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All right, let's get this show on the road. Everybody welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID
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Ethics International. This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost during the darkest days
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of the COVID scam responses with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom
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and health. And today we honor Rashid Butar's passing and we think about him and we might
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have a conversation about him in due course. Stephen Frost has stood up against government
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and power over the years and has been a whistleblower and activist. His medical specialty is radiology.
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I'm Charles Covets, the moderator of this group. I'm Australasia's passion provocateur
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and my jacket is red because red is the color of passion. I practiced law for 20 years before
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changing career [privacy contact redaction] 12 years, I've helped parents and lawyers
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0:00:53 --> 0:00:[privacy contact redaction]rategize remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice. I'm also
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our war for freedom. We comprise lots of professions, including doctors, lawyers, homeopaths, journalists,
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in the chat and where you're from. If you publish a newsletter or a podcast or you have
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a radio or TV show or you've written a book, put the links into the chat so we can follow
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you, promote you and find you. And even if you've done it in our previous meetings, keep
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doing it because it makes it easy for us to find you. And remember that we have a variable
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population live so that the links in the chat to your podcast or newsletter are important
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are various battle lines as part of this war. Some of us believe we're in a continuation
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is never settled. The meeting runs for two and a half hours after which for those with
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the time, Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting. Tom puts the links into the chat
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moderating. Free speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human freedoms.
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If you're offended by anything, be offended. We're genuinely not interested. We reject
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squashes you. Love, on the other hand, expands you. If you have a solution or a product or
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chat or DM me privately. The meeting is recorded and is uploaded onto the Rumble channel. Now
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before I welcome Bobbi Anne Cox, the one thing I want to add is this is a free speech environment.
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someone's allowed to believe that. And the fact that someone says that a particular profession
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who might be on this call is bullshit, just let it go. That's what free speech is about.
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That's not an attack on a person that says this profession is bullshit. We've had the comment
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made that virology is a non-existent science. That is not a personal attack. Anyone who attacks
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express a point of view, that's what it means to have free speech. Okay, so it's not a per- if it's
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a personal attack, we won't, Stephen and I won't stand for it, but you're allowed to express views.
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That's what it's about. So please understand that important distinction. And if someone says
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that a particular profession is bullshit, it's not my job to stand to speak and defend a particular
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profession. So come on, we come from love, not fear. Don't worry about what anybody says about
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a particular profession. So, and that particularly applies to lawyers, Bobbie Anne, doesn't it?
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Well, I've got millions of jokes. I mean, I mean, what do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50?
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Your honor. You know, and why do they bury lawyers 12 feet under? Because deep down, lawyers are okay.
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So, you know, we've got more jokes about lawyers than any other profession. So hello.
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Okay, and now welcome to Bobbie Anne Flower-Cox officially, but Bobbie Anne Cox for our purposes,
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wonderful New York lawyer who's spoken to us before. And we thank you again,
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Bobbie Anne, for giving us your time. And thank you, Stephen Frost, again, for creating this group
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and for organizing Bobbie Anne. Bobbie Anne, over to you and you can share your screen if you wish
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at any time. Great. Thank you so much. Thank you, Charles. Thank you, Stephen. It's great to be here
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again. So I'm not sure if everybody on today's call was on the call when I spoke last year.
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Certainly not. No. Okay. So basically, what I've been working on for the past year and almost a
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year and a half is this lawsuit that I brought against the governor of New York State, Kathy
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Hogle and her Department of Health. In New York State, we have a quarantine law, which we've had
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for 70 years. And it is basically, you know, pretty, pretty well full of due process protections,
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you know, in order to quarantine someone against their will, the law says that you need to,
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you know, prove that they're sick with whatever the communicable disease is that you think they
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have. And then there's, you know, an investigation that's had, they have the right to an attorney,
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manner that is dangerous to others, so they're not being careful to try to not spread their germs,
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they would, you know, get proper treatment or whatever. But our governor decided that
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she was going to make a regulation through her Department of Health. And forget all that law
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to. And then they didn't have to prove you were sick, they didn't have to prove you were exposed
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to a communicable disease. There was no time restraints, so they could have locked you up or
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locked you down for days or weeks or months. They got to decide where you were locked up. So they
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into a facility or a detention center of their choosing. They could have used local law enforcement
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to remove you from your home and put you where they wanted you to go. And once you were there,
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we were having oral arguments in front of the judge, and the judge asked the attorney general,
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you know, let's say you take a family and let's say you put them into isolation or quarantine in
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a facility. Let's say you put them in a hospital, let's say. How do they get out once they're in
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there? And the attorney general kind of thought about it for a minute and said, well, you know,
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I guess they could hire a lawyer and they could sue us. So there was no due process protections
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in this regulation that the governor and her Department of Health made, but they made it in
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the name of COVID, you know, COVID emergency. And so last year, I actually found out about this reg,
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state, our state constitution both say that you have to have due process protections in not just
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your laws, but in your regulations as well. And it also conflicted with existing New York state law,
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as I had mentioned previously, we already have a law which is full of due process protections
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so that the government doesn't abuse its power against its citizens. And this regulation
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departments sit. They're the executive branch. They're only supposed to enforce laws as per our
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They're the ones that are supposed to make the laws. And we elect them every two years here in
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So, this group of New York state legislators, lawmakers, are having their power taken from them
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by the governor and her Department of Health. It's unconstitutional and that was our argument and
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separation of powers. They declared it null, void, unenforceable. They prohibited the promulgation
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of the regulation or enforcement of the regulation going forward. So, that was in July. And then we
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were running for office. And of course, they didn't want the public to know what they were up to as
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far as quarantines, forced quarantines and quarantine facilities. So, they didn't actually
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same governor and the same attorney general as we did last year. And so, they waited until early
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this year to file the appeal. So, now we're in appeal. We're now at the appellate division,
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right decision and that this is indeed an unconstitutional regulation and should not be
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and that is obviously a very severe deprivation of your rights, right? If the government can come
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and lock you up or lock you down whenever they want with no proof that you're sick,
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no proof that you did anything wrong for however long they want, that is totalitarianism, right?
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That is, you can call it authoritarianism, you can call it, you know, scary as hell, whatever you want
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to call it, it's not happening in this state, it's not happening in this country, not on my watch.
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So, that is one element of this fight that I've got going on. But the other element is that
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department of health, they can make this reg, this is okay, no problem, they've got the power to do
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this, that's going to now completely abolish separation of powers because what it's going
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to do is it's going to elevate that branch of government, it's going to say the executive
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branch where the governor sits and her agencies is now going to be more powerful than the
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legislature, which is our elected representatives to every two years we can elect them, you know,
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vote them in and out if we don't like what they're doing in the legislature, it's going to elevate
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the executive branch above the legislative because the legislature could make whatever laws they want
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and then the executive could come along and say, well, you know what, I don't really like that law,
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so I'm going to make a regulation or a rule, whatever you want to call it, that conflicts with
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that law and overrides that law and look, there's nothing you can do about it because
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and you will see agencies around New York State start making regs, rules, whatever you want to
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call them, that conflict with the constitution and conflict with existing New York State law
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and we're going to have complete totalitarian rule in this state. Why does that matter to the other
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states? Why does that matter to the rest of the world? Because what happens in New York spreads
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something, they do it too. Well, New York can do it. Well, the courts in New York said that the
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governor can do that, so, I mean, our governor can do it too, right? And then it starts to spread and
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then it becomes a trend and then when other countries see, oh yeah, the U.S. can have forced
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isolation and quarantine facilities with no due process, why can't we do that, right? So, it becomes
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but now they're appealing. So, the case is, unfortunately, not being covered by mainstream
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We had a decision in July of 22 and then the remaining months of the year were spent trying
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what Governor Hockel and Letitia James, our attorney general, were up to.
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So, mainstream media wouldn't pick it up. I mean, there was maybe one article in the New York Post
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about this, but no New York Times, no Wall Street Journal, none of the television networks would
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pick it up. Now, alternative media did. They were great. I can't count how many podcasts I was
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and I write once a week an article and push it out through substack, but there's no coverage from
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and the attorney general appealed, Fox News wrote one story on it and I think I'm going on OAN in
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like a week or two or something, but this needs to hit mainstream media. I mean, this is what they do.
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They keep these important cases and issues out of the public eye because, honestly, in my opinion,
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and I've spoken to many people about this case, I mean, I literally travel across the state. I
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Georgia, Florida, whatever, but it's really fascinating that so many people have not even
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and attorney general are appealing to try and get this crazy power back. And it's so dangerous
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because whether you're Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, independent, nothing,
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I don't care what you are, it doesn't really matter. We are not talking about something that's
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conservative or liberal or progressive. We're talking about basic human rights.
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anything wrong for however long you want. It blows my mind. As an attorney, it blows my mind.
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As a citizen of our world, it blows my mind because no government should have this power.
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So this is where we are with this. I'm working very closely with New York State legislators,
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the ones of course that are on my lawsuit. There was also another group of New York State
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the case. And that was authored by Assemblyman Andy Goodell, who's also an attorney and signed
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onto by Assemblyman Will Barkley, who's the Republican head of the New York State Assembly,
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and then another assemblyman named Joe Giglio. And now this time around, the New Civil Liberties
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Alliance said that they are going to be writing an amicus brief to support our case. And then
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York, they might write an amicus brief as well. So I'm hoping my goal now is to try and get PR on
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this because we can't let stuff like this fly under the radar anymore. We need to wake more
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and walk out of your house and go to work or take your kids to school or do whatever you want to do.
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This would because this reg says that you can't you don't the government doesn't even need to
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prove that you're sick and they can hold you wherever they want for however long they want.
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I mean, that is the antithesis of freedom. And it is so dangerous. We can't allow them to have this
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power. If the populace doesn't like something, generally speaking, it fails in government,
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if there's a proposed law, that's really controversial. And enough people hear about
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it and speak up about it or write letters or send emails, or do rallies or whatever their way of
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support because the politicians their number one thing that they want to do is get reelected.
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So if they think that there's something a topic that is so controversial that it could cost them
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their job, they absolutely will back off. The problem is reaching enough people to get them
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to speak out to write letters, send emails, make phone calls, make appointments and go actually
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in December, this past December, it was like two or three days before Christmas. And the New York
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state legislature called a session. So in New York, our legislature, the senators and assembly
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members only work from January to June. It's a part time job. It's six months. It's not even
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six months. It's five and a half months. And so they finished the beginning of June. They called
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them back to Albany, back into session the very end of December, this past December, five months
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ago, because, oh, it's such an emergency. We have to come back into session two days before Christmas.
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a 30% pay raise so that they could now make $142,[privacy contact redaction]us per diems.
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if that outside job earns them more than $35,000 a year. So they've basically barred the members of
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the other six months out of the year when you're not actually in Albany being a legislator.
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You can only rely on that as your source of income and that is your profession. So now what happens
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beholden to? You're not going to listen to what the people want. You're going to listen to what
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office. What they want, that's what you're going to do. What your party tells you to do, that's
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what you're going to do because if you don't, well your party will put somebody up against you in
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to your campaign when it comes to I'm for reelection. So you've now made it that every
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So what does that mean? That means that you are getting literally one side rule, one party rule.
