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John I saw you John B I saw you give your speech in front of that group and I
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oh thanks I'm not sure which one you mean I've given so many yeah well you
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know it was a good one was it was it I was I wearing like Navy blue and white
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stripe rugby shirt possibly it was what was this a city council meeting or all
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going around now everybody's congratulating me and I'm like it was
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four months ago thank you though thank you John the one with Professor Norman
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Fenton that was brilliant and and Norman Fenton was asking you some great
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me a lot of detail that I don't generally get to say so he was he was
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the one who made that work really well he was great he was great and thank John
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B we'll talk about that a bit later John Lukacs can you just repeat the the for
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you've posted and posted again in the chat from Dr. Shiva just mention it yeah
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want anybody to think that I'm trying to get you a vote for this guy I don't I'm
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not gonna vote for him I think that's it's kind of a gimmick to get his
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message out there's no way he's gonna be president and I wouldn't want to
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he's very very bright and this whiteboard presentation he does is 14
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minutes long and everybody on this called they need you need to really
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familiarize yourself with what he maps out here because he explains enough
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opposition is and you can do it really flawlessly if you just study this it's a
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brilliant thank you thank you John all right let's get this show on the road
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you and your name I'm quite able to do it because one of my good mates is a
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Spartan from from Macedonia his name is Spiros Galatios so I've got used to
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cojilata so I'm getting I love it I'm getting getting used to this and
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so everybody let's get this show on the road welcome today's discussion a
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responses with a desire to pursue truth ethics justice freedom and health Stephen
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Cobess the moderator of this group I'm Australasias passion provocateur and my
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jacket is red because red is the color of passion I practiced law for 20 years
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before changing career [privacy contact redaction] 12 years I've helped
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from bad medical advice I point out that the third highest cause of death in
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America after heart problems and cancer is medical misadventure I'm also the CEO
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troublemakers and professors and we're from all around the world many of us
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thought the vaccines were okay now many of us proudly say yes we are passionate
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anti-vaxxers and with the news that came out this week at Mary Holland one of our
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that's been approved on the basis of testing 20 mice it shows you the fraud
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yourself in the chat and where you're from if you publish a newsletter or a
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the chat so we can follow you promote you and find you most of us understand
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we're in the middle of World War three and that there are various battle lines
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that the science is never settled the meeting runs for two and a half hours
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after which for those with the time Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting
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Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join we will listen to
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Ishwar and Kohila Tass we'll call Ish for those of you who and Ish in his intro and
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Ish your background we'll have lots of questions I'm sure you can answer most
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remember with zoom now if your hand goes down it's not me taking your hand down
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zoom has got a new bloody up the software update that your hand disappears
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appropriate moderating free speech is crucially important in our fight to
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preserve our human freedoms if you're offended by anything be offended we are
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on the other hand expands you and I point out Mark Dyer's Mark Dyer's
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around and say where tyranny is law Mark what's the last line where tyranny is
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law non-compliance is no it's a due its resistance becomes a duty where I'll
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expands you the great challenge is to love those who have different opinions
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to us however we're supposed to love our enemies and that is difficult and at
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ever increasing ability to identify who actually is out to cause us harm if you
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details into the chat the meeting is recorded and is uploaded onto the rumble
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channel if you're watching on recording welcome and now welcome to each Warren
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your wisdom and insights and again thank you Stephen Frost again for creating
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situation and I think I'm very grateful to to actually have kind of found myself
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in this kind of situation where it seems like kind of above ground we can't say
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what we feel like there's a lot of frustration in the air so it's very
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even asking to even here you know to not you know to be forced into anything but
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dialogue so yeah I think I'm very lucky to be here so great to have you great
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guys hi so you can share your screen it's over to you we will listen to you
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as long as you wish to speak and then when you say right up I'm ready for
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so I kind of came in not knowing not really kind of having a thing to talk
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about and then I was kind of asked to do this and I was like oh I don't know if I
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should speak about mushrooms I'm not sure if I should speak about my day I
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don't know if I should speak about your day I had no idea so I was like you know
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it to be like if I met you at a park or if we're in a pub and you guys join in
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and if there's things you don't like just kind of pipe up if there's things
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you each because what intrigues me the most in your background is your
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willingness to is your willingness to give away your medical career your
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conventional medical career and it is it is the considered view of many here
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certainly my considered view there are five groups who have enabled this fraud
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to be perpetrated and those five groups are the medical profession the legal
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profession the churches the leaders of big business and mainstream media if
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any one of those five groups had spoken out against this fraud of the globalists
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believe as that to be whether that's an infinite kind of energy whether that's
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Jesus with us whether that's kind of Allah whether that's quantum you know
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or the universe or even if you don't have anything I think that that had made
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me and it led me to it like that's there's no I think back in a go well like
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before I was even born and at this moment it led me or my understanding of
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where you want to take that so it's very easy to blame in the same sense it's
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kind of lawyers they didn't stand up for us if only they didn't do something okay
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yes yes I'm not saying that's not true but why why not actually kind of extend
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that you know why why what what the kind of postman or the kind of bin cleaners
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every single person and it's quite easy to can point your fingers and you know
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it's wrong but you you find something you go well maybe it's you know I was
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saved because of some reason but it's someone else's fault because they were
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less intelligent or it's luck but actually have you taken the steps
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wasn't very happy with the answers whether at that be religion whether
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that be science I was bored with that trait and that had led me to leave my
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religion or all kind of in a kind of so-called kind of kind of belief in this
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don't really care for it I wanted to I wanted the truth and I was happy if the
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truth was you know kind of this was it however when you when you question
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there's always more questioning because you're dealing with infinite you're
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I mean so you can go down any language so you can read so I've read Spinoza I've
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read Schopenhauer like I've I didn't work that I didn't read the works of
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I read what they said I read kind of kind of niche I've then read 1984 I've
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I wouldn't see as kind of holy so I left a religion but I was like but there was
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and it got me to into medicine because I like to help people and then eventually
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when you realize what's been going on or you're lucky enough to I had I didn't
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deal with so I took the sacrifice and I left but I was very lucky too and I
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do feel like this is not right but they do have to feel their family so you know
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would tell you no this is so confused now we're like no but this study tells me
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wrong kind at the wrong time if you brush past him then they will hurt it's
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depends it depends on the dose on you on the person on the natural substance so
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we've we've lost with a lot of us are lost in the maze of science now and I
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think the science is the deep conditioning you know this we've we're
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kind of Jesus knew more about the life than our scientists do you know so
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we've lost this understanding of it because of science we're lost in the
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maze of science or thought or our thinking so I was thinking about my
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description and I'll stop talking in a bit and I don't like having a
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description of my life and I don't really like talking about myself but I
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know sometimes it's useful to if it it's if it's valuable then kind of why not
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but I was right because it's not me I didn't do any of it I was I was very
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getting your your kind of vessel to appreciate the spirit if you know what I
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corrupted but our bodies with kind of toxins have been corrupted so there is
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inflammation and therefore it's very difficult to get to the state of
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that kind of transcends description but maybe some of you do but anyway I'll
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have a definition of health you mentioned health each do you have a
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definition of what it means for a man or woman to be healthy what is yes for
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you you know what's the what's the definition in my radio program I say
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health is the unique optimum balance for each one of us unique optimum balance
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of mental physical and spiritual elements that's how I go what's what what
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do you say is being healthy and then we'll go to Stephen first I was asked
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remember his name his name is Nishan and he was fit.com India and I would say I
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kind of it's very important to support those and can forget about numbers it's
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I should kind of follow this person don't get lost in that just see the
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message if this person seems good so this guy obviously we're kind of
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speaking so he's a good omen can listen he asked me this question I was like I
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don't know in the deep in the deep sense I see everything as one I see
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everything is good so health is no separate from anything else you know
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whatever you do is good health but I think to really understand it I put it
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to him that I felt health was like a good friend it's it's someone who doesn't
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lie to you but lets you be you so you can you can smoke and your health will
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be there like it's there for you but your health will lie to you it'll be
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like it's hurting me but I'm here for you and sometimes you might need a smoke
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so this is the the kind of balance that I tried to go over with health it's very
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marathons lift loads of weights healthy eat get all supplements have all the
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that's too that's our thinking that's that's too much thinking in a for in a
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for one which which in itself is not very healthy and number two it's kind of
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pain or kind of bloating then if you want to reduce it then you go closer to
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health because you vibrate more with this universal frequency now you can call
