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Yep.
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So are we going now Julie?
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Yes we are.
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All good. Thank you. Give me a phone call, Stan, if you need me for anything.
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Julie, can you make me a co-host?
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Yes I've done that as well. Did that go through?
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Oh thank you.
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Yeah. What are you going to do Tom?
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We're going to throw them out when the...
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I only mute, I just mute mics.
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When our enemies come in.
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Noisy mics. Oh that too, that's true occasionally.
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Yeah the special artwork.
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Yeah. Don't make any exceptions Tom.
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It was about 50 pages long from memory.
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And as a result he's not sending out the invitations,
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but he put the invitations on a website which nobody knew about.
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I certainly didn't know about it.
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It wasn't a website, it was some kind of link.
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And so he said I've advertised it there.
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Europe's equivalent of MAGA.
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And you're leading that aren't you?
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Yeah we kind of are.
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But there is other problems we are having to deal with right now.
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Yeah there aren't too many creative people in Europe,
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Apart from you of course and a few others.
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That's true.
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But he's difficult to get to speak to us.
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you know, bio.
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But I don't think you saw the email.
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I think it was an email.
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Oh yeah, I must have missed that.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, but everybody knows, most people know who you are anyway.
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But maybe, do you have an introduction in your head?
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Well, I mean, I can just say a few words.
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So pretty much I've always voted liberal, conservative.
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So I guess I did vote for Merkel when she came into power the first time.
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But I no longer could vote like that in [privacy contact redaction]ions.
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What had happened was the subprime crisis in the United States
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in its consequence then the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy.
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And that really got me curious.
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And the banks repossessed the houses and stuff like that.
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And that was happening on a massive scale.
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So yeah, I found out, the people have been literally, these mortgages have been literally
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shoved down their throats.
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But they've been coerced pretty much.
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The houses were financed at like 150% and an SUV on top of it.
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And hey, a new television set, why not?
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We throw it all in there, but just buy this house.
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So then the consequence happened that the people lost their houses
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because they couldn't keep up with the payments.
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2007 was my waking up moment.
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So in 2009, I didn't vote at all.
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I went to vote, but I voted invalid.
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And then in 2013, I heard television was watching TV
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and they spoke of a new party being founded.
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AFD was the name of the party and they were critical of the euro.
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So I turned off TV, researched the party, and I was so glad to finally have found a party again
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that I felt represented by, that I shared with most of their program points.
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I'm going to get involved myself.
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And here we are.
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So that's pretty much where I'm coming from.
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So that's the first time I've heard that, Christine.
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So that's good.
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Because I think we've, yeah.
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So what, so the subprime mortgages thing, I don't, I'm not a financial expert, but do you,
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what's your understanding of the motive behind the miss-selling of those mortgages?
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What were they trying to shift?
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Well, it has to do, no, it has pretty much to do with our money system
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because our money is built on debt.
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And, you know, when people always say, well, of course you have to,
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But if everyone paid back their debt, then the money would be gone.
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So if you're going to the bank wanting to take out a loan,
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you're actually getting money that doesn't exist.
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It's simply, you know, a transaction.
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So the bank gives you, well, they don't really give you the money.
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And like I said, our money system is based on debt.
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the currency was backed by gold.
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So they cancel that.
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But in theory, it's, you know, the money should be countered by the services and goods you have.
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But like I said, when you take out a debt, you have to repay that debt.
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But it's not part of that money supply.
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It's an imaginary kind of money that should be there but isn't there.
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It's impossible.
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So at a certain point in time, the money supply will increase the goods and the services.
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So there is no backing of that currency anymore.
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And like I said, you always need to have new debtors that go into debt
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And it's, but at a certain point, it's going to crash.
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And that's what happened with the with the subprime crisis in the United States.
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And like I said, they were looking for people who would take go into more debt,
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And they've been, yeah, these mortgages have been shoved down their throats
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Why did they go to such extremes in 2004, 2005?
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Was it 2003?
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Why were they?
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Well, I mean, they're kind of sold it.
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It's the American dream to own a house.
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Yeah, of course, that is part of the American dream.
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So and they made it, they kind of lured these people into these mortgages
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So they kind of lured them in.
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Well, we've had in the past, it was like that.
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If you wanted to buy a house, you had to come up with your own money,
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You had to put 20 percent of the value of the house down
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and the bank would then be willing to finance the remainder, the 80 percent.
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We'll finance that for you.
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So but when you when you go in and you kind of curse these people,
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trying to make them to take out a mortgage and you lure them in with,
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oh, you don't need any, not only do you not need any down payment,
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And we throw it in an SUV.
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because what the banks then did once they realized
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It was fraud.
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So packages.
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So they had some, you know, high premium mortgages where I was pretty sure
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they would get their money from.
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Then they threw in, you know, more of the kind of the middle ground
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where it was neither here nor there, whether or not they were going to be paid back.
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they would never be paid back on.
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So and they took these bundles.
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And then, of course, you had the rating agencies.
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They looked at them and said, well, this is just great.
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You know, we give it a triple A rating or whatever.
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And then they were sold from one bank to the next bank.
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We're we're doing here not realizing that these rotten mortgages
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and the kind of like the medium kind of mortgages were most likely going to go
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into default and we're not going to be paid back.
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And once that made the rounds that they were pretty much worthless,
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you know, something started in kicked in that they're trying to get rid of it as quickly as
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Was the ulterior motive to create more debt than usual?
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They could, you know, they could repossess the houses.
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So was it?
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That's why I kind of say it was fraud.
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I wouldn't say it was just for the purpose of creating more debt.
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It was for them.
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It's not debt for them.
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For the banks, it's money.
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They're increasing the money supply.
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So that was the motive behind that.
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But of course, the first one, it's like what would you Ponzi scheme?
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Is that what you call it?
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They'll get their money.
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But it trickles down.
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And it's the last one, you know, will actually be the one that is not getting the money back.
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And like I said, then the whole system crashed.
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But what was really horrible about that, I mean, they were playing with
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Luring them into these mortgages.
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And, you know, then they just been kicked out, you know, way in debt.
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The house was gone.
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Everything was gone.
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So why were the regulators held to account, Christine?
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And they knew it was wrong.
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That's just the thing.
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The regulators were either in on it or benefiting from it.
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Or there was such pressure.
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I mean, you know, when you just look at the whole system that we have right now,
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They're all in cahoots with one another.
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So either the regulators, the ones that were actually there to do a job,
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didn't really look closely.
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And then if an agency, you know, comes up, a rating agency, I forgot the names of them,
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you know, if they give them a triple A meeting, who are they, you know, to say,
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well, that's not really triple A because you did, they didn't even bother to check.
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And yeah, once you get into that circle and you have the prospect of making millions and
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millions even as a broker, right?
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Well, you might not want to look that closely either.
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Right.
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Having said that, Christine, perhaps we can't expect much from the banks regulators, can we?
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I mean, it's a bit naive to.
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but I don't think they do their job.
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The banks do what they want.
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Like I said, it's just they're all in, you know, in cahoots with one another,
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whether it's the bank regulators, the banks or politics.
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I mean, all of this, right.
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They're so happy to finally belonging to the club.
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That's what I always say.
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Gosh, I made it.
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I'm in the club now.
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I get to go to dinner with such and such and I get to play golf with you don't know.
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Right.
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So they're so happy to be part of that club and they feel special.
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Yes.
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And they don't want to jeopardize that.
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That's the same with the elected representatives in parliaments.
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Right.
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The majority of them, I mean, it's beyond me, the decisions they're taking.
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If they took their job seriously, they would never take decisions like that.
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But yet they do it.
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And that's just mind boggling.
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Why do they do it?
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Well, the same principle applies here.
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They are so happy to finally belong to that club.
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And they really feel special.
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Right.
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So, I mean, getting an invitation by an ambassador, right.
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You don't go to the ambassador and tell him off and tell him what he's done wrong.
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No, you be kind.
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You be, you know, you don't want to jeopardize your position in life.
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And you look grateful.
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That you feel special.
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And that's why they do it.
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Yes.
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0:17:13 --> 0:17:[privacy contact redaction], I wanted to ask you, Christine, you were in America recently.
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You went to CPAC.
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Right.
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0:17:22 --> 0:17:[privacy contact redaction]ually, you told me what CPAC was because I had heard, but I'd forgotten.
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And it's the conference.
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So the sorry, it's an organization.
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It's the World's Conservatives.
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And they meet in America every year.
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Is that right?
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Yes.
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Did trouble you?
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I'm sorry.
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There is like subsidiaries of CPAC.
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Right.
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They had to move it to Florida because Florida was the only state that would allow a gathering
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of such a magnitude.
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Right.
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I mean, we're talking thousands of people.
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Which year was that, Christine?
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That was, I think, 22.
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What happened in 21 and 20?
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21 or 22.
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It was when, you know, the whole world was pretty much in lockdown.
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And in Florida, Florida was the only state that said, now we're not going to do this
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locking down.
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Yeah.
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Exceptional one year.
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And now there are subsidiaries.
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There is a CPAC Hungary.
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There is a CPAC Mexico, I believe.
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There is a CPAC somewhere in South America.
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I forgot what country it was now.
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0:18:48 --> 0:18:[privacy contact redaction] subsidiaries now and there's going to be CPACs pretty much in every country.
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So, yeah.
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And it's called a conservative political action conference.
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0:19:06 --> 0:19:[privacy contact redaction]ine, did Trump invite you?
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I'm sorry?
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Did Trump invite you?
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No, Trump didn't invite me.
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I was invited by CPAC.
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The organization that said Trump was there.
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0:19:18 --> 0:19:[privacy contact redaction] his speech.
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0:19:19 --> 0:19:[privacy contact redaction] his speech.
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It was a great speech, wasn't it?
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Yeah, it was.
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It really was.
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Yeah.
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Well, it wasn't so much a speech.
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He was kind of talking to the audience.
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And yeah, that's one thing about Trump.
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He never gives like classical speeches.
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He's telling stuff.
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And it's more like a conversation.
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But he is the only one speaking, pretty much.
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How big was the audience, Christine?
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Like thousands.
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Like, okay, in that room, you can probably fit easily 1,000, 1,[privacy contact redaction]e in there.
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But there is thousands there.
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There's so much to do there.
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Yeah.
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And so what did you think of what was going on in America when you were there?
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That was two weeks ago, was it?
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That was two weeks ago.
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Yeah.
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I mean, CPAC this year was really fun.
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And you could really feel there was a different vibe to it.
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I mean, having won the election, right?
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And virtually everyone that was there was a Trump supporter, Mara supporter.
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So of course, we had lots to celebrate.
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But it's always fun going there.
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0:20:47 --> 0:20:[privacy contact redaction]s say, there's a saying in Germany, and it goes,
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And whenever I go to CPAC, I do not have to explain myself.
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And you are challenged on certain issues.
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But it's not that vicarie kind of thing.
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Oh, you hater, and you spread hate speech.
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It is none of that, right?
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So it's always great to go there.
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So this is like a convention, was it?
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Like how many days was it?
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Three days.
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All right.
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And you said all kinds of...
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I mean, do they have loads of entertainment there and whatever?
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Well, it's pretty much just talks, panels, speakers, you know?
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So in the main room, you have some side panels too that you can go to.
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0:21:54 --> 0:21:[privacy contact redaction] like a media row where all kinds of alternative media is there,
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whether it's radio or blogs or online, like I said, alternative media.
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So they're all there just trying to...
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And of course, you have Steve Bannon there with his war room.
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He's always there too.
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And he's pretty much just putting on a show the entire day for like three days straight, right?
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0:22:24 --> 0:22:[privacy contact redaction]eve Bannon, by the way?
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I'm sorry?
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Did you speak to him?
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Yeah, of course.
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Yeah. So he's very...
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I saw a speech...
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And he was very sharp, I thought.
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But I saw a video recently.
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I can't quite remember where it was now, but he was extremely strategic.
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So...
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Yeah, he was very...
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you know, completely obliterated the opposition in a blizzard of executive orders.
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So, you know, they wanted to react to one, say,
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and then by the time they got around to reacting, Trump had done another 10.
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Right.
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Well, I don't know about Steve Bannon's role in the current Trump administration,
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but I know that he, in his first administration, he was his advisor, his campaign advisor.
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So he's close to Trump.
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Yeah.
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He was the chief advisor, wasn't he, at one stage?
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I don't know.
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Something happened.
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I can't quite remember what it was, but he was kind of banished from the White House, wasn't he?
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I don't know what...
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Do you remember what that was for?
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He was banished from the White House.
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0:24:01 --> 0:24:[privacy contact redaction] I didn't hear about that.
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But I mean, when I was in Mar-a-Lago in November, he was there.
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So it's not like that they, you know, had a disagreement or anything.
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They didn't, you know...
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Well, yes, but I can't remember.
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Something happened.
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Didn't Trump sack him?
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But maybe that was for someone else's benefit.
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I don't think so.