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There's no discourse going on in New York state. There's no discussion. There's no other side of
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need the governors. Even if the governor had lost and let's say the Republican won last year,
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it wouldn't matter because with a super majority in both houses that means if they want to pass a
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bill into law and the governor says no and vetoes it, they would have the power to override the
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veto. So it is so dangerous and we've had one party rule, Democrats in charge, nothing,
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five years in New York and this is what we're seeing. We are seeing regulations like this
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running amok. We are seeing things like there was a bill that just passed last week out of the
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assembly health committee. Now it's going to the assembly floor which says that children of any age
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year old could go to a medical facility and ask for an STD shot. Okay and they're not allowed to
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0:26:45 --> 0:26:[privacy contact redaction] of all that's a violation of our federal law but I won't get
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too much in the weeds there. There's another, I mean it's secondly, it's a huge attack on
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parental rights. There's another bill being proposed right now in our state legislature
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which has a bill in both houses which says that every school in New York state would have to teach
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comprehensive sexual education to all the children starting in kindergarten.
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Okay they want to teach five-year-olds about sex education. So what we're seeing here is
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There are other bills that are pushing to become law that are fierce attacks on parental rights.
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I'm just giving you those two and they're attacking our very freedoms, our very essence of
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what it means to be free. Oh we can lock you up into quarantine facilities anytime we want for no
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reason. These are things that are the very cornerstone, the very basis of our society
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everywhere. Everywhere on this globe parents should have the right to raise their children
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as they deem fit. You are the ones that know your children. You made them. You raised them.
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You get to decide how they learn about sex education and when they learn about sex education
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of this for a moment. If a child is allowed of any age is allowed to go get STD shots without
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their parents knowledge what if that child is allergic to one of the ingredients in that shot
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then what happens? The kid gets the shot, the kid goes home and now all of a sudden they start
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going into some sort of you know allergic reaction. They're having a shock, they can't
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breathe whatever. The parent doesn't even know that they just got a shock. The parent has no
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It's absolute insanity. This is what's going on in New York and you know there is there's a ground
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pops up like oh they're trying to push this bill through oh my gosh are you kidding? You know and
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then it's like you try and put that fire out and then while you're trying to put that fire out or
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as soon as you get that fire out there's another one over here that pops up right and we can't just
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lawsuit and meanwhile you've got all these people who are suffering you know probably children but
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regulation or some of these insane bills that are coming up here in New York State.
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you so much thank you for your fight. I've got a couple of comments before Stephen asks his
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well you said you've been working most of the year on this matter so how is that funding happening
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and then secondly what's your view on Ryan Oformick's comment you know that and it's
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and as a lawyer I say majority corrupted but not totally corrupted either two. How are you funding
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this all this work and your overall view of the U.S. court system and the corruption of judges?
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Yeah so as for the funding this quarantine lawsuit I am self-funding. I've been doing it pro bono for
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property tax certiorari attorney for like [privacy contact redaction]arted doing this work and
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and I basically donations are how I can keep doing the work. People you know I have a donate
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button on my website coxlawyers.com and I have you know some some people that are basically very
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very concerned about this issue and concerned about the fight and you know they're helping to
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in various parts of New York so it's definitely not great in the sense that you know the left
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is so well funded they can do you know pretty much anything at the on the drop of a dime but
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the other to the other part of your of your question with regards to the courts
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Conservative but New York City doesn't and because New York City doesn't and they have such a large
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population it's kind of like whatever New York City votes wins and so it's the same thing with
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My case was brought this quarantine case was brought in the state courts in New York
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and that area where we brought the case which is up in western New York which is where my lead
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plaintiff Senator George Borello that's his district that's where he lives and represents
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that said that all the health care workers in New York State had to get the COVID shot
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court and she won of course again the governor is appealing and bringing it to the next appellate
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division to try and get it overturned so it really depends what court you're in what state you're in
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and whether your judges are appointed or your judges are elected so here in New York State
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governors so it's again really super important things that people don't think about but when
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you're electing a governor you're not just electing that person for that role that governor gets to
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appoint judges it's when a vacancy comes up they can appoint a judge so anyway it depends on where
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you are. Bobby Anne that's that's that's most helpful and when I use the word corrupt judges
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I think it's interchangeable with politicized judges but perhaps not I should have I should say
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judges who don't rely on the rule of law but who follow politics that's a more
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accurate description of what I mean and certainly you know some judges are corrupted but I'm not
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saying that that's really not where I'm headed and it's a problem here in Australia and you
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Bobby Anne I don't know where Stephen is that's okay we will go with Rose first Rose Roloff.
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in Florida and they basically gutted SB [privacy contact redaction]d it with a vanilla basically paper 252
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so that oh well for COVID you don't have to but now it's wide open for any other pandemic that
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they may choose to declare so we've got the exact same problem in Florida that people aren't aware
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of and I think it's important especially if DeSantis declares he wants to run for 2024 and
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because we removed all your credentials. Yeah yeah I do have a network of attorneys
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now I've been doing you know what is it called fight for freedom I don't know you know since
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since March of [privacy contact redaction]ew Cuomo first said you know
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everybody locked down two weeks to flatten the curve you know the hair on the back of my neck
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of all it's not going to just be two weeks and in New York the lockdowns lasted for months
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and so it's it's become over the past three years that yes I know and have become friends with
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COVID litigation conference in Atlanta Georgia that was held last month or actually was held in
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March the end of March and I went down I was one of the speakers at that conference and actually
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in to educate them on what we've all been fighting and doing the past three years and try to get more
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lawyers involved in picking up the torch and saving the constitution so yeah so there we are
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working on a network definitely. Okay thanks Bobby Anne we've got Stephen back so Stephen
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0:41:23 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction]ephen over to you. Yeah I was here all the time but I hadn't got my camera on and I don't
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know why I'm in a different position from normal on the screen that is so I just wanted to ask you
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from your knowledge how bad do you think it was in New York state I've also heard that California
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through everywhere in the world well that's how they look at it probably so um and so I just wonder
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how bad in your view you don't if you don't know that's fine but was it in New York state compared
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from what you've heard? Are you referring specifically to quarantine? The measures in
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inverted commas you know the lockdowns the masks whether the masks were forced and there was no
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escape from that? Kind of everything okay yes um I'm not so familiar on an international level
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some of the public schools were closed for almost two years um with children doing you know remote
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learning uh and the the teachers it has now come out that the teachers unions didn't want to go back
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experiencing tremendous this this is nationwide in the U.S. but particularly in New York the children
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are experiencing huge deficits in learning um the younger kids who were supposed to be learning how
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to read at that time many of them are now delayed and and having problems with reading and understanding
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and everything with the masks and the social distancing just closing the schools what they've
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to pull their kids out of the public schools and put them into the parochial schools or the charter
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school you know the the private schools you know those are the ones that are going to suffer the
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the class up here and the class down here uh which is which is what they wanted right they
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the other agenda i can see emerging is that they want to destroy nation states by reducing uh the
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populations of the world's um states uh the the confidence that the people have in their politicians
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and you can see that everywhere certainly in the united kingdom there is no respect for politicians
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the peace so and then the global authorities will come in with their immigrant uh armies possibly i
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don't know so um what i wanted to ask you asked you were talking about whack-a-mole you feel like
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you've got to do it because there's another fire over there's another fire over there there's no
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fire engine so don't you think the answer is that we need to teach people don't understand about
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totalitarianism they seem to they they think it's all um how should i say uh theoretical when in
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like tyranny but that doesn't really encapsulate what we understand by totalitarianism so i wonder
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name maybe in a title for a group but but new york state against big brother and then
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you know so on the the model we've got for this group we could do exactly the same in new york
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state or in america because i think the battle is going to be won in america what so what are
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your thoughts on that yes um so there is um there are many grassroots groups that have
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one of them which i i failed to mention earlier when i was talking about my quarantine lawsuit
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to alert the public to what's going on bad bills coming through albany or being proposed in albany
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um obviously the quarantine lawsuit and keeping everybody up to date on that um we we need more
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uh but bobby it wouldn't you wouldn't have to be raising the alarm about specific fires
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yeah so we need to get to the situation where people are triggered by certain events happening
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totalitarianism at the moment they don't understand this i've got it in my own family it's crazy yes
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and the problem this is the issue that i've been dealing with for three years right i mean they
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said lockdown two weeks to flatten the curve you know save your neighbors save your grandmother
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and immediately i was like guys okay they can't do this this is this is not how it works here's how
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it works you know and the problem which is exactly what you're saying which is what i said before
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0:48:37 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]e don't know what's going on they don't know what's going on number one number two
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0:48:44 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] what was going on they need to like you're saying they need to recognize that that is
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0:48:49 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] it is a violation of their right it is totalitarianism i call it tyranny
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uh and which is the definition of tyranny is when somebody in power takes uh or brings gives
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themselves an authority that they they don't have they don't have a right to right that's the
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definition of tyranny the problem is you have to educate the public to what their rights are
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if they know what their rights are when they see something coming at them and attacking their
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rights then they'll automatically step up and say wait a minute you can't do that sorry you're
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stepping on my rights they don't know their rights because particularly here in the u.s and i don't
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0:49:35 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]e but particularly here in the u.s they stop teaching
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civics classes in the schools so they don't teach the constitution they should be teaching the
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0:49:47 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]arting in kindergarten not sex education they should be talking about the
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0:49:51 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]arting in kindergarten and going every year straight up through 12th
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grade and then into the universities and did they teach that when you were at school bovyan
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0:50:02 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] civics classes they were way more prevalent than they are today
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today they're there i mean there are some schools that don't even say the pledge of allegiance
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it's it's horrific and they're doing it on purpose the education system has been
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rewired really particularly particularly in states like new york you know perhaps not in
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0:50:26 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ate in the nation but um the danger is that yeah i mean i just wrote a sub stack
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the future and it's but it's more than that bovyan because actually what they're doing
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what they want to do in addition to so breaking the middle class breaking nation states but they
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want to break social bonds very importantly and social bonds is part of the is uh what the
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universe 25 experiment is about breaking social bonds so that would include breaking
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uh relationships within a family but also breaking relationships with friends uh breaking uh
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relationships with your country with your culture breaking social bonds that's what happened to the
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mice in the universe 25 experiment he had 150 i think it was mice or 170 mice uh left out of 10
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thousand uh he bred them up you know they had loads of space initially then they got overpopulated
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and then the social bonds were broken he ended up with 150 mice came down to 150 they all died
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0:51:37 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]arted to die he couldn't understand it and then he finally worked it out i think i'm right in