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that kind of balance of balance in the chakras or understanding or things
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happening to you or intuition there's different levels of health we can talk
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there's a spectrum like everything because there's a non-dualistic to
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thing very good very excellent thank you each all right Stephen over to you and
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know you don't like talking about yourself but sometimes that's the best
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be like before university what were your the greatest influences on you your
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parents your grandparents their background for example if you want to
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you don't have to but and anything else which might so I but just an observation
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on what you were talking about then the health thing I think so I hadn't really
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what's happened in the last three and a half years and I wonder this world that
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we're living in is far more crazy than I ever thought so now I've got to a stage
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where I don't trust anything coming from anyone even in this group until I
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so I agree with you that it's not it's not possible to define what we're looking
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for but we're all human beings and and I do feel sometimes that human beings
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sort out their problems by talking and then if you like forming alliances
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healthy alliances but some but it's not been very easy the last three and a half
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government as populations around the world have I thought I was immune from
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ridiculous lockdowns and they think that a lot of people have said to me
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openly said that they they don't want to travel like they did before and that's
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really they've lost their joie de vivre if you like I'm not very good at French
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convinced themselves that they don't want to go to the airport because the
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airport's crazy and Manchester Airport in my opinion is the craziest of all
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and I've thought that for about 20 years now since 9-11 essentially so I
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wonder so I'm thinking that people are not have not recovered from what
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happened in 2020 and after in particular but they weren't very well
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before so Matthias Desnott talks about a free-floating anxiety so I think even he
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doesn't know how to describe it but um but I just wonder whether you think that
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it's possible with these kind of psychological threats and the crazy
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beings should be in my opinion whether whether it's possible to be healthy as
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you're talking about you know
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well I mean that is it's when people ask me on Twitter I would like your kind of
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opinion on this and it's usually like I would put picture up on some flowers and
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you want how far do you want to take this not not in a not in a boastful way
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but it's there's an infinite amount of things that we can take anything down
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I think they recognized you as a leader each so that's why they're asking you
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that's why you're confused maybe I don't know maybe you've realized that people
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are desperate for leadership at the moment and there is no wise leadership or
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there's very little anyway that so yeah I think I was on a space earlier and we
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were on a discussion about kind of God and infinite state and we were talking
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about will there be a savior or like a leader and you know look we've seen what's
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happened you know we've had our leaders as you said our leaders our politicians
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dismantled and it's very disheartening it's it's a it is a there is a global
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conscious anxiety it's okay okay it's it's okay and I also I also said that
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this is okay so look this anxiety can also confuse you when you go into
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spirituality because you're like the world is rubbish and I'm really trying
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good but there's so much kind of badness everywhere how can this be so this is
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like mass confusion in this brief in this kind of spiritual sense there's
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mass confusion in the scientific sense you question it because you're a doctor
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can you can talk down upon them and whatnot but a lot of them also do go do
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they've seen this and lawyers and teachers everyone everyone has this and
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you're going what like what is going on so there is this feeling of like am I
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going crazy also for feeling like a like it is going crazy right because you can
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feel very alone but number two you also have to become comfortable with it this
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is why I recently recently I tweeted Machiavelli and I also talk about
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power I call the masculine or you can in the hindrance to kind of Shakti the
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the universal power is necessary it's the thing that makes your heartbeat is
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the thing that makes your thought work it's things that makes your breath this
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the firing of neurons you can talk about combustion the cosmos movement of time
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everything is movement this is Shakti right now I've lost an attention on this
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on in the hospitals ie there were no patients there during April and May
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certainly in May of 2020 and that I don't know whether I've miss heard but I
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think you were shocked also that the nurses and the doctors who had nothing
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to do in the hospitals but the public outside the hospitals didn't realize
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that but I did because I knew a Daily Mail reporter who was going into the
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hospitals in London every day with her husband and she was telling me that the
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was going on in the hospitals and that's why you left is that right yes I was I
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bored of it I didn't like the burden of it I just saw condescending I just saw
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I saw the papers and the vaccines I understood it and then I saw what was
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going on I was like this is this is you we actually killing people like you know
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like I can't live with this so I needed the courage like this is that's the
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obvious logical logical conclusion is we are killing people and you know we
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start the conversation by saying with a fee with a third leading cause of death
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no no we're the first doctors allow for mental health issues doctors allow for
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weight if they want one them to by helping with their traumas a good doctor
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is a is a leader same as a good lawyer same as a good kind of priest it's this
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or a man or a lady or a transsexual any good person is a good leader but you have
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going on and I was like I'm sick of living in confusion basically and I
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wonderful wonderful adventure on the call I think is that in the UK the
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hospital when the public were clapping every Thursday not me but clapping every
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Thursday night outside their houses for the NHS which was said to be under
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because they had nothing to do in the hospitals the hospitals were empty is
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that right?
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this massive thing and I was like there was a little there was a little peak and
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we were asked to help with the you know the kind of discharge letters and do the
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paperwork and help kind of clean A&E and I was like whoa not whoa like this is
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if you it doesn't work like that
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can reality works more than kind of kind of linearly if you stop if it locked
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misses a cancer diagnosis if you look at it in that sense that changes the whole
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you even if you're healthy so it's for for my sake even for like a selfish
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which is a worldwide sake I was like like lockdowns they just seem stupid and
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that been done yes I can't change it am I like was I at the time like really
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we need to also move on and kind of because I didn't say anything like I
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didn't stand up and say you shouldn't be doing it I like I say in my first
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more because it's all unwell going oh we're here and we're talking and you
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I didn't I could have I like I feel like I could have done something else but
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like I didn't as well so there is you have to understand you you could have but
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you didn't so then you understand is all you have in your hands is denial all you
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have there's no past there's no future that's just a mental kind of imagery and
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we can go there we can go down the kind of new the kind of quantum route and the
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kind of conscious route we can we can go down that route but in reality in all
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this suffering is this thinking and the suffering is take shape in loads of
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forms but it's it's mainly fear so fear takes us away from love love is the now
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about fear takes shapes in loads of forms and for those people at that time it was
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doing ticktock dances because there's no other explanation about someone who's
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fearful or has internal an internal thought or dialogue and there's confusion in there
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and therefore they thought it was necessary that's the only explanation right and I was
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maybe a net you was confusing right how did the dances come about was it was it spontaneous or
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was this a cult is it a cult now I think it is but anyway you say what you like it it depends what
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you want it depends what you want your end kind of goal to be I say in life like if you are if
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necessary for me to look at it to me to live my life in the way then to you to live your life in
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when I looked at I was like this is odd I would and they asked me to dance and I said I'm not
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dancing I'm I'm good um I was like this is weird now I'm like oh but it's a blessing right now I
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can it happened now I can speak to you now we can have this conversation it's like and this
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thoughts and I think it's a very kind of fertile kind of area or thought this is the kind of
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you know kind of Babylon of this this kind of age isn't it so more generally is dancing
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like it and the more I didn't want to dance the more the the women wanted to dance with me
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but I wouldn't do it even in Sweden
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then it's different like Martha would be different if you asked me if you're with
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your partner and about dancing then it's a different thing if you ask me the dancing in
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like a deeper level then it's different thing it's depends how you approach dancing now
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like if it's yeah but that's my point ish is dancing always superficial is it always drawing
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0:39:53 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction] from uh things that they should no no no no no look look I dance all the time when you
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what this life is and I really kind of pray and I and I hope but that's come down to you if you
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your life you can it depends on your approach things so some people dance because they're
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have to dance it's um so then there's a there's a kind of place to dance and there's a place not to
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dance but you know that's that's that's out of your hands you know yeah so um ish um so what is it
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in your background do you think that makes you different from people you know I'm not saying
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so what do you so was it your parents your grandparents was it are you are you originally
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are your family originally from Greece or what was it no no no no this is funny because um
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and nurses will know like you get transferred to the next job and you don't know who these people
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versus and they were like oh is this you and I was like yeah they're like you're not Greek and I was
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like I'm not Greek no um so I'm Sri Lankan um but my surname is sounds very Greek and so they're
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0:41:47 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction] kind of brought me back to that uh time so my parents are
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they came to the UK in the 90s um early 90s um because of the genocide in Sri Lanka
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there were loads of riots so um they felt it was safe for them to come to the UK and have a baby
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because um they were sensible and they were lucky um so my my grandma um must enough you know mustered
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up enough money and had loads of courage um and in kind of intelligence and my kind of grandfather
