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Isn't it fantastic?
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And so, you know, the perfect is the enemy of good.
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It is good, as I said a couple of days ago, that men can't compete against women in sport.
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It's good that the borders are shut.
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It's good that children's trafficking is being attacked.
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And, and to then say, yeah, but well, no, you know, it is a, it's
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classic line.
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If you look for shit, there's plenty of shit.
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If you focus on shit, your life will be shit.
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So let's get this show on the road.
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In today's discussion, this group was founded by Dr. Steven Frost almost four years ago
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with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.
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At this time, we remember Rainer Fulmick unlawfully incarcerated in a German jail, undergoing a
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show trial.
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We call on his immediate release from jail.
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Publicize his situation as much as you are able.
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I'm Charles Coviss, the moderator of this group.
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I'm Australasian passion provocateur.
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and damage from bad medical advice.
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Bad medical advice is now the number one killer of people in America, ahead of heart attacks
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and cancer and diabetes.
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I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company.
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We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world.
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Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.
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Now, many of us proudly say, yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers.
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confirmed, no vaccine ever in the history of mankind has been properly tested for safety
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or efficacy, safety and efficacy.
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None, none, zero.
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and where you're from.
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so we can follow you.
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is only one of [privacy contact redaction] world war.
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I assess we're five years into a seven year war.
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There's nothing more important as I've got a friend of mine with a beautiful young wife
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who's going through some cancer problem and that's when you realise health is pretty good
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As the Dalai Lama would say, you Westerners are crazy.
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You spend your, you spend your health chasing wealth and then when you've got your health,
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you want to use it to get your wealth back.
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Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join.
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We'll listen to our guest presenter today, Alexander Makouris, who I will introduce in
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the moment for as long as Alex wishes to speak.
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This is a free speech environment with appropriate moderating.
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Free speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human freedoms.
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Some of you, some of you have yet to learn what appropriate moderating is, but as the
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If you're offended by anything, be offended.
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Similarly, we reject the triggering industry.
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Don't you dare say anything, Alexander, that may trigger someone to do something.
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They are both fraudulent attacks on free speech.
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However, we come with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear.
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Fear is the opposite of love.
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Love, on the other hand, expands you and liberates you.
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We thank you, Alexander, for giving us your time and sharing your wisdom and insights.
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So Alexander was born in Athens in Greece on the 20th of March, 1961, everybody.
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So the 20th of March, send him a birthday card, put it in your diary.
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He arrived in London in September 1968 when he was seven years of age.
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He educated at the University College London, graduated B.A.
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He passed his solicitor finals in 1987 and was called to the bar in 2006.
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He was a political adviser, speechwriter to the Minister of Culture in Greece, 1981 to
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He's been a writer, commentator on Russian and world affairs for the last 12 years.
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He's the co-founder of the Duran website, 2016 and the Duran channel, 2018.
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My background is Hungarian, Alexander, although I'm both I was born in Australia, but both
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parents are Hungarians, president of the Australia Hungry Chamber of Commerce.
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And it's wonderful having that exposure to a couple of cultures.
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And the only culture, as you well know, as an expert on culture, is the culture in
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Thank you for creating this group and for organising Alexander to be with us today.
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Alexander, over to you and you can share your screen if you wish.
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Alexander, can I just say a quick word to Charles?
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So I noticed that President Trump has there's been an executive order to restore plastic
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straws in America. Did you see that?
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I did. Well, it's highly significant, I think.
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And I was wondering, Charles, whether you think we should try to get a message to Trump
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and ask him whether you could create an executive order to order Germany to release the
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Ranapalmik.
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Yes, there is an excellent idea and there are steps being taken to that end.
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I know that they've been doing that.
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So let's make noise.
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And it's our connections and there's so many things to do.
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300 Spartans.
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Let's find the pressure point.
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I remind you all, how does a lion kill an elephant?
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Because a lion can't kill an elephant.
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What the lion does is take a bite out of an elephant's foot and waits for the elephant
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to bleed to death.
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elephant down because there are so many people making so much money making our lives
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miserable in the name of a fraudulent climate emergency.
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And I say that for those of you watching the recording who think I'm ignorant, I've
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There is no such thing.
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Alexander, let's go.
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We're all ears for as long as you wish to speak to us.
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And we love GA. Well, you know what we love.
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A lot, lots of things to say.
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which wasn't in that bio.
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Briefly, we were talking about freedom.
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The reason I came to London in 1968 was because there was a military coup in my country.
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That's the same Greece in 1967.
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My parents were opposed to the military government.
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They were out of the country.
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I was not.
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You worry about freedom, obviously, liberty.
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You can't leave your home.
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You can't go to see movies.
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You can't walk with your family out in a park.
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You can't do those kind of things.
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So that makes you think about freedom.
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It also makes you think about issues of power and due process and all of those things,
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because, of course, dictatorships can be very arbitrary things.
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When I came to Britain in 1968 as a child of seven, it was quite extraordinary to experience
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that passes, you see that freedom gradually whittle away.
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It's not as bad as I remember it being in Greece when I was a child.
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We're not in a dictatorship yet, but it is becoming more like one all the time.
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And also, obviously, dictatorships do not like free speech.
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That is a given.
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Well, that used to be fully understood.
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And it was part of the legal theory of free speech, that the very nature of free speech
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was the ability to say things that other people will find offensive.
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Now, that has been challenged.
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It's challenged every day.
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It's challenged by the mayor of London, Mr. Sadiq Khan, who says that the purpose
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Comfortable being, of course, the opposite of being offended.
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So if you say things that might offend people, you're making them uncomfortable.
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And that is wrong, or so we're told.
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And increasingly, it is the target of, if you like, the new law.
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Because speech has been radically, the laws on speech in England have been radically
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Now, this summer, something very extraordinary, rather frightening happened in Britain.
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And that is that there was an incident, there was a violent incident involving a man who
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Not, I think, very big protests.
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There was talk about riots.
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I can say quite certainly that there were very few riots, extremely little violence,
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probably no more violence over the course of the summer than one saw happen in Britain
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In Britain, we often get riots in the summer.
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They were put through what you might call assembly line justice.
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Cases were decided within half an hour.
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Inconsequential, unimportant things.
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But they get attacked for it all the time.
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And of course, all of this has come and it is not a coincidence.
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After the events of the so-called pandemic, the restrictions that took place then, which
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were, of course, also ferociously opposed.
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So with every day, I see that free speech that we used to have gradually whittled away
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in Britain.
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It is a country which prides itself on having been a pioneer in free speech.
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But no more or so it seems to me.
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So that is what I wanted to say.
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So Alexander, I have not had a chance to speak to you, but I would have asked you whether
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you wanted to make a presentation or whether you wanted to take questions from the press
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I should say, this is perhaps a presentation, but we are in a period of extraordinary change.
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And I think that is what we are going to be doing in the future.
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Perhaps a presentation, but we are in a period of extraordinary change.
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Alexander, I have got a question now, which I will forget if I do not ask now.
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And that is, do you think that what happened in 2020, i.e. global coup d'etat, was necessary,
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was absolutely necessary for the Southport incident which you talked about, you know,
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and the cancelling of free speech and the cancelling of justice.
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without what happened in 2020, i.e. the lockdowns and the isolation of human beings?
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I think that events, the lockdown, the isolation of human beings was part of a trend
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that had already begun before. And I think that is an important thing to say.
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and it also showed to government that they could impose restrictions of that nature,
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and they could do it, that there would be minimal process if they did it.
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So, Alexander, have you worked out why it is that there has been such a dramatic change in the UK,
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in particular? And are you aware of the significance of isolating human beings?
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isolation in prisons, and then they decided to isolate human beings all around the world,
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it was the isolation of human beings and the breaking of habits, because human beings are very,
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how shall I say, they're very in love with their own habits, and they don't change them easily.
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of a lifetime, and they can't get back, they can't find themselves. I just wonder what you think
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about the, you know, had you appreciated the importance of isolating human beings?
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Well, it was a deliberate, I think it was a, I think it was a deliberate strategy. I don't mean
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that every single official of the governments were, you know, united behind it, or every single
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and the machinery, the mechanics of it had already been prepared for some time. And I have no doubt
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of this at all. I mean, the fact that it was done, that it was unrolled so fast, so quickly,
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you've seen that when things like that do happen, people do discuss them in advance. There is
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planning and discussion and that kind of thing. I've been surprised repeatedly to find that things
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I've seen that many times. Now about isolation. Remember, I'm Greek. I was brought up in a very
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social animals. That is the nature of us, that we are social animals. In Greece, again,
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and I'm talking about, you know, by heritage, we have this concept of polytheia. Polytheia,
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which of course evolves into politics, is a much, much more social thing than this. It involves
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It is about absolutely everything that goes to make us human. It is part of the nature of humanity
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Oh, thank you so much for that. I think maybe your... Sorry, go on, Charles.
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Steve, I'm thinking so people, you know, you can ask questions, but it might be rather go for 15
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Jerry can do it, yeah, and take the pressure off me.
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let's do it that way. Hello, Alexander. Maybe I'll put on my camera so you've got some sort of
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idea who I am. Hey, everybody, I'm so excited. I'm going to be in Dublin with Jerry on the 26th and
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27th of February. And you're going to be one very, very intoxicated man, I can assure you.
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Alexander, I just want to say to you a number of things I want to say. Number one, I've watched you
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You know, I'm looking at you and I think this guy is so familiar, his voice, every movement,
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every I know so much about you. And I remember when I used to see the pram there behind you.
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Yeah, well, I remember the use of a pram sat there behind you. What have you got? Twins?
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All girls. You really got the hang of it, haven't you? Absolutely.
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How old are they now? What age are they? Well, the twins are three. The third child is now 18 months.
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Is that right? Yeah. It really is fabulous. I tell you, Alexander, it's when you get to
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be a grandfather, you really appreciate your children. You know, no, I just want to say to you,
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you are without a doubt a world or the world expert on what's going on over there. Partly,
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you know, I can say that with a degree of certainty in that I've watched you
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since the beginning of the war. You've been right all along.
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Well, that's nice to be told. I have an awful lot of help from many, many people
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unfortunately talk about all of them, who they are. But people from Britain, from Germany,
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And of course, I've had longstanding connections with Russia. I should say I'm not a Russianist
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myself. My wife is. She speaks Russian. She's not Russian. She speaks Russian, but she knows the
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universities in Russia. She knows the academic world. And through those contacts, I've had a
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political language, which is not the same as the political language in the West. So when you
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other. Yeah, that's I've been surprised at your pronunciation of the, like, how you get your tongue
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I often wondered, you know, we actually pronouncing them right, you know, I suppose your wife would
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obviously know that your pronunciation was right. And the other thing I've noticed over the years
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is that you very carefully skirted around COVID, which is probably wise for you in a sense. You
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stayed out of that area. So perhaps I'll introduce myself. I'm Dr. Gerry Waters from Ireland,
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a Selberge in Ireland. And five years ago, I recognised that there was no virus as such in
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the masks, the social distancing. There was no virus there. There was nothing there. There was
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no need. There's no requirement for special drugs, no requirement for any of that. And I said so.