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I mean, I would know if that had happened.
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Ah, yes.
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0:24:45 --> 0:24:[privacy contact redaction]eve Bannon, of course, Steve Bannon was in jail too, right?
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Yeah, sure.
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Right.
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So I mean, there was like this lawfare going on against him too.
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But there was no falling out between Trump and Bannon.
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No, I think behind the scenes, they're still talking a lot.
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But officially, I think Trump, you know, was required to...
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Well, maybe because of the lawfare against him.
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That might be the case, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So what did you pick anything up from the MAGA movement in the CPAC conference?
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Or what was the main things in your opinion, if you can remember?
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Well, like I said, it's just, you know, coming together with like-minded people
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What I'm really, or have been trying the past year is
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0:25:40 --> 0:25:[privacy contact redaction]and that this is not only a problem they're having in the United States.
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It's not only a problem we are having in Germany or the English have in England
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or the Italians in Italy.
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We are facing the same difficulties everywhere, especially in the Western democracies, right?
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And it has become abundantly clear during the so-called pandemic,
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the infringement on fundamental rights or even the shift or reframing of fundamental rights,
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how they are now privileges that the government can grant or withhold,
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you know, depending on how you behave.
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So this whole shift in paradigm, that is what we're seeing in,
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like I said, every single Western democracy.
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And, you know, that admiration, they all of a sudden head for China,
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But why did they focus on pretty much the Western democracies?
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It's very simple.
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They didn't have to brainwash the people in China.
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They didn't have to reframe fundamental rights into privileges because
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that already is a totalitarian regime.
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They didn't need to do any of that, right?
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I mean, they literally bricked them in to their apartments to make sure
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0:27:21 --> 0:27:[privacy contact redaction]ern democracies, they couldn't do that, right?
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I mean, all hell would have broken loose if your government had showed up
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and literally bricked you into your home that you couldn't even leave anymore.
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Although, Christine, they did put fences around the Manchester University students.
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I remember that thinking, wow, that's amazing.
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They essentially locked them into their kind of student residences, you know?
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I remember they had these metal, almost like a cage outside the students' buildings.
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It's absolutely extraordinary, isn't it?
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Yeah, but still, they couldn't pull through the way they did it in China, right?
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So, you know, separating children from their parents, you know,
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if you remember these images of like little tiny kids, right?
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In these overalls, they were way too big, right?
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They could carry them.
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I mean, we're talking to one and two-year-old children, you know,
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being escorted off to quarantine camps, having to leave their parents.
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I mean, this is insane.
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But they couldn't do that, like I said, in the Western democracies,
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And this propaganda, no one is safe until everyone is safe,
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and then the built back better, remember that one, right?
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So it was like the same message over and over and over again.
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0:29:11 --> 0:29:[privacy contact redaction]ually a brainwashing that happened there.
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But like I said, they had to focus.
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I'm sorry?
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Yeah, of course.
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You know, when you're wrong and all this nonsense about no one's safe
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until everyone's safe, what a ridiculous thing.
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Yeah, I know.
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You know, at first look, it sounds OK.
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But no, it's not OK at all, because it actually completely denies individuality.
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0:29:44 --> 0:29:[privacy contact redaction], I wanted to mention, it's interesting, isn't it?
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But Sweden didn't need a lockdown.
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Yeah, that's what they had to focus on.
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0:29:56 --> 0:30:[privacy contact redaction]anding of freedom, democracy and the rule of law, right?
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So even freedom, individual freedom, it was now framed.
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You were selfish, you know?
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So it was like, yeah, no, that was actually, I mean, to us, it may have been gaslighting.
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Because they had no, what the government is telling us, this is just, you know,
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they're just doing that for our own good.
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So to that, it was literally brainwashing, right?
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And yeah, that's what they had to do in order to get their way.
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0:30:49 --> 0:30:[privacy contact redaction]or in America, but she's also a journalist, I think, or filmmaker.
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So maybe she wants to make a film about you.
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I don't know.
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Oh, I would love to.
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It would be such an honor.
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But I want to hear about the salient issues in the EU right now, the Ukraine.
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What's going on there?
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Because you're such a wealth of information on that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's like the big thing right now.
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I mean, my head is just spinning, you know, ever since Friday,
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ever since that conversation in the Oval Office took place.
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And it is important that everyone watches the entire 49 minutes,
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Because I mean, what the media is trying to make out of it is that
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JD Vance and Donald Trump, they ganged up on Zelensky and, you know,
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lured him into a trap and all of this.
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But if you watch the entire thing, you will realize in the beginning,
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you know, in Oval Office having so many times already.
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you know, they were rather amicable with each other.
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They were, Trump was even joking, making, you know, jokes and stuff.
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0:32:14 --> 0:32:[privacy contact redaction], you know, kind of like, we would like to do this and, you know, blah, blah.
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But then when it was Zelensky's turn to speak,
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0:32:24 --> 0:32:[privacy contact redaction]ing what he had to say.
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He was agreeing, of course, with Trump.
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0:32:30 --> 0:32:[privacy contact redaction] to criticize him, even in, you know, the first, like, let's say,
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40 minutes, 30 minutes, 40 minutes or whatever.
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And he made it clear that, well, he didn't want to ceasefire.
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What he wanted, and the wording is interesting here,
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0:32:51 --> 0:32:[privacy contact redaction] the peace deal, he wants a just and lasting peace deal.
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So, you know, if you stick these like, like, adjectives in front of a word,
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what you're actually doing is you're, that's conditioning the result, right?
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You put a condition on that.
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And from what I got from that, when he was speaking like that, is,
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he was also speaking about calling Trump like names.
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He called him killer two times.
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0:33:26 --> 0:33:[privacy contact redaction]erer, right?
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And if you are out to get a peace deal with your adversary, you know,
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you might not want to call him names.
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That's always a bad thing to do, right?
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0:33:40 --> 0:33:[privacy contact redaction] if you're honest about, you know, wanting peace, you shouldn't do that.
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And then he said something along the lines that, yeah, of course, we want peace.
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But of course, we can't give this killer, we can't give this killer Ukrainian territory.
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0:33:59 --> 0:34:[privacy contact redaction]eaming of getting the status quo of 22 back, right?
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Which at this point, I think it's impossible.
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Had they done, had they had negotiations, let's say in March, April, May, June,
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even to the end of the year of 22, when it wasn't quite clear how this was going to pan out, right?
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Yeah, it would have been achievable, right?
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0:34:32 --> 0:34:[privacy contact redaction] been told, look here, you cannot invade another country with military means,
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which he can't.
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And, you know, Zelensky is right as that.
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Putin there is the aggressor in terms of invading Ukraine.
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Totally fine.
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Totally fine.
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0:34:48 --> 0:34:[privacy contact redaction] been possible in 22.
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But now, I mean, we're three years into this war.
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0:34:57 --> 0:35:[privacy contact redaction] it's now, it's like, why should Putin, you know, surrender any territory?
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He doesn't have to, right?
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I mean, Ukraine is not going to win this war.
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He isn't.
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So and what the allies did, the European Union.
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Oh, yeah, we're supporting Zelensky and, you know, Putin is a bad guy, blah, blah, blah.
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But what did Germany, for instance, in that example, what did Germany do to back up Ukraine?
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They sent 50 helmets.
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50 helmets.
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I'm repeating that.
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50 helmets.
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And they thought if we sent those 50 helmets, right, then Putin is going to, you know, just
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0:35:42 --> 0:35:[privacy contact redaction]ay dead.
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Yeah, well, that didn't happen, right?
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It was ridiculous, wasn't it?
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It was totally ridiculous.
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So and the thing is this, all they did was talk, right?
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They didn't back their talk up with, you know, heavy weapons.
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They didn't do that, right?
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So that's what got us in the situation we are in now.
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0:36:06 --> 0:36:[privacy contact redaction] to say, look, why should Putin have to surrender anything?
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Right.
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So if Ukraine was smart, but Zelensky unfortunately isn't smart,
633
0:36:17 --> 0:36:[privacy contact redaction] try to salvage as much of his country as possible.
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But he is not in the position, and Trump said it, he doesn't have the cards, right, to make
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any demands.
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But this...
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0:36:31 --> 0:36:[privacy contact redaction]raight, Christine, he said straight away, he said, we're not playing cards.
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I know, I know.
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But it's like, I mean, you know, he cannot make any demands.
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And now we are in a situation.
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So I mean, like I said, this whole conversation in the Oval Office,
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0:36:51 --> 0:36:[privacy contact redaction]etely.
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He brought it upon himself.
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0:36:55 --> 0:36:[privacy contact redaction]akes.
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0:36:56 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction] never gone into a conversation like that, not with a translator.
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I mean, his English is not that good, right?
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, he was arrogant.
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So I mean, he had a translator there.
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0:37:10 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction]and, he was the one that wanted to have this discussion in front
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of the media.
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It was him.
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Why?
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Because Zelensky, he was campaigning.
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That's what he was doing in the White House.
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You know, with the pictures.
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Oh, can I show you the pictures of our soldiers, how they're mistreated by the Russians,
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0:37:35 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction]ures.
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And he showed him like, what, [privacy contact redaction]ures, right?
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So it's like he was campaigning.
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He was campaigning.
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0:37:44 --> 0:37:[privacy contact redaction]e give me money.
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I need money, money, money.
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That's what he was doing.
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And Trump, he didn't want to have any of that, right?
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So yeah, and they told him point blank, look here, you know, we want peace.
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And you said you don't want to ceasefire.
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0:38:05 --> 0:38:06
And he said that repeatedly.
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Repeatedly.
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He doesn't want to have a ceasefire, not without security guarantees.
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But this idiot, I really can't say it any other way.
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He did not even get.
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0:38:18 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction]ates had an economic interest in the United States, they would find a way
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0:38:25 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction]s.
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That was the security guarantee, for God's sakes, right?
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But it wasn't all good enough for Zelensky.
677
0:38:35 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction], here we are now.
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And so Trump said what he did, you know, don't want to sign that deal.
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Well, guess what?
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You're not going to have that deal anymore because we're pulling out.
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0:38:51 --> 0:38:56
And then what do the European leaders do, right?
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0:38:56 --> 0:39:03
They back Zelensky, welcoming back in Europe like he was a pop star or a king of some kind.
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And it's interesting to know how they are now finally.
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0:39:08 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]ing photo in the newspapers.
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0:39:13 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]ure of all of them getting together in London.
686
0:39:17 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]ion read, the coalition of the willing are now coming up with a new strategy
687
0:39:24 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]rategy, right?
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Well, it's kind of interesting.
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Well, it's not going to result in.
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0:39:31 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]ood, Christine.
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How did anybody ever think that Russia would be defeated by Ukraine?
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0:39:38 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction] ridiculous in the beginning.
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0:39:41 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]ill is ridiculous.
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0:39:42 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]s ridiculous.
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I think Trump gets it.
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But I know.
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But the thing is this, I mean, you know, this coalition of the willing,
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I mean, had it been a coalition of the able, you might have actually taken it seriously.
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But like this, they're laughing stock.
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0:40:00 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ock.
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And that's the other thing.
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0:40:03 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ly well.
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He will not get back the country that it was in 22 in terms of territory.
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0:40:14 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction], the only way he stands a chance of getting at least some of it back
705
0:40:21 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ually if the United States put boots on the ground
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0:40:29 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ammer said, boots on the ground and planes in the air.
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That's what he was trying to get the Americans to do.
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Right.
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The Americans will never do that.
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0:40:39 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ly.
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0:40:40 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ammer said we put boots on the ground and planes in the air.
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0:40:44 --> 0:40:46
And like, what planes are you talking about?
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You know, did you see when Trump said to Stammer?
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0:40:52 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ammer was talking big in the White House, you know,
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0:40:56 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]omatic.
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But he did say to him, so you're going to take on Russia on your own, are you?
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Stammer shrugged his shoulders.
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0:41:05 --> 0:41:05
I know.
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0:41:06 --> 0:41:07
But it's ridiculous.
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0:41:07 --> 0:41:14
So they, you know, all back Zelensky and but even Stammer said, you know, yeah,
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0:41:14 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction]s in the air.
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0:41:18 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction]rong US backing.
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But there is no US backing.
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And in terms of that, forget it.
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0:41:27 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction]ine, many European countries, Christine, for far too long have,
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without giving credit to America, depended on America for their security from Russia.
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Yes.
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0:41:41 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction] that any European nation or any combination of European nations
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0:41:45 --> 0:41:47
could take on Russia.
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And the point is that Trump's absolutely right.
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0:41:52 --> 0:41:56
The Europeans are very ungrateful to America and America's been taken for a ride.
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I mean, America has got faults.
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But as far as that goes, the security of Europe has always depended on the United States of America.
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Right.
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0:42:07 --> 0:42:09
Since the end of the Second World War.
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The Europeans were so freaking busy with ensuring that there were daycare centers in the barracks.
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Right.
