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This computer. So welcome everybody to medical doctors for
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COVID ethics, international interesting things happening.
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I was going to say, I actually think I don't know whether other
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description of what we're going to do rather than but it maybe
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should be shorter than it was, because it was rather long. And
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that's no criticism of you. There's a lot to say, but that's
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my personal opinion. I don't know what others would say. But
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observed, Stephen, some people saying I'm sick of listening to
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welcome in a shortened format to welcome people to the group
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today. This group was founded in [privacy contact redaction], with a
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desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health. I'm
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a lawyer for 20 years, but then for 30 years, an educator and 11
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years, a legal strategist helping people whose children
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were damaged by vaccines before the COVID jabs arrived. There
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are lots of profession, many professions here. And we're from
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all around the world. And that expands as the viewers who are
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welcome. And we asked that you show your name on the screen so
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we know who you are. If you publish a newsletter or a
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book, put the links in the chat so we can follow you promote you
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and find you. We meet twice weekly at least most of us
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we're in a continuation of World War Two. So this meeting runs
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for two and a half hours after which for those of you with time
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Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting Tom puts the links into
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the chat if you're able to join. We will listen to our guest Scott
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Jensen for as long as he wishes to speak, which he suggests is
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20 minutes, he can be with us for an hour. So we'll have 40
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minutes of Q&A. And Stephen Frost asks the first series of
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environment. Free speech is crucial. Crucially important in
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our fight to preserve our human freedoms. So the other issue I
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wanted to raise with you is if you're offended by anything that
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limited and talking about offense overnight Barry
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Humphries died. Well known all around the world Australia's
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men are men and women are women. So with the world that we live
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not fear. Fear is the opposite of love. So if you have a
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rumble channel and they're welcome to our guests presenters
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Scott since I think, you know, in the early days, they were
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attacking you and I thought, go Scotty Jensen. So it's great to
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have you and thank you again, Stephen Frost for creating this
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group and for organizing Scott to be with us today. So Scott,
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No, only that we're very grateful to you, Scott for coming
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on. And we're very sorry as well that you've been subject to five
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dreadful. And if we can support you in any way, please let us
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know. We know we're in contact with just about everybody all
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over the world who you know, you know, and we know. So we can put
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Thank you. And thanks so much for having me join your
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conversation. Obviously, I would like to keep my comments as
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pertinent as possible because I think we've all been doing our
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homework. We've been paying attention. And I think we're all
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get here? I sometimes think of that movie about 2025 years ago,
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The Truman Show. And I feel like my life has sort of become like
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The Truman Show. I'm, I'm sort of being studied and evaluated
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by by everyone. And, and many of the people that are my greatest
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ever thought that my life would go in the path I've gone just to
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give you a little bit of background on me. I'm a small
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town kid. I grew up in a little town in southern Minnesota. I
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was middle child of five. My mom was my best friend. My dad was
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had three brothers. I went to a public school. I went to the
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enjoyed much of that, but I didn't really enjoy the teeth. So
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I left them went to the seminary and then in the seminary, I made
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the decision to go into medicine. I also asked my
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girlfriend if she'd marry me and we've been together 45 years.
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Mary has been the jewel of my life. She's a veterinarian and
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are physicians and my son is a lawyer, but we love them just as
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Senate in 2016 because I was recruited to do so. It wasn't on
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years and I thought that I'd made an adequate contribution to
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I finally said, Yeah, okay, I'll do it. Well, that was incredibly
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successful. I ended up getting more votes than any other
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32%, I guess. And two things happened when I was in the
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that was important. I was able to carve out common ground and
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work from there. In 2019, I had seven bills that I was the chief
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author on that I was able to get to the Senate floor. And every
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one of those seven bills asked unanimously, with all the votes
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coming from both Republicans and Democrats. And it was because I
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had gone to both sides of the aisle and I talked to people and
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was reasonable. In 2019, my my wife had some health issues
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arise. And so we made the decision together that I would
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one term, four year stint in the Senate was going to be enough.
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Then COVID hit, obviously, in March of 2020. I had no idea that
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I was going to become identified as some major league whistleblower.
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All I did was read the emails that came from the Department of
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Health in Minnesota. And I clicked on the link that they
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provided to go to the CDC's information. And collectively,
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the Minnesota Department of Health and the Center for Disease
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Control were telling physicians, we're adjusting the way we're
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going to do death certificates during COVID. And they went on
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to talk about two things. One is, if you think it's reasonable,
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put it down as a cause of death. But more concerning to me was
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the specific comments that were made in regards to contributing
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conditions. And basically, the Department of Health advised me
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and all the physicians that if we felt COVID-19 had been a
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contributing condition to the death, that we could go ahead and
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put it down as the cause of death. I protested. I said, no,
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says contributing conditions. And that's where you put
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contributing conditions. This email from the Department of
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Health said, if it's emphysema, if it's asthma, go ahead and put
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COVID, then go ahead and put it in the cause of death line. And
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this is wrong. Because if you follow the CDC's instructions to
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when someone dies is to, the best of our ability, try to
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a person's demise. That initiating event is the
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underlying cause of death. Let's just take an example. If I have
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a heart attack tomorrow, and a month from now, we learned that
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the heart attack was so severe, and so much muscle was taken out
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of commission, and I developed congestive heart failure. And
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over the next six months, we find that my situation is
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decision to go on hospice and say my goodbyes and recognize
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this death certificate should read is that my underlying
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cause of death was coronary artery disease, which led to
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heart attack, which led to congestive heart failure.