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with his kind of blessings helped his um his children one by one leave the country and my
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mum was one of them with my dad um they had an arranged marriage and met each other I think once
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or twice before they got married and my um my dad was very open so my mum has all the energy and my
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dad is very open and they were both very open um and uh they uh fell in love I think and they kind
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of kind of grew in love so I was very lucky to have those parents so I got I grew up um in I
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to England um she carried me and she looked out onto the Watford kind of uh road and she said
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there was loads of snow she was like wow there's loads of snow actually before I was born um my
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grandma had a vision oh no my mum had a vision that she was pregnant before she was pregnant
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okay so not knowing what to name me um my uncle named me my name um which means everything which
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means Shiva which is quite kind of ironic um later on I would um I would leave uh the religion
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and all religions and then re-understand my name which is so I find it very funny um and then yeah
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so uh we um I was brought up in a room my uncle's room my mum dad me my uncle's family and two other
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referred to was that so the room in in the terrace house in Watford is that right yes yes
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so that was me my mum my dad um but the house had other people so in that room it was us so I was
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I was born there but I found on her I look if you look at uh money okay numbers-wise um we didn't
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we didn't actually have much okay but in terms of wealth we had I had everything so um I I never
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anyone to be like oh a terrace house wow he came from this he came from the street like no no I
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it is what it is like that's that's the way that's the way it was later yeah
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criticizing it I wasn't later we would um my parents bought um a house on the same road a
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um and then my my mum was adamant she moved to Cassaberry which was a nicer area of Watford and
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it's a location is vital for health right so she understood that um and I say that because in the
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culture like for a woman to be not a woman I wouldn't say the culture but it was different
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for a woman at that in that time to want something and to go out to go out to go out for it and my
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to to give credit to my dad and all the all the men in the family they let her you know they let
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her and some some women don't have that like I guess now but she um bought the house and with
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a lovely kind of upbringing there um I so I was brought up mainly near the near the park which
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is a blessing so I um during the pandemic um stayed there and I bring that up because that's
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I find that like a blessed area um discovered the forest helped me during the pandemic during
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university out uh in Brighton and Sausage University um just by luck I would say you know
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quite pure like they were I had uh interview uh asked my dementia I was very interested in
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dementia I was like um I went to get him I was like we need to we need to cure dementia and then
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0:47:04 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]or she was very lovely she was one of those new doctors not what not the not the UCL
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types I think you know what I mean like the not the Oxford doctors the like the new age less
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0:47:16 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ic and she asked me um and that's and that's no offense to anyone that's just her
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description um she asked me what was kind of vascular dementia and I I only I didn't learn
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about it so I had only focused on one form of dementia I was like uh I'm not sure she was like
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so what do you think it is and I I really liked that she she asked me what do I think it was
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vascular it seems like the convalescence so it seems like it's to do with the blood flow in the
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brain and therefore any disruption in the so she was like yeah that's exactly what it is so
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I think that brings to a nice point by saying like um it's very important it's very important
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0:48:02 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]e you truly truly believe is vibrating on the same level um even
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0:48:24 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ion to understand the truth and if you become comfortable um it's
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not a sign of laziness but you know there's an infiniteness there so um you can come by it
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0:48:38 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]s so it's not a bad thing but um because sometimes you can end up at
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0:48:48 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ion it you go oh everything's okay so but but to get there it's
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it's the question so each you went to medical school you were there for five years presumably
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and then you did your house years so when were you first registered
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0:49:17 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]eam to me um but if you go you can search my name on the
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gmc and it'll probably tell you then but I think 2016 I yeah I did five years I I didn't have any
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gap years or um anything between so I I went into university at age 18 so um yeah so and so and when
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and such that um I felt like I had a decision over it at the time by looking back that's exactly
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what I did yeah but I didn't realize it I didn't realize that until later and now listening to you
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I knew I had to come off because I didn't want the general medical council having anything to
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needed to do in my view which wasn't very which wasn't very clear to me yes yes I just followed
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0:50:20 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]s and um yes yes yes okay Stephen that's one more question there's 25
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minutes we've got and we've got the hands up so hit each with your next question and then we'll
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0:50:32 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ions well yeah I would encourage people to put their hands up and dare
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0:50:38 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ion because the meeting is only as good as the participants so um yeah so bearing
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in mind what each said earlier that you know you need to take responsibility in these terrible times
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0:50:51 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]and that some people are shy I'm very shy they're not shy
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that's okay they'll ask questions if they want to ask questions so but I'm trying to encourage them
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that's all yeah that's okay they're not scared of asking questions so one more question Stephen
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before we go to John um yeah if in your medical opinion and you're allowed to have an opinion as
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told that nobody got to tell us when we were doctors what to do including other doctors very
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0:51:35 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ing we were taught that at our medical school and that's exactly what everybody's got
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0:51:40 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] the patient was best defended against whatever um by a doctor
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who had the patient's interest heart and also the best situation for the patients or patients
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0:51:58 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ors driven by medical ethics each one of them driven
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0:52:05 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ors and all other human beings and so so the opinion of a the
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0:52:14 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]or was yeah anyone so you didn't have to have proof that what you were
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0:52:20 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction] but you're you got to hypothesize about the patient in front of you but the
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0:52:33 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]anding that you're always doing your best for the patient then you shouldn't be a
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0:52:38 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ion so the opinion of a medical doctor who is acting autonomously with medical
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0:52:46 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction] of the patient was the holy grail and that was set up for us and then
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0:52:53 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ion to you is this each so obviously you have to hypothesize sometimes
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otherwise you never get anywhere when you're trying to treat someone especially when they're very ill
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0:53:03 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]n't got time um so um my question is this was there a pandemic or not
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in your opinion
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um wow um was the whole thing a fraud does do your gut feelings tell you that everything's gone
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that's gone on in the last three and a half years and before now we now understand was the whole
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thing a fraud from beginning to end so bearing in mind that deadly viruses
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uh you can't have a deadly viral pandemic because deadly and pandemic cannot coexist in the same
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0:53:47 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]and what i mean so i just wonder whether you think there was a pandemic
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do you think that there was a serious respiratory viral disease circulating the globe
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or was it all a lie because i couldn't see that it was diagnosed properly but you
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0:54:07 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] want your opinion ish i don't want to form your opinion i think that depends on who you ask
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i think that depends on who you ask i'd say if there's a pandemic for you then there's a pandemic
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for me for me i look at it like a blessing look i'm here with you well i just want to know what
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your opinion is your gut feeling from from my limited from a very limited knowledge from my
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the condition of medical school from germ theory and the other theory and everything i know
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from what they for what what they tell me and what if the my belief in pub med
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from all this conditioning it i saw some something that looked like a viral
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but our response to it was a lot worse than what it was and the other evidence has shown
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that this thing whether it's a a flying genetic thing whether it's a virus whatever you want to
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call it this thing or kind of evil you can call it that as well this thing even fear let's say
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because this fear i could transcend everything if anything i learned in the in the panic in the
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actual pandemic what was worse than the virus was actually fear so for me yes i've written about the
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virus and the particles we can go down that route but i actually really am interested in the fear
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because fear is the thing that ruined everything we let so many absolutely absolutely i agree with
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you each but i'm so i'm not as so i wasn't saying that i don't believe in viruses i'm just saying
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that there was no pandemic but it may be the case that viruses don't exist as well but we haven't
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got time to look into that at the moment yeah i mean look if in my memory there seems to be a time
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about the pandemic but in my when i look around i i focus more on the future now i just not even
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0:56:13 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction] i just go okay the pandemic happened yes but like what
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i can't really do anything anymore about the pandemic like i've written a book well i talked
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0:56:25 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction] to hold these people responsible for this massive fraud to account
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otherwise they'll do it again so um so you know i do think that people like you and i and charles
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we can and no we can't move on without holding people properly to account because that's a very
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0:56:55 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ate of affairs we can't have these people wandering politicians the the regulators
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0:57:01 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ors you know who were responsible for whatever um certainly chris witty the the chief
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medical officer of england and others my my um sorry i think i should say i think it's sometimes
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it's very easy to confuse the state of just wanting to be with the now which i will say
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0:57:25 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ate of kind of passivity it's like the kind of spiritual person
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or go and pray all the time no no no i see everything as divine but i have my and yes if
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if it's in god's hands for them and it is in god's hands for whatever happens to these people who've
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0:57:48 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction] who who've actually had this crime we all i'm doing and all i'm saying is
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0:57:54 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] lead me where you need to lead me i'm just going to be here with you and if that's
