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So everybody welcome to today's meeting of Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International.
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This group was founded over four years ago by Stephen Foster, a British trained medical
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And we've just been talking about the lack of truth in the mainstream media, in particular
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in the context of the knife attack by two blacks on a train bound for King's Cross
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in London.
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ethics, justice, freedom and health in the face of global challenges.
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This time we remember two unlawfully incarcerated lawyers, Rainer Formick and Arno van Kessel,
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both of them fighting for their clients and both of them fighting for what we're fighting
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for.
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They call on the governments of Netherlands and Germany to release those two lawyers immediately.
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The show notes contain details of how to find out about Rainer Formick and there's a link
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I'm Charles Kerb, your moderator.
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Red is the colour of passion that's to remind you to only do things that you're passionate
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about.
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For 20 years I was a lawyer and 32 years ago I shifted gears.
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and medical failures.
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As John Rappaport has researched, medical failures are the number one cause of death
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now in the USA.
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I'm also chief executive of an industrial hemp company and hemp is going to be one of
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This group is a blend of professional, of all sorts of professions from all around the
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world.
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Many, once viewed vaccines as benign, now many wear the badge of passionate anti-vaxxers
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with pride.
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But now it's a badge of honour to be called an anti-vaxxer and please wear it proudly.
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We're in the thick of a global struggle.
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We call it World War III and medical and scientific battles are only amongst two of the 12 battlefronts.
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Another is the spiritual war that we are in.
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We're five and a half years into this fight.
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We've got at least another two years to go so stay healthy, stay strong, be up for the
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fight and never say to yourself that you're tired.
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And we've got here, we've got here some amazing warriors for truth and ethics and justice.
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Stay in the fight everybody.
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We've got lots of work to do.
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We'll hear today from our guest presenter again, Dr. Jerome Corsi followed by Q&A.
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If something offends you, own it.
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truth.
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We choose love over fear.
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Fear binds and sickens.
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It squashes you.
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It depresses you.
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Love liberates, heals, inspires and expands you.
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These twice weekly gatherings are far from mere talk.
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medical crimes on social media, rallying behind the demand of medical truth now crafted by
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John Rappapour.
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So we're thrilled to welcome our guest presenter again, Jerome Corsi.
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I don't have one, he can tell us about himself in whatever way he wants to.
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He has presented to us some five times previously and he's right at the epicentre of what's
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happening in America.
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He's an author of some 35 books or 32 or 27 ridiculous number of books.
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Well done, Jerome.
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And thank you again, Stephen Frost, for creating this group.
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Jerome, we are in your hands and everybody for just coming on now.
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Stephen Hatfield, there's been a, there's been a stuff happened.
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Jerome, we're in your hands.
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Well thank you.
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It's good to be back with everybody here and I'm going to, it's kind of impromptu, but
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And I think we should cover a lot of topics.
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I'll leave a good amount of time for questions so we can have an active discussion of these
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issues.
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But there's a few things I want to cover that I think are highlight pretty much new information,
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I've written two articles in American Thinker recently, one on October 13th, and I'm going
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to put that in chat so everybody can see the article.
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And then I'm going to comment on it.
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So here we go in chat and the article is here.
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So that's the article.
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You can pick it up and look at it as I discuss it.
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The point I'm making in this article is that if you take a look at what's happened in the
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relationship with Israel and Trump has managed to get this really historic ceasefire in Gaza.
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Well it was not accidental this happened.
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And it was, it took some really delicate behind the scenes negotiations and pressure on Netanyahu
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to get this to the point where it's at.
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So President Trump in recent weeks has been pressured to back off support from Israel,
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largely because of an incident on September 9th, 2025, when US military spotted Israeli
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And unsure of the mission, US military intelligence saw clarification from the Israeli government.
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And by the time Israel responded, missiles were already in the air taking out Hamas leaders
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attending a meeting in the Qatari capital of Doha.
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Okay, now the problem with this was that Netanyahu didn't bother to clear this with Trump first.
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because it came as the US was waiting for Hamas to respond to President Trump's proposal
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for peace in Gaza.
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And the Axios, whom I don't normally trust very much, but they were doing accurate reporting
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here, especially because it was anti-Trump and anti-Netanyahu, Axios said that Hamas
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officials were meeting to discuss the Trump proposal and that Qatar was actually the seventh
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Okay so now Axios later changed its reporting to say Netanyahu had in fact spoken with Trump
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before the attack.
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But again, I'll go with the original story because my information was that Trump was
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furious with this.
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The BBC reported that Netanyahu had not bothered to clear the strike in advance with Trump
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and the Trump called the Israeli air attack unfortunate, saying killing the Hamas leaders
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does not advance the goals of either Israel or America.
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Clearly both Netanyahu and Trump do not want Hamas returning to power in the Gaza, but
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they also, Trump does not want, did not want the violence in the Middle East expanded when
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he was making a major effort to get Hamas to agree to return the hostages and stop fighting.
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So on September 9th, Trump was flanked by Vice President Vance and Secretary of Defense
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He said, I'm not thrilled by the whole situation.
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And then finally, ABC added to this comments White House press secretary, Caroline Levitt
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made the following comments in the Brady briefing room in the White House.
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This morning, the Trump administration was notified by the United States military that
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as Israel was attacking Hamas, which very unfortunate was located in the section of
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Doha, the capital of Qatar, unilaterally bombing inside Qatar, a sovereign nation,
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to broker peace and does not, this does not advance America's goals.
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efforts we've had through going back to the George W Bush administration in the Middle
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Now, the next things that happened, by the way, the information I have is that around
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the time when Trump was so upset with with Netanyahu, he pulled in a lot of conservative
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leaders, including Charlie Kirk and including Tucker Carlson.
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And he said basically that he wanted them to back off support for his for Israel.
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They did not want them to be cheerleading Israel.
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because Candace Owens was criticizing Charlie Kirk for backing off of Israel when Charlie
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Kirk's father had been one of the most vocal Christian Zionists favoring Israel for decades.
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And Charlie Kirk himself was a big supporter of Israel.
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And then you see that we had Tucker Carlson in this interview with Fuentes back off Israel.
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And that developed into a controversy with the Heritage Foundation because the Heritage
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Foundation has refused to disavow Tucker Carlson for attacking Charlie Kirk and others over
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this whole issue of support for Israel.
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But what has not been reported is that this started with Trump and his unhappiness with
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Netanyahu.
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And Trump wanted to pull to communicate to Netanyahu that this was not going to be tolerated.
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And if Netanyahu wanted to continue down this path, he was going to lose a lot of American
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support.
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Hamas in the Gaza.
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So on September 17, 2005, Saudi Arabia signed a mutual defense pact with Pakistan that could
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was clear.
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Israel better think twice about attacking Muslim nations in the Middle East without
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And attending the meeting in the White House was Charlie Kirk, Patrick Ben-David, and
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Megyn Kelly, all of whom had been strong supporters of Israel.
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And Trump was saying, back off Israel.
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OK, so October 3, Hamas agreed to participate in the Gaza peace talks that Trump engineered.
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And Trump called Netanyahu to celebrate the good news.
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But Netanyahu told Trump that Hamas's agreement was nothing to celebrate.
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It didn't mean anything.
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Trump said, I don't know why you're always so negative.
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This is a win.
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Take it.
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Now, Netanyahu clearly wants to destroy Hamas in the Gaza and to eliminate any vestiges
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of Hamas.
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other Muslims who had tried to take control of Gaza in the vacuum left with Hamas had
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to go underground.
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OK, so basically, Trump has really gotten, you know, and again, Trump has denied this
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report again about saying that Netanyahu is always so negative.
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They're saying that Axios is just trying to fan the flames here.
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But my intelligence is that all this is accurate.
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Trump was livid with Netanyahu.
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And so basically, what I what I analyzed here and I wanted to communicate it to Netanyahu
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that there's really only one course of action open to Netanyahu.
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And that is he's got to clear everything that he does in the Middle East with Trump.
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Trump will take Netanyahu's phone calls 24 by 7 basis.
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And so Netanyahu's got to invoke the wisdom of Solomon here to avoid taking action that
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Now I don't believe that Hamas is going to go quietly into the night, but I do think
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it's been severely destabilized and and really damaged as a fighting force.
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And also Trump is now in a position where he's gotten attack on a successful attack
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on Iran, which has at least set back its nuclear program significantly.
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And Lebanon has been has also been set back by Israel.
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the earth.
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Now Trump did not get a Pulitzer Prize and that's no surprise given the leftist nature
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of the Pulitzer Commission or committee.
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But Netanyahu has got to take the path here of letting the ceasefire work if possible.
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Netanyahu has been in power for three decades in Israel.
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He's the longest serving prime minister.
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He's held the office three times.
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He's obviously a patriot and a national hero.
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But if he continues on the path of irritating Trump, he's not going to benefit the cause
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of Israel.
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And I think it's time for Netanyahu to to begin declaring a victory and saying that
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he will retire at this point and bring in new leadership within Israel that can take
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a new approach.
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Where Trump is going is Trump wants to invoke the Abraham Accords and he wants to have the
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he's got Wittkopf and Kushner who originally negotiated the Abraham Accords in the first
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He's going to try to get the nations in the Middle East to lay down their cause to destroy
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Israel and begin working with Israel because Trump's major theme is going to be peace through
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prosperity and Israel can bring prosperity to the Middle East simply by cultivating the
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All would need would be water and nutrients and the deserts in the Middle East would produce
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So if Trump can Trump's also got an issue and that if he goes down the path of criticizing
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Netanyahu, this Hamas loving mainstream media will happily jump on the bandwagon of destroying
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Israel's image of the minds of the 2026 midterm voters.
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Certainly the university crowd will rejoice at ingravitas to the mainstream media anti-Israel
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genocide narratives.
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OK, so Netanyahu, after I wrote this article, Netanyahu did begin working with Trump and
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And what I was warning Netanyahu trying to get the out there was that Hamas was going
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to do a series of attacks to try to provoke a start of the war again, because Hamas can
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only succeed if there's chaos and violence.
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And if it goes down the path of peace through prosperity, Hamas will not have much of a
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And if Israel continues down the path that Trump is leading, that I think there's a
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which would, I think, want to achieve peace in the Gaza and also turn to the West Bank
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to see if they could diminish Hamas's control over the West Bank.
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But again, Netanyahu cannot go to war on the West Bank without Trump's approval.
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So it's got to be dealt with very carefully.
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My feeling is that Trump has this situation pretty well in hand, although I don't rule
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out the possibility of another kind of existential threat attack that Hamas might launch, which
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would again be so shocking that the world would demand reprisal and again side with
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Hamas is really on the edge right now.
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And the future of Hamas depends upon violence, whereas the future for Trump and Netanyahu
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I'd also want to emphasize that from an investment banking perspective, and increasingly I've
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since 2016.
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the VA and with HUD to create a series of centers for the military to retire into, to
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transition into civilian life, together with ample medical care, telemedicine, to deal
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life, homelessness, suicide, etc.
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And so I'm sponsoring now and funding different things that will go into that direction.
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So that's another book we've had coming out of this, published by Post Hill Press.
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And I found her by one of the presentations she gave to this group.
