we are having right now is sewage pipes and water pipes.

1308
2:25:49 --> 2:25:56
Why would you replace water pipes to track the consumption of the people? It doesn't make any

1309
2:25:56 --> 2:26:04
sense in order to track the consumption. I mean, if that was impossible, you would have to do it

1310
2:26:04 --> 2:26:12
via the sewage pipes, maybe freshwater pipes are going to give any insight into what happened

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consuming. It wouldn't give you any insight into what infection is going on right now. So you would

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have to target the sewage pipes. So at this point, it doesn't make any sense to me what you're saying,

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but I took it down. I'll try to make sense of it, look into it.

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No, no, but maybe that's what you say. They tell us it's water pipe and in fact the sewage pipe

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and they don't tell us the whole story. I just noticed that they replaced pipes.

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Okay. So if there's no clarification on what pipes you thought they were talking about,

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so yeah, they are tracking the sewage pipes or whatever sewage is coming through those pipes

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to detect infections. And they came up with that with this whole COVID. I mean, they were

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tracking it with PCR tests and blah, blah, blah, but people weren't really into the whole thing of

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getting their nose stabbed like every two days, whatever. So now they're actually tracking the

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sewage to detect human feces, analyze human feces to detect infections. And lo and behold,

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they now figure out that there is a monkeypox epidemic apparently going on

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and they detected that through the sewage. But that's the new thing of doing things apparently.

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And this monkeypox, we will see, no, it's no longer called monkeypox because that would be

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yeah, somehow not right. So it's not empox is what they call it.

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Yeah. Yeah. And so there was like what a few cases in Berlin and in Sweden,

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you know, something popped up. And the point is this, I mean, this epidemic apparently is

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going on in Africa. Why don't they fucking close the borders for God's sakes? Seriously. Sorry.

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Well said. Thank you, Charles. Thank you, Balda. Thank you. Steven, last couple of questions,

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Christine, and then you can go back on your holiday. Isn't he a mean man?

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So in answer to that last question, Christine, from you, I think that they want to take our

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identities away from us. This is really important. They do it through attacking the family,

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which of course undermines society. But they do it in many other ways too. They're trying to

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take our identity from us. And of course, mobile phones and social media play the addiction to

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those two things plays into this. So that young people these days in the United Kingdom can't

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talk to each other. And if they do talk to each other, they find it so unpleasant. They want to

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go straight back to their mobile phones where everybody agrees with them and the social media.

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And so this is really, really dangerous stuff. So Jason Christoph says that the only settled science,

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I think he's right as well. The only settled science is mind control. And if we don't solve

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what's going on with the mind control, then you could argue that no conversations of ours or

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anybody else worth having because we're never going to solve the problem because they're always one

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step ahead with the mind control. And so the people are seeing everything through the lens,

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if you like, of mind control. And so everything. And the other thing is a lot of people have been

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saying that things don't make sense. You know, that why would they do this? You know, why would

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they attack women? Why the Olympics? The whole. So if you want to destabilise human beings, you need to

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create confusion. You need everything not to make sense. And I think that they have,

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they are trying to do this in many, many different ways. Nothing makes sense anymore.

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I think someone was saying that, you know, like three decades ago, there was some,

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maybe it was you, Christine, there was some kind of debate going on between the mainstream media.

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And now these days, everything's all settled, you know, everything's kind of, and nothing's ever

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discussed. And there's one narrative. But and. So I think that, you know, mind control and this

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desire to. So they did in China, as you correctly pointed out, they wanted everybody to wear the

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same clothes, Mao Zedong. And what's that about? That's about taking your individuality away from

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you, your very identity. Why would you sacrifice your individuality to the group? Because

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that's always going to lead to tyranny and misery. Because

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that means if you give up your individuality, you're always telling lies. You're always lying

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about yourself. So you're living a lie. You have no self-respect. You cannot be happy. These things

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need to be discussed in school. They need to be. Well, I don't know how you teach this, but, you

1359
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know, the parents these days, they're terrified of any responsibility. Everybody is terrified of

1360
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responsibility. Walk away from it. We don't in this group. We try not to anyway. And I think that

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we need wisdom. The exact opposite. So everything that they're pushing, like, you know, trying to

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drive a wedge between parents and children and parents and their grandparents. This is evil.

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And it needs to be exposed. The destruction of the. So I don't I have a difficulty in believing

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that's a God, but I do realize that the universe is absolutely so complicated that human beings

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can't even come close to to realizing how big it is, never mind explaining everything, the

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complexity. And so one thing I noticed, Christine, is that people are so certain of everything.

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People are so arrogant. Human beings generally are so incredibly arrogant. And they think they know

1368
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when clearly they don't know. They don't even know how far it is to the sun. Well, I think I know,

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but I'm not sure because I never actually measured it myself, but 93 million miles and 250,000 miles

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to the moon. But most people haven't got a clue, you know, how far it is to the moon or to the sun

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or to Australia, for example, 12,000 miles. And so and then when it comes to history, nothing.