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saying this and he said that the 150 or 170 remaining would all die because their social
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social bonds had been broken and that's what they're doing they're in my opinion
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they are trying to break the social bond this is unbelievable evil by people who
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uh yeah guilty of hubris arrogance and hubris i don't know what they think
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absolutely the the attack is um on it's coming from multiple you know i was
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my house and i was walking into the event and i was speaking with a woman and she said you know
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um the group that i'm a part of is focusing on this and then you know my friend is in this other
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group and they're focusing on this and then you know you're focusing on the quarantines and blah
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and i said yeah i said they are coming at us from all aspects of our society and our world
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um and it definitely can feel overwhelming um but if if there are groups that are focusing
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on certain pinpointed goals um then we can and it's and it's you know a coordination between groups
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we can definitely overcome it um the the the will of people for their freedom and for their rights i
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think is much greater than um the the totalitarian or the tyrannical regimes that we're seeing so
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it's just reaching those people and i think you and i are saying the same thing steven
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it's reaching those people and letting them know that yeah you know what i'm sorry but you know the
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governor of new york can't tell you to wear a mask on your face you know she can't tell you to wear
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you know a pin in your hair you know she can't tell you to wear you know your hat you know
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tilted to the right or left you know that's not a power that the governor has you know so
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0:53:56 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]and their rights um and then understand okay sorry you can't do this
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that's tyranny and i'm not going to listen to you right so problem is bobby and i don't think a lot
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0:54:12 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]e uh maybe not in this group either um they don't understand the word tyranny because
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they don't need to understand it in their view and they don't need to understand the word
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totalitarianism either because that happens in the soviet union it doesn't happen in the united
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states of america doesn't happen in england united sorry united kingdom um and so they think they
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don't need to know about it and if you uh try and get them to to think about it they don't want to
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do it because it's too uncomfortable and they say oh that won't happen here in the uk for example
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0:54:47 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]e don't it's it's actually um it's fascinating that when i talk to people about
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about that i say wait a minute am i sure that i just spent the last year and a half of my life
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working on this yeah i'm pretty sure would you like to see the judge's decision you know and then
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0:55:17 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]e come up to me and say oh you know i was talking about your case the other day
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0:55:21 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]e were looking at me like i had three heads and they were you know and a lot of times
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0:55:26 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ually use it oh yes they would my response to that is well
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if the government didn't actually want to use their forced isolation and quarantine regulation
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0:55:41 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] year at the trial court level and why are they now fighting
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0:55:48 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] now that they've lost and a judge has said you can't do that get
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0:55:55 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction] you don't have this power why are they now fighting the attorney general has
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and and they are why are they doing that if they don't really want to use the power i mean that's
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do something like that to them but i'm here to tell you that they will sure and all you have to
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say to them is why do you think that that the united states of america and new york state in
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particularly you could say um lock down their schools for did you say two years some places
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they were closed for two years oh my goodness that's terrible for the children and kids some
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schools were doing um you know alternate like you know you could go into school this day for half a
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or like this was your week to go in but then but then that was the other kids week to go in i mean
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it was that's horrendous there was no there was no learning going on so the arbitrary rules and
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they were arbitrary there's no way that they can be related to health those arbitrary rules must
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have been very very confusing for many children even in stable families so anyway i'll give
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someone else a chance yes very good this very good discussion and the education issue i just saw
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0:57:26 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]in gregory is talking on education on a world premiere today on
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0:57:32 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]in gregory does some good stuff all right glenn
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hi i'm glad to speak with you bobby ann um i'm going to start out from uh what charles said
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and uh relative to uh our uh is there in fact a potential that there's a large number of completely
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corrupt judges so if if i look at what you described uh it seems like a so simple a case of a power that
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was being grabbed from the legislature and completely against both federal and state
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0:58:08 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]itutions so how is it a rational judge that was following any kind of principle
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0:58:14 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] you other than total corruption
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yeah right well he didn't he ruled in my favor so okay all right well i again uh charles
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quantified it as a well uh perhaps it's not just corruption i'm saying it is corruption so let's
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now walk you through the the situation you have and potentially a more efficient use of your
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ability you you were taking this on on behalf of the legislative branch is that not correct
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0:58:50 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ate legislators so under rational conditions they
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0:58:56 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] been funding the effort is that not correct no no it's a pro bono case i did the case
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no no i what i'm saying is you're doing it on their behalf if if they were in fact defending
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themselves because that's what they're doing they're supposed to be defending their own body
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0:59:14 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] uh either concluded that gee this is our role to defend our legislative body
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uh we will go get gather the funding for that or we'll contribute our time so many of them are in
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0:59:28 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] lawyers why couldn't they have been doing all of the background work for you and and just
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having you file yeah they do spend um time with the pr side of this case doing interviews um and
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0:59:45 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]atements and press conferences and uh you know issuing press releases and stuff so
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0:59:51 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction] um but yeah this has been a a huge um the the lack of
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1:00:01 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]ream media coverage on this has been a huge blow to um to the really to the whole idea of
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i get that i'll get to that i'll get to that part of it but let me continue walking through this so
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in general uh the legislative branch should have been defending itself and that should have been
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1:00:21 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction] and i'm sure you misunderstood glenn so i think that bobby is having a parallel
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1:00:27 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]ood that um bobby ann was representing a few legislators
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not the whole legislative body is that what is that correct bobby ann yeah excuse me steven
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1:00:43 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]even i don't know why you're interrupting me
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did i interrupt you no no you didn't know but i'm just i just see parallel conversations going on
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it's my question why don't you let me complete it
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thank you so so again if if this were an honest body meaning the legislative branch and it was
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concerned around the duties that are signed to it according to its constitution shouldn't even all
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of the democrats been in favor of funding the action against this step by an agency
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but the democrats the democrats didn't even talk to me about it democrats won't even talk i'm asking
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you that from a context of of a legitimate mechanism of government of how governments are
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supposed to work where there's duties and in this case where they uh where an agency was
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1:01:39 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction] their duty you know it's like the old days when remember when
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legislative branches were concerned about free speech and and and defended that under all
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conditions i'm i'm simply saying isn't this isn't this a case where in a normal environment
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the the every every member of that legislature should have been defending the legislatures
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and and that you never had to get involved at all yeah well one would think but that's not how it
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works particularly when there's a super majority of uh democrats in our state senate and our state
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assembly it's it's not going to happen a a a super majority shouldn't relate to people ignoring
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1:02:22 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]itutions and ignoring uh rule of law so uh in this particular case i as a sort
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1:02:31 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction] been more useful uh if if you if you laid it back to
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the legislature to say gee you guys need to put the effort into this uh to continue and and then
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allowed you uh bobby and to to to work more on the on the awareness side of the of the avenue
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1:02:54 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] been spent in in preparing the public and getting the
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public engaged in it uh i mean particularly i mean a lot of people i think have followed you
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1:03:05 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]rong woman and you know looking out for for basic parts of of law and and and that
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1:03:18 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] been been more useful if you were able to allocate your time
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1:03:23 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] the the path of informing the public and getting them engaged in the same way as as
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has happened with the uh bud light that at certain point the public finally got into the game and
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said no more this hasn't got anything to do with our values and and how would you bud light and all
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of budweiser yeah well i i that's exactly what i've been spending my time on is is trying to
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raise awareness and that's why i do what i do and uh okay and have been doing so uh yeah that's
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that's exactly what's been going on and that's what needs to continue going on but there needs
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1:04:01 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]ream media getting involved in this because correct correct it's going to
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take a lot longer and there's going to be a lot more pain involved uh with you know more lawsuits
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1:04:13 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]ed and you know more bad bills and all this other stuff let me suggest a way that
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maybe we can accelerate this and short-circuit it so uh i'm i'm leading the humanity coalition
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1:04:26 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]e in this uh group that are that are working with me uh both across canada
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1:04:31 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]afted a petition to take to congress it's titled campaign petitions
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1:04:40 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]ore democracy the subtitle is eliminate the billionaire control of the party
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caucus uh in that the party caucus which becomes a tyranny mechanism that completely eliminates any
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notion of one one person one vote has completely turned upside down both our uh our cat our national
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1:05:03 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ate constitution and and therefore uh going forward
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and eliminating that control and and petitioning uh the individual uh legislators to say it's time
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1:05:18 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ion from party caucuses because they have nothing to do
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1:05:26 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]itution and and so that's that's an item we've we've
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drafted and we're about ready to go out with and uh is that something that both you think you could
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1:05:39 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] and and and help engage others to also uh support yeah i mean i
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have to again is yeah i'd have to read it through i i just the the reaching the masses on um any of
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these topics is is a huge challenge of that everybody that is has been working for the past
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three years to you know try to retain our rights and uphold the constitution no matter what country
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you're in um getting to the mainstream media and getting these crucial messages out is the big
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problem so it doesn't really matter what the topic is whether it's a petition that you want to do
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whether it's quarantines whether it's masking whether it's six feet social distancing whether
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it's lockdowns whether you know any of this stuff it's always goes back to the same problem of
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well it's not not exactly the same in in that uh a party caucus mechanism is is always been counter
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1:06:43 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]itution unfortunately it's been allowed to occur at some point it was probably
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viewed as advisory it's long since gone completely away from advisory it's an edict it's an edict
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from a single leader at the top of of a party and and as such completely violates every notion
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of one person one vote it overrides it's a dictator mechanism that overrides every other part of how a
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legislative body operates so i'm i'm simply saying uh isn't this actually true from an operational
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viewpoint and therefore we should be pressing forward to say all party caucuses of any type at
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uh i i don't know that's that's a political question that's that's not a legal question so
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no that's not true it is a legal question it applies it's not a conversation i'm going to
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get into because i feel like it's political i i don't i don't do politics this is about
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human rights this is not about politics yes charles yeah look the glenn if bobby n says
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politically doesn't answer it doesn't have to answer it please ask questions rather than having
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1:08:00 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]ion would would you support a public move uh to
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encourage the all congressmen let's let's add a federal level uh to uh ignore any position of
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well i i think politicians no matter who you are what your name is or what level you are should