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In so doing, I incurred the wrath of the Irish Medical Council. And when they introduced the
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vaccine, I refused to administer the vaccine. I was suspended from the Irish Medical Register
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a legal proceedings with the Medical Council. And it kind of looks like they're going to just drop
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the case after four years of me being punished. So the reason I'm telling you this, Alexander,
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is that I'm as close an expert as you can get to actually what happened. Because the reality of
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And the whole point, the whole crux of the COVID hoax was the deaths, the actual number of people
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dying. Nobody but nobody died from COVID per se. Take it from me for somebody who spent 40 years
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on the cold, at the cold face of general practice. Pretty much nobody died from COVID. And we were
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you cycle those things, you double the number of particles found. So what I'm saying to you is,
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you know, as I say, I'm about as close as an expert as you can get to the pathogenicity of the virus.
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And, you know, I say, I'm telling you this because I know over the last four years, you've been
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wisdom, he decided to stay out of it. Well, can I just say straightforwardly,
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as I'm sure you have, you will have noticed that there are many moments when I discuss
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is that I'm constantly having to second guess what the sensors, because they do exist. They may be
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sensors in the form of a machine, the so-called algorithm, but behind the algorithm, there are
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position. Do you discuss something? Do you go straight out and talk about it? I am not a doctor,
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remember, I have no medical background. Perhaps on the COVID issue, what I say does not carry much
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authority. But do I go about it? Do I discuss it? Do I discuss all those medical things, and then
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and avoid doing so and discuss other things, which I feel I need to discuss?
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Well, it is a terrible position to be in. It is a shameful decision to be in. You will always have
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doubts about the choices you make. You will ask yourself, have you been a coward? Or have you
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done the right thing? We took the decision on the Duran that we would
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That was the decision we had to make. And can I just say the free speech issue has not changed?
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what we can say in any public forum about COVID. It is the pressure which you have experienced,
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obviously, as a doctor, which is on a completely different scale. And by the way, can I just say,
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what a terrible thing that was? And what a terrible indictment of the entire legal
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and medical culture of Ireland. It is that that should have been done to you. And this is
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particularly shameful in a country like Ireland with its particular history, which we all know.
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Well, the fact remains, as I said, that those pressures are still there. I hope that they're
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Kennedy looks like he's going to be health secretary in the United States, it's likely that he will be
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And I think that the public is now ready for it. But that's what I can say.
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I got to admit, you're dead right. You're perfectly right to stay quiet on that.
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No, I'm not perfectly. I am not perfectly right. No, I'm not. I cannot use the word perfectly
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As I said, we were, we decided on the Duran that we were performing a useful service discussing,
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talking about politics, talking about the geopolitical realities of the world. And
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we decided that we weren't going to risk our voice, losing our voice on that, in order to discuss a
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topic which we were not expert on. But to say that it was a perfect decision, or even the right
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decision, I'm not sure that it was. Just to say. But you're there. You're still there. We're still
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there. You're still there. And you're still telling us. And you're channeling information to us.
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You know, those of us who hope you should get it. Jerry, you missed the point. So he hasn't defeated
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the tyranny though, the COVID tyranny. That's what he means. But the same token, there are some
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overall knowledge of what's going on in the Ukraine that they were right. I'll stick to the idea.
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You're perfectly right to stick to your knowledge. Can I say something about the
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Lies told about COVID. Lies told about Ukraine. Lies told about the whole geopolitical issue.
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Now, we were able on the Duran to expose many of the lies that were told about Ukraine,
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Now, the people who were telling those lies, the lies about the politics, about the policy,
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by the very same president who was himself involved so deeply in the conflict in Ukraine.
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We can expose some lies on certain issues. We can't expose all lies on all issues. Everybody has a
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one wants to believe, I'm not sure how far I do believe, but it does make people more skeptical
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about some of the things that they're told, more questioning of the lies that they're told about
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But we can't leave out global climate change. As I often say, I ran in two elections,
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Any situation, I had no aspirations to be a politician. I wouldn't make a good politician
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because I'm just not a nice enough person. I attacked them every time on the anthropogenic
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global climate change, primarily because when I was in university in the 70s, when you were a child,
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they were telling us about global cooling, that we were expecting glaciers down to the
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this, of my knowledge of it, they turned around and they told us, no, no, no, it wasn't going to be
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global cooling, it's going to be global warming. And Michael Mann came along with his hockey stick,
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which of course has now proven to be totally, absolutely, completely false on the basis of the
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tree rings that he used. So what I'm saying to you is these exact same people had in my lifetime,
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my scientific lifetime, the global cooling, global warming and then climate change.
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And again, as you say, it's all about the lies. And I will claim that each of us have to fight
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our area of expertise. And how can I say as a medical doctor that I can fight
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having expertise in climate change, primarily because I did chemistry in the early 70s
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I think you're dead right in avoiding those areas.
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Well, can I say on climate change, actually, I have personally spoken out against the issue
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of climate change in several formats and several values. Maybe not so much on the Durand because
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it is. It's just chance. But, you know, when I was a student in the 1970s, as one does, one
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goes and looks and reads some unusual literature. And there was a shop very near my university,
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a very good shop where they used to sell Soviet publications in English. And I bought one,
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which is a magazine called Sputnik, which the Soviets used to pump out all the time.
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about carbon, about whatever, it's there in that article. It's exactly there. And of course,
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written in the late 1970s. But I think that scientist who wrote that article was writing
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in good faith. Climate science was very much in its infancy then. He didn't quite know.
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And I've read about him elsewhere. I think he was a genuine scientist. He got it wrong.
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But somewhere, somehow, somebody picked this all up. And you know, when I say this particular
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was developed out of it. Because that's what climate change is. It's a cult.
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Well, there's a lot of money behind it, remember. There's a huge amount of money.
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Net zero. There's billions depending on the net zero concept. So it is a cult, but it's a highly
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paying cult. But so was Covid. So was the vaccine. So is Ukraine. Always there is money behind
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anything. Covid was more than that. I do believe that there was a Malthusian element of Covid.
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You know, the Malthus idea of reducing populations and that. I'm firmly convinced with my medical
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climate change thing. Human beings are wrecking the climate. We are destroying nature. We are
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anything of that kind. I mean, there is a. It is very much there. So yes, I absolutely agree
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about Covid. There is a there was a Malthusian quality to it and very much a controlling
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quality. But there is a bit there is misanthropy about the whole environmental movement.
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Human beings are seen as a problem. Yes, they, you know, they create, they disrupt the climate.
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to build houses or cut down trees or do any of those things. Unfortunately, there is an element
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of truth in it that we do. We do tend to be rather distrusting. Well, of course, I'm not saying and
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Charles, I was hearing was somebody who's run an organic farm and I'm not against these things.
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All I'm saying is that when it's taken to the level of fanaticism, which it is with some people,
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it has a particularly. We're not going to shame Charles. We're not going to manage to shame Charles.
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No, I'm all in favour of organic things. I go for bio organic lines, you know, the bio organic
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I'm going to you're going to have to go if I left if I've left any information in his brain at all,
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somebody's going to have to ring it out of them. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Well
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done. Well done, Jerry and well done on your on your fight. And I'm training to be able to drink
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more Guinness. So I mean, I'm in training, Stephen. Okay, thank you, Jerry. Good. Sebastian.
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Alexander, one of the things I've realised in the last five years, it took me a while to realise it.
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So it's interesting that we've never spoken, you and I, but you have and I haven't watched your
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videos either apart from the one I saw recently, which led to me asking whether we could have you
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platform here or whatever you want to call this group. And we've had twice weekly meetings for
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three and a half years or whatever, religiously almost. So you could argue we've got a cult too.
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But one of the things that I've come to realise is that human beings have been amazingly disappointing
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in my eyes since 2020. It took [privacy contact redaction] a dangerous
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irrational things. I am not someone who despairs of humanity in general. I think that over time,
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and opposition. And eventually, the sort of contrary wave comes and people go back and they
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look back and they say, Is it really possible that we believed all those things? Is it really
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to believe, to accept authority, to accept what we are told is learned authority. This is one of the
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great things about COVID and indeed about climate science, which we were talking about, is that,
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of course, the people who promote these things come with tremendous trappings of knowledge and
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scholarship and, you know, prestige because they have all kinds of important positions.
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And they tell us that they're experts about these things. And most of us, because we're not experts,
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as I said, humanity, I think, figures it out. That is my own view. And by the way,
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A cult, by definition, is not an organization. It's not a group of people who engage in dialogue
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discussion and criticism and who are prepared to say offensive things.
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Okay, Alexander, that is not what cults do.
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Here's the question for you. Have you looked up the etymology of the word cult?
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No, I have not. I'll be interested.
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0:45:02 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction] to cultivate. Okay, so it's people who nurture, support, cultivate. So,
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you know, it's it's a, but then it's been hijacked, of course, the meaning of it. But that
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was his origins.
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Yeah.
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Okay, Sebastian, come on. Grill Alexander. I've got lots of questions for him as well,
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Stephen. So don't worry, I've got I've got sticks to make.
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We've got people who know about totalitarianism, not least Yevgeny Legedin, who's also an expert
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on the classics in world literature. He spoke for four hours on one of our meetings about books.
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0:45:45 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]e who are on now to ask questions. Sometimes they get a bit shy,
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Alexander. Maybe it's your British accent.
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They're not shy. Come on, Sebastian.
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Good evening, Alexander, and great to see you again.
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Great to see you.
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0:46:10 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction] like to follow up on Jerry's on Jerry's comments a while ago, that, you know, Alexander
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and Alex did not follow up on COVID. We actually did, but we did not do it on YouTube because of
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Rumble, as well as on Locals.com, where we are primarily doing the work. And so they tried,
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0:46:42 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]cumvent YouTube. And when it comes to expertise, and the word has fallen quite a
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few times, Alexander always started off his, you know, when this Ukraine thing started,
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he was very, very interested in the whole topic of what was happening in Ukraine, what was happening
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all around the world, not only Ukraine, because there are multiple conflict zones in the world.
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And the knowledge that he has gained over the years, even because I was or am a military
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person, I had to tip my hat off to Alexander because he was a very, very, very, very, very
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I'm a military person. I had to tip my hat off to Alexander because he has seen things and
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0:47:34 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ed outcomes. And Alex as well, because both of them are the Durand, they work as a team.
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0:47:40 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ually come through. And his knowledge towards the Russian diplomacy,
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the language, exceptional. And really, that is the coming back to the expertise, Jerry,
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it is a matter of fighting the war, but choosing your battles correctly and carefully.
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And that's what we're all doing. I mean, it's here, the international doctors, we call it ethics.
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It's the Durand for geopolitics. Everyone is fighting the battle that they can fight
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and trying to win it. But Alexander, I would like to ask you, don't you find it paradox,
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maybe even cynical that we in the free world, which we know as the West, that we live in,
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that we're slowly, this freedom is slowly dying out while simultaneously, we have the eastern world,
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0:48:37 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ated by communism. They were subjugated by the communists, that they are
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actually heroine, the old values of faith, freedom of speech, humanity, family, religion,
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0:48:53 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] had, we're losing while the communist, ex communist states are losing.
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Where do you think this is going to end? And do you see any hope for the rest of the Western
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world to regain these old values? These are enormous questions, if I could say.