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0:42:19 --> 0:42:29
They were so preoccupied with making sure that all the transgender people had whatever they needed.
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Their surgeries, cross hormone.
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I mean, seriously.
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0:42:34 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction] this.
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By the time that the whatever German tanks they are left, by the time they are fully loaded,
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because they probably threw them all out, the conventional tanks that now have E tanks, right?
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0:42:52 --> 0:42:55
By the time they are all filled up, the war is over.
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0:42:55 --> 0:42:57
And it's just ridiculous.
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0:42:58 --> 0:43:01
In a war, I mean, if you honestly want to fight a war,
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you can't preoccupy yourself with what kind of pronouns the soldiers have.
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0:43:08 --> 0:43:08
Right.
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0:43:08 --> 0:43:11
This is all ridiculous BS.
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0:43:11 --> 0:43:13
But that's what they were preoccupied with.
751
0:43:14 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]ine, what I was thinking was, you know, Trump, whatever you think about Trump,
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0:43:17 --> 0:43:21
there does seem to be a large part of him which is interested in the truth.
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0:43:21 --> 0:43:26
He gets some things wrong, but he's pretty good actually as far as the truth is concerned.
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0:43:26 --> 0:43:34
In Europe, we've got leaders who are and politicians almost wholesale who do not pursue the truth.
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0:43:34 --> 0:43:36
And now you can see the difference.
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0:43:38 --> 0:43:39
Seeking the truth.
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0:43:39 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]rong you can become.
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0:43:40 --> 0:43:42
Look at Biden.
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Very weak.
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And Europe looks pathetic by America now.
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Yeah, I know.
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0:43:49 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction] this.
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So a man that wants to negotiate a peace deal is being called a fascist and a Nazi.
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And the ones that want to go to war are now, you know, the great Democrats.
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0:44:10 --> 0:44:11
The peace lovers, yeah.
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Wow.
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0:44:13 --> 0:44:13
Seriously.
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0:44:13 --> 0:44:14
Very good, Christine.
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So, oh, sorry, Susan, have you finished?
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0:44:17 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ion?
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0:44:20 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction] want to know what's going on there because it looked like to me like Europe wanted
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0:44:26 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]art World War III and I'm just pulling out.
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0:44:28 --> 0:44:29
It does look like this.
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Yeah.
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0:44:30 --> 0:44:33
And you know, the kicker is this.
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Okay.
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So they had their summit in London.
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And you may know that Germany, we just had elections like two weeks ago
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0:44:44 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ed, but the new Bundestag isn't in office yet.
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Right.
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So there is like another two weeks before the newly elected Bundestag will actually
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get into power and get into office.
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And guess what they're doing next week?
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0:45:03 --> 0:45:10
They're having a sitting of the Bundestag, of the old Bundestag, to vote on what they call
785
0:45:12 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]inary wealth, something like that, extraordinary assets, something like that,
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which of course is debt.
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And they want to go into debt.
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Now, wait for it.
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0:45:25 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]ed billion.
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That's what they want to do.
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And they want to do it with the old Bundestag.
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They can't wait for the new Bundestag to get into office because then they would not be able
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to pass that package because the AfD My Party and the left who are also opposed toward the
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left-left, we would have enough votes in the Bundestag to block it.
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Right.
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0:45:52 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]ag, even though we had elections two weeks ago, will pass next week.
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0:46:00 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]ed billion euros to go to Ukraine.
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0:46:08 --> 0:46:08
Wow.
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Can you imagine?
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From which nations is that?
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0:46:14 --> 0:46:14
Germany.
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Germany.
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Germany.
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Yes.
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That's a trillion dollars.
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0:46:19 --> 0:46:19
Yeah.
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So it's not entirely going to Ukraine.
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It will also rebuild our military.
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0:46:27 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]ure, military infrastructure and all of that that have been
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Right.
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0:46:34 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction] years.
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But like I said, this is insane.
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This is insane.
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0:46:39 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]ed billion euros.
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0:46:44 --> 0:46:54
And another thing about Zelensky, Christine, he once he kept going on about about Ukraine
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joining NATO.
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Oh, yeah.
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0:46:57 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction] repeatedly said it's not going to happen.
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Yes.
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If they couldn't get into their heads that it's not going to happen that Ukraine
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join NATO.
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0:47:08 --> 0:47:09
Yeah.
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0:47:09 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ually looking at a situation Trump might very well consider withdrawing
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from NATO.
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0:47:17 --> 0:47:17
Yes.
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Then what?
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Then what?
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Right.
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0:47:21 --> 0:47:23
Well, then there'll be a panic.
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But yeah, Christine, they're not going to be able to defend
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0:47:26 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction] Russia, not a Russia will attack, but because they don't they don't
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want to know what the truth is about anything, not just the Ukraine.
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I know.
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So they are weak.
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And you saw it with Biden.
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0:47:39 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ionless, except when it came to trans and all that nonsense.
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But he was weak because he wasn't interested in the truth.
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0:47:47 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ed in the truth and he's got the truth by him.
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I think that's the difference.
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So yeah.
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0:47:55 --> 0:48:02
No, I think that's actually the reason why they hate Trump so much is because Trump is
843
0:48:02 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] been telling us for decades that it is impossible to do.
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0:48:08 --> 0:48:09
It could it can't be done.
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Right.
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Like, for example, closing the borders.
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0:48:13 --> 0:48:14
It's impossible.
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You can't close the borders.
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It's impossible.
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0:48:18 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]y doing it.
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0:48:19 --> 0:48:21
Now, look, I just did it.
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Right.
853
0:48:21 --> 0:48:23
So he's proving them liars.
854
0:48:23 --> 0:48:24
And that's why they hate him so much.
855
0:48:25 --> 0:48:26
He builds a 20 foot wall.
856
0:48:26 --> 0:48:27
Yeah.
857
0:48:27 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction], so good for Trump.
858
0:48:30 --> 0:48:33
So Trump may not be the real deal.
859
0:48:33 --> 0:48:38
And he's, you know, we're hearing a lot about AI, which I don't like, and the mRNA injections,
860
0:48:38 --> 0:48:41
which doesn't bother me quite as much.
861
0:48:42 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]urbs me because that's going to take our humanity away from us.
862
0:48:46 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ly what they're intending to do.
863
0:48:49 --> 0:48:52
But Trump doesn't understand that, unfortunately.
864
0:48:52 --> 0:48:53
It doesn't seem to be anyway.
865
0:48:54 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ion for you, Christine.
866
0:48:58 --> 0:48:59
Hi, Christine.
867
0:49:00 --> 0:49:01
Great to see you back.
868
0:49:02 --> 0:49:04
Pleased to see that you're making headway in Germany.
869
0:49:05 --> 0:49:10
One of the things what I'm going to state is that it'll be extremely difficult for
870
0:49:10 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]oyed in Ukraine due to the fact that they've all got track
871
0:49:16 --> 0:49:22
trace termination technology antennas, graphite ferritic nanometamaterial antennas.
872
0:49:22 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]e in the EU do.
873
0:49:25 --> 0:49:29
What we've discovered in the cityscapes, C40 cities,
874
0:49:30 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ronic weaponry on traffic infrastructure.
875
0:49:35 --> 0:49:39
I discovered it in London due to, I don't know if you've heard about them,
876
0:49:39 --> 0:49:41
the bladerunners who chop these things down.
877
0:49:42 --> 0:49:45
I've been an investigator, this electronic assault weaponry.
878
0:49:46 --> 0:49:53
It's a joint venture between Thales, Siemens, D&D, Dab, just about everybody.
879
0:49:53 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ing part about it, the controlling mind called Jamal,
880
0:49:59 --> 0:50:00
it's Thales technology.
881
0:50:01 --> 0:50:03
It's manufactured in China.
882
0:50:03 --> 0:50:08
So we've got an illegal high speed modem which controls this whole weapons,
883
0:50:08 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]em.
884
0:50:10 --> 0:50:12
It's operated by an EI.
885
0:50:12 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]evens concerned about EI?
886
0:50:14 --> 0:50:18
Well, I'd be very concerned about EI, especially if I had that track trace
887
0:50:18 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ed.
888
0:50:21 --> 0:50:25
And it's the operating platform is called Azure.
889
0:50:25 --> 0:50:31
It's Microsoft's, and it's the collaboration between Lockheed Martin and Thales.
890
0:50:31 --> 0:50:37
So we've got the whole military industrial complex planning a mass murder.
891
0:50:39 --> 0:50:41
They've injected more soldiers.
892
0:50:41 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]icated electronic assault weapon, as I know.
893
0:50:45 --> 0:50:47
It's never been used yet.
894
0:50:48 --> 0:50:53
And what I'm going to suggest is if anybody deploys in large numbers in that battle space,
895
0:50:54 --> 0:50:55
they're not going to last very long.
896
0:50:56 --> 0:51:01
The equipment was developed by the DOD in DARPA to track trace and terminate
897
0:51:01 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] soldiers on a battlefield.
898
0:51:03 --> 0:51:05
As a consequence, you can switch them off.
899
0:51:05 --> 0:51:09
So it's going to be quite an interesting time, but I would definitely
900
0:51:09 --> 0:51:19
take a look at a roundabout cityscapes for innocuous looking transmitters on traffic
901
0:51:19 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ure, because all to the same plants, all world economic forum, C40 city, George Soros
902
0:51:24 --> 0:51:25
agenda.
903
0:51:26 --> 0:51:27
It's all in connect.
904
0:51:27 --> 0:51:34
So up to now, I would suggest it be very dangerous for Donald Trump to travel to London.
905
0:51:35 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ly through vehicles with this equipment.
906
0:51:38 --> 0:51:41
There's not much things stop it.
907
0:51:41 --> 0:51:43
It's what's called fusion technology.
908
0:51:43 --> 0:51:48
It's a link between laser detection, ranging and radar directional weapons.
909
0:51:48 --> 0:51:51
So we've discovered quite a lot of it in the London area.
910
0:51:52 --> 0:51:57
Anybody, any diplomats, any foreign nationals who can be tracked,
911
0:51:57 --> 0:52:02
trace, there'll be an awful lot who do and have, you know, the they've had the COVID-19
912
0:52:02 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ion.
913
0:52:03 --> 0:52:06
They are exhibiting the media access code.
914
0:52:06 --> 0:52:08
I mean, I test them all the time with a blue.
915
0:52:08 --> 0:52:10
I've got a blue to scanner.
916
0:52:10 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]aurants and I check and see how many people are exhibiting the media access
917
0:52:15 --> 0:52:15
code.
918
0:52:15 --> 0:52:18
It's quite, quite, quite interesting.
919
0:52:18 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ry of Defense and the Bundeswehr.
920
0:52:23 --> 0:52:25
So they're all involved in it.
921
0:52:26 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ing.
922
0:52:28 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction] caught them.
923
0:52:29 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction] that there's a war in Ukraine.
924
0:52:32 --> 0:52:34
Actually can't pull the trigger.
925
0:52:34 --> 0:52:39
And I'm just trying to find out, Christine, how many people do you think in the EU?
926
0:52:40 --> 0:52:41
No, anything about this.
927
0:52:44 --> 0:52:49
Probably pretty much like what five or [privacy contact redaction]
928
0:52:50 --> 0:52:50
Yeah.
929
0:52:51 --> 0:52:51
Yeah.
930
0:52:51 --> 0:52:58
I mean, it's like that is the problem, you know, people enlarge, they completely lost
931
0:52:58 --> 0:52:59
their critical thinking.
932
0:53:00 --> 0:53:00
Right.
933
0:53:01 --> 0:53:04
They don't they don't question anything anymore.
934
0:53:04 --> 0:53:09
You know, if their TV tells them, you know, hey, you need to get an mRNA injection
935
0:53:09 --> 0:53:10
because it's good for you.
936
0:53:10 --> 0:53:12
You know, they run out and do it.
937
0:53:12 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ioning anything anymore.
938
0:53:16 --> 0:53:18
So and that pertains to a lot of issues.
939
0:53:18 --> 0:53:23
And what you've just been telling me, I don't know a whole lot about that.
940
0:53:23 --> 0:53:30
I know about, you know, there is some technology out there to, yeah, possibly even
941
0:53:30 --> 0:53:31
manipulate your mind.
942
0:53:31 --> 0:53:32
Right.
943
0:53:32 --> 0:53:36
But I don't know a whole lot about that.
944
0:53:36 --> 0:53:37
I really don't.
945
0:53:38 --> 0:53:43
There's a there's a unit that's a phased-area weapon system.
946
0:53:44 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ually comes that specifically that's a radar gun site.
947
0:53:49 --> 0:53:52
It's actually got a gun site and it aim it into the traffic.
948
0:53:53 --> 0:53:56
This piece, yes, a phased-area antenna.
949
0:53:56 --> 0:53:57
All right.
950
0:53:57 --> 0:53:59
It's what's called rad hardened.
