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That's true. You need lawyers to get out of the matrix. That's true.
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Yeah. You need lawyers to buy a house or anything.
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Yeah. All right. So everybody,
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Welcome to today's discussion. Before I introduce Dr. Kirk Moore to you from Utah,
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I want to give you a quick update on what's happening with Reiner Fulmick,
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a true freedom warrior.
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And this information comes from the Inner Circle that at the last court hearing
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in Germany on the 20th of June, I'm reading this so that all of you are aware
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of what's happening of the corruption that's being imposed on Reiner Fulmick,
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who's currently in jail. At the last court hearing on the 20th of June,
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But Reiner Fulmick's attorneys were not present. Katja Wurmer is unwell and
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0:01:13 --> 0:01:[privacy contact redaction]oph Miserere, barrister, was not there for reasons unknown.
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with the idea of appointing Tobias Wiesenborn, who was a witness on behalf of Reiner.
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his attorneys had and was therefore not appropriate. Still, the court tried to
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the vicinity and therefore not available did they abandon their plan. So they called for a
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to shine light on this biased, corrupt court. The reporting on the trial by observers was that
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there was tension throughout the session during the court and there was a massive police presence.
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To a man, a German US lawyer who is fighting for freedom, truth, justice, ethics and the proper
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0:02:57 --> 0:03:[privacy contact redaction]ication of law. And that's why Stephen Frost started this group over three years ago. Stephen
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I'm Australasia's passion provocateur. I've been a lawyer and I've been a professional speaker for
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13 years, I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies for vaccine damage.
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I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company. We comprise lots of professions here and we're
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from all around the world. Many of us thought that vaccines were okay. Now, many of us proudly say,
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yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers. I count myself one of those. I am passionately anti-vax.
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And I say that I've interviewed numerous medical experts and every one of them confirms there has
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not been one proper safety and efficacy test on any vaccine ever. If any of you know of any,
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please put them in the chat. They do not exist. If this is your first time here, welcome and feel
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free to introduce yourself in the chat and where you're from. If you publish a news, there are a
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battle is only one of [privacy contact redaction] world war. Today, Kirk is going to be
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talking to us about the legal battlefield. Most of us understand the development of science and
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the science is never settled. This meeting runs for two and a half hours after which for those
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with the time Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting, Tom puts the links into the chat as
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you're able to join. We'll listen to our guest presenter, Kirk Moore, Dr Kirk Moore for as long
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Free speech is crucially important in our fight to preserve our human freedoms. If you're offended
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by anything, be offended. We're lovingly not interested. We reject the offence industry that
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requires nobody to say anything that may offend another and if you play the offence game, you're
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playing into the woke agenda which we here reject. We come with an attitude, a perspective of love,
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not fear. Fear is the opposite of love. Fear squashes you. Love on the other hand expands you.
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Fear robs you of your freedoms. These twice weekly meetings are not just talk-fest. An
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there was a reference to a book by William T Still called The New World Order published in 1990.
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I'm halfway through that book. It is most instructive if you want to know who they are.
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on the Rumble channel. And now welcome to our guest presenter, Dr Kirk Moore. We thank you so
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much for sharing your wisdom and your insights with us and I wish to give you some background
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to individuals who chose not to be vaccinated against COVID-19. He asks, isn't that what
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and too often increased unnecessary medical risks in return for dubious protections.
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The government's failure to conduct thorough testing on COVID vaccines and the near complete
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censorship of opposing views limited the ability of anyone to fully exercise informed consent. This
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is a violation of basic ethics by denying individuals the opportunity to make decisions
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Moore's actions were upholding the ethical doctrines of informed consent and do no harm to
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not be forced to receive one. Seeking to imprison a single father for doing nothing more than what
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exemption. The government in its case fakes concern over the destruction of actual vaccines.
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It's almost laughable considering that Switzerland has destroyed over 10 million doses of the
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emphasizes the healthcare providers obligation to act in the best interest of the patient.
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Kirk Moore's provision of vaccine cards without financial burden underscores Kirk's desire to
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facilitate patient autonomy and enable them to engage in society while doing no harm.
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The government prosecution for the government on April 24th this year has now filed a motion
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in limine to preclude a necessity defence. Can you believe that? Kirk will tell us about that.
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And the argument is that it wasn't necessary and the government is trying to say no there's nothing
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with us. So Kirk we are in your hands as they say in the classics.
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Hi Charles, Stephen and everybody here thanks for being here. My story I guess I'll just kind of go
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every other one but a lot of us scared worried didn't know what was going on.
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I didn't have the time to research it and just kind of trusted a lot of everything that we were
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I went home from work after having done surgery it was a Tuesday. I heard some more reports about
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things as you mentioned in that bio in that introduction I'm a single dad raising two kids
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what was going on hadn't had the time to research it. I'm not a primary care doc I'm a plastic
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surgeon so I do cosmetics so it's now family practice and internal medicine type of
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discussions were far outside of my boundaries but on March 17th I just called up my office manager
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and said hey let's close the office have one person in the office just to answer phones we'll
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be there for our patients but until this we figure out more about what's going on.
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I don't want to expose anybody to any undue germs. Within the state of Utah was also
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entertaining there had already been some lockdowns in some of the states and some
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areas across the country I think Italy was quote unquote burning and so there was just all this
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what to believe but within a week I think the state of Utah the following Monday which would
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don't know what the definition of a non-essential business is but they defined them and mine was
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one of them but by that time I had had enough time to sit here at my same laptop that I'm talking
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everybody else on and research and learn and listen to people that were not fully censored
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yet and kind of came to the conclusion essentially that this was just nothing but just a fake
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fear-mongering tactic and you know scare technique to get everybody to do what the
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government wanted to do and so from that point forward I think within that same week
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that wanted them there's a I mean for the people from the United States we have a you know
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Walgreens that I used to write all my prescriptions for not a lot of them but a lot of them for my
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could get for like I said friends family patients anybody and just that kind of started me down this
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I don't remember the exact date or time but at some point people started talking about having a
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back in 1989 and so I've had this hesitation to vaccines my kids are not vaccinated and back in the
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mid-2000s when our kids were born it wasn't that big a deal you could just go in there tell your
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nothing you know didn't make any waves and boy how's that changed and so when all of this was
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you know the McCullough protocol came out the FLCCC published their protocols which were you know
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woodwork their friends and family were calling me nobody else would treat them they were scared
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to go to the hospital they didn't want treatment you know remdesivir you know run death is near
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is on the you know is is out there and people hearing all these horror stories and so I you
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anything about vitamin c I didn't know anything about ICU treatments and the book that he'd written
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about it and you know it's all new to me and acid hill cysteine vitamin d you know all of the
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over-the-counter medications gladiators elenco was a huge influence on me and so I just kind of kept
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following all this then the rumors come out I don't know end of that year you know I don't know
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Octoberish that the vaccine was on the you know this operation work speed had been successful and
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they had a new vaccine available for a virus that has been endemic in our
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in humanity since beginning of time and you know all of a sudden they've solved it and they've
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been able to do this with some sort of new you know new technology anyway and it's just it was
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crazy to me to think that that's what was going on and then you know one thing after another
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AstraZeneca trial I got to know her there's some other docs that I know here locally that have
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actually been vaccine injured themselves and just me I as as plastic surgeons we tend to kind of be
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in our own little world and we don't have a lot of insular activity with other physicians so we
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don't have a lot of contact with them but just me knowing a few of them that had been vaccine injured
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again nobody's allowed to say anything everybody's getting censored people getting taken offline you
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go back to the July the boy I can't remember her name but on the Supreme Court steps all those
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I realized that I knew that there was corruption in our government I knew that there we had been
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lied to I knew that there were things going on everybody had heard the rumors about JFK's
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assassination and you know were we involved were we not you know everybody hears and you start
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seeing about you know hearing things about the you know just just things that happened in our history
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and you realize that you know it how much of this was really true and how much wasn't did we really
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we don't know the story behind that we actually we do know the story behind that and it's being
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hidden from us and it's not in the history books you know the the victor to the victor go to spoils
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really happened in World War II what was the [privacy contact redaction] opens up all of
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these you know for lack of a better term rabbit holes and you end up going down them and you end
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up kind of reading about them and reading things that were actually in the public realm at the time
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there that's just not that doesn't jive with what with what you're reading now and what you're
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hearing I mean I remember medical school being taught that by the way I was in the army and I
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thought those viruses don't you know you don't get an you know you don't get antibodies built to
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what it is now it's like in order to find out whether you've been exposed we have to check your
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antibodies what you know I mean it's just kind of like it's whatever kind of fits the narrative
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and it's really caused me to kind of open up and be a lot more open-minded
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about what I'm being told.
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It's caused me to kind of really look at things.
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We mentioned this, I think at the beginning here
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where anything that I get told,
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out of rote, I just don't believe it
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until I can kind of confirm it myself.
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So come March, April, May of 2021,
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vaccines are now being, they're mandated,
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while they're being, they're mandatory businesses,
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the government is kind of turfing the job to the businesses
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to make them mandate it so that it doesn't look like
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our government is kind of doing it,
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And with my situation with what I knew about vaccines,
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similar to what we talked about again earlier,
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none of them are safe,
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evaluation, true safety or efficacy evaluation.
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And this one was here to me was no different.
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So I signed up, we're in a pandemic, right?
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And everybody needs a vaccine
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and we don't have enough places to sign up
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And so I signed up to be a vaccine clinic
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and family coming in.
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as much as we could.
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We don't know what's in it.
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We didn't know what was in it.
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that's all folded up that says intentionally left blank
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on the front and back.
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We don't know what the product is.
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We don't know what's in it.
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Obviously this mRNA jab was developed in nine months.
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And prior to that, I mean, there's a lot to this story.
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I mean, all of this stuff back in early 21 or late 20,
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early 21, there were studies that were out there
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that you could find, you can't find them anymore online
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that talked about the use of mRNA in animals
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and none of the animals ever survived.
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They either died from re-exposure
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or they died from the treatment itself,
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ferrets, rats, chimpanzees, everybody.
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So, I was certainly not sold on the mRNA technology
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and I certainly wasn't sold on the spike protein
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or whatever it is that they claim that is in there.
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And again, this is, we don't know what's in it.
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So it's kind of hard to evaluate the reality of this.
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Over the course of 2020 and into early 2021,
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I probably treated 800 patients for COVID.
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And then subsequent to that,
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and provided full informed consent
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None of my patients died.
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None of them were charged the dime.
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We took no money.
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of whatever they saw fit.
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We recommended $50, but it certainly was no demand
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and we certainly didn't benefit from it.
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It wasn't anything that I was related to
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other than I went to a few other meetings.
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And now we're, I mean, I was indicted
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along with three other co-conspirators,
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back in January of 23, so 18 months ago.
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and continuances in the trial.
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And now we're scheduled for trial on January 15th of 2025.
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We had a motion that you mentioned in that Bible
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that bio again, which is a motion in limine
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which means outside of the purview of the jury,
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which is pretty obvious
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because it's done prior to even jury selection.
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But the government is trying to preclude a necessity defense.
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A necessity defense is typically a defense
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specific threat that required immediate action,
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The harm that was potentially caused by my criminal act
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that was already being caused.
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or contributed to kind of making that be a problem
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so that then I can solve the problem.
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That's typically what our government does, right?
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So that's where we are.
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another response from them,
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but no hearing or sorry, no ruling from the judge as of yet.
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And I believe there's gonna be a motion here
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but I don't know if that's been finalized yet or not.
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So that's kind of my story in a nutshell.
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and I'm not trying to be obtuse in anything
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in terms of my answers,
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in terms of what happened in my office.
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Thank you, Kirk, for sharing that story.
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as you know, before we get to Steven
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What are your thoughts on why
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and I'm thinking of the 80-20 rule, the Pareto principle.
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20% of people do extraordinary things.
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Why do you think that only a tiny proportion
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The answers that we've heard in these meetings, of course,
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But with all the evidence that has come out,
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What's your thinking on that?
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You know, I ask myself that question,
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that are in their late 50s, 60s, 70s
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probably are a little bit more open to being skeptical.
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I think the education that we had
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was probably a little bit more foundational
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I think the younger the docs are,
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the more they're taught based upon algorithm methods
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and they're more or less just kind of technicians
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and they're taught to just look at a problem
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and treat it by based upon what's in front of them,
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based upon what's on a sheet that's there already.
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Again, my opinion, I have no data
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to support that necessarily, but I just,
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I don't think, I'm not the smartest guy out there.
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I went to medical school, I got my MD degree,
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I did all the things that a lot of other friends
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I got my kids' education to kind of contribute to
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I don't care whether they're dying
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or I'm hurting them or I'm maiming them,
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I don't get it.
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I mentioned this earlier where in the mid 2000s
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when my daughter was born and we went in and said,
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hey, we wanna hold off on vaccines,
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the pediatricians, most of them, all of them,
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we never got kicked out of an office saying,
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hey, get out of here, I'm not gonna treat you.
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I think that there's just dogma and it's just taken foot.
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Or it's just kind of now determined
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pediatricians bonuses based upon the percentage
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of their kids that are vaccinated.
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So there's a financial incentive
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and it might be something that these docs
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and they've been taught and told.
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And we had maybe 15 minutes of vaccine education
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back in the late 80s, early 90s.
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And they're safe and effective, here you are.
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But we had seven of them.
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Kirk, I've checked that in Australia
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with two recent graduates from medical school
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and it's still the same in Australia
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that it's two hours max on vaccines
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in six years of education.
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Well, Kerry Mullis said it in one of his interviews
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HIV is caused by the HIV virus.
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well, where's the article and where's the reference
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that says this?
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And that's what started him down this road too.
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of what you're told or what you read or what you've seen
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or what you've heard,
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a little bit more critically and realize that,
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hey, maybe what we were told or what we had
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or what we've been taught or everything,
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really that doesn't apply, let me find out.
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And that's where I went.
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I mean, I've looked at the 1919 Spanish flu.
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Was it really a Spanish flu?
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No, it started in, I'll probably get the name wrong,
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is where the main,
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and we were also giving a meningitis vaccine at the time
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and we were giving high dose aspirin.
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When we were talking about,
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they were giving 1600 to 2000 milligrams of aspirin.
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and autopsy showing that.
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So it's, but none of that was published.
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but I'm sorry, Charles, I have no idea why.
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I've lost friends.
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I don't talk to any of my classmates from medical school
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or graduated from medical school with 120 other kids,
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our kids, guys, and I don't keep in touch
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with any of them now.
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So it's-
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Well, that's a pretty good answer.
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and you've got the next 15 minutes.
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Yeah, sorry about that.
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So, yeah.
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So the medical school bit, Kirk, I share the same problem.
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I don't speak to any of the medical,
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not that I won't talk to them,
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successively calling them more and more out.
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at medical school, they didn't even reply privately.
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Nevermind the group.
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I called them all out in a group.
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because they were trying to arrange a reunion,
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unluckily for them.
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And so I really, I oscillate between
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hey, we have to be kind.
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I do agree we, as human beings, need to be kind.
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But the kindness kind of wears a bit thin
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what was the right thing to do.
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You were not a GP.
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And yet you realized that you had to become a GP
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retaining at all time your autonomy.
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their responsibility was in a pandemic,
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Clearly, in varying degrees.
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So I was looking for someone like you,
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to put it in terms of a 20-year-old would understand
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or a 30-year-old.
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And here you are and good.
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It's just, it nearly made me cry when you said
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that you didn't accept any payments.
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but you were not taking any payments
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Charles, can I finish my questions?
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Can you give me 10 minutes of my time back
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after I've had something to eat,
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because I've got something here to eat.
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Didn't quite manage to get my meal before the program.
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Not that that's important,
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about what I want to say on this call, Kirk,
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because I think you are very important.
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You've shown all doctors what they damn well
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in the UK, they're completely missing the point,
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and it's absolutely outrageous,
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and I've got no mercy for them.
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Well, I do feel that I should be kind,
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but it's really testing me.
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You too were shocked in many, many different ways,
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I appreciate that, thank you.
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Thank you for doing the right thing.
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So, Charles, are you there?
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Yep, I'm here.
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Yes, absolutely.
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I've only used the proper five minutes.
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Yep, done.
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All right, Daria, then Jerry.
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So, doctor, doctor.
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Go, Daria.
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Retire, doctor.
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Hello, hi.
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Dr. Moore, God bless you.
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I'm a retired neurosurgeon,
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and I had to retire 10 years ago
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because I had neuropraxia in my hands
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and couldn't operate anymore.
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So I pretty much dodged the whole situation
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that you found yourself in.
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And what I wanted to ask you are two things.
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Number one, do you think that you will return
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maybe in an office setting or something like that?
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I really do.
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of Physicians and Surgeons, AAPS,
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So there's been a lot of cases helping doctors
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with licensure issues for years
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and Schampere review and that type of thing.
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But thank you and God bless you for your courage
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So thank you for taking those bullets.
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God bless you.
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Well, Daria, so the first,
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I'm still practicing.
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It's been a domino effect.
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0:38:26 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction] my hospital privileges
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because I told the hospital to shove it
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when they made me wear a mask.