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0:49:12 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ates, why people have the people in the east held on to these things
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more? Because I think they have done, by the way, I mean, if you follow Russian debate, it is actually
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surprisingly open, much more so in some respects than it is in the West. Well, I'm going to suggest
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to what it is than maybe we are. And they are perhaps more sensitive to the misuse of language
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than we are. There was, in Soviet times, there was this expression that you, that officials, that
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politicians use what was called is opium language from ESOP, by the way, in other words,
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about. And it makes them particularly not just sensitive to it, but on their guard against it,
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0:50:26 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] that we are we perhaps are not. And of course, it also means, and this is an important
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difference in speech, particularly when people talk about politics, I don't just mean politicians,
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I mean, people at every level of society, is that when Russians talk about politics, they don't talk
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politics. And that is an important difference, because of course, cliches are stultifying.
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They are a shortcut to avoid thinking about things. And they mean that language is not
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0:51:11 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] I'm going to say something further, that if you're talking about Russia,
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and you're familiar with Russian literature, there has always been a certain tendency in Russia
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of the Soviet period, this is this appears to be coming back.
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0:51:38 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] another follow up on the science. You know, we were subjugated,
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0:51:45 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]arted with the COVID. And of course, it was follow the science and the hubris of one particular
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person, who we all know quite well, Anthony Fauci, you know, I am the science. I think that is one of
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0:52:01 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ually joined this group also, because we have all the experts here. And you can
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0:52:10 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction], you can literally connect. We just recently had Richard Jeffs on here on this group.
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0:52:17 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ed all of this pretty much, the different wars, Charles always says, he didn't
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say this evening, strangely enough, Charles, that we're fighting a war with seven different,
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I think it's seven different battlefields. Well, I did say it. Well, that was different.
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And one of those battlefields is geopolitics, or one of them is medicine. And the other one is
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fascism, of course. And Jeff, Richard, Richard Jeffs puts it very, very well, he connected it
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all to the secret societies. Now, with WEF is one of them, the World Economic Forum, we see the
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moving this, you know, this tentacle, this, this, I don't even want to call it an octopus, because
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octopus only has eight arms. This is much, much larger than that. But maybe Charles would like to
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even expound on that, you know, what these 12 different battlefields are. Well, I'd be very,
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0:53:11 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ed to hear. I'll get to quickly before Charles, if Charles does want to speak,
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0:53:16 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction] get to say quickly, very, very quickly, that I absolutely do think there's been a change
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that an awful lot of things are going on, which one doesn't know about, that an awful lot of
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decisions are made that are not being discussed, that things happen, which don't just happen,
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somebody's obviously made the decisions about them. Now, that wasn't true. And I don't think
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I'm idealizing, but it wasn't true, you know, before. And it's, it's been developing and
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if you want to say something, Charles, if you want to, I do. So thank you. Thank you, Sebastian. Yes,
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I call this, you know, World War Three, what is this World War Three, or many people have come to
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this group out of Canada, that World War Two is ongoing, you know, the Nazis never surrendered.
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And that so this could be World War Three, or ongoing World War Two. And I call this the war
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0:54:29 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] government overreach and one, and the one world government agenda. So that's the war. So
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0:54:35 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] we identified as the war? And the 12 battlefronts, I have them in four groups of three
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0:54:42 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]en to these just quickly, I'll just I'm not going to expand on I'll
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0:54:49 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] run through them. But you said something, Alexander, Sebastian, you as well, Stephen,
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remember, we've talked about this, each one of us, when you go to a war, a real normal war,
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you can't fight every battlefront, you make a decision, you get posted somewhere, or you go,
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hey, I want to do this bit. In fact, I was watching a, I was watching a film, you know,
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0:55:18 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ion for each one of us is, what role are you going to play? Now, you can be on one
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of these battlefronts. But there are also people who need to be in the background doing fundraising,
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doing developing resources, it capabilities. And think about a war, there are people who are
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the 12 legal case, the top three legal cases, harnessing the power of the people to fight back
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0:55:59 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction] three. The next three battlefronts are politically influencing existing parties,
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we're all part of that. Number five, creating new political parties. Number six, the spiritual
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battle that we're in, which is the battle of good and evil. Right? So that's, that's a big element
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of this. Number seven, scientific medical debates. This is, you know, that's such a distraction. I
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the quality of the timber of the deck chairs on the Titanic. While the Titanic's going down,
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we're having a bullshit debate about a virus. So number seven is the scientific medical debate.
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Number eight is in business, Alexander, you and I as lawyers, restore the checks and balances in
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the Magna Carta came, you know, we've got buddy, 800 plus years of, of experience. Number nine,
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augmentation agenda, particularly of Singularity University. So those 12. And then it helps me
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not doing anything. There's amazing work being at Dave Colum, who's going to ask a question in a
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at life. You know, that's what he's doing. And then Anders, he's going to talk about him and Mark
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Steele, they're talking about a deep understanding of 5g and electromagnetic frequencies. So the one
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0:57:48 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ion, so they're the 12 battlefronts, I'll happily send those, I'll post them here so that
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0:57:53 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]and. Now, the question I have for you before we go to Dave,
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my father was Hungarian, my parents were Hungarian. And, and I'm in organic farming,
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1965, when I went to my first naturopath, and there are naturopaths on this call,
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that, that the medical system is literally fucked. I knew that in 1965, I went to this naturopath,
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I don't have a doctor, I'm 72. I don't, I've never been to a hospital for ill health, because I knew
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what I ate created my body. There's another saying, I've said, it's said that you are what you eat.
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That's partly true. It's more accurate to say you are what you don't eliminate. And most people are
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literally full of shit. That's why they're unhealthy. Now, quality food is like, I can't
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stress enough, Stephen, you know, the community, we should be promoting every meeting here, get
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0:58:56 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] Jerry, get your Dublin flute, the Irish food supplies, have secret ways
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that you can survive for a year without the system. Now, one question, the Ukraine, my dad,
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0:59:13 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]s said to me that the Ukraine land is so fecund, one of my favorite words in the English
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language, that literally, the Ukraine could feed [privacy contact redaction]e alone. What's your information on
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the quality of the soil of the Ukraine? I cannot, I cannot, I cannot give a number, but that it is
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extremely fertile, that it is extremely fecund is absolutely true. It was not particularly,
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0:59:49 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]ly as you said, it is, it's the so called Black Earth zones are enormously important
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in potential agricultural terms. And this is undoubtedly a major aspect of the conflict,
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because it's seen by some people, you know, the Black Earth zones have been seen by some people as
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an important asset, which people are fighting over. We've heard an awful lot about the mineral
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worth, wealth of Ukraine, which is probably overstated, by the way, the agricultural,
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potential agricultural wealth of Ukraine is not. By the way, this has a very, very long history.
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Again, I'm an Athenian, just to say in ancient Athens, Athens imported its food from what is
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now Ukraine. The grain ships came to Greece to Athens from Ukraine. And the way we in which
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prevent the food from Ukraine, what is what we now call Ukraine reaching Athens. So this is a very,
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it's got a very, very long history. I should say that the Black Earth area is in the south of Ukraine.
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It's been the most bitterly fought over area. And more and more of it is passing under Russian control.
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Thank you. That's the most helpful and I will spend some, you know, being provoked to ask this
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1:01:28 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ion reminds me I'll spend some more time understanding that. But that's a beautiful example.
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Beware of the resources that God gives you because there'll be lots of fighting over it. Now talking
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1:01:36 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction] Colum, Jerry, my favorite form of poetry is limericks. And I'm
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forced, Stephen, to burst into poetry. Since Alexander mentioned Spartan and it goes like this,
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there once was a fellow from Sparta who was a really magnificent fatter on the strength of
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proper persuasion his fart to suit any occasion. He could fart like a fluke, like fart like a flute,
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like a lark, like a lute, this highly far-tistic Caucasian. And it goes off another 13 verses that
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I could recite for you here by memory, but I won't. But anyway, thank you for the reference to
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Sparta. Thank you very much, Charles. And you won't recite them to us, Charles, because of your
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for our perceived. Yes, no doubt we'll hear them all in Dublin in a couple of weeks. Wonderful.
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1:02:40 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction] Colum, what's what's what I asked you this question. What's the origin of
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Colum? Scottish, I think. I think it lost a mick. I think it lost the mick along the way.
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So I think we're probably from the Highlands somewhere. That's my guess. I actually trace
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my roots back through 23andMe to an inbred tribe in the Neander Valley.
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So Alexander, Dave is a professor of chemistry at the Library League University. So if you've got
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anything that's mystified you since you were at school about chemistry, you can ask him now.
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Well, I can. I mean, I should say that chemistry was appallingly badly taught at my school.
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We were given a lesson in the periodic table at about the age of 11, and then we were put
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in front of bunsen burners and we were doing all kinds of things, experiments, which were
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which is that experts, real experts, are not afraid of debate. It comes back to free speech issues.
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If somebody who calls him or herself an expert is trying to suppress views alternative to themselves,
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then they are not experts.
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So there weren't many experts in the Covid times then?
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No, there were not. And that is something that was exposed. And it is a very, very,
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us that they were the experts, firstly, they were not experts, but they were in positions of
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were experiencing was wrong, but they couldn't put a finger on it as to what was wrong.
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They weren't well.
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Yes, okay.
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I think this is going to be one of the great challenges of the Trump administration, if I
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can say. I mean, a point has been made that, you know, you mustn't expect perfection from what the
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1:05:18 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ration has done. I think it's done an awful lot, actually, in three weeks' time, far
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1:05:23 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ed. But this will be one of its great tests. I mean, it really needs to
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actually open the files, open the doors, get us to understand what really happened and to hold those
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who did do those things to account properly.
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Absolutely. There are very few who do understand what happened, though, I find, Alexander. But I
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1:05:48 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] likely to get there are people like you, who have their minds constantly
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open, are willing to hear other ideas and to test and to talk to people, essentially. And that's how
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human beings solve their problems. And I think that things have to get worse, arguably, before
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they get better. And it's not all to do with logic. You know, we think we have to be incredibly
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logical. You said yourself, you'd observe changes, but you couldn't actually work out what the changes
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were. You couldn't actually see the red line or whatever. And I agree. I think that human beings
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have this amazing capacity to get together, work out what happened, don't actually have to articulate
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it, but they kind of feel it. And then they move together to make things better when they had become
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terrible, such as, well, for example, in the United States. So people are saying, oh, you know, the UK
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1:06:45 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ralia is finished and New Zealand's finished and USA is OK now. But three
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weeks ago, they weren't OK. You know, America was lost for four years. And that was a source of great
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discomfort to me. Absolutely. To me, to me also, by the way. OK, let's keep moving.
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Dave, so our favourite chemistry teacher here, Alexander. By the way, one of Dave's salutary
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comments that he makes in his annual review is that someone said of Dave Colin that he could
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1:07:22 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ing. So there you are. And then proceeded to describe
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1:07:29 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]e of things. One is your description of chemistry. It hasn't
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changed. You described it to a T. The Ukraine story that you have spelled a lot of ink over,
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what's so strange about it to me is that the truth seems to be in plain sight in the sense that
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1:07:54 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]s there, I'm ultimately a pro-Putin guy at this point saying, look,
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1:08:02 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] hand he had at that point. NATO was the problem. And it didn't take a huge
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amount of work to figure that out. What caught my eye actually was the mention of the screep
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holes poisoning in the bio. And years ago, when that happened, I dug into that. And the first thing
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that I noticed was that the claim that it was uniquely Russian technology was the most
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1:08:30 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]t. And so I went out on Twitter and said, they're lying.