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1:08:44 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]itution is the only way that we're we're going to get out of
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this mess but um yeah that's that's the problem is that people don't uphold the constitution
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and we're seeing that particularly in new york state we're seeing it at the federal level there
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1:09:04 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]enty of agency overreaches going on in the united states at the federal level the cdc issuing
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1:09:10 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]ruck down the united states supreme court it's completely
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1:09:15 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]itutional wrong branch of government same thing with osha issuing a reg that said that all
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1:09:27 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]oyees get the covid shot otherwise they had to wear a mask and test weekly at work
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1:09:33 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]ruck that down wrong branch of government same thing with
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the epa they made a regulation that to control the emissions air emissions out of a certain
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1:09:45 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]ruck that down wrong branch of government complete overreach by the executive
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1:09:50 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]es of how the executive branch whether it's the federal
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1:09:55 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]ate level is out of control doing what they want and the attitude is again i wrote
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1:10:02 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]ack on this the attitude is catch me if you can i'm gonna do what i want i know i don't
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have this power i know i'm not allowed to do this but i'm gonna do it anyway and come get me if you
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1:10:13 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] me see what the court says if the court strikes it down and says
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i can't do it okay then maybe i'll stop doing it but if the court doesn't then i'm just gonna keep
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so that attitude of catch me if you can is has to stop the way that that stops is by waking enough
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1:10:44 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]e who honor the constitution and know what the constitution means
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and says to run for office and help them get elected it's a very simple equation the the
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wreak havoc on our rights so the problem in that very simple equation is getting enough people
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to know what's going on and like steven said understand what it means when they're looking
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at tyranny when they're looking at a totalitarian rule that's being shoved in their face if they
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don't know that it's tyrannical then they're not going to step up and say stop doing it i object
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so the the problem the root of the problem is reaching the people and that means that breaking
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through the censorship there's terrible censorship going on at all levels yeah
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1:11:38 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] so so my only comment would be that i believe the people can be reached
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i could i believe they can be reached far quicker than than an election cycle that we can do that
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1:11:50 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] and and myself and many others believe that large-scale group prayer is
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one path to awaken the locals and to get them engaged and get them engaged very soon and around
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that all of the representatives in congress should should follow the people's intent not the power
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brokers thank you thank you thank you glenn so bobby and we now have jack and jack wrote a thesis
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in the 60s on comedy but he's not a comedian but he's close to a comedian hello jack
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hi yeah well i'm writing a book right now where i do bring in humor and certainly it's one of the
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things we've seen it's a rebellion that's going on all over the country of the united states
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and much of it is expressed initially through humor because humor is a mechanism for expressing
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you know bobby and where i live in oregon exactly pretty much a parallel across the
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other side of the country from you and of course we're seeing the same identical phenomena here
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and the lack of learning they did some achievement testing here just recently and they found that
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1:13:30 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction] two years of school they haven't learned a damn thing through all of the you know
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1:13:37 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ronic education that supposedly supports the planning human beings because it's natural
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1:13:43 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]e to learn from other human beings from their elders and so that that's good news
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that we're not if we're already elderly like you and i then then we can learn from
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from youtube and so forth but we're not we don't as children now you already brought up something
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that i was going to ask about and that is it was the it was the fifth circuit
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in new orleans which reversed the decision of osha regarding mandatory vaccination
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1:14:24 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]oyees of companies of over [privacy contact redaction]oyees i think that's what you were referring to
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1:14:30 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]cuit decision and it was very well written and it was upheld by the
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1:14:37 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] and so that's an extremely important precedent for all of us and all the agencies
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are all legal challenges to agencies that are violating the separation of powers and that has
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been the the basic legal mechanism for everything that's gone on violation of powers and that fifth
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circuit opinion was was brilliantly written i thought i really was impressed with it but that's
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what they focused on the separation of powers and they didn't go into the weeds regarding the
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virtues or vices involved in the and the vaccination risks and the vaccination
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illegalities it was separation of powers period so maybe you could talk a little bit about that
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oh i would also add that we're seeing all the same things here this is not only a national
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and it's about an international scheme and it's uh it's been orchestrated from very high places
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and obviously the who as has been mentioned has been controlled by the gates foundation
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and then there's some very wealthy psychopaths in charge and that's one thing that people aren't
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recognizing that uh our country uh and much of the world is run by psychopaths because uh
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psychopaths represent about four percent of the population that doesn't seem like very much
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i i've met quite a few in my life and i've been burned by a few of them even though i should know
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better and they're really the only uh uh clinical subdivision that really seeks power
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uh i don't think the rest of us are are interested in power i'm certainly not i've
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1:16:44 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]igator on a whole series of federal research projects and the part of it i
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don't like is having to manage people i don't like telling other people what to do or trying
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to control their behavior but that's what psychopaths live off of and uh i'm in my 80s now
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and i can think of only two presidents in my lifetime who i do not think were psychopaths
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john kennedy was one and he died trying to fight the psychopaths and i think probably jimmy carter
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wasn't either jimmy carter was a little naive but i don't think he was a psychopath everyone else
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every one of them clinton was a horrible is a horrible psychopath obama was a horrible psychopath
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horrible psychopath these the the democratic psychopaths are sweet talkers they're very
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articulate they're very clever uh they were attractive they they look good they can shoot
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baskets and all that but obama is yeah it's very interesting he went to he took his first two years
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as an undergraduate at occidental college in southern california which is a traditional
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rival of the college i attended famona but then he transferred to columbia
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1:18:05 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]udied under zabigniew brzezinski author of you know the
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1:18:14 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] and that's what's going on right now with this with this war in ukraine it's all
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1:18:21 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] and we are losing russia and china are winning and they will win
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but that's kind of an aside but all the people who are making these decisions and controlling
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recognized that 100 years ago or more and he recognized it in terms of people who could lie
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without conscience what a wonderful competitive advantage and all you have to do is overcome
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that's why the smartest ones and the richest ones rise to positions of influence and power
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in corporations uh and in politics so that's what we're up against we're not like up against
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1:19:19 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]e with a normal conscience and but we do outnumber them about 19 to 1 and that's the
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that's what we have to take advantage of and the law i think is the the surest way of doing that
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so i think you're you're on the right field on the right side i'm a psychologist so i don't have
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1:19:44 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ake of me to go into that field
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1:19:49 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]cuit ruling was about osha and they told osha you do not have the
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power to do that yes so that ruling um which was january of [privacy contact redaction] over a year ago
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um that was a very clear that decision was a very clear explanation of separation of powers
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and why osha which was or which is an agency in the executive branch under the president
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doesn't have the power to make a rule like that and our um my quarantine case is the same
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as i had mentioned earlier is the same premise of separation of powers the constitution lays out
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three co-equal branches of government judicial which is the court and the judges legislative
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there to run their agencies and then at the federal level it's the president and whoever he
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appoints to run his agencies so the the executive branch um and their agencies will do something
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that they want to do um what we've seen over the last three years with covet is they do it in the
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name of covet right we're trying to save you we're trying to keep you safe we're trying to
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but what they're really doing is taking a power that they don't have and it's it's a negative
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1:21:31 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] on the citizens so um you know the three co-equal branches of government are key because
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they're supposed to work with checks and balances on each other so that not one rises above the
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others they're supposed to all stay co-equal they just have their own separate domains that
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they're supposed to operate in when one of them crosses over and takes a power from the other one
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1:21:57 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] a big problem and that's the the idea of the doctrine of separation of powers stay in your
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1:22:04 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] everybody do your own job and we'll all be fine but that's not what's happening and i was
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1:22:11 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]rike that down that osha reg i was very pleased to see uh scotish
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strike down the cdc regulation which was cdc is the center for disease control for anybody that's
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not familiar with that uh agency and they had issued um a reg that said that landlords across
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that would spread coven okay so they did that almost immediately that was that was almost if
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it wasn't march 2020 it was maybe april or may and when they did that that is the moment i knew
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that this was not about a virus because my my world was real estate law right it was property
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1:23:07 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ate law and so i worked on a daily basis for property owners
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and when they issued that regulation my phone blew up my email blew up and i had people calling
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me texting me writing me saying wait a minute hold on they're telling my tenants they don't have to
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pay rent and they can't get evicted and how am i supposed to pay my bills like i use that rent
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money to go and pay my property taxes on the property the maintenance on the property my
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mortgage on the property my insurance on the property so it was a direct attack on the middle
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class that's what it was because the majority of landlords in our country are mom and pop landlords
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they're regular people who just saved up bought a property that's a multi-family a lot of them live
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in one part of the property and then rent out the other part or parts of the property and that's how
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they make a living that's how they pay their bills that's how they put food on their table
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1:24:11 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]en so by telling landlords you can't kick your tenants out if they don't pay
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the rent you're telling the landlords you're not going to get any money coming in but you have to
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keep paying for your property right and now what what should have the government done the government
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1:24:32 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]e stay in their rental properties and not get kicked out
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because they thought it would spread covid they should have just issued rent vouchers to the
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1:24:44 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]e the tenants the people that were renting the places out because
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then you're not giving the money to the tenants and saying to the tenants here's some money yeah
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1:24:58 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] given it to the landlords and said here this is for your
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1:25:03 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] not bleeding out money and your tenant can stay in their property
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1:25:11 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] it was very obvious what was going on so it was it was a complete attack on the
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1:25:16 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]s across the nation were going belly up they either had to they either had
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to sell their properties for for less than they were worth to get out from under them because the
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bills were piling up and they couldn't keep the bills up because the tenants weren't paying the
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rent because the government told them they didn't have to or they were just you know going belly up
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foreclosure or bankruptcy you know and block rock was standing by to gobble up those properties
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yes the big corporations yes the big corporations definitely could swoop in and buy these properties
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for less than what they were worth and block rack was offering huge amounts of money even more than
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they're worth and jack and bobby anna i think that a lot of people don't understand why the middle
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1:26:06 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]n't got a middle class you've got the rich and the poor
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so you've got the oppressed you've got the oppressed and you've got the oppressor but you