951
0:53:59 --> 0:54:04
How I know that you've got it, you've actually got your resistor plate here.
952
0:54:05 --> 0:54:11
You've then got this aluminium block and the electronic piece plugs in here
953
0:54:11 --> 0:54:15
because obviously you don't want the antenna to burn out your electronics.
954
0:54:15 --> 0:54:19
So that's actually part of a weapon system which we discovered.
955
0:54:23 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]ware.
956
0:54:25 --> 0:54:28
There's the electronics and electronics.
957
0:54:28 --> 0:54:31
You'll see how I know it's rad hardened.
958
0:54:31 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] the electronics.
959
0:54:34 --> 0:54:36
You see the antenna design.
960
0:54:37 --> 0:54:39
The antennas on this side of the block.
961
0:54:40 --> 0:54:42
You've then got all that protection.
962
0:54:42 --> 0:54:46
You've got a resistor plate here and then the electronics is on the back side.
963
0:54:46 --> 0:54:48
She's the one to burn them out.
964
0:54:48 --> 0:54:53
So that tells me and it's got enough capacitance, enough induction, enough capacitance.
965
0:54:53 --> 0:54:56
It'd be really pretty, pretty powerful.
966
0:54:56 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] on the top of your traffic lights with a gun sight.
967
0:55:03 --> 0:55:04
You're not ready to kill somebody?
968
0:55:08 --> 0:55:08
Yeah.
969
0:55:08 --> 0:55:09
What do you say, Mark?
970
0:55:10 --> 0:55:11
You want that?
971
0:55:13 --> 0:55:14
What did you say then?
972
0:55:14 --> 0:55:14
I missed it.
973
0:55:17 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ion range and phased-area weapon systems.
974
0:55:22 --> 0:55:25
I'm telling you the fact that they're not hardened, Stephen.
975
0:55:26 --> 0:55:31
If this was a normal phased-area unit, you'd actually have the electronics on this side
976
0:55:31 --> 0:55:33
because you're not going to run hot.
977
0:55:33 --> 0:55:39
When it runs hot, you have to protect the electronics which are at the back side.
978
0:55:39 --> 0:55:43
You've got an air gap plus a resistor plate to protect them plus that sink plate.
979
0:55:43 --> 0:55:45
You've got this aluminium block.
980
0:55:45 --> 0:55:47
You've got a resistor here.
981
0:55:47 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ware is going to run hot.
982
0:55:52 --> 0:55:53
It's a weapon system.
983
0:55:53 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ronic assault weapons that are all over cityscapes.
984
0:56:00 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]ed Kingdom, we've discovered this equipment and it works with
985
0:56:03 --> 0:56:06
another part of a piece of equipment called LIDAR.
986
0:56:07 --> 0:56:12
The LIDAR elements, what Transport for London told me,
987
0:56:14 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]ion range and technology.
988
0:56:17 --> 0:56:18
So these work together.
989
0:56:18 --> 0:56:19
It's called fusion.
990
0:56:19 --> 0:56:21
So you've got two sets of antennas.
991
0:56:22 --> 0:56:24
You've got a laser detection range in part here.
992
0:56:24 --> 0:56:29
I've got a potential 174 watts and it's not killing you with four.
993
0:56:29 --> 0:56:31
So this is a laser weapon.
994
0:56:31 --> 0:56:35
It works with this antenna.
995
0:56:35 --> 0:56:36
So it's basically unstoppable.
996
0:56:36 --> 0:56:42
You've got this which can actually facial recognise the target
997
0:56:42 --> 0:56:44
and then you've got this bit.
998
0:56:44 --> 0:56:45
I can fire that through a vehicle.
999
0:56:45 --> 0:56:46
Not a problem at all.
1000
0:56:47 --> 0:56:48
Got no safety from it.
1001
0:56:51 --> 0:56:52
Very good, Mark.
1002
0:56:52 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]ine?
1003
0:56:55 --> 0:57:00
Yeah, I want to ask how many people in the European Union know somebody's planning to kill them?
1004
0:57:02 --> 0:57:04
Well, it's called NeuroStrike.
1005
0:57:05 --> 0:57:10
The weapons controlled by a piece of equipment developed by Thales called its Gemalto.
1006
0:57:10 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ured by Hewe.
1007
0:57:13 --> 0:57:15
Hewe was already banned in 2022.
1008
0:57:16 --> 0:57:18
So you've got a Chinese control.
1009
0:57:18 --> 0:57:23
The control and mind of the laser radar weapon is Hewe.
1010
0:57:26 --> 0:57:30
And Hewe is one of the big Chinese companies, is it?
1011
0:57:30 --> 0:57:32
It's the Chinese company that were banned in 2022.
1012
0:57:33 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction], there was lots of warnings by the intelligence
1013
0:57:36 --> 0:57:38
and it's about this particular type of equipment.
1014
0:57:38 --> 0:57:42
It's a high-speed modem and what they've actually done, they've rebranded it.
1015
0:57:43 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction] rebranded it as a brand name called Gemalto.
1016
0:57:47 --> 0:57:50
Now, obviously Thales manufacture electronic assault weapons.
1017
0:57:51 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ronic assault weapons.
1018
0:57:53 --> 0:57:55
So we've got two companies.
1019
0:57:56 --> 0:58:00
I mean, these transmitters, these are misoscopic.
1020
0:58:00 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ually look down into the nanoscale.
1021
0:58:04 --> 0:58:07
Well, I know exactly what those nanoparticles are looking for.
1022
0:58:07 --> 0:58:08
It's what people have been injected with.
1023
0:58:08 --> 0:58:09
Very good, Mark.
1024
0:58:10 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ion, please stick your hand up and I'll,
1025
0:58:16 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction], you can get on right now if you want,
1026
0:58:18 --> 0:58:21
because we're waiting for some questions.
1027
0:58:22 --> 0:58:25
So occasionally, Christine, people on this group get a bit shy.
1028
0:58:25 --> 0:58:28
I don't know, or lazy or sleepy.
1029
0:58:30 --> 0:58:33
And we try, oh, suddenly we've got some questions.
1030
0:58:33 --> 0:58:36
So Carrie, Carrie is a medical student.
1031
0:58:36 --> 0:58:40
Carrie, Carrie is a medical doctor in America somewhere.
1032
0:58:41 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ions.
1033
0:58:44 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] said anyway?
1034
0:58:49 --> 0:58:51
So I'm getting the ball rolling.
1035
0:58:51 --> 0:58:57
And yeah, anyway, I'm hoping to get Mark Steele's information to Elon Musk, Trump, etc.
1036
0:58:57 --> 0:58:59
And I'm a very persistent bugger.
1037
0:58:59 --> 0:59:03
Okay, so that's my job these days.
1038
0:59:04 --> 0:59:07
What I wondered, Christine, is do you think,
1039
0:59:07 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e clamoring for the US to leave the United Nations?
1040
0:59:11 --> 0:59:13
Now, I agree that we should leave NATO.
1041
0:59:13 --> 0:59:15
100% get out of NATO now.
1042
0:59:16 --> 0:59:19
It's an anachronism as far as I'm concerned.
1043
0:59:19 --> 0:59:23
It doesn't form any kind of purpose for America at all.
1044
0:59:25 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]ent bugger self and leave NATO, dissolve.
1045
0:59:31 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]s, I'm sorry, but won't that just
1046
0:59:35 --> 0:59:37
all the World War Three thing will evaporate, right?
1047
0:59:38 --> 0:59:39
Yeah, what are they going to do?
1048
0:59:41 --> 0:59:44
I think that's the way out is just to leave.
1049
0:59:44 --> 0:59:49
And frankly, if I were Trump, I would go ahead and make that mineral agreement with Russia, frankly.
1050
0:59:49 --> 0:59:49
But that's me.
1051
0:59:49 --> 0:59:52
Okay, so I don't know about that end, but that's what I would do.
1052
0:59:52 --> 0:59:54
But leaving, you agree, leave NATO.
1053
0:59:56 --> 1:00:00
The whole notion that Russia wants to attack Europe, I think it's pie in the sky.
1054
1:00:00 --> 1:00:01
They've never been.
1055
1:00:02 --> 1:00:03
Russia is.
1056
1:00:03 --> 1:00:10
Our mission is the argument is that Hitler went into Poland to rescue the Germans in Poland.
1057
1:00:10 --> 1:00:11
Initially.
1058
1:00:11 --> 1:00:11
Well, that's true.
1059
1:00:12 --> 1:00:13
And yes, that's similar.
1060
1:00:13 --> 1:00:18
But that does not, you know, it's like, so that does not mean it's the same thing.
1061
1:00:19 --> 1:00:19
You know what I'm saying?
1062
1:00:19 --> 1:00:24
That's that's what I've heard from military people who are brainwashed that I know.
1063
1:00:25 --> 1:00:27
But he's another Hitler.
1064
1:00:27 --> 1:00:30
He's going he's taken Crimea and he's going to go on to the whole world.
1065
1:00:31 --> 1:00:33
Well, you know, he's not me.
1066
1:00:34 --> 1:00:37
It's not as if we need these little countries, is it?
1067
1:00:37 --> 1:00:38
Carrie?
1068
1:00:39 --> 1:00:44
Well, you know, even Germany, there are a lot of reasons.
1069
1:00:44 --> 1:00:48
I'd say Russia proved itself by not bombing the hell out of us.
1070
1:00:48 --> 1:00:51
Frankly, I thought we were all going to die.
1071
1:00:51 --> 1:00:54
I thought this is thermonuclear Armageddon, Carmageddon.
1072
1:00:54 --> 1:00:57
It's over with, you know, I don't know if you did, but I did.
1073
1:00:58 --> 1:00:59
It's like it's over.
1074
1:00:59 --> 1:01:02
I'm like, oh, God, I love and I was like, I even wrote Putin.
1075
1:01:02 --> 1:01:03
Thank you.
1076
1:01:03 --> 1:01:04
Thank you.
1077
1:01:04 --> 1:01:07
Thank you so much for being patient and not killing us.
1078
1:01:07 --> 1:01:10
You know, what a good Christmas present.
1079
1:01:10 --> 1:01:11
All right.
1080
1:01:11 --> 1:01:12
So that's me.
1081
1:01:12 --> 1:01:15
I mean, this man is he's got four hawks on his back, too.
1082
1:01:15 --> 1:01:18
So I'm thinking I don't care what he did.
1083
1:01:18 --> 1:01:20
KGB, whatever right now.
1084
1:01:20 --> 1:01:22
He's making sense to me.
1085
1:01:22 --> 1:01:23
All right.
1086
1:01:23 --> 1:01:25
A lot of what he's doing is making sense.
1087
1:01:25 --> 1:01:29
And the man didn't kill us all, didn't start World War Three, even though he's directly
1088
1:01:29 --> 1:01:31
provoked by the US.
1089
1:01:31 --> 1:01:31
I'm sorry.
1090
1:01:31 --> 1:01:33
You know, so anyway, that's my idea.
1091
1:01:33 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction] NATO.
1092
1:01:35 --> 1:01:35
Yay.
1093
1:01:35 --> 1:01:37
Let's just solve that garbage.
1094
1:01:37 --> 1:01:39
Now, my question to you really is the UN.
1095
1:01:40 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]ed Nations?
1096
1:01:42 --> 1:01:45
And is that is there any good?
1097
1:01:45 --> 1:01:51
I wouldn't say move out immediately, but is there any good that can come out of staying there?
1098
1:01:51 --> 1:01:54
And or is it, you know, that's my question.
1099
1:01:55 --> 1:01:55
I guess you get it.
1100
1:01:57 --> 1:01:58
Yeah, I got it.
1101
1:01:59 --> 1:02:09
The UN, you know, may have started out as a good idea, but what it involved into at this point,
1102
1:02:09 --> 1:02:14
I'm even willing to say what is doing now.
1103
1:02:14 --> 1:02:16
It's exactly the purpose for what it was founded.
1104
1:02:17 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction] another entity.
1105
1:02:25 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]e used to the idea that there one day will in fact be a world government.
1106
1:02:31 --> 1:02:32
Absolutely.
1107
1:02:32 --> 1:02:34
That's like a first step, right?
1108
1:02:36 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction] the same here in Europe with the EU institutions.
1109
1:02:41 --> 1:02:49
So in Germany, it is or in Europe, it is more difficult to convince the Europe, the peoples
1110
1:02:49 --> 1:02:56
of Europe to come under a one world government umbrella because, I mean,
1111
1:02:56 --> 1:03:03
we live on this rather small continent with so many different peoples, cultures, history,
1112
1:03:03 --> 1:03:07
languages, you know, collective memory.
1113
1:03:07 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]e.
1114
1:03:11 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]es in Europe, they're proud.
1115
1:03:14 --> 1:03:16
They're a proud people, right?
1116
1:03:17 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] walked in and said, well, look, we're just going to, you know,
1117
1:03:22 --> 1:03:24
come together under this world government.