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That's what the underlying cause of death should be. In the
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contributing conditions box, a physician could put COVID-19
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possibly or something like that. But the bottom line is the
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underlying cause of death, that process that brought me to
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hospice with a ready acknowledgement that I was going
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to pass was coronary artery disease. And to record it as
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COVID-19 is going to corrupt the value of the disease registrar
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that we keep. Virtually every country keeps a disease
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realize what you're doing here, but this is not what we should
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be doing. I was a sitting senator at the time, I was the
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vice chair of Health and Human Services. And I got absolutely
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no response from the Department of Health. I ended up
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mentioning this email from the Department of Health and these
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went wild. All of a sudden, I became very familiar with Laura
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Ingram, and I started to get invited to a lot of different
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Carlson, Rush Limbaugh came to my defense. But the bottom line
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was, from the Department of Health in Minnesota, I got
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nothing until two months later. I was identified and notified
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been the family physician of the year in Minnesota in 2016. I've
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been the recipient of a Bush Fellowship Award. I was a
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me. But what shocked me even more was I did not get to know
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who my accusers were. They remained anonymous. And I was
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advised that I had been giving reckless information regarding
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COVID because I had been willing to compare COVID viral infections
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decided I should be able to do this without an attorney. So I
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prepared a 70-page response with articles, amendments and
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addendums, a six-page personalized response from me as
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to what I was thinking, when I said what I said. And a month
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later, the allegations were dismissed. But then a month later,
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responded, they came back and said the allegations are
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dismissed. I had about a six-month break and then I got a
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said in this situation, they said a third investigation has
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and we've dismissed the allegations. So in this third
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significant in the future for me. Fourth investigation came
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through and I responded and it was dismissed. And then in
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November of 2021, the fifth investigation was initiated.
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This time, I responded and that wasn't good enough. The board
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indicated that I had treated a handful of patients with
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Health on their webpage had changed their position
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the recommendation and said they could not determine whether
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was in vitro evidence that it was helpful, potentially
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might reduce mortality and length of hospitalization. In
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2022, it's noteworthy that the NIH reversed the 2021 position
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and in 2022, recommended against using. But getting back to the
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December of 2021 and then for the next 13 months, I heard
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to be the governor of Minnesota, a state of almost six
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Democrat governor. During the course of that campaign, I was
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painted as an extreme individual who was being investigated
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later, the Department of the Minnesota Board of Medical
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through the Attorney General's office that my response did not
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provide them the necessary information for them to dismiss
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Facebook, in person, and recorded. I was allowed an in-person
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conference. I was not allowed a copy of the recording they made.
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conversation that was intense and at times, fractious. Then
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there was a 15 to 20-minute recess and then we went back and
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reconvened and in a very truncated manner, the chair of
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dismissed outright, the case was closed, and I could leave.
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You can imagine I felt good about that. My license was, if
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you will, no longer in question, at least for the time being.
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But this also was that moment in my life where I realized that
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I couldn't be done. I could not just breathe a sigh of relief and
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say, hallelujah, I'm glad that's over. I would be a fool if I
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thought that there won't be another investigation. What will
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I say next that someone might not like? If I tell you that a
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cotton mask has an 18% filtration ratio, so wearing a
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cotton mask or even wearing three of them will not
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necessarily prevent you from acquiring COVID-19, if I say that
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and you don't like it, are you going to be able to initiate
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like my politics, who don't like my free speech? So I made the
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decision that we're going to sue the attorney general in the
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state of Minnesota as well as the Minnesota Board of Medical
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speech on one side and professional conduct as it
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speech, particularly as a sitting senator and as a
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ultimately proves to not be accurate. So that's sort of where
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we're sitting right now. Over the last three days, we took the
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initiative to utilize crowdfunding as a funding
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mechanism for our lawsuit. Within the next four weeks, we
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slash Scott Jensen page, we've received $125,000. I've been
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incredibly grateful. We've had not a couple of big donors, but
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going to give 50 bucks, I'm going to give 500 or I'm going
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to get 5000. But where we're at right now is if I don't do
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something more than what I've done so far, then I'm really not
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standing up for the pub owner who has to have a permit from
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their bathrooms and their kitchen. I wouldn't be standing
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place of business permitted, licensed. I wouldn't be standing
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across the world. Anybody who labors or whose livelihood is
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governed by a regulatory agency, a licensing authority, a
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permitting process, any of these folks, if it can happen to me,
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it could happen to them. And these folks may not have all
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that I had at their disposal. I mean, I had tools that not
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everybody has. I'm a physician in good standing. I've had a
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wonderful career. I was in the Senate. I was a legitimate
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candidate for governor of Minnesota. I had over a million
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gubernatorial candidate had ever raised in the state of
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you're in the position you're in for such a time as this? At
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some level, Steven, I have to believe that part of the reason
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we're having this conversation together on a Sunday is because
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for so many of us, for such a time as this is exactly why
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we're together. Four years ago, we never would have thought
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this could happen. Never. So what's my story? Why am I this
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notorious rebel, this renegade, this extreme individual? Well,
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I think it's accurate to say that I've always been a skeptic.
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I was raised in my household. My dad was a lawyer and a judge.