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whether we're whether it's in law whether i have to write another book or whether it's just
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enjoying nature then kind of so be it and so i've just given all my my powers kind of to it and
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because i know it is more kind of intelligent than me it's an infinite state i'm just i'm part of it
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0:58:17 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] go you like i think i know you are perfect you can only be good do whatever you want
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so i can be with you more and i hope that you see people are suffering and i and i know you
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do because you are intelligent and i hope you see that people have done wrong and i and in my heart
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i know everything that you've done is for all good so i don't see a a combating good but just lead me
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to the right conversations i know you will lead me to the right kind of spaces i know you will
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make sure i'm healthy i know you will give me any food because i know you will i will accept
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0:58:57 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] to be vegan if i have to eat meat that's that's okay so there's no
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0:59:02 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] accept you so i'm i'm happy in that state and whether i'm so i i do uh kind of
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0:59:10 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] did this discussion i've kind of released books but i've done it with
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this love you know like i wrote this book because i needed to i had to come on like we need to help
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0:59:23 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e how can you not how how they're not like 87 87 books now trying to help there should
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0:59:29 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e than there are papers on the amount of damage everyone should
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be online okay so then it brings to the point where yes doctors are leaders but the patient
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is also a leader as well so is everyone else like i come to the point everyone is is kind of is
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0:59:47 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] to look after yourself and the only way to understand this is by
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0:59:54 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]anding that um so yeah the the question of if the pandemic is real or not is dependent on
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the individual ask ask an ant or ask a a mushroom and they were like what there's there was no
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1:00:15 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]and that as well because your life there was nothing else you we can have this
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this conversation and tomorrow you're you're dead so sometimes worrying about something too much is
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there's also negative and it sometimes it's difficult because it comes from love i'm not
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saying don't but really go okay how can i quiet in the inner this i'd have to make kind of peace
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with it or look into it and if not what what steps can i do to make peace with this so whether
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that's talking up writing a book uh kind of healing your trauma that gets you closer to this kind of
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quietness then you could live your life very happily then actually this world that we call
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hell and this confusion becomes very easy to navigate you've got kind of artificial intelligence
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coming up amazing invention we don't have to work and uh you know work 95 anymore and kind of you
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know and i kill ourselves we can focus on actual things that can help us those yes people will have
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1:01:11 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction] but all the candle makers thought one day you know they they never thought they would
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1:01:17 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction] mankind's kind of evolution accept it use it to your kind of be
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be powerful with it come with uh divinity and love and understand like it's okay so use ai use apps
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like you don't have to always see these things as bad yes yes the the kind of pandemic happened it
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1:01:38 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]e they were suffering yes i'm not i'm not denying that people should be
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locked up i'm not denying that um it was wrong i'm not denying that but we need to move forward
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because it was it's in the bestest best kind of interest in every in everyone's life we have to
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um yeah basically okay ish thank you thank you steven excellent question discussion all right
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we've got some hands up so we'll now go to john look at first in texas or texas john or florida
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virginia oh gosh i keep yes thank you sorry it's a no it's no place um each that was the best
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non-answer fence sitting position i've ever heard i i understand though um where you're coming from
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1:02:29 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction] for you well i can i can only speak for myself it existed for me um and i i watched
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1:02:38 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]s it had on a lot of people you know i took this defensive position
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because it was so offensive um you know i'm going to throw out just kind of an open question to you
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and it's i know you probably haven't uh even looked down any of the same rabbit holes i have
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but you know i'll put one in the chat that's just kind of a place anyone interested can go if they
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want to lose themselves down a bottomless well um this is just one link on a page that i spent
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1:03:12 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] seeing what the hell was there um it just has to do with
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um every kind of uh artificial mental and physical manipulation somebody in the world has come up with
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as a form of duress um and there's a lot of fear porn out there where you have you know people
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running around showing you know this patent that patent this experiment that you know witness that
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you know they're they're so they're so powerful they're so capable of turning us into remote
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control toys we won't even know they're doing it uh how can you trust your own mind i mean
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you know i think that on a limited scale a lot of this probably is possible i mean if you put enough
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pressure on somebody and do enough experimentation on them you can turn and train a human to be
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i don't know point a satellite at a country and do it to everybody in the same fashion
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i do think that there are shades of influence that are possible and some of them are pretty easy
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you know there are seven different emotional states i can put you in just by
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beaming the right ray gun at you with the right modulation so you know there's kind of stuff that
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we're vulnerable to just by owning some of these devices apps technologies and so forth
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here's what i'm wondering and you know we don't know each other i just have your background on
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1:04:51 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]ion here to go by let's just assume for a minute that you're great at all that stuff
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what is and i'll use something i'll say it the way steven said what's your gut tell you
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based on your expertise do you see any evidence of you know any of your personal experience or
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i mean i'm not saying it's in everybody i'm just saying when i look at you know mitch mcconnell
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be led off when i see politicians with aids standing behind them that are mouthing the
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1:05:35 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]s that are coming out of their mouth even the mistakes i mean these are very weird you know
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1:05:41 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ances every one of those kinds of things has an explanation on that creepy website about exactly
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how that's accomplished you know nefariously um i don't know what to make of it you know i mean
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1:05:54 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] you know another weird video all i'm asking is um what your experience is
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as an expert you know and the things you study and are interested in do you think a lot of this
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because of the difficulty of um feeling kind of crazy because sometimes on this spiritual path
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because everyone because you ask more and more questions you begin to ask questions and you're
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like am i going crazy okay so to do that i had some safety nets so one of them was
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was david bohme's theory of quantum mechanics okay so for me he was a saint he just wrote the lord
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in quantum okay now oberheim knew this and so did all his colleagues david bohm had in kind of quantum
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sense given us a glimpse of what god is okay and i find it extremely funny because i was reading
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david bohme's book and you actually say um and you you actually said um you know do you think
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there's like a glitch in the matrix what's happening have you have you experienced
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they're giving you a call have you gone to your mom's house needing something and then she's like
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here and you're like what like i wanted pizza like how did you know this like
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all of those things all of this yes so um david bohme he he understood that knowledge itself
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knowledge itself was embedded in the in the actual universe which is the same
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consciousness um and it has to be because it made you and you that appreciate it is also
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is there but to truly appreciate it you have to look at knowledge itself you have to transcend
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knowledge that's the kind of funny trick that it kind of plays itself you have to transcend that
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1:08:24 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]ains that there's an infinite realm and basically our um our particles that we
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1:08:31 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]rons and whatnot you know scientists have had a very good very difficult time in
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uh quantum because they can't explain um what it is they take a measurement it's there they take
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another minute they take another measurement is there but they're like why did this move like this
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1:08:49 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]it kind of experiment so people were like uh controlling
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1:08:54 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] uh the particle you know kind of travels like a particle and like a
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wave and that's kind of true right because we always have to say what i'm talking about here is
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1:09:07 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]etely wrong but i'm saying um there are some truths that are more
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truthful than other truths some some frequencies that vibrate at a higher high more universal
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kind of frequencies there's some theories that are more correct if you know what i mean so um
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so david bohme's work david bohme said no there must be he used um newtonian physics and he put
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it into quantum and made this equation and to make it work there had to be this special
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little denominator which he called the quantum potential okay so the quantum potential basically
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1:09:47 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] the material world here but underneath it there's a dance happening
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1:09:54 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]ually creates this quantum there's actual quantum material
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world and this dance is basically like if you would see a radio signal on a ship now we think
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because the ship is big it should be able to navigate itself but the the the navigation is
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not reliant on force it's relying the direction is very weak as compared to the ship's um kind
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1:10:21 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] is a 3d wave on a 2d structure or a different kind of
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element in a contour itself but david bohme saying all elements have like this wave that they are
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um kind of created okay if i could if i could make this easier for you i i know where you're
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going with this i believe um you're a radio and you're to some degree or another uh able to
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1:10:53 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ion perception awareness from whatever the source of that is um i guess my
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1:11:02 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ion is more about it obviously we don't know with any degree of certainty what the actual
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1:11:09 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ion is that allows that type of communication to happen there's a lot of opinions
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about it so i'm very good um but if somebody does or somebody has grasped enough of how it works to
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1:11:23 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]s i guess what i'm trying to get at is um do you think
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that you see that going on um you know when you talk about physics you talk about the things that
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we can influence you know physical matter influencing physical matter we've got a bunch