1118
1:03:24 --> 1:03:30
No, in Europe, they had to pull in like a stepping stone, which is the EU institutions.
1119
1:03:31 --> 1:03:36
And now the European members, they've been stripped of their sovereignty,
1120
1:03:36 --> 1:03:38
stripped of their rights.
1121
1:03:38 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]es are being removed further and further away from the people
1122
1:03:43 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]itutions where there is no real political accountability anymore.
1123
1:03:49 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] the same thing on a global level with the UN.
1124
1:03:55 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction] a part of what I call the globalitarian misanthropists.
1125
1:04:04 --> 1:04:13
Right. And so if they were to look out for, you know, to better poor people's lives or
1126
1:04:13 --> 1:04:18
whatever they claim they want to do, or, you know, if they claim they're going to take care
1127
1:04:18 --> 1:04:20
of refugees, right?
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1:04:20 --> 1:04:26
No, actually, they're perpetuating the situation that we are, you know, especially in Germany,
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1:04:27 --> 1:04:30
feeling with this illegal mass invasion.
1130
1:04:30 --> 1:04:31
Right. What is happening?
1131
1:04:32 --> 1:04:36
So you might remember 2015.
1132
1:04:37 --> 1:04:42
And fall, Merkel, she just ripped the German borders wide open.
1133
1:04:42 --> 1:04:46
Right. Everyone, there was no checking anymore.
1134
1:04:46 --> 1:04:51
Anyone that wanted to come in and claim asylum, come on in, come on in, come on in.
1135
1:04:51 --> 1:04:55
Right. So it was like, you know, just come on over.
1136
1:04:56 --> 1:05:03
And when she was criticized for that, she, you know, pretty much like a three or stumped her foot.
1137
1:05:03 --> 1:05:08
And she was like, well, if I can't show a friendly face at the border anymore,
1138
1:05:08 --> 1:05:10
then this is no longer my country.
1139
1:05:11 --> 1:05:17
That's how she countered the criticism for, you know, just letting just about anyone walk in.
1140
1:05:18 --> 1:05:19
Okay. But the point is this.
1141
1:05:19 --> 1:05:21
How did it even get to that point?
1142
1:05:22 --> 1:05:26
And when she's speaking about wanting to make a friendly face,
1143
1:05:27 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ion, where was her friendly face
1144
1:05:32 --> 1:05:34
in January of 2015?
1145
1:05:35 --> 1:05:36
What happened?
1146
1:05:37 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]e don't know that.
1147
1:05:39 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] a war somewhere, a civil war or whatever kind of war it is,
1148
1:05:44 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] war refugees.
1149
1:05:46 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]s the UN, they put up refugee camps in the, you know, the neighboring states.
1150
1:05:55 --> 1:05:58
And they took care of these war refugees.
1151
1:05:59 --> 1:06:08
And all the nations around the world paid the UN $33 a month per refugee.
1152
1:06:09 --> 1:06:11
So they can feed them, they can put up, right?
1153
1:06:12 --> 1:06:20
So, I mean, the war community came up with that money, $33 per month per refugee.
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1:06:20 --> 1:06:27
So that the UN could, you know, do the camps and work with the camps and feed the people.
1155
1:06:28 --> 1:06:38
And in January 2015, what did the world community decide to cut those funds from $33 a month
1156
1:06:38 --> 1:06:42
to $12 a month per refugee?
1157
1:06:43 --> 1:06:51
So these refugees in these UN camps, they were literally starving because they no longer had
1158
1:06:51 --> 1:07:00
food. And that's what prompted them to then flee these refugee camps to seek a better life
1159
1:07:00 --> 1:07:02
somewhere else where they could get food.
1160
1:07:02 --> 1:07:10
And that's what, you know, got the ball rolling with this massive influx of these refugees.
1161
1:07:11 --> 1:07:16
Where was her friendly face when they cut down the amount of $12?
1162
1:07:17 --> 1:07:18
She didn't say anything.
1163
1:07:18 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]
1164
1:07:20 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction] did it, right?
1165
1:07:22 --> 1:07:24
And that's how we are being lied to.
1166
1:07:24 --> 1:07:32
And to prove that, I mean, that was a deliberate setting into motion of that refugee crisis.
1167
1:07:32 --> 1:07:34
They deliberately set that into motion.
1168
1:07:34 --> 1:07:35
That's what they did.
1169
1:07:35 --> 1:07:36
I remember that.
1170
1:07:36 --> 1:07:41
I was in Hamburg visiting my German family and they pointed it out to me.
1171
1:07:41 --> 1:07:42
It was unbelievable.
1172
1:07:44 --> 1:07:49
They had this huge influx in 2015 and I saw this floating boat.
1173
1:07:50 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ly.
1174
1:07:51 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]anding on the train tracks and the stations and they were
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1:07:57 --> 1:08:00
throwing teddy bears at them, you know, to welcome them.
1176
1:08:00 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] sitting there and I was like, how can you celebrate your own demise?
1177
1:08:06 --> 1:08:08
Because that's what we were doing.
1178
1:08:08 --> 1:08:13
Celebrating, welcoming even our own demise.
1179
1:08:13 --> 1:08:17
But like I said, that's what the UN does, right?
1180
1:08:17 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] cutting the funds.
1181
1:08:19 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] of what it used to be pretty much.
1182
1:08:23 --> 1:08:27
And then, well, you know, these poor refugees, now you have to take them in and help them.
1183
1:08:27 --> 1:08:28
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
1184
1:08:28 --> 1:08:31
So you wouldn't miss the UN very much.
1185
1:08:31 --> 1:08:32
I'm sorry?
1186
1:08:32 --> 1:08:33
You wouldn't miss the UN that much.
1187
1:08:35 --> 1:08:36
Not only would I not miss it.
1188
1:08:36 --> 1:08:41
Oh gosh, the world would be a way better place if we didn't have the UN.
1189
1:08:41 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] how the world would be.
1190
1:08:42 --> 1:08:44
I miss your fiery speeches.
1191
1:08:44 --> 1:08:45
I miss your fiery speeches.
1192
1:08:46 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] how the world would be a much healthier place without the WHO.
1193
1:08:52 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]ine, I love you.
1194
1:08:55 --> 1:08:55
Yeah.
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1:08:57 --> 1:09:00
So Tom Rotman's next, Christine.
1196
1:09:03 --> 1:09:06
Well, hi, thank you for coming on.
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1:09:07 --> 1:09:13
So I'm not sure if I got this right, but I think it might have been Daniel Estelan went over.
1198
1:09:14 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]ory and he covered Germany.
1199
1:09:17 --> 1:09:26
And, you know, I'm not very good at history, but he hit on 1945 through 48 as being a really dark
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1:09:26 --> 1:09:30
period where we sort of set the precedent.
1201
1:09:32 --> 1:09:37
Again, I hope I'm remembering it was Daniel doing the fire bombing.
1202
1:09:37 --> 1:09:42
And, you know, what it set the precedent for was taking out civilians.
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1:09:42 --> 1:09:45
I know that's a really dark, scary subject.
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1:09:47 --> 1:09:49
But I thought I'd mention that.
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1:09:49 --> 1:09:55
And then I wanted to mention to you on a lighter topic, the banking situation.
1206
1:09:55 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] this image of Germany having a lot of small banks, which is small independent banks,
1207
1:10:00 --> 1:10:01
which is a good thing.
1208
1:10:02 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] been all bought up.
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1:10:05 --> 1:10:12
I remember around 2009, a lot of the state banks, we had all these independent
1210
1:10:12 --> 1:10:19
state banks and they've all been bought up and by Harris Bank, which became BMO Harris.
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1:10:21 --> 1:10:26
But related to this back in 2012,
1212
1:10:26 --> 1:10:31
Dennis Kucinich and Conyers in the US proposed this need act.
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1:10:31 --> 1:10:32
And I put it in the chat.
1214
1:10:32 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] the chat.
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1:10:34 --> 1:10:40
If you don't know about that, it's a way of retiring the US federal debt
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1:10:41 --> 1:10:43
and issuing sovereign debt free money.
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1:10:44 --> 1:10:46
It's complicated, but really interesting.
1218
1:10:47 --> 1:10:52
And then I mean, you can comment on any of these things.
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1:10:52 --> 1:10:57
The other one, big one is how do you think is there any chance of,
1220
1:10:58 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ess head on the Nord Stream pipeline?
1221
1:11:04 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] that it was probably the US that destroyed it.
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1:11:11 --> 1:11:17
And I think that's about all I have except that Estelan went over
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1:11:19 --> 1:11:22
World War I and World War II in Germany.
1224
1:11:22 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] don't know.
1225
1:11:25 --> 1:11:31
And it seems like, yeah, that's a big can of worms.
1226
1:11:31 --> 1:11:36
I think the main reason I wanted to ask the question was about the Nord Stream pipeline.
1227
1:11:36 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction], it's just spelled like the word need and then act.
1228
1:11:41 --> 1:11:43
You can find it on Wikipedia.
1229
1:11:43 --> 1:11:44
Thank you.
1230
1:11:44 --> 1:11:45
Okay.
1231
1:11:45 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction] you mentioned, that's actually the first I'm hearing about that.
1232
1:11:52 --> 1:11:55
It's really, it's absolutely crucial.
1233
1:11:55 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ephen Sarlinga has written like an 800 page book on it.
1234
1:12:02 --> 1:12:02
Yeah.
1235
1:12:02 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction], okay.
1236
1:12:04 --> 1:12:05
I'm gonna have to look that up.
1237
1:12:05 --> 1:12:11
I've never heard about that, about these various independent banks that you spoke about in Germany.
1238
1:12:12 --> 1:12:14
It's pretty much the same as it is in the US.
1239
1:12:15 --> 1:12:22
They're merging and so we don't have that many independent banks in Germany.
1240
1:12:22 --> 1:12:27
They either belong to Deutsche Bank, Sparkasse or Commerzbank.
1241
1:12:27 --> 1:12:29
I mean, it's all these big banks.
1242
1:12:31 --> 1:12:34
And then he spoke about or wanted to know about Nord Stream.
1243
1:12:35 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ing what happened there.
1244
1:12:40 --> 1:12:46
So, I mean, critical infrastructure of Germany was sabotaged.
1245
1:12:47 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] of war, right?
1246
1:12:53 --> 1:12:57
So they blew up these pipelines and you know what the German government did?
1247
1:12:59 --> 1:13:01
Nothing, nada, zip.
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1:13:02 --> 1:13:04
They were kind of like, oh, it's gone now.
1249
1:13:04 --> 1:13:06
You know, why cry over spilled milk?
1250
1:13:07 --> 1:13:09
That's the attitude they took to it.
1251
1:13:09 --> 1:13:14
So they weren't the least bit interested in finding out
1252
1:13:14 --> 1:13:15
who did that.
1253
1:13:16 --> 1:13:21
Of course, we were told it must have been Putin, must have been the Russians, blah, blah, blah.
1254
1:13:21 --> 1:13:28
The thing is this, had there been a shred of evidence that it actually had been the Russians,
1255
1:13:28 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction] the end of that.
1256
1:13:30 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ory all day long, 24-7.
1257
1:13:35 --> 1:13:39
We found this evidence, we found that, but they didn't have that evidence.
1258
1:13:40 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction] claimed it was Putin.
1259
1:13:42 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction] been Putin, right?
1260
1:13:46 --> 1:13:48
But it doesn't make any sense.
1261
1:13:49 --> 1:13:52
So, but like I said, the German government, they were like, well, it's gone now.
1262
1:13:52 --> 1:13:54
You know, why cry over spilled milk?
1263
1:13:54 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction], you know, went and moved on to the order of business.
1264
1:13:59 --> 1:14:02
No one cared who had done that.
1265
1:14:02 --> 1:14:05
And the only thing I know, I don't know who it was.
1266
1:14:06 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] who it wasn't.
1267
1:14:08 --> 1:14:09
It wasn't Putin.
1268
1:14:10 --> 1:14:11
It wasn't Putin.
1269
1:14:12 --> 1:14:13
It definitely was not him.
1270
1:14:13 --> 1:14:16
Like I said, had there been a shred of evidence that it was him,
1271
1:14:16 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] the end of that one.
1272
1:14:18 --> 1:14:23
But I mean, yeah, you get your, you know, critical infrastructure sabotaged
1273
1:14:23 --> 1:14:26
and the German government doesn't even care.
1274
1:14:26 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] why they didn't care to find out who it was
1275
1:14:33 --> 1:14:35
is they don't need to find out anymore.
1276
1:14:35 --> 1:14:35
They already know.
1277
1:14:37 --> 1:14:38
They already know who did it.
1278
1:14:38 --> 1:14:42
But they don't want to say that's why they just went over that.
1279
1:14:42 --> 1:14:44
Well, it's gone now.
1280
1:14:44 --> 1:14:44
Right.
1281
1:14:45 --> 1:14:46
Yeah.