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We were raised to be skeptical. In the world of medicine, I
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learned early on that I need to be skeptical of big pharma. I
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need to be skeptical of the person who says I have the
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answers and no one else does. I need to be skeptical of the
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research articles I read. I don't know if you remember the
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skepticism. To a degree more. You might remember the words of
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falsely believe they are free. These giants are telling us, be
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skeptical. I was. And for my skeptical narrative that I put
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out there, I paid a price. I think I've been courageous, but I
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without fear. I would disagree. I think courage is being brave
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to lose my license. I don't want to put my family through
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ridicule. But courage was required. I think a part of the
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reason that I'm here as well is because I had access to
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information that not everybody had. I know how to read
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medical journals. I receive 10, 20, 30 journals a month. I was
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in the Senate and I was vice chair of the Health and Human
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Services Committee. So I had access to data that was coming
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across the desk. I had access to the Commissioner of the
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Department of Health every day when I was there. When you have
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access to information, I think you have an obligation to put
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it out there. And I think I recognized the reality of the
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reality. It's almost like theater. And then there's the
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real reality where we think for ourselves. There's a story in
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know if you've heard this story, but there's a fellow
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named David Lodge. He's a playwright, a British playwright.
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And on Friday, November 22nd, 1963, David Lodge was at a
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play, an actor comes out onto the stage with the radio,
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bebop and some music while he's presenting for a job interview.
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stand ready for the job interview. Everybody's watching
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until all of a sudden that music coming through that radio
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we interrupt this program to report that the president of
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Quickly, that actor shut off the radio. But the world of
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couldn't go back. The audience was aghast and the play actors
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to build. That's what happened in COVID-19. There's a staged
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reality. There's a narrative we're all supposed to buy into.
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And we're saying, no, people like you, you're puncturing that
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balloon of theatrical reality. That's why we're here. At some
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level, we don't get to ignore that information that we have
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I think it was Martin Kuhldorf and Jay Budachara and I think
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Dr. Gupta wrote the Great Barrington Declaration. That
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the Great Barrington Declaration. But that's one of the things
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that has to happen and that's why we're here together today.
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And then I think the other thing that I'm doing is I have
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recognized, partly because I was in the Senate, partly because
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I ran for governor, partly because I've been an everyday
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of you folks face to face in person, but I feel at some level
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we share a certain bond of brotherhood. And we know that we
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We've seen what happened in Australia and we're horrified to
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we've seen. But we have not stopped engaging. We've engaged
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with one another. And right now I made that decision. I am going
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80% or more of our major newspapers in the United States
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lean left. As far as I'm concerned, big tech has worked
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side by side with government to censor, suppress, and squash too
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look like in terms of my professional conduct as it relates
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skeptic. It's been about courage. It's been about access
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to information. It's been about recognizing the reality in which
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we live. And it has been about engaging at all levels,
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legislative levels, the courts with states, nations across the
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every turn, rehash all the things that were done wrong over the
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called on. I can talk to you about the damage and lack of
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science that went in to policies that locked down businesses and
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locked kids out of schools and locked nursing home patients into
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their facilities, even though that facility had been infested
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nursing home population, particularly in America, especially
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in Minnesota, where we had nursing home frail patients die
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alone without the touch of a loved one. When I think of the
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could flatten the curve and not overwhelm health care facilities,
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I scoff at that advice. I think of the mandates and the masks. I
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think of the models. I think of so much of this, and it breaks my
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heart. When I think of the epidemic of fear, when I think of
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wrongheadedness of what we said about transmission, about
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tracing, about tracking, about testing. When I think of PCR
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at that point in time, all you're doing is catching dead
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nucleotides. It grieves me. When I think of our immunization
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themselves, when I think of the way we bash natural immunity,
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acting as if it was some edgy sort of out there, biologic
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concept when it's been around for thousands of years. When I
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on, when I think of the sacrifices we asked our soldiers
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to make, when I think of the way the American public health
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scene scoffed at European nations in regards to
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of these areas became labs literally that we could learn
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from. Okay, I found this on the web. But anyway, these are the
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things that are on my mind. But today, what I'd like to do is
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you've heard my story. I wrote a book over the last two years.
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The book is called We've Been Played, Exposing the Triad of
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Tyranny. I don't think we could have been played without the
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triad of big tech and big pharma and big government polluting
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together. I think that government has expanded so rapidly
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and intruded into our private lives so recklessly that it
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could only happen with a certain intentional collusion. And I
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don't think that makes me a conspiracy theorist. My book is
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we've been played and patients have become pawns. But what I'd
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like to do now, Stephen, if it's okay with you is I've told you
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see the Facebook and see the new data, because we have access to
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information and we're trying to be responsible and put that out
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there. But I think there's so much value in conversations where
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generally learn so much. So those are my comments. I
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Excellent, Scott. Congratulations on your courageous stand. And
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we're honored to have you and Stephen. First questions go to
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Stephen Scott, and then we've got other hands up. So we've got
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a we've got Scott for about another 25 minutes, it seems to
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me, Stephen, and everybody. So we'll be tight for questions and
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go, Stephen.
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Hmm. Well, I might have difficulty. But anyway, so Scott,
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thank you very much for that brilliant speech. If that was
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what it was, it was a speech, I think. And I, there's so I've
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made so many notes, I can't read them all. And so that's not I
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the end that you think it's deliberate, I absolutely agree,
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was not deliberate. And worse than that, I think that
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government set about psychologically torturing their
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excuse anybody. It doesn't mean that people are stupid for
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there, I think. So in the United Kingdom, we have the nudge
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unit, which is very, very important in this whole story. I
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don't, I'm not aware of other countries which have an
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United Kingdom, they were freely talking about the nudge
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amazing. There were, I cannot remember, I asked people to try
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beginning to end. It's absolutely outrageous what has
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of the Nuremberg trials, where seven doctors after being tried
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at Nuremberg were hanged on the 2nd of June 1948, for human
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medical experimentation. And this was human medical
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human medical experimentation should definitely have a view on
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political alliance. And we've been here before, there, if you
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like, before with the medical political alliance, we had the
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Second World War. And before the Second World War, doctors were
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engaging in this kind of nonsense. We were taught at
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medical school, I was taught at medical school. And I know my
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0:39:41 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]or has the right to a medical opinion without proving
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far as I'm concerned, is all about medical ethics, medical
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0:40:01 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]n't been talked about by the courts, by the media,
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0:40:05 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ors. That's the center of this. You cannot practice
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medicine, in my opinion, without medical ethics. This was well
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taught to us when I was at medical school. So what has
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0:40:16 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ors? Because I can't find
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anybody in North Wales, where I live in the United Kingdom, who
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remembers about medical ethics. So I was talking about informed
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consent. And nobody knew what I was talking about, it seemed.