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of rules they work within you know a range of uh perception and then there's these very tiny
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1:11:51 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ic larger realms and higher uh perceptive places that we can only
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speculate about dimensions and whatnot i mean we're in the spot we're in we're dealing with what
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we can deal with and we're trying very hard to expand that awareness um but you know if you ever
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1:12:14 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ually figured out a good amount of something that the rest of us can't
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really touch or measure or anything and can trick us with it that's that's the sorcery right
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1:12:28 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] want to know if you think it's going on you think that maybe somebody has
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got a leg up on this i i bring up david bone's work because this man he describes in the quantum
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way in science it's important because science is now looked as god people you you can't deny that
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1:12:50 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ions in their arms because we thought science was god we were like
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agreed it's it's it's going to save us it's going to help us so we're gonna so we're going to just
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1:13:00 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]en to it and that's fine i'm not saying it's not but david bone using uh quantum physics which
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is everything so quantum is basically what happens uh in the quantum level which where um normal
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day-to-day newtonian kind of physics it doesn't work and no one knows why so this man single-handedly
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1:13:20 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ood it wrote a textbook on it the most intellectual individual there not not i would
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1:13:24 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ual than kind of albert anstein than kind of uh kind of openheimer he he
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they doubted him so he wrote a textbook on quantum so um this man had an intellect level 99 so god
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1:13:37 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction] level 99 let's just let's just say that we have me researchers who couldn't get
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the pandemic this man was had a different mind let's just let's put them that he wrote and he
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1:13:48 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ood because he saw the world differently no there's a quantum realm he basically he he
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1:13:55 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]n he he basically explained to people um that quantum physics has
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1:14:02 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]ained this and you know what he did for the rest of his life he didn't preach or anything
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he he wrote books on uh dialogue he spent the rest of his life he knew what the most and the most
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important thing to do for mankind was to have this dialogue so he he spent the rest of his life
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actually writing books on dialogue writing books on creativity of this was the universal energy
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because he knew that there was nothing else to do this is infinite energy what's what is really
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1:14:29 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]and it you can't do much with it so it's like uh it is what
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is it is it not like i like i get it it can feel um very it's like why is it helpful but to those
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1:14:44 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]and it can be very helpful because it can unshackle some of this um need for science to
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be a religion so one once science has been disproven now which which kind david berm did so
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they exiled him so this is someone you should listen to they exiled him open how my use david
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1:15:03 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]asma research to make the atom bomb and they didn't put david berms name in the film
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there's a reason for this come on look at you they rewrite history there's a reason why open
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open heimer is a film now they focus on his mind and how it's okay to kill
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yeah boom was saying no no no no no no no and they they exiled him and then anyway he went down this
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kind of spiritual route and he he showed the existence of um this state open heimer and his
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colleagues read it and david berm was like well this will change science if you if you understand
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this concept it will change all of science you look back and go okay and if nothing make if if
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everything we've worked for right now makes no sense because it's garbage in this in this level
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1:15:49 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]art and focus our our our thing is that's not what they want they want us to
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1:15:54 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]and it yes yes but at the end of day it to to enter this realm let's say of understanding
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1:16:03 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] thought and thinking and the suffering of thought you will be manipulated
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1:16:10 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] fear they will manipulate you using fear so you can transcend fear so i can go
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down the new uh the kind of cortisol route or the kind of hrv route but you want to control the mind
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and your thought and your fear you want to be you want to transcend it now this is why i said in the
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1:16:26 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] i've actually tweeted i see the world as a place where it will be you will see saints and
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we will see angels and which what i mean is not anything from the sky or anything like that and
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1:16:36 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]e will just avoid this mess some people will just live in the state
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1:16:43 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] be led by fear
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yep okay um i'll uh i'll throw a poem by we henley that speaks to that in the chat
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thank you for your response okay gabriel did you did you drop out or did you
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oh i'm still here excellent well you had your hand up and then we got shasta so um because i know
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1:17:16 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]aying havoc with hands up so do you have a question for each or should we go to shesta
767
1:17:22 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] wanted to expand a bit because i know there was a bit of back and forth over
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you know whether the pandemic was real or not and i try to differentiate between you know there was
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between you know there was this sociological event that where a lot of this damage took place
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and to me somebody saying whether or not it you know there was a pandemic or not doesn't
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necessarily tell me whether they believe the deaths were caused by sars-cov-2 or you know
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hospital measures or other things that were happening at the same time i think it's helpful
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1:17:54 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] be clear and separate what somebody means when they say i don't believe you know x
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happened or that you do believe you know why happened in that scenario and the other thing
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when it comes to love and responsibility you know um i don't think that accountability you know
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holding officials accountable or even prosecuting them under the law is in any way incompatible
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1:18:18 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ually recognize that these people were human beings like sd would be
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1:18:23 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]andard we would like ourselves to be held under um when it
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1:18:28 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]e and so i do think that there is a kind of overcautiousness where
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1:18:34 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] to come from a place of love which to many people almost seems to imply
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that nobody should be held accountable and to me i think we are doing them a favor by giving them
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1:18:45 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ually you know repent for crimes rather than have a lot of hanging animosity
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you will hopefully one day like i'm like i'm going to say from my experience you will actually thank
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them and you will go thank you for um the suffering now people get that twisted and they go well that
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means you're kind of letting them go no like the universe will look will will kind of deal with
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that but like it's a it's a hard thing to get your head around and most people maybe not
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1:19:19 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]e maybe not but for me i'm like at a stage where i'm like um
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you know it's a good time for repent like it's good time for forgiveness really like real
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1:19:31 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ually forgive yourself you know i mean like sit on a bench
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have a cigarette like i don't care and actually just forgive yourself forgive stuff because a lot
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1:19:41 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ually in the pandemic so we have to remember like this is for everyone like
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things we're not proud of people we could have interacted differently with both sides not one or
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the other and there's a division we all say this is division so the only way is by for an undivided
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whole is for everyone to be on the same page there's only one same page there is only one same page
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that's all i'm going to say but um but yeah like you that doesn't mean yeah uh because spirituality
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doesn't mean uh passivity you can maybe the most loveliest thing you can do at that time
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for bill gates is open the door but like another time the the most loveliest thing we can do if
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he's the one that we need to get and it's to help him why does he have so much kind of trauma
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why is he doing this why is there so much darkness in him they're like like that's just think about
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this is man who's mentally unwell he is he's mentally unwell he is in the in the medical sense
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he's lost he's incongruent he is the definition of crazy he says something he does something
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like he wants to pop this and he wants to i don't know whether he wants to whether he's being led to
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if he's a puppet regardless this thing that we think he is is very confused like why are we
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1:20:57 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ening to it you wouldn't go down the street and if someone and you would if you judge that
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person if you think they are crazy you wouldn't listen to them right so why are you giving this
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person more power than that person either you listen to everyone the same or you forget everyone
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1:21:15 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]and like this um you know the the best way sometimes to
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1:21:22 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]abilise a source is to ignore it cut off the nutrients in the cancer leaders are really poor
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1:21:33 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] really poor leaders they are not really they're not intellectual a good leader is someone
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with power and power is either fear or love they've lost the fear front we we don't see them as
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powerful we we make memes come on we make me we laugh at them they and they know this so they
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take so they double down on the on the pain the more you fear the more power you give away that's
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all you do all you can do is love or fear there's no both you can't love is the first feeling is
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what the heart sings it lives in the in the other dimension if you walk past a poor person and your
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heart says to give money that's what love says the mind comes and fear comes and goes oh yeah but you
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don't have money now that that the the kind of christ-like thing to do you can say at the moment
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1:22:21 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]en to your heart or your soul or your spirit and just give the money doesn't matter give
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who cares what happens to the money and then if you do that then if you form a relationship with
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1:22:31 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] gives you money later on it doesn't matter this person needed more at that moment so
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1:22:36 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] is a now right so um often attention again i'm sorry but yes i can you know
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i don't know where to take this okay no that's that's that's explained gabriel any thoughts
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1:22:51 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] dropped off for a moment nope i'm good he can go ahead
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1:23:00 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ion so um this question of fear you know my favorite
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acronym that i use in many of my presentations um ish is forget everything and run
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and i and there's another nice acronym i talked about in fact in my in my show yesterday episode