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So I just wondered. We completely lost it. I'm not saying that we can't get it back,

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but we need to identify what the problems are. Stop going down rabbit holes and try to work out,

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try to put all the dots that we've identified and more that we haven't even identified

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together because without some view of the world, you know, whole view as a whole,

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as a human being, and we need to trust our instincts as well. We do in this group. And

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and I thought I was always hoping that someone would prove me wrong. I knew something was wrong

1378
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back in 2010, even 2019. I was arguing with people I didn't understand why. And now I understand.

1379
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So I wish I'd. You know, I mean, you said so many things right now. I could jump on every single

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sentence you just said. Let me start with this. Yeah. You know, basic knowledge. People no longer

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have basic knowledge. And as you pointed out, you know, they have no clue how far the sun is away

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from us or the moon or, you know, any of that. To make my point, there is I mean, there are several

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elected representatives in the Bundestag that they have no fucking clue. They are excuse my language.

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They are in the Green Party. And there was this one, you know, high profile politician.

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And, you know, she was moaning about the fact that, you know, this climate change that is,

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you know, being afflicted upon, you know, people and people are dying. And she was imploring the

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people of Germany. We have to take care of people that live hundreds of thousands kilometers away

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from us because they're dying in floods. I mean, hundreds of thousands of kilometers

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away from Germany. Seriously, where would they put you in space considering that, you know,

1390
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it's like what forty two thousand kilometers? Seriously, these people have no freaking clue

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about what they're even talking about. So next point is you rightly pointed out

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it is an attack on our identity. And it's not only, you know, our cultural identity or national

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identity. Now it's also our our sexual identity. So what they're trying to do is to literally

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obliterate us as human beings. And, you know, what is more fundamental about our identity than our

1395
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sexual identity? And if you take that away and if you say, well, you can be anything, you know,

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at any given point in time. And there is, I mean, you know, I'm not I'm not nuts here. There is

1397
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legislation now, the self ID laws, right. But the self ID laws or the way it started out, it was like,

1398
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well, these people are born this way. You know, they're born in the wrong body. So we should allow

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them to ID themselves. So now they can just go, you know, walk down to to City Hall or whatever

1400
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and claim their, you know, man or woman or whatever. And their birth certificate will be,

1401
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you know, corrected appropriately. So but this the whole thing about being born this way,

1402
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they completely like overturn that by making the provision. Well, you can choose once a year. So

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every 12 months, you can go there. So well, you know, last year, I was wrong. So I wasn't really

1404
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met. I was a woman now. And you know, I want to be this is insane. But this is what's going on.

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And the point is this. Yes, it is an attack on our on our identity, on our individuality,

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which you also pointed out, Steven, because the point is this, if you can be anything,

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at any given point in time, and can change that to whatever, you know, and maybe next week,

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it's a refrigerator, you identify as, or, you know, God only knows what. So what are you going to be

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in the end? And nothing exactly going to be an empty shell, with no soul, with no identity,

1410
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exactly. And then it can be filled with whatever the globalitarian misanthropists

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want you to be filled with. Yeah, that's the whole point. They're stealing our very existence.

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They're stealing our humanity. So what makes us special as human beings, they attack everything

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that makes us special. Exactly. So what that is, is going towards is, you know, individuality.

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And, you know, the enlightenment, pretty much stirred us away from, you know, we have to serve

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for the ancestors that fell, you know, have to pay for them. So they won't burn in hell. You know,

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some kind of like, no, you do not, you do not take any, don't have to bear the responsibility

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of what your ancestors did, the ones that died, you are an individual, you are here, right, and now,

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and you have a right. That is individuality, and enlightenment actually took us to that place,

1419
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you know, the individual is what is important. Yeah. So the other part is collectivism. Yeah,

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sure. And that's what we're driving at once again. You saw during COVID, you know, you have to

1421
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sacrifice your freedom, you know, your well-being, your bodily autonomy for the greater good.

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For the group. For the greater good. All right, come on, we're turning three quarters. All right,

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I could go on and on for that, but fine. Come again, we'll have you again. We've got a lot

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of more questions to ask. Sure. So Christine, one final sentence. So I think to me, it's mind

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control. But then Shakespeare wrote many years ago, all the world's a stage. And I can't remember

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the exact words, and we're mere players. And we have our entrances and exits. Yeah. Well, but the

1427
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thing is, yeah, we are a player on the world stage. But it's your decision if you are a mere pawn

1428
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on this world stage, or if you're a badass. Absolutely. Yeah. Well said. Very good, Christine.

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Thank you so much. Stephen, well done for organizing. Christine, round of applause, everybody.

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I must say, Christine, you've got a remarkable ability to connect with people.

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Because every time you come on, we have great meetings. But when you come on,

1432
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after about an hour and a half, it really develops a life of its own.

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Well done. Thank you. Thanks, everybody. Thanks for having me again. Thank you.