1282
1:14:47 --> 1:14:53
So I think it was Hans Benjamin who suggested or at least agreed with the suggestion
1283
1:14:54 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]urbances in France, I seem to remember.
1284
1:15:00 --> 1:15:07
And so it was a US war on NATO, which would fit with the strategy of coming out of NATO,
1285
1:15:07 --> 1:15:07
of course, wouldn't it?
1286
1:15:08 --> 1:15:09
Yeah.
1287
1:15:10 --> 1:15:12
Well, no, that doesn't make any sense.
1288
1:15:13 --> 1:15:18
Because at the time when it happened, there was no war, US war on NATO.
1289
1:15:19 --> 1:15:20
Biden was in office.
1290
1:15:21 --> 1:15:21
Right.
1291
1:15:22 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction], he would not fight NATO.
1292
1:15:26 --> 1:15:26
You know what I'm saying?
1293
1:15:27 --> 1:15:28
That doesn't make any sense.
1294
1:15:30 --> 1:15:31
So in terms of-
1295
1:15:31 --> 1:15:33
No, no, no, I remember that.
1296
1:15:33 --> 1:15:39
So it was a kind of coercion to increase the membership of NATO.
1297
1:15:40 --> 1:15:42
But I can't quite remember.
1298
1:15:44 --> 1:15:45
But it was double edged.
1299
1:15:45 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ually it was-
1300
1:15:48 --> 1:15:50
I can't quite remember.
1301
1:15:50 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction], the point is that Truss, Liz Truss in the UK, she was prime minister for three weeks.
1302
1:15:58 --> 1:15:58
Incredibly.
1303
1:15:58 --> 1:15:59
I know.
1304
1:15:59 --> 1:16:05
She sent a WhatsApp message or she said, we've done it on the day that-
1305
1:16:06 --> 1:16:06
Yeah.
1306
1:16:06 --> 1:16:08
So we, who's we?
1307
1:16:09 --> 1:16:09
Yeah, I know.
1308
1:16:10 --> 1:16:10
I know.
1309
1:16:12 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction], they said it was Russia.
1310
1:16:14 --> 1:16:20
And then later they said it was a model crew from Ukraine.
1311
1:16:20 --> 1:16:22
But nobody believed that latter thing.
1312
1:16:23 --> 1:16:23
But yeah.
1313
1:16:25 --> 1:16:27
So what I think, Christine, is that-
1314
1:16:27 --> 1:16:30
The only thing that's for sure, we know who didn't do it.
1315
1:16:30 --> 1:16:32
That's the only thing we do know.
1316
1:16:33 --> 1:16:39
So what I think is clear about that, there was a massive incident at the very least,
1317
1:16:39 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]osion.
1318
1:16:43 --> 1:16:46
And that happened in the center of Europe and everybody kept quiet.
1319
1:16:46 --> 1:16:47
And that's treason.
1320
1:16:47 --> 1:16:50
It was treason what happened in Germany.
1321
1:16:50 --> 1:16:55
It was treason what happened in the UK because again, nobody in the UK wanted to know.
1322
1:16:55 --> 1:16:55
Sweden.
1323
1:16:56 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ed the Chernobyl disaster,
1324
1:16:59 --> 1:17:05
maybe because they were downwind, but they've got very good detectors in Sweden.
1325
1:17:05 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] known that it was a thermonuclear explosion.
1326
1:17:09 --> 1:17:10
They said nothing.
1327
1:17:10 --> 1:17:19
And this was all going on on all these countries' borders, you know, in the middle of the sea.
1328
1:17:20 --> 1:17:23
And everybody kept quiet, including Russia,
1329
1:17:23 --> 1:17:29
who Hans Benjamin said approved in [privacy contact redaction]s, was the target Kaliningrad,
1330
1:17:29 --> 1:17:30
White Russia, I think.
1331
1:17:31 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]s, I'm not absolutely sure of all the details, but that's a broad picture.
1332
1:17:37 --> 1:17:40
But there's certainly a lot to investigate.
1333
1:17:40 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]igations, but guess what?
1334
1:17:42 --> 1:17:49
In the UK, even though Britain, and it was on, you could Google it at the time,
1335
1:17:49 --> 1:17:55
that Britain only got 2% of its energy supply from Russia.
1336
1:17:56 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]osion was the driving force for the huge energy prices in the UK.
1337
1:18:06 --> 1:18:09
Yeah, yeah, the same in Germany, right?
1338
1:18:09 --> 1:18:11
And the thing is this, though.
1339
1:18:12 --> 1:18:17
So the German government told the German people,
1340
1:18:17 --> 1:18:21
well, you know, Putin is not delivering gas anymore, which is not true.
1341
1:18:22 --> 1:18:27
The truth is that after Putin had invaded Ukraine,
1342
1:18:27 --> 1:18:33
the German government, they were so principled, right, to punish Putin,
1343
1:18:33 --> 1:18:36
they told him point blank, we won't take your gas anymore.
1344
1:18:37 --> 1:18:39
We're not going to take your gas anymore.
1345
1:18:39 --> 1:18:43
Well, problem was, we were bound by contract.
1346
1:18:43 --> 1:18:50
So while we didn't take the gas from Russia anymore, we still had to pay for it, right?
1347
1:18:50 --> 1:18:55
So we are now paying the gas that we, since we're so principled, refused to take.
1348
1:18:56 --> 1:18:57
What does Putin do?
1349
1:18:57 --> 1:19:01
He probably hasn't recovered from laughing his butt off from that.
1350
1:19:01 --> 1:19:04
He took the gas that we already paid for, but not take.
1351
1:19:04 --> 1:19:07
He took the gas and then sold it to India,
1352
1:19:07 --> 1:19:16
which we then bought the very same gas from India, paid it again, and even put some money on top of it.
1353
1:19:16 --> 1:19:18
So we can buy it from India.
1354
1:19:18 --> 1:19:21
So not only did we pay the gas twice, right?
1355
1:19:21 --> 1:19:25
Not only got Russian, we didn't get the gas only once,
1356
1:19:25 --> 1:19:29
but Putin got paid twice for the very same gas.
1357
1:19:29 --> 1:19:33
And now they're trying to explain to us that this is really hurting Putin.
1358
1:19:33 --> 1:19:34
Yeah, right.
1359
1:19:36 --> 1:19:36
Yeah, right.
1360
1:19:37 --> 1:19:41
So there's absolutely no interest in the truth and then they all wonder what's going wrong?
1361
1:19:42 --> 1:19:44
No, none whatsoever.
1362
1:19:44 --> 1:19:47
Same with Biden in America for four years.
1363
1:19:47 --> 1:19:49
Had to put up with that nonsense.
1364
1:19:49 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ad is the next one too.
1365
1:19:51 --> 1:19:55
He's from Norway and he knows about Poland.
1366
1:19:56 --> 1:19:56
No.
1367
1:19:59 --> 1:20:00
Hello, Christine.
1368
1:20:00 --> 1:20:02
Yes, I'm Norwegian.
1369
1:20:02 --> 1:20:04
I lived many years in Poland.
1370
1:20:04 --> 1:20:11
I've also been almost 50 times to Ukraine and I speak German fluently, but that's not the story.
1371
1:20:11 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]ions.
1372
1:20:13 --> 1:20:19
Number one, I'm aware that most people are not aware that these COVID jabs,
1373
1:20:21 --> 1:20:30
they are of course very bad, but we have now solid evidence that they are much worse.
1374
1:20:31 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction] this 50-minute city with strong 5G
1375
1:20:37 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]rong correlation to excess mortality for those that is,
1376
1:20:43 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]us years of age and some comorbidities.
1377
1:20:48 --> 1:20:54
Second, there is now also a new research confirming that it's the same link to
1378
1:20:54 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]ion in fertility if you live in those places.
1379
1:20:58 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ly, to turbo cancer, linked to all of this is linked to the nanotechnology,
1380
1:21:05 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]uff in the jabs, which then correlates to radiation and the way
1381
1:21:11 --> 1:21:13
which makes it much worse.
1382
1:21:13 --> 1:21:19
And we are a team of researchers, including Dr. Oskar Stickeberger and some Norwegian,
1383
1:21:19 --> 1:21:20
some American.
1384
1:21:20 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ion is, if there is a way for you as an MEP to get this into the agenda,
1385
1:21:27 --> 1:21:30
to the parliament to get them to look at this.
1386
1:21:30 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ion number one.
1387
1:21:32 --> 1:21:36
Number two is, I'm sure you know about Ryan Othulmish.
1388
1:21:36 --> 1:21:44
He was a friend of mine and he was also doing strong research into 5G and coming that it would
1389
1:21:44 --> 1:21:48
be, it is even much worse than the vaccines and it combined with the vaccine.
1390
1:21:49 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ion is about Romania, that is it anything somebody can do like you,
1391
1:21:56 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ore democracy, they are now robbed from it.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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1:22:05 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ly about the COVID jabs, so you're saying that the effects,
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1:22:12 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]s of COVID jabs are much worse if you're living close to 5G towers
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or where 5G is prevalent?
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1:22:22 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] a lot of nanoparticulate in your body if you took
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two or three, especially three or more jabs.
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And these nanoparticulate will be radiated and act as an antenna in the body, in the organs,
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in the ovary, in the brain causing massive damage.
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1:22:41 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ed to excess mortality, to fertility and cancer.
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Okay.
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1:22:48 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]ed in information on that because that I will definitely look into.
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And since I'm on the committee of public health now, I might find a way, well, they don't even,
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they don't really allow you here in the EU parliament to kind of like, you know,
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set a point of point to the agenda, but I might be able to find a way to get that discussed,
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but I will definitely look into that.
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So if you can give me, get me more information on that, that would be greatly appreciated.
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1:23:22 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ess in the chat right now.
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1:23:27 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] write this down, COVID jabs 5G.
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Okay. Then the other thing was about Romania.
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Yeah, that's a whole other story.
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I mean, what they're doing there is, you know, it's got all the hallmarks of erecting
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an authoritarian regime, if not to say a totalitarian regime.
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So Ceausescu, he won the first round surprisingly.
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1:23:56 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction], you know, kind of like they were really annoyed with that and panicking,
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actually. And then they decided to cancel, and null that election pretty much.
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And it was because someone had petitioned the court to have a recounting of the votes of the
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1:24:22 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] round. And that kind of like triggered that whole process, right? And they ended up
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in nulling it. Then the next thing happened. So they weren't quite sure, do we just, you know,
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proceed or whatever. So they called for new elections, scheduled new elections.
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1:24:40 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] to file the paperwork to declare his candidacy as president,
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1:24:49 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ed, he was detained for questioning.
1424
1:24:53 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ioned him like five hours. And this is exactly the type of lawfare
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we've also seen that they launched against Trump. And so, yeah, that's really quite interesting what
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is happening there. I hope that they will not get away with it. And what I've heard from Romania
1427
1:25:18 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] weekend, there were like massive protests in support of Ceausescu. So we'll just
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have to see. I think he was able to file his paperwork after all. So he will be running. And
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I mean, the predictions for the second round, he was gonna slam dunk this at 73%, right? So I hope
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he'll, I'm pretty sure he's gonna win the election. He might only need one round this time around,
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right? So we'll have to see. But I totally agree. That is actually, yeah, once again,
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1:26:01 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]s fighting back, right? And I always tell the people, I mean,
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1:26:07 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] a lot. They will not just roll over and play dead. They will not just stand by
1434
1:26:16 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]ishments in their mind just go to waste, right? With stupid elections.
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They will not allow that. That's it. So they launched any kind of weapon they have at you,
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well, actually weaponizing of all kinds of things. Like we need to fight hate speech. We need to fight
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disinformation. Now it's malinformation, what they want to fight. And the differences is
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misinformation that is, is information, false information, and you spread it unintentionally.
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You don't know better, right? This information is the deliberate spreading of objectively false
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1:27:03 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]ing is with malinformation, malinformation is factually true information,
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but it is harmful. And that's why you're not allowed to spread it. So an example for malinformation
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would be if I were to say there is only two sexes, men and women. It is a factually true statement,
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but it's harmful. Question is, who is it harmful to exactly? Well, it's harmful to their narrative.
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That's what they mean with harmful. So they are launching all kinds of that stuff now.
1445
1:27:45 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] serving one purpose to shut you down, to silence you, and to just accept,
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whatever good they're bestowing on you. Yeah, that's going on. And like I said,
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it's happening in every single Western democracy to a more or lesser degree. This varies. And there is
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different agendas there. They seem to be pushing in different countries. So in Germany, they're
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1:28:16 --> 1:28:23
pushing this whole mass, illegal mass invasion kind of thing. What they seem to be doing,
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especially in Ireland and in the Netherlands, and even in Canada, is the disowning of farmers
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1:28:31 --> 1:28:37
seething their lands, culling their cattle, because we need to save the planet, of course,
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too. And the cows fart and burp too much, right? They've been doing that for thousands of years.
