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Okay, so everybody welcome.
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Let's get this show on the road.
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We've had a slight technology delay.
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I won't go through the normal introduction, but we, Stephen Frost started this group over
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two years, almost three years ago.
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Thank you all for attending, whether you're watching live or by recording.
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And if you want the normal intro, you can go to another recording from another session.
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They're all up here and we welcome Celia Farber.
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Celia, you are a superstar, been a subscriber to your material for a long time, as has Stephen,
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So we are in your hands for as long as you wish to address us.
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Over to you.
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Thank you so much, all of you.
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I thank you for your saintly patience with the technical mishaps and I'm really glad
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we cracked it.
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As I was preparing for this, I mean, I've had, let's see, the numbers are getting crazy.
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And yet when I'm asked to address it, especially the more time goes on, I find that it's like
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And I think what can I tell them and how do I pull out of all the long history?
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What I find happens, and this kind of speaks to my presentation, is that because it was
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so immensely violent and traumatic, when I try to organize and crystallize it, I myself
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become, it's like being a trauma, like a tuning fork for the trauma.
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be able to be very fluent in the essentials of the lies and the madness and so forth,
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So I thought what I really want to do is lean into a book that doesn't get talked about
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named Janine Roberts.
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And the person that I speak to about Janine Roberts' work the most is Gary Null.
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Gary Null and I are sort of a little obsessed about Janine Roberts and her book, and I'm
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going to show you the cover of her book in a moment and why it's important.
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So okay, first of all, my talk is called, as you can see, HIV and AIDS, some fragments,
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should be some fragments, HIV and AIDS, some fragments of the long history of a death cult
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that laid the foundation for brutality concealed as public health.
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The thing I'm going to start with is the hardest part because it's the part that, as I mentioned
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before, kind of gets away from me.
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I don't quite see it as science anymore.
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There's science in it, but I see it as, I mean, it's sort of like going back and look
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at something like the US invasion of Iraq and trying to describe that as a war.
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Why was it a war?
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You know, it's crazy.
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You can't do it.
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And it's the same with this.
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The same war machine that's doing everything in our traumatized world also did this thing.
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So I think I'm a little bit at odds with some of the other longstanding HIV dissidents in
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my dear friend, Dave Rasnik.
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Violence, trauma, mind control, monarch mind control.
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These are my themes.
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Crowd psychosis.
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Lately, I've been getting into Renée Girard a lot and writing about Renée Girard.
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You know, Elias Kennedy, who's right here with me, I'm always and sort of, so I work
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know, what on earth happened and how can I not a scientist?
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stories in science.
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And so as a very, I started on the story, heaven forbid, in 1987 as a very young reporter
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at Spin Magazine.
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I'll never forget.
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Like that took six months.
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And I eventually, at that time I was obsessed with AIDS in the negative sense.
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I had downloaded the Terror and the PsiOp, what was I, 20 or 21?
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transmission risk group.
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So that trauma and terror of believing I was going to die turned into a research obsession.
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in Spin Magazine was about an egg lipid substance called AL721 that came from the Weissman Institute
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in Israel.
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and wishful thinking.
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And I believed in the very beginning that this egg lipid stuff was the thwarted cure
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for AIDS and so on and so on.
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So okay, you know, first pancake.
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The second article was an interview with Peter Duisburg and this happened at the end of 1987.
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1987 was also the year Peter Duisburg, sorry, I'm making a few presumptions that people
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here know who Peter Duisburg is, but I'll just say it very simply.
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The forerunner and primary, both champion and scapegoat of the original massive scientific
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challenge to Gallo's so-called HIV theory, which really is an HIV PsiOp, as we will discuss.
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I interviewed Peter Duisburg.
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writer and researcher and author, who went out against all of the gay community and said that
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AZT was deadly and toxic and was killing gay men, which of course it was.
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The New York native got bullied and boycotted and targeted and harassed out of business
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never read it, never buy it.
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And eventually the native had to close its doors.
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That's one of countless examples of exactly the way everything was back then.
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They weren't able to target, harass, destroy every last person who touched it, but they
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chose to borrow René Gérard's term, they chose scapegoats.
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They chose certain thought leaders, certain periodicals.
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I certainly was one of them.
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They showed the entire world that if you touch this, this is what will happen to you.
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Many of you present are living versions of that right now, so maybe you don't need me
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But that I think is the dark art that they sharpened and honed in the AIDS years.
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My editor said, don't mention this Peter Duisburg interview.
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I said, I want to look, I showed him the cover of the New York native.
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Here's the scientist at Berkeley and he's the top retro virologist and he doesn't think
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HIV causes AIDS.
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And he says he's willing to be injected with it.
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And all I knew at the time, I had recently come back to the United States after growing
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up in Sweden, but I started out a native New Yorker, but my mother moved us to Sweden when
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I was 11.
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only are we not doing this, you're never to mention it again.
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And you're going to do dolphins and AIDS this month.
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But I had already put the call in to Peter Duisburg, to Peter Duisburg's lab in Berkeley
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and early the next morning, my phone rang.
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It was Peter Duisburg calling me back and he treated me like I was like anybody, like
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How do I say this?
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and thrilling to me that I wasn't spoken down to, I wasn't condescended to.
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Literally in my pajamas, I turned the tape recorder on and we had a fantastic, very straightforward
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conversation which left me riveted.
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I put it under the door of the publisher of the magazine so I bypassed my immediate superior
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And he called me that night and he said, I read it, it's riveting, we're going to run
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So he and I shared that and then we were off to the races.
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So it was 10 years of this material.
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I mean I remember when I found David Razznick and one after the other, these characters
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that seemed to come out of a novel, they were all, they were brilliant, they were morally
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morally reassuring I would say because they spoke of this world that they felt hell bent
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not accurate.
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Shenton in the UK, Medi-Tel Productions, Jad Adams, later on Hugh Christie and Continuum.
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And in the end their violence, censorship, punishments, defundings, deplatformings and
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worse, dot dot dot, there were people who died under very strange circumstances.
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All of that led to that the war finally kind of ended I would say in 2008 and we were defeated
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not for being wrong, we were defeated, just we were just bludgeoned and we couldn't carry
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And then there was a lull and then COVID came roaring onto the landscape in 2020 and those
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Okay, now I'm going to get to the substance of my talk lest I drift off too much into
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So here is the cover of Janine Roberts book and I think it came out somewhere around 2004
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and what Janine did was something as far as I know none of us did, I certainly didn't.
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stood rightly accused of misappropriating the, I call it the blob, but the sample from
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Number one he tried to say that it was his and had come from his lab, number two that
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it was evidence of a psychopathic retrovirus and the cause of AIDS which had then been
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found by him in his lab.
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So the Dingle Committee when they went after Gallo for scientific theft and fraud, they
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didn't look really what was in the papers and Janine Roberts, well they did, they found,
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they looked for theft, but they did not look for the most, they did not look for the third
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rail issue, did Gallo have proof of a deadly virus.
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Peter Duisburg famously said that whole thing was who stole who's fake diamonds.
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going to lead you to where the smoking guns are, as far as I'm concerned the smoking guns
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are all in Janine Roberts book and we need go no further.
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Peter Duisburg, David Rasnik, the Perth Group, there's the rethinking AIDS site, I can direct
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you to all these sites and it's not to take it away from anything anybody did, but she
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this figure named Robert Gallo.
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of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and others and he is very important, he's the godfather and
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so forth, but Gallo's fraud, which amazingly was pollinated into the, well the bloodstream
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of scientific literature and then became a two trillion dollar PSYOP lie and deadly industry
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Here's where it all began.
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So I'm not going to go through this like with super tedium because I can't, again I look
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It's like looking at, if those of you read my sub stack, you know that I see the world
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now through things like monarch programming and this is very monarch stuff like reversal,
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inversion, nothing makes any sense, but let's try to get through it.
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Okay, so on page 120 of Janine Robert's book, this is in a chapter called fraudulent papers.
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who was of Czech origin and he's a very like complex Shakespearean figure.
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Gallo gives him what I call the blob, flies off to Europe and starts doing promotion for the big
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bang to come that he found the cause of AIDS and he was going to publish his papers in science and
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the whole world was going to change and this was going to be the fulfillment for a whole generation
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of what's called virus hunters.
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You know there are so many books about all this but I think you all know this stuff already.
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guy, Matthew Gonda, and to radically simplify they did not find retroviral activity, retroviruses,
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budding, retroviral particles or any of that stuff that we're supposed to believe was there.
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They didn't find the cause of AIDS, they didn't find pathogenesis, but the reason I call this
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the smoking gun, everybody knows there was no there there, everybody knows Gallo didn't
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prove anything. You've heard Carrie Mullis say over and over, I kept asking for the paper that
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proves it, nobody would give me the paper. What you actually see here in Gallo's own,
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I'm going to flip back and forth a little bit just so you can sort of get a visual here,
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in Gallo's own handwriting, so it's the lab notes, is that he reverses the conclusions
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I think in Switzerland, so you see all this stuff going on. Gallo comes back from his European
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promotional tour and flips out, I don't know if I have the page here, but there's a famous
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part of it where he says he writes in the margin, Mika, are you crazy? And he's scolding him and
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berating him and that's classic Gallo. So we're just going to cut to the chase right now and then
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we're going to move on. Reading from Jeanine Roberts's words here, Gallo had changed the
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title of the paper. When published, it would claim that they had isolated the virus. There
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was no mention of isolation in the title originally. There were no experiments in it designed to
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isolate the virus for research purposes. Giant nucleated cells were produced in their culture.
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They indicated the presence of a cancer, not a virus. But when I turned the page, I was riveted.
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can you believe it, the causative agent of AIDS had not yet been identified.
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from what I read, Popovic seems to have been entirely honest in reporting their renaming of
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the French virus, although he must have known this would make Gallo furious. This made me wonder if
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Popovic had wisely decided to make Gallo write the deceptive text himself. Was this why Popovic
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And here she writes,
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let's see if I can read this.
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Yeah, I'm interested in her words, precisely the opposite, because I'm interested in, I've kind of
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begun to learn to learn about inversion, that there's something about lies and deceptions,
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It's not going to be the same thing.
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So this is the original, let's see, where are we? Sorry. The original wording was,
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was, despite intensive research efforts, the causative agent of AIDS had not yet been identified.
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Gallo comes back, screams, yells, in his own hand, writes in the margins,
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Mika, are you crazy? What is the matter with you, et cetera.
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And then he writes that a retro, I mean, he reverses it to that a retrovirus of the HTLV family,
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that's, that's quote unquote, his family, leukemia viruses, originally, might be an etiological agent
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Janine Roberts wrote,
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theory that a retrovirus caused AIDS an assumption. Gallo deleted this word, replacing it with
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hypothesis, as can be seen in the clipping below. So here's the absolutely breathtaking, well,
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I think all of this is breathtaking. I hope you agree.
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Six days after this traumatic battle between Gallo and Popovic, where I see Popovic
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cowering, of course, this is all domination games and Gallo and he, I received his wrath
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over the phone. I think the year was 1988. And I got back to the office and there was a message
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that Bob Gallo had called. And I was petrified, I was petrified. And then I called him back and
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matter with you? Are you ruining your life? Don't you want to be like me? I'm not going to be like
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you. This is, this is the last screen. This is the last screen of the book. And it's all in my
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book. It's all in my life. Don't you want to be like Barbara Walters? Do you know how you can get
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to be like Barbara Walters? Not by doing stuff like this. This whole thing is driven by these
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who said the cause of AIDS had not been found
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Six days later, the paper with Gallo's revision
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was submitted to Science Magazine and the rest is history.
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There was a powerful spell and a powerful,
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however many years from now,
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that's the same thing that we all looked at
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and it's not possible to answer,
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not even by greed, not even by ambition.
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here's my guy, René Girard.
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I put some René Girard quotes together.
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I think this one is particularly good.
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The language of AIDS was the language of violence
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and the language of,
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do you wanna lose everything?
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Do you wanna lose your career?
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Like extreme, extreme bullying.
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we're not even exactly saying it's right.