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Losing my hospital privileges
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0:38:34 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction] domino that fell.
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By losing my hospital privileges,
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0:38:39 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction] certification.
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0:38:44 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction] my accreditation
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to my surgical facility
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because I didn't have hospital privileges
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and couldn't get board certified.
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0:38:54 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction]ill operate.
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0:38:57 --> 0:38:[privacy contact redaction] operate in my own,
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0:38:59 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]
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It's just not accredited anymore per se
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from QuadASF or AAAHC,
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0:39:07 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction]
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And so it's been a trial.
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I miss the surgery side of it.
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Like I said, I'm still operating.
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0:39:19 --> 0:39:21
It's been a huge,
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0:39:21 --> 0:39:24
I've lost at least 50%, if not more of my income
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0:39:25 --> 0:39:30
from not necessarily the bad press, I don't think,
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0:39:30 --> 0:39:34
as much as it's been just a loss of my ability
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to kind of focus and to kind of continue to do the things
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that I used to do with the energy and vigor
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that I had when I was doing it.
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Again, I'm not old, I'm 59.
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I really enjoy doing it.
563
0:39:46 --> 0:39:[privacy contact redaction] augmentations
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and tummy tucks and everything else
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in terms of what I do.
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And I think I provide a very nice service
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and very safe environment to do that.
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But it's been a struggle.
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And I'm sorry, Daria,
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0:40:04 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ion that you asked?
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Hold on, yeah.
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0:40:11 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction]ion was,
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are you a member of the...
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Associated with American Physicians and Surgeons,
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the AAPS?
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I did join them back in 2020.
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I'm not sure that my membership,
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0:40:29 --> 0:40:30
again, I've had to kind of pare down
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0:40:30 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction] anything.
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I don't have cable TV anymore.
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I've just had to significantly cut all my expenses.
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0:40:41 --> 0:40:44
I'm not trying to kind of like play a tiny little violin
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0:40:44 --> 0:40:45
for everybody in here,
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0:40:46 --> 0:40:50
and so if I didn't set it up for auto renew,
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0:40:50 --> 0:40:53
then I may not be a current member,
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but I appreciate you reminding me of that.
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0:40:55 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction] see where I'm at,
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0:40:57 --> 0:40:[privacy contact redaction] of,
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it's Andrew Shafley, right?
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0:41:03 --> 0:41:05
Yeah, Andrew Shafley.
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There's other attorneys that work with him,
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0:41:09 --> 0:41:10
but you know what I'll do?
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I'll go ahead and contact Jeremy Snavely.
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He's the administrative manager there at the AAPS
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0:41:17 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction] you to see if,
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A, you're still a member,
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and B, if maybe they can let you know
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0:41:26 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction]ance they could offer you from a legal standpoint.
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Okay, well, I appreciate that.
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Thank you, Daria.
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And Daria, I'd also talk to Jeremy about the fact that
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0:41:38 --> 0:41:[privacy contact redaction]ors are being attacked
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like Kirk, that their membership may well,
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could easily be, you know, waived.
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So you might raise that with Jeremy.
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Yeah, Daria, it'd be great if you could introduce
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them to Kirk, I think.
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Well, yeah, since Kirk was a member already,
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0:41:59 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction] is laxed at the moment,
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0:42:04 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction] Jeremy,
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0:42:06 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction], I'm gonna text him right now,
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and ask him to reach out to you
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0:42:10 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction]ivated or,
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if you're still activated and what the situation is.
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Okay, thank you so much.
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God bless you again.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Daria, well said.
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Now, Jerry goes next, but I think Peter Underwood,
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what happens with Zoom these days, so everybody knows,
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if you put your hand up and then you make a noise
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like you fart loudly, he puts your hand down.
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So, Peter, you must have farted.
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So I think Peter, I think you're after Jerry
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and before Albert, but anyway, Jerry, you next.
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Thanks, Charles.
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Thank you, yeah, I lost the internet.
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0:42:52 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction], in South Africa here,
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0:42:54 --> 0:42:[privacy contact redaction] an intermittent service,
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something to do with undersea cables somewhere or another.
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0:43:00 --> 0:43:03
Oh yeah, absolutely, nothing to do with the corruption
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0:43:03 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]em.
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Jerry, our favorite Irishman, Kirk.
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Hi, Kirk, how are you?
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Nice to hear, I've been following your case
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for quite some time.
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Unlike you, I'm relatively unknown,
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0:43:22 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]or
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0:43:24 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]er
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for refusal to give the vaccine three and a half years ago.
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0:43:32 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction]ice after 40 years as a GP,
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suspended illegally, temporarily, mind you,
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for three and a half years, with the loss of all income.
644
0:43:46 --> 0:43:[privacy contact redaction] find it fascinating that you as a plastic surgeon
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should sign up to give as a vaccine clinic.
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And I know that you say you treated 800 patients
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0:44:03 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction] treated thousands of patients for COVID,
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0:44:11 --> 0:44:15
never diagnosed by me because I never did a PCR
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0:44:15 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]
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0:44:17 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ed the PCR as a legitimate means
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to diagnose COVID with the result
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0:44:25 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ly as I had done
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for the 40 previous years, the 40 previous winters.
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0:44:31 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ually examined every patient.
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I had sent nobody home to get pneumonitis or pneumonia.
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I had given them all as you mentioned,
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steroids, antibiotics, bronchodilators,
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0:44:46 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]orants, or perhaps sent for X-ray.
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0:44:49 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]ed percent success rate
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0:44:53 --> 0:44:[privacy contact redaction]oxychloroquine.
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0:44:59 --> 0:45:03
It's funny, your timeline very much resonates with me
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because being Irish, I was very aware on the 17th of March
663
0:45:07 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction] Patrick's Day parade.
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And I was very, very aware of what was going on.
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So as I say, it's funny that you should bring in
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the sort of Irish element of it.
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0:45:18 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]ion fundamentally is,
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why did you sign up to get, to give the vaccine
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if you felt that there was need for it?
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Did you or anybody in your clinic
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0:45:31 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]er the vaccine?
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0:45:33 --> 0:45:35
And you say you didn't take any money,
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but I know in Ireland, we were paid by the government
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0:45:39 --> 0:45:[privacy contact redaction]ually give the vaccine at 60 euros a go,
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as opposed to 18 euros ago for the flu vaccine.
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0:45:49 --> 0:45:53
So I'm just wondering, did your clinic administer,
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A, administer the vaccine and B, did they get money
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0:45:58 --> 0:46:03
quite apart from the cash that they may have offered,
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0:46:03 --> 0:46:05
but from the government?
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0:46:06 --> 0:46:10
So Jerry, thank you for that.
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0:46:12 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]ory with that.
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0:46:14 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]oxychloroquine
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0:46:16 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]in is because I didn't have 40 years
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of experience as a primary care doc,
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0:46:22 --> 0:46:24
taking care of flu symptoms.
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And so it was, what I was learning about at the time,
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COVID and everything else was, hey, early treatment,
688
0:46:33 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]eroids,
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early treatment with antibiotics,
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0:46:37 --> 0:46:[privacy contact redaction]in, hydroxychloroquine.
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I'd had some experience with hydroxychloroquine
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as an anti-malarial drug three times going to Africa,
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and I knew how safe it was.
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So I was not opposed to treating it.
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And all the reports that I'd gotten and all the studies,
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0:46:57 --> 0:46:59
well, the studies that I was reading,
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even some of the COVID-[privacy contact redaction]udies
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that we're publishing, either randomized or case studies
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0:47:06 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]in,
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0:47:08 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction], I went down that route.
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But I did not, I don't bill insurance.
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So I didn't have the capacity to bill insurance.
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0:47:19 --> 0:47:23
So yes, the primary care offices and pediatrics offices
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had the ability to bill insurance when a patient came in
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0:47:27 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ered a vaccine.
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0:47:29 --> 0:47:[privacy contact redaction]ration fee for the vaccine.
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I don't have the capacity to do that.
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0:47:39 --> 0:47:40
I never did.
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I don't bill insurance.
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0:47:41 --> 0:47:43
I don't have the capacity to do that.
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0:47:43 --> 0:47:44
I never did.
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I don't bill insurance.
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0:47:46 --> 0:47:51
And so therefore I never got paid for any administration fee.
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0:47:51 --> 0:47:56
The COVID vaccine that we received from the state of Utah
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was also free and provided to us.
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0:47:58 --> 0:48:01
All we had to do was either send an email or call in
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0:48:01 --> 0:48:03
and it would get delivered to us.
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0:48:04 --> 0:48:07
No, my question is, did you or your staff
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0:48:07 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]er the vaccine to any patients at any time?
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0:48:11 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ion, Jerry,
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0:48:15 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ly.
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I'll take that as an affirmative.
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0:48:19 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] our patients what they asked for
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0:48:23 --> 0:48:25
after full informed consent.
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0:48:25 --> 0:48:26
And that's pretty cool.
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0:48:26 --> 0:48:28
You see, this is an interesting concept.
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0:48:28 --> 0:48:31
The idea that, and Charles spoke about it,
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doing what patients ask.
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0:48:33 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction] spent my life refusing
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to do what patients ask.
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There's no imperative in medicine
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0:48:38 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]
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0:48:41 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]or are trained
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to do what is right, irrespective.
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0:48:45 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]e
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0:48:48 --> 0:48:49
who were looking for sedatives,
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0:48:49 --> 0:48:51
who were looking for hypnotics, sleeping tablets,
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0:48:51 --> 0:48:54
sedatives, Valium, Diazepam.
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0:48:54 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]e
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0:48:56 --> 0:48:[privacy contact redaction]ions.
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0:48:58 --> 0:49:02
My life over 40 years was half, well not half,
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0:49:02 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ually spent
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0:49:04 --> 0:49:07
refusing to do what patients asked or required.
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0:49:08 --> 0:49:10
There's absolutely no imperative
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0:49:10 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ors do.
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0:49:13 --> 0:49:16
And so too with you, I've absolutely no doubt
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0:49:16 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]ic surgeon that are a cosmetic surgeon
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that you don't do what the patient asks.
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0:49:22 --> 0:49:23
If somebody came in and said,
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0:49:23 --> 0:49:28
I want something done and you felt as a professional
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0:49:28 --> 0:49:31
that would not suit you or that would not be
752
0:49:31 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] and you'd be coming back
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0:49:33 --> 0:49:35
in six months time thinking I'm not happy with that.
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0:49:35 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction] no doubt that you would be refusing to do it.
755
0:49:38 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]or does.
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0:49:40 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]or requires
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0:49:42 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]
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0:49:46 --> 0:49:48
Well, again, doing what they asked
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0:49:48 --> 0:49:[privacy contact redaction]e coming in that are purposely there
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0:49:54 --> 0:49:56
potentially for not, you know,
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0:49:56 --> 0:49:58
because of the reasons that they knew
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0:49:58 --> 0:50:00
what it was that was going on,
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where there was an agreement on our side
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0:50:02 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] them a shot that they wanted
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or a shot that they didn't want.
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0:50:07 --> 0:50:10
So it was certainly a discussion, you know,
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as a physician, you're correct.
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You're a professional, you have some knowledge
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that your patients don't have
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and you impart that knowledge to them.
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And whether they want to take it or not is up to them.
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0:50:24 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]an
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that we came to with after, you know,
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mutual discussion about what the risks and benefits were
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0:50:35 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction] for them.
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Well, in which case you should never have given
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any of the vaccines because there was absolutely no benefits
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0:50:45 --> 0:50:46
at that point in time.
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0:50:46 --> 0:50:49
So who said I did give it?
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Well, you didn't say you didn't.
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0:50:52 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction], that's new to hear there.
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0:50:53 --> 0:50:55
That's new to hear there.
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0:50:56 --> 0:50:[privacy contact redaction]ually cross examine you
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0:50:59 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] such that.
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0:51:02 --> 0:51:06
But Jerry, so Kirk did say, he is our guest.
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0:51:06 --> 0:51:09
So he did say that he had to be careful
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0:51:09 --> 0:51:10
how he answered that.
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Now I took that to mean that he had to be careful
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0:51:13 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ment.
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0:51:16 --> 0:51:21
Sorry, Stephen, I won't interrupt your questioning
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0:51:22 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ion with the patient.
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0:51:24 --> 0:51:27
And I appreciate if you don't interrupt my,
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I as a GP, as a doctor 47 years and as a GP of 40 years
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0:51:32 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction]ive that I've got a right to
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if you don't mind, Stephen.
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And I totally appreciate Kirk's view
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that he doesn't want to say certain things.
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0:51:43 --> 0:51:45
And I accepted that.
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0:51:45 --> 0:51:49
But the point really is, I just find it fascinating
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that somebody would go from being a cosmetic surgeon
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0:51:52 --> 0:51:[privacy contact redaction] decided to become a GP
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or a GP decided overnight to become a radiologist.
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0:52:00 --> 0:52:02
It doesn't just seem practical.
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0:52:02 --> 0:52:06
And I suppose I'm asking, why did Kirk do it?
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0:52:06 --> 0:52:08
If Kirk did it fundamentally not,
806
0:52:08 --> 0:52:11
or rather to pretend to give vaccines
807
0:52:11 --> 0:52:14
and give out vaccine certs, I absolutely applaud him.
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0:52:14 --> 0:52:17
But if there was a motivation to get involved
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0:52:17 --> 0:52:21
in the vaccine business at that point in time,
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0:52:22 --> 0:52:24
he does say he didn't really understand what was going on.
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I think, look, if Kirk chooses to come before this group
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0:52:28 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]ors for COVID ethics,
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0:52:34 --> 0:52:38
and as Charles says, nobody, you know,
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0:52:38 --> 0:52:41
we're not in the offense business.
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0:52:41 --> 0:52:44
If you want, if he wants to be offended by my questioning,
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0:52:44 --> 0:52:45
that's fine.
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0:52:45 --> 0:52:50
But overall, I'm just fascinated that he made that choice
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0:52:50 --> 0:52:[privacy contact redaction]y and be accepted on as a vaccine clinic.
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0:52:55 --> 0:53:00
And I, on the other hand, had no choice.
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0:53:00 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ruck off because as a GP,
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0:53:03 --> 0:53:05
I was obliged to give it.
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I was mandated to give it.
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0:53:06 --> 0:53:09
And when I refused to give it, I lost my income.
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0:53:09 --> 0:53:11
Now, admittedly, I was at a different stage
825
0:53:11 --> 0:53:16
because I'm pretty much 20 years older than Kirk.
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But it's just something that I feel
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0:53:19 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ion in this format.
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Good. Thank you, Kirk.
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Thanks, Jerry.
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0:53:26 --> 0:53:28
Hey, thanks, Jerry.
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0:53:28 --> 0:53:32
Okay, Al, we'll go to Peter Underwood first
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because he had his hand up, then Albert.
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Thank you, Charles.
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Blessings to you, Kirk.
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You're probably 1% or so of the moral ethics
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0:53:48 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]ood out
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0:53:51 --> 0:53:[privacy contact redaction]and by you.
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Now, my question is probably addressed to you,
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but also the others in the group here.
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And it's to do with my diagnosis as being bipolar.
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0:54:06 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction]ory, I had a yachting accident.
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I'm a yachtsman, lifelong yachtsman.
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And I had a yachting accident in late 1990.
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And I was hospitalized about a month later,
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0:54:24 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] now I know as PTSD,
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0:54:29 --> 0:54:[privacy contact redaction] at the hospital at the time
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diagnosed me as bipolar.
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And I was put on lithium for five years until 95.
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And I kicked that because it wasn't making me feel
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very well at all.
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And I did nothing then until I came to South Africa in 1999.
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And I was okay and I was fine here in South Africa.
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I had to go back to UK in 2009.
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And I had an episode, almost a repeat of the 1990 trauma.
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0:55:15 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction], Dr. Cox in...
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What's the question, Peter?
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0:55:21 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction]ion is, the question is,
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what does Kirk know or do anybody else know
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0:55:29 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] that I now believe
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0:55:33 --> 0:55:[privacy contact redaction] called bipolar?
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Because I read Peter Reagan's book,
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COVID Predators, We Are the Prey, page 286, 287.
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He identified respirodone as being a lethal drug
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that was invented by a well-known doctor.
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It's described in his book.
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And I was put on respirodone in 2009
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until I came back to South Africa here.
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And well, until I read Peter's, Reagan's book.
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And I wanted to ask anyone, is this condition bipolar?
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Actually a real thing?
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Peter Reagan says it isn't.
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0:56:28 --> 0:56:30
Well, we've got a, we look like,
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0:56:30 --> 0:56:34
it looks like we've got a real human being here in Kirkmore,
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but apparently he's a plastic human being.
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0:56:36 --> 0:56:[privacy contact redaction]ic surgeon.
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So Peter, there you are.
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Like, before you answer that,
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I will quote John Rappaport,
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of whom I'm a big fan, had been for 20 years.
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And he says, Peter,
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So this whole, so I'm certainly in support of that,
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but Kirk, if you don't feel qualified to answer,
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0:57:02 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction] it.