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And her whole thesis of her book is that, you know, basically we're dealing with a Stockholm
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at social control, which is similar to the way that narcissists try to capture and manipulate
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that basically she lays out a whole process of how narcissism works, which is, you know,
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Perceived life threat.
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You know, you can't get out of the relationship or you'll suffer tremendously if you break
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the relationship or you're all going to die if you don't do what the government says.
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Perceived inability to escape.
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Don't know how to get out of the relationship, so you don't know how to avoid being vaxxed.
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level or on a social level.
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It's quite a good book.
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And I hope she gets to do interviews and gets the publicity she needs to make it read to
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the extent it deserves to be read.
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Okay, so I want to shift down to Ukraine.
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I wrote another article on Ukraine, which I want to focus on here that I'll put it in
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chat as well.
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God's Five Stones.
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I'll put it in chat.
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We're doing a new round of donations.
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I'll comment on that too.
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Here's the article on Ukraine that I want to talk about next.
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And then I'll put in here the God's Five Stones.
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We're going to engage in an active round of seeking more donations because there are
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significant developments coming on in the voter integrity issue, which I'll talk about
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as well.
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But...
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Jerome, was Meredith happy with the book?
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Yeah, very happy.
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It's a very good captivating read.
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And it's very insightful.
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Do you think narcissism is more common than most people appreciate?
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Yes, I think narcissism is in some ways the bane of our current social environment.
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We've lost the ability to have really true relationships that are founded upon mutual
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I think feminism and a lot of other social movements have driven women into a feeling
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of whether their lives were fulfilled enough by a marriage.
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Certainly, I've gone through it in my situation.
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And long-term marriages being broken up by the women is an unusual phenomenon.
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Typically, marriages were broken up by men having affairs, not by women having affairs.
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And I think it has a lot to do with the narcissism that is at the core of a lot of relationships
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anymore.
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and being a mother to being a profession of dignity, women are instructed that if they're
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My daughter, for instance...
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Even if they're doing the most boring jobs, Jerome, it's just ridiculous.
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Well my daughter wants to be a mother and that's her goal.
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And I'm 100% in support of that.
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She'll have three babies under two.
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I'm thrilled.
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Does she know what's causing it?
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Yeah, I think she's got a good handle on it.
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I think she's got that one down, Charles.
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But they want a big family and I think they're going to have a big family.
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And I'm very much in support of it.
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At any rate, Meredith Miller's book, I think, is very important as it does emphasize this
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theme of narcissism.
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Yeah, which is a very difficult subject.
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And I think it's actually much more common than we've realized because the people who
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So yeah, I think she first she writes, I'll just read a paragraph or two.
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She writes, social engineering and indoctrination roles from generation to generation.
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The underlying patterns are the same.
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While the messaging and cultural context shift, much like we've seen in the plandemics and
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wars, it's all the same playbook, really reality distortion, psychological and spiritual torture,
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The boon of American cars, advertising, music and consumer culture was engineered to reprogram
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It was surely a lot easier to focus on the enticing life of convenience and distraction
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So she goes on to combine the end of World War II and manipulation there, the lying of
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the government with how narcissism works as a psychological phenomenon and how we all
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It's quite brilliant.
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And I think she's a genius.
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I noticed that.
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And I think I introduced you to her, Jerome.
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Yes, you did.
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You did.
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And as I talked to her, I really decided I was concerned the book might not get as much
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attention as it deserves.
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I thought if we brought it out, we could get it more attention.
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But I'm wanting to publish more books out of this group and we will continue to do so.
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Excellent, Jerome.
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OK, now I think your analysis is, you know, what you were talking about earlier was very
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nuanced.
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And we need nuance.
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you know, whether something's either true or not true.
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It's often a mixture and it's nuanced and people don't understand the nuance.
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They don't want to see it because it means they've got to take responsibility to understand
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all the things that need to be taken into account.
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Well, as many as possible as far as human beings are capable.
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Well, I think that's a very good observation.
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And I think the reality is that life is complicated.
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And the truth in some of these relationships and what Meredith points out in her book is
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that when you finally see the truth of a narcissistic relationship or the manipulation by the government
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and she goes on to, you know, how many lies the government is told in the in the effort
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to maintain social control and how polarized we've gotten as a result.
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And I'll get to that here in a couple of minutes as well.
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But let's cover some developments in Ukraine because I think there's some things that have
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OK, so the last couple of weeks, we've seen that Trump has made another effort to solve
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this war in Ukraine.
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And he had a meeting with Zelensky in the White House and a conversation with Putin
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on the phone.
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And Putin and Trump were going to meet in Budapest.
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But after Trump had a meeting between Lavrov, who is the foreign minister of Russia and
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Rubio, preliminary to that summit, Trump called it off.
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And so there's no point to it.
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Now there's a history here, too.
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months, both in the Middle East and with Ukraine.
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They were pivotal months for setting up, I believe, the future of both areas for many
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years.
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OK, so in the Middle East now we've gotten the first step of a very fragile ceasefire,
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but one that I think Trump is going to do everything possible to persist, have it persist.
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So let's now deal with Ukraine.
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Assembly gathering, a private meeting, Trump suggested that Ukraine could win back all
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the territory seized by Russia, which was an apparent reversal of Trump's policy from
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the beginning, when Trump had said that Russia's gains would not be returned to Ukraine.
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So less than a week later, on September 29th, Vice President Vance was the first to suggest
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Tomahawk missiles to defend the country against Russian forces.
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Now Tomahawk missiles are cruise missiles, which can be nuclear armed, and they are long-range.
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Now on the same day, September 29th, General Keith Kellogg, who is the US Special Envoy
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on Ukraine, and clearly I've been a warmonger from the beginning, said that Trump authorized
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buy the Tomahawks and then give them, broker them to Ukraine, with the understanding that
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Now that would transform the Ukraine war from a proxy war between Russia and Ukraine
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because Russia has changed its nuclear and military policies, saying that if a nation
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Now that Vance and Kellogg on the same day said the same kind of message that suggests
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that we're going to attack Russia and take back the territory, and therefore Russia will
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The problem is that I'm pretty well convinced that Putin has decided that he can win a war
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And I believe that the earthquake that was set off in September, I believe in September,
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that caused a huge tsunami in the Pacific Ocean was a turbulence weapon that Russia
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indefinitely in a satellite position to be used, called down and used whenever Russia
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wanted it to be put into an attack position.
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So this could create a nuclear cruise missile belt around the globe that Russia could command,
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All right, so now on October 13th, and in response to statements from Trump and others
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nuclear war, just as we were when at the end of the Biden administration, Biden prevented
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these attack missiles, US attack missiles to Ukraine, and they were fired into Russia
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with our troops firing them and our guidance system.
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That's what caused Russia to change their nuclear policies.
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So on the day before Trump met with Zelensky on October 17th, he and Trump and Putin had
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a phone call, and that's when they said they would meet in Budapest, Hungary, the next
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Donetsk is a region in the Donbas, which is one of these eastern provinces that are largely
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Russian speaking, and Putin does not have control over this Donetsk region because there's
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through those defenses because it's really one of the last lines of defense before Putin
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could go into Kiev.
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meeting with Trump, and Trump is not going to give Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, and
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swearing I'm told.
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And Zelensky did not get what he wanted.
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any territory and they wanted Ukraine to cede more territory that Russia had not yet gotten
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in this Donbas region where it's Donetsk.
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Now I think in general, Kellogg has been parked because after Trump came out yesterday,
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our Department of War said it was authorized that if Trump decided to, the Department of War
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had no problem with Trump giving Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine, but that decision was Trump's.
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And Trump has not made that decision and doesn't appear ready to make that decision.
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Now Trump has said that the solution here is for Putin just to stop fighting ceasefire
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where they are, and then they can negotiate how to settle the war with some territorial swapping
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back and forth.
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But if Putin is not ready to do that, Trump has got to realize that Putin is signaling that he
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thinks he can win this war.
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And so I'm coming to a number of conclusions that number one, we must not provide Tomahawk
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missiles to Ukraine because it would put us to the verge of World War III and Trump has got to
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realize that.
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going to impose our policies into the war.
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We're going to withdraw more and put more onto the Europeans to support this war if they
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wanted to.
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So what I wrote is that Trump could force an end game by refusing to fund Ukraine with supply
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advanced weapons, cutting back the funding and cutting funding to NATO.
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Without US dollars, this war can't continue.
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introducing that type of thinking into what's really a centuries long conflict between Russia
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and Ukraine over this Donbass region, which happens to be very a strong industrial region of
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Ukraine, one that's been coveted for centuries by both Ukraine and Russia.
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But the point is, I'm coming to several conclusions about Ukraine.
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Number one is Putin is not going to be dislodged from the territory he occupies in Ukraine with
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other nuclear war.
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We're not going to supply advanced weaponry to Zelensky without a nuclear war.
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And right now, the desertion rates of the Ukrainian army at record highs.
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And Zelensky is losing his battle to keep troops in the field to fight Russia.
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Russia has not used weaponry Russia has.
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Russia has been fighting the kind of limited conventional war that we fought in Vietnam.
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And it didn't do very well for us in Vietnam, but we didn't have an enemy, don't have an
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enemy like Ho Chi Minh that's a guerrilla warfare in Ukraine.
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This is really a conventional warfare with advanced weaponry.
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Russia even economically is not going to do well under sanctions, with sanctions on oil.
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The BRICS nations are yet formative.
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China is yet in marginal economic conditions with, and Europe is way over leveraged on
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So I consider that Europe could be at the verge of an economic crash, especially when
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plants.
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the EU.
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And Europe is being overrun now with Muslims who are making it clear they have no intention
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of assimilating.
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They want to impose Sharia law in countries like Great Britain.
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So I think that Trump is going to, the Ukraine wars turned out to be a lot more difficult
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to resolve than Trump thought it would be because Putin I think senses that he's got
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the upper hand.
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Putin's won the war.
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it.
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And that was as a result of Hillary Clinton and her having her private email server while
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Bill Clinton was running the Clinton Foundation out of office and they were using it for personal
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and took money from going back to 2013.
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The Maidan rebellion, the State Department with the color revolution, Soros, pushing
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0:45:05 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]ates putting a bio weapons lab in the border with Russia.
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And so therefore I think Zelensky is not about, Zelensky is going to have to realize that
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he's lost the war and by his increasing, Trump's increasing disillusionment with Zelensky that
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shouting match as you remember when Zelensky misbehaved in the Oval Office and tried to
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say that Trump had to give a guarantee, a security guarantee to Ukraine as a condition
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for peace.
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All of these things I think are falling away.
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either side wants to escalate it at this moment.
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And Trump I think realized that but only after Kellogg had his day in the sun and I hope
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Kellogg is parked permanently because Kellogg like others that we've seen and John Bolton
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to break this cycle of perpetual war, which only benefits the bankers and the New World
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Order and all the other forces that want to control humanity and a totalitarian future
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Okay, now I want to cover a couple more subjects quickly and then I think we can save a good
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0:46:38 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]ions and discussions but I think these are areas that are worth
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covering.
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0:46:46 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction] of all, Mondami looks like he is positioned to win the mayoral race in New York and behind
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0:46:53 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]s of America.