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And next thing I knew, I was doing weekly George Galloway interviews and Al Jazeera.
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I've done a ton of Russian Today interviews. So they could call me anytime they want to yank
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to say something bad about something. But it turned out that the organic chemistry behind the
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design a synthesis. And they all got full credit. The question I have for you is what the hell was
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that all about? My conclusion is that it probably came from port and downs. And it did not look like
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1:09:17 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]e would say, well, if not the Russians, then who? And the
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1:09:22 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]t who wanted to make it look like it came from the Russians.
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So what's your take on that? Well, I think that's probably right. I mean, the difficulty with the
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script case is that that was a corrupted investigation from the very first moment.
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1:09:37 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]er, Theresa May, got up in the House of Commons. This is almost as soon as
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the script was found unwell. This is before any proper investigation had been launched.
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And she said, it is highly likely, those are the famous words, that the Russian government,
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that the Russian authorities were involved. Now, I mean, when I worked in the Royal Courts of
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1:10:04 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]ice, I've had dealings with the police. I know how the police work. I know how senior
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1:10:10 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]er comes up and says that in the House of Commons on the basis
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of so-called intelligence information, which, of course, we've never seen. The police are going
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1:10:21 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]eer, and that's going to shape their entire investigation from that moment
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1:10:26 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] And that was precisely what happened. Every part of the investigation was clearly
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1:10:38 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]ive of reaching what was already a pre-decided outcome.
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So in that kind of spirit, you can't assume that anything is true. And there hasn't been
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1:10:53 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]igation of the Skripal case. It's not being conducted. I mean, I know about it. By the
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way, one thing I do know about is investigations. I used to have to review many, many investigations
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1:11:05 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] You can't say that there's been an investigation. You can't say that
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1:11:12 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] been followed through. You don't know how this event came about.
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You don't even know exactly what did actually happen. What was the events that took place?
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1:11:30 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction], what you've said about the fact that, you know, was it Novichok,
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you know, that this is not a unique Russian technology. There was an earlier case,
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the Litvinenko case, which was a man who was poisoned with polonium. And again, it's not
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widely known, but during the public inquiry that was set up to the absolute dismay and astonishment
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of the judge who was chairing the inquiry, the government's expert witness came forward and said,
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no, it's not true that polonium, whatever it was, which is the chemical that was used against
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Litvinenko, that that only originates in Russia. Nor is it particularly difficult to find, nor is
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1:12:22 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] been produced in Britain. That's what she said.
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And you could, if you read the inquiry reports, you could almost see, you know, the judges,
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because the judge again had a preconceived idea of where the investigation was going.
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1:12:41 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]op. And he mentioned it in his final findings, his final findings,
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what the experts said, that he just ignored it and just went back and said, you know,
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because it's polonium, that must mean it was the Russian authorities that were involved.
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Because polonium, the polonium was the only real evidence that it was the Russians. And it's the
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same with the Scripils. The only real evidence that it's the Russians is the fact that it was
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supposed to be Norbichok. If you take that away, then the whole case that's constructed starts to
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look threadbare. Well, even Porton Downe, guys at the end said, said, no, it's not necessarily
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the Russians. The polonium one told me that the only thing you know for sure is it was probably
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1:13:35 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]or, right? It wasn't just wasn't food poisoning from eating shellfish. Yeah. And that
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was, was that 2017ish? Was it about then? It was a bit earlier than that. It was a bit,
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but I think the inquiry was about that time. So the other thing is there's actually photographic
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evidence that the two Ruskies who supposedly did it, that the photos were frauds. And so the whole
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case fell apart. We're not very good at that stuff anymore. As Peter Thiel once said, and then
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when they failed to shoot Trump, he says, it's really pathetic. We can't even whack anyone anymore.
762
1:14:15 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] and Alexander, what was the point, you know, from Britain's point of view, was that to
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kind of prime the public to be anti-Russian so that when the time came, they could unleash the
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Ukraine war? Which, again, this is where one just doesn't have the whole motivations. I mean, already
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speaking from Britain, already you could see that relations between Britain and Russia were
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1:14:41 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]ly made the British authorities so antagonistic to the Russians at
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that particular time? As I said, it's still not clear to me. There's so much going on, but certainly
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1:14:57 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ay a very important role in poisoning attitudes
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1:15:05 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction] like the Russian case.
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Was the intent in America to influence the UK, one of its allies, you know, to prepare for,
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I don't know, so I'm thinking of the North Stream pipeline explosions. We've got someone in this
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group called Professor Hans Benjamin Braun. Braun. Braun. He's a professor of theoretical
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1:15:33 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]igation of his own into the North Stream pipeline explosions and
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1:15:38 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]s that it was a thermonuclear explosion in the centre of Europe.
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And guess what? Germany didn't notice and neither did Sweden. Sweden had detected,
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1:15:55 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction], well partly because of where they were,
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1:15:58 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]osion, but they didn't tell the world about the thermonuclear explosion in
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the centre of Europe. And I think Hans Benjamin Braun was correct because he distributed all
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1:16:15 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ed Nations and to nations around the world. Nobody came back to him.
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No, of course not. As they wouldn't. Which of course, I mean, not even to say presumably
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that he's wrong. But if that did happen and it's happened in Truss's time in those three weeks,
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so was that the reason she was brought in as Prime Minister for three weeks?
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Let's keep moving. Lots of contemplation but great questions. Dave, are you done?
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Oh, you're muted, David. Yeah, he's okay. Righto. Now, the
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1:16:51 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] from Dagmar, who's not feeling well, and Dagmar Alexander is a lawyer in Germany
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closely involved in the Ryan and Fulmi case. Her question is, before we get to Anders,
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do you see the possibility of the monarchy disappearing in England and Europe?
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She says, I see the monarchy as an important element of the collective Stockholm syndrome
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in Europe. I hope that Diana's sons would set this process in motion when they
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realized that their mother had been liquidated by the firm.
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1:17:26 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]itution is very, very bound up with the whole structure of the
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1:17:37 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]ate. Bear in mind that we don't have a written document which we can call a constitution.
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1:17:43 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] all kinds of legal theories in Britain and conventions and structures, all of which
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ultimately originate with the monarchy. So, simply as an administrative act,
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1:18:00 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] with the monarchy would be a challenge. I mean, it has been done before. It was done in
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the 1640s, but it would be a difficult thing to do. And I think that the inclination of the British
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establishment will be to cling on to it as much as they possibly can and for as long as they
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possibly can. One of the great changes that has happened in Britain in my lifetime is you have
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1:18:24 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] the people drain away. In the 1960s, when I came to Britain,
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1:18:34 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction], the monarch, the monarchy was an actively popular institution.
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I mean, people supported it. It was very much part of their sense of British identity. The Queen was
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1:18:52 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ed when it was her silver jubilee in 1977. It was massively celebrated
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1:19:01 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]e. Today, the monarchy is treated with indifference by most people. And you saw the
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difference in the coronation. So, if you go back and look at the film of the coronation in 1953,
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when the former Queen was crowned, you see that this was a huge national event involving the
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1:19:27 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]e of Britain. When you look at the coronation of her son, King Charles III,
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1:19:33 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ly anybody really particularly cared. I think it's going
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1:19:40 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ain the monarchy for all the enormous institutional problems
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in the event that there is that kind of indifference to it. Eventually, people will say,
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why do we need it? What is it for? So, I think probably it is quietly slipping away.
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And then what about Europe? The stock exchange? Do you think that's a good thing?
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I am not sure, to be honest. I'm going to say this. I think that the monarchy,
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as it used to be, was a part of the constitutional legal and cultural landscape
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of a Britain that I remembered and which I loved. I should say that. I mean, the Britain I came to
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was a country that I loved and felt very connected to. So, though I am not particularly, you know,
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1:20:40 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction] or anything of that kind, seeing the whole structure gradually come apart,
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I find it very unsettling and I do wonder what will come.
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So, Alexander, is that the intention to actually create that unsettling feeling,
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1:20:59 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]e? Was that the intention? And in particular,
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1:21:04 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] that, you know, when the Queen was alive, she was much
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admired, you know, even in the latter years of her reign, people had nice things to say about it,
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if only because she'd been there for so long. You know, most people, in fact, almost all people in
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the UK in the end, had never known anything else, you know, as far as the monarch was concerned.
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And so, it just so happened that her son, Prince Charles III, or King Charles III, as he's known
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now, he was a very, very poor substitute for the Queen. And the Queen is never mentioned now.
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I've never had a monarch die in my lifetime before, so I don't know what, there's nothing to compare
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1:21:52 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] seems very odd that she was much revered when she was alive. But now, nobody ever
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talks about her. Well, this is absolutely true. I mean, when Victoria died, and when King George
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V died, monarchs who had been popular and very revered in the country, the fact that, you know,
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their shadow lingered for a very long time, people remembered them and took them very seriously.
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I guess it's good to make an observation about the Queen. I think one of the great qualities that the
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Queen had was that she never changed. Even as Britain changed around her,
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the Queen herself did not. Charles, can you mute this guy, Deli, or whatever his name is?
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Yeah, keep going, keep going. Yes. And that meant that she remained, she was some sort of connection
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1:22:52 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] And I think people valued that. And that partly explained the enormous
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1:23:01 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]e felt for her. There is nothing like that that's just passed over
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1:23:10 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] that we don't talk about her, and that the British establishment
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1:23:16 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ed in talking about her is perhaps a sign that they don't want us to think
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1:23:21 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] So is this about taking people's identity away from them? Yeah, I think
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it is probably. Come on, let's keep, we've got lots of questions. Stephen, save that question up.
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That's, but you know, you're in the midst of it, Stephen, so I don't know whether we,
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1:23:36 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] that, leave that to the end. But it's an important question as lawyers, the constitutional
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framework for the UK. Yeah. You know, in same Australia, we don't have a, we don't have a
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1:23:45 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]itution. Sorry, Australia has a constitution, but no Bill of Rights as such. Now, Anders,
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I've said, Stephen, I've said to Anders, he's got some great information that he should do a
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presentation due for another update, but he's going to keep this one short. And Anders, please,
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what he's been doing his research on will be useful for us to see, Stephen. So he'll be able to.
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So I saw in the chat that Anders had written that Robert O. Young, who's been a guest for us,
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he's just been sentenced to prison, but you didn't say how many years, Anders, you said for years,
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but wasn't. Yeah, so the details are that he was, it was a jury of 12, and it was three accounts,
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1:24:35 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ed for all three. And let's say by technicality, a felony is from one year
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and above, and this is three felonies.
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So yeah, well, why are you talking so cryptically? Just tell us how long was the sentence?
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Well, the sentencing of how long is not, it's not done.
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Yes, he's been convicted, Stephen, of three felonies. Sentencing is not done.
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No, I'd like to know what he was found guilty of.
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I don't want to go into it, but let's say it's in the chat, the details.
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In the chat, there's an article, Stephen, someone's posted.
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Is it about COVID?
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It is about him claiming he's a medical doctor and that he's treated patients, and
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this is, let's say, yeah, not legal.