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Peter, I appreciate you asking me,
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0:57:07 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]epped outside of my zone
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0:57:09 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ic surgeon to a primary care doc for a few years,
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you know, speaking about things about psychiatry
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is well outside of my purview, I'm sorry.
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0:57:21 --> 0:57:26
But I tend to agree with Charles or Peter,
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or Rappaport about the diagnosis
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0:57:32 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ually make diagnoses
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0:57:37 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]ess and the accuracy or efficiency
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of our ability to do that.
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Yep, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Kirk.
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Thank you, Peter.
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Albert, Kirk, I'm sure you've heard about Albert,
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haven't you?
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0:57:52 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction], I think Albert and I have actually communicated
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either on the phone or via email
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0:57:58 --> 0:57:[privacy contact redaction]
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Albert, good to see you.
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It's good to see you too, Dr. Moore.
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Man, you know, I wrote in the comments,
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the armor of God, and you literally like picked up
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0:58:12 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction] people
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as far as I'm concerned.
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With that said, you said that you got 2,000 Vaxes.
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0:58:25 --> 0:58:30
2,000 Vaxes, were they all Moderna's or Pfizer's or combos?
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No, it was combination of Johnson and Johnson,
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Pfizer, Moderna, and then some pediatric dosing
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and everything else.
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0:58:40 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ures up in the comments.
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I hope you download them, but I've since made
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0:58:47 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]s based on the HiWire
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and ICANN's FOIA data, because in there,
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0:58:55 --> 0:58:[privacy contact redaction]ual shipments
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and how many they shipped per lot.
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0:59:01 --> 0:59:04
And what was really good is that Pfizer
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0:59:04 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] provider names with zip codes in cities.
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Moderna didn't give the provider names,
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0:59:12 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction] zip codes.
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0:59:14 --> 0:59:18
So I took it upon myself, as you were talking,
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0:59:18 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]e of a,
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0:59:22 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]ease do not tell me if this is you or not,
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but from Midvale, Utah, a facility called
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0:59:31 --> 0:59:[privacy contact redaction]itute that received
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these certain Pfizer lots, FL0007 and FL8095.
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0:59:44 --> 0:59:47
And the thing about it is, just as an example,
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did you in hindsight, have you gone back
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to see how toxic, whatever lots they gave you,
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0:59:55 --> 0:59:58
how toxic they are today?
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Because one thing for sure is that VAERS
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throttles purposefully delays the publication of reports.
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1:00:06 --> 1:00:09
So even now today, supposed new reports
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1:00:09 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]ems are for vax dates
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1:00:13 --> 1:00:15
in 2021 and 2022.
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1:00:15 --> 1:00:19
So it's just piling on, the toxicity seems to just
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1:00:19 --> 1:00:23
keep piling on to these lot numbers.
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1:00:23 --> 1:00:27
And I can't imagine, I mean, I have to imagine
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1:00:27 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]rengthen your case if the lots
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1:00:31 --> 1:00:36
that were given to you, you could actually say,
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1:00:36 --> 1:00:40
look, man, they're toxic, they're more toxic,
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1:00:40 --> 1:00:44
whatever, however they stack up against the other data
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1:00:44 --> 1:00:45
for the other lots.
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1:00:45 --> 1:00:49
But I offer that information to you,
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1:00:49 --> 1:00:53
whether your attorney or your team has looked,
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1:00:53 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction]ively, retroactively looked at those lots
951
1:00:57 --> 1:00:[privacy contact redaction] you to see how toxic they are.
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1:00:59 --> 1:01:02
I'd really love to help you in any way I can.
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1:01:02 --> 1:01:06
But thank you and God bless you, Dr. Moore.
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1:01:06 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]a.
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You're the kind of guy I wanna fight with.
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1:01:11 --> 1:01:12
Thank you.
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1:01:13 --> 1:01:18
Well, Albert, I will tell you that when the website,
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1:01:18 --> 1:01:22
how bad is my batch came out, I was extremely interested
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1:01:22 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction],
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1:01:26 --> 1:01:30
but it was really pretty difficult for us to do that.
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Like you said, because the data was so sparse
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1:01:34 --> 1:01:38
and difficult to find, but I will tell you,
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1:01:38 --> 1:01:39
and I don't know what the numbers were
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1:01:39 --> 1:01:40
off the top of my head right now,
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1:01:40 --> 1:01:43
but I will tell you that some of the ones that I saw
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1:01:43 --> 1:01:48
on how bad is my batch in terms of the double digits,
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1:01:48 --> 1:01:[privacy contact redaction]e digits in morbidity and mortality numbers
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1:01:51 --> 1:01:52
compared to some of the other batches
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1:01:52 --> 1:01:54
were definitely some of the batches
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1:01:54 --> 1:01:57
that we had received in our office.
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1:01:57 --> 1:01:58
Awesome, yeah.
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1:01:58 --> 1:02:01
God bless Craig Party Cooper.
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1:02:01 --> 1:02:03
How bad is my batch?
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1:02:04 --> 1:02:06
He's the Godfather, but that's a black cup of coffee.
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1:02:06 --> 1:02:08
Mine's a caramel macchiato.
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1:02:09 --> 1:02:10
Mine's an interactive dashboard.
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1:02:10 --> 1:02:13
His is a B lookup, there is no comparison.
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1:02:13 --> 1:02:15
I would love to sit down with you and go over that
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1:02:15 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction] of batch numbers
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1:02:19 --> 1:02:20
and everything else that we had
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1:02:20 --> 1:02:23
and go through that with you and come up with
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1:02:23 --> 1:02:28
kind of a very nice spreadsheet or information
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1:02:28 --> 1:02:30
in terms of being able to present all that
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1:02:30 --> 1:02:32
in terms of a nice data file.
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1:02:32 --> 1:02:32
Thank you.
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1:02:32 --> 1:02:33
Yeah, right on.
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1:02:33 --> 1:02:35
I'm here for you anytime.
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1:02:35 --> 1:02:37
Thanks, thank you, Albert.
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1:02:37 --> 1:02:38
Mark, you're next.
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1:02:38 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]opped off.
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1:02:39 --> 1:02:41
So as I say, if you make a noise,
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1:02:41 --> 1:02:[privacy contact redaction]ops, you're next, Mark.
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1:02:45 --> 1:02:47
Thanks, thanks, thanks for that, Charles.
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1:02:47 --> 1:02:50
Kirk, fantastic, great to hear your story.
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1:02:50 --> 1:02:53
Yeah, I'd love to assist in any way possible.
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1:02:53 --> 1:02:56
You do know that it was a biological chemical weapons
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1:02:56 --> 1:02:57
program, yeah?
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1:02:58 --> 1:02:59
You do know that.
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1:02:59 --> 1:03:04
You know the recent affidavit that's been put in
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1:03:04 --> 1:03:07
by Professor Francis Boyle.
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1:03:07 --> 1:03:08
Yes.
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1:03:08 --> 1:03:10
So you know about that.
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1:03:10 --> 1:03:12
If there's anything you need to assist,
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1:03:12 --> 1:03:16
with all the ingredients in these contaminated shots,
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1:03:16 --> 1:03:17
they're bio weapons.
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1:03:17 --> 1:03:20
Let's stop calling them vaccines.
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1:03:20 --> 1:03:22
It was a bio weapons program.
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1:03:22 --> 1:03:24
It was run by the DOD.
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1:03:24 --> 1:03:26
It's a globalist agenda that depopulates
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1:03:26 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction]ed nanometamaterial antennas.
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1:03:31 --> 1:03:34
I mean, I'm testing lots of people at the minute.
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1:03:34 --> 1:03:37
They're running around with MAC codes, media access codes.
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1:03:37 --> 1:03:39
It's unbelievable what's going on.
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1:03:39 --> 1:03:43
However, all of that evidence will assist your legal team
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1:03:43 --> 1:03:44
in a cold case.
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1:03:44 --> 1:03:47
I've got, we've had several over here.
1017
1:03:48 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] to give you a bit of an upside on one of the cases
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1:03:53 --> 1:03:[privacy contact redaction] month was a guy who threatened
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1:04:00 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction] furniture
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1:04:03 --> 1:04:04
over the firearm.
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1:04:05 --> 1:04:08
It's a section [privacy contact redaction]
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1:04:08 --> 1:04:10
We had a defense to that because we know that the LEDs
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1:04:10 --> 1:04:13
are part of a weapons program called soft kill.
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1:04:13 --> 1:04:14
We can prove that.
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1:04:14 --> 1:04:17
And during that cold case,
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1:04:17 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]opped the case
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1:04:20 --> 1:04:22
because they don't want to continue
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1:04:22 --> 1:04:25
because they said it's not in the public interest.
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1:04:25 --> 1:04:27
So we've got all the evidence.
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1:04:27 --> 1:04:29
We've got the evidence of the ULAS,
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1:04:29 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]oyments,
1032
1:04:31 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]ems that interconnected
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1:04:33 --> 1:04:38
with the contamination that was currently in those shots,
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1:04:38 --> 1:04:41
not vaccines, by weapons, the contaminated parts.
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1:04:41 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction] them.
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1:04:42 --> 1:04:45
We've got the spectrum analysis of them.
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1:04:45 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction]ly how they work.
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1:04:47 --> 1:04:51
These graphite, ferritic oxide, nano-material antennas
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1:04:51 --> 1:04:54
to track, trace and to terminate the victim.
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1:04:54 --> 1:04:55
So we've got all that evidence.
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1:04:55 --> 1:04:[privacy contact redaction] with your cold case,
1042
1:04:58 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] getting touch, Kirk, you know,
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1:05:00 --> 1:05:04
I'm absolutely happy to assist anybody fighting this fight.
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1:05:04 --> 1:05:05
Okay.
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1:05:05 --> 1:05:08
So if you need anything in relation to that,
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1:05:08 --> 1:05:09
we're here to help.
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1:05:09 --> 1:05:10
Well, I appreciate that, Mark.
1048
1:05:10 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]en, one of the things that I've been saying all along
1049
1:05:16 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] 18 months is that there's a lot of things
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1:05:20 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] doesn't want to expose.
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1:05:22 --> 1:05:23
And there's been a lot of civil cases
1052
1:05:23 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction] been brought to try to expose both our government
1053
1:05:27 --> 1:05:32
as well as Pfizer and Moderna and all of these agencies
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1:05:32 --> 1:05:34
that are involved in it.
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1:05:34 --> 1:05:37
And they've been able to, on the civil side,
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1:05:37 --> 1:05:39
they've been able to kind of avoid
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1:05:39 --> 1:05:42
any kind of responsibility or any kind of accountability.
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1:05:43 --> 1:05:48
But if I can get the right approach
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1:05:48 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ive that has any evidence in any,
1060
1:05:51 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ays within boundaries of being able
1061
1:05:54 --> 1:05:[privacy contact redaction]ered a bio-weapon
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1:05:57 --> 1:06:00
like you say, and we can present that evidence
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1:06:00 --> 1:06:04
and get that, and essentially ask the government
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1:06:04 --> 1:06:08
to present that evidence to us as part of our defense,
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1:06:08 --> 1:06:13
then they, from the legal perspective in the United States
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1:06:13 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] case, a Brady issue
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1:06:17 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] to disclose information
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1:06:18 --> 1:06:21
that could potentially be exculpatory,
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1:06:22 --> 1:06:24
that would be tremendous for us
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1:06:24 --> 1:06:27
because enough to put pressure on them
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1:06:28 --> 1:06:29
to be able to kind of say,
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1:06:29 --> 1:06:31
hey, we don't really want to get this information exposed.
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1:06:31 --> 1:06:34
So I'm open to any and all of that.
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1:06:34 --> 1:06:36
So I appreciate that, Mark.
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1:06:36 --> 1:06:37
Well, we can definitely assist with that.
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1:06:37 --> 1:06:41
One of the things everybody, my email's being taken down.
1077
1:06:41 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction] week I've filed against TFL and the GLE in London
1078
1:06:46 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]rable
1079
1:06:48 --> 1:06:[privacy contact redaction]em masquerading as a NPR camera.
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1:06:54 --> 1:06:56
So my current email's down.
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1:06:56 --> 1:06:59
So if I'm gonna put it in the chat.
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1:06:59 --> 1:07:02
So I've got an email, Charles, so people can send me.
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1:07:02 --> 1:07:05
One of the lads sent me the link to this tonight
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1:07:05 --> 1:07:06
because my email's down.
1085
1:07:06 --> 1:07:08
Unfortunately, we do have the evidence.
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1:07:08 --> 1:07:11
It is horrific, but it is what it is.
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1:07:11 --> 1:07:13
And the technicalities of what we're talking about
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1:07:13 --> 1:07:15
are irrefutable.
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1:07:15 --> 1:07:16
That's the main thing.
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1:07:16 --> 1:07:19
And the judges, the judges who are sitting on these panels
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1:07:19 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ers,
1092
1:07:21 --> 1:07:[privacy contact redaction]ed
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1:07:23 --> 1:07:26
with these track trace termination technologies.
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1:07:27 --> 1:07:28
Excellent.
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1:07:28 --> 1:07:32
Put your email in there, Kirk, I think Mark.
1096
1:07:32 --> 1:07:37
Mark's perspective on this would be useful for your case.
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1:07:38 --> 1:07:41
As and so, I've got other questions,
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1:07:41 --> 1:07:42
but let's go to Cordelia
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1:07:42 --> 1:07:44
because your hand went down, Cordelia.
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1:07:44 --> 1:07:47
Then we go to Jim, who is JWT.
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1:07:49 --> 1:07:50
Hi.
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1:07:50 --> 1:07:53
It's more of a comment than a question.
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1:07:53 --> 1:07:56
I've just applied for a new job in the NHS.
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1:07:57 --> 1:07:58
I don't know whether you're familiar with that,
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1:07:58 --> 1:08:00
but I'm sure you know the NHS.
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1:08:00 --> 1:08:02
And after filling in a million forms
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1:08:02 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction],
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1:08:04 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]
1109
1:08:07 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]er on six online portals
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to fill in more forms, probably a hundred forms.
1111
1:08:15 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]l to Liverpool
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to attend an occupational health meeting
1113
1:08:23 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] my blood taken for antibodies,
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1:08:25 --> 1:08:29
for hepatitis B, MMR, whooping cough,
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1:08:29 --> 1:08:32
varicella, rubella, what have you.
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1:08:32 --> 1:08:35
And if those antibody levels were too low,
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1:08:35 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] all these vaccinations
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1:08:39 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]
1119
1:08:42 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]etely now
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because even three years ago,
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1:08:47 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction] turn up at a new job
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1:08:49 --> 1:08:53
and bring your certificates along and that was it.
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1:08:53 --> 1:08:[privacy contact redaction]oyment
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1:08:57 --> 1:08:59
is based on your antibody levels.
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1:09:01 --> 1:09:05
And I think the whooping cough vaccination that's new now,
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1:09:05 --> 1:09:08
MMR, it's to have your levels checked
1127
1:09:08 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]er, I think that's new.
1128
1:09:10 --> 1:09:15
So it's quite frightening how they realised,
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1:09:15 --> 1:09:18
oh, with the COVID vaccination that went wrong
1130
1:09:18 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]ors and nurses are not having it now.
1131
1:09:20 --> 1:09:23
So now they're coming from another angle
1132
1:09:24 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction] all these things
1133
1:09:26 --> 1:09:29
that we really don't need.
1134
1:09:29 --> 1:09:31
And the thought of me having all these boosters
1135
1:09:31 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]arting a new job,
1136
1:09:33 --> 1:09:36
it's frightening because that could easily push some
1137
1:09:36 --> 1:09:39
over the edge and cause MS or whatever.
1138
1:09:40 --> 1:09:41
Absolutely.
1139
1:09:42 --> 1:09:44
Don't do it, Cordelia.
1140
1:09:44 --> 1:09:[privacy contact redaction]on?
1141
1:09:45 --> 1:09:47
Don't do it, but don't do it.
1142
1:09:47 --> 1:09:48
No, I pulled out.
1143
1:09:48 --> 1:09:51
I pulled out, I said, no, thank you very much.
1144
1:09:51 --> 1:09:51
I'm not doing it.
1145
1:09:53 --> 1:09:55
Did you say why?
1146
1:09:55 --> 1:09:57
Did you tell them why?
1147
1:09:57 --> 1:09:58
Well, I did email them, yes.
1148
1:09:58 --> 1:10:00
I did email them and then,
1149
1:10:00 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] Friday evening and today Sunday,
1150
1:10:03 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]n't had a reply.
1151
1:10:05 --> 1:10:08
But it's just frightening that they,
1152
1:10:08 --> 1:10:11
so you couldn't, I think the system is designed
1153
1:10:11 --> 1:10:13
so you can't turn up with a certificate
1154
1:10:13 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]or
1155
1:10:15 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] and forgot the needle.
1156
1:10:19 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]em is designed now that it's watertight
1157
1:10:21 --> 1:10:23
that you cannot escape the needle.
1158
1:10:24 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction] frightening.