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Now this is a group that are really determined to destroy America.
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They are, Obama was a Democratic Socialist of America, they're really a communist, neo-Marxist
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0:47:12 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction] group and the book I wrote on the truth about neo-Marxism, cultural Maoism
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and anarchy makes it clear that groups like Democratic Socialists of America are going
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into the anarchy phase of their movement.
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0:47:27 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]roy the empire, that's what the Democratic Socialists of America
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0:47:33 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ates, the empire, to replace a market economy with a state controlled Marxism,
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defund the police using funds for DEI programs, this diversity, equity and inclusion which
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is a race-based preference, supporting terrorist groups and terrorist entities, Amos Hezbollah,
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generalizing anti-Semitism and supporting violent extremist groups, promoting foreign
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policies that align with authoritarian regimes such as China, Russia and Iran, that's what
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The funding for them comes from overseas to a large extent, we're realizing that China,
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Soros, others are pouring money into our banking system which has become a sieve for money
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0:48:34 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] around Mondami includes a large number of committed Marxists who are
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all being targeted now by the Trump administration as is Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization.
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If Mondami does win, he could face incarceration by Trump and indictment for not cooperating
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to deport illegal immigrants with Tom Homan and his ICE efforts.
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We're realizing that we have had a communist movement that has taken over the Democratic
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Party. The Democratic Party has now moved into being a treasonous anti-American policy
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more aligned with the DSA than with the American public, supporting things such as the Venezuelan
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gangs. The Democrats don't want us attacking Venezuela or attacking drug running in Venezuela,
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0:49:44 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] illegal immigrants vote, they want to support the MS-13 and other gangs
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in El Salvador, they want to open the jails so criminals can go out of the jails and they
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can fill the jails with their ideological enemies, aging Catholics who like the Latin
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mass. This ideological warfare is becoming more intense. God's Five Stones, we've expanded
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our breach to go into, take a look at the website, you can see that the people who are
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2014, get 100,000 unaccompanied minors to come across the border, were brought into
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0:50:44 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ing. The deal was made with the Sinaloa drug cartels to let
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0:50:52 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ug cartel money, put cocaine in the United States including an inland network
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0:50:59 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ributors and fend all with China. Obama was making deals with China that were anti-American,
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0:51:07 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] as he was under the control of Putin, the real operative whom Putin controlled was
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Obama, not Trump. The situation in terms of how all this will affect the country, the
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world, the world will unfold with the election. First of all, ActBlue, the point I want to
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make is that I've got reports from the Justice Department that banks like TD Banks for as
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many as six years filed no money laundering reports really at all and they transacted
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0:51:41 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] $10 trillion of business in that time, which could include money coming from China
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and other sources from foreign sources, contributing into our campaigns and going into the NGOs.
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So the money that came in from opening the border went into the banks and got funneled
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to NGOs like Antifa and Black Lives Matters through ActBlue, whereas the leaders of ActBlue
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would engage in mortgage fraud, they would buy a house for a million dollars in Palo
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Tua, California and get $30 million in mortgage loans from banks. Those really weren't mortgage
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loans, they were just money laundering, getting it out and booking it as a mortgage loan to
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0:52:33 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]er where the Democratic Party is now being supported by the child
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0:52:39 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ing, by drugs and fentanyl as its source of support. The
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suicide. So this has gone on since 1917 when things I've written about in that book on
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the truth about neo-Marxism culture, Maoism and anarchy. This is a Russian playbook for
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0:53:13 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ates that goes back to the early days of the Russian Revolution
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and authors who were writing about and warning the United States about these tactics of destabilizing
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0:53:26 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]er to take them over. Brezhmanov and others who I've read about in that book
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0:53:34 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]an, psychological plan to destabilize a country like America
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and take it over. Now what I think is going to happen is that Trump is preparing, in fact
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we've led this with Andrew Picatin finding the algorithms in the state boards of election
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0:53:54 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]ually ruled that all Wisconsin state elections have
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0:54:02 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]ruck down this voter provision where you can get
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0:54:10 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]r's license with a green card and then you automatically check a box and say you're
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a citizen. Nobody checks that and you get a voter registration even if you only have
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0:54:20 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] So Trump is going to, it's being prepared right now and there's a debate going
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openly attacking this Todd Blanch, Deputy Attorney General who has been blocking Trump's
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agenda and Peter Titken has given interviews saying that Trump needs to fire this Todd
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Blanch because he's not letting Tina Peters be released. No more pardons have come out
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since Todd Blanch said I'll run the Department of Justice. Pam Blondie appears to be working
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out of her office in Miami and only doing press conferences while Todd Blanch is running
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0:55:04 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ice and this has got to come to an end. But Trump is preparing
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0:55:10 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]er which will say only citizens can vote so you have to have a voter ID and
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proof of citizenship. He will end this general mail-in ballot system where open mail-in ballot
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go back to the absentee balloting and he'll eliminate the machines that are being used.
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He's brought in to the White House Kurt Olson, a former congressman whose job is going to
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be to disseminate more and more information about how the [privacy contact redaction]olen and
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0:55:44 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] coming out in great length talking about Chinese
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0:55:51 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ion and documenting how China wanted to flip votes for Biden to
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get Trump out of office. Whereas the intelligence at that time before the [privacy contact redaction]ion that
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Brennan had and others had was that Russia was not interfering with the election which
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Obama demanded be changed at the very end as approaching the Russian collusion narrative
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0:56:23 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]ion and that was when the DNI, the intelligence agencies
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0:56:29 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]atement that Russia was interfering with the election and the
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in the cities, he's going to continue doing that, both to get control of these democratic
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0:56:49 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]op the violence, demand enforcement of law, have ICE be able to operate to remove
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0:56:56 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]epped up now and if necessary Trump can invoke the
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political power to do that. Article 2 powers as commander in chief say that our elections
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are under foreign attack and the military can run the [privacy contact redaction]ion under rules that
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0:57:15 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]s won't have anything to say about it because it will be
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0:57:21 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ion and untaken as commander in chief to protect the integrity of our elections
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from foreign interference. So these things are all in shaping right now and we're following
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them very closely but I think this gives you some of the behind the scenes look at what's
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really going on in Washington and Trump has had a very successful trip to Asia. I think
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he had a successful trip to Great Britain by the way, in Great Britain. I believe a
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deal has been made with MI6 to turn over the British intelligence on the Department of
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0:58:01 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ice's activities in counterintelligence in Great Britain to concoct the Russian intelligence
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scheme and Trump has agreed not to press the royal family's involvement with Epstein which
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is beginning to come out. You see Prince Andrew is no longer Prince Andrew and that's the
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the real one that the British family wants protected is Prince Charles now King Charles
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0:58:39 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] been involved in the same activities as was Andrew and the
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royal family does not want that coming out and so far Trump does not seem to be pushing
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0:58:50 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ein are going to continue. It's now I think becoming
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0:58:58 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]ein was an agent of the CIA and Mossad and he was engaged in
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a massive blackmailing operation. So the Epstein story is going to continue to develop and
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it is now developing into a real threat to the British royal family at a time when the
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0:59:15 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] point perhaps in history especially with the Islamization
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that's going on in Great Britain and the movement away from British rule to Sharia law which
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will intensify over the next few years if it's not stopped. So we covered a lot of different
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0:59:38 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]s let me end with that much and we'll get into questions and discussion.
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0:59:43 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]ephen collects his thoughts for the first set of
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0:59:48 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]ions I want to share on my screen everybody and particularly for the purposes of the recording
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Jerome's excellent website and this is an this for those watching now live but also
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1:00:07 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]ic information in it I recommend that you go to godsfivestones.com
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1:00:19 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]ion integrity all the topics on which Jerome has been speaking there's Andrew Paquette
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reference there's exposing corruption Obama coup d'etat human trafficking spiritual warfare
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archbishop Vagano comment video archive mission and privacy so gods five stones if you want
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to be informed and great work you do there Jerome secondly Jerome I want to bring to
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your attention Buttonheart Bear. Right yes. And Buttonheart Bear is part of the forever
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1:01:01 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]rategy to shine a light on the horrors of child trafficking
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1:01:09 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ry. I'm very pleased you're doing this thank you. So it's a big deal it's
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1:01:14 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]e can get Buttonheart and to engage Buttonheart at social media and
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say what's Buttonheart about it's a unique bear's got a heart that every one of them
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is numbered he's got his travel pack and he's got a whole bunch of clothing and it becomes
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1:01:30 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]e to discuss this problem because most people are not aware of the horrors of
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child trafficking so I'll put the link to forever freedom movement into the chat so
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well done on your website it's a it's a well worthy of study and Stephen over to you for
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1:01:47 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ions. So Jerome I think that was amazing the way you just talked about
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1:01:55 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]ift around the world and you're American and you're despite the
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1:02:02 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction] you're American you're nuanced and so and so thank you for all your work and for
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your thought and for taking yourself seriously because I think that's what you're beginning
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to do. Well I think you were serious before but I don't think you understood your power
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and especially when you survived the Mueller investigation so I think you're ironclad because
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1:02:32 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]igation but also I wanted to ask you you remember
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that well they're still doing it of course people are saying Trump's not going to solve
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things you know but if you so and but they were saying it before January the 20th as
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1:02:51 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction] months Jerome do you think that I personally think that
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1:02:57 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]ill think he is amazing I just don't understand how he can be keeping tabs
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on the nuances as well because he remembers things that have happened and he says the
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right thing and doesn't actually he says things like he's very courageous and he can be very
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1:03:21 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] of the time he gets it right so I'm not saying he's
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1:03:25 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]e I think he's got that wrong and I think HHS is you know
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I think they're going to start again with HHS but anyway maybe you can point on that.
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Another thing I would like to say I would like to hear what you think of JD Vance so
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1:03:43 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]and it it was it was Charlie Kirk who recommended JD Vance as Vice President
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to Trump and but I noticed that Vance you know at first I thought there might be miscommunication
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between Trump and Vance but Vance never seems to put foot wrong he even got the White House
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you know when they were at the White House and Zelensky was there and he called out Zelensky
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over the head of the President as I understood it but Trump approved so he always seems to
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get it right he's very young he's the youngest in the cabinet I think he's 40 I think he's
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1:04:23 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction] this week I'd heard it before but I'd forgotten that he was a
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Vance was a recommendation of Charlie Kirk to Trump is that right?
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1:04:35 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]ually I think more Peter Thiel Peter Thiel supported him and wanted him to
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be advanced I think Charlie Kirk was in favor of Vance Thiel's become much more active in
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Ohio I've been doing a lot more work with Ohio I was born and raised in Ohio and I'm
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doing a lot of work in Ohio right now.
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1:04:55 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]e seem to be briefing against Thiel because of his involvement with what's
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that firm there in the UK trying to get in in the UK via the NHS?
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1:05:08 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]tar I think is the one you're thinking about the Planetar.
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Palantir yes.
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Palantir and yeah Palantir is you know a suspect firm in terms of how much control that they
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1:05:19 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]e I mean there's digital IDs and all these other things that are possible
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1:05:25 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]opian and Trump is fighting them.
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So why would Charlie Kirk be working with Peter Thiel?