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Yeah, but he was outspoken during COVID times.
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Technically, it's not about that, but you know, we don't really know.
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Well, yeah, okay.
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Okay, yeah.
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All right, Anders, your question.
867
1:25:55 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] been working very closely with Robert, so just first of January this year, we finally
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published our, my research, which is written together with him, which is going into
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1:26:10 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]oric, let's say, EMR, electromagnetic radiation as a
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1:26:19 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]or, as well as the historical vaccinations, about 130 years or so.
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So this was done, and I started a new study, which is into fertility,
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which I am now into, and I have done a lot of progress in that, and I've been really
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shocked to see that the fertility decrease is accelerating, becoming worse in 2024,
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while the excess mortality is slowing down.
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So, and I can see the trend line, let's say the excess mortality started in 2020 prior
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to the JABs, and it was not going up a lot in 2021, but let's say with the third shot in 22,
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1:27:17 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]rong correlations to the increased amount of 5G
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radiation, as well as, let's say, the third shot, and it is a huge variation in the cities
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1:27:33 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] high 5G.
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Anders, I don't want you to do your presentation now.
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Okay, so.
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So this is my finding, so this is huge, so to me, I just want to say that it looks like
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it's a much worse situation with the reduction in fertility than those who have been killed by the
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JAB so far.
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Hmm. I hear about this, about the problems with fertility. It is a much under discussed subject,
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1:28:03 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] get the odd article appearing from time to time talking about this,
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1:28:09 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]e are not really talking about this or addressing it or discussing why it's happening,
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and there doesn't seem to be any real explanation that I'm aware of as to why it is happening.
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I can't say more.
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No, the explanation, the explanation, I'm not a medical doctor, I'm a kind of expert in
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computer analysis, but let's say what appears to be strong theories is that we know that this
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lipid nanoparticle with all the nanotech was going into the test and ovaries, that's a fact,
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it's measured. Second, the radiation goes to the same places and you are radiated with, let's say,
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high frequencies with high energy, higher energy in the big cities, so you are likely to have
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big problems with, let's say, the creation of new life because there will be a lot of DNA
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problems because of the radiation, high radiation.
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Mm-hmm. Well, again, I'm not sure that I can add very much to this. All I will say is this,
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this is clearly a big major issue. It is very under-reported to the point that one wonders why
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it is as under-reported as it is. You would have thought that this would be something that people
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would, that, you know, that authorities would be concerned about. They seem to be completely
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unconcerned about it. And that, you know, that in itself begs many questions as to why. But that's
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really all I can say. I mean, it's not, it's something I've heard about. I don't think I'm
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able to comment more about it than that. Okay, thank you, Anders. So Anders is going to do a
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presentation, everybody, because his research is wonderful and gives us useful tools and will be
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useful for the lawyers in cases to come. I'll remind everybody of the film called Witness
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Statement. I'll put the link in again that Gerry Brady has been part of putting together, which is
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designed to be spread all around the world. Some of you have already done so. And it is a two and
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a half hour documentary on evidence for police and investigative authorities for the decades to come
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about the evidence of what happened during the COVID attacks. Now, I wanted to share something
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1:30:39 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]ian again. And I'm going to share my screen. Some of you remember
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what life was like in January 2020. And I've been a fan for some 12 years of John Rappapour.
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And this is what he shared for those is a wonderful, his substack is fantastic. But
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this is on the 10th. So this is this email that I got was on the 22nd of January 2020, everybody,
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is the new deadly China virus, a covert operation, new virus in China, watch out,
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new virus in China, watch out, spreading animals to humans, pandemic coming up, obey medical
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authorities, all hands on deck, centered in Wuhan, the city of 11 million. Will they quarantine and
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shut down Hong Kong? Travellers with the virus getting through to Europe and America? What's the
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name of the virus? 2019 in COVID-2 or in COVID-2? What? Thank God the Chinese are under a tight
919
1:31:46 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]atorship. They can crack down and quarantine anybody on a whim. If your body temperature is
920
1:31:51 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction], they stop you? Wow, we may need that in the USA as long as they don't stop me.
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Impeachment? Forget that. It's the virus. There you are. In the 19 years of this website, the one
922
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story I've researched and covered more than any other is the deadly virus hustle, SARS,
923
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swine flu, Ebola. Now we have a new one. And on it goes. So it was interesting. I've collected all
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my emails from Rappapour. He's a wonderful investigative journalist. I recommend him
925
1:32:20 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ack. But I'll just bring into your attention what was happening
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1:32:25 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ate Robert O. Young was convicted in?
927
1:32:34 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ephen, the full article is in the chat somewhere. San Diego.
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San Diego. California. No, it's California. Yeah, that's California state. That is California.
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Yep. Jesus. No. Yeah, OK. Sebastian, the question was asked a while ago about the black earth or
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topsoil, which is in Ukraine. Why this is so important? I think Alexander can also
931
1:33:10 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]oric point of view. But I'd like to mention that there were
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rumors that in 2014, 2015, Bill Gates was buying up a tremendous amount of farmland globally,
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even in Russia. And he tried to get farmland in Ukraine. I think it was after the arms revolution.
934
1:33:34 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] fertile soil. It is one of the most fertile soils
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in the world. And this happens to be, as Alexander said, it is in the south of Ukraine,
936
1:33:47 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] been incorporated into Russia, as well as Crimea. And on that point,
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Crimea is an extremely important geopolitical and strategic point of the world, which has been
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fought by the British since 1854, the Battle of Crimea, of which a movie was made,
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The Charge of the Light Brigade. And I pass on to Alexander here because this is of significant
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importance that he might like to speak about. What about Crimea, about the Crimean issue? I mean,
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the British, one has to say this clearly. I mean, most British people have only folk memories of the
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Crimean War. And of course, there's a famous poem by Tennyson about the Charge of the Light Brigade.
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And there's been films about this and that kind of thing. But the British establishment, parts of it,
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1:34:42 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction], seem to have never given up on this issue. And the idea about Crimea, if you look at
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Crimea in terms of the Black Sea, it sort of dominates naval movements on the Black Sea. And
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it also means that because of the Black Sea, because of the various big rivers open in the
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Black Sea, the Dnieper, the Dniester, the Danube, this is all part of some great geopolitical play.
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And there's been talk that the British want bases of the Black Sea and specifically in Crimea.
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And it's a fact that in 2014, the Americans, after the change of power in Kiev, after the Maidan coup,
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1:35:30 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]e to Crimea to sort of think about opening a base there. Of course,
951
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the Russians, Crimea is not just a naval base and a place that's important in those respects.
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But of course, it's very much a part of their history as well. So it's understandable perhaps
953
1:35:50 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction] to say, I still find this fixation that some people in London
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have with Crimea very, very strange that people should cling on to ideas and geopolitical ideas
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of the 1850s in the modern world. It is part, in my opinion, of the unhealthy obsession that we have
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in Britain about Russia, which has never fully gone away and reasserts itself every so often,
957
1:36:26 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction] in acute form. Quickly, on the subject of Crimea, just to also add,
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1:36:38 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction], that all these names, these Greek names that you see, Sevastopol, Simferopol,
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Odessa, all of that, they have no actual Greek origin. They were chosen by Catherine the Great
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and Potemkin, her chief minister. So Sevastopol means the city of the empress,
961
1:37:02 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ion is, of course, Catherine the Great. And there was never any
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ancient Greek city by that name, and there was never any ancient Greek city by the name of Odessa
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either. That is a name that was also picked by them, and it clearly refers to Odysseus, the
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Greek hero, the ancient Greek hero. Brilliant. Thank you, Alexander. And Sebastian, Tom the Rodman man.
965
1:37:28 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]en to both Alex's a couple times a week usually, and really appreciate it,
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and I appreciate Alex from CRETE. He apparently has a lot of IT ability, and he does a lot of work
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with all the channels and so forth. But I was talking to a friend last night who's actually
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on this call who's very good on history, and he went over the vilification of Putin starting in the
969
1:38:03 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]alled. I guess initially he was greeted by Bush, and it was a positive thing.
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It was a positive thing. But I think what I'm concerned about is, or what I wanted to get across
971
1:38:23 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] sort of became aware of, I certainly was impacted by Vietnam, but in the 90s I was not
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awake. And then over the 90s I think I woke up, and I think TWA flight 800 was something that
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woke me up, and then certainly 9-[privacy contact redaction] mention a few points. One
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thing Eric sees in Russia, he's brought up that there are drones going upwards of 1200 miles into
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Russia, and that somewhere between [privacy contact redaction] been disabled
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periodically, and then they get rebuilt. And that this story is just not, this is another theme I
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have, what do we, what are we to focus on? We're focusing on Gaza. I was at a demonstration last
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night out in the cold about that issue. It's very important to me. But the number of dead per day
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in the Ukraine far exceeds the deaths in Gaza. So the American people have been just as duped as,
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well, I know this is a contentious issue, but there's a vilification of the Palestinians,
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and I contend that, you know, the Israelis have been fooled. There's some people,
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1:39:53 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]ess is the stratification of wealth within Israel.
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Is it true that there's a class struggle there, and that, you know, so I'm hitting all these points.
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Yeah, if you could, I'll try to wrap it up here. What do you think, is Trump going to, is the body
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count under Trump going to be less than Biden in the long run? And then your comments on the political
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capital that was spent by Trump in this press conference with Netanyahu, and do you have any
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additional analysis on that? Well, I've discussed all of these things. Can I simply say, first of
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all, that you're absolutely correct about one thing. There is a huge amount of vilification and
989
1:40:47 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]ortion and propaganda. That is true of all wars, but the extent to which
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it has been happening in recent years has been astonishing. And it often is directed in conditions
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where there hasn't been a war. I mean, in theory, at least, I mean, we are not at war with Russia,
992
1:41:08 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] all the time as if we are. We talk about Russian leaders and Russian political
993
1:41:15 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ually at war with them. Now, I think people are starting to rebel
994
1:41:22 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ates, definitely, in Germany, to some extent, less so in Britain.
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I think if we're talking about the Middle East, about the conflict in Gaza, about the situation on
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1:41:38 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]inian territories, then I think here, the degree of pushback that there is from people
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about what is going on is much greater. People have learnt to be critical about the official
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views from a very, very much earlier point than they have been about Ukraine. Ukraine is still
999
1:42:04 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ory. It's only been something that people have been watching and listening and
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following about for about 10 years. Russia, it's perhaps longer, it goes back further. But
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the issue of the war in Ukraine, as I said, people are only just now beginning to learn about it.
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The war in Gaza, because it's been ongoing for, what, 80 years now, 70 years now,
1003
1:42:36 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] become critical and an awful lot more people have become
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much better informed about what is going on. Now, very quickly, just to touch on a few quick points,
1005
1:42:48 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]rikes that the Ukrainians do, I myself think that they are mostly performative. Yes,
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they do do some damage. I think that they don't do any significant damage. If you look at the
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overall economic numbers that are coming out of Russia, they are not affected by these drone
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strikes. I think these are little pinprick things that Mr. Zelensky and his people do,
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because they want to show that Ukraine is hitting back Russia in some way. So that's what I wanted
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to say about those. Now, about the issue of these comments of Trump, there are two views here.