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0:40:32 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction] wondered what you think. I'm
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sorry to be so I'm outraged by what has happened. I've we, you,
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Scott and I, and everybody on this call has been
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psychologically tortured by our own governments. And until we
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0:40:49 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]and that, and that we all are in different stages,
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0:40:52 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ockholm syndrome, we will
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never get to the bottom of what has happened to us in the last
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three years. And why is that important? Because we need to
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don't want to make your court case more difficult than it is.
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But I do want to offer you all the experts we have access to,
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expert witnesses, potential expert witnesses. And if you
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wanted to do that, if your lawyers wanted to do it, you
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Let me let me jump in there. I'm going to disagree with you
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right off the bat on the issue of ethics. I think the problem
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decisions being made, but they're being made by a very
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that came out, particularly from the United States, was from
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0:41:58 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction]e like Deborah Birx, who said, well, you know,
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you don't die with it, you die of it. We look at Tony Fauci
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have ethics out there, but it's all wrong, because the ethics
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situations, physicians who are served by the status quo. I
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mean, we have a huge issue in America with the maintenance of
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where they live off of the fees and the dues coming from all the
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you call these visits, these trips, and someone else is
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ethics out there, but I think we have the wrong people giving us
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the ethics. We don't have the patient, the patient who wants
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0:43:03 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]in, or what about an anti inflammatory? What about
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monolukes? What about antihistamines? What about
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steroids? I'm wheezing, I can't breathe. Do I really have to do
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this binary choice, where I either get better on my own, or
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I wait till I'm so damn sick that when I go to the hospital,
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they say, I may well die. We don't have legitimate ethics
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going on, but we have people out there telling us that they're
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out there, but I don't think it's working, because I don't
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think it focuses on the patient. In terms of the Stockholm
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that over and over again. In terms of how do we go forward, I
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think we're on the same page. We have to engage at all levels,
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and that's what we're trying to do. But from my perspective,
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I think we've got this collusion between government,
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tech, pharma, and we have an awful lot of academics. The
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our patients. Our patients feel like they've been abandoned. We
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conversation with me, because I don't want to have that
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conversation with you. That's what's happening. But we should
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I do think that the name is in the group, ethics, so I do
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think that that's important. We were taught at medical school
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that it's up to each individual doctor to know about ethics and
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could be, should be allowed to, sorry, should allow himself or
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So that's the point. So I think that evidence-based medicine
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has been used by big pharma and their allies in this nonsense
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to produce, to tell doctors that you have to do it like this. No,
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0:45:10 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]ors don't do that. We were taught that at medical school.
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It's very important to have medical doctors thinking
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independently. The only thing that medical doctors need to
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think about, we were taught at medical school, was the patient
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in front of them. Absolutely. I agree with you completely.
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And I think that the patient needs to tell doctors what to do.
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Let's move on to some other questions, because there's a lot
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of hands up. Thank you. Go ahead, someone. Steven, do you want
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to moderate? Okay, Randy.
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I know it's good. Charles. Yep. Charles, it's up.
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Okay, Randy.
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Thank you, Charles. And thank you, Scott. I guess we call you Scott
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for coming to talk to us. I've gotten that from, I've watched
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you several times. I like your extremism, extremism. We need to
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have more like that in the authorities or those that think
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there are authorities. I watched your first video about the death
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certificates in that same week. And I think that's a good
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thing, in that same week that you had that. And I had the same
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ICD-10 codes, well, nine codes at the time, and incentive
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payments. It looked suspicious to me. My question is, what did
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you no longer believe, and maybe pick out one of the ways that
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we've been played that we can use that may resonate with our
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friends?
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That's a wonderful question. Thank you for asking that. About
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eight years ago, I wrote my first book called Relationship
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Matters. And what that book was about was individual patient
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0:47:03 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ure that was going on
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0:47:06 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ors, and how patients were feeling
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0:47:09 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ems. But to get to your
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0:47:15 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ion, what is it that, what jewel, because I love being a
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0:47:20 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]or. I mean, I was in dental school first time in the
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0:47:23 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ors who told my kids, go be a
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0:47:27 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]or. It's the best darn life. I feel like I've had the chance
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to be sort of a Marcus Welby kind of guy. But so, re-COVID 2019
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to now, what do I think we lost? I think somehow, that intense
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experience that I had in medical school in my residency called
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Grand Rounds, where we would get together as physicians and
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banter about a patient's presentation, history, physical
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medications, diagnostic tests, labs, imaging, and we would put
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that together. And when we work that situation over trying to
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that patient, we were not about holding hands and singing
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kumbaya. We were relentlessly pushing forward what we thought
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0:48:15 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] And we got to. And someone would come up with an
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idea where all of a sudden, you know, your point is a good one.