1159
1:10:25 --> 1:10:27
So-
1160
1:10:27 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]elia, you ought to contact Andrew Bridgen,
1161
1:10:28 --> 1:10:31
who's currently fighting for his seat,
1162
1:10:31 --> 1:10:34
but this need, so, but could be useful to him
1163
1:10:34 --> 1:10:36
in one of his interviews.
1164
1:10:38 --> 1:10:38
Yeah.
1165
1:10:38 --> 1:10:43
He wouldn't need to name you if he didn't want them,
1166
1:10:43 --> 1:10:46
but it's, I had no idea that they were doing this.
1167
1:10:46 --> 1:10:49
They were trying to do this in the military with me
1168
1:10:49 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]ing,
1169
1:10:50 --> 1:10:53
pretending I didn't understand what they were doing.
1170
1:10:53 --> 1:10:[privacy contact redaction]ually I didn't understand to the extent I do now.
1171
1:10:57 --> 1:11:02
Well, it's just bonkers to give you a week's notice,
1172
1:11:02 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]ers within a week.
1173
1:11:04 --> 1:11:08
I mean, that could give you chronic fatigue and-
1174
1:11:08 --> 1:11:09
Absolutely.
1175
1:11:09 --> 1:11:11
Or other autoimmune conditions.
1176
1:11:11 --> 1:11:13
Or even autism.
1177
1:11:13 --> 1:11:15
Yeah, well, quite, but it's shocking.
1178
1:11:15 --> 1:11:18
Yeah, the young doctors, the 20 year olds,
1179
1:11:18 --> 1:11:22
or 23 year olds, they could get autism or so.
1180
1:11:22 --> 1:11:25
But it's just shocking how, to what extent,
1181
1:11:26 --> 1:11:[privacy contact redaction]l to Liverpool
1182
1:11:28 --> 1:11:31
when I don't even have any annual leave left.
1183
1:11:31 --> 1:11:33
I mean, it's just not practical, isn't it?
1184
1:11:33 --> 1:11:36
So why do they want you to go to Liverpool, Cordelia?
1185
1:11:36 --> 1:11:38
I think it's because they can all do it
1186
1:11:38 --> 1:11:40
in a centralized lab.
1187
1:11:40 --> 1:11:43
So you're not trying to bypass it with,
1188
1:11:43 --> 1:11:46
oh, I know such and such will do it for me.
1189
1:11:46 --> 1:11:49
And I think because they're doing it in a centralized lab,
1190
1:11:49 --> 1:11:52
they can make sure there's no escape for any of them.
1191
1:11:53 --> 1:11:54
Well, as John's-
1192
1:11:54 --> 1:11:54
As John's-
1193
1:11:54 --> 1:11:55
So we need this, so Cordelia,
1194
1:11:55 --> 1:11:58
what we need to do there is put a freedom of information
1195
1:11:58 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] in, not now maybe,
1196
1:12:01 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] wait for maybe three months, say,
1197
1:12:03 --> 1:12:08
and ask them for the figures on what,
1198
1:12:08 --> 1:12:10
we don't have to know the names of the people
1199
1:12:10 --> 1:12:11
that they're talking about,
1200
1:12:11 --> 1:12:16
but we want the figures, how many people failed the tests,
1201
1:12:16 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]s,
1202
1:12:18 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ually went ahead
1203
1:12:21 --> 1:12:25
and had the vaccinations that were required.
1204
1:12:25 --> 1:12:27
This is outrageous, yeah.
1205
1:12:27 --> 1:12:28
Yeah, it's shocking, isn't it?
1206
1:12:28 --> 1:12:30
Absolutely shocking.
1207
1:12:30 --> 1:12:34
As John Bodewell says, it's a compliance test, Cordelia.
1208
1:12:34 --> 1:12:35
Yes.
1209
1:12:35 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction] do what you're told?
1210
1:12:36 --> 1:12:38
If so, then you're in.
1211
1:12:38 --> 1:12:41
But also what's outrageous is that went through
1212
1:12:41 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]ep,
1213
1:12:44 --> 1:12:46
and so it's a good warning for everybody.
1214
1:12:46 --> 1:12:[privacy contact redaction]y for any new job, right upfront,
1215
1:12:50 --> 1:12:55
you get it in writing that there will be no requirement
1216
1:12:55 --> 1:12:57
for any medical intervention.
1217
1:12:57 --> 1:12:59
And if they don't tell you that upfront,
1218
1:12:59 --> 1:13:01
don't apply for the job.
1219
1:13:01 --> 1:13:03
All right, thank you, Cordelia.
1220
1:13:03 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]ephen says-
1221
1:13:04 --> 1:13:06
Go ahead, just do not comply, period.
1222
1:13:06 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]elia, the NHS is absolutely corrupt beyond belief.
1223
1:13:12 --> 1:13:13
Yeah, I know, it's correct.
1224
1:13:13 --> 1:13:16
And the managers running it are in a cult,
1225
1:13:16 --> 1:13:20
they think like a cult, and that the doctors say,
1226
1:13:20 --> 1:13:23
oh, we have to do what the managers tell us.
1227
1:13:23 --> 1:13:24
No, that's wrong.
1228
1:13:24 --> 1:13:26
You don't want to be working for the NHS.
1229
1:13:27 --> 1:13:29
I did email them and told them
1230
1:13:29 --> 1:13:32
they are a soul-destroying morale killer.
1231
1:13:32 --> 1:13:33
They are.
1232
1:13:33 --> 1:13:36
Absolutely good on you, Cordelia.
1233
1:13:36 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction], thanks for listening.
1234
1:13:39 --> 1:13:40
Thanks, Cordelia.
1235
1:13:40 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]elia, if you'd like to work on the NHS,
1236
1:13:43 --> 1:13:45
I'll try and help you with that
1237
1:13:45 --> 1:13:[privacy contact redaction]e to help you as well.
1238
1:13:48 --> 1:13:50
Thank you.
1239
1:13:50 --> 1:13:52
Ian McDermott would help you, I'm sure.
1240
1:13:54 --> 1:13:58
Okay, Jim and then Glyn.
1241
1:14:01 --> 1:14:03
Hey, thanks very much for the presentation, that was great.
1242
1:14:04 --> 1:14:09
The issue of using this to get more information,
1243
1:14:11 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]y to get discovery, or do you?
1244
1:14:14 --> 1:14:19
And if so, what kind of, the key is,
1245
1:14:19 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction]ions you can ask to get the discovery.
1246
1:14:22 --> 1:14:26
And if they don't answer, or if they withhold information,
1247
1:14:26 --> 1:14:28
your lawyer fees get paid
1248
1:14:28 --> 1:14:30
until they turn over the information.
1249
1:14:31 --> 1:14:34
That's through, that's a,
1250
1:14:34 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] case
1251
1:14:35 --> 1:14:38
called the Goodyear versus Hagar case.
1252
1:14:39 --> 1:14:43
And the issue is that we need to show that they are,
1253
1:14:43 --> 1:14:45
they who are withholding information
1254
1:14:45 --> 1:14:47
is maybe our intelligence agencies,
1255
1:14:47 --> 1:14:50
the Department of Defense, along with Pfizer, Moderna,
1256
1:14:50 --> 1:14:54
the FDA and the CDC,
1257
1:14:54 --> 1:14:[privacy contact redaction] weaponized
1258
1:14:57 --> 1:15:00
something called Coxiella Burnetti,
1259
1:15:00 --> 1:15:02
which has all the same symptoms and signs,
1260
1:15:02 --> 1:15:05
except for the blood clots, of COVID-19
1261
1:15:05 --> 1:15:07
for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
1262
1:15:08 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ed via FOIA
1263
1:15:14 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]e,
1264
1:15:18 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ed, two years ago it was requested.
1265
1:15:20 --> 1:15:23
They took two years to turn over the information,
1266
1:15:23 --> 1:15:25
now it's very highly redacted.
1267
1:15:25 --> 1:15:27
Coxiella Burnetti is known as
1268
1:15:28 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]ery.
1269
1:15:30 --> 1:15:31
The reason I'm bringing all this up
1270
1:15:31 --> 1:15:35
is because the key may be in the discovery requests,
1271
1:15:35 --> 1:15:[privacy contact redaction]e who are involved in this,
1272
1:15:40 --> 1:15:43
the Department of Defense, the FDA, the CDC,
1273
1:15:43 --> 1:15:47
and the intelligence networks of what I call Six Eyes,
1274
1:15:47 --> 1:15:49
or what they call themselves Six Eyes,
1275
1:15:49 --> 1:15:52
the intelligence networks may be involved
1276
1:15:52 --> 1:15:55
and are not turning over the evidence
1277
1:15:55 --> 1:15:56
that they are involved,
1278
1:15:56 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] some confidentiality issues
1279
1:16:00 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] been approved,
1280
1:16:01 --> 1:16:02
and that's what I don't understand.
1281
1:16:02 --> 1:16:03
So good luck with the,
1282
1:16:03 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]aud your efforts,
1283
1:16:07 --> 1:16:08
let us know how we can help,
1284
1:16:08 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction] importantly, get the right questions to ask
1285
1:16:14 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]e who are suing you,
1286
1:16:16 --> 1:16:20
because they should know that this is a biotera weapon.
1287
1:16:20 --> 1:16:22
They should know that this is,
1288
1:16:22 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ephen and everybody knows,
1289
1:16:24 --> 1:16:27
say this may be genetically specific
1290
1:16:27 --> 1:16:29
to SARS-CoV-2 spike protein,
1291
1:16:29 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ed and who's not affected.
1292
1:16:31 --> 1:16:33
They may know why they were preventing
1293
1:16:33 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]in and all that stuff
1294
1:16:36 --> 1:16:38
from being used like never before.
1295
1:16:38 --> 1:16:39
So thanks for your efforts.
1296
1:16:41 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ions that you've asked them,
1297
1:16:44 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ions?
1298
1:16:47 --> 1:16:[privacy contact redaction]ions?
1299
1:16:49 --> 1:16:50
Thanks.
1300
1:16:50 --> 1:16:53
So yes, I mean, that's part of our core case.
1301
1:16:53 --> 1:16:57
So it's been a whirlwind, obviously.
1302
1:16:57 --> 1:16:59
The discovery part of it is something
1303
1:16:59 --> 1:17:01
that I certainly wanna take advantage of.
1304
1:17:02 --> 1:17:07
And that is, I do have a long list of questions
1305
1:17:08 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] put together.
1306
1:17:10 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] been submitted yet
1307
1:17:13 --> 1:17:17
as far as kind of asking for discovery
1308
1:17:17 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]ual motion for discovery.
1309
1:17:22 --> 1:17:24
Those are things that we are working on,
1310
1:17:24 --> 1:17:25
but you're absolutely right.
1311
1:17:25 --> 1:17:28
That's kind of one of the, I guess, strategies or tactics
1312
1:17:28 --> 1:17:30
that we're trying to get to is,
1313
1:17:30 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]ions?
1314
1:17:33 --> 1:17:36
I'm in communication with Katherine Watt
1315
1:17:36 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction]ing a lot of this on their end.
1316
1:17:45 --> 1:17:49
I'm trying to compile and put it into a format
1317
1:17:49 --> 1:17:54
that will get us as much information as we need to
1318
1:17:56 --> 1:17:[privacy contact redaction] try to make it,
1319
1:18:02 --> 1:18:06
as long as it relates to my defense in some capacity
1320
1:18:06 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] or everything else.
1321
1:18:10 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]raight broadcase.
1322
1:18:14 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction],
1323
1:18:15 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ions on how to use it.
1324
1:18:17 --> 1:18:19
I didn't use it the way,
1325
1:18:19 --> 1:18:20
or they're alleging that I didn't use it
1326
1:18:20 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] they want me to use it.
1327
1:18:22 --> 1:18:25
And so they don't wanna go outside of those boundaries.
1328
1:18:26 --> 1:18:31
And so it's a kind of a finesse in a sense
1329
1:18:31 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ual efficacy
1330
1:18:38 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] was,
1331
1:18:41 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction]ored?
1332
1:18:42 --> 1:18:43
How was it produced?
1333
1:18:45 --> 1:18:47
Show me the temperature logs of the vaccine
1334
1:18:47 --> 1:18:49
as it was sent to me,
1335
1:18:50 --> 1:18:[privacy contact redaction] of ingredients, all of those things.
1336
1:18:53 --> 1:18:58
Show me the FDA certification of the facility
1337
1:18:58 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction] was made in, all of those things.
1338
1:19:03 --> 1:19:05
Prove that it wasn't contaminated,
1339
1:19:05 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ions,
1340
1:19:08 --> 1:19:09
it's just a matter of what they're gonna allow us
1341
1:19:09 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]
1342
1:19:12 --> 1:19:14
Well, if you ask and they don't turn it over,
1343
1:19:14 --> 1:19:16
that's when your lawyers fees start getting paid.
1344
1:19:16 --> 1:19:21
And so I encourage you to include the Albert's information
1345
1:19:22 --> 1:19:27
about the contaminants, the DNA plasmid contaminants
1346
1:19:27 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]ly with the vaccine injuries.
1347
1:19:30 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction] the DNA,
1348
1:19:32 --> 1:19:35
these alleged vaccines or these bio weapons
1349
1:19:35 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]asmid contaminants?
1350
1:19:37 --> 1:19:39
And here's the secret, the plasmids,
1351
1:19:39 --> 1:19:[privacy contact redaction]asmids don't have to be refrigerated.
1352
1:19:42 --> 1:19:47
Okay, so that's why it correlates with Albert's information.
1353
1:19:49 --> 1:19:52
The mRNA vaccine has to be refrigerated,
1354
1:19:52 --> 1:19:55
it has to be negative 70,
1355
1:19:55 --> 1:19:58
and then it has to be used within three hours of storage.
1356
1:19:58 --> 1:20:02
However, the DNA plasmids are still potent, still dangerous.
1357
1:20:02 --> 1:20:06
And I also wanna encourage you to ask
1358
1:20:06 --> 1:20:08
and subpoena information from the guy who created
1359
1:20:09 --> 1:20:11
the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in the vaccine.
1360
1:20:11 --> 1:20:16
And every vaccine, Moderna, Pfizer, as well as J&J,
1361
1:20:16 --> 1:20:18
those are the three that were included in the United States.
1362
1:20:18 --> 1:20:22
It was all created by or designed by a guy named Jason McClellan,
1363
1:20:22 --> 1:20:24
M-C, capital L-E-L-L-A-N,
1364
1:20:24 --> 1:20:26
out of the University of Texas, Austin,
1365
1:20:26 --> 1:20:28
on a supercomputer called Longhorn.
1366
1:20:30 --> 1:20:32
You need to ask him.
1367
1:20:32 --> 1:20:34
He developed the spike protein
1368
1:20:34 --> 1:20:35
that is allegedly in the vaccines
1369
1:20:35 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]rains.
1370
1:20:39 --> 1:20:40
That keep the...
1371
1:20:40 --> 1:20:42
But he did not take out the fear and cleavage site.
1372
1:20:42 --> 1:20:44
The fear and cleavage site, they know.
1373
1:20:44 --> 1:20:47
Why did they only use his design?
1374
1:20:47 --> 1:20:49
Is he an intelligence agent?
1375
1:20:50 --> 1:20:[privacy contact redaction]ions
1376
1:20:51 --> 1:20:52
about the intelligence agencies and say,
1377
1:20:52 --> 1:20:55
you can't be sued until these intelligence agencies
1378
1:20:55 --> 1:20:57
come clean, that's very important.
1379
1:20:58 --> 1:21:00
And if they're not gonna come clean, you can't be sued.
1380
1:21:01 --> 1:21:02
Because they're lying.
1381
1:21:02 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] to lie.
1382
1:21:05 --> 1:21:07
It's very important.
1383
1:21:07 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction], we can talk later on if you need to.
1384
1:21:09 --> 1:21:10
Yeah, no, I'd love to.
1385
1:21:10 --> 1:21:13
Yeah, share your contact info, would you?
1386
1:21:13 --> 1:21:14
Thank you.
1387
1:21:14 --> 1:21:17
Or Kirk, I can help you with Jim.
1388
1:21:17 --> 1:21:18
So thanks, Jim, for that.
1389
1:21:19 --> 1:21:22
Glenn, were you next or was it Jerome then you?
1390
1:21:23 --> 1:21:26
Well, I was, but when Jerome raised his hand,
1391
1:21:26 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction]ion before I posed mine.
1392
1:21:28 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction],
1393
1:21:30 --> 1:21:32
I'd like to be right after him.
1394
1:21:32 --> 1:21:32
Go ahead.
1395
1:21:34 --> 1:21:35
Thank you very much, Glenn.
1396
1:21:37 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] of all, what you've done,
1397
1:21:40 --> 1:21:43
Kirk, is remarkable and it's admirable.
1398
1:21:45 --> 1:21:47
Now the key is to win.
1399
1:21:48 --> 1:21:[privacy contact redaction] yourself
1400
1:21:51 --> 1:21:53
and let them handle everything.
1401
1:21:53 --> 1:21:55
And I advise you to ignore their advice.
1402
1:21:57 --> 1:22:00
What I've done on these issues is I've gone public.