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1:26:15 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]ed party if you like in in society and the middle class is the common factor
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in democracies and it's only happened in the western world arguably in
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1:26:31 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]arted i don't know after the second world war probably the 50s and
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americans yeah so we need to we need to educate the public about the the importance of the middle
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class as well and any attack on it should be perceived as a return to tyranny because we have
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1:26:59 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] of the time and i'm talking about kind of yeah very good
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all right we've got lots of questions jack thank you for that and i just wonder if you want to note
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what bobby an said a few 10 minutes ago and it's anna de buisere has also been saying it to us
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1:27:21 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]n't seen anybody really doing much of it and that is to educate people about their
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rights and it's an interesting thought i bobby anna noted i mean moderating there's many steven
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no one has really you know we've talked about it but it's interesting we've been talking about
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jab injuries but and we and i urge us to think about gosh how do we educate people about
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1:27:46 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]e won't bobby anna you're totally right people don't know about the
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1:27:50 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]itution or our rights they they will believe what government tells them so that's a call out
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to everybody for all of us to think about that jack thank you for your comments well we don't
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know what to fight for and obviously yeah if you're in a fight and you don't know what to fight for
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if you don't know what the rules if you don't know the rules are you yeah if you don't know
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1:28:10 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] very good um now bobby and we've got mark next on question mark
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presented to us two weeks ago on 5g and mark is globally renowned on his 5g knowledge so mark over
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to you it's been really good to hear what you have to say bobby um court cases obviously they're
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with the corruption etc the um you know within the judiciary however
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i've had some very very interesting results positive results in relation to the 5g narrative
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and the reason for that when the judiciary are presented with the you know the contaminated
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vaccine when they're presented with the interconnection with the 5g network
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when they're presented with their demise their extermination it's a very powerful tool i mean
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you talk about new york new york's a very interesting part of the world i call it
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let's say ground zero and i call it ground zero because i've never seen as much
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5g transmitters or extermination equipment ever if you were going to pull an electromagnetic
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radiation pulse weapon new york definitely would be the place for that and i'm pretty sure that's
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what they're planning but the threat of death you see we have a lot of corruption in the um
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in the judiciary unfortunately you know a lot of these people do is that tool for lots of different
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reasons monetary etc etc political however if we play the uh let's say their own self-interest
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nobody wants to die and this this equipment will kill and most certainly is killing people
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significant numbers across the world we see a significant number of people who are now dying
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in their beds at night i'm pretty sure it's part of the target acquisition weapon system that's
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1:30:21 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]alled by bill gates with his azure 5g lockheed uh network where we can actually
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surgically target acquire and cause a tonic seizures from people who unfortunately have
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1:30:34 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]e who had taken the pcr test one of the things i'm pretty concerned
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about there's a lot of there's a lot of um let's say information about the negative effects of
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vaccines what we seem to miss is the uh the negative effects of the pcr test and the loaded
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weaponry the uh the graphite ferrous oxide so basically the carbon nanotube uh payloads that
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1:31:03 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ually put into the hybrid gel that was actually squirted into people's nasal passages
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so where they had a bud it was it was the uh basically a small injecting type uh piece of
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equipment the reason why they had to get it in very very close into the brain where these
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nanoparticulates these carbon nanotubes can then pass across the blood brain barrier and they can
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1:31:31 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ivated and i think what was quite interesting in the science that we have is a 450 nanometers
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frequency which unbelievably is 666 terahertz so we've got a lot of people walking around who
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unfortunately didn't take the shot as obviously they were quite concerned about the uh you know
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the experimentation and the speed of how it actually came about but a lot of people actually
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1:31:56 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction] and what i'm you know from a from a legal perspective is it not the
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case that what we need to be bringing into these court cases is the terror of what's really going
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on to these to the judiciary because you know i'll meet these judiciary i've met quite a few
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after like said i've had quite a number of successes in the courts the panic when they
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realize that the equipment that's being installed will kill them then that then leaves them with
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two choices either go along with the cult members do as you're told you know or for
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monetary gain or whatever and die it's quite a simple choice equipments there they've installed
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new york's absolutely horrific by the way i would think it's probably one of the most dangerous
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places in the world to be living at the minute uh due to the densification of the 5g network
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1:32:57 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] the new york um you know authorities talking about
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the temperature increase so we've got this climate emergency temperature increase however
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we've got these same bodies installing multiple transmitters that cause microwave radiation as
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1:33:18 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] oven cause temperature increase now if let's see i increase
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the temperature of one and a half to two degrees in a cityscape obviously in the summer that's
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1:33:31 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]rophic because i'm adding that to the summer temperature so where we're going
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1:33:37 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]e die from this due to the added burden of microwave radiation on top
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of natural occurring temperature increase so it's not really a complicated argument i have and i'm
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1:33:51 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]e in the judiciary they understand the fact that they're going to die
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because this is going to kill them it's not always about it the people who are behind this
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1:34:03 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]anning mass murder and unfortunately those judiciary who
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for some foolish reason want to go along with the cult agenda it's going to kill them
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and i think this possibly could be a very very powerful tool in any cold case i've just generated
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1:34:24 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]ing case in birmingham where birmingham city council fitted 107 000 transmitters
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1:34:31 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction] lights each one's 100 milliwatts and causing a thermal temperature increase in a body
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at one so much so that the maximum exposure to one milliwatt is actually six minutes so they've got
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they've got a hundred and seven thousand hundred milliwatt so 100 times the eknup guideline each
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one has a 10 mile footprint so i cause this massive increase in microwave radiation temperature across
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the cityscape at the same time birmingham city council call a climate emergency because they
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1:35:04 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction] to see a 1.5 to 2 degrees centigrade and they've actually installed the equipment
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that not only causes a temperature increase but causes the coronavirus type symptoms
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so this is another issue that has to be addressed because like i said the threat of death
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1:35:22 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]ion to individuals within any of these organizations that's going to panic them
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1:35:27 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]ually taken into a court then i'm pretty sure they're going to be
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pretty upset i mean no judge is going to be pretty on side of the cult if he realizes being injected
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with a nanoparticulate contaminant that i can track them and i can actually kill them with it
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you know these atonic seizures that we see in beds across the you know for as far as i'm concerned
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1:35:54 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]em that's being deployed and i think it's a very interesting way to
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tackle these cult members because unfortunately you know we're banging our heads off the brick wall
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it's a bit like the child services programs where i'll see people being you know children
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being taken from families etc when this thing turns around and the judiciary realize that they
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are the target for this weapon that could possibly change their opinion on what's happening
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1:36:27 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ion because i've been saying for some time
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1:36:31 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]en start dying suddenly and bobby and so what mark is
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1:36:37 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ate is probably the place in the world not just state in america but the
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place in the world where you're where you're most at danger from these 5g towers and considering
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1:36:53 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction] the injections but the pcr test and if you remember they were
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1:36:59 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]en all the while in schools i was thinking about this why are they putting that
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1:37:05 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction] beneath the crib reform plate um just beneath the brain if you like
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why are they doing that and mark came along two weeks ago and for the first time i hadn't heard
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anybody talking about this anywhere in the world mark uh enlightened me and us uh but actually
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1:37:27 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]e if you like by by stealth so i was thinking why are they
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1:37:36 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction] about diagnosis you know to diagnose as many covet
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1:37:42 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction] fear into the population and then mark comes along and sure
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enough there were two reasons it seems that they were injecting sorry yes using the pcr test
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uh to increase the fear through diagnoses but also to set them up for attack from 5g towers
871
1:38:05 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] i misrepresented you no no that's correct the uh the the carbon nanotubes
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that we're seeing the um in hydrogel can be activated using some of the frequencies in the
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5g network it it it was one of the things you know we had a lot of people who resisted the
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contaminated vaccine you know it was rushed uh unfortunately there was a lot of people who
875
1:38:33 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]s the whole purpose of grilling this bud this cotton bud around
876
1:38:40 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]able uh it's like a fiber with the um and it's just squirreled around
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1:38:50 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]s the uh the contaminants directly into the uh as close
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as possible to the brain they then pass across into across the blood brain barrier and i know
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particulates they're injected in there and it allows the ear um a tracking with the um with
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the 5g network so i can basically see these people but mark why so what is the specific
881
1:39:19 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction] for bobby ann you're trying to transmit to her the danger that new york state citizens
882
1:39:25 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction] of getting out the i think he's quite right mark
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mark um bobby and we can put you in touch with him i can put you in touch with him but the population
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of new york need to be warned that they are most at risk of these attacks in the future well actually
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now as well so um well one of the one of the one of the things i'll talk with me steven obviously
886
1:39:50 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction] uh where a local authority well the government tried to gag me over the 5g
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network unfortunately for the uh they said i was a conspiracy theorist i don't mind that label at
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all not not one piece because i know what a conspiracy is and also know what a theory is
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so i don't mind that label however i was taking a court and said i was a conspiracy theorist
890
1:40:16 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]ating that this 5g network would kill them
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um
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they need to be frightened if it's true and well it's it's exactly well that's exactly what
893
1:40:29 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction] their whole argument was that um um i was frightening people who
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1:40:35 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]e who would believe what i was actually saying people will believe in it because
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they will become an ale in the environment where this 5g network had been installed
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and consequently so as we went through and had lots of witness statements and the judge he then
897
1:40:52 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] be debated sure it must be he said it must be can i ask you have you been
898
1:41:00 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]n't been in new york but one of the things i was quite concerned about i
899
1:41:05 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]oyment of 5g in new york and also some of the coronavirus
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type symptoms where there was a chap he was a consultant in a in an icu in new york where he
901
1:41:22 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]e in the coronavirus pandemic were suffering from uh pulmonary edema or what
902
1:41:29 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]e would see is altitude sickness he said it looked as if they'd been
903
1:41:35 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] at 30 000 foot where they had this total flooding in the look when you lose
904
1:41:40 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]y you'll start to suffer pneumonia you start to flood and along
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then that's what this guy anyway they sacked him but that was quite interesting because i was
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following the whole 5g network because i knew 5g is what they're going to kill everybody with
907
1:41:57 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] a depopulation plan 5g is the trigger it's the trigger for
908
1:42:04 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ivation of some of these pathogens but it's also what causes pneumonia flu type
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symptoms i said that early in 2016 [privacy contact redaction] unfortunately
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1:42:17 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ly what i said in those days so it's not that i'm a you
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know i'm not a clairvoyant i just follow the science and because i've been involved in these