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Well I don't think that Peter Thiel was very influential in Ohio in the 20 before the 2024
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1:05:40 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ayed a big role in Ohio recently he sees it as an investment area
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and I'm not endorsing Peter Thiel I think Vance is in his own right strong and you know
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I think he is growing into the role in his interview he made it clear that his role was
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to give President Trump his ideas when asked but then when President Trump made a decision
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to support that decision and that's the correct role of the Vice President.
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Absolutely.
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And so he seems to be doing a job and I think Vance is coming to be more MAGA than he was
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1:06:26 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] with the MAGA agenda but Trump hasn't deviated.
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1:06:32 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ill facing opposition from the judges, liberal judges and I'm going to
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begin recommending again to Trump that he could introduce legislation to redo the federal
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judiciary which would mean that every existing federal judge would lose their job because
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1:06:52 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] a lifetime job but not if the job doesn't exist. So we could reorganize
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the federal judiciary because it's not called for in the Constitution. The Constitution
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says that Congress may appoint federal judges from time to time as deemed appropriate. So
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therefore there's no requirement that we have a district or circuit court structure the
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1:07:13 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction] it. It could be redefined.
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1:07:17 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]inating everything at the White House because it seems to me
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things are moving apace on, you know, there are so many fields. So he goes on an Asia
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trip and creates another set of narratives. So who do you think is coordinating everything
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at the White House? Is it Suzy Wiles or is it Stephen Miller?
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Well Suzy Wiles has a big influence of course and is kind of the gatekeeper to Trump but
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1:07:44 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction] right now who are on board with his agenda.
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I think you see that clearly Pete Hegseth and the Department of Defense,
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immigration issue. I think the Department of Justice yet has internal problems to be resolved
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but it's moving in the right direction. There's evidently a lot of subpoenas being issued
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and a lot of grand jury work going on behind the scenes on this Obama coup. And I would not be
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1:08:22 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]igation for treason. Now again whether people like Brennan
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or Obama at that level go to jail, that's going to be as much a political decision in the United
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States as it will be a legal decision but I think they're all vulnerable to indictment and I don't
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think Trump's going to let up on all that area. The mortgage fraud which I point out for Act Blue,
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my associate and friend Joel Gilbert did the investigative work on Letitia James and mortgage
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1:08:58 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] been using mortgage fraud as one of their preferred ways
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to launder money and that's going to come out. I recommended to the Department of Justice that
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1:09:11 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]igation and it has been put under investigation, criminal
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1:09:15 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]igation. It has been put under? Yes. As a result of your recommendation or? Well certainly
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1:09:21 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]rongly recommended it. Absolutely. And I spoke to the internal officers
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who assigned it so I know it's under investigation. Very good. Jerome you can smell out
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1:09:35 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]ivity like no other in my opinion. You are, well you have enormous
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1:09:42 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] and the Russiagate thing says everything to me. As soon as I knew
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about Russiagate I thought wow, Jerome's the real deal even though he's modest. So I just wanted to
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ask you, you said Putin has won the war but it sounds like you're a little bit not surprised but
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I think you would agree that Ukraine was never going to win this war so essentially everybody
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was supporting Ukraine, all the European leaders and all the European people for that matter and
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whoever, they've been actually backing a war that was never going to be won by Ukraine ever. It was
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1:10:28 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] been fought. Absolutely, that as well yes but they
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were never going to win because they were never going to win. The bottom line that has motivated
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1:10:40 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]ern part of Ukraine which is under the influence of Germany is still
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neo-Nazi and they constantly oppress the Russian speaking populations. They send these neo-Nazi
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mobs into attack any freedom independence groups in these Russian speaking provinces
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and Putin finally had enough of it. They started to attack the Russian Orthodox clergy and
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everyone paints Putin as being a power hungry monster and certain KGB characteristics of it
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1:11:18 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ify that conclusion but Putin also has very strong Russian Orthodox faith. Yes,
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1:11:26 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]s going to defend Russia just as America would defend itself if Russia started
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1:11:32 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] Indies and we've seen that before of course.
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Yes, well we've seen you know the issues that we're dealing with are complex but what Trump is
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able to do and has done is he's cut through these issues with a simplicity that makes them issues
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really clear in terms of what's at stake. In other words if the Democrats want to support
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illegal immigrants voting, criminals in the street being released without bail,
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paying for Medicaid and Medicare for illegal immigrants, all the things the Democrats are
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supporting right now, supporting Hamas, opposing Israel, going woke and gender transformation of
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1:12:29 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]en before they reach the age of puberty, surgeries that mutilate them forever. These are
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1:12:36 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]rage person is going to accept and so therefore Trump has exposed the
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Democratic Party for what it is which is an anti-American policy and party that I've opposed.
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I wrote the Obama Nation, I pointed out that Obama was a communist and he had been raised in Islam
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1:12:58 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]e at that time didn't want to believe it. They wanted to say hope and change.
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One of the points that's fascinated me because I think that Ukraine was another Trojan horse for
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1:13:09 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]e in Western Europe and in America for that matter
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to believe that it was possible for Ukraine to defeat Russia. So disregarding the causes of
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what happened, Putin's invasion, it seems to me that Ukraine could never win a war against Russia.
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1:13:31 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction] to look at a map. It's like getting over 20 times the size of Ukraine,
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Russia area-wise. So they were never going to win but the people of Europe and America,
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somewhere in America, it was very important to destabilize them by getting them to believe
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something that was never going to happen and they did believe it within a week of the announcement
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of the invasion. And this is very much like I pointed out when we're talking about Meredith.
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Yes, I agree with you. Yes, that's exactly why I was bringing it up. Yeah.
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It's that the lies told to promote perpetual war. Correct. So people constantly feel
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1:14:17 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]abilized. They feel like they're trapped. There's nothing they can do but to go along
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with this agenda. So the main intention in my opinion as a medical doctor, Jerome,
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1:14:28 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]abilize human beings. Yes, I agree. And exactly as Meredith Miller has pointed out,
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but she hasn't kind of pointed out this nuance perhaps. I think the aim is to destabilize human
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beings and it was deliberate and they did the same with COVID and they did the same with climate
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1:14:45 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]opping the climate change. Well, they've psychologically
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1:14:49 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]e for a long time to believe something that was clearly not true. Well,
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1:14:53 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]ete nonsense because the science does not justify it. I mean,
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1:14:58 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]r, the primary very causative variable of the
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Earth's temperature. It's a minor factor and carbon dioxide as it's increased, it's only
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increased marginally, we're in a warming period and the Earth is greener. Yes. So that's not a
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detriment to humanity, that's a positive. And also, Jerome, it's very destabilizing for most
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Americans and for Europeans observing it to see America of all countries opening its southern
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1:15:36 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]er unchecked and children disappearing and it's just another
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Trojan horse for totalitarianism getting people to think it's normal that that's happening in
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1:15:48 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ates of America when it clearly isn't and also free speech being banned in the UK,
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1:15:54 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction], you know, just crazy stuff. We're going through
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a period of time where the attempt is to destabilize traditional values, create chaos
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and, you know, Brezmanov and others have pointed this out and it's one of the communist
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ideas, it's the communist ideology playbook going back to 1917 or before
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1:16:20 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]abilizing societies produces chaos in which a small group can gain power
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and impose their totalitarian will upon a society in which they kill those who got them into power
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because they don't want any more change. Correct and they certainly don't want human beings
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to thrive. Jerome, thank you so much for your great work and for your insights and
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1:16:44 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ent with your analysis and getting me and others to listen to you. Great work from you.
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Well, thank you, I appreciate it and these are, you know, these are things that I've seen and
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written about and I've been trying to prevent them. The best way to have them be prevented is
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1:17:06 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]e see them and I give Donald Trump great credit for that.
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Yes, essentially make a diagnosis because without the diagnosis as to what might have happened
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1:17:17 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] happened, you're never going to solve anything and people don't understand
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this. It's the power of the truth and trying to get as close as possible over a period of time
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to the truth even though it may hurt in the short term, you have to do it to solve the problem.
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Yeah, you've got to have a diagnosis that's correct before you can solve the problem.
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Absolutely. And you know, the diagnosis includes the fact that we have allowed this to happen
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1:17:45 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] from God, that we have not supported traditional values the way we
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1:17:51 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] and we've got to return to that. So a movement is, I think, beginning to
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1:17:56 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] produced this globalism and this transhumanism movement
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which depopulation of the earth and all these other crazy ideas. Yeah, one thing Charles,
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1:18:10 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] mention the crown, the golden crown which they gave to Trump in South Korea
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and the no-kings people absolutely don't understand it, you know, but essentially South
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Korea wants to get as close as possible to Trump because they don't want to be communist. That's
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right. That's right. Nicely the golden crown, I love it. All right, let's, good work Stephen,
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got lots of hands up, lots of people to discuss matters as do I and I just want to tell you,
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Jerome, that in the Murdoch press on the weekend there was a credible report that
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Hummus has announced it's abandoning Gaza. So there you are, I'm just passing it on, don't need
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to comment, but it was in the Murdoch press so it wasn't published likely, I wouldn't think. Okay,
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Marv, then Julie, then Glenn, then Chuck and whoever else, on we go, Marv.
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Hey, Jerome, we in Salem, Oregon, we have a very active chapter of the Democratic Socialists of
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1:19:18 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction] summer of the Likud's genocide program in Gaza, I attended two
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1:19:28 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]er and the first one had between 350 and 400. More than half
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1:19:38 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ration group were LGBTQ people and I've read that 20% of America's
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1:19:53 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]ed to the LGBT, 20% of us are gay, I guess. So anyway, I'm sure you've
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looked at this, what is the connection between the LGBTQ sympathy and the Democratic Socialists
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of America? What the heck's going on there? Thank you. Well, they just hate the traditional
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values, they hate that, you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So they both have, same with
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the Hamas supporters, I find the Hamas supporters be very strong in the Democratic Socialist movement
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and reach across into the LGBT movement and the universities, which are solidly pro-Hamas. In fact,
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1:20:42 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]udent on many of the Ivy League schools is a problem these days, they're harassed.
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And so therefore, you know, the anti-Israel sentiment has never been higher, in my view,
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since the end of World War II, there was always great sympathy for the creation of Israel in
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relationship to the response to the Holocaust. But today, the viewing of Israel as a genocidal
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nation, the viewing of Israel as aggressive or the territorially mad or, you know, the pressure on
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Israel internationally has never been greater. United Nations is a solidly anti-Israel group.
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1:21:29 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]inian movement, there really never was a Palestine. It was the British name for the British
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1:21:36 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]orate, everybody who lived in Palestine, whether they were Jews or Arabs or whatever,
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1:21:40 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]inians. So therefore, what's been sorted out, I think,
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1:21:48 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] organizations committed to the destruction of
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1:21:57 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ate. That's what has to pass from the earth before we're going to, and that's
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why I'm so much in favor of the Abraham Accords, on the hope that people will see a path towards
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1:22:08 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ivity as a solution to many of these divisions, which I trace back to people like Obama
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1:22:16 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ively flamed these fans of division. He did it with blacks. He did it with,
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1:22:23 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] days he was in office with that incident with a professor who was locked out of
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1:22:28 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]on police were apprehending him. They had that beer summit in the White House
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1:22:34 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ually very active in promoting racial relations in a positive
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sense in the police department. So Obama's always been the source of a lot of these divisions
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and Eric Holder along with him, that whole team that he had in place,
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1:22:55 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ill suffering a lot of the ideas that were fostered during the Obama years.