1403
1:22:00 --> 1:22:01
I fought a long time.
1404
1:22:01 --> 1:22:03
They wanted to put me in prison.
1405
1:22:03 --> 1:22:06
And I did more interviews than I've ever done in my life
1406
1:22:06 --> 1:22:08
because I've talked to anybody who would talk to me,
1407
1:22:08 --> 1:22:11
including NBC, CBS, et cetera.
1408
1:22:11 --> 1:22:15
Now, you won't get on those shows with this,
1409
1:22:16 --> 1:22:19
but I don't know if you've done this or not.
1410
1:22:19 --> 1:22:21
And your lawyers are gonna not be happy
1411
1:22:21 --> 1:22:23
with you for doing it.
1412
1:22:23 --> 1:22:26
But what I would do is I would create a website immediately.
1413
1:22:26 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]art raising money.
1414
1:22:29 --> 1:22:33
I'd start writing articles and getting them in publication.
1415
1:22:33 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] be outrageous.
1416
1:22:37 --> 1:22:38
You say, I would say,
1417
1:22:38 --> 1:22:41
I think the intelligence agencies are behind this.
1418
1:22:41 --> 1:22:43
I think this was a psychological operation.
1419
1:22:45 --> 1:22:47
I'm going to pursue this court case
1420
1:22:47 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] of the public opinion
1421
1:22:50 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction]
1422
1:22:51 --> 1:22:[privacy contact redaction] you with poisons.
1423
1:22:57 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]atform for that.
1424
1:23:00 --> 1:23:02
Right.
1425
1:23:02 --> 1:23:03
Okay.
1426
1:23:03 --> 1:23:06
And if you make this into that type of a platform,
1427
1:23:06 --> 1:23:08
now you will probably increase the risk
1428
1:23:08 --> 1:23:11
that your penalties will be more severe.
1429
1:23:11 --> 1:23:13
That's what they will threaten you with.
1430
1:23:13 --> 1:23:16
But at the same time, they're gonna put you in prison anyway.
1431
1:23:16 --> 1:23:17
That's what they intend to do.
1432
1:23:17 --> 1:23:20
Now, the reason they haven't done it right away
1433
1:23:20 --> 1:23:23
is because they're not sure
1434
1:23:23 --> 1:23:27
that you won't attract a bigger audience to your case
1435
1:23:27 --> 1:23:30
than they're comfortable having done.
1436
1:23:30 --> 1:23:35
But we're creating this anti-globalist alliance
1437
1:23:35 --> 1:23:39
and this is one of the cases,
1438
1:23:39 --> 1:23:42
we're making a big issue out of the pandemic
1439
1:23:42 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction]e.
1440
1:23:44 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] effort.
1441
1:23:46 --> 1:23:51
And you've got a primary opportunity
1442
1:23:52 --> 1:23:[privacy contact redaction] the truth
1443
1:23:57 --> 1:23:59
and not be concerned about the consequences.
1444
1:24:00 --> 1:24:05
Now, the advice to raise all of these inquiries
1445
1:24:05 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]s, you've gotta say,
1446
1:24:08 --> 1:24:10
I'm confident that the intelligence agencies
1447
1:24:10 --> 1:24:12
were behind this.
1448
1:24:12 --> 1:24:14
This was an intelligence agency operation
1449
1:24:14 --> 1:24:16
from the beginning.
1450
1:24:16 --> 1:24:18
So it's psychological operation running the American people,
1451
1:24:18 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]e.
1452
1:24:20 --> 1:24:24
And I want to get all the documents I can
1453
1:24:24 --> 1:24:25
to prove that there's already
1454
1:24:25 --> 1:24:28
quite a lot of documents out there.
1455
1:24:28 --> 1:24:32
You can find you'd have a very large network of people
1456
1:24:32 --> 1:24:34
who you could be on your side,
1457
1:24:34 --> 1:24:36
including Robert Kennedy Jr.
1458
1:24:37 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction] the vaccinations
1459
1:24:39 --> 1:24:44
and led the charge on the vaccinations and autism.
1460
1:24:44 --> 1:24:47
And he's assembled a large group of doctors
1461
1:24:47 --> 1:24:48
that would champion you.
1462
1:24:48 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ack.
1463
1:24:51 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]
1464
1:24:52 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]ack.
1465
1:24:55 --> 1:24:[privacy contact redaction]eps that you can take
1466
1:25:00 --> 1:25:05
to raise their risks of prosecuting you,
1467
1:25:05 --> 1:25:08
because you want to make your trial an international trial,
1468
1:25:09 --> 1:25:11
one that will be followed internationally
1469
1:25:11 --> 1:25:15
and one that will be seen internationally.
1470
1:25:15 --> 1:25:20
And you've never been given a megaphone this big.
1471
1:25:21 --> 1:25:23
And so therefore I would recommend you use it
1472
1:25:23 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction] you can.
1473
1:25:25 --> 1:25:26
We can help.
1474
1:25:27 --> 1:25:29
You need to get a website going.
1475
1:25:29 --> 1:25:31
You need to network.
1476
1:25:31 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]s.
1477
1:25:32 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]ors that are working on this.
1478
1:25:38 --> 1:25:39
There's a whole network of them that you can find.
1479
1:25:39 --> 1:25:41
We'll get you on TNT.
1480
1:25:41 --> 1:25:43
Get you on TNT radio.
1481
1:25:44 --> 1:25:45
The whole works.
1482
1:25:46 --> 1:25:51
And we'll make it a major cause to love internationally,
1483
1:25:51 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]
1484
1:25:54 --> 1:25:[privacy contact redaction]ablishment and won.
1485
1:25:57 --> 1:25:59
If you didn't win in the courts,
1486
1:25:59 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]ory of saving lives
1487
1:26:03 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction]e from having to submit
1488
1:26:06 --> 1:26:09
to the coercion of an oppressive government.
1489
1:26:09 --> 1:26:11
Your whole message can be,
1490
1:26:11 --> 1:26:14
if the government, if the global governments,
1491
1:26:14 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] with COVID-19
1492
1:26:19 --> 1:26:22
and forced vaccinations of a poison,
1493
1:26:22 --> 1:26:25
what will they do next?
1494
1:26:25 --> 1:26:26
They're already talking about
1495
1:26:26 --> 1:26:29
the World Health Organization having supremacy
1496
1:26:29 --> 1:26:32
over every government's sovereignty in the world
1497
1:26:32 --> 1:26:35
to declare a pandemic because of global warming.
1498
1:26:37 --> 1:26:41
This is lying science.
1499
1:26:41 --> 1:26:43
They advanced because it was a lie.
1500
1:26:44 --> 1:26:48
It didn't accidentally find out it was a lie.
1501
1:26:48 --> 1:26:50
They knew it was a lie.
1502
1:26:50 --> 1:26:53
And they told it to you, told it to the world
1503
1:26:53 --> 1:26:55
because it's a lie.
1504
1:26:55 --> 1:26:56
That's evil.
1505
1:26:56 --> 1:26:[privacy contact redaction] doing something wrong.
1506
1:26:58 --> 1:27:00
Evil is doing something because it's wrong
1507
1:27:00 --> 1:27:03
and knowing it's evil, wanting to do it anyway.
1508
1:27:03 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]e, that's evil.
1509
1:27:06 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]e with evil
1510
1:27:11 --> 1:27:13
and you'll win in the court of morality
1511
1:27:13 --> 1:27:16
and you'll win points for your soul
1512
1:27:16 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] to go to prison.
1513
1:27:18 --> 1:27:22
So Kirk, wonderful advice from Jerome Corsi.
1514
1:27:22 --> 1:27:25
I really recommend that you look at his C-SPAN interview,
1515
1:27:25 --> 1:27:26
sorry, speech.
1516
1:27:26 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]e.
1517
1:27:29 --> 1:27:31
It's a wonderful interview.
1518
1:27:31 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction] other things that they offered him
1519
1:27:35 --> 1:27:[privacy contact redaction]igation
1520
1:27:39 --> 1:27:43
and he says in the speech, I think,
1521
1:27:43 --> 1:27:48
that he told them that he would not lie before God
1522
1:27:48 --> 1:27:50
and he'd rather go to prison
1523
1:27:50 --> 1:27:51
if that's what they wanted to do to him.
1524
1:27:51 --> 1:27:53
And guess what they did?
1525
1:27:53 --> 1:27:55
They didn't indict him
1526
1:27:55 --> 1:27:57
because they're cowards, these people.
1527
1:27:57 --> 1:28:02
And Jerome, I hope I have misrepresented you.
1528
1:28:02 --> 1:28:02
I think that's-
1529
1:28:02 --> 1:28:03
That's very accurate.
1530
1:28:03 --> 1:28:04
Thank you, Stephen.
1531
1:28:05 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction] I say I-
1532
1:28:07 --> 1:28:12
And I think I'm right in saying that you were involved
1533
1:28:12 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]ice over money laundering
1534
1:28:15 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]ug cartels.
1535
1:28:19 --> 1:28:20
Yes.
1536
1:28:20 --> 1:28:24
And Jerome told me recently that he figured out
1537
1:28:24 --> 1:28:27
how they did the voting fraud, figured out-
1538
1:28:27 --> 1:28:31
Yeah, we now have, I've been working with Andrew Paquette
1539
1:28:31 --> 1:28:34
who has discovered algorithms
1540
1:28:34 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]ration logs of New York state
1541
1:28:39 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]ates, they're probably in every state.
1542
1:28:42 --> 1:28:45
It's a very complex National Security Administration
1543
1:28:45 --> 1:28:47
quality encryption scheme.
1544
1:28:48 --> 1:28:51
And what it does is it creates,
1545
1:28:53 --> 1:28:[privacy contact redaction]ion numbers
1546
1:28:57 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction] no relationship to when they registered.
1547
1:29:01 --> 1:29:04
And as such, it's a very complex scheme
1548
1:29:04 --> 1:29:08
where they can create fraudulent votes
1549
1:29:08 --> 1:29:10
and they can sort them into the deck.
1550
1:29:10 --> 1:29:12
It's like a card trick
1551
1:29:12 --> 1:29:13
where they can sort them into the deck
1552
1:29:13 --> 1:29:16
so they can deal them as fraudulent votes
1553
1:29:16 --> 1:29:17
whenever they want them.
1554
1:29:17 --> 1:29:20
They can find them, but you can't find them.
1555
1:29:20 --> 1:29:23
And there'd probably be,
1556
1:29:23 --> 1:29:28
in a [privacy contact redaction]ate has
1557
1:29:29 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]ration,
1558
1:29:30 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction]s are fraudulent
1559
1:29:32 --> 1:29:37
or potentially capable of being voted fraudulently.
1560
1:29:37 --> 1:29:40
So I'm in the process now of exposing this.
1561
1:29:40 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction] article on it,
1562
1:29:41 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction] week to American Thinker.
1563
1:29:44 --> 1:29:[privacy contact redaction] this be a major national campaign,
1564
1:29:48 --> 1:29:52
God willing, in the next, between now and the election time.
1565
1:29:52 --> 1:29:55
I've just written the Anti-Globalist Manifesto.
1566
1:29:56 --> 1:29:58
We're going to war with these people.
1567
1:29:59 --> 1:30:00
Yes.
1568
1:30:00 --> 1:30:03
And you've also written the book,
1569
1:30:03 --> 1:30:05
the book on JFK assassination,
1570
1:30:05 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]e are believing you on that.
1571
1:30:09 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction] you, but the doctor, the whistleblower doctor.
1572
1:30:11 --> 1:30:12
Yes.
1573
1:30:12 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction] Mantek, my co-author,
1574
1:30:16 --> 1:30:21
has a PhD in physics and his specialty was radiation,
1575
1:30:21 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]udied x-rays, did a PhD thesis on x-rays,
1576
1:30:25 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction]icing radiation
1577
1:30:29 --> 1:30:[privacy contact redaction], which he's practiced for four decades,
1578
1:30:32 --> 1:30:35
more than four decades, and he's still practicing.
1579
1:30:35 --> 1:30:39
He is doing locum tenens right now, very actively.
1580
1:30:39 --> 1:30:40
And he's brilliant.
1581
1:30:40 --> 1:30:43
He did optical density measurements of the JFK x-rays,
1582
1:30:43 --> 1:30:46
and he proved that the three that remain
1583
1:30:46 --> 1:30:49
were all forged to mask evidence of frontal shots.
1584
1:30:49 --> 1:30:52
And he identified clear evidence of two frontal shots.
1585
1:30:52 --> 1:30:53
And it's indisputable.
1586
1:30:53 --> 1:30:55
The book has been out since March 8th,
1587
1:30:55 --> 1:31:00
and no one has attempted to refute it, because they can't.
1588
1:31:00 --> 1:31:02
It's scientific evidence.
1589
1:31:02 --> 1:31:04
It's CSI quality evidence.
1590
1:31:04 --> 1:31:06
A JFK was shot twice in the front,
1591
1:31:06 --> 1:31:08
and you can see the evidence in the x-rays.
1592
1:31:08 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ually see one of the bullet fragment trails
1593
1:31:12 --> 1:31:13
across the top of its head that entered
1594
1:31:13 --> 1:31:16
at his forehead above his right eye.
1595
1:31:16 --> 1:31:18
And it's unmistakable.
1596
1:31:18 --> 1:31:20
What you've got is also unmistakable.
1597
1:31:20 --> 1:31:24
They will not give you the intelligence reports
1598
1:31:24 --> 1:31:27
where they knew that this was harmful.
1599
1:31:27 --> 1:31:31
You've got dozens now of reports from Pfizer, Moderna,
1600
1:31:31 --> 1:31:32
and the others being released,
1601
1:31:32 --> 1:31:36
where they suppressed the extreme events
1602
1:31:36 --> 1:31:38
that were occurring in their pre-trials.
1603
1:31:38 --> 1:31:41
They didn't conduct their pre-trials
1604
1:31:41 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction] procedures,
1605
1:31:42 --> 1:31:45
because they operated under emergency operation
1606
1:31:45 --> 1:31:47
or operation protocols.
1607
1:31:47 --> 1:31:50
Expose all these things.
1608
1:31:50 --> 1:31:[privacy contact redaction]ured a bio weapon
1609
1:31:55 --> 1:31:57
where they've injected the spike protein,
1610
1:31:57 --> 1:32:02
the glycoprotein 120 of COVID-19 into your cells,
1611
1:32:04 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]icate the spike protein.
1612
1:32:10 --> 1:32:12
And it passes through your entire body,
1613
1:32:13 --> 1:32:17
and there's no mechanism to turn off the RNA.
1614
1:32:17 --> 1:32:20
Eventually that RNA will modify your DNA.
1615
1:32:21 --> 1:32:24
Eventually it'll kill you one way or the other,
1616
1:32:24 --> 1:32:28
depending upon your morbidity and depending upon your age.
1617
1:32:28 --> 1:32:31
It will hit your lungs or your heart,
1618
1:32:31 --> 1:32:33
or it'll form blood clots.
1619
1:32:33 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction]ion in the body.
1620
1:32:36 --> 1:32:40
And it all comes from patents that Fauci and the others held
1621
1:32:41 --> 1:32:46
at these NIH and the CDC,
1622
1:32:46 --> 1:32:48
and they get paid on these.
1623
1:32:48 --> 1:32:51
So you've got plenty to expose here,
1624
1:32:53 --> 1:32:[privacy contact redaction] defense you can wage.
1625
1:32:56 --> 1:32:57
You will not-
1626
1:32:57 --> 1:32:58
Absolutely, and I agree.
1627
1:32:58 --> 1:33:01
So Jerome, what you're saying, I think,
1628
1:33:01 --> 1:33:03
it's not obvious to a lot of people,
1629
1:33:03 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] an enormous amount of power at the moment,
1630
1:33:06 --> 1:33:08
Kirk, potential power,
1631
1:33:08 --> 1:33:11
but they want to put you in prison, yes,
1632
1:33:11 --> 1:33:14
they want to put you in prison, but with minimum fuss.
1633
1:33:14 --> 1:33:18
So they're hesitating, weighing up,
1634
1:33:18 --> 1:33:19
what are the risks for them?
1635
1:33:19 --> 1:33:22
You need to increase the risks
1636
1:33:22 --> 1:33:25
by being as courageous as you possibly can.
1637
1:33:25 --> 1:33:26
We will all support you,
1638
1:33:26 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]e outside this group
1639
1:33:30 --> 1:33:32
who can support you too.
1640
1:33:32 --> 1:33:34
But we could assemble a wonderful team
1641
1:33:34 --> 1:33:36
of expert witnesses for you,
1642
1:33:36 --> 1:33:38
like Asukarit Bhakhti, Mike Eden.
1643
1:33:38 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction]n't asked them, but I'm sure they would help out,
1644
1:33:40 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] them.
1645
1:33:42 --> 1:33:45
Robert Malone, Peter McCalla, all these doctors,
1646
1:33:45 --> 1:33:48
Harvey Reisch, they would all come forward to support you.
1647
1:33:50 --> 1:33:50
And-
1648
1:33:50 --> 1:33:52
I appreciate that, thank you guys.