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I didn't realize that. But we had conversations that existed
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within the boundaries of civility, but didn't have to be
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pandering. Today, I think we've lost that. Today, I have people
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coming after me who I've never met, physicians who I know of
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their reputation. They've never met me. They've never even
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called me. I've called them. And they are on social media,
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0:48:49 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] no basis for
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this, they never bothered to call me and say, Scott, did you
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say that? I think we've lost that ability within the
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colleagues of medicine to disagree with one another, and
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to keep going. And I think part of it is because we have these
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artificial claims about science, we get this ridiculous
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statement by Tony Fauci saying that if you don't follow him,
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you're not following science. I think most of us have a base
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0:49:26 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]anding that science is at one level, it's about
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observing. It's about hypothesizing. It's about
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measuring them, trying to come up with an experiment to prove
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or disprove my hypothesis. That's what we've always been
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about. But it seems like if we elevate that, we say, well,
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0:49:48 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]en, these masks that I'm being told to wear, people are
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still getting the disease, or people are still transmitting
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the disease. We couldn't even have that conversation. All of
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a sudden, we were we were being vilified for being a number one
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senator called me beyond irresponsible. And I did dinner
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with the guy. And I thought, what does that mean? Beyond
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irresponsible, because I'm questioning the efficacy of a
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18% filtration capability. How did we get to be so to me,
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that's, that's the thing that we've lost that I treasured the
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0:50:30 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] And I've told my both my daughters, I don't think we're
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going to get it back in my lifetime. I think physicians have
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0:50:40 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] been weapon used as a weapon
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And you know, as well as I do that when a rubber band is
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stretched beyond its normal capacity, it never returns to
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Thanks, Brandon. Gonna keep going. Glenn, Glenn McCarty.
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Hi, how are you glad to meet you. I'm mine's gonna touch on
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spiritual and legislative. So hold on.
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Glad.
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The spiritual side. I'm part of a group that fleet field is
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specifically from a biblical viewpoint, the ninth amendment,
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as well as Ezekiel 33 and 37. So the ninth commandment is that
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thou shalt not bear fault with witness. And a lot of people
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believe, well, it's okay, as long as I wasn't directly doing
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the harm, I can sort of see it. And that's not, I don't think
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what was meant by it in the biblical sense. And so
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specifically, our group is wondering if you'd be willing to
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work with us to, to present a somewhat of a summary or a mini
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sermon on what the population could do to in fact, properly
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follow the ninth commandment and and come forward with the
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falsehoods going on, and that they can bring truth forward.
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Well, thank you. And as I mentioned, I was in the seminary
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me, they call me 414. Because I've told people, well, chapter
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four, verse [privacy contact redaction] in my life over
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0:52:30 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction] four years. And they say, well, in what book? And I
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said, well, many of them, I said, go to Exodus 414, it'll
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say, and God's anger smolder. And that was when Moses was
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declining the job offer God was giving him and say, hey, I don't
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really think I'm up to the task. Let's have that my brother
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Aaron do it, he could do it better. And then you go to Esther
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414, and you read about for such a time as this. And then you
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go to John 414, where it talks about, but he who drinks of the
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spring into a well of eternal life. And then you go to Hebrews
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414, which is why I think we're all on this program together,
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sir. And that says, hold fast to the beliefs you profess. So
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0:53:16 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ive, my spirituality weighs heavily in
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0:53:20 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction] three years. But I'm also
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And we're all on the same page. So I've been hesitant to move
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0:53:36 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]y into the religious realm, per se, because to me,
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this whole thing, the real victim in what's going on is not
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here is the patient, the person who needs healing, the person
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who's suffering from depression, anxiety, perhaps an unchecked
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cancer, congestive heart failure. I think if we want to
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get back to what we should be doing, religious persuasion aside,
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0:54:08 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] to focus on the patient. And I don't think we
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are. I think patients feel more like a pawn than they have in
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my 40 years of medicine. So I appreciate very much your
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0:54:19 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]ive and to utilize your faith based
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background to bring to the fore those vital issues that need
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to be raised up and elevated. But for me, I'm sort of trying
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to go the path now of I'm going to go through the legal channels.
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I'm going to the courts and I'm going to say patients have been
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0:54:39 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] me as their doctor and courageous
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on their behalf, because my courage has been less because I
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don't want to lose my license. And my patients know that there
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are times where in the office, I've had to be political about
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my license. And yet, I also think that I am in the position
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I'm in for just such a time as this. And I do have an obligation
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personal harm. So every day I'm walking that balance. But in
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terms of getting involved in religion, I speak to churches of
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all backgrounds at different times. But thank you for what
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you're doing. I appreciate it very much.
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All right, just one other comment. And that's that right
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0:55:33 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] part of as part of our program, we're going
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under the brother name of Humanity Coalition. And our theme
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are guilty, they can step away, lead their companies that
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where they're they're complicit with that activity, or become a
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0:55:51 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]leblower. And, and we're specifically aligned with Warner
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Mendenhall as a lawyer in a legal firm to for them to submit
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0:56:01 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]s. Thank you. Thank you. God bless you.