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Okay. Thanks, Jerome. I just want to point out that those of us who oppose apartheid are not
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Hamas supporters. I've opposed apartheid for 40 years. It has nothing to do with Hamas. Thank you.
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Well, and I agree. I've opposed apartheid too for equally. I was in South Africa when Mandala was
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released and was part of that whole group monitoring that situation. Those were important
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steps to take. Now what's happening in South Africa again today is another issue. There's
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much more there to be resolved. But apartheid certainly was abhorrent and had to be opposed.
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We've now got apartheid here in Victoria, Jerome and Marv, on Friday, the 14th of October.
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Jerome and Marv on Friday, the Victorian Parliament passed a law setting up a treaty
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1:24:00 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] apartheid and it's going to be a grift of moving money
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to the Aboriginal game, which is all controlled by non-Aboriginals, of course. So apartheid is
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being re-established, Marv, number one. Number two, Jerome, I point out to you and to everybody,
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1:24:20 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]en's vaccine schedule of 76
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1:24:26 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]en the first 18 years of their lives, who knows what's in that
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1:24:33 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ruction of natural sexuality and turns them into LGBTQI,
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ABC, FUCK. Okay, so we don't know how that's being done, but what we do know is that the
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1:24:52 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] agenda and the depop agenda has been around, the eugenics movement has been around for
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1:24:56 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] to depopulate is to have people unable to produce children. So the
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horrors, Jerome, of the ability of people to understand values when they're so unhealthy from
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1:25:13 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]ion into their bodies, in my view, is a crucial element in what we have in
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society. I agree and it goes along with the psychological conditioning that's been learned
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1:25:27 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] been great advances in psychological social control
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and so globally we're getting a dumbed down population that is not capable of
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the true critical thinking skills that previous generations were taught.
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That's especially with our technological advances, instead of having these cell phones
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and everything be great for illuminating and having open discussion, they become,
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you know, these are our social monitoring, this is big government monitoring everything we do.
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Yeah, and John Drozd, who's been on his presenters before, was here last week.
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John wrote wonderfully about the removal of courses on logic and clear thinking
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1:26:25 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]em, both in Australia and America.
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So John is another one that should, John should do a book too. John's one I would
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support doing a book as well. I will tell him. Thank you.
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1:26:38 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] thing I want to say, Jerome, is I think this Likud party is on their way to
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1:26:45 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]roying the Israeli experiment and I don't see how they can be headed off at this juncture.
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They're just destroying, they're destroying cultures in the mid-east. I mean, that psychopathic,
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yeah, I think it's, I think it's, we're going to watch the end of the Israeli experiment.
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Okay, thanks. Very good.
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I'm not sure, the one thing about Israeli politics is it's so contentious
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at all times that as soon as Likud looks like it's this strong, there'll be reaction against it.
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1:27:27 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]ep down, which I think is getting to be time, that Likud will not
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be as, it will moderate and Israeli politics will have it moderate. The Israeli people,
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I believe, want peace and they do not want to alter the original, the cultures around them.
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There's no attempt to say that they want to eliminate Islam, they want Islam to go through
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a reformation. That's fundamentally the cause. So like all the other major religions, renounces
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1:28:04 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] to be killed. Christianity had to go through the same thing
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1:28:10 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] to do it as well. But the point is that the cultures can remain strong
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1:28:19 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]s because you'll still have, you know, the Saudis will be different than
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the, you know, than the people in Jordan or Egypt, they'll all have their own cultures.
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But the fundamental idea, it's got to be the renunciation of the idea that Israel is a Jewish
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1:28:38 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]royed. That's the one idea that has to be agreed on.
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Thanks, Marv. Good thought provoking questions and what we do here. We love those who have
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different opinions to us. It's a great challenge of Christianity, you know, it's great. We're
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1:28:55 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]ic at loving those who agree with us. The great challenge isn't it, Jerome,
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1:28:59 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]e who disagree with us. So that's the whole value of debate and discussion
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is not it's to examine ideas. Yeah. Excellent. Julie, Julie is fighting a great fight, Jerome,
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as you know, in the state of California or the fact that the Communist Republic of California.
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It sure is tell you fighting the fight here for sure. And yeah, Marv, I tell you in Chico,
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1:29:26 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction] DSA. It's like the all of our liberals here are part of that communist organization and
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1:29:32 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]onewall Alliance. That's where they are downtown Chico here,
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giving free monkey pock shots and free gift cards to get STD tested. So they're quite horrifying,
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even though we've run most of them off the council. So but I digress. So what a way to
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1:29:47 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]ice medicine. I know. Horrifying. So yeah, so and I, you know, I had all these juicy questions
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for Hatfield. So I hope the man comes and apologizes to Dr. Frost. Are we getting back on?
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But and I'm glad Dr. Corsi that you're here because I've been thinking about you with this
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whole Charlie Kirk assassination. You know, when you reviewed your book, The Final Analysis,
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with us, I don't know when that was, but everything about the JFK assassination was a lie,
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like everything. And you pointed out so well in your book. And in fact, I sent that book to
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my brother who's a high school teacher and said, dude, everything you're teaching your kids is a
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lie. Maybe you ought to read this book. So now here we are. And they lied about, you know, JFK,
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RFK, MLK. Now people are like calling this CJK. You're lying about this too. So, you know, are we
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going to be here like 50 years from now and having Jerome Corsi grandchildren writing books going,
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hey, all this stuff, you know, was a big old lie. This 20 year old kid did not shoot Charlie Kirk
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with the 30-06. I mean, it's outrageous. All these lies being told to us by a lot of the head people
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of the TPUSA as well. And I it's funny because I don't have a dog in this fight so much other than
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I'm big on truth and transparency now. So I look at everything. I watch it all. And I've been watching
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1:30:58 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] week. She's exposing a ton of truth. So I just encourage everybody to kind
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1:31:04 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ion for you is, and then in Cash Patel, watching his hands,
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1:31:08 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]or of PI, nope, sorry, no foreign interference. Let's just move on. Really? No,
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we're not moving on. I don't want my grandchildren to be going, this is outrageous. So do you see a
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lot of parallels with the Charlie Kirk and the JFK with all of this, you know, nonsense? And
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1:31:23 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ual truth with Charlie Kirk's murder? Are we just going to
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lock up this kid in jail, call it a day, and then go on and just be done with it? So thanks again
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1:31:34 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ening to you. Well, I mean, it's clear that the official
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1:31:40 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]anation of the Charlie Kirk assassination does not hold true. There's too many loopholes,
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and there are too many parts that are not answered. Now, the kid assembled the white weapon and
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disassembled the weapon. And this is a Mauser from World War II with a scope on it. That's a weapon
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that would take a true expert to pull off that kind of a shot, and certainly would not be the
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weapon of choice of a professional assassin who would have laser-guided, you know,
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1:32:15 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ics to be able to shoot from and would choose other weaponry. The whole thing doesn't
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make a lot of sense. And the attempt to suppress questioning and investigation
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doesn't make a lot of sense either. So, you know, right now the attempt to make Charlie Kirk into a
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1:32:34 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ions about who really did it and all the things that
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show up in the videos that are not been answered. So I think it's going to be very hard to get the
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truth of Charlie Kirk right now. But I'm not believing the official story.
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Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you all. Oh, by the way, I was going to say, so Shasta is
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hooking up Meredith and I so that Meredith can come on our Twitter space and do a promo on her
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1:33:05 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]a Erickson. Thank you. Shasta and Meredith can come and speak to us again
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1:33:11 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]a on the call? That's a good idea, Stephen. Get Meredith to talk about the book.
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Great idea. Yeah, it's very important because people need to be told this over and over again
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because it doesn't, it doesn't, they don't want to believe it. She's very good on it. She's very good
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on it. And she's excellent. Yeah. And I think she's a victim herself. Yes, she is. She is.
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And that's why she understands it so well. All right. So Julie, you know, the question of
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Charlie Kirk, Jerome, you weren't here when we had Rob McCoy on here, but
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Charlie was born on my birthday. So there you are. Okay. Like I'm a CK. All right.
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1:33:55 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction] around, Charles, you know, you were born on his birthday. Maybe he was.
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No, bullshit. I was born first. I got cramped, Stephen. Okay, let's move on. Let's move on.
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Over to you, Glen. Hi, Jerome. Good seeing you again. Glen, how are you? I'm good. Mine's going
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1:34:17 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction] a mountain of facts and other areas. I want to sort of
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1:34:26 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction] discussed and agree on. And that's that there is a evil elite
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1:34:36 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]n. That evil elite is a mix of
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the Rockefellers, the Soros's led by George Soros and Bill Gates, the US deep state, you know,
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all the prior presidents prior to Donald Trump, where Donald Trump is the real deal for not being
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1:35:04 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]ate. And that, to some extent, lower level patsy set is the Democratic communist
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party. And they're paid for rhinos. Now, if we if we look what they have done over several decades,
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they they they they're not partial, they they buy out everybody. They never want to lose because
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they've always got a bet down on something. And so wherever that is, they'll just double down and
989
1:35:38 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]art to come into power. The Democratic Party is starting
990
1:35:44 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction] to be thinking of, gee, what are we going to do around the next wave
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of things that are going on? And the movement by Charlie Kirk was that wave that that wave of gen
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z's that, you know, had to live through the the the woke cycle, lived through not having a real high
993
1:36:09 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ivities. And now in college and somewhat limited, even as they started
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college. So they they're ready to throw the book out and start over. And and Charlie was that
995
1:36:22 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ion, both spiritually and with a simple set of ideas to to believe in. And and clearly,
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the evil elite, Soros and the Rockefellers will put them at the top. They can't allow that to work.
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1:36:35 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction] as as when the Canadian truckers initially started to have success. And
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then even after that, the Canadian Canadian veterans, they took out their best agents.
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They sent them in to penetrate those organizations, and then they tore them apart from the inside out.
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1:36:54 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]eted that with Canadians, they did the same thing to the U.S. trucker effort.
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So I'm I'm deeply, deeply worried here that that they're doing this with the only success,
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1:37:09 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ory that we've had, and that is with Gen Z and Charlie Kirk effort, and that that
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the the turning point organization is under attack and and potentially very vulnerable.
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1:37:24 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]erability is with the kind of things that Tucker Carlson
1005
1:37:32 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction] and trying to get so much of the U.S. population into believing that
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the nation of Israel and Netanyahu are evil. And he's they aren't they're quite biblical.
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1:37:47 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction], the combination of Christians and and and the Jewish faith and the state of Israel is
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is so prominent in the Bible and in the discussion of the olive tree, where the
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the Jewish side is the roots to the olive tree and the Christians are those that are grafted on.
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And yes, there are parts of the question. Hold on, please. Excuse me. No, you've talked for five
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minutes now. It's not I've said I've set it up. You're going to have to listen.