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1:23:24 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] face everything and rise you know and this this whole idea of fear in my view
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1:23:35 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]ation of pain and what you're touching on is i can't give money to this poor
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person because i might run out and so and so fear is an expectation of pain we're driven by pleasure
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and pain for each one of it's a different it's a different illusion for some people like steven
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watching women's sport is painful and for me i was a member of the australian women's water polo team
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1:24:02 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] to say but um you know i love watching women's tennis compared to men's tennis
832
1:24:10 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]easure and pain we have different equations but fear is simply
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1:24:16 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ation of pain of some sort then my question is this it is my observation that
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1:24:25 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]em has designed us to consider all pain to be bad and therefore and therefore
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1:24:34 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]s my i'm really talking about what's your perspective on our capacity
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1:24:42 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ually bear whatever we define as pain but our capacity to bear it and therefore from your
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1:24:49 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]en what are you scared about pain for that's my question and i look at him
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1:24:54 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]ory and i've read read many books and human beings we are simply extraordinary at
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our ability to bear pain look we are perfect like every single thing we have every emotion
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every organ whether we cut it out or not um our skin it's perfect it's made perfectly it's made
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it's made no as perfect as a stars it's made as perfect as zebras as tigers as sheep as it look
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if you go on a farm and look at these animals you're like like how look if you look at a rose
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like how look at the intricate nature of a rose why rose why was a rose made of everything
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1:25:39 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]and that you are part of this kind of poem um and you have to understand
845
1:25:46 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] pain what what is pain pain is necessary without pain your mother won't
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1:25:54 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] pain that pain of childbirth gives the the baby the best
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tool for survival it's the best it's the best the mom who has no pain a numb woman doesn't
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1:26:07 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]and that she had to she had to nearly die now that is a sort of love so in that back
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we don't do that as much but that sort of pain can you can actually transcend someone
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because you're giving your pain away to this baby so you go in that moment i do not matter so you
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1:26:26 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] a poor person you go because you think you matter more than the
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person you don't want to get money that moment a woman would give birth and say no if i die it's
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okay i want the baby what so you know in like a car crash what does the lady say is the baby okay
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they don't care about themselves so the woman uh men as well you know we don't have to make it
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1:26:46 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] but pain is necessary pain in in any sense necessary so i say like you know in the
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1:26:52 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] uh satin satin in numerology is a teacher so people hate satin
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so satin is basically it comes over you and you know when you're born it's basically everyone
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says it's bad luck but if you have a certain other you know luck and other karma and other
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1:27:12 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] the knowledge to understand satin then once it leaves you become knowledgeable
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about fear okay so basically if you understand fear i say satin because satin is a very humble
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thing it wants you to be humbled it humbles you and it wants you to kind of scrub the toilet
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there's some things like in the kind of horoscope which like the sun and stuff like that kind of
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gives you wealth while satin it said it doesn't like the sun in that in that way because it likes
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to be humble so it humbles you fear humbles you it's supposed to humble you when you give birth
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this fear of god is a humbling fear it's not like i'm scared because i'm doing something wrong you
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shouldn't be doing anything wrong for you to fear it it's a fear of humbling it's like you're bigger
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than me cool like when you're in the sea you know by yourself you know like that those moments
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where you allow it but you can only feel those moments if you go past fear you have to go into
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the ocean to be near death to go okay you have to jump that cliff if that's your life you have to
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1:28:19 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]e sometimes it's your life sometimes the sacrifice is your life
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and if it's the right the right sacrifice and it's always through love like it's you know very easy
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to go through like oh it could be through hate and people can take it in the wrong way god works
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through love that's that's it because if you have no fear there is only love so psychologically
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neurochemically in the quantum world the self the ego that comes with the fear is a is i say it's a
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torture it's satan the bad satan if it if you let it if you let it if you understand if you look
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at satan for what it is it becomes an angel you understand that it's part of god so it doesn't
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let you don't let it suffer anymore you just sit on top of it that's why shiva sits on top of his
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mind that's that's the tiger the tiger's not a literal tiger these are all symbols he sits with
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his eyes closed because he can see god with his eye but he needs to sit on his mind first so it's
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very important and if you want to or not and i could this could all be blabber but it's very
881
1:29:28 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]and that this fear and mind is rooted and i can explain it down the vegas nerve
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root uh pregnenolone uh you know cortisol the dmn you know cancilla cybin can do this
883
1:29:40 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction] and then ibram thought the inner capsule of the mind was a
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a kind of hologram and the the um kind of we had consistency inside which would reflect um the pure
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entity inside our minds but our thinking was the thing that gets in the way then you combine it
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1:29:59 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]s energy of the serpent then this is come on this is ancient
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knowledge i could take this down any route but everyone in this conversation will be like oh
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that doesn't make sense like even the biochemical sense the quantum sense there there is this
889
1:30:15 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]anding and like i said health is different uh layers for understanding of it is different
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layers but remember it picks you god chooses you for you to know it so um the ego you is even there
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you need to be when you meditate when you pray be careful it's very easy to go oh okay i uh i see it
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i'm more spiritual uh you know than others no no no no simple be humble like that that's what i tell
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myself like this is a gift uh it's a gift to be in this conversation it's a gift to talk to people
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it's good to be alive it's good to wake up every morning there's i know friends who died why did i
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write my book because uh my friend of mine took the job and he died i knew uh kanamai god liked his
896
1:30:58 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]hand it's not i want to have a good time as well so like as well
897
1:31:05 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] these conversations and they're serious and they should be just because they're
898
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serious doesn't mean we don't have to have fun you can have fun very seriously um you can ride
899
1:31:14 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] you can if you sit on your mind if you see satan if you face him that means filtering your
900
1:31:20 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]-like that's all you have to do just be good you know if your
901
1:31:26 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] do it it would only lead you to goodness um but this is what i specialize in
902
1:31:32 --> 1:31:40
with my company the vessel is um is damaged and the vaccine's worse than it so kind of
903
1:31:40 --> 1:31:44
oxytocin gets worse and so that's a love woman that gets worse and i think there's an obsession
904
1:31:44 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]e that's the vaccine damage there's a vagus nerve issue there's an
905
1:31:48 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ressed angry very confused hurtful so it becomes quite difficult
906
1:31:56 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction] to be quite kind of cunning to with love kind of deal with
907
1:32:02 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]e also we need to help them so that's my area of understanding help the human
908
1:32:10 --> 1:32:17
uh potential rise up rise above what we think is kind of is kind of here excellent
909
1:32:17 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]e in the present situation uh when all these medical counter
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measures for a purported pandemic were in my opinion not justified uh and actually were
911
1:32:34 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction] importantly of all lack of informed consent there was never
912
1:32:41 --> 1:32:47
any possibility of informed consent being obtained for any of the injections um so
913
1:32:49 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]e then you need to help them to understand what went on
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and to remove the danger of them going for further injections because loads of people
915
1:33:01 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] flu vaccinations in inverted commas in the uk so
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1:33:09 --> 1:33:14
i'm not sure that i agree with your kind of laissez-faire uh it sounds like laissez-faire
917
1:33:14 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] everything to god when actually god allows a lot of suffering so i
918
1:33:20 --> 1:33:26
do believe that this is i've come to understand that this is a spiritual war i really envy people
919
1:33:26 --> 1:33:33
i don't envy anybody actually but i really wish i had uh some kind of um
920
1:33:33 --> 1:33:38
of um the kind of peace of mind that comes with knowing you're going to heaven
921
1:33:38 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]n one day and being surrounded by angels you know i wish i could believe this
922
1:33:45 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]range to me that god shows himself to some and not to others even when some of the
923
1:33:54 --> 1:34:02
others who he doesn't show himself to are actually good people we i think we're all we're all good
924
1:34:02 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]e um and it depends on karma i think it's just if you really want to if you want to think
925
1:34:10 --> 1:34:19
about it like the as god itself doesn't really care it's like i tell people do you care about
926
1:34:19 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]ove over when you went on your trip to africa no you you
927
1:34:25 --> 1:34:32
you were dealing with this infiniteness that it might do it might care about us but we can
928
1:34:32 --> 1:34:39
only hope it does let's just put it that way we can only hope it does um so we can in that state
929
1:34:39 --> 1:34:47
be like oh god hates me or we can say god loves me like you have that ability okay so but to really
930
1:34:47 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]ually a force isn't it like uh if god's infinite how dare i say anything
931
1:34:55 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]s tell you this is just through my experience from my understanding um
932
1:35:01 --> 1:35:07
like i said it's very easy to also um see this as being passive look i left my work
933
1:35:07 --> 1:35:15
i wrote i've written four books one is to help the nhs uh one is to help those who are vaccinated and i
934
1:35:15 --> 1:35:24
um uncover all lies i did it with no money i did it um whilst uh was on the doll at the same time
935
1:35:24 --> 1:35:29
i was writing three other books uh um one is now recently recently released about
936
1:35:31 --> 1:35:35
mushrooms their kind of medicinal properties and then one in between kind of came to me
937
1:35:36 --> 1:35:44
so i've not been i've not been lazy i i just focused my time on i've leveraged it uh you know
938
1:35:45 --> 1:35:50
but it's a difference between are people ready for the book this is what this is what it taught me
939
1:35:50 --> 1:35:57
i i put so much kind of behind these things but i asked even clare craig and uh she even she said
940
1:35:57 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]e don't buy her books it's it's it's it doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense when you go you
941
1:36:03 --> 1:36:06
know if you don't understand it but if you go if you understand that these people have been
942
1:36:06 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction] a lot of them have trauma they've taken jabs which makes them
943
1:36:12 --> 1:36:15
confused that's this is the last thing they want to think about they just want to have a good time
944
1:36:16 --> 1:36:23
they might be right maybe for them this maybe for people they don't want to be said oh this is
945
1:36:23 --> 1:36:29
bad what we can do is help those who come to us and just be open i say be like a tree you're
946
1:36:29 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]s there there's fruit if you want it if you don't there's no fruit if you want to leave my
947
1:36:34 --> 1:36:41
shade it's cool but i'm here that's all you can do you can't um you can pray you can will um but
948
1:36:41 --> 1:36:47
it's the divine law whether some people do or not now to worry about that too much is it takes you
949
1:36:47 --> 1:36:52
on the loop again and then you go oh am i doing is this right it is wrong what should i do and
950
1:36:52 --> 1:36:57
you get confused i left my work i was like this is incongruent i don't want to think about it left it
951
1:36:57 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ill umming i'm making an r-ring that causes too much too much confusion they're like
952