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My own view is that Trump has no intention of deporting millions of people from Gaza. I think
1012
1:43:33 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]and that there is a potential political crisis in Israel, because this ceasefire
1013
1:43:41 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]ablished in Gaza and that the Israeli government and Netanyahu himself
1014
1:43:48 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]roying Hamas, which they told the Israeli people that
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they would. I think Trump does not want to see Netanyahu go for all sorts of reasons. He prefers
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the devil. He knows who is Netanyahu. So I think very unwisely and very foolishly he made these
1017
1:44:11 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]inary comments about Gaza, which he's now doubled down on, as he tends to do, in order
1018
1:44:20 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ly to help Netanyahu. And I think that is probably all there was to it from Trump's
1019
1:44:28 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ive. I think that in terms of the effect in Israel, in Gaza, in the wider Middle East,
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and across the world, I think they were very, very bad comments. I think that they've been very badly
1021
1:44:45 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]e, myself being one of them, feel that they normalize deportations,
1022
1:44:56 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]e, and appear to legitimize them. And I think Trump should not
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have said what he did. Those are my views. Okay, one follow-up. Thank you. There's one
1024
1:45:12 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ration in the U.S. that I'm aware of against the Ukraine war, and Jill Stein was there. There was
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the woman from Code Pink, Medea, was there, but they were not allowed to come to the front stage
1026
1:45:28 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ive organizations would not allow them to endorse that event. And it was the
1027
1:45:36 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]e's Party. We also have somebody on this call who knows about the People's Party and the
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1:45:41 --> 1:45:50
corruption, how it's a paper party here. But I attended a local rally on that, and I was punished
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by the party that I was in. I was expelled from that party.
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Again, the body count in that is higher than Gaza, but there's no activity. Is there any
1031
1:46:03 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] against that war in Europe?
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Because we're not seeing much here in the United States. It's just...
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Well, there is very little, and in Britain there is none. I mean, there's been no anti-Ukraine war
1034
1:46:19 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]s in London, for example, that I'm aware of. I mean, just to say, there were a few at the
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beginning, but of course they weren't anti-war protests. They were pro-Ukraine protests, which
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ultimately meant pro-war protests. But those were right at the beginning. All that's melted away,
1037
1:46:36 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]e are mobilized around. And partly it is because
1038
1:46:42 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]e are very, very intimidated. People are still very frightened. If you come out and talk
1039
1:46:48 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] the war, you're immediately classified as a Putin enabler or a Putin spokesman
1040
1:46:55 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction], and people are frightened of that. So we haven't yet reached that point
1041
1:47:04 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] become possible. And can I just say the fact that you were expelled from your
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party, the fact that Jill Stein was unable to speak, all of this is terrible. One should not
1043
1:47:20 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]e are being prevented, in effect, from speaking out at public
1044
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meetings or attending public meetings. Again, once upon a time in Britain and the United States
1045
1:47:39 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]ralia and all sorts of places, it was absolutely possible to do this. We had a
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place in London called Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park where people used to come and they used to
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tip speaker. If you go to Speaker's Corner today, by the way, you will find it empty.
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There is no one there anymore. I've been there many times. It's not far from where I live,
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but it is now deserted. That whole free speech thing has died and it is terrible.
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Now, there is not, however, the active persecution yet of people who speak out
1051
1:48:19 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction] the war in Ukraine, as I do, that there is a people who speak out against what's been
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going on in Gaza. Here there has been. I'm in touch with some people in Britain who have been
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called in by the police, who have been detained for many hours, who have been questioned under
1054
1:48:41 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction], which is an appalling act, by the way, absolutely awful act, the Terrorism Act,
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you know, on the basis that they're giving support to a terrorist organization, in other words,
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to Hamas, which I can say definitely that they are not. And they've been kept in custody for
1057
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periods of up to 96 hours without access to their lawyers and without ability to contact their
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families. Now, I should say that I have been giving advice to one or two of these people,
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not legal advice, but I've been arranging for lawyers to see them. One of them is a man called
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1:49:19 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] been others. I don't want to name who they are because obviously there
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are confidentiality issues, but nothing like that yet about the conflict in Ukraine. And hopefully
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there never will be. Thank you, Tom. Thank you, Alexander. Excellent. Alexander, 96 hours detention
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in the UK without charges is illegal, isn't it? Absolutely. Absolutely. And I know that it's
1064
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happened. Denying a person access to a lawyer in that time is illegal. Preventing them from
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talking to their families is illegal. Isolating them. And yet it is being done. I know that for
1066
1:50:01 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] When did things change? When did Speaker's Corner die? I don't know. It's one of those
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unnerving things that you go there and you suddenly notice that there isn't anyone there.
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And then you go there again and again. And you realize that at some points recently,
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but you can't exactly put your finger as to when it happened. This place, which used to be so
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important, has ceased to function as it once did. I don't know. You won't find anybody to talk about
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it. Nobody will discuss it. None of those things. So many things like that have disappeared from the
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UK. Come on. Come on. We've got hands up, Stephen. Come on. We're running. We're going to run. You're
1073
1:50:55 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] Every time I try to speak, Charles, I didn't get my 15 minutes.
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And you close down every time. I'm trying to save you the last 15 minutes, Stephen.
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Right. Well, that doesn't happen. With lovingly. At quarter past 10, your time, Stephen, it's all
1076
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yours for 15 minutes to grill Alexander. Well, we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. You'll have no problem.
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Yeah, but then I can't think of the question. So I'm just.
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Yeah, that's fair. Yevgeny, here we go. Yeah, thank you very much. First of all, I want to say
1079
1:51:32 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] from time to time, I attend Alexander's blog on YouTube as a psychotherapeutic,
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you know, room. Thank you. So, um, Yevgeny, can I just explain who you are? So, uh, Yevgeny is a British,
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uh, trained, trained in the UK as a doctor. So he's a British trained doctor and psychiatrist.
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He was born in the Soviet Union. He knows the classics. He can talk about books forever.
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And he was so he knows about totalitarianism as well because of where he was born. And, um,
1084
1:52:11 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]ly and courageously, he's kind of accepted that he had to give up his
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career in medicine, as did I, because of what was happening in [privacy contact redaction] said what he needed to
1086
1:52:27 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]ually deregistered myself and the license myself
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in 2021 because I needed to speak out. Um, but Yevgeny didn't do that. He didn't play ball with
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them. He paid the price and they recently took him out. Is that right? No, no, no,
1089
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it's completely wrong. I am winning. The thing is that it's a long, it's a long story. Just in one
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sentence in 2019, I whistle-blowed about mistreatment of the patients in psychiatric
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hospital in Scotland. So I was dismissed. Uh, there was fabricated case against me against
1092
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GMC, which was ongoing like for three years. So the results of these things, so I won employment
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with, you know, I won the case in the GMC, in the GMC without lawyer, by the way. So, and, uh, several
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times the Scottish DNA tries to like, to destroy my further advancement in the program. So eventually
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I won, uh, the, in the dinner that I continue my training. So the, the stuff is going on, by the way,
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I'm working in the hospital just beside the children's hospitals called Sky House,
1097
1:53:43 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]igation about abuse of the young patients in the, in the ward
1098
1:53:51 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction], I want to say that I'm attending your YouTube as a sort of
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psychotherapeutic couch to relax toxic, you know, lying propaganda, which just goes from every corner.
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You see how the propaganda is working. Somebody mentioned Skripals today. So they were poisoned,
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I think, uh, was it like 2018, fourth of March on Sunday. On this day, I arrived in the, at the
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ski resort in Highlands, like for skiing from mountains. So the next day, somebody is asking
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me in the lounge area, Yevgeny, why did you poison Skripals? Do you know? It's crazy. Then another
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thing about, I previously mentioned about the totalitarian thing. We should be very careful with
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1:54:40 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]ives and looks look into the essence of the things. And they say every state is totalitarian.
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It's just the, um, the, the sometimes the totalitarian regime, which controls actually
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every citizen by laws, educations, their culture, and allows them some autonomy. It can camouflage,
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we can say in the in democratic procedures, like elections or freedom of speech, like this
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corner in the, in the, in the, uh, in the Hyde Park. It doesn't matter. You can make a speech in your
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toilet. Nobody will hear you. It's in, if you're influential and if your voice is heard by millions,
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you'll be destroyed. So every state is totalitarian. But now we can see that in the West,
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this totally, we can say also the state just shows it real face. It's an apparatus of coercion.
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1:55:30 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] shows that it was a disaster of population, almost in all countries
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apart, maybe from Belarus, you know, and it shows that people will listen to the government
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1:55:41 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction]en to the advice. They will explain stay at home. And if the government tells
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them Russia is your enemy, go and attack Russian embassy, they will do it in London, like with this
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1:55:50 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] of the population there, we can see it's like the research. So I want just quick
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comment about fertility. There are a lot of factors about fertility, but this is like, I'll tell you
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1:56:03 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]or. Consumption of antidepressants of new generations, so-called SSRIs, serotonin selective
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inhibitors of like, of this stuff, known to cause loss of libido, permanent sexual dysfunction.
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And there is even some rich search, I don't recall either in Canada or in the States, where
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they found out that the loss of fertility of the fish in the river, in the rivers, corresponds
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1:56:33 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]s of antidepressants, which go like through the system of the people
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1:56:41 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]em. So it's one of the factors that definitely there is yetrogenic
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1:56:47 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction] on fertility potentially. And my questions will be, and also I want to say that
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1:56:56 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]e need to learn from Alexander, analytical skills. It's not enough analytical skills.
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1:57:04 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]emic knowledge in certain areas where he can see the patterns and he can draw
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1:57:09 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] make very simple conclusions and they talk about like the
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leaders. The main thing is the groups, who are the groups of powers. My question will be one of them,
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1:57:22 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]ions. One of them about sort of world government. And the second one,
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what does he think is the Soviet, we can say, Soviet socialist regime of economics? Is it
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1:57:36 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]ic regime? So the first one will be about government. In our circle,
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1:57:43 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]e, the group for the patients in the UK, some people believe that, oh, there is a world
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government which controls like everything. So it coordinates these campaigns. And they're saying,
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it's impossible. There are a lot of groups of power even within one country. But there are certain
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1:57:59 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]itutions of coordination of the actions where from different
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countries, different groups, they gather somewhere through open structures, through closed structures,
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1:58:10 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]ion. What do you think, Alexander? Do we have world
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government or not? Well, I don't think we have exactly a world government in the sense of a
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1:58:22 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]e who sit together and have a meeting and say, you know, this is what we
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got to do in, you know, Peru or whatever it is. I mean, I don't think that is that is exactly what
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1:58:33 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]y of people from, you know, decision makers, policy makers,
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power makers, people of that kind, relatively small, which comes together, forms a kind of
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consensus and which tries to shape events. And I think this is what happens. And I think it is very
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1:59:05 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction] And I think anybody who thinks that it doesn't just simply
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So, of course, they do have their various institutions, places where they meet. You know,
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we've heard about the WEF and all of that. And, you know, I'm not saying that that isn't important,
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but it isn't just in these places that these people meet. They meet all the time. They meet in every
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1:59:32 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction] that you can find. And they come together. In order to be a part of this community,
1150
1:59:43 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction] certain views that are shared by the community as a whole. Obviously, you have
1151
1:59:52 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction] access to power and you apply it. So I think that it's not exactly a world
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government, but it is a world ruling class, if I can put it like that. Now, you asked another
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2:00:06 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ion, which is about Soviet Union economics. But could you say that again, actually, because it
1154
2:00:14 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ing. Yeah, I just want to clarify the second question. So to simplify things,
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2:00:22 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction] and to parallel to this system, social political system in the
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2:00:30 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction], capitalistic system was running, we can say the project, the Soviet project of the Soviet Union,
1157
2:00:37 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ate, although some people say, use the term like communist, but let's say that's like
1158
2:00:43 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ern Europe was a block like countries. And there were a lot of
1159
2:00:50 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ill sort of market, they were still money, they still sort of
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2:00:55 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]oitation. And it was industrial mode of production, with only difference that,
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as I see it from what I like witnessed, we have the system where in the Soviets, there is no
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2:01:08 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]ion in and you don't have land, you don't have factories to produce
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significant wealth in the society. And the system is not working for profit, it just
1164
2:01:20 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction], it's we can say, mixed system, but most of the stuff is
1165
2:01:26 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction] The huge major corporations, they're looking for profit, they want you to buy
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the car like every year or to change your mobile like every, every model. So and the thing is that
1167
2:01:39 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]em try to reinvent itself, it goes into crises and goes
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in new. So we sort of new crisis where they're trying sort of to maybe to moderate consumption
1169
2:01:54 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]ories about global warming, that we should like leave minimalistic style of life.