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We're saying we can and will destroy you
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so-called scientific minds to flip
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and they thought they were seeing something
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they weren't seeing.
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But the beautiful part is this did not happen to everybody.
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There's Carrie.
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Sorry.
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That's one of my quotes,
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one of the quotes from Carrie Mullis
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from one of my interviews and I love that quote.
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Celia, can you read it out that quote please?
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Oh, sorry, yes I can.
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by the $2 billion a year they spend on it.
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You take any other virus and spend $2 billion,
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Carrie Mullis, Nobel laureate.
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Carrie Mullis, Nobel laureate, 1992
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for the invention of polymerase chain reaction,
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say slightly erroneously.
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It's not the PCR test he invented.
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And we could talk forever about Carrie.
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We knew him and loved him and there's a lot to say
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about that but he said everything while he was alive
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and what he is saying right here
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is the essence of everything.
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okay, so he's focusing on the money
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but what you see in this observation is
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a belief, an absolute,
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you are seeing something here, you are seeing something here.
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So we know this can happen
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And it's Hans Christian Andersen's child.
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It's mass hysteria, it's everything with COVID,
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it's everything we're living.
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So I think now AIDS is but an early,
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The waters we swim in, namely,
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traumatic simulation experiences for humanity
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were never trying to be accurate.
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They're not trying to be accurate now.
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I think what's different about the HIV story
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is that there was such an enormous effort
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in so many countries over so many years
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with so many professionals
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to sandbag it, to stop it.
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And it depends which lens you're using to look at it.
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Was it a success, a failure?
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Was the war won?
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means that something was gained and won.
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And you can see that in this slide here,
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something enormous was gained and won.
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And when I look at things like this,
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I think it's actually pretty amazing
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that I guess that we got as far as we did.
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So here's a list.
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and I wanna talk about it more.
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These are, this is as of 2012.
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So this is now 12 years ago.
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This was obviously, this list is,
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and they've moved on.
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But this was 2,897 signatories
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And as it says here, they included 608 PhDs, 377 MDs,
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with a combined four Nobel prizes in chemistry.
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Kerry is one of them.
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under a link that says signatories.
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I think this is important.
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Obviously, all these people,
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professional and economic blight, if not annihilation.
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And here's my key.
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Here's the good news.
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And we should, we should be grateful for that.
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I could call up thousands of headlines.
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We'll be familiar to all of you in the COVID era.
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So I'll read what I've written here on this slide.
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Between 1987 and 2008, thousands of media outlets
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Peter Duisburg was the primary scapegoat.
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We were terrorized, abused, targeted, defunded,
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mocked and accused without respite.
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It was psychological warfare.
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And I did much less well in that psychological warfare.
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I experienced from the, let me, I'll show you.
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I've never shown this before.
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I don't think I have.
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So that's me with blood on my face.
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And I was told by the person or somebody who knew the person
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who created it, that this was real human blood.
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They made one of these for myself, for Peter Duisburg,
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for the Perth group, Elena Eliopoulos,
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So the idea here, well, okay, let me read what I've written.
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In 2006, after Harper's published an 11,000 article of mine,
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two years in the making called
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Out of Control, AIDS and the Corruption of Medical Science,
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a British HIV researcher named John P. Moore
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and again, I said, I didn't do so well with,
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and either laugh at it or dismiss it,
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but I was very receptive to this voodoo.
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I knew after my Harper's article that I,
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they had been after me for a long time
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and all kinds of crazy things had happened,
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after that Harper's article, which they really didn't like.
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And it exposed a lot of,
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it exposed the dark Anthony Fauci AIDS apparatus,
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it exposed human experimentation, it exposed murder,
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AIDS was a massive, massive cover story
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and front operation for so many different kinds of evil.
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It was not merely money laundering on a Titanic scale.
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As I think, I think you can see in this picture,
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and they did seem to particularly hate the women,
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although they also, more than anybody,
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they hated Peter Duesberg.
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How can I say this?
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They were not normal.
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The attacks were not normal.
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The things that happened to us
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it's really something else to hear yourself
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who are responsible for the deaths of millions,
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which really is, it's easy to say
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who cares what those idiots think,
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but they're really putting people in a frequency of terror
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and it's like degradation.
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Let's look at some of the Renée Girard quotes in a little.
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I love Elias Canetti.
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I love crowds and power, one of my Bibles.
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I highly recommend everybody read it.
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and it's really a masterpiece.
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It's these somewhat dreamy meditations
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on how packs operate, groups, crowds.
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that there are all these different kinds of formations
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that human beings make,
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about scapegoats and about sacrifice.
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Everything I think about now, I think about in these terms.
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which is the scapegoat mechanism.
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the other day and I got a new angle.
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I can't remember their names, but they were saying,
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one of the scapegoat traditions and mechanism
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what they did to Peter Duisburg.
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I've always been fascinated by him and I still am.
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His soul, his spirit.
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When I see that innocence in him,
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he didn't get the memo about what is science
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and what is this Fauci apparatus.
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by his own really wonderful qualities
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of naivete, purity, which he took for granted
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that that's how a scientist behaves.
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It's a massive, massive drama, this whole thing.
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No one needs to be taught to scapegoat.
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0:43:51 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]ively.
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0:43:53 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]ead, we actively need to be taught not to scapegoat.
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0:43:59 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ly, behind every act of violence
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0:44:02 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]atus.
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Yeah, you can say that again.
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So this morning, Kevin Corbett, who you all know well,
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called me to say, I can't come to your presentation
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because I'm gonna be at a family event.
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And I said, Kevin, I'm glad you called.
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Who is that guy you talk about?
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I think he fits in with these themes
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I wanna present today.
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0:44:31 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ly what I meant.
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I said that death-making guy.
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So Kevin brought to my attention
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0:44:40 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ing researcher
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who like Peter Duisburg, he came over from Germany.
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0:44:46 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ed States.
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Wolfensberger.
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And he saw, and he saw it more and more clearly,
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0:44:58 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction] the end of his,
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I mean, it got more intense toward the end of his life,
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but he saw this, what shall I say, phenomenon,
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and he called it death-making,
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which is a really good name for what happened
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in HIV AIDS, what happened in COVID,
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0:45:20 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]uff.
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So what did Wolfensberger mean by death-making?
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What he meant, what he saw in medicine was that,
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well, you can see the title of his book,
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The New Genocide of Handicapped and Afflicted People.
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And this book here,
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0:45:40 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]ing the health and lives
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of patients in hospitals,
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especially if the patient is a member
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of a societally devalued class.
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So what Wolfensberger, and now, I'm total novice.
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As of this morning, I needed Kevin to remind me
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who this guy was, but I think we should all look into him.
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What he saw was that they were beginning in the,
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I guess he was beginning to observe this,
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I wanna say in the 70s, but I'm not entirely sure
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0:46:09 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction] been when he,
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0:46:11 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]arted it earlier than that.
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0:46:13 --> 0:46:16
So again, if anybody here is a Wolfensberger expert
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and I'm botching it, forgive me.
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But here's what I do know about Wolfensberger.
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He was seeing that they were,
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0:46:23 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]s to kill people off,
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0:46:30 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]e for death
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by rendering them as good as already dead.
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And that is absolutely in a nutshell,
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what I saw, what we saw in HIV AIDS.
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And if anything was the thing I was fighting against most,
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it was that.
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0:46:44 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]s, an antibody test that obviously doesn't,
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doesn't test for illness to come,
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doesn't test for infection or virus or any of that.
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0:46:56 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]e
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for death in this apparatus because everybody had agreed,
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0:47:04 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction] positive, you've got the deadly virus
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and you're going to die.
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Gallo in his insanity initially declared
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0:47:15 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]e would die within six months of testing positive
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and then it became a year and then five years and 10 years
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and maybe it's 30 years.
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0:47:23 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]e was if I get a positive test,
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I'm already dead.
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0:47:28 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]
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Again, I use the word occult.
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It was, there was no way to say how long a person might live
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0:47:37 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction] like that.
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But they kind of went to this,
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what's the word I'm looking for, oracle.
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0:47:47 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]s told them bad news.
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0:47:51 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]s said, HIV is deadly, we'll kill you.
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Gallo's famous quotes, god, he's so crazy.
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Things like Gallo would kill, I'm sorry,
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HIV would kill Clark Kent.
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HIV kills like a truck.
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0:48:07 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ors, no co-factors, no hope, no nothing,
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no nutrition, forget about it.
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0:48:13 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] a death blow.
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And all of us who were fighting
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in this dismal, grisly war,
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I think that was the main thing we were,
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as I say, sandbagging.
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Gallo didn't prove it, Gallo didn't prove it.
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Hold off, everybody.
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Don't believe these people.
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You don't have to agree to die.
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And they would die, especially in Africa.
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I spent a month crossing Africa with two colleagues.
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In Africa, the death, the voodooing
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0:48:49 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]
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0:48:53 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] be told they had,
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they called it slim disease there,
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0:48:58 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] sort of go down to the river and die.
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So it was extreme voodoo.
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And it was extremely cruel.
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0:49:07 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]e,
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0:49:09 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ed positive was cut off from hope or,
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I guess, and even cancer patients,
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you didn't quite see this, a cancer patient.
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0:49:22 --> 0:49:25
And of course, I detest the cancer industry,
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0:49:25 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] they were on a sort of scale of,
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we find your cancer, we blast you with chemotherapy,
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and I think there is sacrifice in it,
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in the cancer model as well.
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0:49:37 --> 0:49:40
But with HIV, they were already dead.
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0:49:40 --> 0:49:45
If a woman in the, let's say late 80s,
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clear through maybe to the early 90s,
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0:49:48 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ed HIV positive and was pregnant,
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she was absolutely brow beaten and bullied
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0:49:53 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] an abortion.
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Your child will die, you're gonna die any minute.
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And it was so lurid and primitive and relentless.
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0:50:03 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] thing about it was that
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we were in trouble for mitigating
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0:50:10 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ory.
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0:50:13 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]e, hold off, you don't have to die.
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0:50:19 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] of all, read these papers, deep program yourself.
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Here's some studies about repairing gut function
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or improving nutrition and certainly going off
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0:50:30 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ugs.
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0:50:31 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] been HIV positive
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0:50:33 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]n't gotten sick
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0:50:36 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]n't died.
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0:50:38 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]e
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0:50:40 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]uff like that,
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but it was despised, it was despised.
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God, it was the weirdest thing.
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And I think really what we were looking at
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is this Wolfensberger.
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It's like the beginning of what we're now up to our necks
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0:50:58 --> 0:51:03
and the beginning of the normalization of eugenics,
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0:51:03 --> 0:51:06
of mass killing, of depopulation
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0:51:07 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] of pretexts during the HIV years.
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But what they branded successfully was,
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as I said, those people are already dead.
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0:51:19 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]arted to die
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0:51:23 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]imate is 300,000, mostly gay men,
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perished from early high dose AZT
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0:51:30 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]e in the trance
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and the monarch simulation believed
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there was an AIDS virus and it killed people very fast.
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Everybody believed that's what they were looking at.
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0:51:47 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]e who were already going to die.
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0:51:50 --> 0:51:51
And we all fought this.
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0:51:53 --> 0:51:56
If there was a mother who had a baby
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0:51:56 --> 0:51:57
and she was HIV positive,
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0:51:59 --> 0:52:03
all the powers, there are so many horrendous stories.
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0:52:05 --> 0:52:09
You weren't allowed to, like, let's say she decided,
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0:52:09 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]arted to push AZT for pregnant women.
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AZT is a mutagen, teratogen and carcinogen
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0:52:19 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ug
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ever given to human beings.
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0:52:23 --> 0:52:26
It's a chemotherapy, DNA, chain terminator.
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0:52:28 --> 0:52:30
And this business of the golden rule in pregnancy,
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0:52:30 --> 0:52:34
which is now totally gone with the COVID shots,
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0:52:34 --> 0:52:37
they really broke a lot of things down in AIDS.