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Well, we want the question. OK, so so Jerome, that the the issue with Tucker Carlson and
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and the danger that he may be to the entire structure of turning point,
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do you agree that that he's a problem and a risk around undoing so much of the strong elements of
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1:38:42 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] happened with with that movement? I don't really understand why Tucker has
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gone as extreme as he has on Israel. That to me is a surprise. And I agree with you. I think that
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1:38:57 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]orical biblical role. I do think it's I think it may be time for
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Netanyahu to retire. I'm getting some of the credible sources that I trust in Israel to
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express to me the same idea that there is a sense that he's done his job.
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And now it's time for new leadership in a new era. And I think that we're seeing that
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1:39:26 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction] Kellogg and embrace the Abraham Accords,
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I think is a solution and then develop the region, which can be done through a private capital.
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I'm very interested in thinking a lot about how that can happen.
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But the point is that I think that the turning point organization, you're right, was very, very
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1:39:48 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]er movement. And the assassination of Charlie Cook, I think,
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has backfired in that it has deepened the at least for now the impact of turning point USA
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on college campuses. And the Hamas leadership is being exposed for what it is, which is essentially
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a hate movement. So I think that the universities are one of the next things on the agenda to be
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dealt with. And I believe that Donald Trump will begin looking at endowments being taxed,
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he'll be again looking at cutting government funding of tuition loans, which Obama put into place.
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But the point is, I think we're at a turning point in history where the destruction of the
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1:40:36 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]er to reject this globalism. But the evil is very intense,
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as we discussed here, including like as Charles has mentioned with these new agendas with the
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Aborigines. I mean, these people are not going to give up easy. And so therefore, we got to,
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it's going to be a continuing battle. But it's one for the moment, I think we are winning.
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And the Democratic Party is self-destructing. And I don't think that the this evil hate group
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is going to win in the final analysis. I think God wins in the final analysis. But I do think
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we're into a spiritual battle. And that spiritual battle has to be fought in spiritual terms.
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Very small follow on. For the benefit of the US and the world, do you think that we would be better
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off if Tucker Carlson shut off his microphone relative to Israel? Well, I think Tucker Carlson
1041
1:41:32 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] a say and let him express his point of view. I don't I think I was disappointed to
1042
1:41:39 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ronger position about Tucker. But I think Tucker is not
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1:41:47 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] I think Tucker is hurting his own brand at the moment. And so
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therefore, I would advise him to reevaluate his own position. But I don't think silencing him is
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a solution either. Well, I was saying to that we pushed it on him that but that was self self
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assessment of what he is doing. Yeah, recognizing the danger he's doing to all of us. I think if he
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would reassess it, it would be very valuable for him to rethink this whole issue. Okay, thank you
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very much. Thank you, Glenn. Hey, Chuck. Hi, Jerome, nice to meet you. I've never attended any of your
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speeches or presentations before. And I'm, you know, I appreciate your perspective that the
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Democratic Party is in some kind of collapse and the Republican Party will triumph and
1051
1:42:53 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]ished under President Trump. I'm not bullish like you are
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on that. And but but like Glenn raised this issue of a globalist power elite, I certainly accept that.
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And so I subscribe to the ideas of David Hughes. And he coined the term Omni War. And he frames
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the situation as class war by the super powerful plutocratic elite, which in my view,
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plays kabuki theater between the Democrats and Republicans to divide and conquer people and keep
1056
1:43:30 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]ate of shock and awe off kilter as someone observed. So I think the big threat to
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1:43:39 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]s, the technocracy, which are front for, again, this
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powerful elite. So I guess what I'm, you know, my question to you is, and I'll say this, that
1059
1:43:59 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]in Fitz is kind of subscribes to this devolution of power theory to and the empowerment
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of the local areas, which means a democracy movement. Do you see, I think the only antidote
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1:44:17 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]e that brought us 9-11 that killed JFK, the power behind the military industrial
1062
1:44:25 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]aying out today. And they've given us the COVID event to test compliance.
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And that's all came down through Department of Defense. It's not just corporations doing it.
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1:44:36 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ete control and possession by this powerful plutocracy. I can't see any other
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way to respond than to counsel that there be an authentic real democracy movement of a mass
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1:44:52 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] to take agency in a civic, in a political sense.
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And again, I'm not confident that Donald is going to be a great liberator. But those are my thoughts.
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1:45:06 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction] return to traditional values and
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1:45:13 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction] a technocracy? I mean, because that is the plan for Gaza,
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apparently. Well, I think that first of all, the greater civic involvement is required. And the
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1:45:26 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]s and the city councils and all the powers of position. Soros has
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funded prosecutors who don't believe in prosecuting crimes. I mean, there's been a lot done to
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1:45:37 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ate and local control. Put it in the hands, especially in cities of this,
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1:45:45 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction] group which aligns itself with the globalists. But it's not the same as the globalists.
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1:45:53 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]roy the woke left if the globalists got power the way they want it.
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I don't believe Donald Trump is going to solve all problems. Donald Trump is mostly
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important for setting out the themes that he is articulating, as I think great leadership has to do,
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1:46:15 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]e get it and get on the right side of issues. And that's,
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I think, what he's trying to do. I'm not confident. The Republican Party is no solution either. The
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Republican Party has massive corruption in it. And I've never been a Republican as such. I wanted
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1:46:35 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] opposed globalism. And I believe we do need grassroots
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involvement for a democracy movement, although people continue to use the word democracy.
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And I'm kind of in agreement with the ancient Greeks. Democracy scares me as much as
1084
1:46:55 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]otle's solution of a constitutional republic,
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in which we are, which we are supposed to be, is the only real form of government that has any
1086
1:47:08 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]rong middle class. That was Aristotle's solution. I've always agreed
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with that. So again, I think we're going through a dark period of time, and it's especially
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dangerous because of the technological advances we have, which empower the ability for massive
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surveillance that was never before imaginable as possible. So the tools of totalitarianism are
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certainly much more available than they ever were. And the question is, are we going to be able to
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preserve individual liberties in this kind of a technological era? So I'm not relying upon Donald
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Trump, but I am appreciating these articulating values that counter the control over the narrative
1093
1:47:55 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction], you know, before World War I. Certainly with Woodrow Wilson,
1094
1:48:03 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]arted controlling the narrative in this country and tilting it more and more towards
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Hegelianism and Marxism. And it hasn't stopped. Thank you, Jerome. Excellent thinking. And I think
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it was someone in this meeting, Jerome, who introduced me to the simple statement that
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democracy is the tyranny of the 51% over the 49%. Right. That's right. Nice idea. You know, it's
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all right. On with thank you. Thank you, Chuck. Karen. Hello. Thank you. Jerome, you may have
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covered your camera on by any chance or does it not work? No, I don't have it on. You want to
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see me in my nightgown? It's Sunday. I don't do anything on Sunday. Okay. Anyhow, you may have
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covered this, but I didn't hear all of your coverage on Mamdani. I come from Tennessee,
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and US Representative Andy Ogles from Tennessee has been sounding the alarm about the fact that
1103
1:49:11 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ication for US citizenship. And he's written
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a letter to AG Pam Bondi months ago. Nothing's been done about it. And he's kind of reigniting
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1:49:28 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ion next week. You know, it's very obvious that he did falsify his
1106
1:49:36 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ication for US citizenship. And I'm wondering why nobody is taking this seriously. I mean,
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sitting back and waiting for him to try to stop ICE from taking immigrants. You know, I don't
1108
1:49:51 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]and why they're not actively. The man is not only a threat to New York City, he is a threat
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1:49:56 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]ates. You know, New York City is the hub of the economy or economics in the United
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States. So that, you know, I just don't understand why they're just not taking the hard stand
1111
1:50:12 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]igation, taking away his US citizenship and deporting the man.
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Well, that should be done. And again, the left has tried to protect all these people. Brennan
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1:50:25 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]ing over the weekend, gave statements about how he had done nothing wrong,
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and that he was very upset at being confronted with the intelligence assessments on Russian
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collusion and how he manipulated those. I mean, the pressure is not to do anything when it comes
1116
1:50:43 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]igating somebody like Mondami. But clearly the issue of his eligibility is going
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to be taken more seriously if he does win. And, you know, I pressed the issue of eligibility with
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Obama and found the birth certificate in Hawaii from which has it been copied.
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We then, the Sheriff Arpaio validated through forensic work that Obama's birth certificate was
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a forgery. So again, you know, this is not going to go away. And I think right at the moment,
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there's a hope that both in New York and New Jersey that we might see Republican wins that would
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1:51:29 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]oric, both in the governor race in New Jersey and in the mayoral race in New York.
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Cuomo seems to be gaining ground. But again, these issues are not going to go away if Mondami
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wins. They're going to intensify because the pressure to remove him is going to intensify
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1:51:48 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] what he's threatened to do, which will have
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potential criminal consequences. And the issue of eligibility is not going to go away.
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1:52:02 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction] said, I think it was Friday, that she would not allow him to
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increase taxes on the rich. Of course, I don't trust her either. But she was asked the question
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about Mondami's proposal of I think a 2% tax on the rich. And she said that she would never
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approve that. And the thing with Obama, I was very, very involved myself with the birth certificate
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and all that. And one of the things that people forget is a natural born citizenship in the days
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of our founders was transferred from father to children. This is written in the law of nations.
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It's very clear that natural born citizenship is transferred from the father and to the children.
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It doesn't matter where you're born. If your father is an American citizen, like John McCain,
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who was born in Panama, if your father is an American citizen, you are a natural born citizen
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by the law of God. And I think if we would have approached it from that aspect, rather than trying
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to prove where the man was born, which really doesn't make any difference. But, you know,
1138
1:53:20 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]and the real true original meaning of natural born citizen, not citizen,
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because that's different. And anybody else besides president or vice president can hold office as
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long as they are a citizen. But to be vice president or president, you must be a natural
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born citizen. And if again, if you do the research on what was believed to be a natural born citizen,
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when our documents that our founding fathers actually referred to the law of nations,
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when they were writing our founding documents, because the law of the law of nations was written
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in natural law. So, you know, that's the that my the group I worked with, we were going from the
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natural born citizen issue, because his father, well, the man he says was his father, because
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we're not real sure that he really was his father, was a British subject when when Obama was born.
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Same thing with Harris, neither one of her parents were natural were citizens, her father still to
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this day, is not a US citizen. Marco Rubio, both of his parents were Cuban when he was born here in
1149
1:54:36 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]ates. Nikki Haley, both of her parents were Indian citizens when she was born here in the
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1:54:43 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]ates. So, you know, we have a lot of bad.
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Karen, Karen, you raise good elements for Jerome to think about. And
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Jerome, Karen has presented some very interesting, her background is very interesting and useful.
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And Karen, you know, I think, Jerome, Karen could be a wonderful source of good research that she's
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done over a long time.
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I agree with you. And I think also the issue of natural born citizenship is going to get contested in the
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interpretation of the 14th Amendment, that if you're born here, you're natural, you're a citizen.
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And that that was not the original meaning of the 14th Amendment.
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That was that was the 1413 13th, 14th and 15th Amendment were what they call the slave amendments.