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And capitalism will try to survive. In this case, we see the new waves of near colonial,
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we can say wars. What I see in Ukraine, it's actually near colonial war. So what do you think
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what we look in the future as a model of like social political regime? Is it some sort of new
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vegetarian type of capitalism or it should be some sort of more humanitarian faced Soviet regime?
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So what's this is a very, very, very good question. And again, it's if it was easy to answer this
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2:02:32 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]ion like this, it would be I there's all sorts of people who are trying to look for
1176
2:02:40 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction] a social economic system that will be juster and better structured
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2:02:49 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction] today. I think the thing to say about this is that I am not able to set out
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2:02:58 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]em. I do believe that the socialist system that existed in the
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Soviet Union was different in fundamental ways from the one that functioned in the West. And
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it's important to say also, because this is something that some people have difficulty
1181
2:03:18 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]em did actually function, it worked. I mean, it may not have
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provided an abundance of consumer goods and that kind of thing. But if you're talking it is purely
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in economic terms, it actually was a functional system. Now, what we are going to head to
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in the future, I don't know, I am somebody who strongly wants to believe in democracy,
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in human freedom, in human choice, those kinds of things. I would like to believe that the system
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that will eventually evolve will satisfy those things which I do believe I do want to believe
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are intrinsic to humankind and what I want to say. I want to wrap this straight away.
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2:04:17 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]e who are in power keeps the power. We know
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there were democracies since ancient Athens, where they were choosing their generals. And in
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Rome, there was a system of elections as well. They were bribing with food. So the thing is that
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2:04:37 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]ill in power, they will hold this power. If you win the elections,
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2:04:48 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction] and try to do some reforms, they will remove you from power.
1193
2:04:54 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]e of Chile, so he started moderate reforms, he won elections and the result,
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he is butchered and a significant chunk of the population is butchered as well. So in this case,
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yeah, there were democracies. That's for again to sustain this camouflage of the apparatus of
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coercion. Right. Well, what I was going to say was that is what I would like to see happen.
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I am not sure that it will happen. I mean, there is a very strong trend towards a more technocratic,
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2:05:31 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]em. And I you know, it's entirely possible that we will see that we were
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2:05:38 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction] that there is a world ruling class, it could be that it could be organized
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around them, or it could be something different with different structures that you know, I can't
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imagine. But I am I don't know how it will be. I would like it to be a more democratic system.
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I am not saying necessarily that it will be. Now I'm going to suggest that I don't know whether
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you're familiar with this, but there was a writer, an American writer in the early 20th century called
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2:06:09 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction], he eventually became a fascist and ended up in Italy in the 1920s.
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But he was a very profound and incisive writer and a political thinker. And he said that behind
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2:06:27 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction]em, there is an oligarchy. And he coined the expression the iron law of oligarchy,
1207
2:06:38 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction]em ultimately devolves into that. Now I would like to believe that Michels is wrong.
1208
2:06:47 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction]s, I ask myself, whether perhaps he might have been right.
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We're going to move on. Jordan Peterson would agree with that, Evgeny. And Alexander, what you
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2:06:58 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction] said, all right, that that there are certain people that always gravitate, make everybody equal
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tomorrow. And within three years, the people who were at the top before will be at the top again.
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So we've got two more questions and then Stephen for the last 15 minutes. So thank you, Evgeny.
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Good to see you, Mark, then Sebastian and then Stephen. Thanks for that. Alexander, you live in
1214
2:07:20 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction], have you heard of a weapon system called neural strike? No, tell me about it.
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Well, I haven't heard about it. It was a CCP. There was a whistleblower in the PLA who brought
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this to the attention of the world. I was looking for the electronic assault weapon and I found it
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situated in what the Transport for London call a camera. You've actually got an
1218
2:07:48 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]ronic assault weapons program being deployed right across London, part of the low emission zone
1219
2:07:54 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]oyment. Right. So if you're in London, just have a look on top of the traffic lights,
1220
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you'll get a bit of a surprise. There's a lot of very heavy duty hardware on there. A lot of it's
1221
2:08:06 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]ened, which tells me this is very disturbing. OK. Can you just say, just set the name again?
1222
2:08:15 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]rike, neural strike. What happened? I've invested, you know, the Blade Runners have been
1223
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chopping quite a few of these things down. I was concerned that it didn't look anything like an
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NPR camera, supposedly for license plate recognition. It looks very, very militaristic, obviously on
1225
2:08:35 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]ion. I found that's exactly what it was. It's got a piece of hardware in it,
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which was built by Thales. However, this was partnered with the Huawei
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technology company. Basically, most telecommunications are militarized anyway,
1228
2:08:55 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]ware. It's a laser guidance weapon system,
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abandoned international law for blinding people. And that's what they've deployed right across
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London. So unbelievable. Why has this not been talked about more? I mean, I mean, I'm asking a
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2:09:12 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]ion, but I would nonetheless ask you to because I haven't heard of it. So tell me
1232
2:09:17 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]n't heard about it. I mean, is it who is doing this? Who is installing these things?
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I mean, I'm sorry, I'm asking the question. I'm asking questions that.
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The company is called Siemens. But if you look inside, you'll see it's these international defense,
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2:09:32 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]ors, Thales. It has a operating platform called Azure. Azure was a
1236
2:09:39 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]atform built with Microsoft Lockheed Martin, Thales. And it's what drives the
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whole thing. But it's been driven with a with a piece of hardware. It's a product called Jamalto.
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It's built in China. It's a high speed modem. So it basically controls the whole
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2:10:01 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]em. So if you're in and around central London, just have a look on
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top of your traffic lights, get a bit of a shock. Yeah, the biometric sensors. Yeah, the biometric
1241
2:10:12 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]e who unfortunately took the, you know, the COVID-[privacy contact redaction]ion.
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Well, Mark, can I just say, I mean, it is absolutely terrible that this thing has been installed in the
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way that you say, and that it's not been talked about. As far as I'm aware, there's been no public
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debate about it. No information. The media doesn't write about it. There's been no discussion
1245
2:10:33 --> 2:10:38
in parliament. I mean, it's absolutely terrible. You know, once upon a time, and again, I'm sorry
1246
2:10:38 --> 2:10:46
if I'm being a little bit, you know, nostalgic and historicist here. Way back in the 19th century,
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there was a debate about imposing licensing on pubs. It's a fact, you know, restrictions on when
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2:10:53 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]ink. And there was opposition to this in parliament. And a parliamentarian,
1249
2:11:02 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]ually a bishop, actually said, I would rather see England free than England sober.
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So that was the English tradition. I mean, there was always this, obviously, people, you know,
1251
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did do regulations, but there was always this pushback against things. Now, there's nothing.
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It's able to install these things right across London, apparently, and there's no public debate.
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The newspapers don't write about it. The Guardian, which used to write about things like this from a
1254
2:11:35 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction] point of view, because that's what they did. And the Daily Telegraph, which used to
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write about these things from a right-wing libertarian point of view, because that's what
1256
2:11:44 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]n't said anything about this. Nobody, you're the first person who's told me
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about this. I will certainly look out for these things. Do you actually have a question to me?
1258
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Because I've been asking all the questions. Well, it's a question to be fair was to ask if
1259
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you knew anything about it. No, I don't. I don't. And I'm absolutely appalled that I don't, actually.
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But I will certainly find out about it. And I will contact, I will speak to a few people I know who
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would know more about this than, well, obviously, I would certainly know more about me about it than
1262
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I do. Because I've been doing nothing about it. Well, TfL, I don't mean it's just a camera, but I've
1263
2:12:22 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]igated, I have looked inside it, and I do have some of the bits from it. So I can
1264
2:12:28 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]ually is. I should say that to people who don't know, I think London
1265
2:12:36 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction] than pretty much any city in the world. I mean, they've
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proliferated to an unbelievable degree. And it's all supposed to be to control traffic.
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But that's what it's masquerading for. It's called fusion technology. And you can actually
1268
2:12:53 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]ually interrogate the bio metrics of the person.
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Right. Right. Well, thank you, Mike. Alexander, they're controlling human beings.
1270
2:13:04 --> 2:13:07
Well, there you go. Yeah. A lot of plant.
1271
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The Emperor has no clothes. No.
1272
2:13:10 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] like the eye in America. Yeah.
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Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for Alexander. Thank you. Thank you, Mark.
1274
2:13:23 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]even, thanks. I just wanted to mention, I don't know if anyone has
1275
2:13:30 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] about this, but Richard Medhurst was recently arrested in Austria.
1276
2:13:34 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] about him. He's in touch with me, by the way.
1277
2:13:39 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]ed him and asked him if he would join us also.
1278
2:13:44 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]ria? He's a journalist. He's a British journalist.
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Based in Vienna. What's his name?
1280
2:13:53 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] Oh, I know him. Yes, of course. Yeah.
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So I didn't know if you were all aware of that. And Alexander, I actually have asked Mark to join
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us also on the Durant to speak about this topic because I do think it's very, very important.
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That's all I really had to say. So thanks.
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You were super short, Sebastian. Well done. All right, Steven, your time,
1285
2:14:17 --> 2:14:22
as I say in the classics, your time has come. Put your video on so we can see your smiley face.
1286
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But now I can't remember the questions, but I'll have a go. I can think of more.
1287
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So I think one thing that's very surprising to me, Alexander, I think you're very curious as well.
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It doesn't take much to arouse your curiosity. I'm pretty curious. I am even at the expense of my
1289
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own propaganda, if you like, or my own ideas. I want to explore things to find out what the truth
1290
2:14:46 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction] recently who said that the most important things in his opinion were
1291
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searching for the truth and courage. So you could put it the way Charles did with 12 different,
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you know, battlefronts. But I think the easier way to describe it to people is,
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you know, we need to seek the truth and we need to be courageous at this time. And,
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and if you if you're not courageous, then you're letting down your own family and your children.