1649
1:33:52 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] a website,
1650
1:33:56 --> 1:33:[privacy contact redaction] a
1651
1:34:00 --> 1:34:02
Gifts and Go donation site.
1652
1:34:02 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]arted writing
1653
1:34:06 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]ory.
1654
1:34:08 --> 1:34:12
I've kind of, it's been a struggle
1655
1:34:12 --> 1:34:15
trying to continue to write.
1656
1:34:15 --> 1:34:18
It's not a, I mean, I think I'm pretty good at it.
1657
1:34:18 --> 1:34:19
I think the two or three articles
1658
1:34:19 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction]ack are okay.
1659
1:34:22 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction], it's not easy for me to sit down and do that.
1660
1:34:27 --> 1:34:31
It takes a long time to kind of put something out.
1661
1:34:32 --> 1:34:36
But I'll just be more diligent about doing that.
1662
1:34:36 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction] spring-
1663
1:34:38 --> 1:34:41
Advice on that is don't be a perfectionist.
1664
1:34:41 --> 1:34:42
Okay.
1665
1:34:42 --> 1:34:45
And don't make everyone in your articles
1666
1:34:45 --> 1:34:[privacy contact redaction], footnoted and medically correct.
1667
1:34:50 --> 1:34:52
Begin to say some outrageous things.
1668
1:34:52 --> 1:34:55
It's easier to just express what you're feeling.
1669
1:34:55 --> 1:34:57
This is outrageous, why are they doing this?
1670
1:34:57 --> 1:34:59
They're doing this because they're the criminals.
1671
1:34:59 --> 1:35:02
They're doing this because they know the effects.
1672
1:35:02 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]rong,
1673
1:35:03 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction] time to write.
1674
1:35:07 --> 1:35:08
Yeah, okay.
1675
1:35:08 --> 1:35:10
Yeah, you can write everything.
1676
1:35:10 --> 1:35:13
So I really recommend Kirk that you watch
1677
1:35:13 --> 1:35:17
and everyone on the meeting now,
1678
1:35:17 --> 1:35:20
that they watch the C-SPAN-
1679
1:35:20 --> 1:35:22
Why don't you put that in the,
1680
1:35:22 --> 1:35:24
I don't even have the URL for that myself.
1681
1:35:24 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]n't got it with me now.
1682
1:35:25 --> 1:35:28
So can someone research that while we're talking?
1683
1:35:28 --> 1:35:30
Yeah, it was on C-SPAN.
1684
1:35:30 --> 1:35:32
I'll take a look back and see if I can find it.
1685
1:35:32 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]rength, I think Kirk.
1686
1:35:37 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction]e to us all there.
1687
1:35:40 --> 1:35:[privacy contact redaction] confronted his own government
1688
1:35:43 --> 1:35:45
and essentially made them afraid of him.
1689
1:35:46 --> 1:35:49
Well, I've been confronting them for 20 years.
1690
1:35:49 --> 1:35:53
John Kerry and Swift Boat and Obama's birth certificate.
1691
1:35:53 --> 1:35:55
We found the birth certificate
1692
1:35:55 --> 1:35:58
from which Obama's was cloned and was validated by-
1693
1:35:58 --> 1:35:59
Where was he born?
1694
1:35:59 --> 1:36:00
Jerome-
1695
1:36:00 --> 1:36:02
I don't know where he was born.
1696
1:36:02 --> 1:36:06
I don't know to be honest with you.
1697
1:36:06 --> 1:36:07
I found all kinds of things.
1698
1:36:07 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]s from the Hawaii,
1699
1:36:11 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]e who landed in Hawaii
1700
1:36:14 --> 1:36:16
in these years, 1960 and 61.
1701
1:36:16 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction] from the months in which
1702
1:36:20 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction] arrived,
1703
1:36:23 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction] been born,
1704
1:36:25 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]s are all missing.
1705
1:36:28 --> 1:36:29
And I went to the archives and said,
1706
1:36:29 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]s missing?
1707
1:36:30 --> 1:36:31
They're the only ones missing.
1708
1:36:31 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]aining that those were missing.
1709
1:36:34 --> 1:36:34
They didn't have them.
1710
1:36:34 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]s.
1711
1:36:37 --> 1:36:39
And that's clearly indication to me
1712
1:36:39 --> 1:36:41
of an intelligence operation.
1713
1:36:41 --> 1:36:43
I think he was born in Indonesia myself.
1714
1:36:43 --> 1:36:45
I think he's Indonesian, not African.
1715
1:36:47 --> 1:36:50
I think he is Sabud.
1716
1:36:50 --> 1:36:52
I've got to research Sabud and look him up.
1717
1:36:52 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction]ures of Sabud and Obama
1718
1:36:54 --> 1:36:[privacy contact redaction] frighteningly identical.
1719
1:36:58 --> 1:37:01
But let me see if I can find the C-span.
1720
1:37:01 --> 1:37:04
So that could make him a Muslim.
1721
1:37:05 --> 1:37:08
He did attend school in Indonesia,
1722
1:37:08 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ered as a Muslim.
1723
1:37:09 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]s.
1724
1:37:11 --> 1:37:12
Wow.
1725
1:37:12 --> 1:37:15
I published a lot on Obama over the years
1726
1:37:15 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]ory is like a CIA legend.
1727
1:37:19 --> 1:37:21
Nothing he says about himself is true.
1728
1:37:21 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]eams for my father,
1729
1:37:24 --> 1:37:26
it's all made up, it's all fantasy.
1730
1:37:26 --> 1:37:27
Wow.
1731
1:37:28 --> 1:37:30
He wasn't.
1732
1:37:30 --> 1:37:32
Okay, but I'll look for this and I'll come back.
1733
1:37:32 --> 1:37:34
That's everything I have.
1734
1:37:34 --> 1:37:35
Can I ask you?
1735
1:37:35 --> 1:37:37
Yeah, I don't need to take up any more time.
1736
1:37:37 --> 1:37:38
There's others with questions, yes.
1737
1:37:38 --> 1:37:42
Jerome, we'd really like to hear about the voting fraud
1738
1:37:42 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]uff that you've touched on now.
1739
1:37:45 --> 1:37:47
And I've got a slot on Tuesday.
1740
1:37:47 --> 1:37:49
Are you able to fill it or not?
1741
1:37:49 --> 1:37:53
Yes, I think, let me see if I can get Andrew Paquette
1742
1:37:53 --> 1:37:[privacy contact redaction]
1743
1:37:55 --> 1:37:58
And I'll ask him, we'll take the slot on Tuesday.
1744
1:37:58 --> 1:38:00
Who's Andrew Paquette?
1745
1:38:00 --> 1:38:02
He's the guy who figured it out.
1746
1:38:02 --> 1:38:04
Oh, right, okay, very good.
1747
1:38:04 --> 1:38:06
Yes, that'd be great, Jerome.
1748
1:38:06 --> 1:38:10
So this Tuesday in two days time is free at the moment.
1749
1:38:10 --> 1:38:12
Okay, well, I'll set up to take it.
1750
1:38:12 --> 1:38:13
Okay, thank you.
1751
1:38:14 --> 1:38:15
All right, Glenn.
1752
1:38:20 --> 1:38:21
Hi, Kurt.
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1:38:22 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction] off, we clearly, well, it seems to me
1754
1:38:26 --> 1:38:30
we are dealing with a fully weaponized government
1755
1:38:30 --> 1:38:30
at this point.
1756
1:38:31 --> 1:38:33
Do you disagree with that in any fashion?
1757
1:38:33 --> 1:38:35
No, not at all.
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1:38:35 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]
1759
1:38:40 --> 1:38:[privacy contact redaction]ion, that there's probably no hope
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1:38:44 --> 1:38:46
for you avoiding jail.
1761
1:38:46 --> 1:38:47
Would you agree with that?
1762
1:38:47 --> 1:38:49
I wouldn't.
1763
1:38:49 --> 1:38:50
Okay, so.
1764
1:38:52 --> 1:38:53
And when you speak to the current government,
1765
1:38:53 --> 1:38:55
you're talking about the current administration.
1766
1:38:55 --> 1:38:58
I'm talking about the current Biden administration, yes.
1767
1:38:58 --> 1:38:59
Okay.
1768
1:39:04 --> 1:39:06
They've clearly completely distorted everything
1769
1:39:06 --> 1:39:10
around how trials are done, how law is applied,
1770
1:39:10 --> 1:39:14
how judges operate because they've bought them out.
1771
1:39:14 --> 1:39:15
Right.
1772
1:39:15 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]
1773
1:39:18 --> 1:39:22
And while Jerome will talk about it being
1774
1:39:22 --> 1:39:25
intelligent operations, I'm gonna be more specific.
1775
1:39:25 --> 1:39:28
We agree around it being the evil elite.
1776
1:39:28 --> 1:39:32
I'm just very specific in saying it's George Soros
1777
1:39:33 --> 1:39:36
in combination with the Rockefeller family.
1778
1:39:36 --> 1:39:38
That they're at the top of it all,
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1:39:38 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction] everything.
1780
1:39:40 --> 1:39:45
So yes, there's a variety of intel that are complicit in it,
1781
1:39:45 --> 1:39:47
but they aren't driving this bus.
1782
1:39:48 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]iving this bus.
1783
1:39:50 --> 1:39:[privacy contact redaction]ration,
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1:39:55 --> 1:40:00
a righteous one based on President Trump,
1785
1:40:00 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]etely dismantle a network
1786
1:40:03 --> 1:40:06
that they've been putting together for over 150 years.
1787
1:40:06 --> 1:40:10
So they are gonna put every single weapon they have,
1788
1:40:11 --> 1:40:13
tens of billions, if not hitting toward trillions,
1789
1:40:13 --> 1:40:15
to prevent that from happening.
1790
1:40:16 --> 1:40:21
So I agree with Jerome saying the only hope is around
1791
1:40:23 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]e to join in.
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1:40:26 --> 1:40:30
And to some extent, with things you do,
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1:40:30 --> 1:40:32
joining in with other things.
1794
1:40:32 --> 1:40:35
And that some part of that really needs to be thinking
1795
1:40:35 --> 1:40:39
in terms of how do we get to November?
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1:40:39 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]ion to occur?
1797
1:40:42 --> 1:40:47
And that's the space that the team I'm in,
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1:40:47 --> 1:40:49
the American Patriot Civil Defense Net
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1:40:49 --> 1:40:54
is doing a lot of focused work around enabling the public
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1:40:55 --> 1:40:[privacy contact redaction]art working
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1:40:57 --> 1:40:59
with their local law enforcement.
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1:40:59 --> 1:41:00
That if they don't start going
1803
1:41:00 --> 1:41:02
and talking to their police chiefs,
1804
1:41:02 --> 1:41:05
if they don't start going and talking to their board of eds
1805
1:41:05 --> 1:41:08
around the safety level of their school,
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1:41:09 --> 1:41:12
the safety level of their school,
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1:41:12 --> 1:41:14
they don't talk to their selectman,
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1:41:15 --> 1:41:17
they're going to be in the same boat
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1:41:17 --> 1:41:20
as everything else that's going on.
1810
1:41:20 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ates will lose its last chance
1811
1:41:24 --> 1:41:25
of having a righteous government
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1:41:25 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]em
1813
1:41:29 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] of the English speaking world is in.
1814
1:41:33 --> 1:41:38
So I point this out in part,
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1:41:40 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]e get sort of settled
1816
1:41:43 --> 1:41:45
into their comfort zone
1817
1:41:45 --> 1:41:48
and the things that they know they can do well,
1818
1:41:48 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction]ay with them.
1819
1:41:50 --> 1:41:51
And as Jerome has said,
1820
1:41:51 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] to be breaking out
1821
1:41:54 --> 1:41:[privacy contact redaction] to do some extra things
1822
1:41:57 --> 1:42:01
that don't necessarily fit our best skills
1823
1:42:02 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] save us.
1824
1:42:06 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction]e of weeks ago,
1825
1:42:10 --> 1:42:12
Jim Thorpe was on
1826
1:42:12 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] following through
1827
1:42:17 --> 1:42:19
with some of the medical things that he has done
1828
1:42:19 --> 1:42:24
and the attack on women in fertility in humanity,
1829
1:42:25 --> 1:42:28
while that's a very noble task,
1830
1:42:28 --> 1:42:31
it's one that he can't actually make any headway
1831
1:42:31 --> 1:42:34
unless we get a change of government.
1832
1:42:34 --> 1:42:36
And as such, I was encouraging him
1833
1:42:36 --> 1:42:40
to try to refocus his attention
1834
1:42:40 --> 1:42:44
either with helping to join into that effort
1835
1:42:44 --> 1:42:49
to make sure that we get a reasonable election this year
1836
1:42:49 --> 1:42:[privacy contact redaction] a government
1837
1:42:50 --> 1:42:52
we can work with next year
1838
1:42:52 --> 1:42:55
where many, many, many follow through things can happen then.
1839
1:42:55 --> 1:42:57
He got back to me a few days later and said,
1840
1:42:57 --> 1:43:01
no, sorry, that doesn't seem to my area of focus.
1841
1:43:01 --> 1:43:04
And he's clearly a very righteous man.
1842
1:43:05 --> 1:43:08
I've known him for several years.
1843
1:43:08 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] say he's controlled.
1844
1:43:11 --> 1:43:13
He's mind controlled.
1845
1:43:13 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]e
1846
1:43:15 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]erize as we feel are aware
1847
1:43:19 --> 1:43:21
and are awake to a variety of the things,
1848
1:43:21 --> 1:43:22
but not to all of them.
1849
1:43:22 --> 1:43:25
And as such, too many people, again,
1850
1:43:25 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]uck in their comfort zone
1851
1:43:28 --> 1:43:29
and aren't ready to break out of it
1852
1:43:29 --> 1:43:31
because this is that moment.
1853
1:43:31 --> 1:43:34
This is that spiritual turning point.
1854
1:43:34 --> 1:43:38
This is the same kind of thing as the book of Esther,
1855
1:43:38 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction]her had to, I mean, she was a queen.
1856
1:43:41 --> 1:43:44
She didn't have to risk her own life
1857
1:43:44 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] of the Jews.
1858
1:43:47 --> 1:43:48
She was a queen.
1859
1:43:48 --> 1:43:48
She was a queen.
1860
1:43:49 --> 1:43:[privacy contact redaction] of the Jews, but she did.
1861
1:43:53 --> 1:43:56
And she went in and twice risked her life.
1862
1:43:56 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] time
1863
1:44:00 --> 1:44:05
and then second time once he had some degree of favor
1864
1:44:05 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]ual evil ones were
1865
1:44:08 --> 1:44:13
so that they both could be blocked
1866
1:44:13 --> 1:44:15
from having extra control from the king
1867
1:44:15 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction]y
1868
1:44:18 --> 1:44:[privacy contact redaction] them.
1869
1:44:22 --> 1:44:24
Okay, thank you, Glenn.
1870
1:44:24 --> 1:44:25
Well said.
1871
1:44:27 --> 1:44:28
Anders, then Marv.
1872
1:44:30 --> 1:44:31
Good speech, Glenn.
1873
1:44:34 --> 1:44:37
Yes, hello, Kirk.
1874
1:44:40 --> 1:44:42
I don't know you don't me.
1875
1:44:42 --> 1:44:44
I'm a Norwegian researcher.
1876
1:44:44 --> 1:44:47
I spend a lot of time to try to figure out
1877
1:44:48 --> 1:44:52
what caused the excess mortality.
1878
1:44:52 --> 1:44:56
And I found that there are two main causes.
1879
1:44:56 --> 1:44:59
It's a vaccination of the Jabs
1880
1:44:59 --> 1:45:02
and it's also the radiation like Mark Steele said.
1881
1:45:02 --> 1:45:07
And I sent you an email with the, let's say, documentation
1882
1:45:09 --> 1:45:11
with a lot of references,
1883
1:45:11 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction] case.
1884
1:45:14 --> 1:45:17
So I didn't send you everything,
1885
1:45:17 --> 1:45:22
but let's say it has been established now as a fact
1886
1:45:22 --> 1:45:27
that these Jabs contains a lot of ingredients
1887
1:45:27 --> 1:45:30
which is not supposed to be there or told to be there
1888
1:45:30 --> 1:45:34
including graphene, titanium
1889
1:45:34 --> 1:45:39
and about 28 to 50 different chemicals.
1890
1:45:39 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction] of them
1891
1:45:42 --> 1:45:44
having a positive surface charge.
1892
1:45:44 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ric materials
1893
1:45:46 --> 1:45:51
and they are developing into antennas, electrical antennas
1894
1:45:52 --> 1:45:56
which are causing radiation damage.
1895
1:45:56 --> 1:45:[privacy contact redaction]ablished that evidence
1896
1:45:59 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]s
1897
1:46:03 --> 1:46:06
without the radiation, they do not die.
1898
1:46:06 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction]us, for example,
1899
1:46:11 --> 1:46:15
during the COVID era, unless they put on the 5G.