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Thank you, sir. One follow up comment, I just want to make
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someone mentioned health freedom, and I'm a huge advocate
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for health freedom. But when I think of health freedom, I always
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think of four A's and the word ICE. And the four A's for me in
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terms of health freedom, you have to have access, it has to
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be available, it has to be affordable, and it has to be
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accountable. And right now, if you look at what we did over the
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0:56:38 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction] ICE ICE, there has to be informed consent. And
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informed consent is not determined by a form or a
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reasonable decision. And then the C in the word ICE has got to
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0:56:54 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]ates, so much
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0:56:57 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction] Patients have been traced,
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0:57:02 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction] their will without their knowledge. There
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is no confidentiality in the healthcare world of Minnesota
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0:57:09 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ates today as there was. And the E, the E
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stems from the phrase in America, e pluribus unum, out of
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many one. I get it. In caring for an individual, there may be
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family, the pharmacist, the doctor, the nurse, all of these
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0:57:34 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]akeholders, there has to be
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one that is privileged to champion the healthcare. And
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insurance companies, our HMOs, our accountable care
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organizations, all of these fancy ways to somehow minimize
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the patient's wants, it is absolutely devastated the
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patient's ability to be their own best champion. Patients
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don't even realize sometimes what they're railing against.
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But that's what it is. They feel like it's out of control, and
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they don't get to choose. And they're they're horrified to
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0:58:12 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ion. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you,
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Glenn. Mark. Mark. Hi, Scott. Have you been in touch with Trey
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Gowdy? I do not know Trey Gowdy personally. I have followed
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him closely when he decided to not run for reelection. I
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thought, what a loss for those hard conversations. I will
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never forget the ability for Trey Gowdy to just land one of
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with the answer. But I don't have his personal information.
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I'll be glad to give all of you my email right now. And if you
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0:59:01 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] me with Trey Gowdy, I would I would
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0:59:04 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] certainly been on in contact with Jordan
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Peterson and Peter McCall. And my email is smj2203 at gmail.com.
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And I'll just give that to you one more time. It's smj as in
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Scott Michael Jensen smj2203 at gmail.com. And if you'd like to
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correspond with me, I'd sure welcome that. Thank you very
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much. Thank you. Thank you.
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Catherine.
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Hello. Thanks for being here, Scott. It's really great
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0:59:38 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e here. I listened to the
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0:59:42 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] time you talked about the death certificates and
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it's a really powerful thing that you did there just simply
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telling the truth. So what I'm here to ask you is about a
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month ago, there was a COVID litigation conference put on by
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Warner Mendenhall, as Glenn mentioned earlier, and I'm
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working with him on a number of different things. But one of
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the things that I'm working on him with is facilitating
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communication between attorneys and experts and victims after
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that conference to, you know, get things moving. One of the
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things that has been a great deal of interest to many of
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1:00:21 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]n't yet been activated in the COVID
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1:00:24 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]y because it's so new attorneys tend to be pretty
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1:00:27 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]rse. And we're trying to figure out ways to empower
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1:00:30 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]uff. But there's a lot of interest in defending
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1:00:35 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction] licenses, and how to go about it legislatively,
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legally, even in terms of contractual and all that kind of
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stuff. So one of the things I was doing is arranging for a
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wondering if you'd be willing to join us on that.
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I would, but I would want to put a caveat out there. And
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that's that I know attorney, and I sort of feel like the
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attorney I'm using, I'm using a fellow named Greg Joseph, he's
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my lead attorney, and we're building, we built out a legal
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team now. But he is so much smarter than I am. So I've been
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pretty clear with him. I said, you know, you know my story, and
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you know that anytime you want, you can call me and I'll tell
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1:01:19 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ive is, what I thought I said and all
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that. But I've given 10s of 1000s of comments and speeches
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in the Senate and on the campaign trail. So I've
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1:01:28 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ed with Tom wrens, who's been prominent in the United
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States, and Tom and I have done each other's podcasts, we have
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each other's information. And my attorney, Greg Joseph is
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getting more and more involved with those kinds of, if you
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will, coalitions of the minds. When we file the papers in the
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1:01:47 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction], I'm asking my attorney, Greg Joseph to be as
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transparent as possible, I would like those to be put on social
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media, so the world can consume the discussion and participate
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in what does this mean? How important is this as we weigh
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1:02:05 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]ice? But you have my contact information,
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and I'd be glad to respond. But in terms of joining another
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work group, I would have to decline just because I am still
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1:02:17 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]icing medicine four days a week. All right. Well, thank
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you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Catherine, Theresa from
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also from Wales, Scott. Hi, Scott, I don't know if you can
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1:02:33 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]op my video. I'm tethering to a
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mobile phone. I hear you. Okay. I hear you just. Oh, thank you
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for everything you're doing. My question is, I think it's clear
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to all of us now that the spike protein in the SARS-CoV-2 virus,
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if there is a virus, is the pathogenic part of the virus. And
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it's also the antigen in all eight of the vaccines that were
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brought to market in 2020. I don't think that was a
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1:03:05 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]ease comment on why that might have
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happened? When I was in this, thank you for the question. When I
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was in the Senate, one of the prohibitions we had was we did
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not allow one another to speculate on the motivation of
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another person. So I'm going to have to pass on why that might
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be. But I do want to comment on what you said. I disagree with
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you in that you said, I think we can all recognize or all agree.