1295
2:15:20 --> 2:15:[privacy contact redaction]en, if you've got grandchildren. So I think people need to understand
1296
2:15:26 --> 2:15:[privacy contact redaction] a responsibility to the society in which they live, and not to just constantly
1297
2:15:33 --> 2:15:[privacy contact redaction]antly thinking about themselves, and maybe their family, if they're lucky.
1298
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It seems that many parents are quite happy to delegate the education system to the children.
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Happy to delegate the education so called of their children to the state, and not contribute,
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not help the teachers not show any interest. Oh, sorry, I've switched it off instead of
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2:16:02 --> 2:16:[privacy contact redaction] wonder, so I do think I made a few points,
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I don't know if you remember them, but it doesn't matter.
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No, no, I can't. I can't remember. Carry on. I should say I can I can see a picture,
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but I can't see you. That's all we can see your interrogation lights, David, but not your face.
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So, yeah, there we are. So I, and so I do think that if we get everything else right,
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and we don't address how our children are educated or miseducated, then we will lose the war.
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2:16:43 --> 2:16:[privacy contact redaction]en right. Now, you could argue, as I said earlier,
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you know, that there's a kind of human beings that find their way eventually, but, you know,
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maybe so the Soviet Union, for example, arguably found its way in 1989, but many would disagree.
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And it took them from [privacy contact redaction] that. So, you know, yes, you know, maybe things
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will balance out in the long run, and human beings will find a way. But most human beings want to
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kind of enjoy their lives. And so it'd be very good to avoid things before they actually happen,
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which are very difficult once they've happened to correct. So I just wonder whether you can
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speak generally on some of the things I've just mentioned. I think I think what you have discussed
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2:17:39 --> 2:17:[privacy contact redaction] that, you know, going back to our first discussion about the fact that we are social
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beings, that we are part of the community of Politea, we need to be active and to play an
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active role in that, and to work constantly on this, and obviously to have that responsibility
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2:18:03 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]en. And I think this is absolutely true. Now, I have just become a parent over the
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2:18:08 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction] three years, my children, my two oldest children are now starting what's called preschool
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in England. And one of the things I've discovered, and which we all parents are discovering,
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is that we are not left alone as parents. We are constantly under pressure now from the school
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will confirm this, by the way, I mean, they might not see it in exactly my perspective. But
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2:18:46 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]en, it's very much the school now,
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which is of course, an institution of, you know, the wider state, which is pushing constantly upon
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you to do various things to make sure that they, you know, take particular lessons, that they are
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and you know, all this business of, you know, comfort zones and all of that.
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I had never imagined the extent to which it happens. And bear in mind, I'm talking about
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two little girls who are three. Yeah. So, I'm just changing the subject a little bit, but not much.
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2:19:39 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction]udy for totalitarianism?
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I don't know enough about Sweden to be able to say, perhaps. I've never been there, by the way.
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I've never been to Sweden. My parents used to love Sweden. They used to go there in the 60s
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in its social democratic heyday. Targa Erlander was the Prime Minister at that time, and they loved
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it. And for them, this was the ideal. But then they were very much old guard leftists. It would
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appeal to them. I don't know what Sweden is really like, but maybe it is. So, in 1969, a book was
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written by a British guy, I think, called Roland Hunford. It was called The New Totalitarians.
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When I went to Sweden in the 80s, my wife is Swedish, I became aware of this book, and I
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was fascinated by it. And there was another book called, the book's title was called, it was called
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A Clean, Well-Lighted Place. And after five years of living in Sweden, that resonated with me. I knew
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what it meant. But I couldn't articulate what it meant, if you understand me. But I recognised the
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title, and I've remembered it to this day. Very interesting, isn't it, how human beings operate.
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So, a clean, well-lighted place. The thing about Sweden, which is very unusual, is that the
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population of Sweden believes its government. That's why it didn't need a lockdown.
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And I think that there are suspicions in my mind that Sweden was a pilot study in totalitarianism.
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I mean, that is very interesting. And again, as I said, I've never been there, so I don't
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know very much about it. But a population that believes its government is a deluded population,
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2:21:31 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction]etely lost. I couldn't put my finger on it when I was there.
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I really couldn't. But I felt as though I was on a mission there. I couldn't understand the place.
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2:21:44 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction]and it. Because without understanding the country in which you live,
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or the society in which you live, you're very vulnerable. So I need, I think, this is why
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foreigners grow and they go to a different country. So I think the best education is
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actually moving to a different country and surviving in that country, especially when
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it's totally new to you. It's a really steep learning curve. And essentially, you know,
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you might go back to your own country because you failed in that new country, because you don't
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2:22:12 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction]and it. And so, I think, so, I think, I just try to think of what's the most important
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thing to talk about. In my mind, I think the most important thing to talk about
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is what's happened in the last, since 2020 in particular. It seems to me that governments
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all around the world thought it was okay to psychologically damage, to psychologically attack
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their own populations. They forgot that they were the servants of the people.
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2:22:43 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction]en need to learn at school the relationship between the individual
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2:22:49 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction]ate. You know, what is the aim? We are not servants of the state. In Sweden,
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there's something called knäckebröd, which is a special hard bread. It has big holes on one side.
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2:23:06 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]ifying maybe, you know, there may be other differences. But to me, as a bloke,
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it's had big holes on one side and small holes on the other side. And I was told by one of my
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friends, my Swedish friends, who came from the Swedish-Finnish border and was very influenced by
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Finland. And of course, Finland had been in the Winter War with Russia. So, they knew about
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2:23:32 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]en learned at school, sorry, at Dargis, it was called. It
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You know, in the feminism wave, should we say. And so, they learned at Dargis how to butter
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the knäckebröd. So, when I was saying to my wife and to my Swedish friends, you know,
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this knäckebröd, what do I do with this? Oh, all the Swedes knew. And they all had the same story
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because they'd learned about it in Dargis, not from their parents, but from Dargis. So,
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the parents left everything to Dargis when I was there in the 80s. So, I'm mentioning all this.
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I wonder whether you can see a pattern which we need to get into the curriculum of every...
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Well, I think that I am seeing this already in the school that my children are attending,
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2:24:44 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction] in a certain way. I don't mean that, you know,
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I'm not talking about them not being disruptive or, you know, anything of that kind. But
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their speech is now being monitored in the school which they go to. And ultimately, of course,
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through the speech, their thought in a way that would have been completely inconceivable
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when I was at school. I do think there's going to be a pushback against this as well, by the way,
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in England. I think that we are a different society.
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You do or you don't, Alexander?
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I think we do. I think we will. I think we are a different society in Sweden. I think that there
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is a more, well, if you like, a more anarchic spirit still.
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Well, you say that, Alexander, but I'm...
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You know what I was going to say. Yeah.
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No, you say that, but I'm despairing because I see the similarities increasing rather than decreasing.
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Well, as I mentioned at the start of the program, that with every single year that has passed,
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When I say that I think that there will be a backlash against it and all that, you know,
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I'm not going to pretend or I don't pretend to myself. That is what I want to see. And of course,
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what I want to see is what I hope I will see. But, you know, I might be disappointed.
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But, Alexander, so, you know, you mentioned your children. You've got children and you need to
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educate them. So how are you going to educate them in a state education system? Because I think you're
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2:26:29 --> 2:26:[privacy contact redaction] a big shock. Well, probably. I mean, I should say that, I mean, I play a very active role
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My wife is the same. So I think that we do have that influence over our children.
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And obviously, that is something which I think we will fight to preserve and retain. But I can
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already foresee that we're going to have problems going forward. I don't want to discuss this in too
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much detail because I can't speak for her. But my wife has already had many issues at university,
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2:27:10 --> 2:27:[privacy contact redaction]e. I mean, she's found it very difficult to express certain opinions, not just about Russia,
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2:27:18 --> 2:27:[privacy contact redaction] general opinions about things without encountering not just criticism, but pressure.
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Well, almost, absolutely. For some members of the academic and managerial body.
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So, I understand you. So not the students so far. Interestingly. Yeah, I don't want to pry,
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Alexander. Is she British or is she foreign? She's absolutely British. I mean, her mother was German,
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but she was brought up in Britain. She is absolutely British in every other respect.
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Yes, her mother was German. That's the German connection I have, if you like, but she's very British.
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And the same with the Afghani. It really is a magnificent education, I think. Just actually
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having knowledge of two countries is enough. But anyway, I just want to ask you, Alexander,
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2:28:24 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction] four years and what we're seeing now in America, what are the big lessons in your
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view? You know, you might, you know, in a perfect world, you might like more time to think about.
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But off the top of your head, what can you see now, the two or three most important things that we
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2:28:42 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction]and about what has happened since 2020? And I think it was treason, by the way,
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worldwide treason. Yeah, I think the first and most important thing to take away is the government's
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lie. All governments lie. I mean, either way, I've said this many times, I said this on my
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programs, all governments lie. And one should not assume that what you're being told by any government
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2:29:06 --> 2:29:[privacy contact redaction] thing. That is the first thing that anybody who wants to be an active and
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within government, society, the state to try to control and to try to extend control.
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I can absolutely say that. And the other things, the other side, the positive sides, is to remember
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the importance of human autonomy, human dignity, human independence, the right of free speech,
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those sort of things, because that is what enables us to hold back and to resist these pressures that
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2:30:03 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction]s going to be there. Absolutely. Thank you so much, Alexander, for coming to speak to us.
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Thank you very much. Thank you. Beautifully said. Thank you, Alexander. Thank you, Sebastian,
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2:30:14 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction]ephen, well done for organizing. Thank you, everybody, for your contributions.
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Don't forget to save the chat. And we'll be back again. And on we go in our fight for truth,
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2:30:24 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction]ice, freedom, ethics and health. And Alexander, as John Cleese would say,
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I think it was John Cleese, you're a very naughty boy, because you've sat here for two and a half
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2:30:38 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction] not even had to go to the toilet once, which clearly means you're not drinking
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enough water. So get more water into you. All right, everybody. Thank you very much. Thank you,
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everyone. Thank you, Alexander. And Alexander, I think one thing that I would say to people is
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2:30:52 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction] Yeah, absolutely. When you need to stand up and defend
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yourself and your family. Absolutely. So few people are prepared to do that these days.
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What do you say, Jocheny? Just a quick question. The books on the top shelf beside the medallion
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of Alexander, Alexanderos Megalos. Yeah, is it Alexander the Great? Alexander the Great. That
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was a present, by the way. So on the top shelf, all these books, like the similar, on the top shelf,
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the small books, what is this? The small books, they're some of the Greek classics.
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Ah, I was trying to guess all the time and just. They're from the American Loeb edition of the
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Greek. Loeb library. Loeb library. Yes, thank you. And further to what Charles just said, Alexander,
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I would say that you're a naughty boy because you don't put forward the views that the state
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2:31:45 --> 2:31:[privacy contact redaction] Oh, yeah. Yes. Very naughty boy. So, Sebastian, so you, Stephen,
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so all of us here. All right, everybody, stay naughty, stay awkward. Bye, everybody. Thank you.
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Thank you very much. Very good. Thank you so much. Thank you.