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Now it's killing the planet, right? So it's really they're robbing us of everything,
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whether it's our food, whether it's our homes, our homeland, our culture, identity, even our sexual
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identity. They're robbing us of all of that. And yeah, their ultimate goal, and I'm convinced of
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that at this point, is they want to transform our liberal and free societies into this collective
1457
1:29:18 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction] part of a mindless, malleable mass that they can shift around any which way
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they need us to be shifted around. A bit like China then. So yeah, exactly.
1459
1:29:35 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]ly. Yes, China. This is our future. Yeah. One of the things that mystifies me, Christine,
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it's just amazing to me, just like the Ukraine war doesn't make sense. So China, there are lots
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1:29:48 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction] who are very exercised by defending China. They don't want China. What is
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that about? I just don't understand. I don't think all these people are bored. I think it's a bit like
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Ukraine war thing. Everybody has an opinion. Oh yeah, but all the people who know about China,
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they all defend China. Why is that? What are they afraid of?
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Beyond me. It's mind boggling. I do not have an explanation for that. I don't know.
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So when you're talking about people defending China, what people are you talking about?
1467
1:30:21 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]e? Especially people who know China from having lived there, for example. But of course,
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you could argue that they get their incomes from China or have got income from China.
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But having said that, I do know that Chris Patton, who was in Hong Kong, the last governor of Hong
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Kong, was a governor, a governor, whatever it was anyway. He was the top of Hong Kong before 1997
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when they handed it over to China. And he was writing a book about his time in China and
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1:30:58 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]e of weeks, maybe. Yeah, something like that. Just before
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publication. And the book was pulled by one of the major publishers in the UK whose name is
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I can't remember now. But anyway, and the editor who had been assisting Chris Patton on this very
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important book resigned because they pulled the book. And but it turned out later that the reason
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they pulled it was because it was too critical. Chris Patton's book was too critical of China.
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But it was I'm not a big fan of Chris Patton. He later became the the the chancellor, I think,
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1:31:44 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] University. But he was tipped to be the next prime minister of the UK. He was
1479
1:31:53 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction], after this book, he didn't do anything in the UK.
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We'd never hear anything about him now. Very interesting. So China, you're not allowed to
1481
1:32:06 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction] time I understood that that was the narrative, you know, amongst these
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1:32:12 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]e in the US, as you know, who are China sycophants. And in I mean,
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you know, Keir Starmer is a good example. And Lord Mandelson, who's the American ambassador, sorry,
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the British ambassador to America, also connected with China, apparently. And did you get an answer
1485
1:32:36 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ions? Yeah, the second third question was about if she has any chance to do anything
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in the case of Reiner Schulmisch, who is still in prison with the I guess. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No,
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I can't do anything about that, because I cannot really get involved with, you know, pending
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trials or charges like that. The only thing you know, I can't do, of course, if there's protests,
1489
1:33:05 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]s. Right. But other than that, there is nothing really I can do,
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because I'm sitting in the European Parliament. I can make a point of order here. But that wouldn't
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do any good, other than, you know, getting the news out. But it's not really doing anything for
1492
1:33:25 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]ing that Reiner Fulmich, he was, I first knew of him
1493
1:33:35 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]ually. So he won two massive cases, one against Volkswagen, and the other
1494
1:33:41 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] Deutsche Bank. Yeah. So maybe that's the reason that he's having a special
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treatment in Germany. Possibly. Yeah. Revenge. Anyway, F. Nazar. I can't remember what F stands
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for, Nazar. Hi, Fred. Yes, you have said, yeah. Thank you so much. Go ahead. So the first question
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about Reiner, could you, as a member of the European Parliament, ask for a report,
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1:34:16 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]e, about the respect of human rights violated, like due process?
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Technically, yeah. Theoretically, I can't do that. I will have to speak to my colleagues who are in
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the appropriate, in the respective committees that deal with that. So I could ask her if we could
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work on that. Yeah, that might be something. Report on the violations of human rights.
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Yeah. You could go to your favourite organisation, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on torture.
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1:35:00 --> 1:35:08
Yeah. Especially because it's pretty clear that the due process was violated. So
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that would be a good point to follow. Yeah. Christine, I just had a thought. You might find
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that, Reiner Fulmick, you might, one body, European body, that might be interested in that is the
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Council of Europe. And the reason I think that they might be interested in this is because
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they were very exercised by the 2009 pandemic fraud, but they also had an almost,
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it was not publicised very well, you know, in the mainstream press. Julian Assange came from Australia
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1:35:54 --> 1:36:00
to the Council of Europe, and he was fated at the Council of Europe. So I think there are people
1510
1:36:00 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]and what's going on. So I've seen this, Julian Assange, they understood,
1511
1:36:07 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ood what was going on about the swine flu pandemic, and thereby
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1:36:14 --> 1:36:22
the COVID, of course, both were frauds. And so, but they don't get much publicity. Maybe that's why
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they like the publicity, maybe, but they didn't get much even for Julian Assange. And that was a
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big, that's the only time he's appeared in public, to my knowledge. Okay. So,
1515
1:36:37 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ions.
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1:36:38 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ed in Rhino-Fulmic. And the other one is, you know, someone like you writing
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1:36:47 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ed Nations, but the other thing is maybe you don't want to draw too much attention.
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United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture and ask him to investigate what's happening to
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Rhino-Fulmic. Yeah.
1520
1:37:01 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ions or three.
1521
1:37:04 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ion is, you know, you are aware that people who have been vaccinated with
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all COVID vaccine brands, some are meeting a Bluetooth signal. And this signal was detected
1523
1:37:23 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]oid module to a website which belongs to the US Department of Defense.
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Would you be able to get involved in any university or accredited institution to study this?
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I wouldn't be able to make them do it. I could, you know, write and can suggest it,
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but that seems to be, that should be done by people who are actually, you know, in touch with
1527
1:38:00 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]y. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I could write to universities.
1528
1:38:10 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]udy here and there? The thing is they wouldn't get funding for it, right? Because
1529
1:38:16 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] the narrative once again. So, but yeah, I could reach out to,
1530
1:38:22 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]e. So say that again, there was basically the COVID Japs
1531
1:38:30 --> 1:38:33
and how they rendered like a Bluetooth signal, right?
1532
1:38:33 --> 1:38:40
Yes. It seems like they're injected like a nano or micro router, which emits this Bluetooth
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1:38:40 --> 1:38:47
signal, which is easy to detect. You could download any application on Android and like a BLE,
1534
1:38:47 --> 1:38:54
Bluetooth Low Energy Tracker or sniffer, and you can detect it and you could follow the people
1535
1:38:54 --> 1:39:03
around. It's, there's a documentary about this called Bluetooth. It's called what Bluetooth or
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1:39:03 --> 1:39:13
Bluetooth? Bluetooth. It's a playing on the words. You can find it in Bit.chord, Rumble or DCI.
1537
1:39:13 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction], Rumble or DCI anywhere. It's made in Mexico.
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And, but it's translated and they're making the part two, which is very interesting because
1539
1:39:27 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction] this mouse lab rat, which doesn't emit anything. Then they inject them
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with Pfizer, I think. And then it starts emitting Bluetooth.
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1:39:38 --> 1:39:44
And what's even more interesting is that the Android module picks this signal up and resends
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1:39:44 --> 1:39:51
the data to this website, which is really amazing. I mean, they're using the data. It's proved that
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they're using the data. Okay. And then there's another question. It's about money. We're very
1544
1:40:00 --> 1:40:08
worried about the scheme, about central bank digital currencies. And then there's a question
1545
1:40:08 --> 1:40:20
and we've seen how some legislators in the U S are emitting. They have gathered gold in the vault
1546
1:40:20 --> 1:40:28
and they're meeting these projects where they would have money. It's not money. Actually,
1547
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it's a gold certificate, but it works like money. And the Bundestag could do that also.
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So, or the European parliament also. So if you're interested, we could get a detailed project to work on.
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1:40:48 --> 1:40:57
Yeah. Yeah. Send it to me. Oh, I wanted to put in my email address. Okay. Yeah.
1550
1:40:57 --> 1:41:11
So it's like, it's, um, yeah, I could hear someone typing then. It sounded like Trump with his,
1551
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with his pen, you know, you can hear scratching across. I actually wanted to put my email to all
1552
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of, all of you guys in the chat, but I directly messaged, messaged Fred now. So let's see.
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It's okay. Well, okay. All right. Um, is that okay, Fred? Any, anything we finished?
1554
1:41:34 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ion is, um, I've been studying a free majoring for like, I don't know, over five,
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six years. I wrote, wrote three books about them. And it's really interesting how these,
1556
1:41:47 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ructured. Um, and there was, for example, in,
1557
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in the UK, there was this project that it would force all members of secret societies, which have
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an oath of obedience, uh, to disclose their membership if they, they belong to,
1559
1:42:08 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction], um, the public, uh, for example, um, an elective position in,
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in parliament or, or, or in a listed corporation. Of course, this project didn't, wasn't passed,
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but, um, it's really, it would be really interesting at least to discuss it as a project
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because you can't have a democracy where, uh, in all parties are infiltrated by the same mega party,
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you know, it's like, it's a uniparty. Um, so I don't know if you're interested. I also have some
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information on that. Okay. Great. Thank you very much. Yeah. I put in my, my email address. So yeah,
1565
1:42:55 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] send it to me. I'll take a look. Okay. Yeah. Um, so thank you, Fred. Uh, where are you, Fred?
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Which country are you in? Uh, I'm in Argentina, but I'm also Italian. Uh, yes. Okay.
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Okay. Yeah. Um, so Jessica Richards is next. Um, Christine. I'm sorry.
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1:43:20 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]s. Where are you, Jessica? I'm in the UK now. I just got back from Ireland. Um,
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hi, Christine. Thanks for giving us your time again. It's greatly appreciated. Um, I've just
1570
1:43:34 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]ion really, um, from your point of view being within the EU, there's lots of stuff
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coming up and opinions coming up, um, about the posturing of the European leaders and the
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support for, um, Ukraine, et cetera. And of course, um, our prime minister is involved in that.
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Do you feel or, or, or do you think from what you've seen there, that this is a real attempt to
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create, as they've been wanting to do for a long time, in my understanding, uh, European military
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and to involve the UK in that and how viable is that? Yeah. Um, yeah, of course. So there have
1576
1:44:19 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ans for that. There've been talks about that. We need to have, you know, a common, uh,
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military, uh, foreign policy, military strategy, but it was up until now, it was just really talk,
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really, you know, for lack of money, you know, to realizing that, of course, um, because they're
1579
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spending money in all kinds of garbage. Um, yeah, but now it's like they mean business.
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And of course, this is just the welcome, uh, pretext under which they now could possibly,
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um, be successful in convincing the majority of the peoples in the European member states, um,
1582
1:45:01 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ually, you know, applaud to installing a European army. But this is, this would be, um,
1583
1:45:09 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ake, uh, in the sense of that, um, then peoples, they would, would no longer be
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able to fight back, uh, in terms of, so let's say, let's say the Romanian people are now, you know,
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1:45:25 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ing, uh, that they try to keep Ceausescu out of office.
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If there was, um, a European army, of course, they would not deploy the Romanians to clean up
1587
1:45:38 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]s. They would send, let's say the French or the Italians
1588
1:45:46 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction] no, no qualms about, you know, shooting down Romanian people.
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So this is the real danger, um, that I see, uh, if they do get, uh, whatever they want to call a
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European army or whatever, but, um, yes, they will absolutely try to do that. Um, the only
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1:46:05 --> 1:46:12
thing that is saving us right now is there is no money to do that, right? Like they spend it on
1592
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everyone else. Um, with the U S still on board, um, they would definitely do that. Yes, absolutely.
1593
1:46:20 --> 1:46:27
Right. That's helpful. Thank you. What, what would be the viability as well of involving the UK in
1594
1:46:27 --> 1:46:35
that as we're technically not part of the European union anymore, but in everything?
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That, that wouldn't change anything. I mean, see, they're trying to make us believe that the only
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1:46:42 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] meaningful discussions and can have trade and can have, you know, contracts
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is if you are a member in the EU, right? Which is BS. I mean, we kind of, the countries existed
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before there was even in the U right. There was trade, we had agreements, we had contracts,
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and yeah, it's a little more difficult, but that's, that's the other benefit that the EU actually
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brings, uh, especially for like big corporations, globally operating corporations, right?
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1:47:16 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] to negotiate with 27 different, 27 different countries.
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1:47:23 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] to do is, you know, convince Ursula von der Leyen and boom, you have 27
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countries, right? So this is just another step to globalizing the world and to bring it all together
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under, you know, whatever globalitarian kind of a global order. That's what they're, what they're
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doing. Yeah. So I guess I probably already know the answer to this, but I'm going to ask it anyway.
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How aware are the other MEPs of the dangers of such a situation taking place?
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Yeah, the majority are not aware at all. So I've tried to explain that so many times.