1900
1:46:15 --> 1:46:20
So these are, let's say targeted weapons systems,
1901
1:46:20 --> 1:46:22
biological, synthetical,
1902
1:46:22 --> 1:46:27
and these are correlated to these poisons
1903
1:46:27 --> 1:46:31
and these poisoning are described what it is.
1904
1:46:31 --> 1:46:34
And we are now doing some clinical research
1905
1:46:34 --> 1:46:38
with a double-blinded study and we are going into
1906
1:46:38 --> 1:46:41
and we are unfortunately finding that these toxins
1907
1:46:41 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] in the blood of the Vax
1908
1:46:45 --> 1:46:48
but also in a lot of others coming from other sources.
1909
1:46:48 --> 1:46:[privacy contact redaction] a look into my email.
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1:46:55 --> 1:47:00
It's a document about 25 pages including references.
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1:47:00 --> 1:47:04
And I don't want to go into the virus discussion here
1912
1:47:04 --> 1:47:08
but there are references there into that subject as well.
1913
1:47:08 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] year
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1:47:13 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] case about that there is no evidence
1915
1:47:18 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]s.
1916
1:47:21 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]udy recently here
1917
1:47:25 --> 1:47:29
where these are confirmed, let's say in a new American study
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1:47:29 --> 1:47:33
that the control group of the,
1919
1:47:33 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]udy of control groups proves that these
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1:47:38 --> 1:47:43
so-called spike proteins or different types of viruses
1921
1:47:43 --> 1:47:48
are appearing without entering any foreign material.
1922
1:47:48 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction] mentioning that.
1923
1:47:51 --> 1:47:[privacy contact redaction]ions had no purpose of any good.
1924
1:47:57 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction] case in USA,
1925
1:48:02 --> 1:48:07
week or two ago, which says that there is no Pfizer,
1926
1:48:07 --> 1:48:10
et cetera, never claimed that they were going to prevent
1927
1:48:10 --> 1:48:13
the spread of the virus or whatever.
1928
1:48:13 --> 1:48:18
So I was sitting here with my brother and chatting
1929
1:48:18 --> 1:48:22
and let's say it's kind of incredible situation
1930
1:48:22 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction],
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1:48:25 --> 1:48:30
in Sweden, in Germany, the doctors who are taken to court
1932
1:48:30 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction] ones and the criminal ones,
1933
1:48:33 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction] all others, they are off the hook.
1934
1:48:39 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]or in Sicily in my hometown
1935
1:48:43 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]ion to my mother
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1:48:46 --> 1:48:49
in September, 2021, he's off.
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1:48:50 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction] the second Pfizer shot to my best friend
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1:48:54 --> 1:48:[privacy contact redaction]roke three days after he's off.
1939
1:48:58 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]anations that they have a,
1940
1:49:01 --> 1:49:04
didn't take the blood thinner or whatever.
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1:49:04 --> 1:49:05
Yes.
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1:49:05 --> 1:49:06
So I'm just saying it.
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1:49:06 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] friend, he took the third, the second Pfizer shot.
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1:49:11 --> 1:49:16
He held his mobile phone to his ears outside his house
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1:49:16 --> 1:49:18
and he's falling down, getting a stroke.
1946
1:49:20 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] day after the Pfizer shot,
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1:49:23 --> 1:49:25
having the phone to the head.
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1:49:27 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction] a lot of evidence
1949
1:49:30 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]romagnetic devices.
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1:49:37 --> 1:49:42
The LED light, the street light, the car light,
1951
1:49:42 --> 1:49:[privacy contact redaction]ric cars, all type of radiation,
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1:49:48 --> 1:49:52
low, medium, high frequencies are interacting
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1:49:52 --> 1:49:55
with these magnetic materials,
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1:49:55 --> 1:50:00
which are the causation of so many harm.
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1:50:00 --> 1:50:03
It is not, I don't believe in this story
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1:50:03 --> 1:50:04
with the spike protein.
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1:50:04 --> 1:50:05
It's dead cells.
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1:50:05 --> 1:50:06
Hang on, Anders, Anders, Anders.
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1:50:06 --> 1:50:09
What is the point of Kirk's position?
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1:50:10 --> 1:50:12
Please look into the evidence.
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1:50:12 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]ions, I have a lot more.
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1:50:15 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction]
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1:50:18 --> 1:50:20
to prove that you did the right thing
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1:50:20 --> 1:50:21
not to give this shit.
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1:50:23 --> 1:50:25
Nicely, that's what I nicely said.
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1:50:25 --> 1:50:27
You did the right thing not to give this shit.
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1:50:28 --> 1:50:30
Okay, thank you, Anders.
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1:50:30 --> 1:50:32
So Anders is another resource for you, Kirk,
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1:50:32 --> 1:50:33
in terms of the dangers.
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1:50:33 --> 1:50:34
Let's move on to-
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1:50:34 --> 1:50:35
Yeah, I'll look for my emails.
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1:50:35 --> 1:50:37
I've had a lot of people tell me that they've emailed me
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1:50:37 --> 1:50:42
and I've been trying to keep track of the chat as well
1974
1:50:42 --> 1:50:[privacy contact redaction] to go back through it
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1:50:45 --> 1:50:47
to try to find everybody's, but thank you.
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1:50:48 --> 1:50:49
Thank you, Anders.
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1:50:49 --> 1:50:51
Okay, Marv and then Stephen, we'll go to you.
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1:50:51 --> 1:50:53
We've got half an hour left.
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1:50:53 --> 1:50:56
Hey, yeah, way to go, Kirk.
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1:50:56 --> 1:50:58
I spent in the 60s,
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1:50:58 --> 1:51:02
I was in a University of Utah graduate school
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1:51:02 --> 1:51:[privacy contact redaction]opped out.
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1:51:05 --> 1:51:10
Where is your, where and when is your training
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1:51:10 --> 1:51:11
and what are you charged with?
1985
1:51:11 --> 1:51:13
Is it fraud?
1986
1:51:13 --> 1:51:15
Is that one count of fraud?
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1:51:15 --> 1:51:20
So it's, well, it's 1,936 or 37 counts of fraud,
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1:51:21 --> 1:51:25
conspiracy because it was three or four of us
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1:51:25 --> 1:51:30
that were involved in it and counterfeiting.
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1:51:30 --> 1:51:35
So it's 18 USC 371 and then 18 USC 271.
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1:51:35 --> 1:51:40
371 and then 18 USC 641 and 642.
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1:51:46 --> 1:51:49
And it's in January, your trials in January?
1993
1:51:49 --> 1:51:52
January 15th is the scheduled trial date right now, yes.
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1:51:54 --> 1:51:59
And Marv, just one second, did you hear Len's comment,
1995
1:52:00 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]ing, Kirk,
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1:52:04 --> 1:52:05
I don't know whether you were here
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1:52:05 --> 1:52:07
when Glenn made the comment
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1:52:07 --> 1:52:10
that there's going to be procedural applications
1999
1:52:10 --> 1:52:11
left, right and center.
2000
1:52:11 --> 1:52:14
They, you know, that I don't want this actually
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1:52:14 --> 1:52:15
to go to trial, but anyway, keep going, Marv.
2002
1:52:15 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction] thought I'd repeat that
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1:52:17 --> 1:52:20
because I think that's a very interesting angle.
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1:52:21 --> 1:52:24
Yeah, is it in Salt Lake City?
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1:52:24 --> 1:52:24
Yes.
2006
1:52:24 --> 1:52:25
Yeah.
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1:52:27 --> 1:52:28
Thanks.
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1:52:28 --> 1:52:29
You put it in your diary, Marv.
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1:52:34 --> 1:52:36
Have another skiing trip.
2010
1:52:37 --> 1:52:39
Yeah, you could have another ski.
2011
1:52:39 --> 1:52:41
Give Utah a chance, Marv.
2012
1:52:43 --> 1:52:44
All right.
2013
1:52:44 --> 1:52:[privacy contact redaction]ephen, next 15 minutes is yours.
2014
1:52:48 --> 1:52:53
Yeah, so Kirk, please don't say anything
2015
1:52:55 --> 1:53:00
that might prejudice your safety in this criminal trial.
2016
1:53:00 --> 1:53:04
So, but I just wondered if you could maybe,
2017
1:53:07 --> 1:53:09
you said, you kind of suggested
2018
1:53:09 --> 1:53:11
that maybe it wasn't in your interest.
2019
1:53:11 --> 1:53:13
And I took that to mean that you were worried,
2020
1:53:13 --> 1:53:17
not for yourself, but worried for, you know,
2021
1:53:17 --> 1:53:21
future lawyers, maybe that you felt
2022
1:53:21 --> 1:53:23
that you didn't want to talk
2023
1:53:23 --> 1:53:25
about how the situation came about.
2024
1:53:27 --> 1:53:28
Would I be right in thinking that
2025
1:53:29 --> 1:53:34
or are you able to discuss?
2026
1:53:34 --> 1:53:38
So for me, so I want to believe
2027
1:53:40 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction]e as possible
2028
1:53:46 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction] the jab,
2029
1:53:47 --> 1:53:50
that some of them were absolutely adamant,
2030
1:53:50 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction] your patients,
2031
1:53:52 --> 1:53:54
even when you told them that it was dangerous
2032
1:53:54 --> 1:53:[privacy contact redaction] of it, you know,
2033
1:53:55 --> 1:53:57
they were adamant that they wanted the jab.
2034
1:53:57 --> 1:54:01
And you thought, I don't know,
2035
1:54:01 --> 1:54:04
you don't have to tell me what,
2036
1:54:04 --> 1:54:06
but you thought to yourself, well,
2037
1:54:06 --> 1:54:10
if some of them don't have the jab, you know,
2038
1:54:10 --> 1:54:13
but I've told them obviously that I wouldn't recommend it
2039
1:54:13 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]ill want it, you know,
2040
1:54:17 --> 1:54:19
but you thought to yourself that in the long run,
2041
1:54:19 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]e
2042
1:54:22 --> 1:54:26
by taking that as a hit, you know?
2043
1:54:26 --> 1:54:29
So the possibility of criticism in the future
2044
1:54:29 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]e who didn't want,
2045
1:54:34 --> 1:54:36
they were the ones who really needed protection,
2046
1:54:36 --> 1:54:40
the ones who didn't want to go along with this nonsense
2047
1:54:40 --> 1:54:42
and felt really, really strongly about it.
2048
1:54:42 --> 1:54:46
So, and especially when you told them that nobody knew,
2049
1:54:46 --> 1:54:[privacy contact redaction]or in the world knew what was in the jabs
2050
1:54:48 --> 1:54:51
and I worked that out very quickly.
2051
1:54:51 --> 1:54:55
And so I was saying that there was no possibility
2052
1:54:55 --> 1:54:58
of informed consent being obtained by any doctor
2053
1:54:58 --> 1:55:01
in the world because the patient couldn't possibly say
2054
1:55:01 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction]or could either.
2055
1:55:05 --> 1:55:10
So in my mind, it seems to me that you couldn't have done
2056
1:55:10 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction]e who didn't,
2057
1:55:14 --> 1:55:16
who really didn't want it.
2058
1:55:16 --> 1:55:19
And that's why they came to you, a lot of them, presumably.
2059
1:55:19 --> 1:55:22
You couldn't help them if you didn't take the hit
2060
1:55:23 --> 1:55:27
and look as though you were going to give the jabs.
2061
1:55:29 --> 1:55:34
And, but then you, and then your clinic
2062
1:55:34 --> 1:55:[privacy contact redaction]ing these people.
2063
1:55:40 --> 1:55:43
But I can see that you needed the kind of,
2064
1:55:43 --> 1:55:46
because if you didn't do that, then you had no cover
2065
1:55:46 --> 1:55:47
and you'd be blown out of the wall.
2066
1:55:47 --> 1:55:50
You wouldn't be able to help as many people as you did.
2067
1:55:50 --> 1:55:51
So is that a fair assessment
2068
1:55:51 --> 1:55:54
without you saying anything or not?
2069
1:55:55 --> 1:56:00
Yes, it was basically an opportunity for patients of mine
2070
1:56:08 --> 1:56:13
to get a treatment or not a treatment based upon
2071
1:56:16 --> 1:56:18
what their perceived risks were
2072
1:56:18 --> 1:56:22
and my perceived risk and benefits were regarding
2073
1:56:22 --> 1:56:27
the medication or the vaccine or the bio-weapon.
2074
1:56:28 --> 1:56:33
And it was, nobody got a treatment that they didn't want
2075
1:56:39 --> 1:56:41
or that they didn't agree with.
2076
1:56:42 --> 1:56:[privacy contact redaction]ications from coming in
2077
1:56:47 --> 1:56:49
to see me in my office.
2078
1:56:50 --> 1:56:51
Yep.
2079
1:56:51 --> 1:56:55
I guess that's kind of the best way that I can.
2080
1:56:56 --> 1:57:00
But you can see what Jerry was kind of focusing on.
2081
1:57:00 --> 1:57:04
He was saying in his mind, it was wrong to give,
2082
1:57:04 --> 1:57:05
yeah, I can see that.
2083
1:57:07 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]ually it seems to me that you couldn't have helped
2084
1:57:10 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]e as you did help.
2085
1:57:13 --> 1:57:17
If even after you had told them that,
2086
1:57:17 --> 1:57:19
look, we don't know what's in these things,
2087
1:57:19 --> 1:57:20
they could be dangerous,
2088
1:57:20 --> 1:57:22
and we don't even know that they work
2089
1:57:24 --> 1:57:26
and there's all this censorship.
2090
1:57:26 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction] kind of told them what you knew
2091
1:57:30 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]ill they wanted it because they were in a cult.
2092
1:57:33 --> 1:57:36
And so you could argue, well, what do I do now?
2093
1:57:36 --> 1:57:38
What's the ethical thing to do?
2094
1:57:38 --> 1:57:41
And I can see there's a real moral dilemma there
2095
1:57:41 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]ually if you say, right,
2096
1:57:43 --> 1:57:45
I'm not gonna inject anybody,
2097
1:57:45 --> 1:57:48
then bang, away goes the opportunity
2098
1:57:48 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]e
2099
1:57:49 --> 1:57:53
who really, really don't want to be vaccinated.
2100
1:57:53 --> 1:57:[privacy contact redaction]e like me
2101
1:57:56 --> 1:57:58
and many others in this group.
2102
1:58:04 --> 1:58:07
I can see that there's a huge moral dilemma.
2103
1:58:07 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]ore it another time
2104
1:58:09 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]n't got an indictment hanging over you.
2105
1:58:14 --> 1:58:19
Yeah, it's just a fine line of discussion
2106
1:58:21 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]ly, I see exactly what Jerry's saying.
2107
1:58:26 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction], shape or form offended by him
2108
1:58:33 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]ions.
2109
1:58:35 --> 1:58:35
Yeah, I understand.
2110
1:58:35 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]ing
2111
1:58:39 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]ic surgeon.
2112
1:58:43 --> 1:58:48
So how did you come to be putting yourself out as a GP?
2113
1:58:48 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]and that
2114
1:58:51 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]e were desperate to speak to any doctor
2115
1:58:54 --> 1:58:[privacy contact redaction]worthy onside or whatever.
2116
1:58:59 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]inary times.
2117
1:59:01 --> 1:59:04
It's not every day that the world is,
2118
1:59:05 --> 1:59:08
well, there was a global coup d'etat in March, 2020.
2119
1:59:09 --> 1:59:12
And that's absolutely, and it was definitely planned.
2120
1:59:13 --> 1:59:18
So they used the Trojan horse of a medical emergency
2121
1:59:19 --> 1:59:22
when there was no emergency to impose.
2122
1:59:22 --> 1:59:24
To me-
2123
1:59:24 --> 1:59:27
To impose totalitarianism, that's how I read it.
2124
1:59:27 --> 1:59:28
Yeah, to me, Stephen, this was an extension
2125
1:59:28 --> 1:59:30
of what it was that I was already doing.
2126
1:59:30 --> 1:59:33
I was one of the only docs or one of the very few
2127
1:59:33 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]ually treating people
2128
1:59:37 --> 1:59:39
pre-hospitalization.
2129
1:59:39 --> 1:59:42
I wasn't somebody, I wasn't doing any testing.
2130
1:59:42 --> 1:59:45
I wasn't sending anybody down to get a nasal swab.
2131
1:59:45 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]e on the phone.
2132
1:59:47 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]e.
2133
1:59:49 --> 1:59:[privacy contact redaction]e come into my office
2134
1:59:51 --> 1:59:54
and I was treating them based upon symptoms,
2135
1:59:54 --> 1:59:56
which is what I'd always done in the past.
2136
1:59:57 --> 2:00:01
And the only difference is that now I'm treating people
2137
2:00:01 --> 2:00:06
for signs and symptoms and concerns that they had
2138
2:00:11 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]ing a flu-like illness, which in some capacity,
2139
2:00:17 --> 2:00:20
as you know, you always get that.
2140
2:00:20 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction] your, your sister will call you up and say,
2141
2:00:23 --> 2:00:24
hey, I got a throat infection.
2142
2:00:24 --> 2:00:26
Will you get me some antibiotics?