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0:52:37 --> 0:52:39
They broke that one down in 1994
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0:52:42 --> 0:52:47
when they got fake science to show that AZT lessened
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0:52:52 --> 0:52:57
the number of babies born HIV positive, total BS, all of it.
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But with that, they had broken down the firewall
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0:53:00 --> 0:53:05
of not giving pregnant women anything at all.
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0:53:05 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ug that was class,
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I think they've removed this as well,
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the whole class C and class D, teratogen, mutagen.
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0:53:14 --> 0:53:16
When you try to find all that for the COVID shots,
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you can't find it.
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0:53:22 --> 0:53:25
So the things that were laid down
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0:53:25 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]es during AIDS,
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0:53:30 --> 0:53:32
things that were laid down were,
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I'm gonna try to say them in some kind of reasonable order.
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0:53:38 --> 0:53:43
Putative, virus, no proof of isolation,
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0:53:45 --> 0:53:49
no proof of causation, no classical causation,
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0:53:49 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ulates, no nothing,
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0:53:51 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction] a really well-crafted terrifying PsiOP
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0:53:55 --> 0:53:57
coming through the media that seem,
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0:53:57 --> 0:53:59
if it has science in it,
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0:53:59 --> 0:54:03
it's the science of psychological warfare,
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0:54:03 --> 0:54:06
the science of MKUltra, the science of Monarch programming,
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0:54:06 --> 0:54:07
the science of trauma.
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0:54:11 --> 0:54:15
Next comes death making.
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0:54:16 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] is launched, of course, Gallo's patent.
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0:54:20 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]s
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0:54:22 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]
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that would tell them if they would live or die.
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0:54:28 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]e became like negatively obsessed with the tests
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0:54:32 --> 0:54:36
and later with so-called viral load testing, which used PCR.
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0:54:36 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]y,
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0:54:38 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]y,
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0:54:41 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]e would in the 80s and the 90s,
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0:54:45 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]e so crazy that they believed
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0:54:48 --> 0:54:50
that when they woke up on a given day,
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0:54:50 --> 0:54:55
they were only going to live if they ran out to get a test
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0:54:55 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]ill okay.
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0:54:58 --> 0:55:01
So this is a massive attack and assault
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0:55:01 --> 0:55:03
on everything that had been before,
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0:55:03 --> 0:55:08
that you're okay unless for some reason you're not okay.
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0:55:08 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ead it was nobody's okay,
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0:55:10 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ed all the time.
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0:55:14 --> 0:55:17
And I don't have that many ideas
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0:55:17 --> 0:55:20
that I think are like truly my own in all of this.
741
0:55:20 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ly was a reporter and interviewing other people
742
0:55:23 --> 0:55:24
about what they were thinking.
743
0:55:24 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] that is my own
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0:55:27 --> 0:55:30
is that I think it's a dark,
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0:55:30 --> 0:55:35
it's a dark mimicry of the financial system.
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0:55:36 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]s, debt usury,
747
0:55:39 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ess
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0:55:43 --> 0:55:44
they didn't have yet.
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0:55:46 --> 0:55:48
And so I feel like they sort of,
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0:55:48 --> 0:55:53
and that's the monetary black magic came from that,
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0:55:56 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction] of people thinking about,
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0:56:02 --> 0:56:04
I guess I would call it health and medicine,
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0:56:04 --> 0:56:08
that's completely taken out of the human body,
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0:56:08 --> 0:56:12
nobody's even thinking about how they feel.
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0:56:12 --> 0:56:14
Certainly nobody's thinking about nutrition
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0:56:14 --> 0:56:16
or health or toxins or anything else.
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0:56:16 --> 0:56:19
Everything is outsourced to this evil new place,
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0:56:24 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]ing, surrogate markers.
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0:56:29 --> 0:56:30
You know, you can,
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0:56:30 --> 0:56:32
there's no way to describe the colossal money,
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0:56:34 --> 0:56:36
but worse than the money,
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0:56:36 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]oitation and the gold rush
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0:56:40 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]e's minds so badly.
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0:56:43 --> 0:56:48
And that's certainly, wow, I mean, talk about Psyop.
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0:56:50 --> 0:56:53
Before AIDS, I guess it's fair to say people believe
766
0:56:53 --> 0:56:55
that sex caused life.
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0:56:55 --> 0:56:59
After AIDS, people were all on board,
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0:57:00 --> 0:57:04
unless they were deprogrammed with that sex caused death.
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0:57:04 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction] introduced here?
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0:57:07 --> 0:57:11
Terror of other humans, terror of human intimacy,
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0:57:11 --> 0:57:15
terror, it's like biology as terrorism,
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0:57:15 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]s.
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0:57:18 --> 0:57:20
And all this is happening by and through
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0:57:20 --> 0:57:23
and from the same military apparatus
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0:57:23 --> 0:57:26
that brought you everything, all the wars, 9-11.
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0:57:27 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]e didn't catch though
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0:57:29 --> 0:57:31
was that they were thinking like that,
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0:57:31 --> 0:57:34
they were primed and brainwashed to think that way
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0:57:35 --> 0:57:39
and now about their own biology, cells,
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0:57:41 --> 0:57:44
their own, you know, that there's some little
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0:57:44 --> 0:57:48
microscopic organism that you picked up from somebody
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0:57:48 --> 0:57:51
somewhere and now it's trying to kill you.
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0:57:51 --> 0:57:55
And this is so absolutely outrageous.
784
0:57:55 --> 0:57:59
It's such an attack on everything, everything known,
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0:57:59 --> 0:58:00
everything sacred.
786
0:58:00 --> 0:58:03
I would say an attack on God, not just I would say,
787
0:58:03 --> 0:58:05
but it was an attack on God.
788
0:58:05 --> 0:58:10
It is formally known as the machine model of biology
789
0:58:10 --> 0:58:14
comes in around World War I and it's post-Darwinism
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0:58:14 --> 0:58:17
and it says, human beings are machines.
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0:58:18 --> 0:58:21
We are the tinkerers, we are the fixers.
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0:58:21 --> 0:58:24
We will tell these human beings when they have a broken part
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0:58:24 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] it.
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0:58:27 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ained to me by an amazing scientist
795
0:58:30 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]roman, Dave Brasnik knew him too.
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0:58:33 --> 0:58:37
He was a genetic, he was a geneticist who lectured
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0:58:37 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] years of his life,
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0:58:39 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] genetic determinism.
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0:58:42 --> 0:58:47
So in this beautiful, in this beautiful coterie,
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0:58:50 --> 0:58:55
there were many laments and cries
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0:58:56 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e were talking about
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0:59:01 --> 0:59:03
that didn't all take center stage.
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0:59:03 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]age was the, I think,
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0:59:05 --> 0:59:10
very boring endless battle of what did Gallup prove
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0:59:10 --> 0:59:12
or not prove and I'm sorry, I bored you with it earlier,
806
0:59:12 --> 0:59:17
but I want you to know where to go for the smoking gun.
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0:59:17 --> 0:59:18
But there was so much else in it.
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0:59:18 --> 0:59:23
There was so much else going on with alienation,
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0:59:23 --> 0:59:26
separation, apartheid, technocracy,
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0:59:26 --> 0:59:31
everything that we are now living in this frankly nightmare.
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0:59:31 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]ones in HIV AIDS
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0:59:35 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] didn't know what was going on.
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0:59:38 --> 0:59:43
We didn't know who these people were, where they came from
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0:59:43 --> 0:59:46
and if we made a miscalculation or error,
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0:59:46 --> 0:59:49
I mean, apart from that they would just stomp us bloody
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0:59:49 --> 0:59:52
and dead and we'd have no chance.
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0:59:52 --> 0:59:55
The miscalculation I think is to look too much
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0:59:55 --> 0:59:59
at the esoteric science and not nearly enough
819
0:59:59 --> 1:00:03
at the mind assault, mind rape, psychology
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1:00:03 --> 1:00:08
of MKUltra monarch programming and that all comes out of,
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1:00:10 --> 1:00:11
and that's literally Joseph Goebbels.
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1:00:16 --> 1:00:17
Wait, that might be wrong.
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1:00:17 --> 1:00:18
Do I mean Goebbels?
824
1:00:18 --> 1:00:19
No, I mean the other one.
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1:00:20 --> 1:00:24
Very famous, very famous Nazi.
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1:00:24 --> 1:00:25
Sorry, there's another one.
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1:00:25 --> 1:00:27
I think I got that name wrong.
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1:00:28 --> 1:00:33
In any case, I wanna ask what time it is.
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1:00:33 --> 1:00:34
It was during.
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1:00:34 --> 1:00:36
During, thank you.
831
1:00:37 --> 1:00:41
Now I see that my clock here is 4.32.
832
1:00:41 --> 1:00:44
So I think that means, so I got us off to late start
833
1:00:44 --> 1:00:46
and I think I've spoken for one hour.
834
1:00:46 --> 1:00:48
I had intended not to speak so long
835
1:00:48 --> 1:00:51
because I really wanted to ask you all,
836
1:00:51 --> 1:00:54
what do you wanna ask me because it's so much,
837
1:00:54 --> 1:00:57
it's so much, it's so much and I tried to throw
838
1:00:57 --> 1:00:59
as much as I could into the basket.
839
1:00:59 --> 1:01:03
I had initially pulled out a video of Janine Roberts
840
1:01:03 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ay for you.
841
1:01:06 --> 1:01:10
It's eight minutes long and it's not about the Gallo stuff
842
1:01:10 --> 1:01:11
because we already went over that.
843
1:01:12 --> 1:01:15
It's where she talks about what she found
844
1:01:15 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ually are
845
1:01:19 --> 1:01:21
and it's this beautiful story,
846
1:01:21 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ory she tells.
847
1:01:26 --> 1:01:31
Janine was transgender and I feel like somehow
848
1:01:31 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ives on all this,
849
1:01:32 --> 1:01:35
I don't just rave about her work
850
1:01:35 --> 1:01:37
because she got the smoking gun with Gallo and all that,
851
1:01:37 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ory she tells in Fear of the Invisible,
852
1:01:42 --> 1:01:47
it's like a love story where she narrates the real story
853
1:01:47 --> 1:01:52
of how magnificently made we are and what's really going on
854
1:01:52 --> 1:01:56
in what gets falsely accused by the virus hunters
855
1:01:56 --> 1:02:01
and the warmongers as viruses trying to kill us
856
1:02:01 --> 1:02:03
and she turns it around and I found this clip
857
1:02:03 --> 1:02:06
that Gary Knoll filmed with her and it was eight minutes long
858
1:02:06 --> 1:02:09
but now I'm on the fence whether we have time for that
859
1:02:09 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]raight to Q and A.
860
1:02:12 --> 1:02:13
Yes, play it.
861
1:02:13 --> 1:02:14
Play it.
862
1:02:14 --> 1:02:16
Play it, okay, wonderful, I love you guys.
863
1:02:20 --> 1:02:22
That's not it, wait a minute, here we go.
864
1:02:23 --> 1:02:27
Sorry, I have, you go away, okay, here we go.
865
1:02:35 --> 1:02:39
These documents are dated before the name HIV came into use.
866
1:02:40 --> 1:02:41
It wasn't used before 1986.
867
1:02:42 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]ually quite clearly fraudulent.
868
1:02:46 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]rong that
869
1:02:50 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]igator,
870
1:02:52 --> 1:02:53
Rebecca Sells, John Dingle.
871
1:02:53 --> 1:02:56
Celia, we can't see the movie.
872
1:02:56 --> 1:02:58
Oh, I'm sorry, what's happening?
873
1:02:58 --> 1:02:59
You can't see the screen?
874
1:02:59 --> 1:03:02
Oh, oh, I gotcha, okay, I see what happened.
875
1:03:03 --> 1:03:08
I clicked on it and I'm watching it on YouTube on my screen.
876
1:03:08 --> 1:03:11
Yes, I think you have to close the PowerPoint.
877
1:03:11 --> 1:03:13
There it is, good.
878
1:03:13 --> 1:03:14
Now you see it?
879
1:03:14 --> 1:03:15
Yeah.