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weapons programs in in the early you know early years i realized that there was there was an
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1:42:37 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]e getting flu i mean a lot of the people i work with are dead a lot of
914
1:42:43 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]e i work with we were dealing with non-ironizing radiation which the scientific community of telus
915
1:42:48 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ly safe those guys developed cancers and died of leukemia in their 30s our fortunately
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or something expert well i do know why by the way why i did survive that but there was a lot
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1:43:02 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]e in the work that i did didn't didn't survive so i was always of the mind that non-ironized
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radiation wasn't this thing that everybody tells you the same it's not enough energy in the photon
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i mean it's absolutely garbage if i stack photons the same as a laser laser can cut stainless steel
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1:43:20 --> 1:43:26
but the relevance of this to bobby an is that we're trying to raise the alarm a bit with not
921
1:43:26 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] with bobby amber with others but um but the point is that uh of course new york state would as
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you said as we talked about bobby an it would be a target wouldn't it because you know what happens
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in new york and london uh to an extent you know is going to be followed around the world so so they
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would target new york and london and if you remember new in the uk and london they were
925
1:43:50 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]icing psychological torture on the populations they were doing it openly with sage the advising
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1:43:56 --> 1:44:02
uh body to the government and the behavioral insights team otherwise known as the nudge
927
1:44:02 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]icing psychological torture on the british population uh to a point
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1:44:07 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ome in the uk in my opinion so the tyranny in uk was not overt
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1:44:15 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ralia say um but it was the psychological torture i think was
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1:44:22 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] thing and in new york if you remember they were killing people in the hospitals
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with protocols so you know and that was the worst place in the world for killing people in hospital
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as far as i'm aware you know it's difficult to be sure but i think that new york was
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1:44:41 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] people identify where it was worse now we've got and i
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the 5g bit if it's true what mark is saying mark you need to go to new york state and measure
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make the measurements there and then publish that's what i would say but quite as much you've got a
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vote as much chance that the americans let me in the country uh steven i just more certainly wouldn't
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uh the americans definitely would i'm built like julian assange i'm pretty sure they absolutely
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would not want me going to new york and measuring the radiation levels anybody in new york and
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measure those radiation levels i can tell you now they're pretty catastrophic the cause pulling me
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edema their cause and they're having they're having fully weaponized this is this is what i
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call soft kill the soft kill element of 5g is basically just blanket coverage where you'll
942
1:45:34 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]e suffering all sorts of different maladies it's an immune system
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1:45:39 --> 1:45:45
suppressor but the reason why i wanted to interject here with bobby the fact she's a lawyer in this
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state these judges given this evidence they will absolutely see i've had many results but the reason
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why i've had the results is because i've taken the evidence into the court i've got a code code case
946
1:45:57 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]ed kingdom and that code case will show the local authority who
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1:46:05 --> 1:46:12
called a climate emergency a temperature increase actually they were responsible for the installation
948
1:46:12 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] radiation emitters that caused the climate increase and not only that they're
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1:46:18 --> 1:46:25
planning to set fire to the city i can burn a city to the ground with his equipment and this is the
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1:46:25 --> 1:46:30
next one they're going to start seeing burning you're going to start seeing temperature increase
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1:46:30 --> 1:46:36
and everybody's going to say oh it's climate change and then you can have this climate change
952
1:46:36 --> 1:46:42
emergency further lockdowns we've already seen the secret plans of the british government
953
1:46:43 --> 1:46:51
who are talking about this emergency these net zero 15 minute cities get rid of your car
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1:46:51 --> 1:46:57
it's all carbon dioxide we know that's absolutely horse shit and they're going to drive the whole
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narrative because if the the general public do not understand that microwave radiation cause
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temperature increase in cities yeah very good thank you okay we're going to move stephen we're
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going to move we've got five hands up and and bobby and i really think mark is onto something
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here not that he's going to go to new york and not that you have to do this but i think
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1:47:21 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]s with mark's science i think could lead and i'm thinking
960
1:47:29 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]ralia mark we've got pre-bandar in australia there are some 5g experts
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here and this the dangers of this 5g roll out um you know it seems to me the science is certainly
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on mark's side bobby and so food for thought yes i think i think children's health defense
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1:47:50 --> 1:47:58
um here in the u.s. had had a 5g lawsuit or something i'm not i'm not quite sure but
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um yeah that's good mark i'll check mark can you check the children's health defense website
965
1:48:03 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction] the cases that they've been running there mary holland spoke to
966
1:48:08 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction] she's not she's not currently president sorry she's president of children's
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1:48:14 --> 1:48:20
health defense but she's now joined bobby kennedy's team so laura bono is now president of
968
1:48:20 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]en's health defense well chd are a good they're a good group of guys what the what they
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1:48:26 --> 1:48:33
don't understand is 5g is a weapon system and are you in touch with them i do know people in chd
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1:48:33 --> 1:48:37
i could put you in touch with them so if you're here that will remind me let's let's be sure
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that we're going to keep moving mark great work you're doing great work john bodwin
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1:48:41 --> 1:48:48
um hello bobby n i'm going to go a little bit off topic here and talk about loft that's okay
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1:48:49 --> 1:48:57
that's a joke by the way sorry yeah so um i missed you down in atlanta sorry i didn't get to meet you
974
1:48:57 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]age when warner cut me off and i didn't get to talk about what
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i wanted to talk about which is what i'm going to ask you about and do it here instead so let's
976
1:49:08 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ion two cases and controversies going up through 100 years of
977
1:49:14 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]rine ending up in luhan in like 91 and then to iqbal in uh in the 2000s um it seems
978
1:49:23 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]rine is the single uh biggest enemy of the first amendment right to
979
1:49:30 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]s the judges a lot of subjective wiggle room
980
1:49:39 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] anything because you know something that is likely not merely speculative
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1:49:46 --> 1:49:53
i mean if you define speculative it's anything between uh absolutely happened and absolutely
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1:49:53 --> 1:50:00
did not happen okay everything in between is speculative whether it's 99.9 to 0.01
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and so the merely being a qualified now i don't want to talk too much on that i'll just say that
984
1:50:09 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] a duty to the client before them just like doctors have a duty to the patient
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before them and what that what happens is you get a lot of one-off legal strategies and you
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1:50:19 --> 1:50:24
don't have an overall strategy where you can get and other guys have heard me say this here
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1:50:24 --> 1:50:34
you're not hitting multiple legal theories in multiple fora at the same time in order to figure
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1:50:34 --> 1:50:39
out which one works and all you need is one to win and we have not done that we've had individual
989
1:50:39 --> 1:50:46
litigation cases where there's multiple people trying the same legal theory everybody's getting
990
1:50:46 --> 1:50:53
knocked down we're all getting our asses kicked and standing doctrine iqbal has to go it has to
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1:50:53 --> 1:51:00
be challenged and taken out at the supreme court level if unless we do this we leave what charles
992
1:51:00 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] this objective their their own subjectivity to toss anything
993
1:51:07 --> 1:51:12
they don't want you know that federal judges get a call everybody has a boss and they get a call
994
1:51:12 --> 1:51:17
saying you can't take this case you got to get rid of it and then they just use their you know
995
1:51:17 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ate on standing they're like yeah okay uh okay we'll kick
996
1:51:23 --> 1:51:29
that out because it's merely speculative or um the right uh the redress of grievances isn't um
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1:51:31 --> 1:51:35
well that's that's where it would merely speculative i won't go through the traceability
998
1:51:35 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] i think you get what i'm saying how do you feel about getting together with other
999
1:51:41 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]rategy my career was putting multiple teams together around the world
1000
1:51:47 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] for eight figures um for a raytheon or a lockheed martin or a lucent and
1001
1:51:56 --> 1:52:03
we didn't try to hit people individually we tried to win the corporate deal all nationwide
1002
1:52:03 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]rategic effort in multiple locations i never see lawyers doing this
1003
1:52:11 --> 1:52:15
would you be up for that kind of thing do you have any comments on everything i said
1004
1:52:15 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]anding is definitely um an issue it's there are pros and cons if you don't have the
1005
1:52:27 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]s will be completely flooded with with you know lawsuits
1006
1:52:34 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]e just want to get a judicial declaration on something
1007
1:52:43 --> 1:52:51
and there's no you know injury to be resolved or anything like that so it's um it you know it's a
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1:52:51 --> 1:52:59
double-edged sword really but um as far as the idea of um you know getting lawyers together to
1009
1:52:59 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]inate um it's very difficult it's a good idea in theory but it's very difficult
1010
1:53:07 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]ically i mean that conference in um georgia was the first one of its kind and um
1011
1:53:16 --> 1:53:22
it was great because then you could see which areas you wanted to pursue or which areas you
1012
1:53:22 --> 1:53:26
are involved with and then meet other people that are in that involved in that area as well so
1013
1:53:27 --> 1:53:36
i think more uh perhaps more like that would be helpful um but to have a um
1014
1:53:38 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction] in law is um like um there are certain different bars so like if you are
1015
1:53:46 --> 1:53:53
um a a litigator or a trial attorney or you know you'll be a member of one bar which is just like a
1016
1:53:53 --> 1:54:00
a group basically um if you are in you do elder care law or something but you're a member of that
1017
1:54:00 --> 1:54:07
bar and the point of the bars is to meet other attorneys that are in your field and share
1018
1:54:07 --> 1:54:14
information and talk about issues or cases or whatever so that was the whole point of that
1019
1:54:14 --> 1:54:22
that georgia coven litigation conference was to start some sort of a um uh covid litigation bar
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1:54:23 --> 1:54:29
you will um which it was a nationwide thing i mean there were lawyers that i met there from
1021
1:54:29 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]ates on the other side of the country so um yeah that that is an idea and
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1:54:35 --> 1:54:39
that's i think what the point of that organization or that conference was
1023
1:54:42 --> 1:54:49
yeah thank you the john john the great challenge there is a covid litigation group
1024
1:54:49 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]arted i'm on that group it has some very interesting conversations strategic
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1:54:55 --> 1:55:00
conversations and and you're right and john all of the major law firms get the bulk of their
1026
1:55:00 --> 1:55:05
income from big from the big business and from government the majority the big law firms all get
1027
1:55:05 --> 1:55:10
their income from there so they're not going to bite the hand that feeds them for the same reason
1028
1:55:10 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction]ors aren't going to bite the hand that pays them money for killing people in hospitals
1029
1:55:14 --> 1:55:20
so that's not all doctors uh charles nothing is all doctors nothing is all lawyers
1030
1:55:22 --> 1:55:30
a cinema so one comment though um with regard to what will happen if they take too many
1031
1:55:30 --> 1:55:37
if so i really want to write a book if you look at the intersection of law and economics especially
1032
1:55:37 --> 1:55:41
at a chicago school of law and economics you look at the work of like a richard epstein
1033
1:55:41 --> 1:55:48
and he has authored a number of books on torts and so forth what you'll find is that the
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1:55:48 --> 1:55:54
predo efficient outcome of leaving a more laissez faire standing doctrine is that cases would be
1035
1:55:54 --> 1:56:05
adjudicated and um you know mandatory authority would then exist more succinctly so that people
1036
1:56:05 --> 1:56:11
wouldn't bring cases you know a lawyer would would not bring a case against cell of law because
1037
1:56:11 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]ions against lawyers there are rules against that
1038
1:56:17 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction] answer and i don't i'm not knocking you at all i love you
1039
1:56:24 --> 1:56:30
i think you do great work really appreciate it love sujata uh gibson on stage two um you do i
1040
1:56:30 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]e and individuals but the standard answer from
1041
1:56:36 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]e who rise up through a career in a system they tend to not think outside that system and
1042
1:56:44 --> 1:56:51
i'm an engineer sorry i think with with uh an mba so i think of systems of economic balance
1043
1:56:52 --> 1:56:57
and the problem with the whole litigation system in the u.s i think the biggest problem we have is
1044
1:56:57 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]rine cases are not settled if you look at i just did it's um there's over a hundred
1045
1:57:04 --> 1:57:13
and something thousand excess cases in 2020 i think it was in a single year if you just take
1046
1:57:13 --> 1:57:19
less than half of those fewer than half of those at [privacy contact redaction] been
1047
1:57:19 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]ed cases that were taken but but instead most of them were tossed on standing
1048
1:57:24 --> 1:57:28
so if you can get call it precedent for people listening that that's the word they understand
1049
1:57:29 --> 1:57:36
um if you can get precedent on cases then the system comes to an efficient outcome very quickly
1050
1:57:36 --> 1:57:42
and you won't have all these frivolous things being brought it wouldn't happen so it's just
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1:57:42 --> 1:57:45
kind of changing the mindset i don't think i'll get there i don't think i'll change the mind of
1052
1:57:45 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]an on trying to get a case before the supreme court for standing though
1053
1:57:51 --> 1:57:57
if i can change one thing in our entire system at standing because that that is what has removed
1054
1:57:57 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]ess and grievances more than anything thanks for your time
1055
1:58:05 --> 1:58:11
yes thank you i i like i said it's a double-edged sword there are good things about the standing
1056
1:58:11 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]rine and there are bad things about the standing doctrine but um it would require
1057
1:58:17 --> 1:58:24
scotus overturning so it is uh definitely a not a quick fix
1058
1:58:25 --> 1:58:28
thank you thank you john thank you for being three questions we've got
1059
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25 minutes to go then we go that those those who have the time can go the tom rodman group katherine
1060
1:58:38 --> 1:58:43
hello gobby ann it's nice to see you again i think i did briefly speak with you at at the
1061
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coven litigation conference and it's kind of appropriate that i came right after john there
1062
1:58:48 --> 1:58:54
because uh as as charles mentioned there is a base camp group that warner had started about
1063
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a year and a half ago now and we did add all of the the lawyers from the conference to it and i
1064
1:59:01 --> 1:59:06
see uh i did invite you but i can resend the email to bring you into that and so that's kind of the
1065
1:59:06 --> 1:59:12
beginning of the the coven bar beyond the conference um i do get the emails i just need
1066
1:59:12 --> 1:59:20
another 15 hours in the day to read them so yes i'm already on there yes all right good
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base camp's a little funky there so i wasn't sure um but yeah hopefully we'll be getting to a better
1068
1:59:26 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]em soon so if you're getting the emails that's all good um and for everybody else here uh for the
1069
1:59:32 --> 1:59:38