1:37:02 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction] my work i want to do this so i left it i and i i think personally i was fairly
953
1:37:07 --> 1:37:12
active let's just say but i just let the i now just let the kind of uh universe take me now i
954
1:37:12 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction] go um okay there's a conversation if i need to be in this conversation with you it will let
955
1:37:15 --> 1:37:21
me you'll just say i'll give you an email someone will talk to you it's cool i make content i shared
956
1:37:21 --> 1:37:27
all my threads of my book onto this for free i write about mushrooms i do spaces for free i do
957
1:37:27 --> 1:37:33
consultations i need to pay the bills i do i do these calls and um people who need to listen come
958
1:37:33 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]e who do one-to-one conversations they are ready for me people
959
1:37:37 --> 1:37:43
who don't aren't um that's just i just let that that's the way it is how dare i know
960
1:37:43 --> 1:37:49
who can change this the thing it's saved my life i'm very grateful for it i think only good will
961
1:37:49 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ually come and i'm happy there um so yeah um this doesn't mean i don't condemn
962
1:37:57 --> 1:38:02
anything or i don't think anything that's bad they're very two different things bad and good
963
1:38:02 --> 1:38:09
are very human concepts very fragmentary concepts i'm i just think it is what it is it's happened we
964
1:38:09 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]and what is what is because if you don't look at it and go this is what it is no one
965
1:38:14 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]ually saw it you would leave you would leave next day if you
966
1:38:18 --> 1:38:25
actually saw it because when you do you're like oh okay this is stupid um you leave you just do
967
1:38:25 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] one life i'm gonna i'm gonna smell the roses
968
1:38:29 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] important thing i could do at this moment talking to you about
969
1:38:34 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] important thing i could do but when i'm with my family it's not
970
1:38:39 --> 1:38:43
it's not the most important the voice the most important is be with god god is everywhere god
971
1:38:43 --> 1:38:48
you are i am whether you know it or not is the difference and this is the point of kind of
972
1:38:48 --> 1:38:55
generation grounded because i saw something i was like okay maybe you can stumble upon this
973
1:38:56 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]umble upon this truth maybe it's the realization so we are all heavenly this is
974
1:39:02 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]n it's just the way it's the way you look at it and it comes from within so it's very easy
975
1:39:06 --> 1:39:11
like i say when you're stressed when you're angry everything becomes angry everything becomes like
976
1:39:11 --> 1:39:18
this problem everything becomes small like everyone becomes your enemy you hate your neighbor the
977
1:39:18 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]ure becomes very gray it's okay it's helpful kind of fear is helpful
978
1:39:23 --> 1:39:29
but it's too much it's too excessive i'm saying cool everything's good you have the internet food
979
1:39:29 --> 1:39:34
is there especially if you live in like the west come on it's not gonna be a food you know we will
980
1:39:34 --> 1:39:42
have food healthy food yes a bit more expensive but that's okay we can we can make do we have a
981
1:39:42 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction] sunlight yes we have we have chemtrails but we have vitamin c we have
982
1:39:48 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction] a trilogy so i just i instead of focusing out because i think
983
1:39:56 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction] in them i inform i go this is crap we have fluoride in our tap water but i've
984
1:40:03 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]s been the sort of person who gives it the problem but i never want to just leave it there
985
1:40:07 --> 1:40:12
because i'm like well that's pointless if someone gave me bad advice and left i'm like what what
986
1:40:13 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]s try to give some something i found so that's the twitter
987
1:40:18 --> 1:40:23
that's my book that's my mushroom so i fluoride is bad but look these things might help in the
988
1:40:23 --> 1:40:28
scientific sense not medical advice scientific literature has shown this now i can't do the
989
1:40:28 --> 1:40:34
feeding the feeding is down to you now i'm not saying read it don't read it read my read my
990
1:40:34 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction] found it have found it helpful and it's just what i'm
991
1:40:40 --> 1:40:41
doing now so yeah
992
1:40:44 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]or uk doctor i can't remember who which is pretty um
993
1:40:53 --> 1:40:58
well it's probably better um but anyway this doctor had qualified in 2018
994
1:40:59 --> 1:41:08
and we were talking about what had happened and um and i was uh saying as usual what i thought
995
1:41:08 --> 1:41:15
and asking him what he thought but in the end he said steven you don't seem to understand
996
1:41:16 --> 1:41:24
and i said what do you mean by that and he said you don't understand something uh i i i understand
997
1:41:24 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ening to you he said to me so i said what don't i understand he said the doctor's
998
1:41:31 --> 1:41:39
qualifying with me and you know in latter years they don't care about the patients
999
1:41:40 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ion to you is is that true
1000
1:41:45 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] when you said that and i the kind of last 10 20 years came flooding back to me and i
1001
1:41:53 --> 1:41:59
thought to myself well that fits but i never even thought of it i just assumed that all doctors
1002
1:41:59 --> 1:42:07
thought like i did and then i realized when this guy this doctor who'd qualified in 2018
1003
1:42:08 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ually a lot of the things made sense when i realized
1004
1:42:14 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ors don't care anymore they were in medicine because they wanted the status
1005
1:42:20 --> 1:42:29
or the money or both um and they didn't care about their patients is that true maybe i mean i
1006
1:42:29 --> 1:42:35
can't vouch for others but for me i went into medicine now i think back because i didn't really
1007
1:42:35 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]ep i can't lie that that was there but i didn't want to state
1008
1:42:42 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] kind of for sake i like to be a leader like i wanted to help people with
1009
1:42:48 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]atus it's like no point being i hated politics this is stupid so i was like okay
1010
1:42:54 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]atus is needed i would like to help people um and also i was poor my parents were
1011
1:43:01 --> 1:43:08
poor so i was like i need to get them out of this hellhole um so i was like happy um i wanted to
1012
1:43:08 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]ually i want to look at mental health differently i
1013
1:43:15 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]erol differently everything differently i wanted a a gym as a
1014
1:43:22 --> 1:43:29
a gb surgery that was my pre-pandemic idea so this is not like a new thing kind of let's say so i was
1015
1:43:29 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]ioning i was also questioning things and i was because i was
1016
1:43:35 --> 1:43:40
i was blessed with my own suffering i've had a stutter all my life and i didn't um for since
1017
1:43:40 --> 1:43:50
age of six i was very anxious i had a lot of fear and so i had to look at fear i had to face it so i
1018
1:43:51 --> 1:43:58
even though i had the fear i was kind of blessed with the kind of just maybe tenaciousness or
1019
1:43:59 --> 1:44:04
the need to be curious and need to find answers and one answer to kind of cure this all because
1020
1:44:04 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ually went into medicine looking at if i can cure a stutter or and then
1021
1:44:10 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ually wanted to help people um this is what happened so i can't brush out this
1022
1:44:19 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]atus and i can't i can't judge them some people are done out of money so they
1023
1:44:22 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]e don't have this have this internal conflict so they need that most people
1024
1:44:27 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]e need a hug and say dude like you're good and it's very cutthroat in
1025
1:44:32 --> 1:44:37
medicine it's very it picks for the people and you can't blame the people if the system picks
1026
1:44:37 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]e it's very very cutthroat it's still paternalistic the the the rules are there like
1027
1:44:47 --> 1:44:53
the inclusiveness but there's still and i might be wrong and i do think it's changing
1028
1:44:54 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]em is slowly dissipating so this old paternalistic view in general in this in
1029
1:45:00 --> 1:45:07
in this world i believe is changing um but medicine is becoming more feminine in the
1030
1:45:07 --> 1:45:12
feminine sense of the kind of energy sense and i think the care is coming back and i think that's
1031
1:45:12 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]age um you'll see this confusion like um yes doctors are
1032
1:45:19 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]atus but i can't really i can't really blame them i mean for me
1033
1:45:24 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ioned it um and it made me lucky because i was able to sit out the
1034
1:45:33 --> 1:45:37
tik tok i've always been someone who has never kind of followed the crowd and that's the thing
1035
1:45:37 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction] as gospel don't i say in the kovac books uh in the kovac
1036
1:45:44 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ion everything i do as well um so i've always questioned everything
1037
1:45:50 --> 1:45:56
um that kind of transcended or kind of was my predisposition before medicine and then it only
1038
1:45:56 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] that more than others some will go down the rabbit hole
1039
1:46:00 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] to be blessed like you just even if you let's say you don't have
1040
1:46:06 --> 1:46:11
that that person doesn't care if they're if they're if they're truly content they don't really care
1041
1:46:11 --> 1:46:15
because they're not really comparing there are people out there who are content you know with
1042
1:46:15 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]e life we might think they're not very very kind of very clever
1043
1:46:20 --> 1:46:23
they might be dirt poor they might look like someone who is kind of lower class
1044
1:46:24 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]ually can happy than you so actually who is the one who knows everything
1045
1:46:29 --> 1:46:34
um so i say yeah it kind of matters and it kind of doesn't matter um at the end of the day
1046
1:46:36 --> 1:46:39
so you mentioned there that medicine is very cutthroat i agree with that
1047
1:46:40 --> 1:46:46
so from the day you arrive at medical school to the day you leave it you're terrified most men and
1048
1:46:46 --> 1:46:52
i didn't realize that i wasn't the only one until later and then i found out that everybody was
1049
1:46:52 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] it was i don't know what it is like now
1050
1:46:59 --> 1:47:05
there were terrifying professors everywhere and it's seen now looking at it i wonder whether that
1051
1:47:05 --> 1:47:13
was by design what do you think ish was was the so the fear that was generated amongst
1052
1:47:14 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]udent peers um was that done intentionally to create a mindset where um
1053
1:47:23 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]ioning me uh unquestioning it it depends on the vector that
1054
1:47:30 --> 1:47:39
you that you choose to find as this kind of agency if you if you say was this it is what it
1055
1:47:39 --> 1:47:45
is it's meant to be that means god made this so it was exactly the way it was it was supposed to
1056
1:47:45 --> 1:47:52
so it's not a good or bad thing it's it just is what it is so but if you say it was a dark entity
1057
1:47:52 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]e who knows but i think in general there is a increase in fear um in general
1058
1:47:59 --> 1:48:04
and fear only breeds more fear until there are kind of kind of breaks in the system fear breeds
1059
1:48:04 --> 1:48:10
more fear because we're intellectual beings um we think into loops fear is interlinked into your
1060
1:48:10 --> 1:48:17
the conscious vapors of thought fear fear is a is a is a tool it's it's it's kind of allowed you to
1061
1:48:17 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction] sex um and pray and understand the world so it's it's a tool
1062
1:48:23 --> 1:48:28
but taken too far you can get caught up in this in this fear and some people are so caught up that
1063
1:48:28 --> 1:48:31
they don't know they're just thinking all the time but it's so much thinking that they don't even
1064
1:48:31 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]ually think there's no congruent behavior so that's like kind of zombification
1065
1:48:36 --> 1:48:43
level um um a lack of agency due to a fragmentation so that's different i think we should get that um
1066
1:48:45 --> 1:48:52
you know that there but there's a spectrum of understanding and less thinking um that you can do
1067
1:48:52 --> 1:48:56
naturally which means by being a good person if you're if you're if you walk down the street
1068
1:48:56 --> 1:49:01
in your heart says do something and then you do it that's that's one burden off your chest that's
1069
1:49:01 --> 1:49:08
a karma gone down so you're thinking less because you just did what you need to do so um i just see
1070
1:49:08 --> 1:49:13
thinking like that i see thinking as satan i see thinking as an obstacle i see thinking as the ego
1071
1:49:13 --> 1:49:18
it's the self it's the veil over the infinite so once you see it and you have to sit on it you
1072
1:49:18 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] to pray um there's many ways to do it you luck um you know there's there's
1073
1:49:23 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] there's various pairs families there's various religions there's various ways of thinking
1074
1:49:28 --> 1:49:33
there's no there's no one route the um road to freedom is there's an infinite path and everyone
1075
1:49:33 --> 1:49:40
has their own path i'm not saying this but um yeah um it depends when you are when it's i think it's
1076
1:49:40 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ion to define kind of end persons and also who is answering the answer that
1077
1:49:47 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ion where where you want to put yourself be very logical with that with the actual question i
1078
1:49:53 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] so um each when you were talking then you mentioned road to freedom
1079
1:50:04 --> 1:50:10
so that that reminded me that i think it was jean poussard who wrote a trilogy and i think
1080
1:50:10 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] you read it i haven't no i haven't read it but what comes
1081
1:50:18 --> 1:50:26
to mind is judo krishna methi who um you as you guys can uh some guys might know and some other
1082
1:50:26 --> 1:50:33
guys uh on youtube might know this man is but anyway he had a famous he said um the road to
1083
1:50:34 --> 1:50:39
freedom is uh there's like loads of roads to freedom and i think the road to freedom is to
1084
1:50:39 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] nati type you know you can you could be free you can be born
1085
1:50:45 --> 1:50:49
knowing everything and be fine but some people it seems like in this in this day and age there's
1086
1:50:49 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] appreciate this amazing tool of in of intellect
1087
1:50:56 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ly what what it needs us to do and when we do that we we can transcend like ask why
1088
1:51:03 --> 1:51:10
can't we build the same architecture that we did in the past why are people rude all the time why
1089
1:51:10 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]e confused why are they doing something why am i seeing asthmatics
1090
1:51:15 --> 1:51:20
they're smoking yeah so it sounds like you're contradicting yourself now so you are saying
1091
1:51:20 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] a responsibility all of us to think what has gone wrong and to increase our
1092
1:51:26 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] said so but so that was not why i heard what you said
1093
1:51:33 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction] from it i can understand that yeah um this is because in
1094
1:51:39 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]and in the spiritual sense morality only lies with mankind and maybe angels
1095
1:51:47 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]ained before it's a construct of mankind so kind of good and bad you can
1096