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1:48:12 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction] like three types of people in the, in the parliaments, not only you parliament
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and other parliaments as well. I think this holds pretty much true for every parliament. So you have
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1:48:25 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]e that are fully aware and are actively fighting it, right? But we're in a majority.
1611
1:48:34 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]e. They are fully aware of what they're doing.
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But they, since they belong, finally belong to the club, they don't want to jeopardize that.
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So they go along, even though they know what they're doing is not, is not correct. Right.
1614
1:48:55 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]e. They're just so utterly stupid. They're so
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incredibly dumb. They don't get it. They really don't. They really believe all of this BS.
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You know, if you censored free speech on social media, you would save democracy.
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Yes, absolutely. And a man, like I said, you know, wanting to bring about peace, of course,
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1:49:26 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] Of course he is, you know, that's pretty much, you know, what the three groups are.
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So someone early and you'll say from dying from old age diseases.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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1:49:41 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]e there actually are aware and?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. The minority. Yeah. These people are in the minority. If I said
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majority, that's totally wrong. No, no, no, the minority, but this minority is growing.
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So it's now more in the EU Parliament. We are now more ever since the last election in June of last
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year, but we still don't have a majority. Theoretically, we actually, I would say the
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right conservative side, we technically have a majority in house, but the Christian Democrats,
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the Europeans, what they call People's Party, the EPP, the former Conservative Party,
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1:50:29 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]n't quite made up their mind yet. And since they now won the elections in Germany,
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they're probably convinced they're doing the right thing, right? But they still vote with the social
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Democrats and with the Greens and the liberals and all of that. Even though the people want them
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to change their course, but they won't. They simply won't. Right. So, and you know,
1632
1:50:55 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]y won't. Right. So, and like I said, they won the German elections. So they're,
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you know, thinking, hey, we must have done everything correct. They will not change.
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So they're not going to change no matter what. Right. And did the people actually vote for that?
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Or is it? Did the people actually vote for that? Or is it questionable, as you know,
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1:51:23 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ions are? I would say they did come in first. They did win the elections
1637
1:51:32 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] But even, I mean, we're talking now that they had, well, 28%.
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Right. I remember times where they had like 48, 51, 52%. Right. When they were the actual
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Conservative Party of my country. Right. But now it's like they are celebrating themselves
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if they came in at 28%. So. Yeah, I understand that. Is that some of that a result of fewer
1641
1:51:58 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]e bothering to vote? Well, no, actually, in the last German election, the participation
1642
1:52:04 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]ually quite high. It was like 87%. That is high. And the highest turnout ever.
1643
1:52:13 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]e are and I think it happened with COVID. People are more interested in politics now.
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Because they realized or a lot of them realized anyway, that, you know, politics is not just,
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you know, some, some kind of a theoretical nonsense that only the elites bother with.
1646
1:52:33 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]s your daily life. Yeah, you were locked in your home. You had to put on a mask.
1647
1:52:40 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction] mandated you to take an mRNA injection. They threatened you, you would lose your job if
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you didn't comply. So they realized, wait a minute, it is actually affecting me directly.
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Right. Yeah. And that's true. Yeah. Nature people normally don't react until it knocks on their
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front door. Otherwise, they just ignore things. Yeah. Things have to get worse before they get
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better. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to jump in here. I would really like lock off at like, well, it's
1652
1:53:15 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction] an early morning. So I would take one more question.
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1:53:23 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]ion from Gary Hawkins, Christine? Thank you, Jessica.
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1:53:30 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]and that in Germany, it is just paper ballots, correct? Yes.
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And so... And voter ID and one day voting. Okay. So then there could have been still cheating in the
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counting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you have a sense that that may be? Yes. Yes. That did happen here and
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there. What we're doing now is we're telling people, look, you have the right to witness when
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they're counting the ballots, right, in the various precincts. And I think that's a good
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and we've actually, you know, this camp, we've been doing that campaign whenever there is elections.
1660
1:54:12 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]e in Germany, they didn't even know that they were allowed to, you know, be present
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when they're counting the ballots. So but there is still fraud going on. You know, here and there,
1662
1:54:24 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]e are caught cheating. So but generally speaking, is there is fraud? Yes. But they,
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they really can't do it on a massive scale that it would have.
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I think you're cutting out there, unfortunately. She's frozen. If you can hear me. I remember...
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Gary, you're very faint. Your microphone is very low or whatever. I remember when I first saw you
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Wow, there's a... Wait a minute, Gary. She's not with us because she's frozen. OK. She might not be
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hearing me. Yeah. See, she's frozen. Well, maybe the Zoom heard her, the artificial intelligence.
1668
1:55:18 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] They didn't like to talk about possible... Hello, Christine.
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1:55:27 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction]ions behind the scenes. Well, I'll just make... Your microphone is very low.
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Yeah, I don't know why that would be. Well, normally your voice is booming around, but now it's...
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What do they call that? I can't remember the thing down the bottom on the left. So Christine,
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are you there? We'll let her go, shall we? Yeah. Can I just make a comment then? That's better.
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Your microphone is better than now or the sound. So I did increase the input level. I remember when
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1:56:05 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction], I thought, wow, that's a human being. And I was worried about her safety.
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And I was going to ask her what happens after she stands up and makes one of those
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speeches. What about Trudeau, you mean, when she said, you are not welcome? Very good, Christine.
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1:56:28 --> 1:56:32
So Gary wants to know whether you're worried about your safety. He's worried about your safety and he
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lives in America. Not really. So I don't... When I leave the house, I don't look over... I'm aware of
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1:56:45 --> 1:56:53
my surroundings, obviously, but I'm not really concerned that people might jump me or whatever.
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1:56:54 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] party congresses and there's tens of thousands of
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1:57:02 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] on T-Fah around, then I'm concerned for my safety. Yes. And
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in 2015, they threw a stone at my head. It was this big. Yeah. It was split open my scalp.
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Stuff like that happens, but generally, I'm not worried. No.
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1:57:33 --> 1:57:39
So you know Naomi Seid, of course? Yes. Well, I don't know her. I know of her.
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1:57:39 --> 1:57:46
Oh, well, doesn't she live near you? I guess not. Yeah, but she just popped up like a few months ago
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as far as I... Right? So I don't know where she came from. I have no clue. I just know of her.
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Remember what I read of her on X? She's been staying away from home, worried about her safety.
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1:57:58 --> 1:58:06
But then who's the leader of AFD, an alternative for Deutschland? Yeah, Alice Weidel. And then,
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you obviously communicate with her a lot. Yeah. Well, not a lot. She's been campaigning,
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1:58:13 --> 1:58:21
been busy. So, yeah. So I was in Germany in 2008 or something, and it was the election season.
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And they were on TV. I couldn't understand what they were saying, but I was fascinated watching
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because all these candidates were sitting in a long form type program discussing things.
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1:58:33 --> 1:58:37
There are differences, very civil in a very civilized way. And I thought,
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1:58:37 --> 1:58:44
oh, I wish we did that in the United States. Yeah. Well, it's not that civil anymore.
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Whenever AFD is there, of course, they get attacked. So it's not that civil anymore, actually.
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So I take it that the media in Germany is as controlled as it is in the United States.
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1:59:00 --> 1:59:07
Yes. That accounts for why AFD didn't win, because people are brainwashed, right? Exactly.
1698
1:59:08 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]ly. You don't seem like the typical brainwashed. That's why I keep iterating that point.
1699
1:59:15 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]ern democracies. Everything that you don't think
1700
1:59:22 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]ates, we are facing the exact same thing, just as it is in Italy,
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1:59:29 --> 1:59:35
in France, everywhere. It's the same thing everywhere. How do you explain yourself? How
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is it you're not brainwashed? Have you avoided TV over time? Well, I turned off my TV a long time
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ago. That's true. It's like, yeah, I've always been a critical mind. I mean, even as a kid.
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Oh, trust me, I was a handful. I mean, my teachers and parents, they were trying to do their best to
1705
2:00:01 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ine me, but I would always come back with another question and question this, challenge that.
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So I've always kind of been like that. But of course, I was also caught up in that whole,
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I mean, the world to me was pretty much okay. I was busy all day long as they stay at home mom
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with my three kids. So and they were a handful too, by the way. So but it was like, once I had that
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waking up moment in 2007, it was like, yeah. And like I said, once you start going down the rabbit hole,
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there is like you can't stop, right? And once you've seen it, you cannot not see it. So but I've
1711
2:00:45 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]s been kind of critical. Yeah. Your time here today, I think I speak for everybody here
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when to say we love you and wow, do I have respect for your bravery? Well, thank you. Thank you.
1713
2:01:04 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]ine, you forgot to mention that you're from East Germany, aren't you originally?
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2:01:08 --> 2:01:15
No, no, no, I'm not. My parents are from East Germany. I was born in Western Germany. But
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so my parents were born in the 20s. They had me and my brother rather late in life.
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So my dad fought in World War Two. I mean, that drafted him when he was 16. So when he came home,
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he realized it wasn't communism, right? So he spoke out and, you know, went to these party
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2:01:40 --> 2:01:48
meetings on a rather small kind of town level, right? But he would, you know, ask questions,
1719
2:01:48 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]ions. And then he was arrested in 1950. So he was released as a POW or as being a
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2:01:56 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]ed then in 50 by the Russians. And he was sentenced to 25
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2:02:06 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction] labor as a political prisoner. They accused him of having for an anti Soviet espionage,
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which was totally ridiculous, of course. So yeah, since [privacy contact redaction] labor,
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he luckily only had to serve five years. He was released in 55. And he still wouldn't shut up.
1724
2:02:35 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction] him again in 59. But then he was warned. And he fled the country
1725
2:02:43 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction] him. So then my mom followed him in [privacy contact redaction]ers.
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And yeah, I was born in Western Germany. But I grew up in that household, you know,
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having had a dad who was, you know, political prisoner, and [privacy contact redaction] labor, that is
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quite a sentence, right. And it was rather ridiculous what he had done, actually. I mean,
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what they accused him of pretty much. So yeah, but that's pretty much how I grew up. So maybe
1730
2:03:17 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]ains why. So there's your answer, Gary. Yeah. Very good. So Christine, thank you so much
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for coming on. And I think it's really important for people to hear you not least because you are
1732
2:03:31 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]e hope, just like Trump does. And I was going to ask you, but we
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haven't got time now. Or maybe we have a minute maybe for you. So did you think, were you a bit
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surprised on inauguration day when Trump got into power and listening to his inauguration speech?
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It was a bit of a turnaround, wasn't it? And then it was immediately followed by all those executive
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orders. And I felt massive, for my part, personal part, I felt massive hope. Just and it was like,
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you know, the last four years just evaporated and meant absolutely no, well, apart from it was gas
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lighting for me and for others. But I was a bit, I was stunned about the difference of the feeling
1739
2:04:23 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction] a matter of days. And I thought, wow, things can change that,
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2:04:29 --> 2:04:35
they can change that quickly. I know. But I mean, that's what Donald Trump had said, you know,
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from day one, there is going to be a new sheriff in town. And he certainly lived up to that promise.
1742
2:04:44 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]ually inaugurated, the very first emotion that I had, I felt utterly relieved that
1743
2:04:54 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]ually saw him getting inaugurated. My biggest fear was they were trying to do whatever they could
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to prevent him from being inaugurated. Right. So I was relieved, you know, that was like, oh,
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please make, let's make it to the 20th of January. Right. And just see it done. So I was was first
1746
2:05:20 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction], I was relieved to see it happening. And how quickly it changed. I know I wasn't really
1747
2:05:29 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction], you know, had a ball seeing it because he was proving everyone a liar left and
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2:05:36 --> 2:05:44
right. Right. And it's not a matter of not being able to. It's a matter of they don't want to bring
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about that change. That is their problem. They don't want to. But if you want to, you can. And he
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proved that. Yeah. Yeah. So I agree with you. So it made the European leaders look immediately,
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totally irrelevant. And that was great. And he made them look like idiots. Exactly. And it is
1752
2:06:04 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction]ually it could have been planned by Trump and Vance that
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they knew what Zelensky would do. They maybe had psychology advisors who'd been studying his
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speeches. You know, they knew what he would do. They knew he would appeal to the American public
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from the Oval Office. Yeah. Over Trump's head. And they were ready for it. And Vance started the
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attack and Trump joined in. Yeah, exactly. But I think the big lesson for us, Christine, that we
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shouldn't despair. There were many times during the last four years when I was despairing since
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2020. And I thought, how on earth is this going to be? But things can change very quickly. Yes, they can.
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Never lose hope. Okay. He's a one off. But yeah, even so, it was really interesting to see how
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quickly things could change and how the feeling changed. And it wasn't just in America. Right.
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2:07:09 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction], thank you so much, Christine. It's been a pleasure being with all of you again.
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Thank you so much and talk to you soon. Thank you. Thank you. So important. Thank you. Bye.