880
1:03:15 --> 1:03:15
Press that.
881
1:03:15 --> 1:03:16
Yeah, we see her, yeah.
882
1:03:19 --> 1:03:22
These documents are dated before the name HIV.
883
1:03:22 --> 1:03:23
Is that working?
884
1:03:23 --> 1:03:24
Yep.
885
1:03:24 --> 1:03:26
Yeah, what did you say at the beginning?
886
1:03:26 --> 1:03:27
I can't, I can't.
887
1:03:27 --> 1:03:29
Okay, I'll rewind it.
888
1:03:29 --> 1:03:31
Everyone can see it and hear it, right?
889
1:03:31 --> 1:03:32
Yep. Yes, okay.
890
1:03:33 --> 1:03:37
These documents are dated before the name HIV
891
1:03:37 --> 1:03:38
came into use.
892
1:03:38 --> 1:03:40
It wasn't used before 1986.
893
1:03:41 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]ually, quite clearly fraudulent.
894
1:03:45 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]rong that
895
1:03:49 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]igator,
896
1:03:50 --> 1:03:52
Rebecca Sells, John Dingle,
897
1:03:53 --> 1:03:56
and the Secret Service had these documents presented
898
1:03:56 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]ate attorney general for prosecution.
899
1:04:00 --> 1:04:04
And it was ruled out of time
900
1:04:05 --> 1:04:08
because it had taken so many years to uncover this.
901
1:04:08 --> 1:04:11
And therefore, on a technicality,
902
1:04:11 --> 1:04:16
as we can judge, he was not prosecuted for the fraud.
903
1:04:16 --> 1:04:17
But I mean, that's what he said.
904
1:04:17 --> 1:04:19
I was never, he sent an email to me
905
1:04:19 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction] in my book.
906
1:04:22 --> 1:04:24
Full, I don't believe in hiding anything.
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1:04:24 --> 1:04:26
So the whole, not censored,
908
1:04:26 --> 1:04:29
the entire attack from him is in the book.
909
1:04:30 --> 1:04:34
And the Secret Service, the guys who were off the test me,
910
1:04:34 --> 1:04:36
they were saying he's wrong.
911
1:04:36 --> 1:04:38
And I told Robert Garner that,
912
1:04:38 --> 1:04:41
he has no response to talk to him now.
913
1:04:41 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]n't gotten touch with Popovic.
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1:04:44 --> 1:04:46
Popovic was offered a professorship
915
1:04:46 --> 1:04:49
in Robert Garner's new institute in Baltimore.
916
1:04:50 --> 1:04:54
Garner was kicked, were basically told, I understand.
917
1:04:54 --> 1:04:56
I was like, no.
918
1:04:56 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction] the NIH
919
1:04:58 --> 1:05:00
after it was proved he was told the French virus.
920
1:05:02 --> 1:05:07
A year later, he set up in Baltimore, the IHV,
921
1:05:08 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]itute, not HIV, but all to the round,
922
1:05:11 --> 1:05:14
where he's currently advising African governments
923
1:05:14 --> 1:05:17
financed by Bill Gates and the Defense Department.
924
1:05:19 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] two years ago, he put out on his website
925
1:05:23 --> 1:05:25
that he got a new idea on HIV.
926
1:05:25 --> 1:05:28
He's still highly influential, this man.
927
1:05:28 --> 1:05:31
He's the guru of the HIV establishment.
928
1:05:32 --> 1:05:37
He put out on his website that anyone who,
929
1:05:39 --> 1:05:43
anyone who fears that they've had a night of unguarded sex,
930
1:05:43 --> 1:05:46
that they're not trusting their partner,
931
1:05:47 --> 1:05:49
should go on antiretropharals.
932
1:05:51 --> 1:05:55
A year later, the CDC made this official policy
933
1:05:55 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ates.
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1:05:57 --> 1:06:01
It says on the CDC website that a person
935
1:06:01 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] their partner
936
1:06:06 --> 1:06:08
or because the condom broke,
937
1:06:08 --> 1:06:12
should go on a sharp course, say a month,
938
1:06:12 --> 1:06:14
of chemotherapy, of antiretrophar therapy
939
1:06:14 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ed.
940
1:06:18 --> 1:06:18
Wow.
941
1:06:18 --> 1:06:21
I mean, this is, you know, these are drugs,
942
1:06:21 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] cancer,
943
1:06:23 --> 1:06:26
we watch the patients like a hawk,
944
1:06:26 --> 1:06:28
their hair falls out,
945
1:06:28 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ugs as soon as possible,
946
1:06:30 --> 1:06:32
as soon as these patients are put on them for life.
947
1:06:33 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ugs,
948
1:06:35 --> 1:06:37
they're said to die of AIDS.
949
1:06:39 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ugs used,
950
1:06:45 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]ing
951
1:06:47 --> 1:06:50
as found in AIDS cases.
952
1:06:51 --> 1:06:55
You see, it's very hard to attack an invisible virus.
953
1:06:57 --> 1:07:00
The only, and this is true of all viruses,
954
1:07:00 --> 1:07:03
we've only got vaccines that give us antibodies,
955
1:07:03 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]op the virus.
956
1:07:07 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]op the cell from making them,
957
1:07:12 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]s is made by cells.
958
1:07:15 --> 1:07:19
They're made by plant cells, fish cells, human cells.
959
1:07:20 --> 1:07:22
They're a natural product
960
1:07:22 --> 1:07:25
that even healthy cells make viruses.
961
1:07:25 --> 1:07:28
We're only now, leading biologists are now coming
962
1:07:28 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]and why they do this.
963
1:07:31 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]y go from the presence of a virus
964
1:07:33 --> 1:07:36
to say it's the cause of an illness,
965
1:07:36 --> 1:07:39
is jumping a very, very big gun.
966
1:07:39 --> 1:07:40
It's jumping a gorge.
967
1:07:41 --> 1:07:42
Because,
968
1:07:44 --> 1:07:47
see, our cells need to talk to each other.
969
1:07:47 --> 1:07:50
They need to send genetic codes from one to another.
970
1:07:51 --> 1:07:54
The wonderful Barbara McClintock, Nobel Laureate,
971
1:07:54 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ained this, she was ridiculed at first.
972
1:07:57 --> 1:07:59
She's an inspiring woman in biology.
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1:08:00 --> 1:08:02
She didn't guess her Nobel Laureate prize
974
1:08:02 --> 1:08:03
when she got to her 80s.
975
1:08:05 --> 1:08:06
Because what she had said was
976
1:08:06 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]ant cells are intelligent.
977
1:08:09 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] the Nobel Laureate speech,
978
1:08:11 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]ained what she meant.
979
1:08:13 --> 1:08:17
You see that all cells, whether they're in us or in plants,
980
1:08:17 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]antly sniffing their environment
981
1:08:20 --> 1:08:24
and changing their DNA to give themselves protection.
982
1:08:24 --> 1:08:27
So tobacco smoke, modern toxins go past.
983
1:08:27 --> 1:08:32
The cell changes its DNA to give itself protection.
984
1:08:32 --> 1:08:34
Every cell, from plant to a human,
985
1:08:34 --> 1:08:37
has got five feet of DNA.
986
1:08:37 --> 1:08:38
It's like gossamer.
987
1:08:38 --> 1:08:40
It's like very fine silk.
988
1:08:40 --> 1:08:42
And it's rolled into the tightest of all
989
1:08:42 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]s.
990
1:08:45 --> 1:08:48
And this is leading biology.
991
1:08:48 --> 1:08:49
No one challenged it.
992
1:08:49 --> 1:08:52
Five feet, tightly encoded in fours.
993
1:08:52 --> 1:08:54
Computers encode in two.
994
1:08:54 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]rands are packed with information.
995
1:08:58 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]s
996
1:09:01 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]ling these codes.
997
1:09:04 --> 1:09:07
Because these codes show how we evolved
998
1:09:07 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] few millions, hundreds of millions of years.
999
1:09:12 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] of our genome has been shared between cells
1000
1:09:16 --> 1:09:19
because it's got the fingerprints of rectal pharces on it.
1001
1:09:19 --> 1:09:23
Because when a cell makes the codes it wants,
1002
1:09:23 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]al transphosphon,
1003
1:09:26 --> 1:09:30
which like an engineer, that's only this size of a molecule.
1004
1:09:30 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] described by the brilliant Barbara McIntock.
1005
1:09:38 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] changing the DNA.
1006
1:09:41 --> 1:09:43
This is what hospital swimmer bugs do.
1007
1:09:43 --> 1:09:44
That's how they protect themselves against drugs
1008
1:09:44 --> 1:09:45
in hospitals.
1009
1:09:45 --> 1:09:48
And it's how my nose cells do, my fingers, everything does.
1010
1:09:48 --> 1:09:50
All cells do this.
1011
1:09:50 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] us.
1012
1:09:55 --> 1:09:58
Sometimes they will go, you're a reaper.
1013
1:09:58 --> 1:10:00
And say, right, we've got the answer.
1014
1:10:00 --> 1:10:05
This new bit of DNA is what we need, gives us protection.
1015
1:10:05 --> 1:10:08
Now we are multicellular creatures.
1016
1:10:08 --> 1:10:10
And it's silly to say that every cell of our body
1017
1:10:10 --> 1:10:13
has to invent the will for itself.
1018
1:10:13 --> 1:10:16
The next thing that little bit of code has to do
1019
1:10:16 --> 1:10:18
is to get to other cells.
1020
1:10:18 --> 1:10:22
It adds a small piece of DNA, called an MA domain,
1021
1:10:22 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]al transphosphon.
1022
1:10:25 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]al pharmas.
1023
1:10:28 --> 1:10:31
Yes, the rectal pharmas, the same thing that we blame on AIDS.
1024
1:10:31 --> 1:10:35
The cell then buzzes out through its soft membrane, its skin,
1025
1:10:35 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]iable.
1026
1:10:37 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] the precious cargo
1027
1:10:40 --> 1:10:43
of a lovely new piece of DNA.
1028
1:10:43 --> 1:10:46
It goes out into the space between our cells.
1029
1:10:46 --> 1:10:48
It's got markers on the outside to tell the cells what
1030
1:10:48 --> 1:10:50
it's got inside it.
1031
1:10:50 --> 1:10:54
Other cells reach out for it, draw it into themselves,
1032
1:10:54 --> 1:10:58
take that precious cargo, and they put it in their inner
1033
1:10:58 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]um.
1034
1:10:59 --> 1:11:02
They put it in their genome, in their DNA.
1035
1:11:02 --> 1:11:03
They incorporate it.
1036
1:11:03 --> 1:11:04
That's how much they trust it.
1037
1:11:04 --> 1:11:08
And that's how they've done for the last 200 million years.
1038
1:11:08 --> 1:11:12
And that's why we find one third of our DNA
1039
1:11:12 --> 1:11:14
has been transported from cell to cell.
1040
1:11:14 --> 1:11:15
It's how we evolve.
1041
1:11:15 --> 1:11:17
It's how all creatures evolve.
1042
1:11:17 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]al pharmas is now being found
1043
1:11:19 --> 1:11:24
at the center for human life, for all life on our planet.
1044
1:11:24 --> 1:11:27
And this is transforming biology.
1045
1:11:27 --> 1:11:31
And yet, this is the very same concept
1046
1:11:31 --> 1:11:34
that Gallo and others were looking to say
1047
1:11:34 --> 1:11:38
was a pathology, the cause of AIDS.
1048
1:11:38 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] a few minutes left for this part
1049
1:11:40 --> 1:11:42
of our discussion.
1050
1:11:42 --> 1:11:45
Who else?
1051
1:11:45 --> 1:11:47
OK.
1052
1:11:47 --> 1:11:49
So sorry, guys.
1053
1:11:49 --> 1:11:55
So as I'm watching that again, I want
1054
1:11:55 --> 1:12:01
to return to something I said before, the reason.
1055
1:12:01 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ayed with me when she came to New York
1056
1:12:03 --> 1:12:07
when this was filmed to be interviewed by Gary Nel.