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I wish we could. I wish we could all agree that the spike
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protein in and of itself has pathogenicity with it. I think
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there's a lot of physicians in the United States who do not
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recognize that emerging truth, that emerging scientific
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1:03:51 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]anation for so much of what we're seeing, whether you're
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1:03:54 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]-vaccination syndromes in the first 30 days
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or in the next 12 months. I think Peter McCullough has done a
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wonderful job of speaking to that issue. This spike protein
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that's being created by this quoted set of instructions that
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isn't being degraded as quickly as we had been led to believe it
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would be. This is causing horrendous problems because
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bodies naturally tend to deposit it somewhere. We're not going
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to let a given molecule alter our entirely our osmotic
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pressure. We know that we make calculations on sodium,
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potassium, and all of those things that go into our renal
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1:04:39 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]ion based on osmolality. We're not going to have spike
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1:04:44 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]culate willy-nilly without limit. That
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means if we're going to keep producing it, it's going to be
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1:04:51 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]s and we're seeing that. It's unfortunate, I
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think, that we have many physicians who have no idea that
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the spike protein itself is pathogenic. Then when you
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1:05:04 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]em to create antibodies to this
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inundated force of spike protein, how in the world can we
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1:05:12 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] major problems? I wish that we could get that message
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out, but I'm afraid that people have literally shields around
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their brain where they're not letting that thought even become
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a possible consideration that the spike protein itself is the
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problem. I shouldn't say is the problem, is a problem, because I
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don't know that we know. I mean, like for me, when I had COVID,
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I've had it twice. I have antibodies to both the spike
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protein, but I also have antibodies to the nucleocapsid. I
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don't know if we understand completely how this COVID-19
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a big piece of it, but I think that the RNA of the COVID-19 virus
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itself also probably has a few other tricks up its sleeve that
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can cause inflammation, histamines release, spasticity of
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1:06:11 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]iac muscles, and
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1:06:15 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] its unique impacts on the electrical
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1:06:19 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] don't think we know that
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1:06:23 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ion. Thank you. Thanks, Theresa. Cordelia.
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Yeah, hi. It's not so much a question, but a comment. A few
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weeks ago, there was an article in the BMJ, a doctor, a pediatric
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1:06:42 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction], he was suspended for six months for using his wife's
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1:06:48 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]l pass on the London Underground. When I read that, I thought this is
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1:06:54 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] been dealt with by the police or whatever.
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1:06:59 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction] paid a fine or whatever punishment is appropriate,
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1:07:05 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ead, the GMC gets involved and suspends him for six months. I
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thought this is quite a harsh punishment considering it's nothing to
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do with his medical performance, and in fact, all his colleagues supported
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1:07:23 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]rike doctors off or suspend them
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for very little. My theory is that this is to put the fear of God into
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that, but I think the GMC, it's a lot easier for them now to suspend
939
1:07:50 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]rike them off for next to nothing. There has been quite a high
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1:07:55 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]igated and communication was really poor.
941
1:08:05 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]s are profound and the concern you express is huge.
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1:08:12 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] in particular that you articulated really carries your message,
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and that's comply. I think five years from now, when we look back on this,
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we're going to see that so many of the efforts on the part of government,
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public health, pharma, big tech, our licensing authorities, a lot of the efforts were focused
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1:08:40 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] that 50 to 100 of us are having a conversation today,
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arguably, we're not being compliant. We're actually speaking our minds. We're expressing
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our mutual concerns. We're asking how we can address those concerns more effectively.
949
1:09:01 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]iance has been the absolute unspoken target of so much. When we look at social
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1:09:09 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]ancing and we went from a meter to six feet in America, we were being told 32 feet.
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1:09:16 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] doesn't stop. Compliance is something we're going to have to deal with. Going forward,
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if public health can't help societies deal with public health crises without seeming to focus
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1:09:29 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]iance, public health will continue to be destined to
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fail. Because while we may be at times too willing to behave like lemmings marching to the sea,
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1:09:44 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]e across the globe today than we were three years ago. Absolutely.
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Well, imagine a builder being caught on the tube train without a ticket or whatever.
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1:09:57 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] pay his fine. So it's just absurd that the GMC
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gets involved with little things like that because it has absolutely nothing to do with
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1:10:09 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] think it's a deliberate attempt to put the fear of God into
960
1:10:15 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]- I've got five more minutes. Let's get to the other questions if we can. Thank you.
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Thanks, Claudia. Chuck? Five more minutes, we're good.
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Chuck? Okay, then I'll be very brief and I'm just going to read a couple of things. I'm from
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Portland, Oregon, and I've posted in the chat an invitation to the doctors group to
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help us to describe what a liberated medical system looks like. I'm with the Green Liberty
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Caucus, Green Liberty Block. I'm about liberation. And so I'm going to ask Dr. Jensen to just give
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us some highlights from his book on what the key reforms could look like. And that's really kind
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of what I wanted to- and then I'll make a final observation that I am aware that doctors are not
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1:11:11 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] symptoms if they've taken the vaccine or not. That is a
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1:11:19 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ic inquiry that docs are not doing. That is just a scandal
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upon scandals and it's- we're in cognitive dissonance. I posted a link to Fran Schur's
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essays from the A&E for Architects. So how do we liberate from big pharma?
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Chuck? Okay, so some people have posted in the chat that they're having trouble purchasing the
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1:11:47 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]scottsjensenbook.com. I could also have you reach out to my office at Catalyst.
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The phone number there is [privacy contact redaction]. And they can send the book out as well. They'll just ask
975
1:12:11 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] It's 20 bucks. But [privacy contact redaction]. But I thought that we were able
976
1:12:17 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]scottsjensenbook.com. But the last sentence in this book says this, Chuck,
977
1:12:24 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] back because you're absolutely right in terms of what you're saying.
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1:12:30 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ers leading up to this. We got to follow our conscience,
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free from fear, coercion, and deceit. We need to realize the power of shared voices and know this.
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Alone, there's so much we cannot do. But together, there is so little we cannot do.
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1:12:50 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] got to, and I'm seeing it. We started this givesandgo.com
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slash scottsjensen three days ago. And we're seeing more physicians and nurses quietly donate
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anonymously because they're concerned just as you and I are, Chuck. I mean,
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this is unconscionable what's happened. And I have nothing more to say. Next question.
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Well, I appreciate that. Thank you.