1:51:56 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction] it so i said um you know it's power that you want and more goodness
1097
1:52:03 --> 1:52:07
you want more love and goodness because it makes you feel better and that's me so i said you know
1098
1:52:07 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction] of the rings we go wow the kind of orcs are the bad ones and the um and the and and the uh
1099
1:52:16 --> 1:52:20
kind of what's it called um and kind of frodo and whatnot they're they're they're the really good
1100
1:52:20 --> 1:52:28
ones right i mean i mean to the orcs no to the orcs they're the good ones so you have no right to
1101
1:52:28 --> 1:52:35
say uh this is good this is bad this is just it's still conditioning both in their mind think um
1102
1:52:35 --> 1:52:40
you know both in their mind think they're doing the right thing both in their mind think um that's
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how to live they both want to expand it's like a cancer it doesn't care for whether you think it's
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right or wrong it is gross so but it's a different vibrational frequency so i think in this realm
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1:52:53 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]s you more in the fear centers and the more pain
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um you know than others certain things like um walking in the forest being with family
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1:53:04 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction] song set of frequencies vibrate higher being loved and being kissed having no pain that's a nice
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thing the other thing the other extreme is fear so this is the suffering so like i said if you
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see as a tool then you can transcend the suffering and it takes while like i had to do lots of
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different things and that's you can say that's penance you can say that's um kind of spiritual
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growth you can say that's doing a marathon you know these people know um so you just have to
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1:53:32 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]and you through suffering there's a guy called jordan uh goldstein and he would be amazing
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on here next time and he left his job as a professor during the pandemic and he now um
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1:53:44 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]e this kind of spiritual growth through kind of sports and he understands suffering
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1:53:50 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]and suffering you have to understand fear you have to see what it is and
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then it becomes a different conversation then it becomes quite fun then life becomes quite fun you
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know the worldly matters is becomes a different becomes different uh a very different definition
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so you know i think we're going to see more people understanding this concept and um because it has
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to that's a natural uh movement of the universe that that's why this is the this is the third
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1:54:23 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction] came to me like i say i wrote but it's not it just came
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1:54:29 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction] see everything and it's oh we just we just going back into a
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little bit of a a joyful time hopefully for people who understand but there is work to be done yes
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oh my god there's people to be saved yeah i mean we need to fix this mess but everything everything
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will be okay at the same time well i'm not sure about that but anyway um so one day i was walking
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1:54:51 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]ation to get some petrol for the car but also for the for the mower
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and um so i walked in and as i walked into pay um i uh noticed um a headline in a newspaper which
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1:55:10 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] where you pay at the petrol station at the petrol station i go to
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and so and it said um so the headline was about squirrel burgers so i went in and uh the guy
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who i'd seen many times before never made a connection with him i don't know but this day
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1:55:34 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction] said um oh they they're trying to tell us now that squirrel burgers are good for us
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squirrel burgers and his answer was um so he came straight out with it the fact i'd said that to him
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he came out with i'm from sri lanka i know all about tyranny and we were big friends
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immediately i've met this guy many times before no connection but a massive human connection
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1:56:04 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction] saying about squirrel burgers no i think that's an amazing story and i think
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1:56:12 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction] i've been meeting more people randomly and i just get them i'm like oh there's
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1:56:17 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction] and the small talk is the big talk i'm like oh i just randomly on a walk
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1:56:22 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]aurant and it's like people have been put there and sometimes i you know i think i thank
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sarah myhill um i see her as like an angel um uh dr malik as an angel i see these individuals who
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come to me at the right time say the right thing and then leave and then i meet them around one
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1:56:38 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction] it's too divine of a timing i see everyone as like that
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i would also like to say that on a lovely note i've had an amazing time i should go it's 10 um
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uh but it's been a lovely conversation um and very happy to be on this again in the future
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but yeah thank you very much for having me ish very wonderful to have you here to share some
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1:57:07 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]ives on a passion provocateur so it's always good to provoke people with new
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thoughts so thank you ish thank you very much steven thank you for organizing and um we will
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1:57:20 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] to further conversations with you ish thank you
1147
1:57:24 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]even if there are no other questions we can we can finish early
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if you're going to any if there's any announcements people wish to make they're most welcome to do so
1149
1:57:38 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] this open but tom rodman has his telegram chat going so
1150
1:57:44 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]s i'll stop this recording and so there's a free
1151
1:57:48 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] a little chat uh but ish if you need to go then that's fine i didn't
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1:57:53 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]ually you had two and a half hours at your disposal so if you had a
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1:58:00 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction] uh wished to use the time no it's okay it's okay it's okay we have
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1:58:06 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction] many more conversations to be had there's no there's no
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1:58:11 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction] one and even if it is it's been a really good one so um
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i mean thank you for having me that it's been uh i feel very i feel very blessed to have said
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what i said uh with you guys so thank you very much yes so um so this recording will be viewed
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1:58:30 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]e around the world so and if i get any emails asking to be put in contact with you
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i'll forward them to you yeah you can you can if the medical questions remember i can't give
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any any kind of advice like that but i do do uh scientific consultations so if you go to
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generation grounded dot xyz um everything's there my story videos and basically i'm trying
1162
1:58:56 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]atform where i'm just teaching i'm just having fun just teaching so there's those
1163
1:59:00 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]uff on there i'm going to bring out some courses i'm going to do some videos i do
1164
1:59:04 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]uff on twitter if you want to learn about health freedom mental health my weird and
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wonderful theories on the infinite realm david bone anything you want to know i'm open and i do
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spaces randomly i don't see myself as like uh different to anyone else i i don't really care
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for a title i'm just here to learn so if you're interested in that um and i especially interested
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in mushrooms and cancer but also trauma work and things like that but anything i'm happy with
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anything then um if you would like to work one to one to one to one with me there's a little flower
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1:59:38 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction] can click that and there's a form and you can work with me
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uh but don't feel obliged to um and there's various books i've made but again don't feel
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kind of obliged to read them if it speaks to you then go for it um i'm open to any opinion
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who published your books could i ask you that me i published my books no one's no one's gonna
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take my books come on no one i like i i i try to uh but with the savings i made i um published my
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books and um i recently published a lovely i'm very proud of it it's a mushroom book i think it's
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2:00:18 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction] one um so if you're bored of covid and you want to just enjoy mushrooms
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2:00:24 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]and why it's one of the most potent medicines and why in the future you will
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2:00:30 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ually telling you this because it is going to have a lot of people
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then it's called [privacy contact redaction] tried i've scoured the web on chinese databases
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turkish databases around the world and compiled a medical textbook in a um in a way that's
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2:00:50 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]andable in a in a lovely victorian style uh book so if you would
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like to get that you support me even more because i get more of the money you can get that if you
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if you can't afford it then there's a pdf there's an uh there's an amazon version there's a kindle
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and i also do spaces about it and also video so don't feel obliged to buy but if you would like
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to that's there as well but yeah i my everything was on generation grounded um i i i thank god
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for everything i do so are you publishing books on behalf of um other people or not
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you don't have to do the shipping or the shipping at all
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what's your main book that you're publishing for your own company and why don't you and what
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2:01:31 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction] write um i've got other things i'm writing at the moment um printed out each
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there's a there's a printed company i'm working with um they messed up a bit but i say messed up
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but it was it was all good it worked out well and then use amazon as well because
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So my calling of the shops shops book. I get a profit of five pounds per book because it's a textbook so I get profit of five pounds.
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And it's not a number one bestseller. Let's put it that way.
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My online books I get a bit more but obviously people are going to pay less. My mushroom hard copy I get a good amount back because hopefully the kind of printing company have messed up so I get a good amount back.
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2:02:22 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction] of the profit back but it depends on where you live and the delivery and time.
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But you do get a lovely book.
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2:02:32 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction], I don't really care. The, the only truth but I get no profit.
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I don't like I give away my the conveyor I don't like in the charging money, but the world we live in I think we need to get over that kind of like headspace of kind of asking for money.
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I try and give good advice.
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And look, if you like my work, and you can't afford it but you have a house to share if I go on holiday, happy. I'm happy with that as well. I say, we need to move away from this like I need to pay this person to show them thank you if it's a retweet, happy, really
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happy. If it's a thank you, if it's not a thank you if you write a hate comment, I'm good with that as well so I don't care.
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I see everything as a thanks, but remember to think actually and support those, because it's not just me there's many people like Ahmed Malik, yourselves kind of cake, Dr.
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2:03:30 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]atforms, people who need vaccine injury help there's so many people that need help right now so just remember that they also exist and there's people that also have a voice so I'm here yes but there's other people so
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thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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All right, so, Stephen, what I will do, I will stop this recording.
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2:04:00 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]atform I've got other stuff that I can go and do usefully and then you can have a chat here with everybody don't don't have to go to the telegram chat. Okay.
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Yeah, very good. Thank you, Charles.
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Thank you for moderating tonight.
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Pleasure, and every night, and every night, Charles. Thank you.
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Thank you.