1057
1:12:07 --> 1:12:11
I don't know how all the different factions, virus,
1058
1:12:11 --> 1:12:13
no virus, et cetera, lost sight of Janine.
1059
1:12:13 --> 1:12:16
But I'm doing my part to bring her back up.
1060
1:12:16 --> 1:12:20
So what I see here, and the reason I am obsessed
1061
1:12:20 --> 1:12:28
with Renée Girard also, when I say HIV, what is that?
1062
1:12:28 --> 1:12:32
It's in heavy quotation marks.
1063
1:12:32 --> 1:12:36
The ultimate scapegoat.
1064
1:12:36 --> 1:12:41
And it's painful to think of that these wizards
1065
1:12:41 --> 1:12:45
did this black magic, that they turned.
1066
1:12:45 --> 1:12:51
It's not just that they, retroviruses, if they exist,
1067
1:12:51 --> 1:12:52
et cetera, were innocent.
1068
1:12:52 --> 1:12:57
It's not just that HIV, quote unquote, was innocent.
1069
1:12:57 --> 1:13:01
It's that they, and it, and the whole cellular symphony,
1070
1:13:02 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]s on our side, helping us, helping us, helping us.
1071
1:13:06 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]s, these virus hunter
1072
1:13:12 --> 1:13:21
men, these greedy, violent men, were branding these processes
1073
1:13:22 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]s, out to get us, out to kill us.
1074
1:13:27 --> 1:13:30
The medium being human intimacy itself.
1075
1:13:31 --> 1:13:33
It is so wicked and so evil.
1076
1:13:33 --> 1:13:41
I can't get past that first entryway to the point where
1077
1:13:42 --> 1:13:45
I'm willing to fiddle with the science, which, again,
1078
1:13:46 --> 1:13:48
not very good at.
1079
1:13:48 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ory of how they did that,
1080
1:13:56 --> 1:14:01
how they did that terror branding, the whole entire story is there.
1081
1:14:01 --> 1:14:06
And if you could throw that out, there would be nothing left
1082
1:14:08 --> 1:14:11
to tinker with, or to prove, or disprove.
1083
1:14:11 --> 1:14:15
I sometimes feel I'm good friends with Val Turner.
1084
1:14:16 --> 1:14:22
The work that Perth Group did was heroic and magnificent.
1085
1:14:23 --> 1:14:25
But I'm having a dialogue right now with Val Turner,
1086
1:14:25 --> 1:14:31
where I'm essentially saying, I mean, it's like the flip
1087
1:14:31 --> 1:14:32
side of the coin.
1088
1:14:32 --> 1:14:36
The orthodoxy says HIV causes AIDS, kills like a truck,
1089
1:14:36 --> 1:14:37
all this insanity.
1090
1:14:38 --> 1:14:42
And the counter-orthodoxy engages at that level.
1091
1:14:43 --> 1:14:44
No, it doesn't.
1092
1:14:44 --> 1:14:45
No, it doesn't.
1093
1:14:45 --> 1:14:45
No, it doesn't.
1094
1:14:48 --> 1:14:51
I think I feel today that was all important work, but it's still
1095
1:14:51 --> 1:14:53
part of the trap, if you will.
1096
1:14:54 --> 1:15:00
And I'm very interested in getting out of the trap altogether.
1097
1:15:01 --> 1:15:01
Thank you.
1098
1:15:02 --> 1:15:04
Celia, thank you.
1099
1:15:04 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]op your share screen.
1100
1:15:06 --> 1:15:10
So it's good practice to stop it, move your cursor to the top of your screen,
1101
1:15:10 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]op sharing.
1102
1:15:15 --> 1:15:16
There you are.
1103
1:15:16 --> 1:15:16
Well done.
1104
1:15:17 --> 1:15:23
You'll become a PowerPoint presenter on Zoom in no time.
1105
1:15:24 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]urbing, insightful,
1106
1:15:32 --> 1:15:34
wise coverage.
1107
1:15:34 --> 1:15:41
And I honor your courage in facing that criticism and the attacks on you.
1108
1:15:41 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]e here who have been attacked.
1109
1:15:45 --> 1:15:48
And it's an interesting question, isn't it?
1110
1:15:48 --> 1:15:50
Is life about avoiding being attacked?
1111
1:15:50 --> 1:15:52
Let's reach one of us to consider.
1112
1:15:53 --> 1:15:58
Stephen, as you know, Celia has the first [privacy contact redaction]ions.
1113
1:15:58 --> 1:15:59
I'm sure he's ready to go.
1114
1:15:59 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ions and thoughts, please put your hand up.
1115
1:16:04 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ephen, over to you.
1116
1:16:07 --> 1:16:15
Yeah, Celia, it's very hard to follow that wonderful, brilliant presentation.
1117
1:16:16 --> 1:16:22
I don't think you understand how, at least you speak to some of us.
1118
1:16:22 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]e who get you, I think
1119
1:16:27 --> 1:16:29
you're just a wonderful storyteller.
1120
1:16:29 --> 1:16:31
And also you think aloud.
1121
1:16:32 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] to me, you really talk to me.
1122
1:16:35 --> 1:16:42
So Janine, I also picked up on your why I think you admire Janine.
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1:16:44 --> 1:16:51
More than anybody, as I understand it, you kind of have got her up there,
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1:16:51 --> 1:16:53
even a head of Peter Juesberg, maybe.
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1:16:54 --> 1:17:02
So Joanne, at the beginning of that clip, I think was describing a cult.
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1:17:04 --> 1:17:09
And much of the time you were talking, you were describing a cult, as I could see it.
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1:17:10 --> 1:17:11
A death cult.
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1:17:11 --> 1:17:14
Well, all cults are deadly, maybe.
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1:17:14 --> 1:17:15
Or potentially deadly.
1130
1:17:16 --> 1:17:18
But also the evil of what has happened
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1:17:18 --> 1:17:24
is that they've actually targeted human intimacy with HIV.
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1:17:24 --> 1:17:25
They've done it again.
1133
1:17:26 --> 1:17:28
They've done it again in 2020.
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1:17:28 --> 1:17:30
They love it, don't they?
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1:17:30 --> 1:17:31
They really love it.
1136
1:17:32 --> 1:17:36
So while you were talking, I was reminded that in the last summer,
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1:17:36 --> 1:17:43
I was talking to Kevin Corbett, who is another brilliant mind.
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1:17:43 --> 1:17:44
Brilliant mind.
1139
1:17:44 --> 1:17:49
And he was talking about the rise of virology.
1140
1:17:51 --> 1:17:57
And at the same time, he happened to mention that the immunology had declined in its influence.
1141
1:17:58 --> 1:18:00
And I said, well, those could be connected.
1142
1:18:01 --> 1:18:05
So I began to wonder whether they attacked immunology.
1143
1:18:06 --> 1:18:12
So you could hear Janine describing DNA changing all the time
1144
1:18:12 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] us.
1145
1:18:14 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]s knew all about the wonderful human immune system.
1146
1:18:19 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]icated.
1147
1:18:21 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]icated that we can't even conceive of.
1148
1:18:25 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] look at it in wonder?
1149
1:18:27 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] immunology, of course.
1150
1:18:29 --> 1:18:34
Many things in the world and in the universe are just amazing
1151
1:18:34 --> 1:18:38
and beyond the ken of mere human beings.
1152
1:18:39 --> 1:18:42
And so it's not a matter of logic.
1153
1:18:42 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]e say, oh, we're following the science.
1154
1:18:45 --> 1:18:47
But science is manmade, as I see it.
1155
1:18:47 --> 1:18:52
You know, so it's something else that determines things.
1156
1:18:52 --> 1:18:59
Yes, we can put Concorde at 69,000 feet and fly it to America in two hours and 50 minutes,
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1:18:59 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]
1158
1:19:03 --> 1:19:04
And other amazing things.
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1:19:04 --> 1:19:06
And we can do it again and again.
1160
1:19:06 --> 1:19:07
We can reproduce it.
1161
1:19:08 --> 1:19:15
But the thing is that when it comes to life and death and illness,
1162
1:19:15 --> 1:19:18
I don't think that science has all the answers.
1163
1:19:18 --> 1:19:21
Indeed, when I was at medical school, we were specifically told
1164
1:19:21 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ice of medicine is not all about science.
1165
1:19:25 --> 1:19:26
It's an art as well.
1166
1:19:27 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction] been saying we should follow the science.
1167
1:19:29 --> 1:19:30
I don't know where they got that from.
1168
1:19:31 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]e on hypotheses.
1169
1:19:37 --> 1:19:39
So a hypothesis doesn't come from science.
1170
1:19:39 --> 1:19:42
Yes, you might look at science, but you don't look solely at science.
1171
1:19:42 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]and me?
1172
1:19:43 --> 1:19:48
So they attacked immunology to promote virology.
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1:19:48 --> 1:19:49
Is that a possibility in your mind?
1174
1:19:50 --> 1:19:51
Absolutely.
1175
1:19:51 --> 1:19:52
Very well said.
1176
1:19:53 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]ion of immunology and epidemiology and all of it.
1177
1:20:01 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction] the creation of terror and bombs, essentially, in biology.
1178
1:20:06 --> 1:20:08
The same thing.
1179
1:20:08 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]e.
1180
1:20:09 --> 1:20:12
You know, this is the military-industrial complex.
1181
1:20:12 --> 1:20:16
The CDC, the NIH, the NCI, all these organizations are military.
1182
1:20:17 --> 1:20:19
I'm sure everybody here knows that.
1183
1:20:19 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]..
1184
1:20:20 --> 1:20:22
Peter Duisburg told me that a long time ago.
1185
1:20:22 --> 1:20:24
He said, you know, they're military.
1186
1:20:24 --> 1:20:25
I said, they are.
1187
1:20:25 --> 1:20:27
He said, yeah, you know, they march around.
1188
1:20:27 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction] uniforms.
1189
1:20:28 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]arted to think, oh, yeah, I think people don't realize this.
1190
1:20:32 --> 1:20:34
This is the military.
1191
1:20:34 --> 1:20:40
And in the military, you're not looking for mystery and revelation and exchange and surprises.
1192
1:20:40 --> 1:20:43
It's a domination hierarchy, absolutely.
1193
1:20:44 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]ounding.
1194
1:20:49 --> 1:20:57
So Celia, immunology includes the wonder of us human beings looking at
1195
1:20:58 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]
1196
1:21:02 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ifying the whole nonsense, you know?
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1:21:07 --> 1:21:11
The whole thing that we faced in 2020.
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1:21:11 --> 1:21:16
And HIV AIDS, you know, Kerry Mullis, who died in...
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1:21:16 --> 1:21:18
Well, I think he was probably killed.
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1:21:18 --> 1:21:19
They had to kill him.
1201
1:21:19 --> 1:21:21
He had to die, somehow or other.
1202
1:21:21 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] 2019, he had said that...
1203
1:21:26 --> 1:21:31
So he'd been trying to get a paper.
1204
1:21:31 --> 1:21:34
He'd been asking all his colleagues whether they knew a paper.
1205
1:21:35 --> 1:21:38
HIV is the probable cause of AIDS.
1206
1:21:38 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]arted with.
1207
1:21:39 --> 1:21:41
He ended up asking Montagne.
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1:21:41 --> 1:21:43
And Montagne tried to answer him.
1209
1:21:44 --> 1:21:49
And Kerry Mullis said, well, I'm not happy with that study.
1210
1:21:49 --> 1:21:52
I'm not happy with the other study he mentioned.
1211
1:21:52 --> 1:21:57
And then Montagne, in front of a crowd of people around them, walked away.
1212
1:21:58 --> 1:22:00
So Montagne was...
1213
1:22:00 --> 1:22:01
I didn't know whether to...
1214
1:22:03 --> 1:22:07
He also died in, I think it was February 2022,
1215
1:22:08 --> 1:22:13
about a week after a speech in Milan when he, I think, said
1216
1:22:14 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] humanity.
1217
1:22:19 --> 1:22:19
Do you know about that?