2143
2:00:26 --> 2:00:28
And it was kind of an extension of that.
2144
2:00:28 --> 2:00:31
The only difference is that I was treating
2145
2:00:31 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]e because nobody else was treating them.
2146
2:00:34 --> 2:00:39
And so they were coming to me because so and so's
2147
2:00:39 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction]er's neighbor came to me and told them.
2148
2:00:42 --> 2:00:[privacy contact redaction] me via group me or phone call
2149
2:00:46 --> 2:00:49
or text message or come into my office.
2150
2:00:49 --> 2:00:52
And so the COVID side of it or the jab side of it,
2151
2:00:52 --> 2:00:56
the bioweapon, the quote unquote vaccine,
2152
2:00:56 --> 2:00:57
it's not a vaccine.
2153
2:00:57 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction] came out with that
2154
2:01:00 --> 2:01:02
and said that this is not a vaccine.
2155
2:01:03 --> 2:01:04
It's a medical treatment.
2156
2:01:06 --> 2:01:07
And so.
2157
2:01:07 --> 2:01:08
And you did help them.
2158
2:01:08 --> 2:01:10
You didn't turn them away.
2159
2:01:10 --> 2:01:11
And that.
2160
2:01:11 --> 2:01:12
No, I didn't turn anybody away.
2161
2:01:13 --> 2:01:17
So you did what you provided comfort to these people
2162
2:01:17 --> 2:01:20
who needed advice, medical advice.
2163
2:01:20 --> 2:01:22
And that's exactly what a doctor should be doing.
2164
2:01:22 --> 2:01:25
He should be, you treated the patient in front of you
2165
2:01:25 --> 2:01:27
and you didn't dilute it in any way.
2166
2:01:27 --> 2:01:29
And whether you were right or wrong,
2167
2:01:29 --> 2:01:32
that's not the question because you're a plastic surgeon.
2168
2:01:32 --> 2:01:35
Yeah, you did qualify as a doctor once upon a time,
2169
2:01:35 --> 2:01:40
but you could be forgiven for getting things wrong
2170
2:01:40 --> 2:01:41
because you hadn't got the experience.
2171
2:01:41 --> 2:01:43
And you probably realized as well as I did
2172
2:01:43 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction]ors shouldn't be following protocols
2173
2:01:46 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction] been doing.
2174
2:01:48 --> 2:01:51
And that's exactly, you can't.
2175
2:01:51 --> 2:01:[privacy contact redaction],
2176
2:01:54 --> 2:01:58
without realizing it, not understood
2177
2:01:59 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]or can only operate if he or she is autonomous.
2178
2:02:04 --> 2:02:09
And that autonomy has been removed from doctors
2179
2:02:09 --> 2:02:11
so that medical ethics can be ignored.
2180
2:02:11 --> 2:02:16
And so the medical profession can be controlled
2181
2:02:17 --> 2:02:20
as a cult, if you like, just like Cordelia,
2182
2:02:20 --> 2:02:23
who's a pathologist by the way, the British pathologist
2183
2:02:23 --> 2:02:25
who got the job with the NHS,
2184
2:02:25 --> 2:02:27
but then she told them in the end
2185
2:02:27 --> 2:02:28
that she didn't want all these vaccinations
2186
2:02:28 --> 2:02:29
or even the risk of them.
2187
2:02:31 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]ors,
2188
2:02:34 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction]ice of medicine
2189
2:02:37 --> 2:02:40
through observing medical ethics as you did
2190
2:02:40 --> 2:02:43
was removed from them and they didn't even realize it.
2191
2:02:43 --> 2:02:46
They didn't understand that evidence-based medicine
2192
2:02:46 --> 2:02:48
was wrong and evidence-based medicine,
2193
2:02:48 --> 2:02:50
the whole idea behind evidence-based medicine
2194
2:02:50 --> 2:02:54
and the creation of virology and the decline of immunology
2195
2:02:54 --> 2:02:[privacy contact redaction], in my opinion,
2196
2:02:57 --> 2:03:00
so that they could do what they did in 2020.
2197
2:03:00 --> 2:03:02
Oh, I don't doubt it.
2198
2:03:02 --> 2:03:04
I think this has been a long time coming
2199
2:03:06 --> 2:03:11
and it was tried and true and done and perfected over time
2200
2:03:13 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]uff in the early 80s,
2201
2:03:18 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction] flu, to H1N1, to SARS1,
2202
2:03:24 --> 2:03:29
to all of them, they were all kind of just flags,
2203
2:03:30 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction] flags, balloons that were put up to see,
2204
2:03:32 --> 2:03:37
hey, how far can we go and what are we gonna be able to do?
2205
2:03:37 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]e get?
2206
2:03:40 --> 2:03:43
Look, 100 years ago, people didn't like vaccines.
2207
2:03:43 --> 2:03:47
150 years ago in the middle of the 1800s,
2208
2:03:48 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction] anything to do
2209
2:03:49 --> 2:03:50
with a smallpox vaccine.
2210
2:03:50 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]uff with vaccines,
2211
2:03:54 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction],
2212
2:03:56 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction] anything to do with them,
2213
2:03:57 --> 2:03:[privacy contact redaction]ive
2214
2:03:59 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]ive.
2215
2:04:02 --> 2:04:05
And then now over time, just with constant propaganda
2216
2:04:05 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]ant lying and scientific sleight of hand
2217
2:04:17 --> 2:04:22
and outright fraudulent data and papers
2218
2:04:22 --> 2:04:25
and things that are written in our journals,
2219
2:04:25 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]etely changed
2220
2:04:29 --> 2:04:31
to the point where even as physicians,
2221
2:04:31 --> 2:04:33
we don't question it.
2222
2:04:33 --> 2:04:36
Like I said, we go through medical school
2223
2:04:36 --> 2:04:38
and get 15 minutes of education on it.
2224
2:04:38 --> 2:04:39
Hey, they're safe and effective,
2225
2:04:39 --> 2:04:41
here's what we do, here's the program,
2226
2:04:41 --> 2:04:44
here's the childhood vaccination schedule,
2227
2:04:44 --> 2:04:46
and this is what you will follow
2228
2:04:46 --> 2:04:48
because everything behind this has all been proven
2229
2:04:48 --> 2:04:50
and you don't even need to look behind the curtain.
2230
2:04:51 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]art to raise that curtain
2231
2:04:52 --> 2:04:[privacy contact redaction]art looking at it and you see it,
2232
2:04:56 --> 2:04:59
I think it was at the bath conference
2233
2:04:59 --> 2:05:02
that Tess Laurie put on two years ago
2234
2:05:02 --> 2:05:05
and Del Bigtree was there and he got up on stage
2235
2:05:05 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]age
2236
2:05:06 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]ion, he said,
2237
2:05:08 --> 2:05:11
what do you guys, if you don't think you like COVID,
2238
2:05:11 --> 2:05:14
what do you think of the normal vaccine schedule?
2239
2:05:14 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction] everybody up there was not a vaccine skeptic
2240
2:05:18 --> 2:05:20
and you've seen that transition
2241
2:05:20 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]e.
2242
2:05:22 --> 2:05:24
Peter McCullough a year and a half ago, two years ago,
2243
2:05:24 --> 2:05:27
was not a vaccine skeptic and now he's going through it
2244
2:05:27 --> 2:05:28
and he's looking at it and he's saying,
2245
2:05:28 --> 2:05:32
hey, maybe these things aren't so good for you anymore.
2246
2:05:32 --> 2:05:34
He's doing the Harry Mullis thing
2247
2:05:34 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction] need to,
2248
2:05:38 --> 2:05:42
we need for it to happen much quicker, much faster
2249
2:05:43 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]e like me,
2250
2:05:48 --> 2:05:50
cause I know that there's more out there,
2251
2:05:51 --> 2:05:[privacy contact redaction]art pushing back
2252
2:05:54 --> 2:05:56
because if it doesn't, what's happening to me
2253
2:05:56 --> 2:05:58
is gonna happen to everybody else out there,
2254
2:05:58 --> 2:06:01
whether it's a month or 10 years from now.
2255
2:06:01 --> 2:06:02
Absolutely.
2256
2:06:02 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction] with it, then we are,
2257
2:06:04 --> 2:06:07
I mean, it's just, we have to stand up,
2258
2:06:07 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction] to not comply.
2259
2:06:10 --> 2:06:11
Absolutely, yeah.
2260
2:06:11 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction]e need to discover their courage
2261
2:06:17 --> 2:06:18
if they ever had any.
2262
2:06:18 --> 2:06:21
So I wanted to ask you, so Kirk,
2263
2:06:24 --> 2:06:25
do you think there was a pandemic?
2264
2:06:25 --> 2:06:28
It doesn't matter if you get the right or wrong
2265
2:06:28 --> 2:06:30
or whatever right and wrong is.
2266
2:06:30 --> 2:06:31
No, no.
2267
2:06:31 --> 2:06:34
Okay, and when did you realize that there was no pandemic?
2268
2:06:37 --> 2:06:42
Probably, what are we, June, July of 2024?
2269
2:06:43 --> 2:06:[privacy contact redaction], no pandemic by the end of,
2270
2:06:51 --> 2:06:53
by the middle, so two years ago,
2271
2:06:53 --> 2:06:54
maybe a little bit more than that.
2272
2:06:54 --> 2:06:55
Very good.
2273
2:06:55 --> 2:06:57
So if there was no pandemic,
2274
2:06:58 --> 2:07:00
then what we've gone through for the last four years
2275
2:07:00 --> 2:07:01
was a fraud, wasn't it?
2276
2:07:01 --> 2:07:03
The whole thing was a fraud.
2277
2:07:03 --> 2:07:03
Absolutely.
2278
2:07:03 --> 2:07:05
It wasn't just that there was no pandemic,
2279
2:07:05 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]
2280
2:07:08 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]
2281
2:07:09 --> 2:07:10
Yeah.
2282
2:07:10 --> 2:07:11
The whole thing.
2283
2:07:11 --> 2:07:14
And so bearing in mind, Kirk,
2284
2:07:14 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction], I've got limited time.
2285
2:07:15 --> 2:07:19
So bearing in mind that Kerry Mullis,
2286
2:07:19 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction] Kerry Mullis.
2287
2:07:21 --> 2:07:26
He was a genius on the level of Jerome, I'm joking.
2288
2:07:26 --> 2:07:29
No, no, Jerome is very, very clever.
2289
2:07:30 --> 2:07:34
But Kerry Mullis, he said,
2290
2:07:36 --> 2:07:37
so I think what you were saying,
2291
2:07:38 --> 2:07:43
the HIV virus is the probable cause of AIDS.
2292
2:07:44 --> 2:07:[privacy contact redaction]atement you were talking about.
2293
2:07:48 --> 2:07:49
So he wrote this,
2294
2:07:49 --> 2:07:53
the HIV virus is the probable cause of AIDS.
2295
2:07:53 --> 2:07:56
Now we won't go into whether viruses exist or not.
2296
2:07:56 --> 2:07:59
I'm sure you've heard about the discussion about that.
2297
2:07:59 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction], but so the HIV,
2298
2:08:03 --> 2:08:07
so he couldn't, he was a Nobel Prize winner,
2299
2:08:08 --> 2:08:11
in 1993, he got the Nobel Prize correctly, I think.
2300
2:08:11 --> 2:08:12
For the PCR.
2301
2:08:12 --> 2:08:17
Yeah, 1983, he invented, if you like,
2302
2:08:18 --> 2:08:22
the PCR technique, not the PCR test.
2303
2:08:22 --> 2:08:24
And he won the Nobel Prize 10 years later for that
2304
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He was an absolute genius.
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I don't know whether you've ever seen the wonderful video,
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I think it's on YouTube,
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of him talking about his school days
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when they were sending rockets up.
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2:08:39 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction] about, did you?
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No.
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The guy was a genius.
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2:08:45 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction], he ended up saying that Fauci
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doesn't know anything about anything.
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2:08:49 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction] seen that.
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2:08:51 --> 2:08:[privacy contact redaction] seen that.
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I'd say that to his face.
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Right.
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Yeah, I thought, I had really started to,
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I thought this is my kind of guy.
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2:08:58 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]arted trying to find everything I could
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about Kerry Mullis.
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But Kerry Mullis said that, you know, the test,
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2:09:09 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction], his technique should not be used
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2:09:12 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction]ess.
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Right.
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So, and that's exactly what they did.
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2:09:23 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction], 2019.
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2:09:27 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction], [privacy contact redaction]ances.
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And of course the temporary relationship
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of his death in 2019 and the beginning of this nonsense
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in the beginning of 2020, arguably before that,
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2:09:46 --> 2:09:[privacy contact redaction] too much of a coincidence.
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And another one I think they killed was Montagnier,
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who was speaking out in the turn.
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Yep.
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And we need to think about what-
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He won the Nobel Prize for HIV and then he gave it back.
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Yep, he did.
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He won the Nobel Prize.
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Did he give it back?
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I didn't know that.
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I'm pretty sure he gave it back
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because he had an ethical quandary with himself
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about he was wondering how much of it was really true.
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That's what I think and I might be wrong on that, but-
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So, well, that's very interesting.
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So Montagnier, maybe that was why he had to die.
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So he ended up saying in Milan when he was over 90,
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2:10:27 --> 2:10:[privacy contact redaction] a speech in February, I think it was of 2022,
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a week later he was dead.
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And he said, the unvaccinated will save humanity.
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Did you know that?
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No, I did not know that.
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Yeah, and some people think that that was why he had to die.
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Yeah, he was over 90, but still he was in,
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he was in fine voice that day when he was,
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okay, he had to have some help through the crowd,
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but it was a big crowd in Milan.
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2:10:58 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction] speech
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and he ended up saying that the unvaccinated
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2:11:04 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction] humanity.
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Now, what did he know that he didn't want to tell people
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about, but interestingly, Kerry Mullis asked,
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he ended, he was asking everybody for the reference
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2:11:17 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]atement.
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The HIV virus is the probable cause of AIDS.
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He wanted to write something
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and to his amazement, he couldn't find any reference
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that he liked.
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So he ended up going to Montagnier years,
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2:11:37 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]e of years later, as I understood it,
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2:11:39 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]ly.
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2:11:42 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]e as usual.
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And they were surprised that Montagnier
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2:11:50 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]e of things and Kerry Mullis
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2:11:53 --> 2:11:[privacy contact redaction]udies he was referring to,
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said, no, don't write that, don't write that.
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2:11:58 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction] from Kerry Mullis,
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not to his surprise, but also to the surprise
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2:12:04 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]e around Montagnier.
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So clearly Montagnier, maybe for the same reason
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as he didn't want to, gave the Nobel Prize back,
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I don't know whether that's true,
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but sounds like the kind of thing he might've done.
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And so I think he may be, and so the point is this,
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that bearing in mind what we know about Kerry Mullis
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and Montagnier, do you think it's possible
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2:12:27 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]or in America
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2:12:29 --> 2:12:[privacy contact redaction]ually there was no novel respiratory disease
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called COVID-19?
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Not only is it possible, I firmly believe
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that there was a twin.
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Absolutely, I think the same.
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So on that note, Charles, I think that's a great point.
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Great point to end.
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Okay, thank you everybody, thank you Kirk.
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Thank you everybody for your contributions,
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for your input, for your suggestions.
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Kirk, I'll share some stuff, links with you,
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2:13:01 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]e who sent you emails.
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Charles, one thing before we go,
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next Tuesday I've got a conflict.
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I'd like to bring Andrew Paquette on next Saturday.
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Sunday.
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Stephen, next Sunday, next Sunday.
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Oh, well the problem is that there's somebody,
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Leslie Manoukian speaking to us and I think-
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Leslie can't do it, she wants the night, Dr. Stephen.
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She would like the night.
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2:13:25 --> 2:13:28
Leslie Manoukian cannot do it next Sunday,
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but she can do it on Sunday the 9th.
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Good, okay, there you are.
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2:13:33 --> 2:13:34
Jerome can do Sunday.
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Stephen, how's that?
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I'll take Sunday.
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2:13:35 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]s.
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There we go.
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2:13:38 --> 2:13:42
Jerome, so I've got guests for the next four meetings,
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five meetings, including you, so you can have next Sunday.
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Yes, thank you.
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2:13:47 --> 2:13:[privacy contact redaction]s for Tuesday?
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I'll work on that tomorrow.
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2:13:52 --> 2:13:54
I'll talk to Carla Dean Graves,
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we'll work on that tomorrow.
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Thanks so much.
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Okay, thank you.
2429
2:13:58 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction]ephen, can Leslie have July 9th?
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2:14:01 --> 2:14:02
Leslie Manoukian?
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2:14:02 --> 2:14:[privacy contact redaction] write it down, July 9th, yep.
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Is that Sunday?
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2:14:08 --> 2:14:11
Leslie Manoukian, Leslie-
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2:14:11 --> 2:14:13
It's a Tuesday.
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Tuesday. It's a Tuesday.
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No, that's Michelle's.
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So what's the next time that Leslie Manoukian could do?
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Sorry, everybody.