videos uh from that conference they are finally out vsrf finally put them out a couple weeks ago
1070
1:59:38 --> 1:59:43
but they really didn't publicize it so i can drop the link in the chat for for people who
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1:59:43 --> 1:59:48
weren't there i think it's 200 for the entire conference obviously anybody who attended the
1072
1:59:48 --> 1:59:55
conference can get it for free um but yeah that's that's all i wanted to say so excellent could we
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put the chat put put the link in the chat please kathryn yep we'll do so bobby ann you don't need
1074
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to say anything on that we go to gary finkelstein now it's yeah no i mean that that was good
1075
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information um and yeah thank you for that i just it's i'm i'm on that i'm on that email
1076
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right you know already yes thank you kathryn yeah hi uh pleasure to meet you um so i have a quick
1077
2:00:25 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ion one comment the quick i i i was um the question really about
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the separation of powers and my concern is uh the possibility of packing the court and what happens
1079
2:00:42 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]op it um because it seems that those that want to uh not live by the
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2:00:52 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]itution will will will do anything to you know get what they want and my comment is i don't
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know if you've come across uh law any of lord chief justice assumptions lord jonathan assumption
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2:01:08 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]ice in the uk um for me a seminal moment i'll put a link in the chat or
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something for me a seminal moment uh obviously being was right at the time of the very first
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2:01:22 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]art of the pandemic uh he went public uh and you know smelling
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a fish because uh apart from being the lord chief justice he's also a very eminent historian and
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what he observed is a power grab and his observation from history is whenever you get an extreme power
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grab built on fear it's it's very slow slowly if ever given back and it leads to tyranny so one of
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it's amazing that we i mean we haven't fully come out come out of it but you know we were
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it's anyway i just wanted to i'll draw that to your attention because sounds like you haven't
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come across his work um but he's obviously uh he clue on the law on this side of the pond but if
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i don't mind if if you don't mind what's your thoughts on subverting the
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separation of powers uh through packing the court
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oh yeah it's it's a horrible it's a horrible idea um they threat to pack the supreme court is
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2:02:33 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]ic to try to um get the because it's currently six to three supposedly
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um conservative um but yeah i think it's i think it's a scare tactic so that um you know hey do
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do what i want you to do kind of a thing uh otherwise i'm going to pack the court and get
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2:02:59 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction] um but yeah i mean i definitely am against it i think that it's um
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2:03:08 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction] because they're going to pack it you know going the wrong
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2:03:14 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]itution um but even as it is with the six three split right now there have
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been cases uh decisions that they've put out that i'm just like this is this is against the
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2:03:29 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]itution you know where are you getting this from so um i i can't really say you know what
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2:03:36 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction] packing the court absolutely okay thank you gary um
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jonathan assumption was often referred to as the cleverest man in britain but now nobody talks
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2:03:50 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]ed kingdom yeah and also i think i'm right in saying um that he
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actually took the jam to go on holiday after he did that brilliant speech in september of 2020 i
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think it was he was coerced he was coerced well he's not clever enough when it when it comes to
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2:04:13 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]l so yes i know i've got friends who were unbelievable
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that even jonathan assumption with his understanding of history and having worked it all out um at least
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to a degree he then goes and takes the jab so steven i've got friends who had the jab because
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2:04:32 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]l that is called coercion they were coerced because otherwise they couldn't
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2:04:36 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]l that's a simple coercion yes but but jonathan assumption understood yeah i get that well
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he's not as he's clever at history and clever at law but he's not clever at at science and medicine
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2:04:48 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]ics and was not very clever of being a human being as a okay well i think he's great
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though he well his speech i think was the 31st of march or 31st of may on bbc radio 4 was a
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seminal moment from here that was the wake up moment he had done a he'd done a speech before
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that in i think september 2020 i can't remember i used to send it around and i ended up speaking
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to jonathan assumption yeah he didn't like my letter to the lancet though
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2:05:22 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]even for last questions and then we'll be finishing up
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thank you gary rose hi two quick things for bobby and then one for bobby and mark um
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why isn't anybody going after the governors who in my opinion did absolutely unconstitutional
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hospital liability exemption when all the hospitals had to do was use a who icd code of
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2:05:50 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]ice and manslaughter and number two for you bobby is i had mentioned
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on the previous one about the [privacy contact redaction] that the majority of people are
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not aware of because that reviews the informed consent you can't do coercion unduly influencing
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2:06:10 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction] for both of you is nobody's reviewing insurance policies
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i found an insurance policy for a public school back in 2017 and in it it read specifically
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2:06:26 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction] or indirect injury from emf exposure so i have a loaded three
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2:06:36 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction] informational but then the other two are questions
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and rose rose can you bring that to bobby an's attention because bobby an came from a real
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estate background she's doing this great work because rose raised this a couple of weeks ago
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bobby and and this read this [privacy contact redaction]ications rose can you
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2:06:59 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]ain that to bobby an yeah sure um bobby my background is i've been in health care for
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40 years so um nobody is aware of the [privacy contact redaction] which was signed in
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from the belmont report because of the tiskegee scandal and they very specifically outline
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the safety parameters for bio and emotional experimentation and it specifically goes over
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2:07:30 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction] to give added protection for the non-autonomous which
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2:07:36 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]en the elderly in hospitals people in prison etc and it's very clear verbiage about
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2:07:45 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction] comprehension there's so much wonderful language in there and nobody's
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2:07:53 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction] which was signed by nixon
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yeah so um to answer you what was the first part of your question i'll go in order oh the other
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is um why isn't anybody going after the governors who in my opinion they unconstitutionally just
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gave hospitals liability exemption that's that was ludicrous and unconstitutional yeah i'm not
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familiar with um if it came from the governors or if it came from the state legislatures
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2:08:28 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction] heard about um the protection and the liability and such
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but i i can't really speak to it because i don't know if it came from governors or the legislature
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two different branches of government nobody's addressing it at all because it was completely
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2:08:49 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction]itutional i don't know if anybody's addressing it i think yeah i have i have heard
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about it um in some context which i think maybe it was in florida maybe maybe people
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that i'm in contact with in florida were talking about it or something like this but um
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so i don't know there might be people addressing it but i i certainly can't speak to it because i am
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not familiar with the topic at all and the other part of your question was about the this federal
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2:09:23 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction] wanted to make you aware of its components and i can post the link
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again but the other part was for you and mark steel of is anybody reading insurance policies
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2:09:40 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]ually sent 5g information with that to like county
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commissioners and i said basically if you're allowing the rollout of 5g with the potential
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2:09:52 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]e healthcare policies yeah um again not i'm not familiar with
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that i don't know anybody doing that um and so i i can't speak to that topic so so okay well i
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2:10:10 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]eel that that's an approach that people need to really
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start hammering i think rose garry finkelstein who just spoke he is an actuary uh for insurance
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companies i think um i don't want to misrepresent is he still on i wonder and i'm still here i've
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been wondering garry is that right are you an actuary with insurance companies yeah although i
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don't look at property uh stuff i'm really just focused on mortality and yes okay so i don't
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2:10:44 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]or in the uk garry why why the actuaries and the insurance companies aren't
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noticing the uh the excess mortality or if they are they're not saying anything why aren't well
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i don't know they absolutely are so we are seeing excess mortality at the current time and
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2:11:02 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction] called the continuous mortality investigation bureau and
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they report i think it's every week every month or every week it's every week actually and yeah at
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the current time there is quite a significant excess mortality there's a bit of a debate going
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on about you know the causes and um there's multis considered to be multi-factorial uh you know this
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the interventions but um no also some things there's a bit of obviously there's controversy
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2:11:33 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]s i haven't heard any controversy though and so i so i knew
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that you're an actuary in an insurance company garry but you haven't been on recently as far as
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i know and i wanted to ask you why aren't the insurance companies who have a vested interest
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in as few deaths as possible in a given time making it more noise about the huge number of excess
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2:11:57 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]e i think it's something like 150 135 000 is it so
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2:12:05 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]e of things um it's a it's we are having excess mortality and it is going on uh like i
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and they do publish it and and it's being looked at very closely one thing about the uk life
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2:12:23 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]ry is it's very heavily weighted to what used to be compulsory purchase pension
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annuities so these are policies that pay out if you live not if you die and and if people die
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2:12:37 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]ed that insurance company actually makes money so the the uk industry
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is a little bit different from i mean there is a lot of term protection insurance which pays out
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short if you die there's quite a lot of that but the uk industry is very diversified
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2:12:53 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] a responsibility to society as well so if they have the they must be
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looking into all these figures analyzing them to death why don't we hear anything from the
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insurance companies well i mean you can go to the industry of actuaries website and you'll see what
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2:13:12 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] to say about it what i'm going to say is within the industry the insurance industry
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there is a the excess mortality is visible at the moment it was it hasn't always been excess
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mortality at all in all quarters through the through the pandemic just i mean through the
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2:13:31 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] three years no i've seen i've seen a graph and there've been rises in i've seen some of the
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graphs in this group but they're not correct um the the the why aren't you sharing the graphs
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with us because i remember you saying before you had any figures it would be very interesting to
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2:13:47 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]n't heard from you so i just i'm not criticized i just want
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wonder it's frustrating i'll be happy to put a link to this insure actually uh web website where
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you can see the excess mortality being being measured by the way that's the excess of mortality
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of insured lives it's a little bit different to the excess mortality of the whole population that
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2:14:09 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction]atistics i understand that um but it's you know the the
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mortality of insured lives across the whole industry is still very you know from memory i
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2:14:20 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction] to the time when you'd have the figures so i must have this so i
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as you know i was personally looking at these figures up until the end of 2021 and of course
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during 2020 as well 2020 the excess mortality had nothing to do with the vaccine
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at the end of 2021 there was no mortality in 2020 there was there was a very significant excess
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2:14:44 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction] half of the year oh in the first lockdown yes exactly but from a doctor's
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point of view i can think of many reasons other than um injections for that well there weren't
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2:14:56 --> 2:15:[privacy contact redaction]ions in 2020 but um what i'm going to say is that the the the controversy within
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2:15:03 --> 2:15:[privacy contact redaction]ry of the excess mortality we're seeing now is one of the principal causes and you know
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2:15:10 --> 2:15:[privacy contact redaction]s of lockdown is it due to the delayed treatment is it due to
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but gary i've never heard i've never didn't even know there was a debate going on there's no debates
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2:15:18 --> 2:15:[privacy contact redaction] oh well so there's a separate there is a debate within the within the industry
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for those that are in that field but i think one of the things that our guest has pointed out is