1218
1:22:20 --> 1:22:21
Absolutely.
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1:22:21 --> 1:22:26
Montagne, in our world, in our days, in the late 80s, early 90s, was always...
1220
1:22:28 --> 1:22:29
He wasn't violent.
1221
1:22:29 --> 1:22:30
He didn't attack people.
1222
1:22:30 --> 1:22:32
He wasn't scary like the rest of them.
1223
1:22:34 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ors, cofactels.
1224
1:22:39 --> 1:22:41
And he got beaten, beaten, beaten.
1225
1:22:41 --> 1:22:42
They freaked...
1226
1:22:42 --> 1:22:44
I mean, the climate back then, if you even said...
1227
1:22:44 --> 1:22:49
If you're even, look, Montagne himself, and you say at an AIDS conference,
1228
1:22:49 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ors are important, they freaked out.
1229
1:22:53 --> 1:22:55
I mean, it was the end of the world.
1230
1:22:55 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ors started to come to the microphones and say...
1231
1:23:01 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]..
1232
1:23:02 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]or said, I have patients who are...
1233
1:23:04 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] AIDS, but they're HIV negative by every test.
1234
1:23:08 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]reamed to the microphones and said,
1235
1:23:11 --> 1:23:12
yeah, I have some of those too.
1236
1:23:13 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] quashed it.
1237
1:23:17 --> 1:23:19
It was like social...
1238
1:23:21 --> 1:23:21
It was so...
1239
1:23:22 --> 1:23:28
If you think of woke today and you think of the tripwires and the things that people say,
1240
1:23:28 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] or that that gets them destroyed,
1241
1:23:31 --> 1:23:36
back then it was maybe there's a cofactor, maybe nutrition matters.
1242
1:23:36 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] disgusting,
1243
1:23:38 --> 1:23:41
horrible, irresponsible stuff you could say.
1244
1:23:41 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]e, to their shock, they would just get bludgeoned and bullied.
1245
1:23:46 --> 1:23:49
And so that taught everybody to say the mantra.
1246
1:23:49 --> 1:23:54
And the mantra was, HIV is the single and sufficient cause of AIDS.
1247
1:23:56 --> 1:23:56
Yeah.
1248
1:23:57 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]er to do what they did in 2020.
1249
1:24:02 --> 1:24:02
That's right.
1250
1:24:03 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]s behind them on the, you know, follow the signs.
1251
1:24:10 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction], you know, it's the same.
1252
1:24:12 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] with AIDS as well.
1253
1:24:14 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction], as I understand it.
1254
1:24:17 --> 1:24:19
And anybody who got positive, as you said,
1255
1:24:20 --> 1:24:25
who came back with the positive results of the antibody was given AZT.
1256
1:24:25 --> 1:24:30
But also, as you pointed out, I didn't, I think I've heard that before, but I'd forgotten
1257
1:24:30 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ually anybody who thought they might have been infected
1258
1:24:35 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]art doing a month's course of AZT, one of the deadliest drugs ever,
1259
1:24:40 --> 1:24:41
passing the FDA.
1260
1:24:42 --> 1:24:43
Is that right?
1261
1:24:43 --> 1:24:44
Yeah, it is.
1262
1:24:44 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ually, the orthodoxy conceded in a very evil way that AZT was deadly.
1263
1:24:52 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]udy called the Concord study.
1264
1:24:57 --> 1:24:59
I remember it well, 1993.
1265
1:24:59 --> 1:25:04
The head researcher, a man named Ian Weller, he was literally shaking and white,
1266
1:25:05 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] the results that more people died on AZT.
1267
1:25:09 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] crack in the AZT empire.
1268
1:25:12 --> 1:25:17
And what they did, instead of just destroying and firing everybody,
1269
1:25:17 --> 1:25:24
they knew that the AZT jig was up, and they knew where they were going,
1270
1:25:24 --> 1:25:30
which was, I think there are now at least 100 drugs approved.
1271
1:25:33 --> 1:25:36
Well, they're called, sorry, how am I blanking out on this?
1272
1:25:36 --> 1:25:42
Well, the cocktail therapy, it was like a different class of drugs.
1273
1:25:42 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]ugs were called nukes, which is, you can hear it in the language,
1274
1:25:46 --> 1:25:48
nucleoside analogs.
1275
1:25:48 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]ugs were protease inhibitors, which Dave Raznik is a super expert on.
1276
1:25:53 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]ead of saying, you're right, a lot of people died,
1277
1:25:58 --> 1:26:01
we should all fire ourselves and denounce ourselves,
1278
1:26:02 --> 1:26:04
which I think any normal person would do.
1279
1:26:04 --> 1:26:06
My God, were we wrong?
1280
1:26:07 --> 1:26:11
What they did, and you see this all through COVID, is they turned it into,
1281
1:26:11 --> 1:26:16
they had mantras ready to go, they had woke speak ready to go.
1282
1:26:16 --> 1:26:20
And the woke speak that bridged them out of that was lessons learned.
1283
1:26:20 --> 1:26:22
They said, lessons learned.
1284
1:26:23 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] to protease inhibitors,
1285
1:26:30 --> 1:26:32
we had to learn, it's so narcissistic.
1286
1:26:32 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]s, we've learned a lesson, not we killed 300,[privacy contact redaction]e,
1287
1:26:36 --> 1:26:37
we learned a lesson.
1288
1:26:37 --> 1:26:42
So they kind of throw glory on themselves as they go in their murderous path.
1289
1:26:44 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]n't changed.
1290
1:26:45 --> 1:26:49
I mean, literally, it's some of the same players, most chiefly Fauci,
1291
1:26:49 --> 1:26:54
but Birx and Redfield and all these guys were very well known to us.
1292
1:26:54 --> 1:26:55
Right, Dave?
1293
1:26:56 --> 1:27:00
So, back to the immunologist.
1294
1:27:00 --> 1:27:04
When I was at medical school, the immunologists were the kings of medicine.
1295
1:27:04 --> 1:27:08
The absolute, the most brilliant doctors went into immunology.
1296
1:27:10 --> 1:27:13
And now it's been cast aside.
1297
1:27:13 --> 1:27:17
So what you've got to put it clearly so that people understand,
1298
1:27:17 --> 1:27:25
watching the video later as well, is that they replaced the immunologists who had respect for,
1299
1:27:29 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] of putting it, God's work, if you like.
1300
1:27:32 --> 1:27:36
So the wonder, you know, of isn't nature amazing, you know,
1301
1:27:37 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]d it with a deadly cult.
1302
1:27:44 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction], there wasn't a single symptom that was pathognomonic for COVID-19,
1303
1:27:51 --> 1:27:55
despite their attempts to say, oh, yes, loss of taste, loss of smell.
1304
1:27:55 --> 1:27:57
No, sorry, that used to happen to me when I had a cold,
1305
1:27:57 --> 1:28:01
and especially if I had flu, whatever flu is.
1306
1:28:01 --> 1:28:02
Whatever a cold is.
1307
1:28:03 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction], so they replaced this kind of wonder, human wonder, by a death, deadly cult,
1308
1:28:13 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] the hope.
1309
1:28:16 --> 1:28:18
You said mind rape, I absolutely agree.
1310
1:28:18 --> 1:28:22
So two years ago, I said, as far as I could see,
1311
1:28:23 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] in the previous two years, it's now four years,
1312
1:28:27 --> 1:28:30
was a rape of the human soul.
1313
1:28:30 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]e, don't say that.
1314
1:28:33 --> 1:28:35
And I said, why not?
1315
1:28:35 --> 1:28:39
And there was some, especially Christians would object to it.
1316
1:28:39 --> 1:28:40
I didn't understand why.
1317
1:28:40 --> 1:28:43
To me, it was obvious that it was a rape of the human soul,
1318
1:28:43 --> 1:28:45
or an attempt to rape the human soul.
1319
1:28:45 --> 1:28:47
Maybe they didn't like the word rape.
1320
1:28:48 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] four years,
1321
1:28:53 --> 1:28:58
it wasn't the virus that the people should have been afraid of,
1322
1:28:58 --> 1:28:59
it was the mind control.
1323
1:29:00 --> 1:29:00
Is that right?
1324
1:29:01 --> 1:29:02
Absolutely.
1325
1:29:02 --> 1:29:03
Thank you for that.
1326
1:29:03 --> 1:29:03
Absolutely.
1327
1:29:04 --> 1:29:05
Ding, ding, ding.
1328
1:29:05 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]ly right.
1329
1:29:06 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]ly right.
1330
1:29:08 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction] what I call monarch programming.
1331
1:29:13 --> 1:29:19
If it feels like assault, meaning you're being controlled,
1332
1:29:19 --> 1:29:23
you're being asked to be afraid, you're being demeaned, diminished.
1333
1:29:23 --> 1:29:23
It's wrong.
1334
1:29:24 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]or or healer would do that to a human being.
1335
1:29:28 --> 1:29:30
So you know you're in the presence of the cult.
1336
1:29:31 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]ly.
1337
1:29:32 --> 1:29:36
So it wasn't the virus that people should have been afraid of in 2020.
1338
1:29:37 --> 1:29:38
It was the mind control.
1339
1:29:38 --> 1:29:39
Absolutely.
1340
1:29:39 --> 1:29:44
And our war was, I mean, I told you, they clobbered us,
1341
1:29:44 --> 1:29:47
they silenced us, they finished us off.
1342
1:29:47 --> 1:29:47
Sure.
1343
1:29:47 --> 1:29:49
So thank you so much.
1344
1:29:50 --> 1:29:51
Sure.
1345
1:29:51 --> 1:29:53
So thank you so much.
1346
1:29:53 --> 1:29:57
When it was time for COVID, the world was still a sitting duck.
1347
1:29:57 --> 1:30:00
If they knew about our war, they just knew,
1348
1:30:00 --> 1:30:03
oh, there was some guy named Peter Duisburg, and I think he was wrong.
1349
1:30:03 --> 1:30:05
All I ever read about him was that he was wrong.
1350
1:30:06 --> 1:30:11
And there was a mother who didn't give her child drugs,
1351
1:30:11 --> 1:30:12
and the child died and she died.
1352
1:30:12 --> 1:30:13
And that's all lies.
1353
1:30:13 --> 1:30:16
That's about our friend, Christine Maggiore.
1354
1:30:16 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]ed scapegoats in the media who they presented as,
1355
1:30:21 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]e didn't believe HIV caused AIDS, they died,
1356
1:30:24 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]en, and they had twisted everything around.
1357
1:30:27 --> 1:30:33
But they did a very good job of blocking people from looking into it.
1358
1:30:33 --> 1:30:35
So we're highly social animals, Celia.
1359
1:30:36 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]opping intimate behavior,
1360
1:30:42 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]e, if you like, because that's affected.
1361
1:30:46 --> 1:30:49
Was so anti-human as to be, well, it's very, it was very,
1362
1:30:49 --> 1:30:51
it is very obvious when you've had it pointed out to you.
1363
1:30:53 --> 1:30:59
And so what they did was evil, because they actually told people
1364
1:30:59 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] themselves and their families and everybody else,
1365
1:31:05 --> 1:31:07
they had to isolate themselves.
1366
1:31:07 --> 1:31:09
But that's anti-human.
1367
1:31:09 --> 1:31:11
So that's dreadful advice.
1368
1:31:11 --> 1:31:15
And yeah, from a doctor's,
1369
1:31:15 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] realized sooner than I did that actually,
1370
1:31:20 --> 1:31:25
that, well, it was never, we were never told that at medical school,
1371
1:31:25 --> 1:31:30
but I've worked it out that we are highly social animals
1372
1:31:30 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction], even if the human contact
1373
1:31:33 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]e we agree with.
1374
1:31:36 --> 1:31:38
It's much better to have contact with human beings
1375
1:31:38 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] with human beings at all.
1376
1:31:41 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]e through lockdowns was evil
1377
1:31:45 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] known that.
1378
1:31:48 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] four years
1379
1:31:51 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] never ever consider lockdowns again in the future.