1159
1:55:31 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction]ess citizenship of the slaves who were not considered slaves.
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If you read, there is a thing called the Senate Report of 1866, which was a Senate hearing on the 14th
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Amendment two years before the 14th Amendment was ratified, ratified under oppression, by the way.
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And it clearly says in there to be a citizen, your parents have to be citizens.
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1:56:01 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction] to be citizens. And it also said that when they talk about the jurisdiction,
1164
1:56:16 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]ion thereof, children of foreign parents cannot be subject to,
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And that was also a part of being a citizen that people don't talk about. Oh, you're born here,
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you're a citizen, but they forget about the second part that says and subject to the jurisdiction
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thereof. So foreign parents are partially subject to the jurisdiction thereof. They can't murder
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1:56:47 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]e. They can't, you know, but they are not, they don't have a total allegiance to the United
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States until they become American citizens. Well, the exception that's always been recognized on the
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14th Amendment is if you're a child of a diplomat, born in the United States, you're not, by definition,
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of being born here an American citizen on the very basis that you point out. Right. And it's
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also brought up in that Senate hearing of 1866. It's not really, if anybody hasn't read it,
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you go to look it up, go to the reconstruction, the piece that talks about reconstruction,
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and it's a mind blower. It's a mind blower. It blows holes in so many lies that people have
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been told about the 14th Amendment, and they go into great detail and debate on what every piece
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of the 14th Amendment means. Well, the 14th Amendment is one of the more controversial
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1:57:49 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]and because it requires state action. In other words,
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1:57:53 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]ion to deny somebody rights. And so therefore, that's complicated.
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And then the provision about citizenship, you know, is you're right, they forget to take into
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1:58:07 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction] of the jurisdiction thereof. Okay, it was, those
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amendments that were passed coming out of slavery had to be viewed in the context that the slaves
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were taken from their homes and were here, and the children were born here, but the children,
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1:58:28 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]s were made to be citizens, then the children became citizens. And that was just,
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that was in the context of a great crime of slavery. But to universalize it, as they've
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attempted to, to anybody being born here is automatically a citizen is way beyond the
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1:58:46 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]atute, of the amendment. Right, well, because we have lawyers and
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1:58:53 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]e that feel that the Constitution is a living document and it changes
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with the times. It is not a living document. The only way to change the original intent of the
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1:59:06 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]itution is through the amendment process. You just can't change it to suit your purpose or your
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agenda or the times. And this is what we've lost, you know, even, okay, I don't want to go on. I
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1:59:21 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]e. I appreciate the time and thank you very much, Jerome.
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– Aaron, the communist in New York who's seeking election as the mayor, what is it exactly that he
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1:59:32 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]ication and is it disputed by anybody?
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– He said that he had no ties to communist or blah, blah, blah organizations and they can prove
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that he did. He came here when he was seven years old and he did not, he did not become a citizen,
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I don't know, six, seven, eight years ago. It hasn't been that long. Isn't it strange that he
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was here all this time and only became a U.S. citizen? And I believe he became a U.S. citizen
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2:00:04 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ed States. But anyhow, they said that he was not affiliated
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2:00:14 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction] organizations or what other organizations they mention in there. And he said
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2:00:20 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction] proof that he was. – So which communist organizations was the
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2:00:27 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ed to? – Well, I know that he is part of the, I think, the DSA, the Democrat,
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2:00:35 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction], I don't know. There's, he's affiliated with a lot of different groups.
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– All right, let's move on. But points well made, Karen. And as I said, Jerome, Karen has got some
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wonderful information if you need it. All right, we're getting, you're okay with another 27
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minutes till we finish it at the two and a half hour mark. Jerome, you're doing a great job.
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– Sure, we can go on to, we can go another 27 minutes. – 27 minutes, right. So Jim.
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– Hey, Jerome. Hey, thanks very much for the presentation. I really appreciate it. The issue of
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are you familiar with the Venona papers or Venona decrypts? – Yes.
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– And how does that play into the CIA paper that cites the difference between Ashkenazi and Sephardic?
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Have you seen that paper that says the Ashkenazi or Khazarians are, identifies them as
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2:01:42 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction] party that seeming to be taking the power from the Sephardic? What are your thoughts on
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2:01:48 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]e to be socialist and take over power that way?
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– Well, I haven't looked at that one specifically. That's new to me. But the –
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– Okay, I'm going to put it in the chat. And I'd like to take a look at that.
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– The Venona papers were clearly important because they exposed how many in the, you know,
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in the, you know, Roosevelt era were, the FDR era, were communists, you know, including some of the
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2:02:19 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]ed Nations and the various movements that were, you know,
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2:02:25 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]s right within the White House. – Right.
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– Dexter White and Harry Hopkins and –
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– Algar Hitt.
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– Algar Hitt. Algar Hitt. Algar Hitt is probably the major, the major expose.
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– Who founded the United Nations. He is the number two who founded the United Nations. It looks like the United Nations is actually a socialist plot.
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– Yeah, well, I met Algar Hitt and had discussions with him about it. And he insisted, you know,
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2:02:55 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]ed that he was innocent. But his code names and others,
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other information about him is clearly revealed in the Venona papers. There's no doubt about it.
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– Yes. And I encourage people to look at even the Venona project or the Venona decrypts
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in Wikipedia and it has an outline of it. But this tie to the, the, the, the Kisarians or,
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2:03:21 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]e who, for instance, in the Venona papers, they identified the Rosenbergs
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who were, who were selling secrets and, and others, including the guy who was recently freed
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from, from prison for taking secrets from the US Navy and selling them to China.
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And, and so it seems like there's a, there's a deep tie with the socialists and even the Chinese.
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And that may be, have you explored those ties?
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– Not specifically. I mean, I certainly studied the papers and know about the Rosenbergs
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2:04:00 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]udied them and, but the other ties, no, I have not looked at.
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– And, and what do you think about, what do you think about the issue of, of the,
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2:04:12 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]aff of our people in command that may be having ties to these,
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Turning Point, the second in command at, in the FBI, like many of these, like for instance,
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Erica Kirk, her history seems to be a little muddied. Where she was born.
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– Come on, Jim, come on, we're going, that 27 rabbit holes here.
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– Sorry about that. So I guess, thanks very much for,
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thanks very much for your presentation. I'll send you that CIA paper again.
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– Okay, thank you.
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– Appreciate it.
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– Thank you, Jim. All right, we're going to have Glenn quickly, then Tom, then Stephen,
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and we're finishing on time. Thank you, Jim. Glenn.
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– Hi, Jerome. Something you brought up after I spoke before. You mentioned the change,
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2:05:07 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]ration to a Republican administration in New Jersey.
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And if that does come to pass following the Tuesday's election,
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I was wondering, relative to that, and Thomas Matthew Crooks, the shooter, the attempted assassin
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of President Trump, Governor Murphy in New Jersey has been covering up and sealed from view a
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2:05:40 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction] records that are inside of New Jersey. And if we switch
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to a Republican governor, suddenly those records may come out and give us a lot more information
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2:05:55 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]ion to the true sponsors of Matthew Thomas Crooks.
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– That would be, I would hope that that would happen.
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– Good point, Glenn. And Jerome, you didn't mention, I meant to say it,
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2:06:10 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction]ew Paquette, I thought he told us that the voter roles, in fact,
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in the New York mayoral race are also problematic.
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– Yes. Yeah, the potential to steal the election in New York and New Jersey
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2:06:25 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction]an to watch it very carefully.
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– Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you for that. Now, before we go to Tom,
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2:06:33 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction] came in on my email. You might be interested in this,
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everyone, in the context of the discussion that we've been having.
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2:06:42 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction]uff. So here we have smearing and threatening Tucker Carlson will
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generate anti-Semitism instead of quelling it. So there you are, just relevant to what we've been
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talking about. Tom. – Sorry. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate, you know, your politeness and decorum
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and your position on the Ukraine and the work that you've done to publish people that have been
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here. I'm going to make sure I don't talk too much, so I'm timing myself here. Let's see.
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2:07:24 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction] been following some what I consider sort of right-wing. There's a program on the
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2:07:31 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]itution, and I've been trying to learn from it. And I'm a little concerned about some of the
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stuff that Trump is doing. Also, in light of that, I heard Neil Oliver talking about the
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Magna Carta and some of the predecessor documents 100 years before that. And to your point about
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democracy, he was highlighting a mechanism that I think we underappreciate, which is,
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doesn't have anything to do with democracy, really. It's called the jury trial. And in a
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jury trial, it only takes one person to hang the jury from what I understand.
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So that, I think, is a good talking point. And I think the right to trial by jury is really important.
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2:08:21 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction] democracy, you know, the high-techs point of view, some people
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2:08:27 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction] ordinary citizens voting several times a month, you know,
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nationwide. So there's some radical ideas out there. I wanted to, I'm hitting a lot of little
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points here. I'm looking at the time here. Okay. The DSA, I've had experience, I've gone to several
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meetings. I, you know, I'm curious about everything. My experience is there's a
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several different Marxism groups that are in there, and they're all kind of, they're not exactly
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fighting, but they're kind of talking amongst themselves. And that they're all very well-meaning
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2:09:06 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]e. I don't, in where I am in the Midwest, there's a strong history of, I think,
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sewer socialism, kind of benign positive socialism, egalitarian focus, you know, very well intentioned.
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So this idea that they're advocating violence is surprising to me. So I'm kind of running out of
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time here. I wanted to hit on this one point, and I am not an expert in this area, but
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2:09:37 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]ephen Miller, a new name for me, probably not for other people,
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2:09:43 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction] John Helmer, who was an advisor in the Carter administration, like 47 years ago,
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he looked at Carter's decision-making style. He coached him. He said Carter could read 300 pages
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in several days, do all kinds of analysis. Trump refuses to get an intelligence briefing.
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2:10:05 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]ory short, his view is that Trump is simply being controlled, and that Stephen Miller is one
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of the controllers. I'm kind of out of time, but I'm concerned about the constitutionality of what
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Trump is doing with ICE. You're mentioning military intervention and elections. I'd like to see us
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2:10:26 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]itution, and I'm concerned about Venezuela too, in light of what I just said.
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So any comments? Great. Thank you. Well, I mean, I've known Stephen Miller for a long time,
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and he's got very strong opinions, and he's influential. And Trump listens,
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2:10:45 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction]e, and when he doesn't want the intelligence briefings,
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he's just tired of being lied to and listening to all the manipulation that goes on through those
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intelligence briefings. Again, I don't think that Trump is necessarily an end-all, be-all solution.
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What he's doing is positive, but it's beginning to reverse a lot of decades that we've had of
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socialism being in its benign form to begin with, but then in its really negative and destructive
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2:11:24 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]s. It's malware. Every place it's appeared, it starts out sounding like
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it's still going to do a lot of good, and it ends up killing millions of people, and ends up in
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totalitarianism. So again, the solutions that are recommended by socialism don't address the problems
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that socialism is concerned about, which are real problems, but you're not going to get equality
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through DEI. You're going to get more equal participation by education of children who are
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raising families across races and across social conditions, and that's fundamental to human nature.