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right so will you come on and talk to us as a group about um the the figures
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yeah i'll i'll i'll have to plan plan it out with with you but yes i'll i'll come back to you on
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that yes okay can you email me we're gonna move we only got a few minutes left we've got janet
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rose are we finished metaphorically speaking with you before janet
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2:16:03 --> 2:16:[privacy contact redaction] yeah i was on me yes go ahead i'm good thanks thanks rose janet and then steven
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we're finished yeah thanks um yeah i just wanted to say that my understanding is that um health
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damage from emf from whether it's wireless routers or masks or phones or what have you
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2:16:25 --> 2:16:[privacy contact redaction]ually been insurable and my understanding is that for example if a
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2:16:31 --> 2:16:[privacy contact redaction] on his land if there is any health damage from that mast in local people
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2:16:41 --> 2:16:[privacy contact redaction]ual um the companies who supply the masks and who
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transmit this wireless radiation they're not uh then it's not insured so um i think you know that
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might be worth looking at and i think that that covers things like 3g 4g as well as 5g
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yeah and janet um do you think there's a what do you understand so janet's a medical doctor bobby
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2:17:09 --> 2:17:[privacy contact redaction] wonder whether janet uh what do you think about the pcr what mark steele says
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about the pcr uh possibility of uh essentially injecting people to get this uh structure in so
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that they can attack human beings with uh 5g is that right is that they're not they're not
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5g is that right is that they were they were talking about um these little black worms in the pcr
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swabs weren't they in [privacy contact redaction]e were having a look at them and same thing in the masks as well
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and i don't know what the structures were but i mean certainly people were finding anomalous
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2:17:48 --> 2:17:[privacy contact redaction]ures within those and you know you have to wonder oh so it's not just the pcr tests the masks
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as well yes now you mentioned it i remember that yeah yeah wow wow
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yeah yeah all right thank you thank you janet thank you janet bobby and great great work steven
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2:18:10 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]ions before we let bobby and go through it's so kind of you to give us two and
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a half hours we know how busy you are but it gives an opportunity for people to to craft their
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thinking and i again reiterate we need to and and the bus raise wind driving and bobby ann as well
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2:18:26 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]e about their rights so then they'll stand up for them because a lot of
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2:18:31 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]n't any bobby and i think that's so so crucial secondly we wanted those of
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2:18:37 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]e to donate to bobby ann's work go to the websites cox lawyers
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2:18:44 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction] yeah i'm gonna put it in the i'll put it here in the chat it's my website is cox lawyers
1241
2:18:52 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]e want more information about the quarantine lawsuit the citizens group uniting
1242
2:18:59 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction]ate put up a website specifically about the case so i'll put that here in the chat as well
1243
2:19:07 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction]ease put that in there all right so steven last last one let bobby and put that
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2:19:13 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction]ions and we'll go across to tom rodman for those who can
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2:19:24 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction] something because i can oh yeah sorry i thought you were
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2:19:29 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction] you finished yeah no i was just going to say if anybody wants more information
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to uh yeah to check in the chat i'm putting the links in there but uh thank you for having me on
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i appreciate it and um yeah it's it's always great to see so many people fighting for our rights
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around the world so everybody keep up the good fight so bobby and i hope it hasn't been too
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horrible an experience but we we were on your side even though it may not have seemed like that to you
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um of course and i would like to congratulate you on behalf of the group um for your brilliant work
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2:20:07 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction]ate in america to do it than new york state yeah i know it's it's quite uh it's
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quite a challenge but we we beat them once so we will we will keep trying to beat them again
1254
2:20:22 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction] ask you bobby and um what do you think it was in your childhood or your upbringing
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which brought you to this point so you saw something that no other lawyer in the world saw
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2:20:34 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction] the new york city new york state governor and won it um
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2:20:41 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction]itutional issue and that's just brilliant and i don't know whether you fully realized
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um so you're rather special from my point of view uh when do you what was it in your childhood or
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in your upbringing which led you to this place of special responsibility if you like yeah uh you know
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2:21:04 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction]ory uh i did an interview with epoch times um last november
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uh about it if anybody wants to get here you know the nitty-gritty details that that interview on
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epoch times is on my website under my media page um on cox lawyers.com but um in short basically i
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you know i had when i learned about that regulation the quarantine regulation i had reached out to many
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colleagues um and i said to them you know you need to read this regulation this is horrific
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2:21:42 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction] to strike this down
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2:21:45 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction]itutional law it was not civil rights i had never filed a
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civil rights lawsuit in my life um so nobody would step up nobody would take the case nobody
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would come on the case with me um well yeah and anybody noticed it apart from you oh yeah other
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2:22:04 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction] about it um but they didn't want to you know they didn't want to work
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for free uh they didn't think my theory was was good you know um they just weren't interested i
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reached out to organizations you know these uh civil rights organizations um brought it to their
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attention they weren't interested in getting involved uh most of them didn't even respond
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2:22:33 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction]ed do you think with hindsight bobby and i think of many of the
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traditional so-called traditional civil rights organizations um are not what people think they
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are i think they've proven themselves to be exactly the complete opposite of the exact opposite yeah
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controlled opposition international is a good example because yeah because i and i wrote a
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2:22:59 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]ack about it uh a month or so ago you know where aware have the civil rights organizations
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gone right because because they're not here and they wouldn't even not only were they not involved
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in the case they wouldn't even write an amicus brief to support my case you know and and now
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that she's appealing they're still not writing an amicus brief to to support my case so um i just
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you know i i saw something and again this was after two full years of complete government
1282
2:23:32 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]ete tyranny in new york state right um and seeing everybody around
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me suffer and seeing my clients suffer and it was all at the government expense it was all because
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of what the government was doing to everybody it was whether it was through schools or through the
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2:23:51 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]ion moratorium or through the masking or through the social distancing it was
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2:23:56 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction]ete breach of of the constitution on multiple levels and then when
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2:24:03 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction] there's no way i'm gonna let them get away with this so nobody wanted to
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do it i did it myself so wow yes brilliant great worker well okay thank you thank you we honor you
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bobby ann thank you for being with us everybody um mainstream media we need media attention you
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got you got a clap of hands here from gary fink here bobby anne can i just ask a bobby anne one
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2:24:30 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction]ion charles she she so bobby anne i'm in touch with daniel estrelin who has a platform of
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2:24:38 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction]e would you like to be interviewed for the spanish speaking world
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oh yes that would be wonderful definitely we have to bring more people into the fold absolutely
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great idea yeah great idea so i'll arrange that with daniel estrelin and if i seem to have
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2:24:53 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction] would you mind reminding me just because i'm trying to remember all this
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stuff and so difficult yes i i will definitely reach out to you um and ask you to connect me
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because i think the spanish speaking world yes we we need to reach all all societies all over the
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place because this is yes you know this is step up and do something now or you're gonna have no
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rights that's it gone especially yes exactly thank you so much thank you yes everybody thank
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you for the links um wonderful i'll keep the chat open for a minute or so bobby ann will send i'll
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2:25:29 --> 2:25:[privacy contact redaction] you saved your chat there's some lots of yeah there's
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2:25:36 --> 2:25:[privacy contact redaction] i see carlos was live streaming thank you carlos
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2:25:40 --> 2:25:[privacy contact redaction]ream on his facebook i see it very good yeah
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very good that sounds a spanish name to me anyway i'll put you in touch with daniel estrelin
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and uh he's such a clever guy knows exactly what's going on excellent thank you so much
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he'd be very interested to meet a lawyer who's been fighting for the constitution of new york
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state and america of course oh then yes absolutely i would like the introduction
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bobby ann before you go everybody while we're waiting for the last comments in the chat
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uh i'm going to tell you a story about a new york judge hearing a case and he called the
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2:26:27 --> 2:26:[privacy contact redaction]aintiff and the defendant up to the bench as they often do in u.s court cases
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2:26:32 --> 2:26:[privacy contact redaction]ralia and he said to the plaintiff's lawyer uh you have given me five
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2:26:40 --> 2:26:[privacy contact redaction]ed dollars to decide this case in your client's favor you turn to defense counsel you've
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given me a thousand dollars to decide the case in your client's favor i'm going to give you back
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2:26:51 --> 2:26:[privacy contact redaction]ed dollars to the defendant's counsel i'm going to decide the case on its merits so
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uh
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2:27:01 --> 2:27:[privacy contact redaction]even i'll send the chance to tom rodman is about you know
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do you sorry atrass do you know carlos bobby ann yes oh you do okay well if he wants to come along
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2:27:16 --> 2:27:[privacy contact redaction]reamers every week he's welcome to do that and we'll get you in the loop of the bobby
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ann interview all right everybody thank you so much thanks everybody thank you
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uh charles we've got um what's his name yorker and norden gourd on tuesday wonderful the swedish
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kind brilliant one and the thing we want to learn from him is how do we handle this
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bio hose of information that's what i'm really interested in tom rodman had some exactly so
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we're learning on this good okay excellent thanks steven it's worse than medical school
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yeah bye carlos hey hold on a second and now i can i put my microphone charge i don't know how you
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found me i know bobby i did many interviews with her and i take the risk to to put it in
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2:28:14 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction] 380 okay i'm here yeah very good 380 50 000 followers has been
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2:28:22 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction]ephen please let me know because i am in touch with the
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2:28:29 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction]y i am from argentina so since we won the world cup we can do anything
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2:28:35 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction]e who can do anything who believe that carlos i put steven's i've sent
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2:28:42 --> 2:28:[privacy contact redaction]even's email address in in the chat for you charlie how how did you find me you have been
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sending me this invitation for many months how did you find me you don't even know don't even
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know okay we don't even remember we don't even remember someone must have recommended you it
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2:29:01 --> 2:29:[privacy contact redaction] been bobby and i don't know maybe it's on callis what's what's your email address
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uh okay i'll type it here for for everyone uh okay let me see the one that you i am receiving
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this invitation from you yeah from you from your email yeah and two two
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uh okay i got it i put it here yeah so how many meetings have you been to carlos this is the first
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one because i usually i'm playing beach volleyball i live next to the beach in los angeles so
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but i tried to cram on another one and then i couldn't get here because there were too many
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2:29:43 --> 2:29:[privacy contact redaction] try to come to the one on tuesday because we've got the the swedish expert
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on um world economic forum and bilderberg group and all the rest of them on um and he's an expert
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he's been working on his own and i've managed to persuade him to speak to us because he uh
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uh well he wanted he got so many things to do in scandinavia and i said well nobody's gonna
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2:30:07 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction] he came on he's coming on to on uh tuesday okay i will check
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2:30:14 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction]erday that information is there but thank you so much
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2:30:22 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction]s to help thank you very much how many people are watching on your
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facebook um well let me tell you right now what happened is my three pages have been restricted
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2:30:36 --> 2:30:[privacy contact redaction] a good okay let me tell you right now a good following uh i tell you right now
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so i do in my three pages one has 450 views the other 500 the other 600 but in a in a few in a
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2:30:53 --> 2:31:[privacy contact redaction] two three four thousand each one excellent oh very good yeah so well done carlos
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we're gonna go see you next time and and you've got steven's email vice versa and uh we'll we will
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2:31:08 --> 2:31:[privacy contact redaction]ream whenever i can beautiful thank you bless us bye
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2:31:14 --> 2:31:[privacy contact redaction]even thanks everybody
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