1380
1:31:56 --> 1:32:01
And the UK government, Celia, at the moment is running an inquiry
1381
1:32:01 --> 1:32:03
and the conclusion that they want to get to
1382
1:32:03 --> 1:32:05
is that we didn't lock down early enough.
1383
1:32:06 --> 1:32:08
Sorry, no, we can't allow that.
1384
1:32:08 --> 1:32:12
It's brutality, as I said in my title, brutality,
1385
1:32:12 --> 1:32:13
brutality, dressed up.
1386
1:32:13 --> 1:32:17
If you and colleagues of yours who you know about
1387
1:32:17 --> 1:32:20
would like to write to the COVID inquiry in the UK
1388
1:32:20 --> 1:32:24
and tell them what's what about what we've just been talking about now,
1389
1:32:24 --> 1:32:27
I'd love to do that with you and with anybody else.
1390
1:32:27 --> 1:32:28
Ken Corbett would be one.
1391
1:32:29 --> 1:32:30
I think we need to do it.
1392
1:32:31 --> 1:32:32
Wonderful.
1393
1:32:32 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ory about COVID?
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1:32:38 --> 1:32:40
COVID and brutality from my own life.
1395
1:32:40 --> 1:32:41
Sure, absolutely.
1396
1:32:42 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]eria
1397
1:32:46 --> 1:32:52
and my father was dying at home having nothing to do with any of this
1398
1:32:52 --> 1:32:54
except for that I think his spirit was affected by...
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1:32:55 --> 1:32:56
He was 90.
1400
1:32:56 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction] 90.
1401
1:32:58 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]ed positive.
1402
1:33:04 --> 1:33:10
I can't recall how they did that or who got access to her to test her.
1403
1:33:11 --> 1:33:14
She wasn't worried and naturally none of us were worried.
1404
1:33:14 --> 1:33:18
She wound up breaking her hip and she went into the hospital
1405
1:33:18 --> 1:33:20
and I thought, oh my God, what are they going to do?
1406
1:33:21 --> 1:33:24
I was negotiating to get her out and they wanted to keep her there
1407
1:33:25 --> 1:33:27
for all the reasons you can imagine.
1408
1:33:28 --> 1:33:31
And I fought to get her out and I said her husband, my father,
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1:33:31 --> 1:33:34
is dying and I need to get her home.
1410
1:33:34 --> 1:33:36
She needs to be with him before he dies.
1411
1:33:37 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]or on the phone and I remember he asked me, he said,
1412
1:33:42 --> 1:33:45
is it safe to say that your father is on his deathbed?
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1:33:45 --> 1:33:46
And I said, yes.
1414
1:33:47 --> 1:33:52
Now they had given us, if we were to get Sarah, my stepmother, back
1415
1:33:52 --> 1:33:56
and out of the hospital, they told us we needed to sterilize,
1416
1:33:56 --> 1:34:00
like build, put plastic sheets and get an,
1417
1:34:02 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction] their own bathroom.
1418
1:34:04 --> 1:34:05
There were two bathrooms.
1419
1:34:05 --> 1:34:06
How crazy.
1420
1:34:06 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]aff and all and kept, like, in other words,
1421
1:34:10 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]age crisis that we could get her back if we did all this.
1422
1:34:14 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]or,
1423
1:34:17 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]or, they like to sit up in bed and hold hands and watch TV.
1424
1:34:22 --> 1:34:23
Can they do that?
1425
1:34:25 --> 1:34:28
And he said, it would be better if they didn't.
1426
1:34:28 --> 1:34:29
How ridiculous.
1427
1:34:29 --> 1:34:30
Yeah.
1428
1:34:31 --> 1:34:32
Yeah.
1429
1:34:32 --> 1:34:33
I got her out of there.
1430
1:34:33 --> 1:34:37
I got her out and I got her back and she got to see my father before he died.
1431
1:34:37 --> 1:34:41
But that mentality, it would be better if they didn't when he's dying and she,
1432
1:34:41 --> 1:34:43
I mean, it's so thick.
1433
1:34:43 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]s for it.
1434
1:34:45 --> 1:34:46
Yeah.
1435
1:34:46 --> 1:34:49
So he's dying and he can't do what he wants to do.
1436
1:34:49 --> 1:34:50
How ridiculous.
1437
1:34:50 --> 1:34:52
And he can't do what he wants to do.
1438
1:34:52 --> 1:34:53
How crazy.
1439
1:34:53 --> 1:34:58
I mean, I was saying I need to, he needs to have his wife and his wife needs to be next to him.
1440
1:34:58 --> 1:34:59
And he's dying.
1441
1:34:59 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]and as a doctor?
1442
1:35:01 --> 1:35:02
Well, you know,
1443
1:35:02 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction] he said it.
1444
1:35:04 --> 1:35:07
It would be better if they didn't, you know,
1445
1:35:10 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]er, let's just obey.
1446
1:35:11 --> 1:35:16
Let's just say, yes, yes, we're going to do the two bathrooms and the plastic and
1447
1:35:16 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]erilize the whole bathroom after anybody used.
1448
1:35:19 --> 1:35:22
I mean, these people are absolutely out of their minds.
1449
1:35:22 --> 1:35:24
Well, let's hope that particular doctor doesn't reproduce.
1450
1:35:26 --> 1:35:27
Nice.
1451
1:35:27 --> 1:35:27
All right.
1452
1:35:27 --> 1:35:28
Let's get, thank you, Steven.
1453
1:35:28 --> 1:35:29
Great.
1454
1:35:29 --> 1:35:32
Here's the questions with our hands up and that's 20 minutes now.
1455
1:35:32 --> 1:35:36
So Celia, are you okay to keep going with questions?
1456
1:35:36 --> 1:35:36
Oh yeah.
1457
1:35:36 --> 1:35:37
Oh yeah.
1458
1:35:37 --> 1:35:37
I'm good.
1459
1:35:38 --> 1:35:38
All right.
1460
1:35:38 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction], Charles.
1461
1:35:40 --> 1:35:41
Thank you very much, Celia.
1462
1:35:41 --> 1:35:42
Excellent.
1463
1:35:43 --> 1:35:43
Okay.
1464
1:35:43 --> 1:35:48
Peter, then Dave, Peter Underwood, unmute yourself.
1465
1:35:50 --> 1:35:50
All right.
1466
1:35:50 --> 1:35:52
Thank you, Charles.
1467
1:35:52 --> 1:35:53
Yeah.
1468
1:35:53 --> 1:35:54
Absolutely fascinating.
1469
1:35:54 --> 1:36:02
Thank you so much, Celia, for an absolutely stunning talk.
1470
1:36:02 --> 1:36:09
I'm absolutely overwhelmed by your precision.
1471
1:36:10 --> 1:36:17
I was doing a consultancy job in 1985 at the Welcome Foundation in London.
1472
1:36:20 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]aying in a hotel and I came back and there was a guy at the bar.
1473
1:36:27 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ink before I went to bed.
1474
1:36:32 --> 1:36:38
And I got talking to him and he was a microbiologist working for Shell.
1475
1:36:40 --> 1:36:45
And I told him that I was doing this job at Welcome Foundation.
1476
1:36:45 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]uff on, these plastic things and shoes and goodness knows what,
1477
1:36:53 --> 1:37:00
to go through the lab because of the job that I was doing or the task I had.
1478
1:37:00 --> 1:37:08
And they said, you have to have this because we're working on HIV treatment.
1479
1:37:10 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ained this to him and I said, well, I was quite confused
1480
1:37:15 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]uff.
1481
1:37:18 --> 1:37:20
And he said, oh, he said, that's okay.
1482
1:37:20 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]and that entirely.
1483
1:37:23 --> 1:37:26
He said, I sell bugs.
1484
1:37:27 --> 1:37:28
I said, what?
1485
1:37:29 --> 1:37:31
He said, I sell bugs.
1486
1:37:31 --> 1:37:38
I work for Shell and we genetically engineer bugs, which I sell.
1487
1:37:39 --> 1:37:40
I said, what sort of bugs?
1488
1:37:41 --> 1:37:48
And he said, well, take for example, the one I'm working on at the moment, which is a tracer bug.
1489
1:37:49 --> 1:37:55
He said, we wanted to know how far the sewage goes out and see or whatever.
1490
1:37:55 --> 1:38:09
And they created this bug or something or other to identify the density and of how far the sewage went.
1491
1:38:10 --> 1:38:13
And I said, do you know, I said, what's this HIV then?
1492
1:38:13 --> 1:38:16
He said, well, he said, I've heard about it.
1493
1:38:16 --> 1:38:23
He said, now, from my experience, I will have a conjecture.
1494
1:38:24 --> 1:38:32
He said, if the government came to me and said, look, what we'd like to do is to control drug
1495
1:38:33 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]s.
1496
1:38:34 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] to do that is to knock off the demand.
1497
1:38:39 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]s, the drug users.
1498
1:38:42 --> 1:38:51
He said, if they said to me, well, could you make something, make a bug to control this area?
1499
1:38:51 --> 1:39:02
He said, what I'd do is I'd engineer a bug that would attack the immune system.
1500
1:39:03 --> 1:39:09
And thus, people would die of anything but the bug.
1501
1:39:10 --> 1:39:12
So that's plausible deniability.
1502
1:39:14 --> 1:39:19
He said, I would release it somewhere in African, which is pretty untraceable.
1503
1:39:19 --> 1:39:27
And I'd say, well, it's naturally occurred and now it's going to infect all these people.
1504
1:39:28 --> 1:39:36
He said, and because drug addicts use needles, I'd make sure that the bug would only be
1505
1:39:36 --> 1:39:43
transmitted by fluid, body fluids, things of this kind.
1506
1:39:44 --> 1:39:46
And he went on quite a length.
1507
1:39:47 --> 1:39:49
And he went on quite a length.
1508
1:39:49 --> 1:39:51
He said, I know nothing about this.
1509
1:39:51 --> 1:39:55
He said, I'm just kind of conjecturing as a microbiologist.
1510
1:39:55 --> 1:39:59
This is what I would do to deal with the problem.
1511
1:40:00 --> 1:40:02
That was 1985.
1512
1:40:03 --> 1:40:12
Looking back, I suspect that perhaps he might have conjectured right.
1513
1:40:12 --> 1:40:13
So I'd like to ask one question.
1514
1:40:13 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]e of hours about they, them, people in the ivory tower.
1515
1:40:26 --> 1:40:34
Jerry Brady that I work with very closely and I have identified what we think is they.
1516
1:40:35 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction] any ideas?
1517
1:40:37 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]ion.
1518
1:40:38 --> 1:40:42
I call them, I mean, there are many things.
1519
1:40:42 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]s, fundamentally globalists, fundamentally technocrats.
1520
1:40:52 --> 1:40:54
So who are they?
1521
1:40:54 --> 1:40:56
Gates Foundation.
1522
1:40:56 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] more easily than I can say exactly where they came
1523
1:41:03 --> 1:41:04
from.
1524
1:41:04 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ic of we are a class of people that need to tell you people
1525
1:41:12 --> 1:41:18
all around the world, all the things that you're going to die of and you have to do as we say.
1526
1:41:18 --> 1:41:23
So I can say, I can hear them in three words as soon as they open their mouths.
1527
1:41:23 --> 1:41:24
I can recognize them.
1528
1:41:24 --> 1:41:25
I can see them.
1529
1:41:26 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]and their mentality so well.
1530
1:41:29 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]and their mentality so well and I guess you could say I sacrificed my, I mean,
1531
1:41:42 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]er to do my work and do these stories.
1532
1:41:48 --> 1:41:52
And I can't necessarily say, I can say what spawned them.
1533
1:41:52 --> 1:42:01
It's both industries, economic formations, parasitic rises of things, you know, of these
1534
1:42:01 --> 1:42:05
crazy ideas like single virus theory and so forth.
1535
1:42:05 --> 1:42:05
Yeah.
1536
1:42:05 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]e who are spiritually open to possession, I would say.
1537
1:42:15 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]e open to spiritual demonic possession.