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So the solutions that these ideologies present tend ultimately to end in violence and control,
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whereas fundamentally, our constitution, as I see it as a republic, not as a democracy, was that free
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speech was preserved as fundamental so there didn't become a consensus on any particular
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ideology that they could all be debated, and that's I think the only solution in human events is to
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2:12:39 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction] these things to debate and examination, because we're all prone to go the
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2:12:45 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction] and to be deluded many times, and what we're learning about all the lies the government
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has told, I think it's fundamental to our awakening of we put too much trust in the power of government,
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2:12:56 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] in the self-governance that our founding fathers wanted us to have. So I'm not sure
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I've addressed all your questions, but I think I've addressed some of them. Thank you, Jerome. Thank
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you, Tom. All right, we'll go to Stephen. Before we do, I just want all of you to know that in
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Melbourne right now it's Monday, Jerome, so as usual the Australians are way ahead of the Americans,
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2:13:23 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction] Tuesday of November, which is presidential election time,
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and mayoral race voting and midterms, blah blah, but the first Tuesday of the month since
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1863 or thereabouts has been the running of the Melbourne Cup, and there is a public holiday in
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Melbourne to honour this great race tomorrow and Saturday, which was the start of the spring racing
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carnival for a week, beautiful sunshine, magnificent day, 23 degrees Celsius, and right now the day
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before the Cup it's pissing rain and there's going to be a very wet track and hopefully the
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rain will clear by the time of the race, but it's a big deal for those of you who love horse racing.
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Well, I've actually attended the Melbourne Cup once. I was there. I got to participate in it
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once years ago. Wonderful, wonderful. Yes. It's a big deal. And I was staying at that time at the
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union club in Sydney, and I went over to Melbourne and went to the Cup. Brilliant decision.
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Yes, it was. All right, Stephen, last couple of questions. We've got 10 or 12 minutes to go.
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2:14:36 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction]ions for you and then we'll finish up. And those who have got the time go over
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2:14:40 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction]ephen? Oh, sorry, Charles.
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2:14:48 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction], while you're thinking, Stephen, I've got one other question I meant to ask Jerome,
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and I'm very concerned that Robert Prevost, currently Pope Leo XIV, is also a fan of
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Pope Francis's No National Borders strategy. Could you comment on that while Stephen's?
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Yes, he's also on the LGBT agenda. He's just Francis Light. He's agreed with the whole agenda.
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They put him in there so he wouldn't be so confrontational. But he is 100% on the agenda.
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He had LGBT with a rainbow cross come in and do a celebration in St. Peter's Cathedral.
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Yeah. Okay. So it's good to know everybody, Francis Light, and I'm opposed to, therefore,
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2:15:34 --> 2:15:[privacy contact redaction]ephen, over to you. Yeah, sorry, Charles. I just went to make a
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cup of coffee. I thought Tom would be a bit longer than he was. So.
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Oh, Tom's been very disciplined. Well done, Tom.
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Ah, good. Yeah. So, Jerome, I think there are many things I could ask you about, but I think
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one thing that I think that's important. And so Rob McCoy was our guest recently. I was
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but obviously his death brought it to my attention. I've been kind of following it and
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I can see why they would be afraid of him. So, but Rob McCoy, he's very modest. He's,
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you know, he's referred to by Charlie Kirk as his pastor. And he wouldn't shift that,
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um, apparently. So, but it seems that the pastor, Rob McCoy, his, he's very modest,
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but he does admit he doesn't contradict, shall we say, if I suggest to him that he was the one
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2:16:50 --> 2:16:[privacy contact redaction]ing spirituality, if you like, through God and
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religion, you know, Christian values with politics. And it's, so I just find it amazing that
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2:17:08 --> 2:17:[privacy contact redaction]ood that that was important. So in the UK, for example,
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you wouldn't go to church because you can't see a single leader in the church who you'd want to
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2:17:18 --> 2:17:[privacy contact redaction]en to in a sermon and certainly not the Archbishop of Canterbury. So, um, so these people
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are kind of useful idiots in the sense that they seem to have been put in positions of power in the
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2:17:32 --> 2:17:[privacy contact redaction] from this, their humanity, if you like, their Christian values,
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their moral compass, and essentially destroy their souls. And the church doesn't seem to have any
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2:17:51 --> 2:17:[privacy contact redaction]ood this, but Charlie Kirk did understand that, it seems. But he, he was actually,
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2:17:58 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]ed to Charlie Kirk by Rob McCoy that he needed to talk about the politics,
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2:18:05 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction] about, you know, God and the church. And so, um, I wonder whether you've got any comments
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on that, Jerome? Well, yes, you're correct that, I mean, McCoy was a big influence to get Charlie
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2:18:20 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]and that it's important from the pulpit to talk about politics, the issues of politics.
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It's crazy when you think of it that nobody else had come up with this, that you can't just talk
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about spirituality and God, and if you don't point out why it's important in the context of what
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2:18:39 --> 2:18:[privacy contact redaction]e are living through at the time. Yeah, there's, there are others in the, um, other pastors who are
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on the same theme. It is, it has become a, a much more debated issue in the last 10 years, and
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the advocacy for the separation of church and state, meaning you can't talk about politics,
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that idea is under challenge, severe challenge. And so there are ministries that are promoting,
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you know, the black robe ministry, which admires the American Revolutionary War pastors who
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had their uniforms on underneath their priestly robes, and they would take their robes off after
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a sermon and go out and fight a battle. So, you know, the, the whole idea that, you know,
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2:19:33 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction] unto Caesar, the things that are Caesar's, well, that does not mean that
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2:19:38 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction], for instance, in his ministry was actively talking about many political issues,
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2:19:44 --> 2:19:[privacy contact redaction]in and others were clearly political.
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So the separation has been artificial to... Well, or has it been actually created?
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Yes. They've deliberately taken the churches away from the people. That's the whole point of the
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beginning in the, you know, 1940s and reading Jefferson's letter about separation of church
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2:20:08 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction]ly from what Jefferson meant it to be. And to say that, you know, the realm of,
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2:20:16 --> 2:20:[privacy contact redaction] no presence of God whatsoever would be a foreign idea to our founders.
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And that has been intentionally contrived, I believe. I wrote a book on that called Bad
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Samaritans, which was intentionally designed in order to take God out of schools, out of families,
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out of morality, out of politics. And that's, that's, that's a serious mistake.
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Oh, absolutely. It's a huge mistake. So it's only recently that I've understood how important that
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was and, and how, I mean, maybe in America it's slightly different, you know, in the Southern
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States in particular, but, but I'm even there, you know, I've watched some services online
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and there's no mention of politics. They think... Also it's reinforced by the tax-exempt status
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2:21:13 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction]s, they're always threatening a church that's too political,
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is going to lose its tax-exempt status. So a lot of the ministry are chilled from raising issues.
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2:21:24 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction] a congregation that's going to be offended in any way. So again...
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Wasn't that the strength of Turning Point? Wasn't that why they made such progress?
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2:21:34 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction]ually they were making the church relevant to the solutions, to the evil.
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2:21:40 --> 2:21:[privacy contact redaction]e. He was willing to let them
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engage in a debate in which he confronted their ideas. And so that was also the, I mean,
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the two things about Charlie Kirk that distinguished him were one is he, his faith was
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political. And number two, that he wanted to debate those who disagreed with him rather than
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2:22:04 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction] dismiss them. Because he believed that he could undermine their ideas by exposing the lies
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and the things that don't work and expose the underlying agenda. And he was very effective at
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Oh, he was exceptionally good at that. I don't think I've ever seen anybody able to converse
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2:22:26 --> 2:22:[privacy contact redaction]etely on the opposite end of the... and remain kind of reasonable.
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He remained civil. He remained patient. He remained polite. We did it exactly the right way.
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I don't think I'd be able to do that, Jerome. Would you?
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I could, but it would be, it'd have to be very disciplined.
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You'd have to go into it.
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Can you love your enemy? You know, Trump says he can't. Who was it he said, oh, he said that
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Charlie Kirk could.
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The sense of loving your enemies comes from realization that fighting them makes you stronger.
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They're really not to your detriment. They're to your advantage to cope with them.
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Absolutely. Yeah. If you don't let them kill you.
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If you don't let them, if they don't kill you, they make you stronger.
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2:23:12 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]ly. And they make you a lot stronger as well.
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I've certainly experienced that myself.
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2:23:20 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction], Jerome, thank you so much for coming to talk to us.
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You're a real sage and we appreciate you.
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2:23:30 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]easure.
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2:23:32 --> 2:23:[privacy contact redaction]easure and honor to be with you. So thank you.
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Everybody show your cameras and give Jerome a round of applause.
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Excellent job.
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Great.
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Thank you.
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You're actually improving with time, Jerome.
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Getting older, Stephen.
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Thank you, Stephen.
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All right, everybody. Well done.
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Thank you.
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God bless. Bye bye.
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Go over to the Tom Rodman group. We'll finish this recording and we'll see you next time.
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Thanks, Stephen.
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And thank you for helping us out tonight, Jerome.
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Oh, just real quick, guys, I found a link.
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It's on the kingship of Christ and Catholic social teaching to try and help clarify
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how that's different from this concept of separation of church and state.
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But it all has to go back to acknowledging that Jesus Christ is King of all creation.
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So I'll just leave it there. You guys can read it and absorb it.
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And also don't forget, Juliet Engel has a YouTube video.
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It's in the chat with several other victims and survivors of the human trafficking that
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2:24:34 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction]ed to. And that's going to be in about 15, maybe 14 hours from now.
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So I put the link again in here as well for you guys.
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Thanks, Harriet.
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All right, Daria, did you like McCoy's presentation?
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2:24:52 --> 2:24:[privacy contact redaction]n't gone through it all yet because I was uncomfortable with his background,
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especially after hearing some of the reporting that Candace Owens did.
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And apparently she's actually coined this term Operation Mockingpastor.
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So you really don't know who is weaponizing the pulpit for either a political or globalist agenda.
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And sometimes it's a little more blatant, like with the leftists and the stuff that Pope Leo is
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2:25:21 --> 2:25:[privacy contact redaction] not long ago here was about the fact that,
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and it doesn't have to do with tax exempt status for the pope as much as how much money is he
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Come on, come on. That's a whole wonderful, that's a whole topic.
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It's a two and a half hour conversation.
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2:25:41 --> 2:25:[privacy contact redaction], that's as far as that goes. Yeah, that's sorry. I hope I answered your question,
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but yeah, I'm not very comfortable with weaponizing the pulpit.
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All right.
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Thank you, everybody.
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But Rob McCoy did achieve one thing. He got Charlie Kirk thinking about politics in the
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context of the spirituality and the knowledge of, yeah, and that was very important.
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And again, and Charlie put it in the context of the social kingship of Christ the King,
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and that's really where it goes back to. And when leaders were in medieval times, let's say,
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Come on, come on, come on. Stop, we're leaving. Go on and talk with Tom Rodman on the video
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telegram meeting. We're stopping this meeting. Lovely to have you all.
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2:26:28 --> 2:26:[privacy contact redaction]ay was All Saints Day. Thank you, everybody.
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Thanks, everybody. Bye bye.