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Okay. Jim, then Alison and then Stephen, and we're done. Jim.
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Thanks very much, Dr. Jensen. Great talk. And I've been texting with you a little bit about the
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origins, the background of what may be happening, who's really in control of big tech, big pharma,
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and big government. Recently, there have been some exposures saying Anthony Blinken,
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1:13:43 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ate in October of 2020, called the lying spies to say the Hunter
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1:13:50 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]op was a Russian disinformation, Chinese disinformation or whatever, when it was real.
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And now he seems to be the only person who could subvert us from this UN takeover of our health
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1:14:04 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]em, as James Rogacy has outlined. Zeke Emanuel or these HHS.
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Yeah, we got to keep things moving.
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Oh, yeah. So what are your thoughts on that in terms of the background of the underlying
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1:14:19 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]e behind big pharma, big tech and big government? Thanks.
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Well, I think one of the things that COVID has done is it has sort of,
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if you will, peeled away a layer of protection for these people. We've seen an awareness
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1:14:35 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]e thought big pharma was over here and tech was over here and
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government was over here. I think there's an awareness today that we didn't have three years
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ago that no, there is a collusion. And big tech did everything it could to protect the Hunter Biden
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thing. We saw that. We're all seeing a change in Twitter with Elon Musk being at the helm.
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I mean, to go into depth, Jim, with what you're asking about would be a 24 hour conversation in
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and of itself. But I think for me, the thing that gives me a little bit of hope is the fact that we
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are waking up. And even if it doesn't feel like we're recruiting people to take a different
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1:15:17 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ive, maybe we'd like to grow our movement faster. Sometimes we don't get to choose the pace.
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1:15:24 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction] to do that, which we can do. And giving up and quitting is just not an option.
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1:15:28 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ion. Okay. Alison.
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Hello, Scott. Thanks very much for your words. I'm a family doctor or I was a family doctor,
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a GP in New Zealand. I'm just wanting to know, you know, our doctors in New Zealand are being
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harassed with the same sort of languaging that everyone around the world is getting.
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And I'm just wondering what you think the role of the Federation of State Medical Boards
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and the International Association of Medical Regulatory Authorities is,
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you know, coordinating the attack on doctors that's worldwide.
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1:16:04 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] to use this as a springboard with what's gone on over the last years, what's
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1:16:09 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ralia, across the globe, what's happened to me.
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When I was in the Senate, I actually did try to put forth a piece of legislation that would
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limit the amount of power these physician federation boards would have, because
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1:16:30 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] no checks and balances. And if I don't have my family medicine board certification,
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1:16:39 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] trouble getting on some of the networks to take care of patients because insurance
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1:16:46 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] trouble getting hospital privileges. So these specialty federations,
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whether you're talking family practice, internal medicine, general surgery, anesthesiology,
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they've got a tremendous amount of power. And so in the United States, we're talking about creating
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1:17:03 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction], catch all kind of Federation where we can all get board certified
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without the political residual. And it's called AAPS. If you haven't heard of that, you might just
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AAPS, American Association of Physicians and Surgeons. But I think this is a huge issue.
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And I think while it's not really being the issue that's being discussed today,
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as much as we would like, I think this is going to grow. It's not going to be linear. It's not
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1:17:30 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] like it's going to sort of percolate along, and then it's going to take off.
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1:17:34 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]e are going to say, you know what, we have allowed these specialty boards to compromise
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the kind of healthcare patients get because what they're doing is they're limiting the physician
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from doing what the physicians know in many situations is best for the patient. So I absolutely
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share your concerns. I appreciate your articulating it. We have got to grow this issue because quite
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frankly, I am not impressed with these individual fiefdoms that these specialty
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1:18:03 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] Thank you. Thanks, Alison. Last question to Stephen
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1:18:10 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] And then, then Scotty, you can go and thank you so much for your time. Stephen.
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So Scott, it's not really a question that are you aware that, well, this is a question.
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Are you aware of the Council of Europe reports into the investigation which they were forced
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1:18:25 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]or in Germany who was also a politician at the time, Wolfgang Wodarg,
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into the 2009, and the Council of Europe have got this in a report on the internet,
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swine flu pandemic fraud. Are you aware of that? And would you be put in touch with Wolfgang Wodarg,
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1:18:45 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]or who is responsible for forcing that investigation? And the report
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is sitting there. Nobody's noticed it. I'm just astonished. Yeah, I'm not aware of it, sir. Thank
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you. And I'm going to pass on that one. I've got enough issues on my plate right now. But I mean,
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I know that there are these issues all over the country. But I have one of my obligations is
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1:19:10 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ion, are you aware that some of my figures for the deaths from
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1:19:17 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ions short term are approximately 20 million as far as one can sell. And those figures are
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based on the figures from theirs, from eudravigilance in the EU, and from the MHRA
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in the UK with a combined population of 850 million. I think that's right. So a tenth of
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the world's population and 20 million deaths, I estimate. And I actually published an article
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1:19:42 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ew attention to this and it was called Jacuz. And nobody noticed because
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1:19:51 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]y I would very much appreciate I can share the paper, not paper article with you.
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It's based on official government. I've got to run I'm losing my battery on my iPad.
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You've got my email. And Stephen and everybody. Honestly, Esther 414.
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We're in the positions and we might not have anticipated it. But here we are. And it's for
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1:20:17 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]raight to Hebrews 414. We got to hold fast to the beliefs
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we profess because I'm convinced that every one of the people on this call today, our focus is our
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patience. Thank you. Sure. Thank you very much for coming to speak to us. Thank you. Thank you, Scott.