1538
1:42:18 --> 1:42:23
That's what became this cult class around the world.
1539
1:42:23 --> 1:42:29
So it's easier for me to look at what kind of people and you look at a Tony Fauci or Rochelle
1540
1:42:29 --> 1:42:32
Walensky, you know, they speak the same.
1541
1:42:34 --> 1:42:36
I've written a lot about their speech patterns.
1542
1:42:36 --> 1:42:42
I'm all about, you know, words and the way you recognize their speech is that it's empty.
1543
1:42:42 --> 1:42:45
It's not connected to, it doesn't mean anything.
1544
1:42:45 --> 1:42:46
Like we're all talking.
1545
1:42:46 --> 1:42:48
We're connected to meaning.
1546
1:42:50 --> 1:42:51
It's language.
1547
1:42:52 --> 1:42:57
When you hear them talk, it's beyond propaganda.
1548
1:42:57 --> 1:43:01
It's like a dead coded language.
1549
1:43:02 --> 1:43:05
You never know what's behind it or what they mean.
1550
1:43:05 --> 1:43:08
But for me, I always feel a presence of threat.
1551
1:43:10 --> 1:43:12
And they're very, very dull and boring too.
1552
1:43:13 --> 1:43:16
And they speak like the cult.
1553
1:43:17 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] to do that and everyone's going to die.
1554
1:43:20 --> 1:43:21
It's always everyone's going to die.
1555
1:43:21 --> 1:43:24
And with AIDS, they hated good news, right?
1556
1:43:24 --> 1:43:26
So they never said, guess what?
1557
1:43:27 --> 1:43:30
All your trillions of dollars, we've put a dent in it.
1558
1:43:32 --> 1:43:33
We're making headway.
1559
1:43:33 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]s, everything was getting worse.
1560
1:43:36 --> 1:43:42
There was, and they love words like spread and alarming.
1561
1:43:42 --> 1:43:46
And with AIDS, it was, you were supposed to be aware, spreading awareness.
1562
1:43:47 --> 1:43:54
Lots of inversion, spreading awareness meant spreading propaganda and mind control.
1563
1:43:54 --> 1:43:59
So yeah, it doesn't quite answer your question in terms of who they are in the structure.
1564
1:43:59 --> 1:44:01
You know, they are the World Economic Foundation.
1565
1:44:01 --> 1:44:03
They are the Gates Foundation.
1566
1:44:03 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]em.
1567
1:44:05 --> 1:44:05
They're the cabal.
1568
1:44:07 --> 1:44:08
They are the cabal.
1569
1:44:08 --> 1:44:08
Yeah.
1570
1:44:08 --> 1:44:10
Thank you so much, Celia.
1571
1:44:10 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] always come to the conclusion of that.
1572
1:44:17 --> 1:44:20
And you did touch on something that was very important for me.
1573
1:44:20 --> 1:44:31
And that is the essence of God, the spirit, and the beauty and magic of our existence
1574
1:44:31 --> 1:44:33
created by the creator.
1575
1:44:34 --> 1:44:38
And if, well, my defense is my faith.
1576
1:44:40 --> 1:44:50
My belief in a creator and his love and concern for each and every one of us.
1577
1:44:52 --> 1:44:54
I'm a Christian deist.
1578
1:44:55 --> 1:45:01
I believe in a creator and my moral code follows Jesus' teachings.
1579
1:45:02 --> 1:45:06
And I think you've answered the question.
1580
1:45:06 --> 1:45:07
Thank you so much.
1581
1:45:07 --> 1:45:08
You're very welcome.
1582
1:45:08 --> 1:45:09
Thank you for that.
1583
1:45:09 --> 1:45:12
I want to say one thing very briefly.
1584
1:45:12 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]unning.
1585
1:45:14 --> 1:45:19
If you go to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, I did this maybe three years ago.
1586
1:45:19 --> 1:45:26
And you look at their grants, who they give money to, which is everybody, everybody in media,
1587
1:45:26 --> 1:45:28
all the NGO, tons of money.
1588
1:45:28 --> 1:45:32
And that says at the very bottom, here's who we will never give money to.
1589
1:45:34 --> 1:45:36
Any religious organization.
1590
1:45:36 --> 1:45:39
You've nailed it.
1591
1:45:41 --> 1:45:42
Beautiful.
1592
1:45:42 --> 1:45:44
That's a great, great insight, everybody.
1593
1:45:44 --> 1:45:46
Thank you, Peter.
1594
1:45:46 --> 1:45:46
Thanks, David.
1595
1:45:47 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction], just talk about breakdown of nations, because I think it's a very important principle
1596
1:45:52 --> 1:45:59
with what the WHO is trying to do in this whole selling of an idea of we need one world government,
1597
1:45:59 --> 1:46:03
you know, and Lawrence and Leopold courted so well to break that nonsense down.
1598
1:46:03 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction], you go with your question in any event.
1599
1:46:07 --> 1:46:14
I'll tell Celia, such a pleasure and a joy to spend some time with you again.
1600
1:46:14 --> 1:46:16
I mean, you're one of my heroes.
1601
1:46:17 --> 1:46:26
And I mean, it's I can't even think of the words how to express what it was like,
1602
1:46:26 --> 1:46:31
reliving those years again, hearing the story that you were telling,
1603
1:46:32 --> 1:46:36
because you and I lived it, you know, it wasn't like somebody
1604
1:46:37 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]ory, you know, and it was just something.
1605
1:46:41 --> 1:46:50
And I tell you what I think I never really was sad during the AIDS stuff.
1606
1:46:51 --> 1:46:57
But I feel like it never ended, as you as you pointed out, and it's just a continuum.
1607
1:46:58 --> 1:47:00
It's where we're at right now.
1608
1:47:01 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] led there.
1609
1:47:04 --> 1:47:09
And while there were so many, you know, the thing that a lot of folks,
1610
1:47:10 --> 1:47:16
we can't get into it, that went through those years were all the people that died,
1611
1:47:16 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]e, all the wonderful people, you know, and that's still going on,
1612
1:47:21 --> 1:47:22
going on now.
1613
1:47:22 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]e that you and I know, Christy Majority, you brought her up and everything like that,
1614
1:47:27 --> 1:47:32
you know, and and I see Joan Shenton's here.
1615
1:47:32 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]eased to see that Joan Shenton's here.
1616
1:47:36 --> 1:47:41
She's one of the warriors of those years and these years, too.
1617
1:47:41 --> 1:47:42
Yeah, absolutely.
1618
1:47:43 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] had to express my gratitude and just to say hi.
1619
1:47:48 --> 1:47:51
And what an emotional experience it is.
1620
1:47:53 --> 1:47:55
So I'll just let you go right there.
1621
1:47:55 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] had to say something.
1622
1:47:57 --> 1:47:58
Thank you.
1623
1:47:58 --> 1:48:00
Thank you, Dave.
1624
1:48:00 --> 1:48:00
Can you hear me?
1625
1:48:01 --> 1:48:01
I can.
1626
1:48:01 --> 1:48:04
I'm so glad to see you.
1627
1:48:04 --> 1:48:05
Thank you.
1628
1:48:05 --> 1:48:12
It's been terrific to listen to you and to relive some of those horrifying moments of the past.
1629
1:48:13 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]
1630
1:48:17 --> 1:48:17
Thank you.
1631
1:48:17 --> 1:48:19
I want to say one thing briefly.
1632
1:48:20 --> 1:48:27
Joan, so Joan and I were, we were the first generation AIDS dissidents.
1633
1:48:27 --> 1:48:28
Do you remember, Joan?
1634
1:48:28 --> 1:48:30
I remember when there were about five of us.
1635
1:48:30 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]ion and the New York faction.
1636
1:48:33 --> 1:48:38
And Joan, I remember very early, it was maybe late 80s.
1637
1:48:38 --> 1:48:45
I remember finding out that Joan and she did such sensational work and still does at the
1638
1:48:46 --> 1:48:47
with her films.
1639
1:48:48 --> 1:48:52
And she came from the top of the media.
1640
1:48:52 --> 1:48:59
You were working, what was it, BBC Channel [privacy contact redaction]ar.
1641
1:48:59 --> 1:49:01
And they came after her.
1642
1:49:01 --> 1:49:08
So what I remember is there was some terrifying court in the UK where journalists were sort of
1643
1:49:08 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]aints Commission.
1644
1:49:10 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]aints Commission.
1645
1:49:12 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] recently, I opened a folder.
1646
1:49:16 --> 1:49:21
I'd brought some stuff from New York and there it was all about how you were being brought
1647
1:49:21 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]
1648
1:49:22 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] those documents.
1649
1:49:23 --> 1:49:27
And I remember the time being so frightened for you.
1650
1:49:27 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] and you were just right.
1651
1:49:32 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]
1652
1:49:34 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]
1653
1:49:35 --> 1:49:42
But our editor at Channel 4, David Lloyd, famously said, it's like winning a football match
1654
1:49:42 --> 1:49:44
9-0 and being told you've lost.
1655
1:49:45 --> 1:49:46
Right.
1656
1:49:46 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] to degrade and humiliate you.
1657
1:49:50 --> 1:49:54
And I remember that was the beginning of the real terror when I realized and I said, wow,
1658
1:49:54 --> 1:49:59
in the UK, they have these weird courts where journalists get beaten up because they
1659
1:49:59 --> 1:50:01
insulted a pharmaceutical company.
1660
1:50:01 --> 1:50:03
I mean, it just didn't stop the tentacles.
1661
1:50:03 --> 1:50:04
But you.
1662
1:50:07 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]y, I interviewed Celia often in the films we made over the years.
1663
1:50:14 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] Raznik is in them too.
1664
1:50:18 --> 1:50:25
And they're available for free download on our website called the Immunity Resource
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Foundation.
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1:50:26 --> 1:50:29
So it's at immunity.org.UK.
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Someone will type that into the chat.
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1:50:35 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]y.org.UK.
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1:50:39 --> 1:50:39
Thank you.
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1:50:40 --> 1:50:44
Well done, Joan, as being an AIDS dissident.
1671
1:50:44 --> 1:50:45
That's a useful thing.
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1:50:45 --> 1:50:48
Thank you for popping in there, Joan.
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1:50:48 --> 1:50:49
It's wonderful.
1674
1:50:49 --> 1:50:50
Thank you, Charles.
1675
1:50:50 --> 1:50:50
Dave.
1676
1:50:54 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] hang on one second, Stephen.
1677
1:50:56 --> 1:50:57
Stephen, I have to go.
1678
1:50:57 --> 1:50:59
I've made you a co-host.
1679
1:50:59 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ing will run.
1680
1:51:01 --> 1:51:02
You're in charge now, Stephen.
1681
1:51:02 --> 1:51:04
Everyone be alarmed.
1682
1:51:04 --> 1:51:05
Be very alarmed.
1683
1:51:05 --> 1:51:06
No, be concerned.
1684
1:51:07 --> 1:51:10
Charles, can you make someone else a co-host as well?
1685
1:51:11 --> 1:51:11
Tom's a co-host.
1686
1:51:11 --> 1:51:14
So we won't go to the Telegram group.
1687
1:51:14 --> 1:51:15
It'll keep recording.
1688
1:51:15 --> 1:51:16
Stay here as long as you like.
1689
1:51:16 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] to go to an urgent meeting.
1690
1:51:19 --> 1:51:20
Stephen and Tom, you guys can run it.
1691
1:51:20 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]amas.
1692
1:51:21 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ioner after you, Stephen or Joan.
1693
1:51:24 --> 1:51:26
But Joan, it's great that you're here.
1694
1:51:27 --> 1:51:28
Thank you.
1695
1:51:28 --> 1:51:29
Julia, well done.
1696
1:51:29 --> 1:51:30
Stephen, well done.
1697
1:51:30 --> 1:51:31
Everyone keep going.
1698
1:51:31 --> 1:51:32
Yeah.
1699
1:51:32 --> 1:51:32
OK.
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1:51:32 --> 1:51:33
Thank you, Charles.
1701
1:51:33 --> 1:51:34
Thank you, Charles.
